On my show before yeah, yeah, I know I've seen it. I've seen it before I didn't remember the name
I never remember the names of like anything though, so that's not surprising
Say my name say my name. I was explained to Sammy
Lance?
I was explaining to Sammy how I have to Careful with that one figure out my my birthday. Don't think I don't know where you're going with that Dan. I was going nowhere
I was going nowhere. I was just gibberish. Yeah. Yeah, yeah a hundred percent
Yeah, but actually though. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah
Sorry, what are we talking about? Are we are we live? I don't know. I appreciate it. Yeah. Oh, it's up y'all
We're time for a yard
All right, should we do this thing? No, okay. See you later. Okay, right?
Have a good one
Um, are we ever gonna play Anna again? I'd be down. I like Anna
It's so it's such a commitment. That's the problem
Sort of like games, you know, it would be less of a commitment if it was on friggin steam
We could just have the built-in steam notes thing. Mm-hmm. Oh
It's like I don't remember what I was doing last time. Yeah, and like I yeah, you can do a Google doc or whatever
But you don't want to yeah, that's not slaying. Yeah
Okay, I guess we could start whatever but I put this thing on that I'm not gonna talk about yet
And it made me want to go to sleep I'm not even I'm not even kidding. That is kind of the intent. I almost immediately was like I want to be in a
comfortable camping chair by a fire having like s'mores or something. Yeah vibin
Yeah, buddy
Products that make you feel something
Um, oh my god signing into anything it's just
such a freaking Pain in the buttocks these days. What do you think of ready or not the game?
I think the AI is infuriating I keep trying to go for the whatever it's called the golden watch or whatever by doing doing the whole campaign and
I As far as I can tell the closest I've ever gotten is by just telling the AI to halt at the beginning of the mission
And then soloing the entire thing because if I don't do that, they just screw it up. It's so frustrating. They're so bad
Dude, I don't know how people ever got into the Rainbow Six franchise
Because like the OG ones. Yeah, the early games. They're completely. I'm sorry. No offense. You're tasting games is great
They're unplayable Garbage having to deal with that AI like it's not that's not fun to me
Just like having what I'm doing completely ruined through no fault of my own because of my boneheaded allies
Yeah, like no, man
No, man
Yeah, I tried I tried giving my AI pepper guns as well
But my problem is they'll just just like walk out in front of enemy fire and die. It's like you need to stop
All right I
I'm concerned about Lena Kahn me too
Protect Lena Kahn. Yep. It won't happen. She's gone. She's done need Lena. Dude. She's done
Can we import her to Canada? I'd be down. I'd be down
She could run Canada. Yeah, I'd be down. I'd be down
I would instantly vote
But sounds like the brand Bronzebeard crap. No, I don't and I don't even know what you're talking about. Sorry
Raquel asks what is that thing between you two you sound like Yvonne
It's a piece of plexiglass I am sick
So and I I was sick For like almost half of 2024. So I just really
I'm so tired of being sick. Yeah. Oh my goodness
Ah Rescue weasel asks can we keep politics out and have a good win show dude? We didn't we didn't choose to be where we are
So much tech Just it it depends on policy
Yeah, and it depends on policy from people who either don't understand it or seem to be hell bent on
Interpreting it in the least consumer
Benefiting possible way and to be to be fair as far as my understanding goes Lena Khan was at risk with whoever god voted it
So like this this was actually not I don't I think that's almost like not even politics. She is just a supreme bad ass
Yeah, I don't like I as far as my understanding goes. There was a there was a risk with either one getting in so I'm not even like
We're not even really talking about that Yeah, I was worried about it either way. I just I hope by some miracle. She's able to
Stay in her position because I think she's very good. Yeah, if if any elected representative at any level of government
for you Does anything to not protect Lena Khan?
You know that they are not looking out for your best interests and you should just vote them out next time
Yeah, I feel the same way like immediately. She is
Basically every single time she opens her mouth. I'm like
Holy holy crap. That's amazing a government official that actually gets it. Yeah
Yeah
A person 123 says it's physically impossible to protect her. It's just over
A handyman. Yep Kamala wanted to remove her as well due to her tech connections. Yeah, I don't know
Um, I don't you know, I'm not fully in the weeds on that stuff
It's just all I'm saying is I it doesn't I understand it's like technically a political thing
I just don't think it's that political because both parties were like, yeah had reasons to remove her. So it feels pretty
Either team to me Yeah
Such a bummer. Yeah Oh, well, there's very few times
That I've been like, wow this person that holds some form of political office is like awesome
Smoking says luke likes trump Linus is pissed. So he put up plexiglass
You know what, you know what my I'm gonna go with that I'm gonna go with that on the show
My joke before the stream was that uh, we never see each other anymore
So now I just I see you on the screen all the time. So I just I wanted it to be more
Like real life
We even work in the same office now, but I still never see you at the office
Um, got him. All right, should we do this thing?
As far as I can tell the the tuesday pod out in the warehouse might as well be my office right mechatronics dragon calm down
What do you do? He's not being calm
Just just calm down. Oh, yeah, just calm down
Uh, all right, why don't we uh, why don't we go ahead and do this thing?
Resuming the selected now, yeah
That's probably true chiefry
What's up y'all welcome to the WAN Show it's been a great week
No, it's been a great week
Nope, and it's gonna be a great WAN Show. Okay. I wasn't even talking about like world events
I realize what that probably sounded like now. I'm not I wasn't trying. I'm not even we're not even going down that road
Wow, it took us it took us exactly three seconds. I didn't intend to three seconds
To alienate some half of america. I wasn't what I was talking about and we don't even know which one it is
Way to go luke. I was talking about completely not american things. Okay. I was
Nothing to do with america. We've got a lot of great topics for you guys today
I forget what the headline one was so luke might get it for a change
AMD is Rocketing upward. They have
Wow Okay, well we'll get into the details later, but yeah, that is absolutely incredible
EA has ditched support for Linux in apex legends
citing The fact that Linux gamers are far more likely to cheat
Them some fighting words yokes. What else we got this week a modder has made diy
Upgradable max storage Okay, this is so cool. This is legitimately crazy prices. We were talking about might not be so bad
Actually, there's a little more to that as well. We'll get to it intriguing
The last one I will bring up is that ms paint might be like a cool neat thing to do on your computer again
Really? Maybe they're bringing ai features to ms paint and notepad
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EA is dropping Linux support for apex legends
Despite the fact that the game was in the top 50 in terms of popularity on the steam deck over the past year
According to EA developers, it is much harder to catch Linux based cheaters and the quote is
The openness of the Linux operating systems make it an attractive
The openness of the Linux operating systems, whatever make it an attractive one for cheaters and cheat developers
They claim that the impact of Linux cheaters was having an outsized impact on other players experience
And thus EA has decided it is not worth supporting the platform
I suspect if i'm reading between the lines accurately, I suspect this might also mean that the player base
Playing on Linux is probably not super high either
But it's very interesting to me that they specifically call out the outsized impact that that small player base is having
Because the player base can't be that small if you're a top 50 game
I mean it might not register for a company like EA and one of their halo titles like apex legends, which
Okay, it's not a halo title. That would be halo, but you get what I mean
Oh
He wasn't paying of attention. What he wasn't paying of attention. Don't forget it. Get on the ball, Dan
I was responding to a horrific merge message. Oh, oh
Uh Well, cool. I guess we'll get to that later. Okay. Anyway, the point is we've got a few discussion questions here
And i'm i'm legitimately interested to hear not just luke's perspective
But I'd like to hear your guys's perspective as well Like if there's anyone who works in game development particularly in anti-cheat development feel free to drop that into the Floatplane chat
I'm gonna kind of keep an eye out for it But you know the first question is wouldn't more cheap makers be attracted to Windows
Seeing as the paid cheat industry is kind of an enormous industry these days and Windows is
Obviously going to be the platform of choice for most gamers. That's where your biggest player base is
What if it's a premium thing though? Like the you know, you have a less likeliness of getting caught if you use this one
We are the premium specialized tool By the discerning cheater. I very much suspect that it is but do do you really think that it that it is
More worth it arch during the day cheating at apex legends at night
Do you really think that it's more worth it to kind of jump through whatever hoops?
You might have to jump through to become a Linux gamer
You know figure out installing Linux for yourself, which to be clear
I i'm not i'm not talking about you guys right now. You guys know how to you know
Use rufus and make a usb drive and install an operating system on your computer or whatever
Exactly exactly. I mean shortly that wouldn't cause the system to immediately break. Did you ever see that video?
I did nothing wrong Except where it tells you that it's gonna break no no different video
Oh, there's a ShortCircuit where I unboxed a Linux laptop
I I installed steam on it. I did I did nothing. I just installed steam on it and then it just wouldn't boot up again
No, I don't think I've seen I have a talent. I have a talent anyway
Steam you steam and Linux in the same room. Yeah, the point is I'm not talking about I'm not talking about you guys
You can do that. I'm talking about your average like slackjawed gamer man
Like I was at packs one year and I was at the invidia booth and they were showing off
This was when they were showing off game stream, right? So their wi-fi
Game streaming to the to the had they launched the shield console yet. I don't even think so
I think it was on the little shield portable that little handheld Android box
And there's this guy in a beanbag chair and uh, I walk up to him and I'm like
Hey, like how's the latency on it and he's he's like I kid you not
I don't know That seems like a cool game. No, I'm just like
Dude, you're in the you're in the invidia booth. You're trying game stream. It's not even running on that machine
That's like the whole point so
So I guess my point is like so your your your average cheater
So many full-point chats at his latency was too high. It was a little high
It was a little a little high. Okay. We were in the pacific northwest. All right, you know, you probably
Okay, we got a lot of uh, he was enjoying. We got a lot of oceans. We got a lot of oceans. Okay a lot of reefs. Okay a lot of
He's a reefer this isn't fair you can't be this on it when you're sick. It's not this isn't okay
um my goodness anyway, so so so
If I was to try to kind of profile the person who needs to cheat at games
See when I was a kid the people who cheated at games were like kids, right? Because they they didn't they weren't good or
They didn't have They didn't have time to use the computer
Like I feel like that's kind of flipped around where adults are doing things on their phones and like
You know the kids just kind of seem to have free reign at their computers and stuff
Like the adults needed to like use the computer Like you were you were fighting over and and in particular the internet connection. Yeah, right?
Like the the phone line needed to stay open unless you're I have an important call tonight
Exactly, you can just like be on the internet all the time
So so you would you could you could cheat and then you could like you could download a diablo trainer
And then you could kind of like have your godly play to the whale. I'm so sick now
Yeah, you know go and fight diablo or whatever right so so so the profile that I might have in my in my mind for like
A cheater as just like you know an average gamer slash a kid who's not good enough or whatever
That's probably just completely wrong right because you got people who are obviously savvy enough to play a game like tarkov
But obviously feel the need to cheat at it So you've got these I guess I've talked myself completely out of my argument now because the amount of work
That people are seem seem to be willing to put into
Not doing the work There that's what I'm trying to get out of here when you and I were
Growing up when we were young ins Uh cheaters where it was generally associated with having some amount of knowledge of like software development
Even if you got the cheat from someone else It it was it seemed like there was some amount of that's true arcane knowledge
Like it was a pain in the butt to figure out and the resources to to to research it
And the amount of trouble you did in from your parents for going on sites that could get the computer a virus
And now it's like advertised on youtube and twitter and stuff like it's it's a totally different realm
um So I think the like hey, this isn't too bad a lot of people actually do this like all the time
Is the current vibe and when that's the case you might be more willing to actually try the stuff that would be hard
You know what I mean installing Linux running them that way etc
Okay, decimus roman says
I Nothing decimus roman says I suspect that part of this is that Linux doesn't allow video game companies to play the same games
They do on Windows with memory inspection Um, but even then the game was a mess on Linux and they weren't really making progress in fixing it
Do you think that Linux cheaters are just a scapegoat?
I've I've I wanted about that a little bit. Um
Because I do know Yeah, the the install base for
Linux for most games tends to be really low. Um, I know
It's not super common for for developers to want to take Linux out of their
um You know supported operating systems
Um mac is the is the worst Um, but Linux is is pretty bad for that as well
I've heard that this is much less of a problem now that steam deck is a thing
Because a higher percentage of your player base does want to be in Linux. Um, but
I don't know So, okay, hold on. Um gauntlet wizard says it does allow memory inspection in fact more
Is it just not supported by their anti-cheat?
That's a good question. I'm not sure and again that would come back down to just scapegoating not wanting to put in the resources
Whoa
Is that scapegoating not wanting to put in the resources? No, I mean, I just mean saying because it would still be scapegoating to say it's because of people cheating on the platform
Well, it is for yeah So for if if the reason is actually just that they they they could deal with it, but they would just have to put in the work
Um to to figure out, you know better memory inspection
And is that scapegoating though is memory inspection really the biggest impediment though or would it be more to do with?
I was gonna say more to do with not being allowed to just run at kernel level willy-nilly, but even then they probably like could
Tons of different I learned this from playing tarkoff There's tons of different types of cheats because you could cheat and this would help you in apex legends a lot
Actually is knowing where everyone on the map is right? Yeah, you can do that without changing what's in the memory
You do that just by reading the memory
I see and there's nothing you can do to prevent something from just reading
I don't see how you'd do that
I I Don't know enough about it. I think it shows up in device manager though, doesn't it?
Um on Windows I don't like gauntlet wizard says nobody would let them have
Root to access it because Linux gamers aren't stupid
But it's like okay, but hold on a second if the game just requires it if the game just requires it either don't play or you do it
Yeah, like what do you what is your I guess that's my question is what is your proposal?
for for anti-cheat then if if we don't
Access this stuff if we don't lock it down like and I'm not saying this is the way to you know to allow companies to install
Root kits or you know kernel level anti-cheat or whatever else I'm not I'm not saying that's the way
I'm just saying okay if that isn't the way what what's the other way
Like give me give me give me another way
It's gonna be a yeah Windows kernel expert can protect okay
Yeah, so this is more just like people people are mainly saying look this pretty much seems to come down to
resource management Um
Yeah, I don't know not a cheat developer. I can't say hardware level encryption of processes memory
Huh, I mean we're talking about like a complete architectural shift then at least for you know like the the open
You know standards desktop pc. I mean you could you could do that for a console or whatever else
You're not going to do that on Windows at least not for the time being
um Apparently auto hotkey gives you aimbot on apex. I've seen a couple people talk about that
This is wild dude. I saw someone in the chat in Floatplane chat was saying I I have a friend who's good at uh
What is it? I don't remember what it is battlefield cod something. I don't know some game and
basically he uses cheats because
He'll get put into lobbies that are too sweaty and he just wants to go around and kill people
it's like Look, I can't tell you play with bots. I can't tell you who to be friends with and who to not be friends with
um But your friends at this hole so yeah
Like It's mathematical. I I genuinely get suspicious of what other
Like if they if they're if they're okay with that while they're the things are they okay with you know
And that that's a bit of a slippery slope because you're expecting every person to be perfect
But it's like it's it's it's concerning and there's an easy it would raise a red
No, there's an easy counter argument. The easy counter argument is it's a game
Does it even really matter that much? And then there's an easy counter argument to that
If someone is willing to lie or cheat or step on someone else when the stakes are so low
When it doesn't even matter When it hardly impacts them at all
If it was on the line, if it was a big deal, would they stand up for what's right?
Heck no, obviously. Yeah Like they were willing to compromise their principles for literally zero personal gain
nothing I don't know just food for thought
Just food for thought. Yeah Yeah, funny hat says if you wouldn't trust a man with a dollar would you trust him with a million dollars?
People I there there's someone I stopped playing badminton with
um because I was sitting behind their court at a tournament and it was uh, it was like
2220 so it was like introduced where you have to win by two points third set
and the other team Hit a clear over their head
And it obviously um landed out
No, it obviously obviously landed in
And they call it out And the way that it works in in recreational tournaments
Is that the line call is the team that is that is on that side
You you call your own line calls because you're closer. You you're the only one who can realistically tell
There's no line judges because we don't have you know six people to line up down all edges of the court and like check everything
Because it's just rec, right? Yeah um
And what you're supposed to do is if you're not sure you replay the point
Okay, it's if there's a dispute. You're supposed to replay the point. So the other person was like, uh
That was obviously in um
and This this person who I had been playing with on a fairly regular basis was like, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh
And like got all aggressive about it and declared themselves the winner of the game and the other people being you know
non-confrontational and just being like dude this it's a game like what is what
are we even what are we even doing here they backed down because they were like this is this is ridiculous and I was like yeah that's I I would never I will
never play with that person again I will never set foot on a court with that
person because you are just you're a dishonest person you have shown your
character more clearly than any words you could ever say yeah especially in
such a like not that it makes it better in a competitive game but like it's just
it's it feels almost worse that it was like a casual recreational match yeah
you know like I just I don't know I mean in so well and you know what no no I
think that's a fair point because in a professional league part of the
gamesmanship like literally I had this I had this like NHL card game when I was a
kid and one up and so what would happen is like you could like you would it was
like a deck game and you would well I mean any card games a deck game whatever
just calm down the point and it wasn't a deck building game is a card game so so
you would you would draw your cards and so you could you could play shot and the
other person would have to have a save okay or or they could play a hook and
then I could play the the ref to call the hook oh okay and then you could play
behind the ref's back and then the hook wouldn't get called and then my shot
wouldn't go in you know like so there were like multiple ways to defend
interesting against a goal okay and so and and so I guess what I'm trying to say
is I think at a professional level there is a there is a certain amount of
gamesmanship that is pushing the boundaries but then that's also why you
would have a referee line judge at that level of competition exactly yeah so I
guess what I'm trying to say is yes at a professional level no I think I don't
I don't really respect it no I don't like dirty players yeah but I also do
acknowledge that that is the expectation and that if everyone's doing it now it's
part of the game yeah and we can we can doesn't mean it's good the dives in
soccer are disgusting and ridiculous extremely detrimental to the credibility
of the sport as an outsider who actually enjoys watching watching football there
I'll even I'll even use the proper name for the sport out of respect women's
football soccer whatever it's fun and cool to watch they don't dive yep so as
someone who as someone who thinks the game is super cool and I don't see a
lot of it and I'm used to hockey you know so I'm not going to be I'm not one
of the one of those Americans who's like I watch basketball if there's no
scoring for like 18 seconds I'm bored what's happening why is it why is anybody
scoring that's so big like I like I don't even mind it I don't even mind I
come from hockey I'll watch a zero I'll watch a nil nil game all the time no
problem I mean I prefer scoring and I think we all do but but but but I like
the tension you know I like the tension but it yeah really it really takes me
out of it dude it takes me out of it in a big way well yeah when it just feels
like instead of watching a sports competition I'm watching a freaking like
high school level acting competition yeah it's pathetic I was trying to get
into it at one point in time yeah if I wanted to watch that immediately turn it
off the second someone I'd watch youtuber apology video duels that actually be
kind of a funny a funny concept for video well what ours do I don't know I
didn't PewDiePie review it did he I think so I don't know I think so I have no
idea when we said I don't remember I probably looked at it at some point
apology Mick Legan says well you're still around hey all right then I guess
then I guess I guess I'd probably do pretty okay what now I hope because it's
no what what is this what is this what is this yeah is this seriously the last
video they uploaded to like what is this so it left it off on a banger dude 2.4
million views I didn't mean to click on the Tmoo LMG clips or oh man
what are you looking at now that's content baby
how did they how did they get my brain
in videos relatable what the heck hit me with that before I forget that my key
thanks you know what let it out let it out yeah yeah why not it's it's healthy
oh my goodness alright so here's my here's my last sort of question coming
back to the whole is it just because Linux gamers or cheaters I guess if it's
just like if it's just like a scapegoat thing Linux people Linux people are
cheaters or or if it's just and the real reason is we don't feel like doing the
work then why are so many other anti-cheat games not bothering is it
also just because they don't feel like I wouldn't be too surprised I'd be
interested to hear from actual anti-cheat developers because honestly I
don't know but I am I'm thinking about you know how much work it is to even try
to keep up with the cheating community as anti-cheat developers yeah because
you're you're kind of like I'm making assumptions here not an anti-cheat
developer yeah you're kind of you have to sort of be reactive yeah oh I would
think so that sucks I mean you're gonna try to get out ahead of it like I'm sure
you have some developers that are pushing try to get ahead some developers that are pushing to try to be reactive but we've talked about this before where
certain departments are revenue generating departments and other departments
are considered you know more like boat anchor departments and if I'm if I'm a
game developer I'm looking at my anti-cheat not as a revenue generation
department but as like a as a burden as something that I need to well usually
anti-cheat is a separate company so sorry but you're still gonna sorry sorry
you're still gonna have internal people that are responsible for the implementation you're still gonna have internal people that are working to make
sure that the game actually functions with the third party and so this is
something that by and large and there's still gonna be a limit to how much you're
gonna want to pay your third-party anti-cheat so in terms of the the
investment you're making an anti-cheat it's not a gonna pay 50% more to have
Linux compatible to counter to counter how much cheat developers can charge for
their services right so what we're looking at is a situation where the
investment in cheating software is is a revenue generating department an
exciting department whereas the investment in anti-cheat is like a
burdensome we have to do this so we can sell more the players don't scream
yeah exactly and so you're always gonna I just feel like you're always gonna be
on the back foot that way and and there's a really there's a really
unpleasant comment in the flow plane chat someone said because they're lazy and
that is just so unfair to developers I I have had the pleasure of meeting of
meeting some game developers and I haven't met a single one that I would
characterize as just lazy yeah in fact they've felt to me and this is based on
limited interactions I don't know about best friends or anything did you meet
the developers sorry yeah like that this is a person who their job is due
development yeah well they're not picking their tasks well I know that's
where I'm getting to Luke he ruined the thing I'm working on a whole set up
here I do specialize at this yeah I mean but but what I'm trying to say is like
they've seemed in every case passionate and a lot of the time if they're not
getting resources if they're not getting time they're not getting tasked thank you
Luke on on these things that will that will improve the game for their
community well it comes down to the bean counters that comes from somewhere to
defend potentially the bean counters sometimes there are business realities
that there's nothing that they can do about if we spend all this time and all
this money on this thing that like four people care about it will cost us an
opportunity over here will come at to the detriment of these other things can I
no longer hire a person to help this other overworked person we have on the
team can we not give good raises this year do we have to lay people off because
we're out of money these are questions that bean counters are trying to do that
monolith and it's rough out there right now that monolith tour was so cool like
that the number of the game I wouldn't say necessarily all of them were devs
but devs and artists the number of the people that worked on the game that
were like so multi-hatted and like they literally did their own combat mo cap
just like people who worked in the studio who were like yeah I like I like
train karate on my own time I'm going to my cap room to like fight with people
and like this is sick that is so cool that was that was a really cool thing
that we did speaking of things being rough out there dude did you see Warner
Brothers said they lost a hundred million dollars hold on loss a hundred
million I'm working on it they lost yeah here we go multi-versus and quidditch
champions together I wanted to be an actual in flipping chat said it's rough
when you do bad decisions I don't disagree I will also say and I'm not
saying that you don't I'm just I think sometimes a lot of the feedback that you
hear from that is people that don't make that level of decision it's also really
easy to look at those level of decisions in hindsight and be like yeah that was
obviously stupid I've done stuff that was obviously stupid in hindsight I don't
know can you can you think of anything yeah we can move on
yeah I think I broke it I think there's there's so many things running to his
brain right now it's actually reached a runaway state and you can't bring it
back under control okay we're even talking about we're talking about the
heart our incident oh my which was not that word okay it was not that word yeah
yeah that's not a word that I believe exists in my vocabulary in my life to
Aquila or whatever trust me I get it and there's a lot of scenarios where I feel
like even if we're not thinking in a hindsight sense I'm looking at some of
the things some of these companies are doing I'm like oh my that's so incredibly
dumb and I mean it happens I'm not defending all of it I'm just saying
sometimes like I don't know it doesn't it's it's not automatically that this
person was just like being a malicious jerk sometimes they're just trying to
deal with the cards they have and they don't have a great option and they do
the one they think is best and none of them were good and that one sucks and people are mad it's well that channel that you were talking about that like
takes apart the bags and stuff oh yeah watch that because you just like the
taste of leather so much or what I just kind of noticing that out of the two of
us for some reason you're the corporate bootlicker and I'm just I'm no I'm
giving them a hard time my goodness I'm giving all Luke's trying to say is that
everyone everyone's human and I mean that at a variety of levels too right we
could be talking about a small indie game with two people or one person yeah
and I and I mean that all the way up I suspect the more the company size grows
the more it is malicious and bad and dumb decisions I think the more it is
attached to exactly yeah people that don't care about the thing that they're
making they just want more money and you have people who don't know who the
people working on it are absolutely they don't see them they don't interact with
them every day like these these are absolutely things I'm just saying like
I don't know anyway WB games lost a hundred million dollars on multi-versus
and Quidditch champions can I just say for a moment that I would be happy Warner
Brothers I would be happy to work as a consultant for you okay and if you'd
like for the small fee of 99 million dollars oh okay I would be happy to tell
you that don't whether you should make a game or not yeah yeah yeah and Quidditch
champions let me let me get let me let me it's a pretty obvious no yeah speaking
of speaking of bad decisions that we don't need hindsight to have known
whether or not I don't know anything about this game not even sort of
surprised it didn't do well why would you buy a Quidditch game Quidditch literally
is a sport what are the worst thought of sports that was invented by someone who
hates sports I didn't know that no surprise thinks they're stupid and went
out of their way to to make a like a just terribly designed game what what's
the word it's it's it's it's not parody the it's satire it's it's it's like it's
it's it's or maybe it is parody I don't know it's whatever the word I'm looking
for it is it's it's intent caricature that's pretty good thanks ninja dude it's
a caricature of sport it emphasizes the the weird tribalism to the point where
people are cheering when people get seriously injured or almost killed it
it has intentionally arbitrary rules to sort of to highlight how utterly
arbitrary the rules can feel sometimes especially if you don't really understand
sports and you don't care to learn about them like it is it is intentionally
stupid and intentionally makes no sense and this is something that isn't even
just like a like a retcon oh yeah you know I totally intended for that plot
hole or you know I intended for those characters to have an unspoken
relationship or you know whatever this isn't just some like random inserted in
an interview five years after the fact this was like well established right
early on yeah quit it just f***ing stupid and that's totally on purpose yeah and
also like it was one of those games I remember reading about it because there
was pretty much no way for them to win on this because to make the game true to
the sport right like in the novels and in the movies you you have to it would
have to suck yes and you would and so you would anger a lot of the hardcore
fans of you know the Harry Potter universe right and and then to make a
balanced game that would actually play like a decent game at all well yeah
you have to completely change it right so if you make a balanced game you'll
you'll screw up with the hardcore's and if you make the game the way that it was
in the novels and the way it was in the movies then it'll be completely
unplayable yeah to any gamer who's like knows what a rule set is and how they
yeah I've read in reading 428 says they should have just done Calvin ball at
that point yeah dude yeah I would play this out of Calvin ball yeah like okay
why not because Bill Watterson would never license it that's why that makes
sense Bill William if I may you know what no I disagree hold on okay hold on
William okay how about this is a deal how about this is a deal okay you license
Calvin house wait wait wait wait you license Calvin and Hobbes stop it but
but the not-for-profit organization that runs it okay has like all the safeguards
okay it has like capped executive pay for the people who met stop it for the
people who manage the IP okay it contributes literally 100% of its
of its yearly proceeds to the foundation or the cause of your choice in
perpetuity and and and it just it contributes in some way in some way
just nothing but good to the world with all the profits that it may give me a
Hobbes toy I think I think based Bill Watterson understands that given the
erosion of time and entropy all things are able to become corrupted and wasted
well then he knows then as soon as he dies it's gonna happen anyway hold on
as long as you can or or don't live to see your your thing that you made
ruined or instead of don't allow the Hobbit to be made NVIDIA in movie
form instead of writing that weird picture book or whatever yeah spend your
time like making it make it setting it up for coolness before you go man
because the world needs more Calvin and Hobbes did it that'd be cool well he
doesn't want to he's like retired no unretire well I would like that too don't
make better this time yeah better this time please don't make that thing what
up dude me I mean what I guess hello state your request what hello oh oh hi
okay this live right now yeah yeah are you doing the stamp I don't know anymore
okay bye all right Dan you have merch messages for me sure BRB one sec okay
bye topic or we've been on I don't remember I don't yay ditching Linux I
don't know how we go oh it's happening oh this makes this kind of suck why is
what is though we'll uh we'll do it we can always yeah sure you guys should go
away there we go yeah leave please thank you I love you okay let's see what do I
got okay I am so out of it today I'm so sorry it's okay okay it's okay what do
we have I know that there was something dude so I have to I've so the way and
show has been ending slightly early for quite a while because I've had to do
bird meds every day 12 hours apart because it's 12 hours apart and you know
you have to go to work it's basically determined that the latest it could be in
the morning it's like 830 so we do birds met bird meds at 830 in the morning that
means 12 hours later we have to do bird meds at 830 at night my my girlfriend's
gonna be away this weekend so I've had to try to learn how to do bird meds alone
we've had this we've had this strategy where I catch them she gives them the
medicine we're good we we make the room really dark they have really bad dark
vision humans have generally better dark vision I can see them I can catch them
no problem and I hold them with two hands so I have a very nice hold on them
where there's no pressure at all they're mostly just like standing on one of my
fingers while I'm just not allowing them to leave and I nicely hold their head in
place and everything's all good and safe and they're generally okay with it I
now have to catch them entirely holding them in one hand and then medicine feed
them with my other hand which is the traditional way to do it it's our thing
to learn I'm figuring that out right now that's been that's been a that's been a
trip ask for help like from who who's gonna be able to help me at 830 in the
morning in my house what if the other bird helped yeah oh we got a line of
speckle ready we didn't even get to do a merge message a maneuver we did that was
so fast what did you do sound like my wife again you what did you do
me yeah yeah I got my chips okay yeah yeah yeah that's good all right just
making sure Canada hasn't been invaded yet it's great life is good I don't think
we actually got to a merge message I was I was buying time we do actually have to
explain merge messages and do a couple so oh are we do to do that okay hey
messages the best way to interact with the show it's merge messages or just I
don't know rolling up and interrupting apparently because that's what Jake does
what a what a guy what a flipping guy so we don't do twitch bats we don't do
super chats we do merge messages because the way that we see it if you're gonna
throw money at your screen hey your screen should throw something right back
in your face that's right what what did you throw I don't know it's heavy though
exploded yeah it was pretty exciting so the point is that all you got to do to
send a merge message which will go to producer Dan over here I wasn't aiming
at you Dan no it's exploded all over the floor it's fine it's fine yeah yeah
it's good did you sound like my wife now don't take a blacklight home the point
is the point is that all you got to do is go on lttstore.com throw something in
your cart you'll see a little box for merge messages you can leave a merge
message it will go to producer Dan he'll forward it to someone answered himself he'll pop it up on the bottom of the screen or he will curate it for me
and Luke to respond to live on the show you don't have to do that anymore do
what you got an operation everything yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah 100% 100% now
it's just for fun all right maybe we can wrap up this segment and get into some
messages well that's what I should have done yeah
so anyway it's in the it's in the cart you check out your something we'll
reply to it curated merge messages Dan do you want to show a couple of them how
it works sure sure sure Linus do you still hold your meme stock or did you
end up selling it all Yvonne took it from me at some point because we needed to
shift some cash around at some point I think we lost money it was a fact I
remember that yeah I think one of you told me and I was like oh you like
still have that the investment account is empty now not because we lost
everything was it did it come out flat I actually legitimately don't remember
anymore but Yvonne needed to move everything that was out of that sort of
play money investment account that she let me have and she needed to do
something responsible oh I think to buy the smash champs building yeah probably
yeah I think it was probably the down payment for smash champs it's okay so
what okay so I hear you when you say the in the investment account is empty and
I understand how that functionally works but when you have things like that the
NASC company and framework like is that because those are different forms of so
so the when I say the investment account is empty market that yeah yeah okay yeah
so I own literally zero dollars in the market in the market yeah however I think
I think I have an investment in a REIT I forget I forget what it stands for real
estate something T something it's some kind of like term deposit thing and they
like invest in real estate on your behalf or something sure like that so I
have I have a small amount in a REIT I I have the approximately quarter mil in
framework like 220 or 225 or something like that it's a similar amount in I
don't know if they have they have they've announced their names right the name
hashtag well now it's announced I think so I think there's even a website in the
NAS yeah in the NAS software company and that I have real estate holdings and
then I own stocks in Linus Media Group Inc this thing yeah hex hex OS
hashtag yeah it's down at the bottom of the page yep yep so so that that is that
is it it's one of those things where I think that there would definitely have
been opportunities for me to do extremely well in tech stocks but it has
seemed a inconvenient and be extremely unethical yeah more morally question to
participate I wanted to buy NVIDIA back when it was like $17 when I worked
at NCIX that would have been a pretty good move yeah it is what it is but yeah
you know you know how it is I think yeah I think holding framework like ultra
mega long-term is a little bit different than like diamond hands stocks diamond
hands and framework the framework was it was I wonder what the technical value of
that investment is now I don't know I was gonna say no I've offered to tell me
last time I saw him when I was at Computex and I was like dude I actually
don't want to know it's not gonna change anything yeah and the reality of it is
even if it even if it doubled even if it quadrupled it's not it's not gonna
impact our business in any meaningful way like where we're not salaries we're
not cash-strapped it's not like we're it's not like we like have
trouble making payroll you know and I feel like now's a good time just like
shout out the team like massive massive shout out to the merch team business
team content team did we talk about this last week we had we had an all-hands
was it talking about in the all-hands yeah we had an all-hands earlier this week
and not this week was it this week long week dude yeah holy oh my no oh no that's
not okay that we all should not feel like that I'm upset that's actually
upsetting what a week that's crazy okay we weird it's weird that the beginning of
covid feels like it was like a couple years ago I know but this week feels
like it was a month long yeah I could have guessed at least two or three weeks
yeah so we had an all-hands this week and I was I was the one of the quarterly
speakers it was mine and Yvonne's turn from the exact team to to speak in
addition to sort of tearing giving opening closing remarks and our point
thank you thank you very much I drew our building on fire and my point was
there's a lot of headwinds coming for us and so what we should just give up so
it was kind of a it was kind of a little talk about resilience for the team and
in both directions you know talking about the resilience we're gonna need to
have going forward and also celebrating the resilience that we have shown over
the last realistically the last few years which have has involved a hyper
growth phase and a shrink phase and then a more gradual reclawing our way back
to where we were phase and and I took a little bit of time to to shout out some
of the teams that have been essential for that for that kind of I don't I don't
know what to I don't know what to call it other than just like like a getting
back on track right like LTT I think I had said was within like 15 percent 10
percent within 10 percent of of where views were like sort of last July last
June last July the overall company like the entire portfolio I think was in was
within like 15 or 20 percent viewership wise Floatplane massive massive shout
out to the Floatplane team to the social teams so Sammy if you if you floaters
are watching all those exclusive Sammy's killing it man crushing I've really
been crushing it the Floatplane content and and you and you know I mean like
Sammy doesn't operate in a vacuum you know you got to give no you got to give
credit to the behind-the-scenes folks right like obviously there's there's the editors you know the community management like chewy there's the guys that are
working on strategy from the business team that are helping with all this stuff
yeah huge shout-out business team but basically like every team it's kind of
been resilient was was what I what I had wanted to talk about and I forget where
I started on all of this do does anyone remember what the question was I don't
think I remember anymore Dan do you still hold meme stocks oh yeah right yeah I
don't remember how I got here but anyway the team is amazing and thank you all
right Floatplane is back almost up to 40,000 yeah 40,000 members which is
pretty nuts kind of unbelievable yeah you know if you think about it because
that we we spiked up that high because of the the YouTube hack and then we you
know we thought it was gonna decline after the YouTube hack because it was
such a crazy spike and we thought that people were at least some of the people
coming in had no long-term intentions even before they saw the platform we
were hoping that some of them were gonna see it and be like oh it's actually pretty cool I'm gonna stay that did seem to happen to a surprisingly large
percentage of them but some people were just gonna naturally naturally fade out
but to be back up to near YouTube hack levels is like whoa pretty nuts do you
remember why I was talking about the all hands cuz I don't I got distracted by
the fact that I thought that that was like a month ago no okay cool well anyway
oh we you you were talking about how the company doesn't need the money oh yeah
framework yeah okay so the framework thing yeah how did that how did that
figure into that I don't know because we're talking about investments you were
talking about how you you could try to sell we were talking about you do you
know the valuation of your investment oh yeah no I have no idea yeah I have no
idea and and it doesn't matter all right and it doesn't matter because I was
talking to the team about how like we're kind of back baby yeah we had two
separate threads to I saw this with a bunch of upvotes I think it was either I
think it was last week on the subreddit that were like yo have you been just like
really enjoying the content lately and people were like yeah it's been it's been
and you know what it's been it's been really heartening for the team like
today I I read out what I thought was just a really cool comment on on one of
Ploof's recent videos what was it oh yeah I know what you're talking about you do
I think I know the comment you're talking about yeah you do how could you
possibly know this this did you did you read through Chewie's oh no you social
sent me a comment oh no it's a different one so this was on almost nobody else has
the world's best TV and they go this channel is running on all cylinders
again the creativity of the skits the edgy jokes the efficient means of
delivering useful information the creation of a culture for tech LTT is
putting out some great stuff lately Linus seems like he's in a flow state it's
good to see honestly I hope you continue to create a reputation for quality
transparency and fun you guys are killing it that doesn't happen with Linus
in a flow state right like that happens when you've got resilience that happens
when you've got people working hard caring a lot and just kind of and just
getting it done that doesn't mean that you have to like be in like a like a
frantic like you know horrible state all the time it means it means focusing on
what we need to be doing and not allowing yourself to get distracted by by
negativity or by by things that don't matter you know by by little details
important stuff unimportant details well as well as when generally when
commenters make comments like Linus feels like he's in a flow state or input
pretty much anyone else's public facing name it's really what I think they're
generally saying not always obviously but what they're generally saying is like
the the personification of this person which is a bunch of people in the
company in a trench coat is doing well if that makes sense yeah like the this
person and the supporting teams around them are doing well and to be clear not
everything is perfect no right like we're not never will be we're not perfect
not everything is going according to plan and nope we still make mistakes
sometimes yep like I think we called a Ryzen seven a Ryzen five or
something like that core ultra five two eight five K which is not its name yeah
yep and I also misspoke at the beginning of video where I was like AMD
doesn't really make Ryzen fives and Ryzen threes anymore we were literally reviewing a Ryzen five my point was AMD doesn't really make low-end chips in
their current generation anymore they just like don't bother when the earlier
rising generations AMD brought their latest tech they brought their a game to
budget consumers and now they just don't do it I misspoke I said Ryzen five and
Ryzen three when what I meant was Ryzen three and a very limited lineup of
Ryzen fives because they've just kind of hollowed out their low end and I'm
I'm sorry I'm sorry it doesn't change my point and yeah I should make sure that
we're actually you know saying the right words at the right times in the right
order but yeah I think we're I think we're doing a lot right overall and I
think that there's definitely going to be some some some tweaks for us to
continue to make I think that having the having like the leadership team in to
kind of help focus on the business things that need to be done so that I can
do what I do best which is focus on the content has overall been a very good
thing even though it's been it's been a learning curve it's been a learning
curve I had honestly yeah man whatever I might as well just say I had I had a you
know
somewhat short conversation with another member of the leadership team this
morning you know this morning yep we we kind of we kind of chatted through you
know what what my expectations were in about a certain thing and like what
their expectations were and how we both probably didn't meet each other's
expectations in a way that was conducive to putting forward the best work that
we both could together and it was constructive that's good but that's a
thing is nobody's perfect yeah nobody's perfect yeah I speaking of the
nobody's perfect thing like like I said we're always gonna make mistakes as a
company there's always gonna be you know I don't know we're gonna do our best it
needs to be better than it is right now but there's always gonna be some line
here that you know all core ultra five there's always gonna be that in every
once in a while like it's nobody's perfect right but community wanted that
from us for a while so I've I've been in this honestly toxic habit of checking
the LTT subreddit once every couple days in this like what thing is being a
why are we being called demonic entities this time and it's been a nice shift in
the last few months where it's just actually like lol some meme or like hey
this video is pretty cool and it's like oh we're not evil well I think by and
large they figured out that's great they figured out that we're like mostly
trying it's just it was yeah yeah it's it's a lot nicer and I'm you know again
I'm not expecting people to not give constructive or critical feedback when
there is constructive or critical feedback to give etc it was it was
popular and welcomed and praised to crap on us for like a year oh it still is in
some places depending where you go to be fair yeah it's like it's kind of
comical at this point cuz like yeah there are there are certain do you have any
idea what other kinds of entities there are in the world that you could direct
this energy at like are you even are you even trying to find something to be
legitimately angry about at this point are you just like have you ever thought
about food some random yeah oh man yeah I looked at what goes in your food oh wow
have you ever looked into palm oil you know like do you know what canola oil
stands for no um look this up recently
there's a touch it's actual name but now it's like Canada oil or something
away yeah I think you made that up canola oil get its name it stands for
Canada oil low acid no way yeah a name created by a Canadian industry group of
rapeseed oil product producers the canola plant is a type of rapeseed that
is low in two compounds that when removed makes his oil healthier and tastes
better probably because saying the name of the seed just sucks why would they
come up with something yeah that makes sense made out of orphan killing plant
yeah I want to rename that first maybe we should go back to the marketing
table you know I would get renamed super fast very quickly it's gonna oil you
in the mouth whoa whoa let's let's rename that yeah let's rename that but we
oil into some announcements and yeah is that what we're supposed to be doing did
we do two merge messages we did one merge message for 45 minutes and now we're
gonna do the announcements and then probably move on to another topic oh wow
okay okay I can see the reddit threads now we're already back to being evil
again yeah it's an it's a new our word um so why why don't you grab okay I think
it's time to relax and get cozy we went all in on making your
new favorite hoodie the aptly named super soft hoodie it's made of a butry
smooth fabric that our fashion team absolutely fell in love with along with
a brushed fleece inside that feels luxuriously soft it also features a
custom big chunk draw cord with an LTT logo engraved in the end that adds a
nice little accent hold on I'm gonna go to the Luke cam you want to show them the
big chunk no too comfy oh my god okay he's really gonna be like that about it
which I wasn't even paying attention to the big chunk draw cord oh these are
sweet yeah sure yeah there's the big so they're like actually huge yeah like the
the metal at the end is it's she's strong she's strong we have do we have an
example of like a normal sweater I don't know because these are actually like I
have big hands big fingers that's my finger next to it yeah they're chunky
you'll have to take my word for it and of course we have a nice soft kanga pocket
to stick your hands into and something that we go out of our way to add on our
hoodies a more secure pocket for your phone or earbuds you want to show them
our classic phone pocket there it is basically we wanted to make a hoodie
that you didn't even have to think twice about throwing on we even chose a
color that works with just about any outfit like if you throw the tech bro
vest on top of this guy you're looking snazzy and warm oh okay he's gonna do
that it's available now at LMG.gg slash super soft which this is apparently a
thing I had to get educated this is a thing huh okay people wore vest over
sweaters okay yeah it's called a sweater vest what are you an idiot no it's not
it's not called that sweater vest is a thing it's a vest that's a sweater so
yeah tech tech bro he's gonna be boiling in like four seconds I'm going to overheat
he'll wear it for as long as he can and die yeah we're in the studio we're under
the lights it's not it's not a good time for a warm boy like Luke to be wearing
something like that how quickly do you think Emma will steal this oh were you
there Dan will it even make it inside the door the second I even felt it I
told her already was here and I was like I'm going to have this for the WAN Show
and then it won't be mine anymore like yeah when I get home it's gone which
kind of sucks because it's actually really nice yeah got him but um anyway
all right so here's the here's the photo shoot for it super cute love it it's
Jenny it's like the name is quite accurate it's genuinely very there's the
chunky draw cord yeah we're really proud of this one we're really happy with how
this one turned out are there any other announcements Dan oh yeah they didn't
include a pic of the inside on the website can you give us a close-up oh yeah
yeah sure uh luke cam I mean I don't know how close we're going to be able to get
to it um but it's a it's a brushed it's a brushed style yeah so not like the
french terry like we've done on a lot of our other hoodies yeah there's one more
announcement Elijah week plus five for five what does that mean this week is a
big week on Floatplane it's not only elie week but we're releasing five float
plane exclusives next week that is five videos in one week for your five dollar
monthly subscription oh it says react to this oh no Dan what oh do i gotta pull
something up do we have audio uh can't be worse than what we were calling canola oil
uh yeah if you want to just play it i can check that's the word for it
i luke i don't i don't make the rules but america will hear us if you keep saying that word
america oil eagle sounds that's what they sound like
is that a red-tailed hawk it's like not even an eagle i don't know uh whatever um okay what do we
watch i'm playing the thing i have no audio okay i have audio okay we ready you gotta all right
line us laptop here we go announcing elijah week and more i'm gonna get there it's finally my week
here at Floatplane it's about damn time i get some recognition for all the hard work i put in here
you can do this this is your week this is your week everyone has to do what i say this week
i basically run this company yeah so what was that meeting for he just walked in and i shook his
hand what's the score what did i just approve you know it's time for some big changes what are you
doing with my desk just go check out these teasers i would have never gotten into it if it wasn't
for watching LTT i did not get hired because of this script that's going to be the best part
about this so then i got hired in logistics if elijah wins he gets a lunch given by me and
pay for by the company if elijah wins he saves $25 because no one gets lunch
and immediately found a spelling mistake in like the first sentence and i'm like
when did tech late officially launch probably launched between like 2005 and 2024 questions
about the content yeah i did i did and he still got wrong you're asking me also about the content
12 years ago it's our popular videos you know that means nobody watches the
yeah nobody watches the popular videos
oh man so uh go ahead and subscribe on Floatplane if you guys want to check out elijah week
all right Dan hit us with another merge message right no way uh we should probably get straight
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think we'll do some more topics ms paint is the future is it cool again i don't know maybe Dan's
about to tell us oh Dan do you need a minute Dan needs no minutes needs maybe one minute he has
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uh okay so what am i doing here my am i screen sharing so this as far as my understanding goes
has the generative ai paint stuff and it has the ai notepad tools all right so and that laptop is
now luke's laptop so you can send it over to the the main screen already oh i understand nope nope
that's mine neat new ai experiences for painting notepad okay so paint version 11.2410.28.0 yeah
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is on microsoft's website this is what no i'm just learning i'm i'm learning about it first don't
learn if you don't like what was generated just press try again wow it will be available on snap
dragon powered co-pilot plus pcs blah blah sign in your microsoft account etc ooh generative erase
okay make it look like the object was never there very cool very cool so let's see
gone let's go update the co-creator update okay notepad i don't know if i care as much about
let's play around with paint it shall we luke do you want to be the this was what oh um
okay so what should we what should we put in it what should we put in it uh i want to play with it
get it to generate your car generate my car how the how the devil am i going to get it to do that
generate the world's most flashy self-important Porsche that you can that it that it can
really luke okay well we'll have to start with image creator then
rather than the actual generative fill features whoops that's clicked the wrong one again
okay so image creator uh man i haven't really used paint much you know lately yeah i was kind
of wondering like will this feature get people to actually use paint again because i i feel like
paint's kind of a bit of a dead meme so is notepad to be honest but
okay so i want to push take hand with the brand wrap nice yeah that's what i drive right perfect
so let's see what it comes up with i i don't i don't think it's going to come up with anything
this is like a licensed you know thing potentially wow it's it needs a second here give it give it
a second we're generating we're generating okay all right yeah i mean i mean yeah that's that's
pretty good okay well here let's because we didn't we didn't say like yeah we didn't say the color
let's say it's purple that that that's pretty good that is pretty that is pretty good that's a
very strong start we didn't say it was purple we also didn't say what skin it looks like a car with
a weird custom it's got kind of uh similar headlights it's missing the like cheetah tier
thing a little bit it gives you porche vibes though oh yeah definitely 100 okay yeah that one that one
does too okay okay sure uh okay purple um textured Damascus steel cool we're getting close yeah
we're gonna be more specific brand wrap okay man that that's not bad okay so let's get our let's
get our base image here and then we can and then we can do some generative fill maybe we maybe we
could put a person in the thing or like make your wheels the your face
okay which one do we like the best i feel like that first one's like getting kind of close
i feel like this one's cooler i do feel like that one's cooler dude that that's super cool i
think that one's more lower accurate you know okay all right that one's got some wacky glitches going
on yeah look at this uh look at this situation here and i think the wheel is like in the headlight
kind of all right okay so we're gonna we're gonna go with this guy sure or the or the cool one i
just i think this one's more accurate that one's pretty sick they're both cool let's go with this
one let's go with this one okay so uh okay we're gonna put you in it or should you be like crouching
in front of it well i don't know luke i don't know i describe what you'd like to create uh okay so
wait no this is generated our preview image creator co-creator okay well wait do i how do i uh
how do i do any of this i guess i could have Dan do you know uh no i assume that what you would do
is you would do a lasso like uh you've got the selection tool there if you do the drop down
and then go like uh free form there we go and then like highlight something so i'm gonna i'm gonna
ask to put a person like there i guess sure then generator felt if you hit the button
just underneath the lasso
so you could erase or generate felt wow that's nice and intuitive i just guessed
yeah i do it to describe what you'd like to add like uh okay uh person's head driving this car
okay sure create yeah she's uh she's cooking doing something she's cooking
i feel like it's too slow to engage the children maybe not maybe not no okay part of the
that could be part of the fun now it looks like they're like in the not in the driver's seat
well technically i didn't say they need to be in the driver's seat they're not really in any seat
i just said they need to be driving the car yeah me before coffee they're like sitting on the ARM rest
kind of i need that it's a profile picture it's going to be my new team's profile picture
i didn't say that he needed to be looking at the road
oh he's looking at a lot of roads yeah uh okay well yeah hold on hold on let's give it
let's give it another try let's give it another try okay okay hold on where's my where's my lasso
here okay um so let's do a let's give her the old okay so we're gonna generate oh right right
okay here we go um okay um a couple put a uh okay dinosaur made out of bread driving a
typical Porsche driver in the driver's seat and his sugar baby in the passenger seat
come on local fyi that's why it's slow i'm i'm embracing the stereotypes okay i'm super down what
what am i looking at what was the prompt wasn't it supposed to be two people
oh who is this guy it's mostly just a smear i think who is this guy i think he's kind of
a pouty lip and like a giant mustache that really does look like the world's largest mustache
it's cyclops oops yeah okay wait to take it back to Porsche because the heated seats don't work
wow so that just i think i think the smaller lasso was definitely the play
okay what what i love it i feel like a poor oh oh i want a cool hood ornament
i'm sorry i'm the wealthy don't have chilled buns my buns are seat temperature
okay not acceptable it's not acceptable oh website again a super cool and classy
apparently there's a try again button oh yeah i probably should have used that that's a good idea
so what are you doing a hood well well mm-hmm to be fair you did kind of put it in a
you did circle kind of a weird spot for a hood ornament what no i wanted to be coming
out of here i don't know i was kind of you circled way above yeah he's kind of she's he's
kind of sitting on there i mean that you could put a hood ornament there sir i just need a second one
technically on the hood whoops is it is it on the fender oh shoot i i control z and it didn't
yeah i i think it's sitting kind of here yeah yeah no for sure so can i can i tell it to well here i'm
co-create co-creator image create can i tell it to like get another one you know
like uh here like can i just like grab this and oh hey it's still paint yep okay well no no that's
fine that's fine i i i can use paint here we go what about what about second one there we go okay
so so hold on i've got a plan for this though remove the background there's a plan yeah yeah yeah yeah
so i'm gonna just give it the old rubber to her oh sure but yeah well oh what oh man the
okay yeah here we go uh good luck with this okay but oh uh okay i think i'm about to remove
something remove just removes so
uh i mean you know um from far enough away you know you go pretty far you gotta go pretty far
away you gotta go pretty far away from far enough away you have now hit the bird yeah well uh oh i
need a license plate okay i need a license plate on the front because i um and after you license plate
i think i'm officially bored yeah that's fair yeah next you get to check out notepad which
would be even more exciting now i'm not doing that i can do that did you want me to do that do
we have to do that i like a lot that it's local i understand it's not as good i didn't realize that
it was local that doesn't seem very impressive i will someone in full plane jet said it is i don't
i'm pretty sure it is this is a snapdragon yep which is so like that's cool i like local of this
stuff that's awesome so even if it's not as good that's fine i mean it's pretty cool yes that that's
a license plate on the car sure is that's a hood ornament it's also on the car that first face
might have been a little cursed but it did kind of look like it was a guy sort of he was in the
car somewhere i mean he might have had the shifter like wedged between his butt cheeks but um it's
not going anywhere yeah that's safe that's it for safety yep what if you got a crash you don't want
it to accidentally go backwards when you meant to go forward yeah yep that's why you got to look
both ways at the same time like that guy that's right that's right yeah he's safe he's a safe driver
so um notepad seriously is there anything to that is important to look at a notepad or i don't know
it does like gender-driven stuff if you want to just like talk about it you can show it i don't
know if it's here's what i'm curious about why are we putting development into notepad and killing
wordpad why didn't we just kill notepad and make wordpad better like what was the what was the
rationale here maybe someone from microsoft anyone from microsoft in the chat do you want to tell me
why notepad was the focus please anyone feel like they killed the wordpad because it was probably
harder to maintain you think so and then they were able to just ignore notepad because there's
nothing going on so it wasn't going to break but they aren't ignoring notepad they're like making
i'm saying why they why they made that decision in the past oh maybe but then
people like me i know very exclusively very committed relationship style using notepad
plus plus for like a decade and we'll never go back so just like wordpad i know it was i know
they killed it because it was too close to word but i needed a way to open docks without yeah
having word like they're just pushing me straight into the arms of google for one time in the last
12 years i've had to open a word document i don't have word installed i have no reason to have word
installed i was still like be able to open this document yeah that's what wordpad was for yeah it
was fine it was not bloaty it was fine open docks is a thing yeah that's fine but the only reason i
don't have word is because i'm just setting up this computer so i don't want to install any software
i just want to open this bloody document because as the serial for the piece of software that i'm
installing or something like it's just i don't know all right let's do another topic yeah so yeah
ms paint it's something luke what do you want to do AMD rockets forward yeah let's do it according
to mercury research AMD's desktop CPU market share has climbed 10 in the last year this has
manifested most clearly in widespread reports that the ryzen 7 9800 x3d has sold out at retailers
throughout europe and north america and i mean i'm not surprised if you ask anyone what CPU they
should get if they're a gamer they say whatever the like best x3d chip is and that's just what it's
been for a while um anyways uh they apparently sold out within minutes on amazon and best buy wow
new egg has claimed that they are out of individual units of the 9800 x3d but they
they are for some unexplained reason still offering the 9800 x3d plus motherboard bundles that's not
an unexplained reason at all i can explain that they need to sell motherboards yep
and AMD in there probably they're regretting it now um AMD in their sort of time of being
necessarily pro consumer um created this expectation of their motherboard sockets lasting
for a very long time so they've created this environment where they launch a new CPU and
there's absolutely no accessory attach sales just new CPU's yep um so new egg's like yeah you're
buying motherboard and a lot of times RAM some of their bundles have motherboards and RAM that's
how they get you yeah further there have been recent reporting that AMD's data center business
unit has started outselling intels for the first time in its history though this comes with some
caveats roughly a billion of AMD's 3.5 billion in data center sales is accounted for by uh
machine learning machine learning mi uh accelerators an area that Intel doesn't
particularly compete in uh without that key one billion dollars Intel's 3.3 billion remains
the top spot Intel knows i've i've heard i didn't dive into it i've heard the the the most recent
gen of Intel server processors are actually quite good despite their consumer stuff being
Intel knows that they have messed up um i think it would be pretty hard to not know that at this
point but okay um Intel knows that they messed up in an interview with hot hardware vp of technical
marketing robert halick acknowledged the launch of aerolake didn't go as planned citing a series of
issues uh the company has now identified at an os level and at the BIOS level um and saying that
the performance we saw in reviews to be very clear no fault of reviewers was not what we expected
and not what we intended um can i interject for a moment
the expectation that you're if you're referring to as not what you expected or as i've been
or as i've come to know it whatever it doesn't matter the point is good i can't remember the
copy past i have i have like 300 confirmed kills yeah yeah yeah you you little s*** sorry another
copy past don't worry about it um the point is what are you talking about yeah that that whole line
was like what if you guys didn't have partner boards and you guys can't like launch a game and like
no offense to our team but compared to the kinds of engineering resources oh yeah that Intel can
afford we're just a bunch of random bumble f***s playing with gaming computers like what if you
guys can't contact Gigabyte or MSI or ASUS be like hey bro do you mind sending over a motherboard
so we can put a CPU in it and maybe open a f***ing game and see if it like gets some FPS the the
tools for evaluating this stuff they're they're all free what are you talking about to be clear i
believe him i believe that this whole thing was super rushed i mean and i believe that they they
absolutely didn't do the planning that they needed to execute this launch the way that they needed to
execute we did not get the 265k yeah we had to go buy one after the fact which to be clear that's
i can afford yeah i went i bought i bought 10 7800 x3d's or whatever it was the problem is the
availability the problem is that our job is to bring you guys information about these products
so that you can make an informed decision and Intel didn't beam it f***ing necessary to send us
probably the most compelling chip in the entire stack so our launch day review just doesn't have
any data for it over what like seriously like like bomb cost of this chip what because so many
people are gonna need to buy them just send us like send us like 80 bucks worth of sand and heat
spreader so we can have the numbers for the people it's really that important to you we can send it
back yeah really honestly what were you thinking sending us the 245k and the 285k and not the middle
of the road what were you thinking bud yeah yeah this didn't go as planned the performance we saw
in reviews was not what we expected dude the last minute changes that we were getting when maybe
what they expected two years ago from this launch maybe i don't know but if the if that expectation
was set anytime even sort of recently like what are you talking about
anyway um yeah and even notice this our own notes have despite their own aerolake launch
benchmarks highlighting the new flagship losing to the 4900k 9950x and 7950x 3d
and then we have links to their slides like yeah like this it was my understanding that they knew
this doesn't make much sense i didn't want to talk about like meetings that we had from them but like
what is this statement here we go where's uh yeah they're literally like yeah we're on par
but like lower power and also we like lose at a lot of games which it's like okay but like
personally i think that's fine it's just not exciting for me to buy it but like you know if
you're like hey this is a massive generational change for us we didn't take as much of a step
forward performance wise as we had hoped but we saved a ton on power and we're hoping that uh
we're able to you know but like literally here's your slide then sure you lose in five games
and you win in four like stop it three no no this one counts four percent is that a
is that a plot oh they didn't make it blue all these ones are blue i don't know i don't do
okay sure it's a lot of really nice praise for our graphs lately um and especially that that last
video so you know shout out um yeah shout out sammy other more different sammy than the last
sammy that i've shouted out today um shout out the team for making graphs that are better than
Intel can make yeah boom roasted yeah because Intel is kind of a big company i mean not as
big as they used to be but they're big well what what what what maybe they maybe maybe they shouldn't
have cancelled and sell extreme tech upgrade maybe that was where it all went down downhill honestly
that was that was the beginning of the i think the timeline of that lines up pretty well yep
if they had just if they had just stuck with Intel extreme tech upgrade this never would happen
yep this is then kitty says salty liners i'm not salty AMD picked it up right where they
left off and uh i don't know if we've ever told AMD this but they pay more well what it was an
established series by that point Intel had the benefit of that they took a risk on it yeah and
then when AMD picked it up it was like well we know this is an absolute banger so uh time to pony up
yeah so yeah makes sense i feel like we've always been pretty open about that yep no man i i don't
know we're we're we're we're a highly transparent company and um you know some people will attack
us for that they'll they'll look for points of they'll look for for gaps in the armor and they'll
kind of try and try and wedge something in there and i think but i think most people i think the
silent majority sees what we do and and sees what we're what we're willing to talk about
and kind of goes okay yeah i think i i think i have the measure of who these guys are and what
they're about and that that's the way it is i mean look i've made it very clear at every stage
that i'm not friends with any of these corporations that we cover i never will be
and this is transactional they want exposure on our channel exposure to our audience we clearly
disclose what is paid and that's it there's your talking points it's separate from our from our
opinions it's all on the on it's on the up and up uh what else do we want to talk about today
oh this is so cool this is so cool youtuber iboff rcc has created a custom pcb add-on
and swappable SSD modules for m-series macbooks this is so cool check this out okay uh
blah blah the design isn't finalized it requires a second mac to run apple configurator to complete
the setup because i don't know apple hates their customers who knows but the diy m.2 port was
demonstrated to take modules up to two terabytes and hit similar speeds to apple's own soldered
storage because of course it does because it's all just hooked up to PCIe anyway these days because
that's what everybody's using for everything and this distinction between oh special apple SSD
and other more different SSD is completely unnecessary other than so that they can sell you
an SSD upgrade for 200 for like 19 dollars worth of nand um anyway iboff found that strangely the
macbook requires the SSD to be installed in order for the battery to charge which they said was just
another reason why the SSD should be replaceable currently apple charges the same amount for two
16 gigs RAM slash 256 gig storage mac mini as it does for a single mac mini with twice the amount
of RAM and storage so literally it's costing you twice as much to just upgrade the RAM and storage
as an entire machine with half as much RAM and storage now this is cool uh curiously there was a
that the posts about that had a lot of traction curiously it seems that the new m4 mac mini does
have a single removable storage module however mac rumors notes that it's likely that the controller
for the storage is still embedded in the soc limiting diy upgrade and repair similar modules
have been found in the mac studio and the mac pro anyway i just want to i just want to show this this
is so cool i hate that this innovation which is super cool is necessary i don't understand why
apple hates their customers so much and i don't understand why their customers continue to bend
over and take it and be happy about it but the modding is really cool and i've enjoyed that
on this show and in the last show we've been able to highlight some cool community
modders that are finding ways oh sorry sorry sorry his mod was on the mac book that's the
mac mini replaceable module from apple sorry sorry sorry sorry sorry oh that was the wrong
pick i was showing hold on hold on i'll find it my bad you guys i have something to go over when
you after you find that no i thought that didn't look right i hadn't seen the uh i hadn't seen the
m4 mac thing yet you muted me yeah you played that audio oh yeah yeah i i hadn't seen the i hadn't
seen the m4 mac mini one yet but i thought that man that's not what the thing looked like is it yeah
here it is dude so cool so you guys got to go watch this uh here Dan do you want to throw the
throw the link in everything but Floatplane chat i'll throw it in Floatplane chat
bookmark this go watch it later dude how cool is that yeah love it sick i'll check that out yeah
okay you brought up our graphs looking nice i mean you thought they were better than intels
well i mean it's not that i think they're better than you said it's that Intel hates their graphs
aggressively they're unhappy that we're better at Intel everything that Intel does that we also do
kidding um can my iphone just like chill out and stop interfering with my mic yeah um okay
i think i'm done with the iphone i'm wondering yeah when are you switching off you said i shot
the video today oh yeah video shot um okay witness i'm interested you got some you got some silver
spray paint yeah yeah i am interested in your thoughts in how much this adds or doesn't add to
the video okay all right okay
did you see no watch keep watching keep watching keep watching wait for the next one he's i'm
sure he's just talking right now yeah whoa you see what do you think if it's very little work
what are your thoughts then it's super cool whoa
yeah if it's very much work do you think would be defined as very little work
um like having the basically having the graph the anime like this one so the phone that we're
actually talking about gets like kind of inserted in yeah like that so here's my thing um i think
if you have a video that has i would say less than half a dozen graphs then by all means spend the
extra 15 minutes that it'll take to do this to each one or five minutes or whatever it is
if you have a video that's like a CPU review and there's 20 30 graphs
i forbid it the reason why i'm asking is basically when when Labs is exporting
graphs and charts and stuff it would be exported in a different format
because it's like okay do we export the ai file so it's modifiable by the editor
or do we export just like a png
i think it looks pretty nice i think it looks pretty nice when you're saying when there's
when there's like like the the the most recent CPU video that we did yep like the amount of
graphs that were in this that could get that could get cumbersome i could see that and the
thing is that there's probably a lot there's also a lot of lines i'd say a solid 75 percent of the
time on LTT and i'm going to bring up your laptop here i'd say a solid 75 percent of the time on
LTT when we're uploading a really graph heavy video it's an embargo video yes we're pushing we are
time constrained we're already we're already crunching yeah so if you tell me yeah we're
going to add something unnecessary we're going to animate it we're going to make it pretty we're
going to make it shiny i'm going to say give me a really really good reason and i'm sorry but pretty
is not a good enough reason in this case i don't think that um i don't think that i see a clear
enough benefit now if your team can figure out how all of that just happens automatically and
there's some kind of like slick web interface for file or whatever where you just kind of say like
highlight this one and then it just like runs a magic behind the scenes animation thing or
something i don't i don't know this is the one of importance so it does some yeah i don't know
we can explore that type of stuff that is not what that looked like to me that looked like that
wasn't i don't believe that was that that looked like after effects or something like that i don't
know yeah yeah i'm i'm not sure exactly what they used for that keep the file um the only like
honestly and the other thing too is like there's a little bit of a fitting if it ain't broke don't
fix it in in my response as well people are super happy with this there's things that i would do
differently um i prefer a highlight compared to a dot at the end i prefer a box i vastly prefer a
box a red wireframe box i don't i don't want to actually highlight it i want it to be around it
but i was told that the audience largely preferred the dot even though for me the dot is much more
difficult to track because it moves in multiple on multiple axes yeah um but you know this is a
this is one of those cases where i'm not just going to i'm not just going to impose my will
because at the end of the day who's our boss audience to just knocking down what i'm setting up
do you know how to say anything yeah you'll just he'll you'll just knock down everything you know
what fine i'm gonna give the hints anyway it's not me and it's not taren there go ahead you can do it
again it's Dan it's the audience i'm not liking the projections of where we're going i want more
luke huh more luke in videos huh uh huh um i'm down put me in coach
i'm gonna strike the wancho okay yeah anyway um yeah no i yeah it's it's cool but i just don't
i just don't see the um man what would i compare this to that i mean that Mac Address video only
had like three guys well that's the thing so yeah it's okay yeah it's like i could see on a more
like lifestyle channel they're also really early in the video mm-hmm so that's that's something that
you guys will now that i'm gonna say it you're gonna notice it we make much heavier investments
in yeah like you have to more expensive shots locations props um editing in the first like
few minutes of a video compared to what we're willing to do toward the end we aren't operating on
the kinds of budgets that someone like uh you know a mr beast might or whatever so that every every
second of the video is designed with the expectation that you you will be watching it and you must
continue to watch it we're just it's it's like yeah realistically not everyone is going to be into
this server network card so we'll do everything we can to hook you and if it doesn't work it doesn't
work we're kind of okay with that protect the server network card from incoming hackers and
win a million dollars the server network card is in a pit the pit is full of snakes oh there's a
train coming what are you gonna do the train's on fire this is just tech support saw now i don't
even watch mr beast videos all of that guessing is just from his thumbnails oh yeah absolutely
oh boy uh files are stored on the server it's running right now you must pull out the hard drive
while it's running i hired seven xcia members to try to break into your server room can use keep them
out for 24 hours maybe do i get a mini gun uh all right what are we supposed to be um
i don't know we're supposed to be doing topics i guess keep doing topics until we go to after
there and maybe it says a hundred hours of gaming ought to be enough for anyone wrong i mean i'm not
necessarily news i'm not necessarily proud that they're wrong but they are wrong wrong and video
announced a few changes to g-force now their game streaming service the majority of which were upgrades
the priority membership tier has been rebranded as performance and will now have a max resolution
of 1440p instead of 1080p while remaining at ten dollars a month and it also comes with an ultra
wide option super cool wait a hundred hours monthly oh they're like actually wrong people are
actually gonna be upset about that can you stop getting ahead of things no however both the performance
tier and the 20 ultimate tier will now have a 100 hour monthly limit which luke spoiled what
which NVIDIA says i'm learning about this right now it is doing to avoid global price increases
because some random people are putting in 200 hours a week the limit works out to just above
three hours a day which NVIDIA says accommodates 94 of their user base nonetheless some users
six percent of them uh did the math for them there uh were extremely unhappy and expressed
doubt that 94 of g-force now users were using it a hundred hours a month or less i have some
bad news for you guys NVIDIA is probably not lying you actually have a problem you win in those gaming
lobbies because you don't do anything else yeah um which isn't a problem it's okay to have a problem
that's not a problem it's just you can quit you can quit anytime you want yeah NVIDIA will charge
three dollars for an additional 15 hours of performance and six dollars for 15 hours of
ultimate so basically you're paying a third you're paying a third of your monthly rate
for how does that math work it's more expensive oh yeah it's more expensive why is it more expensive
that's stupid i think it would be less expensive yeah no you think it would be more expensive
because the other one is subsidized by the people who use it so little no no that makes sense
yeah it would be more expensive so that's probably closer to what it actually costs them
which interestingly probably gives us some insight into the actual math for how much people are
actually using the service compared to um like if you if you use it so if they can afford what was
it a hundred hours a month for 10 bucks and another 15 hours costs them three dollars then basically
what that means is for every person who's using it a hundred hours you've got people who are barely
touching it forgot about the subscription using that zero hours yeah in order to have that math
work out uh oh but very very interesting plus there's some profit margin baked into both calculations
probably um yep live streaming is extremely expensive none of this surprises me at all
and especially when you make it like difficult live streaming it also doesn't surprise me
at all that um you know now that you're locked into a subscription service that subscription
service would look to alter the deal this is why we should probably you know refrain scrapyard
wars uh like uh you know a mediocre pc rather than buy into a subscription service that can be
yoinked on us at any time i thought you were gonna said put up the cost of a Floatplane subscription
yeah yeah spend your money on Floatplane instead got them oh how much does wan cost asks
luke 103 a bunch i don't think we know exactly do we oh no you do there's ways figured out i don't
know i thought my head it also changes like per episode because we'll we'll stream for two hours
then we'll stream for four and a half so like i'm gonna start sending it 40 meg can you cut
sure actually like why don't we just do it won't make a difference to be honest
twitch will freak out oh oh yeah well yeah but that's their problem it's not a problem i mean
because what we receive from here oh yeah that actually doesn't oh yeah i'm sure we transcode it
anyway yeah who cares garbage garbage in garbage out though less garbage in less garbage out let's
do it at 8k 8k WAN Show that actually reminds me man these c200s have been absolute just tanks
workhorses yeah yeah we we used to use these for like trade shows and stuff and
we end up not getting a lot of use out of them there but boy have they ever been
great for the WAN Show look at that we got all these camera angles it's like
i've got a c100 at home uh yeah they're undestructible yeah great little cameras
yeah yes i think these c200s are like eight grand a body though but you know maybe well
there's no way they're worth that anymore not anymore absolutely not okay yeah i think we did
pay quite a lot for them um that speaking of quite paying quite a lot for it uh the dow drops
Intel Intel has been removed from its 25 year position in the dow jones industrial average
i think we hinted to this last week but it has happened i guess uh the go-to benchmark to measure
the health of the u.s stock market being the dow jones industrial average uh this likely indicates
that the maintainers of the dow jones believe that Intel's recent struggles are skewing the average
in a way not generally reflective of the market as a whole and they were like damn we can get
invidion here and then they did that its position has been replaced with invidia which the s and p
dow jones indicates apparently views as a more accurate reflection of the chip making sector
to that i don't necessarily agree with i don't agree with that at all as much of an anomaly as
Intel has been over the last little bit yeah they're just on the other end of it yeah which
i understand why you want that but what you're saying just isn't true anyways um yeah discussion
question uh isn't via really the company that's most reflective of the sector no
nice it is a good discussion question we just got to it too early um a network along your skin
researchers at Carnegie Mellon University have developed a method of transmitting
40 megahertz rf energy along human skin allowing the user to remotely power extremely small wearable
devices that otherwise could not fit a battery such as a patch that logs medical data whoa this
power could be delivered from head to toe from a power source worn elsewhere on the body startup
xana has created a prototype yr chip that uses a similar method to send bluetooth slash
wi-fi signals through the body's skin thereby connecting multiple devices without broadcasting
a wider potentially insecure signal this would likewise allow users to share a connection
oh through skin to skin contact except like a handshake or a high five you could literally
like handshake someone and like exchange contact information whoa like if you had yeah some like
wearable modern handshakes isn't that cool whoa you touch people says sinful hands i mean yeah well
geeks are it's kind of funny that yeah someone whose name in chat is sinful hands says you touch
people just kind of works it does it works yeah you're not as on as me today i'm sorry
rude so the discussion question here is what kinds of wearable devices can you imagine with this
technology i mean medical ones i think are obvious we can kind of what about embedded ones too
embedded in the skin well i don't know the signal goes along the skin so you'd almost have to have
i mean that would be kind of cyberpunk looking right because you'd have all the contacts and
traces on the surface interesting and then it's just like you know buried in your muscle somewhere
whatever else like a uh man i don't know like could you could you
because like if you had a heart rate monitor yeah that didn't increase the bulk along your body
that could be kind of nice yeah that'd be pretty cool and neuro amp what do you guys what are you guys talking about yeah if you had a heart rate monitor
that was powered through you i guess and it could maybe like uh remotely transmit to your phone or
something so you could still check what it's reading be interesting i mean yeah you could say
powered tattoos oh that'd be cool e-ink tattoos that would be so cool okay now people are getting
me some some good ideas here imagine a tattoo that changes based on your heart rate yeah and then
oh my god yeah you could have like a little display in your inner
inner wrist what about earrings with lights on them dude you could have
comp yeah that'd be sick you you could have complicated like tattoos yeah reveal different
details based on other powered jewelry or like oh man you dude you could have so you could have
like a necklace that like changes color with your mood except actually you know not like those like
cheap mood rings or whatever actually based on something that is like actually based on like
your anxiety level and stuff like that like and and sure yeah the privacy issues you know people
would do it you know you know people would do it internal cardiac monitors dude this is so cool
i mean my thought is like i'm just surreptitiously touching the back of your neck and stealing all
your data and stuff like that right they're like Dan i shake your hand and i gotta go there with it
who you don't even have the courage to show your face telling us all your ideas about stealing
other people's data and you can't okay the other is apparently this is a thing already internal
cardiac monitors yeah i think so implantable loop recorders put them in your heart because they
just run on like super super long life batteries yeah i guess um but but this the cool thing about
it is that you're doing networking and power just over the skin so you just have like a little pack
on your wrist like where a watch would be and it could just power and communicate
as almost like a like a smart home hub like a smart body hub what if it's in your back pocket
and then you just sit down on a wireless charging chair whoa yeah but charging whoa
i mean that would probably be actually a really good idea so is that like a small penalty
like if they if the center gets attacked if the quarterback just like runs into the center
what are we talking about
anyways um steam moving on yeah steam recording super cool feature
um steam is officially launched built-in game recording which allows gamers to record their
sessions without using a second app players can start a recording manually or set it to start
automatically and there are likewise options to restrict the length quality and storage space
that steam can use these settings can be configured differently for each game however the accessibility
of these recording options and the broader audience of steam users might cause problems
for users who are less familiar with things like SSD degradation as pointed out by u slash
crash underscore spec tekel steam game recording has a max write rate of 50 megabits per second
around 22 and a half gigabytes per hour if it was used regularly at the highest settings
this could cause significant SSD degradation over time notably the highest write quality on
NVIDIA's own recording feature maxes out at 150 megabits per second which is significantly higher
but is also something that you generally um is generally a little more tech savvy to access
rather than just what you know your your kids using the family computer are going to be able to
figure out how to configure our discussion question is is this a realistic concern for most
people and um i'm of kind of two minds on this on the one hand yes this will compare to how the
average user is expected to use their pc and what SSD makers have been targeting over the last 10
years with the move from slc to mlc to tlc to qlc to even plc flash um with far far less endurance
as we as we move yeah to each new generation but higher capacity meaning that you're less likely
to overwrite it but then now that we're going to overwrite it we've we've we've been building
toward we've been building products for this paradigm where people are like kind of occasionally
copying some footage or downloading a new game but generally speaking are barely even
hotching their drive which is pretty accurate for rights yeah and then we're adding we're
throwing this into the mix i think i do think that people who didn't think they needed a premium
drive with better endurance are going to suddenly find out oh i do i do need a premium drive with
better endurance however the other side of me wants to point out that it's been studied a
couple of times small sample sizes unfortunately so i don't know how reliable and how trustworthy it
is but it's been looked at a couple of times by i forget which publications have done it
where they've done endurance tests on SSD's and found that in general they actually last
way longer than what they're rated for pretty good yeah so i also you when i use uh shadow play i
just write to my hard drive sorry just gotta move my leg there we go but yeah yeah you should
probably just use a hard drive for this yeah in a nas ideally but most people most people don't have
a nas i mean they're really there really hasn't been like a nas a diy nas software that is easy
enough to use that uh oh wait for it that just anyone who could build their own pc could just
install it and be good to go and could figure everything and i gotta come up all the shares
just work out that's that's the one that hopefully theoretically i just invested in proxmox
oh yeah sure that's easy and approachable for every man yeah yeah yeah
that voices dance like i am screaming inside i am also dying oh it's fine
i think it's time for my voices that's sure let's go
dance switching it over park pushing the buttons
all right we got a lot of urch messages today oh not not too too many too many i think we're
doing pretty okay um let's see hey oh dll notice the apple watch accompanying the switch to iphone
minus what do you think of it so far um considering how amped i was on smart watches at the start
like i loved my pebble um i have just kind of completely fallen out of love with them
and maybe it's because the product category sort of moved away from me maybe it's because
i moved away from the product category like it feels like at the beginning they were about
getting notifications without taking your phone out of your pocket and in some cases as they as
they got a little bit more sophisticated interacting with those notifications to make them go away
and and you can still do that like being able to get a text while i'm while i'm on the court at the
gym or something like that and uh you know fire back a quick message uh it's fine it's good
but all they're like trying to do too much all the functionality that they've added since then
around you know telling me to stand up like sure yeah i can't right now i'm in the middle of i'm
in the middle of podcast recording like you know like it doesn't it doesn't have the awareness
to just make the the cameras the table everything we should just make everything
stand yeah everything just 45 minutes sure yeah let me get let me get right on hell yeah um
so all this all this extra stuff that they've added the health tracking it doesn't it's not
meaningful to me i mean when i'm a senior citizen and i'm worried about you know fall detection or
whatever else yeah maybe maybe i'll be more more interested in something like that but it
health tracking that especially apple has been doing is really cool yeah it's really cool i think
not necessarily relevant i think ploof made a really good point in his script where we were
talking about their most recent event where he was like yeah it's funny how the older tim apple gets
the uh the more seniors health tracking makes its way into their product it's also aging generation
of a lot of western countries absolutely the most affluent generation in the united states
is the baby boomers and they are they're getting older they be old they're getting older yeah so i
it's nice to be able to tell the time quickly and conveniently on my wrist
you can do that with a lot of things i don't like having to charge it every day that's a downer
um you notice i'm not wearing it today i've just forgot to put it on and i didn't notice until
someone asked me what time it was that was really the only i don't know maybe part of it is that
since i first got a smartwatch i just am like on my phone a lot more and that that's that
that's probably a bad thing maybe i should get in the habit of using my watch to interact with
notifications if it got you off your phone more often which reduced the total phone and watch
usage time then i think that there's value there yeah but if you're just replacing phone time
with watch time one to one i don't see value there personally i don't use any of the other apps like
to me the whole um like i am exercising right now this is the type of exercise i'm doing
until you can just tell that i'm exercising with all of your advanced sophisticated measures and uh
uh sensors and everything what are what are we even doing here like i it's it to me it's like
counting calories like i'm i'm logging the thing that i'm eating and and that's really useful for
a lot of people depending on what your goals are 100% yeah 100% depending on your goals
that has a ton of value for me it has i am not even close dude i can go take something out of my
freezer and think okay i need to go into my food checklist app and i need to update the
inventory in the freezer and by the time i have put it down on the counter i have completely
forgotten that i needed to do that expecting me to count calories or remember to like log
that i'm about to start exercise it's not gonna happen the only way i was able to count calories
was when i had preplanned what i was gonna eat for the entire day and i never deviated because
then it was like okay well i could put in my calories for the next week you know like it's
it's figured out already um someone says they really like it for sleep tracking
dude if i have to the only way that i can remember to charge something is if it's overnight so
yeah there's people at work here that have an apple watch charger on their desk
so they'll take it off and they'll put it on the charger so that they can use it for sleep
tracking i would leave my watch at work every other day 100% oh yeah there's absolutely no way
that it would make it home five out of five days in a week i'd probably leave it at your house
half the time i visit you oh yeah sure dude you would leave your keys at my house if you were
able to leave without them like yeah 100% that would be a hilarious troll sometimes you just
leave your key in your car and then just like see if you leave without your keys because i i bet you
would probably all right what else we got okay let's see archive hey dll my friends and i have a
long-running tradition during a LAN party on black friday every year what are some of your favorite
memories games and food to have at a LAN party van galley says new watch charges so fast i literally
only put it on the charger when i shower and otherwise we're at 24 seven bold of you to assume
i shower every day only only exercise days which is at least every it's about two out of every three
days so i'm not a complete i'm not a complete like barbarian or whatever but um yeah no my life
is not routine enough for anything that doesn't fit in the very limited routines that i can manage
um starcat one says shower every day man you you know you don't have to right
just i'm just saying i'm just saying you and it and it's totally fine to shower every day
but you also like don't have to or maybe you do which is fine
i'm not judging yeah for me honestly it depends how stressed i get oh stress sweat stinks oh
mine is i'm sure everyone says but i only really have experience with my mind is brutal too if i'm
just chilling yep it's not a big deal slather on another layer of deodorant yeah like
probably doesn't really matter if i if i have some like really serious conversations
a boy i need to shower like it's not it's not an option vast a certain point yeah oh man um
lan land memories games and food dude uh i think it was like cod 2 which i had never played
um i got a bunch of copies of it from work because there was like a cod 2 like GPU bundle and we
didn't move through them all i was like can i have some of these discs they were like okay so i showed up at this land i had like eight copies of cod 2 and we completely lost track of
whatever the objective was supposed to be and we started playing this like king of the hill
except it was like at the very top of this water tower and there was like over half a dozen of us
so it was functionally impossible to get to the top of it i think it it happened that way because
someone got up there unnoticed at some point in the match and just started like spawn sniping
everybody um and we're like what the heck that's a good spot i want it and it just devolved into the
the longest like completely knows there's no scorekeeping because it wasn't part of the game
mode of the game but just the longest most ridiculously impossible king of the hill match
those are the best that i've ever participated in custom goals custom rules all that kind of stuff
those are always like the best way to play games it's it's more fun my my favorite land memory
and i'm not even gonna remember it correctly because it was from so long ago but uh my birthdays
when i was in high school were always land parties at my parents house and one year we went really
hard on halo two custom rules versus and we if i remember correctly we we had like it was a birthday
party so we we tried to go a little bit overboard and we we had people bring like couches and tvs
and stuff from their houses and we put if i think i'm getting this right i could be wrong i think
this is how it worked i think we had two tvs and two couches in the garage and two tvs and two
couches inside and there was one team inside and one team outside and we had a tournament of of halo
two on one particular map that i'm not going to remember the name of um and it was it was either
like swords and shotguns or i feel like it was swords and rockets but i feel like we played
more swords and shotguns but i don't know i don't remember why i'm thinking rocket but it came to
it was 49 49 there was two players alive and it came down to the the there was one with a sword
and one with whatever the other weapon was i think it was a rocket and they both attacked at the same
time no way nobody won the game until the score screen came up no way and the house just exploded
it was crazy it was so cool it was so like oh man like uh it was great it was really it was very
fun and like every part of that land those types of lands are fun because like people are showing up
with couches in the backs of their like their parents van yeah and their parents are like i
don't even understand what's happening but i mean at least you're not like doing drugs or something
so fine and then we're like finding ways to to network these these two xboxes together and we're
not only planning on playing xbox we also have another network going on for all these computers
and we're all learning how this stuff works buying switches from ncax doing whatever getting
stuff going like the whole thing's just super fun i don't know those were those were good times i
feel like kids are kind of missing out on that my uh my son was playing rocket league with one of
his friends and i was like hey you never invite me to play games he was like okay yeah my dad's
joining us and they're like okay sure whatever we'll carry uh you know how bad i am at rocket league
i did one useful thing though would you do i don't know i remember i like hit it somewhere
that was useful and then we scored oh okay don't worry about it anyway the point is um his friend
pulled off what's it called a reset or something like that a flip reset sure yeah so he you touch
your wheels to the puck while it's in the air and then you get another jump i'm assuming that's
what happened it so uh it was with the ball it's not a bright place no day anyways anyway the point
is you have to touch all four wheels to the ball while you're in the air and then you get another
flip while you're in the air which is beneficial in some way or something yeah and he was really
excited about pulling it off or whatever and um he was sitting in his house by himself yeah and we
were on a discord call and so you know that was cool but like it's cool it's not the same it's
different um yeah i feel like things get diluted right and like you think it's the same and a lot
of people don't do land parties anymore because they're like oh we can just play over the internet stuff but it's not it's not man and no one can cheat in person which man it's such a problem
online now oh you you can but it's like it's a lot harder not with friends like you can but you won't
but like i mean that's yeah and there's even some fun in that because then i don't know i find the
setup of this type of stuff interesting i know not everyone would but like the whole idea of being
in the garage and stuff was there is no screen peeking to screen peek you'd have to run through
the house like it's not happening yeah but you can still hear each other if you look the doors
propped open so you can see each other yeah but the screens are this way to each other right so you
can't you can't see the screens but you can yell at each other and do whatever yeah it's just good
times yeah all right hey dll how's your day going it's been a long week it's been it's been a week
when and what are your plans for bonus bin items i have so many stickers yes i could just get more
sticks uh hope you feel better soon Linus um i don't know i think we want to do some like
little vinyl figures at one point i know we're gonna do more pins vinyl figures um honestly
sarah would know this so much better than me maybe next time ask when she does like a design stream
or something like that because she's she's in the know when it comes to all of that
are you asking her now should i move on no no i'm i sarah's off work no hey lld from australia
any thoughts on the 9800 x3d not being in stock anywhere was the release rushed in your opinion
not nearly as rushed as coral to 200 series but um i feel like every product release gets
kind of crunched and rushed to a certain extent it's at a certain point you you have to you're
working with retail partners you're working with all these other people there has to be a certain
point in time when you launch the thing yeah there's deadlines and no i mean it's easier to not have
those types of deadlines with with things like independent game launches because you set the
date but in this situation like there's a lot of moving pieces you're screwing a lot of different
people over if you move your date back so yep or forward or wherever like changing anything really
disrupts the plans and distributors and and in such a globalized world right there's there's always
a time zone where it's highly problematic for someone to be having to deal with this right now
hey dll now that you have some new cats when can we expect the next Linus cat tips video i uploaded
a short for some reason i was feeling just inspired to and one of them like grabbed my feet from
under the bed and i was like that'd be funny and then they didn't really do it the same way when i turned on the camera and then i was like ah this wasn't really worth it so i didn't bother doing
anymore that's where i'm at on that fair enough yeah hey dll have you heard about the iphone users
having all their notes deleted after accepting iCloud's new terms of service i had six months of
important notes not backed up due to my five gigs of iCloud being full wow i have not heard uh but
hey it just works uh dude i feel like i'm gonna make some enemies with my iOS 18 slash iphone 16
i know you will video i um i am i am certain because man i uh like there's one point where i'm
just like i think the next time someone tells me it's magic it just works whatever i i don't know
if i'll be able to help it i might just laugh in their face like i it's just it's such a it's such a
like galactically stupid thing to say at this point and i'm not saying that Android is perfect
and just works and i'm not saying Windows is perfect and just works i'm saying they're all trash
they're all human they're all full of bugs and problems like let's just let's just not pretend
that's that's it let's not pretend that because someone says it so that it must be thusly like
that's not how things work if something like uh and i think the thing that i was going off on
was uh the way to sign in to your google account on an iphone um which i know how to do and and
we've talked about and i figured out but it is just to say that that's intuitive good design
is just so utterly incorrect um but i just i don't really we're clearly not living on the same
planet speaking the same language so i don't even know how to talk to you like if you think that
going into the apple mail app in order to sign into your google account system wide
is intuitive or good design it's it's just not it just isn't um and it's funny because i was
reflecting on it some more and you know how the settings app is where it used to be before that
if i recall correctly it actually used to be in the initial setup wizard am i am i remembering
incorrectly because i i seem to recall that it used to be i think that was the case on Android oh
it's definitely the case on it's still the case on Android but i recall seeing that uh like like
google microsoft that that interface right when you are setting up the phone initially um
yeah no it was yeah it's it's it's amazing yeah people are saying yes yeah maldar the first says
wait do they not just have an account section in settings no they do not it is not there and the
people that are like well you're just used to Android no apple used to have it you could be
used to literally any other phone and that's where it should be yes yes they do not have it and yes
that is on purpose you guys so so whenever people say to me yeah apple is just like it's more intuitive
they're just wrong apple's design can be wrong and there's a lot of things they did really well
intuitive is subjective though isn't it because it could be intuitive to a different person who has
different expectations and different approaches but you can measure these things so one of the
ways that i measured this one was i checked the number of ratings on the app store for the first
party gmail app and the first party google calendar app because if you'll recall what i wanted to do
was i wanted to use my gmail app and i wanted to use apple's calendar app because i wanted to try it
i don't i don't actually have any attachment to apple's calendar app but i wanted to try it out
but what i'm not interested in using is apple's mail app i i don't like it i've never liked it
i prefer to just use the gmail app and what i found was that the the google gmail app had
2.2 million ratings on the app store the google calendar app had like 100 000 so what i can tell
you objectively is that my setup where i wanted to roll the gmail app and apple's own calendar app
is clearly a thing that people are doing 20 times the download rate of the gmail app versus
the google calendar app so the number of people replacing their email client on the iphone compared
to the number of people replacing their calendar client with google's first party alternatives
or third party alternatives rather but email is something that's like more important it's it's
less replaceable than calendar because other people have your contact
no no all i'm saying is is it wasn't intuitive for me necessarily and neither would it necessarily
be for a lot of people to open up apple's mail app and use that because clearly lots of people
don't use it they use the google one and clearly not all of those people also replace the google
calendar app they want to do exactly what i wanted to do use the gmail app and the apple
calendar app right 20 times as many ratings so and you and you can't you can't do what if you
sign or you can but if you sign into the gmail app it doesn't sign you in system white
in order to sign your google account in on an iphone you have to launch apple's mail app
and sign into your gmail there okay there's nowhere else to do it what is the system what
other things are handyman saying this isn't true um what what other things are you trying to have
logged in i guess well i want my i want my contacts to sync you want your oh i want my calendar to
sync okay i want i want my google account signs things like your your phone yeah you can do it
in the settings no you can't here it is in my pocket there's a bunch of different people saying
it right now i think this is going to be the biggest problem with the video you're almost
going to have to have like an unlisted companion video that goes over like and just like actually
it really is this stupid here's the here's the defense minus cam settings here we go
okay all right so here is yep here we go just making sure there's nothing particularly okay
here we go here is settings accounts no third party accounts just i cloud just sign in with apple
nothing else here's the rest of the settings settings apple account i cloud mail that's the
same thing isn't it there is but it's not you can't sign into gmail there settings apple
account i cloud mail but i don't use i cloud settings apps calendar accounts settings hold on
hold on hold on hold on settings apps apps where's that okay calendar um right below calculator yeah
are you kidding me there's a google button
should we like go hold on a second hold on a second is your argument that that's intuitive
to add an account to that app if you're an iOS user and it's worked that way for 10 years like
but it didn't use to how did it used to i don't i never you i've never once mainline an iphone
there used to be in settings an accounts parent menu handyman i don't think he's saying that
you didn't show him two weeks ago he's saying that that doesn't seem intuitive i'm saying it's not
intuitive so we will have to do can you not get there in the app or something or like what's
no you can't that you definitely cannot so that feels unintuitive to me you can also do it in that
you can get there in the mail app not in the calendar app but if i'm an iOS user am i used to
going to that settings page to do things like that so here's what happens here's what happens when
you open mail and you aren't signed in you are prompted to sign in so that thing that we got on
the other page yes here's what happens if you open up the first party calendar app and you are not signed
in yeah so i'm assuming it just uses like a local account which again this is what i was kind of
trying to point out earlier is like add calendar no nothing there add no that's an event but but
people are a little bit more just temporal the right word like like calendars are kind of whatever
compared to an email account sure but so hold on but the part you're missing is i'm signing into an
email but i'm using the gmail app i don't want to use apple's mail app yeah but like i'm not interested
in it i don't necessarily if i sign into my microsoft account on my phone i don't necessarily
want to import my microsoft calendar into my calendars app no but you can be prompted what
you do or don't want to sync when you add an account agree but does it work that way like what's
is there a default calendar app on it would be the google calendar on Android Android yeah i don't
know that it asks you if you want your microsoft calendar stuff in here add another account can
i add a non microsoft account this way checking info lux soon stuff he's cooking it's a google it
immediately assumes a google account um manage accounts on this device so that should that
should bring you to where it brings me to any kind of account you want setting yes but it
does it's not actually it's not calendar specific it's just like everything no but you would go in
your calendar app and you would tell it which calendars you want to sync i'm in my calendar app
though and add another account is just google accounts and then i have manage accounts which
just brings me to all general sorry what's the question though it's if there's no there's no
prompt to add the microsoft account you're saying you're saying it would be more intuitive if there's
a prompt i'm saying i don't think there's a prompt on Android if there's a prompt to add what though
the the microsoft account oh the microsoft account no i would say a apple calendar thing but i don't
have one of those so i can't no no i expected account management the place i expected to
find account management was under my name here at the top sure oh oops i'm gonna figure this up
cam only there we go the place i would expect to find it is under my name here at the top where my
apple account and my i cloud is i would i would expect to maybe find all of my accounts there
i might expect it to find i might expect to find it under accounts like under you know general
accessibility you know siri you know all my accounts here those are places where i would
expect to find system-wide accounts that i log into that work across multiple apps
hmm what i wouldn't expect is for the mail the default mail and the default calendar app to
operate completely different ways in terms of adding a new account so when i when i click on mail
it immediately prompts me hey do you want to sign in to one of these types of accounts and we've
got important thing important account types like aol for example in there uh when i go into the
calendar one it prompts me for nothing so the only real point that i have with the calendar versus
mail one is that they behave completely different ways yeah after i've already like gone into my
my settings menu and what would be the most intuitive settings place for me different ways
is the unintuitive portion after i've already gone into the settings and gone okay where the
devil do i sign into my bloody google account mm-hmm yeah i'm just saying it it's not prompting you
for any other accounts on on Android either
rysaw says it was much better in iOS 17 they created the new apps menu at the bottom of
settings in iOS 18 if i recall correctly the whole um finding finding settings under apps
has been a thing for a really long time uh like i man i forget there was something years ago
that i was trying to figure out how the heck to do and it turns out that it was like oh you know
what was it that was it something was i trying to change something on the camera or something
i forget what it was but i had to dig into apps in order to change something that that seemed
like it would be sort of fundamental to the system i know sorry i so the so the goofy like
hiding settings in under apps thing um even though they are system-wide and not necessarily
specific to that particular app that's not new uh but i don't know to your point i haven't used iOS
17 so i don't know i don't know what they have i think you just think that they should be which
is fine well if they affect more than one app yeah but that doesn't mean they're system-wide it means
they affect that means they aren't that app that setting is are you saying one setting is changing
things system no i'm saying when you log into a google account yeah but i don't think you're
logging into a system-wide account on iphone it well okay well sorry we're using the term system-wide
very differently what i'm saying is that you are logged into an account that is inherently logged
in the second you open up another supported app that uses that same login if i log into my mail
account immediately my calendars will sink so it's my contacts will say indicated and all that okay
okay okay so so that's that's what doesn't make sense to me why i have to open apple's mail account
to do that or to your guys's point i have to go dig into apps find something that happens to be
google will chrome work no chrome doesn't work i can't log into my google account in chrome brilliant
um i'll have to find a different one docs docs doesn't work docs doesn't have the login
drive maybe drive uh the login for what though for my google account i i'm not logged into it
but like so but if i go to mail if i go to hold on mail now i can log in my google account
and it will work with those other things can you can you view outlook through the gmail app i don't
use outlook so i don't know yeah like i don't know if maybe you can i don't know if you can add
third-party apps to the the gmail account so i think the fact that theirs is clunky
what apparently you can really you can add outlook to the gmail account oh oh wait oh okay yeah yeah
okay i don't have it set up that way yeah yeah no the gmail the gmail app is just a mail client
multifunction mail yep yeah 100 because like what i'm looking at right now is yeah if and
i don't want to show you guys sorry if i go add an account yes this will eventually load
and it's it's only google accounts yeah so okay fine if i go manage accounts on this device yep
it brings me to password pass keys in autofill and it doesn't bring up things that could sink
that's not if i use that phone then i would say that that's trash and that's not intuitive yeah okay
so my point is not that Android is better yeah my point is that that is terrible and is not
intuitive if i wanted to log in an account if i had never touched an Android phone or an iphone before
and i wanted to and i wanted to get get my like google calendar and that was like the first thing
that i wanted to do where do i go from here how would i how would i do it from here there is
literally yeah no way to be prompted to sign in to some other type of account literally no way
i'm not gonna lie i'm immediately lost because i i feel so lost the second i touch an iphone
that's not an iphone problem that's a that's a mini problem but um yeah i would personally like
there to be a setting in the app somewhere i generally like it when i can fully operate
things from within the app i don't like it when i have to go to external settings on on anything
whether that's a desktop device um any form of phone whatever it doesn't matter so the you just
fundamentally don't understand how this is working it's not a system wide account what you're saying
is false i believe uh if i want my calendar to sync i have to sign in to the mail app
really yes now i was shown that other way i can also go into settings right so i can also
go into settings apps calendar and i can add a calendar account here
does not go through the mail app but but it's still it's still a lot of clicks clunky that's
what you're saying and it was a very different interface compared to when i went to the mail
app and i was immediately prompted to sign into my gmail so if you open mail first the way that
you're being trained to interact with the phone is not the same as when you open the calendar
correct yeah settings apps calendar accounts make sense to me though it does make sense to me too
but his point is that when you open the mail app another first party app that is highly related
to calendar i would say um it doesn't work the same way yeah so he just just in case you didn't
see that he clicked on the mail app he's not currently signed into anything so it immediately
prompts him to log into stuff when he clicks on the calendar app there is no prompt now i have an
iCloud account because you have to sign into an iCloud account in order to like sign into the
phone in order to set up the phone as far as i know can you set it up with an apple account maybe
you can i've never tried um so that's the calendars that it's pulling it's pulling like ancient apple
calendars open open calendar i saw this button earlier but i didn't really think about it open
calendar click on find it go away click on calendars at the bottom calendars at the bottom
there we go and then i think i saw this like add calendar yeah yep uh nope at holiday calendar at
subscription calendar and family calendar what's just add calendar what's add calendar again
so is it fixed on iCloud can you click the thing that says iCloud
yeah i don't know guys i don't know what to tell you
the calendar can be local to your vice only yeah i pointed that out earlier yeah mail is not just
local yeah yeah yeah um i don't know i i get why i understand what Linus is saying i also get why
it might not work that way um i would like that add a calendar thing that we just did
it it literally shows an account line that's like it's it says account and then there's a great
out text on the side that says iCloud it was like if that just was able to be whatever you wanted
then or it opened a prompt to log into another account yeah sure whatever yeah that's what i
would try to do if i wanted to log into my calendar app i would go to my calendar app
and this is exactly what i tried to do i went into my calendar app stop it i went into my calendar
app i went to calendars i went to add calendar pretty intuitive i went to add calendar pretty
intuitive and i was like and now there's yeah now what which it feels broken almost there's
there's a line that says account and then on the right it's great out and says i calendar and he
can't interact with it at all what's up with that that seems weird is something wrong no set up google
in settings mail then turn on everything then in calendar tap on the word calendar at the bottom
and add it there which is exactly what i've been trying to say so that makes it a global account
if you do it that way well not global account but it it makes it so that your you can access your
google crap will sink yeah see that's wacky i'm sorry but that is you're right i missed something
it actually doesn't change my point at all that these two systems behave very such a blood bath
of it yeah very differently from each other you should do like oh man it might be brutal it might
suck yeah i think it'd be kind of fun if you did a stream like whatever the duration of the video
is after the video launches yeah you start a live stream and then just basically do this
that'd be kind of fun actually it's like real time the ARM actually comments you're pissed about
apple fight me live bro like i don't know if you kind of interesting thank you mackay oh everyone
saying he's wrong is nitpicking the minutiae and missing the entire actual point missing the forest
for the trees as it were you guys like what do you want me to say you guys are right that i didn't
think to go digging into a sub menu of a sub menu of a sub menu instead of just opening the app and
signing in the way that i did in the other one i would hope that's what that's the problem skill
issue to sign into mail i just open the mail app and i sign into mail which will also allow me to
sync my contacts and my calendars and my google stuff that i need for work if i want to sign into
calendar i open calendar and it's a complete dead end handyman saying because on iphone all
settings are expected to be under settings apps that's just apple's approach we don't like it but
it's their way of doing it yeah there's lots of settings that are not what happens when they're
matter tim said does it matter that apple's guide on this explains it well and i found it quick
i think good documentation matters and then he linked it i don't think you should need a guide
for logging into your i think needing a guide inherently means it's not intuitive if we're
using the word intuitive for what it's supposed to mean um yeah so the overly defensive line is
here but um the intuitive using or based on what one feels to be true even without conscious
reasoning so needing to look up a guide just automatically yeah
man anything to do with iOS man is uh it's i don't know it's a feisty it's just it's a really
funny thing because i um i say look i uh i think hot dogs are unintuitive and people go
hamburgers are so much less unintuitive Linus Linus Linus less hamburgers the ingredients
slide around i think they're both unintuitive i think there's problems with both and i think to
i think to i think to make this argument that this is that this is good design is just um like i
don't really i don't really know what to tell you if i can and you say look it's the apple way
that the settings for it are in the are in the apps part of the settings menu okay so is the
account that you're logged into a setting yes or no i think i would generally think sure so then
for the mail app it should be in the settings of the mail app it should not prompt me when i open
it then it might even be useful in my opinion to make it so that uh i think some apps do work that
way maybe not in the apple ecosystem but if it was like we see you're not signed in press this button
to go to the settings and it like opens the settings and like makes a little bit of a display of
like sure but it doesn't do that yeah and that's the problem avon fox says it's not that is that
you say it's trash because it's not for how your brain works is insulting for people to people for
whom it is um when something when when ui or ux is inconsistent that's bad that's measurably
that's measurably bad that's not that's not the goal and because we're used to something
does not mean that it's good and when i say something's bad it's not personal the fact
that you're used to it or you like it it's not personal it's literally my job to point out
things that are unintuitive or that aren't good about technology something that i will never
understand though yeah is and and this is again coming from Android brain because it's the only
thing i've used um my mom always struggled with Android she would find ways to email me text
messages uh wow like that's kind of impressive there is weird like no but she could not send
me a normal text message i would just receive emails that were text messages and like i don't
i've never actually even done that yeah like it's it's weird it's not a normal email it's not
you know she sent an email with text in it no it's a text message in an email right like as an
attachment yeah it's like it was very odd it was years ago but it was very weird and she had lots
of other crazy weird problems with her Android phone and then uh she was working in the movie
industry for a while yeah and they had like standardized on some iOS stuff i don't remember
what it was yeah um so she needed an iphone she got an iphone instantly perfect i remember power
user no issues i remember you telling me about this because to her the whole like like like uh
throwing away an app was just like super intuitive instant yeah no thoughts immediately
worked like the most intuitive thing you could ever imagine yeah and then i try to go do something
on her phone i'm like yeah it's happening i set up my aunt with an iphone years ago because
basically i didn't want to coach her on how to use her phone yeah and it's been very painless it
works so like i had it they got something going on um so people are people are pointing out things
that are just um like i i don't really oh man i don't really i don't really know what to say to
you so zen thokson says mail prompts you because it has nothing to load if you aren't signed in
but okay please my problem was never that mail prompted me to sign in you like that part of
anything that's good yeah my problem was that when i did the same behavior the same user behavior
and i opened my calendar it did not prompt me to log in and had absolutely no way for me to
log in and no breadcrumb trail for me to follow to log in nothing if we agree that the account
you're logged into is a setting and if we agree that apple puts settings under settings apps and
the name of the app then we agree that the mail's account that we log in should be there
only there with no way to link to it from the app itself but that is not the case therefore the mail
app follows a different set of rules from the calendar app guys are we there yet did we get
there nydx i don't know said i think it's hubris to not ever look for help in the modern era
and has good docs and he's talking about the fact that there's a good doc on how to do this
one of the problems that you guys are some of you guys are really struggling with is the word
intuitive if he has to look up a help doc for something it is not intuitive to him flat out
there's no there's no other interpretation of that if he has to look up a help doc for something
it is not intuitive also i did figure it out
i figured out to log into the mail app that's not the problem
oh boy cape says when will you have a video criticizing Android these had many tons
it's it's amazing for years for many years it's amazing the selective the selective perception
that people have you're insulting my my tribe this entire video was dunking on the deplorable
state of a osp yeah that might not have been the best video example to bring up it was two months
ago i i i understand that not everyone agrees with the premise of the video yeah but the premise
of the video was what the premise of the video was you guys aren't wrong that is stock Android it is
stock Android whether you like it or not i don't know how applicable it is because it doesn't apply
to anybody but that was our point yeah our point was that sock androids kind of dead
and we discussed some of the reasons that it's kind of dead for users yeah yes um
let's see let's see uh i'm trying to remember because i'm pretty sure we did um
i'm pretty sure we've done rant style videos on both iOS and Android or have we only done
you know what no we haven't we did um i really wonder if you should somehow i don't know how
you would do this is the video already shot uh partially i wonder if you should somehow get
like a subset of you know those videos that are trending right now ten ways iphones are just better
they put yeah six years ago there you go uh they have like somebody in a chair with a table and
another chair across from it in the middle of a room and then a circle of people around it
was Android is just better all those people in the circle versus one person yeah yeah yeah
that's already on the calendar oh okay i don't know so i i feel like you should like basically get a
subset of like apple fans i can think of one t three pio oh we could definitely find some and
then give them your talking points for the video and then fight their talking points like in the
video because i i i i don't know honestly that probably won't even help anything no it won't
help it won't help anything luke i mean the fact that people don't think i criticize Android
is all that you really need to know about the sort of selection bias of
um the perception of my takes on these things i have been hyper critical of Windows Android iOS
macOS basically like i said my entire job is looking at things and going this is what could
be better about them i also highlight things i really like i just i'm just trying to take
because i i know this obviously this video is going to be a bloodbath so i'm just trying to
figure like how do we how do we how do we pull all the iron out of it and make a sword um how
do we like how do we do something cool with that basically so like there's the the stream that starts
the the total duration of the video after the the video goes live um there's this like i don't know
picking like five apple creators and then having them fight you on it or something
change my mind style i don't know i think that'd be kind of i think that'd be kind of fun yeah
because especially like it could even be genuinely helpful because as long as people come in with
like an understanding that you might end up agreeing to disagree then it's probably just
going to be like a good conversation i don't know separate what is personal opinion in fact
the whole conversation we're having right now is that that seems to be a very difficult thing
like i i'm not going against avon fox here to be clear but that seems to be a very difficult thing
with a lot of topics and this is one of them this is this is definitely one of which is just
baffling to me because so weird at the end of the day if you ripped my Android phone out of my hands
i'd use an iphone yeah like i um there would be things that bother me about it just like there
are things that bother me about my Android phone um tacky the penguin says you're really straining
for a nat which is not an expression i've heard before but i think i kind of like it you're straining
for a nat if your biggest issue with iOS is how you sign into calendars it isn't it's just not
intuitive who said it was and what i and what i said was anyone who tells me that is intuitive
i'm sorry but i i i have to take exception and then i laid out why would you take the biggest
exception with this issue i laid out the only exception you have in very clear like like the
like in very clear mathematical terms why it's not intuitive and how the one app behaves differently
from the other app and if we accept this rule that the account we're signed into is a setting
and settings can only be here and are not linked to from the app then the fact that one behaves one
way and one behaves the other way is not compatible with each other and that is not intuitive and
pretty easy to solve as well actually extremely easy to solve it is it is it is so easy to solve
and is so intuitive to solve in fact some people who opposed my criticism of apple
in the chat today were saying it's so simple you just click add calendar but it wasn't there
yeah why wasn't it there i don't know it seems like something's wrong because like why why would
that line even be there if you can't do anything with it and that's where like my brain feels like
it's broken and maybe this is Android brain i don't know because i i expected i would be able
to click on that and it would list the various system wide accounts that i have and there would
be an account add account option and maybe it brings me out to some other menu and i have to add a
system wide account there's 10 trillion authentication steps and it puts its fingers into
everything in my phone and whatever else but like that's the flow that i would expect i would not
expect a a line that is completely not interactable on a page of inputs that's not something i would
expect like ever to be honest apple was forced to make setting up mail as easy as apple mail great
okay so you're saying then that the fact that they work differently is because apple put
user hostile design not the argument you wanted in their calendar app and left it there because
they were never forced to change it yikes
why are they like this and now they want to change the subject
well you got to go to settings and then there's the change subject app settings which are only
in settings yeah but it's in the settings of the subject app not in the global settings
and it's under a hamburger menu i got another merch message for you here we're gonna be here
luke's birds are gonna get sad Linus i do you want to move on we can keep talking about this if
you want yeah no no no all right cool Linus i need to paint my house it's only 1150 square feet
people tell me rolling looks worse than spraying is it worth buying a sprayer just for a one time
use absolutely nothing be okay get good at rolling it's not that hard basically what it just comes
down to is make sure you apply enough material and then kind of spread it out and level it out
without um pressing too hard and then make sure that you've got a light on nearby because while
it's wet it's really it's kind of has a sheen and it's really easy to see any spots where you've got
too much paint built up and it'll drip so make sure that you go right away um and and kind of
level those out without a ton of paint on the roller before moving on to the next area
cut in the edges first even though it's like tedious and it feels like you're not making any
progress even though you're doing the vast majority of the work you're covering the minority of the
wall and then uh and then do your uh and then do your rolling makes the yeah the remaining a lot
easier yeah use a drop sheet no matter how careful you think you can be use a drop sheet because as
you roll the roller it turns obviously and when you've got paint on it'll flick out little bits of
paint so as long as you have a drop sheet down there it'll grab everything why would you say
using a spray is unintuitive
I well yeah sure I'll tell you paint sprayer operation is often not very intuitive sure
I'm just messing no I'm good I I will I will die on that hill the apple one honestly doesn't
matter to me that much but I will die on the paint sprayer hill domain was like I just tagged me
and said I hate you fair enough oh man okay uh this is a hard end of the show been seeing the hoodie
all week on tech and GameLinked and couldn't wait for it to drop the wife and I are suckers for cozy
clothing Linus what's the next step in foldables that makes it mainstream hi man I don't know
for apple to make one and I don't think they will it's been rumored for a long time they're
clearly looking at the technology they'd be crazy not to be looking at it at the very least but
they obviously have a lot of work to do on making their sign-in process consistent from app to app
so they still haven't figured out how to make the camera do only as one developer so we got to
give them time let them cook yeah currently they're working on the calendar login we'll have to come
back to a foldable compatibility yeah they got they got t9 dialing nailed though nice yeah good job
yeah they did it deserves a promotion then we'll have zero depths I actually I actually love it I
I love t9 dialing it's so great the um the way that apple handles all your different um phone call
accounts so to speak your different voice uh communication methods is amazing here call me
call me on the phone sorry I'm just very tempted to dofo the set of a good one which was uh
uh why are you saying that flat screens are so unintuitive
okay I'm calling okay okay
okay so so check this out uh yeah there's no okay so it comes up like this right
and then if I want to answer then I just you know hit my button or whatever okay call me on teams now
I'll be here for a half hour no no it's cool
you really do okay so this is cool watch this how cool is that the interface is really nice
identical that's genuinely very nice and the best part is if I go into my call log
which was both that's really nice yeah that's intuitive that's very intuitive very intuitive
objectively that's genuinely very cool I actually yeah I am envious of that it's especially nice
uh like for carplay because I don't have to think about what slightly different interface
might come up like when I get a whatsapp call in the car on Android it sucks if they have
it like brings up a little thing swipey things and whatever yeah it's annoying yeah so it's
very very intuitive okay so apple people are you okay now are you good that is genuinely like as
someone who doesn't use iphones that is sick and I wish I had that are you good are you okay
are we are we over the calendar thing probably not and how the settings are not in the same
place and that's objectively actually kind of stupid but but this isn't this is not stupid
this is really good so they are they are this they're something that's not no they're not in
the same place sort of are but they're also sometimes in a different place but not they're
one time in a different place yeah yeah yeah which is except when they aren't in that different
place yeah which is not intuitive yeah but this you know what makes something intuitive
when someone who's never seen it before is like whoa that's really intuitive yeah that was pretty
intuitive wasn't it yeah and oh man not having to like bananas sometimes swipe left and sometimes
swipe out of a circle and sometimes press a circle on Android the call receiving like button
it's just different depending on how someone's calling you it's incredibly stupid we can see
the calendar for the acknowledgement of call history the apple nation has accepted the diplomatic
so yeah i there's lots of things that i actually love about it that are objectively better dude
the dedicated um the dedicated voice input button at the bottom of the screen that's just always
right there whenever you have your keyboard up and you don't have to long press and it does
punctuation automatically which is super cool there's there's tons of stuff that's really good
i've got one my swift key one so i use a third party keyboard right ah i've been using the same
third party keyboard for so long i don't remember what normal is so i use a third party keyboard
and mine puts it way across the screen but with apple regardless of whether you're using a first
party keyboard or a third party keyboard there's a voice input button that is independent of that
and that's under it sure which is really intuitive sure there you go we good you got two things now
yeah you got a bonus you owe the Android nation something is there a next topic no there's no
other topic this is it leave uh i'm sorry that it's not intuitive that there isn't carcina asks
in your experience does i cloud no no no i'm just kidding
they want balance float plate chat wants balance they want a negative thing
i want to try one honestly i've never done it an iphone yeah i tried an ipad and then
immediately threw it out it's gonna say i feel like you'd go insane i would probably
ipad we're not talking about this i love the ipad shut up Linus every time Android
i was gonna say it is the superior tablet only with extreme custom firmware it's not even close
Linus says someone who practices three two one backups are m discs or blue rays viable i bought
some recently to backup archive some important stuff but now i'm wondering if my efforts are
better spent elsewhere um very viable no m disc is totally a different class of storage device
and tape are you familiar with them uh yeah but is he like actively using them uh well you don't
they're just like an archival grade dvd essentially yeah yeah so if you have like uh like legal
documents or something like that i would say out of tape m disc blue ray throw them on m discs
that's that's the way to go for something that you really want to not rot um i would trust that more
than a hard drive in storage that's actually been a big problem for um data recovery companies
is some of those drives are getting so old that even if they're brand new and sitting in storage
they're just like they don't last forever whereas m discs i think are rated for like
thousand years or something like that i don't know that they'd actually last that long but
they're rated for an extremely long time what is tape rated for um well it's more that it's
more physically fragile a disc has no moving parts all right so i i would be personally
a little more comfortable with with m disc um it's also like you can just get like a fireproof
file cabinet and just you could store a functionally unlimited number of m discs in that compared to
like tapes yeah um and and the tapes would store more especially like more modern um more modern
tape formats but if you're in legal documents yeah then it's it's purely archival tiny files
yeah and yeah there's small files anyway and if you're going back to and and having having like
like smaller amounts and just like a ton of them and putting labels on them versus like
how much how much stuff do you have to back up to this one tape before you finally put it in the
archive i'd almost be afraid to like have a pending have enough data pending that i'm gonna
fill up a tape before i can put it away do you kind of get what i mean don't you need special
software for tape as well that remembers where all the data is on the tape itself you need uh
and oh and you need an expensive uh reader and writer whereas m disc can be written on not quite
commodity but slightly more expensive burners i didn't realize actually i yeah i didn't realize
quite how not as long tape lasted as i thought yeah i know m disc sick i had a longer i don't use it
though
cool i just put it in an s3 bucket and let it be amazon's problem to delete all your data is it
is it is it is it not intuitive it's not very intuitive i just put everything on iCloud i mean
if it lasts a long time they should call it l disc yeah but then then when i think it's like
Linus disc yeah i might not be very intuitive no i'm a small vintage tech youtuber with 1000 subs
and you guys are a big influence they could call it long disc
yeah i mean that might be a little unintuitive though because if the association is also Linus
then people could get a false impression i mean you don't know well i guess i kind of know
all right then avon fox what about a second disc a disc a disc
it's okay disc moderately acceptable disc
uh i'm okay all right
hi yes Dan sorry hi i'm a small vintage youtuber uh with about a thousand subs and you guys are a
big influence to me would you ever take a small creator and have your team punch up a vid to see
how much pro editing can drive views interesting it's more than just editing i mean it's writing
hosting editing topic selection thumbnail there's Ludwig did a really interesting pieces experiment
a while ago actually where um he tried to see how successful he could be as a new youtuber using none
of his contacts not using his own likeness his own face or anything like that uh basically trying
to pick a topic using i think it was like someone else's voice and doing a like image slash video
with a voice uh with voice over thing i don't know i don't know if i would find this uh Ludwig
someone already find the link holy crikey dude yeah that was fast thanks nerdy our
nerd oh okay um Ludwig i made a secret youtube channel to prove it's not like this was wildly
successful um this video is genuinely super interesting he talks about uh topic selection
he talked about how how he was able to promote it so like he wrote this video the title is really
good how a door made this man a million dollars like i would click on that i want to click it now
it's about something that he knows so it's about another streamer named miss kiff i don't think
he actually used like technically insider knowledge that someone else couldn't know i don't remember
it's i watched this a long time ago so he kind of artificially through his own prior knowledge
created a very meticulously researched video that someone else could have made yeah i think
that was it i'm pretty sure um and then he he shows about like promoting it stuff too so creating
the channel he goes through all those details yeah making a thumbnail blah blah blah blah blah
and then at some point time i don't remember where it is yeah he he like promotes it because
he chose making a video about a streamer who does reaction videos so that he could link it
in their stream and they would likely watch it because like if you if we if we if someone
linked us a video like hey someone made a video i don't know it's it's likely i don't think it's
likely not for us not for us but a lot of other people were not that edgy and especially not
right now um but a lot of streamers would so he links it to them and then they actually do watch
it on stream at some point um that gets it a bunch of traction people liked the video he tells them
to go subscribe whatever and it starts the channel off and it's it's like it's really interesting
because he genuinely goes through all the steps um yeah this is this is like miss kiff watching the
video i guess yeah that's him watching it i don't remember if they actually show the like metrics
of the channel what's the fair use situation of ludwig using miss kiff's reaction video of ludwig's
video that he made is it is it intuitive uh yeah i don't i don't remember like how well it did
but i mean first time video and we're talking about views from different
areas in the in the thousands like that's pretty cool yeah that's very cool so i don't know you
can do it i don't necessarily think it's like just particularly having good editing or just having
particularly good something else you need to bring everything together um for it to be intuitive
yeah i mean i think that i think it would i think it could be
i think it could be an interesting experiment but it would have to be we'd have to be all in
like you'd basically we basically have to like like bring a production crew to you
you'd have to kind of tell us okay here's five concepts that i have um we'd kind of have to
massage them and go okay this is your best one this is probably your strongest angle for it
oh one and a half million views okay i mean it's riding on the back of this video which has six
point five million views hard to evaluate now yeah um so we'd have to come all the way out there
we'd probably have to kind of use our process right you'd tell us kind of everything you know
and then i would lay out all the like the intro the story beats the conclusion we'd figure out how
to package it can we make a youtuber you would yeah you would sit there and you would read the you
would read the the script but i don't know if uh if you're on Floatplane you might have seen this
before um but there's uh there's a behind the scenes of me working with uh ryan shroud and
tom peterson who both at the time read Intel i think shroud's moved on i think tap's still there
um but basically there's a behind the scenes of me coaching them on their part in our video on
Intel arc uh where effectively i just say okay repeat exactly after me
and what's really special about this product is and what's really special about this product is
so essentially like like like showing them the exact intonation that they need in order to make
the delivery a little bit more dynamic and engaging so i would probably have to do that
unless you're amazing at it already which you might be at i'm not you didn't even say
exactly what your channel was so i'm not sure what it is and then from there we would have to
kind of show you okay well what does it look like to put together all the guidance for the visuals
that are going to support this then we'd edit it then we'd edit it um and at that point i don't
know it's tough like um we haven't really answered your question like how much pro editing drives it
because there's so much more to the editing process than just the edit so i don't know what to tell you
yeah Linus what advice would you give a young canadian business owner i'm from ontario run
to LTT Store and get these good deals um um
it's been a long week uh be prepared the whole world scar let alone let alone canada is in
has been you know in not great economics yeah space for a while now um this is a new thing
everyone talks about the impact on consumers of inflation because most people are consumers
rather than business owners but businesses are absolutely impacted by it as well yeah and and
on both ends right because on the one side you've got your suppliers or your partners
demanding more because of inflation and then on the other side you've got your your labor force
demanding more because of the impact of inflation on them so in a way you're kind of caught in a
squeeze if you increase the price of your product some people might not be able to afford it anymore
despite everything else because they might not be getting raises from their companies to keep up
even if you're giving your people um raises so you're you're you might have less less um revenue
and hazaifa asks uh Linus and luke trudeau or pierre yes no we have a de facto two-party system luke
no i know but yes wasn't it so cool when he was like i'm gonna get rid of first past the post
he was like it's dawn dude i'm getting rid of it bro it's obviously really stupid and you
all voted me in for this reason so i'm definitely gonna do it i am uh and then i didn't i know that
there's been plenty of other things hell yeah that captain jt has um has screwed up demotum
but the one that i am actually by far by far the most angry about is that first pass the post
yeah it enrages me as well like election reform is something that um you know i would think that
canadians and americans uh the need for election reform i would think is something that canadians
and americans should probably uh all be pretty aligned on at the citizen level um and the fact
that they that he promised he was gonna get that done and then was like psych
not cool jt not cool bruh not cool bruh there's like a way there was a our own province
for the americans that's the same thing as a state well it's not yeah that's fair yeah uh anyways
it's like a state except it's like it's actually part of canada instead of like wanting to be
its own thing completely yeah yeah but except for alberta and kebek they also want to do their own
thing except for a lot of them anyways i'm not sure how stokes the prairies are on the whole
like commonwealth either but you know whatever yeah bc kind of hides on the other side of the
rockies and pretends we're part of washington yeah yeah we are us washington state and oregon
state as far as i can tell like like if the whole if the whole rest of the world went to crap
i think i we could probably get you con in there like i i think if the whole rest of the world
went to crap we could all probably kind of come together and be like pacific north westland
yeah yeah we like it wet um uh i was gonna say yeah we had a we had a provincial election here
recently and i i was looking into it because i was like i want to be an informed voter and i
i found the like the platforms page for the three parties he sends this to me in the middle of the
night he's like oh my god what are you talking about the like it really felt like genuinely
someone in grade four was like um this would be uh i don't know they're like ask chat gpt like how
should i make a bad political campaign and they were like i don't know do this and then they actually
published it like it's stunning that people put this on paper and i mean that for both of the main
two parties think about it when you were in grade 11 grade 12 okay and you like put together a project
on something and you like did some research or whatever and you did a presentation at the front
of the class seems like it went further than those that as far as i can tell a lot of people
never really progressed past that in terms of like their research and presentation
and data compilation skills and and and you you would think you would think of all i mean you
know these are people in like a position of you know where it's really important for them to be able
to do that's been a wild realization like as an adult and it's it still gets me it still gets me
often where i'm like oh like this person's coming from from i don't know this this company or this
this area of expertise or whatever educational background and you start conversing with them
and you're like oh okay like this is gonna be great i'm gonna like i'm gonna learn so much it's
gonna be so so useful or interesting or whatever the scenario that you're in is and then you start
actually working with them and you're like oh okay you're just like a dude well everyone's just a
dude yeah like that's the thing right all right like we i don't know it's funny we we we leave
you know school where we look around at all our peers and we're like everyone's just a dude
and then we go into the real world and we're like oh you're a librarian and you're a dentist and
you're a bus driver and you're this and you're that and it's like no no no no you're all just
dudes i think the hope you're doing those things i think the hope is that when you're in high school
you're you're like progressing so much year to year that when you leave high school i think
i think there's probably still some amount of assumption that like you're really gonna be
progressing a lot so like if someone worked in a field for 20 years you're gonna expect like
this unobtainium feeling level of of expertise i don't know that does exist
sometimes it's that oh it totally does for sure
luke i don't know what was more enlightening for me when i had children and realized that
kids are just tiny adults yep or yeah sorry i keep
or when the inverse dawned on me
just a bunch of really big kids walking around
and to be clear to be clear
present party included i don't know some kind of paragon of maturity let's be real here oh yeah
dude i still i still feel like i have honestly a lot of the state the same wants and desires and
inverse not converse that i did when i was 15 14 honestly like
you know the approach might be different did we crystallize like way younger than i think
people are comfortable thinking about yeah like going to my 20 year high school reunion i'm like
yeah did you go yeah why not i haven't gone anywhere yeah i don't know i
take don't be too cool to go to a reunion it's not even that i just yeah not what not totally is
i've yeah most of the people that i've talked to about it it basically boiled down to like
i'm too cool to care about this no i said i i'm still in contact with honestly a lot of people
from my high school sure so like i don't know we'll like go have a campfire with like 20 of them
this is my reunion but that's not the reunion yeah that's not the point of it
i'm not saying i'm too cool for the other one i just don't care but it's not because i'm too cool
i objectively don't think i'm cool i just i'll let you guys unpack all of that i'm not gonna go
yeah yep i'm not interested yeah charge nuclei says it's because everyone else is less cool
deep blue v says sure luke sure no i just i don't care fox says which makes you cool i think if
you're not in contact with a bunch of people from your high school it could be good also in the age
of facebook i think that's another big change because there there are people from my high
school that i'm not actively in contact with that every once in a blue moon i'm like i wonder what
they're up to and then i go click oh and then i'm done i didn't need more than that i don't know
look i i only stayed for about 15 minutes yeah because well because uh it was one of my kid's
birthday party that day okay and so i was like well i i'd like to go i'll go show my face say hi
and you know see what see if there's anyone that i recognize um some of them i didn't
i like i had a pretty big class and i was a loser so like i was actually not cool you're a pretty
big class you didn't go to like a i thought you went to like a a farm school basically well yeah
well are you commuting it well i had to drive a fair bit to get there it was like 20 minute drive
how big was your great your your my well when i say pretty big class i mean for me to remember
all the names and faces like our our school was about i want to say about 1500 or something like
that so my class was a few hundred people i think yeah i think you're at a bigger school but part of
the problem for me is that um i was in the like i was i was kind of in my like streamlined pod
um so i was taking like challenge courses and ap courses so i saw a lot of the same like 25 people
and i saw very little of the rest of the 90s percent of the class oh interesting i saw i saw a lot of
those folks in like i took metal art and jewelry um we had a really small shop believe it or not
so like we only had one ap course if i remember correctly there's ap english oh yeah okay like
there wasn't like so you you were often like i was quite mixed amongst everybody we only for ap i
think we only had english as well so challenge was just our internal like uh name for like a slightly
more challenging version of what is essentially the same curriculum never even heard whereas ap is
its own like separate entity that like organizes things oh Dan is saying we're over time oh we're
over time yeah um you okay look i am still good but not for like a long time okay cool yeah i just
needed to check in yeah no that's good let me just wrap up pretty soon yeah yeah i don't know i'm not
like against it i just i just don't care it's got facebook spoken like it sounds like a very cool
answer i met somebody oh my goodness oh my you know i met somebody you know it's like whatever man like
yeah we're all just kind of going through life i'm just not that into it i could go to the hyso
reunion i could do it but like i don't know or i could do something way more important and sexy
could hang out with my beautiful partner and my my birds and my cool yeah my birds are pretty
cool okay cool friend i i met somebody at the gym that uh i went to something heavy went to
elementary and middle school with and that was cool but they don't do like elementary and middle
school reunions like those people i actually don't have contact with anymore any of them so you would
go because i was pre facebook you would go to a grade seven reunion yeah actually interesting
because i don't remember almost any of their names i don't have any contact with them anymore
because that was pre facebook and stuff you know what's funny is i actually had the exact same
thought like two weekends ago i was back in ladner and i was at sharky's bar and grill with my my
grandparents the kids great grandparents and the more i think of it this is more true and the the
waitress bore a striking resemblance to someone that i went to school with the age wasn't right
like they were younger yeah but i was like holy crap i wonder if they're a relative of of this
girl i went to school with um i didn't want to ask because people don't interact in person anymore
yeah and it'd be like a weird thing to ask someone speaking is weird hey do you have a relative
do you have a relative named whatever like you look like someone i know it it almost seems like
a pickup line you know oh yeah really well you never know people people apparently just like
don't approach each other in person anymore so so anything sounds like a pickup line i would think
so fair enough and i was just like it was unnecessary i don't actually care that much so
i wasn't gonna like say anything weird uh aragoth says yeah that's a fair concern in my opinion
make as advised says i accidentally picked up a girl that way okay so there you go
i'm apparently not completely crazy i do think it would have been fine i was there with my wife
and my kids and my grandparents like yeah that kind of diffuses a lot of that clearly i'm not
making a move but never underestimate how scummy a dude could be so and modern relationships sometimes
exactly who knows exactly who knows who those kids are actually born from yeah yep um
what about second wife says mind still anyway uh the point is it it made me think about someone
that i hadn't thought about in yeah a bazillion years and i was like dude how cool would that be
because this came on the heels of my aunt telling me because she ran into the mom of like
my elementary school bff who was like oh yeah he's like moving to north vancouver and like has a kid
and stuff and i was like it's crazy to think about what yeah um yeah like i don't know i i think that
would be cool like i've left i left my elementary school my first elementary school after grade two
so like being able to be like hey remember me no i have i why i i uh i'm pretty cool
i don't even want to like tell this story i mean i think you're committed now so let's go cool guy
i think it was grade one i kissed some girl wow that's pretty cool like who the heck was that
you kiss girls you don't even remember them no and this guy says no i'm not cool damn i don't
know i've i've held so many hands i don't even know i don't even know how many hands i've held
if i remember correctly i've had so many cups of tea if i remember correctly one of us was like
hurt or something i pulled on so many pigtails my god if i remember correctly what i got so many
cooties i'm just gonna go for it anyways and uh whichever one actually like initiated it did
so because like their parents would do that when they were hurt to try to calm them down
so it wasn't it wasn't we're in grade like one it was what you thought oh he's he's been emotionally
intelligent and caring since wow my look at this guy god you're cool god you're so cool i can't
handle you guys uh damn my my paradox says uh yeah definitely friends from grade school i'd love
to see again but high school no interest in talking to all the any of them now i have a
hypothesis here and that is not that the people you went to grade school with are like better in
some way but rather that they were at a stage in their life where they hadn't turned into complete
f***ing pigtails yet and so that makes the the elementary school reunion interesting though i see
okay because you didn't get to see that process so it's like what what happened in the gap
how did you get why how do you look like this basically yeah i do you go from like that kid
that was fun to play soccer with to like i don't know who knows add facials to just says luke's
just a stand-up guy stop oh man yeah okay uh what's going on more we got i got the more
okay we got some more we got some cool people sending merge messages yes
how many is there left you wish they were let's let's try to let's try to power through these
okay i wish there was marino underwear available they're wonderful do you know why some websites
don't let you open certain links in a new i hate that oh my god i know as a habitual control clicker
it's infuriating when i can't i hate it so much also middle clicking does the same thing and it's
my favorite i hate it so much i hate it so much okay so watch this watch this okay so if i'm in
the dashboard and i want to switch accounts and i right click and i right click to oh my god i left
clicked okay it doesn't matter the point is if i want to switch accounts and i right click i want
to open a new tab where is my opening a new tab why isn't it there it's not intuitive
i love this man
not me just making sure you can do the yes that works okay cool all right good so vindicated
is there any pricing available for the commuter backpack i'm hoping $150 or less so i can just
justify upgrading my upgrading my wife upgrading to my upgrading so i can justify upgrading to my
wife from the $50 backgrab i'm still using from high school this is the least into an
emergency message i've ever read to my wife upgrading from the $15 backpack where are you
storing things in your wife that's quite the upgrade though i can't do this
not a very intuitive upgrading from my wife upgrading my wife from the $50 backpack i'm
still using from high school okay i hurt my hand it's not too bad it's not too bad it's not too
bad um uh we're not announcing the pricing yet i i we now said a little early i think
the backpack the commuter bag well we got a we got a we got a wait list we got an email newsletter
yeah yeah yeah i don't know we got a drum up we ordered a few oh based on the newsletter or
just preemptively just based based just based just based not on anything just based like on a
like on a f***ing turkey based yeah yeah get that meat yeah get that meat gravy
okay we need to get out of here this is what happens if we go past 830
next Wednesday keep going hey dill was using my LTT stubby to fix my dishwasher before when
chose uh how well can i expect it to hold up to water i don't know you tell me it should be
fine the bits might rust a little bit because they're like iron and stuff yeah yeah shaft's okay
yeah yeah just based it based shaft
all right keep going okay all right sorry sorry the last one i got for you hey
with your focus on transparency will there be any more how LTT makes money videos i know
were you used against you but uh can you look past that i really hope that people were
not here during the start of the show chat understood it apparently but yeah um
i think someone internally pitched a little while ago it might have been adam
i think it was adam i'm not sure don't quote don't quote me on that i might be wrong about that someone pitched it internally a little while ago i think we are due for one um i don't know guys
like it's uh it's one of those things where someone in football players i wouldn't the old video
still basically apply no i mean and that's the thing right and that that's why that
transparency is not just once right like if you if you have a a window in into the front of your
house right and you open it for a second and then you close it that's not transparency that's a glimpse
you know uh transparency is a process it's a mindset it's ongoing and um and so i think
in the interest of transparency yeah um i'd like to do another one but after sort of
experiencing the way that people take what i say in those kinds of behind the scenes looks and
extrapolate or um or twist um what i'm saying to turn it into something that i didn't say
i don't know it it definitely it definitely makes me like that one time that you said that the iphone
was an unintuitive mess yeah and had no redeeming qualities yes like the time i said that um it's
really challenging right because i i can't reasonably expect people every individual person
out there to be familiar with everything i've ever said right and so you'll see like bad faith
statements like Linus always criticizes the iphone he never criticizes Android so mean um
and i think this is one of those content pieces for us that um have a super high potential for
that for people to see just this and and not see the bigger picture or to see it and not believe it
and um and i'm putting myself in a position where they just wouldn't have been thinking about it
if i didn't bring it up i think that's probably the biggest danger is i talk about like you know
i talk about the sponsorship so i talk about integrations or i talk about merch or i talk
about Floatplane or you know all the other ways that um that Linus media group makes money and
you've got you know the people on the one side that are going that that couldn't be all of it
they're what are they hiding right and then you've got the um and then you've got the people that are
like oh my god i can't believe that they make so much off of like sponsorships and merch that they
can pay like you know 100 people um i i didn't you know i didn't think about that before i thought
that you know Linus was just my friend or whatever it's like bro why is it a conversation that i'm
even opening up at this point like during wenches you know two and a half three hours into wancho
or whatever we are right now what whatever yeah we're three and a half hours into wancho it's
like yeah fine we can kind of talk about this stuff because realistically the only people
are going to make that make it past me insulting their precious iOS are going to be people who
i think can at least based Android users let's go i think are people who can um see the bigger
picture of what we're trying to say and see that you know for all of our flaws we're trying and
sort of take things um take things that we say and take the things that we do um
with a positive with a set of positive assumptions rather than a set of negative assumptions whereas
like a mainline channel video it's not really like that so we'll see i think that uh right now
this is not a good time of year to go bug the accounting department to create a bunch of extra
like presentation slides for us they they've got to do a lot of new good but new goalposts
things to work on yeah but maybe next year we'll see okay uh can cano asks timeline for backpack
carabiners you should have them already if you don't contact support
and i'll see you again next week same bad time same bad channel bye
dude it was so hard not to talk about this
oh you can't lean over here i know it's fine
i know right