WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:03.880 Cloud gaming, like it or not, is the future. 00:00:09.640 --> 00:00:14.400 The reason I didn't go anyway is because I don't think it's going to be the only thing in the future. 00:00:14.800 --> 00:00:20.160 So I can't go that. But I also can't deny that it is rising rapidly in popularity. 00:00:20.560 --> 00:00:28.120 I think we're going to have a hybrid market where the sounds mean to say, but the people who can't afford it will be doing cloud gaming. 00:00:28.440 --> 00:00:32.440 And then the elitists who have all the money will be doing physical hardware gaming. 00:00:33.440 --> 00:00:36.800 It sounds terrible to say it that way, and I hate wording it, but we've seen the trend already. 00:00:36.800 --> 00:00:40.520 NVIDIA doesn't care about the poor people anymore. It's why they make $2,000 GPUs. 00:00:40.640 --> 00:00:50.360 Yeah, I mean, I've got the same sort of sentiments, but I'm in the disagree because I think there's always going to be a future for physical in your hands gaming. 00:00:51.080 --> 00:00:56.080 Whether that be a tower or a console or just a handheld. 00:00:56.320 --> 00:01:01.240 Yeah, my thought is that I don't think that we're going to see cloud gaming in its current incarnation. 00:01:01.440 --> 00:01:08.200 Sure. I think what we might be trending towards is the cloud gaming of like, play any game you want while you're online. 00:01:08.200 --> 00:01:12.240 But you can also cash and download a couple of games to play locally, right? 00:01:12.280 --> 00:01:19.920 That makes the device a lot more expensive again, though. But this is what I'm saying is I don't think that there's I think that the they're going to keep trying to chip away at ownership. 00:01:19.920 --> 00:01:23.760 100 percent. Yes, subscriptions more regular, it's better, more beneficial. 00:01:23.800 --> 00:01:29.520 But there's always going to be the need to be offline at some point. 00:01:29.520 --> 00:01:33.680 Like bottled water exists, even though I can get water from the tap any day. 00:01:33.800 --> 00:01:41.560 If the K shaped economy continues, will there even be a physical option like that for the lowest end of the economy? 00:01:41.920 --> 00:01:46.680 Will they even bother making products for those people when it comes to games? 00:01:46.680 --> 00:01:49.960 Or will they just focus all their effort on the high end? 00:01:49.960 --> 00:01:53.480 Volume is still huge. That's why I'm still in the middle. 00:01:53.480 --> 00:01:59.720 Like, I definitely don't think it's only going to be cloud gaming, but I definitely see the trend where it is kind of doing that. 00:01:59.720 --> 00:02:05.160 And I'm not happy about it. And so I think it might eventually, but I don't I'm not certain. 00:02:05.240 --> 00:02:09.800 I don't think you can be certain about it. There's been a return to lower spec gaming, though, too. 00:02:10.000 --> 00:02:16.080 Over the last five years, especially some of the best games like Bellantra, one game of the year, didn't it? 00:02:16.080 --> 00:02:19.760 Play the Spire has like 500,000 concurrent users and it's an early access. 00:02:19.760 --> 00:02:23.200 You can play that on something from literally 15 years ago. 00:02:23.560 --> 00:02:27.360 To be clear, I hope that we don't go the route of full subscription. 00:02:27.600 --> 00:02:34.040 I want people like Intel to rise up on the lower end GPU and give people an option at entry level computers again. 00:02:34.240 --> 00:02:38.440 Yeah, we need more stuff like ours. This is why people are on their phones. Phones are commodity almost. 00:02:38.480 --> 00:02:43.600 They're you can get cheap games on them and you already have them. You can get online like that's going to be people's people's form. 00:02:43.600 --> 00:02:49.360 But you're always going to need a need. There's a reason why people still buy decks of cards, mechanical keyboards, kind of overrated. 00:02:53.480 --> 00:02:57.440 And I need to think without looking behind me at the people see where they're moving. So I'm not influenced. 00:02:57.560 --> 00:03:01.800 I know. Yeah, kind of overrated. 00:03:03.920 --> 00:03:10.680 I think that there are a lot of communities that overhype how great mechanical keyboards are. 00:03:11.280 --> 00:03:19.440 However, almost every single time someone I know tries a mechanical keyboard for the first time, especially if it's a nice one. 00:03:19.960 --> 00:03:30.120 They agree. It's awesome. The only reason I'm in the middle still is because it's is it like a more performant experience? 00:03:30.680 --> 00:03:35.800 Not really. And I still like chiclet style keyboards for like, you know, whatever, they're totally fine. 00:03:36.440 --> 00:03:39.760 So I'm in the middle. I don't know. I think they're great, but also I don't think they're overhyped. 00:03:40.240 --> 00:03:50.360 The reason I went disagree was I don't think that they're overhyped, but I feel that the communities can push the expectations on spending too much on a mechanical keyboard too far. 00:03:50.840 --> 00:03:54.200 Those keyboards that we recently got for the sets are great. 00:03:55.080 --> 00:04:05.280 Those were ninety nine dollar keyboards, which when you're talking about a decent keyboard, it's not actually that much, but also like even then ninety nine dollars is a lot of money. 00:04:05.360 --> 00:04:17.600 It is a lot of money for things that lots of people assume. I will 100% agree that if you're just trying to put keys into a terminal or whatever and you need it on like a server rack, you get your Logitech twenty dollar keyboard. 00:04:17.880 --> 00:04:25.520 That's fine. But if you are living with it every day and using it every day, I take the mechanical keyboard. 00:04:25.640 --> 00:04:29.960 Made me go this way was I tried to think of the difference of like a higher quality keyboard or mouse. 00:04:29.960 --> 00:04:39.560 And ultimately, I think I'm like, if I had to, I could live with a garbage keyboard over a garbage mouse that has like poor tracking or something. 00:04:39.560 --> 00:04:43.240 Right. And I think it's still worthwhile investment. 00:04:43.240 --> 00:04:48.280 Like you mentioned, if you're going to be using it every single day, maybe spend the hundred bucks on a really nice keyboard for yourself. 00:04:49.000 --> 00:04:51.680 But I don't know. I overrated for sure. 00:04:52.000 --> 00:04:56.520 For me, it's just like, look at how many laptop keyboards are out there that aren't mechanical that are really good. 00:04:56.520 --> 00:05:03.600 Yeah, I think it's a really a missing, like it's a missed opportunity in the desktop market. 00:05:03.600 --> 00:05:12.440 Because if you want, there's like no good non-mechanical keyboards, like it's very hard to find like a good membrane style or chicken style keyboard. 00:05:12.880 --> 00:05:18.480 Like the app, well, and that's pretty good because it's basically the one on their laptop. 00:05:18.480 --> 00:05:27.800 But like, that's not really a thing in the window side. So mechanical keyboards make a ton of sense because that's where like doesn't take a lot of money anymore to get a nice mechanical keyboard. 00:05:29.680 --> 00:05:36.240 But there's just like a lack of good membrane options. So I think that they're kind of overrated because like, I think a lot of people are used to just typing on a laptop. 00:05:36.240 --> 00:05:41.560 But I think that like, I mean, I've built my own and I have two nice mechanical keyboards. 00:05:42.240 --> 00:05:46.480 I have one at my work desk, one at home, and they are nicer. 00:05:46.480 --> 00:05:51.600 They're nicer for sure. You know, I think is overrated. 8000 Hertz polling rights. 00:05:51.600 --> 00:05:57.400 Oh, so sure. So true. The GTX 1080 is still a good gaming GPU. 00:06:00.920 --> 00:06:10.160 Once a goat, always a goat. I think if you're talking modern gaming, yeah, it's showing its age, but there's more older games than modern games. 00:06:10.480 --> 00:06:14.320 Sure. I think you got to define good is the problem. 00:06:14.560 --> 00:06:17.960 Even like a few years ago, like three years ago, I would have agreed. 00:06:18.360 --> 00:06:23.360 But I think that like at this point, I mean, does a 5050 beat a 1080? 00:06:23.520 --> 00:06:26.680 I don't even know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know either. 00:06:26.720 --> 00:06:31.480 But I bet you if it doesn't beat it, it comes really close. And then also going to be using so much more power. 00:06:31.600 --> 00:06:38.280 And and the 5050 is going to include like modern DLSS and the ability to ray trace, whether it can do it or not, it can at least try. 00:06:38.320 --> 00:06:41.960 He will probably still be twice the price, though. Then yeah, sure. 00:06:42.000 --> 00:06:46.960 And the VRAM, if you really need those extra 1080 only is like eight gigs. 00:06:47.560 --> 00:06:51.960 But I thought it was what was it? Or was it 10 or 10? T.I. T.I. had a lot. 00:06:52.480 --> 00:06:56.360 Yeah. See, it's a regular 1080. It's not a. 00:06:59.360 --> 00:07:02.520 I agree. 1080 T.I. Yes, I would change my tune. 00:07:02.520 --> 00:07:08.520 I'd at least be neutral if not agree. But the 1080 itself is just it's really getting old now and it's starting to show. 00:07:08.760 --> 00:07:13.760 It was starting to show its age a couple of years ago at this point. I mean, they dropped the driver support for a while ago now. 00:07:13.760 --> 00:07:17.480 Yeah, it's also like all nine years old now. It's very old. 00:07:17.480 --> 00:07:21.920 It's just getting old, but a goat is always a goat. Gretzky is not a bad hockey player. 00:07:22.080 --> 00:07:26.800 OK, just maybe I guess now. So then he's put Michael Jordan on the court today. 00:07:26.800 --> 00:07:30.480 See how good he is, I guess. Probably not very. 00:07:33.400 --> 00:07:37.840 Yeah, just because you're good at something at some point in time doesn't mean you always stay good at something. 00:07:38.320 --> 00:07:44.880 For forever, it's now I'll stay on my ground here. I think that there's still the option to play other games. 00:07:45.160 --> 00:07:48.960 I know playing the modern games is cool and you should and it's fun. 00:07:48.960 --> 00:07:52.440 But I think if what if it's what you have, that's fine, right? 00:07:52.440 --> 00:07:56.560 There's nothing wrong with that. I'm so sorry that what happened to you that made it so that you could afford a 1080. 00:07:57.160 --> 00:08:00.400 And no longer afford it now. That's a good point, actually. 00:08:00.400 --> 00:08:03.920 But maybe you bought a second and 1080 like five years ago. That's the thing. That's fine. 00:08:03.920 --> 00:08:08.880 I wouldn't go out now and buy a 1080. But if you had one or if you have one in your shelf and you're just like, 00:08:08.880 --> 00:08:14.120 I want to make a media PC, I think it's still a goaded card. Is a media PC a gaming PC? 00:08:14.280 --> 00:08:18.840 I think it's a specialized gaming GPU. You could probably play like overcooked and like couch games. 00:08:19.080 --> 00:08:22.960 Sure. But then what happens when you want to play a newer game? 00:08:23.320 --> 00:08:29.640 Well, just don't. Well, I know I hate that argument. Also, what if you have kids that just you hand them down the 1080? 00:08:29.640 --> 00:08:34.680 That was once amazing. And they're like, but dad, my computer can't run this modern game with it. 00:08:34.680 --> 00:08:38.320 Suck it up, child. Yeah, then you tell them about how hard it is to walk to school or whatever. 00:08:38.320 --> 00:08:41.000 Yeah, from the media perspective as well. 00:08:41.320 --> 00:08:45.800 Like just the HDMI version that goes out on the 1080 is not enough. 00:08:45.880 --> 00:08:49.400 I didn't even think of HDMI. So even if you're going to take the streaming standpoint, 00:08:49.680 --> 00:08:52.840 you're not going to get your 4K 120. I owe is a great point, David. 00:08:52.840 --> 00:08:56.480 I hadn't even thought of that. Oh, you guys are slowly pulling me back that direction. 00:08:57.080 --> 00:09:02.680 Nope. All right. Stay on my ground. A nice PC case is a worthwhile investment. 00:09:06.040 --> 00:09:09.640 If I was like anywhere other than neutral, I'd be like, right here. 00:09:09.880 --> 00:09:14.280 I'm really, really close. I just I think if you're at the point where you're needing to save money on every 00:09:14.280 --> 00:09:19.440 build, the best investment is to just get a garbage case. 00:09:19.440 --> 00:09:23.200 Like you don't need then you don't have to save money on the future builds. Like you. 00:09:23.680 --> 00:09:28.240 Yeah, but a good PC case lasts a lot of forever. I totally agree forever. 00:09:28.240 --> 00:09:32.280 That's like it's it's it's I've been burned. 00:09:33.120 --> 00:09:37.120 By both, I've been burned by spending way too much on a PC case and I've been 00:09:37.120 --> 00:09:41.120 spurned burned by spending not enough because when you buy, when you get a 00:09:41.120 --> 00:09:47.920 crappy PC PC case, socks, you stop like, it's not ready to accept newer hardware. 00:09:47.920 --> 00:09:53.560 Like it won't might not like back in the day. I bought a case that didn't have an SSD mount. 00:09:53.560 --> 00:09:56.200 It only had three and a half inch mounting points. 00:09:56.720 --> 00:10:02.240 What if there's not enough room for cable management? Which like isn't necessary, but building and that sucks when you're trying to 00:10:02.240 --> 00:10:08.240 push the bulge. And I think with the amount of selection that we have in the modern day cases, 00:10:08.240 --> 00:10:12.240 there are good and nice cases at pretty much every budget. 00:10:12.240 --> 00:10:15.240 100% agree that you shouldn't while you can cut corners. 00:10:15.240 --> 00:10:20.880 You don't have to. And I think that you will enjoy it in the long run, but I agree. 00:10:20.880 --> 00:10:24.960 Like if I'm like trying to scrape under a budget, if there is a hard line that I 00:10:24.960 --> 00:10:28.640 need to get at her, I don't think I'm going to be able to do that. 00:10:28.920 --> 00:10:32.080 The case is the first thing that's going, but I think it is a worthwhile 00:10:32.080 --> 00:10:35.840 investment, even if it might be the first thing to cut. 00:10:36.080 --> 00:10:40.640 And I think that's why I'm so torn on moving that way is the moment you reach 00:10:40.640 --> 00:10:44.320 a certain budget of building your first computer or something with a really nice 00:10:44.320 --> 00:10:50.800 case, it absolutely is justified to go that way. If I'm just trying to get in a PC gaming to start out, you sort by price, 00:10:51.000 --> 00:10:54.760 you sort by price, lowest price to get into gaming, maybe not even. 00:10:54.760 --> 00:10:58.080 I'll build it on the motherboard box, like, you know, and keep it there. 00:10:58.200 --> 00:11:04.520 But that's what I think. And at that point, I would rather build it without a case than by a cheap case. 00:11:04.960 --> 00:11:09.600 And then I would rather buy a nicer case later. And to be clear, nice doesn't necessarily mean expensive. 00:11:09.600 --> 00:11:14.000 Sure. Yeah, you can get a really good case for like $60 these days. 00:11:14.000 --> 00:11:18.360 Yes, yes. There's some solid options around the 60 to $70. 00:11:18.480 --> 00:11:22.360 Yeah. And like, really, you're that you're that broke that you can afford. 00:11:22.360 --> 00:11:25.480 I mean, sure, some people, but like, if you're building a gaming PC for a thousand 00:11:25.480 --> 00:11:31.720 dollars, you can't spend $60 on a case. If not, build it outside the case and then buy a $60 case later. 00:11:31.840 --> 00:11:39.160 If not $100, if you want something nicer than that, because I think that's worth it, like rubber grommets are nice to have, like the cable routing. 00:11:39.320 --> 00:11:43.200 Some come with fans, so you don't have to buy new fans for whatever. 00:11:43.240 --> 00:11:48.960 People like RGB, whether you do or not. And like, that can make the big difference between looking at your 00:11:49.040 --> 00:11:54.160 hunky pile of crap that's in the, you know, $30 case that sucks versus looking 00:11:54.160 --> 00:11:58.040 at a sick, like, I don't know, like a Sama V2 or something. That's a $60 case. 00:11:58.040 --> 00:12:03.840 It looks beautiful. It's like a good bed frame, right? Yeah. Everything between you and the ground is if it's like a good bed frame, maybe 00:12:03.840 --> 00:12:09.840 it's the thing you cheap out on to so you can spend more money on a good mattress, but when you get the, when you have the money to get a good 00:12:09.840 --> 00:12:17.360 bed frame or it's, it'll be worth it in the long run. A quality monitor is more important than a top tier GPU. 00:12:24.440 --> 00:12:27.080 Can we change the question? Nope. That's the question. 00:12:29.320 --> 00:12:30.680 Oh man, this sucks. 00:12:32.360 --> 00:12:38.600 You don't need a quality monitor. I will, like, what if, what if, what if, what if I do need a top tier GPU? 00:12:38.760 --> 00:12:41.840 Are you, what if I'm doing simulation work? I don't need a quality monitor. 00:12:42.080 --> 00:12:45.200 If this was for gaming, if this is a top tier monitor is more important than a 00:12:45.200 --> 00:12:48.240 top tier GPU for gaming GPUs over here. Sure. 00:12:48.280 --> 00:12:52.480 If you said a quality monitor is more important than a quality GPU, I'm over here 00:12:52.480 --> 00:12:56.040 still. Yeah. But the fact that this is like a, it's a different factor. 00:12:56.200 --> 00:12:58.560 Yeah. I think this question sucks. I agree. 00:12:59.760 --> 00:13:04.840 I do. My problem is, um, where is the line for quality monitor? 00:13:04.840 --> 00:13:09.120 Because like even simulation work, would you want to do it on a 60 Hertz, 24 00:13:09.120 --> 00:13:13.320 inch, 1080p panel? Like you could. Yeah. But do you, it's a simulation work. 00:13:13.320 --> 00:13:18.080 It's running at like one frame a year. Man, but even like mousing, when you have to do stuff on a 60 Hertz monitor. 00:13:18.120 --> 00:13:21.520 Oh my God. You're such a pain in the Donna. That's pretty spoiled. 00:13:21.520 --> 00:13:24.560 Being a 60 Hertz like sucks. I don't know. 00:13:24.560 --> 00:13:30.080 I'm thinking of gaming too. Not like work. I'm thinking of gaming, even just general media consumption. 00:13:30.360 --> 00:13:34.880 Sure. If you're watching videos or anything like that, even if you don't go to the point 00:13:34.880 --> 00:13:39.280 of having an HDR monitor, having something that has good color reproduction, 00:13:39.720 --> 00:13:44.080 which you can get for like a couple hundred bucks now, your $200 monitor will 00:13:44.080 --> 00:13:47.400 get you a decent panel that has sometimes a hundred Hertz. 00:13:47.400 --> 00:13:51.760 My friend had a 40 70 TI and he was like, oh, I want to buy like a 50 90. 00:13:51.760 --> 00:13:55.480 I was like, don't like you could, but don't buy a new monitor first because he 00:13:55.480 --> 00:13:59.200 had some old VA panel. And I was like, get a new OLED for like a thousand dollars or less. 00:13:59.520 --> 00:14:03.000 That's less than half the price of the 50 90 you want. 00:14:03.200 --> 00:14:06.280 You're going to notice an immediate effect because you're not just going to see 00:14:06.280 --> 00:14:10.400 number go up when you look at your frame rate counter. You're going to see the game literally look better. 00:14:10.400 --> 00:14:14.680 I think the trouble I have with this question is I immediately think about a 00:14:14.680 --> 00:14:17.960 lot of people in my life who overspec their monitors for their GPU. 00:14:18.320 --> 00:14:21.840 And I think the word quality, you know, can range on what that means, 00:14:21.840 --> 00:14:25.400 whether that's color accuracy, maybe it's the type of panel, whatever it may be. 00:14:25.400 --> 00:14:29.760 But I know so many people that buy like a 4k something monitor. 00:14:30.040 --> 00:14:33.840 And then they're like, why am I 40 70 struggles on AAA games? 00:14:33.840 --> 00:14:37.000 And I'm like, why'd you buy a 4k monitor? But that's a resolution thing. 00:14:37.000 --> 00:14:42.080 You can get a really good 1080p or 14 40p monitor. This is just people being stupid and buying a higher resolution 00:14:42.080 --> 00:14:47.080 because of 4k marketing that's been happening for the last 10 years. And again, I think that's a whole other issue potentially. 00:14:47.080 --> 00:14:50.920 But I think you can get a 4k monitor for 200 bucks, but it's not going to be good. 00:14:50.920 --> 00:14:56.520 Totally. Yeah. I just think that like having a dope ass GPU on a dinky ass monitors, 00:14:56.520 --> 00:15:01.280 you're having more fun than having a dinky ass GPU. Have the placebo of it looking better. 00:15:01.280 --> 00:15:06.560 Yeah, I have a good GPU. I just think that like top top tier is doing a lot of heavy lifting. 00:15:06.560 --> 00:15:10.120 I know it stops. That's why I say the question is like 50, 90, 40, 90. 00:15:10.120 --> 00:15:15.840 Most people don't need them. But like, do they mean top tier is like if it's like the literal top price tier? 00:15:15.840 --> 00:15:20.680 I mean, it's called top tier. Or do they mean like that's a bang up GPU? Like the 4070 was a good GPU. 00:15:20.680 --> 00:15:27.720 That's a mid tier GPU. Shut the f**k up. Sorry. It's literally a mid tier price wise, but it's also just like 00:15:27.720 --> 00:15:32.240 in the higher GPU. They go from 50, the numbers go from 50 to 90. 00:15:32.240 --> 00:15:37.920 90, 70, 70 is in the middle. Top tier value. Removing the headphone jack from phones was a mistake. 00:15:42.800 --> 00:15:46.800 My leg is pulling me this way. I have to. 00:15:46.800 --> 00:15:49.800 It was not a mistake. It was a choice. 00:15:49.800 --> 00:15:55.800 Okay. They did it intentionally to sell more wireless earbuds and screw over consumers. 00:15:55.800 --> 00:16:00.800 How does the phone benefit from not having the headphone jack? They're still like the same size as they were before when they had headphone jacks. 00:16:00.800 --> 00:16:03.800 They're still definitely room to put one in there. And it's cheap. 00:16:03.800 --> 00:16:09.800 It's not an expensive component. And like you said, I had wired earbuds. 00:16:09.800 --> 00:16:12.800 I can't use anymore. So now they're just a dead product sitting on. 00:16:12.800 --> 00:16:17.800 They could generate any waste. I find the convenience of just having my Bluetooth, whatever it may be, 00:16:17.800 --> 00:16:21.800 my AirPods, whatever. It's already paired and being like pop them in when I'm in the bus. 00:16:21.800 --> 00:16:27.800 I don't need to untangle anything or plug it in. Like I like some of the convenience that comes with not having a headphone jack. 00:16:27.800 --> 00:16:30.800 You had that with the headphone jack. There was always Bluetooth connectivity. 00:16:30.800 --> 00:16:35.800 I totally agree with you on that. When I saw the headphone jack first being removed, 00:16:35.800 --> 00:16:38.800 I was very hopeful that it was going to lead to, 00:16:38.800 --> 00:16:41.800 Hey, there's a little bit more battery room that they can do. And they never ended up doing it. 00:16:41.800 --> 00:16:44.800 No. So I think for this question, we're all in alignment, 00:16:44.800 --> 00:16:48.800 but we're in disagreement on how the interpretation of the question is. 00:16:48.800 --> 00:16:51.800 High quality TVs these days are wasted. 00:16:51.800 --> 00:16:54.800 Now that so much of our content is streamed. 00:16:54.800 --> 00:16:59.800 I only agree with this statement for the people that are buying a very high-end TV 00:16:59.800 --> 00:17:02.800 and then only streaming Netflix or whatever on it. 00:17:02.800 --> 00:17:10.800 I don't do that. I have a nice TV and I use my own Plex server with proper 4k stuff, 00:17:10.800 --> 00:17:13.800 running at high bit rate and everything. With a cable. Yeah. 00:17:13.800 --> 00:17:18.800 And it looks fantastic, but I do think that there are a lot of things that I don't want to do. 00:17:18.800 --> 00:17:21.800 I don't want to do that. I'm running at high bit rate and everything. With a cable. 00:17:21.800 --> 00:17:25.800 Yeah. And it looks fantastic, but I do think that there is a large number of people 00:17:25.800 --> 00:17:31.800 who just buy the most expensive or like nicest, even just like, you know, a $2,000, $3,000, $60 inch Sony or something. 00:17:31.800 --> 00:17:35.800 And then yeah, they just go watch like Netflix or YouTube videos on it or something. 00:17:35.800 --> 00:17:38.800 Even cable. Yeah. Right. 00:17:38.800 --> 00:17:42.800 Like there's just a mass amount of people that just get high quality, fancy TV because they want to watch their NFL game. 00:17:42.800 --> 00:17:45.800 And then they watch it on cable. What's wrong with that? 00:17:45.800 --> 00:17:49.800 That's like, what's wrong with watching on cable? Cable has an incredibly high resolution feed. 00:17:49.800 --> 00:17:52.800 The quality that you can get over 4K digital cable is really good. 00:17:52.800 --> 00:17:55.800 Yeah. Okay. Fair enough. 00:17:55.800 --> 00:18:00.800 I'm thinking like satellite. Like cable. Maybe I'm outdated because maybe it's my parents because my parents like refuse. 00:18:00.800 --> 00:18:03.800 Like I know a lot of people that still only pay for the 1080p cable. 00:18:03.800 --> 00:18:06.800 I thought that you've got the 4K channel. You get the 4K no matter what. 00:18:06.800 --> 00:18:11.800 It's been upgraded by the network. Okay. Then I'm going to talk to my parents after this because like you can, 00:18:11.800 --> 00:18:16.800 I would say that like sports is the best reason to get a high quality TV for the average person. 00:18:16.800 --> 00:18:21.800 Oh, I agree with that. And like the 4K networks, especially now that pretty much every sports network is going 00:18:21.800 --> 00:18:25.800 to have a digital cable channel. Sometimes you only, people only pay for like baseline TSN, 00:18:25.800 --> 00:18:30.800 but almost everyone's getting 4K included. And if you're watching it for sports, that actually makes a huge difference. 00:18:30.800 --> 00:18:37.800 Streaming, I would also say that having a high quality TV means that you're more likely 00:18:37.800 --> 00:18:40.800 to have better processing on that TV that's going to better handle the artifacts that 00:18:40.800 --> 00:18:43.800 come from streaming and will in general make your stuff look better. 00:18:43.800 --> 00:18:46.800 And when you're streaming at a high bandwidth, stuff looks really good these days. 00:18:46.800 --> 00:18:50.800 Windows has crossed a line and become real adware. 00:18:58.800 --> 00:19:01.800 I'm surprised I'm the only one in strongly agree. 00:19:01.800 --> 00:19:05.800 This is where it gets weird because like do you count all the stuff that comes with Windows 00:19:05.800 --> 00:19:08.800 or are you just talking about Windows as its own thing? 00:19:08.800 --> 00:19:14.800 That's part of Windows. Like unless you jump through a bunch of hoops to do a low space install of Windows 00:19:14.800 --> 00:19:18.800 with all that stuff ripped out, like, no, that's part of Windows. 00:19:18.800 --> 00:19:22.800 Can we like time out and get like a definition of adware? 00:19:22.800 --> 00:19:26.800 Sure. Something that will show me an ad at some point. 00:19:26.800 --> 00:19:29.800 It doesn't have to be super... Bro, that's every... Well, yeah. 00:19:29.800 --> 00:19:33.800 And I hate that almost everything is basically becoming adware in my opinion. 00:19:33.800 --> 00:19:37.800 You can get the IoT version of Windows which does have that stripped out. 00:19:37.800 --> 00:19:40.800 That's not what most people's experience is though. 00:19:40.800 --> 00:19:45.800 It was very recently where I was reinstalling or I wasn't even doing a full reinstall. 00:19:45.800 --> 00:19:51.800 I was just doing like a quick restore and it made me go through all this stupid telemetry stuff 00:19:51.800 --> 00:19:55.800 where it's like, oh, do you want this? And to be clear, I see. 00:19:55.800 --> 00:20:00.800 You convinced me. And like I am a big office user. 00:20:00.800 --> 00:20:04.800 I pay for Office 365. I don't like that it's a subscription, but yeah, I pay for it. 00:20:04.800 --> 00:20:08.800 I love Word and I love Outlook. I hate Gmail. Outlook is the superior product. 00:20:08.800 --> 00:20:12.800 100%. It's annoying seeing ads for anything Microsoft related come up or... 00:20:12.800 --> 00:20:15.800 Ads on your screen. Ads on your lock screen. Yeah. 00:20:15.800 --> 00:20:18.800 Ads on your Windows search. Yeah. Ads on the side pane. 00:20:18.800 --> 00:20:21.800 Yeah. Ads for like their software. Ads in edge. 00:20:21.800 --> 00:20:25.800 Yeah. And it's only going to get worse. I have activated Windows. 00:20:25.800 --> 00:20:30.800 I'm not saying I paid a full price for a key, but I have activated Windows. 00:20:30.800 --> 00:20:33.800 At that point, I shouldn't get ads for things. I'm paying for Office. 00:20:33.800 --> 00:20:36.800 And you think it's bad now? Wait until they start spying on you and they're always... 00:20:36.800 --> 00:20:39.800 Wait until they start? Wow. Okay. 00:20:39.800 --> 00:20:42.800 Yeah. But you know what I mean? What was the update called? 00:20:42.800 --> 00:20:45.800 Recall. Yeah. Once recall. 00:20:45.800 --> 00:20:51.800 Well, yeah. But once it's forced onto everyone and not just an option, look at how much you're going to get targeted ads for things just because you looked at this website for 20 seconds. 00:20:51.800 --> 00:20:55.800 I mean, that already happens, but as soon as Windows can start doing it to me on top of 00:20:55.800 --> 00:20:58.800 like whatever else I'm already looking at. Like, oh my God. 00:20:58.800 --> 00:21:01.800 And it's... I don't know. It's already there and it's only going to get worse. 00:21:01.800 --> 00:21:04.800 I don't know. I don't have any questions that are going to give us like happy answers. Yeah. 00:21:04.800 --> 00:21:07.800 These are all depressed. Yeah. We're going to be like, yay. 00:21:07.800 --> 00:21:16.520 16 by 9 is better for gaming than Ultra Wide. 00:21:16.520 --> 00:21:20.680 It's only better for specific games, I think, like racing games. 00:21:20.680 --> 00:21:26.640 I think Ultra Wide looks incredible, but for most games, man, 16 by 9 is just... 00:21:26.640 --> 00:21:31.960 I don't need the Ultra Wide space. I don't want to be looking all the way when I'm looking for my tiny mini-map or something. 00:21:31.960 --> 00:21:36.120 But you don't do that. You get a screen that's the right size with Retina and then you stay back so you can see 00:21:36.120 --> 00:21:41.520 everything at once. So the issue I'd say is the reason why I wouldn't say it's better for gaming in general is just 00:21:41.520 --> 00:21:45.240 that there's still a bit of a lack of support and poor implementation. 00:21:45.240 --> 00:21:51.240 For example, a lot of times you want... If you have that extra field of view, a good implementation will bring that UI in to be 00:21:51.240 --> 00:21:54.280 closer to the middle so that you can still see all your information while getting the 00:21:54.280 --> 00:21:58.040 benefit and the immersion of having the periphery filled in. 00:21:58.040 --> 00:22:01.240 But some stuff just doesn't translate well to Ultra Wide. Still. 00:22:01.240 --> 00:22:04.240 You're an Ultra Wide gamer though, right? Yeah. No, I mean, I got... 00:22:04.240 --> 00:22:13.040 I remember the first panel. It was 2560 by 1080 on a 34-inch, which was not good in terms of PPI at all. 00:22:13.040 --> 00:22:18.040 But I still love that more than the 24-inch 1080p monitor that I had before. 00:22:18.040 --> 00:22:22.440 Even in games that don't have great support, like the Last of Us will do Ultra Wide, but 00:22:22.440 --> 00:22:28.600 it will then... The animations will get weird. You'll see Joel's ARM get all messed up because they're not meant to be in frame at that point 00:22:28.600 --> 00:22:34.800 and stuff. I just ignore that stuff. When you're walking through somewhere and you have that extra field of view on the sides 00:22:34.800 --> 00:22:40.640 and all of a sudden a landscape looks amazing, and first person or third person, I just almost 00:22:40.640 --> 00:22:45.280 always prefer Ultra Wide. 00:22:45.280 --> 00:22:50.360 The only reason I went back to a 16-by-9 monitor is because I was doing more work at home and 00:22:50.360 --> 00:22:54.600 I wanted the vertical 32-inch 16-by-9 screen space. 00:22:54.600 --> 00:22:59.040 I also have an Ultra Wide monitor, and I had a super Ultra Wide monitor before that. 00:22:59.040 --> 00:23:02.720 So I like Ultra Wide. I just don't know if I would say it's better for gaming.