1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:06,520 Heck yeah, heck yeah, oh we're gonna have to talk a little louder to get it 2 00:00:06,520 --> 00:00:13,240 adjusted. Hello hello hello hello hello hello yes the compressor has kicked in 3 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:23,680 now that's why it's cold outside. Oh my goodness this is an interesting strat 4 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:27,640 you're sitting that far from a power outlet but you've chosen to charge your 5 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:34,560 laptop off of the battery. Where's the USB plug on the power outlet? Thank you 6 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:40,400 for coming to my TED talk. I don't know why why don't you have a charger for 7 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:46,760 your laptop. No I know I'm charging the battery bank. Off of your laptop oh this 8 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:51,080 is even dumber than I thought. Well where's the where's the other plug? Right 9 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:59,280 What do you mean? That's the charger for the battery. What? Run your laptop off of 10 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:06,280 battery. Why? Because it'll charge this faster. I have the whole show. The whole 11 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:12,720 show for your incredible the WAN Show with our laptop partner Dell to just 12 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:20,080 last for a long time and then this would be charged. You know what you do you. I 13 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:24,640 can do it it's fine. This way I'll never have to worry about it's all it's 14 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:32,000 completely. Yeah you've created a perpetual motion machine you've done a good job. What do you mean? The laptop so the wall charges the laptop which 15 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:37,160 charges the battery bank which charges the laptop everything is charged. It's 16 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:40,680 it's going one direction right now it's just it's just charging the battery bank. 17 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:49,360 It's got that one thing. Yeah yeah that's what makes it beautiful. I do find it 18 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:53,640 very annoying. My Lenovo laptop literally no matter what the state of the 19 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:57,080 laptop is and no matter what the state of the battery bank is it will only flow 20 00:01:57,080 --> 00:02:02,200 battery bank to laptop. This is no we're not live this has nothing to do with 21 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:08,960 Dell versus Lenovo whatever. It's probably like like Lenovo's like utility. Probably 22 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:12,960 something there might be a way I can configure it to change it whatever but 23 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:16,680 like the whole handshake thing that everyone was told it does not do that 24 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:23,200 on that laptop for whatever reason. It does charge the laptop though which is 25 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:29,160 cool. Nice. That is sweet. That is also like why I did buy this as well even 26 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:38,440 though it's your green friendly sponsor bros I bought it all right. Should we do 27 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:42,880 this thing? Let's do this thing. Let's get the show started. First exclusive to 28 00:02:42,920 --> 00:02:51,520 the pre-show stop floaties. Oh no Christmas is done. No longer Christmas. Oh no. That's 29 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:58,360 right. That's how you know that he died because the tree goes away. No his mass 30 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:06,000 is over but he lives on in spirit and also came back to life with new mass. 31 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:16,440 Also Christmas is like the birth one not the death one but also he wasn't born 32 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:27,800 at Christmas time so I'd love to listen to Linus religious tips. Not going to happen. 33 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:35,400 I was trying to explain religious concepts to someone a few days ago using 34 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:43,920 Warhammer 40k references to try to make them make sense. I was like you see. The 35 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:50,600 Holy Ghost is like the war. I was literally doing something. I was like you need to 36 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:56,760 understand. The Geller drive is like the communion wafers. The amazing part was 37 00:03:56,880 --> 00:04:04,880 it was working. It actually helps to make it make sense. The tech priests are like real priests. 38 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:16,040 Mars' influence on the politics of Terra are important to understand. I'm going to 39 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:21,640 grab a snack because it's a little bit early to be this crazy without a snack. 40 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:25,720 Oh man. 41 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:59,320 Yeah I can't remember what like sparked it. I think they were trying to say that 42 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:08,920 like oh man I don't know if I want to get to religious stuff but I don't think 43 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:15,000 this is anti any particular religion. They were trying to say that they find 44 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:19,560 it interesting how you're supposed to interpret things that were done or may 45 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:23,600 have been done based on writings largely from other people about a certain 46 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:33,880 person and I was talking about how Warhammer 40k has that problem. Leave it 47 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:41,600 at that. Are we canceled now? No I think I tried carefully enough. Or was it the 48 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:49,000 other way around? They were talking about that in Warhammer and I related that to it anyways. It's something. It was a bit of a go. 49 00:05:49,000 --> 00:06:17,400 What are we waiting for at this current moment? Just snack time? Okay. Perfect. 50 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:26,120 Who's here? My life for Iyer. My life for Iyer. I miss when StarCraft was like 51 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:32,960 cool and relevant. They could have done so much with that IP. So much dude. Where's 52 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:42,080 Ghost? Look at what happened to Space Marine dude. Don't say his name. StarCraft 53 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:50,880 Ghost man. Oh no. Look there's even like I don't know if this stuff is fake or not 54 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:57,880 but man and you may be like whoa looks bad. It's so old dude. I don't know if 55 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:03,000 this is real. I don't know if the time frame makes sense for it to have like Halo 56 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:18,000 2 graphics. Another one graphics maybe. It's Fortnite? No. I don't think so. No. 2005. Wow 57 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:28,680 it is that old. Multiplayer plot. I had so much going for it dude. Base around a beloved 58 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:39,680 character who is super hyped up in multiple games. Everything. Any hope for that? No. 59 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:48,520 There's no hope for ghosts. Not currently at least. We'll see what I guess a Microsoft 60 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:57,160 decides to do because that's a thing now I guess. Strangely enough. Four minutes of StarCraft 61 00:07:57,160 --> 00:08:03,680 Ghost gameplay with commentary. I forgot this was like a thing. Look at me spore flashbacks. 62 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:09,840 Look at this dude. Spore flashbacks. Spore actually came out though. Yeah but it was 63 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:14,040 nothing like it was supposed to be. Well yeah because it was Star Citizen. It looks like 64 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:23,840 it would be fun. Yeah. I can't believe they had this much of a game and it never became 65 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:34,840 a thing. Wild. All right. Should we do this thing? Nice sweater dude. You've got things 66 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:39,840 going on. I don't know if you want that or not. Sure. Sounds good. Adds to the stoyle. 67 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:53,840 Resuming the selected now. Dan you might have to let me know when it's live. Heard. Heard. 68 00:08:53,840 --> 00:09:11,840 Peter Mullen you. That's a name I haven't heard. What's up everybody and welcome to the 69 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:19,140 WAN Show. We have a great show lined up for you guys this week because people weren't in 70 00:09:20,140 --> 00:09:25,140 office much this week so Luke and I will be making up a lot of things as we go. Yeah. 71 00:09:25,140 --> 00:09:32,140 That's right. The RAM shortage is in full swing and there's been even further negative developments. 72 00:09:32,140 --> 00:09:41,140 That's right. It has gotten worse. No. I'm serious. Over Christmas. Yes. How could they. 73 00:09:41,140 --> 00:09:48,140 It got worse. There's actually system integrators that have come up with the innovation of selling 74 00:09:48,140 --> 00:09:58,140 computers without RAM. Bring your own RAM PCs. That is end times right there. I will say 75 00:09:58,140 --> 00:10:03,140 end times. No we're not talking about it yet. Also we're going to be talking about how Spotify 76 00:10:03,140 --> 00:10:10,140 managed to be entirely scraped. That's right. You can download the entirety of Spotify if 77 00:10:10,140 --> 00:10:16,140 of course you are a filthy pirate which no judgment you might be. Speaking of scraping 78 00:10:16,140 --> 00:10:25,140 Google sues another company for scraping Google in an act that is very interesting. Okay. 79 00:10:25,140 --> 00:10:31,140 Thank you. That does sound interesting. Also Valve continues the cheapest steam deck. Did 80 00:10:31,140 --> 00:10:35,140 you say continues or discontinues. I might have said continues. I meant discontinues. 81 00:10:35,140 --> 00:10:41,140 Right. Nice. A bit of a bit of an important clarity. Discontinued. Yes. They continued to 82 00:10:41,140 --> 00:10:44,140 discontinue. 83 00:10:44,140 --> 00:11:13,140 The show is brought to you by. Oh crap. I. 84 00:11:13,140 --> 00:11:20,140 My brain does not turn on this early in the morning. And it's brought to you by Squarespace 85 00:11:20,140 --> 00:11:27,140 Vessie AMD and you green along with our chair partner secret lab our Dell partner laptop 86 00:11:27,140 --> 00:11:37,140 laptop partner Dell and of course our rap partner D brand. Our D brand partner rap. 87 00:11:38,140 --> 00:11:48,140 Did we. Yo D brand. Did we continue having our rap. D brand protect your laptop. Don't 88 00:11:48,140 --> 00:11:59,140 let it be a crap top. Oh my God. Watch me go flip flap top. Oh yeah. Flap top. Yeah but 89 00:11:59,140 --> 00:12:06,140 you just rhymed top with top. You did laptop and flap top. I've heard far more egregious 90 00:12:06,140 --> 00:12:16,140 non rhymes in actual professional music sir. Fair enough. It has happened I guess. Yo. 91 00:12:20,140 --> 00:12:28,140 No. Okay sure. Yo let's go straight into Yo ho ho Spotify has been scraped and is being 92 00:12:28,140 --> 00:12:36,140 loaded on torrents and as archives scraped and downloaded 256 million rows of metadata 93 00:12:36,140 --> 00:12:41,140 actually wait no I lied I have something more important to talk about first and that is 94 00:12:41,140 --> 00:12:50,140 that these are out now and you have a very very limited amount of time to get them for 95 00:12:50,140 --> 00:13:03,140 20% off courtesy of oh God courtesy of YouTube the priz magic screwdrivers are here they're 96 00:13:03,140 --> 00:13:12,140 out non infringing purple non infringing teal non infringing orange and legally distinct 97 00:13:12,140 --> 00:13:18,140 gray they're all here delicious we're calling them plasma purple molten orange cryo teal and 98 00:13:18,140 --> 00:13:25,140 carbon black fun nostalgic Y2K clear tech colors it's the priz magic series of screwdrivers 99 00:13:25,140 --> 00:13:33,140 and we are teaming up with YouTube shop to offer 20% off from December 26th to the 30th 100 00:13:33,140 --> 00:13:40,140 20% off and this is not the kind of thing that's just like oh well you know LTT will just sell 101 00:13:40,140 --> 00:13:46,140 it for 20% off no we're teaming up with YouTube shop for the 20% off discount it is only 102 00:13:46,140 --> 00:13:52,140 eligible during this period so go to YouTube click on the video every LTT Store item that 103 00:13:52,140 --> 00:13:56,140 didn't happen Dan is going to link that because I believe it's actually unlisted right now 104 00:13:56,140 --> 00:14:03,140 but once when show goes live that video will go up add the priz magic screwdriver through 105 00:14:03,140 --> 00:14:07,140 YouTube shopping that's all you have to do the discount applies automatically but it is 106 00:14:07,140 --> 00:14:11,140 only for five days get it while you can we'll talk about other LTT Store stuff later but 107 00:14:11,140 --> 00:14:16,140 that is the most important one one quick sec while we talk about YouTube shopping adding it 108 00:14:16,140 --> 00:14:22,140 with YouTube shopping does that mean grabbing it down here how do they do that like if I'm on 109 00:14:22,140 --> 00:14:27,140 I'm on the the website if I'm on the website I see this banner so if you video on YouTube add 110 00:14:27,140 --> 00:14:30,140 product and cart through YouTube shopping discounts automatically applied I click view on 111 00:14:30,140 --> 00:14:35,140 YouTube you've got to be kidding me hold on Sammy says we're having issues right now trying 112 00:14:35,140 --> 00:14:41,140 to resolve oh hey everyone we're having some issues with YouTube shopping promo we're working 113 00:14:41,140 --> 00:14:48,140 on it as fast as we can what 114 00:14:53,140 --> 00:15:04,140 sorry I just I tried to go through the flow and was just like yeah cool no work and 115 00:15:04,140 --> 00:15:10,140 as archive the scraped and downloaded 256 million rows of metadata and 86 million 116 00:15:10,140 --> 00:15:17,140 auto audio files from Spotify totaling around 300 terabytes of data and as archive typically 117 00:15:17,140 --> 00:15:22,140 aggregates print media links for books and papers and provides searchable results in its 118 00:15:22,140 --> 00:15:27,140 mission of preserving humanity's knowledge and culture and as archive has been blocked in many 119 00:15:27,140 --> 00:15:32,140 countries and has had hundreds of millions of URL takedown requests filed with Google the 120 00:15:32,140 --> 00:15:40,140 86 million audio tracks that's me are composed of 160 kilobit per second quality for popular 121 00:15:40,140 --> 00:15:48,140 songs and it drops down to 75 kilobits per second for less listened tracks I am muted 122 00:15:48,140 --> 00:15:57,140 now these tracks represent 99.6% of listens on Spotify that's crazy they state this Spotify 123 00:15:57,140 --> 00:16:03,140 scrape is our humble attempt to start such a preservation archive for music of course Spotify 124 00:16:03,140 --> 00:16:08,140 doesn't have all the music in the world but it's a great start they will be releasing the data on 125 00:16:08,140 --> 00:16:14,140 their torrents page in different stages with the metadata already released then the music files 126 00:16:14,140 --> 00:16:19,140 will be dropped in order of popularity followed by additional file metadata and album art they also 127 00:16:19,140 --> 00:16:24,140 state on their blog for now this is a torrents only archive aimed at preservation but if there is 128 00:16:24,140 --> 00:16:29,140 enough interest we could add downloading of individual files to Anna's archive please let us know 129 00:16:29,140 --> 00:16:35,140 if you would like this Spotify later responded saying they have identified and disabled the 130 00:16:35,140 --> 00:16:40,140 accounts that were scraping the data they state since day one we have stood with the artist 131 00:16:40,140 --> 00:16:44,140 community against piracy and we are actively working with our industry partners to protect 132 00:16:45,140 --> 00:16:57,140 creators and defend their rights all right so this seems you know what let's have the 133 00:16:57,140 --> 00:17:05,140 conversation we were having pre-show oh boy Luke has a theory that that I think is an 134 00:17:05,140 --> 00:17:11,140 interesting theory and let's not get too deep into the granularity necessarily of it okay but 135 00:17:11,140 --> 00:17:20,140 Luke basically presented that he wasn't sure that people would be as yo ho ho are you know about 136 00:17:20,140 --> 00:17:24,140 this and I don't think they have been I would put that out there as they necessarily have been 137 00:17:24,140 --> 00:17:30,140 about other things and I just want to do like kind of a vibe check with the community basically 138 00:17:30,140 --> 00:17:37,140 I'll lay out sort of the bones of Luke's theory and then we can shiver me them timbers bury them 139 00:17:37,140 --> 00:17:43,140 six feet under or we can or we can keep talking about it but basically what he said was like 140 00:17:43,140 --> 00:17:50,140 there seems to be a sliding scale of acceptance like yeah like a pecking order of what's very 141 00:17:50,140 --> 00:17:58,140 okay to pirate versus what's not very okay to pirate TV shows seem to be very okay to pirate 142 00:17:59,140 --> 00:18:06,140 among sort of like you know the internet community sure books seem to be surprisingly okay 143 00:18:06,140 --> 00:18:13,140 thoughtlessly no one cares pirated with with no cares given you know websites with paywalls seem 144 00:18:13,140 --> 00:18:20,140 to get treated as just like like that was just an obstacle that was in the way of my God 145 00:18:20,140 --> 00:18:26,140 given right to view the website so they seem to be like on the highest level of acceptance for 146 00:18:26,140 --> 00:18:35,140 for that but then audio over and this is a funny thing because in the early torrenting days 147 00:18:35,140 --> 00:18:41,140 when it was when we called it Napster audio was like most of it audio was most of it yeah and 148 00:18:41,140 --> 00:18:47,140 that was mostly because just the internet wasn't really fast enough to meaningfully pirate movies 149 00:18:47,140 --> 00:18:56,140 and and TV shows and also streaming sites didn't really exist encoding technology wasn't as as awesome 150 00:18:56,140 --> 00:19:03,140 like you couldn't get great quality at an amount of you know bandwidth that was reasonable for you to 151 00:19:03,140 --> 00:19:08,140 actually download like it just you know video media just wasn't really feasible at that time but 152 00:19:08,140 --> 00:19:12,140 like what are what are your guys's what are your guys's take on this oh right so where I was going 153 00:19:12,140 --> 00:19:20,140 with that was but audio ever since I mean realistically ever since the all you can eat 154 00:19:20,140 --> 00:19:27,140 subscription model came to music I would say that music piracy while maybe maybe it's not deemed 155 00:19:27,140 --> 00:19:34,140 more acceptable than before it's certainly fallen out of vogue yeah and I will say that to counter 156 00:19:34,140 --> 00:19:41,140 my theory being more correct I suspect one of the reasons why there hasn't been as big of an explosion 157 00:19:41,140 --> 00:19:48,140 about this and his archive music thing as maybe there could have been is because a lot of people 158 00:19:48,140 --> 00:19:54,140 are subscribed to something YouTube premium which gives them YouTube music or Spotify or I don't 159 00:19:54,140 --> 00:20:00,140 know I'm assuming there's an Apple thing or title or whatever so they already have a subscription 160 00:20:00,140 --> 00:20:05,140 service that has practically everything so they just don't really like care that this archive is out 161 00:20:05,140 --> 00:20:12,140 there as much lion cat also brings up trying to buy TV shows and movies is really hard in digital 162 00:20:12,140 --> 00:20:18,140 formats that I don't have restrictions on whereas buying music with zero DRM is easy and fairly cheap 163 00:20:18,140 --> 00:20:26,140 so that sort of is it I believe so I mean I have I have mp3's that I bought on iTunes like 15 years 164 00:20:26,140 --> 00:20:31,140 ago that I could totally that's still a thing because that's the only way I don't know I don't know 165 00:20:31,140 --> 00:20:38,140 a couple artists that I've wanted to directly support so I've literally just like bought their thing 166 00:20:38,140 --> 00:20:45,140 and like I don't even know if it ever showed up it was like never the point right I just yeah but in a 167 00:20:45,140 --> 00:20:55,140 lot of cases if you're not an iTunes person band camp is that they do 168 00:20:56,140 --> 00:21:03,140 sort of has an interesting take here and to be clear I'm not I'm not backing any of these comments 169 00:21:03,140 --> 00:21:07,140 from float plain chat that I'm reading I'm just kind of reading them out because they're 170 00:21:07,140 --> 00:21:12,140 different from each other sort of says AI companies can scrape everything in existence 171 00:21:12,140 --> 00:21:20,140 I accept that everything is okay to pirate until AI companies with pirated data are gone after 172 00:21:20,140 --> 00:21:28,140 essentially that's interesting willing spy says if I cross the line I'm gonna cross the line 173 00:21:28,140 --> 00:21:39,140 I won't have any reservations so okay that's that's interesting doesn't feel like band camp is truly 174 00:21:39,140 --> 00:21:48,140 a solution in my view I'm looking up a few different things Dan vibes in float plain chat 175 00:21:48,140 --> 00:21:57,140 not to be confused with producer Dan says I'm a DJ I am also subscribed to official DJ libraries 176 00:21:57,140 --> 00:22:04,140 but for personal use I use certain YouTube downloaders so they so Dan vibes draws the line between 177 00:22:04,140 --> 00:22:12,140 commercial use and personal use that's an interesting line that is I think it's a semi common line 178 00:22:13,140 --> 00:22:15,140 yeah yeah no I can I can see that 179 00:22:18,140 --> 00:22:22,140 Savas I have no problem paying a certain amount of money for a single movie or TV show 180 00:22:22,140 --> 00:22:27,140 but all of them want subscriptions that drives me crazy I watch like one movie a month 181 00:22:33,140 --> 00:22:38,140 Stone Monarch says I only pirate music because even if I pay for it it gets removed 182 00:22:38,140 --> 00:22:43,140 I mean I think that's a bit of a rationalization Stone Monarch there's a there's a lot of music 183 00:22:43,140 --> 00:22:49,140 that doesn't get removed from subscription services I don't I don't think there's been like a mass 184 00:22:49,140 --> 00:22:55,140 removing event there certainly have been things that have been removed and that certainly is 185 00:22:55,140 --> 00:23:04,140 is a major downer I am I am like actively trying to buy a digital version of a particular album 186 00:23:04,140 --> 00:23:11,140 and I am not succeeding seriously I blink 182 album this I tried to make it a low-hanging 187 00:23:11,140 --> 00:23:16,140 that can't be that hard a digital version yeah it doesn't seem to be the easiest thing 188 00:23:16,140 --> 00:23:25,140 ever is this physical or digital audio CD nice solid literally literally solid it's solid 189 00:23:25,140 --> 00:23:31,140 the one on their actual store is an LP I looked up blink when I to on bandcamp right and they 190 00:23:31,140 --> 00:23:37,140 only have one album and it's Buddha which is like I don't think most people know that 191 00:23:37,140 --> 00:23:43,140 that album exists this is this is not like the easiest thing ever 192 00:23:52,140 --> 00:23:57,140 if I yeah yeah there's a website where I can find listings for it in CD vinyl and cassette 193 00:23:58,140 --> 00:24:05,140 forms but I can't find a digital version people are saying a couple random websites I'll try 194 00:24:05,140 --> 00:24:11,140 this one if this website is legit I'd really hope that it would come up in a search this is 195 00:24:11,140 --> 00:24:20,140 music streaming yeah okay download store okay I'll check I'll check so is the issue a service 196 00:24:21,140 --> 00:24:30,140 issue again oh wow float wow Floatplane chat is is is super active right now about this 197 00:24:30,140 --> 00:24:36,140 definitely a lot of opinions Ben 34 says I feel a lot less guilty pirating something if I support 198 00:24:36,140 --> 00:24:41,140 the person actively on social media I feel this is fine what do you think what does that mean 199 00:24:41,140 --> 00:24:47,140 well depends what you mean by supporting if like you press thumbs up once in a while on one of 200 00:24:47,140 --> 00:24:55,140 their tweets I would say that that does not count well listen my whole thing with piracy 201 00:24:55,140 --> 00:25:04,140 right is I've always said here's the impact you're gonna draw your own line what I can say 202 00:25:04,140 --> 00:25:12,140 is that the amount of money they would have made from you not pirating their stuff is substantially 203 00:25:12,140 --> 00:25:18,140 maybe even infinitely higher than what they're gonna make from you pressing thumbs up once 204 00:25:18,140 --> 00:25:26,140 in a while so you know if you're trying to if you're trying to find like a like a monetary 205 00:25:26,140 --> 00:25:33,140 support rationale then that's definitely not equivalent however you know if you're if you're 206 00:25:33,140 --> 00:25:38,140 drawing the line some other way then you know that's that's your line to draw but I would say 207 00:25:38,140 --> 00:25:45,140 they're not the same thing minor skills says I mean half the movies and shows I want to watch 208 00:25:45,140 --> 00:25:51,140 are not available anymore at all not in my country etc that's a that's a major one is like the 209 00:25:51,140 --> 00:25:59,140 whole regional licensing massive I think that's a huge driver for piracy there's a lot of this 210 00:25:59,140 --> 00:26:04,140 is one of the reasons why I basically refuse to subscribe to any of those services is somewhat 211 00:26:04,140 --> 00:26:09,140 somewhat in line with the person who said oh I might subscribe for a certain thing of music 212 00:26:09,140 --> 00:26:15,140 and then it's gone that's much more real in my opinion on the movies and TV show side of things 213 00:26:15,140 --> 00:26:22,140 yeah where you subscribe to a service and then I don't know the show some of the shows that you 214 00:26:22,140 --> 00:26:26,140 might have wanted might just disappear that's happened many times with things like Netflix 215 00:26:26,140 --> 00:26:32,140 clapped k-24 accord says I'll gladly buy a concert shirt when I'm seeing artists perform live 216 00:26:32,140 --> 00:26:36,140 if you aren't good enough for me to see live I don't feel the need to directly support you 217 00:26:36,140 --> 00:26:43,140 and then goes on to completely obliterate their own argument saying only exception is the 218 00:26:43,140 --> 00:26:49,140 tragically hip and other bands where members have died and disbanded right exactly or members 219 00:26:49,140 --> 00:26:55,140 where live performances are not practical because you know they they do a lot of post-processing 220 00:26:55,140 --> 00:27:01,140 on their music and that's you know is not conducive to performing live or maybe they have a health 221 00:27:01,140 --> 00:27:07,140 condition that makes it so that they can't perform live or you know there's a I think that's a 222 00:27:07,140 --> 00:27:14,140 I think that again not taking a stance on your stance but you took a stance on your stance 223 00:27:14,140 --> 00:27:20,140 you said this is my line by the way here's a giant hole in the line that I that I drew 224 00:27:20,140 --> 00:27:26,140 and that that was on you who did that not me 225 00:27:26,140 --> 00:27:33,140 music's good on shuffle videos and more yeah wow this is really really interesting 226 00:27:33,140 --> 00:27:40,140 okay the outlier says I pirate music music videos and movies however videos I have a 227 00:27:40,140 --> 00:27:46,140 Spotify account for actually listening to music and an offline backup in case it gets taken down 228 00:27:46,140 --> 00:27:51,140 so yeah like on a personal level I kind of like that I buy blue rays vinyls of content I love 229 00:27:51,140 --> 00:27:56,140 and I go and see many live shows and go to the theaters regularly so you are the outlier 230 00:27:56,140 --> 00:28:05,140 aren't you it's literally the username the outlier oh yeah okay I mean yeah it's it is very 231 00:28:05,140 --> 00:28:13,140 interesting to see how easy it was for any time I've ever talked about piracy for it to 232 00:28:13,140 --> 00:28:19,140 tick off a large percentage of the audience because reading through these comments and the 233 00:28:19,140 --> 00:28:23,140 conversations like this is about the fastest I think I can remember seeing Floatplane chat 234 00:28:23,140 --> 00:28:33,140 moving move yeah everybody has drawn not just like a line on a linear scale for like how much 235 00:28:33,140 --> 00:28:39,140 piracy is okay because there's all the different ways of piracy piracy aing there's all the 236 00:28:39,140 --> 00:28:45,140 different mediums that you can pirate there's all the different definitions of piracy I mean 237 00:28:45,140 --> 00:28:54,140 there's a lot of folks myself included who feel that piracy is circumvention of the of the 238 00:28:54,140 --> 00:29:00,140 of the payment of a media good like to me that was always kind of what it fundamentally boiled 239 00:29:00,140 --> 00:29:08,140 down to there are clearly folks who do not agree to them piracy requires it to be illegal 240 00:29:09,140 --> 00:29:16,140 explicitly that was and and I believe that is actually like dictionary definition yeah correct 241 00:29:16,140 --> 00:29:20,140 I think that's the reason why you switched to calling it privateering yes so it's like this 242 00:29:20,140 --> 00:29:25,140 whole it becomes like a whole spirit versus letter of the law sort of argument at that point 243 00:29:25,140 --> 00:29:34,140 which again to me has always been you know sort of sort of arbitrary but to a lot of people 244 00:29:34,140 --> 00:29:38,140 is a very important line that they draw for their own personal morality so that they don't 245 00:29:38,140 --> 00:29:47,140 have to wear a tricorn hat or something but yeah it's clear it's clear that y'all are okay 246 00:29:47,140 --> 00:29:55,140 man I keep getting new takes here ick see your face goes I'd never pirate fiction but non-fictional 247 00:29:55,140 --> 00:30:01,140 educational pretty much always I think that's also a pretty common line to be honest also really 248 00:30:01,140 --> 00:30:07,140 yeah I think so I mean explain it to me when you're on dude when you're on university 249 00:30:07,140 --> 00:30:14,140 campuses the the hats are on yeah sure the hats are firmly positioned I just a little bit 250 00:30:14,140 --> 00:30:17,140 on the older side because digital textbooks was not as much of a thing when I was in my 251 00:30:17,140 --> 00:30:22,140 first couple years barely creaking into being a thing when I was going to school I bought 252 00:30:22,140 --> 00:30:27,140 all my textbooks used people were that was a thing just about it and then I resold them 253 00:30:28,140 --> 00:30:36,140 in in some cases I definitely honestly do agree there are a lot of documented documented 254 00:30:36,140 --> 00:30:43,140 counts where people are bumping revisions of books for practically nothing where the 255 00:30:43,140 --> 00:30:48,140 author of the book is the teacher of the class and then bumping revisions to make you buy 256 00:30:48,140 --> 00:30:54,140 new ones and like all this yeah there is a lot of very obviously unfair play in the 257 00:30:54,140 --> 00:30:59,140 educational space and you know it's still not legal for that whole line thing that 258 00:30:59,140 --> 00:31:04,140 we're talking about right I can definitely understand why someone's line could be placed 259 00:31:04,140 --> 00:31:08,140 in a position where they're like I'm cool the pirate this I'm going to be okay with 260 00:31:08,140 --> 00:31:16,140 that because it's like you know you're you're spending a mind shattering amount on getting 261 00:31:17,140 --> 00:31:25,140 North American education and yeah 2024 study showed a huge number of student 262 00:31:25,140 --> 00:31:29,140 students pirate books and also share them around totally makes that zero zero says 263 00:31:29,140 --> 00:31:33,140 there's even some university lecturers who will send an email out saying don't use these 264 00:31:33,140 --> 00:31:38,140 websites yeah these ones this is a thing that has actually also happened many times 265 00:31:38,140 --> 00:31:43,140 make it easier for them to find them yeah like it's it's it's tough because think 266 00:31:43,140 --> 00:31:48,140 think of how many scenarios you are required to buy a book 267 00:31:48,140 --> 00:31:54,140 clapped k-24 Accord says I proudly pirated the Canadian electrical code if safety is 268 00:31:54,140 --> 00:32:02,140 that important I ain't paying $300 on it get wrecked yeah people have their own line right 269 00:32:02,140 --> 00:32:09,140 I could see there being certain educational books that I would feel really bad about 270 00:32:09,140 --> 00:32:14,140 pirating yeah and I could see there being certain educational books where I'd be like 271 00:32:14,140 --> 00:32:22,140 download like I don't know I think it really depends on the the one specifically for me 272 00:32:22,140 --> 00:32:28,140 yeah and I can be the biggest takeaway here is that literally no two people sitting next 273 00:32:28,140 --> 00:32:33,140 to each other in a room could possibly agree a hundred percent on what's okay and what's 274 00:32:33,140 --> 00:32:40,140 not okay to pirate yeah unless they were absolutists unless they were literally sith 275 00:32:40,140 --> 00:32:47,140 yeah yeah only a sith speaks in absolutes literally nothing is okay or literally everything 276 00:32:47,140 --> 00:32:52,140 which there are people in both camps yeah there there are there are people I do wonder 277 00:32:52,140 --> 00:32:56,140 as many of them in this conversation right now in this chat but there are people I do 278 00:32:56,140 --> 00:33:02,140 wonder if eventually you could poke a hole in most of those people's belief system though 279 00:33:02,140 --> 00:33:08,140 simply by bringing it back around to something that that they work on because it's amazing 280 00:33:08,140 --> 00:33:15,140 how quickly you can do that where you kind of go okay but what if what if they pirated 281 00:33:15,140 --> 00:33:19,140 you know this thing that you create you know what if some but what if somebody didn't pay 282 00:33:19,140 --> 00:33:25,140 you for your work and they'll be like well obviously you know that's an exception because 283 00:33:25,140 --> 00:33:30,140 there's I know there's a oh I hope I don't misrepresent their argument but I know there's 284 00:33:30,140 --> 00:33:37,140 a group of people where it's all information should be free at all times and it just that's 285 00:33:37,140 --> 00:33:43,140 their line and they don't care if they make it or not make it yeah if they're creating 286 00:33:43,140 --> 00:33:51,140 information whatever that might be oh I do believe that for there are a significant number 287 00:33:51,140 --> 00:33:57,140 of people that at the actually walk that walk oh yeah but also most of the people who say 288 00:33:57,140 --> 00:34:03,140 they do I have not found that they actually do I know I've met people that do but I think 289 00:34:03,140 --> 00:34:07,140 I would agree with you on that one where a lot of people hear that and be like oh that sounds 290 00:34:07,140 --> 00:34:12,140 cool and then not actually like really think about the consequences while there are definitely 291 00:34:12,140 --> 00:34:16,140 people that have thought about the consequences and are just like yep totally I'm going to 292 00:34:16,140 --> 00:34:19,140 contribute to open source stuff we're going to do all these other things yeah I'm going to 293 00:34:19,140 --> 00:34:26,140 absolutely walk this walk and it just it is it is what it is is there a man oh how do we 294 00:34:26,140 --> 00:34:33,140 because like for software yeah you know open source is like the you know the solution like 295 00:34:33,140 --> 00:34:41,140 but I don't I don't think there's like an open source you know music open source movies 296 00:34:41,140 --> 00:34:45,140 solution you kind of get where I'm where I'm going with this like if you were if you're 297 00:34:45,140 --> 00:34:50,140 someone who believes fundamentally that software should all be free then there's like there's 298 00:34:50,140 --> 00:34:55,140 a path so they're just to all software being free it's kind of it's been kind of laid out 299 00:34:55,140 --> 00:35:00,140 we just have to we have to do it whereas like movies I don't I don't think there's a path 300 00:35:00,140 --> 00:35:05,140 to movies being free I don't know there's people that have started putting things up I know this 301 00:35:05,140 --> 00:35:10,140 this is a line that's going to get really interesting really fast but there's people that 302 00:35:10,140 --> 00:35:14,140 have been putting up people saying oh yeah public libraries it's a good one Creative Commons 303 00:35:14,140 --> 00:35:19,140 but how do you distribute well I think who's going to make them that that's more the issue 304 00:35:19,140 --> 00:35:24,140 like with with open source I think we've kind of solved the who's going to make it issue 305 00:35:24,140 --> 00:35:29,140 and we've solved how they're going to get paid it's going to be through support contracts 306 00:35:29,140 --> 00:35:34,140 major companies all right so that's how we're doing this and then but on the movie side 307 00:35:34,140 --> 00:35:39,140 who will make them and how will they be paid I don't I don't see yeah this is some people 308 00:35:39,140 --> 00:35:42,140 in chat are already saying the thing that I've been thinking about and this is going to 309 00:35:42,140 --> 00:35:47,140 become an interesting conversation fast like I just said previously but YouTube there's 310 00:35:48,140 --> 00:35:53,140 I don't remember it but there's a YouTube documentary that went up and did really well 311 00:35:53,140 --> 00:36:00,140 and they got approached by a few different larger companies including Netflix and some 312 00:36:00,140 --> 00:36:04,140 other ones to take that documentary make it exclusive to their paid subscription platform 313 00:36:04,140 --> 00:36:09,140 and they said no the reason why they said no was because they thought they would have 314 00:36:09,140 --> 00:36:16,140 better flexibility and potentially financials by staying on YouTube because of I think it 315 00:36:16,140 --> 00:36:23,140 was a great feature on interesting so it was crowdfunding what are we going to do how do 316 00:36:23,140 --> 00:36:30,140 you how do you start you have to you have to start in that realm by by design like from 317 00:36:30,140 --> 00:36:37,140 the yeah and it's tough and it's and I do man there was a people stay subscribed for 318 00:36:37,140 --> 00:36:41,140 the three years it takes you to make your next documentary that's I think that's tough 319 00:36:41,140 --> 00:36:47,140 it's very tough and and we'll you will YouTube continue to inchify to the point where it's 320 00:36:47,140 --> 00:36:53,140 it's it's going to become a major problem like like I I came across a really interesting 321 00:36:53,140 --> 00:37:02,140 thread on the LTT subreddit this week just about how crap YouTube's getting and we actually 322 00:37:02,140 --> 00:37:09,140 we did this last week but I think it bears doing again this is my YouTube homepage there 323 00:37:09,140 --> 00:37:16,140 is yeah an ad live stream live stream two live streams five shorts a row of shorts which 324 00:37:16,140 --> 00:37:23,140 like don't if they don't even autoplay the whole thing they just stop you have to click 325 00:37:23,140 --> 00:37:32,140 them you have it's it's by design you know it's by design then we get what another live stream 326 00:37:32,140 --> 00:37:43,140 an ad a vaude the first vaude oh my god YouTube playables these ai slop garbage games so out 327 00:37:43,140 --> 00:37:53,140 of my first two pages so I'm below the fold already one vaude it is I will say it is 328 00:37:53,140 --> 00:37:58,140 kind of somewhat based YouTube that the one vaude that you got is like a really small 329 00:37:58,140 --> 00:38:02,140 video because part of YouTube is discoverability and all that kind of stuff but it's it's one 330 00:38:02,140 --> 00:38:07,140 why is it why is it one okay let's keep going I mean I haven't I haven't prepped this right 331 00:38:07,140 --> 00:38:14,140 below the fold again okay here we go a Boston Dynamics video that's pretty popular Jurassic 332 00:38:14,140 --> 00:38:19,140 Park but with a cat a ShortCircuit video okay we got three vots another row of shorts 333 00:38:19,140 --> 00:38:27,140 another live stream another live stream another ad a 10 year old video from what 13 years 334 00:38:27,140 --> 00:38:32,140 old but yeah sure who's counting we got electro boom in here okay so we get a few vots another 335 00:38:32,140 --> 00:38:36,140 live stream another fireplace please tell me that's not the same fireplace no it's a different 336 00:38:36,140 --> 00:38:40,140 fireplace sorry one second can we look at that video real quick Virginia traffic attorney 337 00:38:40,140 --> 00:38:47,140 Luke J. Nichols dot MOV from 13 years ago I mean it's got four and a half million views 338 00:38:47,140 --> 00:38:51,140 oh it's an ad it must have been used as an ad this is he's just talking about his practice 339 00:38:51,140 --> 00:38:57,140 totally it must have so it's just an ad and it like it probably was an ad at some point 340 00:38:57,140 --> 00:39:03,140 it probably isn't an ad anymore because there's no way yeah this is clearly not parody though 341 00:39:03,140 --> 00:39:10,140 this is an actual ad for Virginia traffic attorney Luke J. Nichols dynamo v am I missing 342 00:39:10,140 --> 00:39:16,140 something here okay now I'm clicking it I must be missing something here I don't know 343 00:39:16,140 --> 00:39:20,140 how I found this video but I didn't expect to see outdoor boys your new job is way cooler 344 00:39:20,140 --> 00:39:24,140 than a traffic attorney wait that's outdoor boys okay that makes sense why they got so 345 00:39:24,140 --> 00:39:32,140 many views that is totally him what the heck okay got it I didn't recognize the name immediately 346 00:39:32,140 --> 00:39:39,140 that is incredibly random hilarious so what happens if I call this number you know let's 347 00:39:39,140 --> 00:39:46,140 not do that yeah that's not necessary we're not that kind of show but so how much farther 348 00:39:46,140 --> 00:39:50,140 and then this was sort of the conversation that some people were we're trying to have 349 00:39:50,140 --> 00:39:57,140 in the reddit thread but like how much more in verification is there for YouTube to go 350 00:39:57,140 --> 00:40:04,140 through I mean I do feel like this whole AI slop game thing might be the jump the shark 351 00:40:04,140 --> 00:40:10,140 moment it feels like it to me I think I rented about this last week but yeah YouTube really 352 00:40:10,140 --> 00:40:18,140 had to find their way I'm I am genuinely rather terrified because that was the answer right 353 00:40:18,140 --> 00:40:23,140 like that was the communities and your answer to how we're going to not have everything 354 00:40:23,140 --> 00:40:27,140 be major studio funded and we're going to have like indie be possible the answer is 355 00:40:27,140 --> 00:40:35,140 YouTube has been the bastion yes they've been the way for for small projects to survive 356 00:40:35,140 --> 00:40:40,140 and and fund themselves you know off platform on Patreon or even through YouTube directly 357 00:40:40,140 --> 00:40:50,140 but how is Vaude supposed to survive on YouTube when literally AI slop games are given better 358 00:40:50,140 --> 00:40:56,140 billing in the first two pages of the site then significantly better than Vaude videos 359 00:40:56,140 --> 00:41:02,140 yeah and when I say Vaude I don't mean that you know a lot of this other stuff isn't also 360 00:41:02,140 --> 00:41:07,140 technically video on demand but that's the way that YouTube refers to it is there's shorts 361 00:41:07,140 --> 00:41:14,140 there's Vaude's there's live so so Vaude that's like your traditional you know 16 by 9 362 00:41:14,140 --> 00:41:21,140 YouTube upload that's meant to be watched on a on a screen that isn't vertical and isn't 363 00:41:21,140 --> 00:41:30,140 meant to be like you know played a game on AI slop junk and I don't know and obviously 364 00:41:30,140 --> 00:41:36,140 this you know affects me personally right because that's the majority of Linus media 365 00:41:36,140 --> 00:41:43,140 groups work is is Vaude and even though we do dabble in shorts I can tell you now that 366 00:41:43,140 --> 00:41:48,140 unless you're selling something through your shorts there's not there's not a sustainable 367 00:41:48,140 --> 00:41:52,140 amount of money to be made not at any kind of scale like I think as an individual person 368 00:41:52,140 --> 00:41:57,140 you could survive on shorts just kind of filming yourself or maybe even a couple people a few 369 00:41:57,140 --> 00:42:01,140 people small team but beyond that you're going to need to start to seek sponsorships you're 370 00:42:01,140 --> 00:42:08,140 going to need to start to sell something ran into a really cool shorts creator who became 371 00:42:08,140 --> 00:42:13,140 a shorts creator because of his like frozen dessert business as opposed to yeah there's 372 00:42:13,140 --> 00:42:20,140 a bunch of that around it's weird but yeah yeah we're like the ads we've the ads have 373 00:42:20,140 --> 00:42:26,140 become the content which is sort of wild that part's very interesting hey I think people 374 00:42:26,140 --> 00:42:31,140 I think there's some people out there who would make the same argument about us yeah it's 375 00:42:31,140 --> 00:42:37,140 it's that's again where your line is because some people see certain types of content as 376 00:42:37,140 --> 00:42:44,140 ads it also depends on their necessarily perception right like there is stuff that we do that I 377 00:42:44,140 --> 00:42:51,140 would say classified it could be classified as as advertisement like fully like we did 378 00:42:51,140 --> 00:42:55,140 a fully sponsored short on these like wave generator things we just put them in my hot tub 379 00:42:55,140 --> 00:42:59,140 and turned it into a whirlpool yeah no I mean we do actually really fair amount of things 380 00:42:59,140 --> 00:43:03,140 that are that are effectively ads we try to make them entertaining but they're effectively 381 00:43:03,140 --> 00:43:07,140 ads but there's a lot of people who consider like you know anything that we do building 382 00:43:07,140 --> 00:43:11,140 a computer to be an ad simply because those are things you can buy and it's like well 383 00:43:11,140 --> 00:43:22,140 no that's not actually how that works either line gets funky all right but my like I'm 384 00:43:22,140 --> 00:43:26,140 terrified for what's happening to YouTube thing actually has nothing to do with like 385 00:43:26,140 --> 00:43:33,140 my job or this place it's entirely just that like I don't know there's comments in 386 00:43:33,140 --> 00:43:37,140 in full plane chat of like oh YouTube YouTube can definitely I can't remember where it was 387 00:43:37,140 --> 00:43:41,140 I'm not going to find it sorry but YouTube can definitely get worse they've proven that 388 00:43:41,140 --> 00:43:46,140 before it's like yeah man I don't know I'm definitely on the like let's dog on YouTube 389 00:43:46,140 --> 00:43:53,140 chain I guess yeah but like I mean it's also pretty amazing and yeah there really isn't 390 00:43:53,140 --> 00:43:57,140 anything else there out there like it and I really don't think it's going to happen 391 00:43:57,140 --> 00:44:02,140 if YouTube goes down we're not going to get this back again you look at the incumbents 392 00:44:02,140 --> 00:44:08,140 what are they doing yeah just worse things than what YouTube's doing yeah and that's 393 00:44:08,140 --> 00:44:14,140 and that was with YouTube to be there as a guiding star and show them how to create a 394 00:44:14,140 --> 00:44:21,140 creator economy company like Twitter talked a good game for a while about you know more 395 00:44:21,140 --> 00:44:26,140 revenue sharing with creators and and this and that and then I think eventually their 396 00:44:26,140 --> 00:44:33,140 leadership figured out or that that's not happening or got distracted by something 397 00:44:33,140 --> 00:44:41,140 tick-tock I don't think bite dance has any intention of ever having a revenue sharing 398 00:44:41,140 --> 00:44:48,140 model like YouTube introduced I don't which has revenue sharing like pretty pretty decent 399 00:44:48,140 --> 00:44:53,140 revenue sharing I'd say that's like the other platform where creators can realistically 400 00:44:53,140 --> 00:45:00,140 like make enough money to sustain teams to build companies like come on are we talking 401 00:45:00,140 --> 00:45:05,140 about which being better than YouTube in 2026 oh no but this is my point though like and 402 00:45:05,140 --> 00:45:10,140 they've abandoned Vaude so Vaude is pretty functionally completely abandoned on Twitch 403 00:45:10,140 --> 00:45:18,140 I've had people who don't understand what Floatplane is say oh this is float planes 404 00:45:18,140 --> 00:45:25,140 opportunity no it is not we're not doing that it's not happening that will literally never 405 00:45:25,140 --> 00:45:31,140 happen it will never ever happen the only reason that YouTube works is because it operates 406 00:45:31,140 --> 00:45:39,140 at such a colossal scale that no amount of you know what Floatplane team super talented 407 00:45:39,140 --> 00:45:45,140 amazing leadership great job thanks man Peters and Peters in full plane chat right now 408 00:45:45,140 --> 00:45:52,140 saying yeah please no yeah we're good we're not doing that but a project of that scale 409 00:45:52,140 --> 00:45:57,140 no matter how I will say it right now and I don't mean this to be offensive to the float 410 00:45:57,140 --> 00:46:03,140 plane team in any way no no amount of venture capital money would make that viable but that 411 00:46:03,140 --> 00:46:09,140 has been proven already like if anyone was gonna do it it was basically gonna be Amazon 412 00:46:09,140 --> 00:46:15,140 yeah with adding Vaude to Twitch and then yeah they don't work there anymore it's probably 413 00:46:15,140 --> 00:46:20,140 fine I'm not gonna name them but I have talked to Twitch people who during that segment of 414 00:46:20,140 --> 00:46:27,140 time were like we are going to lose we were never going to win this is a failed idea their 415 00:46:27,140 --> 00:46:32,140 moat is astronomically bigger than everyone thinks and no one will ever touch YouTube 416 00:46:32,140 --> 00:46:38,140 and that like almost it's been too many years to say that verbatim but like it's close like 417 00:46:38,140 --> 00:46:44,140 they there was there's no chance and that's still kind of true unless they remove the 418 00:46:44,140 --> 00:46:52,140 moat themselves the only real rocket on it they're cooking inside the building and my 419 00:46:52,140 --> 00:46:56,140 my concern is that threat inside the building is too much you sound scared I am kind of 420 00:46:56,140 --> 00:47:04,140 scared the like the future of online knowledge sharing with YouTube brought into its core 421 00:47:04,140 --> 00:47:11,140 is dark like I you look at like so many different ways and there's some there's people talking 422 00:47:11,140 --> 00:47:16,140 about how they're there stopping using social media and all these different things are 423 00:47:16,140 --> 00:47:21,140 happening and like there's there's goodness in that but the sad part of that is that 424 00:47:21,140 --> 00:47:34,140 YouTube was often take that dear God the call is coming from inside the house because 425 00:47:34,140 --> 00:47:38,140 YouTube threat from yeah it's pretty good that's pretty good I was so confused looking 426 00:47:38,140 --> 00:47:49,140 at my phone is like did you get spoofed or something yeah it's okay all right gravity 427 00:47:49,140 --> 00:47:56,140 cube asks it's just concerning but why is it not feasible I understand money but what is 428 00:47:56,140 --> 00:48:06,140 the part that is so expensive okay so uploading for free is fucking insane for one thing that's 429 00:48:06,140 --> 00:48:13,140 that's the start like the whole uploading for free only made sense at the beginning because 430 00:48:13,140 --> 00:48:22,140 investment funding burning money user acquisition period it was it was the mid 2000s slash sort 431 00:48:22,140 --> 00:48:30,140 of late 2000s and I mean even well into the 2010s that was the Silicon Valley model you 432 00:48:30,140 --> 00:48:37,140 just burned investor money and then you acquired many many many many users and then usually 433 00:48:37,140 --> 00:48:43,140 you exited to a much larger company who figured out how to make money off of it eventually 434 00:48:43,140 --> 00:48:51,140 or just kind of didn't and continued to burn money and just acquire users see twitch as 435 00:48:51,140 --> 00:48:59,140 an example that was just the model but what happened to the vast majority of other you 436 00:48:59,140 --> 00:49:06,140 know free to use free to upload free to download services like you know let's let's look at 437 00:49:06,140 --> 00:49:11,140 Dropbox as an example Dropbox you know made no sense how much they were giving away for 438 00:49:11,140 --> 00:49:17,140 free in the early days eventually they had to look at it and go oh my god this doesn't 439 00:49:17,140 --> 00:49:23,140 make any sense and they had to build like a viable business model yeah and now Dropbox 440 00:49:23,140 --> 00:49:31,140 is popularity is they were like dude they were like basically everywhere yeah cloud storage 441 00:49:31,140 --> 00:49:36,140 yeah at the time you know in the early days and now it's like yeah Dropbox I don't know 442 00:49:36,140 --> 00:49:43,140 what did you did you fail to pay do you know did you get cut off by let's see you know Google 443 00:49:43,140 --> 00:49:51,140 one it is one drive interesting that they're I cloud their tagline is registered users 444 00:49:51,140 --> 00:50:03,140 I believe it so like that whole that whole model never made any sense except YouTube 445 00:50:03,140 --> 00:50:09,140 YouTube has somehow has somehow made it work so we would have to find and the somehow right 446 00:50:09,140 --> 00:50:16,140 is they got bought by Google who continued to throw money into the money furnace until 447 00:50:16,140 --> 00:50:23,140 such point as they were able to extract enough data that they were able to leverage it to 448 00:50:23,140 --> 00:50:29,140 make enough on that data that they were able to turn it into a self-sustaining machine 449 00:50:29,140 --> 00:50:47,140 without the deep deep deep ad business that Google has without the way that they leverage user data 450 00:50:47,140 --> 00:50:54,140 to make money in their advertising business I just don't see how it could be done and you can look 451 00:50:54,140 --> 00:51:00,140 at other examples of of strong advertising companies I'd say Facebook would probably be 452 00:51:00,140 --> 00:51:10,140 the closest thing at this point Meta Meta tried and I don't think Vaude has ever really taken 453 00:51:10,140 --> 00:51:17,140 off on Meta short form they have a lot form for sure but Meta's model is also so different 454 00:51:17,140 --> 00:51:24,140 like you I know like literally one creator that does well on Facebook Vaude and and I know there 455 00:51:24,140 --> 00:51:29,140 are some other creators that do they have some demographics but it's really it's not YouTube 456 00:51:29,140 --> 00:51:34,140 and it's very very very far from being YouTube and then the other side of it so Google figured out 457 00:51:34,140 --> 00:51:40,140 how to bring in enough revenue to make it make sense but then they also had to figure out how to scale 458 00:51:40,140 --> 00:51:45,140 up their infrastructure to make it affordable and I don't know if you guys have noticed this 459 00:51:45,140 --> 00:51:54,140 but Moore's law and like the way that storage you know costs per terabyte are going like it 460 00:51:54,140 --> 00:52:01,140 you can't just count on your next data center to be twice as fast have twice as much storage 461 00:52:01,140 --> 00:52:09,140 and cost half as much as the last one you built anymore the the large scale corporate entities 462 00:52:09,140 --> 00:52:16,140 are up against the exact same challenges that we are when we go to build a new gaming PC 463 00:52:16,140 --> 00:52:25,140 and realize oh my god this thing like costs the same or more is not that much faster than my old one 464 00:52:25,140 --> 00:52:29,140 you know what maybe I'll just keep my five-year-old gaming PC because realistically a five-year-old 465 00:52:29,140 --> 00:52:35,140 gaming PC today is still going to play anything you'd want to play and you have it already 466 00:52:36,140 --> 00:52:41,140 you don't have to you don't have to buy a new one I mean they have oh man they have when when you're 467 00:52:41,140 --> 00:52:46,140 operating at that scale your power and your cooling become major concerns and you might have to upgrade 468 00:52:46,140 --> 00:52:51,140 just from like an efficiency standpoint but in terms of like performance and especially storage 469 00:52:51,140 --> 00:52:58,140 we did a video a while back that was I forget exactly what we called it but it basically laid out the case 470 00:52:58,140 --> 00:53:06,140 for why oh what was it YouTube made a made a controversial move it was something to do with 471 00:53:06,140 --> 00:53:13,140 YouTube premium is this the skip ad thing no I think it was like resolution I think it was the 472 00:53:13,140 --> 00:53:18,140 resolution thing like why 4k should be a premium feature something like that yeah thank you 473 00:53:18,140 --> 00:53:27,140 in Floatplane chat where we basically showed how how the cost per gig of storage used to go down 474 00:53:27,140 --> 00:53:36,140 very rapidly very rapidly god rapidly and then just like stopped yeah and meanwhile more and more 475 00:53:36,140 --> 00:53:43,140 people are carrying around 4k video cameras in their pockets all while the storage doesn't get cheaper 476 00:53:43,140 --> 00:53:50,140 the way that it used to so the only way to make it affordable is to just what I don't know there's 477 00:53:50,140 --> 00:53:58,140 no magic it's not like Google gets magic hard drives that don't cost money yeah so apparently 478 00:53:58,140 --> 00:54:03,140 the answer is this 479 00:54:03,140 --> 00:54:18,140 all right oh my god now that I've watched one video yeah now now all wow this is 480 00:54:18,140 --> 00:54:34,140 crazy amazing huh YouTube playables wow I'm sure glad this exists 48 million plays with that said I 481 00:54:34,140 --> 00:54:41,140 don't know you know no one has ever known what does number means yeah we all kind of trust YouTube to 482 00:54:41,140 --> 00:54:49,140 be somewhat consistent in their application of that number whether it's views or streams or plays 483 00:54:49,140 --> 00:54:59,140 but I actually sent them an email to my to my rep the other day that I you know I was really 484 00:54:59,140 --> 00:55:06,140 confused by let me see if I can find it yeah here it is so let me let me fire this let me fire this 485 00:55:06,140 --> 00:55:19,140 over to you Dan share nice noise oh my god where's teams in my share menu why is it not here 486 00:55:19,140 --> 00:55:24,140 oh they changed the icon recently that's right there it is just once why would I want to always share to 487 00:55:24,140 --> 00:55:32,140 the same app just stupid interface thing I am finally daily in the fold seven just in time for the 488 00:55:32,140 --> 00:55:42,140 triple to come out and I absolutely love it so far that it definitely has some issues but it's pretty awesome 489 00:55:42,140 --> 00:55:49,140 this is terrible what's up maybe it's better on a phone I'm trying to play one of these I'm trying to play 490 00:55:49,140 --> 00:55:57,140 that game that had 48 million plays oh here sure oh it's like so all of your movement it's interesting 491 00:55:57,140 --> 00:56:02,140 this works on YouTube but all of your movement is I see my mouse there's this like touch pad 492 00:56:02,140 --> 00:56:07,140 spot which is it means you know it's almost certainly just made for a mobile phone so that's 493 00:56:07,140 --> 00:56:15,140 probably a big part of the problem but I am a unhearable ninja as far as I can tell I get cash 494 00:56:15,140 --> 00:56:24,140 immediately this probably counts as another play clicking next level yeah yeah probably I can get 495 00:56:24,140 --> 00:56:32,140 firearms I don't have enough money for any of this cool good game design they can't hear me so I just 496 00:56:32,140 --> 00:56:37,140 walk near them and they get shanked even if they see me for a second doesn't really matter I could probably 497 00:56:37,140 --> 00:56:44,140 just speedrun all this by just running into them wow I did it this is the game why has this been played 498 00:56:44,140 --> 00:56:48,140 48 million times I do suspect it's because every single time you load a level it's probably counts as the 499 00:56:48,140 --> 00:56:55,140 game being played again well that's the thing is like how how do things count do do do do do do do do do 500 00:56:56,140 --> 00:57:04,140 no all right sweet okay I think that's probably enough of that sure so I so I sent this screenshot 501 00:57:04,140 --> 00:57:11,140 yep go ahead down over to my YouTube rep and I was basically like okay I'm trying to understand what's 502 00:57:11,140 --> 00:57:19,140 going on here it seems like this brand is buying views against this video so you can actually see it 503 00:57:19,140 --> 00:57:25,140 on the left there that's my my left circle I hadn't switched to a fold phone yet so this was 504 00:57:25,140 --> 00:57:30,140 the interface I was dealing with and I wanted to send just one screenshot because I don't know 505 00:57:30,140 --> 00:57:37,140 whatever I did so on the left you can see the stair step of where the brand like ran an advertising 506 00:57:37,140 --> 00:57:48,140 campaign to buy views for this video right yeah so it got a lot of views but you can see the watch time 507 00:57:49,140 --> 00:57:59,140 is relatively tanked basically negligible like not just not just doesn't track in lockstep with the 508 00:57:59,140 --> 00:58:07,140 views because I would fully expect that a purchased view a viewer might not stick around for as long 509 00:58:07,140 --> 00:58:12,140 right as someone who they might stick around for five seconds comes across the content organically right 510 00:58:12,140 --> 00:58:22,140 oh okay well she should message me then I didn't get a message from her 511 00:58:22,140 --> 00:58:29,140 sorry to interrupt yeah yeah no all good okay 512 00:58:29,140 --> 00:58:36,140 well okay no right right right right right no I know how that one works I can just send that to her 513 00:58:36,140 --> 00:58:46,140 okay fine I'm doing it I'm doing it I'm doing it now yeah no she did she did not message me 514 00:58:46,140 --> 00:58:54,140 so I don't know there I sent it so basically my my so my question to the YouTube rep was like look 515 00:58:54,140 --> 00:59:00,140 I understand that how a view is counted is sort of the secret sauce YouTube doesn't share the criteria 516 00:59:01,140 --> 00:59:07,140 but is it maybe possible for me to at least understand how something like this can happen 517 00:59:07,140 --> 00:59:16,140 curiously there's been a small uptick in subscribers that seems to correspond to the the campaign 518 00:59:16,140 --> 00:59:26,140 that's being run really how do you get new views new subscribers but functionally zero new watch time 519 00:59:27,140 --> 00:59:34,140 hi Linus just getting back to you 520 00:59:34,140 --> 00:59:40,140 yep since they're running it as an ad it's not surprising people will be watching for far shorter than usual 521 00:59:40,140 --> 00:59:48,140 and I said yeah I get that I'm just wondering why that quality you can take it away done why that quality 522 00:59:48,140 --> 00:59:56,140 is as a view it would seem like you know organically if people were finding this organically 523 01:00:04,140 --> 01:00:13,140 but what is very clear to me is that view that doesn't necessarily have a set definition 524 01:00:14,140 --> 01:00:22,140 because I cannot I don't think I've ever in my 18 years of uploading to YouTube ever seen a video 525 01:00:22,140 --> 01:00:27,140 it's very strange that tracked that far off for watch time and for views 526 01:00:27,140 --> 01:00:35,140 which is clearly just people clicking skip ad clearly yeah like very clearly yeah but at the end of the day 527 01:00:35,140 --> 01:00:41,140 right I noticed this as well by the way I was trying to talk to somebody about how viewership on YouTube is 528 01:00:41,140 --> 01:00:47,140 like it like mind-blowingly spiky these days and how sometimes it's kind of surprising because I thought that video 529 01:00:47,140 --> 01:00:53,140 was pretty good and I went to bring up that video as an example and I was like whoa okay I was trying to point out 530 01:00:53,140 --> 01:00:58,140 that it had lower than views and I would expect and I was like what the heck so I went on this huge tangent 531 01:00:58,140 --> 01:01:01,140 where I was like bring up the dashboard trying to figure out what the heck was going on and then I saw those charts 532 01:01:01,140 --> 01:01:08,140 and was just like okay well it's pretty obvious what happened yeah but nobody actually watched it except a few people 533 01:01:08,140 --> 01:01:15,140 did because they subscribed to the channel unless there's like whole bot networks snake eating its own tail 534 01:01:15,140 --> 01:01:23,140 kind of that will watch that will go out of their way to watch ads and then subscribe or something 535 01:01:23,140 --> 01:01:26,140 bot network views this feels like it was YouTube ad views 536 01:01:26,140 --> 01:01:36,140 oh that I don't know probably but no what I'm saying is no no what if there's bot networks that are designed to watch the ad content 537 01:01:37,140 --> 01:01:44,140 and subscribe to it to seem like legitimate users so that those bot accounts can be reused later or whatever like I could 538 01:01:44,140 --> 01:01:49,140 yeah like they're just farming new bot accounts or something I look I don't I don't 539 01:01:49,140 --> 01:01:54,140 piggybacking on a system that exists to try to legitimize themselves in some way interesting 540 01:01:54,140 --> 01:02:03,140 and you know what it's not the most egregious sort of abuse of of metrics to make advertisers feel like they're getting 541 01:02:03,140 --> 01:02:10,140 something for their money that I've ever seen I remember my old boss at NCIX not Taren not the owner of the company 542 01:02:10,140 --> 01:02:19,140 Jack I remember him explaining to me how magazines and newspapers managed to sell their advertising for so much money 543 01:02:19,140 --> 01:02:26,140 and it blew my mind at the time because you know to me a techie guy for whom one megahertz is one megahertz 544 01:02:26,140 --> 01:02:39,140 and nothing more nothing less right to have something so emotional be sold and then bought by somebody was just inconceivable right 545 01:02:39,140 --> 01:02:47,140 but he's like yeah so you got to understand that on the internet you know an ad view is an ad view by and large 546 01:02:47,140 --> 01:02:55,140 but with magazines they would actually have like a multiplier so first they would assume that every single magazine that was sold 547 01:02:55,140 --> 01:03:01,140 to a person who viewed every single ad in it but then they assume it's left on a coffee table or whatever else oh my god 548 01:03:01,140 --> 01:03:12,140 and I think the multiplier you know depending on the yeah depending on the the the publication could be 2x or even 5x 549 01:03:12,140 --> 01:03:19,140 and these are just like assumptions that would be kind of like hidden in the in the footnotes of the sales deck but that's wild 550 01:03:19,140 --> 01:03:27,140 yeah right to a certain limited degree sure but it's there's no way it's as high as they were saying 551 01:03:27,140 --> 01:03:33,140 no I mean it's no way it was even one yeah like if we're being real like what what happened to an unsold magazine 552 01:03:33,140 --> 01:03:39,140 it didn't get read by three people come on also not every single thing in the entire magazine is read 553 01:03:39,140 --> 01:03:47,140 and back when magazines were a thing it was very common to be like oh yeah I read front page and page eight and that's it every time 554 01:03:47,140 --> 01:03:55,140 I don't read anything else so actually back in those days I didn't know that many people that would read the whole thing 555 01:03:55,140 --> 01:04:04,140 I don't think I knew anybody so anyways I mean there are certain magazines that the articles were the only thing that I was interested in 556 01:04:04,140 --> 01:04:15,140 mm-hmm mm-hmm for sure yes it's important to note as well everything else was unnecessary filler mm-hmm and I would 557 01:04:15,140 --> 01:04:23,140 I would sometimes there was filler on them and I would make sure I would check every page I would check every page to verify 558 01:04:23,140 --> 01:04:29,140 if it was in fact filler and and I would look closely to be sure that I knew that it was certainly filler 559 01:04:29,140 --> 01:04:42,140 sometimes I might spend more time on those pages verifying that they were filler yes yes 560 01:04:42,140 --> 01:04:52,140 anyways topic to the RAM shortage oh is here to stay likely resulting in raised prices on PCs and phones 561 01:04:52,140 --> 01:05:02,140 ah yes thank you International Data Corporation IDC for verifying what everyone else I think has known for a while 562 01:05:03,140 --> 01:05:10,140 IDC market analysis finds that because memory makers like Micron, Samsung and SK Hynex are shifting supply to AI data center 563 01:05:10,140 --> 01:05:16,140 stock is tightening for everyday devices and companies that compete on low price with budget products are getting hit hardest 564 01:05:16,140 --> 01:05:26,140 and are responding by raising prices or cutting features Apple and Samsung have secured their supply early as if that's going to stop them from raising prices 565 01:05:26,140 --> 01:05:34,140 but PC makers like Dell, HP, Acer, etc. are already signaling price increases as memory costs climb 566 01:05:34,140 --> 01:05:41,140 so yes it's another ramp up rampocalypse topic but there are a couple of new things that 567 01:05:41,140 --> 01:05:50,140 that make this not like what we've seen before 568 01:05:50,140 --> 01:05:57,140 so first something that we have seen before Valve discontinued the least expensive Steam Deck 569 01:05:57,140 --> 01:06:04,140 this was the $400 LCD model that was sometimes on sale for as little as $350 570 01:06:04,140 --> 01:06:11,140 it has been quietly discontinued and quietly all of the remaining stock was snapped up 571 01:06:11,140 --> 01:06:17,140 so now the cheapest Steam Deck I believe is the OLED 572 01:06:17,140 --> 01:06:25,140 hold on a second I'm trying to find it uh oh my search here is not fine is it in the dockered oh yeah here it is 573 01:06:25,140 --> 01:06:35,140 so now the most affordable option is the 512 gig OLED version for $550 574 01:06:36,140 --> 01:06:47,140 oh man the Steam Deck was so the affordability of the Steam Deck was such a game changer 575 01:06:47,140 --> 01:06:55,140 like for PC gaming and to be clear I have hope that affordable Steam Deck will return 576 01:06:55,140 --> 01:07:01,140 it's just that you can't do anything about your supplier cost 577 01:07:02,140 --> 01:07:06,140 and I don't think it's fair to I don't think Valve wants to do this at all 578 01:07:06,140 --> 01:07:13,140 I don't think it's fair yeah exactly to be mad at Valve over their incoming supply 579 01:07:13,140 --> 01:07:17,140 over their sourcing costs going up a lot 580 01:07:17,140 --> 01:07:21,140 to be clear I like to often point out their 30% take 581 01:07:21,140 --> 01:07:25,140 and how they're not quite the benevolent gods 582 01:07:25,140 --> 01:07:28,140 that people say they are pretty freaking cool 583 01:07:28,140 --> 01:07:34,140 they're quite based often but the way that Valve has approached gambling for instance 584 01:07:34,140 --> 01:07:37,140 the way that Valve just kind of takes their take 585 01:07:37,140 --> 01:07:41,140 and imperfect algorithmic etc 586 01:07:41,140 --> 01:07:45,140 and you know not standing up to payment processors 587 01:07:45,140 --> 01:07:48,140 around us just being allowed to spend our money however we like 588 01:07:48,140 --> 01:07:51,140 which should be the way that it works Valve is not perfect however 589 01:07:51,140 --> 01:07:54,140 this is one of the ways that they've actually been super cool for a long time 590 01:07:54,140 --> 01:07:57,140 is they're really not they understand the model 591 01:07:57,140 --> 01:08:01,140 if we're gonna sell you this thing and it's gonna have our store on it and you're gonna buy our games and that's great 592 01:08:01,140 --> 01:08:06,140 therefore the thing doesn't have to be too expensive and they've been keeping stuff like the Steam Deck 593 01:08:06,140 --> 01:08:09,140 like really cheap for a long time 594 01:08:09,140 --> 01:08:14,140 and I don't think there's a shift here where they're like oh RAM prices are up we can loot people now 595 01:08:14,140 --> 01:08:17,140 which is I'm for sure happening 596 01:08:17,140 --> 01:08:21,140 I'm for sure that's happening at some companies somewhere 597 01:08:21,140 --> 01:08:26,140 and I really don't think it's happening so basically we're not bootlicking Valve 598 01:08:26,140 --> 01:08:31,140 we're just trying to make sure that our anger right now 599 01:08:31,140 --> 01:08:35,140 is directed at the correct sources 600 01:08:35,140 --> 01:08:39,140 and we're gonna start having like fancy restaurant pricing 601 01:08:39,140 --> 01:08:42,140 for things where it just says like market price on everything 602 01:08:42,140 --> 01:08:45,140 and the market price is just dictated by RAM 603 01:08:45,140 --> 01:08:48,140 I feel like that's something that I did not get across very well last week 604 01:08:48,140 --> 01:08:52,140 when I was trying to talk about the sort of perspective shift 605 01:08:52,140 --> 01:08:56,140 so that whole conversation went up on LMG Clips 606 01:08:56,140 --> 01:09:00,140 and a lot of people were extremely mad about it in fairness 607 01:09:00,140 --> 01:09:04,140 I did not open the conversation very tactfully 608 01:09:04,140 --> 01:09:08,140 but the point I was trying to... If I can interject for a moment 609 01:09:08,140 --> 01:09:14,140 What you're referring to as tactless was in fact tactless plus 610 01:09:14,140 --> 01:09:20,140 I think part of the problem is that you script think out loud 611 01:09:21,140 --> 01:09:24,140 I've been thinking about this since you mentioned it before the show 612 01:09:24,140 --> 01:09:27,140 and I think that was Linus script thinking out loud 613 01:09:27,140 --> 01:09:33,140 which is where you kind of start with this dramatic position 614 01:09:33,140 --> 01:09:36,140 Oh, I see and then you distill it and you research it 615 01:09:36,140 --> 01:09:39,140 and you massage it into a well thought out argument 616 01:09:39,140 --> 01:09:44,140 that ends up being a script and you script thunk out loud on WAN Show 617 01:09:44,140 --> 01:09:47,140 and people were like, oh! A lot of people didn't watch that far into the clip 618 01:09:47,140 --> 01:09:51,140 I can tell you that much but basically what I was trying to get across 619 01:09:51,140 --> 01:09:54,140 and so a lot of the comments are about how 620 01:09:54,140 --> 01:09:58,140 well, you got to understand that housing is way more expensive 621 01:09:58,140 --> 01:10:01,140 and health care is way more expensive we have a lot of American viewers 622 01:10:01,140 --> 01:10:05,140 and food is way more expensive and computers are way more expensive 623 01:10:05,140 --> 01:10:09,140 and I guess what I was trying to get across last week 624 01:10:09,140 --> 01:10:12,140 is if for the last... 625 01:10:12,140 --> 01:10:15,140 I mean realistically the whole thing kind of goes back to 626 01:10:15,140 --> 01:10:19,140 sometime in the 70s when 627 01:10:19,140 --> 01:10:23,140 when wages just completely decoupled from corporate earnings 628 01:10:23,140 --> 01:10:28,140 because they track pretty close up until like 70s, 80s 629 01:10:28,140 --> 01:10:32,140 I wonder what happened back then I don't know, who knows, no one knows 630 01:10:32,140 --> 01:10:38,140 but they track pretty close up until then and then they just completely decoupled from each other 631 01:10:38,140 --> 01:10:41,140 and I guess the point that I was trying to make last week 632 01:10:41,140 --> 01:10:45,140 is like if you've been having the shit kicked out of you 633 01:10:45,140 --> 01:10:51,140 for 50 years by housing and food 634 01:10:51,140 --> 01:10:54,140 and shelter, sorry, housing and food 635 01:10:54,140 --> 01:10:59,140 and utilities and essentials 636 01:10:59,140 --> 01:11:02,140 That's happening right now too energy prices are going through the roof 637 01:11:02,140 --> 01:11:06,140 and clothing and then all that time 638 01:11:06,140 --> 01:11:12,140 gaming has been there for you with a full retail game being $60 639 01:11:12,140 --> 01:11:17,140 somehow in spite of everything else going like this 640 01:11:17,140 --> 01:11:21,140 and computers have been there for you 641 01:11:21,140 --> 01:11:24,140 like this, while everything else has gone like this 642 01:11:24,140 --> 01:11:27,140 and flat screen TVs have been there for you 643 01:11:27,140 --> 01:11:30,140 like this, while everything else has gone like this 644 01:11:30,140 --> 01:11:34,140 and flat screens are still there for some reason somehow 645 01:11:35,140 --> 01:11:38,140 I guess what I was trying to get across last week 646 01:11:38,140 --> 01:11:41,140 was that, yes, this RAM pricing blip 647 01:11:41,140 --> 01:11:46,140 really sucks, especially if you have to buy some RAM right now 648 01:11:46,140 --> 01:11:50,140 but compared to the absolute beating 649 01:11:50,140 --> 01:11:54,140 that all of these other essentials have been dishing out 650 01:11:57,140 --> 01:12:01,140 it still hasn't even remotely kept up 651 01:12:01,140 --> 01:12:04,140 with how much everything else has gone up 652 01:12:04,140 --> 01:12:08,140 and it sucks 653 01:12:08,140 --> 01:12:11,140 and especially the reason sucks 654 01:12:11,140 --> 01:12:15,140 like the fact that it's just so that we can have more AI 655 01:12:15,140 --> 01:12:18,140 that I don't think anyone, especially in this community 656 01:12:18,140 --> 01:12:25,140 is really asking for Yeah, a massive amount of the output that I see from those systems 657 01:12:25,140 --> 01:12:30,140 is junk that no one wants so if we didn't just make all the junk that no one wants 658 01:12:32,140 --> 01:12:35,140 this probably wouldn't be happening legitimately 659 01:12:35,140 --> 01:12:38,140 So yeah, I guess what I was trying to get across 660 01:12:38,140 --> 01:12:41,140 is like guys, the fact that we can still buy 661 01:12:41,140 --> 01:12:44,140 a Steam Deck for $550 662 01:12:44,140 --> 01:12:47,140 that's a lot worse than $400 663 01:12:47,140 --> 01:12:51,140 which is how much we could buy it for a week ago 664 01:12:51,140 --> 01:12:54,140 for how much value and how much entertainment 665 01:12:54,140 --> 01:12:57,140 and how much we can extract from that Steam Deck 666 01:12:57,140 --> 01:13:00,140 for $550 667 01:13:00,140 --> 01:13:03,140 All I was trying to say is 668 01:13:03,140 --> 01:13:06,140 hey, let's not be 669 01:13:06,140 --> 01:13:09,140 super mad at Valve about this 670 01:13:09,140 --> 01:13:12,140 You can be mad about the situation 671 01:13:12,140 --> 01:13:15,140 You should be mad about the situation 672 01:13:15,140 --> 01:13:18,140 Like dude, I was reading about 673 01:13:18,140 --> 01:13:22,140 how much the big food 674 01:13:22,140 --> 01:13:25,140 lobby has engaged with the current 675 01:13:25,140 --> 01:13:28,140 administration to defang 676 01:13:29,140 --> 01:13:32,140 the good parts of the 677 01:13:32,140 --> 01:13:35,140 Make America Healthy Again initiative 678 01:13:35,140 --> 01:13:38,140 And it's been unprecedented 679 01:13:38,140 --> 01:13:42,140 They're all spending at rates that are at least decade long highs 680 01:13:42,140 --> 01:13:46,140 in some cases all-time highs to just defang all this stuff 681 01:13:46,140 --> 01:13:49,140 You should totally be mad 682 01:13:49,140 --> 01:13:54,140 You should be super mad right now There's honestly too many things to be mad about 683 01:13:54,140 --> 01:13:58,140 But I do feel like in some ways and this is what I was talking about 684 01:13:58,140 --> 01:14:02,140 with the perspective adjustment I feel like in some ways 685 01:14:02,140 --> 01:14:06,140 our passion for gaming and our passion for technology 686 01:14:06,140 --> 01:14:09,140 is making it so that 687 01:14:09,140 --> 01:14:12,140 we are more angry 688 01:14:12,140 --> 01:14:15,140 at this thing that 689 01:14:15,140 --> 01:14:20,140 that we love than at the things that have actually been 690 01:14:20,140 --> 01:14:23,140 beating the sh** out of us far more 691 01:14:23,140 --> 01:14:26,140 in a much longer period of time 692 01:14:27,140 --> 01:14:31,140 I don't think I did a great job of explaining that 693 01:14:31,140 --> 01:14:34,140 But I was trying to be more positive 694 01:14:34,140 --> 01:14:37,140 I was trying to be a little more positive 695 01:14:39,140 --> 01:14:44,140 And you know what, it's funny because there was a time probably about 696 01:14:45,140 --> 01:14:48,140 I don't know, six, seven years ago 697 01:14:48,140 --> 01:14:52,140 I'll stop It's so dead 698 01:14:52,140 --> 01:14:56,140 That's when it becomes fun I am that old guy 699 01:14:56,140 --> 01:15:00,140 Did you just dab? Nice 700 01:15:00,140 --> 01:15:04,140 I can't even do it properly There we go 701 01:15:04,140 --> 01:15:08,140 See, now it's fun Now it's fun 702 01:15:08,140 --> 01:15:12,140 I can't even do it right Okay, anyway 703 01:15:12,140 --> 01:15:16,140 There was somewhere between Totally fake Arthur and the whole plane chat 704 01:15:16,140 --> 01:15:18,140 It's mods banned them 705 01:15:19,140 --> 01:15:22,140 Somewhere between five and eight years ago 706 01:15:22,140 --> 01:15:27,140 There you go We were really leaning into more negativity 707 01:15:27,140 --> 01:15:31,140 in our content More anger at the stagnation 708 01:15:31,140 --> 01:15:35,140 in silicon improvements more rants 709 01:15:35,140 --> 01:15:38,140 And Yvonne actually sat me down 710 01:15:38,140 --> 01:15:42,140 and was like, okay, listen Is that good for anybody? 711 01:15:42,140 --> 01:15:47,140 Does that help anybody? Does that help anybody get a better deal on their next computer? 712 01:15:47,140 --> 01:15:49,140 Does that help anybody 713 01:15:51,140 --> 01:15:55,140 feel more positive about the system that they're building 714 01:15:55,140 --> 01:15:59,140 to play games? Can you find a positive side? 715 01:15:59,140 --> 01:16:03,140 And I kind of went, okay, yeah Yeah, I think I can 716 01:16:03,140 --> 01:16:07,140 Excuse me The Steam Summer Sale is still there for us 717 01:16:07,140 --> 01:16:11,140 There's so many games that come out these days 718 01:16:11,140 --> 01:16:15,140 that do not have high system requirements And I know 719 01:16:15,140 --> 01:16:19,140 I know that there's a large extremely vocal 720 01:16:19,140 --> 01:16:23,140 part of the community that is very angry 721 01:16:23,140 --> 01:16:27,140 about new games having high system requirements that can't be run without upscaling 722 01:16:27,140 --> 01:16:31,140 or frame generation or whatever else And it's like 723 01:16:31,140 --> 01:16:35,140 Whoa, whoa, whoa You could probably count on your fingers and toes 724 01:16:35,140 --> 01:16:39,140 those releases Whereas every week 725 01:16:39,140 --> 01:16:43,140 Steam gets flooded with many games that are a lot of fun to play 726 01:16:43,140 --> 01:16:47,140 that you don't have to do any of that for You can play on a 10 year old Linux computer 727 01:16:47,140 --> 01:16:51,140 It's a very interesting tone shift because of how much people liked Crisis 728 01:16:51,140 --> 01:16:55,140 I know, I know It was practically impossible to run 729 01:16:55,140 --> 01:16:59,140 and it was like fun trying to see if you could and stuff like that 730 01:16:59,140 --> 01:17:03,140 But okay, you know what? I think that is such a critical 731 01:17:03,140 --> 01:17:07,140 point that you've landed on there because why are people yelling at me 732 01:17:07,140 --> 01:17:11,140 over on LMG clips? Why are people yelling at 733 01:17:11,140 --> 01:17:15,140 Hey, hold on Hold on, hold on 734 01:17:15,140 --> 01:17:19,140 Why are people yelling at game developers for building games that demand 735 01:17:19,140 --> 01:17:23,140 the fastest computers? Why are people angry 736 01:17:23,140 --> 01:17:27,140 at all of these places that didn't create the problem? 737 01:17:27,140 --> 01:17:31,140 Well, it's because of that passion 738 01:17:31,140 --> 01:17:35,140 That's exactly what I was talking about So back then 739 01:17:35,140 --> 01:17:39,140 they didn't have to the same degree that it's there now 740 01:17:39,140 --> 01:17:43,140 all these external stressors Oh yeah, yeah, yeah 741 01:17:43,140 --> 01:17:47,140 that are impeding on their ability to It was so much easier to just live 742 01:17:47,140 --> 01:17:51,140 to splurge on a new GPU or that could make it so you could aspire 743 01:17:51,140 --> 01:17:55,140 to one day owning a system that could run it 744 01:17:55,140 --> 01:17:59,140 It's the hopelessness that is actually caused 745 01:17:59,140 --> 01:18:03,140 by all these other factors I mean, when was the last time 746 01:18:03,140 --> 01:18:07,140 on WAN Show? Think about it 747 01:18:07,140 --> 01:18:11,140 The last time we talked about a technology industry 748 01:18:11,140 --> 01:18:13,140 hiring wave 749 01:18:15,140 --> 01:18:19,140 Who is our f***ing audience? Yeah, early 750 01:18:19,140 --> 01:18:23,140 It would have been early Covid It happened, it would have been early Covid 751 01:18:23,140 --> 01:18:27,140 Something that I think is interesting just on this topic 752 01:18:27,140 --> 01:18:31,140 we started this company in your garage That was 753 01:18:31,140 --> 01:18:35,140 a normal thing for companies with 754 01:18:35,140 --> 01:18:39,140 low amounts of money to do back then 755 01:18:39,140 --> 01:18:41,140 Most people don't have garages anymore 756 01:18:43,140 --> 01:18:47,140 If now that would have been a privileged position 757 01:18:47,140 --> 01:18:51,140 which is nuts Even then it was a privileged position 758 01:18:51,140 --> 01:18:55,140 I remember Yvonne and I shopping for our house 759 01:18:55,140 --> 01:18:59,140 and pushing ourselves for a detached house 760 01:18:59,140 --> 01:19:03,140 There are cheaper detached houses that have garages And that was with her 761 01:19:03,140 --> 01:19:07,140 I mean, yes but also not by as much as you might think 762 01:19:07,140 --> 01:19:11,140 We were already in the burbs We already, it wasn't like 763 01:19:11,140 --> 01:19:15,140 a large house by those standards 764 01:19:15,140 --> 01:19:19,140 It was older It was old when we bought it 765 01:19:19,140 --> 01:19:23,140 but not like cool you know, heritage 766 01:19:23,140 --> 01:19:27,140 Not retro It was just old 767 01:19:27,140 --> 01:19:31,140 And so we almost bought like a row home 768 01:19:31,140 --> 01:19:35,140 Yeah That was what was kind of comfortable 769 01:19:35,140 --> 01:19:39,140 and then we pushed ourselves hard and you've got to remember 770 01:19:39,140 --> 01:19:43,140 that I am married to someone who I don't think really clued in 771 01:19:43,140 --> 01:19:47,140 to how exceptional she is until I finally did it 772 01:19:47,140 --> 01:19:51,140 I think I got through to her We were in the Costco parking lot 773 01:19:51,140 --> 01:19:55,140 We were walking into the store and I 774 01:19:55,140 --> 01:19:59,140 I was like, yeah I always 775 01:19:59,140 --> 01:20:03,140 like knew but I never really thought about 776 01:20:03,140 --> 01:20:07,140 how insane it is that you got hired 777 01:20:07,140 --> 01:20:11,140 as the manager of a Costco pharmacy at 23 778 01:20:11,140 --> 01:20:15,140 That is f***ing insane 779 01:20:15,140 --> 01:20:19,140 Just graduated Major corporation 780 01:20:19,140 --> 01:20:23,140 Straight to manager Super high hiring standards 781 01:20:23,140 --> 01:20:27,140 Straight to managing a department with functionally no experience 782 01:20:27,140 --> 01:20:31,140 I mean, she had some pharmacy work experience from her practicum 783 01:20:31,140 --> 01:20:35,140 and I think she had like a years experience half a years experience or something 784 01:20:35,140 --> 01:20:39,140 working at Save On in the pharmacy there 785 01:20:39,140 --> 01:20:43,140 and she went straight to managing a department 786 01:20:43,140 --> 01:20:47,140 and I was like, I was thinking about it because 787 01:20:47,140 --> 01:20:51,140 I don't think we've ever seen 788 01:20:51,140 --> 01:20:55,140 and no offense to the many, many very talented people who work for 789 01:20:55,140 --> 01:20:59,140 Allied Atlantis Media Group I don't think we have ever seen anyone 790 01:20:59,140 --> 01:21:03,140 who's walked in at 23 and we've gone, holy s*** 791 01:21:05,140 --> 01:21:09,140 We will hire this person to manage a team 792 01:21:09,140 --> 01:21:13,140 of 15 to 20 people immediately 793 01:21:13,140 --> 01:21:17,140 and she was like, oh yeah I never really thought about that before 794 01:21:17,140 --> 01:21:19,140 and I was like, yeah, okay, have I finally gotten through 795 01:21:21,140 --> 01:21:25,140 So anyway, the point that I was getting at here is that was with the benefit 796 01:21:25,140 --> 01:21:29,140 of her working as a pharmacy manager, which is not 797 01:21:29,140 --> 01:21:33,140 normal for our cohort I should not have been married 798 01:21:33,140 --> 01:21:37,140 to someone that was making six figures I also dropped out 799 01:21:37,140 --> 01:21:41,140 and got extremely I worked hard 800 01:21:41,140 --> 01:21:45,140 and I like to think that I'm also not stupid right, but I got pretty lucky 801 01:21:45,140 --> 01:21:49,140 not everyone who took an entry level job at NCIX 802 01:21:49,140 --> 01:21:53,140 advanced to senior management in four years 803 01:21:53,140 --> 01:21:57,140 or whatever, five years or whatever it was I do think you're making all this comparison, which is all fair 804 01:21:57,140 --> 01:22:01,140 but your house that house was more expensive 805 01:22:01,140 --> 01:22:05,140 and the location makes it way more expensive 806 01:22:05,140 --> 01:22:09,140 if we're looking at like the North America's 807 01:22:09,140 --> 01:22:13,140 as a whole, it was relatively common to have a garage 808 01:22:13,140 --> 01:22:17,140 available to start your company at that year So okay, I was looking at it 809 01:22:17,140 --> 01:22:21,140 from like a Vancouver market perspective you're looking at it from a North America 810 01:22:21,140 --> 01:22:25,140 culturally for people who would have watched the video 811 01:22:25,140 --> 01:22:29,140 for the largest demographic of people that would have watched the video 812 01:22:29,140 --> 01:22:33,140 in Vancouver, even then a garage was crazy 813 01:22:33,140 --> 01:22:37,140 and it was because Yvonne and I just like 814 01:22:37,140 --> 01:22:41,140 teamed up and life together hard 815 01:22:41,140 --> 01:22:45,140 from 18, which is also not normal 816 01:22:45,140 --> 01:22:49,140 I look back and I go, if I had to 817 01:22:49,140 --> 01:22:53,140 solo it for 818 01:22:53,140 --> 01:22:57,140 some period of years instead of having a partner 819 01:22:57,140 --> 01:23:01,140 everything would have been way harder absolutely everything 820 01:23:03,140 --> 01:23:05,140 Yeah, fair enough 821 01:23:07,140 --> 01:23:11,140 But yeah, no, and now I mean, there are still places 822 01:23:11,140 --> 01:23:15,140 that are cheap every once in a while 823 01:23:15,140 --> 01:23:19,140 just like I'll jump on to 824 01:23:19,140 --> 01:23:23,140 a real estate listing site and you'll find like a detached home 825 01:23:23,140 --> 01:23:27,140 that's you look at and you go, yeah, I couldn't even 826 01:23:27,140 --> 01:23:31,140 I couldn't even buy like 827 01:23:31,140 --> 01:23:35,140 an empty lot in like Chilliwack for that 828 01:23:35,140 --> 01:23:39,140 It's priced knowing that you're going to have to somehow get rid of all the material that is the current house 829 01:23:39,140 --> 01:23:43,140 No, no, no, no, no, no, no in some parts of the states and stuff 830 01:23:43,140 --> 01:23:47,140 where you can buy a whole house that you can live in tomorrow 831 01:23:47,140 --> 01:23:51,140 for less than what you'd pay for an empty lot in Chilliwack 832 01:23:51,140 --> 01:23:55,140 I've walked through places around here that seem like they're nicely priced 833 01:23:55,140 --> 01:23:59,140 and then as you're walking through it the 834 01:23:59,140 --> 01:24:03,140 wood in the floor is so rotten and moldy 835 01:24:03,140 --> 01:24:07,140 that you're concerned you're going to fall through the floor and there's just like 836 01:24:07,140 --> 01:24:11,140 doom and treachery around every corner It's 837 01:24:11,140 --> 01:24:13,140 can get pretty sketch on the cheaper end 838 01:24:15,140 --> 01:24:19,140 What are we supposed to be talking about? Oh, right Are they, have they figured things out? 839 01:24:19,140 --> 01:24:23,140 They have, it's working I have verified it's working 840 01:24:23,140 --> 01:24:27,140 It's working! So I'll go through the flow, so if you go on 841 01:24:27,140 --> 01:24:31,140 the lttstore.com site you can click on this banner, which says 842 01:24:31,140 --> 01:24:35,140 View Video on YouTube The video is... Banner, I hardly know her 843 01:24:35,140 --> 01:24:39,140 The video is unlisted, so you're probably going to have to find it through the site 844 01:24:39,140 --> 01:24:43,140 but if you go to the unlisted video that you can click 845 01:24:43,140 --> 01:24:47,140 on the banner on the store to get to you can then see these screwdrivers 846 01:24:47,140 --> 01:24:51,140 which say they're a certain cost but maybe don't worry about that cost 847 01:24:51,140 --> 01:24:55,140 and then you click on it then you add it 848 01:24:55,140 --> 01:24:59,140 to cart and then when you get there 849 01:24:59,140 --> 01:25:03,140 it's discounted, there's two of them here it's discounted 850 01:25:03,140 --> 01:25:07,140 Okay, there were two I was like... 851 01:25:07,140 --> 01:25:11,140 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah Okay, cool, yep, that was a 852 01:25:11,140 --> 01:25:15,140 little freak out that I had on That's how it works, is the flow weird? Yes 853 01:25:15,140 --> 01:25:19,140 Yes Does it work? Also yes, double yes 854 01:25:19,140 --> 01:25:23,140 Yeah, yes, yes Yeah, it's going to look like it's 855 01:25:23,140 --> 01:25:27,140 not working, there is a point that you get to in this flow that feels strange 856 01:25:27,140 --> 01:25:31,140 I'm going to point it out You click on, so 857 01:25:31,140 --> 01:25:35,140 let me go back, you're on the video, you scroll down 858 01:25:35,140 --> 01:25:39,140 you click on the thing, it shows this price here you click on the thing, you get there 859 01:25:39,140 --> 01:25:43,140 and I don't see anything going on you know, I don't see any discounts or anything 860 01:25:43,140 --> 01:25:47,140 Well there's a thing down below It says here, but this price 861 01:25:47,140 --> 01:25:51,140 which is what 99% of people are just going to see they're not going to read anything else 862 01:25:51,140 --> 01:25:55,140 looks like that, if you click add to cart and then go to your cart 863 01:25:55,140 --> 01:25:57,140 now it's correct 864 01:25:59,140 --> 01:26:03,140 Yeah, now it's correct because I have gone into my cart 865 01:26:03,140 --> 01:26:07,140 to see it, so you got to have some follow through 866 01:26:07,140 --> 01:26:11,140 it's like a golf swing or something ever compare your sales 867 01:26:11,140 --> 01:26:15,140 pipeline to a golf swing Can't say I've ever compared 868 01:26:15,140 --> 01:26:19,140 anything to golf in any way Oh 869 01:26:19,140 --> 01:26:23,140 Nice What now, huh? 870 01:26:23,140 --> 01:26:27,140 So yeah, they're the same screwdrivers you know and love just dressed in some very fun, very nostalgic 871 01:26:27,140 --> 01:26:31,140 Y2K clear tech colors 872 01:26:31,140 --> 01:26:35,140 Prismagic series, that discount that Luke showed you, the 20% off 873 01:26:35,140 --> 01:26:39,140 that we've teamed up with YouTube shop to offer is from December 874 01:26:39,140 --> 01:26:41,140 26th to 30th 875 01:26:43,140 --> 01:26:47,140 Don't wait, also we've got a bunch of other cool stuff that you can check out 876 01:26:47,140 --> 01:26:51,140 on the store right now, if you've ever seen our Lumafield CT scanner video 877 01:26:51,140 --> 01:26:55,140 this might look a little familiar, it's inspired 878 01:26:55,140 --> 01:26:59,140 by the see-through scans that we get when we put products 879 01:26:59,140 --> 01:27:03,140 in the machine, cool right? That is cool 880 01:27:03,140 --> 01:27:07,140 So we've got, what all do we have on here we have someone wearing a Vision Pro 881 01:27:07,140 --> 01:27:11,140 Oh, right behind the mic, right there we've got a CPU 882 01:27:11,140 --> 01:27:15,140 There it is These are actual scans 883 01:27:15,140 --> 01:27:19,140 out of the Lumafield scanner we've got a little Bredsaurus 884 01:27:19,140 --> 01:27:23,140 plastic toy, we've got a screwdriver in there I think there's a, yep 885 01:27:23,140 --> 01:27:27,140 there's a game controllers you can see like the rumble motors and stuff 886 01:27:27,140 --> 01:27:31,140 um and it's just kind of a cool 887 01:27:31,140 --> 01:27:35,140 all over print hoodie that if people don't look that closely at 888 01:27:35,140 --> 01:27:39,140 they might not even realize that it's like a whole bunch of, a whole bunch of tech and stuff 889 01:27:39,140 --> 01:27:43,140 um LMG.GG 890 01:27:43,140 --> 01:27:47,140 slash all over print, you can check that out there and, and 891 01:27:47,140 --> 01:27:51,140 but wait, there's more! It's finally here 892 01:27:51,140 --> 01:27:55,140 It's finally here the first party bit case 893 01:27:57,140 --> 01:28:01,140 from LTTstore.com there it is 894 01:28:01,140 --> 01:28:05,140 ladies and gentlemen 7, 8 895 01:28:05,140 --> 01:28:09,140 7, 8 30, holds 30 bits 896 01:28:09,140 --> 01:28:13,140 but stop it 897 01:28:13,140 --> 01:28:17,140 stop it, they didn't even see you do that they can't even see you right now 898 01:28:17,140 --> 01:28:21,140 he's over here, he's over here dabbing again 899 01:28:21,140 --> 01:28:25,140 just stop it um 900 01:28:25,140 --> 01:28:29,140 anyway the point is it closes with a magnet and it has one of those little 901 01:28:29,140 --> 01:28:33,140 key things so you can throw a magnetic cable management power bar 902 01:28:33,140 --> 01:28:37,140 holder on it and then you can just like stick it to stuff and 903 01:28:37,140 --> 01:28:41,140 and, but wait there's more 904 01:28:43,140 --> 01:28:47,140 it's been 83 years but we finally 905 01:28:47,140 --> 01:28:51,140 have posidrive for our european friends 906 01:28:51,140 --> 01:28:55,140 this is one of those things where a lot of people don't even realize 907 01:28:55,140 --> 01:28:59,140 that there is a difference and they just grab a phillips bit 908 01:28:59,140 --> 01:29:03,140 when the screw is actually posidrive and then they wonder why it's slipping 909 01:29:03,140 --> 01:29:07,140 or getting stripped turns out, wrong bit 910 01:29:07,140 --> 01:29:11,140 we now have posidrive bits for when you actually need posidrive bits which is more often than you might realize 911 01:29:11,140 --> 01:29:15,140 ikea for instance, i believe uses posidrive 912 01:29:15,140 --> 01:29:19,140 so you can shop both the LTT screwdriver bit case 913 01:29:19,140 --> 01:29:23,140 and the posidrive bits ggslash 914 01:29:23,140 --> 01:29:27,140 posibitcase that is a horrible vanity url 915 01:29:27,140 --> 01:29:31,140 um pozibitcase 916 01:29:31,140 --> 01:29:35,140 anyway what page not found 917 01:29:35,140 --> 01:29:39,140 it was there hold on 918 01:29:39,140 --> 01:29:43,140 what just happened no, not that 919 01:29:43,140 --> 01:29:47,140 no, no, i know but it went it went, i'm so confused 920 01:29:47,140 --> 01:29:51,140 see okay, well we should probably deal with that 921 01:29:51,140 --> 01:29:55,140 whatever, it's probably on the home page please tell me it's on the home page 922 01:29:55,140 --> 01:29:59,140 yeah, there it is okay, nice 923 01:29:59,140 --> 01:30:03,140 posi underscore bit case good enough 924 01:30:03,140 --> 01:30:07,140 we'll figure it out drop table employees 925 01:30:07,140 --> 01:30:11,140 asks why bit holder 30 bits such a missed opportunity to make it 32 bit 926 01:30:11,140 --> 01:30:15,140 i know, right it was the exact same thing 927 01:30:15,140 --> 01:30:19,140 with the um with this one too 928 01:30:19,140 --> 01:30:23,140 i wanted to make the the precision bit set 929 01:30:23,140 --> 01:30:27,140 i wanted to make it 64 bit but it just ended up working out 930 01:30:27,140 --> 01:30:31,140 better to be 60 bit so, i'm sorry, i'm sorry 931 01:30:31,140 --> 01:30:35,140 and i will do better next time next time, that'll be the sequel to both of them 932 01:30:35,140 --> 01:30:39,140 so lots of good stuff on the store this week great time to 933 01:30:39,140 --> 01:30:43,140 you know, pick up the christmas present that you didn't get 934 01:30:43,140 --> 01:30:47,140 we actually, it's now become consistent, i've noticed 935 01:30:47,140 --> 01:30:51,140 that there is a spike on christmas day even if we don't have any promos running 936 01:30:51,140 --> 01:30:55,140 of just like people expected a thing, and they're just like 937 01:30:55,140 --> 01:30:59,140 still sitting on the couch and like yeah, or people spending christmas money 938 01:31:01,140 --> 01:31:05,140 so it's one of the two but it's 100% a thing 939 01:31:05,140 --> 01:31:09,140 that makes sense, i just haven't received christmas money in a long time 940 01:31:09,140 --> 01:31:13,140 yep that makes sense 941 01:31:13,140 --> 01:31:17,140 great, Dan, what are we supposed to be doing? alright, we're supposed to explain merch messages 942 01:31:17,140 --> 01:31:21,140 so, if you're new to wandshow welcome 943 01:31:21,140 --> 01:31:25,140 hey thanks for hanging out with us on the wandshow 944 01:31:25,140 --> 01:31:29,140 if you're new, then the way to interact with the show is not to throw money 945 01:31:29,140 --> 01:31:33,140 at your screen, we're really not that into that um, frankly 946 01:31:33,140 --> 01:31:37,140 you know, i'm doing pretty okay he's doing pretty okay 947 01:31:37,140 --> 01:31:41,140 that doesn't mean that we don't like making money 948 01:31:41,140 --> 01:31:45,140 and there are other people that work here we do, and that's our jobs, and that's their jobs 949 01:31:45,140 --> 01:31:49,140 and uh, you know yeah, that's cool 950 01:31:49,140 --> 01:31:53,140 but what we also like a lot is working hard for that money 951 01:31:53,140 --> 01:31:57,140 we really do we so 952 01:31:57,140 --> 01:32:01,140 we so often choose the hard path yeah 953 01:32:01,140 --> 01:32:05,140 so instead of just having you throw money at us 954 01:32:05,140 --> 01:32:09,140 through twitch bits or whatever the youtube ones are called 955 01:32:09,140 --> 01:32:13,140 or anything like that we create what we feel are really 956 01:32:13,140 --> 01:32:17,140 amazing products and we have you guys buy those products 957 01:32:17,140 --> 01:32:21,140 and then you can send a message to the show like that 958 01:32:21,140 --> 01:32:25,140 and then even if we don't get to your message um, you still get high quality merchandise 959 01:32:25,140 --> 01:32:29,140 in the mail it's a pretty good system 960 01:32:29,140 --> 01:32:33,140 so, why don't we show you guys how it works um, you go ahead and you go on to the site 961 01:32:33,140 --> 01:32:37,140 you add something to your cart and when you're in your cart, Luke's working on it 962 01:32:37,140 --> 01:32:41,140 he's working on it, he's cooking let him cook 963 01:32:41,140 --> 01:32:45,140 you go ahead and add something to your cart and when we're live, you will see 964 01:32:45,140 --> 01:32:49,140 I meant to click the arrow to go to the next one 965 01:32:49,140 --> 01:32:53,140 yeah, sure, full pitch transparency mode nice 966 01:32:53,140 --> 01:32:57,140 um, okay, there you go merch message, so you write a little message 967 01:32:57,140 --> 01:33:01,140 that will go to producer Dan there he is, stop it 968 01:33:01,140 --> 01:33:05,140 do it right no 969 01:33:05,140 --> 01:33:09,140 I like this stop it 970 01:33:09,140 --> 01:33:13,140 no, we're just going, no, forget it stop it 971 01:33:13,140 --> 01:33:17,140 that will go to producer Dan try again 972 01:33:17,140 --> 01:33:21,140 there it is I'm so triggered right now 973 01:33:21,140 --> 01:33:25,140 who will put your merch message on the screen 974 01:33:25,140 --> 01:33:29,140 like that one that's up there, Tina V what's up 975 01:33:29,140 --> 01:33:33,140 or who will reply to it or who will curate it for me and Luke 976 01:33:33,140 --> 01:33:37,140 to respond to, why don't we show you guys with a couple curated messages how that works 977 01:33:37,140 --> 01:33:41,140 sure, I got one here from Josh hey, Linny, Louis 978 01:33:41,140 --> 01:33:45,140 and Glenn, saying hi from Toronto Toronto 979 01:33:45,140 --> 01:33:49,140 what do you think is the most pressing issue tech is facing 980 01:33:49,140 --> 01:33:53,140 but doesn't get much media attention brain roughification of social media 981 01:33:53,140 --> 01:33:57,140 perhaps there's a decent amount of attention on that 982 01:33:57,140 --> 01:34:01,140 that is probably the biggest single problem nope, nope 983 01:34:01,140 --> 01:34:05,140 let's say the biggest single problem is perverse incentives 984 01:34:07,140 --> 01:34:11,140 okay, so he just he just went one step down 985 01:34:11,140 --> 01:34:15,140 he went to the root yeah, they asked what the biggest problem 986 01:34:15,140 --> 01:34:19,140 it's a good move but it's arguable 987 01:34:19,140 --> 01:34:23,140 that that's the biggest problem with everything yes 988 01:34:23,140 --> 01:34:27,140 yes perverse incentives, they're a huge problem 989 01:34:27,140 --> 01:34:31,140 I mean, we talk about it from like a management perspective 990 01:34:31,140 --> 01:34:35,140 often, like creating KPIs for people that incentivize 991 01:34:35,140 --> 01:34:39,140 completely the wrong behaviors that are destructive to themselves, their department 992 01:34:39,140 --> 01:34:43,140 the entire company that just like 993 01:34:43,140 --> 01:34:47,140 can seem well-intentioned at the time, like you could create 994 01:34:47,140 --> 01:34:51,140 an incentive for someone to you know, I don't know, reply to the most 995 01:34:51,140 --> 01:34:55,140 emails, right, or you know what a great example, Linus Torvald called out 996 01:34:55,140 --> 01:34:59,140 you know, a super visionary tech leader 997 01:34:59,140 --> 01:35:03,140 for valuing lines of code oh man, there was a lot of points 998 01:35:03,140 --> 01:35:07,140 in that video, I watched the whole thing there was a lot of points in that video 999 01:35:07,140 --> 01:35:11,140 where I felt very validated about different stances, that was 1000 01:35:11,140 --> 01:35:15,140 very much one of them well, I specifically brought that up on your behalf 1001 01:35:15,140 --> 01:35:19,140 you were like, there's a particular member and I was like, yeah! 1002 01:35:19,140 --> 01:35:23,140 it was great and so 1003 01:35:23,140 --> 01:35:27,140 and by creating, theoretically right, like on the very very 1004 01:35:27,140 --> 01:35:31,140 very top crust of the earth surface 1005 01:35:31,140 --> 01:35:35,140 the crust is very thin relative to the depth of the earth okay, that seems like 1006 01:35:35,140 --> 01:35:39,140 it could be a good idea you want your developers 1007 01:35:39,140 --> 01:35:43,140 to like, code a lot right? sure, yeah 1008 01:35:43,140 --> 01:35:47,140 sure, passes the initial person should be 1009 01:35:47,140 --> 01:35:51,140 doing work, what is work? typy typy, I want lots of 1010 01:35:51,140 --> 01:35:55,140 typy typy, yeah exactly but if you were to think about it 1011 01:35:55,140 --> 01:35:59,140 for longer than about 4 seconds you might think, oh wait, quantity 1012 01:35:59,140 --> 01:36:03,140 is probably not the most beneficial thing to this person, career development 1013 01:36:03,140 --> 01:36:07,140 maybe an extremely valuable one of the keys that they could typy typy is backspace or delete 1014 01:36:07,140 --> 01:36:11,140 yeah, who knows and so 1015 01:36:11,140 --> 01:36:15,140 and so if you think about it you know, you're creating an incentive 1016 01:36:15,140 --> 01:36:19,140 for potentially slapdash shoddy inefficient 1017 01:36:19,140 --> 01:36:23,140 work and so perverse incentives exist 1018 01:36:23,140 --> 01:36:27,140 everywhere and 1019 01:36:27,140 --> 01:36:31,140 you know, right now I think that in gaming for instance 1020 01:36:31,140 --> 01:36:35,140 gamers have created 1021 01:36:35,140 --> 01:36:39,140 a reward system for developers that rewards 1022 01:36:39,140 --> 01:36:43,140 forever live service gotcha 1023 01:36:43,140 --> 01:36:47,140 embedded ads expensive 1024 01:36:47,140 --> 01:36:51,140 loot boxes roster packs, pay to win 1025 01:36:53,140 --> 01:36:57,140 and it is human nature to get a reward 1026 01:36:57,140 --> 01:37:01,140 and repeat that behavior and the only difference 1027 01:37:01,140 --> 01:37:05,140 now is that we're doing it on an industrial 1028 01:37:05,140 --> 01:37:09,140 scale you know, I think that the 1029 01:37:09,140 --> 01:37:13,140 new business funding machine has created 1030 01:37:13,140 --> 01:37:17,140 perverse incentives to target infinite exponential 1031 01:37:17,140 --> 01:37:21,140 growth because that's where they get their reward from 1032 01:37:21,140 --> 01:37:25,140 and that's where we get bizarre behavior like buying all of the memory in the world 1033 01:37:25,140 --> 01:37:27,140 for an entire year 1034 01:37:29,140 --> 01:37:33,140 pretty much, Nomad I mean, we were talking a lot about 1035 01:37:33,140 --> 01:37:37,140 piracy earlier in the show I think that by 1036 01:37:37,140 --> 01:37:41,140 in some cases, pirating 1037 01:37:41,140 --> 01:37:45,140 online media we can create perverse incentives 1038 01:37:45,140 --> 01:37:49,140 for ever more intrusive advertising 1039 01:37:49,140 --> 01:37:53,140 and paywalls and monetization structures because people 1040 01:37:53,140 --> 01:37:57,140 expect to be paid for their work which is wild 1041 01:37:57,140 --> 01:38:01,140 crazy right 1042 01:38:01,140 --> 01:38:05,140 but I think if people had continued to not become immune to banner ads 1043 01:38:05,140 --> 01:38:09,140 or block them we might not have ended up with 1044 01:38:09,140 --> 01:38:13,140 say something do you remember that audio clip? 1045 01:38:13,140 --> 01:38:17,140 I will never forget it what? 1046 01:38:17,140 --> 01:38:21,140 man, what is that? I don't even remember what it was for 1047 01:38:21,140 --> 01:38:25,140 deeply ingrained in my brain but I don't remember what it's for from 1048 01:38:25,140 --> 01:38:29,140 but I know it's like a thing that I've heard it was a banner ad for something 1049 01:38:29,140 --> 01:38:33,140 I don't remember what it was but it was an audio banner ad 1050 01:38:33,140 --> 01:38:37,140 and it was the most obnoxious one I would 1051 01:38:37,140 --> 01:38:41,140 oh my god, my speakers are on sometimes you'd have to find it 1052 01:38:41,140 --> 01:38:45,140 and and yeah 1053 01:38:45,140 --> 01:38:49,140 and it's one of those things where 1054 01:38:49,140 --> 01:38:53,140 on the subject of ad block I never said don't do it I've even showed people how to do it 1055 01:38:53,140 --> 01:38:57,140 but what I did say was consider the outcomes 1056 01:38:57,140 --> 01:39:01,140 every action we take has consequences 1057 01:39:01,140 --> 01:39:05,140 and if you want quality media that you enjoy 1058 01:39:05,140 --> 01:39:09,140 if you want quality writing that you like to read 1059 01:39:09,140 --> 01:39:13,140 then you may 1060 01:39:13,140 --> 01:39:17,140 consider that those things 1061 01:39:17,140 --> 01:39:21,140 need financial support to exist 1062 01:39:21,140 --> 01:39:25,140 or you may not but then just you know 1063 01:39:25,140 --> 01:39:29,140 when we're in the dystopian AI slop future 1064 01:39:31,140 --> 01:39:35,140 just you know understand that we all 1065 01:39:35,140 --> 01:39:39,140 me, him even him 1066 01:39:39,140 --> 01:39:43,140 we all had a part to play in this outcome 1067 01:39:43,140 --> 01:39:47,140 and this is really really important okay so put down your keyboards 1068 01:39:47,140 --> 01:39:51,140 one moment please this is really really important 1069 01:39:51,140 --> 01:39:55,140 we might have ended up there anyway we might have ended up with the intrusive ads 1070 01:39:55,140 --> 01:39:59,140 we might have ended up with AI slop all the things 1071 01:39:59,140 --> 01:40:03,140 and human jobs being cut we might have ended up there anyway 1072 01:40:03,140 --> 01:40:07,140 because corporate greed truly knows no limits but 1073 01:40:07,140 --> 01:40:11,140 but we might not have and we'll never know now 1074 01:40:13,140 --> 01:40:17,140 yeah so that's cool I think it's somewhat true but also if the incentives 1075 01:40:17,140 --> 01:40:21,140 are the opposite where like if you don't support 1076 01:40:21,140 --> 01:40:25,140 things that do that the corporate greed will follow 1077 01:40:25,140 --> 01:40:29,140 where the incentives are corporate greed is a 1078 01:40:29,140 --> 01:40:33,140 guarantee but if we provided incentives 1079 01:40:33,140 --> 01:40:37,140 to build high quality products for instance 1080 01:40:37,140 --> 01:40:41,140 then the corporate greed would follow that 1081 01:40:41,140 --> 01:40:45,140 but we provide incentives to build disposable the cheapest 1082 01:40:45,140 --> 01:40:49,140 possible thing and you know that's why 1083 01:40:49,140 --> 01:40:53,140 oh boy that's why North American manufacturing 1084 01:40:53,140 --> 01:40:55,140 was off-shored 1085 01:40:57,140 --> 01:41:01,140 I find it funny that you moved away from the mic is if you're trying to like dodge 1086 01:41:01,140 --> 01:41:03,140 off-shored 1087 01:41:05,140 --> 01:41:09,140 I mean if I can talk at them maybe they can yell at me through it 1088 01:41:09,140 --> 01:41:13,140 you can make speakers be microphones can you make microphones be speakers 1089 01:41:13,140 --> 01:41:17,140 um yes I think so 1090 01:41:17,140 --> 01:41:21,140 I think if you did it hard enough probably I don't know that they'd be loud but 1091 01:41:21,140 --> 01:41:25,140 yeah people are saying yes you can yeah alright so then it could happen 1092 01:41:25,140 --> 01:41:29,140 or ruin the mic I don't think they're concerned about that 1093 01:41:29,140 --> 01:41:33,140 so um so this is one of those things that it's like we have no 1094 01:41:33,140 --> 01:41:37,140 further to look than you know in the mirror 1095 01:41:37,140 --> 01:41:41,140 and I'm a participant every single time that I go to the dollar store to buy a 1096 01:41:41,140 --> 01:41:45,140 barbeque scraper rather than buy one from smarter every day 1097 01:41:45,140 --> 01:41:49,140 I think I've pointed this video out maybe a couple times on wancho 1098 01:41:49,140 --> 01:41:53,140 but there is a video by speed like I show speed 1099 01:41:53,140 --> 01:41:57,140 no this comes up every time um 1100 01:41:57,140 --> 01:42:01,140 barbeque scraper man yep I love that 1101 01:42:01,140 --> 01:42:05,140 that's like in some circles what he's known for now 1102 01:42:05,140 --> 01:42:09,140 really yeah that is pretty interesting yeah right 1103 01:42:09,140 --> 01:42:13,140 can I find this video he did a video on like buying 1104 01:42:13,140 --> 01:42:17,140 uh like you know they don't make them how they used 1105 01:42:17,140 --> 01:42:21,140 to is that true and it's actually very interesting 1106 01:42:21,140 --> 01:42:25,140 if I can even find it which so far I can't 1107 01:42:25,140 --> 01:42:29,140 speaking of perverse incentives, youtube titling and thumbnails 1108 01:42:29,140 --> 01:42:33,140 we wouldn't do it I didn't even try to search for this 1109 01:42:33,140 --> 01:42:37,140 because you know I'm not like 1110 01:42:37,140 --> 01:42:41,140 oh this guy does clickbait it's just like it's a standard on the 1111 01:42:41,140 --> 01:42:45,140 on the platform now right you like basically have to 1112 01:42:45,140 --> 01:42:49,140 uh man where is I don't think it's that 1113 01:42:49,140 --> 01:42:53,140 oni highkid says all incentives are perverse and degrade moral integrity 1114 01:42:53,140 --> 01:42:57,140 when you make a decision based on only benefits you're not exercising your moral 1115 01:42:57,140 --> 01:43:01,140 willpower and it will atrophy over time the starting point of any decision should be 1116 01:43:01,140 --> 01:43:05,140 your own moral framework which is cool 1117 01:43:05,140 --> 01:43:09,140 cool in theory it's great in theory welcome to companies 1118 01:43:09,140 --> 01:43:13,140 and the second that you have a hundred mouths to feed um 1119 01:43:13,140 --> 01:43:17,140 and you make it's not even just that the the standard 1120 01:43:17,140 --> 01:43:21,140 state for companies is is corporate degree that's how companies work 1121 01:43:21,140 --> 01:43:25,140 it's honestly at a certain level how they sort of have to 1122 01:43:25,140 --> 01:43:29,140 I mean you don't even have to start there which is why I started with the second you have 1123 01:43:29,140 --> 01:43:33,140 a hundred mouths to feed and pivoting your company in some way 1124 01:43:33,140 --> 01:43:37,140 will be the difference between a christmas bonus and mass layoffs 1125 01:43:37,140 --> 01:43:41,140 then I will ask I'll turn the question around on you and I'll ask 1126 01:43:41,140 --> 01:43:45,140 which was the moral choice because the railroad tracks 1127 01:43:45,140 --> 01:43:49,140 were your own personal integrity 1128 01:43:49,140 --> 01:43:53,140 or all of your employees lined up 1129 01:43:53,140 --> 01:43:55,140 tied down on the railroad track 1130 01:43:57,140 --> 01:44:01,140 which switch do you pull it's not that simple 1131 01:44:01,140 --> 01:44:05,140 but then there are also some layoffs that are super simple 1132 01:44:05,140 --> 01:44:09,140 where it's like I don't know stock dollar number go up if fire 1133 01:44:09,140 --> 01:44:13,140 large number of people and then I get new boat 1134 01:44:13,140 --> 01:44:17,140 I choose boat I would say that's a super nice incentive yeah yeah 1135 01:44:17,140 --> 01:44:21,140 a maria says line is taking gambling ads next year confirmed 1136 01:44:21,140 --> 01:44:25,140 no we are very far from we are very far from that point 1137 01:44:25,140 --> 01:44:29,140 um you know 1138 01:44:29,140 --> 01:44:33,140 I do think that's an interesting that's an interesting line though I mean 1139 01:44:33,140 --> 01:44:37,140 it's one of those things that I found it 1140 01:44:37,140 --> 01:44:41,140 okay Luke hold on before you before you click that yes 1141 01:44:41,140 --> 01:44:45,140 if Colton came to us and said basically 1142 01:44:45,140 --> 01:44:49,140 you know the industry is getting hit super hard 1143 01:44:49,140 --> 01:44:53,140 you know there's no there's no advertising coming in from tech companies 1144 01:44:53,140 --> 01:44:57,140 because they can't sell anything anyway because you know literally 1145 01:44:57,140 --> 01:45:01,140 like they can't get enough RAM 1146 01:45:01,140 --> 01:45:05,140 to sell computers that have RAM in them 1147 01:45:05,140 --> 01:45:09,140 hot take I think that's actually a really good decision for them to do but anyways 1148 01:45:09,140 --> 01:45:13,140 um you know basically 1149 01:45:13,140 --> 01:45:17,140 our revenue is going to be down by 30% we will 1150 01:45:17,140 --> 01:45:21,140 have to let go of you know we have some buffer we're not an irresponsibly run 1151 01:45:21,140 --> 01:45:25,140 company um and we have 1152 01:45:25,140 --> 01:45:29,140 we have done it before and you know to an extent we'll do 1153 01:45:29,140 --> 01:45:33,140 it again where we'll we'll cut profits in order to maintain headcount 1154 01:45:33,140 --> 01:45:37,140 but we're going to lose 10% of our people we're going to lose 10% 1155 01:45:37,140 --> 01:45:41,140 I have a solution we're going to work with 1156 01:45:41,140 --> 01:45:45,140 draft kings or you know whatever and they'll basically pay us a guaranteed 1157 01:45:45,140 --> 01:45:49,140 you know amount over the course of the year um would you rather 1158 01:45:49,140 --> 01:45:53,140 cut 10% of your teams or would you rather take a gambling sponsorship 1159 01:45:53,140 --> 01:45:57,140 and to be clear I'm not saying 1160 01:45:57,140 --> 01:46:01,140 that you can tell he's agitated because chair shaking is doing the leg thing um 1161 01:46:01,140 --> 01:46:05,140 it's a constant state but it ramps up when I'm when I'm agitated 1162 01:46:05,140 --> 01:46:09,140 that's for sure yeah and this is all this is all easy for people to say 1163 01:46:09,140 --> 01:46:13,140 it's it's all easy for people to take a stance on until 1164 01:46:13,140 --> 01:46:17,140 it's someone they know personally right yeah 1165 01:46:17,140 --> 01:46:21,140 uh you know good people good people 1166 01:46:21,140 --> 01:46:25,140 because the reason why I'm saying good people is this is not one 1167 01:46:25,140 --> 01:46:29,140 this is due to global 1168 01:46:29,140 --> 01:46:33,140 market factors this this scenario you're laying out yeah is that it's not 1169 01:46:33,140 --> 01:46:37,140 because of anyone's individual failure no we just have to cut heads 1170 01:46:37,140 --> 01:46:41,140 yep and I mean look this is and this is a hard truth 1171 01:46:41,140 --> 01:46:45,140 the head that we cut won't be mine I'm I'll I can absorb some of it 1172 01:46:45,140 --> 01:46:49,140 but like it's not going to be like oh let's just like 1173 01:46:49,140 --> 01:46:53,140 not have Linus anymore and let's keep everyone else like that's not happening 1174 01:46:53,140 --> 01:46:57,140 I do think there's that like uh how the Nintendo executives 1175 01:46:57,140 --> 01:47:01,140 dealt with Wii U is just like deeply based 1176 01:47:01,140 --> 01:47:05,140 deeply but it also for those who didn't know Nintendo 1177 01:47:05,140 --> 01:47:09,140 like slashed executive pay when the Wii U was a failure like pretty 1178 01:47:09,140 --> 01:47:13,140 hard and they did not touch to my knowledge they did not touch 1179 01:47:13,140 --> 01:47:15,140 I see individual contributor pay 1180 01:47:17,140 --> 01:47:21,140 yeah trying to find this I 1181 01:47:21,140 --> 01:47:25,140 forget the exact details but basically Nintendo was like hyper based when the Wii U 1182 01:47:25,140 --> 01:47:29,140 this is an AI overview thing but this sounds accurate to my memory no I'm going to go find 1183 01:47:29,140 --> 01:47:33,140 a source I don't care I'm trying to be fast because it's on the show 1184 01:47:33,140 --> 01:47:37,140 but you guys are just going to have to wait while you're waiting for him it's funny 1185 01:47:37,140 --> 01:47:41,140 50% layoff for the CEO and 20 to 30% layoffs for 1186 01:47:41,140 --> 01:47:45,140 pay cuts not layoffs sorry yeah 1187 01:47:45,140 --> 01:47:49,140 50% layoff for pay cuts 1188 01:47:49,140 --> 01:47:51,140 oh my god why can't I say this properly 1189 01:47:53,140 --> 01:47:57,140 50% pay cut for Satoru Iwata 1190 01:47:57,140 --> 01:48:01,140 and 20 to 30% reductions for other executives yeah 1191 01:48:01,140 --> 01:48:05,140 super based based that being said you said 30% 1192 01:48:05,140 --> 01:48:07,140 rev down 1193 01:48:11,140 --> 01:48:15,140 I don't think that would solve well no it wouldn't because 1194 01:48:15,140 --> 01:48:19,140 so even if we did that well no that's why I said 30% revenue 1195 01:48:19,140 --> 01:48:23,140 down we would have to take a 10% pay cut because I'm assuming that we will 1196 01:48:23,140 --> 01:48:27,140 absorb some of it oh yeah okay whatever 1197 01:48:27,140 --> 01:48:31,140 but what I'm saying is we can absorb all of it so the choice is 1198 01:48:31,140 --> 01:48:35,140 at 30% rev down I don't think we could even if we wanted to it's what I'm trying to 1199 01:48:35,140 --> 01:48:39,140 oh yeah no we couldn't that's what I'm trying to communicate like it's not viable we could 1200 01:48:39,140 --> 01:48:43,140 for honor's sake pull the and probably would I suspect in this case 1201 01:48:43,140 --> 01:48:47,140 pull the Nintendo move but that would 1202 01:48:47,140 --> 01:48:51,140 not pull us out of we're still screwed 1203 01:48:51,140 --> 01:48:55,140 yeah we still have to do something like you said war chest blah blah blah 1204 01:48:55,140 --> 01:48:59,140 and rev is not something a lot of companies can just like take on the chin and keep going 1205 01:48:59,140 --> 01:49:03,140 this is like catastrophic yes 1206 01:49:03,140 --> 01:49:07,140 yeah yeah like I can I can tell you now 1207 01:49:07,140 --> 01:49:11,140 Linus Media Group Incorporated Floatplane Inc. Creator Warehouse Inc. 1208 01:49:11,140 --> 01:49:15,140 do not have 30% net profit 1209 01:49:15,140 --> 01:49:19,140 yeah so which is fine 1210 01:49:19,140 --> 01:49:23,140 but a fact nonetheless but it is a fact 1211 01:49:23,140 --> 01:49:27,140 and so if it came to that there is no 1212 01:49:27,140 --> 01:49:31,140 well Linus should just make less outcome that is going to be 1213 01:49:31,140 --> 01:49:35,140 acceptable doesn't resolve the problem yeah so 1214 01:49:35,140 --> 01:49:39,140 I mean and look if you you could just say hey look I hope I never have to make this 1215 01:49:39,140 --> 01:49:43,140 choice and I'm not gonna force you to answer the question no I think I have an answer 1216 01:49:43,140 --> 01:49:47,140 my point was just that it's hard it's not black and white that was the 1217 01:49:47,140 --> 01:49:51,140 point but if you think you have an answer I'm interested 1218 01:49:51,140 --> 01:49:55,140 it's tough but I would talk to my teams 1219 01:49:55,140 --> 01:49:59,140 I would just be super real about the situation that we're in and 1220 01:49:59,140 --> 01:50:03,140 I think what I would do is 1221 01:50:05,140 --> 01:50:09,140 yeah I don't know describe the situation describe the problem that we're in 1222 01:50:09,140 --> 01:50:13,140 and maybe even end up oh man 1223 01:50:13,140 --> 01:50:17,140 I would enthusiastically talk about 1224 01:50:17,140 --> 01:50:21,140 the fact that we really don't want to do things like gambling 1225 01:50:21,140 --> 01:50:25,140 sponsorships that it goes against the standards that we've set for 1226 01:50:25,140 --> 01:50:29,140 ourselves yada yada yada yada yada but that there is no 1227 01:50:29,140 --> 01:50:33,140 way that we have been able to find out of this scenario because 1228 01:50:33,140 --> 01:50:37,140 again we're in the confines of this thought experiment yeah 1229 01:50:37,140 --> 01:50:41,140 there is no other route because we're not we're not saying this is 1230 01:50:41,140 --> 01:50:45,140 technical reality we're saying this is the confines of the thought experiment yeah the confines of the thought 1231 01:50:45,140 --> 01:50:49,140 experiment is the only path out is either layoffs 1232 01:50:49,140 --> 01:50:53,140 or ad sales this is not a reality eliminated every other option 1233 01:50:53,140 --> 01:50:57,140 this is not a reality situation so I would talk to the people 1234 01:50:57,140 --> 01:51:01,140 discuss potential solutions that we don't want to do the 1235 01:51:01,140 --> 01:51:05,140 ad thing but if everyone is like hyper desperate and they're like look 1236 01:51:05,140 --> 01:51:09,140 there literally are no jobs I will be homeless if this doesn't happen 1237 01:51:09,140 --> 01:51:13,140 then we discuss as a team what that means for 1238 01:51:13,140 --> 01:51:17,140 the current job market is like decently realistic could be realistic 1239 01:51:17,140 --> 01:51:21,140 and people are talking across the board pay 1240 01:51:21,140 --> 01:51:25,140 reductions okay so that's one of those things 1241 01:51:25,140 --> 01:51:29,140 that's a great idea until it happens to you yeah so we discovered 1242 01:51:29,140 --> 01:51:33,140 something many many years ago when we pretty much 1243 01:51:33,140 --> 01:51:37,140 let me interject real quick if the whole group came to that conclusion 1244 01:51:37,140 --> 01:51:41,140 that's one thing that is one they won't and that would be with 1245 01:51:41,140 --> 01:51:45,140 leaders taking a higher pay cut etc but yeah I don't 1246 01:51:45,140 --> 01:51:49,140 think they necessarily would we discovered years ago that running sweepstakes 1247 01:51:49,140 --> 01:51:53,140 instead of creating one winner creates a million 1248 01:51:53,140 --> 01:51:57,140 losers and it just it generates more negativity than 1249 01:51:57,140 --> 01:52:01,140 any positivity out of it could possibly have been generated 1250 01:52:01,140 --> 01:52:05,140 and in the same way that if we were to cut 10% of the workforce 1251 01:52:05,140 --> 01:52:09,140 we'd be creating 10% low morale 1252 01:52:09,140 --> 01:52:13,140 all people who don't work here anymore and if we cut the entire workforce 1253 01:52:13,140 --> 01:52:17,140 by 10% we'd be generating the entire workforce low morale 1254 01:52:17,140 --> 01:52:21,140 yeah and they would all still work here I think there is great I think there is 1255 01:52:21,140 --> 01:52:25,140 technically a way out with the entire workforce 1256 01:52:25,140 --> 01:52:29,140 reduction thing if the whole team the entire team 1257 01:52:29,140 --> 01:52:33,140 sure rallies behind it and is like okay we will 1258 01:52:33,140 --> 01:52:37,140 restore this if we get to whatever state la la la la la 1259 01:52:37,140 --> 01:52:41,140 then cool I think that's extremely tough 1260 01:52:41,140 --> 01:52:45,140 it's not going to happen already ScrappyDP is taking a stance 1261 01:52:45,140 --> 01:52:49,140 that would be incompatible with us crawling our way out of this 1262 01:52:49,140 --> 01:52:53,140 out of this whole you'll get 10% less work 1263 01:52:53,140 --> 01:52:57,140 yeah I don't know like I said there are specific teams that 1264 01:52:57,140 --> 01:53:01,140 could do this that could rally behind this banner and there are certain 1265 01:53:01,140 --> 01:53:05,140 teams that would be unable to I don't know where we're at 1266 01:53:05,140 --> 01:53:09,140 that's not even part of this conversation matter I can imagine 1267 01:53:09,140 --> 01:53:13,140 companies though I can imagine states of different companies too 1268 01:53:13,140 --> 01:53:17,140 where they would have been in a spot where that would be totally fine 1269 01:53:17,140 --> 01:53:21,140 but I can also imagine companies where 1270 01:53:21,140 --> 01:53:25,140 people would be like well I mean I'd rather leave and then it's like okay cool 1271 01:53:25,140 --> 01:53:29,140 and then you kind of pivot to a position where it's like alright if we know we have to 1272 01:53:29,140 --> 01:53:33,140 do this layoff thing let's do this as like a team and instead of just like blind 1273 01:53:33,140 --> 01:53:37,140 siding people let's try to work with you try you can work here until this time 1274 01:53:37,140 --> 01:53:41,140 let's work with you full time until then to try to help you get a spot things like that 1275 01:53:41,140 --> 01:53:45,140 there are ways out to try to 1276 01:53:45,140 --> 01:53:49,140 lessen the blow in this specific scenario where there is no other way out 1277 01:53:49,140 --> 01:53:53,140 you're not doing it because of individual performance blah blah blah blah blah blah blah 1278 01:53:53,140 --> 01:53:57,140 Crater says pay cuts plus company ownership 1279 01:53:57,140 --> 01:54:01,140 percentage could maybe balance out part of the morale blow yeah 1280 01:54:01,140 --> 01:54:05,140 the issue is that it just doesn't it just doesn't really work that way 1281 01:54:05,140 --> 01:54:09,140 like it's um people ultimately are most impacted 1282 01:54:09,140 --> 01:54:13,140 by the things that most impact them directly and that sounds like a kind of stupid 1283 01:54:13,140 --> 01:54:17,140 unnecessary thing for me to have to say but it's it's the truth 1284 01:54:17,140 --> 01:54:21,140 at the end of the day a whole bunch of people being miserable all at the same time 1285 01:54:21,140 --> 01:54:25,140 in theory you know misery loves company and all of that 1286 01:54:25,140 --> 01:54:29,140 but it doesn't actually make when we say misery loves company 1287 01:54:29,140 --> 01:54:33,140 we don't say that it like makes them happier that everyone's miserable it just 1288 01:54:33,140 --> 01:54:37,140 um is something to talk about 1289 01:54:37,140 --> 01:54:41,140 you know and it can create a death spiral oh yeah I was going to say I always 1290 01:54:41,140 --> 01:54:45,140 interpreted that statement differently I thought misery loves company is because people 1291 01:54:45,140 --> 01:54:49,140 who are miserable will like radiate misery 1292 01:54:49,140 --> 01:54:53,140 around them oh yeah yeah yeah 100% and um 1293 01:54:53,140 --> 01:54:57,140 yeah I don't think we need to go like too much further into this weren't we're not 1294 01:54:57,140 --> 01:55:01,140 the the mighty reptar said people are able to be so idealistic when they can just 1295 01:55:01,140 --> 01:55:05,140 type in chat yeah it's tough I'm trying to like actually think about actually 1296 01:55:05,140 --> 01:55:09,140 being in the scenario and you know emotions are going to end up getting 1297 01:55:09,140 --> 01:55:13,140 really really high people are going to end up getting really really mad yeah 1298 01:55:13,140 --> 01:55:17,140 fingers is going to happen almost immediately and here's the thing like remember the emotional 1299 01:55:17,140 --> 01:55:21,140 response last week when I was talking about the perspective adjustment on RAM pricing 1300 01:55:21,140 --> 01:55:25,140 at the end of the day most of the things we buy in a given year are not 1301 01:55:25,140 --> 01:55:29,140 RAM and don't have RAM in them yeah um but this was 1302 01:55:29,140 --> 01:55:33,140 something that you know especially if okay let's say 1303 01:55:33,140 --> 01:55:37,140 because it's all about like like me right now how does this 1304 01:55:37,140 --> 01:55:41,140 impact me for most people and that's human I'm not blaming anybody for that 1305 01:55:41,140 --> 01:55:45,140 but if you are the person who has been saving up for two years 1306 01:55:45,140 --> 01:55:49,140 to finally buy a gaming PC or a steam deck 1307 01:55:49,140 --> 01:55:53,140 or whatever it is and you've just been you've had it 1308 01:55:53,140 --> 01:55:57,140 yanked away from you it's like yeah grand scheme of things 1309 01:55:57,140 --> 01:56:01,140 most things only have RAM as part of their cost 1310 01:56:01,140 --> 01:56:05,140 so even if RAM goes up double or triple that didn't double or triple the overall 1311 01:56:05,140 --> 01:56:09,140 price of the thing like like you know on numbers on a spreadsheet in a 1312 01:56:09,140 --> 01:56:13,140 live chat you know it's it's not that impact for that person 1313 01:56:13,140 --> 01:56:17,140 it's the difference between they can buy that thing that 1314 01:56:17,140 --> 01:56:21,140 they've been dreaming of for two years and now they cannot 1315 01:56:21,140 --> 01:56:25,140 and for some people a 10% pay cut could be the difference 1316 01:56:25,140 --> 01:56:29,140 between surviving and not and so 1317 01:56:29,140 --> 01:56:33,140 it's easy to say like oh yeah the team should just all agree 1318 01:56:33,140 --> 01:56:37,140 on a 10% pay cut to weather the storm and not take you know gambling ads or whatever 1319 01:56:37,140 --> 01:56:41,140 but I wouldn't even it's not like I wouldn't understand 1320 01:56:41,140 --> 01:56:45,140 that one person who goes I cannot do that yeah totally reasonable 1321 01:56:45,140 --> 01:56:49,140 but but Lea Kay in full playing chat said a while back 1322 01:56:49,140 --> 01:56:53,140 my my company offered a 5% pay cut as an alternative to 1323 01:56:53,140 --> 01:56:57,140 redundancy layoffs and it worked and then there's other people in here saying 1324 01:56:57,140 --> 01:57:01,140 that morale at their company has been ruined because of a layoff that happened 1325 01:57:01,140 --> 01:57:05,140 due to decreased revenue like there is this is a 1326 01:57:05,140 --> 01:57:09,140 no actual good answer scenario there are a lot of those scenarios 1327 01:57:09,140 --> 01:57:13,140 in life and realistically someone 1328 01:57:13,140 --> 01:57:17,140 is going to be like possibly full on 1329 01:57:17,140 --> 01:57:21,140 crash out level livid any answer that you come up with 1330 01:57:21,140 --> 01:57:25,140 and you just have to try to work with people to do the best thing you can 1331 01:57:25,140 --> 01:57:29,140 and that Sky PDP said it will depend on the organization totally 1332 01:57:29,140 --> 01:57:33,140 it's going to depend on the group of people it's going to depend on how that group of people can band together to move past this 1333 01:57:33,140 --> 01:57:37,140 it's going to depend on if that group of people even wants to that might be 1334 01:57:37,140 --> 01:57:41,140 the core problem in the first place if we're being completely honest 1335 01:57:41,140 --> 01:57:45,140 there's so many variables so many different things 1336 01:57:45,140 --> 01:57:49,140 and it's a no win scenario 1337 01:57:49,140 --> 01:57:53,140 hopefully reduced loss scenario 1338 01:57:53,140 --> 01:57:57,140 are you saying a 10% pay cut could bankrupt your employees I don't know possibly 1339 01:57:57,140 --> 01:58:01,140 I don't manage their finances no matter how much money you're making 1340 01:58:01,140 --> 01:58:05,140 this is exactly what I'm going to say if you look up income 1341 01:58:05,140 --> 01:58:09,140 and how much people are living paycheck to paycheck it almost doesn't matter people's expenses 1342 01:58:09,140 --> 01:58:13,140 often will just track their income so at the time we bought 1343 01:58:13,140 --> 01:58:17,140 this office we were I think our revenues were 1344 01:58:17,140 --> 01:58:21,140 over a million dollars a year right 1345 01:58:21,140 --> 01:58:25,140 but just because we had that much revenue 1346 01:58:25,140 --> 01:58:29,140 if we had had a significant reduction 1347 01:58:29,140 --> 01:58:33,140 in our revenue and we were still bringing in 1348 01:58:33,140 --> 01:58:37,140 $700,000 a year or whatever that's still a lot of money 1349 01:58:37,140 --> 01:58:41,140 but yeah that could have forced us into bankruptcy because we had so many bills 1350 01:58:41,140 --> 01:58:45,140 dude Darimp 1351 01:58:45,140 --> 01:58:49,140 said I'd happily take a 20% cut to go down to a 4 day work week one of the problems 1352 01:58:49,140 --> 01:58:53,140 of this scenario is how are we going to fight our way back to 1353 01:58:53,140 --> 01:58:57,140 competitiveness you got to be kidding me that doesn't work 1354 01:58:57,140 --> 01:59:01,140 at that point they might as well just lay off yeah and so like buddy who's like you're going to get 10% less 1355 01:59:01,140 --> 01:59:05,140 work it's like okay great so now well we're f***ed then because 1356 01:59:05,140 --> 01:59:09,140 we're already struggling to compete because at the end of the day 1357 01:59:09,140 --> 01:59:13,140 it is competition right like I do genuinely believe that 1358 01:59:13,140 --> 01:59:17,140 my fellow tech YouTubers I don't see them as bitter rival competitors 1359 01:59:17,140 --> 01:59:21,140 because I do think that a rising tide lifts all ships but in the grand 1360 01:59:21,140 --> 01:59:25,140 scheme of things the much bigger picture your ship has to be floating 1361 01:59:25,140 --> 01:59:29,140 to go up at the time your eyeballs have a limited amount of 1362 01:59:29,140 --> 01:59:33,140 stuff they can look at every day so we do compete 1363 01:59:33,140 --> 01:59:37,140 with the Super Bowl we compete with 1364 01:59:37,140 --> 01:59:41,140 that you know romantic kindle that is 1365 01:59:41,140 --> 01:59:45,140 waiting on your kindle we do we 1366 01:59:47,140 --> 01:59:51,140 we compete with your family you know we compete with functionally 1367 01:59:51,140 --> 01:59:55,140 every single thing that you do for you wanting to 1368 01:59:55,140 --> 01:59:59,140 hang with us on a Friday and do WAN Show instead of 1369 01:59:59,140 --> 02:00:03,140 boxing day shopping or doing whatever else it is that you might want to be doing today right 1370 02:00:03,140 --> 02:00:07,140 yeah and so if we are failing to 1371 02:00:07,140 --> 02:00:11,140 meet target and failing to meet payroll 1372 02:00:11,140 --> 02:00:15,140 people you know cutting their output by 10% sure as f**k isn't going to fix it 1373 02:00:15,140 --> 02:00:19,140 like very unlikely 1374 02:00:19,140 --> 02:00:23,140 we could probably find some efficiency gains in this case as well if this person 1375 02:00:23,140 --> 02:00:27,140 doesn't have any ownership stake and just doesn't really care about the company they're at or whatever 1376 02:00:27,140 --> 02:00:31,140 totally fair yeah get it 1377 02:00:31,140 --> 02:00:35,140 we're not trying to say it's necessarily unreasonable but it's also not going to write the ship 1378 02:00:35,140 --> 02:00:39,140 that and there's a 1379 02:00:39,140 --> 02:00:43,140 these are uncomfortable conversations because there's no win right and 1380 02:00:43,140 --> 02:00:47,140 much like the where's your line with piracy conversation that we had earlier 1381 02:00:47,140 --> 02:00:51,140 everyone's going to have a different line of what's okay here which is why 1382 02:00:51,140 --> 02:00:55,140 line was don't reduce my pay ever in any circumstance ever I will go somewhere else or reduce 1383 02:00:55,140 --> 02:00:59,140 my output and that's fine and someone else is going to have a different line and if your 1384 02:00:59,140 --> 02:01:03,140 team has a wild variety of different lines they will 1385 02:01:03,140 --> 02:01:07,140 this is going to be tough I don't think it's a guarantee that they will I think 1386 02:01:07,140 --> 02:01:11,140 there are teams out there usually smaller teams but I think there are teams out there 1387 02:01:11,140 --> 02:01:15,140 that are that's the one that are somewhat in line with how 1388 02:01:15,140 --> 02:01:19,140 they think and approach things all right time to speaking of teams 1389 02:01:19,140 --> 02:01:23,140 let's talk about the flow plane team we're going to do an early release 1390 02:01:23,140 --> 02:01:27,140 of a very special LTT video and we're going to do it 1391 02:01:27,140 --> 02:01:31,140 right now okay hold on 1392 02:01:31,140 --> 02:01:35,140 what's the special LTT video hold on I'm trying to find the stupid CMS button 1393 02:01:35,140 --> 02:01:39,140 there it is excuse me 1394 02:01:39,140 --> 02:01:41,140 um 1395 02:01:45,140 --> 02:01:49,140 okay I don't actually see it 1396 02:01:49,140 --> 02:01:53,140 I think it's supposed to be oh wow there's a bunch of videos here 1397 02:01:53,140 --> 02:01:57,140 control F for Kindle oh hey there it is 1398 02:01:57,140 --> 02:02:01,140 my son wanted a Kindle so I made him test them all 1399 02:02:01,140 --> 02:02:05,140 this is it folks this is the future 1400 02:02:05,140 --> 02:02:09,140 potentially it's up 1401 02:02:09,140 --> 02:02:13,140 it's posted I'm very 1402 02:02:13,140 --> 02:02:17,140 I'm excited to watch this I'm very interested what people think the very first 1403 02:02:17,140 --> 02:02:21,140 video not just hosted because he's been on camera 1404 02:02:21,140 --> 02:02:25,140 before but actually written by Linus 1405 02:02:25,140 --> 02:02:29,140 jr and I gotta say the link in the 1406 02:02:29,140 --> 02:02:33,140 dock was directly to the video why did you even look for it 1407 02:02:35,140 --> 02:02:39,140 look you're talking to the same guy that managed to accidentally filter gmail 1408 02:02:39,140 --> 02:02:43,140 addresses from his email so Dell partner laptop 1409 02:02:43,140 --> 02:02:45,140 that kind of show yeah 1410 02:02:47,140 --> 02:02:51,140 did you leak anything by going through all those posts by the way no I don't think so okay 1411 02:02:51,140 --> 02:02:55,140 that's cool I mean they're just videos that are coming by but yeah 1412 02:02:55,140 --> 02:02:59,140 yeah what doesn't matter 1413 02:02:59,140 --> 02:03:03,140 yeah I don't know I don't know what's coming down the pipeline maybe there's 1414 02:03:03,140 --> 02:03:07,140 embargo things maybe there isn't no no there's nothing embargo okay cool yeah should be fine 1415 02:03:07,140 --> 02:03:11,140 nice good to know but yeah dude 1416 02:03:11,140 --> 02:03:15,140 so cool 1417 02:03:15,140 --> 02:03:19,140 he he told me he was you know he's 1418 02:03:19,140 --> 02:03:23,140 become more interested in the family business over time 1419 02:03:23,140 --> 02:03:27,140 and and he told me he wanted to host a video 1420 02:03:27,140 --> 02:03:31,140 because he had a lot of fun doing the I'll buy my son any gaming 1421 02:03:31,140 --> 02:03:35,140 PC which was or any gaming handheld for his birthday one and 1422 02:03:35,140 --> 02:03:39,140 that was I think his first time being on camera solo when he did like the interview 1423 02:03:39,140 --> 02:03:43,140 portions of it and he was interested in it I basically went well look 1424 02:03:43,140 --> 02:03:47,140 I'm not gonna just like nepotism 1425 02:03:47,140 --> 02:03:51,140 you you don't just get to like run this company doesn't work 1426 02:03:51,140 --> 02:03:55,140 like that the audience won't accept it the team won't accept it I won't accept 1427 02:03:55,140 --> 02:03:59,140 it it doesn't work like I'll nepotism a shot but I will give him a shot 1428 02:03:59,140 --> 02:04:03,140 exactly seems very reasonable to me and I basically said okay 1429 02:04:03,140 --> 02:04:07,140 well I'll tell you what then no you can't just 1430 02:04:07,140 --> 02:04:11,140 host a video because that's the easiest possible layup 1431 02:04:11,140 --> 02:04:15,140 that I could give you we're not gonna do that but what you 1432 02:04:15,140 --> 02:04:19,140 can do is if you will if you'll write it if 1433 02:04:19,140 --> 02:04:23,140 you'll go through the process and I gotta give some credit to Mr. Nicholas 1434 02:04:23,140 --> 02:04:27,140 Ploof for being kind of a mentor coach for Randy 1435 02:04:27,140 --> 02:04:29,140 during this period 1436 02:04:31,140 --> 02:04:35,140 you'll go through the process and your assignment will be the least 1437 02:04:35,140 --> 02:04:39,140 glamorous thing that I can possibly think of 1438 02:04:39,140 --> 02:04:43,140 you will make a video on the new Kindle 1439 02:04:45,140 --> 02:04:49,140 and and and it wasn't just make that work it's a good 1440 02:04:49,140 --> 02:04:53,140 it's a really good sign and it wasn't just it wasn't just that I was choosing 1441 02:04:53,140 --> 02:04:57,140 like the most you know boring thing that I possibly could it was also something 1442 02:04:57,140 --> 02:05:01,140 that I know that he has personal experience with he reads a lot 1443 02:05:01,140 --> 02:05:05,140 and he reads physical books he reads on his 1444 02:05:05,140 --> 02:05:09,140 phone using the Kindle app and he reads on a Kindle 1445 02:05:09,140 --> 02:05:13,140 and so I was like okay well here's the new color soft here's a current 1446 02:05:13,140 --> 02:05:17,140 gen paper white here's both of our old 1447 02:05:17,140 --> 02:05:21,140 we have an old paper white and we have an old before it was paper white just like Kindle 1448 02:05:21,140 --> 02:05:25,140 the same one I did a video on like 10 years ago I want I will 1449 02:05:25,140 --> 02:05:29,140 lay out I should find the doc because I basically lay it out okay like 1450 02:05:29,140 --> 02:05:33,140 you know what is good about it what is bad about it what do other people like what do I 1451 02:05:33,140 --> 02:05:37,140 like what do other people not like what do I not like and I kind of laid out all the 1452 02:05:37,140 --> 02:05:41,140 questions kind of like a school assignment and I kind of went if you answer 1453 02:05:41,140 --> 02:05:45,140 all of these questions plus 1454 02:05:45,140 --> 02:05:49,140 contribute any little insights that might spring into your mind as you go 1455 02:05:49,140 --> 02:05:53,140 I think you will have enough bones for a good video that 1456 02:05:53,140 --> 02:05:57,140 our talented writing team and I can help you get this over the line to a 1457 02:05:57,140 --> 02:06:01,140 standard of quality that will be acceptable for LTT and he 1458 02:06:01,140 --> 02:06:05,140 did a really good job 1459 02:06:07,140 --> 02:06:11,140 nice like really good I'm genuinely excited to watch I'm going to spoil 1460 02:06:11,140 --> 02:06:15,140 the best line in the video don't do that no I'm going to spoil it because I think no I think 1461 02:06:15,140 --> 02:06:19,140 because that's how that's how previews work that's how modern media 1462 02:06:19,140 --> 02:06:23,140 just tell people the best part but I asked him 1463 02:06:23,140 --> 02:06:27,140 this as I was reviewing the script I went is this your line or was 1464 02:06:27,140 --> 02:06:31,140 this like something ploof added and he goes no no 1465 02:06:31,140 --> 02:06:35,140 yeah that was me and I asked ploof to I was like was this you he's like no 1466 02:06:35,140 --> 02:06:39,140 I don't think so I didn't actually change that much and I went oh okay interesting 1467 02:06:39,140 --> 02:06:43,140 and so in the conclusion he's talking about how the color soft is is pretty 1468 02:06:43,140 --> 02:06:47,140 expensive and you know the colors aren't that vibrant 1469 02:06:47,140 --> 02:06:51,140 but on the other hand going back to this 1470 02:06:51,140 --> 02:06:55,140 you know holding up the black and white one for you know comics and 1471 02:06:55,140 --> 02:06:59,140 manga and like like color media feels like 1472 02:06:59,140 --> 02:07:03,140 watching a fireworks display on a black and white TV 1473 02:07:03,140 --> 02:07:05,140 I was like 1474 02:07:06,140 --> 02:07:08,140 that's really good 1475 02:07:09,140 --> 02:07:13,140 that's a that's a good line right yeah why would even know 1476 02:07:13,140 --> 02:07:17,140 I would even think about black and white TVs and the fireworks display 1477 02:07:17,140 --> 02:07:21,140 the fireworks yeah why fireworks great line 1478 02:07:21,140 --> 02:07:25,140 it's a great line what the heck right 1479 02:07:25,140 --> 02:07:29,140 right huh and he doesn't seem like the type of person to just 1480 02:07:29,140 --> 02:07:33,140 LLM it oh no so that's actually just his line 1481 02:07:33,140 --> 02:07:37,140 I weird yeah cool but also 1482 02:07:37,140 --> 02:07:41,140 strange that is such a succinct way 1483 02:07:41,140 --> 02:07:45,140 it's great yeah it's like yeah you know it's not the most 1484 02:07:45,140 --> 02:07:49,140 vibrant color but going back to this is like it's a 1485 02:07:49,140 --> 02:07:53,140 generational gap in experience right writer dunked on by you 1486 02:07:53,140 --> 02:07:57,140 and now I'm going to get writer dunked on by your son that's so annoying 1487 02:07:57,140 --> 02:07:59,140 hahaha 1488 02:08:01,140 --> 02:08:05,140 smart kid and 1489 02:08:05,140 --> 02:08:09,140 anyway he did a really great job the hosting was pretty tough but 1490 02:08:09,140 --> 02:08:13,140 what's fun about the hosting was I realized 1491 02:08:13,140 --> 02:08:17,140 very early on in the coaching that I was doing with him that 1492 02:08:17,140 --> 02:08:21,140 right I've been meaning to do this because I'll do little 1493 02:08:21,140 --> 02:08:25,140 host coaching clinics once in a while we actually uploaded one of them that I did with 1494 02:08:25,140 --> 02:08:29,140 tap and Ryan Schraut back when they were here for the Intel arc 1495 02:08:29,140 --> 02:08:33,140 not an internal one but those guys yeah yeah and people 1496 02:08:33,140 --> 02:08:37,140 responded really positively to like Linus hosting tips 1497 02:08:37,140 --> 02:08:41,140 and so we're doing I asked our camera 1498 02:08:41,140 --> 02:08:45,140 operator I think it was Andrew I asked him to roll the whole time 1499 02:08:45,140 --> 02:08:49,140 and then I gave it over to Sammy to do a Floatplane exclusive 1500 02:08:49,140 --> 02:08:53,140 of me basically coaching my son on how to 1501 02:08:53,140 --> 02:08:57,140 host a video because he had no idea what he was doing Sammy said that extra will be up on Monday 1502 02:08:57,140 --> 02:09:01,140 on full plane that's cool yep 1503 02:09:01,140 --> 02:09:05,140 and it's funny because I don't realize how many little things 1504 02:09:05,140 --> 02:09:09,140 there are until I watch someone try to do it and I'm just like 1505 02:09:09,140 --> 02:09:13,140 okay hold on a second your emphasis words you're picking the wrong emphasis words 1506 02:09:13,140 --> 02:09:17,140 here's how you choose an emphasis word and 1507 02:09:17,140 --> 02:09:21,140 there's you know it's obviously still his first time but from the beginning of the 1508 02:09:21,140 --> 02:09:25,140 video to the end of the video there was like a market change 1509 02:09:25,140 --> 02:09:29,140 so if you're looking to improve your on-camera presentation skills 1510 02:09:29,140 --> 02:09:33,140 or even in person presentation skills maybe check out strongly recommend it 1511 02:09:33,140 --> 02:09:37,140 that's going to be an extra over on Floatplane so Sammy says on Monday 1512 02:09:37,140 --> 02:09:41,140 that's cool just which is pretty and cool which pretty cool 1513 02:09:41,140 --> 02:09:45,140 okay while we're over on Floatplane check out Luke week two yeah 1514 02:09:45,140 --> 02:09:49,140 where we had three exclusive centering around two week 1515 02:09:49,140 --> 02:09:51,140 I don't know 1516 02:09:53,140 --> 02:09:57,140 does it say that yeah that's what it says in there okay well there's a 1517 02:09:57,140 --> 02:10:01,140 Q&A video there's a 36 minute Q&A video there's 1518 02:10:01,140 --> 02:10:05,140 a one hour long effectively podcast with Riley where we talk about 1519 02:10:05,140 --> 02:10:09,140 AI stuff cool and then there is the the gaming 1520 02:10:09,140 --> 02:10:13,140 video how a new studio made the multiplayer game 1521 02:10:13,140 --> 02:10:17,140 of the year okay cool so you guys can check that out lots of Luke exclusives 1522 02:10:17,140 --> 02:10:19,140 and then what else we got 1523 02:10:21,140 --> 02:10:25,140 oh or maybe you want some more insights from this week's releases you can check out our closer look series 1524 02:10:25,140 --> 02:10:29,140 where Alfred our film production manager and Jordan go over the new ShortCircuit 1525 02:10:29,140 --> 02:10:33,140 with a set with facts that didn't make the final cut and some cut footage 1526 02:10:33,140 --> 02:10:37,140 from Mitchell's AMD upgrade all this and our entire back catalog at LMG.gd.fp 1527 02:10:37,140 --> 02:10:41,140 when I didn't watch them too much because it's Christmas week but you can get extras 1528 02:10:41,140 --> 02:10:45,140 there for when you do watch them heck yeah there you go 1529 02:10:45,140 --> 02:10:49,140 heck yeah views have been pretty slow this week yeah um but the last month 1530 02:10:49,140 --> 02:10:53,140 we've actually been like pretty good pretty like solid like like 1531 02:10:53,140 --> 02:10:57,140 we're back baby yeah but it's so volatile now it's crazy 1532 02:10:57,140 --> 02:11:01,140 it's also crazy that I saw what was happening this week and was like that's 1533 02:11:01,140 --> 02:11:05,140 probably fine yeah because that is not the reaction that would have happened before 1534 02:11:05,140 --> 02:11:09,140 yeah which I don't know maybe that's healthy I don't necessarily think so 1535 02:11:09,140 --> 02:11:13,140 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02:13:55,140 --> 02:13:59,140 when it was nice clothes because I never wore nice clothes like people would try to give 1577 02:13:59,140 --> 02:14:03,140 me like Sunday best they try to change your preferences based on 1578 02:14:03,140 --> 02:14:07,140 gifts that's not a fun one and then I'm just like nope 1579 02:14:09,140 --> 02:14:13,140 I feel like mine have always been pretty good 1580 02:14:13,140 --> 02:14:17,140 I forget what it is my family's like pretty sick when it comes to presents I suspect the 1581 02:14:17,140 --> 02:14:21,140 worst thing I've ever received has been like a book I already had 1582 02:14:21,140 --> 02:14:25,140 like I am sorry I'm not a good target for this yeah 1583 02:14:25,140 --> 02:14:29,140 I'd say like I probably notice it more 1584 02:14:29,140 --> 02:14:33,140 like for my kids like we had a family function this year where 1585 02:14:37,140 --> 02:14:41,140 a lot of care and attention went into certain 1586 02:14:41,140 --> 02:14:45,140 individuals that were of the same relationship 1587 02:14:45,140 --> 02:14:49,140 sort of tree to people 1588 02:14:49,140 --> 02:14:53,140 that were not made for my kids and I don't think my kids noticed 1589 02:14:53,140 --> 02:14:57,140 but I did that's cool that you didn't notice that's not very cool 1590 02:14:57,140 --> 02:15:01,140 yeah but I'd say 1591 02:15:01,140 --> 02:15:03,140 yeah I'd say that was more 1592 02:15:05,140 --> 02:15:09,140 yeah it's not really like me at that point no I think 1593 02:15:09,140 --> 02:15:13,140 the gifts that try to change you are probably the big one 1594 02:15:13,140 --> 02:15:17,140 I got a wrench in a tackle box one year I was nine 1595 02:15:19,140 --> 02:15:23,140 which you know for some nine-year-olds might 1596 02:15:23,140 --> 02:15:27,140 have been sick might not have been in this case 1597 02:15:27,140 --> 02:15:31,140 I guess I remember creating a Christmas list 1598 02:15:31,140 --> 02:15:35,140 that was basically five video games that I wanted and then explicitly 1599 02:15:35,140 --> 02:15:39,140 not receiving any video games 1600 02:15:39,140 --> 02:15:43,140 from my parents who 1601 02:15:43,140 --> 02:15:47,140 didn't like me playing video games and I was like right but like 1602 02:15:47,140 --> 02:15:51,140 it would have been less irritating if they weren't so 1603 02:15:51,140 --> 02:15:55,140 proud of the great choice they made and wanted me to be really excited 1604 02:15:55,140 --> 02:15:59,140 about it when I was like we got you a new petticoat 1605 02:15:59,140 --> 02:16:03,140 I want a gull of duty what I really wanted was Warcraft 2 1606 02:16:03,140 --> 02:16:07,140 I've definitely been I think this is a fairly standard in my household 1607 02:16:07,140 --> 02:16:11,140 so I don't think I'm going off the wall here but normally Christmas lists 1608 02:16:11,140 --> 02:16:15,140 are a highly respected 1609 02:16:15,140 --> 02:16:19,140 fallback almost unless you say otherwise 1610 02:16:19,140 --> 02:16:23,140 if you're like I really want this thing but Christmas list is usually like 1611 02:16:23,140 --> 02:16:27,140 oh you didn't naturally without really much effort 1612 02:16:27,140 --> 02:16:31,140 find anything therefore you can come to this list so if you go off the list it's like totally chill 1613 02:16:31,140 --> 02:16:35,140 and off the list is fine as long as it isn't passive aggressively trying 1614 02:16:35,140 --> 02:16:39,140 to change you totally it's a big part of that point 1615 02:16:39,140 --> 02:16:43,140 yeah yeah yeah for sure which I don't think I've ever received one of those 1616 02:16:43,140 --> 02:16:47,140 which is my whole thing where like I'm not I just I think I'm a bad target 1617 02:16:47,140 --> 02:16:51,140 for this Mitchell our customer service 1618 02:16:51,140 --> 02:16:55,140 wrap for LTD store got a sweet Christmas gift this year thanks to AMD 1619 02:16:55,140 --> 02:16:59,140 he got a sick Akatsuki 1620 02:16:59,140 --> 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your fine track slim with our link below and add on a couple of Ugreen smart 1641 02:18:23,140 --> 02:18:27,140 finders as well what does that mean 1642 02:18:27,140 --> 02:18:31,140 it means that it means that 1643 02:18:31,140 --> 02:18:35,140 it's fine it's fine it means that my sister has a baby 1644 02:18:35,140 --> 02:18:39,140 it is what it is but I definitely 1645 02:18:39,140 --> 02:18:43,140 found food 1646 02:18:43,140 --> 02:18:47,140 that has been down there long enough to decompose a little but not long enough 1647 02:18:47,140 --> 02:18:51,140 to be mummified which is what it is 1648 02:18:51,140 --> 02:18:55,140 I've had babies too and when I had babies 1649 02:18:55,140 --> 02:18:59,140 there were bits of food everywhere in my house too it's okay 1650 02:18:59,140 --> 02:19:01,140 it's okay 1651 02:19:03,140 --> 02:19:07,140 like soon alright 1652 02:19:07,140 --> 02:19:11,140 we already did this topic I understand we did almost none of the topics 1653 02:19:11,140 --> 02:19:15,140 yeah how that happened how does this always happen 1654 02:19:15,140 --> 02:19:19,140 I'm effectively almost out of time how does it happen Luke 1655 02:19:19,140 --> 02:19:21,140 to be fair I have seen zero complaints 1656 02:19:23,140 --> 02:19:25,140 sometimes it just do be how the show work 1657 02:19:27,140 --> 02:19:31,140 is anyone watching it though does anyone like the WAN Show 1658 02:19:31,140 --> 02:19:35,140 huh we should just not have topics then 1659 02:19:35,140 --> 02:19:39,140 yeah no one cares I think I can tell you guys to shut up 1660 02:19:39,140 --> 02:19:43,140 and move on more if you want 1661 02:19:43,140 --> 02:19:47,140 that's the opposite yeah Dan 1662 02:19:47,140 --> 02:19:51,140 don't even suggest it we did it 1663 02:19:51,140 --> 02:19:55,140 you did you know what I 1664 02:19:55,140 --> 02:19:59,140 I got you I tracked 1665 02:19:59,140 --> 02:20:03,140 how about you shut up and move on how about you shut up and move on 1666 02:20:03,140 --> 02:20:07,140 I can't even merge messages okay what do we 1667 02:20:07,140 --> 02:20:11,140 what do we want to do topics I guess 1668 02:20:11,140 --> 02:20:15,140 well no here okay how about this how about this Dan 1669 02:20:15,140 --> 02:20:19,140 do you have any curated merge messages that are specifically 1670 02:20:19,140 --> 02:20:23,140 for Luke I have one if I remember correctly 1671 02:20:23,140 --> 02:20:27,140 let's do that real quick Styles okay 1672 02:20:27,140 --> 02:20:31,140 I need to quickly well you do that I'm going to talk 1673 02:20:31,140 --> 02:20:35,140 about the North Korean infiltrator who was caught working in Amazon's IT 1674 02:20:35,140 --> 02:20:39,140 department thanks to keystroke delay oh yeah 1675 02:20:39,140 --> 02:20:43,140 Amazon says they caught a fake US based IT hire 1676 02:20:43,140 --> 02:20:47,140 after noticing unusual keystroke lag on the employees work laptop 1677 02:20:47,140 --> 02:20:51,140 which suggested the person wasn't actually working from the United States 1678 02:20:51,140 --> 02:20:55,140 after investigating the company concluded the worker was based in North Korea 1679 02:20:55,140 --> 02:20:59,140 and attempting to funnel money back to the regime through remote 1680 02:20:59,140 --> 02:21:03,140 work according to Amazon's security chief the delay tipped them off 1681 02:21:03,140 --> 02:21:07,140 that the laptop was being remotely controlled from overseas the company shut down the 1682 02:21:07,140 --> 02:21:11,140 account after a few days and says it has blocked thousands of similar attempts in 1683 02:21:11,140 --> 02:21:15,140 recent years often involving North Korean workers applying through US based 1684 02:21:15,140 --> 02:21:19,140 contractors as proxies yep the discussion question 1685 02:21:19,140 --> 02:21:23,140 is as remote work becomes more common how should companies balance trust 1686 02:21:23,140 --> 02:21:27,140 privacy and security when monitoring employees what a great discussion question 1687 02:21:27,140 --> 02:21:31,140 Dan go ahead and hit Luke with that merge message sure 1688 02:21:31,140 --> 02:21:35,140 hi pirates DLL love the show my co-founder 1689 02:21:35,140 --> 02:21:39,140 is about to become a dad Luke how did you 1690 02:21:39,140 --> 02:21:43,140 handle Linus becoming a father with the toughest part and Linus 1691 02:21:43,140 --> 02:21:47,140 what about people pirating your content 1692 02:21:47,140 --> 02:21:51,140 yeah I don't know uh I don't I don't actually 1693 02:21:51,140 --> 02:21:55,140 know necessarily what the first part of that question means like it's not what 1694 02:21:55,140 --> 02:21:59,140 I think they assume that you are working together more closely and Linus 1695 02:21:59,140 --> 02:22:03,140 became a dad and you know yeah I guess we didn't know each other that 1696 02:22:03,140 --> 02:22:07,140 well like he hadn't moved in yet but uh me having 1697 02:22:07,140 --> 02:22:11,140 a kid definitely impacted Luke more than most colleagues would I mean 1698 02:22:11,140 --> 02:22:15,140 yeah Randy crying at night literally so loud literally 1699 02:22:15,140 --> 02:22:19,140 kept Luke away so he was 1700 02:22:19,140 --> 02:22:23,140 he was a difficult baby he's making it up to us now because he's 1701 02:22:23,140 --> 02:22:27,140 a great loud speaker 1702 02:22:27,140 --> 02:22:31,140 food powered loud speaker um I don't know dude 1703 02:22:31,140 --> 02:22:35,140 uh there's a certain amount of things where it's just like 1704 02:22:35,140 --> 02:22:39,140 was I gonna stop working with him over that no therefore 1705 02:22:39,140 --> 02:22:43,140 is there really much left to think about I don't know 1706 02:22:43,140 --> 02:22:47,140 and I'm not trying to be you know offensive to the to the person 1707 02:22:47,140 --> 02:22:51,140 asking the question I just someone said why would Luke be affected 1708 02:22:51,140 --> 02:22:55,140 I mean I technically was but like uh 1709 02:22:55,140 --> 02:22:59,140 was it a bad way 1710 02:22:59,140 --> 02:23:03,140 like this is something that Linus wanted he still worked hard 1711 02:23:03,140 --> 02:23:07,140 and a lot I don't know 1712 02:23:07,140 --> 02:23:11,140 there's there's people in around you will make decisions 1713 02:23:11,140 --> 02:23:15,140 and do things in their lives that indirectly affect you to a certain 1714 02:23:15,140 --> 02:23:19,140 degree and you just have to not care for the most part 1715 02:23:19,140 --> 02:23:23,140 like it's or like find the good or decide 1716 02:23:23,140 --> 02:23:27,140 if this thing that they have done is too far for you and then just detach 1717 02:23:27,140 --> 02:23:31,140 Luke with the controversial live and let live take over yeah to be honest 1718 02:23:31,140 --> 02:23:35,140 I can't believe how controversial that has become 1719 02:23:35,140 --> 02:23:39,140 I guess live and let live is totally a thing and the world could use a little 1720 02:23:39,140 --> 02:23:43,140 bit more of it and like yeah his room shared a wall with mine and he cried a lot 1721 02:23:43,140 --> 02:23:47,140 and was really loud I also got really cheap rent and great food for free 1722 02:23:47,140 --> 02:23:51,140 it was technically wasn't there yeah there was technically 1723 02:23:51,140 --> 02:23:55,140 rent technically it like didn't cover the food let alone 1724 02:23:55,140 --> 02:23:59,140 it didn't make any sense if I were to use 200 bucks a month and I got 1725 02:23:59,140 --> 02:24:03,140 free food every meal insane and it was cooked 1726 02:24:03,140 --> 02:24:07,140 by someone else I didn't even have to cook it his salary also wasn't much at that time 1727 02:24:07,140 --> 02:24:11,140 because we just like did not have any money at that time yeah so 1728 02:24:11,140 --> 02:24:15,140 you know but like but I also strapped in knowing that no idea 1729 02:24:15,140 --> 02:24:19,140 how much of that was legal right oh not all of it 1730 02:24:19,140 --> 02:24:23,140 definitely not all of it I think we were paying monthly at that time too 1731 02:24:23,140 --> 02:24:27,140 I think so instead of bi-weekly I don't know yeah I mean again another thing 1732 02:24:27,140 --> 02:24:31,140 where it's just like I can make a big deal over this or 1733 02:24:31,140 --> 02:24:35,140 or I cannot which is an option 1734 02:24:35,140 --> 02:24:39,140 yeah I don't know it is possible so yeah it affected me I got slightly 1735 02:24:39,140 --> 02:24:43,140 worse sleep but I mean that's a constant throughout my entire 1736 02:24:43,140 --> 02:24:47,140 life but he still got his decent computer on a regular cadence I did 1737 02:24:47,140 --> 02:24:51,140 I did computer was good so that deal is still you know it's still alive 1738 02:24:51,140 --> 02:24:55,140 yeah hey speaking of 1739 02:24:55,140 --> 02:24:59,140 deal still being alive and the deal may be changing 1740 02:24:59,140 --> 02:25:03,140 this is probably the last major topic that Luke needs to be here for but 1741 02:25:03,140 --> 02:25:07,140 oh right how does Linus react to people pirating I think I remember the first time 1742 02:25:07,140 --> 02:25:11,140 there was a torrent of scrapyard wars being pretty amused also there 1743 02:25:11,140 --> 02:25:15,140 was some really annoying stuff at the beginning yeah there was some very 1744 02:25:15,140 --> 02:25:19,140 trying to start a new incredibly small 1745 02:25:19,140 --> 02:25:23,140 startup company thing and there was multiple attempts to just rip the whole 1746 02:25:23,140 --> 02:25:27,140 thing off over and over and over again it was very frustrating 1747 02:25:27,140 --> 02:25:31,140 so yeah I think it was a combination of feeling like we've made it 1748 02:25:31,140 --> 02:25:35,140 because we're important enough for people to pirate but also 1749 02:25:35,140 --> 02:25:39,140 being like yeah you know we're not like a giant media conglomerate really hard 1750 02:25:39,140 --> 02:25:43,140 like pay developers and stuff like we're sick just didn't do this yeah yeah so 1751 02:25:43,140 --> 02:25:47,140 both yeah okay so this is it 1752 02:25:47,140 --> 02:25:51,140 this is the last when show in its current 1753 02:25:51,140 --> 02:25:55,140 form oh really I have to 1754 02:25:55,140 --> 02:25:59,140 leave now I thought you had to go in like 20 minutes and no like five 1755 02:25:59,140 --> 02:26:03,140 oh awkward really 1756 02:26:03,140 --> 02:26:07,140 sorry I thought I said the week after next week I meant 1757 02:26:07,140 --> 02:26:11,140 next week from now we'll talk about it next week 1758 02:26:11,140 --> 02:26:15,140 are you kidding me you just dated that no no we'll talk about it next week 1759 02:26:15,140 --> 02:26:19,140 browser extensions oh my god 1760 02:26:19,140 --> 02:26:23,140 find boom.me everything's gonna be fine 1761 02:26:23,140 --> 02:26:27,140 everything's gonna be fine browser extensions 1762 02:26:27,140 --> 02:26:31,140 we will miss you guys stop everything's gonna be fine 1763 02:26:31,140 --> 02:26:35,140 everything's gonna be fine it's been a good run 1764 02:26:35,140 --> 02:26:39,140 browser extensions are selling your conversations for advertising purposes 1765 02:26:39,140 --> 02:26:43,140 several popular several popular 1766 02:26:43,140 --> 02:26:47,140 browser extensions with more than 8 million total users 1767 02:26:47,140 --> 02:26:51,140 have been caught collecting and selling full AI chat conversations 1768 02:26:51,140 --> 02:26:55,140 according to security researchers at COI the biggest offenders 1769 02:26:55,140 --> 02:26:59,140 include urban VPN proxy one click VPN proxy 1770 02:26:59,140 --> 02:27:03,140 urban browser guard and urban ad blocker available on both the Chrome Web Store 1771 02:27:03,140 --> 02:27:07,140 and Microsoft Edge add-ons together these extensions intercept 1772 02:27:07,140 --> 02:27:11,140 conversations with chatbots even when VPN or ad blocking 1773 02:27:11,140 --> 02:27:15,140 features are disabled despite advertising 1774 02:27:15,140 --> 02:27:19,140 privacy and AI protections the extensions inject scripts 1775 02:27:19,140 --> 02:27:23,140 that copy entire conversations and send them to servers that are tied to the developers 1776 02:27:23,140 --> 02:27:27,140 where the data is used for marketing analytics the only way to stop the collection is to disable 1777 02:27:27,140 --> 02:27:31,140 or uninstall the extensions entirely several of them were even marked as featured 1778 02:27:31,140 --> 02:27:35,140 by Google and Microsoft raising questions about extension store oversight 1779 02:27:35,140 --> 02:27:39,140 wow that's pretty rough 1780 02:27:39,140 --> 02:27:43,140 did you do it on purpose no 1781 02:27:43,140 --> 02:27:47,140 I thought we had like 20 minutes I asked you for a hard out 1782 02:27:47,140 --> 02:27:51,140 and you said soon yeah 1783 02:27:51,140 --> 02:27:55,140 that means like 8 to 12 months 1784 02:27:55,140 --> 02:27:59,140 working here I'm currently messaging to make sure 1785 02:27:59,140 --> 02:28:03,140 but like the original hard out was 1145 which is in 3 minutes now 1786 02:28:03,140 --> 02:28:07,140 Google has closed compatibility for the Sega Dreamcast's 1787 02:28:07,140 --> 02:28:11,140 25 year old web browser killing it 1788 02:28:11,140 --> 02:28:15,140 4 people cried out in terror 1789 02:28:15,140 --> 02:28:19,140 and then were silenced what I can't figure out is how they killed it 1790 02:28:19,140 --> 02:28:23,140 what did they do, what changed I've looked up like a couple different articles on this 1791 02:28:23,140 --> 02:28:27,140 I haven't done enough research but like 1792 02:28:27,140 --> 02:28:31,140 what did Google do what caused this to happen 1793 02:28:31,140 --> 02:28:35,140 Big G's services no longer respond but that doesn't mean that they killed the web browser 1794 02:28:37,140 --> 02:28:41,140 I mean probably killed it a little 1795 02:28:41,140 --> 02:28:45,140 yeah probably killed it a little there are still apparently fan supported search engine 1796 02:28:45,140 --> 02:28:49,140 and game servers that do work on the Dreamcast which is pretty crazy 1797 02:28:49,140 --> 02:28:53,140 our discussion question here is do you think it's important for modern web companies to maintain compatibility 1798 02:28:53,140 --> 02:28:57,140 with like quarter century old devices what is an appropriate length of support 1799 02:28:57,140 --> 02:29:01,140 about this right I don't think that either Luke or I 1800 02:29:01,140 --> 02:29:05,140 is in the camp that whether it's a game developer or whether it's a 1801 02:29:05,140 --> 02:29:09,140 service provider that you're obligated to support 1802 02:29:09,140 --> 02:29:13,140 stuff forever that doesn't have an ongoing forever payment 1803 02:29:13,140 --> 02:29:17,140 we just the part that we disagree 1804 02:29:17,140 --> 02:29:21,140 about with the current way that the industry does things is that we think there should be 1805 02:29:21,140 --> 02:29:25,140 a path to users maintaining it themselves if it's so 1806 02:29:25,140 --> 02:29:29,140 important to them and this mostly applies I think to 1807 02:29:29,140 --> 02:29:33,140 game servers for instance if there's a way for it to go self-hosted or to hand over the code 1808 02:29:33,140 --> 02:29:37,140 to the community to continue to run it then we're totally fine with them saying hey yeah this is 1809 02:29:37,140 --> 02:29:41,140 not financially viable anymore because businesses gotta 1810 02:29:41,140 --> 02:29:45,140 survive um 1811 02:29:45,140 --> 02:29:49,140 what what oh nothing 1812 02:29:49,140 --> 02:29:53,140 you look like you're making a face so yeah downer but also I totally 1813 02:29:53,140 --> 02:29:57,140 get it I don't think that I would fire up a dream cast tomorrow with the expectation that the web 1814 02:29:57,140 --> 02:29:59,140 features would would work 1815 02:30:01,140 --> 02:30:05,140 I think we what hello is the expected time 1816 02:30:05,140 --> 02:30:07,140 still the same 1817 02:30:11,140 --> 02:30:15,140 okay bye is chat asking you to try to push it or what 1818 02:30:15,140 --> 02:30:19,140 no I was trying to figure it out because sometimes schedule things move and whatnot 1819 02:30:19,140 --> 02:30:23,140 ah yes but and they weren't responding to messages I sent them quite a few 1820 02:30:23,140 --> 02:30:27,140 ah yes probably driving or something really probably very reasonable yeah it makes 1821 02:30:27,140 --> 02:30:31,140 sense but but not responding anyways um I called and now I know that I do 1822 02:30:31,140 --> 02:30:35,140 have to leave cool good 1823 02:30:37,140 --> 02:30:41,140 you know that's probably where I got noon from it's probably your arrival 1824 02:30:41,140 --> 02:30:45,140 time not your departure time that's probably true 1825 02:30:45,140 --> 02:30:49,140 so whoops I might have even just said noon at one point because that 1826 02:30:49,140 --> 02:30:53,140 might have been what it was at one fact um there was also an arrival 1827 02:30:53,140 --> 02:30:55,140 versus departure time 1828 02:30:57,140 --> 02:30:59,140 and I missed my flight 1829 02:31:03,140 --> 02:31:07,140 so that was cool I went down 1830 02:31:07,140 --> 02:31:11,140 to Cabo for Christmas I decided I shouldn't say I 1831 02:31:11,140 --> 02:31:15,140 Yvonne and I decided to do something absolutely crazy 1832 02:31:15,140 --> 02:31:19,140 this year and we treated um 1833 02:31:19,140 --> 02:31:23,140 my siblings and so's and kids and her 1834 02:31:23,140 --> 02:31:27,140 sibling and so and kids to 1835 02:31:27,140 --> 02:31:31,140 ah four days in Mexico for for Christmas so it was a pretty 1836 02:31:31,140 --> 02:31:35,140 sick pretty incredible experience a lot of fun 1837 02:31:35,140 --> 02:31:39,140 um as siblings we've we've all been like 1838 02:31:39,140 --> 02:31:43,140 busy you know and it's it's easy to take family 1839 02:31:43,140 --> 02:31:47,140 for granted but I think that um losing my sister 1840 02:31:47,140 --> 02:31:51,140 uh really sharpened 1841 02:31:51,140 --> 02:31:55,140 my focus on the 1842 02:31:55,140 --> 02:31:59,140 the speed with which things that you 1843 02:31:59,140 --> 02:32:03,140 assume that you've had your whole life and you assume will always be there can be 1844 02:32:03,140 --> 02:32:07,140 stripped out of your life and so we um 1845 02:32:07,140 --> 02:32:11,140 yeah so we kind of surprised everyone and we went 1846 02:32:11,140 --> 02:32:15,140 hey guess what we're we're doing it let's let's do 1847 02:32:15,140 --> 02:32:19,140 it we're doing something crazy and it was a lot of fun we we did it all inclusive 1848 02:32:19,140 --> 02:32:23,140 just because when you've got like over a 1849 02:32:23,140 --> 02:32:27,140 dozen people my god coordinating every stupid meal 1850 02:32:27,140 --> 02:32:31,140 especially with young kids there's a lot of young kids so like uh no 1851 02:32:31,140 --> 02:32:35,140 but I think you just run over and grab some food when they want it or whatever like cool makes life 1852 02:32:35,140 --> 02:32:39,140 a lot easier we did go off resort once you got to go go 1853 02:32:39,140 --> 02:32:43,140 yeah okay okay speaking of family and uh do you want to just call me to do the thing 1854 02:32:43,140 --> 02:32:47,140 do what thing at the end oh yeah yeah sure okay sounds good all right cool see you later 1855 02:32:47,140 --> 02:32:51,140 okay see ya anyway yeah we we went down we we did 1856 02:32:51,140 --> 02:32:55,140 one cool excursion that was oh no 1857 02:32:55,140 --> 02:32:59,140 just leave the thing no I don't I don't like it just framed on me I actually 1858 02:32:59,140 --> 02:33:03,140 I I sent a note to one of the editors one of our one of our videos recently 1859 02:33:03,140 --> 02:33:07,140 just had like too much zooming in on me I'm 1860 02:33:07,140 --> 02:33:11,140 pushing 40 dude I we don't need to be zoomed that close in on me anymore 1861 02:33:11,140 --> 02:33:15,140 this is a good this is a good framing I need 1862 02:33:15,140 --> 02:33:17,140 to take more more Polaroid pictures you know 1863 02:33:19,140 --> 02:33:23,140 well okay Dan's doing something here shoot I don't have the pictures 1864 02:33:23,140 --> 02:33:27,140 on uh thank you for that Dan that's that's incredibly 1865 02:33:27,140 --> 02:33:31,140 helpful I don't have the pictures on this phone I took along a separate 1866 02:33:31,140 --> 02:33:35,140 um a separate phone for for pictures and videos and stuff because we're actually going to be 1867 02:33:35,140 --> 02:33:39,140 uploading a like a family vlog from it um 1868 02:33:39,140 --> 02:33:43,140 and we did this like turtle release thing here why don't you just be 1869 02:33:43,140 --> 02:33:47,140 my co-host now we'll just drag you over there oh yeah you're good 1870 02:33:47,140 --> 02:33:51,140 but you can just you can just move the window over there uh so yeah we did this 1871 02:33:51,140 --> 02:33:55,140 um there's a there's a turtle conservation group 1872 02:33:55,140 --> 02:33:59,140 that allows you to go and without disturbing 1873 02:33:59,140 --> 02:34:03,140 anything like you're not allowed to touch the baby turtles and you're not allowed to interfere 1874 02:34:03,140 --> 02:34:07,140 with them imprinting on the beach where they were born because they have to come 1875 02:34:07,140 --> 02:34:11,140 back in order to okay that's an option too 1876 02:34:13,140 --> 02:34:17,140 sure um anyway so it's like a conservation 1877 02:34:17,140 --> 02:34:21,140 thing but you can do like uh you can do like a turtle 1878 02:34:21,140 --> 02:34:25,140 release into the ocean thing so you hold a like born 1879 02:34:25,140 --> 02:34:29,140 that day turtle in a bowl so you don't touch it so you don't hurt it 1880 02:34:29,140 --> 02:34:33,140 and you don't get any bacteria on your hands and then you like tip the bowl 1881 02:34:33,140 --> 02:34:37,140 and they and you watch them like crawl into the into the waves 1882 02:34:37,140 --> 02:34:41,140 and they were saying that um thanks to the work that they're doing the survival 1883 02:34:41,140 --> 02:34:45,140 rate goes from they estimate about one in a thousand reach adulthood in the wild 1884 02:34:45,140 --> 02:34:49,140 to they say about six to seven in a thousand because they'll go 1885 02:34:49,140 --> 02:34:53,140 out of their way to um to release them at times 1886 02:34:53,140 --> 02:34:57,140 when there's not a lot of seagulls and they'll uh they kind of oversee it 1887 02:34:57,140 --> 02:35:01,140 so they're less likely to get picked off on the way uh to the 1888 02:35:01,140 --> 02:35:05,140 beach from the from the nest which is pretty cool did I just do it again 1889 02:35:05,140 --> 02:35:09,140 for crying out loud um yeah 1890 02:35:09,140 --> 02:35:13,140 that literally came up during the presentation before we did the 1891 02:35:13,140 --> 02:35:17,140 release thing now that I think about it uh was some little kid 1892 02:35:17,140 --> 02:35:21,140 who you are now on on par with in terms of your your joke 1893 02:35:21,140 --> 02:35:25,140 quality um was like six seven 1894 02:35:25,140 --> 02:35:29,140 everyone kind of went because it's over now it's a six seven party is 1895 02:35:29,140 --> 02:35:33,140 officially completely over has been for six seven 1896 02:35:33,140 --> 02:35:37,140 weeks at this point um 1897 02:35:37,140 --> 02:35:41,140 lg is responding swiftly to user 1898 02:35:41,140 --> 02:35:45,140 backlash will allow users to remove the microsoft 1899 02:35:45,140 --> 02:35:49,140 copilot link from their tv's there's a whole topic that was written on this 1900 02:35:49,140 --> 02:35:53,140 but I think that that's probably um all we need to say 1901 02:35:53,140 --> 02:35:57,140 basically it's not a built-in tv app it is just a shortcut to microsoft's 1902 02:35:57,140 --> 02:36:01,140 outlet web app that opens in the tv's browser and um 1903 02:36:01,140 --> 02:36:05,140 sorry about that also the microphone input was only able to activate with 1904 02:36:05,140 --> 02:36:09,140 explicit user consent we're not sure when you'll be able 1905 02:36:09,140 --> 02:36:13,140 to delete it but it will be able to be deleted so that's good thank you lg 1906 02:36:13,140 --> 02:36:17,140 for responding to the outrage in a way that is acceptable 1907 02:36:17,140 --> 02:36:21,140 very nice very nice uh no no yes I know 1908 02:36:21,140 --> 02:36:25,140 you can only hide it shraft 2k but they're changing that that's why we're bringing it up 1909 02:36:25,140 --> 02:36:29,140 uh okay yeah this is something 1910 02:36:29,140 --> 02:36:33,140 you know what let's push the reboot 1911 02:36:33,140 --> 02:36:37,140 rewind update to next week we can do that sure okay 1912 02:36:37,140 --> 02:36:41,140 next week yeah sorry I'm getting a lot of merge messages 1913 02:36:41,140 --> 02:36:45,140 today uh yeah I know screwdrivers are very 1914 02:36:45,140 --> 02:36:49,140 very popular for some reason well people really like 1915 02:36:49,140 --> 02:36:53,140 they've been so excited for them people like screwing it's it's how the whole 1916 02:36:53,140 --> 02:36:57,140 human race survived all these millennia that's true some 1917 02:36:57,140 --> 02:37:01,140 yep they're kind of you know I've certainly read about that yep 1918 02:37:01,140 --> 02:37:05,140 read the articles about it right and the economist um 1919 02:37:05,140 --> 02:37:09,140 um why don't we just do merge messages ah you know what 1920 02:37:09,140 --> 02:37:13,140 no let's go through this last one okay china's 10 cent gains access to the 1921 02:37:13,140 --> 02:37:17,140 band NVIDIA blackwell b200 chips by leveraging a 1922 02:37:17,140 --> 02:37:21,140 rental loophole in us export controls 10 cent is apparently 1923 02:37:21,140 --> 02:37:25,140 accessing an NVIDIA's most advanced ai chips by renting computing power 1924 02:37:25,140 --> 02:37:29,140 overseas rather than buying the hardware directly according to a financial 1925 02:37:29,140 --> 02:37:33,140 times report the chips are housed in data centers in japan and australia and 1926 02:37:33,140 --> 02:37:37,140 owned by a japanese company called data section which rents the gps to customers 1927 02:37:37,140 --> 02:37:41,140 through long-term contracts this arrangement allows 10 cent to legally 1928 02:37:41,140 --> 02:37:45,140 sidestep us export restrictions that block NVIDIA's top 1929 02:37:45,140 --> 02:37:49,140 chips from being sold into china data section has signed more than 1.2 1930 02:37:49,140 --> 02:37:53,140 million dollars in contracts tied largely to 10 cent and now 1931 02:37:53,140 --> 02:37:57,140 controls around 15 000 NVIDIA blackwell gpus 1932 02:37:57,140 --> 02:38:01,140 rapidly turning the company into one of asia's largest so-called neocloud 1933 02:38:01,140 --> 02:38:05,140 providers data section says demand is so high that even 1934 02:38:05,140 --> 02:38:09,140 regulatory changes wouldn't hurt much as its CEO put it access to 1935 02:38:09,140 --> 02:38:13,140 high end GPU capacity is a very sexy asset 1936 02:38:15,140 --> 02:38:19,140 oh man yeah our discussion question is should companies be allowed to legally work around export 1937 02:38:19,140 --> 02:38:23,140 controls by renting computing power overseas or do you feel this undermines the purpose 1938 02:38:23,140 --> 02:38:27,140 of those restrictions i mean obviously it undermines the purpose of the restrictions 1939 02:38:27,140 --> 02:38:31,140 but it just is the latest of many 1940 02:38:31,140 --> 02:38:35,140 many many examples of times when 1941 02:38:35,140 --> 02:38:39,140 legislation just doesn't 1942 02:38:39,140 --> 02:38:43,140 move as fast as technological innovation 1943 02:38:43,140 --> 02:38:47,140 and in some cases i end up being really 1944 02:38:47,140 --> 02:38:51,140 glad that it doesn't but in other cases it's obvious 1945 02:38:51,140 --> 02:38:55,140 that it is interfering with the abilities of governments to 1946 02:38:55,140 --> 02:38:59,140 manage their their resources and 1947 02:38:59,140 --> 02:39:03,140 i yeah i don't i don't know sort of if i'm rooting for them to be able 1948 02:39:03,140 --> 02:39:07,140 to do that better so a lot of the time i really do think that it has been a benefit 1949 02:39:07,140 --> 02:39:11,140 to the consumers but in other cases where the innovation 1950 02:39:11,140 --> 02:39:15,140 is not a benefit to consumers like or i shouldn't say ai is 1951 02:39:15,140 --> 02:39:19,140 not a benefit to consumers but where it is 1952 02:39:19,140 --> 02:39:23,140 largely impacting consumers in a negative fashion with all the 1953 02:39:23,140 --> 02:39:27,140 data harvesting and the you know encouragement to 1954 02:39:27,140 --> 02:39:31,140 you know off themselves of users and the romantic entanglements 1955 02:39:31,140 --> 02:39:35,140 and all the all the things that have not been properly studied about this ai rollout 1956 02:39:35,140 --> 02:39:39,140 i do feel like legislation would move a little bit faster is there 1957 02:39:39,140 --> 02:39:43,140 a reason that luke's photo is in black and white and everyone 1958 02:39:43,140 --> 02:39:47,140 is saying rip luke in the chat Floatplane is asking for it 1959 02:39:47,140 --> 02:39:51,140 i i don't know you do know that they are not your boss 1960 02:39:51,140 --> 02:39:55,140 but they do funny things sometimes i mean they do 1961 02:39:55,140 --> 02:39:59,140 definitely do funny things okay after pay respects Floatplane chat 1962 02:39:59,140 --> 02:40:03,140 uh he's not dead he's at christmas di 1963 02:40:05,140 --> 02:40:09,140 okay um 1964 02:40:09,140 --> 02:40:13,140 cool good chat 1965 02:40:13,140 --> 02:40:17,140 i mean it's true we love luke we do we do we do love 1966 02:40:17,140 --> 02:40:19,140 luke um 1967 02:40:21,140 --> 02:40:25,140 stop you're gonna make me think the stream's gone down why don't we do some merge 1968 02:40:25,140 --> 02:40:29,140 messages sure we're going to when after dark let's do that 1969 02:40:29,140 --> 02:40:33,140 although it just feels like when dark now 1970 02:40:33,140 --> 02:40:37,140 uh let's see there's the button 1971 02:40:37,140 --> 02:40:41,140 holy crap there's still a ton of incoming merge messages 1972 02:40:41,140 --> 02:40:45,140 yes um it's been quite heavy today 1973 02:40:45,140 --> 02:40:49,140 alright let's see what we've got here did we do this one 1974 02:40:49,140 --> 02:40:53,140 yes we did hey dll asses last year so i'll ask again now 1975 02:40:53,140 --> 02:40:57,140 what 2026 releases are you most looking forward to 1976 02:40:57,140 --> 02:41:01,140 oh man if you'd asked me this like 1977 02:41:01,140 --> 02:41:05,140 a month and a half ago right like i might have said 1978 02:41:05,140 --> 02:41:09,140 oh yeah month and a half ago 1979 02:41:09,140 --> 02:41:13,140 i'd have probably said steam frame 1980 02:41:13,140 --> 02:41:17,140 because i'm just like i'm a vr nerd i'm really looking forward to 1981 02:41:17,140 --> 02:41:21,140 um not having a tether i think it's gonna 1982 02:41:21,140 --> 02:41:25,140 legitimately make me use it more like if i could just bring a dongle 1983 02:41:25,140 --> 02:41:29,140 with me and play lighter vr games on like my strict halo laptop 1984 02:41:29,140 --> 02:41:33,140 man how cool is that like i can like no 1985 02:41:33,140 --> 02:41:37,140 no lighthouses to set up i don't know man it's 1986 02:41:37,140 --> 02:41:41,140 flipping cool but i'm i'm deeply worried 1987 02:41:41,140 --> 02:41:45,140 about what pricing is going to be like for the steam machine 1988 02:41:45,140 --> 02:41:49,140 for the steam frame for basically anything 1989 02:41:49,140 --> 02:41:53,140 that is going to be coming out in 2026 unless 1990 02:41:53,140 --> 02:41:57,140 the bubble crashes um 1991 02:41:57,140 --> 02:42:01,140 like i okay i think that video that we did 1992 02:42:01,140 --> 02:42:05,140 uh where where david and i sort of 1993 02:42:05,140 --> 02:42:09,140 reverse engineered what the pricing will be of the steam machine i think it's out 1994 02:42:09,140 --> 02:42:13,140 i i think i think there's no way we got it right 1995 02:42:13,140 --> 02:42:17,140 because we kind of assumed that the market had already priced in 1996 02:42:17,140 --> 02:42:21,140 the lack of availability that was upcoming but it looks like that is not 1997 02:42:21,140 --> 02:42:25,140 the case and things are going to continue to get worse server 1998 02:42:25,140 --> 02:42:29,140 um we also haven't accounted for the 1999 02:42:29,140 --> 02:42:33,140 potential price increases on GPU's like i didn't think it was going to be so 2000 02:42:33,140 --> 02:42:37,140 bad that we weren't going to be able to get enough GDDR um 2001 02:42:37,140 --> 02:42:41,140 oh speaking of which we haven't done our weekly b580 2002 02:42:41,140 --> 02:42:45,140 check guys seriously GPU's are going to go up 2003 02:42:47,140 --> 02:42:51,140 if you can still get the home my god you can still get it if you need a GPU 2004 02:42:51,140 --> 02:42:55,140 like a decent GPU right now go for it 2005 02:42:55,140 --> 02:42:59,140 um i forget what our new egg affiliate link is Dan can 2006 02:42:59,140 --> 02:43:03,140 you throw it in the chat oh i people also don't know no float planes already 2007 02:43:03,140 --> 02:43:07,140 posting it oh they're so good it's LMG.gg 2008 02:43:07,140 --> 02:43:11,140 slash new egg guys if you need a GPU 2009 02:43:11,140 --> 02:43:15,140 you will thank me that you picked 2010 02:43:15,140 --> 02:43:19,140 up a b580 before pricing went stupid because even 2011 02:43:19,140 --> 02:43:23,140 though Intel is rumored to be announcing the b770 2012 02:43:23,140 --> 02:43:27,140 like at ces or sometime very soon um what i suspect 2013 02:43:27,140 --> 02:43:31,140 is that they will build in the RAM shortage pricing 2014 02:43:31,140 --> 02:43:35,140 to that new one and they may even make adjustments to the 2015 02:43:35,140 --> 02:43:39,140 b570 and the b580 i don't know any of this for sure which is 2016 02:43:39,140 --> 02:43:43,140 why i'm able to speculate on it without you know breaching any kind of 2017 02:43:43,140 --> 02:43:47,140 nondisclosure agreement um but i strongly suspect 2018 02:43:47,140 --> 02:43:51,140 that if you don't pick up this onyx lumie arc b580 2019 02:43:51,140 --> 02:43:55,140 with 12 gigs of GDDR 6 for 239 2020 02:43:55,140 --> 02:43:59,140 99 now with the Intel holiday 2021 02:43:59,140 --> 02:44:03,140 bundle which is i remind you 2022 02:44:03,140 --> 02:44:07,140 battlefield 6 pick one of 2023 02:44:07,140 --> 02:44:11,140 battlefield 6 assassins creed shadows dying light the beast 2024 02:44:11,140 --> 02:44:15,140 or sydmire civilization 7 you get this card 2025 02:44:15,140 --> 02:44:19,140 with this amount of RAM for 240 us dollars 2026 02:44:19,140 --> 02:44:23,140 and you get a full price triple a game 2027 02:44:23,140 --> 02:44:27,140 you will not be finding a better deal 2028 02:44:29,140 --> 02:44:33,140 i'm gonna say it next year i i really don't think so 2029 02:44:33,140 --> 02:44:37,140 it's possible it's possible but i i really 2030 02:44:37,140 --> 02:44:41,140 sincerely doubt it so now is a really good time to pick up one of these 2031 02:44:41,140 --> 02:44:45,140 and uh and get a get a decent GPU for a decent price i mean 2032 02:44:45,140 --> 02:44:49,140 what even is 12 gigs of RAM worth right now 2033 02:44:49,140 --> 02:44:53,140 okay so let's go with like a somewhat equivalent you know what's 2034 02:44:53,140 --> 02:44:57,140 16 gigs of DDR5 so around 200 dollars right now 2035 02:44:57,140 --> 02:45:01,140 for 16 gigs of RAM so you're getting 12 gigs 2036 02:45:01,140 --> 02:45:05,140 of RAM which let's call 150 dollars 2037 02:45:05,140 --> 02:45:09,140 right you're getting battlefield for which is let's call 2038 02:45:09,140 --> 02:45:13,140 50 bucks so 200 dollars you're basically paying 2039 02:45:13,140 --> 02:45:17,140 40 dollars for an arc b580 GPU 2040 02:45:17,140 --> 02:45:21,140 okay crazy 2041 02:45:21,140 --> 02:45:25,140 crazy there's no way that Intel can be making money on that 2042 02:45:25,140 --> 02:45:29,140 die and those vrms and that cooler at that point 2043 02:45:29,140 --> 02:45:33,140 like i just just do it someone says that was 2 by 2044 02:45:33,140 --> 02:45:37,140 16 yes and i did a really amazing thing where i took 2045 02:45:37,140 --> 02:45:41,140 the price and i cut it in half to represent 16 gigs of RAM 2046 02:45:41,140 --> 02:45:45,140 to be 200 dollars ish it was cool you did math 2047 02:45:45,140 --> 02:45:49,140 on purpose? i know right hi 2048 02:45:49,140 --> 02:45:53,140 binus book and ban i'm working on ownership 2049 02:45:53,140 --> 02:45:57,140 of an amazon dsp and need advice on balancing 2050 02:45:57,140 --> 02:46:01,140 employee care with managing razor thin margins 2051 02:46:01,140 --> 02:46:05,140 in the early stages of the company hello from vegas 2052 02:46:05,140 --> 02:46:09,140 oh it's hard man i don't think 2053 02:46:09,140 --> 02:46:13,140 we've ever found the right balance and i think even 2054 02:46:13,140 --> 02:46:17,140 if we found the right balance there would be people who don't agree 2055 02:46:17,140 --> 02:46:21,140 we're finally doing it we're finally working on how does LMG 2056 02:46:21,140 --> 02:46:25,140 spend money which people have asked for every single time 2057 02:46:25,140 --> 02:46:29,140 we've done how does LMG make money and what i can tell you 2058 02:46:29,140 --> 02:46:33,140 is that when we get down into the 2059 02:46:33,140 --> 02:46:37,140 the details of you know yeah like how much 2060 02:46:37,140 --> 02:46:41,140 of it goes to taxes how much of it goes to 2061 02:46:41,140 --> 02:46:45,140 net profit for investment for next year 2062 02:46:45,140 --> 02:46:47,140 for shareholder dividends 2063 02:46:49,140 --> 02:46:53,140 when we get into these details i guarantee you 2064 02:46:53,140 --> 02:46:57,140 that even though we are well under 2065 02:46:57,140 --> 02:47:01,140 what many of the companies you don't hate take for profit 2066 02:47:01,140 --> 02:47:05,140 there will be people who are mad about it there's going to be people that say 2067 02:47:05,140 --> 02:47:09,140 well you should have done more there's people that would look at your question 2068 02:47:09,140 --> 02:47:13,140 and say well you know you're the owner 2069 02:47:13,140 --> 02:47:17,140 it should be 100% employee care and then there's going to be other people 2070 02:47:17,140 --> 02:47:21,140 that you ask on the more business monster side that are going to say 2071 02:47:21,140 --> 02:47:25,140 none of that matters outsource to cheaper labor 2072 02:47:25,140 --> 02:47:29,140 and get your margins up right away or i don't know 2073 02:47:29,140 --> 02:47:33,140 it's just like the conversation we had earlier 2074 02:47:33,140 --> 02:47:37,140 where people are not going to 2075 02:47:37,140 --> 02:47:41,140 agree on this everyone's going to have a completely different 2076 02:47:41,140 --> 02:47:43,140 line 2077 02:47:47,140 --> 02:47:51,140 oh wait there was one thing i was going to say 2078 02:47:51,140 --> 02:47:55,140 an important part of it though is communication with your team 2079 02:47:55,140 --> 02:47:59,140 laying out very clearly what the reward is 2080 02:47:59,140 --> 02:48:03,140 and what it can be and then following through on that 2081 02:48:03,140 --> 02:48:07,140 if you're asking people to make any kind of personal sacrifice okay sorry go ahead 2082 02:48:07,140 --> 02:48:11,140 sure thing for Linus do you feel like you will ever 2083 02:48:11,140 --> 02:48:15,140 find a phone that you will be happy with it seems like with each phone you find 2084 02:48:15,140 --> 02:48:19,140 nitpicks or issues do you think having too many 2085 02:48:19,140 --> 02:48:23,140 so many opportunities to upgrade effects i assume this 2086 02:48:23,140 --> 02:48:27,140 no if anything i mean i think i probably upgrade my phone 2087 02:48:27,140 --> 02:48:31,140 less than almost any other electronics youtuber who covers 2088 02:48:31,140 --> 02:48:35,140 phones i try not to i really don't like it i mean 2089 02:48:35,140 --> 02:48:39,140 i've used the note 9 for like 4 years or something like that 2090 02:48:39,140 --> 02:48:43,140 or 3 years will i find one that i'm happy with 2091 02:48:43,140 --> 02:48:47,140 i mean as long as designs continue to 2092 02:48:47,140 --> 02:48:51,140 and no i don't think so because a lot of the 2093 02:48:51,140 --> 02:48:55,140 direction of the mobile phone industry just runs counter to 2094 02:48:55,140 --> 02:48:59,140 what i like and want out of my devices i'm 2095 02:48:59,140 --> 02:49:03,140 pretty happy with this one but like i'm not going to lie and say that it 2096 02:49:03,140 --> 02:49:07,140 didn't immediately stop folding completely flat like literally 2097 02:49:07,140 --> 02:49:11,140 the second day i had it unless i you know give it the old 2098 02:49:11,140 --> 02:49:15,140 you know over fold 2099 02:49:15,140 --> 02:49:19,140 why why is that like why is that acceptable why is that 2100 02:49:19,140 --> 02:49:21,140 normal 2101 02:49:23,140 --> 02:49:27,140 the like i'm trying to think what else like 2102 02:49:27,140 --> 02:49:31,140 some of the stuff that i encountered on the iPhone was just like it's just baffling 2103 02:49:31,140 --> 02:49:35,140 to me that it's that it's not that it's not you know fixed 2104 02:49:37,140 --> 02:49:41,140 oh man there's a video coming soon i actually was 2105 02:49:41,140 --> 02:49:45,140 dailying an iphone air and then an iphone 17 and then i dabbled 2106 02:49:45,140 --> 02:49:49,140 with the iphone 17 pro max over 2107 02:49:49,140 --> 02:49:53,140 the last almost almost two months i think this is the longest i've been iphone in a while 2108 02:49:53,140 --> 02:49:57,140 and there were some things that were really good really good 2109 02:49:57,140 --> 02:50:01,140 and then there were also things that were just like infuriating 2110 02:50:09,140 --> 02:50:13,140 so yeah nitpicks and issues no i think if anything it comes down 2111 02:50:13,140 --> 02:50:17,140 to that it's my job to find things that are really 2112 02:50:17,140 --> 02:50:21,140 good and find things that are not as good and i also 2113 02:50:21,140 --> 02:50:25,140 tend to be a pretty busy person so i think i have a higher sensitivity 2114 02:50:25,140 --> 02:50:29,140 to unnecessary interactions and 2115 02:50:29,140 --> 02:50:33,140 an intuitive design than most people would because 2116 02:50:33,140 --> 02:50:37,140 it's my job to get intimately familiar with the device 2117 02:50:37,140 --> 02:50:41,140 really really quickly and especially when it doesn't follow 2118 02:50:41,140 --> 02:50:45,140 that same companies established 2119 02:50:45,140 --> 02:50:49,140 rules for interaction it just 2120 02:50:49,140 --> 02:50:53,140 kind of drives me nuts because i do understand that a lot of products these days 2121 02:50:53,140 --> 02:50:57,140 are just sort of designed by committee and there's these 2122 02:50:57,140 --> 02:51:01,140 huge teams that oftentimes will barely even talk to each other but 2123 02:51:01,140 --> 02:51:05,140 that doesn't mean that it will stop driving me crazy that 2124 02:51:05,140 --> 02:51:09,140 you could have a flagship Android phone that for years 2125 02:51:09,140 --> 02:51:13,140 didn't support a feature on youtube which is owned by google which 2126 02:51:13,140 --> 02:51:15,140 androids also managed by google 2127 02:51:17,140 --> 02:51:21,140 in this case it was youtube stories that just simply wasn't supported on it 2128 02:51:21,140 --> 02:51:25,140 guys this is a software switch that you can just flip just enable 2129 02:51:25,140 --> 02:51:29,140 stories on tablets or stop classifying this 2130 02:51:29,140 --> 02:51:33,140 phone as a tablet do one of those two things and let the feature 2131 02:51:33,140 --> 02:51:37,140 run free why are you maintaining two different versions of the app 2132 02:51:41,140 --> 02:51:45,140 oh i do not have the pebble on right now 2133 02:51:45,140 --> 02:51:49,140 i'm actually finally yes finally 2134 02:51:49,140 --> 02:51:53,140 doing it it's either going to be short 2135 02:51:53,140 --> 02:51:57,140 circuit or it's going to be LTT but i'm trying a Garmin smartwatch 2136 02:51:57,140 --> 02:52:01,140 so pebble i shot the ShortCircuit last week and then bell's been 2137 02:52:01,140 --> 02:52:05,140 chasing me to do this Garmin one for quite a while 2138 02:52:05,140 --> 02:52:09,140 hey Dan and the other two my question is how to reignite the passion 2139 02:52:09,140 --> 02:52:13,140 for games it's hard to find the childlike wonder again 2140 02:52:13,140 --> 02:52:17,140 i wonder if you have any tips to break the monotony hi from camloops 2141 02:52:17,140 --> 02:52:21,140 like so many things it's all about people it's all about 2142 02:52:21,140 --> 02:52:25,140 relationships humans are we're super complicated but we're also 2143 02:52:25,140 --> 02:52:29,140 kind of simple right like we love novelty so 2144 02:52:29,140 --> 02:52:33,140 if your hope was that you're going to recreate 2145 02:52:33,140 --> 02:52:37,140 that um that experience that you'd never had before 2146 02:52:37,140 --> 02:52:41,140 again it's not going to work like that so if what you loved about games was 2147 02:52:41,140 --> 02:52:45,140 was novelty um that's going to be tougher to recreate but there's 2148 02:52:45,140 --> 02:52:49,140 other levers you can pull there's nostalgia uh i had an absolute blast 2149 02:52:49,140 --> 02:52:53,140 i put dozens and dozens of hours into this roguelite hockey game called 2150 02:52:53,140 --> 02:52:57,140 tape to tape i haven't been playing it as much lately i should probably check in 2151 02:52:57,140 --> 02:53:01,140 and see how it's going the developer super cool canadian surfers game 2152 02:53:01,140 --> 02:53:05,140 um seemed really passionate and it reminded me 2153 02:53:05,140 --> 02:53:09,140 of playing like an hlpa 93 uh but 2154 02:53:09,140 --> 02:53:13,140 you know fun and modern and with kind of a new 2155 02:53:13,140 --> 02:53:17,140 with a new twist on it um so you know nostalgia can be a really good 2156 02:53:17,140 --> 02:53:21,140 one uh another great example of that is how many 2157 02:53:21,140 --> 02:53:25,140 incredible like um pixel art like 2158 02:53:25,140 --> 02:53:29,140 16-bit pixel art games there are that sort of emulate the style of classics like 2159 02:53:29,140 --> 02:53:33,140 final fantasy 6 chrono trigger um a couple that 2160 02:53:33,140 --> 02:53:37,140 sort of stood out to me sea of stars seems like they were a really passionate 2161 02:53:37,140 --> 02:53:41,140 team uh i quite enjoyed the game i didn't think it was quite as good as 2162 02:53:41,140 --> 02:53:45,140 people kind of made it out to be it was a little shallow in terms of the 2163 02:53:45,140 --> 02:53:49,140 gameplay and i won't say much about the story but i will say 2164 02:53:49,140 --> 02:53:53,140 that there were just aspects of it that um you know whatever but the 2165 02:53:53,140 --> 02:53:57,140 music is incredible the art is beautiful 2166 02:53:57,140 --> 02:54:01,140 um it was absolutely worth a playthrough if you enjoy 2167 02:54:01,140 --> 02:54:05,140 uh if you enjoy that that art style if you enjoy um that 2168 02:54:05,140 --> 02:54:09,140 era of gaming another really good one this one i cannot recommend 2169 02:54:09,140 --> 02:54:13,140 enough what a beautiful game so 2170 02:54:13,140 --> 02:54:17,140 incredibly well written uh crosscode um 2171 02:54:17,140 --> 02:54:21,140 radical fish i think is coming out with their next game like soon-ish 2172 02:54:21,140 --> 02:54:25,140 uh but in the meantime you should definitely pick this up it is 2173 02:54:25,140 --> 02:54:29,140 just an outstanding outstanding game uh and then 2174 02:54:29,140 --> 02:54:33,140 what's what's the last one that i that i really really enjoyed um 2175 02:54:33,140 --> 02:54:37,140 16-bit pixel games 2176 02:54:37,140 --> 02:54:41,140 bit bit bit bit oh man uh 2177 02:54:41,140 --> 02:54:43,140 i'm trying to remember what it was 2178 02:54:45,140 --> 02:54:49,140 there was another really good one that i played a little while ago where the the writing 2179 02:54:49,140 --> 02:54:53,140 got kind of silly after a bit um but 2180 02:54:53,140 --> 02:54:57,140 in like uh in like an anime way that a lot of people will probably like 2181 02:54:59,140 --> 02:55:03,140 i can't remember well i will i'll have to i'll have 2182 02:55:03,140 --> 02:55:07,140 to get that for you guys another time but it's like turn-based combat world exploration 2183 02:55:09,140 --> 02:55:13,140 no no one's uh no one said it yet 2184 02:55:15,140 --> 02:55:19,140 well anyway yeah so so yeah so nostalgia can be 2185 02:55:19,140 --> 02:55:23,140 can be a really good way to kind of reignite the the passion finding something that is 2186 02:55:23,140 --> 02:55:27,140 both new and and has reminders of old uh another really big one 2187 02:55:27,140 --> 02:55:31,140 would be just people uh a huge 2188 02:55:31,140 --> 02:55:35,140 part of what i enjoyed so much about playing tape to tape was socializing 2189 02:55:35,140 --> 02:55:39,140 so using it as a way to connect with people whether they're part of your life now 2190 02:55:39,140 --> 02:55:43,140 or whether they're people that used to be part of your life i'd say that gaming 2191 02:55:43,140 --> 02:55:47,140 chain decos that's the one thanks crater chain decos also also really 2192 02:55:47,140 --> 02:55:51,140 cool uh definitely enjoyed the combat of chain decos a little 2193 02:55:51,140 --> 02:55:55,140 bit more than um than sea of stars 2194 02:55:55,140 --> 02:55:59,140 i played them both like back to back around the same time 2195 02:55:59,140 --> 02:56:03,140 chain decos is super cool how is this so cheap chain decos is 2196 02:56:03,140 --> 02:56:07,140 10 us dollars right now winter sale 2197 02:56:07,140 --> 02:56:11,140 heck yeah steam being mean to everyone's wall 2198 02:56:11,140 --> 02:56:15,140 it's yeah dude it's so good yeah it's really good 2199 02:56:15,140 --> 02:56:19,140 anyway a couple more yeah connecting with people that that'll probably 2200 02:56:19,140 --> 02:56:23,140 help get you get you back into it playing games with my kids is lots of fun although now that 2201 02:56:23,140 --> 02:56:27,140 my son is so much better than me and my girls 2202 02:56:27,140 --> 02:56:31,140 still aren't good enough to like compete it's hard 2203 02:56:31,140 --> 02:56:35,140 to play like competitive games with them but it's still it's still great 2204 02:56:35,140 --> 02:56:39,140 to just enjoy you know stories um also also with the wife we 2205 02:56:39,140 --> 02:56:43,140 we played unravel too recently and we played uh it takes to a little while back 2206 02:56:43,140 --> 02:56:47,140 people happy holidays 2207 02:56:47,140 --> 02:56:51,140 tech gents love the new screwdrivers great for gifting 2208 02:56:51,140 --> 02:56:55,140 what is one of your tech pet peeves 2209 02:56:55,140 --> 02:56:59,140 workers smashing their mobile pay kiosks into my phone for 2210 02:56:59,140 --> 02:57:03,140 tap to pay is mine cheers oh 2211 02:57:03,140 --> 02:57:07,140 man a tech pet peeve i'd say the biggest one for me 2212 02:57:07,140 --> 02:57:11,140 in my daily life has got to be password autofill that just like 2213 02:57:11,140 --> 02:57:15,140 doesn't work that doesn't detect 2214 02:57:15,140 --> 02:57:19,140 the right app or the right website like it it feels like it it works 2215 02:57:19,140 --> 02:57:23,140 every time 75% of the time and when it works 2216 02:57:23,140 --> 02:57:27,140 dude password autofill and pass keys oh man pass keys i was talking about this 2217 02:57:27,140 --> 02:57:31,140 before the show pass keys are such a 2218 02:57:31,140 --> 02:57:35,140 failed promise man like in theory they were 2219 02:57:35,140 --> 02:57:39,140 supposed to make it so that i didn't have to do like passwords and two factor 2220 02:57:39,140 --> 02:57:43,140 because the whole thing was 2221 02:57:43,140 --> 02:57:47,140 supposed to be just like this thing that is on me that i have already 2222 02:57:47,140 --> 02:57:51,140 authenticated i'm using and it this is my one factor my thing i have 2223 02:57:51,140 --> 02:57:55,140 and then um the thing that i am 2224 02:57:55,140 --> 02:57:59,140 is supposed to be the biometric authentication that was supposed to be it and i'm 2225 02:57:59,140 --> 02:58:03,140 supposed to just automatically log into everything in practice i went to log into something 2226 02:58:03,140 --> 02:58:07,140 that used a pass key before the before the show started 2227 02:58:07,140 --> 02:58:11,140 and what is it so i have to enter i had to enter my password that i've memorized because 2228 02:58:11,140 --> 02:58:15,140 it is my like single sign on one so i had to enter my password 2229 02:58:15,140 --> 02:58:19,140 and then in order to authenticate that i had to 2230 02:58:19,140 --> 02:58:23,140 um unlock my phone to 2231 02:58:23,140 --> 02:58:27,140 so i had to click scan qr code i'm going to do it that way then i had to unlock my phone then i had to 2232 02:58:27,140 --> 02:58:31,140 click it then i had to say what i was logging into then i had 2233 02:58:31,140 --> 02:58:35,140 to biometrically authenticate again then i had to click yes and then it was 2234 02:58:35,140 --> 02:58:39,140 like seven steps later i might as well have just typed an eight character password at that 2235 02:58:39,140 --> 02:58:43,140 point it's ridiculous um 2236 02:58:43,140 --> 02:58:47,140 so i'd say that's definitely more mine and the last one i have 2237 02:58:47,140 --> 02:58:51,140 today question for Linus from a fellow motorcyclist 2238 02:58:51,140 --> 02:58:55,140 have you written the Suzuki GSX 8S 2239 02:58:55,140 --> 02:58:59,140 spiritual successor to your sv6 50 love seeing 2240 02:58:59,140 --> 02:59:03,140 a live wancho merry christmas from scotland hey thanks 2241 02:59:03,140 --> 02:59:07,140 merry christmas to you too scotland no i haven't this thing looks 2242 02:59:07,140 --> 02:59:11,140 sick though like damn this 2243 02:59:11,140 --> 02:59:15,140 thing looks awesome um 2244 02:59:15,140 --> 02:59:19,140 oh look at that 2245 02:59:19,140 --> 02:59:23,140 dang there's so many cool bikes i wish i was allowed to get a motorcycle 2246 02:59:23,140 --> 02:59:27,140 my mommy says no um 2247 02:59:27,140 --> 02:59:31,140 yeah wow this looks awesome no this had completely 2248 02:59:31,140 --> 02:59:35,140 um this had completely flown 2249 02:59:35,140 --> 02:59:37,140 under my radar 2250 02:59:39,140 --> 02:59:43,140 oh here we go uh 2251 02:59:43,140 --> 02:59:47,140 okay is it a v-twin or is it an inline does anyone know 2252 02:59:49,140 --> 02:59:53,140 anyone beuler 2253 02:59:53,140 --> 02:59:57,140 uh well i'll wait for i'll wait for someone to respond in chat but no that thing looks 2254 02:59:57,140 --> 03:00:01,140 sick i haven't been on my i haven't been on my 2255 03:00:01,140 --> 03:00:05,140 sv and we're coming up on like three years but the paint job is done 2256 03:00:05,140 --> 03:00:09,140 but there's really bad news about the paint job um 2257 03:00:09,140 --> 03:00:13,140 i don't think that my base color layer 2258 03:00:13,140 --> 03:00:17,140 adhered properly to my primer layer on some of the parts and i think it's 2259 03:00:17,140 --> 03:00:21,140 basically just gonna like crack off after a season or two 2260 03:00:21,140 --> 03:00:25,140 which is uh deeply 2261 03:00:25,140 --> 03:00:29,140 disheartening i you know i tried 2262 03:00:29,140 --> 03:00:33,140 i tried to do my i tried to to learn 2263 03:00:33,140 --> 03:00:37,140 the air sprayer and i i tried to learn all the coatings and i tried 2264 03:00:37,140 --> 03:00:41,140 to have the right conditions and everything but i think i just got caught 2265 03:00:41,140 --> 03:00:45,140 one day when maybe i didn't get the temperature right or maybe i didn't get the mix right 2266 03:00:45,140 --> 03:00:49,140 and it just it just didn't adhere uh so some of the 2267 03:00:49,140 --> 03:00:53,140 parts are fine to the point where they're like so hard to strip that i 2268 03:00:53,140 --> 03:00:57,140 like destroyed a part once trying to strip paint off of it and redo it 2269 03:00:57,140 --> 03:01:01,140 because i screwed up the uh the effect layer and then others are 2270 03:01:01,140 --> 03:01:05,140 just like oh my god these are just gonna these are just gonna flake off so 2271 03:01:05,140 --> 03:01:09,140 i think i'm probably only gonna get a couple of seasons out of it it was a fun learning experience 2272 03:01:09,140 --> 03:01:13,140 and then i think next time around i've actually got uh i got a buddy who 2273 03:01:13,140 --> 03:01:17,140 is into badminton and also runs a paint shop i'm just gonna be like hey danny 2274 03:01:17,140 --> 03:01:21,140 uh this time can i just come into your shop and do 2275 03:01:21,140 --> 03:01:25,140 like a couple hour session with you and maybe use your shop and maybe 2276 03:01:25,140 --> 03:01:29,140 here's a few bucks or some free time at smash champs or something and let's work 2277 03:01:29,140 --> 03:01:33,140 out a tit for tat and i'll maybe i'll just you know 2278 03:01:33,140 --> 03:01:37,140 do something else let danny do it no that's no fun 2279 03:01:39,140 --> 03:01:43,140 yeah that that's boring that's boring i want to ride around on a 2280 03:01:43,140 --> 03:01:47,140 bike that i painted so maybe next time around will be a gsx 8s what what do these 2281 03:01:47,140 --> 03:01:51,140 cost anyway oh i never i never check chat is it a v-twin or is an inline 2282 03:01:51,140 --> 03:01:55,140 somebody in twitch had said parallel twin i don't know if they're 2283 03:01:55,140 --> 03:01:59,140 lying to you uh 2284 03:01:59,140 --> 03:02:03,140 msrp starting from question mark what the devil 2285 03:02:03,140 --> 03:02:07,140 does that mean prices of products on the cider manufacturer 2286 03:02:07,140 --> 03:02:11,140 suggested but blah blah blah yeah yeah yeah i get it you might have to build one out but you 2287 03:02:11,140 --> 03:02:15,140 didn't give me one oh 2288 03:02:15,140 --> 03:02:19,140 oh okay hold on hold on location british columbia 2289 03:02:19,140 --> 03:02:23,140 dude man bikes are oh man the hell that's like new 2290 03:02:23,140 --> 03:02:27,140 yeah eleven thousand dollars to be clear is a lot of money i guess you only 2291 03:02:27,140 --> 03:02:31,140 get two wheels but that's canadian dollars so this is like this is like eight 2292 03:02:31,140 --> 03:02:35,140 eight grand or something like that and like man compared to 2293 03:02:35,140 --> 03:02:39,140 compared to four wheel vehicles you can 2294 03:02:39,140 --> 03:02:43,140 you can buy so much you can buy so much fun on a bike 2295 03:02:43,140 --> 03:02:47,140 compared to a four wheel vehicle for the price like good lord 2296 03:02:47,140 --> 03:02:51,140 dude oh wow that's a 2297 03:02:51,140 --> 03:02:55,140 that's a big engine i didn't clue in that the eight was eight hundred 2298 03:02:55,140 --> 03:02:59,140 uh cc's 2299 03:02:59,140 --> 03:03:03,140 more there's two hundred more than cappuccino seven hundred and seventy six 2300 03:03:03,140 --> 03:03:05,140 cc's 2301 03:03:07,140 --> 03:03:11,140 i don't know guys do you really want me to be like the the game dev guy 2302 03:03:11,140 --> 03:03:15,140 who died recently because i 650 was already 2303 03:03:15,140 --> 03:03:19,140 frickin a lot from immense got ride by wire 2304 03:03:19,140 --> 03:03:23,140 abs low RPM assist interesting 2305 03:03:23,140 --> 03:03:27,140 for smoother and easier starts okay that i don't know if i need as much but 2306 03:03:27,140 --> 03:03:31,140 sure damn this thing looks so cool 2307 03:03:33,140 --> 03:03:37,140 all right i'm gonna i'm gonna um 2308 03:03:37,140 --> 03:03:41,140 you know not buy it though maybe 2309 03:03:45,140 --> 03:03:49,140 thing looks sick uh okay 2310 03:03:49,140 --> 03:03:53,140 uh oh is that it that's all i got for you 2311 03:03:53,140 --> 03:03:57,140 oh wow okay well hey uh one last one last 2312 03:03:57,140 --> 03:04:01,140 shout out guys now is a great time to head over to LTT Store 2313 03:04:01,140 --> 03:04:05,140 our priz magic screwdrivers for a very limited time only until 2314 03:04:05,140 --> 03:04:09,140 december 30th don't wait around very limited time are 20% 2315 03:04:09,140 --> 03:04:13,140 off thanks to our partnership with youtube shopping so all you gotta do 2316 03:04:13,140 --> 03:04:17,140 is go watch the video which i'm gonna publish right 2317 03:04:17,140 --> 03:04:21,140 now so right now i think it's unlisted i've uh i've got it open if you want to do it 2318 03:04:21,140 --> 03:04:25,140 you can't uh yeah don't go ahead punch it down so this video is gonna go live 2319 03:04:25,140 --> 03:04:29,140 right now go watch it it's a really fun video it's 2320 03:04:29,140 --> 03:04:33,140 every LTT Store product that i couldn't release 2321 03:04:33,140 --> 03:04:37,140 for some reason or another it should be live if you want to give it an f5 2322 03:04:37,140 --> 03:04:41,140 hopefully i didn't the wrong one live so we sat down with the 2323 03:04:41,140 --> 03:04:45,140 engineering team there you go nine seconds ago that's 2324 03:04:45,140 --> 03:04:49,140 one second there we go so we sat down with both the engineering 2325 03:04:49,140 --> 03:04:53,140 team to talk about some of the really wild products that never saw the light of 2326 03:04:53,140 --> 03:04:57,140 day as well as with the fashion team to talk about some of the 2327 03:04:57,140 --> 03:05:01,140 really cool products that never saw the light of day and the various reasons 2328 03:05:01,140 --> 03:05:05,140 that they didn't i don't want to spoil too much but the 2329 03:05:05,140 --> 03:05:09,140 reason that we never made this wallet hold on 2330 03:05:09,140 --> 03:05:11,140 let me see if i can find it 2331 03:05:13,140 --> 03:05:17,140 okay i can't find it but there's a wallet that we never made 2332 03:05:17,140 --> 03:05:21,140 and um yeah here they are 2333 03:05:21,140 --> 03:05:25,140 and the way we got access to these original prototypes will 2334 03:05:25,140 --> 03:05:29,140 absolutely blow your mind the oh oh shoot i missed it 2335 03:05:29,140 --> 03:05:33,140 the idea behind them though was that they looked like folders 2336 03:05:33,140 --> 03:05:35,140 um 2337 03:05:39,140 --> 03:05:43,140 anyway go check it out and i think that's it for the 2338 03:05:43,140 --> 03:05:47,140 WAN Show we'll see you again next week same bad time same 2339 03:05:47,140 --> 03:05:49,140 bad channel 2340 03:05:55,140 --> 03:05:57,140 what the hell is the speaker on this thing 2341 03:05:59,140 --> 03:06:03,140 what that no that's the opposite of what you're supposed to do 2342 03:06:03,140 --> 03:06:05,140 bye 2343 03:06:07,140 --> 03:06:09,140 all right see you 2344 03:06:25,140 --> 03:06:27,140 you