Is anything really live, Dan?
12 seconds ago, I feel in a state of both live and unalive.
Is anything really live? Because I'm dead inside.
I probably should. Because it's an early 2000s emo band.
Crawling in my stream.
I can't keep up with you guys today. Videos will not render.
I can't drink right now. You're going to get me. Oh, my God.
Pumie.
So you're going to be tired, but he's still nice and narcissistic.
That never goes away.
I'm not even 100% sure what prompted that. I actually have no idea what's going on today.
I said, oh, God, and you said, who me?
I no longer remember what the conversation was. I'm so, dude, I am.
I got you. We'll be all right. Yeah. I can leave topics.
No, no, I got this. I got this. I can read.
Yeah. Oh, oh, thanks, Artie.
Oh, yeah, we should. Artie, do you want them on now? Are we supposed to put them on later during a call out?
We can have this discussion through a flow plane chat. It totally makes sense.
Yeah. Because there's a call out later for the reversible bomber jacket. I saw that.
Dude, I'm so tired. I was honestly feeling pretty okay.
And then I had like an hour and a half nap.
That is not the right amount of time to nap. The sleep drugs were released in the brain.
Yeah. And they are, they are drugged. Yeah.
Yeah. I honestly speaking, I probably should not have driven here.
Like I am. You do seem pretty tired.
There is a, there is an amount of sleep deprivation that equates to like being actually drunk.
I don't think I'm quite there yet, but I'm, I'm definitely
stupider.
Like this must be what it's like to like not be very smart.
Socks? Yeah. Yeah. Man, I feel for people who are not very smart.
Some of the like when I had COVID streams, I remember those
were like off. When you had like COVID brain. Yeah.
Yep. That was tough. Everything's just like actually genuinely slow.
Like I don't know how else to describe it. It's harder and like people are like having a conversation.
You're like, whoa, whoa, you've moved on, but I'm like, I'm not done with. Still processing those things.
What you were talking about yet. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. I don't know. COVID brain at least, it felt like the processing power was
there. It was just extremely slow. Like that's sad.
Like we're spending all this money on like anti-aging. We should be spending money on like how to make people smarter.
Brain boost. Man. Oh, I've read the most depressing article about how
apparently idiocracy is like actually happening like really
fast right now. People are, they're like, no, you're not imagining it.
People are like legitimately markedly dumber than they were
like even a short period of time ago. I've heard, yeah, like just people just graduating school
are like very un-hireable right now. I've heard that's a huge thing.
More rejections than ever in history for new hires.
Sick. Yeah. Sick.
And like all those people hitting university who've never read a book and like all that kind of stuff.
Like, yeah. Turns out the brain is a muscle.
Yeah. And if you don't exercise it, it atrophies.
For your entire life doesn't benefit you.
Anyways. New hires sound like my dating history.
Well, I mean, that's another stat that came out that like
current like 20-ish year olds are getting romantically rejected
more than ever in history as well. Really? Yeah. Professionally and romantically.
Both of them are just not working out. Well, that's going to be good for society.
What could go wrong?
Atriach viewer. Yes, actually. So basically the incels will inherit the earth.
Blessed are the incels.
That's in the Bible, right? Yeah. Sure, dude. Yeah, yeah.
Grandneb's Madness says, Hey, last week when you read about freedom cities,
you didn't read a single actual specific policy proposal. You assumed everything about it.
You didn't find out what it actually is. No, no. But what we did was we told you what it actually will become
regardless of what anyone is saying. The only reason for any of that to exist is so that you can
just do awful things and not be accountable.
That is legitimately the reason for it. Look it.
It doesn't matter the what. What matters is the who.
Look at who is proposing it.
That tells you everything that you need to know. Wasn't it Peter Teal?
Yeah.
Good luck everybody. There's one heck of a who.
Yeah. All right.
Should we just do this thing? Yeah.
Cool. Yeah, I captured the bombs as COVID brain made me feel like
such an idiot at work. I just couldn't remember common words used in my industry,
but I could describe the concept.
Yeah, that's rough. Mine fortunately didn't last that long, but Luke's COVID
brain was hilarious. He was like actually an idiot for quite a while to like I
knew he was going to like become Luke again. So I was so frustrated because then I would try harder to
like fight through the fog and it just didn't work. Yeah, because he was just actually f**king stupid.
So he's like he's just defenseless. He was like a stupid fish in his stupid barrel.
Some of it was like genuinely oxygen deprivation. We got these little things you can put them on your thumb
and it shows you the oxygenation of your blood. Right. Mine was just like really low.
It's just like, oh man, that's not good.
Oh man.
Okay.
All right. I couldn't finish my own sentences when I got a concussion. That's a bit of a different thing, but yeah.
Crescions can be brutal. Yeah. No, like the COVID brain thing for both of us was we were
just like a little bit stupid.
Okay. Should we do this thing?
Okay. Someone got you.
Linus and I quote. I didn't actually last that long.
What? What are you talking about? You said mine didn't last that long.
You're taking advantage of my poor short memory right now. I know what I said.
I think I think that's what I said.
A lot of the time my memory actually is pretty poor and I just operate based on what I probably would have done or
probably would have said and generally speaking that works pretty well for me because I'm pretty consistent.
It's very weird when you talk to him a lot because he'll
tell you the same thing like a million times because he'll forget that he's had this conversation with you in the
past, but then if you reference a conversation that you've
had with him, he'll like be able to recall it decently well
because it's probably not recall. It's like recreation.
So it's a way it's weird. You'll have the same conversation with him seven times,
but then he can he can like accurately defend a previous points. It's like this doesn't make a lot of sense to me, but but
it's it's it's real.
I used to like let you know when you've told me stuff before and now I often just like don't even bother.
It's like whatever.
Oh look, if nothing else, I'm consistent. Yeah.
Right. I'm going to press the thing now.
Good luck today. Oh lord.
You gotta find my points. Resuming the selected.
Yeah.
What is up everybody and welcome to the WAN Show.
We got a lot of great topics for you today.
We'll be talking about why I'm so sleep deprived that I'm
basically mildly intoxicated.
Also be talking about.
Ah, yes. Ah, yes. We issued a correction to one of our videos this week.
The whole process was very efficient and made a ton of sense.
Yeah. Also the EU says that Apple can make a portless iPhone
and is steam coming to Xbox?
Really? That's what you picked. That's weird. Portless, portless iPhone and Xbox steam.
Yeah. What would you do? I don't know. Sublimated iPhone and a portless Xbox.
It's going to be a show today.
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They won't tell me why the jerkies here.
Yeah. We genuinely have no idea why that's there. It's because we're the boys and we make prank calls.
I don't know. It doesn't matter. It was a thing in like the early 2000s.
You kicked my dog. Okay. I remember the prank calls.
What does that have to do with jerky?
That's what they were called the jerky boys. Oh, okay.
I didn't know that. Okay. Does that warrant a bell?
So you get one of these.
Look, I've slept like five hours in the last two days.
And I made the extremely, extremely poor choice, poor
choices move of having a nap like an hour and a half ago.
And so I just got back from at least three countries.
Singapore, I think is a country, right? Yeah. I mean, in Civ, it's a city state.
Are they countries? I love geographical knowledge coming from Civ.
Well, that's the, that's the only place I get it after school.
And I had a literally useless social studies teacher. So I'm just going based on what Mr.
Sid Meyer, Professor Meyer taught me.
It's a country. Wonderful. Then I was just in three countries.
This was probably the most hectic vacation that I've ever been on.
It was much harder work than being in office. I'm actually extremely grateful to be back at work.
You know, how long we were gone? We were gone for, I think, 12 days or something like that.
We stayed in six different hotels. Whoa. And I was there with the whole, not, no, I mean the whole family, like my
nuclear family, my, my sister-in-law and like her kids and everything
and my in-laws, so my wife's parents and my sister-in-law's parents.
It's a lot of people. My children's grandparents between hotels every two days.
And there was a lot of like family reunioning and, you know, stuff.
And there was a lot of my wife is a bit of a type A.
And so a lot of like, okay, today we're hitting the bird, the bird sanctuary
and then we're going to hit the something. Anyway, the, the point is that I'm going to try to tell you everywhere
that I stayed and I will probably get it wrong.
Got it. I already forget, but we definitely started, no, stop.
We definitely started, we started in Bali.
So we started in Indonesia and that was cool.
I don't know. Maybe next week I'll show you guys some pictures or something. It'll be, it'll be pretty cool.
Oh, those were awesome. Actually, yeah, yeah, sweet.
Yeah. The bird sanctuary seemed super cool. Yeah.
So we'll, so yeah, well, we were in Bali and then we went to Malaysia first
to port something, Port Dixon.
That's right. And then we went to Kuala Lumpur and then we went to Singapore and then
we came to home. And the reason that I didn't kind of address it on WAN Show last week
is I would strongly prefer, you know, when we're on vacation to kind of tell
you guys that once I'm back. But I didn't really get an opportunity to not have people know
that I was on vacation overseas with my family because it blew up on
r slash Malaysia. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, I guess, I guess why don't I, why don't I talk about
the, the tech mall that I went to. I have now completed more than a trifecta of sick Asian tech malls.
So I've been to, and I'm going to butcher this. It's like waw, quang, bae or something like that.
I, I could have looked up what it was called again before the show.
In fact, I may have, but I wouldn't remember it if I did.
So whatever. The one that's in, um, oh crap.
Wow. My brain is so bad. The, the, the, the Chinese tech. Shenzhen.
Yes. Thank you. Shenzhen. So I went to that one with Scotty from strange parts.
That was really cool. I went to Simlim square in Singapore like nine years ago.
The last time I went and visited Yvonne's family in Southeast Asia.
Um, I went to that sick tech mall in, um, Taipei last time I was there
in Taiwan, uh, last year. And then now I've been to, um, Plaza low yet.
I just remember that I was trying not to gain weight on this trip.
And so I'm like, Oh yeah. Uh, so I picked the low, low yet Plaza.
So like low fat, then. Oh, I thought you were.
Speaking of, speaking of fat, I.
Is that a thing? Uh, sort of no yet.
Get means like, I know what that means. So you answered like a, okay.
Anyway, the point is, uh, Plaza low yet. Um, super cool.
Um, shout out the guys at the top of the escalators that like, like try
and make sure if you want to buy a laptop, do you want to buy a laptop?
Um, everyone else was super cool.
That's so aggressive. Oh dude. They have like, what are the odds I'm here for a laptop?
Especially that one. There's literally everything in this place.
You probably want to like browse a little bit. Yeah. Um, no, dude, they're, they're like, they're crazy.
Um, yeah, but other than that, man, it was super cool.
I, the reason that I went there was not to make a video because I was on
vacation, but I, I happened to have one of our little audio recorder things
with me because Elijah needed a clip of me on a beach. And I was like, well, what better place to get that than when I'm sure on
the beach in, I guess that was in Bali when I recorded that one.
I think I don't know, it's kind of a blur to be honest with you.
Um, so, so anyway, I had one of my little audio recorders and like I'm
dailying an iPhone, so I just gave Yvonne my iPhone and we, uh, right.
That's, I had not the part of the story I was on yet. So the reason I decided to make a video was cause I needed a micro HDMI cable.
I made the same mistake that I have made previously, bringing my ROG, uh,
portable display for the plane to kind of set up in the middle so the kids
can play games and, uh, it takes a micro HDMI input or a type C input, but
because I have a first generation ally and also a switch, um, there's no way
on either of those devices to charge that device while also outputting type C to
the display. I couldn't output from the switch at all because I forgot a micro HDMI adapter
cable and I didn't bring an HDMI cable at all because I assumed that my hotel
rooms would have HDMI cables between whatever streaming box and the TV,
which actually only half of them did. So midway through the trip, I'm like, okay, I'm getting a bloody HDMI cable
and I'm getting that micro HDMI adapter so that we can hook the display up to
the switch or I can power my display and output from the ally at the same time.
Cause the first gen ally only has one type C. So on a new ally, you'd be able to just output to the display, power the display
like that and then plug in the power to the ally and then you could have
continuous power delivery all the way through. I think cause I don't know that display is kind of funky cause I tried to power
it and then also USB-C output into it and then my ally started going
like it was getting into like charging mode all the time and then I had my
phone plugged into it and I was running my finger along the side of it and it was like a weird feeling.
I don't know. Maybe my charger wasn't grounded properly or something like that.
Anyway, the point is, the point is I needed a cable and what better place to
go than it turns out the huge tech mall that was literally a seven minute
walk from my hotel. So I went there and I was like, well, this will be really simple.
I'll just find a cable. I was like, okay.
Well, probably not just any shop. Okay. I'll go into like a camera shop cause I need micro HDMI and some cameras use
that awful, awful standard just for space savings and I went into one and they
were like, oh, that'll be $40 and I was like, oh, okay.
You mean like like local currency like, yeah, Malaysian ring it or whatever.
And they're like, oh, uh, you know, no, I know 40, 40 us dollars.
And I was like, excuse me for a micro HDMI cable.
You have got to be kidding me right now. Like you can get adapters for like two bucks and then like a cable for, you
know, five to 10 and that doesn't mean I expect to pay that at retail.
Obviously there's, there's a convenience tax, but that was clearly
a foreigner tax and no, thank you.
So I, so I kind of poked around and went onto a different floor
and finally found a place that was basically like Aliexpress, but in retail
store, like they just had, you know, box of bulk cables here, box of other
more different bulk cables there. And you could, it was, it was great.
It was like the bulk candy aisle section at the supermarket, but for, for tech.
Um, and then I found these other really cool stores and then I noticed
that so many of the shops had like 50 series in stock.
Oh, even like 50 90s. Whoa. 50 70 TIs like actually like good ones.
Uh, pricing was, uh, well, you know what, I'll, I'll save it for the video,
but pricing was not what you would expect.
Whatever you were expecting, probably it wasn't it.
Uh, but like, dude, seriously, there were more 50 series and AMD 9,000
series cards in stock in that tech mall that I could probably find scouring
the entire North American e-tail like online inventory.
Like I kid you not, every single little hole in the wall shop had probably
three to 10, 50 series cards and like a handful of 9,000 series.
You know what could be, I don't know if it's worthy of a full format video,
but it could be kind of interesting. Um, at Computex, like can you find GPUs in Taiwan?
Yeah, cause you can't find them in the States right now. You almost certainly could.
I bet you can't. So anyway, I talk a little bit about, you know, what the, what the market
dynamics that, you know, might be at play here are.
Uh, one thing that I don't really touch on cause it's like unscripted and I'm
just kind of walking around shooting little clips when I think of it. And I, and I didn't really think about it at the time.
Um, is that it could be strategic.
Uh, it could be that if I'm, if I'm giving the benefit of the doubt to
NVIDIA and their board partners sending a couple of GPUs to each of all
of these retail shops, uh, limits the ability of someone like a minor or an AI
farm or whatever to buy in bulk. It maximizes the opportunity for an individual gamer to go in and, and
just, you know, buy a card and take it home. This is a big benefit of the doubt.
But that's a huge benefit of the doubt thing. Um, so I, I, so I legitimately don't know, I don't know how it is.
And I like, I'm, I'm serious. I'm talking like the, the bigger shops had them, the, the more like, uh, you
know, a Canada computers or memory express or like a, like a tiny micro
center is probably the best way that I could describe them. Those guys had them, but especially what it was the little like hole in the
wall shops, you know what I mean by that, right? Like you go by and it's basically a doorway and then like, that's it.
It's like a long doorway, essentially a closet, just a big one.
Kind of like the one that I bought that super high end gaming system from, uh,
back when we did that Taiwan video, uh, like it, uh, and they'll, they'll just
have a bunch of them on the shelf. I'm like, yo, are those boxes? They're like, yeah, I'm like, right, but like, are they just boxes?
They're like, no, stuff in them. I'm like, Oh yeah. Okay.
Like what? You got to be kidding me. Right.
That is pretty wild. Yeah. So I'd, so then, so then there was that.
And then I was kind of going, well, okay. Yeah. This is probably a video at this point.
Cause then I also needed my, uh, I wanted a switch doc, but not like, you
know, the big chunky first party doc. Cause I brought a doc with me.
Doc like actually sucks. Yeah. I brought a doc with me, but it wasn't working.
And I, I, I have two docs at home that I bought off like AliExpress or something
and one of them works and one of them doesn't. And I gambled and I lost the one that didn't work.
And I don't know, it probably worked at some point. Like it probably worked with the non OLED version or something.
I don't know, but the point is I tried it on the trip. It wasn't working.
I was like, ah, crap. I grabbed the wrong one. So I also needed one of those, but I didn't want like the bulky first party doc.
I wanted just like a little, a little sleek cable style doc.
And so I, when I was there just getting the cable or looking for the cable, I
just didn't bother buying that. And I was like, okay, I'm just going to leave and then I'll come back tomorrow
with Yvonne and we'll make a video. It was, it was actually really fun, um, but it completely blew my cover
because while I got in and out of there with like two selfies, uh, the first
day when I was just like kind of scouting it out and determining that, oh yeah,
no, this is like definitely a video. I should just come back with Yvonne.
Uh, the second time around, I think, I think the r slash Malaysia post has
people replying to the top post with their own, with their own selfies.
Uh, like it was, it was kind of, it was kind of hilarious. It was really fun.
The, the vibe in there was really good. If you ever find yourself in, uh, KL, uh, definitely stop by whether
you need to buy anything or not. Cause it's an experience.
Is this the one that you're talking about? Oh, so that's the one that I ultimately got the decent deal on my micro HDMI
and my HDMI cable. I just love the not a thief.
Okay. I have been given some context for this. Well, I'm assuming the security camera footage of a store or the apparently
that's like a big thing in this mall is people publicly shaming shoplifters
with the security camera footage in their stores. So, uh, that guy got a, a completely different selfie with me that I don't
think he posted it steady, but for the CCTV footage of me buying a cable.
I had to clarify that you weren't a thief, but he was the owner, the
manager of that store or something like that. And, uh, and, and he, he did talk to me, he didn't, he didn't talk to me
about posting the selfie, but he did talk to me about taking it.
Uh, and then he posted the CCTV footage. I'm glad he did say not a thief because, you know, the kinds of assumptions
people make about me these days, they may very well have gotten there with it.
I would have thought you stole. Oh, a hundred percent. A hundred percent.
I actually, I actually ended up double buying because I, because I actually, I
bought the micro HDMI cable the first day because that was like the first thing I
did when I walked in, while I was still just buying a cable and not making a video.
And then I was like, well, I don't know if anyone actually recognized me the
first day because like I was, I was pretty much in and out of them all.
Um, so the second day I go back and I'm just like, okay, this is the one
part of it that I have to do a quick, quick little reenact of.
Uh, and I was like, oh, well, I'm not going to like waste their time, like
go in, like ask them questions again about where things are and then like
not buy their cables. So I'm, so I bought, so I bought the cable again.
Anyway, the, the manager didn't talk to me until the end of the day when I'd already gone all the way to the top of the mall and then come back.
And, uh, and he was like, he was trying to give me something and I, I, I don't
really like taking stuff. I mean, you've, you've seen, you've seen my conversations with people about swag.
I just, it's, it's not even just like, it's, it's not like an ethical thing.
Like I think that somehow I will, I can be bought for, you know, six dollars
worth of chocolates or whatever. It's just that I actually just do not want more things.
Um, like I have this conversation with everyone from friends to family, to
industry, um, contacts where I'm just like, look, I'm at a stage in my life
where if I want something, I can buy it pretty much regardless of what it is.
So if I don't own it, I promise you 100% it is because I don't want it.
Yeah. Um, is this the one you're talking about? Uh, no, no, okay.
No, that's just a completely different one. Is it a different story even?
Yeah, I love the guy over my shoulder.
I didn't even notice him when we were taking the picture. I didn't see that the first time.
Oh, it's great. No, that's a completely different store. Okay. Yeah. Um, I no longer remember what I was talking about.
So that's going to have to be kind of your job today because I don't have
RAM keep it on track. No, no, no, no, no, that, that's fine. And just if you, if you do interrupt, which is totally fine, cause you know,
you know, taste of own medicine, um, just, you're going to have to tell me what
I was talking about before. So you, you had to buy the cable again.
Uh, you went upstairs back downstairs. He came up to me after and I was like, Hey, uh, so yeah, not only do I not want
the things you're offering me, but you can actually have this micro HDMI adapter
and this HDMI cable back because I really don't need it. I only needed the one and he's like, Oh, no, no, I can give you a refund.
I'm like, no, no, that's too, that's too much work. No, I'll just buy the cable.
Thank you for having a reasonable price. I'm not trying to charge me a white guy tax.
Yeah. So that was, that was great. I don't actually remember what all I wanted to say about shopping at the tech
mall and this is my only notes in the doc. So just in case you forget your own name.
Yeah. I thought about going back to Simlim square, but then I, because we were in
Singapore again, but I, I didn't have a reason. Like that's what I kind of like about these videos is other than the one.
Okay. Half of them anyway are me just needing something.
Um, and then the other ones I have contrived some mission, like in Shenzhen,
I wanted to, you know, build a PC, a gaming PC and see if I could get a
better deal in the like tech hub of China. Um, so that was like, that was a legitimate objective.
Even if I didn't really need a computer, I don't even remember what we did with the computer.
We give it away or something. I think you gave it to his editor or something.
Oh yeah. That makes pretty sure. Okay. It's a long time ago, but I think that's what happened.
And then in, in Taiwan, it was just inspired by like Jake's random picture of
this like random nondescript shop that just for whatever reason had a ball and
gaming PC turns out, it's cause they just like make ball and gaming PCs.
So that's super cool. Um, but then the one in Singapore was just cause I was staying with people who
had awful Wi-Fi and I just wanted to fix it. And then the one at Plaza Luiat was just because I forgot some stuff and I like
need to detect men. I wish we had places like that here. Like is there anywhere that you could go in person where you could
possibly hope to find a micro HDMI adapter that you can think of off the top of your head.
It probably exists. Memory Express might have one to be clear.
Maybe check the stock online before you go. Yeah, they might. I wouldn't feel confident, but, but I might.
And an off brand switch adapter.
Oh yeah. So no shot. So probably no shot and a 50 series.
Yeah. Okay. Now I just eliminated every, every retail staples.
I don't think so. Oh, that'd be a real long shot. But yeah, like that's the thing, man.
It's so cool. It's like six stories, dude.
It's like six floors of mostly just tech. The very bottom floor has like some jewelry and clothing, like boots and stuff.
Uh, but also, also tech shops. And while there are definitely things about it that I think are a little weird,
like they had more than one like HP branded store, like just a dedicated HP store.
They had more than one, like ROG branded store.
And I'm kind of sitting here going, you know, is tech really Starbucks?
You know, we're just the more, because you know, about the Starbucks effect or
whatever, right? Where if they put two Starbucks on like opposite corners at the same
intersection, they don't cannibalize each other. They just like sell twice as many or whatever.
That cannot possibly work for laptops. Like a laptop is not a, it's not an impulse purchase, right?
Am I missing something here? Maybe it is cause there's those guys like flapping laptops in your face as you
go up the escalator. So maybe, maybe if you are just impulse buying laptops.
Oh my God. I don't know. Chat wants a not a thief shirt.
That's actually brilliant. We should definitely do a not a thief shirt.
Pretty funny. Uh, okay. Dan, do you mind forwarding that over to the CW team, please?
Righto. Should it be like, should it be you in that security picture?
I'm trying to bring it up again.
I'm sure you, I'm sure you'll find it and that will be.
It's not that amazing. I mean, if it's a big zoom in, I kind of look like a thief.
Just, it's just that on a shirt.
Not a thief shirt with a fake security tag still attached. That's kind of funny.
Oh man. Um, oh man.
Yeah, we could even just like print a little like one of those like old
school, like bar style ones or something like that. That'd be pretty funny.
Why don't we move on to our next topic? Dan, you're going to have to be like on the little paper things today
because I got, I have no idea what's going on. I don't even know why there's jerky on my table.
You're allowed to eat it. You can eat the jerky. I'm allowed to eat the jerky. Absolutely.
Okay. My stomach is actually feeling a little unsettled right now.
So I might have to eat jerky a little bit later. My body has no idea what's going on.
I different countries. Yeah. I, I dude with, with airplane food thrown in the mix.
Uh, no, actually, I didn't eat at all on the flight and it's like 13 hours.
Um, so I, and then I got home and I ate pretty light cause I was
feeling a little unsettled and I think it's because of what I ate right
before I got on the flight. I had a subway sandwich, which normally I'm fine with.
I, I, I like happy Gilmore. I, the trailer for happy Gilmore too looks f***ing awful.
Like completely soulless, but, but you know, happy told me that the delicious
cold cut com honestly better spokesman than Jared far, far less, far less pedophilia.
So shout out happy Gilmore subway spokesman. Happy Gilmore.
I prefer my sandwiches with no pedophilia. Yes. Yeah. Me too.
Me too. Generally a good way to go. Um, ask for that in the store, you know.
Oh, okay. Yeah. That's good to know. That's good. That's good. The point is that, that I'm trying to make right now is that whether it was a
language barrier or whether it was an ingredients availability barrier, um,
they made it with processed cheese when I explicitly asked for cheddar and
processed cheese is not food. Um, my body does not believe that it is food.
And because I was so hungry, I ate a six inch, uh, like I ate half of that
processed cheese sandwich and, uh, my body is in rebellion.
No, that happens. Um, my, yeah, my stomach is not impressed with me making that decision to
continue eating it after the first bite. And so I am unsettled still, like 18, 19 hours later or whatever.
Uh, but I will definitely, I will definitely have some jerky later.
And I'm really looking forward to it.
Someone's apparently watching the show on a plane. That's, dude, you can get pretty like decent streaming internet.
That's so crazy to me. Yeah. I like, I, I believe them, but it's so crazy to me.
I remember, um, I remember just as a test, I load up some game.
I don't remember what it was. Um, and I had on some plane, like years ago, I had 3000 ping and the game
functioned perfectly fine, but just everything was like so delayed.
I just wanted to see what happened. Uh, no, I don't, I don't think so because like, um, it was like too much.
I was just actually so bad that it just nothing, like it, I don't know.
Oh, do people not know what, uh, process cheeses?
Dude, did I talk about this on WAN Show? The experience I had in like a, a separate, I do, I've been traveling
the last three weekend, four weekends in a row. I am like actually traveled out right now.
Um, yeah, went to Disneyland for the work thing, went to Texas for the, uh,
gamer house tour thing. And then the last two weeks I was over in Asia and six different hotels for two weeks.
Um, like I am super traveled out, but did I, did I talk about my experience
at the airport on the WAN Show where I was like trying to order a burger.
And I asked if the burger had processed cheese and they're like, it's American cheese.
And I'm like, that doesn't mean anything to me. American cheese is like, I've heard American cheese used to describe cheddar cheese.
It's kind of like freedom fries, like just American cheese. Like, yeah, that, that, that's utterly meaningless to me.
American cheese is actually a specific thing. Um, I think it, I think it means process cheese, but I think sometimes
people use it for too many things. Yeah. No, I've, I've definitely processed cheddar.
Yeah. American cheese is a type of processed cheddar cheese made from cheddar, Colby,
or similar cheeses in conjunction with other stuff. Also, you should not be allowed that the content of your cheese should have
to be greater than 90% cheese for you to call it cheese.
American cheese is just petroleum byproduct as far as I can tell.
I think they can't call it cheese. I think it has to be like processed, uh, milk product or something.
American cheese has a whole very, actually very specific history behind it
where they were like trying to save farmers and they, they stored them in
these like cheese caves and it's all, it's all, it's weird.
Anyway, the point that I'm trying to get to is that the, the lady behind
the counter had no idea what I was talking about.
I was like, is it like cheddar cheese or is it like processed cheese?
Like, is it real cheese? She's like, it's American cheese. And I'm like, okay, right.
But is it, is it real cheese? I'll have to check with the chef.
And I'm like, you're at a burger joint. There isn't a chef.
Like it was a, it was like a fast food chain. I was like, what are you talking about?
And I just, I just want to know if you're putting real food in the food.
Um, yeah. No, it's, it's, it's horrible.
Apparently by law, it's labeled as cheese product.
Yeah. Well, a lot of places definitely don't do that.
They, they definitely call it cheese. I'm just saying by law, that's apparently the label that they have for
it is, they don't just call it cheese. Cause it doesn't contain enough cheese to beat cheese.
It has to have 51% cheese.
Disgusting. All right. What do you want to do for our next topic?
We have a lot of topics today. It's actually going to be like a very long show.
Should we knock out the other main one? Mark Rober. I don't think anything really differentiates a main from another topic today.
Yeah. So we can do whatever you want in that case. Let's do one of mine.
The EU says Apple can make a portless iPhone. Let's go over the weekend.
We learned that Apple considered removing the USB-C port from its upcoming
iPhone air 17, but ultimately decided against the move in past due to concerns
in part due to concerns about using might be tired, but he's still beating
my dyslexia brain slow, but accurate due to due to concerns about how EU
regulators would review the move. Apple was forced to switch out of their proprietary lightning port for USB-C to
comply with the EU's common charger directive. They won't admit that Apple talks about, it's, it's amazing watching how
quickly environmentally friendly thing or how quickly Apple changed their
tune about how they innovated USB-C on the iPhone.
It's like, brother enough to stop in an article on nine to five.
Max, uh, Ben Lovejoy points out that the common charger directive only
states that if a device has a wired charging port, it must be USB-C.
European commission press officer Federica McCauley confirmed that a
portless phone would be compliant with the law, noting that since such
a radio equipment cannot be recharged via wired charging, it does not need
to incorporate the harmonized wired charging solution.
Crazy. Wow. So we will probably get a courageously portless iPhone at some point in
the nearest future. And you know what? Honestly, I think I'm kind of here for it.
Um, it's not what I would happen eventually. Yeah. It's not what I would choose to buy, you know, given the choice.
I would prefer to have something that does have a wired port, but there's
always the option of just, you know, buying the pro model or not buying an
iPhone, both of which are totally valid options. Also my response to this sort of hinges on the existence of sort of all three
options in the market. So the air, which doesn't seem like it's going to replace the regular
iPhone, the regular iPhone, and then also the pro.
So I would assume you're going to have kind of your portless one, your USB
to one with a port. So you can actually charge via a cable, but data transfer is slow.
And then your, you know, professional model that just has a proper USB port on it.
Um, I don't, I don't love how much Apple charges for these more, you know,
premium versions of their products, but seeing the way that most people use
their phones these days, um, especially iPhone users who are just like Meg safe.
Like, why would anyone live without Meg safe? It's just so obvious and they, they wirelessly charge all the time.
Uh, I could absolutely see iPhone users just saying, yeah, no, I want, I want the
air and man, I got to tell you, I think, I think I was talking about this
on my intro recently. I picked up my iPhone six S recently, like just literally picked it up.
Like I picked it up out of the drawer that I keep it in. And I was like, man, that's light.
You know, even my note nine compared to like every modern device that I've
unboxed on ShortCircuit recently, it's like, man, this is sleek.
Like devices have, they've gone non-sleek.
And if Apple kind of brings that back as a trend now that SOCs have gotten
a little bit more efficient now that battery technology has improved a little
bit, maybe, maybe I'm here for it. I, cause I don't need two day battery.
I just need solid one day battery.
Uh, with that said, man, I got to say spoiler, the one spoiler that I'll
give you guys for the switching to Mac for a month, um, is not thinking
about charging either of my devices.
It's crazy. Like, dude, I, um, I've been using this since I left Singapore.
I don't know, a thousand hours ago or whatever. I used it extensively on the plane to, to like listen to, um, listen to
something in my headphones. I just, you know, drown out crying babies and stuff like that on the plane.
Um, let's compare. I, I, I got down to like 2% before I had my, my post-plane, you know,
bath and then I basically plugged it in while I was in my nap and while I
was having a nap in my bed.
Comparatively form a coherent sentence. And then I plugged into my car and my way here, I have 77% and it's just like,
so you've done all that. I have practically not used my phone today at all.
No calls, no video. Yeah. And for probably like 15 minutes of intentional screen on usage time, where
I was just in text messaging apps, like teams or Slack or whatever else.
That's it. My phone's at 82. I very occasionally, I very, very occasionally will have this behave like
an Android, uh, where it'll get like really hot or for some reason that I
can't really identify and, and like behave strangely.
Like I've had a lot of weird bugs on with iOS 18.
I'm not pleased with the software. Um, but not nearly to the same degree that I have with Android.
My brightness is at like 70%. Okay. It was like turned brightness down.
So here we go. I have 17 hours and 31 minutes of screen on time because Plex, I don't think
supports or I don't have it enabled. Maybe it does support it, but Plex doesn't support, um, screen off background play.
So if I'm just like, one of my sleep strategies is I listen to reruns of shows
that I've watched a hundred times. So I don't, I don't need to see anything.
I'm not actually looking at my screen. I'm just like listening to this content that is fine, but it's just repetitive.
It's, it's boring and it drowns out people talking much more effectively
than, um, like white noise for me. And then the other thing is that music will keep me awake 100%.
I cannot listen to music and sleep. So, so TV shows are my go-to for when I'm trying to sleep.
So yeah, so you can see here, actually I've got my, my battery thing.
I have since, yeah, it has no idea what time is for me.
So since about six AM, uh, of the previous day, I guess, you know,
six PM of yesterday, I have 17 hours and 31 minutes of screen time,
a bunch of Plex, a bunch of YouTube, a bunch of 18% of my activity is no
cell coverage, whatever that means. Um, 11% is Safari, but like that's freaking, I think that's your, your cell radio
searching for towers, which takes a lot of battery to turn that off.
So yeah, that should give you some idea. And then I only have like a couple hours of it since I, since I zapped it.
So like even me being like irresponsible with my phone and not, you know,
properly turning off radios to conserve power, like I can get like 16 hours of
screen time on it or whatever. I never use my phone that heavily.
So I think I, I said in my switched to iPhone video, I basically didn't charge
my phone sometimes for a week at a time because I would just plug it into my
car when I'm, when I'm using carpet, you don't have to. It supports wireless car play as does my car, but it's just a habit that I have.
Um, and it, and it meant that I never had to think about charging my phone
cause I would just. Regardless of usage, if I don't charge my phone overnight, I'm screwed.
Oh yeah. A hundred percent. Completely. I just checked mine.
Um, I had more screen time than I thought. I had 25 minutes in Slack.
I had 10 minutes in teams and I had two minutes on authenticator. I think the reason why there's more screen time is I just put my phone down,
but that also means that after a minute or whatever it dimmed.
Yeah. So I, I, cause I guarantee you I wasn't actually using Slack for half an hour on
my phone. Um, so, and that's all it was.
And I've already almost lost 20% of my battery life. So like, it's almost like knowing Luke is phones probably from, from 2016.
It's not brand new, but it's an eight pro. It's not that old.
Yeah. Pixel pixel. Yeah. Yeah.
Um, and like, man, my laptop is sitting here.
Right. It, I started the show with like more, less than I think, less than half my battery.
And it's just sitting here in case I need to use it and screens on.
It's just chilling. I know it's going to last the entire show.
Like if there's, if there's anything that I love about just these Apple devices,
it's that the battery management is just plain superior.
And yeah.
Windows and, uh, Android devices absolutely can benchmark similarly to Apple,
but from my experience in the real world, once you've actually, once you're not in
a controlled environment, doing like a battery test, right?
They just don't handle it as well. They just don't manage background tasks as well.
They're not as aggressive. And so once you've got them, once you've got your device loaded up with apps,
once you're actually kind of using it, once you have notifications coming in,
they just don't handle it as consistently.
Um, all right, bring back replaceable battery says crappy TP.
I mean, that's not even, that's not even the issue that I'm talking about here.
Um, yeah. Arguin says just checking Mr. Who's the boss did iPhone 16 versus S24 Ultra test Samsung one.
Yeah. There's a couple, a couple of things to consider there. One is that that S24 Ultra probably has an internal battery that's like double
the capacity of the iPhone. It's remarkable how efficient these things are, how little battery Apple has
to put in these, how little RAM they have to put in them, what Apple will do in
their software to minimize the bomb cost of the hardware.
Um, and then the other thing is that he probably did that in a controlled
environment where both phones were wiped fresh and then, and then tested
because that's the like, and that's not even the wrong thing to do.
That's the right thing to do when you are testing something is you, you
eliminate variables. And so because there's no way to just take two phones that have been, you
know, used for two weeks and say with confidence that they're in the same
equal state, that's how you do it.
Um, argument says that's fair. Didn't consider the size of the battery, but you shouldn't.
I'm, to be clear, I'm not making an argument that the test is like somehow
unfair because Apple had less battery. This is the device that Apple chose to ship.
So the test is 100% fair. That's like, if I were saying that, that would be like one of those arguments
where, uh, you know, people will complain when you do like a CPU review that
like, well, you're comparing against the brand that I likes last generation.
So you have to wait until their new one comes out before you get shut up.
No, I don't, because for someone buying something today, some hypothetical
future thing that exists doesn't exist yet. So this is, this is what it is.
Um, but man, I don't see that argument as much anymore, but back in like the
peak, I think AMD Intel fanboy days of probably like the mid two thousands, it
was all over the place and it was just exhausting, just exhausting hearing
people talk about how the test was unfair to their brand of choice.
Like, good Lord, they're not a sports team. You do not need to cheer for them.
They're a corporation for that matter, sports teams are corporations and you don't really need to cheer for them either, but that's a whole and often used
for like really shady money practices.
What? I don't, I don't know, I don't know much about this, so you don't have to
pay taxes and all this other crazy stuff. Like why do all these rich people buy sports teams?
I actually all care about sports and then yeah, a lot of it has to do with
like, um, hiding from taxes and stuff.
I don't remember exactly how all the loopholes work, but there's like big financial loopholes with having a sports team.
Why is everything a tax avoidance grift? Yeah.
That's not an answer. Yeah. I pay my taxes.
Yeah. Everyone should have to pay their taxes if I have to pay mine.
Yeah, you'd think.
Okay. It's very cool.
What? Seriously? People are like, yeah, don't people are like, yeah, this is like a thing.
Oh, it's totally a thing. Yeah. What the heck?
Yep. Because something about like the depreciation, like so that a lot of the
assets actually get paid for effectively by the city because the city wants
the sports team. Oh yeah, that I know. But then all the assets that you own technically, even though they're
effectively funded by the city are depreciating all the time.
So you can write the depreciation of this like enormous stadium and all these
other things down on the rest of your taxes.
Um, but then the stadium keeps getting funded by the city.
So it ends up being this like, as long as you're making money elsewhere, it's this like incredibly profitable because of tax loophole thing.
I think that's how it works. It's been a while since I looked at it. No, I remember reading a fair bit about that when the, when the Phoenix
coyotes like couldn't get something, something, the city was mad because,
um, because of that, because they basically like paid for this thing and got
absolutely no return on it or whatever. And they were talking about moving the team or something and it was a whole,
it was a whole thing. So yeah, basically owners will just hold the team hostage unless cities
acquiesce to their demands. And I remember it compounds too, because like the players are all aging.
So I think you can like write that down to a certain degree as well.
I remember reading an article about how like not once in the history of these
deals has a, has a city ever actually been able to show a clear return on the
investment that they've made into sports teams. With that said, I don't know, I do think there is a return.
Yeah, I, I don't, I don't know that you could easily measure that because
there's a clear expectation that if you're like a proper North American
city, you like have a big arena and you have a sports team and you absolutely
use that arena for other things. But then my understanding is that the owner of the arena, which tends to be
that private company benefits from the other things it gets used for, like
concerts or whatever else, but like, so, man, see, that's the thing is it's
hard to assign a value to like arts and culture and, you know, to having,
having prominent artists come to, you know, your city.
Yeah, apparently, yeah, the, the, the value of the players reduce and you
write that off on taxes as well. Yeah, I thought so. So it's like, it's the stadium and all of your assets and all of your players
and like literally everything that you have just constantly depreciates in value.
So you write that all off and then it gets all funded by the city.
So you're not even, of course, you're paying for some of it, but you're not even paying for like a lot of it anyways.
And then it's like it itself is not always, but sometimes a cash cow.
So you just make money off it too and then write it all off. And it's just, yeah.
Meanwhile, it takes me like months to even just get a building permit to put
in our bad victim center. Yeah, it's pretty sick. Oh yeah. I should probably provide a little bit more clarity on the, the conversation
last week about fire egress. I had some people very mad at me because I apparently don't respect the
importance of fire egress. I did not give every possible detail of the situation.
Let me just put it this way. I do understand not because I just understand, but because this has been a
project on my list of projects for over a year and a half.
And as part of it being a project, I spoke to experts and consultants.
And guys, chill.
The reason that I said that the whole thing doesn't make sense and like that the
differences don't matter is because they don't make sense.
And the differences don't matter. That we have already established now and we're moving forward.
Like the thing that I was kind of going off about was something that had like
been dealt with and I didn't make that clear last week. So there were some people who were extremely mad at me.
Yeah, there's a comment that said like the fire code is written in blood.
It's like, yeah, for sure. Yes. But that was part of the reason that I also brought up the arbitrary changes to
the fire code, like how we used to have to build two stairwells onto a mezzanine.
And then they were just like, oh, actually forget it.
So like, yes, the fire code is, is logical and rational and makes sense.
But also sometimes doesn't, and they decide it needs to change.
Things should have changes over time. And sometimes those things that change, you know what, honestly, are just
because of costs or lobbying pressure or whatever else.
So let's not maybe they shouldn't have changed. So maybe they shouldn't have changed. Maybe you should actually have two stairwells down from an above ground space.
Maybe you actually should, but maybe that was just like too expensive and impractical.
So it's always a balancing act. And the point of the conversation last week is not changed by any of these little details.
The point is that regulation can absolutely be a good thing, but applied poorly.
It can absolutely just get in the way of getting anything done.
That was the point. I was trying to show how I see both sides of that argument and have personally
experienced both sides of that argument.
Crystal chat says this, oh, my fucking God.
It's like people assume that you maybe don't have any resources around you.
Yes. And you know what? And you know what?
Sometimes I do make mistakes, right? Like obviously I do make mistakes sometimes.
No, in this case, it turned out to not be my mistake, but that's not the assumption
that generally gets made. And it feels like a really weird situation that I've kind of found myself in as
someone who does issue corrections and as someone who does talk about what I make
mistakes, that that seems to be harmful to my reputation.
But I'd like to issue a reminder that you should trust someone who issues
corrections and someone who admits their mistakes more than someone who doesn't
admit their mistakes and just doubles down and is a weasel.
But we do. We care. Actually, speaking of mistakes, we had an error in one of our videos this week.
Yesterday, we posted an LTT video. What fixing the 50 90s power connector near the end of the original upload.
We showed an email from MSI where they claimed that only the FE cards, the
founders edition cards, have the design to run all the pins to a single pad on
the PCB. It turns out that this statement from MSI is false.
In fact, the PCI spec calls for them all to be combined.
So the only 50 90 that we're aware of now that doesn't immediately combine
power on the board is ASUS's ROG Astral card, the design of which was
mentioned in an email from ASUS that was also shown in the video, but we could have verbally pointed this out as well.
Per our policies, we've removed the offending segment of the video and
posted a correcting comment. Big thanks to buildzoid who pointed out that error in the most efficient
possible manner in the interest of making sure that the community is well
informed by recording a video of himself, uploading it, waiting around for it
to process, and then publishing it. That was definitely the most efficient way.
If the absolute number one priority was making sure that the community gets
the information that they need in a timely manner, we're not perfect.
We'll never be perfect, but what I can do is assure you guys that we are
genuinely striving to make the best videos we can. And in this case, maybe we should have just skipped that.
Maybe we should have just not bothered talking about that. I don't know.
I don't know what the fine line you guys want us to balance is here,
because the point of the video clearly wasn't that, but I think we felt
really pressured to cover every base when really the point of the video was
to just be top gear tech, tech, tech, top gear. I mean, there was even, it was pointed out on Reddit, there was a caveat.
Was it in that video? I'm not even sure, but there was a caveat that was in a video where it was
like Linus is not actually running this test.
Just in case he like did something wrong in the footage, it was, and everyone's
like, Oh, that's unnecessary. And then there's a bunch of people in the comments pointing out like,
Uh, actually it kind of is. Cause people like would have pixel peeped what exactly you had done.
I know if you had done it wrong, they would have ripped it apart. Yeah, I know. I don't know.
I think, I think one minor thing that could have been done here, which like,
this is a nitpick and you'll never catch all of these. So I don't know what it is, what it is.
But I think it was said as a statement supported by the emails when you could
have maybe said just they claim.
Yeah. Instead of this is a fact because we have these emails, you could just say they
claim that might help a little bit. Ultimately though, I agree.
It's, it super wasn't the point of the video. And I, I don't want us to stop doing stuff like that because we're worried
about these types of things. And I got to be honest with you. Like I, I am sort of, I'm sort of blown away that they screwed this up.
Um, a surprising people pointed out. Like, Oh, it's just a PR person.
It's a PR person in the email. It literally says that they talked to people about it.
Like they, they, they went and got resources. Um, just because it's a PR person, it doesn't mean that they're like incapable
of accessing information or accessing the people that have information that is
often quite literally their job. Um,
what's more surprising about it to me is just how, how, I guess it's one of those
like look that close and you say blue and I'm just like, okay, uh, Luke sent me
an email, his shirt is blue.
What it would be the point of you lying to me about that because of in a way,
how easily verifiable it was. Yeah. And it was exactly why we didn't feel the need to verify it because why would you
lie about that, that it could be worded in a different way? Like my God, I don't know at a certain point, like it's a video of, can we get
another connector on the card? Like and, and to be clear, I'm not, I'm not downplaying in any way, the
validity of the feedback. Totally. Yeah, it's, it's, it's valid and I would like it to be fixed.
I don't want there to be something wrong in one of our video and the video is fixed.
Yeah. The video is fixed now. As soon as we were made aware, we, we took action according to our, according
to our corrections policies, right? Like that's, that's what we do.
Yeah. But like it, I shouldn't have to check something like that.
The fact that we do is great to know, you know, now we're kind of sitting here
going, okay, well, if NVIDIA tells us how many CUDA cores a GPU has.
So do we have to check every sample to make sure, you know, um, and maybe the
answer is yes, but like, people, people literally were mad at us for that,
which like, really? Oh, I didn't even catch that.
Some people were like not spotting, just in case, just in case people aren't
aware of what we're talking about. There was, I don't remember exactly what video it was, but we got official slides
from NVIDIA that had, cause, oh, what, uh, companies make mistakes sometimes,
even when they're like massive, huge, enormous company.
What, no way. Uh, yeah. NVIDIA made a mistake.
They put the wrong number on the slide. Oh, I wasn't even talking about that. I was talking about the scandal where some of the ROPs were missing on, on a NVIDIA says,
I mean, that's a little more major, like less than 5% of the cards or something
like that, but yeah, some of them just shipped with not enough ROPs.
Yeah, I'm talking about is there, there was, yeah, there was a slide from them that
was slightly wrong. KG4WN says, have you verified Luke's real name?
Perhaps the hospital with the birth certificate was incorrect. That's true.
Why is my first name English and my last name French? You need to start saying this is the person who claims to be Luke.
Yeah, good call. And so, yeah, I got, I got to be, I got to be honest with you guys.
If they had made a claim that was potential, that seemed like it could
potentially be false, like, like they could get away with it there.
That's, that's, that was the assumption I made was that what they were saying was
clearly something that they weren't going to get away with if it was false.
So why do I need to check this?
And the answer is apparently because I just like need to, but it was just, it was
so far aside from the point of the content, of the point of what we were trying to do.
We were trying to raise awareness about this issue in a fun, entertaining way.
That's what we do. That's what we do, I think, as well as, if not better than anyone in the tech
space, that's what we do. We talk about what we think people need to know and we try and make it as engaging
as possible. Yeah, you know, like some people in the community understood that and some people
didn't, and I think the, I think some of this, like, I think it's redirected or
misdirected anger around tech stuff right now is just going to push people away
and make the community smaller, because it's not, it's not fun.
It's not inviting.
Yeah, I'm, I don't know. No, I don't want to get into that again today.
Definitely makes me sad, but yeah, I enjoyed that video.
I legitimately had a ton of fun and I'm not going to.
Such a cool concept. Yeah, I don't think we should, I was talking to someone about this earlier.
I really strongly do not think that we should risk not doing those things.
And I think risk is actually the right term.
I think we should still have fun. And I think we should still, you know, not necessarily go to mile 10,000 with
everything. Like if you just want to kind of dabble with something and screw around, I think
that's fine. I don't think we should lose sight of being able to do things kind of quickly,
kind of jankily for fun, because sometimes that's as much as you want to do.
And that's as much depth as there is to it being fun and going further would
make it not fun. And to be clear, there's room for analytical content that isn't about the
fun. I mean, PSU circuit is a perfect example of that.
Totally. Right place, right time.
Oh man. So many people seem to be very, very confused about why we use the AI voice.
Really? Yeah, because they're like, well, it would only take like three minutes for a
person to read the script or four minutes or whatever.
So the reason that we use the AI voice is because it automates the editing.
So yes, Emily spends a couple hours, like two or three hours lining everything
up, but with a human voice with the ums and us where you're actually editing
like a, like a flawed human take, we can't automate the actual cutting of the footage.
So if you guys pay very close attention to these videos, which I don't really
expect anybody to do because they're just not really the point. Yeah, it's not really the point of it.
If you pay very close attention, the entire thing is templatized.
So the entire flow of the video is identical every time and the actual timing
of the clips is automated to the greatest degree that we can.
So using an AI voice makes that automated editing process more efficient and in
the future can make it more efficient or as time goes on.
I would love, I would absolutely love for this channel to, you know, be a
super valuable resource for people and for it to start getting some, some views
and some affiliate revenue and whatever else. And I would love for us to pivot and make it a fully human hosted channel at
some point in the future, more like ShortCircuit where you've got a host kind
of reading out the test report, injecting a little bit of personality and flavor.
You've got editors spending, you know, anywhere from six to 10 hours working on
it, but, you know, I, the, the, the entitlement of people who are attacking
me for not being willing to lose more money on this channel is.
I, I don't see a lot of that personally. Oh, dude.
I believe you, but I don't, I don't see a lot of that. No, this has all the destiny does all these things and you can't, you can't get
a person to read the fit. But guys, it's not the point.
It's not the point. The point is that it's a data sheet. It's a data sheet NVIDIA form.
And I'm sorry that it's not losing enough money for you.
Every single one of those uploads is a loss.
And I don't have a clear path to it being anything other than a loss.
Not the goal, even. It's not the goal.
So chill.
It's all good. It's all good. You can check out if, uh, you know, a power supply that you're considering
buying has been tested, you can see our test report. It's all good.
Or you could just go to lttlabs.com. Um, yeah, which looks all cool now and stuff.
Dude, the site is like actually kind of amazing now. I'm, I'm extremely excited for us to, uh, beef up the team.
Oh, do you, I, hey, uh, any, any progress on those postings?
Yeah, we had, we had interviews this week. Oh, sick. We have interviews next week.
Oh, sick. We have interviews the week after that. Oh, sick. Okay. So we've had applications then.
Yeah. There's, there's a potential change to the job description of the writer position
that might be happening, but all the other ones are full steam ahead.
Okay. Um, and just because there was a change to the job description, the writer one
doesn't necessarily mean, um, we're, we're tossing all the applicants out.
The, the problem is we're shifting it from a senior role to a junior role.
That's not actually, it does reduce the budget, but it's not for budget reasons.
It's for like team organization reasons. I think the plan behind it is actually really cool.
I don't know if I should necessarily talk about that on the show. Does that make sense?
Maybe, maybe not. Uh, either way, my brain is not working today.
So go ahead and do whatever you want. Sure. Yeah. But we're, we're changed the, we had a bunch of meetings and we decided to
change the scope of the role a little bit, um, and change some of the
responsibilities and all this kind of stuff. So, um, there were some applicants that seemed to be more junior applicants
that were applying through aspiration. So we might keep those resumes.
We might repost the job description to collect more if we feel like we don't
have a large enough pool from there. Um, but yeah, that one is changing a little bit.
The rest are staying the same. Um, yeah.
Cool. Moving on. I think we have explained to do merch messages.
Oh, this is weird. Have you ever seen this before?
What? There's a dislike button, but it says disabled by owner.
Is that a thing? I've genuinely no clue what that means.
Cause I could click it. I don't see that.
Mine doesn't show that. What?
What does that mean? I'm on it. You can look at mine. Yeah, this is mine.
What if I click it? I've seen a couple, I've seen a couple of comments, um, from people accusing us
of disabling the dislike button, but I've never seen disabled for me.
I've never seen the interface thing that they're talking about. What is this 603 said?
Is this an AB test? It might be an AB test that might be actually a setting that we have.
Um, and no, I don't think heard of that. I don't think I have. Oh, I do have return YouTube dislike.
Hold on. So what if I remove it?
I haven't used it in ages.
The refresh. Oh, I wonder if it's just to do with that extension.
Oh yeah. There you go. Wait, what? And my dislike, even though it said disabled before my dislike clearly is still,
it was registered because it's still showing. What does that even mean?
Huh. Interesting. Is it, is it like, so it's user error.
All right, cool. Well, yeah, sorry.
We have so much to hide that we, uh, that we removed our dislike button.
Feel free to put that in your pile of things to be mad at me about. But actually it turns out that you're just using a random extension in your browser.
Linus is for censorship. So good job. He's taking my ability to dislike away.
Yep.
What a mean guy. I'm basically awful. What a big mean guy.
Um, go buy, uh, go buy an MSI GPU with honey.
Didn't any get removed from the store? Oh, Chrome, I think. Oh, we don't, dude, we have an update on that this week, actually.
Oh, speaking of which, uh, wait, where's the, where's the thing?
Why is this not in here? I definitely want to talk about honey right now. That sounds awesome.
Do you? I definitely saw it earlier. Yeah, it's, oh yeah, there it is. I found it.
It's definitely not actually about honey. Oh, okay. Sweet.
Yeah. In the near future, if you are watching an old LCT video, you might have noticed
that we have cut out our old sponsor spot and added in a YouTube ad in its place.
Uh, we're talking to you about this because we have, like I said, in my original
response to, um, a mega leg, um, you know, just kind of willy nilly cutting our
back catalog is not something that, you know, we're going to be able to do
immediately, we have sort of a bit of a heavier ship to steer, given our back
catalog is something like 10,000 videos at this point, um, and that our policy
up until now and our agreements with our partners up until now have not included
any of that. Um, but I did say back then that it would be something that we would look at and
something that we would explore. So we have done that. The wheels have been turning in the background and we're ready to talk about it.
So, uh, yeah, if you, if you have kind of a jarring experience watching our videos,
it is because we are going to be cutting some old sponsor spots and adding
YouTube ads in their place. Um, the reason for this is we want to do a better job of policing our back
catalog to make sure that people aren't wasting time watching ads for companies
that we either no longer support, uh, for various reasons.
This can come down to their policies, any actions that they've taken or refused
to take for our users, um, or companies that are no longer relevant.
Like maybe no longer exist. So obviously at the top of that list is honey.
We have cut out or removed over 120 honey sponsorship reads and our team is
working on getting the rest done by next week.
There are probably going to be in a next week. There are probably going to be some, um, some casualties.
Uh, I believe there are two videos that are being removed from the channel.
Whole videos. Yeah. Uh, I'm trying to find the, I'm trying to find the chat where
Colton and James were talking about it. Yeah. So we did a shopping stream for prime day one year and then we also, they're
both actually prime day shopping streams.
Um, and because honey was so deeply integrated into the video, just chop
out a segment was like a banner across the bottom of the whole thing.
Uh, what we've decided to do is simply unlist those videos.
Also, I figured out a way to loop me in to the, the evil that's going on with
the dislike button. Oh, uh, we have dislikes on Floatplane.
Oh, so you were just trying to create more value for Floatplane.
Feature differentiation. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, dislike, but I think I'll pay for it.
It's about time anyone kind of lumped you in with all of my evilness because
you've clearly been here and complicit for 14 years or whatever.
Dodging bullets. Good gravy. Is it that long? Is it, it's probably about right.
14 years. Yeah. Holy f**k.
I think we're, I think we're like very close to 15 too.
Technically. Yeah, it's been a long time.
It's been a long time. I was telling you recently, like it's literally not going to be very long
until this will have been half my life. That's crazy.
We're not there yet. A few years away, but we'll get there. Anyway, if you see any of our other videos with honey spots in them after next
week, once the team has had a chance to go through, please email infoatlinusmediagroup.com
so we can get those removed. I don't think we're ready to talk about what our policy is going to be for what
gets removed or what doesn't. But what I can tell you is it's going to be a little fuzzy.
No, the plan is not to scrub through the entire 10,000 view, 10,000 video history.
I don't think that's necessarily practical, nor do I think that it necessarily
makes sense, but if we have videos that are old, but are still reaching a certain
threshold of current, like current day viewership, then I think those are ones
that we're going to want to look at. But if there's videos that are getting like three views a year from 11 years
ago, I don't think we're going to go back and we're going to like cut out
sponsor spots for five, four clothing or whatever. Like I don't think that actually makes a ton of sense and is good use of people's
time. So we're going to have to try to find a good balance between making sure
that we're managing our back catalog, but also not just like wasting people's
time with mind numbing, um, morale destroying work.
So we'll try and find a good balance for you guys there.
Question. Are we just leaving everything up on flow plane? Cause I know there's no ad spots, but you're saying they were moving entire
videos, so we're just leaving those videos on flow, people are asking. Uh, yeah, I, it's probably fine.
I would think it's fine to just leave it on flow plane. Yeah, I'm sure someone will find a way to turn that into a scandal at some point,
but, uh, you're, uh, endorsing honey and private.
Yeah. Yeah, hiding it behind its gated community behind my paywall help yourself.
You just have to endorse honey and you do it through ways that the people pay for
it, the most vulnerable whale users. I'm exploiting their, their addiction to people who trust you the most Linus.
Yes. Wow. That's pretty good.
Wow. Yeah. Good job.
Okay. What else? What else? We've got some announcements. Oh yeah.
We're supposed to explain merch messages. Hey, merch messages are the way to interact with the show.
We don't do the other things. Um, super chats, quick bits.
Thank you. Those things. Quick bits is a technique.
Bits. Bits on, uh, what's your excuse?
Twitch bids. Right after I said it, I was like, uh-oh.
I didn't even catch it. Quick bits.
Uh, um.
Cool. So, right, because if you're going to throw money at your screen, we believe
that you should get something in return. So how about a great LTT reversible bomber jacket?
It's back, folks. It's the jacket made for the indecisive or the stylish or both.
We saw a ton of you guys were looking for these.
So we brought them back. Luke and I are wearing the same jacket.
I believe this is the only reversible garment that we've ever done.
And this is a really funny one for me because I never got one.
Oh, really? Yeah. I like forgot and got lazy.
Like that's the thing about being allowed to have anything you want from the store
is that sometimes you kind of go, oh, I'll get it later.
And then you don't get it. And then you're like, oh, fuck.
Because the run rate wasn't high enough to do a reorder. And it's like, okay, well, I missed it.
I never, I didn't get any of our Merino underwear. I have two samples of it, like pre-release samples that don't fit right.
Because they were pre-release and then I never got any of the actual production.
You want to know something really tragic? I have none of the full plain exclusive ones.
What? Because they all went so fast that I couldn't do the internal request form.
And I just asked for them directly and it just like didn't happen.
That's hilarious. So in the future, I just have to buy them, which is fine.
That's pretty funny. But the thing that really pains me is that I can't get them.
I was like, I will buy it. It's no problem, but they don't, they're gone. There's no way that we're going to ask Marco to do like one for you.
Yeah, exactly. Doesn't make sense. Yeah, he probably even still has the screens for it.
But we're not going to, I'm not going to be like, because he could do it.
But I, there's no way I would ask him to do that.
Is I'm not even the only person from flow plain that is like, oh, I didn't get it.
Christmas party. I could do a surprise run of all of them.
No, if we ever acquire our own
we just got to be more on it printing gear and stuff, then I think we could do
stuff that makes absolutely no sense like that. But as it is, then it doesn't mean when we have an external partner,
like I think we try not to be nice any more than we absolutely have.
It's a whole thing to load up the screen and stuff, isn't it? Like, well, yes and no, like, like they do prototypes.
Like they'll do one turn for us aspirational.
Yeah, it's not knowing this is the only one you're going to.
Yes, yes. And you know what? Honestly, our T-shirt printing guy is awesome.
And, you know, sometimes he will even do stuff where he'll be like, yeah,
I like what you guys did, but also here's a version that has a couple more colors that I thought would look really cool.
And like, so he'll do stuff like that. Like he's clearly willing to put in the work.
But I just, I don't like asking people to do something that makes no sense
for their business in general. No, for sure. Yeah, I'm not sorry.
Sorry. Yes, I'm fixing. I'm fixing the collar. Anyway, the point is that there we go.
Luke and I are wearing the same jacket right now. Oh, did I not know it's the front now?
Oh, there you go. There you go. Sorry about that. Luke and I are wearing the same reversible bomber jacket.
It has the most subtle LTT branding of all time.
Yes, we have a black on black. Right there logo that you can kind of make out.
If you look at it from the side and then the puffs,
the puffs make little LTTs.
I thought that was really cute when I first saw that. See this, there's a T and there's a there's another T.
There's an L in there. It's far easier to just see the T's.
There's an L in there somewhere. Yeah, yeah, they're in there somewhere.
I think the L's are made with the little square. So the bottom of the L is actually closed off.
So it's not as easy to see, but it is there. Yeah, so by default, it's stealth stealthy and sleek.
And by not default, it is vibrant orange with LTT quilted all over it.
It's weather resistant and slightly insulated to keep you warm,
but not too warm during the spring and also as a total of nine
zippered pockets on both sides, so you can carry all the things.
It's available now at LMG.GG slash bomber.
Also, we have some Floatplane announcements after the quick sex right before you go.
I just want to show this because not everyone notices it. But someone asked me for like the sizing of it for tall people.
I would recommend that it's just it's small, but you can click on the size guide
and they have like actually pretty good size guides for like practically everything.
So yeah, open that little little modal up and check it out.
I didn't realize how well reviewed this product was. Oh, it's literally five stars.
Yeah, it is an excellent jacket. Our our goal, I believe, is like four and a half or something.
Four point eight eight out of five, huh?
That's pretty good. Man, for for a company that has struggled so much to sell our jackets,
we sure make good. I like it actually genuinely I bring every opportunity I have
or bring this jacket up and I think we're never making it again or something.
But the the breaker that know the 3D down the 3D down.
We're never making the 3D down again. It looks incredibly sharp.
I know like it's a really attractive jacket. It's probably like the nicest clothing item I own.
It's super, super comfortable. Everyone that I've like handed it to is like, oh, wow, this is really nice.
And I'm like, yeah, but we just it was like too expensive
for people to not be able to try it on. I think that's a big part of it.
I also think that we could have marketed the material that we were using,
the like 3D printed like feather based material that was super thin.
I think we could have marketed it better. Like we're it's tough.
We're still we're still learning. Like we're we're still pretty new at the whole like physical goods business.
And we've been hyper focused on just like making really good products.
And for years, we just kind of relied on the sheer volume of traffic
that we could drive to the site from our channel to to sell it.
But we need to get way better at marketing and we are getting better.
Like just our product photography is so much better now. Yeah, that's yeah.
Already in the team of a great job of like our copy is so much better now.
That's a copy. Like we're we are improving, but these things just time like look at this banner.
Yeah, like it's actually really cool and like this one was sick.
Like we just I don't know. There's there's things that are really coming along that like it makes it feel like a it makes it feel like a real story.
The site needs improvement. Yeah, we know that though. We know that there's a redesign that's being worked on.
I don't know this, but I'm going to make a little assumption that the work being done on the redesign is being somewhat impacted
by tariff stuff going on, because it's probably not as big of a focus anymore.
Oh, dude, the team's been like, oh, yeah, I mean, look,
I mean, we're not the only ones, so I'm not going to sit here and complain like it's a unique situation that's impacting us.
But the team's just been like working on things
and then effectively has to drop everything.
All gets tossed out the window and go figure out just completely
unnecessary bullshit that. Yeah, yeah, it's like all the companies above the border
and some companies below the border to it's a lot of people. But yeah, I think I think if I can make an assumption,
they've probably shifted their focus a little bit to that more than the redesign, which totally makes sense.
So the redesign is is coming. I don't know when it's going to happen, but it's coming.
And then hopefully it'll look a little bit nicer. The main thing that we ran into, in my opinion,
is we just have too much stuff now. Like the design for the store that we had was fine
when you have like a few shirts, maybe one or two other things. It's a merch store.
Yeah. And now we're like even more not a merch store.
I know. Like we were only really a merch store back in like,
I'm guessing like 2017. We've talked in the past about like separating the store
for like, you know, tools and clothing and whatever.
But it's like, how do we do that? We have like two tools, you know?
Like we talked about when, because the cables are coming up soon
and we've talked about, OK, well, maybe we should like launch a cable brand.
And it's like, right, but we're going to start with just USB cables like it.
And then we lose the strength of the LTT brand.
I think you could do it once you have like really a proper like line of products.
Yeah, I guess, but the problem is it takes us so long
to develop a whole lineup of products because and a big part of it
is that we refuse to make a product that just doesn't have a reason to exist.
Like we've gone, dude, we have prototyped so many tools,
whether it's like, you know, tweezers or like, like, like disassembly tools or
Taryn was showing me a bag the other day that will never see the light of day.
Like we prototype so much stuff and then we just ask ourselves,
you know, what is the point of this? You know, what is its place in the market?
What, what need does it serve? And like I've seen a lot of criticism of our products, right?
Because people are like, why would I buy that screwdriver
when I can get one from Harbor Freight for four dollars? And it's like, yeah, sure. Exactly.
Whenever I can't find my LTT screwdriver at home and I need a screwdriver
and I do find another one, I get like actually upset
and we'll keep looking for like a while before I'll give up.
Like, why isn't it where it's supposed to be? I don't want to use this other one.
Anyway. And if you want a Harbor Freight screwdriver, you can buy one.
Yeah, send it. But the thing is that we don't have a competitive edge
against a Harbor Freight screwdriver. And we're not trying. Which is being which is being designed, manufactured
and sold and brought to market in a completely different process
with a with a low cost at any cost mentality
that we're not going to be able to compete. I don't own a screwdriver factory, right?
So we're we're not going to be able to compete in that space.
We have to differentiate in another way. We differentiate through our customer service,
which has been a little slowly, but is still committed to quality.
Sure. Yes, I'm going to be fast. The quality of our customer resolution strategy.
Solid. Let's go with that. Through the through the trust me, bro, guarantee we we compete based on
making sure that we differentiate like our precision screwdriver set.
You know, there was that side remark from someone
that we cloned their precision screwdriver kit. We absolutely didn't.
Ours disassembles and stacks and has a magnetic parts tray built into it.
There's also wasn't the first one has longer shanks on the bit
so that you can reach into recessed spots more easily. It has a stronger magnet.
It also has a higher quality bearing. It has in handle bit storage in a metal
chassis. It's got all kinds of differences compared to other things.
And yeah, it's more expensive. It's more expensive because it just costs way more to make.
But that's what differentiates it. So we've had so many things in the prototype phase
that we've just ultimately not moved forward with because.
And maybe this is something that will change. Maybe this is something that will change where we actually do just say, OK,
look, we need a pair of flush cutters. And yeah, they are not going to be.
I think this is a I think the original goal of that whole thing was very noble.
I think eventually it makes sense to change once you have product categories
started where someone.
Might want. All of the stuff in this category to be from one brand or to to have a
people like that style identity, right? Yeah, color matching, general aesthetic similar to each other.
That quality that is dependable. Yeah, consistent enough.
Like, yeah, that that's totally a thing. So I just said Milwaukee tools.
Yeah, I mean, a lot of tools people like having, I mean, in a lot of those
categories, it's because of battery compatibility and whatnot. But a lot of people like having kind of like one brand of stuff that they have.
So I think getting into a category, you should probably only do it
if there's something new and good that you can bring to that market.
But once you're in that category, it's like, I don't know, whatever.
I'll take a multi hammer. Thank you, Conrad for that.
Wait, it could be a hammer and a bar of water.
Stop it.
Yeah, I don't know. And like, obviously it's a strategy that works for other brands.
Like I forget who it is, but some one of those worksite brands has like a radio.
Oh, like all of them. $200 or $250 because they have an espresso machine.
Yeah, like a rugged, rugged espresso machine for manly espresso drinkers.
Yeah, and it probably runs off the tool batteries. It does. They find a way, everything will run off the tool batteries.
Yeah, so, so, you know what, that's something that in the longer term,
maybe we do just have to kind of figure out and maybe we, you know, 3x
the engineering. I think that's a joke. Maybe we 3x the engineering team and then, yeah, we just make a hammer.
We make flush cutters. We make, you know, Ethernet crimps.
And as long as they're, as long as they're good enough and they're priced
reasonably ish, then, hey, we'll have that.
Oh my God, doesn't it come with a battery?
Good Lord. Of course they do. I don't know why.
I don't know why I doubted it. That photo of it just on the ground is so golden to me.
I'm gonna heat up my work hot pockets. Oh man.
Oh my God. Yeah, of course.
I think that we should do an espresso grinder.
Maybe there's a middle ground to be found here.
I don't think we need a microwave.
Now you have to. Can you imagine being the, like, engineer at Makita who's tasked with this?
I'm sorry, what? No, no, no. They would have a meeting.
They'd all be drunk and they'd just be like microwave. Oh my God, dude.
Yeah. Let's go. We'll get blue.
What a great idea. It's kind of safe. I bet you they sold these, to be honest.
Oh, I'd buy one. I would definitely buy one as like a flex.
Yeah. If you're on like a fairly remote job site and you own Makita stuff anyway
and they don't have any like, like, I don't know.
This is like if you gave Seb no budget or oversight.
Hey, you can do whatever you want. He's a blank job.
I repaired my life.
And Seb wouldn't build that. Made out of failed screwdriver shafts?
Seb would build a folding microwave.
Like, you can assemble it yourself.
Oh, man. I don't think we're going to do a pocket knife anytime soon.
And we're definitely not doing whatever that other, whatever that thing, that other person.
Oh, LTT pizza oven, though.
I like it. You could have a computer in it.
You could double as a computer case. It crypto mines.
But if you made a warming thing where it just, you mounted like a radiator to it,
like a computer radiator to it. I'd be down.
Didn't the PlayStation or the Xbox do that for like a pizza hut?
Pizza hut or something. Yeah. I don't know who it was.
Someone memed on that at some point. I can't remember. Yeah.
I can't remember exactly who. Was it KFC? Did a console?
KFC. Yeah. KFC.
Do you want a merch message? Have we actually done one yet? No.
Did we even explain what they are? Yeah, I did. Oh, wait.
We didn't explain how to send one. Oh, there we go. Oh, you go to LTT.
You go to LTT. I knew something was wrong.
You go to LTTStory.com.
You add something to your cart. You'll see a box.
There'll be a thing when we're live, the box.
Then you put a merch message in there and then when you place your order, it will go to
producer Dan. Hey, there it is. Look at that.
I would like to, I would like to merch message and this guy will look at it.
Am I bad at my job or are these guys just uncontrollable?
God, why not both?
Sure. Okay. I will now read you one of those things.
Nice. Hi, DLL.
Are there any updates regarding cable testing? I got scammed on a Type-C to DP cable recently.
It couldn't do 240 Hertz as advertised and I was wondering if Labs is going to do cable
testing. So we are currently working on cable testing from both ends of the organizational noodle.
The Creator Warehouse team is working on the development of our own cables and the Labs
team obviously is interested in using our cable tester.
But beyond being interested in it, I don't think we have much in the way of plans to
start publishing any kind of cable testing. We did a couple of LTT videos with our cable tester back in the day, but the thing that
we ran up against is that while it's a really cool device, it's limited in terms of what
it can test. We can't test anything that has a chip in it, so no optical cables, no Thunderbolt cables.
And we can't test past, I think it was, I'm probably going to get this wrong, it was either
10 gigabit per second, I think it was 10 gigabit per second or something like that, USB-C.
And USB-C now, or USB now goes to 20, 40 gigabit per second.
And is it like USB-4 Gen 2 or I can't remember the branding for it, but there is USB-4 branding
for what would be the Thunderbolt 5 data rates, but I don't know, I don't remember if they
need chips in the cables or if they like only work over very short runs.
I'm a little fuzzy on the details, I haven't had to do a video about it recently, so you'll
have to forgive me if I'm wrong, but either way, that cable tester would be getting nowhere
near 80 gigabit per second, it's just not fast enough.
And the tools that can get that fast are not so convenient as that device was.
They may have modules that can work for these faster data rates now, I don't think we've
looked into it for a while, but basically, short version of the story is that for the
development of our branded cables, we used a third party to do testing and validation,
because we do have cables that are going to be rated for 20 gigabit, and we needed to
be able to test those in a way that was reliable, can't just take anyone's word for it if we're
going to put our label on the product.
I'm very excited about the cables, they're chunky, they're like noticeably contribute
to the weight of what I'm carrying, but I trust it, it works every time.
There was a fun moment down in that city that we were in, doing the land house tour thing,
where if somebody was, I think we were talking about LTT Store and how we make good stuff,
and then somebody there was like- Oh no, I think they know where the city is, people know where the land house is, that's
in Austin. Yeah, I just wasn't sure, but somebody there was like, oh, you should make USB cables,
I'm so tired of all these ones, I don't remember, I think it was hobby radio operating, some
issue with some cable, and you were like, these ones, and pulled one out of your pocket,
that was a pretty fun one. And they looked at it, they were like, okay, how is it made, and I was like, oh, coaxial
all the things, and they were like, oh, yeah, it's going to be expensive, but there's people
that will have applications for them, and there are no other cables like this, as far
as my understanding goes, so it is what it is. They were like, it's pretty thick, there's no way every conductor is shielded in there,
and I'm like, don't make me cut it open.
Really don't make me cut it open. Last time we did that, it was a problem.
I feel like almost as a joke, you should cut one in half for the product page, show, not
even a joke, yeah. Yeah, no, we will, because we'll have cable stock, we still have cable stock, we have
cable stock now, we could show it to people. But yeah, no, they are very, very high quality cables, and I'm very, very excited for them
to arrive at some point eventually. We're working on it, we're going to do it right.
And then if USB cables are a success, we'd like to do more than that.
I don't think we're going to get into fiber optic anytime soon, so we're going to do quality
copper conductor cables, and then we will see how it goes, I mean, who knows, maybe
it'll be a huge smash hit for us, and we'll be like, oh, we'd be crazy to not invest in
figuring out optical cables, but we need to get this over the line first.
Yeah, gotta do one. Sometimes I wonder what our business would be like if we took a more like, just like,
go hard approach, like we kind of did a middle ground approach, and that didn't work very
well, where we hired people without proper management structures, but there's other ways
to do things, like you can go out and look at how Mr. Beast did Feastables.
It's not like he tried to be the CEO of a chocolate company, he just hired a team of
experienced people from the snack industry and was like, okay, go.
And you can see it reflected in the lower profitability, obviously.
I think the numbers were something like 30 million on 300 million in sales or something
like that. But still, that's like, that's healthy enough.
It's 30 million dollars. I was just surprised to see that he's apparently still losing money on the video production
side. They've taken what, like 450 million in investment.
Some of these, like, I don't know, I hear ya.
Some of the stuff that they do though, it's like, oh God, yeah, that would be really expensive.
Like unfathomably expensive.
I just don't really understand why he bothers to do that anymore.
Some of the more humanitarian philanthropic stuff, sure, yeah, absolutely.
But some of the just like spectacular stuff. A lot of that's on another channel. Yeah.
But some of the, well, not always. Like the blindness one was not. Yeah, he just, he has Mr. Beast philanthropy.
Oh, no, I know. But just like the, for the, just the spectacle videos, I just feel like he doesn't really,
he's such a creative guy. I feel like he just doesn't have to rely on a big price tag anymore, but he, and sometimes
it's not just, you know, like a bigger prize or a more expensive, you know, Lamborghini
and a crushing machine or whatever. Like sometimes it comes more down to elaborate sets and, and just doing things in a, in a
novel way. But I, it just seems like at some point it might be nice to, to make that a sustainable
machine as well.
Those things could both be true. That's a nice hat.
I love how, I love how he got like super canceled and just, it didn't matter at all.
Just looking at his channel right now. Well, I mean, it's not like he's, you know, his influence is important or anything.
It's not like he's, he, you know, an error on a graph could potentially make someone
buy the wrong graphics card and regret it for the rest of their life. That's true.
So. That's true. We have to have different standards for different people.
Yeah. It's all about the importance of, you know, what's going on.
Like someone's gaming. That could be impacted.
That's a life. Think about it. That's a life.
Think about it. Imagine that life went on without ray tracing.
Dang it. You got there first. I'm too slow today.
I felt like you were cooking for it too.
It's like, I will win this. You got me so good.
I wanted to get there first, but my brain is so bad.
Anyways, uh, how about a flow plane announcement?
Did we do two merches? No, we didn't. We did only one.
I think I'm pretty sure we did one merge message. If you want to read the, uh, the title of Floatplane announcements after first merge
message. Okay. Oh, sure.
Um, next week, we will have a stream with Sarah.
Let's watch the announcement with audio. Please. Is this another Floatplane tonight?
Cause if it is, I need to buy this one. Yes.
Okay. Cool. Cause I didn't plan complaining about that.
Okay. I already liked the vibe.
See if the audio is going to work. Sure. Go for it.
All right. They can hear it. Now you want to hear it.
Well, it's Derpy dinos. Welcome to streams with Sarah. What am I?
I'm on Floatplane live next Thursday, where I will be drawing Derpy dinos with your contribution.
See you there. Is it going to be a product? I mean, yeah, she's just drawing Jurassic Park is that's a pretty timely cultural reference.
Right. Did you hear them playing it on the recorder?
Yeah. No, I, I thought that was great.
I'm wondering if that's going to be a product because I don't think they said like, like
her previous ones, they made shirts out of it. That's the head.
That's the head. That's the head. That's the head.
Yeah. It took me way too long to get that cause I'm really stupid right now, but that's crazy.
That's awesome. Sorry, I didn't even realize it took you that long to get that.
I wasn't. I got there at the very end.
Okay. Yeah, buddy. Um, cool.
Yeah, great. Great job. From the head turn.
No. And the dinosaur. Yeah, I was literally at Universal Studios, riding around on like Jurassic Park.
I was literally at Universal Studios riding around on like Jurassic Park rides two and a half days ago
And I still it still took me that long. Wow That's awesome
But yeah, I don't I don't know because I know with a lot of these previous streams
They've turned them into shirts or or one time even it was like a poster. I think
Man, I'm not sure it's some kind of design stream. Oh, here we go
As promised, we'll be selling the content cosmos design as a poster during the stream
Exclusively for Floatplane subscribers or as I like to call them floaters
If you don't know what the content cosmos looks like
Here it is and I don't have access to neither do I so I can't
Nice give me a second Dan's working on it. He's working on he's cooking. Let him cook
Go subscribe at LMG.gg Slash Floatplane not on youtube because we don't stream there
Well, we don't stream this there. We're streaming something there right now. It's bad
Oh, that's sick. Oh, that was it. You were only going to show it for that long. We're not going to get to appreciate it
It's pretty cool It's pretty cool. Sammy had that shirt when we were down at the place. That's amazing and friend
Okay, next merge message. Yeah, we're getting there. Um with a recent flurry of 30 day challenges is graphene os something you would do and explore
Um custom phone os I guess so
It's such a hassle Yeah, it really is awful doing phone stuff is really annoying
And like it's it's it's like getting into Linux stuff where no matter how right you do it
Everyone will just kind of hate you for it. Anyway, and it's like why do I even bother talking to you people?
Um, wow the uh, wow
Oh, I thought you were wowing at me being spicy. No, no, no, no I I went to their website and was looking at stuff and I was like, oh, they have a features tab
I wonder what features they have and then I was like, wow, this is really dense
Okay, I started scrolling and I was like, whoa, and then I kept scrolling and was like, oh
But features do you have yes, yes
Wow Wow, wow. Wow graphene os. Wow. Wow. Um, yeah, I would consider it
It's just yeah, it's such a it's such a hassle and the things that differentiate phones for me these days are just totally
Not really the os that much like you guys probably noticed that I'm long past my 30 days that I committed to do on the iPhone
Yeah, I Super duper don't love it. I still have some weird buggy behavior that I
Have not invested the time into fixing and therefore haven't fixed like I've got this
This is a really weird one. Check this out. If I when I open
Oh, this one worked. This is so bizarre. So sometimes when I click a link to a google doc
it No, no, no, that was user error. I clicked the wrong spot
It like totally opens a google doc and then I saw I had it today with uh, chewy's community report
Here it is. So sometimes when I open a google doc
It's like, yo, do you want to open with chrome or
Google app or safaris And it doesn't prompt me for anything other than a browser
So I I don't recall setting it to open with a browser
Like a google doc link in my email, but I like can't accept calendar invitation sometimes
And I can't open google docs I just have to go close the app and then just like open the docs app and then go to shared with me
Um Someone says click safari. It'll open in docs. I promise you it won't watch this
safari And it opens in
safari
Or it prompts me to sign in rather I am 100 signed in. Oh wait, hold on a second. Is that docs?
Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No. No. Hold on. Hold on. Wait. What is this?
Oh, no. Okay. No, that's just my password manager So I'm 100 signed in because I can open that doc here
This is this is the doc that was shared with me, but for whatever reason
I click done. I try to open it here I am literally in the email inbox of the one that I just showed you people like that's a google thing
Well, that's nice, but it's a crappy experience. I use google for my organization. So
It's bad. Um, I don't recall. I don't recall ever setting it to do that. I'm not saying I didn't look
Calm the f*** down. So you need to be signed in in safari and then it opens it in docs. That's so wack
What why would I have joshua carroll in full plane chat is saying you need to be signed in safari and then it will work
Why did it work the other time You just saw me open a different google doc and it did work. Yeah
I have no idea Is it is it specific types of docs like do docs open in one?
But they were sheets open in another they were both docs. They were both docs here. Hold on
Which one was the one I tried to show? Yeah, the one I tried to show you was the logistics weekly update
Which is a doc. Yeah, and that one opened in drive and then docs
And 100 opened. I don't know
Yeah You were already in that doc in the google docs. No, that's not the issue. Um, yeah, it is bizarre
How Defensive people will get about this. I'm not attacking iOS right now
Right from the very start. I said I do not recall
Configuring it to do this I left an opening for it being very possible that I configured something incorrectly
And before that I said that I haven't investigated
But the behavior is certainly very weird
My point let's not lose the point. My point was that even with that inconvenience
The operating system of my phone just doesn't matter that much to me these days
I'm clearly still using this because in spite of the fact that I have some inconveniences
There are inconveniences in pretty much everything whether it's Android macOS Windows mimics iOS
They all have inconveniences
And it just doesn't matter that much I had thio t3 thio watch your iphone video
um, oh, yeah he's a apple device enjoyer
like fairly intensely and
Yeah, he had some minor inconveniences, but for the most part he was like, yeah
Agreed I really do think that apple needs to bring some non apple users into their product development process
because the kind of just acceptance of
Stuff that is just obviously wrong Um, and when I say wrong, you know from like a product design standpoint, what I mean is inconsistent
When when there's a when when the same action can do two different things or two different actions
Actually, no two different actions to do the same thing is fine because then as long as the documentation is clear
And as long as they each have you know a distinct purpose then that can be down to user preference
But when the same action gets you two different results, that's not
great Um, he had he had some interesting comments on stuff like that as well like
and I don't This wasn't him like refuting your comment, but it was just like a discussion piece
That Android's the only operating system that has a universal back
Yeah, of any kind. Yeah, I can't think of another one that does even chromo s doesn't yeah
Which is an interesting observation interesting comment. He wasn't saying like therefore it should be fine that apple
He wasn't saying that but he's just pointing out. I think the closest that we've had
Like on the Windows side was back when escape pretty consistently closed what you were doing
Or like it still does pretty good with that or went out. Well, yes and no because like
Programs now they'll want alt f4 or they'll want f10 and then navigating a menu tree and
Or whatever like there's I would I would say actually from like a from a back navigation standpoint
We've regressed on Windows. Yeah
I'm just saying it's not like gone, but we've definitely regressed a lot. Okay short side rant
Both microsoft and apple Fix your
When it comes to force close
Both of you I freaking I ran into an issue on on the mac recently where like
I couldn't close something and I have to go up in the menu and go force close
That it makes me so mad why do I have to do that the red button is literally there. I'm telling you close
I mean close You could prompt me. Do you want to force close? You know, this is not responding. Do you want to force close?
But just bring it to me. Why do I have to go looking for it? And I want to make this very clear
I'm not singling out apple here Microsoft for years and years and years and I'd love, you know what?
Invitation time I'd love to have a microsoft developer
Come on the show and explain this one to me Because I will run into situations where an app is so hung
That not only does not click that's clicking x not do anything
But going into the task manager And it's like not responding or whatever and like trying to end the task the Windows equivalent of fourth close doesn't do anything
But the system's not locked up and you can make it go away by logging out
I would love to have it explained to me And and you will see you'll see the app when you log out your apps all gracefully close
So I would love to have it explained to me Why force close or end task or whatever doesn't just use whatever mechanism they use when I log out
Just do that Please
Tell me You are invited to come on the wancho because maybe there is a super
Sensible explanation for it Like maybe some you know critical
process or whatever can be Has to be closed first in order to to do that or something
But I kind of doubt it because explorer seems to be the last thing to go
Yeah, like you can see the explorer interface as all the stuff that you've been trying to get rid of goes away
And then it is done and then it's like explorers gone and then boom it kicks you out to the login screen. It's like
I Also some people seem to
Be misinterpreting my universal back and Windows thing because they're like oh it it works it works
It works in a lot of Windows stuff. It works in Windows explorer. What does back like a back button on your mouse
Alt on your on your mouse. Oh sure. Um, but it doesn't actually work literally everywhere. Holy crap
I thought I would never get used to alt left
Um, like alt left key. Um, yeah
I don't remember what the old hotkey was
Was it alt escape? I don't know. What was the old hotkey?
For what going back. Yeah going back like going back in your browser back in Windows explorer
Backspace that's what it was. Okay. Um, is that it? It was all backspace. I think
It wasn't just backspace. No, I think it was all backspace. Okay. Yeah, uh, okay. Yeah, well anyway
Yeah, the the Android one you can swipe to go back In anything at any time. Yeah, it's amazing. I love the the Windows one
It works in a lot of Windows things, but it doesn't work. Oh, it was just back everywhere literally all the time
It was just backspace. That's kind of I totally forgot that. I don't remember that wasn't that long ago
It was like two years ago or something. Yeah three maybe I didn't use it wait. When did they change that to chl
Yeah, I forget why they changed it, but they they did it for a reason
Uh, but yeah in your browser backspace used to go back and now that doesn't do anything. Uh, maybe it just
Resulted in a lot of accidental going back. Yeah, that's 10 years ago shut up
No, no shut up. Don't even that was 10 years ago
Shut up Oh, okay. No, what when was it when was it?
The bad search query 2016
It's nine years ago
That's rough man They disabled it they blocked it in july 2016 google chrome blocked the use of the backspace key to now
Navigate to a previous page in their chrome 52 release
This was because of reports that it brings about loss of data inputted into a form on a page by
Switching to the previous page and probably had a lot of miss inputs when people thought they were in a textbox field
And they weren't yeah, that's likely why I never wanted to use it
Whoa, yeah, I used it all the time
Okay, cool, uh I'm a most enjoyer
Yeah, well just when I'm I don't know I
I have those keyboards right there. I don't know. I just kind of I'm I'm a sporadic hot key user. Oh for sure. Yeah, yeah
Um, okay, what I have used alt left often on uh laptops, okay
But have you tried the alt right? Here you just got to press that key next to the z in the c
Oh Okay, so what are we talking about now?
Who knows Speaking of which mark rober is under fire
For his latest video about lidar that had a focus on comparing
Camera only assisted driving systems as found on tesla's vehicles to lidar assisted systems
The big headline grabbing test was of course the wily coyote style
Fake highway wall that they erected to try to fool the cameras
And the video was celebrated for demonstrating why tesla's camera only systems are inferior to more expensive lidar solutions
Across six tests involving a variety of driving conditions fog heavy rain sunset sunrise
The tesla failed to safely stop before hitting a child mannequin and or a looney tunes wall in three out of six tests
lidar was successful in all tests however
This video drew the ire of many folks
um why Well for the one thing the title can you fool a self-driving car?
No self-driving cars appear in the video Both cars are using driving assists rather than being self-driving
However, as I have talked about for the last 10 plus years
um, maybe not quite that long, but certainly more than five
Tesla's being self-driving is a pretty common misunderstanding and I can see how much like
um I made that video saying that I stole a tampon from a store when it was clearly a pad
That was the beginning of evil Linus. I think I think so. Yeah. Um, I can see how he might have used the term
self-driving because it was easily understood across many languages
um And has a strong association with the tesla car that he was using in the test
Even if no technically that car is not self-driving and a big part of the reason that people associate teslas with
self-driving is that a They call their control
Slash lane keep assist their their auto cruise control slash lane keep assist autopilot
Which is pretty misleading and they also call their advanced driver assistance full self-driving
And have been promising Next year complete autonomy for like
Six years something like that. Don't quote me on it, but quite a few years
um So was that title the best choice? No, probably not. It probably wasn't the most factually correct choice
But I can also completely understand why you must first publicly announce that all teslas
Would have the hardware necessary for full self-driving in 2016. Oh, wow. So nine years again. Nice, but I think he made that promise
In 2016. Oh, he said it would be in two to three years. Got it. Okay. All right. Um, so anyway
Yeah, the the the title probably could have been more accurate
The other main criticism is that he was using autopilot, which is outdated
Tesla's full self-driving system that again does not allow the car to drive itself unattended
It requires constant human supervision is far more advanced than the autopilot system and
um has received more updates However, that doesn't really change the point of his video, which is that um, both autopilot and full self-driving rely entirely on cameras
cameras which Have fundamental limitations
Um, rober has not disclosed which version of tesla autopilot he tested
Uh, and tesla plan to roll out the ability to use full self-driving without a driver in june
Uh, yeah, I'm not I'm not even gonna say that a tesla
Why is it this is this is this is the MSI, uh, the MSI
power thing again So I should just not say anything that a manufacturer says at this point then. Yeah
Tesla says that they're gonna do that. But hey, they first said
Uh, that it was coming later this year like many many years ago. Yeah, specifically in 2019. Um, or wait, where is it?
In 2020 must claimed full self-driving will be featured complete by the end of the year
That was the first time that it was like Within a year that he claimed it would happen as far as my understanding goes
Based on this timeline that I found which might not be right. Someone else said it. I gotta be careful
so in summary, um
I think that we're kind of missing Missing the forest for the trees here a little bit the point of the test and like man people are getting so
hung up on them. I think it's the timing right this road
Robert was talking about how I I think they were like planning this video from from last year
um, he's not Uh, apparently an investor in any company involved
Um, and didn't get paid by that company with the lidar cars
They just provided one of the cars and he's openly planning on like buying a new tesla soon
Because he wants to like upgrade the one that he has. He's like, I'm not a tesla hater. I'm not against them
I'm going to buy another one. You're like targeting the wrong person, which
I think is hilarious personally. I don't I don't know about anybody else
But I think it's funny But I think it's the the timing with the stock going down and the tesla protests all happening right now
And a lot of people just not understanding even sort of at all
That video production has like timelines and this was definitely started a long time ago and was not planned to drop during like
Uh, a tesla stock on fire everyone lighting cars on fire
anti nazi protests arc
You just you just never know what's going to happen The world's crazy. Casper Explorer asks what happened to using both in conjunction
Good question tesla not only stopped shipping cars with lidar in them. They actually deactivated the lidar that is in
Any of their existing fleet of cars that do have lidar installed in them
And that was in the interest of building their full self-driving capabilities
Using only cameras the really baffling to me the really baffling thing to me is that uh
And I actually didn't even realize this until I was reading up on this
Is that tesla not only realized just on cameras, but they don't even have stereoscopic vision
With their cameras. Oh I did not know that and you guys correct me in the chat if i'm wrong, but that was something
That'd be too many cameras. Sorry. It wasn't a lidar. It was radar. Wasn't it? We're gluing panels on around here. We can't we can't double up the cameras. Hold on. They never had lidar. Hold on. Hold on
Hold on. What did they have in radar?
What did they disable
Ultrasonic sensors I
Tesla removed the ultrasonic sensors Oh, sorry guys transition to camera only driver assist ultrasonic. That's right
They didn't use lidar because lidar was really expensive back then lidar costs have come down though and that's why
um And that's why other cars are coming equipped. Well, my thank you. Thank you for that just detected Linus who just lied
They do have a one-dimensional
Distance sensor. So there you go. I would I would have thought that they would want like stereo vision with the cameras though
Too many cameras. Yeah, maybe yeah, maybe too many. I like I said earlier. We're gluing on panels over here. We're not buying extra cameras
Look, it's not happening
Look we can't afford fasteners. I am not claiming that I know how to build a self-driving car
But maybe you'd use a fastener, but that's the difference
That's the difference
I'm not claiming to build a self-driving car And the point of marx test the point of marx test was simply to show that there are limitations
in a camera only system that are going to be
Not just difficult but impossible to overcome
By not having anything else
Backing it up. And I think we've really We've really seen that especially under, you know, real-world challenging conditions different from what he tested like up here in canada
Snow is a major factor in the functionality of any kind of camera system
I mean on my on my car regularly
I will turn on my car and I'll get like a notification that some of my
driving assist features don't work because the cameras are like caked in snow and
Like yeah, sure. Theoretically Um, you should go out and do like a pre-flight check before you ever operate a vehicle
Like that's that is literally it's part of the rules on your exam. Yeah when you get your driver's license
If you don't do it, they fail at you You are actually supposed to do a walk around the vehicle and I have never once seen someone do it outside of the exam
Not even once Nerdles like what yeah, it's it's literally it is it is a very serious part of our exam up here
If you don't do it, you definitely will fail and I genuinely has never seen that happen
Jake does I watched Jake leave the building literally yesterday and he did not no, I don't believe you. There's no way
Um So so
Yeah So the point is theoretically I should go around my vehicle and I should have a little I should have a little brush
And I should sweep off all my little cameras and everything But there are also
Situations where there's a bunch of slush on the road or a bunch of salt or there's a bunch of snow coming down
Recover while you're driving where it can get covered while you're driving and it's just very obvious that
A camera pointed in a particular direction can be covered
Oh well, good luck everybody
Linus admitting on camera that he doesn't do the legally required pre-drive check that everyone else definitely does
I don't come get me
Let's go On your drive over don't forget to walk around your car. You definitely won't do
Uh max o drive says kyle paul did a video that shows that hardware hardware three on older software on full self driving fails
But hardware four on current software. It does see the wall and stops
Uh, what was the can you remind me? What was the generation of hardware that uh,
Mr. Musk said would be capable of full self driving again. What was it?
Can you can you let me uh, I gotta find that again. What was the one?
Trying to remember trying to remember what it was. What was it? Was it four?
I think it was four. It was four, right? I think it was like two. No, it was three. It was three. Yeah, it was three. Um
Uh
Again, I'm reading this off something else. So I don't know but elin muskin. This is a quote. This is a quote
I didn't say this is quote Okay
Elin muskin initially stated that tesla's hardware 2.0
Or hw2 also known as ap2 was capable of level five autonomy paving the way for full self driving capabilities
That's an ai overview though I didn't say it you should ask rock. You should ask. I didn't quote it. You should ask the uh
The uncensored ai sure That's actually pretty funny. You should ask rock. I'm I'm I don't know how to do that, but I'm going right now
Oh You'll have to sign into twitter
Yikes, uh, what are we supposed to be doing right now Dan? Oh, I'll do sponsors
Why don't you figure that out when people ask rock who spreads the most misinformation on twitter and it says elon?
Have you seen that? No, it consistently says elon. That's actually hilarious. Um, I mean you can't say it censored then
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All right, luke. What did grok have to say? All right. Well first off
Hardway two okay grok agrees. Yeah
This was announced in october of 2016 when tesla stated that all cars produced from that point forward
Would be equipped with the necessary hardware for full autonomy including eight cameras radar and ultrasonic sensors
Paired with an NVIDIA computer Okay, so this is pre the jim keller version of hard of the hardware because which one did jim keller work on?
Uh
Did he do hardware three
We're going we're going we're cooking Over three. Yeah, okay
And that's the one that um, wait for it. No for real this time definitely would definitely be
Definitely capable of self-driving with full redundancy, but now it turns out
They're actually using all the redundancy just to like run it at the level that it's running at now in its defense
It's coming to this conclusion by Looking at it seems. Yeah, I didn't actually know that part
So it's coming to that conclusion by like looking up Websites, which I mean, I'm sure people say that a lot
I think it would be very hard to define who actually spreads the most information on a particular website
But if it's just like effectively Googling it then people are going to say elon all the time. So it makes sense that it comes up with it
I just thought it was funny, but I didn't realize it was just search engine stuff speaking of being potentially
Minus american cheese is cheese. Well, then it should taste like cheese
Boom roasted absolutely destroyed
um So this is interesting. I we don't have this topic prepped. I don't think do we have anything on section 230?
As far as I know, it's a it's a mixture of cheeses
Section 230 what yeah So that's the whole thing where you're like not liable for the content on your site
um, which is a huge part of
You know why? user provided or generated content at all like exists. Yeah
So it's an amendment of the communications act of 1934. I'm just looking at apple insider's article about it
Crucially says that no provider or user of an interactive computer service shall be treated as the publisher
Or speaker of any of the information provided by another information content provider
Which basically means that user generated content. Um, can't open you up to legal liability
Um
Lawmakers are sort of seeking to kill off section 230 which is kind of
Uh, kind of scary There's support from both sides apparently from both democrats and republicans
um Maybe they just want to force the tech industry into negotiations either way
I just thought that was kind of interesting because we were talking about the spread of misinformation on a site
Can you imagine? If x ink or whatever the company is called was liable
For the information that people post on the site. You would just you would completely gc sites would be gone
Like we would shut down the forum immediately That's the reason that I brought it up because that was the first comment on reddit under this was like anything with a comment section
would either remove itself from the internet or
Remove their comment sections Yeah, the op asked what would happen to the Linus tech tips forum if section 230 went away
We would immediately delete it. Yeah, or or not allow it to be opened in america
Oh, yeah, that's an option too. I guess we could just close it to americans
And they could have the vpn experience that the rest of the world gets to enjoy. Yeah
That Was it that was all I wanted I just wanted to answer
I just wanted to answer the op's uh the op's question here about what would happen to the forum it would be gone
for you Yeah, and comments on youtube would absolutely disappear which well youtube would disappear
Oh, yeah man
Unless they had like an approval team at youtube and like a very small pool of creators that were allowed to upload content at all
And all the content on the entire channel had to be vetted
Sorry entire platform had to be vetted and manually. I doubt they would
Allow an automated system to to do it. No, there's no way especially when liability comes into it
um, yeah Yeah, effectively like the vast majority of the modern web that is known and used today would would die
So, you know, maybe they should get rid of it. Shraff2k says no youtube comments. Can we do this today?
Um, okay people really want us to talk about the plex thing
All right. I mean we have the notes plex is under fire. I'm I'm
Here's the question though Luke you were too early when we dropped plex as a sponsor
Why didn't we warn anybody? That's true. That's true. That's true. You could have
We could have you could have could have warned them your jerk. Um, yeah, I know just be a big mean guy
So we did drop plex as a sponsor
A year ago two years ago something like that. I still use the product. I think your timeline dilated again
You think so? I think it's a lot longer than that. Oh, I can be wrong, but I think it's a lot longer than that
When's the last time plexi sponsored something? I don't think it was 10 years ago. No, no, I don't think it was that long ago
No, someone just one shot said 10 years ago. I don't think it was that hold on uh
I don't know just do my usual thing Linus plex
Three ways to start your own plex server. Yeah, I think they sponsored this
Yeah, plex are sponsoring this week learn more at plex pro week. No, I'm good. Well, okay, september 2022
I'd say that's two and a half years ago. That's two and a half years ago. That's two
I thought we dropped him along before then no, so we only ever worked with him a couple times
But basically what I told them was I'm still going to use the product
I'll still talk about the product But I I won't take a sponsorship
This is because this is one of the ways that we can exert pressure on a brand is we'll basically go look
We're not going to enter into any kind of partnership with you guys until xyz conditions have been met
And I basically laid out like a a wish list of features
That was basically their list of features that were supposed to work and I said look when these work
Um, then we'll talk then we we'd love to work with you because I I do genuinely enjoy using the product
Um, however, it looks like I dodged a bullet here because they have
Since we worked with them and since we dropped them gone from
um, tolerated to
Not tolerated, uh as of april 29th 2025 plex pass subscriptions are going up in cost
This is the first time in over 10 years that pricing has increased So they at least do get some credit for that the current cost is 4.99 a month
$40 a year and 120 dollars lifetime the new costs are
6.99 a month 70 dollars a year and 250 lifetime
I mean Okay, I thought the most insane jump considering they've never done it. They're giving us warning
You've got a month to buy a lifetime license for 120 before
Um, before it goes up to 250. Okay, so far. I'm not mad yet
Wait The price increase applies to new and current subscriptions
This is pretty normal I know but I hate that committing to not or whatever, but it's pretty normal. I hate that. I just I don't
I understand you've said that we will raise the price on full plan at some point. Yeah
Yeah, would that not apply to new and current subscribers? No, it would apply only to new subscribers
So we have to do another grandfather thing. Okay, right. I remember. All right
Yeah, because that wasn't the deal and I understand that from a contract law standpoint
Every new month every billing cycle is a is a new contract or whatever
but For me, it's not really a question of whether it is legally
Allowed, it's a question of whether it is right and no, I don't think that's right
If you sign up for a service for $5 a month and the service doesn't materially change
At least not for the better Then you don't get to just unilaterally decide that now it's $10 a month. I don't think it infinitely makes sense
Personally
If you look at what $5 was worth 20 years ago
I don't know if it's fair to say like for
Until the heat death of the universe. You cannot change the price
Well, no, but what you can do. I mean, you're gonna have natural user attrition. Anyway, like we have been
Unrealistically generous with the og's for instance where we allow them to
Where we allow them to unsubscribe and then come back and then re-subscribe at their original price
That's actually unhinged and that's not something that I think we could sustain forever
But you're going to have user attrition. You're going to be constantly adding new users
and so if you don't like the old rates then
You just make new rates and over time you will transition everyone there. Yeah, so nerdle saying like unhinged but based
um, yeah, and I mean I I think
Your policy on that is kind of nuts. I also respect it and I'm totally down
Just to be clear but I also think like Not every service can just literally never change the prices for a very significant portion of their user base
Um, so that's that's just not going to work for everyone all the time in summary for plex. Honestly, what do they actually even do?
It's all hosted and streamed by you, isn't it? Uh
Well, there is the lower quality version where it has the um, like if you don't have your firewall configured properly or whatever
I think they do relay some data in those cases. All right
Um, I forget what else they actually do that touches their servers. I don't think it's much though
Unless you are streaming their their freemium stuff
Glimmer D said I actually tried to change from the og $3 to the $5 tier on purpose and it wouldn't let me
Get owned
I will not fix that
You have to pay three dollars Okay, you're not allowed
But this is a long paragraph or this is a long uh, this is a long topic
So I'm sure we're gonna get to some stuff that we're mad about overall. I'm not that mad about this
It's no different from any of the rest of the industry and the fact that they're only finally increasing their pricing now
Honestly, pretty pretty cool All right
The exception is lifetime plex pass holders
If you have a lifetime plex pass then your prices don't go up and you can still obtain that until april 29th
However, there are a few other changes coming with the price hikes
Remote playback for personal media for free is going away
No way Are they hold on a second. Are they talking like with their relay or are they talking at all?
Because if it's my bandwidth, how could you possibly tell me that you need to charge me for it?
Well, okay, but what is this saying like if the server slash library you have access to
Does not have a plex pass subscription
You can pay For remote playback. Sorry. What doesn't that make sense though?
Does not have a plex pass subscription
Hold on a second What I don't know how the monetization for plex works. So I don't really know there's oh, there's free plex
I didn't even know that that's what I meant. I thought there was only free plex if it was ad supported
Okay, I don't know how it works. I'm on free plex
Okay, you can't like chromecast from your phone, but you can also like chromecast from your phone
There's a few features that are locked behind it. But you know, I have remote playback
Um, I set up my ip configuration incorrectly. So when I want to watch it in the living room
I have to technically do remote playback um
I don't know so what I would have to do is I have to get a plex pack subscription for my plex server
And then I could you know Let my parents watch it or watch it from the living room that sort of thing, right?
Of course, you would never let your parents watch media that uh
They didn't physically know. I mean like in my living room pulled
Yeah, they would come there. Although it's technically that a rebroadcasting license. I have done none of these things
Yeah, I don't know what you're talking about. Just theoretical. Yeah, theoretically. Yeah in minecraft. Yeah, redstone plex server
um Okay, so I can see why people are kind of mad about that
Oh
Uh-oh Am I about to hot take something again? Let's go. We need more than this stream. We only had like five or something
I mean we need more Plex pump it up plex can be a broken
product sometimes Like I recently tried to use the download feature again and like still is broken
um But like if you want a free version of plex then
use jellyfin And if you
don't want The free version like if you don't want to jump through those hoops then
Um, I I don't I don't know that they're actually asking an entirely unreasonable amount of money for what plex does
Especially if you snag a lifetime plex past subscription now
um So jellyfin doesn't have like apps and things plex is nice because it's got apps and stuff then pay for it
Yeah, like it's kind of the like it's not like this isn't food. It's not shelter
Um, it's not clean drinking water. This is this is a luxury product that realistically if let's let's be real talk right now
That realistically for a lifetime pass if you were actually paying for your media
Would be covered in like six which you are
Of course you do pay for you definitely are We all everyone is
um everybody so just like
Okay, uh Okay, maybe there's going to be some more stuff that like gets me but I don't think I don't think this gets me yet
plex thinking you should pay for their software um
Especially because I suspect an enterprising smart individual will find a way to just
Hit a local target and then like vlc into that remotely anyway
Like this just seems like the kind of thing where if you're clever enough you could probably work around it. Absolutely
Um, and like that's the thing is you're effectively in a variety of ways. You're paying yourself
Not paying for plex to do your work around or you could just pay them to not do it like that's that's the whole
Do you do a video on that? No, I don't think so not that interesting. Yeah, I just don't think it's that interesting. I think it's pretty niche. Yeah, um, okay
All right, let's let's see if the next thing's gonna get me
remote playback With a okay, hold on a remote plug for free is going away
Uh, if you so if you have a plex pass for your server you and anyone with access to that server can stream remotely, okay?
or Remote playback with a remote watch pass subscription
Whatever it is if the server slash library that you have access to does not have a plex pass subscription
You can pay for remote playback for yourself
It is a dollar ninety nine a month or twenty dollars annual. This seems this seems kind of
Terrifying from a like a legal liability standpoint
Why would plex want? Anyone paying them money for access to pirate media servers?
Uh, totally paid for content storage devices. Yeah, but no, but actually real real talk for a second. Yeah, I know. I hear you. Um,
that seems completely
crazy And I don't use that word lately can they still play ignorance
Like they don't know what's going through it, right? I mean you're just unlocking a feature
I don't think it's particularly encrypted in any way
The only reason that that was is they don't log it. I still think they could feign ignorance
I think yeah plex gets metadata. Yeah, they they do know they 100 know what's being played
So I've been wondering honestly for a very long time how plex hasn't gotten owned
It has made no sense to me for a very very long time the content
Yeah, but again the whole metadata thing you explained the metadata thing to me years ago, but if they're relaying it
Is this actually relay though? I don't think it says relay Well, if the if the person so here's a hypothetical scenario and guys correct me if I'm wrong here
But what it sounds like to me Is if this is my plex server and I do not own a plex pass
Because I just use it at home and I don't care or I have my janky setup, you know to
Remotely access it or whatever right? Okay, I'm using parsec on my phone or who knows honestly a
Wild range of other services any number of different things. Okay, so this is my this is my plex server
I don't pay for plex pass because I don't want to give anybody any money
But I also don't want to set up jellyfin for whatever reason. Okay
You that's your computer. That's luke's computer. Yeah beautiful lovely computer the right color lttstore.com
Um You want to access my server remotely
But I've told you that If you want me to set up, you know my janky solution
Then you're responsible for keeping it working because f*** you i'm not gonna fix it for you every week
Sure, and you say oh, actually that sounds like a lot of work, but I definitely want to access your high quality blu-ray rips
Um, so i'm gonna buy this two dollar a month
Uh What remote watch what's it called remote watch pass?
On what planet? Okay, right, right, right
Let's say that as part of my even though I can set up my janky remote watch system for myself
I for whatever reason can't configure port forwarding or I don't want to
I don't want to open a port and i'm not going to go set up tail scale or whatever
So I effectively have my firewall up
If you access it Wouldn't that go through plexus relay?
Which they know because of the metadata of the file including the file name like that's in plexus store meta
But are they they're storing it though. No, they're not storing it. They're just relaying it. Yeah
So they could they could have a government agency get them to start sniffing it
But if they'd not storing it like this is the whole thing with vpns, right no logs
Sure, if they don't store it if they're not logging it
Risen from whatever says plex does not man in the middle of the content
Um Is that true?
I have no idea. I don't I know very well because if it's not encrypted
And there's there's no way that they would Like encrypted if they didn't have to because it would just add burden on both sides
And the only like my understanding was the only reason that it didn't have to be
Encrypted was because there's no one to kind of send a dmca
To right like if you if you if you download through your
Oh, yeah, no, you're uh, yeah, I would go through your isp or whatever. Yeah, what what does that stream look like?
It is an encrypted tunnel. Okay, so it's an encrypted tunnel. Okay, so then yeah, maybe they can play dumb then
Okay, okay. Okay. All right
However However
I know for a fact that the plex app
Does does is capable of logging?
Like user actions and I know for a fact that the server is capable of logging
Can they really feign ignorance because I know plex can get access to those logs?
Although I'm trying to think because I have gotten support from them in the past
And they did I did have to send them stuff once we got past a certain level
So is it possible that they are simply just simply not logging the metadata? I'm sure
On purpose, but are they going to have the same level of like plausible deniability?
When the user is effectively subscribing
It literally is called remote watch pass
They literally have a subscription to watch the content that is posted on the plexer. No, what if it's home videos?
They don't know plex doesn't know They know
But they don't legally know as far as my understanding goes. I assume it has to be that way else. They would just be deleted
Oh risen from the ashes goes plex absolutely
Has the metadata because they have the community friends feature that's tracking what you and your friends watch and it even sinks between devices
No, they 100% have it They even have a plex movie database that automatically identifies your home movies. Yeah, every once in a while
I have a very they still exist then this has been I haven't understood this for so many years
How is there a Notably like sizable company in this arena that has been able to survive
plex is also known for shutting down the yarmady plex library subscription services that people kind of homebrew
So this just seems like them like taking out the middleman
And creating an environment where people can subscribe to
Dude, how is the how is this a thing? I don't know
But I don't understand how it's been a thing forever. So I don't know
Uh Okay, plex has no way to know if you own it or not. Yeah, but in many regions
Whether you own it or not is irrelevant because you don't have a license to rebroadcast it
So it doesn't matter you own a license to use that disc
In your disc player and watch it for yourself That's all you own a license for
Or if you have one of those ultraviolet or uv or whatever whatever that thing was the digital thing
That like I think got shut down so people just like lost their anyway. Um, that's all you own
Abort abort stop talking about it
It's gonna get nuked This seems this seems completely insane. I I don't I don't
But To me, I mean with the friends thing days talking about stuff like this has seemed insane
For so many years. It's always been insane. I I don't know. I don't understand. I've never understood how they exist
I well, they didn't host anything But they know stuff, but they didn't host it
But it's naps are new stuff And naps are gone obliterating. No, no, hold on. No, no, didn't naps did naps their host
I can't remember the pirate bay used to host and now basically all they do is magnet links
So they don't have anything but links, right? Right
So, okay, so what's the what's what's the plex? Yeah, don't go on the pirate bay. Uh, so what's the plex?
like analog for that they
They're at Man, I'm trying I'm trying to wrap my brain around how they could possibly defend this
Because I know for a fact that part of their metadata includes like like the actual file name
right like it's And it'll have stuff like, uh
I'm trying to think of like a but is that is that is this a service that's running on your end?
that's like looking up imdb and comparing it against your file name and then
Making small changes, but it's not phoning back home to plex because that could absolutely be a thing
This is what I assumed it was I know the ui Shows the original file name
Implex. Yeah, so we offer it could be
Yeah, they offer a service to match the Identified video with a real title happening on your on your side
Oh, they also happen to like some imdb API or something. It also might just download occasionally
And it's just like a reference locally. Yeah, as you say if no, and if you configure it
They absolutely do a video analysis of the video itself because they can that's how they do their intro skip feature
But is that happening locally? Yeah, that would be happening locally. Yeah, so as long as it's not phoning home
They probably don't care. This is this is the point that I'm saying is it on the surface level. It makes no sense about this
What if someone have to not log there? What if someone had on their plex server?
A file that has simply never existed outside of a streaming platform
Then there'd be no there'd be no plausible deniability the fact that it has a metadata match for it at all means
But they're they don't have to log it But they do though. They know that they know that you and your friend accessed it
Because they they know that you access that content that would have no legal way of existing there
So where do they know that again? I don't use this so where how do you so they like every once in a while?
I will fire up something that my now deceased sister watched and it'll be like activity from
emma um And that was synced to me via the cloud
Because her account is friends with my account and we both watch that content on my server
They have some interesting way where they've done this where like your information is stored on on your device
And it gets like shared over but in a way that plex doesn't store it
Like is it super live like is it is it?
That I don't know. Yeah, I mean they used to have watched together. I wonder if that's why watch together is going away
Maybe I I don't know that for sure even watch together
I can think of ways that you could dev it where it doesn't have to share anything other than
Uh raw information about like timecode in the video and stuff like that like it
It wouldn't have to actually share the video
Um because like a lot of watch together services that used to work through youtube and stuff
They're not like they're not man in the middle in youtube
They're just syncing up your your timecode. Yeah stuff like it's um
There are there are other ways to do these things
They just have to really go out of their way to do them
But I I mean I It is still stunning to me that despite all of that plex has been able to get away with these things
Like I'm my opinion on that's never going to change But I I do think there are ways for them to not log any of this information
There's a way around it. It might not be the most efficient might not be the easiest etc
But it's possible for them to do it. People are asking is it p2p. Yes. Yes. Generally it is
other than when Port forwarding isn't configured correctly then it seems like they set up some kind of encrypted tunnel
That would have to go through them in some way
Let's see hold on there was someone else that had a that had a good comment
Steve says how did they send these monthly emails showing what my friends are watching though?
Hold on we're not actually done yet. They are removing the mobile unlock fee. I don't know man
Playing content on a local network on the new mobile app will be free
Okay, so that's cool public release coming early 2025. They're also revising their terms of service and privacy policy
mostly legal boilerplate miscellaneous typogrammer fixes and an explainer for how plex treats universal opt-out mechanisms, but
It seems like they will be selling user data mostly focused around advertising
updated Who does plex share or sell personal data with to include the plex activity that you share based on your account visibility and activity
Settings as well as sharing slash sale of certain personal data to third parties
They claim multiple times that they will not be collecting or selling content data
Yeah, there's a point in their to us here We do not and will not collect information about content or titles in your personal media library of or what you've played
Yeah, they have to not so when those emails go out like are those are those being generated by you
I have no idea it might be coming from the plex server, but it's like I don't have a relay setup for that
The second point after that is personal media users
We do not in all capitals and will not share or sell any information about the content and titles on
Or your use of a personal media server. Oh little jd97 says
All they would need to do is run a stun service to help connect users peer to peer in that case. No content goes through them
It's not a tunnel. Okay
Man, I mean good luck plex Um, honestly other than the selling of user data, you know rug pull
Super not impressed with that. I don't know if any of the other stuff seems that egregious to me in the grand scheme of things
especially now that
Free Um, open source options are so much more mature than they used to be
I could see people being really angry back when the options were like air video
And and this Um, I could see people being really upset about it as it is now at least if you are upset about it
You absolutely have valid options that you can jump to
So I would say that would be the way to show plex your dissatisfaction is to to vote with your wallet
Um, or if you are committed to plex and you don't want to learn to use anything else
I'd say now is a good time to pick up the lifetime plex pass because the new subscription rates are not great
Not gonna lie And I I do think that the value is still there even if their functionality
is Pretty broken
A lot of the time like I think I talked, um
I think I talked last week about how I tried to prep some episodes of a of a show and I tried to download a whole season and
Like one or two of the episodes failed and there was no way to retry just those episodes
I had to delete everything I had already downloaded
And then reattempt it and then that reattempt completely failed. It's like, okay, great
All right
What are we doing? I don't know what topic was this?
Okay, um We can talk about this
Sure The new god of war tv series showrunner says he's not a gamer
Amazon is investing in two seasons of a new god of war show it was greenlit in 2022
And the plot is based on the 2018 game
Original writers brought into kickstart the writing process left in 2024 always a good sign
Ron Moore is the new showrunner and he has a lot of good experience
IMDb Examples include producer on 77 episodes of star trek the next generation from 1991 to 1994
producer showrunner on 74 episodes of battle star galactica from 2004 to 2009
executive producer and producer on 85 episodes of outlander 2014 to 2024
But he has admitted to not playing anything since the arcade days
Fans are upset and worried that he will ruin it by not respecting the source material
He hasn't said anything about how faithful the adaptation will be
A lot of recent adaptations have not respected the source material
A couple of examples we have here are the wheel of time the witcher the rings of power and halo
I didn't even give the rings of power the time of day
The witcher stuff pissed me off the wheel of time stuff
Pissed me off and the halo stuff just straight up enraged me. I knew it. I knew the word. I knew the word that was coming
That was quite the call out actually
I knew it. There was no way he was going to use any word other than that
That was coming that's uh, it's true though. Yeah, anyways
um, now maybe this was maybe this was uh
Misreporting it's not in our notes, but I saw something that said that he was instructed
By the big wigs to to not play the game. Oh
Is that is that true guys?
Please let me know because I saw that he mentioned that he like tried to play it a little bit
But like ran into some quick time events and found it kind of hard
um I also like I think you said this but I I agree with it where it's like
If he's you know, if he's not really a gamer, I don't think that's actually a problem
But watching like a let's play or something like that. I think would be fine. Um
Yeah, uh, no apparently he tried the game and gave up says steve
um Which is fine, I think which is fine
I would say that as long as you still need to absorb the material somehow
Yeah, as long as you go on twitch or youtube and watch a let's play or something like that
I don't care if the director's a gamer, but I do care that the director understands
What it is so that they can represent it properly like it it
Respectfully it enrages me when
The whole reason that you paid for ip
Right is that people love the source material and then you just go like throw it in the garbage
Now that doesn't mean that there's only like one right way to do this. I mean, we've absolutely seen
We have we have absolutely seen fan showrunners, uh, just completely destroy
franchises we've seen oh riley points out that um
non fans can make like top franchise entries like, uh, tony gilroy with andor for star wars
um, I also have a personal favorite example of
A company in this case dreamworks paying to license an ip
Completely changing Functionally everything and it being awesome how to train your dragon has happened
Legitimately if not my favorite movie of all time
One of my favorite movies of all time. It is nothing like the books
And it definitely struggles the film series does struggle as time goes on to continue to develop the story
Whereas the books stay strong throughout the entire thing. Yeah, I one of my examples and I I read this
I don't know a ton about it. I haven't watched the the show, but I read this
Invincible apparently they have the writer working on the show
But the show does not match the comics
and the writer like Seems to be doing this on purpose and the purpose seems to be like I can do this better
Oh, because people are like very happy with the show. Okay
Um, and it seems to be just like I got a second shot at this. I can like fix some things basically
So it's like not respecting the source material
But it's being done by the writer So, uh, and it seems to be better. So do backs
And random Yeah song numbers
New but better, right? Yeah. Did you know that in how to train your dragon books?
Toofless is like pocket sized
No I had no idea. Yeah, that's a pretty dramatic change. Oh dude. No, it's completely different
Um, what what's her name the love interest astrid astrid doesn't exist. Oh
That's weird. Yeah a good part of the show. Yep. Oh, yeah. No like a hundred percent
By the way, apparently he officially said that he's a better writer now So he's making changes to the show dragons. Um, they're not like at war with dragons at the start of the books
Huh, they just like dragons are just like integrated into their life
Like every kid has a dragon like
Wow, they are I don't even know why they bothered to license the ip because they could have changed the names hiccup and toothless
and like a handful of other character names And just like made a show about and it would have been fine
Yeah, and I really don't think they would have been nailed on it. It is like they are nothing alike
Respecting the source material doesn't mean matching it
Yeah, that's fair. I think people interpreted it that way, but I think you're also right. I think that's fair
Yeah, I think that I think that's fair Elindi says they bought a fan base
I don't know. Yeah, I guess I'd never heard of the books. I mean either. I don't think the fan base was enormous
And it's dream works. They're gonna get viewers
Yeah, I interesting
I don't know either way that uh, yeah, it's like my favorite movie
um
Moving on yeah, good luck amazon Microsoft posts then removes an image of the xbox ui with steam games included earlier this year
Microsoft talked about combining the best of xbox and Windows and this week they briefly showed what looked like it might be that
Microsoft posted an image of new xbox ui on multiple devices that included a steam button
But then pulled the image down when the verge asked about it and xbox chief phil spencer has previously hinted that pc stores like epic games and
itch.io could one day appear on xbox consoles
interesting Now you just need to make the xbox store on pc not horrible
That would be pretty cool. I would appreciate that
Okay, I don't know. That's kind of all I have to say about that Neat. Uh, what else we got? Roku confirms experiment showing an ad before the home screen
On sunday march 16th, Roku users noticed ads being played on startup before being taken to the home screen
Complaints started popping up on the forum. It's occurred on both roku tvs and streaming sticks and multiple users reported seeing an ad for
Mona too a roku spokesperson shared a company statement confirming that this is expected behavior
But not a permanent part of the roku s currently
They claimed they were just trying the ad capability out roku did not respond when asked to comment on the community backlash
Whether this would become a permanent feature which devices are affected or why they decided to use auto playing ads
We have an upcoming video on a dumb tv. We found stay tuned
Oh Discussion question. I know Linus hates ads if this happened on your beloved tcl. Would you get rid of it for another brand?
I don't know if I hate ads I um, you don't see them. Yeah, I can't really see them
um Add blindness to be clear. Sometimes I do see them, but I also will just like
Maybe maybe part of it is just the ad Because I don't really have a problem. You'll see an ad be uninterested and then just
Be thinking about something else. Yeah, like I'll I'll just like
Brainwarp to something else for a little bit and then be peripherally aware that something's going on that is not
to my interests and then I'll Be back to it when like it depends how long it is if it was like a low port back
If it was three seconds like if it was as long as the tcl splash screen
Which I no longer have to look at then I don't think it would really bother me
But if if my tv tried to play like a like a 30 second ad every time I turned it on
I think I would Probably put my foot through it for real this time. Yeah
I would just
Sorry everyone
This feels like a direction we have been going with tv's it feels like it's actively getting worse
And like a lot worse sweet and hot sounds good I actually have no idea what the deal is with this other than that they're on set
And I've been told that I'm allowed to eat them. They're on set and you're allowed to eat them. Is that the whole thing?
It seems like they got awfully prominent placement for just they're on set and I'm allowed to eat them
Is it like do we need to do we need to like disclose anything here? I would really
Dramatically prefer we were informed of these things, but anyways
Windows update uninstalled co-pilot and users rejoice mandatory update. I'm gonna say the whole thing
It's in the I'm gonna say it kb 505
3598 released on march 11th has proven to be a major headache for microsoft with Windows users reporting
installation feature failures rdp disconnects and even blue screens on Windows 11 24 h2
But to some users delight it's also removing co-pilot from some machines and even unpinning it from the taskbar
Also impacted are Windows 11 23 h2 22 h2 and even Windows 10 22 h2 and 21 h2
A microsoft support document states that they're aware of the issue and working on a resolution
The Windows 11 subreddit seems to be pretty happy about the bug calling it the best update for microsoft in a long time
And praising microsoft for fixing their own bloat
Windows 10 is coming up on its like ol. Oh, yeah, sure is isn't that crazy?
Yep, and I think we're planning some content. I think I was oh man
I'm gonna forget what it was, but I came across a headline recently that some game or something runs better on Windows 10 than Windows 11
like still after all this time not surprised man, I uh
When we do our when we do our customary, you know, hey, is it
Is it good that this is going away because we've kind of done that for Windows 7 Windows 8 we've kind of looked back on them
Windows 11 is a bit of a rough ship Windows 10 really does seem like it was a high point, hey
Like I I don't personally have day-to-day issues with Windows 11 personally
It it doesn't I get in my way usability wise. I don't mind it. One of my problems is compatibility stuff
um like the deprecation of Windows 10 will
force some people to either have uh unsecured systems or
buy a new computer
And I think this is like The first time in a very long time that that's been true
So that's rough A lot of the world
It's very hard to just buy a new computer um, and Windows 10 computers for the most part
By that time can do the vast majority of things people need to do on computers can even play a lot of modern games
Okay, just fine. Hear me out Does this drive a Linux migration? Maybe genuinely like if steam os
Capitalizes on this. Yeah. Yeah, because they're planning on are they're they're still not out right not out yet
But they're planning on it. I mean it's already I believe the beta version now supports other handhelds
I don't think we're we're fully at you know valve saying yep
Here's steam os install it on your computer and plug your monitor in and just use it as a computer. We're not there yet
But they've they've they've telegraphed that it's coming. It's coming eventually the year of the Linux desktop might be
The death of Windows 10 The year of Windows desktop or sorry Linux desktop might not be brought in by Linux. It might be brought in by
Microsoft shooting themselves Sure, I mean yeah, why not right it seems reasonable to me because like
People are going to start getting crazy warnings on their systems
That they have to upgrade to Windows 11 And then they'll check and their system will say that they are not compatible and they cannot upgrade
And a lot of people aren't going to want to buy a new computer
Because like again, these things are fine if you do like basic photo editing basic video editing
Uh Text stuff web browsing your computer back from Windows 10 era is for sure still okay
Are we gonna end up with another xp situation where Microsoft kicks the can down the road because they realize that the users just aren't
Going to get on board with it and there's going to be a whole bunch of unsecure systems out there
I mean, they're absolutely will be if they if they do this Yeah, they're they're 100% will be because people are not just going to replace working computers until they run into like
They go to install chrome or they go to install steam like steam dropped support for Windows vista not that long ago
So it's going to be a long time before just the applications you absolutely must use every day
Start not working on your Windows 10 system, but that will happen
Didn't we say the same thing for the Windows 7 to Windows 10 deadline? Uh, I don't think so
We certainly didn't say anything about steam os Steam os didn't exist yet at that point
And I mean there are a surprising amount of people still running Windows 7
So if that's what we were saying then yeah, I mean it's still a thing
That's wild dude, um, I'm I'm I mean I'm rooting for them. I'm rooting for I'm rooting for Linux
I'm I'm not ready to daily it as long as just there's anti-sheet issues and compatibility issues and whatever else, but
I'm I'm so rooting for it. I when
When steam os is installable I want to try it. It is installable. You can install it today on your desktop. Oh, I didn't we did a video recently
Oh, yeah, tell me you don't watch LTT without telling me you don't watch LTT. I watch I watch some of it. Okay
I know you do. Uh, yeah, jordan jordan installed it and you know what your system won't work
You have to use a radio and GPU. Oh, yeah, so like no, it's not it's not ready yet limitations
Yep, the installer needs some work. You uh, it does not support
Installing with more than one drive in the system It just automatically wipes and because it's it's like it's like a system restore image
Effectively, it's for the steam deck very designed for the steam deck. Yes, absolutely. That makes sense. So give it time. Give it time
But I think it's gonna happen Uh, we've got some we've got some more stuff. Oh big screen beyond two and two e launch kind of a big deal
I This has been killing me. I've had mine for two weeks
I have not touched it Because I have been traveling
I could have traveled virtually Would you have what do you do that on the plane?
Oh, no, it's pcvr. Oh Tether outside in
Yes, sir. Yes, sir I am very excited adam was telling me about it today. I am I am actually very very stoked
How much are they it brings an overhaul to the optics that increases the field of view from 102 to 116 degrees
Increases brightness increases the sweet spot reduces lens glare adds adjustable
Interpupillary distance using a little tool adds new headgear and a universal face
Gasket has clear and translucent orange colors and the 2e gets eye tracking
It has translucent orange and they somehow made it even lighter
Oh, it does have translucent orange. No way Glad I procrastinated on the first one. It is down to 107 grams down from 127
Dude, they made one for you. So even Nice, look look that really does look like compare that to your jacket
If you get one, uh, it'll match your reversible bomber, which you can get right now on LTT Store
Look at dad. Let's go. Look at him go Even if you add the audio strap, which which that picture I was showing you guys had the whole thing is just 272 grams
That's just over half the weight of a quest three
Adam has some usage impressions. He says I only used it for roughly an hour so far, but the improvements to the optics are
massive Improved fov is awesome reduction in flare and chromatic aberration was notable even without a side-by-side comparison
bummed about the lack of improvement to DisplayPort We're still stuck with 75 or 90 hertz with dsc
But not sure if that's a limitation of the usb standard haven't looked into anything at all yet
So these are very preliminary And it seems that these new features have made many enthusiasts pull out their wallet because big screen says they've sold more of the beyond 2
In the first day than they did in the first six months with the original
Big screen apparently sent us some desk pads that they made using the oh
Yeah What oh lordy using what?
Yeah, yeah, yeah
Oh, I wanted it so bad
This is the scan for the custom fit gasket which does still exist even though they have a universal one now. Oh my goodness
I Kind of want one of these
Incredible I want one too. They should sell that on the store. You should do a collaboration. I'm at the headset
Discussion question here is how stoked are you about this and are we going to do a video?
Very stoked and we're absolutely going to do a video both adam and I will be playing with it and
contributing to our review They sell a they sell a can that you can store it in and it looks like a pop can that's pretty cool
That's hilarious I mean, I don't know why I like that so much
Yeah, I don't know what I would use that for I mean, it's like a tethered setup. So unless it also holds my
Lighthouses Well, no, I'm assuming so it like protects it because it's it's really light and somewhat fragile, isn't it?
I mean anything with sensitive optics is going to be fragile at least to a degree
So yeah, I can I can understand someone wanting to use it as like a way to protect it
All right, what else we got? Uh, you were really excited to talk about gtc. Really? Oh
I didn't go do you know that?
No, I went to g dc
Which happens one hour away at the exact same time
And nothing happened nothing happened at all
Oh bummer Nothing was announced there
Nothing happened there
I thought you went to gtc We went to go to the actual g dc event not just the NVIDIA side thing
We didn't even have the right badges the badges that we had didn't gain us access until after we flew away
So we went to one thing and there was literally nothing there and we went to oh, but there's that side event
We can go to we'll go check that out too and there was literally nothing there either
I was talking to wendell the whole time. I was like, hey, oh, do you want to meet up sometime? He's like, yeah
I'm like going here I was like cool. That's not where I am
And then I was like, oh, we must be here because you know, there's nothing happened on down there and they were like
Oh, yeah, it's just enterprise stuff and then they launched I understand it is an enterprise GPU, but they launched a 96 gig VRAM GPU. That's crazy. I would have covered that
400 to 600 watts TDP I was in the wrong place
There's a slimmer max q variant from why was ian g dc?
All the cool stuff happened at gtc Man, how much does this thing gonna cost? I think like
Rtx pro 6000 why didn't they just keep the quadro 15 grand at least
Because they're just called the quadro rtx and then we would have all known what we're talking about anyway
Anyway, there's a there's a flow plane video going over probably one of the least successful trips
I've ever been on if you want to see it. Cool. It's there speaking of wendell I'm reading a book that he recommended to me it's salt sugar fat sugar salt fat whatever it's called
It's those three ingredients and it's basically about how the food industry throughout the 90s
Oh just like before like one of the biggest scams in the world the basically just like
No, not not the food. Oh, it's way. Oh, dude. It's way more insidious than that. It's like way worse
Um, it's bad though. Yeah. I'm like a quarter of the way through it. I'm like
Oh, so like is this what spurred like your like massive weight loss program and everything because he's looking he's looking pretty fly
These days. I didn't actually ask him if that's what spurred it and that's just speculation, but uh, it was it's very eye-opening. Yeah
Uh, can you explain what gtc and gdc are and their differences? Yeah, sure
They're one hour away from each other. One of them is in san francisco. One of them is in san josÃ© gdc
They have the same first letter same last letter and an extremely similar sounding middle letter gdc is game developers conference
gtc is graphics technology conference
They're completely different things. We were brought to gdc and show nothing
And uh, things happened at gtc and we weren't there
It was It was very cool
Yes, it was great. Also at gtc
The project digits mini pc is now the dgx spark
With a founders edition or oem versions from ASUS dell and hp
Uh compact power efficient form factor gb10 chip with a thousand ai tops blackwell architecture
128 gigabytes of unified memory for up to 200 billion parameters
And a pre-installed ai software stack you can connect two together to work with models up to 405 billion parameters
Very cool. And also five billion parameters. Also, they announced gdgx station
A desktop sized motherboard with a new blackwell ultra gb 300. So it's kind of like a beefed up version of spark
It has a gb 300 grace blackwell ultra desktop super chip up to 784 gigs of coherent memory
So if you can afford it, this will
Be a serious Blow to the mac mini that everyone's just based our mac mini. Excuse me the mac studio that everyone's using for ai right now
Has a connect s li super nick for up to 800 gigabit per second
NV link c2c or I guess that's chip to chip for high band with data transfer between processors and accelerators
And NVIDIA's dgx os and ai software stack
Pretty cool. That's nuts. Also bell trick says coherent memory. Um
Uh, ooh memory coherency. I'm trying to remember exactly what that means
Um, see like I could I could I could talk about this stuff if we were there. That would have been cool. That would have been sweet
Yeah, that would have been super cool
I don't want to explain memory coherency without
Looking at it first because it's been a little while but basically
Basically, I don't want to do this. I'm gonna do it anyways. Yeah
Just don't do it. Sure fine
You're just gonna get quoted basically means better performance
there Good
Yep Vera CPU will be NVIDIA's first with fully custom ARM cores instead of off the shelf core designs
Vera CPU has 88 custom ARM cores 176 threads combines with rubin GPU for
Uh, I thought I said vary at first. I said very rubin
Vera rubin 2026 two gpus 50 pf fp4
288 gigabytes of hbm4
Yikes crazy time. Yeah, so in a nutshell better performance across multiple processors
This stuff is all Very expensive
Do we have pricing? No, but I promise you
Every single thing announced down there is going to be like Very premium. Didn't they say spark was going to be like a few grand or something like that?
I think so if sparks a few grand then dgx station is going to be absurd over 10
So and people are going to buy it for sure 100 percent
100 percent For sure. I mean we picked up one of the new max studios with the the top memory configuration because nick from the lab said that
They would use it. So I was like We need one for a review anyway, so I guess let's we will definitely use it. Let's do it
Yep, I mean that was like nine grand or something like that So there'd be no reason for NVIDIA to price anything below that. That's for sure. No. Yeah
Okay, is that it for topics? Oh, no pebble founders new company releases
Core 2 duo Love the name
Why are people upset about this? Some people are upset about this. Oh, I think it's dumb
His new company name or the products that we were upset about the product. I mean not the name. Oh, really? Yeah
Oh, no, I'm not upset about the the product Anyway, the new company is called core devices and he's opened pre-orders for two new pebble os devices
The core time two with a one and a half inch color e-paper touchscreen
and the paper Core 2 duo a 1.2 inch black and white e-paper screen prices start at 149 us dollars
The core 2 duo name explains the whole idea says founder eric midukovsky
It's like a pebble too, but it's made by core devices and then duo is for do over
Okay, it's expected to start shipping in july of this year with the core time two
slated to follow in december the pebble founder also made a long blog post
Um detailing how apple users will experience less functionality
And laze responsibility solely on apple who restricts third party watches for security reasons
For example third party watches cannot send texts or i-messages
Take actions on notifications Detect if you are using your phone
I'm midukovsky suggests contacting your elected representatives to support relevant legislation
If you want to see proper iphone support in the future
Our discussion question here is are you ready to give up your iphone for a better pebble experience? Yes
I'm gonna i'm gonna daily it a hundred percent. I'm so ready. I'm not surprised
I'm super ready. Yeah, I want the color one though
Like I had a pebble time like a thousand years ago that I color display
I'm not going to go back to a black and white display isn't the black and white one cheaper
Uh, yeah Well, no, no the black and white one came out first like originally. No, I mean out of the new ones. Oh, yeah
Yeah, it's cheaper. Yeah, so that makes sense. But like I doesn't mean you have to get the cheaper one
I'm just saying the color one. I think I don't think it necessarily doesn't have market fit
Just might not be oh, yeah No, no, I yeah if it's super affordable and that's cool if people just want a minimalist thing like that was the whole idea
Like back in the day. Yeah here. Let's go ahead and I want to see it though. Do they look any good?
Yeah, oh, yeah, cool. Okay. Yeah, sure. It's good. Got some buttons chunky buttons
I like my buttons. I can press with gloves. I love to see it
This the these having nice good chunky actual buttons makes me actually want one and I I don't want smart watches
And I mean, I'm not going to get one because I would lose it in two days, but I really like the buttons
Nice happy Okay
Is it after dark time? There is one. I just don't think I care. Cool. Nice. Then yes
neat Let's go
He's doing it. Let's watch him do this or retro features. He's not doing anything
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We got owned we got owned pretty bad there actually
Hey Hey Does nothing
This guy's Hi, WAN.dll
Normally I pre uh pre loaded but you uh skipped the last topic. So I was behind. I'm sorry. Hi WAN.dll
I know luke has been uh has played ftl, but have you played multiverse?
The best thing in pc gaming are those mods that keep adding gameplay
Oh ftl multiverse the mod. Um, yes, I have. Yeah, uh, it seems really cool. I
I Wasn't way too into it
Um, I don't know if it's configurable. Maybe it's configurable. I find sometimes with mods
They kind of do too much Um, and I I felt that way with multiverse personally. I'm not trying to dissuade anyone from trying it. It's very cool
I'm happy that I did try it, but it was just kind of a lot like I I
I installed it and jumped in and was like whoa, where'd my game go? You know like
That wasn't really what I was looking for. Um
But it's uh, it's a pretty wild mod. I'm happy someone made it and I'm happy people didn't enjoy it. It's just I don't know
I liked I liked it. How it was you're getting called out for ending your segments with I don't know by the way
Yeah, I saw that um, and I'm gonna keep doing it because it's my it's my insurance against people that go after you
Really? Yeah. Oh, yeah, I can kind of see that but also I don't know. I don't know
Everyone's way too serious about
Everything in these days That if you say something they they have automatically decided that you will die on the hill for what you just said and it's like
No, this is a four-hour thing Where I like 25 care
About whatever I'm saying at any given time Like this is not he only has one hour of care like the original wandshow was about an hour
Yeah, and we've taken that exact same amount of care and extrapolated over four hours
Yeah, like no leave me alone. So I'll say something and then just be like, I don't know because I'm just like leave me alone
We've got the same amount of margarine, okay? We got four pieces of toast and it's still not butter
He's awake now. He's doing it, but this is just like a man like I don't I I could replace it with but I don't care
But they're not gonna like that as much so it's I don't know look guys. We never cosplayed as journalists, so
No But it's just like seriously it's a it's a like leave me the f alone disclaimer that I put on the end of things
I'm not like actually that uncertain about so many things. I just I don't care
I think you should speak with more conviction. I don't know
But I don't know what you do your own thing. I don't know
And like I don't even disagree with you. I just I don't care
It's wanshow. I don't want to deal with some the thing. I don't know
I maybe I just Maybe I should have added to the placebo conversation. We had a few weeks ago. I don't know
Maybe I didn't and that's why we ended up in crap. Hold on. I'm being called a bastard by one of our regular
plane jet dyslexic stoner 240
Oh Dyslexic stoner 240 says this is f***ing entertainment
You guys don't do anything stupid like call yourselves journalists
And this that uh, but okay, but you know what? I think you actually said it before I said it
So I think you wins. Good work. You got you. You win. But yeah, like that that placebo thing
Maybe I didn't add the I don't know to the end of it. Yeah, you should like why are you listening to some tech podcast and like
Blindly taking medical advice. Here's a question. Is this is this even a tech podcast? Not really
I think the tech is more of the carrier. Yeah
It's the bread for the peanut butter and jam. Yeah, and it's wonder bread
Sometimes sometimes hey, look, it's really sometimes you get an artisanal sourdough
Sometimes we have some meat. Sometimes we have some tech meat. Sure. Okay. Sometimes we have other meat
The point the point is The point of the point is I don't think that's actually why people tune into the WAN Show. No, we've talked about this
I guarantee you it's not because like I we have had off-the-air conversations many times
Where I expressed kind of my disbelief that the WAN Show is our lowest production value property
That we probably didn't have one bread slice worth of cares to spread over it back when it was an hour long
Um, but people tuned into it and it was him that finally kind of convinced me that it had a value and that was just like
Hanging out and like kind of talking about tech. Yeah Sometimes but also not maybe
I don't think I have any friends in my life Or anyone that I have a relationship with that I would want to talk to about the exact same thing every time I talk to them
Yeah, and so it took me a long time to kind of figure out why the WAN Show works
It's because of Dan
I love how he frantically pressed I think backspace at the same time
It's like the loudest key inputs you've had all night. No, that was just me shaking my head violently. Oh, that was just the head
Okay. Yeah, very nice Um, but yeah, that's kind of you guys. Yeah, it's because
off That's why I say I don't know
That's why that is entirely why it's because I'm just tired of it
I've told people before after every WAN Show and I'm gonna keep doing it and I don't care
And if you want to abuse it do it. I don't care. I'm gonna keep doing it I control that for my name and I look for stuff and some people use that
And they'll they'll just say my name like four times and be like, sorry. I just wanted to like get this message. Sure
Say his name say I'm not gonna respond to all of them, but I'll do that because I'm not gonna read every comment
Oh my god But I'll look for some of them because if something's like important I do want to fix it
I feel called out right now, but uh And he didn't even say I don't know he didn't even say I don't know so that was full conviction
Now we're gonna know he's got a tell Now we'll know when he adamantly believes something
I'm writing a rant post right now about the brewing animosity between these two if he's all like people do get a float blanchett
Yeah, so then there was this one time when Linus's narcissistic behavior was on the display
And he just leaves it right there and there's no I don't know. I don't know
Then I would feel something if I wasn't such a sociopath
Dan you want to give us another merch message When I do that and I find stuff that's like a correction on something that just like
Deeply doesn't matter and like actually
This part has shown through sometimes Because someone like I'll I'll say something and then I I correct myself and then Floatplane corrects me and then I'm like
Yeah, I know and I correct it again And then people just keep poking and people will see that I like get really annoyed by it and there will be comments being like
Oh, you shouldn't let that get under your skin so much and I'm like, yeah The problem is because I deal with this constantly and I deal with this probably like two percent as much as he does
So I don't know how he deals. I almost swore again. I don't know how he deals with it
So it's just like watches this show. You got to watch your time. Yeah, I do
But it's like it's ah man And like issuing corrections good when they're matter
Yeah, and I think this this correction mattered Are we talking about the one today? Oh, okay. Oh, no that one mattered. Sure. Yeah. I'm just talking, uh
Um more universally like sure. I don't know sometimes. It's just like guys
Get off the internet for a second. Maybe a maria has a proposal. It's not that deep
You could just do a blanket. I don't know at the end of the show like I don't know. Bye
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Man Someone's gonna do did you see that every word from the WAN Show in alphabetical order video
This one's gonna do that, but with this episode
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Question for Luke. I don't know as a machine learning researcher
I was surprised that you said you'd never used macOS since most people I know in the field to use that or Linux. Why?
Just don't like it it it, um
And I mean the the Mac means and stuff are like amazing and and by never used see this is this is
This person's great, but this is my point by never use. I didn't mean
Literally never use I meant I've never like mainlined it
Like I've you I've used it. I have I have I have used it
I just mean it's not like running on any of the computers that I daily that that's what I meant by that and it never has
I've never dailyed a Apple operating system
And that's that's what I meant by that so yeah, you're not going after this person
But this is this is what I mean by when I had I don't know it's just the like
There's probably 17 different ways to interpret what I just said and most of them are wrong you'd be a terrible witness
Terrible where were you on the night of January 32nd? I was probably at home doing whatever, but I don't know yeah
So you're going to January 32nd you are going to jail because I actually know exactly where I was on January 31st accurately I
Know for sure did I say January 32nd? I think you said 32nd
Am I wrong well? It's January 32nd somewhere. I just crossed time zones
Apparently you did, but I don't know Cool. We'd have to watch the tape back. It's amazing that I was functional
Oh
Maybe I'll just turn these into buttons for you guys
So Luke you got a narcissist button and Linus gets it does not know
Genuinely be so good. Oh my god
What are we even saying? Oh, yeah, so I like I've I've used it
I just I don't know something about I've told this story before too. My mom had an Android phone for a long time
And she struggled with it forever and then she got an iPhone because she needed to because he's working in the film industry
And they use like airdrop and a lot of things like that And within a day she was way better with her iPhone than she ever was with her Android. It just clicked
I'm the opposite of that. I find the iPhone just the clunky
And unintuitive. Yeah, and that is similar to me with macOS. It just doesn't feel right. Something feels wrong
I find Linux easier to use than macOS
I'm not saying that's right. It just feels that weird to me
I think a big part of the issue for me is just the slowness of the animations that feels really weird. I had to use a
I Think you mentioned a review, but I had to backspace on something recently a Mac book. Oh hold it down
It's like takes a thousand speaking of never using macOS
I used a Mac book while I was on my trip because I had to write a script on one
And yeah, I went to a backspace and I was just like what's happening like is the computer lagging out like why is it so slow?
That's just so weird. I don't know I'm sure there's some app that you can download that will sure yeah
I don't know and I'm not dogging on macOS a bunch of people love it and that's great
I genuinely have no issue. I'm not whatever. I'm just I am very used to Windows
When I when I run Linux, I I like running Windows mint because it feels Windows-esque to me. I'm very used to it
It's intuitive to me That's all
iOS does not have a settings button in the quick settings to jump to the full settings
But what they do have is the ability to
Bind any app so what you can do is you can make an app say Windows
Make a settings make a settings app link in your quick settings and then it will go through the breadcrumbs for
No apparent reason because all I want to do is access my settings and I was on my home screen before I started so
whatever but yeah, no that that is a thing that that you can do and
Maybe this is me like being kind of snobby and apply
But it actually bothers me a lot that there it still bothers me that there isn't a settings one by default
Because the settings cog is the only thing I care to have in there and now the style doesn't match because it's in color
Yeah, and all the rest of them are black and white. That's so random. It doesn't it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter
Okay, I don't know. Whatever. I test your button. Oh, oh, yeah, buddy. Oh, let's go
I love it. I
Can't make the narcissist one right now. It's too complicated. Okay
I could I'm sure I
Have to do it manually like a pleb shoot there was a dang it there was a thing and sorry
I kind of I kind of dogged on the person who left that message I it wasn't I was just explaining that that is one of the cases why I don't know and people and person was great
People can't follow every little like aspect of everything and we don't expect that 100%
All I'm ever really asking for in this stuff is to not assume the worst
Yes, and that seems to be too much to ask for a lot of people. Yeah
Oh, our archivic asks any update on the lab's lanyard. I don't but I did send an email on my flight this very early in the morning
Asking for that to be followed up. I will also say with the ask not to assume the worst thing
I kind of get it because there's a lot of bad things right now
But it's just it's it's a very dark life to live when you assume that everything is bad
And I don't understand a lot of things are bad, but like just try to lift above that
Anyways Okay, a few more here Luke. I'm 14 and starting a weight loss and muscle gain journey not a question
I have tried this before but can't stick to it any tips
What I've said in the past is that that's probably because you're leaning on motivation instead of
Commitment or determination or whatever else motivation is very temporary you have to find
You have to find a way to make yourself do it even when you don't want to the only way you're ever gonna be able to keep doing
Anything you want to do is if even when you don't want to do it you do it anyways
Like my only motivation for staying in shape is that I want to be good at badminton. Yeah
That's I want it I want my score to be higher than the person on the other side of the court mine is I just don't want to be broken and
when I'm Say twice as old as I am now
I still want to be able to like move around and do things and I have a decent amount of like
Problems from sports or whatever else So I need to keep on top of it
I need to keep on top of it now and I can never stop I think I had this conversation with you not that long ago where it's like going to the gym is not like a thing
for now going to this He stopped swimming he dies
It's I mean sort of though like
The whole rest of my life there is no I'm just sort of into this interested in this now
I have to go all the time forever, and it's not it's not it's no longer a
Motivation thing it started as a motivation thing. Don't punch him in the nose
I heard him but I had to convert it and you'll have to find some way to convert it
It can't it can't be motivation. It has to be a complete unwillingness to
Not do it Yeah
Dan I'm gonna need a separate on I'm gonna need a separate button does no non-negotiable
Cuz he didn't he said that with conviction
Running out of pre-made ones to overwrite
I believe in discipline is good word for it. Yeah, I don't know if I said that or not Okay, but yeah, you have to and you have to do it yourself. You said you're 14. This is cool that you're
Going after this now, but this is one of the a really good time of your life to learn and to push yourself to do something without your
Your parents pushing you, you know, I think at that point in your life. There's a lot of like
You know you show up to every practice for the sport that you play because your parent gets you there
They get you up from whatever you're doing. They drive you. They do all this kind of stuff do this yourself
Or or find an accountability buddy That is also a very good way to that can also help you get over the hump of the change from from motivation to discipline
Like if I if I ever don't feel like going to badminton
But like it's a group of 12 people or whatever they expect you to be there we booked two courts
So if I don't show up everyone else is gonna pay 8% more for the session and the numbers are gonna be odd
So the rotations are gonna be off. Yeah, so find like a workout buddy or even I had one remote for a while
who was a buddy I knew online and We had a check-in
Well, and I don't need this anymore. I have the discipline now. I go all the time
But we had a check-in where you had to take a picture at the gym
Didn't have to be a nice picture. It could be a picture of the floor mats It didn't even have to be a view but you had to check in I'm here had to be a unique picture every time
You have the metadata it was taken, you know, like, you know, it's real
And they send you them back and you just you check in with each other and make sure that you're actually doing it
There's there's a multiple ways to do that. You might even be able to find one like through the LTT community somehow or something like that
I don't know but there's
They do the same reason the reason why I said, I don't know there. It's like oh, they're 14. Maybe they shouldn't be I don't know
I'm not sure but All I'm saying is just try to you'll you'll gain a ton from this if you
No, so yeah, I know now. I'm being confident now. You'll gain a ton from this if you do it
Under your own volition and not as a drive from your parents. I think that'd be really good. Yeah, super cool
I'm glad you're thinking about it. They gotta do more than think about it. Let's go. Yeah. Hell, yeah
Keep it up
Darn, okay. Well, let's see
Hi Wanda DLL Linus if you had destroyed the 1590 in the power connector video, what would you have done?
Would you have published the video anyway?
No, I don't think there would have been anything to to really say the story arc was
There was no arcing this The story was we've got this thing that has a fundamentally flawed connector on it
What would have prevented them from just Having an xt connector on either end and obviously we didn't put an xt connector on the power supply because we weren't gonna go
Advocating for people opening up power supplies anymore than we already have in the past
So we just you know turned the cable into the into the connector that we needed
With a very secure attachment of the man. I couldn't believe the war that started over soldering versus crimping connectors
Guys, that was just banter on set Like chill. It's all good
Anyway, the point is The whole idea was hate would an alternate connector that doesn't have that isn't so close to the edge
Would an alternate connector that doesn't have these kind of fundamental flaws in the design where everything gets combined into one
Where you just have one big conductor one big connector that that mates really securely
Would that just work fine and could we have just done that in the first place?
That and it was more meant to be kind of amusing slash comical
It was supposed to be kind of like a top gear solution not a real solution
so without It's kind of like asking if they're
You know if they're DIY electric car hadn't run would they have published that episode?
No, I think that you just keep going until the DIY car runs. I think we would have caught up another card
Which I hadn't Cleared with anybody yet, but that would have been what the executive decision would have ultimately been after the team discussed
one person in the Labs that was like
Not excited about all that Nick we have a we have a limited amount of 50 90s
Sorry Nick and we need like a lot more. Sorry Nick by the way. Sorry Nick like so many more my apologies to Nick
We're talking about expanding the benches. So we have more I get it benches look
How do I say this without it?
Reflecting poorly on previous leadership you you say you say I don't know after it's right
Okay here hold on a second. I could just move it. I never once
Denied a request for equipment to any previous management. Oh, he's putting himself over
Yeah, I didn't think it would get denied which is kind of how I
Right now it just sucks because I don't want to pay a bunch of scalpers Yeah
So I want to buy the cards like legitimately and that's just hard to do right now
Like the whole thing my line is as cheap and won't spend money on his business thing or whatever came out of the
The billet Labs thing right which never had anything to do with the dollar value that dollar value was just a number I threw out
Yes, and my whole point wasn't expense. My whole point was that it just wasn't the point
Yeah, it's just worded in a way. I get it. You had to add the you had to add the thing. Yeah, but it's not on my side right now
Yeah, okay move it over here. Yeah, there you go. Okay. There you go So my whole thing there was just that you're you're basically asking me for the fuel economy of
a concept car that You know is upside where the passengers or the driver seat is upside down like who cares
Um, nice it was not going to impact ultimately anyone's decision to buy this product
It was not going to impact its viability in the market
And I ended up being right That product got one limited production run and was never restocked once. It's not a real product. It was never a real product
I don't they didn't seem to know that Um, but they figured it out eventually. It's not a real product. It has no viable market
um and I understand why people were upset at what they felt was a lack of due diligence
But my point always was even if it performs exactly like the manufacturer says it's just not relevant
You worded it. I know. Yeah. No, because the way I worded it was I'm not going to spend some dollar value
I forgot what it was. Yeah on testing this thing when it doesn't matter. Yeah, and people latched on to
That dollar value As though that was the thing that mattered bad wording. I I spend 500 dollars on this business without even
In fact without even approving it like what's your manager approval limit? It's actually like
I think it's low What is it 2000? Yeah, so literally there's a funny loophole though literally
I don't even have this I do know Literally, I do not even have to be involved in a decision to spend 500 dollars
I literally won't even know it is utterly meaningless
The point Taryn doesn't even have to be involved the point of that amount of money
The point of me throwing out that amount was to demonstrate
That I wouldn't spend anything to test it. It wasn't about the value
It wasn't about that at all. It wasn't about the money. You know that I've had to seek approval to save money before
Because we had there was a monthly subscription
And I was like we could move it to the yearly subscription and we'll save like 20 percent or something
But by the yearly subscription it went above your approval limit. Yeah. Yeah. That actually does make sense
because from a cash flow standpoint in a business that was like
Managed on the I hear you. I just think it's funny. We're not we can afford an annual subscription and we
Typically tend to do that. I just think it's funny. Okay
I also think it's funny that I sometimes have to like waste Taryn's time by asking for
approval to like buy power supplies For a channel that has to test power supplies all the time. Oh, yeah
Why do you have to do that because it's sometimes we buy a batch of power supplies? That's more than two grand
Got it. Okay. Yeah, fine. Yeah
It's fine Are there is there anyone other than Taryn that can approve more than two grand?
I don't think so. I mean, I don't know. I'm not not on accounting or whatever, but I don't think so
Did that process this week? I believe it's Linus Avon and Taryn or the above 2000. Oh, yeah, I mean that makes sense
What's my limit? I was gonna say do you have to do you have to ask yourself what happens in that scenario? I don't know
I want to know what my approval limit is
If you tell me I'll put it in our system like right now and then automate that
Yeah, because he the oh man, I'm so excited for that man
I don't want to use a stupid form thing anymore. I was gushing about it to sammy
We did the Dan daly's thing and I ended up talking about it for 20 minutes
He's like, that should be another video. Can you show up? So good? Yeah
Hey boss you're live on the wancho. Hi Oh, hi
Yeah, so I could uh, do you have like 30 seconds?
Of course. Yeah, so yeah, I shouldn't say uh, I don't I don't know
So Yeah, uh trip was good trip was good
So, uh, luke was mentioning that his approval limit for purchases is too grand
And I was wondering what's my approval limit like at what point at what point do I have to like talk to someone when we're buying something
You ignore you ignore, uh, you ignore the the approval makers that we have so I find out about the stuff after the fact
Got it. Okay, but I think based on my question We could probably conclude that that was out of ignorance not malice, right?
I tell the ignorance not malice. Um, basically, you know, the the ongoing team that we have is we just need to communicate better
as a company So ultimately you send the final final checks on the file numbers and everything else
Mm-hmm
Okay, cool. Yeah, thank you very much. Thanks boss
Thank you. Okay. Bye That was a really good answer
So basically you don't have an approval limit just everyone has to work around you
Okay, I mean that's the way it's always been. Yes
You can tell it just like doesn't bother him. He's like, uh, he used to it. Well, he knew what he signed up for. Yeah
I mean, he's known me for It's a very good answer to be honest, dude. I've known taran for almost 20 years. It makes sense. That's crazy
Make sense Um, yeah, so like I mean he that's over half of yours
He was working as a senior in my department where I was a junior
When I would literally like not come into work because it snowed thinking that work had like a snow day
like to give to give you some idea of the level of
Of of greenness that I had when I when I when I joined the industry when I joined the workforce
essentially Taran was there and then he was my boss a couple years later. It's what's that uh
Geico or whatever was that like insurance company So-and-so was there. Oh, yeah, I'm not sure
But like yeah, like he he he saw me at my
Very worst like had to had to give me like dressings down back when I would make like egregious mistakes of errors of judgment or whatever else
Um, so yeah, like I said, he knew he knew what he signed up for I'm still me at just from the company now
And I have a lot more experience. Yeah, but uh, you know
I tend to be kind of a big picture guy. We did this management
Um, we had some consultants come in and do like this kind of management
Course and I found out what I've known my whole life, which is that I am a red personality type
Um, which is that I am not overly concerned with details that I consider to be unimportant
relative to Making progress on the bigger picture objective
Um, I was a I was a rare pokemon I was a I was a red blue. You were red blue. Yeah, okay
Do you guys do you guys know that is this is this personality colors like a standardized thing?
Ah, somewhat it's business Myers-Briggs basically. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Here we go. Hold on
Okay
Yeah, I could have told you that without an expensive consultant If I remember there was different scales to them all and you were like the furthest you could possibly go on red
Me and one other person were there. Jake. Well, I wasn't oh, well
He wouldn't mind. Yeah, Jake wouldn't mind red enough. I know
I mean if anything he he would want me to say that he was red and I believe he was I don't actually 100% remember, but he
He's a red boy. Yeah, which is maybe why I've always had a bit of a soft spot for
I see a lot of myself in him. Yeah
Um By the way, E Gadget guy said make Luke's limit 10k
I don't actually mind the 2k thing because it I I actually don't think taren has ever not approved anything
I've ever asked for and it ends up just being like a way of informing of major things that's the point of it
And that's why I wouldn't have asked for it to change And I've never asked for mine to raise because people should
Should communicate when they are making major purchases. It's a good primer to just have the conversation
I think 2 grand is definitely a decent line over, you know, this is
Just general day-to-day cost of doing business versus this is an expenditure
I don't know what I would change it to if I wanted to change it, which is why I think it's always been fine
It's also been like it. I don't think he's ever denied any request, but he's also like asked very reasonable questions
Um, which is completely fine. He's he's also not blindly approving is what I would say
Gorf in Floatplane chat says about the color personalities. It's all horse
What I will say is part of the problem could be the administration of the evaluation because
Looking around at people that I've known in some cases for five years some in some cases for 10 years
Yeah Seems about right now. There's some confirmation bias there or whatever obviously like
Or whatever a sampling bias or whatever if you feel like you want to be something you could project it through your answers on the quiz
Yep, but given most of us hadn't even like heard of it before we did the evaluation
and like Anyone who was like playing. Hey, what do you think so and so is like nailed it? Yeah, um, yeah
Yeah, it seems there seems to be some I mean at the end of the day
What the real lesson was was not, you know Memorizing the colors and what these things are the whole point of it was that everyone's kind of different
And everyone takes a different approach and everybody needs
Different needs fulfilled in order to move forward together as a team. That was the main point
I thought the goal of what they had in regards to explaining the communication stuff, which I'll do in a second was actually
really Good and I've used it to remind people of how we should do things
Dan's probably even heard me mention this probably recently. I think I did
Um, where it's like what their point was not so much necessarily to self identify what you were
But to make educated guesses about what other people might be and tune your communication style to it
Like they explained like the the people in the blue category Um, give them lots of information and good documentation and like resources
Hand it to them and they'll be happy and don't be super casual about it
Don't yeah because they might treat that as you're not taking it seriously. Yes, but red side
Don't waste my time give them the really important information that need and then and then go away
Yes, and it's like and then go do it. Yeah, right because yeah
Because nothing else really matters like are we getting it done or not?
I don't need a spreadsheet. I need action red and that was our that was my leadership style for a very long time
That doesn't mean that I'm not capable of communicating with people
Across the entire color spectrum or whatever But in terms of where my natural
Residency is it's definitely Definitely red, but we like we had a conversation recently where we were working with another department
Um, and I brought up like hey, this department is x color
Like work with them this way and there's like no way that almost everyone in that department wasn't kind of leaning towards the same
Type of communication. Yeah, they 100% did yeah And I think I probably know what department you're talking about because I think there's only one department
That's like all one color probably. Yeah And did it help? Yeah, so looking back on after
Like going back on conversations that I've had with either like executive teams or other other teams like I think Luke and I are quite aligned
um, I Think extravertedly to use like the Myers-Briggs terms
Um, and when I'm in meetings and I'm like explaining things and I'm like answers
Please why is nobody talking to me all of them have introverted thinking and so all they are just like
Processing in their head and I'm feeling ignored And uh, like an island
And it's kind of scary but thinking back on it. Yeah, no, they're paying attention and they understand but they don't have to talk through
um, like their process or or Brain goop. Mm-hmm. Yeah super useful
Anyways, okay moving on not saying it's the be all and end all
No, you know No, we're just saying it's been useful in some situations. It gets people talking about it, right at the very least
It's like try to analyze the type of person you're dealing with and tune your communication towards them if you need something from it
That's all it really doesn't work. Try something else. Like that was a big part of it, too
It's just you might be wrong like realistically
Communicate your own needs as well. Look, I was chatting with Yvonne about it after and realistically
We could have run the workshop like yeah, we're both experienced managers
And we've gone through a lot of this but for a lot of members of the team where they didn't have this familiarity with
Working with people that have different communication styles in different ways of processing things. I think it was
Incredibly valuable. We often hire
uh I don't know if I want to say inexperienced
We offer hire people that haven't had career level jobs. We're a really young company. Yeah overall
So like there's there's some people in there that like had been met I know of at least one person that had been managing for zero days when they first stepped in
Um, they have recently been our way through the like promoted to it. Exactly. Yeah
But had zero management experience and well like they were promoted as far as I know
It was like they had no direct reports yet and it was the day they were promoted and they just showed up. So like
Love they should get the training, right? Obviously all new stuff
Yeah Anyways
Uh, sorry reading slack messages Uh, first time getting a comment in live. I'm considering getting a steam dick
But I've heard rumors that an updated version is around the corner. Is it worth waiting?
I mean an updated version of Anything is always around the corner depending on your definition of around the corner. Um
Uh I don't think valve has confirmed anything with the current batch of zen 5 APUs
And the scuttle butt is that the zen 6 APUs are not getting rdna 4
If I was going to guess I would say valve would probably strike at zen 7 rdna 4 because what and this is a complete guess on my part
Because what they have said
What valve has said is that they want a clear like like console level generational leap
They don't want to get into the
habit of just like churning out steam deck models and
Having a complicated legacy product stack
That they have to figure out how to support on all these new os updates like they want they want playable on steam deck
Messaging to be very clear that means steam deck and they don't want to be redoing that all the time
Like steam profiles like some games have the steam settings profile built right into them like cyberpunk
They want to make it easier for game developers. I mean they come from game development
Theoretically at some point they did game development, right? So they they want to do this in a way that's really friendly for game developers
So they have very clearly said they're and they're not going to get into the same habits as someone like an ASUS
Even ASUS actually, I mean didn't do an updated like the ally x is just
updated it doesn't use a new processor Um
So if I had to guess I would say zen 7 rdna 4, but I don't know that I have no way of knowing that
Athos lore says I have the OLED edition and it's great and it really is it's a it's a beautiful machine
Sorry, um last one I brought for you tonight
Linus speaking of how to train your dragon. Have you seen the isle of berk section at the new epic universe park at universal orlando?
I have not I've never been to universal studios orlando. Um, it's really far for me
I believe florida Like the the tip of florida is the farthest point in
canada us from here actually
Is newfoundland farther? I don't know. It's very very far away though
Extremely far away like uncomfortably far. I would I would never
I would never just like hop on a plane and and jump down there
um
Yeah Hawaii no, I no, I'm pretty sure that florida is farther from me than hawaii. Hold on now
There we go maps.google.com
What is what are these autocompletes? What is this? Look at this. This is hilarious
Oh, it's because I have an a in there. All right fine
I find this fact to be really fun Okay, no here it is
What are these initial autocompletes what is dot cca
Is dot cca thing is maps dot google.com's like is that a thing? What is this?
Why would it autocomplete that? I mean, this is a this is like a barely used profile for the windshow profiles are only used for wind
That's weird Uh, there are distances within canada
That are further than canada's border is to europe
Canada is really big random fun fact
How do I switch to the globe view? There are there are like logistical decisions that have to be made sometimes where it's actually like cheaper to ship something to europe than it is across canada because canada's so big
This is really far though, especially when you factor in how much how much
Actually big this is and how much this is stretched out because yeah top of map
Do you remember how to uh, do you remember how to change it to globe? I can't remember not sure
Y'all want to remind me how to do that?
Because uh, oh dang that didn't work. Well, whatever you just go to google earth. Oh, okay, sure
I think there's a way to get it in like actual map view as well instead of google earthing it
Yeah, I think so But this get started
What two earths have changed there we go here we go africa be
Actually really big. Yeah, I know right?
It's huge. Yep. You never realize how freaking massive it is until you see it on an actual globe
um, can I remove the clouds?
That is actually not useful right now. Is there a maybe under layers bottom left there we go. Here we go
Okay, so yeah, vancouver to florida real far actually like
Ridiculously far. Yeah, that fight sucks. Um, but maybe not farther than to newfoundland
That that looks pretty similar ish newfoundland might be further. Is it worth farther? Excuse me
Okay, but what about vancouver to the usa? Okay
You mean america to america that's a that's a national flight
Uh, thanks for tuning in. We'll see you again next week. Same bad time same bad channel
I don't know. Bye
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