WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:04.480 Welcome Emily and Jonathan, WWC just wrapped up and I just want your thoughts. What do you 00:00:04.480 --> 00:00:09.920 guys think of the event? I mean for me it seemed like it was a much longer event than last time 00:00:09.920 --> 00:00:14.880 and a lot more content in it like it was stuffed to the brim like they actually had to cut some 00:00:14.880 --> 00:00:19.200 things it seemed like like some things that were actually kind of interesting like resizing icons 00:00:19.200 --> 00:00:25.280 on iOS rcs support so like the new the rich messaging system that's like kind of universal 00:00:25.280 --> 00:00:28.880 they cut art oh so they are supporting rcs yeah so they just didn't talk about it 00:00:29.440 --> 00:00:35.680 they they mentioned it briefly towards the end with all the yeah yeah yeah with the summary 00:00:35.680 --> 00:00:39.600 but they didn't show it and they also didn't show like resizing icons so you can actually make an 00:00:39.600 --> 00:00:43.760 icon bigger yeah you can make icons bigger you can move them wherever you want you can put them on 00:00:43.760 --> 00:00:51.040 the grid just like I'm like I'm right no I missed a lot wow did you did you come in late no I mean 00:00:51.040 --> 00:00:58.080 no I missed the I did miss the right at the beginning the promo the first part of the promo 00:00:58.080 --> 00:01:03.760 the apple tv plus stuff but you know there's like all the I uh it's hard to write notes and then 00:01:03.760 --> 00:01:08.480 what look at the like little bento box yeah so it's all in a bento box I gotta look at those 00:01:08.480 --> 00:01:13.600 bento box before I write I write I guess yeah I'm glad rcs is there because I literally wrote 00:01:13.600 --> 00:01:19.280 where is rcs yeah tell me I think a bigger thing to mention yeah you would think so but like he 00:01:19.280 --> 00:01:26.960 literally just spent like 10 words saying oh and also you can resize icons and we have rcs support 00:01:26.960 --> 00:01:33.360 see this kind of comes down to a fundamental of the way apple events have been going now 00:01:33.360 --> 00:01:39.360 which is these kind of really fast paced uh don't look away or or blink because you're gonna miss 00:01:39.360 --> 00:01:47.680 something infomercials and I really miss the live shows when they would like be on stage and like 00:01:47.680 --> 00:01:52.080 have to demo things live to show that it actually works they don't have to prove that anything 00:01:52.160 --> 00:01:56.160 works now you know the videos work like when they do like that ipad or at least they did a 00:01:56.720 --> 00:02:01.840 month and a bit ago the videos work for something like that and maybe in between events but for 00:02:01.840 --> 00:02:10.320 something as like fundamental and as important as w w dc I feel like a live stage show uh is what I 00:02:10.320 --> 00:02:18.560 I miss and want back because it also requires a bit of even more focus yeah I mean once upon a time 00:02:18.560 --> 00:02:26.160 like they even famously the original iphone reveal that was hacked up so badly like the the 00:02:26.160 --> 00:02:31.200 iphone just didn't work like half the time it would either freeze up or reboot and it was actually a 00:02:31.200 --> 00:02:35.440 miracle that it yeah worked at all yeah and they had to hack it so that it had full signal strength 00:02:35.440 --> 00:02:39.760 but like now they don't really need to do any of that it's all mocked up yeah so like all the 00:02:39.760 --> 00:02:43.680 theory prompts and all the things that are happening on screen that could be happening 00:02:44.240 --> 00:02:49.520 anywhere it's written in a script literally just be it's a scripted yeah it could literally just be 00:02:49.520 --> 00:02:55.040 something that somebody mocked up in um well I guess final cut oh yeah yeah and so it's like 00:02:55.040 --> 00:02:58.480 because the other big question coming up especially we haven't really introduced the 00:02:58.480 --> 00:03:03.600 ass stuff but the big question is like how does this actually work in the real world and like 00:03:03.600 --> 00:03:07.840 I always am thinking about like where are the where are you going to find the walls of limitations 00:03:07.840 --> 00:03:12.720 that are going to be really frustrating when they come up and I don't know it's it's yeah 00:03:12.720 --> 00:03:16.080 that is a good point especially for something like this I feel like a live demo 00:03:16.880 --> 00:03:23.440 is important yeah yeah and like I understand in some cases like say the vision pro it's really 00:03:23.440 --> 00:03:30.400 difficult to get that across right yeah like the vision pro you can't really film that in a way that 00:03:30.400 --> 00:03:39.680 it makes any sense to see so they have to mock that up but with like an iphone thing not really 00:03:39.680 --> 00:03:44.320 I mean even with the vision pro announcement back back earlier this year I or even last year I thought 00:03:44.320 --> 00:03:50.480 it should have been done uh that should also have been done live because like the iphone thing 00:03:50.480 --> 00:03:54.480 it like they really had to push to make sure everything like to hopefully everything works 00:03:55.040 --> 00:03:58.800 and like really be specific about what they're demoing there's I don't know there's like a 00:03:58.800 --> 00:04:05.360 discipline that comes with it that um I worry we're losing well I mean given the length of it 00:04:05.360 --> 00:04:09.360 it's like an hour and 45 minutes or something like that or an hour and a half but like one of the 00:04:09.360 --> 00:04:16.720 things that I found really lacking was they didn't really talk about hardware at all no no yeah like 00:04:16.720 --> 00:04:21.920 I was kind of expecting yeah like I was kind of expecting them to talk about something like oh 00:04:21.920 --> 00:04:26.880 you'll be able to take advantage of this and more with our upcoming m4 pro or whatever you know we'll 00:04:26.880 --> 00:04:31.760 talk about that in the later presentation or something like that right but instead it's just 00:04:31.840 --> 00:04:40.640 like your ipad your iphone your mac and it's like okay but what if my ipad is on the cusp of being 00:04:40.640 --> 00:04:50.800 obsoleted which it is it's the it's the the final pre uh m1 ipad oh the a812z one yeah is it like 00:04:50.800 --> 00:04:57.840 yeah what is it yeah well let's see well they the one example was I think where they were talking 00:04:57.840 --> 00:05:03.280 about apple intelligence it seems like the on-device processing will work on m1's and newer and then 00:05:03.280 --> 00:05:10.000 it seems like a17 and that's the only a chip that'll support all the on all of that stuff so I'm 00:05:10.000 --> 00:05:15.440 still it's still a little I gotta like look into the pages to see kind of where the limitations lie 00:05:15.440 --> 00:05:19.840 yeah um and then obviously then that they did talk a little bit about hardware which shows 00:05:19.840 --> 00:05:23.920 I'm wondering if you're curious about how they created their own little apple silicon servers 00:05:23.920 --> 00:05:30.800 for the uh what do they call it privacy server website privacy scanning was like private cloud 00:05:30.800 --> 00:05:37.360 compute yes that's the one um I am a little bit interested in how they might have done that but 00:05:37.360 --> 00:05:44.640 I'm not sure that's strictly speaking what they're doing I mean it might be maybe we'll have more 00:05:44.640 --> 00:05:53.440 x serves at some point with like a bunch of m5 chips in them you know 256 yeah you're dreaming 00:05:53.440 --> 00:05:58.880 yeah no apple doesn't care about that anymore but you know it's it's something you can think about 00:05:59.520 --> 00:06:04.240 oh man there's so much to talk about with privacy cloud uh a private cloud it's it's basically 00:06:04.960 --> 00:06:13.200 Windows 11 recall if you think about it yeah I except like so like okay private cloud compute 00:06:13.200 --> 00:06:17.040 not specifically but all the all the ai features they're talking about and I don't want to get too 00:06:17.040 --> 00:06:20.960 into the ai right now because this is going to dominate the conversation but like that's doing 00:06:20.960 --> 00:06:25.920 all the same stuff that Windows 11 recall does except they're not specifically saying they're 00:06:25.920 --> 00:06:31.920 taking screenshots um so like you can say hey uh show me that picture of this person who did that 00:06:31.920 --> 00:06:38.640 last week and it'll do it uh or hey what restaurant did so-and-so uh suggest to me a few days ago and 00:06:38.880 --> 00:06:44.560 it'll do that like the same stuff right but apple probably isn't going to get as much scrutiny 00:06:44.560 --> 00:06:49.440 over it because I guess they have a better track record for privacy I mean some of those things it 00:06:49.440 --> 00:06:53.920 feels like we're kind of already in there but they just were there was like no place to like 00:06:53.920 --> 00:06:59.280 unify it so if you for instance you use the example of like finding a picture of so-and-so 00:06:59.280 --> 00:07:03.840 wearing a shirt like you could already look for pictures of a person because they're already doing 00:07:04.320 --> 00:07:10.240 on device facial recognition and then in the example of like oh find the calendar event that 00:07:10.240 --> 00:07:15.280 somebody or calendar somebody that you know the appointment somebody had made in a text message 00:07:15.280 --> 00:07:19.920 like if you look in messages and someone says hey can we do something at 4 p.m on Thursday like it'll 00:07:19.920 --> 00:07:24.960 underline 4 p.m Thursday kind of ready for you to make an event so like that stuff was like it 00:07:24.960 --> 00:07:29.840 feels like the ground work was already kind of laid for this stuff and then now they're finally like 00:07:30.400 --> 00:07:34.000 creating a system to put it all together I'm just still curious how that's all 00:07:34.000 --> 00:07:39.200 going to work but it was like already there yeah I guess so like a lot of it that's another thing 00:07:39.200 --> 00:07:44.320 about the AI stuff is a lot of it is stuff we've already had like oh hey proofreading that's grammar 00:07:44.320 --> 00:07:53.200 check which we had in the 90s yes the automatic memories the the slideshows and stuff yeah it's 00:07:53.200 --> 00:07:58.240 like we had that now it's better you can you can be more specific about it now you can tell 00:07:58.240 --> 00:08:02.000 it what you want to see but like before it would just do that automatically it would just like 00:08:02.000 --> 00:08:07.360 grab all the stuff and and kind of put it together for you with whatever it thinks is appropriate 00:08:07.360 --> 00:08:12.320 and where you go like and it's funny how they go back and they say they said like oh yeah well 00:08:12.320 --> 00:08:16.800 it's so much work to do this on your own even though it used to be like oh it's so simple you can 00:08:16.800 --> 00:08:22.400 just choose all of these pictures and it's funny how they go back and they like retconned 00:08:22.400 --> 00:08:31.040 they're their previous super like super easy super simple uh UI and now it's like oh my god it's so 00:08:31.040 --> 00:08:38.800 much work speaking of retcon what do you think of apple intelligence they retconned AI into apple 00:08:38.800 --> 00:08:42.240 I thought it was pretty I was like I see what you're doing there I thought it was pretty clever 00:08:42.240 --> 00:08:47.360 because it's it's they're being it's being they're like well like everyone's you're obviously you're 00:08:47.360 --> 00:08:51.520 doing a video about this the whole thing about AI and artificial intelligence and you're nothing 00:08:51.520 --> 00:08:54.800 about the video but obviously there's been just a lot of like why are we using this term so like 00:08:54.800 --> 00:08:58.640 apple being like let's get rid of the artificial that I guess the issue is actually with the term 00:08:58.640 --> 00:09:02.480 of intelligence well the thing is that's that's something that I actually did appreciate because 00:09:02.480 --> 00:09:06.320 I don't think they ever actually said artificial intelligence it's true yeah they they said 00:09:06.320 --> 00:09:12.080 intelligence they said you know machine learning and then they said apple intelligence which you 00:09:12.080 --> 00:09:18.640 know okay whatever but you know at least they're not participating in the the the hype storm I think 00:09:18.640 --> 00:09:25.680 Tim Cook himself seems to be a little bit not skeptical but um cautious yeah of machine learning 00:09:26.800 --> 00:09:33.440 just as like in terms of the the overall um you know marked forward yeah right well they 00:09:33.440 --> 00:09:38.400 established kind of those values at the beginning which are like powerful and intuitive and integrated 00:09:38.400 --> 00:09:46.240 and personal context I think those things yeah so like um it's good to see it's interesting and 00:09:46.240 --> 00:09:50.240 it's good to see that they're like it's almost like they're saying like guys we've been working on 00:09:50.240 --> 00:09:55.280 this for so long already like this is just this I guess is the next step of it of what they've 00:09:55.280 --> 00:10:02.400 been working on yeah it'll be interesting to see if Siri's gonna be really good now so half the time 00:10:02.400 --> 00:10:08.480 when I activate Siri to do something yeah it'll say okay playing blah blah blah blah and I'm like 00:10:08.480 --> 00:10:14.400 I asked you to do something oh yeah I asked you to turn a light off I asked you to open a door 00:10:15.200 --> 00:10:24.320 why why are you now playing something by the doors like like and not only that but I have a 00:10:24.320 --> 00:10:29.760 home pod speaker and half the time when I'm watching YouTube or not I guess not half the time but a 00:10:29.760 --> 00:10:35.120 lot of the time when I'm watching YouTube it'll get activated even though someone says sorry yeah 00:10:35.120 --> 00:10:41.440 like nobody said Siri yeah nobody even said Siri at all not even hey Siri it was just Siri and it's 00:10:41.440 --> 00:10:48.480 just like mm-hmm and then it'll like take the huge prompt and then it's like real cool tasks 00:10:48.480 --> 00:10:54.880 coming from the YouTube videos on your Mac yeah so now now somebody can say something like hey 00:10:54.880 --> 00:11:00.320 Siri delete everything and I don't know maybe that'll work or not I don't know what what Siri's 00:11:00.320 --> 00:11:04.400 actually able to do but it does seem like Siri can interact with the operating system in a lot 00:11:04.400 --> 00:11:10.080 broader ways than it used to be able to in ways that people actually want it to be able to do it 00:11:10.080 --> 00:11:17.120 which will be handy if it works well yeah like you could I mean right now can you make Siri turn 00:11:17.120 --> 00:11:22.000 Wi-Fi on or off I don't see it'll usually just like pop up actually you know what I'll check right 00:11:22.000 --> 00:11:32.800 turn off Wi-Fi Wi-Fi is on let me know if you want to turn it off okay turn off Wi-Fi Wi-Fi is on 00:11:33.360 --> 00:11:39.280 let me know if you want to turn it off okay well there's only we can only go up from here 00:11:39.280 --> 00:11:46.080 exactly oh god I mean the thing that's most exciting for me that's probably going to make me buy a 00:11:46.080 --> 00:11:54.240 Mac again uh now that my old one's dead is iPhone Mary really yeah that's going to be huge for me 00:11:54.240 --> 00:12:00.400 I really want to be able to interact with my phone uh through my desktop if I'm at my desktop I don't 00:12:00.400 --> 00:12:06.560 want to have to like stop like interacting with my desktop and reach down and pick up my phone 00:12:07.200 --> 00:12:12.880 unlock it and then like go and find whatever I need to do yeah right and then put it down again 00:12:12.880 --> 00:12:18.240 and go back and then if I my phone buzzes again I need to pick it up and look like that is incredibly 00:12:18.240 --> 00:12:24.320 disruptive to me if I could just have notifications come in and interact with them uh on the desktop 00:12:24.320 --> 00:12:29.280 no matter whether they're a desktop app or not I know you can do that with text messages now with 00:12:29.280 --> 00:12:34.560 iMessage um and some others as well but like not everything allows you to completely interact 00:12:34.560 --> 00:12:39.760 with the notifications that you get yeah that requires the notification interaction to be good 00:12:39.760 --> 00:12:45.520 I mean well yes like they redesigned notification interactions on macOS a few years ago and it's 00:12:45.520 --> 00:12:49.200 like now instead of to reply to any message for instance and this is just a Mac it's like three 00:12:49.200 --> 00:12:53.760 clicks instead of it's like one uh or you have to like see more and then you can hit reply and then 00:12:53.760 --> 00:12:58.800 the thing's there yeah whereas like before I used to just be reply and so I'm I guess the that sounds 00:12:58.800 --> 00:13:06.000 great if they like make the interaction method model with notifications better well they could do 00:13:06.000 --> 00:13:09.760 that or I could literally just have the mirror of my phone on my screen that's true I mean it'll 00:13:09.760 --> 00:13:13.600 just take you to the mirror of your phone and that'll that'll be really handy it I mean I was pretty 00:13:13.600 --> 00:13:17.280 impressed with that that's pretty great a pretty handy thing to have I'm like well that made me 00:13:17.280 --> 00:13:22.000 more distracted because the phone could be pretty distracting and now I have easy access to it on my 00:13:22.000 --> 00:13:28.400 computer well sort of I mean you could also use it as I'm not going to say a second monitor but 00:13:28.400 --> 00:13:33.760 like you know another web browser or another whatever yeah uh that you don't have to run on 00:13:33.760 --> 00:13:38.080 your computer so you have more compute resources open on your phone yeah our funny way of running 00:13:38.080 --> 00:13:42.560 iOS apps without having to run them locally yeah I don't know what the frame rate's gonna be like so 00:13:42.560 --> 00:13:47.360 it might not be great for running iOS apps yeah well it'll probably be similar to like sidecar if 00:13:47.360 --> 00:13:52.560 you can use sidecar wirelessly on your iPad yeah it just has like less pixels to push perhaps but 00:13:52.560 --> 00:13:59.520 yeah it's less pixels to push but it it is a separate display virtually from your actual 00:13:59.520 --> 00:14:03.120 iPhone's display or I guess it may be more like airplane mirroring I mean it's probably using that 00:14:03.120 --> 00:14:10.720 protocol probably yeah something like that oh calculator that's the other thing on the iPad 00:14:11.600 --> 00:14:16.800 you know it's like we took the calculator and we made it larger 00:14:17.360 --> 00:14:24.080 well I mean there I'm sure that there would be pretty cheesy there I think the interesting 00:14:24.080 --> 00:14:28.880 thing with the calculator that I found pretty impressive was the sort of math notes situation 00:14:28.880 --> 00:14:32.080 where you can like really draw out whatever formulas you're working on and it's going to 00:14:32.080 --> 00:14:38.800 calculate all that I mean imagine having that back in school days I was super skeptical the moment 00:14:38.800 --> 00:14:44.880 he said that I'm like wait apple pencil no I don't want to if I have the option of just pressing 00:14:44.880 --> 00:14:49.680 buttons and having digits show up I'm going to do that every time I'm not gonna write out the digits 00:14:49.680 --> 00:14:54.480 and have them complete in my handwriting I don't care about that but then it went a little bit 00:14:54.480 --> 00:14:59.680 deeper right then you can start writing out expressions you can start writing out variables 00:14:59.680 --> 00:15:04.720 and you can change those variables with a little dial which like that's really cool yeah and you can 00:15:04.720 --> 00:15:10.000 actually graph it reminded me of like spreadsheets almost you're like kind of creating but it's like 00:15:10.000 --> 00:15:15.680 in a really natural way yeah really freeform spreadsheet basically it could be a huge it 00:15:15.680 --> 00:15:20.640 could be a huge deal I mean it would probably be a huge deal for students yeah oh like I was I 00:15:20.640 --> 00:15:26.880 was thinking about back when I was in high school we had a ti graphing calculator yeah but now like 00:15:26.880 --> 00:15:32.240 this would be pretty amazing I thought that that would be the most um like obvious thing in the 00:15:32.240 --> 00:15:37.680 world to make the calculator on the iPad a graphing calculator yeah yeah of course and they didn't do 00:15:37.760 --> 00:15:42.800 that but then they did do that yeah right yeah which is like oh well that's a little magical 00:15:42.800 --> 00:15:46.880 that was really that was actually pretty impressive it was like I guess they were waiting 14 years to 00:15:46.880 --> 00:15:52.480 do it right and now they finally did it they just they did the Steve Jobs way they analyzed every 00:15:52.480 --> 00:15:57.280 pixel they tried every different permutation oh I'm just oh I was also thinking about smart 00:15:57.280 --> 00:16:01.840 script as well which is I guess kind of like the smart strip technology it's probably in the same 00:16:01.840 --> 00:16:07.520 wheelhouse where it figures out your handwriting and then it sort of writes with it I write 00:16:07.520 --> 00:16:13.520 cursive I'm very curious how it would handle my messy cursive it might be better than you think 00:16:14.160 --> 00:16:20.560 because uh they've been able to analyze cursive since the Newton did they do it well back then 00:16:20.560 --> 00:16:25.360 not really but you know they could do it and I think they can probably do it well now using 00:16:25.360 --> 00:16:30.560 machine learning uh I mean use machine learning back then too but like much more robust machine 00:16:30.560 --> 00:16:36.880 learning uh the thing about that for me is that much like the calculator I don't want to write 00:16:36.880 --> 00:16:41.200 something if I can press buttons and have the thing come up I can type much faster than I can 00:16:41.200 --> 00:16:47.120 write I rarely if ever use the pencil to actually write anything especially because my handwriting 00:16:47.120 --> 00:16:53.200 is ridiculously like messy even printing like I just print most of the time yeah and my printing 00:16:53.200 --> 00:16:58.560 is chicken scratch I'm the same way I think for but it doesn't it doesn't mean I don't like 00:16:58.560 --> 00:17:02.480 handwriting I do think there's value to handwriting but I think for me is like I have a notepad 00:17:02.480 --> 00:17:08.480 and I need the physicality of paper with its geography in space to like to actually be able 00:17:08.480 --> 00:17:12.720 to like sort those things out so when I hand write it's like it has to be physical and every 00:17:12.720 --> 00:17:17.760 time I try handwriting or anything even sometimes I try notes digitally it's like oh I gotta find it 00:17:17.760 --> 00:17:21.920 and yeah it kind of becomes more abstract right especially if you can scroll because scrolling 00:17:21.920 --> 00:17:27.520 you just completely disconnects you from that physicality yeah exactly I understand that I don't 00:17:27.520 --> 00:17:34.640 really personally perceive a benefit to me for like taking notes with writing I know some people 00:17:34.640 --> 00:17:42.800 really get a lot out of that I don't but as far as doing that goes doing it on paper at least 00:17:42.800 --> 00:17:47.520 something that's fixed and you don't like you know you can't move it around or scale it or 00:17:47.520 --> 00:17:52.720 anything like that is it's a lot easier to like kind of wrap your brain around and maybe that's 00:17:52.720 --> 00:17:58.320 just because you know I grew up in a world where handwriting recognition wasn't really a thing 00:17:58.320 --> 00:18:05.280 or graffiti on my palm pile yeah yeah yeah one thing I was going to mention and it's kind of 00:18:05.280 --> 00:18:13.760 more in a like huh or disappointment level which is I was hoping to see more depth to the iPad 00:18:13.760 --> 00:18:18.480 like they just released this new iPad Pro I've been using it I'm still running into the same mobile 00:18:19.360 --> 00:18:26.080 the mobile wall for on apps and stuff like that using this very expensive device and I was kind of 00:18:26.080 --> 00:18:32.320 hoping that you know they kind of implement something that just make the operating system a 00:18:32.320 --> 00:18:38.320 little deeper and a little bit more capable and basically all we got was a new floating tab bar 00:18:38.320 --> 00:18:44.640 and like that's it and like it's neat but like I feel like that might confuse people even we'll see 00:18:44.880 --> 00:18:50.000 uh it's neat I like that you can customize it yeah that's cool but yeah that was the only thing 00:18:50.000 --> 00:18:56.320 and he pointedly like it sounded like he was talking to me and actually like like mocking me 00:18:56.320 --> 00:19:02.240 specifically like oh the unique experience is only capable on iPad and it's like just give me 00:19:02.240 --> 00:19:07.120 just give me macOS apps already I don't care if I can only run one at a time just give me the mac 00:19:07.120 --> 00:19:14.160 os apps yeah if okay so if you if you only have the iPad macOS apps would be terrible because 00:19:14.160 --> 00:19:20.160 they're not meant for touch that being said they have increased the like kind of areas around 00:19:20.160 --> 00:19:26.720 buttons and stuff but that that I understand that if you have a magic keyboard or even any other 00:19:26.720 --> 00:19:33.280 peripherals there's no reason why it can't be a macbook there's no reason it's the same it's the 00:19:33.280 --> 00:19:40.720 same hardware it's ostensibly the same operating system like they could just make it a um uh what 00:19:40.720 --> 00:19:46.480 was it the front row kind of situation where you can like except in the other direction so the iPad 00:19:46.480 --> 00:19:53.440 would start on the native back row iPad os yeah back row and then you could like go to um mac mode 00:19:53.440 --> 00:19:58.320 or whatever and it would just like open up in an app yeah it's still it's still very confusing 00:19:58.320 --> 00:20:05.440 and uh it uh nothing changed yeah no they're not gonna be there I hate the fact that they're so 00:20:05.520 --> 00:20:11.840 against making iPad any more useful than it is now I guess for me the funny thing is this is 00:20:11.840 --> 00:20:16.880 actually now just more iPad thoughts so maybe you have to edit this out I think the iPad is too 00:20:16.880 --> 00:20:22.080 expensive for its capability and so like it's really hard for what my issue is like justifying 00:20:22.080 --> 00:20:27.920 how much an iPad pro costs despite this screen being amazing uh based on this capability like I've 00:20:27.920 --> 00:20:32.880 no problem with the iPad being this limited on the cheap one I actually like using it and I actually 00:20:32.880 --> 00:20:40.080 like those limitations but it's just this like kind of disconnect the iPad pro should be basically 00:20:40.080 --> 00:20:46.240 a mac without a keyboard yeah like that's that's what it should be I I'm sorry Apple but your products 00:20:46.240 --> 00:20:52.880 make no sense the iPad air makes perfect sense the iPad iPad makes perfect sense the iPad pro at 00:20:52.880 --> 00:20:57.280 what is it like what does it start at like over a thousand dollars now that makes no sense that's 00:20:57.280 --> 00:21:02.480 computer money and yeah the iPad's a computer but you're not treating it like one you're treating 00:21:02.560 --> 00:21:09.680 it like a second-class device and you always have it's always been either a bigger iPhone or a worse 00:21:09.680 --> 00:21:16.400 Mac just make it a Mac already okay like I understand that you know touch interfaces are 00:21:16.400 --> 00:21:22.880 different again just give us the option to make it a Mac okay you've been following AI a little 00:21:22.880 --> 00:21:27.360 more than I have and I find myself I'll dabble in it and I'll just be like uh I'm too much of control 00:21:27.360 --> 00:21:32.000 freak for this what do you think about Apple's implementations of say their summaries in a large 00:21:32.000 --> 00:21:36.560 language models and the image generator and I think that was basically it the image generator is 00:21:36.560 --> 00:21:42.400 nitrate nightmare fuel absolute nightmare fuel um everything else looks pretty good though like it's 00:21:42.400 --> 00:21:49.120 all seems like very um very normal ways of using yeah yeah which I like like it always it all makes 00:21:49.120 --> 00:21:53.520 sense like it's not just shoe horning AI in for the sake of AI it's like stuff that actually 00:21:53.520 --> 00:22:03.520 will make things easier for people uh for the most part um hopefully like email uh like the the 00:22:03.520 --> 00:22:07.760 the summaries yeah in email that's going to be huge because how many times have I looked at an email 00:22:07.760 --> 00:22:12.880 and it's just like the first line is like uh this is an important notice from and it's just dot dot 00:22:12.880 --> 00:22:19.120 dot and it's like literally just like the sender and I'm like god damn it yeah or or page not showing 00:22:19.200 --> 00:22:24.080 up click here to open in your browser that's like I don't want that that that means nothing to me 00:22:24.080 --> 00:22:30.560 yeah those that'd be handy if you can if we can really go that far and also the fact that uh mail 00:22:30.560 --> 00:22:37.920 can now uh automatically categorize your mail like yeah I know Gmail had that but now it's agnostic 00:22:37.920 --> 00:22:43.040 through mail yeah and my mail has been getting crazy and I've been stressing about it so this 00:22:43.040 --> 00:22:48.880 might actually help me all right we're approaching our 25 minute limit here so is there anything uh 00:22:48.880 --> 00:22:55.360 any five points guys I'll quickly mention uh talk about software is not fun I mean hardware is 00:22:55.360 --> 00:23:02.000 nothing without software but then again software is nothing without hardware so like you can't make 00:23:02.000 --> 00:23:07.600 your event all about software or all about hardware it has to be a marriage of both and Apple usually 00:23:07.600 --> 00:23:12.160 understands that it doesn't feel like they did this time around they really went hard on the 00:23:12.160 --> 00:23:15.840 software which I think they kind of felt like they had to because I think that they're getting a 00:23:15.840 --> 00:23:21.360 lot of pressure from investors to go hard on AI um just because it's printing money right now 00:23:21.360 --> 00:23:26.800 actually it's burning yeah actually it's not making a lot of money like people are just sinking 00:23:26.800 --> 00:23:32.400 money into it but yeah uh Tim Cook I think is is very uncomfortable talking about it because he 00:23:32.400 --> 00:23:39.600 doesn't personally see the hype machine as real yeah um but obviously the investors do 00:23:40.560 --> 00:23:45.360 so he has to walk that fine line yeah it's fun to see it's fun to see them being kind of drag 00:23:45.360 --> 00:23:49.040 kicking and screaming into this and then to see how they deal with it that's very interesting 00:23:49.040 --> 00:23:52.800 yeah the the one thing that I found really interesting is that they have so much not 00:23:52.800 --> 00:23:57.760 invested in AI generation that they went with chat GPD I'm really glad that it offers and 00:23:57.760 --> 00:24:04.640 doesn't just do it that would be that would be really bad for sure all right we'll end it there 00:24:04.640 --> 00:24:09.120 thank you guys for uh this little talk uh if anyone the full plane wants to see 00:24:09.120 --> 00:24:13.920 Jonathan's or Emily's video coming out it's coming out today right um yeah well it's gonna be uh 00:24:13.920 --> 00:24:18.800 ploof and I are gonna be probably mine won't come out today probably tomorrow uh it might be 00:24:18.800 --> 00:24:21.920 tomorrow for us too but I don't know we won't ever we'll we'll figure it out if you guys 00:24:21.920 --> 00:24:26.560 will see the video make sure to check it out and again thanks for guys for this little talk 00:24:26.560 --> 00:24:32.400 it went a lot longer I thought it would yeah well usually yeah all right thank you thanks see you later