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Hi Yvonne, welcome to Reacting to Your First Appearance on LMG.

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All right, here we go. Do you think you remember what your first appearance was?

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No, I don't think so. It was probably some sort of office makeover or the moving vlog videos that we did.

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Unless you count back when I used to film with Linus, but I don't think I was ever in those. I think I only just filmed.

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So we were trying to figure this out as well, and as you can see, I've shortlisted some videos in front of you.

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Okay. But to get to that, we ended up having to ask Linus,

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and if you alt-tab for me, you'll see Linus's long list of videos.

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Man, he was detailed. I don't know that I remembered all of this.

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Yeah, so he went to the specificity of you being in and of it being blurred out,

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you not saying anything, saying something. That's funny because you can, from his list here,

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you can kind of see the progression of where it started, which is cool.

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I was definitely not comfortable being on camera before. It took a long time.

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Still takes a while. Let's start with reacting to one of the ones you filmed for Linus.

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Sure. Oh man, the quality of our videos before were so bad.

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That, I think, was a table from his aunts that we had.

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And, oh man, where was this? Was this at my parents' place, or?

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How did this go about? Like, did you volunteer to film, or did you have no choice?

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I think it was more just that he worked all the time,

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and I wanted to spend time with him, and if the only way I could spend time with him was to help him work,

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then I was going to do that. Because he would bring home, like, I kid you not,

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a carload full of products over the weekend, and I'll just be like, Linus, what's going on?

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And he's like, I have to film all of these this weekend. I'd be like, okay, well, here, I'll help you.

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We'll make it go faster. It's kind of been our relationship to do everything together

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and just kind of help each other with whatever it is. Oh, that's sweet.

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So I learned a lot more about products, tech products, than I would have otherwise.

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Do you think this was the first one you ever filmed, or...? I don't know. It seems early enough, yeah.

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Like, I was with Linus before he started at NCIX.

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Correct. So any time he filmed off-site, it was me.

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You were the only camera person? Yeah, so there was the cameraman,

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which was who would film with him at the office, and then just, yeah, everything else was with me.

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Sometimes I think he self-filmed, but that was a lot more difficult. Yeah, this is brutal.

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I'm so glad that our production quality is better now. There's also another one to go to the next video.

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Oh, in Singapore. Okay, see, the thing that I tell you about how Linus just does Linus things,

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and if you want to spend time with Linus, you better do things with him. We were supposed to be on a family vacation

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with my extended family in Singapore, and of course, he has to work,

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and so I'm just like, Linus, seriously, we paid all this money to be overseas,

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and to spend time with people we haven't seen in 10 years,

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and you want to work. All right. Well, I guess we better make this go fast,

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and he obviously needed someone. There was no plan for anyone else to film for him,

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so I think he just assumes now that I will do this for him.

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I mean, he's not wrong. I did, so. Was your family comfortable with him

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deciding to upgrade the Wi-Fi at their place? I think so.

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I think they were having problems. Actually, you know what? Don't quote me on this.

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I don't remember exactly, but I don't know if they cared.

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I think it was that Linus went to their house, and because in Singapore, all the homes are made of concrete, not wood.

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He was having troubles with the Wi-Fi, so he was just like, I can't stand this.

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We have to be here for the next two weeks. I need to fix this.

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I think that might be how it originated, actually. Of course, they got Wi-Fi upgrades,

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so I think they put up with them. He's always thinking of content ideas,

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wherever he is, whatever he's doing, even on vacation.

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I'm surprised they let him film the inside. Their home is beautiful.

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That's my mom. All these shots taken by you?

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I don't remember, but I do remember that Linus would get so annoyed with my aunt.

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Okay, so it runs on my mom's side of the family to be clean freaks,

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and so Linus would take a drink of water, put his cup down, go to do something,

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come back to get another drink, and his cup would be gone, because she's just like so anal about cleaning.

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I remember this video took a long time. I think if you skip to about the halfway mark,

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it's probably where I think you're following him around.

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Yeah, yeah. Was this one of your first times

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kind of experiencing him in a market type

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setting? No, it's not actually. So when we were, oh man,

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like when we had first started dating, we went to the Richmond night market.

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I don't know if you know what that is. It like had market type things, and he was like, buy me a sword.

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I want a sword. I was like, are you serious right now? And this was back when you could burn DVDs and CDs,

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and you could get good deals at the night market. Right. So yeah.

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Back in that era is when we first went to a market.

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Oh wow, we used Unify even back then. That's cool. Do you think you'd be able to take on

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the duty of camera person now? I don't know.

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The cameras we use are kind of complicated now.

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I know that most of them have an auto setting, so probably I don't think that it would be the same

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quality as the guys do now, but I could get by if I had to.

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Like if I had to do this again, I probably could. It's why I'm seeing Linus without socks.

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Oh my god, yes. No socks, no sandals. Yeah, let's move on to your first appearance.

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And as Linus mentioned, also your first word on camera.

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Oh man, yep. See, man, our life, our private life,

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our personal life, and work were so intertwined.

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This is literally like what we had to do. I had bad posture.

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I need to work on that. So yeah, I had to bring the entire family,

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the baby and our toddler,

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to go and get office equipment.

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I don't miss those days. How did you feel about appearing on camera for the first time?

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Like was that on your mind? No, I don't think so, not at all.

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I mean, there's so many things that are distracting at this point, right? There's the baby, there's the toddler,

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there's the actual shopping, there's the filming. It's almost too much to keep in your head.

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You're just kind of focused on getting it done. I was probably just focused on getting it done.

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Like, hey, we need to get out of here as soon as possible. There's so many things we need to do.

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Let's go. Did you try for as long as possible to actively avoid being on screen?

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I did, actually. I don't really know why anymore at this point.

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I think just insecurity about being online.

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I tend to be a really private person and kind of an introvert.

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And so being on camera didn't really jive with that. But I think over time, I've gotten a little bit more used to it.

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And the audience is really nice, so that helps a lot. Linus is the exact opposite to that.

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Well, you know what? A lot of people think that Linus is an extrovert because he can present as one,

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but he's actually more introverted than I am. Oh, really? Yeah, you wouldn't think that, but yeah.

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Yeah, it's kind of hard to tell at work, I guess, because I mean, when it comes to talking to people,

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he's absolutely comfortable. He's excellent at it, yeah. And I am not. Like, if you ask me to do public speaking,

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I just clam up. I can't do it.

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And then I come across as really dumb. It doesn't help me.

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I totally feel that. Okay, let's move on to the next video.

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Okay. So this one is, you're on a phone call at Ronald's pranking Linus.

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I remember this one. I think, was it Luke who asked me to do this?

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Hey, where are you? You're supposed to be here already.

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Well, I texted you earlier. Our flight's leaving earlier. You're supposed to be here.

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I sound really believable. You lied really well in the Swedish video.

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What's really funny is that I'm actually a terrible liar. So I'm really surprised this happened.

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Linus always can tell. You were a goer late. I've been trying to call you and reach you.

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I wonder if the reason this one is so believable

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is because I have conversations with Linus like this all the time. Oh, right.

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So he waited like where he needs to be. I need to meet me at the airport.

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I'm packing up the kids right now. We need to go. Okay, okay, okay, okay.

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Okay, bye. I was really stressed out about lying to Linus

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and pranking him about this because he's already super stressed.

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And I didn't want to add to it. But for video content, that's what you do, right?

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You just go for it anyway. I think you can tell in this video

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when he gets really stressed out because it goes on for a little too long.

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People are helping him gather things. And I think they've also, someone also disconnected

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the battery in his car. So he was trying to move it and he's like,

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my battery's dead. I felt so bad after.

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Yeah. Oh, this was when the Civic was black still.

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Did you guys actually have a flight to catch at some point? I think we did because otherwise it wouldn't have been believable.

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This might have been, was this right before the Singapore trip? Like I wonder if that's the one we went to?

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I think there's a little newer than the

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It's got to be something else then. Like the next day or just that night?

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I think it was, it must have been that day. Right. And you were just telling him that the flight's been moved off.

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I just want to say I didn't know until like most of the way through.

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Wait, Luke didn't know? Okay, I wonder who asked me to do it then.

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Okay. No, I obviously don't remember properly.

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I guess off-screen is a pranking line as something you kind of do.

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Like, do you try to mess with him a little bit? No, not, not, not in this way, like not in pranks.

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Like we like to tease each other and like make fun of each other,

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but not usually pranks. Everyone looks so young. Everyone looks like babies.

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So this is your next, I guess, bigger appearance.

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Okay. Oh man, I was, I hated this video so much.

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I hated this day so much. It was awful. They sent me from place to place to place.

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I was so tired of driving. And then after all that, they made my office look like a nursery.

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Hey, but I think in this video, you say you like it.

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I mean, I liked that it had a story.

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You being nice. A little. That filing cabinet sucked so much.

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I had glitter on me every single day for as long as I had that stupid filing cabinet.

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It was unbelievable. I mean, it kind of was a nursery. I brought the kids to work a lot

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because I was supposed to be on mat leave. So at least they had somewhere that was bright and happy and fun

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and they even had toys. It's insane to think how much the offices transformed.

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Yes. That's now like a call room. I think procurement was there for a bit.

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We've had so many office makeovers and each time we try to make it like,

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I think the first time I did an office makeover, it was just like, okay, just paint it whatever colors

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so that it looks good on camera and let's just like move on. And then the next time it was like, okay,

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let's add a little bit of depth to it. Can we make some kind of LMG somehow?

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And then like every time I feel like we just kind of try to do that even more.

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So when you go around and look at the personalizations that have happened after,

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I feel like they're a lot more meaningful. Like, I don't know if you know,

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but in the writer's den, for example, no, sorry, that was for the pictures

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that are in the main entryway. So it's like our top videos that line the wall over there.

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Like everyone can do just random decorations like home decor or whatever.

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We just tried to make it personalized and like techy and cool.

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Better than just a bland office, you know? Yeah. It's core pretty feeling.

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One day we'll get to the lab. We haven't done that yet.

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I think that's going to be a huge job. Yeah. And I don't have time for that right now.

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All right. So this is your first ever time hosting a video

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and it was a tech link. Tell us a little bit about how you got to this.

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I don't know the evolution of how I got to this.

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I was starting to get a lot more comfortable on camera and I think Linus just wanted me to try something.

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And TechLinked is a great place to kind of start because you don't necessarily need to do

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a whole lot of research beforehand. You're reading the news. So it's all scripted.

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Yeah. I guess it was just kind of like a playground for a host

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to get started and see how it feels and improve from there.

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So. Evonne. Can we? Yeah. I want to come home technically.

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Really? Yeah. Come on. Okay. There you go.

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All right. Catch. So this is so awkward.

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The sad part is I don't know if it's better than this now. Oh, man.

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I don't think I can watch this. You're skipping through it. You're skipping through it.

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What? You have to watch yourself. That's how we're here. Oh, okay.

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All right. All right. All right. Take our jerbs. Jerbs, Riley.

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We got our jerbs. This is so awkward.

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I was very nervous. I don't know if you can tell, but I was very nervous.

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I still get nervous now, but this is like a whole another level of nervous.

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Honestly, that's pretty understandable. But also I think you did a pretty good job.

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Oh, thanks. And I think most of the audience also agrees in the comments.

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Yeah. They were really nice and they were really supportive and I think that was why I was okay with even trying to do more.

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You know what? I think a big part of it too was that when I was on mat leave

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and you spend your entire day talking to kids, you kind of forget how to talk to adults

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or talk to other people in general. So it took a it felt like double stacking.

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Like I'm already not comfortable being in the public or public speaking.

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And then you add to that just like not even having the opportunity to practice socializing on a day to day level.

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It just made it really hard. Were you comfortable with reading off a like teleprompter?

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No, I had never used a teleprompter before. So it took a lot of just like trial and error to get the speed, right?

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And then I think I did the thing that you're also not supposed to do where you're just like reading with your eyes

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instead of trying to look at it and just like having it in the background as you're reading.

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Were there any failed takes from this shot?

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Probably, but Riley helped a lot.

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He was really encouraging and positive and that helped.

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I think you're right about TechLinked being a nice little setting for people to start out on.

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Yeah, and it helps that you have somebody like Riley in the background just talking to you.

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It makes it feel a lot more conversational and easier to do.

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Yeah, yeah, that was very awkward.

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All right, fast forward to your more recent appearance

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is when you hosted a ShortCircuit. How'd this come about?

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I was really nervous for this one too. This was my first time solo hosting any video.

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I did not prepare for it as much as I would have wanted to. I think I literally just put all my thoughts down in the car on the way over.

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But the great part is though that I had lots of experience with the

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Cricut already, so I think that shows.

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Jono was super helpful in this one, just kind of telling me,

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sorry, I'm getting lost in this video now.

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He was really good about just telling me, hey, your energy level is great here, keep it up.

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Or being like, okay, I don't know if people necessarily care about this.

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Why don't we go on to the next points and things like that? I remember all the tips that Linus tells me,

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anytime you think you're being energetic, amplify that five times

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because the camera takes so much of it away. So I tried really hard to do that in this video.

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Yeah, you kind of have to exaggerate. Did the product come around first and they thought you'd be a good fit to host?

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Or did you kind of? No, I volunteered to do this one or Linus volunteered me.

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One of the two of the things. I think it was more like I was thinking about it,

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but I kind of needed that extra shove of encouragement to actually do it.

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How do you think this compares to your tackling toasting?

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Oh my goodness, I feel like this was a night and day difference. But even then I look at this video and I'm just like,

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oh no, all the things that I did wrong in it, how can I do better next time?

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Like what? I hate when I misspeak and I feel like I did that a few times.

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Cricut, Cricut, like. But I think even the most experienced hosts do that too right now, right?

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Yeah, that's true. And obviously being around Linus and seeing him do things in one take,

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I'm just like, okay, well the standard is here

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and I am not meeting that standard and so it just makes me feel bad.

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He calls himself the professional communicator in our household. Oh boy, oh boy, what a title.

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That does not go well at all. Do you think you'd ever host more short circuits or any kind of videos?

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Honestly, I'd love to.

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It's kind of a nice break from doing numbers and paperwork all day,

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so definitely, definitely interested. Because it goes so long in between when I do host,

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I feel like I don't make as much or like I don't improve enough

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for how long it seems like I host four. Like if you look at this, the first video is from what, like 10 years ago?

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That's seven years ago. Seven years ago, okay. If you look at it and you're like, well you've been in the film industry for seven years,

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but then you think about where I am now and I'm just like, yeah, no, that doesn't match up.

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If I do a video every three years, it's hard to kind of get to Linus' level when I do that.

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But I guess you've been in a lot more of log style content, which is much easier,

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I'm guessing, to kind of be on screen. It isn't, it isn't.

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I feel like it's completely different. So with log stuff, because it's in areas that I don't necessarily know,

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like tech is not my forte. I feel like it's more challenging because I don't feel like I can contribute as much.

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But then obviously when I'm with Linus or if I'm hosting with Linus,

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there's that relationship in history that I can kind of rely on. But if I had to do that with somebody else, I don't think that I could necessarily.

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But then yeah, I would love to if there's things that kind of overlap with our audience.

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Like I think the cricket was great for that. And if there were other things like that, I would love to.

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I think I got the laser, the laser cutter.

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I can't remember what it's called now. I haven't used it yet. I really should.

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But I got that as part of my AMD upgrade to try to use it.

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And then hopefully do a video like this again on the ShortCircuit channel.

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Sorry, that was a convoluted way of saying I would love to. I just need to have products that kind of overlap well.

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It's also probably refreshing to see, you know, not just Linus there all the time, right?

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Well, I like Linus. I don't know the problem with that.

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Yeah, I'm going to look back on this in 10 years from now and be very upset at myself for just.

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Yeah, this video. Why? Like, why, why, why?

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Because I feel like I'm processing so slow. Like that last part where I just completely said random stuff.

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And then at the end of it was like, what did I even say just now? No, it's okay.

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I feel bad. Hey, you're not hosting, hosting. So it's okay.

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It's a conversation, right? Let's see. If I can't even have a conversation, how can I host?

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I can be really hard myself sometimes. So if you haven't noticed.

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Is there a different style of video or anything that you wouldn't mind trying out to either

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host or be featured in? I mean, I would totally be down to host TechLinked again.

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I think I hosted one or two more after that one that got significantly better.

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Kind of just dropped off. So yeah, I would totally be down for that.

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And honestly, I'm down to do more blogs and other things too.

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It's just, it's whatever kind of fits the schedule and whatever fits the content.

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I don't want to force something that's not right. Awesome.

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So we've got to go talk to Riley and get you on the next TechLinked.
