1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:04,480 This setup is so crazy, I needed every single one of these remotes to make it work. 2 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:09,040 Oh, jeez. No! And this is a simplified version of the setup. 3 00:00:09,040 --> 00:00:14,640 Let me show you everything. I'm going to go through the setup in the same order that we played through it in the video. 4 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:19,280 So the first thing we did is we played on our Genesis, which is down down there. 5 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:24,560 This is a regular Genesis to this composite splitter. 6 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:28,480 This is a cool little splitter device. It does composite and component. 7 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:32,400 It's not really a sought after device for video games, 8 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:37,360 but it does the job and I've kind of kept it as a backup in my pack pocket if I needed it. 9 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:44,800 And it turns out this was what saved the day. Don't worry, I only use composite for the first part of the video to show how bad of a use case it is. 10 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:48,480 We have a whole set of RGB and component switchers and stuff, 11 00:00:48,480 --> 00:00:52,960 but I'm going to save that for a little bit later. First, let's show off the HDMI runs. 12 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:57,120 The HDMI stuff's pretty straightforward. You know, you plug it into a switcher, 13 00:00:57,120 --> 00:01:00,480 goes to another switcher, goes to another switcher, easy stuff. 14 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:06,880 Let's just do an example run. So for the switch, you know, we have our switch is going into this four by two matrix. 15 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:10,160 This one can do 4k HDR. This one has two outs. 16 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:14,160 One of these is going directly to our other matrix, which I'll get to in a second. 17 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:17,840 But then there's one that's going to a 4k splitter, 18 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:24,160 and that's being split to both retro-tink. So I could actually have both retro-tink 4ks going at once. 19 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:32,640 This one's not plugged in because we shot a bunch of stuff with it yesterday. Once those send the HDMI over, they send it to this eight by eight matrix 20 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:36,960 that AVPro Edge also sent to us. It's actually an insane device. 21 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:42,960 It's $8,800 and it's just kind of a top of the line machine. 22 00:01:42,960 --> 00:01:46,320 It does 8k HDR, variable refresh rate. 23 00:01:46,320 --> 00:01:50,240 And because the retro-tink does 4k HDR with variable refresh rate, 24 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:53,680 we needed something this high-end to make this whole video possible. 25 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:58,400 Huge thank you to AVPro Edge. So the first two are our retro-tink 4ks. 26 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:02,800 Our third one's coming from our retro-tink 5x, which is part of our analog run. 27 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:07,920 This is an OSSC. We shot the video yesterday. We actually didn't end up using that, but we did test it. 28 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:12,560 Very impressive response times, but I find the feature sort of limiting on it. 29 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:17,680 And then this one is from our four by two matrix, which is the unprocessed HDMI from our HDMI consoles. 30 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:22,880 That way I could display any scalar on this TV. And then on the bottom, I could show just like a naked HDMI 31 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:27,040 so that you can get a comparison. Or we could show multiple different scalers at once, 32 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:30,080 including two retro-tinks at once on different settings. It was a lot. 33 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:36,560 As far as outputting from this thing. So our first one goes directly to our OLED 1. 34 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:42,560 Second one goes directly to our OLED 2 on the bottom. Wow, this HDMI port is not happy. 35 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:45,600 Oh, boy. Oh, jeez. 36 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:49,440 Oh, boy. The third one goes to another splitter. 37 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:53,360 And this is one that can do scaling and strip HDR out. 38 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:58,480 So I can scale it 4K to 1080p. It's going to two outputs. 39 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:01,760 And the reason I needed it scaled to 1080p 40 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:05,040 is because it's going to two extra on scalers. 41 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:10,080 One is the DSC 301, which takes HDMI and outputs HDMI. 42 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:14,320 But what it's doing in this case is it's taking 1080p video 43 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:20,960 and interlacing it to 1080i, which is what the HDCRT is best at on the bottom. 44 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:25,440 So that's kind of the best case scenario. With that TV, if you give it other resolutions, 45 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:30,480 it can display it, but it'll add so much lag that the ideal thing you want to do is turn off 46 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:33,840 HDPT in the service menu and only feed it 1080i. 47 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:38,000 So you kind of need one of these if you want the best case scenario with a Sony HDCRT. 48 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:44,720 And everything is so tangled. This, on the other hand, is our VSC 500. 49 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:48,480 I'm going to show you it upside down because it's tangled. 50 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:54,400 This one takes the 1080p image and downscales it to 480i 51 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:58,320 and converts it to analog so that this TV can display anything 52 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:00,640 that was shown on the HDMI to this. 53 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:05,360 This is also a very versatile device. Both of these are pretty darn cool. 54 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:10,320 When we were measuring our input latency, they were, I think, six milliseconds and eight milliseconds 55 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:15,760 added for that conversion and scaling, which is very well within the realm of acceptable. 56 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:21,120 This one can do RGB out, composite out, S video out, 57 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:25,200 but we use component because it's just what works better 58 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:29,360 with the stuff that I have. Yeah, you need a little HDMI to VGA thing in the first place. 59 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:33,040 There are so many adapters in this thing. Let's go. We're here. 60 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:36,240 We're at the analog run. This is a stupid thing. 61 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:39,440 I chose three different consoles for this video. 62 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:43,840 One is a Neo Geo. It's basically an arcade board with a super gun 63 00:04:43,840 --> 00:04:47,840 that allows you to get video and power the board. It's pretty cool to use these things. 64 00:04:47,840 --> 00:04:53,360 You just use like a crappy power supply, this. And like, I'm going to f**k it. 65 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:58,960 It's, this is not the best thing I should be doing. 66 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:07,280 This was literally in an arcade machine. I bought it off a dude who like runs arcades. 67 00:05:07,280 --> 00:05:11,680 You can buy what SNK made as a home console, which is the AES. 68 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:16,800 Or you can buy these. I got this for I think $80, the super gun for 60 bucks. 69 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:20,480 And that's Canadian. Or you can spend like $700 on the consoloist one. 70 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:23,840 And it's kind of cool. I think the aesthetic of having kind of just a loosey-goosey 71 00:05:23,840 --> 00:05:27,280 arcade board, pretty neat. You can also buy consolization kits. 72 00:05:27,280 --> 00:05:32,000 I've done that with another MBS board at home, but I cheaped out and the RGB on it sucks. 73 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:36,240 So I actually prefer using this. We also have our Dreamcast, which was kind of picked 74 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:41,120 because it's got VGA out. So when I was testing the OSSC versus the RetroTank, 75 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:46,080 it was kind of a good comparison. The one thing that I didn't do is get an active VGA splitter. 76 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:50,240 And so it really dimmed the image and made it that it was 77 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:53,520 not a really great test. It was kind of cool because then you could test the 78 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:57,760 compensation for brightness that everything could do. But we ended up not using that instead, 79 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:00,080 just focusing Neo Geo and PS2. 80 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:04,000 These are both consoles that I modded, just the shells. 81 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:07,280 This one has the GDMU board in it, 82 00:06:07,280 --> 00:06:13,280 so that it doesn't have a disk drive, but you can play games off an SD card that I legally own for sure. 83 00:06:13,280 --> 00:06:19,120 That's right. I own all of them. And then this is a PS2 that I very hastily swapped the shell on. 84 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:22,720 It's just a PS2 shell, but I did a really bad job. 85 00:06:23,280 --> 00:06:26,480 And if I don't press it in the right spot, 86 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:29,760 it thinks that it's open. Come on, buddy. 87 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:33,600 There you go. So yeah, I have to press it down for it to spin or it stops. 88 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:39,360 But obviously I can't do that in the video. So I had to place these kind of just in the right spot 89 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:45,600 and see it's spinning. It's spinning. So if you see this tower on top of a PS2 in the video, 90 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:50,560 you now know why. So out of these three consoles, I had SCART from the Neo Geo, Component from the PS2, 91 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:54,000 and VGA from the Dreamcast, which goes to the back. 92 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:58,480 Let's do Neo Geo first, because it's kind of, I think, the most interesting run. 93 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:03,760 Originally, I wanted to test way more consoles, but the testing for this and the setup took a long time. 94 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:08,000 And I think we did a pretty comprehensive job testing a bunch of use cases. 95 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:14,880 So the point is, I brought my 8-in, 3-out SCART switcher. 96 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:17,360 So you can do eight different inputs of SCART consoles. 97 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:22,800 If you're watching this, you probably know what SCART is, but if you don't, it was basically a European... 98 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:26,960 It was basically a standard everywhere but North America. While we had composite video, 99 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:29,920 you know, one pin for everything of your video, 100 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:35,840 SCART has like 20, let's say 20-ish pins, 101 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:40,640 and it doesn't use all of them. There's a lot of them that are superfluous, especially depending on what signal it's sending. 102 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:45,440 But almost universally, unless it's sending composite over SCART, 103 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:48,480 this is a better connector in terms of video quality. 104 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:53,840 And so most people now, even in North America, you generally are going to move towards an RGB setup 105 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:59,520 that's going to use SCART. So here, the functionality that I'm using really is the splitting. 106 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:03,200 So I have two SCART outs. One is going to the RetroTink 5X, 107 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:09,840 and one is going to the RetroTink 4K. The third output on this is actually through RCA, 108 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:15,680 which works fairly well because I have this SCART 2 component adapter that I use. 109 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:22,400 At home, I generally use the SCART 2 component. I just have mostly components runs 110 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:25,840 for everything that's in my retro setup, and I'll show you guys the extra on after. 111 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:31,200 So this worked really well. RGB in, component out. And then the component out went to this switcher, 112 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:37,600 which took input from the analog run, but also the digital run from this extra on. 113 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:40,880 And I could select both, and then output that to the TV, 114 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:43,920 depending on what test we were doing. I didn't have to unplug, re-plug stuff, 115 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:48,080 simplifying it a little bit. This is for the Dreamcast. 116 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:51,680 To get VGA out, I have the Bahar Bros. Toro. 117 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:56,240 Basically, you can do SCART and VGA out from it, 118 00:08:57,200 --> 00:09:00,800 just from the Dreamcast connector. It's pretty good. 119 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:04,800 I bought this use, and I think the SCART on this doesn't work quite right. 120 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:08,480 I've never been able to get a great image out of it. I mean, I just unplugged that. 121 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:12,560 But the VGA is what I use at home anyway, so it's not a huge deal. 122 00:09:12,560 --> 00:09:16,960 Last piece of the puzzle is the Extron Crosspoint 300, 123 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:21,360 which is a matrix switcher. It can do RGB, it can do component, 124 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:26,800 as well as composite. I'll show you guys the back, because I think it looks coolest from the back. 125 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:32,080 It's funny how messy this is, considering I barely even utilized half of this. 126 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:38,080 So this one has eight inputs and four outputs. 127 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:41,120 I kind of wish I had gotten the eight output one, 128 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:44,800 but for this case, it was fine. It would have been nice to have a fifth one. 129 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:51,120 One of the things that's kind of neat on it is it has the five BNC jacks. 130 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:55,920 So you have to use these little RCA to BNC connectors, 131 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:59,040 or you can get five BNC cables and make that work too, 132 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:02,640 but seeing as I already have a bunch of component cables lying around this made more sense. 133 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:06,320 These are like 17 cents each. But those five don't do audio. 134 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:09,120 That's for RGB and then different kinds of sync. 135 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:13,760 But you get audio on the bottom, and I bought these little modules 136 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:17,680 that go from the five pin Phoenix connectors to RCA, 137 00:10:17,680 --> 00:10:22,000 just to keep it simple. You could cut the cables yourself 138 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:24,720 and then run them to this connector, 139 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:33,280 but I found these for like $3 each and saving $40 to save myself an hour or two 140 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:36,320 of just cutting cables and putting connectors in was worth it. 141 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:42,240 Right now we're running gains on our mister. We're going from mister to HDMI matrix to splitter 142 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:45,360 to retro-tink as well as the matrix. 143 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:50,880 Right now, you're seeing both directly from the mister, but with a button presser too, if this is... 144 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:53,680 It's not connected, screw that. You guys get the idea. 145 00:10:55,680 --> 00:10:59,760 And then we get our HDMI's out to this, which are being scaled to this. 146 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:04,000 One of the nice things about the extraons is that you can customize the stretch and the size. 147 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:07,520 One of the bad things is that sometimes when it turns off and on, 148 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:12,080 the settings kind of reset and you get this. But that's the rundown. 149 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:15,360 That's the setup. What did you think? If you like it, let me know. 150 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:19,680 If you don't, go away. Okay, bye.