I forgot to get my laptop out so that I can see the analytics I always have to watch them
I put the anal in analytics what are you even what are you even doing this thing's crazy
which one oh yeah yeah yeah yeah okay we're just gonna have to like go live we're pretty
late so yeah I'm thinking we'll just do it okay all right let's do this thing holy crap
we're zooming the selected now
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what is up ladies and gentlemen welcome to Wancho theater I'll be your host
Linus Sebastian and Luke will be there and I will probably talk over him a lot but not
right now because he isn't talking we've got a great show line up for you guys today one of
the big headline topics this week is of course that Amazon will pay 2.5 billion dollars in a
settlement for their prime at subscription subscription traps freaking Gotham probably
not enough but hey at least it's some semblance of justice in other news this is cool Google
reveals that its Android PC is coming in 2026 that's right the often rumored merging of Android
and Chrome OS into one dark unholy ad-driven platform well doesn't sound like that's quite
what's happening so I was so mesmerized by your speech I don't have anything repaired at all nice
that was fascinating spam GPT is a thing and it's gonna suck and I think it might already be
actually it looks really good what which is bad oh yeah yeah big time the other one is oh this
made me question things we'll read more about it ascent rivals the game I showed out last week
has like really strong crypto connections maybe oh really that that's a headline top no it doesn't
matter the point is the show is brought to you today by Corsair factor and a rove lab along with
our rap partner dbrand our laptop partner delin our chair partner secret lab why don't we jump
right into our headline topic this is a really great uncharacteristically good question from
youtube chat and the scrolling broke nope chow we combo says Amazon owes everyone two and a half
billion or Amazon owes you two and a half billion us the collective us that's the title Amazon owes
us two and a half billion and us actually in this case doesn't even include us because this
appears to be a us thing to settle an FTC lawsuit that accused Amazon of deceptive
prime enrollment and cancellation strategies the company will end the practice this is a nice
little w we call it will end the practice and pay a one billion dollar civil penalty and send
one and a half billion dollars in refunds to 35 million customers it is the largest FTC penalty
ever in a case involving an FTC rule violation and the refunds are the second highest restitution
award ever obtained by FTC action so bravo FTC I mean Luke and I and everyone knows how Amazon
prime and barley grows like it has been such an obvious blatantly anti-consumer approach
with Amazon is taken with their prime subscriptions pretty much since ever and the kinds of mazes
that they created wasn't it your grandfather they couldn't figure out how to cancel his prime and he
had like multiple subscriptions or something like that yeah like the whole thing was just nasty and
it's nice to see for freaking once for freaking once these agencies actually hold companies
account with nice big fines that might actually incentivize them to do things properly going
forward now I obviously would have preferred if that one click to cancel thing had gone through
because yeah big time like we're in Canada right so we don't necessarily benefit from
things that the FTC does in the US except that a lot of the time we do because whatever flies
in a company's biggest market tends to kind of trickle over into various other markets it's
one of the reasons that I it's often not worth building all the differentiation I'm holding
this iPhone right now that has a usb-c port on the bottom because you can bet your bottom dollar
that if the EU wasn't a large enough market for apple they would have either just sort of flip
them off and not bothered to ship iPhones there or they would have actually no I guess this has
nothing to do with them being a large enough market but the point is they could have also
segmented them out and just had lightning every well in usb-c there but clearly the EU was big
enough for them to not just walk away from it and not yeah that's it not just walk away from it and
refuse to make a I suspect they were worried about cappy cappy cot I think they're worried about
copycat action and wanted to get out ahead of it copycat yeah if like the US did the same thing
oh sure yeah and then and then because if they do if they if they don't have that happen then I think
they're at lower risk of other things being thrown at them yeah anyways the FTC specifically
requires amazon to use a clear and conspicuous button for customers to decline prime and stop
using buttons as cancellation deterrence with texts such as no I don't want free shipping
they need to go after a lot of other places then too uh yep because there's like if you book a
flight it's always like no I want to be like unsafe or whatever like I don't want my trip to be
whatever blah blah blah blah it's oh dude just insurance like oh I had I had I was trying to
close Lenovo vantage today and what it was like do you want it to show up in your system tray
and what it was yes or later which seemed so crazy to me I was like what is later me
I clicked later to figure it out and later was just no dude any message on any one of my devices
that doesn't have a do not show this again makes me want to just freaking do I do I get this
notification from my watch like every other day that's like high power usage when you use always
on screen and do all this stuff that makes your watch work as a watch and all I can do is dismiss
it I can't say I don't care never ever oh here it is high power usage my only option check this out
my only option is got it that's it I I have clicked got it 100 bazillion times since I started using
the one plus two r now okay I don't want to I don't want to go off the rails here I don't want to go
off the rails and and see if they're and and say something that's not right so I'll I'll happily I
don't know apps app notifications show all no okay so if there's something in here that gives me the
option to to not have it warn me about that then uh get notified when battery use issues are found
okay I did find that in settings is that is that that either way when you give me a notification
I don't want to have to go digging three levels into a menu to say I don't care about this notification
never send it to me again uh I'd love to talk about Microsoft Teams sure every single
cotton time I sign into teams on my account which is a lot because I have my home computer
I have my laptop I have my work computer I have my phone actually you know what it's pretty good
about not signing you know I actually know it does sign you out on the phone for a bit so I
signed it so I signed into teams a lot it's kind of a hobby for me signing into Microsoft Teams
every time I sign in it asks oh do you want to let the organization manage your device
and it also asks uh do you want to sign in system wide or just this app it asks you that every time
every single time that's actually weird I do not have that experience then and this is fun
then it asks hey do you want to stay signed in so you don't have to do this all the time
and I click yes I know it isn't gonna work but I click it anyway I click yes every time I click
yes every time because I do not want to be prompted to sign in constantly someday I dream
I dream of a day when that button will work it'll be grand it's not this day but it is not this day
the courage of Microsoft to keep giving you the same message will fail but it is not this day
I do wonder like I read a headline um Microsoft splitting off teams from office yeah that's
nothing in the EU now right but I thought this was gonna end up happening everywhere man we're
talking about like clicking too many things I google that and and google's like do you want to try AI
mode it's like no no get out of my way
yes Microsoft is in the process of unbundling Microsoft teams from its office 365 and Microsoft
365 enterprise suites globally wow nice apparently it'll become of
oh for new customers okay okay yeah yeah but yeah I think this is gonna happen to everyone
eventually I'm really wondering what that's gonna do to teams because teams is in my opinion
just objectively not a very good communications platform and for like a bunch of reasons tons
we've gone over them many times his take not mine um I don't disagree but the word objectively is
kind of scary like you could say something as simple as I can explain objectively this frequency
response curve is even farther outside of what would be an ideal frequency response curve
and people would get like really mad about it like you could say something as simple as that
why I say that though yeah because in communications there's you know how there's like the whole
body language and stuff like that it is difficult to tell if things are working in teams they they
because it's like this seem to have it's got all the body language no it's there's there's things
like the you know okay the box around your picture has like a border that lights up when
your mic is activated for the other person so the other person looking at you talking your little
box will have the thing okay cool sounds good almost every other platform just does the same
thing for you yeah teams does not unacceptable they finally listened to it okay but I have a real
problem they listened to the feedback and they decided to make it so that the mute icon microphone
way up in the corner will slightly fill up whenever you're talking no which is no no I have a
just terrible I have a real complaint about teams teams is trying to destroy my monitor
so I have an OLED at home okay and one of the things that I do to keep my OLED you know not
burned in is I auto hide my taskbar if I have an unread message in teams my taskbar will not hide
drives me absolutely bat crap crazy because it could be a message that I have already addressed
on my phone but my taskbar will just be open they're trying to burn the taskbar into my monitor
yeah so I can't use auto hide taskbar teams teams feels extremely half baked to me um
yeah I don't know I could genuinely talk about it for like hours flat out wrong nothing provides
better integrated platform that matters more in enterprise bigger companies complies smaller
driving to ban them I'll ban them no I know nothing to do at all with what I was talking
about so it doesn't really matter but the thing that I was discussing was teams itself and teams
being good not its ability to integrate with other things its ability to integrate with other
things is pretty good I don't think it's actually necessarily the best but yeah that just that
just actually has nothing to do and to be clear we obviously choose to use it yeah because it's
cheap as dirt which is the reason why almost everyone uses it and a lot of companies need
something else that's in office 365 which is again why they end up using it um it's it's like
used out of convenience it's used out of the reasons that that handyman just pointed out
which is that it's like integrated with so many other things it's almost like that's why Microsoft
managed to get to where they are today at all because it's there it's not used because it's
good and I'm wondering if that will be really changing at all with this decoupling I seriously
doubt it because even if it's decoupled it's still there and it will still just work with a lot of
the other things that most companies happen to need so it's remarkable how often the first like
six seconds of a team's call are cut off yep what's that works yep I'm trying to think of
something else that doesn't work like FaceTime can you remember the last time you made a FaceTime call
and just like the first five seconds of it was both sides being like can you hear me can you hear
me can you hear me can you hear me it happens constantly on literally no other modern communication
platform other than teams and it is a constant problem on teams that's great chat be like it has
a built-in millennial pause yeah it really does teams seems to be really obsessive about
screwing around with your audio devices in really weird ways as well which is odd and
doesn't make any sense to me all right teams is boring let's move on yeah why don't we talk
instead about how Microsoft will be using AI to make AI better okay that sounds really boring
and sucky but hold on it's actually incredibly interesting with microfluidic cooling channels
Microsoft is using AI to map hotspots do you want to click the Microsoft announcement I think they
had some pictures in there yes is using AI to map hotspots in its AI accelerators individually
so that is on each unique chip then laser etching hair-sized channels to pump coolant through them
the channels bring coolant into direct contact with the silicon Microsoft says inside the silicon
Forbes says passing over it Forbes is almost certainly more correct than Microsoft here
sorry Microsoft inside the silicon would break it both the method and the AI are from specialized
swiss startup corintis Microsoft has claimed a 3x improvement to cooling compared to traditional
cold plates the channels need to be deep enough to circulate coolant without clogging but not weaken
the silicon enough to break four design iterations were produced in just the last year and the chips
needed to be designed with a leak proof package what that's wild dude this is so cool yeah I was
worried about playing the video because yeah whatever it's from Microsoft it should be fine
realistically if for Microsoft to be like is that nuts like go go back go back to that that was
dude that's crazy look at this that's nuts so you just you just plumb the coolant directly up to the
are you kidding me right now actually okay
do you think we could do it ourselves well not obviously we wouldn't have the micro fluid channels
yeah but do you think we could seal something against a board well enough to just like pump
coolant into it right to the die yeah you think so I think so not anywhere I mean that was a render
but not anywhere near as as clean as I think they're proposing that they're going to be doing
like I don't I don't think we'd be able to do it on a desktop socket just because then you have the
socket to contend with but if we were to do it on like a framework motherboard or something like
that and just just basically like you know use the cock just put all the cock around the CPU
we'll need a lot of cock a lot a lot and then just just plumb it in there just lay on the cock
just lay on it yep and then like what kind of shape would we need it would have to be like
it couldn't go all the way around because you'd have to have an opening yeah you'd have to have an
opening maybe a flat side so it kind of be it'd be like like the d somewhere yeah yeah yeah yeah
anyway the point is the reason that I wanted to talk about this the reason this is like a main topic
rather than you know like a whatever they're called rapid fire topic is because I saw something
really cool today and I know it's not going to make you jealous because you're going somewhere
cooler than me next week but wait what no I'm excited to hear it oh okay but it was very cool
so our bros over at Simon Fraser University here in beautiful British Columbia last time you
worked with them it was sick how long ago do you think that video was six years
it was eight years ago whoa that's the shooting relatively high that's the
fence I made oh my god because I looked it up because I wanted to grab a b-roll clip from the
last time as I was writing the script and I was like you gotta be kidding me right now
that's not yeah the last the last time we worked with them was eight years ago and at that time
they were rolling out I believe it's codename cedar Canada's fastest supercomputer well guess
what baby this time things are getting furry if you know what I'm saying beaver codename fur
oh yeah nice they're named after trees cool yeah so this time around if I are they just rolled out
their fur super computing cluster and it makes cedar look like it's made of wood like it's
dude cedar is like hobo garbage compared to fur it's amazing um there have you already seen it I
was there this week nice okay yeah so so the reason that I I felt it was related to this is that
we haven't actually gotten many opportunities to look at liquid cooling in the data center
so we did that thing with equinix a little while back but and they had some liquid cooled racks
but they were inside a cage that belonged to a customer because that's equinix's business right
I got to see it at ovh well I didn't go there we couldn't look at certain things too closely and
stuff I got to look at everything oh so because sf you are the actual owners of the systems
they were like yeah fuck it we're gonna pull a couple out of prod and so nice both a CPU node
and a GPU node we got a chance to go right hands on with direct to die cooling systems
we saw the uh we saw the liquid distribution units that go down at the end of the at the end of the
aisle um we like got to oh my god they're beautiful so so the man they're okay so they had CPU nodes
and GPU nodes as part of the cluster and the CPU nodes are one you okay 192 cores
yeah but wait hold on did I say 192 cores no no that's wrong sorry one you two nodes per you
192 cores per node jeez so so these are almost 400 cores per one you and there isn't a single
fan in them not one it's just all water cool the CPU's are liquid cooled
the memory is liquid cooled the nick is liquid cool the SSD bay is freaking liquid cool everything
is liquid cooled and then the GPU the GPU one obviously adds the GPU's to that so they're
using chilled liquid from the outside of the building they've got um evaporative cooling towers
so they pull those in those go to their water doors so they have the same rear doors that they
had last time did you watch the video last time i mean eight years ago i wouldn't forget i mean i
don't remember but yes but basically you pull ambient air in the front of the rack it gets
superheated essentially well not superheated in like a scientific sense but it gets heated up okay
and then it comes out the back and then they have they they force the hot air through a door that is
a big radiator that has chilled liquid running through it about 16 degrees celsius yeah and then
by the time it gets crapped out into the aisle it's just room temperature so they don't have a
traditional hot aisle cold aisle setup yeah they just have hot inside of the rack and then two
cold aisles essentially a decent amount of this sounds pretty similar to ovh's setup so they still
have water doors on the back and that just handles any waste heat from the power supply any networking
that's inside the cabinet anything like that so they pump the primary loop right into those
water doors so that's the glycol loop that goes out to the cooling towers then they go from the
water doors to the cooling distribution units that are liquid distribution ldu so whatever
they're called it's in the video so those are at the end of the aisle and then they've got a huge
heat exchanger in those and when i say huge i mean f***ing massive 600 kilowatts
600,000 watts heat exchangers in these things it's enough to it's enough to make a man all hot and
bothered um and then so those have redundant pumps what's that mr daniel best sir sorry
i did a bit at 600,000 yeah i know right how big are they they're not that big no no they're not that
big the size of a building or like a room no no they're just at the end of the rack they look
like a regular how much that possible a regular cabinet it's just a big heat exchanger man i mean
that one in my in my basement yeah it's only like this big i forget i forget how many freaking
watts that thing does but it's a lot like i the exchange is pretty nuts yeah crazy fluid to fluid
heat exchange man it's efficient right anyway um so 600,000 watt heat exchanger and then they've
got redundant pumps in there and those pump the secondary loop which goes directly to the system
so you don't need glycol because it's all indoors you don't actually go outside to the cooling towers
okay so that is different then oh okay is that different i believe so okay i'm if i'm remembering
everything correctly most setups would have a primary and a secondary loop and they would use
heat exchangers but yeah maybe no i mean i think ovh's all go outside do they i think so so just
primary loop i believe so no secondary loop okay i don't don't quote us and that might not be true
of every data center i also just might not remember correctly that they've done necessarily um okay so
what was i what was i talking about next oh yes oh dude like it's crazy so you can i so i was actually
able to like because their sfu systems there's no concerns about customer security or privacy or
whatever so we were freaking we're freaking opening up like the heat exchanger cabinet i'm like oh i
wonder which side is the hot side put my freaking hands on them like dude it's crazy so the hot
side's like almost 40 degrees or something like that and so that goes into the heat exchanger and
then that goes to i think the coolant coming out of the water doors is like it starts at 16 and a
half it goes up to like 18 or 20 or something like that dude and the side of these these liquid
distribution units they have like a touchscreen lcd on them that just shows like both loops and
all the temperatures and pump rpms and everything they've got all the telemetry ah ah if only i had
82 million canadian dollars then i too could have that i also have to have somewhere to put it i know
a lot of schools actually do have quite a bit of money but i wonder like that's a lot of money for
like student project stuff so i wonder what they're doing like student projects research yeah this is
research i would imagine they might even lease out some of this compute i don't actually know that
for sure um but i do know that the funding came from a combination of the federal government
the provincial government and then also in kind discounts um from from the providers yeah so they
mentioned lenovo shoot i'm gonna forget who they are they they also mentioned the the brand that did
the cooling and the one other brand but they all get they're out they're all shouted out at the end
of the video um it was an absolutely incredible tour though it was my first time getting to go full
nuts and bolts hand on hands on with and like i gotta say man the loop layouts and these things
are like wild like completely defy every law of efficient water cooling loop layout logic what
do you mean how so like they are full of 90 degree bands oh they're everywhere and like they've got
they're using these like teeny tiny like one eighth inch tubes inside there's like manifolds
everywhere the whole thing doesn't look particularly balanced for flow restriction like do they just
have like insane pressure and don't care like um but so they're taking a one eighth inch it looks
like a one eighth inch tube maybe it's quarter inch i don't know how thick the walls are because
it's all copper huh it's copper everywhere it's beautiful and they take that one like one eighth
maybe one quarter inch tube and it goes to a manifold that goes to those four gpus each of
which is 700 watts oh did i even mention the GPU nodes are one you have 48 CPU cores they can
actually do two dual cpus they could you could put 192 cores in there and then they have four h100s
in each one you not a single fan not one how much is an h100 don't worry about it about 30 grand
i thought it was the h200 i don't think they're priced that differently oh and these are h100 80
gigs which are like the better h100 yes and then the h200 has even more memory if i recall correctly
but uses the same hopper architecture oh yeah some of these are really expensive uh yeah see 40k
for one of them but it's from a reseller so i have no idea what people are actually buying the
yeah and you know that completely ignores any in-kind discounts that you get as an educational
institution or whatever sfu wasn't able to tell me what they paid for them so we just
kind of used sure you know word on the street of pricing for them yep
they did say the total budget though it was 82 million canadian dollars so that's basically
all the money in canada so did they did they decommission cedar yeah they hit they actually
i couldn't quite tell if they were joking or not so i said no thanks i'm good but they offered to
just like hand me a node and like you know they were like need any ssds or i'm pretty sure they
were kidding but i didn't want to get anybody in trouble so i just i just said no and laughed along
and we didn't take anything out and they nothing left their facility everything's good everything's
chill but i'm pretty sure they were joking but no it was just pieces of cedar we're just sitting on
racks just i mean it was eight years ago what are they gonna do yeah no who's gonna want an
eight-year-old super computer i mean we talked about this on WAN Show remember when that like
used to be a top 10 super computer or whatever it was was for sale on ebay you remember that right
oh yeah and we we basically had so many people linked it to me we're like line is you should buy
a super computer and it's like not necessarily because while the processors and maybe the
memory might have some value those platforms are basically garbage because they cost more to run
than they're worth to run which is why they're being decommissioned because the new stuff is so
much more efficient that by the time you spend all that money on power you're way better off just
buying new stuff and powering that instead of running the older stuff uh yeah was it was it
Cheyenne was that it was that the one that was for sale i forget it was it was one of it was well
it was a major super computer super computer that might be the one yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah
Cheyenne super computer sold at auction for half a million dollars so i mean when this thing
would have been purchased it would have been a flip in fortune this is this is loading too slow
and i'm actually not that invested in anymore uh what are we supposed to be doing next Dan
you're a little early so you can keep doing more topics if you want uh we don't
have like a ton of topics this week so why don't we just let's go into merch messages then all right
those of you who are new to the WAN Show we don't do super chats we don't do twitch bits we do
merch messages because the way we see it when you throw your money at the screen you should
get something thrown right back in your face in this case high quality merchandise from
lttstore.com where are my callouts i don't see them cw announcements there they are oh
oh we have some very exciting things for you folks luke would you like to model it
oh yes we have more tall shirts whoa i don't know i can stand but i'm gonna go right out of frame
now you can look it fits now you can have a tall shirt in any color you want as long as it's black
or one of our new colors my hands are above my head my shirt my belly's not showing
wow got 11 it's amazing they're not just black shirts i know it's kind of a curse for me because
now i need to buy a bunch more shirts uh do you want to load up lttstore while i talk to you
yes it is up i'm done we have a new fall colors drop um in both long sleeve and short sleeve
and they are available in both regular and tall fit the lineup now includes stone that's all of
uh uh you'll find it there it is stone shadow and cranberry which is what luke's wearing so we can
help you keep your wardrobe fresh this fall our blank shirts are extremely well reviewed
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people who are shopping for the products and there's more the defrag sale is wrapping up and
stock is almost gone we've got crazy pricing do you want to pull it up on the hotdog v-neck
the maze screensaver party shirt he's looking for it he's going to find it i misclicked
i'm gonna click the arrow he's got this there we go the blank or the excuse me the blank the black
task jacket and dropout hoodies once they're gone they're gone uh friendly reminder wish i had
mentioned this last week um try to bundle these with something else because um as you can probably
tell no we are not making money on these at these kinds of discounts so that would be super cool
neat uh there's also like uh some of these don't have any stock left like i think the cpo pillow
is gone oh yeah yeah yeah but that does not mean that they're all out of stock some of them might
have just one size like he mentioned the task jacket that one just has a medium yeah but the
discounts are pretty nuts so it's decently worth checking through here seeing what ones are still
around all right uh what else we got and finally behind the seams feature we put out a behind the
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fit t-shirt in cranberry hey look at that then you can look just like luke and Jake bell Jake bell
is not tall why did he model these okay you know what it doesn't matter the point is uh we are live
so you just click i would like my purchase to appear as a merch message on the LTT stream
you just send your merch message and it'll go to producer Dan uh okay i'm wearing a shirt get out
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going to show you guys what that looks like Dan do you want to read us a curated message or two
yeah sure i've got a bunch here hey wanboys at Linus you and avon have loads of experience
building stuff and managing complex projects now would you ever consider building a house
maybe a holiday home or something one of the things that i've learned from all the experience
that i have with big projects is that every big project will contain so many stumbling blocks and
so many fun things to learn that just because you have a lot of experience managing projects
doesn't necessarily mean that all of a sudden you're an expert at everything and you should
just manage any kind of project if anything i would say the more experience i get the more i
realize that i don't know and the fewer things i can assume i mean let's look at whale land for
instance sure when we acquired that building for the badminton club and then also we wanted to do
quarterly gaming events i kind of went well it's got lots of space it's got lots of power
we work out a deal with the neighbors we get some parking in here everything should be fine
how long ago was that two years three two years i think it was two years okay it was two years
and we are the building two years ago oh easy i thought it's more than that uh
i oh i mean we might have like commercial real estate moves slow we might have like signed papers
way before i don't remember when we signed papers go because remember too it was only going to be
half the size and then by the time we actually made a video about it it was two sides yeah and a whole
we had to go tear up most of the blueprints and redo them and it was a whole it was a whole thing
anyway uh the point is that we are now a couple of years in and the first whale land is tomorrow
so oh yeah okay and homes you know look how long the home reno took and that's a reno
and to be clear there are a lot of things that would have gone faster with a ground up build
but there's also a lot of things that might not have and that we might have overlooked
dude when we were shopping for our current place oh wow we probably saw 40 50 properties
like during the course of the multiple years that we were shopping our poor realtor um we
tried to go to a lot of open houses and stuff so that we didn't have to like you know drag him out
but the point is we saw a lot of places and i think luke has actually been to the neighborhood
where evan and i saw a lot of places and um there's a lot of custom homes there
oh yeah a lot of a lot of well-intentioned and uh creative weird stuff creative first time
home designers um you know if it works perfectly for you and you live there forever yeah who cares
like i remember seeing this one place that was like i was like why isn't this selling it's huge
and it's priced so well like it's probably like 7 000 square feet or something and we get to it and
we realize oh this only has three bedrooms in it because they had two kids and they were like
well why would we need another bedroom that's all we need and that's great but
unless you have another small family that wants to live in like a mega-sized house that just has all
these like spaces that don't seem to have any purpose then good luck selling what about second
billiards room exactly it's we saw we saw it the one of the places that we saw had a ballroom in it
yeah which like sure i'm not kidding you're doing a lot of galas probably not no like if you're into
it not so much that's wonderful and i'm i'm happy for you but i do not um i do not i do not ballroom
or i well that depends are we talking like plastic orb's oh because then i'm super into it
anyway yeah so it was like this comically big house with just like like three bedrooms in it
and i was like okay yeah that doesn't really make a ton of sense so people don't tend to build what's
balanced they tend to build what works perfectly for them and i think we've seen enough of what's
perfectly designed for me to know that that probably wouldn't appeal to anyone else so building that
house would legitimately be a terrible idea unless i were to sort of temper my my specific needs
and build something that is better suited for the general populace in which case almost what's the
point why do i bother yeah i should just buy a house that's a professional design honey why is the
server room bigger than the living room to fit all the computers obviously okay what if you what if
you worked with an architect who i thought you're supposed to took just just vague ideas
and made you something cool i mean at that point though i mean i i i guess the main reason that
i wouldn't bother is that we already found a house that was damn close in terms of the bones
and then extensively modified it your place's layout is super cool and very unique my layout is
like perfect at this point never seen a place like that it's not it's not perfect but it's
it's perfect for me it's we we did change a lot but your needs and wants are going to change so
perfect is never really going to fit anyways dude my eldest is going to be like moved out in like five
years right sure crazy in this economy yeah i kind of doubt it depends on how well they go to school
where i don't know on campus i don't know renting with friends roommates yeah that's really expensive
these days so it depends on how much you're helping out that might be a commute that's a long commute
depends what school yeah that's fair enough sky train's coming out here that's right yeah that's
true that's true either way my point is it will legally be an adult in that time yeah like that's
mind blowing that's weird my sf u tour was eight years ago you know
when he was like this high time is flying i was talking about um at manufacturers say yeah the other
day because i was talking about like you know i think it's been three four years since we've made
one of those um uh three four years dude i thought that was the last one that came up when i looked
at it uh i mean you can check hold on we'll go look laptop here loop laptop rear create thanks
thanks laptop or any air laptop any air anyway four years ago oh okay all right
this has there been one since then i don't think so yeah so for you and it was probably years before
that one since we had looked at that series something i did find though is that hey look
i'm always the victim i'm never to blame that's good to know no no you gotta go higher is that new
oh no that's that one eight months ago hold on uh no that's not up there yeah that's a holy
but the actual like manufacturers say once they like always banged they did really well
basically every time um i was talking about that series in general like how it started with like
the Gigabyte black backplate thing oh yeah right all that chaos um and i i realized that the Gigabyte
backplate video is like ancient oh yeah it's like that was ten years ago yeah yeah yeah yeah
Gigabyte painted their backplates black or something to like help them they were copper
backplates were they oh right it was right over the GPU die and they said it would like cool they
said it would lower by three degrees i'm pretty sure yeah and the real thing was that their old
backplates were really bad so you could either have this copper backplate or just no backplate
and it would have been fine and it would have been fine right but having their old backplates
like increased the temperature so it was a benefit versus having their old bad one uh if i i think
that's how it was but you'd have to watch that old video and i think you'd have to watch the like
instagram video i think that we posted because they they they like called me their board called me at
like three in the morning or something i still have no idea how they got my phone number um
they have their v's yeah and then they they um they like push for me to take the video down and
we were just like no uh but but they were like okay we can have our engineers like correct your
information for you and i was like okay their engineers told us the like yeah it's versus our
old bad backplate versus nothing it's it's zero change this was like a technical marketing issue
so i brought that to their board and was like this is what your people told me and they were like
okay please post like an update and i was like you don't want me to do this and they're like no
please do it and i was like okay uh and then it was just bad yeah nice i don't know the whole
thing was weird uh it's probably reach out to manufacturers before we post the videos i think
we learned that bit um i mean we weren't even wrong on that one we're not gonna post it yeah
but i think we don't need to like jump scare people that's true they can at least know it's
coming that's true we do have a process now where the um the partnerships team gets the
schedule of what videos are coming so they can at least be like hey be ready yeah yeah which is
like you know we were gonna post it anyways yeah but like you know at least yeah i think the uh i
think the the the the the the sheet for it is like brand brand unsafe videos upcoming and they don't
they don't interfere with the editorial team but you know it's just nice for them to be
to be ready to prepare their inbox yeah yeah to receive an email they knew exactly what they're
doing all publicity is good publicity no as much as i slammed them i actually don't agree there was
there was people on that call that called me that had genuinely no idea at all what was happening
and they thought the claim was real they read it just the way that i did and assumed that it was
a real thing that they were claiming and they assumed that they were not lying someone saw this
data either misinterpret it or or construed it in some way and then that got through and got
published big companies stuff happens it turns out that when you have a thousand or ten thousand
or a hundred thousand people they are not all marching in lockstep yeah i'm like it just doesn't
work like that okay no it doesn't make it good no but what it does make it is not malicious it's
understandable most of the time sometimes it totally is sometimes it seems to be totally malicious
i don't know that this one was i i doubt it in my opinion i suspect someone on the technical
marketing team just didn't understand and just was like oh yeah i see number went up by three so
it goes up by three very good i mean you would be amazed how much of the marketing and sales
teams of even like very broadly speaking very technical companies don't know that much about
tech this is also i have also heard from many different people that work in the industry
that work on the products themselves yeah i've heard from them about being very frustrated
with the technical marketing teams and how they've taken certain claims and exaggerated them well
that's the thing is they're good at sales they're good at marketing they are not necessarily good
at tech and don't necessarily care about that because it has nothing to do with their kpis
and the reality of it is that you might say well then it's these companies fault for not
hiring more technical people to do sales and marketing but you gotta understand sales and
marketing have to talk to people i'll leave the rest of it unsaid yeah and again it doesn't make
it okay it doesn't make it good i just understand that's that's all and we and if we want to diagnose
the problem and if we want to find a way to move forward we have to understand these things because
it's our job to work in this industry you know forever
so it is what it is yep another one sure oh was that still a merch? yeah that was one
okay sure you made a computer including a case for the youtuber winter garden that's not really a
question he now needs a storage server for his external hard drive collection of all his work
you want to help it maybe and yes want your stickers um that was a super cool build i don't
know if you ever saw that one the wood pc it had the like working wooden gears
like motorized i think hold on yeah hold on it was it was pretty cool yeah the amazing wooden pc
yeah i remember that one yeah years ago that was awesome it was sponsored by solidworks
that's his that's not ours this is ours so we basically laser etched a thing and then we
we made these gears turn which was which was super cool um we haven't really done as much
hey we built a wild pc that was sort of like themed in this way i miss those i like those a lot
i think that's something that we could do more of what i was saying is it was something that
started to not perform as well i mean remember it kind of it kind of felt like it had a bit of a
a bit of a Ryzen popularity kind of like you know game themed modded pcs back in the day
like you'd go to trade shows and a booth like gskill for instance would be nothing but these
like wild like modded pcs and stuff like that and then people got kind of numb to it and videos
showcasing that kind of thing they they stopped really they stopped really enticing people and
where do you think that stopped because this is this is three years ago and it's more the
momentum youtube is funky man um youtube says three years ago i expand the description it's
almost four twenty twenty one yeah uh oh 23rd december 2021 yeah okay uh yeah it'll be four
years ago in december of this year yeah so anyway the point is that there's probably a lot of people
like hundreds of thousands of people out there that are like but i want to watch those videos i
would have watched the crap out of those videos um but that's the thing that people i think sometimes
lose track of or or don't realize is that when we're looking at the numbers we're looking at
aggregate numbers and not just individual numbers um and so it was really interesting over the last
couple of weeks as we dived into some of the inside baseball behind youtube's algorithmic
recommendations and how they do or don't register views uh you know when ad blocker is um is being
used and and we kind of we kind of talked about these things and um the big headline that a lot
of people who didn't look that deep into it or listen to what we were saying globed on too was
that LTT has fallen off right like that was kind of the takeaway for anyone who wanted that to be
the takeaway and i'll be the first to tell you guys that our viewership is not as high as it was
three years ago um but we also haven't fallen off completely either and that's not necessarily the
conclusion but that doesn't change that uh opinions are like assholes and many people had opinions
about you know what specific content it was of ours that was the reason that we had fallen off
whether it was because we were doing content that was bad or because we had stopped doing content
that was really good and uh one of the funniest ones for me was people on both sides saying
they build too many computers and i'm bored of it or on the other side going
they don't build enough computers anymore that's what i want to watch do you think it might have
been oversaturated and now it's cooled down we could hit it again and being equally certain
no i don't um build a pc as a genre is highly competitive because it's super easy to do and
it's um it's one where i feel like you we especially are inherently going to struggle with it because
there's almost nothing for us to say that we've never said before that was why we did build a
how to build a pc the last guy you'll ever need because what's the last one that you what's the
last like uh we did a pov one more recently because it had been quite a while and i felt
that we were due for an update because the first pov build guide and it really is the easiest one
to follow along with the amazing wooden pc it's not a build guide is it it's like a no that's no
no no that one's like it's like a build log yeah it's like yeah four four years ago so more recently
we did the um uh the acoustic baffle one was pretty cool the most like silent pc um
um we did i'd say we've taken the the idea and we've adapted a little bit so we did buy our
diy with the arcade cabinet in fact that's the thing that's behind me right here um that was
a cool build log like building a pc in a novel form factor we've just we've tried to add another
layer to it other than just we built a computer uh because they started to be pretty sluggish for us
um anyway like another one that that people are sort of quick to to diagnose as like the
the reason that we're you know we're falling off is because we need to do more of it or
because we need to do less of it is um oh man actually no i forgot i had it in my brain but
now i've forgotten and honestly it's probably boring anyway so why don't why don't we move on
we can do it do a new topic i forget what the question was did i ever actually answer it
oh could we do a nas uh huh man that's one where you can only build nazis so many times um
if he reaches out and kind of you know lays out what he needs and if we can come up with a unique
idea um you know make it so like if a hard drive fails it drops a marble in his machine
that'd be kind of cool um you could totally do that we have a lot of projects right now
so i'm not in a position where i could say like oh yeah we could like we could execute that on
we could execute on that in like a super reasonable amount of time so i don't want to commit anything
but anything's possible um in the case of that pc we had a really good sponsor that was super
adjacent to what we were doing so sometimes it can rely on that because these can be really big
projects um and sometimes you know we can't get all the hardware so we can't just go building like
multi thousand dollar like nazis for people just out of our own pocket for no reason other than
because they asked us for one necessarily uh that's one of the reasons that we'll you know we'll go
and we'll bring in a sponsor or something like that and try to make it you know wins for everyone
win for the sponsor win for our channel win for the audience they really enjoyed the content
win for the other creator who gets you know hooked up with this stuff we try to we try to
stack double use as much as we can oh yeah right i remember what the other genre was really expensive
stuff it it is hilarious watching the the community broadly not agree on whether we
should cover like outlandishly expensive stuff i don't think they ever have they never have
and never will yeah every single video we upload that's like here i am unboxing the world's biggest
tv or here's a 30 thousand dollar GPU it's gonna have it's gonna have some comment thread under
it that's people that is people discussing how i remember when LTT used to be it reasonably priced
stuff for reasonable folks it never was ever it never ever ever ever was and i don't but it always
was and it always will be like how about this one four tech youtubers were challenged to build
the best thousand dollar gaming pc that was a month ago um here's a review of a mid-range GPU
you know you know here's scrapyard wars where we literally are trying to get the best deals
that's the entire premise of it um so it's always been here's make your GPU faster for seven dollars
it's always been both and this is gonna blow your mind you can watch the videos that appeal to you
i know i know it's wild it's wild i don't know if i don't watch every single one i get the shakes
i do think you kind of miss out i think that i think that the team does an incredible job of
making sure that there's fun and educational bits in pretty much everything we upload i'm only
hedging because there's gotta have been something at some point the content's so dense these days
there's so much stuff going on every video is like 20 minutes and it's like 20 edited down minutes
yeah i don't know how we used to do a 10 minute video anymore
like maybe maybe that's something that we should explore like do a 10 minute video once in a while
yeah but like okay can you imagine okay did you watch the one on the giant um display volume
yes okay what could we have cut out i do that in 10 minutes how could we have cut 11 minutes out
of that i almost wanted to see more and i'm not even like we did cut out a bunch yeah i'm sure
like we we had to be we had to aggressively cut that down it's such a cool video like i i remember
this this video nine years ago oh my god uh this video yeah i thought was incredibly long at 16 i
gave you it because i was like this script is too long buddy no one ain't nobody got a
tangent span for that yeah and now we regularly release like 20 to 30 minute when is the last
time we had a 16 minute video not yesterday's not this rog rig reboot that's 23 minutes weirdest
parts on aliexpress 19 minutes 19 minutes 29 minutes 21 minutes 16 minutes there we have to go back
to the bose sound cannon acoustic wave cannon that one's still longer because mine is 16 19
that was 16 24 so uh summarizing an apple event we managed to make that shorter one iphone announcement
but there's i don't know there's just people i i don't know how to address that because
if we say more people get bored and if we say less people feel like it's incomplete
and maybe maybe maybe that's maybe that's partly on us like maybe we just need to be like okay yeah
we're just not going to include everything maybe we should go back to shorter videos it's something
we've talked about oh here we go because it's very burdensome on the editors it's burdensome on the
writing department the only other one i did in that series eight minutes 31 seconds yeah
yeah i remember when i when i had my like Floatplane weeks we do these things on float
plane where we'll pick like a person and you make three pieces of content and it's it's a week
dedicated to like your pieces of content yeah i made a video in there that was like about uh the
state of the video game industry and it was like four and a half minutes or something but i mean
there's no ads i kick right into it there's no need for like an intro and outro or anything
there's no appetizer so i just go straight into the topic and talk about it i got everything i needed
to say in it ended up being like very true with how things have been going on
and people were pissed because it wasn't longer i was just saying i remember reading the comments
used to make videos like if you if you add in like ad spot beginning and an intro a longer outro
like all that stuff that you normally have that's probably about the length of this yeah what is
going on with that's like maybe like 50 to 70 seconds of bloat just from kind of adding all
that stuff yeah but no now it's it's 20 plus long minute videos wild it's crazy
Dan what are we supposed to be doing that's got a couple more topics in there heck yeah google
reveals its Android pc coming in 2026 back in july of 2025 okay so this so two months ago
google's Android president samir sumat confirmed in a tech radar interview that they will be
combining chromo s and Android into a single platform the interview was very broad and not
chromo s focused but sumat did mention he was very interested in laptop productivity
and they are combining Android and chromo s all right fast forward to qualcomm's snapdragon summit
24th 2025 so two days ago so matt says they're committed to the chromo s platform
does that mean older chromo s systems will still receive support hasn't been confirmed
so matt also stated that Android tablets have shown to be a productivity machine and a success for
them so basically we can't believe anything he says i okay that's really interesting because
i read these notes before the show i read that one line and i had that exact word for word reaction
of just like none of this matters anymore that's obviously a lie
interesting yeah does he is he thinking of ipads
yeah pretty much i mean Android tablets exist but like they seem to be like sign-up giveaways
you know what i mean like they're not really no they're expensive dude no i only know this because
i was trying to remember when we used to use a big Android tablet for our teleprompter yeah
and i was trying to buy new ones and i was like oh my god i'm not spending five six hundred dollars
on an Android tablet this is ridiculous and i had to go find some ancient honeycomb thing that was
like someone was selling used and it was it was a really weird deal for some reason like i think
it turned out like they knew me when i got it doesn't matter the point is that like i got another
old like tegra 2 tablets and oh boy and we had i had to figure out how to like install a new os on
it i had to do some like adb like yeah it was a whole thing because i didn't want to spend more than
like a couple hundred bucks on an Android tablet because they're not worth that to me so but to
be clear there are very cheap Android tablets yeah but they're really crappy oh yeah so i wanted
something that was in that middle ground of like being decent because i was gonna use it for a
teleprompter i needed the screen to be good and i needed the right you know performance to be okay
and stuff i needed to be reliable um but also and i needed to be big of course it doesn't need to be
that great but i need to be reliable i wanted a 10 inch tablet and there was like nothing in that
class this is years ago though uh there was nothing in that size class that was like reasonably
priced um and so i was just i was blown away by how expensive Android tablets are and they still
are like if you want to buy a samsung or something they're not cheap yeah i mean i didn't even
like this is 800 bucks i do wonder if in other markets they're doing okay like how many reviews
are there for that uh 126 okay so they're clearly selling some i'm fairly certain best buy reviews
are unified i think it's both sites oh so and maybe in other markets they're doing really great oh
okay so they've aggregated reviews from lord only knows where yeah interesting these are
like all that way okay cute um okay that's weird they also and this is where your eyes might really
roll completely out of their sockets um they specifically want to bring the advancements
with ai on Android to chrome os
neat the solution then google is combining Android and chrome os to make a new os for pc's
the baseline of Android for for pc's will be Android as a base with the chrome os experience
on top of it this appears to be a collaborative effort between google qualcomm and other partners
that weren't mentioned the senior vp of a senior vp of google announced they specifically want to
bring their ai stack and development into the pc domain so Android can serve everyone in every
computing category since they've already been available for smart home and auto devices personal
computing has been a gap for them blah blah blah blah blah not much more has been revealed about
their plans at the moment and the latest announcement was more of a tease but it does seem that google
has been working to improve Android with Linux apps the future for chrome os devices hasn't
been explicitly covered but google's policy is 10 years of updates so i'm going to hold them to that
because i just bought a chromebook and Android authority mentioned that GPU acceleration has
been slyly added to andre's Linux terminal app it doesn't work yet but it does show that they're
looking to improve performance google stated the end goal is to create an Android ecosystem that
works seamlessly across devices well good luck google hopefully you don't abandon it
uh before you minimize that i threw some stuff at the bottom i don't necessarily think i saw
these in the doc but i think they're super new so i don't i'm not blaming the doc writers to be
clear um do you know about the new facebook thing no facebook what is it called short chat will
tell us they're making a new feed that is just a feed of people's like ai generated like mood
videos it sounds like the dumbest thing in the world uh the saddest part is like super smart
people work at meta they could be doing anything they could be they could be building the future
yeah it's called so it's called facebook meta vibes ai okay are you ready to screen share
ai hold on one sec tech cruncher we'll go with that sure go for it there we go meta launches
vibes a short form video feed of ai slop and yeah and a move no one asked for a meta is
introducing vibes a new feed in the meta ai app and on meta dot ai for sharing and creating
short form ai generated videos that's it who wants this
why so that you can just aimlessly doom scroll even more
but it's just like trash i mean like someone a full plane chat was like remember that two
week period when luke was all excited about ai stuff i am still quite interested in ai stuff
but you don't want to watch this but like the direction of almost every corporation
in how they're handling with it is just so uninteresting um like i i think it's called like
friend dot com or something oh boy oh boy have you heard of that i unboxed it oh
if you enjoy Linus gets mad about how utterly pointless and wasteful something is
tune in to ShortCircuit where i unboxed oh no i i literally i had it oh i just closed it oh
wow did i man i looked at his time it was crazy and clicked it and it was gone i unboxed my friend
i named it riley
i prefer the real riley yeah yeah yeah is this old uh it's old the the trailer there is old
yeah this went viral way back but we they actually shipped us one now okay god i was gonna say
they did like an ad takeover yeah yeah yeah uh someone they didn't add takeover the new york
subway bell has actually been wearing it since the ShortCircuit because he was like maybe Linus
was too mean i should use it a bit more and make sure that it's actually as worthless and pointless
as he made it out to be and he came he came back to me a few days later and he's like hey
so it's just as bad as you thought maybe worse yeah it's so bad it's terrifying it's the amount of
like man there's always the like utopian view of like this will help us do less
meal garbage work and will will free the common person and allow us to do artistic pursuits
or there's the late stage capitalism view where it's like it will create meaningless garbage work
how about how about you scroll infinitely with the hand motion that is addicted through
just the sloppiest crappiest ai junk ever forever and see what happens
oh like that's not what i want that's not interesting and i i i i feel like i knew this
was coming and there is interesting stuff happening in the space oh it's just not this
and it's also not um what is it called the opening i pulse oh boy i think both of these
were announced today so i'm not i'm not blaming the uh the doc writing team they are they are new
no this is not new okay either way um all right i'm on your screen chat gpt pulse what is this now
jet gpt pulse it essentially um let's see if they say it out loud here to reach your goals yeah
what does that mean uh so you tell it like goals or like things that you want and it will
work on it in quotes even when you're not like using it what does that even mean
i think the thing that they would like you to think is that something like your badminton thing
when it was like i'll go work on that and then get back to you is that it's going to do that
oh it'll like churn away on large tasks in the background or something i think that might be
what they would like you to think i haven't read this whole thing i'm just being honest
so i might miss parts of it um let's see if they show
when you're traveling what is your preference this helps us shape somewhere one of kind of
experiences blah blah blah it'll research something for you what it was even so i think
there was like a sam altman tweet um so basically they just want you to feed more personal data into
it um like am i missing something here the thing that i suspect other people are picking up on as
well is this is almost certainly going to be an ad engine well yeah so they can find like a bunch
of people that have certain desires and then sell ads against those desires right uh that is like
for sure what's going on right so basically they just want some time to go sell it here we go
between when you tell them that i'm interested in traveling and when it gives you a response
this this part right here oh man
i perform super well if you tell chat gpt more about what's important to you in regular chat
you could mention i'd like to visit borah borah someday or my kid is six months old and i'm interested
in developmental milestones and in the future you might get useful updates also known as to me
ads ads you might get useful ads in the future um and you know i'm sure they'll use it for other
things first so that people feel really disarmed about it and then later on they'll just start
trickling it in a little bit over time i mean elon said that out loud when uh yeah when croc
fun handyman linked this what fantastic timing nice
yeah so like i i'm like rather the second i read this i was just like
if it said you know i'd like to visit borah borah someday you could say that to it and it could
definitely be helpful immediately there is no reason for it to be helpful in the future
my kid is six months old i'm interested in developmental milestones it could definitely
tell you some of those now right now there is no reason that it should wait and tell you
them later unless there's some product that it could advertise to you potentially at a more
at a time that it thinks you might be more likely to buy it like if it realizes you're
online at two in the morning or something when people's people's ability to resist buying things
is a little bit lower or it'll hit you with it knows your kid six months old today then it knows
that your kid is two years old in two uh 18 months that's maybe you need this other product
maybe you need shoes or maybe yeah whatever yeah because giving it a desire does not mean that it
is only going to attempt to fulfill that one desire cyber excitation says it's like people
watched walley and thought it was something to aspire to rather than a warning yeah
oh man awney hikage says and this is a really good point spreading out interactions with
an app over time also makes it more addictive so it's a jedi mind trick as well i added the jedi
part that absolutely makes sense it'll you will tell me your desires
brilliant to see a fab what are you gonna do about it i'm already going oh are we talking
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crying out loudly i didn't say which one okay well he's going somewhere fabulous why don't we
leave it there next week um freaking guy i didn't say which one okay i just don't know if it's a
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i don't think i don't think i was late that time what the heck there was quite a few on times yeah
there have been a lot of on time yeah because i was the only one who was actually not i'm not i
was the only one there were other people working the friday afternoon sometimes yeah um we had
scrapyard wars going so i know that hoffman was often definitely here working on stuff and then
david got kind of dunked on because we had the chromebook video that we had to shoot together
and then he was also scrapyard warzing there's Labs people in there's some it people a lot of people
had fridays off for the latter part of the summer um just as kind of like uh hey wouldn't it be cool
fridays were off so it's amazing how easy it is for me to be on time for WAN Show when nobody's
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oh this redditor yevel nad shared a surefire solution for low when viewership
we just need to do oh come on we just need to look more like this which we can do like this
why were you looking here look here i i think this is not real time i'm pretty sure it's not real
time um i mean it wouldn't need to be completely real time i mean we're already like 300 milliseconds
like this is this is wan 2.2 a funny enough it's called wan this is wan 2.2 animate i think and i
don't think that's real time oh i don't know a ton about this i mean it money man says yeah
is it it might be i thought i thought wan only did five seconds not like WAN Show is live
we could we could do five seconds would be fine yeah but i mean like we could easily have a delay
and that's it like streamers and then you have to render that like it's trained on five seconds
oh got it okay don't believe it's live isn't that video more than five seconds because like i think
so like character replacement has been a thing for like longer yeah yeah yeah anyway the brilliant
plan is to turn everyone on when into photorealistic ai thirst traps turn everyone on personally
i think it's a great idea uh great yuzuki posted a handy comparison of face swapping tools
there we go um got it so uh pricing model subscription 19 a month web based private
generation uh oh oh boy you know what let's navigate away from that we should i don't i didn't
see it yeah don't worry about it we should uh we should do we should take pictures of us
from like our videos or whatever we have both i don't know 10 years ago and just do that so
it's still us also apparently this is possibly fake because there appears to be a real motion blur
so they might have just you know staged that either way i have pretty mimicable i have seen
very very there's crazy ones there's absolutely wild ones like where they're where the software
like drops for a second and then like goes back up uh and their actual streamers um
luke didn't you send me a video ages ago about like the webcam one it was like a real time thing
the guy was sitting at his desk and wasn't actually sitting there but it was him insomniac
says that it's a fork of face rig apparently real-time manipulation who knows it's just like
vtuber at that point yep yeah pretty wild man anyway i just thought it was i basically thought it
was funny so that was it yeah oh man why is everything ai news let's find something else
oh this is fun okay man i we're gonna talk about the chevy volt again nice because the chevy volt
is a practical car for cool practical people and i was always frustrated back when i got mine and
back when i did my video and back when i talked about that car how people just didn't seem to get
it they didn't seem to get plug-in hybrid vehicles and how they were just like this incredible
like perfect marriage of the best things about an eevee and the best things about a gas car
with admittedly some of the downsides of both as well but really the best of both because
you get the you get the economics of building them because you don't have to fill them with
all the fuel they will ever need forever you just put a small battery in them that realistically
covers most of your daily commuting and you get the benefits of a gas car in that if you are going
somewhere far you just put gas in it and go you don't have to think about range anxiety
so i did most of my driving on full electric with that car i'd fill up the gas tank freaking like
i don't know once every four to eight weeks or something like that like i hardly used gas
and it was awesome and i was i was shocked when i talked to a guy who worked at the chevy dealer
who was like yeah i had a guy trade one in who literally like didn't even realize that you had
to plug it in and that just it just blew me away and it was a super efficient gas-powered vehicle
it's one of the most unfortunate things with automotives that i've
been paying attention automotives for because hybrids came out first and then plug-in hybrids
came out after and people had no idea what it was they didn't understand it we to we you thing
yeah it basically happened but with cars so buddy just drove his volt for years and never
plugged it in once yeah which is not the end of the world because because it doesn't have a super
heavy battery in it it's still a super efficient gas vehicle but like oh my god if you just plugged
it into your garage every night you'd save a flipping fortune living here in bc where electricity is
so cheap very cheap here anyway toyota came across this same unsettling piece of information
that people are not charging their plug plug-in hybrid electric vehicles and they came up with
the charge minder app they're gonna gamify it it delivers push notifications at key moments
like when you arrive at home or other user-defined charging places these notifications apparently
increased charging by 10 compared to a control group they also increased driver satisfaction
by 16 percentage points because da who wouldn't be satisfied by driving for cheaper a lot of the
time yeah the gamification aspect includes positive reinforcement like attaining charging
streaks and charging habit summaries you know what they should our discussion question here is
plug-in hybrid electric vehicles cost thousands of dollars more than regular hybrid cars if people
aren't buying them or if people aren't plugging them in why are they spending the extra money
and then this is from nick ploof he goes i paid extra for prime for a prime so not amazon prime
for a toyota prime because i can plug it in yeah yes that's because you are a smart person who owns
a display allegedly allegedly allegedly they're not going to watch this anyways i'll just say it
i think there's ways that they could probably end up making money off this as well uh what's
wrong with you yeah shut up luke they're not gonna listen to this is fine um but they could they
could see the places that you're plugging in that aren't at home
stop talking yeah sounds good uh next topic spam gpt i don't think we can get away they're all ai
topics let's do spam gpt uh okay they're not all ai topics but yeah we'll do this one first hit me
spam gpt is a new ai powered email attack automation kit being found on people are mad
being found on underground forums and the dark web in a blog posted earlier this month cyber
security firm veronis calls spam gpt an enterprise marketing platform weaponized for spam and says
what used to require a team of skilled developers can now be accomplished by a single bad actor
with a five thousand dollar toolkit and it's spam as a service which i would kind of hope for
considering its name uh the platform enables attackers to design schedule and monitor large
scale spam and phishing operations with minimal technical expertise spam gpt offers a straightforward
GUI and detailed documentation and incorporates generative ai to create convincing spam campaigns
tutorials teach users smtp cracking mastery and techniques for spoofing trusted brands
and domains spam gpt engineers bulk email to slip through spam filters and land in your inbox
which honestly kind of makes me want to buy it because we have trouble with that sometimes
and we're sending legitimate email it's like if the if the bad actors can figure it out
why am i getting gated anyway carry on by by combining these features with campaign analytics
isn't this is this scary or what it's actually wild it's mail chimp but for like ne'er do wells
the funny thing is because it's a i'm assuming it seems like it's a one-time payment of five
thousand dollars this might be just a cheaper way for people to get like ad campaign management
because the multi just terrible ideas today oh my god the multi user subscription model
a lot of these platforms run on is really expensive and really annoying so if it is just a one-time
buy it might be a pretty attractive option for like legitimate this is the worst timeline ever
ah anyways okay someone's gonna someone's gonna buy it and repackage it is like a
i'm messaging conran right now it's gonna pay the bills baby yeah let's go uh keep the lights on
with spam with with with legitimate marketing activities yes um based on your chat chat gpt
history all right by combining these features with campaign analytics spam gpt offers everything
you defined in a legitimate marketing crm this is what i was talking about before but explicitly
designed for malicious use domain owners are advertised to strengthen email authentication
with d mark cool spf there are big groups that don't have things like this running and dkm to
prevent spoofed domains and to deploy ai powered tools to detect phishing emails generated by
large language models oof uh another more different spam gpt is a set of python scripts
created by github uber github user stavros stavros chorokithakis hopefully that was
pretty all right uh this spam gpt uses sorry this spam gpt uses chat gpt to send realistic
replies to spam emails wasting as much of the time as possible by playing along and pretending to do
whatever the scammer is asking for while insisting that any problems are on the scammer side oh my
god stavros commented on hacker news saying it was a bit of fun until i realized that most of the
replied most of the replies for the spammers were ai as well oh so we were just automatically
spamming each other while open ai made money i stopped using it that's makes so much sense and
is like for sure true and real um what is it dead internet theory yeah like it's just bots talking
to bots i mean it is actually just a dead internet theory it's just like real to a certain degree
like there there is an incredible amount of just bot traffic these days obviously there's also like
a never seen before percentage of the world that is online and like actually on the internet yes
but there is also such a rate of increasing levels of bot traffic that it's like the chance
that what you're running into is bot traffic is actually incredibly high
and this is great gilmore d and float plain chat says it's like two furbies just babbling at each
other discussion question is direct human interaction with the internet dying yeah
yeah i think we can just move on in a lot of ways it really is what should Linus ask Linus
elijah posted a thread on the LTT subreddit where you can submit questions for our upcoming collab
with Linus torvolds don't miss it now is a great opportunity for you to go post on there or upvote
anything that you would like to see us discuss with him there's no guarantees that we will get
to everything but it could be some nice jumping off points for conversations with the og tech
Linus when he comes up here for our hopefully if nothing else goes wrong there will be no hard
feelings if anything you know does come up but we seem to be as far as i can tell confirmed
i'm so excited um yeah so um i forget where i was going with that the point is
i think it's happening i hope it's happening i'm pretty sure it's happening and if it does
what do you want us to talk to him about that was it just want to make sure people are aware
and then do a little sort of kind of chat with you guys about google messages google's messaging app
the default you use a pixel right so your sms app can you think of another modern text communication
platform other than google messages i know where you're going that doesn't support f***ing cloud
sync yep that's where he's going no it's honestly going on it's honestly one of the only default
apps that i feel like you like need to get something else for like it's wild to me and it's
it's interesting like how much further ahead it feels like i messages oh dude look when apple
people tell me yeah i use an iphone because like i message is so great i i roll my eyes because i
message is nothing special but if the only other thing they'd ever tried was google messages then
dang i get it i can see why they would think that i messages god's gift to people who send messages
on their phone because wow is google messages it like i just i hadn't tried to migrate text messages
in a while because i was using my note nine for a super long time and then i only recently started
like like switching phones a lot again and so on my note and on my folds i was using samsung's
messages app which also i think actually has synchronous don't quote me on that i don't know
how good the synchronization is on samsung's but the point is that i used like an import wizard
and so it it wasn't really a problem until i started swapping between google phones like the
pixel and graphino s and there was uh there was something else that i was i think it was a one
plus i was using for a little while and i kind of went oh crap i'm like losing track of a lot of my
sms messages and it's not always convenient for me to completely migrate because i might have
two-factor authentication or like the unify identity apps so that i have you know door access
at smashchamps or whatever else i might still have that on my on my secondary phone or i might be
using a phone for a little while knowing that i'm going to go back to my other one and the only way
to migrate back is to wipe the original one and then do the full migration and it just kind of
struck me i was like yeah how the heck does this not have closet literally google that you're you're
that's the like the whole thing you're trying to sell me go to drive it's like google one and
google drive and like all this stuff and it's been especially inconvenient so i still am not switched
over to the uh the iphone air even though i'm trying to because apple's migration also is broken
oh seriously check this out i usually hear very good things about okay because i've got an entire
page of notes on my next i switched to apple about what an absolute cluster fuck the migration
process i have an idea for for an alinas i switched by the way oh really i don't know if you're
gonna like it but i'll pitch it when we're done here uh hold on collections on this device
screenshot why are that what the hell is this um
um where did i sync this to you know what these are pictures i took on my old iphone 12 pro
because i couldn't um because both my pixel and my iphone were linked with a cable and displaying
various states of sure of the transfer yeah so in order to document this i i yeah i had to i had
to put it somewhere else so where where did i put it i don't i don't think i put it on google drive
bloody hell where did i put it oh you know what i think i can find it basically out of
like 15 000 text messages or something it managed to transfer to and this is one of the things that
i often go off about with apple's software design and the reason for it is that as someone who uses
a lot of devices and switches devices a lot and uses a lot of different kinds of apps and needs
interoperability and and has high expectations for a trillion yes with a t dollar company
i run up against it a lot is apple's design philosophy is it just works the problem is that
when it doesn't it's just works it just works is baked in as an expectation so when it doesn't
they often do not have the safeguards and backup plans that are baked into other platforms
so it's like probably one of the best examples i have of this is when apple removed the restart
function yeah this they used to have two sliders one to shut down one to restart
but it's an iphone it should never need to be turned off and turned back on
and i really i don't know this for sure but there is literally no other reason that i can think of
why they would have removed it because it was and continues to be a very useful tool in fact
i contacted apple support and it's one of the first things they asked me to do
was restart my iphone so just give me the f***ing button to restart it
why do i have to touch it twice i don't understand another one was uh this was back
with my oldness is like 10 years ago so i don't even know if this is still true but when i did
my i switched on mac and finder didn't have a refresh well it should just refresh
right but when it doesn't what do i do well you go f*** yourself is what you do
that's your only real option so in this case with the transfer tool so i'm using the uh what's
it what's it called it's an Android app move to iOS i'm using the move to iOS app from from apple and
hold on a second yeah here we go i'm just gonna make sure that i'm not just
an idiot and i'm using like a third party tool or something because i'm pretty darn sure that it's
first party apple but i'd hate to accidentally upset apple people again by if i'm actually
wrong i don't mind upsetting them if uh if what i'm saying is accurate yes it's just developed by
apple so i'm using the move to iOS app and once again in classic apple fashion when only two of
your 15 000 text messages transfer there's no retry button oh there's no there's no
do it again button oh that's annoying so the instructions from apple support who were
spectacularly unhelpful start from beginning again i'm assuming was to re-wipe the iphone and
try again yeah and i said well okay what are we changing this time that would result in a different
outcome nothing and they go oh well your internet might have caused an issue and i said i told you
already earlier in this chat that i was connected with a cable what makes you think that my internet
played a role in the failure of this what are we changing what are we doing differently because
what happened was my whatsapp messages did transfer so i'm no longer signed into whatsapp
and i could do a whole separate rant about whatsapp and how that too is a modern communications
platform that for whatever reason does allow multiple sign-in across devices but not two phones
no never two phones so i have to transfer and you have to transfer whatsapp when you are doing
like the new phone setup too it drives me absolutely bananas so my whatsapp did transfer
over to the iphone but my text messages are here and i've had some bad experiences with whatsapp
with whatsapp's backup and restore even when i explicitly click backup verify that it's
backed up in the last one minute and then i restore it i'll be missing like a week of messages
sometimes and it's really frustrating i don't like that i don't like not having my communication
history and like it's it's legitimately caused problems for me sometimes you remember that
stupid scandal where someone accused me of something and i didn't have my wechat history
because i had like switched phones and didn't realize that it was like not cloud synced in any
way it ended up being fine because they were caught in like multiple other lies that basically
were like yeah just dismissing everything basically yeah so that was really useful of them to just
like completely fuck themselves like that um but i didn't i didn't have the dms which was
super inconvenient for me i don't like losing dms um so i am in a situation right now where my iphone
contains my whatsapp messages and my Android phone contains my sms messages there's no cloud sync
for sms they're asking me to wipe the iphone which i don't know maybe i will get all my whatsapp
history back maybe all of the messages will transfer this time the whole experience just sucks
so google so in order google cloud sync for messages what the fuck is wrong with you it's
another opportunity for you to sell more cloud storage like it should be pretty easy like now
like just do it tomorrow yeah what are you waiting for it should be pretty easy number two
what's up hey just let me sign in across multiple devices like you know basically everything
like what are you doing number three apple retry buttons you don't need to be allergic to them
it's okay it's a lot better than starting the whole process all over again i understand i understand
that you don't want it cluttering up your beautiful software whatever the philosophy leads to you not
having them i i i no i don't understand i think it's stupid but it doesn't matter the point is you
can keep doing that how about only show me the retry button if i need it that way it doesn't have
to be there like by default but you don't mind showing me a little some part of it failed yeah you
don't mind showing me a triangle with an exclamation mark i backed up two of your messages thanks for
f***ing nothing if i click that it should let me retry thank you that's all i'm asking for
one whatsapp account now across multiple phones where where uh linked from handyman is that a
thing how did why did it sign me out then 2023 last year we introduced the ability for users
globally message seamlessly across all the devices while making this seem lower present
oh today we're improving our wealthy device offering by introducing the ability to use the
same whatsapp account on multiple phones hold on i didn't even i didn't even try to sign back in here
so recently i ran into a really stupid thing with whatsapp where i was like trying to use a qr
code to do the thing and i couldn't scan the qr code and then it just didn't transfer properly
and then i was really annoyed linking phones as companion devices makes messaging easier
now you can switch between phones without signing out and pick up your chats where you left off
so okay okay i know i think this might be i think this might be solved if you just signed back in
i suspect you're signed out on your other one because you have to you have to link it as a
companion device okay uh well either way i'm way happier with this than things were before
like i was a man i was super annoyed when i ran into that issue where it made me do the qr
code thing to transfer them and then it like i couldn't scan it because the camera on the phone
that i was switching to or from i can't remember was like too crappy to scan the qr code and couldn't
handle the because it it turns it up to maximum brightness so there was a second before it would
turn to maximum brightness where it would like be trying to scan it and it then it would like start
to focus properly and then it would crank to maximum brightness and then it wouldn't be able to do it
and then it ended up not working and then i ended up losing a bunch of my messages so freaking
frustrating i think you're getting progressively less and less excited for the idea that i might
have for you oh what is it signal or like what what are we talking about no you do these i switched
things yeah but the feedback every time is that you're not like really an apple user so by not
being you know marinated in the the apple sauce you you don't it means the feedback from outside
parties yes yeah not my feedback no you you you don't have i am an apple user i just don't use
enough apple for apples liking i use these every day these are twos by the way
i use yeah i have my own rant about the air pod force but um
so i'm not in the sauce enough what if what if okay you did a year a year and what if what if
what if what if maybe it wasn't even just an iphone like you want me to go full mac for a year
i think you could do everything except a desktop and i think that would be fair because i think
a lot of mac people probably aren't into the whole dedicated desktop thing anyways
and if they had one it might be for for games and i think you could say like i'm i'm a streamer boy
therefore i need a Windows desktop and you can have everything else and that is like a thing that
is a mac user archetype that is common i think that's fine so what if you did iphone watch
air pods ipad macbook for a year the hell would it do with an ipad i don't know just
giving you options i can't figure out what anybody does with an ipad i don't fully watch
netflix i think sure i mean you know what that's valid i just for me it's like it's this no man's
land device like it's big and cumbersome enough that if i'm going to use it i might as well just
get a laptop and it's it's not even that limited anymore like it used to be really limited but
just like most of what i would need to do part of the idea why already on my phone so we're saying
ipad mini at that point why not just use your phone i don't know part of the reason why i included
in there was because then you're like fully in the ecosystem right the laptop can count as any form
of computer and then you have all the other apple things basically i don't think i missed anything
so yeah you are you are deep in the in the walled garden i will think about it all right i'll think
about it i just could do update videos along the way i like i like just be you know what it's like
at least four videos out there i haven't even i don't even think i'll be able to because all the
updates i did a switch to mac not that long ago and after the first like a week there's just there
was stuff that was annoying but mostly it wasn't impeding my ability to get work done it was just
i don't want it i want it to not impede your ability to get work done but that's the thing is i don't
think i'm going to be able to do updates for a year because within a week of using any of those
devices i'll be able to use them there will just be things that i don't like and some of it is just
philosophical differences that i have with apple like stuff like the not having a retry
i don't i don't like that i don't agree with that and no amount of no amount of me using it
is going to change that fundamentally i disagree with the assumption that something is going to
work and not having a failback i disagree with that because i have lived in the real world for
long enough that i know that it doesn't work like that even for your product specifically apple
it just doesn't it doesn't work like that and i do have my i do have my picture up so i'm just
going to try to find the the right one here okay so yeah there's the very okay so my first picture
i took was at the top of the stairs of the code on the iphone um and my move to iOS app not picking
it up even though they are both on the same wi-fi okay so that didn't work so i went and got a cable
oh that's a video just of the same thing uh okay that's the same thing hold on a second then i got
a picture because you know i never know if i'll need these pictures for the video so then i got a
picture of it transferring so it started transferring cable yeah lttstore.com soon soon the cables are
coming dude i'm so excited they're awesome okay then i got a video of that apparently just trying
to be thorough i'm trying to be thorough you know so our editors have stuff to cut away too then the
next one i got um i think i it had an eta oh no here we go transfer complete transfer complete my ass
so uh here why don't i send this to Dan i think i'm signed into teams here uh who knows am i signed
into teams uh oh my god this is so laggy make sure that you click remember me and then it won't
happen again yeah sure oh this is so this is so laggy i'm dying oh my god we can't both antagonize
him Dan or you don't want to tag team i'm okay oh that's a weird way to put that oh oh wait it's
not after dark cat never mind keep your pants on jeez you guys okay i'll send this to Dan
so this is hilarious if i didn't pay close attention i could easily think Dan do you
want to throw that up there uh sure it's a gi c so i might have to do something fun with
yeah i'm gonna have to like pre-convert that sorry serenity now so i could easily easily
miss this because on the Android side again this is in apple software apple ink made this move to
iOS app on the on the Android side it says everything's great successfully transferred
and then you notice oh hold on a second there's little yellow exclamation marks everything is
not okay on the iOS side and it's not just a little bit not okay it's brutally not okay
Dan how close are you because that that was all the stalling i had uh yeah i'm good there you go
nice there it is so i had to click into this so i had to click into this so if i have to click
into it just give me a retry button they're still connected oh this was another funny thing
so both of them had a message on them warning me to keep them connected to power while the transfer
was running how the f*** am i supposed to do that the phones are plugged into each other yet numpties
it knows i'm using a cable uh magsafe okay yes got him got him i could have two wireless chargers
one for each phone but like come on you know like come on man
in fairness to me luke that is in my notes
i did think of it but that is a spectacularly stupid solution sure yeah dang that's great
solved it by connecting a cable yes technically having two wireless charging pads next to each
other while they're plugged in would be an option but who realistically has a setup like that yeah
i am aware that it could be done
but that is so obtuse so it's so frustrating and i'm clearly not the only one upset about it
i found this on discussions.apple.com this has uh hold on a second let me check
move to iOS app transfer error solutions this was started uh let me see in 2021
this has been a problem for four years at least the me twos on this are 1664 of people being like
yep me too and there doesn't seem to be any real solution apple's tech support was so useless
like so useless i talked to one i asked to be escalated they it just unceremoniously on the hour
transferred me to someone new who hadn't read my case i guess their shift was just over and they were
like see ya nice then i asked them to be transferred to a level two tech they said hey level two is
closed right now because it was late at night can i schedule a call back they called me back
the next morning i was talking to level f***ing one again nice that's good i like that like i just
i get it apple's your favorite company if your customers are so upset from dealing with your
customer support that they hang up and stop trying on your cheapest level then you save money
on your more expensive level of support yeah so i get that you love the taste of their dick or
whatever but we should ask more from trillion dollar companies the number of people that are mad at me
for being mad why just get tips that they removed the cable from the airpods pro 3s that they no
longer ship it with a cable that they have slowly should really have a cable that they should slowly
that they've slowly whittled down the number of included accessories in their products
is mind blowing to me like why would you ask them that to include a cable i i don't know why
would i ask anyone to include a cable with their product i'm the i'm the asshole like i just i
can't really i can't really wrap my brain around that i saw this great picture um it's like what was
lost uh iphone accessories comparison hold on let me see if i can let me see if i can find it uh
someone posted this great picture and it was like it was only like four or five years ago
that they included like a lightning to three and a half millimeter adapter they had they had like
headphones they had stickers they had a wall wart they had a cable apple stickers were on like
everything uh you know what i think it was on i think it was on reddit i'm gonna append reddit
to my search and no i can't find it if anyone from chat has the link i think it was on our slash
all the other day uh but it was it was it's it's crazy how we've just accepted them and look if
they lowered the price totally different situation if but it's just a cable so if i even remotely
believed that these choices had anything to do with environmental impact different situation
i don't buy it i'm sorry but i just don't buy it apple does so much that with intent
creates additional waste in the world they do a lot well as well like i think the new uh the iphone
errors titanium chassis is like a significant percentage of of remanufactured titanium which
is super cool and that is really good but they also do so much to create additional waste that i just
i can't take it seriously i don't buy it if someone like ferrophone said hey we're not
including a charger in the box because we felt that it was unnecessary you can add on a charger
to your order for this very reasonable cost totally different conversation how much does
apple charge for a usb-c cable 30 dollars is my guess okay let's find for the shortest one
charging essentials you can't call something essential and then not included in the package
20 hold on is this cad though that's canadian so 25 canadian dollars
for this like i was pretty close basic basic cables this even usb-3 usb-2 nice 25 canadian
dollars nice let's go usb-2 on this one too but it's two meter so that's something for 35 canadian
dollars the beats one is cheaper and longer i don't even know why they bothered to acquire beats
dude and braided they were acquiring a brand and then they stole the sound signature it's like
you took the least valuable thing about beats although i have heard dms is literally sitting
there going like this right now i will acknowledge i will acknowledge that some of the later beats
headphones actually were somewhat decent but did you ever listen to the first generation beats by
dray i have two things sure hit me you'll probably enjoy and hate both of them one uh i went through
and looked at all of the beats measurements i have most of them are less v-shaped than the air pods
pro 3 the other thing is apparently according to reddit so many people are returning air pods
pro 3s that they're offering some people partial refunds just to keep them so there's that i don't
know i think you're too mad about it oh yeah i mean look clout chaser is going to clout chase
is all i really have to say about that at this point like it seemed honestly i watched it you
didn't seem that upset i'm like i've seen him way more mad at stuff i don't know what people are
freaking out about i think it just seemed like a really good formula for for raising your own
profile and virtue signaling your own integrity or whatever to attack me for a while like that was
kind of trendy yeah sure and i think that some people haven't got the memo that like it's not as
much anymore not as much anymore i think there's i think there's a group that you know is still
really mad sure um about the completely worthless water cooling concept that some company had that
i said wouldn't work and it didn't work um and i there were things about it that i didn't handle
well admittedly there were things about it that were not handled well that were completely out of
my control um and didn't go well but you know whatever there's a certain number of people
that are still extremely mad about that and then there's like everyone else who either never cared
or has just oh my god moved on at this point um and so the whole just attack Linus for saying a thing
that is in this case objectively true i don't know sure good luck with that good plan i'll all you do
is harm your own credibility at that point i think which is kind of sad because i would like to see
i'd like to see the tech media space and the tech youtuber space be more unified i'd like to see us
working together for the benefit of the consumer i would like to see us working towards holding
companies accountable maybe that's just because i don't personally like the taste of apples
i prefer oranges maybe it's an acquired taste might be maybe i just need to suck it more maybe
you just brush your teeth you know i have a toothbrush right here maybe maybe i just need
to maybe i need to cleanse my palate before maybe i should use no computers for a month
before i switch to a man
pop a mint
sorry did someone say that yeah oh man oh man um so what you're saying is apple should make a
toothbrush anyway
what are we supposed to be talking about qualcom announces the snapdragon x2 elite
and x2 elite extreme i remember telling qualcom that their naming scheme was a dumpster fire
somehow they made it worse good job qualcom um Intel and AMD are not your role models that you think
they are one year after announcing the original snapdragon x qualcom is showing off its new
snapdragon x2 elite and x2 extreme oh no isn't it elite extreme yeah i think so but you see even
our own writers managed to copy it wrong because it made no sense x2 elite will come in two flavors
with one having 18 cores good lord and 53 megs of cash and the other having 12 cores and 34 megs of
cash with the 18 core addition having a slight performance advantage in dual core frequency
with them otherwise being very similar these both have a 128 bit bus the x2 elite extreme
has 4.4 gigahertz max on 18 cores and reaches 5 gigahertz on single or dual core loads 53 megs
of cash and a 192 bit bus this thing should be an absolute monster the adrino dedicated dpu dpu
display processing unit i guess they don't want to call it graphics yikes uh the adrino dpu on
all the chips can run three displays at up to 4k 144 hertz and qualcom is claiming these are the
fastest and most efficient processors for a Windows pc two of the reference designs include the very
cool fror airjet instead of system fans which you can check out our computex video on we covered
that a little while ago i have actually been back on my snapdragon laptop recently because there's a
video coming on this soon the liquid metal leaked out of my rg flow x13 and i was super upset about
that because i freaking love that laptop and i want a next gen one and i'll buy it again even
with the liquid metal i'll just take the liquid metal out i'll put some ptm 7950 in there i freaking
love that laptop well it comes with liquid metal yeah was that the stock application of liquid metal
you better believe it bub so i have to own at least part of the blame for it i was a little rough
with it and it was warm i think it might have been that time i tossed my backpack and it the
laptop when you tried to like throw it over the laptop was probably warm and it probably like
made it come out but either way i was not happy and my laptop is now dead we tried to recover it
and um it's a it's a long video it's an adventure it's an adventuresome video anyway uh good luck
qualcom i i hope the adoption of these next generation processors is a little higher
a i performer gets a record deal oh man care no but millions of listens on spotify
regularly gets 100 000 views on instagram and it's all ai stuff and likeness vocals and music
all ai generated and they purportedly got uh three million dollar offer with hallwood media
uh okay i hate it um cool i'm gonna i'm just gonna close that i've had enough of ai being
horrible for one day i like it uh should we talk about other things yeah valves under fire after
block blasters a free to play game was updated about a month after release to install malware
that allegedly steals the funds of their users the game had allegedly stolen at least 150 000
us dollars from its users before being removed from steam on september 21st including 32 000
dollars from latvian streamer rivo plavniacs cancer treatment fund oh come on apparently
there was a spearfishing campaign targeting creators for sponsorship opportunities this
isn't even the first time this year that steam has been used to distribute malware in february 2025
well let's start that sorry that was this year in february pirate five installed a trojan horse
in march sniper phantom's resolution demo would open a browser and steal user credentials
and in july kemia game installer would also install multiple payloads of malware
is pirating safer i doubt it you come across some some sketchy stuff anyway we just wanted
you guys to be aware of that command prompt and another was that doing another quick game related
you're good you can go another quick game is this what it's like yeah yep another quick game
related all the time fyi is ascent rivals has some pretty deep crypto connections we highlighted
this game last week it was that like pod case pod caser pod caster no pod racer that pod racing
looking to look alike that is how it feels luke was pretty excited about um ascent rivals
though is built on the cardano blockchain um gene on games the indie studio behind ascent
rivals stated that nft holders can join teams based on their nfts and they're apparently using web
three for sponsorships during tournaments like purchasing in-game billboards so far it doesn't
look super horrible but none of that really bothers me too much i just i didn't there was a line
that was like where is it we just definitely wanted you guys to be aware that we're not endorsing
the game we don't have any kinds of partnerships here we have no idea yeah we have no idea what kind
of massive win for web three gaming or whatever yeah this is gonna be i'm not interested in that
we have zero interest in nfts in the game no um i literally just went oh i'm racing a pod
yeah and then wanted to tell people because i thought it was neat yeah i we're not uh yeah we this
speaking of other folks that we're not partnered with um disclosure i invested in a nas software
specifically because of bullshit like this and that decision gets validated on a super regular
basis this is rough i invested in esch tech who's making hexos which is essentially a four dummies
interface for true nas so it's true nas under the hood and it's a shiny easy to car drive
on the outside and i'm super excited about it they are doing some really cool stuff
you can check them out at hexos.com why am i so excited and feeling so validated right now
because some sonology nas models that were previously capable of hardware transcoding
had the relevant drivers removed and not only that but deliberately blocked at the kernel level
according to user shared support tickets cool sonology you guys weren't like enough of a rip
off already for crappy hardware now you got to do this sonology announced it would offload media
processing to client devices in july 2024 citing licensing costs for he vc youtuber nas compares
covered the change in detail and pointed out a vc is license free and other sonology systems with
the same CPU but that advertised uh but advertised for plex hosting b station maintain transcoding
capabilities nas compares also published a guide to get hardware transcoding back which you shouldn't
have to do so yeah very excited for what the team over at hexos or excuse me ash tech is cooking up
with hexos they are still how are they doing they're they're still in they have updates alpha
actually oh that reminds me what's changed this last time we significantly talked about them i
owe john a response he messaged me the other day what did he say oh yeah he messaged me on discord
i don't know if this is for public consumption but sure it is now i think you leaked there
stuff anyways so well the precedence is set he says sorry for the washed out screen this is from
today uh snipping tool plus HDR is a nasty combination but you get the idea by the way
that complaint you mentioned about the welcome screen addressed in the q3 update we're publishing
ah whatever monday uh so i don't know what i'm looking at here but he he recorded a video
okay cool he just made so they made it so that the welcome wizard is harder to accidentally navigate
away from and then not be sure how to get back to sure so super cool it just kind of walks you
through creating users and creating shares and it used to be that if you like created a share and
then just went like back in your browser you were just lost uh whereas now that's not the case anymore
so uh hexos man and one of the things that that was a red line for me to invest was that there would
be a lifetime license there will be a lifetime license it will not include services that have
an ongoing cost so like if you want to buy cloud storage from them or something like that you want
to you want to back up to the cloud or you want to use uh you know some kind of like data forwarding
um that that they that they have ongoing costs for it won't include that but what it will include
is the basic functionality of the software for life um and that was that was a major thing for me
is like guys i understand that software companies these days got a software company you got to
have subscriptions and they're going to have subscription services and stuff but there might
not be as many jobs for developers out there but they're still expensive but you should have
the option for a NAS for something that the whole point of it is that you own it you should have an
option to own it that's the point so i'm i'm very excited for them to uh to get this thing
out of beta and uh and get the show on the road i just want to roll it for everything
and that's it for topics so should we move into after dark
sure if you insist we certainly can okay Dan look at this guy's checked out
checked out sorry sorry i'm on tiktok what would you say
banner to after dark it's not into the show okay well at least not on tylenall i'd hate for you
to get the tizm that's true that's true i need to start macro dosing that really you want more
tizm yeah not a ton more i think a little bit going on i've always wanted to be in just a
little bit just a little bit more i just want to appreciate our rail system more it's about it
collect things okay merge messages how is it possible that blatant ui errors make the final
product from a major company for example the youtube music widget in google maps blocks its
own button and half of the road hazards buttons my theory is that the people who are in charge of
these projects don't actually daily drive them like there's there's so many little things that are
just kind of obvious like my car for instance it has um it has an individual configurable
like drive mode so that you can be like well i want like really stiff suspension but i i don't
want to get a custom one i don't want it lower custom load out for your car yeah and i don't
want the like super aggressive throttle response like i i want it like this um you cannot if i
recall correctly configure the regenerative braking because Porsche just has their own philosophy of
one pedal driving they don't believe in it or whatever which is like yeah that's not really
your decision that's my decision i i'm the one who paid the money for it but whatever um and the
the irritating thing for me is that i have to switch to it every single time i get in the car
because i never want to use one of their profiles that i cannot edit so i have to tick tick tick
tick switch over to it every time i get in the car and it's just that's annoying why it doesn't
matter it's the champagne is to champagne problems can you switch while driving just
random side question okay yep you can totally switch while driving it's just
unnecessary yeah i just shouldn't have to yeah same thing for stuff like how i can't type on my
touchscreen my passenger is not allowed to type on my touchscreen when the car is in motion it's
like you do understand that voice commands just like don't work i mean you're german so i'm sure
your voice commands are even worse than ours because like they probably speak precisely you
think so that you think they just have better better enunciation i mean that is entirely possible
but it's just there's just so many little things that i look at and i just go like yeah you just
obviously don't daily use this yeah um i think the it's i think it's the ford ceo that was dailying
a byd car that's super cool i heard he's still was that's super cool like yeah you're the ceo
of ford you could probably just have a driver drive you around in a Bentley or whatever and never
touch a steering wheel but how can you possibly hope to run a car company unless you are driving
your company's cars driving competitors cars like really caring i think that's really cool
and i just see so many examples like you said of software that clearly has never been used
like really used by the people who are allegedly in charge of overseeing it with that said
fairly unimportant clarification but someone's going to call us on it it was a
Xiaomi su7 sorry my bad my bad not somebody's gonna um but the flip side of that is we talked
about this earlier you can't have a hundred thousand people perfectly aligned on a mission
and there's all kinds of stuff that makes it into our finished products that yeah i totally
wouldn't have approved of but i never saw it or and you can't and you can't see everything if you
want to do any significant volume of things at scale you're not going to see everything if you
want to create rather than critique you will discover that it's really hard and you get
you'll get both sides of the story exact same people complaining about not giving enough people
agency to do their own thing and and and the the you know being too hard on people for failures
and wanting to give people rope to to try and experiment and do stuff like that and then
any single mistake that ever comes out is your fault and you should have done for not overseeing
it better yeah yeah it's the exact same argument will come from the exact same person yeah that
one's fun things happen i don't know up next hi l1 l2 and d RAM been yeah nice typical been 15
years since the olympics came to town do you have any fond memories from those events i actually
didn't go downtown at all um i was in victoria i thought it was really funny when when canada won
because of the gold medal hockey game okay because they had those um they had those this is our game
or whatever like scotia bank ads throughout the entire hockey tournament and they were like super
polished and they were professional ads do you remember after canada won there was like an
extra bit that looked like absolute dog because they just like threw it together when canada
actually made it deep into the tournament and just in case they won it was like a clip that
they were ready for no i don't remember that and it just like it looked like absolute trash they
probably should have just done nothing i forget if the resolution i forget if the resolution was
super low or just like it was missing some of the other assets or something like that just as a as
a tech person who you know appreciates um the difficulty of putting on a production i just
found it extremely amusing that someone's job out there was to have this asset ready on the
off chance that canada won the whole thing so that they could like put it up but probably no
one would ever see it and they were probably so busy doing other things that they just like didn't
care uh oh dude so good man there was i my mom tried to convince me to volunteer and i'm like
annoyed that i didn't because the volunteers got these like sick jackets oh wow that's super nice
they looked so cool they have a writing on the ARM they have a little logo
how hudson's bay made a product somebody wanted good for them i mean it was 20 it was 15 years ago
but i thought these they're doing well now awesome they were so sick it's nice when people like try
yeah they were dope and you got them from volunteering and i should have just done it
my mom was right got them up next uh hi dad hello i'm pursuing a degree in tech management and
recently realized i'm one out of two out of 20 in a class that actually reads the material and
doesn't have chat gpt do my homework uh teacher doesn't care should i stop try it no no kind of
stupid question is that you'll probably just do better you should you should not ask questions
like that because that's not good management you should take pride in your work and you
should do a good job because that should be something that you that is is part of your
identity as a person you're welcome luke thanks for actually being here today
why are you so cheap what's happening
david throwing hands is that it that's the whole thing he bought a blank t-shirt just to ask you that
do better i think he could have just said wait did they buy our cheapest possible no they
bought uh they bought some they picked up a couple extra tolls okay so they bought a couple of our
cheapest but we don't have extra tolls Dan they bought two extra large shadows in tall ah sorry
short sleeves uh when i was young young we were doing great and then when i was medium young
there was a big accident and my dad's work can use that to work for a long time and he had to like
it got really bad for a while there we were close to losing the house and then he had to go to our
doctor and be like yo you need to let me work again because like things are going to get a lot
worse for me to the point where it would be worse for me to not work than it would for me to do work
so let me go back and then he got if i remember correctly and i'm pretty sure this is accurate
two full-time jobs and a part-time job within like a week and just went like sicko mode for way too
long and i don't fully know how he is alive um but he like saved the family and everything was crazy
and i learned some appreciation for like having cash in the bank um yeah and i it's not that i
don't spend money i spend money on experiences i prefer to buy small amount of nice thing that
will last that i can repair that money on going i spend money on health i spend money on keeping
myself going um gym gym equipment things like that other people he won't say it but i'll say it
luke spends money on other people yeah um that is true i ran into your dad
yeah this week curling yeah we had uh we had a quarterly event for the writing department
which i'm informally part of because no other department that does quarterly events includes
me um so we we went curling which was organized by david pancrats who's super awesome he's a
relatively new member of the team but he's uh he's dived right in he's been doing awesome
and um he organized a curling night and it was the first time i had curled nerd sports
which was the first time i had curled ever yeah and i still suck that makes sense yeah it's really
hard yeah it was fun though it was fun as heck did he he was he just like busy the whole time
or did he like he came over to chat with us but he had stuff to do yeah yeah but he actually
helped with a little bit of coaching for the other group it wasn't my group um did you have
like two sheets yeah yeah okay it makes sense that's two lanes for the bowlers out there yeah yeah
yeah there you go but but yeah i don't know uh i also just and you know maybe it's something
that's wrong with me or whatever i don't really consider it that way i feel much more comfortable
um i don't feel a need to buy a bunch of this stuff like i had personally attacked i don't
get that much fulfillment from just buying things i do get fulfillment from buying something that i
like spent a lot of time like i i haven't been able to use it because my house is in shambles right now
but uh i'm very excited about the big screen beyond that wasn't cheap that was a bunch of no
that was not cheap don't i took it out of the box i put a little cover on it just placed it against
my face and just everything went black immediately because it's perfectly form perfect oh i'm excited
about that thing it feels great i mean i stoked so like i i do spend money i just make sure that i
have an ample amount saved ready for the rainiest day you could have um and that makes me very
comfortable and i like being in that state so i do that
hey lld what happened to the 3d printed water cooling tube you had made did it hold up was
there an update on it that i just missed happy to see tall shirts are back in stock
uh i believe we did update yeah we did updates for six months on the 3d printed hardline water
cooled computer challenge over on Floatplane so here's what it looked like after three months
jk subscribe to Floatplane LMG.gg slash Floatplane got him hi landinus and drake uh oh uh what
are the coolest modifications that you've seen made to the LTT backpack i replaced the LTT logo
with my own patch added power cord handles and extra inner pockets and loops i was just kidding
before by the way the 3d printed tubes did hold up um super cool you don't actually have to subscribe
to Floatplane just to get that answer this is why we don't go to parties just trolling them um i think
that's probably the most modified backpack that i've heard of uh did have you guys seen a more
modified backpack than that oh there's one here what oh are you is this a modified oh wait are you
the one who left the merge message or what oh no that one's just like the same this is like the
same list of stuff okay well here can we see it it's jane show me your sack this is dms's backpack
massively over fills it to the point where it's going to like explode all the time
okay a bunch of countries i have i have pointed out that he could not have that
wait so he ruined the zipper it went through surgery and then just zipped hide one side of
the backpack shut this is my suitcase every time i travel yeah yeah it's like literally always
exploding every time i see it i like the mud you know this is like for for a lot of airlines
like personal item size and then you can have a bigger carry on as well okay okay um okay thanks
dms i'm just i you know what if you're happy i'm happy uh okay down here didn't say it had to be
modified well hey Linus luke and sound guy with the video this week on that 30 000 dollar GPU if
you guys had one yourself is there something you could actually use it for or would it just be like
a novelty item you have absolutely lab said it was like salivating at the idea of having something
like that more permanently uh whether it's for like ai coding assistance or um machine vision for um
like recognizing ui elements and like verifying in game settings um what are some of the other
things they wanted to do with it those are the main things but there's also other like uh machine
vision powered tasks that we're planning that it could be applied to but i mean there's other ways
and there's also waiting a little bit i mean um the ai industry is marching ever onward and so
there will come a time not long from now when literally millions of these GPU's will be liquidated
on places like server parts deals and that'll be nuts we'll be ready that'll be actually crazy
there's also the chinese GPU companies that are trying let's see how they go we'll see what happens
uh next luke does Floatplane participate in standards bodies like svta no that was a short
answer what is it i don't even i never heard of that uh i've heard i don't remember hearing of it
streaming video technology alliance yeah i've heard like they would pick up our phone call okay
let's move on yeah how is the preparation going for whale land is this the first time this is the
first time sorry this is better this is the first time i've been in a country that i wasn't born
in i am very excited and the border agent didn't believe me when i told him why i was crossing
that's hilarious i'm going to a gaming party uh love it up prep is going okay i still have
some more things to do tonight after WAN Show and i will probably still have some more things to do
in the morning but i very much look forward to seeing y'all there um i'm going to be setting up
a five v five tape to tape i think i said that on pre show i'm not sure if i talked about that on
on when but uh it's weird not having it after when i don't know that it's bad it's just weird
well you're more than welcome to you know come help set up the five v five i'm going to be zipping
over or are you going over there nice just to see it yeah help a little bit if i can okay cool yeah
well i'll be over there hello dll grabbing some new blanks love the feel and fit of my current
ones heck yeah what is the process you go through to pick up the right material it's rare to find
anything near the quality you have so quality is subjective there was another youtuber who
took issue with the materials that we use in our blanks uh they basically believe that anything
that doesn't have 100 cotton is garbage i don't agree i actually really like the feel of a cotton
poly blend um so there's there's some subjectivity there and that's kind of the answer is because
i really like them so we went through countless blank suppliers to find one that i really liked
and then we went with that greetings wan dot dll my question is for Linus i've been watching a
lot of older early wan shows do you ever miss having your cats on set love to hear your bingles
mewing in the background lol i have wanted to have an office pet basically for as long as we've had an
office and every single time like like rodent incursions come up in a meeting i'm like hear me
out the cats go flies office cat um they can not all but particularly good hunters will just kill
anything they'll just kill everything is there a breed of cat that are particularly good hunters
there can be flying so here's the problem is that cats are likely to cats that come down cats are
likely to be an allergen for people that is the reason that we didn't have an office cat from
the moment we moved in here was that there was someone on staff who was allergic to cats that
person is actually no longer here but i'm sure someone else is allergic and i've always someone
at some time i've always been of the mind that my love of cats cannot possibly trump someone else's
being comfortable at work what i just that was just amazing thank you yeah i hope that gets
clipped um i do i'm allergic to bats bats because we could get bats for the fly problems the fly
problems are deeply not solved i don't i don't need a new i don't need a uh hundreds of clover
dale flu okay that leaked from an LTT lab okay what's next oh geez at luke i know you're using
cloudfare for float playing delivery but do you use any of the dev plant zt features or just cdn and
wef we use like yeah a bunch of stuff we've well i'm just going to talk more generally but uh we
use the heck out of workers we use uh r2 um we use a lot of cloudflare things we use the heck out of
workers it's a it's a thing i know i know
when one fails we just redeploy another one
we have hundreds they're disposable we have yeah over a thousand if i work correctly uh and you
don't even pay them you just toss it out when you don't want it anymore um yeah i gotta stop
googling how to kill children at work mother won't kill child what do i do the ones that work or
you're at work when you're googling how to kill children in general that's the one yeah you can
you ask ggpt because you just get blocked but does it just block you or does it ask you what you
mean i don't know i don't normally just go around i feel like i have to do that now i don't know i
just don't understand why you're having trouble with it it's not that hard i don't have to do it
from the command line well like they're weak my experience is all in car not cloud infrastructure
all right next anyways yeah we use genuinely a lot of their things uh r2 is sem uh it's not
semi new to us we've been using it for like since the beginning of r2 but uh we have started using
it significantly more now um and yeah i wouldn't be too surprised if we keep using more stuff
i've said it forever i really love the product of cloud flare there are some issues with it i
really wish it played a little bit nicer with australia um but it's it's a fantastic product
other parts of cloud flare maybe not as big of a fan but their products are great
hi dll for Linus have you thought about whole room vr for the land side of the badminton center
zero latency vr is an amazing experience with cool games like space marine i have could franchise
i don't want to set it up and also like oh my god i have to take all my nets down we have to move
all the benches i have to set up like tracking and i guess we'd probably have to have like an entire
fleet of like backpack pcs and you know peripherals to deploy it would be a whole completely different
business model uh we do have some cool room scale multiplayer vr stuff at whale land but it's
it's rolled by a separate company they're just coming in to do like a a trial one so they're
doing it for free this time and then they'd want us to pay in the future we're going to see how much
people like it and if if people are super into it then maybe we'll do it again in the future but
we're not going to just turn the entire badminton center into a vr space because and this may be
surprised to a lot of folks out there who don't know that badminton is like kind of a big sport
but we're actually getting really busy every time i show up it's full cooking baby we're cooking
yeah it was it's it's been it was really interesting reading the comments when we first announced it
on youtube just like hey we've got a land center slash badminton club this will never work is he
joking is it money laundering it's like guys there's a whole wide world out there all you
got to do to discover it is just open your mind a little bit you'll like it come on in the water's
warm and last one i've got for you today hello lld long time watcher first time buyer question is
for luke luke who know wow player housing is coming back before christmas it's time to come home
no i don't even care a little bit oh really player housing oh okay i don't know do you like you
want player housing i don't even know what it is uh so i mean i don't know what their implementation
is maybe they make it kind of neat but digital mom's basement that would be really funny um
but you player housing in games there's a bunch of different implementations for it but it's like
mmo obviously wow but you have a unique house that is yours that you can theoretically customize to
a certain degree so it's the sims in an mmo okay i mean well people like maybe you can invite your
friends over to your house and stuff so it's the sims but you have like armor on
you say that but like you played a lot of wow the armor the pretend you don't think the armor
no the armor is really why are you trying to be cooler but that's the problem is the armor is
way cooler than the house i see yeah the armor is sick wow just being like yeah your shoulder
pads are just like four times as big as you right that was great okay brilliant so you would be into
player housing i can't wear the house as long as the door would be wide enough to accommodate your
armor no because it's kind of a flex when you can't fit through the doors and wow okay so you
want a small door built for you you want a small door so we've had horse armor now we have house
armor house armor yeah okay so here you are saying you don't care about the house but then
you're like actually i really like it when doors are small yeah so you can't really have it both
ways here look here your world view is confusing i just you're not going to get me to come back
to wow by adding player housing which like mmo's had literally 20 years ago like i'm surprised that
they didn't it's a good way to extract money what's up james c a u it's an a u back to james c
nice that was a that was the last merge message of the show nice and we'll see you guys again next
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