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Okay, I'm having regrets. This is a really deep black.

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It will like melt off the ceiling. No, it'll be fine. This paint is designed to block 5G waves.

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And while it might be marketed to folks who are trying to protect themselves

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from the dangers of the 5G,

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when we tried it over a year ago, we found that not only did the EMF

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blocking functionality work, it worked surprisingly well, which got us thinking,

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if this paint can keep outside signals from penetrating our box,

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could it also keep outside signals from penetrating an apartment,

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eliminating interference from pesky neighbors?

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Well, you may remember from our too much Wi-Fi video

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that having even its view as six people broadcasting on the same frequency around you

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can noticeably degrade your wireless internet.

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Is this the solution? There's only one way to test.

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Hey, who wants me to paint their house black?

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Okay, I probably should have seen that one coming. Wait, I know someone with a weak backbone

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who can't tell me no. Man, I'm stumped.

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Our sponsor ASUS sent over their new Wi-Fi 7 routers

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for us to run before and after we treat his apartment.

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Hey there, Elijah. I'm here to paint your walls black and tear down your bookshelves.

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No, please don't. All the intro.

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Let's begin with a quick recap of how this paint even works.

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RF-IE50 has a very high concentration of graphite,

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which after applying and drying, helps to block almost all of the RF frequencies

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that you would find in a typical home. Warmore, the brand of paint that we're using today,

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graciously sent us all of the paint, which is good,

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because otherwise it would have cost us about $3,000

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to treat this apartment, and that's without the strapping lads we'll be applying.

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Now, Warmore has products on their site that are obviously pseudoscience snake oil nonsense,

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but this isn't one of them. It actually blocks RF,

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which means that you really shouldn't use it to paint a wall that sits between your router

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and where you'll want to use your devices. Say, for example, this one.

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They also say that you need to ground your walls in order for them to be up to code.

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More on that later. Before we go any further, I want to make a couple of things really clear.

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One is that while we're using products from Warmore, we do not agree with any of the claims that they make

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about the health benefits of blocking exposure to Wi-Fi and 5G cell towers.

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Our goal is simply to reduce the signal strength of Elijah's neighbor's Wi-Fi

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to try to improve the Wi-Fi performance within his apartment.

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Number two is that we know that by not treating the Windows and the floor,

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we are not going to be creating a Faraday cage-like environment here,

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and there's going to be a lot of leakage. We just want to see if it helps at all.

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For science! Before we can do any of that, Elijah needs to choose one of the two routers

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that ASUS sent over. The RT-BE88U, which looks more like your typical router,

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but has a whopping eight LAN ports, with four of them being two and a half gig

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for fast connections between your wired devices, not to mention an SFP plus port for 10 gig.

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It's kind of overkill. Yeah. Speaking of overkill,

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the other option is the ROG Raptor GT-BE98 Pro.

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It has few reports, but it does have dual 10 gig connections,

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not to mention this delightful box.

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Realistically, we know which one you're choosing, so you can put that one down.

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But both of them feature blazing fast Wi-Fi seven speeds

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and multi-link operation or MLO,

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which allows multiple bands to be used at the same time for some truly shocking speeds.

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This thing is the most extra Wi-Fi router

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that I've ever seen. Holy cow. Oh, and it has four, two and a half gig ports too,

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on top of the 10 giggers. Nice. How much is this thing worth?

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Would you like to know? No, it's probably better not to. Okay.

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Dude, this thing looks like a Wraith King crown on your freaking shelf.

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And you gotta know ASUS knows they're doing it at this point.

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Routers don't have to look like that. Anyway, once this fires up,

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we're gonna use this RF Explorer Pro to get some before measurements

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so that we have a baseline to compare against. This thing is really cool, but I haven't used it yet.

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So it's gonna be a bit of an adventure. Alex gave me about a 30 second crash course on it,

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so I'm basically an expert, but we'll be able to see all the DB levels

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from wherever we measure, as well as all the channels and even the spectrum waterfall view

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so we can see activity on the network. Cool. It's not really the activity that we're most worried about.

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We're mostly worried about the sheer number of access points that are surrounding Elijah's space.

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And this will be able to tell us that as well. Polluting his blood with their RF.

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Yeah. Nambrisky 5G. I just want my 5G.

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Dude, this is wild. I was like, no way there's this many devices

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broadcasting near you. And then I was like, yo.

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Yep. If everyone's using their ISP router, they're probably by default broadcasting 2.4 and 5 gig

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just at full power already. This thing's got a ton of cool modes.

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There's this power meter where you can just see the exact power that's being broadcast

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on a particular frequency. There's the spectrum analyzer mode with a waterfall view

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so you can see activity over time. This is super cool, by the way.

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I set the range a little bit wider than 2.4 gigahertz Wi-Fi.

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You can see it right there. Oh, that's kind of cool. Yeah.

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And you can even set it up with this trippy 3D view of all the activity that's around us.

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But the one I'm most interested in for our purposes is Wi-Fi analyzer.

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This shows us how much Wi-Fi pollution is around us,

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potentially gunking up your signal, making your router wait its turn.

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So rather than do our before test the way that I had proposed before,

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what I wanna do is turn off your router,

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measure a baseline, then we paint everything

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and we measure the baseline again. Then we can do a quick speed test or something like that

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and make sure you're getting good performance. Nice.

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I just wanna see if the paint works. Okay. Okay, so let's find a few key points.

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I'm thinking in bed, on the couch and the kitchen.

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Sure. Oh, you don't wanna get in bed with me. Well, not yet.

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I was gonna propose in the bathroom because that's gonna be a really tight space

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surrounded by a neighbor right away and we can paint the roof and the wall there.

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And also because of the importance of, you know.

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The bathroom.

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Yeah, I don't wanna know what you're doing there on your Wi-Fi.

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Stop. And we're done.

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With that out of the way, we can get to painting.

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Nice. Over there. I mean, I know you weren't playing dance games.

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What's that supposed to mean? Nothing. What the heck is that supposed to mean?

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Nothing. That you obviously haven't been playing dance games.

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Had you considered maybe like doing a good job of this?

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What? The patches and the wall. Those were there before I got the place.

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Do you have sandpaper at least? Like can we? No, it'll be fine. Cause we're gonna put the TV back anyways.

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It'll just cover it in the end. I'm not worried about it. We're painting.

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And? And it's costing thousands of dollars.

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Correct. So you take four seconds and sand it with sandpaper.

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I don't have sandpaper. Timber!

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Please, please kill me so I get the workers cop.

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Are you the Star Wars kid? Yes.

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See, the graphite in the paint can pick up and hold onto a charge for low frequency electrical fields

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like from the wires in your walls. So by grounding it, we give that buildup somewhere to go.

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So if we didn't ground it, does that mean my would have electric walls

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to like electrocute people? Why would you want to do that? I don't know.

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Someone like breaks in, just like, shh. Wow, good timing for that siren.

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Okay, as cool as that would be though, no, it would not turn your house

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into a home alone style trap. The issue is that if it's left ungrounded,

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it can pick up some of the frequencies that we're trying to block.

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And because radio waves and electricity can make electrons wiggle,

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that wiggling can actually emit radio waves making the walls almost like a low powered antenna.

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So that would defeat the whole purpose of applying this paint.

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All right. This is GSX-50 tape,

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and this is a GW grounding plate, also made by Warmore.

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Judging by the pictures on their site, it seems like one strip running the length of the wall

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is enough to keep it grounded. So I guess let's do it.

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You're grounded. You know, there's speaker wire

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that you can run like this too, hey? Oh yeah. For like surrounds, so then you paint over it,

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it's super cool. It's called a ghost wire or something. Yeah, I wanna do a video on it at some point.

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I have not looked at the instructions for any of this. Do you have any idea what we're doing?

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Yeah, so we also need to have one piece of tape that goes vertical. What?

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And then it looks like this actually goes over top of the tape. So the only thing that seems to matter

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is that every surface that's painted

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is connected to the tape in some way. So you can go up the wall if you need to hit the ceiling.

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I see, so we could just run it all along the baseboards, it seems.

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Yes. Okay, then let's do it that way. Bro couldn't figure out how to open sandpaper.

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Sorry, my bad. And keeps calling it sanding paper. How do you do it?

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Because it's bothering you. No, that's not why you do it. You do it because you don't know what it's called.

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And then you continue doing it because it's bothering you.

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Ah! That's what smooth is.

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Oh. Nice, right? It looks about the same. No, it doesn't.

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I really hope that doesn't bust open. Please pour the paint. Pour the paint, Elijah.

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Pour the paint. Pour the paint.

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Oh, God. I mean, look, it's not like we can make this carpet any worse.

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Man, they really don't want kids to get into this.

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Or Elijah. Oh my gosh! I'm like cutting up my hand.

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That was a nice sound. That was a nice sound.

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Okay, I'm having regrets now.

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Oh, no, I touched it already. Nice.

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Well, I can just like... No. Oh my God.

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I mean, it's paint, you know. Yeah, but we're home, we're so cooked. It's supposed to turn things the color it is.

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I was really tempted to like it. I can't believe you're painting this entire place black.

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Thanks, ASUS. Well, full credit to them for coverage here.

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This is actually comical. Dude, this is a really deep black.

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Like this is black paint. Like it's nice and thick, but it spreads.

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The coverage is really good. Like this is some really nice paint.

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I like it. What are you doing? I'm painting! Do you see what I'm doing?

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Does it look like what you're doing? Okay, I'll stop.

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Okay, no, hold on. No, no, you can paint, but just jeez.

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What's so bad about it? You saw what he was doing, right?

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Glenn, do you paint? I don't. Okay, but can you tell that was wrong?

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Why was it wrong? First of all, you hold it like a pencil.

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Okay, not like a, whatever that was.

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Okay, yeah, not like a spoon. I mean, don't hold a spoon like that either.

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What are you, a bohemian? Okay, the point is you hold it like a pencil,

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you come down on it, so you have more control. You don't hold it up here.

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No control, lots of control, okay?

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And then you use the angle of the brush, okay?

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So the bulk of the paint goes on here,

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and that's your fine line. So you drag it across the very, very, very bottom,

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like that. Okay. And then you're doing a straight line like that.

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What? What, why are you judging me? Dude, you're lucky this wall is gonna be behind your TV,

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and we're hiring professionals for the rest of it, because that is the most ass paint job

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that I have ever seen. Like, it's bad and you should feel bad.

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Elijah, I actually do need a taller stool.

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I can't really reach the ceiling. What?

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I can't cut in. Wait, you don't have to cut in, because we're painting the ceiling as well.

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Oh, God, I forgot that. Yeah.

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Oh, that's horrible. Yeah. This is gonna be so oppressive.

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Oh, okay, well the other wall isn't gonna be...

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What, this one's gonna be black. No, that's not an exterior wall.

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Oh. Elijah, did you check if this...

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What? This ceiling has not been painted before. Correct.

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So, no, we can't get this on the ceiling. Yeah, we can.

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No, we can't, this is a latex-based paint. It's a water-based paint.

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Right, that's what I just said. This is a latex water-based paint.

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Yeah. This is water-soluble.

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Hmm. It will like melt off the ceiling.

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Did the painters, like that's what it mentioned that? Well, they said they might have to treat it.

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It's okay, they'll treat it after. What, no, they can't.

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Stop it. It will melt off the ceiling if we paint it with this.

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That's kind of cool. Okay, sorry, let's...

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Okay, well then be careful. Okay, so can I have a chair then?

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We've come full circle. I don't think that's stable, bro.

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Only one way to find out. You may want to move that paint.

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I worry less about me and more about the bucket of paint that's going to spill on your floor if I fall.

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Linus at a normal height.

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Look at me, look at me, look at me. I think we're basically done for today though.

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That took too long. Is this where we have the professionals come in and actually paint your place?

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Yes, they're going to do two coats. They're going to come back over and try to get it back to this white after.

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This is a paint primer product. Yes. And here they are.

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Man, this apartment is so dark now.

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The funny part is Taylor and I actually kind of like the way the walls look.

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We might just have to go over with like a regular a-shell black because as you can see,

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if I rub my hands a little bit on it, there's the tiniest bit of sparkle on my fingers

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from the actual graphite that's in the wall, almost if like a pencil was shaded.

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So if we bump or move anything against it, we're going to want to make sure we protect it

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with a proper egg shell coat. One thing we don't like though is the ceiling.

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I'm not really sure if there was a miscommunication or what happened, but they did not apply any sort of primer

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or protective coating to the ceiling before spraying the RF paint on it.

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So my ceiling is falling apart now,

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which sucks and we are working on a resolution with this, but it actually hasn't stopped the paint

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from clearly working. When I was at the office, I texted my wife

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to send some photos to me because I wanted to see what it looked like once it was blacked out,

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only for her to respond to me on Facebook Messenger because she was saying her messages,

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the photos weren't actually sending over text.

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They were failing. That's because she was still trying to use a cellular connection to send those photos.

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Some things still work such as texting and phone calls,

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but anything that was a large file, loading a YouTube video, sending a photo

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or trying to FaceTime over that cellular connection,

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it was not a good experience. Thankfully though, the ASUS router has been picking up

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the slack whenever we've needed to send like a large video file or a group of photos

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or even FaceTime family. So at least I got that going.

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Just because the router's fine though, doesn't mean I don't need to fix the issue

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with cell reception. So I actually reached out to our friends over at Waveform

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and they sent me the CellFi Go G41 smart signal booster.

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These are actually the same guys who helped at Linus's house when he needed to get better cell service.

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It's just a little antenna mounted on my balcony towards a cell tower somewhere,

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which thankfully Marcus actually sent me over a map of the area, so I know which direction to point this antenna in.

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Then I get to do my favorite thing, drill a hole through the wall, run a cable through to their signal booster,

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which is the indoor antenna that'll sit inside mounted.

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That way my wife can, you know, send more cat photos over text.

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We're actually not gonna set that up right now and in fact, I need to make sure my router

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is not broadcasting anything because if you remember in our before tests,

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we just were analyzing our neighbor's Wi-Fi to see if it was interfering with ours.

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So we're gonna set up our analyzer in the exact same spots. We're gonna take our measurements again

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and then we'll go back to the office and give Linus the results. Okay, how'd it go?

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Why don't we start with the ceiling? It's falling apart. Do you wanna see the pictures?

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I already know what it's gonna look like. Remember, I professionally painted for a couple of years.

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It's worse than you can imagine. I can imagine a lot.

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If you paint a stipple ceiling with water-based paint,

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it disintegrates, which I warned Elijah about. So really this is on him.

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To be fair, the contractor said, well, probably need to spray this with something or prime it.

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I was like, okay, we're now in talks about getting it scraped because...

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Yeah, you have to. Yeah.

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This is not my fault. No, it's not. I brushed it a little bit and was like,

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oh shoot, this isn't coated. And I told him, roll the footage.

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This is what... And it cut the footage. No, no, roll the footage.

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This is not on me. This is water-soluble.

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It will melt off the ceiling. Yeah, it's the entire apartment.

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That's a disaster, dude. It's pretty bad. That's stipple ceiling for you.

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It was the worst home decor trend of all time.

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They were asking me, they're like, well, do you wanna re-scraper it or do you wanna re-texture it again?

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I was like, well, let's just scrape it now. Oh, re-texturing it.

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They'd have to scrape it to re-texture it anyway. That's why I was like, let's just scrape it.

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Yeah, and then they would have to put an oil-based coating on.

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Then they would have to put the RF blocking stuff on again. Then they'd have to paint it again.

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It'd be like a six-step process. Yeah, we're just getting it scraped.

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Cool. But I want you to guess though, did it have any effect?

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And if you think it had an effect, what kind of percentage do you think we saw?

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Well, you already spoiled that with the coating on the walls, Taylor couldn't send M&S messages anymore,

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right? Yeah, photos. That's crazy. She could still text, she could still take phone calls,

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but actual large chunks of data could not go through. Interesting.

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Yes. As for the Wi-Fi access points around you,

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I'm gonna guess 15 dB.

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Okay, I have it in percentage, not dB. It's not quite that much though.

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Okay, well just. If you scroll down though, that's where it's on the script. I need to read it.

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Oh, I see. There you go. What?

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So sadly on the five gigahertz spectrum, we actually saw no improvement,

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maybe one to 2%. Oh, that would be within margin of error anyway.

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That's kind of what I thought. But on the 2.4 spectrum,

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we saw a 20% improvement in the bathroom, and a 27% improvement in the living room,

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and then the kitchen was somewhere in between that. That's actually not bad.

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Yeah. And is that just in the attenuation of the nearby signals?

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Yep. Well, that's awesome because 2.4 gigahertz

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is the problematic one. 100%. That's the one that you're stuck using

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for your IOT devices and stuff like that, and they'll just, they'll be flaky.

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And you won't realize while they're flaky. They're flaky because all your neighbors

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have all of their crap broadcasting on it. I mean, I, I wouldn't spend this kind of money on it.

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It wasn't groundbreaking, but again, like you said, it was the walls and ceiling.

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The price was right. Yeah, for free, for me.

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Right, so. But I think this is actually an example

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if we had gone all the way and on the floor, I have more neighbors below me.

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You're already here first. Elijah wanted to go all the way.

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Below me. If we had painted the actual floor,

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we could have probably seen even more of an improvement. Right, cause there's a lot of people below you.

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Yeah. And another thing we noticed with both measuring the 2.4

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and the five gigahertz spectrum is they appeared more stable.

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There wasn't crazy, you know, cliffs and valleys on each of the channels.

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Interesting. I had one other note, which was, I guarantee there was more people home that day.

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I don't know. Really? Because we filmed the after results on boxing day

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and we filmed our before results on a typical work day.

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And judging by my parking lot, there was definitely more people home.

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Oh, well that's cool. So what that means is that, A,

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we definitely got a good result. And B, our good result is probably more betterer.

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Yeah. Than what we thought. Yeah, exactly. So I wouldn't recommend spending this kind of money

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for this outcome. But at the price you paid,

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I mean, it seems like a pretty clear upgrade. Yeah, it was sick. And okay, as for the ASUS router.

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The ASUS router was fine. And I think that would probably be a better investment

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is like actually upgrading your network inside, whether it's a mesh system or wiring everything.

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Well, realistically, the bigger one is probably gonna be getting a router and devices

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that support six gigahertz. Yeah. Especially if you're in an apartment

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where the range is not gonna be as important

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as using a frequency that no one else is using. And for the kind of money you would spend

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on a home renovation like this, you could literally buy yourself a new router,

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buy your, you and your whole family new phones that all support six gigahertz.

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I didn't even think about that. Right? But you could, yeah.

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But that wasn't the point of our exercise here. No, yeah.

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The point of our exercise was, hey, does this stuff that worked on a small scale,

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painting a box, actually scale up to an entire home?

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And the answer is less effectively.

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But it's clearly not entirely snake oil.

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Yeah, which is actually kind of cool. Yeah, very cool.

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Yeah. If you guys enjoyed this video, be sure to tell a friend about it.

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It was a big undertaking getting contractors out

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to paint Elijah's house. Contractors who did a great job.
