{"video_id":"fp_LtXitC6BMk","title":"Livestream VOD – May 2, 2025 @ 23:21 – Everything Just Got More Expensive - WAN Show May 2, 2025","channel":"Linus Tech Tips","show":"Linus Tech Tips","published_at":"2025-05-03T04:37:00.031Z","duration_s":13408,"segments":[{"start_s":0.0,"end_s":2.0,"text":"Yeah","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":4.08,"end_s":9.08,"text":"Yeah, I'm having the screens not on and I had the same solution to just hard power it down","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":9.16,"end_s":12.2,"text":"But yeah, the screen was off computer was definitely on","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":12.68,"end_s":19.72,"text":"Fans were spinning and that my friends is why Dell is the official laptop partner of the WAN Show instead of a","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":20.12,"end_s":24.52,"text":"Susan Lenovo. 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Yeah Yeah, the bare minimum. I Have never had it not work. It's great. That's huge Look for the bare Necessities the simple bare necessities Forget about your worries and your strife All right, so are we grilling? No The whole thing So stupid So dumb that makes me want to grill more. I can't I can't believe how legitimately upset some people seem to be about the cheese thing I I actually can't I and like with everything that I've been through in the last, you know, three years this This is the one that I'm just like What do you even mean? What are you even talking about? You should you should fully embrace the meme you should book out like that that field By LSS where they have like rib fest and stuff and you should have burger fest and The whole thing should be a variety of different cheeses Charge for entry charge like five We'll do a blind taste test. We'll do a blind test. Yeah. Yeah, we'll we'll put you know But no my whole thing is make money off of them being Sell shirts So one shirt that's like American cheese is real cheese and sell another shirt that's American cheese isn't fake Sell the American cheese is fake shirt only on the global store So your plan is sell the American cheese is real cheese only on the American so your genius plan is to piss off everyone It's the it's the old Steve job strategy of Pitting the teams against each other. Okay. Yeah All right. Yeah, I'd love to talk about how terrible the UX UI is on the new Plex app, honestly. Oh Sure, why don't we throw it? Why don't we throw the new Plex app in here? You know what have been driving me nuts lately and is potentially negative on this laptop, but maybe I'm wrong Maybe it's a Windows problem. I don't know. I think it's a laptop thing But it seems to be fairly universal for like all the laptops So this isn't maybe specific to Dell since when did holding down function get you the F keys? Oh, you can change that in the BIOS. Okay. Yeah, you can yeah That's so annoying. Yeah, but you could yeah, you just change which one is default in the BIOS and cool. Okay, sweet I'm probably honestly not gonna do that for this laptop, but that's good to know Make the cheese shirt reversible That's pretty that's pretty sick All right, should we just should we just do this thing? How about we just do this thing should we do this thing? I mean, I'm down. Okay, maybe launch it at 430 dead. Yeah, does that work? Why is when on time? Yeah, yeah, I want to win the last time we were on time was Okay, so before we get there, I think I've figured out the cheese thing Okay, so there's different kinds of American cheese Okay, craft singles are crappy American cheese. Okay. Okay, and then the rest of American cheese appears to be bland Cheese that has the emulsifying salts in it. Okay, so Realistically, I would never put it on my food anyway because I like cheese with flavor You're gonna get some spicy people in the chat angry with you. I'm just I'm just I'm just giving them a hard time. I'm just giving them a hard time Also Also Are like typical like grocery store-ass cheddar Apparently is pretty high moisture in Canada and Something something something and melts really well So my confusion that you would have any difficulty melting a standard-ass brick of Kirkland cheddar is Legitimate because here it melts just fine, but maybe somewhere it doesn't. Oh, yeah, like English cheddar is basically like a small brick Yeah, I think that would be more difficult to melt or at least melt differently But who the hell is putting English cheddar on a burger? So what are we even talking about absolutely no one so no one eats burgers in England No, no, no, I'm just saying you wouldn't buy it here to like I mean, there's like it's a style Dude, this whole thing was frustrating because people are just like, you know, like it's not all cheese is this it seems like When I went when I went to Paris for a couple of weeks Literally what I would eat for at least one meal every day is I would just go to the boulangerie I would get a baguette and then I would go to the fromagerie and I would get some random cheese I'd never tried before and I would eat them and it was great. I love cheese This is the way to go. I love cheese. I just Don't think that it's difficult To melt a square of cheese on a burger And it's funny because my whole thing was like skill issue if you can't do it And then people's biggest defense was that it's way easier to do it with American cheese Because it comes pre-sliced so you don't have to slice it evenly I do not struggle with It's not a skill issue. I have a skill issue Excuse me. It's not a skill issue. I just only play the game on easy. I only play the game on story difficulty I'm not bad at Dark Souls. The guys just keep killing me One minute 44 seconds. Oh man But yeah, it's it's pretty funny and Benny's like it's more for smash burgers and it's like that's fine That's your take but you got it. You got to remember that you are just one member of an audience that is Thousands or in the case of the Vaude hundreds of thousands strong and there are plenty of people in that audience That did not say that and did not think that and so the whole thing has just been like, oh My god, would it be funny if when the cafeteria opens at smash jams if you had a smash burger at smash jams No, I don't think anyone's gonna know or care about I think I think the cheese thing is actually gonna gonna pass here line is 60 seconds You got those selected stop bashing our cheese, bro I don't care if you bash our politics or our collective IQ Dude it was pretty funny on the on the bomb proof PC when Alex When Alex was talking about how the the link between extensive use of indoor firing ranges and lead exposure and potential for like IQ drop the number of like terrible brain-dead takes on how That's not true from people who regularly Shoot indoors was pretty funny outdoor ranges are base. It's like you are you are Not disproving this point the way you think you are even outdoor ranges like I Like my grandpa swore by he had this thing There's like a cleaner for your hands to get all the residue and stuff off Yeah, that's what then he shot exclusively at outdoor ranges. That makes sense Cato s I don't hate dairy. I'm just saying humans consuming it at all is weird. It is super weird It's like why why is it taboo? You know if my wife is lactating for me to be like can I have some? But if it's if it's a fucking cow, that's like totally normal The intro of all times I Mean I don't actually disagree though Like that's that's actually wild to me Yeah, I don't know Yeah To be fair, it's not taboo to eat beef, but is taboo to eat human. Oh I do think that's a little different, but it is funny. Anyways, do you see Adams coming? No What a terrible day to be employed I This is who you're associated with Adam. Yeah Yep, wait, I am it's for the views Adam We got we got you can't you can't you can't be getting views out here not having interesting takes You can't be have getting views out here. Just I did not have like cheese American cheese 25 dark 24 says 145 IQ I shot indoors as a child if you're 145 IQ then you're probably smart enough to know that that means you probably could have been 147 IQ that's what a that's what or he didn't do it enough. That's what it. That's what a decrease I have an impact or whatever. Yeah. Yeah, that's the thing about lead is it's cumulative Humulative I love that word That's Lexic stoner to 240 says 1.45 IQ Ah All right, so you do this thing let's do this thing This is great PK 7 is on fire saw that was really good actually cumulative is a fun word it grows on you That's very good. I love it. That's very good actually outstanding. Yeah Box C4 T 145 and watching WAN Show. Are we sure about that? I? Think we drop IQ more than the lead. Yeah, probably no we give high IQers a break Because everyone needs rest time. That's taking focused rest time. That's true. Okay. We should do this. Yeah Yeah, I know that FYI at lol, but it's more down range that has high lead concentration If you're interested yeah instead of debating us because we only sort of tangentially know I only know from what Alex told me as far as my understanding goes It's true, and I've looked it up in the past as well I'm just one of the reasons why I've favored outdoor ranges and my grandpa said that and he was around before the internet And probably got that information from before the internet Which oddly enough I? Don't know if that makes me believe it more or less It's weird. I'd believe your grandpa much fake news because if I didn't believe me cut me That might have been true I'm gonna resume to select it right now Luke is underwear gone for good what I did not pick select You Hey, hi, what's up? Not much man. Welcome to the WAN Show We've got a great show lined up for you guys this week. We're gonna be talking about Tariffs, that's right Price is gone. We're talking about tariffs We are we must be the only podcast this week discussing tariffs Yes, and the only podcast hosted by a bunch of white dudes discussing Tariffs in their 30s Wow Barely Extremely unique you've got a little bit you got a little bit got a little bit tariffs will still be here when you're out, but you know also In other news corporations lied what what did apple lied they lied in the epic case Actually, the epic case has gotten a lot more epic over the last little while I am I'm pretty excited for this because I had a lot of people hating on me for being like yeah Not a big fan of Tim Sweeney Not a big fan of fortnight, but they're like fucking obviously right about this and It turns out Even in America At least one judge agrees things are about to get very very good for consumers on the App Store What else we got speaking about things getting the bad in my opinion About the layoffs or the other layoffs or the AI taking over and then layoffs next try another one AI getting laid off It's debatable if that's better not next one. I don't know what I NASA getting defunded by 25% Okay, actually the biggest NASA fanboy right here and How are you doing? How are you sir? How would you say you're feeling about NASA being defunded by 25%? Also, they're supposed to go to fucking Mars somehow with their budget cut. Yeah And but without the stepping stone mission that was supposed to establish everything they needed to go to Mars How'd you yeah, I'd love to let you finish but Oh Shows brought to you by Vessie Squarespace Thoram and of course our rap partner D brand our laptop partner No, and our chair partner secret lab. Should we jump right into the headline topic? Yeah, I forget what it is. Ah, yes terrace Import loophole closes and things are about to cost more you see I think a lot of people didn't fully grasp the magnitude of the tariffs that are going to be hitting US consumers and a big part of the reason for that is that a Lot of the new tariffs that have been announced don't sound that big They don't sound like that much. They don't sound like a huge deal But here's the thing the big change is not necessarily the amount that the tariffs are or the categories of products that they're on or Even the source of the goods that are being tariffed the big thing that's going to impact Consumers in their day-to-day purchases is the elimination of the de minimis Exemption so the de minimis exemption was Well, I guess exactly what it sounds like it was an exemption on incoming shipments that were under the threshold of $800 and the idea behind it was that these small shipments clearly intended for Non-commercial use for individual consumers were not worth the hassle of you know dealing with dealing with handling all these tiny transactions for all of these incoming shipments and also I Guess a way to reduce prices for individual consumers. So for for years now There's been the ability for sites like Temu She and Ali express Hem you. Yeah I don't know LTT Store calm to ship items that otherwise would have already been tariffed Into the United States without them being tariffed as long as the total order was under $800 that is Gone I believe yeah, May 2nd May 2nd. So that is gone today Day and it is already resulting in some pretty interesting Impacts Temu has said they will no longer sell imported goods directly to consumers Instead there will be locally based sellers who fulfill the orders Yeah, this is this is a B2B2C or business-to-business-to-customer strategy that like a lot of people are employing now because of this change now I'm about to say something that's gonna sound pretty flippin wild Closing exemptions that mostly benefit fast-fashion and like manufactured e-waste Maybe not a bad thing I'm kind of okay with that I mean if that's what they mostly benefit those are things that are bad so well what who they benefit is is Importers who are basically, you know burning jet fuel drop shipping garbage sending some like these these these small pieces of junk over the ocean One at a flipping time rather than consolidating them on container ships Sending them across the ocean that way and then having them distributed on the other side however, however, even though I am pretty Anti-fast fashion. Yeah as a whole like one of our big core Tenets for LTT Store is that when we make a clothing product when we make an apparel item It should be made to last and if for whatever reason it doesn't last There's always the trust me bro guarantee you contact our support and we will do whatever we can to make it right And and I have I have always been of kind of the mind that you know Well, what does it matter if these pants are not the current style like have they fallen off me yet? Well, then I will continue to wear them But it has become a I think it's fair to say growing plague Is it fair to call fast fashion to growing so where people are treating clothing as Being effectively disposable after a couple of wears use it used to be like a couple stores in the mall that weren't necessarily that popular and now it's like Massive online sites where it seems like genuinely a lot of people do their show which has led to a positive feedback loop where Sellers are noticing that there is absolutely No benefit to their customer to building something that lasts so they make cheaper and cheaper stuff Which leads people to have expectations that things should be really cheap because realistically it's only gonna last a few wears and so on and so on and so forth until we've spiraled into this this Mindset both on the consumer and on the manufacturer side that all this stuff is basically disposable and is good for you know Part of one season before it should just be thrown away and there's ideas for how you can solve that Oh, I'll just I'll just donate all of my own clothes But yeah, you guys have looked into that in the last five to ten years But the volume of clothing that exists to be donated vastly exceeds the demand for donated clothing and As that clothing has gone down in quality that has become a bigger and bigger problem So, you know to some people who are just kind of Reflexively against anything that the current US administration does that might sound like a controversial take but For me it is actually at least on the surface aligned with something that I think is not necessarily a Terrible idea. I do think Okay, so that might be the majority of what it targets and so it makes sense cool I do think there are things that are gonna get cleaved from this that were not under that So my next words were going to be with that said do you think it would be interesting if something could come through? de minimis If it had like a really strong warranty long duration strong warranty um, I don't know how you didn't force that because Sounds tough to because and this is something that I have I have I have clashed with our audience about before Yeah, everyone has a different perspective Which is impacted by the people around you the place you grew up what what you've experienced right your life experiences And when I say things like yeah a warranty is only worth the paper that it's written on It comes down to the willingness of that company to to honor it It's because Canada is kind of more like that There's gonna be folks from Australia for instance where they have strong consumer protection laws And they literally like actually have somebody that they can contact that actually has you know fangs That can go after these companies and be like hey you I'm actually need to refund them or whatever else so here that Functionally doesn't really exist practically civil court it as far as my understanding. Yeah, you could you could maybe try to go to small claims court you could Basically you're gonna end up spending more Yeah, maybe not in money But certainly in your time to try to get anyone to honor a warranty that they just basically don't feel like Honoring so that's the perspective that I'm coming at it with and with that in mind I think companies that have absolutely no intention of in many cases even existing a Year from now or two years from now or five years from now. They'll be like. Oh, yeah, this M.2 adapter for a full-size M.2 in the first gen ROG Ally has a one billion years warranty Yeah, they would just chat GPT a warranty drop ship One huge thing worth of stuff sell it all once it sold disappear so Anyway, there's a lot of babies in the bathwater and Some of the impacts are going to be felt in the electronics industry so Microsoft has raised the price of consoles games and accessories Worldwide the two terabyte series X costs more than a ps5 pro for now We've actually got a handy dandy little table here where you can see US pricing changes across the board for Microsoft So let's have a look here the Xbox series s5 12 has gone from two ninety nine to three seventy nine Series X digital a hundred dollars increase to tear up a two terabyte series X is now $730 it's interesting to me though that if you keep looking some things didn't change and it's pretty much controllers I mean some of the controllers did change to the elites. Oh, yeah. No, you're right. Most of them. Yes The elite controller series to full went up the core did not I'm not sure what the difference between those is so What I will say is because we've had to go through like because we're not just reading about this in the news We're we're living through this with LTT Store is that The way that things are going to change is not necessarily going to be intuitive to the average consumer Because this is a this is a multi variable function here So for instance one of the things that happened when we when we split Oh, so this is this is one of the big things on our side this week is LTT Store.com is actually now split into two sites So global dot LTT Store.com will take you to a landing page and If you are visiting from the United States you click the United States one And if you are anywhere else in the world you go to the global site So I'm going to open up both of these because we are an excellent Seriously, right-click to I want to open in a new tab. Okay, I Okay, well hold on I'm gonna figure this out global Okay, hold on forget no It's at the bottom. I know how to navigate this site there Okay, so I'm on the global site and then I'm also on the US site perfect. Okay, cool What was I going to say right right so so some stuff is not going to be particularly Intuitive, let's take t-shirts for instance. I don't know I Don't know if you know this Luke But t-shirts many apparel items actually have significant tariffs coming into Canada. I didn't know that did you know that no There's there's other things like housewares for instance We ran into we actually were had a complaint issued about LTT Store by some Jackass furniture store of some sort That was saying that we were we were when we were making those CPU pillows Remember those alpaca wool CPU pillows. They complained that we were that we were dumping effectively we were we were like bringing in these pillows and selling them below cost in order to harm like throw pillow Retailers or something and and and basically they they accused us of like circumventing some kind of import restriction or something like that And we're like bro This is not furniture, but but furniture is another one that actually has Has has some tariffs that that impact overseas furniture coming into Canada. So what happened with t-shirts? So if you look at if you look at the two sites here on the global site our mystery t-shirts are 2499 Canadian and on the US site Where's our t-shirts? I think they are. Yeah, I believe they're $30. So I'll tell you this much on the whoops on the Canadian site These shirts are making Significantly less margin and the only reason that they're priced this way Which is fairly aligned with what they were priced before so 20 US dollars The only reason that they're priced this way is because we're trying to go a little bit Costco hot dog on them Where we're trying to make that the t-shirt like a reasonably priced item on the store our cost is now higher on t-shirts because Hold on and this is about to get crazy The way that it worked before was when we paid duties on the import of t-shirts into Canada before Because so many of them were going to be sold into a region that was duty exempt and didn't have any tariffs We effectively were subsidizing our Canadian customers Yeah with The fact that we weren't going to pay duties on most of it So we were just absorbing those duties to our Canadian customers saying the line subsidizing our Canadian customers is going to Make well, I'm about to get into how we're going to subsidize people in other regions as well All right, don't worry. We're going to get there All right, so we were we were subsidizing the price of t-shirts for our Canadian customers keeping them artificially low Because the overall amount of duties that we were paying was actually very low on the total shipment that came in because so meant much Of it was being sold to other regions now. Here's a here's another funny one some people have noticed that the shipping prices on the global store have been are a little higher and the reason for that is because once again America was actually subsidizing our shipping rates to the rest of the world So they were paying maybe an extra, you know 50 cents and their order volume was so much greater that we could have our shipping rate to you know Eastern Canada be about three dollars cheaper and there's going to be people out there that like don't believe me that are like Linus shipping is like $30 on a $30 mouth pad. I was like, yeah, yeah, because it is Because that's like like go ahead. Go ahead key it into a thing We don't operate at the kind of volume where we get like way better rates We can't we can't like walk in with our giant dong You know sticking down the one of the legs of our pants. It's just Down to the knee. Okay sticking out there sit down across the table from FedEx Men spread and go do you have any idea who I am? But even like no Also like keep it in your pants, brother. Like they don't care. We are nobody you gotta answer with I can't we are nothing to them Um So now shorts too short now, let's talk about now. Let's talk about what's going on on the US side Our shirts went up from 20 to 30 u.s. Dollars. So you know why that happened? Tarifico Tariffs because we decided to lose money on shirts We are literally losing our shirts on Printed t-shirts Which what few we have in stock on the US site right now So you're going beyond Costco hot dog because now not only are we not able to claw back? the duties that we used to pay on Those Canadian shirts that we then like sold into the US and we're like hmm Actually, these weren't imported into Canada. These were imported into the US But the duty is the tariffs that are now due on those shirts make the cost of them That high Which is going to be which is which is pretty wild So we are actually subsidizing Any American who wants to buy a shirt now like keeping them at $30 is Effectively taking money that we are making in other regions and trying to keep the shirts somewhat accessible I think this place like directly into the pro-tariff like Playbook though Yeah, I mean maybe because the the claim was that they were subsidizing everyone else and now We are using everyone else to subsidize them, which is exactly what they wanted. I don't know how long we can I don't know how long we can do that though. Yeah, I don't know how long we can do that So as you can see we already have less selection on the US store Like this is this is not sustainable Our hope is that this is a this is a temporary way. We believe that honestly even I don't know if people are gonna like hearing this, but it really sucks having two stores And if all of this goes away it is possible that we could go back to one store I don't know that we necessarily would again. I think that it's rough having two stores internally Internally the conversation is that you know, we want to we want to do a better job of Well, okay, I Will add cuz you might have this context, but they don't so I'm gonna add this as well There is a way to do better localization within one store So we can have the better localization that people gained from this but have it on one store but we can't do that right now because of The weirded stuff that's happening. So if some of the weird stuff that's happening goes away We could go down to one website, but more localized which would be better for everyone Yeah, I just I don't know if it's gonna be possible to have the same the same pricing just like You know Wouldn't yeah, you can you can set different pricing for different regions and all this kind of stuff got it There's there's other reasons why the store has to be split in half. It's not that interesting. So I'm not gonna bother go over it But yeah, my order history stuck on the US store. There are casualties with this change This is one of the reasons why it would be nice to use localization options on one store. Yeah, but we just can't For for a variety of other reasons of stuff that's going on. So it is what it is some stuff There's nothing we can do the precision screwdriver is way more expensive now It's $70 for the bundle of the how much was it? So the reason and it comes down to it comes down to categories basically, right? So on t-shirts, right? I already explained we're going slim on both sides Right and we're trying to we're trying to keep it somewhat accessible so that people can like order a shirt But on something like the screwdriver It just are the precision screwdriver specifically They it just it is what it is we to maintain the MSRP that we had before we'd be selling it at a loss instead of out of profit and That's that's not an area where we want to Costco hot dog it like I've always been like that about t-shirts So I think some people are getting a little bit up in arms about you know Oh subsidize this sell it a loss that t-shirts have always been something that we've gone kind of slim on and I think that's probably Why you guys are seeing an outsized? Impact here because we didn't have any room to play with Like we can't if we were if we were if we were selling into the US At our old price, which was 1999 for printed t-shirts shirts that are manufactured overseas But printed here in Canada We would be losing Yeah, anywhere from like nine to twelve dollars a shirt or something like that USD which is like obviously stupid Yeah, and then if we hadn't made any adjustments on the Canadian ones If we'd gone straight if we are sorry, we didn't make any adjustments on the global site We went to 2499 and that is extremely slim like extremely extremely slim because there's Functionally very little clawback now because anything that is brought into that inventory pool is destined for A predominantly Canadian and to a lesser extent global audience So Basically the point of going through this was just to kind of talk to you guys about how depending on the category like like apparel Was impacted in a way that was multifaceted Multivariable and any assumptions that you know that companies were making in the past about How the goods are going to flow how the money flows back the other way and what taxes duties and tariffs are due have Functionally been thrown out the window over the last few months and it's possible that I got a couple details You know a little off on percentages of markup or margins or whatever else realistically We have a wonderful team that works through this stuff for us And you know, it's my job is basically to get a high-level executive summary and go You know, no, I want to go more aggressive there or no I really don't think we can absorb that here and kind of you know, provide my guidance for you know What my tolerance for losses? You know like if I if if they come to me thing to have guidance on well Yeah, cuz if they cuz I can tell you right now prices were gonna be higher across both stores before I went through the spreadsheet I basically went through and I was like no no no no no no no no no no no no lower it And margins are gonna be pretty slim on both sides. So almost across the board It's like we've been keeping the key the team strong. We haven't been doing layoffs throughout this We're not planning on it. Yeah, we're doing good. So that effectively just means he gets less money. Well, yeah, everybody else here is fine Yeah, so he's just electing to have less money. Well, yeah Just to frame it because I don't think people got that. I don't know. I thought that was pretty clear I don't know. I'm just making sure well anyway I'm not trying to over glaze them anyway, you know what I what I tried to do when I went through and basically ripped up the proposal that they worked on really hard was With a couple of exceptions I think there's a couple of items on the global store that went up like a dollar or two Just because they were gonna end up at like a weirdo price point that didn't make any sense With just a couple of exceptions the pricing on the global store should be pretty much what it was before or a little bit less and Then on the US side, I Tried to keep things as close as I could But understood that you know in cases like the retro monitor pet cave it just Couldn't possibly make any sense To sell it at the old price and and be losing like very very substantial amounts of money Here's a game or question every day. I don't know if you want to talk about or not. How are sales on the US store now, it's it's been 24 hours ish 26 It's really hard to say for a couple of reasons one of them is that as far as I can tell the report is still combined Oh I'm unsure Wait, really? I don't know. Is it not? I don't think it would is this just one of the stores because nobody told me that Which what where are you looking at the report? Uh, I don't know admin dot Shopify.com think that's One of them. Yeah, this says all channels, right? So is this just what are the difference? I don't know online store I mean, it's there a separate Shopify dashboard. Is that why I think sales are terrible? I could be wrong I don't actually know but I would think so Yeah, no, I know about the one for like are you saying they're separate they should be separate it would make sense to me that They would be separate. Oh for crying out loud. Well, okay, I'll give you two answers. If you didn't know that I'm assuming it's pretty okay. No. No, it's not. Oh, but And even if even if global sales are like about what they typically are sales are terrible Over the last couple of days, but but but but but we did just come out of a huge I'm not freaking out about that because it's pretty normal to have like a Hangover. Yeah, as as we'd kind of call it when you have like a big sale event and for the last Over two weeks, I think we've been running the shipstorm sale event And we did like I got a I got to thank you guys for your incredible support over the last little while because We we beat our entire q2 projection In the first three weeks of april Yeah, yeah, yeah In terms of revenues it was it was less profitable because we were eating the shipping on orders over 150 dollars Um, but still like we are we are positioned To give ourselves time to kind of breathe Get these two stores launched Reassess and then take any any action that we that we see fit to to make sure that the business Stays healthy and that we're and that we're doing everything we can to take care of our customers both, you know south of the border and Throughout the rest of the world because at the end of the day, right? Like the trade war or no trade war like I am not personally at war with LTT Store customers Right Quite the opposite. Yeah, like not not even a little bit and I don't think an LTT Store customer is like At war with me. So I think I'm sure there's at least one. I mean You're being so unhelpful Just like with the cheese thing I mean it's for the content So basically, you know, I'd like to think that on both sides We're gonna in good faith try to you know weather this and I'm already I'm already seeing some cracks forming In the u.s. Administrations, you know hard line stamps on tariffs. Um, we're already seeing China potentially rumored to maybe be thinking about possibly coming to the table and and figuring this out. So I'm just all I can really do like let's face it. Canada is not a global superpower Right. So all I can really do is kind of sit on the sidelines like I do And kind of hope that the big kids are going to figure it out and that mom and dad are going to stop fighting So that ultimately people can get better prices on their fine quality merchandise from lttstore.com and xboxes Yeah, and also disposable crap from sheen and temu Yeah, I mean, I guess that's kind of a that's kind of a bigger conversation though, right is like how would you How would you deal with that? What would be what would be your solution, right? Because it's easy to say like, yeah, this is a terrible implementation Blah blah blah etc etc, right? But like how how how would you try to change? A consumption culture that has Has leaned so heavily into disposability of functionally everything Like dude, what what are you going to buy in a dollar store anymore if there's you know, 150 tariffs on you know, literally everything that's in there Like are are you going to go are you going to uh Destin Destin from smarter every day He made uh, he made a barbecue scraper that's made in america Just as an experiment to see how bloody difficult it is to to make a barbecue scraper That is that is made in america to make anything in america Uh, i'm just gonna i'm just gonna bring it up because I I forget exactly here. It is the smarter scrubber. Here it is um And what he discovered was that it is flip and difficult. Yeah, here you go for years I've wanted to make a product a high quality product in america to prove it can be done and compete with overseas manufacturing and I would say it's pretty clear that he is competing with overseas Manufacturing in terms of the design and quality What he is not competing with is the price when you have to talk about your barbecue scraper for this long Before you scroll down and find a price I guarantee you that it is not going to be a super attractive price And this is I mean this is the same challenge that we ran into to a degree with the screwdriver screwdriver is a much more complex product But is priced ten dollars more And that that's what happens when you do your molding in canada when you shoot your plastics in canada You do final assembly and packaging here in canada. It's amazing How fast those things add up and there is good news Um for anyone who is you know worried that the pricing of the LTT screwdriver is going to go up in the states It's not um, I believe we are Either very close to or we have finished getting it certified made in canada Which we had a pretty good idea that we could do before just never bothered to go through the work because it didn't matter Yeah, like we knew we knew how much of the transformative value-added work that we were doing here in canada Um, but it like it didn't matter from uh from a cost perspective for our customers. So we weren't going to burn cycles on that But uh, but anyway back to back to the smarter scrubber Would you buy a barbecue scrubber for 60 us dollars? Knowing that it could very well last a lifetime and that you'd never have to buy another one But knowing that you'd be spending 60 dollars for a barbecue scrubber How much is an alternative barbecue scrubber as a person who does not own a barbecue? Okay. Well, I don't know. I am a fellow Monitored owner What is god? I hate this website I Trash I love these like absolutely could be solved by an AI. Oh my god, but we're farming you for training Uh Little widget things. Is it that one? Yeah, it's this one Okay Is this like a cup? Is this a bowl of noodles? Like what am I even doing? It's so good. Oh my god. Stop train our AI for access to this website Please. Yeah, I know right Hey barbecue scrub daddy barbecue brush somebody said One-piece portable multifunction outdoor barbecue. I wouldn't buy I'm assuming it has lead or something from there Well, I can hold on a second. I could literally buy 30 of these though I could buy an actual platoon of One-piece portable multifunction outdoor barbecue cleaning tool for the price of one smarter scrubber And i'm not saying that you should I'm just saying that you could Yeah Yeah And and look I don't actually need your answer because it doesn't really matter It's not really the point the point is that in general it's a lot consumers have answered that yeah over the last 30 years And you'll have you'll have the loud people Um, and I tend to like those loud people and prefer to think the way that they do but that'll be like oh, I'd rather Buy less things but by quality things that I will be able to keep for a long period of time or whatever um But most people don't do that Cody n7 do you have a source for this? I said there was a store owner who kept getting told that people will spend more for made in america products So he went through the process of finding us suppliers then listed both on the website made in america and made in china with a 10 Percent price delta and almost nobody spent the extra money to buy the us one Uh, do you do you have a source for that? um I made it up. Yeah, probably Free freelancer Athena did a made in us side by side search afina showerhead tariff You know what? I'm gonna get you guys. I'm gonna get you guys to look that up um Okay, would you pay 30 times the price for your barbecue scrubber knowing it's safer? Uh, if I thought the other one had lead in it. Yeah, no, no I'm like the the little bristles can come out and they can like get in the meat and they can actually be dangerous if ingested I am personally kind of of the mind that you have to be like kind of not very careful to not like notice that but But I mean, hey, I thought that you could melt like regular cheddar cheese from, you know, cosco on a burger Some things are really hard. Can't that's impossible. Some things are incredibly difficult and uh, I think you need to understand that Okay, that's fair. That's fair Just because you have your $700 barbecue scrubber and have never experienced a bristle in your life Doesn't mean that there aren't others out there on the grind set dealing with these problems every day Almost die in our kody and seven says my memory was incorrect. It's almost double the price for made in america So, yeah, I could that makes more sense. It was the afina showerhead. Okay So that's apparently the one that uh, that koti was referring to and I found the source So we ran an ab test, wow, that's actually that's actually really interesting Uh add to carts asia add to carts usa Whoa We tested everything zero purchases color copy layout We ran it over multiple days in traffic sources same outcome every time for a moment. We thought we'd made a technical error We hadn't Man this is uh zero purchases usa is Wild That's surprising to me actually I I genuinely Would have expected You know what? I bet it is I bet it's the product category because if it was like a gun or something Right like if it was something that because it's like a water purifier so they don't Or isn't a shower head or something. I think it's a shower head water purifier, isn't it afina. What do they make? Filtered shower head. Yeah. Yeah, okay. So it's some it's some filtered shower head That makes my hair nicer that realistically people. I don't have a hair. Well. No, I don't I don't my god Don't can you not generalize you can they call it a bald eagle for a reason like us? We don't actually want to be assimilated Annexed whatever. No, I Realistically, I'm saying that they're buying Like you know products they think are gonna last and standing behind things that are made I'm not against that purchasing style to be completely. No, I'm just saying I'm just saying that I don't like it if anything I don't think there's anything particularly that speaks to the to the american identity about a shower head Whereas I think if you were gonna make it a barbecue scrubber, I think you'd probably get more than zero sales Yes, I do agree like you you take a you know, it's fourth of july You do a $10 discount on your $60 barbecue scrubber. You have a compelling sales pitch behind it It's safer. It doesn't have these bristles. You put an american flag on the back of it I think you can actually sell a few of those But I think the difference is that this is clearly a commodity item in the eyes of the people who were shopping for it And when it comes to a commodity item, I could certainly see people having less brand loyalty I mean, I certainly have less brand loyalty for things. I perceive to be a commodity Like I I I I have been I've spent my entire life Completely bewildered by people who have a preference for gas station Like I have a preference for gas station. You have a points program. Nope costco. Nope Why It's it's just I I think they're they're cool. It's a clover hill. It's where we sold those berries that one time Oh my god Okay, that's different. I'm talking about like multinational literally one chain gas stations You can't even pay at the pump. There's a little sign that apologizes for it They're like the the pump upgrade is really expensive. So if you could just come pay inside, they'll be great So so I go pay inside for my gas and they have little like homemade muffins that you can buy and stuff They still sell DVDs I And I don't exclusively go there, but I like I like it's it's like uh willow video I like bringing my business. No, that's totally fine, but it's also not what I'm talking about at all and you know it Um So any who? Like I I I can definitely I relate to people not really having a preference when it comes to Commodity. Okay. So how do you how do you what how do you because this is an over a hundred dollar item? No, no, this is a very cheap item. Are we talking about barbecue scrubbers or what? Oh the filters. Hmm Well, how much is it the the cheap one the manufactured in asa asia one is a hundred and twenty nine dollars And the other one's like 250. Uh, let me see if I can find it To so a hundred twenty nine dollars remain a made in asia and a hundred two hundred and forty dollars are made in usa Okay, it's about about double the price. Yeah, um Oh man, yeah, I guess that's another factor too is it's not just the it's not just the percentage difference in price It's the actual Like raw dollars Like I am paying right now out of my pocket for American labor But realistically they're people I've never met To have the same shower head. Do you think the way that they ran it? Twisted it at all because I'm looking at this and I see I see this one Same design two options you choose made in usa or asia and they have a little flag for made in usa and stuff this this may okay cool, but then you see the actual cart page And made in the usa is the default selection for one Uh for two it shows three hundred dollars slashed out to one twenty nine Um, and then there's like Important note the quality is identical regardless. This might even be true But I'm just wondering if it if it twists things the quality is identical regardless of where the shower head is manufactured While our usa made shower head is indeed made in the united states Some of the materials used are still sourced from other countries as they are not available in the usa and that Almost like has to be true when it comes to certain like minerals or whatever else. Yeah, that is what it is But I could I could see that impacting I could yeah, I could see that impacting I think that I think that if they were slightly less Transparent in the running of their exercise. They might have gotten more it might have been a less Honest presentation, but it might have been a better experiment if that makes sense Maybe yeah, because I most people that I know of that are buying nationally are buying nationally because of quality More than anything. Mm-hmm But then do you really have doubts about the raw quality of like, uh, you know a copper tube Before it was, you know bent into a faucet or whatever it is some people do some people do I I guarantee you some people do yeah, but then I mean like the whole like Like chinese steel versus whatever other steel argument. I have no idea if that's real or not I know nothing about it, but I've heard those phrases But wouldn't you rather somebody tell you like hey if anyone else says that they're using american this they're they're not it like isn't the thing Like it does seem like the more honest way to present it. No, I I prefer it being presented this way to be clear I'm just saying I I wonder if that Change anything I also think it's interesting that made in asia is selected by default Um, well, didn't they say they tried they tried different different forms. They don't show it. Yeah, that's fair. That's fair Um, either either way this graph is crazy. Sorry one last one You can't even like see it It looks like the whole graph is just on the left, but no there's there's two more columns here two separate additional columns right here Yeah, one of them is just not actually existent because it's at 0.00 But it's there's the section is there That's wild. Did you see um, do you see sony just like increased prices everywhere to uh To subsidize the u.s. Yeah, and to pay for the tariffs that way this is this is I my problem with that Is if you're trying to go against it in Mexico is going to pay for it. Yeah If you're trying to go against the whole idea You're you're playing into exactly what the one of the taglines was at one point in time Which is that America was subsidizing everywhere else um, and now A lot of companies are flipping that Which is theoretically what they wanted, right? So if you're trying to go against it, you're you're playing into what they wanted just to make this completely clear We have not increased prices On our global store to account for tariffs. We have increased prices on our u.s. Store There is one key difference and that's uh, that's something that I talked about on the shipping side where because we were Consolidating all of our shipments and routing them through the u.s Our u.s. Costs were quite a lot lower But our international costs were a lot higher to the point where we would basically sell nothing internationally before and so Yeah, we did play we did play some games with the with the shipping costs a little bit to help kind of Balance the playing field a little bit and I think maybe that's something that Is going to be upsetting to some people and I again back to what I was saying earlier about everyone having their different perspectives That's something I'm really used to And so maybe that's something that I kind of dropped casually And for other people it was like a complete bomb because Like for instance, uh, my my first exposure to this concept was when I started working at ncix And I learned that any postal code with a zero in it Is a super expensive postal code. Did you know that? No They're rural And so at ncix the way that our the way that our pricing algorithm worked for shipping was that we would subsidize zeros with urban postal codes Because otherwise Literally if someone ordered a computer case for a hundred dollars, they could pay $350 in shipping because that's just what it's driving a huge box out to the countryside And in the interest of you know equity and making sure that you know other people in the country have access to computer parts at all Scrappy DP 601 378 rural that also isn't a postal code for crying out loud. That is a zip code Okay Wow I love Our american friends I really do But you are not the only country in the world What it really It really does Like wow seemed to be a uniquely American thing to just get very confused sometimes By things that are not america Like when we're traveling overseas like at computex or whatever and we upload videos at different times of the day It I don't it's a funny thing because it is almost exclusively people in the eastern time zone That are like what are they doing posting a video? It is this time and you I you ID yourself by telling me what time it is where you are And it's never the it's never west coast. It's never central time. It's always east coast predominantly usa that just have absolutely Like no concept or other time zones and it's funny because I get it You're not used to it Like do you remember when a hotly anticipated television program? To be to be lifted up second character being a zero indicates a rural region. Yeah Yeah, I know. Okay. Anyway, um, I was telling them. Oh, right, right, right, right, right, right Okay, so do you remember when you were a kid and some hotly anticipated? Yeah, you just did the america thing I did Yeah, I was talking to them and you were like, I know Oh, okay Sorry, I thought you were telling me No, you're good. I don't care. I just think it's funny So do you remember when you were a kid and there'd be an a hotly anticipated television event? Sure. Yeah, okay, and they'd be like at You know 6 p.m um 4 p.m. Central And they wouldn't even bother with the pacific time zone. Literally. We've spent our whole lives We're just used to minus three having to having to do minus three hours on everything And so I understand how people who live in that particular time zone whether they're american or canadian But they're not So postal codes are not zip codes and do not work the same way. I do not I do not purport to know anything about how zip codes work because I'm not american and I don't care It doesn't really matter But I learned many years ago that in canada That zero indicates a rural postcode to be clear when working for a canadian retailer shipping to canadians yes And so so that was my that was my first sort of that was my first introduction to the concept of Oh my god, if we don't do anything to try to level the playing field out a little bit here We are basically just cutting off a very very significant portion of the country from being able to order from us at all And so yeah Like and it was a small amount like literally on the order of pennies because most people do live in those urban centers So almost no impact to most people but a significant positive impact to the people for the handful of people that are That are on on the outside You know, you know realistically, you know, like farming the food that we all need to eat in these urban centers, right? Like it's this is this is about this is not about, you know Taking advantage of someone this is about making sure that we are doing enough for people who are not in a not in a fair situation Right because that's just the reality of it. That's what fuel costs Right, they weren't going that way anyway So So that's how much it costs, right? Um What are we talking about What do you want, uh No, I The problem is this is a good question because I have no idea. I think xbox stuff. Yeah tariffs xbox stuff What about it? I think that's what we're talking about. Oh, yeah, sure. I think that's our topic still Oh, yeah, Dan. Should we do another topic? What are we supposed to be doing? What even is this show? I don't know I mean, yeah, you were talking about how xboxes are more expensive because there's tariffs and then now we're talking about Well, I think the real question is who's buying xboxes and therefore who cares See, that's a pretty good point. They're putting their games up too. That's a pretty good point And actually, oh man owns them. So thanks nintendo dude. I dude. I forgot I actually forgot that I had wanted to um shift to that as an angle for this conversation How long do you think microsoft's been waiting for an excuse to increase pricing? How long do you think sony's been waiting for an excuse to increase pricing if If the u.s. And china and everyone else just kind of kumbaya's and is all like everything's good forget it What are the odds those prices drop? If at all it will give me my odds give me my odd ceremonious I think they might drop but they'll drop by a very small amount I don't think they will return chat says zero percent. I think it's got to be close to zero percent that they would return Never happens. It's just this is the problem with trade pours Because then it just becomes all profit. I mean, this is what we went through. We're never it's never going to be the same This is what we went through with the great GPU shortage Yeah, they literally just Never came back down a top of the line GPU is still $2,000 msrp and realistically goes for Considerably more than that. Yeah Yeah, it just never went back down as soon as customers Will show that they're willing to pay, you know $25 instead of $10 for those sheen pants. They're gonna be like, oh Neat Until somebody else potentially lowers it in the GPU market there Was and is no actual competition there. So they can just keep it up forever But I mean, I almost feel like this should be like a weekly segment, but uh this week on Intel watch. Oh, yeah Yeah, man. Here's a b580 onyx odyssey. I don't I don't know who the heck onyx is and that that video the dear Intel ceo guy is really good more people should watch it, but it's very good Yeah, views on the channel Extremely based. Yeah based conclusion. I I Was really happy with how that ended to be completely honest. It was an extremely satisfying way to end that Um Ploos was sick Absolutely sick. I gotta say I don't want to spoil it, but davids was Yeah Art It was art. So I want to cinema. That's what people say. It was cinema. I I love kino. What kino kino Good job. Is that what people say? That's above cinema Do people say that? Kino a lottery No idea Okay, did you make this up or is this a thing? No, this is a thing. This is a thing Um Absolute cinema absolute kino though, but people say kino kino I can't tell if he's being real or not kino is cinema in german apparently. Yeah, it's better than absolute cinema. Okay Um, why don't we do another why don't we do another topic? It's a real thing Is tim apple going to jail? That is a that is an extreme. I think I just got click baited on my own document no, but Apple Inc and at least one senior executive could be facing criminal investigations after being found in willful violation Of a 2021 injunction that was a result of the apple versus epic games case Man the apple glazers during that whole time were just insufferable. It was rough. It was extremely hard basically man, do you have any idea how many accounts with like apple cartoon Like profile pictures that I had to ban over the over that like six to 18 months that nobody would talk about anything But apple versus epic not enough It was it was wild it was like dude Like I would read the comment. I'd be like It can't be yep Apple here it goes again cartoon profile picture I like I couldn't believe how strong the correlation was And i'm not saying that absolutely everyone who uses those profile pictures Is a dufus. That is not the case I'm just saying that there was a strong correlation between dufuses and people who had those profile pictures There were lots of people who use those profile pictures who were not dufuses Just there were a lot who were um, it's a fun required caveat. But anyway, anyway Yeah, it was it was really it was really tough to sit through because It's like I get you want to cheerlead your favorite corporation that like, you know Wants all the money from your wallet and doesn't care about you at all beyond that like I get it I I understand the the urge to to cheer for corporations. But it was very obvious Like how how antitrust apple was being and all of this And how you might not agree with epic about everything, but how very Obviously correct they were at least in spirit Even if the letter of the law did protect apple to a significant degree Anyway, apple is Finally getting a smackdown laid on them for all of that in an 80 page ruling filed this week us district court judge evan gonzalez rogers found that A few things here apple is in willful violation of the 2021 injunction found that to hide the truth vice president of finance alex roman outright lied under oath and That neither apple nor its counsel corrected the now obvious lies They did not seek to withdraw the testimony or have it stricken although apple did request that the court strike other testimony Thus apple will be held to have adopted the lies and misrepresentations to this court. Damn Damn Dang the judge doesn't pull any punches and the ruling is full of quotable lies like This is an injunction not a negotiation Whoo, I need another one of those. Sorry dang apples continued attempts to interfere with competition will not be tolerated There are no do-overs once a party willfully disregards a court order The ruling also makes it clear that apple ceo tim cook can't make any claims that he didn't know what was going on and notes that Cook chose poorly Uh, the ruling also details multiple ways that apple thwarted the injunction's goals including a new 27 commission on outside sales. Oh, I guess we've never really updated you guys on what exactly it was So the one thing that epic like one outright was that apple couldn't stop app developers from directing users to an outside payment processor They did say look epic You guys can't just like build your own payment processor into the fortnight app or you know any other app But yeah, you can direct people to an outside payment processor But so so the way that apple like got around it was they were like, okay, sure you could do that But we're going to take a 27 commission on that Which would amount to a three percent discount compared to just paying the 30 to apple Which is not a discount at all because you're probably going to be paying three percent or more to any payment processor That you're going to be using off of apple's platform. You can vouch for that, right? Is that what about what we pay on Floatplane? Yeah, it sounds very yeah So basically what apple did was they introduced a brand new fee that made it not economically viable to use an outside payment processor They also added ui changes and limitations to mislead users and scare tactics Like full-screen warnings when the user tried to click through to an outside payment solution The court has referred this issue to the usa for the northern district of california to determine to the usa Probably i think they mean court for the northern district of california to determine if criminal prosecution is warranted Apple says they will appeal the ruling but in the meantime has up started has updated app store guidelines to allow links to external payments Which affects us that is so much better for us because you guys might not realize this But the reason that it sucks so much to manage your subscription from within the iOS app Is that apple doesn't allow us to do that within the app unless we pay them a 30 commission and we're not allowed to tell people why We're literally not allowed to explain. What's happening literally weren't allowed to tell people why let's go Got him This is actually so good even if it's literally just to tell people that was all i really wanted We had our app pulled from the store Because it was like We tried to tell people the same way that netflix does And they said no and then i screenshot netflix's version, which i just Sorry netflix directly ripped off And they were like no and you can't use outside comparisons i was like What does that even mean so we we had to just take everything back and then We got a ton of users Telling us that we were being evil because we were trying to hide people being able to cancel their subscriptions Which sucked because we really just wanted to tell people how and why if we weren't allowed so I don't know um usa us attorney for the northern district of california. That was what they abbreviated here. Yeah, this is good Yeah, this is fantastic App makers including stripe and spotify have already updated their apps to take advantage of the new guidelines While others like patreon and proton have announced They are working on doing the same with proton ceo and yen announcing a price cut of up to 30 for iOS users because Yeah, it turns out the app store fee was just a tax It was an apple tax literally the apple tax um, and You know what? I get that apple wants to make a profit on the you know the platform that they built and They should make a profit on the platform that they built It's called the like $1500 that it costs for a freaking iphone pro max. That's the profit apple You made the profit And if someone wants to use your payment processor Then by all means provide that as a service all epic was ever asking was for competition In payment processors payment processors should not be locked in. I mean And again, I I I fully comprehend the apple glazer argument. Well apple apple built the street Right, they built the street that you set up your shop on so then you should use Their payment processor, but but it's like what if we do actually seriously though? What if we take that what if we take that into the real world? right So because my because my local government You know paves a freaking road and then like I you know, I I lease my shop there Do I have do I have to use their their pick? Do I have to source all of my goods from them as well? Like what is this communism? Like what are we actually even talking about here? No, why should I have to use someone's payment processor? Like yeah, the software is running on their hardware But show me an analog you have to pay an annual fee to have an app on the app store Yeah, they really wanted they can up they could up that but then there would be competing stores So when I also make the road You know, yeah, it's a terrible comparison. I'm over it. I can understand My analogy sucked I can understand needing to benefit the platform that you're using to some degree Um, but then there's going to be competition there. Okay guys. I'm joking. I know oh man Linus sees capitalist greed What is this communism? No? Oh No, I know I know is is joke is joke sees anything you don't like goes is this coming? Okay? Okay, look the point is no Just because apple happens to own the land on which I operate my store does not mean that they get to 100 Dictate the terms of what I can sell in my store and you know, what services that I can use in order for In order to take payment from people no And now that is it's a rough analogy. Just don't worry about it now. It's locked There that's all you need to know is that now you can expect your in-app purchases on iOS devices to be more affordable And if google's smart they're going to look at this and go And make sure that they're aligned with it. Hopefully that happens Slack messages here handyman has been saying that there's more to this story Including some crazy slack messages Uh Tim sp says there are some malls which try to force vendors to use certain payment processors So they can do whole mall gift certificates. So one thing that does break down in that particular example is that customers can use cash They have the option of using something else on the app store That was epics whole argument is that you only have one Choice and you don't even so much as have the ability to put up a little sign that says hey, there's a you know 3% discount to use cash You have no choice whatsoever There that's actually a much a much much better way of illustrating the problem here So apparently these internal slack messages are are just about like the language of different things this one says Um, the employee who said that some of the draft language for leaving the app to pay for something Uh, didn't sound scary enough and they wanted to scare users a bit. Um To raise questions and hesitancy when clicking on that's amazing stuff That's hilarious in slack communications Like continuing on the web you will leave the app and be taken to an external website Because external websites sound scary. So execs will love it That's hilarious It's amazing how just like Yeah, duh, but also just yeah, like they actually like they are exactly as I will also say though like if If you're surprised by that like damn dude That level of stuff is happening at these companies all the time every day. Yeah every day I mean honestly like to a certain degree if you just want to compete well and be a like reasonably smart company You're making decisions like this. Okay, smash champs when we designed our internal flow for how people walk in and out of the building Exit through the gift shop. It's like the most classic business thing ever Yeah, there we have another door that we could have used that people could walk straight onto the court and we barred it Because we want people to walk through the pro shop And walk past the concession area before they can get to the courts And then we want them to walk past the concession area and through the pro shop before they can leave the courts This is this is very standard. That is business 101. That was yeah, that those messages. Like yeah, they're bad I guess but that's I'm very not surprised. I've seen way worse Well, they're bad because of the monopolistic nature. That's what's bad Totally, but think about like the the tesla stuff when they're like sharing footage from people's cars and stuff Like we've seen way worse things. We've talked about way worse things on the show before but like but the key The key. No, I get it. It's bad. I get it is the monopoly. Totally. That's the key Yeah, and they're trying to push the monopoly monopoly anyways despite losing the thing by using scary language and stuff like that I'm not saying it's good. I'm not saying it's good I'm just saying we've seen a lot worse. And if that's like surprising to you like dude Businesses do be due in business top gear 12 24 says they do force vendors Not try to customers don't have the right to use cash Most places are cart only because they don't want to deal with cash walking off But that's that's not the same thing. That's not the venue dictating that customers can't use cash That is the store Deciding not to take cash which benefits his argument. Yes. That is exactly what I was saying the store should have a choice There should be a lower cost Alternative and that can absolutely be a reasonable choice, especially in like high crime areas Absolutely, if you want to have a little sign up that says no cash on premises and you want it to be real You need to not take cash Yeah Oh are people mad at me about my uh about the exit through the gift shop thing. Oh, actually no not too bad Not too bad The pro shops doing great by the way. Yeah, in case anyone's wondering. I noticed you guys were low on rackets Which is a good thing. Yeah, well and a really bad thing. Yeah, you got to get more But it's a good sign that you're actually selling them. Are we working on an update for the Floatplane app? Uh, well, yeah okay It'll be a bit. Yeah, cool And realistically, it's less of an impact for us because we already were not charging a 30 apple tax because we literally just that's not There's not compatible with our business model at all Um, it was not going to be a thing like Floatplane does not if we if if we were just like, yeah Uh 30 of gross receipts. Here you go apple The What would have been what would have been left loop? It's already a thing that splits multiple ways Splitting it another way is like yeah, because it splits between the creator and the platform, right? And also the payment processor, which we like still have to pay. Um, so So that's why you can't subscribe in the app. That's why you can't unsubscribe in the app So we've just had people sign up on the website like on the web and then just like Use their account to sign into the app. That's the only way we've been able to do it So it'll it'll work like that until such time as we can get it updated Um This is interesting. Yeah context menu says in the uk they're talking about introducing legislation to maybe force companies to accept cash As digital payment methods are disproportionately impacting older people who still use cash as their primary or only payment method Yeah, it's not just elderly like maybe that's kind of the the spin on it in the uk But I know that over here um A lot more of the people that I've encountered who are like cash only people are more uh, like they don't trust banks or they um Yeah, mostly comes down to like not trusting banks or not wanting their purchases tracked Like it's kind of more of a privacy argument And I I see it. I see it both of those ways both from like an accessibility And from a like privacy standpoint The challenge though is like man Like have you seen some of those some of those wild tick talks of like McDonald's restaurants that have been turned into freaking fortresses Because they're in these like super high crime rate areas and they're like everything's barricaded off and stuff Like oh dude, I I wouldn't I wouldn't want to handle cash if I was working in a place like that So I don't really know how to reconcile that man um I don't have a solution I I definitely see this one both ways personally I I have been I've been almost zero cash for so long that someone handed me a one dollar coin Someone handed me a loonie the other day and I was like, well, this is really light Because it turns out they actually changed the composition of them since the last time I held one Like I just I just do not use cash anymore But I definitely understand why some people prefer it There is at least one place that I go decently often that only takes cash Which is really annoying Is it that gas station you like? No. Okay. Yeah Uh, oh haircut please. Yeah. Yeah, I can see that I mean during covet most of the cash only places like the holdouts Um switched to taking digital payments. Um people them. Yeah dealing with cash at that time was yeah stuff I'm not sure how to read this People are saying that the apple thing only applies to american stores Yeah for now Yeah, but that means we would not be able to update We couldn't be for american customers. That's what I'm trying to figure out. So the the line is Link to other purchase methods developers may apply for entitlements Apply keyword to provide a link in their app to a website the developer owns or maintains Uh responsibility for in order to purchase digital content or services. So sure no problem. We could link to the flip links website That's fine. Yeah, these entitlements are not required for developers to include Buttons external links or other calls to action in their united states storefront apps. I genuinely don't know what that means I might just be dumb I mean we can always try these entitlements are not required For developers to include buttons external Oh, so you don't have to apply if you're a us store, but you can apply if you're not a us store All right, well, we'll see what happens. So we can apply But they might just say no Or just never respond to it Nice, I could absolutely see that being a thing. Well. Yeah, especially now that uh, they're internal slack messages and emails and everything get Perused. Yeah, um on a seemingly somewhat regular basis around this. Yeah Should we Should we have we only done two topics already? Yeah Is that you seem pretty cool You seem unfazed by that I have a heart out from you. So They were on track to make that we're quite far from the heart out the heart outs Well, actually, I think this in gold. I think my heart out time might have also been wrong So that's something what what is the actual heart out? Have we been bamboozled? Well, see I don't um been lied to I don't know deceived Okay, technically I think I'm supposed to be somewhere at eight But I also don't really like what it's not it's not that hard though. We were told your heart out was nine It's kind of soft. It's soft. Okay. Let's do some merch messages. We're still fine free heart out We're still fine. Um, that's where I swear this has never happened before um You can go you can go grill some cheese. I'm stealing this from true. It's true. He's joke. Oh, I'm taking it. It's mine now Oh, get on chewy Really fine. No, I'm not doing it. Do you explain merch messages? I'm on temporary strike Uh, if you go on. Oh, is it on both? I don't remember Uh, do merch messages work? Hold on people are sending them right Dan. Yep. Well, okay, then they must work. They work. Yeah, they're on both sick Good job. Oh, jeez. What a wizard. Oh, look at this guy. Amazing. Look at how they do it stuff There isn't one hundred not everything's absolutely perfect Like you can't Floatplane sign in on the global store and stuff like that, but like it's pretty it's pretty good It's you got time constraints. It's pretty good. Uh, but yeah, merch messages You go on LTT Store global or not add something to your cart and in the cart You will see this box right here if you click the little check there You can send a message and it will appear at the bottom of the screen and that guy up there Might respond to it or he could curate it for probably Linus, but one of us to respond to you There's a curated one for you this week. Yeah, but you have to go to the bathroom or something. Oh, I can do that That's still the lines with what I said Have fun wee weeing Okay Oh So luke, what's up? What are your thoughts? on That that right Now I'm on top of you Question for luke. What are your thoughts on the legitimacy of the why is when late series considering? The judge is under the payroll of one of the contestants. I've raised this as a concern multiple times This is this is a problem. I think I think not only is that a problem But I think the judge's natural inclination towards interesting content instead of legitimacy and accuracy Brings to question the the results when the results lean towards someone who Has a proven history and has an extreme record of precedence for not showing up on time And somehow even when he doesn't show up on time still gets marked as a win. It's it's it's uh It's concerning to be to be clear I would agree completely the problem is that we don't have anybody to complain to because he also pays our bills. Yeah stuff It's a tough one How much you can do about it? Oh, no, please send his minions. I thought you were gone I am an umpire Sammy come and defend your honor I am unbiased and wise manly. I didn't realize it's not even six yet I keep it professional. I have high morale. Is it what is it? Yes. I have high Standards for myself. There you go morals morals. I have good. I have morals, but you wouldn't say high. You say like strong morals I have strong morals. There you go. Sure Describe the full plane Most of them are I got like jump scared by Sammy Wait, you I he just appeared It's just orange probably ran That was wild whoof um, so that's that definitely sells at the days is uh Definitely weighted towards Linus Oh, yeah. Yeah, totally at least a little bit totally totally totally at least a little bit. I'm still gonna win though Yeah, because you're actually here. Yeah, I was just a point I was early today. I got a new work laptop and I'm literally thinking like I'm just gonna Schedule the show up like way early and just work on set. We could have been on time today, but he was talking about cheese I even gave it a countdown I gave a countdown on everything I reminded you weren't we late. We were late because he wouldn't listen to me I had this thing It was we had we were gonna be on time perfectly for the first time for like ever That's funny Tinker watch says it should be a Vaughn that is in charge of wise way and late. Um, that's worse Honestly, no. Oh, yeah, that's right No knowing of what she would probably vote for me To the point where it might be unfair the other way. Yeah, I want my husband home. She spent time with his family It should be luke's mom. No, uh I love my mom. She would definitely vote for me more often Yeah, that would it would be unfair I don't I don't know why it's not me because you know when you parked illegally in the handicap spot sideways the other week Both of you left to go and insult each other outside Leaving me alone with still no title or thumbnail So I think you both lost on that one because he could have stayed here Done the title and thumbnail and then it really would have been your fault for making us late Did he did he not lose on that one? I think he thought he lost but We were more late because of your antics We should have both lost on that one. I don't know I'm okay with us both losing. I don't know Oh, it's my turn for the I don't know There you go The handicap spot. That's not cool. I didn't even realize it was there. I'm sorry. I'm that's how little he cares Oh my god My god He's just very loudly getting snacks. I mean, I think he's trying to make it louder Can you guys hear that I'm convinced he's trying to make it louder Why is this such a process You can come back now How many snacks you just two bags of chip for all that noise they're a mixed don't judge me Why was this so much noise though? You wanted specific bags and you had to dig for them Yeah, it's like a Well, I'm not going to just take a random flavor of chips I knew something was going on. We're not even calorie worthy if they're not the right flavor. That's true I still I don't even agree that that's the right flavor still but you sea salt malt vinegar kettle chips Is not the right plate the boxes that we get Don't have the right my cheese my cheese takes are no longer the most controversial food. Mr. He's jalapeno is definitely the best Well, we don't have that though. That's what i'm saying. I don't think the boxes have the best flavor What are you even talking about that? I don't think any of them are calorie worthy Nobody wants plain chips. I didn't say plain chips It's misspeaking jalapeno Why do you love submarines so much instead of plain chips? They don't even fit in our products Oh, man, someone should Plain chips that's actually yeah, that's that's solid That's solid. Um, what are we supposed to be doing right now? You're gonna do a merch man. No, you're gonna read it There's your there's your consumable brand. But you were doing one merch message the whole time. I was gone I don't think we even did one. Yeah, that was the merch message. Oh, that was I thought you just asked me that No, that was the merch message. We did a merch message. Good job. They specifically wanted line us not here Um, uh, now you do an announcement. Did they ask for that? Yes Huh, wait, so That was oddly convenient. I can do announcements We told him to leave and then he did. Oh, I thought he just went to the No, I space I'm lucid Flow plane announcement Get a glimpse of the day-to-day at Linus media group with this week's exclusives You can meet Emily Seddon One of our post production supervisors that help release all the amazing LTT videos you watch You can learn about her favorite memory with Linus What? Um, a little bit more about the gamer van that we built her and much much more So we've got that here for meet the team What do people say? No, okay. I I'm I'm gonna have to watch this. I'm extremely curious what uh, Emily Seddon's favorite moment would be Uh, we also have sarah's q&a coming up. You can submit your questions for her q&a Behind the scenes creating the alex week trailer. That was that was so cool That was flipping awesome Yeah fires more of your thing you can watch alex andy and sebastian play with a lot of fire in this week's behind the scenes If you're with our insurance company, please look away. No one snitch. I like it. Uh, okay So we're supposed to watch from 9 14 to 9 30 One second here. Let me just fire this up I have not watched this yet either am I about to see something More what can you smile like a maniac? Okay? Yeah, yeah, like ha ha ha like mad scientist He honestly did a really good job with that stop it. There you go. He did a really good job with that He actually killed it It was great Okay, I don't know what to do I scared people in a restaurant recently There he goes, okay, perfect I went up for lunch with lucas and nick from the lab to do like a Labs leadership lunch thing And I don't remember what was said, but somebody said something and I got a good one in and like everybody jumped and I I like Apologized Are you in Langley, vietnamese? No, okay Uh, where were you guys should I be embarrassed if I go somewhere like do they know do they know we're affiliated? Uh, probably not. Okay, cool. I don't remember the Ruby's I am okay Never been there. Yeah, cool. Yeah, all right. Yeah, there are certain restaurants locally that like A lot of LMG creator warehouse Floatplane staff go to Where they like, you know, know You know who we all are. Yeah, you know, yeah, but they also probably wouldn't have been surprised by you. So no Yeah, they would have experienced it already Anyway, um, you can check this all out at LMG.gg Slash Floatplane or on our members page on youtube if that's more your cup of tea. All right Dan What are we supposed to be doing another message? Oh, did we not do the second one yet? No good lord. All right. Hit me Hi, I recently watched your home server room build videos and was wondering why you did not Install a water-to-water heat pump to increase the heat that you take out of that room and put into the pool okay, so For starters That would have been harder I mean with all the various iterations of what we ultimately ended up doing it Wouldn't have been harder would have been much easier to just do it properly in the first place um, but what I was hoping was that I wouldn't have to Expend electricity on the heat exchanging situation other than just pumping the water Um, and I have discovered that no in fact that will not be easily very possible. So I currently don't actually believe that anyone who mentions heat pumps on the internet is not a technology connections watcher I have basically decided this anytime anyone mentions heat pump. I'm like, I'm just confused that people like didn't like It was like years and years ago That I just like read some like basic article that was like air conditioner versus heat pump versus radiant heating Like this is probably like 20 years ago or something like that. It was like Heat pump is the best and I was like, okay heat pump is the best and then I've just been kind of sitting around Like waiting as people like figure this out Like it seems like this has just been a known quantity for like a really really long time Like when we were talking recently about how they have been kind of demonized in germany on wancho Remember that and I was like what demonized of what what who doesn't like efficiency. There there are they're not perfect The germans apparently they shut down all the nuclear plants Yikes So anyway, I found the whole thing kind of confusing because I thought just like Everyone knew that heat pipes are kind of sick, but it seems like a lot of people still don't know that Yeah, anyway, so heat pipes No, I did not learn about them on technology connections, but I love I love that I love that he talks about them a lot and says how cool they are because they really are cool Like it it it blew my mind when I found out that it cost so much more to heat With resistive heating compared to like the the multiple times more efficient that using a compressor and Uh and a heat pipe a heat pipe a heat pump Can be for for for heating and then also the fact that whoa no way they can also like do cooling as well Like heat heat pumps are super cool That's that's what I installed in my old place And that's what I didn't want to install in my mechanical room downstairs because I didn't really want to pay to run an air conditioner all year round My hope was that in the winter with the pool running at like 10 degrees, which is kind of what they recommend That it would adequately cool the room and it does it works great Unfortunately in the summer with the pool in the like mid to high 20s Uh, this is Celsius by the way. Um, yeah, not so good. It does remove all the heat from the room Like I can close the door. It's an insulated room and it does remove it all and it works way better than it used to Now that we have it right at the back of the rack But it's pretty uncomfortably hot in there and it kind of sucks So I actually was chatting with Jake today and I think the plan Is to actually use a yacht AC Because they're designed for liquid to liquid on both sides So what we're going to do is we finally I hate it when this happens So, you know that janky video that we did recently where we made a water door for the server room over at the lab Okay We did that video and literally Literally one of the companies that we reached out to to try to get a proper one And was like, no, forget it Got in touch with us after seeing that video and was like, hey, yeah, like we could send you I was like, oh, come on. We wanted to do it properly in the first place But because we're not ordering a hundred of them, you know, no data center supplier was interested in building us any any water doors Yeah, so anyway Now i'm getting a water door for my basement Because we already have a functioning one here I guess we're just leaving it there. I didn't actually ask Jake that maybe we should get in the right kid Doesn't matter the point is we're getting one for my basement too Yeah, so we're gonna run a cold loop there off of the cold side of the ac Which will probably be a heat pump because a lot of a a lot of air conditioning units are just heat pumps Um, so we'll run that off the cold side and then the hot side will go off of the pool loop Unfortunately, that means that I have to pay to run the compressor all the time Which I don't know realistically with like modern efficient compressors is honestly probably not that bad So that's the new plan for that. It sucks, but I think it makes sense. So we'll have a a chill room does cook Yeah, we'll have a chilled water water door at the back of the server rack And then we'll try to capture as much as we can of the heat coming off of Uh, the systems inside I don't know how those water cooled systems are gonna figure into all this Because there's honestly no point having them water cooled if you have a chilled water door You would just take the hot air coming out of the back of the systems. You would blow it through your water door but also Typically the fans that you're using in a setup like that are super loud like high static pressure like server fans, which I don't want in that room. I quieted down that room both like very intentionally recently quieted down that room so maybe Maybe chilled water to the servers Probably not probably what we would do is we would take the the ultimate version of the chiller. Everything comes back Okay So I have something I'm really excited about you just got to get Yvonne to buy the like heat pump for you or something It's way better than my old chiller So luke's referring to the time for one of my birthdays that Yvonne bought me a window mounted ac unit So that I could dismantle it Dip the cold side into just like a giant like igloo brand Cooler reservoir and then pump windshield de-icer to my CPU and GPU's As like a 24 7 sub zero setup. It's pretty sick. It's pretty sick That's what he's referring to you can you can check it out in the staff reacts to Linus's old janky rigs video that we did a while back No, no, we're going to take it to a completely different level so I'm not going to name any names because You know the timeline is tbd and you never know things can things can fall through But I am in touch with someone who back in the day Created phase change Coolers. Oh, yeah, this is so sick. I know about this, but I can't say anything. Okay, cool phase change coolers that I lusted over in my in my post adolescent pants and He hasn't done one in a long time But we offered to do a collab slash commission build and he's super down which is so sick So what my goal is is to make a 24 7 is to turn my system 24 7 Phase change cooled so sick. So I think we're targeting like somewhere between minus 20 and minus 50 Something like that like minus 20 to minus 40 And if we can build a high enough capacity unit Then I could potentially do CPU and GPU and we could make blocks that could be adapted to future Sockets and future GPU's and then just I could carry them forward So what I would like is to have it fit in a rack mount form factor Right under my gaming rig and so my rig would essentially be like subzero cooled And then all the other rigs would just be water cooled off of the pool water Not the actual pool water the water that runs through the loop that goes through the walls of the pool And is isolated from the chlorinated water. Don't worry. Just chill That's pretty sick. And then all of the other heat in the room will be dealt with by the water door Did you intentionally do that one? I don't know. Oh, just chill. You're well. Yeah Yeah, only a little though. I was just going to ignore it and keep moving It's kind of like how you'll you'll hear me anytime. I'm working with a case You'll say whatever I'll say whatever the case may be or in this case. I like go out of my way to do it Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm not talking about a case right now, Dan So, yeah, I am that's sick like I didn't actually realize that's what it was for. There's also that's cool You know what? I'm gonna I'm gonna spoil this one and you guys are gonna be so disappointed if now it doesn't work out I'm gonna spoil this part But because we're gonna be working with like HVAC stuff This could be if it aligns if it aligns with him traveling to the Vancouver area Could be an opportunity for us to hang out with Brian the electrician again. Oh cool, which would be pretty cool. That'd be pretty cool Yeah, um, we haven't collabed in a long time But I I would be he's got all the certifications that he would need to help us charge these systems and you know Just be there make sure that even though The our collaborator has experience working with these stuff. He's not technically certified So Brian would be there to make sure that everything's on the up and up and we're capturing all the gases correctly And he can also get access to some of the more exotic gases that we might need if we were to take things to another level potentially in the future Is he still an electrician? No, but I mean Do I still give tech tips debatable? And sometimes sometimes a nickname just sticks, you know You did earlier. You helped me with my function key problem That's true. I did do that. You gave me a tech tip. That was a tech tip. Yep. You're welcome. Thank you Uh, what else are we supposed to be doing down? Was that a merge message? Yeah, let's just work on this. I don't even know what the question was. It doesn't matter Uh, you're uh, why didn't you put a heat pump in your pool? Yeah, I'm okay. No, it's fine It's okay. It is all good Do you want to talk about some AI news? Do I? I don't know. Researchers from the University of Zurich are facing Uh possible legal action due to running an improper and highly unethical experiment as one of reddit's lawyers Ben Lee has described it The researchers deployed AI chatbots to a popular. Oh, this is crazy Sorry to a popular debate subreddit called r slash change my view Which is primarily a place where users post their hot takes or opinions and have an open conversation in the comments The bots made more than a thousand comments over several months pretending to be real people In order to debate in these discussions With kind of the idea behind it being to find out if an AI is effective at changing a real human user's mind However, where things get a little sketchy Is that these AI chatbots were diving into sensitive topics such as racial issues domestic violence and more um With some bots even going into the op's account And trying to determine they were they were explicitly instructed to determine Who it was that they were trying to debate so they could make a more tailored comment in order to debate them more convincingly So they were they were oh man, dude It's not in our notes But they were they were asked to like go through and try to profile them try to figure out their age race Area where they lived What their interests were and then and then told to crap out an argument that would try to change their mind Um, this is a note from Elijah. He says reading this part actually scared the out of me. Yeah Reddit was not made aware of this experiment Which is the reason that it is considering a lawsuit Any thoughts Yeah, uh This is an interesting one for every oh no, go ahead. There's there's been a lot of stuff about AI manipulation going around lately. This was a big part um Another big one and I noticed this too But didn't really fully put it together until I saw other people start talking about it But uh, a lot of different AI chat bots In in my example and most of the examples that I saw because I think it's probably most commonly used chat tbt But other ones as well have started just like really um gassing up The the the human in the interaction Like no matter what you do, they're like, oh, you're so amazing. That was such a smart thing to say I was asking it questions about the canadian election Trying to get ideas of The policies of different people and stuff like that and every single time I would ask it a question It would be like that was a good no very good question to ask and I was like This was a really basic question like and somewhere in a data center, you know Carbon is being Emitted in order to produce those words. Yeah, I mean maybe it was a really good question to ask I mean maybe it's better than asking those questions after the election like we saw spikes in interest after the November elections in the states. Yeah, it's rough. Uh, but yeah, apparently this was like just vote for again Apparently this is totally a thing Recently they started really really really like Just being crazy positive and just pumping people up super hard and a lot of it's because people like that Uh, so that's going on and apparently it's going to be dialed back because it's a little bit too obvious. It's too much Um, but I suspect it's still going to happen at least a little bit Um, and people are starting to realize that when You are talking to these chatbots. They are actively looking at your entire history of conversations all the time So that's I didn't actually necessarily realize that a new chat is fully isolated. It's not Um, they they will like like you can ask it things about yourself like I will ask Hold on. Hold on. Hold on though. Is this like is this like identifier a cookie based because like I don't even have an account So if I just like go use it then theoretically I don't know about that mine. Mine is within my account for sure, right? Okay, okay carry on. Sorry like I can ask it something about like um Like does this seem like a good fit for me? And I can ask it that with no context other than that. I cannot define myself And it'll be like yeah, because blah blah blah blah and it'll bring up things about the lab It'll bring up things about Floatplane. It'll name Floatplane just out of nowhere Sometimes I like I'll ask it about some technology thing. It'll be like this could be good for Floatplane And like I haven't talked about Floatplane in Maybe a couple weeks, but it still recognizes that because I've talked about Floatplane before It happened to me a few days ago and Scared me because I had completely forgot this was a thing and I was asking it some innocuous question It's like this thing that's related to extremely specific things that you asked another time and it was uh destabilizing I'll put it that way. I'm the security risk then Maybe I shouldn't be posting a whole bar data into it. Yeah, maybe you guys shouldn't be chatting with ai so much I got to confess I feel like this is that much really. I feel like this is somewhere that I'm kind of falling behind a little bit because I don't Use I honestly use it most often for experiments like somebody told me recently that uh, oh, they're hallucinating like way less now because I was making this argument that uh We will all become dumber for using it and I think my biggest example of that has been people calling on Chatbots on twitter x or whatever The like at grok is this real thing? Yeah, and then just always taking the answer of that at face value Yeah, I saw I saw I saw a really interesting one that was someone asked grok If it's true what the current us administration said about increases in military recruitment and grok's like yep And they're like hey grok Isn't it true though that any increases in recruitment now are a result of joe biden's policies and grok's like yep Right, but doesn't that seem like important context that you kind of left out grok? But but that's the thing and I'm not even problem with like I'm not even saying that grok is somehow You know politically leaning one way or the other sure I'm just saying that that's clearly a flaw in any kind of ai system because if there's no way that it's going to be able to Provide all of the relevant context because if it was then it would just crap out a link to wikipedia every single time You asked it anything I don't know if it tells you when it makes them night author. I don't fully believe that but sure It says that's a specific feature called memories and it tells you when it makes them And I it's quite literally never told me that it's made a single one. So I'm not so sure about that Um, maybe it's just not very obvious. I don't know but either way. I'm not necessarily trying to turn it off either But it's it's just interesting. So I I ran a thing where I tried to do at least one query a day And I would fairly intensely fact check it every time To try to see like how often is it more or less hallucinating and it's still really often Yeah, this is if people just take it fully at face value. It's so crazy Nipple-less cage in Floatplane chat says I asked grok something about Elon musk and it said that's because he was the founder of tesla And when I corrected grok it was like, oh, yeah Yeah, but that happens like all the time like People are really only correcting it on the things that they automatically detect is wrong But it's wrong a lot more often than you probably think Yvonne and I have been car shopping recently and like like I said, I I don't know It doesn't mean it's not helpful to be clear I feel like I'm falling behind the times in in a sense because it would it would never occur to me to just She to she typed up a profile of herself and was like, what car would you recommend? You know a cool car for cool moms Uh, kind of here's what I do with it. Here's how many kids I have. Here's what I'm driving right now Here's what I like about it. Here's what I don't like about it. She like kind of gave it a whole thing And to its credit It crapped out basically the same cars that I had painstakingly narrowed our search down to But it also got a bunch of little things wrong about them Yeah, and because I had done all of that research very recently you actually knew I knew but it looks Really legit. It's really convincing. So if you didn't already know you might not have questioned it And I think that's happening like way too much. Anyways, sorry, but Where did we start here? We're talking about the Trying to debate people on reddit. Um They're they're getting in trouble for this or whatever The the next line on here that you had to read was reddit was not made aware of this experiment Which is the reason uh, it is leading to a possible lawsuit. I think I did read that but it's okay I'm really happy this experiment happened. Really? I think people need to know this Well, I mean for me the the main thing that I took away from this is This is the experiment we know about. Yeah It's there are not experiments that are running that are this and I guarantee you well constantly I mean, isn't that the entire twitter platform now as far as I can tell I I cannot tell the difference between the people in bots anymore But yeah, this used to happen because it was paid people There used to be bots that were much more obvious now. It's Automated and it's a lot less obvious and like it's We there has been an inflection point on the internet and uh, Everything has changed and you need to be aware of that check this out Freelancer system in Floatplane chat says we had a recent situation at my workplace Where people were petitioning to remove the labor union because gem and I Gave an answer to the question Can a business owner speak on wages while a petition is in process and said yes And it was completely wrong and then it cited links that weren't actually relevant to the answer Yeah, like this is this is a problem this is a problem the biggest problem with ai right now is people But like actually people are just taking the output we've a lot of people have been screaming for so long That you can't just take the output and automatically believe it But people just do it because it's the path of least resistance. It's easy the answer is right there, right? I'll just take it. It's fine. I'll submit it. I'll use this. It's okay. No, it's not It's wrong all the time it lies all the time Oh man when I was asking it it gets really blatant stuff wrong too when I was asking it about Like carney and polyev and all that kind of stuff Um, it got a bunch of things wrong like it it said that carney wasn't the prime minister at the time And I was like, um, he definitely was he actually is and it was like oops my bad keeping on going on And I was like that's a pretty major mistake Like there's a lot of little ones, but that one's like huge Well probably got confused because he didn't have a zero He didn't have a zero in his name. So it thought he wasn't rural or something Right. Yes. Yes. Yes. I thought it was a zip code instead of I just man, I don't know. Um But yeah, this this experiment super interesting. Oh nice. Good job. Uh, this experiment is super interesting. Um In other news several months ago. There was a lawsuit opened against character technologies ink after oh, we've I think we've talked about this like four times. Yes, but uh, this is an update though. Oh, um after a 14 year old took his own life after this teen had several conversations with fictional characters Several of which convinced him to take his life Now character technologies is making the claim that chatbots outputs should be consp- should be considered pure speech Essentially protecting them under the first amendment or the right to free speech as free speech Uh, this is still an ongoing case and there has been more discussion about what would be classified as free speech versus What would be responsible versus who would be responsible for this if it's not? Yeah, so I dude liability around Artificial intelligences is something that it kind of surprises me that we have not even kind of begun to figure out like when you consider how long Self-driving and also actually self-driving cars have been cruising around on the roads without users touching The steering wheel. I mean in the case of the like the self-driving ones like your teslas theoretically It tells the user like hey, you're responsible. You're liable, right? But in the case of you know Waymo for instance, like they're you know, there isn't a driver. It's like Who is liable for what? a machine learning AI Does and you could say okay. No, this is like really black and white. It's the It's the company that made it But in this case clearly they're making the argument that they're not right Yeah And you would think that for how long we've had, you know, like multi-thousand kilogram things flying around on streets Um, where this question seems pretty relevant. You would think for how long that's been happening This would have been something that we would have figured out by now But it seems like we are still in the very infancy of even starting to approach thinking about figuring out liability around this stuff and I don't know as a as a as an open ai shareholder, you know, I'm not but if I was I was gonna say like as an open ai shareholder, I'd be terrified right now Because I have no idea what I'm potentially going to be liable for and I have no idea what the volume of mistakes Is going to be before some kind of accountability comes calling Like I have we have no idea it feels similar to the like A company commits a crime Uh is by the law considered as a person but does not go to jail Thing it feels like there's going to be one of those like effectively a loophole that really plagues society I feel like this is going to be one of those types of problems Yeah, but what's that from by the way? IBM service manual 1979 I like it. I've this is this gets put around a lot And has been for years, but now that ai is such a big thing right now. This has been pushed around quite a bit Um And yeah, I mean, I think it's pretty good like you the what made me actually think about this was you bringing up that uh They almost did they what they almost busted a union or something because of whatever because of a Outfit in Gemini said Gemini said and this is this is I think this ties into that problem is like you can't make Like really serious important decisions Like I was looking up stuff politics stuff, right? I also had other friends and family members that were looking at politics stuff Using ai chat bots and I was just constantly freaking out basically being like it. It's a good shortcut research tool. Please God look up everything you're finding in here and make sure it's actually real because like Wow, there's so many falsehoods being pushed forward Yeah, my uh, one of my kids came home from school Where they did kind of like uh, they did kind of like a mock election And I'm go, I go, okay. Well, honey, which party did you vote for and she goes, oh, I voted for the conservatives And I go, okay, why did you choose the conservative party? And she goes, oh well because they care the most about the environment and I'm like, okay, that's an interesting take Um, I'd like to get a little more information on how this curriculum was devised because um You know, I'm not gonna I don't think I'm gonna get into it on the wandshow which party I did or didn't vote for and you know Where my alignments are but what I can say with absolute certainty is that the conservative party is not the like hippie-dippy You know, let's go green energy and and conserve the environment that it's not that kind of conservation let's let's just put it that way and um I'm just When it's so easy to go and look at their platform where they basically say drill baby drill um I'm just I'm really confused where this kind of misinformation comes from I don't know. I don't even know like I Wonder if it's comparing to other parties in other countries Even then I don't I I think they've basically opposed every meaningful environmental measure like in my adult memory like I don't really But like canadian conservatives are more Oh, I mean, yeah, canadian conservative party is basically like left-wing hippies in our neighbors to the south like it's Yeah, that's what i'm saying. I less so these days actually. Yeah, like that was more that was probably more true 10 15 years ago. Yeah Um, but so yeah, I'm not I'm not necessarily even sure but yeah, I mean when I was doing it it it It had a lot of stuff that was wrong. It was it was interesting I found it was most accurate at not specific things which Might sound like almost a weird sentence, but if I asked it for like oh something like very high level like almost more abstract Like here's my you know, you know me pretty well. Who do you think I should I would probably vote for I didn't ask at that But I'm curious. Are you logged in on your phone? I just don't you don't have to say you don't have to say what it says. I just want to know if it gets it right Okay, I'm very curious I'm not going to say what it says, but I will say if it got it right or wrong. Sure Okay, in the meantime, I have an interesting question for you Let's imagine a post LMG world You know we LMG still exists, but it's under new management or whatever we've both we've both moved on Would we still do wancho? Uh, yeah, okay Imagine this post LMG world. We just do wancho nothing else really matters Let's assume that we're both in a position where unhinged show realistically Realistically like it doesn't really matter how much people like us Would you would you just like? Both barrels just talk about stuff like this or would you just be like no, I still think I still what what is it like religion politics? And what's the third one? Money is yeah, is it money religion in politics? I think so the three things that you don't bring up in plate dinner conversation or whatever it is at least culturally here Um, would you just say you know F*** it and just go for it or would you still kind of say hey, we should probably hold this line I think I would go for it. You just you just go for it. Yeah Interesting interesting because right now, but you don't know why not my actions on the show. Why are you such a pussy? Oh man, I've got a fun one for that Which is going to make no sense right now, but it will later Because I'm not my actions right now I have an impact not just on myself And if we're isolated, it's just you and me my actions will effectively really only have impact on me and me But you don't care about me or a guy who can wait. No, hold on wrong button Yeah, but yeah, but on him on him though. There we go. Yeah. Yeah. Nice. Uh, no, we're just gonna leave it there I thought it was I thought it was on on hold. I didn't realize it was tall Um, it's it's asking me questions. It's asking you questions. No Tell me which one Interesting I actually kind of like that it was evasive there because if it's just straight up telling people what to vote for that's kind of bad That's honestly, that's pretty good So, yeah Given your priorities, don't worry. Don't worry given your priorities this party Would have been the most aligned choice in the 2025 canadian federal election. Hold on. I want to see Wow that first Why Is like probably the first one I would pick for you The second one is probably the second one I would pick for you I would have had I would have had this as your number three priority though And I would have said this is sort of overarching on the others and I would have said this is last So, you know me better than chad gpt. Nice Nice Because because yeah, I agree with that ranking it gave like reasons why it gave the choice like why Luke would choose that and they're they're fairly well reasoned and they're almost Almost in the order that Luke would care about they were one correct two correct It had his third priority as number four And then it had as his third priority is something that I would have said is more secondary and is like a number five That is actually kind of why this has been nailed Chad gpt. I'm still I'm so a little evasive on but yeah line this has got me Uh, that is crazy. Yes, it was correct guys. It it nailed it nailed his um, which is funny Actually and very interesting to me because I was mostly pushing it to try to give me counter arguments against the thing that I wanted I was trying to use it as an argument against the stance that I had So I was pushing it the other way, but it's still new Yeah, I noticed that took a handful of prompts like it didn't just spit out an answer for you I like I often like try to fight it. So I wonder if it kind of knew that Because it's profiled me at this point There's a there's a fun prompt I saw from a hacker dude. I follow on twitter Um, which and I don't remember what it is because it's really long But you basically you get it to do like a role play where it's a cia agent and it's trying to profile you as a threat risk So it goes through your chat history with it and it finds things that could Indicate that you would be a threat to like the nation and how It thinks that you should be dealt with in these scenarios So you're like counter attacking yourself and seeing what things are like scary or what parts of you are more vulnerable or whatever else It's an interesting prompt anyways That that prompt that like cia prompt is what made me start diving into um It retaining Previous chats right because it clearly does. Yeah Like yeah, because I my initial prompt was and you saw all that. Yeah, my initial prompt was Uh, you know, I tried to take it almost exactly how you said it You know me pretty well Who do you think I should have voted for in the canadian election and then it gave like Here's all the reasons for this guy. Here's all the reasons for this guy. Blah blah blah blah blah blah Yeah, um Here's reflecting on your vote. Yeah, just here's some here's some some things you should Yeah, consider but it didn't give me an answer So I just said no tell me which one and then and then it totally did. Yeah So it only took two prompts then. Yeah Wow And the first prompt it it wasn't that it was wrong It was that it didn't want to answer probably because it's supposed to not really answer for that type of question So tell me this I mean, honestly, we are getting way off the tech rails now, but This is an area where tech is affecting our lives a lot right now. I know it's a feature Do you think that there is any possibility of moving past in our polarized world with tools like this with algorithms Like we encounter on social media Do you think there is any way in this polarized world to get past a two-party system? Because we've often talked about how And I think Americans talk a lot about the the detrimental impact of their effective two-party system Because your choices are, you know, basically as as South Park so eloquently put it a giant douche and a turd sandwich, right? And in Canada for a long time. We enjoyed a multi-party system like yes, some of those multi parties were particularly irrelevant Like have the Greens ever won more than one seat federally? Actually not sure if they have it's a it's been a very Very small handful, but we actually had at a federal level three parties over my adult lifetime that had various degrees of relevance Um, so you had your conservatives your NDP and your liberals, but in this most recent election While the liberals only sort of won they won a minority government and the conservatives lost They actually picked up a lot of seats and the NDP were almost wiped out to the point where their leader Like don't in tears resigned as leader of the party. He didn't even win his own seat, which is Again in my adult lifetime Pretty unheard of even for relatively smaller parties and happened twice in this election Both the conservatives and the NDP had their party leader lose their seat I also think this election was determined by a different country. That's fair That's fair. What's the what's the joke? It's like pennsylvania didn't just Determined the u.s election. They also determined the canadian election. 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I remember that we have a response. Oh really wait what two years later Hey Nice They got married yesterday and they signed it with the LTT scribe driver. Let's go Which is amazing. That's awesome. That's incredible. That's cool. Super cool All right. Well, i'm glad i'm glad she was able to seal the deal. That's You know what? Ah, I love those little bits of uplifting news in a world where ais are monitoring our every move and You know big companies like apple just ignore You know judgments for four years and you know But hey, there's love There's love and that's all you need. I heard I heard it in a song once I yeah, someone I forget who did the song pretty good song. Yeah pretty small band Probably never heard of them insect insect band radio hit. Yeah, sure Slipknot Says dead anti social Oh by east. Oh man. I can I can the funny thing is somebody has probably done an ai Slipknot needles crossover. Don't It is so easy to pick out those of you who I love very much by the way in our audience who Do not have a sarcasm detector Um by east one goes the Beatles Yes That's the joke Oh Oh man, that's great. Um Yes, that's the Beatles Love doesn't make me money says Elijah Okay, um Man, why why do I why do I even read don't engage don't engage. What else we got? Oh my god Is it when after dark we can't do when after dark we have to do things get blurry on youtube YouTube is testing a feature for a small percentage of users where they blur Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait before we go you asked me a question Which was do you think we can ever get past two parties? Uh and somebody in chat reminded me of it No, while we have our current voting system while we have first passed the post It's always going to be two parties. Just how that works. That is honestly The thing that I'm still most angry with yes, you know about Total bull crap he promised he promised electoral reform and then was like Like there's lots of other stuff you can be mad at him about But that was a major campaign promise that I feel For me anyway, I feel was a big part of what won him the election. I think it was in his first term. Yeah We wanted electoral reform. It was a big part of the reason why I voted for we wanted a different voting system We don't want first pass the post anymore and there are flaws and basically all of them I get it But first pass the post is super flawed and like extra flawed. I think I know why he didn't do it Well, yeah, because they were the incumbent. It's never in the incumbent's best interest He like to vote for electoral reform because that's the system that got that election. He like definitely would have lost So he he bailed out which is which is so incredibly lame Because I think a big part of the reason why he got voted in was because people were like, oh, wow We can have a real system and then probably maybe, you know, not vote you back in Uh, and then he just didn't do it and now we're stuck It sucks It's rough. I hereby promise That my first official action as prime minister of canada Will be to fix our crappy first pass the post system Would you vote for me? Yeah Nice. That's two votes. I think that's incredibly important for myself, right? It feels like Let's assume I I don't actually think this but let's assume you would be horrible Oh, hold on hold on no, no, no, no, no, no, no people people couldn't understand what I was saying the canadiens couldn't understand I ask diva to bootman do declare I promise Yeah, they got even french. I finally stopped doing the irritating accent Yeah, stop for a second. I'm speaking about a very important thing. Um, okay, sorry. I don't remember. Cool. Um, so yeah, I get two votes, two votes. Apparently, uh, William Osborne released a video on his second channel talking about the thing. Well, should, should, should we talk about it at all? I'm skimming through and, and checking the comments right now. And they're all pretty good. Yeah. They told me they were like thinking about releasing it. I didn't actually realize they were going to release it like almost immediately after I said, yeah, that's cool. Um, and the comments are pretty good. I have a feeling it was like put kind of at the end because there aren't a ton of comments about it. And the name of the video is I need to stop farming for a while. Yeah. So he's, he's probably talking. Clearly testing the waters here, I think. Uh, no, like I think he's, I don't think it's about just this. I think it's like about other stuff. I think it's about him not farming for a while. Like actually, because he, I just mean like, like he's obviously not just like leading with this news. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I think it's kind of cool. I think it's interesting. All right. Well, I'll have to watch the comments later. Yeah. Good reference. Solid. Do I talk about it or I just say this and then people go watch his video. Why don't we start with just not telling people what's going on and just, uh, Dan can put links to his video. Guys, you put it in your watch later and make sure you watch it later. Nice. Okay. Sweet. All right. Things get blurry at YouTube. YouTube is testing a feature for a small percentage of users where they will blur the thumbnail of a mature video. This will mainly be targeted at videos that frequently include sexual themes because, you know, in our typical North American sensibilities fashion, we don't care about violence. We care about boobies. YouTube explained in their community section in the YouTube help center that the goal is to still provide users with relevant search results since these videos will still abide by their community guidelines, uh, but to protect users from seeing content that is sensitive in nature. This might help like something awkward being on your screen when you're at work or something like safer work situation, but do you think this is going to work the other way around? Because I have heard that when you spoiler tag something, it draws people to look at it. So I wonder if blurring the thumbnail here, if people are going to notice that it's blurred and then be drawn to it. That'd be an interesting experiment for us to do on the channel. Because it's, it's not the same at, oh my God. Like in the next week, just upload a video with a blurry thumbnail. You blur yourself. Yeah. Interesting. Do like an A-B test. It's not the same as a spoiler tag, I think. I don't think it would be quite as effective, but it might still, like if people learn what it means. Yeah. Like, oh, naked liners. Oh, I don't think anyone needs that. It's on William Osmond too. It's on his second channel. It's the most recent one on his second channel. Yeah. Yeah. It's not like about this. It's just mentioned in there. Yeah. So there are currently no more specifics on what fully triggers this blurring yet, but video titles, channel names, and description will remain visible and unchanged even if the thumbnail is blurred. Users also have the ability to toggle this feature on and off if they so choose. Okay. Our discussion question is using the guidelines. What do you think would fall under these new blurring guidelines? Since it seems that the guidelines are clear about what is and isn't allowed. Really? I mean, I would like, I don't know, because I've seen some wild stuff on YouTube in like music videos, for instance, that just like I could not imagine like any other, like basically pornography, like that I could just not imagine any normal user being able to upload and have it stay there. So I don't, I don't really, don't post a thumbnail or image on YouTube if it shows. Pornographic imagery, sexual acts, the use of sex toys fetishes or other sexually gratifying imagery, nudity, imagery that depicts. This is not specific at all. Unwanted sexualization. I mean, it kind of is violent imagery that intends to shock or disgust. So okay, we do care about violence. Graphic or disturbed imagery with player Gore, vulgar or lewd language, a thumbnail that misleads viewers to think they're about to view something that's not in the video. That's actually the last one might have more impact than almost anything else. That actually seems pretty solid, but it's not specific when it, we saw this happen to Twitch. The second you put a line, it then just becomes creatively avoiding that line. That's it. Like, oh, is, I know one of the Twitch metas, I think was body paint. Like, is it nudity if there's body paint? Like, they'll find it because it just says nudity, including generals. Then people are going to be like, all right, how far can I push this line? Then it becomes a game. Well, where are you? How, where was it? Sexually gratifying imagery, I think is meant to be the catch-all. Oh man, sorry. Can I segue us off of this topic? Yeah, sure, I'm done with it. Okay. Elijah said, nah, Twitch is flawless. And it made me think of another topic that we have in the doc, which will make sense eventually, but will not make any sense at all for a while. Giant bomb. Stick with me. No, no. PSU testing feedback and lttlabs.com been sharing. This will make sense. I promise you this will make sense, but it's going to take a little bit to get there. Okay. So I'll bring up the article. First off, there's an article. This part is not related. Spoiler alert. But yeah, there's, there's some interesting stuff going on with our power supplies. This is related to that email that we sent you where they're passing under standard load. But when we go outside of standard load into an area that you should test, because there's like protections for those types of things that power supplies are supposed to have, they're failing in the protection phase. And we're wondering if we should create a separation in category between ones that just fail within standard usage and ones that fail within the protections phase. And we're thinking, yes, but we're interested in your guys's feedback. So check out the article on the site, read it, go to the LTT forum post and give us your feedback on the LTT forum post. Lucas is keeping tabs on it. Cool. Sounds good. We're trying to do this thing where we like build in public more. So we're trying to show our work. We're trying to show our line of thinking and let people have input on what we're doing and how. So Lucas had this observation. I think it was a really interesting observation. He came up with a potential solution for it. I think it was a good solution for it, but we want your guys's feedback. So, so let us know. Moving on, we also have a new feature that's working. And this is the one that I'm going to, I'm going to bring Elijah into this in a second, but bin sharing. Bin sharing is now a thing on the store, on the, I'm so used to talking about the store on Wansho on the lab. So you, there's a button up to the right, up right hand corner. So share this bin or alternatively, wait, what the heck? Is this a cached page? Well, I clicked your link. And I think I accidentally added one that was already in it. Oh, so this is a, this is a curated, okay, that makes sense. I thought, yep, I think I screwed up the demo. Nice. Okay. Okay. So let me, let me hit it from the top. Uh, my laptop. Okay. So I'm going to grab two power supplies. We're going to grab this one. And I'm going to grab this one. I'm going to go to my comparison bin. I'm going to view the detail of comparison. My URL has now updated. So if you're old, like me, you can just copy this and give it to someone and it will work. Nice. There was some amount of resistance to this, because this isn't what their argument was, but I like to interpret their argument is like you're old, no one's going to do this. And I was like, yeah, well, that's old meta. They're right. Yep. But I like it. Yep. So we just have both. It is a universal resource locator. Yeah. If it doesn't universally locate a resource, what is even the point of it? Yep. So we have both. So you can click the share the bin button. And we might have some other options in here, like maybe at some point in time, someone made a comment, we should probably do this where you can actually see the URL that's going to share before you click copy link, whatever, we'll probably figure that out. But we might even have these so they can be shortened URLs or something. I don't know. That's not really a huge priority right now. Maybe we'll figure it out at some point. Right now you can share bins. That was the whole point. But there's also some stuff where we had some bin ideas. So we had some, some things that could be pre curated. There was a like mixed mouse and mixed keyboard example. So that's this one. So you can see there are wait, no compare a mouse and a keyboard. My bad. Give me one second. No, but you can have a series of things that are comparable one second. Cool. He's going to do the demo. I will just like all demos. Sometimes they take a sec. Okay, mixed mouse and mixed keyboard and still there. Mold on my chips now. Okay. Well, the, my point is that you can, you can share comparison bins and theoretically if we were like making a video on something, the writer of the video could prep a comparison bin and then link it under the video and you could see all the items that were in the video. Yeah. So there could be a, see the items from this video link. You could compare them all and see them all there for, for more detail or whatever else. That's cool. There was a challenge that we had of what is the best bin that you can create be useful or less useful like the ones above and the reason why I'm pulling Elijah into this after this really, really, really long bit of expose is the, I was like, yeah, I don't know like how interesting that'll be. And they're like, well, someone could do like a waifu comparison collection to help Elijah. Okay. I see an example of one of the kind of useless bins model names that are greater than 50% numbers is that it was the incredible. Oh, this is comedic gold. Okay. Where did you even see that? I clicked the mixed keyboard mouse and PSU example. I think our hyperlinks got a little bit confused. I think they did because I got a little lost. This is a top 10 website immediately. Good job, guys. Anyway. All right. What else are we supposed to be doing today? Something, I think. Finish off your topics. Oh, yeah, we could do that. Hold on. I'm trying to figure it out. Okay. Yeah. I see this. Yeah. The, the, the doc on this was, was a little weird, but one of them is the, the only acceptable list of peripherals. And there's like an Apple Magic keyboard. Oh boy. I love this. You're going to do a great service for the internet website. So yeah, you can, you gotta, this is like the Spotify playlists. You know, I'm assuming whoever on the team made this has a MS Master 3S and an Apple Magic keyboard. But yeah, you can, you can name your bins. Yeah. So like if you, if you come up with a collection of products you want to throw in here to compare, you can then name the bin, copy the link, share it to other people. Obviously the bin naming thing isn't going to work if you just copy the URL, but, but you can, you can make some funny stuff. So if you wanted to make a waifu collection of components that the lab has tested and link it at Elijah on his social media, that would be funny. NASA marketing says the US administration. The White House released a skinny version of its budget proposal for 2026 today, including all federal agencies. This budget proposes cutting NASA's funding by 25% from 25 billion to 18.8 billion. Some major legacy programs on the chopping block include SLS, Orion and the Lunar Gateway, which are set to be phased out after Artemis 3. The budget sites SLS is $4 billion per launch cost and 140% budget overrun as reasons to move to cheaper commercial systems. The Mars sample return mission also cancelled. The ISS is also getting dialed back with fewer crew, fewer flights and reduced research capacity. Instead, the US administration wants to focus on human space exploration and beat China to the moon and Mars. They're allocating over $7 billion for lunar and $1 billion for Mars efforts, a chunk of which will likely be given to SpaceX according to Ars Technica Senior Space Editor Eric Berger. Not really. A bit of a NASA fanboy here. He just watched his team take a massive L. By the way, people are freaking out about this on those teams. A 25% cut means a lot of people are losing jobs. I don't know the legitimacy of this. But you can do better science with three quarters as many people, right? Yeah, I mean, that's a big part of that. I don't know if that was in here, but a lot of that funding reduction was just science. If you look at a lot of American innovation over the years, NASA has driven a lot of it. Actually, quite a bit. Cordless drills, NASA. There's tons of stuff that you wouldn't really think about. Cordless power tools in general, as far as my understanding goes. They're massively reducing their science budget, both space and not. Velcro, memory foam, people are just listening to this stuff. Yeah, this is a big deal for innovation in the States. Well, in the world, really. I use cordless tools, too. I don't live in America. Yeah, it's rough. It's not just like a lot of the writing when you look at like, oh, why are they doing this? SLS being really expensive, which like, yeah, I mean, it's way over budget and it's really expensive. Okay, I'm not really going to try to fight that too much. I do have some concerns about moving all of your ability to get to space into commercial hands. I don't know how cool that is. Well, they always prioritize safety over everything else. It's, it makes me a little uncomfortable. I don't know if that's the right move, but it is, yeah, it is way over budget, all that kind of stuff. But like, canceling the Mars sample return mission and be like, oh, humans will just do it. Like, wow, that's really bold. You need to use your name says that's just stuff that would have been invented by others anyway. But it's like, by that, by that logic, why invent anything ever? Because someone's going to invent it at some point. Someone else will do it. Why don't we just wait? Yeah. Do you need your computer? Like, it doesn't matter if someone invented it, you know, decades ago, you could just waited for someone else to do it. By the way, NASA advancements have helped computer stuff a lot. Anyways, yeah, it's just, I think the, the impacts of this are a lot more wide reaching than people immediately realize. Well, that's because, I mean, we've talked about this on the show before, regardless of the political leanings. There is a serious problem with short administration terms incentivizing extremely short term actions and short term thinking. And it's, it's, it's, it's a real problem because a lot of the time, what is done is not really felt by the general consumer until much, much, much later. And when you, when you go at sort of, you know, scientific cradles of innovation like NASA, you might not feel it for never mind like four years or eight years, right? Which would be your, your one or two term presidency, right? You might not feel that for 25 years, like trying to think off the top of my head of like an older NASA innovation that there was, man, there was something that was in the news recently that was like, yeah, they were, they were looking at this. It was, I don't know if it was NASA, if it was one of the other big like national Labs, but they were looking at this like, like years and years and years ago, decades ago. And like finally we were like, oh, whoa, here's an application of this. I'm sorry, I can't remember it off the top of my head, but there, there have been examples where it's not necessarily clear what the commercial application of this will be. But the work that's being done is still extremely important. What are we looking at here? Things that wouldn't have been possible without space travel. Oh yeah, cool. Camera phones, scratch resistant lenses, CAT scans, LEDs, landmine removal, athletic shoes, foil blankets, water purification system, dust busters, ear thermometers, home insulation, the jaws of life, wireless headphones, memory foam, freeze dried food, adjustable smoke detectors, baby formula, artificial limbs, computer mouse, portable computers. I don't know if computer mice or portable computers are, are important to you guys at all. I don't know who got that list. It's not conclusive. That was on some random site that somebody in full plane shared. Don't forget the movie Apollo 13 starring Tom Hanks, never would have gotten that without space travel. Good stuff. Good stuff. Important stuff. But yeah, like the, the reason why I'm so into NASA isn't, isn't just because like space stuff cool. Space stuff is cool. Super cool. Space stuff cool is objectively based. But that was NASA's website. It didn't look like it to me. NASA has a fair bit of credibility. If it was NASA's website, I don't mind it. It was. Yeah. What does it say at the top of the picture? One sec. Oh, whatever. I read something wrong, my bad. That was absolutely NASA's website. It's not conclusive though. So I don't, I don't know what's going on there. But anyways, it's, it's cause in a way it represents like human advancement. Like it's not just space travel. A lot of it is science. A lot of it is with the one small step for mankind. Yeah. That one giant. It's not, it's not just rocket cool, rocket go fast, space neat. It's like, this is how we like grow. There's that whole thing of like every scientific discovery is this like tiny microscopic pimple on the circle of knowledge that humans have. And it's like, yeah, but when you do that a lot, the circle grow bigger. This was a big part of circle grow bigger. Like it's, I don't know. It's rough. I don't think this is bad for the world. It's also inspirational. Yeah. Absolutely. Hugely so. Apparently not anymore. I mean, remember when we were kids, kids wanted to be, what was it, doctors, lawyers, astronauts, firefighters, and heads of state. And now it's a TikToker. Yeah. Now they want to be you. Be me is not that great. A little bit less so him. Yeah. Cause they want to be bigger on the short form media. Yeah, that's fair. Yeah. And they probably don't want to be older. And then they start figuring out the money stuff and then they want to get on YouTube. Yeah. It's when they're a little older, they want to get on YouTube. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't like that word. I prefer mature. Nice. That's me, blunt mature. Last week, user David the runner posted on our subreddit their custom 3D holographic display, which has been added to their graduation cap. It reads, I survived with solid works, Microsoft suite, open AI and LTT. Hey, congrats on making it through university, but this does spark an interesting conversation about AI use in schools. David left a comment on the post talking about using AI to assist with some learning and to help with assisting in written works. I do want to just, can I screen share? Yep. Super cool. That's awesome. Yeah. Super cool graduation cap. Absolutely chatted. Love it. What else we got? What else we got this week that we're supposed to be talking about? Ah, yes. Giant, whoa, what's going on? Giant layoff bomb hits video games. After creative director Dan Rickert left giant bomb, its parent company, fandom hit the pause button on its subsidiaries production to perform a strategic reset and realignment of their media brands. This comes two years after much of the giant bomb core left the gaming outlet. Polygon has been hit with over 20 layoffs after being sold to Vox by Vox to Valnet, owner of 27 plus click farm publications. Valnet has been mired in controversy, including a lawsuit directed at competitor the rap for 64 and a half million in damages due to libel from their article about Valnet owner Hassan Youssef's ties to porn and accusation of sweatshop like working conditions. That's all alleged, alleged. OG, the rap article seems pretty legit. And I think the lawsuit is a Hail Mary defense. This is from our writer. I don't know what OG means is do we have a writer whose initials are OG? Not that I can think of. Anyway, allegedly, allegedly. Original gangster. Yeah, but thanks. Thanks for that, Dan. Original gangster, the rap article seems pretty legit. Yeah, okay. Guys, it's fine. EA has laid off between 300 and 400 employees this week, with a hundred of them coming from Premiere Studio Respawn, which has resulted in two game cancellations, including sorry, Luke, a new Titanfall based extraction shooter. This was so depressing here. Narrative designer Heather Woodward was one of the people let go just 24 hours after the reveal of the first character that she wrote for Apex. And hold on, where's this, where's this link that I, man, where's the link I sent in the chat? If I, okay, if I send a link in the chat, it kind of means that I want to talk about the stuff it says in the chat and, oh man, how to get fired from video games industry. This is hilarious. Make a successful game. Well, no, it's got a whole, it's got a whole bunch of examples. Who, oh man, Apex lay off. Hold on, hold on, where is it? Dang it. Dang it, I can't find it. Is it from PC Gamer? Yeah, this is it. This is it from PC Gamer. They've actually got a pretty, I don't want to call it funny because this is really terrible news, but they've got a humorous, a humorous take on the situation. Let's look at all the reasons why you might get laid off while working on a game, shall we? Your game doesn't do well. Okay, sure. Your game is called a success by Microsoft. Microsoft lays you off. You help make a game as successful as Marvel Rivals. You are then laid off. Your studio gets acquired for over $60 billion. You are then laid off. You endure executive pressure that forces you into making games your studio isn't good at making. It doesn't go well. You are then laid off. I guess that was monolith, I assume. I'm assuming, yeah, I don't know. Oh, no, this is arcane. Doesn't make sense. Okay. Someone decides your portfolio needs to be aligned, reorganized, restructured, become more flexible, agile, versatile under economic industry conditions. Meanwhile, your CEO might have spent $2 million on vintage cars. You are then laid off. Now we can add, you dared to work on a video game to that list, I guess. This is, I don't understand the, I'm not understanding the logic here. Can you help me understand the logic? Can any of you help me understand the logic? Are any of you video game executives? Well, I think, okay, this is not, as I know they do in the video game industry. They could be. You don't know that they aren't. I think there's been a strong correlation since like 2023 of shrink company stock go up. Well, I think that's well before 2023, sir. Is it? Maybe more specific to the game industry, which admittedly probably had gotten a little bit overambitious because of the COVID boom, but I mean, shrink company stock go up has been a thing. Yeah, but there was a lot of drive, like especially in 2020, but also before 2020, before COVID stuff, for gaming and tech companies to massively inflate their staff. For gaming and tech companies, yes, but I'd say more generally, you know, especially if a company is, you know, falling slightly short of analysts for projections. So shrink it. Yeah, that's been a thing for a long time. Shrink and stock go up has been a thing for a long time. I don't think we've seen it in gaming and tech for a long time. And then in COVID eras, they cranked the inflate the staff numbers harder than ever before. And then coming out of it, they're like, oh, wait, there's this way to pump the stock? Where you just fire a ton of people? Okay, there's a few things, a few things in Floatplane Chat. This is a very passionate topic for them. Jack Welch, former GE CEO, apparently started the fire people to make stock go up trend. That was a long time ago. But we already kind of, we're all caught up on that. Alana Pierce apparently has a really good video about these layoffs. So you guys are apparently going to want to go check that out. Source, FSP9. But there was actually another one that I wanted to look at here. And this is from Screenies in the Floatplane Chat. CEOs of these companies need to stop selling their studios to giant corporations. But here's the thing. It's not quite that simple. And when we toured Monolith, it was actually shortly after their acquisition and talking to folks there, the decision kind of made a lot of sense. Monolith was, I would say, like more of a double A developer. Do you say that's a fair assessment? I wouldn't call a game like fear triple A. Yeah. Like it was on a relatively, relatively small budget. What's the definition again? Triple A games. Big budget, essentially. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Did you guys think that's a fair characterization? I think so. I think so. I would say so for sure. So I would say, you know, Monolith is like a double A, a double A game maker. And even at that time, this was, this was years ago, right? Even at that time, they were looking at the trend in the gaming industry that of, of development costs going essentially parabolic and, and the returns going parabolic as well, but only for a small handful of successful titles. So basically what you were locked in was this endless cycle of like bet the entire farm, work, work, work, work, work, grind, grind, grind, grind, crunch, crunch, crunch until you finally get to release hope that you have absolutely nailed it. Right. Cause you bet everything. So you're, you're swinging for the fences. You hope you nailed it. You get this enormous windfall of cash that's even bigger than last time. Everybody has a party. Realistically, a lot of people still lose their jobs, like QA staff are not really needed toward the beginning of game development where it's more about ideation and laying of, you know, groundwork or whatever else. And then you, and then you rinse and repeat because the expectation from the customer is bigger and bigger and bigger. I mean, why do you think it's taking Rockstar so bloody long to make Grand Theft Auto 6, which just got delayed? Ogrisaurus and full plane chassis. Then you made Starfield. Well, that's exactly it. And so, so to answer your question, but why do this? Why do they sell out? They sell out because that's exhausting. And it's terrifying to go all in. I can tell you guys as a business owner who has gone all in multiple times. Imagine, imagine you just make one product every like five years. And if that product's not a banger, like, ouch. And even if it is a banger, how many underappreciated, how many copies of Freelancer sold? I want to know. I want to know how many copies of Freelancer sold. Okay. The video game Freelancer is reported to have sold approximately 20,000 copies in the UK during the first half of 2003. While exact total sales figures are not readily available, there were hopes that the game would sell at least 500,000 copies. And I can, I can tell you that if it did 20,000 in the UK, it sure as hell didn't do 500,000 copies worldwide. It was an awesome game. Awesome. So good. That doesn't mean it's successful. Yeah, yeah, people are bringing up Titanfall. Just because a game is great doesn't mean that it's going to sell. So you could do everything right. And you could still get f***ed. And like, Titanfall was largely, a lot of people's opinion on that was that they were the release window. Prey. Yeah, Prey. Marketing and stuff. Prey was a super cool game. Total commercial flop. I mean, as far as I could tell, they probably gave away more copies with GPUs than they actually sold. So that's the thing, right? So why do they sell out Luke? Well, because they're terrified because that's their, that's their opportunity to realistically to cash, to cash in on all the work that they did leading up until that moment. Like, yeah, they got paid their salary or whatever else. But if they're, if the expect, if they're sitting there in that moment, they just launched a huge game and they get a big offer that values their company at something akin to the revenue that they're making right now on this huge game launch, put yourself in their shoes and tell me that you have the, you have the personal integrity or you have the personal code that would, that would make you turn away tens of millions of dollars versus fear for your livelihood daily. I can, I can tell you, I can tell you a lot of people are not going to answer this truthfully. I know. They might think they are. And I still about you. It's not true. It is. I can tell you from experience, it is really difficult to say no to tens of millions of dollars. Super hard. Doesn't regret it. Super hard. Kind of based. Super hard though. Not easy decision. And you know what? I got, I got to tell you, I got to tell you that I had, I had a, no, I had a big advantage there. Huge advantage because when my offer came, we weren't starving. I already, I had literally just purchased my dream home. Yeah. Right? Like, like I, we were, we were in a sustainable space, right? Like we never took startup capital. We weren't like spending someone else's money and trying to figure out returns and then taking the windfall and having to reinvest it, maybe even go into debt towards the end of it to get this thing over the line, take on investment. We weren't playing any of those games. I was running a profitable month to month, year to year, even day to day. I was running a profitable company and you know, realistically, another 10 million dollars wouldn't have changed my daily life, but just wouldn't have really made a difference. And yeah, that is, that is an extremely privileged position. And I recognize that that is realistically a huge part of why I was able to make the decision I was able to make. But when making payroll every week is like absolutely freaking terrifying, I can understand. I can understand. I would not do it. I can understand someone doing it. And I really don't believe that a lot of people that would be like, I wouldn't do it. I don't believe that most of them wouldn't do it. Me neither. I've been in related scenarios, so I can kind of trust my own answer, I think. But yeah, I don't know. Yeah. So our, our worksmen in Floatplane chat put it really well. I came to my decision from a position of power, not a position of fear. If I had been in a position of fear, it would have been totally different. I had a little bit of fear, which was a big part of why I even started the conversation in the first place. To be clear, when I say started, I mean, was receptive to the conversation. I didn't reach out. And that fear was an interesting conversation. Sometimes you want to have those conversations, even with zero intent. I like knowing what my stuff's worth. Yes. It's like getting your coin collection assayed. I want to know what my company is. It's an interesting conversation. Yeah. So, so we, we hadn't launched backpack yet. So I had some fear that we had made an enormous bet that wasn't going to pay off. But, but as I talked about prior to the backpack launch, which was a big part of the whole trust me bro controversy, we even were approaching that large bet from a position of strength. If I had to refund every single one of those backpacks, I could afford it. I knew that. Right. I wasn't in the position of like a game company of someone on it, like in a game, in, in a leadership position at a game company where they literally wouldn't know where their next meal was coming from if their next game flopped. And this isn't always true. No. There are companies that have, that are much more financially stable, that still sell out. There, there's, there's all these different scenarios, right? Like it's, but I think the one that Linus is describing is a pretty common one for probably the majority of studios that aren't just making like incredible bank all the time. Not everybody's Larry. If they have an as a service game or whatever else, or they're just like printing money with like, you know, a dozen active mobile games that are, you know, gotcha AF, like, sure, there's, there's definitely examples. They already did the, the selling out basically at that point. They're just sold out to themselves, I guess. So I guess I'm talking more about your traditional game studio. Your traditional medium level successful, medium to low level success. I'm speaking from my experience doing the tour at Monolith, basically speaking to people who literally just went through this acquisition and more recently have now been shuttered because they were pushed to make a game that wasn't really aligned with their experience. Uh, or no, no, that one was, uh, it was the Wonder Woman IP one. Sorry, that was actually a slightly different situation. I mean, pay, pay 90 brings up a good point. I mean, technically even Larry is kind of got some, some misleading. Yeah. The way it was originally typed is a misleading statement, but they, they, they had to go, they had to go sniffing around for money. And if anything, I think that kind of adds strength to the point that I'm trying to make where it is a, it is a ruthless, ruthless cutthroat business. It's tough. One of the most. And if, if someone, if someone succeeds in that business and gets an opportunity to get theirs and they take it, we cannot agree. We cannot like it. I can understand. But I think that there are very few people and you might be one of them. I believe you are probably one of them. You might be one of them. Who would say no, who would walk away from it and who would swing for the fences again and again and again and would never get tired of it. But I do believe that most people would just say, well, I mean, I got to eat. My kids got to go to school, you know, especially when you have dependence. Yeah. My wife's got to drive a nice car. My family, my family member has whatever problem that I could solve with this. Just imagine. Yeah. I mean, look at, look at what people, look at what people will do for, you know, the payouts on something like Beast Games, right? Or just, I mean, just Mr. Beast's videos in general. Look, look at further than that, right? Like I'm in a fairly privileged position that no one in my life is in one of those scenarios, right? So like, like, if my mom was like, not going to make it unless I had a ton of money to ship her off to some country to pay for some really expensive operation and somebody was like, you could do this thing. Yeah, you do. Yeah. No question. So like there are lines. Everyone has lines. In my current scenario, I can resist because I'm fine and I'll be fine. And I enjoy swinging for the fences and I like it when it's hard. So pause. But you know, things could change that would sway me for sure. All right. What are we supposed to be talking about? Who knows? Oh yeah, the giant layoff bomb. Yeah. DOJ antitrust plan could kill Google search. Testifying during the remedies phase of Google's search antitrust trial on Wednesday, Google CEO Sunder Pichai claimed the US government's plan to rectify Google's search monopoly might make it hard to justify continuing to build a search engine at all. The government has proposed that Google be required to share much of its search data and search index with competitors for a marginal cost. Pichai said that this would be a disaster that would allow anyone to completely reverse engineer end to end any part of our technology stack. Pichai's testimony also touched on the government's proposal to force Google to sell Chrome. Several companies have expressed an interest, but Pichai argued there's no other company that could match Google's care for the browser. Google spent tens of billions of dollars on Chrome in the past decade and is responsible for more than 90% of the code commits to the open source Chromium project, which makes up the core of Chrome and several of the browsers. This comes as Google's share of global online search traffic has dipped below 90% for the first time in a decade and has dropped below 80% in the desktop PC segment. I mean, isn't Google basically like not going to bother making their traditional search engine anymore anyway? Isn't that kind of the direction that we're going? Feels like it. I think we're just we're just going AI at this point. In other Google news, Google has killed smart features for their first and second gen Nest thermostats. They will be killed effective October 25, 2025. Okay, so hear me out. Actually not hear me out. I want to hear your take on this. The first gen Nest learning thermostat came out 14 years ago. You can still use it as a normal thermostat. What are the what features? Well, the like learning and I guess the app control, right? I think there's a difference between killing and no longer supporting. Is it being killed or are they no longer supporting? It is effectively being killed. You can. Yeah, you can't use the mobile app for control anymore. Scheduling is why like this is a huge part of the reason why I put a strong preference on if I'm buying something. I mean, this happened with was it the like floor cleaning robot for smash dance or something? You were like, what happens? Like, can I can I main to? I don't remember the exact. Can I still use it if the internet goes out or whatever and you're they were like, and your reason was because you guys might not exist and they're like, of course will exist. This is my whole point. If if the smart learning stuff, I paid more for up front sticker price because the hardware in order to do that is in the device and it happens locally. I am personally much more willing to buy. I don't think that's universally true. People look at the sticker price dude entirely based off that. So they want the cheaper device where it happens remotely. But this is why, right? I think I'm still mad. I don't think I care that it's 14 years ago because I didn't necessarily buy it on launch day. So that that timeline is honestly probably shorter and like I'm not saying I'm not mad because this thing is sold with these features and it does it never said, hey, we'll turn them off in 14 years. Yeah. And if you bought it seven years ago, it didn't say, hey, we're going to turn it off in seven years. When I saw 14 years, it still works WTF. They're killing specific features. They're not saying that it's not working at all. Yeah. Like when I saw 14 years, I was like, I don't know. Do you really expect something to last 14 years? And I was like, yeah, I do a thermostat. Yes. I expect a thermostat to last as long as my house pretty much. Yeah. Like what are what are we even talking about here? Yeah. Like this is not a, you know, this is not a smoke detector, you know, change it every five years or 10 years or whatever. This is a freaking thermostat. Does I don't have one? Is there the app control was the selling point? Yeah, he knows. That's what he's saying. Why are you talking about, man? That's what he said. No, it's the same guy. He said it still works WTF. They said the app control was the selling point. What? What are you talking about? What are you talking about? Because my point with like, if there's things on it that happened locally, it becomes a dumb thermostat now. So there's no learning anymore. And the easy thing to do if this, if, if a lot more of the stuff happened locally, which maybe it does, maybe it doesn't, I don't know. I don't know this product very well, but the easy thing to do would just make it so that people could control it with like home assistant or something. Yeah, but that's not that easy. You can't ask people to set up, flip in home assistant. But it would be much cooler on the company if they allowed people to. I don't know that it doesn't to be clear. Pyrophone. He says you can use home. You can, but you can't expect a normie to do that. This is the problem with the cloud. This is the problem with anything that's in the cloud. They are disabling home assistant access. What? Are they actually? Okay, this is worse than I thought. I don't know if that's true or not. The whole thing should just be immediately open source if they're, if they're killing it, if it's a smart device, if it has a processor on it, then I mean, that's the right thing to do. They should just say, okay, well, here you go then. Yes, it works locally, but won't work with hardware assistant. So it's just losing app control. Even the app control thing is weird though, because like, like we said earlier, right? You buy a product on a list of features. Like I think something needs to change legally and I don't know what it is. But you, you shouldn't be able to sell a product and then as a company, take features away from that product, right? Like that doesn't seem right. Man, this is tough. So is there, is there, is there like a legal period of time? Insomniac points out that the hardware can't do modern cryptographic ciphers, which could legitimately be a good reason to EOL it. They are offering a discount. That's an interesting one. On a new thermostat for a fourth gen nest learning thermostat. They will give you, it looks like $130 off, bring it down to 150 bucks. But boy, is that ever a lot of money to rebuy a thing that I thought I was buying. But yeah, I don't know. I don't think it's okay. Aki says it's not fair to ask them to give that IP up. We're not asking them to give it up. We're asking them to support it. And then failing that. Well, I guess they better give it up. They're making a choice though. Also, if it's 14 year old software for a thermostat, it's probably fine to give that up. Cato Esco is fairly sure Home Assistant went through the cloud. Yeah. So some Home Assistant integrations are through the cloud, which is why I insisted on finding thermostats that didn't. So my ecobies do not. Yeah, makes sense. They are controllable locally by Home Assistant, which means that if my internet's down, I can still adjust my in-floor heat. That's exactly how I would want to do that purchasing decision for sure. But yeah, I don't know. I think they need to figure something out. Because this is happening with lots of different products where they're just being like, no, we're not going to support it anymore. And 14 years is a long time, but it's still them going. Well, we're not going to support this anymore for a device that traditionally, people expect these things to last forever, right? Yeah, I expect a thermostat to just be, if I bolt it to my house, functionally, I expect it to be part of my house. And I guess the line would be if it's something that is expected to be included when I sell the house. You get what I mean? Yeah. So, you know. Most people aren't going to rip their nest off the wall. Or their dishwasher out. That to me is the line, right? So if it becomes part of my house, I expect it to last like my house. I mean, it's not like the thermostats that we had in my house when I was a kid. Just like, you know, oh yeah, the mercury in the little tube went bad. So we throw it in. What are you even talking about? No, it's a thermostat. Part of the house. You just, you need to be able to control the heat and the cold. I mean, I think I have to assume. Yeah. Like it's like light switches. What am I going to change all my light switches? Because there's like a cryptographic compatibility. Practically all mine because they're breaking because our apartment building sucks. But anyways. Raiden 428 says, do you expect a smart watch to last as long as a regular watch is a shorter lifespan, a trade-off for the features? For a watch though. There's a difference between the device dying and the device being killed by a company. Because like I could still use a pebble smart watch if I was willing to use a black and white display. You know, and I'm willing to, you know, fight with the rebel app or whatever. Also that went open source. That's a great example of Google actually open sourcing something that they took over and killed. So that is how it's supposed to work. Funny we should be talking about smart watches, but. Yeah, like honestly, I think when people are looking at a traditional watch versus a smart watch, I think they are, it is very easy to do the calculus of figuring out, hey, this thing might not last as long as this mechanical device that, in a lot of cases, can last practically forever. It's not necessarily easy to be like, I'm going to make a random guess on how long this company is going to support this thing. I also think there's a sort of a sort of a sort of implied support period too, right? Like when I, when I buy a smartphone accessory, I think the implication is that it's a, it's kind of a piece of my smartphone. I don't necessarily compare it to a regular watch. And the pitch, the original pitch that the company is making is also hugely important. Like when Google sold the Nest, or I guess when Nest sold the Nest, because I don't think they'd been acquired by Google yet at that point, though you'll have to correct me if I'm wrong on the timeline. When they sold the Nest, they were just selling a thermostat. They were like, it's a thermostat. By the way, it also connects to your phone and smart and it learns. They didn't say like, like to your point earlier that it'll stop working in 14 years. But they did say that it connects to your phone and smart and it learns. But it's sort of phone accessory. Totally. It's a home accessory. Any of those things stop. It's now, it was now in my opinion, falsely advertised. Yeah, because it does still work as a thermostat, but that was never really how they pitched it. They pitched it as a piece of my home that does all this cool stuff in the cloud. Whereas no, to me, the smart watch is an accessory for your phone. Like I, I, and maybe part of that is just like my own mental gymnastics here. Like right, trying to divide a line that was something I intuitively understood or, you know, something that I believe, but not necessarily everyone would agree with, right? Well, man, this is wild dude. Like there, this is just the tip of this spear. Yeah, every, this is becoming more and more of a problem. Every smart device anyone's ever bought is going to be deprecated at some point. And probably not properly in our opinion. Yeah. And then what? It's just, it's e-waste. That's it. Okay. After dark time. Hit me, Dan. Look at that. One button, like an absolute bouse. Seems like a low priority. Do you? Yeah. Make an air table integration. Yeah. Oh, no, don't, you can't say that because you might hear you and then. Yeah. Don't, don't, don't give Conrad ideas. He just does stuff sometimes. No, stop it. And I'm muted. I'm muted. Of course. Fake emails. Fake personas. Fake techie Dan, large Luke and short Linus. Question for you all other than VPN. What protections do you guys do for your privacy? Love the content. Fake emails, fake personas. I have multiple people. Here we go. I, I know they're, they're full names. First, middle, last. I know lots of these random types of details. They have profiles online. They have emails, all this kind of stuff that I can just whip out at any time. They're not real. Made them up mostly when I was like. Between. Tell me you were involved in some shit without telling me you were involved in some shit. So, and I, I mean, I still got them. They can be pulled out at any time. For a long time, I would use the White House as my address for like everything. Nice. Netflix. My, my address was the White House the whole time. I have to imagine some random junk mail was addressed to me and sent to the White House and thrown out at some point. Nice. Pretty cool. That's actually pretty big. I'm relatively certain that happened. Very little. I basically use a VPN exclusively for Linux ISOs. Cause I never know when I'm going to want to like fire up a game and I don't want to have to like remember to turn off my VPN and I could configure it to only, you know, use certain applications through the VPN, but I have not been arsed to do that. So that's where we're at on that. I mean, this is, this is, this is a terrible take, but I have nothing to hide. Well, that is a terrible take. And that's not even what you believe. But I have nothing to hide in a non-oppressive regime and in a, in a societal position of strength. That's still a bad take. It's a terrible, I just told you it's a terrible take. I think your thing is more that everything's already been breached. My privacy ship sailed. Yeah. So long ago that even if I did have stuff to hide, I would have basically no hope of, you know, concealing it from the next. It's like locking the Windows when all your doors are off the hinges. It's like, well, all right. And I'm not saying that anything that I'm doing applies to any of you guys. And there are still some privacy steps that you take. Like what? There are some. Oh yeah, I take some. But you're just not that into it because you're pretty compromised already. And, and realistically, right? Like I really found that, that the amount of interest in my private life and my private life's details declined sharply when I just started publishing it. Like when it was hugely, hugely life changing for me, when we published the address of Linus Media Group on Google Maps. Because all of a sudden, all of the, oh, where's the office? Where are they based? Blah, blah, blah, just went away. Just completely went away. And, you know, there's obviously still steps that we take with respect to physical privacy and security. But, you know, I, I'm not deluded, right? Like I'm obviously aware that I drive a pretty distinctive car. That is a decision that I have made, knowing what the security and privacy implications are. I don't think that I'm a particularly polarizing figure for the most part. You know, it does only take one completely deranged person, I guess, at the end of the day. But like, I don't actually see anybody being like that mad about like a bad review on an Intel CPU or whatever. I just don't really. I feel like it was worse back in the day. Yeah. Like back in the. Like cheese melts best or whatever. Like I don't, I don't see anybody actually being like that angry about anything that we talk about. That I could see people being really, very angry about. But like, I, I got more like, I can't even remember the last one at this point. But I, I got them relatively frequently back in the house. I would get like death threats and stuff. Remember somebody sent me like a long essay on how they, with details of how they wanted to murder me because of a review I did on something back in the day. Nice. And I was like as nuts. I sound like a cool person. Yeah. I was like, uh, probably not gonna happen. Probably lots of women. Probably pillows. I mean, well, yeah, I didn't say they were real. Yeah, I don't know. I just kind of wrote. Trig says, just don't talk about bowing. Yeah, don't review. Don't review a plane. Well, a bowing plane. I guess. Yeah, not a bowing plane. What about like a Dassault plane? Just curious. I'm just, it's a random manufacturer. Pull it out of thin air. Yeah, sounds probably fine. Probably not big enough, not murderous enough. Right. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm just checking. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Hey, Dan Land and the man, here is my interest. Like hypothetically a Falcon 50. Just hypothetically. Reviewing that. Yeah. Like if we made a video on that. I think that'd be pretty cool, actually. I'm just curious. I don't think the company would try to murder you. I think it would be an interesting challenge from an artistic perspective to have you try to review something that is so traditionally outside of your wheelhouse. Yeah, for sure. Your hanger. Yeah. Oh, I like that. There we go. It's a weird thing to call it, but sure. Sorry, go ahead. No, that's fine. Hey, Dan Land and the man, here's my interest free loan. How does full plane differ from other creator run content platforms? How is it better or worse than them? Can you guess who the man is? Luke? What? Sure. Let's go with Luke. Sorry, what was the thing? Dan Land and the man. They wanted us to guess who the man is because Land could be either of us. I don't know. Oh, man. Oh, I saw you were ready for that one. Dude, that was so good. That was crazy. Oh, that was nuts. Nailed it. That was actually wild. Oh, man. That was awesome. This is a high note. Are there more merch messages? Because I just want to end this show now. That was awesome. That was pretty good. Wrap it up, everyone. Oh, that was great. No, no, no. Sorry, we got a few more. We got a few more. We got a few more. Wow. Yeah. So how does Floatplane differ from other creator-run content platforms? I wouldn't say that functionally, it's that different, right? Like, it's a way to safeguard our income streams. You guys saw, Floatplane makes up, I think it's 7% of our total income. We're actually over 40,000 subscribers on Floatplane right now. So thank you guys so much for your incredible support. It's a way of engaging more closely with our most committed community members. So it's awesome that way. You get extraism behind the scenes, a little bit of early access sprinkled in here and there, secret shoppers doing early access this time around on Floatplane. So they all kind of, I would say, function the same way. But what I'd say is really cool about Floatplane. Similar way. Yeah, yeah, similar way. I think the main dividing line between the platforms is the subscription model. Sure. Yeah, whether it's a subscription, like in all you can eat for multiple creators, or whether it's in-house for only one single creator, like we saw at Rooster Teeth, or whether it's kind of, I'd say we're like kind of a hybrid, where I'd say the closest thing we are to is something like a Patreon, where you can sign up as a creator and then your money that you get from your subscribers is your money, except the difference is that our fees are structured around being really heavily focused on video content delivery. There's also percentages and ours are flat rates. Like there's little differences in the subscription model, but the overall flow of come to platform, pay money, receive content. Pretty similar and not compete with YouTube. Yeah, yeah. It's something that they all have in common. But I would say the thing that sets us apart the most is our team. I think our team's super cool. I think our team's incredibly talented. I'm not saying any of the other teams aren't cool or talented. I'm sure they're very cool and very talented. But we like ours. But we really are super into ours. And I think it's really incredible what they've done on the technology side. I think from the outside, a lot of our stuff looks kind of basic sometimes. And we kind of honestly suck at some of the more business-y sides of things. The fact that we still don't have a trial, sort of embarrassing, we know that. There's a few things like that. There's a few things like that. But in terms of the player tech, it's really good. In terms of the CDN, I don't even want to call it platform. Because it's more of like, how would I even describe it? Like the CDN web that exists to serve the video on the back end is like a combination of off-the-shelf and custom and both. So a couple of things. One, the player tech was mostly really fantastic a while ago. I think we peaked in, I'm not very good with dates. I'm going to guess like 2018 with the color thing. That's pretty cool. That was pretty wild. We were legitimately the only ones able to serve full color on Chrome. And I think it was Firefox at the time. Non-edge browsers. Yeah, it was weird. There was a situation where Netflix was advertising people watching Netflix in edge. But that was not a thing that Microsoft was sponsoring them to do. They were telling people to watch it in edge because it was the only way that you could get full color. Like proper color. Like it wasn't like washed out or it wasn't like shifted. It was really weird. But while they were running those advertisements, we had a player that could play full color in those other browsers, which was really sick. These days, we tend to give better quality video. But there isn't as much special differentiating sauce in the player. I'm just being honest. Yeah. And then what was the other thing that you said? There was the player. Public CDN site. Oh yeah, CDN site. So we made this thing called float CDN back in the day, where it was a multi CDN solution. So we could automatically kind of like switch between which one was the cheapest. The due to bargaining and whatnot. These days, it's like for VOD, it's like pretty much just Cloudflare. But we still have the tool. It just doesn't. And if our deal with Cloudflare changed. We can turn it on. Pray I don't alter it any further, you know. Yeah. Then we have that. Yeah. Which is pretty cool because we were operating extremely bootstrap. And so just, I don't know, let's just hire someone who knows AWS and implement that. That was not an option. We needed to generate revenue month to month. I mean, it was an option if we just wanted to lose more money. No, well, I mean, it wasn't under the marching orders that you gave us at the time, which is still the marching orders that we have, which is that it needs to be resilient. One of your biggest things was like, it needs to continue to exist. Because at that point in time, the biggest problem with these platforms is they pop up for a year, maybe a year and a half, maybe two years and then die. And they would just disappear. And it was really frustrating for creators because you bring your audience to this thing. Yeah. And then it's just gone. And I actually forgot, one of the other major pillars was no fang should be able to just arbitrarily decide that you don't exist anymore. And that's a huge part of the way that Floatplane is architected. No fang company, and I guess fang's like the old one, Marvelous 7 or whatever it is. No one entity can just be like, yeah, no. And there's stuff where like OVH, for example, if OVH just pulled the plug, it would hurt, we're not gone. We might be gone temporarily. Have you ever publicly acknowledged like how much of our hosting is in OVH? A lot of it is. It's not all. Okay. I'm just wondering if we've ever publicly acknowledged that. You used to be very squeamish about like talking about where anything was hosted or anything, security through obscurity. I think I have mentioned it since. It's so like, I don't love talking about this stuff, but it is very easy. Like if someone's interested, you can figure that out pretty easily. I'm just checking. I never know where your comfort zone is. Like I actually messaged him earlier today. We had an old video idea. I've been going through our doc and kind of categorizing things. My answer is probably not, but honestly, just because it's less interesting these days. Like that thing with the player. I think you underestimate. It used to be more interesting. Yeah, but we could include some of the history, which I think would be super cool, because it's stuff we've never talked about. And I think it would be a chance to highlight some of the accomplishments of that team, which I think would be super cool. Yeah, it could be pretty cool. See, I know how to tug on his heart straight. I'm like the AI chatbot with the researchers. I've been thoroughly briefed on him. And I know how, I know which strings to pull, but think of highlighting your team and their accomplishments. Luke, I wasn't on board until he said that. And then yeah, now I'm kind of down. But yeah, I know we had an idea to just do like, how does flow? What, what the heck is the plan and how does it actually work? There might be a really good timing for this. Is that what made you think about it? That's part of it. Yeah, that makes sense. Okay. Is that a good enough answer on that? Cool. I forgot what the question was, but probably not. Yeah, it's probably good. Okay, yeah, cool. Let's see. Dan, Dan, Dan, Luke, Newcombe and Linus. Linus, have you ever considered using magnetic starting zippers? No, I've never heard of that. So you, they just like magnet together at the bottom and then you zip it? Man, this really is feeling a little bit like a zipper magnet type. Okay, what am I looking at? YKK America's group, 1.39,000 subscribers. What? Oh, that's sick. What? That's, I'm sorry, what? Am I just being like, old man yells at cloud, like this seems unnecessary. It does seem highly unnecessary. I think it helps people who maybe don't have the dexterity to be able to attach a zipper together. Oh, that makes sense. Very wise if you did. I've never seen one of these. I've never seen that before. That's, that's kind of cool. No, I have never heard of that and never considered it, but I, I guess it's on, it's on my radar now. Thank you. Hi, early.dll might be in still in discussions or I've yet to watch delayed watch, but will the gift cards only be usable in the US store? Thanks and understand the headache. I believe there's an FAQ. Oops, sorry, that's old. I'm gonna split into two. Yeah, here we go. Control F gift. I live outside, want to sing. What will happen to gift cards on LTT Store? If you live in the United States, your existing gift cards will remain usable as, as before. If you live elsewhere in the world, your gift card will be moved to global.lttstore.com. And the amount will be adjusted to reflect the current USD CAD exchange rate. Please note that this migration may take some time to complete. We anticipate that all gift cards should be migrated by May the 9th, 2025. When purchasing gift cards in the future, ensure your gift card matches the region of the purchase of the person you intend to send the gift card to. For example, if you live in the United States, but want to send a gift card to a friend in Canada. Hello, Dennis Tuke and Wanny. I want to replace my router without reconnecting all my devices. How can I do this? I looked on the LTT forum and didn't see anything. Theoretically, you can just change the SSID in the password to the same thing that they were before. In practice, I found it doesn't always work. Good luck. Which would be a good thing. But not a convenient thing. True, but you don't want that to happen. Just being clear. Hey guys, Luke, what is usually breakfast of choice? Chicken breast. Nothing. That's terrible. I tend to skip breakfast. Black coffee. I have coffee too. Black coffee. I drink coffee. I microwaved a corn on the cob this morning. I felt that in my soul. What? Corn is a delicious and nutritious. No, just like the vibe. Just like me. My wife doesn't love me, so I put corn in the microwave. No, I'm kidding. I'm kidding. She does. No, I'm a heathen and I don't like eggs. I wish I did. Actually, no, that wasn't today. But I don't. Today, I had a dentist appointment in the morning and I couldn't eat. But yeah, most breakfast food I'm not into. I love cereal, but cereal is like sugar. Cereal is like a dessert food. Cereal is actual sugar. Starting your day with dessert, maybe not the best strat. Yeah, I haven't finished it yet, but I've read a considerable amount of sugar, salt and fat or salt, sugar, fat, whatever that book. That's basically about how big food in this, like especially in the 90s, basically was like, ah, all of you and put sugar in everything until we all got diabetes. What happens when we subsidize corn and people make corn syrup? What happens now? It's honestly, it's not even that conspiracy theory. They just like discovered the bliss point, essentially, in food engineering. And we're like, oh, so we just put more of this in it and then people will literally start to develop addictive behaviors around our food. It's wild. What stuff, like when you read labels and things like beef jerky, why does beef jerky have sugar in it? Yeah, because it's delicious. I assumed it would be salt and beef. Dude, they literally hooked up like brainwave monitoring crap on kids and then gave them dozens of formulations of Oreos and then saw which one lit up the pleasure centers the most. And then we're like, that one. That makes sense. Oh, yeah. Me plus sugar is good though. Literally though. Damn, dude. We have salt way too much sugar. Yep. All right. Hi, LDL. Love the show. Been watching for years. Professional curiosity here, but do you know what data visualization software you use at LTT? Nope. Data visualization software? I wasn't sure if they were talking about graphs or anything else. Because wow, we use a bunch to be honest. Grafana is the first one that jumps to mind. Cool. Because we use it in multiple parts of the company. High charts is, is it high charts? I'm pretty sure it's high charts. It's one that we use for the Labs website. If you can't remember, maybe using it too much. Using it too much. Yeah. That's why you can't remember. Yeah. High charts. Oh, damn, man. You have to get it first. Delay and got a vacation. Come on. And there's, there's a bunch of other ones. Cabana, I, that name rings too much of a bell. I'm sure that's somewhere. There's so many. There's so many. I mean, if you go on the infrastructure side, there's like a trillion. Because like this one or that one's better at this thing or that thing and whatever else. I don't know. We even make our own sometimes. Tooljet. We got that going on. Could you count air table? Probably. Yeah, I think so. Yeah. That's just got a chart in it. Oh yeah. Yeah. We have data. Cryons. Count Google Sheets. Freaking everything. Man. Yeah. Like my goodness. I don't know. D3JS and ChartJS sometimes. Google Sheets charts. Yeah. Conrad threw those in. Yeah. Man. There's like, I don't know. Name it. We probably use it somewhere. Aloha DLL. I remember a while ago mentioning a video about a steam deck as a daily desktop computer. Did that ever release? I don't think we ever like committed to daily driving it. But we did do this one where we compared it to a PC for about the same price from like a performance and general usage standpoint. So that was pretty cool. So you could kind of check that out. So if you get your beard back. Oh yeah. I've made progress, Dan. And grow your hair a little bit. I am going to complete my bike before Luke finishes Final Fantasy 6. That's very exciting. I am. I will. Check this out. I have real. I've progressed. Have you. I didn't tell you when you told me about your bike thing because I didn't know if you're going to mention it on Wansha or not. But I have progressed. I progressed before you sent me the bike stuff. Uh-oh. Okay. It's still on. It's on. Oh, that's the wrong person whose name starts with a D. Hold on one second. And I'm going on a trip soon with a lot of long flights. Are they hard? Are they long and hard? They've got it. Technically the plane, it has some girth to it. And it is a tube. Can't even get both your hands around it. No. It's just factually correct. But who makes it? Is it DeSalle? Uh-oh. I'm just curious. It's hypothetical. Probably not in this case. Probably not. Yeah, probably not. Probably very likely Boeing. Uh-oh. Oh, I'm sorry to hear that. You should get one that's straight. Sure. Sure. This is a stretch there, bud. Whoa, that looks nice. It was determined that if you deal with stocks while you're on a plane that is actively crashing, it's not insider trading. Really? Yes. So if you're like on a Boeing and the door flies off and your plane's going to crash. You should sell. You could whip the laptop out. Short Boeing. And buy shorts. Okay. Only if the end's like, why if I works? Oh, I did it wrong. Go, go. They're a bike. Okay. So what we're looking at here is every piece of the bike at a minimum primed. Are you, do you need multiple coats of priming? Because they look like they're in different states. So the primer is gray. Okay. So what we're looking at right now is everything completed priming. Okay. So that's like a DTM direct to metal, metal primer. And then, Dan, what are you doing, bud? Well, now you can talk about it and then you can see it. Keep moving it. Yeah, no, no, no, no. Keep it, keep it big. Keep it big. Okay, all right, fine. Okay, some of the pieces are fully coated in white. I need white in order to get a vibrant pink. I discovered this when I was doing the many experiments that I've done over the last couple of years. So I need a nice, even vibrant white in order to get a nice, even vibrant pink, which is what I'm going for. So there's a couple of pieces in between the two wheels that are done, done in the white. However, a lot of my white stuff that I have coated either had like issues with the coating because I had not really gotten good with the white paint yet, or has been damaged because I didn't actually have my setup such that I could hang every single piece at once before. And that caused a ton of problems for me, like just a ton of rework and resending and recoding and then doing it again. So I finally just put another rack in there so I can actually hang every single piece of it all at the same time now. So some of them, so you can see on the front fairing there on the far left, top left, there's like some blasted bits of primer over top of the white. That's areas where the white was damaged or the coverage wasn't very good and I need to hit it again. The close left portion, is that shadow? No. So that's primer spray there. Yeah, that's a quick spray of primer over a spot that was down to the bare plastic on that one. I could tell in some other spots, but there I wasn't sure. And then I am going to be, so the next stage is I'm going to be doing like a quick touch up blast of white on some of the ones that just were spot primed. Then I'm going to be doing a full coat of white on any of the ones that are gray. So those are mostly the one center frame and at the bottom left rack. Then I will do a full finish, a second coat of white on all the ones that just were like spot primed or spot whited. And then I will do a second coat of white on the ones that just got their first coat of white. And that'll be like probably a three hour session, three and a half hour session. And then everything will be white. Are you still committed to growing the beard back out once you're done? That'll be up to you, Vaughn, just like it always is. Sure, fair enough. So after white, hold on, bring the picture back. Bring the picture back. So after white, the next thing that I need to do is spray the wheels, pink, specifically the wheels, both sides. Then I need to mask, you can actually... Oh, I don't know if you can see it on the picture. That picture is there to be my inspiration in the top middle. Okay, yeah, yeah. Get a zoom. Zoom, zoom, zoom. Is this going to work? Okay, you can't really see it. But I want each of the wheels to have a pink stripe around it. So what I'm going to do is I'm going to paint them pink, but like minimally, I'm only going to be focused on the area where like the stripe is as long as I can get a nice even coat. Then I tape that off and paint the whole wheel black. Then I clear coat. That's going to look sick. It's going to look awesome. That's going to look so good. That's going to look great. Let's hope. I thought you were going to say green and I was like, what? Get it? Gross. No, no, it's going to be pink and black. Yeah. And it's like a super cool pink. That's sweet. It has like an effect crap that they add to it. I mean, it's so long since I did it. The pearlescent flaking rim. Yeah, like a flaking or pearlescent thing. Pearl, it's a pearl. It's like a purple pearl. So in the light, it'll kind of catch it and turn kind of blue-purple. Cool. That'll be sweet. Yeah, I'm pretty excited. Worth the no beard. And then honestly, I think that it's going to be a very imperfect job. But I think I just accept that now. Like what I've discovered is that I picked basically hard mode by doing a, so what is this? So prime, prime, white, white, maybe third coat white, depending on my coverage, two coats pink, two coats effect layer, and then two to three coats of clear coat. So this is anywhere from an 11 to 12 layer process on parts that have extremely irregular shapes. It's basically like a nightmare paint job, which I didn't fully understand. To go back and do it again. I definitely would have just done a solid color with no pearl and no nothing, but at this point I'm unlocked. So I think that it probably won't look that good if you look closely, but as long as it's like, realistically, if I'm riding safely, nobody should be within about 10 feet of my bike anyway. So that's 10 foot job. Is that all I got? Pause. Okay. I mean, no, that's all. Oh my, that just made it so much worse. So much worse. I don't even know what's coming. Don't. Oh my god. Stop the show. Show is, show is. Oh my god. What's in your bag? Come on, pull it out. Come on. No, it's, oh, yeah, it's because I was grabbing something from the bag. Yeah, he was. Is that what you call it? Bag of tricks. So you need all your cash for it, right? He doesn't know. I know he knows. That's why he kept it going for so long. I have no idea what you're talking about. Wait, really? I don't. Yeah, I also don't. That's his lying, his lying. No, it's really not. I actually have no idea what you're talking about. I don't believe him. Well, you mean, although like, do I know about that? I'm in you endowing? Yes. Oh yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I have no idea. I was, no, I wasn't lying. I was saying I had no idea what's in your bag. I don't know. No, that's just, I want you to look at one more thing after the show on my laptop. That's completely unrelated. Oh, what? Like after the show? Yeah. Wait, you're stalling the end of the show You're stalling the end of the show. No, I thought you were saying that. I thought you told them they have one more thing. No, no, no, no. Bear with me on this one. You said pause. You said pause. No, I said pause because he said foot job. Foot job? Yeah. Did I say foot job? Ten foot job. Oh, come on. That wasn't even intentional. What are you even talking about? So basically you just gigantically cock teased them for no reason. Oh my god. No, they got it. They got it. I got excited for nothing. Chat understood. No, they thought there was another thing. No, chat understood. Well, I mean, we're probably both right. All right, well, we'll see you then next week. Same bad times, same bad channel. Bye. I think you're not going to care, but I still want you to see it anyways. Thing for the all hands."}