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You just let me know when we're live.

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We is live. We is live. How are you all doing?

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How are you all doing?

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Hopefully good. Well. Doing well.

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Well. Not good. Well.

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Good. But. Well.

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No. Well good. This bit didn't work.

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That's what happens when you don't plan at all what you're going to say when the

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show goes live. Sorry. I'm still getting into my dashboards and stuff.

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Hope you all are having a wonderful, wonderful Friday.

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What am I looking for this one?

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And populate. What? What just happened?

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Trying to log into things here, buddy. Get it together.

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All right. Good job. Linus.

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Okay. Now I'm ready to push it live.

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What are we? Five. Five.

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Oh five. All right. Cool.

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How are you? How do you float? He's doing.

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About our floaters in here. Chat working. Where's my chat at?

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Which evolution of Pokemon is that? You got the Machop. Machat.

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Machat. Machimp. That's manky.

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Oh, sorry. My bad. Get it right.

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Get it right. Oh, there it is. Now it's working.

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Perfect. So my career is over again, apparently.

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I was reading about that on the internet. Oh yeah.

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Yep. What now? I don't know.

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It's just, it's over probably. Oh nice. Yeah.

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That's fine. That's good. You know what?

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It's kind of liberating. Yeah. Being, like being always, being always canceled is sort of like.

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Synonymous with never canceled. Yeah. Yeah.

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Cause if you're, if you're always canceled, then you can't really be more canceled.

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I mean, you probably could. Is that a challenge?

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I know. You know, we are minutes from the WAN Show.

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No. Cause I could do it. Nevermind.

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You guys anything? Yeah.

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Like, like Mr. Burns is perfectly balanced critical illnesses.

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Have you seen that episode? He's so unhealthy that like the, the wasting away and the, and the aggressive growth of

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his tumors like cancel each other out and like everything's in this like delicate balance.

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That's pretty funny.

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Ouch. Mm. Form?

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Although. Actually, I think I've finally figured it out.

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Oh. I, whether the, okay, whether it was the physio that was kind of too focused on the massage

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treatments for this part of the ARM or whether it was that I just like wasn't paying perfect

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attention, which. Wow. Admittedly is a thing that happens with me from time to time.

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It turns out that this is important up here, but the one that like, like I, that unlocked

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basically being able to use my elbow again was this one down here.

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So for those of you not in the know, I've had tennis elbow for like a few months now

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actually and it got over the last, I don't know, three to six weeks.

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It got bad enough that like I basically would have a hard time just picking something up.

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Like a water bottle wouldn't even have to be full and I would have difficulty gripping

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it and picking it up. It's been quite painful and it seems to have been like a repetitive strain injury from

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that tournament that I played late last year and it just kind of flared up really bad.

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And so finally I've gone to physio for the first time in my life because I've always

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just been kind of a like, I don't know, you know, stretch it out and, you know, try to

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make sure you're maintaining range of movement. It'll heal on its own eventually and that's always kind of worked for me, but I'm almost

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40 now. So apparently that doesn't work. Anyway, so I've gone and I've done like some physio and stuff and they've done like some

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ultrasound and some like the electric thing.

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But anyway, so they were so they were showing me what to do and I don't know what happened.

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But basically I didn't clue in that not only do I have to be working on the bottom of the

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ARM, but I got to like go at it like super, super, super, super hard because what causes

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the pain is, is not necessarily the like the micro tears in the tendon and the elbow.

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Like that's a natural part of stretching, working out muscle gain, like all of that,

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you're going to get these little micro tears. The problem is it's that the micro tears combined with the muscles around it pulling on it all

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the time that causes the inflammation causes the flare ups and it leads to like kind of

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a snowballing. That's what makes it a repetitive strain injury is you reach this sort of critical mass and

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then it just kind of goes runaway train and then it's it can't heal itself anymore.

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So anyway, it's it's in here and I didn't realize like how frigging hard you have to

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go. And once I finally did and I managed to get it to loosen up a little bit, I was able to

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clear and smash last night. So and one of those is a badminton shot, give me my ding.

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Oh, they're both badminton shots.

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Anyway, I'm Tynan. Tynan gave me this.

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Yeah. Tynan knows his stuff as far as my understanding goes.

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Oh, yeah.

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Nice. Yeah. I was like, looks like it's not a not a sex thing is he's like, no, no, no, no, that

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or a torture device. Yeah. Well, it's a little bit.

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One of those. So you clamp it down, right?

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So you grab it like that. You kind of put it on the leg and you grab it like that.

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Oh, you find the spot with the ball and you just kind of, you know, like go like this

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and like really like get in there. It's so painful.

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A lot of it, but it's good.

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It feels like counterintuitive, but a lot of recovery is pain.

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Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. No pain, no gain.

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No pain, no gain. But yeah, I think intuitively you think a lot of that pain or strain as a lot of people

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seem to equate with pain. I don't know.

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It's just in the gym or whatever, but then yeah, recovery days can often be very uncomfortable.

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So yeah, I'm feeling good. I'm not feeling good yet.

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Like it's painful today, but it's not too bad and I'm very excited because I had been

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either not recovering at all or getting worse in spite of resting and like trying to do

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massage and trying to like, I have a heat, like a heated blanket that I rolled up into

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a tube and I put elastics on and I've been like wearing it like a sleeve while I sleep.

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It does like cycles. So it warms up and then it cools and then it warms up for a bit and then it cools.

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Just trying to get more blood flow to it and at least now it feels like there's progress.

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I mean, you know what that's like, he had a long time just feeling like there's no progress

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from week to week and it's super discouraging, especially when you're doing a lot about it,

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especially when you finally completed construction on a badminton center and you can't play.

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Like we've done our first couple of like, like ladder nights, like competitive ladder nights

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and stuff and I can't participate. I'm like, come on. Yeah.

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That's super frustrating.

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Yeah. This one isn't that bad because I can still do stuff, but I'm having an issue with my

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right shoulder again, but instead of it being rotated, instead of it being rotator cuff,

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it's like the front delt. It's here.

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Very weird and it's not, it doesn't, it doesn't like seem to affect much, but when I try to

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go bench press, it's painful.

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It will still function, but I feel pain specifically right there and I'm like, that's probably

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bad. So I'm going to try to figure out what this is before like something happens.

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Jay Fife says, damn, these dudes are old. Yeah.

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Slash S. Yeah. No, but you're not, you're not wrong, man.

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We're, we're getting there. I definitely not young anymore. I feel that, I feel that a hundred percent.

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The things used to just like auto-fix themselves and now it's like, no, not even a little bit.

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Nerdy asks, is there anything left to do on the badminton center?

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Yeah. Yeah, definitely. I mean, we don't, we didn't know much about, you know, how to configure a concession.

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Turns out you need like two sinks and you need all this venting and you need all this stuff.

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We're not even allowed to microwave a pizza pocket the way that it is now. So I think what we're going to do is we're going to put in some more showers at the back

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and then on that same permit poll, we're going to make any rentals that we need to the concession

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and get like, you know, bubble tea or something in there, bubble tea.

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And what else is there? Luke's still whining that we don't have any of his sissy two and a half pound plates.

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Two and a half pound plates. It's important to identify that they're plates.

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I'm not looking for two and a half pound dumbbells.

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It's the plates. Because when you do barbell stuff and you want to go up by five pounds, you need to put

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two and a half on each side. You need two and a half pound plates.

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You have to have them. Some of the higher plates, you can actually combine other ones to make up for it.

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You can't do that with two and a half pounds. I'm just giving him a hard time because we're back, they're back ordered from our suppliers.

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So we... Oh, I was going to reach out and be like, what's going on? Yeah, we've had the gym like done for a while other than the two and a half pound plates

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that he says he simply cannot work out without. But they're involved with at least one workout that I do like every time.

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So it's like, damn.

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Dave Fife says, just go up 10 pounds, be a man.

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That's just so like, oh man, I'm already almost constantly at least mildly injured.

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That's just going to make it way worse. All right, let's do this thing.

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At least you'd be up 10 pounds. Yeah.

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Well, I wouldn't be if I just can't lift it. At least you'd have a penis.

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Yeah, Luke. My God.

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You're going to come back to the gym, Dan? Yeah, hopefully so.

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You're trying to throw it at me? You haven't even been there like a year. It's been so long.

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I think it's actually like a year. I'm really angry.

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Yeah. And you don't have much once the two and a half pounds are in.

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You don't have much of an excuse. Well, that's about all be able to lift if it's been that long.

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All right, I'm resuming the selected. Okay.

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What is up, y'all, ladies and gentlemen?

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Welcome to the WAN Show. We have a terrible show lined up for you this week.

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We have nothing, so it'll be a great show.

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That's how it works. Yeah, I know. It only seems to work that way.

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That's the law, yeah. The big topic that is enveloping the TECOSphere this week is obviously G-Force cables melting

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to the melting. So we'll be talking about what's going on with RTX 5090 cables, including, I think,

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someone on our team threw it in the CT scanner so we could have a look at what some folks

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are talking about out there with the PCB design and the shunts and all of that.

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What else we've got this week? We're, I called the guy.

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I called the guy. And if you're not a regular viewer, you're going to have no idea what I'm talking about.

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But if you are a regular viewer, you're going to be pretty excited.

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The guy has been called. What else we got this week? Zotac copied our verified actual gamer program, which, if you're new here, is actually pretty

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old at this point. Yeah, I know, right? Which is kind of weird to even think about, but still.

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And Steam distributed malware?

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Ooh. Sure.

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It's like four people.

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The show is brought to you today by Odoo, Odd Pieces, and Corsair.

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And of course, by our rap partner, Dbrandt, and our chair partner, Secret Lab.

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They really don't do a good job of living up to their name.

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Secret Lab? You can't really be a secret. Very public, well-known lab.

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If you're advertising all the time. Yeah. Yeah.

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Bad job, Secret Lab. Well-marketed lab. Speaking of bad job, let's jump right into our first topic today, GeForce Cables Melting

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to the Melting. Here's a bit of a recap from last time, from GeForce Cables Melting 1, the, a new hope?

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I don't know. When the 4090 launched, we saw lots of reports of cables melting.

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In Vidya, their story pretty much boiled down to it being user error, either people seating

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the cable incorrectly or installing poorly constructed third-party cables.

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Part of the issue was that to get their fancy new connector to fit in a lot of cases with

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the way that it stuck out directly off the top of the card, the cable ended up pressed

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against the side panel, straining the connection. Now Cablemod made some 90-degree adapters that people hoped would fix the problem, but

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long story short, they didn't, and Cablemod ultimately recalled said product.

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Newer 4090 models attempt to solve the issue by repositioning the 16-pin power connector.

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Also, the 12-volt high-power cable design was updated to 12-volt 2x6 for 2025.

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It has shorter sense pins and longer conductor terminals to help ensure that all of the power,

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excuse me, all of the power carrying cables are all the way in before the sense pins will

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say, hey, yeah, we've got a connection. Corsair currently has at least six blog posts about 12-volt 2x6 or 12-volt high power, which

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adapter you should use and how to connect cables to your power supply.

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Now I'm going to take a moment here and go off the notes provided to us and say, hey,

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if something's this complicated, is the problem maybe you and not me?

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Anyway, no, no, sorry, I digress.

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Reports of more failures with the 4090 and adapters continue to pop up all the way into

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2025. PCGamer ran an article in April last year stating that one repair shop in the LA area

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saw about 200 cards and adapters with melted connectors over a one-month period, and Tom's

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hardware ran an article yesterday called the dark side of gaming finding that their two-year-old

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cards connector had been melting despite no obvious performance issues.

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Now, it's time to fast forward to a day after yesterday, and it's time to talk about the

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5090. We are now seeing more reports of cables melting.

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Reddit user Ivan6953 made a post a few days ago showing melting on both ends of the connector.

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Ivan claims that it was securely fastened and clicked and that he was using an older

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modDIY third-party cable. ModDIY has released a statement that you should upgrade to the latest 12-volt 2x6 cables for

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RTX 50 series cards. YouTuber ToroTochio released a video on February 9th claiming that the wiring burned due to

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a bad connection because of wear on the 12-volt high-power connector states that the power

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supply was very used. Their Bauer has tested one Founders Edition card with one Corsair cable and says that

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there was uneven current distribution across each pin.

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This is where things start to get a little bit complicated, and where things start to

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get a little bit drama-y.

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The connector is rated for 9.5 amps per power pin and one amp per signal pin.

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Their Bauer saw readings over 9.5 amps, in fact in his first video he saw over 20 amps

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on one wire. Then Johnny Guru, who works at Corsair and used to be the power supply-reviewing guy

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back before he worked at Corsair, said that was impossible.

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In their Bauer's second video, he said, I will show you what is possible and cut 4 wires

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while the card was under load, measuring about 50 amps between the remaining 2 wires, demonstrating

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that while that is not in fact something that you should do and is not representative of

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a real-world situation, hopefully, that it can in fact run more than 9.5 amps over one

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wire. He said that it still worked because the sensing pins only check to see if the sensing pins

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are plugged in and if they are, the card will try to draw whatever power it's supposed to.

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It doesn't check how many power pins are connected and you can see that about 12 minutes

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into his video if you check for yourself. Dan, do you want to throw that in the various chats?

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It's the one that's hyperlinked in our notes here.

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He then plugged in a new undamaged 12-volt high power cable from Corsair and the load

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was distributed evenly. So what he has kind of shown kind of validates what some others have said and that is that

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this might just come down to bad cables, but what he has also shown is that there's still

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a problem because you can't guarantee... One quick set.

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Did you say that he cut the cables while it was under load? That's what my notes say.

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People are saying that it was... Oh, sorry. He cut the 4 wires and then...

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Sorry, sorry, sorry. No, no, no. Not while it was actually on.

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That would be crazy. Let's back up a bit. He cut the 4 wires and then measured the remaining 2 wires with a current clamp while it was

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under load. Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry. That's cool.

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Good. So, he's demonstrated two things.

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One, that the issue could very well be, you know, bad cables, not necessarily bad cards,

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but also that it seems to go a little bit deeper than that because if a card that is

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good can't tell that a cable is bad, well, that could be an issue, couldn't it?

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So this is where the plot thickens. Roman goes on to say, as Mr. Bauer Roman, that this wasn't a problem on the 3090TI because

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it had monitoring and load balancing built in to its power delivery design while 40 and

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50 series cards do not. More on this from Buildzoid later.

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Some others have sort of weighed in, Falcon Northwest or Adamant, they haven't seen any

00:19:51.580 --> 00:19:55.420
issues in the systems they've been building and testing with similar equipment, but according

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to Buildzoid, with the 30 series, there were 3 shunt resistors and 3 power phases similar

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to how a 3 by 8 pin system would work. While with the 4090 and 5090, they only have two shunt resistors and one power phase.

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So the way to kind of explain this is that the 5090 has no way of knowing or monitoring

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which of the 12 volt cables that are plugged into it is actually bringing the power into

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the board. They all just join on the board.

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So all it knows is, hey, I'm getting power.

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And you might think, okay, well a simple solution to this would be for NVIDIA to put some kind

00:20:41.260 --> 00:20:46.820
of thermal probe on the connector side of the card, but the problem is that these are

00:20:46.820 --> 00:20:54.780
toasty cards. You'd be getting so much heat off of the GPU and the memory and the VRMs that could potentially

00:20:54.780 --> 00:20:59.300
tell those thermal probes, oh yeah, everything's running really hot, that they wouldn't be

00:20:59.300 --> 00:21:05.300
able to tell if it's because the cable that's plugged right into it is on the verge of melting

00:21:05.300 --> 00:21:09.300
or if it's just that the card runs pretty freaking hot because it's a 5090.

00:21:14.300 --> 00:21:19.540
Yeah, I don't know, do we have our CT scanner time?

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Oh, okay, hold on a second, blah, blah, blah, NVIDIA for their part, I did reach out, NVIDIA

00:21:25.900 --> 00:21:31.580
has said, well, here's the situation, we don't, I'm paraphrasing here because this is not

00:21:31.580 --> 00:21:36.180
like official, but they're basically like, we don't have any of these cards back yet.

00:21:36.180 --> 00:21:42.060
We need them back so that we can do failure analysis on them, and that's fair enough.

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But I am sort of worried for NVIDIA's sake here that when they get them back, what they're

00:21:48.460 --> 00:21:55.820
going to find is that if someone plugs in a defective or poorly positioned poorly seated

00:21:55.820 --> 00:22:02.900
cable, that they have not built the appropriate mitigations into this card and it could continue

00:22:02.900 --> 00:22:08.860
to be a problem. They do say that very few cards have been impacted, but that doesn't mean that very

00:22:08.860 --> 00:22:15.540
few cards will ever be impacted. Okay, oh, this is awesome, so it's CT scanner time.

00:22:15.580 --> 00:22:23.300
We CT scanned a 3090 Founders Edition, a 4090 Founders Edition, and a 5090 Founders Edition.

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Below are the scans, they will all have a bookmark in the bottom left panel called 12

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will high power connections, which will show the connections to the board.

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Okay, these scans are 10 out of 10, but I took bad screenshots in a Google Drive here.

00:22:35.220 --> 00:22:40.140
You can't quite make out PCB components. All right, so I am seeing these for the first time because they've been working on this

00:22:40.140 --> 00:22:43.620
in the lead up to WAN Show. So good luck, everybody.

00:22:44.260 --> 00:22:47.500
Oh, these are going to take a minute to load. So here's a 3090.

00:22:47.500 --> 00:22:51.260
Mine has maybe loaded faster. Okay, let's go over to Luke's screen.

00:22:55.180 --> 00:23:00.780
And basically, what we're looking at is this one looks like it's split into two groups.

00:23:03.980 --> 00:23:07.060
There should be a bookmark. A view.

00:23:07.060 --> 00:23:11.420
Here, front view PCB, paper chamber.

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This is the power connectors. Yeah, good.

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Yeah, you want to flip it over?

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Traces, pads. Oh, here. There we go.

00:23:30.860 --> 00:23:35.020
No, not that one. I don't think so. Okay, go back to the 12 volt high power.

00:23:36.020 --> 00:23:42.260
Okay, I got someone in chat saying that looks like three shunt resistors to me.

00:23:42.260 --> 00:23:47.900
The claim from Buildzoid is that 3090 should have three.

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So I guess that lines up. Okay. Okay.

00:23:51.300 --> 00:23:54.980
All right, now let's go to the 4090. Have you opened that one already?

00:23:54.980 --> 00:24:00.020
No. I'll click it now. Man, I love this CT scanner.

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This is so cool. I'm going to preload 5090.

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Okay, we're coming back to my screen.

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Yeah, NEAT is definitely an understatement. It takes a hot minute to load.

00:24:17.020 --> 00:24:23.540
Just give us a sec. Yeah, sorry guys. This is a really rough scan, but the pins are separate at least from the connectors.

00:24:23.540 --> 00:24:27.620
What are our notes say here? That is a pretty rough scan.

00:24:27.620 --> 00:24:30.620
Okay. There we go.

00:24:30.620 --> 00:24:32.620
Where's our...

00:24:33.620 --> 00:24:35.620
Okay, so this one...

00:24:40.620 --> 00:24:43.620
Yeah, that is a much rougher scan.

00:24:51.620 --> 00:24:55.180
Well, let's turn our attention to the 5090, because Lucas showed me this one before the

00:24:55.180 --> 00:24:56.620
show.

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Okay. So, this is the...

00:25:01.620 --> 00:25:05.620
Oh, do you want to do mine? I have it already. Yeah, go for it.

00:25:06.620 --> 00:25:14.620
So, here the issue is that the connections are all just tied together into a single bus.

00:25:14.620 --> 00:25:22.620
So, what Lucas was showing me before is that basically all the 12 volt pins just go into

00:25:22.620 --> 00:25:30.620
a single power plane, and all of the ground pins just go into a single ground plane.

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So, what this means is that the board has no way of knowing which pin is carrying all

00:25:37.940 --> 00:25:44.580
the power in. So, if one of them has a poor connection, one pin has a poor connection, then what will

00:25:44.580 --> 00:25:52.740
happen is that pin will heat up. The more it heats up, the higher the resistance goes, the worse the situation gets.

00:25:52.740 --> 00:25:56.860
Then you can have the connector start to melt, which obviously is not good for the contact

00:25:56.860 --> 00:26:03.260
of the pins, and all the while, all the card will see is, I am getting power.

00:26:11.260 --> 00:26:18.260
Not good. Eseret in the Floatplane chat says, blindness.

00:26:18.260 --> 00:26:24.260
So, if you have common power planes, why use a connector that is prone to differential

00:26:24.260 --> 00:26:27.260
amperage due to resistance?

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Well, let me tell you, you'll have to ask NVIDIA that.

00:26:37.260 --> 00:26:40.260
Their board partners don't appear to be doing so.

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Odzoid's diagram shows that the RTX 4090 matrix and 5090 astral both actually use a different

00:26:48.380 --> 00:26:54.940
approach that would allow it to detect if one of the pins is carrying too much amperage.

00:26:54.940 --> 00:26:59.540
This doesn't look great.

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The only defense that I can see for NVIDIA in all of this is that this power connector

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is technically part of the CM5 industry standard and should be safe at power levels up to 600

00:27:11.180 --> 00:27:19.180
watts. But here's the thing, Luke, I remember back when we transitioned to this thing with several

00:27:19.180 --> 00:27:26.820
people. I've had this conversation several times. I believe we've also talked about it on WAN Show.

00:27:26.820 --> 00:27:33.300
With my limited understanding of electrical engineering and electronics engineering.

00:27:33.300 --> 00:27:43.220
What I know is that more surface area, more the better when it comes to mating surfaces

00:27:43.220 --> 00:27:47.780
for an electrical connection.

00:27:47.780 --> 00:27:53.980
Why was it that when NVIDIA recognized that we were moving to a point where GPUs were

00:27:53.980 --> 00:27:57.620
going to require more and more power?

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What possessed them to go for smaller little tiny pins instead of the big pins we had already?

00:28:07.260 --> 00:28:15.180
I still don't understand that and I have yet to have anybody explain it to me.

00:28:15.180 --> 00:28:24.580
If we moved, say, to 24 volts at the same time, sure, I'd be far less concerned.

00:28:24.580 --> 00:28:31.580
But we didn't.

00:28:31.580 --> 00:28:37.900
NVIDIA is the one entity other than Intel, sure, Intel as well.

00:28:37.900 --> 00:28:47.060
NVIDIA and Intel are the two entities that can sort of just declare that we are going

00:28:47.060 --> 00:28:50.380
to use a new connector.

00:28:50.380 --> 00:28:53.380
They need some... We'll do that. Historically, maybe.

00:28:53.380 --> 00:28:57.860
They are the maintainers of the ATX spec, so there is that.

00:28:57.860 --> 00:29:04.580
Historically, then, Intel and NVIDIA to just unilaterally make a decision that we're going

00:29:04.580 --> 00:29:09.140
to use this connector now. They could have decided on any connector.

00:29:09.140 --> 00:29:13.420
They could have designed, with a consortium or with some input from others, they could

00:29:13.420 --> 00:29:22.420
have designed their own connector. We could have gone with some variant of the larger older style pins that are also used

00:29:22.420 --> 00:29:27.060
in CPU power connectors, EPS, ATX, 12 volt, all that stuff.

00:29:27.060 --> 00:29:32.340
They could have used those same pins and receptacles and they could have added the sensing wires

00:29:32.340 --> 00:29:38.420
that are actually a pretty cool part of the spec because as long as people don't just

00:29:38.420 --> 00:29:43.220
jumper them to fool them, theoretically, they communicate between the power supply and the

00:29:43.220 --> 00:29:49.500
GPU so that you don't have a mismatch where you've got a super hungry GPU and an inadequate

00:29:49.500 --> 00:29:52.620
power supply. That's the theory behind it.

00:29:52.620 --> 00:29:59.420
But the whole thing where the new connector was rated for more than the old connector,

00:29:59.420 --> 00:30:05.860
to my monkey brain, I'm kind of looking at it going, why?

00:30:05.860 --> 00:30:16.220
Yeah, why was that? Why exactly was that when you've got this obvious potential issue here?

00:30:16.220 --> 00:30:20.580
SuperWisk says, why not just have a connector with two giant spades if it's going to be

00:30:20.580 --> 00:30:24.180
that way on the inside? Yes.

00:30:24.180 --> 00:30:27.180
I kind of... Yeah.

00:30:27.180 --> 00:30:35.220
I can't claim to know. So much of this is just like, it seems obvious to me, but I don't know a lot about this.

00:30:35.220 --> 00:30:38.220
So I'm assuming there's got to be something else going on.

00:30:38.220 --> 00:30:44.740
Like I bought a bunch of these, RC, LiPo battery connectors.

00:30:44.740 --> 00:30:51.020
I forget what they're called. Yeah, XT60s and XT90s.

00:30:51.020 --> 00:30:55.980
If you're going to design the card like that, why don't we just use these?

00:30:55.980 --> 00:30:59.540
These things are sick. Very chunky. These things are great.

00:30:59.540 --> 00:31:05.460
And they won't... Yeah. Now, J5 says the XT60 connector can do 30 amps at 500 volts.

00:31:05.460 --> 00:31:11.220
Yeah. Why don't we just use that? Because like, yeah, you're going to have the same issue where if it's not connected properly

00:31:11.220 --> 00:31:16.700
or whatever, then you could... No, you won't have the same issue because you've just got two giant pins.

00:31:16.700 --> 00:31:22.340
Giant. Just plug in just fine really. So you can't have one pin have a bad connection and then...

00:31:22.340 --> 00:31:25.420
There's a good amount of space separation between those two. Yeah.

00:31:25.420 --> 00:31:28.420
Why don't we just use that? Yeah. Why don't we just use that?

00:31:28.420 --> 00:31:31.420
Yeah. Why don't we just use that? Yeah.

00:31:31.780 --> 00:31:34.780
Okay. There. All right.

00:31:34.780 --> 00:31:39.380
There. That's the LTT solution. We're going to move away from the old PCIe connectors.

00:31:39.380 --> 00:31:44.340
We're going to move away from 12 volt high power. We're going to move away from...

00:31:44.340 --> 00:31:49.260
We're going to move away from all this stuff and we're going to go to XT60s.

00:31:49.260 --> 00:31:52.300
We're not going to have protections on it anyway, then we might as well just have a

00:31:52.300 --> 00:31:56.220
big old... I mean, look, why don't we just go for a wall outlet?

00:31:56.220 --> 00:32:00.380
I think it would look kind of cool. Let's just plug it straight into the wall. I mean, there was tons of memes about that.

00:32:00.380 --> 00:32:05.460
Yeah. There was tons of them, especially if you can plug that wall outlet in on the back

00:32:05.460 --> 00:32:14.660
of your computer. You know, when they have these bridging PCBs like they do on the dual flow through design,

00:32:14.660 --> 00:32:21.420
you could move the plug lower in the case. Tynan says you're still in trouble, Linus, because the current into a 5090 is like 50

00:32:21.420 --> 00:32:29.420
amps. Okay, Tynan, I will see your 50 amps and I will raise you one XT60 connector, dual

00:32:29.420 --> 00:32:34.620
XT60 connector. It's almost like we had a solution for this before, where you just have multiple connectors

00:32:34.620 --> 00:32:37.820
if you need more current. We could also just go to XT90.

00:32:37.820 --> 00:32:43.060
How many amps can XT90 do? Hold on, XT... That thing is chonk.

00:32:43.060 --> 00:32:46.500
That thing's chonk. Are they safe for... Ah!

00:32:46.500 --> 00:32:49.540
Ah! The rated current is just 40 amps.

00:32:49.540 --> 00:32:56.900
However, the response on ESK8 forum says I wouldn't worry about drawing more than that.

00:32:57.900 --> 00:33:02.500
Someone else says they're spec'ed at 90 amps for the applicable RC power range, which is

00:33:02.500 --> 00:33:07.100
generally low voltages of 11 to 24. Okay, so why don't we just go to XT90?

00:33:07.100 --> 00:33:11.740
What about something like speak on? Have you seen a speak on connector?

00:33:11.740 --> 00:33:15.740
You're going to have to give me the spelling. Speak on, one word.

00:33:15.740 --> 00:33:19.700
Oh, okay, sure. I think I found it. I mean, yeah.

00:33:19.700 --> 00:33:23.580
I'm down. They just twist lock in and click. Let's go.

00:33:23.580 --> 00:33:26.580
And you can get professional ones. These are actually huge.

00:33:26.580 --> 00:33:29.580
Over six dollars and 25 cents. These are enormous.

00:33:29.580 --> 00:33:32.580
No problem. These are so big.

00:33:32.580 --> 00:33:37.660
That'll be your 6090. Let's connect a water hose to my graphics card.

00:33:37.660 --> 00:33:40.660
Pretty much. I just... I don't know, man.

00:33:40.660 --> 00:33:43.660
I... NVIDIA might have some defense for this.

00:33:43.660 --> 00:33:52.380
I don't know what it'll be, but I just don't... I just don't see how after all this drama, it just didn't seem obvious that these are

00:33:52.380 --> 00:33:56.020
fragile little pins and we just, like, shouldn't.

00:33:56.020 --> 00:34:03.580
And again, I'm not an engineer, but it just seems obvious, and it's one of those things

00:34:03.580 --> 00:34:09.660
where not only does it seem obvious, because sometimes science is a funny little bit sometimes,

00:34:09.660 --> 00:34:14.900
where something can seem very obvious to the lay person, but when you get into the actual

00:34:14.900 --> 00:34:20.140
science of it, that seemingly obvious explanation is totally stupid, right?

00:34:20.140 --> 00:34:25.820
But not only did this seem obvious at the time, but it has worked out that it was bad.

00:34:26.140 --> 00:34:31.180
We have seen in the real world that we should just... Can we just stop?

00:34:31.180 --> 00:34:35.020
Is that an option? Like maybe NVIDIA could just...

00:34:35.020 --> 00:34:42.020
This would be a great mitigation. NVIDIA could call up all their partners tomorrow and say, hey, f*** it.

00:34:42.020 --> 00:34:45.460
Put whatever power connectors you want on the new card designs.

00:34:45.460 --> 00:34:48.460
Yeah. We're... We're...

00:34:48.460 --> 00:34:53.940
We're over it. We're over it. So they can keep this with their FEs, but everybody else can move on?

00:34:53.980 --> 00:34:59.540
Because every power supply still needs to have PCIe power connectors on it for older GPUs

00:34:59.540 --> 00:35:06.220
and for AMD GPUs. AMD hasn't adopted the standard and neither has Intel, who maybe even is a relevant player

00:35:06.220 --> 00:35:14.180
at this point. Maybe. So two of the three relevant players in discrete GPUs have not adopted the 12V high

00:35:14.180 --> 00:35:18.740
power or 12V 2x6.

00:35:18.740 --> 00:35:24.820
So it's not like the whole industry moved on and, oh my goodness, everyone who bought

00:35:24.820 --> 00:35:29.420
a power supply in the last couple of years, it's a brick now because they're not going

00:35:29.420 --> 00:35:34.340
to be able to plug in the RTX 6090 or whatever. No, everyone still has PCIe power connectors.

00:35:34.340 --> 00:35:40.660
So NVIDIA just... They could call up all their partners and just say, okay, f*** it.

00:35:40.660 --> 00:35:46.780
Forget it. Use whatever you want. We're going to do our thing or whatever because all the power supplies still support this

00:35:46.820 --> 00:35:52.500
connector. Or better yet, we could just not.

00:35:52.500 --> 00:35:59.660
Sorry that we were such control freaks about this. Maybe we shouldn't have been because this honestly didn't work out too good.

00:35:59.660 --> 00:36:03.460
Speaking about calling people. I called the guy.

00:36:03.460 --> 00:36:07.020
You called the guy. I did call the guy. So I made some notes.

00:36:07.020 --> 00:36:13.820
I made some notes. And look, look, the guy is under no obligation to help me with any of this and it was extremely

00:36:13.860 --> 00:36:19.820
gracious of him to give me some of his time, you know, not everything that I wouldn't hold

00:36:19.820 --> 00:36:28.180
him to anything that he said, but he definitely gave me some valuable, valuable information.

00:36:28.180 --> 00:36:34.780
So the first thing he told me is that this particular vessel has been for sale for he

00:36:34.780 --> 00:36:40.460
thinks possibly much longer than 23 weeks.

00:36:40.460 --> 00:36:50.020
That ain't a good sign. Yeah. Especially if you factor in that it supposedly got a complete refit in 2016 and was nicely

00:36:50.020 --> 00:36:57.900
updated in 2022. That seems to suggest that very shortly after it was nicely updated, they attempted to sell

00:36:57.900 --> 00:37:04.180
it, which either tells us that the update didn't go so good or it tells us that they

00:37:04.180 --> 00:37:11.460
updated it to sell, which is not, I mean, you've shopped for a house before as have

00:37:11.540 --> 00:37:18.620
I. Tell me this, riddle me this, do you want the house that got an update to prepare it

00:37:18.620 --> 00:37:21.620
for sale? No. No.

00:37:21.620 --> 00:37:24.620
What did you cover up? Why did you cover it up? Why did you paint it?

00:37:24.620 --> 00:37:28.740
Yeah. What is that paint hiding? What is hiding under there?

00:37:28.740 --> 00:37:35.340
Show me. Okay. So that isn't good.

00:37:35.340 --> 00:37:40.660
The other challenge that he brought up to me is, okay, so he also validated that my

00:37:40.740 --> 00:37:47.060
assumption, that part of the issue with this ship is that anyone who can afford a vessel

00:37:47.060 --> 00:37:51.580
of this magnitude, like here, here, look, guys, just for perspective, okay?

00:37:51.580 --> 00:37:55.420
I know 123 feet doesn't mean anything to a lot of you because you're European, you

00:37:55.420 --> 00:38:01.420
sensible units, right? So let me put it, let me just put it in context, okay?

00:38:01.420 --> 00:38:06.500
The size of this, of this vessel, see these, see this up here?

00:38:06.500 --> 00:38:13.180
See these little like yellow and green things up here? These basically dots.

00:38:13.180 --> 00:38:19.300
That's this. That's a whole like barbecue area.

00:38:19.300 --> 00:38:23.540
This thing is freaking huge.

00:38:23.540 --> 00:38:31.500
It is enormous. And he validated for me that my assumption that part of the issue with selling it is

00:38:31.500 --> 00:38:37.260
that anyone who could afford the upkeep for this thing could afford a newer ship.

00:38:37.260 --> 00:38:41.420
And he also pointed out, even though I hadn't really thought of this, that anybody looking

00:38:41.420 --> 00:38:47.980
to charter a vessel of this size with that kind of budget, they might want something

00:38:47.980 --> 00:38:51.220
newer too. Now, I think we could get around some of that.

00:38:51.220 --> 00:38:56.140
If the idea was that we reno it, we like turn it into the gaming yacht.

00:38:56.140 --> 00:38:59.220
I think that would be a pretty unique selling point and people aren't going to check if

00:38:59.220 --> 00:39:04.820
it was built in 1990 or 2090. I don't think it'll really matter if it's got all that stuff on board.

00:39:04.820 --> 00:39:08.740
I would care if it was built in 2090. Well, okay. Yeah, fair enough.

00:39:08.740 --> 00:39:12.180
I would care a lot. I meant like in the future. I would charter that boat, I think.

00:39:12.180 --> 00:39:20.500
That's fair. So the point is just that, you know, it could impact not only our ability to sell it when

00:39:20.500 --> 00:39:26.100
we're done, but it could also impact our ability to get any revenue out of it once we've finished

00:39:26.100 --> 00:39:33.580
our renovation. So we might end up buying this thing as a project and just completely being out that

00:39:33.580 --> 00:39:37.100
money with absolutely nobody wanting to use it.

00:39:37.100 --> 00:39:40.220
And I got to be honest with you guys.

00:39:40.220 --> 00:39:43.980
Does this look like canned skin?

00:39:43.980 --> 00:39:49.500
Do I look like I go outside, hang out on the water?

00:39:49.500 --> 00:39:54.220
Like I'm not, I'm not really a, I'm not really a boating guy.

00:39:54.220 --> 00:39:58.940
Right. Okay. Here's another sort of rough number that the guy gave me.

00:39:58.940 --> 00:40:02.660
He goes upkeep on a ship this size.

00:40:02.660 --> 00:40:08.740
They kind of say 10% of the value, but let me put it this way.

00:40:08.740 --> 00:40:17.460
That ship is listed for about 1.6, 1.7 million US dollars and that's annually, 10% annually.

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So it's listed for 1.6, 1.7 million US dollars and you'd have to have at least two to three

00:40:24.660 --> 00:40:30.540
crew on it. And if you wanted to have like guests on board, it'd probably be more like five.

00:40:30.540 --> 00:40:36.780
So you've got your captain. You've got an engineer whose full-time job it is is to like take care of this ship.

00:40:36.780 --> 00:40:43.020
Keep the boat running. You have at least one more. And then for charters or whatever, you'd need a couple for, you know, serving and cleaning

00:40:43.020 --> 00:40:48.340
and stuff like that. Right. It's practically a floating like hotel, like yeah, presidential suite.

00:40:48.340 --> 00:40:51.340
Yeah. Like it's huge.

00:40:51.340 --> 00:40:56.980
So I think you guys probably have figured out the problem with that math then because

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10% of, you know, 1.7 million US dollars would be 170,000 US dollars.

00:41:02.340 --> 00:41:05.340
For five staff. For five staff. Have fun.

00:41:05.340 --> 00:41:08.460
Also, don't forget about, you know, regular cleaning of the ship itself.

00:41:08.460 --> 00:41:14.500
I'm not talking like cleaning the room and painting and, you know, dealing with it anytime

00:41:14.500 --> 00:41:21.780
something breaks. So 10% of the value, yeah, that's probably based more on 10% of the value like when it

00:41:21.780 --> 00:41:25.980
was valued like it was new, you know, not like today.

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So you could easily, easily be spending, you know, 30% of the value of this thing, 40%

00:41:34.940 --> 00:41:40.100
of the value of this thing a year, depending on whether something goes wrong.

00:41:40.100 --> 00:41:43.380
There's another big problem.

00:41:43.380 --> 00:41:47.100
Are you, are you waiting for the part where I talk about the good stuff? I know.

00:41:47.100 --> 00:41:50.500
I want to know what the next big problem is. Okay. All right.

00:41:50.500 --> 00:41:56.540
I feel like there's more than one more. Yeah. The next big problem is that it is 123 feet long.

00:41:56.540 --> 00:42:00.740
Why is that a problem? Where the hell are you going to park?

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Excuse me. I mean, moor it. Uh-huh.

00:42:03.740 --> 00:42:06.740
Right. It doesn't come with that, right? Well, it could.

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It could. He said he would reach out to the guy and find the other guy and find out if mooring

00:42:12.460 --> 00:42:20.420
is included. But what I can tell you now without naming anybody is I looked on the website of the

00:42:20.420 --> 00:42:27.740
place where it is moored today and I'm going to change a few details just because I don't

00:42:27.740 --> 00:42:32.580
want to like out a particular organization and their particular policies.

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But in order to even qualify, to have a conversation about mooring my boat there, I would have

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to have. Do you have to join the yacht club?

00:42:44.380 --> 00:42:49.660
No fewer than four references who can vouch for me.

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Wow. And I'm changing some numbers and changing some details because I don't want you guys

00:42:55.460 --> 00:43:01.900
going and bothering any. One of the most confusing things about obscenely high society to me is how many people are

00:43:01.900 --> 00:43:06.100
in it. Yeah. That's the weirdest thing.

00:43:06.100 --> 00:43:10.380
Yeah. Like you drive around BC and it's like, man. That's a nice car.

00:43:10.380 --> 00:43:15.740
What an incredibly high amount of like three to ten million dollar homes.

00:43:15.740 --> 00:43:19.420
Three to ten million, please. Let's go have a look at.

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Let's go have a look at Shaughnessy, a neighborhood in Vancouver, British Columbia.

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Here we go, boys. Oh boy. Meet Shaughnessy.

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In this neighborhood, three to five million dollars would buy you nothing.

00:43:34.580 --> 00:43:39.420
I feel you should realtor.ca it. Try 30 to 50 million dollars.

00:43:39.420 --> 00:43:43.620
30 to 50 and it's a whole like look at all of these portion of the city.

00:43:43.620 --> 00:43:46.620
Yeah. Like, like, okay. You can actually, you can see it.

00:43:46.620 --> 00:43:51.500
Oh, it's massive. You can see it from way out here because you got your, you got your actual like downtown

00:43:51.500 --> 00:43:59.620
density. You're like high rises and all that. You got your like urban, you got your urban density and then you got this that basically

00:43:59.620 --> 00:44:04.340
looks like, like fricking, what would I even compare it to?

00:44:04.340 --> 00:44:07.340
Yeah. It looks like, like Delta. Yeah.

00:44:07.340 --> 00:44:10.340
You know? But it's just right there. Smack in the middle.

00:44:10.340 --> 00:44:16.340
Smack in the middle. I've never looked at this. I don't know if I've ever been to that area to be honest.

00:44:17.060 --> 00:44:21.980
Have you driven past it? I have a relative that lives near there and when I say near there, I don't mean on one

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of the big plots. I mean, like in the density parts around it, in the city.

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And so just for a lull once, I was like, we should go, we should go drive through, we

00:44:32.300 --> 00:44:36.580
should go drive through. Dude, look how many of these places have pools.

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Look at the percentage of poolage here.

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We're in Vancouver and as someone who owns a pool, I was some private tennis courts.

00:44:45.580 --> 00:44:51.260
That's always a good sign. As someone who literally owns a pool, I will tell you owning a pool in Vancouver is fucking

00:44:51.260 --> 00:44:57.980
stupid. I kind of. For the, for the, a percentage of the time that you can actually use it out of the year,

00:44:57.980 --> 00:45:01.500
the amount of maintenance and cost is fucking stupid.

00:45:01.500 --> 00:45:05.060
Like it's, it's actually stupid. And look at this.

00:45:05.060 --> 00:45:08.060
Look at this neighborhood. Oh yeah. Right.

00:45:08.060 --> 00:45:11.660
So it's not just the pool. I mean, what is, what is this?

00:45:11.660 --> 00:45:16.340
What is this? Oh, if, if I bought this place, I would, I would, I would complete it.

00:45:16.340 --> 00:45:19.740
We'd have the square, the circle, the triangle and the X.

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I would fix that up for them real good.

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What is it? Is it space or shift? I can't, I can't remember.

00:45:26.420 --> 00:45:29.420
Space middle. I can never remember how to get to the other, to the other view on here, Ben.

00:45:29.420 --> 00:45:39.460
But like, man, these places are freaking wild. Like if you, if you have, you know, a, a, a tennis ball court behind your house and you're

00:45:39.460 --> 00:45:46.500
in Vancouver proper, like this land, this land right here for this tennis court is worth

00:45:46.500 --> 00:45:50.020
millions of dollars. I was going to say that alone is worth millions for sure.

00:45:50.020 --> 00:45:53.220
It is a millions of dollars tennis court. Sure.

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Flipping wild dude. No, it's not that one.

00:45:57.260 --> 00:46:00.420
It's the, it's the like change the camera angle one.

00:46:00.420 --> 00:46:03.420
I can never remember. There it is. Hey.

00:46:03.420 --> 00:46:06.900
Oh yeah. Dude. So that gives you just like density differences.

00:46:06.900 --> 00:46:10.140
Wild. Compared to like right next to it.

00:46:10.140 --> 00:46:16.580
Huh. Look at this. You just cross our beauties and it's like, yeah, we like our privacy.

00:46:16.580 --> 00:46:19.580
We like all our trees. Look at this. Look at this.

00:46:19.580 --> 00:46:22.580
Wow. Glencroft house. What else is in here?

00:46:22.580 --> 00:46:25.580
Ah, yes. Canuck place. Actually, that's a good organization.

00:46:25.580 --> 00:46:28.580
Sing doc monastery association. Very best, very best roof. What the, what is that?

00:46:28.580 --> 00:46:31.580
What is very best roof? Roofing contractor.

00:46:31.580 --> 00:46:34.580
Five stars. All right. Well, I guess they have the very best roof.

00:46:34.580 --> 00:46:39.580
Good for them. Um, how did we get onto this conversation? Uh, you guys want to see some Shaughnessy houses?

00:46:39.580 --> 00:46:42.580
It has something to do with the yacht. Oh yeah.

00:46:42.580 --> 00:46:45.580
That's right. I was talking about the tech yacht. Okay.

00:46:45.580 --> 00:46:48.580
I'm not. Oh, how many people you need to know to get your mooring? Oh yeah.

00:46:48.580 --> 00:46:51.580
And then I pointed out that like, you know, it's like, you know, it's like, you know, it's like, you know, it's like, you know, it's like, you know, it's like, you know, it's like, you know, it's like, you know, it's like, you know, it's like, you know,

00:46:52.580 --> 00:46:55.580
Oh yeah. That's right. I was talking about the tech yacht.

00:46:55.580 --> 00:46:58.580
Okay. Oh, how many people you need to know to get your mooring? Oh yeah.

00:46:58.580 --> 00:47:02.580
And then I pointed out that like, it's crazy how many incredibly rich people there are.

00:47:02.580 --> 00:47:05.580
That's the thing that always surprises me.

00:47:05.580 --> 00:47:08.580
What do you mean? Okay.

00:47:08.580 --> 00:47:11.580
Do you guys want, do you guys want to see some houses in Shaughnessy? Do they care?

00:47:11.580 --> 00:47:14.580
Are they still into just like our overpriced real estate?

00:47:14.580 --> 00:47:17.580
I think it's funny. I think it's really funny. All right.

00:47:17.580 --> 00:47:20.580
Cool. Let's do it. Let's do it.

00:47:20.580 --> 00:47:26.580
I know this is super generic, but I showed, I showed Emma recently some, some Texas mansions

00:47:26.580 --> 00:47:32.580
that are, I would like make a lot of money selling my apartment and buying.

00:47:32.580 --> 00:47:36.580
Oh yeah. And it was just like, what the heck?

00:47:36.580 --> 00:47:41.580
Dude, there is not a single house for sale in Shaughnessy right now.

00:47:41.580 --> 00:47:45.580
Do they, do they sell it in some other way? No, no, no, no people.

00:47:45.580 --> 00:47:49.580
No, normally there's, normally there's definitely stuff in here, but this is, it's not loading

00:47:49.580 --> 00:47:54.580
anything. Oh. No, that's not in like the rich part of Shaughnessy.

00:47:54.580 --> 00:47:58.580
No, there's like, there's like, yeah, this is, this is nothing.

00:47:58.580 --> 00:48:01.580
Back. That is very surprising to me.

00:48:01.580 --> 00:48:04.580
Do I have like, do I have filters on or something? I don't think so.

00:48:04.580 --> 00:48:08.580
You know what it is though. You know what I bet it is.

00:48:08.580 --> 00:48:12.580
There's been, I wouldn't call it a crash yet, but there's certainly been a correction.

00:48:12.580 --> 00:48:23.580
There's been a downturn. Yeah. There's been finally a correction in Vancouver real estate and even as someone that is significantly

00:48:23.580 --> 00:48:28.580
invested in Vancouver real estate, I have been rooting for this for a long time because

00:48:28.580 --> 00:48:35.580
it is not good for our society, for nobody to be able to afford somewhere to live.

00:48:35.580 --> 00:48:38.580
It is deeply broken up here. Yeah.

00:48:39.580 --> 00:48:43.580
It hasn't gone down enough yet, but it has changed a little.

00:48:43.580 --> 00:48:50.580
And people who own 25, 30, 40 million dollar houses are the kind of people that aren't necessarily

00:48:50.580 --> 00:48:55.580
under any pressure to sell when the market isn't good, when the market's not right.

00:48:55.580 --> 00:49:01.580
So if I had to guess, I would say that nobody is selling right now in there because...

00:49:01.580 --> 00:49:04.580
I think we've got some. Oh, we've got one. I think yours just wasn't working.

00:49:04.580 --> 00:49:07.580
Oh, what's wrong with my realtor.ca then? I'm not sure.

00:49:07.580 --> 00:49:12.580
Oh, here we go, boys. I've got a few. 12, 63, Balfour Avenue.

00:49:12.580 --> 00:49:17.580
26. 26. Now, these are Canadian rubles.

00:49:17.580 --> 00:49:26.580
So like 30 bucks, but still. So we're looking at about 17 million US dollars, 16, 17 million US dollars.

00:49:26.580 --> 00:49:33.580
Only fairly recently though. Like last year, a year before, it would have been a lot more.

00:49:33.580 --> 00:49:38.580
I, too, like a glass vessel on my table with a lazy Susan.

00:49:38.580 --> 00:49:42.580
I prefer that. Look at this room.

00:49:42.580 --> 00:49:45.580
What color would you like it? Wood.

00:49:45.580 --> 00:49:48.580
How much wood? Yes. Okay, sure.

00:49:48.580 --> 00:49:53.580
If they had more plant instead of one plant, I think it could work pretty well.

00:49:53.580 --> 00:49:56.580
Oh, yes. Sorry, this one. The indoor pool.

00:49:56.580 --> 00:49:59.580
Also has a pool, but we didn't like it outdoors. And the indoor hot tub.

00:49:59.580 --> 00:50:06.580
Because Linus said it was f***ing stupid. So we put it indoors where we can use it all year round.

00:50:06.580 --> 00:50:09.580
Oh, man.

00:50:09.580 --> 00:50:15.580
Jeez. It looks like it's, you know, in the country or whatever.

00:50:15.580 --> 00:50:18.580
But this is in the city city.

00:50:18.580 --> 00:50:23.580
Yeah. How much land do you get for 26 million or whatever that was?

00:50:23.580 --> 00:50:26.580
Oh, just like land land? Yeah, like what's the lot?

00:50:26.580 --> 00:50:31.580
I don't know. It depends. Dude, I missed that.

00:50:31.580 --> 00:50:35.580
I don't remember. Compare that to a $17 million US super mansion.

00:50:35.580 --> 00:50:38.580
Yeah, dude. Oh, yeah.

00:50:38.580 --> 00:50:42.580
Dude, Vancouver is... Comparing it to like...

00:50:42.580 --> 00:50:45.580
Pretty rough. Yeah, like almost anywhere, man.

00:50:45.580 --> 00:50:48.580
It's crazy. Okay, get this. I don't know how we're all still here.

00:50:48.580 --> 00:50:51.580
Get this. Okay.

00:50:51.580 --> 00:50:55.580
Yeah, you're not looking. Okay. How big do you think the lot is?

00:50:55.580 --> 00:50:59.580
From my perceptions, it didn't, it looked like it was a tight wrap around the house.

00:50:59.580 --> 00:51:02.580
I don't think it was a huge lot, but I could be completely wrong.

00:51:02.580 --> 00:51:05.580
Let's say 9,000 square feet.

00:51:05.580 --> 00:51:08.580
Oh, no, you'd be pleasantly surprised.

00:51:08.580 --> 00:51:11.580
It's more than that? Oh, yeah. How big was the house?

00:51:11.580 --> 00:51:15.580
The house is over 10,000 square feet.

00:51:15.580 --> 00:51:22.580
Well, okay. That is an enormous house. So I think part of the problem of your perception of, or your ability to estimate it here is

00:51:22.580 --> 00:51:25.580
that... That's a massive house. You know, a few of the rooms.

00:51:25.580 --> 00:51:28.580
You're right. So you didn't really have anything for scale.

00:51:28.580 --> 00:51:31.580
And that's an old neighborhood. Those are big trees. Right, right, right, right.

00:51:31.580 --> 00:51:35.580
So you didn't really have, I think, a sense of the proper scale of this house.

00:51:35.580 --> 00:51:38.580
It better be an acre. It's not an acre. Somebody says two acres.

00:51:38.580 --> 00:51:44.580
It is not two acres. Okay. I would think it would be a stretch if it's more than 15,000 square feet.

00:51:44.580 --> 00:51:48.580
Okay. Dan, what do you think? I'm going to probably say half an acre.

00:51:48.580 --> 00:51:51.580
You'll say half an acre. Half an acre. All right.

00:51:51.580 --> 00:51:55.580
Luke is the closest without going over. It's 17,900 square feet.

00:51:55.580 --> 00:51:58.580
I'm pretty close. Yeah. How many square foot's half an acre?

00:51:58.580 --> 00:52:01.580
About 20,000. 20 something. Okay.

00:52:01.580 --> 00:52:04.580
Yeah. Yeah. Maybe a little bit less.

00:52:04.580 --> 00:52:07.580
He said without going over. So it's not really fair. I think it's pretty close.

00:52:07.580 --> 00:52:10.580
Yeah. Well, it's all these prices right rules. I don't make the rules.

00:52:10.580 --> 00:52:13.580
I don't make the rules. I think it's pretty close in between. Bob Barker makes the rules.

00:52:13.580 --> 00:52:21.220
Anyway, that's been listed for 84 days. So clearly nobody's buying it for that price, but it also is not outlandish for what you

00:52:21.220 --> 00:52:24.220
see things priced for in that neighborhood. It's flipping. It's flipping wild, dude.

00:52:24.220 --> 00:52:30.220
It's flipping wild. All right. What else we got going on today?

00:52:30.220 --> 00:52:33.220
Merch messages. Yes. Merch messages.

00:52:33.220 --> 00:52:37.900
If you guys want to interact with the show, that's the perfect way to do it. We don't really do Twitch bits or super chats.

00:52:37.900 --> 00:52:41.500
We do merge messages. They will go to producer Dan.

00:52:41.500 --> 00:52:46.940
We brought him back who will, oh, who is going to be getting a lot of merge messages today

00:52:46.940 --> 00:52:50.840
because the keen item on you will have noticed this already.

00:52:50.840 --> 00:52:59.480
We launched not one, not two, but three new products today that are similar to but legally

00:52:59.480 --> 00:53:08.680
distinct from some inspiration that we got from a small software company, not small in

00:53:08.680 --> 00:53:14.440
a literal sense, small in a naming sense, like almost like maybe a little bit bigger

00:53:14.440 --> 00:53:17.840
than nano. Yeah. Yeah.

00:53:18.840 --> 00:53:22.840
Bigger than nano, but smaller than desa.

00:53:22.840 --> 00:53:26.360
Yeah. Real small.

00:53:26.360 --> 00:53:30.720
Small software company. We've got what we're calling.

00:53:30.720 --> 00:53:33.720
Hold on. Hold on. Here we go.

00:53:33.720 --> 00:53:36.720
Here we go. What we're calling the... Do we have a name for them?

00:53:36.720 --> 00:53:39.720
Sure. Okay. Yes.

00:53:39.720 --> 00:53:42.720
Yes. Yes. We've got names.

00:53:42.720 --> 00:53:52.680
Good. Okay. So we've got three new shirt designs starting with doors.

00:53:52.680 --> 00:53:57.440
So if you look very carefully, you'll notice that these are in fact doors.

00:53:57.440 --> 00:54:01.280
They actually have the handles on them. Of course they do because they're doors and not...

00:54:01.280 --> 00:54:05.000
You need one on a door. Because they're doors and not Windows and how else would you open them?

00:54:05.000 --> 00:54:11.000
Yeah. Okay. So we've got the doors design, which I am going to be modeling for the rest of the

00:54:11.000 --> 00:54:15.040
show. We've got the brick design.

00:54:15.040 --> 00:54:20.720
There you go. Comb that. Hold on a second.

00:54:20.720 --> 00:54:24.280
My notes went away. Accidentally bumped them. We've got the...

00:54:24.280 --> 00:54:27.800
Oh wait. We call this one maze. That one's called maze.

00:54:27.800 --> 00:54:32.400
Oh yes. Yes. And we've definitely added something to it.

00:54:32.400 --> 00:54:35.800
There's a kitty. What? Did you notice the kitty?

00:54:35.800 --> 00:54:38.800
Oh. Amazing. Oh.

00:54:38.800 --> 00:54:42.440
Get it? Oh my God. We're really good at this.

00:54:42.440 --> 00:54:46.240
So there's a little kitty that's there sometimes. Like there.

00:54:46.240 --> 00:54:49.240
Is that the only one? Oh there's more. Yeah.

00:54:49.240 --> 00:54:52.240
There's a little kitty here. Little kitties. They're there.

00:54:52.240 --> 00:54:55.240
They're in the maze. That genuinely adds a lot. Yeah.

00:54:55.240 --> 00:54:58.240
So there's a little kitty. That was a Lisa innovation, if I recall correctly. Transformative art.

00:54:58.240 --> 00:55:01.240
Yeah. On my left shoulder? Yeah.

00:55:01.240 --> 00:55:04.240
Yeah. I'm sure there's a kitty somewhere there. Yeah.

00:55:04.240 --> 00:55:07.240
Little kitty. Got a little kitty back there. There we go.

00:55:07.240 --> 00:55:12.680
And then we also have the pipes party shirt. So Dan is modeling that one.

00:55:12.680 --> 00:55:18.040
Let's go. If you look closely, you might find some fun Easter eggs in that one as well.

00:55:18.040 --> 00:55:21.120
But we'll let you guys sleuth them out.

00:55:21.120 --> 00:55:25.920
Not only are these S tier conversation starters, but they're made of a silky soft, breathable

00:55:25.920 --> 00:55:29.080
viscose fabric for all the comfort.

00:55:29.080 --> 00:55:33.440
They are available now at LMG.GG slash screensaver.

00:55:33.440 --> 00:55:36.440
I've got a little video to show you guys too. What?

00:55:36.440 --> 00:55:39.440
We've got a video? Yeah. Oh, right past that.

00:55:39.440 --> 00:55:42.440
Oh. Way to go Linus. Anyway, there's a.

00:55:42.440 --> 00:55:45.440
Sick. Yeah. Hell yeah.

00:55:45.440 --> 00:55:49.960
That looks, that looks like a real photo from like way back then.

00:55:49.960 --> 00:55:53.560
Oh my goodness. Oh, these all do. Okay.

00:55:53.560 --> 00:55:56.560
That's pretty cool. That's pretty cool.

00:55:56.560 --> 00:55:59.560
Dude, these are great. Oh my God. That's so amazing.

00:55:59.560 --> 00:56:04.680
They did a really good job of making it feel like from that time.

00:56:04.680 --> 00:56:08.840
This is so good. The red solo cups.

00:56:08.840 --> 00:56:11.840
Oh my goodness. Okay. All right, Dan, play the video.

00:56:11.840 --> 00:56:14.840
Let's do it. All right. Let's go back to you guys.

00:56:14.840 --> 00:56:17.840
You're here. Wow. LGT Store.com.

00:56:17.840 --> 00:56:30.840
Oh man. That's fantastic. When they pitched these in merge meeting, I was just like, oh my God.

00:56:31.840 --> 00:56:42.680
Oh man. That's fantastic. When they pitched these in merge meeting, I was just like, yes, now do it now.

00:56:42.680 --> 00:56:46.400
We'll also have some Floatplane exclusive behind the scenes of this photo shoot where

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we had a ton of fun building out a 90 style mom's basement set for the product shoot.

00:56:50.400 --> 00:56:53.400
I think you said we're going to have. I think they already have it. Oh, yeah.

00:56:53.400 --> 00:56:56.400
It's up. Oh, it's up now. Yeah.

00:56:56.400 --> 00:57:00.760
So there it is. It's up at LMG.gg slash Floatplane. It's 25 minutes long.

00:57:00.760 --> 00:57:06.000
Floatplane exclusive. People are loving it so far, 65 likes, zero dislikes.

00:57:06.000 --> 00:57:09.680
That went up, I guess, about an hour ago. Yeah, cool. Okay.

00:57:09.680 --> 00:57:12.680
Awesome. Great job to the team on getting this product launched.

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Yeah, I'm super stoked.

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I don't want to be like that about it, but guys, we have no idea how long this product

00:57:21.840 --> 00:57:29.440
will last. We have no idea if we will ever be able to print more of them.

00:57:29.440 --> 00:57:36.160
It's possible. It's possible that a really small, I mean, these are doors, software companies.

00:57:36.160 --> 00:57:40.480
These are doors could, I don't think they'd have a leg to stand on.

00:57:40.480 --> 00:57:44.400
These are doors and there's kitties in there. That's true.

00:57:44.400 --> 00:57:49.760
That there's one on my shoulder. It was up here. I mean, they were saying it was like on the band is just a depiction of the internet.

00:57:49.760 --> 00:57:53.200
Like my collar. That's just the internet. So I don't.

00:57:53.200 --> 00:57:58.520
That is a series of. We're going to get sued by Dan flashes, but I'm just, I'm just saying, I'm just saying

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that it is possible that if you want, it's too complicated, a conversation starter,

00:58:03.440 --> 00:58:06.680
party shirt, it's very similar to the original party shirt.

00:58:06.680 --> 00:58:10.840
So if you, if you guys liked that one, this is, this is that, but with a very, very cool

00:58:10.840 --> 00:58:12.520
modern design.

00:58:14.400 --> 00:58:18.840
Yeah, you should probably just, you should probably just order whichever ones you want and like, like do that.

00:58:18.840 --> 00:58:22.360
All right, well, what else are we supposed to do? Oh, right. We're supposed to do some merge messages.

00:58:22.360 --> 00:58:26.800
So you go on the store, you type in your merge message in the cart and it will go to

00:58:26.840 --> 00:58:32.320
producer Dan, who will read it, pop it up down here or even carried it for me and Luke

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to respond to. So Dan, you got a merge message or two for us.

00:58:35.360 --> 00:58:38.720
I do watch the behind the scenes video for these screensaver shirts.

00:58:38.960 --> 00:58:41.920
Do the older staff sometimes find it hard to relate to the younger staff?

00:58:42.400 --> 00:58:45.600
What do you do to try to keep yourself up to date with the current meta?

00:58:47.120 --> 00:58:50.200
Meta is an interesting choice there. A league player.

00:58:50.200 --> 00:58:52.720
Elijah hasn't watched The Lord of the Rings.

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I don't like learning things about that man.

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He hasn't, he hasn't seen it. He like knows a lot of iconic moments and stuff because of memes.

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Meanwhile, my family's starting our marathon this weekend.

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Yeah. So it's not just that there were different movies, you know,

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because I think when we were kids, our parents definitely listened to

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to different albums and they watched different movies,

00:59:20.720 --> 00:59:23.440
but they definitely listened to albums and they watched movies

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with some of the younger people that are joining the company now.

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Not all, but some of them. They literally don't watch movies like a whole movie.

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I've never heard of that. Oh, dude, it's just I'm probably very disconnected.

00:59:41.320 --> 00:59:44.600
It's just not their medium. The youth. So it's not their medium.

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Yeah, Artie, Artie's in the chat right now.

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It's a thing. My only exposure to the youth, really, is when I go to the gym.

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Sorry, can you mean watch one thing for two and a half hours?

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Yeah. What's I'm going to say? Yeah, can't they just sit on their phone while they watch, though?

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Don't they like watching two things? Like, I would think movies would almost be a good medium for them.

01:00:12.680 --> 01:00:15.280
But then you're. But yeah, that's just one thing.

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You sit on the couch on your phone while watching the movie for my doom

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scrolling. No, because movies require a level of cognitive engagement.

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I don't. Sorry, I disagree. You disagree. Yeah.

01:00:28.720 --> 01:00:32.120
As someone who grew up with their computer in the family room,

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who would leave one ear off so I could listen to the movie and watch

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sometimes during certain points and play games the other bit. OK, so I think there's a lot of movies that you could kind of enjoy like that.

01:00:42.720 --> 01:00:46.240
Like if you're watching Good Burger, sure, fine.

01:00:47.160 --> 01:00:52.960
There is a lot of movies like that. This is true. Actually, if we look at recently released movies over the last,

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honestly, six years, that's the vast majority of them.

01:00:56.800 --> 01:00:59.520
But we started this conversation with the Lord of the Rings.

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The Lord of the Rings, you got to die on it. That's not. You got to focus on.

01:01:03.360 --> 01:01:07.240
Now, what about reading the books? We talk about them not watching movies.

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Well, we'll get to that. We'll get to that. But first, no, I would make the argument that if you want to have any flipping idea,

01:01:13.880 --> 01:01:17.520
which one of the hobbits is the one that's obsessed with food and which one of

01:01:17.520 --> 01:01:20.400
them is the loyal one and which one cries a lot or whatever,

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you have to be somewhat paying attention because the Lord of the Rings has a lot of characters. I will agree.

01:01:25.640 --> 01:01:28.760
I will agree with Lord of the Rings. Yeah, I would I would want someone to pay attention.

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My firstborn didn't make it through the Fellowship of the Ring.

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How old was he when you try to do it? About a year ago.

01:01:37.160 --> 01:01:42.400
Oh, with that said, I probably made a significant tactical error.

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Did you over promise? I gave him the extended edition.

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Oh, they're worse movies. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

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At least you have one less kid. We will definitely be worried about the extended edition.

01:01:55.480 --> 01:02:00.640
And that's great. And that's fine. And I'm glad you love them. But they're pretty slow.

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Yeah, they're pretty slow. Oh, yeah, Linus cancels.

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Oh, bloody hell. I knew it was going to happen. I knew it was going to happen.

01:02:10.400 --> 01:02:14.320
It was prophesied. The books thing. Yeah. I mean, I think we've started with the books.

01:02:14.360 --> 01:02:18.920
Just to flex. So did I. I think we've talked about this on the Hobbit is what got me into reading at all.

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I didn't like it very much. And then Hobbit's sick. It started going with the Hobbit.

01:02:23.320 --> 01:02:26.440
Good to Tom Bombadil. I can't make it through Tom Bombadil.

01:02:26.440 --> 01:02:31.640
Best character. And nobody makes it through Tom Bombadil. There's people hitting Ivy League universities that have never read a book.

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Oh, I'm pretty sure we've talked about that on a land show. That's wild. Yeah. Yeah.

01:02:36.440 --> 01:02:41.000
Yeah, the the the prof will give them their like reading assignment for, you know, the first week or whatever.

01:02:41.000 --> 01:02:43.360
What? Like, and they're like, what? Like the whole thing?

01:02:44.280 --> 01:02:47.800
These days, honestly, I doubt they even say what. They just, you know, feed into chat,

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GPT or whatever, summarize this book for me, please.

01:02:52.080 --> 01:02:57.000
Thank you. I need talking points for an essay. Oh, good talking points.

01:02:57.000 --> 01:03:01.160
Please write that for me. You had to thank you. I had to do Machiavelli.

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If you had never read a book before, imagine coming out of that

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and thinking that this was a not a manual.

01:03:09.760 --> 01:03:13.360
Especially as a as a business major,

01:03:13.560 --> 01:03:15.960
everybody was like, this guy's got some really good points.

01:03:17.160 --> 01:03:20.480
I'm going to do all of this. Yikes.

01:03:24.080 --> 01:03:27.880
Machiavelli's in the new save game. Wait, did we ever actually finish the tech

01:03:27.880 --> 01:03:32.680
yacht conversation? I don't know. You had you went on to like mega mansions.

01:03:33.160 --> 01:03:37.480
OK. They are related. OK, there's a couple more things

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that I just want to wrap up on the tech yacht. Come back to this message.

01:03:40.480 --> 01:03:43.760
Yeah, we'll come we'll come back to it. Well, no, wait, did we answer this merge message?

01:03:43.760 --> 01:03:47.680
No, let's just finish the yacht and we'll come back and talk about this.

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I told you it's going to be a good show because.

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I allow this. I allow this. It's going to be fine. It is my design.

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Go back and talk about your boat, Linus.

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So the guy, the guy told me that, yes,

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it would be possible to haul it out of the water and dry dock it and work on it on land.

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He called it what do you call it on the hard?

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We could work on it on the hard. Oh, oh, yeah, this guy's a boat guy.

01:04:19.600 --> 01:04:23.320
I'm learning the land lover makes me feel good. I'm learning the lingo.

01:04:23.320 --> 01:04:27.480
So we could work on it on the hard. But he did say that it would be a lot cheaper

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to work on it just in the water. Yeah, because anything other than painting

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is probably cheaper to do in the water because they're going to bill you by the day

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that you have it in their frigging shipyard because the size of this thing, you can't just like you can't just like put it

01:04:40.800 --> 01:04:47.280
on the side of the road and you know, work on it or whatever. It is built by the day. If you don't do it on the hard, how do you paint the hull?

01:04:47.280 --> 01:04:49.560
That has to be done on the hard. Yeah, okay. Yeah.

01:04:50.760 --> 01:04:55.240
He said it would be cheaper or whatever. Well, you wouldn't work on the interior.

01:04:55.240 --> 01:04:58.760
All right. Size of it, major impediment to moving it,

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blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Yeah, he said that chartering,

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even if they decide to take your ship,

01:05:06.680 --> 01:05:10.320
like a charter company, they'll prioritize their own ships.

01:05:10.320 --> 01:05:15.040
Yeah. And they're going to- Yeah, you don't have to like run it yourself. They're going to take a bunch of money for managing it.

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So basically you'll be lucky to break even on a per transaction basis.

01:05:19.360 --> 01:05:22.600
That's something that I found out on the plane side as well.

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Unless you're pretty much running your own company and your own crew, it's not really practical.

01:05:27.080 --> 01:05:30.440
So either way, I think the reasonable conclusion

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is that regardless of whether we go tech-yacht or tech-plane, we need more than one of them.

01:05:35.800 --> 01:05:41.520
Oh. So we'll have our tech fleet and we can really take advantage of the economies of scale

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of having more than one. Well, you know a guy now.

01:05:45.520 --> 01:05:48.960
About bulk deal. It's like Costco, but for yachts.

01:05:48.960 --> 01:05:52.520
I think this yacht already is big enough to be the Costco pack.

01:05:53.520 --> 01:05:58.480
Yeah, it's probably about the same square footage. Yeah, when they- You know, the Floatplane company,

01:05:58.480 --> 01:06:02.720
I don't remember what they're called, they have a hilariously similar logo to us.

01:06:02.720 --> 01:06:05.920
I don't know if you've seen it. They're in Vancouver.

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What are they called again?

01:06:09.120 --> 01:06:11.160
Anthony in Vancouver.

01:06:12.840 --> 01:06:16.080
Harbor airs. That sounds about right.

01:06:16.080 --> 01:06:21.400
But then now I'm seeing a logo from them that looks really normal. And I've seen a logo from them that looks like our logo,

01:06:21.400 --> 01:06:25.760
but just vertical. Would make sense for a Floatplane company.

01:06:25.760 --> 01:06:29.920
It kind of would. But I don't see it now. Apparently, as far as I can tell,

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they make a pretty solid amount of their money from like commuters from Vancouver Island

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to Vancouver proper. Yes.

01:06:37.600 --> 01:06:40.760
So what if you did like small,

01:06:40.760 --> 01:06:43.880
you have to compute with them, they're very entrenched. Yeah, that might not be a good idea.

01:06:43.880 --> 01:06:47.200
Yeah, no, I think I just won't do that. They seem like they're happy doing the thing.

01:06:47.200 --> 01:06:50.600
I mean, if you chartered it from here to Nanaimo

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or something like that, your prices might be less than BC ferries, but.

01:06:56.200 --> 01:07:00.320
And actually run on time. I think you probably have better food.

01:07:02.120 --> 01:07:05.240
You wouldn't be able to take your car though, although you probably can't do that very often

01:07:05.240 --> 01:07:09.800
with BC ferries either. They have triplos on some of the ferries.

01:07:09.800 --> 01:07:12.640
That's not that bad. I don't mind a triplos burger.

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All right, what the heck are we supposed to be talking about? Is that it for the yacht?

01:07:17.680 --> 01:07:19.760
I think that's it for the yacht. Basically.

01:07:21.400 --> 01:07:25.120
You know, with how cheap it is apparently to fly from.

01:07:25.120 --> 01:07:30.840
Yeah, it's pretty reasonable, isn't it? It might be cheaper to just like get real estate

01:07:30.840 --> 01:07:34.160
on the island and then fly to work every day.

01:07:34.160 --> 01:07:37.920
Not bad. It's not expensive, yeah. That's crazy.

01:07:37.920 --> 01:07:41.320
You'd have to park a car. How does that even make any sense?

01:07:41.320 --> 01:07:44.440
How can you like? They fill the plane.

01:07:44.440 --> 01:07:49.400
Oh, okay, that helps. It's not a solo flight. They're like timed departures.

01:07:49.400 --> 01:07:53.280
Oh, okay, okay. But it's just a ferry, it's an air ferry.

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Basically. And that costs about as much. Also known as a ferry.

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Get a half bill.

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That cost about as much as taking the normal ferry.

01:08:03.760 --> 01:08:06.920
Yeah, like Tynan pointed this out, like living in Calgary and flying to UBC

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instead of renting in BC, there's a kid that did that. That's a real story.

01:08:10.800 --> 01:08:14.840
Yeah, I heard about that. And it was like financially reasonable,

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which is completely absurd. Unhinged.

01:08:17.880 --> 01:08:20.520
It just shows like how broken real estate is here.

01:08:22.680 --> 01:08:28.800
It needs to like plummet. Kresb says, how can Linus not know this?

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Because I don't commute via flow plane

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between the island and the mainland.

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Oh man, because I just don't know that.

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I've never had a reason to do that, man.

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I think I would move for like personal drone.

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Like the Floatplane thing, that doesn't seem that practical

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because with the embarking and disembarking and the fact that they're probably dropping you off

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in like the Vancouver Harbor and all that. Oh, it's wicked fast.

01:08:59.120 --> 01:09:03.520
Is it? Oh yeah. The embarking and disembarking is wicked fast.

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You're not doing customs, you're not doing, I know you're not doing customs,

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but there's gotta be security. You meet them at the gate with your ticket. We did it.

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Really? Remember? Oh, that's right, you guys did. It's fast.

01:09:13.720 --> 01:09:17.600
The whole reason of waiting is we showed up way too early and then like stood around.

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Okay, define fast though, because like I don't wanna commute more than half an hour.

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There's like, oh, I still gotta get in my car on the other side.

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I don't mean the plane speed. Get to the office. You were saying embarking and disembarking.

01:09:28.840 --> 01:09:32.600
No, I mean overall. Yeah, the whole thing is like, I wouldn't wanna commute that.

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If I was in the office two days a week or one day a week,

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I might consider living on the island. We just went around in a circle.

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We did the scenic tour, we didn't fly to the island back, so I don't know. But what I would want is like the personal drone,

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like the personal quadcopter or whatever. I think I would move for it.

01:09:53.160 --> 01:09:56.960
If you had a personal drone.

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And I could just land on my roof at home, land on my roof at the office.

01:10:00.280 --> 01:10:03.920
You'd put a like heli landing pad? I don't think the city of Surrey would allow it.

01:10:03.920 --> 01:10:07.840
I don't think Canada has made any meaningful progress on that.

01:10:07.840 --> 01:10:09.960
What if you made it so that there was like,

01:10:10.920 --> 01:10:15.440
horizontally opening doors. And you like landed in a bay.

01:10:15.440 --> 01:10:18.640
I don't even need that. So you're not landing on the roof. I'll just go down by a ladder.

01:10:19.360 --> 01:10:23.040
I don't need anything like that. No, but then you're not landing on the roof.

01:10:23.040 --> 01:10:26.680
Oh, I just, oh, I mean, my issue is just the city of Surrey

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wouldn't even just allow us to do anything like that. There's no way our strata would allow us

01:10:31.040 --> 01:10:34.360
to modify our building. So that's, it's a non-starter,

01:10:34.360 --> 01:10:38.560
right out of the gate, bribes. A strata for those of you.

01:10:38.560 --> 01:10:41.920
I have an easy solution actually. No problem.

01:10:41.920 --> 01:10:45.640
Crime. That is usually where it goes.

01:10:45.640 --> 01:10:51.040
In this case, it is that probably, but dressed up a little bit better.

01:10:51.040 --> 01:10:56.640
We got to bring back Linus Town. Oh my God. You can make your own, you can make your own law.

01:10:56.640 --> 01:11:00.320
Everybody is allowed to have a personal flying. It's part of our religion.

01:11:00.320 --> 01:11:05.040
Person drove. Yeah, we're still going to need to follow like transport

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Canada, you know, rules and stuff for air travel.

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And I don't think Canada. Sounds tough for them. I don't think, I don't think Canada's made

01:11:12.680 --> 01:11:16.600
any meaningful progress on any of that. I think they've got some bigger things to deal with,

01:11:16.760 --> 01:11:20.320
you know, the Americans coming up here.

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Sounds like a good time to, to shoe in some,

01:11:23.440 --> 01:11:24.600
some opportunity.

01:11:26.680 --> 01:11:30.720
Jesus. Speaking of shoeing, and shall we finish this merch message now?

01:11:30.720 --> 01:11:34.520
Yeah, what even was it again? I don't even remember. I watched the behind the scenes video

01:11:34.520 --> 01:11:38.080
for your screen saver shirts. Do the older staff sometimes find it

01:11:38.080 --> 01:11:41.960
hard to relate to the younger staff? What do you do to try and keep yourself up to date

01:11:41.960 --> 01:11:46.040
with current meta? I keeping yourself up to date. Honestly, a lot of the time is as simple

01:11:46.040 --> 01:11:53.440
as just talking to people who are younger than you. Like I am often surprised by how disconnected

01:11:53.720 --> 01:11:58.960
the other parents in my cohort are of the friends of my children.

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And I'm not calling out anybody specifically. I'm just saying that like, you know, I'll be like,

01:12:04.720 --> 01:12:08.040
I set up discord for my kids. Like I set up accounts for them

01:12:08.040 --> 01:12:11.400
and I set them up with a server. And I kind of showed them, okay,

01:12:11.400 --> 01:12:15.160
here's how you do some basic moderation on your server and stuff like that.

01:12:15.160 --> 01:12:19.920
And then I'll talk to other parents and they, their kids are on discord.

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They literally don't even know what it is. Like they're on discord with my kid

01:12:23.240 --> 01:12:28.360
and the parents don't even know what it is. And I'm like, discord isn't an algorithmic

01:12:28.360 --> 01:12:33.600
social media platform. We've discussed this before on Wanshown. We kind of agreed that while it isn't algorithmic,

01:12:33.600 --> 01:12:36.680
so it doesn't have some of the same issues that something like Facebook or TikTok.

01:12:36.680 --> 01:12:39.960
It's definitely still social media. It's definitely still social media.

01:12:39.960 --> 01:12:42.960
And you've got like nine year olds on there.

01:12:43.000 --> 01:12:47.760
You know, you got to be aware of what they're doing. You've got to understand these tools

01:12:47.760 --> 01:12:51.680
and just being around younger people

01:12:51.680 --> 01:12:55.960
and knowing what they're using and what they're doing with it is extremely helpful.

01:12:55.960 --> 01:13:00.000
And that doesn't mean that I have to use all of it. Like I have never installed Snapchat

01:13:00.000 --> 01:13:03.560
because I don't need a messaging platform

01:13:03.560 --> 01:13:07.720
that deletes my messages when I'm done. I don't send anybody dick pics,

01:13:07.720 --> 01:13:10.840
which is the only reason that I can think of that you need that.

01:13:10.840 --> 01:13:13.840
If you did, there would be a better way to do it. Because it doesn't really delete it

01:13:13.840 --> 01:13:17.280
and they can screenshot it. Mail. Yeah.

01:13:17.280 --> 01:13:20.840
Yeah. Like post?

01:13:20.840 --> 01:13:24.800
Yeah. You think that happened? That probably happened. Get out.

01:13:24.800 --> 01:13:28.400
That probably did happen. In the ye oldie days. In the Polaroid days?

01:13:28.400 --> 01:13:33.960
I'm sure somebody. That probably happened. I'm sure somebody has mailed a Polaroid of their wing.

01:13:33.960 --> 01:13:38.400
And I bet you, despite it being like low in quality,

01:13:38.400 --> 01:13:43.320
they probably still didn't put much more work into it. It was probably still a like plunk

01:13:43.320 --> 01:13:46.960
and then just mail it off. I bet. A pageant.

01:13:46.960 --> 01:13:50.600
Meet on the AOL chat room and just fax them. But yeah.

01:13:50.600 --> 01:13:56.640
And you know what, I think a big part of it too is that we cover tech for a living and that we game.

01:13:56.640 --> 01:14:01.640
Gaming has become so age agnostic

01:14:02.800 --> 01:14:09.600
and we used to think of it as a really bad thing. When you'd have some kid on the voice chat

01:14:09.640 --> 01:14:15.120
that's annoying or whatever. But now, I mean, it can still be annoying,

01:14:15.120 --> 01:14:18.320
but it can also be a good thing because at least it means you're not disconnected.

01:14:18.320 --> 01:14:21.040
Well, yeah, it depends on the adult too. Yeah.

01:14:24.760 --> 01:14:27.960
Blake Maverick says Snapchat is good for video calling

01:14:27.960 --> 01:14:31.680
between Android and iPhone. There are so many solutions for that.

01:14:31.680 --> 01:14:35.480
You 1,000% do not need Snapchat for that. Yeah.

01:14:35.480 --> 01:14:39.280
Skype. Skype. Give out.

01:14:40.720 --> 01:14:45.000
Hey, you were wearing the old shirt. I don't know what you're talking about.

01:14:45.000 --> 01:14:49.520
Yeah. No, they used to be, at that point, they were their own independent company.

01:14:51.920 --> 01:14:56.360
Did someone say gaming? Yeah, but you don't count anymore. Yeah, you're not even young anymore.

01:14:56.360 --> 01:14:59.680
You're like mini boomer now. Mid to late twenties. Ew.

01:14:59.680 --> 01:15:03.280
Yeah. Ew. I thought it was like 30. Don't fit that category anymore.

01:15:03.280 --> 01:15:07.800
All right. What do we have? What else we got today? I have a second merch message.

01:15:07.800 --> 01:15:12.000
You've got a lot more than a second merch message. Oh, I have to read you a second merch message.

01:15:12.000 --> 01:15:15.000
People are people. They like these shirts. They are loving these shirts.

01:15:15.000 --> 01:15:18.880
They are loving these shirts. A second merch message has hit the bricks. What about second?

01:15:20.880 --> 01:15:25.320
You hit the bricks. Get out of here. Hi, dll.dll.

01:15:25.320 --> 01:15:29.600
I had to recompile MOF files to fix WMI in Windows this week

01:15:29.600 --> 01:15:33.400
to get some functions in PowerShell to work again. That's managed object format

01:15:33.400 --> 01:15:40.400
and Windows management instrumentation. What's the weirdest PC issues you've had recently?

01:15:40.400 --> 01:15:44.640
Hidden Office used yet? I haven't used it yet, but I'm very tempted sometimes.

01:15:44.640 --> 01:15:48.000
I walk up those stairs and I see the RGB calling to me.

01:15:48.000 --> 01:15:51.640
As for weirdest PC issue I've had recently,

01:15:52.440 --> 01:15:54.160
oh dude, I'm sure there's something.

01:15:55.600 --> 01:15:59.840
Oh, crap. Okay, it wasn't strictly speaking a PC issue,

01:15:59.840 --> 01:16:03.880
but I had an issue with my car play yesterday

01:16:03.880 --> 01:16:10.840
where I was listening to music and it sounded like I was tuned into an AM radio station

01:16:10.880 --> 01:16:14.040
that I just barely had reception for.

01:16:14.040 --> 01:16:18.480
And I checked and I was on car play. That's like, what is this?

01:16:18.480 --> 01:16:23.440
And turning off the car, turning off the phone, turning everything back on and connecting again,

01:16:23.440 --> 01:16:26.920
like fixed it, but I was like, I've never seen that before.

01:16:26.920 --> 01:16:32.360
I don't know how that would happen. Everything else about car play was working fine. So clearly the data link between the phone and the car

01:16:32.360 --> 01:16:37.160
was fine. The only thing that has started making my car feel like,

01:16:38.440 --> 01:16:41.560
and I can't tell if it's actually my phone or my car.

01:16:41.560 --> 01:16:44.800
Yeah. Because Emma's phone seems to connect to my car, no problem.

01:16:44.800 --> 01:16:48.500
So it might be just my phone, but I'm having like Bluetooth issues

01:16:48.500 --> 01:16:55.120
and that's actually pretty annoying at this point. But I had a, you know how I had that issue with my phone

01:16:55.120 --> 01:16:58.600
that I thought was just me and it turned to a bunch of people in chat had it where like when I would unlock my phone,

01:16:58.600 --> 01:17:03.000
it would just open the YouTube app and open shorts immediately. And I was like, what the heck?

01:17:03.000 --> 01:17:07.360
I have another weird conspiracy theory, but this time I doubt even more

01:17:07.360 --> 01:17:13.720
than anyone else is running into it. Very, very close to the 5,000 series GPU launch.

01:17:15.200 --> 01:17:20.360
There was a driver update that I installed. And now if I'm like playing a game,

01:17:22.280 --> 01:17:26.680
videos in browsers will have major issues.

01:17:26.680 --> 01:17:31.880
Like the video will stop playing, but the audio will keep playing or it will entirely stop working

01:17:31.880 --> 01:17:35.440
and then have to load for a long time and then finally pop back in and keep going.

01:17:35.440 --> 01:17:39.240
Have you tried turning off hardware acceleration? I've tried a few different things.

01:17:39.240 --> 01:17:43.720
It's upset. Turning off hardware acceleration usually helps,

01:17:43.720 --> 01:17:47.960
but then like you're turning off hardware acceleration. Yeah, which kind of blows. Yeah.

01:17:47.960 --> 01:17:52.880
WillingSpy pointed out there was that RAM that didn't want to train for a long time the other day.

01:17:52.880 --> 01:17:56.320
After the stream. There is more people. How does this keep happening?

01:17:59.440 --> 01:18:00.760
I don't know what that is.

01:18:02.560 --> 01:18:06.040
This issue is not new.

01:18:06.040 --> 01:18:09.760
If you had drivers that exhibit this behavior before. Oh. All right, there you go.

01:18:09.760 --> 01:18:15.960
I've never experienced it. So the RAM did train and we did get 256 gigs working in that AMD system

01:18:15.960 --> 01:18:21.480
at apparently 5,200 mega transistors per second, which is pretty darn impressive.

01:18:21.480 --> 01:18:25.560
And I don't know, the whole thing didn't make any sense to me. Like during script review,

01:18:25.560 --> 01:18:29.280
I was like kind of annoyed with David for bringing me an AMD build that had,

01:18:29.320 --> 01:18:34.080
that was using CU DIMMs, because CU DIMMs are a technology

01:18:34.080 --> 01:18:38.040
that only Intel supports and AMD platforms. You can use the DIMMs in them,

01:18:38.040 --> 01:18:42.960
but they just run in bypass mode. They don't even use any of the special Tom Fulery

01:18:42.960 --> 01:18:46.760
that's supposed to allow them to go faster. And I was like, yo, we're gonna look like idiots.

01:18:46.760 --> 01:18:50.440
But he's like, no, no. ASUS and Kingston like work together specifically

01:18:50.440 --> 01:18:55.000
on these specific DIMMs and this board to like high capacity, whatever,

01:18:55.000 --> 01:18:59.320
higher research, yeah. Keep it paired. Well, ASUS sponsored the stream

01:18:59.320 --> 01:19:02.840
and they wanted to show off these DIMMs because they like did this work anyway.

01:19:02.840 --> 01:19:06.160
It did ultimately work at 5,200 apparently

01:19:06.160 --> 01:19:09.160
after the stream, so that's pretty cool.

01:19:09.160 --> 01:19:13.400
I had a couple of people say that apparently it'll switch over to Bluetooth LE mode,

01:19:13.400 --> 01:19:19.320
but my understanding is that the iPhone still doesn't do Bluetooth LE.

01:19:19.320 --> 01:19:22.440
iPhones don't support LE audio, sadly,

01:19:22.440 --> 01:19:27.960
as the first result here. LE audio is a new standard, blah, blah, blah,

01:19:27.960 --> 01:19:31.560
Feb 2024. Is this something Apple will be introducing?

01:19:31.560 --> 01:19:34.680
Yeah, I'm not aware of Apple actually supporting

01:19:34.680 --> 01:19:39.640
audio over Bluetooth LE, but maybe you guys can let me know if I'm mistaken on that.

01:19:39.640 --> 01:19:46.360
As a follow up to chat talking about the issue that I had, apparently just everybody has it.

01:19:46.360 --> 01:19:50.040
Every version, somebody with a 5,000 series GPU has it.

01:19:50.040 --> 01:19:54.760
Somebody with an AMD GPU has it. That seems to just be all over the place.

01:19:54.760 --> 01:20:00.320
Cool. Yeah. It's not LE audio, it's a different bitrate for call kit.

01:20:00.320 --> 01:20:05.560
Okay, does it sound like a Bluetooth glitch? Yeah, it wouldn't surprise me if it's a Bluetooth glitch,

01:20:05.560 --> 01:20:10.800
but it was definitely trippy because I felt like I'd gone back in time.

01:20:10.800 --> 01:20:14.520
It really did just sound like a badly tuned AM radio.

01:20:14.520 --> 01:20:19.040
It was wild. All right, what else we got for today?

01:20:19.040 --> 01:20:23.360
Dan, you got another message for us? Nah, we'll just, let's do another topic

01:20:23.360 --> 01:20:27.160
and then we'll head into sponsors. We've got this announcement here, should we do this now?

01:20:27.160 --> 01:20:34.040
Oh, sure. We recently built the ultimate sleeper gaming TV.

01:20:34.040 --> 01:20:39.120
It's pretty sick. It's got a PC with an RTX 4090.

01:20:39.120 --> 01:20:43.600
It's got a Wii U embedded in it with a spot for the sensor bar to mount at the top

01:20:43.600 --> 01:20:46.960
and a little flap that comes down so you can load disks in it.

01:20:46.960 --> 01:20:50.000
It's got a PlayStation 5 on this mount over here

01:20:50.000 --> 01:20:53.680
and it even has a spot where a switch can go in at the back

01:20:53.680 --> 01:20:57.480
and I mean a Nintendo switch, not a network switch. There's also a network switch,

01:20:57.480 --> 01:21:00.840
but that one's on the inside. I was gonna say, both sound very realistic.

01:21:00.840 --> 01:21:03.880
Full disclosure, the Nintendo switch mounts a little janky

01:21:03.880 --> 01:21:08.880
and that only matters because I wanna know

01:21:09.120 --> 01:21:10.760
if anyone wants to buy it.

01:21:12.560 --> 01:21:18.840
Cause it's like super cool, but we don't wanna store it forever. Yeah, so the bill of materials for this thing

01:21:18.880 --> 01:21:21.240
is about $12,000.

01:21:22.520 --> 01:21:26.280
US. Is that right? It says US in the dark.

01:21:26.280 --> 01:21:32.200
It's got an OLED TV in the front. It's super cool. It weighs a frickin' ton, like a CRT would.

01:21:32.200 --> 01:21:36.640
It actually works great. The speakers sound amazing.

01:21:36.640 --> 01:21:41.600
So yeah, if anybody wants it,

01:21:41.600 --> 01:21:46.840
it would feel really sad. It's a Wii, not a Wii U. It's a modded Wii U with an HDMI port, mini HDMI port.

01:21:49.440 --> 01:21:52.880
Hold on, this is the frame I want. Don't you hate that? Okay, there you go.

01:21:52.880 --> 01:21:56.240
So there's the inside of it. It's got this acoustic dampening

01:21:56.240 --> 01:22:00.600
so that the sound is better and it doesn't vibrate or whatever.

01:22:00.600 --> 01:22:06.080
There's a couple little things you might wanna do. I might configure a fan curve for those fans

01:22:06.080 --> 01:22:12.200
that are a little loud at the moment, but it's very cool and we get people asking us all the time,

01:22:12.520 --> 01:22:16.040
like, what do you guys do with stuff when you're done with it? And the answer, more often than not,

01:22:16.040 --> 01:22:20.280
unfortunately, is we take it apart because this may surprise you,

01:22:20.280 --> 01:22:25.280
but we also have a limited number of top spec GPUs

01:22:25.760 --> 01:22:30.600
and CPUs and stuff. And we often need to reuse them for new projects.

01:22:30.600 --> 01:22:34.960
So there's a forum post, which Dan will throw in all of the various chats.

01:22:34.960 --> 01:22:38.360
If you are interested in putting a serious offer in,

01:22:38.360 --> 01:22:44.640
please go leave a comment on our forum post and we can't ship it just to get that out of the way.

01:22:44.680 --> 01:22:47.920
There is absolutely no way that we would ship it.

01:22:47.920 --> 01:22:50.560
So if someone wants it, then yeah.

01:22:51.760 --> 01:22:56.320
Good luck with that. What else we got?

01:22:56.320 --> 01:22:59.480
Oh yeah, we're gonna do a couple of topics.

01:22:59.480 --> 01:23:03.720
YouTube is apparently the new television.

01:23:03.720 --> 01:23:09.580
Our source here is the YouTube blog. In a blog post reflecting on 20 years of YouTube,

01:23:09.580 --> 01:23:13.080
CEO Neil Mohan revealed that TV

01:23:13.120 --> 01:23:16.280
is now the most popular device by watch time

01:23:16.280 --> 01:23:18.240
for YouTube viewing in the US.

01:23:20.160 --> 01:23:24.920
And according to Nielsen, YouTube has been number one in streaming watch time

01:23:24.920 --> 01:23:28.000
in the US for the past two years.

01:23:28.000 --> 01:23:31.280
That, even though I live and breathe this,

01:23:31.280 --> 01:23:34.980
this is my entire freaking career and my company,

01:23:35.880 --> 01:23:38.880
I still find that extremely surprising.

01:23:40.080 --> 01:23:46.200
Genuinely stunning to me. I don't know, like, I don't know.

01:23:46.200 --> 01:23:52.600
It doesn't seem right. I can never remember how this horrible new dashboard.

01:23:52.600 --> 01:23:56.160
It might just be so deeply based around

01:23:59.720 --> 01:24:03.040
like the fact that if you're watching on your phone, you're probably watching short content

01:24:03.040 --> 01:24:07.040
and they're strictly going off of watch time. Yeah, but like, I mean,

01:24:07.040 --> 01:24:10.560
they sit there for a long time. Yeah, but you might leave YouTube running on your TV

01:24:10.880 --> 01:24:15.800
when you like walk away and stuff, the background noise type situation.

01:24:15.800 --> 01:24:19.320
I'm watching on my TV, YouTube app right now, wild.

01:24:20.280 --> 01:24:24.840
I'm trying to, man, I have such a hard time.

01:24:24.840 --> 01:24:28.760
This new dashboard, which isn't really new anymore,

01:24:28.760 --> 01:24:33.400
but it's just, it's gone. What is that? So this is the comparison metrics.

01:24:33.400 --> 01:24:37.640
Whoa. So more metrics. I'm trying to look for a device.

01:24:37.640 --> 01:24:40.160
And I- Is there a search? No.

01:24:41.200 --> 01:24:47.680
With that many things, you'd kind of- In-screens, clips, revenue, members, interactions,

01:24:47.680 --> 01:24:54.560
live, I do, I can never, I figured this out at least a dozen times.

01:24:54.560 --> 01:24:59.320
And then I've had to re-figure it out every single flipping time.

01:25:00.720 --> 01:25:04.720
It is published. Yeah, I don't know, view-

01:25:04.720 --> 01:25:10.040
Traffic sources? View time hours. No, it's not traffic sources.

01:25:10.040 --> 01:25:13.520
And then there's, add a metric. Here we go.

01:25:15.160 --> 01:25:21.920
Yeah, it's gotta be, it's devices. It's some kind of, if anyone can find it,

01:25:21.920 --> 01:25:24.640
let me know, it's so horrible.

01:25:26.640 --> 01:25:31.640
Subscribers, comments, drives me crazy.

01:25:31.640 --> 01:25:35.600
Drives me crazy. I don't see it at all. Yeah, it's definitely in there.

01:25:35.600 --> 01:25:39.520
It's a thing, more. Oh, here we go, here we go.

01:25:39.520 --> 01:25:42.200
Maybe it's one of these, player type. That might be it.

01:25:43.320 --> 01:25:46.680
YouTube main embedded, no, I'm crying out loud.

01:25:46.680 --> 01:25:51.680
Device, there it is. Okay. So watch time hours by device time.

01:25:51.680 --> 01:25:55.520
Here we go. So we do not even sort of follow the trend. No, not even a little.

01:25:55.520 --> 01:25:57.480
We are not trendy boys.

01:25:59.040 --> 01:26:05.520
So maybe that's why it doesn't make any sense to us. Because we are in a niche that really likes that computer.

01:26:05.520 --> 01:26:09.280
Yeah. Wow.

01:26:09.280 --> 01:26:13.920
So here's last month. This is the last month that we have complete data for.

01:26:13.920 --> 01:26:17.400
And computer took the lion's share

01:26:17.400 --> 01:26:20.560
with a little under half of overall viewership.

01:26:20.560 --> 01:26:24.920
Mobile phone is next, TV, third and tablet

01:26:24.920 --> 01:26:28.520
bringing up the rear. This is probably about what I would have expected,

01:26:28.520 --> 01:26:33.040
which means I am solidly within our own private little echo.

01:26:33.040 --> 01:26:37.840
Okay, boomer. Yeah, I guess. You just said that to literally all of them though.

01:26:37.840 --> 01:26:42.680
I mean, not literally all of them, half of them. I guess half, man, fair enough.

01:26:42.680 --> 01:26:47.680
Yeah. Broadly to the audience as a bucket.

01:26:47.680 --> 01:26:51.600
Okay, boomer. Yeah, pretty.

01:26:51.600 --> 01:26:54.880
It's like the Shaughnessy version of boomer. Boomer.

01:26:56.640 --> 01:27:00.080
More of the French version. All right.

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Well, there's a lot of pretty front panels there. All right, what else do you want to talk about?

01:31:08.360 --> 01:31:11.400
Zotac copied our verified actual gamer program?

01:31:11.400 --> 01:31:15.600
I'm happy about it. Zotac is trying to stiff the scalpers

01:31:15.600 --> 01:31:21.000
by selling RTX 50 series graphics cards directly to gamers via Discord.

01:31:21.000 --> 01:31:24.960
Their priority access campaign allows active participants

01:31:24.960 --> 01:31:28.120
of the Zotac gaming Discord to enter for a chance

01:31:28.120 --> 01:31:33.280
to purchase one of a limited number of 50 series cards available at MSRP.

01:31:33.280 --> 01:31:38.000
Winners have a limited time to complete their purchase. All serials are tracked

01:31:38.000 --> 01:31:43.160
and there is a zero tolerance policy against reselling and scalping.

01:31:43.160 --> 01:31:50.160
After a massive influx of new Discord members, Zotac has tweaked the program to make it more inclusive,

01:31:50.160 --> 01:31:55.000
stating that while active engagement is always encouraged, the selection will be based on a fair random process,

01:31:55.000 --> 01:31:58.120
not participation. So you don't have to spam the Discord.

01:31:58.120 --> 01:32:03.040
Yeah. I mean, we ran into some issues when we launched verified actual gamer as well.

01:32:03.040 --> 01:32:07.280
Like I remember one of the early ones, the game was really hard

01:32:07.280 --> 01:32:10.640
and we had people sort of talking to us,

01:32:10.640 --> 01:32:16.280
very respectfully actually, about how that might not be great for accessibility.

01:32:16.280 --> 01:32:21.640
And we were like, uh, right. Being good at video games is not necessarily,

01:32:22.640 --> 01:32:27.520
necessary to be an actual gamer. But we, so the way that we got around that

01:32:27.520 --> 01:32:33.480
was we changed the game every single time because one of the reasons why we had made it hard initially

01:32:33.480 --> 01:32:37.280
was we didn't want people to be able to like... Do it too fast. Or bought it.

01:32:37.280 --> 01:32:41.520
One of the two. We're gonna slow people down and we didn't want people to be able to bought it.

01:32:41.520 --> 01:32:44.640
So instead we change it every single time.

01:32:44.640 --> 01:32:48.120
So botting it would be difficult. Yeah, or pointless.

01:32:48.120 --> 01:32:52.880
Yeah. So a human would beat it before you could code a bot

01:32:52.880 --> 01:32:56.120
to beat it was kind of the idea behind that.

01:32:56.120 --> 01:33:00.880
But I mean, I guess it just highlights that there's always challenges.

01:33:00.880 --> 01:33:07.080
Like there's always a monkey paw, you know? You try to do something in good faith

01:33:07.080 --> 01:33:11.520
and it doesn't always work out that great.

01:33:11.520 --> 01:33:16.320
Yeah. Verified actual gamer, I think we ended up losing money on it

01:33:16.320 --> 01:33:19.320
in case you're curious. Well, I'm sure we did. Because we did sell at MSRP.

01:33:19.320 --> 01:33:22.800
If you include the development time. And we did buy them at less than MSRP.

01:33:23.880 --> 01:33:29.800
So, you know, theoretically the gross profit on it was positive, but after we put all the work into it

01:33:29.800 --> 01:33:34.800
and after some people canceled their orders and then they were lost in a warehouse for three years,

01:33:35.880 --> 01:33:39.760
losing value. Well, that wasn't... Yeah.

01:33:39.760 --> 01:33:44.640
That wasn't, that wasn't, that was probably avoidable but I only found out about it a little while ago.

01:33:44.640 --> 01:33:47.880
Oh, okay. Yeah, so that's pretty funny.

01:33:47.920 --> 01:33:52.720
Way to go team. Steam accidentally distributes malware.

01:33:52.720 --> 01:33:56.040
Generic looking free to play survival game.

01:33:56.040 --> 01:34:00.640
Pirate Fi, Pirate FL, Pirate Fi, I don't know.

01:34:00.640 --> 01:34:05.760
Which peaked at a concurrent player base of five.

01:34:05.760 --> 01:34:10.320
Nice. Sick. Was removed from the platform.

01:34:11.480 --> 01:34:15.560
Was removed from Steam after an update to the game containing malware was distributed

01:34:15.560 --> 01:34:18.920
on the platform. Valve contacted the affected players,

01:34:18.920 --> 01:34:22.400
roughly 800 to 1500 people who've downloaded the game

01:34:22.400 --> 01:34:25.600
and strongly encouraged a full system scan

01:34:25.600 --> 01:34:28.680
using an antivirus or to consider fully reformatting

01:34:28.680 --> 01:34:32.520
your operating system. Ooh, discussion should digital storefronts

01:34:32.520 --> 01:34:39.120
do a better job vetting games and developers. No mention of the game exists from before 23 days ago.

01:34:40.040 --> 01:34:43.340
That last bit seems like it could have, you know,

01:34:43.340 --> 01:34:48.120
kind of been vetted, but overall... Also tough because what if you just don't want

01:34:48.120 --> 01:34:51.320
to develop in public and you just want to launch on Steam.

01:34:52.280 --> 01:34:57.360
And overall, I would say that in general, Steam has had very few malware spambles.

01:34:57.360 --> 01:35:02.600
Very, very few. Considering how much data they dump onto people's systems.

01:35:02.600 --> 01:35:08.400
Feels like they must have acted on this pretty quick and dealt with it pretty well pretty quickly.

01:35:08.400 --> 01:35:12.240
I don't think we want a scenario where they're super heavy handed.

01:35:12.240 --> 01:35:14.960
Honestly, the app stores right now are really...

01:35:16.680 --> 01:35:21.080
They've gotten better actually. I think I'm carrying baggage from years ago

01:35:21.080 --> 01:35:25.880
when they used to be super annoying. Now they're a little annoying. Luke's feeling a little emotional right now.

01:35:25.880 --> 01:35:29.640
It's okay, we need to give him space and we need to give him time. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:35:29.640 --> 01:35:34.440
They've gotten better, but they used to be a huge pain to deal with.

01:35:34.440 --> 01:35:40.000
So there's kind of a happy medium and as much as I'll flag them for their 30% cut

01:35:40.000 --> 01:35:43.160
being a little ridiculous. They do do some work.

01:35:43.160 --> 01:35:47.000
They do do some work. And the happy medium I think has been found on this.

01:35:47.000 --> 01:35:51.800
I don't think we should really change anything. Until we run into a bunch more problems.

01:35:51.800 --> 01:35:55.160
When that happens, I mean, given that Steam manages to maintain

01:35:55.160 --> 01:36:00.240
a very low level of malware distributed by the platform by scanning initial game releases,

01:36:00.240 --> 01:36:05.120
maybe they just need to do that exact same thing with updates and then maybe this whole thing is solved.

01:36:05.120 --> 01:36:06.480
Yeah, sweet.

01:36:08.120 --> 01:36:11.240
Now this is pretty big. Maybe. Could be.

01:36:11.240 --> 01:36:15.640
Could be pretty big. The first major AI copyright case in the US

01:36:15.640 --> 01:36:21.000
has been decided. Thomson Reuters has won the first major AI copyright case

01:36:21.000 --> 01:36:24.800
in a lawsuit filed in 2020. Thomson Reuters claimed that materials

01:36:24.800 --> 01:36:31.840
from its legal research tool Westlaw had been reproduced by legal AI startup Ross Intelligence.

01:36:31.840 --> 01:36:35.240
A district court ruled in Thomson Reuters favor on Tuesday

01:36:35.240 --> 01:36:39.120
stating, none of Ross's possible defenses hold water.

01:36:39.120 --> 01:36:46.720
I reject them all. Importantly, the AI in question here is not generative AI.

01:36:46.720 --> 01:36:51.520
It does not write anything itself. It only surfaces existing material in response to a prompt

01:36:51.520 --> 01:36:57.040
making it essentially a search engine. This limits the case's utility as a precedent

01:36:57.040 --> 01:37:00.000
for other lawsuits against generative AI companies

01:37:01.400 --> 01:37:04.560
like the one we're about to talk about.

01:37:04.560 --> 01:37:09.160
Meanwhile, the news media alliance, a huge collection of news and magazine publishers

01:37:09.160 --> 01:37:13.200
including the likes of Condé Nast, The Guardian and Vox Media has filed a copyright

01:37:13.200 --> 01:37:17.160
and trademark infringement lawsuit against enterprise AI company, Cohere.

01:37:17.160 --> 01:37:20.160
Claiming, Cohere uses unlicensed copies of content

01:37:20.160 --> 01:37:25.520
to directly compete with publishers and listed 4,000 specific examples

01:37:25.520 --> 01:37:30.360
of verbatim regurgitations and substitutional summaries of new content.

01:37:31.480 --> 01:37:36.040
So, I realized that there is a difference

01:37:36.040 --> 01:37:39.680
between a search database

01:37:39.680 --> 01:37:43.080
and sharding out copyrighted content

01:37:43.080 --> 01:37:47.280
and a generative AI that trains itself

01:37:47.280 --> 01:37:50.440
on copyrighted content and then shards out

01:37:50.440 --> 01:37:56.080
something very similar. But it seems to me that if any of this holds up,

01:37:58.280 --> 01:38:01.840
it could basically stop AI development

01:38:01.840 --> 01:38:06.600
dead in its tracks in the US. Yes. Oh yeah, oh yeah, no, no, no.

01:38:06.600 --> 01:38:11.600
It'll just make America lose. And that's a really complicated question.

01:38:11.600 --> 01:38:15.880
Yeah, it sure is. No matter how you answer this, you're going to peeve somebody.

01:38:15.880 --> 01:38:19.920
Oh, 100%. What should they do?

01:38:19.920 --> 01:38:24.000
I have genuinely no idea, but what I do know is-

01:38:24.000 --> 01:38:27.480
Okay, let's make Dan unpopular. Dan, what should they do?

01:38:27.480 --> 01:38:30.560
America just loses. Sorry, I have not been listening.

01:38:30.560 --> 01:38:34.600
Okay, should America enforce copyright

01:38:34.640 --> 01:38:41.320
in a way that is both common sense and legally sensible by penalizing,

01:38:41.320 --> 01:38:44.920
shutting down access to basically obliterating

01:38:44.920 --> 01:38:49.600
anyone who trains their AI on copyrighted material, which is, as far as we can tell,

01:38:49.600 --> 01:38:52.720
everyone who just plundered first,

01:38:52.720 --> 01:39:00.360
asked for permission later, or should America just lose the development race for AI?

01:39:00.760 --> 01:39:03.800
Because all this- They've already lost it to China, so who cares?

01:39:03.800 --> 01:39:06.520
No, they're calling back. Well, that'll be unpopular.

01:39:09.080 --> 01:39:13.080
Have you used the new Gemini stuff? Not the new Gemini stuff, no.

01:39:13.080 --> 01:39:17.120
Is it good or bad? Pretty good. It's all pretty good.

01:39:17.120 --> 01:39:21.120
I've always said that it's built on- AI's built on child graves, basically.

01:39:23.680 --> 01:39:24.640
Stolen.

01:39:26.920 --> 01:39:31.400
Yeah, but it's already done. There's open source models.

01:39:31.400 --> 01:39:36.400
This is a problem. It's out of the bag, right? It's not even slightly out of the bag.

01:39:36.400 --> 01:39:38.440
It is out of the bag and down the street.

01:39:39.720 --> 01:39:44.760
There's open source models. People are training on their own already. A lot of the libraries of pirated content

01:39:44.760 --> 01:39:50.200
have leaked to a certain degree. I don't know if I should say a lot. Some of the libraries of pirated content have leaked.

01:39:51.880 --> 01:39:56.920
And you have non-U.S. companies competing very heavily with American companies.

01:39:56.920 --> 01:40:01.480
So the only thing that this will accomplish is make it so that the companies

01:40:01.480 --> 01:40:04.440
that are worth using their tools for,

01:40:05.520 --> 01:40:09.280
and if anyone tries to jump in and be like, no, we would just use North American ones?

01:40:09.280 --> 01:40:12.480
No shot. No shot at all.

01:40:12.480 --> 01:40:16.080
You will capitulate immediately and use whatever thing is best.

01:40:16.080 --> 01:40:19.960
This has been proven a trillion times over. There's no even point talking about it.

01:40:19.960 --> 01:40:24.200
So it just guarantees that countries that are not following your laws

01:40:24.200 --> 01:40:28.320
are gonna be the ones that win this particular race. So I don't know.

01:40:28.320 --> 01:40:31.760
We talked about this a long time ago, right? The same debate of like,

01:40:31.760 --> 01:40:35.280
oh, American lawmakers should pass laws to slow down AI development.

01:40:35.280 --> 01:40:38.800
It's like, okay, pass laws to lose.

01:40:38.800 --> 01:40:42.240
That's the only thing that's gonna be accomplished. The whole rest of the world's gonna keep going.

01:40:42.240 --> 01:40:47.000
Everything now is global. The laws in your particular area are...

01:40:47.880 --> 01:40:52.200
They're interesting. Deeply irrelevant to overall progress. But they're interesting.

01:40:52.200 --> 01:40:54.440
But other than that, I don't really know...

01:40:55.480 --> 01:40:59.520
I don't know how much impact they can have on the direction the world is going.

01:40:59.520 --> 01:41:03.280
Yep. I think China's gonna stop developing AI stuff

01:41:03.280 --> 01:41:07.120
because some American companies get upset about copyright.

01:41:07.120 --> 01:41:12.640
It's over. It's done. It's done. I-I-R-F-T-W that said then is copyright dead?

01:41:12.640 --> 01:41:15.360
And the answer is, it's complicated?

01:41:17.760 --> 01:41:20.960
What's the... I saw this is not an original thought.

01:41:20.960 --> 01:41:25.720
I'm stealing this from someone, but I don't remember who and I don't remember from where. But one of the founders of Reddit

01:41:26.480 --> 01:41:31.320
parted like a bunch of science papers or something

01:41:31.320 --> 01:41:36.240
and then got like some insane amount of years in jail

01:41:36.240 --> 01:41:40.680
and then ended up ending...

01:41:40.680 --> 01:41:44.000
What's the YouTube appropriate word for that?

01:41:44.000 --> 01:41:47.160
I think we can just leave it there. Okay. Yeah, yeah.

01:41:47.160 --> 01:41:52.520
Sounds good. Yeah, Aaron Schwartz. So like that's how hard we were on stuff back then

01:41:52.520 --> 01:41:55.880
and then we're gonna let this go. That doesn't feel good.

01:41:55.880 --> 01:42:01.320
No, it really doesn't. That doesn't feel right. That doesn't feel right for anyone whose work was stolen.

01:42:01.320 --> 01:42:05.120
100%. Including yours. Including mine? Yep.

01:42:05.120 --> 01:42:09.760
But like, what do you... If you think about chess moves,

01:42:09.760 --> 01:42:13.640
what happens as a result of this? That's where it gets weird.

01:42:13.640 --> 01:42:17.000
Yeah. Because it's like the... I don't wanna learn Mandarin. Yeah.

01:42:17.000 --> 01:42:21.040
Adam, I'm joking a little bit. But insert any other one, right?

01:42:21.040 --> 01:42:27.240
But insert anything else. What's that European AI company, M,

01:42:27.240 --> 01:42:30.640
their logo's an M. Do you know Dan? Not at the top of my head.

01:42:30.640 --> 01:42:34.600
No, sorry. European AI company. This will probably find it.

01:42:36.280 --> 01:42:40.000
Anthropic? Mistral? Mistral, Mistral AI.

01:42:40.000 --> 01:42:43.720
I'm just reading China. So like, it's not just necessarily China

01:42:43.720 --> 01:42:47.640
that's gonna win, but there are big companies making big moves

01:42:47.640 --> 01:42:53.440
outside of the US. And they're all using a pretty similar pool of data,

01:42:53.440 --> 01:42:58.480
which a lot of it is American. Yeah. In one particular case, yours.

01:42:58.480 --> 01:43:02.320
So if you copyright own the Americans,

01:43:02.320 --> 01:43:08.720
it makes it so the Americans can't compete, that in no way will stop the rest of the world

01:43:08.720 --> 01:43:13.680
from pushing on this. I mean, copyright law in general is pretty complicated. I remember there was a big case in,

01:43:13.680 --> 01:43:20.180
I think it was Ireland, where McDonald's could not prove

01:43:20.180 --> 01:43:23.580
the trademark towards Big Mac. Oh, I remember this.

01:43:23.580 --> 01:43:27.420
Because there was already a restaurant. A little pub or something? Something that was called Big Mac

01:43:27.420 --> 01:43:30.580
or something like that. Big Macs. That had been there for,

01:43:30.580 --> 01:43:34.340
you know, longer than McDonald's had been ever. Yeah.

01:43:35.780 --> 01:43:40.340
So even doing that type of global trademark across the country is not possible.

01:43:40.340 --> 01:43:43.700
Copyright and trademark is just such a complicated mess.

01:43:43.700 --> 01:43:50.540
It's wild. Why we have a tech sack instead of a tech other word.

01:43:50.540 --> 01:43:54.620
Yeah. The little sack that we have that you can put tech in.

01:43:56.620 --> 01:44:00.300
I just don't, I don't like. If you want to get really meta.

01:44:00.300 --> 01:44:03.900
We just changed the name. I mean, the shirts that you're wearing, you know.

01:44:05.100 --> 01:44:09.740
No, let's not talk about that. Let's talk instead about this message from J21234.

01:44:11.620 --> 01:44:15.980
They pointed out that, how can you have a certificate of authenticity?

01:44:15.980 --> 01:44:20.100
This is from the Floatplane chat that is signed by some guy who just like changes

01:44:20.100 --> 01:44:24.580
his signature whenever he feels like it. I will say both of those are real.

01:44:24.580 --> 01:44:29.780
They are definitely both by my hand. But I have, now that I sign more stuff,

01:44:29.780 --> 01:44:32.460
I have changed to this. Yeah, yeah.

01:44:33.780 --> 01:44:37.180
This takes too long. Yeah. That's all I have to say about that.

01:44:37.180 --> 01:44:40.980
Sorry. I can't believe you got, by the way,

01:44:40.980 --> 01:44:45.020
the Lambo beanie and the Lambo heart potato hoodie.

01:44:45.020 --> 01:44:49.060
Incredibly small amount of people accomplish that. One, probably, I don't know.

01:44:49.060 --> 01:44:54.220
I wouldn't be surprised. This looks well worn, dude. This looks like they have been enjoying that $70.

01:44:54.220 --> 01:44:57.660
That's sick. A loss of US based AI tech

01:44:57.660 --> 01:45:02.220
would cripple medical and scientific research if we have to continue with old methods

01:45:02.220 --> 01:45:05.660
while other countries research with AI tools. Our state and federal governments

01:45:05.660 --> 01:45:07.860
have started a ban on foreign softwares.

01:45:08.860 --> 01:45:12.140
Yeah. I mean, this is what I'm talking about. This is what I'm saying.

01:45:13.020 --> 01:45:16.500
You're just making yourself lose. But then that doesn't feel good

01:45:16.500 --> 01:45:21.060
because it doesn't feel like justice because a ton of people were just ripped off

01:45:21.060 --> 01:45:24.420
to the tune of what should probably be billions of dollars.

01:45:24.420 --> 01:45:29.500
And they'll almost certainly never see anything for it, which is clearly not okay.

01:45:29.500 --> 01:45:32.900
Yeah. And I mean, realistically, we're gonna end up embroiled in controversy

01:45:32.900 --> 01:45:37.380
when people are asking four years from now why we didn't raise the alarm about this.

01:45:38.260 --> 01:45:41.540
To be honest, yeah. We knew that AI was ripping people off.

01:45:41.540 --> 01:45:45.580
This one group knew. Why they didn't do anything about it? Why didn't we stop it?

01:45:45.580 --> 01:45:49.940
Why did they only talk about it on their live show? Not everybody watches that, Luke.

01:45:49.940 --> 01:45:52.580
Jerks. Not everybody watches that.

01:45:55.140 --> 01:45:59.700
But yeah, I don't know. It's weird. It's very uncomfortable, honestly, to think about.

01:45:59.700 --> 01:46:04.100
It doesn't feel good. I don't think there's a feel good answer here.

01:46:04.100 --> 01:46:09.300
It's do the thing that feels right and lose as a nation, as a country, as a...

01:46:09.300 --> 01:46:12.620
Society. Society or...

01:46:12.620 --> 01:46:16.540
Do the right thing and fade into the dustbin of history.

01:46:16.540 --> 01:46:22.060
Yeah. Essentially. Or do the wrong thing and try to stay on top.

01:46:22.060 --> 01:46:25.540
So do we do the wrong thing for the right reasons? Do the ends justify the means?

01:46:25.540 --> 01:46:30.380
Go, quick. But that's, yeah, I mean... Summarize a thousand years of philosophy

01:46:30.380 --> 01:46:33.020
in one sound bite. Yeah, sick.

01:46:33.940 --> 01:46:39.220
Good luck with that. Be excellent to each other.

01:46:39.220 --> 01:46:42.260
Thanks, Luke. Luke agrees with stealing from others.

01:46:42.260 --> 01:46:48.580
Oh, God. I do not. Amtrak demonstrates great taste,

01:46:48.580 --> 01:46:52.420
encouraging CRT use on their trains.

01:46:52.420 --> 01:46:55.740
And our source for this is Amtrak.

01:46:58.060 --> 01:47:01.300
No need to hit pause when you ride with Amtrak.

01:47:01.300 --> 01:47:05.180
Remember the blissful rush of playing your Nintendo Switch in the backseat of the car,

01:47:05.180 --> 01:47:11.020
racing to snag one last power-up before the battery ran out? Not a care in the world as someone else took care of the driving?

01:47:11.020 --> 01:47:14.580
Well, there's good news. The technological wizards at Amtrak have created

01:47:14.580 --> 01:47:19.380
a sort of time machine that simulates this experience, but now there's no parental figure threatening

01:47:19.380 --> 01:47:22.780
to turn the car around and take away your gaming device.

01:47:22.780 --> 01:47:26.340
With plenty of power outlets for your gaming devices, complimentary Wi-Fi load-developable space

01:47:26.340 --> 01:47:29.420
between you and your sticky-fingered siblings and overhead storage you can access anytime,

01:47:29.420 --> 01:47:32.380
there's no better way to keep the gaming lights on than train travel.

01:47:32.420 --> 01:47:37.020
So go ahead and bring that extra CRT for the Smash Melee tournament

01:47:37.020 --> 01:47:41.060
or an entire dual-screen monitor setup. You would be far from the first.

01:47:42.660 --> 01:47:47.700
What? I almost want to challenge them on this. Oh my goodness, this is amazing.

01:47:47.700 --> 01:47:51.020
This is the actual Amtrak website.

01:47:51.020 --> 01:47:54.500
That dude had an Amtrak branded DS, by the way. Right?

01:47:54.500 --> 01:47:58.100
That was wild. What the heck? What are we even looking at here?

01:47:58.100 --> 01:48:01.820
This is so based. You should do it.

01:48:01.820 --> 01:48:05.660
You should host a land on a train. Fast lander.

01:48:09.500 --> 01:48:13.620
The fastest land party. The fastest terrestrial land party.

01:48:13.620 --> 01:48:19.300
What plane chat wants us to take the AIO TV? No, definitely not.

01:48:20.580 --> 01:48:22.740
Tech train, you can get a train car.

01:48:23.980 --> 01:48:28.100
People used to, didn't like really rich people used to do that? Lots of people have been talking about that today.

01:48:28.100 --> 01:48:30.500
Really? Yeah. You can get a train car.

01:48:31.260 --> 01:48:34.860
There's like one reasonable track in BC.

01:48:34.860 --> 01:48:38.220
You don't know a guy? I don't know a guy for trains, I'm sorry.

01:48:38.220 --> 01:48:42.020
Well then we can't do it. Then we can't do it. Actually don't.

01:48:42.020 --> 01:48:45.100
Can't move forward unless Dan knows a guy. I feel like by the end of the week.

01:48:45.100 --> 01:48:49.140
I'm sure I could find a guy that knows a guy. Next week you'll know a guy, yeah. I'll ask around, I'll ask my guys.

01:48:49.140 --> 01:48:53.980
Someone will get in touch with us. Dude, imagine a train. I think you have to pay for the tracks.

01:48:53.980 --> 01:48:57.620
Train car. Well, yeah, I would assume so, I mean. You mean for the tracks?

01:48:57.620 --> 01:49:00.100
Well, yeah, track time, like you'd have to.

01:49:00.700 --> 01:49:04.300
The tracks are owned by people and you have to pay for them.

01:49:04.300 --> 01:49:09.100
It's kind of sucks. But this used to be a thing, there's got to be some amount of framework.

01:49:09.100 --> 01:49:13.020
I don't think it's a thing anymore, just because something was a thing at some point.

01:49:13.020 --> 01:49:18.620
I mean, I don't think I could find an ice harvester to bring me ice to store in my cave

01:49:18.620 --> 01:49:21.900
so that I can keep my vegetables chilly. I know of one.

01:49:21.900 --> 01:49:25.860
Oh, I got a guy too. Do you need a contact?

01:49:25.860 --> 01:49:30.260
I don't need an ice harvesting contact. They're selling glacier ice.

01:49:30.260 --> 01:49:32.540
They're shipping it from Greenland to Dubai.

01:49:35.020 --> 01:49:38.940
That is just so believable. No, it's true. Yeah.

01:49:38.940 --> 01:49:42.540
I don't like current year at all. I never have.

01:49:45.820 --> 01:49:49.460
I wanna go back to monkey. I don't wanna do this anymore.

01:49:52.300 --> 01:49:56.260
Also in the Floatplane chat, Grelwing asked, Hey Linus, have you read the feedback

01:49:56.300 --> 01:50:00.820
on the sponsor spots in the Chinese PCs video? Yes, and we have actually removed

01:50:00.820 --> 01:50:04.900
significant chunks of it with the YouTube editor. So thank you for your feedback

01:50:04.900 --> 01:50:08.420
and I have passed that along to the business team and we have dialed it back.

01:50:08.420 --> 01:50:12.300
Thank you. I agree that it was too much.

01:50:13.300 --> 01:50:16.340
Do you wanna do, oh, there's literally nothing left for you.

01:50:16.340 --> 01:50:21.140
Why don't you do a couple of messages because I gotta run to the washroom and then we're gonna talk about a company

01:50:21.140 --> 01:50:24.900
that reached out to me that actually had a very- Is it cool? It's cool.

01:50:24.940 --> 01:50:28.260
Okay. Okay.

01:50:28.260 --> 01:50:31.380
Okay. Interesting. You got anything for when we did?

01:50:31.380 --> 01:50:35.740
I do actually. I've got a couple here. Sorry. That's gonna be an interesting topic though

01:50:35.740 --> 01:50:39.340
because they didn't reach out to him, they reached out to me. Oh.

01:50:39.340 --> 01:50:42.700
And I was like- So he was just lying. I have no idea what this is. I'm gonna pass this far.

01:50:44.020 --> 01:50:48.820
Luke, have you tried creatine ever since I have started it?

01:50:48.820 --> 01:50:52.620
My recovery time is almost nothing. I've been using it beyond raw for about a year

01:50:52.620 --> 01:50:57.460
and it's been great. Yeah, I technically double dose it

01:50:57.460 --> 01:51:02.180
based off of some advice I got.

01:51:02.180 --> 01:51:05.300
So I take, is it milligrams? Milligrams?

01:51:05.300 --> 01:51:08.860
Grams? Something like that? Usually you're supposed to take five of whatever it is

01:51:08.860 --> 01:51:12.340
and I take 10. Five grams, 10 grams. Yeah.

01:51:12.340 --> 01:51:16.660
Yeah, I like it. Seems good. I feel like not everyone is a responder to it.

01:51:18.700 --> 01:51:24.780
I feel like I am. I think I actually am. That's the only form of anything that I take.

01:51:24.780 --> 01:51:28.180
I did the 20 gram loading and that was a mistake.

01:51:28.180 --> 01:51:31.180
See, I do that and I have no problems.

01:51:31.180 --> 01:51:34.820
No problems at all. I'll like forget to take it for a week and then load again and nothing.

01:51:34.820 --> 01:51:39.740
Doesn't bother me at all. I double dose it every day, no issues whatsoever.

01:51:39.740 --> 01:51:42.780
Do you like drink it all in one sitting or do you take it over the entire day?

01:51:42.780 --> 01:51:46.180
Oh yeah. Interesting. Fire back.

01:51:47.420 --> 01:51:50.180
I am weak, confirmed.

01:51:50.620 --> 01:51:56.060
I mean, no, it's a stomach thing. Some people respond very negatively to it

01:51:56.060 --> 01:51:59.460
but still gain the benefits. Some people don't gain the benefits.

01:51:59.460 --> 01:52:03.420
Some people do gain the benefits and I seem to not respond quickly to it

01:52:03.420 --> 01:52:06.980
and do gain the benefits.

01:52:06.980 --> 01:52:10.620
So it's all right, not respond negatively to it and do gain the benefits.

01:52:10.620 --> 01:52:14.100
I tried to get more recently and that ended up being okay.

01:52:14.100 --> 01:52:17.820
Promoting personal fitness isn't very Canadian. What?

01:52:17.820 --> 01:52:22.300
What? What? What are you talking about, Boosted?

01:52:23.860 --> 01:52:27.380
What? I don't know.

01:52:27.380 --> 01:52:30.740
Okay, I've got another one. This is a little- Look at body break.

01:52:30.740 --> 01:52:34.900
A little bit more. General, Mr. Tips Birdman AV Club,

01:52:34.900 --> 01:52:38.540
what's your memorable Valentine's Day faux pas?

01:52:38.540 --> 01:52:41.540
Faux pas? Yeah.

01:52:41.540 --> 01:52:45.540
Fox pass for the Americans.

01:52:46.540 --> 01:52:49.860
Faux pas?

01:52:51.300 --> 01:52:55.940
Am I remembering how that works, right? Somebody did a little social oopsie.

01:52:55.940 --> 01:52:56.780
Yeah.

01:53:02.900 --> 01:53:05.140
I don't know, I can't, I don't really care.

01:53:06.820 --> 01:53:10.740
Nobody'd ever been in like embarrassing

01:53:10.740 --> 01:53:14.500
for a Valentine's Day. For me? Yeah, or something you know about.

01:53:14.500 --> 01:53:19.060
Maybe, I don't know. I mean, usually not to be all traditional about this,

01:53:19.060 --> 01:53:22.940
but usually I feel like it's me doing things. That makes sense.

01:53:22.940 --> 01:53:24.060
Not the other way around.

01:53:26.620 --> 01:53:30.220
Not that I'm against that. I just think that's normally how that has gone

01:53:30.220 --> 01:53:31.300
in my history.

01:53:34.540 --> 01:53:39.060
I don't know. I don't know.

01:53:39.060 --> 01:53:42.780
Forgetting? That's a really boring answer.

01:53:42.780 --> 01:53:47.580
That's a pretty big faux pas. Let's see if I have anything here in incoming for you.

01:53:53.500 --> 01:53:57.300
Emma left me a little note in my lunch today. That was cute. Oh, that's adorable.

01:53:57.300 --> 01:53:59.140
That's not a faux pas though. That was good.

01:54:00.300 --> 01:54:04.780
Hey, Deela, what's your opinion and thoughts on the Envigia digits upcoming product?

01:54:04.780 --> 01:54:07.940
Do you believe it will be popular? Luke, here's a chance to talk about AI.

01:54:07.940 --> 01:54:12.660
Oh, we did it. I mean, we've been talking about doing something

01:54:12.660 --> 01:54:17.460
in the office. I've put together a little super group of AI nerds

01:54:19.380 --> 01:54:22.820
and we've been discussing what we should do

01:54:22.820 --> 01:54:26.020
because we wanna have something in-house that people can use,

01:54:26.020 --> 01:54:29.380
not only just for inline IDE assistance for the developers,

01:54:29.380 --> 01:54:34.020
but also just to get people more interested in it.

01:54:34.020 --> 01:54:37.260
I think where I'm at right now with AI,

01:54:37.260 --> 01:54:41.300
I've talked to her a bit on the show, I think a lot of people misuse it

01:54:41.300 --> 01:54:46.060
or like, oh, I think it's maybe a little,

01:54:48.140 --> 01:54:49.740
I don't know if this is fair to say,

01:54:51.500 --> 01:54:57.940
but like, I don't know, I'm sure other people feel this way too, but like, I feel like I use it in a way that is good

01:54:57.940 --> 01:55:02.860
and that a lot of other people don't. You use it like a tool. How lame is that to say?

01:55:02.860 --> 01:55:07.260
Very self-centered. But yeah, like one use case that I've described

01:55:07.260 --> 01:55:12.100
to a lot of people is that I don't use it to write things for me effectively ever.

01:55:12.100 --> 01:55:15.260
What I do get it to do is get it to try to interpret

01:55:15.260 --> 01:55:18.740
the things that I've written. Cause I've noticed over time,

01:55:18.740 --> 01:55:21.860
some massive percentage of communication is body language

01:55:21.860 --> 01:55:26.300
and a lot of business and just communication in general is moving to text.

01:55:26.300 --> 01:55:30.140
So someone said the exact words, sentiment analysis. Those are my keywords.

01:55:30.140 --> 01:55:34.300
I have different various prompts that I use with that, but if I'm sending a message to someone,

01:55:34.300 --> 01:55:39.020
especially if it's a serious one, and I have the time to iterate through it,

01:55:39.060 --> 01:55:42.060
I'll write the message up, slap it in there,

01:55:42.060 --> 01:55:46.660
ask it for a sentiment analysis, and then I might tweak it from there

01:55:46.660 --> 01:55:53.060
based on what it says, and I might even ask it like, wow, what would you change to try to shift this

01:55:53.060 --> 01:55:56.340
to be a little bit more friendly or whatever?

01:55:57.940 --> 01:56:03.140
And I might integrate its ideas, but in general, I don't actually have it right for me.

01:56:03.140 --> 01:56:07.420
And I think using it in that way, taking that type of thing,

01:56:07.420 --> 01:56:10.340
and Grammarly does that, cool, I don't care, use Grammarly.

01:56:11.540 --> 01:56:15.020
Anyways, using it in this type of way

01:56:15.020 --> 01:56:18.540
where you're like, you're not taking its output

01:56:18.540 --> 01:56:25.300
and submitting its output. That's where almost all the issues I have found with it lie

01:56:25.500 --> 01:56:30.500
are when people are creating a result

01:56:31.140 --> 01:56:35.940
and just submitting that result. If you use it to do some of the steps for you,

01:56:35.940 --> 01:56:40.580
if you use it as a sounding board, if you use it as a form of thinking,

01:56:40.580 --> 01:56:44.980
but then you check what it says and you verify and you move from there and you use it as a research tool

01:56:44.980 --> 01:56:48.300
and stuff like that, but it's not outputting the thing that you're submitting

01:56:48.300 --> 01:56:53.260
and you're checking the stuff that it's saying, you can get a lot of benefit from it.

01:56:53.260 --> 01:56:56.620
Like an actually, a sounding board, Elijah,

01:56:56.620 --> 01:57:01.420
we've already established this, you're effectively a boomer now. You don't get to do that anymore.

01:57:01.420 --> 01:57:05.860
It's over, I'm sorry. But yeah, I don't know.

01:57:05.860 --> 01:57:10.820
How do you use it, Dan? I kind of don't really.

01:57:10.820 --> 01:57:14.120
I don't use it at work. I don't really use it for much.

01:57:15.860 --> 01:57:20.980
I don't know if that's a problem or not. I have just never really found a need that much.

01:57:20.980 --> 01:57:24.900
Sometimes I will ask it some very specific questions

01:57:24.900 --> 01:57:26.780
about which word I'm thinking of.

01:57:28.860 --> 01:57:33.700
But it's just like a dictionary thing. I'm more interested in how they function.

01:57:36.780 --> 01:57:43.060
Yeah, I don't know. Think less of me for that. Okay, I mean, I missed all of it,

01:57:43.060 --> 01:57:46.580
but I assume that's a valid option. It was like usage of AI tools.

01:57:46.580 --> 01:57:49.940
Do you use any AI stuff ever? Not really, no.

01:57:49.940 --> 01:57:53.580
Weak. I don't have a use for it, not at the moment.

01:57:53.580 --> 01:57:55.500
I think you could. I think so too.

01:57:56.580 --> 01:58:00.820
I think a lot of people could. I think it's just not in people's habits yet.

01:58:01.860 --> 01:58:05.180
I would expect it to be in mine. I just, I don't know.

01:58:05.180 --> 01:58:08.460
I find I don't decently often forget about it. And then when I'm like,

01:58:08.460 --> 01:58:13.940
oh yeah, I should like use this stuff. I do, I'm a little bit faster sometimes.

01:58:13.940 --> 01:58:18.380
I like your idea of using it for sentiment analysis. I think maybe.

01:58:18.380 --> 01:58:22.060
Because sometimes I'll sit there and think about things and rewrite things myself, right?

01:58:22.060 --> 01:58:25.660
And that can take a while sometimes. You do more of that than I do.

01:58:25.660 --> 01:58:28.740
That's fair, but I feel like you could ask about some of the stuff that you do

01:58:28.740 --> 01:58:32.260
and it might be able to help. Maybe. It might also suck a lot.

01:58:33.140 --> 01:58:36.980
Yeah, I don't think the stuff that I'm doing now, it can help with.

01:58:36.980 --> 01:58:40.900
You don't think it knows stuff about. Although it could probably definitely help me with JavaScript stuff.

01:58:40.900 --> 01:58:44.500
AirHockey. No, but JavaScript.

01:58:44.500 --> 01:58:47.900
Yeah, it could probably. And JSON parsing and API.

01:58:47.900 --> 01:58:52.900
Oh, I asked it how the hell the Microsoft API works.

01:58:53.260 --> 01:58:56.820
Because the SharePoint API is one of the worst things

01:58:56.860 --> 01:59:01.180
I have ever encountered. I remember that brief period of time

01:59:01.180 --> 01:59:04.460
that we were looking to like, maybe the whole company should use SharePoint.

01:59:04.460 --> 01:59:07.820
And then we started looking to SharePoint and all. We were like, maybe not.

01:59:09.860 --> 01:59:10.860
Maybe that's a no.

01:59:14.220 --> 01:59:20.220
So this is pretty cool. Remember that sport camera company

01:59:20.220 --> 01:59:25.620
that you linked me up with? I mean, that was like this week or last week.

01:59:25.620 --> 01:59:29.780
So yeah. I don't know what you do or don't remember. So it's called PlaySite.

01:59:29.780 --> 01:59:34.300
And they handle a lot of different courts,

01:59:34.300 --> 01:59:39.220
or a lot of different courts, a lot of different sports. But one of the things that they've apparently

01:59:39.220 --> 01:59:42.700
done really well in is pickleball clubs.

01:59:42.700 --> 01:59:46.660
This is not pickleball. I believe that's Padel. That's not pickleball either.

01:59:46.660 --> 01:59:51.180
This is also not pickleball. Thank you for that. Neither is that.

01:59:51.180 --> 01:59:55.100
Anyway, the point is that these guys

01:59:55.100 --> 01:59:58.580
actually seem like they might be a lot more legit

01:59:58.580 --> 02:00:04.780
than I thought. I'd never heard of them. Like I know Hawkeye and I know,

02:00:04.780 --> 02:00:07.780
I assumed that most major sports

02:00:07.780 --> 02:00:15.380
just kind of like had their own setup or whatever. But apparently these guys are into video streaming,

02:00:16.940 --> 02:00:21.940
instant replay, coaching and like strategy analysis.

02:00:22.860 --> 02:00:27.060
Particularly, they apparently do really well in coaching,

02:00:27.060 --> 02:00:33.260
automated production. They're in a like whack ton of different sports.

02:00:33.260 --> 02:00:36.980
The main reason why it took me a while to get them to you

02:00:36.980 --> 02:00:41.100
is because I was going back and forth with them for a while, because they don't list badminton.

02:00:41.100 --> 02:00:44.540
Well, so yeah, they don't because nobody really cares

02:00:44.540 --> 02:00:49.620
about badminton in North America, sort of, except that as we discussed on the call with them,

02:00:49.620 --> 02:00:56.180
it's growing really fast. Yes. So he was kind of telling me that where a lot

02:00:56.180 --> 02:00:59.540
of their business comes from is, so I got on a call with the rep and he says,

02:00:59.540 --> 02:01:04.940
yeah, a lot of facilities just, they put in security cameras and then they start getting

02:01:04.940 --> 02:01:09.700
players coming up to the front desk being like, oh man, I made like an epic save on that shot.

02:01:09.700 --> 02:01:14.740
Can I get the security camera footage? Can you get me the security camera footage? And they were like, so that's one of the things

02:01:14.740 --> 02:01:20.180
that we do a really good job of is you could just put a QR code on the side of the court.

02:01:20.180 --> 02:01:23.300
People could just scan the QR code, go into their app,

02:01:23.300 --> 02:01:28.300
and then they can download, you know, the last 30 seconds or whatever of the match.

02:01:28.300 --> 02:01:32.660
They can also apparently do instant replay, whether you use it for line calls or whether you use it

02:01:32.660 --> 02:01:36.260
just for like, I don't know, just like doing an epic instant replay.

02:01:36.260 --> 02:01:39.540
That's apparently something that they work on. And...

02:01:39.540 --> 02:01:42.540
It could be kind of sick if there was like a screen on the court or maybe you just use your phone

02:01:42.540 --> 02:01:46.700
and like, if there's a dispute, you can just watch it back. And we're set up for that.

02:01:46.740 --> 02:01:50.340
So we have power and Ethernet between every single court

02:01:50.340 --> 02:01:55.060
with that we put there because we intended to have,

02:01:55.060 --> 02:02:00.420
whether it was for scorekeeping or whether it was for instant replay or whether it was for whatever else,

02:02:00.420 --> 02:02:03.700
we have networking, we have power throughout the facility.

02:02:03.700 --> 02:02:07.740
And the way that it works is it's a charge per camera.

02:02:07.740 --> 02:02:10.980
And then basically it's a charge per camera per year.

02:02:10.980 --> 02:02:14.500
And you have to lock in for a term, but I didn't realize how big these guys are.

02:02:14.500 --> 02:02:18.380
Apparently they have thousands of clubs. Guys, is there anyone in chat,

02:02:18.380 --> 02:02:22.300
anyone in Floatplane chat that has used PlaySite before?

02:02:22.300 --> 02:02:25.820
Like in a facility or for coaching or training

02:02:25.820 --> 02:02:30.820
or for a stream, L-Torred asks, can you do local compute?

02:02:32.100 --> 02:02:35.700
I doubt it, given the specs of the onsite server

02:02:35.700 --> 02:02:39.580
that they gave me. However, from my understanding,

02:02:39.580 --> 02:02:43.540
basically everything is RTMP or RTSP.

02:02:43.540 --> 02:02:47.580
And if we wanted to also do some like

02:02:47.580 --> 02:02:51.540
machine vision analysis on that video data,

02:02:51.540 --> 02:02:57.520
nothing would prevent us from multicasting it to their thing and to a completely separate thing.

02:02:59.420 --> 02:03:03.220
Dan, feel free to correct me if what I'm saying is stupid.

02:03:06.780 --> 02:03:10.740
What does that mean? It hasn't been listening, that's what that means. When do I not?

02:03:11.820 --> 02:03:16.500
All right, fair enough. He's trying to respond to merge messages.

02:03:16.500 --> 02:03:21.540
He's trying to do his job. See, yeah, nobody here has apparently used it,

02:03:21.540 --> 02:03:26.780
but these guys say they're in thousands of clubs. So I would think at least, okay, fine, you know what?

02:03:26.780 --> 02:03:30.020
I'm leaving the confines of Floatplane chat

02:03:30.020 --> 02:03:33.620
and I'm going to YouTube chat to see if anyone here

02:03:33.620 --> 02:03:38.700
has ever seen this. No, nobody's seen this, nobody's heard of this. They're talking about SharePoint still apparently.

02:03:38.700 --> 02:03:42.860
Still? God, yeah, SharePoint's awful. Yeah, the second I said that about SharePoint,

02:03:42.860 --> 02:03:48.340
I was like, eh, there's going to be people fighting. All right, well, brilliant.

02:03:48.340 --> 02:03:52.060
Apparently you can, like you can paywall matches

02:03:52.060 --> 02:03:56.100
or tournaments, so if you have like a major tournament or something, then that can be a revenue source

02:03:56.100 --> 02:04:01.580
if people want to watch it. I find this to be, I don't want to piss him off,

02:04:01.580 --> 02:04:05.940
but here, one sec. Oh, what now? Just a little website thing that annoys me.

02:04:07.020 --> 02:04:10.580
Okay, I'm on their website, I scroll down, scroll down.

02:04:10.580 --> 02:04:13.300
Oh, there's a footer, never mind. Scroll down.

02:04:14.460 --> 02:04:17.740
Oh, there's a footer, never mind. Scroll down.

02:04:17.740 --> 02:04:22.220
Is it their blog or something? Oh, there's a footer, never mind. Media, it's their media page.

02:04:22.220 --> 02:04:25.780
Oh, okay, brilliant. Yeah. It was like actually trying to click something down there.

02:04:25.780 --> 02:04:27.540
I was like, ah, come on.

02:04:29.300 --> 02:04:32.940
Rysau says, I think there's a very small overlap between tech people and badminton people.

02:04:32.940 --> 02:04:36.340
We're not talking badminton people though. They do like baseball and basketball.

02:04:36.340 --> 02:04:41.820
They have so many sports. Yeah, there's like a ton of sports and they have like real footage of people playing those sports

02:04:41.860 --> 02:04:45.260
that what appears to be a reasonably high level, so.

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Think about how many arenas and clubs and stuff

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there is just in the states alone though. Oh, yeah, no, for sure. Thousands, they're not saying tens of thousands.

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Just the high schools. Yeah, yeah.

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Palaitis says, I think his point still stands.

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What point? The overlap between athlete people and tech people.

02:05:05.940 --> 02:05:09.220
I mean, come on, let's give ourselves some credit people.

02:05:09.220 --> 02:05:13.580
Does Marquez not count? Yeah, see, that's what I'm talking about. You play badminton a lot.

02:05:13.580 --> 02:05:16.780
I used to do many a sport. Yeah, I used to, you know, he used to.

02:05:16.780 --> 02:05:21.020
Back in the day. Back in my day. Back in his day.

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Dude, we played this game called, we played this game called the voting game.

02:05:25.260 --> 02:05:31.500
Have you heard of it? I don't know, whatever. One of Yvonne's friends bought it on Temu or something.

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Basically, it just is full of cards that make a statement

02:05:36.180 --> 02:05:39.420
and then everyone is holding a number

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and they play that number anonymously and the number corresponds to someone around the table

02:05:43.700 --> 02:05:50.820
that they think matches the statement. And one of the statements was, they peaked in high school.

02:05:53.340 --> 02:05:59.500
I'd probably get a few of those. Yeah, anyway, it ended up being a very hurtful game.

02:05:59.500 --> 02:06:03.820
I'm sure. Overall. Yeah, yeah. I got, I got.

02:06:03.820 --> 02:06:09.820
Yeah, what were yours? That I was, oh, gives awkward hugs.

02:06:10.620 --> 02:06:16.460
Really? Was mine and Yvonne voted for me.

02:06:20.900 --> 02:06:25.460
My own wife. That's rough. Voted for me for gives awkward hugs.

02:06:25.460 --> 02:06:31.660
That's rough. She clarified, she didn't, she was like, no, I don't mean in like a like creepy weird way.

02:06:31.660 --> 02:06:34.980
I mean, in like a, you don't like touching people.

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And so it's kind of awkward when you touch people way.

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I mean, that lines up. Thanks. I've known you for like 15 years.

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I think we've hugged twice. Yeah, that sounds about right. I think I can name them.

02:06:47.220 --> 02:06:51.300
Yeah, that sounds about right. Yeah, I'm not, I'm not much of a,

02:06:51.300 --> 02:06:54.580
I'm not much of a physical contact guy in general.

02:06:54.580 --> 02:06:58.380
So when people. You started the like elbow bump thing at conventions.

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When people, y'all, dude, that's, that's like my line now.

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When people like are taken aback by the fist bump. I'm like, dude, look, I was a germaphobe way before it was cool.

02:07:08.100 --> 02:07:12.300
No. So when people, when people like going for the hug,

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I'm like, I don't know whether my ARM goes this way or my ARM goes this way.

02:07:16.300 --> 02:07:19.460
I'm also like kind of a weird height.

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Cause for a lot of men, I'm like, like in their shoulder.

02:07:23.300 --> 02:07:27.220
Probably have to like go like this to like.

02:07:27.220 --> 02:07:30.620
Anyway, I'm trying to think if there's any other ones

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that were really uncomfortable, but there were definitely.

02:07:35.300 --> 02:07:40.060
Oh, oh yeah. One of them was spends too much time maintaining their image

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on social media. Okay. Well, that was obvious.

02:07:43.180 --> 02:07:47.780
Of course. Did anyone else get a vote other than you? Yes. Wow.

02:07:47.780 --> 02:07:52.620
They were one of the moms. You know, because the thing is honestly,

02:07:52.620 --> 02:07:55.860
and I actually maintained that that was the correct answer

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because I spend, would you call anything that I do curating my image?

02:08:00.900 --> 02:08:05.180
Please. Yeah, all of it. You have staff curating?

02:08:05.180 --> 02:08:09.500
See, and the question specifically was that I spend

02:08:09.500 --> 02:08:12.580
a ton of my time doing it. He spends the time undoing everything

02:08:12.580 --> 02:08:14.340
that everyone else tries to do.

02:08:16.620 --> 02:08:20.100
This guy gets it. See, he's like anti that mom.

02:08:20.100 --> 02:08:23.500
Someone in chat called one of the two times, by the way.

02:08:23.500 --> 02:08:25.220
Oh, oh, where is it?

02:08:26.820 --> 02:08:31.620
Kuro identified it because one of the two times was at the roast.

02:08:31.620 --> 02:08:34.740
Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And then the other two time

02:08:34.740 --> 02:08:37.820
with the other time was when you tried to quit.

02:08:37.820 --> 02:08:41.060
Oh, okay. Three. Okay.

02:08:41.060 --> 02:08:44.740
Okay, I'm missing one. The 10 year plaque.

02:08:44.740 --> 02:08:49.780
Oh yeah. Yeah. That checks out. That checks out the 10 year, 10 year service award presentation.

02:08:49.780 --> 02:08:53.500
Wow. That is a, you know what though? That makes them special.

02:08:53.500 --> 02:08:56.700
Yeah. They really care. I don't care to be clear.

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Just in case anyone's like, no, I genuinely don't.

02:08:59.740 --> 02:09:03.620
They really count. Okay. Brownstein says, come online as everyone knows right ARM goes up,

02:09:03.620 --> 02:09:07.620
left ARM goes down and hug. I didn't know that. I don't hug people.

02:09:08.700 --> 02:09:12.380
Is that a thing? I think so. Is it one of those things?

02:09:12.380 --> 02:09:16.180
I didn't know the rule, but I think so. Is it one of those things like which side of the sidewalk

02:09:16.180 --> 02:09:21.420
you walk on where it depends what country you're in? Oh, maybe. If I'm in Australia or if I'm in the UK,

02:09:21.420 --> 02:09:24.740
do I go left ARM up? I don't know.

02:09:24.740 --> 02:09:28.220
Maybe. People are saying, I didn't know that.

02:09:28.220 --> 02:09:33.860
He made that up. Yeah. No. Okay. No, I don't. I go over the top with both arms says boosted.

02:09:33.860 --> 02:09:37.700
Well, I wish you'd been there for the game because then I wouldn't have had to win that one.

02:09:37.700 --> 02:09:42.220
That's definitely awkward. Did you win anything else?

02:09:42.220 --> 02:09:45.780
Oh, a ton of stuff. I don't really remember a lot of it.

02:09:45.780 --> 02:09:50.460
That's fair. Let me see. Let me see. My wife can remember anything.

02:09:50.460 --> 02:09:54.140
I definitely got roasted as much, if not more than anyone else.

02:09:55.340 --> 02:09:57.820
That much is certainly for sure. That makes sense.

02:09:59.140 --> 02:10:03.260
Penny. Hey, wife, you're live on the WAN Show. Can I ask you a quick question?

02:10:03.260 --> 02:10:07.180
Yeah. You sound in the middle of something.

02:10:07.180 --> 02:10:10.980
Oh, I am, but what's up? Hey, when we were playing the voting game,

02:10:10.980 --> 02:10:14.300
can you remember any of the awful ones that I got voted for

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other than the awkward hug one?

02:10:17.740 --> 02:10:18.580
Oh, man.

02:10:21.460 --> 02:10:27.300
I think you got voted for, like, who was the one that took the most recent selfie.

02:10:27.300 --> 02:10:29.060
Oh, yeah, I did win that one.

02:10:30.580 --> 02:10:33.740
Okay, in fairness to me, though, there was a very good reason for taking it.

02:10:33.740 --> 02:10:36.900
It was like a, no, I was on set,

02:10:36.900 --> 02:10:40.380
and I was testing selfie cameras compared to my daily driver phone.

02:10:40.380 --> 02:10:43.140
Like, it wasn't because I was all, like, at the club, and I was like,

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like, come on. I don't, I don't, I don't know if that really counts that much.

02:10:47.700 --> 02:10:51.900
Someone's gonna screen shot that. You also got voted for, like, who was most likely to yell at you

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for putting garbage in recycling or recycling garbage or something like that.

02:10:56.060 --> 02:10:59.220
Oh. Yeah, I won that one.

02:10:59.220 --> 02:11:02.500
Yeah, I could see that. Okay, you know what, I think we're gonna,

02:11:02.500 --> 02:11:07.140
this is a good conversation. Thank you very much. I'll see you soon, hun.

02:11:07.140 --> 02:11:10.580
Bye. Okay, bye. Bye. Yeah, I got voted.

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I, and the reason that I won that one was because the last time one of those people was over,

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I, like, I, like, moved with some stuff that they had put away after they left it,

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like, started resorting it.

02:11:23.620 --> 02:11:27.820
I am, I am not like, I'm not militant about it or anything like that.

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For me, it's more just that sometimes it really is

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no more work at all to do it properly.

02:11:35.380 --> 02:11:39.420
So in those cases where it is literally not more work at all.

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Oh no. I don't know, it just seems like not more work

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to put it in the right thing. And I, I, I definitely, garbage and recycling, I'm a little less fussy about.

02:11:49.420 --> 02:11:54.540
But when it comes to organics in the garbage, I actually do legitimately get kind of upset about that.

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Oh, well, that doesn't count. Yeah. It doesn't count. Like, come on, don't put organic stuff in the garbage.

02:12:02.460 --> 02:12:06.780
I, I had this, I had this book when I was a kid.

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It was super cool. I've never been able to find it again. It must have been like a really limited print,

02:12:11.100 --> 02:12:15.900
but it was called, it had an aluminum cover.

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And one of the first article, or one of the first chapters in it was like explaining it,

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or maybe it wasn't one of the first, but somewhere in it, it explained the process of like recycling aluminum

02:12:25.660 --> 02:12:29.700
and how the cover was, I had gone through that process. It was super cool.

02:12:29.700 --> 02:12:32.980
I really forget what it was called. Maybe like cabinet of curiosities.

02:12:32.980 --> 02:12:36.780
Maybe it was something else. No, I think that might've been a different book. The point is it doesn't matter. That sounds pretty sick though.

02:12:36.780 --> 02:12:40.580
It, yeah, it was a super cool like little like science book. It's a cool physical demonstration, yeah.

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And one of the chapters in it was about the decomposition

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of organic material or rather the lack thereof in landfills

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because it becomes an anaerobic environment with no light.

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You can dig a hot dog out of a landfill 20 years later

02:12:57.340 --> 02:13:02.460
and it will, like it had a picture of a hot dog that was like ancient and it looked like you could just

02:13:03.700 --> 02:13:06.460
barbecue it and eat it. Like it was, it was crazy.

02:13:08.180 --> 02:13:11.300
And so yeah, definitely. The design and engineering behind landfills

02:13:11.300 --> 02:13:15.460
is like actually surprisingly very interesting. It gets me very upset though

02:13:15.460 --> 02:13:22.860
to see organic material thrown into the landfill when it could be composted and reused, but anywho.

02:13:23.580 --> 02:13:28.100
What are we supposed to be talking about? No one cares about play site thing.

02:13:28.100 --> 02:13:32.860
No one knows what the heck it is. So apparently I have to commit to a multi-year term

02:13:32.860 --> 02:13:36.020
in order to like even, yeah, they don't have a trial,

02:13:36.020 --> 02:13:39.260
unfortunately, although I wonder if we BYO hardware,

02:13:40.300 --> 02:13:44.820
if they might be able to make an exception on that. Cause part of their whole deal is that they give you

02:13:44.820 --> 02:13:48.500
the cameras on the server and then you sign up for a multi-year deal.

02:13:48.500 --> 02:13:55.300
What if it just sucks? Well, then I guess you should have get good scrub.

02:13:55.300 --> 02:13:59.180
Do they realize that if it sucks, they're probably gonna get like dragged?

02:14:00.380 --> 02:14:03.740
Oh, they had no idea who we were. Really? Yeah.

02:14:03.740 --> 02:14:07.860
He was explaining to me about like the specs of their server and how it has all their technology.

02:14:07.860 --> 02:14:10.620
And I was like, dude, don't tell me what technology is in a server, please.

02:14:11.380 --> 02:14:15.620
Weird. Well, remember too, whoever like watches LTT

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is not necessarily gonna be in their sales department. That's another small overlap.

02:14:20.060 --> 02:14:23.660
Like sales people and people who watch LTT. Probably someone they're new,

02:14:23.660 --> 02:14:25.700
but that isn't the person who reached it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:14:28.100 --> 02:14:32.140
Anyway. AJ, the feature that I think is the hardest to replicate

02:14:32.140 --> 02:14:35.980
would be like the tips. Cause they give you like feedback on your gameplay,

02:14:35.980 --> 02:14:40.620
don't they? I doubt they would be able to do that for badminton given they don't even officially support the sport.

02:14:40.620 --> 02:14:46.380
They claimed they did. I asked this. Even the rep was like, yeah, we're looking to get into it.

02:14:47.380 --> 02:14:51.100
Yeah. I knew they would just lie to get on a call. That's so common.

02:14:51.100 --> 02:14:56.380
Honestly, it still looks like it might be, it might still be pretty good.

02:14:56.380 --> 02:15:01.020
But I would- So AJ, we have enough work to do. I would really want to try it. Yeah, yeah, that too.

02:15:01.020 --> 02:15:04.780
That too. I think we're still waiting on getting some of the other

02:15:04.780 --> 02:15:07.780
in for stuff there, like prepped for LAN parties and stuff.

02:15:07.780 --> 02:15:11.860
Like I don't think we're anywhere near getting all the cameras hooked up.

02:15:11.860 --> 02:15:14.980
Dan and I are still going back and forth on what cameras

02:15:14.980 --> 02:15:18.900
we want to use. Requirements are changing, I think.

02:15:18.900 --> 02:15:21.900
Oh. No, no, like from original.

02:15:21.900 --> 02:15:27.460
Like we discussed this the other day. Yeah. I mean, I don't know if they've changed since the original

02:15:27.460 --> 02:15:31.020
requirements. It's just that the camera that I found that I really liked

02:15:31.020 --> 02:15:35.780
that met all of my requirements, Dan found that their implementation of our TMP was really bad.

02:15:36.780 --> 02:15:40.500
It was really disappointing. But we might be able to still use it.

02:15:40.500 --> 02:15:41.340
No, AJ.

02:15:43.860 --> 02:15:47.300
Let AJ cook. No, we don't want to do badminton video,

02:15:47.300 --> 02:15:50.900
mass ingest and distribution through full of plane. No.

02:15:50.900 --> 02:15:54.420
No, we really don't. It can't be that hard.

02:15:54.420 --> 02:15:59.260
No, stop. No, we're just going to stream for free on Twitch.

02:15:59.260 --> 02:16:00.100
And,

02:16:02.460 --> 02:16:04.980
I was going to make that reference, he beat me to it.

02:16:06.220 --> 02:16:11.340
Oh. Okay. I think it's time for After Dark.

02:16:11.340 --> 02:16:14.500
Okay. Sick. So we have a new thing and it's at the bottom of the dock

02:16:14.500 --> 02:16:17.940
where you have to read about the Floatplane announcements now. I do.

02:16:17.940 --> 02:16:21.780
Oh, yeah. What's that? Where's that? At the, right above sponsors, right below the last one.

02:16:21.780 --> 02:16:25.500
Watch video. Okay, I can watch a video. Oh my God.

02:16:25.500 --> 02:16:29.260
Well, this is off to a good start. Oh, I guess we're going to need audio.

02:16:29.260 --> 02:16:33.140
This automatically looks amazing. I am so excited.

02:16:34.420 --> 02:16:36.100
Are you ready, Dan? I think so.

02:16:37.700 --> 02:16:40.900
Oh. Whoa!

02:16:40.900 --> 02:16:41.740
Oh, yes!

02:16:45.740 --> 02:16:48.340
Here we go. Get the float through there.

02:16:51.220 --> 02:16:55.020
It's perfect! It's alive! Oh my God.

02:16:55.020 --> 02:16:58.020
And it's Alex with ConfloatPlaying. Get subscribed, here's the preview.

02:16:58.020 --> 02:17:01.020
What is the line in your opinion between janky and stupid?

02:17:01.020 --> 02:17:04.860
If it plays well and is amusing in a video, then it's janky?

02:17:04.860 --> 02:17:08.940
I have a 21-inch concert speaker that we got in for a while ago.

02:17:08.940 --> 02:17:12.060
It would be really funny to put it in the back of Linus' van.

02:17:12.060 --> 02:17:15.100
I suspect that it would be large and powerful enough

02:17:15.100 --> 02:17:17.140
to literally blow out the Windows.

02:17:20.020 --> 02:17:21.300
Wow, that was great.

02:17:24.940 --> 02:17:29.780
Please put in guitar sounds there, Sammy. Instructions unclear.

02:17:29.780 --> 02:17:33.180
That intro was genuinely amazing. He said it was his magnum opus.

02:17:33.180 --> 02:17:36.420
That's actually so good. 10 out of 10, good job, Sammy.

02:17:36.420 --> 02:17:41.140
Not only was the concept great, but Alex killed that. That was fantastic.

02:17:41.140 --> 02:17:44.180
We will have three separate videos dedicated to Alex

02:17:44.180 --> 02:17:50.340
as you saw in the trailer, so make sure to subscribe at LMG.gg slash alex25.

02:17:51.580 --> 02:17:56.660
That was so good. Those are all coming very soon. And is this Alex at the top of the thing?

02:17:56.660 --> 02:18:00.220
Yeah. Okay, that makes sense. Oh, he's in the icon, too.

02:18:00.220 --> 02:18:04.780
I can barely even recognize him there. Okay, that's a little more, that's more recognizable.

02:18:04.780 --> 02:18:08.580
This is uncomfortable. Yeah, I think Sammy's been doing that for a bit.

02:18:08.580 --> 02:18:14.180
Yeah, okay, good stuff. The sparking paintbrush is absolutely ace tier.

02:18:14.180 --> 02:18:17.460
Amazing. All right, Dan, time for After Dark.

02:18:17.460 --> 02:18:21.180
Sure, sure, let me get us switched over here.

02:18:21.180 --> 02:18:27.020
Dude, I don't remember the last time we launched an apparel product that resonated like this.

02:18:27.020 --> 02:18:29.940
This has been spicy. Yeah.

02:18:30.940 --> 02:18:34.980
Poor Dan still has 15 messages in incoming.

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I am just about done with him. Sheesh.

02:18:41.540 --> 02:18:46.180
Is it dividing up? Do we have people voting with their wallet?

02:18:46.180 --> 02:18:49.620
Yeah, like what's winning? Yeah, oh, we should definitely guess

02:18:49.620 --> 02:18:53.780
before I look it up, though. Okay. Okay, hold on, let me just get the dashboard open

02:18:53.780 --> 02:18:58.140
so that people aren't gonna have to wait too long here. You have to do ranks voting, rank list voting.

02:18:58.140 --> 02:19:01.340
Oh my goodness. Okay, yeah, I can do that.

02:19:01.340 --> 02:19:04.780
No, no, no, I'm just saying, like, oh, I thought with us three, yeah.

02:19:05.740 --> 02:19:09.900
Yeah, no, we should do rank choice voting. Yeah, yeah. For which, or no, we should just have to,

02:19:09.900 --> 02:19:12.980
no, we should just say what we think our podium is.

02:19:12.980 --> 02:19:16.940
Okay, yeah, that's what I'm saying. Oh, sure, sure, sure, sure, okay.

02:19:16.940 --> 02:19:21.020
And are we guessing, are we saying which one we like better and seeing if we agree with the community

02:19:21.020 --> 02:19:27.420
or are we guessing which one's sold better? I'm honestly, I think I'm doing both.

02:19:27.420 --> 02:19:33.060
You're gonna do both. When you think it'll be the same. You believe that our community's tastes

02:19:33.060 --> 02:19:36.380
will be perfectly aligned with your own. Yep, me too.

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Pipe, pipe. Interesting. Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.

02:19:39.380 --> 02:19:41.660
So everyone, everyone, okay?

02:19:42.660 --> 02:19:47.380
Zip it, we all, have you written it down? I wrote it down. You're done already, okay, okay.

02:19:47.380 --> 02:19:49.820
So, and to be clear, they're all amazing.

02:19:51.900 --> 02:19:55.140
They're all great. Dude, you gotta do the thing. I wrote it.

02:19:55.140 --> 02:19:58.420
Here in that one. What? I'm gonna give him a ding for saying

02:19:58.420 --> 02:20:01.540
the amazing shirt is amazing. He wasn't intending to.

02:20:01.540 --> 02:20:05.000
No, I did this. You did. Oh. Yes, sorry.

02:20:05.000 --> 02:20:12.520
He gets a ding. You get a ding. I'm sorry, Luke. Okay, okay, so we all reveal our guesses.

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Let's have Dan go first. I'm going with pipe, doors, maze.

02:20:19.260 --> 02:20:22.820
Okay. Pipe, doors, maze. You differ, you differ.

02:20:22.820 --> 02:20:27.100
Okay, so hold on Dan. Dan is pipe, doors.

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I could see that being correct, but mine differs. And Luke is.

02:20:30.740 --> 02:20:32.220
Doors, pipes, maze.

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And in a massive surprise to everyone.

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Doors, pipes, maze. I live in Luke's head, apparently.

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Wait, did you write down what you thought I was gonna say? No. Oh, okay.

02:20:47.540 --> 02:20:50.980
No, I just, we just, I don't know. It's like, we just, we order the same thing at restaurants.

02:20:50.980 --> 02:20:53.780
It does happen. It's a whole thing, you know?

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I've literally had people ask me what I'm gonna order at a restaurant before

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knowing that Linus has ordered first. And without looking at the menu,

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I'll just say whatever Linus got, I don't know. I'm sure it's fine. And it's literally always been fine.

02:21:07.060 --> 02:21:10.980
I'm a very safe food order right now. That's probably part of it.

02:21:10.980 --> 02:21:15.260
That is fair. I tend to just go with like, I don't know, what's a bowl that just like everything in it

02:21:15.260 --> 02:21:18.460
is sort of universally believed to be delicious.

02:21:18.460 --> 02:21:24.180
I'll just go with that. It's a pretty good approach. Soup is so underrated, it bothers me.

02:21:24.180 --> 02:21:29.740
It can be a little hit or miss though. I like to see their top tier or absolutely weak.

02:21:29.740 --> 02:21:32.940
But I don't think it's that hard to make really good soup.

02:21:32.940 --> 02:21:36.740
No. Would you go to a restaurant and order soup? I have.

02:21:36.740 --> 02:21:40.420
Oh yeah, oh yeah, sure. For like, good French onion soup. Good French onion soup.

02:21:40.420 --> 02:21:43.460
Yes, please. Clam chowder, dude. Okay.

02:21:45.300 --> 02:21:49.940
It can also be horrible though. I don't really do a lot of fish anyway, so.

02:21:50.060 --> 02:21:53.180
I wouldn't know. Both amazing.

02:21:53.180 --> 02:21:56.100
Okay. All right.

02:21:57.260 --> 02:21:58.380
18 results.

02:22:00.660 --> 02:22:04.380
Oh man, this is broken down by- Size? Also sizes, bloody hell.

02:22:04.380 --> 02:22:07.460
No, no, I think I can work it out. I think I can work it out.

02:22:08.620 --> 02:22:14.140
Oh, I don't know if I can work it out. Oh no. Okay, someone's gonna have to do the math for me here.

02:22:14.140 --> 02:22:18.900
Do you want me to pull up the things and have a look? Okay, no, no, no, no, no, no, I got you, I got you.

02:22:18.940 --> 02:22:22.340
Okay, so the various sizes. Okay, so doors.

02:22:22.340 --> 02:22:26.780
You got this, Luke? I've got six.

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23, 24, 29, 35, and 44.

02:22:40.580 --> 02:22:43.740
Okay, for maze. Hold on. No, no, we'll get all the numbers first.

02:22:43.740 --> 02:22:47.300
We'll get all the numbers first, because someone in chat will probably just do it for us anyway.

02:22:47.300 --> 02:22:54.820
Maze, I've got one. 14, 14, 17, 17, 18.

02:22:59.260 --> 02:23:03.460
Dan, I think, oh no, we all said that maze would be in last.

02:23:03.460 --> 02:23:06.820
Oh, okay. We did. So now we just need doors?

02:23:06.820 --> 02:23:10.460
Pipes. Oh, we need pipes. Which? I gave you doors first.

02:23:10.460 --> 02:23:13.620
Okay, pipes, pipes. Okay, here comes pipes. Seven.

02:23:13.620 --> 02:23:17.180
Uh-oh. 25.

02:23:17.180 --> 02:23:21.340
Okay, there we go. 27. Whoa.

02:23:21.340 --> 02:23:24.620
29. Whoa. 31.

02:23:24.620 --> 02:23:30.260
Whoa. But it falls behind in the large size

02:23:30.260 --> 02:23:33.660
at 42. 42. 42.

02:23:33.660 --> 02:23:37.180
Whoa. No. What?

02:23:37.180 --> 02:23:40.900
It's the same. They're dead here. They're tied. They're tied.

02:23:40.900 --> 02:23:43.420
Shut up, they're tied. They're tied. 161.

02:23:44.260 --> 02:23:48.420
No. That's no one is winners.

02:23:48.420 --> 02:23:51.700
That's wild. Dang it, nobody called that. No.

02:23:51.700 --> 02:23:55.260
Nobody, hell. Okay. Wow.

02:23:55.260 --> 02:23:58.860
Well, that was fun. Okay, tell me this. Wow.

02:23:58.860 --> 02:24:03.300
Incredible. Now, normally, and I, that's a joke,

02:24:03.300 --> 02:24:08.660
because normal curve. Anyway, the point is normally, medium would be our,

02:24:08.660 --> 02:24:12.300
would be the peak of our bell curve.

02:24:12.300 --> 02:24:17.340
If you had to guess, would you say that this particular product

02:24:17.340 --> 02:24:20.580
skews more petite or more husky?

02:24:20.580 --> 02:24:23.940
Bigger, bigger. Bigger for sure. Bigger for sure.

02:24:23.940 --> 02:24:26.300
Average audience buying it would probably be older.

02:24:28.260 --> 02:24:33.100
Generally larger. I have never seen anything skew this heavily large.

02:24:33.100 --> 02:24:38.620
Yeah. Large is number one, followed very closely by extra large,

02:24:39.020 --> 02:24:41.700
followed closely by medium,

02:24:42.980 --> 02:24:48.420
followed distantly by small. Yeah. All of them are like bigger body builders than Luke,

02:24:48.420 --> 02:24:51.500
because anybody that would buy this shirt would be just huge.

02:24:51.500 --> 02:24:55.580
Just chatted. Just chatted. Absolutely chatted. Muscle-bound chad.

02:24:55.580 --> 02:24:59.460
Absolutely chatted. Or a short king, one of the two.

02:24:59.460 --> 02:25:03.140
Yes. Anyway, yeah, pretty interesting.

02:25:03.140 --> 02:25:06.300
So I guess we all get to be pretty big.

02:25:06.540 --> 02:25:11.500
So I guess we all get to be both wrong and right sort of-ish.

02:25:11.500 --> 02:25:14.100
Yeah, great job, everyone. Good work.

02:25:15.580 --> 02:25:19.100
Ooh, trophies. What else we got today? Oh, more merge messages.

02:25:19.100 --> 02:25:22.580
Should we just get into some merge messages? Yeah, hit me, Dan. That sound.

02:25:22.580 --> 02:25:26.260
Let's see, we already did that one. Hi, LLD.

02:25:26.260 --> 02:25:29.540
Over the past years, I've gotten many letters from healthcare providers

02:25:29.540 --> 02:25:34.060
telling me that I'm impacted by a data breach. They all offer one to two years of credit monitoring.

02:25:34.060 --> 02:25:36.220
Should they be doing more? Yes.

02:25:39.820 --> 02:25:44.220
Yep. Yep. Sorry, don't have a ton to add.

02:25:44.220 --> 02:25:49.020
Credit monitoring doesn't even do that much. It just tells you after the fact that something bad happened.

02:25:49.020 --> 02:25:52.380
By the way, if you haven't been checking your credit card statement or anything else.

02:25:52.380 --> 02:25:56.340
Yeah, like, man, TransUnion and Equifax

02:25:56.340 --> 02:25:58.300
and those guys, like, ugh.

02:26:00.620 --> 02:26:03.740
Yucky industry. By the way, this is funny.

02:26:03.740 --> 02:26:07.180
IIRFTW says this is peak large IT guy

02:26:07.180 --> 02:26:10.260
needing to wear a collar for work, but knowing he can't be fired.

02:26:12.380 --> 02:26:15.140
Oh, this is a, this is cobalt programming club.

02:26:18.100 --> 02:26:22.260
Hey Linus, hope your motorcycle is going well. Wondering if you have any wrecks for helmet

02:26:22.260 --> 02:26:26.100
or music call systems. Also possibility on some of the car play systems

02:26:26.100 --> 02:26:31.060
or HUDs, interesting bike tech out there. I haven't ridden in over two years

02:26:31.060 --> 02:26:35.580
while I've been painting my bike. I have made zero progress in the last week.

02:26:35.580 --> 02:26:40.140
When I get back into it, I am somewhat interested in looking into some in helmet stuff,

02:26:40.140 --> 02:26:43.460
but honestly, the most advanced thing

02:26:43.460 --> 02:26:46.740
that I ever implemented was wired speakers

02:26:46.740 --> 02:26:50.740
that were just like little flat speakers that were ripped off of some cost headphones

02:26:50.740 --> 02:26:55.700
that I double sided taped into my helmet and then just like cable managed down.

02:26:55.700 --> 02:26:58.820
And then I plugged into a phone that was in my pocket

02:26:58.820 --> 02:27:02.180
with a three and a half millimeter jack and then I had a pebble smartphone,

02:27:02.420 --> 02:27:08.580
hot glued to a magnet and then magnet it onto the dash of my bike so that I could change the track.

02:27:08.580 --> 02:27:12.140
That's as good as I ever got. And then if I needed directions,

02:27:12.140 --> 02:27:15.180
I would just use turn by turn, which is really annoying when you're listening to music.

02:27:15.180 --> 02:27:21.380
It sucks. Hey, LLD, with myself going to college this upcoming fall

02:27:21.380 --> 02:27:26.060
for computer and electrical engineering, I wanted to ask what education got you interested

02:27:26.060 --> 02:27:31.020
into tech, also a big fan of the channel. Computer lab, computer lab in school, man,

02:27:31.020 --> 02:27:34.380
playing that Dino Park Tycoon, playing that math circus.

02:27:34.380 --> 02:27:38.220
I got into games extremely young

02:27:38.220 --> 02:27:42.900
and then most of my motivation for learning about computers was so that my games would run better.

02:27:42.900 --> 02:27:47.340
Yeah, I started my core interest in computers

02:27:47.340 --> 02:27:50.340
other than my dad just pushing me to be interested in it

02:27:50.340 --> 02:27:54.500
was because I wanted to be able to play Diablo on land with my buddy.

02:27:54.500 --> 02:27:58.580
And I was like, how does this work? I need to, something, something.

02:27:58.580 --> 02:28:02.660
TCPIP, IPX, SPX. They're all these words, why do they matter?

02:28:02.660 --> 02:28:05.660
Yeah, and then, yeah, it was largely,

02:28:05.660 --> 02:28:11.180
I want to be able, I want to understand, because money's tight, I want to understand

02:28:11.180 --> 02:28:16.140
what upgrades are important so that I can keep playing new games as they come out and stuff like that.

02:28:16.140 --> 02:28:20.220
And then I had an affinity for it when I went to school.

02:28:20.220 --> 02:28:23.300
So I joined that class and my computer's teacher was amazing.

02:28:23.300 --> 02:28:26.180
So that helped a lot. Yeah.

02:28:26.660 --> 02:28:30.660
Hey, LLD, for Luke, I hope you like that this will be used

02:28:30.660 --> 02:28:35.620
by our spacecraft systems engineering team to build small sets and cube sets.

02:28:35.620 --> 02:28:38.860
What are some of your favorite missions that you have read about? Oh, it's for drivers or something.

02:28:38.860 --> 02:28:43.580
Oh. They purchased a precision multi-bit and the case.

02:28:43.580 --> 02:28:47.580
Sick. This wouldn't necessarily be read about.

02:28:47.580 --> 02:28:50.580
That's so cool. But it's very cool.

02:28:50.580 --> 02:28:54.100
Yeah, LTT precision driver working on satellites.

02:28:54.100 --> 02:28:57.500
Is that sick? Right? And it's perfect for the cube sets

02:28:57.500 --> 02:29:00.900
because they're pretty small. It's amazing. That's so cool.

02:29:02.900 --> 02:29:04.900
Project light sale.

02:29:05.900 --> 02:29:06.900
Light sale.

02:29:09.500 --> 02:29:12.900
Oh my God, I'm getting an ad for Ari's tech.

02:29:12.900 --> 02:29:13.740
No, dude.

02:29:16.740 --> 02:29:19.740
Have we had this conversation on WAN Show before?

02:29:19.740 --> 02:29:23.580
No, no. Have we had this conversation on WAN Show before?

02:29:23.580 --> 02:29:28.100
The one about like how far up an organization

02:29:28.100 --> 02:29:34.740
you have to go to reach the level where people know it's a grift, you know?

02:29:34.740 --> 02:29:39.900
Because I do believe that there are people who work in that organization or, you know,

02:29:39.900 --> 02:29:46.540
Scientology or, you know, whatever, right? Like surely L Ron Hubbard knew it was a grift

02:29:46.540 --> 02:29:51.900
and his like accountant must have known it was a grift. You know, sometimes you might just actually be crazy.

02:29:51.900 --> 02:29:59.780
I mean, that is possible. That's possible. But I can't believe that about every grift organization.

02:29:59.860 --> 02:30:03.620
For sure. I can't believe that. Yeah, I'm just saying like sometimes.

02:30:03.620 --> 02:30:07.140
How far up? And I think there's also probably like a,

02:30:08.180 --> 02:30:11.460
I think there's also probably like a time element

02:30:11.460 --> 02:30:14.620
to this as well. Like if you look at, you know-

02:30:14.620 --> 02:30:22.100
Time yourself long enough or something? Well, yeah. If you look at some very large organizations in the world

02:30:22.380 --> 02:30:28.060
that have been around for a very long time accumulating vast amounts of wealth in the process,

02:30:28.060 --> 02:30:32.340
you know, at some point, someone probably knew it was a grift.

02:30:32.340 --> 02:30:38.380
Yeah. And, but maybe that knowledge died out

02:30:38.380 --> 02:30:42.580
and people who were indoctrinated made their way up into the upper ranks.

02:30:42.580 --> 02:30:46.180
Oh, I'm sure that's a thing. And people no longer like know.

02:30:46.180 --> 02:30:50.140
Yeah. A person, one, two, three in full-plane chat said,

02:30:50.140 --> 02:30:54.660
in quotes, but I don't know if it's a quote or not, never underestimate the ability of someone

02:30:54.660 --> 02:30:57.460
to not know something if their paycheck depends on it.

02:30:58.860 --> 02:31:02.220
That sounds like- There's a lot of that. That sounds correct, Luke. Yeah, thank you.

02:31:03.900 --> 02:31:07.420
Yeah. So, how?

02:31:09.940 --> 02:31:13.100
He's so smart. How high up? I like my John.

02:31:17.180 --> 02:31:21.300
Okay. Sorry, Linus. I missed that and I'm probably glad I did.

02:31:21.300 --> 02:31:27.940
How high up do you have to go in an organization like Airsteck for them to know it's a grift, you think?

02:31:27.940 --> 02:31:31.220
Cause I do actually believe that some of the influencers

02:31:31.220 --> 02:31:34.660
like believe in 5G, you know, whatever,

02:31:34.660 --> 02:31:39.060
radiations, killing plants or whatever, right? Like there's certainly going to be some that do.

02:31:39.060 --> 02:31:43.260
If you're not working on administrative teams

02:31:43.260 --> 02:31:45.740
or engineering teams at that company,

02:31:46.380 --> 02:31:50.300
when are you exposed to, does it work or not? Yeah.

02:31:50.300 --> 02:31:53.780
Probably not that often. Cause like the engineers would know. Well, I'm sure.

02:31:53.780 --> 02:31:58.020
If they even have any, like, yeah. Right.

02:31:58.020 --> 02:32:02.420
And like the- The product designers, I guess. Yeah, the product designers would have to know

02:32:02.420 --> 02:32:06.260
cause they'd have to know that they're just like drawing-

02:32:06.260 --> 02:32:10.020
There's a weird part of this job that I would expect we would be doing that we're not doing.

02:32:10.020 --> 02:32:13.180
Yeah. Yeah.

02:32:13.180 --> 02:32:17.420
But beyond that, like- People running their hilarious demos. Do you think they're sales people

02:32:17.420 --> 02:32:21.380
and marketing people know it's a grift or do they just recruit the believers?

02:32:24.220 --> 02:32:28.980
I'm sure there's an ability to recruit the believers there. There's also this concept of like, you know,

02:32:28.980 --> 02:32:32.260
if you tell yourself something enough, you will start to believe it.

02:32:32.260 --> 02:32:36.300
And if you believe something to a certain degree

02:32:36.300 --> 02:32:40.580
and people push you on it and you just get defensive,

02:32:40.580 --> 02:32:45.420
you can like build up a fortress of things that aren't necessarily true, you might not necessarily even realize it.

02:32:45.420 --> 02:32:49.100
Right. There's a lot of weird things, like-

02:32:49.100 --> 02:32:52.740
Human brains are funny, funny. I was talking to Emma about this the other day.

02:32:52.740 --> 02:32:56.740
The fact that everyone just shrugs off the placebo effect is wild.

02:32:56.740 --> 02:33:01.820
Oh yeah, placebo effect is huge. Like actually one of the most wild things ever.

02:33:01.820 --> 02:33:07.100
Like seriously, one of the best things you can do if you like literally get cancer

02:33:07.100 --> 02:33:12.180
is to just believe that you're gonna make it. Yeah. Like it's not a guarantee,

02:33:12.180 --> 02:33:15.900
but the difference that it makes to survival rates,

02:33:15.900 --> 02:33:21.980
to have a positive attitude and think you're gonna beat something is wild.

02:33:21.980 --> 02:33:26.580
Yeah. Like wild. I've also heard warts is a huge one.

02:33:26.580 --> 02:33:31.420
If you just think about your wart going away, that's like medical science at this point.

02:33:33.260 --> 02:33:36.940
Yeah. Yeah. That's insane. I don't know.

02:33:36.940 --> 02:33:40.980
That's like a real, real thing. But like Sony people will hear about placebo

02:33:40.980 --> 02:33:44.020
for the first time and just be like, yeah. It's like what?

02:33:44.020 --> 02:33:49.260
There's also no nocebo. You can't also talk about one without the other one.

02:33:49.260 --> 02:33:53.420
The negative effects. You think that this medication is gonna hurt you and then it actually hurts you.

02:33:53.420 --> 02:33:57.380
Yeah. Even if it doesn't. Even if it's placebo or fake.

02:33:57.380 --> 02:34:00.540
You're just making up that it has negative side effects. Yeah, exactly.

02:34:00.540 --> 02:34:04.220
Like you get more warts. This is why real medical trials need controls

02:34:04.220 --> 02:34:07.340
and everything needs to be double blind and all of that stuff. Absolutely.

02:34:07.340 --> 02:34:12.340
I was telling Emma I'm really happy that people do research on this stuff and to a certain degree in certain cases,

02:34:12.340 --> 02:34:15.860
I think it's probably beneficial for me to not know more.

02:34:15.860 --> 02:34:20.060
Right. It's a real witchcraft. Cause like if I think it's gonna work,

02:34:20.060 --> 02:34:23.340
once I get to that conclusion, as long as I'm certain it's not gonna like

02:34:23.340 --> 02:34:27.060
be really harmful for me, I don't wanna know more. Yeah.

02:34:27.060 --> 02:34:30.980
Because if I think it's gonna work, then okay, cool. And then if you find, you know,

02:34:30.980 --> 02:34:35.300
some like doctor, YouTuber or something that's like,

02:34:35.300 --> 02:34:39.140
yeah, actually the whole thing's a grift, then now it has no chance of working.

02:34:39.380 --> 02:34:43.260
It stops working. It might have been working. It might have been working because you might,

02:34:43.260 --> 02:34:47.540
and like that doesn't make Luke an idiot. It just makes him a human being.

02:34:47.540 --> 02:34:51.500
We are. This happens to all of us. We are so, so flawed.

02:34:51.500 --> 02:34:54.900
All the time, placebo effect doesn't just affect

02:34:54.900 --> 02:35:00.300
medicine stuff, it affects your ability to perform in like sport, in basically everything.

02:35:00.300 --> 02:35:04.220
If you, yeah, it's wild. Remember when we were at the gym

02:35:04.220 --> 02:35:08.180
and I thought I was lifting 40 pounds cause I can't do math. This was nuts.

02:35:08.220 --> 02:35:15.140
This happened many times. This was nuts. He genuinely lifted like a lot more than his previous max

02:35:15.140 --> 02:35:18.460
and lifted it multiple times. I did like a full PR set.

02:35:18.460 --> 02:35:22.740
And then realized when he was done, that he had lifted like 20 pounds more than last time.

02:35:22.740 --> 02:35:27.020
Cause I miscounted. But he was enormous. I forgot to include the bar

02:35:27.020 --> 02:35:30.980
and then like went up 45 pounds and was just like, this is only five more.

02:35:30.980 --> 02:35:34.340
And then just like benched it for eight. We are recommending that.

02:35:34.340 --> 02:35:37.620
No, no, no, no, no. We are not recommending that. No, no.

02:35:37.660 --> 02:35:41.900
I could have seriously hurt myself. At all. Yeah. And we talked about that afterwards actually.

02:35:41.900 --> 02:35:45.500
Absolutely, absolutely. Extremely dangerous.

02:35:45.500 --> 02:35:49.380
But it's just wild that his brain was like, this is fine. It's only 20 pounds.

02:35:49.380 --> 02:35:53.380
And then it just happened. And then he was just able to lift at that level moving forward

02:35:53.380 --> 02:35:56.940
because he now had evidence that he could. I mean, the brain, mind, body connection

02:35:56.940 --> 02:35:59.700
is really, really important for lifting weights anyway.

02:36:00.860 --> 02:36:04.300
And so if I was just saying, yeah, I can lift this. And then my body did.

02:36:04.300 --> 02:36:08.940
Wow. MavsGuy842 says that's why getting volunteers

02:36:08.940 --> 02:36:14.300
to work on your grift organization is awesome because then you know they believe in it.

02:36:14.300 --> 02:36:19.300
And that makes the grift organization so much more powerful and so much more persuasive.

02:36:19.300 --> 02:36:24.700
Whoa. That's awful. That makes so much sense though.

02:36:24.700 --> 02:36:26.380
Oh yeah. 100%.

02:36:28.500 --> 02:36:32.220
Porto says, I hate the world. Yeah.

02:36:32.220 --> 02:36:37.740
The world isn't the problem. The world's got trees and things.

02:36:37.740 --> 02:36:42.780
Anyways, talking about cool things. Someone asked me my favorite thing that I read

02:36:42.780 --> 02:36:47.060
about my favorite, I don't know, something to do with space that I read about.

02:36:47.060 --> 02:36:50.300
And I, what? No, no, carry on.

02:36:50.300 --> 02:36:53.780
Oh, did I rip away the screen? I was showing it. Oh, well, here you go.

02:36:53.780 --> 02:36:55.860
I contributed to this back in the day.

02:36:57.340 --> 02:37:00.940
And it was super cool. So you contributed to this? What did you do?

02:37:00.940 --> 02:37:04.580
Oh, no, money. Oh, geez, okay. I was like, what?

02:37:04.580 --> 02:37:09.740
I was not functionally useful. How have I never heard about this? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

02:37:09.740 --> 02:37:12.980
It was, yeah, a little, I think it was a CubeSat,

02:37:12.980 --> 02:37:19.660
technically, little satellite. And they had this enormous sail that they put on it

02:37:19.660 --> 02:37:23.860
that unfolded when it got out there because technically light has momentum.

02:37:24.860 --> 02:37:29.660
So that's why it's called light sail because they're using light as a propulsion.

02:37:29.660 --> 02:37:33.700
Right. Which is super cool. Yeah, and it totally wouldn't have worked unless they believed it would.

02:37:35.140 --> 02:37:39.580
Not actually how placebo effect works. They're like the orcs from 40K.

02:37:40.540 --> 02:37:44.100
Yeah, but yeah, it's a planetary society thing.

02:37:44.100 --> 02:37:46.700
I thought and think it's super cool.

02:37:47.700 --> 02:37:51.860
There's a light sail too. There's all this other kind of stuff. I don't know. I didn't really read a part about that

02:37:51.860 --> 02:37:55.380
because I was, I don't know. I guess I did technically read about it. Anyways, whatever.

02:37:55.380 --> 02:37:59.620
What is going on? What is this? We're playing Dino Park Tycoon for the rest of the show.

02:37:59.620 --> 02:38:03.820
Why? Because it's a wonderful game. You're getting Eve ads based.

02:38:05.260 --> 02:38:08.900
I need to change the zoom just to, oh, you know what?

02:38:08.900 --> 02:38:12.900
We could just go. Buy land at the real estate office.

02:38:12.900 --> 02:38:16.780
Could just go full screen. Hold on. He said mocking the BC people.

02:38:16.780 --> 02:38:19.780
Is this a functionally? Hello?

02:38:19.780 --> 02:38:25.780
Okay. What's the bloody hot key for full screen?

02:38:25.780 --> 02:38:29.620
F11. Okay, I'm pressing. Okay, see Luke, verify for me please.

02:38:29.620 --> 02:38:33.100
I'm not an idiot. Yes, is the function screwed up?

02:38:33.100 --> 02:38:36.320
Is it turned down? No, it's not. Look.

02:38:36.320 --> 02:38:39.660
Correct. Okay. All right, cool. So hit this.

02:38:39.660 --> 02:38:44.940
So there's that. Hit the three kabobs on the top, right? Yeah, I just don't know what's in there.

02:38:44.940 --> 02:38:47.820
Are we no longer playing it? Oh, we're playing it.

02:38:48.940 --> 02:38:51.980
On the right. Right, right button. Are the new shirts tall friendly?

02:38:51.980 --> 02:38:56.380
I'm tall. They're not tall sizing. But it fits like this.

02:38:56.380 --> 02:38:57.460
They're not tall sizing.

02:39:02.340 --> 02:39:05.460
Yeah. They're not tall sizing, but they're not really helps it.

02:39:05.460 --> 02:39:09.740
It's short sleeve. And they're reasonably tuckable, I think.

02:39:10.620 --> 02:39:16.300
Yeah. Okay. All right. What else we got for Linus?

02:39:16.300 --> 02:39:19.700
Do you have a video favorite that you have made?

02:39:19.700 --> 02:39:22.780
And Luke, which scrapyard wars was your favorite?

02:39:22.780 --> 02:39:28.060
Four. Oh yeah, that's the one with the fire.

02:39:28.060 --> 02:39:33.500
Yeah. I think it's like even reasonable that there will be one

02:39:33.500 --> 02:39:39.700
that could ever trump that for me. Like overall, like production quality

02:39:39.700 --> 02:39:44.380
and all that type of stuff. I think the most recent one, whatever number it was,

02:39:44.380 --> 02:39:49.540
is probably our best one, but four will always hold a special spot in my heart.

02:39:49.540 --> 02:39:52.620
Working with Rod on that was like probably one

02:39:52.620 --> 02:39:56.180
of the highlights of working on computers. Like, oh, he's in chat. No way.

02:39:57.100 --> 02:40:00.220
Working with Rod on that was sick. That was like easily one of the coolest computers

02:40:00.220 --> 02:40:04.660
I've ever made. The fact that the power went out in the office and we had to present it at my parents' house

02:40:04.660 --> 02:40:06.880
was just like sick.

02:40:08.380 --> 02:40:11.540
I don't know. We made a computer that lit on freaking fire, dude.

02:40:11.540 --> 02:40:15.420
Like, how do you even, I don't,

02:40:16.420 --> 02:40:20.780
and it was like actually really cool. Like the integration of burlap,

02:40:20.780 --> 02:40:23.820
the fact that we use an actual like old iron grill,

02:40:23.820 --> 02:40:29.940
the fact that we had multiple types of fire. We didn't just settle with one form of fire.

02:40:29.940 --> 02:40:33.700
That would have been lame. We had to have multiple sources of fire

02:40:33.700 --> 02:40:38.580
and multiple different types of fire. We had like the three, two, one rule of fire

02:40:38.580 --> 02:40:43.860
instead of backup. It was, yeah, it was really fun.

02:40:43.860 --> 02:40:47.060
I had like a genuinely just really good time,

02:40:47.060 --> 02:40:50.180
and I really liked the result that we ended with,

02:40:50.180 --> 02:40:53.340
and it's great, and I'm always gonna say four,

02:40:53.340 --> 02:40:56.420
is what it is. Mm.

02:40:56.420 --> 02:40:58.220
Minus, do you have a favorite video?

02:41:00.740 --> 02:41:06.100
I, like a favorite video video, like one favorite video overall.

02:41:06.100 --> 02:41:10.180
Yeah. Look at those wages.

02:41:12.180 --> 02:41:16.860
Okay, we're gonna need a little bit of food. Oh crap, what kind of food does this one eat?

02:41:16.860 --> 02:41:20.180
Buh, can anybody explain?

02:41:20.180 --> 02:41:23.860
And Vidya does that every day? It's an amazing comment.

02:41:23.860 --> 02:41:30.100
Did no one else react to this? What? I'm talking about the fire computer and GM Shippo.

02:41:30.100 --> 02:41:33.380
Oh. And since Vidya does that every day.

02:41:33.380 --> 02:41:35.940
You win, you win.

02:41:38.020 --> 02:41:40.820
Got it, shh, I'm just upset now.

02:41:42.180 --> 02:41:48.340
Oh man. Oh, okay, well, I don't know what the heck my dinosaur eats.

02:41:49.380 --> 02:41:55.260
What is happening? Hey, Wook, why not, and when? What was the last DIY tech project

02:41:55.260 --> 02:41:58.380
that made you excited or you really enjoyed doing?

02:41:58.380 --> 02:42:01.580
I recently had an arcade cabinet watching one of your old videos,

02:42:01.580 --> 02:42:02.820
and it was so much fun.

02:42:04.900 --> 02:42:09.500
Mm. Man, what's the last, what's the last,

02:42:09.500 --> 02:42:11.900
like, DIY tech project I did?

02:42:13.500 --> 02:42:21.060
Trying to think. GM Shippo said, I work on rockets

02:42:21.060 --> 02:42:25.180
and getting a ding is my proudest moment. Just for you, bud.

02:42:27.180 --> 02:42:28.180
That's brutal.

02:42:30.180 --> 02:42:33.980
No. It's quite an honor to be perfectly honest.

02:42:35.980 --> 02:42:40.580
We should make them a plaque. Can hang it over their PhD.

02:42:40.580 --> 02:42:43.620
That's a very unfortunately human thing, I think.

02:42:45.340 --> 02:42:46.580
Oh, no.

02:42:48.420 --> 02:42:51.540
This is why all the kids want to be YouTubers. I, I.

02:42:51.540 --> 02:42:56.620
It's free dopamine. I am legitimately, I'm legitimately more pleased

02:42:56.620 --> 02:43:00.740
than I probably should be with the pool water cooling setup.

02:43:00.740 --> 02:43:05.740
Yeah, why? That's sick. Why more than you should be? Well, I don't know, because it's stupid, isn't it, Leigh?

02:43:05.740 --> 02:43:09.900
Who cares? I don't know, it's just, yeah, I like it. I mean, it's fair to care that it eats.

02:43:09.900 --> 02:43:14.380
It could be better. It could be better. That's a good answer. It could literally everything.

02:43:14.380 --> 02:43:17.540
Yeah, but I, yeah, you know what? I'm gonna, I'm gonna go with that.

02:43:17.540 --> 02:43:20.940
Not because it's the last one that made me really excited.

02:43:20.940 --> 02:43:26.340
Man, there was something really recent that I was like, jazzed to do.

02:43:26.340 --> 02:43:29.660
I mean, I had a ton of fun working on that all-in-one gaming TV.

02:43:29.660 --> 02:43:34.020
That was really cool. Sorry. Chad's being very funny today.

02:43:36.780 --> 02:43:39.300
Yeah, I'm gonna go with whole pool water cooling.

02:43:40.860 --> 02:43:43.660
That's a good one. Howdy, LLD from Oklahoma.

02:43:44.980 --> 02:43:50.340
What's up? You need a comment there. Question for Luke. What is the challenge with operating a video site

02:43:50.340 --> 02:43:52.980
that people don't realize is actually kind of hard?

02:43:54.540 --> 02:43:57.020
Also, Linus, return of the tall sizes, when?

02:43:58.260 --> 02:44:02.360
We are definitely, we're gonna do tall sizes. It's gonna happen.

02:44:05.100 --> 02:44:09.540
I don't know exactly when, but they're working on it.

02:44:10.460 --> 02:44:14.100
I think, I think it's just that you have to do- Oh, I died already.

02:44:14.100 --> 02:44:17.100
This is a very unforgivingly difficult game in case you- You died?

02:44:17.100 --> 02:44:18.780
You die in this game? Oh, yeah.

02:44:20.700 --> 02:44:23.380
100%. Huh, okay.

02:44:24.620 --> 02:44:29.260
But I'm gonna try again. I think it's probably just that you have to do everything.

02:44:29.260 --> 02:44:32.620
Like if you're a site that has text posts,

02:44:32.620 --> 02:44:38.500
it's like, okay, well, we have creators that can post text posts and all the users can comment.

02:44:38.540 --> 02:44:42.940
So there's that. If you're a site that does audio, okay, well, we support audio.

02:44:42.940 --> 02:44:47.100
If you're a site that does downloading, okay, well, we support downloading. If you're a site that does video, okay, well,

02:44:47.100 --> 02:44:50.620
we support video. If you're a site that does live streaming, okay, well, we support live streaming.

02:44:50.620 --> 02:44:55.620
It's just like, oh, there's just so many things.

02:44:56.180 --> 02:45:01.180
And then, I couldn't even imagine,

02:45:01.460 --> 02:45:04.300
even conceptualizing how to implement live chat.

02:45:06.060 --> 02:45:10.140
Oh, I mean, there's, I think you could, so I don't know worked on it for a while.

02:45:10.140 --> 02:45:12.380
Yeah, but like you have to do the whole thing.

02:45:13.540 --> 02:45:17.060
Yeah, but I mean with- You have to do the whole everything. With all web development, there's,

02:45:17.060 --> 02:45:20.540
now I'm gonna pull it back slightly because of your comments. This is what I wanna do.

02:45:20.540 --> 02:45:26.060
There's some amount of stuff that you can lean on, right? Like even live chat, like we didn't do this,

02:45:26.060 --> 02:45:31.260
but if you look at Twitch's origins, they leaned on IRC really heavily.

02:45:31.260 --> 02:45:35.140
You could dial into Twitch live chats

02:45:35.140 --> 02:45:39.140
through IRC clients without going on Twitch at all

02:45:39.140 --> 02:45:44.580
back in the day. That was a thing. People used IRC bots for original bot interaction

02:45:44.580 --> 02:45:47.980
on Twitch. People say you still can.

02:45:47.980 --> 02:45:51.940
Wow, I didn't know that. You still can, but it's a huge pain.

02:45:51.940 --> 02:45:53.700
Got it, okay, yeah, I don't know.

02:45:55.220 --> 02:45:59.820
So like there's some amount of like, internet development does not at all

02:45:59.820 --> 02:46:04.180
happen in a vacuum anymore. And it hasn't for a really long time.

02:46:04.180 --> 02:46:11.980
So there's like some amount of other stuff you can lean on, but there's just so many things that you have to do.

02:46:12.140 --> 02:46:17.580
It's very complicated, mostly because of how multifaceted it is.

02:46:17.580 --> 02:46:20.700
If we could just do VOD, it would be a lot easier.

02:46:20.700 --> 02:46:26.020
If we could just do live streaming, it would be a lot easier. If we could just do photos, it'd be a lot easier, et cetera.

02:46:26.020 --> 02:46:30.420
And that makes it difficult to scale because it's already difficult to scale a website

02:46:30.420 --> 02:46:33.620
that just does even text.

02:46:34.860 --> 02:46:40.380
And at a certain level of scale, that ends up being not the easiest thing in the world.

02:46:40.380 --> 02:46:43.380
And then you make it so that you're scaling all these different things all at the same time.

02:46:43.380 --> 02:46:44.460
And it's like, booh.

02:46:47.820 --> 02:46:50.220
Yeah, I don't know, that'll be my answer, I guess.

02:46:53.100 --> 02:46:56.260
Just throw Terraform at it. I really appreciate that you threw the slash S

02:46:56.260 --> 02:46:59.940
at the end of that, I appreciate it. Yeah, people think stuff like that

02:46:59.940 --> 02:47:03.340
is a lot more simple than it is. Because there's, I mean, it comes down to things like,

02:47:03.340 --> 02:47:07.940
there's forms of scaling that just like, throwing more servers at it will not solve your problem,

02:47:07.940 --> 02:47:11.220
either, like you have to, anyways.

02:47:12.340 --> 02:47:16.220
Yeah, next one. It's bad. Hello, Wansho.

02:47:16.220 --> 02:47:19.980
Linus, last week you mentioned that How to Train Your Dragon was a perfect movie.

02:47:19.980 --> 02:47:25.420
Can you expand on that? Dan, have you watched it yet? No, look if you played Final Fantasy VI.

02:47:25.420 --> 02:47:28.900
I have played it, but I'm really not much further, but I have played it.

02:47:28.900 --> 02:47:33.620
It's on my list, sorry Linus. Oh, it's so good. Are you gonna watch the live action?

02:47:33.620 --> 02:47:36.500
I will watch it, we've talked about that already. Got it.

02:47:38.060 --> 02:47:42.060
I'm very legitimately actually kind of excited for the live action.

02:47:42.940 --> 02:47:46.740
Well, I don't know, maybe I'm a little bit excited for the live action.

02:47:48.300 --> 02:47:52.540
It looks like they're pretty faithful to the perfect movie, which is the original,

02:47:52.540 --> 02:47:56.620
but nothing's a guarantee until things actually happen.

02:47:57.820 --> 02:48:05.100
So why is it a perfect movie? Because it has a perfect soundtrack.

02:48:06.340 --> 02:48:13.980
It is emotional and funny. It's, yeah, it's, ah man, okay, perfect movie, damn it.

02:48:18.820 --> 02:48:22.500
Better than Paddington 2? I haven't seen Paddington 2 unfortunately.

02:48:22.500 --> 02:48:24.980
Wait, I think that lost, it's 100% rating.

02:48:25.940 --> 02:48:30.780
It had a 100% rating? It was a perfect film according to Rotten Tomatoes.

02:48:32.180 --> 02:48:37.140
Man, I, That's only 99% perfect. Someone probably just trolled it.

02:48:37.140 --> 02:48:41.340
No, that's on the, that's on the, I don't know. Oh, the like reviewer side?

02:48:41.340 --> 02:48:44.820
Yeah. I don't know how I would define a perfect movie

02:48:44.820 --> 02:48:48.780
other than that it's so tight.

02:48:48.780 --> 02:48:53.020
How to change your jacket also has 99% from critics. So I think you're accurate.

02:48:54.020 --> 02:48:59.020
There's just, there is absolutely nothing out of place in it.

02:49:00.060 --> 02:49:04.580
I saw this wonderful breakdown of how well integrated the score

02:49:04.580 --> 02:49:09.580
and all the major themes for all the major characters is

02:49:09.620 --> 02:49:14.620
and how the character themes blend together

02:49:14.660 --> 02:49:20.140
as the characters relationships change. Like it's just, ah, it's so good.

02:49:21.140 --> 02:49:27.460
It's so enjoyable for all ages. I think that's something that is really, really tough to nail.

02:49:27.460 --> 02:49:31.660
Like a movie that is for kids,

02:49:31.660 --> 02:49:36.660
but that I don't just have to kind of like make my way through.

02:49:36.820 --> 02:49:41.700
Like, what did I, what did we go to see with them recently? We went, we went to Moana too with the kids recently

02:49:41.700 --> 02:49:48.420
and it was like fine, like it's a visual spectacle and everything, but it, like, we were just kind of,

02:49:48.940 --> 02:49:50.980
we were kind of making our way through it.

02:49:52.820 --> 02:49:55.820
How to train your dragon is incredible.

02:49:55.820 --> 02:49:58.540
I will definitely throw it on my list.

02:49:59.500 --> 02:50:03.020
I mean, it is on my list. All of the, to throw it against my eyes. Yeah.

02:50:03.020 --> 02:50:06.660
Hi, LLD. What are your thoughts on Google starting fingerprinting?

02:50:06.660 --> 02:50:10.580
For example, cookie list tracking on Sunday. Thoughts on how to avoid it considering

02:50:10.580 --> 02:50:15.060
how many services Google has. I thought fingerprinting had been going on for a long time.

02:50:15.060 --> 02:50:19.580
Forms of it. Yeah. Fingerprint is scary, scary.

02:50:21.900 --> 02:50:25.020
I forgot a fence. How to avoid it is tough.

02:50:25.020 --> 02:50:28.060
As far as my understanding goes, it's the clown.

02:50:28.060 --> 02:50:29.740
The clown and the thumbs up.

02:50:34.260 --> 02:50:37.860
Alberto Soros? Yeah, that's a thing. Okay.

02:50:40.940 --> 02:50:44.420
Maybe people will start coming to the parking auction today.

02:50:44.460 --> 02:50:46.340
What, do they sell water blocks here?

02:50:48.020 --> 02:50:52.500
Next up we have... What are we talking about? What was I talking about? Oh, how to avoid fingerprinting?

02:50:54.300 --> 02:50:58.100
Buy a laptop, not using your credit card,

02:50:58.100 --> 02:51:01.660
and then don't sign into any account on it ever.

02:51:01.660 --> 02:51:06.340
What about it being fingerprinted by being on your local network attached to other computers?

02:51:06.340 --> 02:51:11.100
Don't do that either. Monkey, go live in the forest.

02:51:11.100 --> 02:51:16.540
Or that. This is why I want to live in the forest. Yeah, the whole like, it's only anonymized data.

02:51:16.540 --> 02:51:21.060
It's like, yeah, until they attach it. Have you ever seen Google Analytics data?

02:51:21.060 --> 02:51:26.940
It's horrifying. Oh, did they fix that if you're under 18 Google data yet?

02:51:27.860 --> 02:51:31.260
I doubt it. Everybody forgot about that immediately.

02:51:33.740 --> 02:51:39.700
Welp. Hi guys, I've been watching the channel since I bought my AMD Phenon X4

02:51:39.700 --> 02:51:42.780
and wanted to learn how to overclock. That's a minute ago.

02:51:43.780 --> 02:51:47.100
I thought that he wanted to learn how to overclock his ANOM-T4,

02:51:47.100 --> 02:51:51.340
and this was a joke message, but... Oh. No, no, this is...

02:51:51.340 --> 02:51:55.540
Did you just misread it? No, I did the first time.

02:51:55.540 --> 02:51:59.260
That's what I thought, he was asking for tips. Nice for how to overclock it.

02:51:59.260 --> 02:52:02.820
Now, but no, that's when he started. Well, there's a great channel

02:52:02.820 --> 02:52:07.220
that you can check out to learn how to overclock that Phenon X4 and CIX tech tips.

02:52:07.220 --> 02:52:11.980
I think that was where we uploaded the guide for that. Man, I wish overclocking was still a thing.

02:52:12.100 --> 02:52:15.740
Apparently, 5080. I've heard. It's pretty good.

02:52:15.740 --> 02:52:22.340
I haven't actually... No experience myself, I've heard. I'd love to get one, somehow.

02:52:24.220 --> 02:52:28.580
I mean, you could borrow one once we're done working with it, but we're not, so go away.

02:52:28.580 --> 02:52:33.940
Yeah, no, I've committed to the people that any 50-series GPUs that I've had pain...

02:52:33.940 --> 02:52:37.900
Oh, I just meant for playing around with overclocking, not for keeping. Sure, sure, sure, sure, sure.

02:52:37.900 --> 02:52:41.460
Yeah, it's ours. If I take anything home, it's... Hands off.

02:52:41.460 --> 02:52:48.100
I have to buy it, which means I'm gonna be waiting a minute because I'm not on any wait lists, so...

02:52:48.100 --> 02:52:50.740
I've heard 5080s are becoming more acquirable.

02:52:52.540 --> 02:52:55.540
They're less exciting, so that would explain it.

02:52:55.540 --> 02:52:58.140
I don't think AI developers care about them at all.

02:52:59.580 --> 02:53:05.180
Okay, last one I got for you today. Sure. Gonna get the rest next week, when lanyards when.

02:53:05.180 --> 02:53:09.220
I don't know if it hasn't been mentioned since I can't watch live. Is there a story of the cat in the maze?

02:53:09.220 --> 02:53:12.780
Cats are cute. They're awesome.

02:53:12.780 --> 02:53:15.900
And... That's a pretty good story. Yeah.

02:53:15.900 --> 02:53:19.660
I think there's half a cat. Yeah, well, oh no. That's less cute.

02:53:21.540 --> 02:53:24.860
There's a full cat. Yeah, full cats are better than half cats.

02:53:24.860 --> 02:53:27.140
Yeah, well, no, he's just hiding.

02:53:28.940 --> 02:53:36.620
Yeah. It's probably full if you look behind the stitch. As for when lanyards, I mean, I think we don't really have those.

02:53:36.660 --> 02:53:40.020
When lanyards, I stole that from GameGram in chat.

02:53:42.100 --> 02:53:45.380
Oh, well, we had them at some point, I thought.

02:53:45.380 --> 02:53:49.540
We did. Is this... Oh, it's currently notify me when available.

02:53:49.540 --> 02:53:54.340
Oh, it's just this color scheme. Yeah, it's my favorite color scheme. I thought that one is the one that I still use.

02:53:57.140 --> 02:54:01.620
I don't know. I will tell you though, that we've had a lot of designs

02:54:01.620 --> 02:54:06.900
that have faded away off the site over the years, and I pitched something to the merch team.

02:54:06.900 --> 02:54:12.460
There's no guarantee that anything will actually happen with it, but I pitched to them that it would be pretty cool

02:54:12.460 --> 02:54:17.340
for us to bring up a big list of all our old designs

02:54:17.340 --> 02:54:24.180
and then throw it to the community. Thunderdome. And let them vote for one or a small handful

02:54:24.180 --> 02:54:27.660
for us to bring back. I can think of a few that if they came back,

02:54:27.660 --> 02:54:31.660
I'd try to buy a couple of them so I can have them for a while. Luke Nukem.

02:54:31.660 --> 02:54:34.940
No. I still wear mine regularly. That's what I said.

02:54:34.940 --> 02:54:37.340
I didn't get one. I'm sad.

02:54:38.780 --> 02:54:41.260
Did I tell you about the one time I wore it out?

02:54:42.900 --> 02:54:50.700
Really? I think you did. I might have. I had to go pick up Emma's car from a tire shop.

02:54:50.740 --> 02:54:55.620
She's just getting tire swapped. And I was just like lounging at home,

02:54:55.620 --> 02:55:00.420
so I just had whatever I was wearing on. I forgot I was wearing the Luke Nukem shirt.

02:55:00.420 --> 02:55:03.860
Would you secretly wear whenever you don't think anyone's looking? Yes, go on.

02:55:03.860 --> 02:55:08.860
No, no, no. And I go to walk to pick it up and the guy just looks at me, looks down at my shirt.

02:55:08.860 --> 02:55:13.380
And I don't remember exactly what he says, but it's something along the lines of Luke Nukem, eh?

02:55:13.380 --> 02:55:18.860
He doesn't know my name. I didn't give them my name ever, but he just vibe-checked me and just knew.

02:55:20.620 --> 02:55:25.340
And I was just like, oh. Why are you wearing a shirt with your face on it?

02:55:25.340 --> 02:55:29.540
Because it does look like you. Sarah told me when she was working on it, she's like, I don't think I can make it look like him.

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I'm like, dude, it looks like him. You did a great job. Ship it.

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So literally the one time I wore it outdoors, I got called on it immediately.

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I was outside of my car, both at home and there for like less than five minutes.

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How have I forgotten this story? Snoggle says you've told this story a billion times.

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Well, whatever. I'm pretty sure I did. I love it every single time, then.

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Oh, man. And I love every time hearing you say,

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we'll see you again next week. Same bad time, same bad channel. Bye!

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Keep me on my toes for that one.

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I'm gonna win. Who knew?

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I threw away a lot of money letting that dinosaur escape.

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No, you have to go home. You all right?