1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:04,480 Welcome Emily and Jonathan, WWC just wrapped up and I just want your thoughts. What do you 2 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:09,920 guys think of the event? I mean for me it seemed like it was a much longer event than last time 3 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:14,880 and a lot more content in it like it was stuffed to the brim like they actually had to cut some 4 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:19,200 things it seemed like like some things that were actually kind of interesting like resizing icons 5 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:25,280 on iOS rcs support so like the new the rich messaging system that's like kind of universal 6 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:28,880 they cut art oh so they are supporting rcs yeah so they just didn't talk about it 7 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:35,680 they they mentioned it briefly towards the end with all the yeah yeah yeah with the summary 8 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:39,600 but they didn't show it and they also didn't show like resizing icons so you can actually make an 9 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:43,760 icon bigger yeah you can make icons bigger you can move them wherever you want you can put them on 10 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:51,040 the grid just like I'm like I'm right no I missed a lot wow did you did you come in late no I mean 11 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:58,080 no I missed the I did miss the right at the beginning the promo the first part of the promo 12 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:03,760 the apple tv plus stuff but you know there's like all the I uh it's hard to write notes and then 13 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:08,480 what look at the like little bento box yeah so it's all in a bento box I gotta look at those 14 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:13,600 bento box before I write I write I guess yeah I'm glad rcs is there because I literally wrote 15 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:19,280 where is rcs yeah tell me I think a bigger thing to mention yeah you would think so but like he 16 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:26,960 literally just spent like 10 words saying oh and also you can resize icons and we have rcs support 17 00:01:26,960 --> 00:01:33,360 see this kind of comes down to a fundamental of the way apple events have been going now 18 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:39,360 which is these kind of really fast paced uh don't look away or or blink because you're gonna miss 19 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:47,680 something infomercials and I really miss the live shows when they would like be on stage and like 20 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:52,080 have to demo things live to show that it actually works they don't have to prove that anything 21 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:56,160 works now you know the videos work like when they do like that ipad or at least they did a 22 00:01:56,720 --> 00:02:01,840 month and a bit ago the videos work for something like that and maybe in between events but for 23 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:10,320 something as like fundamental and as important as w w dc I feel like a live stage show uh is what I 24 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:18,560 I miss and want back because it also requires a bit of even more focus yeah I mean once upon a time 25 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:26,160 like they even famously the original iphone reveal that was hacked up so badly like the the 26 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:31,200 iphone just didn't work like half the time it would either freeze up or reboot and it was actually a 27 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:35,440 miracle that it yeah worked at all yeah and they had to hack it so that it had full signal strength 28 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:39,760 but like now they don't really need to do any of that it's all mocked up yeah so like all the 29 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:43,680 theory prompts and all the things that are happening on screen that could be happening 30 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:49,520 anywhere it's written in a script literally just be it's a scripted yeah it could literally just be 31 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:55,040 something that somebody mocked up in um well I guess final cut oh yeah yeah and so it's like 32 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:58,480 because the other big question coming up especially we haven't really introduced the 33 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:03,600 ass stuff but the big question is like how does this actually work in the real world and like 34 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:07,840 I always am thinking about like where are the where are you going to find the walls of limitations 35 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:12,720 that are going to be really frustrating when they come up and I don't know it's it's yeah 36 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:16,080 that is a good point especially for something like this I feel like a live demo 37 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:23,440 is important yeah yeah and like I understand in some cases like say the vision pro it's really 38 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:30,400 difficult to get that across right yeah like the vision pro you can't really film that in a way that 39 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:39,680 it makes any sense to see so they have to mock that up but with like an iphone thing not really 40 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:44,320 I mean even with the vision pro announcement back back earlier this year I or even last year I thought 41 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:50,480 it should have been done uh that should also have been done live because like the iphone thing 42 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:54,480 it like they really had to push to make sure everything like to hopefully everything works 43 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:58,800 and like really be specific about what they're demoing there's I don't know there's like a 44 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:05,360 discipline that comes with it that um I worry we're losing well I mean given the length of it 45 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:09,360 it's like an hour and 45 minutes or something like that or an hour and a half but like one of the 46 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:16,720 things that I found really lacking was they didn't really talk about hardware at all no no yeah like 47 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:21,920 I was kind of expecting yeah like I was kind of expecting them to talk about something like oh 48 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:26,880 you'll be able to take advantage of this and more with our upcoming m4 pro or whatever you know we'll 49 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:31,760 talk about that in the later presentation or something like that right but instead it's just 50 00:04:31,840 --> 00:04:40,640 like your ipad your iphone your mac and it's like okay but what if my ipad is on the cusp of being 51 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:50,800 obsoleted which it is it's the it's the the final pre uh m1 ipad oh the a812z one yeah is it like 52 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:57,840 yeah what is it yeah well let's see well they the one example was I think where they were talking 53 00:04:57,840 --> 00:05:03,280 about apple intelligence it seems like the on-device processing will work on m1's and newer and then 54 00:05:03,280 --> 00:05:10,000 it seems like a17 and that's the only a chip that'll support all the on all of that stuff so I'm 55 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:15,440 still it's still a little I gotta like look into the pages to see kind of where the limitations lie 56 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:19,840 yeah um and then obviously then that they did talk a little bit about hardware which shows 57 00:05:19,840 --> 00:05:23,920 I'm wondering if you're curious about how they created their own little apple silicon servers 58 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:30,800 for the uh what do they call it privacy server website privacy scanning was like private cloud 59 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:37,360 compute yes that's the one um I am a little bit interested in how they might have done that but 60 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:44,640 I'm not sure that's strictly speaking what they're doing I mean it might be maybe we'll have more 61 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:53,440 x serves at some point with like a bunch of m5 chips in them you know 256 yeah you're dreaming 62 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:58,880 yeah no apple doesn't care about that anymore but you know it's it's something you can think about 63 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:04,240 oh man there's so much to talk about with privacy cloud uh a private cloud it's it's basically 64 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:13,200 Windows 11 recall if you think about it yeah I except like so like okay private cloud compute 65 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:17,040 not specifically but all the all the ai features they're talking about and I don't want to get too 66 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:20,960 into the ai right now because this is going to dominate the conversation but like that's doing 67 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:25,920 all the same stuff that Windows 11 recall does except they're not specifically saying they're 68 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:31,920 taking screenshots um so like you can say hey uh show me that picture of this person who did that 69 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:38,640 last week and it'll do it uh or hey what restaurant did so-and-so uh suggest to me a few days ago and 70 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:44,560 it'll do that like the same stuff right but apple probably isn't going to get as much scrutiny 71 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:49,440 over it because I guess they have a better track record for privacy I mean some of those things it 72 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:53,920 feels like we're kind of already in there but they just were there was like no place to like 73 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:59,280 unify it so if you for instance you use the example of like finding a picture of so-and-so 74 00:06:59,280 --> 00:07:03,840 wearing a shirt like you could already look for pictures of a person because they're already doing 75 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:10,240 on device facial recognition and then in the example of like oh find the calendar event that 76 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:15,280 somebody or calendar somebody that you know the appointment somebody had made in a text message 77 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:19,920 like if you look in messages and someone says hey can we do something at 4 p.m on Thursday like it'll 78 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:24,960 underline 4 p.m Thursday kind of ready for you to make an event so like that stuff was like it 79 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:29,840 feels like the ground work was already kind of laid for this stuff and then now they're finally like 80 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:34,000 creating a system to put it all together I'm just still curious how that's all 81 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:39,200 going to work but it was like already there yeah I guess so like a lot of it that's another thing 82 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:44,320 about the AI stuff is a lot of it is stuff we've already had like oh hey proofreading that's grammar 83 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:53,200 check which we had in the 90s yes the automatic memories the the slideshows and stuff yeah it's 84 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:58,240 like we had that now it's better you can you can be more specific about it now you can tell 85 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:02,000 it what you want to see but like before it would just do that automatically it would just like 86 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:07,360 grab all the stuff and and kind of put it together for you with whatever it thinks is appropriate 87 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:12,320 and where you go like and it's funny how they go back and they say they said like oh yeah well 88 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:16,800 it's so much work to do this on your own even though it used to be like oh it's so simple you can 89 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:22,400 just choose all of these pictures and it's funny how they go back and they like retconned 90 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:31,040 they're their previous super like super easy super simple uh UI and now it's like oh my god it's so 91 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:38,800 much work speaking of retcon what do you think of apple intelligence they retconned AI into apple 92 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:42,240 I thought it was pretty I was like I see what you're doing there I thought it was pretty clever 93 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:47,360 because it's it's they're being it's being they're like well like everyone's you're obviously you're 94 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:51,520 doing a video about this the whole thing about AI and artificial intelligence and you're nothing 95 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:54,800 about the video but obviously there's been just a lot of like why are we using this term so like 96 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:58,640 apple being like let's get rid of the artificial that I guess the issue is actually with the term 97 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:02,480 of intelligence well the thing is that's that's something that I actually did appreciate because 98 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:06,320 I don't think they ever actually said artificial intelligence it's true yeah they they said 99 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:12,080 intelligence they said you know machine learning and then they said apple intelligence which you 100 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:18,640 know okay whatever but you know at least they're not participating in the the the hype storm I think 101 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:25,680 Tim Cook himself seems to be a little bit not skeptical but um cautious yeah of machine learning 102 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:33,440 just as like in terms of the the overall um you know marked forward yeah right well they 103 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:38,400 established kind of those values at the beginning which are like powerful and intuitive and integrated 104 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:46,240 and personal context I think those things yeah so like um it's good to see it's interesting and 105 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:50,240 it's good to see that they're like it's almost like they're saying like guys we've been working on 106 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:55,280 this for so long already like this is just this I guess is the next step of it of what they've 107 00:09:55,280 --> 00:10:02,400 been working on yeah it'll be interesting to see if Siri's gonna be really good now so half the time 108 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:08,480 when I activate Siri to do something yeah it'll say okay playing blah blah blah blah and I'm like 109 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:14,400 I asked you to do something oh yeah I asked you to turn a light off I asked you to open a door 110 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:24,320 why why are you now playing something by the doors like like and not only that but I have a 111 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:29,760 home pod speaker and half the time when I'm watching YouTube or not I guess not half the time but a 112 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:35,120 lot of the time when I'm watching YouTube it'll get activated even though someone says sorry yeah 113 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:41,440 like nobody said Siri yeah nobody even said Siri at all not even hey Siri it was just Siri and it's 114 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:48,480 just like mm-hmm and then it'll like take the huge prompt and then it's like real cool tasks 115 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:54,880 coming from the YouTube videos on your Mac yeah so now now somebody can say something like hey 116 00:10:54,880 --> 00:11:00,320 Siri delete everything and I don't know maybe that'll work or not I don't know what what Siri's 117 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:04,400 actually able to do but it does seem like Siri can interact with the operating system in a lot 118 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:10,080 broader ways than it used to be able to in ways that people actually want it to be able to do it 119 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:17,120 which will be handy if it works well yeah like you could I mean right now can you make Siri turn 120 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:22,000 Wi-Fi on or off I don't see it'll usually just like pop up actually you know what I'll check right 121 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:32,800 turn off Wi-Fi Wi-Fi is on let me know if you want to turn it off okay turn off Wi-Fi Wi-Fi is on 122 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:39,280 let me know if you want to turn it off okay well there's only we can only go up from here 123 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:46,080 exactly oh god I mean the thing that's most exciting for me that's probably going to make me buy a 124 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:54,240 Mac again uh now that my old one's dead is iPhone Mary really yeah that's going to be huge for me 125 00:11:54,240 --> 00:12:00,400 I really want to be able to interact with my phone uh through my desktop if I'm at my desktop I don't 126 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:06,560 want to have to like stop like interacting with my desktop and reach down and pick up my phone 127 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:12,880 unlock it and then like go and find whatever I need to do yeah right and then put it down again 128 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:18,240 and go back and then if I my phone buzzes again I need to pick it up and look like that is incredibly 129 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:24,320 disruptive to me if I could just have notifications come in and interact with them uh on the desktop 130 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:29,280 no matter whether they're a desktop app or not I know you can do that with text messages now with 131 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:34,560 iMessage um and some others as well but like not everything allows you to completely interact 132 00:12:34,560 --> 00:12:39,760 with the notifications that you get yeah that requires the notification interaction to be good 133 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:45,520 I mean well yes like they redesigned notification interactions on macOS a few years ago and it's 134 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:49,200 like now instead of to reply to any message for instance and this is just a Mac it's like three 135 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:53,760 clicks instead of it's like one uh or you have to like see more and then you can hit reply and then 136 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:58,800 the thing's there yeah whereas like before I used to just be reply and so I'm I guess the that sounds 137 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:06,000 great if they like make the interaction method model with notifications better well they could do 138 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:09,760 that or I could literally just have the mirror of my phone on my screen that's true I mean it'll 139 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:13,600 just take you to the mirror of your phone and that'll that'll be really handy it I mean I was pretty 140 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:17,280 impressed with that that's pretty great a pretty handy thing to have I'm like well that made me 141 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:22,000 more distracted because the phone could be pretty distracting and now I have easy access to it on my 142 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:28,400 computer well sort of I mean you could also use it as I'm not going to say a second monitor but 143 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:33,760 like you know another web browser or another whatever yeah uh that you don't have to run on 144 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:38,080 your computer so you have more compute resources open on your phone yeah our funny way of running 145 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:42,560 iOS apps without having to run them locally yeah I don't know what the frame rate's gonna be like so 146 00:13:42,560 --> 00:13:47,360 it might not be great for running iOS apps yeah well it'll probably be similar to like sidecar if 147 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:52,560 you can use sidecar wirelessly on your iPad yeah it just has like less pixels to push perhaps but 148 00:13:52,560 --> 00:13:59,520 yeah it's less pixels to push but it it is a separate display virtually from your actual 149 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:03,120 iPhone's display or I guess it may be more like airplane mirroring I mean it's probably using that 150 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:10,720 protocol probably yeah something like that oh calculator that's the other thing on the iPad 151 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:16,800 you know it's like we took the calculator and we made it larger 152 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:24,080 well I mean there I'm sure that there would be pretty cheesy there I think the interesting 153 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:28,880 thing with the calculator that I found pretty impressive was the sort of math notes situation 154 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:32,080 where you can like really draw out whatever formulas you're working on and it's going to 155 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:38,800 calculate all that I mean imagine having that back in school days I was super skeptical the moment 156 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:44,880 he said that I'm like wait apple pencil no I don't want to if I have the option of just pressing 157 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:49,680 buttons and having digits show up I'm going to do that every time I'm not gonna write out the digits 158 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:54,480 and have them complete in my handwriting I don't care about that but then it went a little bit 159 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:59,680 deeper right then you can start writing out expressions you can start writing out variables 160 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:04,720 and you can change those variables with a little dial which like that's really cool yeah and you can 161 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:10,000 actually graph it reminded me of like spreadsheets almost you're like kind of creating but it's like 162 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:15,680 in a really natural way yeah really freeform spreadsheet basically it could be a huge it 163 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:20,640 could be a huge deal I mean it would probably be a huge deal for students yeah oh like I was I 164 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:26,880 was thinking about back when I was in high school we had a ti graphing calculator yeah but now like 165 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:32,240 this would be pretty amazing I thought that that would be the most um like obvious thing in the 166 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:37,680 world to make the calculator on the iPad a graphing calculator yeah yeah of course and they didn't do 167 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:42,800 that but then they did do that yeah right yeah which is like oh well that's a little magical 168 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:46,880 that was really that was actually pretty impressive it was like I guess they were waiting 14 years to 169 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:52,480 do it right and now they finally did it they just they did the Steve Jobs way they analyzed every 170 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:57,280 pixel they tried every different permutation oh I'm just oh I was also thinking about smart 171 00:15:57,280 --> 00:16:01,840 script as well which is I guess kind of like the smart strip technology it's probably in the same 172 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:07,520 wheelhouse where it figures out your handwriting and then it sort of writes with it I write 173 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:13,520 cursive I'm very curious how it would handle my messy cursive it might be better than you think 174 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:20,560 because uh they've been able to analyze cursive since the Newton did they do it well back then 175 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:25,360 not really but you know they could do it and I think they can probably do it well now using 176 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:30,560 machine learning uh I mean use machine learning back then too but like much more robust machine 177 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:36,880 learning uh the thing about that for me is that much like the calculator I don't want to write 178 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:41,200 something if I can press buttons and have the thing come up I can type much faster than I can 179 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:47,120 write I rarely if ever use the pencil to actually write anything especially because my handwriting 180 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:53,200 is ridiculously like messy even printing like I just print most of the time yeah and my printing 181 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:58,560 is chicken scratch I'm the same way I think for but it doesn't it doesn't mean I don't like 182 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:02,480 handwriting I do think there's value to handwriting but I think for me is like I have a notepad 183 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:08,480 and I need the physicality of paper with its geography in space to like to actually be able 184 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:12,720 to like sort those things out so when I hand write it's like it has to be physical and every 185 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:17,760 time I try handwriting or anything even sometimes I try notes digitally it's like oh I gotta find it 186 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:21,920 and yeah it kind of becomes more abstract right especially if you can scroll because scrolling 187 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:27,520 you just completely disconnects you from that physicality yeah exactly I understand that I don't 188 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:34,640 really personally perceive a benefit to me for like taking notes with writing I know some people 189 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:42,800 really get a lot out of that I don't but as far as doing that goes doing it on paper at least 190 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:47,520 something that's fixed and you don't like you know you can't move it around or scale it or 191 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:52,720 anything like that is it's a lot easier to like kind of wrap your brain around and maybe that's 192 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:58,320 just because you know I grew up in a world where handwriting recognition wasn't really a thing 193 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:05,280 or graffiti on my palm pile yeah yeah yeah one thing I was going to mention and it's kind of 194 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:13,760 more in a like huh or disappointment level which is I was hoping to see more depth to the iPad 195 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:18,480 like they just released this new iPad Pro I've been using it I'm still running into the same mobile 196 00:18:19,360 --> 00:18:26,080 the mobile wall for on apps and stuff like that using this very expensive device and I was kind of 197 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:32,320 hoping that you know they kind of implement something that just make the operating system a 198 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:38,320 little deeper and a little bit more capable and basically all we got was a new floating tab bar 199 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:44,640 and like that's it and like it's neat but like I feel like that might confuse people even we'll see 200 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:50,000 uh it's neat I like that you can customize it yeah that's cool but yeah that was the only thing 201 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:56,320 and he pointedly like it sounded like he was talking to me and actually like like mocking me 202 00:18:56,320 --> 00:19:02,240 specifically like oh the unique experience is only capable on iPad and it's like just give me 203 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:07,120 just give me macOS apps already I don't care if I can only run one at a time just give me the mac 204 00:19:07,120 --> 00:19:14,160 os apps yeah if okay so if you if you only have the iPad macOS apps would be terrible because 205 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:20,160 they're not meant for touch that being said they have increased the like kind of areas around 206 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:26,720 buttons and stuff but that that I understand that if you have a magic keyboard or even any other 207 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:33,280 peripherals there's no reason why it can't be a macbook there's no reason it's the same it's the 208 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:40,720 same hardware it's ostensibly the same operating system like they could just make it a um uh what 209 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:46,480 was it the front row kind of situation where you can like except in the other direction so the iPad 210 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:53,440 would start on the native back row iPad os yeah back row and then you could like go to um mac mode 211 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:58,320 or whatever and it would just like open up in an app yeah it's still it's still very confusing 212 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:05,440 and uh it uh nothing changed yeah no they're not gonna be there I hate the fact that they're so 213 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:11,840 against making iPad any more useful than it is now I guess for me the funny thing is this is 214 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:16,880 actually now just more iPad thoughts so maybe you have to edit this out I think the iPad is too 215 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:22,080 expensive for its capability and so like it's really hard for what my issue is like justifying 216 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:27,920 how much an iPad pro costs despite this screen being amazing uh based on this capability like I've 217 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:32,880 no problem with the iPad being this limited on the cheap one I actually like using it and I actually 218 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:40,080 like those limitations but it's just this like kind of disconnect the iPad pro should be basically 219 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:46,240 a mac without a keyboard yeah like that's that's what it should be I I'm sorry Apple but your products 220 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:52,880 make no sense the iPad air makes perfect sense the iPad iPad makes perfect sense the iPad pro at 221 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:57,280 what is it like what does it start at like over a thousand dollars now that makes no sense that's 222 00:20:57,280 --> 00:21:02,480 computer money and yeah the iPad's a computer but you're not treating it like one you're treating 223 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:09,680 it like a second-class device and you always have it's always been either a bigger iPhone or a worse 224 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:16,400 Mac just make it a Mac already okay like I understand that you know touch interfaces are 225 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:22,880 different again just give us the option to make it a Mac okay you've been following AI a little 226 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:27,360 more than I have and I find myself I'll dabble in it and I'll just be like uh I'm too much of control 227 00:21:27,360 --> 00:21:32,000 freak for this what do you think about Apple's implementations of say their summaries in a large 228 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:36,560 language models and the image generator and I think that was basically it the image generator is 229 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:42,400 nitrate nightmare fuel absolute nightmare fuel um everything else looks pretty good though like it's 230 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:49,120 all seems like very um very normal ways of using yeah yeah which I like like it always it all makes 231 00:21:49,120 --> 00:21:53,520 sense like it's not just shoe horning AI in for the sake of AI it's like stuff that actually 232 00:21:53,520 --> 00:22:03,520 will make things easier for people uh for the most part um hopefully like email uh like the the 233 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:07,760 the summaries yeah in email that's going to be huge because how many times have I looked at an email 234 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:12,880 and it's just like the first line is like uh this is an important notice from and it's just dot dot 235 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:19,120 dot and it's like literally just like the sender and I'm like god damn it yeah or or page not showing 236 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:24,080 up click here to open in your browser that's like I don't want that that that means nothing to me 237 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:30,560 yeah those that'd be handy if you can if we can really go that far and also the fact that uh mail 238 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:37,920 can now uh automatically categorize your mail like yeah I know Gmail had that but now it's agnostic 239 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:43,040 through mail yeah and my mail has been getting crazy and I've been stressing about it so this 240 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:48,880 might actually help me all right we're approaching our 25 minute limit here so is there anything uh 241 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:55,360 any five points guys I'll quickly mention uh talk about software is not fun I mean hardware is 242 00:22:55,360 --> 00:23:02,000 nothing without software but then again software is nothing without hardware so like you can't make 243 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:07,600 your event all about software or all about hardware it has to be a marriage of both and Apple usually 244 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:12,160 understands that it doesn't feel like they did this time around they really went hard on the 245 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:15,840 software which I think they kind of felt like they had to because I think that they're getting a 246 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:21,360 lot of pressure from investors to go hard on AI um just because it's printing money right now 247 00:23:21,360 --> 00:23:26,800 actually it's burning yeah actually it's not making a lot of money like people are just sinking 248 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:32,400 money into it but yeah uh Tim Cook I think is is very uncomfortable talking about it because he 249 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:39,600 doesn't personally see the hype machine as real yeah um but obviously the investors do 250 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:45,360 so he has to walk that fine line yeah it's fun to see it's fun to see them being kind of drag 251 00:23:45,360 --> 00:23:49,040 kicking and screaming into this and then to see how they deal with it that's very interesting 252 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:52,800 yeah the the one thing that I found really interesting is that they have so much not 253 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:57,760 invested in AI generation that they went with chat GPD I'm really glad that it offers and 254 00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:04,640 doesn't just do it that would be that would be really bad for sure all right we'll end it there 255 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:09,120 thank you guys for uh this little talk uh if anyone the full plane wants to see 256 00:24:09,120 --> 00:24:13,920 Jonathan's or Emily's video coming out it's coming out today right um yeah well it's gonna be uh 257 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:18,800 ploof and I are gonna be probably mine won't come out today probably tomorrow uh it might be 258 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:21,920 tomorrow for us too but I don't know we won't ever we'll we'll figure it out if you guys 259 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:26,560 will see the video make sure to check it out and again thanks for guys for this little talk 260 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:32,400 it went a lot longer I thought it would yeah well usually yeah all right thank you thanks see you later