We're rushing this one because it's hot as heck in here.
I'm here with Ploof. And what do you do for the company?
Right. Good. All right. AI, good, bad?
Thoughts? Man, it's such a mixed bag.
I think overall it's really cool, and it's a great idea. We could speed up things like machine learning.
We can use it to diagnose people who have weird symptoms and stuff, because let's face it,
people are limited at some point. But it becomes bad when we basically use prior work
to then create new stuff.
And the people that made that work previously don't get any credit for it.
So I'm obviously talking about mid-journey and the AI art
stuff, like that's garbage. The whole idea of it's really cool,
but it's not fair to anyone else whose work is being trained
on. Same thing goes for writing. Look at articles. You can tell when it's a AI written article.
Like it's just kind of bad. And that's being trained on everyone who's written stuff.
So I think it's cool, but I think ultimately it's probably
going to lead to a major issue. There's going to be a lot of jobs that just go away.
I've already seen posts, people that are like, yeah, I used to make a small living just writing time stamps
for companies and stuff. All of a sudden, AI is doing that.
It's doing a worse job than him, is what he wrote.
But it's not doing a worse enough job that they're willing to take him over the AI.
So it's a good and a bad thing, I don't know. Well, I didn't see any article like that.
I know that there's like people get fought, people like, there was like some thing we talked about.
It was like, it was like some mental health place where like they fired a bunch of people
and then replaced it with AI. And that's the problem is, you know,
it's kind of like when industrialization happened, all of a sudden a lot of people lost their jobs
and they were forced to move to cities because manufacturing became a thing.
I can see AI kind of being like that. Some stuff, no, it's really hard to replicate,
but honestly give it, you know, five more years,
three more years, 10 more years. Like the more this stuff goes on and gets trained,
the better it's gonna be. And then all of a sudden, it's not garbage anymore.
All of a sudden it's not making mistakes anymore. Now that being said, it's definitely not perfect.
Just about any time we try to make like some kind of AI chat bot, you give it a week or a month
and it turns racist and sexist. You know, as soon as it gets access to 4chan,
it just goes straight downhill.
But I don't know. So I love it, but at the same time, I hate it.
And I am definitely terrified of some kind of a terminator-ish future where AI says,
ah, you know, humans kind of suck and they're basically just a parasite on the earth. So we should kill them.
And then it just nukes everyone. Yeah, I think that's like the general fear people have about just, I guess, AI in general.
But so then you sounds like you're kind of more against it than for it or?
I'd say yes in certain settings.
I'm definitely for it if it can help like diagnose people
or figure out new cures for diseases and stuff like that. Like machine learning is great.
And I think it can be used in a lot of really useful ways.
But when it comes to like artistic side of things,
yeah, maybe it's cool to get a concept, but then you should have to create that yourself.
I don't know. It's such a weird space.
Yeah, whatever I said, but it's like, it should be like a starting point, not the end product.
That's really a way to put it. I'm totally down with taking like Mid Journey
or any other company like that and basically using it to generate ideas.
It can be a brainstorm session, that is fine. But then you should take what it's brainstormed
and like make it your own thing, right? Cause all it is at that time is some amalgamation of ideas
from other people who haven't gotten any money or credit for what it's making.
All right, so then as a tech company that we are,
and a creative company, do you think that we should be using AI at any level?
Not really. Maybe machine learning for the lab,
but like real AI and using it to make,
I don't know, I don't think so. I just, I hate the idea of eliminating jobs,
especially when it's not ready. I think in a couple of years that story might change
and I might be like, yeah, sure, I don't want to make the timestamps for every video.
So run it through the AI generator to generate those timestamps for us, like fine.
But right now, nah. So I get the question here,
but so then it sounds like you aren't afraid that it's gonna take over your job in the future
or anything like that. I'm not personally right now
because the line of work we're in, like yeah, there's deep fakes and yeah,
you can like make fake line of tech tips episodes and stuff like that.
But it's several years out at least to the point
where I might be, I might worry about like retiring from something like this in 20 years
because it's probably gone by then, but I think 20 years we've got a lot of other problems.
Yeah, like this warming that we're in.
I'm like, I'm more excited, I feel it. All right, I'm gonna skip one question
and just go jump to the right thing because I'm dying. I want to know the question. All right, all right.
Have you used AI before? And if so, what are your thoughts on it? The only thing I've really done with AI was when mid-journey
and those other guys were coming out, I was messing around on it.
I was like, yeah, this is cool. Ha ha, like Trump eating a lemon or whatever.
I don't know. That's like the, oh my God. Why is that my example?
But like, yeah, it was a lot of fun. And then it took a hot minute, but then I'm like,
oh, hold on a second, where did they get all this data from?
That's not good. Okay, and then I just stopped using it instantly.
I left the Discord group and I've been very against it
ever since, chat GPT, kind of the same thing. It sucks because my cousin loves it
because he's not the best writer. So he's like, yeah, I had to write this thing and I didn't want to write it.
So I just got chat GPT to do it and I was like, I get it. You think it's cool, but it's, I don't know.
Yeah. No, personally, I use chat GPT for like, if I wanted to know like, oh, what's a good workout
for this like, set of muscles or like a good like,
like diet for my age and height and like weight and stuff.
You know, like, I think that's useful. But like in terms of like writing stuff,
like I'm like, we should learn how to write first
before you start using technology to replace that. Yeah.
And on top of that, hasn't there been, I mean, this is maybe just, you know, garbage,
but haven't there been court cases and stuff where like a lawyer was caught using chat GPT
and then it fabricated a case?
I'm pretty sure. I didn't hear that. I'm pretty sure that was the thing. Maybe I'm wrong.
But if stuff like that is happening and AI at this level
is at the point where it's like creating a fake narrative,
can you trust it for anything? Yeah, I know that there was a court case
where it's like a monkey took a selfie from another photographer's camera.
And then I think Peter sued the photographer saying that like this monkey,
the monkey is the owner of it rather than the photographer because it was his camera.
So it's like, it shows that like, it doesn't matter who the type mirror is,
it's the person, their origin, the creator. So it's like, you don't know who the creator is
when it's like AI generated. Yeah, absolutely. You don't know, it's just an amalgamation of people.
All right, I'm sweating like crazy. So we're gonna wrap it up here. Do you want to say anything to the float planers?
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It's that they're float planers. So any message for them or like something
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I don't know. Subscribers, subscribers. Subscribers, no, but I said you two subscribers, you know.
I think float planers is a good one. Sure. Unless I'm getting in trouble for that,
then I didn't coin that phrase. It was never you, I never heard it here first.
Yeah, but unless if people like it, then it's mine.
You heard it here first. You heard it first. I'm Sammy, this is my sweat.
Goodbye, float planers.