WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:04.560 Everyone knows that adding latency to your gaming experience is bad, 00:00:04.560 --> 00:00:08.640 but exactly how much latency is too much latency? 00:00:08.640 --> 00:00:11.640 At what point can you legitimately blame the lag 00:00:11.640 --> 00:00:17.160 for being hard stuck at Copper 7? To find out, we've assembled a crack team 00:00:17.160 --> 00:00:20.200 of four certified gamers that range in skill level 00:00:20.200 --> 00:00:24.560 from absolute hack all the way to Godlike. 00:00:24.560 --> 00:00:28.680 And we're gonna tell you exactly how much input latency it takes 00:00:28.680 --> 00:00:34.120 to measurably affect your KD ratio. And all of this is possible thanks to ASUS 00:00:34.120 --> 00:00:37.680 who sponsored this video. We'll be using their ROG gaming peripherals, 00:00:37.680 --> 00:00:41.080 including their new 27 inch tandem OLED monitor 00:00:41.080 --> 00:00:44.920 that can switch between 720p, 720 Hertz, 00:00:44.920 --> 00:00:48.880 and 1440p, 540 Hertz using just a hotkey. 00:00:48.880 --> 00:00:52.800 And it can do all of that without relying on display stream compression. 00:00:52.800 --> 00:00:56.760 But enough ado, let's do this. 00:00:56.760 --> 00:01:00.920 Every test subject will use one of the three identical setups behind me. 00:01:00.920 --> 00:01:05.560 They use the same high performance ASUS PCs, the same low latency gaming peripherals, 00:01:05.560 --> 00:01:08.640 and the same silky smooth mousing surfaces 00:01:08.640 --> 00:01:13.280 courtesy of these desk pads from lttstore.com. The real star of the show today though 00:01:13.280 --> 00:01:19.000 is these black boxes. Inside each one of these is an Arduino Leonardo 00:01:19.000 --> 00:01:23.680 that connects to this USB hub. This setup allows us to add latency 00:01:23.680 --> 00:01:27.760 in one millisecond increments from zero to 100 milliseconds, 00:01:27.760 --> 00:01:31.640 which I remind you is one tenth of a second. 00:01:31.640 --> 00:01:34.760 That would be terrible, or would it? 00:01:35.720 --> 00:01:42.480 Each participant will complete three sets of tests while David here secretly changes their latency in between 00:01:42.480 --> 00:01:45.640 and then benchmarks their gaming performance using AMELabs. 00:01:45.640 --> 00:01:48.640 It's important to note that we tested our base system latency 00:01:48.640 --> 00:01:53.440 at about 12 and a quarter milliseconds, which we will be adding to whatever we have on our box, 00:01:53.440 --> 00:01:57.680 which will give us our theoretical click to photon latency. 00:01:57.680 --> 00:02:01.160 We did consider adding latency to different parts in the chain, 00:02:01.160 --> 00:02:04.920 but in our preliminary testing, we found that it didn't have a major impact, 00:02:04.920 --> 00:02:08.400 and so we decided to keep it in one spot to keep it simple and consistent. 00:02:08.400 --> 00:02:12.040 But enough with the boring facts. Let's game. 00:02:12.040 --> 00:02:15.800 I'm a 30 year old unk at this point. 00:02:15.800 --> 00:02:18.040 I go buy a baby no money. 00:02:20.600 --> 00:02:25.600 And I make music and I play video games occasionally jelk. 00:02:26.040 --> 00:02:29.840 My gaming ability out of 10, I used to be pretty good, 00:02:29.840 --> 00:02:33.240 but now I'm garbage because all these 12 year old kids 00:02:33.240 --> 00:02:37.840 are just insane. I don't really play much like competitive gaming anymore 00:02:37.840 --> 00:02:41.080 because it's just unhealthy. Ready? Lock in bro. 00:02:42.920 --> 00:02:48.080 Baby no accuracy. I mean 45, come on now. Did I have any, latency or no? 00:02:48.080 --> 00:02:52.240 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. That's part of your best in the variable. 00:02:52.240 --> 00:02:57.320 Whoa, man. Oh my God, I'm sweating. Literally dripping in sweat. 00:02:57.320 --> 00:03:02.000 Brother, he hit 50K. High score. Wait, hold on, wait, you're actually tall. 00:03:02.000 --> 00:03:05.600 Wait, wait, yo, crazy. All right, this next one's gonna be a dude. 00:03:05.600 --> 00:03:08.920 Oh, this one, this next one, wrap the whole thing up. 00:03:08.920 --> 00:03:12.600 This is straight order. It looks so easy when you watch someone else do it. 00:03:12.600 --> 00:03:18.080 You're just like, bro, just point at the thing. Oh, we've reached new depths. 00:03:18.080 --> 00:03:22.120 Wow, bro. New lows. It's got some tips. No, there's tips for you. 00:03:22.120 --> 00:03:25.200 There's tips. There's tips. Keep it up. 00:03:25.200 --> 00:03:28.600 Okay. Yeah. And there's another tip on the bottom saying, 00:03:28.600 --> 00:03:30.720 like, yeah, we're getting weird latency issues. 00:03:32.720 --> 00:03:36.800 That was better. Hey, look at the, it's suggesting you become a pro. 00:03:36.800 --> 00:03:42.000 Just the arms hurting now. Oh, it's getting real now. 00:03:42.000 --> 00:03:45.600 All right, what if I, what if I walk in like this? 00:03:45.600 --> 00:03:49.120 Closer to the strain, less input the light closer. Yeah, yeah. 00:03:50.320 --> 00:03:55.400 Oh, locked in position. I really don't think this is going to help. 00:03:55.400 --> 00:03:58.680 Oh, wait, more. Definitely had latency there too. 00:03:58.680 --> 00:04:01.920 Okay. Okay, pro perspective though. Is this actually useful? 00:04:01.920 --> 00:04:06.920 This is useful, maybe 20% of the time, in my opinion. 00:04:08.440 --> 00:04:13.440 One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, 00:04:13.760 --> 00:04:17.840 nine, 10, 11. Oh, wait, the counting is going to fail. 00:04:17.840 --> 00:04:22.920 Wait, wait, wait. Wait, hold on. Crazy, crazy. Overflicks, underflicks, perfect flicks. 00:04:22.920 --> 00:04:27.040 I just want to be an okay flick. There's too many unders. Yeah, there's a lot of under. 00:04:27.040 --> 00:04:31.120 What does that mean? That means you're shooting lower. You're tracking it, but you're shooting it 00:04:31.120 --> 00:04:34.800 basically way too behind it. Yeah, good job, good job. All right. 00:04:34.800 --> 00:04:38.120 Solid, solid, solid, solid. Solid, solid. That's solid. 00:04:49.000 --> 00:04:53.760 My name is Leon Kim. Also known as Kanata. I'm a professional Fortnite player for Dignitas. 00:04:53.760 --> 00:04:57.640 I think I'm really good at gaming and like I can go 00:04:57.640 --> 00:05:00.720 like basically go to any game and be good at it. 00:05:00.720 --> 00:05:03.160 I think I'm like 8.5 out of 10. 00:05:08.920 --> 00:05:14.840 I think you're underselling yourself. Okay. Whenever you are ready, go for it. 00:05:14.840 --> 00:05:18.040 I bet, I'm starting. Always going for a big score. 00:05:18.040 --> 00:05:22.520 This one's lucky easy. His movements are so much more precise than mine. 00:05:22.520 --> 00:05:26.000 This guy's lucky messing with the input delay over here. You can't really tell on this one though, 00:05:26.000 --> 00:05:29.440 cause this one's just easy. Like I could be on like 20 Hertz type of thing 00:05:29.440 --> 00:05:33.800 and it'll be fun. Damn. It's not that, it's not that hard. 00:05:33.800 --> 00:05:37.440 Yeah, it's too easy over here. Okay, this one is crazy. 00:05:37.440 --> 00:05:40.720 This one like you move and you're not even moving. 00:05:40.720 --> 00:05:45.440 Like I want to move, but it's like, it's like I'm dragging through mud type of movement. 00:05:45.440 --> 00:05:49.160 It's like someone's holding my legs back in a race. Damn dude. 00:05:49.720 --> 00:05:53.360 Pop my reaction time go up. All right, next test. 00:05:53.360 --> 00:05:58.000 Okay, this one is bad. Oh yeah. Okay, that was terrible. 00:05:58.000 --> 00:06:01.400 Oh my God, that was terrible. Tenses up your forearms too much. 00:06:01.400 --> 00:06:05.760 Last time I did it. Oh my God. Oh, that's terrible. Oh, this one's really bad. 00:06:05.760 --> 00:06:10.160 Like the pixels aren't even working. No, it's over, it's over. 00:06:10.160 --> 00:06:13.360 No, that one was impossible. They were all the input delays. 00:06:13.360 --> 00:06:17.200 Actually, it's actually just affecting the whole thing. Okay, this one feeling good. 00:06:18.200 --> 00:06:21.680 Okay, that one felt better. 00:06:21.680 --> 00:06:25.400 That one felt a lot better. All right, last one. 00:06:25.400 --> 00:06:29.760 Damn, your ARM actually does like tense up, bro. Like it actually like messes you up. 00:06:32.800 --> 00:06:36.880 How long is this thing? Damn, you're so close to 67%. 00:06:36.880 --> 00:06:39.960 Oh my God. I hit 67. Oh no, you were at 67. 00:06:41.960 --> 00:06:46.800 You guys are too old for this man. Okay, this one was cuck, this one's cuck. 00:06:46.800 --> 00:06:51.320 This one's cuck, this one's cuck, this one's cuck. Oh my God, it's really bad. 00:07:02.680 --> 00:07:07.840 As many of you will know, I'm Linus from Linus Tech Tips. Love technology, love gaming. 00:07:07.840 --> 00:07:13.200 Not really as good at gaming as I am at tech. I'm confident that I will be able to try my best. 00:07:13.200 --> 00:07:16.920 Locking, bro. For I don't feel it. Oh, that one looks bad. I click to begin. 00:07:16.920 --> 00:07:19.120 Okay, you're not supposed to influence the test. 00:07:22.480 --> 00:07:28.200 Okay. Pretty good. So theoretically, the more latency that you add, 00:07:28.200 --> 00:07:31.960 the reaction time should just naturally go up. Well, here's the thing. 00:07:31.960 --> 00:07:38.360 We're not adding so much latency that your human reaction time and movement 00:07:38.360 --> 00:07:43.640 is likely to be a major factor. The latency we're adding is more likely to make it 00:07:43.640 --> 00:07:47.160 so that you will overshoot things. And you're not as, 00:07:47.160 --> 00:07:50.360 it's like you're not as connected to the machine. 00:07:50.360 --> 00:07:53.720 Are the routes the exact same? No, no, there's randomly generated. 00:07:53.720 --> 00:07:57.640 Okay, yeah. How many of the variables do you guys have? No, no, don't worry about that. 00:07:59.640 --> 00:08:01.320 Next task. Okay. 00:08:04.240 --> 00:08:05.080 Pretty good. 00:08:07.560 --> 00:08:10.000 Hey man, I'm trying to be positive reinforcement here. 00:08:13.640 --> 00:08:22.480 So my name is Typical Gamer, 00:08:22.480 --> 00:08:26.080 and I've been live streaming and making videos since 2009. 00:08:26.080 --> 00:08:31.920 So I'd rate my gaming ability out of 10. For Fortnite, I would put it at like a 8.5. 00:08:31.920 --> 00:08:35.280 I feel like there's gotta be, yeah, there's latency on this one already. They pre-fired it. 00:08:35.280 --> 00:08:39.360 Yeah. Don't even, don't think about that though. Just do your best every time. 00:08:39.360 --> 00:08:42.880 Yeah, come on, Typical Bro. Oh, I'm so good. 00:08:42.880 --> 00:08:46.120 I'm still good, I'm still good. Okay. All right. 00:08:46.120 --> 00:08:49.600 Damn. Wait, hold on. Oh, yeah, you're good. 00:08:49.600 --> 00:08:53.120 And watch all out. And watch all out. It's 56. 00:08:53.120 --> 00:08:57.000 Damn. Whoa. Unks got it, Unks got it. 00:08:57.000 --> 00:09:01.640 Unks literally got it. Oh my, oh, what is this? 00:09:01.640 --> 00:09:05.440 Oh, this is maximum delay. That was easy. Holy. 00:09:06.520 --> 00:09:08.560 That was so bad. All right, last one. 00:09:10.040 --> 00:09:13.760 Bricked up right now. What? What? 00:09:13.760 --> 00:09:18.320 That is a four-night term though. Bricked up? Yeah, it's when you have mass break. 00:09:18.320 --> 00:09:21.920 Oh, I lost a break? I don't know about that one, dude. Can you give me your break? 00:09:21.920 --> 00:09:23.520 I've heard that one before. 00:09:34.800 --> 00:09:39.080 We have enough data at this point, but one thing we thought would be kind of interesting 00:09:39.080 --> 00:09:43.520 would be to go head to head and find out just how much latency it takes 00:09:43.520 --> 00:09:46.720 for one of our more typical gamers 00:09:46.720 --> 00:09:51.720 to be one of, well, typical gamer, but also like the better gamers. 00:09:51.720 --> 00:09:55.240 Are you interested to know? Let's do it. 00:09:55.240 --> 00:09:58.680 Actually, I'm talking, let's do it. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You're talking to your viewers. 00:09:58.680 --> 00:10:03.280 No, I mean, leave a comment below if you are. All right, ready? 00:10:03.280 --> 00:10:05.800 Let's go. Come on, match starting. My lock-in Linus. 00:10:07.200 --> 00:10:10.720 Ready, three, two, one, peek. You saw my left. No, I'm not gonna. 00:10:10.720 --> 00:10:13.960 I don't want it. Move this way. I could stay alive. 00:10:13.960 --> 00:10:17.440 Go this way. Okay, look down. I could be a live man. 00:10:17.440 --> 00:10:20.960 I could be a live man. Ready, three, two, one, peek. No, I don't want it. 00:10:20.960 --> 00:10:24.040 You should peek. I think it's a really good time to peek. 00:10:24.040 --> 00:10:24.880 Just peek. 00:10:27.960 --> 00:10:32.800 Whoa! Oh! Wow, that was disgusting. 00:10:35.240 --> 00:10:37.760 Okay, they have nerfed me, I will say. 00:10:39.120 --> 00:10:42.120 I told you, bro. Oh! I told you. 00:10:43.440 --> 00:10:47.320 It's obvious. Always right side. It's obvious, man. 00:10:47.320 --> 00:10:51.000 Obvious right side right there. Okay, this is, okay, now it feels a little wavy. 00:10:51.960 --> 00:10:55.880 Oh! Okay, Linus. He was locked in on that. 00:10:55.880 --> 00:10:59.160 Yeah, it feels like I'm like, it's like a pendulum when I'm swing. 00:11:01.000 --> 00:11:05.120 Oh my. Awareness, it's a negative awareness, man. 00:11:05.120 --> 00:11:08.760 Now? Did you just call me negative awareness? 00:11:09.760 --> 00:11:14.800 What kind of a thing to say is that? We are now at 75 milliseconds. 00:11:14.800 --> 00:11:19.440 Oh! Oh my God! I don't know how to do that. Wow, that's a tough go. 00:11:20.440 --> 00:11:24.200 All right, let's go, bro. Let's swap. Are we swapping? Yeah, let's swap in. 00:11:24.200 --> 00:11:27.520 GG, GG. Good game, good game. GG. 00:11:27.520 --> 00:11:30.840 Dude, this is probably the dopest lab I've ever been a part of. 00:11:30.840 --> 00:11:34.880 What is this? Oh my, what the? 00:11:34.880 --> 00:11:39.440 F***. No, why is he not actually nasty? You know what I'm saying? Yeah, this is disgusting. 00:11:39.440 --> 00:11:42.520 You gotta find awareness on it. You saw that, right? You saw that shot? 00:11:42.520 --> 00:11:46.400 Yeah, but that's just being better at it. That had nothing to do with awareness. 00:11:46.400 --> 00:11:51.120 He knew where you were just as much as you knew where he was. You just are way faster. 00:11:51.120 --> 00:11:54.800 All right, don't play the same way you're doing too much, you're doing great. Okay, you need awareness. 00:11:54.800 --> 00:11:58.600 You guys are the worst coaches ever. He's never gonna peek it twice, all right? 00:11:58.600 --> 00:12:01.000 Unless right now, that he's aware that I said that. 00:12:02.080 --> 00:12:06.040 Oh! Got that, dude. I had that. 00:12:06.040 --> 00:12:09.600 F***. Maybe like, okay, he's so sweaty, bro. 00:12:09.600 --> 00:12:12.840 He's actually nuts. He's actually nuts. 00:12:12.840 --> 00:12:17.200 Now is maybe a good time to talk about the monitor. Tandem OLED, that gives you boosted brightness, 00:12:17.200 --> 00:12:21.240 as well as better longevity according to ASUS. They've got their true black glossy coating, 00:12:21.240 --> 00:12:26.560 so you get that gorgeous OLED contrast, and it looks almost as good from the back. 00:12:26.560 --> 00:12:31.920 Got transparent accents. RGB, absolutely flipping gorgeous. 00:12:31.920 --> 00:12:36.080 It is gorgeous. Oh, and don't forget that it has ROG OLED Care Pro, 00:12:36.120 --> 00:12:40.520 which includes the Neoproximity Sensor, which means the display will turn off when you step away, 00:12:40.520 --> 00:12:44.880 and back on when you step back to games. Okay, we're at 50 milliseconds. 00:12:44.880 --> 00:12:48.400 50 milliseconds. No way! What? 00:12:48.400 --> 00:12:52.040 Peek, bro. Peek that? Yeah, peek. Should I peek it? 00:12:52.040 --> 00:12:56.360 Peek it. You think so? Yeah, do it. All right, three, two, one. 00:12:56.360 --> 00:12:59.720 F***. F***. F***. F***. 00:13:00.720 --> 00:13:04.720 No! Oh! Let's go! 00:13:05.000 --> 00:13:08.920 Awareness. Awareness, coach. Maybe no chill. 00:13:08.920 --> 00:13:12.160 Yeah, get clapped, bro. He's got to hit it all. 00:13:14.800 --> 00:13:17.880 Bam! Give this guy more latency. 00:13:17.880 --> 00:13:21.160 No, no, no, we're gonna work it, we're gonna work it. Give this guy more latency. Yeah, give me some latency, bro. 00:13:21.160 --> 00:13:25.280 One more? Give him more. Give him more latency. Put it in the hands of God there for a second. 00:13:25.280 --> 00:13:28.280 That's all that. Prayed it went the right way. 00:13:28.280 --> 00:13:32.640 Oh, I had that. I swear, I swear you didn't put it in the wall like I was. 00:13:32.640 --> 00:13:36.160 Yeah, I know. See that? 00:13:36.160 --> 00:13:40.920 See how I just did that? You think I'll repeat this thing? Oh! 00:13:40.920 --> 00:13:46.040 Let's go! F***! He just sat there, like, I should have just... 00:13:46.040 --> 00:13:49.760 Let's go, dude. He's losing confidence. Losing confidence, losing confidence. 00:13:49.760 --> 00:13:52.960 No awareness? Yeah, ego challenge. Ego challenge. 00:13:52.960 --> 00:13:57.200 Every opportunity. Oh, how much has he got now, David? 00:13:57.200 --> 00:14:00.840 75. Give me like 100, bro. Oh, it's over. Give me like 120, I swear. 00:14:00.840 --> 00:14:05.680 It's over. It's over, you won. It's over. A lot more analysis is going to be needed for the AIM Lab stuff, 00:14:05.680 --> 00:14:09.440 but what is clear from the 1v1 is whether you call it awareness, 00:14:09.440 --> 00:14:14.080 whether you call it experience. If you're not good at the game, 00:14:14.080 --> 00:14:17.640 no amount of latency advantage is going to make you good at the game 00:14:17.640 --> 00:14:22.480 compared to someone who's got it. It was a great time. 00:14:22.480 --> 00:14:25.720 Yeah, I mean, it was a... What day is it today? Wednesday? 00:14:25.720 --> 00:14:28.800 It's a good day to be a Wednesday. It was a lot of fun. 00:14:28.800 --> 00:14:32.560 Yeah, I had a great time. That was pretty fun. I actually had a good time playing that. 00:14:32.560 --> 00:14:39.200 AIM Labs with a different latency. Like, I can see why it affects gaming heavily. 00:14:39.200 --> 00:14:43.600 That was rough. Like, I know that I'm average, 00:14:43.600 --> 00:14:48.840 but standing next to someone who's not average just makes it so much more apparent. 00:14:48.840 --> 00:14:52.000 What surprised you the most about today? 00:14:52.000 --> 00:14:56.320 That this is your guys' job. It's really sick. 00:14:56.360 --> 00:15:00.760 Like, the ability to basically just do science with the bros. 00:15:00.760 --> 00:15:04.880 It's sick. So, how'd it go? 00:15:04.880 --> 00:15:09.880 Initial testing, it was super clear right away that input latency has a big impact on gaming performance. 00:15:09.880 --> 00:15:13.640 At just 10 milliseconds, we were seeing almost a 7% drop, 00:15:13.640 --> 00:15:18.800 and by 50 milliseconds, over 25% drop in scores, on average. 00:15:18.800 --> 00:15:23.400 Really, that is surprising to me, because as one of the test subjects, 00:15:23.480 --> 00:15:27.880 I would say that at just a small amount of input latency, 00:15:27.880 --> 00:15:32.800 I didn't feel it. It didn't bother me. For me, there was very much a threshold, 00:15:32.800 --> 00:15:36.840 but you're saying that across our four subjects, 00:15:36.840 --> 00:15:40.800 even a little bit clearly matters. Yes, even before you can feel it, 00:15:40.800 --> 00:15:45.040 which everyone sort of made comments at about 35 to 50 milliseconds about, 00:15:45.040 --> 00:15:49.440 because it's so jiggly. Even before then, it's a pretty clear line down. 00:15:49.440 --> 00:15:54.680 And what I also found interesting was that each task had a different difference from the input latency. 00:15:54.680 --> 00:16:01.240 The biggest difference was the second one. Distraction one. Everyone had a very clear decline across all skill sets. 00:16:01.240 --> 00:16:05.320 The third one was a pretty similar linear, and the thing I found really interesting 00:16:05.320 --> 00:16:09.080 about the first test is that its secondary measurement was just reaction time, 00:16:09.080 --> 00:16:12.360 and I assumed that the more input latency I added, 00:16:12.360 --> 00:16:15.400 it would linearly add to the reaction time score, 00:16:15.400 --> 00:16:19.680 but it seemed like it kind of compounds. When you added like 50, it would increase 00:16:19.680 --> 00:16:23.120 by 100 milliseconds. So there's kind of like a compounding effect 00:16:23.120 --> 00:16:28.800 in the tracking aim click. But one thing that I realized was that 10 to 50 milliseconds 00:16:28.800 --> 00:16:32.760 was not granular enough. I chose those metrics because when I was testing, 00:16:32.760 --> 00:16:36.000 that's when I could start to feel it. So like, oh, that's gonna be, you know, the thing. 00:16:36.000 --> 00:16:39.440 So that's what you were doing the second time. We did a second round of testing 00:16:39.440 --> 00:16:44.280 with three millisecond increments. Surely you're not gonna be able to tell a difference 00:16:44.280 --> 00:16:49.160 from like three to six milliseconds. The first round of this ad hoc testing 00:16:49.160 --> 00:16:52.720 was really interesting, where there is a clear pattern down 00:16:52.720 --> 00:16:55.800 to about seven, eight, nine percent 00:16:55.800 --> 00:17:00.480 at the nine millisecond range, but there was a weird jump at six milliseconds performance 00:17:00.480 --> 00:17:03.480 where at six milliseconds of added input latency, 00:17:03.480 --> 00:17:08.200 the average performance was higher than zero, which made zero sense, 00:17:08.200 --> 00:17:11.640 not logically, not intuitively, but I wasn't really satisfied with that. 00:17:11.640 --> 00:17:15.080 So I tested another like 14, 15 people. Oh. 00:17:15.080 --> 00:17:17.360 Those results were weirder. 00:17:18.360 --> 00:17:23.000 And so it goes down at three milliseconds, up a little bit again at six milliseconds, 00:17:23.000 --> 00:17:27.080 and then down to almost the same at nine. So nine and three are almost identical. 00:17:27.080 --> 00:17:31.840 So I started to be wonder, does it not matter below 10 milliseconds? 00:17:31.840 --> 00:17:36.000 But then I separated top performers from bottom performers. 00:17:36.000 --> 00:17:40.000 Oh. And in the top performers, it's a super clear line, 00:17:40.000 --> 00:17:43.920 like undeniably just 3% each added three milliseconds. 00:17:43.960 --> 00:17:48.200 So if you're any good, then functionally speaking, 00:17:48.200 --> 00:17:51.520 there is no limit to how low you want your latency to be. 00:17:51.520 --> 00:17:56.680 Yeah. We could try to get a system that would get us less than the 12 and a half that we were testing with. 00:17:56.680 --> 00:18:01.160 Right. But it's not a realistic scenario. And for the best gamers though, 00:18:01.160 --> 00:18:04.520 that could potentially make it ever. See, I was not expecting this. Me neither. 00:18:04.520 --> 00:18:08.240 I was hoping that this video would tell people that it's really your gaming skill. 00:18:08.240 --> 00:18:11.280 That's the problem. Like your peripherals are fine, but what I found out is that. 00:18:11.280 --> 00:18:15.080 And that is, wait, and that is true to a degree. Yes. 00:18:15.080 --> 00:18:21.960 I mean, you saw how much latency we had to add to either Canada or a typical gamer, right? 00:18:21.960 --> 00:18:28.000 For me to have any shot of hitting them. But if you have the game sense or what did, 00:18:28.000 --> 00:18:32.080 what did Canada call it? Oh, awareness. You gotta find awareness on it. 00:18:32.080 --> 00:18:36.760 You saw that, right? You saw that shot? Awareness, just a negative awareness. 00:18:36.760 --> 00:18:39.800 Then there is no limit functionally that we found. 00:18:39.800 --> 00:18:43.320 No, we can confidently say that as little as three milliseconds 00:18:43.320 --> 00:18:48.960 impacts gaming performance for high, not even high, above average gamers. 00:18:48.960 --> 00:18:52.040 Huh. It's the takeaway that I find interesting 00:18:52.040 --> 00:18:55.400 is that most peripherals now are pretty low latency. 00:18:55.400 --> 00:18:58.720 Gaming mice are. Sub one millisecond. Sub one millisecond, if they're good. 00:18:58.720 --> 00:19:02.480 But I bet there's a lot of you out there that are playing competitive games on Bluetooth mice 00:19:02.480 --> 00:19:07.040 or on the wrong monitor mode. Monitors are often the biggest source of input latency. 00:19:07.040 --> 00:19:11.160 If you're gaming on a display that also has a film mode, make sure you are off that. 00:19:11.160 --> 00:19:14.240 Because that's how you get to 100 milliseconds of delay. 00:19:14.240 --> 00:19:17.760 And that was enough to get you on level with a pro gamer. 00:19:17.760 --> 00:19:23.560 Right. And when we say source of input latency, we mean because technically it's not the input, 00:19:23.560 --> 00:19:27.560 but it's the input to your eyes that will affect when you put your input in. 00:19:27.560 --> 00:19:30.800 It also makes sense that all the eSports teams are all in the same cities 00:19:30.800 --> 00:19:35.040 because that 25 milliseconds extra of LA to Dallas 00:19:35.040 --> 00:19:38.840 is enough to drastically affect your performance. 00:19:38.840 --> 00:19:43.240 Well, there it is. I mean, ASUS will be happy about that. PC gaming, is it pay to win? 00:19:45.000 --> 00:19:48.560 Well, if you have the awareness, then yes. 00:19:48.560 --> 00:19:52.000 If you don't, then there's not much you can do about it. 00:19:52.000 --> 00:19:57.480 I was kind of hoping there'd be some ambiguity here because obviously ASUS sponsored the video 00:19:57.480 --> 00:20:01.360 and it's in their best interest for lower latency, high performance peripherals 00:20:01.360 --> 00:20:05.760 to make a difference to gaming. Just like we would, sponsored or not, 00:20:05.760 --> 00:20:10.320 all we're doing is giving you guys the results that we have, semi-scientific as they are. 00:20:10.320 --> 00:20:13.440 You can check out. We'll have maybe some downloads of the graphs 00:20:13.440 --> 00:20:16.520 if you guys wanna see them down below. Oh yeah, for sure. Yeah, we'll have a little package for you guys. 00:20:16.520 --> 00:20:20.160 We'll also have links to all the products that we use down there in the video description. 00:20:20.160 --> 00:20:24.000 Or you can check out the LTC Labs website for our growing database of in-depth testing 00:20:24.000 --> 00:20:28.240 of gaming peripherals, including latency measurements of mice and keyboards. 00:20:28.240 --> 00:20:31.560 Huge thank you. Typical gamer, baby no money, 00:20:31.560 --> 00:20:36.000 and Kanata for joining us today. I had a ton of fun, at least as much fun 00:20:36.000 --> 00:20:39.040 as the last time we did a video like this, which maybe you should check out. 00:20:39.040 --> 00:20:42.120 It was more focused on how many frames per second you need 00:20:42.120 --> 00:20:46.680 before it affects gaming performance. And the results may surprise you 00:20:46.680 --> 00:20:52.040 if you completely weren't paying attention today. It turns out more is better.