WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:03.280 Oh, it doesn't like it. Can you jump into the ship? Nope, I'm just stuck. 00:00:03.280 --> 00:00:06.480 Um. Whoa! I call this guy Laser Dick. 00:00:06.480 --> 00:00:09.800 You know why? I've never even seen that warning. 00:00:09.800 --> 00:00:13.920 And crashed. It's been years since we first heard about Starfield 00:00:13.920 --> 00:00:17.520 and in the lead up to the broad release, Gamer's excitement is palpable. 00:00:17.520 --> 00:00:18.520 I mean, look at them. 00:00:20.840 --> 00:00:26.120 Trust me, for socially awkward gamers, that's really, really excited. But will you even be able to run it? 00:00:26.120 --> 00:00:31.400 Now, obviously Bethesda publishes minimum and recommended specs for the game. 00:00:31.400 --> 00:00:34.640 So, yes you will, but what they don't tell you 00:00:34.640 --> 00:00:38.080 is what kind of resolution and what kind of details you're gonna be running at. 00:00:38.080 --> 00:00:43.040 So we built up three rigs. The minimum rig with a Radeon 5700, 00:00:43.040 --> 00:00:49.680 the recommended rig with an RTX 2080 and, forgive measure, a top of the line machine 00:00:49.680 --> 00:00:53.160 with an RTX 4090 and we are going to be playing 00:00:53.160 --> 00:00:56.200 Starfield! Yeah. 00:00:56.200 --> 00:01:00.680 And we're gonna tell you about our sponsor. We're gonna start with the recommended configuration. 00:01:00.680 --> 00:01:04.640 This is how Bethesda wants the game to be played. 00:01:04.640 --> 00:01:11.080 That is, unless you're on an Xbox, in which case you're gonna be at 4K 30 FPS on the Series X. 00:01:11.080 --> 00:01:14.440 Personally, I think I'd rather turn the resolution down and go for higher frame rate, 00:01:14.440 --> 00:01:19.160 but hey, we're gonna play around with that, all right? On that note, I'm setting up Capture right now 00:01:19.160 --> 00:01:23.480 and what resolution are we targeting here? I'm capturing at 1080, but. 00:01:23.480 --> 00:01:26.520 It doesn't really say the recommended specs, just give the hardware, 00:01:26.520 --> 00:01:30.280 doesn't tell you the resolution target. Oh, okay. I'm gonna capture at 4K 00:01:30.280 --> 00:01:33.960 and then we're just gonna kind of set it to whatever. 00:01:33.960 --> 00:01:35.920 I can sit cross-legged, unlike you. 00:01:39.400 --> 00:01:43.480 You laughing? You laughing, Mr. Flexible Boy? Let's see you touch your toes, smart guy. 00:01:43.480 --> 00:01:48.000 I can't. Is this the screen people hate it so much? 00:01:48.000 --> 00:01:52.880 This is. Oh. I actually don't mind it at all, except for that thing in the corner, 00:01:52.880 --> 00:01:56.240 because you know that's just. Season test! Yeah. 00:01:56.240 --> 00:01:59.440 They're just prepping you like, there's gonna be something here. I like these menus, though. 00:01:59.440 --> 00:02:02.840 I think they look great. Yeah. Looks like pretty much all the stuff 00:02:02.840 --> 00:02:07.200 that I would wanna change. Motion blur's on. Bleh! Bleh! 00:02:07.200 --> 00:02:12.320 Okay, render resolution. Clearly what we're targeting then is about 1440p. 00:02:12.320 --> 00:02:16.720 So let's set it to 100 and then set it to 1440p. 00:02:16.720 --> 00:02:19.400 Wait, everything I'm doing is wrong. 00:02:20.400 --> 00:02:23.840 What we should be doing is running at the recommended settings 00:02:23.840 --> 00:02:27.600 on the recommended computer. But we don't know what they are. Oh. 00:02:27.600 --> 00:02:32.760 It's whatever's in here. We've got a Ryzen 3,600X, 16 gigs of DDR4 memory. 00:02:32.760 --> 00:02:37.840 Not top spec, but a pretty decent kit. A Gen 3 NVMe drive and an RTX 2080. 00:02:37.840 --> 00:02:41.160 And I am gonna let the game tell me how to run it. 00:02:41.160 --> 00:02:44.720 I think if this is the plan, we should evaluate what it sets as the default. 00:02:44.720 --> 00:02:49.280 Yeah. I mean, there's some things in here that I super duper don't agree with. 00:02:49.280 --> 00:02:53.600 I like that we're running at all high. So we're gonna get to see a lot of effects. 00:02:53.600 --> 00:02:55.440 I don't like that. 00:02:56.680 --> 00:02:59.920 Actually, I don't like anything about this. It's all on high. 00:02:59.920 --> 00:03:04.760 So for things like crowd density, I can see why they want the world to feel populated. 00:03:04.760 --> 00:03:08.960 It's gonna make it feel more real. That's probably good. It's supposed to be a game you immerse yourself into. 00:03:08.960 --> 00:03:11.960 Yep. They've cranked up the graphics preset. 00:03:11.960 --> 00:03:15.720 So we've got indirect lighting and high volumetric lighting 00:03:15.720 --> 00:03:19.760 and that kind of cool stuff like that. But if I can't run at my native resolution, 00:03:19.760 --> 00:03:22.880 you can see we're targeting about 1440p here 00:03:22.880 --> 00:03:27.240 with 62% and then upscaling. Do I really want to be wasting cycles 00:03:27.240 --> 00:03:32.160 on post-processing like film grain and motion blur? 00:03:32.160 --> 00:03:35.760 Also, upscaling is just the default behavior 00:03:35.760 --> 00:03:39.680 on top of rendering at a lower resolution scale. 00:03:39.680 --> 00:03:43.600 So this might not look that great. Also, V-Sync on by default. 00:03:43.600 --> 00:03:48.080 Have you played six hours of this game? Did you even sleep last night? 00:03:48.080 --> 00:03:51.960 No, that's just six in the morning. That's six AM. I'm only like an hour and a half in. 00:03:51.960 --> 00:03:56.600 Yeah, that's so much healthier getting up at six in the morning to play video games before work. 00:03:56.600 --> 00:04:00.960 I might have played for around six hours though. Ha ha ha ha. 00:04:00.960 --> 00:04:04.320 Maybe we'll have to try Luke's save and see if there's some interesting stuff later on. 00:04:04.320 --> 00:04:07.960 I'm on Mars. Way to go, Elon. Yeah. Ha ha ha. 00:04:07.960 --> 00:04:11.840 I beat him to it. This looks and feels like crap immediately. 00:04:11.840 --> 00:04:15.760 Oh, the motion. Uh-oh. You guys see that? 00:04:15.760 --> 00:04:19.840 There were some hitches and stutters in our screen capture that were not 00:04:19.840 --> 00:04:24.520 representative of real-world gameplay. So while all the over-the-shoulder footage you guys see 00:04:24.520 --> 00:04:27.600 will be from our gaming session, all the capture that you see will be 00:04:27.600 --> 00:04:32.800 from a separate recording that was made in the studio at exactly the same in-game settings. 00:04:32.800 --> 00:04:36.080 This looks and feels like crap immediately. Oh, the motion blur. 00:04:36.080 --> 00:04:40.480 Is that motion blur that I'm seeing? Yeah, it's motion blur and it's also not running at a very high frame rate. 00:04:40.480 --> 00:04:44.080 Yeah. Are we gonna get frame view or something? Frame view is on the computer. 00:04:44.080 --> 00:04:47.920 We're gonna fire it up. First, I wanna experience it. Sure, yeah, fair enough. But I can tell you right now 00:04:47.920 --> 00:04:51.520 we're running at about 35, maybe 40 FPS, yeah. 00:04:51.520 --> 00:04:55.520 This feels like what I would expect from a console right now. We're managing to get a ton of tearing 00:04:55.520 --> 00:04:59.040 in spite of the fact that V-Sync is on. I love that. You know what? 00:04:59.040 --> 00:05:03.560 To their credit, I'm really not noticing the FSR-ness of it. 00:05:03.560 --> 00:05:09.840 Yeah, yeah, yeah. The render resolution hack is feeling pretty not too hatched together on this. 00:05:09.840 --> 00:05:14.080 If you asked me what resolution this was running at, I would tell you 4K. 00:05:14.080 --> 00:05:17.720 Do you think it helps being outside? No, because outside, 00:05:17.720 --> 00:05:22.240 I can find distant, you know, skinny, slightly diagonal lines. 00:05:22.240 --> 00:05:25.840 Yeah, the poles and stuff. Yeah, pieces of scaffolding and stuff like that. 00:05:25.840 --> 00:05:30.280 And they've, I mean, look at this. They've done a pretty good job of smoothing it out. 00:05:30.280 --> 00:05:33.640 This is also Creation Engine 2, and this is their first time as far as I know 00:05:33.640 --> 00:05:38.440 experimenting with photogrammetry. So some of the objects that they are able to like 00:05:38.440 --> 00:05:41.640 scan with photos are gonna look really good. Yeah. 00:05:41.640 --> 00:05:45.960 I don't think they did it with everything or like sometimes it doesn't feel like they did. 00:05:45.960 --> 00:05:49.920 This is clearly, I tried for about 10 minutes texture. 00:05:49.920 --> 00:05:53.600 Yeah. But some of the stuff is really clean, 00:05:53.600 --> 00:05:58.960 looks really cool. Like obviously they're gonna spend time on a gun box, right? 00:05:58.960 --> 00:06:02.280 That looks really good. Because you're gonna be looking at it fairly closely 00:06:02.280 --> 00:06:06.640 and fairly often, because you're gonna be looting these the whole game. Sometimes you can kind of feel 00:06:06.640 --> 00:06:11.240 that part of the game was designed all like potentially years earlier 00:06:11.240 --> 00:06:14.720 than other parts of the game. I don't know. That makes sense. 00:06:14.760 --> 00:06:18.800 Sorry, I'm just... No, you're good. I'm just trying to poke holes in FSO2 right now. 00:06:18.800 --> 00:06:21.920 I think you should go talk to the blue though. 00:06:21.920 --> 00:06:25.200 We're not actually playing the game, Luke. You do know that, right? No, I know. 00:06:25.200 --> 00:06:29.040 But you're still in the sky. I am busy looking at this. Yeah, but you're gonna see a spaceship coming in 00:06:29.040 --> 00:06:32.640 which you might wanna see. Fine. It's probably up. 00:06:34.240 --> 00:06:37.880 They come from the sky. Usually. You know you're a dick, right? 00:06:37.880 --> 00:06:41.560 Ha ha ha ha. Okay, but how'd that feel overall? 00:06:41.560 --> 00:06:44.920 I wanna adjust my settings. I wanna do it right now. Do that now? 00:06:44.920 --> 00:06:50.440 Yeah, yeah. No, let's fire up frame view first and see if CYFPS is running out. 00:06:50.440 --> 00:06:53.520 34. 34, 36. Man, I'm good. 00:06:53.520 --> 00:06:58.480 That's a boat. Yeah, that's what we said. Okay, first thing that needs to go, 00:06:58.480 --> 00:07:02.320 film grain, motion blur. Shadow quality, eh. 00:07:03.880 --> 00:07:06.400 Eh. Eh. 00:07:07.600 --> 00:07:12.160 Eh. Eh. Sure. We're basically going down to medium. 00:07:12.200 --> 00:07:15.280 Let's lose the V-sync so it doesn't feel quite so laggy. 00:07:15.280 --> 00:07:19.440 Would you up the render resolution scale now that you've dropped that stuff or just take the FPS increase? 00:07:19.440 --> 00:07:22.600 No, I want the FPS. I'm running at 34 FPS. 00:07:22.600 --> 00:07:27.160 I'm not even playing and it looks rough. So yeah, I agree with that. Massive kudos. 00:07:27.160 --> 00:07:31.320 You don't have to restart the game or anything silly like that. You don't even have to click to save it. 00:07:31.320 --> 00:07:34.640 It just works. Oh, wow. 00:07:34.640 --> 00:07:37.840 It looks worse, I think. It does. What's the performance though? 00:07:37.840 --> 00:07:41.480 It feels a little better. It's not much better. Honestly, not that much higher 00:07:41.480 --> 00:07:44.480 but I gotta tell you, I don't really pick up the difference 00:07:44.480 --> 00:07:48.880 in image quality that much. I think I noticed it in the shadows. 00:07:48.880 --> 00:07:53.120 Those look like pretty solidly okay shadows to me. 00:07:53.120 --> 00:07:54.680 I'm not sure if this applied. 00:07:56.400 --> 00:07:59.520 Turn the shadows up, just the shadows. Sure. 00:07:59.520 --> 00:08:03.240 Oh, okay. Yeah, they're softer. Yeah, yeah. Without actually being the one playing it, 00:08:03.240 --> 00:08:08.640 it feels a lot better now but I think there's just motion blur being off. That's just motion blur and V-sync being off. 00:08:08.640 --> 00:08:12.840 It's still running at like 30. 30 FPS, essentially. 00:08:12.840 --> 00:08:16.640 So this is recommended? Yeah. Not minimum. 00:08:16.640 --> 00:08:20.240 Woof. The Series X can do 4K 30. 00:08:20.240 --> 00:08:24.840 Todd Howard is a big advocate of high fidelity. How about the Series X is upscaling. 00:08:24.840 --> 00:08:28.700 This is 4K 30 by that definition. 00:08:28.700 --> 00:08:33.560 Can you not? Oh, it's actually his whole job to do that. 00:08:33.560 --> 00:08:36.840 Yeah, he's a pirate. I call this guy laser dick. You know why? 00:08:38.280 --> 00:08:41.400 They're literally highlighting the enemies with glue markers right now. 00:08:41.400 --> 00:08:43.400 I thought my friends were blue. 00:08:44.400 --> 00:08:51.120 They're gonna die again. Pluse account is gonna skew stats on this mission. 00:08:51.120 --> 00:08:55.920 Man, this one player reloaded this safe like so many times and kept dying. 00:08:55.920 --> 00:08:59.440 I want more frames per second. This is pretty rough. I would be a little disappointed. 00:08:59.440 --> 00:09:04.640 I would be a little disappointed. If I have a 4K display, which is not even that outlandish these days 00:09:04.640 --> 00:09:09.160 for someone who's expecting to play this game, for someone with an RTX 2080, 00:09:09.160 --> 00:09:12.600 I don't think it matters. Fair enough. 00:09:12.600 --> 00:09:16.360 Once you are running at 4K resolution, you are straight up. 00:09:16.360 --> 00:09:20.400 You're in the 30s. Going to be running at 30 something FPS with this card. 00:09:20.400 --> 00:09:24.440 Considering this is their recommended, not their minimum, that's a little concerning for me. 00:09:24.440 --> 00:09:28.520 And it looks me honished. Still good. 00:09:28.520 --> 00:09:32.440 It's fine. But noticeably worse. It's not great, but it's fine. 00:09:32.440 --> 00:09:35.800 Wait, why is dynamic resolution on it? Oh, wow. 00:09:35.800 --> 00:09:39.600 Oh, wait. Whoa. Right, because that was the default. 00:09:39.600 --> 00:09:43.920 Okay, so hold on. Hold on, maybe now. No, because all I was playing around 00:09:43.920 --> 00:09:49.400 with was detail levels. Yep, we are still at 30 something FPS. 00:09:51.440 --> 00:09:55.920 I think it's time for us to drop the res. I don't even think I'm going to try 1440p. 00:09:55.920 --> 00:09:58.920 Really? We weren't even at ultra before. That was high. 00:09:58.920 --> 00:10:03.360 It just toggles dynamic resolution every time you change the preset. 00:10:03.360 --> 00:10:06.680 Okay. All right, v-sync off. That kind of makes sense. 00:10:06.680 --> 00:10:09.760 Motion blur off. Depth of field off. 00:10:09.760 --> 00:10:13.280 Okay. 1080p. Right. 00:10:14.320 --> 00:10:18.840 Really? No. You get borderless full screen 00:10:18.840 --> 00:10:24.120 or you play in a window. Okay, so one of the earliest mods 00:10:24.120 --> 00:10:29.200 that's going to come out is true full screen mod. Remember when I said I was happy with this menu? 00:10:29.200 --> 00:10:33.440 Yeah. Luke, I think what we're about to find out 00:10:33.440 --> 00:10:39.200 is that this game runs like crap. Oh, is that 24? 00:10:39.200 --> 00:10:40.960 You're, you're sub 30 now. 00:10:43.600 --> 00:10:49.280 Holy. Do you know what just happened, you guys? 00:10:49.280 --> 00:10:52.440 I went to 1080p rendering, 00:10:52.440 --> 00:10:58.440 but I turned off FSR. I turned off AMD's sharpening upscaling. 00:10:58.440 --> 00:11:03.440 So before when we were getting 30 frames per second at 4K, 00:11:03.760 --> 00:11:08.400 that may not have even been rendering at 1080p. 00:11:08.400 --> 00:11:13.400 This game runs like crap on the recommended hardware. 00:11:14.560 --> 00:11:16.560 Everything low, all the things. 00:11:17.560 --> 00:11:20.320 But no upscaling. No, you don't get to do that. 00:11:23.840 --> 00:11:27.360 Ooh, that literally didn't help. 00:11:27.360 --> 00:11:31.480 It did a little. Did it? Yeah, just a little, not much. It's hard to read the number in the corner. 00:11:31.480 --> 00:11:34.280 Okay, but should anyone really turn FSR off? 00:11:35.760 --> 00:11:39.440 Okay, fine, fine. 30 FPS, sir. 00:11:40.640 --> 00:11:44.160 I feel like it's messin' around with stuff in the background. This looks worse in my opinion. 00:11:44.160 --> 00:11:49.080 This looks, oh, yeah, this looks way worse. Well, I think I've experienced enough of this. 00:11:49.080 --> 00:11:53.320 Yeah. You ready for minimum? Yeah. He's upset. 00:11:53.320 --> 00:11:56.920 I am. I'm pretty upset right now, yeah. 00:11:56.920 --> 00:12:01.040 If I hadn't played the game at all yet, I would probably be doom and glooming right now. 00:12:01.040 --> 00:12:05.320 But I played it on a 7900XTX last night. So I know what it can feel like when it's good. 00:12:05.320 --> 00:12:08.800 Played it on a $1,000 graphics card. Yeah. 00:12:08.800 --> 00:12:12.240 AMD and NVIDIA, I gotta be sitting there. Yes! 00:12:12.240 --> 00:12:15.800 Well, not NVIDIA, they don't care. NVIDIA doesn't care about it. AMD will be. 00:12:15.800 --> 00:12:22.400 You know what I'm noticing, looking at this test bench? We've only gone down one generation for CPU to a 2600X. 00:12:22.400 --> 00:12:26.520 Our RAM's a little slower, just because it doesn't support as fast RAM. 00:12:26.520 --> 00:12:30.400 SATA SSD, which I'm not expecting to matter, but our GPU. 00:12:30.440 --> 00:12:34.320 RX 5700. That's not slow. 00:12:34.320 --> 00:12:37.520 No. And that's bare minimum. 00:12:37.520 --> 00:12:41.240 Oh. Is this what we had it on? 00:12:41.240 --> 00:12:44.880 Go to defaults. Go to defaults. Yeah, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right. Wait. 00:12:44.880 --> 00:12:48.120 No, yeah, this is false. Oh. This is a new computer, Luke. 00:12:49.200 --> 00:12:52.560 Okay. Okay, so we- Hey, we get to have to feed. Yeah. 00:12:54.000 --> 00:12:58.080 Do we have motion blur? No, motion blur is off. But dynamic resolution is on. 00:12:58.840 --> 00:13:02.520 Render scales at 50, or is it? 50. Yeah. 00:13:02.520 --> 00:13:04.720 1080p, all low. 00:13:07.640 --> 00:13:11.280 You don't notice it when you're moving in a straight line. Yeah, the turning- 00:13:11.280 --> 00:13:13.760 That is really interesting, but the turning. 00:13:15.360 --> 00:13:18.960 Yeah, the turning's not awesome. So. Less object loading. 00:13:18.960 --> 00:13:22.280 That's right. And easy to handle dynamic scaling 00:13:22.280 --> 00:13:26.240 as you get in closer and farther from objects, but obviously- 00:13:26.760 --> 00:13:30.360 Immediately upon turning. Yeah. 00:13:30.360 --> 00:13:34.520 That's very interesting. I know that when I was playing at home, 00:13:34.520 --> 00:13:38.800 just turning V-Sync off instantly made that feel a lot better. 00:13:38.800 --> 00:13:42.200 I don't know what it was, but it just, it felt like garbage. I mean, it always does, 00:13:42.200 --> 00:13:46.200 but turning specifically felt like garbage with V-Sync on. 00:13:46.200 --> 00:13:50.680 Okay. That's better. It's still, it's tearing and there's other problems, 00:13:50.680 --> 00:13:54.240 but it's better. It feels smoother though. Yeah. That's a lot of tearing, 00:13:54.240 --> 00:13:57.800 which is something that you're inherently going to get 00:13:57.800 --> 00:14:03.000 without any kind of vertical sync, but some engines are more susceptible to it than others. 00:14:03.000 --> 00:14:06.440 For example, if you were to play one of the Tomb Raider games, 00:14:06.440 --> 00:14:11.000 I don't know what magic they put in that engine, 00:14:11.000 --> 00:14:15.040 but it doesn't really tear to the same extent that we're seeing right now. 00:14:15.040 --> 00:14:18.880 It's so much that it almost looks like a Jell-O effect, 00:14:18.880 --> 00:14:22.240 like you saw on some of the older iPads. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:14:22.240 --> 00:14:27.440 You could see that, hey? How it skews the shape of that doorway. 00:14:27.440 --> 00:14:30.960 However, okay, let's give credit where it's due. 00:14:30.960 --> 00:14:34.280 It's still a pretty okay looking game at all low. 00:14:34.280 --> 00:14:37.640 Yeah. Honestly, less noticeable out here, 00:14:37.640 --> 00:14:40.400 because I'm kind of looking off into the distance. Yeah. 00:14:42.000 --> 00:14:48.280 Still looks pretty good. Yeah, you know what? It's mostly the level of detail at a distance that gets me. 00:14:48.280 --> 00:14:51.640 Like everything up close, still looks pretty good. 00:14:52.640 --> 00:14:56.720 My character looks pretty darn good. My ARM out in front of me looks pretty good. 00:14:56.720 --> 00:14:59.920 You can tell they are definitely picking their battles 00:14:59.920 --> 00:15:03.280 with respect to what's being rendered at a higher resolution. Yeah. 00:15:03.280 --> 00:15:06.480 Bow, bow, bow. I've never even seen that warning in the game. 00:15:06.480 --> 00:15:12.520 And crashed. I wouldn't normally go, oh, a new game crashed. 00:15:12.520 --> 00:15:18.040 Uh, uh. But it seems it's because of- We specifically built this. 00:15:18.040 --> 00:15:21.200 Yeah. To their recommended specifications. 00:15:21.240 --> 00:15:24.880 But your 7900 XT has been rock solid. 00:15:24.880 --> 00:15:28.880 Flawless. Other than heating my legs a little bit too much, 00:15:28.880 --> 00:15:33.040 it's been great. Overall, definitely looks like you smeared Vaseline 00:15:33.040 --> 00:15:36.120 all over the screen. Like look at the textures on these boxes here. 00:15:36.120 --> 00:15:40.080 Yeah. I can barely even tell that there's definition 00:15:40.080 --> 00:15:43.720 to this from a distance, right? I have to get up to here. 00:15:43.720 --> 00:15:48.280 It is getting better. To see that this is like, got depth to it, you know? 00:15:48.280 --> 00:15:52.520 This whole, you'll have 30 to 40 FPS and you'll like it experience 00:15:52.520 --> 00:15:57.760 is not selling me on this game right now. Yeah. I mean, this is fine. 00:15:57.760 --> 00:16:01.640 I just wish that they were giving me all the different dials that they're adjusting. 00:16:01.640 --> 00:16:04.680 And what I would expect is that mods are gonna come out 00:16:04.680 --> 00:16:08.800 that are gonna allow you to much more finely tuned the level of detail. 00:16:08.800 --> 00:16:12.840 You can tell that the Fezda is targeting their 1% lows 00:16:12.840 --> 00:16:16.440 as opposed to just averages, which is kind of cool. Seems kind of smart. 00:16:16.440 --> 00:16:19.560 Because our averages are like 45, 50, 00:16:19.600 --> 00:16:26.160 which contributes to an overall smoother feel. But our 1% lows are around 25, 26, 00:16:26.160 --> 00:16:29.760 which is exactly where we were at the recommended spec as well. 00:16:29.760 --> 00:16:33.200 It's just that the averages were much closer there. 00:16:33.200 --> 00:16:38.280 I couldn't even speculate sort of, you know, why it was a more even experience last time. 00:16:38.280 --> 00:16:41.840 Look at that, that shimmering object right there. What is that? 00:16:41.840 --> 00:16:47.040 The crosshairs, oh. That whole little pad there. 00:16:47.040 --> 00:16:54.000 That shouldn't be happening. It's just a platform. Not having the option to take the recommended config 00:16:54.000 --> 00:16:57.840 and just turn it down to something that'll get me 60 FPS 00:16:57.840 --> 00:17:02.480 is extremely frustrating to me. Let's go back to recommended for a minute here. 00:17:02.480 --> 00:17:05.560 Cause it feels like we've got to be missing something 00:17:05.560 --> 00:17:10.400 if we're running at 40 plus FPS on the minimum spec 00:17:10.400 --> 00:17:15.400 at the same settings and 30 FPS at the recommended spec. 00:17:15.720 --> 00:17:20.760 Yep, no, this looks like poo. I imagined it. Even how much more powerful the 2080 is, 00:17:20.760 --> 00:17:24.960 this is not really a better enough experience. 00:17:24.960 --> 00:17:29.440 First of all, does this look, does that look better? It looks more like heat distortion or something. 00:17:29.440 --> 00:17:35.200 Yeah, it looks marginally better, I think. Honestly, it looks a little better to me. 00:17:35.200 --> 00:17:39.080 The 5700 is meant to contend with a 2060 Super. 00:17:39.080 --> 00:17:42.760 Yeah, and this is a 2080 non-super. 00:17:42.760 --> 00:17:47.520 Correct. So it's a full tier and change better. 00:17:47.520 --> 00:17:51.760 But that's not even the point for me. This is just static, we're not moving. 00:17:51.760 --> 00:17:55.120 What I wanna know is if there's sliders I don't have access to 00:17:55.120 --> 00:17:59.680 and the level of detail at a distance looks better to me. 00:17:59.680 --> 00:18:06.720 I think they're messing around with draw distance with some dynamic setting that I don't have access to. 00:18:06.720 --> 00:18:10.320 Interesting, yeah. That's my theory right now. Can we look at the ship? 00:18:11.360 --> 00:18:14.920 I don't think I'm imagining it. That looks pretty similar to me. 00:18:14.920 --> 00:18:18.960 But I think it's better. Same thing with these solar panels 00:18:18.960 --> 00:18:23.560 or whatever they are on that structure behind it. Okay, let's open up frame view 00:18:23.560 --> 00:18:28.560 and see because this is so much of a more powerful card 00:18:28.640 --> 00:18:33.040 that the only way that this could be running at a similar FPS at the same settings 00:18:33.040 --> 00:18:35.160 would be if it's doing that, it's not. 00:18:36.120 --> 00:18:39.360 You know how I pointed out earlier that we like loaded into the level 00:18:39.360 --> 00:18:45.520 and it was like running at a high FPS and then it like went down, yeah. So we're, I think this is a little higher 00:18:45.680 --> 00:18:49.600 than we had last time. It's performing better than before. It's about 45 FPS average now. 00:18:50.880 --> 00:18:55.880 I think we've got this figured out now. Dynamic resolution is a bit of a misleading name 00:18:55.880 --> 00:18:59.240 for what's going on here. And actually, even the description of it 00:18:59.240 --> 00:19:03.240 doesn't give you much help. When enabled, this allows the game resolution 00:19:03.240 --> 00:19:06.440 to be reduced dynamically in high intensity scenes 00:19:06.440 --> 00:19:12.040 in order to maintain frame rate. Okay, fair enough. But in PC gaming, we think of resolution 00:19:12.040 --> 00:19:17.320 not by its dictionary definition, but we think of it in terms of pixel count. 00:19:17.320 --> 00:19:21.120 That's not what they're doing. And in fact, they're doing more than one thing 00:19:21.120 --> 00:19:25.240 as far as we can tell. They are dynamically changing the quality 00:19:25.240 --> 00:19:28.440 at which things are rendered at distance. 00:19:28.440 --> 00:19:33.800 So I would consider that something more along the lines of a view distance slider. 00:19:33.800 --> 00:19:37.200 And it appears that that's our only slider 00:19:37.200 --> 00:19:40.720 that adjusts texture quality. I think so. 00:19:40.720 --> 00:19:45.720 That's why the entire game just looks better on this card, 00:19:46.400 --> 00:19:52.980 even though we're not running at a markedly higher frame rate. Because you're turning on your hidden sliders basically. 00:19:52.980 --> 00:19:57.320 And who knows what else? It's doing those two things for all I know. 00:19:57.320 --> 00:20:00.720 It could be adjusting the actual entire resolution 00:20:00.720 --> 00:20:04.500 that it is scaling the image at, PC resolution, pixel count, 00:20:04.500 --> 00:20:07.800 and then upscaling more or less as well. 00:20:08.280 --> 00:20:13.440 It says specifically that it will reduce. It never actually says it will increase 00:20:13.440 --> 00:20:16.560 in how it's written. But we are also upscaling. 00:20:16.560 --> 00:20:20.640 So we would be relying more on our upscaling. 00:20:20.640 --> 00:20:23.760 You know what? Shut up, Alt F4 working. 00:20:23.760 --> 00:20:28.080 Yeah. Okay, games that lock out Alt F4 can die in a fire. 00:20:28.080 --> 00:20:32.840 Fun fact, we just heard from Riley from the TechLink team that apparently 00:20:32.840 --> 00:20:36.280 ARC, Intel ARC, is just not launching the game at all. 00:20:36.280 --> 00:20:41.600 They're targeting broad release as opposed to early release rough. 00:20:41.600 --> 00:20:45.760 Notice something? Yeah. On a 1080p monitor, 00:20:45.760 --> 00:20:50.360 their recommended settings are very different. 00:20:50.360 --> 00:20:55.360 Why do they assume, based on my desktop resolution settings, 00:20:55.760 --> 00:21:00.160 how I might like to play the game? Cause I was kind of wondering about that. 00:21:00.160 --> 00:21:03.560 50% scaling of 4K is not 1080p. 00:21:03.560 --> 00:21:07.400 But why are we targeting 720p resolution scale 00:21:07.400 --> 00:21:11.280 with upscaling at high now? Like what experience is this gonna be? 00:21:11.280 --> 00:21:15.360 Maybe we should see, yeah. The fact that their recommendation is so different, 00:21:15.360 --> 00:21:19.520 just based on what like stupid pixel count my monitor is, 00:21:19.520 --> 00:21:24.080 is pretty bothersome to me. I hate that the resolution scaling is just a slider 00:21:24.080 --> 00:21:29.560 because I can't tell exactly what's going on. Performance is basically the same. 00:21:29.560 --> 00:21:33.320 Ah, you're, you're pretty high, I don't know. Oh, it doesn't like it. 00:21:33.320 --> 00:21:38.080 Oh, can you jump into the ship? Can you jump? Nope, I'm just stuck. 00:21:38.080 --> 00:21:41.960 What if you run into the ship after they get off of it? Cause the ship takes off. 00:21:43.800 --> 00:21:50.640 Oh, more! I would pick not having to change my desktop resolution 00:21:50.640 --> 00:21:54.600 in order to get access to a lower render scale. 00:21:54.600 --> 00:21:57.640 Yeah, that's garbage. I honestly, I hate that. 00:21:57.640 --> 00:22:02.080 They should just let me pick a pixel count and then upscale to whatever the resolution is. 00:22:02.760 --> 00:22:06.400 I really, really do not like not having access 00:22:06.400 --> 00:22:09.400 to your resolution. I want to try one last thing 00:22:09.400 --> 00:22:14.880 before we finally play on the high end system. I want to play at those low, at our low preset now. 00:22:14.880 --> 00:22:21.360 At this. Yeah. Well, cause you would do a lot. Render resolution scale is just according to graphics 00:22:21.360 --> 00:22:23.320 preset, are you kidding me? 00:22:24.600 --> 00:22:28.480 Ultra is still 75%. No, but that's the thing. 00:22:28.480 --> 00:22:32.440 Render resolution scale should be completely independent 00:22:32.440 --> 00:22:37.760 of your graphics, like visual fidelity. I do agree that, I wouldn't normally agree, 00:22:37.760 --> 00:22:41.560 but because they put it above graphics preset, 00:22:41.560 --> 00:22:45.160 you would think it wouldn't be changed. No, it's not just that, like logically speaking, 00:22:45.160 --> 00:22:51.440 that's why so many games put the resolution and the rendering scale in a completely different 00:22:51.440 --> 00:22:54.720 subheading in the menu. That's why they do it, because it's like, 00:22:54.720 --> 00:23:00.360 basically a different thing. It's not a level of detail setting. Sorry, I'm getting kind of upset right now, 00:23:00.360 --> 00:23:05.360 because you set a resolution and then you set a detail level. 00:23:06.520 --> 00:23:12.080 When I set a higher detail level, I am often doing so knowing that that is going to cost me 00:23:12.080 --> 00:23:15.600 a trade-off in the resolution that I can run at at a given FPS. 00:23:15.600 --> 00:23:19.240 One thing too is there's an arrow after ultra, even though nothing else can go up, 00:23:19.240 --> 00:23:23.200 is that just dynamic resolution scale? Did nothing change? 00:23:23.200 --> 00:23:27.440 Ultra at a custom, but there's no, nothing changes. 00:23:28.480 --> 00:23:32.520 That's so random. 59, 60! 00:23:32.520 --> 00:23:36.200 Okay, I'm finally running, but I am running at 00:23:37.080 --> 00:23:40.880 literally 540p upscaled. 00:23:40.880 --> 00:23:44.080 Oh my. You know how I said earlier, 00:23:44.080 --> 00:23:47.880 that 50% of 4K is not 1080p? 00:23:47.880 --> 00:23:51.640 I think it might be. I think 50%- 00:23:51.640 --> 00:23:55.400 I'm pretty sure it might be one quarter 00:23:55.400 --> 00:24:01.200 the actual pixel count, right? Because 50% of the resolution by pixel count 00:24:01.200 --> 00:24:06.200 would actually be like at like 60 something percent 00:24:06.880 --> 00:24:11.320 on the slide. You get what I mean, right? Cause you're cutting out like this. 00:24:11.320 --> 00:24:14.920 No, I think this is actually 540p. 00:24:14.920 --> 00:24:18.280 So now we're just actually running at 1080p. 00:24:18.320 --> 00:24:24.680 This is like when we were at 4K at 50% resolution scaling. 00:24:24.680 --> 00:24:30.760 If this was my hardware, this is probably what I would do, personally. And the only way to access this is by manually changing 00:24:30.760 --> 00:24:34.440 your desktop resolution, which is garbage, 00:24:34.440 --> 00:24:37.960 because I really don't want to have to change that every single time I load the game up. 00:24:37.960 --> 00:24:41.320 All the body language analysts out there, 00:24:41.320 --> 00:24:45.960 and we know there's a lot of them on the internet are watching us right now. 00:24:46.720 --> 00:24:50.200 Both crossed. Not even playing the game, just like, don't like it. 00:24:50.200 --> 00:24:53.920 Yeah, yeah. That is, this is 100% what I would do, 00:24:53.920 --> 00:24:59.000 but it needing manual, like what? It literally has the arrows. 00:24:59.000 --> 00:25:02.040 But you can't change it cause I'm in borderless full screen, like. 00:25:03.560 --> 00:25:08.000 Oh. Oh, wait. I think I know what's going to happen. 00:25:09.200 --> 00:25:16.160 Ah! I have something way more important to talk about. 00:25:16.160 --> 00:25:19.440 Actual settings? It's the fact that on a 4090, 00:25:19.440 --> 00:25:23.600 our render resolution scale is 75%. 00:25:23.600 --> 00:25:30.800 Now that I understand better how that scale is working on this particular title, kind of 1440p. 00:25:30.800 --> 00:25:35.000 Interesting, they know that that's the resolution that people should use. Crazy. 00:25:35.000 --> 00:25:38.120 And FSR is on. Yeah. 00:25:38.120 --> 00:25:43.080 I'm not even able to run it that natively. Now, I'm very interested to see 00:25:43.080 --> 00:25:47.040 what kind of FPS they've chosen for me. 00:25:47.040 --> 00:25:52.400 Okay. It's definitely running at higher than 60 FPS now. 00:25:52.400 --> 00:25:56.040 The flames from the ship look a little better. 00:25:57.040 --> 00:26:01.400 Smoke looks pretty similar. It's an interesting point. We were talking about this while the camera was off, 00:26:01.400 --> 00:26:07.400 but Ploof brought up that in modern games, there's so many tricks that they can use 00:26:07.400 --> 00:26:13.800 that honestly, the difference between low and ultra these days is just not the same as it used to be. 00:26:13.800 --> 00:26:17.680 It's still not the night and day difference that it used to be back in the day. I think that's completely legit, 00:26:17.680 --> 00:26:21.920 but it does look a lot better. It looks a lot better. Like, look how clean the ship looks from here. 00:26:21.920 --> 00:26:23.600 Oh yeah. Oh yeah. 00:26:25.120 --> 00:26:28.800 Ah, man, so it's view distance, man. 00:26:28.800 --> 00:26:32.840 View distance is a big one. This is one of the few games in a long time 00:26:32.840 --> 00:26:39.400 that makes me want a really sick GPU though. I wish they just gave me my texture settings 00:26:39.400 --> 00:26:43.720 and just gave me my level of detail and view distance settings. 00:26:43.720 --> 00:26:47.560 Can we turn off motion blur now? Okay, mom. 00:26:48.560 --> 00:26:53.160 Motion blur, please. I'm turning it off. Please. Luke, I hate it as much as you do, 00:26:53.160 --> 00:26:56.920 but it's not what we're doing today. Honestly, it looks better with it. 00:26:56.920 --> 00:27:00.680 My strong tear. It feels like there's tearing though. 00:27:00.680 --> 00:27:04.880 His mind wasn't open to this experience. What do you think? What do you think? I don't like motion blur. 00:27:04.880 --> 00:27:08.560 I don't like motion blur either. You guys have both known me for years. 00:27:08.560 --> 00:27:11.720 I know, my setup is correct. But it looks bad. My setup is correct. 00:27:11.720 --> 00:27:16.120 Honestly, I would still keep v-sync off, but what I would do is I would just not play at 4K. 00:27:16.120 --> 00:27:20.600 Shout out 1440p or 1600p, realistically, 00:27:20.600 --> 00:27:25.120 as just always being the correct answer. Remember that video we did years ago, Ploof? 00:27:25.120 --> 00:27:29.920 4K gaming's a rip-off where we basically are like, yep, 1440p is the sweet spot, 00:27:29.920 --> 00:27:33.800 if you like smoothness and good image quality. Yeah, this is good. 00:27:33.840 --> 00:27:37.920 It looks great as long as you're only trying to run it 00:27:37.920 --> 00:27:42.440 at a reasonable resolution. It should be noted that FSR is on, 00:27:42.440 --> 00:27:47.440 so we are not necessarily actually rendering at 1440p, 00:27:48.320 --> 00:27:53.360 but I would not identify this. Honestly, I wouldn't even realize at a reasonable distance 00:27:53.360 --> 00:27:57.240 that this isn't 4K. 1440p really is a nice middle ground, 00:27:57.240 --> 00:28:03.160 but to get this experience, boy are we ever spending a ton of money. 00:28:03.200 --> 00:28:06.880 So we're running a Ryzen 7th Gen X3D processor, 00:28:06.880 --> 00:28:13.520 basically as fast as it gets for gaming. We've got 32 gigs of DDR5 memory and an RTX 4090. 00:28:13.520 --> 00:28:16.640 In summary, either the minimum or recommended spec 00:28:16.640 --> 00:28:21.960 is great as long as you wanna run at 30 FPS. If you happen to have a 1080p monitor 00:28:21.960 --> 00:28:25.760 or you manually set your desktop resolution to 1080, 00:28:25.760 --> 00:28:30.360 it enables a little bit more granularity to play around with what your render resolution is, 00:28:30.360 --> 00:28:37.520 and then you can kind of upscale from there to the point where you're happy. You might be able to get 60-ish, 60-class FPS, 00:28:37.520 --> 00:28:41.120 so you know, like high 40s to mid 50s. 00:28:41.120 --> 00:28:45.360 It'll feel okay. And if you wanna have the best experience on a PC, 00:28:45.360 --> 00:28:49.200 you are gonna be spending a fricking lot of money. 00:28:49.200 --> 00:28:55.040 That high performance spec is very expensive. Expensive, like this segue to our sponsor. 00:28:55.040 --> 00:29:00.240 If you guys enjoyed this video, hey, why don't you go check out when we played around with Cyberpunk after it first launched. 00:29:00.240 --> 00:29:04.320 There were some findings, there were some shenanigans. 00:29:04.320 --> 00:29:07.080 It's better now. It wasn't a smooth launch. Yeah.