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Yep, the whitest of names. Oh the tension on this. Yeah, and I'm white
I'm gonna turn to the left then okay
Cool, so we got that. Oh right at the dashboard
Unless oh Don't work. Okay
Infra, what's it? What's the dashboard thing again?
Yeah, I got it. Okay good audio wasn't on
And then I forget am I supposed to use my Microsoft credentials or my Google ones to log in
I think it's Microsoft Microsoft
No, I haven't Microsoft bimbos Microsoft bimbos I wanted on a shirt to be perfectly
Why it's a fire image it lives in my head room for me
I Oh
What even is that? It's Microsoft bimbos bro. What is that though? What is Microsoft bimbos?
Definitely not infringing I'll tell you that
Man it is so much work to switch phones these days like
Microsoft with their special Snowflake authenticator that you then you authenticate your phone then you type a number then you authenticate your phone again then you say
Yes, I want to stay signed in for the love of God just like all the other times
I told you I want to stay signed in no I don't want to sign into my entire bloody computer just this one app just like every other time
I told you just this one app
Sorry, we have a tech rants video coming up. I'm practicing for it
Just the one app I unplugged my computer with my rage
Very big power brick for that laptop. It's also a battery bank
Got it it lit on fire one of them lit on fire someone posted on reddit or something
I've been meaning to stop using it, but I haven't gotten around to it And I have a super short cable because I broke my other cable on that last live stream and I haven't gotten around to
Oh, oh, I could just steal a cable
That sounds like a terrible excuse and you're I feel like your insurance won't cover you now when your house burns down
I've been meaning to throw it out because I know it's a fire hazard. Yeah, sorry. I wasn't really listening
Crap we don't have a long enough cable. Yeah, yes insurance
Insurance is good. Okay. Why am I being prompted for a password now? I
Thought Dan I thought that's the whole point of
a
Now it won't even now it's not even prompting me any more
Well, it's stuff so complicated now
Or maybe there is there a password for it. Oh, okay, well
Okay, well did
Dude, I couldn't even figure out how to I couldn't even figure out how to sign into our security cameras the other day
Open a support ticket No, I did open a support ticket. It did not help
Because I have the one ubiquity app and it has like a bunch of them
Oh, and then I apparently have to go in this other ubiquity app and it like has the other ones
But also no, they're not there so Yeah, so so like protect app is gone. Is that is that a thing? I
Can never remember either. Okay. No, there's you there's unified protect which has your nvrs
Okay, doesn't have some of them. Did you switch the site? I don't know dude
I don't know they used to just all be in a list and it was easy. Yeah, but we have like five sites now
Yeah, so so but four of them are in a list and one of them isn't
I'm not allowed to say anything because they give us things for free. Ah
There's a reason I have a counter in front of my desk. I
Didn't hear what he said, but I don't want to know
That's the thing with that Dan guy All right
You want to do a quick run through the script or you get to go I run through the script
I don't know. It's up to you if you want to me. I am a professional then then just go rehearsals are for amateurs. You're right
Also, we've already run through it. Yeah, I know I was just double-checking
Your number locks on thank you I helped I wanted it on tech tip. Oh, sorry now. It's on. Thank you. I'll turn it off though
What a guy you see what I have to put up with around here see what I have to put up with around here
All right, so are we are we just waiting on me to 100% good sir. Oh my god, my hair is like
Choir boy today. It's better than the blonde. Can we add a little more? I mean, yeah, sure, but that's so wow
Was that ever a low bar? You should go pink hair. Sorry pink hair. I do pink hair. Sure. Why not? All right D brand
Get on that D brands not watching this they don't subscribe to flow plane. I
Mean they sell stickers for a living or the can't afford one. Yeah, like
Just tell me if you're a poor boy D brand or but what was what was poke main was a if you a broke boy
Just say so broke boy. That's right. Sorry. Absolutely base pokey broke boy
Here's where I would put my arc card if I had one no we even made we make that joke and not this video
I think there's another video we make a yeah, I wasn't this one some someone put an if I had one in in something recently
It's not out yet. I don't think we shot it yet. Oh, that was the RTX
Scrum you did with Adam. I think you were talking about Maybe yeah, oh, I bet it's too early to stream. I don't I don't know how people brains function before noon because mine doesn't
Just start shifting everyone's schedule to starting afternoon then
No People don't like it
Okay All right, I think we're I think we're ready to go cool. All right, let's do this thing
cool
All right I'm good to
I'm good. Okay Well, I do why haven't we started the rehearsal yet
Don't you dare? Just just I swear. All right. I will do a practice one
I'll do the last time I built a $500 gaming PC brand new parts was four years ago
And if I'm being honest it kind of sucked It wasn't my fault. What do you think good energy, you know, I think you could go a little less energy
I think you're gonna turn people off with this little less energy. Yeah, okay. I'll like channel my Tina Belcher
The last time I built a $500 gaming PC with brand new parts was
Four years ago, and if I'm being honest it kind of sucked
It wasn't my fault All right, I think I can do this you got this if you were a spice you'd be flour love it
That's from Bob's burgers, which he refuses to watch because I downloaded it or I bought it. Um, I
just Haven't watched it yet
Now now Elijah because of you. I'm gonna have a red mark on my head for the entire rest of this stream
It's gonna make it sound like I hit you I
Thought it was the other way. I think it is actually possible. I think it is actually possible to hit someone by just
Bewildering them so hard that they hit themselves. It's like a telekinesis. It's like a spell. It's like a magic spell
You should work on it. Yeah, I don't think I could ever be as good as you
All right, all right
This guy he's can't take him anywhere
That's why you that's why I'm locked here. Oh, but that's why you're what locked here locked here. Yeah, I've trapped it
That again Okay
All right Okay, okay the laws and we
Okay, here's what we're gonna do Andy We're gonna start on
This side so we see everything but the arc card
So you can go a little wider. Yeah, so I'm like this maybe maybe a little bit give me a little bit more of that power supply
Oh, yeah, beautiful, and then I'm gonna go
Not anymore Intel has changed the game with their word blah blah blah, so we'll go over there
Does that kind of make sense for the intro? Okay, and then you guys have all the stuff to like cut away to right and do I have cues in the script for when you're
Doing that or do I really need them? I'm gonna be just talking with Dan about when we're cutting away
There's only the two parts because there's no green man overlay for the sponsor or whatever
Nope, you're just gonna straight shoot it to the camera. Oh is oh, okay
The only thing we're cutting away for is when we talk about
The case and the GPU. Okay. Hold on. I need to
No, no, you're good you don't have to oh my god, what do you do in Andy? Are you making it awkward now?
You're making it awkward Okay, let's see timing last time I built a $500 gaming PC with brand new parts was four years ago
If I'm being honest kind of sucked wasn't my fault at that budget. I could only afford the lowest card in the aisle
Okay, so about seven
Okay, I Just read whatever's on the prompter
I
Don't actually know anything about computers
Okay, I'm gonna put this one away
All them wrinkles. Oh come on you guys
Be nice. You don't want to drive me to Botox. Do you?
Maybe attract a younger audience
Oh
Tennis elbow not good or as I call it badminton elbow
I just want this off the table, but I want it to be convenient to grab later. You know what? Oh, I forgot this is
Snap ARM 55% is a lot not a lot for the whole stream. What am I even doing?
All right, let's put this away. Actually, I'm gonna put this here and it can charge while we do this
Maybe will it fit?
Yeah, okay, it's charging perfect. So now I will have battery later in my battery bank
My battery savings account
Oh, yeah, he doesn't have the belt. Hey, it looks uh, is it just this monitor?
Or did we did we play around with the Lutz a little bit? It looks really really kind of sharp and contrasty today
Okay, that looks bad
So little dark Yeah, no, it looks good. Did you guys do anything different? I think we just have a good-looking host, you know, it works
Don't be a kiss ass. What the heck? I'm trying. What's your problem, buddy? Oh, man. I don't know Andy. It looks a little brown
A little brown, or is that just Elijah's nose? That's I got that before you did
All right, all right, let's do this thing. All right
Let's do this mess. Oh, right. Am I the one?
Activating the selected. Yes, please. Oh, man. Would you like me to take your laptop then?
I would actually love that. I'd love if you could take my laptop away once the selected is resumed
Okay, so basically I'm gonna press it and then oh
Yeah, oh man, that looks kind of natural. Hey, Andy, Andy
Here you can you can show them them behind the the magic. Yeah behind the scenes movie magic
See, I've got my laptop over there I'm gonna be like monitoring for when the stream actually goes live. It's gonna be cool. As soon as you start talking
I'm just gonna move it. You'll like it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah
Okay. All right, here we go resuming the selected now. Oh and
There we go and
Okay, sorry, let's start I
Don't know what it is when shows easy, but I get like I almost have like PTSD about starting other streams
Cuz like things go wrong with them so much
Name one hundred bad streams you've done you can't check mate
We got this All right, okay
Okay, all right, all right, all right
Okay
It's the boomer scared of the live stream kitties no
All right Okay, okay, I got this. Okay, I'm hitting it now boom
You
The last time I built a $500 gaming PC with brand new parts was four years ago and
If I'm being honest, it kind of sucked. It wasn't my fault
I mean at that budget I could only afford the lowest card in NVIDIA's GTX gaming lineup and
I paired it with the lowest chip in AMD's Ryzen 3000 series and even with those compromises
We ended up blowing the budget and we were stuck running at low to medium settings at 1080p
Well, not any more Intel has changed the low-budget gaming computer scene with the release of their
$250 arc B580 thanks to this GPU right here
Everything that you guys see on the table is brand new hardware and came to a total of
$540. Okay. Okay. Okay. We still broke the budget, but we broke it by less and
If you're willing to put your trust in some brands that we've never heard of you can get the same performance as us
brand new for $500
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Let's not waste any time and jump right into our CPU of choice. I mean at this kind of budget here
I'm using the term choice a little bit loosely here
Let's have a look at the CPU that AMD was willing to give us at a price that we can afford the Ryzen 5
5500 see here's the thing AMD doesn't really make new Ryzen 3 processors for the retail market anymore
We did find some relatively current ones, but they were only am only and not accessible if you're building your own PC
The good news is that by choosing an older Ryzen 5. We're still getting pretty good bang for our buck
We get six cores 12 threads boost clocks to 4.2 gigahertz and
AMD's somewhat Aging but still quite potent Zen 3 architecture. This cost us
$79 and Thankfully includes a cooler meaning that we don't have to spend budget on one later as for our motherboard
Well, I'm gonna be completely honest with you guys
I'll be finding out in real time if this was a good choice
We literally fired up PC part picker and sorted low to high the as rock a
520m hdv micro was still a whopping
$70 How is it that even cheap motherboards are so expensive these days and what are we even getting for features here?
Let's do an unboxing Andy old-school unboxing style. We get
two SATA cables
An I o shield
Whoo, that's not Halloween. Why am I doing spooky voice? Okay, we got a manual. Let's see
No words. Ah, we get an m.2 screw
Button battery safety notice and we get the board itself. I am expecting this thing to be I
Actually don't know what I'm expecting Am I expecting it to be basic because it's the cheapest motherboard on the market?
Or am I expecting it to be decent because I paid $80 for it?
No, $70 either way. Oh, you know what?
Actually compared to the budget boards of my younger years
I
Bump the table as I was walking around it. I managed to snipe my mute button
Check that out that right there my friends. That's that skill. All right
So we get actually what looks like probably either a three plus two or four plus one phase VRM design
Which makes sense that it would have somewhat decent VRMs on it
Given that it does have socket a m4 and technically is compatible with even some pretty high-draught chips
We don't have really any cooling for it, but
Hey, at least it's not one of those boards where it has the through holes for cooling
But then just doesn't come with a cooler because it's a cost-down one. So you look at it and you're like
Clearly the idea was to put cooling on here is that because it needed it or because it was
Aesthetic hard to say we only get two dim slots
But that is pretty normal for a lower-end board and honestly speaking on modern platforms most of the time
I probably wouldn't use all four dim slots anyway. We've got a couple of PCIe slots
That one is at least full x16 and we get m.2, which is nice to see four SATA ports front USB 3
But no type C couple USB 2s actually a pretty complete
overall package Oh
Whoa, I owe. Oh, wow. Wow. You get you get some modern stuff
Okay, you get a handful of USB 3 ports gigabit LAN
You know audio jacks, but no man You get some retro stuff on here to to go along with your HDMI. You get DVI
DV ID specifically you get VGA PS 2 for that classic keyboard you're rocking and a couple USB 2 ports
Frankly speaking Not bad Like there's nothing here from a gaming standpoint, but I'm looking at going
Yeah, I'm as long as it runs stably and doesn't have any serious problems with it
I think I'm actually okay with this now Elijah you did mention that there were some cheaper boards correct
We actually found some on new egg for as low as $43
$43, but they okay. There's got to be a reason we didn't choose them. Let's go ahead and let's fire up the old the old
fresh egg The old not aged, you know fertilized and hatched egg
It's new I got it. Yeah, I know. I'm just trying to be helpful. Okay components and storage come on come on over here, Andy
Let's find the cheapest The cheapest a m4 motherboard we can I want one that's in stock
I want one that's sold by new egg and I want one that is brand new
Discount current promotion you what the heck is useful links?
Combo up savings warranty. What is what does warranty mean? Oh?
Okay, okay, that's cool. You can select the warranty thing
Availability discount dang it. Where is ice? I swear
I found this before Started the stream and now I can't find it anymore. I want to not refurbished one
Sort by lowest price
Do you know how to find that wait no way
Elijah yes, sir the cheapest thing they have is 94 dollars now. What the heck is going on here?
Seller are you on Canadian or are you on no? I'm on calm. Oh
Oh That's That is actually not what I was expecting to happen here
It's kind of funny because remember the brands of those boards were brands
We didn't recognize and we kind of made a joke in script review that they might vanish in a week. Yeah, I
Guess those brands vanished within the week. No, there's no way. There's no way. We're gonna find it
We're gonna find it. Do you have a link to the boards?
Not from those cheap ones. No Show more. Okay. Oh my goodness. Look at some of these brands. There's hoeing gager
You see this Andy We got hoeing gager brand. We've got ecom hopper. I found a 50 we've got
NFH Zed P. Okay. Oh, hold on. I think it's this one. I think I got it
Yep, that's the same one dude. So it's actually gone up in price. It's gone up in price
the the
One aunty one aunty. Oh, I have Andy Andy
help me
Like no All right. Well, it's $56 now for one of these. Oh, dude, that would only save us like
15 bucks hamburgers, all right
Well, anyway We're gonna see if we can end up under 500 bucks either way. Let's go ahead and get our CPU installed here
In case we don't find the yeah, oh, it was $43 before
Okay, for those of you who have never seen how to install an AM4 CPU, this is gonna be a treat
So you lift up the ARM you do the thing. Oh, yeah, there you go. Got that triangle right there. Mmm. The wish is golden triangle
Would you eat golden triangles breakfast cereal? Oh, yeah, because I think I would I
Be super down for some golden triangles. I think that's a pretty I think that's a pretty promising
promising cereal name All right. Well, I get this cooler installed. Oh my god. Where did you find this cooler Elijah? It was in the stock file, Ben
It's so dirty. Is it I grabbed the one that was on top
The one you would get would be much cleaner Yeah
See the thing is a lot of our CPUs are either samples from AMD which don't come with coolers or they're just
They've been kicking around long enough that we've lost all the packaging and coolers and accessories and all that so
This is just a random AMD stock cooler. Yours would probably look a little different
Dan I think the script calls for me to do or the plan calls for me to do a merge message right about now
Yeah, sure. I've got a new message. Should I explain what they are? Oh, yes
Yeah, merge messages are the way to interact with our live streams. All you got to do is go on LTT Store calm
We've got a lot of great stuff that you can check out there right now
You can back order one of our precision screwdrivers and bit sets. You can pick up a regular screwdriver
We've got lots of great clothing and apparel t-shirts hoodies. Oh
Oh wait, no, I think the cargo pants are out of stock. Whatever the point is we've got lots of stuff and
Just add it to your cart and you'll see a little box to leave a merge message for the stream
It'll go to producer Dan who will forward it to me or throw it up on the on the stream
Or forward it to someone else internally who can answer your question. Basically, he'll get you an answer
Sometimes his answer is frankly speaking not great
It's just whatever he can quickly type up when he's going through the flurry of merge messages
But hey, at least you get something in return you get acknowledgement from Dan and you get your order in the mail
Which is better than a lot of sort of throw money at the screen streamer things
So that's how merge messages work Dan. Do you want to show them how a curated one works? Sure
Hey, LDE does Intel with their XE to graphics
Potentially make the cut and shift things for NVIDIA HQ to make them change their path. I
Don't know. I really don't think so. I think that if I'm NVIDIA right now
I am looking at XE as kind of like an interesting side show
Because like all you got to do to figure out where NVIDIA's priorities lie is follow the money, right?
so I Forget the exact mix right now because I haven't looked at it in a little bit and it's not the kind of thing that keeps me up at
Night. I'm not an NVIDIA shareholder But what I can tell you is that there has been a big shift in their revenues between
What used to make them a predominantly gaming?
Oh and also professional visualization company to what they are now, which is a predominantly enterprise
Compute company that has a gaming ARM
Right now XE to is not any real threat to Intel's enterprise ambitions
and So I just think they're probably
Looking at this Kind of going okay. Well, this is a thing that exists and we're aware of I doubt there
I doubt it's going to I doubt it's going to result in any kind of
Significant shift in strategy at NVIDIA with that said with that said NVIDIA has gotten to where they are by being
ruthless competitors sometimes when it just like
Doesn't even matter when they could totally just let someone else have a bone
They're like no, I will have all the meat and all the bones and all the broth and all the vegetables
And everyone else can have nothing and that's gotten them to where they are today
So you never know with NVIDIA. They might just ignore arc treat it as a complete non-threat
I mean Intel is currently a ship without a captain even how is how can you take them that seriously?
but They also might just go hmm someone else got a morsel
Let's cross them You never can't tell with those guys
This mounting bracket is stuck and I'm doing my best to stall for time while I fix it
But I'm having a very difficult time with it. The ARM is
Stuck too high and it won't come down low enough to grab the to grab the thing Dan
Do you have another merch message to help me stall with? Oh
Good, I just one just came in. Oh nice wonderful. How do you know if you're in love?
what
What what kind of wait what is that a real merch message? That's not you made that up
It'll pop up on the screen in a second. No way. It's from Bradley. Nobody sent that
There it is. Oh It's real. He can't fake that to my knowledge. I don't lie. How do you know if you're in love? Well
Let me put it this way You see that special computer
You lock eyes for the first time
She's running doom eternal Actually, that's a that's a bit of an older it's a bit of an older game, which is fine
Which is fine. It's fine to be into the older computers some of them. They've
They've really taken care of themselves and what that's okay. Sorry. This is really this is really coming off the rails here
India Indiana Jones in the great circle. They I
Don't know I don't know how to answer that question. So instead I'm just going to talk about fixing this cooler
It looks like it will require some disassembly so I've pulled out my
LTT precision screwdriver that hopefully oh wait, do I even need I need to do this? Oh
Goodness, I don't actually know if I need to take out this screw
But I'm I believe that you just hook over one of them and then throw down the latch on the other side
I don't think you have to remove that if you want to put it on the computer
No, no, no, no, the problem is that this is stuck. Oh
It won't come down So, no, no, I'm well aware of how to install an AMD stock cooler you guy
Thank you for that though. I
Was there when the AMD stock cooler was written Daniel Besser
Geez goes on the motherboard. Yeah, thank you for that
Technically the CPU but so the issue is that I need to get in there. I've seen this before where it gets jammed
Don't forget to put the CPU in first. So you guys thought you were tuning into a stream where we were going to be doing a
Built computer build but instead you're getting the first ever AMD stock cooler tear down on LTT
Are you kidding me? How does this come off? I?
Just need to get I just need to get in there
Okay, does the fan pop out or what?
Are you even serious right now AMD? Yeah, no, there's plastic clips that hold the fan in so we're just gonna
Bend those back ever so gently All the while cursing Elijah
The new cooler out here. Nope No, what I want to do is defeat this one. It is now my arch nemesis
Okay, I will give you two minutes before I called you two minutes. Yes, no way
Well, I don't want to drag this on too long line Oh, that's what the people came here to see they came here to see tech tips. I'm glad they did
But we have other things to shoot today. No, no, no. No, this is the only thing we're shooting today. Okay, there we go
Okay, so why is it stuck?
Buddy get get it together here
Okay What are you stuck on oh?
Oh Okay, so here's what happened
the ARM Got up too much somehow someone jammed it so it's getting stuck on the fins here
See that and this plastic tab right here
Is preventing it from moving over enough to not be stuck on the fins?
So what we got to do is we just got to kind of
force it a little Get oh my god get out of the way
Hey Even serious right now buddy. Oh, it's not no. No. No, it's much worse. It's much worse
So this piece right here you see that is supposed to be in between here and
Instead it's stuck on one of the fins
How did this happen How does this one I'm click oh
Yeah, there we go. Oh, I could have taken the whole thing off without undoing those screws. There we go. Okay
There we go. So now we can bend this fin back
You following Andy? This can go in between there where it's supposed to be
Okay, so it's got that that slide so you can stretch it over the thing
This can come back on there we go
All right, take that stock cooler. You just got tech tipped
You're fixed Well, it's not necessarily fixed yet. I could still break these little plastic clips while I'm putting it back together
There we go there we go
That is how it's supposed to work supposed to be able to come down in order to fit over the thing
All right Then you got any more merge messages. Yeah, sure. I get a couple here hit me
How do you think AMD will compete with the 50 series and the Intel B series?
Dude, I Don't know the more I look at it and obviously, you know, I don't know anything about the performance of 50 series yet
Certainly nothing concrete. We don't have cards in hand and even if we did I wouldn't be able to tell you anything about them
I don't know anything about AMD's upcoming cards other than that. I could probably speculate that
just like with the PlayStation 5 Pro we're probably going to see improved upscaling
Because AMD and Sony seemed to make it very clear that there was some next-generation
Hardware going on there So upscaling and ray tracing I would expect to be very much improved in AMD's next-generation products other than that
I don't really know anything concrete about them. There is the rumor that AMD is basically
Not gonna bother with the very high-end anymore
And they've done that before with some success. They've actually done it twice
They skipped having high-end cards in their old
3000 series like Radeon HD
3000 series so their top-end card was the 3870 with that like weird
Frankenstein crossfire card that had two 3870s on it acting as their flagship and then they did it again with Polaris
So the 500 series Where the 580 or I think technically they had a 590, but it was basically a 580
So the 580 was their top-end card that time
and they managed to they managed to by focusing on just
kind of that That affordable mainstream price point they managed to gain
I don't know a little bit of momentum and they came back with high-end cards, but then
They still haven't managed to kind of keep that momentum. So I don't know what to tell you
AMD AMD's GPU team just hasn't been able to execute the same way that their CPU team has been able to and without being
Embedded in that team. I wouldn't be able to tell you exactly
Why that is I can just tell you that what I'm observing from the outside is that they're having a heck of a time with it
and it's it's honestly kind of frustrating from my perspective because
In some ways, I don't even I don't even think they're doing like a horrible job, right?
It's not like they don't have competitive products out there. It's just
They just somehow don't seem to be executing they can't get the sales
All right, here we go, sorry I
There we go, I couldn't reach this screw anymore once that was back on there
There we go. All right, Dan hit me again Chuck why does LGT store not wait? No, I wasn't done yet. Never mind. I lied
so long story short I
suspect strongly That AMD is probably I think we're I think based on the rumors
We're probably gonna see a repeat of that strategy where they kind of target a mainstream price point and
You know for better or for worse, we're gonna we're gonna see how that goes and then
As for Intel, I think they've I don't think they've given any real indication so far that we're gonna see a higher-end arc
So it looks like Intel is gonna be gunning for that that value segment that like e-sports gamer segment
as for NVIDIA I
Think it's very clear that they're extremely comfortable at the at the top of the roost
Maybe what we'll see is a future where
NVIDIA is completely dominant at the top mostly dominant in the mid-range and then AMD and Intel are kind of fighting it out in the value segment
Which I think would be really good for gamers because you'd effectively have some competition
everywhere other than the you know 1500 to $2,000 cards where I mean realistically if people can afford that then
What do they need the competition for anyway, apparently they can afford that
Okay Are you kidding me? I seem to have re broken
No, no, no, I will fix it
Dan will give me one more merge message and then I will I will quickly I will quickly fix and elate it
Why does LTD store not have Canadian dollars for pricing for fellow Canadian shoppers?
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So all of our pricing is effectively derived from our costs in US dollars
Meaning that if we had pricing in Canadian dollars, it would simply be derived from our USD pricing anyway
So it doesn't matter So as much as you can kind of look at the pricing and go oh, I could totally afford this if only they priced in Canadian dollars
That's not how it works The way it would work is our pricing would just be our pricing in US dollars
Times the exchange rate to Canadian dollars because our costs are in US dollars
so pricing it in Canadian the one benefit would be that
There's no exchange rate on the credit card, which is that is truly a good benefit
however maintaining an entire set of different storefront
for Canadian dollars when The cold hard truth is that Canadian shoppers are a small small small fraction of our base is
Is not something that our poor accounting department wants to deal with at this current time
Someday we may open up multi currency It is a feature that Shopify enables, but it is not a free feature that Shopify enables
I forget if it's first party or if it's through partners and so it's not
It's not necessarily something that will actually result in lower operating costs or lower pricing
Because if we're absorbing the cost somewhere either running this feature
Then it's either that or you absorb the cost in your credit card fee
Basically every time we've run the numbers. It's pretty much come out in the wash and there's not much point in doing it
You know what there is a point in doing continuing this bloody PC build our total is now a hundred and fifty dollars that is
more than I would want to spend having only two parts, but
That's kind of what we're stuck with because modern generation rise and threes don't exist anymore
So let's move on and talk about our RAM. Ah, yes
this was once again determined by Low to high pricing with a filter for kits that run at at least 3200 megatransitters per second
I got to say guys. I am very excited to install the
Silicon power x power turbines we've got two 8 gig sticks which I would consider to be pretty
Minimal for modern gaming. This is one of those situations where in an ideal world
I would actually like very much to be able to put one 16 gig stick into a system like this and know that I'm going to
Upgrade to 32 gigs running in dual channel later, but every time I talk about that these days people get so mad at me
So there you go guys There's your two 8 gig sticks running in dual channel. You'll get the full performance today
But what it means is if you ever wanted to upgrade from 16 gigs to 32 gigs
You're gonna have to just chuck these and put in two 16 gig sticks
And I do understand that not running in dual channel these days is a significant performance penalty
Even compared to you know back in the day when many people used to do that
Just throw in one stick for now and then assume you're gonna throw in a second stick later when RAM got cheaper
But I Don't know I think personally I would take the compromise
especially because like a big part of I
Don't know what I because a big part of the reason that we did it back then too was that
RAM prices were kind of always going down
Whereas now they do mostly always go down, but they're especially for DDR4. They're kind of already rock bottom
So there's no like oh, it's gonna get cheaper later so I can upgrade for a fraction of the price
So I don't know maybe that's something where for another you know
$19 or what would we pay for this thing like 18 bucks or something like that? It was very cheap. It was like 21
I think yeah, so for another 20 bucks. Maybe it's worth it to go
$560 and just get all the RAM you need today now storage
This one's gonna be a bit of a longer story. See we almost went full Intel for this build
Which would have been kind of hilarious doing a $500 value gaming all Intel build. What even timeline am I on?
We were thinking maybe we'd use a 12 100 f CPU
But the problem is the cheapest Intel motherboards that we could find from reputable brands did not support NVMe SSDs and
In present year, I just don't feel right putting a SATA SSD into a brand-new build if I can avoid it
There are situations where SATA SSDs make sense say for example if you had already filled your m.2 slot on a motherboard like this
Yeah, by all means add a SATA SSD, but if we're talking your boot drive
You're gonna want to use an NVMe drive I mean their priced pretty much the same these days because most of the cost is just the flash itself
so We did avoid using a SATA SSD and we went with this Patriot P 300 PCA e gen 3 m.2
It's 512 gigs which I mean I consider a great value considering how much Apple would charge for that
Yeah, or whatever anyway jokes aside jokes aside
I know that 512 gigs is not the most space in the world
In fact, I would even go as far as to say it's not really ideal
Like it's enough that you could have some smaller games installed and maybe like
One top tier game, you know like
Final Fantasy 16 you pick that up from green man gaming and then a bunch of smaller games
And that's basically all you can do but
Your mic Anyway, the point is it's enough that you can at least get started and you can always you know add a hard drive or something
Like that on one of the four SATA ports later, although with that said does this case even have hard drive?
Okay, well, we'll get to the hard drive conversation later for now
Let's get this SSD installed and I think we're due to check out some stuff on green man
And let these guys tell us what games we're gonna play later. Absolutely. Okay, cool. Well, let's get the SSD installed real quick here
I'm not monitoring chat. Are people enjoying the stream or yeah, seems very
Very enjoyable. I hate it. There's a lot of people on YouTube. Oh, shoot. There's a lot of people watching
Oh, yeah, that's the thing about streaming earlier in the day. Yeah, there's almost there's 18 and a half thousand people watching
Oh, hey, what's up YouTube?
All right, there we go boom M.2 installation
Man, it's crazy. I never know what the right amount of instruction to give these days is like back in the day
We could kind of make the assumption that yeah You know most of our viewers are building a computer for the first time or whatever these days
And there could be people that have been watching LTT for 15 years
So if I'm sitting here going yeah, I take your I'm about to drive and put it in at an angle
Make sure it's snug put it down to in the screw like those guys are gonna get bored
But then we also get feedback from people that are building a computer for the first time that are like whoa
Whoa Dude slow down. I got no idea what's going on
I almost wonder if there'd be some value to like
Like creating a for basics Channel or something like that because we we tried to do some some basic stuff on the main channel back in the day and it just
Did not fly
The audience Like hated that I mean even the more recent how to build a PC last guide you'll ever need those videos
Bomb out of the gate and then it's not till YouTube's like like recommended or up next and all their various
Algorithms pick it up that they start to to get anybody watching them. All right
Are we just going on to green man give me do you have screen cap like should I go do this over there?
We can if you'd like I was planning on you just doing on your laptop you picking three
And then we'll do a poll on Floatplane for chat to pick one. I get to pick three. Yeah
So let's look through three games that are available on green man. Okay, cool. Yeah, we can do that
All right, cool. So Andy. Yeah, I guess I'll just turn this around and we'll hope that I don't get any
Notifications that are highly confidential by switching my teams to do not disturb. There we go. I
do okay, is it just me but
Like managing my status on chat apps. I can't
Okay, okay, it's not just me like I
literally Can't like I see people that are like they have their status set for their vacation
They've got their status set when they go home at the end of the day
They got their status set when they're in a meeting. They're on a conference call. I'm like
Like guys is it full plane chat, is it just me
It's Floatplane chat working it is oh
Couple people said they agree. Is it doing the thing? Oh
No, I just have to refresh the page. Okay, I'm gonna refresh the page because I
Do not have enough brain cycles for that like I have no yeah, not just you okay
Thank you. And yes. Yes, I know that you can have automatic ones
But that only helps if you happen to be on your meeting in that app
Like I don't know and I'm sure you could build automations for like your calendar or whatever
But I got to tell you with the number of people that have access to my calendar My calendar is a disaster like I would be in do not disturb or like in a meeting or in a shoot
All the time and I don't even blame the people that that helped me with my calendar
Like I get it because a lot of the time but the amount of time that I take to do something is unpredictable
Like for instance, I'm doing a gaming stream where I'm building like a basic computer with like six parts
We've been streaming for over half an hour and all I've done is put a cooler on a motherboard and CPU and a RAM
That's that's like nothing. I mean look poor Elijah is dying over here. He's dying
Yeah, because his boss is gonna be like yo Elijah. What the heck? Why is the stream taking so long?
Don't you don't you make sure that coolers work before you give them to Linus?
Do you have any idea how important Linus is? See, I I never have those conversations because I think that's silly. I love fixing things
But there's there's people there's people that have like performance targets to hit and they're all like Elijah
Why are you taking so long? Why are we we need more Linus time? See you can see he's that to be fair
This stream has a very high average viewership right now, so I'm good. My metrics are hit. I'm good
Do you have metrics for that like I don't think for like we're basing things off some views and like how videos perform
Oh, really? I think in the long term. We'll see how this stream does as a vaude. Oh, interesting
But as of right now, this is there's a lot of people watching so this is good I know so little about how that stuff works these days now, but I don't actually have any direct reports
So I just kind of stand here and I do my thing I fix coolers
What am I supposed to be doing green man gaming? Oh, yeah green man gaming our sponsor our sponsor green man gaming
All right, let's go check it out Yeah, I can brighten the screen. Whatever you want Andy. Whatever's good for you
all right, oh Holiday sale well, let's jump right into that obviously right and maybe maybe Floatplane chat can give us some
Suggestions you guys don't get to pick my three, but you can give some suggestions for my three
Okay, I still Have never played a God of War game, which is extremely embarrassing
What kind of game should we play? Oh
Dude
Civ 6 is 20 Canadian dollars. That's like 15 you 14 US dollars or something like that. What is this?
What's what's anthology is like anthology like not good or something?
Like what happens if I switch to one of the other ones? Oh
Lordy, okay, so so what makes it anthology guys help me out here
Seven is just around the corner that makes sense. Yeah, but I heard civ 6 is really good. I haven't actually played it
Anthology includes all the civ 6 content released including the game the 60 LC packs. Oh, this is like the whole thing
Okay, I mean that seems like a W right
Cool what else we got here That's my hockey not working alt left arrow. Hello, buddy. Okay, cool. Did that not go that did not go in the cart
Okay, that's fine. We'll add this part here. There we go. Oh now I've got to all balls
I'll take a copy. Yeah, I'm I'll figure it. I'll figure that out later. Okay. What else we got here
Bungie holiday, so they didn't make games other than like destiny
Like what what what's in here, huh? We got destiny to the witch queen destiny to the light and darkness
Destiny to the final shape and annual pass destiny to the final shape destiny to shadow keep pack
destiny to lightfall destiny to legacy collection destiny to bungee 30th anniversary pack destiny to beyond the light pack
At this point did I call it or what like people are thinking this is sponsored by destiny to at this point
It's sponsored by green man. Okay. Yeah, I'm not even I'm not even buying that
Okay, let's find some let's find some crazy deals
Games over 75% off
Mmm killer seven that's tempting for 10 bucks
What else we got what's all the zombie stuff zombies on a plane
Zombie army for is there is it our zombies trending right now is our zombies back
They never left Linus you suck at parking sounds fun. I
Think I'd be down for this. I do kind of suck at parking the world's most extreme parking experience
Sure Sure, let's do it
Let's do it. Okay. You suck at parkings in the cart
Let's show some more results. Let's find some deals here boys
Let's find one more and then we'll get chat to pick between those three civ six you suck at parking and
You know what I have never played an x-com game
Which as someone who loved Final Fantasy Tactics and generally loves tactics games
As if anybody ever put an actual real date in here
There we go Is sort of embarrassing I should I should probably I should probably have played x-com
So I'm gonna I'm gonna check out this x-com collection
Hello continue Does it know I'm lying
There's no way oh, it's just taking a sec, okay, all right, that's gonna be my three
That's gonna be my three. Would you like to do a poll? We'll do a poll on Floatplane
Oh, see which one they pick cuz we won't have time to do all three
Okay, so we should see what you let them pick let them pick two, okay
Also, you know what maybe throw God of War in there because I
Personally kind of want to see like a modern triple a game. I'm just I didn't add it to my card on green man because I already own it
Let me actually let me make sure Let's see. Let me see which God of War I own I bought one at some point because I was like, okay
This is embarrassing. I haven't played a God of War game ever and then I just never played it
So let me see which one I have and then oh My god, I don't have how do I not have my own steam account signed into this computer
This is what happens when you are streaming live and you don't
There we go, all right cool I am now signed in but yeah, let's throw let's throw God of War in there
And then I'll just buy it from green man now if I don't have the right one so you can go ahead and put the poll up
All right, so on Floatplane. There's a poll top two win God of War civilization six you suck at parking or XCOM
So everyone on Floatplane can vote Kind of want to try you suck at parking too. I don't know
I might just hang around and play games for a bit after I build my computer
I mean, that's my reward for building a new computer as I get to play games, right?
Well, we're actually planning a stream We're doing a stream. Oh, that's right. We are doing a stream
We can promote the stream So just like we did back when Intel launched their arc alchemist first generation cards where we sat down and we played
Basically any game you guys asked us to play on arc to see whether it would work
Or if there'd be any weird artifacts or anything like that
We're gonna be doing the same thing again this time with battle mage
And we've got some ideas to kind of streamline it
So our goal is to get through like double to three times as many games
I have no idea if we're gonna be able to pull it off because
between unskippable loading scenes and Actually getting to the point in the game where you take control of the character and like all that kind of stuff
There could be some there could be some challenges
But we're gonna do our best we're gonna try okay, so no I only have God of War
I don't have God of War Ragnarok, so I'm gonna go ahead and just add that to my cart real quick on green man
Thanks again green man gaming for sponsoring the stream Do I have any like talking points for them or anything like that? It's just their holiday sale till January 10th
Go check it out. They're adding more games Up until that date as well, so keep checking back in you know every other day or so heck. Yeah
Okay, do I want the digital deluxe? I don't think I care I could just get the regular God of War Ragnarok right I save eight bucks
Okay, cool View cart wait
Which which board did I say I had you wanted God of War civilization six you suck at parking and an ex-com game
Oh, that's right. Yeah, and it was an ex-com anthology. Okay, that actually looks like a pretty good deal
Okay, that's the one that I'm missing. I must not have pressed that. All right. Why don't we continue our build here?
Elijah can you can you check this out? Yes, sir. All right. Thank you there ex-com the ultimate collection
That's the one I want looks like you suck at parking and God of War are winning right now anyways
Really? That's what chat wants us to play. Yeah, but this is 89% off
So I just want to buy it anyway because I don't have any ex-com games. Okay, okay
So if you could do that and here's my wallet yippee. See you later
Well, I'm gonna buy myself some games now, right?
No, okay
All right, let's move on to our case
This is another area where you could probably save some money compared to our build whether that's just getting a case for free from a friend
Or a computer shop or even a recycling pile or whether that's I mean, yeah
Facebook Marketplace or Craigslist We have had a lot of success over the years getting free cases. In fact, I don't know if I can think of a scrapyard wars where
When you account for the other value of stuff that we bought like there have definitely been situations where we have
exchanged money and Got in a case
But I don't think that either Luke or I have ever actually
Paid for the case as part of that if you get what I mean
Like we were already getting a deal on the hardware itself and by the way
There's a case or we get them for free getting a free case is
such an like ultimate level hack for getting a better deal on a computer because
This case cost us. What was it like 40 bucks or something like that 35 bucks? Okay 35 bucks and it is
Boy, is it ever? Unexceptional, okay, and if you think about that 35 bucks even though that's the cheapest case we can find is still about
What does that work out to about seven to eight percent of our budget?
So if we just didn't buy a case, that's the equivalent of everything else we buy being on sale
You know being seven to eight percent off and us being able to get better hardware elsewhere
Anyway, because the goal of this build was not to you know scrapyard wars it the goal of this build was to build a
Brand-new computer for around 500 bucks
We did not go for the second-hand case option But this is a this is one of the big ways that you guys could definitely stretch a dollar this by the way
No, I am not exceptionally strong this case is just exceptionally light
This is the DIY PC s 08 dash G
Shockingly it has a tempered glass side panel. It actually has kind of a pretty looking paint job
It's just the it's just the features and the room to work where it's going to be a little on the lacking side
there's also areas where just like
I don't know how much money this saved them But it cheaps out in ways that I don't think I have ever seen before check this out. Check this out
So where the IO shield clips in okay normally you would have like a solid edge along each side
Not on the DIY PC s 08 G. No, sir
Here you get a solid piece on that side You get a little tab on the bottom to click it into a little tab on the top. You see that little tab Andy
Okay, you get a little tab on the top and then on this side
They took four little full d tabs and you've got those four little full d tabs to kind of to kind of click it against
I don't even think no, I don't even think they play a role in holding it into place
So you're just using the tabs on the bottom and the side to hold it in as far as I can. Oh, no, no, they do they do
Yeah, so you just got four little tabs there that hold it into place I mean realistically once the motherboard's in it's not going anywhere
But you got this like weird gap that I have never seen before
See this This This gap right here. You see that? Yeah weird, right?
What
Good tempered glass though doesn't break
Nice that was close
Uh, it's got um two front usb 2 ports
Front usb 3 front panel audio
Apparently it has support for 200 millimeter radiators. I mean other than just being like the cheapest thing I've ever seen
It's not bad Not bad for features. Let's see what the build experience is like
Elijah, did you already put in the standoffs that I need? Correct. Oh, wow. What a guy
I was actually going to go down memory lane with you Linus You're gonna go down memory lane. Okay. Well, why don't you come over here on camera if you're gonna do that
Do you remember the last time we tried to save money on a pc case? I do
Oh god, I brought it with us today. Oh, that's wonderful
Thank you. Elijah truly it is a work of art that we are unworthy of so yes
You can get a pc case for cheaper And it requires some work Dan might actually have some footage from that video that he can throw up on screen here
Where we butchered the heck out of this case in order to make it fit modern hardware
Oh my goodness not just fit modern hardware
Have adequate cooling for modern hardware. Look at those speed holes
Look at that fire extinguisher that you're holding Because it started to smoke when you were using the grinder on it
but look
Yeah, isn't it great and to be clear. Okay, not every older case is going to be all solid panels
On all sides and require this much tlc to get any cooling and even if it does
Hey, you can always just take off the side panel and take off the front panel
But realistically even spending
What do you spend 35 bucks on this? Yeah. Yeah, even spending 35 dollars on a case is um
Going to get you something that's going to look a little nicer and a little more modern
I actually um coming around to this thing. You know what I miss though
I miss like antech having killer
Case power supply combos like the antech sonata
For instance was just it was awesome because you got a decent enough case
You got a quality power supply and it was at a really really attractive price having to buy those parts separately not in a bundle
Basically as a requirement like I can't think of anyone other than like
Does like raid max or logisys still do case power supply combos?
I just I can't think of anyone who makes a power supply
You would actually want to put in your system that does case power supply combos anymore
What's out there? Is there anything still? I know logisys still does logisys still does. Yeah, I don't know about raid max though
No offense to logisys. I would not consider putting a logisys power supply on my computer
I'm sorry. It's just not really an option. This is this is tech tips not tech
disaster show All right, we're doing not bad
Looking pretty good. Apparently I'm supposed to do a merge message
Yeah, sure. I've got a couple here hit me Dan. Hey Linus is a darn tough fan
Have you also had issues with their socks being overly snug and difficult to put on?
Is that something you have found with the upcoming LTT socks any advice? Oh
Okay, am I rocking the darn tuts today? Oh, nope. I have prototype socks. Never mind. Ignore those
I actually consider that a feature not a bug
I actually like that long after their first wear because oh man
Okay, I don't want this to get you know
You know into like kinks or anything like that But I can't think of too many things that I like more than putting on a brand new pair of socks like so good
The point is the fact that darn tough socks stay like tight
So when you put them on they're like, you know, they're They're like it's like a hug for your foot. I actually like that. I consider that a feature our socks would definitely have
Like a like a like a tighter kind of fit Um, but there's actually practical reasons for that as well
I find that they work almost as like a type of compression sock for me. So I
I I wear the like the high ones and I find that when I'm doing sports like whether I'm you know running or
Playing badminton or whatever else. I used to get shin splints back when I would wear like lower socks
So I wouldn't wear tight socks. So I finally actually work as a compression sock for me and uh, yeah
I consider it a feature My understanding is that tight socks can help help prevent like blood pooling as well. So
Get used to it would be the best advice that I can that I can give you
Oh, yeah, especially especially when traveling Yeah, Andy Andy is an expert on the dangers of traveling these days
and I'm not going to get into any more detail than that because
That would involve his personal information, which I have not asked him if I can disclose but
Um, yeah compression socks on the plane very good idea
Now it's time to talk power supply. This Was probably the most challenging component of this build to choose because pretty much everything else was chosen for us
The arc b580 is the only reasonable value
GPU at that that we can you know target this price point with we went with the cheapest motherboard
We went with the cheapest reasonable CPU the cheapest RAM the cheapest SSD
Then the cheapest case like everything else. We were just picking what we can afford for our $500 budget
For the power supply you guys can probably already see
That we spent a little extra on it We could have gone with a $20 special from someone like logisys or coolmax
Even oh over here even this smart 500 watt from thermal take
Would have saved us enough that we could have between this and the motherboard gotten down to our $500 budget
We could have done that But the thing is lucas from the lab
He's a lot better than me I mean, I don't know. I think if push came to shove I could probably find somewhere to hide that like he couldn't fit
And he couldn't like get to me Either way, it's not ideal
So we were forced to choose something that he approved of and that's why we stretched our budget here
And we picked up the minimum that he recommended the Corsair cx 550 watt bronze
It's about $60 a lot more than I would want to spend. That's about 12 percent of our total budget
But it occasionally goes on sale for about 10 bucks off
There's another thing to note about this. It is not the full 600 watts that Intel recommends for this GPU
But we talked to lucas about it and he said that
realistically that seems to come down to the arc b580 having somewhat higher transients and as long as you've got a quality
150 watt unit Like a passable quality unit. It should be fine and that's what we've got here
So let's go ahead and get this installed So thank you lucas and the rest of the Labs team for the hard work that you guys do to make sure that whatever we're recommending
Even if we're on a tight budget is something that we can stand behind that is not going to fail you
When you're in the middle of a session All right, let's get this bad boy installed. We got four. Oh, I guess I got options, right?
Um, does this have a filtered intake on the bottom? Wow, you know what for 35 bucks?
I'm actually kind of liking this case. Elijah It's not the world's prettiest filter or anything like that
But she's got a a filtered bottom intake and raised feet
So even if we're on like a medium pile carpet our power supply is not going to suffocate
Kind of i'm kind of coming around to this case. Elijah
All right, this doesn't mean that I want to spend money on a case when I have a $500 budget
It just means that if I have to spend money on a case for my $500 budget, I consider this one
Acceptable you haven't cable managed yet. So we'll see that's that's true
That is that is true words that you have coming from your mouth. Um, do you have my laptop? Yeah, sorry
I was hoping to look at slow playing chat, but I can't Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't want to interrupt you
Hey Linus Elijah and Sir Besser Do you still value and use mechanical gadgets like mechanical watches and log cameras?
Or FX racks over digital ones. It's sad to see these industries fading
Oh boy Man, I got to tell you
I don't personally have a ton of nostalgia for analog devices like I
I grew up with a rotary telephone and the second I got a touch tone phone. I was like, yo
This is better And then when I had a touch tone phone with a wire the second I got a 900 megahertz cordless. I was like, yo
Drop kick boom see a later old phone and then and then when I got a cellular telephone
I was like no way. I don't have to be at home within range of my base station to use this dude progress
I love progress dude. My first camera I owned was a digital camera. That was my first
Hold on trying to think if there's anything before that
No, I don't think so My first major expense
Growing up was I bought myself a digital camera and I think it was
Grade 10. This is before I bought myself a pc
So I loaded my photos from that digital camera my power shot a 20
So this is like 500 bucks or whatever. It's a lot of money for me at the time. I was I was in high school
I I loaded my photos from my power shot a 20 onto my pentium
I was either a 166 or a 90 or something like that like I
I had like an actual crap tier computer. It was more important to me to get a digital camera
And I didn't want like I forget what it was even called There was like this weird little like really cheap one that was like, you know
144p like weird video thing that I got for a christmas present and I asked for a gift receipt
I took it back. I got like a hundred dollars credit or something like that towards that power shot a 20
That was like my first major paid for myself expense and I have never
looked back at film and gone. Wow That would be so much better
Not once I'm so sorry Um, I'm just I'm the kind of person that when I'm evaluating something
I'm all about okay, but how much does it cost me tomorrow?
Like what's my what's my per shot cost with this thing?
Um, and it's not like I don't see the value of like developed photos
It's it's a lot of fun to go back and look at old scrapbooks and stuff like that. I think that you know, polaroids invite
They invite fun, you know, there's just something about it that is that is fun, but
I just I I can't get over the the the calculating part of my brain that goes
$1.20
$1.20 And maybe maybe I'm just not a fun person
Maybe that's what it comes down to because I feel the same way going to like a commercial paintball field
I'm like nickel nickel nickel nickel nickel nickel, you know, like I just
I I have a really hard time with things that have a continuous cost It's one of the reasons that I love pc gaming so much or at least I used to before everything was gacha
Um, because you could buy that game once and get so much value out of it through
You know the incredible modding community or through multiplayer and and and always changing experiences and
um It's one of the reasons that I just
Never understood like even when xbox 360 was like the king and and was incredible. I was like
I'm sorry. Sorry. It has You like pay to play online like every month
What like I I
Okay, like I guess See you later. I'll get that game eventually anyway and in some cases I was wrong
Um, but in a lot of cases Yeah, I was uh, I was I was less wrong
So back to your question film cameras
It's not even about the inconvenience of developing the film for me because if anything I think that inconvenience is actually
It can actually be a good thing or like the less inconvenience more ritual, right?
Going there getting the putting in the film for development and you know, whatever else and it forces you to do it
Uh, because otherwise there's no way to ever see the pictures
Whereas with digital you can kind of like quickly look at it on your phone and then you never bother
You never get around to it. And so in some ways I actually think the convenience of film is
Sort of superior in the actual experience of doing it
Because you might actually you might actually follow through and develop something
I think printing things is really inconvenient and that's why almost nobody does it
um, but I just can't get over the the in my mind impracticality
of paying Like a significant amount of money for every single shot I take even if it's like out of focus or crappy
I like being able to go click click click click click click and hope that I get a good one I take a lot of my pictures of kids and animals though. So like
Film is especially wasteful when your kids are making stupid faces or whatever else
We actually just shot a ShortCircuit yesterday rounding up instant cameras. So like instax polaroid
What's their nuts kodak has kodak has one that has like a little built-in printer in it and stuff like that
And it's funny because they totally knew their audience when they prepped the video
They prepared like a like a cost per shot for me as part of you know, evaluating which ones
Which ones I like to actually co-host it with Yvonne as part of
Promoting Yvonne week on Floatplane where it's going to be. I think there's an interview with her
She doesn't meet the cats where she shows off all of our cats. So we're going to have that
at lng.gg slash Floatplane very very shortly
Sorry, I'm just wiring up the front panel stuff. I realize I'm just building a computer not actually talking about it here
They're our 24 pin power connector our 4 pin power connector up here
Got our front usb 3 front panel connectors
All of this is this is nice like I remember old budget boards
There's no way they would have you know all the connectors silkscreened on there
So you don't have to look at the manual or anything like that. This is actually
perfectly Acceptably adequate to build in I have no real complaints so far
hd audio Boom. All right. That's it. Our front panel connectors are done
Would you like to know the two games that won? I I would like to know the two games that won. Yeah hit me
It was almost 50 for you suck at parking nice and then god of war god of war
Okay, we have to get this built because we're gonna have to make sure those are installed because I didn't know that
Those were the two that we're gonna win so Well, uh, you could start uh downloading god of war now, right?
Possibly I onto a game drive. Do you have a game drive? No. Oh, all right cool
Now for the moment We've all been waiting for the reason that we are able to make a kick-ass gaming computer for our console like price
The Intel arc b580 if you guys haven't seen our full review of this card
It is a must watch But the tldr is that it's out for as little as 250 us dollars and in our suite of games
It was able to handle 1080p ultra settings and never drop its average FPS below 60
To say that this is the type of game changing disruptive GPU that the entry gaming market needed would be a gross
Understatement the fact that we're even calling
$250 entry level is such a mind-blowing thing to me
It says so much about the way that NVIDIA and AMD have abandoned budget gamers
Like you used to be able to get something not garbage from NVIDIA and ati for like 100 bucks in change
Nowadays cards for 110 dollars actually, you know what this is worth
This is worth pausing not talking about arc for a second and firing up new egg again. Check this out you guys
We did this as part of the uh as part of the prep for the video
Okay, here. I'll just throw this on On the ground
Ah Okay components and storage GPU and graphics card devices. Okay. Check this out gaming video cards
Here we go sort by
lowest price Okay, let's take out refurbished. Let's see if I can find the refurbished tag this time condition. Here we go
Maybe this is where I was able to find it new
All right
Oh This is actually not that bad. Okay, you can get a 6500 xt. Hey, where was that where was that stupid junk from NVIDIA that we
Well, I haven't seen anything from NVIDIA. Uh, let's see. Let's see what we can find from NVIDIA
We're all the way up to 170 dollars. We haven't found a single NVIDIA card yet. Here you go. You can find some
Okay, how is this new are they still selling 30 50s? This has one egg
I'm not even sure if I believe that we're all the way up to 180 dollars
So apparently we have to change our filter to
components and storage Just GPU's
What's up this one? Yeah, there you go This is a 1030 if you want an NVIDIA card for like 100 bucks in change
You are literally getting what is this like a seven year old GPU or six year old GPU or something like that
The architecture was eight years old. I believe An eight year old architecture like guys this design is older than my youngest child
Pretty much only suitable for outputting a secondary display AMD
a little bit better but this
1080p ultimate
1080p Did I say ultimate I meant ultra the point is it's got 22nd generation battle mage xe course 20 ray tracing units
Clock speeds of up to 26 70 megahertz and a total board power of 190 watts not to mention that they gave a huge
fu to the incumbents by equipping it with 12 gigs of vram for those of you who are out of the loop
That's a really big deal and the conversation has been going on for a little while
But obviously it hasn't been going on enough to reach NVIDIA's ears back when they released the 40 60
There was a lot of conversation around the $200 paywall that they put in front of getting more than eight gigs of RAM
because at I believe it was 399 you could get the 40 60 with eight gigs
At 499 you could get the 40 60 ti
But still with eight gigs of RAM and you had to go all the way up to 5 99 to get the 40 60 ti 16 gig
Which was functionally pretty much the same thing as the regular ti
But just with a modern amount of vram on it and there was no 40 60 16 gig
so They had a 40 60 starting at 400 dollars
But if you wanted something that was going to be able to keep up in modern games
You had to spend 600 dollars which
Is more than this entire computer Even after we blew our budget
Now in fairness those cards have come down a little bit
But anyone who invested in them got a really awful value
We predicted and many predicted at the time that not having 16 gigs or at least more than eight gigs of vram
Was going to be a problem very soon and it turns out that we are
Very soon a clock later and it's already a problem indiana jones in the great circle has a clear performance penalty from using an eight gig card
And it's only been
What has it been like a year and a half since the 40 60 came out? I'm trying to remember what the actual
What the actual timeline is elijah. Do you mind checking the release date of the 40 60 series? Yes, sir real quick
Thank you so much in the meantime. I'm going to look for a 632 k screw here
It looks like it was june 2023 era. Oh my yeah, so a year and a half ago. Oh man
I'm good Nice nailed it kill Linus. Anyway, the point is
It has issues with eight gig cards and that is in spite of it being an invidious sponsored title
So you go and you buy one of invidious basic, you know ray tracing ready cards or whatever
And you're going to have issues with a game that comes out just a year and a half later
Anyway, we've got our arc battle mage in here. Let's go ahead and get this plugged in
Here we go and a boop
And that's it That my friends is how you build a pc
Now this is not a perfect pc. In fact, I would say that it's a pretty safe bet that
We would need to add at least I'd say
An intake fan here I'd say once we've got an intake fan on the front to use this vent draw some fresh air across our GPU
This exhaust and that intake working together is probably enough
But worst-case scenario we are on a tight budget. We have
500 bucks to spend we can always add a fan later and we can run our side panel off until our you know our next
Lawn mowing session or you know, whatever it takes for us to get like, you know eight bucks for a fan off of
Tmu or whatever Elijah do you want to grab a monitor and let's uh, let's get this thing going
Oh, I guess I should do a little bit of cable management first. Do you mind grabbing a couple zip ties real quick?
Okay, in the meantime Dan, do you want to hit me with a merge message? Yeah, sure
Doing a bit laggy on the stream here. Hold on. Let me just pause this
Hi del we're stocking my gift card stockpile after the holiday buying
Have you ever got refused tech support because of a so-called incompatible hardware like having g4 snot quadro?
Oh Uh, oh, oh, I mean we ran into something like this very recently
I don't know about refused tech support, but we've definitely been told
Yeah, there's there's nothing we can do for you. You've got the wrong thing in situations where I don't personally feel that
That makes a lot of sense. We talked about this when we were looking at that that spatial Labs
stereoscopic 3d monitor that that acer co developed
And they have a commercial version of it that for whatever reason
Is locked from running games like you you you can't you you I I understand. Okay. Yeah, fine
I can't run the commercial stuff on the the gaming version of it. No problem
But why on earth would you tell me that I'm not allowed to game on my like like professional grade one?
Who are you to tell me? I'm not allowed to play video games on this thing when it costs so much more
Like the one that costs more should just it should be everything that the cheaper one is
And more not just I'm not going to go buy another one to play video games
Um, so I thought that was I thought that was pretty bananas. That one was pretty recent
I'm trying to think of anything personally though and nothing really springs to mind for me
Elijah, have you ever run into anything like that? Sorry, I missed the merge message. Sorry, you bought the wrong you bought the wrong
product I can't I can't help you with that and their example was something like, you know running g4 strivers on quadro
Just like artificial software lockdowns
I feel like I probably have had a story when I used to do it support
Like I've reached out to the company that made the software that the company
I was dealing with was having issues and they're like you're using unsupported hardware and I'm like your
Your specification was Windows 7 or newer. So like what do you mean? I'm using unsupported hardware
And they were like, well, it's Windows 11 And I was like, well, that's newer
But it's like, oh, it hasn't been verified yet And it was like I had those examples when Windows 11 was just rolling out and we were deploying it on sites, but
I've definitely run into um Oh, dude, actually that reminds me. Yeah, I've run into quite a few where they won't install
Because you have the wrong version of Windows But it like totally doesn't matter and once you force it to install it totally works. Yeah, I
Hate that just try to install and if it doesn't work or whatever you can tell me it's unsupported during the installer
But do not outright block me from installing it. That's just
That's just wasting my time That's all you're that's literally all you're doing is wasting my time because I'm gonna figure out
I'm gonna go find the file and I'm gonna go, you know fill in the versions of Windows that you support or whatever
I'm just gonna I'm gonna go fix it anyway So all you're doing is making me do that which I don't like to do
The worst part was doing tech support for companies that are using older hardware
Whether it was like a specific CAD license or something that like only worked on xp
Yeah, and then obviously I can't phone the company and be like, hey, I want this to work on Windows 11
So I have to like figure it out I have to fight through either registry or other setting changes to get it to work because my client that we're serving
Refuses to change to anything newer, which is fair
You know what and valid in some cases Especially with stuff like CAD software. It's super valid. Yeah, like that machine just works panel by the way
Prove it Okay, anyways that machine just works
And their technicians like They're they they don't they don't care. Oh, yeah, they don't care about Windows or whatever
They just need to get their job done. No, I get it man. I get it
I mean, I think a lot of the time Our crowd right forgets that for a lot of people a computer is not fun
It is not a toy. It is just a tool
It is just like their pair of pliers. It is just like their, you know work
Smock it is it is nothing but a tool to a means to an end
Um, and for folks like that. Yeah, I get it. You don't want to just like go
Upgrading software and oh and in a lot of cases One of the reasons that they're locked into that older version of the software is not because a new one doesn't exist
Or that the new one doesn't have features they'd like to use But because the new one has switched to a subscription model
That was the biggest complaint always. I'm not paying for the new version
Because I owned this one and this one does everything I need it to do. Yeah
So why but they get a pop-up every four minutes or every time they boot it
Hey, have you considered subscribing to the new one? You'll get all these fancy features. Yeah, I have considered it. Yeah
The answer is no Um
Where'd that spritzer bottle that you had go there's one behind the arc. Nice. That's what you're talking about
Yeah, well, I didn't really want to I so but this will work. Okay. Well, I just want I want a nice clean side panel
I wanted to look her best, you know
Nice clean looking her best side panel for 500 bucks. Hey
500 bucks, dude Is so exciting for me to be able to build a 500 dollar computer again. Yeah, like this used to be my job
Back when I worked at NCIX I was in charge of like the PC configurations
So I would I would you know go and I would try and come up with
Creative ways to save a dollar here and there and like try to build the best thing that I can for the money
Um, did we lose a grommet? From the side panel. Maybe when it was already gone when I grabbed it from inventory. Oh got it. Okay. So it's not our fault
We didn't buy this brand new for the stream. We're sorry guys
But we already had it in inventory and it happened to be 35 dollars. So it matched our criteria
Got it makes sense. All right, let's pop this bad boy on here
Oh, yeah, oh wait. Oh, she's uh
She's not symmetrical Which is fine. I can work with this
There we go. I was gonna say is it because you dropped it. Did it bend? No
Elijah Uh, Dan want to hit me? Sure. We've seen quite a few of wacky fan configurations from Alex and the team
But when are you guys going to power a whole pc with the back feeding from spinning pc fans with an air compressor?
Oh Wow, what would that even look like?
So we'd have to get some kind of fixed voltage out of the fans
Which means we'd have to spin them all at kind of like the same speed
We'd have to Oh my god, that would be I don't know if we're gonna do that
Yeah Yeah, I don't know. I don't know if we're gonna do that. The answer is never. Yeah, that's it's a cool idea
But I think it's the kind of cool idea that as long as Alex doesn't watch the stream. We're never gonna have to do
All right timestamp dude 500 bucks
Okay, 540 but we could have cheaped out on our motherboard and cheaped out on our power supply 500 dollar class
Because we spend what 4 540 bucks, right? Yeah, uh, yes, it came out to 540 total freaking awesome
What card did you use? I just realized I gave my personal card to vans for
I grabbed the first one that was in there No
Wait, what this one I grabbed the one that looked like a bank card
This one here Yeah
Yvonne is gonna kill me that's a usd card the transaction was in CAD
I didn't well Do I spoil it that I didn't actually purchase with the card because we already have the games on our account
Oh, I just did that for the fun of it because you gave me the card. I was like, okay. Well, I'm not gonna actually buy the cards
I was just gonna put them on my account. Oh Okay, well, you're good. I didn't say buy the cards. I meant by the games. Okay. I didn't actually spend any money
Oh, I took it off camera because I was like, oh, it's probably just for the bit I was like ha ha buy the games. I was like, well, I'm not gonna actually dig through his wallet. No, I was I was
I don't fake things on camera. I want to play those games. I want I want the game
I'm not saying you don't want the games. I just you gave me your credit card. I'm like, I don't feel comfortable typing this in
Stop staring at me honestly stop just you're the one who's awkward
All right, bucko
I don't know man. I don't see I don't I don't think it's a big deal. Oh, hey, we don't have a desk pad. Oh
We do have our mod mat though. This is coming. This is going to be available on the store
Next year, right? I don't know if signups are ready yet, but this is coming out around mid january signups are up
Oh, okay. So then signups for the mod mat are up. Yeah, I don't know if this is the
Actual final version It looks pretty close. It's really close mod mats freaking awesome. I'm extremely proud of the team
It is class leading in every way price quality. I I believe the
Value of the information that's on it for like a typical pc builder
really really excited about this thing we worked with the
We we worked with the creator of the patented mod mat mod bright
In order to bring this to market. So everything's kind of
Buttoned up there really really excited
And like way more affordable than a lot of the other options that are out there right now
Pretty cool I still wouldn't recommend at a five hundred dollar pc budget
Blowing money on a on a mod mat to build it But especially as you're getting up into sort of higher prices where
That would not be a huge amount of your budget and wouldn't really cost you a significant amount of performance
It's not a bad idea and comes with an anti-static wrist strap and all that as well, of course
Wow, the stream latency is really low these days
Did they uh, did they decrease the stream latency on Floatplane? I have no idea probably maybe like check this out
That's just like a few seconds. That's really good great job guys. Thank you cool
All right, what do you think Elijah? Oh no, I whammyed it
Oh, we closed the side I closed the side panel. Oh, we're gonna be here for three hours
There's absolutely no shot that this thing powers on on the first go
Wait, wait, if we reopen the side if we reopen this now that doesn't count easily ruined it
It doesn't count once you close the side panel you have jinxed it officially
Sorry james Yeah, we really did try to get this done in a reasonable amount of time. That's okay. These guys like hanging out with us
Anyway, why isn't he plugging in? Dan hit me with a merge message. Sure
The power cable's not plugging in
Yes, sir Go ahead Dan has any discussion happened on bringing back the black shaft for the original gangster screwdriver
Now that the precision has proven itself mine was stolen recently and I love the black finish compared to silver
um This is not for this monitor. It was with the monitor. That's why I I can't I don't know what to tell you
They don't go together Um
If we can find a treatment that is black enough
And strong enough and durable enough and all the things that we need
We would love to do a black shaft screwdriver
but We haven't yet
And I wouldn't say that the precision is necessarily
Um Just just because we've done a black precision driver doesn't mean that we would do a black shafted regular screwdriver
There's a couple reasons for that one is that the precision driver is not the kind of thing that we expect people to just
Huck in their tool bag And you know get you know beat up
Um, we expect it to kind of live in a case whether it's ours or one from iFix it or someone like that
We expect it to kind of be cared for a bit more and mostly just hang out in your hands or on your desk on your project
mat or whatever Number two is that the screwdriver is not even made of this screwdriver is not made of the same material
This is anodized aluminum. So anodizing is an excellent high durability finish
It's still going to chip occasionally if you know you'd ding it on something or whatever
You can say I got a little one in mine, but because it actually transforms the top layer of the aluminum
It's it's really really really strong Um our shaft on the screwdriver is stainless steel. It's not
Anodized it's not anodizable Can you anodize steel?
Either way, it's definitely a different process and we have not found that it is good enough
Why don't you just like make it out of burzum or something?
All right, we are not exploring exotic materials for screwdriver shafts anytime soon
We've had enough nightmares with bad screwdriver shafts. All right, let's fire this thing up. Do you get it? You ready black metal?
Is it gonna work? Here we go
A fan is spinning. Yeah, that's a good sign
Got that RGB man
AMD and Intel better together
You know, it's crazy five years ago. Those would have been swapped. I know, right?
Wow, you went really high end on the uh monitor Elijah
The power cable is not on the shelf there. So I just grabbed the next monitor. Okay. Well, that's quite the monitor
We've got like a qto led what looks like. I think this is the 14. It's just the 4k. What Elijah?
What the heck dude? I think it is just the 4k 240 Hertz. Yeah, are you are you high?
Sorry, I don't think I'm allowed to ask you that. I don't think I can answer that
Why? Don't look in my eyes
All right down one hit me with another We lost your mic
Hey booted though. Okay, hit me. Oh, hey. Hey. Hey look
That that's good That's good. That's what we want
Dan do you want to hit me with another merge message while I reboot this thing so that I can actually dial in the RAM timings? Sure
has Sorry, no or did that one greetings from colorado Linus
What do you think about 3d movies watched through a vr headset and the complete lack of services to watch 3d movies nowadays?
Any thoughts on completely vr movies?
Oh, okay. I haven't tried
Apples vr movie experience thing whatever it's called. We're on the submarine. I really want to but after the review of the apple vision pro
I Brought it back to work and then I've never touched it again
I've been meaning to grab it and bring it home and try that just because I was called submerged or something like that
I think Anyway, I want to try it. It sounds super cool. I don't have an opinion until I actually try it
But what from what I've heard it is super cool
As for watching 3d movies in vr Awesome. I mean that is where you're going to get the best possible display
Um, but for me It's the same thing again that I brought up in my review of the apple vision pro
here hello Yeah, I'll do the Windows thing. Okay. Yes, sir. Or not. I was I was gonna help you like yeah, just hold shift when we're starting
yeah, um What was I saying 3d movies? Yeah, 3d movies
So it's the same thing that I brought up in the review of the apple vision pro right where
It's the best way to watch big screen content
As long as you're watching it by yourself and for a lot of people that's appealing for me. It's not I
almost Never
I almost never watch a movie by myself
um, especially not Oh, I'm trying to remember
Trying to remember like if I'm just like watching something on my phone
I will Um, or if like I'm watching something at the gym
I will but those are not things that I have a vr headset on for like if I'm at the gym
I am at the gym. I'm not wearing a vr headset and if I'm
If I'm watching something on my phone, it's because I'm in the bath or I'm like
otherwise Not able to be like bolted into something
So vr headsets. They just don't really they don't really have a place in my daily life other than
beat saber just exercise Unfortunately, I love vr. It's I love immersive experiences. I think it's super cool
I'm so so so ready for a replacement to the index. Actually, I gotta try the
I gotta try the big screen beyond with their audio strap. I still haven't done that. Let me know how it is
I've been meaning to also we have one of those vario or whatever
We have one of those vario headsets that I really want to try to
All right, what do you think we're gonna are we gonna get uh
Docp or xmp or whatever where the heck do you even
Where do you even control that stuff here over clock mode bus speed auto manual? Oh, here we go xmp settings boom 3200
Think it's gonna work Uh, I think it's gonna work. Okay. I believe
We're going straight to 3200 no problems. I mean realistically it
does come down to board layout and trace design to an extent but it also
Comes out comes down in a big way to the integrated memory controller on your CPU and as far as I can tell
AMD doesn't just you know put their
The crappiest possible memory controllers on their entry-level chips
All right, do we have steam on it steam should be installed. Okay, here we go
Do we have a mouse pad by any chance because as much as I love the mod mat
It is not a mouse pad. I mean I have a big one I don't have although this is convenient
If we'd used a mod mat as our mouse pad back in the day when we forgot to remove those feet off of that mouse
In a ShortCircuit and we would have found them because I just moved it once and it removed the feet covers
from the set mess by mouse That's a feature
All right was I do not have an internet connection. So we're gonna have to sort that out
Oh, are they not what happened to the cable? Oh, no, I got it. I got it. I got it
It was so managed by our magnetic cable management that I couldn't see it
Let's go I can't believe that this computer booted up. I expected it to be whammy'd
We downloaded those two games on the z drive. Can I help you guys?
Oh I'll let I'll let you do it. I'm gonna come over here and I'm gonna be Dan
I'm gonna be producer Dan and do a merge message Hey lexus
I'm starting a new. Oh, wait. Is his mic on Dan is your mic on
Am I in two mics?
Oh And he's not going to fix it for me. Wow, what a guy
Yeah, maybe the other way around Nice
Hi lexus, I'm starting a new watercool build Do you think it's possible to flood the loop with an inert gas that is denser than air?
Before I fill the loop so that I can avoid bacterial buildup
Hi mason b You are overthinking it
You just need to put a little bit of biocide in your loop once you fill it and that is going to take
Get you right sorted out. It's not going to affect performance and as cool as it is to like
Put inert gas in your loop or whatever
Yeah, you you really really Really really don't need to do that
I mean if you do make a video about it like that sounds fire, but uh, yeah, you don't have to
Matthew M says I was considering using magnetic cable management power brick holders to mount some external hard drives under my desk
But given the powerful magnets, I was kind of curious good idea or bad idea
You would actually be very surprised
Oh Metal maxine and Floatplane chat says argon cool pc. Okay. I have actually wanted for quite some time to
See what happens if you cool the pc
With some other gas like like a denser gas. Can you like carry the heat away from a heat sink faster?
Like I don't know. I don't know. It's it's something I've wanted to experiment with for a long time
Someday someday we'll do it but but not yet. Um, well, what was I talking about again? Uh, oh, I think I lost it
Right You would be very surprised how powerful of a magnet
You need to have any kind of impact on a hard drive
Like I mean even hard drive manufacturers are having a hard time
Controlling flipping the bits and they have to use like heat assisted
Recording in some of the highest end drives now and some of their most dense drives
Um, tyinen actually did a really good short on the LTT channel where he showed that unless you get into absolutely
ridiculous territory A magnet is not going to do anything to your hard drive. So I would say you definitely can
But I would question the need to do that because if you're if your drive is sort of
Permanently enough there that you need to like cable manage it into your setup
Maybe it would be better to just install it as an internal drive. There is a performance advantage to doing that over usb
Look at yeah, tyinen says it'll stop the motor if it's too close. Yes, but if it's in an external hard drive enclosure
It shouldn't he doesn't recommend mounting hard drives with mcm. Okay, there you go tyinen has spoken in chat, but I
Sincerely doubt I sincerely doubt that in an external enclosure you would manage to get it close enough to cause a problem
but Take that for what it is. He says don't do it. So
We don't recommend it officially There you go. What else we got
Archive
Wait, no way All right, timothy m says do you ever miss the old days in the garage and staying in my basement?
timmy Okay, that's less weird than it sounds if you have the full context
Because there was a year that we went down to I think it was packs and we did stay in
timmy's basement It was it was voluntary like we were not held there against our will
But but we did in fact we did in fact stay in timmy's basement
It saved us. Uh, it saved us a hotel cost
Which was good and we got to hang out with timmy tech tv, which was also good
And yeah, I actually had our our christmas dinner our first ever annual christmas dinner for smash champs last night
And between the full timers and part timers. I think we're up to about
17 people 15 of which attended the christmas dinner
And it was it was pretty it was pretty fun. It was it was different LMG has gotten
bigger in all the ways that are good And in all the ways that are not as good, um, you know, we have to be
It's it's it's a more corporate vibe things are a little more controlled. They're a little more structured
They're not really off the cuff anymore And there's definitely really good things about that from like, uh, you know liability and insurance and and you know
hr Streamlining and you know all these things perspective
But there are things that are more fun about working with a really small team
And it was it was fun. It was it was fun kind of hanging out with smash champs team
Even though I I only really know a handful of them
Like some of them are pretty some of them are really new like everyone's pretty new
I mean it only soft opened a few months ago But some of them are especially new like some have been kind of working behind the scenes in the lead up to the launch
So I've and and I knew them before hiring them. So so those folks it's uh, it's a little more natural
Just like hanging out with but uh, yeah, everyone else is pretty cool, too
Archive man, these are these are coming in pretty fast here getting the merch mess. Are you you guys doing okay over there?
Yeah, ragnarok's just having a little bit of an issue booting. We're getting an error code that we're just trying to resolve right now
okay, but
Wow, uh, it oh man at that point
Would it be faster to go get a higher speed nick and install it and then copy it?
I think it might Oh, yeah, okay. Yes team drive and
I don't know where it is. No one knows where this team drive is. Oh good. Hey
Professional tech media company. Don't worry. We've got this. Uh, what was I gonna say?
Oh, yeah, do we have resizable bar installed while he's going and doing that Do you want to make sure rebar is enabled in the BIOS?
It should be by default on a modern board like that, but we should double check because arc will not
perform its best without resizable bar
All right, what else we got here Brandon s says I'm sure you couldn't make a whole episode about it
But if you could take an excuse to look at wheelchairs and hearing aid tech someday
It'd be validating to see someone talk about how old the tech is
Yeah, the fact that the fact that it's been so obvious
for so long that apple was gunning for
hearing the hearing aid market the
The accessibility market and the incumbents have as far as I can tell effectively done
Nothing to prevent them from coming in and completely disrupting their industry is
Flipping wild to me. It shows how something can be as mainstream as apple
And you can still have an entire industry being like
Dump the dump the dome nothing is going to happen
We can just keep charging in sane amounts of money for ancient technology. Everything should be fine. I guess
Absolutely wild to me As for wheelchairs, I got to be honest with you
I don't know enough about it But I do know that that's something that jerry rig everything talks about a fair bit and has done some really cool stuff in the space
That's realistically the most that I know about it. The only reason I know anything about hearing aids
It's just because I have a family member who is uh, who's hard of hearing and who worked in a school for the deaf
So I know a little bit of sign language. I know a little bit about
um, I know a little bit about the culture, but
I'm always hesitant to I know enough about these communities to know that coming in as an outsider and talking about it is
Not necessarily something that I should be doing and while some people might be chill with it and appreciate the spotlight
Others would really prefer that I yield that spotlight to
you know, um members of that community, so
It's a It's a tricky it's a tricky thing and I we have looked at some for example
Accessible controllers and stuff in the past, but it's not something that I like to
Dive into too much
Um Pugboy says air pods don't compete with the concealed style of modern hearing aids though and that's fair enough
But with the number of people that I see just walking around wearing air pods
I'd say having air pods in your ears is as stealthy as just about anything
like I don't know. I don't know just saying
just saying But I can totally understand that everyone has very different feelings and you know what works for them works for them and
My perspective on this is obviously limited at best
Thank you. All right archive that
Anonymous asks I was looking at those little 3d printed CPU clam shells that you guys use. Where do you get them?
I thought they looked 3d printed. If so, have you released the stl stl file or do you plan on releasing the stl file?
We absolutely plan to release the stl files for all the cool little things that we have created internally to make our lives a
Little bit easier It has taken some time for us to get that off the ground for reasons that I'm sure make sense to the people who are working on it
But I do not fully understand It's been a little frustrating to me that it has taken so long for us to release this stuff
But I have been assured that in the next
Weeks not months. We're going to have our repository up with some of the cool little stuff that we have like we have for example
for our magnetic cable management
Power power bar key holder one we have we have one that takes one of those on one side and then hold a screwdriver on the other side
We've got Uh, man, I don't know. We have so much stuff. We have like little stacking things that hold screwdrivers
I think we've got we've got a ton of stuff including those those little CPU holders
And we want to put it all in a repository for people to use
Hi there says yi chuan I just found out my black friday package got processed in germany yesterday, but i'm in china
How much chance I will have it before chinese new year?
I'm going to be honest with you yi chuan
I have no idea I cannot imagine
Why it would have been more practical for them to go all the way across north america
All the way across the atlantic ocean and then
Well into europe to route to china anyone in chat like is that is that a thing?
Versus just going over the pacific like
My best guess is that it just has to do with like capacity
And you know how much capacity there is on the cargo planes and and that's how they're picking
That's how they're picking the route versus, you know, the shortest possible distance
drakis says that germany is the major shipping hub and i'm like, okay
Like that's cool
But yeah, annan max store says my package is headed to peru and is also in germany
Okay Sure, I have never been in china and ordered something from north america before
so Shut up
dig tf says i've ordered on LTT Store before
I live in new zealand And that goes through germany as well. And that's just what because dhl is german
Too far gone says they live in new zealand theirs didn't so it seems to just come down to
Whatever makes the most sense
To them with their logic All right, good job everybody
Cool same for india apparently says joshua. All right, cool
Wolf west says i think it's due to dhl doing that to save money i
Someday someday i will work in the shipping and logistics industry and i will learn how that helps save money
Shipping things halfway around the world before sending them back the other halfway around the world in the other direction
but Now i do i have not done that and i do not know so i have no insight to share with you
How's that going over there good?
But we could play the other games if you want let's do that
Let's do it. Let's play you suck at parking Linus. All right
I assume this is a controller game. Do we have any controllers handy trick question?
David has a whole wall of controllers over there. So why don't we um, yes, sir grabbing one really quick
Thank you so much appreciate you
So i just hit the mute button again. I didn't oh good
Uh metal maxine says Dan has an international logistics degree. I think is that true Dan?
Yeah Okay, can you explain why everything routes through germany instead of going like maybe on a direct path?
Uh, let me just mute this mic probably because of like the standard distribution hubs, right?
If i am always sending planes to one place
Just go to that one place instead of going somewhere else right if there's no direct connection
Yeah, it's kind of frustrating. You think from like west coast north america to china
Like it's china. You think that you'd have the hub there. Why wouldn't you? I mean like most fedex
I believe goes through is it is it memphis? Like every single fedex plane goes to their hub. They do all their maintenance everything like that
Okay, okay plane maintenance. Sure. I don't remember where ups is. Is that detroit?
I feel like this is the kind of thing that like ai would actually be perfect for helping with
I mean they're probably using it already. I I just mean if you were to if you were to have
You know more hubs, yeah, then you could kind of help to solve for
You know, what's the most efficient way to have it go do some stuff and then end up back at the main depot for maintenance or whatever
I don't know, but sure there you have it. It's more cost effective apparently to just have your main hubs
and then have everybody you know who is an expert at doing whatever the crap it is that they're doing there and
Sure, okay. Oh cool. Hey, we've got the nixie npo one
Let's go press right trigger to accelerate. Let's play some you suck at parking
I am I am stoked stoked to try this. Oh, uh
I'm also stoked on the fact that I'm getting a casual
380 frames per second on my 500 gaming pc now obviously
This is not the world's heaviest game by any stretch of the imagination
I've also set the monitor to 240 and I think it's is it 4k, but we're running at 4k
Let's go
I've already started installing it. Oh, okay. All right grass and snow are on
Let's go. Do you want to get a close-up of my 370 FPS? I did that people don't believe me
Let's go get a closer close up closer close up
380 $500 gaming pc
Sick. All right Right trigger to accelerate
Okay Oh, okay
Left trigger to break stopping is parking. There is no reverse
Are you kidding me? Okay, so I just need to like nail this
boom Now park on all spots
Oh
Oh, oh you already parked here find a different way. I know I can steer
Whoa, let's go
Okay, did that count I think that counted
Oh, this is fun. Dude the driving physics in this game are so fun
Oh, you can't reverse Right that makes sense
Dude, it's just drift central. I love it
How have I never heard of this
I don't play cs Oh, no. Oh, keep practicing. Oh, yeah. Okay skip tutorial. Let's go
Welcome to your second parking. Have fun parkster. Oh, I don't think I'm going to be playing online
What's campaign inferno Drive around find landmarks to play levels or in parking spots to unlock new islands. Okay
Oh my god, you can go off the edge that that makes sense. That seems like the kind of thing at elder hut. Okay
Let it sizzle Carbacue
Well, this is fun Juani says this game looks so fun. Hey, did I mention that we got it from our sponsor for today's video green man gaming?
Do I have any more talking points for them or anything Elijah?
They just have a sick sick sale, you know, you got a sale. Oh no. Oh my god. I'm on fire
My car is on fire. What what happens?
I die. I mean, yeah, kind of checks out. Um logically speaking
Okay, I think I follow
Okay, that counted apparently. Okay, boom
Dude, this is so fun. I kind of love it
Okay, so this time I do not take the first. Oh, no. Oh, oh, oh jeez
Okay
Dude, please tell me they have like competitive modes and stuff. Oh
Oh my god. No, not that I should be competing in them
Oh, what do you mean? This is just like you're driving IRL, right? I think I am better at parking than this in real life
Okay, I just need to take this wide. Yeah, there we go. Oh, let's go. Oh my god this jump. Okay, sure. Oh, it's got the
And a casual 390 frames per second right now. Oh
Well, that doesn't work very well And we're in motion
Oh, yeah, that was that was not a fair comparison though
He was in the middle of nowhere Dude, this is fun. Oh, come on. Okay
It's sort of fun It's the kind of like
frustrating fun that uh, you know, some people are into
masochists Dan probably
Okay, we're just gonna take it a little slower here. We're gonna get we're gonna take it a little slower. What?
Yes, okay, I got the second one and then yeah, there's a third one still. Okay, I can do this
I can do this
Wait, I only have 15 seconds. I didn't even realize that each attempt was time. Wait, I'm down to
Oh, no, you have a fixed amount of time total to do all of them. I only have six seconds left. I can't make it
I can't make it Dan No
Last car last car. Oh my god. I can still make it. I just have to be perfect in every oh my god
What out of fuel? What do you mean out of fuel?
Either way Hold on how quiet is this machine?
Andy stock cooler pretty quiet
Oh good timing for a train pretty loud. Yeah
Dude this thing's quiet. I love this computer
Do we have uh, do we have hardware info on here?
Uh Maybe okay, uh, if we don't I'm gonna get it real quick. So then when we play our next game
Yeah, see how uh ragnarok's doing as well. Hopefully okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah should be about 10 minutes or something. Uh
It's that 3% did you guys configure it to allow transfers to continue while gaming?
Probably not. I think we have like that by default Okay
It might be on this drive as well. Oh, okay. So you can just add this drive as a uh game drive really quick. Okay. Well, I'm allowing
Okay, let's have a look common Got a war ragnarok. Let's go
Storage add drive boom
Here we go It's gonna be great
Now we're gaming boys
Oh, we might have we might have bunged it We might have bunged it. Uh, you're good. Did you add it as a destination?
Hold on. Hold on Hold on. I'm going to un I'm gonna unbind that one
Game drive d Uh remove library. Yes
Okay, then I'm going to manage and uninstall god of war ragnarok
That I've I've run into this before where you're like downloading it to one of your game libraries
And then you like plug in one that has it and then you go to launch it and it's like
Has no idea what to do. You don't you don't want it. It's a bad time
All right, let's throw the other game drive back on there. Boom
And god of war ragnarok is ready to go. Okay before we do that though
Let's go ahead and grab our portable copy of hardware info
Which is a super super awesome hardware monitoring program
And I want to see what kind of temps we're getting on our CPU and GPU in spite of the fact that we have
Functionally no case airflow Which is that the one rear fan
Which in fairness is all we can really expect for a 35 dollar case, but
Um, it's not necessarily ideal for having your hardware running as nicely as possible
All right CPU, which one do we want?
Sure, we'll take um t die
Okay, so we've got a little graph for our CPU now. Let's go grab a little graph for our GPU
GPU core temperature GPU global oh the current maximum temperature. Okay, so that'll be our hot spot probably
Okay, let's grab our hot spot and our core temp for the GPU
Oh shoot. I always I always
Do that Oh, of course, it's a web search because why wouldn't it be a web search? Thanks microsoft
I always do that I uh specifically removed the ability to do that on your wan laptops
Easy what sorry what ability did you remove from my wan laptop?
They'd be able to the ability to web search from the start menu
Oh, really? Yeah, this computer and the other one too. Yeah, I hate it
We should do uh We should do just like a like a Windows modding guide. Oh, yeah, just Windows Windows. Yeah
Like it'd be probably a great little Floatplane exclusive. No, no, I think that could be a mainline video
Elijah do you mind do you mind adding that to the next writer's meeting? We'll do just like little tweaks like that. You do like 10 Windows tips to make Windows better
um, there's some there's some really good stuff like better indexing for um
Uh for network folder shares and stuff like that. So you don't have to wait around forever. I will add it to the writer's meeting
Yeah, handful handful of stuff like that would be really cool. Okay
Okay, god of war ragnarok. Let's go. Oh, I guess I'll be using my controller again probably
Casual Yeah, I'm not gonna you're not gonna play god of war with the mouse keyboard. I know
cheese Casual this guy
Oh, what's updating Oh, okay, come on read this. Okay. Do you want to hit me with the merge message in the meantime then? Yeah, sure
I think I've got one left here. Sure Linus
Could you showcase the commuter backpack and would it come with the big locking carabiner like the LTT backpack?
Loved it, but sadly lost it
Oh, you lost your original Oh, dude, it's so big. How'd you lose it? No, just kidding. I'm just making fun of our gigantic backpack
Um, yeah, sure. I can show you guys the commuter bag if you really want we do have a commercial we just did and I believe
Oh, no, I think they just did the photography the product photography for the product page. So I guess that yeah, it's probably
Not up there yet Hmm
Oh, seriously Wow, thanks so much. Wow, there's so many people watching the stream today. How you guys doing youtube chat. I never talked to you guys
Kato-san says I play god of war ragnarok using mouse and keyboard. Ha ha ha. See this is why I don't talk to you guys
because your psychos God of war with a keyboard and mouse
I mean, I've never played god of war. So for all I know it's a perfectly valid option. I'm just bugging you
Hmm connor suggests if you do a d-Windows Windows, you should do it in sections. This is safe
beginner friendly And then like increasing levels of kind of dangerous like before you get into kind of any sort of like registry editing
Yeah, exactly. I think removing the web searches registry registry. Yeah
man, but the thing is like if you I think there's scripts for it though. Yeah. Oh scripts are scarier
I think running a script that edits your registry is way less safe
than Changing a couple of values, especially because the values often have names
that somewhat Seen kind of intuitive to what they do like if you're running a script that changes your registry
I'd be pretty I'd be pretty skizzed out by that
Don't I continue through the setup of god of war or the backpack you were on the backpack for the commuter
I can get through the setup if you want, right? um
Yeah, sure. Do you want to do want to do the setup just to see if I can kind of run you guys through it
It's obviously not as big. Oh look, Elijah's backpack is here. That's convenient
Elijah, I'm going to borrow your backpack just for size reference. I'm not going to dig through it. Yeah
Okay, so there's the size comparison
But what's really cool about the commuter bag is that it's not as
Smaller or as it seems in terms of carrying capacity because the original bag has an internal water bottle holder
And the commuter bag has an external water bottle holder
so You do you do definitely have less carrying capacity and one of the biggest differences
is here In the like device carry. Oh, okay. Well, I can't open it
But the point is that the original backpack has enough room to like
Stuff a steam deck at the bottom on top of your laptop and your tablet and then like another screen safe pocket there
This is really designed for laptop tablet
And that's about it if you want. Oh, hey look Dan's got his there you go
So there's the original which you could put like truly ridiculous
Class of hardware in and still have room for like your your chargers and whatever else you need
And then yeah, like I said, it's got the two screen safe pockets
Instead of just the one in the commuter and then this thick boy pocket that has screen safe material at the bottom
For like an ally or steam deck or a claw or something like that
so a little bit less device capacity, but
The pouch of holding does make a triumphant return
So you can just like stash your tech sack down in the bottom here. You've got a bunch of organizing pockets including some that are
Magnetic, let's go or have zippers or like other means of kind of holding stuff in place
um Little kind of pocket down here our air tag pocket makes a return
um It doesn't have the front organizing pouch either though, which I really like for quick access, but it's a smaller bag
What do you want? I think it's 25 rather than 35 liters or something like that
Does anyone know does anyone remember off the top of their head? It'll be on the product page. Don't quote me on that
um, but All of that is while still being very tech forward while still having extremely robust build quality
So we've got our dual grommets on the carrying straps. So that's not going to come off. It's not going to wear out
we've got um a reinforced stitch
As well as a grommet on the bottom here because I hate it when stuff like that wears out
Especially because it costs so little to reinforce it
We've got the same style of straps that have been extremely popular on the original bag with sort of the the bridge here
But we have the new contoured Shoulder straps that help make it a little bit more friendly to people with different widths of frames
That's a piece of feedback that we've gotten a lot on the original backpack is for more petite people
It can be quite big and quite quite quite wide and it doesn't really
Doesn't really come in and like like sit properly on their body. So these new contoured ones seem to be very
Widely compatible with humans. I think that's about all I have to say about that since this game is apparently ready for us to play
We are currently on 4k medium, but you could adjust if you would like. Yeah, I think we're not going to go 4k. Okay, let's go
Let's go
Uh, wait, seriously, is this not going to let me?
Oh, yeah, sure. Sorry, Andy. Watch your cable. Is it how do I uh, seriously? I don't want to
You're good Why why is modern gaming like this?
Do I just have to set the render scale? Uh, you might have to change the full screen. So no, it's that doesn't work. Oh, I missed. Okay
So if I go windowed Then I'm just stuck with windowed. There's no full screen windowed
Let's see if chat has the solution here. Like is it just uh, is it just a scaling thing like render scale?
No, this is just taa
Yeah, I might have to adjust it in Windows Seriously, it might be going based off your window settings. Oh, that is so stupid
Ridiculous people are like change desktop resolution. That is
That is ridiculous. Um Okay, well, give me a minute. There's a couple other things that I want to have a look at. Okay. We're on xcss
Taa quality. Let's go, uh
Let's go quality Oh, well that changes our resolution
Sure. Okay. Our render resolution is a little
Oh false Our render resolution is a little above 1080p and then we're going to be using xcss to upscale it
That's about what I had wanted to do anyway So there we go
Cool Okay, anything with dead zones. Can I get rid of dead zones? Oh, that wouldn't be in here anyway
Uh, okay Controller view controls. Can I
No, that's it. Maybe it's in gameplay
I hate dead zones And I can't adjust them. Okay, great. Oh, whatever. I'm over it. Oh my god. We're compiling shaders
Uh, what do you guys have running on here for FPS monitoring? Is that frame view or is that just the built-in steam one?
That's built in steam one Did we did we not get frame view? No, because we had the built-in steam one. Okay, uh, the built-in steam one sucks
We should use frame view
Oh Is it dead zone the new like MOBA shooter?
Uh No deadlock
But very close Mr. David, can I help you? Are you
I'm just hanging out on private. Oh, okay. We're seven minutes over. Oh, okay
Just hurry it up. Okay. David's just standing here waiting to shoot in the video. I lucky
Oh, yeah, lucky's over there. I actually am curious how this thing could do that work
Dude, this thing is killer
Well, yeah, but can it whatever yeah, whatever got him
Okay, there we go frame view infinite and then guys, I never used the steam one
How do you turn it off because I don't care about it and I don't want it
And uh, Elijah enabled resizable bar. Okay, good
Got it. I found it. Okay. Okay. All right. Now we have a proper FPS counter
Whoa, that's new
Oh, did it stop Cool. So our average FPS is sitting somewhere in the neighborhood of around 70 with our 1% lows hovering between
High 40s and low 50s, occasionally dipping way down to about 30
It looks really good. We're above 1080p, right? We're like I want to uh, I want to skip this. Can I skip this? No
It's very short. Okay I love I love modern gaming and insert modern year
Dan, do you have any merch messages? I've got one more. All right, hit me Will it be better to wait for the 50 series in videographics cards or should I go for a 4080 super currently?
Just curious given the tariff situation That is a very good question and the answer is that I cannot answer that for you
It seems like a lot of the tariff conversations could be just saber rattling
But you never know you never know what's going to happen when a new administration takes over in the u.s
And they are going to be dictating a lot of the terms for you know
What the what the trading situation is going to look like into 2025 and beyond so
Good luck everybody
We kind of laid out everything that we had to say about it and that should you buy a pc now video that we did a
Little while ago, so if you haven't watched that go ahead and watch it if you have watched it and you're looking for more
Information unfortunately, I don't have any. I don't have a functioning crystal ball
Sorry guys
All right, how are we doing here? All right, david assured me it's short. So if it's not short then you know who to blame blame david
Thankfully, he's not mic'd
This is a short joke
I am seeing a little bit of stutter here and there
But I don't know how much of that is because we're compiling shaders in the background
So unfortunately, we're probably going to have to stall for time while this finishes compiling shaders
And then we can get a fair impression of how the game is running
So in the meantime, uh Dan if you have any more merge messages coming in let me know otherwise
Hey, maybe I'll do something really weird and I'll hang out with youtube chat for a change
I know right they are Dude, they are like unhinged every time I dive into youtube chat. I'm like, why do I do this again?
What about twitch chat? Maybe they have something to say. Uh, absolutely not. No
Twitch chat's the worst. What do you mean twitch? That's the worst. They know they're the worst
Yeah, rob gator says Linus actually has no functioning balls
Uh, I don't know. That's functional. Like that's like that's a no, no, they don't function. Yeah, I was gonna say that's an accurate
Twitch comment. No the uh, no the balls function
It's the it's the tube that connects them that doesn't function. Yeah, so the yeah, no if anything the balls function too good
That's why I had to nerf them That's a crazy statement. Otherwise I would get too many more kids
So what did you call your wife on Ludwig's podcast? I called her excellent breeding stock
That's a to this day a crazy sentence. What I mean it as a compliment. It's a compliment
Look, it was on a different it was on a different podcast, okay It was on a different podcast where what happens at wancho stays it. Yeah, that's that wasn't wancho
That was the yard. Oh, that's totally fine. Yeah. Um, there's a different show at the yard. Look, she was there
She I wouldn't say I wouldn't say anything about my wife that I wouldn't say in front of her
I'm just I'm just saying that like For us to not have more kids steps needed to be taken
We needed to take steps. Let's just go back to youtube chat. Yeah, let's go
Okay, how's youtube chat doing? We've left uh, we've left uh, uh, twitch chat now, which is good
aw Extra cheese says hey, I just picked up a 7600 x 3d bundlet microcenter for my first build. What GPU should I grab?
I mean, oh, that's a tough one See like the best value gaming GPU on the market right now is the arc b580 the one that we're featuring in our $500 build
But you bought a 7600 x 3d. You aren't building a $500 computer
So I would say at the price that you're looking at I would probably start to look more into some of AMD's
More value options and I'm trying to remember
What are the what are the currently available ones? I find AMD's lineup to be
really Confusing like what they what they have available at any given time like something like 6700 class
Yeah, it looks like those are still those are still readily available. It's like over $500. It's a good GPU though 12 gigs vram
Um, I'd say that's probably a good place to start. I see some people recommending 7900 gre, but that's they got a
You know, it's balanced, right? Like They bought a 7600 x 3d
Right, they don't oh the gre is well the gre is cheaper than oh, it's not a stock though. Yeah, okay, so
If you could get one the gre sure is a great deal
But I don't see a single unit in stock does microcenter have them
Man when did 70 when did 7900 gre get so cheap for kratos
sometimes AMD does this though where they like have a card or they have a variant of something that
theoretically exists but in practice they just like
Bring it out. They make a few of them kind of disrupt the market Kind of like trash the value perception of the rest of their cards and then it functionally doesn't exist
And you're just like, okay Good job AMD because now nobody knows
What to recommend to anybody? um
Yeah on microcenter. There's one from xfx
And it says x available in store only
and is out of stock in
Literally every location and that's the only 7900 gre they have so it's like yeah, it's good recommendation, but functionally
Doesn't exist so okay
Like that's uh, I remember having a conversation about this on wancho a while back someone was like, why do you never recommend AMD
Something was it like the fury fury cards or vega or something? I was like because they are not real
Because AMD announced these cards made like 25 of them and then was like
Derp de der
And then they'll like do a price drop or whatever like promo them away and then
Effectively nobody's actually making anymore and I even I even brought it up on stream. I was like here look
Here's all of the like this card available on new egg. You've got like this one brand
And you go to like add them to cart and if you add any more than two
It's like no, sorry. You can't buy any more than that. It's out of stock and it's like yeah
This is not even a real product So AMD's GPU division has done that like a number of times over the last five six years where they have these
products That nobody's actually building boards for AMD doesn't seem to be actually shipping any GPU's they just exist
as sort of like price disruptors
For what? AMD's own lineup like i'm not saying price disruptors are bad. They're good
But they have to actually be available. So that's one of the things that i've talked to Intel about with arc b580s
Like hey, you need to talk to the partners You need to be like look guys, okay
259 99 269 99 for like, you know, if you've got a nice big cool or a really nice design or something like that, okay, but
Don't let this get out of control Don't let them
Be like oh, well finally an opportunity to make money on arc. Well, let's make another 20 bucks
A short-term thinking you've got to buy some market share right now work with the partners
Make sure you guys are getting these cards in the hands of gamers building up the brand
Building up the install base giving the driver team something to actually
a reason to work on Improving their drivers so you have more than you know dozens of people out there enjoying arc graphics like
Get the team motivated. You guys all got to be pulling together. There'll be time to make money make money later
Now is not the time Um, so i'm i'm hoping i'm hoping that that makes its way to the top that that makes its way to the add-in board partners
I can't guarantee it, but I can hope
Shoot i just do it again I don't know what it is, but i'm gonna put this on the other side because i'm
No, no, no, i'm just i'm gonna put it on the other side so that i don't do that anymore
Okay, there we go now. I can now I can lean against my table. I can get comfortable here
All right shaders are almost compiled. We're at 89
And this boy is still running pretty good
Definitely a little bit of pop in there
Definitely some dips and one percent lows
Definitely a wolf But it's a very demanding game though
I was gonna say this price is actually cheaper than like a ps5 and a ps5 pro, right? So like no
500 dollars. Well, no, sorry the the discless version. I guess no the the ps5 was on promo this black friday for like
Oh, wasn't it? Oh, I missed that then. Oh, that's my bad
Yeah, i'm trying to think I think that was that like 350 bucks or something like that. There were some
380 oh, okay ps5 slims were going for as low as 380 for black friday
So a playstation is still an outstanding value from a hardware standpoint
But the difference is that you're locked into their game store. So you're not going to be able to use
Our sponsor green man gaming to get tons of great deals on games
You're going to be stuck paying with with a console. You're going to be stuck paying subscription fees potentially
You're going to be stuck with a higher potential cost to repair it if anything happens down the line
Whereas with a pc that's modular like this something goes wrong. You just
Fart a new one into it and you're good to go. So there are
Like anything there are pros and cons both ways people who game on playstation are not idiots
They just take that set of trade-offs that they prefer and people who game on pc are not big dumb idiots
They're just people who prefer that set of trade-offs
So no a playstation 5 is absolutely still a very compelling value from a hardware standpoint. It's just that what we are now
Is very comfortably Within the price bracket where we're within the price range
Instead of having awkward conversations that go hey Linus. I bought a 7600 x3d at micro center
What GPU would you recommend and literally the only like step up class of GPU that I find is going to cost you 600 freaking dollars
Just for the GPU before you've even got a case CPU RAM power supply cooler anything else, right?
And that's what I am super excited about. That's why we did the stream
We only planned this stream when I sat down and did script review
um No, I think it was even after script review. I think it was
When we uploaded the video I watched it back. I started reading some of the comments from people and I was like holy crap
We can we could oh no It must have been script review because it was in script review that I was like
Hey, we should talk about how you can kind of build a $500 gaming pc again
Okay, it must have been then but we only planned this like last minute to do a stream building a $500 gaming pc because
I was like Oh my goodness. This is it. This is the key. This is what unlocks it
So this was just because I was excited to finally be able to show you guys
With a straight face a great value gaming machine with all new parts for around 500 bucks
It's 540 for those of you tuning in now $540 we did cheat a little bit
But there are areas where you could save yourself 40 bucks instead of buying a brand new case
You could just go find one at a local recycler
ATX standard hasn't changed in years decades literally decades
So you could throw this hardware in some random case pull the side panel off
You know get out a pair of pliers You've been things out of the way if you got to stick your GPU in there
You could save some money there You could probably save some money on the motherboard if you're willing to go for like a weird
like, you know tau Taobao brand or something like that
I think you could probably save a buck on the power supply if you're willing to go with like a thermal take smart
You could even get this under 500 bucks But 540 was what we were comfortable with with all brand new parts from brands that we know are going to actually back you up
In the event of a warranty claim or something like that Freaking incredible our shaders are 99% compiled and let's have a look at god of war rag and rock
On a $500 gaming pc we're running at 4k, but not native
We're using xcss upscaling and so the native rendering is at about
1080p So this is about what you'd get at 1080p in terms of frame rates about it's actually a little higher
All right Come on shaders Man, don't you love that don't you love that computer developers? They they have the world's most
warped definition of
The last 1% of things that I think is possible. I and I understand it's not entirely
It's not the developer's fault that can be unexpected challenges and I get it. I get it. I get it. I get it
I'm not ragging on you. You do great work. Thank you
but There we go. We are finally done compiling shaders. All right. Am I allowed to skip this?
No, it's a cinematic experience. All right, it's a cinematic experience
Well, what we can do is we can Note because there's depth of field so we can't even evaluate how sharp it looks
Now we can actually not bad
There's some messiness in the beard when it's moving
So you're you're definitely yeah as is as his face swings back and forth
If you know what you're looking for You're going to see a little bit of upscaling artifacting. I'm also seeing the odd dropped frame
But we've also talked a fair bit about how this is not a 4k card. This is it well outside of its comfort zone
Turkey submarine says I wish I knew the specs of the pc. Yeah, we can run through that
So we've got a a Ryzen 5 5600, right? Uh, or it's a 5500. Sorry. It was a 5500. 5500 Ryzen 5 5500 6 core processor
16 gigs of vdr 4 3200 megatransfer for second memory with an as rock micro atx motherboard
That's the cheapest we could find from a trusted brand We've got a Corsair cx 550 550 watt power supply
That was the minimum that lucas from the lab would allow us to use even though we could probably save some money with
Oh, it's not there anymore, but whatever with with a cheaper power supply
So the diy pc some cheap case just the cheapest thing we could find and then an Intel arc b580
And a patriot p300 SSD. Oh, yeah, that's right patriot p300 SSD as well
We went with a 512 gig because that's what fit in our budget if we wanted more storage then we've got four SATA ports
And I did confirm there is in fact a hard drive mounting point in the bottom of the case so we could add something there
And am I ever going to get to actually play the game?
Remember when david said that this opening cinematic thing was short? Yeah, I remember I remember remember when chat picked this game
Let's blame chat. Yeah way to go way to go Floatplane chat
175 gigs of just movies. That's crazy
All right, let's go come on. Yes. Yes. Yes. You need to sleep. I know it's tiring being the god of war
Whoever said they wanted firefox is the game. That's not an option. You can't you can't have that
Look, I know you all play firefox
We just wanted you here longer. Yeah, I mean mission accomplished then I suppose
All right, I'm going back to I'm going back to youtube chat. They seem more trustworthy
YouTube chat redemption arc. Wow
Maybe they just go really weird on friday nights. We're not at 2500 p upscaled to 4k toby. We're at more like
2200 which is a lot less server than it sounds like as resolution scales
The amount that you're adding is so much more or as you go bigger or
Oh, whoa, look at that. We're in game. Hey, we're in game. What's up, yo? All right, we're going this way
Can I run oh, okay
Dude not bad Not bad. You're playing like modern triple a games
Like for real on this machine
Our previous attempts at like budget gaming PCs for the last like five years have been so frustrating because either
We had to go second hand, which I know there's a there's a cohort of people out there that are just not going to consider it
Right So we either had to go second hand, which upsets those people
Or we had to seriously seriously compromise on performance like when we did our holiday buyers guide arc battle mage wasn't out yet
Our recommended pc had an apu because we were like well
Realistically at this price you can't afford a GPU anyway
So you might as well get an apu which will game at like 1080p low in triple a games or you might even be forced to go down to
720p and then you can save up for a GPU. It was like the merry christmas
Wait for your birthday pc. I think was what we called it This is the merry christmas right now today pc as long as you can get your hands on an arc v580
super exciting And I think that pretty much wraps us unless Dan you have another merge message or two
I have one final merge message for today. All right hit me from anonymous
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You weren't supposed to use it beyond the qualcomm daily driver challenge signed a robot
Uh Oh, no way No way that could actually be dbrand
I mean no one else would have any way of knowing that I wasn't supposed to continue to using it
It's not even for my laptop like Honestly, I keep using it as much to upset them as anything else
So they're they're on to me like look at this it has a cut out for a microsoft surface
This isn't a surface You know how they're all about precision fit and everything this doesn't fit at all
This is just Complete nonsense and I've added more stickers to it now. Yeah, I know it really does look awful
If you don't like it dbrand, maybe you should make better skins Ooh like the glow circuit
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Cool. Did that game close when I dropped my computer next to the pc? That was weird
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Pathetic um, all right Play me out Dan
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