{"video_id":"fp_Pkn5s0qeFm","title":"FP Exclusive: Jonathan Reacts to Apple's M2 Pro Products","channel":"FP Exclusives","show":"FP Exclusives","published_at":"2023-01-19T02:26:00.048Z","duration_s":275,"segments":[{"start_s":0.0,"end_s":6.4,"text":"And the new MacBook Pro, with its powerful groundbreaking features, simply has no equal.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":6.4,"end_s":10.9,"text":"Together, they join the rest of our extraordinary Mac lineup with Apple Silicon,","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":10.9,"end_s":15.4,"text":"where we continue our tremendous pace of innovation.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":15.4,"end_s":18.4,"text":"Thanks for joining us, and have a great day.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":21.9,"end_s":27.6,"text":"Alright, Jonathan, what do you think? Well, it was a nice little announcement.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":27.6,"end_s":34.3,"text":"It's good to see some of the computers get the M2. I felt like the rumors were going to say, oh, we're going to just skip M2 and go to M3.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":34.3,"end_s":41.6,"text":"But clearly not. Yes, there's a new Mac mini, which is much cheaper down the base model, which is good for everyone.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":41.6,"end_s":44.7,"text":"And it finally gets the M2 Pro processor.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":44.7,"end_s":51.6,"text":"It's $1,300. It's a $300 price increase over the equivalent Mac M2 Mac mini.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":51.6,"end_s":55.0,"text":"That's the same price increase if you go from an equivalent MacBook Air to MacBook Pro.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":55.0,"end_s":58.9,"text":"But you get a better screen with that. I don't know what you think about that.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":58.9,"end_s":66.0,"text":"Okay, check this out. There's this funny moment in here I need to show you. They had this montage with all these people using the Mac mini.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":66.0,"end_s":70.5,"text":"And I thought this was quite funny. So, come on, play it.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":70.5,"end_s":80.3,"text":"Okay, so she goes in. She has to plug the dongle into the back to put in this SD card.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":80.4,"end_s":84.6,"text":"If they're going to upgrade the Mac mini, they should have at least added an SD card reader, right?","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":84.6,"end_s":88.1,"text":"You may have to do that. You made a good point.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":88.1,"end_s":93.4,"text":"Apparently, the Mac mini, it's in the same chassis, but it takes up less space, right?","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":93.4,"end_s":96.8,"text":"They obviously have the capability to add an SD port in there, right?","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":96.8,"end_s":103.2,"text":"This is the one other thing I'm a little bit cheesed about. It's been the same looking Mac mini since 2009.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":103.2,"end_s":109.0,"text":"And that was a long time ago. And back then, that Mac mini had a disk drive.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":109.0,"end_s":115.6,"text":"And actually, look at this. It had an SD card reader back in 2010.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":115.6,"end_s":121.9,"text":"Like they had an SD card reader in the Mac mini 13 years ago.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":121.9,"end_s":126.5,"text":"Did they have any reasoning for taking it out?","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":126.5,"end_s":129.9,"text":"Only professionals get SD card readers, like if you get the MacBook Pro,","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":129.9,"end_s":133.7,"text":"which they upgraded the processors there too. Not really much to report there.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":133.7,"end_s":138.5,"text":"We're just going to have to see how they are, but apparently they're a little bit faster.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":138.5,"end_s":147.3,"text":"Oh yeah, the big news as well as the new HomePod. I haven't had a chance to look at the dimensions, but less speakers, less microphones,","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":147.3,"end_s":150.8,"text":"it is going to be a little less expensive than the other HomePod was.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":150.8,"end_s":156.0,"text":"We'll see if this makes a difference. They're also like pitching it as like, use it as TV speakers,","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":156.0,"end_s":159.3,"text":"which if you need to stereo pair them, that's like 600 bucks.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":159.3,"end_s":162.9,"text":"You need an Apple TV to do it though.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":162.9,"end_s":167.6,"text":"So we'll see. I can't wait to try that out actually, yeah.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":167.6,"end_s":174.5,"text":"And I think that's about it. It was just little, little announcements. I'll be exciting to try kind of just to see how the new computers work out.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":174.5,"end_s":184.0,"text":"I do think probably for most people having a Mac mini being slightly cheaper and better is a good thing.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":184.0,"end_s":189.5,"text":"What do you think is going to be the sweet spot for most people? What Mac book do you think most people are going to buy?","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":189.5,"end_s":194.5,"text":"If you're a normal person and you're just doing like web browsing, like you're not going to like have a bajillion tabs open,","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":194.5,"end_s":197.9,"text":"you probably find with a base model Mac and if you're going to go base model,","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":197.9,"end_s":202.5,"text":"then you can still get like a refurbished M1 MacBook Air or something like that.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":202.5,"end_s":209.2,"text":"But if you're like, say for instance, humming and hawing between like an M2 MacBook Air with upgraded specs","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":209.2,"end_s":213.7,"text":"or getting like a refurbished MacBook Pro, even with an M1 Pro that's base,","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":213.7,"end_s":217.8,"text":"but with the same specs, I would probably end towards that because it's just better screen.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":217.8,"end_s":222.9,"text":"It is way faster, that sort of thing. So there's like, there are like these kind of weird jumps.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":222.9,"end_s":233.6,"text":"You have to decide whether you're going to go up to that. But you know, there's something very compelling about the M2 Pro 14-inch MacBook Pro","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":233.6,"end_s":238.7,"text":"as sort of this like sweet spot for giving you a really excellent computer that is pricey,","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":238.7,"end_s":243.6,"text":"but you could use it probably for just about anything. It's like kind of right in the middle.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":243.6,"end_s":248.5,"text":"That's sort of what I've learned. Even gaming?","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":248.5,"end_s":255.6,"text":"Come on. They were advertising No Man's Sky. They're like, wow, the new Mac Mini is console-level graphics for No Man's Sky.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":255.6,"end_s":261.2,"text":"So sure, if you want to do that, if you want to play two games, it's available.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":261.2,"end_s":265.9,"text":"I mean, there are other games, I guess, with Apple Arcade, but yeah.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":265.9,"end_s":271.7,"text":"Can't wait to try that. If you want to do gaming, get something that's made for gaming,","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":271.7,"end_s":274.4,"text":"which everyone else will tell you about here.","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0}],"full_text":"And the new MacBook Pro, with its powerful groundbreaking features, simply has no equal. Together, they join the rest of our extraordinary Mac lineup with Apple Silicon, where we continue our tremendous pace of innovation. Thanks for joining us, and have a great day. Alright, Jonathan, what do you think? Well, it was a nice little announcement. It's good to see some of the computers get the M2. I felt like the rumors were going to say, oh, we're going to just skip M2 and go to M3. But clearly not. Yes, there's a new Mac mini, which is much cheaper down the base model, which is good for everyone. And it finally gets the M2 Pro processor. It's $1,300. It's a $300 price increase over the equivalent Mac M2 Mac mini. That's the same price increase if you go from an equivalent MacBook Air to MacBook Pro. But you get a better screen with that. I don't know what you think about that. Okay, check this out. There's this funny moment in here I need to show you. They had this montage with all these people using the Mac mini. And I thought this was quite funny. So, come on, play it. Okay, so she goes in. She has to plug the dongle into the back to put in this SD card. If they're going to upgrade the Mac mini, they should have at least added an SD card reader, right? You may have to do that. You made a good point. Apparently, the Mac mini, it's in the same chassis, but it takes up less space, right? They obviously have the capability to add an SD port in there, right? This is the one other thing I'm a little bit cheesed about. It's been the same looking Mac mini since 2009. And that was a long time ago. And back then, that Mac mini had a disk drive. And actually, look at this. It had an SD card reader back in 2010. Like they had an SD card reader in the Mac mini 13 years ago. Did they have any reasoning for taking it out? Only professionals get SD card readers, like if you get the MacBook Pro, which they upgraded the processors there too. Not really much to report there. We're just going to have to see how they are, but apparently they're a little bit faster. Oh yeah, the big news as well as the new HomePod. I haven't had a chance to look at the dimensions, but less speakers, less microphones, it is going to be a little less expensive than the other HomePod was. We'll see if this makes a difference. They're also like pitching it as like, use it as TV speakers, which if you need to stereo pair them, that's like 600 bucks. You need an Apple TV to do it though. So we'll see. I can't wait to try that out actually, yeah. And I think that's about it. It was just little, little announcements. I'll be exciting to try kind of just to see how the new computers work out. I do think probably for most people having a Mac mini being slightly cheaper and better is a good thing. What do you think is going to be the sweet spot for most people? What Mac book do you think most people are going to buy? If you're a normal person and you're just doing like web browsing, like you're not going to like have a bajillion tabs open, you probably find with a base model Mac and if you're going to go base model, then you can still get like a refurbished M1 MacBook Air or something like that. But if you're like, say for instance, humming and hawing between like an M2 MacBook Air with upgraded specs or getting like a refurbished MacBook Pro, even with an M1 Pro that's base, but with the same specs, I would probably end towards that because it's just better screen. It is way faster, that sort of thing. So there's like, there are like these kind of weird jumps. You have to decide whether you're going to go up to that. But you know, there's something very compelling about the M2 Pro 14-inch MacBook Pro as sort of this like sweet spot for giving you a really excellent computer that is pricey, but you could use it probably for just about anything. It's like kind of right in the middle. That's sort of what I've learned. Even gaming? Come on. They were advertising No Man's Sky. They're like, wow, the new Mac Mini is console-level graphics for No Man's Sky. So sure, if you want to do that, if you want to play two games, it's available. I mean, there are other games, I guess, with Apple Arcade, but yeah. Can't wait to try that. If you want to do gaming, get something that's made for gaming, which everyone else will tell you about here."}