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You've probably seen the metric boatload of videos that we make every year at CES,

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but the thing is, in spite of being called, and I quote,

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the most powerful tech event in the world, the show runs out of Las Vegas,

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where the hotels don't exactly have the fastest internet.

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So instead of sending our footage back home to the studio to be edited,

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we have to bring our editors to the footage. And there's a lot of footage, so much so that a couple of years ago, we built this.

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And you might think, wow, Linus, that looks like a crappy old business machine.

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And you're right. But I promise it's got a heart of gold and a heart of Kyokuse CM6 NVMe storage,

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specifically 60 terabytes of it that allows our editors to work on location

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with the same speed and efficiency as they would with the crazy servers we have here in our studio,

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all without even having to think about running out of space.

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It's small enough to fit in a... Yes, thank you for that, Jake.

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Carry on. And it has enough networking to support more editing machines than we could ever need at the show.

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But it has a major flaw. It's, at least with the case, way too heavy.

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I actually almost missed my flight last year because of this thing.

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It just so happened that the airline check-in manager was a fan and was like, okay, he can go.

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We don't want that to happen again. So it's time for a portable NAS V2, smaller, lighter,

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but just as capable. And we're going to be using...

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Oh, oh yeah, you have the box. Do you want the box or the actual thing?

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Sorry. Meet the Mini's Forum MSO1 Mini PC.

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This thing's got to be what? A quarter of the volume of what we built before?

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And if the spec page is to be believed, we'll be making basically no compromises to performance.

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Perhaps the best part is you could just buy one of these online,

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no weird modifications required. Check this out.

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I can even fit our sponsor in there.

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We promised basically no compromises compared to our older NAS machine.

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So why don't we start with networking? Any storage system that we use is going to have to be at least 10 gig Ethernet.

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Good for around one Gigabyte per second of throughput

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to the MacBooks that our editors bring to see. Yes. But this has not one, but two onboard Intel-powered 10 gig SFP plus ports.

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Not unlike the system that it's replacing. But on top of that, it also has dual two and a half gig

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and dual 40 gig USB four ports, which could easily run 10 or even 25 gig Thunderbolt adapters.

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Now we wouldn't want to bring a 25 gig switch with us to CES, right?

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Are you not? Are you? No, I'm not. What? Well, I don't know.

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I'm not going to. Can never tell with you. Where am I going to put that? I'm going to bring that on the airplane.

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I'm going to end up on a watch list. The point is the onboard 10 gig is already lots for what we're doing,

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but it's cool that we could go faster if we wanted to. Speaking of faster, is that a freaking PCIe by 16X slot on a computer this small?

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It's a half height slot. So there are some limitations.

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I call them line of slots. That's a great name for them.

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Unfortunately, while it is a 16X slot, only eight of the lanes are hooked up.

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But that's still a ton of bandwidth to play with if you wanted to add something like a couple additional SSDs

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or in our case, an NVIDIA Quadro P1000.

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A half height. Oh my God. It's so cute.

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Single slot workstation GPU. Now, this might be a bit of an older card,

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but realistically, it's powerful enough for our purposes.

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Actually, why do we need your workstation card? We're going to get into that.

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And let's read the bloody script, brother. Ah, which we'll talk about in a minute.

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But the system officially supports up to NVIDIA's current gen RTX 2000 E

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ADA with a whopping 16 gigs of VRAM. Or if you're feeling crafty,

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you can install this sick custom single slot cooler from Nerdware

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onto an RTX 4000 ADA SFF like Kraft Computing showed off recently.

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We're going to have all that linked in the description if you wanted to do something like this for yourself.

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As for why we need a GPU in a NAS, I mean, we're not running a Plex server on it, are we?

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Well, I don't think I told you, but I actually did find a place in Vegas with good internet.

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HyperX Arena Esports Venue. And they offered to let us keep this machine there,

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which is great. It's just that they're not open 24 seven

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like everything else in Las Vegas. So we need to like export a video at two in the morning,

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which I'm going to try not to, but it happens.

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This way we can run a VM on this machine, remote in and render a video from wherever.

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That is awesome. And it will still have good internet. But why not go with something newer?

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I think I know the answer. And workstation cards are expensive. And that was on the shelf.

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And because I had a better idea. Huzzah! The new Mac Mini M4.

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It's so small. And this is so small that I can bring both.

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And to be honest, this Mac Mini will absolutely crush this system,

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even with the best GPU we could possibly put in there. This thing is actually kind of incredible,

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especially for the price. And for Adobe apps, macOS is better anyways.

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So that's why we use MacBooks for our editors.

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Normally here, we're a PC house, but Premiere is just so much more stable on the MacBooks.

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And we don't have time to screw around with that stuff when we're at a show. Of course, anything would shred the performance

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of our MSO one in his current state. While you can buy it, and I read you to go out of the box system,

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we got ours as a bare bones. So it still doesn't have any memory or storage.

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Oh, cool. DDR5 Sodems. Let's go.

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Every once in a while, I'm like, oh yeah, Bushkin still exists.

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They actually have some really cool stuff. It doesn't have labels on it,

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so you wouldn't know what it is. Oh, but it's on here. Oh, no, are you kidding me?

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Yeah, those are dual 48 gig DDR5 5600 mega transfer Sodem.

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Wow. So we are technically downgrading our capacity,

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128 to 96, but it's close,

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and we're going from 3200 to 5600.

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It's not going to be a problem. Now I just have to figure out

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how to get it into the system. Phillips zero, perhaps.

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Yes, sir, yes, sir. Ah, ooh, that's cute.

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You can take the fan off without actually removing the heat sink to get the Sodem slots.

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Oh, and that gives them lots of airflow too. I love it. Yeah, but you're going to remove the heat sink anyways.

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Oh. I heard through the Gravevine that the thermal paste they use on these,

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not the greatest. A lot of the Mini's Forums boxes use liquid metal,

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but this one does not. Okay, screws are out, but no, there's two more.

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They're under the foam. If you feel it right there. I got to take the foam off?

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There, I'll just poke through. Oh, that's horrible, Jake.

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That's the other one. Ew. It's not the worst thing ever.

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I'd actually rather you do it like that than rip the foam off

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because it probably won't stick back on. Remember when CPUs were square?

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I do. I mean, look at this thing. It's a laptop chip.

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It's a tall boy. It's a laptop chip. Or a short wide boy.

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I assume this is Intel then because AMD doesn't look like that.

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Yeah, they actually sell a few different versions of the MSO1,

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but we went for the top dog. Core i9-13900H.

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Given the form factor, like I said, it is a laptop chip, but it is no slouch.

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14 cores, six of which are high-clocking performance cores

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reaching peak speeds of up to 5.4 GHz

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with the rest being low-power efficiency cores. But this chip is ready

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for a max turbo power of 115 watts.

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How is that a mobile chip? Well, it's a... I mean, I guess that's why their CEO's gone.

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Yeah. I was just primed to say,

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yeah, I wasn't expecting you to say that. Jesus.

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That's nice. He's prepared to agree with me even when he hasn't heard what I said.

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I mean, usually not, but I just... I mean, with the size of this cooler

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or the size of the cooler in any laptop, it's not going to be able to do that kind of wattage sustained.

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No, in fact, Minisform actually limits it to 80 watts in the bias,

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but they do allow you to change it. And since I heard that the thermal paste is kind of crappy,

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PTM7950 from LTPstore.com. Okay. And maybe we can turn the wattage up then?

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Yeah. This stuff's actually perfect for this application. Funnily enough, the reason we started carrying it

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was because of the crazy improvements people were seeing after upgrading laptop chips with it.

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Because on a normal desktop CPU, which has a metal heat spreader,

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the thermal paste might only see like 70, 80 degrees.

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But on a laptop chip, it's a bare die. And you might actually see temperatures of 100, 110 degrees,

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which normal thermal paste is not made for. This stuff, it handles it.

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We'll throw some screenshots on the screen, maybe a before and after to see what the temps are like.

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Oh, did you get before temps? Yeah, oh yeah. Oh, nice. I'm sure it's quite a bit better.

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Here's the application process, by the way. You just cut yourself a little piece, peel the one side.

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Hope that you cut the right size piece, and then peel back the top.

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That's a lot. What's trippy is it goes on like a thermal pad,

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especially if you put it in the fridge or freezer before you work with it. So you can see it's a solid right now.

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But once it heats up, it changes to a liquid so that it fills in all the grooves,

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just like a more traditional paste would. Oh, I forgot to clean that.

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Yep. I believed in you though. I thought too much of you. You put so much, oh my god.

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That's fine. You can't put too much paste on something. We proved it recently that you cannot.

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You definitely can. You can put it even in between the pins and the CPU.

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Really? And it still worked? Oh yeah. Oh my god, you're not. What?

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That's the GPU mounting solution? Look, okay. Justin has not had time to make a bracket for this GPU

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because it's missing the half height bracket. And he's going to today before we go to CES tomorrow.

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I'm sure it'll definitely happen. Now, since we're talking about using this as a NAS,

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we should definitely talk about storage, which is another one of this system's strong suits.

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It has not one, not two, but three M.2 storage slots,

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which is kind of crazy. Now in the old system, we used two of Kyoksia's 30 terabyte CM6 SSDs

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because we had them on the shelf and it's nice to not have

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to worry about capacity. And while we could still use a 2.5 inch SSD

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with this handy M.2 to 2.5 inch adapter,

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they actually include with the MSO1. Now that we have experience running a NAS at a show,

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we know that even three or four terabytes is lots.

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So instead of me having to worry about lugging around a $20,000 in Kyoksia SSDs on a plane,

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we're going to install a pair of the Sabrant Rocket 4 Plus

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8 terabyte drives. They're still stupid fast with a ton of capacity,

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but at about a tenth of the price of the Kyoksia drives. Then for boot storage, a normie 512 gig Gen 3 Sabrant Rocket.

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And I think with that, we're all ready to power this thing on. This looks great.

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The entire package with networking plus the Mac,

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plus its external network card, is smaller than our previous machine.

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Where is that thing? Look at this. That's freaking awesome.

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Yeah, I could honestly probably just like stuff that in an LTT Store backpack.

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I think it's lighter than the previous setup too. The whole thing.

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8.26 pounds, 10.68. Not to mention we didn't have a Mac mini before,

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and that switch would have been with this computer too. Yeah, this is awesome.

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Yeah. Does it work? Oh yeah. As with most of our storage builds,

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this system's running true NAS scale. It's a staple in the network attached storage community,

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and it makes use of ZFSA. Combo file system slash volume manager,

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we have been using for years. I already went ahead and put our two 8TB drives,

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whenever it loads, into a mirror. Is that enough storage space for the entire trade show?

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We already addressed that. I was working. I had a meeting.

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The point is that a mirror will create a redundant copy of any footage or projects that we copy to it.

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So in the event of a drive failure, which probably won't happen,

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we will still have a fully functioning NAS. Are you going to talk about your Windows 11

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version machine with Premiere? Why do we even need that if we're going to be using the Mac to export?

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Because this is our plan C. If for whatever reason the Mac, not responsive,

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we can't get into the building, right? Sure. We're just out of luck. Well, we put the GPU in there.

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We might as well have the VM ready to go. So we started up. That's also part of why it wasn't worth going

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to buy a fancy new one, right? Right, because we probably won't use it.

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This is our plan C. And so you've just got it passed through to the VM?

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Yep. Cool. And I don't even need to leave the VM running.

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Like we can just, if we need to, turn it on. Are we using like a Pi KVM or something like that

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for the machine itself? It's funny you should ask.

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Another super tiny thing, the Nano KVM. They finally open sourced the firmware on this thing.

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And this is the more expensive one with the screen and stuff. But the base model version of this is like 30 US dollars.

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Basically what this does is it takes any computer,

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desktop, laptop, you know, little mini PC like this.

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Mac mini. And it turns it into almost like a server

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with a remote management interface. So you plug this into your network

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you plug this into your USB port and your HDMI port

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and remote access over the network to any machine.

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Like a digital keyboard and mouse. So cool.

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And actually this one is pretty cool too because it has those pins.

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If you have this in like a desktop computer and I guess in theory you could do it with this

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you can run little wires to like your power on switch.

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So if the system is the bed you can hard restart it.

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That is so awesome. Are we going to wire it up? No, I don't think that's going to be a problem.

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The system also does technically have Intel's, I think it's called the Vepro management thing.

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So you can wake on land but like extra super special wake on land. I think it'll be okay.

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Okay. I like this one a lot too because unlike the Pi KVM

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it doesn't require additional power.

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Oh nice it can just be powered off the system. Unless the machine doesn't output enough

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but as far as I know it does. Is it off? I wouldn't know because you know.

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Is it? You gotta press the power button on the bottom. Smart design.

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Let's look at plan B. Eh? Yep. That's a fast processor.

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God damn Format Mini is sick. Yeah I mean like if you tried to build a computer

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with the same amount of money I'm sure you could build one that was like technically faster for editing.

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Oh right and it costs twice as much once you increase the RAM and storage one step.

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Yeah but all we would realistically use it for is

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taking a final video making a couple little edits and exporting.

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And sure that might take 45 minutes instead of 30 minutes

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but at least we can do it at all. I see how we're going to edit remotely if we need to

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but how are you planning to ingest footage to the NAS? It's actually pretty similar to how it's set up right now

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just instead of a Mac mini MacBook Pro. They already have an SD card slot right there.

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All we have to do is take sorry if that's still open in Premiere.

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Wow. Take our 10 gig dongle. I mean we're all going to bring one so it's fine.

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We don't have to share. Plug it in. Copy over your footage.

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The place that I told you that has the internet they're just going to let us have some editors hang out there.

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No way. Yeah it's like an eSports venue. Oh yeah.

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The thing that drives me crazy is none of that used to be necessary. The Aria and the Vidara used to have great internet

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and then as far as I can tell because of just like

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the ownership group for pretty much all the hotels on the Strip

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being either like one or two and then all basically colluding

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to make sure that none of them are too much better than the others

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meant that the fast internet went away. Yeah they all as far as I can tell have the same internet service provider

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and it's all like 10 megabit. And they used to have hardwired jacks in the rooms

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and they just pulled them out. It would have cost them literally nothing to just leave them there

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but they couldn't do that. Everything's Wi-Fi so everything is dog s***.

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Yeah I'm not recommending this but sometimes they have

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you know the AP is just plugged in you can just unplug it. Plug it into your laptop.

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I didn't tell you to do that. I did the same thing in Japan. Sometimes it works.

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Of course not all of our editing is going to be done down in Vegas. What about what we have to send back to the office here?

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Right we have faster internet than we usually do but not like 10 gig like we have at the office.

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So we're not going to be sending the raw footage. Instead we're going to start using proxies.

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So the editors back home with our fast but not crazy fast internet

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can get proxy footage and then they send the project file back

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and then since we have the raw footage here you take your Mac mini or your laptop and you conform the raw footage

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which is basically like replacing the proxy with it and render the video.

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Cool and I think all that's left is to show how all of it fits into our commuter

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backpack lttstore.com. Here we go.

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I'm going to put that power cable there. I'm going to put that computer right there.

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I'm going to put this other power brick which I don't even know what it's for right here.

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Oh no wait that's for the computer. It should fit right? Well you still left your tech sack in there.

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Yeah I know. Well I need my tech sack. How am I going to take stuff apart at the show if I don't bring my tech sack?

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You're bringing this over there.

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I don't know man this is looking spicy. No no no let's go and get this.

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Well this can just sit right there. Yeah easy. And then this. No they're good they're good dude.

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I'll put the cable up there. Okay easy peasy squeezed lemons.

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Oh my god. And Macmanie's going to have a giant scratch on the top of it.

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No no it's going to be fine. It's on the bottom where no one will ever see it except when they turn it on and off.

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Which nobody does apparently. Oh god.

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It should be what did you say 9.6 pounds heavier?

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It's pretty heavy now I got a lot of screwdrivers in there too. You can't bring those on the point.

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There it is. Commuter backpack no Pelican case required.

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Oh this says weigh it. Here we go.

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With a water bottle? Not bad. How full is it? Full.

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24 pounds. That's pretty awful. And here's a 24 pound segway to our sponsor.

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Do you guys like this video? Why not check out the last time we built a portable NAS.

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Yes. It was sick and a lot more custom but this is so much more useful.

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I mean we kept it put together this whole time. Like we actually did use it multiple times.

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Yeah we used it for Computex as well. I think right? No we used it at we used it at the something.

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Some other show. The land party I think I used it as a cash.

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Oh my god.
