I'm asking our employees what they think of A.I. as a company both in the tech and this
crave space. I'm sure there are takes that people want to share. Uncut versions will be
available below, so let's get into it. I am here with Jonathan Horst. Emily Young. James Shrype.
Do I get to hold this at any point? Do I have to keep leaning in? Yeah, I'm realizing. Jake Bell.
Dan, hey, uh, Andy. Nicole. Ploof. And what do you do for the company? Right. Good. What's your
thought in the current state of A.I.? I've only used ChatGPT before. I think for like day-to-day,
like if I don't want to deal with like a customer representative, like, hey, I want to get refund
off this. I was like, hey, ChatGPT, write me an email about getting a refund off this. Over-hyped.
We're thinking of it as like it's going to just do the thing we want it to do when it's probably
just going to be yet another tool in the toolbox. It's pretty interesting. There's a lot of cool
stuff going on and I'm excited to see it kind of develop over the next, uh, I guess a year or
a few months even. We don't have it? No, it's not. What we refer to as A.I. right now, have you
ever played Mass Effect? So in the lore of Mass Effect, A.I.s are like, you don't do that. So
instead what they have is what's called a V.I. of virtual intelligence. That is a lot like what we
consider to be like ChatGPT and all that kind of stuff right now. It's able to answer questions.
It's able to kind of like carry a conversation. It's able to do a lot of things, but it's not
able to think. So it's just learning patterns and spitting out what it thinks is the next thing in
the pattern, more or less. To me, it just seems like this big mass of horrifying knowledge and it
just gets kind of like randomly spit out whether it's accurate or not. So for me, it's like kind
of spooky because you never really know what you're going to get. I think a lot of fantasy stuff
going on. It's people getting very excited about what's going to be in the future while it's actually
the capabilities are still a bit limited. However, they're crazy compared to two years ago,
three years ago, like the transformational, especially the A.I. art space, like that's
already pretty damn good and pretty damn disruptive and scary. I think overall it's really cool and
it's a great idea. We could speed up things like machine learning. We can use it to diagnose people
who have weird symptoms and stuff because let's face it, people are limited at some point. It
becomes bad when we basically use prior work to then create new stuff and the people that made
that work previously don't get any credit for it. It's not maybe as terrifying as people think it is.
Yeah, certainly, certainly for it. So since you're for it, what's one thing you're really against in
terms of the A.I.? Probably creating images of real people as we've seen with QTC and
Pokimane and some of these other streamers that had explicit photos of them generated and shared
on websites, stuff like that is awful. And now people think it's a lot of fun to create the A.I.
songs of like Linus and stuff like that online, but he didn't consent to that. And no matter what,
that's kind of wrong and weird to think that just because he's on the internet, he's okay with it.
That's not true. And it's something that obviously there's no way to limit, but it's something I'm
definitely concerned about. I think probably some of the protectionism. I mean, you're spending
millions of dollars on like cloud infrastructure, GPU time, just to actually create a reasonable
model. People, I think, are willing to protect that rather than just open sourcing it. Adobe's
like generative fill is kind of like interesting. They're demonstrating it in like, look at,
we could make this image so much wider and we can fill it just from this tiny little portrait.
We could turn it into a whole landscape and it's like, yeah, I guess that's cool, but it's also
like, what is the picture then anymore? A.I. is difficult. There are things that A.I. is really
good for. Say, for example, A.I. image scaling or whatever, you train it to do whatever it needs
to do and it does it basically by failing as many times as is necessary to fail the correct way.
And that's actually really cool because it does things in a way that is very difficult to do in
traditional software. When you get into marketing A.I. as well, I mean, I keep saying A.I. is more
like machine learning. So like, when you get into marketing it as like A.I. and you say, oh, well,
chat GPT is going to take over the world, well, that's overselling it. And that's, I think it's
by design that they're doing that because they want people to invest. They want people to think
that we're close enough. I think it's a really interesting tool. And I think it, depending on
how it's used, it kind of broadens a lot of channels and possibilities of being able to sort
through a lot of information really quickly. Like for example, you can ask A.I. something and it'll
like throw out a ton of results. But then it's also like good to keep in mind. This is always just
from a certain pool of information. So depending on how accurate that pool of information is,
you can't always 100% trust it. I hate writing, by the way, but like, but when you figure out how
to write something really cohesively and like, it's like, that's really impressive. And I just
don't know how a prompt is going to lead to that. As a writer, you hate writing. I do.
There's a lot of worry that like A.I. would take over creative jobs. And as we are in a creative
field, what do you think about that? I personally don't think so. Because like, A.I. can be very
objective. But like, they probably can really be subjective. If I trust the A.I. to grab focus for
me, sometime, if we have a face in there, they'll grab like focus like pretty well. But there is
one person of the chance that, you know, the focus gets shifted to something else. Because
the camera thing, that's the face. Human being in general is still better in that case. Like,
determine which part is the important part. So that's exactly the reason why we don't use like,
autofocus on the top down and be cam for ShortCircuit. If no new writing is made,
like if you say, for example, writing is completely no longer a thing. Basically,
as you iterate on things that are already iterated on, you kind of like lose bits and pieces of it,
it'll be difficult to continue indefinitely. You might get away with a little bit for a little
while. People are already getting away with writing paragraphs or whatever. But it still requires
like an editing pass. It still requires people who know what they're doing. Because I don't know
if you or like people who are watching know. But A.I., especially like chat GBT, has a very short
memory. So if you're trying to tell a story, like in a movie or something, keeping that thing on the
rails is going to be a really tough, a really tough operation. Creative industry is definitely
at a risk. I think it's going to be similar to other industries, like perhaps VFX, where there's
humans still doing the job, but there's fewer of them, because the human is doing it can do
so much faster now. But I think we're going to see things change and adapt. I think we're going to see
a lot more like identity driven, personality driven content, like influencers, like Linus,
who you love and have a parasocial relationship with, that's going to just become even more
of a thing. Because in a couple of years, the majority of the content on the internet is going
to be from A.I. And you're not even going to know that it's from A.I. And we're going to have to
figure out identity online. And whether that's a blockchain thing or some kind of centralized,
I don't know, identity system, we're going to have to figure out a way to know like, oh,
actual humans said that, not just a very convincing bot with a political agenda. I don't
know, oh yeah, will my job be a risk? If I was in high school right now, I would be, I'd be doing
trades for sure. Something, the robots are 15 years behind the A.I.s right now, I think. So
something practical that you can help with would definitely be a little more secure than a purely
creative job. Yeah, I was telling Nicole, you know, A.I. can maybe edit videos, but it can't
do a fart reverb like I can. No way. It can't put Vine boom in at the perfect moment.
Have you used any A.I. currently? Like, where it's like, you have chat GBT,
the image random rangers, music, are you like that? Have you used any of it? The only thing I've really done with A.I. was when Mid Journey and those other guys were coming
out, I was messing around on it. I was like, yeah, this is cool. Haha, like Trump eating a lemon or
whatever. I don't know. That's like the, oh my God, why is that my example? Have you used things
like A.I. Dungeon, the like choosing an adventure Dungeons and Dragons type game online, where it
creates a story for you to play through. And that's a lot of fun. But otherwise, I haven't done
really any image generation. The only thing is I created an image of Kanye West at a ring door
bell cam. And that was, that was pretty funny. Yeah, I've played with pretty much all of them.
And I actually run a couple at home. So I run an LLM as well as stable diffusion for image generation.
And I run those locally. I recently just bought a couple more 30 90s and, you know, upgraded some of
them with VRAM so that I could try some of the larger models. So they're like a chat GBT for
but you can only talk to them for like, I don't know, two to five minutes before the
like token inference length gets too much. And it takes like a minute to respond to you.
But initially they're they're really quite powerful as a tech slash creator company that we are.
Do you think that we should be using AI and like any capacity or depends on the AI and depends on
what we're using it for. If we're talking chat GBT, I don't know that it's not like copyright
infringing. So that's one thing. The fact that we don't know what the test like the the actual
data sets that they train them on is a bit of a big giant question mark in terms of like the
ethics and the I guess legality ultimately of using AI for generative purposes. On the other
hand, like say for example, I'm like 95% of the way through a script. And you're like,
you don't know how to close it out. You could sit there and you could scratch your head for
an hour or two, or you could ping some concepts off of chat GBT or something and see what it looks
like. I believe we do currently. I think the business team uses it for talking points and
things like that. And then they just kind of clean it up. I think basically every organization
should be using whatever new tools come to light. I mean, transcribing meetings, summarizing a
meeting that you missed, if it can allow your team to be smaller and increase your output,
yeah, you should be using that really specific use cases where it's going to be really amazing.
But in terms of like broad strokes, no, it's going to like help just like that tiny little
step like making one thing that you're trying to making one vision you have a bit easier to
to execute or like making it better. That sounds great. We should use it as a starting point,
but we shouldn't use it for like the final product as a tool, we should be using it as a tool,
like you'd use a computer as a tool or a camera as a tool. If I'm not like selling
up other people's work, I'm okay with that. It's like, I need lines to be in a car,
where can I get the car? You know, like that car, it costs money, that costs time, that costs people's
effort. Yeah, so in general, just like as long as the AI we're not like selling up other people's
stuff and be able to help us like increase our production quality, increase our speed,
I think that's a good thing to use. Not really. Maybe machine learning for the lab, but like real
AI and using it to make, I don't know, I don't think so. I just, I hate the idea of eliminating
jobs, especially when it's not ready. I think in a couple of years that story might change and I
might be like, yeah, sure, I don't want to make the timestamps for every video. So run it through
the AI generator to generate those timestamps for us like fine. But right now, nah, I'm sweating
like crazy. So we're going to wrap it up here. Do you want to say anything to the float planers?
I'm trying to coin this phrase now, or like something you didn't, we didn't talk about that you wanted to expand on. Tell Sammy you don't like being called float planers.
No, I'm so glad to get this off my chest. Everything, like all, all tools are inherently
not good or evil. It is what you use it for. That is, this is the most important. So like AI
every job scaling is amazing. For example, it's just one of those things that's just
so universally useful. Try it at home. It's fun at home. It's a fun little exercise. It's
really, really simple to get going. And it's a fun little playground and you don't have to like
spend money on chat GPT. I mean, chat GPT is still the best. But if you play with it at home,
yours is you can play with it as much as you want. It's still, it's still flawed. It's still very
flawed. It's all no, like how to commit the perfect crime. It's got answers for that somewhere. You
just got to convince it. I would love real AI. I want a Jarvis, you know, a Jarvis that goes like,
Oh, I got you fam. I got this ready for you before like an actual personality,
an actual artificial intelligence that's effectively a human. That'll be scary. And it means like
deleting an AI is like deleting a sentient life. And that's why I does not truly exist now is
because like a sentient life is not something that's easy to do. For a lot of like the medical
environment, I am pretty like pro AI because like some people are doing research on like data and
stuff like for data driven stuff. Like I think AI is definitely winning and also quite like useful.
Maybe like if the AI research enough like paper, we can cure cancer, you know, you never know. So
in that perspective, I think it's great. Generally excited. Generally excited.
Yeah, cut this out. No, this is uncut version. All right, we'll cut it there. Thank you very
much. Bye flow planers. James leave him, but I'm gonna keep waving. I'm committed a bit. Bye.