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It's not a long distance driver,

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but the main issues that I've seen people run into

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It's mostly been around hard drives. So I remember there was this one guy

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a Plex NAS running in his semi and he would just chew through hard drives.

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So as long as you're not, oh, you know what? Oh, we can go, oh, this is great.

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Oh, these straps, dude. Elijah, it's got the double straps,

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like a weightlifting belt. Yes, because I know what that is.

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You look like you would. I don't weight lift.

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I mean, I don't know, you look like you might have weight lifted at some point.

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I mean, I did when I did gymnastics, I guess. Okay, so that- But I didn't use a belt.

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Elijah, do you know what a weightlifting belt is? No, I just did it.

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Okay, all right, fine. Well, whatever.

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It has like the one strap and then the other strap,

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like double-sided velcro style. It keeps your organs from going spreeze.

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Yeah, so you can really strap down the cables back here,

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which I really like. That's awesome. Keep the computer's organs from going spreeze.

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Well, I mean, wouldn't you want to? I don't know.

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My computer's in the server rack. I don't care where its organs go. That's fair enough.

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How long is it's in the server rack? Anyway, so this-

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The server rack is like a weightlifting belt. Oh!

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I, okay. You're doing good, Linus. Thank you.

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Okay, so that can go a little something like that. Oh, dude, this is awesome.

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They've got little clips here to hold all of my stoops. Man, you're really, you're loving this case.

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I am loving this case. I'm trying to just make sure we're under the expectation

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of is it because it's that good of a case, or is it in comparison?

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And we actually get to compare three more. I know.

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I mean, I think that's a good question.

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I think it's a fair question. Overall, it's very thoughtful.

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And while some of these features might be relatively normal,

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I don't get to build in every case anymore these days.

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The implementation in this case is really good.

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Everything is just really well fought out, and I only had that one little situation

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where there was a small stumbling block. And other than that,

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it's been practically effortless for me to build

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a pretty fine looking computer.

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Like, okay, yeah, we could, you know, we could tuck this a little like that,

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tuck that a little like that. But overall, man, this came together so easily.

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I just got to plug in my RGB connector here, and then I'm good to go.

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And then we'll have to make sure we rate it properly. Oh, where did I, where did I leave off

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on that merge message? I feel like I wasn't quite done answering that. What was the question again?

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Something about cringe segues. You did say that. No, no, there was something else we were talking about.

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Help me out, chat.

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Yeah, there was, but it was... I was done with that merge message. I think we were moved on to something else.

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Yeah. Can I start reading another one?

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I can't remember. I don't know. We can do another one. Oh, the socks and sandals,

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and it was the cringiest, memorable segue. Building a semi in...

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Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, the semi one. Right.

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So hard drives, big problem. Anything that's susceptible to damage from vibration,

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big problem. Modern system, I really wouldn't expect any issues.

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I would still, I would probably, like anything on a big rig,

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I would probably check on it once in a while and make sure that it hasn't vibrated itself loose.

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You know, I'd probably put some blue thread locker

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on all of your screws and stuff like that. You know, like I would just take the appropriate precautions,

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but other than that, no, yeah, go for it. I think that's a great idea.

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I've seen some pretty sick,

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like top of the cab, like sleep area gaming setups

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over the years, very cool. There's a religious WAN Show watcher

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who always shows off his sick gaming rig in his rig.

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So cool. A gaming rig, rig.

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Write that down, write that down. Yo, dawg, I heard you like rigs, so I put a rig in your rig.

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What would have been a great option for RG rig reboot? So you can rig while you rig.

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The rig, rig, reboot? The rig, rig, reboot, what, the... The wrong rig, rig, reboot.

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Okay, not the finest cable management of all time,

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but I suspect good enough that most people probably wouldn't care

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to put any more work into it. And because you've got those nice straps

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to keep everything nice and, you know, strapped down,

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boom, just pop it on like that and you're GGG.

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I love this case. I'm ready to score it.

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How did this go on? Don't worry, I got you. I got you, brother.

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So first, this one goes on. Oh. There's your problem.

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There's your problem right there. Okay. Oh, yeah, there, bud.

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Oh, yeah, bud. Oh, yeah, bud. Here you go, bud.

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I'm not your buddy, guy. I'm not your friend, buddy.

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I broke it. The amount of times you just randomly quote South Park in this office is too many times.

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We're adults. Oh, oh, is there no-

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I already peeled it. I already peeled it. Oh, now I just went and put fingerprints on it.

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Dang it, Linus. Okay. Alrighty.

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Price. It was 90 US dollars. I like.

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My wife. That is a fine looking build.

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Very fine, very build. Here, should we, oh, we never fired the other one up.

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No, no. What are we doing? Are we crazy? I don't think it was RGB.

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Oh, no, no. I thought I had some RGB in it, didn't it?

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Oh, balls. Right. There we go. Okay, okay.

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Boop. Ooh.

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Uh-oh. The CPU cooler's not. Oh, where's my RGB yet?

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Where's my RGB yet? I'm pretty sure I plugged it in. Oh, yeah, I see it.

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Unless I missed. I mean, it is a really horrible connector.

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Sometimes there can be gaps and you can accidentally plug all the pins

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into just like gaps in the housing around them.

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Oh yeah, no, there goes the cooler and there goes the front. There goes the front.

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Boom, look at that. That looks pretty good. That's a pretty looking little build. Okay, let's rate it.

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All right, price out of 10. Yes. It is a 90 dollar case.

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It is more expensive than the last one.

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Oh yeah. I can double check to confirm.

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I don't know if it's our most expensive one though.

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It is not our most expensive one.

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I'm going to go with another,

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oh man, it's really good. I'm going to go with an eight.

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On price. I'm going to go with eight on price. So the one that was $40 gets lower.

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But isn't price kind of inherently value? I guess we did, yeah, we can make the argument

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that it's value and I think you would say you- No, I think we were doing it the other way.

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No, you're right. Okay. Okay, so 90 dollar price, I mean, yeah,

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I'll give it a five. It's more expensive, yeah, right? That's the most that I would recommend spending on a case.

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And you feel like you got more than enough out of it. If you're not, you kind of don't care.

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Like if $20 means anything to you,

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don't be spending more than a hundred bucks on a case.

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So in terms of the value. Yeah, I'll give it a, I'll give it a,

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I'll give it a, but it's so, whoa, the value is so good.

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Six, six. Final answer. I'm putting it down.

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Okay, six. With features we gave an eight.

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Building experience. Ah, 10. You could not shut up, so yeah.

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I said I would take off one for not being able to put in that USB thing.

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Nine and a half. I also agree that 10 minus one is nine and a half.

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Nine and a half. All right. Okay. Cable management out of five.

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Four and a half, four.

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They could have had more grommets, four. Okay. Yeah.

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Does it get any bonuses? I feel like the fans being one cable.

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I like these Infinity Mirror included RGB fans.

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Like. GPU sag rack in. Of course there would charge us $90 for just these two fans.

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Okay, not quite, but still. I mean, you get what I'm talking about here, right?

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Easy compatibility for up to a triple radiator.

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Like with tons of room, like you could actually definitely have a radiator there.

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Definitely have a dual in the front.

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Three bonuses. Three bonus I, okay? Yeah.

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All right. Okay. Let me do my math. You're not gonna let me see it.

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Seven plus six is 13. Plus eight is 21.

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Plus nine point five is 30.5.

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That's pretty good. Yeah. 30.5 out of 35.

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This was the Landcool 207 from Lee and Lee.

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The most popular case at Micro Center.

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Yes. Now that's an interesting element to this

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that I don't think I had considered. Micro Center does most of their business retail.

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That would make sense then why it has such a low amount of reviews.

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Yes. I feel like. But it would also make sense

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how it would be able to differentiate itself from the other cases in an environment

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where people can touch it and feel it

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and appreciate why this is 90 bucks. Cause on paper, you should be able to get an ATX case

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for $20 less. And if you're just shopping online and you're just looking through a spec sheet,

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then there might not be any reason in your mind to spend any extra on something like this.

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But this just, like it feels,

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it feels really good for 90 bucks. I really, I really like this case. And you had a good building experience for sure.

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Like a 9.5 is pretty dang great. That was a great building experience.

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All right. Too bad, let's move on to the next one. Let's move on.

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All right. Well, you have three more to pick from. Mm.

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Which one do you want to pick? Corsair, Fractal, or Phanteks.

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I also got a question here. Are any of them back to front compatible?

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The first one was. The first one was, which was the Cooler Master,

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MasterBox Q300L. This one didn't look like it.

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It looked like it, sorry, we should say. This one didn't appear to be. Yeah.

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So no promises. I kind of want to see what my friends at Corsair

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have been up to. Cool. I haven't checked out the Frame 4000.

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Oh my gosh, this is so heavy.

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Fun fact, Fractal, speaking of old friends, was the first case brand that I was the product manager for.

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Ooh, wait, were they? No, it might have been Antek.

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Well, the first one that's still kicking butt. No, actually Antek's doing pretty good.

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All right, here it is. Ah, coming to you from Corsair,

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this is the top selling case at Best Buy USA

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for a price of $109.99. That's right, my friends,

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you will be paying the Corsair tax if you want to get your hands on the Frame 4000.

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We have the black finish with airflow mesh panel variant of this case.

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That's something that I feel like, ooh, Corsair has really, I don't want to say struggled with

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over the years, but certainly come up against is having so many variants of their products

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that I have a hard time fully understanding their lineup.

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Like I remember that when they started.

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Corsair had the 800D,

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and if you didn't like the D, too bad.

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That was it, that was all they had. Then they had, I believe it was the six, ouch, zapped.

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I believe it was the 600T that came next.

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And after that, it's all kind of a blur because the product lineup just got very complicated.

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Ow, dang it. I swear, this is gonna stop zapping me sometime soon.

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I realized we haven't really talked about packing materials. So far, they have all been pretty unexceptional.

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Yeah. I haven't seen anyone show up to play

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with like a more flexible foam.

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It's all this kind of one impact,

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and then it's not really gonna take anything more after that, which means that while it's fine

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to ship a case in this, it's not fine to build a system,

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like if you're a system integrator, put it back into this packing material

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and then ship that to a customer.

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All right, let's take a look. This is like a really common mistake that so many SIs do.

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Right out of the gate, I like the width. I can tell that Corsair in their typical fashion

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has put a lot of thought into how this system will be built in, and the answer is,

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with a lot of cable management space at the back.

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Corsair really, it seems like,

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approaches their case design from a marketing standpoint,

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right from the get-go. With the 800D, there was very clearly a way

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that you were intended to build in it, so that everyone's 800D build,

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well, might look kinda samey,

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but would look really good, and really good in a consistent way.

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And so I'm already seeing that there's certain ways

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that Corsair has just kind of defined what their contribution to the case category is,

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and stuck with it. This has to be the loosest mesh

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that I have ever encountered. If they were going for maximum airflow here,

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they definitely got it. It looks really trippy in person.

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I would have to go all the way to, here, check this out. I have to go all the way almost profile

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before I can't see through this anymore. Like that is, wow, you can see a whole Elijah through there.

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Thanks, Elijah. That's terrific.

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Good job, Corsair. This is also not a super dense dust filter,

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which, okay, you might not like in the sense

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that it might let a little bit of tiny dust particles through to your system,

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but if I had to guess, I'd say that Corsair has probably determined

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that most of what the typical gamer gets stuck in their dust filters, cat hair, guilty.

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And this would have no problem catching that, so it won't kill you to dust every once in a while,

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and this will, I mean, this is clearly a very airflow forward design.

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This will give you some kind of benefit in terms of airflow.

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All right, let's put these aside for now. What do we got? We got three fans in the front, pre-installed,

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all 120 mil, and curiously, Corsair determined,

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and I, again, I'm making a bit of an assumption here,

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but Corsair determined that it was cheaper

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to provide a 140 millimeter width adapter

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on each of these fans than to have two separate rails,

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one for 140 millimeter, and one for 120 millimeter width.

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Actually, no, that can't be cheaper. No, that would have to be more expensive.

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It's gotta be an aesthetics thing. So it's gotta, or airflow.

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Oh, sure, yeah. Because if you had a 140 millimeter fan here, if you had two 140 millimeter fans mounted to these,

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then they would have that 120 millimeter rail sitting in the way, whereas now,

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whether you have 120s or 140s, they are as clear as they can be

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to draw air through the front of the case. Cool. Okay.

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Already, some thoughtful design choices that we did not see on the Lee and Lee.

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Very cool. Very cool, very nice, is nice.

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Only the three included fans and no RGB. And no exhaust as well.

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Corsair wants you to pay for the RGB.

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I mean, you were joking about how their fans are expensive, so.

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That was no joke. Sorry, sir.

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When I joke, you'll be able to tell. And it will not be about Corsair's RGB being expensive.

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Another really open mesh on the top.

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This is a very airflow, I don't wanna say airflow only,

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but it's certainly an airflow first design. Oh, this is cool.

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This is cool. All right, they've got this little slider up here.

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I like, I like. So you undo the Phillips head.

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There's a Phillips and there's a Torx. So you undo the Phillips head to loosen it.

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And then you go ahead and you slide this rail between the 120 and 140 millimeter mounting positions,

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depending on what kind of fans you wanna put up here. This also keeps a 120 millimeter rail

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out of the way of a 140 millimeter fan.

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Corsair didn't include any of the aforementioned fans.

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So it's just gonna be empty in our build today, but hey, if you could afford, you know, $400 in fans

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to fill this with Corsair RGB fans, then they would be, your view of them would be unobstructed.

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That's probably what it is. I was just gonna say, it's aesthetics.

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Just the view of the fan? Yes, cause you paid $40 for them,

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you better be able to see them. They're $40? They can, they have some of them.

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I think it's like 30, 36 or something like that the last time I looked for some of their relation.

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I also just noticed that there's like, is this the 120 or 140 adapter or something?

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Hold on, what is this? What is this doing? Is this gonna, hello buddy?

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How you doing there? How you doing there, pal?

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I don't know, how are you? Oh, what?

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, I feel free. Do whatever you guys gotta do.

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Okay, well, we've got the side panel off without bending anything. I'm not quite sure how it happened though.

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Neat. Wow.

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Wow, is that ever a lot of room for cable management, my friends.

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I have that much depth for cable management

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over here behind where the front intake fans are.

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That's wild. Also, question for you, Elijah.

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Yes. Yeah, this, oh, you know, I have the back panel.

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Is that just taped on there? Yeah, that's, well, you know what, that's not, I'm okay with it,

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because this is magnetic. Oh, okay, okay. So this is just to keep it in place for shipping.

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Nope, I'm okay with it. I'm okay with it. I thought it was holding it, so. I'll give them a pass for that.

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What is this? What, what is what? This is a computer case.

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Thank you. What is this? Well, it doesn't have a manual.

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You have to use it through your QR. Okay. So thank you.

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The other side of the case. Sometimes you mount fillings, tractions, actual.

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I'm, we're cooking, we're cooking, Dan. We're cooking.

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That is a side fan mounting bracket.

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Uh-huh. Ooh, I see.

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Oh, cool. Okay, I was gonna get there.

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I was gonna get there eventually. So instead of having a cable management cover shroud thing.

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Mm, you could have fans. Boom.

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You could put all the fans. Only fans, you might say.

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Boom, just like that. So you can go from not an O11 clone

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to O11 clone in less than 30 seconds.

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Actual genius. Okay.

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Well, we don't have any fans because we couldn't afford them. So we're gonna take this.

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We paid 110 for the case, so.

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But hey, if we could afford $400 in fans,

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we would have this bracket to put them on. How many fans are you missing?

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What else you got? What else in here is there's front panels? Ooh, oh, I do like this.

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Wait, no, I don't. Oh, that's weird. That's the opposite of what I would have expected.

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Okay, so they've got an adapter to go from

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if your case has just the block style. Oh, because this case does.

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Oh, this is great. Okay, so you can plug in your block style adapter

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that's included with the case and it has a breakout to all the individual ones

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if you have a motherboard that uses a non-standard pinout. Brilliant.

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Okay, I like it. I've got one of these.

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You also have this. Ah, yes, a magnetic this. I'm getting to that.

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That is called a side panel blank out insert.

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Oh, this is a mini GPU anti-sag mount.

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Cool. All right. Yeah.

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No, no, no, yeah, that's good. Oh, no, no, I get this one, I get this one. So if you have bad cable management in the bottom here.

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Oh, oh, I, oh God. Instead of having a bit of like a window situation.

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Oh, I see. You can just blank it out. Okay, that's kind of cool then.

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We'll have to figure out what this one's for, but we'll get to that later.

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Okay. All right, you know what?

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So far I like. So okay. Oh, I thought this one had the same power supply thing,

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but no, it's power supplies in the back there. For $20 more, I'm going to need to find

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some more thoughtful little additions. I think at first glance, comparing both at first glance,

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I would still stick with the land cool, but we got to wait and see. Let's wait and see.

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Let's wait and see. Maybe the build experience in this will be so life changing for us that we will say,

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you'd be crazy not to spend the extra 20 bucks. Considering how much you were raving over the last one though,

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I need to hear you rave $20 more.

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Does seem like a tall bar. I will say this, one screw to remove this.

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Very nice. Pretty nice. And this, boy, does this ever give us a lot of room

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to get at things and build. This might win for ease of build.

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This pops off like this. Are you sure? You gotta unscrew it first.

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But that's, oh, is that one holding? There you go.

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Got it. Like, as far as stripping cases down to the,

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as far as stripping cases down to the skeleton goes, Andrew Dan's summoning you.

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Like, dude, the case is almost as see-through

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as that front mesh. Like once you've got all the pieces removed from it,

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I think this is gonna make for a really, really easy

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building experience. Oh yeah. Okay, where's the motherboard at? There's another one.

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Do we want to get in the habit of maybe just mounting the coolers to these before we start?

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Oh, do we owe Valkyrie? I mean, we can keep talking about it.

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Yeah, no, no. Why don't we talk about their AIO? Do you want to grab it? Oh, sure.

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Yeah. While I install it. While you install this one, we can grab the AIO. Cool, perfect.

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This one. This one's good. Ugh.

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All right. So our sponsor for the stream today is Valkyrie.

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And I'm gonna get to the thing. Yeah, there we go.

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Cool. And they're featuring a couple of their coolers.

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The surge SL125, which is the air cooler that we've been

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using because after we built a bunch of PCs during that

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charity stream with water coolers, I told the team never, never again AIOs for live streams.

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They take so long and there's nothing to talk about.

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So yeah, we're using all the air coolers today, but we did tell Valkyrie who sponsored the stream

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that we would feature their AIO in some way. So this is their V-Lite AIO or rather their V-Lite AIOs.

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They're available in a variety of configurations, either in 240 mil or 360 mil configs,

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and either in black or white. This is obviously the 360 millimeter white.

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Do you want to hold that up for the camera? That's pretty cool. It features a patented high speed pump

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and copper cold plate. Includes new high speed fans that are designed specifically

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for use on radiators for liquid cooling. They have a distinctive square pump with an ARGB LED

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lighting solution in both the pump and in the fan rotors.

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And they have the, like a mecha aesthetic.

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Oh, that is kind of cool. Actually, I should show you one of their boxes

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because it was, oh, that was a good one, Dan.

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And they have a mecha aesthetic for a unique style.

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The magnetic cover rotates in 90 degree increments.

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Look at that. It rotates for an always upright installation orientation

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and the pump spins it up to 2,800 RPM

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and it's backed by a five year international warranty. Pretty sick.

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What did you want to show the people? This box for one of their coolers.

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It like is so over the top and extra. It feels like a GPU and it has an animate girl.

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Can you be less predictable, please?

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Sorry for supporting women.

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Ah, I just dropped it all. Oh no.

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You know, it hasn't come up nearly as much lately

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but I remember in some of his earlier on camera appearances.

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Go ahead, keep talking. The comment section would be full of like,

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how exactly did this guy get a job? And I would have to kind of defend him and go, no, no, no.

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But like he has redeeming qualities, I promise.

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He's technically my fault. This is the first time I felt like that. Actually, yes, if you go butterfly effect.

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Yeah, I hired him for logistics. This is the first time I felt like that

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in a very long time. That I kind of like, I have to defend you.

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Always on streams.

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He has lots of redeeming qualities. You could name some anytime.

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The problem is, is you don't name them. I really like your hair.

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That's not a reason to like have me working here though.

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We were saying earlier it covers the dent in his head from his fall.

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From what Ariana pushed me, yeah. Okay, okay, that is not a thing.

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Nobody pushed him. Her wall still has a scuff on it from my jeans

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when I fell down. For those of you who are new to the channel,

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Elijah fell down the stairs and concussed himself

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at Ariana's AMD Ultimate Tech upgrade.

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Some would say it launched my career.

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Not at an upward trajectory.

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Oh, I'm sorry, Andrew, am I supposed to be getting this for you? Yeah, we're going, okay, Dan,

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do you want to hit us with a merge message? Yeah, absolutely, we still got loads to get through.

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Let's see what we've got. Hello Linus, in case the Xbox series consoles

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were to get steam, do you think a significant amount

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of people would return to Xbox and make it more competitive?

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That's a really good question. That is a really good question.

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I'm having a really hard time figuring out what exactly Microsoft's path forward is here

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because they very clearly telegraphed

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that when it comes to handheld PCs,

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they are pretty much going the traditional Windows OS route at this point

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with partnered hardware devices and trimming the fad on Windows

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to provide a more seamless and energy efficient

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handheld gaming experience. One of the elephants in the room at that event

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when they showed off the ROG Xbox,

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AllyX or whatever the thing is called, the partner product with ASUS,

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is hey, you guys say this is an Xbox and I can play my Xbox games,

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but not every Xbox game, and like that's super cool,

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for the ones that include the PC license with the cost of the Xbox license,

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but not every Xbox game does, particularly third party ones.

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Now it's clear where Microsoft's ambitions are

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that they do want, did you take away my adapter cable?

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Also, I only need two of these.

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Before I took away too much. It's clear where Microsoft's ambitions lie

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that they want every game for Xbox

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to be licensed for PC as well and vice versa,

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and they want this future where every screen is an Xbox to happen,

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but it's equally clear that it hasn't happened yet,

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and there's gonna be kind of a painful

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awkward adolescence for this concept.

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So coming back to your question of,

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what was the question again? About if Steam came to Xbox devices.

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So if Steam comes to Xbox, I don't really see how that aligns with Microsoft's vision.

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It's clear that Microsoft wants every device

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to be an Xbox, but the only reason for Microsoft to care

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about devices being Xboxes is so that they can take their cut on the Xbox store, right?

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Otherwise, why wouldn't they just want the Xbox to be a PC with all of the various marketplaces,

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Epic Games Store, Steam, good old games, et cetera, et cetera?

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So with that dynamic in mind,

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I do not see Steam coming to the Xbox anytime soon,

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but with that said, Microsoft's vision has gotten

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a little bit muddy here because for the first time,

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they've gone and put Xbox branding on what is essentially a PC with Windows

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that is slightly tuned for better battery life on handheld.

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And they have made it explicitly clear, not quite explicitly clear,

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but they have made it implicitly clear, nice,

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LTTstore.com, let's go.

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They've made it implicitly clear that Steam will be supported on the Xbox Ally X edition.

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Console, supposedly console. Have they said if there's any sort of working together

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on adjusting the margins and the cuts from a Steam sale?

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No. Okay, so I was curious if that would be the reason why then. No, they didn't even explicitly acknowledge

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that Steam would be available on the device. They just said leading PC game places.

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And I was like, okay, like, Steam, right?

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And they're like, okay.

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They wouldn't say Steam. Sure, yeah. But they would say, well,

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what do you think is the leading PC game marketplace?

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And we'd go, okay, Steam. And they'd be like, well, we said leading PC game

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marketplaces, right? And we're like, okay, so Steam, right? And they're like, well, what do you think is a leading game?

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Like, I get it. I get it. PR people got a PR. So the answer is Steam,

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but you'll never hear Microsoft say it directly. So with that kageness in mind,

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I think ever is a big timeframe, you know?

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I can't try to predict what will happen ever.

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But what I can say is I don't think that's happening anytime soon.

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I don't think you're gonna see Steam on the Xbox because otherwise what reason exists

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for the Xbox to be a thing? They already sell them at like a loss, right?

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Do you have our accessories? Like our screws and stuff?

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Oh, I put it back in the box.

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Like I said, like I said, half a brain cell today.

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Thanks, Elijah. I'm trying, but... Dan, you got another message?

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Oh yeah, absolutely. Hey, Linus and Elijah.

433
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:17,520
Oh, I'm sorry, baggy. We got a baggy, which at $90 in the last one,

434
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:23,800
we got a little sorting thing. If they're labeled, I'll excuse the lack of...

435
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,920
No. They're not labeled. I saw this labeled and I thought that was it for a second.

436
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:30,920
No, they're not labeled. They are individually sorted by type, though.

437
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:34,560
That's something. That's something. Not resealable. No.

438
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:36,680
Meh. Okay, hit me, Dan.

439
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:40,920
Hey, Linus and Elijah, my favorite.

440
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:45,880
Why don't you cover enbaric or retoy to devices anymore?

441
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:50,360
I get that emulation devices are a sore subject, but it feels like a missing opportunity.

442
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:55,080
Love you, Elijah. I wouldn't say that it's a sore subject.

443
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:59,140
I think for me, with all these emulation devices

444
00:32:59,180 --> 00:33:03,820
that are out there right now, what new is there to talk about sometimes?

445
00:33:03,820 --> 00:33:06,940
Like even when we just bought the Game Stick,

446
00:33:06,940 --> 00:33:10,140
I think it was called for the buying every tech ad,

447
00:33:10,140 --> 00:33:15,640
it was kind of just a case of like, I'm buying this HDMI plug-in that has ROMs installed.

448
00:33:16,660 --> 00:33:22,180
I could just download an emulator, right? I don't know, I feel like there hasn't been anything new.

449
00:33:22,180 --> 00:33:26,460
And whenever we're determining whether to make a video about something or not,

450
00:33:26,460 --> 00:33:30,700
sometimes it's not really up to us in a sense. The answer is, okay,

451
00:33:30,700 --> 00:33:33,060
well, is there enough material for a video here?

452
00:33:35,180 --> 00:33:38,420
Some stuff like isn't even really necessarily long enough for a short.

453
00:33:38,420 --> 00:33:43,860
I do think that anything experiential, where there's an ergonomic element to it,

454
00:33:43,860 --> 00:33:47,620
like a human interface element to it, like a handheld console,

455
00:33:49,100 --> 00:33:52,340
yeah, there's probably a video's worth there.

456
00:33:52,340 --> 00:33:55,540
But at that point, it's a pretty significant investment

457
00:33:55,540 --> 00:33:58,540
that you're asking someone to make in learning about the product.

458
00:33:58,540 --> 00:34:02,540
And the proliferation of these handheld devices

459
00:34:02,540 --> 00:34:05,580
has led to us, I think generally just,

460
00:34:06,780 --> 00:34:09,860
has led to kind of a saturation. Yeah, I agree.

461
00:34:09,860 --> 00:34:14,640
Where when they were novel, I think you'd get not only people

462
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:19,540
who are interested in a handheld gaming device at all, and the people who are interested in that particular one,

463
00:34:19,540 --> 00:34:23,460
but you'd get people, you'd just get kind of like looky-loos that are flying by going like,

464
00:34:23,460 --> 00:34:26,980
oh, whoa, that's kind of cool. Handheld PC, wow, that's kind of neat.

465
00:34:27,100 --> 00:34:31,100
Oh, is that like an Android device? It's like just for emulation?

466
00:34:31,100 --> 00:34:35,700
Wow, that's neat, I've never seen that before. But now it's kind of become a bit more

467
00:34:35,700 --> 00:34:41,100
of a mature product category. And so I think you're basically limiting your audience

468
00:34:41,100 --> 00:34:44,300
to people who are legit interested

469
00:34:44,300 --> 00:34:48,900
in buying that particular model. And at the end of the day,

470
00:34:48,900 --> 00:34:52,380
we've got to, we can only make a limited number of videos.

471
00:34:52,380 --> 00:34:56,640
And there's no shortage of ideas. So we've got to try to whittle it down

472
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:58,840
to the ones that we think are going to.

473
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:04,000
Be the best video we can make, essentially. Yeah, and there's different measures of best video.

474
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:07,160
Sometimes best video is about doing what's right.

475
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:10,860
I think a great example of that was the one that we uploaded yesterday.

476
00:35:10,860 --> 00:35:15,400
We had no guarantee whatsoever that that video was going to perform in any way.

477
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:18,840
But when we heard about what was going on with HouseFresh,

478
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:23,840
we just felt like we were at sort of a tipping point

479
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:28,640
in the industry where if we didn't say or do something

480
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:33,640
and the situation with brands suing reviewers

481
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:38,760
for their honest testing could spiral out of control

482
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:44,040
and threaten the entire consumer information pipeline.

483
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:51,480
Like we're sitting there going, okay, well, we make this video or the game changes

484
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:56,280
in a way that is not for the better. This is the hill to die on.

485
00:35:56,280 --> 00:36:01,240
This is the point where we have to make a stand. Obviously, can I have the screws for this?

486
00:36:01,240 --> 00:36:07,080
Oh, sorry. Obviously, it's not always an existential threat

487
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:12,360
that prompts us to make a video. Be it for us or be it for one of our peers in the industry,

488
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:15,780
like when NVIDIA with threatening hardware unboxed way back when.

489
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:20,400
Sometimes it comes down to what helps us

490
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:21,960
continue to support the team.

491
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:28,160
Pool robots, anyone? Do you like pool robots, Elijah?

492
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:34,040
You know, I've made one of them. I made a video about it. Honestly, I thought you did a great job.

493
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:39,160
I thought it was pretty interesting. I think it's still a funny video. It just didn't get a ton of views.

494
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:42,360
Well, it didn't help that half of the video was blurred.

495
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:47,600
And that's not Elijah's fault. Let's make that. I would like to make that abundantly clear.

496
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:52,040
That is not Elijah's fault. And I promise you it was discussed as well.

497
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:55,560
Lots of conversations happened about it, so. But hey.

498
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:59,840
And then other times, it's because we are trying to make

499
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:02,920
whatever gets the most views, whatever delights our viewers.

500
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:06,440
So usually it's some combination of the three.

501
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:09,760
I'm a little confused right now. What's up?

502
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:14,600
There's a couple of thumb screws that are like pre-attach emulated here

503
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:18,680
that appear to be to mount power supply.

504
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:23,200
I noticed that when you first unboxed it. So if you wanted to just not bother

505
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:28,080
with these not thumb screw ones, you could just put two screws in your power supply

506
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:29,640
and call it a day.

507
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:35,960
That was a new note.

508
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:42,080
I'm thinking, I'm having a think. Quick and easy install?

509
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:45,320
I like quick and easy. I do like that.

510
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:48,880
Power supplies are heavy though. It's at the bottom.

511
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:52,120
Yeah. You're hitting all types of notes.

512
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:56,320
Ideally, yes. Sure. Then I pick up my computer, I'm going to a LAN.

513
00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:01,080
Well, that's your fault. Yeah. You're holding it wrong.

514
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:08,000
But my only anchor points are here. And with some very long, very heavy power supplies.

515
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:12,400
That could be an issue. There could be some leverage. It's probably fine.

516
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:16,720
It's probably fine. I would certainly never ship a system like this.

517
00:38:16,720 --> 00:38:22,760
Even just in the back of my car, driving across a couple of states or whatever.

518
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:24,960
You know what?

519
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:28,240
I'll allow it.

520
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:35,920
Man, going back to the traditional orientation for the power supply now, I'm just like...

521
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:39,120
I know. The other one was so nice to plug those cables in, right?

522
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:44,800
Two Corsairs credit. They have managed to create a pretty much unprecedented

523
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:50,640
amount of space here for plugging in these cables. Like this is my best case scenario

524
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:55,200
for being able to plug in cables traditionally. They've even got mesh here that I can totally see through

525
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:59,360
so that I can see what I'm doing. It's just that, man, after I experienced

526
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:04,000
the one from Lee and Lee, I'm spoiled.

527
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:07,800
I'm officially spoiled. You heard it here first. Spoiled brat.

528
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:12,400
We all knew that already. Go ahead, call me spoiled brat. Spoiled brat. That's weird.

529
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:16,640
Okay, Mr. Portia. What? Who did you?

530
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:18,760
No, I just... Linus is not brat.

531
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:24,040
Let's have a brat show. Okay, now hold on a second. I think we've talked about this on Wanshow.

532
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:26,840
I forget what brat is. Not you.

533
00:39:29,240 --> 00:39:32,680
It was just like, it was the summer album last year. Like, brat.

534
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:37,160
That was a year ago? Yeah. Last summer. Lord.

535
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:38,160
Charlie, whatever.

536
00:39:41,240 --> 00:39:45,840
Angels? Boop, boop, boop.

537
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:49,440
Oh, that's James Bond. You see what I mean? Not brat.

538
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:52,680
You are like a giant, like... Empty vault?

539
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:58,200
Yes. No, that's not what I was gonna say. I was gonna say like cultural reference crock pot.

540
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:03,200
Like you just, you don't know where things are from

541
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:07,720
and then very occasionally you'll like pull out a reference

542
00:40:07,720 --> 00:40:11,080
that I'm like, where's that from? You'll be like family guy.

543
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:12,440
And I'll be like, no.

544
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:20,560
Family guy was making a reference. And then every once in a while he's like,

545
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:25,800
no, I've seen E.T. I was like, oh, like, you've seen like no movies.

546
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:30,160
Why E.T. Yeah, why E.T. My grandma had it on VHS

547
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:33,680
and they decided to give me nightmares. So they were like, watch E.T.

548
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:35,320
I did not sleep well that night.

549
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:40,620
Deep breaths, Linus. E.T. was pretty scary.

550
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:46,200
The scariest part for me was like near the end when he was like very sick

551
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:51,320
and he was like looking super pale and he's like, I was like, nightmare fuel.

552
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:53,000
I was out. I was out fast.

553
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaking of out fast, we got these cables out of the way really fast.

554
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:02,600
The King of Segways, dude. Thank you. Thank you.

555
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:05,700
Appreciate that. Even though we write most of them. Look at that.

556
00:41:05,700 --> 00:41:12,860
Sorry, continue. You know very well that I often change the Segway.

557
00:41:12,860 --> 00:41:16,820
I never make it better. No, you always make it worse.

558
00:41:16,820 --> 00:41:20,280
We'll have like a natural Segway that like makes sense. And we're like, that's cool.

559
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:23,940
And then you'll start changing the intro completely. So when you get to my Segway,

560
00:41:23,940 --> 00:41:29,100
you're like, this doesn't make sense now. I'm like, yeah, because you changed it. I don't question why it doesn't make sense.

561
00:41:29,100 --> 00:41:32,180
I know why. And sometimes it does make sense.

562
00:41:32,180 --> 00:41:35,540
And I change it to be worse just for fun. Like he'll have like a really nice Segway.

563
00:41:35,540 --> 00:41:38,780
And he'll be like, we should just put like Beep Boop Segway sponsor.

564
00:41:39,980 --> 00:41:43,300
Yeah, in the PureWare video yesterday,

565
00:41:43,300 --> 00:41:48,500
we had a nice Segway written and you were just on set. We're like, I'm going to go fight this Segway.

566
00:41:48,500 --> 00:41:52,460
And I'm like, that's stupid, but okay. Like I guess we'll throw it in the video.

567
00:41:53,460 --> 00:41:57,460
You also did something, something to Segway. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, something, something.

568
00:41:57,460 --> 00:42:01,020
You get a little tired and it's just like, eh, Segway. Bye.

569
00:42:01,020 --> 00:42:05,300
Sponsored here. There is one, I forget which video it is where we're talking and you just like turn to camera

570
00:42:05,300 --> 00:42:08,980
and go Segway and it just cuts like immediately. And it's like, okay.

571
00:42:08,980 --> 00:42:12,820
This is so good. You know what you're doing, I'll tell you that.

572
00:42:12,820 --> 00:42:18,420
I can almost fit my whole head through here to like see the 24 pin while I plug it in.

573
00:42:20,020 --> 00:42:24,780
You also just do it from the front. You don't always need to go in the back.

574
00:42:24,780 --> 00:42:26,100
But I like it this way.

575
00:42:28,180 --> 00:42:32,180
Look at that. That's great. There's no way.

576
00:42:32,980 --> 00:42:36,860
You had- There's no way. You had to intend that.

577
00:42:36,860 --> 00:42:40,220
Please tell me. Don't even pretend. Please tell me. Stop pretending now.

578
00:42:40,220 --> 00:42:43,540
All right, I'll stop pretending. You can stop pretending. Sure.

579
00:42:43,540 --> 00:42:48,020
Oh, I did this wrong. Oh no, I didn't. Okay, cable management.

580
00:42:48,940 --> 00:42:51,580
Pretty okay. Bull management.

581
00:42:53,140 --> 00:42:54,860
No, that's not ding worthy.

582
00:42:56,660 --> 00:43:01,340
You can't give me credit for bad dings because that will take away the high

583
00:43:01,340 --> 00:43:05,700
that I get from the good dings. They're all bad dings. We're trying to remove all pies

584
00:43:05,700 --> 00:43:09,100
that you get from the dings because we need you to stop. You don't need me to stop.

585
00:43:09,100 --> 00:43:11,540
I will increase the minimum quality. Thank you.

586
00:43:12,420 --> 00:43:15,420
He's upping the setting in the Dan membrane.

587
00:43:15,420 --> 00:43:19,180
Dan, you want to hit me with a merge message? More sad dings. Yeah, I guess I've got a lot.

588
00:43:20,980 --> 00:43:26,140
Let's see, are there any cases that separate GPU and CPU intake and exhaust?

589
00:43:26,140 --> 00:43:32,180
Sure, there would be some interference with PCI brackets, but why not go back to side panel fans?

590
00:43:32,180 --> 00:43:37,220
That is such a good question. That's so funny because that was actually

591
00:43:37,220 --> 00:43:40,500
in that conversation at Computex that I was talking about earlier

592
00:43:40,500 --> 00:43:44,340
where I was kind of being asked, okay, is there anything that you feel

593
00:43:44,340 --> 00:43:48,060
like case manufacturers are overlooking? That was actually one of the things we talked about

594
00:43:48,060 --> 00:43:52,900
is yeah, what happened to the whole cooling zone paradigm

595
00:43:52,900 --> 00:43:55,980
that was introduced by the Ntech P180 back in the day?

596
00:43:55,980 --> 00:43:59,940
And that was, and also while we're at it,

597
00:43:59,980 --> 00:44:04,580
the P4 style side intake fan.

598
00:44:04,580 --> 00:44:10,100
I think that those are ideas that could be more relevant today

599
00:44:10,100 --> 00:44:14,240
than they were back when they were current meta.

600
00:44:17,340 --> 00:44:24,660
So good question. Yeah, good question. I, especially for these flow through GPUs

601
00:44:24,700 --> 00:44:31,140
that have really taken off in popularity like this 9070 XT Tai Chi from ASRock here,

602
00:44:31,140 --> 00:44:35,420
where you've got this big old, oh, sorry.

603
00:44:35,420 --> 00:44:39,940
Where you got this big old fan here that's blowing through a big fat heat sink

604
00:44:39,940 --> 00:44:43,900
and then blowing all the way through the back of the card. Being able to capture this heat,

605
00:44:43,900 --> 00:44:48,100
like this is gonna be your hardest working, best cooling fan on this particular design.

606
00:44:48,100 --> 00:44:52,460
Being able to capture this heat and just duct it right out of the case

607
00:44:52,460 --> 00:44:55,780
could make a measurable difference to CPU temperatures,

608
00:44:55,780 --> 00:44:59,560
not to mention your RAM and your VRMs and all that good stuff. What am I holding this for?

609
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:02,920
I don't need this yet. Okay. Sorry about that, Elijah. No worries.

610
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:06,260
I'll hold it. You can have it back. Thank you for all this camera. You're welcome.

611
00:45:07,220 --> 00:45:09,300
No. Thank you.

612
00:45:12,620 --> 00:45:16,000
Dan, go ahead and hit me. Hanging up too much. I deserve it.

613
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:22,980
Hey, Linkus, Dinkus and Elijah. Have any of you played Game of the Year

614
00:45:22,980 --> 00:45:28,780
Claire Obscure Expedition 33 yet? You can e a French person wearing a baguette

615
00:45:28,780 --> 00:45:30,860
and fight oversized mimes.

616
00:45:31,900 --> 00:45:35,420
Wee-wee. No, I have not played it.

617
00:45:35,420 --> 00:45:39,340
I've been asked a lot to play it, but it doesn't look like my type of game,

618
00:45:39,340 --> 00:45:44,220
so I probably will not play it. I, meanwhile, have also been asked to try it,

619
00:45:44,220 --> 00:45:49,220
and I will play it because it looks like my type, for sure.

620
00:45:49,380 --> 00:45:53,140
I'm pretty excited to try it out, and it's what, like 30, 40 bucks or something like that?

621
00:45:53,140 --> 00:45:58,660
Yeah, it's not triple A priced. Double A priced? Yeah. My Game of the Year, though, is Blueprints.

622
00:45:58,660 --> 00:46:02,940
That game is unbelievably good. If you have not seen it, it's on Game Pass.

623
00:46:02,940 --> 00:46:06,620
You can go give it a try. As a Game of the Year? I think it's my Game of the Year.

624
00:46:07,780 --> 00:46:12,140
It's gonna be tough to beat Split Fiction because Split Fiction was also incredible, but.

625
00:46:12,140 --> 00:46:15,660
Do you play any good games? No, I'm kidding. What the heck?

626
00:46:15,660 --> 00:46:19,740
I also really, really liked Blueprints. That was great. I thought it was amazing. Game of the Year, though, not sure.

627
00:46:19,740 --> 00:46:23,500
I'm like 60 hours in to Blueprints. What?

628
00:46:23,500 --> 00:46:27,640
What? Is your RNG that bad? No, when you complete the game,

629
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:31,500
you don't complete the game. Oh, you're doing new Game Plus. Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay. Yeah.

630
00:46:31,500 --> 00:46:32,960
So,

631
00:46:36,140 --> 00:46:41,980
this is okay. In terms of cable management? Yeah, just everything's just, everything's kinda,

632
00:46:41,980 --> 00:46:46,660
it's kinda okay. I'm just gonna kinda plug this in here,

633
00:46:46,660 --> 00:46:50,100
do a little thing like that. Yes, I know, technically I don't have to

634
00:46:50,100 --> 00:46:53,420
put it under like this. I just find it a little bit easier to really

635
00:46:53,420 --> 00:46:54,780
wrench it down if I do that.

636
00:46:57,180 --> 00:47:01,460
Do you feel like it's worse than the last one? The way these fans are daisy-chained,

637
00:47:01,460 --> 00:47:05,260
you know, back to the whole reusability. Yeah, that's an advantage.

638
00:47:05,260 --> 00:47:09,100
It's nice that you can just use them as normal fans if you want,

639
00:47:09,100 --> 00:47:12,100
instead of like a triple fan thing, but it means they're just kinda,

640
00:47:12,100 --> 00:47:17,260
they're kinda hanging here like this, even though you do get the benefit of being able to plug them in with one header.

641
00:47:18,860 --> 00:47:22,500
It's okay, you know? Here's a little strap.

642
00:47:22,500 --> 00:47:24,580
We can give it a little strappy strap.

643
00:47:25,780 --> 00:47:29,620
Whoa, no. And, oh yeah, no, no, no, no, no.

644
00:47:29,620 --> 00:47:33,020
Okay, I figured out how to put that in there. It's from the back. Okay, that makes way more sense.

645
00:47:33,020 --> 00:47:38,340
Neat. Wow, that, oh man, yeah, let's see. Ah, see, this is hard though.

646
00:47:38,340 --> 00:47:39,660
This is hard and annoying.

647
00:47:42,700 --> 00:47:46,580
There, ugh. All right, I think I'm ready to,

648
00:47:46,580 --> 00:47:52,060
I think I'm ready to start working on the rating. Yep, what do you wanna go, do you wanna do features?

649
00:47:53,380 --> 00:47:56,900
Where do you wanna start? Let's do features. That's what we did for the last one. Sure, let's do that.

650
00:47:56,900 --> 00:48:02,420
So features such as things like extra fans, rubber grommets, fan filters, organized screw box,

651
00:48:02,420 --> 00:48:05,940
things like that. Do you think, eight was the Leon Lee,

652
00:48:05,940 --> 00:48:10,980
which is our best one so far. Do you think our features have been worse, are on par?

653
00:48:11,940 --> 00:48:16,940
I think this falls a little short for me in terms of things that I would consider to be extras.

654
00:48:16,940 --> 00:48:20,260
I really like these movable frame pieces

655
00:48:20,260 --> 00:48:23,820
so that you don't have any obstructions in the way of either the aesthetics

656
00:48:23,820 --> 00:48:28,900
or the airflow of your fans if you decide to use larger 140 millimeter fans

657
00:48:28,900 --> 00:48:33,820
rather than the default 120 mils. I do really like the ability to,

658
00:48:33,820 --> 00:48:38,580
with just a couple of screws, strip everything off of this thing.

659
00:48:38,580 --> 00:48:42,260
I mean, is that where they got the frame name from?

660
00:48:42,260 --> 00:48:48,060
I would, I would assume so. I like how open all the meshes are on it.

661
00:48:48,060 --> 00:48:53,740
They managed to mesh it up without it feeling as cheap as our first case.

662
00:48:53,740 --> 00:48:57,620
There's almost no metal left here, but you can clearly see why.

663
00:48:57,620 --> 00:49:00,980
Cause you can clearly see right through it, right?

664
00:49:00,980 --> 00:49:06,460
I really like that, but I do feel like there's little touches missing

665
00:49:06,460 --> 00:49:09,640
like the integrated power connectors

666
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:13,540
for the multiple fans. I definitely miss the,

667
00:49:13,540 --> 00:49:16,940
where'd our other system go? Oh man, it's so cool.

668
00:49:17,140 --> 00:49:21,020
Oh, the power supply. Oh, the ease of plugging in the power supply

669
00:49:21,020 --> 00:49:23,540
was so awesome on the other one.

670
00:49:26,380 --> 00:49:30,340
So our master box was a five. Lee and Lee was an eight.

671
00:49:30,340 --> 00:49:33,580
I want to give this a seven. I think that's very fair.

672
00:49:33,580 --> 00:49:38,380
I think it's really good, but I don't think I would take the trade-offs

673
00:49:38,380 --> 00:49:41,860
compared to our Land Cool, which is Lee and Lee.

674
00:49:41,860 --> 00:49:44,980
We're not quite done building yet, so we won't do building experience.

675
00:49:44,980 --> 00:49:49,500
I'm pretty close, but yeah, sure. What about cable management? Cause you were just talking about that.

676
00:49:49,500 --> 00:49:53,780
Our last one, the Lee and Lee got a four and the master box got a two.

677
00:49:53,780 --> 00:49:55,700
And this is out of five. Yes.

678
00:49:59,260 --> 00:50:04,260
I would say that this is a three and a half.

679
00:50:05,020 --> 00:50:08,820
Well, wait, no, hold on. I was going to say, we haven't quite put that on yet.

680
00:50:08,820 --> 00:50:12,420
Yeah, I got to put this on before I can fully judge it.

681
00:50:13,860 --> 00:50:18,940
How did this go in again? I don't know. Good gravy. No, I see it. Ooh, it has two different positions as well.

682
00:50:18,940 --> 00:50:22,060
That's nice. So you could have more or less room for the...

683
00:50:22,060 --> 00:50:26,020
Exactly. Exactly, that's very cool.

684
00:50:26,020 --> 00:50:29,060
Buh, buh, buh, buh. You know what?

685
00:50:30,620 --> 00:50:34,380
I'd say this can match the Lee and Lee. Cause once we've got this shroud in place,

686
00:50:34,380 --> 00:50:38,260
which by the way can also be replaced with a fan holder,

687
00:50:38,260 --> 00:50:41,660
this is pretty clean. So a four? Yeah. Cool.

688
00:50:41,660 --> 00:50:48,660
Yeah, we can hit this with a four. Oh, this gap.

689
00:50:50,100 --> 00:50:53,380
This is an awkward sized gap, Elijah.

690
00:50:53,380 --> 00:50:57,100
Cause I can... Oh man, can I get this USB three cable through here?

691
00:50:57,100 --> 00:51:00,540
Oh, I don't think you're going to. No, I can't get this through here,

692
00:51:00,540 --> 00:51:05,260
but I can't do this in the tighter position,

693
00:51:05,260 --> 00:51:08,780
but still run that cable through there. Oh wait, yes I can. Yeah, you can.

694
00:51:08,780 --> 00:51:11,780
I have to do it after the fact though. Oh, that's something.

695
00:51:11,780 --> 00:51:16,020
That could determine like your mother boy choice, right? Cause you've maybe had a slightly smaller mother board,

696
00:51:16,020 --> 00:51:19,700
but oh no, cause that's ATX. Yeah, this is going to do tax. Okay, no, no, it's okay.

697
00:51:19,700 --> 00:51:23,820
It's okay. Now it's covering it and it does fit. Okay, I stand by it.

698
00:51:23,820 --> 00:51:28,300
Was that by a four? Yeah, well I think it's on par. Yeah, yeah, I'm ready to call this a tie.

699
00:51:28,300 --> 00:51:31,460
You're pretty close to the building experience.

700
00:51:31,460 --> 00:51:37,500
Do you think you can start compiling your thoughts? Out of 10, the Lee and Lee got a 9.5.

701
00:51:38,940 --> 00:51:40,380
What do you think this lies?

702
00:51:42,780 --> 00:51:46,580
It's always dangerous to evaluate the intuitiveness

703
00:51:46,580 --> 00:51:49,580
of something because your intuition is colored

704
00:51:49,580 --> 00:51:56,980
by your past experiences. With that said, I think there are things

705
00:51:56,980 --> 00:52:01,820
that I could argue I found objectively more intuitive

706
00:52:01,820 --> 00:52:03,500
about the Lee and Lee case.

707
00:52:05,140 --> 00:52:09,660
Like the daisy chaining of the fans, then just already being plugged in,

708
00:52:09,660 --> 00:52:13,820
not needing to be re-routed around this stupid piece that I just took out.

709
00:52:16,860 --> 00:52:20,740
I found, for instance, these cable straps,

710
00:52:20,740 --> 00:52:24,700
just a little less easy to use, even though I actually have seen these before

711
00:52:24,700 --> 00:52:27,960
and I had not seen the Landcool style ones in the past.

712
00:52:30,340 --> 00:52:34,940
The power supply mounting was something that was different and yet very intuitive.

713
00:52:34,940 --> 00:52:40,980
So I guess what I'm trying to say is, bear in mind, as I say this,

714
00:52:40,980 --> 00:52:44,660
that I actually encountered more novel ideas

715
00:52:44,660 --> 00:52:49,300
in the Landcool Lee and Lee case than I am in the Frame 4000,

716
00:52:49,300 --> 00:52:53,620
but I found this case less intuitive to work in.

717
00:52:53,620 --> 00:52:55,260
Not a ton more work,

718
00:52:58,340 --> 00:53:02,060
but definitely a little less smooth.

719
00:53:02,060 --> 00:53:05,940
Like now that it's time to button it all up and put it back together,

720
00:53:05,940 --> 00:53:07,900
I'm having a hard time remembering.

721
00:53:09,060 --> 00:53:12,380
Like where things go and... Actually, no, I remember where this went.

722
00:53:13,900 --> 00:53:17,660
No, okay, okay, you know what? No, I shouldn't say I'm having a hard time remembering anything.

723
00:53:17,660 --> 00:53:19,420
I can remember where the pieces go.

724
00:53:24,340 --> 00:53:28,100
It's just not as good. I give it an eight. An eight. Yeah, do you think I'm being unfair?

725
00:53:28,100 --> 00:53:33,420
I don't think you're being unfair. You're the one building, so. Well, I mean, you're here, you're watching me do it.

726
00:53:34,460 --> 00:53:38,820
Usually do. What's the thing with him?

727
00:53:38,820 --> 00:53:43,300
He always escalates. Does that count as a ding? He won't back down.

728
00:53:43,300 --> 00:53:47,380
Let's pretend it didn't happen. Yeah, we can move on. Let's not ding anything.

729
00:53:48,540 --> 00:53:51,740
Let's put the top cover on you. Oh, we can put our GPU back in.

730
00:53:51,740 --> 00:53:53,780
I was gonna say, we have to get our GPU in.

731
00:53:54,940 --> 00:53:58,420
Take the cover off and we're gonna need to pull the PCI-U covers as well.

732
00:53:58,420 --> 00:54:03,020
Awesome. Oh, yeah, right. Oh man, this didn't quite click in.

733
00:54:04,020 --> 00:54:08,020
Yeah, it's just, it's little things.

734
00:54:10,220 --> 00:54:15,380
Especially because this one is, I think our most expensive one, at $110,

735
00:54:16,380 --> 00:54:20,940
do you think the value of this case is on par with the others,

736
00:54:20,940 --> 00:54:28,500
or do you think it's a worse value? Well, it's price, not value, is our evaluation component.

737
00:54:29,340 --> 00:54:33,420
So we have to give it, like obviously, this isn't the world's most expensive case either.

738
00:54:33,420 --> 00:54:41,220
It's $110, that's a perfectly reasonable price for a well-cooled, pretty well-thought-out case.

739
00:54:43,220 --> 00:54:47,820
It's compatible with vertical mounts, which is nice to see.

740
00:54:47,820 --> 00:54:51,620
I don't, ooh, I don't love how this kind of interferes

741
00:54:51,620 --> 00:54:58,900
with getting at some of these thumb screws here. And for a thumb screws sticking out of the case setup,

742
00:54:58,900 --> 00:55:02,580
my screwdriver is actually quite angled to get into this.

743
00:55:03,620 --> 00:55:10,900
Part of that is that it is a multi-bit screwdriver, so it has to have like a female socket for my bit.

744
00:55:10,900 --> 00:55:14,340
But I think that's something that is fairly safe

745
00:55:14,340 --> 00:55:17,660
to assume that a lot of people are using, so I don't know about this Corsair.

746
00:55:17,660 --> 00:55:20,940
Do you want an extension? Nope, the extension won't help,

747
00:55:20,940 --> 00:55:24,860
because it's the same thickness. There was a thickness problem?

748
00:55:24,860 --> 00:55:29,860
Yeah. Yes. Even if I had a perfectly skinny shaft,

749
00:55:29,860 --> 00:55:33,180
there's kind of a ridge here.

750
00:55:33,180 --> 00:55:34,980
Don't make a face. There's kind of a little lip.

751
00:55:38,020 --> 00:55:42,180
Why are we talking about a shaft? I think price-wise, I have to give it,

752
00:55:42,180 --> 00:55:49,380
like I have to give it kind of a four. Four? All right. Yeah, like the price is five.

753
00:55:49,380 --> 00:55:54,540
All right. I think it's a fine, I think it's a fine price for a fine case.

754
00:55:56,460 --> 00:55:59,460
All right, let's get this GPU in here.

755
00:55:59,460 --> 00:56:03,580
And then as you're kind of wrapping it up here and closing it out, the last one is a bonus.

756
00:56:03,580 --> 00:56:05,780
Do you think this thing deserves any bonuses?

757
00:56:08,340 --> 00:56:13,340
Man, Corsair, I like being able to add a bunch more fans.

758
00:56:17,500 --> 00:56:21,900
I like being able to strip everything away so that I can really see what I'm doing.

759
00:56:21,900 --> 00:56:27,300
I don't know if I can give any bonus marks for that though, because I kind of already gave them points for that.

760
00:56:27,300 --> 00:56:30,420
Sure. And they'd like ease of use. Yeah.

761
00:56:30,420 --> 00:56:36,300
Do you think any of like the other accessories that you get, like the, you can swap it out to the more solid color

762
00:56:36,300 --> 00:56:40,580
or any of the other like mounting options?

763
00:56:42,780 --> 00:56:46,300
Hmm. Do we have some zip ties?

764
00:56:46,300 --> 00:56:49,980
Yep. Cool. Do those come with the case? All right, that's nice to see.

765
00:56:49,980 --> 00:56:54,260
Oh yeah, they didn't have the... See, this is the thing. This is what's happening here.

766
00:56:54,300 --> 00:56:58,540
Is the more I think about it, the more I'm reminded of things that it doesn't have.

767
00:56:58,540 --> 00:57:02,620
It doesn't have the little sorting tray for all of my hardware. So now I have to just, I don't know,

768
00:57:02,620 --> 00:57:07,620
put that in this giant box that I can't get rid of now.

769
00:57:08,300 --> 00:57:11,540
I'm not criticizing them for including the accessories that are in there.

770
00:57:11,540 --> 00:57:15,940
That's super cool. Thank you, Corsair. But I have to keep track of this box now,

771
00:57:15,940 --> 00:57:21,420
instead of being able to just put my accessories into a nice little cubby and tuck them into my case, right?

772
00:57:24,380 --> 00:57:26,420
What would you give it a bonus for?

773
00:57:30,660 --> 00:57:36,660
Probably the amount of airflow that it probably has. I think a lot of cases sometimes try to go for more aesthetics

774
00:57:36,660 --> 00:57:41,380
and make it all clean and sleek. And I know NZXT for a long time had the issues

775
00:57:41,380 --> 00:57:45,980
with what it was, like the H5s and the H7s or whatever. They looked really good,

776
00:57:45,980 --> 00:57:49,140
but you couldn't get a single ounce of air through the front, right?

777
00:57:49,140 --> 00:57:54,460
You know what? I think that's really fair. This is probably from looking at them,

778
00:57:54,460 --> 00:58:00,020
which you really can tell a lot from a case by looking at it, especially when you can see

779
00:58:00,020 --> 00:58:04,020
right through it. This is probably the best airflow case

780
00:58:04,020 --> 00:58:07,020
that we're going to look at today. Yeah.

781
00:58:07,020 --> 00:58:09,660
Especially that front panel. That front panel was like crazy.

782
00:58:10,660 --> 00:58:14,340
So do you think they get one point? However, hear me out.

783
00:58:14,340 --> 00:58:18,220
Okay, so let's look. And again, the comparisons, the thief of joy,

784
00:58:18,220 --> 00:58:23,620
as Puff always said. That has a looser mesh, you know?

785
00:58:23,620 --> 00:58:28,340
It has more fan filtration than this one does. This actually doesn't have a filter on these front fans.

786
00:58:28,340 --> 00:58:33,020
That, I kind of want to take off a half a bonus point for that actually, now that I noticed that.

787
00:58:33,020 --> 00:58:36,020
That's a downer, if you have pets especially. I can adjust it.

788
00:58:36,020 --> 00:58:41,980
Yeah, I think we should do that. But while this doesn't have as open a mesh as that one,

789
00:58:41,980 --> 00:58:46,380
what it does have is four fans. Sure, yeah. Two of which are blowing directly into the bottom

790
00:58:46,380 --> 00:58:50,860
of our GPU while Corsair with the frame 4000 here

791
00:58:50,860 --> 00:58:55,340
is relying on old paradigm just kind of blowing here

792
00:58:55,340 --> 00:58:59,140
and hoping any of it isn't heated up by the time it makes it all the way over here.

793
00:59:02,980 --> 00:59:07,300
So that's tough. Is the airflow better in a way that is meaningful

794
00:59:07,300 --> 00:59:10,500
to our hottest component in the system?

795
00:59:10,500 --> 00:59:14,860
Yeah, I would say no then. So I don't think I can...

796
00:59:14,860 --> 00:59:18,620
No bonus points? I don't think I can give it a bonus point for that, but... I did dock the 0.5.

797
00:59:18,620 --> 00:59:22,820
Yeah, they managed to get something docked from their competitor and hey,

798
00:59:22,820 --> 00:59:24,980
your competitor's loss is your win, right?

799
00:59:26,740 --> 00:59:30,780
Sure. I mean, that's a philosophy.

800
00:59:30,780 --> 00:59:33,820
I don't know that that's Corsair's philosophy, but it's a philosophy.

801
00:59:33,820 --> 00:59:37,980
All right, five plus seven plus eight plus four is 24.

802
00:59:39,060 --> 00:59:42,300
24 out of 35? Yes. Okay.

803
00:59:42,300 --> 00:59:44,860
It's in second place right now. That's okay.

804
00:59:46,700 --> 00:59:50,580
Should we fire it up so we can see what it looks like? We should and we should get all the side panels on

805
00:59:50,580 --> 00:59:55,580
and everything. Oh man, that kind of makes me want to give... Did we give a bonus to the other one for all the RGB?

806
00:59:55,580 --> 00:59:59,420
Which other one for the RGB? Langkool. I don't believe we did.

807
01:00:00,740 --> 01:00:05,980
They did fine. They're already winning, there you go. I think they're pretty comfortably coasting

808
01:00:05,980 --> 01:00:10,260
to first place here. What is this? Is this slightly too big?

809
01:00:11,540 --> 01:00:14,900
No, I just think it was not in properly. Okay, I got it.

810
01:00:15,020 --> 01:00:19,660
I got it, I got it. That's an interesting thing that I don't know

811
01:00:19,660 --> 01:00:23,020
that I would actually want to be see-through. And I guess that's why Corsair includes

812
01:00:23,020 --> 01:00:26,140
the blackout version of it. Okay, I get that now.

813
01:00:26,140 --> 01:00:29,860
Good job, Corsair. You don't get a point though.

814
01:00:32,540 --> 01:00:38,140
I feel like price is one of those things that we try to isolate by having a separate category for it,

815
01:00:38,140 --> 01:00:42,700
but you almost can't do it because everything has to come through the lens of, okay,

816
01:00:42,700 --> 01:00:44,900
but how much am I paying for it? Sure, yeah.

817
01:00:46,140 --> 01:00:52,060
Makes it really hard to assess the value of things just in general when you could pay more,

818
01:00:52,060 --> 01:00:56,100
twice as more and get twice as many features or whatever. That's a fine looking build.

819
01:00:56,100 --> 01:00:59,860
Yeah. Maybe even a touch cleaner.

820
01:00:59,860 --> 01:01:02,860
Try not to dock the white cooler. No, I get it, I get it.

821
01:01:02,860 --> 01:01:06,740
But no, I'm saying because of this. Maybe even it ends up a touch cooler,

822
01:01:06,740 --> 01:01:11,700
then a cleaner than the land cool. But it lacks the RGB, it was $20.

823
01:01:12,700 --> 01:01:19,700
A few more, a few more fans included. I think. Solid, feels good.

824
01:01:19,700 --> 01:01:22,780
I wouldn't necessarily say better. Feels good though.

825
01:01:22,780 --> 01:01:26,260
Sorry, what are you gonna say? I was gonna say, I feel like watching you build

826
01:01:26,260 --> 01:01:30,980
the land cool seemed overall like a better situation.

827
01:01:30,980 --> 01:01:34,780
This was easy, but the land cool gave me joy. I think, yeah, and that's why I think,

828
01:01:34,780 --> 01:01:37,440
I think we made the right choice with this one, not scoring as high.

829
01:01:38,660 --> 01:01:43,660
Even though you keep kind of going back and forth on, oh, was this and that, but.

830
01:01:43,660 --> 01:01:47,700
That's the thing. It's good, but it's not exciting, if that makes sense.

831
01:01:52,060 --> 01:01:55,460
But am I just a jaded PC reviewer?

832
01:01:56,420 --> 01:02:00,420
Like if you guys are having a different experience, like yeah, hit me up in the chat.

833
01:02:00,420 --> 01:02:06,100
Be like, hey Linus, I think you're being totally unfair, or hey, I think you're being totally too fair the other way.

834
01:02:06,100 --> 01:02:08,860
If it didn't excite you, you should be giving it a two out of 10.

835
01:02:11,340 --> 01:02:15,420
Call for blood, you know? Yeah, Linus, I think you are idiot.

836
01:02:16,940 --> 01:02:21,140
Not my blood. Oh, idiot.

837
01:02:21,140 --> 01:02:24,220
How much do you love this power button?

838
01:02:24,220 --> 01:02:27,500
Why? Oh, is it bad? It's something.

839
01:02:28,860 --> 01:02:32,420
That's the power button? I would not have guessed that. Crosshair.

840
01:02:32,420 --> 01:02:35,660
Looks like a butthole. Crosshair. Okay, okay, okay.

841
01:02:38,660 --> 01:02:43,100
Sven is nodding violently. It makes it even weirder, that Linus was just like rubbing his finger over it.

842
01:02:43,100 --> 01:02:46,660
Well, I didn't think anyone was gonna make it weird.

843
01:02:46,660 --> 01:02:48,140
Jeez, you guys.

844
01:02:50,460 --> 01:02:53,780
I don't know, I'd give the case less points for that.

845
01:02:53,780 --> 01:02:57,180
Chat disagrees. It loses the butthole bones.

846
01:02:57,180 --> 01:03:00,660
I actually don't know that Chat disagrees. Chat probably agrees knowing them.

847
01:03:03,620 --> 01:03:09,100
What, did you want me to move? No, just so I can see. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, there's not a lot to see in this one, unfortunately.

848
01:03:10,100 --> 01:03:13,460
That's about it. We get a little bit of RGB on that GPU from Asrock.

849
01:03:13,460 --> 01:03:16,500
We get some RGB on the CPU cooler from Valkyrie,

850
01:03:16,500 --> 01:03:18,580
our sponsor. And,

851
01:03:21,100 --> 01:03:26,100
yep. It doesn't, I think it doesn't look as good now.

852
01:03:28,300 --> 01:03:32,420
Yeah. Cause it had, even though like these are Crosshair fans,

853
01:03:32,420 --> 01:03:35,700
that one had like two RGB fans at the front, right? Yeah.

854
01:03:35,700 --> 01:03:38,940
I don't know. I think we made the right choice. I think we made the right choice.

855
01:03:38,980 --> 01:03:42,100
All right. On to case.

856
01:03:42,100 --> 01:03:45,100
Where does this go? Oh, it's going to take over one of our ones that we're going to work on.

857
01:03:45,100 --> 01:03:47,620
Do you want to work on that, Shafi? Put it here. All right.

858
01:03:48,820 --> 01:03:52,420
Mashify. I think this is the first of the cases

859
01:03:52,420 --> 01:03:55,660
that we've looked at today that I've actually built in before. Oh, okay, that's good.

860
01:03:55,660 --> 01:04:02,180
So this, there won't be any surprises. This is the top selling case on B&H for 99.99.

861
01:04:03,820 --> 01:04:07,260
So we're expecting this to land right smack dab

862
01:04:07,260 --> 01:04:10,260
down the middle of the last two cases that we looked at

863
01:04:10,260 --> 01:04:12,620
if it's going to compete on value.

864
01:04:13,500 --> 01:04:16,060
Boy. There we go.

865
01:04:17,100 --> 01:04:20,380
Come on. Come on. You can do it.

866
01:04:20,380 --> 01:04:23,620
You can do it. Mashify. All right.

867
01:04:25,980 --> 01:04:29,020
Am I going to get zapped? Ow, yo. I heard that.

868
01:04:29,020 --> 01:04:30,820
That was a good one. Ouch.

869
01:04:32,140 --> 01:04:34,980
Okay. Dang it.

870
01:04:35,980 --> 01:04:39,620
Again, same kind of... Crummy packing material. One hit packing material.

871
01:04:39,620 --> 01:04:44,260
Again. How y'all doing, chat?

872
01:04:44,260 --> 01:04:47,340
Oh, a lot of Fractal fans out there.

873
01:04:47,340 --> 01:04:51,620
Yup. Fractal was a big disrupter in the case industry

874
01:04:51,620 --> 01:04:55,900
when they showed up. I actually ordered,

875
01:04:57,220 --> 01:05:02,500
I don't think the first, but maybe the second container

876
01:05:02,500 --> 01:05:07,780
of Fractal design cases to North America. It was the Define R2.

877
01:05:07,780 --> 01:05:11,700
And I believe New Egg was the first to stock it.

878
01:05:11,700 --> 01:05:15,140
And then I saw it. I saw the reviews for it.

879
01:05:15,140 --> 01:05:20,140
And I was just like, we got a couple samples of it, if I recall correctly.

880
01:05:20,140 --> 01:05:23,580
And there were just so many little things that they had innovated on.

881
01:05:24,420 --> 01:05:28,340
Elijah, if you want to install the cooler on this. Oh, sure. Probably swell.

882
01:05:28,340 --> 01:05:33,300
So many little things that they had innovated on. They managed to get the look of the Antec P180,

883
01:05:33,300 --> 01:05:37,860
which was kind of the case at the time, at a much lower price.

884
01:05:37,860 --> 01:05:41,020
They didn't have the airflow zones of the P180,

885
01:05:41,020 --> 01:05:44,260
but they managed enough airflow.

886
01:05:44,260 --> 01:05:49,780
And they had this bitumen material, this acoustic dampening material on the inside

887
01:05:49,780 --> 01:05:52,940
that really made a huge difference

888
01:05:52,940 --> 01:05:58,420
to the acoustic profile of the system without costing as much as the like,

889
01:05:58,420 --> 01:06:01,700
six layer dip version that Antec had

890
01:06:01,700 --> 01:06:04,820
on their front panel of the case and on the side panels.

891
01:06:04,820 --> 01:06:07,860
So it was kind of, they came in as sort of

892
01:06:07,860 --> 01:06:11,180
like a budget knockoff, no offense fractal.

893
01:06:11,180 --> 01:06:14,980
I mean, search your feelings. You know this to be true.

894
01:06:14,980 --> 01:06:21,420
And over time, they've evolved as a company to become an innovator and to become one of the brands

895
01:06:21,420 --> 01:06:26,820
that is often copied. And I think the Meshify is actually an excellent example

896
01:06:26,820 --> 01:06:29,980
of just a well-executed, great value case

897
01:06:29,980 --> 01:06:33,980
that others have looked to and gone, oh, I kind of wish I thought of that.

898
01:06:36,140 --> 01:06:39,260
Front IO is not as robust as what we've seen

899
01:06:39,260 --> 01:06:42,860
on the last two more expensive cases, no USB-C,

900
01:06:42,860 --> 01:06:47,660
but we do have two USB 3.0 ports, but we have magnetic filters on the top,

901
01:06:47,660 --> 01:06:51,780
as well as a slide out from the front filter on the bottom.

902
01:06:51,780 --> 01:06:56,780
That's a little touch that so many companies try to do right

903
01:06:56,780 --> 01:06:59,860
and many fail because it's a lot more work

904
01:06:59,860 --> 01:07:04,420
to slide it out at the back when it's, you know, down below your desk and everything's all plugged

905
01:07:04,420 --> 01:07:08,940
into it at the back. It's kind of hard to get a long filter out there. So that's pretty nice to see.

906
01:07:08,940 --> 01:07:15,220
How's our, how's our front panel? Come on, there we go, give it the old, there we go.

907
01:07:16,220 --> 01:07:20,140
Already, there is one thing that I'm not liking compared to the frame.

908
01:07:20,140 --> 01:07:24,180
You can see, I can't really just remove all the pieces of it and get them out of my way.

909
01:07:24,180 --> 01:07:27,500
This is going to be a much more conventional order

910
01:07:27,500 --> 01:07:29,020
of operations build.

911
01:07:30,500 --> 01:07:35,380
Can't just like tear the whole thing apart and then tackle it in any order that I want.

912
01:07:35,380 --> 01:07:39,940
Do have a nice little removable basement cover here though.

913
01:07:39,940 --> 01:07:43,460
So this gives us the flexibility to either clear up space

914
01:07:43,460 --> 01:07:47,940
in the front to install up to a triple 120 millimeter radiator, which we won't be doing today.

915
01:07:47,940 --> 01:07:51,300
So we're going to leave it in for a much cleaner look

916
01:07:51,300 --> 01:07:55,280
that covers up all of our, you know, ugly power supply cables down in the bottom.

917
01:07:57,140 --> 01:08:00,820
These little nice fractal touches, it's good to see them staying true to their roots.

918
01:08:00,820 --> 01:08:05,860
We've got a nice little vibration dampening strip down here on the bottom, as well as another one

919
01:08:05,860 --> 01:08:10,940
up here on the top for our tempered glass side panel. I kind of take tempered glass for granted

920
01:08:10,940 --> 01:08:15,500
in any case that is anywhere near the $100 price point these days.

921
01:08:15,500 --> 01:08:19,100
It used to be that you could kind of get bonus points for that, but I don't think Fractal will be getting

922
01:08:19,100 --> 01:08:23,620
any here. Captive screws, all these love to see those,

923
01:08:23,620 --> 01:08:26,740
but again, that's, you're not going to stand out

924
01:08:26,740 --> 01:08:30,540
for them at this price point. Oh, hello.

925
01:08:30,540 --> 01:08:35,700
Oh, there we go, nice. Internet says you can remove only the middle part

926
01:08:35,700 --> 01:08:39,580
of the front. Sorry, only the middle part of the front,

927
01:08:39,580 --> 01:08:43,660
as opposed to what? You think, I don't, I'm not sure.

928
01:08:43,660 --> 01:08:47,140
I mean, let's have a look, let's see if we can figure out what you guys are talking about.

929
01:08:47,140 --> 01:08:51,740
Oh, the cover on it, or what? Let's hear, we'll remove this.

930
01:08:51,740 --> 01:08:52,580
There we go.

931
01:08:56,420 --> 01:09:02,580
Is there going to be a third screw over here? Nope. Okay, so that pops out, and then you can pop out

932
01:09:02,580 --> 01:09:05,700
these hard drive cages, and that'll give you the additional

933
01:09:05,700 --> 01:09:10,100
room that you need here. Oh, the mesh is a door. Yeah, I forgot about that too.

934
01:09:10,100 --> 01:09:13,180
Yeah, so if you put the front cover back on. Mm-hmm.

935
01:09:14,860 --> 01:09:19,020
Yep. And then just remove the door. And just remove the door.

936
01:09:19,060 --> 01:09:22,500
So if you pull the Fractal Logo, I built in a couple of these.

937
01:09:22,500 --> 01:09:26,500
Fractal Logo on the front, pull on that, it's a door.

938
01:09:29,500 --> 01:09:32,900
Oh, it doesn't look like it. I'm sure it is.

939
01:09:32,900 --> 01:09:36,180
Maybe it's secured in some way. Or pull harder.

940
01:09:37,380 --> 01:09:41,260
Yeah, don't be a win. I don't think, here, close up, you can see how hard I'm pulling on this thing.

941
01:09:44,020 --> 01:09:48,940
Try from the top, I don't know. It's gotta be secured, it's gotta be secured in some way.

942
01:09:48,940 --> 01:09:49,860
Hold on, hold on.

943
01:09:52,060 --> 01:09:53,140
Is it screwed shut?

944
01:09:58,620 --> 01:10:01,580
You might have broken it earlier. Don't pull the logo.

945
01:10:02,540 --> 01:10:05,380
Hold on. Pull the mesh on the panel. What are you stuck on?

946
01:10:08,980 --> 01:10:13,340
Oh, you just removed the entire door, yeah. But it's a door.

947
01:10:13,340 --> 01:10:17,180
It's a door. I mean, how sure are you, Dan?

948
01:10:18,180 --> 01:10:22,460
Maybe that was on the larger one? I think it's definitely stuck on something.

949
01:10:22,460 --> 01:10:27,260
Yeah, here, tell you what, I'll get a second opinion here.

950
01:10:27,260 --> 01:10:31,660
I do not believe that this is a door based on my current situation.

951
01:10:32,500 --> 01:10:34,420
This goes into the top like that.

952
01:10:35,860 --> 01:10:39,700
And this clips onto the bottom, all along here.

953
01:10:39,700 --> 01:10:43,100
Oh, maybe this model of a variety doesn't have a door.

954
01:10:43,100 --> 01:10:46,140
Okay. But anyway, that was the intended way to get into the front of the case.

955
01:10:46,180 --> 01:10:49,740
Uh-huh. Not a door. You know what?

956
01:10:49,740 --> 01:10:54,540
I like my way better. This was more work. Yeah, yeah, cause it's not a door.

957
01:10:54,540 --> 01:10:57,580
Cause I couldn't even, here, here, I'll show you guys what I mean.

958
01:10:57,580 --> 01:11:03,980
Look at this. Oh, the door is on the mesh if I too. Thanks Floor Plane for helping us break the case.

959
01:11:03,980 --> 01:11:07,740
So I, oh, no, I can reach that.

960
01:11:07,740 --> 01:11:11,140
Okay, okay, hold on. Okay, so here's how it works.

961
01:11:11,140 --> 01:11:15,540
You reach up into here and you can release this latch.

962
01:11:15,540 --> 01:11:19,300
There you go. To remove this. Which meshifies this?

963
01:11:19,300 --> 01:11:23,820
This is meshify one. And this is the meshify, this is the meshify C.

964
01:11:23,820 --> 01:11:28,020
Yes. Okay, so this is a fan filter,

965
01:11:28,020 --> 01:11:32,820
but it's not an easily cleanable one. It's a foam style one.

966
01:11:32,820 --> 01:11:35,900
And it's just attached to the, you know,

967
01:11:35,900 --> 01:11:40,820
the kind of cool, tessellated looking shape thing

968
01:11:40,820 --> 01:11:45,020
that they've got going on here. Are the fingerprints is apparent in IRL spaces?

969
01:11:45,020 --> 01:11:51,340
The fingerprints are very apparent in person. Yes. But I also wouldn't have had my grubby finger paws

970
01:11:51,340 --> 01:11:54,980
all over them if you guys hadn't told me that I could remove it as a door.

971
01:11:54,980 --> 01:11:58,940
So. The newer ones are a door. That's on me.

972
01:11:58,940 --> 01:12:03,460
Okay. All right, let's go ahead and fix this bad boy now.

973
01:12:03,460 --> 01:12:07,980
You know what? No, I'm going to keep this out for now. Just because maybe that'll make the build.

974
01:12:07,980 --> 01:12:11,420
Nope, that will not make the build process even slightly easier.

975
01:12:11,420 --> 01:12:15,780
Cool. Let's throw our motherboard in here.

976
01:12:15,780 --> 01:12:19,860
With our coolers. Fractal does a great job of this. And yeah, here we go.

977
01:12:19,860 --> 01:12:23,900
This case is no exception. They've got the nine included.

978
01:12:23,900 --> 01:12:27,860
Nope. Just one included.

979
01:12:27,860 --> 01:12:31,500
Motherboard standoff. Oh boy.

980
01:12:31,500 --> 01:12:35,340
So this is the first version. They're up to version three now.

981
01:12:35,340 --> 01:12:40,620
Look, we didn't pick the cases. We bought the most popular cases.

982
01:12:40,620 --> 01:12:43,900
I just find that interesting. How much is a Meshify three?

983
01:12:43,900 --> 01:12:45,740
Is it $99?

984
01:12:47,580 --> 01:12:50,100
I got 99 Meshfies, but this ain't one.

985
01:12:51,180 --> 01:12:54,180
It's like 200 bucks. Maybe she told us that.

986
01:12:54,180 --> 01:12:58,540
Oh, sorry. Did you say $200? Is that the middle one?

987
01:12:59,700 --> 01:13:02,980
The middle one. Because they do a large one. Oh, I don't know.

988
01:13:02,980 --> 01:13:06,460
Yeah, okay. Look, either way.

989
01:13:06,460 --> 01:13:09,860
Oh, it's very different. Oh yeah. This is the Meshify C,

990
01:13:09,860 --> 01:13:13,300
and this is what we're comparing today. This was the most popular on V&H.

991
01:13:13,300 --> 01:13:17,380
Yep. Oh man. Okay, so they're at least sorted into separate baggies.

992
01:13:17,380 --> 01:13:22,700
Labels are really out of fashion though. I mean, I guess it makes sense from a skew management perspective.

993
01:13:23,660 --> 01:13:27,260
You know, you take these two blank bags

994
01:13:27,260 --> 01:13:31,540
or just one skew, but as soon as you put labels on them, now they're two skews.

995
01:13:31,540 --> 01:13:36,740
So I get it. I often like it. $190 US dollars for the version three of this case.

996
01:13:36,740 --> 01:13:41,180
Yeah, so that's a markedly more expensive case, and I don't think is really comparable.

997
01:13:41,180 --> 01:13:44,460
I think we need to stay focused on the actual case that we have here today.

998
01:13:44,460 --> 01:13:48,340
The case that doesn't have the standoffs pre-installed in it.

999
01:13:48,340 --> 01:13:51,980
Oh, that's one. It has the one center one,

1000
01:13:51,980 --> 01:13:55,260
which means that out of every case we've looked at,

1001
01:13:55,260 --> 01:14:00,020
including the $40 case, this has the fewest pre-installed standoffs.

1002
01:14:00,020 --> 01:14:03,020
Okay, I would argue that the ones installed

1003
01:14:03,020 --> 01:14:06,180
in the $40 case almost seemed like a mistake

1004
01:14:06,180 --> 01:14:11,340
because it had the center one and then the top center one and no other one.

1005
01:14:11,340 --> 01:14:15,660
It's a, and if you consider that that was for an MATX case,

1006
01:14:15,660 --> 01:14:19,520
the proportion of the standoffs that were installed in it

1007
01:14:19,520 --> 01:14:24,100
compared to how many I would need to finish my build was actually much higher.

1008
01:14:24,100 --> 01:14:27,700
Don't think that's a fair way to rate it, but okay. I don't, I mean, look,

1009
01:14:27,700 --> 01:14:29,960
do I have to be fair when I'm unhappy?

1010
01:14:31,900 --> 01:14:34,340
Yeah, that's. Yes.

1011
01:14:35,340 --> 01:14:40,100
Although I have to talk about this in your annual performance review,

1012
01:14:40,100 --> 01:14:43,140
and I'm not happy about it. Yeah, the fact that you have to do

1013
01:14:43,140 --> 01:14:46,540
an annual performance review. Yeah, I'd be very unhappy. That's why you're not happy about it.

1014
01:14:46,540 --> 01:14:49,780
If he makes it to the review anyway. That's true.

1015
01:14:49,780 --> 01:14:53,500
Well, have I not made it to an annual performance review?

1016
01:14:53,500 --> 01:14:58,740
Is this a record I'm not getting? No, no, I'm saying Elijah might not. If I make it, because you know, you might ever, you know,

1017
01:14:58,740 --> 01:15:02,980
kick me in your pool or something. I'm legitimately kidding. I am not Elijah's manager

1018
01:15:02,980 --> 01:15:05,860
and I don't do his annual performance review. Yes.

1019
01:15:07,200 --> 01:15:11,740
What if one day. It's so ominous. What if you hire me a CVO too?

1020
01:15:11,740 --> 01:15:14,860
And then you technically would be my manager, right? I don't think that's how that works.

1021
01:15:14,860 --> 01:15:19,220
I don't think, when you hire someone, you hire them as the sequel of your own position.

1022
01:15:21,220 --> 01:15:22,360
CVOE?

1023
01:15:24,300 --> 01:15:28,180
Exec, or no, CV. What about, what about CVO Ultra?

1024
01:15:28,180 --> 01:15:32,780
Or it's like Ultramax. Oh yeah. Oh dude.

1025
01:15:32,780 --> 01:15:36,700
We at Apple love to have a CVO too.

1026
01:15:36,700 --> 01:15:41,340
Do that to ACAM. Does this only include two rinky dink fans?

1027
01:15:41,340 --> 01:15:44,900
Sorry, I can't. Oh, you're right. Oh my goodness. Oh yeah, this one.

1028
01:15:44,900 --> 01:15:50,700
Oh, uh-oh, yeah. No RGB, no, you know, daisy chain by default.

1029
01:15:50,700 --> 01:15:54,100
I gotta say, I am looking back on my time

1030
01:15:54,100 --> 01:15:57,740
with the Corsair Frame 4000,

1031
01:15:57,740 --> 01:16:00,900
much more favorably at this point.

1032
01:16:00,940 --> 01:16:04,420
Yeah. For a $10 difference between this and that,

1033
01:16:04,420 --> 01:16:07,900
I feel like you get more than $10 so far.

1034
01:16:07,900 --> 01:16:11,020
Or for saving $10 by going with the Land Cool,

1035
01:16:11,020 --> 01:16:13,900
this is a no-brainer, dude.

1036
01:16:15,780 --> 01:16:19,740
It's, to be clear, I haven't seen anything that is bad.

1037
01:16:19,740 --> 01:16:24,740
Yes. Sure. It's fine. It just is not standing out

1038
01:16:24,740 --> 01:16:26,820
compared to the competition at this point.

1039
01:16:28,980 --> 01:16:32,540
Would you like to do a merge message while you're installing? Yeah, I would. Dan, hit us.

1040
01:16:33,620 --> 01:16:36,700
Sure thing, let's see. Hi, lead.

1041
01:16:36,700 --> 01:16:41,420
What unusual, exotic, or non-existent case feature

1042
01:16:41,420 --> 01:16:45,420
would you like to see become more standard? And what standard feature would you like to see

1043
01:16:45,420 --> 01:16:51,140
disappear from the market? Ooh, I think that's almost too easy of one.

1044
01:16:51,140 --> 01:16:54,340
The standard feature that I'd like to see disappear from the market

1045
01:16:54,340 --> 01:16:59,340
is the current just disgusting mess that is ARGB.

1046
01:17:00,300 --> 01:17:04,860
Yeah. The industry standard connector is so terrible

1047
01:17:04,860 --> 01:17:08,300
that I don't blame the companies like Corsair

1048
01:17:08,300 --> 01:17:12,940
for trying to reinvent that wheel because it's a stupid triangular wheel.

1049
01:17:12,940 --> 01:17:17,940
And then the closed ecosystem connectors

1050
01:17:17,980 --> 01:17:22,020
are so expensive that I totally understand why nobody wants to...

1051
01:17:22,020 --> 01:17:25,620
That was close. Ooh, that was close.

1052
01:17:25,620 --> 01:17:30,980
That I totally understand why nobody wants to invest in them and then get locked into this bloody ecosystem

1053
01:17:30,980 --> 01:17:37,500
that they don't even know if they're gonna have any continuity in. Like, I hate it.

1054
01:17:37,500 --> 01:17:41,100
It sucks. As for stuff that I like,

1055
01:17:41,100 --> 01:17:45,540
that I would like to see become standard, well, I think we've seen some examples today for sure.

1056
01:17:45,540 --> 01:17:48,620
Rackmount gaming. Oh, okay. That's my...

1057
01:17:49,780 --> 01:17:55,540
I wish it was just cheaper. I understand that it's a low volume item.

1058
01:17:55,540 --> 01:18:00,180
You're not gonna sell as many consumer grade gaming rack-mounted chassis,

1059
01:18:00,180 --> 01:18:05,180
but the ones I got from Sliger are like 220 US dollars each.

1060
01:18:06,260 --> 01:18:12,540
And it's like, oh, and that's like a cheap one because I think Rosewell has some as well.

1061
01:18:12,540 --> 01:18:15,580
Like, it's too expensive.

1062
01:18:15,580 --> 01:18:21,340
Yeah, I can see that. The problem is that to have your gaming setup

1063
01:18:21,340 --> 01:18:25,580
be compatible with it, you have to have a rack.

1064
01:18:26,580 --> 01:18:30,220
And that's a lot of food you gotta eat.

1065
01:18:34,420 --> 01:18:37,260
I'm working on the new rubric. Ding?

1066
01:18:40,260 --> 01:18:45,340
That was probably one. I was gonna, my gut said ding.

1067
01:18:45,340 --> 01:18:50,660
Some gamers, some gamers, they're naturally gonna acquire the rack, you know?

1068
01:18:50,660 --> 01:18:54,740
For their networking equipment. Like one percent or less. For their networking equipment.

1069
01:18:55,620 --> 01:19:00,340
Either way, rack-mount gaming, I want more of it.

1070
01:19:00,340 --> 01:19:04,580
Shoot, I actually had thought of something that wasn't something that we looked at today

1071
01:19:04,580 --> 01:19:08,140
and now I'm really upset that I forget. So I'm just gonna cheat

1072
01:19:08,140 --> 01:19:14,620
and I'm gonna go with something that we saw today and that is I loved that sideways power supply mount.

1073
01:19:14,620 --> 01:19:21,100
Oh, yeah, I agree. I would love to see that just become fairly standard.

1074
01:19:21,100 --> 01:19:26,420
I don't know that it needs to be in every case. Certainly there will be more value-oriented cases

1075
01:19:26,420 --> 01:19:30,580
where it doesn't really make sense, but I'd say if you're charging $100 for your case

1076
01:19:30,580 --> 01:19:34,260
and your competitor has that feature, you should just have it. I agree.

1077
01:19:35,900 --> 01:19:39,460
There are trade-offs still. Like you're probably giving up some flexibility around

1078
01:19:39,460 --> 01:19:44,380
like hard drive mounting and stuff like that, but for most cases I feel like that is such a low priority

1079
01:19:44,380 --> 01:19:50,380
already anyway that I'd say just, yeah, just take it away. Yeah, like hard drive mounting is just a low priority.

1080
01:19:50,380 --> 01:19:54,600
Now, right, like having 3.5-inch drives or whatever.

1081
01:19:55,980 --> 01:19:59,460
Are you making fun of me? Yeah. Why?

1082
01:20:00,380 --> 01:20:04,300
Because it's so easy. Well, no, no, no, I'm saying like having a lot of space

1083
01:20:04,300 --> 01:20:08,900
for 3.5-inch drives in your system is a low priority. Yeah, yeah, that's what I'm saying.

1084
01:20:08,900 --> 01:20:10,860
Like having 3.5-inch drives,

1085
01:20:12,500 --> 01:20:15,940
are we arguing about the same thing? I have no idea what you're talking about. Okay.

1086
01:20:17,620 --> 01:20:21,220
How about we move on then? Sure. Okay.

1087
01:20:23,220 --> 01:20:27,100
Another merge message, I guess, I don't know. Whatever can fill the awkward silence.

1088
01:20:27,100 --> 01:20:30,460
I know, right? Yeah, hit us, hit us, hit us. Hey, Linus. Hey.

1089
01:20:30,460 --> 01:20:36,340
I have been using my Steam Deck as a living room console and was wondering if any of y'all have a small list

1090
01:20:36,340 --> 01:20:41,980
of great local multiplayer games besides tape-to-tape, LeMau, much love from Texas.

1091
01:20:41,980 --> 01:20:47,340
Pummel party. Pummel party? Yep. It's basically Mario Party, but.

1092
01:20:47,340 --> 01:20:51,740
Guns. Yeah. Rated like 14A.

1093
01:20:51,740 --> 01:20:57,180
There's a lot more board action in Pummel Party. Like you can actually interact on the board a lot more.

1094
01:20:57,180 --> 01:21:01,300
And it feels a little less tedious to get through.

1095
01:21:01,300 --> 01:21:04,700
Every, yes. Many times you mash A in Mario Party

1096
01:21:04,700 --> 01:21:09,100
because you're just like, hurry up with the dialogue, hurry up with the dialogue and yeah.

1097
01:21:09,100 --> 01:21:13,780
With that said, Mario Party definitely has some quality of life features that I missed playing through a full round

1098
01:21:13,780 --> 01:21:17,380
of Pummel Party for the first time with you guys the other day. Was that your first time playing through a full round?

1099
01:21:17,380 --> 01:21:20,420
Yeah. Okay, yeah. I like a partial round before I think,

1100
01:21:20,420 --> 01:21:23,900
but I've never actually made it through a full one because I'm usually the host.

1101
01:21:23,900 --> 01:21:26,220
Yeah. So I get pulled away to do stuff.

1102
01:21:28,220 --> 01:21:30,940
Like in Mario Party, you can practice the minigame,

1103
01:21:31,880 --> 01:21:35,820
which is nice when it's your first time playing. You can do it in Pummel Party. It's just, I didn't see it.

1104
01:21:35,820 --> 01:21:39,820
We just didn't do it. All I saw was the explanation.

1105
01:21:39,820 --> 01:21:45,060
No, there's a way to practice. I think you have to enable it before you start the board.

1106
01:21:45,060 --> 01:21:48,580
But there is a way that you can do a practice. Cool. Yeah.

1107
01:21:48,580 --> 01:21:51,780
All right, then make of that what you will.

1108
01:21:51,780 --> 01:21:55,900
I really like, I really like Mage Quit.

1109
01:21:55,900 --> 01:22:01,740
That's a good one too. Yeah, it's like a bomb squad slash poi poi slash,

1110
01:22:02,700 --> 01:22:07,700
I don't know what other games to compare it to. Probably most people have never heard of either of those.

1111
01:22:07,700 --> 01:22:12,300
Like Arena Brawler type game that supports up to,

1112
01:22:12,300 --> 01:22:15,540
is it 10 or 12 players or something like that? It's a lot.

1113
01:22:15,540 --> 01:22:20,260
Yeah, it's a lot. In local multiplayer, which is really cool. It might be eight, it might be eight.

1114
01:22:20,260 --> 01:22:23,500
Either way, it's a blast and what's nice about it

1115
01:22:23,500 --> 01:22:27,780
is it has a really clever built-in rubber banding

1116
01:22:27,780 --> 01:22:32,780
that feels kind of, it feels kind of unfair in a fair way.

1117
01:22:36,180 --> 01:22:40,740
I'm so sorry, I'm really trying not to have that.

1118
01:22:40,740 --> 01:22:46,620
So when you win the first round, you get a later pick for ability upgrades,

1119
01:22:46,620 --> 01:22:50,460
for later rounds. So at the start, that acts like I said,

1120
01:22:50,460 --> 01:22:53,500
as a really nice kind of rubber band,

1121
01:22:53,500 --> 01:22:58,860
providing an advantage in ability upgrades to the lesser skilled players.

1122
01:22:58,860 --> 01:23:04,120
And then over time, as everybody gets good, then it becomes like a different meta

1123
01:23:04,120 --> 01:23:09,180
where you strategically might throw a particular round in order to get a strategic pick.

1124
01:23:09,180 --> 01:23:14,140
So it's got a really high skill ceiling while still managing to be pretty friendly for new players.

1125
01:23:14,140 --> 01:23:15,940
I think it's a really cool game.

1126
01:23:19,060 --> 01:23:23,300
Do you wanna hit me with the power supply screws or did you put them away again? I don't, I have them here, sorry.

1127
01:23:23,300 --> 01:23:27,060
Noice. How about another one? Sure. Sure, hit me, Dan.

1128
01:23:27,060 --> 01:23:32,060
Hey, Alinas, would the transparent screwdriver be a limited run or would it stay for a while on the store?

1129
01:23:32,060 --> 01:23:37,060
Plus, could we have a price reveal? Would it be the same price as a regular screwdriver?

1130
01:23:37,060 --> 01:23:44,380
Ooh, those are good questions. I mean, almost everything's a regular item until,

1131
01:23:44,380 --> 01:23:47,860
You know. You discontinue it. Yeah, we discontinue it for some reason or another,

1132
01:23:47,860 --> 01:23:51,260
whether there's a costing change that makes it not make sense anymore

1133
01:23:51,260 --> 01:23:55,380
or whether a supplier disappears or bones us

1134
01:23:55,380 --> 01:24:01,100
or the second order quality doesn't match the first one or demand sucks and we have to blow them away

1135
01:24:01,100 --> 01:24:05,540
and we're obviously not gonna bring in more of something that we blew away at cost or below cost.

1136
01:24:05,540 --> 01:24:08,900
So is it a forever item?

1137
01:24:08,900 --> 01:24:13,220
I don't know. That's kind of up to all of you, isn't it?

1138
01:24:13,220 --> 01:24:18,220
Yeah, because there's a lot of demand. As for pricing, that's a good question.

1139
01:24:18,220 --> 01:24:22,240
Let me see if I could talk to the person who would know.

1140
01:24:28,300 --> 01:24:30,300
Hello, I'm sorry, hold on.

1141
01:24:41,500 --> 01:24:45,180
Hello? Do you like excitement?

1142
01:24:45,180 --> 01:24:49,100
Do you like suspense? Do you like Nell Carter?

1143
01:24:51,140 --> 01:24:55,460
Good, cause you won't find her here. This is the house of horrors.

1144
01:24:55,460 --> 01:24:58,900
And for you, it's absolutely free. Step right in.

1145
01:24:58,900 --> 01:25:01,460
Sorry, sorry, sorry. You're live on the show.

1146
01:25:02,500 --> 01:25:07,940
I'm just gonna go ahead and ask you a quick question that I don't know if you're allowed to answer yet.

1147
01:25:07,940 --> 01:25:12,300
Oh geez, okay. Do we know the retail pricing of the clear screwdriver yet?

1148
01:25:16,460 --> 01:25:20,300
You don't have to answer. You don't have to answer. This is not an obligation.

1149
01:25:22,900 --> 01:25:26,460
Can I call you right back? Sure. All right, bye.

1150
01:25:28,660 --> 01:25:34,460
Cool. Taren actually had a gun to his head off camera. I don't know how much higher we can escalate this call.

1151
01:25:35,900 --> 01:25:40,300
He's literally calling Taren. I don't know who he's calling.

1152
01:25:40,300 --> 01:25:43,540
He's probably in a meeting. I bet you that's why he was asking you to wait.

1153
01:25:43,540 --> 01:25:47,380
I have no idea what he was doing. I'm not his mother.

1154
01:25:47,380 --> 01:25:51,340
If we get a call back, we'll answer it. Yep, yep. But in the meantime, we might need to move on.

1155
01:25:51,340 --> 01:25:54,260
Yeah. You got another question?

1156
01:25:55,860 --> 01:25:58,900
Oh, we're not gonna have enough for the next case. We still got one more, right?

1157
01:25:58,900 --> 01:26:02,740
Yeah, at least one. You have one hour remaining. Oh, we got this.

1158
01:26:02,740 --> 01:26:06,540
What? Oh, we're gonna be fine. Oh yeah. This one has gone really quick, by the way.

1159
01:26:06,540 --> 01:26:10,220
Yeah, well, there's not really anything to say. Yeah, it's kind of just a standard case.

1160
01:26:10,220 --> 01:26:14,780
It's a good case. I built two in these. They're great, but they're a case.

1161
01:26:14,780 --> 01:26:18,140
Yeah, they're not. It's definitely not exciting.

1162
01:26:18,140 --> 01:26:22,340
This is the kind of thing that I feel like, you know what, here's what I need to know, Dan.

1163
01:26:22,340 --> 01:26:25,420
Can you do a little bit of quick research for us? Absolutely.

1164
01:26:25,420 --> 01:26:28,820
Is it possible that this is not a $99 case? Like what's the-

1165
01:26:28,820 --> 01:26:33,180
So this is the Meshify-C for DNA? Yeah, what's the price history for it, though, on Amazon?

1166
01:26:33,180 --> 01:26:36,980
Like is this one of those cases that's 99 until it's promo'd for 69?

1167
01:26:36,980 --> 01:26:41,980
I've seen it on New Egg for, on sale, 110 Canadian.

1168
01:26:43,420 --> 01:26:48,300
So that's 70. Normally it's 140. Let me get the thing open. Yeah, let's see if we can get a little bit more context

1169
01:26:48,300 --> 01:26:52,780
for it, because if this is one of those things where they're pricing it at 99,

1170
01:26:52,780 --> 01:26:56,700
just to make their everyday sale price seem a little bit more attractive,

1171
01:26:56,700 --> 01:27:01,420
that's not a sales tactic that I personally love, but it's also not one that might be

1172
01:27:01,420 --> 01:27:05,140
fractals fault necessarily. Mx is doing it at 144.

1173
01:27:05,140 --> 01:27:08,220
Canadian. So that would be 100 bucks.

1174
01:27:08,220 --> 01:27:10,180
Oh, I have an answer for you. One sec.

1175
01:27:12,660 --> 01:27:16,780
Hello, you are live on the stream. How much will the transparent screwdriver cost?

1176
01:27:18,020 --> 01:27:23,940
Same as regular. So 69, 99 are actually 69 in NUS,

1177
01:27:23,940 --> 01:27:27,740
and then the comparable on worldwide.

1178
01:27:27,740 --> 01:27:32,460
Wow. I'm actually kind of surprised. I think when we had initially discussed the product,

1179
01:27:32,460 --> 01:27:38,900
the plan had been to have a $10 upcharge, but I guess we've managed to make that work

1180
01:27:38,900 --> 01:27:44,700
for the people, hey? Okay. Yeah, we mapped the math, and we made it work, so.

1181
01:27:44,700 --> 01:27:48,220
Wow, okay, that's outstanding. Okay, great news, thanks, Nick.

1182
01:27:48,220 --> 01:27:51,420
All right, I'll give you a quick one. Okay, take care, man.

1183
01:27:51,420 --> 01:27:55,980
Goodbye. The math was we just need to sell 200,000 of them.

1184
01:27:55,980 --> 01:28:00,220
Yeah. Well, that would be fine. I'd be into, we actually had to make

1185
01:28:00,220 --> 01:28:05,100
mold changes for this. Oh, did you? I didn't know I didn't wear that. Yeah, in order to get rid of the flow issues.

1186
01:28:05,100 --> 01:28:08,180
Oh, did I not get to that part of the story earlier? No, you talked about the flow issues.

1187
01:28:08,180 --> 01:28:12,740
I didn't realize that it was a different mold. I thought you were talking about the type of injection you ended up, like the material.

1188
01:28:12,740 --> 01:28:19,740
We didn't need a new mold, but we had to make alterations to like our expensive mold

1189
01:28:20,020 --> 01:28:23,380
in order to get this done. Are we still using that mold? That's a really high quality mold.

1190
01:28:23,380 --> 01:28:26,380
Okay. Does this one have a glass panel?

1191
01:28:26,380 --> 01:28:31,940
Yes. Yes, it does have a glass panel. So there was one without the glass panel for 90 bucks.

1192
01:28:31,940 --> 01:28:35,700
And then this one has the- Canadian? No, this is at B&H, so US.

1193
01:28:35,700 --> 01:28:40,220
Okay. And this one has the dark tempered glass panel, which is more like a hundred US.

1194
01:28:40,220 --> 01:28:45,420
So basically it is- But it seems like it's about $100 across the board.

1195
01:28:45,420 --> 01:28:48,460
Okay. Okay. That doesn't bow well for it.

1196
01:28:48,460 --> 01:28:53,740
No, it doesn't. It's on the pricier side for cases.

1197
01:28:53,740 --> 01:28:57,020
I think so, especially when we compare it back to

1198
01:28:57,020 --> 01:29:01,700
even the Corsair, which was $10 more, you got some better features, I feel like,

1199
01:29:01,700 --> 01:29:04,940
or the Lee and Lee one, which was $10 cheaper.

1200
01:29:04,940 --> 01:29:08,180
To be clear, there's little thoughtful things.

1201
01:29:08,180 --> 01:29:12,140
Okay. You've got a nice little cutout that is perfectly sized

1202
01:29:12,140 --> 01:29:15,180
for the front panel audio connector down in here. Can we switch camera down?

1203
01:29:15,180 --> 01:29:19,260
So it kinda, anytime you're ready to end. Yep. So like you can pass it right through there.

1204
01:29:19,260 --> 01:29:23,660
It doesn't interfere with your power supply or anything like that, you know? I love to see stuff like that.

1205
01:29:23,660 --> 01:29:27,820
You've got another nice little pass through for your front panel connectors right here.

1206
01:29:28,820 --> 01:29:33,580
And one nice thing that I could say about this case

1207
01:29:33,580 --> 01:29:37,100
is that if you were following a guide, you know?

1208
01:29:37,100 --> 01:29:42,380
Yep. If you're following a guide on the internet, say how to build a PC, the last guide you'll ever need.

1209
01:29:42,380 --> 01:29:45,780
Or, I mean, more realistically,

1210
01:29:45,780 --> 01:29:48,860
I'd say the better of our guides for people to follow

1211
01:29:48,860 --> 01:29:52,780
if they really have never built a PC before are the FPV guides.

1212
01:29:52,780 --> 01:29:56,940
We've done two of them, and I think we do a really great

1213
01:29:56,940 --> 01:30:00,020
job of the kind of camera positioning

1214
01:30:00,020 --> 01:30:04,260
and making the point of view so accurate

1215
01:30:04,260 --> 01:30:09,300
to how you're actually going to be seeing the system as you're working on it, that we've seen a lot

1216
01:30:09,300 --> 01:30:12,820
of feedback from people that they're just hands down. The easiest video is to follow along

1217
01:30:12,820 --> 01:30:16,340
if you've never built a PC. Obviously, you're not necessarily gonna be using

1218
01:30:16,340 --> 01:30:23,820
exactly the same parts, but what I would say about this case is it is a C-A-S-E case.

1219
01:30:24,540 --> 01:30:27,740
Yep. And so if you were following some generic guide

1220
01:30:27,740 --> 01:30:30,980
on the internet and you picked up a Meshify C,

1221
01:30:30,980 --> 01:30:35,220
boy, would you ever be able to follow that generic guide on the internet?

1222
01:30:35,220 --> 01:30:39,620
That POV build was always so interesting to me. I was always wondering who was the type of people

1223
01:30:39,620 --> 01:30:44,340
to watch that. I never understood it. And then recently I got into a call with some people

1224
01:30:44,340 --> 01:30:49,380
I'd never talked with, and they said that their first and only video that they have ever watched

1225
01:30:49,380 --> 01:30:53,860
was when they were trying to build their first PC and they watched the FPV guide.

1226
01:30:53,860 --> 01:31:00,500
And I was like, that's crazy to me. I was like, but I guess there's a demand for it.

1227
01:31:00,500 --> 01:31:05,940
And I never realized that. Oh, 100%. That's, I mean, it's not the kind of thing

1228
01:31:05,940 --> 01:31:10,220
that we can upload every week because the regular viewers,

1229
01:31:10,220 --> 01:31:13,540
they just, they tune right out.

1230
01:31:13,540 --> 01:31:18,320
Like that's one of those videos that if you're familiar with YouTube metrics, you'll know that every time

1231
01:31:18,320 --> 01:31:22,420
you upload a video, you get this number out of 10.

1232
01:31:22,460 --> 01:31:27,080
And that's pretty much YouTube telling you how much you should value yourself that day.

1233
01:31:28,820 --> 01:31:33,340
Yep. So you can see my value for myself and Elijah too

1234
01:31:33,340 --> 01:31:38,340
is number two out of 10, which is pretty okay.

1235
01:31:38,460 --> 01:31:42,180
It hit a one out of 10. But it's not quite the dopamine hit of a one. Yeah.

1236
01:31:42,180 --> 01:31:47,020
You know, okay. So whenever we do those, like how to build a PC,

1237
01:31:47,020 --> 01:31:50,580
you know, POV, whatever types of guides

1238
01:31:50,620 --> 01:31:54,700
that realistically a lot of y'all, you know how to build a computer?

1239
01:31:54,700 --> 01:32:01,180
Yeah, kind of thought so. The core audience doesn't really get into it.

1240
01:32:01,180 --> 01:32:04,580
And so they tend to start out as a 10 out of 10,

1241
01:32:04,580 --> 01:32:11,060
which sounds great unless you have the context of what that means from a YouTube analytics standpoint.

1242
01:32:11,060 --> 01:32:14,980
So here, I'll show you what that looks like in terms of a view curve.

1243
01:32:14,980 --> 01:32:18,540
This gray range here is the typical range

1244
01:32:18,540 --> 01:32:21,540
of video performance. Wowee.

1245
01:32:21,540 --> 01:32:26,540
So this started at half the bottom of the typical range

1246
01:32:26,940 --> 01:32:31,940
and it took a whopping, let me just have a quick look here,

1247
01:32:32,340 --> 01:32:36,060
a whopping from, here we go,

1248
01:32:36,060 --> 01:32:40,900
May of 2024 to May of 2025.

1249
01:32:40,900 --> 01:32:46,140
A whole year. A whopping year to reach escape velocity

1250
01:32:46,140 --> 01:32:49,700
from the typical range. But if we leave that for another year,

1251
01:32:49,700 --> 01:32:52,780
it would like double again. Like it would be pretty insane.

1252
01:32:52,780 --> 01:32:56,120
Because, and again, this is something that's not typical.

1253
01:32:56,120 --> 01:33:02,760
The view curve is a straight line. Actually, there's a small inflection point there, right?

1254
01:33:03,660 --> 01:33:07,860
That's not typical. Typical view curve goes big burst of regular viewers

1255
01:33:07,860 --> 01:33:12,540
and I don't know, maybe you'll find an audience eventually, but it really flattens out in a big way.

1256
01:33:12,540 --> 01:33:18,780
So a little bit inside baseball for you guys. Yes, we are aware of the importance of those builds.

1257
01:33:19,780 --> 01:33:24,600
Especially for novice builders. But it's not the kind of thing that we can do all the time

1258
01:33:24,600 --> 01:33:29,100
because I just can't afford to have my channel die.

1259
01:33:30,420 --> 01:33:33,580
Yet. And this is the kind of gamification

1260
01:33:33,580 --> 01:33:37,400
that professional YouTubers have to do that we really wish we didn't.

1261
01:33:37,400 --> 01:33:40,440
Yeah, whether it's like, we hear you guys every time

1262
01:33:40,440 --> 01:33:45,420
we upload a thumbnail or a title that you guys necessarily don't really enjoy

1263
01:33:45,420 --> 01:33:49,220
because you think it might be too click-baity or something. But it's one of those cases of like,

1264
01:33:49,220 --> 01:33:54,660
we wouldn't do it if we like, didn't have to do it to get the clicks and views.

1265
01:33:54,660 --> 01:33:58,060
And we always do our best to make sure it's not click-bait, it's click-e.

1266
01:33:58,060 --> 01:34:03,160
And I think there's a very fine line to balance, but you know, we don't want to deceive you

1267
01:34:03,160 --> 01:34:07,020
when you click on the video. And I think we're always tuning it, we're always trying to do better.

1268
01:34:07,020 --> 01:34:10,460
Yeah. And sometimes we make mistakes

1269
01:34:10,460 --> 01:34:13,620
and sometimes we, sometimes we nail it.

1270
01:34:14,860 --> 01:34:18,580
We have definitely made mistakes with titles and changed them five minutes after posting.

1271
01:34:19,620 --> 01:34:23,940
And what was it? The iPhone for poor people or something like that? No, it was the Mac, it was the...

1272
01:34:23,940 --> 01:34:27,460
Finally a Mac for poor people. Yeah, it was like finally a Mac for poor people or something.

1273
01:34:27,460 --> 01:34:32,980
That's a banger title. I thought it was a banger title. I personally signed off on the title

1274
01:34:32,980 --> 01:34:38,580
and Elijah was like, that's crazy. I said in the, I said in the writing review

1275
01:34:38,580 --> 01:34:43,260
or script review, I was like, we should not do this. We kind of chuckled or like, ha, that's funny.

1276
01:34:43,260 --> 01:34:48,060
I said, we should not do this. Linus was like, nah. I was like, we're gonna have to change it.

1277
01:34:48,060 --> 01:34:53,260
He's like, nah. Good choice. Five minutes after upload, we changed that.

1278
01:34:53,260 --> 01:34:57,460
Were people really that upset? Yeah, I think it was also because the thumbnail

1279
01:34:57,460 --> 01:35:03,060
wasn't the greatest in line with it. We showed like, basically the equivalent

1280
01:35:03,060 --> 01:35:07,420
of East Hastings Street. Yeah, that I didn't see when I approved the title.

1281
01:35:07,420 --> 01:35:11,740
I remember that. So that was not good. No, that's bad. And to be fair, that was bad.

1282
01:35:11,740 --> 01:35:16,180
Yeah, but to be fair, that was also one of the three thumbnails.

1283
01:35:16,180 --> 01:35:19,700
The other two were different faces in front of an Apple store.

1284
01:35:19,700 --> 01:35:23,380
And believe it or not, those thumbnails definitely won the ABC test.

1285
01:35:24,520 --> 01:35:30,260
But when people got the paired, basically East Hastings Street with,

1286
01:35:30,260 --> 01:35:34,780
finally, a Mac for poor people, it was, we're aware it was poor taste.

1287
01:35:34,780 --> 01:35:38,620
That's why we changed it and we're always- Okay, part of the issue here though

1288
01:35:38,620 --> 01:35:42,460
is that I think people were taking it seriously when-

1289
01:35:42,460 --> 01:35:46,100
Linus, how many times have you talked about how people- I know, I know.

1290
01:35:47,020 --> 01:35:50,260
To me, I thought it was in such poor taste

1291
01:35:50,260 --> 01:35:54,740
that it would be clear that we were being facetious. And that's ultimately why,

1292
01:35:54,740 --> 01:35:58,060
after our script review, we were like, fine, people will take it as a joke.

1293
01:35:58,060 --> 01:36:02,620
Nope, people did not, so. Oh, people don't understand what East Hastings is.

1294
01:36:02,620 --> 01:36:07,580
Oh, sorry. That's our like, that's our like tent city.

1295
01:36:07,580 --> 01:36:12,300
Very local in Vancouver. It's where all the homeless people gather.

1296
01:36:12,300 --> 01:36:15,580
I think you mean the unhoused? Sure, sorry.

1297
01:36:15,580 --> 01:36:19,580
And Mackles. And Mackles, that's crazy.

1298
01:36:19,580 --> 01:36:24,060
Yeah, and Mackles. Thank you, Dan. You're really helping with this conversation

1299
01:36:24,060 --> 01:36:28,900
about how people didn't think that joke was funny. Yeah, I'm not a writer, it's fine.

1300
01:36:28,900 --> 01:36:31,940
Yeah, his reputation's not on the line.

1301
01:36:31,940 --> 01:36:33,980
I have that permanently added to my resume.

1302
01:36:36,420 --> 01:36:40,580
Okay, let's put this GPU in. Anyways, while he's installing the GPU,

1303
01:36:40,580 --> 01:36:42,780
do you wanna do another work? Sure.

1304
01:36:43,740 --> 01:36:48,980
Oh, no, no, buddy. Okay, how long of a GPU does it say

1305
01:36:48,980 --> 01:36:50,420
this thing's compatible with?

1306
01:36:52,060 --> 01:36:54,020
It should be on the card to your left.

1307
01:36:55,100 --> 01:36:59,860
Oh, man. Do we have to move the fan? Is that it? Oh, man, yeah.

1308
01:37:01,220 --> 01:37:04,220
GPU clearance, 315 millimeters.

1309
01:37:05,220 --> 01:37:07,900
Wait, is this even compatible with this GPU?

1310
01:37:09,900 --> 01:37:12,980
Elijah. I'm double checking.

1311
01:37:14,220 --> 01:37:18,660
In the meantime, let me do a quick double check of my own.

1312
01:37:20,420 --> 01:37:23,820
Yeah, I think we might get away with one here if I move this fan down.

1313
01:37:23,820 --> 01:37:26,980
We'll just bend the case. No.

1314
01:37:26,980 --> 01:37:29,620
I mean, we can, you just don't want to. Yes. Big difference.

1315
01:37:32,420 --> 01:37:35,740
Dan, do you wanna have me move one more while I do this?

1316
01:37:35,740 --> 01:37:38,500
I, sure.

1317
01:37:39,260 --> 01:37:43,420
Hi there, I've been watching since the days of WAN Show in the garage.

1318
01:37:43,420 --> 01:37:47,540
You once had the Razer Pro backpack. I have one too.

1319
01:37:47,540 --> 01:37:54,140
How does it fare against your own one? And should I consider getting the LDT CompMute one?

1320
01:37:54,140 --> 01:37:56,500
CompMute one. Commuter.

1321
01:37:57,500 --> 01:38:01,860
CompMute. I mean, oh, man.

1322
01:38:01,860 --> 01:38:06,980
Why you guys, it's like you guys want me to have a conflict of interest, you know?

1323
01:38:06,980 --> 01:38:11,540
Like, obviously, it is in my best interest

1324
01:38:11,540 --> 01:38:15,420
to recommend an LDT backpack of some sort,

1325
01:38:15,420 --> 01:38:19,180
be it the OG or the commuter. However, with that said,

1326
01:38:20,260 --> 01:38:24,580
I think you have to ask yourself this question. Uno reverse, are you happy

1327
01:38:24,580 --> 01:38:29,340
with your Razer tactical backpack or whatever? You certainly paid a lot of money for it.

1328
01:38:29,340 --> 01:38:35,340
I can tell you that much if you didn't remember. There were some pain points for me with that bag.

1329
01:38:35,340 --> 01:38:41,460
I didn't love the little flap at the top that made it kind of hard to access the pouch of holding.

1330
01:38:43,460 --> 01:38:48,260
And I'm trying to think, I think the layout of the storage compartments inside

1331
01:38:48,260 --> 01:38:51,860
was not, you know, the greatest thing ever. There were definitely improvements

1332
01:38:51,860 --> 01:38:57,540
that I felt that we could make in our own products. Yes, I believe our product is a better product

1333
01:38:57,540 --> 01:39:03,820
for me having had experience with that bag and then taking that and using it to design our own.

1334
01:39:04,820 --> 01:39:08,620
Or rather to provide feedback on, I can't take credit for designing our backpack.

1335
01:39:08,620 --> 01:39:13,420
That I believe was almost entirely on Bridget.

1336
01:39:13,420 --> 01:39:18,060
I don't know if Matthew had joined us yet at that point. And then Matthew took the lead on the commuter bag

1337
01:39:18,060 --> 01:39:22,780
and did a great job on that. Oh, I might have helped on the OG backpack.

1338
01:39:22,780 --> 01:39:26,820
Anyway, the point is I didn't design the bag, but I did provide a lot of feedback

1339
01:39:26,820 --> 01:39:32,940
and that was based on my experience with other backpacks, including from like OGO, Averki, Razer.

1340
01:39:34,260 --> 01:39:39,260
However, coming back to sort of where

1341
01:39:39,260 --> 01:39:42,300
my original train of thought here, I can't answer that question for you.

1342
01:39:42,300 --> 01:39:45,460
If you're happy with your bag, like what are you doing?

1343
01:39:45,460 --> 01:39:48,580
Don't... Yeah, don't buy another bag. Don't create waste, right?

1344
01:39:48,580 --> 01:39:52,540
Like if you have someone in your life who like could really use your backpack

1345
01:39:52,540 --> 01:39:56,540
and you think that that would be a really great gift for them and you're like, oh yeah,

1346
01:39:56,540 --> 01:40:01,260
and then oh yeah, and I could totally treat myself like, I'm sure I'm totally into that,

1347
01:40:01,860 --> 01:40:07,380
I wouldn't want to encourage anyone to have something go to waste

1348
01:40:07,380 --> 01:40:12,260
just so that they can buy something from our store. I will say the commuter bag was a lot more popular

1349
01:40:12,260 --> 01:40:15,660
with some of my relatives that are smaller than me.

1350
01:40:15,660 --> 01:40:21,820
So I guess it would also depend on, oh my gosh, that is depending on size, that GPU barely fits.

1351
01:40:26,940 --> 01:40:29,980
Wow, that's, yep, that's right there.

1352
01:40:29,980 --> 01:40:34,700
Hey, at least that one intake fan on the bottom dedicated for the GPU.

1353
01:40:34,700 --> 01:40:38,900
Yeah. You are actually creating a barrier to cut off air circulation.

1354
01:40:38,900 --> 01:40:43,980
It's doing work here. Ah, oh man, that also means that I can't put in

1355
01:40:43,980 --> 01:40:48,900
my nice little cover either. Okay, so we don't get to use that.

1356
01:40:49,940 --> 01:40:54,620
Ooh. Is this a mark against the case or because we picked this GPU?

1357
01:40:54,620 --> 01:40:59,500
I mean, yes. The trend for GPUs is to get bigger and bigger.

1358
01:40:59,500 --> 01:41:02,660
And I talked earlier about how, if you're gonna spend $100 on a case,

1359
01:41:02,660 --> 01:41:05,660
I think you should be using it for a couple of systems. Yep.

1360
01:41:05,660 --> 01:41:08,980
So it's, I hate the F word, you know?

1361
01:41:08,980 --> 01:41:12,020
But it's one of those cases that,

1362
01:41:12,020 --> 01:41:15,980
or it's one of those situations where I think that there is an argument to be made around

1363
01:41:15,980 --> 01:41:19,700
trying to be a little future proof. That F word.

1364
01:41:19,700 --> 01:41:25,300
Finally got to it. I was like, oh man, he's gonna drop the F bomb. No, no, I don't have my, I don't have my swear button.

1365
01:41:25,300 --> 01:41:31,700
Oh no. Oh. This peel is in multiple pieces?

1366
01:41:35,260 --> 01:41:39,540
Oh no. You gotta be kidding me here.

1367
01:41:40,540 --> 01:41:45,660
It is. Removing the door might have disturbed it. It is, it's multiple pieces.

1368
01:41:45,660 --> 01:41:51,820
The not door. Oh dude, there's two more.

1369
01:41:51,820 --> 01:41:55,340
Starting to see the build experience go down slowly in front of my eyes.

1370
01:41:55,340 --> 01:41:58,620
Slowly. Every peel is one point.

1371
01:42:01,260 --> 01:42:05,580
And it's like, it's like tucked. It's tucked, that's tucked up.

1372
01:42:08,060 --> 01:42:11,140
Here, you try. Do the last one. Where is it?

1373
01:42:11,140 --> 01:42:14,500
You'll see what I mean. Which one? It's the far one. Oh, okay.

1374
01:42:16,500 --> 01:42:19,500
I don't like when you make me do things on camera like this.

1375
01:42:19,500 --> 01:42:22,820
Oh yeah, I see what you mean. It's like, it's like tucked back there.

1376
01:42:22,820 --> 01:42:26,580
I mean, to be clear, it's a one, you're only gonna do it one time. It's not the end of the world.

1377
01:42:26,580 --> 01:42:29,780
It's just like, why though? Have it, half of people, okay.

1378
01:42:29,780 --> 01:42:33,420
I'm sure there's a reason. I'm sure there's a reason. All right, come up with one.

1379
01:42:37,220 --> 01:42:40,940
Cool. It's easier to apply at the factory as four different pieces.

1380
01:42:42,220 --> 01:42:45,420
That's, I don't. That's not my problem. I don't like big Corpo.

1381
01:42:45,420 --> 01:42:50,220
You don't like big, why do you work for one then? It's funny, you say you hate modern,

1382
01:42:50,220 --> 01:42:53,580
capitalistic society and yet you participate in it. I do.

1383
01:42:53,580 --> 01:42:57,220
Checkmate liberal. LTTstore.com. Shell!

1384
01:42:59,180 --> 01:43:01,220
Bye. I should be wearing boots.

1385
01:43:07,540 --> 01:43:11,140
We are always corporate shell. We always respect company,

1386
01:43:12,140 --> 01:43:15,340
like sponsor Valkyrie of the stream. Thank you, Valkyrie.

1387
01:43:20,780 --> 01:43:24,300
It's a good thing we don't say stuff like this at the beginning of our streams.

1388
01:43:24,300 --> 01:43:29,220
They've turned out they're like, they hit their talking points, I'm joking. I mean, yeah, there can't be that many people.

1389
01:43:29,220 --> 01:43:32,580
Oh wow, there's still like thousands and thousands of people watching.

1390
01:43:32,580 --> 01:43:35,820
Huh, okay, well. It's all bots. You think so?

1391
01:43:35,820 --> 01:43:39,460
Yeah, okay. I have it bought on right now, so. Do you? Yeah.

1392
01:43:39,460 --> 01:43:44,100
I want that ad revenue. Okay, you do know that, okay, should you know what?

1393
01:43:44,100 --> 01:43:47,980
Good job, Elijah. Oh, is that it? I mean, oh.

1394
01:43:47,980 --> 01:43:51,460
Okay, I guess we should go over pricing and like all the numbers and everything.

1395
01:43:51,460 --> 01:43:54,660
Well. We start with features. I feel like we didn't get anything.

1396
01:43:54,660 --> 01:44:00,100
I feel like it was a pretty bare bones case. I mean, it's got this SSD mount across the back here

1397
01:44:00,100 --> 01:44:03,700
that you can move out of the way if you need to mount a motherboard back plate.

1398
01:44:06,060 --> 01:44:07,500
I'll support for back to front.

1399
01:44:09,060 --> 01:44:12,220
I feel like this is like a five right in line of just like it's bare minimum.

1400
01:44:12,220 --> 01:44:16,580
Yeah, it's $100. It's like what I would consider to be like

1401
01:44:16,580 --> 01:44:21,460
the kind of attainable price for if you're doing like a thousand, $1,300 build.

1402
01:44:24,020 --> 01:44:27,140
But it's not gonna like blow me away and it's also not gonna,

1403
01:44:27,140 --> 01:44:30,340
I'm not gonna look at it and go, man, you're crazy. You know?

1404
01:44:30,340 --> 01:44:34,020
Yeah, sure. Five. Five for price. Building experience.

1405
01:44:35,100 --> 01:44:38,260
I think it was better than the Q300L.

1406
01:44:38,260 --> 01:44:40,860
Yeah, but that literally has L in the name.

1407
01:44:41,980 --> 01:44:45,260
This says C. It's its letter grade. Okay.

1408
01:44:45,260 --> 01:44:50,020
So a five. Okay, what did I give the rest for building experience?

1409
01:44:50,020 --> 01:44:53,500
You gave. I'd give it a six. I'd give it a C. All right.

1410
01:44:54,620 --> 01:44:57,900
Fractal new. Fractal new what they had on their hands.

1411
01:44:57,900 --> 01:45:02,260
Cable management out of five. It had some tie down points in the back.

1412
01:45:02,260 --> 01:45:05,060
Yeah. And you know what?

1413
01:45:05,980 --> 01:45:09,020
I think it would have ended up with a pretty solid score, right?

1414
01:45:09,020 --> 01:45:12,700
Like if you look at this, that's pretty clean.

1415
01:45:12,700 --> 01:45:15,820
That's a clean looking system. Okay, you know, let's be fair.

1416
01:45:15,820 --> 01:45:19,260
It's not all of them had white cables here, right? Like the ones with the black cables

1417
01:45:19,260 --> 01:45:22,460
that they'd hide a little bit more, right? So, you know, that is what it is.

1418
01:45:22,460 --> 01:45:25,500
But this is all, this is all pretty good. Everything's, you know, this is grommeted

1419
01:45:25,500 --> 01:45:30,140
all down the side, which is nice. But then in order to fit our GPU,

1420
01:45:30,140 --> 01:45:33,460
we had to open this up. And if you really open it up, Andrew,

1421
01:45:33,460 --> 01:45:36,440
like really give her, really give her.

1422
01:45:38,700 --> 01:45:42,660
Dead. Yeah. You see what I'm talking about?

1423
01:45:42,660 --> 01:45:46,880
And I can hide that, but like not perfectly.

1424
01:45:48,540 --> 01:45:51,540
And so I don't want, I'm not getting too hard

1425
01:45:51,580 --> 01:45:53,660
on anyone about the backside.

1426
01:45:57,780 --> 01:46:03,300
All the other ones. Okay, other than the $40 case, but it's $40.

1427
01:46:03,300 --> 01:46:07,140
All the other ones in the hundred-ish dollar price point are way cleaner.

1428
01:46:07,140 --> 01:46:10,660
Those got a four out of five. So do you think this is a three then?

1429
01:46:10,660 --> 01:46:16,620
I'll dock a point. Okay. Three out of five. Three out of five. And that price, $100.

1430
01:46:16,620 --> 01:46:20,180
Oh, five. All right. You know, yeah, like it's,

1431
01:46:20,180 --> 01:46:25,300
and the reason that we're going five rather than six. So we're basically saying same as the Corsair frame,

1432
01:46:25,300 --> 01:46:30,180
even though it's actually $10 cheaper, is that I just don't feel like the value is there.

1433
01:46:30,180 --> 01:46:33,260
And as much as you can try to decouple price from value

1434
01:46:33,260 --> 01:46:39,060
by sort of outlining value in all these other ways, I don't think you can ever fully separate them.

1435
01:46:39,060 --> 01:46:42,660
Is there any bonuses? What would you give a bonus for?

1436
01:46:42,660 --> 01:46:47,220
I feel like I, I feel like I kind of turn this around on you every time. But it's really interesting to hear your perspective

1437
01:46:47,220 --> 01:46:49,580
because you've been kind of sitting here watching me build the whole time.

1438
01:46:51,060 --> 01:46:56,660
And helping and helping. I think like, but that kind of goes into the building experience, but overall it was just like,

1439
01:46:56,660 --> 01:47:01,060
you didn't have really much to say. So maybe that's a bonus because then it didn't,

1440
01:47:01,060 --> 01:47:04,220
nothing got in your way other than. Approachable, basic.

1441
01:47:04,220 --> 01:47:07,580
Yeah. Like you said, it could be like that YouTube tutorial style.

1442
01:47:07,580 --> 01:47:10,740
Yeah. This is the default case. The default case.

1443
01:47:10,740 --> 01:47:13,860
So that makes it easy to understand. You're not going to get anything unique

1444
01:47:13,860 --> 01:47:16,540
that might confuse you. So maybe a one.

1445
01:47:17,540 --> 01:47:21,620
Yeah. I could give it, I could give it one bonus point. Yeah. I think that's a solid argument.

1446
01:47:21,620 --> 01:47:25,540
Look at this panel gap. Look at this. Can you see that?

1447
01:47:25,540 --> 01:47:29,540
I mean, it kind of makes me feel like it must be upside down, but I think it's symmetrical.

1448
01:47:29,540 --> 01:47:32,580
And if it's not symmetrical, that's a crazy design.

1449
01:47:32,580 --> 01:47:36,980
But like, are you seeing how big this gap is here? Hold on. Let me get the,

1450
01:47:36,980 --> 01:47:38,780
let me get the peel out of your way.

1451
01:47:41,220 --> 01:47:44,900
Can you see that? Give her more. Give her, give her even more.

1452
01:47:45,860 --> 01:47:51,540
Yeah. There you go. Yeah. You can really see that now. There's just like, there's a gap there. I can like stick a little bit of my finger in there.

1453
01:47:53,100 --> 01:47:56,620
Should I flip it around? I'll flip it around. Sure. I'm going to flip it around.

1454
01:47:56,620 --> 01:48:01,180
Cost nothing to flip it around. I mean. That got a 20, which now means it's in third.

1455
01:48:01,180 --> 01:48:04,300
So it actually beat the Q300L by one point,

1456
01:48:05,820 --> 01:48:09,620
but it is four points behind the frame by Corsair

1457
01:48:09,620 --> 01:48:13,780
and over 10 points behind the Lee and Lee. You guys got to let me know.

1458
01:48:13,900 --> 01:48:17,020
Yeah. No, the panel gap is just as bad this time.

1459
01:48:17,020 --> 01:48:20,220
You guys got to let me know. Do you think we're being totally unfair here?

1460
01:48:20,220 --> 01:48:24,860
Like if I hadn't, I got to tell you the order, the order of judging matters.

1461
01:48:24,860 --> 01:48:28,660
Cause if I hadn't seen those other two, I'd have been like, oh, it was pretty nice case.

1462
01:48:28,660 --> 01:48:33,940
Well, that's what I was talking about when we were ranking the Lee and Lee. Like we ranked that right after the Q300.

1463
01:48:33,940 --> 01:48:36,980
So it's kind of like, are you just very happy

1464
01:48:36,980 --> 01:48:40,580
because the Q300 had none of this? Right?

1465
01:48:41,580 --> 01:48:44,140
Yeah, is that a problem? But.

1466
01:48:46,980 --> 01:48:51,940
People, law is not merchandise. People are not really, people are saying, yeah, seems fair.

1467
01:48:51,940 --> 01:48:54,980
All right. All right. Yep.

1468
01:48:54,980 --> 01:48:57,980
Cool. Fair is probably the best word I could use to describe it.

1469
01:48:57,980 --> 01:49:01,540
You want to boot it up? It's fair. Fair. We can see all the RGB.

1470
01:49:01,540 --> 01:49:04,860
It's all, is that definitely how it's gonna be?

1471
01:49:04,860 --> 01:49:09,060
Yeah. That's how it's meant to be. I flipped it around, dude. I promise.

1472
01:49:09,060 --> 01:49:12,340
I promise I flipped it around. That's what it looks like.

1473
01:49:12,340 --> 01:49:14,860
I'm sorry. Should be good to go? I'm sorry.

1474
01:49:17,100 --> 01:49:20,460
Oh, back to wide. Oh, oh, rip.

1475
01:49:20,460 --> 01:49:23,060
Rip. Gigi's chat, it's over.

1476
01:49:25,740 --> 01:49:27,960
Pretty janky five says stop the count.

1477
01:49:30,620 --> 01:49:35,860
It's an old case, it's V1. Yeah, but that doesn't change that they want $100.

1478
01:49:35,860 --> 01:49:40,140
And that also doesn't change that this is right now on B&H. And it's still the most popular one

1479
01:49:40,140 --> 01:49:43,580
that's B&H. That's rated on B&H. Absolutely. Yeah.

1480
01:49:43,580 --> 01:49:47,340
So, it's a cool looking case for $100 and end up with that.

1481
01:49:47,340 --> 01:49:50,340
Yeah. You'd be much better off, I think,

1482
01:49:50,340 --> 01:49:53,700
buying either the Land Cool or spending $10 more on the Corsair frame.

1483
01:49:53,700 --> 01:49:57,180
No question. That CPU cooler looks sick. It does, right?

1484
01:49:59,060 --> 01:50:03,620
Shadow of, shadow of, yeah. Do you want to get a little close up on the CPU cooler?

1485
01:50:03,620 --> 01:50:07,100
Oh, he's back. And he's gone. Oh, and he's back. Nice.

1486
01:50:07,100 --> 01:50:11,340
Nice. Yeah. Did you even notice that the little, like, actual name

1487
01:50:11,340 --> 01:50:15,100
lights up, too? Yeah, that's why I had to have the, the daisy change.

1488
01:50:15,100 --> 01:50:18,780
Oh, it's a subtle detail. Looks good, though.

1489
01:50:18,780 --> 01:50:22,220
I like it. Whoops. All right, last one.

1490
01:50:22,220 --> 01:50:25,460
I saw someone in chat suggesting that we do a bit of a roll reversal.

1491
01:50:25,460 --> 01:50:28,980
Okay. And I watch while you do it. I don't feel that's fair, though,

1492
01:50:28,980 --> 01:50:33,100
because you've been building the other ones to get your experience so you can give it a fair score.

1493
01:50:33,100 --> 01:50:36,740
All right, well, let chat decide. I'd love to build it, but I don't want to compromise

1494
01:50:36,740 --> 01:50:40,700
the integrity of this test. Okay.

1495
01:50:40,700 --> 01:50:44,020
Drop stuff. Someone like me.

1496
01:50:44,020 --> 01:50:50,180
All right. I'm also not good at building PCs, so. I gotta admit, guys, if there was anyone

1497
01:50:50,180 --> 01:50:54,620
that I kind of went into this going, these guys are gonna blow it away.

1498
01:50:54,620 --> 01:50:59,740
It's gotta be Phanteks. They just came out of absolutely nowhere,

1499
01:50:59,740 --> 01:51:04,740
innovated like crazy, just at amazing price points.

1500
01:51:05,460 --> 01:51:09,820
They really nailed the look with a lot of their earlier cases.

1501
01:51:09,820 --> 01:51:13,420
And then over time, it's just especially nailed down

1502
01:51:13,420 --> 01:51:15,580
the little quality of life features.

1503
01:51:16,620 --> 01:51:20,900
There's a reason that we chose Phanteks for our standardized cases

1504
01:51:20,900 --> 01:51:24,300
for our in-house systems back in the day.

1505
01:51:24,300 --> 01:51:26,160
Super easy to build in.

1506
01:51:29,180 --> 01:51:32,900
Oh, and it didn't even zap me. Nice. That's probably a coincidence, though.

1507
01:51:32,900 --> 01:51:37,100
The best packing we've seen, so questionable. So what's good about it

1508
01:51:37,100 --> 01:51:40,340
is the additional layer of cardboard to add a little bit more puncture protection

1509
01:51:40,340 --> 01:51:44,220
on the corners, and in the areas that are most likely to get hit,

1510
01:51:44,220 --> 01:51:48,460
and they are using a softer foam that's more likely to take two hits,

1511
01:51:48,460 --> 01:51:53,580
but it's quite thin. So probably better than what we've seen so far,

1512
01:51:53,580 --> 01:51:58,940
but not up to a standard where you could build a system in it and then ship that system in the case box

1513
01:51:58,940 --> 01:52:03,300
and hope that it's gonna arrive in in peace. Do you wanna see what the pole Dan made was?

1514
01:52:03,300 --> 01:52:06,620
No, he doesn't get to read them. What pole did he make? He says,

1515
01:52:06,620 --> 01:52:09,780
Humstensst, and Narcissist, or Bruises.

1516
01:52:13,460 --> 01:52:19,300
Who's who? That's the type of service that you get

1517
01:52:19,980 --> 01:52:23,580
on flipblane.com, you can have Dan Poles, and they're always unhinged.

1518
01:52:24,460 --> 01:52:27,900
Right out of the gate. I didn't include Firefox. Right out of the gate,

1519
01:52:27,900 --> 01:52:31,440
Phanteks is looking pretty darn good.

1520
01:52:31,440 --> 01:52:35,280
They've got the roominess factor that we enjoyed with the Corsair,

1521
01:52:35,280 --> 01:52:38,980
maybe not quite as much space back here for cable management,

1522
01:52:38,980 --> 01:52:43,320
but certainly quite a lot. They've got the simplicity.

1523
01:52:43,320 --> 01:52:46,660
This is a very bog standard looking layout.

1524
01:52:46,660 --> 01:52:50,080
So they've got the simplicity of the Fractal Meshify-C,

1525
01:52:50,080 --> 01:52:55,080
and they're going after the value of the Land Cool,

1526
01:52:56,040 --> 01:52:59,860
because check this out. I'm counting not one, not two, not three,

1527
01:52:59,860 --> 01:53:04,780
but four included RGB fans at a price of $89.99.

1528
01:53:04,780 --> 01:53:08,420
This is the most popular case on newegg.com

1529
01:53:08,420 --> 01:53:10,780
as of the time of us placing our orders.

1530
01:53:12,180 --> 01:53:15,420
I think they're off to an extremely good start.

1531
01:53:15,420 --> 01:53:20,420
We do give up one of our USB-A 3.0 ports,

1532
01:53:21,020 --> 01:53:27,020
but in exchange, it looks like we had a bit of a tooling revision that gave us a USB-C port

1533
01:53:27,020 --> 01:53:30,700
in what appears to have used to have been a USB-A port.

1534
01:53:30,700 --> 01:53:35,360
So that's clever. That's a clever way to add a lower cost,

1535
01:53:35,360 --> 01:53:39,020
provide, I would say, most of the meaningful benefit

1536
01:53:39,020 --> 01:53:44,020
of the front USB layout of the,

1537
01:53:45,260 --> 01:53:49,980
here we go, the Land Cool case, which has, I believe, two A's and a C.

1538
01:53:49,980 --> 01:53:54,340
Yes, and the Corsair case, which also has two A's and a C.

1539
01:53:55,340 --> 01:53:59,580
Having the C allows you to use like a hub or a dock or something like that

1540
01:53:59,580 --> 01:54:05,100
right on the front of your case, which I think is really convenient. And then the A is just, it's a utility plug, you know?

1541
01:54:05,100 --> 01:54:10,260
They voted for Linus. Are they voted for me building? Okay, well, I already started, I guess, so there you go.

1542
01:54:10,260 --> 01:54:13,820
It's back-to-front compatible, so you've got all the punch-outs.

1543
01:54:14,820 --> 01:54:19,100
And I don't know if you guys saw this in the news, but ASUS just uploaded a thing

1544
01:54:19,100 --> 01:54:24,620
where they validated their back-to-front implementation for GPUs that, I think, 1,000 watts,

1545
01:54:24,620 --> 01:54:28,020
demonstrating that it is a far better approach

1546
01:54:28,020 --> 01:54:32,100
to super high-power GPUs from just a power delivery standpoint

1547
01:54:32,100 --> 01:54:39,060
compared to the 12-volt two-by-six connector, which even under its optimistic rated load

1548
01:54:39,060 --> 01:54:40,900
manages 600 watts.

1549
01:54:43,300 --> 01:54:49,180
What it doesn't manage to achieve is the same kind of tear everything off,

1550
01:54:49,180 --> 01:54:54,620
super easy access of the Corsair. That's something that I obviously commented on

1551
01:54:54,620 --> 01:55:01,060
when I was building in the Corsair, but maybe didn't fully appreciate how much I liked

1552
01:55:01,060 --> 01:55:02,700
until now I'm without it.

1553
01:55:05,660 --> 01:55:09,700
89.99, though. That's the same price as the Lee and Lee, right?

1554
01:55:09,700 --> 01:55:12,340
Right in line with the Landcool from Lee and Lee, yep.

1555
01:55:13,540 --> 01:55:16,300
They haven't put as much work into it for me, though.

1556
01:55:17,700 --> 01:55:20,420
You know, these fans are daisy-chained,

1557
01:55:21,420 --> 01:55:24,980
which is nice. Hold on, where's this going?

1558
01:55:24,980 --> 01:55:29,620
Oh, man, but there, oh yeah, no, there we go. Okay, so these fans are pre-daisy-chained

1559
01:55:29,620 --> 01:55:34,540
and they're kinda hooked up here, but this is all just kinda dumped.

1560
01:55:34,540 --> 01:55:39,860
And when I compare that to the way that the front audio connector was run for me in the,

1561
01:55:41,020 --> 01:55:45,380
I believe that was in the Corsair. Yeah, that was really nice.

1562
01:55:45,380 --> 01:55:49,900
And that's what Corsair does. Corsair has the way that they intend for you

1563
01:55:49,900 --> 01:55:53,580
to build in their cases and they really make it hard to screw up.

1564
01:55:55,460 --> 01:56:01,020
Fan techs, this is a nice bonus. They have an IQ test that they bundle with the case.

1565
01:56:01,020 --> 01:56:02,660
Can you get the hardware box out?

1566
01:56:08,900 --> 01:56:13,060
This just is a thumbscrew in here, but yeah, it's not immediately apparent. Oh, I thought maybe it was one of those ones

1567
01:56:13,060 --> 01:56:17,340
where you have to like go at the ball. Oh, I see the thumbscrew. I went at it from a wrong angle.

1568
01:56:17,340 --> 01:56:19,700
I kinda did it on purpose, yeah.

1569
01:56:20,660 --> 01:56:24,020
Guys, I'm really good at some things, please. There we go.

1570
01:56:24,020 --> 01:56:28,180
So you can pull that out a little. No, I'm still having a hard time getting it out.

1571
01:56:30,580 --> 01:56:33,780
Come on, buddy. Come on, fan techs.

1572
01:56:33,780 --> 01:56:37,740
Ah, there we go. That's a little disappointing.

1573
01:56:37,740 --> 01:56:44,180
Fan techs was like the OG Includer of a nice little parts tray.

1574
01:56:44,180 --> 01:56:47,620
And wow, is that ever a lot of cable ties.

1575
01:56:48,620 --> 01:56:52,540
Dude. This is wild.

1576
01:56:52,540 --> 01:56:56,420
I think fan techs included more cable ties than every other case,

1577
01:56:56,420 --> 01:56:59,340
plus the ones that were included with the power supply combined.

1578
01:57:02,820 --> 01:57:08,380
That is a substantial amount of cable ties. I will use every single one of them.

1579
01:57:08,380 --> 01:57:10,020
Streams go until 7 p.m. guys.

1580
01:57:13,140 --> 01:57:16,460
Don't worry, don't worry, I got this place. Everyone's gonna be out of here on time.

1581
01:57:16,540 --> 01:57:17,740
Cause we have soft balls tonight.

1582
01:57:20,740 --> 01:57:25,180
Do you guys like have to watch? They've been here the whole time.

1583
01:57:25,180 --> 01:57:28,620
Is this, oh, is this just like hurry up and wait kind of thing?

1584
01:57:28,620 --> 01:57:32,620
Huh? Well, Sven's first sponsor. He got you two pens.

1585
01:57:32,620 --> 01:57:37,020
Oh, yeah, nice. I love that shirt.

1586
01:57:41,420 --> 01:57:44,180
He said it was $10 at Value Village. Ten bucks?

1587
01:57:45,260 --> 01:57:48,580
Wow. That is so cool.

1588
01:57:48,580 --> 01:57:54,060
We got like Blaze, Ultros. We've got Mog, and, oh man,

1589
01:57:54,060 --> 01:57:57,300
how can I not remember? Oh, no, don't tell me, don't tell me.

1590
01:57:57,300 --> 01:58:00,980
Oh, oh no, Tom Berry. Thank you.

1591
01:58:02,300 --> 01:58:06,020
Thank you for letting me live. This is so cool.

1592
01:58:07,740 --> 01:58:11,900
Ten bucks. Who'd have thought?

1593
01:58:12,900 --> 01:58:16,820
Oh, yeah, sorry, sorry, sorry. No, no, no, we're gonna finish on time.

1594
01:58:16,820 --> 01:58:20,580
Everybody's gonna get out of here on time today. We have to go to softball. We have softball tonight?

1595
01:58:20,580 --> 01:58:23,580
Yes. Oh, are you guys going to softball? We should go to softball?

1596
01:58:23,580 --> 01:58:27,740
Yes, sir. I'm gonna go to five, so I'm gonna jump for it. Oh, all right, that's, okay.

1597
01:58:27,740 --> 01:58:32,620
Finally, my first softball, I've missed the first two. No, no, well, okay, he's come in previous years.

1598
01:58:32,620 --> 01:58:36,340
Yeah, I missed the first two this year. Yeah. Dude, I love softball tonight.

1599
01:58:36,340 --> 01:58:40,060
Heck yeah. Oh, I'm stoked. I'm so excited.

1600
01:58:40,060 --> 01:58:45,020
Oh, I'm stoked. I think softball night might be my favorite thing

1601
01:58:45,020 --> 01:58:49,060
about working here. You have a frickin' Porsche.

1602
01:58:51,020 --> 01:58:54,220
And I drive it to softball night.

1603
01:58:54,220 --> 01:58:59,700
Has ample space in the trunk for my baseball gun. I mean, if you want, I could take the $15,000 TV

1604
01:58:59,700 --> 01:59:04,820
in your basement. When I was gonna try to take home that 110-1

1605
01:59:04,820 --> 01:59:08,500
from the Christmas party, I called my strata, which is basically-

1606
01:59:08,500 --> 01:59:13,300
When he was trying to win it. Yeah, when I was trying to win it at our Christmas party. So it was the 110-high sense.

1607
01:59:13,300 --> 01:59:15,420
We raffled it at the Christmas party.

1608
01:59:16,740 --> 01:59:20,860
I called my strata, which is basically HOA for my apartment building.

1609
01:59:20,860 --> 01:59:23,940
And I was like, am I allowed to rent a crane

1610
01:59:23,940 --> 01:59:27,740
because it won't fit in the elevator? So I'd have to remove my railing.

1611
01:59:27,740 --> 01:59:31,980
You know what the president said? He said, only if I can watch one football game on it.

1612
01:59:31,980 --> 01:59:36,620
And I said, done. So I put all my tickets into it and I didn't win.

1613
01:59:36,620 --> 01:59:41,020
And I was so mad. Dude, there were so many tickets on that TV.

1614
01:59:41,020 --> 01:59:46,300
I still kind of can't believe we gave that away. But the price of renting a crane to move it in there

1615
01:59:46,300 --> 01:59:51,780
and then in like three years, if I move out, was still cheaper than buying that TV.

1616
01:59:51,780 --> 01:59:54,300
So I was like, I am doing this if I win.

1617
01:59:56,700 --> 02:00:00,020
Who ended up winning it again? Ashley from CW?

1618
02:00:00,020 --> 02:00:04,740
That's right, that's right. Lucky. Yeah, I was lucky to have-

1619
02:00:04,740 --> 02:00:07,260
I was chapped. Oh well.

1620
02:00:07,980 --> 02:00:11,860
Hey, who knows? We might have cool stuff this year. I haven't seen anything that big

1621
02:00:11,860 --> 02:00:16,980
that's likely to make it to the Christmas party. Well, thankfully we actually have five

1622
02:00:16,980 --> 02:00:21,380
Asrock Tai Chi RX9070 XTs now.

1623
02:00:21,380 --> 02:00:24,740
And five 9,800 X3Ds. I gotta be honest with you.

1624
02:00:24,740 --> 02:00:28,780
The computer hardware stuff is not the stuff that gets the traffic.

1625
02:00:28,780 --> 02:00:33,940
Oh yeah, those are like some of the easy ones though to like win if you like want to walk away

1626
02:00:33,940 --> 02:00:37,180
with something at the Christmas party. We already all have computers.

1627
02:00:37,180 --> 02:00:41,340
That's the other thing too. Yeah, whereas like a lot of the time

1628
02:00:41,340 --> 02:00:44,980
if there's like a pixel or an iPhone, you'll get a ton of people putting in for that.

1629
02:00:44,980 --> 02:00:51,180
We've had like vacation packages and stuff like that. People go wild for like the vacation packages.

1630
02:00:51,180 --> 02:00:55,180
Two years in a row, I've given Jake Bell one of my tickets

1631
02:00:55,180 --> 02:01:00,100
and he's won for me both times. This year he won me those like Hot Wheels rally things

1632
02:01:00,100 --> 02:01:04,780
that you can control from your phone. Oh yeah, that's cool. And I was like, I don't want it.

1633
02:01:04,780 --> 02:01:08,900
So I gave it to some kid who was like going through

1634
02:01:08,900 --> 02:01:12,300
some illness and I was like, it's yours now. I don't want it. Like I'm not going to play with it.

1635
02:01:12,300 --> 02:01:16,140
You can have fun with it. I want to know how it's prepared.

1636
02:01:16,140 --> 02:01:19,780
Oh yeah. Oh, you got that. Yeah. Nice.

1637
02:01:19,780 --> 02:01:22,300
I was trying. You won a six sound bar. I was trying.

1638
02:01:24,140 --> 02:01:29,900
That was a pretty sick sound bar dude. Like I know, sound bars are for posers.

1639
02:01:29,900 --> 02:01:33,700
But it's a $4,000 sound bar. Pretty nice sound bar.

1640
02:01:35,780 --> 02:01:37,780
Basically, yeah, Rhys doesn't want to hear it.

1641
02:01:40,420 --> 02:01:45,340
He can't hear your elitism over the sound

1642
02:01:45,340 --> 02:01:47,540
of his $4,000 sound bar.

1643
02:01:50,420 --> 02:01:54,940
Is there any merch messages, Dan? Yeah, there's a few. Why don't we save them for a bit?

1644
02:01:54,940 --> 02:01:58,980
Unless you do need a break right now. Sure. Yeah, hit me with one.

1645
02:01:58,980 --> 02:02:04,220
Hit me with one. Sure. And just to keep Dan busy, send a few more merch messages.

1646
02:02:04,340 --> 02:02:08,580
This is our last PC case, so get your questions in. This is the time to get your merch messages in

1647
02:02:08,580 --> 02:02:13,380
if you guys aren't familiar with the concept of merch messages. Merch messages are the way to interact with the show.

1648
02:02:13,380 --> 02:02:16,820
We don't believe that you should throw your money at your screen and get nothing in return.

1649
02:02:16,820 --> 02:02:22,100
No, you should throw your money at your screen to interact with the stream and get quality merchandise

1650
02:02:22,100 --> 02:02:25,100
from LTTstore.com in return.

1651
02:02:25,100 --> 02:02:29,180
So all you got to do is head to LTTstore.com, find something you like, throw it in your cart,

1652
02:02:29,180 --> 02:02:32,980
and you will see a box pop up when we're live that allows you to leave a merch message.

1653
02:02:32,980 --> 02:02:35,980
We'll go to producer Dan, who will throw it

1654
02:02:35,980 --> 02:02:39,140
onto the screen or answer it himself.

1655
02:02:39,140 --> 02:02:42,380
Sometimes even correctly, that's a bonus when that happens.

1656
02:02:42,380 --> 02:02:45,940
And then other times, he will curate it for me and Elijah

1657
02:02:45,940 --> 02:02:48,940
to answer for you.

1658
02:02:48,940 --> 02:02:53,060
Hit us, Dan. Sure thing. Hey, hottie Linus.

1659
02:02:53,060 --> 02:02:56,140
If you decide to keep the bread, what

1660
02:02:56,140 --> 02:02:59,580
would be your daily routine to manage the bread and keep it in shape?

1661
02:02:59,580 --> 02:03:02,900
PS, would we get any new breaded Linus merch?

1662
02:03:02,900 --> 02:03:07,420
A t-shirt or a new pin? And then an emoji of a bread.

1663
02:03:07,420 --> 02:03:12,380
See, here's the thing. When we said hit us, how about you don't ask us those ones?

1664
02:03:12,380 --> 02:03:16,900
What color is your? OK, yeah, sorry, continue.

1665
02:03:16,900 --> 02:03:21,620
You've gone and made it weird. You did that.

1666
02:03:21,620 --> 02:03:28,140
You made it weird, and you enabled them. I'm dying at that one, Dan.

1667
02:03:28,140 --> 02:03:31,100
That's the face of a man with no regrets whatsoever.

1668
02:03:32,900 --> 02:03:37,420
No regrets. I don't know that we'll have any more beard merch.

1669
02:03:40,020 --> 02:03:43,300
I just read when it comes out of my screen. You can curate them.

1670
02:03:43,300 --> 02:03:47,220
You can move it on. Yeah, you literally screened them. That is literally your job.

1671
02:03:47,220 --> 02:03:50,500
I did that. I did my job.

1672
02:03:50,500 --> 02:03:54,420
He's just like hottie Linus approved. Hottie Linus.

1673
02:03:54,420 --> 02:03:57,660
Weird way to put it. I need to get your stuff ready.

1674
02:03:57,660 --> 02:04:00,900
Sorry, I got distracted. It's haite.

1675
02:04:00,900 --> 02:04:04,780
H-A-W-I-T-E. Maybe I misread that.

1676
02:04:04,780 --> 02:04:10,860
Yeah, I'm sure that was it. Anyway, probably no more merch.

1677
02:04:10,860 --> 02:04:14,860
I forget the rest of the question. What was the question, Dan? Something about how you would take care of your beard.

1678
02:04:14,860 --> 02:04:18,580
Oh, how I take care of my beard. Not very much.

1679
02:04:18,580 --> 02:04:22,620
He said bread. They were talking about the beard. They were talking about the beard.

1680
02:04:22,620 --> 02:04:30,140
Not very much, to be honest with you. I just, once a week, it actually is about exactly the amount

1681
02:04:30,140 --> 02:04:33,180
of work as being not bearded is,

1682
02:04:33,180 --> 02:04:37,460
because I have to shave every day, if I want to be clean shaven, obviously.

1683
02:04:37,460 --> 02:04:41,900
I just use like a stupid, like actually,

1684
02:04:41,900 --> 02:04:45,940
no, there's nothing stupid about Phillips shavers now.

1685
02:04:45,940 --> 02:04:49,300
Do you see they're cool, like right to repair? I did, yep.

1686
02:04:49,300 --> 02:04:53,420
Absolutely based Phillips electric shaver.

1687
02:04:53,420 --> 02:04:56,860
And so I just do that once a day. And then when I have the beard,

1688
02:04:56,860 --> 02:05:02,580
I just have this cheap garbage. I'm gonna buy a Phillips. There, I'm gonna buy a Phillips trimmer.

1689
02:05:02,580 --> 02:05:06,580
And then I just hit it once a week with like a number,

1690
02:05:06,580 --> 02:05:12,580
whatever, the one that's already on it, that is literally still sitting on it

1691
02:05:12,580 --> 02:05:16,220
from last time I had a beard. So I don't even remember.

1692
02:05:16,220 --> 02:05:19,580
So just like hit it with that and then kind of clean up the neck a little bit.

1693
02:05:19,580 --> 02:05:25,900
And like, I know people get like really into it and they got like these oils and they got like combs

1694
02:05:25,900 --> 02:05:29,780
and like, like all this stuff. This is like eight weeks.

1695
02:05:32,020 --> 02:05:35,180
Okay, he's joking obviously. Have you ever tried to grow a beard?

1696
02:05:35,180 --> 02:05:39,300
Yeah, it just, it grows in patches and it just, it looks terrible.

1697
02:05:39,300 --> 02:05:42,540
It's already pretty bad. Can't, don't, I don't know. What, I'm just asking.

1698
02:05:42,540 --> 02:05:45,540
Do I have a shadow? Is there beard here?

1699
02:05:45,540 --> 02:05:48,580
You know what? It looks like a tiny bit, but that could also be the lighting.

1700
02:05:48,580 --> 02:05:53,540
That's from like this morning. Okay. Bruh, that's like seven weeks, literally.

1701
02:05:53,540 --> 02:05:57,060
Yeah, this is like from seven hours ago.

1702
02:05:57,060 --> 02:05:59,020
So Elijah, how old are you?

1703
02:06:00,420 --> 02:06:03,780
27. Okay, when I was your age,

1704
02:06:03,780 --> 02:06:07,260
I 100% was probably like, I can't. Yeah, I can't, yeah.

1705
02:06:07,260 --> 02:06:13,500
Like it, the reason that I had never grown a beard before COVID was because I 100% couldn't.

1706
02:06:13,500 --> 02:06:18,540
Yeah. So I'm just saying, I'm just saying, you might be a late bloomer.

1707
02:06:18,540 --> 02:06:22,060
We all knew that already though. I'm just, I'm just saying.

1708
02:06:22,060 --> 02:06:26,140
The six concussions have not helped. I'm just saying you might be a late bloomer.

1709
02:06:26,140 --> 02:06:30,220
Sorry, what's the theory here that hitting your head like knocked the hair back into the face?

1710
02:06:30,220 --> 02:06:33,580
No, late bloomer just being like taking it's time. Oh, that's not, no, no, no.

1711
02:06:33,580 --> 02:06:37,540
That's not what it, it doesn't always mean that. Oh. Late bloomer has all kinds of contexts.

1712
02:06:37,540 --> 02:06:38,740
Like it could be sexual.

1713
02:06:43,700 --> 02:06:47,700
How do we, I don't know how to ask the next question. So I think I'm going to stop asking.

1714
02:06:47,700 --> 02:06:51,060
You could ask Ariana. Didn't you go home for the day?

1715
02:06:51,060 --> 02:06:54,300
HRQ please, ask it, you're fine.

1716
02:06:54,300 --> 02:06:58,780
They went home. That's how it works, right? Oh yeah, once HR leaves the building, there's.

1717
02:06:58,780 --> 02:07:02,300
Not that we're recording and streaming this to like four different platforms.

1718
02:07:02,300 --> 02:07:05,500
You know what, I say ask it. I say go for it. You only live once Elijah.

1719
02:07:05,500 --> 02:07:09,460
I was going to ask how, like how would I find out if I'm a late bloomer sexually?

1720
02:07:11,380 --> 02:07:15,700
I mean, I think the answer is yes. In your case you could ask your wife.

1721
02:07:15,700 --> 02:07:19,140
She'd probably know. I am married, I forgot.

1722
02:07:20,140 --> 02:07:23,740
It's just an idea. It's just an idea.

1723
02:07:23,740 --> 02:07:27,420
She might know. All right, I'll text her. Oh my God.

1724
02:07:27,420 --> 02:07:28,500
Hey baby, you up?

1725
02:07:32,180 --> 02:07:35,380
If she doesn't know what that means,

1726
02:07:35,380 --> 02:07:40,860
you might be a late bloomer. My problem is I would probably get divorced immediately

1727
02:07:40,860 --> 02:07:43,900
because I would always introduce my wife as my ex-girlfriend.

1728
02:07:47,780 --> 02:07:51,020
He's not wrong, you know. I would not be able to help myself.

1729
02:07:51,020 --> 02:07:55,060
See for me, I find the funniest term to be the old ball and chain.

1730
02:07:55,060 --> 02:07:59,300
Just because I use it so ironically. Yeah, women love that. Yeah, she hates it.

1731
02:08:01,100 --> 02:08:05,540
But it's really funny. I've also heard them be the ward apartment.

1732
02:08:06,940 --> 02:08:13,620
Go with... Home office. I think William Austin calls his partner like a caretaker.

1733
02:08:13,980 --> 02:08:18,620
That's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I call Yvonne COO of my life.

1734
02:08:20,140 --> 02:08:24,380
She doesn't love it. She's not even fully in charge of it then?

1735
02:08:26,500 --> 02:08:30,580
It's a promotion, honestly. Oh my goodness, anyways.

1736
02:08:30,580 --> 02:08:33,820
Look, go with better half. That's the safest one.

1737
02:08:33,820 --> 02:08:37,740
Partner. Go with better half. I like better half.

1738
02:08:37,740 --> 02:08:39,420
It flatters without kissing up.

1739
02:08:41,740 --> 02:08:44,260
And yes, partner is not bad. I see my wife.

1740
02:08:47,220 --> 02:08:52,220
So fresh. Having literally done the borat voice

1741
02:08:52,220 --> 02:08:56,620
at least twice prior on the stream. This stream we've done like three times.

1742
02:08:58,780 --> 02:09:03,940
Are we supposed to be talking about this case at all? You know, you could also plug in cables.

1743
02:09:03,940 --> 02:09:08,340
Well no, because I don't know how it impacts like meeting through, because some cases actually are different.

1744
02:09:08,340 --> 02:09:12,460
No, you're right, you're right. This one is fine.

1745
02:09:12,460 --> 02:09:16,700
So if I put the power supply in, if I don't think to plug in all my modular cables

1746
02:09:16,700 --> 02:09:20,100
ahead of time, I can put this in there and I can get at it,

1747
02:09:20,100 --> 02:09:24,540
but there's nothing special about it. So it's one of those cases where I'd say,

1748
02:09:24,540 --> 02:09:29,700
yeah, you're probably better off plugging everything in before you secure the power supply to the case.

1749
02:09:29,700 --> 02:09:33,740
Glad to help. Thanks, Elijah. You know what? You've actually been instrumental.

1750
02:09:34,740 --> 02:09:40,140
Well no, not really. With all the talking you do, you're more of a vocalist in this effort.

1751
02:09:41,460 --> 02:09:45,980
At least we make the band together. Nice. All right, that's going on the rubric.

1752
02:09:46,260 --> 02:09:49,820
I'm writing notes.

1753
02:09:50,980 --> 02:09:55,060
Ah, Dan, do you want to hit us with a merge message? Sure.

1754
02:09:55,060 --> 02:09:59,620
Let's see if I can find one that's a little less. Oh yeah, the whole topic started by calling you hot.

1755
02:09:59,620 --> 02:10:02,820
Let's- Hotty. Paydell.

1756
02:10:02,820 --> 02:10:04,840
Lead plus L's ego.

1757
02:10:08,060 --> 02:10:11,900
Okay. Okay. Sorry, what? We all just hard-pought.

1758
02:10:11,900 --> 02:10:17,100
What was the question? That was the intro. What's the greatest chord ever according to you guys?

1759
02:10:17,100 --> 02:10:20,420
Like HDMI chord, USB chord, RCA chord,

1760
02:10:20,420 --> 02:10:25,380
X-Lite chord, umbilical chord, Honda chord, G flat,

1761
02:10:25,380 --> 02:10:29,660
Honda chord, no, D minor. Honda chord, extension chord,

1762
02:10:29,660 --> 02:10:32,980
Ethernet chord, coaxial chord. Micro B.

1763
02:10:32,980 --> 02:10:37,300
Those were the examples. Micro B, get the hell out of here.

1764
02:10:37,300 --> 02:10:42,140
That's disgusting. That is awful. I wish I had the bleep button for that.

1765
02:10:43,100 --> 02:10:46,260
Oh my gosh. No, HDMI has so many negative connotations.

1766
02:10:46,260 --> 02:10:49,980
Many, many HDMI is so bad. What about micro-HDMI?

1767
02:10:51,980 --> 02:10:55,700
I would take micro-HDMI over, oh wait, oh yeah, no, micro is horrible.

1768
02:10:55,700 --> 02:10:59,380
I was thinking mini-DP for a second there. Mini-DP is pretty good. Mini-DP is pretty solid.

1769
02:10:59,380 --> 02:11:02,500
Yeah, it just doesn't snap when you look at it wrong.

1770
02:11:06,580 --> 02:11:09,620
That one specific as rock chord that has- Sorry, the worst or the best one?

1771
02:11:09,620 --> 02:11:12,660
The best. The best. The greatest.

1772
02:11:12,660 --> 02:11:15,980
The greatest. Okay, I have my answer, but you go first.

1773
02:11:15,980 --> 02:11:19,500
I can't think of a serious one. I'm just like, oh, laptop ribbon display cable.

1774
02:11:19,500 --> 02:11:22,620
Like that's what came to my mind. A new boat? One.

1775
02:11:22,620 --> 02:11:25,900
I was like, I have no idea. Do you want them all to hate you?

1776
02:11:25,900 --> 02:11:30,500
They already do. They don't. Some of them do.

1777
02:11:30,500 --> 02:11:33,020
Dude, okay, no, in all seriousness though.

1778
02:11:34,940 --> 02:11:39,580
What? Oh, sorry. I'm pointing at you. In all seriousness though,

1779
02:11:39,580 --> 02:11:42,620
I'm trying to move this case out of the way. You're like hiding behind it.

1780
02:11:42,620 --> 02:11:46,060
Cause I'm scared. He did a great job of that recent video

1781
02:11:46,060 --> 02:11:52,180
with the Steam Most Average PC. Was that your first time solo hosting the entire video?

1782
02:11:53,580 --> 02:11:57,140
I think so. And technically- I'm trying to remember, yeah.

1783
02:11:57,140 --> 02:12:01,180
Technically it wasn't quite the entire video because we put me in the intro

1784
02:12:01,180 --> 02:12:04,580
so that we could put me in the thumbnail. Yeah.

1785
02:12:05,460 --> 02:12:08,700
With a straight face. I guess that addresses all those comments

1786
02:12:08,700 --> 02:12:12,460
that were like, why was Linus in the thumbnail if he's not in the video?

1787
02:12:12,460 --> 02:12:15,700
It is called Linus Tech Tips. And I wasn't thinking-

1788
02:12:15,700 --> 02:12:20,460
He was in the video. But we were looking at the,

1789
02:12:20,460 --> 02:12:23,820
when did we make the call on that one? Were we looking at the script or was it prior to that?

1790
02:12:23,820 --> 02:12:29,340
It was just before because it was gonna be shot while you guys were in, for a copy text,

1791
02:12:29,340 --> 02:12:34,260
down for a copy text. So we needed a video to shoot and we kind of, I talked to James and he was like,

1792
02:12:34,260 --> 02:12:37,300
well, could you do it solo? And I was like, I don't know, can I?

1793
02:12:38,620 --> 02:12:42,020
And then it got green lit for me to do it solo. How good of a job did he do with that?

1794
02:12:42,020 --> 02:12:45,500
I thought it was really good. I messaged him after I reviewed the video and I was like, dang.

1795
02:12:45,500 --> 02:12:50,860
You messaged me. My favorite part was you messaged me at 11.45 p.m. on Steam.

1796
02:12:53,340 --> 02:12:57,700
It was like just after we finished playing tape to tape. You like DM'd me and you're just like,

1797
02:12:57,700 --> 02:13:02,460
good job on the video. And then you gave me some feedback and then you were like, nice.

1798
02:13:02,460 --> 02:13:08,060
I was like, all right, I'm on vacation, but thank you. Are you saying we have an issue with boundaries

1799
02:13:08,060 --> 02:13:12,340
in our workplace? Actually, no. We're pretty good in some cases,

1800
02:13:12,340 --> 02:13:17,940
but there are some cases where you messaged me on random platforms at like 11 p.m.

1801
02:13:19,740 --> 02:13:25,620
My favorite message, which I've talked about before on a video was you messaged me at 11 p.m.

1802
02:13:25,620 --> 02:13:29,580
and said, hey, are we playing video games tonight? And I said, I'm down.

1803
02:13:29,580 --> 02:13:33,100
Your follow-up message was, are you coming? I said, I'm down.

1804
02:13:33,460 --> 02:13:37,700
Your follow-up message was, are you coming over? Or are we doing Steam remote play?

1805
02:13:37,700 --> 02:13:39,620
I was like, it is 11 p.m.

1806
02:13:41,220 --> 02:13:42,780
I drove over to his house.

1807
02:13:45,260 --> 02:13:47,860
In person, so much more fun. It's so good, dude.

1808
02:13:49,060 --> 02:13:53,860
And I'm someone who will basically never hesitate if it means like getting to hang out in person

1809
02:13:53,860 --> 02:14:00,980
with a friend or whatever, right? So. Dude, dude, we at the writer's hangout,

1810
02:14:00,980 --> 02:14:04,820
which is not officially one of our summer pool parties for this year.

1811
02:14:04,820 --> 02:14:12,380
So we're still gonna have a couple of those. We got like a 3V3 human tape-to-tape game going.

1812
02:14:14,100 --> 02:14:17,540
That was really fun. Other than some of the glitches?

1813
02:14:17,540 --> 02:14:22,300
It's still very, very alpha. We were also playing on like a different branch,

1814
02:14:22,300 --> 02:14:24,420
build branch, whatever. A very alpha branch.

1815
02:14:25,420 --> 02:14:29,420
But dude, it supports 5V5 now.

1816
02:14:29,420 --> 02:14:33,140
And I'm like so stoked to try it.

1817
02:14:33,140 --> 02:14:36,860
Like that will 100% be one of the stations at Whale Land.

1818
02:14:36,860 --> 02:14:41,780
And I will 100% be hanging around there for a lot of the land.

1819
02:14:41,780 --> 02:14:46,180
Just like playing 5V5 human tape-to-tape is gonna be sick.

1820
02:14:46,180 --> 02:14:49,140
You're gonna play, right? Of course. You coming at Whale Land?

1821
02:14:50,340 --> 02:14:51,740
Can I bring my server rack?

1822
02:14:53,900 --> 02:14:58,980
I mean. I don't really wanna bring my gaming PC out of my server rack. So if I just roll the whole server rack there.

1823
02:15:00,260 --> 02:15:04,420
I'm just taking a minute. Cause then I have my NAS. So I can like watch Plex.

1824
02:15:06,100 --> 02:15:09,700
You should have remote access to it anyway. What are you even talking about?

1825
02:15:09,700 --> 02:15:12,500
Yeah, but like it's different. He doesn't know how to port forward.

1826
02:15:14,900 --> 02:15:18,140
That's my limitation. That better not be the reason.

1827
02:15:18,140 --> 02:15:21,260
I don't use Plex anyways. I use Jellyfinn. Okay.

1828
02:15:21,260 --> 02:15:25,260
Do you know how to port forward? Yeah, I set up a Minecraft server in my day.

1829
02:15:25,260 --> 02:15:28,620
Okay, well then. Yeah, there you go. That's how we all learned.

1830
02:15:28,620 --> 02:15:33,140
How am I supposed to take for granted that you know how to port forward if you think you have to take your Jellyfinn server

1831
02:15:33,140 --> 02:15:36,300
with you to a LAN? Well, I need to be on the same network.

1832
02:15:36,300 --> 02:15:40,820
You're making it seem like I'm the one asking a stupid question here. I take my phone with me everywhere.

1833
02:15:40,820 --> 02:15:44,580
What are you, dumb? Yeah, I need all three of my computers, right?

1834
02:15:44,580 --> 02:15:48,220
Oh my God. Anyway.

1835
02:15:48,220 --> 02:15:51,780
Yes, I will be at the LAN. Whale Land, let's go. It's gonna be awesome.

1836
02:15:51,780 --> 02:15:56,900
Which again, if you weren't here earlier in the stream, we have been officially, actually like for sure approved

1837
02:15:56,900 --> 02:16:00,020
to do a Whale Land. Three years, baby.

1838
02:16:00,020 --> 02:16:04,220
We have a temporary use permit for three years to run LAN events at our facility.

1839
02:16:04,220 --> 02:16:06,900
Three years? I didn't realize it was that long. Yeah.

1840
02:16:09,620 --> 02:16:13,220
In my humble opinion, it shouldn't be temporary at all

1841
02:16:13,220 --> 02:16:16,740
because bingo is a carved out use case.

1842
02:16:16,740 --> 02:16:21,340
And from my perspective, LAN gaming is just digital bingo.

1843
02:16:24,060 --> 02:16:27,540
What? From an occupancy standpoint,

1844
02:16:28,420 --> 02:16:32,340
from like a... You're trying to convince boomers that.

1845
02:16:32,340 --> 02:16:35,660
Yeah. Well, they don't know what gaming is. Digital bingo.

1846
02:16:36,740 --> 02:16:40,340
I mean... Can we play bingo on Steam so that we can justify it?

1847
02:16:40,340 --> 02:16:45,180
With all the Gacha mechanics? Sure. It's all basically gambling anyway.

1848
02:16:45,180 --> 02:16:46,460
Yeah, scamba.

1849
02:16:48,780 --> 02:16:50,140
This was fine.

1850
02:16:52,020 --> 02:16:56,220
There's these holes over here for running cables. I didn't use them because

1851
02:16:56,220 --> 02:16:59,780
this would look horrible if I ran the cables through here.

1852
02:16:59,780 --> 02:17:02,780
So I think these are just here for if you have like a slightly wider

1853
02:17:02,780 --> 02:17:08,060
than standard ATX motherboard. It looks pretty solid from the front.

1854
02:17:08,060 --> 02:17:12,300
And they did do a fair amount of the cable management work for you, but like...

1855
02:17:12,300 --> 02:17:13,620
Man, this is a...

1856
02:17:17,180 --> 02:17:18,860
Yeah, it's pretty basic.

1857
02:17:22,620 --> 02:17:24,500
The value's definitely there.

1858
02:17:26,380 --> 02:17:29,700
You know what? I think at the end, other than the scores,

1859
02:17:29,700 --> 02:17:33,420
I want to revisit some of the cases just a little bit. Just do a quick sanity over it.

1860
02:17:33,420 --> 02:17:37,380
Yeah, sure. Yeah, just do a quick once over and kind of talk through a couple of things.

1861
02:17:37,380 --> 02:17:42,540
Can I have that GPU? And while you're installing that? We should do one more shout out to our sponsor, Valkyrie.

1862
02:17:42,540 --> 02:17:47,020
Thank you very much for sponsoring this stream. They featured both...

1863
02:17:48,380 --> 02:17:51,660
There we go. This fine looking air cooler as well as...

1864
02:17:51,660 --> 02:17:54,780
Do you want to pull out the AIO for them again? Yeah, I was just grabbing it here.

1865
02:17:54,780 --> 02:17:59,060
All right, thanks, Elijah. So the Surge SL125 air cooler

1866
02:17:59,060 --> 02:18:03,340
is the one that we've installed in all the systems. And I want to especially shout out Valkyrie

1867
02:18:03,340 --> 02:18:06,740
for not forcing us to install AIOs on a live stream

1868
02:18:06,740 --> 02:18:11,300
because this already took long enough. And AIOs, you know, they might do a great job

1869
02:18:11,300 --> 02:18:16,180
in terms of performance and look awesome and be safer for transport in a lot of ways

1870
02:18:16,180 --> 02:18:19,780
and all that good stuff. But boy, are they ever a little bit more work to install

1871
02:18:19,780 --> 02:18:24,260
when you first put them in. So thank you, Valkyrie, for being extremely flexible about that.

1872
02:18:24,420 --> 02:18:30,100
Couple cool features other than the availability in white and black as well as 240 and 360 millimeter

1873
02:18:30,100 --> 02:18:35,260
is this kind of cool... Man, I don't know, how did they describe it again?

1874
02:18:35,260 --> 02:18:38,260
A mecca. Yeah, this cool kind of mecca look, you can get even closer

1875
02:18:38,260 --> 02:18:41,380
because there's this kind of like, you can see through to the PCB. Or effects on the air.

1876
02:18:41,380 --> 02:18:46,740
Yeah, there you go. Which is kind of neat. You can rotate it 90 degrees in any orientation.

1877
02:18:46,740 --> 02:18:50,500
So there's no such thing as like an upside down for it,

1878
02:18:50,500 --> 02:18:54,860
which is really nice. And did I lose one of the thumb screws?

1879
02:18:54,860 --> 02:18:58,660
I don't know. Gosh darn it. Okay, anyway, yeah, thanks Valkyrie. And while we're at it,

1880
02:18:58,660 --> 02:19:00,420
I think we should probably shout out,

1881
02:19:01,700 --> 02:19:05,260
ah yes, the folks who sent over some of the gear that we used for our builds,

1882
02:19:05,260 --> 02:19:08,900
especially Gigabyte who sent over these AORUS motherboards,

1883
02:19:08,900 --> 02:19:13,900
ASRock who sent over these Tai Chi Radeon 9070 XTs,

1884
02:19:14,140 --> 02:19:17,660
AMD who sent over the 9800 X3Ds.

1885
02:19:17,660 --> 02:19:21,140
These could actually really come in handy for the lab.

1886
02:19:22,140 --> 02:19:25,420
Coursera sent over the RAM. Is that correct? Yep, awesome.

1887
02:19:25,420 --> 02:19:30,300
And that's it. That's it for this build.

1888
02:19:30,300 --> 02:19:33,420
It also felt pretty fine. Yeah, I was gonna say uneventful, fine.

1889
02:19:33,420 --> 02:19:38,420
Fast. Yeah, I was gonna say. And I mean, I already kind of told you guys

1890
02:19:38,420 --> 02:19:41,500
this was coming when I said that was why we picked Phanteks

1891
02:19:41,500 --> 02:19:45,260
when we did our, when we chose something for our internal systems

1892
02:19:45,260 --> 02:19:48,460
is like, how painless was that?

1893
02:19:48,460 --> 02:19:53,580
My first couple of weeks here was just building standardized RAVs and we did Phanteks cases.

1894
02:19:53,580 --> 02:19:57,900
I got very, very used to them and I could get building in them done in like 20 minutes.

1895
02:19:57,900 --> 02:20:01,860
It was pretty quick. Which one was it? The N2XT? The one with the Hingey doors, I think.

1896
02:20:01,860 --> 02:20:05,060
The G something old.

1897
02:20:05,060 --> 02:20:09,620
No, I just don't remember. B07 something, I don't know. Now I'm not even sure if there is an N2XT.

1898
02:20:09,620 --> 02:20:12,900
So ignore anything I said. It's Phanteks case. Yeah, some Phanteks case.

1899
02:20:12,900 --> 02:20:16,820
It was great. I'd say that, yeah, okay.

1900
02:20:16,820 --> 02:20:22,060
Well, let's go through. I was gonna say we need to go over the scoring. So features, extra fans, rubber grommet,

1901
02:20:22,060 --> 02:20:26,500
fan filter, organized screw box. Just what do you think features?

1902
02:20:26,500 --> 02:20:30,140
The highest one we gave was the Lee and Lee for, it was an eight.

1903
02:20:30,140 --> 02:20:34,140
The Cooler Master and the Fractal Design Meshify,

1904
02:20:34,140 --> 02:20:37,780
both got a five and the Corsair frame got a seven.

1905
02:20:41,060 --> 02:20:44,680
Rear accessible PSU fan filter.

1906
02:20:46,540 --> 02:20:48,500
No fan filter in the front.

1907
02:20:50,020 --> 02:20:55,700
That's a pretty tight mesh. And one of the things that we liked about some of the newer designs,

1908
02:20:55,700 --> 02:20:59,500
like the one from Landcool as well, as actually that one from Corsair,

1909
02:20:59,500 --> 02:21:03,180
is outstanding airflow. That's not something that we're seeing

1910
02:21:03,180 --> 02:21:04,860
on our Phanteks offering here.

1911
02:21:09,180 --> 02:21:11,980
Do you think it's on par with Corsair at a seven, I think?

1912
02:21:13,500 --> 02:21:16,900
I kind of feel more, I'm kind of feeling more of a six for features.

1913
02:21:16,900 --> 02:21:20,940
Like what stands out to you? It doesn't support a vertical mount like the Corsair does.

1914
02:21:20,940 --> 02:21:25,740
I believe the Corsair does. Yep. The Corsair supports a vertical mount.

1915
02:21:25,740 --> 02:21:31,020
Yeah, I'd say six then I feel like is on. Didn't have the Cooler modular movable rails.

1916
02:21:31,020 --> 02:21:35,740
Like it just has a, oh yeah, yeah, I got that. This, there you go.

1917
02:21:35,740 --> 02:21:38,780
Like it doesn't have the modular rails. It just has like your standard,

1918
02:21:38,780 --> 02:21:45,540
here's a bunch of different holes for mounting stuff. And yeah, you can cover them, but this is old meta, you know?

1919
02:21:45,540 --> 02:21:48,940
We'll do six. I don't think it really stands out on the features.

1920
02:21:48,940 --> 02:21:52,980
Building experience out of 10. Did anything get in the way or enhance the building?

1921
02:21:52,980 --> 02:21:56,740
It felt like you just flew through that. I don't think anything really enhanced it,

1922
02:21:56,740 --> 02:22:02,460
but boy is that ever a nice looking build. And my brain was just about completely turned off

1923
02:22:02,460 --> 02:22:08,780
while I did it. That's actually a positive, right? Yeah, oh, I mean that in a very positive way.

1924
02:22:08,780 --> 02:22:11,820
Effortless build, I'd say nine. Cool.

1925
02:22:11,820 --> 02:22:15,540
Yeah, really solid build experience. Cable management out of five.

1926
02:22:15,540 --> 02:22:18,060
Tie down points, any other channels.

1927
02:22:19,540 --> 02:22:22,940
You had that one gripe about that, where that one cutout was,

1928
02:22:22,940 --> 02:22:28,300
but I think that was basically it. Other than just not being quite as good as the LandCool,

1929
02:22:30,540 --> 02:22:34,180
what can I really complain about? You know? Yeah.

1930
02:22:34,180 --> 02:22:38,260
Lots of tie down points. They included 100 bazillion cable ties.

1931
02:22:39,220 --> 02:22:42,340
Literally 100 bazillion. It's just not as good as the LandCool

1932
02:22:42,340 --> 02:22:45,100
or the Corsair, I'd give it a three.

1933
02:22:45,620 --> 02:22:48,980
Yeah. Okay. Price.

1934
02:22:48,980 --> 02:22:52,540
This came in at the same price as the LandCool, $90 US.

1935
02:22:52,540 --> 02:22:57,100
And I think it has to have the same score. So a six? Yeah, I think that's a very reasonable price

1936
02:22:57,100 --> 02:23:00,540
for even a fairly high end gaming machine.

1937
02:23:00,540 --> 02:23:05,140
I think what we've learned today is that there is no obvious reason.

1938
02:23:06,300 --> 02:23:11,100
That looks pretty good, huh? It looks good with all the RGB fans, I'd say. There is no obvious reason that I can see

1939
02:23:11,100 --> 02:23:15,300
to spend more than $100 on a case. Yeah, I agree.

1940
02:23:16,820 --> 02:23:21,220
Like, you can obviously, you can have like,

1941
02:23:21,220 --> 02:23:24,500
something could be an aesthetic choice for you, but that's not a reason, right?

1942
02:23:24,500 --> 02:23:30,100
That's taste. And something being to your tastes can, okay, come on.

1943
02:23:30,100 --> 02:23:33,260
Something being to your tastes can kind of be a reason

1944
02:23:33,260 --> 02:23:38,140
for it in a sense, but when I talk about reason, I mean like logical, right?

1945
02:23:38,140 --> 02:23:42,220
Like, oh, it has better cooling or it has better support for the parts

1946
02:23:42,260 --> 02:23:47,940
that I want to use or whatever, right? But I don't think I can come up with a reason

1947
02:23:47,940 --> 02:23:53,820
to spend more than $100 on a case. We have three, I would say, outstanding options

1948
02:23:53,820 --> 02:23:57,100
that are anywhere from $89 to $110,

1949
02:23:57,100 --> 02:23:58,900
and also the mesh if I see was there.

1950
02:24:00,620 --> 02:24:03,860
Do you think there's any bonuses related to it? I think the looks are a bonus.

1951
02:24:03,860 --> 02:24:08,940
It's got, with all the RGB fans in there, and then our cooler and the GPU, like it looks good.

1952
02:24:08,940 --> 02:24:13,820
I think it's the best. It's got the biggest pane of glass out of all of them.

1953
02:24:13,820 --> 02:24:19,180
Both of these have kind of this basement cutoff, kind of new meta thing going on that,

1954
02:24:19,180 --> 02:24:24,300
I don't know, yeah, some people might be into. Personally, I like the uninterrupted

1955
02:24:24,300 --> 02:24:26,660
just sheet of glass on the side.

1956
02:24:27,700 --> 02:24:32,700
I like that they include four RGB fans at $90.

1957
02:24:32,860 --> 02:24:36,780
Yep, the LandCool only had two. That's pretty outstanding. Corsair had zero.

1958
02:24:36,780 --> 02:24:40,340
They didn't even have that many non-RGB fans included in their case.

1959
02:24:40,340 --> 02:24:43,980
And that was $20 more. Do you think this is the highest one then with three bonus points?

1960
02:24:43,980 --> 02:24:46,980
Cause you think it beats the LandCool cause it has more RGB fans?

1961
02:24:46,980 --> 02:24:50,820
Cause you ended up taking off like half point for a little bit of the no dust filter,

1962
02:24:50,820 --> 02:24:53,220
which like you said, this one front doesn't either.

1963
02:24:54,740 --> 02:24:57,900
I think I can only really give it two bonus points. Two bonus points?

1964
02:24:57,900 --> 02:25:01,980
Yeah, and those are basically for just being able to completely turn my brain off,

1965
02:25:01,980 --> 02:25:06,580
like liking that it's like the mesh if I see and that it's like the NPC.

1966
02:25:06,580 --> 02:25:09,860
Sure. The case that an NPC could build.

1967
02:25:10,300 --> 02:25:14,580
Like just, it's so basic. Everything's exactly where it's supposed to be.

1968
02:25:14,580 --> 02:25:18,980
And I don't have to consult the manual. Like we had to look at the manual to figure out what some of the parts were

1969
02:25:18,980 --> 02:25:22,140
for some of the earlier cases. Yeah, you're right, you're right.

1970
02:25:22,140 --> 02:25:27,380
Where is this? Come on, please. 12 plus nine is 21.

1971
02:25:27,380 --> 02:25:30,780
Plus three is 24, 26.

1972
02:25:30,780 --> 02:25:33,880
Okay. Wow.

1973
02:25:33,880 --> 02:25:38,780
The mark of a good scoring rubric is that when you're done,

1974
02:25:38,820 --> 02:25:44,020
it kind of aligns with what you probably would have wanted to rank them anyway.

1975
02:25:44,020 --> 02:25:49,620
And I think we've actually kind of nailed this here. So here, Andrew, do you want to hop down carefully?

1976
02:25:49,620 --> 02:25:55,380
A lot of cable. There's no question that we started with the best.

1977
02:25:55,380 --> 02:26:01,100
Whether it's because this is the top selling at Micro Center, where people really do get to get

1978
02:26:01,100 --> 02:26:05,300
hands on and up and close and personal with the product before they buy it.

1979
02:26:05,300 --> 02:26:08,580
Or whether it's just because it's a more innovative design.

1980
02:26:08,580 --> 02:26:14,260
I think the Landcool 207 from Lee and Lee stood out from the rest and it score reflects that.

1981
02:26:14,260 --> 02:26:17,860
It scored 30.5 and while it wasn't necessarily

1982
02:26:17,860 --> 02:26:21,340
the simplest to build, so they didn't get

1983
02:26:21,340 --> 02:26:24,380
any extra bonus points for that,

1984
02:26:24,380 --> 02:26:29,420
what it was was an absolute joy to build. It was full of little things that I was discovering

1985
02:26:29,420 --> 02:26:33,260
as I went along that were just so thoughtful

1986
02:26:33,260 --> 02:26:36,820
and exciting that it made me happier to build a computer.

1987
02:26:36,820 --> 02:26:42,620
I also love what they've done for cooling, bringing the bottom intake right over here

1988
02:26:42,620 --> 02:26:45,820
directly over your GPU and moving the power supply

1989
02:26:45,820 --> 02:26:49,940
up to the front while also making it easier to plug in modular cables because you don't have

1990
02:26:49,940 --> 02:26:54,780
to fish through the basement of your case. This is a really outstanding case and for $90,

1991
02:26:54,780 --> 02:26:56,780
I just, I can't recommend it enough.

1992
02:26:57,900 --> 02:27:00,580
Absolutely love it. I mean, look at this. Look at this mesh.

1993
02:27:02,060 --> 02:27:05,800
She's so cooling centric and yet manages to look so good

1994
02:27:05,800 --> 02:27:09,640
and be so easy to build in. Really like it.

1995
02:27:09,640 --> 02:27:15,360
Coming in second place then is the one we just finished up with over here.

1996
02:27:15,360 --> 02:27:18,640
The Phanteks XT Pro Ultra.

1997
02:27:18,640 --> 02:27:21,700
While it's lacking some of the little innovative touches

1998
02:27:21,700 --> 02:27:25,320
that we saw with the LAN cool, it has more RGB.

1999
02:27:25,320 --> 02:27:28,840
It's a more straightforward build, extremely roomy,

2000
02:27:28,840 --> 02:27:31,440
nice and easy to build in and

2001
02:27:34,360 --> 02:27:38,920
that's about all you can really say in it. It was probably the fastest build. I agree, but it was also our fifth.

2002
02:27:38,920 --> 02:27:43,200
You know, we were getting quicker. We had some extra, like, you know, getting the coolers on and everything, so.

2003
02:27:43,200 --> 02:27:46,960
But dude, the cable management took me like 30 seconds. Like it was really fast.

2004
02:27:46,960 --> 02:27:51,200
I agree. With 26 points, a very, very close third

2005
02:27:51,200 --> 02:27:55,080
with 24 points was the Corsair Frame 4000D.

2006
02:27:55,080 --> 02:27:59,320
This one too, extremely airflow optimized.

2007
02:27:59,320 --> 02:28:04,680
Like look at this. I could practically put my fist through this front mesh.

2008
02:28:04,720 --> 02:28:10,000
Absolutely outstanding. I think Corsair has got a couple of really cool innovations

2009
02:28:10,000 --> 02:28:13,640
on their hands here with the ability to switch out

2010
02:28:13,640 --> 02:28:17,800
either the blacked out or the kind of translucent cover

2011
02:28:17,800 --> 02:28:21,640
on the bottom here. If you wanted to have like some lighting effects behind it or something like that.

2012
02:28:21,640 --> 02:28:27,320
I like the adjustable rails that they have for both the front fans as well as the top fans

2013
02:28:27,320 --> 02:28:31,680
so that you can have a clear shot of your obviously Corsair would like you to buy.

2014
02:28:31,680 --> 02:28:39,280
Corsair RGB fans that you install in there. As always, it's Corsair quality and it's just thoughtful.

2015
02:28:39,280 --> 02:28:44,120
They've got two captive thumb screws that are included in the power supply bracket.

2016
02:28:44,120 --> 02:28:49,420
So if you don't want to dig through your power supply box for additional screws, you can just throw those on

2017
02:28:49,420 --> 02:28:56,440
and you don't even have to get out a screwdriver to put in your power supply. That's something that I've not seen in a lot of years.

2018
02:28:56,440 --> 02:29:01,200
There was one power supply maker, XFX. Can't remember who used to include thumb screws

2019
02:29:01,200 --> 02:29:05,480
with their power supplies until they realized that there were compatibility issues with cases

2020
02:29:05,480 --> 02:29:08,880
and then that stopped being a thing. But Corsair, Corsair's bringing it back.

2021
02:29:08,880 --> 02:29:14,800
I thought they did a great job. And then Fractal with the Meshify C.

2022
02:29:14,800 --> 02:29:16,800
Honestly, sorry, there it is.

2023
02:29:17,880 --> 02:29:23,000
Top seller at B&H. I don't know what that tells us about photography, videography people

2024
02:29:23,000 --> 02:29:25,280
and their taste in cases.

2025
02:29:26,480 --> 02:29:31,600
It's fine. We gave it a C, 20 points out of 35.

2026
02:29:31,600 --> 02:29:35,200
Fractal makes a lot of really great products and there's nothing wrong with this one.

2027
02:29:35,200 --> 02:29:39,760
We just don't really like the price compared to the other ones that were comparing it against it smaller.

2028
02:29:39,760 --> 02:29:44,520
It was more cramped to work in. Cable management was fine, I guess.

2029
02:29:44,520 --> 02:29:49,000
And the build experience was NPC simple, just like we saw with the Phanteks.

2030
02:29:49,000 --> 02:29:53,840
But what it lacked was anything to set it apart.

2031
02:29:53,840 --> 02:29:58,400
It doesn't have front USB-C. It doesn't have a cool power supply mount.

2032
02:29:58,400 --> 02:30:02,240
It doesn't have like a whole bunch of included RGB fans.

2033
02:30:02,240 --> 02:30:07,880
It doesn't even have an easy to clean front filter. Like it just falls short on the features

2034
02:30:07,880 --> 02:30:10,960
where it actually scored dead last

2035
02:30:10,960 --> 02:30:14,880
alongside our last place finisher, the Cooler Master MasterBox Q300L,

2036
02:30:14,880 --> 02:30:20,880
which is a $40 case. So all the other negative things I could say about it,

2037
02:30:20,880 --> 02:30:22,480
I'm gonna crumple up in a ball

2038
02:30:24,080 --> 02:30:30,720
and say this is a $40 case. If all you want is MATX and you don't mind some warts,

2039
02:30:30,720 --> 02:30:35,280
some challenges in the build process, it's got filters on all side

2040
02:30:35,280 --> 02:30:37,600
and it holds your computer.

2041
02:30:39,480 --> 02:30:42,760
And it's $40. Sometimes that's all you need though.

2042
02:30:42,760 --> 02:30:46,680
Is there anything else that you feel like we should round off? I mean, again, thanks Valkyrie.

2043
02:30:48,960 --> 02:30:51,240
Really? You're gonna thank a Twitch streamer?

2044
02:30:52,740 --> 02:30:57,800
You talk. Thanks Pokeymane. Thanks for providing all of the coolers for us.

2045
02:30:57,800 --> 02:31:00,920
If we weren't broke boys, we'd have bought them ourselves. That's crazy.

2046
02:31:02,240 --> 02:31:06,160
If you're broke boys, just say so. I don't think there's anything else to say.

2047
02:31:06,160 --> 02:31:10,280
I think you should just cut it down. We're digging ourselves into a hole faster than we can dig ourselves out of it.

2048
02:31:10,280 --> 02:31:13,000
Quick, please, please, please, please. What about holes?