1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,240 We're rushing this one because it's hot as heck in here. 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:07,040 I'm here with Ploof. And what do you do for the company? 3 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:10,360 Right. Good. All right. AI, good, bad? 4 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:13,560 Thoughts? Man, it's such a mixed bag. 5 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:19,360 I think overall it's really cool, and it's a great idea. We could speed up things like machine learning. 6 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:24,080 We can use it to diagnose people who have weird symptoms and stuff, because let's face it, 7 00:00:24,080 --> 00:00:31,640 people are limited at some point. But it becomes bad when we basically use prior work 8 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:35,320 to then create new stuff. 9 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:38,320 And the people that made that work previously don't get any credit for it. 10 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:41,800 So I'm obviously talking about mid-journey and the AI art 11 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:46,320 stuff, like that's garbage. The whole idea of it's really cool, 12 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:49,520 but it's not fair to anyone else whose work is being trained 13 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:55,000 on. Same thing goes for writing. Look at articles. You can tell when it's a AI written article. 14 00:00:55,040 --> 00:01:00,200 Like it's just kind of bad. And that's being trained on everyone who's written stuff. 15 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:03,320 So I think it's cool, but I think ultimately it's probably 16 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:09,120 going to lead to a major issue. There's going to be a lot of jobs that just go away. 17 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:14,360 I've already seen posts, people that are like, yeah, I used to make a small living just writing time stamps 18 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:18,000 for companies and stuff. All of a sudden, AI is doing that. 19 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:21,040 It's doing a worse job than him, is what he wrote. 20 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:26,240 But it's not doing a worse enough job that they're willing to take him over the AI. 21 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:30,520 So it's a good and a bad thing, I don't know. Well, I didn't see any article like that. 22 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:35,720 I know that there's like people get fought, people like, there was like some thing we talked about. 23 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:39,720 It was like, it was like some mental health place where like they fired a bunch of people 24 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:44,000 and then replaced it with AI. And that's the problem is, you know, 25 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:47,760 it's kind of like when industrialization happened, all of a sudden a lot of people lost their jobs 26 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:51,600 and they were forced to move to cities because manufacturing became a thing. 27 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:56,720 I can see AI kind of being like that. Some stuff, no, it's really hard to replicate, 28 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:59,760 but honestly give it, you know, five more years, 29 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:03,880 three more years, 10 more years. Like the more this stuff goes on and gets trained, 30 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:07,480 the better it's gonna be. And then all of a sudden, it's not garbage anymore. 31 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:11,320 All of a sudden it's not making mistakes anymore. Now that being said, it's definitely not perfect. 32 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:15,320 Just about any time we try to make like some kind of AI chat bot, you give it a week or a month 33 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:19,320 and it turns racist and sexist. You know, as soon as it gets access to 4chan, 34 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:21,440 it just goes straight downhill. 35 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:26,520 But I don't know. So I love it, but at the same time, I hate it. 36 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:31,080 And I am definitely terrified of some kind of a terminator-ish future where AI says, 37 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:34,760 ah, you know, humans kind of suck and they're basically just a parasite on the earth. So we should kill them. 38 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:40,320 And then it just nukes everyone. Yeah, I think that's like the general fear people have about just, I guess, AI in general. 39 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:44,520 But so then you sounds like you're kind of more against it than for it or? 40 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:48,800 I'd say yes in certain settings. 41 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:52,360 I'm definitely for it if it can help like diagnose people 42 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:57,520 or figure out new cures for diseases and stuff like that. Like machine learning is great. 43 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:00,520 And I think it can be used in a lot of really useful ways. 44 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:04,800 But when it comes to like artistic side of things, 45 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:09,640 yeah, maybe it's cool to get a concept, but then you should have to create that yourself. 46 00:03:09,640 --> 00:03:12,720 I don't know. It's such a weird space. 47 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:17,040 Yeah, whatever I said, but it's like, it should be like a starting point, not the end product. 48 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:20,640 That's really a way to put it. I'm totally down with taking like Mid Journey 49 00:03:20,640 --> 00:03:24,960 or any other company like that and basically using it to generate ideas. 50 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:29,040 It can be a brainstorm session, that is fine. But then you should take what it's brainstormed 51 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:34,520 and like make it your own thing, right? Cause all it is at that time is some amalgamation of ideas 52 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:40,000 from other people who haven't gotten any money or credit for what it's making. 53 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:45,000 All right, so then as a tech company that we are, 54 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:49,320 and a creative company, do you think that we should be using AI at any level? 55 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:55,660 Not really. Maybe machine learning for the lab, 56 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:02,480 but like real AI and using it to make, 57 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:06,360 I don't know, I don't think so. I just, I hate the idea of eliminating jobs, 58 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:10,160 especially when it's not ready. I think in a couple of years that story might change 59 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:14,360 and I might be like, yeah, sure, I don't want to make the timestamps for every video. 60 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:17,640 So run it through the AI generator to generate those timestamps for us, like fine. 61 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:21,200 But right now, nah. So I get the question here, 62 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:25,360 but so then it sounds like you aren't afraid that it's gonna take over your job in the future 63 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:29,200 or anything like that. I'm not personally right now 64 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:33,720 because the line of work we're in, like yeah, there's deep fakes and yeah, 65 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:37,340 you can like make fake line of tech tips episodes and stuff like that. 66 00:04:37,340 --> 00:04:41,080 But it's several years out at least to the point 67 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:45,240 where I might be, I might worry about like retiring from something like this in 20 years 68 00:04:45,280 --> 00:04:49,160 because it's probably gone by then, but I think 20 years we've got a lot of other problems. 69 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:52,320 Yeah, like this warming that we're in. 70 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:55,720 I'm like, I'm more excited, I feel it. All right, I'm gonna skip one question 71 00:04:55,720 --> 00:05:00,280 and just go jump to the right thing because I'm dying. I want to know the question. All right, all right. 72 00:05:00,280 --> 00:05:06,320 Have you used AI before? And if so, what are your thoughts on it? The only thing I've really done with AI was when mid-journey 73 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:09,600 and those other guys were coming out, I was messing around on it. 74 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:13,280 I was like, yeah, this is cool. Ha ha, like Trump eating a lemon or whatever. 75 00:05:13,280 --> 00:05:16,400 I don't know. That's like the, oh my God. Why is that my example? 76 00:05:17,840 --> 00:05:21,320 But like, yeah, it was a lot of fun. And then it took a hot minute, but then I'm like, 77 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:25,240 oh, hold on a second, where did they get all this data from? 78 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:28,960 That's not good. Okay, and then I just stopped using it instantly. 79 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:32,960 I left the Discord group and I've been very against it 80 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:36,880 ever since, chat GPT, kind of the same thing. It sucks because my cousin loves it 81 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:40,360 because he's not the best writer. So he's like, yeah, I had to write this thing and I didn't want to write it. 82 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:45,520 So I just got chat GPT to do it and I was like, I get it. You think it's cool, but it's, I don't know. 83 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:50,160 Yeah. No, personally, I use chat GPT for like, if I wanted to know like, oh, what's a good workout 84 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:54,080 for this like, set of muscles or like a good like, 85 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:58,000 like diet for my age and height and like weight and stuff. 86 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:01,440 You know, like, I think that's useful. But like in terms of like writing stuff, 87 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:04,840 like I'm like, we should learn how to write first 88 00:06:04,840 --> 00:06:08,640 before you start using technology to replace that. Yeah. 89 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:12,680 And on top of that, hasn't there been, I mean, this is maybe just, you know, garbage, 90 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:16,880 but haven't there been court cases and stuff where like a lawyer was caught using chat GPT 91 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:18,860 and then it fabricated a case? 92 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:23,480 I'm pretty sure. I didn't hear that. I'm pretty sure that was the thing. Maybe I'm wrong. 93 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:27,600 But if stuff like that is happening and AI at this level 94 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:30,760 is at the point where it's like creating a fake narrative, 95 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:33,840 can you trust it for anything? Yeah, I know that there was a court case 96 00:06:33,840 --> 00:06:38,320 where it's like a monkey took a selfie from another photographer's camera. 97 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:42,080 And then I think Peter sued the photographer saying that like this monkey, 98 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:45,760 the monkey is the owner of it rather than the photographer because it was his camera. 99 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:49,360 So it's like, it shows that like, it doesn't matter who the type mirror is, 100 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:52,840 it's the person, their origin, the creator. So it's like, you don't know who the creator is 101 00:06:52,840 --> 00:06:57,760 when it's like AI generated. Yeah, absolutely. You don't know, it's just an amalgamation of people. 102 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:02,120 All right, I'm sweating like crazy. So we're gonna wrap it up here. Do you want to say anything to the float planers? 103 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:06,640 I'm trying to coin this phrase now for people who've subscribed to us on Floatplane.com. 104 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:09,880 It's that they're float planers. So any message for them or like something 105 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:14,920 that we didn't talk about that you wanted to expand on? Tell Sammy you don't like being called float planers. 106 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:20,640 Then, okay, what should we call them then? What should we call them then? I don't know. 107 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:25,760 I don't know. Subscribers, subscribers. Subscribers, no, but I said you two subscribers, you know. 108 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:29,680 I think float planers is a good one. Sure. Unless I'm getting in trouble for that, 109 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:33,200 then I didn't coin that phrase. It was never you, I never heard it here first. 110 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:36,600 Yeah, but unless if people like it, then it's mine. 111 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:41,280 You heard it here first. You heard it first. I'm Sammy, this is my sweat. 112 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:42,480 Goodbye, float planers.