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Mmm Man, there's so many things I want to talk about, but I feel like I should save them for the show

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How's it going people? I can talk to, you can say things, and I can respond. We can do that

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That works What if what if, ahh, what if you made the content?

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You asking the them?

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Let me see I think I'm going to save the exact details of it for the show, but I have been in some

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form of transportation up until, effectively, twenty minutes ago, for over thirty hours

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straight, trying to get here for a while.

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Some of it did not go well, but we somehow got here anyways.

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Sparkling water? Definitely still. Sparkling water is a demonic creation, as far as I can tell.

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Sparkling water is so good.

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I don't get it. I don't like it.

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What is bad with it? It's just, why? Why?

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I just, I don't know. I don't really get it.

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Why, uh, why mess with it?

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I get, like, adverse reactions to it.

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Sometimes I'll take a sip and I'm just like, whoa, gross.

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I don't know why.

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Love the Eva show floor video? Yeah, the comments seemed pretty positive.

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Happy to see that. Happy to see that.

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What, uh, what, it comes out of the ground sparkling in some places?

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Hi there, everyone. Oh, wow. Uh, that's not a great look.

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Oh, my goodness. All right, cool.

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There you go. Um, so this is maybe the coolest intro we've ever done.

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Are you speeding through a school zone?

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Uh, no comment.

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That's pretty sick dude. Yeah.

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And that's like the janky, like thrown together version of this that, that like

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we were able to do. Sure. Yeah. With their tech.

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Because there's going to be like the mega Hollywood version.

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Yeah. Um, yeah, this is going to be, this is going to be a cool video, guys.

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Do not miss Tuesday's video. I don't know if it's going to have a super enticing title or whatever.

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Don't be fooled. Watch the video.

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Um, man, when show is like dead, when show doesn't get views anymore.

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Oh, okay. Thanks, Dan. Um, I mean, we can still talk about that.

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Uh, oh, you know what? Do those things have anything to do with each other?

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Oh dude, last week when show, it follows the pattern 300,000 views over 10,000 likes.

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It's actually one of the most liked when shows in the last forever, but it has like

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half as many views as some of the ones from like a month or two ago.

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Huh. That is interesting. Cause I did notice that like, you know, I was remote and had 10 quibillion ping.

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Um, but it did actually feel like a pretty good show. Yeah, I thought it was a pretty good show.

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So I was a little bit disappointed when the, when the view seemed low.

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Oh, can we change the title to new iPhone? Sorry, Dan.

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I mean, obviously I wouldn't order an old iPhone.

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I ordered my iPhone. It is only my...

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Oh, sorry. No, no, uh, Apple prefers just iPhone.

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I ordered iPhone. No, no, I'm kidding. I'm kidding.

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I ordered my new iPhone. It's fine. Yeah.

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Apple prefers just iPhone.

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Thank you for that, Dan. That's funny.

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Oh, mic muted, whatever. Don't care.

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Oh, his mic was muted the whole time. Nice. Got him.

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Let's have his camera on and his mic muted. It seems like a good combo.

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Oh my God. Perfect. He should just sit there and just like gum flap the whole time.

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The guy who talks to himself.

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Make them mutually exclusive. So like, he can have his camera up, but his mic has to be muted.

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Yeah, that's a great idea. Or his camera. It would be like those old universal remotes where every time you turn your TV on, your

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receiver goes off.

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Oh, man. These are dumb. I like this.

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All right, cool.

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All right. Should we, Dan, that thing that you said muted and stuff.

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Is there good news then? Not sure yet.

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Okay. Yep. Sure.

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Okay. What else are we on the dock here?

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Um, I don't know, but, uh, served the home.

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Hit a million subscribers. Oh, nice. Good old Patrick.

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Hell yeah. Yeah. Right.

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Observed. Yeah. Absolute cool guy.

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Yeah. Certified cool guy. Yeah.

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And like has been for a hot minute.

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0.12.

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Um, all right.

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Okay. Sorry. Yeah.

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He just texted me. So I had him on, on my mind.

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Uh, what was I going to, what was I going to check?

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I'm going to check something. Um, no, I don't think I need to check anything.

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I think we could just, uh, we could just do this thing.

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Sure. Okay. There's just one more thing.

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I want to say. Hilarious. I might be able to go tomorrow.

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Oh, really? Because I was wrong. Every other one has been at that time.

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Nice. This one is at a later time. Nice.

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Yeah. Okay. You just let me know.

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Yeah. Uh, you guys are both invited, obviously.

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Yeah. Okay. Okay.

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So let's do this thing.

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Okay. Breakdown. Y'all need to chill the f**k out.

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Is Linus calling someone cool? Really?

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Praise. It's like your grandpa calling something new.

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Wow. Yikes. That's amazing.

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Ow. Okay. Yikes.

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Yikes. That's amazing. Ouch.

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I want to frame that. Damn.

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Damn. Wow. Oh, man.

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The show hasn't even really started yet.

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Already the sickest of burns have been bestowed upon me.

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Ugh. All right.

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Well, anyway.

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I'll open up the thing to resume the selected now.

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Do my walk of shame for being apparently old and not cool.

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All right.

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Oh, man. I need to, yeah, have a real sleep at some point.

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Me too. I don't even have a good reason for it because I'm not jet-legged, but remember how I showed

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you my like sleep quality tracker thing the other day?

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Is it just worse? I still am like comically bad no matter what time I go to bed.

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I'm just like, I had one good night's sleep this week, but I actually felt like the worst

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after that night. Even if we're being complete. Well, yeah, I do find if you have a really bad chain for a while and you have one good

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one. Yeah. I'm like, oh, we finally get to rest.

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So like gets hit pretty hard. And then you're like, nah, dog, like even when I supposedly have a good quality one, I find

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I don't feel good unless I get deep REM sleep is like useless and light sleep is super useless.

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The one I need is the deep one. That's the only time I ever feel good in the morning.

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That's interesting. So maybe there's like tricks for optimizing your deep sleep.

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I think there is. Like drugs. Oh.

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Gabapentin.

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I just, I just assume, I assume there's illicit substances that will fix this problem for

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me while introducing many others. I didn't even actually hear the word Dan said, but I'm, I'm assuming it was.

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Gabapentin. Oh, I thought you said Evermectin.

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Oh, that was pretty funny. No, that would be funny.

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It heals everything though. I was giving a serious advice.

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That's for horse. It's horse stuff, right? The warmer all kinds of things.

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You can take horse tranquilizer. It's for everything. It heals COVID and cancer.

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Oh, nice. Nice. Various other things.

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You know, so does, you know, something like extreme, like uranium or something.

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Yeah. I mean, is the cancer not cured if you're dead?

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Oh, it's a good point.

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These treatments worked in the laboratory under Petri dish.

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Fire. So does that. Yeah.

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Go on. Fire is really good at cleaning things.

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Yes. We should eat more fire.

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Forget fiber. I put the bleach into our veins.

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We should put the fire there. There's an, if you need to eat it, there's an incredible amount of calories and gasoline.

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Really? That actually makes a ton of sense. There actually is.

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Like there's so much energy in it. They're legitimately is. Yeah.

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Your heart.

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Okay. I'm just going to start the thing.

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Resuming the selected. Oh, wait, right. Yeah.

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30,000 calories in one gallon of gasoline. Okay.

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Well, how many calories are in a gallon of milk though?

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Like, do I need to drink the gasoline or are there other options?

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I think it's a lot less than that. Let's see.

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Can you put it? Can you mix it with protein powder? Which one would make you fart more?

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A gallon of gasoline or a gallon of milk? I thought it was more than 1600 calories.

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That's it. In a gallon of milk. Okay.

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So it's actually a lot more. We need to evolve our digestive system. To be able to.

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To be able to drink gas. Consume gasoline. Yeah.

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Your hair is looking great. That is a very odd compliment for me right now because I think it's just grease.

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Yeah. You also kind of look like a nerd.

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Yeah. It's like a little too tidy. Yeah.

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I can't make it less tidy though because there's so much grease. No, you actually like, you, you look like a choir boy a little bit.

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Yeah. I think, I think you're right to be honest.

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Now you look like a choir boy who just woke up.

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I don't, I don't think I can fix it right now.

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This is what it is. Cory G says, go to the weird shower and wash it.

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I could, but I don't, I don't think there's like towels there or anything.

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I mean, there is a place to get towels.

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I'm just saying, you know, where's the place that sells to, you can also get screwdrivers

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and pet beds. Do they just have them there? No.

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Yeah. I mean, maybe actually. Sometimes they do.

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Sometimes they don't. All right. One gram of uranium 235 has 20 billion calories.

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That's a. Okay. I've resumed it.

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Select it. Calm down. All of you.

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What is up you fine folks and welcome to the, that's never happened before.

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I swear that's never happened before.

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First time. First time.

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Look, I'm almost 40. We got a great show for you guys today.

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Apple's event was actually maybe kind of exciting.

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It could just be that my excitement about the new AirPods Pro threes is bleeding over

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into all the other products. That might be true, but they look really cool.

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Maybe the rest of them are crap, but the AirPods Pro threes look pretty freaking awesome.

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Yeah. In other news this week, the real self-driving was the friends we made along the way.

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Tesla has changed the definition of full self-driving completely abandoning their promise of unsupervised

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autonomous driving. We're talking about that later. What else we got this week?

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Nintendo gets another video game patent and the whole internet loved that.

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No, no, they didn't. Also for the people that said that the AI summary things were definitely not doing anything

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to search. Google has now admitted that the open web is in rapid decline.

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Yeah, rapid decline, not just regular decline, the rapidest of declines.

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Cool. Nice. Awesome.

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Don't you love when our corporate overlords confirm what we knew all along?

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Yeah. Yeah.

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The show today is brought to you by Proton, Vessi, Squarespace, and Delta Hub.

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We're going to, we're going to spread them out a little bit though.

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Kind of sprinkle up here and there.

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We need more like the product placement ones.

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We need to just go full like- Sure.

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We could wear like Nike headbands and stuff.

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What's that movie? Oh man. That movie.

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With Ricky Bobby. Remlins. No, not Ricky Bobby.

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The music one. The music movie.

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La La Land. Was it also comedy? What the f*** are you talking about?

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It was a comedy. I am like- Walk hard?

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No, no. I have no details for anyone.

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You're a great- Great world. There we go.

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Oh my God. The music one. With like the Pizza Hut breaking the fourth wall talking right to camera.

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You know that every movie has music in it, right?

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Whack the mic. I'm sorry. You know-

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No, I meant Wayne's World.

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We knew that so tired he's kind of drunk Linus was fun.

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But I don't think we knew that so tired he's kind of drunk Luke was this fun.

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You're stupid today.

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So for context, I started my journey home at-

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I think it was like 4pm Thursday Bulgarian time.

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Yes. And I have been on various forms- That means something to me.

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Of transportation ever since then. Perhaps planes, trains, and automobiles.

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Another great movie with music in it.

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Three planes, three trains, two Ubers, and one Emma picking me up from the airport.

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That was the chain of events that had to get me home.

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And two of the planes were late.

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Nice. I think every single train was late.

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Two of them were late by like 50 minutes. The only answer is gamer plane and gamer train.

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I couldn't need it all. And gamer fire truck.

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You have the gamer van already. We've got the fire truck, bro. And the fire truck.

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We've got the fire truck. Okay, cool. That's the only answer.

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So road is already taken care of. Yep.

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Okay, where are we? Apple product launch. Apple is launching a ton of new products on September 19th.

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They are all getting their new square sensor center stage front cam.

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Okay. I swear. I don't know if I ever said it in a video or if I ever told you, but I totally thought

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of this idea like ages ago. Did I ever talk to you about the idea of having a square sensor so that you could just like

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shoot landscape like this or so that you could just shoot square and then you could like

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crop it later and it could just have safe zones on it or whatever. I don't know when you had that idea, but I remember this vaguely.

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I don't even care who had the idea first.

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I love that Apple is doing this. So their new selfie cams on the iPhone 17 lineup just allow you to go, oh yeah, I'm taking

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a vertical selfie. My friends who are paid by me are now nearby.

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They don't want to get that close right now apparently. Oh, what? Yeah, there we go.

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Boom. It'll just expand the frame and use additional sensor in order to fit them.

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Okay. It's powered by a high Apple intelligence, which means it will probably suck for a bit.

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Yeah. I wonder what the AI is doing. Hopefully not much.

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Hopefully very little. Yeah.

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And if it's doing very, if all it's doing is recognizing human faces, which then

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sure. Realistically machine learning has been pretty good at for a minute or two.

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Very effective. Then I see that as just an outstanding feature.

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They all get the new ceramic shield to front glass. I mean, Apple's front glass has been for a while now.

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Original ceramic shield was already awesome. This new one, I mean, presumably could only be better, but that's not necessarily true

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because we have seen cases where from one iteration of Corning Gorilla Glass to another,

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sometimes there are trade-offs. Like you gain some drop resistance, but you lose some scratch resistance and so on and

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so forth. They also, all, all the new iPhones start with 256 gigs of storage and even the base

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iPhone 17 is now 120 flippin' hertz on the display.

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That's pretty sick. That brings them up to speed with cheap Android phones from years ago, but what it also does

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if we can sort of put away the snarky hat for a minute is it takes away the obstacles

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that many iPhone upgraders who are sitting there going, okay, when are they going to

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do it? When are they going to do it? When are they going to do it?

00:20:40.320 --> 00:20:44.040
I want those features that have been highlights of the Pro series, but I want them on the

00:20:44.040 --> 00:20:52.000
regular iPhone because I don't want to spend $2,000 US on the top spec iPhone 17 Pro Max,

00:20:52.000 --> 00:20:55.200
I think is two grand. What a name.

00:20:55.200 --> 00:20:58.720
That's two terabytes of storage in it. That is absurd.

00:20:58.720 --> 00:21:02.280
The lineup just honestly looks really good. The only thing-

00:21:02.280 --> 00:21:07.520
This, like, base model iPhone 17, though, like, actually looks pretty killer.

00:21:07.520 --> 00:21:13.760
I mean, Apple's SoCs have been just plain better for a very long time at this point.

00:21:13.760 --> 00:21:20.360
Eight gigs of RAM is plenty for iOS, even if we realistically do need more to run Android

00:21:20.360 --> 00:21:25.920
really smoothly with heavy task switching, 6.3-inch display, 48 megapixels, so, yeah,

00:21:25.920 --> 00:21:29.040
there's two 48 megapixel sensors on the back personally.

00:21:29.040 --> 00:21:37.480
Ah, man. Oh, this is actually a tough one. I was about to say I don't use my telephoto much, but the times I use it, boy, do I ever

00:21:37.480 --> 00:21:41.760
like it. So I shouldn't even say the times I use it because I don't have a telephoto.

00:21:41.760 --> 00:21:48.260
I'm running a Pixel 9a right now, but Yvonne on her S23 Ultra had a really great telephoto,

00:21:48.260 --> 00:21:52.220
and if we were at a kid's concert or whatever, her phone was the only one of ours that was

00:21:52.220 --> 00:21:58.180
even remotely useful. So having a telephoto lens when you need it can be pretty nice.

00:21:58.180 --> 00:22:01.980
Up to 30 hours of video playback, $800.

00:22:01.980 --> 00:22:04.980
That's a lot of money. It is a lot of money. That's a lot of money.

00:22:04.980 --> 00:22:09.980
That's a lot of money. But it is the current gen phone, which gets one more year of product support compared to

00:22:09.980 --> 00:22:15.920
if you buy a last gen one for less, and it's not more than last year.

00:22:15.920 --> 00:22:19.520
It's the same starting price as last year, but we get a 120 Hertz display.

00:22:19.520 --> 00:22:29.720
We get more storage. So I'm not even in a world where basically everything is going up in price.

00:22:29.720 --> 00:22:33.080
Yeah, it's like the sequel to Waterworld.

00:22:33.080 --> 00:22:42.600
It's just inflation world. Starring Kevin Costner, whose sense of self-importance has inflated at the same level of as money

00:22:42.600 --> 00:22:45.640
over the last 30 years.

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To be clear, I don't hate Kevin Costner. I just think he seems to think he's a lot more relevant than he is.

00:22:54.200 --> 00:22:59.960
That's all. I have no idea. I would watch Waterworld too though.

00:22:59.960 --> 00:23:06.920
He starred in one super amazing film, Dances with Wolves, that I watched as a child and

00:23:06.920 --> 00:23:13.880
didn't understand because I was a kid, and then he was in that movie with Ashton Kutcher

00:23:13.880 --> 00:23:17.320
that I thought was solidly okay. What movie is that?

00:23:17.320 --> 00:23:22.360
I don't remember. It involved like rescuing people, I think, and a helicopter.

00:23:22.360 --> 00:23:25.360
Can't remember.

00:23:25.360 --> 00:23:30.840
Scrappy D.P. says he wants to own Montana. That wouldn't even necessarily surprise me that much.

00:23:30.840 --> 00:23:35.360
The Guardian. The Guardian, yeah, I found it. Oh, this guy.

00:23:35.360 --> 00:23:41.160
Oh, this guy. He says about Kevin Costner. How do you avoid?

00:23:41.160 --> 00:23:45.840
I think the people genuinely want to know. How do you avoid knowing about celebrities?

00:23:45.840 --> 00:23:48.960
I just don't care.

00:23:48.960 --> 00:23:52.240
I just like deeply don't care. But they're everywhere.

00:23:52.240 --> 00:23:58.400
I think that's why though, is I have a rather intense level of lack of care.

00:23:58.400 --> 00:24:01.560
I'll recognize her face a little bit.

00:24:01.560 --> 00:24:04.600
But like, I don't know. Right, so you know which one is Kevin Costner, right?

00:24:04.600 --> 00:24:08.280
Yeah. So you know who Ashton Kutcher is then?

00:24:08.280 --> 00:24:11.280
In the photo. Yeah. Oh man.

00:24:11.280 --> 00:24:18.760
Anyway. I forgot. And then I was like, oh yeah, he did that TV show, that 70 show or whatever.

00:24:18.760 --> 00:24:21.760
He's on there, right? Yeah. Yeah.

00:24:21.760 --> 00:24:24.760
Him and the rapist. The rapist. Oh yeah, you don't know about that?

00:24:24.760 --> 00:24:27.760
No. Yeah. See.

00:24:27.760 --> 00:24:30.760
Yeah, it was the whole thing. I don't follow. Yeah, don't worry about it.

00:24:30.760 --> 00:24:39.920
Yep. So, the most controversial new iPhone is of course, the iPhone Air.

00:24:39.920 --> 00:24:47.240
It uses the A19 Pro processor, so it uses the same chip as the 17 Pro.

00:24:47.240 --> 00:24:51.160
It has 12 gigs of RAM like the 17 Pro.

00:24:51.160 --> 00:24:58.480
It has a 6.5 inch display, which is kind of in between the 17 Pro and the 17 Pro Max.

00:24:58.480 --> 00:25:07.100
But it does give up some things. So it has a 48 megapixel single main camera rather than having multiple shooters.

00:25:07.100 --> 00:25:13.500
It has the new C1X modem, which we don't know if that's giving something up or gaining

00:25:13.500 --> 00:25:19.980
something. Yeah, we'll see. If I had to guess, I'd say that, and I could 100% be wrong about this.

00:25:19.980 --> 00:25:24.900
If I had to guess, I'd say the C1X is super efficient, but maybe compromises somewhere

00:25:24.900 --> 00:25:28.860
else where the full-size phones with their full-size batteries didn't do.

00:25:28.860 --> 00:25:34.660
As you say, if it was just raw better, I feel like they would put it on other ones. But I also feel like this is kind of like an experimental device to a certain degree.

00:25:34.660 --> 00:25:41.060
It is eSIM only and only boasts 27 hours of video playback rather than 30 for the iPhone

00:25:41.060 --> 00:25:51.700
17, 33 for the 17 Pro, and a whopping 39 hours for the 17 Pro Max.

00:25:51.700 --> 00:25:59.180
There are some extra benefits, maybe. So this was something that is always fun to watch Apple do.

00:25:59.180 --> 00:26:03.980
You remember when they went unapologetically plastic and then they were like, actually

00:26:04.020 --> 00:26:08.580
fuck plastic, plastic's fucking stupid, like immediately after that and just pretended that

00:26:08.580 --> 00:26:11.580
never happened? Oh, yeah. Yeah, you remember that.

00:26:11.580 --> 00:26:19.220
Okay. So do you remember how on their Pro models, Apple leaned super hard into titanium, iPhone's

00:26:19.220 --> 00:26:25.500
titanium, you know, like their titanium?

00:26:25.500 --> 00:26:30.100
Yeah. Okay. So that happened.

00:26:30.100 --> 00:26:40.220
And then, and then the new iPhone 17 Pro and Pro Max came out, it's a song.

00:26:40.220 --> 00:26:43.220
Okay. What song is that? It's called Titanium.

00:26:43.220 --> 00:26:47.700
All right. That makes sense, to be honest. David Guena or Gueta or whatever it is.

00:26:47.700 --> 00:26:53.220
See, I don't know. Like I just, okay, but let's back up again.

00:26:53.220 --> 00:26:56.100
You see images and read words, right? Oh, right.

00:26:57.100 --> 00:27:08.300
Dyslexic. See, like I can't, I can't not know what a song is called or who it's by because it

00:27:08.300 --> 00:27:11.900
just, like it shows up and I read it. Okay.

00:27:11.900 --> 00:27:17.420
But I just, I don't think I've listened to that song. I know some songs. There's no way you've not heard this song.

00:27:17.420 --> 00:27:22.100
There's actually, it's completely impossible that you have never heard this song.

00:27:22.100 --> 00:27:26.500
Hold on. And then we're going to get more ad blog than we did from you talking about the guy on

00:27:26.500 --> 00:27:29.500
72. It's worth it. I don't even care.

00:27:29.500 --> 00:27:32.500
Okay. Yeah. Well, yeah.

00:27:32.500 --> 00:27:38.500
Yeah. Anyway, what are we supposed to be talking about?

00:27:38.500 --> 00:27:42.620
You like all the like top 40 slop stuff. I don't listen to it that much.

00:27:42.620 --> 00:27:45.900
You just called Sia slop. Sia?

00:27:45.900 --> 00:27:49.260
That's extremely disrespectful. Who's Sia?

00:27:49.260 --> 00:27:52.820
It doesn't matter.

00:27:52.820 --> 00:27:59.820
She was the, you know, song, whatever, whatever on My Little Pony and she's great.

00:27:59.820 --> 00:28:02.820
Okay. I don't, I don't remember her. Sure.

00:28:02.820 --> 00:28:10.500
But she's on My Little Pony. Anyway. So the point out, man, chat that you guys are, you guys are rough.

00:28:10.500 --> 00:28:14.580
Someone's like, I, I loved Sia, loved her music. Someone's like, she's still alive.

00:28:14.580 --> 00:28:17.580
Guys. Okay. You know what?

00:28:17.580 --> 00:28:23.340
It's fine. They leaned super heavily into titanium for their marketing for their pro phones.

00:28:23.340 --> 00:28:29.540
Yeah. And then this time around, they leaned super hard into aluminum.

00:28:29.540 --> 00:28:36.300
They were all like, dude, aluminum has so much thermal performance.

00:28:36.300 --> 00:28:39.940
It's like so much better than titanium.

00:28:39.940 --> 00:28:43.900
Aluminum is great. You guys are going to love it. Aluminum.

00:28:43.900 --> 00:28:48.460
Interesting. Oh, by the way, on the iPhone air, it's titanium. I was just going to say the air is titanium.

00:28:48.460 --> 00:28:56.220
And I'm just, I'm kind of sitting here going like, can Apple just, can they just, can they

00:28:56.220 --> 00:29:04.940
get some consistency? Can they, can they please get some consistency in their marketing for these materials?

00:29:04.940 --> 00:29:11.340
Can you just, can you just say, we put titanium on the pro phones before because it's really

00:29:11.340 --> 00:29:16.780
shiny and hard glistening even, you might say, right?

00:29:16.780 --> 00:29:21.380
And then can you just say, you know, aluminum's still good.

00:29:21.380 --> 00:29:25.740
Like that would have been fine too, but this titanium, it has a nice finish and it's super

00:29:25.740 --> 00:29:33.020
shiny. Like if you just told us exactly what it was and you didn't wank it off so hard in the

00:29:33.020 --> 00:29:38.100
first place, then it wouldn't be so embarrassing every time you have to backtrack and use a

00:29:38.100 --> 00:29:41.100
different material.

00:29:41.100 --> 00:29:46.340
So yeah, the iPhone air uses titanium presumably because it is so flipping thin.

00:29:46.340 --> 00:29:50.860
I don't know whoops, how it's even possible that my notes don't include the thickness.

00:29:50.860 --> 00:30:00.260
I believe it's 5.4 millimeters though, 5.64 millimeters.

00:30:00.260 --> 00:30:03.380
That is nuts.

00:30:03.380 --> 00:30:08.980
That is wild. That is like, I can't wait to get it in my hands.

00:30:08.980 --> 00:30:13.020
Finally I'll have a phone that fits. Does it feel whack that it has an enormous camera bump that's like thicker than the

00:30:13.020 --> 00:30:19.340
phone? I mean, it's no different, yes, yes.

00:30:19.340 --> 00:30:26.140
And I can see why it's a controversial device. I can see why it's really polarizing, but I do think that there are going to be people

00:30:26.140 --> 00:30:31.300
that it appeals to and I'm excited just to sort of marvel at the thinness.

00:30:31.300 --> 00:30:35.580
It looks super cool. I mean, it's not- Some of the phone.

00:30:35.580 --> 00:30:41.540
Yes. Yes, that's fair. Why don't they just make like half of it two mils thick and go like world's finished

00:30:41.540 --> 00:30:47.340
phone and then most of it is just that big? Why don't you just join the podcast if you're going to talk all the time?

00:30:47.340 --> 00:30:53.700
Shut up. Technically, that's not what I said.

00:30:53.700 --> 00:30:57.540
Technically I invited him to join the podcast. Let the record show. You did so aggressively though.

00:30:57.540 --> 00:31:00.740
It wasn't very inviting. That's just how I talk to people. You invited someone-

00:31:00.740 --> 00:31:05.060
It's true. Look, I really like being friends with you.

00:31:05.060 --> 00:31:08.220
I do believe that.

00:31:08.220 --> 00:31:18.740
It's something I value. Come over tomorrow.

00:31:18.740 --> 00:31:25.180
Okay, I'm excited to check it out.

00:31:25.180 --> 00:31:32.260
I'm a little less excited about the 17 Pro and the 17 Pro Max, but they are far from

00:31:32.260 --> 00:31:40.300
the biggest disappointment. I think the biggest disappointment broadly in the tech community is where the fuck is

00:31:40.300 --> 00:31:44.700
a replacement for the mini. We haven't gotten a new mini since what was it?

00:31:44.700 --> 00:31:47.820
12 or 13. Dan, do you remember? Does anyone know?

00:31:47.820 --> 00:31:51.220
Let me know in the chat. I believe it was either iPhone 12 or 13 generation.

00:31:51.220 --> 00:31:55.100
13. So it's been four freaking years.

00:31:55.100 --> 00:32:02.060
People who are still rocking minis- I thought people liked it too. Andrew in the camera department loves his mini and he's just like, yep, it's getting a little

00:32:02.060 --> 00:32:07.220
long in the tooth. Any time now, Apple, give me a new mini.

00:32:07.220 --> 00:32:12.860
And personally, even though that one is sort of more broadly upsetting to people, I'm actually

00:32:12.860 --> 00:32:19.660
bummed that the iPhone 17 Plus isn't a thing. Because I thought the 16 Plus was a great middle ground.

00:32:19.660 --> 00:32:24.780
It gave me the bigger screen that I wanted, but it didn't give me any of the paying a

00:32:24.780 --> 00:32:29.860
couple hundred US extra dollars for things that I don't really need that the Pro had.

00:32:29.860 --> 00:32:35.620
So if there was a 17 Plus, that would honestly be the one that I would be most interested

00:32:35.620 --> 00:32:40.780
in this generation, especially now that it has 120 Hertz refresh rate.

00:32:40.780 --> 00:32:45.860
And yeah, that's probably the only thing that I was really missing out on with the 16 Plus

00:32:45.860 --> 00:32:51.620
when I did my daily driver challenge. So we're actually going to mix up the daily driver challenge this time around.

00:32:51.620 --> 00:32:56.540
The title of WAN Show today is I bought my iPhone and I did, but I bought all three.

00:32:56.540 --> 00:33:01.660
And so what I'm going to do is I'm going to use all the pockets in our awesome cargo

00:33:01.660 --> 00:33:06.380
pants from lttstore.com and I'm going to carry them all.

00:33:06.380 --> 00:33:10.820
And I'm going to see which one I gravitate toward.

00:33:10.820 --> 00:33:18.900
So we'll do all the unboxings on ShortCircuit. And then basically I'm going to see which one do I actually enjoy using the most.

00:33:18.900 --> 00:33:22.300
Interesting. Yeah. I literally don't know.

00:33:22.300 --> 00:33:27.740
I don't know if the air is going to entice me.

00:33:27.740 --> 00:33:31.280
Could you dupe your SIM? Okay.

00:33:31.280 --> 00:33:36.140
So the air is eSIM only. That's interesting. So theoretically I believe yes.

00:33:36.140 --> 00:33:43.380
But generally speaking, I use my cellular connection almost not at all.

00:33:43.380 --> 00:33:49.380
And what I've been doing over the last little while actually because I've had more issues

00:33:49.380 --> 00:33:52.740
with Graphi and OS. Okay.

00:33:52.740 --> 00:33:57.740
That doesn't mean that you shouldn't use it. It just means that I think I'm done with it.

00:33:57.740 --> 00:34:01.940
I might be kind of screwed anyways. I've been trying to diagnose it over the last couple of days.

00:34:01.940 --> 00:34:07.380
Well, I mean, I might be able to just repair it. I don't know. But the USB port on my phone might be like super dying.

00:34:07.380 --> 00:34:10.380
Bummer. Yeah. I mean, do you need it?

00:34:10.380 --> 00:34:13.380
Fireless charging? Oh. Like, I don't know.

00:34:13.380 --> 00:34:16.380
Cloud sync? I have literally zero of those.

00:34:16.380 --> 00:34:18.380
I mean. I can get some.

00:34:19.380 --> 00:34:22.380
There's this thing. I could join the new age. Money.

00:34:22.380 --> 00:34:25.380
It can be exchanged for goods and services like it says. I'd prefer to not.

00:34:25.380 --> 00:34:28.380
Yeah. I know. I know.

00:34:28.380 --> 00:34:35.380
Oh my God. Do you know how many people think that you are destitutely poor because of the way that...

00:34:35.380 --> 00:34:38.380
I'm doing fine. I know. I know.

00:34:38.380 --> 00:34:39.380
They don't.

00:34:42.380 --> 00:34:45.380
I don't mind plugging something in. I don't know.

00:34:45.380 --> 00:34:49.380
This doesn't feel like a... I actually plug in everything too.

00:34:49.380 --> 00:34:52.380
Yeah. Like, I don't know. I do find...

00:34:56.380 --> 00:34:59.380
Some of the, like, Mag... What is the name of it on Android?

00:34:59.380 --> 00:35:02.380
Because MagSafe for iPhone, right? Yeah.

00:35:02.380 --> 00:35:05.380
I don't know. Whatever the magnetic one is. MagSafe ripoff.

00:35:05.380 --> 00:35:08.380
Sure. That is kind of neat in some applications.

00:35:08.380 --> 00:35:11.380
Yeah, it is. I could see that. Yeah.

00:35:11.380 --> 00:35:16.380
It's great for the car. Yes. But almost nowhere that I would actually have my phone.

00:35:16.380 --> 00:35:19.380
So, like, I haven't really cared. I'm going to sleep.

00:35:19.380 --> 00:35:22.380
I can plug my phone in. It's really not a big deal. Honestly, I'm the same.

00:35:22.380 --> 00:35:31.380
Like, Apple... So many of the Apple user reasons why I should accept nothing less than an iPhone.

00:35:31.380 --> 00:35:34.380
They don't resonate with me and MagSafe is definitely one of them.

00:35:34.380 --> 00:35:40.380
I have Android Auto and CarPlay in my car, so I just put my phone down or I just leave it in my pocket.

00:35:40.380 --> 00:35:44.380
It's wireless in both of our main family vehicles now.

00:35:44.380 --> 00:35:52.380
So, I don't need to charge my car. Man, battery life on the Pixel 9a and on the latest iPhones is, like, so good.

00:35:52.380 --> 00:35:55.380
I'm at 75%. Pixel... Yeah.

00:35:55.380 --> 00:35:59.380
The 9a specifically has just flipping outstanding battery life.

00:35:59.380 --> 00:36:04.380
I've heard great things about the 9a specifically from, like, a ton of people.

00:36:04.380 --> 00:36:07.380
Well, it is not a perfect phone.

00:36:07.380 --> 00:36:10.380
No. But the battery life is great. It's outstanding.

00:36:10.380 --> 00:36:13.380
That's one of the things... Best I've ever seen on an Android. Okay.

00:36:13.380 --> 00:36:17.380
What are your downsides? Because I care about very little battery life these days.

00:36:17.380 --> 00:36:21.380
It's just kind of a butt head sometimes. It's just kind of, like, dumb sometimes.

00:36:21.380 --> 00:36:24.380
Like, I'll go to do... Is that just a pixel? Okay, there.

00:36:24.380 --> 00:36:27.380
I held down for voice and it's like, oops, something went wrong.

00:36:27.380 --> 00:36:31.380
And it's like, why? Why do you just randomly do that a lot of the time?

00:36:31.380 --> 00:36:34.380
It's just not perfect. That's all.

00:36:34.380 --> 00:36:37.380
And whenever I'm recommending... It sounds like it might just be pixel issues.

00:36:37.380 --> 00:36:44.380
Well, it might be. It might also be that I'm using SwiftKey and, you know, someone, no one at any point,

00:36:44.380 --> 00:36:48.380
ever tried SwiftKey on a pixel and noticed, oh, hey, this doesn't work.

00:36:48.380 --> 00:36:55.380
We should probably work with our partner, Microsoft and or Google to address it, like, whatever.

00:36:55.380 --> 00:37:00.380
So I just... It's not perfect. I do get some buggy behavior, so make of that what you will.

00:37:00.380 --> 00:37:04.380
But the battery life is great. Back to GraphiNOS for a second.

00:37:04.380 --> 00:37:07.380
Oh. Oh, no.

00:37:07.380 --> 00:37:11.380
I just...

00:37:11.380 --> 00:37:16.380
It's really cool. And my God, is it ever snappy?

00:37:16.380 --> 00:37:20.380
Like, it's so responsive. Battery life also outstanding.

00:37:20.380 --> 00:37:26.380
Like, this is the one I've got my SIM in right now, and it's at 99% today.

00:37:26.380 --> 00:37:29.380
And I have used it today, but very little.

00:37:29.380 --> 00:37:35.380
But I have used it. And it's like, just at idle, it like sips power.

00:37:35.380 --> 00:37:42.380
And it's just... It's everything that a pixel already was, but like, it's more secure.

00:37:42.380 --> 00:37:47.380
And it's kind of snappier and more responsive.

00:37:47.380 --> 00:37:52.380
It's just that when you go to do something new that you haven't done before,

00:37:52.380 --> 00:37:55.380
like say, for example, same thing.

00:37:55.380 --> 00:37:59.380
If I wanted to use voice dictation in order to do something,

00:37:59.380 --> 00:38:04.380
I might have to hold this button where it will say voice typing.

00:38:04.380 --> 00:38:07.380
Voice input, you must download and install Google voice search.

00:38:07.380 --> 00:38:13.380
Download. It takes me to Google by Google LLC, and it's installed.

00:38:13.380 --> 00:38:16.380
So I click... I don't know.

00:38:16.380 --> 00:38:22.380
I go back, and then I try again, and then it download.

00:38:22.380 --> 00:38:25.380
Oh, no, not that. Okay, hold on. Wait, there's a thing in between.

00:38:25.380 --> 00:38:28.380
Oh, I'll try the download there. No, wait, that just brings me back here.

00:38:28.380 --> 00:38:35.380
And I could solve this. I'm sure I could solve this. I mean, I have a Graphene OS team member in my Discord that I can.

00:38:35.380 --> 00:38:42.380
So it's like a Linux-ism. I probably will ask how to solve this, but it takes a special sort of person

00:38:42.380 --> 00:38:48.380
to feel like fucking solving something like that instead of just using their phone.

00:38:48.380 --> 00:38:56.380
And you know what? Sometimes I'm that kind of person, but for my phone, I don't think I am,

00:38:56.380 --> 00:38:59.380
at least not anymore, at least not right now.

00:38:59.380 --> 00:39:05.380
And for me, where my privacy is quite compromised already,

00:39:05.380 --> 00:39:08.380
which isn't to say that this is the right answer for you.

00:39:08.380 --> 00:39:11.380
Yeah. I just...

00:39:11.380 --> 00:39:14.380
I'm not sure if I...

00:39:14.380 --> 00:39:17.380
Yeah, I'm not sure if I... I'm not sure it's worth the work for you, specifically.

00:39:17.380 --> 00:39:21.380
...feel like it right now. Because remember, too, the issues that I switch phones all the time.

00:39:21.380 --> 00:39:26.380
I can't have, like, it be a hassle every time I go to do something on...

00:39:26.380 --> 00:39:29.380
For hardware reviewer Linus, it might not be...

00:39:29.380 --> 00:39:34.380
Like, I've got at least... I still haven't done the Fold 7 because I've been putting it off

00:39:34.380 --> 00:39:40.380
because I've been kind of forcing myself to wade through this sort of Graphino-esque thing.

00:39:40.380 --> 00:39:44.380
And I think this is it.

00:39:44.380 --> 00:39:46.380
What?

00:39:49.380 --> 00:39:52.380
I think this is it. You think what's it?

00:39:52.380 --> 00:39:56.380
This is it. This. Oh, is this your iPhone sets?

00:39:56.380 --> 00:39:59.380
Or what? Sorry, what are you doing? Oh, you're popping your SIM out?

00:39:59.380 --> 00:40:02.380
Yep. I've had the SIM in the Graphino-esque.

00:40:02.380 --> 00:40:08.380
You started it. I think this is it. And to be clear, like, we'll give it a fair shake.

00:40:08.380 --> 00:40:12.380
Jordan's going to be working on the video with me, so it'll be partly like my notes.

00:40:12.380 --> 00:40:19.380
Like he already said, I'm just going to reiterate here. Just because it might not be for Linus has nothing to do with it being for you or not.

00:40:19.380 --> 00:40:23.380
He is a very unique user of phones.

00:40:23.380 --> 00:40:28.380
It is extremely probable that his style is not yours.

00:40:28.380 --> 00:40:32.380
And there are things that I enjoyed about it a lot.

00:40:32.380 --> 00:40:37.380
I just think it's not right for me at this moment.

00:40:37.380 --> 00:40:41.380
Have you thought about trying Linea Joess as well?

00:40:41.380 --> 00:40:46.380
Because I was thinking it could be interesting to look at your, like, Note 9 with Linea Joess or something.

00:40:46.380 --> 00:40:51.380
I wouldn't mind it. I wouldn't mind giving it a shot.

00:40:51.380 --> 00:41:05.380
I think that for me, the well-maintained with tens of millions install base androids already have a lot of problems with interoperability.

00:41:05.380 --> 00:41:14.380
And the issue with Android generally is not the everyday stuff.

00:41:14.380 --> 00:41:17.380
It's the edge cases.

00:41:17.380 --> 00:41:24.380
And it's the infinite customizability is sort of both its greatest strengths and its greatest weakness.

00:41:24.380 --> 00:41:31.380
Like one of the things that irritated me about my Graphino S Pixel 9a, not to be confused with my other Pixel 9a,

00:41:31.380 --> 00:41:35.380
is screenshot sharing just kind of blows.

00:41:35.380 --> 00:41:38.380
And I could go find a third-party tool for that.

00:41:38.380 --> 00:41:42.380
But like as it is right now, right? What's your flow for screenshot sharing?

00:41:42.380 --> 00:41:48.380
When I grab a screenshot, okay, so I go to share and then, okay, I go to edit.

00:41:48.380 --> 00:41:53.380
I'm just a boomer. And then I, okay, so now I can crop, right?

00:41:53.380 --> 00:41:58.380
So I'm in the interface where I can like crop and do stuff.

00:41:58.380 --> 00:42:01.380
Where the f**k is my share button?

00:42:01.380 --> 00:42:04.380
There's no share button in this interface.

00:42:04.380 --> 00:42:11.380
So on my Pixel that is running Pixel OS, I take my screenshot, I go to share.

00:42:11.380 --> 00:42:19.380
And then if I want to edit it, I can like edit and then I can share it immediately because that was what I intended to do.

00:42:19.380 --> 00:42:24.380
So there was more consideration for the user intent.

00:42:24.380 --> 00:42:31.380
And I can obviously save and then go share this, but it's an unnecessary extra step.

00:42:31.380 --> 00:42:36.380
And why? How about I just don't?

00:42:36.380 --> 00:42:42.380
The other thing is that you can share it and then it just like won't save to your gallery because I don't want this forever.

00:42:42.380 --> 00:42:46.380
Or I can save it and share it. I have the option as part of that flow on here.

00:42:46.380 --> 00:42:49.380
Okay. And so yeah. The option is cool.

00:42:49.380 --> 00:42:52.380
Any of this stuff can be fixed.

00:42:52.380 --> 00:43:01.380
But I personally, as someone who takes a lot of screenshots, does a lot of quick markup and shares things with a lot of people,

00:43:01.380 --> 00:43:05.380
really appreciate quick features for cropping, marking up.

00:43:05.380 --> 00:43:12.380
Like one thing that drives me crazy on the Pixel is that the default text color or the default color of scribbles is blue.

00:43:12.380 --> 00:43:15.380
And there doesn't appear to be an obvious way to change it.

00:43:15.380 --> 00:43:24.380
Why would the default be blue? Markup, like whatever the word I'm looking for, standard markup color is red.

00:43:24.380 --> 00:43:30.380
So it should probably just be red. You're probably just trying to be trendy and cool or something.

00:43:30.380 --> 00:43:35.380
I don't know. I don't know what you're trying to accomplish here, but maybe, and maybe there is a way to change the default,

00:43:35.380 --> 00:43:40.380
but I would really, I would really rather that it was red as my default markup color.

00:43:40.380 --> 00:43:51.380
And so strong markup tools and then easy access to like a really good sharing menu that's really smart about who it recommends to me.

00:43:51.380 --> 00:43:58.380
It means a lot to me. I don't use that menu because I find that even on proper Android, it is so dumb.

00:43:58.380 --> 00:44:03.380
Yeah. I find it a lot faster to not use that menu.

00:44:03.380 --> 00:44:06.380
Probably 60% of the time I send the screenshot to anyone.

00:44:06.380 --> 00:44:11.380
It's to Yvonne in WhatsApp, but often she will fall off the most recent.

00:44:11.380 --> 00:44:18.380
Which is crazy. Which is, it seems like the kind of thing that Google could more usefully apply AI to.

00:44:18.380 --> 00:44:27.380
Who am I more likely to be sending this to? Some person that I have texted once in the last six months or my wife who I often share things to.

00:44:27.380 --> 00:44:30.380
Anyway, we've gotten way off the rails here.

00:44:30.380 --> 00:44:33.380
Let's talk about AirPods Pro 3.

00:44:35.380 --> 00:44:38.380
These make me sad and I'll explain why after we go through it.

00:44:38.380 --> 00:44:42.380
Up to two times active noise canceling performance.

00:44:42.380 --> 00:44:50.380
Now, I don't know exactly what that means because you got to remember that like decibels are not a linear measure.

00:44:50.380 --> 00:45:00.380
And our perceived loudness of sounds is highly contextual depending on what else is going on around us.

00:45:00.380 --> 00:45:04.380
So what 2X means, I don't know.

00:45:04.380 --> 00:45:16.380
But what I do know is that the performance, comfort, and especially the natural soundingness of the AirPods Pro 2s is already awesome.

00:45:16.380 --> 00:45:21.380
And if these are that but more better, I am stoked.

00:45:21.380 --> 00:45:28.380
In other news, the earphones are even smaller, which as someone who sleeps with my AirPods Pro 2s in every night,

00:45:28.380 --> 00:45:37.380
I actually own two pairs because I've been waking up in the middle of the night so much that I'll like put in my ones that are charged now.

00:45:37.380 --> 00:45:41.380
Oh, did I mention that they're claiming two more hours of battery?

00:45:41.380 --> 00:45:47.380
So that would be nice. Which is great. Because it means that it's more likely that I will get a longer uninterrupted sleep.

00:45:47.380 --> 00:45:51.380
I have a weird take, but... Oh, you use AirPods 4s.

00:45:51.380 --> 00:45:55.380
Yeah. Okay. But like the ones without the earrings.

00:45:55.380 --> 00:45:58.380
Yeah, that's the AirPods 4s. Sure, yeah.

00:45:58.380 --> 00:46:01.380
Making it clear to people that might not know the model differentiation. Without the silicone tips.

00:46:01.380 --> 00:46:07.380
Yeah. Yeah. These are shorter now than the 3s were or some other previous version.

00:46:07.380 --> 00:46:13.380
Yeah, the stems. I do this when I don't currently want them in my ear.

00:46:13.380 --> 00:46:18.380
That is insane. This was a lot easier to do when they were longer.

00:46:18.380 --> 00:46:22.380
That is actually unhinged. I can stash them here.

00:46:22.380 --> 00:46:26.380
Literally, nobody agrees with you. They'll legitimately stay there for like...

00:46:26.380 --> 00:46:30.380
They love siding with you instead of me, but this is a step too far.

00:46:30.380 --> 00:46:37.380
They will stay there, no problem. Our worksman says, Luke is not based.

00:46:37.380 --> 00:46:40.380
I think he is based because he's a turkey.

00:46:40.380 --> 00:46:43.380
I'm really surprised how negative people react to that.

00:46:43.380 --> 00:46:47.380
Dude, that is turkey behavior. Why?

00:46:47.380 --> 00:46:51.380
This is one of those things where if I have to explain it, you're not capable of understanding

00:46:51.380 --> 00:46:54.380
it. I don't get it though, why? Explain it.

00:46:54.380 --> 00:46:57.380
Explain it anyways. Try me. Okay, the risk of loss.

00:46:57.380 --> 00:47:00.380
Never lost any. It's super high. Never lost any.

00:47:00.380 --> 00:47:06.980
I didn't say that you will lose it. I said the risk of loss. I can't do it with these, but with the ones that had the longer stem, I could like lay

00:47:06.980 --> 00:47:11.980
down and do bench presses with them stashed there and they would stay no matter what.

00:47:11.980 --> 00:47:16.980
You're an actual sociopath. That's the only explanation.

00:47:16.980 --> 00:47:20.980
I've never lost one that way. I've done it so much.

00:47:20.980 --> 00:47:23.980
Kifricks said... Someone just tried and said, wow, it actually stays on quite well.

00:47:23.980 --> 00:47:27.980
Yeah, it does. Kifricks said, that's not so bad.

00:47:27.980 --> 00:47:31.980
Jade De Duval says, that's actually insane.

00:47:32.980 --> 00:47:37.980
You know what? At the very least, I can say that's a polarizing choice.

00:47:37.980 --> 00:47:40.980
Let's get back to the AirPods Pro 3's.

00:47:40.980 --> 00:47:42.980
It makes me sick.

00:47:44.980 --> 00:47:51.980
Everyone's going to unsubscribe. Are there any internal transfers for positions available?

00:47:51.980 --> 00:47:57.980
You know I do this. I've done this in the gym with you.

00:47:58.980 --> 00:48:05.980
In other news, the AirPods Pro 3's are getting a new fifth size of ear tip, a double XS,

00:48:05.980 --> 00:48:08.980
which is going to be great for kids.

00:48:08.980 --> 00:48:12.980
These are like... Okay, hold on. Oh my God, we're coming back to this.

00:48:12.980 --> 00:48:17.980
That's not how I wear them. That's how I stash them if I'm not currently using them.

00:48:17.980 --> 00:48:20.980
If I need to take it out of my ear to listen to someone, I'll put it there.

00:48:20.980 --> 00:48:24.980
I feel like you're trapped in the me arguing with people about American cheese loop right now.

00:48:24.980 --> 00:48:28.980
One person is going to say something like that, and then you're going to respond to it,

00:48:28.980 --> 00:48:34.980
and then everyone else is going to hear only where I, them, and they're going to run with it.

00:48:34.980 --> 00:48:38.980
And then you're going to be stuck in this loop where all you ever said was that

00:48:38.980 --> 00:48:43.980
not American cheese, regular cheese, is perfectly meltable,

00:48:43.980 --> 00:48:49.980
and people are going to run in completely different directions

00:48:49.980 --> 00:48:52.980
and think that you hate hot dogs.

00:48:52.980 --> 00:48:56.980
So, yeah, let's just, let's move on from this topic.

00:48:56.980 --> 00:49:01.980
This will be great for kids because like on a plane or whatever,

00:49:01.980 --> 00:49:04.980
when, that's the, that's, I'm trying to think.

00:49:04.980 --> 00:49:08.980
We never did it in restaurants. We've only occasionally done it in the car.

00:49:08.980 --> 00:49:12.980
I think that's like the iPad parenting time for me is on the plane.

00:49:12.980 --> 00:49:17.980
We'll just give the kids the phone, give them the iPad, give them the headphones.

00:49:17.980 --> 00:49:21.980
There's three of them, right? The plane is acceptable. So they sit in their own row.

00:49:21.980 --> 00:49:24.980
We're not even there. Sure. And we just have a flight by ourselves.

00:49:24.980 --> 00:49:27.980
We feel alternative. They just watch movies anyways.

00:49:27.980 --> 00:49:30.980
So, so, yeah, that's going to be, that's going to be great

00:49:30.980 --> 00:49:33.980
because I've got, I've got little girls and they have little ears

00:49:33.980 --> 00:49:36.980
and smaller ear tips is going to be awesome.

00:49:36.980 --> 00:49:40.980
Not that I'm going to get my kids the new ones anyways. They're going to get my hand me down.

00:49:40.980 --> 00:49:45.980
So whatever. But they've got a new ultra low noise microphone apparently,

00:49:45.980 --> 00:49:49.980
multi-port acoustic architecture. So I, does that mean they have multiple drivers?

00:49:49.980 --> 00:49:53.980
I'm actually not sure. I haven't looked into them that much yet. I'm not working on my video yet because we don't get really

00:49:53.980 --> 00:49:58.980
access to Apple hardware. New H2 chip, heart rates are actually, I don't think that's new.

00:49:58.980 --> 00:50:03.980
I think that's the same one. Heart rate sensing though. So for people who work out, this could be useful, I guess,

00:50:03.980 --> 00:50:07.980
if you don't want to wear a watch. I guess there's some moves you wouldn't want to watch on for, right?

00:50:07.980 --> 00:50:10.980
For sure. I would, I like this actually.

00:50:10.980 --> 00:50:14.980
I think that's very cool. This is one of the things that like I was like, I'm sad about this.

00:50:14.980 --> 00:50:16.980
I'm sad about this because I can't get the pros.

00:50:17.980 --> 00:50:20.980
Right. Cause he doesn't like silicone. Yeah.

00:50:20.980 --> 00:50:28.980
They just squish themselves out of my ears because I have weird ear canals, but yeah, it's, that's actually really cool feature.

00:50:28.980 --> 00:50:32.980
Not that I necessarily think you're going to go around like some

00:50:32.980 --> 00:50:35.980
people were talking about how this is better because you can do it without your phone on you.

00:50:35.980 --> 00:50:38.980
I think this is specifically, I saw comments about that.

00:50:38.980 --> 00:50:41.980
I was genuinely confused. I think this is specifically a, so that you don't have to have

00:50:41.980 --> 00:50:43.980
your watch on you.

00:50:44.980 --> 00:50:48.980
And I would prefer to wear like as few accessories as possible

00:50:48.980 --> 00:50:53.980
when I'm out doing stuff. So it being able to be measured through your, your earbuds is pretty

00:50:53.980 --> 00:50:54.980
neat.

00:50:57.980 --> 00:51:00.980
Most importantly, they are IP 57 now.

00:51:00.980 --> 00:51:04.980
So they're like super sweat proof and water resistant and are the

00:51:04.980 --> 00:51:11.980
same price. So Apple seems to be kind of just sucking it up on their higher

00:51:11.980 --> 00:51:14.980
costs in order to capture some market share right now, which

00:51:14.980 --> 00:51:19.980
feels like an uncharacteristically aggressive Apple.

00:51:19.980 --> 00:51:23.980
Like they're, they're almost coming across a little, still in

00:51:23.980 --> 00:51:26.980
the most Apple way possible, but they're coming across a little

00:51:26.980 --> 00:51:30.980
scrappy here, which I kind of like.

00:51:30.980 --> 00:51:36.980
I think it's pretty cool. Do we, do we expect them to put a removable battery in them

00:51:36.980 --> 00:51:39.980
anytime soon? No. Nope.

00:51:39.980 --> 00:51:44.980
Go fuck yourself. They're still Apple, but the AirPods Pro 3s, those were in

00:51:44.980 --> 00:51:49.980
immediate order for me when I saw them. Some people are saying that the new ear tips are, are foam and

00:51:49.980 --> 00:51:54.980
silicone and that they have some new, yeah, thing.

00:51:54.980 --> 00:51:57.980
Maybe, I don't know. Maybe I'll give it a shot, but probably not.

00:51:57.980 --> 00:52:00.980
They can give it a shot. I don't think it's going to work for you if there's any kind of

00:52:00.980 --> 00:52:03.980
silicone slippage. Yep. I agree.

00:52:03.980 --> 00:52:08.980
There's some new watches. Who cares? Let's move on to a new topic.

00:52:08.980 --> 00:52:14.980
I mean, does anyone love the Apple watch?

00:52:14.980 --> 00:52:18.980
Apple watch feels more like just a complete, it's like a mini,

00:52:18.980 --> 00:52:24.980
the mini van of Apple products. It's like, I got the Apple watch because I need, I need notifications

00:52:24.980 --> 00:52:29.980
when my hands are dirty or like I, I got it from my grandpa

00:52:29.980 --> 00:52:32.980
because he might slip and fall.

00:52:32.980 --> 00:52:36.980
It just, it just feels like a, okay, people in chat, they love

00:52:36.980 --> 00:52:39.980
their Apple watch. The fitness stuff is that, yeah.

00:52:39.980 --> 00:52:43.980
Someone said fitness slash outdoors people. The fitness stuff is actually wild.

00:52:43.980 --> 00:52:49.980
The Apple watch is like the king of that. I gave up completely when my Apple watch series, something or

00:52:49.980 --> 00:52:52.980
other congratulated me for my excellent bike ride while I was

00:52:52.980 --> 00:52:56.980
driving down the highway. I was just like, well, this is just obviously.

00:52:56.980 --> 00:53:01.980
You're biking really fast. Yeah. Biking really fast and my heart rate is a very relaxed resting

00:53:01.980 --> 00:53:06.980
heart rate. Like, can we, like I just, I would rather personally, I would

00:53:06.980 --> 00:53:10.980
rather have no data than have bad data that I can't trust.

00:53:10.980 --> 00:53:15.980
I just don't care. I can't care about it. You can't really trust any of them, but it's heart rate stuff.

00:53:15.980 --> 00:53:21.980
The last time I looked into it, which was a very long time ago, was better than like everybody's and buy a long shot, which is

00:53:21.980 --> 00:53:24.980
interesting.

00:53:24.980 --> 00:53:27.980
Okay. Yeah. Maybe it's worth giving another shot.

00:53:27.980 --> 00:53:30.980
I really wish we were able to make that, that video way back

00:53:30.980 --> 00:53:33.980
in the day. Do you remember that, that project I was trying to do with

00:53:33.980 --> 00:53:36.980
the UBC? I think we've talked about it online show before where we,

00:53:36.980 --> 00:53:40.980
they had like a lab where we could hook up all the real,

00:53:40.980 --> 00:53:43.980
all the real probes and then like where all the fitness

00:53:43.980 --> 00:53:46.980
trackers and see which ones were the most accurate.

00:53:46.980 --> 00:53:49.980
But then for whatever reason, they weren't able to do it.

00:53:49.980 --> 00:53:52.980
So it didn't happen. But I'd love to revisit the concept.

00:53:52.980 --> 00:53:56.980
I think others have done it since then though. Probably. So I don't think it would be a novel thing.

00:53:56.980 --> 00:53:57.980
Yeah.

00:54:00.980 --> 00:54:03.980
Okay. What are we supposed to be doing now? You want to, you want to pick a topic?

00:54:03.980 --> 00:54:06.980
It says topic two. Sure.

00:54:06.980 --> 00:54:12.980
We can do this Corsair one or we can jump down into,

00:54:12.980 --> 00:54:17.980
oh, do we have the, 10 to one might take a bit. Do we have the anthropic settlement in here?

00:54:17.980 --> 00:54:21.980
Oh, we didn't, I know we don't have that this week guys, sorry, but that's interesting.

00:54:21.980 --> 00:54:29.980
Go look it up on your own, I guess. The AI news is fast, heavy and always very similar.

00:54:29.980 --> 00:54:32.980
So I don't think it's good to, I don't know if this one's,

00:54:32.980 --> 00:54:35.980
I don't know if this one's that similar. I don't know what this one is.

00:54:35.980 --> 00:54:38.980
No, this one's kind of a big deal. Oh, okay.

00:54:38.980 --> 00:54:41.980
Yeah, anthropic, fine, we'll just, we'll just go through it now.

00:54:41.980 --> 00:54:47.980
Do it live. Anthropic agreed to pay $1.5 billion to settle claims

00:54:47.980 --> 00:54:51.980
that it downloaded pirated books to train its AI systems.

00:54:51.980 --> 00:54:54.980
And this has,

00:54:54.980 --> 00:54:57.980
Who are they paying money to? Oh wait, that was eight days ago. And then three days ago from Reuters,

00:54:57.980 --> 00:55:00.980
a federal judge in San Francisco has declined for now

00:55:00.980 --> 00:55:03.980
to approve the settlement that was announced Friday.

00:55:03.980 --> 00:55:07.980
So stuff's going down.

00:55:07.980 --> 00:55:11.980
And my understanding is that because they settled

00:55:11.980 --> 00:55:15.980
and it never went to trial, this wouldn't be a precedent.

00:55:15.980 --> 00:55:19.980
And so the matter is still unresolved of like

00:55:19.980 --> 00:55:22.980
copying copyrighted works to train your AIs

00:55:22.980 --> 00:55:26.980
and if you should, you know, probably have your company

00:55:26.980 --> 00:55:29.980
just shut down because it was built on

00:55:29.980 --> 00:55:34.980
other people's copyrighted works or maybe what you're doing is so transformative

00:55:34.980 --> 00:55:37.980
and terribly important that maybe we just

00:55:37.980 --> 00:55:42.980
should not care about copyright in this case. Those are kind of the two camps on either end.

00:55:42.980 --> 00:55:47.980
And it is unresolved, which will be the law of the land

00:55:47.980 --> 00:55:53.980
for the time being. Yeah, because I can understand the argument

00:55:53.980 --> 00:55:55.980
of like national security stuff.

00:55:56.980 --> 00:56:00.980
I don't know if like it's important for national security

00:56:00.980 --> 00:56:03.980
that it reads like werewolf smut.

00:56:05.980 --> 00:56:09.980
I don't know. Hold on one sec. Floatplain chat, you'll need to calm down

00:56:09.980 --> 00:56:12.980
or I'm going to start issuing timeouts to all of y'all. Oh, what's going on?

00:56:12.980 --> 00:56:15.980
Don't worry about it. All right. Okay.

00:56:17.980 --> 00:56:20.980
Should we maybe do the Corsair class action lawsuit?

00:56:20.980 --> 00:56:26.980
Yeah. Because I am pretty peeved about this.

00:56:26.980 --> 00:56:29.980
There's a Canadian one for bread, by the way.

00:56:29.980 --> 00:56:32.980
Okay, but that one I'm not upset about.

00:56:32.980 --> 00:56:37.980
So, oh man, this is, dude, I am like,

00:56:38.980 --> 00:56:42.980
ugh, I hate this. Okay, so here, Corsair Gaming had to pay

00:56:42.980 --> 00:56:46.980
five and a half million dollars to settle a claim,

00:56:46.980 --> 00:56:51.980
shut up, to settle a claim of effectively false advertising

00:56:51.980 --> 00:56:56.980
on their DDR4 and DDR5 memory products.

00:56:56.980 --> 00:57:00.980
Plaintiffs, there's a bit of editorialization here.

00:57:00.980 --> 00:57:05.980
Blood sucking lawyer leeches claimed that consumers

00:57:05.980 --> 00:57:08.980
reasonably believe that Corsair memory will run

00:57:08.980 --> 00:57:13.980
at the advertised speeds, but in reality, the memory does not and cannot run at these advertised speeds

00:57:13.980 --> 00:57:17.980
out of the box. Trying to get Corsair memory to run at the advertised speed

00:57:17.980 --> 00:57:20.980
requires altering your computer's firmware to attempt

00:57:20.980 --> 00:57:25.980
to make the memory run at higher than standard speeds. This is known as overclocking, and overclocking

00:57:25.980 --> 00:57:29.980
often does not work. There's substantial risk that attempts to overclock

00:57:29.980 --> 00:57:33.980
will fail, all of which is technically true,

00:57:33.980 --> 00:57:38.980
but in this case, I don't actually think it's the best kind of true.

00:57:38.980 --> 00:57:42.980
Also from the complaint, Plaintiff and class members

00:57:42.980 --> 00:57:45.980
were injured as a direct and proximate result

00:57:45.980 --> 00:57:48.980
of Corsair's conduct because, A,

00:57:48.980 --> 00:57:51.980
they would not have purchased Corsair high speed memory

00:57:51.980 --> 00:57:57.980
if they had known that Corsair would breach its warranty, and B, they overpaid for high speed memory products

00:57:57.980 --> 00:58:01.980
because they are sold at a price premium due to Corsair's false warranty.

00:58:01.980 --> 00:58:05.980
And in this case, warranty doesn't mean that they fix it if it's broken,

00:58:05.980 --> 00:58:11.980
they mean they warrant that it will operate the way that it says on the box.

00:58:11.980 --> 00:58:18.980
The complaint states numerous times that consumers expect those speeds out of the box,

00:58:18.980 --> 00:58:22.980
but this appears to me, even though this is a settlement

00:58:22.980 --> 00:58:29.980
and therefore not like an established precedent,

00:58:29.980 --> 00:58:34.980
this seems to me to open up an entire can of worms

00:58:34.980 --> 00:58:39.980
and make it pretty difficult to advertise a lot of things

00:58:39.980 --> 00:58:43.980
that require some technical know-how

00:58:43.980 --> 00:58:48.980
in order to get the advertised result.

00:58:48.980 --> 00:58:52.980
Am I missing something here?

00:58:52.980 --> 00:58:58.980
Do you guys think I'm off base here? Because basically every memory manufacturer

00:58:58.980 --> 00:59:03.980
is now at risk of either not being able to advertise

00:59:03.980 --> 00:59:09.980
what the overclocked capability... because the RAM itself is capable of the speeds.

00:59:09.980 --> 00:59:14.980
That much is certain, and from my point of view,

00:59:14.980 --> 00:59:19.980
they label XMP or DOCP or EXPO profiles or whatever else

00:59:19.980 --> 00:59:23.980
pretty clearly. I also think that it's really weird

00:59:23.980 --> 00:59:27.980
to go after Corsair for this. Very specifically when it's everybody.

00:59:27.980 --> 00:59:30.980
If you're buying Corsair though,

00:59:31.980 --> 00:59:37.980
I would think at the very least you read an article once.

00:59:37.980 --> 00:59:42.980
Maybe this is one of those things where I'm often lecturing the audience about,

00:59:42.980 --> 00:59:45.980
don't assume the knowledge of even people

00:59:45.980 --> 00:59:49.980
who participate in this hobby, but good lord.

00:59:49.980 --> 00:59:53.980
Avon Fox said in industrial applications,

00:59:53.980 --> 00:59:56.980
sorry, in industrial automation things are sold

00:59:56.980 --> 00:59:59.980
with actual and theoretical capability ratings.

01:00:01.980 --> 01:00:07.980
Or showing a default and a potential.

01:00:07.980 --> 01:00:11.980
Yeah, I mean, I guess. I kind of agree with you that I don't think

01:00:11.980 --> 01:00:18.980
this should have been targeted at Corsair specifically. Okay, so if ASUS has a 165 Hz...

01:00:18.980 --> 01:00:21.980
Okay, no, let's go bleeding edge.

01:00:21.980 --> 01:00:28.980
If ASUS has a 480 Hz monitor, how much do they have to disclaim?

01:00:28.980 --> 01:00:33.980
How much do they have to disclaim? You're going to need a GPU and a cable

01:00:33.980 --> 01:00:36.980
that will actually be able to run at that.

01:00:36.980 --> 01:00:39.980
You're putting together a computer piecemeal.

01:00:39.980 --> 01:00:43.980
Red Bull doesn't actually give you wings. I think there's a bit of an expectation

01:00:43.980 --> 01:00:47.980
that if you are buying a constituent component of something

01:00:47.980 --> 01:00:51.980
that you are doing so with some expectation

01:00:51.980 --> 01:00:56.980
that you will acquire the knowledge to install and operate it.

01:00:56.980 --> 01:00:59.980
I'm sorry, man, I don't like this.

01:00:59.980 --> 01:01:03.980
At this level with the explanation that I have heard so far,

01:01:03.980 --> 01:01:08.980
I don't like it either.

01:01:08.980 --> 01:01:11.980
I wouldn't mind if there was maybe some minor changes to packaging.

01:01:11.980 --> 01:01:14.980
It's a bit of a meme going to your friend's house

01:01:14.980 --> 01:01:19.980
and freaking out that his monitor is still at 60 Hz is like a thing.

01:01:19.980 --> 01:01:23.980
So if there was a little bit better explanation of this type of stuff,

01:01:23.980 --> 01:01:26.980
finding people's RAMs at default speeds

01:01:26.980 --> 01:01:30.980
is very common as well. This is true.

01:01:30.980 --> 01:01:34.980
If there was a little bit more explicit communication, that could be cool, but I don't necessarily know

01:01:34.980 --> 01:01:38.980
that it was worth this, and I don't think it makes any sense to target JustCourse there.

01:01:38.980 --> 01:01:42.980
Other manufacturers apparently do use terminology like up to

01:01:42.980 --> 01:01:47.980
to describe the frequencies that their memory kits will run at.

01:01:47.980 --> 01:01:50.980
But this seems to be...

01:01:50.980 --> 01:01:55.980
Courser has also denied any wrongdoing here, and this seems to be yet another case where the defendant settles

01:01:55.980 --> 01:02:00.980
knowing that the settlement will be less than the cost of litigating it or the potential negative publicity

01:02:00.980 --> 01:02:03.980
if they are found guilty.

01:02:03.980 --> 01:02:07.980
I think this is lame still,

01:02:07.980 --> 01:02:10.980
and I think that while I mean, you know,

01:02:10.980 --> 01:02:13.980
frankly I don't have a ton of sympathy

01:02:13.980 --> 01:02:19.980
for publicly traded corporations that probably have plenty of money or whatever,

01:02:19.980 --> 01:02:23.980
in general Courser has kind of been bros, you know?

01:02:23.980 --> 01:02:27.980
I think they've overall stood behind their products

01:02:27.980 --> 01:02:33.980
and been pretty chill. Their products can be expensive sometimes,

01:02:33.980 --> 01:02:37.980
but I don't think that Courser has been particularly evil,

01:02:37.980 --> 01:02:40.980
so if there was someone that was going to kind of get picked on,

01:02:40.980 --> 01:02:44.980
I would much rather it be someone that's been, you know,

01:02:44.980 --> 01:02:48.980
kind of a bastard at some point or another.

01:02:48.980 --> 01:02:52.980
And I just don't think that Courser has earned,

01:02:52.980 --> 01:02:56.980
you know, a five and a half million dollar hit to their pocketbook

01:02:56.980 --> 01:03:01.980
for frankly something that people could have looked up on Wikipedia

01:03:01.980 --> 01:03:06.980
before they went and installed a component product in something.

01:03:06.980 --> 01:03:10.980
I don't like it.

01:03:10.980 --> 01:03:13.980
Dan, what's next?

01:03:13.980 --> 01:03:17.980
I'm not sure, because like I've got an extra sponsors thing

01:03:17.980 --> 01:03:20.980
that I'm supposed to throw somewhere and I don't know where to put it.

01:03:20.980 --> 01:03:23.980
They didn't wait, this wasn't planned out? I don't know.

01:03:23.980 --> 01:03:27.980
I thought it was planned out. Dude, it's Wanshow. I haven't figured it out yet.

01:03:27.980 --> 01:03:31.980
It's the redheaded stepchild of Linus Media Group media properties.

01:03:31.980 --> 01:03:35.980
Like it's, I've been doing other things.

01:03:35.980 --> 01:03:39.980
I wasn't even sure if you're going to make it tonight.

01:03:39.980 --> 01:03:42.980
Yeah, how close were you? Dude.

01:03:42.980 --> 01:03:46.980
Like did you just walk on the set before I got here? Like five, ten minutes, yeah.

01:03:46.980 --> 01:03:50.980
Oh, wow. Also, there was... The street could have been broken today?

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I should maybe tell this story right now. Dude, you could have been on a plane.

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There you go. There, Dan. It's done now. Yay!

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You can relax. Well, don't relax. We got a whole show to do for a while.

01:05:47.980 --> 01:05:53.980
Oh. Oh, okay. Well, I don't think we should do the CW announcements right after we did a sponsor spot.

01:05:53.980 --> 01:05:57.980
Well, that's... We really need to get through... Luke has to talk about his thing.

01:05:57.980 --> 01:06:00.980
Luke has to talk about his thing. Oh, well, then why'd you put the sign there?

01:06:00.980 --> 01:06:04.980
You should put a sign that says Luke talk about his thing. I don't have any more card paper.

01:06:04.980 --> 01:06:08.980
Oh, okay. We don't have the budget for that.

01:06:10.980 --> 01:06:12.980
You guys make me sound like such a cheap c***.

01:06:14.980 --> 01:06:16.980
Honestly, though, I'm glad he said it.

01:06:19.980 --> 01:06:21.980
I mean, no, you're not. We love you.

01:06:23.980 --> 01:06:25.980
You're so reasonable.

01:06:27.980 --> 01:06:30.980
When was the last time I turned down a purchase request?

01:06:30.980 --> 01:06:35.980
Name it. Maybe I was lying to cover my laziness.

01:06:35.980 --> 01:06:38.980
I literally buy fire trucks for the memes.

01:06:38.980 --> 01:06:42.980
Oh, hold on. Never mind. I take it all back. I have a giant stack right here.

01:06:46.980 --> 01:06:49.980
Sorry, we lost the budget to have a producer come right now.

01:06:50.980 --> 01:06:53.980
Okay. Do I talk about the trip? Sure.

01:06:53.980 --> 01:06:57.980
Did you fall? Yeah. No, actually never.

01:06:57.980 --> 01:07:00.980
And I climbed a mountain. Nice. Nice.

01:07:00.980 --> 01:07:04.980
Yeah. No, I was in Sofia, Bulgaria.

01:07:04.980 --> 01:07:07.980
Right. Oh, that's the kind of mountain you were climbing.

01:07:08.980 --> 01:07:11.980
Oh. Nah, he wasn't. He's loyal.

01:07:11.980 --> 01:07:14.980
Yeah. Oh, or not. You know what?

01:07:14.980 --> 01:07:17.980
Whatever happens with full consent from all parties, I don't judge.

01:07:18.980 --> 01:07:21.980
That would still be loyal. It's a deal. Sure.

01:07:21.980 --> 01:07:24.980
Yeah. Loyal and faithful, I guess, are not quite the same thing.

01:07:24.980 --> 01:07:25.980
Correct.

01:07:30.980 --> 01:07:33.980
Would it still be faithful if it was like a...

01:07:33.980 --> 01:07:37.980
Yes. Okay. No, I think faithful has a connotation of...

01:07:37.980 --> 01:07:40.980
Is it like specifically religious? Of... No, no, no, no, no.

01:07:40.980 --> 01:07:46.980
I think... Well, faithful has a connotation of 2-1 from my point of view.

01:07:46.980 --> 01:07:50.980
I was thinking faithful to wishes and understandings.

01:07:50.980 --> 01:07:53.980
Yeah, exactly. And loyal is just like...

01:07:53.980 --> 01:07:56.980
Nah, there's like 50 and other people.

01:07:56.980 --> 01:07:59.980
Completely regardless. And no, none of that happened anyways.

01:07:59.980 --> 01:08:02.980
Look, I wouldn't judge. I wouldn't judge.

01:08:02.980 --> 01:08:05.980
That's all. That's all I'm saying. Anyways, I was there.

01:08:05.980 --> 01:08:08.980
Yeah. Local time... So Luke was in Sofia.

01:08:08.980 --> 01:08:12.980
Yes. Yes. Local time for them.

01:08:12.980 --> 01:08:15.980
I left and I think it was 5 p.m. 5 p.m.

01:08:15.980 --> 01:08:19.980
Okay. So this is in Belgium, Hungary. Where was it again? Bulgaria.

01:08:19.980 --> 01:08:24.980
Bulgaria, right. And I had a pretty tight connection, but it would be fine.

01:08:24.980 --> 01:08:31.980
Yeah. Theoretically. As long as nothing got delayed, I would be landing back in Munich

01:08:31.980 --> 01:08:34.980
and then taking a train overnight up to Berlin

01:08:34.980 --> 01:08:37.980
and then flying back to Vancouver through a connection.

01:08:37.980 --> 01:08:40.980
Vancouver. I hardly know her. My God.

01:08:44.980 --> 01:08:47.980
It was not Whiz Air. It was Lufthansa.

01:08:47.980 --> 01:08:54.980
Yeah. Anyways, because of course it needed to be a fairly tight connection to the train.

01:08:54.980 --> 01:08:57.980
The plane, the flight got delayed because of course it did.

01:08:57.980 --> 01:09:00.980
Because of course it did. It was only delayed by 25 minutes.

01:09:00.980 --> 01:09:03.980
I still could make it. Yeah.

01:09:03.980 --> 01:09:07.980
It was going to be close. Yeah. Those can be the worst ones sometimes though

01:09:07.980 --> 01:09:10.980
because then they don't proactively reschedule you.

01:09:10.980 --> 01:09:13.980
Oh no, the plane and the train were booked separately.

01:09:13.980 --> 01:09:16.980
Nice. They didn't care at all. Nice.

01:09:16.980 --> 01:09:21.980
Because of course, I didn't even ask because there's no way they're going to care.

01:09:21.980 --> 01:09:26.980
So my whole thing like as we're landing is like, okay,

01:09:26.980 --> 01:09:31.980
it's close. We can definitely make it. I know the train station is extremely easy to navigate.

01:09:31.980 --> 01:09:34.980
So once I get to the train station from the airport.

01:09:34.980 --> 01:09:39.980
No problem. Not an issue. I can have like two minutes and I can run all the way to the train

01:09:39.980 --> 01:09:44.980
and get on the train. It's no problem. But I needed, I had check luggage.

01:09:44.980 --> 01:09:47.980
So I needed the check luggage to come off like pretty quick.

01:09:47.980 --> 01:09:51.980
Oh no. No. It always lasts when you're in a hurry.

01:09:51.980 --> 01:09:57.980
Guess how long? 20 minutes. Just from when we landed to the, to my bag,

01:09:57.980 --> 01:10:00.980
which by the way was in the first three bags to come off.

01:10:00.980 --> 01:10:04.980
Guess how long it took from my bag to come out from when the plane landed?

01:10:04.980 --> 01:10:07.980
You realize the only solution is gamer jet.

01:10:07.980 --> 01:10:12.980
55 minutes. What? It's the longest I've literally ever had to wait

01:10:12.980 --> 01:10:16.980
when there wasn't some type of like accident.

01:10:17.980 --> 01:10:20.980
There was, there was genuinely like hundreds of people waiting

01:10:20.980 --> 01:10:23.980
in the baggage area for two carousels.

01:10:23.980 --> 01:10:27.980
I have no idea what was happening. I don't know if they were like short staffed that day or something,

01:10:27.980 --> 01:10:30.980
but it took forever.

01:10:30.980 --> 01:10:33.980
It was crazy. So I definitely missed my train.

01:10:33.980 --> 01:10:37.980
I had like pre-booked the heck out of my ticket because you save a ton of money that way.

01:10:37.980 --> 01:10:40.980
Yeah. And I had a direct- He likes saving money.

01:10:40.980 --> 01:10:45.980
It's great. I had it all perfectly planned out. It's actually, I think, what gets him off?

01:10:45.980 --> 01:10:48.980
A little bit. Yeah. A little bit.

01:10:48.980 --> 01:10:53.980
So I had a direct train too, so I knew I could get a decent sleep on the train.

01:10:53.980 --> 01:10:58.980
Oh, no. So not only did I have to get a indirect train,

01:10:58.980 --> 01:11:02.980
so I had to get a transfer, but also I had to book now last minute.

01:11:02.980 --> 01:11:06.980
So I had to pay expensive train prices.

01:11:08.980 --> 01:11:14.980
So I couldn't like sleep properly. So anyways, so far we are one Uber,

01:11:14.980 --> 01:11:18.980
one flight in, end up figuring out that I can't take my nice one train.

01:11:18.980 --> 01:11:21.980
Now I have to take two trains to Berlin.

01:11:21.980 --> 01:11:24.980
So I get to the train station.

01:11:24.980 --> 01:11:29.980
I'm like, okay, this train is leaving in like, you know,

01:11:29.980 --> 01:11:32.980
in 45 minutes it's going to take me half an hour

01:11:32.980 --> 01:11:35.980
to get to the train station. I can make this new train now.

01:11:35.980 --> 01:11:38.980
It'll be fine. I get there. Okay.

01:11:38.980 --> 01:11:41.980
The train's delayed by like 15 minutes. That's fine though. Okay.

01:11:41.980 --> 01:11:44.980
The train's delayed by like half an hour. That's fine now. Get on the train.

01:11:44.980 --> 01:11:49.980
Oh, while the train is rolling, for some reason it gains another half an hour of delay.

01:11:49.980 --> 01:11:52.980
So it gets to the next train station an hour late.

01:11:52.980 --> 01:11:55.980
I'm all worried because I'm like, I'm going to miss the next train.

01:11:55.980 --> 01:11:59.980
I had an hour to get, I had an hour at the next train station to transfer.

01:11:59.980 --> 01:12:02.980
And now I have like four minutes or something.

01:12:02.980 --> 01:12:06.980
And I'm like, oh my God, if it's in a weird spot, I'm going to miss my next train.

01:12:06.980 --> 01:12:10.980
Nope, not a problem. Because the next train got delayed by an hour.

01:12:10.980 --> 01:12:15.980
What is happening? What is up with German, German transportation?

01:12:15.980 --> 01:12:18.980
I heard this as like a meme before I went there.

01:12:18.980 --> 01:12:21.980
Everything's just delayed all the time, as far as I can tell.

01:12:21.980 --> 01:12:25.980
While I was standing in the train station, getting off my train that was delayed for an hour,

01:12:25.980 --> 01:12:30.980
waiting for another train that was delayed for an hour, I heard other trains announcing that they were delayed.

01:12:30.980 --> 01:12:33.980
Like crazy. Oddly enough,

01:12:33.980 --> 01:12:36.980
the trains were extremely comfortable. Very nice.

01:12:36.980 --> 01:12:39.980
Right. Just never there on time. Right.

01:12:39.980 --> 01:12:43.980
Anyway, so that train gets delayed for an hour. So then I'm waiting for it anyways,

01:12:43.980 --> 01:12:46.980
despite thinking that I was going to miss it. Get into Berlin,

01:12:46.980 --> 01:12:50.980
take another train to get me from the like main train station

01:12:50.980 --> 01:12:54.980
in Berlin to the airport. Yeah. And then that flight takes me to Frankfurt,

01:12:54.980 --> 01:12:59.980
and then that flight takes me to Vancouver. And then I get picked up from the airport by Emma and brought here.

01:12:59.980 --> 01:13:02.980
So it was three cars, three trains,

01:13:02.980 --> 01:13:06.980
three planes, and like 30 plus hours.

01:13:06.980 --> 01:13:09.980
And I got to Wench a long time.

01:13:09.980 --> 01:13:12.980
By 10 minutes. By 10 minutes. Nice.

01:13:12.980 --> 01:13:16.980
Did I ever tell you about how I almost got stuck in LA

01:13:16.980 --> 01:13:19.980
when we went down there to collab with Kyle?

01:13:19.980 --> 01:13:23.980
I don't think so. Canada. Like didn't have enough air traffic controllers.

01:13:23.980 --> 01:13:26.980
Whoa. So a bunch of flights into IVR were delayed.

01:13:26.980 --> 01:13:29.980
Whoa. So my flight was canceled.

01:13:29.980 --> 01:13:34.980
And then I was, I like immediately went to the Air Canada desk

01:13:34.980 --> 01:13:38.980
where they told me there's nothing we can do.

01:13:38.980 --> 01:13:43.980
You can have a flight tomorrow, which I said was not good enough because my daughters were having

01:13:43.980 --> 01:13:46.980
seven teeth out the next morning between the two of them.

01:13:46.980 --> 01:13:49.980
And they were super stressed. I promised I'd be there.

01:13:49.980 --> 01:13:54.980
So they said, okay, well, I don't know, whatever. You can call the phone lines because they can do more than we can.

01:13:54.980 --> 01:13:57.980
So I called the phone line. They tell me, yeah, I've got a flight for you.

01:13:57.980 --> 01:14:00.980
I go, oh my God. Thank God.

01:14:00.980 --> 01:14:04.980
Okay. Vance. So the executive assistant here.

01:14:04.980 --> 01:14:08.980
Don't bother booking me that WestJet flight that you found.

01:14:08.980 --> 01:14:13.980
Air Canada has a flight for me. Then she goes, oh yeah, can you depart from this airport?

01:14:13.980 --> 01:14:19.980
I'm like, bro, I just told you I'm at LAX. That is literally three hours from here in LA traffic right now.

01:14:19.980 --> 01:14:22.980
And it's 45 minutes until the flight.

01:14:22.980 --> 01:14:25.980
How could you possibly think that I could make it? Okay, Vance book it.

01:14:25.980 --> 01:14:28.980
Vance goes, oh yeah, by the way, it went up like $400

01:14:28.980 --> 01:14:32.980
because everyone is rebooking. It's like going up by the minute.

01:14:32.980 --> 01:14:35.980
I'm like, oh my God, book it.

01:14:35.980 --> 01:14:40.980
And so he books it. I spend $1200 on a plane ticket from LA to Vancouver.

01:14:40.980 --> 01:14:46.980
And then the Air Canada rep goes, actually I've got one for you.

01:14:46.980 --> 01:14:50.980
And instead of being a connecting one through like Edmonton or something,

01:14:50.980 --> 01:14:54.980
it's a direct flight, but it's like later in the day. Then that flight gets delayed.

01:14:54.980 --> 01:15:02.980
So I'm sitting here at the airport. The one that Glenn, one of our shooters, got booked for was canceled again

01:15:02.980 --> 01:15:06.980
in the mid-afternoon and then my evening one left an hour late,

01:15:06.980 --> 01:15:11.980
but ultimately I did get here. I was surprised Yvonne by being an intruder in our house

01:15:11.980 --> 01:15:14.980
and coming into the bedroom. I told her I wasn't going to make it home that night.

01:15:14.980 --> 01:15:17.980
You just showed up. Oh my God.

01:15:17.980 --> 01:15:21.980
My flight's to Germany for this trip.

01:15:21.980 --> 01:15:25.980
I was talking to Sammy about it because I got my two tickets

01:15:25.980 --> 01:15:29.980
and my second one. So once we landed in,

01:15:31.980 --> 01:15:34.980
man, I don't even remember where our first landing was,

01:15:34.980 --> 01:15:38.980
but once we landed there, I didn't have a seat on the second plane.

01:15:38.980 --> 01:15:41.980
Oh my God. Oh right. They overbooked it.

01:15:41.980 --> 01:15:47.980
I almost didn't get on to the flight. So because she sent me my booking confirmation by email,

01:15:47.980 --> 01:15:50.980
so I thought I had a ticket.

01:15:50.980 --> 01:15:56.980
So when I got to the counter, I didn't tell the best part of the story. When I got to the counter, I didn't have a seat

01:15:56.980 --> 01:16:00.980
because I never checked in, because I was already there at the airport

01:16:00.980 --> 01:16:03.980
and I thought that my booking confirmation was a ticket.

01:16:03.980 --> 01:16:08.980
I didn't understand the difference. I'd never done that before. And so I showed them my booking confirmation.

01:16:08.980 --> 01:16:12.980
I had a barcode on it and everything. I don't know that I would have thought differently. They let me through security with it,

01:16:12.980 --> 01:16:16.980
even though I didn't have a ticket. So there was one more middle seat

01:16:16.980 --> 01:16:21.980
and they were able to put me in it. The first lady at the counter to get on the plane,

01:16:21.980 --> 01:16:25.980
I'd been at the airport for like nine and a half hours or 10 hours by this point.

01:16:25.980 --> 01:16:29.980
The first one was like, you don't have a ticket.

01:16:29.980 --> 01:16:32.980
And I was like, what do you mean I don't have a ticket? I'm standing here at the gate, aren't I?

01:16:32.980 --> 01:16:37.980
How did I get here? But then I realized, oh, they never actually scanned my ticket.

01:16:37.980 --> 01:16:41.980
They scanned my passport and they looked at what I had,

01:16:41.980 --> 01:16:44.980
but they never actually scanned my ticket.

01:16:44.980 --> 01:16:47.980
So I was never checked in. That's wild.

01:16:47.980 --> 01:16:52.980
And then the second one was like, move. And like checked for me and was like, okay.

01:16:52.980 --> 01:16:55.980
No, I got one. Here's your ticket. And I was like, thank you.

01:16:55.980 --> 01:16:58.980
This actually means the world pretty great.

01:16:58.980 --> 01:17:02.980
I actually kind of hate traveling. Like that was so stressful.

01:17:02.980 --> 01:17:05.980
I like traveling. I actually really do.

01:17:05.980 --> 01:17:07.980
I don't like...

01:17:11.980 --> 01:17:15.980
I really, really hated rebooking those train tickets.

01:17:15.980 --> 01:17:20.980
That pissed me off. Needing to like pay last minute prices.

01:17:20.980 --> 01:17:23.980
WestJet wouldn't refund it. Yeah.

01:17:23.980 --> 01:17:28.980
They have a zero exceptions. Within 24 hours, I think it is no refunds.

01:17:28.980 --> 01:17:31.980
Even if you just booked it five minutes ago, they're like, no.

01:17:31.980 --> 01:17:35.980
And I was like, bro, if you unbook it now, you could literally just sell it to someone else

01:17:35.980 --> 01:17:38.980
who also desperately needs to get home. They'll do that anyways.

01:17:38.980 --> 01:17:42.980
F***ers. They'll just overbook their plane.

01:17:42.980 --> 01:17:46.980
Yeah. The thing that saved me getting to Berlin...

01:17:46.980 --> 01:17:49.980
$500. ...was that I checked in so early.

01:17:49.980 --> 01:17:53.980
And for some reason they just didn't assign me a seat, but I had checked in really early.

01:17:53.980 --> 01:17:56.980
So that when it came down to like the seat lottery thing,

01:17:56.980 --> 01:18:00.980
I just automatically won. Because I had checked in first by like a lot.

01:18:00.980 --> 01:18:04.980
Did I ever tell you I almost missed my play when I went to Edinburgh?

01:18:04.980 --> 01:18:08.980
No. Man, when I went to see Joseph.

01:18:08.980 --> 01:18:11.980
Yeah. Yeah. Oh yeah, we almost missed our plane.

01:18:11.980 --> 01:18:15.980
We flew into Heathrow, and then our plan was to have a connecting flight to Edinburgh,

01:18:15.980 --> 01:18:20.980
and then our connecting flight was cancelled. And the new flight they assigned us was going to be there too late

01:18:20.980 --> 01:18:25.980
to see the play. Oh my God. I was only there to see Joseph in the Amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat

01:18:25.980 --> 01:18:29.980
with Donnie Osman as the pharaoh. And if I wasn't going to see that play,

01:18:29.980 --> 01:18:34.980
then why was I even there? So we are standing there in the airport.

01:18:34.980 --> 01:18:37.980
Like, can you rebook us? I'm like, no, no, we got nothing.

01:18:37.980 --> 01:18:41.980
Like, okay. Okay, so what are our other options?

01:18:41.980 --> 01:18:44.980
We looked into chartering a private plane.

01:18:44.980 --> 01:18:47.980
Because like, I literally was only...

01:18:47.980 --> 01:18:50.980
You already flew across the world. I was only in Europe.

01:18:50.980 --> 01:18:53.980
And I didn't even actually know this at the time, but it was the last performance.

01:18:53.980 --> 01:18:57.980
So it was like... I thought you did know that. I didn't know that before we sat down

01:18:57.980 --> 01:19:00.980
and they said this is the last performance. So I wouldn't have even...

01:19:00.980 --> 01:19:03.980
I could have even like, not known, thinking I could go a day later anyway.

01:19:03.980 --> 01:19:06.980
We actually... So turns out charging is really expensive

01:19:06.980 --> 01:19:09.980
in case you were wondering. Yeah, very expensive.

01:19:09.980 --> 01:19:15.980
I remember from that one scrapyard war. So we found a train.

01:19:15.980 --> 01:19:21.980
Oh yeah, okay. And we were like, okay, we can do the train,

01:19:21.980 --> 01:19:26.980
which is only like a couple hundred dollars compared to thousands and thousands and thousands of dollars

01:19:26.980 --> 01:19:30.980
for the plane, which... What was incredible though was, dude,

01:19:30.980 --> 01:19:34.980
I got to say like, the airplane charter business, damn,

01:19:34.980 --> 01:19:37.980
do they ever have like customer service figured out?

01:19:37.980 --> 01:19:40.980
I emailed. I was like, damn it. They only have an email.

01:19:40.980 --> 01:19:44.980
They don't have a phone line. I emailed. They emailed me back in like three minutes.

01:19:44.980 --> 01:19:47.980
And they were like, here's our phone number. Let's talk.

01:19:47.980 --> 01:19:51.980
And they were like, yeah, we can have you... We can have you taken off within like the next 90 minutes

01:19:51.980 --> 01:19:55.980
or something like that. I was like, you just like found one that's nearby

01:19:55.980 --> 01:19:58.980
and yeah, we got you. I was like, wow, that's crazy anyway.

01:19:58.980 --> 01:20:03.980
So yeah, the plane... So the train ended up running like two hours

01:20:03.980 --> 01:20:07.980
and five minutes late, which it turns out means you get your fare for free.

01:20:07.980 --> 01:20:11.980
So my story worked out. So maybe that's why I ultimately didn't tell the story.

01:20:11.980 --> 01:20:14.980
That makes sense. Somebody in full plane chat pointed out,

01:20:14.980 --> 01:20:17.980
in Germany, if your train is 20 minutes late, your ticket becomes a flex ticket.

01:20:17.980 --> 01:20:20.980
So you can take any train if you're choosing. That is cool.

01:20:20.980 --> 01:20:24.980
The problem for me was the nice pre-booked train that I had

01:20:24.980 --> 01:20:27.980
was the one that wasn't late. The plane was late.

01:20:27.980 --> 01:20:32.980
So I didn't make that train. And then I had to book other trains.

01:20:32.980 --> 01:20:35.980
And those ones were late, but I had to take them anyways.

01:20:35.980 --> 01:20:38.980
It didn't matter if I took them later. If I didn't take those specific trains,

01:20:38.980 --> 01:20:41.980
I would not make it to Berlin on time to take my flight out.

01:20:41.980 --> 01:20:44.980
A couple of people also said, why didn't you just drive?

01:20:44.980 --> 01:20:49.980
I did look into that. Dmitri actually suggested that I just drive.

01:20:49.980 --> 01:20:53.980
Really? But I went and looked at renting a car.

01:20:53.980 --> 01:20:58.980
And the rental car place had a 1.1 or 1.2 star rating.

01:20:58.980 --> 01:21:01.980
And all of the reviews were about how they tried

01:21:01.980 --> 01:21:04.980
to scam them for damage.

01:21:04.980 --> 01:21:07.980
I've been fighting a double charge for a car rental

01:21:07.980 --> 01:21:13.980
for a year with somebody's comment. And I was just like, I'm going to take the train.

01:21:13.980 --> 01:21:16.980
Yeah, Dmitri's reviews of Bulgaria in general.

01:21:16.980 --> 01:21:19.980
No, no, no. This was Germany. Oh, this was Germany. Yeah.

01:21:19.980 --> 01:21:23.980
Oh, okay. Yeah. Because I know he had trouble getting review samples sent to him

01:21:23.980 --> 01:21:27.980
there and stuff. Oh. Stuff would just get disappeared.

01:21:27.980 --> 01:21:30.980
Stuff would happen. I'm not going to say specifically because I don't remember

01:21:30.980 --> 01:21:34.980
the details, but he was just like, yeah, sometimes it could be a real challenge to get review samples

01:21:34.980 --> 01:21:42.980
sent there. Yeah. I actually had, I didn't take a lot of public transport

01:21:42.980 --> 01:21:45.980
in Bulgaria, but like the Bulgarian airport was

01:21:45.980 --> 01:21:49.980
completely fine in my experience. No direct planes from Bulgaria.

01:21:49.980 --> 01:21:55.980
Well, my flights, I travel in a really whack way where I do

01:21:55.980 --> 01:22:01.980
a lot of my travel planning like once I'm already there. So my flights to Canada and back were out of Berlin.

01:22:03.980 --> 01:22:06.980
And then the easiest way for me to get to Bulgaria at the time

01:22:06.980 --> 01:22:11.980
was through Munich, not Berlin. So when I'm saying I'm flying back to Germany and then taking

01:22:11.980 --> 01:22:14.980
a train up to Berlin, I'm flying back to Munich.

01:22:14.980 --> 01:22:19.980
Yeah. So it was actually like pretty far from Berlin.

01:22:19.980 --> 01:22:22.980
So I mean, there probably was maybe not direct planes,

01:22:22.980 --> 01:22:28.980
but easier ones, but my flight was already through Berlin.

01:22:28.980 --> 01:22:31.980
And if I don't make that one, that was the one that the company

01:22:31.980 --> 01:22:35.980
had booked for me. So if I don't make that one, I just have to pay for my own

01:22:35.980 --> 01:22:38.980
entire ticket myself because it would have been entirely my fault.

01:22:38.980 --> 01:22:42.980
So like I'd rather not do that. So I'm going to try to make that one.

01:22:42.980 --> 01:22:45.980
I wish I journaled more of my crazy travel stories because

01:22:45.980 --> 01:22:49.980
they're always like. I took a bunch of photos of like, I have some really funny

01:22:49.980 --> 01:22:56.980
ones. Where's my phone? Like the time that I was literally by like 10 seconds on time

01:22:56.980 --> 01:22:58.980
for my plane back from Japan.

01:22:59.980 --> 01:23:04.980
Like they looked at the supervisor because it was literally like the minute of the cutoff.

01:23:04.980 --> 01:23:08.980
And he's like, gives a nod, but like it was bad.

01:23:08.980 --> 01:23:12.980
And it was because I was like 42 cents short of the fare for

01:23:12.980 --> 01:23:15.980
my train into the airport.

01:23:15.980 --> 01:23:19.980
And the lady like wouldn't let me go. And I was like, oh my God, I don't care.

01:23:19.980 --> 01:23:25.980
I don't have any cash. I just said, I need to make my plane, but it's Japan.

01:23:26.980 --> 01:23:29.980
There ain't a lot of flexibility on that.

01:23:29.980 --> 01:23:32.980
So I like this photo because it's like, it's supposed to show

01:23:32.980 --> 01:23:37.980
up. By the way, it was my fault entirely. It was only because I accidentally left all of my luggage on

01:23:37.980 --> 01:23:40.980
my previous train and I had to go to the lost and found I had

01:23:40.980 --> 01:23:43.980
to catch a later train and I like picked the wrong one.

01:23:43.980 --> 01:23:46.980
I like picked the one that left earlier rather than the express one anyway.

01:23:46.980 --> 01:23:49.980
I've done that before. Oh yeah.

01:23:49.980 --> 01:23:52.980
So it's like, hey, it's supposed to show up at like 13

01:23:52.980 --> 01:23:55.980
past midnight. It's going to show up at 105.

01:23:55.980 --> 01:23:58.980
It is 108. Oh my God. How does that work?

01:23:58.980 --> 01:24:01.980
Yeah, that's good math. That's German math. Yeah.

01:24:01.980 --> 01:24:04.980
I noticed a couple of times that it's like the delayed time

01:24:04.980 --> 01:24:12.980
will be a time that we've already passed. Also, we were rolling slow because we're like near the train

01:24:12.980 --> 01:24:17.980
station. The guy said over the intercom, we'll get there at 111,

01:24:17.980 --> 01:24:20.980
which is later than either of those times if you noticed.

01:24:20.980 --> 01:24:25.980
And then 111 comes and goes and we're still rolling and it

01:24:25.980 --> 01:24:29.980
like blew my mind that we're within like slow rolling distance

01:24:29.980 --> 01:24:32.980
of a train station and they still can't get the time right.

01:24:32.980 --> 01:24:35.980
Like we ended up getting there like, I think two or three

01:24:35.980 --> 01:24:38.980
minutes later than the guy on the intercom said, despite

01:24:38.980 --> 01:24:43.980
being within like jogging distance of the station.

01:24:43.980 --> 01:24:46.980
So here's my question. I don't understand. Here's my question.

01:24:46.980 --> 01:24:55.980
Okay. These guys are world renowned for watches.

01:24:55.980 --> 01:24:59.980
Is this like a tariff issue? Is there some kind of border control?

01:24:59.980 --> 01:25:03.980
I don't know what it is. I'm just asking questions.

01:25:03.980 --> 01:25:07.980
The trains in Germany. I'm just asking questions. The trains in Germany were the most comfortable trains I've

01:25:07.980 --> 01:25:12.980
been on in my life, especially the last one that I took.

01:25:12.980 --> 01:25:16.980
It had like leather seats, like super nice.

01:25:16.980 --> 01:25:21.980
And I was in like the cheapest, super saver fare area

01:25:21.980 --> 01:25:24.980
and they had leather, like very nice leather seats.

01:25:24.980 --> 01:25:28.980
Nice. And we're super late.

01:25:28.980 --> 01:25:34.980
I don't get it. German trains are banned by this way.

01:25:34.980 --> 01:25:37.980
Swiss are not part of the EU.

01:25:37.980 --> 01:25:40.980
All right. That's interesting. Okay.

01:25:40.980 --> 01:25:44.980
Dan, what are we supposed to be doing? Oh, do that?

01:25:44.980 --> 01:25:47.980
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Oh, oh, screwdriver. Okay. Yeah, we should fix that.

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what is your favorite totally non-infringing

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transparent, not transparent screwdriver related color.

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Concord purple, dude. I need to not. Everyone's in.

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So I just, well, they shouldn't say the purple.

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They should go to this poll and then they should vote on it.

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It's on YouTube. It's on YouTube. So Dan, if you want to drop them some links,

01:28:59.980 --> 01:29:03.980
people seem confused by the instructions. This is not voting.

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Right here, what you're looking at right now is not voting.

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This place. This is voting. The following people don't even know what that website is.

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I'm doing it. You're spamming too much and can't see it.

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They don't know what that website is because it doesn't work properly in Firefox.

01:29:19.980 --> 01:29:22.980
So what use do they have for it? Stop.

01:29:22.980 --> 01:29:25.980
You're just sending it.

01:29:26.980 --> 01:29:31.980
Oh my goodness. My links, they do nothing. It really is amazing that they can even find their credit cards

01:29:31.980 --> 01:29:34.980
to pay for Floatplane, isn't it? I love you guys.

01:29:34.980 --> 01:29:38.980
Their mom takes care of it. You can't follow instructions sometimes.

01:29:38.980 --> 01:29:41.980
Yeah. Stop.

01:29:41.980 --> 01:29:45.980
Go there. Instruction unclear. Sausage stuck in the door hole.

01:29:45.980 --> 01:29:48.980
Wow. An unrelated cylindrical object.

01:29:48.980 --> 01:29:52.980
Okay. Cool. Let's maybe do another topic or not.

01:29:52.980 --> 01:29:58.980
Let me do a bit of an update. So I got linked to this

01:29:58.980 --> 01:30:02.980
by multiple people in the Floatplane chat,

01:30:02.980 --> 01:30:09.980
crappy PCB and dark guy to both linked to this,

01:30:09.980 --> 01:30:13.980
which is hilarious. Someone else in full plane chat said that apparently something

01:30:13.980 --> 01:30:17.980
it has to do with something about the like German car lobby

01:30:17.980 --> 01:30:20.980
messing with public transport or something. What?

01:30:20.980 --> 01:30:23.980
Who knows? I don't know. I don't know.

01:30:23.980 --> 01:30:28.980
I also wanted to talk about actually wait.

01:30:28.980 --> 01:30:33.980
No, I think I'm supposed to talk about that later. I'll save. I'll save that topic for another time.

01:30:33.980 --> 01:30:37.980
Okay. I think I got.

01:30:37.980 --> 01:30:41.980
I think there's a pizza conspiracy going on,

01:30:41.980 --> 01:30:44.980
but we can talk about it later. A different pizza conspiracy.

01:30:44.980 --> 01:30:47.980
Yeah. I was going to say because. What?

01:30:47.980 --> 01:30:50.980
Very different one. Disrespect. No.

01:30:50.980 --> 01:30:53.980
No. No. One.

01:30:53.980 --> 01:30:56.980
Yeah. A much more serious one. I'm kidding.

01:30:56.980 --> 01:30:59.980
I'm kidding. I'm kidding. A lot less serious.

01:30:59.980 --> 01:31:02.980
Oh my God. You're stressing me out, Luke.

01:31:02.980 --> 01:31:07.980
You're stressing me out. You're making me stressed. But I think I'm supposed to like talk about it later

01:31:07.980 --> 01:31:10.980
or something for some reason. Yes, I am. Okay.

01:31:10.980 --> 01:31:13.980
Cool. Anyways, I think I am supposed to talk about how to send a merge message.

01:31:13.980 --> 01:31:17.980
If you guys want to interact with the show, the best way to do it is to send a merge message.

01:31:17.980 --> 01:31:20.980
These go to producer Dan who will put them down there

01:31:20.980 --> 01:31:24.980
or respond to them or curate them for me and Luke

01:31:24.980 --> 01:31:28.980
to respond to. All you need to do to send a merge message is add something,

01:31:28.980 --> 01:31:32.980
anything to your cart. Go ahead and fill out a merge message.

01:31:32.980 --> 01:31:35.980
Probably do it a little bit better than this. Nice. You can pick a color.

01:31:35.980 --> 01:31:38.980
That would be fine though. You can do that. You can do that.

01:31:38.980 --> 01:31:41.980
It won't get curated for sure. No. But whatever.

01:31:41.980 --> 01:31:44.980
It will show up on screen. Yeah, it will. So that's something.

01:31:44.980 --> 01:31:49.980
And then you go ahead and check out and once you have paid for your order, your merge message will go to producer Dan

01:31:49.980 --> 01:31:54.980
who will then do something along the lines of what he's about to do, which is maybe to read it for us.

01:31:54.980 --> 01:31:57.980
That's right. That's what I do. Nice.

01:31:57.980 --> 01:32:00.980
Very good. Hey, DLL question. He does.

01:32:00.980 --> 01:32:04.980
For Linus. Sometimes. Is there going to be a new winter jacket this year?

01:32:04.980 --> 01:32:07.980
Oh, hold on. I might have it in my car. What?

01:32:07.980 --> 01:32:10.980
So really do another one for Luke. Oh.

01:32:10.980 --> 01:32:18.980
Luke. Luke. I can do a topic if you need.

01:32:18.980 --> 01:32:27.980
Oh, okay. This might work for you as well.

01:32:27.980 --> 01:32:31.980
Sure. We can ask Linus about the second half when he returns.

01:32:31.980 --> 01:32:34.980
How do you feel about so many people having parasocial

01:32:34.980 --> 01:32:39.980
relationships with you and your subordinates? I know you more than you will ever know me.

01:32:39.980 --> 01:32:44.980
Also, have you ever owned a pet rat or a mischief?

01:32:44.980 --> 01:32:47.980
Or a mischief?

01:32:48.980 --> 01:32:51.980
Mischief, copy, paste animal.

01:32:51.980 --> 01:32:55.980
What is that?

01:32:55.980 --> 01:32:58.980
Is that just like any rodent? I don't know.

01:32:58.980 --> 01:33:01.980
A mouse? Hamster. Hamster.

01:33:01.980 --> 01:33:04.980
Is that like a genus? No. I've never had any of those.

01:33:04.980 --> 01:33:07.980
I've had dogs and birds. I have not had a...

01:33:07.980 --> 01:33:11.980
Oh, and fish. I haven't had a super wide range of animals.

01:33:11.980 --> 01:33:16.980
A group of rats is called a mischief.

01:33:16.980 --> 01:33:19.980
Wow. Ha-ha. Learning.

01:33:19.980 --> 01:33:22.980
Not a king, I guess. Thank you, Wikipedia. Oh, that's...

01:33:24.980 --> 01:33:26.980
Jesus. Christ.

01:33:28.980 --> 01:33:31.980
Did you bleep those? I did.

01:33:32.980 --> 01:33:35.980
Okay. It doesn't bleep on my end.

01:33:35.980 --> 01:33:39.980
You can see the button. Man, what was the question even again?

01:33:39.980 --> 01:33:43.980
Have you ever owned a mischief? No, but wasn't there one before that?

01:33:43.980 --> 01:33:50.980
You are drunk. Linus, how do you feel about so many people having parasocial relationships with you

01:33:50.980 --> 01:33:54.980
and your subordinates? I know you more than you will ever know me.

01:33:54.980 --> 01:34:00.980
Also, have you ever owned a pet rat? Or as we now know, a group of pet rats is called a mischief.

01:34:00.980 --> 01:34:04.980
Oh, it's this. I think it's weird that people think this is a new problem.

01:34:04.980 --> 01:34:08.980
That's my hot take. Oh, the parasocial relationships of pet rats.

01:34:08.980 --> 01:34:13.980
People only really talk about it now, but like people were hyper obsessed with like

01:34:13.980 --> 01:34:18.980
Princess Diana, the Beatles, like way hyper obsessed.

01:34:18.980 --> 01:34:27.980
I would argue more than people are now. I think the difference now is that the people that we have these parasocial relationships

01:34:27.980 --> 01:34:34.980
with seem so much more accessible and like real people than the old celebrities were.

01:34:34.980 --> 01:34:38.980
Well, they actually can't afford the amount of separation that the old celebrities had.

01:34:38.980 --> 01:34:41.980
Well, yeah.

01:34:41.980 --> 01:34:46.980
Realistically, I'm not that hard to talk to.

01:34:46.980 --> 01:34:49.980
It's not that hard to get my email address.

01:34:49.980 --> 01:34:55.980
I won't respond to you because I just get too many emails, especially every time I acknowledge

01:34:55.980 --> 01:34:59.980
how easy it is to find my email address. So there's no point.

01:34:59.980 --> 01:35:03.980
And if you do email me, especially at those times, I will certainly filter so that I block

01:35:03.980 --> 01:35:07.980
probably not only you, but the entire domain that you're emailing from if you work at a

01:35:07.980 --> 01:35:10.980
business or something like that, because I just like I can't have people bothering me

01:35:10.980 --> 01:35:20.980
and wasting my time. But in terms of like how accessible sort of internet celebrities are, they're super

01:35:20.980 --> 01:35:25.980
accessible and not only that, but they're accessible like emotionally because they

01:35:25.980 --> 01:35:30.980
have something in common with you other than that they make music you like to listen to

01:35:30.980 --> 01:35:35.980
or they sit on a throne that has oppressed your people for hundreds of years.

01:35:35.980 --> 01:35:42.980
That sort of thing. I've had someone come up to me and like apologize for having a parasocial relationship and then

01:35:42.980 --> 01:35:47.980
like jokingly mentioning some things that happened on WAN as a reference for them having

01:35:47.980 --> 01:35:52.980
a parasocial relationship. And I'm like, man, like we make the content so that you watch it.

01:35:52.980 --> 01:35:56.980
Yeah. Watching WAN Show is not being weird in parasocial.

01:35:56.980 --> 01:36:01.980
Yeah. There's a difference between like knowing some stuff that happens on WAN Show or like,

01:36:01.980 --> 01:36:05.980
you know, sometimes they reference like, oh yeah, but I know things that happened in your life.

01:36:05.980 --> 01:36:09.980
Like yeah, cause I talked about them on WAN Show. Like that's okay.

01:36:09.980 --> 01:36:13.980
This is fine. Like there's a difference between like watching the show.

01:36:13.980 --> 01:36:20.980
Between that and walking up to me at the airport and sitting down next to me and just like uninvited

01:36:20.980 --> 01:36:26.980
when I'm clearly in the middle of something like talking to me without going away eventually.

01:36:26.980 --> 01:36:30.980
To be clear. As if you're friends. Walk up and grab a selfie.

01:36:30.980 --> 01:36:33.980
For sure. Totally fine. Yeah.

01:36:33.980 --> 01:36:39.980
Happy to do that. And but like, that's the key.

01:36:39.980 --> 01:36:42.980
Don't assume that we're friends. Yeah.

01:36:42.980 --> 01:36:45.980
And that I'm like, I'm with my family or whatever else.

01:36:45.980 --> 01:36:48.980
And even if I'm with my family, you know what? Grab a selfie.

01:36:48.980 --> 01:36:55.980
So my new, my new policy, I have a new policy for that. Like I have a new system for that that actually makes it like pretty not disruptive.

01:36:55.980 --> 01:37:00.980
So I'll be like, I'll be like walking in a mall and I'm like with my family or I was going to say friends.

01:37:00.980 --> 01:37:03.980
No, I'm with my family. I don't have friends. But your friend.

01:37:03.980 --> 01:37:06.980
But we don't walk around in the mall together. No.

01:37:06.980 --> 01:37:12.980
So I'm walking in the mall and with my family and someone's like, can I get a selfie?

01:37:12.980 --> 01:37:15.980
I'll be like, sure. Keep up. Yo, I've done that.

01:37:15.980 --> 01:37:18.980
I've done that for sure. Dude, it's great. It's actually fantastic.

01:37:18.980 --> 01:37:24.980
Because they get their selfie. I am not separated from my family and everyone's happy.

01:37:24.980 --> 01:37:27.980
Hot take. The selfies often end up looking pretty cool too.

01:37:27.980 --> 01:37:32.980
Yeah. I don't know why. Just like on the roll is like pretty neat.

01:37:32.980 --> 01:37:36.980
I just want to say I had fun chatting with you briefly at DEF CON.

01:37:36.980 --> 01:37:39.980
Yeah. I mean, that was probably totally fine.

01:37:39.980 --> 01:37:45.980
So that's a different context too though. Like if you walk up and you want to chat with me a little bit at like a whale then or LTX.

01:37:45.980 --> 01:37:48.980
I was there purely on vacation. Oh, okay.

01:37:48.980 --> 01:37:51.980
That's different then. But it was still totally fine. I mean, it's still, you're at a con.

01:37:51.980 --> 01:37:54.980
For sure. I think you're kind of walking it. Yeah.

01:37:54.980 --> 01:37:57.980
I didn't mind at all. I'm sure to be honest. Okay.

01:37:57.980 --> 01:38:01.980
Yeah. So context is everything.

01:38:01.980 --> 01:38:06.980
But anyway, back to the question, the parasocial relationships.

01:38:06.980 --> 01:38:15.980
I think the fact that the relationship forms over something we have in common makes it

01:38:15.980 --> 01:38:25.980
in some ways stronger and feel more, but also not like, like strong, like bizarre, like

01:38:25.980 --> 01:38:30.300
John Hinckley or whatever, like, you know, shooting Reagan over, you know, what's the

01:38:30.300 --> 01:38:35.860
name in taxi driver, but like, but like almost like less strong, like more natural because

01:38:35.860 --> 01:38:41.180
it just kind of happens over time from, from extended exposure and like having common interests.

01:38:41.180 --> 01:38:45.260
Like I, I don't, I don't know, man.

01:38:45.260 --> 01:38:51.100
I, I don't think I'll ever be used to it is, is the bottom line.

01:38:51.100 --> 01:38:54.300
Oddly enough, I think I kind of am. It doesn't really bother me anymore.

01:38:54.300 --> 01:39:02.220
Well, I didn't say bother me. I never really bothered me. It definitely bothered me for a long, well, even just, it can be socially really useful

01:39:02.220 --> 01:39:08.020
sometimes. Getting recognized in public, like, like made me deeply uncomfortable at the beginning.

01:39:08.020 --> 01:39:14.660
Now I'm used to that, but I wouldn't say, but I, I think I'm not used to the one to

01:39:14.660 --> 01:39:18.260
many relationship and I don't think I can ever get used to it.

01:39:18.260 --> 01:39:21.260
I don't think we're wired for it. Sure.

01:39:21.260 --> 01:39:25.060
I, I, I've two funny interactions I'd had at PAX this year.

01:39:25.060 --> 01:39:29.900
One, somebody took a selfie with me and then like 10 minutes later walked by and was like,

01:39:29.900 --> 01:39:34.260
Oh, by the way, can you come back like right here in like two and a half hours to take

01:39:34.260 --> 01:39:38.100
a photo with my friend? And I was like, no.

01:39:38.100 --> 01:39:42.660
And I think that was one of the only times I've ever like, let the annoyance like really

01:39:42.660 --> 01:39:49.420
go into my response. So I was like walking with my brother and like one of my high school friends and he like

01:39:49.420 --> 01:39:54.780
asked me to come back. I was just like, no, like, what, what do you ask?

01:39:54.780 --> 01:40:01.580
Not a chance. Like, I'm sorry if you're watching, but like, no, dude, no, no way.

01:40:01.580 --> 01:40:08.540
Can you pull something really similar with me once? Like, like, can I, if I come back, like, can I go get someone and come back and will you

01:40:08.540 --> 01:40:11.540
still be here? And I was like, no. Yeah.

01:40:11.540 --> 01:40:18.740
I think I was at LTX and like, I was like at a particular spot and I was like, no, I'm

01:40:18.740 --> 01:40:23.340
going to be, I'm going to be all over the place. Like I, there's literally thousands of people here.

01:40:23.340 --> 01:40:29.540
I don't think that's necessarily as bad. Well, it was, it was, it was, they didn't know where their friend was.

01:40:29.540 --> 01:40:34.020
Oh, well, yeah. Okay. They didn't know how long I was going to be standing there.

01:40:34.020 --> 01:40:39.540
Are you going to be around for like five, 10 more minutes? No, it was like, I will be back at some indeterminate amount of time.

01:40:39.540 --> 01:40:42.540
Stay here. Yeah, that sucks. Bro, I can't do that.

01:40:42.540 --> 01:40:46.300
There's no way. The other one though is where I'm saying that like, I've actually find they're actually

01:40:46.300 --> 01:40:49.900
pretty often like helpful is very funny interaction.

01:40:49.900 --> 01:40:55.060
There was a, there was a YouTuber that I have enjoyed watching it for amount at PAX who

01:40:55.060 --> 01:41:01.260
had a little booth and they were filming these five minute podcast things, which I didn't

01:41:01.260 --> 01:41:07.140
really know what that was about, but it said, ask me about five minute podcasts.

01:41:07.140 --> 01:41:12.100
So I just walked up to the booth thing and was like, Hey, love your stuff, shook his

01:41:12.100 --> 01:41:15.340
hand and was like, that's it. I just wanted to say I like your stuff.

01:41:15.340 --> 01:41:18.740
And then I was like, before I leave, what's this five minute podcast thing?

01:41:18.740 --> 01:41:23.940
And he's like, okay, let's film one. And I was like, all right, sure.

01:41:23.940 --> 01:41:26.980
So we just, I like just stood in front of the camera and filmed this like thing with

01:41:26.980 --> 01:41:29.980
them. And he's like, all right, cool. Bye.

01:41:30.340 --> 01:41:34.820
Two different people like said hi and wanted selfies. And I was like, that was the best timing ever.

01:41:34.820 --> 01:41:36.700
Cause now he's like, who the hell is this guy?

01:41:38.500 --> 01:41:41.620
That's great. And I hope it comes out at some point.

01:41:41.620 --> 01:41:45.860
So I'd like to see it, but I've had times when I'm at a meeting with a potential sponsor

01:41:45.860 --> 01:41:49.580
at a trade show and someone will come up to my table and ask to take a selfie.

01:41:49.580 --> 01:41:56.580
And they're like, huge, huge. It's amazing how the timing can be so good, especially in the early days, it was amazing

01:41:56.580 --> 01:42:04.300
how one person walking up during the meeting meant so much more than 300,000 subscribers.

01:42:04.700 --> 01:42:07.780
Yep. Which is, it's, it's, it's how palpable it is.

01:42:07.980 --> 01:42:11.300
Yeah. It was, uh, it was fantastic when dating.

01:42:15.500 --> 01:42:20.100
It was wild when dating. Every time I went out, I was like, please.

01:42:22.660 --> 01:42:24.780
And then it would happen and it was so good.

01:42:27.580 --> 01:42:30.380
You could at least pretend not to enjoy it that much.

01:42:30.780 --> 01:42:35.580
It was great. Yeah. Okay. Fair enough. It was great. You got to play it off as if you're not like, oh, thank God.

01:42:37.180 --> 01:42:37.780
It is what it is.

01:42:41.180 --> 01:42:43.580
All right. So fame and chicken.

01:42:44.180 --> 01:42:47.380
Yeah, dude. That should be the name of your memoir.

01:42:54.780 --> 01:42:56.780
Yeah. Did you ever have anyone think it was fake?

01:42:57.780 --> 01:43:02.380
Like you paid someone to do that? No, I don't think so. Well, none that said anything.

01:43:02.380 --> 01:43:05.580
Oh, okay. I mean, maybe, but I don't think so. Okay.

01:43:05.580 --> 01:43:11.380
So I'm ready to, I'm ready to acknowledge the outer wear that I am wearing right now.

01:43:11.380 --> 01:43:20.780
Yeah. Cause it's starting to activate. So what's cool about this particular jacket is that it uses a thermochromic material.

01:43:21.180 --> 01:43:27.980
It's not like the warmest layer ever. It's kind of like a lightly puffy jacket that's meant to be kind of layered on,

01:43:28.780 --> 01:43:37.180
but it isn't, it is an outer layer. So it's kind of like a like a fall, like a late fall, early spring, or like a layered

01:43:37.180 --> 01:43:44.380
up winter, depending on your climate. But what's cool about it is that if for whatever reason you find yourself indoors

01:43:44.380 --> 01:43:49.780
or somewhere warmer or there's a spot, oh, wait, yeah, let's go this way.

01:43:49.780 --> 01:43:52.580
Or there's a spot on the jacket where it kind of folds in on itself.

01:43:52.980 --> 01:44:04.780
It's color changing. So cool. So it ends up with this kind of kind of like flame like, like kind of fiery sort of look

01:44:04.780 --> 01:44:11.180
to it that as soon as I saw the material, I was like, okay, I don't know.

01:44:11.180 --> 01:44:17.880
I think it's really cool. And, and obviously it invites, you know, I was going to say playing with it because

01:44:17.880 --> 01:44:21.580
your skin temperature is enough to activate it. My hands are really cold.

01:44:21.780 --> 01:44:25.580
Oh, yeah. Do you have warm hands? Yeah. All right, hit me. Right there. Right there, buddy.

01:44:26.380 --> 01:44:28.880
How long does it take? Is that good? Yeah, it should be fine.

01:44:29.480 --> 01:44:32.980
Yeah, there it is. He's always such a warm boy.

01:44:37.780 --> 01:44:43.680
I was going to say, yeah, decent tactical choice to, to like if you, if you have a

01:44:43.680 --> 01:44:48.180
girlfriend and you want them to be, give excuses to hug you all the time.

01:44:48.180 --> 01:44:51.380
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you'd get the ARM wrap around the back.

01:44:51.380 --> 01:44:58.580
Yep. Oh yeah, a hundred percent. Yeah. So it's, it's one of those things that some people really like and some people

01:44:58.580 --> 01:45:05.580
will not, but I saw the material and I was like, okay, I, I, I need us to do

01:45:05.580 --> 01:45:08.580
something with this. So we did a jacket. I think it's pretty cool.

01:45:08.580 --> 01:45:09.680
Yeah. Very cool.

01:45:11.780 --> 01:45:15.080
Um, all right. How expensive is it?

01:45:15.380 --> 01:45:18.280
I don't know. All right. Well, cool.

01:45:18.380 --> 01:45:21.180
Answer that question. All right. What are we supposed to be doing?

01:45:22.580 --> 01:45:27.080
Ah, yes. The real self-driving was the friends we made along the way.

01:45:27.580 --> 01:45:34.080
Um, sources electric.co. Tesla has changed the definition of full self-driving.

01:45:34.080 --> 01:45:41.380
You see, FSD, um, is not fully unsupervised autonomous driving.

01:45:41.580 --> 01:45:46.180
Go to sleep in the driver's seat, wake up at your destination like we said it

01:45:46.180 --> 01:45:52.680
would be, um, when we charged as much as $15,000 for it.

01:45:53.580 --> 01:45:56.480
Um, now it has a new definition.

01:45:56.880 --> 01:46:02.680
Uh, FSD now means an advanced driving system, regardless of the

01:46:02.680 --> 01:46:06.580
marketing name used that is capable of performing transportation tasks that

01:46:06.580 --> 01:46:12.980
provide autonomous or similar functionality under specified driving conditions.

01:46:13.780 --> 01:46:19.180
Uh, the author opines that the current version of FSD, which requires constant

01:46:19.180 --> 01:46:22.480
supervision by the driver, could easily fit that description.

01:46:22.880 --> 01:46:29.180
Uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, the automaker has updated their language

01:46:29.180 --> 01:46:34.880
on their website now selling only full self-driving supervised and not the

01:46:34.880 --> 01:46:38.280
previous full self-driving capability FSD.

01:46:38.580 --> 01:46:42.080
So we actually have an image here from this is from electric.

01:46:42.080 --> 01:46:45.920
full self-driving supervised $8,000.

01:46:49.160 --> 01:46:54.800
I don't like that. Beginning in 2016, the company had claimed,

01:46:54.800 --> 01:46:58.760
had claimed past tense now because they have clearly changed their messaging,

01:46:58.760 --> 01:47:01.840
had claimed that all its vehicles in production

01:47:01.840 --> 01:47:06.120
would be capable of unsupervised self-driving.

01:47:06.120 --> 01:47:09.280
Since 2018, CEO Elon Musk has claimed

01:47:09.280 --> 01:47:12.280
that this year is the year only to reach the end of each year

01:47:12.280 --> 01:47:16.360
with the promise unfulfilled. Tesla previously confirmed

01:47:16.360 --> 01:47:20.440
that vehicles produced between 2016 and 2023 do not have the proper hardware

01:47:20.440 --> 01:47:23.320
to deliver the promised unsupervised self-driving.

01:47:24.480 --> 01:47:28.680
Their CEO has discussed upgrading the computers in these vehicles, but there doesn't appear to be

01:47:28.680 --> 01:47:33.440
even a concept of a plan for implementing this upgrade.

01:47:33.440 --> 01:47:38.960
Very cool. I remember having an infuriating conversation

01:47:38.960 --> 01:47:43.960
with finance bro at a party once.

01:47:44.840 --> 01:47:50.320
I know this story. That basically boiled down to,

01:47:50.320 --> 01:47:55.880
I cover tech for a living and Tesla has a serious problem with their tech.

01:47:55.880 --> 01:47:59.280
And the counter argument was,

01:47:59.280 --> 01:48:03.360
lots of super smart people have invested, so there's no way they won't deliver on this.

01:48:03.360 --> 01:48:06.600
It must be good. And I tried to, I said,

01:48:06.680 --> 01:48:11.600
well, do you want to see the tweet where Elon admitted that the cars they've been selling

01:48:11.600 --> 01:48:15.800
for all these years can't do it, didn't want to see it.

01:48:15.800 --> 01:48:19.720
And I was told that I just didn't understand finance

01:48:19.720 --> 01:48:23.200
and that the details of the tech didn't matter.

01:48:23.200 --> 01:48:29.480
And I was like, right, but people invest in this company

01:48:29.480 --> 01:48:35.040
because of the tech, right? Like that's what theoretically people,

01:48:35.120 --> 01:48:38.400
as far as I can tell, Tesla has gone full meme stock

01:48:38.400 --> 01:48:41.560
at this point. The stock market wall, almost the whole stock market has.

01:48:41.560 --> 01:48:45.400
I wouldn't say almost all. I'd say like, there's a lot of high profile examples

01:48:45.400 --> 01:48:48.480
these days, but not almost all. But a lot of the high profile examples

01:48:48.480 --> 01:48:51.480
is where a lot of the money in the stock market is sitting currently.

01:48:51.480 --> 01:48:52.320
Yeah.

01:48:56.120 --> 01:48:59.480
Ginger nutted in Floatplane chat says here's the... Ginger nutted?

01:48:59.480 --> 01:49:03.160
Yeah. I like it. I thought that was worth reading out loud.

01:49:05.760 --> 01:49:10.800
Oh, no, that's not actually the tweet

01:49:10.800 --> 01:49:14.120
that I was referring to. There was one where he far more explicitly admitted

01:49:14.120 --> 01:49:18.200
that FSD, whatever the hardware level was

01:49:18.200 --> 01:49:21.280
that was up until a couple of years ago, three, I think,

01:49:21.280 --> 01:49:24.720
was just never going to be capable of it.

01:49:24.720 --> 01:49:29.880
And it was already clear, like way before that, that it wouldn't be capable because they were already using

01:49:29.880 --> 01:49:36.080
both of what were supposed to be the redundant computers in order to achieve full level four or level five.

01:49:36.080 --> 01:49:39.720
You have to have redundancy, but they like didn't because they were using the whole thing already.

01:49:39.720 --> 01:49:43.400
So people had known for ages that it was just never going to be able to do it.

01:49:43.400 --> 01:49:47.920
It just took them a really long time to admit it. I just, I don't know, man.

01:49:47.920 --> 01:49:52.920
People, I often get accused of being an Elon hater,

01:49:52.920 --> 01:49:58.200
but what it really boils down to is I don't respect people who lie to me constantly

01:49:58.200 --> 01:50:02.760
over and over and over again and just expect me to keep believing them

01:50:03.800 --> 01:50:06.880
because I feel that that shows disrespect to me

01:50:06.880 --> 01:50:12.080
and therefore I cannot respect that. If you make a good faith effort to follow through

01:50:12.080 --> 01:50:18.000
on the things that you tell me, or if you have the self-awareness to apologize

01:50:18.000 --> 01:50:24.320
and make good, then that makes a big difference. But if you just lie over and over and over

01:50:24.320 --> 01:50:27.720
and over and over and over again,

01:50:27.720 --> 01:50:31.880
then I just, I don't, I don't respect that. I can't respect that.

01:50:31.880 --> 01:50:36.560
So there you go. It's kind of, it's kind of that simple.

01:50:36.560 --> 01:50:41.160
I remember having a conversation with a family member

01:50:41.160 --> 01:50:46.160
about a particular politician. And I basically just went, well, you know,

01:50:46.160 --> 01:50:48.440
here's an example of a bulb-faced lie.

01:50:49.560 --> 01:50:53.480
You know, why did they say that? It's demonstrably false. And he went, I don't know.

01:50:53.480 --> 01:50:58.280
And I went, well, yeah, I can tell you why. It's because he doesn't respect you.

01:50:58.280 --> 01:51:01.440
He doesn't think you are smart enough or detail-oriented enough

01:51:01.440 --> 01:51:06.000
or conscientious enough to care.

01:51:06.000 --> 01:51:10.080
And that's not respectful.

01:51:10.080 --> 01:51:16.000
And that was kind of a turning point, which was very, which was a major, major relief.

01:51:16.000 --> 01:51:19.040
And to be clear, I intentionally kept that vague.

01:51:19.040 --> 01:51:22.560
I think that could apply to pretty much any politician.

01:51:23.920 --> 01:51:28.920
There's just degrees of brazen untruthfulness.

01:51:30.920 --> 01:51:36.360
Extremely off topic, but I want to bring it up before I forget. I saw Jaden in chat and this reminded me.

01:51:36.360 --> 01:51:39.680
He sent me a message after last WAN Show,

01:51:39.680 --> 01:51:43.480
where he said, regarding WAN Show discussion, it is possible to assign different icons

01:51:43.480 --> 01:51:46.680
to notifications, Android only,

01:51:46.680 --> 01:51:49.680
and WhatsApp already shows profile image and notifications.

01:51:51.440 --> 01:51:56.040
You mentioned having, I think it was different icons for channels.

01:51:56.040 --> 01:51:59.280
So we could do it. We could do it Android only, apparently.

01:51:59.760 --> 01:52:03.120
I don't know that we're gonna do that right now. No, don't bother then. I think it'd be better to just have feature parody

01:52:03.120 --> 01:52:06.400
and wait for Apple to catch up. I mean, they eventually do.

01:52:06.400 --> 01:52:09.960
Sure, sure. Or maybe they just won't. I don't know.

01:52:09.960 --> 01:52:13.320
I hadn't noticed it before. He mentioned, I think he,

01:52:13.320 --> 01:52:16.880
oh wow, I already forgot I just put it down. I am pretty tired from all the traveling.

01:52:18.160 --> 01:52:21.320
Yeah, WhatsApp already shows profile image. So WhatsApp already does it,

01:52:21.320 --> 01:52:26.680
but I don't use WhatsApp very much. So I didn't see it there. And not a lot of other apps that I use

01:52:26.680 --> 01:52:30.960
seem to use this feature. And I suspect it's because of

01:52:30.960 --> 01:52:34.440
just having identical apps on both platforms, but I don't know.

01:52:36.080 --> 01:52:39.800
So yeah, apparently that is a thing. I just, I think, I don't remember exactly how I worded it,

01:52:39.800 --> 01:52:43.000
but I think I said that I didn't think it was. So apparently it is.

01:52:43.000 --> 01:52:49.000
What is the consequence gonna be for this full self-driving, full advertising?

01:52:50.520 --> 01:52:54.760
Is, are the regulators going to be empowered

01:52:54.800 --> 01:52:58.640
and are they going to have the stones to follow through?

01:52:58.640 --> 01:53:01.880
Is it gonna come down to individual owners

01:53:01.880 --> 01:53:04.920
to class action this? Like, how is this gonna play out?

01:53:04.920 --> 01:53:08.520
Because I think you could make the argument

01:53:08.520 --> 01:53:14.280
that a substantial portion, like if Corsair had to pay five and a half million dollars

01:53:14.280 --> 01:53:17.960
because some people didn't have XMP on by default

01:53:17.960 --> 01:53:23.800
in their gaming computer, right? Like we're talking a hundred, $300 purchase, right?

01:53:23.840 --> 01:53:27.160
Some DDR4 memory. Yeah.

01:53:27.160 --> 01:53:30.960
How much will Tesla owe when people figure out

01:53:30.960 --> 01:53:34.680
that the decade of cars they sold

01:53:34.680 --> 01:53:41.440
are not and will never be capable of fully autonomous driving as they were advertised to be?

01:53:41.440 --> 01:53:45.160
Meanwhile, and this is gonna be tough to see amongst all the ads,

01:53:45.160 --> 01:53:47.200
but there is a headline in the middle there.

01:53:48.960 --> 01:53:52.680
Did you hear about this? Yeah, so I think this is a really,

01:53:52.680 --> 01:53:54.640
honestly, I actually,

01:53:56.200 --> 01:53:59.280
okay, I'm gonna have kind of a controversial take on this one.

01:53:59.280 --> 01:54:01.440
I think that this is,

01:54:02.480 --> 01:54:07.480
see, I have in the past attributed to 4D chess,

01:54:08.360 --> 01:54:11.560
what actually turned out to be phenomenal stupidity.

01:54:11.560 --> 01:54:15.960
Right. So I hate making the same mistake more than once.

01:54:15.960 --> 01:54:20.520
However, this one smells like a bit of 4D chess to me

01:54:21.520 --> 01:54:28.040
because the conditions for that pay package are that the company will have to reach a valuation

01:54:28.040 --> 01:54:32.600
that simply isn't going to happen. Optimus is already dead in the water

01:54:32.600 --> 01:54:35.960
and everybody knows it. It says specifically they have to ship

01:54:35.960 --> 01:54:41.840
like an incredible amount of Optimus. Yeah, they ship like 300,000 Optimuses a month

01:54:41.840 --> 01:54:46.720
or something like that. True. What were the numbers? Get me the Optimus numbers here.

01:54:46.720 --> 01:54:53.320
So Optimus is their robot that like is already just a piece of dog compared

01:54:53.320 --> 01:54:57.840
to like unitary models for a few grand and that they think they're gonna sell for $200

01:54:57.840 --> 01:55:01.680
to $300,000 each. Like, to who? What are you even talking about?

01:55:01.680 --> 01:55:06.200
I don't even think that article said, I'm looking for another one. Optimus is dead in the water with what logic?

01:55:06.200 --> 01:55:11.800
With the logic of the head of the program who just left and was like, peace.

01:55:12.760 --> 01:55:17.160
Optimus is dead in the water because they are so far behind.

01:55:17.160 --> 01:55:20.760
They can't figure out hands. They can't figure out the AI side.

01:55:20.760 --> 01:55:23.800
They can't figure out mobility. So many of the demos that you've seen

01:55:23.800 --> 01:55:29.400
have just been remote telepresence effectively of like a human just operating it remotely.

01:55:29.400 --> 01:55:32.060
Guys, Optimus is smoke and mirrors.

01:55:33.580 --> 01:55:36.800
So yeah, here we go. Here we go.

01:55:38.120 --> 01:55:41.120
One million robot deliveries

01:55:43.440 --> 01:55:48.080
in a one million robot taxes and opera. Yeah, like this stuff's not happening.

01:55:49.880 --> 01:55:55.240
So yeah. So basically, this one smells to me

01:55:55.240 --> 01:55:59.520
like it's just supposed to grab headlines with a giant big number

01:55:59.520 --> 01:56:05.880
and it's supposed to help pump the stock because oh, well, if this pay package exists,

01:56:05.880 --> 01:56:12.400
then there's this path to this. But I mean, obviously none of that is happening.

01:56:12.400 --> 01:56:15.940
There's no way that you could be on enough substances

01:56:15.940 --> 01:56:23.800
to think that you're gonna sell that many of a product that literally you would have to have a 1000% tariff on it

01:56:23.800 --> 01:56:27.680
to make Optimus at the price that they have sort of floated.

01:56:27.680 --> 01:56:31.080
You'd have to have a 1000% tariff on it to make it competitive with something

01:56:31.080 --> 01:56:33.080
that Unitree is shipping like right now.

01:56:35.560 --> 01:56:40.640
I do know that a counter argument is that this is what was said about his first pay package.

01:56:40.640 --> 01:56:47.480
Sure. That was when the company was poised for immense growth.

01:56:47.520 --> 01:56:52.280
And had a lot of positivity surrounding it and stuff. Show me the immense growth that were poised for.

01:56:52.280 --> 01:56:57.680
I mean, in the US, sales are tanking in Europe. In the US, the incentives are going away.

01:56:57.680 --> 01:57:01.640
There was a robot at EFA at a booth

01:57:01.640 --> 01:57:08.840
where it was a humanoid robot except it had two like airplane cables

01:57:08.840 --> 01:57:12.440
hanging it from the ceiling because it couldn't stand on its own.

01:57:12.440 --> 01:57:16.120
And it was like leaning over or hanging off these cables.

01:57:16.120 --> 01:57:20.000
And it was sorting laundry, but like one out of three times

01:57:20.000 --> 01:57:24.800
that it tried to grab a piece of clothing, it would just like fail.

01:57:24.800 --> 01:57:28.880
And all it was doing was like sorting colors and whites for washing.

01:57:28.880 --> 01:57:33.880
And it was so incredibly slow. And then it got like three quarters of the way through

01:57:33.880 --> 01:57:37.840
and it just could not grab them anymore because I guess it was too far down

01:57:37.840 --> 01:57:41.320
and it couldn't like bend because it was held by these cables.

01:57:41.320 --> 01:57:45.240
So they had to re pour the clothes back into the middle one so that it could keep going.

01:57:45.280 --> 01:57:49.440
It was so brutal to watch. It was so raw.

01:57:49.440 --> 01:57:55.880
Who was this? I don't remember the brand. It's in the the Floatplane walkthrough with Sammy and I.

01:57:55.880 --> 01:58:00.280
Breakdown says I'd pay good money for a real laundry folding machine. You better believe it, me too.

01:58:00.280 --> 01:58:04.320
Oh, it wasn't even folding. It was just sorting. Oh, wow. It was just picking it up out of one basket

01:58:04.320 --> 01:58:09.040
and putting it into another. So actually useless then. It was really bad, yeah.

01:58:09.040 --> 01:58:09.880
Nice.

01:58:16.160 --> 01:58:20.120
I feel like this is something completely different.

01:58:20.120 --> 01:58:26.320
This is a cooking robot at EFA 25 that appears to be doing basically nothing useful.

01:58:27.280 --> 01:58:30.920
Yeah, no, it wasn't a cooking one. Very cool.

01:58:30.920 --> 01:58:33.800
It's in the float. We could like kind of show that bit maybe.

01:58:35.920 --> 01:58:40.600
Bring it up. So circuit king 98 says LLMs, not LLM specifically

01:58:40.600 --> 01:58:44.000
but I think you mean AI. We'll unlock the humanoid robot market.

01:58:44.000 --> 01:58:47.360
It's so early people said the same thing about full self-driving eight years ago.

01:58:47.360 --> 01:58:51.640
Okay, so there's a couple of things we got to kind of talk about here.

01:58:51.640 --> 01:58:55.400
The full self-driving car. Yeah, that's still not done.

01:58:55.400 --> 01:59:00.000
So that's one critical thing. The other issue is that I'm not saying

01:59:00.000 --> 01:59:06.200
the humanoid robot market isn't coming. I'm saying it's not coming at $200 to $300,000 a unit.

01:59:06.200 --> 01:59:09.800
That's the problem. Humanoid robots are gonna be enormous.

01:59:09.800 --> 01:59:13.160
Yeah, it's gonna be huge. I guarantee you it's gonna be freaking huge.

01:59:13.160 --> 01:59:18.980
Huge. The issue is that specifically Optimus is so far behind

01:59:20.180 --> 01:59:23.940
and way, way too expensive. That's the problem.

01:59:23.940 --> 01:59:29.940
I'm talking specifically about Optimus. Nothing that they've shown me gives me any Optimus-ism

01:59:29.940 --> 01:59:34.660
about how that program is going to proceed. And I can be wrong.

01:59:34.660 --> 01:59:39.200
It's happened before. Optimus could end up being 10 times better

01:59:39.200 --> 01:59:43.620
than what's coming out of other robotics companies. I haven't even talked about Boston Dynamics at this point.

01:59:43.620 --> 01:59:48.620
Like Optimus is so far behind right now.

01:59:49.020 --> 01:59:52.620
And they could magically catch up. And that is a possibility.

01:59:52.620 --> 01:59:55.660
And if I'm wrong, I will say I was wrong.

01:59:55.660 --> 02:00:00.100
Optimus is the prime robot.

02:00:00.100 --> 02:00:04.040
I just, I don't see a path to it right now. That's all. Okay.

02:00:04.040 --> 02:00:05.540
So this is from,

02:00:08.220 --> 02:00:11.180
this is from Luke and Sammy to the EFA show floor.

02:00:11.540 --> 02:00:18.700
I'm not going to bother get Dan to get the audio going or anything, but you can see here when he zooms in.

02:00:18.980 --> 02:00:23.140
So this is a little bit blurry cause we're like zoomed in over the crowd,

02:00:23.140 --> 02:00:26.740
but you can see a hook here and then a wire that goes up

02:00:27.680 --> 02:00:30.840
and behind the play button, there's another hook.

02:00:30.840 --> 02:00:34.780
There we go. You can see on both of his shoulders, there's hooks and then wires going up.

02:00:34.780 --> 02:00:38.860
He's being held up by the airplane cables to the ceiling.

02:00:38.860 --> 02:00:41.940
So it can't stand on its own. There's three baskets here on the bottom.

02:00:41.940 --> 02:00:45.900
You can see the one in the middle has actually like a bunch of clothes in it and then one on each side.

02:00:45.900 --> 02:00:52.180
The basket on from our perspective, the right is for like plain.

02:00:53.580 --> 02:00:55.940
I would say you're probably closer to center. My God.

02:00:57.140 --> 02:01:01.060
From our perspective, the right, the, that basket is for plain whites.

02:01:01.060 --> 02:01:05.060
And then the basket on the left is for colored fabrics.

02:01:05.060 --> 02:01:09.380
Oh my God. The middle is the unsorted. Hamnetic says that's robot at Bernice.

02:01:11.180 --> 02:01:15.340
Look how slow it is.

02:01:15.340 --> 02:01:19.580
Oh man. What is the possible use of this?

02:01:19.580 --> 02:01:22.900
I mean, I get it. The point is to show progress. And then look, fail.

02:01:24.740 --> 02:01:28.500
And try again. Wait, this is in real time. This is not slow mo.

02:01:28.500 --> 02:01:33.820
This is in real time. It actually footage skipped there for a second. I think Sammy cut some of it out because it was so boring.

02:01:33.820 --> 02:01:37.460
Oh yeah. And then this one, it has like a hard time getting it out of the basket.

02:01:37.700 --> 02:01:42.100
So it takes this whole time and okay.

02:01:42.100 --> 02:01:45.700
It finally got it. Then it goes again. It's so rough.

02:01:45.700 --> 02:01:48.820
It takes forever. Oh man.

02:01:51.820 --> 02:01:56.940
The company is neuro robotics. Yeah, I don't know. And you know, maybe they have something else that's good.

02:01:56.940 --> 02:02:01.700
I don't know. Whatever. It's just that was, that was like tough to watch.

02:02:01.700 --> 02:02:04.940
I would not have brought that to a show to show it off.

02:02:04.940 --> 02:02:08.020
Personally. I mean, it depends where you started.

02:02:08.020 --> 02:02:12.700
Maybe, maybe, you know, maybe six months ago, it couldn't pick up the clothes at all.

02:02:12.700 --> 02:02:14.660
Maybe this is progress. Sure.

02:02:16.260 --> 02:02:21.260
And, you know, I'm not super informed on robotics right now.

02:02:22.340 --> 02:02:26.940
Maybe that is good for some reason. Like maybe it was doing something somehow

02:02:26.940 --> 02:02:30.180
that was good for some reason. And you wanted investors or something.

02:02:30.180 --> 02:02:33.500
Cause IFA is a weird show. There's a really wide range.

02:02:33.500 --> 02:02:36.720
Yeah, I've never been actually. Yeah. This is your first time?

02:02:36.720 --> 02:02:42.740
This is my first time. There was genuinely just like general public

02:02:42.740 --> 02:02:48.580
wanted to go see stuff for funsies people there. There was people that were like definitely buying

02:02:48.580 --> 02:02:52.340
for like European stores that needed stock for things.

02:02:53.900 --> 02:02:57.020
So, you know, maybe there was investors there as well. I don't know.

02:02:57.020 --> 02:03:01.060
Avon Fox in Floatplane chat says it's actually pretty astounding that it can adapt

02:03:01.060 --> 02:03:04.100
to something like fabric. As a tech demo, it's amazing.

02:03:04.100 --> 02:03:07.300
As a product, it's obviously not. Yeah. And let's see, okay.

02:03:07.300 --> 02:03:11.660
So fair enough. And maybe they're looking for investors. They're looking to hire people or whatever. I don't know what the objective was.

02:03:11.660 --> 02:03:16.340
I'm used to going to CES where they're trying to sell

02:03:16.340 --> 02:03:20.020
or get in the media. Right. So this might have actually been a different objective

02:03:20.020 --> 02:03:23.420
and I'm just not used to it. So, you know what? I'm not trying to go after the company.

02:03:23.420 --> 02:03:27.020
I just, oof, that's all.

02:03:27.020 --> 02:03:30.580
As a product right now, which it isn't in its defense.

02:03:30.580 --> 02:03:33.640
Forget IFA, more like Oofa. Yeah, Oofa.

02:03:34.520 --> 02:03:38.520
Have you seen some of the footage from the like robot,

02:03:38.520 --> 02:03:41.960
the first robot Olympics that they held in China? No.

02:03:41.960 --> 02:03:44.320
Some of it's really impressive. Most of it's really funny.

02:03:47.120 --> 02:03:52.920
This is, I don't think this is from the robot Olympics, but this is from like our robot martial arts fight.

02:03:52.920 --> 02:03:54.520
This one falls under funny.

02:03:56.480 --> 02:03:57.320
Oh.

02:04:00.800 --> 02:04:02.360
This is from the independent.

02:04:04.640 --> 02:04:09.720
There's so much more. You guys are gonna have to go check this out.

02:04:09.720 --> 02:04:14.040
They're also just like shadow boxing, like 15, 20 feet away from each other,

02:04:14.040 --> 02:04:18.720
just before they actually get close enough to,

02:04:18.720 --> 02:04:21.840
I don't know, maybe land a blow. I don't know if they ever actually do land

02:04:21.840 --> 02:04:25.240
and he hits on each other. Anyway, it's cute.

02:04:31.960 --> 02:04:35.000
Oh, Floatplane announcement. What's the Floatplane announcement?

02:04:36.160 --> 02:04:40.520
It's down. Oh, okay. I moved it so you wouldn't yell at me. Well, then I couldn't find it, Dan.

02:04:40.520 --> 02:04:44.720
Did you ever think of that? Oh, wow. Oh my God.

02:04:44.720 --> 02:04:49.720
We did a seven hour director's commentary

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for Scrap Yard Wars 10. It's with a games master, David,

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as well as basically everyone except me and Luke.

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So that's Hoffman. I'm in like 10 minutes of it. They had me call in. Oh, are you in it?

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Oh, cool. They didn't ask me. You didn't blatantly cheat.

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What? I didn't cheat. We didn't know. No, apparently we did.

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You should, what? We thought we got permission for something

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and David thinks we did not. I'm glad we, I swear we did.

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What, got permission for what? Don't worry about it.

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No, if you wanna know, you should watch the director's

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commentary. If you wanna know, you gotta subscribe to Floatplane and watch seven hours of video. What do you mean?

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I think we lost. Spoilers, I guess.

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What do you, we'll hold on a second.

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I thought line is new. I didn't mean to open this worm can.

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I'm reading the comments. I don't know if it's even in there. Usually the comments will tell me what was in the video.

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Control F, C-A-H-E-A. The comments are about you cheating.

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Next time, Dan should be on Linus's team

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and do the same amount of cheating.

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So Dan knows the answer. Oh no, we both know the answer.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, but. But I thought you were aware before this.

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Okay, Dan.

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I mean, we talked to David about this. Talked to David about what? We super talked to David about it.

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But there must have been a miscommunication. If you talked to David about something, then you have to have the camera rolling, so.

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There must have been a miscommunication. You must have had your tentacle.

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There was mic packs rolling. Okay, well then, where's the audio

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of you talking to David? I think it's in the commentary thing, maybe.

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No, I think it was found in the edit and they just kind of brought it up later.

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I can't quite remember, I don't know. Okay, so what did you guys do?

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You gotta watch the full- I'm not gonna watch the seven hour video

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to find out the answer to one question. I think it actually was just at the start

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to be perfectly honest. What happened?

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We were like, hey, somebody at work

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is getting rid of stuff. Can we get this stuff for them?

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Excuse me?

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What part of you cannot use your influence?

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But you can ask for anything. No.

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You can ask David for anything. What? You have super broken the rules like crazy

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before by asking David. What are you talking about?

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What rule breaking? I could go dig up some examples. I mean, just in this episode,

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just in this episode, there was a rule that you had to go out,

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you had to stay in pairs and you guys sent out one because you asked David. But it explicitly said in the rules

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that you can ask for an exception to that. Explicitly.

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What do you mean you don't know? I didn't know it said an exception for that one.

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Yes, it did. No, I'm not saying it didn't. I just didn't know that.

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Okay. Dude, that's been a rule of Scrapyard Wars for years.

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You cannot use your influence. And I would say asking a friend or co-worker

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or family member falls pretty clearly. No, it wasn't asking.

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They were going to give it away for free anyways.

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So it was like, could we know the... That's why we clarified it with David.

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...whereabouts or something. And then acquire it that way.

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It's a very good thing that,

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you know what, whatever. It's been out for over a week now.

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It's a very good thing that you guys lost.

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See, I thought it was crazy.

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I thought it was crazy. I thought he was going to say no no matter what. And then when he said yes,

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I thought it was because we must have been getting stomped and he was trying to show runner it and make it closer.

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Oh yeah, same. I think what we discussed during this seven hour video,

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he was on so many painkillers. And I think there was just a miscommunication,

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but we did ask. So yeah, whatever.

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Because my thing was like, there's no one that's going to fly, but you can ask if you want.

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I think we'll be way more careful next year. Yeah, if there is a next year.

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Luke Band, Dan Band. That is wild.

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That is wild. Because I mean, dude, I mean, I got friends.

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You know, I could be like, hey, Shroud. No, no, no.

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Do you have any old gaming PCs you're planning to give away? There was no asking.

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There was no asking involved.

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I thought that might have been what made it okay. I still, he, I think he just didn't understand

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what we were saying. Probably because he was on painkillers. It's whatever.

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Okay. So what did you get? It was the speakers or something.

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Speakers. So that's how you got a speaker set up for free.

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Yeah. I mean, I got a speaker set up in the last grab and it works for free that was arguably better.

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So I don't know.

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I also actually thought that's why he okayed it was cause it's like actually not that hard to get audio stuff

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for super cheap. I had to pay for my audio stuff. The last grab room was like a wicked audio set up

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with an amp and everything. If you remember that, that was all, was it free?

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Or was it like? I think it was almost free. Like like $3 or something?

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Yeah. Listen to him reminiscing about last time, but we're not talking about last time, Luke.

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We're talking about this time. Oh man.

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That is. And look, look.

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I understand that there were a fair number of folks upset

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about the fact that my PC was not powered on.

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Oh, no, we talked about that as well. We talked about that as well.

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We were talking about racing rules. I don't think it should have been,

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but I also don't think I should have been able to do a game service thing,

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but both of those were totally within the rules. There's definitely some stuff we're gonna have to revise

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about the rules. But the thing about Scrapyard Wars is it has always been the letter of the law

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and what you can get away with to win.

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Yeah, I thought the computer in the corner

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was clever more than anything. It didn't bother me at all. Oh yeah, that was amazing. I wanted to make it furniture.

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So I wanted a table talk for it.

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That would have been great. See like that, that wouldn't bother me at all. That's awesome. That made it into the cut.

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That's awesome. If people did see, I think they released it

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on LMG clips maybe, but I know it was a Floatplane for a bit. Hold on a second, hold on a second.

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VapeDoc in the Floatplane chat says,

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you didn't mention the sub.

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Oh, that was a, this was a, this was a, this was a, that probably would have been

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a bit too far of a stretch. See here's the thing, I don't even understand what you guys needed so much money for.

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Cause quite frankly. We blew it on a projector that barely works.

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Yeah. Yeah, quite frankly. I, I had to, dude, the, the distribution,

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like you guys spent $400 on a couch. I'm sitting here going like, bro, there's 350.

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I don't remember what it was. So I wanted the crappy black one. It was a lot more than ours.

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I know that much. I do think you guys lost more points for your couch.

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Me? Yeah, I think so. You guys should have clearly won to be very clear.

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I'm not trying to, I'm not trying to say that. It was very uncomfortable. It was horrifically uncomfortable.

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Did you sit on the crack at any point? Oh, dude. Even not on the crack though.

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It had the work, dude. It was so bad. The crack was truly a, a seventh level of hell.

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Your guys, the couch was like. 375 bucks.

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Yeah, okay. It was effectively 400 then. Yeah. I thought it was three.

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Did we get a discount from there? No, you got, ours was like, ours was like a hundred or 150 or something.

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I thought we got it for less than three cents. Projector was 800 bucks. Yeah, that was rough.

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Crazy. I didn't, ah, yeah.

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Okay. I don't know enough about projectors. I thought going the projector play was like super good.

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Obviously in hindsight, no, but. I think we got locked into it.

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We talked about this a lot during the director's commentary.

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I feel like we need to like align something. Okay, I feel like we've gotten off topic. I feel like we've gotten off topic.

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Tell me about the subwoofer. Oh, that was mine.

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Okay. That is cheating.

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I think so. That is the most cheatingest thing

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of any scrapyard wars ever. So how did that one fly? I have no idea.

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That is a giant load of. Did you ask about that one?

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Probably. That's a little too blatant for even me.

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Cause my, my general byline was like, if you want to do something whack,

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just make sure you clear with David.

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But then I also didn't know that David was on tons of painkillers.

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No, neither did I. I wasn't aware of that until this stream.

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Exactly, exactly. Oh my God, you guys.

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I'm glad it helped so much.

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Wow. It's really lucky you guys didn't win.

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Cause I think that actually, I think people would have legitimately been mad.

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I think we would have been DQ'd at this point. Oh yeah, absolutely.

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We've never, have we ever disqualified anyone? No, and there's been really egregious cheating in the past.

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I don't think as bad as just bringing parts from home. Probably not.

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I don't even remember what they were, but probably not, no. Wait, didn't we almost disqualify Kyle?

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What did he do? I don't remember. Oh, didn't they just fully actually cheat?

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No. Paul and Kyle in that thing? I thought they did.

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I thought they super did. I don't think so. Did they? They wouldn't cheat.

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Does anyone remember? I haven't watched any of the old crap here. Paul and Kyle were outright DQ'd.

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Yeah, okay. I thought something happened. Okay, apparently,

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apparently we have disqualified someone before. What did they do?

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I don't remember, but I remember something happened.

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They did, they super did. They screwed themselves with V-Sync.

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What are you guys even talking about? Okay, I don't remember.

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We need a cheating addition.

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They used their own drive. Oh, that's right.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because their drive died or something, right? Yeah. So it was actually good for the video.

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Yeah. Because then they were able to present. Cause didn't, did they win?

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Damn, I can't remember anymore. I don't remember. We have to go back and actually like check

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our win-loss records. Cause I think we're pretty close to even now.

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You might still be ahead of me.

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He's like- It's gotta be wicked close or tied. He's like,

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pissed. No, I am. Because I see it as like old gen and new gen.

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Have I told, have I explained this to you before? What? No, I haven't. Cause there was a huge gap.

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A gap? There's a massive time gap in Scrapyard Wars.

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So I see it as old generation Scrapyard Wars and new generation Scrapyard Wars.

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And in new generation Scrapyard Wars, I'm O and two.

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What? Do you only count? So you don't count the one with the teams?

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I'm not counting it. I'm just looking at this split.

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Oh, so since the Scrapyard Wars pause, you're seeing it as like the reboot.

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So in the reboot- Since the reboot, I'm O and two. That's funny.

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And both of them honestly weren't that close, which is like bad.

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It's not great. No, it's not. This last season was by far, in my opinion,

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my worst showing ever. Maybe next time, spend more time.

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Sleeping. Not launching a platform the same week.

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We tried. Yeah. No, I know. No, no, no.

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I really appreciate it. I did everything humanly possible. They actually, for context for the viewership,

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they actually moved Scrapyard Wars a whole week for me.

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So that he wouldn't have the overlap. And then the launch just got delayed.

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So like, I literally sleep. I don't remember a very low amount of hours

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over the entire thing. I think it was like- I was doing 16 hours over five days.

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I think it was less than that. I might have been less. And I know like the first day of shooting,

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like when you see us throwing the money up and stuff, I had been awake for over 30 hours

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while we were filming that. So that was the day he decided to buy a projector.

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Yeah, like, boom. And then we just kind of ran with it. I have no idea.

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Like it was just- It was honestly, if you guys had executed on it perfectly,

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I think you could have won. It was a clever concept. I can't understate how like,

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f***ed we got from not having them out.

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Because actually everyone's time went into

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setting the mount up. And I know the people who actually did the mount stuff are gonna be like, what?

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That's not fair. It is because then that meant we couldn't like drive places.

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Yeah. And but you know what's, you know what the funny part is to me?

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It was so rough. I don't really understand.

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And I mean, I don't mean any disrespect. I know that in a time of like,

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frantically trying to problem solve, sometimes you can come up with not the best solutions.

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But like, why did you guys try to 3D print a mount?

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Why didn't you just go get a piece of wood and just like screw the piece of wood into the thing

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and then just like put it on a fricking like hinge

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or something. Like why did you try to, why did you try to 3D print a mount?

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Put it on a hinge. Like literally just, literally just put a fricking,

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get a piece of wood and literally put a big screw into it

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and fricking bend it. You know, like if you're gonna be jank, just like, just jank it.

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Yeah, we probably should have done that.

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I don't know, but like how, how much time do you think? Put the projector on a shelf.

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I didn't even think of that one, which goes to shelf like you don't- I suggested shelf, yeah.

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Yeah, why don't you just put it on a shelf behind the couch? Why don't we do shelf then?

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They wouldn't go on by one. I got us free shelving,

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so I don't think that makes sense. How much time do you think got spent between you

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and Justin on the mount and mounting it?

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I wasn't involved in the mount.

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Mounting it took like way too long. And you read the 3D print at some point, right?

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No, I had to modify it kind of last day because yeah, no comment, really.

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Chris App says people 3D print things for all kinds of stuff that would be easier

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if you just didn't 3D print it. Well, no, that's a thing for sure.

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But it like, it literally took like a person and a half

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out of the competition for us. Really? Oh yeah, like I genuinely cannot overstate

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how devastating that was. Would have been a lot better to just go to a Home Depot

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and buy some screws and hinges and things. Sure. Alexander the terrible asks,

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can you clarify what the rules were for tools so people can stop saying line is cheated

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for using a freaking paint roller? The rules are that we're allowed to use any tools

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that we could realistically have access to in the office.

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And one 3D printer? And one 3D printer?

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There was also, you were allowed to use your own tools. Oh, okay.

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Tool use was not the problem? Yeah. No, at all. But it was, but materials counted,

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except you had unlimited filament for one printer. For one printer, yeah.

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Yeah. And only one printer. And only one. Cause that's the limiting factor, not the plastic.

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Yeah. I didn't realize that we were allowed to mount stuff

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to the walls with like, they would give us backing wood.

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Like if you wanted to mount a TV to a wall. I had no idea that was a thing

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until they mentioned it in the stream. Same. Did you know that was a thing?

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Yeah. Okay, so none of the contestants knew.

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I would have mounted a TV to the wall though. The reason why I asked if you knew was a thing

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and was pretty sure you didn't, it was cause obviously you would have done that. No, I wouldn't have.

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I didn't have money. I couldn't afford to mount. Dude, I had, I had a dollar 38 left.

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Like we, dude. Yeah, we were down to small amounts.

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But we scrapped harder than you guys this time. We didn't scrap at all actually.

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Yeah. Like you guys paid like, you guys, you guys paid a fortune for your rug.

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You guys paid a fortune for your couch. I think we paid, we paid a lot less than you for a rug,

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I think. Did you? I'm $20. Rug, rug, rug, rug, rug.

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Okay, maybe I'm wrong about the rug, but the couch. The couch was really expensive.

02:21:04.720 --> 02:21:08.400
The couch was $375. We thought we had tons of money. When we got the couch.

02:21:08.400 --> 02:21:11.840
Rug, $25. Okay, you guys slayed on the rug then. I found the rug.

02:21:11.840 --> 02:21:16.200
But just like in general, dude, like I was, I was watching your side. And I was just like, oh my God,

02:21:16.200 --> 02:21:21.760
like how do they have all this money? And it's because they didn't need a compute device.

02:21:21.760 --> 02:21:25.800
Well, yeah. Like we, we spent almost $400 on a PlayStation.

02:21:25.800 --> 02:21:29.440
$112. And then we bought, we bought movies.

02:21:29.440 --> 02:21:33.720
Okay, so there's been a lot of talk about the shadow thing as well.

02:21:33.720 --> 02:21:37.200
And I feel pretty bad for shadow.

02:21:37.200 --> 02:21:40.720
Yeah, they got kind of boned by just our internet being sucked that day.

02:21:40.720 --> 02:21:44.680
I wish it was explained a little bit better. It was explained decently well,

02:21:44.680 --> 02:21:49.880
but I wish there was like almost a disclaimer on screen of how much testing I did.

02:21:49.880 --> 02:21:53.480
Cause this was very explicitly communicated through David. And I think this was actually fine.

02:21:53.480 --> 02:21:57.840
He let me do testing of it when it was acting weird outside of ours.

02:21:59.080 --> 02:22:03.600
I wasn't allowed to actually work on like my own system, but I could run shadow at my house

02:22:03.600 --> 02:22:08.360
and be like, is it working? Right. And I could like go to friends houses

02:22:08.360 --> 02:22:15.760
and be like run shadow, is it working? And it was working perfectly fine the entire week

02:22:15.840 --> 02:22:19.200
everywhere I tested, which was tons of places.

02:22:19.200 --> 02:22:23.480
I don't think this is in the Eula necessarily, but I was sharing the heck out of my account

02:22:23.480 --> 02:22:28.480
with like everyone I knew getting to run it from everywhere they could at all times in day.

02:22:28.480 --> 02:22:31.600
And there was literally never a problem

02:22:31.600 --> 02:22:37.480
except for at our office. And there's something with how our firewall is set up.

02:22:37.480 --> 02:22:42.200
I don't remember. Sean was trying to work on it. I mean, I think that's why our adventure time stream

02:22:42.200 --> 02:22:46.320
looked like crap too. Probably. It was terrible. It looked like 240p.

02:22:46.320 --> 02:22:49.720
There's something weird. And I know that's like literally my department, LOL.

02:22:49.720 --> 02:22:54.120
But there's something weird with how that set up and that totally new shadow.

02:22:54.120 --> 02:22:57.280
That is not, I know there was some comments being like,

02:22:57.280 --> 02:23:01.840
oh, this is just what streaming experience is like. No. And there are some issues there.

02:23:01.840 --> 02:23:08.160
Yes, but no. But not at this level, like at all. We have like an enterprise grade connection here.

02:23:08.160 --> 02:23:12.560
It's like, I forget what the exact whole thing is, but basically it's the closest thing

02:23:12.560 --> 02:23:17.200
to if we had a dedicated fiber line without actually having our own fiber run through the street.

02:23:17.200 --> 02:23:21.960
And we've got like three of them. There is no reason why we should have anything,

02:23:21.960 --> 02:23:25.160
but the cleanest possible connection to Vanix,

02:23:25.160 --> 02:23:30.360
which should have the cleanest possible connection. I've had somebody on a copper 100-100 line.

02:23:30.360 --> 02:23:35.200
That ran it great on like a eight year old computer.

02:23:35.200 --> 02:23:39.120
Like this was not, it was not shadow.

02:23:39.120 --> 02:23:42.160
Yeah. So like, I don't know. It was just bad luck.

02:23:42.160 --> 02:23:45.640
The projector, all right, cool. Yeah.

02:23:45.640 --> 02:23:50.760
That was not great. Did not executive decision that call just to be very clear?

02:23:50.760 --> 02:23:56.600
Yeah. But we were also saying like, you know, sports,

02:23:56.600 --> 02:24:00.600
if only I had made that pass. If only I had trained a bit harder,

02:24:00.600 --> 02:24:05.840
if only I didn't come to work drunk, if only I, you know, it's like,

02:24:05.840 --> 02:24:09.600
you can go look back forever in highlights and stuff like that.

02:24:09.600 --> 02:24:13.560
The projector, I wish we didn't make that call, shadow.

02:24:13.560 --> 02:24:17.760
You guys could have gotten away with the projector if you had also painted the room.

02:24:17.760 --> 02:24:21.800
I can. I originally wanted to do silver screen, but there's so much,

02:24:21.800 --> 02:24:25.480
and I don't think we should necessarily talk about it on stream,

02:24:25.480 --> 02:24:29.080
but there is a lot of reasons and stuff that we don't really want to go into right now.

02:24:29.080 --> 02:24:32.840
I can't explain how torpedoed the team got when we didn't get them out.

02:24:34.200 --> 02:24:38.200
When I'm saying a person and a half, at least a person and a half,

02:24:38.200 --> 02:24:41.600
we're just removed from the competition when we didn't get that mouth. That's rough.

02:24:41.600 --> 02:24:44.920
And yeah, we should have just mounted it in the easier way, whatever.

02:24:44.920 --> 02:24:48.480
I also don't even, I mean, I watched the interaction where they picked it up.

02:24:48.480 --> 02:24:52.200
I don't even blame them for taking the projector because you guys had decided on the projector

02:24:52.200 --> 02:24:56.440
and you did say get them out, but like also like,

02:24:56.440 --> 02:25:00.360
you're trying to, you're trying to, like you're under your under time constraint.

02:25:00.360 --> 02:25:03.600
Like I understand why they made the call to just take it anyway and go,

02:25:03.600 --> 02:25:08.840
yeah, we can figure out a mount because it can't be that hard. I didn't know there was a mount properly.

02:25:08.840 --> 02:25:11.880
You know, otherwise it would have been like, no, we need them out.

02:25:11.880 --> 02:25:16.560
But I hear you. It was communicated, but even then I wouldn't assume like, okay, look,

02:25:16.560 --> 02:25:19.600
if somebody sent me to go get a camera

02:25:19.600 --> 02:25:23.200
and they told me, yeah, it doesn't have like the plate that goes under it. I'd be like, well, yeah, I mean,

02:25:23.200 --> 02:25:26.840
I'm still buying the camera. I'll figure out, I'll figure out a plate.

02:25:26.840 --> 02:25:30.080
Like that can't be that hard. I wouldn't think that getting a projector mount

02:25:30.080 --> 02:25:33.280
is that hard. The shadow problems, I did work on the mount side of ours.

02:25:33.280 --> 02:25:36.560
I also spent an egregious amount of time working on them inside of ours.

02:25:36.560 --> 02:25:39.920
Like between the mount and shadow,

02:25:39.920 --> 02:25:44.620
we basically had like, Sammy who couldn't drive around by herself.

02:25:44.620 --> 02:25:49.740
I was about to say, Sammy was your team's like standout rock star.

02:25:49.740 --> 02:25:53.380
Oh, she's the only reason we got like any points at all. Yeah.

02:25:53.380 --> 02:25:56.740
She didn't hit her head. The fact that- And was given nothing.

02:25:56.740 --> 02:26:01.660
I don't know how well communicated it was in the video. She had, was it like 14 minutes

02:26:01.660 --> 02:26:06.740
to make the room cool or something? Dude, your room went from casting couch

02:26:06.740 --> 02:26:10.140
to inviting lobby in like,

02:26:11.100 --> 02:26:14.700
a shockingly small amount of time and with very little budget.

02:26:14.700 --> 02:26:17.900
I remember her being like, I was very impressed. I need at least 30 minutes.

02:26:17.900 --> 02:26:22.460
To be clear, I wasn't surprised because I saw what Sammy did with the budget

02:26:22.460 --> 02:26:25.460
that I gave her on the previous season, which was even less.

02:26:25.460 --> 02:26:28.740
Yeah. But I was very impressed. Yeah.

02:26:31.140 --> 02:26:34.540
Oh, Lordy. Yeah, she did great.

02:26:37.180 --> 02:26:38.940
We gave her nothing.

02:26:40.740 --> 02:26:43.900
And she did good with it. Okay.

02:26:43.900 --> 02:26:48.980
Dunphy says 58 seconds in episode one, can only use items purchased using the budget.

02:26:48.980 --> 02:26:52.340
Linus sold a sound bar. Yes.

02:26:52.340 --> 02:26:55.660
But I sold a sound bar that I only have

02:26:55.660 --> 02:26:58.820
because I bought it. I'm completely fine with that. I think that's pretty standard.

02:26:58.820 --> 02:27:02.220
That's canon at this point. That if you can wheel and deal.

02:27:02.220 --> 02:27:05.620
Yeah. I don't know if that's in the rules or not, but like that is completely fine.

02:27:05.620 --> 02:27:09.140
I think it's allowed by legal precedent.

02:27:09.140 --> 02:27:13.900
Sure. I think that is objectively good for the game.

02:27:13.900 --> 02:27:18.540
Oh, yeah. If you can flip, like, yeah, totally cool.

02:27:18.540 --> 02:27:23.300
Dude, that TV deal saved me. That TV deal was incredible.

02:27:23.300 --> 02:27:26.740
I got a 75. Man, watching you wheel for that was so dope.

02:27:27.940 --> 02:27:32.620
That was actually awesome. Dude, I was...

02:27:32.620 --> 02:27:36.620
Watching it was painful for myself because I was just staring at myself doing dumb things

02:27:36.620 --> 02:27:40.580
so I'm way too freaking tired. And then I could see myself

02:27:40.580 --> 02:27:45.220
in a conversation with someone knowing that behind the back of my laptop

02:27:45.220 --> 02:27:48.900
is actually Sauce Plus instead of Scrapperware's Listing.

02:27:48.900 --> 02:27:52.700
So I'm like, man, sorry, entire team. I kind of screwed everyone over this season,

02:27:52.700 --> 02:27:56.620
but watching some of your team stuff was cool.

02:27:56.620 --> 02:28:01.380
And that wheel and dealing for the TV was awesome. McBain, run the numbers.

02:28:01.380 --> 02:28:05.620
I never went negative money last season. That didn't happen.

02:28:05.620 --> 02:28:09.540
I thought you went credit card. No. No, I didn't go over budget.

02:28:09.540 --> 02:28:13.540
I had to use money off my credit card because I left the cash somewhere.

02:28:13.540 --> 02:28:17.300
I wasn't negative budget. I was never out of money.

02:28:17.300 --> 02:28:23.780
I thought you did. I just had to move it around creatively because it wasn't in the same physical place that I was.

02:28:23.780 --> 02:28:30.180
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I, if anything, I have been on my best behavior

02:28:30.180 --> 02:28:34.820
the last couple of seasons. I will say much, much better than in the past.

02:28:34.820 --> 02:28:37.820
Now it's our turn. Hey, look, look, look, look, look.

02:28:39.940 --> 02:28:43.820
I have always. Look at us, we are the cheaters now.

02:28:43.820 --> 02:28:47.300
I have always. Where did we learn it, mom? I've always followed rules.

02:28:47.300 --> 02:28:51.540
It's just that we used to have much more ill-defined rules

02:28:51.540 --> 02:28:55.380
so they were easier to more egregiously skirt.

02:28:55.380 --> 02:29:00.220
Whereas now we actually, for better or for worse, we have pretty well-defined rule sets.

02:29:00.220 --> 02:29:05.220
So I have to be more creative in my interpretation.

02:29:06.180 --> 02:29:10.500
Is the rules around the PC being required should probably be more explicit.

02:29:10.500 --> 02:29:14.060
And those were intentionally vague. And Linus, for one season, I think that's not fine.

02:29:14.060 --> 02:29:21.340
We were talking about racing stuff on the live stream. Like F1 is basically, that rule book's like 3,000 pages long.

02:29:21.340 --> 02:29:25.500
And people still are trying to find ways to do what Linus did with the computer,

02:29:25.500 --> 02:29:28.660
which is like part of sport. That's part of sport.

02:29:28.660 --> 02:29:33.460
Exactly. Exactly. And it was left vague for Linus to do that.

02:29:33.460 --> 02:29:37.860
And you can do that one time and that's good. I don't want to be encouraged

02:29:37.860 --> 02:29:42.780
to try a shadow solution again. But it was neat to try one time.

02:29:42.780 --> 02:29:45.220
I'm just sad that I really,

02:29:47.140 --> 02:29:51.340
we weren't gonna win. You guys won.

02:29:51.340 --> 02:29:54.380
I'm not trying to argue that. But if shadow worked-

02:29:54.380 --> 02:29:59.340
And my trophy's super cool this year. If shadow worked, I think it would have been a lot cooler.

02:29:59.340 --> 02:30:03.380
I didn't know it could have been closer. Didn't even know we were gonna get trophies.

02:30:03.380 --> 02:30:08.340
Oh, I didn't know we were gonna get trophies. They were a surprise to me too. Because like the projector was not configured

02:30:08.340 --> 02:30:12.500
and the speakers lost their configuration. Someone, this is not why we lost.

02:30:12.500 --> 02:30:16.900
You messed us up too. So when I was testing on my laptop,

02:30:16.900 --> 02:30:19.700
I was getting 5.1, 6.1.

02:30:20.420 --> 02:30:24.140
The little PC didn't, wasn't able to output-

02:30:24.140 --> 02:30:27.540
I had to spare a little PC. Maybe you should have tried with that.

02:30:27.540 --> 02:30:31.580
Yeah, in the 10 minutes that I had to test everything. I hated one mom and dad fight.

02:30:31.940 --> 02:30:35.860
Shut up. He tried to mount the projector all the time. Yeah, this isn't your conversation.

02:30:35.860 --> 02:30:41.380
Yeah, get out of here Linus. Everybody, we never fought before you were born.

02:30:41.380 --> 02:30:44.540
It's your fault. Ultimately, I was captain of the ship.

02:30:44.540 --> 02:30:49.500
I should have done a better job. It lands on me, but- Oh, you don't have to fall on that sword.

02:30:49.500 --> 02:30:53.500
No, I think I do. I mean, I'm the one that did not execute on literally anything.

02:30:53.500 --> 02:30:57.020
I'm just gonna say my team's teamwork was immaculate.

02:30:57.020 --> 02:31:01.060
You guys killed it. We were like, dialed. No confidence. We were dialed.

02:31:01.060 --> 02:31:05.860
I had definitely my roughest season and you guys just killed it the whole time.

02:31:05.860 --> 02:31:09.580
My entire team, MVP.

02:31:09.580 --> 02:31:13.540
Like, Pancras was awesome. Sebastian was awesome.

02:31:13.540 --> 02:31:16.660
Natalie was awesome. Dude, we had some really fantastic team moments too.

02:31:16.660 --> 02:31:19.980
The fact that we got a room- Oh dude. Is crazy.

02:31:19.980 --> 02:31:25.220
Yes. Like the push through at the end was wild.

02:31:25.220 --> 02:31:30.220
Dan just like melting plastic knives into the roof.

02:31:31.180 --> 02:31:35.060
Crazy. I was not particularly happy that I had to do that

02:31:35.060 --> 02:31:38.060
for the record. But it worked.

02:31:38.060 --> 02:31:40.060
I mean, country girls make do, right?

02:31:42.620 --> 02:31:45.260
My God. I don't know if everyone's gonna get that reference.

02:31:46.940 --> 02:31:51.020
You gotta get there. You gotta get there somewhere. Like we're not going to lose.

02:31:51.020 --> 02:31:55.300
Or we're not going to- We're not gonna not show. We're not going to...

02:31:55.300 --> 02:32:02.420
We're gonna show up for the game, right? Because after like, yeah, there was a moment

02:32:02.780 --> 02:32:08.140
where I was thrown a crazy curve ball where I was informed that my little mini PC idea

02:32:08.140 --> 02:32:13.700
would not work. And then I lost hours to re-realizing,

02:32:13.700 --> 02:32:16.860
oh no, my idea was actually fine. The mini PC would work.

02:32:16.860 --> 02:32:21.380
So I lost a lot of time with that. And then I lost at least half a day to that,

02:32:21.380 --> 02:32:25.020
which probably wouldn't have lost that much if I was awake.

02:32:25.020 --> 02:32:28.140
And then I lost an enormous amount of time,

02:32:28.140 --> 02:32:31.660
like almost all the rest of my time, trying to figure out shadow or driving.

02:32:31.660 --> 02:32:36.620
That was like all the rest of it. So I was not very useful to the team.

02:32:36.620 --> 02:32:41.860
Angry Panda PC in Floatplane chat says, hey Luke, at least you had a very entertaining team.

02:32:41.860 --> 02:32:45.620
I think so. You did have that. You guys were very entertaining to watch.

02:32:45.620 --> 02:32:48.420
If I tried to detach myself and watch

02:32:49.340 --> 02:32:54.420
as if I wasn't in the show, I thought our team was Dan specifically,

02:32:54.460 --> 02:32:58.820
it was very entertaining. Roman asks, who threw harder?

02:32:58.820 --> 02:33:01.660
Luke throwing the game or Dan throwing the projector?

02:33:03.220 --> 02:33:07.380
Oh, but he caught it. Dan, dropping that projector. That was crazy.

02:33:07.380 --> 02:33:12.140
That was like one of the craziest Scrapyard Wars moments ever.

02:33:12.140 --> 02:33:16.020
If I remember correctly. He was holding half of your team's entire budget.

02:33:16.020 --> 02:33:19.580
And not only was I holding half of the budget,

02:33:19.580 --> 02:33:22.700
I also fell over the rest of the audio system,

02:33:22.740 --> 02:33:25.940
including the AV receiver and literally everything else.

02:33:25.940 --> 02:33:29.820
So in one tiny little move, I could have destroyed all of our equipment.

02:33:31.180 --> 02:33:35.180
I thought it was gonna fall through the wall because it's like paper thin,

02:33:35.180 --> 02:33:39.180
but no, it seemed okay. I crushed it against the wall with my hand

02:33:39.180 --> 02:33:42.940
and that broke its fall. So good. I heard you told me a little bit about it,

02:33:42.940 --> 02:33:47.700
and then- I was not gonna tell you anything about it. Yeah, I think you told me that you bled,

02:33:47.700 --> 02:33:50.980
but that I'd have to watch it in the edit. And then watching the edit the whole time,

02:33:50.980 --> 02:33:53.220
which was like, oh my God.

02:33:55.060 --> 02:33:59.980
That was amazing. I think people didn't, because we were talking in Canadian dollars,

02:33:59.980 --> 02:34:04.180
I think people didn't fully understand how good my TV deal was, by the way.

02:34:04.180 --> 02:34:08.020
This is what I paid for a 70- Dude, your PlayStation deal was insane.

02:34:08.020 --> 02:34:11.820
That was a great deal. The PlayStation deal and the TV deal were crazy.

02:34:11.820 --> 02:34:14.980
For, so that was another thing that people didn't fully appreciate

02:34:14.980 --> 02:34:18.260
was my price on the PlayStation. They were like, why is London so excited about this price?

02:34:18.260 --> 02:34:21.860
Because I paid Canadian freaking dollars. 400 bucks in there.

02:34:21.860 --> 02:34:25.780
Because what's communicated to the audience at the beginning of the episode,

02:34:25.780 --> 02:34:29.700
I think, is that we have $1,400 or whatever? Yes. But then the whole time we're actually talking-

02:34:29.700 --> 02:34:33.660
In CAD, $2,000. We're talking about $2,000. So it's a little confusing as a viewer.

02:34:33.660 --> 02:34:36.860
I'm gonna check in for the PlayStation again. Was it 400? You said 400 bucks, yeah.

02:34:36.860 --> 02:34:42.820
CAD, TSD. So I paid 288 US dollars for a PlayStation 5.

02:34:43.380 --> 02:34:47.660
When I saw that in the episode, I was like, that's just- Two dual senses.

02:34:47.660 --> 02:34:50.660
I hear 460. And I got-

02:34:50.660 --> 02:34:54.020
460. 460. Oh, sorry, sorry, sorry. Okay, let's fix it.

02:34:54.020 --> 02:34:57.380
I paid 460. 460 with the three games, though. I'm two controllers.

02:34:57.380 --> 02:35:02.380
I paid $332 for a PS5, two dual senses, and three games.

02:35:03.140 --> 02:35:06.780
One of the games I sold for like 20 bucks, I think, $15 or $20.

02:35:06.780 --> 02:35:10.980
So I actually paid like 320 bucks US

02:35:10.980 --> 02:35:13.260
for a PS5 and two dual senses.

02:35:14.220 --> 02:35:19.220
And then for the TV, I paid $396 US dollars

02:35:19.820 --> 02:35:24.820
for a 75 inch TV with a free, like $200 MSRP,

02:35:25.020 --> 02:35:29.420
so $150 US dollar sound bar that I sold for a hundred Canadian dollars.

02:35:29.420 --> 02:35:34.420
So I paid like $320 for a 75 inch TV.

02:35:35.060 --> 02:35:39.900
First of all, Pankrat's watching right now. I had no idea you were the guy at the shipping can from that.

02:35:39.900 --> 02:35:43.140
I had no idea that was him. That was nuts.

02:35:43.140 --> 02:35:49.300
I didn't know that until he told me. No one told me until I was just watching the episode.

02:35:49.300 --> 02:35:52.580
And I was like, wait, what?

02:35:52.580 --> 02:35:58.780
And then obviously it was like obvious when watching the episode again. So David Pankrat's from my team this year

02:35:58.780 --> 02:36:02.140
is the guy who gave Luke his free PC last year.

02:36:02.140 --> 02:36:04.780
I didn't use any of it, but. Well, whatever.

02:36:06.380 --> 02:36:10.740
So that was nuts. And then when he was like selling the sound bar

02:36:10.740 --> 02:36:14.260
and the guy offered a hundred bucks or whatever, and then I think he tried contacting you

02:36:14.260 --> 02:36:17.660
to like see if it was cool or not. I was like, oh my God, just take it.

02:36:17.660 --> 02:36:22.620
I was worried he was gonna not get the deal. We got an offer on it really fast.

02:36:22.620 --> 02:36:27.940
People were like, because it was brand new in box, right? That's always my concern with trying to resell

02:36:27.940 --> 02:36:32.380
is if it doesn't work out, you can be kind of screwed. But that TV was probably worth buying anyways.

02:36:32.380 --> 02:36:36.340
Well, last season we ran into trouble

02:36:36.340 --> 02:36:39.780
where we used far more than what we had budgeted for the PC

02:36:39.780 --> 02:36:42.980
and we had like two full computers worth of stuff.

02:36:42.980 --> 02:36:47.620
And people were like grinding me on the price trying to get me to bundle basically all of it

02:36:47.620 --> 02:36:51.100
for like, well, realistically, it was about what I paid anyway.

02:36:51.100 --> 02:36:55.260
So I wasn't gonna lose money, but I was stressed because I was like,

02:36:55.260 --> 02:36:59.780
I wanted to get rid of it for like a decent price. I wish we'd sold you the CPU last year

02:37:01.180 --> 02:37:04.500
when you guys wanted to buy it and we thought you were just messing with us.

02:37:04.500 --> 02:37:08.740
That would have been so funny. That would have been funny. That would have been a first for Scrapyard Wars

02:37:08.740 --> 02:37:12.180
is one team actually buying an item from the other team.

02:37:12.180 --> 02:37:15.660
I hope it happens someday. I'm not gonna force it. No, no, no.

02:37:15.660 --> 02:37:18.140
But I hope it happens organically someday. It would be very funny.

02:37:19.700 --> 02:37:22.780
Oh man. Anyway, if you wanna see us talk about this

02:37:22.780 --> 02:37:26.100
for seven hours straight. Oh yeah, right, we should move on. Check out the Floatplane episode.

02:37:26.100 --> 02:37:30.780
Floatplane episode. Oh, also there's another Floatplane exclusive this week,

02:37:30.780 --> 02:37:34.300
Luke and Sammy visit IFA. That is, wow, that is quite the thumbnail.

02:37:34.300 --> 02:37:38.140
We did that on purpose. Okay. Yeah.

02:37:38.140 --> 02:37:41.340
Yeah, well, people like this. I was talking about, heck yeah.

02:37:41.340 --> 02:37:45.300
I was talking about how, with Sammy, I was talking about how thumbnails with mouth open

02:37:45.300 --> 02:37:49.100
get less views. Really? And then he was like, it's Floatplane. Let's just send it.

02:37:49.100 --> 02:37:52.300
I was like, okay, sure. Interesting.

02:37:52.300 --> 02:37:57.820
Is there a correct amount of mouth open? This is apparently a Mr. Beast thing.

02:37:57.820 --> 02:38:01.420
So if you look at like, let's see here.

02:38:01.420 --> 02:38:03.620
If you look at his stuff lately.

02:38:09.100 --> 02:38:12.820
Yeah. So like if his mouth is open, his teeth are clenched.

02:38:13.700 --> 02:38:16.700
Like he doesn't have mouth gimp. Oh yeah. Interesting.

02:38:16.700 --> 02:38:19.620
No mouth gimp. None.

02:38:21.620 --> 02:38:24.820
Oh yeah. There's a little bit right there. Little one, little one, tiny, tiny, tiny.

02:38:24.820 --> 02:38:28.060
And there's technically a little one right here. Yeah, okay.

02:38:28.060 --> 02:38:33.100
But only like very, very minor. None of the like, that we're used to from back in the day.

02:38:33.100 --> 02:38:37.740
Right, yeah, yeah, yeah. And that's been going on for quite a while now.

02:38:37.740 --> 02:38:41.540
Yeah, and yeah, they released a thing a while ago saying they did, they did a bunch of A-B testing

02:38:41.540 --> 02:38:45.740
of like the exact same thumbnail. But just. One of them had some mouth gimp

02:38:45.780 --> 02:38:48.980
and one of them didn't. And the one without mouth gimp always performed a little bit better.

02:38:48.980 --> 02:38:50.780
Interesting. Yeah.

02:38:52.300 --> 02:38:56.780
How do you know there's differences with different audiences and stuff? Like I don't know that that's gonna work

02:38:56.780 --> 02:39:01.780
for whatever different YouTube channel, but yeah.

02:39:02.820 --> 02:39:08.140
All right. Why don't we jump into whatever we're supposed to do? So I said Jimmy showing off those new veneers.

02:39:08.140 --> 02:39:10.180
As far as my understanding goes, those are Photoshopped.

02:39:11.700 --> 02:39:16.180
There's some weird, I watched a thing on it. There's a weird, they do it NVIDIA sometimes too.

02:39:16.180 --> 02:39:19.380
And he'll like turn it away and it'll like turn off and you can see his normal teeth

02:39:19.380 --> 02:39:22.940
and then he'll turn back and they like clip back in. Odd.

02:39:22.940 --> 02:39:26.460
Really? Odd choice, yeah. Oh.

02:39:28.420 --> 02:39:32.060
Really? Apparently he has, it wasn't Photoshop, he has new fake teeth.

02:39:32.060 --> 02:39:35.740
Oh. Crazy.

02:39:35.740 --> 02:39:39.620
Don't veneers like ruin your natural teeth though? I have no idea, dude.

02:39:39.620 --> 02:39:42.940
I thought they did. I thought they have to like shave down

02:39:42.940 --> 02:39:45.700
part of your teeth in order to apply them or something.

02:39:46.780 --> 02:39:51.780
That always seemed like an odd choice to me.

02:39:51.780 --> 02:39:55.020
And this is even coming from someone

02:39:55.020 --> 02:39:58.300
who has like done face treatments and you know, whatever, right?

02:39:58.300 --> 02:40:03.300
Like I've done Morpheus 8, I've done Micro Needling.

02:40:06.820 --> 02:40:10.020
Yes, your actual teeth are just little spikes

02:40:10.020 --> 02:40:12.020
you've gotta be kidding me. Crazy.

02:40:13.500 --> 02:40:17.220
They're covers more than like gluing plastic to the front of them.

02:40:17.220 --> 02:40:19.340
You have to permanently have them?

02:40:20.460 --> 02:40:23.940
Shut up. I have heard about regrowing teeth though.

02:40:23.940 --> 02:40:29.300
They're working on, I think it's a drug treatment, right? Where they can like stimulate teeth regrowth or something?

02:40:30.620 --> 02:40:31.460
Huh.

02:40:33.980 --> 02:40:37.660
It's just better protecting the net. Crowns do the same thing,

02:40:37.660 --> 02:40:42.060
but basically just artificial protecting the natural part.

02:40:42.100 --> 02:40:45.980
But can you have issues where like the real teeth under it

02:40:45.980 --> 02:40:49.860
are like impossible to clean and therefore they can like decay or something?

02:40:49.860 --> 02:40:54.460
I don't know. I haven't looked into, I haven't looked into veneers a ton.

02:40:56.580 --> 02:40:59.660
Yeah, so they did use AI to edit his teeth for a while.

02:41:01.940 --> 02:41:06.740
But apparently- Hold on, hold on. Okay, where? Cause I had seen stuff like this before.

02:41:07.620 --> 02:41:10.140
So you see like here, it's just a flat line

02:41:11.100 --> 02:41:14.620
and then he actually has like shape to his teeth. Right, right, right, right.

02:41:14.620 --> 02:41:17.980
As people do. I'd seen someone make like a,

02:41:17.980 --> 02:41:21.900
there's a whole video with like a lot more detail on it.

02:41:21.900 --> 02:41:25.180
Yeah, I just, I can't imagine carrying that much about Jimmy's teeth, but sure.

02:41:25.180 --> 02:41:30.180
Oh no, I thought it was interesting like the lengths they would go to and the fact that they went to those lengths

02:41:30.180 --> 02:41:34.580
but then also left examples of it like clipping back

02:41:34.580 --> 02:41:38.140
to real blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But yeah, I guess he has veneers now.

02:41:38.140 --> 02:41:42.780
I don't know. Dude, if I had major dental issues, I think I would just go straight

02:41:42.780 --> 02:41:45.100
to like solid white gold teeth.

02:41:47.620 --> 02:41:50.700
Yeah, why do they have to be separate? Can't they just be like one?

02:41:50.700 --> 02:41:54.980
Well, no, no, no, no. Individual solid one teeth. One tooth.

02:41:54.980 --> 02:41:59.780
I think I would go, I think I'd go straight for just the implants. Dan just wants like a-

02:41:59.780 --> 02:42:03.060
Like a, like you ever, you get the mouth guard. It's a blade.

02:42:03.060 --> 02:42:06.380
Just give me a giant gold blade.

02:42:06.540 --> 02:42:11.100
Are you carrying the mask look?

02:42:11.100 --> 02:42:13.460
Yeah, there you go. So muckin'.

02:42:15.460 --> 02:42:17.300
That's an old reference. Horrifying.

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The show is also brought to you by Delta Hub. It says, Luke, tell the story about the magnificent pizza

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you and Sammy had in Berlin. I have no context for this.

02:43:24.020 --> 02:43:28.420
So the only, don't go away, stop it. I'm trying to put it on Luke Cam.

02:43:28.420 --> 02:43:31.860
Okay, there we go. What are your notes for this?

02:43:31.860 --> 02:43:35.220
Oh. Wait, what? What are your notes for this? Okay.

02:43:35.220 --> 02:43:38.980
Well, Luke, tell the story of the magnificent pizza you had in Berlin.

02:43:38.980 --> 02:43:42.460
I will not touch the thing. What are dance notes? I don't know. I don't know.

02:43:42.460 --> 02:43:46.500
There's anything prepped. They never tell me anything. Okay, well, a long time ago,

02:43:47.940 --> 02:43:52.540
I've been to Germany either two or three times.

02:43:52.540 --> 02:43:56.180
Was it two separate trips for Sennheiser and Cherry?

02:43:56.180 --> 02:43:59.220
It was one trip. So I've been to Germany twice then.

02:43:59.580 --> 02:44:04.020
And one time I did some adventuring with Brandon afterwards, the last time I was there.

02:44:04.020 --> 02:44:07.540
And we went to specifically one place that had pizza,

02:44:07.540 --> 02:44:11.700
and only one place that had pizza, and we ordered a margarita pizza,

02:44:11.700 --> 02:44:16.500
and it was the best pizza I've ever had. Nice. So when I was going around doing random stuff

02:44:16.500 --> 02:44:20.780
with Sammy this time, I was telling him all about the pizza and how good it was, and I was saying he should get one.

02:44:20.780 --> 02:44:24.140
We ordered a margarita pizza, and do you have a photo of it?

02:44:24.140 --> 02:44:28.020
Is that what you have? No. Then what's prepped?

02:44:28.140 --> 02:44:31.740
The shot calls, like regular cam.

02:44:31.740 --> 02:44:35.180
There's no luke cam call in this. Okay, sure. And now there's no music.

02:44:35.180 --> 02:44:38.660
Anyways, when I think of margarita pizza,

02:44:38.660 --> 02:44:41.740
this is what I think of, which is what comes up

02:44:41.740 --> 02:44:45.420
when you search margarita pizza and Google images. That's a lot.

02:44:45.420 --> 02:44:50.220
Margarita pizza, and you get a pizza. Disappointingly, there is no alcoholic slushy beverage.

02:44:51.300 --> 02:44:54.820
I mean, sure, it says pizza. I mean, yeah, sure. Margarita pizza.

02:44:54.820 --> 02:45:00.180
I'm sure I could make an AI image of that. Vlime and tequila. But you see, like this is kind of the quintessential one

02:45:00.180 --> 02:45:04.300
that I think of. Sure, yep. You have, you can usually see the sauce

02:45:04.300 --> 02:45:09.900
between the mozzarella slices. You've got basil, like a pretty substantial amount

02:45:09.900 --> 02:45:14.920
of basil. Cool. We got a pizza that looked a lot more like this,

02:45:14.920 --> 02:45:20.820
except just no green at all. Disappoint. It was just what I would call, as a North American,

02:45:20.820 --> 02:45:24.340
a cheese pizza. Yes. That's it.

02:45:24.340 --> 02:45:29.940
I thought we got pizza scammed because they had a photo that looked almost exactly like this

02:45:29.940 --> 02:45:34.100
on, I think it's an AI photo, but they had a photo that looked almost exactly like that

02:45:34.100 --> 02:45:38.260
on their menu. We ordered a Margarita pizza. Are you going somewhere with this?

02:45:38.260 --> 02:45:41.180
No, I don't know why this is part of the announcement. So you had bad food.

02:45:42.440 --> 02:45:45.760
Yeah, basically. We then asked Flo Plain, and apparently

02:45:45.760 --> 02:45:49.780
this is a Margarita pizza? Yeah, it is. That sucks.

02:45:49.780 --> 02:45:53.660
I hate that that's true. Yeah, they both, it basically just means cheese pizza, but.

02:45:53.660 --> 02:45:57.900
That's ridiculous. The fancier ones are just like nicer cheese pizza.

02:45:57.900 --> 02:46:02.220
Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah, I've had Margarita pizza that is that, and I don't order Margarita pizza anymore

02:46:02.220 --> 02:46:05.820
because every time I order it, it is deeply disappointing.

02:46:05.820 --> 02:46:09.860
So speaking of that, I guess.

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So we were just supposed to talk until someone said the word disappointing.

02:46:53.460 --> 02:46:58.540
I have no idea. No, you will answer for this. I don't think it was Dan's plan.

02:46:58.540 --> 02:47:01.780
Regular cam. Luke, tell a story about the magnificent pizza

02:47:01.780 --> 02:47:06.140
you and Sammy. Linus cam, you know what's also disappointing wrist pain.

02:47:07.620 --> 02:47:11.700
So I was video insert number 21-3 injury.

02:47:11.700 --> 02:47:15.900
You got it, you nailed it. I mean, I'm not good. I was trying to get us there and then you just.

02:47:15.900 --> 02:47:21.980
This is also the first time I've seen you so the wide cam in a shot call.

02:47:22.020 --> 02:47:25.300
True, cool. Okay. Anyways, it pisses me off

02:47:25.300 --> 02:47:29.340
that those are both Margarita pizzas. I think that is stupid.

02:47:29.340 --> 02:47:32.340
And I think people need to get their act together and figure that out.

02:47:32.340 --> 02:47:36.780
Cause that is absurd. You know what else is stupid? Google's Android shenanigans

02:47:36.780 --> 02:47:40.940
and they've been officially called out by a GraphinOS developer

02:47:40.940 --> 02:47:43.300
on the official GraphinOS Twitter account

02:47:44.180 --> 02:47:48.380
for recent moves that make GraphinOS less secure.

02:47:49.140 --> 02:47:54.140
Ugh. It's a strange time to talk about Android protecting users.

02:47:54.140 --> 02:47:58.740
Android recently changed the security update system in a way which massively downgrades security

02:47:58.740 --> 02:48:01.980
and puts users at risk. Commercial exploit companies and governments

02:48:01.980 --> 02:48:05.220
can easily obtain access to broadly distributed partner previews.

02:48:05.220 --> 02:48:08.900
Adding four month delays for patches is atrocious.

02:48:08.900 --> 02:48:12.140
Also in June, you claimed AOSP wasn't going anywhere.

02:48:12.140 --> 02:48:16.140
You then proceeded to not release the July or August monthly updates to AOSP

02:48:16.140 --> 02:48:20.380
followed by not releasing the September quarterly update. You officially communicated to the media

02:48:20.380 --> 02:48:25.460
and said AOSP releases were continuing followed by three months of not publishing releases to it.

02:48:25.460 --> 02:48:28.260
Why should people believe what you say about side loading?

02:48:32.460 --> 02:48:36.100
Well said. Well said, GraphinOS.

02:48:36.100 --> 02:48:39.580
Thank you very much for that. Google, get it together please.

02:48:39.580 --> 02:48:43.900
Cause I actually do want Apple to have competition. I think it's good for them.

02:48:44.900 --> 02:48:49.380
Intel, speaking of things that happen when you don't have enough competition,

02:48:49.380 --> 02:48:52.460
they just love 14 nanometers so much

02:48:52.460 --> 02:48:57.460
that they launched yet another 14 nanometer chip this week.

02:48:57.740 --> 02:49:04.020
The source here is Tom's hardware who is reporting on Intel's new 14 nanometer

02:49:04.020 --> 02:49:09.500
and I kid you not, plus plus plus desktop CPU

02:49:09.500 --> 02:49:14.500
that it turns out is just a 10th gen CPU from,

02:49:15.660 --> 02:49:23.500
is it four years ago? The Core i5-110 appears as far as anybody can tell

02:49:23.740 --> 02:49:28.740
to be literally a Core i5-10400 from 2020.

02:49:30.300 --> 02:49:33.900
So sorry, excuse me, five years ago.

02:49:33.900 --> 02:49:37.100
Here's a comparison page of the two CPUs

02:49:37.140 --> 02:49:41.940
from Intel directly. So we're gonna start at the bottom, okay?

02:49:41.940 --> 02:49:47.620
Just for funsies. VTX with extended page tables, yes, yes.

02:49:47.620 --> 02:49:51.180
Virtualization technology for directed IO, yes, yes.

02:49:51.180 --> 02:49:54.980
Virtualization technology, yes, yes.

02:49:54.980 --> 02:49:58.140
Intel stable IT platform program, no.

02:49:58.140 --> 02:50:01.500
Oh, also no. I'm not gonna read all of these.

02:50:01.500 --> 02:50:07.060
So we're just gonna go through and see if there's any differences

02:50:07.060 --> 02:50:10.740
that Intel can identify between these two chips.

02:50:10.740 --> 02:50:14.540
Any at all Intel waiting for it.

02:50:14.540 --> 02:50:21.180
No, no, yes, yes. Package size, identical, T-junction identical.

02:50:21.180 --> 02:50:26.060
LGA 1200, brother. You are launching a CPU

02:50:27.120 --> 02:50:31.140
on a two platforms ago socket.

02:50:31.180 --> 02:50:34.860
Are you kidding me right now?

02:50:34.860 --> 02:50:38.780
And it's not like when AMD launches a new AM4 chip

02:50:38.780 --> 02:50:41.940
and we're like, hey, bro move.

02:50:41.940 --> 02:50:47.820
Cause there's a lot of AM4 users out there who are running legitimately like much older chips

02:50:47.820 --> 02:50:51.780
that might need an upgrade now. This is like, you only supported this

02:50:51.780 --> 02:50:56.940
for a couple real generations and then some like weird refreshes.

02:50:56.940 --> 02:51:01.940
Some Faco ones. So people who have this like already have a 10th gen CPU.

02:51:01.940 --> 02:51:09.020
This isn't an upgrade to any of that. Okay, scalability, one S only, one S.

02:51:09.020 --> 02:51:12.460
That means the same thing. Yeah, so far as far as I can tell

02:51:12.460 --> 02:51:18.820
the differences are actually just the same. They're just written different. The device ID is the same.

02:51:18.820 --> 02:51:21.860
Do we need to keep going? Let's keep going.

02:51:21.860 --> 02:51:25.340
Quick sync, open GL support. Oh, Lordy.

02:51:26.260 --> 02:51:29.780
Yeah, that's all the same. That's all the same.

02:51:29.780 --> 02:51:34.780
Oh, 1.10 versus 1.1 gigahertz.

02:51:39.300 --> 02:51:44.060
Data entry is really fun. It's DDR4.

02:51:44.060 --> 02:51:47.460
They're launching a DDR4 CPU today.

02:51:48.900 --> 02:51:53.620
What, why, why call it a new CPU?

02:51:53.620 --> 02:51:58.180
Literally, the only difference is the launch date.

02:52:01.860 --> 02:52:03.140
These are all just zeros.

02:52:05.940 --> 02:52:07.100
And the name.

02:52:08.980 --> 02:52:12.700
You didn't even f**king discount it.

02:52:14.140 --> 02:52:17.420
Now, to be clear, the fact that they are the same price

02:52:17.420 --> 02:52:21.540
on Arc, or sorry, Intel.com slash content,

02:52:21.580 --> 02:52:24.980
which used to be called Arc, and used to have a cool brand, and was way cooler.

02:52:24.980 --> 02:52:28.740
Way cooler. Just because it says $200 on Arc

02:52:28.740 --> 02:52:32.620
does not mean that Intel expects anybody to pay $200 for these.

02:52:32.620 --> 02:52:37.580
What is realistically probably happening is these are for developing markets

02:52:37.580 --> 02:52:41.300
where there's still a good volume of like old socket,

02:52:41.300 --> 02:52:46.020
old chipset motherboards, and they can kind of dump them into markets

02:52:46.020 --> 02:52:50.500
that are, for example, that have extremely high taxes

02:52:50.500 --> 02:52:52.980
on the form of tariffs on imports, for instance.

02:52:55.060 --> 02:52:59.420
And so it's just at a high price to make sure that nobody outside of those markets

02:52:59.420 --> 02:53:02.780
is gonna be caring about this and clamoring for them.

02:53:02.780 --> 02:53:07.780
But like, can we just stop with the deceptive branding?

02:53:09.460 --> 02:53:12.620
This is not a new product. It doesn't need a new name.

02:53:12.620 --> 02:53:17.220
Just sell cheap 10, 400s.

02:53:17.220 --> 02:53:21.060
I don't get it.

02:53:22.020 --> 02:53:25.060
Yeah, I don't understand what the- Oh, I do get it. I just hate it.

02:53:25.060 --> 02:53:30.300
What is it then? What does the product launch help with? The product launch helps make it look new

02:53:30.300 --> 02:53:34.700
to people who don't know, and to people who won't do this comparison.

02:53:34.700 --> 02:53:38.380
So someone who, like, think about the way that, okay, I'm gonna have to come up with an example.

02:53:38.380 --> 02:53:44.220
I was gonna say blender, but you would research the crap out of a blender. So think about the way that you would buy-

02:53:44.220 --> 02:53:47.260
Good luck finding an example. You don't buy anything.

02:53:47.260 --> 02:53:53.380
And if I do, I research the crap out of it. Think about the way that Emma would buy a knife.

02:53:53.380 --> 02:53:57.300
Okay. She would go to a store,

02:53:57.300 --> 02:54:00.940
and there would be some knives.

02:54:00.940 --> 02:54:04.220
And if one of them was the same knife from five years ago,

02:54:04.220 --> 02:54:08.260
but with like, but it was, you know, we had a new handle on it

02:54:08.260 --> 02:54:11.500
that made it look like the knife from this year, which realistically, if it's a knife-

02:54:11.500 --> 02:54:14.980
And it was called the 2025 edition or whatever. That might actually be the only change.

02:54:15.180 --> 02:54:18.820
She'd be like, that's the new one. And so to the person who's going in

02:54:18.820 --> 02:54:23.820
and not like an enthusiast for knives or, you know, whatever,

02:54:24.020 --> 02:54:27.380
they just go into a store and this is a, this is Core Ultra.

02:54:27.380 --> 02:54:32.980
I love how you, you picked a category that we have like, solid ones in because I looked it up.

02:54:36.020 --> 02:54:41.780
Yeah. Well, like, look, the point is that most people don't care about the things

02:54:41.780 --> 02:54:47.300
that don't really impact them that much. I suspect you wouldn't research a water bottle very much.

02:54:47.300 --> 02:54:50.780
No. I think that you would just buy a water bottle and you'd be like-

02:54:50.780 --> 02:54:54.740
Before LTT ones, I just had an Lgine ones. Yeah. It would just be kind of whatever.

02:54:54.740 --> 02:54:59.780
That is fair. And so there are, there are absolutely categories

02:54:59.780 --> 02:55:05.020
that we're not enthusiasts for. And that's who they're targeting with this. I mean, it's not like a, it's not like a cutting edge,

02:55:05.020 --> 02:55:08.740
top of the line gaming processor. It's like a, it's a six core 10th gen, right?

02:55:08.740 --> 02:55:11.780
So, which to be clear is actually still gonna provide

02:55:11.780 --> 02:55:15.300
pretty decently good gaming experience

02:55:15.300 --> 02:55:19.740
if it's paired with a, with a, like an appropriate GPU. It's a, it's a, it's a good chip.

02:55:19.740 --> 02:55:23.100
And so my problem is not that they're selling it. My problem is just like,

02:55:23.100 --> 02:55:26.540
why do we have to have this deceptive branding? I hate it.

02:55:26.540 --> 02:55:28.260
Just tell me what it is.

02:55:30.780 --> 02:55:34.660
That is my end of my TED talk.

02:55:34.660 --> 02:55:39.660
eBay restricts items over $500 from shipping to the US

02:55:40.340 --> 02:55:43.740
On August 27th, eBay started enforcing an update

02:55:43.740 --> 02:55:47.300
to its seller listing policy for sales to the United States

02:55:47.300 --> 02:55:50.500
to limit the sale of items from certain countries

02:55:50.500 --> 02:55:54.660
to $500 including shipping. According to the policy page on eBay,

02:55:54.660 --> 02:56:00.940
there had previously been restrictions in place, but for items up to $2,500 in value.

02:56:00.940 --> 02:56:04.860
The list of restricted countries is available on the eBay source link here.

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And eBay states that the policy is to ensure

02:56:07.980 --> 02:56:11.020
a good shopping experience for US buyers

02:56:11.020 --> 02:56:18.580
and maintain high quality shipping performance. I've actually seen quite a few Americans upset

02:56:18.580 --> 02:56:21.620
about shipping times for, I saw,

02:56:21.620 --> 02:56:26.140
I saw one that was about dbrand, which we are our sponsor team is looking into.

02:56:26.140 --> 02:56:30.140
But what I will say is probably it is,

02:56:30.140 --> 02:56:36.020
it has been very challenging to get shipping, to get shipments into the US in a timely

02:56:36.020 --> 02:56:39.060
and cost effective manner with all of the tariff.

02:56:39.060 --> 02:56:44.660
Will they won't, they will, they won't, they yes, they will, but not like this sea sawing

02:56:44.660 --> 02:56:49.260
that has been going on. So this is, this is a practical impact.

02:56:49.260 --> 02:56:54.780
This is interesting because I looked up the list that they linked and like Canada's not on here.

02:56:54.780 --> 02:56:57.940
Why Portugal, but not Spain. Germany's not on here.

02:56:57.940 --> 02:56:59.540
Switzerland's not on here.

02:57:03.640 --> 02:57:09.900
No France. But French Polynesia is, and French Guinea.

02:57:09.900 --> 02:57:14.080
Guyana, I don't know. Singapore is, that's kind of surprising to me.

02:57:14.920 --> 02:57:17.220
I don't know, man. Is Taiwan on here?

02:57:19.420 --> 02:57:22.640
Nope. Are you saying Taiwan is a country? Yeah.

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Based. Hell yeah.

02:57:26.960 --> 02:57:30.920
Based as fuck. Hell yeah. I just, is China on here?

02:57:32.840 --> 02:57:35.520
Oh, I don't know. No.

02:57:37.520 --> 02:57:41.960
What's the decision making here? I don't know.

02:57:41.960 --> 02:57:46.440
I just am saying, yeah, this is what, this is what happens when things are confusing.

02:57:46.440 --> 02:57:52.560
Things get confusing. Hey though, Nintendo got another video game patent.

02:57:52.560 --> 02:57:55.600
Yay, I know you were excited to talk about this.

02:57:55.600 --> 02:57:59.000
It's interesting. I don't obviously like it,

02:57:59.000 --> 02:58:03.720
but I think it's something to be aware of and it's interesting. Nintendo has been granted a patent

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that covers the ability to summon another character and make them battle on your behalf,

02:58:09.400 --> 02:58:14.240
which by itself is like, oh God.

02:58:14.240 --> 02:58:19.520
It then goes on to describe things in more detail. A console or other system is being used

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to run a video game from storage. That was kind of weird.

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Just off the hop. I thought that was weird because why wouldn't a game cart count?

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Maybe that counts as a form of storage. I don't know.

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The player controls, right? Yeah, anything is storage. Yeah, exactly.

02:58:35.160 --> 02:58:39.040
So it's playing a game. A CD is storage. A floppy disk is storage.

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RAM is a form of storage. I mean, I wouldn't call it storage.

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It technically is though.

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If I had in my house a cremation, you know, oven, right?

02:58:56.080 --> 02:58:59.440
Would you call it storage? I mean, in that case.

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If every time the power goes out, it stores, the fire goes on.

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Dust. Like, I don't think your fireplace is storage.

02:59:07.960 --> 02:59:11.880
Sorry, I'm sorry. I disagree with you. So if you loaded a game into RAM,

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you could avoid their patent? Sure.

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That's my interpretation, not a lawyer. Go ahead. I don't think it is.

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I think it is storage. But anyways, a console or other system is being used to run a game from storage.

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The player controls a character in a virtual space.

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The player can perform an input command to make a sub character appear,

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i.e., summon another character. If there's an enemy where the sub character appears,

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the player can control a battle between the sub character and the enemy.

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And if there's no enemy where the sub character appears, the sub character will automatically move around.

02:59:47.640 --> 02:59:53.920
Okay, isn't this just a familiar? Is Nintendo, do they, they got this patent?

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The player, yeah. The player can move the sub character to a different location on the field.

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And if an enemy is there, they can control the battle between the sub character and the enemy.

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I think one of the minor differences is that

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the battle wouldn't be between like you and your thing.

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It's just a battle between the thing

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that you're controlling and one enemy in this case.

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You're not involved other than commands.

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Because I thought like basically any video game warlock,

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like think Diablo, not warlock, I guess, Diablo necromancer, you're summoning a thing.

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It can go out and fight things, but it doesn't perfectly follow this

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because it's not like one summon

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because in Diablo usually it's multiple and they just kind of hover around you.

03:00:45.960 --> 03:00:50.160
You don't like send them out and it doesn't create like one-on-one battles.

03:00:50.160 --> 03:00:53.960
They just all fight, right? So it's like it doesn't perfect,

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the like Necro example doesn't perfectly fit this thing.

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I don't think.

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The reason this could be scarier than a traditional trademark is in the case of IP law,

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Nintendo is required to fight and protect itself with a trademark or else they could lose it.

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Patents are not like that, meaning Nintendo technically has to pick

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and choose privileges on which infringement they want to pursue, which gives them even more power.

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They can let people that they like get away with things and they can go after others

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and that won't make them lose this patent.

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Discussion question, is there a universe out there where a patent on a video game mechanic like this

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could be good for the consumer and I can't imagine one?

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Although it is getting really weird with basically every popular game

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getting immediately ripped off by Roblox.

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Hmm, so I'm not sure how that works.

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Someone in Floatplane chat said apparently a part of the patent is that the thing

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has to be stored in a sphere. So basically they're trying to patent Pokemon battles,

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essentially.

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Man, could Nintendo just, like Nintendo has no problem

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being the beneficiary of innovative gameplay mechanics.

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I don't believe that Mario Kart was the first racing game, for instance.

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I mean, they're like sports titles, we're definitely not the first sports titles.

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But when they're on the other side of the equation, they behave like petulant children.

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I don't think there's really any good justification for this.

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Adam added to this. Okay, hear me out.

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Could we create a system where large Corpo plaintiffs are allowed to sue

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but they have to cover the legal costs of the defendant

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until the decision is made?

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That would actually be kind of a cool way

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to disincentivize like bullcrap lawsuits.

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It's very interesting.

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Could be extended to DMCA takedowns. If Universal wants to sue you, they can

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but they have to pay your court fees while you defend yourself.

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That would be kind of wild. I think it's really interesting. I think there's some concerns of like.

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And to be clear, until they win, if they win, then you're responsible

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for whatever the judgment is. I still, I kind of like this. I think it's worth doing.

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I do think there's some concerns. Like I think people might get a false sense of security.

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They're like, I'm obviously gonna win this. And then they have infinite money on their end

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and they just win through money, which is like a thing that you can do. I think you could set it up

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so that you have to provide the same funding to both sides.

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So if you basically, you have to, so you have to in escrow or whatever.

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You have to like, you have to, or not in escrow because then the defendant wouldn't actually have it.

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But whatever you spend pursuing, pursuing it.

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I think it would have to only apply to like individuals. That's also cool and interesting.

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But it comes with its own pitfalls in my mind because again, false sense of security,

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if you think you're gonna win, this could ruin you for your entire life.

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Versus a slap on the wrist for the game company. But you'll have a super cool team of lawyers

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to tell you you're not gonna win.

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And then you'll still do some. And then you'll settle. Not as much I guess, yeah.

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So you'll have to reach some kind of settlement. The point is just that you wouldn't be able to

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intimidate people. I think it's cool in general. You wouldn't be able to just. There's definitely an idea here

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that I think we should do as if we could do anything.

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Yeah, when we're in charge of Canada,

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then we will be sure to implement something like that.

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Running Marathon. Yeah, actually kind of cool.

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Carney ran a marathon. Oh, did he? Got a pretty good time apparently. Oh, okay, man, good for him.

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I didn't actually look into it because I don't care.

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I saw. But I mean, that's neat. I saw that there's talk of as part of the rift

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with our Southern neighbors and attempts to mend fences

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with our far Eastern neighbors, perhaps getting rid of the 100% tariffs on Chinese EVs.

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I've heard very rumor mill things about this.

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It's very interesting. Prime Minister Carney, if you're watching,

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I have a humble request. If you're going to do this,

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I want a commitment from the Chinese EV manufacturers

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that they are gonna replace the manufacturing jobs that we are going to be losing, especially in Ontario

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with their own manufacturing within our borders

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that will at some point probably end up serving other parts of North America as well.

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I think that's one concession. I also think that we should be getting strong investment

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from those companies in renewable energy here to support the EV charging that we're going to need

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to do a lot more of because we're gonna have like $11,000 EVs.

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That is my two cents on the matter. I also think that we need to carefully consider

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our strategic minerals and not give up too much of that

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as part of this whole process. Because I suspect that would be part of,

03:06:16.640 --> 03:06:20.640
well, look, I have no problem with the Chinese mining the minerals

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if they're also manufacturing the batteries and EVs

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within Canada. They can capitalistically benefit from that harvesting

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by selling within our market. They can have access to the market.

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I mean, I don't think I'm gonna get my deal because we also need like canola farmers

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to be able to export to China and stuff. There's a whole thing there. But I want some automotive manufacturing on the continent.

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You can't just like wage. We are the only ones who can manufacture cars

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anymore warfare. I don't think that's cool.

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Yeah, I think that's exactly what they wanna do though. Well, that is exactly what they wanna do.

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Yeah. How would you tackle the jobs thing?

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Because this is a song that has been saying many a time

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where a company is like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we're gonna get a ton of jobs here.

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We're gonna build this like massive factory and then it's 90% automated and there's 10 jobs.

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So do you do like it has to be X amount of jobs

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that are in some certain level of average income

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versus the country's average is whatever, I don't know.

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I mean, it obviously needs some consideration because I don't really care if they're manufacturing jobs.

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They could be service jobs. They could be whatever. Yeah, it doesn't matter. As long as there is a net positive workforce benefit

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to having this work being done here. I think I actually do care.

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You care about specifically manufacturing because remember that automated equipment

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is on our soil now. I care in the sense that it should be defined.

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I don't necessarily care that it needs to be manufacturing

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because the reason why I'm saying I do care is because you just had service jobs.

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If they end up just like opening a bunch of restaurants and then just like-

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No, not service jobs. Okay, sure. I see what you mean. So I meant service like in the like main-

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Just like with Scrapyard Wars, they're gonna try to work around.

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Yeah, if there's anyone who would outstrap Yard Wars us, it would be the CCP.

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FanboyNZ says, hot take Linus, Canada car makers should compete.

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Which ones? Beaumont?

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Our domestic automotive industry was gutted decades ago by the Americans.

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So we're basically just trading one for another

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at this point. Make Bombardier, make cars.

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You mean Bombardier? Bombardier, Bombardier.

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I want a Bombardier car, dude. WTF is a Beaumont.

03:08:53.840 --> 03:08:58.840
Beaumont, Canadian car manufacturer.

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Here you go. Here you go. Beaumont automobile.

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This is a 1968 Beaumont SD 396.

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Dude, they're kind of sick. Not gonna lie, pretty cool.

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Looks a lot like a GTO.

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Midsize automobiles. Oh, it was a make,

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made by General Motors of Canada. So even then it was like,

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it was based on the Chevelle. It was barely even Canadian. Dude, a Bombardier car would go sick.

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Go really hard though. Yeah, over the snow.

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Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They make planes. A lot of companies that made planes went into cars.

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They actually make the sickest plane right now.

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The Global 8000 is like.

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I'm just saying the BMW logo is a propeller.

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There are lots of car companies that made planes. Oh, this thing.

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Proud Canadian here, boys. It is the fastest business jet in the world.

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It has a range of 8000 nautical miles.

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This thing can go almost 15,000 kilometers

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on a single fill up. And it travels at Mach 0.94.

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Wow. I think it's the fastest plane since the Concorde.

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What don't they have that? Well, that carries passengers.

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Okay. Yeah, obviously a fighter jet or whatever. No, no, no, no, no.

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I thought they had like a new, new, new Concorde thing going on.

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I think there's something in development from, what's their nuts, Boeing or something,

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but Lord only knows if that'll ever be finished.

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Seven of lesbians ask, does Bombardier even exist anymore?

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I thought they were gutted by private equity. I don't know. It seemed to be doing okay.

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Shows you what I know. If that's true, but no, that's not my understanding.

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I thought Bombardier is kind of doing stuff at this point. Into the airplane is misinformation.

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Regardless, my point was that a lot of companies that make cars used to make airplanes, and that's true.

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I don't really care too much about the logo.

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Anyway, yeah, global 8000 looks sick.

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Could literally never afford one. Ed Zeem in Floatplane Chat says $78 million price tag.

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Uh, uh, uh, uh.

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Hold on. Do they have any interior shots?

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I mean, the interior is basically gonna, look how big the Windows are. My goodness, dude.

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Like what, are you kidding me?

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The healthiest of cabins. Look at this.

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Oh my. Look at this. God.

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I guess I'll just sleep in my, like, I don't know.

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That's at least a full, right? Is that a full-size bed? Yeah.

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It looks like a full to me. And here's the cuck chair built right in.

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Rough. Sorry, what's rough?

03:12:04.620 --> 03:12:09.140
Being. Not the fabric on the cuck chair.

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I'll say that one. Yeah, no, definitely not.

03:12:12.140 --> 03:12:15.380
Okay. Anywho, what are we supposed to be talking about?

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Ah, yes. Okay.

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Okay. I just liked this because it's what Owen,

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Uncle Owen and Aunt Baru did in Star Wars. Oh yeah.

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This is kinda. It's a moisture evaporator.

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What are they called in Star Wars? Are they called moisture evaporators or?

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I thought they had like a few different contraptions. I don't know, but basically.

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Moisture evaporator? Well, yeah, that doesn't make any sense. What are they called?

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Well, just moisture farmer. No, no, I think the thing's called something.

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He's not talking about the profession. Moisture evaporators. Yeah, moisture evaporator.

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Wait, that doesn't make sense either. Moisture evaporators?

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Yeah, that doesn't make sense because that would turn it to vapor. Seems weird.

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Moisture evaporators is right. It says pancreas. I trust pancreas.

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Moisture evaporators, I mean, it's Star Wars technology.

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It doesn't matter. It is now there's Star Wars technology. And that was all I really had to say about that.

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Yeah. I just saw this thing and I was like, oh my God, it's Star Wars.

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MIT is testing a new technology to pull water from the air.

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The idea is not new, but the hydrogel technology they're using is.

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It's a window-sized panel made of absorbent hydrogel infused with salt folded up and closed in glass.

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The material absorbs water vapor from the air and swells,

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then it shrinks as it evaporates. The water condenses on the glass and flows down a tube.

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Currently it makes about two thirds of a cup of water a day,

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but requires zero power.

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The hope is that these could be scaled up and improved to provide drinking water for a single household.

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Could be great for emergency situations. And the discussion question is,

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how much moisture was Uncle Owen farming?

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I don't know. Presumably quite a bit

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because he had like hectares of these moisture evaporators.

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So Star Wars. I think they kind of brush over it,

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but I don't think...

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Tatooine have lakes? I don't think any at all. So I think all of the water for that entire planet

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was from these moisture farms. So it must have been like an incredible amount.

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Yeah. Why did anybody settle there?

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It's crazy. Mexico is taxing video games.

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I mean, you can say that about places in the world now

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in real life. Well, yeah, but in the world now in real life, they were like always there.

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But like Tatooine is like space travel. Like I understand why the Tuscans are there.

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I don't understand why humans bothered. It's like, do you really have to imperial,

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like conquer and occupy everything?

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Mexico has published their 2026 economic package

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and under the healthy taxes section,

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there is a mention of an 8% special tax on digital services offering violent video games.

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Here's their reason. Recent studies have found a relationship

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between the use of violent video games and higher levels of aggression among adolescents,

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as well as negative social and psychological effects,

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such as isolation and anxiety.

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Referring to the study, the effect of video games on social psychological

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and physiological variables in children and adolescents. There we go.

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The article itself, as some people have pointed out, is actually a well-written study.

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The problem is it's from 2012 and has outdated information such as references to MySpace.

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Others pointed out that the economic package also cherry-picks certain words and cases from the study

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to justify the tax even further.

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Our discussion question is, while the narrative of video games cause violence

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continues to parade through politics and often has studies disproving it,

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even if it were true, is an 8% tax the correct solution

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if they were trying to somehow mitigate the supposed damage that these video games are doing?

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No. So the very fact that their solution is to tax it by 8%

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belies that they obviously don't actually consider this

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to be a problem that they need to solve because if they did, they would have a real solution,

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not just a silly little tax. So basically, yeah, it's a steam tax,

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which, you know, our moisture evaporators

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are only getting two thirds of a cup a day. We can't pay a steam tax.

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Oh, man. I love that you tripped over the name

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cause it's like actually so bad of a name. Yeah.

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Oh, well.

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Yikes. I don't have a lot to say to that other than yikes.

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Sure. Google admits the open web is in rapid decline.

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Google's lawyers in a September 5th court filing

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said the fact is that today, the open web is already in rapid decline.

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They were arguing that the plaintiff's divestiture proposal

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would only accelerate that decline, harming publishers who currently rely on

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open web display advertising revenue. Notable change from May comments

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by Google VP of Search, Nick Fox,

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saying in quotes, from our point of view, the web is thriving.

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But there's good news. A co-creator of RSS, oh yeah, this is actually really interesting.

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A co-creator of RSS, Eckert Walter,

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helped launch RSL, or really simple licensing.

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A free and open standard that RSTechnica calls

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beefed uprobots.txt instructions,

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which is a solution to AI discriminating click-throughs,

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decimating click-throughs, or pay-per-crawl.

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The discussion question is, will LLMs pay up against RSL?

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I mean, no. I mean, they've stolen everything up until now. So what are we, do we really think

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there's any hope that this will fix anything?

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I think that it will help lay legal framework for fighting.

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I think that's really the only chance. I don't think it's actually gonna stop anything

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from happening, but it should put some ammunition

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on the side of people that are upset about it.

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We've got a couple more today. Warner Brothers is an unlikely ally

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in the fight against AI slop and has sued mid-journey.

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On Thursday, Warner Bros. Discovery filed a lawsuit against AI company mid-journey for purposefully

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infringing copyrighted work to the tune of either

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$150,000 per infringed work, which could add up to hundreds of millions,

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or all profits that mid-journey has made related to WB properties.

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In the 101-page suit, Warner Bros. lawyers write,

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evidently mid-journey will not stop stealing property until a court orders it to stop.

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Mid-journey's large-scale infringement is systematic, ongoing, and willful,

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and Warner Bros. Discovery has been and continues to be substantially

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and irreparably harmed by it.

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There's actually some really good examples. Let me check if the polygon, yeah, this is amazing.

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So this is from polygon here. Dan, do you mind linking to the article

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if people wanna check out more of the examples? But this is pretty incriminating.

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Not only did mid-journey clearly output

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know what Superman looks like, but like specifically, specifically, exactly

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what Warner Bros. copyrighted character. And now look, we can have an awful-

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It sped out you. We can have an awful, I don't think that was mid-journey.

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We can have an awful long conversation about whether Warner Bros. fairly compensated

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the creators of various DC characters and properties

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and all of that. That's a longer conversation,

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but what I will say is

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mid-journey looks pretty guilty here.

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And in the current legal framework that is Warner Bros. IP,

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this seems like a pretty big yikes. We just have to find out.

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Again, as all of this makes its way

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through the legal system, are there going to be any consequences?

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And will those consequences be lasting?

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Because the way that I see it, now that all of this is kind of out there,

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there's no way to put Pandora back in her box.

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It's out of the box. So what happens then?

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Does mid-journey go bankrupt, but then a bunch of people

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who have been paying themselves out of mid-journey's investment funds

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and now have their own personal hordes of wealth just start another one and then use what,

03:21:18.340 --> 03:21:21.580
well, mid-journey stole that. I mean, it's just out there now.

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I'm honestly likely finding the same investors again in a lot of cases.

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Same key investors at least.

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Yeah, yeah. Osiris asks, are you going to be seeing

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Super Mario Galaxy in theaters?

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Honestly, I'd rather watch it at home. Is that the name of the sequel?

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I'm amazed they went straight to the galaxy.

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Okay, cool. Yeah, I'd rather watch it at home. Dude, I got a new TV.

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It happened so often. No, it doesn't even happen that often.

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I had the T-Sale for two years. Oh wow. Almost two years.

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It felt a lot shorter than that. Yeah, dude.

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Is that much better?

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It doesn't have as many backlight zones, by a lot,

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which for a TV that size is a bit of a challenge. Can you notice it?

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Yes, but it has an RGB backlight.

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RGB, gamer. Okay, but it actually has benefits for image quality

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because instead of shining white through an LCD, you're shining color.

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So the color volume that it can achieve, and the reason I thought of it is because

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Super Mario Bros. is a movie that looks amazing on it.

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Also, it uses a standard Vesa bolt pattern,

03:22:39.140 --> 03:22:44.900
so I can actually put it on like a standard wall mount, and I can bring it a little closer.

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So my 116 inch TV can be closer to the actual viewing size

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of the 120 inch projector that I used to have mounted right to the wall.

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So, dude.

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Yeah, I would actually seriously rather watch it at home.

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Sweet, heck yeah. Oh, unique username says you've already talked about it.

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Okay, well, it's actually installed now. We installed it on, or not installed.

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We opened it on Monday. I haven't installed it yet. So the video of us opening it and trying it is in the works,

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and then we're actually gonna throw the full gamut

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of Labs testing at it and do an installation vlog,

03:23:21.540 --> 03:23:25.700
and that'll be a second video because it's really expensive. Okay, so I'm not gonna play it because even though

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it's a trailer, we get copyright strikes for trailers all the time.

03:23:29.300 --> 03:23:34.820
Okay. But that looks like what it's called. 13 hours ago from IGN, it's probably real.

03:23:34.820 --> 03:23:38.820
Oh yeah, cool. Official title announcement, Nintendo Direct,

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the Super Mario Galaxy movie.

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Kind of surprised by the title, just like you said. A long time ago in a Super Mario Galaxy far, far away.

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Lossless streaming on Spotify is coming. No, but for real this time.

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It'll be rolling out to more than 50 markets through October with some already starting to get access now.

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The service is going to be included for premium subscribers.

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It won't be a new subscription tier, and it's been a long time coming with rumors starting as early as 2017.

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Coming later this year. Oh, oh, so you're coming later this year in 2021

03:24:11.100 --> 03:24:15.060
and almost ready in May of 2024. Discussion question, do you care?

03:24:17.420 --> 03:24:21.500
Yeah, a little bit, and it just feels like being on

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whatever it's even called now at YouTube Music is just a more and more sad experience over time.

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Really? Well, it used to be Google Play Music. Oh yeah, Google Play was way better.

03:24:31.100 --> 03:24:34.300
And it was actually like a way better app.

03:24:34.300 --> 03:24:38.960
Yeah. And then they just made it way worse. And then I don't think,

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I can't name anything that improved about it since they made the change.

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I can name a couple. What's improved? It's way easier to access music videos.

03:24:49.740 --> 03:24:53.940
No, sorry. Since after the change happened,

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what has, like, okay, we have YouTube Music now.

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Yeah. We're on here now. It's good, cool, whatever. YouTube Music is, it's better for watching music videos

03:25:04.380 --> 03:25:09.380
if you care about that. No, I know. Oh. After we got to, so we got to platform, cool.

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We are here. It's better for finding music videos. What has now happened?

03:25:12.940 --> 03:25:14.300
Because it's been years.

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I can't think of a new feature that came out. The only thing I can think of is they do recaps now,

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which they just stole from Spotify and I don't care about.

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Yeah, I skipped them. Yeah.

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What needs to improve? The user experience of YouTube Music

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is just worse in a lot of ways. Bury the hatchet with Sonos.

03:25:39.700 --> 03:25:43.700
So I can just cast to my Sonos speakers, please.

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The Google Play Sonos experience was,

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or the Google Play Music, oh, it was so good. I would just, I would be listening to my headphones

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as I walked in the door and then I would just have my YouTube,

03:25:55.620 --> 03:25:58.980
or my Google Play Music app open and I would just click cast

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and then select the speaker and it would just cast. And I, like, it wouldn't even practically skip a beat.

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It was amazing. I wish, considering they killed the podcast app,

03:26:08.460 --> 03:26:11.540
if they made podcasts within YouTube Music better,

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I know they're there, but if they made it better, that would be nice. Sorry, handyman.

03:26:14.860 --> 03:26:20.020
I don't think the experience of podcast stuff within YouTube Music is all that fantastic.

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As for lossless formats, honestly, I mean, I don't know, I don't know if I really care.

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I'm, Pankrat's posted in here. I'm just waiting to see the videos

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about how people can definitely hear the difference on their, like, Bluetooth earbuds.

03:26:31.620 --> 03:26:35.940
Yeah, yeah, me too. I think there's a lot of,

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it takes a really, really, really fine setup

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where even, like, the trained ear can, like, really tell the difference between lossless

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and a pretty decently high-quality stream. So for me, I think having lossless just generally

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if I know it's real, it communicates to me that I'm not getting cheaped out on an audio quality.

03:26:55.780 --> 03:27:00.540
But the thing is that it's not, oh, I guess, yeah, not cheaped out on in terms of, like, the cost of delivery,

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but, like, not, the lossless master might not even necessarily be the best one.

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That's fair. So, good luck, everyone.

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I mean, I've danced in a lot of cases. It probably is, but... I don't think I have a particularly fantastic ear,

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but, yeah, yeah, I don't know.

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Yeah, I don't know. That's a good point about the master

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not being necessarily better.

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Flush door handles on EVs can fail, so China is now banning them.

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Whoops, I just moved a thing. With modern EVs and cars, the style has trended towards

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flush and sleek door handle designs. The problem is that in the event of a power loss,

03:27:40.060 --> 03:27:45.100
these handles can prevent people from accessing the car. The main concern comes from emergency situations,

03:27:45.100 --> 03:27:50.300
like first responders not being able to assist easily. China is apparently looking at banning these style handles

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by 2027 for these reasons. And our discussion question here is,

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what is your favorite breakfast cereal? I thought the handle thing is interesting,

03:27:58.660 --> 03:28:02.140
because some of them, you can kind of press in one side,

03:28:02.140 --> 03:28:05.220
and it pops the handle out. Yeah, but it's still powered.

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So it requires power to do that, because there's an assumption with EVs

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that they are always powered, because they don't just run off

03:28:12.340 --> 03:28:15.900
of, like, a 12-volt lead-acid battery for basic functions.

03:28:15.900 --> 03:28:20.380
Like, you've got access to a high-voltage, high-amperage battery pack, because if you didn't,

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then it would be completely off, no one would be operating it. So you press the...

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Isn't it just a lever? It's not just a lever? You press the side and...

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It depends. Not all of them are the same. So there's ones that, when you press it,

03:28:32.460 --> 03:28:39.580
it's like you're opening it, or like the actual retraction, like on the Model S,

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it wasn't even a lever, if I recall correctly. It was, like, fully motorized that it would come out.

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So it just depends.

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I don't know, I've been partial to mini-weights lately, but Elijah said I couldn't think of a good question for this,

03:28:52.180 --> 03:28:57.180
since it seems like a no-duh moment. Thanks, Elijah. I remember the last time I had cereal, so I don't know.

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Oh, yeah, I guess it's just, like, too many calories for you now, too much sugar.

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I haven't been eating as much cereal lately, either. I love cereal, but...

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I'm unhappy. We'll get there, not yet. Yeah, yeah. LIDAR can damage your camera sensor.

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MKBHD shared a video showing his damaged camera sensor

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from the infrared lasers from LIDAR navigation systems on a car.

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This is, in part, due to the Class 1 lasers coming from these sensors,

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but also due to the focusing effect of the camera's lens.

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Here are some shots of the damage from the LIDAR sensors.

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Ru-ro, that's a bummer.

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Naturally, the closer the sensor, the higher the risk of damage. The sensor-damaging lasers are in the infrared spectrum,

03:29:41.940 --> 03:29:45.420
which should not pose a threat to your vision as the fluid in your eye absorbs the infrared light

03:29:45.420 --> 03:29:51.460
before it would damage your retina. This is not health advice, I'm not a doctor, so feel free to keep staring directly into those Waymo's,

03:29:51.460 --> 03:29:55.500
but be careful with your camera sensor. And that's our last topic,

03:29:55.500 --> 03:29:58.780
so why don't we jump into Afterdark?

03:29:58.780 --> 03:30:00.460
Afterdark. Let's do it.

03:30:03.300 --> 03:30:06.580
Man, this felt like a long WAN Show already, didn't it?

03:30:06.580 --> 03:30:11.660
I think it was. Oh, about three and a half hours. Yeah, yeah. Oh, all right, yeah.

03:30:11.660 --> 03:30:15.420
Wow, neat. So we started like mostly on time.

03:30:15.420 --> 03:30:18.860
No, I'm agreeing. No, he's mocking. He's sarcastic. He is mocking you.

03:30:18.860 --> 03:30:22.500
See, that's what I said. It's very easy. That's what I thought. He's just a very mockable.

03:30:22.500 --> 03:30:23.340
Be gone.

03:30:27.340 --> 03:30:31.220
My goodness. Hey, Linus, I'm a huge crosscode fan.

03:30:31.220 --> 03:30:36.140
What made you a fan of the game? Also, are you excited for alabaster dawn?

03:30:36.140 --> 03:30:38.220
Is that their new game? Have they named it?

03:30:40.620 --> 03:30:45.180
What is this? Two and a half D-Action RPG from the creators of Crosscode.

03:30:45.180 --> 03:30:48.620
Does it have a release date? Am I supposed to be excited yet?

03:30:48.620 --> 03:30:51.660
I don't think so. No, to be announced.

03:30:51.660 --> 03:30:54.980
Oh, alabaster dawn.

03:30:54.980 --> 03:30:58.060
Ooh. Demo release date. Demo.

03:30:58.060 --> 03:31:01.340
Demo, you say. Radical fish games.

03:31:01.340 --> 03:31:03.540
I mean, there's like nothing on here.

03:31:05.540 --> 03:31:06.820
Wishless on Steam.

03:31:09.380 --> 03:31:13.820
I mean, I'll obviously play it. Crosscode is so great.

03:31:13.820 --> 03:31:17.420
They had a playable demo at Gamescom 2025.

03:31:17.420 --> 03:31:23.420
Okay. So I thought it was like an online demo, but yeah, I think it's just a playable demo at Gamescom.

03:31:23.420 --> 03:31:27.580
Sounds great. Can't wait. I will, okay.

03:31:28.700 --> 03:31:32.100
We always say don't pre-order, right?

03:31:32.100 --> 03:31:36.900
But, but, but I have actually, there's some precedent for this.

03:31:37.900 --> 03:31:42.580
I, so remember when I pre-ordered Bill Watterson's

03:31:42.580 --> 03:31:46.140
weird adult graphic novel thing that was terrible? Yeah.

03:31:46.140 --> 03:31:50.180
Okay. And remember, do you remember what I said to you though?

03:31:50.180 --> 03:31:53.260
I said, no matter how bad it was. You were going to buy it anyways.

03:31:53.260 --> 03:31:58.020
I could never pay Mr. Watterson enough for Calvin and Hobbes

03:31:58.020 --> 03:32:02.380
and what it meant to me and how much entertainment it has given me over the years.

03:32:02.380 --> 03:32:06.460
He won't take my money in the form of Hobbes plushies for my children.

03:32:06.620 --> 03:32:11.020
So if I have to give him 20 bucks or whatever it is

03:32:11.020 --> 03:32:16.020
for his orderly, worthless, worthless piece of garbage

03:32:17.020 --> 03:32:20.180
adult novel thing, whatever the crap that was,

03:32:20.180 --> 03:32:23.780
I will do it, I will do it happily. I'll do it happily.

03:32:23.780 --> 03:32:25.040
I would buy it again.

03:32:27.460 --> 03:32:31.260
I'm not saying a lot because it was bad. It was awful, truly awful.

03:32:31.260 --> 03:32:35.540
Yeah. Just not maybe not awful, but just pointless.

03:32:37.460 --> 03:32:42.460
So, Radical Fish, same book for me.

03:32:43.380 --> 03:32:50.340
I didn't pay enough for crosscode. So I will just buy the new one and if it totally sucks

03:32:51.740 --> 03:32:56.660
sweaty, peri-donkey dick, I will still have not paid them

03:32:56.660 --> 03:33:01.660
enough for crosscode and I will happily give them the money.

03:33:02.500 --> 03:33:06.460
Make sure you're wishlisting things on Steam too.

03:33:06.460 --> 03:33:10.020
That's really important for creators. It is actually. Super important.

03:33:10.020 --> 03:33:15.900
Up next. Why is it just a funding thing? Nope, it's a Steam algorithm thing.

03:33:15.900 --> 03:33:19.460
Super, super, super important because Steam doesn't have like an engagement platform.

03:33:19.460 --> 03:33:23.260
Yeah, sure. That's it. It's all that matters and it costs nothing.

03:33:23.260 --> 03:33:28.660
Hey y'all, last when Linus mentioned his daughter starting to model for the P1S.

03:33:28.660 --> 03:33:33.740
What modeling program do you have her using? I use Inventor at work and Exit School,

03:33:33.740 --> 03:33:36.340
but money, money, money for a copy for him.

03:33:38.260 --> 03:33:42.020
I think she's using like a free tier of Tinkercad.

03:33:42.020 --> 03:33:46.820
It's whatever they like showed her at the little like maker classes that she goes to.

03:33:46.820 --> 03:33:50.340
Is Tinkercad good? Is there something else she should be using?

03:33:50.340 --> 03:33:54.980
I think that's like an open-ish source. I can't quite remember, but it's pretty good.

03:33:55.940 --> 03:33:59.820
Okay, well she's using Tinkercad. Got her learning solid works, future engineer.

03:34:01.780 --> 03:34:07.780
Yeah, I've been super, super impressed with her taking initiative on this.

03:34:07.780 --> 03:34:11.180
So cool. Yeah, and it's- So cool.

03:34:11.180 --> 03:34:15.580
She hasn't always been the most self-motivated,

03:34:16.500 --> 03:34:21.500
but she is self-motivated to go and like fix it

03:34:21.540 --> 03:34:26.300
when it's not working and to learn more about it.

03:34:26.300 --> 03:34:29.580
Like the fact that she's going and learning about filament types and stuff,

03:34:29.940 --> 03:34:37.660
I'm super impressed by because it's not that simple for like someone who's still around her first decade.

03:34:40.060 --> 03:34:43.220
I'm trying to see if I have any of the stuffed animals.

03:34:43.220 --> 03:34:47.540
She makes stuffed animals now. That's another thing that she's gotten into.

03:34:47.540 --> 03:34:52.380
So Yvonne hasn't done the ShortCircuit on it yet, but she picked up an embroidery machine

03:34:52.380 --> 03:34:55.620
and my daughter's been learning how to use that as well.

03:34:55.660 --> 03:34:59.660
So she's going to be starting to learn both

03:35:02.820 --> 03:35:07.580
like additive manufacturing and some more,

03:35:07.580 --> 03:35:11.780
like I guess it would still be an STL, right? Like an embroidery machine, probably.

03:35:12.660 --> 03:35:16.460
Is it like vectorized, I think? Yeah, I don't know, but she's-

03:35:16.460 --> 03:35:19.540
SVGs and things like that. Think about it like a laser cutter.

03:35:19.540 --> 03:35:22.820
Embroidery is actually really weird if you're doing CNC embroidery.

03:35:22.820 --> 03:35:26.140
It's like stitch types and overlaps

03:35:26.140 --> 03:35:29.540
and it can get really weird. Yeah, so she's getting into all kinds of

03:35:29.540 --> 03:35:34.700
wild stuff these days. So cool, so cool. Anyway, okay.

03:35:34.700 --> 03:35:38.660
Hey, LLD, love the show. Linus, I was wondering if you had any more thoughts

03:35:38.660 --> 03:35:42.420
on the Oslo sleep buds after using them for a moment while.

03:35:42.420 --> 03:35:49.260
My mom and I both got pairs after seeing a review and they've improved, I guess, sleep.

03:35:49.260 --> 03:35:53.900
Generally, I only take those with me on trips

03:35:53.900 --> 03:35:58.900
where I still find the pairing of the air pods.

03:35:59.460 --> 03:36:04.540
Air pods a little bit more painless, but if I'm going to be on like a long flight

03:36:04.540 --> 03:36:10.060
and I really need to not be disrupted by my air pods running out of battery

03:36:10.940 --> 03:36:15.380
and I don't mind like kind of setting up because you have to pair to the base station

03:36:15.380 --> 03:36:17.780
which pairs to your phone, it's a whole thing.

03:36:18.780 --> 03:36:23.740
Really good product, really cool product, but I don't use them super regularly.

03:36:23.740 --> 03:36:27.700
I should probably give them another shot with the latest updates at home. I haven't used them lately

03:36:27.700 --> 03:36:29.900
because I haven't done any overseas travel.

03:36:31.860 --> 03:36:35.140
Hello Linus, this is not a question though. Actually it is.

03:36:35.140 --> 03:36:40.180
You talked before that Linux Linus is perfectly capable of building himself a PC.

03:36:40.180 --> 03:36:43.540
What changed? You just thought to ask? Yeah, I just, I don't know.

03:36:43.540 --> 03:36:46.980
I summoned the bravery to handle the rejection

03:36:46.980 --> 03:36:49.380
if he said no and I shot my shot.

03:36:50.980 --> 03:36:54.500
Hell yeah. And he was super chill and cool about it. Hell yeah.

03:36:57.060 --> 03:37:00.380
With Linus Torvalds potentially coming onto the show,

03:37:00.380 --> 03:37:04.420
is there a possibility to get on Richard Stallman

03:37:04.420 --> 03:37:09.420
and build him a computer with non proprietary software? We need the Stallman build.

03:37:09.420 --> 03:37:14.620
Why don't we see how it goes with Mr. Torvalds first and then we can kind of put together a wish list

03:37:14.620 --> 03:37:18.540
of super cool computer industry luminaries

03:37:18.540 --> 03:37:23.340
to bring on to the show and build computers with. I feel like for Stallman, if we did that,

03:37:23.340 --> 03:37:25.740
if he was cool with it, if, if, if, if, if.

03:37:28.060 --> 03:37:31.260
If risk was at a point where it was like legitimate,

03:37:31.260 --> 03:37:34.980
that would be sick. We could, I mean, we could do a relatively simple build

03:37:34.980 --> 03:37:39.180
and just put one of those risk five motherboards into like a framework or something.

03:37:39.180 --> 03:37:41.940
Yeah. Could be neat.

03:37:42.860 --> 03:37:46.220
Hello, Bob Slob and knob Linus. What was it like?

03:37:46.220 --> 03:37:47.620
Like, who's who?

03:37:50.820 --> 03:37:54.260
I mean, I feel like Bob is the only one that's not horrible.

03:37:54.260 --> 03:37:57.060
I'll take Slob. You'll take Slob. I'll take knob.

03:37:58.580 --> 03:38:02.940
You can be Bob. You know you're not the one who takes knob.

03:38:05.900 --> 03:38:08.660
Anywho. Slurp.

03:38:09.620 --> 03:38:14.580
Linus, what was it like holding a memory module from the Saturn V rocket?

03:38:14.580 --> 03:38:18.100
Oh my God. It's after dark. Shut up.

03:38:20.820 --> 03:38:25.780
It ran out of air. It was like, it was like holding history.

03:38:25.780 --> 03:38:31.540
It was, it was really cool. It, it's, it's one of those emotional experiences

03:38:31.540 --> 03:38:34.620
and normally holding a computer component or whatever is not.

03:38:34.620 --> 03:38:40.740
It's a non-emotional experience, but the craftsmanship or should I say craftsmanship

03:38:40.740 --> 03:38:44.300
because apparently the, the, The woven ones? Yeah.

03:38:44.300 --> 03:38:49.380
The folks who assembled them were almost exclusively women on display was,

03:38:49.380 --> 03:38:56.060
it was just so apparent. So it was somewhere in between a cool piece of technology

03:38:56.060 --> 03:38:58.900
and like literal actual art. Very cool.

03:39:00.220 --> 03:39:03.660
This stuff just, just for reference. Yeah.

03:39:03.700 --> 03:39:07.180
Like what the heck is even going on?

03:39:08.380 --> 03:39:10.460
This is like, I don't know.

03:39:12.180 --> 03:39:16.180
Some of that era's technology is wild.

03:39:17.540 --> 03:39:20.020
My algorithm delivered me the virtual

03:39:21.580 --> 03:39:24.820
inertial reference system with the gyroscopes in the,

03:39:26.620 --> 03:39:30.460
how, how, how is this the biggest slide rules? I was trying to figure out how slide will

03:39:30.460 --> 03:39:33.700
work with my dad the other day. He learned about them in school,

03:39:33.700 --> 03:39:39.940
never know how he figured it out. Anyway, Luke, you spoke a bit about classic battlefield

03:39:39.940 --> 03:39:43.540
last week. I also miss maps like battle of Britain,

03:39:43.540 --> 03:39:48.260
filling up a bomber with six players. Also, did you ever play battlefield Vietnam?

03:39:48.260 --> 03:39:52.580
Yeah, I think I played pretty much all of the old battlefields. I didn't know they did a battlefield Vietnam.

03:39:52.580 --> 03:39:57.100
That's a weird war to make a video game about. Wasn't that, I thought that might have been an expansion.

03:39:57.100 --> 03:39:59.860
The problem with the game is that you just can't win.

03:40:00.660 --> 03:40:02.500
Rough.

03:40:03.700 --> 03:40:07.020
Oh yeah, yeah. Is this a full game? I remember this actually.

03:40:07.020 --> 03:40:10.740
I think it was an expansion. No, it's a full game. Shut up.

03:40:12.220 --> 03:40:17.060
Developed by Digital Illusions Canada. I know I played it, but I thought it was an expansion.

03:40:17.060 --> 03:40:20.820
Maybe by Canadian standards, you know, the Vietnam war wasn't that bad.

03:40:23.380 --> 03:40:25.740
Yeah, fair. Oh yeah, that was like a Tuesday.

03:40:27.660 --> 03:40:34.340
I don't think we wrote any conventions that time. Yeah, we didn't make the chemicals.

03:40:34.340 --> 03:40:38.140
Yeah, exactly. Maybe they learned from us.

03:40:38.140 --> 03:40:41.740
Include us next time. Apparently, it was the first with helicopters. We have ideas.

03:40:43.940 --> 03:40:48.580
What if you put the gas in the cans?

03:40:48.580 --> 03:40:52.060
Instead of helicopters, blades, they're actually blades.

03:40:53.220 --> 03:40:56.220
Just more on the bottom. Chainsaw.

03:40:56.220 --> 03:40:58.900
I'm already hiccuping so much. My God.

03:40:59.820 --> 03:41:05.100
But yeah, no, I loved Battlefield games. I think I don't think it's just Battlefield the problem.

03:41:05.100 --> 03:41:08.860
I think triple AAA is a whole kind of lost the plot there

03:41:08.860 --> 03:41:11.300
for a long time for getting the games needed to be fun.

03:41:13.260 --> 03:41:15.900
They focused on graphics. They focused on.

03:41:18.380 --> 03:41:22.780
Just a wide variety of things that weren't just like the game

03:41:22.780 --> 03:41:29.660
being good and fun. And it seems like we might maybe, in some cases,

03:41:29.660 --> 03:41:34.020
be coming back to that, which is cool. Hopefully the next GTA is good.

03:41:34.020 --> 03:41:37.100
Hopefully the next Battlefield is good. And hopefully we keep going from there.

03:41:37.100 --> 03:41:39.300
But we'll see. I can't even talk.

03:41:41.100 --> 03:41:46.220
Heller Lemus. Watch the Chromebook video and was wondering

03:41:46.220 --> 03:41:50.140
what the most awkward situation you were in when in public.

03:41:50.140 --> 03:41:53.540
I'm sure lots of recognition happens at Best Buy.

03:41:56.100 --> 03:41:57.620
Oh, man, awkward.

03:42:00.100 --> 03:42:03.380
Man, I can't, I don't even know if I can remember anymore.

03:42:03.380 --> 03:42:06.980
Every time, it's like, what was the most X that you Y?

03:42:06.980 --> 03:42:11.900
I have such a hard time. It's like, never gonna be accurate. It's just gonna be whatever one you remember.

03:42:11.900 --> 03:42:15.180
Oh, the worst one you remember that moment.

03:42:15.180 --> 03:42:22.060
Man, I'm like awkward all the time. I had an employee come and say bye to me recently

03:42:22.900 --> 03:42:28.660
because it was their last day and just to shake hands. And I was, and I was like,

03:42:28.660 --> 03:42:31.940
I said something like completely wrong.

03:42:31.940 --> 03:42:36.660
Oh yeah, I remember what I said. I remember what I said. I was, I said welcome.

03:42:38.180 --> 03:42:41.900
Because I just, my brain completely, the opposite it.

03:42:42.860 --> 03:42:47.020
What I meant to say was like, thanks for everything, you know?

03:42:47.020 --> 03:42:50.780
And they were like, I said welcome like I'd never met them.

03:42:50.780 --> 03:42:54.580
They worked here over two years. Like I completely knew who they were.

03:42:54.580 --> 03:42:57.700
And I knew they were coming because I knew that they had tendered their resignation

03:42:57.700 --> 03:43:01.700
a little while ago. And I was just like, I was like, welcome.

03:43:03.060 --> 03:43:05.980
And then as I tried to recover, I made it like way worse.

03:43:07.540 --> 03:43:10.820
Yeah. So that wasn't in public, but it sucked.

03:43:10.820 --> 03:43:15.580
That's pretty epic. Yeah, I just, dude, when I'm on the spot,

03:43:15.580 --> 03:43:19.020
I just can say just like the dumbest stuff. Like I think I've told the story about the time

03:43:19.020 --> 03:43:23.620
when the border guards asked me where I was going. And I said the wrong place just because I was tense,

03:43:23.620 --> 03:43:25.700
not because I was doing anything illicit.

03:43:27.260 --> 03:43:30.900
Ah, anyway. Where are you off to? Crimes?

03:43:32.500 --> 03:43:36.380
Last one I got for you today. Oh, you missed the Chromebook one. Did you skip that one?

03:43:36.380 --> 03:43:39.740
Oh, I thought that was it. Oh, wait, that was it. Yep, good job. Was that it?

03:43:39.740 --> 03:43:44.420
Okay, thank God. Would be awesome to know what the pool of mystery items is.

03:43:44.420 --> 03:43:47.820
I would grab a mystery hoodie if that was the case. Also, I'm colorblind.

03:43:47.820 --> 03:43:53.180
What color is iron? Cargo pants. Oh, iron is not the ones I'm wearing.

03:43:53.180 --> 03:43:57.940
I'm wearing the blue ones, gray. So they're not, they're what you see.

03:43:57.940 --> 03:44:03.100
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you should be able to handle it.

03:44:03.100 --> 03:44:07.180
Pool of mystery items. Yeah, but that's the point of mystery items is that they're kind of whatever they are.

03:44:07.180 --> 03:44:10.860
And that's why they're cheaper. Would make it really tedious because it like constantly changes.

03:44:10.860 --> 03:44:16.180
Yeah. So it's supposed to be a low cost way of liquidating stuff

03:44:16.180 --> 03:44:21.460
that we need to liquidate for whatever reason. And actual last one, how do you,

03:44:21.460 --> 03:44:26.900
have you guys heard about the DDoS attacks happening to Fafrever?

03:44:26.900 --> 03:44:30.020
Faferever. Faferever. That's hard.

03:44:30.020 --> 03:44:33.500
Supreme commander. Oh, the new one, yeah?

03:44:33.500 --> 03:44:36.900
No, no, the old one. The old one. Forged Alliance forever.

03:44:36.900 --> 03:44:40.500
It's a community project. The fact that someone's attacking this is. Oh, damn.

03:44:40.500 --> 03:44:45.660
Whoever's attacking this is a butthole. They are asking for help defending, like a sphincter.

03:44:46.300 --> 03:44:49.420
Tight? No. No.

03:44:49.420 --> 03:44:52.940
Damn. And dirty. No. The continuous.

03:44:52.940 --> 03:45:00.300
Unwashed sphincter. Leaks. The continuation of Faferever on their form.

03:45:00.300 --> 03:45:04.500
Yeah. I hadn't heard about the DDoS attacks. That's super uncool.

03:45:04.500 --> 03:45:07.980
And I don't even know how we would begin to.

03:45:07.980 --> 03:45:12.020
What do they want? They want help defending DDoS attacks, but like.

03:45:12.020 --> 03:45:15.460
Yeah, but what is it? Did someone have a link to them talking about this

03:45:15.460 --> 03:45:16.300
or something?

03:45:18.940 --> 03:45:23.380
Faferever. Faferever. Faferever, Dan, for crying out loud.

03:45:23.380 --> 03:45:28.140
Faferever. It's just forged alliance. Why is this happening?

03:45:28.140 --> 03:45:31.380
It's just forged alliance forever. It's just recompense for XE.

03:45:31.380 --> 03:45:35.380
I guess. Oh my goodness. No, I mean my hiccups.

03:45:35.380 --> 03:45:40.620
Not you saying it weirdly. They need contributors with solid software development

03:45:40.620 --> 03:45:43.140
background to help address the latest attack vectors.

03:45:46.460 --> 03:45:50.980
Yeah. This is such a bummer to read.

03:45:50.980 --> 03:45:54.500
The past decade of the internet, the past decade the internet has changed significantly.

03:45:54.500 --> 03:46:00.100
In my personal view, the internet used to be more innocent. As a small open source service provider, such as Faferever,

03:46:00.100 --> 03:46:03.420
it was unthinkable that we would be the target of malicious actors.

03:46:03.420 --> 03:46:06.540
And because of that, the infrastructure was never designed to be resilient.

03:46:06.540 --> 03:46:10.100
Of course, their basic authentication and authorization checks. But in general, our implementation

03:46:10.100 --> 03:46:12.700
assumed the user consuming the service acted in good faith.

03:46:16.460 --> 03:46:19.380
Yeah. A lot of the internet kind of just sucks now.

03:46:22.900 --> 03:46:23.400
Man.

03:46:27.100 --> 03:46:28.540
This is so not cool.

03:46:32.860 --> 03:46:36.500
Unfortunately, I don't have any development help to offer.

03:46:36.500 --> 03:46:40.740
But what I do have is a farewell for all of you.

03:46:40.740 --> 03:46:44.580
We'll see you again next week. Same bad time, same bad channel.

03:46:44.580 --> 03:46:49.700
This is not the show you're looking for anymore tonight.

03:46:49.700 --> 03:46:52.300
Bye. Buddha, Buddha. Mind trick.

03:46:58.300 --> 03:47:02.340
I'm going to crash so hard. I'm sorry, it was such a long show.