WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:07.360 This is the 1x player 1x fly apex the fastest gaming handheld in the world 00:00:07.760 --> 00:00:13.520 But we're not gonna look at that just yet because I want to look at this the frost bay a 00:00:14.400 --> 00:00:19.500 Water-cooling unit that takes it from 80 watts TDP all the way up to a whopping 00:00:20.280 --> 00:00:25.080 120 Wow 00:00:29.280 --> 00:00:31.480 What is handheld about this 00:00:33.400 --> 00:00:39.360 This is a whole freaking water cooling setup you got your radiator you've got your 00:00:40.120 --> 00:00:45.480 Seriously, you're ripped off the cooler master logo and called it cooler doctor 00:00:46.240 --> 00:00:52.640 Philport Wait, wait 00:00:55.440 --> 00:01:02.400 No Ain't no way. I mean that's all that's in here other than of course this quick connect water cooling tube thing 00:01:03.040 --> 00:01:06.440 Rotates counterclockwise to lock that is counter 00:01:07.640 --> 00:01:16.640 Intuitive Let's have a look at the apex. I'm legitimately so excited to check this thing out 00:01:16.640 --> 00:01:21.360 It's a direct competitor to the gpd win 5 which I've been really enjoying 00:01:21.360 --> 00:01:26.400 I played through just about all of expedition 33 on it and I had an amazing experience 00:01:26.640 --> 00:01:34.040 Thanks to the up to Ryzen AI max 395 plus processor that thing is an absolute 00:01:34.600 --> 00:01:39.480 Monster I'm talking 16 Zen 5 CPU course 32 threads 00:01:39.680 --> 00:01:47.520 8,000 megatransfer per second LP DDR5 x memory which matters a lot because of the Radeon 80 60 s 00:01:48.120 --> 00:01:53.280 GPU you can run triple a games on this handheld on its 8 inch 00:01:54.280 --> 00:01:58.360 1200p display at like high settings and 00:01:59.160 --> 00:02:01.160 I gotta say I 00:02:02.320 --> 00:02:08.720 Think they actually kind of nailed the ergonomics for it to be clear. This is a heavy handheld 00:02:09.680 --> 00:02:12.640 And I don't even have a battery attached to it yet 00:02:13.800 --> 00:02:24.160 But it's quite holdable for an 8 inch Alright, let's have a look at the inputs and outputs. Shall we we've got capacitive joysticks pretty satisfying feeling clicky d-pad 00:02:25.360 --> 00:02:27.960 Oh, I really like the face buttons, too 00:02:29.200 --> 00:02:35.920 Nice clicky micro switch style, but with a little bit of travel before you get to the click. I really like that 00:02:35.920 --> 00:02:40.520 It's almost like a like a hybrid approach Hall effect triggers that have a 00:02:41.880 --> 00:02:49.760 Hair trigger switch That's not the most responsive hair trigger switch. I've never seen but it's not bad very reachable shoulders 00:02:50.600 --> 00:02:54.160 Actually love the ergonomics of that along the top. We've got a headphone jack 00:02:54.600 --> 00:02:59.680 Fingerprint sensing power button volume rocker USB a barrel jack. Okay 00:02:59.680 --> 00:03:08.120 We're gonna have to talk about power profiles and charging quite a bit and a USB 4 port that does 40 gigabit per second and can charge but 00:03:08.840 --> 00:03:17.400 Okay, I guess we're gonna get into it a little bit now The device is limited to 55 watts TDP while we're plugged into that. What's this? 00:03:19.880 --> 00:03:23.280 All right So the water cooling is actually 00:03:23.520 --> 00:03:31.520 Optional you can get it with or without and then if you get the water cooling add-on you can buy the frost bay for another 00:03:31.760 --> 00:03:33.760 $200 which I 00:03:35.400 --> 00:03:39.680 Mean it's not a little bit, but it's also not a lot for an external water cooling 00:03:39.680 --> 00:03:42.480 It doesn't seem outlandish also on the back here 00:03:43.320 --> 00:03:46.320 got a couple paddle buttons and oh 00:03:47.080 --> 00:03:53.720 Interesting did 1x player use the same battery interface as GPD it looks 00:03:54.760 --> 00:03:59.440 Extremely similar, but apparently is not quite the same. That's actually a bit of a disappointment 00:03:59.440 --> 00:04:05.960 I'd prefer they were the same along the bottom. We've got another type C port a micro SD slot and then 00:04:06.600 --> 00:04:10.080 Speaking of copying homework a mini SSD slot 00:04:10.160 --> 00:04:18.760 There aren't a lot of options for occupying this But by when makes one and it can be found in up to two terabyte capacities and is much faster than a micro SD card 00:04:19.080 --> 00:04:23.920 What else is in the box? Now let's talk about that battery 00:04:24.960 --> 00:04:29.720 Whoo She was already a little on the heavier side 00:04:30.400 --> 00:04:35.200 Now she's even a heavier. This is an 85 watt hour battery that 00:04:36.560 --> 00:04:40.160 Unfortunately at the highest wattage that this thing can run at 00:04:40.640 --> 00:04:44.760 It's not actually gonna last you that long to their credit though 00:04:44.760 --> 00:04:49.720 One X player did what I would have liked GPD to do and they put a kickstand on the battery 00:04:49.760 --> 00:04:57.360 So you can actually use a kickstand with this thing. Wow more copied homework. This is pretty much the same 00:04:57.880 --> 00:04:59.880 like interface I 00:05:00.920 --> 00:05:07.440 Suspect that one X player knows that not many people are gonna buy this water cooled option unless they're planning to use this like 00:05:08.400 --> 00:05:13.880 Functionally as a desktop, which you could I mean it's a Ryzen a I max 395 plus 00:05:15.440 --> 00:05:18.200 This is new it's a hex driver 00:05:18.880 --> 00:05:28.680 That whoa Whoa, whoa Phillips head whoa flat head. Yeah, I think we've got better screwdrivers at LTT Store calm 00:05:28.960 --> 00:05:32.640 Dude Strix Halo is so cool I just wish it wasn't so expensive 00:05:32.640 --> 00:05:39.240 And I also wish that one X player was using the newly announced SKUs that have lesser CPUs 00:05:39.320 --> 00:05:46.720 But still have the full-fat GPU, but unfortunately I have to assume that development was done on this unit before those were announced 00:05:50.880 --> 00:05:52.880 Here we go 00:05:55.200 --> 00:05:59.280 Not gonna lie I'm into it. Oh 00:06:00.280 --> 00:06:03.080 Okay, this is pretty clever 00:06:03.600 --> 00:06:10.920 So this is the air-cooled version which costs a little bit less because it doesn't include the water block, right? 00:06:11.120 --> 00:06:16.800 There's your Ryzen AI max down there pretty standard, you know handheld layout at this point 00:06:16.880 --> 00:06:19.380 Then you just take the top of 00:06:19.880 --> 00:06:22.200 that cold plate for the CPU and 00:06:22.920 --> 00:06:30.200 You just huck this copper plate on it This will allow you to assist the integrated air cooler by pulling heat 00:06:30.680 --> 00:06:35.300 Directly off of over top of the chip here. You know what this handheld needed more weight 00:06:37.360 --> 00:06:45.080 Apparently this thing's about 70 grams. So if you're not gonna use the external water cooler, I wouldn't opt for that version of it 00:06:49.240 --> 00:06:52.180 Okay, you know what that's not that bad 00:06:52.860 --> 00:06:59.100 One fan one piece of tape and I can get at a full 80 millimeter m.2. I 00:06:59.900 --> 00:07:09.780 I'm okay with it. I'm okay with it. That's not bad I think you could get a double-sided SSD in here, but you'd be putting more pressure on this ribbon cable than I would be comfortable with 00:07:09.780 --> 00:07:11.780 It's not the sort of thing that I would be 00:07:13.220 --> 00:07:15.900 Recommending even if maybe you could get away with it 00:07:16.460 --> 00:07:19.820 Let's turn it on after telling you about our sponsor 00:07:19.820 --> 00:07:26.020 Oh now seems like a good time to address that like the Win 5 there is an umbilical cord option 00:07:26.140 --> 00:07:31.300 You have to pay extra for it in this case, but it allows you to run the battery separately with just like a lead to it 00:07:31.300 --> 00:07:35.540 I Kind of thought that was silly back when I did my unboxing of the Win 5 00:07:35.660 --> 00:07:39.340 But when I was using it for a period of a couple months actually 00:07:39.340 --> 00:07:45.980 I found myself almost exclusively using it that way because it turns out that having all this weight hanging off your hands 00:07:46.740 --> 00:07:48.740 It's just it's not great 00:07:49.940 --> 00:07:55.220 This kickstand helps a fair bit. It would make me more likely to care about having the battery attached, but 00:07:57.980 --> 00:08:06.260 Wow is this over a kilo with the battery on it because it feels like it's over a kilo and also there's a little bit of play in 00:08:06.740 --> 00:08:08.740 this attachment 00:08:10.500 --> 00:08:15.460 Doesn't feel reassuring, you know Think what I would probably do is put like a 00:08:16.220 --> 00:08:20.700 Higher I see they've already done it, but I would put a bigger foam sticker here 00:08:20.700 --> 00:08:27.540 So you like really compress that so it doesn't move around. Oh, I haven't shown you guys the power brick yet 00:08:28.740 --> 00:08:31.720 Dude, this is the unboxing that never ends man 00:08:33.020 --> 00:08:36.180 Is That an XT60? 00:08:37.620 --> 00:08:43.020 Everyone knows I was kidding when I talked about using XT60s for PC power, right? 00:08:43.380 --> 00:08:47.340 You have got to be kidding me here 00:08:50.420 --> 00:08:52.420 One X 00:08:53.580 --> 00:09:00.580 One X player advertises up to 240 watts of charging off of this again brick and 00:09:03.860 --> 00:09:08.140 XT60 connector and Is this 00:09:08.180 --> 00:09:14.220 Is this only a three-foot cable? I mean, I guess being an XT60 you could kind of mod any cable you want 00:09:14.220 --> 00:09:20.780 But this is this is not a very good handheld experience ladies and gentlemen like look at this 00:09:20.780 --> 00:09:24.240 I have to get that all the way to the top of the device 00:09:25.740 --> 00:09:30.100 What the Sam heck were they thinking putting this short cable on it? 00:09:30.260 --> 00:09:32.780 They were thinking you put it to the frost bait first 00:09:33.820 --> 00:09:38.660 Does it matter which ones which they're not labeled. Okay, okay, so it's just one is just 00:09:38.900 --> 00:09:44.780 Passed through okay. This is also not great. This is an extremely short cable 00:09:44.980 --> 00:09:48.380 Okay, we'll get to the we'll get to the frost bay later first 00:09:48.380 --> 00:09:53.140 I want to see this thing in its maximum performance glory 00:09:53.540 --> 00:09:58.020 By the way, it's worth noting that while it supports 240 watt charging like 00:09:58.780 --> 00:10:04.860 Basically any device it only does that for a little while and it especially only does that for a little while before really 00:10:05.260 --> 00:10:08.580 settling down you know in 00:10:08.860 --> 00:10:13.220 theory a capacitive joystick is a really high quality way to 00:10:14.100 --> 00:10:21.940 build a joystick Unfortunately, this is about the cheapest feeling implementation that I've ever felt the responsiveness of it is great 00:10:22.340 --> 00:10:25.660 The feel is not I feel like something's wrong here 00:10:26.140 --> 00:10:30.300 Okay, let's press the 1x button. Ah, yes, we're at 20 watts 00:10:31.180 --> 00:10:33.180 Let's go to 80 shall we? 00:10:34.300 --> 00:10:36.300 Whoa, that's more like it 00:10:38.260 --> 00:10:43.260 Listen to those fans go buddy. This is 50% fan. Ah 00:10:44.500 --> 00:10:46.500 You can control the vibration motors 00:10:48.580 --> 00:10:53.220 Wow, this is a really nice little resolution tool 00:10:54.220 --> 00:10:59.900 1x players overlay has improved a lot since the last time I looked at it. This is 00:11:00.780 --> 00:11:04.060 insane Like sure, I'm only getting 00:11:04.620 --> 00:11:09.500 30 FPS, but guys, this is cyberpunk 2077 and 00:11:10.620 --> 00:11:17.740 Sure, okay, I'm using some fidelity FX upscaling, but I'm running up freaking like high 00:11:18.740 --> 00:11:25.860 Like here if we actually went to the steam deck preset, okay steam deck preset 720p like a steam deck 00:11:26.740 --> 00:11:31.300 Jeepers creepers 150 160 FPS 00:11:32.020 --> 00:11:36.260 This thing is an absolute monster. It's so loud 00:11:37.220 --> 00:11:41.660 but So is the win 5 give me a second I 00:11:42.300 --> 00:11:51.300 I Almost exclusively game on it using my AirPods so that I can tune out the fan noise quite blockable 00:11:52.220 --> 00:11:55.060 Quite blockable indeed. Okay, what about the speakers? 00:11:59.180 --> 00:12:01.420 Those are shockingly rich 00:12:02.300 --> 00:12:08.260 speakers It's kind of a shame that I'll never get to use them because the fans are so loud 00:12:08.740 --> 00:12:12.220 Okay, let's go to a power profile that I'd be more likely to actually use 00:12:13.980 --> 00:12:19.420 Now we're talking reasonable fan noise to the point where I can actually use the speakers 00:12:20.340 --> 00:12:25.620 still incredible performance at very usable image quality and 00:12:26.620 --> 00:12:31.660 If you're running at 45 watts, you'll actually get like a couple hours of battery life out of it 00:12:32.300 --> 00:12:37.940 or at least I Don't know it's complicated because unlike the win 5 00:12:38.380 --> 00:12:44.460 One X player has made the odd decision to limit the power to 20 watts for the last 00:12:45.020 --> 00:12:51.340 20% of your battery and there's no obvious way to override that that we've been able to find either way up until that time 00:12:51.340 --> 00:12:57.780 It'll be pretty solid. Let's try the water cooler. So I'm gonna assume this needs to be full of water first 00:12:57.780 --> 00:13:03.620 There's no real power switch on it. The frost bay doesn't have a conventional on off switch 00:13:04.420 --> 00:13:10.820 so So we need to go into the full one X player utility and 00:13:11.500 --> 00:13:15.420 Then we have to pair it via Bluetooth in summary 00:13:16.340 --> 00:13:22.740 Getting the water cooling system connected is not super intuitive. Okay connect. Hey, I 00:13:23.340 --> 00:13:26.340 Think we're there. We are connected now 00:13:27.020 --> 00:13:33.660 What did it? Oh, there it is. It just kicked in 120 watts. Let's go. Okay, so the cooling system 00:13:34.340 --> 00:13:40.100 Is in smart fan curve mode. We're getting 50 milliliters per minute 00:13:42.460 --> 00:13:51.900 Is anyone else seeing that number and going Yo, what that's like nothing. I'm pretty psyched right now though. I can't wait to try this 00:13:52.580 --> 00:13:55.700 You can't have the battery kickstand on at the same time as this 00:13:55.820 --> 00:14:00.540 But they do have like a cardboard eco stand that you can put it on with the 00:14:00.740 --> 00:14:07.700 Dock with that said the way this dock is configured with like no tether distance or anything 00:14:07.740 --> 00:14:10.700 It's pretty clear that it's a it's a desktop 00:14:11.020 --> 00:14:15.380 Dock like this is not meant for handheld use at all 00:14:15.740 --> 00:14:18.500 This thing is so insane 00:14:19.060 --> 00:14:23.860 We're closing in on 200 FPS late. Okay. Yeah, it's turned down pretty low. But watch this 00:14:24.180 --> 00:14:28.580 Okay, forget this steam deck nonsense now. We're gonna go ultra 00:14:28.820 --> 00:14:32.900 Yeah, sure. We'll use upscaling, but we're gonna use the native resolution of the panel this time 00:14:32.900 --> 00:14:38.060 So we'll upscale to that and we're getting a casual 80 plus FPS 00:14:38.500 --> 00:14:40.500 Holy crap 00:14:41.580 --> 00:14:45.940 Freakin Smooth and could I even run native? 00:14:46.460 --> 00:14:53.860 dude You could run native 1200p ultra on this thing. That is so sharp 00:14:53.860 --> 00:14:59.420 We're still getting like 70 plus FPS and the temps are fine 00:15:00.420 --> 00:15:02.540 not amazing all things considered I 00:15:03.500 --> 00:15:07.020 Would kind of think that the water cooling unit would be doing more man 00:15:07.020 --> 00:15:10.460 I mean, it's definitely carrying heat away. This tube is warm and 00:15:11.260 --> 00:15:19.580 This one is cool It it needs more water flow and I'd be down to like put a better pump in this thing get some real water flow going like this is 00:15:20.420 --> 00:15:22.420 This is so cool 00:15:23.860 --> 00:15:29.220 Pump is running at 50% look we can turn it up and the water cooler is disconnected again 00:15:29.220 --> 00:15:34.940 And I can't get it 220 watts, but you know what as I already said realistically 00:15:35.860 --> 00:15:40.020 the water cooler is not something that I expect pretty much anyone to 00:15:41.060 --> 00:15:45.420 Actually use with this thing and the good news is that it already has I 00:15:46.580 --> 00:15:50.860 Was gonna say class leading performance without the water cooler, but it just has 00:15:51.820 --> 00:16:00.300 Leading performance without the water cooler. It manages a slightly higher maximum TDP compared to the GPD win 5 and even at 75 watts 00:16:00.420 --> 00:16:06.700 Because of 1x players emphasis on GPU power versus CPU power in graphically intensive games 00:16:06.700 --> 00:16:13.060 You should expect a little bit more performance with that said the GPD win 5 did outperform 00:16:13.500 --> 00:16:20.420 The apex in for example rocket league at 1080p, which is a little bit more of a CPU bound scenario 00:16:20.620 --> 00:16:26.540 Bottom line you're getting other worldly performance in a handheld form factor with this thing like it's just mind-blowing 00:16:26.540 --> 00:16:33.760 I mean black myth that 720p was what like over a hundred FPS well over a hundred FPS at reasonable settings 00:16:34.500 --> 00:16:40.260 With all of that said as someone who has daily districts halo device in a handheld form factor 00:16:40.620 --> 00:16:50.220 I'd say unless you're plugged into the wall it's very unlikely that you're actually gonna be running it at maximum wattage and that's where 1x players solution for 00:16:50.420 --> 00:16:57.660 Their barrel charger really falls short for me. I'm not a big fan of that. I need a longer cable with that said 00:16:57.660 --> 00:17:02.520 I feel like they make up a lot of that ground in the superior ergonomics of the device 00:17:02.900 --> 00:17:09.780 Compared to the GPD win 5 not to mention the larger display. It has about the same peak brightness around 500 nits 00:17:09.780 --> 00:17:15.240 And it does 120 Hertz variable refresh rate. So there's no real compromises there. It's just a big 00:17:15.920 --> 00:17:20.480 Pretty bright beautiful display. We're gonna throw up some battery results here 00:17:20.480 --> 00:17:25.920 But there's a very important caveat and that is that as I mentioned before the apex 00:17:26.400 --> 00:17:31.000 Drops to 20 watts when it has 20% battery left. So realistically 00:17:31.000 --> 00:17:37.920 I'd expect real-world results that are a lot closer to what's listed in the GPD win 5 column because they are very similar devices 00:17:38.160 --> 00:17:41.120 Now the only question is if all this looked appealing 00:17:41.440 --> 00:17:48.320 What could it cost Michael? $10 for the base model with a Ryzen AI max 385. It's oh 00:17:49.600 --> 00:17:52.760 Then for the upgraded one with more RAM and a 395. It's oh 00:17:53.800 --> 00:17:55.800 Then if you want the water cooler, it's 00:17:57.160 --> 00:18:03.520 I'm just making noises because they keep changing the pricing. It's actually gone up since we started shooting this video 00:18:03.520 --> 00:18:06.480 So it's really cool though water cool 00:18:07.840 --> 00:18:11.120 Subscribe to ShortCircuit if you guys are looking for another video to watch 00:18:11.120 --> 00:18:13.640 Why not check out the unboxing of the GPD win 5?