WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:05.080 On my show before yeah, yeah, I know I've seen it. I've seen it before I didn't remember the name 00:00:05.080 --> 00:00:07.760 I never remember the names of like anything though, so that's not surprising 00:00:08.200 --> 00:00:11.160 Say my name say my name. I was explained to Sammy 00:00:12.600 --> 00:00:14.600 Lance? 00:00:15.880 --> 00:00:24.080 I was explaining to Sammy how I have to Careful with that one figure out my my birthday. Don't think I don't know where you're going with that Dan. I was going nowhere 00:00:24.080 --> 00:00:29.680 I was going nowhere. I was just gibberish. Yeah. Yeah, yeah a hundred percent 00:00:30.880 --> 00:00:34.440 Yeah, but actually though. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah 00:00:37.400 --> 00:00:43.200 Sorry, what are we talking about? Are we are we live? I don't know. I appreciate it. Yeah. Oh, it's up y'all 00:00:45.320 --> 00:00:47.320 We're time for a yard 00:00:48.720 --> 00:00:53.840 All right, should we do this thing? No, okay. See you later. Okay, right? 00:00:56.200 --> 00:00:58.200 Have a good one 00:00:59.200 --> 00:01:02.840 Um, are we ever gonna play Anna again? I'd be down. I like Anna 00:01:03.840 --> 00:01:07.120 It's so it's such a commitment. That's the problem 00:01:08.400 --> 00:01:12.760 Sort of like games, you know, it would be less of a commitment if it was on friggin steam 00:01:13.640 --> 00:01:17.280 We could just have the built-in steam notes thing. Mm-hmm. Oh 00:01:19.000 --> 00:01:24.360 It's like I don't remember what I was doing last time. Yeah, and like I yeah, you can do a Google doc or whatever 00:01:24.360 --> 00:01:27.000 But you don't want to yeah, that's not slaying. Yeah 00:01:28.560 --> 00:01:34.640 Okay, I guess we could start whatever but I put this thing on that I'm not gonna talk about yet 00:01:34.640 --> 00:01:43.760 And it made me want to go to sleep I'm not even I'm not even kidding. That is kind of the intent. I almost immediately was like I want to be in a 00:01:44.640 --> 00:01:50.040 comfortable camping chair by a fire having like s'mores or something. Yeah vibin 00:01:51.080 --> 00:01:53.080 Yeah, buddy 00:01:55.480 --> 00:01:57.480 Products that make you feel something 00:01:59.160 --> 00:02:04.360 Um, oh my god signing into anything it's just 00:02:05.280 --> 00:02:12.440 such a freaking Pain in the buttocks these days. What do you think of ready or not the game? 00:02:12.440 --> 00:02:20.240 I think the AI is infuriating I keep trying to go for the whatever it's called the golden watch or whatever by doing doing the whole campaign and 00:02:20.720 --> 00:02:28.360 I As far as I can tell the closest I've ever gotten is by just telling the AI to halt at the beginning of the mission 00:02:28.360 --> 00:02:34.360 And then soloing the entire thing because if I don't do that, they just screw it up. It's so frustrating. They're so bad 00:02:35.040 --> 00:02:39.360 Dude, I don't know how people ever got into the Rainbow Six franchise 00:02:40.240 --> 00:02:47.920 Because like the OG ones. Yeah, the early games. They're completely. I'm sorry. No offense. You're tasting games is great 00:02:48.280 --> 00:02:55.960 They're unplayable Garbage having to deal with that AI like it's not that's not fun to me 00:02:56.520 --> 00:03:03.720 Just like having what I'm doing completely ruined through no fault of my own because of my boneheaded allies 00:03:04.200 --> 00:03:06.200 Yeah, like no, man 00:03:07.400 --> 00:03:09.400 No, man 00:03:11.880 --> 00:03:15.320 Yeah, I tried I tried giving my AI pepper guns as well 00:03:15.880 --> 00:03:21.320 But my problem is they'll just just like walk out in front of enemy fire and die. It's like you need to stop 00:03:29.720 --> 00:03:33.720 All right I 00:03:39.560 --> 00:03:42.520 I'm concerned about Lena Kahn me too 00:03:44.360 --> 00:03:50.680 Protect Lena Kahn. Yep. It won't happen. She's gone. She's done need Lena. Dude. She's done 00:03:52.520 --> 00:03:55.720 Can we import her to Canada? I'd be down. I'd be down 00:03:56.760 --> 00:03:59.720 She could run Canada. Yeah, I'd be down. I'd be down 00:04:00.520 --> 00:04:02.520 I would instantly vote 00:04:13.400 --> 00:04:18.840 But sounds like the brand Bronzebeard crap. No, I don't and I don't even know what you're talking about. Sorry 00:04:30.280 --> 00:04:33.800 Raquel asks what is that thing between you two you sound like Yvonne 00:04:39.720 --> 00:04:43.720 It's a piece of plexiglass I am sick 00:04:43.720 --> 00:04:49.960 So and I I was sick For like almost half of 2024. So I just really 00:04:50.600 --> 00:04:54.280 I'm so tired of being sick. Yeah. Oh my goodness 00:05:00.520 --> 00:05:08.280 Ah Rescue weasel asks can we keep politics out and have a good win show dude? We didn't we didn't choose to be where we are 00:05:11.160 --> 00:05:17.080 So much tech Just it it depends on policy 00:05:17.160 --> 00:05:24.760 Yeah, and it depends on policy from people who either don't understand it or seem to be hell bent on 00:05:25.720 --> 00:05:29.400 Interpreting it in the least consumer 00:05:29.400 --> 00:05:36.440 Benefiting possible way and to be to be fair as far as my understanding goes Lena Khan was at risk with whoever god voted it 00:05:37.320 --> 00:05:44.760 So like this this was actually not I don't I think that's almost like not even politics. She is just a supreme bad ass 00:05:44.840 --> 00:05:50.760 Yeah, I don't like I as far as my understanding goes. There was a there was a risk with either one getting in so I'm not even like 00:05:51.960 --> 00:06:00.760 We're not even really talking about that Yeah, I was worried about it either way. I just I hope by some miracle. She's able to 00:06:02.360 --> 00:06:09.080 Stay in her position because I think she's very good. Yeah, if if any elected representative at any level of government 00:06:09.720 --> 00:06:13.960 for you Does anything to not protect Lena Khan? 00:06:14.840 --> 00:06:19.720 You know that they are not looking out for your best interests and you should just vote them out next time 00:06:20.040 --> 00:06:22.920 Yeah, I feel the same way like immediately. She is 00:06:24.200 --> 00:06:27.720 Basically every single time she opens her mouth. I'm like 00:06:28.280 --> 00:06:33.240 Holy holy crap. That's amazing a government official that actually gets it. Yeah 00:06:35.480 --> 00:06:37.480 Yeah 00:06:38.680 --> 00:06:43.160 A person 123 says it's physically impossible to protect her. It's just over 00:06:45.800 --> 00:06:49.960 A handyman. Yep Kamala wanted to remove her as well due to her tech connections. Yeah, I don't know 00:06:50.200 --> 00:06:53.240 Um, I don't you know, I'm not fully in the weeds on that stuff 00:06:53.320 --> 00:06:57.320 It's just all I'm saying is I it doesn't I understand it's like technically a political thing 00:06:57.320 --> 00:07:04.040 I just don't think it's that political because both parties were like, yeah had reasons to remove her. So it feels pretty 00:07:06.600 --> 00:07:11.240 Either team to me Yeah 00:07:11.240 --> 00:07:15.960 Such a bummer. Yeah Oh, well, there's very few times 00:07:16.360 --> 00:07:21.240 That I've been like, wow this person that holds some form of political office is like awesome 00:07:24.840 --> 00:07:29.400 Smoking says luke likes trump Linus is pissed. So he put up plexiglass 00:07:32.040 --> 00:07:36.440 You know what, you know what my I'm gonna go with that I'm gonna go with that on the show 00:07:36.680 --> 00:07:41.240 My joke before the stream was that uh, we never see each other anymore 00:07:41.320 --> 00:07:44.920 So now I just I see you on the screen all the time. So I just I wanted it to be more 00:07:45.960 --> 00:07:47.960 Like real life 00:07:49.160 --> 00:07:53.240 We even work in the same office now, but I still never see you at the office 00:07:54.360 --> 00:07:56.760 Um, got him. All right, should we do this thing? 00:07:58.680 --> 00:08:04.600 As far as I can tell the the tuesday pod out in the warehouse might as well be my office right mechatronics dragon calm down 00:08:05.560 --> 00:08:09.000 What do you do? He's not being calm 00:08:09.640 --> 00:08:12.040 Just just calm down. Oh, yeah, just calm down 00:08:12.760 --> 00:08:15.720 Uh, all right, why don't we uh, why don't we go ahead and do this thing? 00:08:19.000 --> 00:08:21.000 Resuming the selected now, yeah 00:08:28.760 --> 00:08:30.760 That's probably true chiefry 00:08:35.320 --> 00:08:39.560 What's up y'all welcome to the WAN Show it's been a great week 00:08:40.280 --> 00:08:42.280 No, it's been a great week 00:08:43.320 --> 00:08:48.280 Nope, and it's gonna be a great WAN Show. Okay. I wasn't even talking about like world events 00:08:50.520 --> 00:08:55.320 I realize what that probably sounded like now. I'm not I wasn't trying. I'm not even we're not even going down that road 00:08:55.400 --> 00:09:01.560 Wow, it took us it took us exactly three seconds. I didn't intend to three seconds 00:09:03.000 --> 00:09:08.440 To alienate some half of america. I wasn't what I was talking about and we don't even know which one it is 00:09:10.200 --> 00:09:15.480 Way to go luke. I was talking about completely not american things. Okay. I was 00:09:16.680 --> 00:09:21.080 Nothing to do with america. We've got a lot of great topics for you guys today 00:09:21.160 --> 00:09:24.680 I forget what the headline one was so luke might get it for a change 00:09:25.080 --> 00:09:28.840 AMD is Rocketing upward. They have 00:09:29.800 --> 00:09:35.240 Wow Okay, well we'll get into the details later, but yeah, that is absolutely incredible 00:09:35.720 --> 00:09:41.000 EA has ditched support for Linux in apex legends 00:09:41.640 --> 00:09:47.320 citing The fact that Linux gamers are far more likely to cheat 00:09:49.720 --> 00:09:55.320 Them some fighting words yokes. What else we got this week a modder has made diy 00:09:55.640 --> 00:10:03.480 Upgradable max storage Okay, this is so cool. This is legitimately crazy prices. We were talking about might not be so bad 00:10:03.480 --> 00:10:07.880 Actually, there's a little more to that as well. We'll get to it intriguing 00:10:08.520 --> 00:10:15.800 The last one I will bring up is that ms paint might be like a cool neat thing to do on your computer again 00:10:16.520 --> 00:10:21.800 Really? Maybe they're bringing ai features to ms paint and notepad 00:10:33.640 --> 00:10:46.520 The show is brought to you today by thingiverse. Oh cool. See sonic notion 00:10:47.000 --> 00:10:53.240 And of course our chair partner secret lap our laptop partner lg and our rap partner d brand. Okay 00:10:54.200 --> 00:10:59.240 Small aside. Have you seen my car yet? Not in person. I've seen pictures though 00:11:00.040 --> 00:11:04.280 My goodness. Okay. Anyway, that's I'll have to tell me when you get pulled over 00:11:04.760 --> 00:11:08.440 EA is dropping Linux support for apex legends 00:11:08.920 --> 00:11:15.960 Despite the fact that the game was in the top 50 in terms of popularity on the steam deck over the past year 00:11:16.680 --> 00:11:22.920 According to EA developers, it is much harder to catch Linux based cheaters and the quote is 00:11:23.560 --> 00:11:28.440 The openness of the Linux operating systems make it an attractive 00:11:29.480 --> 00:11:36.520 The openness of the Linux operating systems, whatever make it an attractive one for cheaters and cheat developers 00:11:37.000 --> 00:11:43.560 They claim that the impact of Linux cheaters was having an outsized impact on other players experience 00:11:43.960 --> 00:11:48.440 And thus EA has decided it is not worth supporting the platform 00:11:48.440 --> 00:11:53.800 I suspect if i'm reading between the lines accurately, I suspect this might also mean that the player base 00:11:54.600 --> 00:11:57.800 Playing on Linux is probably not super high either 00:11:57.800 --> 00:12:04.920 But it's very interesting to me that they specifically call out the outsized impact that that small player base is having 00:12:05.080 --> 00:12:08.200 Because the player base can't be that small if you're a top 50 game 00:12:08.280 --> 00:12:14.840 I mean it might not register for a company like EA and one of their halo titles like apex legends, which 00:12:15.480 --> 00:12:19.800 Okay, it's not a halo title. That would be halo, but you get what I mean 00:12:19.800 --> 00:12:21.800 Oh 00:12:25.160 --> 00:12:29.880 He wasn't paying of attention. What he wasn't paying of attention. Don't forget it. Get on the ball, Dan 00:12:30.040 --> 00:12:33.400 I was responding to a horrific merge message. Oh, oh 00:12:34.040 --> 00:12:41.640 Uh Well, cool. I guess we'll get to that later. Okay. Anyway, the point is we've got a few discussion questions here 00:12:41.640 --> 00:12:45.000 And i'm i'm legitimately interested to hear not just luke's perspective 00:12:45.000 --> 00:12:54.040 But I'd like to hear your guys's perspective as well Like if there's anyone who works in game development particularly in anti-cheat development feel free to drop that into the Floatplane chat 00:12:54.040 --> 00:13:00.760 I'm gonna kind of keep an eye out for it But you know the first question is wouldn't more cheap makers be attracted to Windows 00:13:01.240 --> 00:13:07.080 Seeing as the paid cheat industry is kind of an enormous industry these days and Windows is 00:13:08.200 --> 00:13:13.800 Obviously going to be the platform of choice for most gamers. That's where your biggest player base is 00:13:13.800 --> 00:13:20.280 What if it's a premium thing though? Like the you know, you have a less likeliness of getting caught if you use this one 00:13:20.760 --> 00:13:29.480 We are the premium specialized tool By the discerning cheater. I very much suspect that it is but do do you really think that it that it is 00:13:29.960 --> 00:13:33.320 More worth it arch during the day cheating at apex legends at night 00:13:33.720 --> 00:13:38.280 Do you really think that it's more worth it to kind of jump through whatever hoops? 00:13:38.280 --> 00:13:41.080 You might have to jump through to become a Linux gamer 00:13:41.320 --> 00:13:44.840 You know figure out installing Linux for yourself, which to be clear 00:13:44.920 --> 00:13:48.920 I i'm not i'm not talking about you guys right now. You guys know how to you know 00:13:49.400 --> 00:13:54.280 Use rufus and make a usb drive and install an operating system on your computer or whatever 00:13:54.840 --> 00:14:01.400 Exactly exactly. I mean shortly that wouldn't cause the system to immediately break. Did you ever see that video? 00:14:02.120 --> 00:14:07.560 I did nothing wrong Except where it tells you that it's gonna break no no different video 00:14:07.720 --> 00:14:11.080 Oh, there's a ShortCircuit where I unboxed a Linux laptop 00:14:11.880 --> 00:14:19.960 I I installed steam on it. I did I did nothing. I just installed steam on it and then it just wouldn't boot up again 00:14:21.720 --> 00:14:25.080 No, I don't think I've seen I have a talent. I have a talent anyway 00:14:25.720 --> 00:14:31.560 Steam you steam and Linux in the same room. Yeah, the point is I'm not talking about I'm not talking about you guys 00:14:31.560 --> 00:14:34.920 You can do that. I'm talking about your average like slackjawed gamer man 00:14:34.920 --> 00:14:39.080 Like I was at packs one year and I was at the invidia booth and they were showing off 00:14:39.160 --> 00:14:41.880 This was when they were showing off game stream, right? So their wi-fi 00:14:42.600 --> 00:14:46.520 Game streaming to the to the had they launched the shield console yet. I don't even think so 00:14:46.760 --> 00:14:50.120 I think it was on the little shield portable that little handheld Android box 00:14:50.520 --> 00:14:54.840 And there's this guy in a beanbag chair and uh, I walk up to him and I'm like 00:14:55.320 --> 00:14:59.400 Hey, like how's the latency on it and he's he's like I kid you not 00:15:05.640 --> 00:15:09.880 I don't know That seems like a cool game. No, I'm just like 00:15:10.680 --> 00:15:14.840 Dude, you're in the you're in the invidia booth. You're trying game stream. It's not even running on that machine 00:15:14.920 --> 00:15:18.920 That's like the whole point so 00:15:18.920 --> 00:15:22.280 So I guess my point is like so your your your average cheater 00:15:22.760 --> 00:15:25.560 So many full-point chats at his latency was too high. It was a little high 00:15:26.040 --> 00:15:30.280 It was a little a little high. Okay. We were in the pacific northwest. All right, you know, you probably 00:15:31.160 --> 00:15:37.320 Okay, we got a lot of uh, he was enjoying. We got a lot of oceans. We got a lot of oceans. Okay a lot of reefs. Okay a lot of 00:15:41.240 --> 00:15:47.160 He's a reefer this isn't fair you can't be this on it when you're sick. It's not this isn't okay 00:15:48.360 --> 00:15:52.760 um my goodness anyway, so so so 00:15:53.400 --> 00:15:56.920 If I was to try to kind of profile the person who needs to cheat at games 00:15:57.160 --> 00:16:04.280 See when I was a kid the people who cheated at games were like kids, right? Because they they didn't they weren't good or 00:16:05.160 --> 00:16:08.440 They didn't have They didn't have time to use the computer 00:16:08.440 --> 00:16:13.320 Like I feel like that's kind of flipped around where adults are doing things on their phones and like 00:16:13.560 --> 00:16:16.920 You know the kids just kind of seem to have free reign at their computers and stuff 00:16:17.160 --> 00:16:24.440 Like the adults needed to like use the computer Like you were you were fighting over and and in particular the internet connection. Yeah, right? 00:16:24.520 --> 00:16:29.160 Like the the phone line needed to stay open unless you're I have an important call tonight 00:16:29.720 --> 00:16:32.360 Exactly, you can just like be on the internet all the time 00:16:32.760 --> 00:16:38.120 So so you would you could you could cheat and then you could like you could download a diablo trainer 00:16:38.200 --> 00:16:42.200 And then you could kind of like have your godly play to the whale. I'm so sick now 00:16:42.360 --> 00:16:49.560 Yeah, you know go and fight diablo or whatever right so so so the profile that I might have in my in my mind for like 00:16:49.960 --> 00:16:55.000 A cheater as just like you know an average gamer slash a kid who's not good enough or whatever 00:16:55.640 --> 00:17:01.640 That's probably just completely wrong right because you got people who are obviously savvy enough to play a game like tarkov 00:17:02.120 --> 00:17:09.000 But obviously feel the need to cheat at it So you've got these I guess I've talked myself completely out of my argument now because the amount of work 00:17:09.320 --> 00:17:11.960 That people are seem seem to be willing to put into 00:17:13.000 --> 00:17:18.040 Not doing the work There that's what I'm trying to get out of here when you and I were 00:17:19.640 --> 00:17:27.320 Growing up when we were young ins Uh cheaters where it was generally associated with having some amount of knowledge of like software development 00:17:27.400 --> 00:17:33.800 Even if you got the cheat from someone else It it was it seemed like there was some amount of that's true arcane knowledge 00:17:33.880 --> 00:17:38.600 Like it was a pain in the butt to figure out and the resources to to to research it 00:17:39.000 --> 00:17:44.600 And the amount of trouble you did in from your parents for going on sites that could get the computer a virus 00:17:44.920 --> 00:17:50.600 And now it's like advertised on youtube and twitter and stuff like it's it's a totally different realm 00:17:51.480 --> 00:17:58.040 um So I think the like hey, this isn't too bad a lot of people actually do this like all the time 00:17:58.600 --> 00:18:04.040 Is the current vibe and when that's the case you might be more willing to actually try the stuff that would be hard 00:18:04.280 --> 00:18:06.760 You know what I mean installing Linux running them that way etc 00:18:08.920 --> 00:18:11.400 Okay, decimus roman says 00:18:12.360 --> 00:18:20.360 I Nothing decimus roman says I suspect that part of this is that Linux doesn't allow video game companies to play the same games 00:18:20.360 --> 00:18:27.720 They do on Windows with memory inspection Um, but even then the game was a mess on Linux and they weren't really making progress in fixing it 00:18:27.960 --> 00:18:31.480 Do you think that Linux cheaters are just a scapegoat? 00:18:32.520 --> 00:18:35.080 I've I've I wanted about that a little bit. Um 00:18:37.240 --> 00:18:42.360 Because I do know Yeah, the the install base for 00:18:43.400 --> 00:18:47.800 Linux for most games tends to be really low. Um, I know 00:18:48.520 --> 00:18:53.240 It's not super common for for developers to want to take Linux out of their 00:18:54.040 --> 00:18:57.720 um You know supported operating systems 00:18:57.800 --> 00:19:02.600 Um mac is the is the worst Um, but Linux is is pretty bad for that as well 00:19:02.920 --> 00:19:06.360 I've heard that this is much less of a problem now that steam deck is a thing 00:19:06.600 --> 00:19:11.720 Because a higher percentage of your player base does want to be in Linux. Um, but 00:19:15.080 --> 00:19:22.360 I don't know So, okay, hold on. Um gauntlet wizard says it does allow memory inspection in fact more 00:19:25.480 --> 00:19:27.640 Is it just not supported by their anti-cheat? 00:19:29.080 --> 00:19:34.760 That's a good question. I'm not sure and again that would come back down to just scapegoating not wanting to put in the resources 00:19:35.400 --> 00:19:37.400 Whoa 00:19:41.000 --> 00:19:49.160 Is that scapegoating not wanting to put in the resources? No, I mean, I just mean saying because it would still be scapegoating to say it's because of people cheating on the platform 00:19:49.240 --> 00:19:56.920 Well, it is for yeah So for if if the reason is actually just that they they they could deal with it, but they would just have to put in the work 00:19:57.480 --> 00:20:00.040 Um to to figure out, you know better memory inspection 00:20:01.000 --> 00:20:06.520 And is that scapegoating though is memory inspection really the biggest impediment though or would it be more to do with? 00:20:08.840 --> 00:20:15.720 I was gonna say more to do with not being allowed to just run at kernel level willy-nilly, but even then they probably like could 00:20:17.560 --> 00:20:23.800 Tons of different I learned this from playing tarkoff There's tons of different types of cheats because you could cheat and this would help you in apex legends a lot 00:20:23.880 --> 00:20:28.840 Actually is knowing where everyone on the map is right? Yeah, you can do that without changing what's in the memory 00:20:30.040 --> 00:20:32.040 You do that just by reading the memory 00:20:33.240 --> 00:20:37.000 I see and there's nothing you can do to prevent something from just reading 00:20:38.680 --> 00:20:40.680 I don't see how you'd do that 00:20:41.960 --> 00:20:47.640 I I Don't know enough about it. I think it shows up in device manager though, doesn't it? 00:20:48.920 --> 00:20:53.800 Um on Windows I don't like gauntlet wizard says nobody would let them have 00:20:54.120 --> 00:20:57.160 Root to access it because Linux gamers aren't stupid 00:20:57.480 --> 00:21:03.480 But it's like okay, but hold on a second if the game just requires it if the game just requires it either don't play or you do it 00:21:03.720 --> 00:21:08.200 Yeah, like what do you what is your I guess that's my question is what is your proposal? 00:21:08.840 --> 00:21:12.360 for for anti-cheat then if if we don't 00:21:12.920 --> 00:21:19.880 Access this stuff if we don't lock it down like and I'm not saying this is the way to you know to allow companies to install 00:21:20.520 --> 00:21:25.080 Root kits or you know kernel level anti-cheat or whatever else I'm not I'm not saying that's the way 00:21:25.080 --> 00:21:28.680 I'm just saying okay if that isn't the way what what's the other way 00:21:29.800 --> 00:21:31.800 Like give me give me give me another way 00:21:36.680 --> 00:21:39.720 It's gonna be a yeah Windows kernel expert can protect okay 00:21:39.800 --> 00:21:44.920 Yeah, so this is more just like people people are mainly saying look this pretty much seems to come down to 00:21:45.640 --> 00:21:49.640 resource management Um 00:21:49.960 --> 00:21:55.160 Yeah, I don't know not a cheat developer. I can't say hardware level encryption of processes memory 00:21:56.760 --> 00:22:03.240 Huh, I mean we're talking about like a complete architectural shift then at least for you know like the the open 00:22:03.560 --> 00:22:07.960 You know standards desktop pc. I mean you could you could do that for a console or whatever else 00:22:07.960 --> 00:22:11.240 You're not going to do that on Windows at least not for the time being 00:22:11.960 --> 00:22:19.160 um Apparently auto hotkey gives you aimbot on apex. I've seen a couple people talk about that 00:22:20.520 --> 00:22:27.400 This is wild dude. I saw someone in the chat in Floatplane chat was saying I I have a friend who's good at uh 00:22:28.120 --> 00:22:34.120 What is it? I don't remember what it is battlefield cod something. I don't know some game and 00:22:34.680 --> 00:22:36.920 basically he uses cheats because 00:22:37.720 --> 00:22:42.600 He'll get put into lobbies that are too sweaty and he just wants to go around and kill people 00:22:43.160 --> 00:22:51.160 it's like Look, I can't tell you play with bots. I can't tell you who to be friends with and who to not be friends with 00:22:51.880 --> 00:22:55.880 um But your friends at this hole so yeah 00:22:58.120 --> 00:23:05.240 Like It's mathematical. I I genuinely get suspicious of what other 00:23:08.360 --> 00:23:12.280 Like if they if they're if they're okay with that while they're the things are they okay with you know 00:23:13.320 --> 00:23:17.080 And that that's a bit of a slippery slope because you're expecting every person to be perfect 00:23:17.080 --> 00:23:20.280 But it's like it's it's it's concerning and there's an easy it would raise a red 00:23:20.360 --> 00:23:24.360 No, there's an easy counter argument. The easy counter argument is it's a game 00:23:25.080 --> 00:23:29.080 Does it even really matter that much? And then there's an easy counter argument to that 00:23:29.640 --> 00:23:36.600 If someone is willing to lie or cheat or step on someone else when the stakes are so low 00:23:37.160 --> 00:23:41.320 When it doesn't even matter When it hardly impacts them at all 00:23:43.320 --> 00:23:48.200 If it was on the line, if it was a big deal, would they stand up for what's right? 00:23:49.320 --> 00:23:57.320 Heck no, obviously. Yeah Like they were willing to compromise their principles for literally zero personal gain 00:23:58.440 --> 00:24:02.680 nothing I don't know just food for thought 00:24:02.680 --> 00:24:09.320 Just food for thought. Yeah Yeah, funny hat says if you wouldn't trust a man with a dollar would you trust him with a million dollars? 00:24:10.280 --> 00:24:13.320 People I there there's someone I stopped playing badminton with 00:24:13.800 --> 00:24:20.120 um because I was sitting behind their court at a tournament and it was uh, it was like 00:24:20.840 --> 00:24:24.760 2220 so it was like introduced where you have to win by two points third set 00:24:25.560 --> 00:24:30.280 and the other team Hit a clear over their head 00:24:30.440 --> 00:24:35.080 And it obviously um landed out 00:24:35.800 --> 00:24:37.960 No, it obviously obviously landed in 00:24:38.840 --> 00:24:44.040 And they call it out And the way that it works in in recreational tournaments 00:24:44.680 --> 00:24:49.320 Is that the line call is the team that is that is on that side 00:24:49.400 --> 00:24:54.920 You you call your own line calls because you're closer. You you're the only one who can realistically tell 00:24:55.000 --> 00:25:01.320 There's no line judges because we don't have you know six people to line up down all edges of the court and like check everything 00:25:01.720 --> 00:25:05.160 Because it's just rec, right? Yeah um 00:25:05.160 --> 00:25:08.760 And what you're supposed to do is if you're not sure you replay the point 00:25:09.480 --> 00:25:13.000 Okay, it's if there's a dispute. You're supposed to replay the point. So the other person was like, uh 00:25:14.120 --> 00:25:18.200 That was obviously in um 00:25:18.200 --> 00:25:25.080 and This this person who I had been playing with on a fairly regular basis was like, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh 00:25:25.240 --> 00:25:31.960 And like got all aggressive about it and declared themselves the winner of the game and the other people being you know 00:25:31.960 --> 00:25:38.600 non-confrontational and just being like dude this it's a game like what is what 00:25:38.600 --> 00:25:48.760 are we even what are we even doing here they backed down because they were like this is this is ridiculous and I was like yeah that's I I would never I will 00:25:48.760 --> 00:25:53.240 never play with that person again I will never set foot on a court with that 00:25:53.240 --> 00:25:59.280 person because you are just you're a dishonest person you have shown your 00:25:59.320 --> 00:26:05.520 character more clearly than any words you could ever say yeah especially in 00:26:05.520 --> 00:26:14.120 such a like not that it makes it better in a competitive game but like it's just 00:26:14.120 --> 00:26:20.320 it's it feels almost worse that it was like a casual recreational match yeah 00:26:20.320 --> 00:26:25.080 you know like I just I don't know I mean in so well and you know what no no I 00:26:25.080 --> 00:26:29.400 think that's a fair point because in a professional league part of the 00:26:29.400 --> 00:26:35.400 gamesmanship like literally I had this I had this like NHL card game when I was a 00:26:35.400 --> 00:26:42.000 kid and one up and so what would happen is like you could like you would it was 00:26:42.000 --> 00:26:45.240 like a deck game and you would well I mean any card games a deck game whatever 00:26:45.240 --> 00:26:48.720 just calm down the point and it wasn't a deck building game is a card game so so 00:26:48.720 --> 00:26:53.720 you would you would draw your cards and so you could you could play shot and the 00:26:53.720 --> 00:26:59.840 other person would have to have a save okay or or they could play a hook and 00:26:59.840 --> 00:27:09.040 then I could play the the ref to call the hook oh okay and then you could play 00:27:09.040 --> 00:27:15.840 behind the ref's back and then the hook wouldn't get called and then my shot 00:27:15.840 --> 00:27:19.440 wouldn't go in you know like so there were like multiple ways to defend 00:27:19.760 --> 00:27:24.040 interesting against a goal okay and so and and so I guess what I'm trying to say 00:27:24.040 --> 00:27:28.480 is I think at a professional level there is a there is a certain amount of 00:27:28.480 --> 00:27:35.040 gamesmanship that is pushing the boundaries but then that's also why you 00:27:35.040 --> 00:27:40.000 would have a referee line judge at that level of competition exactly yeah so I 00:27:40.000 --> 00:27:44.000 guess what I'm trying to say is yes at a professional level no I think I don't 00:27:44.360 --> 00:27:49.480 I don't really respect it no I don't like dirty players yeah but I also do 00:27:49.480 --> 00:27:56.160 acknowledge that that is the expectation and that if everyone's doing it now it's 00:27:56.160 --> 00:28:00.560 part of the game yeah and we can we can doesn't mean it's good the dives in 00:28:00.560 --> 00:28:05.680 soccer are disgusting and ridiculous extremely detrimental to the credibility 00:28:05.680 --> 00:28:13.400 of the sport as an outsider who actually enjoys watching watching football there 00:28:13.480 --> 00:28:17.600 I'll even I'll even use the proper name for the sport out of respect women's 00:28:17.600 --> 00:28:22.680 football soccer whatever it's fun and cool to watch they don't dive yep so as 00:28:22.680 --> 00:28:26.720 someone who as someone who thinks the game is super cool and I don't see a 00:28:26.720 --> 00:28:30.120 lot of it and I'm used to hockey you know so I'm not going to be I'm not one 00:28:30.120 --> 00:28:33.920 of the one of those Americans who's like I watch basketball if there's no 00:28:33.920 --> 00:28:38.960 scoring for like 18 seconds I'm bored what's happening why is it why is anybody 00:28:38.960 --> 00:28:43.800 scoring that's so big like I like I don't even mind it I don't even mind I 00:28:43.800 --> 00:28:46.800 come from hockey I'll watch a zero I'll watch a nil nil game all the time no 00:28:46.800 --> 00:28:52.200 problem I mean I prefer scoring and I think we all do but but but but I like 00:28:52.200 --> 00:28:56.560 the tension you know I like the tension but it yeah really it really takes me 00:28:56.560 --> 00:29:00.400 out of it dude it takes me out of it in a big way well yeah when it just feels 00:29:00.400 --> 00:29:07.320 like instead of watching a sports competition I'm watching a freaking like 00:29:07.640 --> 00:29:12.680 high school level acting competition yeah it's pathetic I was trying to get 00:29:12.680 --> 00:29:15.760 into it at one point in time yeah if I wanted to watch that immediately turn it 00:29:15.760 --> 00:29:21.680 off the second someone I'd watch youtuber apology video duels that actually be 00:29:21.680 --> 00:29:27.040 kind of a funny a funny concept for video well what ours do I don't know I 00:29:27.040 --> 00:29:31.800 didn't PewDiePie review it did he I think so I don't know I think so I have no 00:29:31.800 --> 00:29:39.240 idea when we said I don't remember I probably looked at it at some point 00:29:39.240 --> 00:29:45.560 apology Mick Legan says well you're still around hey all right then I guess 00:29:45.560 --> 00:29:56.920 then I guess I guess I'd probably do pretty okay what now I hope because it's 00:29:57.280 --> 00:30:10.160 no what what is this what is this what is this yeah is this seriously the last 00:30:10.160 --> 00:30:15.320 video they uploaded to like what is this so it left it off on a banger dude 2.4 00:30:15.320 --> 00:30:21.160 million views I didn't mean to click on the Tmoo LMG clips or oh man 00:30:26.520 --> 00:30:33.880 what are you looking at now that's content baby 00:30:33.880 --> 00:30:38.040 how did they how did they get my brain 00:30:38.040 --> 00:30:53.720 in videos relatable what the heck hit me with that before I forget that my key 00:30:53.720 --> 00:31:10.160 thanks you know what let it out let it out yeah yeah why not it's it's healthy 00:31:10.160 --> 00:31:23.240 oh my goodness alright so here's my here's my last sort of question coming 00:31:23.240 --> 00:31:29.520 back to the whole is it just because Linux gamers or cheaters I guess if it's 00:31:29.520 --> 00:31:33.280 just like if it's just like a scapegoat thing Linux people Linux people are 00:31:33.280 --> 00:31:37.720 cheaters or or if it's just and the real reason is we don't feel like doing the 00:31:37.720 --> 00:31:42.920 work then why are so many other anti-cheat games not bothering is it 00:31:42.920 --> 00:31:49.440 also just because they don't feel like I wouldn't be too surprised I'd be 00:31:49.440 --> 00:31:52.840 interested to hear from actual anti-cheat developers because honestly I 00:31:52.840 --> 00:32:00.400 don't know but I am I'm thinking about you know how much work it is to even try 00:32:00.400 --> 00:32:05.520 to keep up with the cheating community as anti-cheat developers yeah because 00:32:05.520 --> 00:32:09.720 you're you're kind of like I'm making assumptions here not an anti-cheat 00:32:09.720 --> 00:32:15.240 developer yeah you're kind of you have to sort of be reactive yeah oh I would 00:32:15.240 --> 00:32:19.640 think so that sucks I mean you're gonna try to get out ahead of it like I'm sure 00:32:19.640 --> 00:32:25.720 you have some developers that are pushing try to get ahead some developers that are pushing to try to be reactive but we've talked about this before where 00:32:25.720 --> 00:32:30.960 certain departments are revenue generating departments and other departments 00:32:30.960 --> 00:32:35.280 are considered you know more like boat anchor departments and if I'm if I'm a 00:32:35.280 --> 00:32:39.560 game developer I'm looking at my anti-cheat not as a revenue generation 00:32:39.560 --> 00:32:45.280 department but as like a as a burden as something that I need to well usually 00:32:45.280 --> 00:32:49.760 anti-cheat is a separate company so sorry but you're still gonna sorry sorry 00:32:50.000 --> 00:32:57.360 you're still gonna have internal people that are responsible for the implementation you're still gonna have internal people that are working to make 00:32:57.360 --> 00:33:03.080 sure that the game actually functions with the third party and so this is 00:33:03.080 --> 00:33:06.440 something that by and large and there's still gonna be a limit to how much you're 00:33:06.440 --> 00:33:10.240 gonna want to pay your third-party anti-cheat so in terms of the the 00:33:10.240 --> 00:33:16.200 investment you're making an anti-cheat it's not a gonna pay 50% more to have 00:33:16.200 --> 00:33:22.560 Linux compatible to counter to counter how much cheat developers can charge for 00:33:22.560 --> 00:33:26.760 their services right so what we're looking at is a situation where the 00:33:26.760 --> 00:33:32.920 investment in cheating software is is a revenue generating department an 00:33:32.920 --> 00:33:37.520 exciting department whereas the investment in anti-cheat is like a 00:33:37.520 --> 00:33:44.120 burdensome we have to do this so we can sell more the players don't scream 00:33:44.480 --> 00:33:49.960 yeah exactly and so you're always gonna I just feel like you're always gonna be 00:33:49.960 --> 00:33:54.440 on the back foot that way and and there's a really there's a really 00:33:54.440 --> 00:33:58.480 unpleasant comment in the flow plane chat someone said because they're lazy and 00:33:58.480 --> 00:34:06.840 that is just so unfair to developers I I have had the pleasure of meeting of 00:34:06.840 --> 00:34:11.560 meeting some game developers and I haven't met a single one that I would 00:34:11.560 --> 00:34:18.760 characterize as just lazy yeah in fact they've felt to me and this is based on 00:34:18.760 --> 00:34:21.880 limited interactions I don't know about best friends or anything did you meet 00:34:21.880 --> 00:34:26.600 the developers sorry yeah like that this is a person who their job is due 00:34:26.600 --> 00:34:29.800 development yeah well they're not picking their tasks well I know that's 00:34:29.800 --> 00:34:33.280 where I'm getting to Luke he ruined the thing I'm working on a whole set up 00:34:33.280 --> 00:34:37.640 here I do specialize at this yeah I mean but but what I'm trying to say is like 00:34:37.640 --> 00:34:43.520 they've seemed in every case passionate and a lot of the time if they're not 00:34:43.520 --> 00:34:48.080 getting resources if they're not getting time they're not getting tasked thank you 00:34:48.080 --> 00:34:52.280 Luke on on these things that will that will improve the game for their 00:34:52.280 --> 00:34:56.960 community well it comes down to the bean counters that comes from somewhere to 00:34:56.960 --> 00:35:00.840 defend potentially the bean counters sometimes there are business realities 00:35:00.840 --> 00:35:05.560 that there's nothing that they can do about if we spend all this time and all 00:35:05.560 --> 00:35:10.440 this money on this thing that like four people care about it will cost us an 00:35:10.440 --> 00:35:14.080 opportunity over here will come at to the detriment of these other things can I 00:35:14.080 --> 00:35:18.120 no longer hire a person to help this other overworked person we have on the 00:35:18.120 --> 00:35:23.320 team can we not give good raises this year do we have to lay people off because 00:35:23.320 --> 00:35:28.840 we're out of money these are questions that bean counters are trying to do that 00:35:28.840 --> 00:35:34.920 monolith and it's rough out there right now that monolith tour was so cool like 00:35:34.920 --> 00:35:40.280 that the number of the game I wouldn't say necessarily all of them were devs 00:35:40.280 --> 00:35:45.000 but devs and artists the number of the people that worked on the game that 00:35:45.000 --> 00:35:50.520 were like so multi-hatted and like they literally did their own combat mo cap 00:35:50.520 --> 00:35:55.800 just like people who worked in the studio who were like yeah I like I like 00:35:55.800 --> 00:36:01.920 train karate on my own time I'm going to my cap room to like fight with people 00:36:01.920 --> 00:36:07.200 and like this is sick that is so cool that was that was a really cool thing 00:36:07.200 --> 00:36:13.200 that we did speaking of things being rough out there dude did you see Warner 00:36:13.200 --> 00:36:20.800 Brothers said they lost a hundred million dollars hold on loss a hundred 00:36:20.800 --> 00:36:26.960 million I'm working on it they lost yeah here we go multi-versus and quidditch 00:36:26.960 --> 00:36:31.000 champions together I wanted to be an actual in flipping chat said it's rough 00:36:31.000 --> 00:36:35.640 when you do bad decisions I don't disagree I will also say and I'm not 00:36:35.640 --> 00:36:39.960 saying that you don't I'm just I think sometimes a lot of the feedback that you 00:36:39.960 --> 00:36:45.720 hear from that is people that don't make that level of decision it's also really 00:36:45.720 --> 00:36:48.880 easy to look at those level of decisions in hindsight and be like yeah that was 00:36:48.880 --> 00:36:54.760 obviously stupid I've done stuff that was obviously stupid in hindsight I don't 00:36:54.840 --> 00:37:03.160 know can you can you think of anything yeah we can move on 00:37:07.160 --> 00:37:13.400 yeah I think I broke it I think there's there's so many things running to his 00:37:13.400 --> 00:37:18.880 brain right now it's actually reached a runaway state and you can't bring it 00:37:18.880 --> 00:37:24.840 back under control okay we're even talking about we're talking about the 00:37:24.840 --> 00:37:33.600 heart our incident oh my which was not that word okay it was not that word yeah 00:37:33.600 --> 00:37:39.640 yeah that's not a word that I believe exists in my vocabulary in my life to 00:37:39.640 --> 00:37:43.320 Aquila or whatever trust me I get it and there's a lot of scenarios where I feel 00:37:43.320 --> 00:37:48.400 like even if we're not thinking in a hindsight sense I'm looking at some of 00:37:48.400 --> 00:37:51.520 the things some of these companies are doing I'm like oh my that's so incredibly 00:37:51.520 --> 00:37:56.440 dumb and I mean it happens I'm not defending all of it I'm just saying 00:37:56.440 --> 00:38:01.040 sometimes like I don't know it doesn't it's it's not automatically that this 00:38:01.040 --> 00:38:05.200 person was just like being a malicious jerk sometimes they're just trying to 00:38:05.200 --> 00:38:08.800 deal with the cards they have and they don't have a great option and they do 00:38:08.800 --> 00:38:15.360 the one they think is best and none of them were good and that one sucks and people are mad it's well that channel that you were talking about that like 00:38:15.400 --> 00:38:20.560 takes apart the bags and stuff oh yeah watch that because you just like the 00:38:20.560 --> 00:38:27.280 taste of leather so much or what I just kind of noticing that out of the two of 00:38:27.280 --> 00:38:30.520 us for some reason you're the corporate bootlicker and I'm just I'm no I'm 00:38:30.520 --> 00:38:33.720 giving them a hard time my goodness I'm giving all Luke's trying to say is that 00:38:33.720 --> 00:38:38.120 everyone everyone's human and I mean that at a variety of levels too right we 00:38:38.120 --> 00:38:41.280 could be talking about a small indie game with two people or one person yeah 00:38:41.840 --> 00:38:46.000 and I and I mean that all the way up I suspect the more the company size grows 00:38:46.000 --> 00:38:50.080 the more it is malicious and bad and dumb decisions I think the more it is 00:38:50.080 --> 00:38:54.640 attached to exactly yeah people that don't care about the thing that they're 00:38:54.640 --> 00:38:58.160 making they just want more money and you have people who don't know who the 00:38:58.160 --> 00:39:01.560 people working on it are absolutely they don't see them they don't interact with 00:39:01.560 --> 00:39:04.840 them every day like these these are absolutely things I'm just saying like 00:39:04.840 --> 00:39:12.640 I don't know anyway WB games lost a hundred million dollars on multi-versus 00:39:12.640 --> 00:39:20.880 and Quidditch champions can I just say for a moment that I would be happy Warner 00:39:20.880 --> 00:39:26.440 Brothers I would be happy to work as a consultant for you okay and if you'd 00:39:26.440 --> 00:39:34.640 like for the small fee of 99 million dollars oh okay I would be happy to tell 00:39:34.640 --> 00:39:40.640 you that don't whether you should make a game or not yeah yeah yeah and Quidditch 00:39:40.640 --> 00:39:48.160 champions let me let me get let me let me it's a pretty obvious no yeah speaking 00:39:48.160 --> 00:39:51.600 of speaking of bad decisions that we don't need hindsight to have known 00:39:51.600 --> 00:39:55.520 whether or not I don't know anything about this game not even sort of 00:39:55.520 --> 00:40:00.160 surprised it didn't do well why would you buy a Quidditch game Quidditch literally 00:40:00.520 --> 00:40:06.840 is a sport what are the worst thought of sports that was invented by someone who 00:40:06.840 --> 00:40:12.800 hates sports I didn't know that no surprise thinks they're stupid and went 00:40:12.800 --> 00:40:20.640 out of their way to to make a like a just terribly designed game what what's 00:40:20.640 --> 00:40:26.360 the word it's it's it's it's not parody the it's satire it's it's it's like it's 00:40:26.360 --> 00:40:29.920 it's it's or maybe it is parody I don't know it's whatever the word I'm looking 00:40:29.920 --> 00:40:34.240 for it is it's it's intent caricature that's pretty good thanks ninja dude it's 00:40:34.240 --> 00:40:41.480 a caricature of sport it emphasizes the the weird tribalism to the point where 00:40:41.480 --> 00:40:47.320 people are cheering when people get seriously injured or almost killed it 00:40:47.320 --> 00:40:54.560 it has intentionally arbitrary rules to sort of to highlight how utterly 00:40:54.560 --> 00:40:59.760 arbitrary the rules can feel sometimes especially if you don't really understand 00:40:59.800 --> 00:41:06.200 sports and you don't care to learn about them like it is it is intentionally 00:41:06.200 --> 00:41:13.720 stupid and intentionally makes no sense and this is something that isn't even 00:41:13.720 --> 00:41:19.960 just like a like a retcon oh yeah you know I totally intended for that plot 00:41:19.960 --> 00:41:24.960 hole or you know I intended for those characters to have an unspoken 00:41:25.200 --> 00:41:30.280 relationship or you know whatever this isn't just some like random inserted in 00:41:30.280 --> 00:41:33.840 an interview five years after the fact this was like well established right 00:41:33.840 --> 00:41:42.080 early on yeah quit it just f***ing stupid and that's totally on purpose yeah and 00:41:42.080 --> 00:41:46.080 also like it was one of those games I remember reading about it because there 00:41:46.080 --> 00:41:52.560 was pretty much no way for them to win on this because to make the game true to 00:41:52.800 --> 00:41:57.920 the sport right like in the novels and in the movies you you have to it would 00:41:57.920 --> 00:42:02.640 have to suck yes and you would and so you would anger a lot of the hardcore 00:42:02.640 --> 00:42:08.400 fans of you know the Harry Potter universe right and and then to make a 00:42:08.400 --> 00:42:15.320 balanced game that would actually play like a decent game at all well yeah 00:42:15.320 --> 00:42:18.520 you have to completely change it right so if you make a balanced game you'll 00:42:18.520 --> 00:42:22.320 you'll screw up with the hardcore's and if you make the game the way that it was 00:42:22.440 --> 00:42:25.800 in the novels and the way it was in the movies then it'll be completely 00:42:25.800 --> 00:42:30.960 unplayable yeah to any gamer who's like knows what a rule set is and how they 00:42:30.960 --> 00:42:35.040 yeah I've read in reading 428 says they should have just done Calvin ball at 00:42:35.040 --> 00:42:41.400 that point yeah dude yeah I would play this out of Calvin ball yeah like okay 00:42:41.400 --> 00:42:46.160 why not because Bill Watterson would never license it that's why that makes 00:42:46.160 --> 00:42:55.000 sense Bill William if I may you know what no I disagree hold on okay hold on 00:42:55.000 --> 00:43:05.400 William okay how about this is a deal how about this is a deal okay you license 00:43:05.400 --> 00:43:15.080 Calvin house wait wait wait wait you license Calvin and Hobbes stop it but 00:43:15.720 --> 00:43:23.000 but the not-for-profit organization that runs it okay has like all the safeguards 00:43:23.000 --> 00:43:28.920 okay it has like capped executive pay for the people who met stop it for the 00:43:28.920 --> 00:43:36.320 people who manage the IP okay it contributes literally 100% of its 00:43:36.320 --> 00:43:43.040 of its yearly proceeds to the foundation or the cause of your choice in 00:43:43.040 --> 00:43:49.040 perpetuity and and and it just it contributes in some way in some way 00:43:49.040 --> 00:43:53.320 just nothing but good to the world with all the profits that it may give me a 00:43:53.320 --> 00:44:03.040 Hobbes toy I think I think based Bill Watterson understands that given the 00:44:03.040 --> 00:44:09.360 erosion of time and entropy all things are able to become corrupted and wasted 00:44:09.360 --> 00:44:17.600 well then he knows then as soon as he dies it's gonna happen anyway hold on 00:44:17.600 --> 00:44:22.480 as long as you can or or don't live to see your your thing that you made 00:44:22.480 --> 00:44:27.840 ruined or instead of don't allow the Hobbit to be made NVIDIA in movie 00:44:27.840 --> 00:44:33.920 form instead of writing that weird picture book or whatever yeah spend your 00:44:34.840 --> 00:44:40.680 time like making it make it setting it up for coolness before you go man 00:44:40.680 --> 00:44:46.720 because the world needs more Calvin and Hobbes did it that'd be cool well he 00:44:46.720 --> 00:44:53.280 doesn't want to he's like retired no unretire well I would like that too don't 00:44:53.280 --> 00:44:59.880 make better this time yeah better this time please don't make that thing what 00:44:59.880 --> 00:45:10.680 up dude me I mean what I guess hello state your request what hello oh oh hi 00:45:10.680 --> 00:45:15.360 okay this live right now yeah yeah are you doing the stamp I don't know anymore 00:45:15.360 --> 00:45:23.160 okay bye all right Dan you have merch messages for me sure BRB one sec okay 00:45:23.160 --> 00:45:28.200 bye topic or we've been on I don't remember I don't yay ditching Linux I 00:45:28.200 --> 00:45:32.560 don't know how we go oh it's happening oh this makes this kind of suck why is 00:45:32.560 --> 00:45:39.360 what is though we'll uh we'll do it we can always yeah sure you guys should go 00:45:39.360 --> 00:45:44.960 away there we go yeah leave please thank you I love you okay let's see what do I 00:45:44.960 --> 00:45:51.600 got okay I am so out of it today I'm so sorry it's okay okay it's okay what do 00:45:51.600 --> 00:45:57.200 we have I know that there was something dude so I have to I've so the way and 00:45:57.200 --> 00:46:00.520 show has been ending slightly early for quite a while because I've had to do 00:46:00.520 --> 00:46:08.360 bird meds every day 12 hours apart because it's 12 hours apart and you know 00:46:08.360 --> 00:46:12.000 you have to go to work it's basically determined that the latest it could be in 00:46:12.000 --> 00:46:18.160 the morning it's like 830 so we do birds met bird meds at 830 in the morning that 00:46:18.160 --> 00:46:23.560 means 12 hours later we have to do bird meds at 830 at night my my girlfriend's 00:46:23.560 --> 00:46:28.480 gonna be away this weekend so I've had to try to learn how to do bird meds alone 00:46:28.480 --> 00:46:32.160 we've had this we've had this strategy where I catch them she gives them the 00:46:32.160 --> 00:46:35.800 medicine we're good we we make the room really dark they have really bad dark 00:46:35.800 --> 00:46:39.520 vision humans have generally better dark vision I can see them I can catch them 00:46:39.520 --> 00:46:43.600 no problem and I hold them with two hands so I have a very nice hold on them 00:46:43.600 --> 00:46:46.720 where there's no pressure at all they're mostly just like standing on one of my 00:46:46.720 --> 00:46:50.280 fingers while I'm just not allowing them to leave and I nicely hold their head in 00:46:50.280 --> 00:46:53.600 place and everything's all good and safe and they're generally okay with it I 00:46:53.600 --> 00:46:58.120 now have to catch them entirely holding them in one hand and then medicine feed 00:46:58.120 --> 00:47:01.760 them with my other hand which is the traditional way to do it it's our thing 00:47:01.760 --> 00:47:05.560 to learn I'm figuring that out right now that's been that's been a that's been a 00:47:05.560 --> 00:47:14.360 trip ask for help like from who who's gonna be able to help me at 830 in the 00:47:14.360 --> 00:47:21.320 morning in my house what if the other bird helped yeah oh we got a line of 00:47:21.320 --> 00:47:24.880 speckle ready we didn't even get to do a merge message a maneuver we did that was 00:47:24.880 --> 00:47:33.920 so fast what did you do sound like my wife again you what did you do 00:47:33.920 --> 00:47:44.000 me yeah yeah I got my chips okay yeah yeah yeah that's good all right just 00:47:44.000 --> 00:47:53.640 making sure Canada hasn't been invaded yet it's great life is good I don't think 00:47:53.640 --> 00:47:57.120 we actually got to a merge message I was I was buying time we do actually have to 00:47:57.120 --> 00:48:01.520 explain merge messages and do a couple so oh are we do to do that okay hey 00:48:01.840 --> 00:48:07.400 messages the best way to interact with the show it's merge messages or just I 00:48:07.400 --> 00:48:11.320 don't know rolling up and interrupting apparently because that's what Jake does 00:48:11.320 --> 00:48:15.640 what a what a guy what a flipping guy so we don't do twitch bats we don't do 00:48:15.640 --> 00:48:19.000 super chats we do merge messages because the way that we see it if you're gonna 00:48:19.000 --> 00:48:23.200 throw money at your screen hey your screen should throw something right back 00:48:23.200 --> 00:48:31.280 in your face that's right what what did you throw I don't know it's heavy though 00:48:31.320 --> 00:48:37.520 exploded yeah it was pretty exciting so the point is that all you got to do to 00:48:37.520 --> 00:48:42.240 send a merge message which will go to producer Dan over here I wasn't aiming 00:48:42.240 --> 00:48:46.040 at you Dan no it's exploded all over the floor it's fine it's fine yeah yeah 00:48:46.040 --> 00:48:54.400 it's good did you sound like my wife now don't take a blacklight home the point 00:48:54.400 --> 00:49:02.760 is the point is that all you got to do is go on lttstore.com throw something in 00:49:02.760 --> 00:49:06.560 your cart you'll see a little box for merge messages you can leave a merge 00:49:06.560 --> 00:49:12.400 message it will go to producer Dan he'll forward it to someone answered himself he'll pop it up on the bottom of the screen or he will curate it for me 00:49:12.400 --> 00:49:17.320 and Luke to respond to live on the show you don't have to do that anymore do 00:49:17.320 --> 00:49:22.800 what you got an operation everything yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah 100% 100% now 00:49:22.800 --> 00:49:28.960 it's just for fun all right maybe we can wrap up this segment and get into some 00:49:29.080 --> 00:49:33.120 messages well that's what I should have done yeah 00:49:45.600 --> 00:49:51.920 so anyway it's in the it's in the cart you check out your something we'll 00:49:51.920 --> 00:49:56.200 reply to it curated merge messages Dan do you want to show a couple of them how 00:49:56.200 --> 00:50:01.960 it works sure sure sure Linus do you still hold your meme stock or did you 00:50:01.960 --> 00:50:06.160 end up selling it all Yvonne took it from me at some point because we needed to 00:50:06.160 --> 00:50:13.480 shift some cash around at some point I think we lost money it was a fact I 00:50:13.480 --> 00:50:19.160 remember that yeah I think one of you told me and I was like oh you like 00:50:19.160 --> 00:50:23.760 still have that the investment account is empty now not because we lost 00:50:23.920 --> 00:50:29.520 everything was it did it come out flat I actually legitimately don't remember 00:50:29.520 --> 00:50:33.000 anymore but Yvonne needed to move everything that was out of that sort of 00:50:33.000 --> 00:50:37.200 play money investment account that she let me have and she needed to do 00:50:37.200 --> 00:50:42.120 something responsible oh I think to buy the smash champs building yeah probably 00:50:42.120 --> 00:50:45.480 yeah I think it was probably the down payment for smash champs it's okay so 00:50:45.480 --> 00:50:49.040 what okay so I hear you when you say the in the investment account is empty and 00:50:49.040 --> 00:50:52.200 I understand how that functionally works but when you have things like that the 00:50:52.200 --> 00:50:56.880 NASC company and framework like is that because those are different forms of so 00:50:56.880 --> 00:51:01.640 so the when I say the investment account is empty market that yeah yeah okay yeah 00:51:01.640 --> 00:51:09.120 so I own literally zero dollars in the market in the market yeah however I think 00:51:09.120 --> 00:51:15.620 I think I have an investment in a REIT I forget I forget what it stands for real 00:51:15.620 --> 00:51:21.240 estate something T something it's some kind of like term deposit thing and they 00:51:21.280 --> 00:51:25.640 like invest in real estate on your behalf or something sure like that so I 00:51:25.640 --> 00:51:34.560 have I have a small amount in a REIT I I have the approximately quarter mil in 00:51:34.560 --> 00:51:42.520 framework like 220 or 225 or something like that it's a similar amount in I 00:51:42.520 --> 00:51:46.080 don't know if they have they have they've announced their names right the name 00:51:46.520 --> 00:51:50.160 hashtag well now it's announced I think so I think there's even a website in the 00:51:50.160 --> 00:51:57.200 NAS yeah in the NAS software company and that I have real estate holdings and 00:51:57.200 --> 00:52:02.520 then I own stocks in Linus Media Group Inc this thing yeah hex hex OS 00:52:02.520 --> 00:52:07.560 hashtag yeah it's down at the bottom of the page yep yep so so that that is that 00:52:07.560 --> 00:52:14.440 is it it's one of those things where I think that there would definitely have 00:52:14.520 --> 00:52:21.360 been opportunities for me to do extremely well in tech stocks but it has 00:52:21.360 --> 00:52:30.700 seemed a inconvenient and be extremely unethical yeah more morally question to 00:52:30.700 --> 00:52:36.040 participate I wanted to buy NVIDIA back when it was like $17 when I worked 00:52:36.040 --> 00:52:44.720 at NCIX that would have been a pretty good move yeah it is what it is but yeah 00:52:44.720 --> 00:52:50.160 you know you know how it is I think yeah I think holding framework like ultra 00:52:50.160 --> 00:52:55.120 mega long-term is a little bit different than like diamond hands stocks diamond 00:52:55.120 --> 00:53:00.600 hands and framework the framework was it was I wonder what the technical value of 00:53:00.600 --> 00:53:04.920 that investment is now I don't know I was gonna say no I've offered to tell me 00:53:04.920 --> 00:53:08.520 last time I saw him when I was at Computex and I was like dude I actually 00:53:08.520 --> 00:53:13.080 don't want to know it's not gonna change anything yeah and the reality of it is 00:53:13.080 --> 00:53:22.120 even if it even if it doubled even if it quadrupled it's not it's not gonna 00:53:22.120 --> 00:53:28.600 impact our business in any meaningful way like where we're not salaries we're 00:53:28.600 --> 00:53:32.600 not cash-strapped it's not like we're it's not like we like have 00:53:32.760 --> 00:53:38.520 trouble making payroll you know and I feel like now's a good time just like 00:53:38.520 --> 00:53:43.760 shout out the team like massive massive shout out to the merch team business 00:53:43.760 --> 00:53:47.680 team content team did we talk about this last week we had we had an all-hands 00:53:47.680 --> 00:53:51.240 was it talking about in the all-hands yeah we had an all-hands earlier this week 00:53:51.240 --> 00:54:05.680 and not this week was it this week long week dude yeah holy oh my no oh no that's 00:54:05.680 --> 00:54:12.120 not okay that we all should not feel like that I'm upset that's actually 00:54:12.120 --> 00:54:19.040 upsetting what a week that's crazy okay we weird it's weird that the beginning of 00:54:19.080 --> 00:54:23.280 covid feels like it was like a couple years ago I know but this week feels 00:54:23.280 --> 00:54:27.200 like it was a month long yeah I could have guessed at least two or three weeks 00:54:27.200 --> 00:54:32.640 yeah so we had an all-hands this week and I was I was the one of the quarterly 00:54:32.640 --> 00:54:36.640 speakers it was mine and Yvonne's turn from the exact team to to speak in 00:54:36.640 --> 00:54:39.760 addition to sort of tearing giving opening closing remarks and our point 00:54:39.760 --> 00:54:46.760 thank you thank you very much I drew our building on fire and my point was 00:54:46.880 --> 00:54:52.280 there's a lot of headwinds coming for us and so what we should just give up so 00:54:52.280 --> 00:54:57.120 it was kind of a it was kind of a little talk about resilience for the team and 00:54:57.120 --> 00:55:01.200 in both directions you know talking about the resilience we're gonna need to 00:55:01.200 --> 00:55:06.960 have going forward and also celebrating the resilience that we have shown over 00:55:06.960 --> 00:55:12.120 the last realistically the last few years which have has involved a hyper 00:55:12.120 --> 00:55:20.240 growth phase and a shrink phase and then a more gradual reclawing our way back 00:55:20.240 --> 00:55:26.200 to where we were phase and and I took a little bit of time to to shout out some 00:55:26.200 --> 00:55:33.480 of the teams that have been essential for that for that kind of I don't I don't 00:55:33.480 --> 00:55:37.880 know what to I don't know what to call it other than just like like a getting 00:55:37.880 --> 00:55:46.200 back on track right like LTT I think I had said was within like 15 percent 10 00:55:46.200 --> 00:55:52.760 percent within 10 percent of of where views were like sort of last July last 00:55:52.760 --> 00:55:58.160 June last July the overall company like the entire portfolio I think was in was 00:55:58.160 --> 00:56:04.080 within like 15 or 20 percent viewership wise Floatplane massive massive shout 00:56:04.080 --> 00:56:09.280 out to the Floatplane team to the social teams so Sammy if you if you floaters 00:56:09.280 --> 00:56:14.280 are watching all those exclusive Sammy's killing it man crushing I've really 00:56:14.280 --> 00:56:19.040 been crushing it the Floatplane content and and you and you know I mean like 00:56:19.040 --> 00:56:22.360 Sammy doesn't operate in a vacuum you know you got to give no you got to give 00:56:22.360 --> 00:56:28.600 credit to the behind-the-scenes folks right like obviously there's there's the editors you know the community management like chewy there's the guys that are 00:56:28.600 --> 00:56:32.080 working on strategy from the business team that are helping with all this stuff 00:56:32.080 --> 00:56:36.000 yeah huge shout-out business team but basically like every team it's kind of 00:56:36.000 --> 00:56:42.640 been resilient was was what I what I had wanted to talk about and I forget where 00:56:42.640 --> 00:56:47.320 I started on all of this do does anyone remember what the question was I don't 00:56:47.320 --> 00:56:52.560 think I remember anymore Dan do you still hold meme stocks oh yeah right yeah I 00:56:52.560 --> 00:56:56.320 don't remember how I got here but anyway the team is amazing and thank you all 00:56:56.480 --> 00:57:03.240 right Floatplane is back almost up to 40,000 yeah 40,000 members which is 00:57:03.240 --> 00:57:09.480 pretty nuts kind of unbelievable yeah you know if you think about it because 00:57:09.480 --> 00:57:16.920 that we we spiked up that high because of the the YouTube hack and then we you 00:57:16.920 --> 00:57:20.120 know we thought it was gonna decline after the YouTube hack because it was 00:57:20.120 --> 00:57:24.600 such a crazy spike and we thought that people were at least some of the people 00:57:24.600 --> 00:57:29.720 coming in had no long-term intentions even before they saw the platform we 00:57:29.720 --> 00:57:35.400 were hoping that some of them were gonna see it and be like oh it's actually pretty cool I'm gonna stay that did seem to happen to a surprisingly large 00:57:35.400 --> 00:57:38.800 percentage of them but some people were just gonna naturally naturally fade out 00:57:38.800 --> 00:57:47.600 but to be back up to near YouTube hack levels is like whoa pretty nuts do you 00:57:47.600 --> 00:57:50.640 remember why I was talking about the all hands cuz I don't I got distracted by 00:57:50.640 --> 00:57:56.320 the fact that I thought that that was like a month ago no okay cool well anyway 00:57:56.320 --> 00:58:00.920 oh we you you were talking about how the company doesn't need the money oh yeah 00:58:00.920 --> 00:58:07.920 framework yeah okay so the framework thing yeah how did that how did that 00:58:07.920 --> 00:58:11.680 figure into that I don't know because we're talking about investments you were 00:58:11.680 --> 00:58:15.120 talking about how you you could try to sell we were talking about you do you 00:58:15.120 --> 00:58:18.920 know the valuation of your investment oh yeah no I have no idea yeah I have no 00:58:18.920 --> 00:58:22.920 idea and and it doesn't matter all right and it doesn't matter because I was 00:58:22.920 --> 00:58:28.680 talking to the team about how like we're kind of back baby yeah we had two 00:58:28.680 --> 00:58:34.680 separate threads to I saw this with a bunch of upvotes I think it was either I 00:58:34.680 --> 00:58:39.880 think it was last week on the subreddit that were like yo have you been just like 00:58:39.880 --> 00:58:46.320 really enjoying the content lately and people were like yeah it's been it's been 00:58:46.320 --> 00:58:52.520 and you know what it's been it's been really heartening for the team like 00:58:52.520 --> 00:59:00.440 today I I read out what I thought was just a really cool comment on on one of 00:59:00.440 --> 00:59:05.400 Ploof's recent videos what was it oh yeah I know what you're talking about you do 00:59:05.400 --> 00:59:08.760 I think I know the comment you're talking about yeah you do how could you 00:59:08.760 --> 00:59:13.080 possibly know this this did you did you read through Chewie's oh no you social 00:59:13.320 --> 00:59:18.880 sent me a comment oh no it's a different one so this was on almost nobody else has 00:59:18.880 --> 00:59:25.360 the world's best TV and they go this channel is running on all cylinders 00:59:25.360 --> 00:59:29.040 again the creativity of the skits the edgy jokes the efficient means of 00:59:29.040 --> 00:59:32.760 delivering useful information the creation of a culture for tech LTT is 00:59:32.760 --> 00:59:36.480 putting out some great stuff lately Linus seems like he's in a flow state it's 00:59:36.480 --> 00:59:40.160 good to see honestly I hope you continue to create a reputation for quality 00:59:40.160 --> 00:59:46.400 transparency and fun you guys are killing it that doesn't happen with Linus 00:59:46.400 --> 00:59:51.880 in a flow state right like that happens when you've got resilience that happens 00:59:51.880 --> 00:59:57.920 when you've got people working hard caring a lot and just kind of and just 01:00:01.240 --> 01:00:06.520 getting it done that doesn't mean that you have to like be in like a like a 01:00:06.560 --> 01:00:12.000 frantic like you know horrible state all the time it means it means focusing on 01:00:12.000 --> 01:00:16.800 what we need to be doing and not allowing yourself to get distracted by by 01:00:16.800 --> 01:00:22.040 negativity or by by things that don't matter you know by by little details 01:00:22.040 --> 01:00:26.880 important stuff unimportant details well as well as when generally when 01:00:26.880 --> 01:00:31.560 commenters make comments like Linus feels like he's in a flow state or input 01:00:31.560 --> 01:00:36.080 pretty much anyone else's public facing name it's really what I think they're 01:00:36.120 --> 01:00:39.720 generally saying not always obviously but what they're generally saying is like 01:00:39.720 --> 01:00:43.920 the the personification of this person which is a bunch of people in the 01:00:43.920 --> 01:00:48.480 company in a trench coat is doing well if that makes sense yeah like the this 01:00:48.480 --> 01:00:53.600 person and the supporting teams around them are doing well and to be clear not 01:00:53.600 --> 01:00:58.520 everything is perfect no right like we're not never will be we're not perfect 01:00:58.520 --> 01:01:03.000 not everything is going according to plan and nope we still make mistakes 01:01:03.000 --> 01:01:08.280 sometimes yep like I think we called a Ryzen seven a Ryzen five or 01:01:08.280 --> 01:01:14.400 something like that core ultra five two eight five K which is not its name yeah 01:01:14.400 --> 01:01:18.640 yep and I also misspoke at the beginning of video where I was like AMD 01:01:18.640 --> 01:01:26.880 doesn't really make Ryzen fives and Ryzen threes anymore we were literally reviewing a Ryzen five my point was AMD doesn't really make low-end chips in 01:01:26.880 --> 01:01:31.800 their current generation anymore they just like don't bother when the earlier 01:01:31.800 --> 01:01:37.240 rising generations AMD brought their latest tech they brought their a game to 01:01:37.240 --> 01:01:40.760 budget consumers and now they just don't do it I misspoke I said Ryzen five and 01:01:40.760 --> 01:01:45.640 Ryzen three when what I meant was Ryzen three and a very limited lineup of 01:01:45.640 --> 01:01:48.800 Ryzen fives because they've just kind of hollowed out their low end and I'm 01:01:48.800 --> 01:01:53.080 I'm sorry I'm sorry it doesn't change my point and yeah I should make sure that 01:01:53.080 --> 01:01:56.440 we're actually you know saying the right words at the right times in the right 01:01:56.440 --> 01:02:05.040 order but yeah I think we're I think we're doing a lot right overall and I 01:02:05.040 --> 01:02:09.160 think that there's definitely going to be some some some tweaks for us to 01:02:09.160 --> 01:02:14.000 continue to make I think that having the having like the leadership team in to 01:02:14.000 --> 01:02:17.840 kind of help focus on the business things that need to be done so that I can 01:02:17.840 --> 01:02:23.640 do what I do best which is focus on the content has overall been a very good 01:02:23.640 --> 01:02:27.800 thing even though it's been it's been a learning curve it's been a learning 01:02:27.800 --> 01:02:33.600 curve I had honestly yeah man whatever I might as well just say I had I had a you 01:02:33.600 --> 01:02:35.800 know 01:02:38.960 --> 01:02:45.480 somewhat short conversation with another member of the leadership team this 01:02:45.480 --> 01:02:52.680 morning you know this morning yep we we kind of we kind of chatted through you 01:02:52.680 --> 01:02:59.840 know what what my expectations were in about a certain thing and like what 01:02:59.840 --> 01:03:06.280 their expectations were and how we both probably didn't meet each other's 01:03:06.280 --> 01:03:12.720 expectations in a way that was conducive to putting forward the best work that 01:03:12.720 --> 01:03:18.600 we both could together and it was constructive that's good but that's a 01:03:18.600 --> 01:03:25.360 thing is nobody's perfect yeah nobody's perfect yeah I speaking of the 01:03:25.360 --> 01:03:28.360 nobody's perfect thing like like I said we're always gonna make mistakes as a 01:03:28.360 --> 01:03:32.480 company there's always gonna be you know I don't know we're gonna do our best it 01:03:32.480 --> 01:03:36.000 needs to be better than it is right now but there's always gonna be some line 01:03:36.000 --> 01:03:42.280 here that you know all core ultra five there's always gonna be that in every 01:03:42.280 --> 01:03:47.160 once in a while like it's nobody's perfect right but community wanted that 01:03:47.160 --> 01:03:52.080 from us for a while so I've I've been in this honestly toxic habit of checking 01:03:52.080 --> 01:03:59.120 the LTT subreddit once every couple days in this like what thing is being a 01:03:59.120 --> 01:04:05.040 why are we being called demonic entities this time and it's been a nice shift in 01:04:05.040 --> 01:04:10.400 the last few months where it's just actually like lol some meme or like hey 01:04:10.400 --> 01:04:16.040 this video is pretty cool and it's like oh we're not evil well I think by and 01:04:16.040 --> 01:04:21.320 large they figured out that's great they figured out that we're like mostly 01:04:21.320 --> 01:04:27.880 trying it's just it was yeah yeah it's it's a lot nicer and I'm you know again 01:04:27.880 --> 01:04:34.400 I'm not expecting people to not give constructive or critical feedback when 01:04:34.400 --> 01:04:39.400 there is constructive or critical feedback to give etc it was it was 01:04:39.400 --> 01:04:47.640 popular and welcomed and praised to crap on us for like a year oh it still is in 01:04:47.640 --> 01:04:51.520 some places depending where you go to be fair yeah it's like it's kind of 01:04:51.520 --> 01:04:55.920 comical at this point cuz like yeah there are there are certain do you have any 01:04:55.920 --> 01:04:59.200 idea what other kinds of entities there are in the world that you could direct 01:04:59.200 --> 01:05:04.800 this energy at like are you even are you even trying to find something to be 01:05:04.800 --> 01:05:08.840 legitimately angry about at this point are you just like have you ever thought 01:05:08.880 --> 01:05:17.840 about food some random yeah oh man yeah I looked at what goes in your food oh wow 01:05:17.840 --> 01:05:23.280 have you ever looked into palm oil you know like do you know what canola oil 01:05:23.280 --> 01:05:30.680 stands for no um look this up recently 01:05:31.680 --> 01:05:43.400 there's a touch it's actual name but now it's like Canada oil or something 01:05:43.400 --> 01:05:50.960 away yeah I think you made that up canola oil get its name it stands for 01:05:50.960 --> 01:05:58.400 Canada oil low acid no way yeah a name created by a Canadian industry group of 01:05:58.440 --> 01:06:02.720 rapeseed oil product producers the canola plant is a type of rapeseed that 01:06:02.720 --> 01:06:06.040 is low in two compounds that when removed makes his oil healthier and tastes 01:06:06.040 --> 01:06:09.880 better probably because saying the name of the seed just sucks why would they 01:06:09.880 --> 01:06:16.320 come up with something yeah that makes sense made out of orphan killing plant 01:06:16.320 --> 01:06:21.680 yeah I want to rename that first maybe we should go back to the marketing 01:06:21.680 --> 01:06:31.680 table you know I would get renamed super fast very quickly it's gonna oil you 01:06:31.680 --> 01:06:38.440 in the mouth whoa whoa let's let's rename that yeah let's rename that but we 01:06:38.440 --> 01:06:42.720 oil into some announcements and yeah is that what we're supposed to be doing did 01:06:42.720 --> 01:06:46.840 we do two merge messages we did one merge message for 45 minutes and now we're 01:06:46.880 --> 01:06:50.960 gonna do the announcements and then probably move on to another topic oh wow 01:06:50.960 --> 01:06:57.920 okay okay I can see the reddit threads now we're already back to being evil 01:06:57.920 --> 01:07:08.920 again yeah it's an it's a new our word um so why why don't you grab okay I think 01:07:08.920 --> 01:07:16.560 it's time to relax and get cozy we went all in on making your 01:07:16.880 --> 01:07:22.720 new favorite hoodie the aptly named super soft hoodie it's made of a butry 01:07:22.720 --> 01:07:27.360 smooth fabric that our fashion team absolutely fell in love with along with 01:07:27.360 --> 01:07:33.120 a brushed fleece inside that feels luxuriously soft it also features a 01:07:33.120 --> 01:07:37.840 custom big chunk draw cord with an LTT logo engraved in the end that adds a 01:07:37.840 --> 01:07:41.520 nice little accent hold on I'm gonna go to the Luke cam you want to show them the 01:07:41.520 --> 01:07:48.160 big chunk no too comfy oh my god okay he's really gonna be like that about it 01:07:48.160 --> 01:07:51.560 which I wasn't even paying attention to the big chunk draw cord oh these are 01:07:51.560 --> 01:07:57.080 sweet yeah sure yeah there's the big so they're like actually huge yeah like the 01:07:57.080 --> 01:08:00.120 the metal at the end is it's she's strong she's strong we have do we have an 01:08:00.120 --> 01:08:04.640 example of like a normal sweater I don't know because these are actually like I 01:08:04.640 --> 01:08:08.440 have big hands big fingers that's my finger next to it yeah they're chunky 01:08:09.000 --> 01:08:14.640 you'll have to take my word for it and of course we have a nice soft kanga pocket 01:08:14.640 --> 01:08:19.160 to stick your hands into and something that we go out of our way to add on our 01:08:19.160 --> 01:08:22.680 hoodies a more secure pocket for your phone or earbuds you want to show them 01:08:22.680 --> 01:08:26.640 our classic phone pocket there it is basically we wanted to make a hoodie 01:08:26.640 --> 01:08:29.800 that you didn't even have to think twice about throwing on we even chose a 01:08:29.800 --> 01:08:34.480 color that works with just about any outfit like if you throw the tech bro 01:08:34.480 --> 01:08:39.440 vest on top of this guy you're looking snazzy and warm oh okay he's gonna do 01:08:39.440 --> 01:08:47.120 that it's available now at LMG.gg slash super soft which this is apparently a 01:08:47.120 --> 01:08:52.480 thing I had to get educated this is a thing huh okay people wore vest over 01:08:52.480 --> 01:08:56.000 sweaters okay yeah it's called a sweater vest what are you an idiot no it's not 01:08:56.000 --> 01:08:59.200 it's not called that sweater vest is a thing it's a vest that's a sweater so 01:08:59.200 --> 01:09:03.840 yeah tech tech bro he's gonna be boiling in like four seconds I'm going to overheat 01:09:03.920 --> 01:09:07.200 he'll wear it for as long as he can and die yeah we're in the studio we're under 01:09:07.200 --> 01:09:10.560 the lights it's not it's not a good time for a warm boy like Luke to be wearing 01:09:10.560 --> 01:09:16.240 something like that how quickly do you think Emma will steal this oh were you 01:09:16.240 --> 01:09:21.600 there Dan will it even make it inside the door the second I even felt it I 01:09:21.600 --> 01:09:25.600 told her already was here and I was like I'm going to have this for the WAN Show 01:09:25.600 --> 01:09:30.480 and then it won't be mine anymore like yeah when I get home it's gone which 01:09:30.800 --> 01:09:35.920 kind of sucks because it's actually really nice yeah got him but um anyway 01:09:35.920 --> 01:09:42.720 all right so here's the here's the photo shoot for it super cute love it it's 01:09:42.720 --> 01:09:47.680 Jenny it's like the name is quite accurate it's genuinely very there's the 01:09:47.680 --> 01:09:51.600 chunky draw cord yeah we're really proud of this one we're really happy with how 01:09:51.600 --> 01:09:56.720 this one turned out are there any other announcements Dan oh yeah they didn't 01:09:56.800 --> 01:10:01.360 include a pic of the inside on the website can you give us a close-up oh yeah 01:10:01.360 --> 01:10:05.840 yeah sure uh luke cam I mean I don't know how close we're going to be able to get 01:10:05.840 --> 01:10:12.320 to it um but it's a it's a brushed it's a brushed style yeah so not like the 01:10:12.320 --> 01:10:16.560 french terry like we've done on a lot of our other hoodies yeah there's one more 01:10:16.560 --> 01:10:24.080 announcement Elijah week plus five for five what does that mean this week is a 01:10:24.080 --> 01:10:29.840 big week on Floatplane it's not only elie week but we're releasing five float 01:10:29.840 --> 01:10:35.920 plane exclusives next week that is five videos in one week for your five dollar 01:10:35.920 --> 01:10:44.080 monthly subscription oh it says react to this oh no Dan what oh do i gotta pull 01:10:44.080 --> 01:10:49.120 something up do we have audio uh can't be worse than what we were calling canola oil 01:10:50.080 --> 01:10:53.840 uh yeah if you want to just play it i can check that's the word for it 01:10:54.400 --> 01:10:59.440 i luke i don't i don't make the rules but america will hear us if you keep saying that word 01:11:00.320 --> 01:11:05.360 america oil eagle sounds that's what they sound like 01:11:07.360 --> 01:11:12.640 is that a red-tailed hawk it's like not even an eagle i don't know uh whatever um okay what do we 01:11:12.640 --> 01:11:19.760 watch i'm playing the thing i have no audio okay i have audio okay we ready you gotta all right 01:11:19.760 --> 01:11:28.480 line us laptop here we go announcing elijah week and more i'm gonna get there it's finally my week 01:11:28.480 --> 01:11:34.080 here at Floatplane it's about damn time i get some recognition for all the hard work i put in here 01:11:34.080 --> 01:11:40.480 you can do this this is your week this is your week everyone has to do what i say this week 01:11:40.480 --> 01:11:45.440 i basically run this company yeah so what was that meeting for he just walked in and i shook his 01:11:45.440 --> 01:11:50.480 hand what's the score what did i just approve you know it's time for some big changes what are you 01:11:50.480 --> 01:11:56.160 doing with my desk just go check out these teasers i would have never gotten into it if it wasn't 01:11:56.160 --> 01:12:00.880 for watching LTT i did not get hired because of this script that's going to be the best part 01:12:00.880 --> 01:12:05.920 about this so then i got hired in logistics if elijah wins he gets a lunch given by me and 01:12:06.000 --> 01:12:10.880 pay for by the company if elijah wins he saves $25 because no one gets lunch 01:12:13.840 --> 01:12:17.280 and immediately found a spelling mistake in like the first sentence and i'm like 01:12:17.840 --> 01:12:24.480 when did tech late officially launch probably launched between like 2005 and 2024 questions 01:12:24.480 --> 01:12:29.600 about the content yeah i did i did and he still got wrong you're asking me also about the content 01:12:30.240 --> 01:12:34.720 12 years ago it's our popular videos you know that means nobody watches the 01:12:42.000 --> 01:12:43.840 yeah nobody watches the popular videos 01:12:48.320 --> 01:12:53.840 oh man so uh go ahead and subscribe on Floatplane if you guys want to check out elijah week 01:12:53.840 --> 01:12:57.360 all right Dan hit us with another merge message right no way uh we should probably get straight 01:12:57.360 --> 01:13:01.440 into sponsors everyone won't have enough time for all these lovely topics oh um all right fine 01:13:02.080 --> 01:13:06.880 the show is brought to 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01:15:37.760 is that you luke yeah and what am i doing at the top you're balancing on my head okay well 01:15:37.760 --> 01:15:41.520 yeah i just mean the face i'm making what is up with that oh you're just you're having a very good 01:15:41.520 --> 01:15:47.280 time okay it's a powerful tool that combines your notes docs and projects into one space you can even 01:15:47.280 --> 01:15:51.440 view all your files directly on the platform and keep everything synced up with storage services 01:15:51.440 --> 01:15:56.480 like dropbox or google drive and to make it easier to find your files their ai connectors feature 01:15:56.560 --> 01:16:01.600 designed to enhance searching capabilities is now in beta speaking of ai their new notion ai is a 01:16:01.600 --> 01:16:06.000 single ai tool that does it all search across notion and other apps generate docs in your own 01:16:06.000 --> 01:16:11.920 style analyze pdfs and new images and chat with you about anything it's powered by chat gpt4 and 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have other to help us get the 01:17:06.800 --> 01:17:12.160 actual okay that's actually really not fair we have some other really great dance um we have the 01:17:12.160 --> 01:17:18.080 best dance we have all the greatest dance our dance my friends call me and they're like wow you have 01:17:18.080 --> 01:17:26.960 such great dance your dance um yep yep we've got the jokes are back we've got Dan vessel 01:17:26.960 --> 01:17:32.720 Dan seagull daness imposter Dan dake 01:17:36.720 --> 01:17:40.800 uh okay so what am i doing here my am i screen sharing so this as far as my understanding goes 01:17:40.800 --> 01:17:48.800 has the generative ai paint stuff and it has the ai notepad tools all right so and that laptop is 01:17:48.800 --> 01:17:54.160 now luke's laptop so you can send it over to the the main screen already oh i understand nope nope 01:17:54.160 --> 01:18:03.360 that's mine neat new ai experiences for painting notepad okay so paint version 11.2410.28.0 yeah 01:18:03.360 --> 01:18:09.040 you couldn't have just fantastic yeah sure generative fill a powerful new creation tool 01:18:09.040 --> 01:18:16.880 designed to help make your artistic process more fun and intuitive okay now that is bliss 01:18:17.520 --> 01:18:23.440 and this is this is actually this is this is our demo right like we did this this isn't a no no this 01:18:23.440 --> 01:18:28.000 is on microsoft's website this is what no i'm just learning i'm i'm learning about it first don't 01:18:28.000 --> 01:18:34.160 learn if you don't like what was generated just press try again wow it will be available on snap 01:18:34.160 --> 01:18:41.120 dragon powered co-pilot plus pcs blah blah sign in your microsoft account etc ooh generative erase 01:18:42.560 --> 01:18:47.840 okay make it look like the object was never there very cool very cool so let's see 01:18:48.560 --> 01:18:55.120 gone let's go update the co-creator update okay notepad i don't know if i care as much about 01:18:55.120 --> 01:19:01.280 let's play around with paint it shall we luke do you want to be the this was what oh um 01:19:01.280 --> 01:19:07.120 okay so what should we what should we put in it what should we put in it uh i want to play with it 01:19:07.120 --> 01:19:13.520 get it to generate your car generate my car how the how the devil am i going to get it to do that 01:19:13.520 --> 01:19:23.280 generate the world's most flashy self-important Porsche that you can that it that it can 01:19:31.200 --> 01:19:35.200 really luke okay well we'll have to start with image creator then 01:19:36.160 --> 01:19:40.720 rather than the actual generative fill features whoops that's clicked the wrong one again 01:19:40.800 --> 01:19:48.560 okay so image creator uh man i haven't really used paint much you know lately yeah i was kind 01:19:48.560 --> 01:19:52.880 of wondering like will this feature get people to actually use paint again because i i feel like 01:19:53.520 --> 01:19:56.880 paint's kind of a bit of a dead meme so is notepad to be honest but 01:20:00.160 --> 01:20:06.320 okay so i want to push take hand with the brand wrap nice yeah that's what i drive right perfect 01:20:06.320 --> 01:20:09.520 so let's see what it comes up with i i don't i don't think it's going to come up with anything 01:20:09.520 --> 01:20:16.000 this is like a licensed you know thing potentially wow it's it needs a second here give it give it 01:20:16.000 --> 01:20:26.960 a second we're generating we're generating okay all right yeah i mean i mean yeah that's that's 01:20:26.960 --> 01:20:33.200 pretty good okay well here let's because we didn't we didn't say like yeah we didn't say the color 01:20:33.200 --> 01:20:39.680 let's say it's purple that that that's pretty good that is pretty that is pretty good that's a 01:20:39.680 --> 01:20:44.720 very strong start we didn't say it was purple we also didn't say what skin it looks like a car with 01:20:44.720 --> 01:20:51.200 a weird custom it's got kind of uh similar headlights it's missing the like cheetah tier 01:20:51.200 --> 01:20:56.480 thing a little bit it gives you porche vibes though oh yeah definitely 100 okay yeah that one that one 01:20:56.480 --> 01:21:05.600 does too okay okay sure uh okay purple um textured Damascus steel cool we're getting close yeah 01:21:05.600 --> 01:21:12.400 we're gonna be more specific brand wrap okay man that that's not bad okay so let's get our let's 01:21:12.400 --> 01:21:22.480 get our base image here and then we can and then we can do some generative fill maybe we maybe we 01:21:22.480 --> 01:21:26.480 could put a person in the thing or like make your wheels the your face 01:21:31.920 --> 01:21:36.960 okay which one do we like the best i feel like that first one's like getting kind of close 01:21:37.920 --> 01:21:42.960 i feel like this one's cooler i do feel like that one's cooler dude that that's super cool i 01:21:42.960 --> 01:21:49.600 think that one's more lower accurate you know okay all right that one's got some wacky glitches going 01:21:49.600 --> 01:21:54.240 on yeah look at this uh look at this situation here and i think the wheel is like in the headlight 01:21:54.240 --> 01:21:58.960 kind of all right okay so we're gonna we're gonna go with this guy sure or the or the cool one i 01:21:58.960 --> 01:22:02.880 just i think this one's more accurate that one's pretty sick they're both cool let's go with this 01:22:02.880 --> 01:22:08.080 one let's go with this one okay so uh okay we're gonna put you in it or should you be like crouching 01:22:08.080 --> 01:22:13.760 in front of it well i don't know luke i don't know i describe what you'd like to create uh okay so 01:22:14.480 --> 01:22:21.520 wait no this is generated our preview image creator co-creator okay well wait do i how do i uh 01:22:21.520 --> 01:22:27.360 how do i do any of this i guess i could have Dan do you know uh no i assume that what you would do 01:22:27.360 --> 01:22:31.520 is you would do a lasso like uh you've got the selection tool there if you do the drop down 01:22:31.520 --> 01:22:36.320 and then go like uh free form there we go and then like highlight something so i'm gonna i'm gonna 01:22:36.320 --> 01:22:40.960 ask to put a person like there i guess sure then generator felt if you hit the button 01:22:41.920 --> 01:22:43.360 just underneath the lasso 01:22:45.200 --> 01:22:50.080 so you could erase or generate felt wow that's nice and intuitive i just guessed 01:22:50.080 --> 01:22:58.720 yeah i do it to describe what you'd like to add like uh okay uh person's head driving this car 01:22:58.720 --> 01:23:04.000 okay sure create yeah she's uh she's cooking doing something she's cooking 01:23:04.400 --> 01:23:11.920 i feel like it's too slow to engage the children maybe not maybe not no okay part of the 01:23:15.520 --> 01:23:23.280 that could be part of the fun now it looks like they're like in the not in the driver's seat 01:23:24.560 --> 01:23:31.120 well technically i didn't say they need to be in the driver's seat they're not really in any seat 01:23:31.200 --> 01:23:39.360 i just said they need to be driving the car yeah me before coffee they're like sitting on the ARM rest 01:23:39.360 --> 01:23:45.760 kind of i need that it's a profile picture it's going to be my new team's profile picture 01:23:53.360 --> 01:23:55.600 i didn't say that he needed to be looking at the road 01:23:56.560 --> 01:24:02.400 oh he's looking at a lot of roads yeah uh okay well yeah hold on hold on let's give it 01:24:02.400 --> 01:24:06.880 let's give it another try let's give it another try okay okay hold on where's my where's my lasso 01:24:06.880 --> 01:24:17.360 here okay um so let's do a let's give her the old okay so we're gonna generate oh right right 01:24:18.080 --> 01:24:26.800 okay here we go um okay um a couple put a uh okay dinosaur made out of bread driving a 01:24:26.800 --> 01:24:36.560 typical Porsche driver in the driver's seat and his sugar baby in the passenger seat 01:24:38.160 --> 01:24:44.720 come on local fyi that's why it's slow i'm i'm embracing the stereotypes okay i'm super down what 01:24:48.160 --> 01:24:52.000 what am i looking at what was the prompt wasn't it supposed to be two people 01:24:52.960 --> 01:24:58.960 oh who is this guy it's mostly just a smear i think who is this guy i think he's kind of 01:24:58.960 --> 01:25:04.640 a pouty lip and like a giant mustache that really does look like the world's largest mustache 01:25:04.640 --> 01:25:10.000 it's cyclops oops yeah okay wait to take it back to Porsche because the heated seats don't work 01:25:10.960 --> 01:25:16.000 wow so that just i think i think the smaller lasso was definitely the play 01:25:17.680 --> 01:25:23.520 okay what what i love it i feel like a poor oh oh i want a cool hood ornament 01:25:30.080 --> 01:25:36.160 i'm sorry i'm the wealthy don't have chilled buns my buns are seat temperature 01:25:36.160 --> 01:25:46.960 okay not acceptable it's not acceptable oh website again a super cool and classy 01:25:47.760 --> 01:25:54.000 apparently there's a try again button oh yeah i probably should have used that that's a good idea 01:25:54.960 --> 01:26:01.200 so what are you doing a hood well well mm-hmm to be fair you did kind of put it in a 01:26:01.200 --> 01:26:04.400 you did circle kind of a weird spot for a hood ornament what no i wanted to be coming 01:26:04.400 --> 01:26:08.720 out of here i don't know i was kind of you circled way above yeah he's kind of she's he's 01:26:08.720 --> 01:26:14.320 kind of sitting on there i mean that you could put a hood ornament there sir i just need a second one 01:26:14.320 --> 01:26:20.720 technically on the hood whoops is it is it on the fender oh shoot i i control z and it didn't 01:26:22.160 --> 01:26:30.080 yeah i i think it's sitting kind of here yeah yeah no for sure so can i can i tell it to well here i'm 01:26:30.080 --> 01:26:34.320 co-create co-creator image create can i tell it to like get another one you know 01:26:35.920 --> 01:26:43.680 like uh here like can i just like grab this and oh hey it's still paint yep okay well no no that's 01:26:43.680 --> 01:26:50.320 fine that's fine i i i can use paint here we go what about what about second one there we go okay 01:26:50.320 --> 01:26:55.600 so so hold on i've got a plan for this though remove the background there's a plan yeah yeah yeah yeah 01:26:55.680 --> 01:27:02.320 so i'm gonna just give it the old rubber to her oh sure but yeah well oh what oh man the 01:27:03.200 --> 01:27:14.560 okay yeah here we go uh good luck with this okay but oh uh okay i think i'm about to remove 01:27:15.920 --> 01:27:18.960 something remove just removes so 01:27:18.960 --> 01:27:31.600 uh i mean you know um from far enough away you know you go pretty far you gotta go pretty far 01:27:31.600 --> 01:27:38.480 away you gotta go pretty far away from far enough away you have now hit the bird yeah well uh oh i 01:27:38.480 --> 01:27:45.840 need a license plate okay i need a license plate on the front because i um and after you license plate 01:27:45.840 --> 01:27:51.280 i think i'm officially bored yeah that's fair yeah next you get to check out notepad which 01:27:51.280 --> 01:27:57.760 would be even more exciting now i'm not doing that i can do that did you want me to do that do 01:27:57.760 --> 01:28:02.400 we have to do that i like a lot that it's local i understand it's not as good i didn't realize that 01:28:02.400 --> 01:28:06.480 it was local that doesn't seem very impressive i will someone in full plane jet said it is i don't 01:28:06.480 --> 01:28:12.960 i'm pretty sure it is this is a snapdragon yep which is so like that's cool i like local of this 01:28:12.960 --> 01:28:18.880 stuff that's awesome so even if it's not as good that's fine i mean it's pretty cool yes that that's 01:28:18.880 --> 01:28:23.760 a license plate on the car sure is that's a hood ornament it's also on the car that first face 01:28:24.400 --> 01:28:28.640 might have been a little cursed but it did kind of look like it was a guy sort of he was in the 01:28:28.640 --> 01:28:34.960 car somewhere i mean he might have had the shifter like wedged between his butt cheeks but um it's 01:28:34.960 --> 01:28:39.840 not going anywhere yeah that's safe that's it for safety yep what if you got a crash you don't want 01:28:39.840 --> 01:28:45.440 it to accidentally go backwards when you meant to go forward yeah yep that's why you got to look 01:28:45.440 --> 01:28:55.200 both ways at the same time like that guy that's right that's right yeah he's safe he's a safe driver 01:28:55.200 --> 01:28:59.840 so um notepad seriously is there anything to that is important to look at a notepad or i don't know 01:28:59.840 --> 01:29:04.000 it does like gender-driven stuff if you want to just like talk about it you can show it i don't 01:29:04.000 --> 01:29:08.960 know if it's here's what i'm curious about why are we putting development into notepad and killing 01:29:08.960 --> 01:29:13.120 wordpad why didn't we just kill notepad and make wordpad better like what was the what was the 01:29:13.120 --> 01:29:17.520 rationale here maybe someone from microsoft anyone from microsoft in the chat do you want to tell me 01:29:17.520 --> 01:29:24.880 why notepad was the focus please anyone feel like they killed the wordpad because it was probably 01:29:24.880 --> 01:29:31.280 harder to maintain you think so and then they were able to just ignore notepad because there's 01:29:31.280 --> 01:29:35.120 nothing going on so it wasn't going to break but they aren't ignoring notepad they're like making 01:29:35.600 --> 01:29:40.240 i'm saying why they why they made that decision in the past oh maybe but then 01:29:41.760 --> 01:29:48.640 people like me i know very exclusively very committed relationship style using notepad 01:29:48.640 --> 01:29:57.040 plus plus for like a decade and we'll never go back so just like wordpad i know it was i know 01:29:57.040 --> 01:30:02.240 they killed it because it was too close to word but i needed a way to open docks without yeah 01:30:02.240 --> 01:30:08.400 having word like they're just pushing me straight into the arms of google for one time in the last 01:30:08.400 --> 01:30:13.760 12 years i've had to open a word document i don't have word installed i have no reason to have word 01:30:13.760 --> 01:30:17.440 installed i was still like be able to open this document yeah that's what wordpad was for yeah it 01:30:17.440 --> 01:30:24.080 was fine it was not bloaty it was fine open docks is a thing yeah that's fine but the only reason i 01:30:24.080 --> 01:30:29.360 don't have word is because i'm just setting up this computer so i don't want to install any software 01:30:29.360 --> 01:30:34.160 i just want to open this bloody document because as the serial for the piece of software that i'm 01:30:34.160 --> 01:30:41.520 installing or something like it's just i don't know all right let's do another topic yeah so yeah 01:30:41.520 --> 01:30:48.240 ms paint it's something luke what do you want to do AMD rockets forward yeah let's do it according 01:30:48.240 --> 01:30:54.960 to mercury research AMD's desktop CPU market share has climbed 10 in the last year this has 01:30:54.960 --> 01:31:02.720 manifested most clearly in widespread reports that the ryzen 7 9800 x3d has sold out at retailers 01:31:02.720 --> 01:31:07.360 throughout europe and north america and i mean i'm not surprised if you ask anyone what CPU they 01:31:07.360 --> 01:31:14.320 should get if they're a gamer they say whatever the like best x3d chip is and that's just what it's 01:31:14.320 --> 01:31:22.400 been for a while um anyways uh they apparently sold out within minutes on amazon and best buy wow 01:31:23.040 --> 01:31:28.400 new egg has claimed that they are out of individual units of the 9800 x3d but they 01:31:28.400 --> 01:31:34.400 they are for some unexplained reason still offering the 9800 x3d plus motherboard bundles that's not 01:31:34.400 --> 01:31:38.400 an unexplained reason at all i can explain that they need to sell motherboards yep 01:31:40.480 --> 01:31:49.680 and AMD in there probably they're regretting it now um AMD in their sort of time of being 01:31:50.400 --> 01:31:57.200 necessarily pro consumer um created this expectation of their motherboard sockets lasting 01:31:57.200 --> 01:32:02.640 for a very long time so they've created this environment where they launch a new CPU and 01:32:02.640 --> 01:32:12.160 there's absolutely no accessory attach sales just new CPU's yep um so new egg's like yeah you're 01:32:12.160 --> 01:32:16.400 buying motherboard and a lot of times RAM some of their bundles have motherboards and RAM that's 01:32:16.400 --> 01:32:21.840 how they get you yeah further there have been recent reporting that AMD's data center business 01:32:21.840 --> 01:32:27.200 unit has started outselling intels for the first time in its history though this comes with some 01:32:27.200 --> 01:32:35.120 caveats roughly a billion of AMD's 3.5 billion in data center sales is accounted for by uh 01:32:35.840 --> 01:32:42.880 machine learning machine learning mi uh accelerators an area that Intel doesn't 01:32:42.880 --> 01:32:49.200 particularly compete in uh without that key one billion dollars Intel's 3.3 billion remains 01:32:49.200 --> 01:32:55.280 the top spot Intel knows i've i've heard i didn't dive into it i've heard the the the most recent 01:32:55.280 --> 01:32:59.120 gen of Intel server processors are actually quite good despite their consumer stuff being 01:33:00.160 --> 01:33:05.760 Intel knows that they have messed up um i think it would be pretty hard to not know that at this 01:33:05.760 --> 01:33:10.880 point but okay um Intel knows that they messed up in an interview with hot hardware vp of technical 01:33:10.960 --> 01:33:17.920 marketing robert halick acknowledged the launch of aerolake didn't go as planned citing a series of 01:33:17.920 --> 01:33:25.840 issues uh the company has now identified at an os level and at the BIOS level um and saying that 01:33:25.840 --> 01:33:32.960 the performance we saw in reviews to be very clear no fault of reviewers was not what we expected 01:33:33.600 --> 01:33:38.640 and not what we intended um can i interject for a moment 01:33:40.640 --> 01:33:48.080 the expectation that you're if you're referring to as not what you expected or as i've been 01:33:48.800 --> 01:33:53.360 or as i've come to know it whatever it doesn't matter the point is good i can't remember the 01:33:53.360 --> 01:33:59.920 copy past i have i have like 300 confirmed kills yeah yeah yeah you you little s*** sorry another 01:33:59.920 --> 01:34:07.200 copy past don't worry about it um the point is what are you talking about yeah that that whole line 01:34:07.200 --> 01:34:19.840 was like what if you guys didn't have partner boards and you guys can't like launch a game and like 01:34:21.040 --> 01:34:28.400 no offense to our team but compared to the kinds of engineering resources oh yeah that Intel can 01:34:28.400 --> 01:34:37.440 afford we're just a bunch of random bumble f***s playing with gaming computers like what if you 01:34:37.440 --> 01:34:46.480 guys can't contact Gigabyte or MSI or ASUS be like hey bro do you mind sending over a motherboard 01:34:46.480 --> 01:34:53.440 so we can put a CPU in it and maybe open a f***ing game and see if it like gets some FPS the the 01:34:53.440 --> 01:35:00.720 tools for evaluating this stuff they're they're all free what are you talking about to be clear i 01:35:00.720 --> 01:35:07.200 believe him i believe that this whole thing was super rushed i mean and i believe that they they 01:35:07.200 --> 01:35:12.000 absolutely didn't do the planning that they needed to execute this launch the way that they needed to 01:35:12.000 --> 01:35:21.120 execute we did not get the 265k yeah we had to go buy one after the fact which to be clear that's 01:35:21.120 --> 01:35:27.440 i can afford yeah i went i bought i bought 10 7800 x3d's or whatever it was the problem is the 01:35:27.440 --> 01:35:34.160 availability the problem is that our job is to bring you guys information about these products 01:35:34.160 --> 01:35:40.480 so that you can make an informed decision and Intel didn't beam it f***ing necessary to send us 01:35:40.480 --> 01:35:47.680 probably the most compelling chip in the entire stack so our launch day review just doesn't have 01:35:47.680 --> 01:35:58.880 any data for it over what like seriously like like bomb cost of this chip what because so many 01:35:58.880 --> 01:36:07.200 people are gonna need to buy them just send us like send us like 80 bucks worth of sand and heat 01:36:07.200 --> 01:36:12.080 spreader so we can have the numbers for the people it's really that important to you we can send it 01:36:12.080 --> 01:36:22.400 back yeah really honestly what were you thinking sending us the 245k and the 285k and not the middle 01:36:22.400 --> 01:36:34.080 of the road what were you thinking bud yeah yeah this didn't go as planned the performance we saw 01:36:34.080 --> 01:36:39.360 in reviews was not what we expected dude the last minute changes that we were getting when maybe 01:36:39.360 --> 01:36:44.880 what they expected two years ago from this launch maybe i don't know but if the if that expectation 01:36:44.880 --> 01:36:48.320 was set anytime even sort of recently like what are you talking about 01:36:58.160 --> 01:37:03.840 anyway um yeah and even notice this our own notes have despite their own aerolake launch 01:37:03.840 --> 01:37:10.960 benchmarks highlighting the new flagship losing to the 4900k 9950x and 7950x 3d 01:37:10.960 --> 01:37:18.960 and then we have links to their slides like yeah like this it was my understanding that they knew 01:37:18.960 --> 01:37:22.880 this doesn't make much sense i didn't want to talk about like meetings that we had from them but like 01:37:23.600 --> 01:37:31.920 what is this statement here we go where's uh yeah they're literally like yeah we're on par 01:37:32.000 --> 01:37:39.520 but like lower power and also we like lose at a lot of games which it's like okay but like 01:37:39.520 --> 01:37:43.600 personally i think that's fine it's just not exciting for me to buy it but like you know if 01:37:43.600 --> 01:37:47.600 you're like hey this is a massive generational change for us we didn't take as much of a step 01:37:47.600 --> 01:37:51.760 forward performance wise as we had hoped but we saved a ton on power and we're hoping that uh 01:37:51.760 --> 01:37:57.680 we're able to you know but like literally here's your slide then sure you lose in five games 01:37:57.680 --> 01:38:04.320 and you win in four like stop it three no no this one counts four percent is that a 01:38:04.320 --> 01:38:08.240 is that a plot oh they didn't make it blue all these ones are blue i don't know i don't do 01:38:10.240 --> 01:38:19.760 okay sure it's a lot of really nice praise for our graphs lately um and especially that that last 01:38:19.760 --> 01:38:24.960 video so you know shout out um yeah shout out sammy other more different sammy than the last 01:38:24.960 --> 01:38:29.680 sammy that i've shouted out today um shout out the team for making graphs that are better than 01:38:29.680 --> 01:38:36.400 Intel can make yeah boom roasted yeah because Intel is kind of a big company i mean not as 01:38:36.400 --> 01:38:42.640 big as they used to be but they're big well what what what what maybe they maybe maybe they shouldn't 01:38:42.640 --> 01:38:47.840 have cancelled and sell extreme tech upgrade maybe that was where it all went down downhill honestly 01:38:47.840 --> 01:38:51.840 that was that was the beginning of the i think the timeline of that lines up pretty well yep 01:38:51.840 --> 01:38:56.000 if they had just if they had just stuck with Intel extreme tech upgrade this never would happen 01:38:56.800 --> 01:39:03.120 yep this is then kitty says salty liners i'm not salty AMD picked it up right where they 01:39:03.120 --> 01:39:08.560 left off and uh i don't know if we've ever told AMD this but they pay more well what it was an 01:39:08.560 --> 01:39:13.120 established series by that point Intel had the benefit of that they took a risk on it yeah and 01:39:13.120 --> 01:39:18.960 then when AMD picked it up it was like well we know this is an absolute banger so uh time to pony up 01:39:18.960 --> 01:39:25.680 yeah so yeah makes sense i feel like we've always been pretty open about that yep no man i i don't 01:39:25.680 --> 01:39:32.160 know we're we're we're we're a highly transparent company and um you know some people will attack 01:39:32.160 --> 01:39:37.520 us for that they'll they'll look for points of they'll look for for gaps in the armor and they'll 01:39:37.520 --> 01:39:42.080 kind of try and try and wedge something in there and i think but i think most people i think the 01:39:42.080 --> 01:39:47.840 silent majority sees what we do and and sees what we're what we're willing to talk about 01:39:47.840 --> 01:39:52.000 and kind of goes okay yeah i think i i think i have the measure of who these guys are and what 01:39:52.000 --> 01:39:57.840 they're about and that that's the way it is i mean look i've made it very clear at every stage 01:39:57.840 --> 01:40:03.600 that i'm not friends with any of these corporations that we cover i never will be 01:40:03.600 --> 01:40:10.720 and this is transactional they want exposure on our channel exposure to our audience we clearly 01:40:10.720 --> 01:40:17.280 disclose what is paid and that's it there's your talking points it's separate from our from our 01:40:17.280 --> 01:40:23.760 opinions it's all on the on it's on the up and up uh what else do we want to talk about today 01:40:23.760 --> 01:40:33.200 oh this is so cool this is so cool youtuber iboff rcc has created a custom pcb add-on 01:40:33.840 --> 01:40:45.040 and swappable SSD modules for m-series macbooks this is so cool check this out okay uh 01:40:45.120 --> 01:40:49.360 blah blah the design isn't finalized it requires a second mac to run apple configurator to complete 01:40:49.360 --> 01:40:55.360 the setup because i don't know apple hates their customers who knows but the diy m.2 port was 01:40:55.360 --> 01:41:00.240 demonstrated to take modules up to two terabytes and hit similar speeds to apple's own soldered 01:41:00.240 --> 01:41:07.840 storage because of course it does because it's all just hooked up to PCIe anyway these days because 01:41:07.840 --> 01:41:13.760 that's what everybody's using for everything and this distinction between oh special apple SSD 01:41:13.760 --> 01:41:19.360 and other more different SSD is completely unnecessary other than so that they can sell you 01:41:19.360 --> 01:41:27.680 an SSD upgrade for 200 for like 19 dollars worth of nand um anyway iboff found that strangely the 01:41:27.680 --> 01:41:31.440 macbook requires the SSD to be installed in order for the battery to charge which they said was just 01:41:31.440 --> 01:41:35.760 another reason why the SSD should be replaceable currently apple charges the same amount for two 01:41:36.320 --> 01:41:42.880 16 gigs RAM slash 256 gig storage mac mini as it does for a single mac mini with twice the amount 01:41:42.880 --> 01:41:47.680 of RAM and storage so literally it's costing you twice as much to just upgrade the RAM and storage 01:41:49.040 --> 01:41:55.120 as an entire machine with half as much RAM and storage now this is cool uh curiously there was a 01:41:55.120 --> 01:42:02.000 that the posts about that had a lot of traction curiously it seems that the new m4 mac mini does 01:42:02.000 --> 01:42:07.440 have a single removable storage module however mac rumors notes that it's likely that the controller 01:42:07.440 --> 01:42:12.400 for the storage is still embedded in the soc limiting diy upgrade and repair similar modules 01:42:12.400 --> 01:42:16.800 have been found in the mac studio and the mac pro anyway i just want to i just want to show this this 01:42:16.800 --> 01:42:30.000 is so cool i hate that this innovation which is super cool is necessary i don't understand why 01:42:30.000 --> 01:42:37.920 apple hates their customers so much and i don't understand why their customers continue to bend 01:42:37.920 --> 01:42:43.600 over and take it and be happy about it but the modding is really cool and i've enjoyed that 01:42:43.600 --> 01:42:47.840 on this show and in the last show we've been able to highlight some cool community 01:42:48.880 --> 01:42:52.480 modders that are finding ways oh sorry sorry sorry his mod was on the mac book that's the 01:42:52.480 --> 01:42:56.160 mac mini replaceable module from apple sorry sorry sorry sorry sorry oh that was the wrong 01:42:56.160 --> 01:43:05.920 pick i was showing hold on hold on i'll find it my bad you guys i have something to go over when 01:43:05.920 --> 01:43:11.040 you after you find that no i thought that didn't look right i hadn't seen the uh i hadn't seen the 01:43:11.040 --> 01:43:19.360 m4 mac thing yet you muted me yeah you played that audio oh yeah yeah i i hadn't seen the i hadn't 01:43:19.360 --> 01:43:23.280 seen the m4 mac mini one yet but i thought that man that's not what the thing looked like is it yeah 01:43:23.280 --> 01:43:30.880 here it is dude so cool so you guys got to go watch this uh here Dan do you want to throw the 01:43:30.880 --> 01:43:34.640 throw the link in everything but Floatplane chat i'll throw it in Floatplane chat 01:43:35.680 --> 01:43:44.080 bookmark this go watch it later dude how cool is that yeah love it sick i'll check that out yeah 01:43:45.200 --> 01:43:50.400 okay you brought up our graphs looking nice i mean you thought they were better than intels 01:43:50.400 --> 01:43:54.480 well i mean it's not that i think they're better than you said it's that Intel hates their graphs 01:43:54.480 --> 01:43:58.960 aggressively they're unhappy that we're better at Intel everything that Intel does that we also do 01:43:59.920 --> 01:44:06.400 kidding um can my iphone just like chill out and stop interfering with my mic yeah um okay 01:44:07.280 --> 01:44:10.960 i think i'm done with the iphone i'm wondering yeah when are you switching off you said i shot 01:44:10.960 --> 01:44:19.600 the video today oh yeah video shot um okay witness i'm interested you got some you got some silver 01:44:19.600 --> 01:44:26.080 spray paint yeah yeah i am interested in your thoughts in how much this adds or doesn't add to 01:44:26.160 --> 01:44:29.680 the video okay all right okay 01:44:33.280 --> 01:44:38.800 did you see no watch keep watching keep watching keep watching wait for the next one he's i'm 01:44:38.800 --> 01:44:46.080 sure he's just talking right now yeah whoa you see what do you think if it's very little work 01:44:46.080 --> 01:44:48.560 what are your thoughts then it's super cool whoa 01:44:49.280 --> 01:44:56.560 yeah if it's very much work do you think would be defined as very little work 01:44:57.840 --> 01:45:04.720 um like having the basically having the graph the anime like this one so the phone that we're 01:45:04.720 --> 01:45:10.960 actually talking about gets like kind of inserted in yeah like that so here's my thing um i think 01:45:10.960 --> 01:45:17.600 if you have a video that has i would say less than half a dozen graphs then by all means spend the 01:45:17.600 --> 01:45:22.960 extra 15 minutes that it'll take to do this to each one or five minutes or whatever it is 01:45:24.160 --> 01:45:27.840 if you have a video that's like a CPU review and there's 20 30 graphs 01:45:29.440 --> 01:45:33.600 i forbid it the reason why i'm asking is basically when when Labs is exporting 01:45:35.200 --> 01:45:38.560 graphs and charts and stuff it would be exported in a different format 01:45:39.440 --> 01:45:44.720 because it's like okay do we export the ai file so it's modifiable by the editor 01:45:44.800 --> 01:45:46.480 or do we export just like a png 01:45:51.760 --> 01:45:54.800 i think it looks pretty nice i think it looks pretty nice when you're saying when there's 01:45:54.800 --> 01:46:00.000 when there's like like the the the most recent CPU video that we did yep like the amount of 01:46:00.000 --> 01:46:04.560 graphs that were in this that could get that could get cumbersome i could see that and the 01:46:04.560 --> 01:46:11.120 thing is that there's probably a lot there's also a lot of lines i'd say a solid 75 percent of the 01:46:11.120 --> 01:46:16.560 time on LTT and i'm going to bring up your laptop here i'd say a solid 75 percent of the time on 01:46:16.560 --> 01:46:22.080 LTT when we're uploading a really graph heavy video it's an embargo video yes we're pushing we are 01:46:22.080 --> 01:46:27.760 time constrained we're already we're already crunching yeah so if you tell me yeah we're 01:46:27.760 --> 01:46:32.240 going to add something unnecessary we're going to animate it we're going to make it pretty we're 01:46:32.240 --> 01:46:38.000 going to make it shiny i'm going to say give me a really really good reason and i'm sorry but pretty 01:46:38.000 --> 01:46:45.040 is not a good enough reason in this case i don't think that um i don't think that i see a clear 01:46:45.040 --> 01:46:52.400 enough benefit now if your team can figure out how all of that just happens automatically and 01:46:52.400 --> 01:46:58.560 there's some kind of like slick web interface for file or whatever where you just kind of say like 01:46:58.560 --> 01:47:03.520 highlight this one and then it just like runs a magic behind the scenes animation thing or 01:47:03.520 --> 01:47:07.760 something i don't i don't know this is the one of importance so it does some yeah i don't know 01:47:07.760 --> 01:47:11.920 we can explore that type of stuff that is not what that looked like to me that looked like that 01:47:11.920 --> 01:47:15.520 wasn't i don't believe that was that that looked like after effects or something like that i don't 01:47:15.520 --> 01:47:22.560 know yeah yeah i'm i'm not sure exactly what they used for that keep the file um the only like 01:47:22.560 --> 01:47:27.920 honestly and the other thing too is like there's a little bit of a fitting if it ain't broke don't 01:47:28.000 --> 01:47:34.560 fix it in in my response as well people are super happy with this there's things that i would do 01:47:34.560 --> 01:47:43.920 differently um i prefer a highlight compared to a dot at the end i prefer a box i vastly prefer a 01:47:43.920 --> 01:47:48.640 box a red wireframe box i don't i don't want to actually highlight it i want it to be around it 01:47:48.640 --> 01:47:55.120 but i was told that the audience largely preferred the dot even though for me the dot is much more 01:47:55.120 --> 01:48:02.800 difficult to track because it moves in multiple on multiple axes yeah um but you know this is a 01:48:02.800 --> 01:48:07.440 this is one of those cases where i'm not just going to i'm not just going to impose my will 01:48:07.440 --> 01:48:15.920 because at the end of the day who's our boss audience to just knocking down what i'm setting up 01:48:15.920 --> 01:48:19.680 do you know how to say anything yeah you'll just he'll you'll just knock down everything you know 01:48:19.680 --> 01:48:26.880 what fine i'm gonna give the hints anyway it's not me and it's not taren there go ahead you can do it 01:48:26.880 --> 01:48:36.800 again it's Dan it's the audience i'm not liking the projections of where we're going i want more 01:48:36.800 --> 01:48:45.280 luke huh more luke in videos huh uh huh um i'm down put me in coach 01:48:47.440 --> 01:48:56.640 i'm gonna strike the wancho okay yeah anyway um yeah no i yeah it's it's cool but i just don't 01:48:56.640 --> 01:49:03.600 i just don't see the um man what would i compare this to that i mean that Mac Address video only 01:49:03.600 --> 01:49:08.880 had like three guys well that's the thing so yeah it's okay yeah it's like i could see on a more 01:49:08.880 --> 01:49:15.440 like lifestyle channel they're also really early in the video mm-hmm so that's that's something that 01:49:15.440 --> 01:49:21.680 you guys will now that i'm gonna say it you're gonna notice it we make much heavier investments 01:49:21.680 --> 01:49:29.760 in yeah like you have to more expensive shots locations props um editing in the first like 01:49:29.760 --> 01:49:36.560 few minutes of a video compared to what we're willing to do toward the end we aren't operating on 01:49:36.560 --> 01:49:42.160 the kinds of budgets that someone like uh you know a mr beast might or whatever so that every every 01:49:42.160 --> 01:49:47.760 second of the video is designed with the expectation that you you will be watching it and you must 01:49:47.760 --> 01:49:53.440 continue to watch it we're just it's it's like yeah realistically not everyone is going to be into 01:49:53.440 --> 01:49:59.280 this server network card so we'll do everything we can to hook you and if it doesn't work it doesn't 01:50:00.160 --> 01:50:05.280 work we're kind of okay with that protect the server network card from incoming hackers and 01:50:05.280 --> 01:50:14.240 win a million dollars the server network card is in a pit the pit is full of snakes oh there's a 01:50:14.240 --> 01:50:23.200 train coming what are you gonna do the train's on fire this is just tech support saw now i don't 01:50:23.200 --> 01:50:28.320 even watch mr beast videos all of that guessing is just from his thumbnails oh yeah absolutely 01:50:29.120 --> 01:50:36.800 oh boy uh files are stored on the server it's running right now you must pull out the hard drive 01:50:36.800 --> 01:50:45.280 while it's running i hired seven xcia members to try to break into your server room can use keep them 01:50:46.000 --> 01:50:57.840 out for 24 hours maybe do i get a mini gun uh all right what are we supposed to be um 01:50:58.640 --> 01:51:02.560 i don't know we're supposed to be doing topics i guess keep doing topics until we go to after 01:51:02.560 --> 01:51:11.760 there and maybe it says a hundred hours of gaming ought to be enough for anyone wrong i mean i'm not 01:51:11.760 --> 01:51:18.080 necessarily news i'm not necessarily proud that they're wrong but they are wrong wrong and video 01:51:18.080 --> 01:51:24.160 announced a few changes to g-force now their game streaming service the majority of which were upgrades 01:51:24.160 --> 01:51:28.640 the priority membership tier has been rebranded as performance and will now have a max resolution 01:51:28.640 --> 01:51:35.440 of 1440p instead of 1080p while remaining at ten dollars a month and it also comes with an ultra 01:51:35.520 --> 01:51:41.440 wide option super cool wait a hundred hours monthly oh they're like actually wrong people are 01:51:41.440 --> 01:51:47.680 actually gonna be upset about that can you stop getting ahead of things no however both the performance 01:51:47.680 --> 01:51:55.440 tier and the 20 ultimate tier will now have a 100 hour monthly limit which luke spoiled what 01:51:56.480 --> 01:52:03.040 which NVIDIA says i'm learning about this right now it is doing to avoid global price increases 01:52:03.040 --> 01:52:12.160 because some random people are putting in 200 hours a week the limit works out to just above 01:52:12.160 --> 01:52:19.520 three hours a day which NVIDIA says accommodates 94 of their user base nonetheless some users 01:52:20.160 --> 01:52:25.360 six percent of them uh did the math for them there uh were extremely unhappy and expressed 01:52:25.360 --> 01:52:31.040 doubt that 94 of g-force now users were using it a hundred hours a month or less i have some 01:52:31.040 --> 01:52:38.720 bad news for you guys NVIDIA is probably not lying you actually have a problem you win in those gaming 01:52:38.720 --> 01:52:44.400 lobbies because you don't do anything else yeah um which isn't a problem it's okay to have a problem 01:52:44.400 --> 01:52:49.840 that's not a problem it's just you can quit you can quit anytime you want yeah NVIDIA will charge 01:52:49.840 --> 01:52:58.400 three dollars for an additional 15 hours of performance and six dollars for 15 hours of 01:52:58.400 --> 01:53:03.600 ultimate so basically you're paying a third you're paying a third of your monthly rate 01:53:04.560 --> 01:53:11.040 for how does that math work it's more expensive oh yeah it's more expensive why is it more expensive 01:53:11.040 --> 01:53:16.160 that's stupid i think it would be less expensive yeah no you think it would be more expensive 01:53:16.160 --> 01:53:19.840 because the other one is subsidized by the people who use it so little no no that makes sense 01:53:19.840 --> 01:53:24.240 yeah it would be more expensive so that's probably closer to what it actually costs them 01:53:24.240 --> 01:53:29.120 which interestingly probably gives us some insight into the actual math for how much people are 01:53:29.120 --> 01:53:38.000 actually using the service compared to um like if you if you use it so if they can afford what was 01:53:38.000 --> 01:53:45.440 it a hundred hours a month for 10 bucks and another 15 hours costs them three dollars then basically 01:53:45.440 --> 01:53:49.680 what that means is for every person who's using it a hundred hours you've got people who are barely 01:53:49.680 --> 01:53:54.240 touching it forgot about the subscription using that zero hours yeah in order to have that math 01:53:54.240 --> 01:54:00.160 work out uh oh but very very interesting plus there's some profit margin baked into both calculations 01:54:00.160 --> 01:54:11.520 probably um yep live streaming is extremely expensive none of this surprises me at all 01:54:11.520 --> 01:54:15.920 and especially when you make it like difficult live streaming it also doesn't surprise me 01:54:16.640 --> 01:54:23.040 at all that um you know now that you're locked into a subscription service that subscription 01:54:23.040 --> 01:54:32.560 service would look to alter the deal this is why we should probably you know refrain scrapyard 01:54:32.560 --> 01:54:38.720 wars uh like uh you know a mediocre pc rather than buy into a subscription service that can be 01:54:38.720 --> 01:54:43.440 yoinked on us at any time i thought you were gonna said put up the cost of a Floatplane subscription 01:54:43.520 --> 01:54:49.760 yeah yeah spend your money on Floatplane instead got them oh how much does wan cost asks 01:54:49.760 --> 01:54:55.200 luke 103 a bunch i don't think we know exactly do we oh no you do there's ways figured out i don't 01:54:55.200 --> 01:55:00.000 know i thought my head it also changes like per episode because we'll we'll stream for two hours 01:55:00.000 --> 01:55:04.960 then we'll stream for four and a half so like i'm gonna start sending it 40 meg can you cut 01:55:06.800 --> 01:55:10.560 sure actually like why don't we just do it won't make a difference to be honest 01:55:11.280 --> 01:55:18.720 twitch will freak out oh oh yeah well yeah but that's their problem it's not a problem i mean 01:55:18.720 --> 01:55:24.560 because what we receive from here oh yeah that actually doesn't oh yeah i'm sure we transcode it 01:55:24.560 --> 01:55:29.920 anyway yeah who cares garbage garbage in garbage out though less garbage in less garbage out let's 01:55:29.920 --> 01:55:36.560 do it at 8k 8k WAN Show that actually reminds me man these c200s have been absolute just tanks 01:55:36.640 --> 01:55:41.280 workhorses yeah yeah we we used to use these for like trade shows and stuff and 01:55:42.000 --> 01:55:45.280 we end up not getting a lot of use out of them there but boy have they ever been 01:55:45.280 --> 01:55:48.320 great for the WAN Show look at that we got all these camera angles it's like 01:55:52.080 --> 01:55:57.040 i've got a c100 at home uh yeah they're undestructible yeah great little cameras 01:55:57.040 --> 01:56:03.280 yeah yes i think these c200s are like eight grand a body though but you know maybe well 01:56:03.360 --> 01:56:08.560 there's no way they're worth that anymore not anymore absolutely not okay yeah i think we did 01:56:08.560 --> 01:56:15.120 pay quite a lot for them um that speaking of quite paying quite a lot for it uh the dow drops 01:56:15.120 --> 01:56:19.920 Intel Intel has been removed from its 25 year position in the dow jones industrial average 01:56:19.920 --> 01:56:25.760 i think we hinted to this last week but it has happened i guess uh the go-to benchmark to measure 01:56:25.760 --> 01:56:30.960 the health of the u.s stock market being the dow jones industrial average uh this likely indicates 01:56:30.960 --> 01:56:36.160 that the maintainers of the dow jones believe that Intel's recent struggles are skewing the average 01:56:36.160 --> 01:56:42.640 in a way not generally reflective of the market as a whole and they were like damn we can get 01:56:42.640 --> 01:56:48.480 invidion here and then they did that its position has been replaced with invidia which the s and p 01:56:48.480 --> 01:56:54.240 dow jones indicates apparently views as a more accurate reflection of the chip making sector 01:56:54.240 --> 01:56:58.080 to that i don't necessarily agree with i don't agree with that at all as much of an anomaly as 01:56:58.080 --> 01:57:02.400 Intel has been over the last little bit yeah they're just on the other end of it yeah which 01:57:02.400 --> 01:57:08.960 i understand why you want that but what you're saying just isn't true anyways um yeah discussion 01:57:08.960 --> 01:57:13.760 question uh isn't via really the company that's most reflective of the sector no 01:57:16.080 --> 01:57:23.360 nice it is a good discussion question we just got to it too early um a network along your skin 01:57:24.320 --> 01:57:28.240 researchers at Carnegie Mellon University have developed a method of transmitting 01:57:28.240 --> 01:57:36.320 40 megahertz rf energy along human skin allowing the user to remotely power extremely small wearable 01:57:36.320 --> 01:57:42.720 devices that otherwise could not fit a battery such as a patch that logs medical data whoa this 01:57:42.720 --> 01:57:49.040 power could be delivered from head to toe from a power source worn elsewhere on the body startup 01:57:49.120 --> 01:57:55.520 xana has created a prototype yr chip that uses a similar method to send bluetooth slash 01:57:55.520 --> 01:58:02.560 wi-fi signals through the body's skin thereby connecting multiple devices without broadcasting 01:58:02.560 --> 01:58:11.040 a wider potentially insecure signal this would likewise allow users to share a connection 01:58:11.520 --> 01:58:18.560 oh through skin to skin contact except like a handshake or a high five you could literally 01:58:18.560 --> 01:58:24.160 like handshake someone and like exchange contact information whoa like if you had yeah some like 01:58:24.160 --> 01:58:31.840 wearable modern handshakes isn't that cool whoa you touch people says sinful hands i mean yeah well 01:58:32.800 --> 01:58:38.480 geeks are it's kind of funny that yeah someone whose name in chat is sinful hands says you touch 01:58:38.560 --> 01:58:46.640 people just kind of works it does it works yeah you're not as on as me today i'm sorry 01:58:50.000 --> 01:58:57.040 rude so the discussion question here is what kinds of wearable devices can you imagine with this 01:58:57.040 --> 01:59:02.000 technology i mean medical ones i think are obvious we can kind of what about embedded ones too 01:59:02.880 --> 01:59:07.600 embedded in the skin well i don't know the signal goes along the skin so you'd almost have to have 01:59:07.600 --> 01:59:10.640 i mean that would be kind of cyberpunk looking right because you'd have all the contacts and 01:59:10.640 --> 01:59:15.520 traces on the surface interesting and then it's just like you know buried in your muscle somewhere 01:59:15.520 --> 01:59:20.160 whatever else like a uh man i don't know like could you could you 01:59:22.880 --> 01:59:29.440 because like if you had a heart rate monitor yeah that didn't increase the bulk along your body 01:59:30.080 --> 01:59:38.320 that could be kind of nice yeah that'd be pretty cool and neuro amp what do you guys what are you guys talking about yeah if you had a heart rate monitor 01:59:38.320 --> 01:59:46.320 that was powered through you i guess and it could maybe like uh remotely transmit to your phone or 01:59:46.320 --> 01:59:52.240 something so you could still check what it's reading be interesting i mean yeah you could say 01:59:53.440 --> 02:00:01.520 powered tattoos oh that'd be cool e-ink tattoos that would be so cool okay now people are getting 02:00:01.520 --> 02:00:07.440 me some some good ideas here imagine a tattoo that changes based on your heart rate yeah and then 02:00:08.400 --> 02:00:11.840 oh my god yeah you could have like a little display in your inner 02:00:12.960 --> 02:00:16.800 inner wrist what about earrings with lights on them dude you could have 02:00:16.800 --> 02:00:22.640 comp yeah that'd be sick you you could have complicated like tattoos yeah reveal different 02:00:22.640 --> 02:00:29.120 details based on other powered jewelry or like oh man you dude you could have so you could have 02:00:29.200 --> 02:00:34.720 like a necklace that like changes color with your mood except actually you know not like those like 02:00:34.720 --> 02:00:38.400 cheap mood rings or whatever actually based on something that is like actually based on like 02:00:38.400 --> 02:00:43.920 your anxiety level and stuff like that like and and sure yeah the privacy issues you know people 02:00:43.920 --> 02:00:49.840 would do it you know you know people would do it internal cardiac monitors dude this is so cool 02:00:50.720 --> 02:00:56.240 i mean my thought is like i'm just surreptitiously touching the back of your neck and stealing all 02:00:56.240 --> 02:01:00.560 your data and stuff like that right they're like Dan i shake your hand and i gotta go there with it 02:01:01.360 --> 02:01:07.200 who you don't even have the courage to show your face telling us all your ideas about stealing 02:01:07.200 --> 02:01:11.680 other people's data and you can't okay the other is apparently this is a thing already internal 02:01:11.680 --> 02:01:16.000 cardiac monitors yeah i think so implantable loop recorders put them in your heart because they 02:01:16.000 --> 02:01:21.280 just run on like super super long life batteries yeah i guess um but but this the cool thing about 02:01:21.280 --> 02:01:25.760 it is that you're doing networking and power just over the skin so you just have like a little pack 02:01:26.800 --> 02:01:30.560 on your wrist like where a watch would be and it could just power and communicate 02:01:30.560 --> 02:01:34.560 as almost like a like a smart home hub like a smart body hub what if it's in your back pocket 02:01:34.560 --> 02:01:40.560 and then you just sit down on a wireless charging chair whoa yeah but charging whoa 02:01:42.480 --> 02:01:46.320 i mean that would probably be actually a really good idea so is that like a small penalty 02:01:48.000 --> 02:01:55.440 like if they if the center gets attacked if the quarterback just like runs into the center 02:01:56.240 --> 02:02:03.280 what are we talking about 02:02:06.000 --> 02:02:11.200 anyways um steam moving on yeah steam recording super cool feature 02:02:13.040 --> 02:02:17.200 um steam is officially launched built-in game recording which allows gamers to record their 02:02:17.200 --> 02:02:22.400 sessions without using a second app players can start a recording manually or set it to start 02:02:22.400 --> 02:02:26.160 automatically and there are likewise options to restrict the length quality and storage space 02:02:26.160 --> 02:02:31.520 that steam can use these settings can be configured differently for each game however the accessibility 02:02:31.520 --> 02:02:36.160 of these recording options and the broader audience of steam users might cause problems 02:02:36.160 --> 02:02:42.160 for users who are less familiar with things like SSD degradation as pointed out by u slash 02:02:42.160 --> 02:02:48.320 crash underscore spec tekel steam game recording has a max write rate of 50 megabits per second 02:02:48.320 --> 02:02:53.760 around 22 and a half gigabytes per hour if it was used regularly at the highest settings 02:02:53.760 --> 02:02:59.520 this could cause significant SSD degradation over time notably the highest write quality on 02:02:59.520 --> 02:03:04.000 NVIDIA's own recording feature maxes out at 150 megabits per second which is significantly higher 02:03:04.000 --> 02:03:10.480 but is also something that you generally um is generally a little more tech savvy to access 02:03:10.480 --> 02:03:14.320 rather than just what you know your your kids using the family computer are going to be able to 02:03:14.320 --> 02:03:19.280 figure out how to configure our discussion question is is this a realistic concern for most 02:03:19.280 --> 02:03:25.600 people and um i'm of kind of two minds on this on the one hand yes this will compare to how the 02:03:25.600 --> 02:03:31.760 average user is expected to use their pc and what SSD makers have been targeting over the last 10 02:03:31.760 --> 02:03:43.440 years with the move from slc to mlc to tlc to qlc to even plc flash um with far far less endurance 02:03:43.520 --> 02:03:48.720 as we as we move yeah to each new generation but higher capacity meaning that you're less likely 02:03:48.720 --> 02:03:52.800 to overwrite it but then now that we're going to overwrite it we've we've we've been building 02:03:52.800 --> 02:03:57.440 toward we've been building products for this paradigm where people are like kind of occasionally 02:03:58.000 --> 02:04:03.040 copying some footage or downloading a new game but generally speaking are barely even 02:04:03.040 --> 02:04:08.720 hotching their drive which is pretty accurate for rights yeah and then we're adding we're 02:04:08.720 --> 02:04:13.920 throwing this into the mix i think i do think that people who didn't think they needed a premium 02:04:13.920 --> 02:04:18.480 drive with better endurance are going to suddenly find out oh i do i do need a premium drive with 02:04:18.480 --> 02:04:24.400 better endurance however the other side of me wants to point out that it's been studied a 02:04:24.400 --> 02:04:30.720 couple of times small sample sizes unfortunately so i don't know how reliable and how trustworthy it 02:04:30.720 --> 02:04:34.640 is but it's been looked at a couple of times by i forget which publications have done it 02:04:34.640 --> 02:04:39.920 where they've done endurance tests on SSD's and found that in general they actually last 02:04:39.920 --> 02:04:46.160 way longer than what they're rated for pretty good yeah so i also you when i use uh shadow play i 02:04:46.160 --> 02:04:53.840 just write to my hard drive sorry just gotta move my leg there we go but yeah yeah you should 02:04:53.840 --> 02:04:58.560 probably just use a hard drive for this yeah in a nas ideally but most people most people don't have 02:04:58.560 --> 02:05:04.720 a nas i mean they're really there really hasn't been like a nas a diy nas software that is easy 02:05:04.720 --> 02:05:11.600 enough to use that uh oh wait for it that just anyone who could build their own pc could just 02:05:11.600 --> 02:05:15.920 install it and be good to go and could figure everything and i gotta come up all the shares 02:05:15.920 --> 02:05:20.080 just work out that's that's the one that hopefully theoretically i just invested in proxmox 02:05:20.320 --> 02:05:26.560 oh yeah sure that's easy and approachable for every man yeah yeah yeah 02:05:30.320 --> 02:05:35.200 that voices dance like i am screaming inside i am also dying oh it's fine 02:05:36.640 --> 02:05:39.840 i think it's time for my voices that's sure let's go 02:05:40.560 --> 02:05:46.240 dance switching it over park pushing the buttons 02:05:48.640 --> 02:05:54.640 all right we got a lot of urch messages today oh not not too too many too many i think we're 02:05:54.640 --> 02:06:02.960 doing pretty okay um let's see hey oh dll notice the apple watch accompanying the switch to iphone 02:06:03.040 --> 02:06:11.680 minus what do you think of it so far um considering how amped i was on smart watches at the start 02:06:11.680 --> 02:06:19.520 like i loved my pebble um i have just kind of completely fallen out of love with them 02:06:19.520 --> 02:06:26.640 and maybe it's because the product category sort of moved away from me maybe it's because 02:06:26.640 --> 02:06:34.000 i moved away from the product category like it feels like at the beginning they were about 02:06:34.000 --> 02:06:39.600 getting notifications without taking your phone out of your pocket and in some cases as they as 02:06:39.600 --> 02:06:45.760 they got a little bit more sophisticated interacting with those notifications to make them go away 02:06:45.760 --> 02:06:50.240 and and you can still do that like being able to get a text while i'm while i'm on the court at the 02:06:50.240 --> 02:06:56.160 gym or something like that and uh you know fire back a quick message uh it's fine it's good 02:06:56.800 --> 02:07:01.440 but all they're like trying to do too much all the functionality that they've added since then 02:07:01.440 --> 02:07:06.320 around you know telling me to stand up like sure yeah i can't right now i'm in the middle of i'm 02:07:06.320 --> 02:07:11.600 in the middle of podcast recording like you know like it doesn't it doesn't have the awareness 02:07:12.720 --> 02:07:17.680 to just make the the cameras the table everything we should just make everything 02:07:17.760 --> 02:07:22.720 stand yeah everything just 45 minutes sure yeah let me get let me get right on hell yeah um 02:07:23.680 --> 02:07:28.000 so all this all this extra stuff that they've added the health tracking it doesn't it's not 02:07:28.000 --> 02:07:32.160 meaningful to me i mean when i'm a senior citizen and i'm worried about you know fall detection or 02:07:32.160 --> 02:07:36.400 whatever else yeah maybe maybe i'll be more more interested in something like that but it 02:07:36.400 --> 02:07:40.960 health tracking that especially apple has been doing is really cool yeah it's really cool i think 02:07:40.960 --> 02:07:44.880 not necessarily relevant i think ploof made a really good point in his script where we were 02:07:44.880 --> 02:07:50.480 talking about their most recent event where he was like yeah it's funny how the older tim apple gets 02:07:50.480 --> 02:07:56.720 the uh the more seniors health tracking makes its way into their product it's also aging generation 02:07:56.720 --> 02:08:02.800 of a lot of western countries absolutely the most affluent generation in the united states 02:08:02.800 --> 02:08:09.920 is the baby boomers and they are they're getting older they be old they're getting older yeah so i 02:08:10.640 --> 02:08:14.160 it's nice to be able to tell the time quickly and conveniently on my wrist 02:08:14.800 --> 02:08:18.400 you can do that with a lot of things i don't like having to charge it every day that's a downer 02:08:19.440 --> 02:08:26.560 um you notice i'm not wearing it today i've just forgot to put it on and i didn't notice until 02:08:26.560 --> 02:08:32.560 someone asked me what time it was that was really the only i don't know maybe part of it is that 02:08:32.560 --> 02:08:38.720 since i first got a smartwatch i just am like on my phone a lot more and that that's that 02:08:38.800 --> 02:08:43.040 that's probably a bad thing maybe i should get in the habit of using my watch to interact with 02:08:43.040 --> 02:08:49.120 notifications if it got you off your phone more often which reduced the total phone and watch 02:08:49.680 --> 02:08:55.440 usage time then i think that there's value there yeah but if you're just replacing phone time 02:08:55.440 --> 02:09:01.280 with watch time one to one i don't see value there personally i don't use any of the other apps like 02:09:01.280 --> 02:09:08.960 to me the whole um like i am exercising right now this is the type of exercise i'm doing 02:09:10.000 --> 02:09:16.480 until you can just tell that i'm exercising with all of your advanced sophisticated measures and uh 02:09:17.200 --> 02:09:23.440 uh sensors and everything what are what are we even doing here like i it's it to me it's like 02:09:23.440 --> 02:09:29.280 counting calories like i'm i'm logging the thing that i'm eating and and that's really useful for 02:09:29.280 --> 02:09:35.040 a lot of people depending on what your goals are 100% yeah 100% depending on your goals 02:09:35.040 --> 02:09:43.840 that has a ton of value for me it has i am not even close dude i can go take something out of my 02:09:43.840 --> 02:09:49.280 freezer and think okay i need to go into my food checklist app and i need to update the 02:09:49.280 --> 02:09:53.760 inventory in the freezer and by the time i have put it down on the counter i have completely 02:09:53.760 --> 02:09:59.680 forgotten that i needed to do that expecting me to count calories or remember to like log 02:09:59.680 --> 02:10:04.880 that i'm about to start exercise it's not gonna happen the only way i was able to count calories 02:10:04.880 --> 02:10:10.880 was when i had preplanned what i was gonna eat for the entire day and i never deviated because 02:10:10.880 --> 02:10:17.600 then it was like okay well i could put in my calories for the next week you know like it's 02:10:17.680 --> 02:10:22.400 it's figured out already um someone says they really like it for sleep tracking 02:10:23.200 --> 02:10:31.040 dude if i have to the only way that i can remember to charge something is if it's overnight so 02:10:32.960 --> 02:10:37.200 yeah there's people at work here that have an apple watch charger on their desk 02:10:37.200 --> 02:10:40.880 so they'll take it off and they'll put it on the charger so that they can use it for sleep 02:10:40.880 --> 02:10:46.800 tracking i would leave my watch at work every other day 100% oh yeah there's absolutely no way 02:10:46.800 --> 02:10:51.040 that it would make it home five out of five days in a week i'd probably leave it at your house 02:10:51.040 --> 02:10:54.720 half the time i visit you oh yeah sure dude you would leave your keys at my house if you were 02:10:54.720 --> 02:10:59.600 able to leave without them like yeah 100% that would be a hilarious troll sometimes you just 02:10:59.600 --> 02:11:04.880 leave your key in your car and then just like see if you leave without your keys because i i bet you 02:11:04.880 --> 02:11:19.760 would probably all right what else we got okay let's see archive hey dll my friends and i have a 02:11:19.760 --> 02:11:25.600 long-running tradition during a LAN party on black friday every year what are some of your favorite 02:11:25.600 --> 02:11:30.960 memories games and food to have at a LAN party van galley says new watch charges so fast i literally 02:11:30.960 --> 02:11:35.120 only put it on the charger when i shower and otherwise we're at 24 seven bold of you to assume 02:11:35.120 --> 02:11:43.440 i shower every day only only exercise days which is at least every it's about two out of every three 02:11:43.440 --> 02:11:50.800 days so i'm not a complete i'm not a complete like barbarian or whatever but um yeah no my life 02:11:50.800 --> 02:11:58.960 is not routine enough for anything that doesn't fit in the very limited routines that i can manage 02:12:01.200 --> 02:12:08.000 um starcat one says shower every day man you you know you don't have to right 02:12:09.360 --> 02:12:14.000 just i'm just saying i'm just saying you and it and it's totally fine to shower every day 02:12:14.000 --> 02:12:18.240 but you also like don't have to or maybe you do which is fine 02:12:21.040 --> 02:12:27.920 i'm not judging yeah for me honestly it depends how stressed i get oh stress sweat stinks oh 02:12:27.920 --> 02:12:33.920 mine is i'm sure everyone says but i only really have experience with my mind is brutal too if i'm 02:12:33.920 --> 02:12:41.360 just chilling yep it's not a big deal slather on another layer of deodorant yeah like 02:12:41.360 --> 02:12:45.600 probably doesn't really matter if i if i have some like really serious conversations 02:12:45.600 --> 02:12:54.640 a boy i need to shower like it's not it's not an option vast a certain point yeah oh man um 02:12:54.640 --> 02:13:01.280 lan land memories games and food dude uh i think it was like cod 2 which i had never played 02:13:01.920 --> 02:13:07.840 um i got a bunch of copies of it from work because there was like a cod 2 like GPU bundle and we 02:13:07.840 --> 02:13:16.960 didn't move through them all i was like can i have some of these discs they were like okay so i showed up at this land i had like eight copies of cod 2 and we completely lost track of 02:13:16.960 --> 02:13:21.120 whatever the objective was supposed to be and we started playing this like king of the hill 02:13:21.200 --> 02:13:26.640 except it was like at the very top of this water tower and there was like over half a dozen of us 02:13:26.640 --> 02:13:31.920 so it was functionally impossible to get to the top of it i think it it happened that way because 02:13:31.920 --> 02:13:37.200 someone got up there unnoticed at some point in the match and just started like spawn sniping 02:13:37.200 --> 02:13:43.280 everybody um and we're like what the heck that's a good spot i want it and it just devolved into the 02:13:43.280 --> 02:13:48.640 the longest like completely knows there's no scorekeeping because it wasn't part of the game 02:13:48.640 --> 02:13:54.880 mode of the game but just the longest most ridiculously impossible king of the hill match 02:13:54.880 --> 02:14:00.480 those are the best that i've ever participated in custom goals custom rules all that kind of stuff 02:14:00.480 --> 02:14:06.480 those are always like the best way to play games it's it's more fun my my favorite land memory 02:14:06.480 --> 02:14:10.880 and i'm not even gonna remember it correctly because it was from so long ago but uh my birthdays 02:14:10.880 --> 02:14:16.720 when i was in high school were always land parties at my parents house and one year we went really 02:14:16.720 --> 02:14:26.000 hard on halo two custom rules versus and we if i remember correctly we we had like it was a birthday 02:14:26.000 --> 02:14:32.560 party so we we tried to go a little bit overboard and we we had people bring like couches and tvs 02:14:32.560 --> 02:14:38.800 and stuff from their houses and we put if i think i'm getting this right i could be wrong i think 02:14:38.800 --> 02:14:44.080 this is how it worked i think we had two tvs and two couches in the garage and two tvs and two 02:14:44.080 --> 02:14:51.040 couches inside and there was one team inside and one team outside and we had a tournament of of halo 02:14:51.040 --> 02:14:55.760 two on one particular map that i'm not going to remember the name of um and it was it was either 02:14:55.760 --> 02:15:01.360 like swords and shotguns or i feel like it was swords and rockets but i feel like we played 02:15:01.360 --> 02:15:04.960 more swords and shotguns but i don't know i don't remember why i'm thinking rocket but it came to 02:15:04.960 --> 02:15:11.920 it was 49 49 there was two players alive and it came down to the the there was one with a sword 02:15:11.920 --> 02:15:16.000 and one with whatever the other weapon was i think it was a rocket and they both attacked at the same 02:15:16.000 --> 02:15:22.560 time no way nobody won the game until the score screen came up no way and the house just exploded 02:15:22.560 --> 02:15:32.400 it was crazy it was so cool it was so like oh man like uh it was great it was really it was very 02:15:32.400 --> 02:15:38.000 fun and like every part of that land those types of lands are fun because like people are showing up 02:15:38.000 --> 02:15:42.640 with couches in the backs of their like their parents van yeah and their parents are like i 02:15:42.640 --> 02:15:47.360 don't even understand what's happening but i mean at least you're not like doing drugs or something 02:15:47.360 --> 02:15:53.920 so fine and then we're like finding ways to to network these these two xboxes together and we're 02:15:53.920 --> 02:15:57.840 not only planning on playing xbox we also have another network going on for all these computers 02:15:57.840 --> 02:16:02.000 and we're all learning how this stuff works buying switches from ncax doing whatever getting 02:16:02.000 --> 02:16:06.720 stuff going like the whole thing's just super fun i don't know those were those were good times i 02:16:06.720 --> 02:16:10.720 feel like kids are kind of missing out on that my uh my son was playing rocket league with one of 02:16:10.720 --> 02:16:14.960 his friends and i was like hey you never invite me to play games he was like okay yeah my dad's 02:16:14.960 --> 02:16:19.600 joining us and they're like okay sure whatever we'll carry uh you know how bad i am at rocket league 02:16:19.600 --> 02:16:23.440 i did one useful thing though would you do i don't know i remember i like hit it somewhere 02:16:23.440 --> 02:16:28.640 that was useful and then we scored oh okay don't worry about it anyway the point is um his friend 02:16:28.640 --> 02:16:34.160 pulled off what's it called a reset or something like that a flip reset sure yeah so he you touch 02:16:34.160 --> 02:16:37.840 your wheels to the puck while it's in the air and then you get another jump i'm assuming that's 02:16:37.840 --> 02:16:42.960 what happened it so uh it was with the ball it's not a bright place no day anyways anyway the point 02:16:42.960 --> 02:16:46.880 is you have to touch all four wheels to the ball while you're in the air and then you get another 02:16:46.880 --> 02:16:54.000 flip while you're in the air which is beneficial in some way or something yeah and he was really 02:16:54.000 --> 02:17:06.560 excited about pulling it off or whatever and um he was sitting in his house by himself yeah and we 02:17:06.560 --> 02:17:12.720 were on a discord call and so you know that was cool but like it's cool it's not the same it's 02:17:12.720 --> 02:17:19.360 different um yeah i feel like things get diluted right and like you think it's the same and a lot 02:17:19.360 --> 02:17:30.880 of people don't do land parties anymore because they're like oh we can just play over the internet stuff but it's not it's not man and no one can cheat in person which man it's such a problem 02:17:30.880 --> 02:17:37.120 online now oh you you can but it's like it's a lot harder not with friends like you can but you won't 02:17:37.120 --> 02:17:41.760 but like i mean that's yeah and there's even some fun in that because then i don't know i find the 02:17:41.760 --> 02:17:46.160 setup of this type of stuff interesting i know not everyone would but like the whole idea of being 02:17:46.160 --> 02:17:51.280 in the garage and stuff was there is no screen peeking to screen peek you'd have to run through 02:17:51.280 --> 02:17:56.800 the house like it's not happening yeah but you can still hear each other if you look the doors 02:17:56.800 --> 02:18:02.000 propped open so you can see each other yeah but the screens are this way to each other right so you 02:18:02.000 --> 02:18:07.040 can't you can't see the screens but you can yell at each other and do whatever yeah it's just good 02:18:07.040 --> 02:18:17.840 times yeah all right hey dll how's your day going it's been a long week it's been it's been a week 02:18:18.560 --> 02:18:23.600 when and what are your plans for bonus bin items i have so many stickers yes i could just get more 02:18:23.600 --> 02:18:28.400 sticks uh hope you feel better soon Linus um i don't know i think we want to do some like 02:18:28.400 --> 02:18:34.720 little vinyl figures at one point i know we're gonna do more pins vinyl figures um honestly 02:18:34.720 --> 02:18:40.080 sarah would know this so much better than me maybe next time ask when she does like a design stream 02:18:40.160 --> 02:18:44.320 or something like that because she's she's in the know when it comes to all of that 02:18:50.240 --> 02:18:57.440 are you asking her now should i move on no no i'm i sarah's off work no hey lld from australia 02:18:57.440 --> 02:19:03.120 any thoughts on the 9800 x3d not being in stock anywhere was the release rushed in your opinion 02:19:03.120 --> 02:19:10.000 not nearly as rushed as coral to 200 series but um i feel like every product release gets 02:19:10.000 --> 02:19:14.720 kind of crunched and rushed to a certain extent it's at a certain point you you have to you're 02:19:14.720 --> 02:19:17.760 working with retail partners you're working with all these other people there has to be a certain 02:19:17.760 --> 02:19:23.840 point in time when you launch the thing yeah there's deadlines and no i mean it's easier to not have 02:19:23.840 --> 02:19:28.160 those types of deadlines with with things like independent game launches because you set the 02:19:28.160 --> 02:19:32.720 date but in this situation like there's a lot of moving pieces you're screwing a lot of different 02:19:32.720 --> 02:19:38.560 people over if you move your date back so yep or forward or wherever like changing anything really 02:19:38.560 --> 02:19:44.880 disrupts the plans and distributors and and in such a globalized world right there's there's always 02:19:44.880 --> 02:19:48.720 a time zone where it's highly problematic for someone to be having to deal with this right now 02:19:51.920 --> 02:19:58.000 hey dll now that you have some new cats when can we expect the next Linus cat tips video i uploaded 02:19:58.000 --> 02:20:02.160 a short for some reason i was feeling just inspired to and one of them like grabbed my feet from 02:20:02.160 --> 02:20:08.400 under the bed and i was like that'd be funny and then they didn't really do it the same way when i turned on the camera and then i was like ah this wasn't really worth it so i didn't bother doing 02:20:08.400 --> 02:20:15.920 anymore that's where i'm at on that fair enough yeah hey dll have you heard about the iphone users 02:20:15.920 --> 02:20:20.960 having all their notes deleted after accepting iCloud's new terms of service i had six months of 02:20:20.960 --> 02:20:29.440 important notes not backed up due to my five gigs of iCloud being full wow i have not heard uh but 02:20:29.440 --> 02:20:36.960 hey it just works uh dude i feel like i'm gonna make some enemies with my iOS 18 slash iphone 16 02:20:36.960 --> 02:20:45.760 i know you will video i um i am i am certain because man i uh like there's one point where i'm 02:20:45.760 --> 02:20:52.880 just like i think the next time someone tells me it's magic it just works whatever i i don't know 02:20:52.880 --> 02:20:58.000 if i'll be able to help it i might just laugh in their face like i it's just it's such a it's such a 02:20:58.640 --> 02:21:05.040 like galactically stupid thing to say at this point and i'm not saying that Android is perfect 02:21:05.040 --> 02:21:09.360 and just works and i'm not saying Windows is perfect and just works i'm saying they're all trash 02:21:09.360 --> 02:21:17.360 they're all human they're all full of bugs and problems like let's just let's just not pretend 02:21:17.360 --> 02:21:25.600 that's that's it let's not pretend that because someone says it so that it must be thusly like 02:21:25.680 --> 02:21:32.720 that's not how things work if something like uh and i think the thing that i was going off on 02:21:32.720 --> 02:21:40.240 was uh the way to sign in to your google account on an iphone um which i know how to do and and 02:21:40.240 --> 02:21:47.360 we've talked about and i figured out but it is just to say that that's intuitive good design 02:21:47.360 --> 02:21:56.960 is just so utterly incorrect um but i just i don't really we're clearly not living on the same 02:21:56.960 --> 02:22:01.840 planet speaking the same language so i don't even know how to talk to you like if you think that 02:22:01.840 --> 02:22:07.440 going into the apple mail app in order to sign into your google account system wide 02:22:08.080 --> 02:22:16.640 is intuitive or good design it's it's just not it just isn't um and it's funny because i was 02:22:16.640 --> 02:22:22.560 reflecting on it some more and you know how the settings app is where it used to be before that 02:22:22.560 --> 02:22:28.640 if i recall correctly it actually used to be in the initial setup wizard am i am i remembering 02:22:28.640 --> 02:22:33.680 incorrectly because i i seem to recall that it used to be i think that was the case on Android oh 02:22:33.680 --> 02:22:39.120 it's definitely the case on it's still the case on Android but i recall seeing that uh like like 02:22:39.120 --> 02:22:46.160 google microsoft that that interface right when you are setting up the phone initially um 02:22:46.720 --> 02:22:57.680 yeah no it was yeah it's it's it's amazing yeah people are saying yes yeah maldar the first says 02:22:57.680 --> 02:23:05.840 wait do they not just have an account section in settings no they do not it is not there and the 02:23:05.840 --> 02:23:09.920 people that are like well you're just used to Android no apple used to have it you could be 02:23:09.920 --> 02:23:16.480 used to literally any other phone and that's where it should be yes yes they do not have it and yes 02:23:16.480 --> 02:23:22.640 that is on purpose you guys so so whenever people say to me yeah apple is just like it's more intuitive 02:23:23.600 --> 02:23:33.120 they're just wrong apple's design can be wrong and there's a lot of things they did really well 02:23:33.120 --> 02:23:37.440 intuitive is subjective though isn't it because it could be intuitive to a different person who has 02:23:37.440 --> 02:23:41.920 different expectations and different approaches but you can measure these things so one of the 02:23:41.920 --> 02:23:47.920 ways that i measured this one was i checked the number of ratings on the app store for the first 02:23:47.920 --> 02:23:54.160 party gmail app and the first party google calendar app because if you'll recall what i wanted to do 02:23:54.160 --> 02:24:00.640 was i wanted to use my gmail app and i wanted to use apple's calendar app because i wanted to try it 02:24:00.640 --> 02:24:05.440 i don't i don't actually have any attachment to apple's calendar app but i wanted to try it out 02:24:05.440 --> 02:24:09.920 but what i'm not interested in using is apple's mail app i i don't like it i've never liked it 02:24:10.720 --> 02:24:18.000 i prefer to just use the gmail app and what i found was that the the google gmail app had 02:24:18.000 --> 02:24:25.760 2.2 million ratings on the app store the google calendar app had like 100 000 so what i can tell 02:24:25.760 --> 02:24:32.960 you objectively is that my setup where i wanted to roll the gmail app and apple's own calendar app 02:24:33.440 --> 02:24:40.720 is clearly a thing that people are doing 20 times the download rate of the gmail app versus 02:24:40.720 --> 02:24:47.280 the google calendar app so the number of people replacing their email client on the iphone compared 02:24:47.280 --> 02:24:51.840 to the number of people replacing their calendar client with google's first party alternatives 02:24:51.840 --> 02:24:58.160 or third party alternatives rather but email is something that's like more important it's it's 02:24:58.240 --> 02:25:01.360 less replaceable than calendar because other people have your contact 02:25:03.120 --> 02:25:08.400 no no all i'm saying is is it wasn't intuitive for me necessarily and neither would it necessarily 02:25:08.400 --> 02:25:14.400 be for a lot of people to open up apple's mail app and use that because clearly lots of people 02:25:15.120 --> 02:25:22.160 don't use it they use the google one and clearly not all of those people also replace the google 02:25:22.160 --> 02:25:28.080 calendar app they want to do exactly what i wanted to do use the gmail app and the apple 02:25:28.080 --> 02:25:36.160 calendar app right 20 times as many ratings so and you and you can't you can't do what if you 02:25:36.160 --> 02:25:41.360 sign or you can but if you sign into the gmail app it doesn't sign you in system white 02:25:43.600 --> 02:25:49.680 in order to sign your google account in on an iphone you have to launch apple's mail app 02:25:50.240 --> 02:25:56.960 and sign into your gmail there okay there's nowhere else to do it what is the system what 02:25:56.960 --> 02:26:02.960 other things are handyman saying this isn't true um what what other things are you trying to have 02:26:02.960 --> 02:26:07.760 logged in i guess well i want my i want my contacts to sync you want your oh i want my calendar to 02:26:07.760 --> 02:26:13.680 sync okay i want i want my google account signs things like your your phone yeah you can do it 02:26:13.680 --> 02:26:21.760 in the settings no you can't here it is in my pocket there's a bunch of different people saying 02:26:21.760 --> 02:26:25.280 it right now i think this is going to be the biggest problem with the video you're almost 02:26:25.280 --> 02:26:31.440 going to have to have like an unlisted companion video that goes over like and just like actually 02:26:31.440 --> 02:26:39.760 it really is this stupid here's the here's the defense minus cam settings here we go 02:26:39.760 --> 02:26:49.360 okay all right so here is yep here we go just making sure there's nothing particularly okay 02:26:49.920 --> 02:27:00.800 here we go here is settings accounts no third party accounts just i cloud just sign in with apple 02:27:01.600 --> 02:27:08.400 nothing else here's the rest of the settings settings apple account i cloud mail that's the 02:27:08.480 --> 02:27:13.840 same thing isn't it there is but it's not you can't sign into gmail there settings apple 02:27:13.840 --> 02:27:22.400 account i cloud mail but i don't use i cloud settings apps calendar accounts settings hold on 02:27:22.400 --> 02:27:33.360 hold on hold on hold on settings apps apps where's that okay calendar um right below calculator yeah 02:27:33.680 --> 02:27:38.720 are you kidding me there's a google button 02:27:44.720 --> 02:27:50.720 should we like go hold on a second hold on a second is your argument that that's intuitive 02:27:53.360 --> 02:27:59.040 to add an account to that app if you're an iOS user and it's worked that way for 10 years like 02:27:59.280 --> 02:28:04.560 but it didn't use to how did it used to i don't i never you i've never once mainline an iphone 02:28:04.560 --> 02:28:12.160 there used to be in settings an accounts parent menu handyman i don't think he's saying that 02:28:12.880 --> 02:28:17.120 you didn't show him two weeks ago he's saying that that doesn't seem intuitive i'm saying it's not 02:28:17.120 --> 02:28:27.520 intuitive so we will have to do can you not get there in the app or something or like what's 02:28:27.520 --> 02:28:34.160 no you can't that you definitely cannot so that feels unintuitive to me you can also do it in that 02:28:34.160 --> 02:28:42.000 you can get there in the mail app not in the calendar app but if i'm an iOS user am i used to 02:28:42.720 --> 02:28:48.960 going to that settings page to do things like that so here's what happens here's what happens when 02:28:48.960 --> 02:28:55.920 you open mail and you aren't signed in you are prompted to sign in so that thing that we got on 02:28:55.920 --> 02:29:02.640 the other page yes here's what happens if you open up the first party calendar app and you are not signed 02:29:02.640 --> 02:29:09.440 in yeah so i'm assuming it just uses like a local account which again this is what i was kind of 02:29:09.440 --> 02:29:19.280 trying to point out earlier is like add calendar no nothing there add no that's an event but but 02:29:19.280 --> 02:29:26.400 people are a little bit more just temporal the right word like like calendars are kind of whatever 02:29:26.400 --> 02:29:32.800 compared to an email account sure but so hold on but the part you're missing is i'm signing into an 02:29:32.800 --> 02:29:39.040 email but i'm using the gmail app i don't want to use apple's mail app yeah but like i'm not interested 02:29:39.040 --> 02:29:42.640 in it i don't necessarily if i sign into my microsoft account on my phone i don't necessarily 02:29:42.640 --> 02:29:46.800 want to import my microsoft calendar into my calendars app no but you can be prompted what 02:29:46.880 --> 02:29:52.160 you do or don't want to sync when you add an account agree but does it work that way like what's 02:29:52.160 --> 02:30:00.080 is there a default calendar app on it would be the google calendar on Android Android yeah i don't 02:30:00.080 --> 02:30:06.640 know that it asks you if you want your microsoft calendar stuff in here add another account can 02:30:06.640 --> 02:30:16.560 i add a non microsoft account this way checking info lux soon stuff he's cooking it's a google it 02:30:16.560 --> 02:30:23.520 immediately assumes a google account um manage accounts on this device so that should that 02:30:23.520 --> 02:30:27.840 should bring you to where it brings me to any kind of account you want setting yes but it 02:30:27.840 --> 02:30:34.400 does it's not actually it's not calendar specific it's just like everything no but you would go in 02:30:34.400 --> 02:30:40.000 your calendar app and you would tell it which calendars you want to sync i'm in my calendar app 02:30:40.000 --> 02:30:48.640 though and add another account is just google accounts and then i have manage accounts which 02:30:48.640 --> 02:30:53.520 just brings me to all general sorry what's the question though it's if there's no there's no 02:30:53.520 --> 02:30:57.760 prompt to add the microsoft account you're saying you're saying it would be more intuitive if there's 02:30:57.760 --> 02:31:02.480 a prompt i'm saying i don't think there's a prompt on Android if there's a prompt to add what though 02:31:02.480 --> 02:31:09.600 the the microsoft account oh the microsoft account no i would say a apple calendar thing but i don't 02:31:09.600 --> 02:31:15.120 have one of those so i can't no no i expected account management the place i expected to 02:31:15.120 --> 02:31:26.720 find account management was under my name here at the top sure oh oops i'm gonna figure this up 02:31:26.720 --> 02:31:31.360 cam only there we go the place i would expect to find it is under my name here at the top where my 02:31:31.360 --> 02:31:36.080 apple account and my i cloud is i would i would expect to maybe find all of my accounts there 02:31:37.040 --> 02:31:42.560 i might expect it to find i might expect to find it under accounts like under you know general 02:31:42.560 --> 02:31:49.040 accessibility you know siri you know all my accounts here those are places where i would 02:31:49.040 --> 02:31:56.160 expect to find system-wide accounts that i log into that work across multiple apps 02:31:57.120 --> 02:32:04.240 hmm what i wouldn't expect is for the mail the default mail and the default calendar app to 02:32:04.240 --> 02:32:11.120 operate completely different ways in terms of adding a new account so when i when i click on mail 02:32:11.120 --> 02:32:17.760 it immediately prompts me hey do you want to sign in to one of these types of accounts and we've 02:32:17.760 --> 02:32:24.240 got important thing important account types like aol for example in there uh when i go into the 02:32:24.240 --> 02:32:29.280 calendar one it prompts me for nothing so the only real point that i have with the calendar versus 02:32:29.280 --> 02:32:35.280 mail one is that they behave completely different ways yeah after i've already like gone into my 02:32:35.280 --> 02:32:40.320 my settings menu and what would be the most intuitive settings place for me different ways 02:32:40.320 --> 02:32:45.120 is the unintuitive portion after i've already gone into the settings and gone okay where the 02:32:45.120 --> 02:32:53.280 devil do i sign into my bloody google account mm-hmm yeah i'm just saying it it's not prompting you 02:32:53.280 --> 02:32:57.360 for any other accounts on on Android either 02:33:01.360 --> 02:33:05.600 rysaw says it was much better in iOS 17 they created the new apps menu at the bottom of 02:33:05.600 --> 02:33:14.320 settings in iOS 18 if i recall correctly the whole um finding finding settings under apps 02:33:15.200 --> 02:33:21.840 has been a thing for a really long time uh like i man i forget there was something years ago 02:33:21.840 --> 02:33:29.120 that i was trying to figure out how the heck to do and it turns out that it was like oh you know 02:33:29.120 --> 02:33:33.200 what was it that was it something was i trying to change something on the camera or something 02:33:33.200 --> 02:33:38.000 i forget what it was but i had to dig into apps in order to change something that that seemed 02:33:38.000 --> 02:33:44.560 like it would be sort of fundamental to the system i know sorry i so the so the goofy like 02:33:44.560 --> 02:33:51.440 hiding settings in under apps thing um even though they are system-wide and not necessarily 02:33:51.440 --> 02:33:57.680 specific to that particular app that's not new uh but i don't know to your point i haven't used iOS 02:33:57.680 --> 02:34:02.400 17 so i don't know i don't know what they have i think you just think that they should be which 02:34:02.400 --> 02:34:07.600 is fine well if they affect more than one app yeah but that doesn't mean they're system-wide it means 02:34:07.600 --> 02:34:13.040 they affect that means they aren't that app that setting is are you saying one setting is changing 02:34:13.040 --> 02:34:17.200 things system no i'm saying when you log into a google account yeah but i don't think you're 02:34:17.200 --> 02:34:22.400 logging into a system-wide account on iphone it well okay well sorry we're using the term system-wide 02:34:22.400 --> 02:34:27.440 very differently what i'm saying is that you are logged into an account that is inherently logged 02:34:27.440 --> 02:34:32.240 in the second you open up another supported app that uses that same login if i log into my mail 02:34:32.240 --> 02:34:37.520 account immediately my calendars will sink so it's my contacts will say indicated and all that okay 02:34:37.520 --> 02:34:44.640 okay okay so so that's that's what doesn't make sense to me why i have to open apple's mail account 02:34:44.640 --> 02:34:53.440 to do that or to your guys's point i have to go dig into apps find something that happens to be 02:34:53.440 --> 02:35:00.880 google will chrome work no chrome doesn't work i can't log into my google account in chrome brilliant 02:35:00.880 --> 02:35:08.640 um i'll have to find a different one docs docs doesn't work docs doesn't have the login 02:35:10.720 --> 02:35:18.640 drive maybe drive uh the login for what though for my google account i i'm not logged into it 02:35:18.640 --> 02:35:28.960 but like so but if i go to mail if i go to hold on mail now i can log in my google account 02:35:29.600 --> 02:35:34.800 and it will work with those other things can you can you view outlook through the gmail app i don't 02:35:34.800 --> 02:35:41.520 use outlook so i don't know yeah like i don't know if maybe you can i don't know if you can add 02:35:41.520 --> 02:35:45.760 third-party apps to the the gmail account so i think the fact that theirs is clunky 02:35:46.960 --> 02:35:52.240 what apparently you can really you can add outlook to the gmail account oh oh wait oh okay yeah yeah 02:35:52.240 --> 02:35:56.560 okay i don't have it set up that way yeah yeah no the gmail the gmail app is just a mail client 02:35:56.560 --> 02:36:01.200 multifunction mail yep yeah 100 because like what i'm looking at right now is yeah if and 02:36:01.200 --> 02:36:06.240 i don't want to show you guys sorry if i go add an account yes this will eventually load 02:36:06.240 --> 02:36:14.000 and it's it's only google accounts yeah so okay fine if i go manage accounts on this device yep 02:36:14.000 --> 02:36:18.800 it brings me to password pass keys in autofill and it doesn't bring up things that could sink 02:36:18.800 --> 02:36:24.560 that's not if i use that phone then i would say that that's trash and that's not intuitive yeah okay 02:36:24.560 --> 02:36:33.680 so my point is not that Android is better yeah my point is that that is terrible and is not 02:36:33.680 --> 02:36:41.360 intuitive if i wanted to log in an account if i had never touched an Android phone or an iphone before 02:36:42.560 --> 02:36:49.120 and i wanted to and i wanted to get get my like google calendar and that was like the first thing 02:36:49.200 --> 02:36:56.000 that i wanted to do where do i go from here how would i how would i do it from here there is 02:36:56.000 --> 02:37:02.640 literally yeah no way to be prompted to sign in to some other type of account literally no way 02:37:02.640 --> 02:37:08.640 i'm not gonna lie i'm immediately lost because i i feel so lost the second i touch an iphone 02:37:08.640 --> 02:37:14.800 that's not an iphone problem that's a that's a mini problem but um yeah i would personally like 02:37:14.800 --> 02:37:20.480 there to be a setting in the app somewhere i generally like it when i can fully operate 02:37:20.480 --> 02:37:24.960 things from within the app i don't like it when i have to go to external settings on on anything 02:37:24.960 --> 02:37:32.720 whether that's a desktop device um any form of phone whatever it doesn't matter so the you just 02:37:32.720 --> 02:37:36.720 fundamentally don't understand how this is working it's not a system wide account what you're saying 02:37:36.720 --> 02:37:44.960 is false i believe uh if i want my calendar to sync i have to sign in to the mail app 02:37:48.880 --> 02:37:58.000 really yes now i was shown that other way i can also go into settings right so i can also 02:37:58.000 --> 02:38:07.040 go into settings apps calendar and i can add a calendar account here 02:38:11.680 --> 02:38:15.840 does not go through the mail app but but it's still it's still a lot of clicks clunky that's 02:38:15.840 --> 02:38:20.320 what you're saying and it was a very different interface compared to when i went to the mail 02:38:20.320 --> 02:38:25.680 app and i was immediately prompted to sign into my gmail so if you open mail first the way that 02:38:25.680 --> 02:38:29.440 you're being trained to interact with the phone is not the same as when you open the calendar 02:38:29.440 --> 02:38:35.920 correct yeah settings apps calendar accounts make sense to me though it does make sense to me too 02:38:35.920 --> 02:38:40.960 but his point is that when you open the mail app another first party app that is highly related 02:38:40.960 --> 02:38:46.320 to calendar i would say um it doesn't work the same way yeah so he just just in case you didn't 02:38:46.320 --> 02:38:50.000 see that he clicked on the mail app he's not currently signed into anything so it immediately 02:38:50.000 --> 02:38:54.640 prompts him to log into stuff when he clicks on the calendar app there is no prompt now i have an 02:38:54.640 --> 02:39:00.240 iCloud account because you have to sign into an iCloud account in order to like sign into the 02:39:00.240 --> 02:39:04.720 phone in order to set up the phone as far as i know can you set it up with an apple account maybe 02:39:04.720 --> 02:39:11.200 you can i've never tried um so that's the calendars that it's pulling it's pulling like ancient apple 02:39:11.200 --> 02:39:15.680 calendars open open calendar i saw this button earlier but i didn't really think about it open 02:39:15.680 --> 02:39:25.040 calendar click on find it go away click on calendars at the bottom calendars at the bottom 02:39:25.040 --> 02:39:33.280 there we go and then i think i saw this like add calendar yeah yep uh nope at holiday calendar at 02:39:33.280 --> 02:39:37.600 subscription calendar and family calendar what's just add calendar what's add calendar again 02:39:41.360 --> 02:39:44.160 so is it fixed on iCloud can you click the thing that says iCloud 02:39:45.760 --> 02:39:53.360 yeah i don't know guys i don't know what to tell you 02:39:57.920 --> 02:40:03.040 the calendar can be local to your vice only yeah i pointed that out earlier yeah mail is not just 02:40:03.040 --> 02:40:10.160 local yeah yeah yeah um i don't know i i get why i understand what Linus is saying i also get why 02:40:10.160 --> 02:40:15.680 it might not work that way um i would like that add a calendar thing that we just did 02:40:15.680 --> 02:40:20.640 it it literally shows an account line that's like it's it says account and then there's a great 02:40:20.640 --> 02:40:26.720 out text on the side that says iCloud it was like if that just was able to be whatever you wanted 02:40:26.720 --> 02:40:33.440 then or it opened a prompt to log into another account yeah sure whatever yeah that's what i 02:40:33.440 --> 02:40:38.800 would try to do if i wanted to log into my calendar app i would go to my calendar app 02:40:39.520 --> 02:40:44.960 and this is exactly what i tried to do i went into my calendar app stop it i went into my calendar 02:40:44.960 --> 02:40:49.520 app i went to calendars i went to add calendar pretty intuitive i went to add calendar pretty 02:40:49.520 --> 02:40:54.320 intuitive and i was like and now there's yeah now what which it feels broken almost there's 02:40:54.320 --> 02:40:58.320 there's a line that says account and then on the right it's great out and says i calendar and he 02:40:58.320 --> 02:41:04.320 can't interact with it at all what's up with that that seems weird is something wrong no set up google 02:41:04.320 --> 02:41:10.880 in settings mail then turn on everything then in calendar tap on the word calendar at the bottom 02:41:10.880 --> 02:41:16.080 and add it there which is exactly what i've been trying to say so that makes it a global account 02:41:16.080 --> 02:41:22.560 if you do it that way well not global account but it it makes it so that your you can access your 02:41:22.560 --> 02:41:31.760 google crap will sink yeah see that's wacky i'm sorry but that is you're right i missed something 02:41:32.720 --> 02:41:39.680 it actually doesn't change my point at all that these two systems behave very such a blood bath 02:41:39.680 --> 02:41:48.880 of it yeah very differently from each other you should do like oh man it might be brutal it might 02:41:48.880 --> 02:41:57.440 suck yeah i think it'd be kind of fun if you did a stream like whatever the duration of the video 02:41:57.440 --> 02:42:03.840 is after the video launches yeah you start a live stream and then just basically do this 02:42:04.640 --> 02:42:12.000 that'd be kind of fun actually it's like real time the ARM actually comments you're pissed about 02:42:12.000 --> 02:42:18.000 apple fight me live bro like i don't know if you kind of interesting thank you mackay oh everyone 02:42:18.000 --> 02:42:22.800 saying he's wrong is nitpicking the minutiae and missing the entire actual point missing the forest 02:42:22.800 --> 02:42:28.880 for the trees as it were you guys like what do you want me to say you guys are right that i didn't 02:42:28.880 --> 02:42:36.000 think to go digging into a sub menu of a sub menu of a sub menu instead of just opening the app and 02:42:36.000 --> 02:42:41.760 signing in the way that i did in the other one i would hope that's what that's the problem skill 02:42:41.760 --> 02:42:49.280 issue to sign into mail i just open the mail app and i sign into mail which will also allow me to 02:42:49.280 --> 02:42:56.640 sync my contacts and my calendars and my google stuff that i need for work if i want to sign into 02:42:56.640 --> 02:43:06.960 calendar i open calendar and it's a complete dead end handyman saying because on iphone all 02:43:06.960 --> 02:43:11.440 settings are expected to be under settings apps that's just apple's approach we don't like it but 02:43:11.440 --> 02:43:15.840 it's their way of doing it yeah there's lots of settings that are not what happens when they're 02:43:15.920 --> 02:43:21.040 matter tim said does it matter that apple's guide on this explains it well and i found it quick 02:43:21.040 --> 02:43:25.040 i think good documentation matters and then he linked it i don't think you should need a guide 02:43:25.040 --> 02:43:30.400 for logging into your i think needing a guide inherently means it's not intuitive if we're 02:43:30.400 --> 02:43:37.760 using the word intuitive for what it's supposed to mean um yeah so the overly defensive line is 02:43:37.760 --> 02:43:45.120 here but um the intuitive using or based on what one feels to be true even without conscious 02:43:45.120 --> 02:43:52.480 reasoning so needing to look up a guide just automatically yeah 02:43:55.680 --> 02:44:04.080 man anything to do with iOS man is uh it's i don't know it's a feisty it's just it's a really 02:44:04.080 --> 02:44:13.680 funny thing because i um i say look i uh i think hot dogs are unintuitive and people go 02:44:15.120 --> 02:44:21.120 hamburgers are so much less unintuitive Linus Linus Linus less hamburgers the ingredients 02:44:21.120 --> 02:44:28.400 slide around i think they're both unintuitive i think there's problems with both and i think to 02:44:28.400 --> 02:44:36.080 i think to i think to make this argument that this is that this is good design is just um like i 02:44:36.080 --> 02:44:44.320 don't really i don't really know what to tell you if i can and you say look it's the apple way 02:44:44.320 --> 02:44:51.840 that the settings for it are in the are in the apps part of the settings menu okay so is the 02:44:51.840 --> 02:44:58.880 account that you're logged into a setting yes or no i think i would generally think sure so then 02:44:58.880 --> 02:45:05.520 for the mail app it should be in the settings of the mail app it should not prompt me when i open 02:45:05.520 --> 02:45:13.600 it then it might even be useful in my opinion to make it so that uh i think some apps do work that 02:45:13.600 --> 02:45:19.920 way maybe not in the apple ecosystem but if it was like we see you're not signed in press this button 02:45:19.920 --> 02:45:25.120 to go to the settings and it like opens the settings and like makes a little bit of a display of 02:45:25.120 --> 02:45:30.160 like sure but it doesn't do that yeah and that's the problem avon fox says it's not that is that 02:45:30.160 --> 02:45:34.480 you say it's trash because it's not for how your brain works is insulting for people to people for 02:45:34.480 --> 02:45:45.360 whom it is um when something when when ui or ux is inconsistent that's bad that's measurably 02:45:45.360 --> 02:45:52.560 that's measurably bad that's not that's not the goal and because we're used to something 02:45:53.200 --> 02:45:59.920 does not mean that it's good and when i say something's bad it's not personal the fact 02:45:59.920 --> 02:46:05.280 that you're used to it or you like it it's not personal it's literally my job to point out 02:46:05.280 --> 02:46:11.680 things that are unintuitive or that aren't good about technology something that i will never 02:46:11.680 --> 02:46:16.240 understand though yeah is and and this is again coming from Android brain because it's the only 02:46:16.240 --> 02:46:23.520 thing i've used um my mom always struggled with Android she would find ways to email me text 02:46:23.520 --> 02:46:29.440 messages uh wow like that's kind of impressive there is weird like no but she could not send 02:46:29.440 --> 02:46:35.040 me a normal text message i would just receive emails that were text messages and like i don't 02:46:35.040 --> 02:46:41.040 i've never actually even done that yeah like it's it's weird it's not a normal email it's not 02:46:41.040 --> 02:46:46.320 you know she sent an email with text in it no it's a text message in an email right like as an 02:46:46.320 --> 02:46:52.400 attachment yeah it's like it was very odd it was years ago but it was very weird and she had lots 02:46:52.400 --> 02:46:57.520 of other crazy weird problems with her Android phone and then uh she was working in the movie 02:46:57.520 --> 02:47:03.920 industry for a while yeah and they had like standardized on some iOS stuff i don't remember 02:47:03.920 --> 02:47:11.120 what it was yeah um so she needed an iphone she got an iphone instantly perfect i remember power 02:47:11.120 --> 02:47:16.720 user no issues i remember you telling me about this because to her the whole like like like uh 02:47:16.720 --> 02:47:23.600 throwing away an app was just like super intuitive instant yeah no thoughts immediately 02:47:23.600 --> 02:47:27.040 worked like the most intuitive thing you could ever imagine yeah and then i try to go do something 02:47:27.040 --> 02:47:33.440 on her phone i'm like yeah it's happening i set up my aunt with an iphone years ago because 02:47:33.440 --> 02:47:38.960 basically i didn't want to coach her on how to use her phone yeah and it's been very painless it 02:47:38.960 --> 02:47:46.800 works so like i had it they got something going on um so people are people are pointing out things 02:47:46.800 --> 02:47:54.320 that are just um like i i don't really oh man i don't really i don't really know what to say to 02:47:54.320 --> 02:47:58.800 you so zen thokson says mail prompts you because it has nothing to load if you aren't signed in 02:47:59.680 --> 02:48:06.800 but okay please my problem was never that mail prompted me to sign in you like that part of 02:48:06.800 --> 02:48:16.080 anything that's good yeah my problem was that when i did the same behavior the same user behavior 02:48:16.080 --> 02:48:24.720 and i opened my calendar it did not prompt me to log in and had absolutely no way for me to 02:48:24.720 --> 02:48:35.200 log in and no breadcrumb trail for me to follow to log in nothing if we agree that the account 02:48:35.200 --> 02:48:42.880 you're logged into is a setting and if we agree that apple puts settings under settings apps and 02:48:42.880 --> 02:48:49.760 the name of the app then we agree that the mail's account that we log in should be there 02:48:50.800 --> 02:49:00.080 only there with no way to link to it from the app itself but that is not the case therefore the mail 02:49:00.080 --> 02:49:08.560 app follows a different set of rules from the calendar app guys are we there yet did we get 02:49:08.560 --> 02:49:14.800 there nydx i don't know said i think it's hubris to not ever look for help in the modern era 02:49:14.800 --> 02:49:18.320 and has good docs and he's talking about the fact that there's a good doc on how to do this 02:49:18.960 --> 02:49:24.160 one of the problems that you guys are some of you guys are really struggling with is the word 02:49:24.160 --> 02:49:32.720 intuitive if he has to look up a help doc for something it is not intuitive to him flat out 02:49:32.720 --> 02:49:36.960 there's no there's no other interpretation of that if he has to look up a help doc for something 02:49:36.960 --> 02:49:39.360 it is not intuitive also i did figure it out 02:49:41.680 --> 02:49:45.280 i figured out to log into the mail app that's not the problem 02:49:47.600 --> 02:49:55.440 oh boy cape says when will you have a video criticizing Android these had many tons 02:49:56.720 --> 02:50:05.760 it's it's amazing for years for many years it's amazing the selective the selective perception 02:50:05.760 --> 02:50:13.440 that people have you're insulting my my tribe this entire video was dunking on the deplorable 02:50:13.440 --> 02:50:18.960 state of a osp yeah that might not have been the best video example to bring up it was two months 02:50:18.960 --> 02:50:26.000 ago i i i understand that not everyone agrees with the premise of the video yeah but the premise 02:50:26.000 --> 02:50:30.560 of the video was what the premise of the video was you guys aren't wrong that is stock Android it is 02:50:30.560 --> 02:50:34.400 stock Android whether you like it or not i don't know how applicable it is because it doesn't apply 02:50:34.400 --> 02:50:38.480 to anybody but that was our point yeah our point was that sock androids kind of dead 02:50:38.480 --> 02:50:43.600 and we discussed some of the reasons that it's kind of dead for users yeah yes um 02:50:45.280 --> 02:50:53.360 let's see let's see uh i'm trying to remember because i'm pretty sure we did um 02:50:55.680 --> 02:51:02.480 i'm pretty sure we've done rant style videos on both iOS and Android or have we only done 02:51:02.480 --> 02:51:08.640 you know what no we haven't we did um i really wonder if you should somehow i don't know how 02:51:08.640 --> 02:51:14.320 you would do this is the video already shot uh partially i wonder if you should somehow get 02:51:14.320 --> 02:51:20.880 like a subset of you know those videos that are trending right now ten ways iphones are just better 02:51:20.880 --> 02:51:26.240 they put yeah six years ago there you go uh they have like somebody in a chair with a table and 02:51:26.240 --> 02:51:29.600 another chair across from it in the middle of a room and then a circle of people around it 02:51:29.920 --> 02:51:33.680 was Android is just better all those people in the circle versus one person yeah yeah yeah 02:51:33.680 --> 02:51:39.120 that's already on the calendar oh okay i don't know so i i feel like you should like basically get a 02:51:39.120 --> 02:51:45.920 subset of like apple fans i can think of one t three pio oh we could definitely find some and 02:51:45.920 --> 02:51:51.280 then give them your talking points for the video and then fight their talking points like in the 02:51:51.280 --> 02:51:58.080 video because i i i i don't know honestly that probably won't even help anything no it won't 02:51:58.160 --> 02:52:03.280 help it won't help anything luke i mean the fact that people don't think i criticize Android 02:52:04.400 --> 02:52:08.960 is all that you really need to know about the sort of selection bias of 02:52:09.920 --> 02:52:22.160 um the perception of my takes on these things i have been hyper critical of Windows Android iOS 02:52:22.160 --> 02:52:28.000 macOS basically like i said my entire job is looking at things and going this is what could 02:52:28.000 --> 02:52:36.720 be better about them i also highlight things i really like i just i'm just trying to take 02:52:36.720 --> 02:52:40.880 because i i know this obviously this video is going to be a bloodbath so i'm just trying to 02:52:40.880 --> 02:52:47.680 figure like how do we how do we how do we pull all the iron out of it and make a sword um how 02:52:47.680 --> 02:52:52.640 do we like how do we do something cool with that basically so like there's the the stream that starts 02:52:52.640 --> 02:52:59.360 the the total duration of the video after the the video goes live um there's this like i don't know 02:53:00.160 --> 02:53:04.400 picking like five apple creators and then having them fight you on it or something 02:53:05.920 --> 02:53:11.200 change my mind style i don't know i think that'd be kind of i think that'd be kind of fun yeah 02:53:11.200 --> 02:53:15.440 because especially like it could even be genuinely helpful because as long as people come in with 02:53:15.440 --> 02:53:21.520 like an understanding that you might end up agreeing to disagree then it's probably just 02:53:21.520 --> 02:53:28.880 going to be like a good conversation i don't know separate what is personal opinion in fact 02:53:28.880 --> 02:53:32.960 the whole conversation we're having right now is that that seems to be a very difficult thing 02:53:32.960 --> 02:53:37.120 like i i'm not going against avon fox here to be clear but that seems to be a very difficult thing 02:53:37.120 --> 02:53:41.520 with a lot of topics and this is one of them this is this is definitely one of which is just 02:53:41.520 --> 02:53:47.120 baffling to me because so weird at the end of the day if you ripped my Android phone out of my hands 02:53:47.120 --> 02:53:52.880 i'd use an iphone yeah like i um there would be things that bother me about it just like there 02:53:52.880 --> 02:53:57.600 are things that bother me about my Android phone um tacky the penguin says you're really straining 02:53:57.600 --> 02:54:02.240 for a nat which is not an expression i've heard before but i think i kind of like it you're straining 02:54:02.240 --> 02:54:08.320 for a nat if your biggest issue with iOS is how you sign into calendars it isn't it's just not 02:54:08.320 --> 02:54:15.680 intuitive who said it was and what i and what i said was anyone who tells me that is intuitive 02:54:16.320 --> 02:54:22.400 i'm sorry but i i i have to take exception and then i laid out why would you take the biggest 02:54:22.400 --> 02:54:28.480 exception with this issue i laid out the only exception you have in very clear like like the 02:54:28.480 --> 02:54:37.600 like in very clear mathematical terms why it's not intuitive and how the one app behaves differently 02:54:37.600 --> 02:54:43.840 from the other app and if we accept this rule that the account we're signed into is a setting 02:54:43.840 --> 02:54:47.920 and settings can only be here and are not linked to from the app then the fact that one behaves one 02:54:47.920 --> 02:54:55.920 way and one behaves the other way is not compatible with each other and that is not intuitive and 02:54:55.920 --> 02:55:04.000 pretty easy to solve as well actually extremely easy to solve it is it is it is so easy to solve 02:55:04.000 --> 02:55:11.600 and is so intuitive to solve in fact some people who opposed my criticism of apple 02:55:12.320 --> 02:55:19.520 in the chat today were saying it's so simple you just click add calendar but it wasn't there 02:55:19.520 --> 02:55:27.360 yeah why wasn't it there i don't know it seems like something's wrong because like why why would 02:55:27.360 --> 02:55:32.800 that line even be there if you can't do anything with it and that's where like my brain feels like 02:55:32.800 --> 02:55:39.840 it's broken and maybe this is Android brain i don't know because i i expected i would be able 02:55:39.840 --> 02:55:43.840 to click on that and it would list the various system wide accounts that i have and there would 02:55:43.840 --> 02:55:48.160 be an account add account option and maybe it brings me out to some other menu and i have to add a 02:55:48.160 --> 02:55:52.480 system wide account there's 10 trillion authentication steps and it puts its fingers into 02:55:52.480 --> 02:55:56.480 everything in my phone and whatever else but like that's the flow that i would expect i would not 02:55:56.480 --> 02:56:05.040 expect a a line that is completely not interactable on a page of inputs that's not something i would 02:56:05.040 --> 02:56:15.200 expect like ever to be honest apple was forced to make setting up mail as easy as apple mail great 02:56:16.560 --> 02:56:23.200 okay so you're saying then that the fact that they work differently is because apple put 02:56:24.080 --> 02:56:30.320 user hostile design not the argument you wanted in their calendar app and left it there because 02:56:30.320 --> 02:56:39.280 they were never forced to change it yikes 02:56:45.360 --> 02:56:53.120 why are they like this and now they want to change the subject 02:56:55.520 --> 02:57:01.120 well you got to go to settings and then there's the change subject app settings which are only 02:57:01.120 --> 02:57:06.240 in settings yeah but it's in the settings of the subject app not in the global settings 02:57:07.040 --> 02:57:11.760 and it's under a hamburger menu i got another merch message for you here we're gonna be here 02:57:12.480 --> 02:57:20.320 luke's birds are gonna get sad Linus i do you want to move on we can keep talking about this if 02:57:20.320 --> 02:57:26.800 you want yeah no no no all right cool Linus i need to paint my house it's only 1150 square feet 02:57:26.800 --> 02:57:32.080 people tell me rolling looks worse than spraying is it worth buying a sprayer just for a one time 02:57:32.080 --> 02:57:38.800 use absolutely nothing be okay get good at rolling it's not that hard basically what it just comes 02:57:38.800 --> 02:57:46.640 down to is make sure you apply enough material and then kind of spread it out and level it out 02:57:46.640 --> 02:57:53.440 without um pressing too hard and then make sure that you've got a light on nearby because while 02:57:53.440 --> 02:57:58.400 it's wet it's really it's kind of has a sheen and it's really easy to see any spots where you've got 02:57:58.400 --> 02:58:04.240 too much paint built up and it'll drip so make sure that you go right away um and and kind of 02:58:04.240 --> 02:58:08.800 level those out without a ton of paint on the roller before moving on to the next area 02:58:10.320 --> 02:58:14.800 cut in the edges first even though it's like tedious and it feels like you're not making any 02:58:14.800 --> 02:58:18.960 progress even though you're doing the vast majority of the work you're covering the minority of the 02:58:18.960 --> 02:58:25.200 wall and then uh and then do your uh and then do your rolling makes the yeah the remaining a lot 02:58:25.200 --> 02:58:31.680 easier yeah use a drop sheet no matter how careful you think you can be use a drop sheet because as 02:58:31.680 --> 02:58:37.360 you roll the roller it turns obviously and when you've got paint on it'll flick out little bits of 02:58:37.360 --> 02:58:41.120 paint so as long as you have a drop sheet down there it'll grab everything why would you say 02:58:41.680 --> 02:58:43.760 using a spray is unintuitive 02:58:46.320 --> 02:58:51.440 I well yeah sure I'll tell you paint sprayer operation is often not very intuitive sure 02:58:52.320 --> 02:58:58.560 I'm just messing no I'm good I I will I will die on that hill the apple one honestly doesn't 02:58:58.560 --> 02:59:03.840 matter to me that much but I will die on the paint sprayer hill domain was like I just tagged me 02:59:03.840 --> 02:59:17.200 and said I hate you fair enough oh man okay uh this is a hard end of the show been seeing the hoodie 02:59:17.200 --> 02:59:21.920 all week on tech and GameLinked and couldn't wait for it to drop the wife and I are suckers for cozy 02:59:22.000 --> 02:59:29.680 clothing Linus what's the next step in foldables that makes it mainstream hi man I don't know 02:59:29.680 --> 02:59:35.920 for apple to make one and I don't think they will it's been rumored for a long time they're 02:59:35.920 --> 02:59:40.560 clearly looking at the technology they'd be crazy not to be looking at it at the very least but 02:59:41.200 --> 02:59:47.680 they obviously have a lot of work to do on making their sign-in process consistent from app to app 02:59:47.680 --> 02:59:53.120 so they still haven't figured out how to make the camera do only as one developer so we got to 02:59:53.120 --> 02:59:58.480 give them time let them cook yeah currently they're working on the calendar login we'll have to come 02:59:58.480 --> 03:00:03.920 back to a foldable compatibility yeah they got they got t9 dialing nailed though nice yeah good job 03:00:04.720 --> 03:00:11.120 yeah they did it deserves a promotion then we'll have zero depths I actually I actually love it I 03:00:11.120 --> 03:00:19.520 I love t9 dialing it's so great the um the way that apple handles all your different um phone call 03:00:20.320 --> 03:00:27.040 accounts so to speak your different voice uh communication methods is amazing here call me 03:00:27.040 --> 03:00:33.760 call me on the phone sorry I'm just very tempted to dofo the set of a good one which was uh 03:00:33.920 --> 03:00:37.360 uh why are you saying that flat screens are so unintuitive 03:00:41.840 --> 03:00:43.920 okay I'm calling okay okay 03:00:47.920 --> 03:00:53.840 okay so so check this out uh yeah there's no okay so it comes up like this right 03:00:53.840 --> 03:00:57.600 and then if I want to answer then I just you know hit my button or whatever okay call me on teams now 03:00:57.600 --> 03:01:01.840 I'll be here for a half hour no no it's cool 03:01:08.320 --> 03:01:17.280 you really do okay so this is cool watch this how cool is that the interface is really nice 03:01:17.280 --> 03:01:22.240 identical that's genuinely very nice and the best part is if I go into my call log 03:01:23.200 --> 03:01:30.640 which was both that's really nice yeah that's intuitive that's very intuitive very intuitive 03:01:31.200 --> 03:01:37.120 objectively that's genuinely very cool I actually yeah I am envious of that it's especially nice 03:01:37.120 --> 03:01:44.240 uh like for carplay because I don't have to think about what slightly different interface 03:01:44.240 --> 03:01:49.520 might come up like when I get a whatsapp call in the car on Android it sucks if they have 03:01:49.520 --> 03:01:55.040 it like brings up a little thing swipey things and whatever yeah it's annoying yeah so it's 03:01:55.040 --> 03:02:01.200 very very intuitive okay so apple people are you okay now are you good that is genuinely like as 03:02:01.200 --> 03:02:05.440 someone who doesn't use iphones that is sick and I wish I had that are you good are you okay 03:02:06.560 --> 03:02:10.880 are we are we over the calendar thing probably not and how the settings are not in the same 03:02:10.880 --> 03:02:16.320 place and that's objectively actually kind of stupid but but this isn't this is not stupid 03:02:16.320 --> 03:02:20.880 this is really good so they are they are this they're something that's not no they're not in 03:02:20.880 --> 03:02:26.000 the same place sort of are but they're also sometimes in a different place but not they're 03:02:26.000 --> 03:02:30.320 one time in a different place yeah yeah yeah which is except when they aren't in that different 03:02:30.320 --> 03:02:36.240 place yeah which is not intuitive yeah but this you know what makes something intuitive 03:02:36.240 --> 03:02:43.280 when someone who's never seen it before is like whoa that's really intuitive yeah that was pretty 03:02:43.280 --> 03:02:50.320 intuitive wasn't it yeah and oh man not having to like bananas sometimes swipe left and sometimes 03:02:50.320 --> 03:02:56.720 swipe out of a circle and sometimes press a circle on Android the call receiving like button 03:02:56.720 --> 03:03:04.240 it's just different depending on how someone's calling you it's incredibly stupid we can see 03:03:04.240 --> 03:03:13.840 the calendar for the acknowledgement of call history the apple nation has accepted the diplomatic 03:03:16.320 --> 03:03:22.400 so yeah i there's lots of things that i actually love about it that are objectively better dude 03:03:22.400 --> 03:03:29.840 the dedicated um the dedicated voice input button at the bottom of the screen that's just always 03:03:29.920 --> 03:03:34.000 right there whenever you have your keyboard up and you don't have to long press and it does 03:03:34.000 --> 03:03:38.560 punctuation automatically which is super cool there's there's tons of stuff that's really good 03:03:40.400 --> 03:03:46.720 i've got one my swift key one so i use a third party keyboard right ah i've been using the same 03:03:46.720 --> 03:03:50.880 third party keyboard for so long i don't remember what normal is so i use a third party keyboard 03:03:50.880 --> 03:03:56.560 and mine puts it way across the screen but with apple regardless of whether you're using a first 03:03:56.560 --> 03:04:01.680 party keyboard or a third party keyboard there's a voice input button that is independent of that 03:04:01.680 --> 03:04:11.360 and that's under it sure which is really intuitive sure there you go we good you got two things now 03:04:11.360 --> 03:04:17.200 yeah you got a bonus you owe the Android nation something is there a next topic no there's no 03:04:17.200 --> 03:04:24.880 other topic this is it leave uh i'm sorry that it's not intuitive that there isn't carcina asks 03:04:24.880 --> 03:04:27.840 in your experience does i cloud no no no i'm just kidding 03:04:31.280 --> 03:04:35.760 they want balance float plate chat wants balance they want a negative thing 03:04:44.640 --> 03:04:49.360 i want to try one honestly i've never done it an iphone yeah i tried an ipad and then 03:04:49.360 --> 03:04:53.040 immediately threw it out it's gonna say i feel like you'd go insane i would probably 03:04:53.120 --> 03:04:59.280 ipad we're not talking about this i love the ipad shut up Linus every time Android 03:04:59.280 --> 03:05:04.640 i was gonna say it is the superior tablet only with extreme custom firmware it's not even close 03:05:06.400 --> 03:05:11.840 Linus says someone who practices three two one backups are m discs or blue rays viable i bought 03:05:11.840 --> 03:05:16.400 some recently to backup archive some important stuff but now i'm wondering if my efforts are 03:05:16.400 --> 03:05:22.640 better spent elsewhere um very viable no m disc is totally a different class of storage device 03:05:22.640 --> 03:05:29.840 and tape are you familiar with them uh yeah but is he like actively using them uh well you don't 03:05:29.840 --> 03:05:36.240 they're just like an archival grade dvd essentially yeah yeah so if you have like uh like legal 03:05:36.240 --> 03:05:43.040 documents or something like that i would say out of tape m disc blue ray throw them on m discs 03:05:43.040 --> 03:05:49.040 that's that's the way to go for something that you really want to not rot um i would trust that more 03:05:49.040 --> 03:05:55.520 than a hard drive in storage that's actually been a big problem for um data recovery companies 03:05:55.520 --> 03:05:59.360 is some of those drives are getting so old that even if they're brand new and sitting in storage 03:05:59.360 --> 03:06:04.960 they're just like they don't last forever whereas m discs i think are rated for like 03:06:04.960 --> 03:06:08.240 thousand years or something like that i don't know that they'd actually last that long but 03:06:08.240 --> 03:06:13.200 they're rated for an extremely long time what is tape rated for um well it's more that it's 03:06:13.200 --> 03:06:20.000 more physically fragile a disc has no moving parts all right so i i would be personally 03:06:20.000 --> 03:06:25.760 a little more comfortable with with m disc um it's also like you can just get like a fireproof 03:06:25.760 --> 03:06:32.640 file cabinet and just you could store a functionally unlimited number of m discs in that compared to 03:06:32.640 --> 03:06:39.200 like tapes yeah um and and the tapes would store more especially like more modern um more modern 03:06:39.200 --> 03:06:44.720 tape formats but if you're in legal documents yeah then it's it's purely archival tiny files 03:06:44.720 --> 03:06:50.400 yeah and yeah there's small files anyway and if you're going back to and and having having like 03:06:50.400 --> 03:06:54.560 like smaller amounts and just like a ton of them and putting labels on them versus like 03:06:54.560 --> 03:06:58.800 how much how much stuff do you have to back up to this one tape before you finally put it in the 03:06:58.800 --> 03:07:04.640 archive i'd almost be afraid to like have a pending have enough data pending that i'm gonna 03:07:04.640 --> 03:07:08.080 fill up a tape before i can put it away do you kind of get what i mean don't you need special 03:07:08.080 --> 03:07:12.720 software for tape as well that remembers where all the data is on the tape itself you need uh 03:07:12.720 --> 03:07:18.000 and oh and you need an expensive uh reader and writer whereas m disc can be written on not quite 03:07:18.000 --> 03:07:25.200 commodity but slightly more expensive burners i didn't realize actually i yeah i didn't realize 03:07:25.200 --> 03:07:31.360 quite how not as long tape lasted as i thought yeah i know m disc sick i had a longer i don't use it 03:07:31.760 --> 03:07:33.760 though 03:07:37.920 --> 03:07:43.520 cool i just put it in an s3 bucket and let it be amazon's problem to delete all your data is it 03:07:43.520 --> 03:07:48.800 is it is it is it not intuitive it's not very intuitive i just put everything on iCloud i mean 03:07:48.800 --> 03:07:55.360 if it lasts a long time they should call it l disc yeah but then then when i think it's like 03:07:55.360 --> 03:08:05.840 Linus disc yeah i might not be very intuitive no i'm a small vintage tech youtuber with 1000 subs 03:08:05.840 --> 03:08:08.560 and you guys are a big influence they could call it long disc 03:08:11.760 --> 03:08:18.320 yeah i mean that might be a little unintuitive though because if the association is also Linus 03:08:18.320 --> 03:08:25.200 then people could get a false impression i mean you don't know well i guess i kind of know 03:08:26.880 --> 03:08:31.520 all right then avon fox what about a second disc a disc a disc 03:08:35.360 --> 03:08:40.000 it's okay disc moderately acceptable disc 03:08:40.000 --> 03:08:50.720 uh i'm okay all right 03:08:52.160 --> 03:08:58.560 hi yes Dan sorry hi i'm a small vintage youtuber uh with about a thousand subs and you guys are a 03:08:58.560 --> 03:09:03.920 big influence to me would you ever take a small creator and have your team punch up a vid to see 03:09:03.920 --> 03:09:13.280 how much pro editing can drive views interesting it's more than just editing i mean it's writing 03:09:13.280 --> 03:09:18.720 hosting editing topic selection thumbnail there's Ludwig did a really interesting pieces experiment 03:09:18.720 --> 03:09:27.600 a while ago actually where um he tried to see how successful he could be as a new youtuber using none 03:09:27.600 --> 03:09:34.320 of his contacts not using his own likeness his own face or anything like that uh basically trying 03:09:34.320 --> 03:09:39.760 to pick a topic using i think it was like someone else's voice and doing a like image slash video 03:09:39.760 --> 03:09:46.080 with a voice uh with voice over thing i don't know i don't know if i would find this uh Ludwig 03:09:47.760 --> 03:09:54.560 someone already find the link holy crikey dude yeah that was fast thanks nerdy our 03:09:54.560 --> 03:10:01.520 nerd oh okay um Ludwig i made a secret youtube channel to prove it's not like this was wildly 03:10:01.520 --> 03:10:09.440 successful um this video is genuinely super interesting he talks about uh topic selection 03:10:10.320 --> 03:10:16.880 he talked about how how he was able to promote it so like he wrote this video the title is really 03:10:16.880 --> 03:10:23.440 good how a door made this man a million dollars like i would click on that i want to click it now 03:10:23.440 --> 03:10:27.920 it's about something that he knows so it's about another streamer named miss kiff i don't think 03:10:27.920 --> 03:10:33.360 he actually used like technically insider knowledge that someone else couldn't know i don't remember 03:10:33.360 --> 03:10:38.080 it's i watched this a long time ago so he kind of artificially through his own prior knowledge 03:10:38.720 --> 03:10:44.320 created a very meticulously researched video that someone else could have made yeah i think 03:10:44.320 --> 03:10:49.200 that was it i'm pretty sure um and then he he shows about like promoting it stuff too so creating 03:10:49.200 --> 03:10:52.880 the channel he goes through all those details yeah making a thumbnail blah blah blah blah blah 03:10:54.000 --> 03:10:59.680 and then at some point time i don't remember where it is yeah he he like promotes it because 03:10:59.680 --> 03:11:07.520 he chose making a video about a streamer who does reaction videos so that he could link it 03:11:07.520 --> 03:11:13.360 in their stream and they would likely watch it because like if you if we if we if someone 03:11:13.360 --> 03:11:17.920 linked us a video like hey someone made a video i don't know it's it's likely i don't think it's 03:11:17.920 --> 03:11:22.880 likely not for us not for us but a lot of other people were not that edgy and especially not 03:11:22.880 --> 03:11:29.120 right now um but a lot of streamers would so he links it to them and then they actually do watch 03:11:29.120 --> 03:11:34.720 it on stream at some point um that gets it a bunch of traction people liked the video he tells them 03:11:34.720 --> 03:11:39.600 to go subscribe whatever and it starts the channel off and it's it's like it's really interesting 03:11:39.600 --> 03:11:45.920 because he genuinely goes through all the steps um yeah this is this is like miss kiff watching the 03:11:45.920 --> 03:11:52.240 video i guess yeah that's him watching it i don't remember if they actually show the like metrics 03:11:52.240 --> 03:12:01.760 of the channel what's the fair use situation of ludwig using miss kiff's reaction video of ludwig's 03:12:01.760 --> 03:12:13.040 video that he made is it is it intuitive uh yeah i don't i don't remember like how well it did 03:12:13.760 --> 03:12:16.720 but i mean first time video and we're talking about views from different 03:12:17.280 --> 03:12:25.600 areas in the in the thousands like that's pretty cool yeah that's very cool so i don't know you 03:12:25.600 --> 03:12:31.600 can do it i don't necessarily think it's like just particularly having good editing or just having 03:12:31.600 --> 03:12:37.760 particularly good something else you need to bring everything together um for it to be intuitive 03:12:37.760 --> 03:12:41.120 yeah i mean i think that i think it would i think it could be 03:12:42.320 --> 03:12:48.320 i think it could be an interesting experiment but it would have to be we'd have to be all in 03:12:48.880 --> 03:12:53.680 like you'd basically we basically have to like like bring a production crew to you 03:12:54.480 --> 03:13:01.840 you'd have to kind of tell us okay here's five concepts that i have um we'd kind of have to 03:13:01.840 --> 03:13:08.400 massage them and go okay this is your best one this is probably your strongest angle for it 03:13:08.400 --> 03:13:14.000 oh one and a half million views okay i mean it's riding on the back of this video which has six 03:13:14.000 --> 03:13:19.120 point five million views hard to evaluate now yeah um so we'd have to come all the way out there 03:13:19.120 --> 03:13:24.240 we'd probably have to kind of use our process right you'd tell us kind of everything you know 03:13:24.800 --> 03:13:30.960 and then i would lay out all the like the intro the story beats the conclusion we'd figure out how 03:13:30.960 --> 03:13:36.560 to package it can we make a youtuber you would yeah you would sit there and you would read the you 03:13:36.560 --> 03:13:41.680 would read the the script but i don't know if uh if you're on Floatplane you might have seen this 03:13:41.680 --> 03:13:47.280 before um but there's uh there's a behind the scenes of me working with uh ryan shroud and 03:13:47.280 --> 03:13:52.080 tom peterson who both at the time read Intel i think shroud's moved on i think tap's still there 03:13:52.560 --> 03:13:59.120 um but basically there's a behind the scenes of me coaching them on their part in our video on 03:13:59.120 --> 03:14:07.440 Intel arc uh where effectively i just say okay repeat exactly after me 03:14:09.760 --> 03:14:16.000 and what's really special about this product is and what's really special about this product is 03:14:16.000 --> 03:14:22.400 so essentially like like like showing them the exact intonation that they need in order to make 03:14:22.400 --> 03:14:27.520 the delivery a little bit more dynamic and engaging so i would probably have to do that 03:14:27.520 --> 03:14:31.600 unless you're amazing at it already which you might be at i'm not you didn't even say 03:14:31.600 --> 03:14:36.240 exactly what your channel was so i'm not sure what it is and then from there we would have to 03:14:36.240 --> 03:14:39.920 kind of show you okay well what does it look like to put together all the guidance for the visuals 03:14:39.920 --> 03:14:48.000 that are going to support this then we'd edit it then we'd edit it um and at that point i don't 03:14:48.000 --> 03:14:56.160 know it's tough like um we haven't really answered your question like how much pro editing drives it 03:14:56.160 --> 03:15:04.880 because there's so much more to the editing process than just the edit so i don't know what to tell you 03:15:05.680 --> 03:15:12.960 yeah Linus what advice would you give a young canadian business owner i'm from ontario run 03:15:17.440 --> 03:15:22.000 to LTT Store and get these good deals um um 03:15:28.880 --> 03:15:38.320 it's been a long week uh be prepared the whole world scar let alone let alone canada is in 03:15:40.400 --> 03:15:47.360 has been you know in not great economics yeah space for a while now um this is a new thing 03:15:47.440 --> 03:15:54.320 everyone talks about the impact on consumers of inflation because most people are consumers 03:15:54.320 --> 03:16:00.720 rather than business owners but businesses are absolutely impacted by it as well yeah and and 03:16:00.720 --> 03:16:05.680 on both ends right because on the one side you've got your suppliers or your partners 03:16:05.680 --> 03:16:12.160 demanding more because of inflation and then on the other side you've got your your labor force 03:16:12.160 --> 03:16:16.800 demanding more because of the impact of inflation on them so in a way you're kind of caught in a 03:16:16.800 --> 03:16:20.480 squeeze if you increase the price of your product some people might not be able to afford it anymore 03:16:20.480 --> 03:16:25.920 despite everything else because they might not be getting raises from their companies to keep up 03:16:25.920 --> 03:16:32.640 even if you're giving your people um raises so you're you're you might have less less um revenue 03:16:32.640 --> 03:16:42.720 and hazaifa asks uh Linus and luke trudeau or pierre yes no we have a de facto two-party system luke 03:16:43.680 --> 03:16:52.240 no i know but yes wasn't it so cool when he was like i'm gonna get rid of first past the post 03:16:52.240 --> 03:16:58.800 he was like it's dawn dude i'm getting rid of it bro it's obviously really stupid and you 03:16:58.800 --> 03:17:05.120 all voted me in for this reason so i'm definitely gonna do it i am uh and then i didn't i know that 03:17:05.120 --> 03:17:11.600 there's been plenty of other things hell yeah that captain jt has um has screwed up demotum 03:17:11.600 --> 03:17:18.400 but the one that i am actually by far by far the most angry about is that first pass the post 03:17:18.400 --> 03:17:26.960 yeah it enrages me as well like election reform is something that um you know i would think that 03:17:26.960 --> 03:17:32.400 canadians and americans uh the need for election reform i would think is something that canadians 03:17:32.400 --> 03:17:40.720 and americans should probably uh all be pretty aligned on at the citizen level um and the fact 03:17:40.800 --> 03:17:45.840 that they that he promised he was gonna get that done and then was like psych 03:17:48.800 --> 03:17:57.280 not cool jt not cool bruh not cool bruh there's like a way there was a our own province 03:17:57.280 --> 03:18:04.800 for the americans that's the same thing as a state well it's not yeah that's fair yeah uh anyways 03:18:04.800 --> 03:18:10.800 it's like a state except it's like it's actually part of canada instead of like wanting to be 03:18:10.800 --> 03:18:17.920 its own thing completely yeah yeah but except for alberta and kebek they also want to do their own 03:18:17.920 --> 03:18:27.040 thing except for a lot of them anyways i'm not sure how stokes the prairies are on the whole 03:18:27.040 --> 03:18:32.880 like commonwealth either but you know whatever yeah bc kind of hides on the other side of the 03:18:32.880 --> 03:18:38.720 rockies and pretends we're part of washington yeah yeah we are us washington state and oregon 03:18:38.720 --> 03:18:44.480 state as far as i can tell like like if the whole if the whole rest of the world went to crap 03:18:44.480 --> 03:18:48.800 i think i we could probably get you con in there like i i think if the whole rest of the world 03:18:48.800 --> 03:18:53.520 went to crap we could all probably kind of come together and be like pacific north westland 03:18:54.160 --> 03:19:03.520 yeah yeah we like it wet um uh i was gonna say yeah we had a we had a provincial election here 03:19:03.520 --> 03:19:09.600 recently and i i was looking into it because i was like i want to be an informed voter and i 03:19:09.600 --> 03:19:14.160 i found the like the platforms page for the three parties he sends this to me in the middle of the 03:19:14.320 --> 03:19:25.120 night he's like oh my god what are you talking about the like it really felt like genuinely 03:19:25.120 --> 03:19:33.280 someone in grade four was like um this would be uh i don't know they're like ask chat gpt like how 03:19:33.280 --> 03:19:37.280 should i make a bad political campaign and they were like i don't know do this and then they actually 03:19:37.280 --> 03:19:42.640 published it like it's stunning that people put this on paper and i mean that for both of the main 03:19:42.640 --> 03:19:50.480 two parties think about it when you were in grade 11 grade 12 okay and you like put together a project 03:19:50.480 --> 03:19:56.000 on something and you like did some research or whatever and you did a presentation at the front 03:19:56.000 --> 03:20:04.480 of the class seems like it went further than those that as far as i can tell a lot of people 03:20:04.480 --> 03:20:10.160 never really progressed past that in terms of like their research and presentation 03:20:10.160 --> 03:20:15.600 and data compilation skills and and and you you would think you would think of all i mean you 03:20:15.600 --> 03:20:20.000 know these are people in like a position of you know where it's really important for them to be able 03:20:20.000 --> 03:20:27.600 to do that's been a wild realization like as an adult and it's it still gets me it still gets me 03:20:27.600 --> 03:20:33.520 often where i'm like oh like this person's coming from from i don't know this this company or this 03:20:33.520 --> 03:20:38.400 this area of expertise or whatever educational background and you start conversing with them 03:20:38.400 --> 03:20:41.680 and you're like oh okay like this is gonna be great i'm gonna like i'm gonna learn so much it's 03:20:41.680 --> 03:20:47.680 gonna be so so useful or interesting or whatever the scenario that you're in is and then you start 03:20:47.680 --> 03:20:56.400 actually working with them and you're like oh okay you're just like a dude well everyone's just a 03:20:56.400 --> 03:21:02.720 dude yeah like that's the thing right all right like we i don't know it's funny we we we leave 03:21:02.720 --> 03:21:06.720 you know school where we look around at all our peers and we're like everyone's just a dude 03:21:07.600 --> 03:21:13.840 and then we go into the real world and we're like oh you're a librarian and you're a dentist and 03:21:13.840 --> 03:21:19.440 you're a bus driver and you're this and you're that and it's like no no no no you're all just 03:21:19.440 --> 03:21:22.960 dudes i think the hope you're doing those things i think the hope is that when you're in high school 03:21:22.960 --> 03:21:27.040 you're you're like progressing so much year to year that when you leave high school i think 03:21:27.040 --> 03:21:30.960 i think there's probably still some amount of assumption that like you're really gonna be 03:21:30.960 --> 03:21:36.000 progressing a lot so like if someone worked in a field for 20 years you're gonna expect like 03:21:36.800 --> 03:21:41.200 this unobtainium feeling level of of expertise i don't know that does exist 03:21:43.200 --> 03:21:45.600 sometimes it's that oh it totally does for sure 03:21:46.560 --> 03:21:52.640 luke i don't know what was more enlightening for me when i had children and realized that 03:21:53.920 --> 03:21:59.600 kids are just tiny adults yep or yeah sorry i keep 03:22:00.480 --> 03:22:02.960 or when the inverse dawned on me 03:22:06.000 --> 03:22:08.560 just a bunch of really big kids walking around 03:22:10.480 --> 03:22:12.320 and to be clear to be clear 03:22:13.760 --> 03:22:20.720 present party included i don't know some kind of paragon of maturity let's be real here oh yeah 03:22:20.720 --> 03:22:27.760 dude i still i still feel like i have honestly a lot of the state the same wants and desires and 03:22:28.160 --> 03:22:34.720 inverse not converse that i did when i was 15 14 honestly like 03:22:36.000 --> 03:22:40.320 you know the approach might be different did we crystallize like way younger than i think 03:22:40.320 --> 03:22:44.960 people are comfortable thinking about yeah like going to my 20 year high school reunion i'm like 03:22:46.800 --> 03:22:50.640 yeah did you go yeah why not i haven't gone anywhere yeah i don't know i 03:22:51.600 --> 03:22:59.120 take don't be too cool to go to a reunion it's not even that i just yeah not what not totally is 03:22:59.680 --> 03:23:05.200 i've yeah most of the people that i've talked to about it it basically boiled down to like 03:23:05.200 --> 03:23:10.320 i'm too cool to care about this no i said i i'm still in contact with honestly a lot of people 03:23:10.320 --> 03:23:16.160 from my high school sure so like i don't know we'll like go have a campfire with like 20 of them 03:23:16.160 --> 03:23:20.320 this is my reunion but that's not the reunion yeah that's not the point of it 03:23:20.320 --> 03:23:25.680 i'm not saying i'm too cool for the other one i just don't care but it's not because i'm too cool 03:23:25.680 --> 03:23:34.480 i objectively don't think i'm cool i just i'll let you guys unpack all of that i'm not gonna go 03:23:34.480 --> 03:23:41.120 yeah yep i'm not interested yeah charge nuclei says it's because everyone else is less cool 03:23:42.080 --> 03:23:47.840 deep blue v says sure luke sure no i just i don't care fox says which makes you cool i think if 03:23:47.840 --> 03:23:53.440 you're not in contact with a bunch of people from your high school it could be good also in the age 03:23:53.440 --> 03:23:57.760 of facebook i think that's another big change because there there are people from my high 03:23:57.760 --> 03:24:01.200 school that i'm not actively in contact with that every once in a blue moon i'm like i wonder what 03:24:01.200 --> 03:24:08.240 they're up to and then i go click oh and then i'm done i didn't need more than that i don't know 03:24:08.240 --> 03:24:14.000 look i i only stayed for about 15 minutes yeah because well because uh it was one of my kid's 03:24:14.000 --> 03:24:20.080 birthday party that day okay and so i was like well i i'd like to go i'll go show my face say hi 03:24:20.080 --> 03:24:26.560 and you know see what see if there's anyone that i recognize um some of them i didn't 03:24:26.560 --> 03:24:32.960 i like i had a pretty big class and i was a loser so like i was actually not cool you're a pretty 03:24:32.960 --> 03:24:39.360 big class you didn't go to like a i thought you went to like a a farm school basically well yeah 03:24:39.600 --> 03:24:44.000 well are you commuting it well i had to drive a fair bit to get there it was like 20 minute drive 03:24:44.000 --> 03:24:48.800 how big was your great your your my well when i say pretty big class i mean for me to remember 03:24:48.800 --> 03:24:53.840 all the names and faces like our our school was about i want to say about 1500 or something like 03:24:53.840 --> 03:24:58.240 that so my class was a few hundred people i think yeah i think you're at a bigger school but part of 03:24:58.240 --> 03:25:04.960 the problem for me is that um i was in the like i was i was kind of in my like streamlined pod 03:25:05.680 --> 03:25:13.920 um so i was taking like challenge courses and ap courses so i saw a lot of the same like 25 people 03:25:13.920 --> 03:25:19.040 and i saw very little of the rest of the 90s percent of the class oh interesting i saw i saw a lot of 03:25:19.040 --> 03:25:25.120 those folks in like i took metal art and jewelry um we had a really small shop believe it or not 03:25:25.120 --> 03:25:32.800 so like we only had one ap course if i remember correctly there's ap english oh yeah okay like 03:25:32.800 --> 03:25:38.720 there wasn't like so you you were often like i was quite mixed amongst everybody we only for ap i 03:25:38.720 --> 03:25:47.840 think we only had english as well so challenge was just our internal like uh name for like a slightly 03:25:47.840 --> 03:25:52.320 more challenging version of what is essentially the same curriculum never even heard whereas ap is 03:25:52.320 --> 03:25:57.520 its own like separate entity that like organizes things oh Dan is saying we're over time oh we're 03:25:57.600 --> 03:26:06.000 over time yeah um you okay look i am still good but not for like a long time okay cool yeah i just 03:26:06.000 --> 03:26:13.120 needed to check in yeah no that's good let me just wrap up pretty soon yeah yeah i don't know i'm not 03:26:13.120 --> 03:26:20.720 like against it i just i just don't care it's got facebook spoken like it sounds like a very cool 03:26:20.720 --> 03:26:26.720 answer i met somebody oh my goodness oh my you know i met somebody you know it's like whatever man like 03:26:27.520 --> 03:26:31.440 yeah we're all just kind of going through life i'm just not that into it i could go to the hyso 03:26:31.440 --> 03:26:36.240 reunion i could do it but like i don't know or i could do something way more important and sexy 03:26:37.840 --> 03:26:43.120 could hang out with my beautiful partner and my my birds and my cool yeah my birds are pretty 03:26:43.120 --> 03:26:50.160 cool okay cool friend i i met somebody at the gym that uh i went to something heavy went to 03:26:50.160 --> 03:26:54.080 elementary and middle school with and that was cool but they don't do like elementary and middle 03:26:54.080 --> 03:26:59.200 school reunions like those people i actually don't have contact with anymore any of them so you would 03:26:59.200 --> 03:27:03.760 go because i was pre facebook you would go to a grade seven reunion yeah actually interesting 03:27:03.760 --> 03:27:06.960 because i don't remember almost any of their names i don't have any contact with them anymore 03:27:06.960 --> 03:27:10.880 because that was pre facebook and stuff you know what's funny is i actually had the exact same 03:27:10.960 --> 03:27:17.680 thought like two weekends ago i was back in ladner and i was at sharky's bar and grill with my my 03:27:17.680 --> 03:27:22.960 grandparents the kids great grandparents and the more i think of it this is more true and the the 03:27:22.960 --> 03:27:29.840 waitress bore a striking resemblance to someone that i went to school with the age wasn't right 03:27:29.840 --> 03:27:35.200 like they were younger yeah but i was like holy crap i wonder if they're a relative of of this 03:27:35.200 --> 03:27:41.520 girl i went to school with um i didn't want to ask because people don't interact in person anymore 03:27:41.520 --> 03:27:45.920 yeah and it'd be like a weird thing to ask someone speaking is weird hey do you have a relative 03:27:45.920 --> 03:27:51.920 do you have a relative named whatever like you look like someone i know it it almost seems like 03:27:51.920 --> 03:27:57.920 a pickup line you know oh yeah really well you never know people people apparently just like 03:27:57.920 --> 03:28:02.720 don't approach each other in person anymore so so anything sounds like a pickup line i would think 03:28:02.720 --> 03:28:06.880 so fair enough and i was just like it was unnecessary i don't actually care that much so 03:28:06.880 --> 03:28:12.880 i wasn't gonna like say anything weird uh aragoth says yeah that's a fair concern in my opinion 03:28:13.440 --> 03:28:17.360 make as advised says i accidentally picked up a girl that way okay so there you go 03:28:17.360 --> 03:28:22.880 i'm apparently not completely crazy i do think it would have been fine i was there with my wife 03:28:22.880 --> 03:28:27.760 and my kids and my grandparents like yeah that kind of diffuses a lot of that clearly i'm not 03:28:27.760 --> 03:28:34.160 making a move but never underestimate how scummy a dude could be so and modern relationships sometimes 03:28:35.280 --> 03:28:42.240 exactly who knows exactly who knows who those kids are actually born from yeah yep um 03:28:43.280 --> 03:28:49.760 what about second wife says mind still anyway uh the point is it it made me think about someone 03:28:49.760 --> 03:28:55.360 that i hadn't thought about in yeah a bazillion years and i was like dude how cool would that be 03:28:55.360 --> 03:29:00.560 because this came on the heels of my aunt telling me because she ran into the mom of like 03:29:00.560 --> 03:29:06.480 my elementary school bff who was like oh yeah he's like moving to north vancouver and like has a kid 03:29:06.480 --> 03:29:14.160 and stuff and i was like it's crazy to think about what yeah um yeah like i don't know i i think that 03:29:14.160 --> 03:29:21.600 would be cool like i've left i left my elementary school my first elementary school after grade two 03:29:22.000 --> 03:29:32.720 so like being able to be like hey remember me no i have i why i i uh i'm pretty cool 03:29:39.280 --> 03:29:44.880 i don't even want to like tell this story i mean i think you're committed now so let's go cool guy 03:29:44.880 --> 03:29:50.880 i think it was grade one i kissed some girl wow that's pretty cool like who the heck was that 03:29:52.560 --> 03:30:00.480 you kiss girls you don't even remember them no and this guy says no i'm not cool damn i don't 03:30:00.480 --> 03:30:07.360 know i've i've held so many hands i don't even know i don't even know how many hands i've held 03:30:08.720 --> 03:30:12.880 if i remember correctly i've had so many cups of tea if i remember correctly one of us was like 03:30:12.880 --> 03:30:19.120 hurt or something i pulled on so many pigtails my god if i remember correctly what i got so many 03:30:19.120 --> 03:30:26.000 cooties i'm just gonna go for it anyways and uh whichever one actually like initiated it did 03:30:26.000 --> 03:30:29.520 so because like their parents would do that when they were hurt to try to calm them down 03:30:29.520 --> 03:30:33.920 so it wasn't it wasn't we're in grade like one it was what you thought oh he's he's been emotionally 03:30:33.920 --> 03:30:40.400 intelligent and caring since wow my look at this guy god you're cool god you're so cool i can't 03:30:40.400 --> 03:30:47.840 handle you guys uh damn my my paradox says uh yeah definitely friends from grade school i'd love 03:30:47.840 --> 03:30:53.280 to see again but high school no interest in talking to all the any of them now i have a 03:30:53.280 --> 03:30:58.480 hypothesis here and that is not that the people you went to grade school with are like better in 03:30:58.480 --> 03:31:02.000 some way but rather that they were at a stage in their life where they hadn't turned into complete 03:31:02.000 --> 03:31:07.840 f***ing pigtails yet and so that makes the the elementary school reunion interesting though i see 03:31:07.840 --> 03:31:11.520 okay because you didn't get to see that process so it's like what what happened in the gap 03:31:12.400 --> 03:31:18.800 how did you get why how do you look like this basically yeah i do you go from like that kid 03:31:18.800 --> 03:31:25.840 that was fun to play soccer with to like i don't know who knows add facials to just says luke's 03:31:25.840 --> 03:31:35.680 just a stand-up guy stop oh man yeah okay uh what's going on more we got i got the more 03:31:36.640 --> 03:31:40.400 okay we got some more we got some cool people sending merge messages yes 03:31:41.520 --> 03:31:46.400 how many is there left you wish they were let's let's try to let's try to power through these 03:31:46.400 --> 03:31:52.640 okay i wish there was marino underwear available they're wonderful do you know why some websites 03:31:52.640 --> 03:31:58.080 don't let you open certain links in a new i hate that oh my god i know as a habitual control clicker 03:31:58.080 --> 03:32:03.040 it's infuriating when i can't i hate it so much also middle clicking does the same thing and it's 03:32:03.040 --> 03:32:08.720 my favorite i hate it so much i hate it so much okay so watch this watch this okay so if i'm in 03:32:08.720 --> 03:32:15.440 the dashboard and i want to switch accounts and i right click and i right click to oh my god i left 03:32:15.440 --> 03:32:20.320 clicked okay it doesn't matter the point is if i want to switch accounts and i right click i want 03:32:20.320 --> 03:32:28.480 to open a new tab where is my opening a new tab why isn't it there it's not intuitive 03:32:31.840 --> 03:32:32.720 i love this man 03:32:35.440 --> 03:32:41.600 not me just making sure you can do the yes that works okay cool all right good so vindicated 03:32:42.240 --> 03:32:47.440 is there any pricing available for the commuter backpack i'm hoping $150 or less so i can just 03:32:47.440 --> 03:32:55.840 justify upgrading my upgrading my wife upgrading to my upgrading so i can justify upgrading to my 03:32:55.840 --> 03:33:07.280 wife from the $50 backgrab i'm still using from high school this is the least into an 03:33:07.280 --> 03:33:12.480 emergency message i've ever read to my wife upgrading from the $15 backpack where are you 03:33:12.480 --> 03:33:19.600 storing things in your wife that's quite the upgrade though i can't do this 03:33:21.200 --> 03:33:27.520 not a very intuitive upgrading from my wife upgrading my wife from the $50 backpack i'm 03:33:27.520 --> 03:33:36.160 still using from high school okay i hurt my hand it's not too bad it's not too bad it's not too 03:33:36.160 --> 03:33:42.240 bad um uh we're not announcing the pricing yet i i we now said a little early i think 03:33:42.880 --> 03:33:48.160 the backpack the commuter bag well we got a we got a we got a wait list we got an email newsletter 03:33:48.160 --> 03:33:55.040 yeah yeah yeah i don't know we got a drum up we ordered a few oh based on the newsletter or 03:33:55.040 --> 03:34:01.280 just preemptively just based based just based just based not on anything just based like on a 03:34:01.360 --> 03:34:11.120 like on a f***ing turkey based yeah yeah get that meat yeah get that meat gravy 03:34:13.440 --> 03:34:17.520 okay we need to get out of here this is what happens if we go past 830 03:34:18.960 --> 03:34:26.400 next Wednesday keep going hey dill was using my LTT stubby to fix my dishwasher before when 03:34:26.400 --> 03:34:30.640 chose uh how well can i expect it to hold up to water i don't know you tell me it should be 03:34:30.640 --> 03:34:36.080 fine the bits might rust a little bit because they're like iron and stuff yeah yeah shaft's okay 03:34:36.080 --> 03:34:39.200 yeah yeah just based it based shaft 03:34:44.320 --> 03:34:48.000 all right keep going okay all right sorry sorry the last one i got for you hey 03:34:51.120 --> 03:34:57.040 with your focus on transparency will there be any more how LTT makes money videos i know 03:34:58.000 --> 03:35:04.480 were you used against you but uh can you look past that i really hope that people were 03:35:05.280 --> 03:35:10.960 not here during the start of the show chat understood it apparently but yeah um 03:35:12.880 --> 03:35:16.720 i think someone internally pitched a little while ago it might have been adam 03:35:16.720 --> 03:35:26.480 i think it was adam i'm not sure don't quote don't quote me on that i might be wrong about that someone pitched it internally a little while ago i think we are due for one um i don't know guys 03:35:26.480 --> 03:35:31.280 like it's uh it's one of those things where someone in football players i wouldn't the old video 03:35:31.840 --> 03:35:36.800 still basically apply no i mean and that's the thing right and that that's why that 03:35:36.800 --> 03:35:45.280 transparency is not just once right like if you if you have a a window in into the front of your 03:35:45.280 --> 03:35:51.200 house right and you open it for a second and then you close it that's not transparency that's a glimpse 03:35:51.200 --> 03:35:59.360 you know uh transparency is a process it's a mindset it's ongoing and um and so i think 03:35:59.360 --> 03:36:08.480 in the interest of transparency yeah um i'd like to do another one but after sort of 03:36:08.480 --> 03:36:14.160 experiencing the way that people take what i say in those kinds of behind the scenes looks and 03:36:14.880 --> 03:36:22.720 extrapolate or um or twist um what i'm saying to turn it into something that i didn't say 03:36:24.240 --> 03:36:30.080 i don't know it it definitely it definitely makes me like that one time that you said that the iphone 03:36:30.080 --> 03:36:37.680 was an unintuitive mess yeah and had no redeeming qualities yes like the time i said that um it's 03:36:37.680 --> 03:36:43.680 really challenging right because i i can't reasonably expect people every individual person 03:36:43.680 --> 03:36:49.040 out there to be familiar with everything i've ever said right and so you'll see like bad faith 03:36:49.040 --> 03:36:55.680 statements like Linus always criticizes the iphone he never criticizes Android so mean um 03:36:57.120 --> 03:37:05.680 and i think this is one of those content pieces for us that um have a super high potential for 03:37:05.680 --> 03:37:12.560 that for people to see just this and and not see the bigger picture or to see it and not believe it 03:37:12.560 --> 03:37:16.800 and um and i'm putting myself in a position where they just wouldn't have been thinking about it 03:37:17.520 --> 03:37:22.960 if i didn't bring it up i think that's probably the biggest danger is i talk about like you know 03:37:22.960 --> 03:37:27.200 i talk about the sponsorship so i talk about integrations or i talk about merch or i talk 03:37:27.200 --> 03:37:31.600 about Floatplane or you know all the other ways that um that Linus media group makes money and 03:37:31.600 --> 03:37:34.880 you've got you know the people on the one side that are going that that couldn't be all of it 03:37:34.880 --> 03:37:39.920 they're what are they hiding right and then you've got the um and then you've got the people that are 03:37:39.920 --> 03:37:46.000 like oh my god i can't believe that they make so much off of like sponsorships and merch that they 03:37:46.000 --> 03:37:53.360 can pay like you know 100 people um i i didn't you know i didn't think about that before i thought 03:37:53.360 --> 03:37:59.360 that you know Linus was just my friend or whatever it's like bro why is it a conversation that i'm 03:37:59.360 --> 03:38:04.160 even opening up at this point like during wenches you know two and a half three hours into wancho 03:38:04.160 --> 03:38:08.480 or whatever we are right now what whatever yeah we're three and a half hours into wancho it's 03:38:08.480 --> 03:38:11.600 like yeah fine we can kind of talk about this stuff because realistically the only people 03:38:11.600 --> 03:38:17.760 are going to make that make it past me insulting their precious iOS are going to be people who 03:38:17.760 --> 03:38:27.600 i think can at least based Android users let's go i think are people who can um see the bigger 03:38:27.600 --> 03:38:33.360 picture of what we're trying to say and see that you know for all of our flaws we're trying and 03:38:33.440 --> 03:38:41.680 sort of take things um take things that we say and take the things that we do um 03:38:44.640 --> 03:38:51.280 with a positive with a set of positive assumptions rather than a set of negative assumptions whereas 03:38:51.280 --> 03:38:58.160 like a mainline channel video it's not really like that so we'll see i think that uh right now 03:38:58.160 --> 03:39:02.000 this is not a good time of year to go bug the accounting department to create a bunch of extra 03:39:02.000 --> 03:39:09.440 like presentation slides for us they they've got to do a lot of new good but new goalposts 03:39:09.440 --> 03:39:17.120 things to work on yeah but maybe next year we'll see okay uh can cano asks timeline for backpack 03:39:17.120 --> 03:39:21.040 carabiners you should have them already if you don't contact support 03:39:24.080 --> 03:39:27.760 and i'll see you again next week same bad time same bad channel bye 03:39:32.960 --> 03:39:35.360 dude it was so hard not to talk about this 03:39:36.960 --> 03:39:39.680 oh you can't lean over here i know it's fine 03:39:43.040 --> 03:39:54.960 i know right