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What you're seeing right now is five. Count them. Five instances of Cyberpunk 2077 running on one system.

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Not that impressive. But what if I told you that in the background,

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we are also running Cinebench and encoding our screen cap using OBS

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and running this new fangled Bonsai buddy? Holy shit.

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This thing is absolutely incredible. And the craziest part is we're still getting

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playable frame rates in all five of our Cyberpunk instances.

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This is the power of AMD's Threadripper Pro 9995WX.

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It has 96 CPU cores that can run it up to 5.4 gigahertz.

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It has 384 megabytes of level three cache.

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And with the click of a button, it can boost its default 350 watt power draw

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to over 800 watts. That is well beyond the limits

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of even this water cooling solution. That's why we brought this freshly repaired water chiller

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to explore the limits of the most ridiculous desktop CPU on the planet.

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And to see just how far we can push past them. The CPU is at 95 degrees.

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And it's pulling at 1,900 watts. This is terrifying.

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But first I had to push past this segue to our sponsor.

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Let's go.

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Before we can break the performance limits of modern computing,

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we've got to know exactly where they are. So let's back up to just a few months ago

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when we looked at AMD's top of the line, Threadripper non-pro 9980X.

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This 64 core monster, it turns out,

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was just the appetizer. This one is quite literally like putting one

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and a half of these into the same motherboard socket.

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Or maybe a slightly different motherboard socket if you want to get the most of it.

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More on that later. First, let's take a look at the carrier vessel

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that Falcon Northwest sent over for us to check it out in.

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This is the Falcon Northwest Talon. And oh, my Tabernacle.

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Is it ever gorgeous? They did not have to do it up

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in this sick custom UV printed case inspired by our UV reactive LAN collection,

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lttstore.com, but the MadLads did it anyway. And that is the least crazy thing about this system.

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We're going to talk a lot about the Threadripper Pro 9995WX

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and it's ludicrous 96 cores. But first, let's take a moment

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to admire the rest of this build. Let's get this side panel. Oh, wow.

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I can't find anything solid enough to get it to make a metal sound.

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But, oh, wow, that really hurt actually.

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That is a thick piece of aluminum. Damn. Wow, that cable management.

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This is a 1600 watt power supply. And if you really look in there,

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there's lots of cables plugged into it. They just do an incredible job of hiding them away.

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And I built a test bench using the same platform. It looked like one of those sentinel things

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from the matrix. The other side is no less gorgeous.

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128 gigs of DDR5-6400 ECC memory

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and has tripled in value since Falkin sent us this system.

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And another big difference compared to your system at home is these are running in a quad channel configuration

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rather than dual channel, which doubles their bandwidth. And if that sounded crazy, wait till you see us

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running the Threadripper Pro in eight channel. Wait, why aren't we doing that now?

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It's because while the ASUS ProWS TRX50 Sage Wi-Fi

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motherboard in here can work with both Threadripper

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and Threadripper Pro, its feature set is more targeting regular Threadripper.

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If you want to get the most out of a Threadripper Pro, you need a WRX90 motherboard.

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It has the same physical socket, but a different chip set.

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More on that later. First, we've got three four terabyte

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Kingston Fury Renegade PCIe Gen 5 SSDs in RAID 0.

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I don't think Falkin would ever really recommend that. They were just showing off on this system.

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And then for our GPU, we've got something that I've actually never seen before.

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This is the RTX Pro 6000. Pretty much it's a wolf in business suit clothing.

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It's a 5090, but instead of having 32 gigs of VRAM,

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it has 96 gigabytes of VRAM.

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It also has about 10% more CUDA cores, runs faster,

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and all that memory is ECC. Kind of want to do a full review of this thing.

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This kind of stuff NVIDIA just does not send out for evaluation because if you need it,

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you have a team of people to evaluate hardware for you and you pay for your evals

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until you reach an even bigger scale. Finally, for cooling, it uses an AIO liquid cooler

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from Silverstone with a 280 millimeter radiator and a custom CPU block that is specifically designed

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for thread whipper processors. And at the default power profile,

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it does great as we're about to see, but I think we're gonna need more.

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Let's fire this thing up. Starting with Blender Monster,

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where we got nearly 25% reduction in render times.

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I mean, guys, look at this. This is not running on the GPU.

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That's insane. 52 and a half seconds. That is over 10 seconds faster

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than the top of the line thread whipper for non-pro. Look at this thing rip up threads like a pro.

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Or does it? Send a bench and actually a lot of our benchmark numbers

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look dangerously close to the same results we got

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with the 9980X. You know, the $5,000 processor.

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The one for non-professionals. Well, as it turns out, that's kind of by design.

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See, AMD allows you to put this bad boy

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in a peasant consumer TRX 50 motherboard,

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but they don't really want you to. This is the ASUS ProWSWRX90E Sage SE.

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And it's the big brother to the motherboard that we used in our 9980X review.

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This is possibly the most beautiful thing I've ever seen.

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In fairness to me, it's been almost 10 years since my last child was born. So I can hardly remember how beautiful that was.

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The first thing you might notice about this board is that flanking the CPU socket are not four,

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but eight memory slots, each running its own channel.

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That gives it up to four times the theoretical bandwidth

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of a desktop dual channel motherboard. The next thing you might notice

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is that it has a grand total of seven PCIe by 16 slots.

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But unlike your typical gaming motherboard, where those are gonna be running at often lower speeds

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or lower generations of PCIe, every single one of these is gen five

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and the full 16 lanes. So you could literally put single slot water blocks

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on seven GPUs in here. And I assume you could,

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because if you can afford this motherboard, you can afford seven GPUs too.

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Lucky you. Oh man. The next thing I was gonna show you guys

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was all the M.2 slots, but I just cut my finger open on the IO,

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so I guess we'll move over there. Oh, buddy.

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One lonely USB two is accompanied by a whopping

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dual 10 gig networking ports with a gigabit management port.

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And look at that. Convenient little clear CMOS button right on the back.

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I'm gonna need that bandaid now. Thank you. Damn it.

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And if you thought we were done with crazy IO, check this out.

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Every one of these M.2 slots is also at gen five

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and because they just had extra lanes and no idea what to do with them,

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we've got a couple of slim SAS ports that are also gen four by four each.

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Next to the 24 pin motherboard power connector, you will find two additional PCIe eight pin connectors.

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Those are to provide extra power in case you actually load this thing up with PCIe cards.

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Then at the top, things get even more nuts because there's not one, not two, not three,

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but four power plugs for the CPU.

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Two normal CPU EPS connectors and the other two PCIe eight pin again.

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All for this bad boy. But it's only 350 Watts.

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Why could it possibly need all of that? Because once we unlock, it should be a lot more than 350 Watts.

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That's why. How much is that worth these days? When I wrote the script, it was 6,000.

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When we started shooting, it was 10,000 and now it's $17,000 of RAM.

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One terabyte, DDR5, ECC,

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5600 mega transfer per second. The crazy part is this isn't even cutting edge speed.

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This is like last gen speed. So we're not even quite getting the most out of the CPU,

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but when we asked someone to send us over, even a loner of modern RAM to put in it, they laughed.

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Yeah. All right, here we go. If I don't do it right, it'll bite me again.

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Do you want more goop? Yeah, I'll take a little bit more goop. No keyboard detected.

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Now please press F1 to continue. You American megatrends.

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Here we go, boys. I like this. If we go into Ryzen Master and we hit apply on the overclock, 350 watts

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to 2,000 watt power limit. That would not work with that piddly triple radiator.

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We're not even gonna try running it at stock. I mean, we ran it at stock in the other one.

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Yeah. But did you guys get numbers for how it runs at stock?

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Just having eight channel memory instead of quad channel? Yes, and you'll see massive improvements

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in memory bound benchmarks, things like 7-Zip

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or even like Y Cruncher if you have to load in a bunch of stuff.

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Right. Because you have that nearly double the bandwidth.

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Even with the slower higher latency ramen here, there's still a massive increase in throughput

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just due to eight channels. But we want more.

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2,000 watts, there. Oh my God, that's insane.

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And then it flips once it gets past 1,000, it goes, nope.

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It just errored out. Also 38.82 seconds.

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Did we hit 90 degrees on a water cooler? The water's heating up that fast.

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Yeah. The pump speed is the same,

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which means that from one run to the next, the load is the same and the pump speed is the same.

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So if it's running three, four degrees hotter, that means the water is three, four degrees hotter,

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which kind of makes sense because this is not that much water. Okay, how about Cinebench?

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We're idling at 40 now. That's how much hotter our water is.

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It's gone up like seven degrees since we've been sitting here. We're also idling at 122 watts on this CPU,

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which to be clear is the TDP of a 9800X3D.

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What score are we trying to beat here? Running stock. Okay.

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So that's 7,387 in particular. I feel like we're gonna beat that.

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What would our Threadripper non-pro hit?

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Threadripper non-pro hits 6,671.

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Okay, I can already tell that this is insane.

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How fast those boxes are finishing. This is crazy.

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This usually takes like maybe 10 minutes on like a consumer CPU to finish this one image.

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This is gonna finish in less than a minute. Does AMD ever get tired of winning?

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8727, just shy of 9,000 points.

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That clears it by a ton. That's almost like a quarter better.

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It's more than 20% better over 350 watts. You're paying a lot for the power to do that.

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You can afford it. Have we told them how much the CPU costs yet?

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13K-ish. Okay, our top one is 94 degrees.

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Okay, what frequency root? You've gotta be kidding me. It's running at 4.8 gigahertz across the board.

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Oh, Cinebench isn't even that heavy of a load, evidently. Just shy of 800 watts.

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Do you think it could do more? Oh, with better cooling.

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Yeah, I feel like we've gotta be capped here. Let's do 7-Zip, because that's gonna benefit

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from both the increased power to the CPU and the increased RAM.

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128 out of 192. Am I reading this right?

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11 and a half gigabytes per second.

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Yeah, that's the decompression rate. Let's go into 13. It's kind of fluctuating up, so it could be higher.

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By the time it finishes the test, it settles in at about 11 and a half each time.

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Compare that to the quad channel memory. We're more than double.

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More than double. I knew file decompression was memory limited.

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But that much? Yeah. Oh my God.

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And what about the compression? How are we doing there? 600 megabytes a second?

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600? 600, yeah. Compared to the 9980X, almost actually 50% faster.

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So we're getting the full benefit of those cores. Like, full benefit.

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How did they build this? AMD, TSMC tour.

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Maybe talk to your buds, get it arranged. We'd love to do it.

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How are we doing this with only 128 threads though?

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It's not even using all of the CPU cores. It's just all the extra memory bandwidth, I guess.

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The memory bandwidth and the extra clock speeds, I guess. We got room to breathe, assuming we got room to cool.

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All right, let's do it. Let's hook up the chiller. Go Bruce, chill us. It's been a while.

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It's set to five degrees Celsius, which is probably a little low

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if we're trying to avoid condensation. We haven't insulated the board in any way.

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So why don't we start around 14? Oh, we already overshot it, brilliant.

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Good job, Bruce. Bruce, is that on?

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Yeah. Okay, because we're gonna need to start putting some heat into this thing.

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You need to calm down. Okay, let's just do Cinebench for now. I don't know if we're gonna get any more speed out of it.

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Not without actually changing the CPU multiplier, I don't think.

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Yeah. And every single core is pinned at 4.8 gigahertz.

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And now that our coolant temperature is under control,

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we're peaking at 51 degrees.

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Isn't it crazy to imagine that you have 500 amps

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and 800 watts going through those tiny little pins on the back of the CPU?

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Bring back the blender. Oh, wait, did we get a score? 83.11, not as good.

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You know, it was hurting our scores, though, that I forgot, because I had got higher scores without it.

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We were OBS, the screen cap was hurting our scores a little bit.

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We're using the GPU for the screen we're putting over, right? Yeah.

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It does distract your CPU a little bit. 3825.

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So we are getting full performance in blender. Yeah. And we peaked at 1130 watts.

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Oh, what was our peak temps there? 74 was our hottest.

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Let's go for some more clock speed. Let's turn off OBS so we don't have anything running

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in the background. To the BIOS copter. Ah, the BIOS.

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Tweakers Paradise, they used to call it. They still call it that, apparently.

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They do. It's still there. That's great.

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Now look, a platform like this is gonna have all kinds of arcane voltages and settings

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that you can play around with to get the absolute most out of them.

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But today, we're not getting into any of that. So we're gonna be laser focused on just a handful

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almost exactly 50, just a little bit over,

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and we are going to disable any VRM throttling

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and peak current control. We're gonna give this thing as much current

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as it could possibly ask for. Oh, and we're gonna change the thermal limit.

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Ah, yes. Usually at 90, we're gonna bump it up to 110.

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You hooked up a second power supply. Wait, no.

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No, you didn't. This was just in case we wanted to game on it. I don't think the CPU could handle the slight voltage

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difference if they were both hooked up to two different power supplies. No, but we could hook the second one up to the GPU.

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That's the plan. Oh, yeah. I'm ready.

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I already jumped over to 20 degrees. Oh, God. 300, 1,000.

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We're still at 1,100 watts. I thought we were gonna get more power.

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Yeah, well, Cinebench isn't really that hard to run, apparently.

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82, 42.

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But that's not as fast as the other one we did. If you want something that's gonna hit it way harder

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and might show a better improvement, we could probably see that in Blender because that was the other one

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that benefited the most from PBO. We're only gonna get a benefit here

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on loads that can't take advantage of a few cores boosting up even higher.

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Exactly. So the way we've tuned it now is really only useful

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for multi-threaded workloads, which I mean, I thought Cinebench was one,

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but I guess you just don't have enough threads for me, Cinebench. Okay, let's see how Blender does.

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Our time to be for Blender is 39. All right, are you ready?

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Yeah. The CPU is at 95 degrees.

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And it's pulling at 1,900 watts. This is terrifying.

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Did you say we were in a 1,600 watt power supply? Yeah.

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I mean, we're well beyond the measurable range for CPU package power. That just doesn't work.

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So the only prescribed limit right now in the BIOS is 2,000 watts.

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35.88. 10% would be about four seconds.

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That's about a 10% improvement. If we pull up something more aggressive,

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like Prime95 though, we will find that we're thermally constrained.

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Will we? Yes. Or maybe even power constrained. Will we?

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Ah, there it goes. Yeah, yeah, just fully rebooted.

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Oh yeah, oh yeah, that makes sense. I'm amazed that at no point did our power supply trip.

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And our breaker for that matter. If we're gonna wanna run a game,

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it might be in our best interest to use a second power supply for that guy. Okay, cool.

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Brilliant. So we could fire up Cyberpunk, but I think the game everyone wants to know about

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is City Skylines 2. Can the threadripper 99.95 WX

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finally tame this hot pile of city?

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500 watts in City Skylines 2?

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How does this 95 degrees Celsius? We're using 3% of our memory.

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But somehow 26% of our CPU.

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And it's still chugging. This isn't even that big of a city.

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Have they still not fixed this thing? No, this game, it's just impossible to run

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because it's so broken at a core level. Like me, that it'll just never really work properly.

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Like this is not even high graphic settings. We're running a 1080p.

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This is the most powerful computer. It just doesn't matter when the game is the bottleneck.

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Cyberpunk, theoretically, right? If you're not familiar with this card,

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it's possible that NVIDIA's professional drivers, they just ain't that good at gaming.

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So, let's see. Ooh, that ray traced lighting though, boys.

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That looks great. That does look great.

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90 FPS. Oh god!

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Officer, officer, he jumped right in front of my car.

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You're the police, you don't have to worry. That was not my fault. It's 100% legal.

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Just run him over to make sure he can't testify against you.

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In conclusion, this thing is a next level beast. So powerful that we struggled to find benchmarks

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that could even use all of its cores while still being relatable to consumers in any way.

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But spending more on our computer doesn't necessarily make for a smoother experience.

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We had issues with motherboards, with the RAM controller, with PBO performance optimization.

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See, the core problem here is that both HDDT or high-end desktop and workstation

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are relatively small niches of hardcore compute folks.

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Folks who are gonna be expected to go and chase support from the system integrator or the VAR

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who provided their equipment. So yeah, it's a bummer that enthusiasts

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can't buy these Threadripper Pro chips from official sources.

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But even if they could, it'd be hard to recommend them to anyone

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who isn't making copious amounts of money with their PC.

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So it's time for the uncomfortable conversation

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if you missed it earlier. This chip goes for somewhere around $12,000.

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If you can find a source for it, which AMD will not give you officially.

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You add a terabyte of RAM for another 10 grand.

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Plus, I mean, who knows what's going on with that? And I don't know, a couple of pro NVIDIA GPUs

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for 10 Gs plus a pop. And all of a sudden, a WRX automobile

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starts to look more practical than a WRX computer.

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But for the folks who need this kind of performance,

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like you're a university or an engineering lab and you need to run simulations,

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sure, you could book access to the supercomputer or you could have 25 meetings

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to get a server in the university rack or you could just have one meeting,

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get this thick boy in your lab and let her rip.

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Now it's time for a thick segue to our sponsor.

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If you guys enjoyed this video, why not check out the time we looked at the slightly more attainable Threadripper Non-Pro 9980X.

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Totally got 64 cores though, so I don't even know if it'll excite you.
