WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:05.620 This is the brand new Apple Pencil Pro. 00:00:05.620 --> 00:00:11.440 It gives artists pressure sensitivity, tilt, the brand new and magical barrel roll feature 00:00:11.440 --> 00:00:15.360 alongside the squeeze and double tap functions. 00:00:15.360 --> 00:00:21.040 At $130, plus the latest iPad with all its capabilities, it is an impressive piece of 00:00:21.040 --> 00:00:27.760 kit. This Wacom Cintiq Pro doesn't have barrel roll, tilt requires meticulous configuration 00:00:27.760 --> 00:00:31.160 in Photoshop and you can't take it anywhere either. 00:00:31.160 --> 00:00:37.120 For all of this, you'll have to dole out $3,500 and yet all the professional artists 00:00:37.120 --> 00:00:46.360 I've met use this for their work and not Apple, why? 00:00:46.360 --> 00:00:50.840 To find out, I connected with professional artist Elizabeth Scott, whose credits include 00:00:50.840 --> 00:00:58.640 background work on Rick and Morty. It was really cool, that was the second show I ever worked on and it's cool to work on 00:00:58.640 --> 00:01:07.720 a show that has such a big name that so many people know. She too uses a Cintiq, the older HD22 model, for her professional background work. 00:01:07.720 --> 00:01:11.520 But she also has a 6-gen iPad with a pencil too. 00:01:11.520 --> 00:01:16.080 I'm not a huge tech person so I won't spend money on tech if I don't have to. 00:01:16.080 --> 00:01:20.680 And I think that was, at the time and even now, like the cheapest version of the iPad 00:01:20.680 --> 00:01:24.080 you can use with the Apple Pencil. So what do you mean by you're not much of a tech person? 00:01:24.080 --> 00:01:30.240 I don't care to learn anything about tech, I don't need to know. 00:01:30.240 --> 00:01:36.280 I guess like, so the 22 HD Cintiq that I used, that's what I learned to draw in school, 00:01:36.280 --> 00:01:41.960 that's what I used at work. I'm worried that this is going to be a lot harder than I initially imagined, but considering 00:01:41.960 --> 00:01:45.600 what's new on the Pencil Pro, I'm sure she's going to love it. 00:01:45.600 --> 00:01:49.040 Are you ready to try these things out? Yeah. Okay, let's go. 00:01:49.040 --> 00:01:57.600 I hope she's going to love it. Okay, so this is the new iPad Pro with the new Pencil Pro. 00:01:57.600 --> 00:02:02.320 Want to give it a try? Sure. Okay. 00:02:02.320 --> 00:02:07.560 The first thing I notice about it is I don't like how clicky the pen is on the screen. 00:02:07.560 --> 00:02:10.720 I don't like the feeling of drawing on glass and I feel like my hand's kind of sticking 00:02:10.720 --> 00:02:16.720 to it a little bit. Well, I might have a solution to give the iPad a fighting chance and that's this for 00:02:16.720 --> 00:02:24.760 you to sponsor paper-like. So it means I have to put the screen protector on, which is a very daunting task. 00:02:24.760 --> 00:02:29.200 So I'll go do this and you can try the Cintiq Pro. 00:02:29.200 --> 00:02:36.440 All right, so I guess we should show her the best of what Wacom has to offer. 00:02:36.440 --> 00:02:42.920 At $3,500, the 27-inch Cintiq Pro is the largest and best in their lineup. 00:02:42.920 --> 00:02:47.200 As the top-end drawing tablet, it is the dream for all artists, available in three sizes 00:02:47.200 --> 00:02:53.760 all with precise UHD resolution, 120 Hz refresh rate, and over 8,000 levels of pressure sensitivity 00:02:53.760 --> 00:02:59.680 from the Pro Pen 3. 00:02:59.680 --> 00:03:05.760 First thought is I like the way that this pen feels. The Cintiq pen that I'm used to is a little bit thicker. 00:03:05.760 --> 00:03:08.920 I like that this is skinny. It just kind of feels like a regular pencil. 00:03:08.920 --> 00:03:12.560 It's nice and light. Are you talking about the pen? Yeah. 00:03:12.560 --> 00:03:16.040 It's actually really customizable. Oh, is it? Yeah. 00:03:16.040 --> 00:03:21.980 Let me go get the things. Just like an Apple Pencil, the Wacom Pro Pen is customizable to your heart's content 00:03:21.980 --> 00:03:28.640 with two grips, weights, extra buttons, and two different nibs. 00:03:28.640 --> 00:03:32.840 So how did you customize the pen? So I added a weight to make it a little bit heavier on the bottom. 00:03:32.840 --> 00:03:36.920 I also changed the tip to a felt tip because it feels a little bit nicer unless clicking 00:03:36.920 --> 00:03:41.840 on the screen. And normally I have a grip on my pen, but I like how skinny and light it is without 00:03:41.840 --> 00:03:48.840 it, so I left it off. 00:03:48.840 --> 00:03:53.840 Oh my goodness. 00:03:53.840 --> 00:03:56.840 This looks pretty good. So what are you drawing? I'm drawing a background. 00:03:56.840 --> 00:04:00.560 I use Cintiqs to draw backgrounds for work. 00:04:00.560 --> 00:04:04.520 So this is what I'm used to working with professionally. So what background are you drawing? 00:04:04.520 --> 00:04:08.040 There's a lot going on in this. This is a little... It's a very informal space. 00:04:08.040 --> 00:04:12.560 It's a little heritage house, I guess. Something I haven't drawn before. 00:04:12.560 --> 00:04:19.800 It's not just the pen you can customize, too. The Cintiq Pro also has control buttons on either side of the screen and on the pen that 00:04:19.800 --> 00:04:23.480 could be mapped to any keyboard shortcut you desire. 00:04:23.480 --> 00:04:26.520 Oh, very cool. 00:04:26.520 --> 00:04:30.840 I think my first impression is having the Express keys is really nice. 00:04:30.840 --> 00:04:34.480 Personally, I use a lot of functions on the keyboard, so I don't know if I could go without 00:04:34.480 --> 00:04:41.040 a keyboard. But on the pen, having an undo feature is very helpful, and I would use that all the 00:04:41.040 --> 00:04:46.440 time. I will say that it does require a bit of time to get the feel for the buttons, and in my 00:04:46.440 --> 00:04:50.440 experience, the ones in the back of the monitor do activate quite easily, too. 00:04:50.440 --> 00:04:54.720 Okay, I'm noticing you're wearing this kind of fancy glove. 00:04:54.720 --> 00:04:57.960 Yes. What is that? So this is a drawing glove. 00:04:57.960 --> 00:05:02.320 You don't need it. I just find that when you're drawing for a long time and the screen gets warm, sometimes 00:05:02.320 --> 00:05:06.160 your hand kind of sticks to the screen, and so it's easier to draw smoother lines. 00:05:06.160 --> 00:05:10.080 One of the things you're paying for with the Cintiq Pro is the display's quality, and 00:05:10.080 --> 00:05:14.640 so I got Labs to run some tests to see how close the display matches Wacken's claims. 00:05:14.640 --> 00:05:19.260 Indeed, it covers the gamuts when in native mode, but strays from its claimed figures 00:05:19.260 --> 00:05:23.760 due to some aggressive clamping when in the targeted color profile modes. 00:05:23.760 --> 00:05:30.200 So what do you picture? This is a low angle, too. So what's going to happen in this scene that you created? 00:05:30.200 --> 00:05:35.520 Well, I'm used to drawing at pretty much eye level, so sometimes it's nice to just 00:05:35.520 --> 00:05:39.360 play around with angles, try something you wouldn't normally do, something like it's 00:05:39.360 --> 00:05:43.900 a little more of a storytelling tool, like maybe this is from like a child's perspective 00:05:43.900 --> 00:05:47.680 or a pet's perspective, just adds a little more to the narrative. 00:05:47.680 --> 00:05:51.320 With the new Cintiq Pro, like how does it compare to the one you've been using? 00:05:51.320 --> 00:05:55.600 It's bigger, and the screen is cleaner. 00:05:55.600 --> 00:06:01.720 I don't notice a huge difference. The thing that stands out to me, actually, is I like the feel of the pen better. 00:06:01.720 --> 00:06:06.760 I guess I do notice, you said there are more sensitivity levels. 00:06:06.760 --> 00:06:11.920 I noticed that a little bit. If you didn't mention that to me, I probably wouldn't have noticed it. 00:06:11.920 --> 00:06:16.760 As I've learned in the past, pressure sensitivity is very important for digital artists, and 00:06:16.760 --> 00:06:21.840 the original pencil brought it together with automatic tilt sensitivity, too, which Elizabeth 00:06:21.840 --> 00:06:24.920 doesn't use in her work, it seems. 00:06:25.000 --> 00:06:30.840 With an Apple Pencil, and actually even with the third-party cheap ones, you can have a 00:06:30.840 --> 00:06:35.760 tool where when you go straight on it looks like that, and when you go on an edge, it 00:06:35.760 --> 00:06:39.680 looks like that. That's really nice. It is. 00:06:39.680 --> 00:06:44.600 But there's not a thing on here. No, not that I know of. 00:06:44.600 --> 00:06:49.360 So then how do you adjust tilt? Like you have to do it manually, or do you care? 00:06:49.360 --> 00:06:52.920 Sometimes if I'm doing shading or something, I'll use a different brush or I'll lower the opacity. 00:06:52.920 --> 00:06:56.240 Pressure sensitivity is what I use most of the time. 00:06:56.240 --> 00:07:01.760 Huh. So like all professional artists just don't care about tilt? 00:07:01.760 --> 00:07:05.240 Maybe some do. I don't really use it for the work that I do. 00:07:05.240 --> 00:07:10.280 And none of your colleagues have been like, what? You don't have tilt on? No, I haven't been bullied for it. 00:07:10.280 --> 00:07:15.320 The Wacom does support tilt, but it requires setting your brushes up manually in the respective 00:07:15.320 --> 00:07:20.320 settings to get it to work, which as we've learned is something Elizabeth definitely 00:07:20.320 --> 00:07:25.320 won't do. But what about the other magical features added to the Pencil Pro? 00:07:25.320 --> 00:07:30.480 So you use Photoshop professionally on the PC, but you told me that you also use Procrate 00:07:30.480 --> 00:07:36.240 on the iPad exclusively, and that is where the magic of the new Pencil Pro will rise 00:07:36.240 --> 00:07:39.440 to the top. So they've added two significant new features. 00:07:39.440 --> 00:07:44.120 One is squeeze, which you can set to open up a quick menu, and the other is barrel roll. 00:07:44.120 --> 00:07:49.680 And there's a sensor that senses the rotate of the pencil and then can apply that to certain 00:07:49.680 --> 00:07:55.560 brushes in Procrate. Okay, I'll be interested to see how that is, because if it works smoothly, that'll be really 00:07:55.560 --> 00:07:58.560 helpful. So, just squeeze. 00:07:58.560 --> 00:08:08.960 Oh, interesting. This could be really handy. I'm going to try just drawing something like that, and then, oh, it flips the whole canvas. 00:08:08.960 --> 00:08:12.000 Okay, I'm used to being able to flip the drawing. 00:08:12.000 --> 00:08:15.880 It's cool that it flips the entire canvas. Well, I don't know, fiddle around. 00:08:15.880 --> 00:08:18.880 See how the barrel works? 00:08:18.880 --> 00:08:23.800 That's really nice. I would, man, I would use that all the time. 00:08:23.800 --> 00:08:28.120 I'm kind of surprised that that's not a basic feature in this antique, for example, because 00:08:28.120 --> 00:08:33.840 I feel like everyone would use that all the time. Well, they told me it was, and no one used it. 00:08:33.840 --> 00:08:37.320 Oh. So, and then they discontinued the pen that supported it. 00:08:37.320 --> 00:08:42.840 It was really good. I was really impressed by it. When you told me that was a feature, I was kind of like, that sounds too good to be true. 00:08:42.840 --> 00:08:46.840 I'll believe it when I see it, because I personally like brushes that are long and skinny, and 00:08:46.840 --> 00:08:50.440 so every time you have to rotate when you want to do a new stroke, you have to right-click, 00:08:50.440 --> 00:08:56.200 rotate the brush. There are occasions where it's like a little bit jittery, I feel like, but I would use that 00:08:56.200 --> 00:09:03.600 all the time. Why? Because, well, being able to see where your brush is going to be and what angle it's at 00:09:03.600 --> 00:09:08.600 is fantastic, because without that, sometimes you put a stroke down, and it's not exactly 00:09:08.600 --> 00:09:13.800 the way you want it, so you have to undo it. So being able to see in advance where the brush is going to be is awesome. 00:09:13.800 --> 00:09:19.560 Okay. So why don't we open up the iPad version of Photoshop and have you finish your drawing 00:09:19.560 --> 00:09:26.760 on here? The lowest price of entry for someone looking to get an Apple Pencil Pro is actually $730, 00:09:26.760 --> 00:09:34.280 because you'll need to buy an M2 iPad Air to go with it. Mercifully, Apple now offers a 13-inch version for only $200 more, instead of forcing you 00:09:34.280 --> 00:09:38.120 to go with a large Pro like the one we're using here. 00:09:38.120 --> 00:09:47.520 This one costs $1,300. So I'm not as familiar with the iPad version of Photoshop, so it's taken me a second to 00:09:47.520 --> 00:09:52.800 get acquainted with it. That's understandable. Uh, okay. 00:09:52.800 --> 00:09:57.480 One thing that I noticed right away for what I do professionally is I use the transform 00:09:57.480 --> 00:10:02.040 tool a lot. There's a few different versions of the transform tool, and immediately I think that would be 00:10:02.040 --> 00:10:08.640 kind of difficult to do on here. Apple says the iPad is a computer, but as I've complained about it in the past, apps are 00:10:08.640 --> 00:10:14.120 just different on it. And for an established professional like Elizabeth, any limitations to how the software operates 00:10:14.120 --> 00:10:18.960 is a non-starter. Oh man. I don't know what any of these are. 00:10:18.960 --> 00:10:22.520 So this, so you don't like this? No. 00:10:22.520 --> 00:10:30.440 Immediately. Uh, it would take some time to get used to. The iPad supports sidecar, so you literally can plug your iPad into your Mac and it becomes 00:10:30.440 --> 00:10:33.560 another screen. Oh, okay. Yeah, now I'm at home. 00:10:33.560 --> 00:10:36.720 I like this better. This is actually, this is actually pretty nice. 00:10:36.720 --> 00:10:44.600 I wasn't sure because the screen is smaller than the Cintiq, but this is pretty good. 00:10:44.600 --> 00:10:48.480 The icons are a bit smaller, but like not enough that it bothers me. 00:10:48.480 --> 00:10:51.720 And it doesn't feel like it's like low-res or anything like that. 00:10:51.720 --> 00:10:55.880 I mean, you do kind of get like a weird little blob at the beginning sometimes. 00:10:55.880 --> 00:11:00.680 Is that a deal-breaker? Yeah, I think it would get really annoying after a while. 00:11:00.680 --> 00:11:04.160 I'm going to try it with smoothing and see how much of a difference that makes. 00:11:04.160 --> 00:11:08.400 Yeah, it still does it. But to me, it's kind of annoying, so it's not the screen protector. 00:11:08.400 --> 00:11:13.320 I think it's maybe just some sort of pencil connection thing. 00:11:13.320 --> 00:11:19.720 This is so close. The seamless way the iPad works as a drawing tablet with a Mac is surprising and impressive, 00:11:19.720 --> 00:11:23.560 but there are just a few niggles that make it less than perfect. 00:11:23.560 --> 00:11:27.280 But Wacom has another portable alternative option for artists. 00:11:27.280 --> 00:11:32.720 It's called the Movinck and it's a super-thin 13-inch OLED monitor with all the same capability 00:11:32.720 --> 00:11:37.840 as the Cintiq. Thank you. This is the same pen, just is not quite as customizable. 00:11:37.840 --> 00:11:41.840 They don't have the weights. They just have a couple extra nibs in the back, but it's exactly the same pen that you were 00:11:41.840 --> 00:11:49.000 using before. Let's see if it does the same glitch that we were having an issue with on the pressure 00:11:49.000 --> 00:11:54.520 sensor. Okay, same brush. I'm going to turn off the smoothing. 00:11:54.520 --> 00:11:58.320 No, that feels really nice actually. 00:11:58.320 --> 00:12:02.160 So this actually was now working better than the iPad and pencil through Sidecar. 00:12:02.160 --> 00:12:06.840 Yeah. Yeah. Well, there's not that glitch, which is really nice. 00:12:06.840 --> 00:12:11.080 And also just in general, it feels a lot smoother. It's not as jittery as the Apple Pencil. 00:12:11.080 --> 00:12:15.360 So there's a bit of a compromise with the pencil. It's like usable, but... 00:12:15.360 --> 00:12:20.840 I also like the feel of this pencil better and I found myself a couple times accidentally 00:12:20.840 --> 00:12:25.120 like squeezing the Apple Pencil so the menu would pop up, which I don't know. 00:12:25.120 --> 00:12:29.640 I guess you could get used to, but just as someone who's not used to them, I really like 00:12:29.640 --> 00:12:35.640 the feel of this. This testing of this little screen showed that it can display a lot of colors, just 00:12:35.640 --> 00:12:41.160 not as accurately as either the Cintiq Pro or of course the OLED iPad Pro. 00:12:41.160 --> 00:12:45.160 Likely because of a gamma tracking issue they noticed on all of the tests. 00:12:45.160 --> 00:12:51.080 The Cintiq is the industry standard. So I would say, I would say go with the Cintiq. 00:12:51.080 --> 00:12:56.800 I really liked the model we used today, but I think the Movenk is probably next under 00:12:56.800 --> 00:13:01.120 that for me. And then I'd probably put the iPad at the bottom. 00:13:01.120 --> 00:13:05.640 If you're thinking of working professionally, but again, I really like the iPad for Procreate. 00:13:05.640 --> 00:13:10.280 I just like them for different things. For personal work, the iPad's really portable. 00:13:10.280 --> 00:13:14.320 I like how simple the interface is with Procreate, but if you're just going to be sitting at 00:13:14.320 --> 00:13:19.600 a desk, which a lot of people in the industry are, then it's nice to have like a big tablet 00:13:19.600 --> 00:13:24.200 that you can draw on. The big advantage with this Cintiq is it's so big. 00:13:24.200 --> 00:13:27.200 That's what I like about it. I don't know. You just want a big iPad. 00:13:27.200 --> 00:13:30.580 Yeah, I guess I do. Like a 20-inch iPad. Yeah, that'd be perfect. 00:13:30.580 --> 00:13:34.140 What features from the iPad would you want on the Cintiq? Brow roll and hover. 00:13:34.140 --> 00:13:37.940 I'm going to go home and be thinking about how much I like it. 00:13:37.940 --> 00:13:40.980 Next time I draw on my iPad, I'm going to be like, it's not the same. 00:13:40.980 --> 00:13:45.900 All right. Well, it looks like despite their vast differences, Elizabeth is going to go out there and get 00:13:45.900 --> 00:13:51.300 an iPad and Apple Pencil Pro. I cannot stress enough how much I won't spend money on tech if I don't have to. 00:13:51.300 --> 00:13:57.220 So I think that is something I will look forward to buying when my iPad dies, but it's not 00:13:57.220 --> 00:14:01.180 enough for me to switch right now while my iPad still works. 00:14:01.180 --> 00:14:05.380 Oh, wow. I love what she did with the place. 00:14:05.380 --> 00:14:08.700 Though, I haven't felt this short since I was a boy. 00:14:08.700 --> 00:14:11.980 Anyway, thanks Elizabeth for drawing this Mac Address. 00:14:11.980 --> 00:14:17.780 I'm curious in the comments of you artists, whom of you use a Wacom Cintiq and an iPad 00:14:17.780 --> 00:14:22.420 or both? And if you want to watch another video we've done, you can check out the one with Audrey 00:14:22.420 --> 00:14:25.580 where we compared an Apple Pencil to some cheaper alternatives.