{"video_id":"fp_S7uoAa6QLZ","title":"Livestream VOD – November 22, 2024 @ 16:41 – Google Has To Sell Chrome??? - WAN Show November 22, 2024","channel":"Linus Tech Tips","show":"Linus Tech Tips","published_at":"2024-11-22T19:31:00.025Z","duration_s":8589,"segments":[{"start_s":0.0,"end_s":11.48,"text":"hey morning everybody morning morning somewhere oh I guess I could change into","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":11.48,"end_s":25.04,"text":"that wait is that your circuitry I don't know really so it is not it is not you're","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":25.04,"end_s":29.34,"text":"really dedicating to that that pendant day is it good pen amulet what do they","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":29.34,"end_s":36.66,"text":"call it I don't know something something legendary or when I read it it sounded","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":36.66,"end_s":41.98,"text":"like a an RPG item more than we're putting a surprising amount of real 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I said same bad time it'll it'll be like the normal time not this time, okay","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0}],"full_text":"hey morning everybody morning morning somewhere oh I guess I could change into that wait is that your circuitry I don't know really so it is not it is not you're really dedicating to that that pendant day is it good pen amulet what do they call it I don't know something something legendary or when I read it it sounded like a an RPG item more than we're putting a surprising amount of real work into verifying it doesn't do anything yeah verified actually not gamer this is Luke's morning voice to what is different okay my laptop's on now all right okay oh yeah I guess it's scheduled right okay let me just make sure I have my Floatplane chat working and then I guess I'm good to go so so do you watch the fight last week if you can call it that I saw a little bits of it I didn't watch the whole thing I mean it wasn't very long did you watch the wait what wasn't it no it went full rounds didn't it well I mean yeah but they were two-minute rounds cuz they like looked at each other and there were eight rounds yeah so yeah we call it a show I think we should call it a show yeah yeah there's that clip that people have been sharing around of Tyson's majorly pulled punch I don't like a very clear shot and he's mid swinging and Jake like you can see him go like and pull back and then mid swing Tyson just goes yeah all right cancels it okay they've both been banned from boxing I don't believe you know only because like of mandatory fight rest times I think what like you're not allowed to fight immediately after oh okay yeah that's yeah whatever it unless I'm like mistaken I thought it was just a clickbait thing am I wrong I mean no one's like linking anything yeah they required time someone said yeah yeah so that's just that's just like actual works like daily males headline here is technically correct they have both been given suspensions from boxing it was controversial but those two things are not related yeah yeah yeah news is struggling all right let's let's do this thing we ready good morning everyone and welcome to the WAN Show we've got a great show lined up for you guys today what is this the DOJ will try to force Google to sell Chrome no not like like you have to pay for Chrome in order to use it like sell business unit this is freaking wild we could also talk about the fight last week or should we call it a show yeah I don't know we're not boxing commentators but like realistically that wasn't a boxing match so that's a good call I got them I won't give a probably not going to talk about that so hold on hold on let me find something else here I should probably expand on what we said last week or rather expand on why I wasn't able to say more last week about the hiatus I is that the term for multiple hiatus is hi to see whichever one it is Yvonne watched the segment and she was just like that sucked dude you didn't even like explain why you can't explain and I was like well I thought it was self-evident and she was like it wasn't and I was like okay thank you better half I will do better next time I do I understand why you thought that but I also understand why some people might not get it cool let's go what else we got today we need a puffery shirt the number of people that talk about puffery ever since that segment it's really it's really stayed around y'all don't seem to want actual tech tips yeah question mark no that that seems to be a thing that seems to be a thing we can talk about that also Microsoft ignite 2024 things you don't want plus fixing crowdstrike nice the show is brought to you by Notion Vessie server part deals not to me one and our laptop partner LG our rap partner D brand and of course our chair partner secret lab who sent over new chairs for us yeah they're just like the old chairs but wider and like soft yeah they have they have soft ARM rests yeah which we're both wearing long sleeves cuz it's like the heat just turned on this morning so it's not actually warm in here I was good I told me to wear this oh okay extremely comfy oh okay but yeah well whatever I'm cold right into our headline topic today the Department of Justice will try to force Google to sell Chrome ban default search deals and license data for 10 years also Chrome OS might become Android so they have they've submitted their recommended remedies to judge a meat meta who ruled that Google illegally maintains a monopoly on search back in August and these are the recommended remedies so selling their Chrome web browser at the DOJ views it as a key component of Google's search monopoly with approximately 65% browser share across all platforms with chromium based browsers accounting for nearly 80% of the market however I would I would push back a little bit a little bit on clumping other chromium based browsers in with the chrome monopoly really their fault well it is and it isn't the dominance of Chrome is what's making a chromium basis so important for maintaining compatibility with the rest of the web and even though Google does not single-handedly develop another chromium based browser they can certainly shove certain they can certainly shove certain ideas along and and and make them difficult to go against even though it is possible in some cases they can they can attempt to manifest their own optimal business environment oh I like that yeah yeah I like that that's good that's good so anyway I think that the numbers a little I'm just saying I think the numbers a little fuzzy yeah it's clearly not sure 65% but I also don't think it's 80% 80% no matter which one of them it is though let's be real that is a dominant position and it was it is one that Google has has painstakingly meticulously created and used to their advantage this is kind of wild the next recommendation is banning Google from entering into default search deals which amount to 26 billion dollars annually and might end up hurting Mozilla more than it does Google rudely yeah to be clear a lot of that is 26 billion is going to Apple not to Mozilla but man this one oh I have kind of I have kind of mixed feelings on on the one hand yeah these default search deals are a huge part of why we all tolerate Google search because it's just there when we open up our browser with that said if that works then more people would use Bing but yeah I mean I understand just still default in Windows and Bing is definitely still default an edge if the product was that bad I guess people would be willing to switch off of it or maybe that's different platform by platform I mean the whole switching to iOS experience has definitely has definitely opened my eyes to how intuitive doesn't mean intuitive it just means whatever arcane ridiculousness you've personally gotten used to right and that is true that's true across across multiple platforms I mean how is it intuitive to press control alt delete to access some kind of system menu it's not doing for a long time exactly so so to you specifically exactly so so depending on the platform you might find users more or less malleable and it's it's pretty well established that behavior across iOS and Android users is different for example I remember like years ago this used to get talked about a lot more and maybe it's because there was more transparency into the numbers I actually don't know why nobody talks about it anymore but I remember it would it would make headlines sort of like cyclically that Apple users spend way more money yeah on the app store they used to be super common to be talked about I think that was often when there was notable or more notable I would say differences between the apps I remember people used to be really frustrated because Android users had lower image quality on Instagram back in the day yeah yeah that was little things like that were were much more discernible it was you generally had a worse experience on Android because Android users were seen as like cheap and not worth focusing on development yeah and and and and they were yeah to be honest so like yeah like very measurably if you don't remember this it was like a huge topic and like a like a many times multiplier it wasn't like the average Android user spends 9% less on apps compared to the average Apple user and this was more of a thing back I would imagine more of a thing back when like pretty much every app was like kind of useless unless you spent like two or three dollars like that was what a that was what a paid app was back in the day it wasn't so much subscription based services in 2024 the average iPhone user spends $12.77 per app by comparison the average Android user spends $6.19 so it's still double still double wow okay as far as my understanding goes it was like a much bigger gap in the past but I'm not I don't know how to percent right now I don't know if what Parkour is saying here is true but if it it funny if true a snapchat on Android was apparently just a screenshot of the camera compared to iOS directly using the camera it doesn't really it wouldn't really it wouldn't really surprise me that much it works I mean yeah and do you really need do you really need that kind of fidelity in a pick I mean I'm just asking questions I'm just asking questions you know if you if you have lower fidelity you might gain a pixel here there yeah I mean it's not the whole point of snapchat low fidelity get it different kinds of fidelity see I got it I'm actually I'm actually I'm actually what's what's what's our nuts Ashley Madison just released their just released released their most non monogamous cities in Canada list oh no yeah Vancouver really Vancouver's very low non monogamy so I mean to be clear I'm not saying that that's that's a goal I'm just there's there's all kinds of well there's like you know ethical non monogamy but isn't that site specifically I'm not judging you if you're like for cheating though well there's a big difference I mean is any site for anything really Luke I mean it's Floatplane for early access to anymore although very occasionally very occasionally there are things but I was actually hinting at something but I yeah look what I found oh wow I didn't find it I'm gonna put it in my luggage and then I found it that way but I found a relic wow that is not even that many people in the audience are even gonna know what that's a name I've not heard in a long time a long time I pulled that on my luggage was like what what is this yeah so apparently I lost a shirt but I still have the tuc nice yeah I I'm pretty sure I still have the shirt kicking around somewhere yeah but it's not it's not my go-to pajama shirt anymore it was for a long time now it's my gbo shirt yeah yeah another another name that hasn't stood the test of time what on earth were we supposed to be talking about oh right Google they also are recommending that Google be required to license its search index data to competitors for 10 years so this is the kind of like whoa not slap on the wrist but actual like no you guys need to not behave like this again and you guys need to take active steps to prop up your competitors to make up for the anti-competitive practices that you guys have engaged in and I gotta tell you already slightly we're not even all the way through the list here already I'm looking at this going I I have no idea what's gonna happen in January because on the one hand I think we've I think we've both been pretty happy to see the US actually finally engage in oh dude Lena Khan any antitrust investigations and remediation but I I have no idea whether that will or won't continue with the next administration because I think that everyone on both sides of the political spectrum can agree that it is likely to be unpredictable yeah I I know a pretty strong theory around this whole like you're gonna have to sell Chrome thing is that Google's probable defense is going to be to delay as much as possible and try again with the new administration the thing with the new administration though is I don't think they have any particular love for Google the in general general reply to that theory is that big tech right now is kind of at odds with both sides which is kind of a funny thing because a lot of the a lot of the transgressions that both sides are kind of mad at big tech about are are very different from each other like they're sort of mad for completely different reasons yeah and it's hard to feel bad for you know the tech billionaires that have kind of you know sold us up the river over and over and over again over the last couple of decades but I do kind of feel like at this point now that everything's so far gone that they just are monopolies whether they you know kind of like it or not and to be clear you do not have to be the mono in monopoly is not actually like strictly speaking necessary right you can just be in a dominant abusively dominant position you don't actually just have to be a monopoly to follow foul of antitrust regulations if you completely control everything yes or don't even close to it or or or collude with a handful of other parties to control things yeah veritasium has an amazing video on it so there are some very very there there are some very non monopolist cities in Canada sorry wait what are we talking about the point is just that everyone's kind of mad at them and looking for an excuse to kind of punish them but the remediation that another administration might ask for might be really different yes I guess is is what I would worry about so maybe roll the dice again kind of thinking this is probably one of the worst they could have got and then hoping for better I don't know yeah I do think the just jumping back to it a little bit because I saw some comments about this in the flow plane chat when we were talking about it but the 26 billion in search deals hurting you know it's gonna hurt Apple but not really Apple will be fine yeah exactly it's really like the the big damage that we're probably gonna feel is to Mozilla they're declining in usership effectively constantly oh thanks Dan I wasn't actually I think okay I want to clarify something really quick that's not my gesture for fill my water I was checking if there was water in it that the optics of that were not great that's I didn't even notice that's pretty funny but but yeah I so like honestly this shake up okay significantly less cash in the bank I suspect it might immediately hurt Mozilla in the ability to employ people department things like that as far as my understanding goes they actually had layoffs recently I suspect that may continue if this happens but a significant shake up in the browser market could result in a user base increase an actual one we can help that could result in Firefox actually having long legs instead of this just constant decline to eventual irrelevance which they've been kind of on the path of I enjoy Firefox I use Firefox daily in my personal life Firefox has been my mobile browser actually the entire time I've ever had an Android phone since the very beginning of having an Android phone it's gonna be so much less lucrative for Firefox to even have users if they aren't benefiting from that Google default search deal yeah you know Bing could swoop in it's not a ban of there being default search deals it's just a ban of there being you know Google once it reduces the competition yeah who's the competition why would Microsoft have to pay a ton of money for it and and if I'm Microsoft and I'm watching this go down for Google I'm like I don't know if I want to do that yeah yeah I mean that's like that's how this is supposed to work right like that's these remedies are not supposed to be oh here's a one billion dollar fine like cost of doing business they're supposed to be like oh crap everyone else looking at this going holy crap we really should not do that we should not do that people are talking about like duck duck go the issue is that duck duck go doesn't have any money like they have money but they don't have like billions of dollars a year to use our search engine money otherwise they would just be doing it already I'll talk I'll talk I'm guessing in full plain chat said since 2019 Mozilla has lost 30 million monthly average users yikes yeah so they've been on a just they've lost almost an entire Canada of users eventually they're not going to have anything to take this money from anyways right like there will be nothing for Google to have bought from them so like I don't know I I'm I'm hoping that a re-roll of the dice a shake-up something like that might give them a chance it's going to hurt a lot in the short term because that money is just going to disappear yeah but hold I don't know hopefully something can happen out of this that that works out I think the real question Luke is what have you been doing to help Mozilla it's not like there aren't things you could do I using it personally it's not enough we put I mean why don't you make it why don't we put on the lab site that it works best in Firefox why don't you make it so that flow plane can only be accessed with Firefox since they're all using Firefox anyway that is a problem that is a good call we probably should have done that yeah I can I can look towards doing that in the future do you have your phone in your pocket is it me I think it's this iPhone I think the is a lot worse in terms of interference because I've kept my phone over there for since before you brought the I wasn't causing an issue unless it got damaged and now for those missing context we've done some polls and the Floatplane the full plane audience swears up and down that they are using Firefox but we have actual like site access yeah statistics and they don't yeah people have pointed out that you can like spoof it so that it reports that you're using Chrome for like weird compatibility recent things I sincerely doubt that that percentage of people are spoofing it sincerely definitely not a thing all right yeah more remediations not selling Android but restricting it from favoring Google search now because this is focused on search and not you know web mail or web documents or whatever the case may be it sounds like they could still have default Google apps but I do wonder if this if this all goes through this all went through if Google would look at a lot of their current practices and go hey how do we avoid any more of this restricting Android from favoring Google search that is like what would that look like so instead of that default Google search bar like I would be prompted when I suspect on phone setup you or maybe with an update now one time and then set up in the future you would be prompted to choose your default search and there would probably be like you know you're and it would have to be randomized five and then other and it would probably yeah the list would probably have to be randomized wow and it would involve undoing Google's two billion dollar investment in AI startup and thropic that would be a really big bummer for anthropic wait really why no no no like what I'm saying not that it would be a I understand why I'd be a big bummer for them I'm wondering why they have to do this I I don't know a ton about anthropic and that and that investment but what I would guess is that anthropic is super super focused on search but I'm just guessing I'm completely guessing Google has responded calling the DOJ's proposal staggering wildly overbroad and part of a radical interventionist agenda that would harm Americans and break a range of Google products in an example of how excruciatingly horrible this would be Google said that the proposal and this is a quote would literally require us to install not one but two separate choice screens before you could access Google search on a pixel phone you bought and the design of these choice screens would have to be approved by the technical committee and that's just a small part of it we wish we were making this up is that an actual quote that's from Google's blog are they for real right now this is oh my goodness guys yeah a device set up wizard is a thing which you already have by the way this is actually very interesting because this is such an early wancho we have a bunch of EU viewers and apparently this is like already a thing for them that makes sense Drek Korrex said in the EU you already get to choose the search engine on Android technically they said as far as I know at the end of that this is hilarious yeah people are saying yes we have that already yeah so like what do you even mean you already did it for them and it's worth noting that in the EU Android actually maintains better market share than it does in the US so clearly clearly that ain't the variable that is affecting that so annoying what an annoying thing to say I hope they lose just because of that can you can you imagine sitting at Google and thinking that typing that is a good idea like how did that at a certain point you wonder if like the person who wrote it is like yeah let's let's torpedo ourselves a little bit because like that's the worst I don't know we wish we were making this up are you kidding me hold on you know what no my my source thing oh my god because that is that poking fun at yourself this is literally literally at blog I didn't even believe it like I trust I trust Riley okay and and he had the citation in there so I saw the citation I went I don't need to click through to this but I was like no no the people deserve for me to actually click through to the Google blog yeah and see that this is literally we wish we were making this up I wish I was making this up we already did this in the EU so really we don't have to do any of this at all but we wish we were making this up I I've had multiple conversations with multiple people good people strong people the best people tear streaming down their eyes the window list of people about the like the slow death of just Google in general like they suck like if we're if we're looking at the landscape of like modern you know web Silicon Valley style companies what have they done in the last long time other than just like kill stuff and not innovate let me think what have they done okay does it count as a thing they've done if they ultimately killed it no okay that doesn't count no okay hold on thinking Google fiber well wait no hold on and that's old wait no okay hold on there's got to be something apparently the EU has had the choice screen on Android since 2019 actually okay YouTube YouTube has done some pretty cool stuff YouTube is the only thing I've been able to think of that has had positive innovation and it has also had really junky negative innovation yes this is true this is true I would say yeah I was gonna say that finding stuff to buy through Google and if we're talking about monopolies is better like like the interface is better but all the sponsored stuff that gunks up the results is not better so I take that one back Android is better than ever but like nothing crazy has changed in like it's better than ever though it's like sure well I'm looking to find stuff you don't get to be like fair yeah fair enough fair enough okay Google workspace has stood still for a super long time they don't even have their own realistic chat I know they have chats which they swear to me that they use internally and I don't believe it oh oh Google Maps Google maybe they do but they also use other things I bet maybe other people have had access to this for a long time but my Android Auto interface for Google Maps finally allows me to report problems like if I see police I can report it in Google Maps I mean they acquired ways what 10 years ago so it's it's understandable it took them a little while to port that functionality over someone says they've had that a map for a long time I don't man it it did not show up into my interface until like a couple weeks ago which was the reason that I exclusively use ways even though Waze's search is terrible like my own badminton center doesn't show up in Waze search and I don't I don't I don't know why because it's on Google Maps like you they're literally owned by the same company I thought that's the point of being a monopoly like the actual point but anyway on basically everything they've stood still on on they have some people the company that are obviously still doing good work like they have their their AI researchers wrote the white paper on like what is breaking the world right now but then they have like one of the worst ones in Gemini because they didn't capitalize on it because they don't seem to be able to do anything and the reason why I got onto this topic is because of the way we wish we were making this up almost feels like they're they're pointing at themselves because the and the design of those choice screens would have to be approved by the technical committee that part is like okay yeah because we can't trust you to do it on your own based on your own website and documentation you already did it so like what are you talking about yeah that looks fine yeah it does it's completely fine and they literally already did it yeah that looks like let's just do that what are you talking about make things again like Google was such a sick company I really liked Google I really like Google workspace I can't tell what's different in Google workspace I can tell you cool stuff I can tell you cool stuff they've done okay they have those like hardware decoding cards for video hardware video decoding cards those are cool I don't like a while ago but they like are like working on them and stuff yeah so they they that's not really for users though we get the results of it yeah we look I I I have said before and I maintain that YouTube is one of the wonders of the world it is like I think if we when we if we didn't have YouTube anymore we would look back on the time that we would have that we had YouTube and we would go the internet would be different good Lord like the the the knowledge the library sharing of human experience I really do feel like it would be a loss yeah maybe not quite on that level because of how little sort of written knowledge there was in the world at that time right but I think that given even more time and given even more more build-up of collective knowledge I think we're in there but I think you could make the argument I just didn't want to make such a strong statement but no I think I think it would be I think it would be like that losing something of that magnitude at this time one of the big things with YouTube is when you'll you'll find videos on there that are like from 13 years ago and it's it's like potato you know but it's it's when people were archiving footage from like pre-internet era so it's not only is it from 13 years ago it's actually from way before that yep and there's literally nowhere else to access it because on YouTube any yahoo it's kind of a joke because it's pretty good yeah I can upload anything they want and it just is there and it's just documented that is that is I'm not gonna call it a public service because they're clearly a for profit company and they and they profit from it with your data and your attention to ads and your premium subscriptions and all of those things but it to lose it would be catastrophic I think at this point yeah but yeah they I when's the last time they launched a Gmail you know like when they launched Gmail they launched it on April Fool's almost as like a joke and then just took over the world like they don't do stuff like that anymore Google workspace again hasn't moved at all Gemini I'd say yeah someone's phone is oh Gemini I say Docs is notably behind it's actually better than it used to be I as someone who uses it every day it's a lot better than it was five years ago I'll tell you that it's definitely better what's changed in the last five years specifically I don't know but just it's the interface is just always like getting a little better it's always getting a little better there's still things that are probably one of those things where I can't imagine it but if I saw a version for five years ago it's probably changed subtly over time still things that are super obnoxious like once a document is is pressing return is two spaces it's like damn near impossible to get it to stop doing that for some reason like you can go in you can tell it single spacing you can tell it whatever you want but if you like paste something in that has that inherent formatting in it already for some reason it just like breaks it forever as far as I can tell them I'm sure there is a way around it but it is not intuitive to a word user a long time word user someone in full-point chat Tim said come on you know more than anyone that small back-end changes are so huge and you don't realize them unless you look at them side-by-side yeah I know that what I what I but this is from a consumer standpoint yeah give me something as a consumer back-end changes smooth out your infrastructure and make managing it easier and they might even improve responsiveness here and there but for the most part every time that I've seen Google tell me that a back-end change is supposed to make my user experience better it has made it literally worse I'm sure it happens a bunch of times without them really communicating to you this is totally a thing it's it's super annoying beyond being on a team when you have to work on stuff that user the most egregious example of this is the analytics dashboard which used to be extremely snappy except for the occasional time that it wasn't and now okay of course it's behaving well right now yeah now it is for the most part a piece of garbage it's actually doing really well right now but it had it I I could talk for a long time about how much I hate the new analytics dashboard and it's not even new it's like seven years old at this point but I I can't stand it I can't think of anything new that I use for from from Google and most of the old things that I use from Google are becoming harder and harder to justify over time due to price increases from you know getting my YouTube music from my premium subscription that just went up by 60% because they're trying to shoehorn in AI features that are really expensive dude so they're cranking the price up just give me Google play music back yeah I was actually better like the thing that I did the one feature I cared about the reason that I spent a bunch of money on Sonos speakers and the reason that I got a Google play music subscription was because from my music app I could just click cast like like just the cast button you know like like the Chromecast cast button I could just click the cast button and then pick my speakers and the integration was perfect and flawless and I never had to touch that piece of Sonos app I like and now that it's like so bad that like their CEO had to apologize I feel so validated in that sort of that decision I made to completely avoid it also oh my god I don't know when this happened but again back to Android Auto for a second here I can't search in my in my YouTube music app like I have to like I can voice search not in the app like I can be like I don't know play Justin Bieber or whatever right like I can do that but if I'm if I'm like if I'm like using the interface there's no search and the browse is super hamstrung and what's what's really wild is there's no start radio button in it anymore and that is it literally like how I use my music app is like I find a song that I'm kind of in the mood for and then I click start radio yeah because I just want to I kind of want to listen to stuff like that type of song yeah and that that start radio button is no longer there in the player for me and I see a lot of people when I was talking about maps saying like oh yeah mine has this mine has that it's all over the place though the fact that you I'm not saying you don't have it and you guys might even have a start radio button I have no idea but I don't and it is very annoying very annoying okay no one is actually yeah no one's actually disagreeing with this one so I guess yeah it's apparently still still bad but yeah just just get bury the hatchet with Sonos and just make it work again please I don't know I just I've heard a lot of stuff about how and who knows what's true and what isn't true but I've heard a lot of stuff about how things work inside of Google apparently the best way to get promoted was for a long time was to like champion a project to launch yeah then you would just get promoted after it launched so it that project would like lose its leader stagnate and then get closed down so it was just this like farm for junk for a long time so for at the beginning they were making new good things rapidly and then they saw new good things coming out rapidly is a good thing for the business so let's incentivize that promote people that do that but then the people inside that just wanted promotions and money were abandoning all their projects so they were making new good things and getting rid of them rapidly for many many years and then now they just don't seem to really do anything cubes the gamer has one RCS yeah and that wasn't just a matter of like developing it that was that was like launching and maintaining for an extended period of time an extremely ultimately effective campaign to get attention from regulators I was saying a big part of the lobbying almost more than anything else I think RCS is a good example it's crazy to me that there is this few examples for a company of 200,000 people this is true this is fair Google meet is pretty good these days I'm just like I'm barely matters when people are actively moving away from Google workspace because if you want to be on workspace and you want an actually good chat client you're using workspace in slack and workspace in slack as a combination is quite expensive in my opinion slack is significantly better than teams workspace itself though has stagnated so hard that office 365 seems to have mostly caught up to them yeah if not at parody yeah biggest problem with office 365 is that teams is just such a dumpster fire it's better than it used to be I still so bad I have I have messages to you can't to group chat not existed before yeah I know why well if you attach something to a chat message you have to wait for it to upload before you click send yeah why in slack if I attach something and click send it just sends once it attaches yeah duh like there's there's so many things that are just holy crap if you're in a big group chat it highlights the box for whoever's talking except for you so you can't tell if your mic's working why just why there's so much stuff that's just so confusing we need to get a couch on the wanshow set so he can but so he can lie on the couch and teams but teams therapy teams is going to keep improving because something that Microsoft is quite good at is this just never-ending March yep they just keep moving usually a little bit slower yeah and sometimes backwards but they just keep moving so eventually teams will be good enough you know there's only so much you can do with the chat client you're seeing the type of innovation that slack has been bringing lately it's like I think we're at feature parody with MSN messenger now so the the only way to go is upward from here we're getting there but it's just it's gonna be really hard for IT teams to justify the cost of having an expensive Google workspace subscription especially when they're trying to not give you discounts anymore unless you also buy Gemini which nobody wants and then also a very premium very expensive Slack subscription when you could get all of that under a 365 license or a lark license or something like that at a massively decreased price with more features VDK a makes a very important point here until we have a nudge feature parody with MSN messenger will not have been achieved you are you are right yeah thank you for that and I'm sorry I have misspoke and I have besmirched the good name of MSN messenger and I will not do it again I miss miss I will not do it again okay what else we got here Google claims the DOJ should be focusing on revising search distribution agreements instead okay this is interesting Google isn't the only one who thinks this is a bad idea some analysts worry about its feasibility and unintended consequences for example it could potentially harm schools that use Chromebooks and disrupt the browser market which relies heavily on Google's open source Chromium project those are both good things some analysts realize that something might happen if this happens and like this is one of those things where it feels a little bit like the housing bubble in Vancouver where the my backyard the bigger the bubble gets the more hand-wringing there is over doing anything about this because of the economic harm and it's like right you hand-ring the harder the economic harm gets but like if we done everything properly we wouldn't be here in the first place and the further we allow it to expand the bigger the explosion when it pops yeah like yes there's gonna be collateral damage if all of this goes through there will absolutely be unintended consequences for but the longer we wait the worse it gets the more the more atrophied every other potential competitor will become because of Google's dominant position why you shouldn't allow this to happen in the first place ideally yeah speaking of the Vancouver housing bubble it's it's kind of starting to look a little shaky it's looking a little a little sad you know it's it's making a noise like sales are erupting though yeah sales are sales are going up which will maybe prop things up a little bit but also interest rates apparently apparently the Trudeau government is doing like like a buy your vote program oh yeah you saw that too I'm happy you had the exact same reaction I did and I saw elections coming soon what if we what if we lower taxes and give you money how about that what if we got rid of first past the post you ever think of that mr. JT yeah that thing you said you'd do yeah remember did you ever think of that because I'll tell you what I'll make you a deal mr. Trudeau right now if you're watching this I will wholeheartedly emphatically endorse you for the next election if you get first past the post gotten rid of if you do that thing you said you're gonna before the election you follow through on that first term election promise I will I will I will say hey for all of his other warts at least the ones that I can see and the ones I can't see don't show me your warts hey he's got that cool fall down the stairs trick and he got rid of first past the post that's enough for me all right because we need election reform yes we do we need it desperately so I'm there you go I'm in that's all you got to do what is first past the post I would actually recommend that you watch a CGP gray video on that but effectively with first past the post you are going to end up being forced into what is effectively a two-party system yes if you don't have first past the post you then have ranked choice ideally so you rank your choices and if one of your parties that you voted for as your first choice is clearly definitely going to lose they just dump that and your vote goes towards the second choice and so on and so forth until there's a winner it also it also makes it so that like let's say you had a super polarized electorate hypothetical scenario if if you had if you had your your rank chose rank choice voting card and it had like the the the super right-wing party here or you had a super right-wing party kind of a centrist party and a super left-wing party if you were to say well okay I am very aligned with the right-wing party and very misaligned with the left-wing party but I guess these center guys would kind of be okay and if everybody basically did that but like flip-flopped that center party would actually have some representation in the formed government yeah because if everyone kind of agreed that these guys are okay even though one of the other two hyper polarized parties was their first choice those those centrist sort of mindsets would be much more representative is pretty much what it would come down to first pass the post drives people to extremes because it ends up making in my opinion most people vote on an anything but them type basis instead of for what they actually want and ranked choice voting allows you to vote for what you actually want which is like enormously massive difference or or or more like it allows you to it allows you to specify what would be uncompletely unacceptable and what would be more acceptable and what would be preferred and then you can you can account for that it often results in something that's a little bit more average not necessarily the best or better but it'll it'll help lean towards something that's a little bit more average instead of more extreme I don't think there's any like voting system that involves everyone and is perfect I don't think there's any voting system that's perfect really no but first pass the post is like definitely one of the worst yes there are worse ones yeah but but it's one of the worst but first pass the post is really good for the incumbent it's really good for those parties that are that currently hold all the power so that's why it's really hard to get any kind of reform passed because they are highly disincentivized to do it it's really it's really frustrating why is it called first pass the post as a shortcut it's called first pass the post because whoever passes the requisite number of votes to win that race just takes all the marbles instead of accounting for for anything else digital be 11 says Veritasium has a good video on voting systems and that makes perfect sense I'm sure Derek does so why don't you guys go check that out yeah moving on did we finish the Google topic um discussion question blog post multi-cube and social thing Google has told Android authority that Google's multi-year plan to migrate from OS fully over to Android which lines up with a Google blog post from June 2024 swapping parts of Chroma yeah I think we're I think we're pretty much done I think we've talked about this enough okay so what do you want us to do Dan announcements oh you want us to do announcements oh good lord there's a handful of announcements today okay from Tuesday November 26th to Monday December 2nd we will be running some incredible deals on some of our most popular products at LTT Store but what we're really excited for are these bundles that we're putting together with the help of some of our partners if you've already seen our Black Friday Cyber Monday email sign up page then there's something new on it make sure you sign up so you don't miss out on the deals also Floatplane subscribers oh this is is this because of like the new like better integration between Floatplane and LTT Store like what is this quite similar to what we had before it's just a different way of using it oh okay Floatplane subscribers we'll be getting one day of early access on Monday November 25th let's go now my understanding is that early access is to the week long deals but it is possible that there are messages on my phone that will further clarify what is going on okay what no I do not have any further messages on my phone so I think that would be the week long deals I don't think that that will necessarily include some of the very limited quantity flash deals but I do not know for sure the way to know for sure is to be signed up for the newsletter so that is at LMG.GG slash BFCM Dan do you want to throw that in all the chats to make sure that everybody gets that can do now it's time for us to play a game we're sorry we're playing some people are saying that they don't see the email sign up form it's probably because you have something blocking it nice that makes sense modern internet is a thing okay Luke let's see if you can guess what these items are sorry I don't have an item here Dan do you know anything about this is it these what are these no I've been wondering about what everything on the day there oh dance like these items are what items um but I think you had a good feeling about the item in the middle of last week I don't know what the items are is it in this I think you had a good feeling what they were the bag I guess so Riley had mentioned this I'm I'm so sorry Riley okay cool why don't we come back to this guessing game plan for the products on set which will be I don't know here anyway so the early access thing subscribe at LMG.gg slash fp black friday to subscribe to Floatplane people are saying it's the bundles at the bottom of the black Friday page oh the question mark things oh I was also guess what they are thank you audience okay there we go the big freaking bundles okay how specific am I supposed to get I think you're supposed to get very specific how the heck you really peek at you guess that can you just say ditto for product among I don't know the the first one based on the what looks like the wrist rest attachment and the fact that it doesn't have no you're supposed to guess the middle one the middle one that's a stream deck okay it's apparently in the human organ transplant bag that is on the set whoops that's my thing why Luke I don't know what's going on right now any more than you do sure yeah cool oh it's not it's a wave XLR it's from the same brand oh wow you got it wrong I'm sure they use the same housing wow Luke you're zero for one wait I don't think I'm gonna get any of these then check it wait what no hold on a second what what's going on what I don't think that's right because the doc says the doc says Elgato stream deck mark 2 is supposed to be in the organ transplant bag what is happening right now you can't do this any more okay from the shadow you literally can't tell the difference between the two okay I have one on my desk it looks like what is the silhouette on the right it's a keyboard mon I don't know I'm my my guess on the right Luke that's the left headphone mon these look like Sennheiser's they look like Jamaican headphones Pokemon sure who's that Pokemon yeah sure yeah anyways do any Pokemon have mon at the end of the game Squirtle mon anyways they look like smoke mon that's a good reference the cucumber song thing about how it's good for you or whatever yeah yeah I don't know why I remember that they look like they look like a sanitizer headphones I'm guessing based on the band that they're like all right check under your table right now it was wrong last time I don't know dude I don't know they're not 600s they're HD 560 open back headphones nice both of these items are gonna be included in bundles that are on sale throughout the entire event or until we run out which is probably more likely but there's a third item on the left good gravy this is taking forever Corsair K65 Corsair K65 did you look at the dock no okay it looks like it has a tent it doesn't look like the LTT backpack that is here between us Luke wow nope it's the K70 K70 core TKL with Corsair I thought it said milks and I was like really MLX red smooth linear switches a 120 dollar keyboard that will be included in a bundle at no extra cost along with one more thing but this bundle is going to be dropping on a random day throughout the week so I'd really recommend you sign up for email notifications at LMG GT slash BFCM to have the best chance at securing one so I was five switches off yeah yeah good right brand though you can kind of tell from the silhouette that's a Corsair keyboard yeah okay so we made our way through that eventually yeah also for those for the announcement left hand for the announcement right hand okay so Linus camp but hold on I'm gonna figure this our collaborative wrist rest with Delta hub is back in stock and this time the left hand variants are available too quickly during the first run and this time you can get early access to the Black Friday sale you can get 15% off by going through our link in the video description and finally oh this is an announcement but it's nothing to do with the store OVH Cloud Summit 2024 why is it that Luke has a go bag with him right now not because the world has ended yet but coming up on November 28th Luke will be live in excuse me live apparee hosting this year's OVH Cloud Summit live event yes there will be great discussions around cloud computing AI machine learning and more and it'll be hosted on their twitch and X links which we will have in the video description where you guys can find out more that is actually super cool I said 15% 15 should genuinely that should be pretty fun I've seen the lineup of people that I'll be interviewing I'm actually genuinely so are you like a media personality again like what what do you even I guess who who are you I don't know what exactly is it that you do not sure to be honest okay stuff yeah ever comes up prominent guy they should just ask for that to be your little like tag that thing yeah you're like you're a renaissance man podcaster development team lead lab thing yeah bird enthusiast I don't know there's all there's all kinds of like infrastructure enjoyer historically great lover chicken specifically you love chicken yes he just really loves it chicken's very effective that's what he loves about it yeah it's the most effective bird yep 100% hit rate on chicken why the chicken crossed the road to get away from Luke you have no idea how many chickens have sacrificed themselves for my mediocre physique that's a stolen joke but anyways I think it's actually gonna be really fun I'm excited for that okay tune in cool what what else are we even what are we supposed to be talking about today Dan can you please get this show back on the rails I've been trying are you still are you done with the announcement I don't know am I I'll read the doc for you then let's see yeah looks about right then let's do some merch message okay sure merch messages so you head on the store you add something to your car to box pops up you leave a merch message we think it's better than super chats or twitch bits because hey if we get to your message great or Dan can pop it up down here or reply to it or forward it to someone internally to get you an answer well you know we're gonna do our best to acknowledge your message but if we don't then hey well there's always you know getting some high quality merchandise in the mail yeah all right cool so anyway merch messages hit me show us how it works Dan sure let's see your first is from Zachary how much is Google to blame for people getting scammed Facebook and Instagram don't have customer support but if you Google it a bunch of scam results appear should customer support be mandatory so I think there's a more of an issue with like Facebook not having customer support incredible amount of free products that would instantly cease to exist oh man yeah so okay so basically what you're saying is that Google is returning search results that are invalid and that are scams when people are trying to contact Facebook and Instagram support okay so so step number one is yes a customer or help option of some sort should absolutely be mandatory for any business and especially for someone that operates on the order that Facebook does like if we can afford to have customer support Facebook can afford to have customer support so any free service has to have customer support well dude nothing's free it's not free so there's that Facebook you're absolutely paying for you pay in your data and if it wasn't profitable they wouldn't be doing it if that became a lot genuinely a lot of services would instantly shut down if they had to have customer support yeah well hold on a second because I'm not saying every service like if there's some some like back-end project or something that we have implementation for on our website or something like that I think if you are consumer facing maybe maybe I should call it consumer support then if you are end user facing give me an example of someone who shouldn't have to have end user support for their product straw poll straw poll is straw poll even a company I don't know and like realistically pull that off top man okay hold on a second you do they have support watch them have support hold on a second what the what the devil is contact them we have pricing type form and why do they have straw pool straw straw straw straw easiest pull creator ever that only okay well apparently there's competition in the create a quick create a quick pull space also hold on a second they have support they totally have support just confirmed it online contact us support email so they have a they have a pricing structure now though so I did I wasn't aware try again sir I don't know give me an example something that shouldn't have support everything should have support because how else are you gonna get customer feedback literally if we didn't have LTT Store support how would we ever improve yeah but that's a store that's like a very different situation okay fine any if we didn't have support how would we improve Floatplane is a paid to access service everything is paid though everything's paid you pay with your attention looking at ads you pay with your personal information you pay with your credit card you pay for everything everything's paid so I not there's no free lunch yeah I can't think of any examples right now small Linux distros Linux support for Linux distros I think there are some like support forums with that count I think that I'm count DAC overflow um you know what no I well see here's my problem because I think in the case of something like a like a Linux distro I actually would say that yeah I think that I think that counts I think that's valid right if it's a community created community supported products then I think it can be yeah then it can be community supported community created can be community supported but the fact that Microsoft for example has that I forget what it's called like Microsoft answers or like what's it called give me a second I'll get there so the fact that Microsoft relies on community contributors to answer supporting queries for freaking Windows yes ridiculous is actually comical and actually very annoying to be honest like actually comical because it basically just gives them a shield to put in front of themselves to not have to fix things that are problems if they were if they were actually accountable if they had to pay if they had to pay billable hours to employees or contractors to sit and explain to people why freakin search doesn't work if that was actually on their books we might get a different response from them about it maybe they might actually fix it or it would just be canned responses because eventually eventually like someone would look at it and go hmm it might actually be cheaper to just develop a fix to this they would just script a canned response everybody and not actually turn it AI but yeah what about this what about it that's a that's a forum where support you hold on no no no we have we have we have you can contact an admin or moderator we literally have that I'm gonna find it I'm gonna find it smart guy it's not official support though so well hold on staff okay line is tech and I'm not logged in but you can literally send me a message but that's not support no it's not but hold on hold on hold on okay by the way don't bother because I don't reply to them anymore but um no no I'm pretty sure I'm pretty sure there's a I'm pretty sure there's stuff hold on I'm gonna find it hasn't found it yet forum support we'll find it rich there we go right there we totally have support now I knew we had support smart guy we a hundred percent you know why we have that support though because you should have support no for a GDPR forget me requests sort of actually but it's because we we did sales through the forum okay but we would need it anyway and we would totally have it anyway no I I'm not you know what I'm gonna die on this hill every service that is customer facing consumer facing and anyone who pays you in any way whether it's with their blood or their look at all the DNA friggin collection companies man 23 amie's implosion is terrifying if you're not terrified of that you should be terrified of that even if you never sent your genetic information to them if anyone even kind of related to you did you could be like that whole thing sucks and I'm super angry about it still I'm probably screwed and just don't know you're actually screwed and do know yeah what was I gonna say would you would you accept some form of threshold of like revenue for the company or something like that like there's a lot of laws like flow planes protected by I don't know out of these where if you're if you're below a certain amount of revenue certain laws don't take place yet I think as long as we also account for well we have like very little revenue but we do have a casual like nine billion dollars in seed funding like I think I think basically once once a certain amount of money is flowing in some way I'm done with that you should support the product so once you either have a certain amount of revenue or have raised a certain amount of dollars I'd be completely fine with that I just think I think this has there's a lot of these types of laws that I see come in that to a certain degree seem designed to benefit big players and like some some random little forum or some random little thing here or there that like you know maybe they do make money off of it I would they probably actually do have team boo suggests that another threshold could be users and I think that's valid that's an interesting one there's a contact is there actually a support though wow this website is rough I just went to paint dot net oh yeah good old paint dot net the email is not for technical support or troubleshooting there's a forum linked below there's an example yep there's just a support forum please ask our forum but isn't isn't paint dot net like open source there's a donate button yeah but that's uh again you said any site or service no what I said is that it if it is community created then it can be community supported so I said the forum is valid for that okay okay I don't remember that bit but I believe you yeah I was probably thinking about something else oh okay chicken probably I haven't eaten today so maybe maybe um yeah I don't know I think if there was some amount of yeah either a user count or a revenue count or a freeware freeware not open source sorry sorry and and yes this is a really good point vng supernova says open source doesn't mean community created um that's also very true that is very true often means limited amount of contributors because uh because I don't know either there often isn't that many contributors or it's people that just want credit for job applications uh hex dot says no chance uh with elon as part of the next use to administration doesn't tesla not even have pr anymore they don't have pr but 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the video um there was also if i remember correctly there was actually a reddit thread talking about how good parts of the video were even though the person recognized i i think it was about this video i don't remember i'm i'm i didn't know this was gonna be a topic in the doc so i didn't prep for this um how good parts of the video were even though they're usually just interested in the entertainment parts of the video they saw how it was like connected to real world things and like wow this is really cool and i was like yeah so we did a video this week that has changed titles a couple times because it's performing trying to make it work terribly and basically it was it was me and elijah and i got to give some credit to ploof who was actually the one who did the facebook marketplace dumpster diving before uh the project got passed to elijah to get it across the finish line um and but right now it's called i built an insane surround sound setup for under two hundred and fifty dollars and the original title focused on um building a home an entire home theater for less than the price of the the most popular sound bar and i don't know if the boast tv speaker is the most popular sound bar today but it was the last time we did a why is everybody buying this uh this sound bar it was it was the most popular sound bar on i believe amazon was the platform that we were using for that series at that time and the amount of criticism for this video slash the extremely low performance of this video has been a little demoralizing for me to be perfectly honest with you i've seen a lot of people that are kind of dunking on it for being you know another another facebook marketplace video um i've seen a fair number of people dunking on it because we're comparing against a new sound bar instead of comparing against a second hand sound bar so they see it as kind of like an unfair fight um i've seen quite a few people say that um you know the odds of them being able to find the exact parts that we're using are basically zero therefore this is not applicable to anybody and i gotta say guys i i don't know i i don't know i don't know how to deal i don't know how to deal with that and if the video was performing great like if it was getting a ton of views um then it would be fine but i guess what i'm trying to say is like i'm looking at this going like real tech tips might not be sustainable like if this if people are what did i do what can i do differently i guess is what i'm asking because like to your like what you said is is exactly right like that's that's not the point the point is not finding the exact av receiver that we did yeah the point is the journey did did you watch the video by any chance and it's fine if you didn't wasn't this one i watched a different one so basically what we what we did was we we got a few different options we started land center audio one got it we started with an old home theater in the box um so it was it was a number of years old and it was probably around 500 bucks when it was new but it was like 40 bucks today which realistically for those kind of low quality semi-proprietary um surround solutions probably more like it um they tend to be a little bit overpriced at msrp but if you can get them on clearance they can actually be a pretty great deal um so we started with one of those and showed that even for $40 on like a marketplace site like craigslist or facebook marketplace yeah we could absolutely obliterate this thing we we were unflinching in our acknowledgement of the the inconvenience and and the wiring mess um that was another thing man i saw people like defending soundbar super hard for the ease of use and i'm like guys we we acknowledged that so directly that i i just um i i just i don't know uh i don't i don't know how i don't know how we can acknowledge it more we we stepped it up by upgrading our left and rights so that you know particularly for watching anything with music in it which is like all content we could get a bit better of a of a soundtrack experience uh we upgraded our amplifier or maybe we upgraded the amplifier before we changed this be whatever we but we got a cheap avr um and with the intention not of using it for video switching because you can't use an older one for video switching if you want to run like uh you know a modern 4k display or whatever the case may be so we got an old amp and old amps like they they're they're still great amplifiers if you buy something that was decent 10 years ago 15 years ago you can still get a really nice amplifier um and then you just don't run your video through it which for most people is fine because your tv is probably going to have anywhere from two on the very very low end to four inputs anyway so you just run everything through there and then uh we added a subwoofer and then we added some cheap towers that we got and the final configuration was probably around 240 dollars compared to the Bose tv speaker which is 250 dollars um and our our point was just and and there were so many tech tips along the way i guess is what i'm trying to get to here sort of talking about speaker impedance best practices uh talking about uh what you can do if you don't have eark support on your receiver so talking about optical connections and the and the good things about it and the limitations of it um and i uh i think honestly past a certain view count there just isn't really room for it um maybe i'm being too doomer about this i would like to think that i'm being too doomer about this but i i don't necessarily think i am i think a pretty good example of this of maybe michael reeves when you look at some of michael reeves videos if i remember correctly um his very early videos he talked more about the programming that was involved and showed more of it and these days it's usually like a comical montage where sections of the code like fly past the screen uh like it's it's it's different people don't actually care i know there was there was like if you think about old youtube there was a lot of videos that were like tutorials on how to do something and then the people that were making the tutorials on how to do something videos realized that no one was actually doing it they were just watching them for the content so they tried to push entertainment and it started leaving the actual tutorial space there's some really good insight in Floatplane chat um like some people are saying yeah i really liked it to be clear i mean 900 000 plus people watched and like the like this like ratio is fine like it's not like people are hating on it i'm just trying to figure out how to make like like someone someone here said uh where is their comment um maybe it was just not that great of a video um can we just move on well no no no no no no no the point is like i'm trying to figure out how to make this more accessible because i want people to save money like that's why that's why we do this in the that's why we started doing this in the first place right is is bringing the people tech tips and we want to do it in an entertaining way but but we want we want to we want to like help um so i so i'm trying to like figure this out why does being critical of the content uh me in the video was bad okay no no there's hold on there's there's some there's some really good there's some really good comments uh on it so some people are saying in my area marketplace especially for this kind of stuff is kind of terrible i sometimes have to travel a couple hours for deal on gaming computers yeah well that that's a thing like that's a thing here too yeah and and we but we acknowledge the time spent in it and i think that like that mindset of like sort of bargain hunting is is what we're trying to get across so maybe that's something that we need to acknowledge more directly is like hey this has a cost in time like do you think that's something that would help maybe um um i don't know what was that not explained uh come bets and bulls and says i found it a bit hard to get what the point of the video was i felt like it was a little bit all over the place so maybe it's something where we need a bit of a better summary or we need a couple other comments like that we need more like visuals to kind of drive it along uh board aga i think probably has the best comment i've seen on it so far i bet the same video would have blown up if you'd done five versus fifty versus five hundred dollar home theater speaker set up and that is that is that is probably the best maybe we just should uh maybe we should maybe we should revisit it and like keep that same stuff get a five dollar option we've already got our fifty dollar option we upgrade our our two hundred fifty dollar option a little bit we take it to five hundred bucks we get a five thousand dollar option and then we like contact some we contact clips or something and we like borrow crazy yeah we borrow like a fifty thousand dollar option and then we just we do we do it again um postman says as an av professional i really enjoyed the video in the journey i guess maybe that's maybe that's the thing is maybe maybe the journey is too hard to follow along maybe like simplifying the format to like five versus fifty versus five hundred is is the way to go i did see a fair amount of comments on like maybe there should have been a better explainer at the beginning uh because i didn't understand what the what the video was about telesco says you called everyone out for making the worst choice you made your audience but hurt i'm in this tweet and don't like it that's probably a good point too like are we so then is part of this that people are watching tech tips just to be just to know their choice was validated as opposed to we've known that forever that has been true i can know something i can know something cognitively without fully we've legit talked about that being willing to accept that ncix that makes me sad though yeah i know but why aren't we allowed to say hey this thing that's super popular is not that great like man do you remember when probably about like nine years ago at h m fifties these garbage headphones like popped off in popularity because of some some like i don't know they just they got a lot of attention let's just say they got a lot of attention for a little while and you and i were both kind of sitting there going like what what like people buy these because they're disposable rubbish that's why they use them in the studio not because they're good what is happening right now um and i i do genuinely think if we had come out and made a video when that trend took off that was like the at h m fifties are not very good and people need to stop buying them we probably would have just gotten destroyed i think it's one of the two you either are right after or are the turn of the tide or you get slaughtered one of the two if you're the turn of the tide then your video is going to explode but if people aren't ready for it yet so you're not the turn of the tide then we'll just crap on you isaac v says it was hard to follow you scrambled a lot of parts and i didn't really get what was happening um by the way i would like a lot more technical details and what they're about okay well so those two things are definitely not going to work together um a ton more technical details is uh is going to make it a little harder to follow i can i can i can promise you that but i do agree that kind of like in the last scrapyard wars where we we went back we basically sent the edit back to the kitchen you never saw the original no i sent the edit back to the kitchen i said look you guys take however much time you need and make sure that we have these on-screen visuals that make it really clear what parts we have now what we've added what we're subtracting who we're negotiating with and and where the money stands and even then one prominent viewer couldn't figure out that i was never at a negative balance so yes that's in spite of our best efforts in spite of our best efforts you were shifty says i totally watch reviews for things i've already bought and that's that sort of validates your validation seeking i do sometimes too but it's not necessarily it's like kind of to see where it's at if that makes sense um and there's there's products where like you know i'll do some research on it i'll buy it i'll try it out and i'm like yeah like it's it's working but you know it's not 100 and then i'll see some new product comes out it'll get compared against that new product and then i'll be like oh yeah okay i probably should have waited this isn't great like i i allow my opinion to be changed um or honestly i'll sometimes buy something someone will review it against something else and say that it's crap versus the thing that they like and i'll be like yeah i just don't agree but like that's fine tim says there was a bit of difficulty when you were between the two systems like you had the center channel from this one but the receiver from another one i had a bit of difficulty knowing where the value was halfway through but it all kind of came together at the end and i think that is probably another like gold star good comment um because i still make videos with the intention that people watch the whole thing i know better than that yeah yeah you almost have to make like multiple videos you almost yeah you need to have like the pay off pay off pay off pay off and it kind of it kind of kills 20 viewer video the 40 percent viewer video the 60 percent viewer video you can never have like where's he going with this it always just has to be very clear and that's something that is easy for me to forget because i've always kind of hard to write for i imagine um yes and no i mean that that five versus 50 versus 500 format kind of flows yeah sure so yeah i guess you kind of have to shoehorn into a format that works for it or it might be more difficult to write for i suspect that's okay um sock had to be says the established tiers seemed to borrow stuff from the others a bit too much which made it harder to follow for some reason yep i think that's i think that's very fair uh in fairness to me i didn't source the stuff and so i didn't know exactly how it was all going to go together um so i was kind of i was kind of working with um with what i had but it's that's really that's really valid and i think that's something that i and the like the content team could have worked on ahead of time to make it more accessible by having like a a well understood format i think that's what it basically boils down to is we could have done a better job visually of showing exactly what it was we were doing and having a better established format wouldn't hurt i also think that some people kind of got fixated on details that didn't matter i saw i saw some people talking about how well i don't even have a home theater room and it's like well no that's that's not the point we're shooting in here because it's really convenient um but you could do this anywhere and and i think a lot of people kind of missed that um oh okay yeah i'm looking into booking a ride right now lieutenant salty the video was important too many people have crappy soundbars and have no idea what they're missing yeah i mean that was why we did it i thought it was a really important video um mantisa says are you just focusing too much on a loud minority no because the whole point of this is is that last thing that i just read so many people have the wrong thing and like need to hear this and it might not work for everybody not everybody has the space not everybody has the wife acceptance factor to be able to you know put a bunch of random speakers they found on craigslist and in their living space right like it's not going to be applicable to everyone but i do think that before you make that decision you should be well informed that's it i want people to make informed decisions and that was why we made that video like if you're interested in tech like like if you're interested in tech if you don't have a tv even i think it can still be an interesting journey to see what someone would do to set up that type of a system yeah because surely you might have friends and you want to you want to be the knowledgeable tech expert in your group i assume right like i'm i think so right okay all right why don't we jump into our next topic traffic's looking good i can leave slightly later why we weren't able to say more oh all right great let's do it let's do another topic like that hooray um so a lot of people last week were upset frustrated disappointed that we weren't able to say more about the channel hiatus is last week and there are two main reasons number one is that it's the law um and and it's funny i ended up kind of in exchanges with a couple of people where i i said that and they were like yeah but and i was like no there is no yeah but yeah it is just the law about certain things it's it's completely inflexible i cannot disclose literally anything about someone else's personal life including their employment status i was just gonna say and and to be honest for good reason sometimes it would be nice if you could but that the law should exist and that's number two because it's like the right thing to do um like let's say let's say hypothetically that you were no longer at your job tomorrow whether you quit or you were laid off or you were fired sort of immaterial um during your exit interview the hr manager asks you hey do you mind if we talk about the circumstances on our podcast you would think they lost their f***ing minds right but that is what a not insignificant number of people were asking me to do to be fair about me in particular i wouldn't necessarily think that but it would still be the law yes um and it doesn't matter how much anyone externally feels like they're entitled to it they're not yeah they're not entitled to it 100 um i saw some suggestions that we just provide information about the folks that we're parting amicably with for example nope well we always try to part amicably but it's not always possible and the issue there is that if we acknowledge some folks and not others it's pretty easy to do the the math um simple deductive logic and then uh and then the conjecture starts right we used to talk about stuff way more like we'd bring people onto the podcast on their last day or like nick van berkel for example is an example uh he for example is an example yeah he he made like a like a farewell video on Channel Super Fun um but what we've realized over time is that it's not a sustainable practice because as soon as there isn't a farewell video or an announcement or whatever the case may be people start speculating and the and the the rumor mill spins so much faster than we can possibly respond to any of it um i also saw some folks that were asking for way more detail about the business decision side of things again though let's put yourself in their shoes okay luke you are no longer working on a project okay and someone else who has a way louder megaphone than you goes and talks about whatever it is that led for your project to be shelved or canceled or whatever else do you think that do you think that would reflect on you a little bit possibly maybe yes it could it could affect uh future employment potential um it it would it would be a blow to morale immediately for sure i would be frustrated about that because like there's almost no way that they're going to say everything and there's no way that we're gonna say like we if something got canceled right almost certainly there was something that went wrong with it at some point in some way uh or right so so if i were to say like hey um we're gonna talk about all of the uh completely unsustainable practices at Floatplane that led for it to be shelved nice you're gonna be like excuse me yeah um and and then and then right it creates this like this this background drama um well you were supposed to be the business ARM exactly exactly which you know is valid um also Floatplane is not unsustainable yeah the reason we're using luke as an example and the reason we're using his project as an example is just illustrative yeah it's to show you guys why these conversations don't take place in public and shouldn't and just because we've made mistakes in the past doesn't mean that we should just continue to make them in the name of like what morbid curiosity like that's not that's not a good reason um so i'm really sorry to have disappointed some of you um looking at the comments from last week's WAN Show quite a few members of our community were extremely upset and i think that a big part of that is on me i should have explained this in more detail i i do this thing sometimes where i think that stuff is sort of self-evident um and and it's not because people live in all kinds of different places around the world where where laws and norms are different people come from all different walks of life people have their own value systems so to me this one was obvious based on all the experience that i've had doing it the other way and seeing what an absolute cluster f*** it is um you guys don't have that experience so you didn't know um this isn't a choice that helps i don't benefit from not offering explanations or justifications for the actions of our team or our company that that that doesn't help me uh when the rumor mill swirls because i can't give additional details about something i don't benefit guys um but it is a choice that is designed not for my benefit not for your benefit it's designed to minimize the impact on our team members both current and former don't expect this policy to be altered going forward because you'd be wrong cool good chat yeah do you want to talk about uh full screen ads for co-pilot plus pcs on Windows 10 so sick this is pretty cool microsoft is aggressively prompting Windows 10 users to upgrade employing full screen ads that highlight Windows 11 features particularly those on co-pilot plus pcs these ads coincide with the approaching end of free security updates for Windows 10 in october 2025 while an extended security update or esu program exists for a fee the ads predominantly push new pc purchases this aggressive marketing tactic isn't new for microsoft they've used similar methods for past os upgrades sometimes just forcing them on you anyways and users can still upgrade to Windows 11 directly on compatible pcs as an alternative discussion question is where's the limit every mainstream non-Linux operating system and even some of the Linux based ones would fall under the definition of adware at this point uh yeah yeah definitely where's my iphone here hold on i haven't used macOS do they have ads baked into macOS i have i have literally check this out hold on hold on hold on well i've used macOS but not active give me a sec check this out i didn't notice any i have i have left them because i wanted to i wanted to remember how many there were i have macOS doesn't have ads so that's not that's not correct i have three macOS never prompts you to like buy iCloud are you sure uh no what i'm saying okay fair enough what i'm saying is okay uh Windows has other ads well here it bakes in ads from everybody it's not even just their own stuff yeah i i'm sorry but i don't i don't i don't have i don't think there's i don't draw a distinction that's fair enough um okay so uh so on iOS right now my apple account suggestions i have three persistent notifications in my settings app for this um my iphone's not backed up okay that's valid however my second notification is your iphone can't be backed up upgrade for a dollar 29 a month and then my third notification is some iCloud data isn't syncing which again is related to me not having enough storage with the which they have kindly offered to solve for me for money um and then i have i mean that is how that would work i have three well no they could allow me to quickly leave free back up to my nas or my computer remember you do that in another way remember probably back i mean maybe but i don't have i don't have an ad from apple about that apple doesn't notify me that that's a possibility uh so is this in your settings thing or yeah i don't know it's right it's my well no i i got notifications for them at some point okay okay and then i have uh i have three notifications for services included with purchase let's see what do i have i get apple tv free for three months uh i get apple news plus so it's the purchase of the phone yeah but of course i'm gonna have to sign up for a subscription that is going to it's a very generous three months thank you very much for after my you know eleven hundred or twelve hundred dollar phone or whatever this is um but uh i'm gonna end up i'm gonna end up with subscriptions at some point um yeah well people are really mad about you uh i bet about you thinking that like they shouldn't offer or okay hold on hold on hold on okay guys no no no i am not i am not necessarily saying that apple should be well no i think i i think they should be be forced to to present me with with uh with an with an alternative option no actually no i do you know what i do think that uh one person's just particularly mad because apple's limit has been five gigs basically forever and they've done that intentionally knowing that you're gonna have to buy yeah but they don't have to provide that no but i think the thing that's i think the thing that is bad is that they they don't give me a free alternative if they're gonna give you a native notification yes and not give a free alternative that's pretty annoying if it's just in your settings thing and it's like hey you could do this that's not too big of a deal to me personally well it's giving you notifications yeah it breaks that line especially because they used to you used to be able to quickly and easily just plug a cable into your computer and back up to itunes yeah yeah but no they want you to buy cloud storage now um people are saying you can back up your phone over usb still so i guess the frustrating thing is just that they aren't presenting that oh apparently apple's being sued over this in the uk oh that's hilarious okay so i was uh yeah you can still use itunes so that's good they just don't tell you so back to what i said in the beginning i think they should present you with the free option yeah cool rather than just saying hey oh no oh my god your iphone's not backed up buy storage buy cloud storage from us mm wow good guy uk good job well that's a valid reason to want usb 3 on the iphone i actually didn't really think about that when we uh when we talked about the um the original implementation of USB-C on the iphone 15 family i didn't think about faster backups with the pro versions that have uh i believe it's 5 gigabit per second right is it five or ten i think it's five pixel pixel bugs you to buy drive storage um but one kind of point that i will give to them and i don't know if iOS does this is it will also suggest that you like delete old photos that it thinks are like just of garbage if it's like like a parking location or something that you like it doesn't think you need anymore it'll be like hey you can get rid of all this stuff or like hey you haven't opened this app in like a year you should just uninstall it like it'll give you suggestions on reducing your the amount of data that you have which i think is kind of neat but they do try to push you to buy more kumo star in Floatplane chat made a really good point what's really ridiculous is they've had time time machine on macOS for like a bazillion years and didn't ever let you do that on the iphone there is absolutely no reason from like an ecosystem user experience standpoint that i shouldn't be able to just arrive at home and my iphone shouldn't just wi-fi sync to my time machine that i literally already have because i literally already have a mac apparently apple does that too i don't know i don't use iOS i wasn't saying in contrast to apple i was just saying that i do like that they do that it to be clear we started this segment with every mainstream operating system yeah is functionally adware now yeah um and it's it's really frustrating apparently you can wi-fi sync to itunes well why not like why not time machine is there a reason to not be able to do that to my nas that supports time machine i don't know man i just it just it doesn't seem it doesn't seem intuitive no one's fighting that deep blue deep blue says at luke why does the pixel not prompt me to add a different cloud account like draw box or next plow when i don't have enough drive storage i'm not i'm not defending google this isn't this isn't man you start talking about Android or iOS and people just immediately this isn't a wi-fi sync to itunes versus the other is apparently not automatic and archangel of death says it would be too convenient of an alternative to buying more iclad yes yes that's that's the whole point that that's what we're trying to say also i don't want to back up to my desktop pc because i don't want to have a raid array in my desktop pc i want to back up to my nas i want to use time machine like if i was an apple user that is what i would want i would want it to go to time machine that would be sick what's also super time machine is cool time machine has always been cool to be honest it is so cool and it's like it's not even it's one of those things that's not even like unique like snapshot based backup tools existed for billion years it's good and it's integrated yeah um and the only reason for them to not build a good integrated thing is so that they can sell you their own storage solution their own cloud storage yeah um anyway this is super cool this is the last thing that we really need to talk about before you go have you seen the land party house i was wondering if you were gonna see this yes i have what the heck you should like go or something i would actually love to the way pretty cool dude the way that this room folds up dude it's so sick and yeah you can so so closed station to the right it just looks like the wall and you can see so the the doors at the bottom support the desk like oh man this is so really cool incredibly thoughtful ddr panels under the floor this is so using them later cool um the upstairs office we can game here too yeah and there's uh there's keyboard like uh what looks like uh pull out keyboard trays or no that might just be keyboard storage i'm not sure because this one's just kind of sitting here like even better than that that is so cool flip up monitors that is wild oh wait yeah yeah yeah wow so that was literally a keyboard you saw they just flip it up that is so cool this is just extra i hadn't looked through the whole thing pre-show because i wanted to i wanted to do it live cable management stealthy stealthy absolutely love it killer conduit look at this look at this they've got actual like cable trays up in the ceiling just like you'd have in like a data center call rooms like they're in an office look at this that's so sick look at this this is hilarious 20 identical machines personal desktops door leads to the hot side oh my goodness this is so cool dude it's wicked this is so cool apparently it was like a million dollars yeah uh e-gads this photo has made a lot of network engineers angry oh because they're not using a patch panel response in the q and a okay yeah this was a mistake i'm a software guy yeah okay sounds good got you got you two gigabit per second fiber in it this is crazy look at this can you imagine like working at the you know the micro center when someone comes in like hey i'll take everything yeah thank you how many uh i'd like to i'd like to buy a 40 70 how many yes yeah um that was i guarantee you that was funny so assembly yeah man look at this space i it's just so it's so enticing yeah beautiful the house has normal parts too yeah i'd love to see it dude look at this yep cat door leads into the kids bedrooms i love it i i have wanted to do this since before we moved into our new place like little cat shelves and stuff on the wall i just haven't gotten around to it apparently one of their parents is like um like works in architectural design or something sorry cloud flare oh no no no no that oh i understand yeah and and kind of helped with this and has like designed some pretty cool stuff got a couple work from home call rooms clearly it does a good job cat restrooms like really man seriously though if i were to design my own house from scratch i would 100 do it if you never have to look at it and smell it like man cats are like the best pets ever the worst thing about them is the litter dude so cool oh it's space under the stairwells dude i could totally convert one of those spaces in my place to uh to a cat bathroom dude the downstairs one definitely i should do that and the and the main stairwell i could totally make a little door in there and i don't know how humans would access it but cats definitely could um a couple guest rooms dude this roof deck like what like freaking what oh yeah amazing um yeah super super cool project i i would love to come check it out i'm in i'm inviting i'm inviting myself to to go do a tour i mean honestly i think they already did like a great job of doing a tour of the place but i still would love to just check it out and get out over it yeah incredible someone one upped my host land center oh yeah it's a great title yeah yeah it's a great title slightly better than they also they didn't one up it they like six kind of smashed it yeah a little bit yeah like i didn't even think about other people in my family just keeps going they're like oh you thought we had one land center yeah what about second crazy i love it so sick i'm i'm i'm it's impressive to see anyone that dedicated to pretty much anything yeah and because it happens to be something that i think is super cool and i'm also into uh it's that much cooler yeah i think they did an amazing amazing job of their setup uh do you need to go you you you're like getting pretty anxious here so that that's fine get get out of here okay get out of here uh the topics what do you want to yeah i'll finish off the topics and then we can do a couple merge messages that i guess it'll just be me and you then let's see yep that i am there's only a couple i'm so excited for this Android will apparently finally be able to instantly log you into your apps on new devices this has been a huge pain point for me because i have so many like accounts and and two factors and dependencies that i basically cannot use a phone until probably three or four hours after i first start setting it up and it's annoying because for my job i switch phones a lot more than probably most people and i have like i have like i get like anxiety when i need to switch phones google has announced restore credentials which will allow apps to seamlessly log users into their accounts on new Android device after user restores their apps and data from a previous device oh if they can do it in a way that's like secure that's yeah i'm so that's why i started looking at this weird i'm so excited i just can't hide it i think this particularly for reviewers is going to be amazing the user experience should be as if they had already been using the new device they would even receive notifications from apps that have not yet been opened on the new device how it works signing into an app on the old device will create a restore key which is stored locally and backed up to the cloud apps can opt out of cloud backup you dare the restore key is a public key compatible pass key slash phyto two back ends and uses the same server side implementation as pass keys when setting up the new device the user can restore data from a cloud backup or transfer data locally why is google doing this is a question here i i i don't care i'm not asking that it's great am i am i this is counter my rant about google early in the show not doing anything this is innovation i am like this is actually pretty cool so excited about this okay my ride's gonna be here in two minutes i'm gonna go according to the Android developer blog 40 percent of people in the us reset or replace their smartphone every year that's a big one forget even like getting a new phone the number of device manufacturers where you're like hey i'm having a problem and their immediate response is to heart to reset the phone it's like do you have any idea how much f***ing work homework you just gave me resetting my phone that sucks resetting your device sucks huh anyway um they say that making the process of logging back into apps on a new phone much faster and easier will help avoid app abandonment and user churn okay well that part of it i'm not that into if it's just to like make sure i keep paying my subscriptions like a good little boy but um whatever i still love it um oh hold on the Android developer blog apparently the 40 percent is probably an overestimate our notes here say that's probably incorrect various statistics have it more like 10 to 20 max but anyway i'm in that 10 to 20 percent and so i'm extremely extremely excited about this and i i can't overstate how excited i am about it our last topic which i'm less excited about is microsoft ignite 2024 there's some good stuff microsoft announced the Windows resiliency initiative quick machine recovery allows it admins to remotely apply fixes to pcs that can't boot so this is in response to the crowd strike issue earlier this year Windows 11 enterprise now supports hot patching in public preview no reboot required okay that is pretty cool administrator protection standard users can temporarily gain admin privileges by authenticating with Windows hello and more and then next up we've got the Windows 365 link this is a little less exciting a 350 edge pc that only serves as a client to access a Windows 365 cloud pc it supports dual 4k monitors has four usb ports an Ethernet port Wi-Fi 6e and bluetooth 5.3 will be available in april 2025 my only question is why does this need to exist in a world where the mac mini also exists cloud powered performance the mac mini is a rip and fast pc for yes more but i would say considering that it is a full fat like awesome pc for that price is a lot more compelling but hey we'll see how it goes we'll see how it goes microsoft also announced new ai-powered customizable co-pilot agents that are rolling out in microsoft 365 aka office like the facilitator agent which can take real-time notes during teams meetings and chats which is in public preview now we use a third party tool for that so this is actually kind of useful for us interpreter agent which provides real-time speech to speech interpretation during meetings even optionally simulating the user's voice public preview in early 2025 and an employee self-service agent which can answer common policy questions and facilitate tasks related to hr and it okay maybe i'm maybe i'm getting more excited it was just the it was just the Windows 365 link that i was like because microsoft 365 is all co-pilotified microsoft is adding a little co-pilot badges to the app icons for word excel powerpoint etc and best of all they're changing the microsoft 365 logo to something pretty similar to the co-pilot logo but with an m 365 badge this is a terrible logo um huh oh wow it says please watch this 10-second clip with audio to hear ignite attendees if the enthusiasm for this change sure you've got some audio playing some mute uh something else first uh yeah i will do that give me one sec i i i would imagine they're gonna sound about like what i just sounded like looking at that logo i i had not um i had not seen that yet and it is not very good here we go all right 10 second clip then should it work yep okay here we go icon to the new microsoft 365 co-pilot icon oh boy wow oh that was the shortest oh polite applause that i think i have ever heard at a keynote wow uh this last part is actually super cool also rolling out now for meta quest 3 and 3s users these is the ability to access a local or cloud-based Windows instance and interact with multiple virtual monitors whoo that's uh that's looking pretty cool and comes at a much lower price than an apple vision pro and a macbook so uh i can see people being pretty stoked on that one as well good gravy was that ever savage though wow i i think i might even even as much as i don't like it i think i could probably muster a little bit more fake enthusiasm than that yikes all right why don't we switch over to when after dark mr Dan besser can do whoa we need to switch the wanshow to this time forever our concurrence on youtube are like 15 percent 20 percent higher than usual that's 20 higher than usual that's higher than of very high i'm showing 16 oh never there we go everybody stop watching uh yeah yeah we should do that oh man i don't want to get up early on fridays though me too this sucks uh it's actually 5000 youtube is there's an error uh yeah yeah it's a reporting error reporting the dashboard is broken um exactly oh crap okay you know what's funny is we always did it at the later time because and i don't want to make anyone else feel unappreciated but we always did it at the later time because um the australian crew was like so into being able to catch wanshow and so vocal about it that we picked the afternoon on fridays because it would be um not a work night for the east coast in north america so they could kind of stay up and watch it and it would be uh in the morning for the australians to watch and we've just kind of we just kind of um we our european audience was a lot less vocal and a lot a lot smaller back then and so we have we have always been kind of aussie uh aussie accommodating and maybe it's because i don't know maybe it's because i kind of think of australians as probably one of the closest cultures to canada um maybe i felt like some kinship you know we're both kind of like they're like sorry but with spiders yeah we're still kind of commonwealth but like you know kind of f**king charles you know like i don't know we just always kind of seemed we always kind of seemed on the same page about things but um yeah this is wow this is a this is a lot um this is a lot uh a lot higher viewership than usual i hadn't looked at the analytical i hadn't either yeah no this is uh concerning huh outlier um okay uh yeah maybe you know oh well i'm not promising anything because the work week is very challenging here in a lot of ways and i'm often mentally really tired like i to be clear i don't think that i work a hard manual labor job or anything like that but it can be mentally very exhausting and uh early morning on my on my fridays is not my favorite time to have to be like on for two to four hours now that's another thing too is doing it at the end of the workday on friday means that we can just kind of like not disturb anybody and we can go for as long as we need to until we're blocking like three or four sets right now yeah you can't do a ShortCircuit nobody can come in the building we can't do TechLinked nobody can be upstairs uh why do you keep moving yourself you're the you're my only co-host right now down oh yeah i keep forgetting about that uh i should try and move the camera over slightly if i can do that but it might not be a terrible idea anyway yeah so okay i didn't consider that so it definitely won't be any changes anytime soon but um yeah i'm definitely i'm definitely liking y'all hanging out with us that's pretty cool it's kind of fun all right want to hit me with uh a handful of merch messages and then i guess we should get out of people's way yeah probably uh let's see with graphics card running hotter and the 4090 already being a 60 millimeter thick will we eventually see tower coolers as standard would you consider janking one together for a current or next gen i mean dude i i would a a few short years ago i would have said no that's just a silly mod that people do and uh we're always gonna need to keep our slots open for additional add-in cards and then what add-in cards do people even install anymore what are we supposed to like most motherboards like they they high-end motherboards this is a funny thing it used to be pisses me off so much dude remember remember when high-end motherboards had more PCIe slots yeah i will pay more for extra because i need a lot of pc i card sometimes yeah now it's like one yeah basic boards especially like matx matx is one that drives me absolutely bonkers because the high-end ones will remove PCIe slots but they're not even full-size atx board so they don't have like five or six m dot two slots on them so i'm sitting here going what did you do with the lanes why am i paying extra for this if you're not putting like a plx chip on it and giving me all the slots what what happened basic matx boards have all the slots what's happening here um exactly and so uh yeah now that this trend of people only install GPU's in their systems because GPU's cost so much we can't afford other cards just not the not the real reason they're but i don't know it might be a contributor um i don't know i mean what i will say is that i wouldn't be surprised if 5090 coolers are about the same size as 4090 coolers even with the rumored increase in TDP and the reason for that is that the rumor is that 4090 coolers were designed for a much higher TDP because NVIDIA kind of rug pulled the their board partners on what the exact heat output of the card was going to be so i don't think they're going to get bigger in the next generation but with that said man i don't think anything's off the table anymore oh man dude how cool would it be Dan if we had uh oh i guess i should look this way at you even though you're physically over there yeah sure that works uh oh my goodness uh how cool would it be if we had a standard where you're kind of like the old trashcan mac pro right where you've got your CPU socket and then you've got your GPU and the die is on the top and you could just do like a gigantic combo cooler and then just have like front to back airflow that goes right through it uh yeah i'd like that or that'd be sick like you could have your CPU cooler here and then maybe another thing that kind of wraps around it yeah so you can still remove them or you could move the CPU socket more to the right of the board yeah uh and then you could um because you'd have such a large cooler like a GPU even though it kicks out so much heat is a larger die it's easier to move the heat away from so you could cool your smaller die CPU where you really need that temperature differential between the the air and the and the fins um or rather and and the and the and the processor itself and then you could take that semi heated air blow that through like a big a large cooler for the GPU so you could you could either do them serial or you could do them uh like split like you could have the CPU on the one side and the GPU on the one side and then you could just have like a tunnel that you're blowing air down that kind of cools each on both sides or i think probably the most effective design would be like the trash can which really did a great job of cool of removing that much heat for its size and for its noise and then you would just have like heat pipes coming off the GPU heat pipes coming off the CPU into this like a great big fin stack that would be freaking cool and maybe we should start seeing like you know CPU chips just come as a chip when can we get GPU's that do that oh it's never gonna happen i know it would be never gonna happen i think i think what pisses me off mostly about the new motherboards these days is again yeah like a pc i lanes um pc i gen five came out all the boards put it on it it has like a thousand pc i gen four lanes what speed do uh GPU's run out Linus it's pc i gen four times eight for now for now for now i i would like to see i'd like to see the desktop use the additional bandwidth of pc i gen five differently i would actually rather than see a pc i e by 16 GPU slot i would like to see everyone get together and kind of go hey can we all acknowledge that 16 current generation lanes is utterly unnecessary and can we start putting 8x slots as our primary GPU slot and using those lanes somewhere else having more slots having more i o having more more storage ports you know i i i put the new consumer the pc i five came out i need the new nice big thing that's the new number right well hold on there is i see pc i gen four times x you know i've got a mother board that has seven pc i slots uh i know what i'm buying average consumer sees top of the line board pc i gen five they know that it they don't know that the GPU's don't even run at the speeds i have a justification down i have a justification for this go for it if i still had a 16x slot right pc i gen five by 16 and a pc i e gen six card comes out right i could take that i could put it in my gen five slot and i'd still be getting half of its total theoretical bandwidth if we move to buy eight interfaces um i will be getting now and we get like a 16x card and i put it in my 8x slot that's a gen old i will be getting a quarter of the theoretical bandwidth which could actually impact performance another thing um a lot of the CPU and north bridge like lanes are shared if i put too many NVMe drives in it disables pc i slots if i put too many SATA drives in it disables pc i slots what if you just give me eight slots on the board and then we can adjust which ones are active or not dude server boards like that's kind of what i'm talking about right that's basically how they work now is you don't even have slots on them they just have those little um what what's that mini whatever connector called uh Jake sent me the wildest looking board that was pretty i think it was from asrock rack where it just had no slots on it and just the entire bottom of the board was covered in those uh those pc i e riser connectors and i was like oh my gosh that's so cool because then you can you just design your chassis around that and you just like carry pc i e wherever you want it storage devices GPU's basically uh that would be super nice like taking the pc i standard to its logical conclusion and just making everything like an head in card yeah not oculink it's it's the it's the newer one i i it's it's escaping me right now um i have no idea yeah i can't remember no it's not oculink oh yeah bifurcation is another huge thing i've got a quad m dot two drive thing in there adding cable cost though is gonna is gonna kill the deal on consumer like for servers yes but not for not for yeah but it gives manufacturers the opportunity to sell more dongles yeah i mean the end of the dongles like it they'll love it they'll push it for just that i think case it would really change case design that would be that would be super cool if all of a sudden you could kind of like creatively mount cards anywhere but looking at how little adoption we've seen for for pc i e risers like it's still niche in the small form factor space or like the vertical mounts like it's still i would say at most probably one percent of pc's if you factor in pre-builds probably less like i i just don't think most people are going to be willing to absorb that additional that additional cost probably not all right what what else we got today okay thanks for the early show now i can watch it work since i work in a data center myself i love that video tour uh was there anything that you learned that you want to apply to your home's pool loop uh those leak detection cords are super cool like being able to know exactly where it is but but no um the the cost of implementing things the way that they do them is why we didn't do it that way it's not because we like didn't think of it uh it's yeah it's super cool to like see it all done right i'd say the one thing that we are legitimately considering because we've had multiple power outages here at the office in the last couple of weeks because of storms in the in the southwestern bc area is diesel generator backups uh we're getting pretty darn tired of our power going out um but like we can't afford to have you know an on-site you know fuel purifier and like so it's going to be someone's job to micromanage like making sure we have non-stale diesel fuel on site all the time and i'm just looking at it going we can barely keep our our snackies drawers stocked because and and that's not because you know people like you know do a bad job or something it's just because like we've we've got a lot going on and it's easy for it's easy for just in case we need it stuff to fall by the wayside when something else is happening right so i i understand especially if you can't even keep snackies in stock which are extremely visible oh yeah you know okay you know you know why the snackies aren't in stock right now yeah canada post strike casco relies on them for delivery so we don't have snackies right now like i think our i think our shipment is like one of those limbo shipments where it started before the strike ended and then or before the strike started and then didn't get completed or something i i don't know exactly why i'm piecing this together someone told me that it's to do with the canada post strike and i read an article about how some things are stuck in limbo so i made some assumptions i connected some dots but basically it's something to do with the canada post strike what we'll call the moldies now instead of snackies because it's just been in a warehouse for the last month and a half thanks Dan um let's see last one i've got here for you hello gents i think my last merch message went astray yes it did i'm sorry about that i own a zx spectrum uk competitor to the commodore 64 do you think keyboard computers could ever make a comeback love max um no the keyboard is has become such a personal choice like even and i'm not even talking about the people for whom their keyboard is is their their purest expression of their self you know um i'm talking about just a low profile high profile numpad no numpad uh positioning of various keys uh keyboards have become such a personal choice that i i feel like integrating them into a device would be a fundamental error of the greatest magnitude um like even even mobile devices right like they they come with a keyboard but you can absolutely switch it out for a different keyboard a different layout different functionality if you want um i just i i don't i don't see us making a return to this and sure yes okay you could make it modular kind of like what framework did on the framework 16 but again i look at what an outlier the framework 16 is as a laptop with you know a slim modular keyboard um more modularity is absolutely absolutely not the direction that the industry is going and i wouldn't expect that trend to reverse anytime soon yeah uh randall we don't have no plans for a like a formal tool bag at this time nothing's impossible but there's nothing happening at this time and i think that's it for the wancho it feels bizarre doesn't it to be done wancho like yeah and then go for lunch again just what do i do i don't know i like i feel like my day's over and it's time to go home like this is like like like salivation condition response right now yeah i'm ready i'm gonna i'm sleepy i'm ready to go to bed yeah because like i was talking to sammy about this i've had maybe three or four like single hand friday nights off in 10 years not even exaggerating um so i'm like will i just go and like stare at the ceiling all evening yeah because i because i take my my meds too early this morning and i'm wired i told my kids i told my kids that i'm coming home at a reasonable time and they were like why i was like well i'm why do you lie to us daddy yeah i know i was like oh we're doing wancho in the morning they're like why i'm like because luke has to catch a flight and they're like oh i'm like oh okay maybe i guess you guys have plans on friday nights i i don't blame you i mean i've been absentee dad on friday nights for your entire lives but yeah sure i mean uh cool have a uk snack or just leave i don't know yeah i mean our branding's all off now we can't have wancho after dark when it isn't dark it's messed up man everything's messed up i didn't even push the button oh yeah oh okay well let's do a special let's do a special shout out for dbrand then who didn't get their uh their their banner interruptions and actually i can i can show you guys i saw it on the forum oh okay well that's the ridge collaborative product hold on let's wait let's refresh again and find another collaborative product hello oh our cost goes next came through ups as of yesterday oh did they okay so it's fixed now then i think they've always come through ups oh well why did someone tell me it was something to do with canada post then i don't know blaming you i'm gonna go speak to that person okay do i have to load a new page like what's what's going on here uh okay hello refresh i thought alt f5 is supposed to do like a full refresh alt function f5 am i am i just completely derping here Dan uh on what on alt f5 alt f5 is the thing to refresh the page right i think that's like is that force refresh well i thought it was i thought is it it's just f5 alt shift f5 i don't know what the force oh sorry oh yeah i thought it was all is it shift f it's shift f5 good lord for the force yeah okay i haven't had a reason oh crap i haven't had a reason to force refresh a page in years and years and years sorry it doesn't happen very often yeah i i don't even know if it works there's no like indicator that it's actually a force refresh i don't think it's force refreshing because it's loading it's loading the exact same thing even if i whether i shift you guys are sure it's not alt control is it control i think sometimes there's like a shortcut that you hit the refresh icon while holding down a shortcut i don't know if that works okay yeah it seems to be just not okay LTT backpack available now i'm just going to keep clicking stuff until whatever the point is we finally launched oh uh black friday sale ends in 10 hours shop now i don't oh my god i don't care uh okay yeah circuit board so cool um this apparently is gyro controlled on Android which i thought was pretty neat uh if you go to um if you go to the the circuit board landing page um there's three different versions we've got uh dark circuit ShortCircuit and glow circuit and uh it's going pretty good people are pretty into the design so guys you can you can check that out our skin partner d brand there you go all right i think that's pretty much it we'll see you guys again next week same bad time same bad channel oh oh crap what what you should do is we should pull up a video well no no we got this you got a column yeah i was gonna i was freaking out i don't know what's gonna happen this is uh this is hilarious for the first little while before i synchronized my contacts on the iphone uh luke was still in my address book as slick and so i didn't realize that i went to call him with with voice in my car and i was like call luke laffernier and it's like sorry who i'm like call slick and it goes through i kind of want to put him back in my address book is that oh hey bye all right I Have made a terrible mistake. I said same bad time it'll it'll be like the normal time not this time, okay"}