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I forgot to get my laptop out so that I can see the analytics I always have to watch them

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I put the anal in analytics what are you even what are you even doing this thing's crazy

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which one oh yeah yeah yeah yeah okay we're just gonna have to like go live we're pretty

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late so yeah I'm thinking we'll just do it okay all right let's do this thing holy crap

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we're zooming the selected now

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me me me face

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what is up ladies and gentlemen welcome to Wancho theater I'll be your host

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Linus Sebastian and Luke will be there and I will probably talk over him a lot but not

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right now because he isn't talking we've got a great show line up for you guys today one of

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the big headline topics this week is of course that Amazon will pay 2.5 billion dollars in a

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settlement for their prime at subscription subscription traps freaking Gotham probably

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not enough but hey at least it's some semblance of justice in other news this is cool Google

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reveals that its Android PC is coming in 2026 that's right the often rumored merging of Android

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and Chrome OS into one dark unholy ad-driven platform well doesn't sound like that's quite

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what's happening so I was so mesmerized by your speech I don't have anything repaired at all nice

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that was fascinating spam GPT is a thing and it's gonna suck and I think it might already be

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actually it looks really good what which is bad oh yeah yeah big time the other one is oh this

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made me question things we'll read more about it ascent rivals the game I showed out last week

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has like really strong crypto connections maybe oh really that that's a headline top no it doesn't

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matter the point is the show is brought to you today by Corsair factor and a rove lab along with

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our rap partner dbrand our laptop partner delin our chair partner secret lab why don't we jump

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right into our headline topic this is a really great uncharacteristically good question from

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youtube chat and the scrolling broke nope chow we combo says Amazon owes everyone two and a half

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billion or Amazon owes you two and a half billion us the collective us that's the title Amazon owes

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us two and a half billion and us actually in this case doesn't even include us because this

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appears to be a us thing to settle an FTC lawsuit that accused Amazon of deceptive

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prime enrollment and cancellation strategies the company will end the practice this is a nice

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little w we call it will end the practice and pay a one billion dollar civil penalty and send

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one and a half billion dollars in refunds to 35 million customers it is the largest FTC penalty

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ever in a case involving an FTC rule violation and the refunds are the second highest restitution

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award ever obtained by FTC action so bravo FTC I mean Luke and I and everyone knows how Amazon

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prime and barley grows like it has been such an obvious blatantly anti-consumer approach

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with Amazon is taken with their prime subscriptions pretty much since ever and the kinds of mazes

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that they created wasn't it your grandfather they couldn't figure out how to cancel his prime and he

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had like multiple subscriptions or something like that yeah like the whole thing was just nasty and

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it's nice to see for freaking once for freaking once these agencies actually hold companies

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account with nice big fines that might actually incentivize them to do things properly going

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forward now I obviously would have preferred if that one click to cancel thing had gone through

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because yeah big time like we're in Canada right so we don't necessarily benefit from

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things that the FTC does in the US except that a lot of the time we do because whatever flies

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in a company's biggest market tends to kind of trickle over into various other markets it's

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one of the reasons that I it's often not worth building all the differentiation I'm holding

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this iPhone right now that has a usb-c port on the bottom because you can bet your bottom dollar

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that if the EU wasn't a large enough market for apple they would have either just sort of flip

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them off and not bothered to ship iPhones there or they would have actually no I guess this has

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nothing to do with them being a large enough market but the point is they could have also

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segmented them out and just had lightning every well in usb-c there but clearly the EU was big

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enough for them to not just walk away from it and not yeah that's it not just walk away from it and

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refuse to make a I suspect they were worried about cappy cappy cot I think they're worried about

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copycat action and wanted to get out ahead of it copycat yeah if like the US did the same thing

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oh sure yeah and then and then because if they do if they if they don't have that happen then I think

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they're at lower risk of other things being thrown at them yeah anyways the FTC specifically

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requires amazon to use a clear and conspicuous button for customers to decline prime and stop

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using buttons as cancellation deterrence with texts such as no I don't want free shipping

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they need to go after a lot of other places then too uh yep because there's like if you book a

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flight it's always like no I want to be like unsafe or whatever like I don't want my trip to be

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whatever blah blah blah blah it's oh dude just insurance like oh I had I had I was trying to

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close Lenovo vantage today and what it was like do you want it to show up in your system tray

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and what it was yes or later which seemed so crazy to me I was like what is later me

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I clicked later to figure it out and later was just no dude any message on any one of my devices

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that doesn't have a do not show this again makes me want to just freaking do I do I get this

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notification from my watch like every other day that's like high power usage when you use always

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on screen and do all this stuff that makes your watch work as a watch and all I can do is dismiss

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it I can't say I don't care never ever oh here it is high power usage my only option check this out

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my only option is got it that's it I I have clicked got it 100 bazillion times since I started using

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the one plus two r now okay I don't want to I don't want to go off the rails here I don't want to go

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off the rails and and see if they're and and say something that's not right so I'll I'll happily I

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don't know apps app notifications show all no okay so if there's something in here that gives me the

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option to to not have it warn me about that then uh get notified when battery use issues are found

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okay I did find that in settings is that is that that either way when you give me a notification

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I don't want to have to go digging three levels into a menu to say I don't care about this notification

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never send it to me again uh I'd love to talk about Microsoft Teams sure every single

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cotton time I sign into teams on my account which is a lot because I have my home computer

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I have my laptop I have my work computer I have my phone actually you know what it's pretty good

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about not signing you know I actually know it does sign you out on the phone for a bit so I

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signed it so I signed into teams a lot it's kind of a hobby for me signing into Microsoft Teams

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every time I sign in it asks oh do you want to let the organization manage your device

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and it also asks uh do you want to sign in system wide or just this app it asks you that every time

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every single time that's actually weird I do not have that experience then and this is fun

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then it asks hey do you want to stay signed in so you don't have to do this all the time

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and I click yes I know it isn't gonna work but I click it anyway I click yes every time I click

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yes every time because I do not want to be prompted to sign in constantly someday I dream

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I dream of a day when that button will work it'll be grand it's not this day but it is not this day

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the courage of Microsoft to keep giving you the same message will fail but it is not this day

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I do wonder like I read a headline um Microsoft splitting off teams from office yeah that's

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nothing in the EU now right but I thought this was gonna end up happening everywhere man we're

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talking about like clicking too many things I google that and and google's like do you want to try AI

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mode it's like no no get out of my way

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yes Microsoft is in the process of unbundling Microsoft teams from its office 365 and Microsoft

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365 enterprise suites globally wow nice apparently it'll become of

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oh for new customers okay okay yeah yeah but yeah I think this is gonna happen to everyone

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eventually I'm really wondering what that's gonna do to teams because teams is in my opinion

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just objectively not a very good communications platform and for like a bunch of reasons tons

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we've gone over them many times his take not mine um I don't disagree but the word objectively is

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kind of scary like you could say something as simple as I can explain objectively this frequency

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response curve is even farther outside of what would be an ideal frequency response curve

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and people would get like really mad about it like you could say something as simple as that

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why I say that though yeah because in communications there's you know how there's like the whole

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body language and stuff like that it is difficult to tell if things are working in teams they they

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because it's like this seem to have it's got all the body language no it's there's there's things

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like the you know okay the box around your picture has like a border that lights up when

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your mic is activated for the other person so the other person looking at you talking your little

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box will have the thing okay cool sounds good almost every other platform just does the same

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thing for you yeah teams does not unacceptable they finally listened to it okay but I have a real

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problem they listened to the feedback and they decided to make it so that the mute icon microphone

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way up in the corner will slightly fill up whenever you're talking no which is no no I have a

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just terrible I have a real complaint about teams teams is trying to destroy my monitor

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so I have an OLED at home okay and one of the things that I do to keep my OLED you know not

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burned in is I auto hide my taskbar if I have an unread message in teams my taskbar will not hide

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drives me absolutely bat crap crazy because it could be a message that I have already addressed

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on my phone but my taskbar will just be open they're trying to burn the taskbar into my monitor

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yeah so I can't use auto hide taskbar teams teams feels extremely half baked to me um

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yeah I don't know I could genuinely talk about it for like hours flat out wrong nothing provides

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better integrated platform that matters more in enterprise bigger companies complies smaller

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driving to ban them I'll ban them no I know nothing to do at all with what I was talking

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about so it doesn't really matter but the thing that I was discussing was teams itself and teams

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being good not its ability to integrate with other things its ability to integrate with other

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things is pretty good I don't think it's actually necessarily the best but yeah that just that

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just actually has nothing to do and to be clear we obviously choose to use it yeah because it's

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cheap as dirt which is the reason why almost everyone uses it and a lot of companies need

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something else that's in office 365 which is again why they end up using it um it's it's like

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used out of convenience it's used out of the reasons that that handyman just pointed out

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which is that it's like integrated with so many other things it's almost like that's why Microsoft

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managed to get to where they are today at all because it's there it's not used because it's

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good and I'm wondering if that will be really changing at all with this decoupling I seriously

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doubt it because even if it's decoupled it's still there and it will still just work with a lot of

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the other things that most companies happen to need so it's remarkable how often the first like

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six seconds of a team's call are cut off yep what's that works yep I'm trying to think of

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something else that doesn't work like FaceTime can you remember the last time you made a FaceTime call

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and just like the first five seconds of it was both sides being like can you hear me can you hear

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me can you hear me can you hear me it happens constantly on literally no other modern communication

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platform other than teams and it is a constant problem on teams that's great chat be like it has

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a built-in millennial pause yeah it really does teams seems to be really obsessive about

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screwing around with your audio devices in really weird ways as well which is odd and

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doesn't make any sense to me all right teams is boring let's move on yeah why don't we talk

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instead about how Microsoft will be using AI to make AI better okay that sounds really boring

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and sucky but hold on it's actually incredibly interesting with microfluidic cooling channels

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Microsoft is using AI to map hotspots do you want to click the Microsoft announcement I think they

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had some pictures in there yes is using AI to map hotspots in its AI accelerators individually

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so that is on each unique chip then laser etching hair-sized channels to pump coolant through them

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the channels bring coolant into direct contact with the silicon Microsoft says inside the silicon

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Forbes says passing over it Forbes is almost certainly more correct than Microsoft here

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sorry Microsoft inside the silicon would break it both the method and the AI are from specialized

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swiss startup corintis Microsoft has claimed a 3x improvement to cooling compared to traditional

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cold plates the channels need to be deep enough to circulate coolant without clogging but not weaken

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the silicon enough to break four design iterations were produced in just the last year and the chips

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needed to be designed with a leak proof package what that's wild dude this is so cool yeah I was

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worried about playing the video because yeah whatever it's from Microsoft it should be fine

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realistically if for Microsoft to be like is that nuts like go go back go back to that that was

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dude that's crazy look at this that's nuts so you just you just plumb the coolant directly up to the

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are you kidding me right now actually okay

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do you think we could do it ourselves well not obviously we wouldn't have the micro fluid channels

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yeah but do you think we could seal something against a board well enough to just like pump

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coolant into it right to the die yeah you think so I think so not anywhere I mean that was a render

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but not anywhere near as as clean as I think they're proposing that they're going to be doing

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like I don't I don't think we'd be able to do it on a desktop socket just because then you have the

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socket to contend with but if we were to do it on like a framework motherboard or something like

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that and just just basically like you know use the cock just put all the cock around the CPU

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we'll need a lot of cock a lot a lot and then just just plumb it in there just lay on the cock

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just lay on it yep and then like what kind of shape would we need it would have to be like

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it couldn't go all the way around because you'd have to have an opening yeah you'd have to have an

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opening maybe a flat side so it kind of be it'd be like like the d somewhere yeah yeah yeah yeah

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anyway the point is the reason that I wanted to talk about this the reason this is like a main topic

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rather than you know like a whatever they're called rapid fire topic is because I saw something

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really cool today and I know it's not going to make you jealous because you're going somewhere

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cooler than me next week but wait what no I'm excited to hear it oh okay but it was very cool

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so our bros over at Simon Fraser University here in beautiful British Columbia last time you

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worked with them it was sick how long ago do you think that video was six years

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it was eight years ago whoa that's the shooting relatively high that's the

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fence I made oh my god because I looked it up because I wanted to grab a b-roll clip from the

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last time as I was writing the script and I was like you gotta be kidding me right now

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that's not yeah the last the last time we worked with them was eight years ago and at that time

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they were rolling out I believe it's codename cedar Canada's fastest supercomputer well guess

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what baby this time things are getting furry if you know what I'm saying beaver codename fur

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oh yeah nice they're named after trees cool yeah so this time around if I are they just rolled out

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their fur super computing cluster and it makes cedar look like it's made of wood like it's

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dude cedar is like hobo garbage compared to fur it's amazing um there have you already seen it I

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was there this week nice okay yeah so so the reason that I I felt it was related to this is that

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we haven't actually gotten many opportunities to look at liquid cooling in the data center

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so we did that thing with equinix a little while back but and they had some liquid cooled racks

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but they were inside a cage that belonged to a customer because that's equinix's business right

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I got to see it at ovh well I didn't go there we couldn't look at certain things too closely and

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stuff I got to look at everything oh so because sf you are the actual owners of the systems

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they were like yeah fuck it we're gonna pull a couple out of prod and so nice both a CPU node

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and a GPU node we got a chance to go right hands on with direct to die cooling systems

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we saw the uh we saw the liquid distribution units that go down at the end of the at the end of the

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aisle um we like got to oh my god they're beautiful so so the man they're okay so they had CPU nodes

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and GPU nodes as part of the cluster and the CPU nodes are one you okay 192 cores

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yeah but wait hold on did I say 192 cores no no that's wrong sorry one you two nodes per you

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192 cores per node jeez so so these are almost 400 cores per one you and there isn't a single

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fan in them not one it's just all water cool the CPU's are liquid cooled

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the memory is liquid cooled the nick is liquid cool the SSD bay is freaking liquid cool everything

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is liquid cooled and then the GPU the GPU one obviously adds the GPU's to that so they're

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using chilled liquid from the outside of the building they've got um evaporative cooling towers

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so they pull those in those go to their water doors so they have the same rear doors that they

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had last time did you watch the video last time i mean eight years ago i wouldn't forget i mean i

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don't remember but yes but basically you pull ambient air in the front of the rack it gets

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superheated essentially well not superheated in like a scientific sense but it gets heated up okay

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and then it comes out the back and then they have they they force the hot air through a door that is

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a big radiator that has chilled liquid running through it about 16 degrees celsius yeah and then

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by the time it gets crapped out into the aisle it's just room temperature so they don't have a

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traditional hot aisle cold aisle setup yeah they just have hot inside of the rack and then two

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cold aisles essentially a decent amount of this sounds pretty similar to ovh's setup so they still

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have water doors on the back and that just handles any waste heat from the power supply any networking

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that's inside the cabinet anything like that so they pump the primary loop right into those

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water doors so that's the glycol loop that goes out to the cooling towers then they go from the

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water doors to the cooling distribution units that are liquid distribution ldu so whatever

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they're called it's in the video so those are at the end of the aisle and then they've got a huge

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heat exchanger in those and when i say huge i mean f***ing massive 600 kilowatts

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600,000 watts heat exchangers in these things it's enough to it's enough to make a man all hot and

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bothered um and then so those have redundant pumps what's that mr daniel best sir sorry

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i did a bit at 600,000 yeah i know right how big are they they're not that big no no they're not that

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big the size of a building or like a room no no they're just at the end of the rack they look

00:24:01.400 --> 00:24:06.440
like a regular how much that possible a regular cabinet it's just a big heat exchanger man i mean

00:24:06.440 --> 00:24:11.000
that one in my in my basement yeah it's only like this big i forget i forget how many freaking

00:24:11.000 --> 00:24:16.440
watts that thing does but it's a lot like i the exchange is pretty nuts yeah crazy fluid to fluid

00:24:16.440 --> 00:24:23.320
heat exchange man it's efficient right anyway um so 600,000 watt heat exchanger and then they've

00:24:23.320 --> 00:24:29.720
got redundant pumps in there and those pump the secondary loop which goes directly to the system

00:24:29.720 --> 00:24:34.600
so you don't need glycol because it's all indoors you don't actually go outside to the cooling towers

00:24:34.600 --> 00:24:41.320
okay so that is different then oh okay is that different i believe so okay i'm if i'm remembering

00:24:41.320 --> 00:24:45.480
everything correctly most setups would have a primary and a secondary loop and they would use

00:24:45.480 --> 00:24:52.360
heat exchangers but yeah maybe no i mean i think ovh's all go outside do they i think so so just

00:24:52.440 --> 00:24:57.320
primary loop i believe so no secondary loop okay i don't don't quote us and that might not be true

00:24:57.320 --> 00:25:02.360
of every data center i also just might not remember correctly that they've done necessarily um okay so

00:25:02.360 --> 00:25:07.240
what was i what was i talking about next oh yes oh dude like it's crazy so you can i so i was actually

00:25:07.240 --> 00:25:12.680
able to like because their sfu systems there's no concerns about customer security or privacy or

00:25:12.680 --> 00:25:17.000
whatever so we were freaking we're freaking opening up like the heat exchanger cabinet i'm like oh i

00:25:17.000 --> 00:25:21.480
wonder which side is the hot side put my freaking hands on them like dude it's crazy so the hot

00:25:21.480 --> 00:25:25.960
side's like almost 40 degrees or something like that and so that goes into the heat exchanger and

00:25:25.960 --> 00:25:30.280
then that goes to i think the coolant coming out of the water doors is like it starts at 16 and a

00:25:30.280 --> 00:25:34.520
half it goes up to like 18 or 20 or something like that dude and the side of these these liquid

00:25:34.520 --> 00:25:39.000
distribution units they have like a touchscreen lcd on them that just shows like both loops and

00:25:39.000 --> 00:25:45.400
all the temperatures and pump rpms and everything they've got all the telemetry ah ah if only i had

00:25:45.400 --> 00:25:52.200
82 million canadian dollars then i too could have that i also have to have somewhere to put it i know

00:25:52.200 --> 00:25:59.640
a lot of schools actually do have quite a bit of money but i wonder like that's a lot of money for

00:25:59.640 --> 00:26:05.080
like student project stuff so i wonder what they're doing like student projects research yeah this is

00:26:05.080 --> 00:26:10.520
research i would imagine they might even lease out some of this compute i don't actually know that

00:26:10.520 --> 00:26:16.600
for sure um but i do know that the funding came from a combination of the federal government

00:26:16.600 --> 00:26:23.560
the provincial government and then also in kind discounts um from from the providers yeah so they

00:26:23.560 --> 00:26:29.240
mentioned lenovo shoot i'm gonna forget who they are they they also mentioned the the brand that did

00:26:29.240 --> 00:26:32.840
the cooling and the one other brand but they all get they're out they're all shouted out at the end

00:26:32.840 --> 00:26:39.320
of the video um it was an absolutely incredible tour though it was my first time getting to go full

00:26:39.880 --> 00:26:46.120
nuts and bolts hand on hands on with and like i gotta say man the loop layouts and these things

00:26:46.760 --> 00:26:56.680
are like wild like completely defy every law of efficient water cooling loop layout logic what

00:26:56.680 --> 00:27:03.720
do you mean how so like they are full of 90 degree bands oh they're everywhere and like they've got

00:27:04.200 --> 00:27:10.920
they're using these like teeny tiny like one eighth inch tubes inside there's like manifolds

00:27:10.920 --> 00:27:16.600
everywhere the whole thing doesn't look particularly balanced for flow restriction like do they just

00:27:16.600 --> 00:27:22.440
have like insane pressure and don't care like um but so they're taking a one eighth inch it looks

00:27:22.440 --> 00:27:26.040
like a one eighth inch tube maybe it's quarter inch i don't know how thick the walls are because

00:27:26.040 --> 00:27:31.480
it's all copper huh it's copper everywhere it's beautiful and they take that one like one eighth

00:27:31.800 --> 00:27:36.200
maybe one quarter inch tube and it goes to a manifold that goes to those four gpus each of

00:27:36.200 --> 00:27:44.040
which is 700 watts oh did i even mention the GPU nodes are one you have 48 CPU cores they can

00:27:44.040 --> 00:27:50.280
actually do two dual cpus they could you could put 192 cores in there and then they have four h100s

00:27:50.280 --> 00:27:58.920
in each one you not a single fan not one how much is an h100 don't worry about it about 30 grand

00:27:59.480 --> 00:28:06.040
i thought it was the h200 i don't think they're priced that differently oh and these are h100 80

00:28:06.040 --> 00:28:12.120
gigs which are like the better h100 yes and then the h200 has even more memory if i recall correctly

00:28:12.120 --> 00:28:20.840
but uses the same hopper architecture oh yeah some of these are really expensive uh yeah see 40k

00:28:20.840 --> 00:28:25.000
for one of them but it's from a reseller so i have no idea what people are actually buying the

00:28:25.240 --> 00:28:29.960
yeah and you know that completely ignores any in-kind discounts that you get as an educational

00:28:29.960 --> 00:28:33.800
institution or whatever sfu wasn't able to tell me what they paid for them so we just

00:28:33.800 --> 00:28:38.440
kind of used sure you know word on the street of pricing for them yep

00:28:40.680 --> 00:28:46.040
they did say the total budget though it was 82 million canadian dollars so that's basically

00:28:46.040 --> 00:28:52.360
all the money in canada so did they did they decommission cedar yeah they hit they actually

00:28:52.920 --> 00:28:58.360
i couldn't quite tell if they were joking or not so i said no thanks i'm good but they offered to

00:28:58.360 --> 00:29:06.440
just like hand me a node and like you know they were like need any ssds or i'm pretty sure they

00:29:06.440 --> 00:29:12.040
were kidding but i didn't want to get anybody in trouble so i just i just said no and laughed along

00:29:12.040 --> 00:29:16.360
and we didn't take anything out and they nothing left their facility everything's good everything's

00:29:16.360 --> 00:29:21.720
chill but i'm pretty sure they were joking but no it was just pieces of cedar we're just sitting on

00:29:21.720 --> 00:29:28.120
racks just i mean it was eight years ago what are they gonna do yeah no who's gonna want an

00:29:28.120 --> 00:29:32.120
eight-year-old super computer i mean we talked about this on WAN Show remember when that like

00:29:32.120 --> 00:29:37.560
used to be a top 10 super computer or whatever it was was for sale on ebay you remember that right

00:29:37.560 --> 00:29:42.120
oh yeah and we we basically had so many people linked it to me we're like line is you should buy

00:29:42.120 --> 00:29:49.880
a super computer and it's like not necessarily because while the processors and maybe the

00:29:49.880 --> 00:29:56.040
memory might have some value those platforms are basically garbage because they cost more to run

00:29:56.040 --> 00:30:01.320
than they're worth to run which is why they're being decommissioned because the new stuff is so

00:30:01.320 --> 00:30:07.800
much more efficient that by the time you spend all that money on power you're way better off just

00:30:07.800 --> 00:30:15.560
buying new stuff and powering that instead of running the older stuff uh yeah was it was it

00:30:15.560 --> 00:30:20.600
Cheyenne was that it was that the one that was for sale i forget it was it was one of it was well

00:30:20.600 --> 00:30:27.320
it was a major super computer super computer that might be the one yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah

00:30:30.120 --> 00:30:34.200
Cheyenne super computer sold at auction for half a million dollars so i mean when this thing

00:30:34.200 --> 00:30:38.040
would have been purchased it would have been a flip in fortune this is this is loading too slow

00:30:38.040 --> 00:30:41.480
and i'm actually not that invested in anymore uh what are we supposed to be doing next Dan

00:30:42.200 --> 00:30:45.480
you're a little early so you can keep doing more topics if you want uh we don't

00:30:45.480 --> 00:30:50.360
have like a ton of topics this week so why don't we just let's go into merch messages then all right

00:30:50.360 --> 00:30:55.640
those of you who are new to the WAN Show we don't do super chats we don't do twitch bits we do

00:30:55.640 --> 00:31:00.120
merch messages because the way we see it when you throw your money at the screen you should

00:31:00.120 --> 00:31:05.320
get something thrown right back in your face in this case high quality merchandise from

00:31:05.320 --> 00:31:13.960
lttstore.com where are my callouts i don't see them cw announcements there they are oh

00:31:13.960 --> 00:31:19.080
oh we have some very exciting things for you folks luke would you like to model it

00:31:19.640 --> 00:31:24.760
oh yes we have more tall shirts whoa i don't know i can stand but i'm gonna go right out of frame

00:31:24.760 --> 00:31:30.840
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wow got 11 it's amazing they're not just black shirts i know it's kind of a curse for me because

00:31:39.960 --> 00:31:43.720
now i need to buy a bunch more shirts uh do you want to load up lttstore while i talk to you

00:31:43.720 --> 00:31:51.560
yes it is up i'm done we have a new fall colors drop um in both long sleeve and short sleeve

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00:32:00.200 --> 00:32:11.240
uh uh you'll find it there it is stone shadow and cranberry which is what luke's wearing so we can

00:32:11.240 --> 00:32:17.400
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00:32:23.000 --> 00:32:28.600
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00:32:28.600 --> 00:32:34.360
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00:32:34.360 --> 00:32:39.800
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00:32:39.800 --> 00:32:47.240
people who are shopping for the products and there's more the defrag sale is wrapping up and

00:32:47.240 --> 00:32:53.160
stock is almost gone we've got crazy pricing do you want to pull it up on the hotdog v-neck

00:32:53.160 --> 00:32:58.680
the maze screensaver party shirt he's looking for it he's going to find it i misclicked

00:32:58.680 --> 00:33:05.320
i'm gonna click the arrow he's got this there we go the blank or the excuse me the blank the black

00:33:05.320 --> 00:33:12.920
task jacket and dropout hoodies once they're gone they're gone uh friendly reminder wish i had

00:33:12.920 --> 00:33:21.880
mentioned this last week um try to bundle these with something else because um as you can probably

00:33:21.880 --> 00:33:28.840
tell no we are not making money on these at these kinds of discounts so that would be super cool

00:33:29.640 --> 00:33:36.040
neat uh there's also like uh some of these don't have any stock left like i think the cpo pillow

00:33:36.040 --> 00:33:42.520
is gone oh yeah yeah yeah but that does not mean that they're all out of stock some of them might

00:33:42.520 --> 00:33:46.840
have just one size like he mentioned the task jacket that one just has a medium yeah but the

00:33:46.840 --> 00:33:51.160
discounts are pretty nuts so it's decently worth checking through here seeing what ones are still

00:33:51.160 --> 00:33:58.760
around all right uh what else we got and finally behind the seams feature we put out a behind the

00:33:58.760 --> 00:34:03.240
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00:34:03.240 --> 00:34:09.800
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00:34:19.560 --> 00:34:25.960
cool all right you want to pick a topic we're gonna read a couple merch all right

00:34:25.960 --> 00:34:29.640
merch messages sorry sorry oh right we never explained how to send a merch message all you

00:34:29.640 --> 00:34:36.200
got to do is go to lttstore.com oh there we go add something to your cart say for example uh a tall

00:34:36.200 --> 00:34:42.680
fit t-shirt in cranberry hey look at that then you can look just like luke and Jake bell Jake bell

00:34:42.680 --> 00:34:47.400
is not tall why did he model these okay you know what it doesn't matter the point is uh we are live

00:34:47.400 --> 00:34:51.240
so you just click i would like my purchase to appear as a merch message on the LTT stream

00:34:51.240 --> 00:34:58.600
you just send your merch message and it'll go to producer Dan uh okay i'm wearing a shirt get out

00:34:58.600 --> 00:35:03.080
of here get out of here there we go it'll go to producer Dan who will put it down there or who

00:35:03.080 --> 00:35:08.520
will reply to it or oh yeah sorry right oh he hit the thing or he will curate it and we're

00:35:08.520 --> 00:35:12.440
going to show you guys what that looks like Dan do you want to read us a curated message or two

00:35:12.440 --> 00:35:18.280
yeah sure i've got a bunch here hey wanboys at Linus you and avon have loads of experience

00:35:18.280 --> 00:35:23.320
building stuff and managing complex projects now would you ever consider building a house

00:35:23.320 --> 00:35:29.640
maybe a holiday home or something one of the things that i've learned from all the experience

00:35:29.640 --> 00:35:37.800
that i have with big projects is that every big project will contain so many stumbling blocks and

00:35:37.800 --> 00:35:42.600
so many fun things to learn that just because you have a lot of experience managing projects

00:35:42.600 --> 00:35:46.440
doesn't necessarily mean that all of a sudden you're an expert at everything and you should

00:35:46.440 --> 00:35:51.640
just manage any kind of project if anything i would say the more experience i get the more i

00:35:51.640 --> 00:35:59.880
realize that i don't know and the fewer things i can assume i mean let's look at whale land for

00:35:59.880 --> 00:36:06.360
instance sure when we acquired that building for the badminton club and then also we wanted to do

00:36:06.440 --> 00:36:12.760
quarterly gaming events i kind of went well it's got lots of space it's got lots of power

00:36:12.760 --> 00:36:16.600
we work out a deal with the neighbors we get some parking in here everything should be fine

00:36:18.920 --> 00:36:25.560
how long ago was that two years three two years i think it was two years okay it was two years

00:36:25.560 --> 00:36:30.920
and we are the building two years ago oh easy i thought it's more than that uh

00:36:31.800 --> 00:36:37.800
i oh i mean we might have like commercial real estate moves slow we might have like signed papers

00:36:37.800 --> 00:36:41.720
way before i don't remember when we signed papers go because remember too it was only going to be

00:36:41.720 --> 00:36:48.760
half the size and then by the time we actually made a video about it it was two sides yeah and a whole

00:36:48.760 --> 00:36:53.320
we had to go tear up most of the blueprints and redo them and it was a whole it was a whole thing

00:36:53.320 --> 00:37:02.600
anyway uh the point is that we are now a couple of years in and the first whale land is tomorrow

00:37:04.200 --> 00:37:12.120
so oh yeah okay and homes you know look how long the home reno took and that's a reno

00:37:12.920 --> 00:37:17.640
and to be clear there are a lot of things that would have gone faster with a ground up build

00:37:17.640 --> 00:37:21.960
but there's also a lot of things that might not have and that we might have overlooked

00:37:21.960 --> 00:37:28.760
dude when we were shopping for our current place oh wow we probably saw 40 50 properties

00:37:28.760 --> 00:37:34.040
like during the course of the multiple years that we were shopping our poor realtor um we

00:37:34.040 --> 00:37:37.640
tried to go to a lot of open houses and stuff so that we didn't have to like you know drag him out

00:37:37.640 --> 00:37:44.040
but the point is we saw a lot of places and i think luke has actually been to the neighborhood

00:37:44.040 --> 00:37:50.040
where evan and i saw a lot of places and um there's a lot of custom homes there

00:37:50.040 --> 00:38:00.200
oh yeah a lot of a lot of well-intentioned and uh creative weird stuff creative first time

00:38:00.200 --> 00:38:08.280
home designers um you know if it works perfectly for you and you live there forever yeah who cares

00:38:08.280 --> 00:38:12.920
like i remember seeing this one place that was like i was like why isn't this selling it's huge

00:38:12.920 --> 00:38:18.120
and it's priced so well like it's probably like 7 000 square feet or something and we get to it and

00:38:18.120 --> 00:38:25.720
we realize oh this only has three bedrooms in it because they had two kids and they were like

00:38:26.280 --> 00:38:30.760
well why would we need another bedroom that's all we need and that's great but

00:38:30.760 --> 00:38:36.440
unless you have another small family that wants to live in like a mega-sized house that just has all

00:38:36.440 --> 00:38:43.640
these like spaces that don't seem to have any purpose then good luck selling what about second

00:38:43.640 --> 00:38:50.920
billiards room exactly it's we saw we saw it the one of the places that we saw had a ballroom in it

00:38:50.920 --> 00:38:59.000
yeah which like sure i'm not kidding you're doing a lot of galas probably not no like if you're into

00:38:59.000 --> 00:39:07.480
it not so much that's wonderful and i'm i'm happy for you but i do not um i do not i do not ballroom

00:39:08.840 --> 00:39:15.480
or i well that depends are we talking like plastic orb's oh because then i'm super into it

00:39:18.600 --> 00:39:24.040
anyway yeah so it was like this comically big house with just like like three bedrooms in it

00:39:24.040 --> 00:39:28.760
and i was like okay yeah that doesn't really make a ton of sense so people don't tend to build what's

00:39:28.760 --> 00:39:33.400
balanced they tend to build what works perfectly for them and i think we've seen enough of what's

00:39:33.400 --> 00:39:39.400
perfectly designed for me to know that that probably wouldn't appeal to anyone else so building that

00:39:39.400 --> 00:39:47.320
house would legitimately be a terrible idea unless i were to sort of temper my my specific needs

00:39:47.320 --> 00:39:51.560
and build something that is better suited for the general populace in which case almost what's the

00:39:51.560 --> 00:39:57.640
point why do i bother yeah i should just buy a house that's a professional design honey why is the

00:39:57.720 --> 00:40:05.720
server room bigger than the living room to fit all the computers obviously okay what if you what if

00:40:05.720 --> 00:40:12.440
you worked with an architect who i thought you're supposed to took just just vague ideas

00:40:13.960 --> 00:40:19.640
and made you something cool i mean at that point though i mean i i i guess the main reason that

00:40:19.640 --> 00:40:25.160
i wouldn't bother is that we already found a house that was damn close in terms of the bones

00:40:25.800 --> 00:40:30.920
and then extensively modified it your place's layout is super cool and very unique my layout is

00:40:32.360 --> 00:40:36.760
like perfect at this point never seen a place like that it's not it's not perfect but it's

00:40:36.760 --> 00:40:41.640
it's perfect for me it's we we did change a lot but your needs and wants are going to change so

00:40:41.640 --> 00:40:47.320
perfect is never really going to fit anyways dude my eldest is going to be like moved out in like five

00:40:47.400 --> 00:40:56.840
years right sure crazy in this economy yeah i kind of doubt it depends on how well they go to school

00:40:58.440 --> 00:41:05.480
where i don't know on campus i don't know renting with friends roommates yeah that's really expensive

00:41:05.480 --> 00:41:13.000
these days so it depends on how much you're helping out that might be a commute that's a long commute

00:41:13.480 --> 00:41:19.560
depends what school yeah that's fair enough sky train's coming out here that's right yeah that's

00:41:19.560 --> 00:41:28.760
true that's true either way my point is it will legally be an adult in that time yeah like that's

00:41:29.720 --> 00:41:35.480
mind blowing that's weird my sf u tour was eight years ago you know

00:41:36.440 --> 00:41:43.400
when he was like this high time is flying i was talking about um at manufacturers say yeah the other

00:41:43.400 --> 00:41:48.360
day because i was talking about like you know i think it's been three four years since we've made

00:41:48.360 --> 00:41:55.400
one of those um uh three four years dude i thought that was the last one that came up when i looked

00:41:55.400 --> 00:42:04.120
at it uh i mean you can check hold on we'll go look laptop here loop laptop rear create thanks

00:42:04.440 --> 00:42:13.480
thanks laptop or any air laptop any air anyway four years ago oh okay all right

00:42:13.480 --> 00:42:18.760
this has there been one since then i don't think so yeah so for you and it was probably years before

00:42:18.760 --> 00:42:24.360
that one since we had looked at that series something i did find though is that hey look

00:42:24.360 --> 00:42:30.200
i'm always the victim i'm never to blame that's good to know no no you gotta go higher is that new

00:42:30.760 --> 00:42:37.480
oh no that's that one eight months ago hold on uh no that's not up there yeah that's a holy

00:42:39.000 --> 00:42:44.280
but the actual like manufacturers say once they like always banged they did really well

00:42:44.280 --> 00:42:49.640
basically every time um i was talking about that series in general like how it started with like

00:42:49.640 --> 00:42:58.200
the Gigabyte black backplate thing oh yeah right all that chaos um and i i realized that the Gigabyte

00:42:58.200 --> 00:43:05.480
backplate video is like ancient oh yeah it's like that was ten years ago yeah yeah yeah yeah

00:43:06.200 --> 00:43:10.680
Gigabyte painted their backplates black or something to like help them they were copper

00:43:10.680 --> 00:43:15.480
backplates were they oh right it was right over the GPU die and they said it would like cool they

00:43:15.480 --> 00:43:19.720
said it would lower by three degrees i'm pretty sure yeah and the real thing was that their old

00:43:19.720 --> 00:43:25.720
backplates were really bad so you could either have this copper backplate or just no backplate

00:43:25.720 --> 00:43:28.840
and it would have been fine and it would have been fine right but having their old backplates

00:43:28.840 --> 00:43:35.480
like increased the temperature so it was a benefit versus having their old bad one uh if i i think

00:43:35.480 --> 00:43:41.720
that's how it was but you'd have to watch that old video and i think you'd have to watch the like

00:43:41.720 --> 00:43:48.920
instagram video i think that we posted because they they they like called me their board called me at

00:43:48.920 --> 00:43:52.600
like three in the morning or something i still have no idea how they got my phone number um

00:43:53.320 --> 00:43:59.960
they have their v's yeah and then they they um they like push for me to take the video down and

00:43:59.960 --> 00:44:05.320
we were just like no uh but but they were like okay we can have our engineers like correct your

00:44:05.320 --> 00:44:10.520
information for you and i was like okay their engineers told us the like yeah it's versus our

00:44:10.520 --> 00:44:16.600
old bad backplate versus nothing it's it's zero change this was like a technical marketing issue

00:44:16.600 --> 00:44:21.480
so i brought that to their board and was like this is what your people told me and they were like

00:44:21.480 --> 00:44:26.520
okay please post like an update and i was like you don't want me to do this and they're like no

00:44:26.520 --> 00:44:32.280
please do it and i was like okay uh and then it was just bad yeah nice i don't know the whole

00:44:32.280 --> 00:44:36.360
thing was weird uh it's probably reach out to manufacturers before we post the videos i think

00:44:36.360 --> 00:44:42.120
we learned that bit um i mean we weren't even wrong on that one we're not gonna post it yeah

00:44:42.120 --> 00:44:46.200
but i think we don't need to like jump scare people that's true they can at least know it's

00:44:46.200 --> 00:44:54.280
coming that's true we do have a process now where the um the partnerships team gets the

00:44:54.280 --> 00:45:00.520
schedule of what videos are coming so they can at least be like hey be ready yeah yeah which is

00:45:00.520 --> 00:45:06.840
like you know we were gonna post it anyways yeah but like you know at least yeah i think the uh i

00:45:06.840 --> 00:45:13.640
think the the the the the the sheet for it is like brand brand unsafe videos upcoming and they don't

00:45:13.720 --> 00:45:20.200
they don't interfere with the editorial team but you know it's just nice for them to be

00:45:20.200 --> 00:45:27.400
to be ready to prepare their inbox yeah yeah to receive an email they knew exactly what they're

00:45:27.400 --> 00:45:33.400
doing all publicity is good publicity no as much as i slammed them i actually don't agree there was

00:45:33.400 --> 00:45:38.920
there was people on that call that called me that had genuinely no idea at all what was happening

00:45:38.920 --> 00:45:46.280
and they thought the claim was real they read it just the way that i did and assumed that it was

00:45:46.280 --> 00:45:52.280
a real thing that they were claiming and they assumed that they were not lying someone saw this

00:45:52.280 --> 00:45:58.360
data either misinterpret it or or construed it in some way and then that got through and got

00:45:58.360 --> 00:46:05.560
published big companies stuff happens it turns out that when you have a thousand or ten thousand

00:46:05.640 --> 00:46:12.360
or a hundred thousand people they are not all marching in lockstep yeah i'm like it just doesn't

00:46:12.360 --> 00:46:18.760
work like that okay no it doesn't make it good no but what it does make it is not malicious it's

00:46:18.760 --> 00:46:24.280
understandable most of the time sometimes it totally is sometimes it seems to be totally malicious

00:46:24.280 --> 00:46:28.200
i don't know that this one was i i doubt it in my opinion i suspect someone on the technical

00:46:28.200 --> 00:46:35.320
marketing team just didn't understand and just was like oh yeah i see number went up by three so

00:46:35.720 --> 00:46:43.160
it goes up by three very good i mean you would be amazed how much of the marketing and sales

00:46:43.160 --> 00:46:51.320
teams of even like very broadly speaking very technical companies don't know that much about

00:46:51.320 --> 00:46:57.160
tech this is also i have also heard from many different people that work in the industry

00:46:57.160 --> 00:47:01.880
that work on the products themselves yeah i've heard from them about being very frustrated

00:47:01.880 --> 00:47:08.280
with the technical marketing teams and how they've taken certain claims and exaggerated them well

00:47:08.280 --> 00:47:13.240
that's the thing is they're good at sales they're good at marketing they are not necessarily good

00:47:13.240 --> 00:47:20.040
at tech and don't necessarily care about that because it has nothing to do with their kpis

00:47:20.040 --> 00:47:25.560
and the reality of it is that you might say well then it's these companies fault for not

00:47:25.560 --> 00:47:30.840
hiring more technical people to do sales and marketing but you gotta understand sales and

00:47:30.840 --> 00:47:39.720
marketing have to talk to people i'll leave the rest of it unsaid yeah and again it doesn't make

00:47:39.720 --> 00:47:46.600
it okay it doesn't make it good i just understand that's that's all and we and if we want to diagnose

00:47:46.600 --> 00:47:51.320
the problem and if we want to find a way to move forward we have to understand these things because

00:47:51.400 --> 00:47:54.280
it's our job to work in this industry you know forever

00:47:59.160 --> 00:48:08.600
so it is what it is yep another one sure oh was that still a merch? yeah that was one

00:48:09.320 --> 00:48:16.120
okay sure you made a computer including a case for the youtuber winter garden that's not really a

00:48:16.120 --> 00:48:21.640
question he now needs a storage server for his external hard drive collection of all his work

00:48:22.360 --> 00:48:30.360
you want to help it maybe and yes want your stickers um that was a super cool build i don't

00:48:30.360 --> 00:48:34.040
know if you ever saw that one the wood pc it had the like working wooden gears

00:48:36.280 --> 00:48:43.400
like motorized i think hold on yeah hold on it was it was pretty cool yeah the amazing wooden pc

00:48:44.360 --> 00:48:50.440
yeah i remember that one yeah years ago that was awesome it was sponsored by solidworks

00:48:51.560 --> 00:48:57.160
that's his that's not ours this is ours so we basically laser etched a thing and then we

00:48:57.160 --> 00:49:04.280
we made these gears turn which was which was super cool um we haven't really done as much

00:49:04.280 --> 00:49:09.800
hey we built a wild pc that was sort of like themed in this way i miss those i like those a lot

00:49:09.800 --> 00:49:13.720
i think that's something that we could do more of what i was saying is it was something that

00:49:13.720 --> 00:49:24.360
started to not perform as well i mean remember it kind of it kind of felt like it had a bit of a

00:49:25.400 --> 00:49:32.280
a bit of a Ryzen popularity kind of like you know game themed modded pcs back in the day

00:49:33.080 --> 00:49:38.520
like you'd go to trade shows and a booth like gskill for instance would be nothing but these

00:49:38.520 --> 00:49:46.040
like wild like modded pcs and stuff like that and then people got kind of numb to it and videos

00:49:46.040 --> 00:49:51.640
showcasing that kind of thing they they stopped really they stopped really enticing people and

00:49:51.640 --> 00:49:56.840
where do you think that stopped because this is this is three years ago and it's more the

00:49:56.840 --> 00:50:03.400
momentum youtube is funky man um youtube says three years ago i expand the description it's

00:50:03.400 --> 00:50:12.200
almost four twenty twenty one yeah uh oh 23rd december 2021 yeah okay uh yeah it'll be four

00:50:12.200 --> 00:50:17.880
years ago in december of this year yeah so anyway the point is that there's probably a lot of people

00:50:17.880 --> 00:50:22.760
like hundreds of thousands of people out there that are like but i want to watch those videos i

00:50:22.760 --> 00:50:29.640
would have watched the crap out of those videos um but that's the thing that people i think sometimes

00:50:29.880 --> 00:50:36.680
lose track of or or don't realize is that when we're looking at the numbers we're looking at

00:50:36.680 --> 00:50:44.040
aggregate numbers and not just individual numbers um and so it was really interesting over the last

00:50:44.040 --> 00:50:49.480
couple of weeks as we dived into some of the inside baseball behind youtube's algorithmic

00:50:49.480 --> 00:50:57.160
recommendations and how they do or don't register views uh you know when ad blocker is um is being

00:50:57.160 --> 00:51:03.080
used and and we kind of we kind of talked about these things and um the big headline that a lot

00:51:03.080 --> 00:51:07.720
of people who didn't look that deep into it or listen to what we were saying globed on too was

00:51:07.720 --> 00:51:14.280
that LTT has fallen off right like that was kind of the takeaway for anyone who wanted that to be

00:51:14.280 --> 00:51:20.120
the takeaway and i'll be the first to tell you guys that our viewership is not as high as it was

00:51:20.120 --> 00:51:28.920
three years ago um but we also haven't fallen off completely either and that's not necessarily the

00:51:28.920 --> 00:51:36.200
conclusion but that doesn't change that uh opinions are like assholes and many people had opinions

00:51:36.200 --> 00:51:41.560
about you know what specific content it was of ours that was the reason that we had fallen off

00:51:41.560 --> 00:51:46.680
whether it was because we were doing content that was bad or because we had stopped doing content

00:51:46.680 --> 00:51:54.360
that was really good and uh one of the funniest ones for me was people on both sides saying

00:51:55.000 --> 00:51:58.760
they build too many computers and i'm bored of it or on the other side going

00:52:00.200 --> 00:52:04.200
they don't build enough computers anymore that's what i want to watch do you think it might have

00:52:04.200 --> 00:52:08.520
been oversaturated and now it's cooled down we could hit it again and being equally certain

00:52:08.520 --> 00:52:17.000
no i don't um build a pc as a genre is highly competitive because it's super easy to do and

00:52:17.000 --> 00:52:25.960
it's um it's one where i feel like you we especially are inherently going to struggle with it because

00:52:25.960 --> 00:52:31.800
there's almost nothing for us to say that we've never said before that was why we did build a

00:52:31.800 --> 00:52:37.000
how to build a pc the last guy you'll ever need because what's the last one that you what's the

00:52:37.000 --> 00:52:42.520
last like uh we did a pov one more recently because it had been quite a while and i felt

00:52:42.520 --> 00:52:47.000
that we were due for an update because the first pov build guide and it really is the easiest one

00:52:47.000 --> 00:52:52.360
to follow along with the amazing wooden pc it's not a build guide is it it's like a no that's no

00:52:52.360 --> 00:52:58.280
no no that one's like it's like a build log yeah it's like yeah four four years ago so more recently

00:52:58.280 --> 00:53:04.840
we did the um uh the acoustic baffle one was pretty cool the most like silent pc um

00:53:05.320 --> 00:53:11.400
um we did i'd say we've taken the the idea and we've adapted a little bit so we did buy our

00:53:11.400 --> 00:53:17.080
diy with the arcade cabinet in fact that's the thing that's behind me right here um that was

00:53:17.080 --> 00:53:22.680
a cool build log like building a pc in a novel form factor we've just we've tried to add another

00:53:22.680 --> 00:53:28.840
layer to it other than just we built a computer uh because they started to be pretty sluggish for us

00:53:29.560 --> 00:53:35.400
um anyway like another one that that people are sort of quick to to diagnose as like the

00:53:35.400 --> 00:53:40.040
the reason that we're you know we're falling off is because we need to do more of it or

00:53:40.040 --> 00:53:46.440
because we need to do less of it is um oh man actually no i forgot i had it in my brain but

00:53:46.440 --> 00:53:51.320
now i've forgotten and honestly it's probably boring anyway so why don't why don't we move on

00:53:51.320 --> 00:53:54.760
we can do it do a new topic i forget what the question was did i ever actually answer it

00:53:55.560 --> 00:54:01.640
oh could we do a nas uh huh man that's one where you can only build nazis so many times um

00:54:02.360 --> 00:54:06.840
if he reaches out and kind of you know lays out what he needs and if we can come up with a unique

00:54:06.840 --> 00:54:12.920
idea um you know make it so like if a hard drive fails it drops a marble in his machine

00:54:13.800 --> 00:54:19.560
that'd be kind of cool um you could totally do that we have a lot of projects right now

00:54:20.520 --> 00:54:25.080
so i'm not in a position where i could say like oh yeah we could like we could execute that on

00:54:25.080 --> 00:54:30.040
we could execute on that in like a super reasonable amount of time so i don't want to commit anything

00:54:30.040 --> 00:54:36.120
but anything's possible um in the case of that pc we had a really good sponsor that was super

00:54:36.120 --> 00:54:40.360
adjacent to what we were doing so sometimes it can rely on that because these can be really big

00:54:40.360 --> 00:54:46.280
projects um and sometimes you know we can't get all the hardware so we can't just go building like

00:54:46.280 --> 00:54:51.480
multi thousand dollar like nazis for people just out of our own pocket for no reason other than

00:54:51.480 --> 00:54:56.040
because they asked us for one necessarily uh that's one of the reasons that we'll you know we'll go

00:54:56.040 --> 00:55:00.040
and we'll bring in a sponsor or something like that and try to make it you know wins for everyone

00:55:00.040 --> 00:55:03.800
win for the sponsor win for our channel win for the audience they really enjoyed the content

00:55:03.800 --> 00:55:07.640
win for the other creator who gets you know hooked up with this stuff we try to we try to

00:55:07.640 --> 00:55:14.600
stack double use as much as we can oh yeah right i remember what the other genre was really expensive

00:55:14.600 --> 00:55:25.560
stuff it it is hilarious watching the the community broadly not agree on whether we

00:55:25.560 --> 00:55:30.840
should cover like outlandishly expensive stuff i don't think they ever have they never have

00:55:30.840 --> 00:55:38.840
and never will yeah every single video we upload that's like here i am unboxing the world's biggest

00:55:38.840 --> 00:55:47.800
tv or here's a 30 thousand dollar GPU it's gonna have it's gonna have some comment thread under

00:55:47.800 --> 00:55:54.520
it that's people that is people discussing how i remember when LTT used to be it reasonably priced

00:55:54.520 --> 00:56:06.440
stuff for reasonable folks it never was ever it never ever ever ever was and i don't but it always

00:56:06.440 --> 00:56:12.200
was and it always will be like how about this one four tech youtubers were challenged to build

00:56:12.200 --> 00:56:20.120
the best thousand dollar gaming pc that was a month ago um here's a review of a mid-range GPU

00:56:21.400 --> 00:56:26.120
you know you know here's scrapyard wars where we literally are trying to get the best deals

00:56:26.120 --> 00:56:33.240
that's the entire premise of it um so it's always been here's make your GPU faster for seven dollars

00:56:34.200 --> 00:56:41.080
it's always been both and this is gonna blow your mind you can watch the videos that appeal to you

00:56:44.120 --> 00:56:50.120
i know i know it's wild it's wild i don't know if i don't watch every single one i get the shakes

00:56:50.120 --> 00:56:55.400
i do think you kind of miss out i think that i think that the team does an incredible job of

00:56:55.400 --> 00:57:02.920
making sure that there's fun and educational bits in pretty much everything we upload i'm only

00:57:03.000 --> 00:57:09.160
hedging because there's gotta have been something at some point the content's so dense these days

00:57:09.160 --> 00:57:14.440
there's so much stuff going on every video is like 20 minutes and it's like 20 edited down minutes

00:57:15.240 --> 00:57:18.600
yeah i don't know how we used to do a 10 minute video anymore

00:57:19.960 --> 00:57:24.760
like maybe maybe that's something that we should explore like do a 10 minute video once in a while

00:57:24.760 --> 00:57:31.400
yeah but like okay can you imagine okay did you watch the one on the giant um display volume

00:57:32.040 --> 00:57:37.400
yes okay what could we have cut out i do that in 10 minutes how could we have cut 11 minutes out

00:57:37.400 --> 00:57:41.240
of that i almost wanted to see more and i'm not even like we did cut out a bunch yeah i'm sure

00:57:41.240 --> 00:57:48.360
like we we had to be we had to aggressively cut that down it's such a cool video like i i remember

00:57:48.360 --> 00:57:56.920
this this video nine years ago oh my god uh this video yeah i thought was incredibly long at 16 i

00:57:57.000 --> 00:58:01.480
gave you it because i was like this script is too long buddy no one ain't nobody got a

00:58:01.480 --> 00:58:07.000
tangent span for that yeah and now we regularly release like 20 to 30 minute when is the last

00:58:07.000 --> 00:58:14.280
time we had a 16 minute video not yesterday's not this rog rig reboot that's 23 minutes weirdest

00:58:14.280 --> 00:58:22.120
parts on aliexpress 19 minutes 19 minutes 29 minutes 21 minutes 16 minutes there we have to go back

00:58:22.120 --> 00:58:28.360
to the bose sound cannon acoustic wave cannon that one's still longer because mine is 16 19

00:58:28.360 --> 00:58:37.480
that was 16 24 so uh summarizing an apple event we managed to make that shorter one iphone announcement

00:58:40.760 --> 00:58:44.760
but there's i don't know there's just people i i don't know how to address that because

00:58:45.320 --> 00:58:51.480
if we say more people get bored and if we say less people feel like it's incomplete

00:58:52.360 --> 00:58:57.560
and maybe maybe maybe that's maybe that's partly on us like maybe we just need to be like okay yeah

00:58:57.560 --> 00:59:01.480
we're just not going to include everything maybe we should go back to shorter videos it's something

00:59:01.480 --> 00:59:06.120
we've talked about oh here we go because it's very burdensome on the editors it's burdensome on the

00:59:06.120 --> 00:59:12.360
writing department the only other one i did in that series eight minutes 31 seconds yeah

00:59:14.840 --> 00:59:19.000
yeah i remember when i when i had my like Floatplane weeks we do these things on float

00:59:19.000 --> 00:59:23.880
plane where we'll pick like a person and you make three pieces of content and it's it's a week

00:59:23.880 --> 00:59:30.440
dedicated to like your pieces of content yeah i made a video in there that was like about uh the

00:59:30.440 --> 00:59:35.240
state of the video game industry and it was like four and a half minutes or something but i mean

00:59:35.240 --> 00:59:40.040
there's no ads i kick right into it there's no need for like an intro and outro or anything

00:59:40.600 --> 00:59:45.720
there's no appetizer so i just go straight into the topic and talk about it i got everything i needed

00:59:45.800 --> 00:59:50.840
to say in it ended up being like very true with how things have been going on

00:59:51.880 --> 00:59:56.280
and people were pissed because it wasn't longer i was just saying i remember reading the comments

01:00:01.880 --> 01:00:10.200
used to make videos like if you if you add in like ad spot beginning and an intro a longer outro

01:00:10.200 --> 01:00:15.160
like all that stuff that you normally have that's probably about the length of this yeah what is

01:00:15.160 --> 01:00:20.280
going on with that's like maybe like 50 to 70 seconds of bloat just from kind of adding all

01:00:20.280 --> 01:00:27.320
that stuff yeah but no now it's it's 20 plus long minute videos wild it's crazy

01:00:29.640 --> 01:00:35.080
Dan what are we supposed to be doing that's got a couple more topics in there heck yeah google

01:00:35.080 --> 01:00:43.000
reveals its Android pc coming in 2026 back in july of 2025 okay so this so two months ago

01:00:43.960 --> 01:00:50.600
google's Android president samir sumat confirmed in a tech radar interview that they will be

01:00:50.600 --> 01:00:55.720
combining chromo s and Android into a single platform the interview was very broad and not

01:00:55.720 --> 01:01:00.440
chromo s focused but sumat did mention he was very interested in laptop productivity

01:01:00.440 --> 01:01:06.360
and they are combining Android and chromo s all right fast forward to qualcomm's snapdragon summit

01:01:06.680 --> 01:01:13.800
24th 2025 so two days ago so matt says they're committed to the chromo s platform

01:01:14.920 --> 01:01:19.400
does that mean older chromo s systems will still receive support hasn't been confirmed

01:01:19.400 --> 01:01:25.480
so matt also stated that Android tablets have shown to be a productivity machine and a success for

01:01:25.480 --> 01:01:29.800
them so basically we can't believe anything he says i okay that's really interesting because

01:01:29.800 --> 01:01:36.280
i read these notes before the show i read that one line and i had that exact word for word reaction

01:01:36.280 --> 01:01:40.040
of just like none of this matters anymore that's obviously a lie

01:01:44.840 --> 01:01:48.440
interesting yeah does he is he thinking of ipads

01:01:50.520 --> 01:01:56.920
yeah pretty much i mean Android tablets exist but like they seem to be like sign-up giveaways

01:01:58.200 --> 01:02:04.040
you know what i mean like they're not really no they're expensive dude no i only know this because

01:02:04.040 --> 01:02:07.960
i was trying to remember when we used to use a big Android tablet for our teleprompter yeah

01:02:07.960 --> 01:02:12.200
and i was trying to buy new ones and i was like oh my god i'm not spending five six hundred dollars

01:02:12.200 --> 01:02:17.000
on an Android tablet this is ridiculous and i had to go find some ancient honeycomb thing that was

01:02:17.000 --> 01:02:22.840
like someone was selling used and it was it was a really weird deal for some reason like i think

01:02:22.840 --> 01:02:27.480
it turned out like they knew me when i got it doesn't matter the point is that like i got another

01:02:28.280 --> 01:02:34.280
old like tegra 2 tablets and oh boy and we had i had to figure out how to like install a new os on

01:02:34.280 --> 01:02:38.760
it i had to do some like adb like yeah it was a whole thing because i didn't want to spend more than

01:02:38.760 --> 01:02:43.960
like a couple hundred bucks on an Android tablet because they're not worth that to me so but to

01:02:43.960 --> 01:02:49.880
be clear there are very cheap Android tablets yeah but they're really crappy oh yeah so i wanted

01:02:49.880 --> 01:02:54.680
something that was in that middle ground of like being decent because i was gonna use it for a

01:02:54.680 --> 01:02:58.600
teleprompter i needed the screen to be good and i needed the right you know performance to be okay

01:02:58.600 --> 01:03:03.720
and stuff i needed to be reliable um but also and i needed to be big of course it doesn't need to be

01:03:03.720 --> 01:03:07.800
that great but i need to be reliable i wanted a 10 inch tablet and there was like nothing in that

01:03:07.800 --> 01:03:12.120
class this is years ago though uh there was nothing in that size class that was like reasonably

01:03:12.120 --> 01:03:16.360
priced um and so i was just i was blown away by how expensive Android tablets are and they still

01:03:16.360 --> 01:03:20.520
are like if you want to buy a samsung or something they're not cheap yeah i mean i didn't even

01:03:21.080 --> 01:03:26.760
like this is 800 bucks i do wonder if in other markets they're doing okay like how many reviews

01:03:26.760 --> 01:03:33.480
are there for that uh 126 okay so they're clearly selling some i'm fairly certain best buy reviews

01:03:33.480 --> 01:03:44.120
are unified i think it's both sites oh so and maybe in other markets they're doing really great oh

01:03:44.840 --> 01:03:51.480
okay so they've aggregated reviews from lord only knows where yeah interesting these are

01:03:51.480 --> 01:04:00.360
like all that way okay cute um okay that's weird they also and this is where your eyes might really

01:04:00.360 --> 01:04:05.560
roll completely out of their sockets um they specifically want to bring the advancements

01:04:06.360 --> 01:04:08.520
with ai on Android to chrome os

01:04:12.040 --> 01:04:19.000
neat the solution then google is combining Android and chrome os to make a new os for pc's

01:04:19.720 --> 01:04:25.640
the baseline of Android for for pc's will be Android as a base with the chrome os experience

01:04:25.640 --> 01:04:31.320
on top of it this appears to be a collaborative effort between google qualcomm and other partners

01:04:31.320 --> 01:04:37.000
that weren't mentioned the senior vp of a senior vp of google announced they specifically want to

01:04:37.000 --> 01:04:41.320
bring their ai stack and development into the pc domain so Android can serve everyone in every

01:04:41.320 --> 01:04:46.440
computing category since they've already been available for smart home and auto devices personal

01:04:46.440 --> 01:04:52.040
computing has been a gap for them blah blah blah blah blah not much more has been revealed about

01:04:52.040 --> 01:04:56.200
their plans at the moment and the latest announcement was more of a tease but it does seem that google

01:04:56.200 --> 01:05:02.440
has been working to improve Android with Linux apps the future for chrome os devices hasn't

01:05:02.440 --> 01:05:06.600
been explicitly covered but google's policy is 10 years of updates so i'm going to hold them to that

01:05:06.600 --> 01:05:12.760
because i just bought a chromebook and Android authority mentioned that GPU acceleration has

01:05:12.760 --> 01:05:17.480
been slyly added to andre's Linux terminal app it doesn't work yet but it does show that they're

01:05:17.480 --> 01:05:22.600
looking to improve performance google stated the end goal is to create an Android ecosystem that

01:05:22.600 --> 01:05:29.160
works seamlessly across devices well good luck google hopefully you don't abandon it

01:05:30.840 --> 01:05:35.960
uh before you minimize that i threw some stuff at the bottom i don't necessarily think i saw

01:05:35.960 --> 01:05:40.440
these in the doc but i think they're super new so i don't i'm not blaming the doc writers to be

01:05:40.440 --> 01:05:48.200
clear um do you know about the new facebook thing no facebook what is it called short chat will

01:05:48.200 --> 01:05:55.880
tell us they're making a new feed that is just a feed of people's like ai generated like mood

01:05:55.880 --> 01:06:08.920
videos it sounds like the dumbest thing in the world uh the saddest part is like super smart

01:06:08.920 --> 01:06:15.000
people work at meta they could be doing anything they could be they could be building the future

01:06:15.320 --> 01:06:24.280
yeah it's called so it's called facebook meta vibes ai okay are you ready to screen share

01:06:24.280 --> 01:06:30.760
ai hold on one sec tech cruncher we'll go with that sure go for it there we go meta launches

01:06:30.760 --> 01:06:37.160
vibes a short form video feed of ai slop and yeah and a move no one asked for a meta is

01:06:37.160 --> 01:06:43.000
introducing vibes a new feed in the meta ai app and on meta dot ai for sharing and creating

01:06:43.000 --> 01:06:48.840
short form ai generated videos that's it who wants this

01:06:52.360 --> 01:06:57.640
why so that you can just aimlessly doom scroll even more

01:06:59.960 --> 01:07:06.840
but it's just like trash i mean like someone a full plane chat was like remember that two

01:07:06.840 --> 01:07:13.960
week period when luke was all excited about ai stuff i am still quite interested in ai stuff

01:07:13.960 --> 01:07:18.680
but you don't want to watch this but like the direction of almost every corporation

01:07:18.680 --> 01:07:26.520
in how they're handling with it is just so uninteresting um like i i think it's called like

01:07:27.560 --> 01:07:34.200
friend dot com or something oh boy oh boy have you heard of that i unboxed it oh

01:07:37.160 --> 01:07:44.120
if you enjoy Linus gets mad about how utterly pointless and wasteful something is

01:07:44.840 --> 01:07:52.520
tune in to ShortCircuit where i unboxed oh no i i literally i had it oh i just closed it oh

01:07:52.520 --> 01:07:59.560
wow did i man i looked at his time it was crazy and clicked it and it was gone i unboxed my friend

01:08:00.520 --> 01:08:01.320
i named it riley

01:08:04.360 --> 01:08:12.040
i prefer the real riley yeah yeah yeah is this old uh it's old the the trailer there is old

01:08:12.040 --> 01:08:17.880
yeah this went viral way back but we they actually shipped us one now okay god i was gonna say

01:08:17.880 --> 01:08:22.280
they did like an ad takeover yeah yeah yeah uh someone they didn't add takeover the new york

01:08:22.280 --> 01:08:28.920
subway bell has actually been wearing it since the ShortCircuit because he was like maybe Linus

01:08:28.920 --> 01:08:35.080
was too mean i should use it a bit more and make sure that it's actually as worthless and pointless

01:08:35.080 --> 01:08:40.040
as he made it out to be and he came he came back to me a few days later and he's like hey

01:08:41.800 --> 01:08:49.080
so it's just as bad as you thought maybe worse yeah it's so bad it's terrifying it's the amount of

01:08:49.080 --> 01:08:56.600
like man there's always the like utopian view of like this will help us do less

01:08:56.600 --> 01:09:04.280
meal garbage work and will will free the common person and allow us to do artistic pursuits

01:09:04.280 --> 01:09:09.560
or there's the late stage capitalism view where it's like it will create meaningless garbage work

01:09:09.560 --> 01:09:16.440
how about how about you scroll infinitely with the hand motion that is addicted through

01:09:16.440 --> 01:09:22.280
just the sloppiest crappiest ai junk ever forever and see what happens

01:09:22.520 --> 01:09:28.760
oh like that's not what i want that's not interesting and i i i i feel like i knew this

01:09:28.760 --> 01:09:34.040
was coming and there is interesting stuff happening in the space oh it's just not this

01:09:34.040 --> 01:09:43.480
and it's also not um what is it called the opening i pulse oh boy i think both of these

01:09:43.480 --> 01:09:48.440
were announced today so i'm not i'm not blaming the uh the doc writing team they are they are new

01:09:48.440 --> 01:09:53.880
no this is not new okay either way um all right i'm on your screen chat gpt pulse what is this now

01:09:54.600 --> 01:10:04.760
jet gpt pulse it essentially um let's see if they say it out loud here to reach your goals yeah

01:10:05.720 --> 01:10:12.760
what does that mean uh so you tell it like goals or like things that you want and it will

01:10:12.920 --> 01:10:21.800
work on it in quotes even when you're not like using it what does that even mean

01:10:25.560 --> 01:10:31.640
i think the thing that they would like you to think is that something like your badminton thing

01:10:31.640 --> 01:10:35.880
when it was like i'll go work on that and then get back to you is that it's going to do that

01:10:35.880 --> 01:10:41.560
oh it'll like churn away on large tasks in the background or something i think that might be

01:10:41.560 --> 01:10:44.760
what they would like you to think i haven't read this whole thing i'm just being honest

01:10:45.400 --> 01:10:49.240
so i might miss parts of it um let's see if they show

01:10:51.320 --> 01:10:55.320
when you're traveling what is your preference this helps us shape somewhere one of kind of

01:10:55.320 --> 01:11:01.880
experiences blah blah blah it'll research something for you what it was even so i think

01:11:01.880 --> 01:11:07.800
there was like a sam altman tweet um so basically they just want you to feed more personal data into

01:11:07.800 --> 01:11:14.600
it um like am i missing something here the thing that i suspect other people are picking up on as

01:11:14.600 --> 01:11:21.560
well is this is almost certainly going to be an ad engine well yeah so they can find like a bunch

01:11:21.560 --> 01:11:26.520
of people that have certain desires and then sell ads against those desires right uh that is like

01:11:27.640 --> 01:11:34.760
for sure what's going on right so basically they just want some time to go sell it here we go

01:11:34.760 --> 01:11:41.080
between when you tell them that i'm interested in traveling and when it gives you a response

01:11:42.280 --> 01:11:45.720
this this part right here oh man

01:11:47.640 --> 01:11:52.840
i perform super well if you tell chat gpt more about what's important to you in regular chat

01:11:52.840 --> 01:11:58.040
you could mention i'd like to visit borah borah someday or my kid is six months old and i'm interested

01:11:58.040 --> 01:12:04.280
in developmental milestones and in the future you might get useful updates also known as to me

01:12:04.760 --> 01:12:12.760
ads ads you might get useful ads in the future um and you know i'm sure they'll use it for other

01:12:12.760 --> 01:12:17.720
things first so that people feel really disarmed about it and then later on they'll just start

01:12:17.720 --> 01:12:24.840
trickling it in a little bit over time i mean elon said that out loud when uh yeah when croc

01:12:25.400 --> 01:12:31.800
fun handyman linked this what fantastic timing nice

01:12:35.640 --> 01:12:39.960
yeah so like i i'm like rather the second i read this i was just like

01:12:42.040 --> 01:12:48.040
if it said you know i'd like to visit borah borah someday you could say that to it and it could

01:12:48.040 --> 01:12:53.480
definitely be helpful immediately there is no reason for it to be helpful in the future

01:12:53.480 --> 01:12:57.080
my kid is six months old i'm interested in developmental milestones it could definitely

01:12:57.080 --> 01:13:02.200
tell you some of those now right now there is no reason that it should wait and tell you

01:13:02.200 --> 01:13:07.400
them later unless there's some product that it could advertise to you potentially at a more

01:13:07.400 --> 01:13:11.800
at a time that it thinks you might be more likely to buy it like if it realizes you're

01:13:11.800 --> 01:13:16.440
online at two in the morning or something when people's people's ability to resist buying things

01:13:16.440 --> 01:13:20.280
is a little bit lower or it'll hit you with it knows your kid six months old today then it knows

01:13:20.280 --> 01:13:26.440
that your kid is two years old in two uh 18 months that's maybe you need this other product

01:13:26.440 --> 01:13:31.640
maybe you need shoes or maybe yeah whatever yeah because giving it a desire does not mean that it

01:13:31.640 --> 01:13:37.000
is only going to attempt to fulfill that one desire cyber excitation says it's like people

01:13:37.000 --> 01:13:41.880
watched walley and thought it was something to aspire to rather than a warning yeah

01:13:46.520 --> 01:13:52.680
oh man awney hikage says and this is a really good point spreading out interactions with

01:13:52.680 --> 01:13:58.520
an app over time also makes it more addictive so it's a jedi mind trick as well i added the jedi

01:13:58.520 --> 01:14:03.160
part that absolutely makes sense it'll you will tell me your desires

01:14:05.880 --> 01:14:13.160
brilliant to see a fab what are you gonna do about it i'm already going oh are we talking

01:14:13.160 --> 01:14:18.360
about that i don't know i wasn't sure if it was a secret maybe not anymore i didn't say which one

01:14:18.360 --> 01:14:22.920
crying out loudly i didn't say which one okay well he's going somewhere fabulous why don't we

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leave it there next week um freaking guy i didn't say which one okay i just don't know if it's a

01:14:31.480 --> 01:14:40.600
secret or not i don't know okay i just like half assume that everything is uh why don't we talk

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also there's a new episode of we have fridays off and Linus is still late why is when late

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i don't think i don't think i was late that time what the heck there was quite a few on times yeah

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there have been a lot of on time yeah because i was the only one who was actually not i'm not i

01:16:01.720 --> 01:16:06.600
was the only one there were other people working the friday afternoon sometimes yeah um we had

01:16:06.600 --> 01:16:12.520
scrapyard wars going so i know that hoffman was often definitely here working on stuff and then

01:16:12.520 --> 01:16:17.240
david got kind of dunked on because we had the chromebook video that we had to shoot together

01:16:17.240 --> 01:16:22.360
and then he was also scrapyard warzing there's Labs people in there's some it people a lot of people

01:16:22.360 --> 01:16:29.160
had fridays off for the latter part of the summer um just as kind of like uh hey wouldn't it be cool

01:16:29.160 --> 01:16:33.480
fridays were off so it's amazing how easy it is for me to be on time for WAN Show when nobody's

01:16:33.480 --> 01:16:37.000
bothering me because i was just sitting in my office working i'm like oh it's time for

01:16:37.000 --> 01:16:43.240
wen show and then i just go to wen show yeah it's uh seriously i'm not gonna claim to be a punctual

01:16:43.240 --> 01:16:49.320
person that you were on time like every one of those days but a big part of my challenge in being

01:16:49.320 --> 01:16:57.000
punctual is external factors yeah both luke and i know this if we're fine with it yeah well i do

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apart anymore it's pretty cool nice all right what else we got uh topics oh dj the creator asks

01:20:42.520 --> 01:20:49.160
are they too close to the ground they are close to the ground um whether you're into that or not

01:20:49.160 --> 01:20:53.160
that's up to you i will say at well in it's very convenient because it means that i don't have to

01:20:53.160 --> 01:21:00.360
have the projector up really high so because i don't have a way to do that yeah um what do you

01:21:00.360 --> 01:21:05.560
want to do next low when views solved what is this yeah let's talk about that

01:21:07.640 --> 01:21:16.760
oh this redditor yevel nad shared a surefire solution for low when viewership

01:21:18.920 --> 01:21:26.440
we just need to do oh come on we just need to look more like this which we can do like this

01:21:27.160 --> 01:21:33.320
why were you looking here look here i i think this is not real time i'm pretty sure it's not real

01:21:33.320 --> 01:21:40.760
time um i mean it wouldn't need to be completely real time i mean we're already like 300 milliseconds

01:21:40.760 --> 01:21:47.640
like this is this is wan 2.2 a funny enough it's called wan this is wan 2.2 animate i think and i

01:21:47.640 --> 01:21:53.320
don't think that's real time oh i don't know a ton about this i mean it money man says yeah

01:21:54.040 --> 01:21:59.000
is it it might be i thought i thought wan only did five seconds not like WAN Show is live

01:21:59.800 --> 01:22:04.520
we could we could do five seconds would be fine yeah but i mean like we could easily have a delay

01:22:04.520 --> 01:22:08.920
and that's it like streamers and then you have to render that like it's trained on five seconds

01:22:08.920 --> 01:22:14.680
oh got it okay don't believe it's live isn't that video more than five seconds because like i think

01:22:14.680 --> 01:22:20.680
so like character replacement has been a thing for like longer yeah yeah yeah anyway the brilliant

01:22:20.680 --> 01:22:27.160
plan is to turn everyone on when into photorealistic ai thirst traps turn everyone on personally

01:22:27.160 --> 01:22:34.280
i think it's a great idea uh great yuzuki posted a handy comparison of face swapping tools

01:22:35.240 --> 01:22:43.000
there we go um got it so uh pricing model subscription 19 a month web based private

01:22:43.000 --> 01:22:49.720
generation uh oh oh boy you know what let's navigate away from that we should i don't i didn't

01:22:49.720 --> 01:22:55.960
see it yeah don't worry about it we should uh we should do we should take pictures of us

01:22:56.760 --> 01:23:05.400
from like our videos or whatever we have both i don't know 10 years ago and just do that so

01:23:05.400 --> 01:23:10.760
it's still us also apparently this is possibly fake because there appears to be a real motion blur

01:23:12.040 --> 01:23:18.600
so they might have just you know staged that either way i have pretty mimicable i have seen

01:23:19.160 --> 01:23:25.640
very very there's crazy ones there's absolutely wild ones like where they're where the software

01:23:25.640 --> 01:23:30.760
like drops for a second and then like goes back up uh and their actual streamers um

01:23:31.960 --> 01:23:36.600
luke didn't you send me a video ages ago about like the webcam one it was like a real time thing

01:23:37.160 --> 01:23:42.360
the guy was sitting at his desk and wasn't actually sitting there but it was him insomniac

01:23:42.360 --> 01:23:49.640
says that it's a fork of face rig apparently real-time manipulation who knows it's just like

01:23:49.640 --> 01:23:57.240
vtuber at that point yep yeah pretty wild man anyway i just thought it was i basically thought it

01:23:57.240 --> 01:24:02.600
was funny so that was it yeah oh man why is everything ai news let's find something else

01:24:02.600 --> 01:24:11.320
oh this is fun okay man i we're gonna talk about the chevy volt again nice because the chevy volt

01:24:11.320 --> 01:24:20.600
is a practical car for cool practical people and i was always frustrated back when i got mine and

01:24:20.600 --> 01:24:25.880
back when i did my video and back when i talked about that car how people just didn't seem to get

01:24:25.880 --> 01:24:32.040
it they didn't seem to get plug-in hybrid vehicles and how they were just like this incredible

01:24:32.680 --> 01:24:38.440
like perfect marriage of the best things about an eevee and the best things about a gas car

01:24:39.160 --> 01:24:45.080
with admittedly some of the downsides of both as well but really the best of both because

01:24:45.080 --> 01:24:50.280
you get the you get the economics of building them because you don't have to fill them with

01:24:50.280 --> 01:24:55.240
all the fuel they will ever need forever you just put a small battery in them that realistically

01:24:55.240 --> 01:25:01.800
covers most of your daily commuting and you get the benefits of a gas car in that if you are going

01:25:01.800 --> 01:25:07.960
somewhere far you just put gas in it and go you don't have to think about range anxiety

01:25:07.960 --> 01:25:14.200
so i did most of my driving on full electric with that car i'd fill up the gas tank freaking like

01:25:14.200 --> 01:25:18.920
i don't know once every four to eight weeks or something like that like i hardly used gas

01:25:18.920 --> 01:25:26.840
and it was awesome and i was i was shocked when i talked to a guy who worked at the chevy dealer

01:25:26.840 --> 01:25:31.560
who was like yeah i had a guy trade one in who literally like didn't even realize that you had

01:25:31.560 --> 01:25:36.520
to plug it in and that just it just blew me away and it was a super efficient gas-powered vehicle

01:25:36.520 --> 01:25:39.800
it's one of the most unfortunate things with automotives that i've

01:25:40.840 --> 01:25:46.280
been paying attention automotives for because hybrids came out first and then plug-in hybrids

01:25:46.280 --> 01:25:50.920
came out after and people had no idea what it was they didn't understand it we to we you thing

01:25:50.920 --> 01:25:57.960
yeah it basically happened but with cars so buddy just drove his volt for years and never

01:25:57.960 --> 01:26:03.560
plugged it in once yeah which is not the end of the world because because it doesn't have a super

01:26:03.560 --> 01:26:09.320
heavy battery in it it's still a super efficient gas vehicle but like oh my god if you just plugged

01:26:09.320 --> 01:26:15.560
it into your garage every night you'd save a flipping fortune living here in bc where electricity is

01:26:15.560 --> 01:26:26.200
so cheap very cheap here anyway toyota came across this same unsettling piece of information

01:26:26.200 --> 01:26:32.520
that people are not charging their plug plug-in hybrid electric vehicles and they came up with

01:26:32.600 --> 01:26:39.320
the charge minder app they're gonna gamify it it delivers push notifications at key moments

01:26:39.320 --> 01:26:45.240
like when you arrive at home or other user-defined charging places these notifications apparently

01:26:45.240 --> 01:26:51.080
increased charging by 10 compared to a control group they also increased driver satisfaction

01:26:51.080 --> 01:26:59.240
by 16 percentage points because da who wouldn't be satisfied by driving for cheaper a lot of the

01:26:59.240 --> 01:27:04.360
time yeah the gamification aspect includes positive reinforcement like attaining charging

01:27:04.360 --> 01:27:11.640
streaks and charging habit summaries you know what they should our discussion question here is

01:27:12.200 --> 01:27:17.800
plug-in hybrid electric vehicles cost thousands of dollars more than regular hybrid cars if people

01:27:17.800 --> 01:27:22.040
aren't buying them or if people aren't plugging them in why are they spending the extra money

01:27:22.920 --> 01:27:29.640
and then this is from nick ploof he goes i paid extra for prime for a prime so not amazon prime

01:27:29.640 --> 01:27:37.240
for a toyota prime because i can plug it in yeah yes that's because you are a smart person who owns

01:27:37.240 --> 01:27:45.320
a display allegedly allegedly allegedly they're not going to watch this anyways i'll just say it

01:27:45.320 --> 01:27:50.920
i think there's ways that they could probably end up making money off this as well uh what's

01:27:50.920 --> 01:27:58.680
wrong with you yeah shut up luke they're not gonna listen to this is fine um but they could they

01:27:58.680 --> 01:28:01.560
could see the places that you're plugging in that aren't at home

01:28:06.280 --> 01:28:16.520
stop talking yeah sounds good uh next topic spam gpt i don't think we can get away they're all ai

01:28:16.680 --> 01:28:22.120
topics let's do spam gpt uh okay they're not all ai topics but yeah we'll do this one first hit me

01:28:22.120 --> 01:28:27.720
spam gpt is a new ai powered email attack automation kit being found on people are mad

01:28:28.760 --> 01:28:35.400
being found on underground forums and the dark web in a blog posted earlier this month cyber

01:28:35.400 --> 01:28:43.160
security firm veronis calls spam gpt an enterprise marketing platform weaponized for spam and says

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what used to require a team of skilled developers can now be accomplished by a single bad actor

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with a five thousand dollar toolkit and it's spam as a service which i would kind of hope for

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considering its name uh the platform enables attackers to design schedule and monitor large

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scale spam and phishing operations with minimal technical expertise spam gpt offers a straightforward

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GUI and detailed documentation and incorporates generative ai to create convincing spam campaigns

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tutorials teach users smtp cracking mastery and techniques for spoofing trusted brands

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and domains spam gpt engineers bulk email to slip through spam filters and land in your inbox

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which honestly kind of makes me want to buy it because we have trouble with that sometimes

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and we're sending legitimate email it's like if the if the bad actors can figure it out

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why am i getting gated anyway carry on by by combining these features with campaign analytics

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isn't this is this scary or what it's actually wild it's mail chimp but for like ne'er do wells

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the funny thing is because it's a i'm assuming it seems like it's a one-time payment of five

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thousand dollars this might be just a cheaper way for people to get like ad campaign management

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because the multi just terrible ideas today oh my god the multi user subscription model

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a lot of these platforms run on is really expensive and really annoying so if it is just a one-time

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buy it might be a pretty attractive option for like legitimate this is the worst timeline ever

01:30:25.160 --> 01:30:32.120
ah anyways okay someone's gonna someone's gonna buy it and repackage it is like a

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i'm messaging conran right now it's gonna pay the bills baby yeah let's go uh keep the lights on

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with spam with with with legitimate marketing activities yes um based on your chat chat gpt

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history all right by combining these features with campaign analytics spam gpt offers everything

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you defined in a legitimate marketing crm this is what i was talking about before but explicitly

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designed for malicious use domain owners are advertised to strengthen email authentication

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with d mark cool spf there are big groups that don't have things like this running and dkm to

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prevent spoofed domains and to deploy ai powered tools to detect phishing emails generated by

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large language models oof uh another more different spam gpt is a set of python scripts

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created by github uber github user stavros stavros chorokithakis hopefully that was

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pretty all right uh this spam gpt uses sorry this spam gpt uses chat gpt to send realistic

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replies to spam emails wasting as much of the time as possible by playing along and pretending to do

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whatever the scammer is asking for while insisting that any problems are on the scammer side oh my

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god stavros commented on hacker news saying it was a bit of fun until i realized that most of the

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replied most of the replies for the spammers were ai as well oh so we were just automatically

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spamming each other while open ai made money i stopped using it that's makes so much sense and

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is like for sure true and real um what is it dead internet theory yeah like it's just bots talking

01:32:31.000 --> 01:32:36.360
to bots i mean it is actually just a dead internet theory it's just like real to a certain degree

01:32:36.360 --> 01:32:42.200
like there there is an incredible amount of just bot traffic these days obviously there's also like

01:32:42.920 --> 01:32:49.080
a never seen before percentage of the world that is online and like actually on the internet yes

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but there is also such a rate of increasing levels of bot traffic that it's like the chance

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that what you're running into is bot traffic is actually incredibly high

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and this is great gilmore d and float plain chat says it's like two furbies just babbling at each

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other discussion question is direct human interaction with the internet dying yeah

01:33:09.880 --> 01:33:16.360
yeah i think we can just move on in a lot of ways it really is what should Linus ask Linus

01:33:16.360 --> 01:33:21.240
elijah posted a thread on the LTT subreddit where you can submit questions for our upcoming collab

01:33:21.240 --> 01:33:27.800
with Linus torvolds don't miss it now is a great opportunity for you to go post on there or upvote

01:33:27.880 --> 01:33:32.040
anything that you would like to see us discuss with him there's no guarantees that we will get

01:33:32.040 --> 01:33:39.720
to everything but it could be some nice jumping off points for conversations with the og tech

01:33:39.720 --> 01:33:45.480
Linus when he comes up here for our hopefully if nothing else goes wrong there will be no hard

01:33:45.480 --> 01:33:50.840
feelings if anything you know does come up but we seem to be as far as i can tell confirmed

01:33:50.840 --> 01:33:58.280
i'm so excited um yeah so um i forget where i was going with that the point is

01:33:58.280 --> 01:34:02.680
i think it's happening i hope it's happening i'm pretty sure it's happening and if it does

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what do you want us to talk to him about that was it just want to make sure people are aware

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and then do a little sort of kind of chat with you guys about google messages google's messaging app

01:34:17.160 --> 01:34:25.320
the default you use a pixel right so your sms app can you think of another modern text communication

01:34:25.320 --> 01:34:31.240
platform other than google messages i know where you're going that doesn't support f***ing cloud

01:34:31.240 --> 01:34:40.360
sync yep that's where he's going no it's honestly going on it's honestly one of the only default

01:34:40.360 --> 01:34:46.040
apps that i feel like you like need to get something else for like it's wild to me and it's

01:34:46.040 --> 01:34:55.160
it's interesting like how much further ahead it feels like i messages oh dude look when apple

01:34:55.160 --> 01:35:00.520
people tell me yeah i use an iphone because like i message is so great i i roll my eyes because i

01:35:00.520 --> 01:35:07.560
message is nothing special but if the only other thing they'd ever tried was google messages then

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dang i get it i can see why they would think that i messages god's gift to people who send messages

01:35:15.240 --> 01:35:26.120
on their phone because wow is google messages it like i just i hadn't tried to migrate text messages

01:35:26.120 --> 01:35:32.760
in a while because i was using my note nine for a super long time and then i only recently started

01:35:32.760 --> 01:35:39.720
like like switching phones a lot again and so on my note and on my folds i was using samsung's

01:35:39.720 --> 01:35:44.440
messages app which also i think actually has synchronous don't quote me on that i don't know

01:35:44.440 --> 01:35:49.640
how good the synchronization is on samsung's but the point is that i used like an import wizard

01:35:51.960 --> 01:35:57.400
and so it it wasn't really a problem until i started swapping between google phones like the

01:35:57.400 --> 01:36:01.560
pixel and graphino s and there was uh there was something else that i was i think it was a one

01:36:01.560 --> 01:36:07.000
plus i was using for a little while and i kind of went oh crap i'm like losing track of a lot of my

01:36:07.000 --> 01:36:12.520
sms messages and it's not always convenient for me to completely migrate because i might have

01:36:12.520 --> 01:36:19.080
two-factor authentication or like the unify identity apps so that i have you know door access

01:36:19.080 --> 01:36:23.800
at smashchamps or whatever else i might still have that on my on my secondary phone or i might be

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using a phone for a little while knowing that i'm going to go back to my other one and the only way

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to migrate back is to wipe the original one and then do the full migration and it just kind of

01:36:33.640 --> 01:36:42.200
struck me i was like yeah how the heck does this not have closet literally google that you're you're

01:36:42.280 --> 01:36:46.440
that's the like the whole thing you're trying to sell me go to drive it's like google one and

01:36:46.440 --> 01:36:53.880
google drive and like all this stuff and it's been especially inconvenient so i still am not switched

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over to the uh the iphone air even though i'm trying to because apple's migration also is broken

01:37:03.240 --> 01:37:10.200
oh seriously check this out i usually hear very good things about okay because i've got an entire

01:37:10.200 --> 01:37:16.520
page of notes on my next i switched to apple about what an absolute cluster fuck the migration

01:37:16.520 --> 01:37:21.640
process i have an idea for for an alinas i switched by the way oh really i don't know if you're

01:37:21.640 --> 01:37:28.200
gonna like it but i'll pitch it when we're done here uh hold on collections on this device

01:37:29.240 --> 01:37:33.400
screenshot why are that what the hell is this um

01:37:33.560 --> 01:37:43.000
um where did i sync this to you know what these are pictures i took on my old iphone 12 pro

01:37:43.720 --> 01:37:53.480
because i couldn't um because both my pixel and my iphone were linked with a cable and displaying

01:37:53.480 --> 01:37:59.880
various states of sure of the transfer yeah so in order to document this i i yeah i had to i had

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to put it somewhere else so where where did i put it i don't i don't think i put it on google drive

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bloody hell where did i put it oh you know what i think i can find it basically out of

01:38:11.080 --> 01:38:18.600
like 15 000 text messages or something it managed to transfer to and this is one of the things that

01:38:18.600 --> 01:38:27.240
i often go off about with apple's software design and the reason for it is that as someone who uses

01:38:27.240 --> 01:38:32.280
a lot of devices and switches devices a lot and uses a lot of different kinds of apps and needs

01:38:32.280 --> 01:38:39.640
interoperability and and has high expectations for a trillion yes with a t dollar company

01:38:40.920 --> 01:38:51.480
i run up against it a lot is apple's design philosophy is it just works the problem is that

01:38:51.480 --> 01:39:00.520
when it doesn't it's just works it just works is baked in as an expectation so when it doesn't

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they often do not have the safeguards and backup plans that are baked into other platforms

01:39:09.640 --> 01:39:16.360
so it's like probably one of the best examples i have of this is when apple removed the restart

01:39:17.080 --> 01:39:23.720
function yeah this they used to have two sliders one to shut down one to restart

01:39:24.840 --> 01:39:29.400
but it's an iphone it should never need to be turned off and turned back on

01:39:30.520 --> 01:39:36.600
and i really i don't know this for sure but there is literally no other reason that i can think of

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why they would have removed it because it was and continues to be a very useful tool in fact

01:39:43.960 --> 01:39:47.720
i contacted apple support and it's one of the first things they asked me to do

01:39:47.720 --> 01:39:54.280
was restart my iphone so just give me the f***ing button to restart it

01:39:55.400 --> 01:40:01.400
why do i have to touch it twice i don't understand another one was uh this was back

01:40:01.400 --> 01:40:05.000
with my oldness is like 10 years ago so i don't even know if this is still true but when i did

01:40:05.000 --> 01:40:10.840
my i switched on mac and finder didn't have a refresh well it should just refresh

01:40:11.800 --> 01:40:17.320
right but when it doesn't what do i do well you go f*** yourself is what you do

01:40:17.880 --> 01:40:24.120
that's your only real option so in this case with the transfer tool so i'm using the uh what's

01:40:24.120 --> 01:40:30.360
it what's it called it's an Android app move to iOS i'm using the move to iOS app from from apple and

01:40:35.240 --> 01:40:38.920
hold on a second yeah here we go i'm just gonna make sure that i'm not just

01:40:38.920 --> 01:40:44.040
an idiot and i'm using like a third party tool or something because i'm pretty darn sure that it's

01:40:44.040 --> 01:40:50.760
first party apple but i'd hate to accidentally upset apple people again by if i'm actually

01:40:50.760 --> 01:40:54.840
wrong i don't mind upsetting them if uh if what i'm saying is accurate yes it's just developed by

01:40:54.840 --> 01:41:03.160
apple so i'm using the move to iOS app and once again in classic apple fashion when only two of

01:41:03.160 --> 01:41:10.360
your 15 000 text messages transfer there's no retry button oh there's no there's no

01:41:11.320 --> 01:41:17.560
do it again button oh that's annoying so the instructions from apple support who were

01:41:17.560 --> 01:41:22.760
spectacularly unhelpful start from beginning again i'm assuming was to re-wipe the iphone and

01:41:22.760 --> 01:41:29.000
try again yeah and i said well okay what are we changing this time that would result in a different

01:41:29.000 --> 01:41:34.280
outcome nothing and they go oh well your internet might have caused an issue and i said i told you

01:41:34.280 --> 01:41:40.840
already earlier in this chat that i was connected with a cable what makes you think that my internet

01:41:41.400 --> 01:41:47.400
played a role in the failure of this what are we changing what are we doing differently because

01:41:47.400 --> 01:41:53.160
what happened was my whatsapp messages did transfer so i'm no longer signed into whatsapp

01:41:53.720 --> 01:42:01.400
and i could do a whole separate rant about whatsapp and how that too is a modern communications

01:42:01.400 --> 01:42:09.080
platform that for whatever reason does allow multiple sign-in across devices but not two phones

01:42:09.800 --> 01:42:17.000
no never two phones so i have to transfer and you have to transfer whatsapp when you are doing

01:42:17.080 --> 01:42:23.880
like the new phone setup too it drives me absolutely bananas so my whatsapp did transfer

01:42:23.880 --> 01:42:29.320
over to the iphone but my text messages are here and i've had some bad experiences with whatsapp

01:42:29.320 --> 01:42:36.280
with whatsapp's backup and restore even when i explicitly click backup verify that it's

01:42:36.280 --> 01:42:42.280
backed up in the last one minute and then i restore it i'll be missing like a week of messages

01:42:42.280 --> 01:42:46.680
sometimes and it's really frustrating i don't like that i don't like not having my communication

01:42:46.680 --> 01:42:53.080
history and like it's it's legitimately caused problems for me sometimes you remember that

01:42:53.080 --> 01:42:58.600
stupid scandal where someone accused me of something and i didn't have my wechat history

01:42:58.600 --> 01:43:02.120
because i had like switched phones and didn't realize that it was like not cloud synced in any

01:43:02.120 --> 01:43:09.560
way it ended up being fine because they were caught in like multiple other lies that basically

01:43:09.560 --> 01:43:15.720
were like yeah just dismissing everything basically yeah so that was really useful of them to just

01:43:15.720 --> 01:43:21.000
like completely fuck themselves like that um but i didn't i didn't have the dms which was

01:43:21.000 --> 01:43:27.560
super inconvenient for me i don't like losing dms um so i am in a situation right now where my iphone

01:43:27.560 --> 01:43:34.120
contains my whatsapp messages and my Android phone contains my sms messages there's no cloud sync

01:43:34.120 --> 01:43:40.280
for sms they're asking me to wipe the iphone which i don't know maybe i will get all my whatsapp

01:43:40.440 --> 01:43:46.120
history back maybe all of the messages will transfer this time the whole experience just sucks

01:43:49.320 --> 01:43:56.040
so google so in order google cloud sync for messages what the fuck is wrong with you it's

01:43:56.040 --> 01:44:00.600
another opportunity for you to sell more cloud storage like it should be pretty easy like now

01:44:00.600 --> 01:44:05.160
like just do it tomorrow yeah what are you waiting for it should be pretty easy number two

01:44:05.400 --> 01:44:13.800
what's up hey just let me sign in across multiple devices like you know basically everything

01:44:14.520 --> 01:44:20.840
like what are you doing number three apple retry buttons you don't need to be allergic to them

01:44:21.400 --> 01:44:28.040
it's okay it's a lot better than starting the whole process all over again i understand i understand

01:44:28.040 --> 01:44:33.880
that you don't want it cluttering up your beautiful software whatever the philosophy leads to you not

01:44:33.880 --> 01:44:39.000
having them i i i no i don't understand i think it's stupid but it doesn't matter the point is you

01:44:39.000 --> 01:44:45.320
can keep doing that how about only show me the retry button if i need it that way it doesn't have

01:44:45.320 --> 01:44:51.080
to be there like by default but you don't mind showing me a little some part of it failed yeah you

01:44:51.080 --> 01:44:55.960
don't mind showing me a triangle with an exclamation mark i backed up two of your messages thanks for

01:44:56.120 --> 01:45:03.400
f***ing nothing if i click that it should let me retry thank you that's all i'm asking for

01:45:06.920 --> 01:45:14.040
one whatsapp account now across multiple phones where where uh linked from handyman is that a

01:45:14.040 --> 01:45:20.440
thing how did why did it sign me out then 2023 last year we introduced the ability for users

01:45:20.520 --> 01:45:23.960
globally message seamlessly across all the devices while making this seem lower present

01:45:23.960 --> 01:45:28.840
oh today we're improving our wealthy device offering by introducing the ability to use the

01:45:28.840 --> 01:45:33.560
same whatsapp account on multiple phones hold on i didn't even i didn't even try to sign back in here

01:45:33.560 --> 01:45:37.960
so recently i ran into a really stupid thing with whatsapp where i was like trying to use a qr

01:45:37.960 --> 01:45:42.600
code to do the thing and i couldn't scan the qr code and then it just didn't transfer properly

01:45:42.600 --> 01:45:47.880
and then i was really annoyed linking phones as companion devices makes messaging easier

01:45:47.880 --> 01:45:51.960
now you can switch between phones without signing out and pick up your chats where you left off

01:45:52.840 --> 01:45:59.080
so okay okay i know i think this might be i think this might be solved if you just signed back in

01:45:59.080 --> 01:46:02.280
i suspect you're signed out on your other one because you have to you have to link it as a

01:46:02.280 --> 01:46:09.960
companion device okay uh well either way i'm way happier with this than things were before

01:46:09.960 --> 01:46:14.600
like i was a man i was super annoyed when i ran into that issue where it made me do the qr

01:46:14.680 --> 01:46:19.560
code thing to transfer them and then it like i couldn't scan it because the camera on the phone

01:46:19.560 --> 01:46:25.640
that i was switching to or from i can't remember was like too crappy to scan the qr code and couldn't

01:46:25.640 --> 01:46:30.280
handle the because it it turns it up to maximum brightness so there was a second before it would

01:46:30.280 --> 01:46:36.040
turn to maximum brightness where it would like be trying to scan it and it then it would like start

01:46:36.040 --> 01:46:40.360
to focus properly and then it would crank to maximum brightness and then it wouldn't be able to do it

01:46:40.360 --> 01:46:47.000
and then it ended up not working and then i ended up losing a bunch of my messages so freaking

01:46:47.000 --> 01:46:51.000
frustrating i think you're getting progressively less and less excited for the idea that i might

01:46:51.000 --> 01:46:57.080
have for you oh what is it signal or like what what are we talking about no you do these i switched

01:46:57.080 --> 01:47:04.280
things yeah but the feedback every time is that you're not like really an apple user so by not

01:47:04.280 --> 01:47:12.440
being you know marinated in the the apple sauce you you don't it means the feedback from outside

01:47:12.440 --> 01:47:19.640
parties yes yeah not my feedback no you you you don't have i am an apple user i just don't use

01:47:19.640 --> 01:47:25.160
enough apple for apples liking i use these every day these are twos by the way

01:47:25.400 --> 01:47:34.040
i use yeah i have my own rant about the air pod force but um

01:47:35.640 --> 01:47:44.200
so i'm not in the sauce enough what if what if okay you did a year a year and what if what if

01:47:44.840 --> 01:47:53.800
what if what if maybe it wasn't even just an iphone like you want me to go full mac for a year

01:47:53.800 --> 01:47:59.240
i think you could do everything except a desktop and i think that would be fair because i think

01:48:00.040 --> 01:48:05.080
a lot of mac people probably aren't into the whole dedicated desktop thing anyways

01:48:06.840 --> 01:48:13.560
and if they had one it might be for for games and i think you could say like i'm i'm a streamer boy

01:48:13.560 --> 01:48:18.760
therefore i need a Windows desktop and you can have everything else and that is like a thing that

01:48:18.760 --> 01:48:26.280
is a mac user archetype that is common i think that's fine so what if you did iphone watch

01:48:27.000 --> 01:48:33.320
air pods ipad macbook for a year the hell would it do with an ipad i don't know just

01:48:33.320 --> 01:48:39.400
giving you options i can't figure out what anybody does with an ipad i don't fully watch

01:48:39.400 --> 01:48:46.200
netflix i think sure i mean you know what that's valid i just for me it's like it's this no man's

01:48:46.200 --> 01:48:52.120
land device like it's big and cumbersome enough that if i'm going to use it i might as well just

01:48:52.120 --> 01:48:58.840
get a laptop and it's it's not even that limited anymore like it used to be really limited but

01:48:58.840 --> 01:49:04.360
just like most of what i would need to do part of the idea why already on my phone so we're saying

01:49:04.360 --> 01:49:09.400
ipad mini at that point why not just use your phone i don't know part of the reason why i included

01:49:09.400 --> 01:49:15.720
in there was because then you're like fully in the ecosystem right the laptop can count as any form

01:49:15.720 --> 01:49:21.160
of computer and then you have all the other apple things basically i don't think i missed anything

01:49:21.160 --> 01:49:32.200
so yeah you are you are deep in the in the walled garden i will think about it all right i'll think

01:49:32.200 --> 01:49:38.360
about it i just could do update videos along the way i like i like just be you know what it's like

01:49:38.360 --> 01:49:42.440
at least four videos out there i haven't even i don't even think i'll be able to because all the

01:49:42.440 --> 01:49:49.560
updates i did a switch to mac not that long ago and after the first like a week there's just there

01:49:49.560 --> 01:49:55.880
was stuff that was annoying but mostly it wasn't impeding my ability to get work done it was just

01:49:55.880 --> 01:50:00.280
i don't want it i want it to not impede your ability to get work done but that's the thing is i don't

01:50:00.280 --> 01:50:04.120
think i'm going to be able to do updates for a year because within a week of using any of those

01:50:04.120 --> 01:50:10.280
devices i'll be able to use them there will just be things that i don't like and some of it is just

01:50:10.280 --> 01:50:16.520
philosophical differences that i have with apple like stuff like the not having a retry

01:50:17.880 --> 01:50:24.920
i don't i don't like that i don't agree with that and no amount of no amount of me using it

01:50:24.920 --> 01:50:30.680
is going to change that fundamentally i disagree with the assumption that something is going to

01:50:30.680 --> 01:50:37.880
work and not having a failback i disagree with that because i have lived in the real world for

01:50:37.880 --> 01:50:44.360
long enough that i know that it doesn't work like that even for your product specifically apple

01:50:44.360 --> 01:50:49.560
it just doesn't it doesn't work like that and i do have my i do have my picture up so i'm just

01:50:49.560 --> 01:50:55.240
going to try to find the the right one here okay so yeah there's the very okay so my first picture

01:50:55.240 --> 01:51:04.360
i took was at the top of the stairs of the code on the iphone um and my move to iOS app not picking

01:51:04.360 --> 01:51:11.800
it up even though they are both on the same wi-fi okay so that didn't work so i went and got a cable

01:51:13.160 --> 01:51:20.200
oh that's a video just of the same thing uh okay that's the same thing hold on a second then i got

01:51:20.200 --> 01:51:23.640
a picture because you know i never know if i'll need these pictures for the video so then i got a

01:51:23.640 --> 01:51:30.360
picture of it transferring so it started transferring cable yeah lttstore.com soon soon the cables are

01:51:30.360 --> 01:51:38.840
coming dude i'm so excited they're awesome okay then i got a video of that apparently just trying

01:51:38.840 --> 01:51:42.760
to be thorough i'm trying to be thorough you know so our editors have stuff to cut away too then the

01:51:42.760 --> 01:51:50.120
next one i got um i think i it had an eta oh no here we go transfer complete transfer complete my ass

01:51:52.360 --> 01:52:00.040
so uh here why don't i send this to Dan i think i'm signed into teams here uh who knows am i signed

01:52:00.040 --> 01:52:07.000
into teams uh oh my god this is so laggy make sure that you click remember me and then it won't

01:52:07.000 --> 01:52:17.640
happen again yeah sure oh this is so this is so laggy i'm dying oh my god we can't both antagonize

01:52:17.640 --> 01:52:25.880
him Dan or you don't want to tag team i'm okay oh that's a weird way to put that oh oh wait it's

01:52:25.880 --> 01:52:31.720
not after dark cat never mind keep your pants on jeez you guys okay i'll send this to Dan

01:52:31.720 --> 01:52:37.080
so this is hilarious if i didn't pay close attention i could easily think Dan do you

01:52:37.080 --> 01:52:41.480
want to throw that up there uh sure it's a gi c so i might have to do something fun with

01:52:44.520 --> 01:52:51.880
yeah i'm gonna have to like pre-convert that sorry serenity now so i could easily easily

01:52:51.960 --> 01:52:59.160
miss this because on the Android side again this is in apple software apple ink made this move to

01:52:59.160 --> 01:53:07.000
iOS app on the on the Android side it says everything's great successfully transferred

01:53:07.720 --> 01:53:14.760
and then you notice oh hold on a second there's little yellow exclamation marks everything is

01:53:14.760 --> 01:53:22.040
not okay on the iOS side and it's not just a little bit not okay it's brutally not okay

01:53:22.840 --> 01:53:27.240
Dan how close are you because that that was all the stalling i had uh yeah i'm good there you go

01:53:27.240 --> 01:53:36.120
nice there it is so i had to click into this so i had to click into this so if i have to click

01:53:36.120 --> 01:53:40.840
into it just give me a retry button they're still connected oh this was another funny thing

01:53:40.840 --> 01:53:45.400
so both of them had a message on them warning me to keep them connected to power while the transfer

01:53:45.400 --> 01:53:52.120
was running how the f*** am i supposed to do that the phones are plugged into each other yet numpties

01:53:52.120 --> 01:54:01.400
it knows i'm using a cable uh magsafe okay yes got him got him i could have two wireless chargers

01:54:01.880 --> 01:54:08.680
one for each phone but like come on you know like come on man

01:54:12.760 --> 01:54:15.960
in fairness to me luke that is in my notes

01:54:18.600 --> 01:54:26.200
i did think of it but that is a spectacularly stupid solution sure yeah dang that's great

01:54:26.200 --> 01:54:31.560
solved it by connecting a cable yes technically having two wireless charging pads next to each

01:54:31.560 --> 01:54:37.320
other while they're plugged in would be an option but who realistically has a setup like that yeah

01:54:39.320 --> 01:54:41.960
i am aware that it could be done

01:54:43.960 --> 01:54:52.840
but that is so obtuse so it's so frustrating and i'm clearly not the only one upset about it

01:54:52.840 --> 01:54:58.520
i found this on discussions.apple.com this has uh hold on a second let me check

01:54:59.560 --> 01:55:09.560
move to iOS app transfer error solutions this was started uh let me see in 2021

01:55:10.360 --> 01:55:21.560
this has been a problem for four years at least the me twos on this are 1664 of people being like

01:55:21.560 --> 01:55:30.600
yep me too and there doesn't seem to be any real solution apple's tech support was so useless

01:55:31.160 --> 01:55:39.160
like so useless i talked to one i asked to be escalated they it just unceremoniously on the hour

01:55:39.160 --> 01:55:43.080
transferred me to someone new who hadn't read my case i guess their shift was just over and they were

01:55:43.080 --> 01:55:49.160
like see ya nice then i asked them to be transferred to a level two tech they said hey level two is

01:55:49.160 --> 01:55:53.800
closed right now because it was late at night can i schedule a call back they called me back

01:55:53.800 --> 01:55:59.720
the next morning i was talking to level f***ing one again nice that's good i like that like i just

01:56:02.600 --> 01:56:06.600
i get it apple's your favorite company if your customers are so upset from dealing with your

01:56:06.600 --> 01:56:12.920
customer support that they hang up and stop trying on your cheapest level then you save money

01:56:14.200 --> 01:56:18.120
on your more expensive level of support yeah so i get that you love the taste of their dick or

01:56:18.120 --> 01:56:25.480
whatever but we should ask more from trillion dollar companies the number of people that are mad at me

01:56:25.480 --> 01:56:31.400
for being mad why just get tips that they removed the cable from the airpods pro 3s that they no

01:56:31.400 --> 01:56:35.720
longer ship it with a cable that they have slowly should really have a cable that they should slowly

01:56:35.720 --> 01:56:39.560
that they've slowly whittled down the number of included accessories in their products

01:56:40.840 --> 01:56:46.120
is mind blowing to me like why would you ask them that to include a cable i i don't know why

01:56:46.120 --> 01:56:53.560
would i ask anyone to include a cable with their product i'm the i'm the asshole like i just i

01:56:53.560 --> 01:57:00.200
can't really i can't really wrap my brain around that i saw this great picture um it's like what was

01:57:00.200 --> 01:57:08.520
lost uh iphone accessories comparison hold on let me see if i can let me see if i can find it uh

01:57:08.520 --> 01:57:14.280
someone posted this great picture and it was like it was only like four or five years ago

01:57:14.280 --> 01:57:20.040
that they included like a lightning to three and a half millimeter adapter they had they had like

01:57:20.040 --> 01:57:25.480
headphones they had stickers they had a wall wart they had a cable apple stickers were on like

01:57:25.480 --> 01:57:31.160
everything uh you know what i think it was on i think it was on reddit i'm gonna append reddit

01:57:31.160 --> 01:57:36.840
to my search and no i can't find it if anyone from chat has the link i think it was on our slash

01:57:36.840 --> 01:57:45.560
all the other day uh but it was it was it's it's crazy how we've just accepted them and look if

01:57:45.560 --> 01:57:53.400
they lowered the price totally different situation if but it's just a cable so if i even remotely

01:57:53.400 --> 01:58:00.200
believed that these choices had anything to do with environmental impact different situation

01:58:01.000 --> 01:58:10.040
i don't buy it i'm sorry but i just don't buy it apple does so much that with intent

01:58:11.400 --> 01:58:18.040
creates additional waste in the world they do a lot well as well like i think the new uh the iphone

01:58:18.040 --> 01:58:24.280
errors titanium chassis is like a significant percentage of of remanufactured titanium which

01:58:24.280 --> 01:58:31.400
is super cool and that is really good but they also do so much to create additional waste that i just

01:58:32.200 --> 01:58:35.560
i can't take it seriously i don't buy it if someone like ferrophone said hey we're not

01:58:35.560 --> 01:58:40.600
including a charger in the box because we felt that it was unnecessary you can add on a charger

01:58:40.600 --> 01:58:45.560
to your order for this very reasonable cost totally different conversation how much does

01:58:45.560 --> 01:58:54.280
apple charge for a usb-c cable 30 dollars is my guess okay let's find for the shortest one

01:58:55.400 --> 01:58:59.240
charging essentials you can't call something essential and then not included in the package

01:59:00.920 --> 01:59:04.840
20 hold on is this cad though that's canadian so 25 canadian dollars

01:59:05.400 --> 01:59:16.680
for this like i was pretty close basic basic cables this even usb-3 usb-2 nice 25 canadian

01:59:16.680 --> 01:59:29.720
dollars nice let's go usb-2 on this one too but it's two meter so that's something for 35 canadian

01:59:29.720 --> 01:59:34.520
dollars the beats one is cheaper and longer i don't even know why they bothered to acquire beats

01:59:34.520 --> 01:59:40.040
dude and braided they were acquiring a brand and then they stole the sound signature it's like

01:59:41.080 --> 01:59:46.840
you took the least valuable thing about beats although i have heard dms is literally sitting

01:59:46.840 --> 01:59:53.160
there going like this right now i will acknowledge i will acknowledge that some of the later beats

01:59:53.160 --> 02:00:00.440
headphones actually were somewhat decent but did you ever listen to the first generation beats by

02:00:00.440 --> 02:00:09.160
dray i have two things sure hit me you'll probably enjoy and hate both of them one uh i went through

02:00:09.160 --> 02:00:14.840
and looked at all of the beats measurements i have most of them are less v-shaped than the air pods

02:00:14.840 --> 02:00:21.400
pro 3 the other thing is apparently according to reddit so many people are returning air pods

02:00:21.400 --> 02:00:29.400
pro 3s that they're offering some people partial refunds just to keep them so there's that i don't

02:00:29.400 --> 02:00:37.240
know i think you're too mad about it oh yeah i mean look clout chaser is going to clout chase

02:00:37.240 --> 02:00:42.360
is all i really have to say about that at this point like it seemed honestly i watched it you

02:00:42.360 --> 02:00:47.400
didn't seem that upset i'm like i've seen him way more mad at stuff i don't know what people are

02:00:47.400 --> 02:00:54.600
freaking out about i think it just seemed like a really good formula for for raising your own

02:00:54.600 --> 02:01:01.560
profile and virtue signaling your own integrity or whatever to attack me for a while like that was

02:01:01.560 --> 02:01:08.680
kind of trendy yeah sure and i think that some people haven't got the memo that like it's not as

02:01:08.680 --> 02:01:15.720
much anymore not as much anymore i think there's i think there's a group that you know is still

02:01:15.720 --> 02:01:24.920
really mad sure um about the completely worthless water cooling concept that some company had that

02:01:24.920 --> 02:01:31.480
i said wouldn't work and it didn't work um and i there were things about it that i didn't handle

02:01:31.480 --> 02:01:35.720
well admittedly there were things about it that were not handled well that were completely out of

02:01:35.720 --> 02:01:42.600
my control um and didn't go well but you know whatever there's a certain number of people

02:01:42.600 --> 02:01:47.800
that are still extremely mad about that and then there's like everyone else who either never cared

02:01:47.800 --> 02:01:55.160
or has just oh my god moved on at this point um and so the whole just attack Linus for saying a thing

02:01:55.160 --> 02:02:04.200
that is in this case objectively true i don't know sure good luck with that good plan i'll all you do

02:02:04.200 --> 02:02:09.560
is harm your own credibility at that point i think which is kind of sad because i would like to see

02:02:10.520 --> 02:02:17.160
i'd like to see the tech media space and the tech youtuber space be more unified i'd like to see us

02:02:17.160 --> 02:02:23.800
working together for the benefit of the consumer i would like to see us working towards holding

02:02:23.800 --> 02:02:30.520
companies accountable maybe that's just because i don't personally like the taste of apples

02:02:31.400 --> 02:02:40.280
i prefer oranges maybe it's an acquired taste might be maybe i just need to suck it more maybe

02:02:40.280 --> 02:02:47.480
you just brush your teeth you know i have a toothbrush right here maybe maybe i just need

02:02:47.480 --> 02:02:51.720
to maybe i need to cleanse my palate before maybe i should use no computers for a month

02:02:51.960 --> 02:02:53.320
before i switch to a man

02:02:58.280 --> 02:02:58.920
pop a mint

02:03:03.160 --> 02:03:14.120
sorry did someone say that yeah oh man oh man um so what you're saying is apple should make a

02:03:14.120 --> 02:03:22.120
toothbrush anyway

02:03:25.960 --> 02:03:30.600
what are we supposed to be talking about qualcom announces the snapdragon x2 elite

02:03:30.600 --> 02:03:36.520
and x2 elite extreme i remember telling qualcom that their naming scheme was a dumpster fire

02:03:36.520 --> 02:03:43.080
somehow they made it worse good job qualcom um Intel and AMD are not your role models that you think

02:03:43.080 --> 02:03:47.320
they are one year after announcing the original snapdragon x qualcom is showing off its new

02:03:47.320 --> 02:03:52.680
snapdragon x2 elite and x2 extreme oh no isn't it elite extreme yeah i think so but you see even

02:03:52.680 --> 02:03:57.880
our own writers managed to copy it wrong because it made no sense x2 elite will come in two flavors

02:03:57.880 --> 02:04:04.120
with one having 18 cores good lord and 53 megs of cash and the other having 12 cores and 34 megs of

02:04:04.120 --> 02:04:08.600
cash with the 18 core addition having a slight performance advantage in dual core frequency

02:04:08.600 --> 02:04:14.920
with them otherwise being very similar these both have a 128 bit bus the x2 elite extreme

02:04:14.920 --> 02:04:21.560
has 4.4 gigahertz max on 18 cores and reaches 5 gigahertz on single or dual core loads 53 megs

02:04:21.560 --> 02:04:27.720
of cash and a 192 bit bus this thing should be an absolute monster the adrino dedicated dpu dpu

02:04:27.720 --> 02:04:32.440
display processing unit i guess they don't want to call it graphics yikes uh the adrino dpu on

02:04:32.440 --> 02:04:37.560
all the chips can run three displays at up to 4k 144 hertz and qualcom is claiming these are the

02:04:37.560 --> 02:04:43.960
fastest and most efficient processors for a Windows pc two of the reference designs include the very

02:04:43.960 --> 02:04:49.720
cool fror airjet instead of system fans which you can check out our computex video on we covered

02:04:49.720 --> 02:04:56.760
that a little while ago i have actually been back on my snapdragon laptop recently because there's a

02:04:56.760 --> 02:05:03.080
video coming on this soon the liquid metal leaked out of my rg flow x13 and i was super upset about

02:05:03.080 --> 02:05:07.960
that because i freaking love that laptop and i want a next gen one and i'll buy it again even

02:05:07.960 --> 02:05:12.120
with the liquid metal i'll just take the liquid metal out i'll put some ptm 7950 in there i freaking

02:05:12.120 --> 02:05:17.480
love that laptop well it comes with liquid metal yeah was that the stock application of liquid metal

02:05:17.480 --> 02:05:23.960
you better believe it bub so i have to own at least part of the blame for it i was a little rough

02:05:23.960 --> 02:05:32.200
with it and it was warm i think it might have been that time i tossed my backpack and it the

02:05:32.280 --> 02:05:37.320
laptop when you tried to like throw it over the laptop was probably warm and it probably like

02:05:37.320 --> 02:05:44.360
made it come out but either way i was not happy and my laptop is now dead we tried to recover it

02:05:44.360 --> 02:05:51.720
and um it's a it's a long video it's an adventure it's an adventuresome video anyway uh good luck

02:05:51.720 --> 02:05:56.360
qualcom i i hope the adoption of these next generation processors is a little higher

02:05:57.320 --> 02:06:06.360
a i performer gets a record deal oh man care no but millions of listens on spotify

02:06:07.080 --> 02:06:13.400
regularly gets 100 000 views on instagram and it's all ai stuff and likeness vocals and music

02:06:13.400 --> 02:06:23.160
all ai generated and they purportedly got uh three million dollar offer with hallwood media

02:06:23.320 --> 02:06:36.040
uh okay i hate it um cool i'm gonna i'm just gonna close that i've had enough of ai being

02:06:36.040 --> 02:06:41.160
horrible for one day i like it uh should we talk about other things yeah valves under fire after

02:06:41.160 --> 02:06:46.840
block blasters a free to play game was updated about a month after release to install malware

02:06:46.840 --> 02:06:53.720
that allegedly steals the funds of their users the game had allegedly stolen at least 150 000

02:06:53.720 --> 02:06:59.160
us dollars from its users before being removed from steam on september 21st including 32 000

02:06:59.160 --> 02:07:07.960
dollars from latvian streamer rivo plavniacs cancer treatment fund oh come on apparently

02:07:07.960 --> 02:07:13.160
there was a spearfishing campaign targeting creators for sponsorship opportunities this

02:07:13.160 --> 02:07:19.000
isn't even the first time this year that steam has been used to distribute malware in february 2025

02:07:19.000 --> 02:07:23.160
well let's start that sorry that was this year in february pirate five installed a trojan horse

02:07:23.160 --> 02:07:27.640
in march sniper phantom's resolution demo would open a browser and steal user credentials

02:07:27.640 --> 02:07:33.000
and in july kemia game installer would also install multiple payloads of malware

02:07:34.040 --> 02:07:41.000
is pirating safer i doubt it you come across some some sketchy stuff anyway we just wanted

02:07:41.000 --> 02:07:45.480
you guys to be aware of that command prompt and another was that doing another quick game related

02:07:49.400 --> 02:07:55.160
you're good you can go another quick game is this what it's like yeah yep another quick game

02:07:55.160 --> 02:08:02.280
related all the time fyi is ascent rivals has some pretty deep crypto connections we highlighted

02:08:02.280 --> 02:08:10.600
this game last week it was that like pod case pod caser pod caster no pod racer that pod racing

02:08:10.600 --> 02:08:16.200
looking to look alike that is how it feels luke was pretty excited about um ascent rivals

02:08:16.200 --> 02:08:23.320
though is built on the cardano blockchain um gene on games the indie studio behind ascent

02:08:23.320 --> 02:08:28.840
rivals stated that nft holders can join teams based on their nfts and they're apparently using web

02:08:28.840 --> 02:08:33.320
three for sponsorships during tournaments like purchasing in-game billboards so far it doesn't

02:08:33.320 --> 02:08:39.880
look super horrible but none of that really bothers me too much i just i didn't there was a line

02:08:39.880 --> 02:08:49.800
that was like where is it we just definitely wanted you guys to be aware that we're not endorsing

02:08:49.800 --> 02:08:55.480
the game we don't have any kinds of partnerships here we have no idea yeah we have no idea what kind

02:08:55.480 --> 02:09:03.160
of massive win for web three gaming or whatever yeah this is gonna be i'm not interested in that

02:09:03.240 --> 02:09:10.600
we have zero interest in nfts in the game no um i literally just went oh i'm racing a pod

02:09:11.240 --> 02:09:16.920
yeah and then wanted to tell people because i thought it was neat yeah i we're not uh yeah we this

02:09:18.280 --> 02:09:24.920
speaking of other folks that we're not partnered with um disclosure i invested in a nas software

02:09:24.920 --> 02:09:31.240
specifically because of bullshit like this and that decision gets validated on a super regular

02:09:31.240 --> 02:09:38.440
basis this is rough i invested in esch tech who's making hexos which is essentially a four dummies

02:09:38.440 --> 02:09:44.360
interface for true nas so it's true nas under the hood and it's a shiny easy to car drive

02:09:45.320 --> 02:09:49.880
on the outside and i'm super excited about it they are doing some really cool stuff

02:09:50.760 --> 02:09:56.360
you can check them out at hexos.com why am i so excited and feeling so validated right now

02:09:56.360 --> 02:10:02.280
because some sonology nas models that were previously capable of hardware transcoding

02:10:02.280 --> 02:10:09.000
had the relevant drivers removed and not only that but deliberately blocked at the kernel level

02:10:09.000 --> 02:10:16.840
according to user shared support tickets cool sonology you guys weren't like enough of a rip

02:10:16.840 --> 02:10:23.720
off already for crappy hardware now you got to do this sonology announced it would offload media

02:10:23.720 --> 02:10:31.640
processing to client devices in july 2024 citing licensing costs for he vc youtuber nas compares

02:10:31.640 --> 02:10:36.920
covered the change in detail and pointed out a vc is license free and other sonology systems with

02:10:36.920 --> 02:10:43.720
the same CPU but that advertised uh but advertised for plex hosting b station maintain transcoding

02:10:43.720 --> 02:10:50.840
capabilities nas compares also published a guide to get hardware transcoding back which you shouldn't

02:10:50.840 --> 02:10:59.640
have to do so yeah very excited for what the team over at hexos or excuse me ash tech is cooking up

02:10:59.640 --> 02:11:05.240
with hexos they are still how are they doing they're they're still in they have updates alpha

02:11:06.120 --> 02:11:09.800
actually oh that reminds me what's changed this last time we significantly talked about them i

02:11:09.800 --> 02:11:14.280
owe john a response he messaged me the other day what did he say oh yeah he messaged me on discord

02:11:15.720 --> 02:11:20.760
i don't know if this is for public consumption but sure it is now i think you leaked there

02:11:20.920 --> 02:11:26.920
stuff anyways so well the precedence is set he says sorry for the washed out screen this is from

02:11:26.920 --> 02:11:32.360
today uh snipping tool plus HDR is a nasty combination but you get the idea by the way

02:11:32.360 --> 02:11:36.840
that complaint you mentioned about the welcome screen addressed in the q3 update we're publishing

02:11:38.280 --> 02:11:45.800
ah whatever monday uh so i don't know what i'm looking at here but he he recorded a video

02:11:46.600 --> 02:11:55.640
okay cool he just made so they made it so that the welcome wizard is harder to accidentally navigate

02:11:55.640 --> 02:11:59.880
away from and then not be sure how to get back to sure so super cool it just kind of walks you

02:11:59.880 --> 02:12:05.480
through creating users and creating shares and it used to be that if you like created a share and

02:12:05.480 --> 02:12:11.000
then just went like back in your browser you were just lost uh whereas now that's not the case anymore

02:12:11.000 --> 02:12:19.240
so uh hexos man and one of the things that that was a red line for me to invest was that there would

02:12:19.240 --> 02:12:26.360
be a lifetime license there will be a lifetime license it will not include services that have

02:12:26.360 --> 02:12:31.320
an ongoing cost so like if you want to buy cloud storage from them or something like that you want

02:12:31.320 --> 02:12:36.360
to you want to back up to the cloud or you want to use uh you know some kind of like data forwarding

02:12:36.920 --> 02:12:42.040
um that that they that they have ongoing costs for it won't include that but what it will include

02:12:42.600 --> 02:12:49.560
is the basic functionality of the software for life um and that was that was a major thing for me

02:12:49.560 --> 02:12:54.360
is like guys i understand that software companies these days got a software company you got to

02:12:54.360 --> 02:12:58.520
have subscriptions and they're going to have subscription services and stuff but there might

02:12:58.520 --> 02:13:04.600
not be as many jobs for developers out there but they're still expensive but you should have

02:13:04.600 --> 02:13:10.440
the option for a NAS for something that the whole point of it is that you own it you should have an

02:13:10.440 --> 02:13:19.480
option to own it that's the point so i'm i'm very excited for them to uh to get this thing

02:13:20.440 --> 02:13:25.800
out of beta and uh and get the show on the road i just want to roll it for everything

02:13:27.080 --> 02:13:29.720
and that's it for topics so should we move into after dark

02:13:30.680 --> 02:13:37.240
sure if you insist we certainly can okay Dan look at this guy's checked out

02:13:38.280 --> 02:13:42.360
checked out sorry sorry i'm on tiktok what would you say

02:13:44.600 --> 02:13:49.720
banner to after dark it's not into the show okay well at least not on tylenall i'd hate for you

02:13:49.720 --> 02:13:57.080
to get the tizm that's true that's true i need to start macro dosing that really you want more

02:13:57.080 --> 02:14:04.920
tizm yeah not a ton more i think a little bit going on i've always wanted to be in just a

02:14:04.920 --> 02:14:10.440
little bit just a little bit more i just want to appreciate our rail system more it's about it

02:14:11.720 --> 02:14:19.320
collect things okay merge messages how is it possible that blatant ui errors make the final

02:14:19.320 --> 02:14:23.880
product from a major company for example the youtube music widget in google maps blocks its

02:14:23.880 --> 02:14:33.160
own button and half of the road hazards buttons my theory is that the people who are in charge of

02:14:33.160 --> 02:14:41.720
these projects don't actually daily drive them like there's there's so many little things that are

02:14:41.720 --> 02:14:51.800
just kind of obvious like my car for instance it has um it has an individual configurable

02:14:51.800 --> 02:14:58.120
like drive mode so that you can be like well i want like really stiff suspension but i i don't

02:14:58.120 --> 02:15:02.440
want to get a custom one i don't want it lower custom load out for your car yeah and i don't

02:15:02.440 --> 02:15:08.760
want the like super aggressive throttle response like i i want it like this um you cannot if i

02:15:08.760 --> 02:15:15.160
recall correctly configure the regenerative braking because Porsche just has their own philosophy of

02:15:15.960 --> 02:15:19.640
one pedal driving they don't believe in it or whatever which is like yeah that's not really

02:15:19.640 --> 02:15:25.800
your decision that's my decision i i'm the one who paid the money for it but whatever um and the

02:15:25.800 --> 02:15:30.840
the irritating thing for me is that i have to switch to it every single time i get in the car

02:15:30.840 --> 02:15:37.400
because i never want to use one of their profiles that i cannot edit so i have to tick tick tick

02:15:37.400 --> 02:15:43.080
tick switch over to it every time i get in the car and it's just that's annoying why it doesn't

02:15:43.080 --> 02:15:47.560
matter it's the champagne is to champagne problems can you switch while driving just

02:15:47.640 --> 02:15:50.680
random side question okay yep you can totally switch while driving it's just

02:15:51.880 --> 02:15:58.360
unnecessary yeah i just shouldn't have to yeah same thing for stuff like how i can't type on my

02:15:58.360 --> 02:16:05.640
touchscreen my passenger is not allowed to type on my touchscreen when the car is in motion it's

02:16:05.640 --> 02:16:12.200
like you do understand that voice commands just like don't work i mean you're german so i'm sure

02:16:12.200 --> 02:16:18.040
your voice commands are even worse than ours because like they probably speak precisely you

02:16:18.040 --> 02:16:23.480
think so that you think they just have better better enunciation i mean that is entirely possible

02:16:24.200 --> 02:16:28.760
but it's just there's just so many little things that i look at and i just go like yeah you just

02:16:28.760 --> 02:16:35.640
obviously don't daily use this yeah um i think the it's i think it's the ford ceo that was dailying

02:16:35.720 --> 02:16:42.040
a byd car that's super cool i heard he's still was that's super cool like yeah you're the ceo

02:16:42.040 --> 02:16:47.400
of ford you could probably just have a driver drive you around in a Bentley or whatever and never

02:16:47.400 --> 02:16:52.920
touch a steering wheel but how can you possibly hope to run a car company unless you are driving

02:16:52.920 --> 02:16:59.480
your company's cars driving competitors cars like really caring i think that's really cool

02:16:59.480 --> 02:17:05.080
and i just see so many examples like you said of software that clearly has never been used

02:17:05.080 --> 02:17:10.520
like really used by the people who are allegedly in charge of overseeing it with that said

02:17:11.480 --> 02:17:14.680
fairly unimportant clarification but someone's going to call us on it it was a

02:17:15.400 --> 02:17:24.520
Xiaomi su7 sorry my bad my bad not somebody's gonna um but the flip side of that is we talked

02:17:24.520 --> 02:17:29.000
about this earlier you can't have a hundred thousand people perfectly aligned on a mission

02:17:29.000 --> 02:17:32.760
and there's all kinds of stuff that makes it into our finished products that yeah i totally

02:17:32.760 --> 02:17:38.200
wouldn't have approved of but i never saw it or and you can't and you can't see everything if you

02:17:38.200 --> 02:17:42.760
want to do any significant volume of things at scale you're not going to see everything if you

02:17:42.760 --> 02:17:49.880
want to create rather than critique you will discover that it's really hard and you get

02:17:49.880 --> 02:17:55.880
you'll get both sides of the story exact same people complaining about not giving enough people

02:17:55.880 --> 02:18:03.320
agency to do their own thing and and and the the you know being too hard on people for failures

02:18:03.320 --> 02:18:08.600
and wanting to give people rope to to try and experiment and do stuff like that and then

02:18:08.600 --> 02:18:13.160
any single mistake that ever comes out is your fault and you should have done for not overseeing

02:18:13.160 --> 02:18:19.160
it better yeah yeah it's the exact same argument will come from the exact same person yeah that

02:18:19.160 --> 02:18:29.640
one's fun things happen i don't know up next hi l1 l2 and d RAM been yeah nice typical been 15

02:18:29.640 --> 02:18:36.440
years since the olympics came to town do you have any fond memories from those events i actually

02:18:36.440 --> 02:18:44.360
didn't go downtown at all um i was in victoria i thought it was really funny when when canada won

02:18:45.000 --> 02:18:51.560
because of the gold medal hockey game okay because they had those um they had those this is our game

02:18:51.560 --> 02:18:57.320
or whatever like scotia bank ads throughout the entire hockey tournament and they were like super

02:18:57.320 --> 02:19:04.040
polished and they were professional ads do you remember after canada won there was like an

02:19:04.040 --> 02:19:11.400
extra bit that looked like absolute dog because they just like threw it together when canada

02:19:11.400 --> 02:19:15.400
actually made it deep into the tournament and just in case they won it was like a clip that

02:19:15.400 --> 02:19:20.360
they were ready for no i don't remember that and it just like it looked like absolute trash they

02:19:20.360 --> 02:19:24.600
probably should have just done nothing i forget if the resolution i forget if the resolution was

02:19:24.600 --> 02:19:29.640
super low or just like it was missing some of the other assets or something like that just as a as

02:19:29.640 --> 02:19:38.440
a tech person who you know appreciates um the difficulty of putting on a production i just

02:19:38.440 --> 02:19:45.400
found it extremely amusing that someone's job out there was to have this asset ready on the

02:19:45.400 --> 02:19:50.680
off chance that canada won the whole thing so that they could like put it up but probably no

02:19:50.680 --> 02:19:54.600
one would ever see it and they were probably so busy doing other things that they just like didn't

02:19:54.600 --> 02:20:01.880
care uh oh dude so good man there was i my mom tried to convince me to volunteer and i'm like

02:20:01.880 --> 02:20:09.480
annoyed that i didn't because the volunteers got these like sick jackets oh wow that's super nice

02:20:10.520 --> 02:20:15.320
they looked so cool they have a writing on the ARM they have a little logo

02:20:16.200 --> 02:20:22.280
how hudson's bay made a product somebody wanted good for them i mean it was 20 it was 15 years ago

02:20:22.280 --> 02:20:29.720
but i thought these they're doing well now awesome they were so sick it's nice when people like try

02:20:30.680 --> 02:20:35.320
yeah they were dope and you got them from volunteering and i should have just done it

02:20:35.320 --> 02:20:44.360
my mom was right got them up next uh hi dad hello i'm pursuing a degree in tech management and

02:20:44.360 --> 02:20:51.160
recently realized i'm one out of two out of 20 in a class that actually reads the material and

02:20:51.160 --> 02:20:57.720
doesn't have chat gpt do my homework uh teacher doesn't care should i stop try it no no kind of

02:20:57.720 --> 02:21:03.400
stupid question is that you'll probably just do better you should you should not ask questions

02:21:03.400 --> 02:21:10.040
like that because that's not good management you should take pride in your work and you

02:21:10.040 --> 02:21:15.960
should do a good job because that should be something that you that is is part of your

02:21:16.680 --> 02:21:25.640
identity as a person you're welcome luke thanks for actually being here today

02:21:26.520 --> 02:21:30.280
why are you so cheap what's happening

02:21:32.760 --> 02:21:39.320
david throwing hands is that it that's the whole thing he bought a blank t-shirt just to ask you that

02:21:40.680 --> 02:21:45.400
do better i think he could have just said wait did they buy our cheapest possible no they

02:21:45.400 --> 02:21:50.600
bought uh they bought some they picked up a couple extra tolls okay so they bought a couple of our

02:21:50.680 --> 02:21:57.560
cheapest but we don't have extra tolls Dan they bought two extra large shadows in tall ah sorry

02:21:57.560 --> 02:22:04.920
short sleeves uh when i was young young we were doing great and then when i was medium young

02:22:06.520 --> 02:22:11.480
there was a big accident and my dad's work can use that to work for a long time and he had to like

02:22:12.200 --> 02:22:16.600
it got really bad for a while there we were close to losing the house and then he had to go to our

02:22:16.600 --> 02:22:22.920
doctor and be like yo you need to let me work again because like things are going to get a lot

02:22:22.920 --> 02:22:27.560
worse for me to the point where it would be worse for me to not work than it would for me to do work

02:22:27.560 --> 02:22:31.480
so let me go back and then he got if i remember correctly and i'm pretty sure this is accurate

02:22:31.480 --> 02:22:36.680
two full-time jobs and a part-time job within like a week and just went like sicko mode for way too

02:22:36.680 --> 02:22:43.960
long and i don't fully know how he is alive um but he like saved the family and everything was crazy

02:22:43.960 --> 02:22:50.840
and i learned some appreciation for like having cash in the bank um yeah and i it's not that i

02:22:50.840 --> 02:22:59.160
don't spend money i spend money on experiences i prefer to buy small amount of nice thing that

02:22:59.160 --> 02:23:04.280
will last that i can repair that money on going i spend money on health i spend money on keeping

02:23:04.280 --> 02:23:11.960
myself going um gym gym equipment things like that other people he won't say it but i'll say it

02:23:11.960 --> 02:23:18.680
luke spends money on other people yeah um that is true i ran into your dad

02:23:19.240 --> 02:23:24.040
yeah this week curling yeah we had uh we had a quarterly event for the writing department

02:23:24.680 --> 02:23:29.400
which i'm informally part of because no other department that does quarterly events includes

02:23:29.400 --> 02:23:35.960
me um so we we went curling which was organized by david pancrats who's super awesome he's a

02:23:35.960 --> 02:23:41.160
relatively new member of the team but he's uh he's dived right in he's been doing awesome

02:23:41.160 --> 02:23:46.600
and um he organized a curling night and it was the first time i had curled nerd sports

02:23:46.600 --> 02:23:53.240
which was the first time i had curled ever yeah and i still suck that makes sense yeah it's really

02:23:53.240 --> 02:23:58.360
hard yeah it was fun though it was fun as heck did he he was he just like busy the whole time

02:23:58.360 --> 02:24:03.080
or did he like he came over to chat with us but he had stuff to do yeah yeah but he actually

02:24:03.080 --> 02:24:07.560
helped with a little bit of coaching for the other group it wasn't my group um did you have

02:24:07.560 --> 02:24:15.000
like two sheets yeah yeah okay it makes sense that's two lanes for the bowlers out there yeah yeah

02:24:15.000 --> 02:24:20.680
yeah there you go but but yeah i don't know uh i also just and you know maybe it's something

02:24:20.680 --> 02:24:25.160
that's wrong with me or whatever i don't really consider it that way i feel much more comfortable

02:24:25.960 --> 02:24:31.880
um i don't feel a need to buy a bunch of this stuff like i had personally attacked i don't

02:24:31.880 --> 02:24:37.000
get that much fulfillment from just buying things i do get fulfillment from buying something that i

02:24:37.000 --> 02:24:41.720
like spent a lot of time like i i haven't been able to use it because my house is in shambles right now

02:24:41.720 --> 02:24:46.680
but uh i'm very excited about the big screen beyond that wasn't cheap that was a bunch of no

02:24:46.680 --> 02:24:51.720
that was not cheap don't i took it out of the box i put a little cover on it just placed it against

02:24:51.720 --> 02:24:56.920
my face and just everything went black immediately because it's perfectly form perfect oh i'm excited

02:24:56.920 --> 02:25:04.040
about that thing it feels great i mean i stoked so like i i do spend money i just make sure that i

02:25:04.040 --> 02:25:11.480
have an ample amount saved ready for the rainiest day you could have um and that makes me very

02:25:11.480 --> 02:25:14.840
comfortable and i like being in that state so i do that

02:25:18.360 --> 02:25:24.600
hey lld what happened to the 3d printed water cooling tube you had made did it hold up was

02:25:24.600 --> 02:25:29.160
there an update on it that i just missed happy to see tall shirts are back in stock

02:25:29.880 --> 02:25:39.000
uh i believe we did update yeah we did updates for six months on the 3d printed hardline water

02:25:39.000 --> 02:25:46.760
cooled computer challenge over on Floatplane so here's what it looked like after three months

02:25:47.800 --> 02:25:56.360
jk subscribe to Floatplane LMG.gg slash Floatplane got him hi landinus and drake uh oh uh what

02:25:56.360 --> 02:26:02.200
are the coolest modifications that you've seen made to the LTT backpack i replaced the LTT logo

02:26:02.200 --> 02:26:09.400
with my own patch added power cord handles and extra inner pockets and loops i was just kidding

02:26:09.400 --> 02:26:16.200
before by the way the 3d printed tubes did hold up um super cool you don't actually have to subscribe

02:26:16.200 --> 02:26:21.400
to Floatplane just to get that answer this is why we don't go to parties just trolling them um i think

02:26:21.400 --> 02:26:27.880
that's probably the most modified backpack that i've heard of uh did have you guys seen a more

02:26:27.880 --> 02:26:37.320
modified backpack than that oh there's one here what oh are you is this a modified oh wait are you

02:26:37.320 --> 02:26:42.760
the one who left the merge message or what oh no that one's just like the same this is like the

02:26:42.760 --> 02:26:49.160
same list of stuff okay well here can we see it it's jane show me your sack this is dms's backpack

02:26:49.240 --> 02:26:53.000
massively over fills it to the point where it's going to like explode all the time

02:26:55.080 --> 02:26:59.400
okay a bunch of countries i have i have pointed out that he could not have that

02:27:00.680 --> 02:27:06.840
wait so he ruined the zipper it went through surgery and then just zipped hide one side of

02:27:06.840 --> 02:27:14.120
the backpack shut this is my suitcase every time i travel yeah yeah it's like literally always

02:27:14.120 --> 02:27:19.080
exploding every time i see it i like the mud you know this is like for for a lot of airlines

02:27:19.080 --> 02:27:25.800
like personal item size and then you can have a bigger carry on as well okay okay um okay thanks

02:27:25.800 --> 02:27:34.520
dms i'm just i you know what if you're happy i'm happy uh okay down here didn't say it had to be

02:27:34.520 --> 02:27:42.760
modified well hey Linus luke and sound guy with the video this week on that 30 000 dollar GPU if

02:27:42.760 --> 02:27:48.040
you guys had one yourself is there something you could actually use it for or would it just be like

02:27:48.040 --> 02:27:54.360
a novelty item you have absolutely lab said it was like salivating at the idea of having something

02:27:54.360 --> 02:28:03.000
like that more permanently uh whether it's for like ai coding assistance or um machine vision for um

02:28:03.000 --> 02:28:07.880
like recognizing ui elements and like verifying in game settings um what are some of the other

02:28:07.880 --> 02:28:15.480
things they wanted to do with it those are the main things but there's also other like uh machine

02:28:15.480 --> 02:28:21.800
vision powered tasks that we're planning that it could be applied to but i mean there's other ways

02:28:21.800 --> 02:28:29.400
and there's also waiting a little bit i mean um the ai industry is marching ever onward and so

02:28:29.400 --> 02:28:35.560
there will come a time not long from now when literally millions of these GPU's will be liquidated

02:28:35.640 --> 02:28:42.360
on places like server parts deals and that'll be nuts we'll be ready that'll be actually crazy

02:28:42.360 --> 02:28:48.520
there's also the chinese GPU companies that are trying let's see how they go we'll see what happens

02:28:50.840 --> 02:28:59.560
uh next luke does Floatplane participate in standards bodies like svta no that was a short

02:28:59.560 --> 02:29:04.440
answer what is it i don't even i never heard of that uh i've heard i don't remember hearing of it

02:29:04.520 --> 02:29:10.760
streaming video technology alliance yeah i've heard like they would pick up our phone call okay

02:29:10.760 --> 02:29:18.360
let's move on yeah how is the preparation going for whale land is this the first time this is the

02:29:18.360 --> 02:29:24.920
first time sorry this is better this is the first time i've been in a country that i wasn't born

02:29:24.920 --> 02:29:29.640
in i am very excited and the border agent didn't believe me when i told him why i was crossing

02:29:29.640 --> 02:29:37.560
that's hilarious i'm going to a gaming party uh love it up prep is going okay i still have

02:29:37.560 --> 02:29:42.440
some more things to do tonight after WAN Show and i will probably still have some more things to do

02:29:42.440 --> 02:29:49.400
in the morning but i very much look forward to seeing y'all there um i'm going to be setting up

02:29:49.400 --> 02:29:53.560
a five v five tape to tape i think i said that on pre show i'm not sure if i talked about that on

02:29:53.640 --> 02:30:00.360
on when but uh it's weird not having it after when i don't know that it's bad it's just weird

02:30:00.360 --> 02:30:04.920
well you're more than welcome to you know come help set up the five v five i'm going to be zipping

02:30:04.920 --> 02:30:10.040
over or are you going over there nice just to see it yeah help a little bit if i can okay cool yeah

02:30:10.040 --> 02:30:16.520
well i'll be over there hello dll grabbing some new blanks love the feel and fit of my current

02:30:16.520 --> 02:30:21.160
ones heck yeah what is the process you go through to pick up the right material it's rare to find

02:30:21.160 --> 02:30:29.000
anything near the quality you have so quality is subjective there was another youtuber who

02:30:30.040 --> 02:30:36.280
took issue with the materials that we use in our blanks uh they basically believe that anything

02:30:36.280 --> 02:30:43.640
that doesn't have 100 cotton is garbage i don't agree i actually really like the feel of a cotton

02:30:43.640 --> 02:30:52.200
poly blend um so there's there's some subjectivity there and that's kind of the answer is because

02:30:52.200 --> 02:31:00.280
i really like them so we went through countless blank suppliers to find one that i really liked

02:31:00.280 --> 02:31:09.800
and then we went with that greetings wan dot dll my question is for Linus i've been watching a

02:31:09.800 --> 02:31:16.200
lot of older early wan shows do you ever miss having your cats on set love to hear your bingles

02:31:16.200 --> 02:31:22.840
mewing in the background lol i have wanted to have an office pet basically for as long as we've had an

02:31:22.840 --> 02:31:30.680
office and every single time like like rodent incursions come up in a meeting i'm like hear me

02:31:30.680 --> 02:31:38.360
out the cats go flies office cat um they can not all but particularly good hunters will just kill

02:31:38.360 --> 02:31:43.320
anything they'll just kill everything is there a breed of cat that are particularly good hunters

02:31:43.320 --> 02:31:51.320
there can be flying so here's the problem is that cats are likely to cats that come down cats are

02:31:51.320 --> 02:31:57.080
likely to be an allergen for people that is the reason that we didn't have an office cat from

02:31:57.080 --> 02:32:01.640
the moment we moved in here was that there was someone on staff who was allergic to cats that

02:32:01.640 --> 02:32:07.240
person is actually no longer here but i'm sure someone else is allergic and i've always someone

02:32:07.240 --> 02:32:14.280
at some time i've always been of the mind that my love of cats cannot possibly trump someone else's

02:32:15.240 --> 02:32:20.520
being comfortable at work what i just that was just amazing thank you yeah i hope that gets

02:32:20.520 --> 02:32:28.680
clipped um i do i'm allergic to bats bats because we could get bats for the fly problems the fly

02:32:28.680 --> 02:32:37.000
problems are deeply not solved i don't i don't need a new i don't need a uh hundreds of clover

02:32:37.000 --> 02:32:51.480
dale flu okay that leaked from an LTT lab okay what's next oh geez at luke i know you're using

02:32:51.480 --> 02:32:58.760
cloudfare for float playing delivery but do you use any of the dev plant zt features or just cdn and

02:32:58.760 --> 02:33:05.880
wef we use like yeah a bunch of stuff we've well i'm just going to talk more generally but uh we

02:33:05.880 --> 02:33:14.040
use the heck out of workers we use uh r2 um we use a lot of cloudflare things we use the heck out of

02:33:14.120 --> 02:33:18.440
workers it's a it's a thing i know i know

02:33:21.880 --> 02:33:23.880
when one fails we just redeploy another one

02:33:27.160 --> 02:33:33.240
we have hundreds they're disposable we have yeah over a thousand if i work correctly uh and you

02:33:33.240 --> 02:33:38.760
don't even pay them you just toss it out when you don't want it anymore um yeah i gotta stop

02:33:38.760 --> 02:33:44.840
googling how to kill children at work mother won't kill child what do i do the ones that work or

02:33:44.840 --> 02:33:49.480
you're at work when you're googling how to kill children in general that's the one yeah you can

02:33:49.480 --> 02:33:55.560
you ask ggpt because you just get blocked but does it just block you or does it ask you what you

02:33:55.560 --> 02:34:00.360
mean i don't know i don't normally just go around i feel like i have to do that now i don't know i

02:34:00.360 --> 02:34:04.840
just don't understand why you're having trouble with it it's not that hard i don't have to do it

02:34:04.840 --> 02:34:11.960
from the command line well like they're weak my experience is all in car not cloud infrastructure

02:34:13.720 --> 02:34:21.240
all right next anyways yeah we use genuinely a lot of their things uh r2 is sem uh it's not

02:34:21.240 --> 02:34:27.240
semi new to us we've been using it for like since the beginning of r2 but uh we have started using

02:34:27.240 --> 02:34:34.360
it significantly more now um and yeah i wouldn't be too surprised if we keep using more stuff

02:34:34.360 --> 02:34:40.440
i've said it forever i really love the product of cloud flare there are some issues with it i

02:34:40.440 --> 02:34:46.440
really wish it played a little bit nicer with australia um but it's it's a fantastic product

02:34:47.960 --> 02:34:51.880
other parts of cloud flare maybe not as big of a fan but their products are great

02:34:53.400 --> 02:35:00.840
hi dll for Linus have you thought about whole room vr for the land side of the badminton center

02:35:00.840 --> 02:35:06.360
zero latency vr is an amazing experience with cool games like space marine i have could franchise

02:35:06.360 --> 02:35:12.040
i don't want to set it up and also like oh my god i have to take all my nets down we have to move

02:35:12.040 --> 02:35:18.600
all the benches i have to set up like tracking and i guess we'd probably have to have like an entire

02:35:18.600 --> 02:35:24.920
fleet of like backpack pcs and you know peripherals to deploy it would be a whole completely different

02:35:25.560 --> 02:35:32.040
business model uh we do have some cool room scale multiplayer vr stuff at whale land but it's

02:35:32.040 --> 02:35:37.640
it's rolled by a separate company they're just coming in to do like a a trial one so they're

02:35:37.640 --> 02:35:40.920
doing it for free this time and then they'd want us to pay in the future we're going to see how much

02:35:40.920 --> 02:35:45.160
people like it and if if people are super into it then maybe we'll do it again in the future but

02:35:45.160 --> 02:35:52.280
we're not going to just turn the entire badminton center into a vr space because and this may be

02:35:52.280 --> 02:35:57.640
surprised to a lot of folks out there who don't know that badminton is like kind of a big sport

02:35:57.640 --> 02:36:06.200
but we're actually getting really busy every time i show up it's full cooking baby we're cooking

02:36:06.200 --> 02:36:12.520
yeah it was it's it's been it was really interesting reading the comments when we first announced it

02:36:12.520 --> 02:36:18.680
on youtube just like hey we've got a land center slash badminton club this will never work is he

02:36:18.680 --> 02:36:24.360
joking is it money laundering it's like guys there's a whole wide world out there all you

02:36:24.360 --> 02:36:30.760
got to do to discover it is just open your mind a little bit you'll like it come on in the water's

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warm and last one i've got for you today hello lld long time watcher first time buyer question is

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for luke luke who know wow player housing is coming back before christmas it's time to come home

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no i don't even care a little bit oh really player housing oh okay i don't know do you like you

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want player housing i don't even know what it is uh so i mean i don't know what their implementation

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is maybe they make it kind of neat but digital mom's basement that would be really funny um

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but you player housing in games there's a bunch of different implementations for it but it's like

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mmo obviously wow but you have a unique house that is yours that you can theoretically customize to

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a certain degree so it's the sims in an mmo okay i mean well people like maybe you can invite your

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friends over to your house and stuff so it's the sims but you have like armor on

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you say that but like you played a lot of wow the armor the pretend you don't think the armor

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no the armor is really why are you trying to be cooler but that's the problem is the armor is

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way cooler than the house i see yeah the armor is sick wow just being like yeah your shoulder

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pads are just like four times as big as you right that was great okay brilliant so you would be into

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player housing i can't wear the house as long as the door would be wide enough to accommodate your

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armor no because it's kind of a flex when you can't fit through the doors and wow okay so you

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want a small door built for you you want a small door so we've had horse armor now we have house

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armor house armor yeah okay so here you are saying you don't care about the house but then

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you're like actually i really like it when doors are small yeah so you can't really have it both

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ways here look here your world view is confusing i just you're not going to get me to come back

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to wow by adding player housing which like mmo's had literally 20 years ago like i'm surprised that

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they didn't it's a good way to extract money what's up james c a u it's an a u back to james c

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nice that was a that was the last merge message of the show nice and we'll see you guys again next

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week same bad time same bad channel bye there it is james c

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me

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you
