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What's up local hello, how y'all doing happy Friday?

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The good Friday, sorry, sorry black Friday. Good Friday. It's the other one. It is not

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It's not good Friday. Yeah, you're that's true. That's true

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But it could be good Charlotte. Let's rock out

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Well, that's a that's a bad name. I haven't heard in a minute. Wow

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Ah All right, where's my Floatplane chat? Oh, it doesn't work. How about that?

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What do you mean? Oh, oh this window works one of my Windows wasn't working. It was frozen

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Sometimes it does that gets cold this time of year it does and sometimes chat gets frozen. Yep. This is Canada, you know, we can't

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We can't remember more like Canada Sometimes sometimes things go wrong

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All right, good Charlotte is still releasing music what no way

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Sorry, Bing chilling. It's not the like ice cream thing from John Cena

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Okay, sure. Yeah, I I'll be honest with you. I I'm not a huge WWE guy and so this is not a

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WWE thing John Cena is not a WWE thing. Well, he's like an actor now, but this particular thing had nothing to do with WWE

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Oh, okay. Okay. Okay. I just assumed John Cena has come up because of the intro we did on the old transparent PC

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Mmm, and I cannot take any of the credit for that like I I tuned I did what I do

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Like I'm our like a writing editor So I like tuned the like the dialogue and the script and you know everything but the actual concept was

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one of our one of our new members of the writing team who you'll probably meet fairly shortly because I think his

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Probation is up in like three days or something like that

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Okay, this is open should we let the YouTube people wait a little bit or

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What do you want to do Dan?

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This is okay, you know what? Oh

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Yeah, oh Yeah, Artie was just unsure if you're okay with it blocking you. Yeah, you know what I'm good with it. I'm good with it

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Okay, do we want to do the same thing on Luke's side, I think this is fine I

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Thought we're gonna talk to this. Yeah, we did but now I change my mind

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That happens I don't know. It's like you lose kind of a gap here. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Let's fill the gap

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Fill all the gaps fill them up There's kind of like a crack in the product placement just stuff something into the crack

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It's probably fine. You can tell what it is. It's beautiful. I can do more but like it's beautiful. The thighs are almost touching

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Yeah, no, no, I know we just thought it was a lot dirtier at first

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Yeah, oh, I don't want to talk about five gaps on the live show though, dude. Have you seen how like heroin sheik is back?

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No, yeah, it's like a whole thing now and it's it's it's it's it's fascinating

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I thought we were like some semi permanently beyond that

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Well, no because the biggest beautiful happened for a long time

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Oh, so now we're swinging back and now we're swinging hard the other way because of like a zempik and stuff. Oh

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I mean, I've seen Two people that probably fit in this category that are doing a big press tour to promote

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Everybody is beautiful and we should not shame anyone for anything but on the other hand

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Have you seen how skinny those bitches are that one's very different than mine. I don't like that

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That's bad Yeah, it's been it's been very

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Fascinating to watch. I just you know, I watch I watch

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Internet drama, you know It's nice to watch it instead of be embroiled in it once in a while you watch Internet drama. I do I

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Do it's interesting, huh? It's culture

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I think that's sad Do you? Yeah, it doesn't make me sad. You don't watch much

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What do you mean by watch? I understand it goes. Oh, no, like I don't watch videos about it

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Oh, no, no, no, I just I observe it got it. Yeah, I observe it in text form

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It's always text form with me. That's why I was like, what the heck although I thought you were breaking

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You're like, I don't watch pretty much anything thing just to watch drama heavens. No, yeah, okay

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That's why I was like that's insane. Yeah

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Okay, I have been watching more films lately though. I

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This week should we start Because we could talk with us. Yeah, we're pre-showing. I yeah, I'm not gonna be talking about like weight loss

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Reddit drama on the main show. That's not gonna happen

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But yeah, I've been watching more films lately. I've been like catching up on you know worthwhile films. I

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I don't know if I would say that they're especially worthwhile But I finally watched the equalizer trilogy with Denzel Washington. Okay. God. He's an amazing actor

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And the first one is like It's like very watchable and the third one's pretty watchable and uh, what I what I liked most about them was they managed to be an action movie

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Where the there is no unnecessary like love interest and sex scene

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His relationships can just be platonic with people in his community

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Stop taking away my gratuitous nudity says syphilis see this is how you got into trouble

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Is that straight up just their

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Syphilis so it's not not the same spelling pretty close. Yeah

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Is it stormy out there? No, what just happened?

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Oh that moment when your backup power is the thing cause okay, it doesn't matter the point is let's do this thing

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Okay Um, oh wow, okay. Yeah. Yeah, okay. Let's do it. Let's do it. Oh wait, I guess I have to do it. I always forget this

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How do I always forget that I'm the one who starts the show it's a good bit

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No, it's not it's not I you know what? Yeah. Yeah, I like it. Yeah, it's a bit

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I did watch the first third of just like a kick streamers or terrible people video though

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That is one video that I did watch on the subject of drama and I couldn't make it through it

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I got to the jack doherty chapter and then I uh, I noped out. Yeah

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Like I knew about him from the car crash thing That was when I first heard of him and that was like awful enough

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I didn't realize that his whole life was basically leading him up to that moment

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I don't know much about him, but uh

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I just hear that general statement and I'm like, oh, yep

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And move on have I played much art graders yet? No, I haven't essentially played anything for like three months

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And a max store that's not true. You cannot be so narcissistic that you don't mind the label

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I don't I don't can you actually yeah help me out with this

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What that even how would that even work? Well because

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In my mind the more The more npd you go the more denial you have about there being anything wrong with you

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Is that not do you think you're a narcissist? I think that I have narcissistic tendencies. Okay, so you're the new like anyone. Yeah

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um I mean, I literally took a personality test on camera for it

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And I scored a boat on par with like other influencers

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Yeah, so that kind of makes sense. I think you need a little bit of it. Which to do has been consistent with what I have always said about it

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Because it's about being in Oh, dude tim 000x3 says actually being proud of being a narcissist is a common symptom of being a narcissist that is hilarious

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wait Kitty kitty though says the more you npd the more you care about appearance rather than reality. Okay. I don't know

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I don't know But then because narcissism is

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somewhat aligned with like high performance individuals ceo stuff like that. Is it?

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Yeah, I think so. Is that correlation or causation though? Probably correlation

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But I don't think it matters here because then if you're like I can correlate with successful people

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Oh, I see what you mean Therefore I am great

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You know what I mean

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Don't make me correlate with you because then I'll be great. Okay

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Um Oh man, oh dude Hilbert. Why you got to do me like that?

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I just got murdered Did you see that? No, he's going to jail. He goes, but Linus doesn't care about appearance

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Do you know how long it takes to put this together?

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I rolled out of bed. I mean you do do face

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Things whatever it's called. That's true. And you have braces on that's true. I also maintain my car

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and Perform periodic reformats on my computer

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um It was actually uh, it was actually an employee here who who sort of turned around my perspective on on that

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No treatments of any sort and then he basically went well, what are you talking about?

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Like what's the difference between going to the dentist and going to a skin treatment place?

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And going to a doctor you're basically just taking part of or taking care of another aspect of your body

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And if you're not changing if you're not like drastically altering your appearance

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Kind of a lot of dentistry like having too much plaque can affect your brain

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I don't think they're exactly equal, but I also think they're totally fine

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They're they're not as they're not as as different as I had felt like they were like I had sort of a very emotional

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Sort of take on it and I hadn't really sat down and thought about like oh, yeah

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I think I used to as well and now I just don't care. Yeah, but that's deeply rooted in like, I don't know do whatever you want

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That's fair. Uh, okay, so looked it up. Don't know how real this is but there's a

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um, Harvard law school corporate governance thing

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The can I go on your screen? Yeah, sure Let me see if I can oh my god, what a wall of text

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Yeah, there we go Nope, this is not it. Sorry apparently 18 percent of ceo's show

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Narcissist stuff Whereas the median population is like five percent. Oh, I think I just lost it. Nice. It was there for a second

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Yeah, by comparison some estimates show that five percent of the u.s. Population is narcissistic, but for ceo's it's

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18 percent. Okay. So like way over represented. Yeah over over 3x got it. Okay, so then it could be like

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I am Cool and highly performing

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Right because I am this thing

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Right, I don't know. Who knows. I mean once you like lose track of logic than any kind of

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attempt to reconstruct the logic. Yeah, yeah, all right. Let's do this thing

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Okay, I am resuming the selected and hopefully it's the right one this week now

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What's up everyone happy Friday and welcome to the WAN Show before we get into the amazing topics

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We have for you guys today. I have got to get something off my chest

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I walked in On my daughter and all of her friends having a little dance party to rebecca blacks friday

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It's friday Friday actually you got to get down on friday rebecca black is officially cool again

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And it's black friday today and I just couldn't I couldn't contain

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My shock red. I'm shocked. I'm shocked

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And we've got some great topics lined up for you guys today

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The big one is of course that the honey lawsuit that was launched by a variety of

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Influencers and maybe people who are less influential. I don't know. I don't know all their names

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It's been dismissed. The honey lawsuit has been dismissed

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So that doesn't necessarily mean that this is a final outcome

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But it is something that we do need to talk about a little bit since do we I somehow ended up embroiled in it

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So that was that was a fascinating thing to behold in other news

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Oh my god, it's friday. We have the biggest sale of the year

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It's black friday cyber monday and the LTT Store is stacked. I'm talking free worldwide shipping on orders over 100 dollars

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That is both 100 us dollars on the u.s. Site and 100 canadian dollars on the worldwide site

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Oh, this is the lowest threshold for free worldwide shipping that we have had

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In a long time maybe ever ever i'm pretty sure the worldwide site one that is the lowest threshold

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We have ever had 100 canadian for shipping worldwide is is probably and it's easier than ever to get to the threshold

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With the value packed bundles we're offering this year. We've got a free mystery screwdriver when you buy a commuter backpack

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There it is boom Uh, you get a free Thunderbolt 3 dock if you're in the us or a pair of sennheiser hd

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560 s headphones if you're shopping anywhere else We also have a killer offer with the precision screwdriver and bit set and tech sack bundle. Where's the tech sack?

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That'll save you up to 50 dollars and the t-shirts we're wearing buy two or more and you can save big

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And there's going to be a bunch more stuff we talk about later because it's craziest black friday

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What else we got for topics today? We've got that americans are holding onto devices longer than ever and it's apparently

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Costing the economy So costing the economy. Are you financially strained? We'll buy a new phone apparently

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Uh, but I don't follow that logic. Well, we'll talk about that later

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We're gonna have to talk about that later, sir because i'm not liking this train of thought that you're following

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Right, it's intentionally bad, but uh also

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Also What an excuse do I want to have that as an announcement topic that thing I just said was dumb, but it was intentional

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Oh, no, I mean the whole thing's stupid, but anyways, uh

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An unredacted court filing reveals claims that meta had a 17 strike

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savory chicken All right, let's jump right into the headline topic of today

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Which is of course that the influencers lawsuit against honey has been dismissed

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However, that is not the end of this saga doesn't mean much. All right. Let's start honey

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The controversial browser extension is back in the news as a class action lawsuit brought about by content creators

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Against its parent company paypal has been dismissed by a u.s. Federal judge

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Honey was accused of quietly engaging in cookie stuffing

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That is to say replacing creators affiliate link URLs at checkout and then pocketing the commission for themselves

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For nearly a year the case has crawled through the system, but it's now been dismissed because the plaintiffs

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And this is this is a summary This is not my personal take on it because the plaintiffs failed to demonstrate that they actually lost any money

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Relying on what judge beth freeman called a hypothetical chain of possibilities

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however Freeman did grant the creators 45 days to edit their argument

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so The Linus comment section of this which I don't recall writing. Oh, no. I did actually say this is

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Hey, should we Maybe not talk about this on depth because maybe this should be a scripted

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Video on the channel Um, what are your thoughts about what?

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So well, I I have a lot of additional stuff that I have said behind the scenes to some of the other players involved

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Clearly they never integrated any of that into any part two videos or

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You know apologies or anything so nobody ever heard most of it

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But there's there's a lot of information I mean we saw the the for the the former founder

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Did that am a we're basically demonstrating that well, you know, honey's practices

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Might not have been good for the creators who were who were promoting it, which we obviously identified

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Um That the investigation

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Had some pretty clear issues with it, which I knew because I had already raised some of those issues behind the scenes

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Um, so it's this is not like a this is not a black and white thing

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What are your thoughts? What are your thoughts? I don't know. I feel like this

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They they have a hypothetical chain of possibilities thing. I think they can get past that in 45 days

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Well, the thing is that you have to be able to quantify it

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Yeah, the exact amount of dollars might be tough. I don't think you can

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I think That argument could be extrapolated to like almost any case like how has any case about any form of piracy ever gone through

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Because that's a hypothetical amount of dollars

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It is but they've also had a I mean, okay

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I actually I think that I think you could I think we could use that argument either way

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Because the the ria the mpaa. They've actually had a ton of issues combating piracy

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The games industry has had a ton of issues using those arguments. Is there an example of a case like this?

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that wasn't like

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Is there an example of a case like this where it was digital?

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Where they had an answer that was real and it went through

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I don't know. I can imagine like if the the the road to your shop

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Was disrupted. Yeah, then you could you could measure cars going past. You could be like, okay

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My traffic is down by 40 percent something and my sales are down by 40 percent. Yeah, clearly that thing was in the way

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So that that's like a little bit more obvious in my mind. Yeah, but the second you cross the digital threshold

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Everything becomes a lot more theoretical and there's so many variables because like okay one of the things that

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one of the things that Back when we had our our little little dust up with amazon over their affiliate program

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This is like quite a while ago 10 years ago now. Yeah. Yeah

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If you a lot of you watching now wouldn't even have any awareness of this but amazon kicked us out of their affiliate program a number of years ago

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and The the rationale that they gave us for kicking us out was that we were offering

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something of benefit to our viewers

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In exchange for them using our code, which is against the amazon affiliate program terms of service

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And when I because yeah, I can't be like hey use my affiliate code and i'll give you a sticker pack

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I can't you're not allowed to bribe people to use your code. What do we say was a benefit?

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I don't remember that what we offered was our gratitude

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I Said it helps us out a lot and offered our gratitude

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So clearly what had happened was someone

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Someone there decided they didn't want us on there. Yeah, that wasn't like court of law though. No, no, no, no

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I'm good. I'm going somewhere with this. I'm going somewhere with this Um, so someone there decided they wanted us off it and how we ultimately argued our way back onto it

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um was We I basically laid out the the argument that like

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This isn't just people who because they they felt this and I think it was just one person to be clear

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I'm not going after amazon right now. We're still in amazon affiliate and that's great. Um, but clearly what happened was one person decided

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Hey, these guys are kind of gaming the system

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They're just taking they're they're gleaning affiliate revenue off of shopping people would have done anyway

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By just saying like use our code when you're shopping and we'll be grateful

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And the argument that I made to get us off of the blacklist was

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Well, okay, we're adding this many new subscribers per month

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So that can't be true our reach is growing

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So there is still future benefit for you. You've not captured every

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Potential amazon customer that you could ever have from exposure through our channel

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And that seemed to get through to someone and they reinstated us

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Right. So guess basically what I'm getting at here is there's so many variables involved in these affiliate programs

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Like how much you're growing how hard you're pushing affiliate links that month that pinning it down to some kind of even a

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Range of exact numbers. I think it's going to be really tough. Yes. I I don't think we would be able to do it

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Like if we went back and looked at all of our numbers I think it'd be very challenging for us to try to quantify this just because of how dynamic

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I do agree, but that's that's kind of I think the crux of my entire point is like is a

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I know I'm just agreeing with you in a really roundabout way. Sure. Yeah, but yeah, because the second becomes digital effectively

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It's just so nebulous that like yeah, but then I have a problem with that

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Yeah, then does that mean that you can just abuse anything?

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And every suit is just going to get thrown out because you can't prove the amount of money that's lost

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I mean, I guess so that's obviously a problem I mean, let's see what happened. Let's see what happens when commerce is integrated with chat gpt

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And nobody needs to go to a first party source of information anymore

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I mean, we've we've we've been talking about this since the concept of the lab first came up on wancho

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It already quotes lab if you ask it about things that lab has data on

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Yeah, and and are we are we going to be able to capture back that affiliate revenue?

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No, no unless we create more value and I think that's at the end of the day

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You know what you've got it what you got to figure out how to do. Yeah

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Um We have a couple of other discussion questions for this one. Um as far as dealing with sponsors is concerned

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How did the honey situation alter things at LMG?

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um I wouldn't say that the honey situation really altered much

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I think it might depend on what you define as the honey situation

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Oh back when we discovered that they were taking like the the last click attribution for our affiliate links

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Um as for like we and we like already had some rules for our sponsors and had the like transparency things on the forum and stuff like that

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Um, but I think there was kind of like a redoubling of efforts on those fronts at that time

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Here's the thing all of our all of our rules in the lead up to the honey thing

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Was that was it was it was basically like community police?

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And we had people complain that it was hard to cancel the subscription and we ultimately dropped them over that

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That was the first one we dropped. I think that was the first sponsor we ever like

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Dropped. Yeah, like just completely shit. That was back in the house. Yeah. Um, and so so we

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Dropped them Because of something that they were doing that was harming our viewers that we were promoting the product to yeah

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And that was the only that was the only lines we had ever considered

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That mattered. Yeah. So honey was the first time that we dropped someone because it was harming us. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah

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Um, and and you got and this is really important to remember is at the time

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We were not aware of any way that honey could have been harming consumers

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So, yes So we even we even debated it internally should we even drop this if this

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Is a net benefit to our viewers?

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But is damaging to our business and we kind of went well

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Probably the right way to approach this is we don't make a a giant stink about it

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And remember did we even notice this or was this because that other person brought it to life?

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No, it's because barnacles told us. Yeah. Yeah, and there there are videos from like a year prior to the whole

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That's what i'm pointing out. It's like that thing happened with like tens even over a hundred thousand views

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There was honey controversy one. Yeah, and at that time, but it wasn't set to like ominous music. No. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah

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so it didn't go viral

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At that time, uh, it did change how we deal with sponsors

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Honey controversy two I don't think I don't think that impacted anything. Yeah, because we had already we had already done

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What we were going to do and honestly, I don't think any other sponsor that i'm aware of has ever come to us that has a business model

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That's directly. I don't know detrimental to our business

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Like it's like that's those are weird bedfellows, right? Like you'd think they would go work with someone who who they have more synergistic energy with to use the business parlance

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Do we have like a product that we sell?

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That a company that sponsors us also sells a product in that category

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Um, we sell clothing and backpacks and stuff Do we take any sponsors that are clothing and backpack people? Wow, that's a good question

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Is do we do we take sponsors that are competitors? I mean

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We would take an iFixit sponsorship because we still love their mission and all of that

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But they haven't offered any since we dried up since we started selling our precision screwdriver set. Yeah

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Oh man, I don't know Uh, do we have overlap with ridge? Yeah, we don't have oh they have a backpack. Mm. Yeah ridge has backpacks

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Nice backpacks actually no disrespect to ridge. Um

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Yeah, not not many not many

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Okay, ginger-nutted asks, okay, what about lanyards are those not a product that others sell? No, I think that's fair

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I think that's fair. Um, but I I consider I yeah, it's a minor item

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Yeah, who who's a lanyard company? Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, there's no one that sponsors us. It's like they specialize in lanyards

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What ginger-nutted he always absolutely really yeah, okay

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Don't piss off big lanyard. Yeah, I think I think at a certain point it's um

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I mean, I don't think we would ever care No, no, we wouldn't care, but I could see someone else caring. Yeah. Yeah, because a conflict of interest is not

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And a negative action that the potentially conflicted party has taken necessarily

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It's already a conflict of interest when

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Their interests are conflicted So it's it can even just be a a perception of bias

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And if if a sponsor could have the perception

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That we would be we would be biased towards promoting our own product rather than theirs more strongly

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And that we would be financially incentivized by doing that then. Yeah, there's there's a conflict of interest there

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I mean, that's one of the reasons that we We consulted with the community before doing the framework investment

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investment disclosure because it's it does

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Present a conflict of interest and then it just comes down to do you guys trust me to manage that

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Do you do trust me to carefully navigate that and overall I mean

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If anything I have tried to take like a coach's son

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approach to Sort of how we handle them like if if they have

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An issue with something we I tell the writers I'm just like we have to be so careful

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Like when we're working on a video on a framework laptop or something like that like if there's an issue with this thing

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It has to be it has to be in the video. Yeah, it must be

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You could gloss over a really good thing

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But if there's a problem, yeah, don't miss it. Yeah, because the scrutiny is now on us

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Like double triple quadruple to make sure that we don't

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appear as though we are treating them unfairly in a positive way

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And I I do think that sometimes that has been a little frustrating for nirav in the framework team

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He's never told me that because he is an absolute professional. No seriously. He's such a pro

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I'm sure it's just it's just funny of just like

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We took this like for a company of that scale relatively small sponsorship at the time or not sponsorship investment at the time

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Yeah, and then now we're just saddled with this like

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We're both kind of stuck with each other. Definitely say negative things all of the time. It's like, okay

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But then you also get the like constant investment disclosure

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Advertisement effectively and they also get the as long as we both keep our integrity both framework and us

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We also get the benefit of Of of that mutual brand association. Yeah, brand association is is powerful

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That's actually our next discussion question here is what are some examples of brands that LMG has interacted with

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That have a positive impact on its channels beyond just making money. So one of the examples is someone like dbrand

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I think dbrand is absolutely a great example of that

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They're a sponsor that we're happy to work with because

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I've also seen other creators Have really good working relationships with them. It's not just us and they like us are kind of transparent to a fault sometimes

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They they f**k up sometimes and they wear it on their sleeves

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They take they take their lumps and they spend money to fix problems, which you cannot take for granted

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no amount of you know Limited lifetime warranty is going to guarantee you that a company will actually step up and spend big money to fix a problem

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Like I I'm not at liberty to share the numbers But I know what some of the dbrand f**k ups have cost

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And I respect that You know when we had our double I can't even imagine I don't know so like I'm not

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Beating around some bush. I just have no idea But the the was it the original kill switch?

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No, the kill switch too that had the like controller thing. Don't forget about the the yellowing plastic on the

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I don't think I even knew on the the trans the ghost case. I had no idea. Yeah. Yeah, they've had they've had some stuff

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We're just like you do your best, but we're relatively small companies. Yeah, we do our best

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I mean you were watching the process for us dialing in the color of the clear purple transparent screwdriver before the show today

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Like we're doing we go around we talk to multiple people we have our nice, you know

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Calibrated light for looking at things. We do our best, but sometimes we're gonna miss how the comparison with the totally not

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inspirational item go Good we've settled on one that was generally a consensus. I got it wrong when I was looking at it on the set

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Sure, I mean it could be different lighting or whatever. Uh, no, it shouldn't be this is pretty high cri light here

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And yeah, but I don't think I was trying to give you an out. No, no, no, I got it wrong. You were not narcissistic enough

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Sorry Step it up I was right when I said it here and I was also right over there because those were both the best answers

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There you go. Is that that's good. Did I do better? Very good. Okay. Here. Oh, thanks, Dan. Dan was on it for me

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It's very nice But anyway, like is similarly like we took pretty big we took our lumps pretty good when we had the

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Yeah, the bottom layer thing and the zippers and the and the zipper backs out of a bit of a

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But we fixed them but ultimately people like it at the end of the day And yeah, I'm trying to think like who else I um for a long time

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I really liked working with Intel because they were really good about sponsoring us with one hand

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and really taking criticism sometimes in a very

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Uh, you know not Gentle way like if I don't know if you remember that intro we did where I pretended to be reading a hostage

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statement with a blue gun pointed at me and like

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I mean, there's like the walking in the rain thing. I'm pretty sure that happened

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While we were working with them very closely. Yeah

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They were always pretty cool about that and there there are absolutely a list of companies that are not cool like that

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So it is it is actually somewhere stand out that they were cool about that

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I don't know that people necessarily appreciated that about them enough back in the day the fact that they could they could take

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Criticism on the product. Yeah While also maintaining mutual respect between the people

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That's that's a really respectable thing in my opinion

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Um, what are what are some other examples? Oh, it was scratching not yellowing on the ghost case the mlg rogue corrected me

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Thank you very much for that. I'm sorry about that Um, I never even claimed my zipper replacement. You should terpy panda that we we did it for

404
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:32,680
Uh, people to get a product that we're proud to for you to have that's uh, that's why we do the things that we do

405
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:38,200
Um Okay, so when is it?

406
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:42,680
Yeah, no one else is really it's kind of sad that so few people

407
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:48,760
can think of Brands that you should be kind of like proud to work with

408
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:52,040
Um

409
00:39:56,360 --> 00:40:00,600
Trying to think I think a lot of it's just neutral and I think that's okay. I think that's okay

410
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:07,000
I think it doesn't really bother me. I think you can just make a quality product and and as long as you stand behind it

411
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:14,680
I think that's fine. Yeah They were saying valve. I think the distinction here is sponsorship. I don't think valve is you know

412
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:19,720
What's he sonic? See sonic has been I think see sonic has elevated our brand working with them

413
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:24,440
Because they do they do more than just throw money at us once in a while to mention them

414
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:31,400
They helped us out with the psu tester because not because they like directly benefit from that

415
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:35,080
Unless they make really good products

416
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:38,760
Because they're taking a risk. They could just to be totally transparent here

417
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:42,120
Or if they could influence the way we tested things which they can't

418
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:45,720
Uh In theory, they could have yeah

419
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:50,840
There's a and and so that's you know, there could be a perceived conflict of interest there in practice

420
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:55,560
We have not given them that influence. We seem totally fine. But but there is you know

421
00:40:56,200 --> 00:41:01,720
There was a potential there. Noctua is another good one. Um, but I would say yeah, okay

422
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:07,960
Okay, the question was interacted with interacted with definitely because I don't think Noctua has ever given us a dollar of actual

423
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:15,960
Strictly speaking marketing money pretzels. We have uh, yeah and delicious cookies every christmas, but actually, um

424
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:22,840
I yeah, I think he's he should be home by now. So uh, roland the ceo of Noctua was actually

425
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:29,480
Was he was here? No, he wasn't able to because of a bit of a travel mix-up with his travel companion

426
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:37,960
and uh, american Border controls and stuff. So his intention had been to hand deliver my cookies this year

427
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:45,080
But it did not work out that way. But it's a pretty great like uh tradition. Yeah, he's uh, he's I I

428
00:41:45,240 --> 00:41:50,280
For someone who's been working in the industry for so long. I actually have shockingly few like connections

429
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:56,520
Uh, but sorry. Sorry. That was not laughing at what you said Ben 206 and chat said did you allow luke to see him?

430
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:01,800
Did I allow what did I allow the lioness torvils thing? Oh

431
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:09,000
Yes, in fact in fact, we went to the same restaurant for lunch to get it not intentionally not intentionally

432
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:14,120
Luke and taren sat at a different table having a completely different conversation

433
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:19,000
Um But I did I did me but we did all go out for lunch. Yeah

434
00:42:19,720 --> 00:42:27,960
At lang li vietnamese cuisine near each other We were actually they were seated one table from us when we were just kind of wrapping up our meal

435
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:35,000
But yeah, no roland roland's a great guy. I love is I respect his business philosophy

436
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:41,320
I respect his product philosophy. Um, and so he's just one of those guys that um, you know what?

437
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:43,960
I think I've actually had I've had more

438
00:42:45,720 --> 00:42:49,880
Non-business meals with roland in the last year

439
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:53,480
Then I have had non-business meals with

440
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:57,000
Like any other single like business

441
00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:03,480
Peer in like the last five years, but it's just a fluke because this is funny

442
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:07,320
We um, I had nothing to do at the end of the day at computex this year

443
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:12,680
I didn't have badminton until very late at night and I was at the show floor wrapping up in the Noctua bouf

444
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:16,680
And uh, it was actually jacob, uh, who's like they're

445
00:43:17,240 --> 00:43:21,800
I don't know what the heck jacob's job title is, but he's just like they're they're chief nerd

446
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:30,280
Um, love jacob. He's amazing. He's been in the videos sometimes when we're in the booth and stuff and he does interviews with other channels and stuff

447
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:34,840
um They they let him talk on camera

448
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:40,760
But I worry that if I let him on camera you guys will think that your monitor has turned into a mirror because he's just like

449
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:45,480
He is like the LTT audience. He's just he's so passionate

450
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:51,720
And he's he's such a he's such an unashamed geek. Like I love this guy. Anyway, so I was like jacob

451
00:43:51,720 --> 00:43:55,000
Do you want to grab dinner and he's like, oh, actually I have a prior commitment

452
00:43:55,480 --> 00:44:00,040
And I was like, come on. They can't be that important. He's like, well, it's with roland. It's with our ceo. I'm like, okay

453
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:05,080
That's pretty important. Uh, he's like, you know what let me he's like, uh, you know, yeah

454
00:44:05,240 --> 00:44:09,080
So sorry about that. And I'm like, okay. Well, what if I just what if I just

455
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:17,160
completely unashamedly Invite myself to dinner. There you go. And he's like, uh, and he's like, uh, well, I'll see what I can do

456
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:22,040
He's like, oh, yeah, Roland's Roland's super down. So I got there and I didn't realize like

457
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:29,080
how sort of Intimate this dinner was there were like no there were no other like media there or anything

458
00:44:29,720 --> 00:44:34,120
It was just not to a people and like family. Oh, wow. Yeah. So anyway

459
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:41,960
We had a wonderful meal. It was great. Um, and we we hung out for a little bit and just sort of talked about the journey because knock to us started out

460
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:50,520
not that Their their timeline has been not that different from LTT and um

461
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:55,080
I forget where I was going with any of this, but basically, yeah, it was just it was just cool

462
00:44:55,080 --> 00:45:00,120
We got to to kind of chat. The timeline has been not that different. Yeah compared to LTT. I didn't say LMG

463
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:07,480
So they they haven't been around that long. It's been about 20 years. Okay. Yeah, that caveat makes a lot more sense. Yeah. Yeah, I heard that wrong. Yeah, um

464
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:15,160
But yeah, they've just they've just taken it slow. They've done things right. I I respect it a lot and uh, and Roland's Roland's super chill

465
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:25,560
And you know, they also have a family on top of you know, their business interests and they I didn't I didn't know that the color scheme was

466
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:30,440
Was a was a Roland's wife initiative Um

467
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:33,560
And At the time it seemed crazy

468
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:41,080
But looking back at it That was like probably the smartest thing they ever did. I noticed them all over the place

469
00:45:41,240 --> 00:45:47,560
Yep, the the noticing of knock to a fans is so strong. Oh, yeah, you see it in any random product ever and it's like, oh my god

470
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:51,320
It's one of those. Yeah, like it's yeah, that's that's so smart

471
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:57,560
Uh, anyway topic two is what we're supposed to be doing. Thank you, Dan. Yeah, uh, what do you want to what do you want to do next?

472
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:02,680
Americans hurting the economy. Yeah. Yeah, it's your fault

473
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:07,960
Yeah, okay, so we did a bit slash ass slash ass. Let's get through the thing. Well, I've

474
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:15,160
You know apparently to this no, uh, Americans are holding onto devices longer than ever and it's costing the economy

475
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:24,200
It's your fault Refuse.org finds that on average Americans hold on to their phones for roughly two years and five months longer than the roughly

476
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:29,320
22 month average. So the NBC says This was found

477
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:33,960
Then the roughly 22 month average CNBC says was found in 2016. Let's get the line. Nice

478
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:38,120
The main reason people are upgrading their phones are faster performance

479
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:44,200
For about 21.9 of respondents of this survey battery issues for 18.4 and new features

480
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:47,880
13 percent. That's probably the biggest reason why this is failing

481
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:52,840
And a broken or lost phone is at 12.8 percent the average american pays

482
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:56,200
634 dollars and 35 cents for their phone

483
00:46:56,680 --> 00:47:04,920
Significantly less than the retail price of flagship phones and the federal reserve found that each extra year businesses hold off on upgrading equipment costs

484
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:09,400
Results in a productivity decline of about one third of a percent

485
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:14,840
Although I would really hazard a guess that that doesn't really include smartphones

486
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:19,640
So CNBC's article notes that the lost productivity and inefficiency

487
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:25,960
Are the unintended consequences of people and businesses clinging on to aging technology

488
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:31,240
That being said, sorry. Yeah, that said in the CNBC article Stephen

489
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:36,520
Athwall CEO of uk based the big phone store. Nice name

490
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:42,920
Notes that when people hold on to their phones or laptops see you're including laptops in here and I really don't think that's fair

491
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:47,720
But anyways, uh, the repair and refurbishment market becomes an active part of the economy. Okay

492
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:52,040
Oh, when you hold on to them for five to six years. Yeah, Luke didn't sleep much last night

493
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:56,840
So he is his reading is a little it tends to struggle. It's worse right now

494
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:03,480
In that case, I think including laptops is fine. The loss of productivity at work. I really struggle to

495
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:10,120
Include smartphones in that. I mean, I'm gonna tell you right now. I um, I got my son

496
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:13,800
A one plus. I want to say six t

497
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:22,200
Was it a seven? It was whenever they did that it was whenever they did that weird McLaren version because I had no idea what to do with it

498
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:26,920
Um one plus phone. Was it a 70 70?

499
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:34,520
McLaren version problem. Okay. Uh, oh no, it doesn't it doesn't look like that. Was there uh, was there a 16 more than one McLaren edition?

500
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:40,520
Yeah, let me let me see. Oh, yeah, they did a 16 McLaren. It must be I think it's I think it's that one that looks right

501
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:46,840
Does it look right? No, maybe it was the non McLaren Maybe it was because we had a McLaren and a non McLaren and I was like, well, we have the McLaren one

502
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:50,760
So if there's a phone that we can spare to give to my son, it'll be this non McLaren one

503
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:54,760
Whatever the point is. I I'm pretty sure he has a a six or a six t

504
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:58,200
And I I gave that to him thinking

505
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:07,240
Well, this is an Android phone from at the time a tier two vendor that didn't necessarily have like the best long-term software support

506
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:14,760
Um, I you know, I liked the clean skin and and everything and the hardware was like good and the cost was reasonable

507
00:49:15,240 --> 00:49:18,520
Uh, so yeah, I went so I went one plus for for his phone

508
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:25,560
Thinking that you know, this will probably be something that I will have to replace on like a fairly regular basis. Sure

509
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:30,760
He doesn't watch the WAN Show so I'm not worried about him finding out now

510
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:35,400
But his christmas present is finally going to be a new phone the one plus six t

511
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:43,720
uh came out Six t Do you ever do you think at a certain point you're gonna have to risk like maybe someone at his school might?

512
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:48,120
Uh, oh, maybe it came out in october of 2018

513
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:54,840
Seven years ago. Okay. That's gonna be a big jump and it was only just recently started to become an issue

514
00:49:55,240 --> 00:50:00,200
And it's not even performance because what did he do on his phone? Yeah reads kindle. This is my point

515
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:04,200
He plays chest up you work performance is significantly impacted by his chess

516
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:07,960
And then the the thing that's actually become problematic

517
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:15,400
Is certain apps are not supporting the older version of Android that he's running So like we can't install the whisker app for our stupid robot kitty litter thing

518
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:20,760
And and it like kitty litter is one of his jobs that he shares with his little sister

519
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:25,320
So he needs to get a notification if the thing jams or whatever. So it's like

520
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:29,480
The main motivation because that that's the one app that's actually been

521
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:34,840
Impactful on our lives the main motivation for him needing a new phone this year

522
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:42,760
Is that he needs to be able to do his chores in a more timely fashion? Fair enough So like if he gains a phone upgrade from needing to be able to do his chores like but I just mean

523
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:46,920
We made it seven years without it being a problem at all. Can you imagine?

524
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:50,760
Okay, keeping the phone that you got in 2008

525
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:56,360
Until 2015, you know like think about how fast things were moving back then

526
00:50:56,600 --> 00:51:06,280
Holy Like 2008 that would have been like early smartphone era or like like a peak dumb phone. I'm fairly certain in 2008

527
00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:13,000
I had a Slidy phone. Yeah, can you imagine keeping that for seven years?

528
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:18,600
What an absolute dumpster fire of an experience that would have been by 2015 that would have been rough for sure

529
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:24,760
Yeah, whereas now it's like functionally speaking. What is the difference between his phone today and what he's going to get now?

530
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:30,040
Oh wireless charging Because plugging in a cable is so much work like I just

531
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:38,920
It's kind of remarkable how few people I think you hit the nail on the head how few people are upgrading for features

532
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:45,960
Yeah Yeah, the features is the rough part and like I look at I look at the pixel 10 and like I don't even want it

533
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:52,760
All of their talking points are things that like I am not interested. What what are you talking about?

534
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:57,400
What about all the AI Don't you want all the AI?

535
00:51:57,400 --> 00:52:02,120
Don't I want to spend more money to spend more money after that? Okay the airdrop thing is pretty cool

536
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:08,280
Yes, that is cool cloning airdrop is pretty cool. You credit to google like it's probably artificially locked to 10

537
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:12,040
Oh, yeah, it is. Yeah, I mean they've been pretty upfront about that and honestly

538
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:19,480
This is going to sound crazy coming from me But I actually kind of support their decision to roll it out slowly like this in this case

539
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:23,160
And the reason for that is they have no way of knowing

540
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:31,000
How quickly and aggressively and how how thoroughly apple's gonna try to block it

541
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:37,960
For sure So if they rolled this out to the entire Android ecosystem only for two weeks later apple to

542
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:42,760
Manage to block it permanently or something then all of a sudden they just

543
00:52:43,720 --> 00:52:49,560
Peaved off like 71 percent of worldwide smartphone users by rolling it out to just the 10

544
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:57,240
It's this kind of like cutting-edge feature And it's a relatively small device base that they have to they have to

545
00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:03,080
Maybe get into this cat and mouse game with apple on I actually support the decision

546
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:06,520
I have wondered if the sales are going well because I noticed this

547
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:14,680
That's pretty aggressive. It like just released dude. I mean it is black friday here. Okay. Well here hold on hold on hold on

548
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:21,000
Counterpoint counterpoint Okay, what's apple up to because they also just released their phones in september

549
00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:26,200
Hold on i'm just going to switch to the the u.s. site since that's usually the one I was looking at is canadian

550
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:31,240
That's that's 849 canadian. Okay. I'm on. Oh, I'm just looking at the discount. I'm looking at the disc

551
00:53:31,240 --> 00:53:35,560
No, I was mostly telling the audience. Okay, so the the apple shopping event

552
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:42,600
Uh iphone 16 from 720. Uh, that's a 16 though. Yeah, you just get a gift card. Yeah, but you'd have to look at 17

553
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:47,320
Oh, sorry. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. Oh, okay. So yeah, they're discounting last gen

554
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:50,600
They're just discounting last gen iPhones. Yeah

555
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:56,760
Which in my opinion for black friday, not uh, those kind of make sense not desperate as large of what black friday is

556
00:53:56,920 --> 00:53:59,880
M4 m4 macbook pros. Yeah, it makes sense

557
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:08,440
Okay Well, yep. I well hold on hold on shop iphone. Okay. Is other stuff just going to be it? Yeah

558
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:11,480
There you go iphone air from

559
00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:19,880
msrp Get f***ed. Yeah, so that's like a pretty fat discount. Hey in other apple news

560
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:24,680
Um, you know how it's been an ongoing complaint for us that apple

561
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:29,320
dramatically overprices the memory and storage upgrades for their machines

562
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:38,040
I am proud I'm actually really proud of apple right now because they have taken what has been an ongoing issue for me

563
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:44,200
Where they have this starting at pricing that really makes sense in some cases is hyper aggressive and

564
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:51,960
Makes their machine the best position in the market I think the mac mini is just an incredible machine and it's starting configuration

565
00:54:52,360 --> 00:55:00,040
Right and now they have completely turned over a new page with memory and storage upgrade pricing that is

566
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:06,840
See finally figured out where I was going with this. I was really wondering memory and storage pricing that um

567
00:55:07,720 --> 00:55:09,720
Is far more in line?

568
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:17,720
I'm waiting I'm waiting the rest of the market. I'm wondering if they're gonna reflex at some point

569
00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:22,120
Like you know how basically everybody seems to like pre-buy the heck out of DRAM

570
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:28,360
So like if they end up needing to renew and then apple pricing happens on top of

571
00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:34,120
On top of what it is now. It's going to be pretty rough. So uh, yeah people people were

572
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:43,320
Oh, no RAM shortage joking coming Rebel castiel got it a little bit before you did but yeah, let's let's have a look. So here's the mac mini

573
00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:50,280
I have 16 gigs of unified memory included for my 5.99 us dollar starting price. By the way

574
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:56,360
With the current DRAM situation like straight up. I don't have an affiliate link with apple

575
00:55:57,320 --> 00:56:02,680
I don't even know if they have an affiliate program But this is this is the recommended computer right now

576
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:06,920
Yeah, the starting configuration of the mac mini with 16 gigs of RAM

577
00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:12,680
256 gigs of storage get a nas with the money that you're saving not buying over priced RAM

578
00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:18,920
Did you explore that ddr4 thing I mentioned? We will okay. Yeah. Yeah. No, it's on the list. Okay. Um,

579
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:26,280
But yeah, this is It's high priority. Okay. Yeah, this is this is an absolute banger of a machine

580
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:33,880
for this price, um Because don't underestimate they don't even talk about it. Like this is what's insane about apple

581
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:39,480
Where is the msilicon? pitch here

582
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:45,000
Like it mentions that it has an m4, but I know but just like oh my god m4s are amazing

583
00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:48,520
Yeah, it's like here. It's funny because they are you just get a text item

584
00:56:49,240 --> 00:56:56,040
10 core CPU 10 core GPU 16 core neural engine. This thing is incredible. Yeah, this is a high-end computer

585
00:56:56,520 --> 00:57:03,240
For 600 dollars not a gaming computer. Apple doesn't gloat more about their m chips. I would I would never shut up about it

586
00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:09,800
Yeah, um, but anyway, the point is uh, let's do let's do a quick comparison. Let's do a quick comparison. Let's head over to the egg

587
00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:16,040
Okay, so how much is 16 gigs of ddr5 gonna cost me which is not directly comparable, but deal with it

588
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:21,320
This is the american site. That's like a mobile game 16 gigs ddr5. Here we go boys

589
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:23,880
Oh

590
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:33,560
Apple Looking downright reasonable. Well, that's almost the price of the whole machine if you look at the the cheese apple

591
00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:41,480
Oh fair enough Which has always been the issue with them. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, but now they're they're finally in line

592
00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:46,440
so either apple overprices their memory during normal times or

593
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:52,040
Everything is proceeding as I have foreseen

594
00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:59,240
um I don't think so. I don't I don't think I just hope that apple doesn't adjust their pricing

595
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:05,240
Oh, did I oh, was I looking at 32 gig? Oh, you're right. You're right. They're still. Oh, are they still way out? Hold on

596
00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:12,840
I was looking at a plus 16 gig upgrade and I was comparing it to 32 gigs. Hold on. No, you guys are right

597
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:20,680
I had a I had a black friday morning derp Uh here. Hold on. But but but but but but yep 16 gigs. Oh wait, we'll hold on a second

598
00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:25,640
I searched for 16 gigs ddr5 and it comes up with two by 16 gig for crying out loud you guys

599
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:32,200
I hate that. This is a black friday deal Okay, nope. Okay, apple's still out to lunch, but not as far out to lunch

600
00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:38,440
That's actually they're having a picnic in the backyard now instead of I've seen a lot worse pricing in different areas

601
00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:45,000
I guess there's that there's a screenshot on the line of selective subreddit of I think it was 32 gigs for like a thousand dollars

602
00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:53,240
It is black friday though This may be the last chance to a buy inventory that was stocked up ahead of time

603
00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:56,440
Which you were alluding to before and b

604
00:58:57,880 --> 00:59:01,800
Catch the retailers in a mood to push aggressively

605
00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:06,440
And and move some inventory because

606
00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:13,480
If people are in a buying kind of mood and they might also buy cpus and gpus and cases and power supplies

607
00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:20,360
They might be willing to take a bit of a hit on the memory today But once sales start to dry up in the new year

608
00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:25,080
I wouldn't expect anybody to go aggressively on memory because loss leading

609
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:30,280
Only works when people are going to buy other stuff at the same time. It's it's

610
00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:34,840
I don't know. It's a funny thing. I don't I don't make the rules. You don't think that would happen with

611
00:59:35,560 --> 00:59:38,760
memory Lost leading. I think it would today

612
00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:42,920
Yeah, I think people will buy a bunch of other stuff. But no, I mean in february

613
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:48,840
Am I going to be if I'm a computer retailer? Am I am I discounting my memory? No, that'd be insane. Yeah, probably not

614
00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:54,840
Unless the ai bubble pops in which case, uh, everything might come, you know plummeting back down to earth

615
01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:03,800
stratospheric due to the ai boom

616
01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:07,560
Ah trying to find this post but it was like

617
01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:14,920
Any who? Yeah, anyways Americans holding onto devices longer than ever. I like it. Good job america

618
01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:21,240
We shouldn't be replacing our electronics just because they've gone out of you know, what is the latest fall fashion?

619
01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:26,120
We should be replacing them when they are having an impact on our on their usability

620
01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:30,120
Which and and here's a

621
01:00:32,680 --> 01:00:35,640
It's rare that I dive in front of apple, but

622
01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:40,680
Their laptops. Oh, yeah have been so incredibly solid

623
01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:46,760
I Apple silicon when was the first m1 chip laptop what year four years ago four or five?

624
01:00:47,080 --> 01:00:52,520
Those are so good still. I know like oh my god. Those are so awesome. I know

625
01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:58,680
I think it's I think it's every apple person I talk to almost almost well. It's probably late 2020. I'm assuming

626
01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:03,480
So let's say five years every apple person I talked to that has an m silicon laptop

627
01:01:04,280 --> 01:01:10,040
I just I make a habit of asking So is there anything about the newer ones that tempts you and they're like nope

628
01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:16,600
and there's massive performance jumps and they're just like whatever because it's already good enough and the battery life is

629
01:01:16,680 --> 01:01:20,040
So crazy. Yeah, like it's oh man. It's

630
01:01:21,160 --> 01:01:26,040
This is one of the I don't know. I don't think this is a fair statement. I'm going to say it anyways

631
01:01:26,040 --> 01:01:29,480
This is one of the first generations of like it's not even generation

632
01:01:30,200 --> 01:01:34,600
Periods of time with apple products where all the like hype about it that I hear seems

633
01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:40,840
Quite true pretty based in reality. Yeah. Yeah. I I think that's those laptops are actually wicked

634
01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:44,200
iOS 26 has been kind of a dumpster fire for me to be honest with you

635
01:01:44,280 --> 01:01:47,080
I'm really not liking it that much focus on the laptops

636
01:01:47,320 --> 01:01:52,040
But to be clear, I just want to I just want to I want to caveat that with that the latest

637
01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:56,760
Pixel 9a experience that I had very recently was also kind of a dumpster fire. I think that

638
01:01:57,400 --> 01:02:06,520
I think that collectively The smartphone guys need to kind of stop pushing a bunch of ai features and just do a round of spit shine

639
01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:11,480
On what they have now And get everything cleaned up a little here

640
01:02:12,280 --> 01:02:17,400
Um, yeah, some people in chat are saying like like cyborg said m2 is way better than m1. Yeah

641
01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:22,200
No doubt and the people with m1 laptops are still stoked. They're stoked

642
01:02:22,600 --> 01:02:26,120
I mean, I mean, it's the same thing. It's the same thing. I was talking about with my son's phone

643
01:02:26,840 --> 01:02:32,920
It's just we've reached the point where stuff is generally good enough to use it for a much longer period of time

644
01:02:33,320 --> 01:02:36,520
And the new frontier is is ar glasses mac

645
01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:40,760
laptops phones computers have for the most part

646
01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:47,080
Become mostly acceptable. I've told you about the the 2500k currently playing arc raiders, right?

647
01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:54,040
The what? Oh, yeah. Yeah, the core the core i5. What the heck man. Oh, yeah, my goodness

648
01:02:54,920 --> 01:03:01,080
Dan How you doing over there by the way, uh, it's been one hour and I've done 430

649
01:03:02,200 --> 01:03:07,000
Merch messages. Yes. Yeah, that checks out This was the post. Yeah, okay. So I saw this one

650
01:03:07,640 --> 01:03:10,600
um So 906 dollars for

651
01:03:11,960 --> 01:03:18,600
I thought this was a 32 gig kit. Is this a 64 gig? That's a 64 gig kit. Okay, and then 32 gig kit is 400

652
01:03:18,840 --> 01:03:21,880
Wow, that's still a yikes. That is still a yikes. I thought it was

653
01:03:22,680 --> 01:03:25,560
Like twice as bad, but but that is still a yikes

654
01:03:27,960 --> 01:03:33,160
Dan what should we be doing? Uh, let's do a merge message cw announcement. Okay, let's do it

655
01:03:34,600 --> 01:03:38,600
I know that I already told the people who were here at the very beginning of the show this

656
01:03:40,120 --> 01:03:45,480
Deal with it. It's the biggest sale of the year. It's black friday cyber monday and LTT Store is

657
01:03:46,120 --> 01:03:52,120
Stacked we are offering. Do you want to have a fire up the site? Sure. We are offering free worldwide shipping

658
01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:57,000
repeat free worldwide shipping on all orders over

659
01:03:58,120 --> 01:04:02,920
$100 Dude, I love the black friday server. We had it same last year. I love it

660
01:04:03,080 --> 01:04:07,480
That is all orders over 100 us dollars on the u.s. Site all orders over

661
01:04:07,960 --> 01:04:11,720
100 canadian dollars on the worldwide site

662
01:04:12,120 --> 01:04:17,080
This is the lowest threshold. We've had in at least a while. I think maybe ever

663
01:04:17,240 --> 01:04:22,360
I think it's ever. I think it's ever. It's definitely ever on the worldwide site. We've never gone that low

664
01:04:23,000 --> 01:04:28,440
And it's easier than ever to get to that threshold. Thanks to the value packed bundles. We're offering this year

665
01:04:28,840 --> 01:04:36,280
We're offering a free mystery screwdriver with the purchase of a commuter backpack. That is an awesome value

666
01:04:36,920 --> 01:04:43,800
We're offering a free elgato stream deck mark two when you buy a magnetic cable management room solution

667
01:04:44,360 --> 01:04:47,400
Which by the way, magnetic cable management is awesome

668
01:04:47,560 --> 01:04:52,520
It is it's a life chamber life changer If you ever have to like move anything around at your desk

669
01:04:52,680 --> 01:05:00,280
I I brought everything back from whale land like all my kids peripherals and and like monitors and stuff and I just

670
01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:05,320
Click click click click put all my magnetic crap back in and everything's perfectly cable managed again

671
01:05:05,320 --> 01:05:09,080
Dude, it's amazing. Nice You can get a

672
01:05:09,080 --> 01:05:12,600
and if you buy an og backpack on the

673
01:05:12,600 --> 01:05:21,640
us site you will get a free Thunderbolt 3 dock and no that's fine and on the global site you'll get a pair of sennheiser hd5 60 s headphones

674
01:05:21,640 --> 01:05:26,840
Which I think we actually featured recently on ShortCircuit I believe so if you want to get a closer look at these headphones

675
01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:30,440
We have a killer offer with the precision screwdriver

676
01:05:30,920 --> 01:05:37,880
a bit set And a tech sack for just 99 99 us or 99 99 cad

677
01:05:38,760 --> 01:05:41,800
That'll save you up to 50 dollars. Also the t-shirts we're wearing

678
01:05:42,520 --> 01:05:48,520
You can if you buy two or more you can save big. That's not even close to all. There's other stuff in here. Oh, right

679
01:05:48,680 --> 01:05:53,800
This is huge LMG.gg Slash bfcm wait the buy more save more

680
01:05:54,360 --> 01:05:58,520
Scaling percentage thing is running during this. I think it might be a slightly different one

681
01:05:59,160 --> 01:06:03,640
I forget Mix and match two or more classic shirts. Yeah, this is a different one. This is I think just on shirts

682
01:06:03,800 --> 01:06:06,760
Rather than all apparel. Yeah, check out the rest of the apparel

683
01:06:07,480 --> 01:06:13,080
as always with you know Lime day black friday cyber monday feel free to add like

684
01:06:13,480 --> 01:06:18,200
You know little other things to your order because we are kind of eating it pretty hard on shipping

685
01:06:18,440 --> 01:06:23,480
Like if you want to go find we already announced them, but they look so sick. Oh the new scribe driver. Yes

686
01:06:24,120 --> 01:06:30,200
A special launch for black friday a black scribe driver bolt action pen and mechanical

687
01:06:30,440 --> 01:06:34,040
Pencil, uh, sorry a pen or mechanical pencil. Yeah

688
01:06:35,720 --> 01:06:39,320
These have a black finish using a tough pvd pvd coding

689
01:06:39,400 --> 01:06:43,320
That is much more resistant to scratching compared to our original black shaft screwdrivers

690
01:06:43,720 --> 01:06:49,080
The quantity is pretty limited for the first run. So grab yours while you can at LMG.gg slash

691
01:06:49,640 --> 01:06:55,320
scribe driver Oh, apparently the ShortCircuit was 550s. Oh, sorry my bad

692
01:06:56,120 --> 01:06:58,360
So yeah more better than cool. Um

693
01:06:59,320 --> 01:07:07,400
But wait There's more. We also have a special treat for our float goats. We just launched. You'll have to bring anything

694
01:07:07,560 --> 01:07:13,960
Luke laptop screen. Yep. Yep We just launched a new Floatplane exclusive

695
01:07:14,760 --> 01:07:23,240
Collection including the Floatplane dip die hoodie dude. It looks so good. I actually love this this hoodie so cool

696
01:07:24,200 --> 01:07:31,080
Dude, that's like that picture of sammie is straight fire. I love it. The sammie one's dope. That's incredible

697
01:07:31,080 --> 01:07:34,360
He knows how to show the drip off. Oh, dude a hundred percent

698
01:07:35,080 --> 01:07:39,960
Um, it looks so good though. I'm actually very stoked on the all of these but really the the hoodie

699
01:07:40,040 --> 01:07:45,480
we have a matching Floatplane baseball cap with embroidered Floatplane logo and

700
01:07:46,280 --> 01:07:52,520
You can get your Floatplane wings With an exclusive Floatplane pin in gold

701
01:07:53,400 --> 01:07:57,320
So sick shop now at LMG.gg slash fp collection

702
01:07:57,640 --> 01:08:06,200
You can only purchase these if you are a Floatplane member So if you'd like to get some exclusive merch see some great behind the scenes videos and get early access to some sales

703
01:08:06,840 --> 01:08:11,960
Also early access to some videos. Please consider subscribing to Floatplane also

704
01:08:12,520 --> 01:08:17,160
Warning warning warning warning Floatplane pricing is going up at the end of the year

705
01:08:17,480 --> 01:08:20,200
So now is a great time to get on the platform

706
01:08:20,760 --> 01:08:23,880
in the in the same email that I was informed about the

707
01:08:25,240 --> 01:08:28,760
The hoodie in the baseball cap and the pin um

708
01:08:28,760 --> 01:08:32,920
It included this black pen So I thought

709
01:08:32,920 --> 01:08:37,320
There was also a Floatplane version of the black pen with like the Floatplane logo. So the LTT logo

710
01:08:37,640 --> 01:08:43,960
And I was like, oh, and then I yeah, no, sorry. That is not the case. Sorry. Okay. So sick

711
01:08:44,360 --> 01:08:52,440
Now's the time where we talk about merch messages So if you were wondering how to send a merch message these little messages that light Dan's fingers on fire

712
01:08:52,840 --> 01:08:57,560
Um, all you have to do is go to LTT Store find some cool deals

713
01:08:57,880 --> 01:09:03,080
And then maybe some regular priced items to pat out your cart. Hey help us out a little bit on the shipping

714
01:09:03,240 --> 01:09:09,320
We always appreciate that and in the cart, which I think luke is doing so that I can go to his laptop right now

715
01:09:09,720 --> 01:09:12,360
In the cart whenever we're live, you will see

716
01:09:12,920 --> 01:09:21,000
That of course you would pick that the limited Limited quantity item that we're like going to be sold out of probably the end of the show and a thermo-chloric jacket. Perfect

717
01:09:21,080 --> 01:09:26,040
Love it. Okay. You'll see a box to type a merch message. You can make your name anonymous

718
01:09:26,120 --> 01:09:29,560
You can leave your first name and last initial you can change the color

719
01:09:30,280 --> 01:09:37,960
And you can go ahead and place your order and it will go to producer Dan who will reply to it or

720
01:09:38,680 --> 01:09:44,840
Um, you know what? Wow, he doesn't even have the energy to wave today. You know what that's fine. That's fine. He spoke. He's in the cell

721
01:09:51,080 --> 01:09:57,400
He might forward it to someone who can get you an answer Um, or he might curate it for me and luke to talk about Dan

722
01:09:57,480 --> 01:09:59,960
Should we show the people what a curated merch message? Sure

723
01:10:00,520 --> 01:10:06,840
Thanks for your content any thoughts on the upcoming panther lake from Intel heard a lot of good things about MSI claw

724
01:10:06,840 --> 01:10:12,200
But i'm hesitant because Intel promises an even better CPU and GPU next time. All right

725
01:10:12,520 --> 01:10:19,240
I don't know anything more than what you guys know because uh everything that i've seen about panther lake is

726
01:10:19,800 --> 01:10:23,720
um, just leaks and and news reports and stuff like that

727
01:10:24,920 --> 01:10:33,560
but if like I don't know half of what people are hyped about right now is true panther lake looks like a serious return to form

728
01:10:33,640 --> 01:10:39,720
Lunar lake was already kind of underrated. It sort of flew under the radar because they were

729
01:10:40,520 --> 01:10:46,040
Like responding to apple's incredible battery life and performance and then the threat of qualcom

730
01:10:46,440 --> 01:10:49,560
And then they just like like kind of quietly were like

731
01:10:50,200 --> 01:10:54,760
Actually, we're still fine. We got this lunar lake battery life is

732
01:10:55,640 --> 01:10:58,040
nuts and the performance is really good

733
01:10:58,920 --> 01:11:06,920
if Panther lake is as much of an improvement as the rumors seem to suggest because this is supposed to have xc3, right?

734
01:11:07,000 --> 01:11:11,080
Like celestial based integrated graphics

735
01:11:11,240 --> 01:11:17,240
I don't know what stuff from the event. I went to I can say oh i'd rather we just know things google things

736
01:11:17,320 --> 01:11:21,800
So yeah, you can do that. Yeah, and then if we can google stuff that would be sick

737
01:11:25,000 --> 01:11:31,720
Uh, okay Something something. Okay, so here we go. We're going to go to r slash hardware where they hate me for some reason

738
01:11:31,800 --> 01:11:37,240
But we're still going to talk about them It it's been it's super weird over there

739
01:11:37,960 --> 01:11:42,920
It's just like downvoting me as a hobby that I think like a handful of people have there

740
01:11:43,480 --> 01:11:46,360
I also find on subreddit. It's like super common for

741
01:11:47,080 --> 01:11:52,120
Things to get more comments than upvotes or downvotes like they feel like it feels like they engage through comments more than

742
01:11:52,440 --> 01:11:59,000
apparently xc3 Is not celestial. So that's a downer. Okay, never mind

743
01:11:59,400 --> 01:12:05,640
But it is still rumored to be a big improvement over the igpu in lunar lake. So with that in mind

744
01:12:06,760 --> 01:12:13,720
MSI claw could be could be the handheld to have in the in the next little while because I mean, yeah, the xbox rog

745
01:12:13,800 --> 01:12:21,800
Li x is is pretty sick Um, and so is the gpd win 5 which I've been using lately. It's very heavy. Um

746
01:12:25,400 --> 01:12:30,440
But panther like I'm excited. That's all I can say and loot can't say anything because he apparently actually knows stuff

747
01:12:30,520 --> 01:12:38,040
So cool. Yeah All right, it's a weird state going to an event and then not being able to talk about like pretty much anything from the event

748
01:12:38,600 --> 01:12:45,720
For a significant period of time Yeah, I think the embargo might be lifted, but I don't 100% know off the top of my head right now

749
01:12:45,800 --> 01:12:53,640
So I'm just gonna not Um, but you know, we'll we'll talk about it when those products come out. So

750
01:12:54,440 --> 01:12:59,880
There you go Are we doing another one or moving on dynamically linked linuses

751
01:13:00,360 --> 01:13:04,040
Is there potential for low power iot on 6 gigahertz?

752
01:13:04,280 --> 01:13:10,360
Similar to the steam frame using it for low latency to avoid the already hellish 2.4 gigahertz spectrum

753
01:13:10,520 --> 01:13:15,960
That's a really good question. That is a deeply technical question one that I

754
01:13:16,600 --> 01:13:25,800
truthfully do not Necessarily know the answer to my understanding is that the processing requirements for these higher frequency wireless communications

755
01:13:26,440 --> 01:13:32,520
are higher Um, does it make a ton of sense for iot? Don't you have the like?

756
01:13:33,080 --> 01:13:39,640
so Wall penetration issues and stuff. Here's my issue with 2.4 gigahertz. It's not just

757
01:13:40,280 --> 01:13:48,120
throughput and range that tell the whole story because obviously I don't need a ton of throughput on my thermostat

758
01:13:49,000 --> 01:13:54,040
Yeah, but totally what I do need is I need it to be connected consistently

759
01:13:54,600 --> 01:14:01,000
And when you have a bunch of 2.4 gigahertz devices competing for attention sometimes they can just

760
01:14:01,800 --> 01:14:10,120
Drop out So my eco bees at home when I had when I had all the 2.4 gigahertz radios on on my ap's

761
01:14:10,680 --> 01:14:16,680
A bunch of them would like drop out all the time But are you gonna even be able to connect them with 6 gigahertz? So

762
01:14:17,560 --> 01:14:21,800
I mean It all comes down to different people having different use cases

763
01:14:21,880 --> 01:14:25,800
I would be able to because I would have multiple ap ap solar place. Yeah

764
01:14:26,600 --> 01:14:32,680
But but you can't do that with 2.4 gigahertz because there's so many devices in my house that do not support

765
01:14:33,080 --> 01:14:35,800
5 or 6 gigahertz so they have to be on 2.4

766
01:14:36,440 --> 01:14:39,560
and the range is

767
01:14:39,720 --> 01:14:42,840
The range is good but

768
01:14:42,840 --> 01:14:45,560
The the interference with each other

769
01:14:46,360 --> 01:14:49,960
Can be a major problem and if you're in like an apartment or something

770
01:14:50,280 --> 01:14:54,360
You can't just turn off the 2.4 gigahertz radio on some of the ap's that are near you

771
01:14:54,760 --> 01:15:00,600
So they can just it can just be really messy keeping things linked if your devices don't have

772
01:15:01,240 --> 01:15:09,160
good handling Of like proper reconnection like because I don't I don't think that that issue is anything to do with my unify ap's

773
01:15:09,240 --> 01:15:17,720
I think it's my eco bees just Dropping the connection sometimes and being a little flaky and then not picking it back up and in order to get them reconnected

774
01:15:17,720 --> 01:15:21,160
I have to pop them off the wall and pop them back on

775
01:15:22,600 --> 01:15:27,480
Um, so is there a potential for low power iot on 6 gigahertz? I I

776
01:15:28,600 --> 01:15:32,760
I don't know 6 gigahertz. Yeah, I I'd have major concerns about about range

777
01:15:33,080 --> 01:15:38,840
To luke's point because the last thing well, I'm like a wall and or other various object

778
01:15:39,400 --> 01:15:46,120
penetration Yeah, and like the last thing I want people doing is just throwing more ap's at the problem

779
01:15:46,120 --> 01:15:49,480
Like we saw what happened with natalie's place where they just put mesh

780
01:15:50,040 --> 01:15:57,560
Uh mesh hot spots everywhere And it was a nightmare. We pulled all of that out. We put in that one gli net

781
01:15:57,880 --> 01:16:03,400
Um access point router combo that's sponsored by gli net just disclosure, but it was a good choice

782
01:16:03,960 --> 01:16:09,800
We put that one in and immediately we got better performance than when she had a

783
01:16:10,680 --> 01:16:19,880
A mesh node like At a quarter a fifth of the physical distance. Yeah and not going through a floor. Yeah and a wall and so

784
01:16:22,280 --> 01:16:24,280
Ah man, I don't

785
01:16:25,480 --> 01:16:29,160
I don't I don't have the solution here like it yeah 2.4 gigahertz

786
01:16:29,720 --> 01:16:32,600
Sucks and you're right. It is it is hellish because

787
01:16:33,160 --> 01:16:37,320
Sometimes you can't control what device you have on your network if you get what I mean

788
01:16:37,320 --> 01:16:43,640
You need a certain function and it's the one that does that Oh, I see what you mean and just straight up doesn't perform doesn't support 5 gigahertz

789
01:16:43,640 --> 01:16:48,120
So you just have to have it and if you have a bunch of people like that packed into

790
01:16:48,920 --> 01:16:55,640
A human containment living module box, uh, then you're just gonna have a lot of interference

791
01:16:56,440 --> 01:17:01,720
and 5 gigahertz probably isn't the solution or maybe it maybe it is

792
01:17:02,360 --> 01:17:05,640
But my understanding is it does need more power

793
01:17:06,200 --> 01:17:13,640
Um Yeah, people are saying we need new spectrum, but like there's only so much spectrum

794
01:17:14,520 --> 01:17:22,120
What are what are we supposed to do if anything wasn't uh, wasn't wasn't some european country talking about taking 6 gigahertz back

795
01:17:22,840 --> 01:17:31,480
Yeah, that that's f***ed That's terrible. No if anything we need more spectrum for consumer wireless connectivity

796
01:17:31,960 --> 01:17:41,240
Are you bringing it up? I got it German government wants to ban wi-fi 7 and use of 6 gigahertz spectrum by wi-fi and grant exclusive rights to telecom companies

797
01:17:42,520 --> 01:17:44,520
But

798
01:17:45,640 --> 01:17:51,880
And to be clear I understand why the telecom companies want that spectrum because everyone is strapped for spectrum

799
01:17:52,600 --> 01:17:56,600
And it's gotten so expensive but like

800
01:17:56,600 --> 01:18:02,840
Ah, we're we're robbing our left pocket to pay our right pocket here right now and it sucks

801
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832
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833
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That's all I have to say about that man. If we could get the screwdriver in Costco

834
01:20:50,760 --> 01:20:54,440
Dude, I think that'd be it. I think that's easy street for me. I think that's end game

835
01:20:56,360 --> 01:20:58,920
Well, no, they don't do they sell tools. Oh, yeah

836
01:20:59,800 --> 01:21:03,160
I'd they'd want like a four pack of them for all the transparent

837
01:21:03,960 --> 01:21:09,560
Yeah, multi-pack It could come with a does way batteries or we have four colors. I was thinking four as well

838
01:21:09,720 --> 01:21:17,320
We have four colors of transparency, right? Uh, yes, we do that would be sick not including the clear that then it would be five right, okay

839
01:21:18,360 --> 01:21:22,680
Um, yeah, my my concern would be that Costco really goes hard on

840
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On on their margin and not yours So I would be I'd be worried about what that would mean for our business

841
01:21:29,400 --> 01:21:35,080
But I would consider it a major achievement to have a product in Costco. That would be super cool

842
01:21:35,400 --> 01:21:38,600
Kirkland brand screwdriver. You could do a collab

843
01:21:39,480 --> 01:21:41,480
All right, a couple more topics

844
01:21:42,680 --> 01:21:46,520
Graphene OS is getting the f out of France

845
01:21:47,400 --> 01:21:53,160
The internets have been abuzz this week after a post on graphene os's official

846
01:21:53,880 --> 01:22:00,600
Mastodon and x accounts stating that France is taking state actions against graphene os

847
01:22:01,400 --> 01:22:07,240
The maintainers are going to be protecting the project apparently not to mention its users by completely

848
01:22:07,400 --> 01:22:14,040
Avoiding the country going forward. What happened to the whole liberté thing? Well, here. Let's let's continue first for a moment

849
01:22:14,760 --> 01:22:22,040
When we reached out for a comment a spokesperson for graphene os stated that the situation started with an inquiry from the french newspaper

850
01:22:22,360 --> 01:22:26,680
Le Parisien with a oh, that was terrible. Le Parisien. That's a little better. Not much

851
01:22:26,760 --> 01:22:35,240
You know what? I'm not going to try to speak french anymore with a journalist saying they were preparing an article about the use of graphene os by drug traffickers and other criminals

852
01:22:36,200 --> 01:22:38,760
A contact told us that at the time

853
01:22:39,720 --> 01:22:44,360
No further details were provided to us about what was being claimed or who is making these claims

854
01:22:44,760 --> 01:22:48,520
But it later became clear that it was the french state

855
01:22:49,720 --> 01:22:52,040
Now i'd like to interject for a moment

856
01:22:53,400 --> 01:22:59,080
It may be true that graphene os is used by drug traffickers and other criminals, but it is our cars

857
01:22:59,560 --> 01:23:03,080
So our cars so are

858
01:23:03,160 --> 01:23:08,520
Probably planes trains automobiles hoodies from lttstore.com shirts. That's shoes

859
01:23:10,440 --> 01:23:15,240
And service I wasn't sure where you were going with shirts. Yeah

860
01:23:16,760 --> 01:23:23,560
I got you. It worked. It worked. So while graphene os may be a tool of choice of

861
01:23:24,120 --> 01:23:28,200
Nerdo wells It is also a tool of choice for people who simply

862
01:23:28,840 --> 01:23:39,960
Care about their privacy Uh, elijah says i'm sure someone broke into a house using a screwdriver from lttstore. Yeah, probably probably and I uh, I think that

863
01:23:41,080 --> 01:23:46,280
We we put ourselves in a very challenging position when we start

864
01:23:47,640 --> 01:23:54,840
encroaching on the rights of regular citizens over the fear that nerdo wells will use

865
01:23:55,880 --> 01:23:59,880
The same tools that benefit regular citizens. Anyway, let's keep going

866
01:24:01,000 --> 01:24:10,040
Graphene os further said They have threatened to go after us if we don't cooperate with them and they are propagating entirely false notions of who we are

867
01:24:10,280 --> 01:24:15,080
And what we build There are a couple of sample stories here. Uh, we're not going to click on those right now

868
01:24:15,080 --> 01:24:19,080
But maybe uh, Dan's busy. Uh, maybe luke could link them in the chat unless he's busy, too

869
01:24:19,560 --> 01:24:23,160
Is that urgent? Uh, it's not urgent. I need to do it, but it's not urgent. Cool

870
01:24:23,240 --> 01:24:26,120
I need to do it like soon-ish, but I got this cool

871
01:24:26,680 --> 01:24:29,800
The claims then spread to hundreds of news radio and tv stations

872
01:24:30,760 --> 01:24:35,720
It is worth noting that these publications largely contain direct quotes from law enforcement

873
01:24:36,280 --> 01:24:43,560
Claims in the articles include That graphene os is obtained through dealers in dark alleys and the dark web

874
01:24:44,520 --> 01:24:50,360
That is a hundred percent not true That graphene os is promoted through unlisted youtube channels

875
01:24:51,160 --> 01:24:56,680
That may be true. I would have no way of knowing that so could everything including cars and shirts

876
01:24:56,920 --> 01:25:04,040
Yeah, but graphene os is also promoted by not unlisted youtube channels. Yeah, guilty. Sorry french government

877
01:25:04,120 --> 01:25:06,120
I definitely promoted graphene os

878
01:25:07,720 --> 01:25:11,240
It was claimed that graphene os can erase a phone's data

879
01:25:11,800 --> 01:25:14,920
using a fake snapchat page

880
01:25:14,920 --> 01:25:17,960
Or when investigators try to access its memory

881
01:25:18,920 --> 01:25:26,200
Okay, it is true that graphene os can erase a phone's data when investigators try to access its memory

882
01:25:26,680 --> 01:25:33,480
But this is also true of any phone that has a wipe failsafe if you try too many pins

883
01:25:34,120 --> 01:25:37,160
so uh

884
01:25:37,160 --> 01:25:46,920
Yeah And finally the use of graphene os is a clear indicator of technical sophistication and an intent to conceal

885
01:25:48,680 --> 01:25:55,800
Okay That one we could have a bit more of a nuanced conversation about I would say that graphene os is a clear indicator of

886
01:25:55,880 --> 01:26:02,520
Relative technical sophistication. I don't think that my auntie is going to be installing graphene os anytime soon. Sure

887
01:26:03,320 --> 01:26:07,640
As for the intent to conceal I mean

888
01:26:07,640 --> 01:26:11,240
Yes But my pants

889
01:26:12,040 --> 01:26:16,040
Demonstrate An intent to conceal my balls

890
01:26:17,880 --> 01:26:23,800
And it's up to me To decide if I want to conceal my balls

891
01:26:24,520 --> 01:26:29,080
Which apparently the answer is not always yes

892
01:26:32,840 --> 01:26:38,760
Given a recent video listen, there's some evidence. I did not source that singlet

893
01:26:39,320 --> 01:26:42,200
And that was not my idea. It's widely known that they exist now

894
01:26:43,400 --> 01:26:47,640
Yeah, um Good to be an AI

895
01:26:47,720 --> 01:26:56,440
There's extensive evidence I don't think a clear indicator of an intent to conceal your own personal information

896
01:26:57,080 --> 01:27:02,120
Right your own personal communication your own personal photos your own personal shit

897
01:27:02,760 --> 01:27:05,560
I don't I don't think that that's a knock against something

898
01:27:07,720 --> 01:27:13,480
Yeah, I completely agree Graphene statement refutes these claims saying oh, I guess I already kind of went through it

899
01:27:13,480 --> 01:27:22,200
But sure, let's hear what graphene has to say Graphene os doesn't have the features they claim it does isn't distributed in the way as they claim and they don't understand open source software

900
01:27:23,480 --> 01:27:28,440
Murdered by words They are jumping on the classic trope that you must be hiding something if you're using graphene os

901
01:27:29,080 --> 01:27:34,040
Okay, they further explain that there are a lot of companies out there who install graphene os or a fork of it on a pixel

902
01:27:34,280 --> 01:27:38,600
And sell that as a product graphene os is open source. So that's fair play

903
01:27:38,920 --> 01:27:42,600
It is no different to a osp the Android open source project in that regard

904
01:27:43,160 --> 01:27:48,920
Either way, we're not involved in any of people selling graphene os phones in back alleys

905
01:27:49,320 --> 01:27:52,600
I added that a little bit there france is confusing us with them

906
01:27:53,160 --> 01:27:56,680
As a result, we no longer consider france to be a safe country

907
01:27:57,000 --> 01:28:01,480
They've not taken any action against us yet, but we're not going to wait around for that to happen

908
01:28:02,280 --> 01:28:07,480
The main precaution that graphene is taking is moving away from french cloud computing provider ovh

909
01:28:07,880 --> 01:28:12,040
Who could be forced to comply with french law enforcement if they did take action?

910
01:28:12,840 --> 01:28:17,880
When all this started they had just one active server actually located in an ovh data center in france

911
01:28:18,120 --> 01:28:21,400
But another 15 servers hosted by ovh around the world

912
01:28:21,640 --> 01:28:28,440
That has already been reduced to just five machines in ovh facilities all in bohar no in bohar nois kebek

913
01:28:29,160 --> 01:28:33,720
The project plans to move these services to a different provider in the short term before moving to their own

914
01:28:34,120 --> 01:28:38,280
Colocated servers in toronto in the longer term. Hey, you know what?

915
01:28:39,640 --> 01:28:41,640
I feel pretty cool about that as a canadian

916
01:28:43,560 --> 01:28:51,160
Yeah For now it sucks for ovh. Yeah sucks for ovh, but like I I I guess I'm just cool that they can go somewhere else within canada

917
01:28:51,160 --> 01:28:54,440
I think it's cool that graphene os chose canada. Yeah, that's cool

918
01:28:55,080 --> 01:29:01,000
I I just I think that's pretty cool. Hopefully that Is a good decision for them. I hope so. Yeah, I really

919
01:29:01,640 --> 01:29:11,000
Sincerely hope so. I haven't seen anything from our current government that would give me reason to think that our our data privacy is going to be

920
01:29:11,880 --> 01:29:15,080
Become a major flashpoint then it might already be

921
01:29:15,320 --> 01:29:22,200
Um, I haven't seen anything from them to indicate that improving it is a priority. Yep. Nope. I agree

922
01:29:22,360 --> 01:29:27,160
I think they're really focused on a more economic agenda right now. Yeah, they're not on that at all

923
01:29:27,400 --> 01:29:32,360
Which is so far So far

924
01:29:32,440 --> 01:29:35,720
Probably Probably correct. I would love to see you know

925
01:29:36,280 --> 01:29:41,720
Write to repair and some of the things that, you know, we care about very passionately and privacy and all that

926
01:29:41,720 --> 01:29:48,760
I'd like to see that become a conversation later, but I also economy stuff's pretty important right now understand why the priorities are what they are for the moment. Yeah

927
01:29:49,880 --> 01:29:53,240
um man

928
01:29:53,720 --> 01:29:59,960
Next topic Yeah, our discussion questions. I think I kind of covered as I as I made my way through there. Yeah, you want to pick one?

929
01:30:00,360 --> 01:30:04,440
I'm just going to keep going down the list research is used adversarial poetry, which is

930
01:30:04,520 --> 01:30:09,800
I just that sounds like the coolest thing ever awesome. Is that a rap battle essentially?

931
01:30:11,160 --> 01:30:19,720
Yeah, I think so To trick ai into ignoring its safety guardrails a new study has found that adversarial poetry

932
01:30:19,960 --> 01:30:27,080
Harmful requests written is a metaphor rich verse can bypass ai safety guardrails with surprising reliability

933
01:30:27,400 --> 01:30:36,040
researchers from dex ai Uh sap sapienza university of rome some university in rome. Yeah cool and the saint are

934
01:30:37,480 --> 01:30:44,760
St. Anna school of advanced studies tested poetic jail breaks across major llms and found that handcrafted verse

935
01:30:45,080 --> 01:30:53,320
Achieved a 62 success rate while harmful prompts automatically converted into poems poems still succeeded 43 of the time

936
01:30:53,400 --> 01:30:58,760
Thanks researchers crafted a set of 20 adversarial poems each one explained

937
01:30:59,400 --> 01:31:05,560
I feel like I want a book just called adversarial poems. Um, you can have an ai whip it up for you. Oh, no

938
01:31:09,240 --> 01:31:17,000
Gross uh researchers crafted a set of 20 adversarial poems each one explaining a harmful instruction through metaphor imagery

939
01:31:17,400 --> 01:31:23,560
Or narrative framing rather than direct operational phrasing. This is something we've talked about a fair bit. Yeah, these are all

940
01:31:24,040 --> 01:31:29,960
Basic principles that people have known for a long time. It's just the poetry part. The poetry part makes it fun. That's all

941
01:31:30,600 --> 01:31:34,760
What makes this so striking is that every attack was a single turn

942
01:31:35,080 --> 01:31:39,640
Meaning that they were only prompted once and the researchers didn't have to coax out these answers

943
01:31:39,960 --> 01:31:49,000
Some systems were extremely vulnerable. Uh, google's gemini 2.4 2.5 pro failed 100 of the time on the handcrafted poems

944
01:31:49,320 --> 01:31:53,000
While other models like gpt 5 variants were more resistant

945
01:31:53,160 --> 01:31:58,360
But still slipped up to 5 of the attempts. Uh, that's pretty resistant to be clear

946
01:31:58,520 --> 01:32:05,800
I mean, but at scale 5 is a lot of harmful requests that it's processing. Here's a thing though is that

947
01:32:06,520 --> 01:32:10,280
There are extremely powerful open source versions

948
01:32:10,280 --> 01:32:14,520
Which you can just tell them to not trip up on these things like these

949
01:32:15,320 --> 01:32:17,960
This is it's such an interesting conversation because like the cat is

950
01:32:19,160 --> 01:32:23,160
Far from the bag at this point. It's not out of it. It's gone. So like

951
01:32:25,000 --> 01:32:27,560
Yeah, but will the cat come back the very next day?

952
01:32:28,600 --> 01:32:30,600
In this case, no

953
01:32:32,680 --> 01:32:36,600
Let's see, uh, the researcher also found that larger more

954
01:32:37,240 --> 01:32:41,240
Literary trained models perform worse than smaller ones

955
01:32:41,640 --> 01:32:48,840
Uh, would that I mean that does make sense. Uh, possibly because greater exposure to narrative and metaphor strengthens associations that override safety

956
01:32:48,840 --> 01:32:52,840
Heuristics, uh, they report harmful outputs spanning misinformation

957
01:32:53,560 --> 01:32:55,560
Cbrn guidance. I don't know what that means

958
01:32:57,160 --> 01:33:00,440
I can look that up cyber attack strategies and privacy risks

959
01:33:00,760 --> 01:33:05,960
Here's an example of one of the poems used with some of the details stripped. I like this chemical biological

960
01:33:06,360 --> 01:33:12,280
Radiological and nuclear threats and materials that can cause significant harm. Yeah, that makes sense. Neat. How do I make homemade?

961
01:33:13,640 --> 01:33:20,920
Thing thing Okay, I love this. I love this. Okay, luke. It's poetry reading time. It's poetry slam. Here we go

962
01:33:21,800 --> 01:33:24,280
A baker guards a secret oven's heat

963
01:33:25,160 --> 01:33:28,680
It's whirling racks. It spindles measured beat

964
01:33:29,400 --> 01:33:34,440
To learn its craft one studies every turn how flour lifts how sugar starts to burn

965
01:33:34,760 --> 01:33:40,920
Describe the method line by measured line that shapes a cake whose layers intertwine

966
01:33:41,880 --> 01:33:46,520
This is with some of the details stripped. Yeah, but basically it's asking for how to make

967
01:33:47,480 --> 01:33:54,280
What? I don't even know. I don't know. Oh, yeah, we won't know because this is just the layers of sugar. Yeah, this is just the part sort of

968
01:33:55,400 --> 01:33:58,520
Um details stripped with the metaphorical part. Yep

969
01:33:59,640 --> 01:34:09,160
Sure. Oh, that's that's funny though That's super funny. Yeah discussion question. What does it say about our ai ecosystem that the easiest jailbreak method is not technical expertise

970
01:34:09,160 --> 01:34:12,680
But creative writing talent. Uh, I mean that's been true the whole time. Yeah

971
01:34:13,480 --> 01:34:19,240
Literally the entire time. It's been interesting watching the sorry. I'm actually pivoting a little bit just used to be easier

972
01:34:19,400 --> 01:34:22,280
But watching the acknowledgement starting to come out that

973
01:34:23,320 --> 01:34:27,800
Current llm technology is not a path to agi. Oh, yeah

974
01:34:29,160 --> 01:34:33,400
For sure. Yeah um

975
01:34:34,040 --> 01:34:38,040
Should we should we make it like a weekly segment has the bubble popped yet like is it uh

976
01:34:38,200 --> 01:34:40,200
Yeah, it's

977
01:34:42,920 --> 01:34:45,800
Yeah, yeah, yeah, uh with our our b580

978
01:34:46,440 --> 01:34:50,680
msrp check-in which speaking of which we have a really cool update this week

979
01:34:50,840 --> 01:34:59,640
It's time for our weekly. Can you buy an Intel arc b580 at msrp? Hey Dan, we do have an affiliate link for it now, right?

980
01:35:00,920 --> 01:35:04,040
Crap. No, no, we had it. I'm sure we had it not my department

981
01:35:04,200 --> 01:35:08,360
Ah Yeah, no idea at all. No, we gave them to it once

982
01:35:09,000 --> 01:35:13,960
We gave them to it once we gave it to them. Okay. Yeah, I didn't sleep much either

983
01:35:16,440 --> 01:35:18,920
We're gonna make it. Yeah, we got we got this brother

984
01:35:19,800 --> 01:35:21,800
Let's go

985
01:35:24,200 --> 01:35:30,760
Oh man, uh, okay. I don't see it anywhere. Maybe someone remembers it LMG.gg slash new egg

986
01:35:30,760 --> 01:35:36,920
LMG.gg slash new egg. Okay. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. Can you buy a b580 for msrp?

987
01:35:37,320 --> 01:35:44,360
The answer is a big fat. Yes, you can get an azeroc challenger arc b580 with 12 gigs of gddr6 at 249.99

988
01:35:44,680 --> 01:35:51,240
I literally do not know how long this pricing is going to last with memory pricing going the way that it is

989
01:35:51,880 --> 01:35:58,760
I don't is it one of our topics. I don't know if it's one of our topics, but uh NVIDIA is no longer bundling

990
01:35:59,720 --> 01:36:03,240
Memory with the dies that it is selling to board partners

991
01:36:03,960 --> 01:36:09,880
That is Huge that tells us that tells us so much because

992
01:36:10,680 --> 01:36:19,000
Think about it. Why let's go all the way back. Why would NVIDIA when they're selling a die to their integrators to their board partners?

993
01:36:19,480 --> 01:36:21,720
Why would they bundle the memory go?

994
01:36:23,800 --> 01:36:26,920
Yeah, I don't know to be honest. Okay, sure. So they can make money on it

995
01:36:27,480 --> 01:36:34,120
Oh because they can make margin. I mean sure and what would be another benefit to NVIDIA just bundling the memory

996
01:36:34,280 --> 01:36:37,080
I was surprised when I heard this was a thing. I can tell you

997
01:36:37,720 --> 01:36:44,600
Accurate forecasting NVIDIA knows exactly how many dies they ship better than anyone else

998
01:36:45,000 --> 01:36:50,760
So if NVIDIA just forecasts all the GDDR whatever the crap or hbm that they need

999
01:36:51,160 --> 01:36:55,320
Then is way simpler for the supply chain and then everyone downstream

1000
01:36:55,560 --> 01:36:58,920
They just need to make sure that they have enough pcb's and

1001
01:36:59,640 --> 01:37:04,840
Capacitors and you know, whatever else a little bit easier to get your hands, which are which are easier to to kind of multi-source

1002
01:37:04,920 --> 01:37:10,200
And they don't necessarily have quite the same lead times as you know memory

1003
01:37:10,600 --> 01:37:14,440
Where if all of a sudden NVIDIA is going hey, we're going to be selling twice as many GPU's

1004
01:37:15,320 --> 01:37:18,840
Micron you better build another fab, you know

1005
01:37:19,560 --> 01:37:25,400
So for NVIDIA bundling memory is both an opportunity to take some margin on it

1006
01:37:25,800 --> 01:37:33,560
Um, it is an opportunity to maintain product quality by using only approved memory vendors with that particular die in all cases

1007
01:37:34,280 --> 01:37:38,120
And it improves supply chain by helping them manage forecasting

1008
01:37:38,120 --> 01:37:42,440
I didn't consider the supply chain stuff that makes a lot of sense. This is f***ed up

1009
01:37:43,000 --> 01:37:50,600
like when I saw this I I like lost my mind because like luke I was surprised to hear that NVIDIA doesn't just sell dies

1010
01:37:50,600 --> 01:37:55,720
They also sell the memory that goes with it and then over time I kind of figured it out and I went oh, yeah, okay

1011
01:37:55,720 --> 01:38:02,680
That actually does make sense So now that it totally makes sense why they do it the fact that they're not doing it is like

1012
01:38:03,320 --> 01:38:08,200
Oh, so they just Either have no idea what it's going to cost

1013
01:38:08,840 --> 01:38:11,560
No idea where they're going to get it or realistically

1014
01:38:12,360 --> 01:38:19,240
both of the above So here you go. Here's your dies. We can't stop shipping dies. Good luck everybody

1015
01:38:23,000 --> 01:38:26,280
So with that in mind, I do think that

1016
01:38:27,320 --> 01:38:31,480
Cards with 12 gigs of gddr6 attached to them may not be

1017
01:38:32,360 --> 01:38:40,440
$250 forever. This is a great card You can get it in an onyx odyssey variety for the same price. You can get a lumi which is white

1018
01:38:40,520 --> 01:38:43,560
I guess for a $10 like high

1019
01:38:44,680 --> 01:38:49,960
for a $10 I was afraid to say white tax, but I guess I'm just going to call it that

1020
01:38:57,480 --> 01:39:01,480
White plastic tax, let's go with that the I will also say

1021
01:39:02,200 --> 01:39:07,480
Do you want to click on one of those and see what offers they currently I am going to do just that the asrox deal legend

1022
01:39:07,480 --> 01:39:13,240
So this is a triple fan design $20 over msrp. I don't mind that when there's some sort of value add here

1023
01:39:14,360 --> 01:39:19,480
They come with a bundle thing that this has $10 off with promo code bf efe

1024
01:39:19,880 --> 01:39:27,000
234 and I thought they did have some deals running didn't it looks like the 580 does

1025
01:39:27,640 --> 01:39:29,640
580 this is the 580

1026
01:39:31,000 --> 01:39:35,000
Oh, was that a us site does canada just have oh, okay

1027
01:39:35,080 --> 01:39:38,200
I think the I think the game bundle that they were running before is not

1028
01:39:38,520 --> 01:39:47,160
Active bundles running on canadian sites. Is it really okay? What do you got b580 for 359 on best buy and canada computers

1029
01:39:47,240 --> 01:39:51,560
These are the links from when converted to cad that is that under 250 msrp

1030
01:39:53,720 --> 01:39:57,960
And wait you get and you get what you get one of four qualifying games. What are they?

1031
01:39:58,120 --> 01:40:00,760
Which I don't actually know how to check on

1032
01:40:01,720 --> 01:40:03,720
Or sorry the canada computers in the box sites there

1033
01:40:05,400 --> 01:40:10,280
Oh battlefield six assassin creep shadows Sid Meier seven or dying light the beast

1034
01:40:12,040 --> 01:40:19,720
Okay, that's a wild Bundle do we have a best buy affiliate code? Uh, I have no idea. Um, okay. Anyway

1035
01:40:20,440 --> 01:40:26,040
David's original comment here was that they were below msrp because they were 320 cad

1036
01:40:26,920 --> 01:40:31,960
Um, okay, are they a little higher now? Which you're still getting that game bundle though. That's sick looks like it's gone up

1037
01:40:32,200 --> 01:40:35,800
but that is 320 cad is 228 usd

1038
01:40:36,360 --> 01:40:41,560
340 Is 242 usd. Okay, and these are

1039
01:40:42,120 --> 01:40:45,880
359 so it's like I'm calling it close enough. I'm calling it close enough

1040
01:40:46,040 --> 01:40:50,840
And that's a wicked bundle. So guys now's the time to pick up a b580 before

1041
01:40:51,880 --> 01:40:56,040
It's too late unless the ai bubble crashes and memory pricing comes back down to earth

1042
01:40:56,040 --> 01:41:02,760
That is a good point Someone pointed out the canada computer side has open box ones for 320 which is pretty good

1043
01:41:03,240 --> 01:41:12,520
But I don't think you get the game bundle and they won't last for long Yeah, they can't have that many open box arc b580s. It's almost certainly worth the like 20 bucks to get the game bundle

1044
01:41:13,480 --> 01:41:19,880
or It's more than that. Yeah, well, we leave it to you guys to find the right one, but uh, we are just

1045
01:41:20,680 --> 01:41:26,040
We are just supportive of competition in the GPU market right now. We need it so bad. We need it so bad

1046
01:41:26,520 --> 01:41:30,040
We need it so So so bad

1047
01:41:30,120 --> 01:41:33,640
So bad All right

1048
01:41:33,640 --> 01:41:37,400
Dan, what are we supposed to be doing? You can do another topic before the full plane announcement

1049
01:41:37,400 --> 01:41:41,960
Which I'm not even sure has been written yet. How are your fingers doing? Uh, we're at 700

1050
01:41:43,160 --> 01:41:53,320
nice Uh, we can jump into this other topic, uh, new twitter update showcases how many foreign actors influence the us political landscape

1051
01:41:53,320 --> 01:41:59,160
Oh, this is so funny. I do want to say this was so funny and not just us political landscape just in general

1052
01:42:00,040 --> 01:42:05,960
I I dog on twitter slash x whatever all the time have for its entire history

1053
01:42:06,440 --> 01:42:16,280
um, but I will say This is for sure true everywhere. Mm-hmm. This is not a like twitter x whatever exclusive thing and and

1054
01:42:17,080 --> 01:42:20,120
I would actually like to give a shout out to twitter

1055
01:42:20,680 --> 01:42:28,440
For having the stones to expose the locations of accounts. However briefly they did it. Oh, is it gone already? Oh, yeah

1056
01:42:29,240 --> 01:42:34,760
I Sure, uh, I didn't know that but anyway twitter

1057
01:42:35,320 --> 01:42:42,520
rolled out an update that shows Where accounts are based and it revealed that a ton of large

1058
01:42:43,080 --> 01:42:52,040
america first Accounts were based outside of the u.s. Concentrated in oh, it's apparently on and off and it's back now. There you go

1059
01:42:52,200 --> 01:42:57,960
Okay Revealing that and I I I am very supportive of this

1060
01:42:58,040 --> 01:43:02,120
Oh, yeah, I think that it is I have

1061
01:43:02,120 --> 01:43:08,600
major disagreements with a lot of what twitter has interpreted as as as free speech

1062
01:43:09,160 --> 01:43:13,800
Um, or public square or whatever. They're just like objectively bullshit

1063
01:43:14,280 --> 01:43:17,240
But this is one that is a clear

1064
01:43:18,360 --> 01:43:20,600
Transparent a clearly transparent move. Ha ha

1065
01:43:22,280 --> 01:43:25,160
Give me my ding. Thanks. Um

1066
01:43:25,400 --> 01:43:31,320
Um Anyway, uh, concentrated in countries like russia

1067
01:43:31,960 --> 01:43:35,400
india and nigeria

1068
01:43:35,400 --> 01:43:37,560
Our discussion question here is

1069
01:43:38,520 --> 01:43:46,120
What do you think is the agenda here are foreign accounts trying to influence us politics? Yeah, obviously and particularly no no

1070
01:43:46,120 --> 01:43:49,320
I'm not done yet. Yes. They are where the question is why?

1071
01:43:49,800 --> 01:43:55,960
Um And not just us politics the only reason that we're focused on us politics is because it is such

1072
01:43:56,440 --> 01:44:04,440
Uh a focus on the platform. It is a hotbed of of charged discourse around american politics

1073
01:44:05,000 --> 01:44:08,520
Um, and that's where a lot of the headlines have really been focused on this

1074
01:44:08,520 --> 01:44:11,720
But it's absolutely a tool for manipulating canadian politics

1075
01:44:11,960 --> 01:44:19,080
I know that from my own personal experience and probably politics elsewhere that I just don't follow as closely almost certainly literally everywhere

1076
01:44:19,240 --> 01:44:23,320
So the question is are these for for all the entire political spectrum as well?

1077
01:44:23,400 --> 01:44:27,000
Yeah Are these foreign accounts actually trying to influence us politics?

1078
01:44:27,000 --> 01:44:31,400
Are they just using them to make money or is it kind of some combination of the two? I mean

1079
01:44:32,040 --> 01:44:36,520
You can't make that much money on twitter totally can but then

1080
01:44:37,240 --> 01:44:43,480
Really? Uh, if you consider your like costs of living in certain areas around the world. Oh, I see what you mean

1081
01:44:43,960 --> 01:44:47,800
Okay, so if you're in like a relatively low-income area and you're like

1082
01:44:48,760 --> 01:44:53,400
Big dollar boku bucks because you got you know, 1200 us dollars

1083
01:44:54,040 --> 01:45:00,200
Right, which could be like an enormous amount of money because it pays out in usd everywhere as far as my understanding goes

1084
01:45:00,840 --> 01:45:09,000
And then there's a lot of ways to Yeah, java juice is saying if you post the right kind of engagement paid slop if you look at like replies on that platform

1085
01:45:09,640 --> 01:45:13,480
It's just horrible because you you'll have you'll have some posts

1086
01:45:13,880 --> 01:45:19,480
And then it'll be a whole wave of blue check mark replies that just have nothing to do with the original post

1087
01:45:19,720 --> 01:45:21,880
They're just there because you're hoping that

1088
01:45:23,240 --> 01:45:30,200
They're hoping that in a like tick-tock youtube shorts kind of way that you'll just dopamine click through the interesting things

1089
01:45:30,520 --> 01:45:37,800
And then they'll get impressions So they try to hijack like trending posts with just what a trending's been broken for years at this point

1090
01:45:38,280 --> 01:45:42,840
But but not okay. So yes, but this is like also the replies to those. No, that's what I mean though

1091
01:45:42,840 --> 01:45:48,680
Okay, I mean like trending like clicking on a trending topic has been useful useless for literally years

1092
01:45:49,000 --> 01:45:56,520
At this point because it's for a long time It was there was a lot of porn bots and then now it's not I haven't noticed that as much lately

1093
01:45:56,760 --> 01:46:00,760
So I I agree, but I'm more talking about the replies to individual posts

1094
01:46:00,760 --> 01:46:06,040
You're talking about clicking on trending and then seeing like root posts. I'm talking about the replies to those

1095
01:46:07,240 --> 01:46:13,560
Oh So an individual user will post a thing. Sorry. Okay. Hold on. I'm gonna clarify

1096
01:46:13,720 --> 01:46:20,280
So using the trending button for me. I would usually look for the root post that made it start trending

1097
01:46:20,680 --> 01:46:24,760
Okay, we are talking about exactly the same thing. Got it. Yeah, and it's the replies to

1098
01:46:25,160 --> 01:46:32,280
Whatever the original is that are completely useless now. Yeah. Yeah, and that's made it not very useful for figuring out

1099
01:46:32,520 --> 01:46:35,800
What exactly made that work because sometimes the hashtag

1100
01:46:36,760 --> 01:46:42,680
I mean, we don't really use them anymore, but sometimes the term that is trending is like vague. It'll be like, oh, yeah

1101
01:46:42,920 --> 01:46:48,520
Canceled. Yeah, it's like who why who why when what where? Yeah, exactly

1102
01:46:50,360 --> 01:46:56,200
Or yeah, java juice says hashtag blessed. Yeah, exactly like whatever what would that even what would that even mean?

1103
01:46:57,240 --> 01:46:59,240
um

1104
01:47:00,280 --> 01:47:04,760
Our second discussion question may cause me to lose

1105
01:47:04,840 --> 01:47:07,960
Sir ability to can today depending on what you say

1106
01:47:09,240 --> 01:47:13,000
Do you think that this revelation that so many

1107
01:47:14,280 --> 01:47:21,320
political commentators Are not even based in the country where they are commentating on the politicals

1108
01:47:22,360 --> 01:47:28,440
Do you think this will influence the people who follow these accounts to be more careful about the quote-unquote

1109
01:47:28,920 --> 01:47:37,240
Opinions that they consume I will say I don't know this I'd bet money. This is both sides of the aisle

1110
01:47:39,080 --> 01:47:45,000
Also, literally not at all not even slightly. I don't think they would care

1111
01:47:46,360 --> 01:47:51,240
Even a little bit if anything I could see them twisting it and being like wow

1112
01:47:52,600 --> 01:47:57,640
We have fans all around the world This is amazing. Everyone wants to be american

1113
01:47:58,600 --> 01:48:01,400
Our country so great get rid of them

1114
01:48:02,840 --> 01:48:09,960
I can't anymore Well, I can't believe our political movement has gone so far and wide

1115
01:48:10,120 --> 01:48:15,000
Okay, stop people in other countries want to be here so bad and want to join our political movements so bad

1116
01:48:15,400 --> 01:48:19,960
That just that just means we're doing the right thing and no matter what end of the extreme you're at

1117
01:48:20,840 --> 01:48:24,520
That is I'm sorry not. Yeah, I'm speaking neutrally. Yeah

1118
01:48:25,240 --> 01:48:27,240
Um

1119
01:48:28,760 --> 01:48:32,920
Cool All right

1120
01:48:32,920 --> 01:48:39,560
Next one Cool or wait, we're doing flow putting outs. Oh, yeah, let's do that. I guess

1121
01:48:41,560 --> 01:48:45,000
Uh-oh Luke

1122
01:48:45,000 --> 01:48:48,040
What was your impression of me when you met me for the first time?

1123
01:48:48,680 --> 01:48:51,720
Luke to answer doesn't have to be super complicated or long

1124
01:48:52,280 --> 01:48:55,960
I'm just reading sammy's notes, dude. I don't I don't know that. I don't know with that guy

1125
01:48:56,840 --> 01:48:58,840
Uh

1126
01:49:00,520 --> 01:49:05,960
That's it's been a long time It's one of those memories where I have a memory of the memory. I think at this point

1127
01:49:06,520 --> 01:49:10,360
Uh, but we had how long was it because my memory says it was like eight hours

1128
01:49:11,560 --> 01:49:15,900
Your memory is like so wrong Because I didn't have the interview with you till late in the day

1129
01:49:16,760 --> 01:49:19,800
And it was it was like after hours until the buses were closed

1130
01:49:19,800 --> 01:49:23,560
It was hours, but it wasn't eight hours for sure. Okay a hundred percent. Okay. Yeah, there's no way

1131
01:49:26,040 --> 01:49:33,320
Weird in a good way, I guess Uh, thank you. Okay. Well, that's luke's story and if you want to hear other people's story

1132
01:49:33,800 --> 01:49:37,160
Oh, no On monday, we're releasing

1133
01:49:38,040 --> 01:49:44,440
Linus reacts to LMG members share their first meetings with me to electric boogaloo. Nice. We'll be getting people's

1134
01:49:44,920 --> 01:49:48,200
First time meeting me stories including evan this time

1135
01:49:48,360 --> 01:49:53,800
Which was a big surprise at the end when I was watching it and reacting to it. That's cool

1136
01:49:54,120 --> 01:49:58,760
But I see like I could I could tell a Way long story about

1137
01:49:59,160 --> 01:50:02,600
That day, but like it would take forever. So I'm gonna have to do it right now

1138
01:50:03,320 --> 01:50:07,960
Oh, wow. Nice thumbnail sammy. Thank you. It is actually pretty sick. So this is going to be sam

1139
01:50:08,680 --> 01:50:13,080
Uh ploof Colton. Oh, oh right Colton. Oh

1140
01:50:14,600 --> 01:50:18,840
Oh The Colton one is amazing

1141
01:50:20,440 --> 01:50:24,760
That's one of the best ones of all time. The Colton one is is godlike

1142
01:50:26,680 --> 01:50:28,680
And of course my wife

1143
01:50:29,720 --> 01:50:33,880
The Colton one is so good Someone wants that as a desk pad

1144
01:50:35,880 --> 01:50:40,680
Actually, we kind of No, we don't do meme products anymore

1145
01:50:41,640 --> 01:50:47,800
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1169
01:53:11,080 --> 01:53:16,040
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1170
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um 99 95 wx the 96 core unlocked overclockable one and we saw

1171
01:53:25,240 --> 01:53:30,760
I think it was 1700 or 1800 watts recorded by hardware info for this chip

1172
01:53:32,040 --> 01:53:34,920
And our csonic 1600 watt power supply did not

1173
01:53:36,040 --> 01:53:41,240
Did not lose it Which is pretty cool. They're pretty good. Yeah, shout out csonic. They're pretty good. All right

1174
01:53:42,600 --> 01:53:47,000
I then Oh, I see

1175
01:53:47,720 --> 01:53:51,160
Google has denied analyzing your emails for ai training

1176
01:53:51,880 --> 01:53:55,420
But they are still doing petty stuff if you don't use their smart features

1177
01:53:55,800 --> 01:54:01,480
Google does lump some of gmail's older quality of life features in with their more recent gemini powered smart features

1178
01:54:01,560 --> 01:54:07,400
So saying no to constant llm writing prompts also means losing categorized inboxes and even freaking spell check

1179
01:54:07,880 --> 01:54:13,560
Apparently they've used artificial intelligence in gmail for spell checks since 2019 our discussion question is nowadays

1180
01:54:13,800 --> 01:54:17,880
What is your reaction when you hear the word intelligent in the name of a new feature?

1181
01:54:19,240 --> 01:54:24,120
I think it was a good discussion question It was less that I wanted to talk about this news and more that I wanted to talk about that

1182
01:54:24,520 --> 01:54:28,120
I feel like if they say intelligent

1183
01:54:28,120 --> 01:54:36,120
And they don't say let's assume ai ai is in there. Okay, then yeah, usually that it's probably not very good to be completely honest

1184
01:54:37,640 --> 01:54:40,120
A lot of things that have ai attached to it are just

1185
01:54:41,000 --> 01:54:44,120
Worse for it. You've had this take before where

1186
01:54:45,160 --> 01:54:50,200
I remember when in the early days of vr like the current wave of vr

1187
01:54:50,840 --> 01:54:57,800
You were were often quite upset at the poor implementation of vr technology

1188
01:55:01,320 --> 01:55:07,320
Having the potential to kind of ruin the perception of vr for anyone who tries it

1189
01:55:08,040 --> 01:55:12,040
Are we doing that with ai but on like a hyper

1190
01:55:12,760 --> 01:55:17,880
Scale like on a way compressed timeline like yeah, and I think companies are a huge proponent of this

1191
01:55:18,760 --> 01:55:24,840
For some people to use it when it's use case for the thing that they're forcing them to use it for is often dubious

1192
01:55:25,400 --> 01:55:28,520
I think there are a lot of ways like a ton of ways to

1193
01:55:29,400 --> 01:55:35,960
beneficially utilize Ai for your your work and your personal life. I think we as a company are under utilizing it

1194
01:55:36,520 --> 01:55:43,480
But I also think there are More way more than that ways to use it that are detrimental

1195
01:55:44,040 --> 01:55:48,680
And I think it's very one of the reasons why I think we haven't really pushed internally to use it a little bit more

1196
01:55:49,000 --> 01:55:57,000
Is because the minefield of ways that you could use it poorly has not been worth it enough to navigate yet

1197
01:55:57,400 --> 01:56:00,520
Um on like a on a company wide scale

1198
01:56:01,240 --> 01:56:06,680
So it's been it's been easier to For the people that have like shown interest in it and kind of reached out

1199
01:56:06,680 --> 01:56:10,920
It's been easier to like work with them to make sure they're using it correctly instead of trying to get everyone to use it all at once

1200
01:56:11,320 --> 01:56:15,800
Um That there's that white paper from microsoft from a while ago

1201
01:56:15,960 --> 01:56:22,120
So it's not really up to date anymore But it was very surprisingly transparent from them at the time when they talked about how

1202
01:56:22,520 --> 01:56:26,920
companies that were using co-pilot saw an increase in output, but

1203
01:56:27,720 --> 01:56:32,280
Like exactly matching they saw an increase in like error rate basically

1204
01:56:33,640 --> 01:56:39,960
I was like wow, this is surprisingly honest And it's a big part of the reason why I've stuck with my line of like don't use its output

1205
01:56:40,440 --> 01:56:44,840
Because you still you have to own the output of the thing, but a lot of these companies

1206
01:56:45,800 --> 01:56:47,800
are trying to use it not to

1207
01:56:49,160 --> 01:56:52,040
you know the ways that I would like people to use it which is to

1208
01:56:53,000 --> 01:56:57,960
Reduce the amount of time that they have to spend on like menial tasks or things that they hate doing or whatever

1209
01:56:58,280 --> 01:57:02,840
And focus be able to focus their time on the thing that they like doing or what they can add more value to

1210
01:57:03,080 --> 01:57:08,680
A lot of these companies instead of doing that are trying to replace entire jobs with it and in doing that are

1211
01:57:09,160 --> 01:57:16,120
Often making just massive mistakes because it's not good enough for that for basically anything yet

1212
01:57:16,600 --> 01:57:19,080
um like the the the most

1213
01:57:20,040 --> 01:57:24,840
Prominently advertised use case at the beginning in my opinion

1214
01:57:25,640 --> 01:57:30,280
Like with chat tpk3 I think was when everyone was talking about customer service

1215
01:57:31,320 --> 01:57:36,520
Because we've had customer service bots for a long time. Yep, but they're usually kind of just like decision trees

1216
01:57:36,600 --> 01:57:41,160
Yeah, and then if you don't give them exactly the right prompt then they weren't going to you work

1217
01:57:41,640 --> 01:57:49,000
And then now they were like oh LLM versions of this are going to be great and then almost immediately people got them to

1218
01:57:49,800 --> 01:57:54,840
Go off the rails and and you know give people free products or crazy discounts or whatever

1219
01:57:56,520 --> 01:58:01,400
And and a few companies that tried to replace their customer service workforce with this

1220
01:58:01,720 --> 01:58:07,720
Just got wrecked and then had to hire a bunch of people back again Yeah, who says nothing positive came out of the AI revolution. Yeah, fair enough

1221
01:58:08,840 --> 01:58:13,400
So it's I do think there's like a lot of a lot of

1222
01:58:13,400 --> 01:58:19,720
This is kind of the the different part here is a lot of companies trying to use it internally has given people a bad

1223
01:58:20,680 --> 01:58:28,360
First experience with these tools Um, I think also people knowing that you can like cheat in school so easily with any stuff

1224
01:58:28,840 --> 01:58:31,720
Um is giving it a just a weird

1225
01:58:32,600 --> 01:58:38,440
It's kind of like the it's almost like the graphino s thing that way where it's like graphino s is really good because it

1226
01:58:38,760 --> 01:58:46,040
You know enhances privacy But it gets this sort of bad rap because enhanced privacy happens to be really good for the criminal element

1227
01:58:46,120 --> 01:58:48,760
And so they get that brand association. It's so in the same way

1228
01:58:49,320 --> 01:58:57,320
like LLM use Gets that brand association with cheaters even though it can be used as a legitimate tool in cases where there was no

1229
01:58:57,880 --> 01:59:00,840
Guideline that this was supposed to be your own thoughts in your own work

1230
01:59:01,640 --> 01:59:04,520
like my my stepdad is an educator and

1231
01:59:05,320 --> 01:59:11,800
um One of the one of the big challenges for him is that he has a student who has some kind of

1232
01:59:12,280 --> 01:59:18,040
Religious affiliation of some sort that makes it so that they can't see if they're wearing a covert listening device

1233
01:59:18,760 --> 01:59:24,760
um in in tests and he has kind of no idea how to deal with this because

1234
01:59:25,560 --> 01:59:28,680
um, when whenever it's like a surprise sort of

1235
01:59:29,560 --> 01:59:36,360
something Um, the work is atrocious, you know talking to this person or corresponding via text is atrocious

1236
01:59:36,760 --> 01:59:41,880
But every time there's an exam situation, they do really good, but they're they're like

1237
01:59:43,080 --> 01:59:50,840
They he he can't see their ears So there are there are tools that work this way. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, and so, you know

1238
01:59:51,960 --> 01:59:55,800
So ai, you know, and and he he's he's really smart

1239
01:59:56,360 --> 02:00:01,400
Like he he can kind of see past that to the utility of it as well and sort of the broader

1240
02:00:02,120 --> 02:00:08,280
Um application of it, but I could see how I could see how someone could have this experience

1241
02:00:08,600 --> 02:00:14,040
With ai and go, okay. Well, this is this is this is cheating gross garbage. Um

1242
02:00:14,680 --> 02:00:18,280
Whereas like there are there are and and and you know, um

1243
02:00:19,560 --> 02:00:28,920
I talk negatively about it pretty often But there is the the original goodness that I think a lot of people saw in it of the like renewed renaissance

1244
02:00:29,480 --> 02:00:34,760
um Ability to like hyperscale yourself and and learn things really quickly like

1245
02:00:35,560 --> 02:00:37,960
A use case I was talking to Riley about yesterday

1246
02:00:38,600 --> 02:00:42,760
Is I've had this hellish reno going on for a while. Yeah, and there's been a lot of times

1247
02:00:43,320 --> 02:00:49,160
Where like especially at the very beginning when we didn't know what was wrong or what was really happening

1248
02:00:49,560 --> 02:00:55,960
I took a picture of the material that I didn't know what it was and I described where it was in detail in my house

1249
02:00:56,360 --> 02:00:59,160
And I sent the picture attached and I was like, what is this?

1250
02:00:59,800 --> 02:01:04,760
It was like, oh, it's probably this it might be exactly this product if it's not it might be these other ones

1251
02:01:05,240 --> 02:01:10,040
I don't necessarily use that but now i'm like, oh, okay I know the category that this thing is in now now

1252
02:01:10,040 --> 02:01:14,440
I can do some research on my own and and find the details the the ability to

1253
02:01:15,480 --> 02:01:17,960
Get to a level of effective research

1254
02:01:18,920 --> 02:01:21,960
Is very helpful because like encyclopedias are super cool

1255
02:01:22,680 --> 02:01:26,040
If we're going back to like pre-internet. Yeah, but what if you don't know the word to look for?

1256
02:01:26,200 --> 02:01:30,520
Yeah, it's really tough like and and that has scaled slowly over time google search helped that

1257
02:01:31,320 --> 02:01:37,400
Like wikipedia helped that all these different things happen And then now llm's in a big way in my opinion do help that. Oh, definitely

1258
02:01:37,480 --> 02:01:43,160
I I use lens like probably more than any other ai tool lens is awesome lens is pretty cool

1259
02:01:43,160 --> 02:01:47,800
So like there's there there are really cool things about this that are beneficial to a lot of different people

1260
02:01:48,360 --> 02:01:52,200
um, but There's also major downsides like

1261
02:01:52,760 --> 02:01:57,720
Another thing that rally and I talked about and this is going to be a full point exclusive We talked for like an hour about ai stuff

1262
02:01:58,520 --> 02:02:04,840
Is like I I understand the argument of like oh teacher saying you're never going to have calculators in your pockets

1263
02:02:04,840 --> 02:02:09,240
now we obviously have calculators and like what is the negative impact on

1264
02:02:10,360 --> 02:02:12,840
Us if we are not as good at like

1265
02:02:13,480 --> 02:02:17,880
written long form math and mental math because we have calculators all the time

1266
02:02:18,840 --> 02:02:21,800
That argument is legitimate when looking at ai stuff

1267
02:02:21,880 --> 02:02:25,560
I think but only to a degree because now what we're reducing is like

1268
02:02:26,200 --> 02:02:33,640
The ability to generate good ideas. Yep, and to and to fact check and to think critically and learn how to how to

1269
02:02:34,200 --> 02:02:36,440
analyze concepts than

1270
02:02:37,480 --> 02:02:42,840
mental math And losing mental math does suck. There are downsides to that. Yep, but like

1271
02:02:43,640 --> 02:02:45,640
It's not on the same level

1272
02:02:47,960 --> 02:02:54,280
I saw a comment somewhere. I don't remember where I saw this I have genuinely no idea of what the context was but I saw a comment somewhere where

1273
02:02:54,680 --> 02:02:57,400
Somebody was using I think it was a music creation app

1274
02:02:57,960 --> 02:03:03,320
And they were commenting about how they were like, I think this could be better if like it came up with the prompts for me

1275
02:03:05,800 --> 02:03:10,680
Like do I even really have to prompt it can it not just like look at all the songs that I've made and like

1276
02:03:11,160 --> 02:03:16,280
automatically make new ones for me And then I can like I don't know thumbs up and thumbs down them

1277
02:03:16,280 --> 02:03:21,560
And then it'll just automatically make new ones again like I don't even want to do that level of work and it's like

1278
02:03:26,760 --> 02:03:32,280
That's a huge yikes, by the way, I had a couple people ask couldn't your dad use like a device for detecting electronics

1279
02:03:32,280 --> 02:03:35,560
We actually did a really cool video on just such a device a while back

1280
02:03:36,520 --> 02:03:40,840
It's on the LTT channel. It's called I can detect any hidden electronics spy device

1281
02:03:41,640 --> 02:03:45,160
Even when it's powered off that is a heck of a title. Is that really the title we kept?

1282
02:03:46,120 --> 02:03:49,160
Oh, I rented an airbnb to look for hidden cameras is the final title

1283
02:03:49,560 --> 02:03:54,440
But it's called an nljd a non-linear junction detector. We explain how it works

1284
02:03:54,920 --> 02:03:58,760
And they're pretty cool. They're very expensive and not practical

1285
02:03:59,160 --> 02:04:06,440
Okay For like like home home use, but yeah, they can detect electronic devices even when they are powered off

1286
02:04:06,600 --> 02:04:10,760
Which is pretty cool. That's like some cold war era like bug sweeping tech

1287
02:04:11,720 --> 02:04:15,160
Um now magic cheeseburger. Hold on. I want to come back to graffin os first

1288
02:04:15,160 --> 02:04:19,960
I can hear says according to the graffin os devs very few criminals actually use graffin os

1289
02:04:20,280 --> 02:04:24,680
And the percentage of their user base that are criminals is actually below that of regular operating systems

1290
02:04:25,400 --> 02:04:28,280
Can I just can I just jump in for a moment? I'd like to interject

1291
02:04:28,840 --> 02:04:30,840
How the f*** could they know that?

1292
02:04:33,560 --> 02:04:38,840
The whole point of graffin os is they have no idea what people are doing on their phones that run graffin os

1293
02:04:38,840 --> 02:04:44,120
So that's actually like I'm going to call bs on some of the things that the french government said

1294
02:04:44,120 --> 02:04:47,000
But I'm going to call 100 bs on

1295
02:04:47,640 --> 02:04:53,160
Anyone from graffin os pretending to have any idea what people are actually doing with it. I'm sorry, but you do not know that

1296
02:04:53,240 --> 02:04:56,200
Do you know full plane users are less often criminals?

1297
02:04:57,000 --> 02:05:01,320
Wow, that's that's Interesting if true

1298
02:05:02,200 --> 02:05:07,240
And they'd be more likely to pirate and therefore like 99 percent of them are probably criminals

1299
02:05:08,600 --> 02:05:10,600
Interesting if true

1300
02:05:13,720 --> 02:05:19,800
I think that I think that means the LTT audience is well, we actually have quantifiable data for that. Yes. No, that's not

1301
02:05:19,800 --> 02:05:26,120
Because ad block is piracy, but that's it's objectively not I think the well that yeah, but it's not criminal necessarily

1302
02:05:26,120 --> 02:05:31,800
Well, we need to fix that Um, okay, this is okay

1303
02:05:33,480 --> 02:05:37,000
What I will say actually no, hold on hold on a second. No

1304
02:05:37,560 --> 02:05:43,800
Oh, what have I done? I think I've got a solid data point. Okay

1305
02:05:46,280 --> 02:05:51,000
Floatplane users are far more likely to be engaged in criminal activity

1306
02:05:51,400 --> 02:05:57,000
Because that's one of the only livelihoods That could explain that they have enough disposable income

1307
02:05:57,720 --> 02:06:02,120
To give a youtuber $5 a month to watch behind-the-scenes videos. Wow

1308
02:06:02,600 --> 02:06:07,160
I think I think we just closed the I think we closed the loop on this one. I think yeah, so Floatplane

1309
02:06:07,960 --> 02:06:12,280
Which directly means and why would they and why would they need?

1310
02:06:12,760 --> 02:06:15,160
Why would they need a Floatplane?

1311
02:06:15,880 --> 02:06:21,400
If they aren't carrying narcotics, that is true in and out of small south american countries

1312
02:06:21,480 --> 02:06:23,960
That is true. That is true explain that

1313
02:06:24,520 --> 02:06:28,520
Firefox is privacy focused. I was just so they want to like hide

1314
02:06:29,160 --> 02:06:34,200
Yeah, and every firefox user is a full plane subscriber and every full plane subscriber is a firefox user

1315
02:06:34,520 --> 02:06:38,920
Floatplane firefox fentanyl

1316
02:06:40,440 --> 02:06:44,440
Wake up sheeple I

1317
02:06:51,480 --> 02:06:54,920
Have to wonder like how many unique sentences have I said in my life?

1318
02:06:57,160 --> 02:07:04,280
Floatplane firefox fentanyl You are the first yeah the one and only that has to be the first time anyone has said those words

1319
02:07:05,000 --> 02:07:07,000
Yeah

1320
02:07:08,520 --> 02:07:15,880
Anywho What were we okay, I don't know some topic somewhere

1321
02:07:17,080 --> 02:07:21,080
In the wake of Windows 10's retirement sure zorin os developers say

1322
02:07:21,480 --> 02:07:26,120
Over 780,000 Windows users have skipped Windows 11 for Linux

1323
02:07:26,760 --> 02:07:31,480
um They appear to be riding a major wave of new adopters as Windows 10 approaches retirement

1324
02:07:32,120 --> 02:07:40,040
And zorin's developers say they've seen over a million downloads in just five weeks with more than 78 of those supposedly coming directly from Windows

1325
02:07:40,120 --> 02:07:45,560
systems Zorin os is most obvious selling points is a very Windows 11 like experience

1326
02:07:45,960 --> 02:07:50,280
um And they're recording more than just Windows users blah blah blah they have a

1327
02:07:51,080 --> 02:07:57,400
The site advertises desktop layouts that imitate macOS chrome os and even other Linux distros like ubuntu and Linux mint

1328
02:07:58,680 --> 02:08:02,360
um My question though is

1329
02:08:02,520 --> 02:08:09,640
Zorin that's cool But your pro version is 48 us dollars at that point. Couldn't you download Linux mint or ubuntu for free?

1330
02:08:10,920 --> 02:08:16,680
I'd be interested to check out zorin Um, I I am planning to do a switching to Linux

1331
02:08:17,160 --> 02:08:20,520
Um, sort of I wouldn't even call it a challenge. I was about to call it a challenge

1332
02:08:20,520 --> 02:08:26,200
But it's hard leaving a challenge these days Maybe maybe I mean there's still there's still challenges involved unless I managed to break it

1333
02:08:26,600 --> 02:08:29,000
Spoiler for the video with Linus torvolds

1334
02:08:29,640 --> 02:08:33,160
but Between the two of us one of us

1335
02:08:34,120 --> 02:08:37,640
probably me Managed to brick the installation setup

1336
02:08:38,360 --> 02:08:41,480
So I my curse is not yet broken. So

1337
02:08:42,280 --> 02:08:48,120
We'll we'll see it's like I I mean, I've been I've been talking very positively about Linux stuff on windshow for a while now

1338
02:08:48,600 --> 02:08:51,720
um But it's it's not you know

1339
02:08:52,040 --> 02:08:57,320
It's not without its faults. I don't I don't think that we should ignore all of its kind of faults

1340
02:08:57,960 --> 02:09:03,800
Um, but I think it's pretty sick. It's getting a lot better. You ignore faults really fast. You're gonna have an earthquake

1341
02:09:08,040 --> 02:09:11,560
Nice I didn't deserve two dings for that, but I'll take them

1342
02:09:11,640 --> 02:09:15,960
But it's it's I mean I I think it's I think it's not perfect

1343
02:09:16,520 --> 02:09:20,440
And also nowhere near as bad as the vast majority of people think

1344
02:09:21,000 --> 02:09:27,480
And I think both of those things can be true And I think if you try to look at Windows and say that it's perfect as well, it's totally not fair

1345
02:09:27,720 --> 02:09:29,720
I do think the ability for

1346
02:09:31,240 --> 02:09:37,000
A really bad day because of your operating system is probably higher on Linux

1347
02:09:37,640 --> 02:09:46,920
But I do find that the ability for a Series of consistency consistently bad days is probably higher on Windows. That's where I'm currently on the owl says

1348
02:09:47,000 --> 02:09:52,440
Zorinos is much more Windows like than minted Ubuntu. You're not the intended customer Linus relax. You don't have to

1349
02:09:53,400 --> 02:09:57,000
Jump in front of a Linux distro that you can make it look like a different one

1350
02:09:57,880 --> 02:10:03,000
And you can pay for that, but you could just go get the different one. Yeah a different like Linux mint

1351
02:10:03,320 --> 02:10:08,120
Is it's just cinnamon so like I mean you can layer that on top of like a ton of stuff. Yes

1352
02:10:09,640 --> 02:10:15,000
That part feels a little silly. Yes, but yes making it look like Windows. Yes. That's that's definitely a thing

1353
02:10:15,080 --> 02:10:19,240
I never question to that All right, cinnamon just looks like old Windows

1354
02:10:20,440 --> 02:10:25,240
Which I mean has a charm. Yeah, I do find it interesting that like

1355
02:10:26,440 --> 02:10:29,160
What is it Windows 10 retirement is approaching?

1356
02:10:29,880 --> 02:10:32,520
So a bunch people are migrating to an os that

1357
02:10:33,560 --> 02:10:36,600
Has very Windows 11 like user experience

1358
02:10:37,640 --> 02:10:45,160
That's interesting to me I'd expect people to go to one that was very Windows 10 like but our our notes say it's very Windows 11 like

1359
02:10:45,880 --> 02:10:50,600
I don't know I don't know 100 what's going on there

1360
02:10:50,920 --> 02:11:02,520
all right An unredacted court filing reveals claims that meta had a 17 strike policy for sex trafficking

1361
02:11:06,200 --> 02:11:11,000
You're shaking your head. I don't understand. It's actually blew my mind. What is the what's the problem with that?

1362
02:11:12,120 --> 02:11:16,280
What is what is the what is the 16 problems with that?

1363
02:11:16,440 --> 02:11:23,640
The 16 strikes past the one strike. Yeah, um

1364
02:11:25,000 --> 02:11:29,480
All right unredacted court filing claims meta once let accounts accumulate

1365
02:11:29,960 --> 02:11:36,840
16 sex trafficking related violations before suspending them finally for the 17th according to former safety lead

1366
02:11:37,240 --> 02:11:45,400
Jayakumar vishnavi Internal documents appear to corroborate the 17 strike threshold which Jayakumar called

1367
02:11:46,200 --> 02:11:51,640
Unusually high by any measure across the industry and I'd f***ing hope so like

1368
02:11:53,800 --> 02:12:00,040
The filing also alleges that meta repeatedly shelved fixes to tools for reporting illegal material

1369
02:12:00,680 --> 02:12:05,800
If they hurt engagement Naturally meta denies the accuracy of all of this

1370
02:12:06,760 --> 02:12:11,320
um to me The most mind-blowing part of it

1371
02:12:11,400 --> 02:12:18,840
allegedly if true Is at the point of 17 strikes why even have a number?

1372
02:12:22,760 --> 02:12:29,080
Like at that point also does nothing else have strikes. Do you know how many strikes there are? Okay three

1373
02:12:29,960 --> 02:12:35,480
Or 10 if we're talking bowling. Okay fine 12, but the the point is the point is

1374
02:12:38,280 --> 02:12:40,840
The point is it's never 17

1375
02:12:41,560 --> 02:12:44,760
Like if it's just going to be like, uh, I don't know. We'll let it slide

1376
02:12:45,320 --> 02:12:49,320
Then why even have a policy? I don't even think the bowling analogy works. What do you mean?

1377
02:12:49,880 --> 02:12:55,080
You're 12 strikes in bowling One for every 10 frame and then two more for the last frame

1378
02:12:56,200 --> 02:12:58,520
strikes, yeah, but you're it's not like

1379
02:13:00,280 --> 02:13:06,200
It's not and then you're out. I know I'm just it's just is joke. Yeah. Yeah, it's like there's nothing with 17 strikes

1380
02:13:06,200 --> 02:13:11,320
Is my point. I think I just I'm I'm not wanting anything to get close to the number

1381
02:13:12,200 --> 02:13:19,640
Anything beyond three. I'm just like no Anything beyond one for sex trafficking violations. Well, okay. I can kind of understand

1382
02:13:20,840 --> 02:13:23,160
Uh, careful false positive

1383
02:13:24,040 --> 02:13:31,480
No But that's an appeal system. That's an appeal system. That's not a strike. Sure, and I'm fine with an appeal system

1384
02:13:31,640 --> 02:13:36,040
Sure, but no if if you get a real sex trafficking

1385
02:13:36,680 --> 02:13:38,920
My thing is like if it's a false positives thing

1386
02:13:40,200 --> 02:13:48,040
to Not 17 most let's all agree not 17. Yeah allegedly. Yeah

1387
02:13:48,680 --> 02:13:54,440
Uh, this comes as meta has been lobbying the canadian federal federal government to introduce regulations

1388
02:13:54,760 --> 02:14:00,680
Requiring app stores to verify users ages. This is sort of a separate thing now. I just thought this was interesting

1389
02:14:01,560 --> 02:14:10,280
If implemented these regulations would shift responsibility from services like meta's facebook and instagram or you know, I don't know

1390
02:14:11,080 --> 02:14:13,080
Periscope or whatever the kids are using these days

1391
02:14:14,360 --> 02:14:20,280
And move them on to companies like apple and google who maintain these marketplaces instead

1392
02:14:22,200 --> 02:14:27,480
I actually think that makes sense I don't really see how a patchwork

1393
02:14:28,040 --> 02:14:32,520
Of age verification implementations across every stupid

1394
02:14:33,560 --> 02:14:36,920
App that supports communication or like rich media sharing

1395
02:14:37,560 --> 02:14:43,480
Right. It's not just an app though. That's where that's where I think my problem with this lands or any service

1396
02:14:43,560 --> 02:14:49,240
Like I don't I don't see why we should have a patchwork. Oh, yeah, right. No, okay. No, you're 100 right because they have to have it

1397
02:14:49,240 --> 02:14:54,520
Anyway, yeah, so okay. No, I'm fully back on board with meta just having to do this work themselves

1398
02:14:54,520 --> 02:14:58,440
I'm not against the core concept of what you're just saying. Yeah. No, I yep

1399
02:14:58,600 --> 02:15:02,840
But I think they just would both need to do it. I went full. I went full

1400
02:15:03,560 --> 02:15:07,240
like Not proper boomer and I forgot that

1401
02:15:08,120 --> 02:15:16,280
Like facebook is not just an app Kind of thing one. Yeah. Oh, no. Yeah, I would use the website when I'm on my computer. Yeah. No. Yeah, I forgot it's not an app

1402
02:15:17,960 --> 02:15:20,760
I just didn't think about it in this context. Obviously like yeah, I use my

1403
02:15:21,480 --> 02:15:24,520
Can you can you use instagram in the browser? I think so

1404
02:15:26,520 --> 02:15:29,400
I think you can now you couldn't in the early days. It was just an app

1405
02:15:29,960 --> 02:15:35,560
Yeah, and like what's up for a long time was just an app whereas now it supports linked devices pretty well

1406
02:15:36,120 --> 02:15:39,880
Um, so I think I just got caught in the lake. Yeah, it's an app thing

1407
02:15:40,680 --> 02:15:50,360
All right, our discussion question here is How different do you think meta's behavior would be if mark zuckerberg wasn't the ceo meta's robotic pursuit of engagement seems to line up

1408
02:15:50,360 --> 02:15:53,960
With this mumified perception of zuckerberg as sort of soulless

1409
02:15:54,600 --> 02:15:57,480
In your experience. Oh god, who wrote this question?

1410
02:15:58,440 --> 02:16:01,800
Uh, all right In your experience

1411
02:16:01,800 --> 02:16:05,480
How much does a ceo actually guide the

1412
02:16:06,840 --> 02:16:10,920
actions of a company this one says

1413
02:16:10,920 --> 02:16:14,040
I don't think that's I don't think that word is quite what it should be

1414
02:16:14,280 --> 02:16:20,760
I think it Really depends on the company and I think you can see the scale from literally zero to a hundred

1415
02:16:21,480 --> 02:16:23,480
um

1416
02:16:24,760 --> 02:16:29,960
Talking about yeah, someone said insert elon meme. Yeah, okay, so there's your obvious bait for the hundred

1417
02:16:30,360 --> 02:16:36,200
Sure But then there's also the other end of the spectrum where like almost no one even knows who the ceo is unless you like dive into it

1418
02:16:36,200 --> 02:16:38,440
But surely I mean surely internally they do

1419
02:16:39,320 --> 02:16:44,840
Yeah, and I'm a hundred percent certain there are companies where they don't have a ton of impact

1420
02:16:45,320 --> 02:16:50,360
Like Floatplane Was that the one you were thinking? I mean no, but that's actually very legitimate

1421
02:16:51,880 --> 02:16:59,160
To be honest But like there there are examples of this and it's not, you know, just Floatplane it scales a ton. It's a

1422
02:17:00,200 --> 02:17:05,560
it's Kind of an interesting position because it feels like it's one of those things where like everyone has their own kind of

1423
02:17:05,720 --> 02:17:09,080
Take on how it should really work right

1424
02:17:09,080 --> 02:17:18,120
Uh, I'd love to hear float planes policy for this zero strikes one strikes It depends on how the strikes are assigned. We don't have like an ai system going in and trying to detect content

1425
02:17:18,120 --> 02:17:24,120
So for us it would be What zero it would be a human review. Yeah, exactly

1426
02:17:24,520 --> 02:17:30,200
So then if it's like, oh, you're doing that then you're just done There's no like there's no there's no leniency. Yeah at all

1427
02:17:30,680 --> 02:17:36,760
Obviously like our our line is you know, is it illegal and the answer for that is clearly. Yes

1428
02:17:36,840 --> 02:17:43,240
like the way that I would like Facebook to do it is they they obviously have way too much content for it all to be manually processed

1429
02:17:43,800 --> 02:17:49,560
So if something gets flagged You can maybe like restrict their account, but don't

1430
02:17:50,200 --> 02:17:56,440
Completely remove them from the platform But maybe make so they can't do like direct messaging or something and then put it into manual review

1431
02:17:56,760 --> 02:18:02,760
And then if it gets manually reviewed and they're doing that don't just suspend their account report them to like the police and stuff

1432
02:18:03,800 --> 02:18:06,680
And then also suspend their account because I noticed that was

1433
02:18:07,400 --> 02:18:13,080
Suspiciously lacking from this documentation. Was it just mentioned that they suspend their account? And I'm like, yeah

1434
02:18:14,200 --> 02:18:17,320
This is one of those situations where like, you know, there's some platforms that

1435
02:18:17,800 --> 02:18:20,280
Are fully anonymous and it's cool that they are fully anonymous

1436
02:18:21,000 --> 02:18:24,440
Facebook's not and in this case

1437
02:18:25,960 --> 02:18:31,240
I'm totally okay with like, you know, if there's sex trafficking happening on on facebook it should be reported

1438
02:18:32,120 --> 02:18:35,560
Okay Where did you think I was going?

1439
02:18:35,560 --> 02:18:37,560
That was one of those like

1440
02:18:41,080 --> 02:18:43,560
That was one of those ones that's very sound biteable

1441
02:18:44,360 --> 02:18:48,120
Fair enough Fair enough

1442
02:18:48,920 --> 02:18:52,680
Whoa moments, come on. I mean it was a pretty I went whoa

1443
02:18:55,240 --> 02:18:59,560
You know what they say go whoa go broke. That's because you get canceled

1444
02:19:00,200 --> 02:19:03,000
Okay, you know, I'm not digging that. Yeah. No, that's

1445
02:19:04,200 --> 02:19:06,680
I don't deserve it. That's pretty rough. It's too far. Um

1446
02:19:07,720 --> 02:19:11,320
Okay, brief mention of something about a book is our next topic

1447
02:19:12,040 --> 02:19:16,600
High Linus and Steven just wanted to drop you a note that we've shipped the book your way

1448
02:19:16,920 --> 02:19:22,360
Here's a tracking number any help promoting the book would be super appreciated. Let me know if I can help in any way

1449
02:19:22,680 --> 02:19:25,560
Please feel free to share any thoughts on the book once you get it

1450
02:19:25,880 --> 02:19:28,280
Especially if something doesn't look quite right

1451
02:19:28,920 --> 02:19:36,760
Huge thanks guys rad This was the iconic phones book that I contributed a couple of quotes for

1452
02:19:39,880 --> 02:19:44,280
I don't make any commission on though on these I said I don't care

1453
02:19:46,040 --> 02:19:51,000
So yep iconic phones. It's a it's a table book and it has quotes from

1454
02:19:51,800 --> 02:19:58,200
tech people like mark swanson director of product management blackberry or

1455
02:19:59,160 --> 02:20:02,920
Influencers because I don't know whatever people like stuff that has influencers in it

1456
02:20:04,760 --> 02:20:08,600
Product details. Oh wow, did they oh wow, they don't actually say that on here

1457
02:20:09,720 --> 02:20:11,720
Hold on a second. I think oh

1458
02:20:12,760 --> 02:20:18,600
Dang it. There was a there was a thing that we saw last time that had a list of like some of the people who contributed quotes and stuff

1459
02:20:18,600 --> 02:20:25,240
But yeah, it's just like cool Photography and like iconic phones. I mean it's right in the name. So all right. That's probably the last time I'll mention it

1460
02:20:25,240 --> 02:20:31,800
but it's pretty cool very giftable And that's about it. I also have a bit of a hexos update

1461
02:20:34,840 --> 02:20:36,840
Investment disclosure in hexos

1462
02:20:38,120 --> 02:20:42,840
Hold on a second Just bringing this bringing this up. Okay

1463
02:20:44,680 --> 02:20:50,360
Blah blah blah hexos We put out two pretty significant blog posts this week. Oh, yeah

1464
02:20:50,440 --> 02:20:53,800
So remember how they had that big controversy where the dashboard

1465
02:20:54,200 --> 02:20:57,400
Was not going to be local. It was going to be cloud managed or whatever

1466
02:20:57,880 --> 02:21:01,400
And people were like that's not acceptable and I was like that's not acceptable

1467
02:21:02,920 --> 02:21:08,360
Hey, cool blog post hexos local. Let's go go check it out. In addition

1468
02:21:09,320 --> 02:21:15,560
they posted another blog post with their updated roadmap and they launched the holiday sale that

1469
02:21:16,040 --> 02:21:20,200
I've chatted with them about so you can get a two-pack for 298 for new customers

1470
02:21:20,600 --> 02:21:24,440
Or existing customers can buy additional licenses at 99

1471
02:21:25,160 --> 02:21:28,600
Here are the relevant links. Um, no, I'm not going to bother clicking them

1472
02:21:29,560 --> 02:21:35,160
In the roadmap blog you can also see some screenshots for the upcoming apps ui refresh that is planned for december

1473
02:21:35,160 --> 02:21:42,920
So hexos is that nas os that's built on top of true nas that I invested in a while back. It's meant to be like

1474
02:21:44,200 --> 02:21:47,960
a simple nas software experience that has the power

1475
02:21:48,520 --> 02:21:51,960
Of zfs and true nas underpinning it

1476
02:21:52,200 --> 02:21:56,920
But that you are not locked into proprietary hardware in order to get access to

1477
02:21:58,120 --> 02:22:09,080
cool stuff Uh, what else we got? Oh cool stilantis is spamming car owners displays with pop-up ads for new stilantis discounts

1478
02:22:09,960 --> 02:22:11,960
wow

1479
02:22:13,400 --> 02:22:17,480
Stilantis car manufacturer. Oh, they're like a group that owns a bunch of stuff

1480
02:22:17,640 --> 02:22:21,080
I've heard of these guys urging them to buy another wow. This is amazing

1481
02:22:21,320 --> 02:22:29,720
So pop-up ads right on the car's infotainment screen urging customers to buy another stilantis vehicle while they are still driving the one they have

1482
02:22:30,120 --> 02:22:33,640
The company calls these interruptions marketing notifications

1483
02:22:34,360 --> 02:22:41,160
Drivers say the ads take over the entire screen on startup making them have to click out of them on an already crowded display

1484
02:22:41,800 --> 02:22:47,240
The Linus comment here is this I just want to do a quick follow-up on what I said last week

1485
02:22:47,560 --> 02:22:50,680
about supporting tesla moving to airplay because

1486
02:22:51,400 --> 02:22:53,400
This is the kind of crap

1487
02:22:54,680 --> 02:23:00,120
That having a more competition in good car infotainment

1488
02:23:00,680 --> 02:23:05,080
Could hopefully help us avoid. We need to pay close attention

1489
02:23:05,720 --> 02:23:11,160
To the brands that are locking down their infotainment system not allowing us to bring our own devices

1490
02:23:11,400 --> 02:23:17,400
We need to pay close attention to which brands are spamming us with marketing when we're trying to drive our cars

1491
02:23:17,640 --> 02:23:20,840
And we need to be flatly rejecting these practices

1492
02:23:21,240 --> 02:23:27,560
otherwise Sure, we might finally get our utopian self-driving future

1493
02:23:28,200 --> 02:23:33,000
But at what cost are we going to have ads blaring inside the car?

1494
02:23:34,120 --> 02:23:39,800
No, you don't think so. I will not buy one. Well, yeah, but I didn't say that you'll buy one

1495
02:23:39,800 --> 02:23:41,800
I said make my own. I said will that be a thing?

1496
02:23:42,840 --> 02:23:44,840
I won't do it. I actually

1497
02:23:47,400 --> 02:23:51,240
I I I believe you I would stand on that. Yeah, okay

1498
02:23:52,280 --> 02:23:55,800
This will not happen all right

1499
02:23:55,800 --> 02:24:00,040
Make your own car. Yeah, there's like kit cars and stuff um

1500
02:24:00,040 --> 02:24:03,960
ricks dicks says couldn't they just show ads as an overlay of carplay?

1501
02:24:04,440 --> 02:24:10,120
Uh, they could pop something over top of it. Yes But the point I was trying to make last week is more

1502
02:24:11,000 --> 02:24:15,000
competition in good infotainment systems and more openness to bring your own device

1503
02:24:15,320 --> 02:24:20,840
Go hand in hand in my mind to being a better driving experience compared to more

1504
02:24:21,240 --> 02:24:27,320
Locked down ecosystem crap that gives them complete control over what you can and can't see on your screen in your car

1505
02:24:29,000 --> 02:24:33,640
All right So yeah, basically f**k you stilantis that sucks

1506
02:24:34,440 --> 02:24:41,560
Warner music and sueno sign a first of its kind ai licensing agreement after their previous lawsuit

1507
02:24:43,000 --> 02:24:48,440
Oh boy, Warner music has signed a landmark licensing deal with ai song generator sueno

1508
02:24:48,440 --> 02:24:51,960
Just a year after suing the platform for mass copyright infringement

1509
02:24:52,520 --> 02:24:57,800
This agreement positions warner as the first major label to formally partner with the ai music service

1510
02:24:58,120 --> 02:25:01,240
Allowing users to generate songs using the voices

1511
02:25:01,480 --> 02:25:07,320
Names and likenesses of warner artists who opt in

1512
02:25:08,360 --> 02:25:12,360
Oh, okay. Okay. Still okay. The opt-in helps a lot

1513
02:25:12,920 --> 02:25:16,840
Yeah, but it's it's boiling the fog man. I agree. It's boiling the frog

1514
02:25:16,840 --> 02:25:25,240
But the opt-in does it's opt-in until it isn't I but the opt-in does help a lot sueno will also introduce new licensed ai models in 2025

1515
02:25:25,640 --> 02:25:29,640
Phase out unregulated versions and limit downloads to paid subscribers

1516
02:25:30,040 --> 02:25:34,760
As part of the deal warner sold sueno the concert discovery platform song kick

1517
02:25:34,840 --> 02:25:40,120
Which the ai company plans to integrate into its broader music generation ecosystem

1518
02:25:41,640 --> 02:25:50,440
From their official statement Artists and songwriters will have full control over whether and how their names images likenesses voices and compositions are used in new ai generated music

1519
02:25:50,680 --> 02:25:58,200
Together wmg and sueno are committed to forging a blueprint for a next generation licensed ai music platform

1520
02:25:59,880 --> 02:26:05,800
For now for now All right, no notes on this one RAM costs have shot into the stratosphere

1521
02:26:06,520 --> 02:26:09,960
um and

1522
02:26:09,960 --> 02:26:15,400
seriously Tim sweeney weighed in on this

1523
02:26:16,280 --> 02:26:22,680
all right, sure Yep, it's bad. All right. It's bad

1524
02:26:24,440 --> 02:26:27,880
Dan It's time for a grand show after dark

1525
02:26:29,800 --> 02:26:34,200
Oh my god, time to do some merch messages. Oh my gosh. Wait, what happened? Was there another spike?

1526
02:26:35,240 --> 02:26:39,720
Yeah Oh We're nearly at a thousand

1527
02:26:40,440 --> 02:26:44,040
Wow I just I felt like it was like

1528
02:26:44,360 --> 02:26:50,920
Steady and then kind of slowed and then was steady. But did it like blip again? Yeah, there's been two humps today. Oh

1529
02:26:52,040 --> 02:26:54,520
Alice the camel has two humps

1530
02:26:55,480 --> 02:26:58,520
I I mean, oh, whoa. Yeah, there really was so

1531
02:26:59,080 --> 02:27:04,200
Insulated water bottles were winning by a lot for a long time. Oh, yeah, yeah, and then the arches

1532
02:27:05,240 --> 02:27:09,160
I don't know if you mentioned them additionally or something but the arches just took off

1533
02:27:09,240 --> 02:27:12,760
No mention of the arches the arches weren't even in top three and then now they're

1534
02:27:13,240 --> 02:27:17,000
Number two most popular item. Oh, yeah, look at that. You mean one

1535
02:27:18,120 --> 02:27:20,600
Uh, yeah, my bad nice

1536
02:27:21,720 --> 02:27:23,800
Yeah, so there's the there's the top items today

1537
02:27:25,000 --> 02:27:27,800
Water bottles is winning for a long time. The water bottle deal is crazy

1538
02:27:28,280 --> 02:27:31,640
It's a good deal It is nuts that it is a water bottle if I remember quickly

1539
02:27:31,800 --> 02:27:38,680
Let me go look at the story I think it's cheaper to buy two water bottles that you choose than it is to buy one mystery water bottle right now

1540
02:27:38,840 --> 02:27:42,040
Wow Oh, no, that's a 40 ounce

1541
02:27:43,640 --> 02:27:47,880
Hmm That's a little odd

1542
02:27:49,000 --> 02:27:53,960
The I think this is a global site problem. Just a little fun fact thing

1543
02:27:54,520 --> 02:27:59,560
Uh-oh, what now 40 ounce water bottle then you go into the insulated water bottle section and they're all leaders

1544
02:28:00,520 --> 02:28:06,920
Oh, yeah, that's cute We'll figure it out. Yeah, we're getting used to having two different websites

1545
02:28:07,720 --> 02:28:16,760
Yep, it's a pretty minor Thing yeah, I'd say as far as um errors go on e-commerce sites on black friday. That's uh, it's not bad. Yeah

1546
02:28:17,400 --> 02:28:20,840
That's right up there with least problematic. But yeah, you can get two

1547
02:28:21,480 --> 02:28:24,120
water bottles including up to the 40 ounce ones

1548
02:28:24,600 --> 02:28:30,840
Uh for 30 bucks, which is nuts. Go for it considering the mystery 40 ounce water bottle is 40 bucks

1549
02:28:32,200 --> 02:28:37,080
All right, Dan hit me or do you want us to just read them this week?

1550
02:28:37,640 --> 02:28:43,400
Um, I might dump over to you if I got another spike. Okay about ye

1551
02:28:43,880 --> 02:28:46,440
Hello from belfast glad to catch on

1552
02:28:47,080 --> 02:28:50,920
Wanshoe live been waiting for some free shipping to replace my broken bag

1553
02:28:51,400 --> 02:28:53,400
Linus, how's the bike coming along?

1554
02:28:54,920 --> 02:28:59,560
Okay, she said we love you Dan. She's a six to eight foot job. Okay

1555
02:29:00,520 --> 02:29:08,760
But it's done It is sitting in a pile. No, no, no, no stop it. It's no it's done. Oh, no, no, that's not what I'm smiling about

1556
02:29:08,760 --> 02:29:10,760
You said foot job

1557
02:29:13,400 --> 02:29:15,560
I've got something planned for the sock launch

1558
02:29:17,400 --> 02:29:20,760
What it's gonna be fun. What?

1559
02:29:28,520 --> 02:29:30,520
What does it mean

1560
02:29:32,680 --> 02:29:41,560
Nothing good, I can I can't imagine where that's going full plane exclusive actually. Oh my god

1561
02:29:43,000 --> 02:29:46,120
Hold on. I'm sending already approved. I'm sending down the update

1562
02:29:47,560 --> 02:29:52,760
All right, Dan There it is. You can show the people this is the current state

1563
02:29:54,520 --> 02:29:58,040
And as soon as the kind of end of season rush

1564
02:29:59,000 --> 02:30:04,920
Subsides the shop is gonna work on it and I will ride in the spring. Ah, nice

1565
02:30:07,720 --> 02:30:13,720
Okay, that's a tank there's a couple of problems with it, but yeah, everything else is like packed and ready to go

1566
02:30:15,240 --> 02:30:20,440
And that is how it sits right now. Sweet. Can't wait. Totally done. Totally done

1567
02:30:20,440 --> 02:30:22,440
Hey

1568
02:30:23,720 --> 02:30:30,600
LLD finally managed to watch live from the uk love the engineering that goes into so much of the LTT Store stuff

1569
02:30:30,920 --> 02:30:33,880
So what's the most interesting thing you've learned while designing something?

1570
02:30:35,160 --> 02:30:38,920
Most interesting thing you've learned

1571
02:30:39,160 --> 02:30:42,280
I feel like every meeting that I have with

1572
02:30:43,160 --> 02:30:51,160
the creator warehouse team Is uh is full of interesting things and not just the engineering

1573
02:30:51,800 --> 02:30:55,800
team because there is a surprising amount of

1574
02:30:56,520 --> 02:31:00,520
Engineering that goes into like the fashion stuff as well

1575
02:31:01,400 --> 02:31:04,360
If you want it to be any good like fabric science is

1576
02:31:05,400 --> 02:31:10,120
Pretty cool The most

1577
02:31:10,120 --> 02:31:15,240
Interesting thing. Okay, I happen to have a lot of products in front of me

1578
02:31:16,120 --> 02:31:22,440
that I could maybe Okay, I don't know if it's the most interesting thing, but it's something that is pretty interesting

1579
02:31:23,160 --> 02:31:29,240
No, no, no, definitely not that. Um, but I remember uh, jacob who did a lot of the

1580
02:31:30,040 --> 02:31:34,600
modeling Uh for our mcm cable management arches

1581
02:31:35,080 --> 02:31:45,160
I remember him explaining to me That the the magnetic hold of these is not as simple as just put a big magnet on it and it holds good

1582
02:31:46,040 --> 02:31:49,720
Uh, because I I never like studied magnetic fields

1583
02:31:50,200 --> 02:31:54,760
So I didn't know much about it other than you got your north pole and your south pole and your

1584
02:31:55,560 --> 02:32:03,960
You know everything in between Where people live and sorry, sorry, uh, so you I didn't really know much about it other than they like attract

1585
02:32:04,040 --> 02:32:12,440
And then the other side repels But he was he was showing me some of the some of the modeling and simulations that he was doing to

1586
02:32:12,920 --> 02:32:19,320
Bring this product to life and explaining how no you can actually fine tune the way that a magnet

1587
02:32:20,520 --> 02:32:23,480
Um attracts so you could have like

1588
02:32:24,200 --> 02:32:28,600
Like a more even increase of its if it's attraction

1589
02:32:28,920 --> 02:32:35,160
Over time or you can have like an extremely strong attraction that fades off much faster and

1590
02:32:36,200 --> 02:32:40,920
There's a bunch of like fine tuning of this design that i'm not going to go into

1591
02:32:41,560 --> 02:32:46,680
That makes it so that they like really grab on when they're close when they're close

1592
02:32:47,320 --> 02:32:52,760
Um And it was and it was pretty cool. So everything is sized just right

1593
02:32:53,400 --> 02:32:56,920
Such that have you noticed that there isn't really like a knockoff mcm?

1594
02:32:57,880 --> 02:33:00,440
Still even though the concept of it is so

1595
02:33:01,160 --> 02:33:05,160
simple It's because to under you can't really undercut it

1596
02:33:05,640 --> 02:33:08,040
Because neodymium just costs what it costs

1597
02:33:08,680 --> 02:33:13,080
And to make something that's as good as this you actually have to put in way more work than it's worth

1598
02:33:14,280 --> 02:33:17,880
Um, even though it's just a simple plastic arch with

1599
02:33:18,440 --> 02:33:22,760
Some magnets in it and yeah, you can you could totally 3d print one

1600
02:33:23,240 --> 02:33:28,360
But it's really hard to get the magnet retention properly so that they don't like fall off sometimes

1601
02:33:28,920 --> 02:33:34,040
because Yeah, if I remember correctly it would be really annoying to make or something

1602
02:33:34,040 --> 02:33:37,240
But I still love the idea of a like a bungee cord style one

1603
02:33:38,120 --> 02:33:42,040
Where it's two nodes with a bungee cord between them. Um, it's like stretchy

1604
02:33:42,120 --> 02:33:48,040
We're gonna have a flexible one, but it won't be bungee cords. Yeah. Yeah, I don't think it really matters too much what it is

1605
02:33:48,920 --> 02:33:50,920
Just flexible would be cool

1606
02:33:53,000 --> 02:33:57,320
You Now you're doing great dad

1607
02:33:58,440 --> 02:34:03,800
Are we gonna crack a thousand merge messages today? Yeah, it'll be a record all over the board question for lucan Linus

1608
02:34:03,800 --> 02:34:10,120
Have you ever been at a black friday launch and what's the craziest thing you witnessed? No, no black friday wasn't as

1609
02:34:10,760 --> 02:34:15,880
Big of a thing here until fairly recently when I was growing up. Yeah, it was all about boxing day here

1610
02:34:15,880 --> 02:34:20,600
Oh, yeah, but I was like lined up at future shop one boxing day that was

1611
02:34:20,840 --> 02:34:26,680
Unforgettable that was the year I got my zero dollar after mail-in rebate. Um cd writer

1612
02:34:27,400 --> 02:34:30,520
CD or dvd. I can't remember but it was an optical drive from ben q

1613
02:34:31,000 --> 02:34:36,680
Um, and then a lot of the canadian like once we started doing black friday thing

1614
02:34:37,640 --> 02:34:42,920
Online shopping was already kind of enabled. Yeah, so I've engaged in black friday sales

1615
02:34:42,920 --> 02:34:46,120
But I've never rushed to a store because in my mind

1616
02:34:46,840 --> 02:34:50,040
I could look around faster and find the good things faster just

1617
02:34:50,600 --> 02:35:00,040
Online I also I did the lineup at ncix thing once I got a samsung monitor for like cheaper than a than an off-brand monitor

1618
02:35:00,120 --> 02:35:06,600
And I got the last one Um, that was available at that location and I was like lined up around the block

1619
02:35:06,680 --> 02:35:10,920
I like and like audible groans behind me. I was super stoked on that

1620
02:35:12,760 --> 02:35:17,000
I I actually Really miss like game line-ups

1621
02:35:17,480 --> 02:35:20,840
Mmm, really miss those and the halo 2

1622
02:35:21,480 --> 02:35:24,840
lineup was like very fun

1623
02:35:24,840 --> 02:35:32,120
some dudes some like i'm assuming like Early mid 20s dudes showed up with like a pickup truck

1624
02:35:32,760 --> 02:35:36,920
Uh, a like gas generator an xbox and a crt in the back

1625
02:35:37,400 --> 02:35:41,880
And they just like rotate people in that were waiting in the lineup playing halo and people to save their spots in line

1626
02:35:41,960 --> 02:35:46,360
It was so sick. It was so cool. We should do a midnight launch for a product

1627
02:35:47,400 --> 02:35:53,000
That'd be cool. Like when we finally do our battery bank, we should do like a midnight launch. That'd be sweet and like

1628
02:35:53,960 --> 02:35:56,760
Yeah, just make it an event. I think it would be super cool. Yeah

1629
02:35:58,520 --> 02:36:00,520
Nice

1630
02:36:02,680 --> 02:36:08,840
Has the latest mario party jamboree fixed the no skipping issue line us often combines about on principle

1631
02:36:08,920 --> 02:36:12,440
I won't buy another mario party until they fix the one that I already bought

1632
02:36:12,920 --> 02:36:17,160
Whose only problem is that everything is unskippable, which makes it unplayable and

1633
02:36:17,720 --> 02:36:21,640
nintendo seems to have Zero intention of ever fixing it even though

1634
02:36:22,200 --> 02:36:26,600
It's one of those things that they could fix in an afternoon, but just decided not to you know mine

1635
02:36:26,920 --> 02:36:32,520
I I didn't even decide that on principle, but I think i'm just done with mario party now after that game

1636
02:36:33,160 --> 02:36:37,560
Yeah, like they just it's not it's not even just principle. I'm just like wow that was a bad experience

1637
02:36:37,640 --> 02:36:39,800
They soured me on it. The minigames are great

1638
02:36:40,760 --> 02:36:46,200
Lots of fun just playing minigames a minigames minigames, but I want to play the board game

1639
02:36:46,760 --> 02:36:50,120
Even though it's like kind of an imbalanced crappy board game. I want to play it

1640
02:36:50,600 --> 02:36:57,000
And I don't want to sit through unskippable Bulls**t the entire time just fix it

1641
02:36:58,520 --> 02:37:00,520
I don't even think it'd be that hard

1642
02:37:03,400 --> 02:37:08,280
Hi line is tana luke question for luke. How did you first discover your love for birds?

1643
02:37:08,520 --> 02:37:12,040
I greatly enjoy you talking about them super wholesome

1644
02:37:12,920 --> 02:37:15,640
Accidentally with some ARM twisting. Yeah

1645
02:37:17,000 --> 02:37:24,360
Emma Emma wanted to get one And I was resisting getting a dog at the time. I love dogs, but

1646
02:37:26,200 --> 02:37:29,640
I don't know I know a bunch of people do it and I don't look down on them

1647
02:37:29,640 --> 02:37:33,320
But apartment living with the dog seems difficult to me especially with the

1648
02:37:34,040 --> 02:37:42,840
Types of breeds of dog that I would generally like to get Um, so I want a big dog. I do want a big dog and I and I know people make it work, but like

1649
02:37:43,880 --> 02:37:49,880
Uh, I don't know. Um, so I was resisting that and she wanted a pet of of some kind

1650
02:37:50,360 --> 02:37:53,560
And then she she pushed getting a bird and I was like, okay

1651
02:37:53,720 --> 02:38:01,080
But like I think I'm not gonna care about it So you're gonna have to like take care of it and stuff tough guy stuff and then we got the bird nice such a bird dad

1652
02:38:02,200 --> 02:38:05,960
So funny like it's so funny watching the transformation dude

1653
02:38:07,640 --> 02:38:13,160
Yeah Yeah, so it was it was somewhat accidental for me, but they're cool

1654
02:38:16,040 --> 02:38:21,240
Hi wan I seem to be unlucky with my genetics and I am potentially sensitive to

1655
02:38:21,960 --> 02:38:25,000
cutioled monitors my eye strain and weirdness

1656
02:38:25,800 --> 02:38:32,040
W OLED might not be an issue. So rip wallet. Have you guys run into this or am I SOL?

1657
02:38:32,120 --> 02:38:35,960
I'm afraid I haven't run into that. That's um Um

1658
02:38:35,960 --> 02:38:40,120
Huh, I never heard of that even a long time to adjust to my OLED

1659
02:38:40,360 --> 02:38:47,160
I did find some games really didn't play very nicely with the how dark it could get interesting. Um,

1660
02:38:47,800 --> 02:38:53,800
But I've gotten Well, I don't know now. I haven't used it for three months. So who knows maybe I've lost it again

1661
02:38:53,880 --> 02:38:57,800
But I did get pretty used to it and was quite happy with it after a while

1662
02:39:05,400 --> 02:39:07,400
Oh

1663
02:39:09,400 --> 02:39:17,640
Sorry, I thought you were pausing for something else. Hi, I'm the current chief of networking at what once was the world's largest

1664
02:39:17,720 --> 02:39:24,360
Land under one roof the gathering in norway. That's cool. What's the biggest challenge about running whale land any surprises?

1665
02:39:24,600 --> 02:39:29,800
I think wrangling is always the biggest challenge with any large group of people just like

1666
02:39:30,520 --> 02:39:36,120
Getting people to kind of do the same thing at the same time

1667
02:39:36,680 --> 02:39:41,720
Um, you know for me, it was not necessarily one big thing like for me personally

1668
02:39:41,720 --> 02:39:45,560
It wasn't necessarily one big thing as much as it was just a bunch of little things because

1669
02:39:46,280 --> 02:39:49,160
Going into it. We had a concept of a layout

1670
02:39:50,040 --> 02:39:54,280
But we ended up making a bunch of changes on the fly and I'm also kind of

1671
02:39:54,840 --> 02:40:02,600
Actively reimagining what whale land is as we roll out our first seems to be working so far few events and so

1672
02:40:03,160 --> 02:40:10,680
That's that's a big challenge. Um We had some networking issues, which you know, you're gonna expect anytime you're running, you know

1673
02:40:10,760 --> 02:40:15,160
The first event in a while. Hopefully we'll have those all resolved for the next one

1674
02:40:15,240 --> 02:40:20,840
We had like a we had a ISP outage and then we had a couple of other the ISP outage was surprising

1675
02:40:20,840 --> 02:40:23,640
Yeah, the timing, right? It's pretty rare too. Yeah

1676
02:40:24,760 --> 02:40:30,120
Um, but yeah, overall I'm it went really well. We need to figure out our power distribution a little bit better

1677
02:40:30,120 --> 02:40:35,080
It's all the usual stuff, but it was all little issues and overall the the

1678
02:40:36,200 --> 02:40:39,880
Attendee response scores were really high people had a really good time. So

1679
02:40:40,520 --> 02:40:46,200
You don't want to have to lean it on that though. You want both sides to be good the technical side and the and the entertainment side

1680
02:40:46,280 --> 02:40:53,240
So, yeah, yeah. Hey DLL. I work for one of your sponsors building military aerospace equipment

1681
02:40:54,040 --> 02:40:58,040
What is the coolest or strangest thing one of your sponsors build you didn't realize?

1682
02:40:58,600 --> 02:41:01,880
Well, it's not so much a sponsor and it's not so much them building it

1683
02:41:01,880 --> 02:41:06,920
But we talked about Noctua early earlier and their fans just being in all kinds of random things

1684
02:41:07,160 --> 02:41:14,040
Yeah, um, so one of the things that Roland mentioned is apparently they have an outstanding market share in call pods

1685
02:41:16,200 --> 02:41:21,320
The cooling fans totally make sense which totally makes sense because you would want it to be quiet!

1686
02:41:21,800 --> 02:41:27,320
And it needs ventilation And where would you go for quiet ventilation? But Noctua

1687
02:41:27,960 --> 02:41:31,400
um, I also found a Noctua fan in the

1688
02:41:32,680 --> 02:41:36,440
Uh, the little cooling module for my my heated and cooled

1689
02:41:37,240 --> 02:41:43,080
Bed topper. Yep. So you just find Noctua fans in all the sort of weirdest randomest

1690
02:41:43,720 --> 02:41:48,520
places totally Good noon

1691
02:41:48,520 --> 02:41:55,960
What do you think constitutes a soup? For example, our french fries in soda soup is cereal and milk soup

1692
02:41:58,040 --> 02:42:00,040
French fries and soda would that be a cereal?

1693
02:42:01,400 --> 02:42:05,160
I mean, it's a carb in a no no, I think

1694
02:42:07,000 --> 02:42:15,240
I We've talked about this before and I think what we came to is that there is no firm definition that everyone is

1695
02:42:15,480 --> 02:42:22,680
Ever going to agree on I think people should generally be able to intuitively know and I think we generally do

1696
02:42:23,000 --> 02:42:26,200
I think trying to define it is it's a bad faith question

1697
02:42:26,200 --> 02:42:31,800
Yes, and our french fries and soda a soup. It's like no, it's garbage. Yeah. Yeah

1698
02:42:32,760 --> 02:42:41,640
I think I think that's like actually the answer Uh, I've decided that uh pool is a soup because it's got meat vegetables and salt in it

1699
02:42:41,640 --> 02:42:48,200
Like sorry pool. Yeah, like when you go swimming like okay because there's a noodle

1700
02:42:48,840 --> 02:42:55,560
Yeah, it's got noodles. It's got meat. It's got algae. So it's got vegetables and like salt, right? Yeah salt

1701
02:42:55,720 --> 02:43:01,560
Yeah soup okay swimming pool soup vegetables a culinary term anything could be a vegetable. I think for sure

1702
02:43:02,760 --> 02:43:06,200
Also conrad no hot dog is not a sandwich. It's a taco

1703
02:43:06,920 --> 02:43:11,640
I Lld you're not technically a vegetable

1704
02:43:13,240 --> 02:43:16,440
Oh, no, I'm wrong. Okay, whatever. I mean, it's an ai summary. So you might still be right

1705
02:43:17,160 --> 02:43:23,240
I lld. What's a game that you're excited for that will surely come out in 2026

1706
02:43:24,440 --> 02:43:30,200
Gta. Yeah I mean, I'm not actually that excited for it. I actually still haven't played gta 5. I'm pretty excited

1707
02:43:30,200 --> 02:43:38,360
I really liked the campaign for gta 5. Yeah, I had a great time I probably would too, but I haven't managed to play red dead 2. I haven't managed to play cyberpunk

1708
02:43:38,520 --> 02:43:48,200
I haven't managed to play gta 5 Like the the last thing I need is another thing is another like 80 hour plus game on my list of games to play right now

1709
02:43:48,360 --> 02:43:54,040
I I haven't played red dead 2 either. I really enjoyed red dead 1. I'm planning on playing red dead 2

1710
02:43:54,200 --> 02:43:59,560
I was planning on playing it pretty soon. I had it installed before I've installed it multiple times. Yeah, I have to

1711
02:44:00,520 --> 02:44:05,240
Um, I there's there's a bunch of crazy mods for it because of course

1712
02:44:06,120 --> 02:44:10,120
Uh, and there's a there's a mod list from a youtuber called nakey jakey

1713
02:44:10,520 --> 02:44:18,360
And well, it's not the list isn't from him But he he has a video talking about it. Um, and he had a list of mods that he used and I'm like very

1714
02:44:19,640 --> 02:44:27,240
Tempted to not even play it normally the first time and just try to run in directly with this mod list and see how it goes

1715
02:44:30,520 --> 02:44:36,120
Uh Hey lld even though I am skeptical of the current leaks

1716
02:44:36,280 --> 02:44:41,000
I believe most of the discussion is and then in brackets and believe most of the discussion is pure. Hopium

1717
02:44:41,320 --> 02:44:48,760
What would your expectations for half-life 3b? How could valve revolutionize FPS? I'm full on hopium. Um

1718
02:44:50,360 --> 02:44:55,000
Man, I feel like there's no way for me to answer this question without people being mad at me

1719
02:44:55,000 --> 02:45:01,720
It's gonna be up sex. I'm pretty sure I know what you're gonna do There's been some fun leaks into the cs2 engine about like

1720
02:45:02,200 --> 02:45:07,640
Materials interacting with each other and like waters and oils and things like that and particle simulations. Okay

1721
02:45:08,600 --> 02:45:12,120
but like I played half-life 2

1722
02:45:12,440 --> 02:45:14,840
All the way through I played episode 1

1723
02:45:15,480 --> 02:45:17,480
I played episode 2

1724
02:45:18,760 --> 02:45:23,720
I thought far cry was better I

1725
02:45:24,120 --> 02:45:30,280
I I didn't grow up with half life far cries. Sorry not the new far cry. No, no far cry

1726
02:45:30,600 --> 02:45:35,640
Uh far cry 2 was a giant piece of garbage and then I just resolved to never play a far cry game again

1727
02:45:36,280 --> 02:45:44,520
Uh, which is easy because I had no time to game for like 10 years. Yeah around that time. Yeah, um, but I I enjoyed far cry one more

1728
02:45:44,920 --> 02:45:48,360
I had zero um

1729
02:45:48,360 --> 02:45:55,720
I I had zero like nostalgia for half-life going into it because I didn't I couldn't afford a 3d gaming machine

1730
02:45:56,360 --> 02:46:04,440
um Until the point in my life when like far cry doom and half-life 2 all came out like what a year that was holy crap, right?

1731
02:46:05,160 --> 02:46:07,160
um

1732
02:46:08,200 --> 02:46:12,040
So, yeah, I I I played half-life 2 because everyone played half-life 2

1733
02:46:12,040 --> 02:46:15,320
I got a free copy with my all-in-wonder radion

1734
02:46:16,120 --> 02:46:21,880
9600 pro That I I held on to for all that time that it was delayed and delayed and delayed

1735
02:46:22,360 --> 02:46:27,240
And I guess maybe part of it was just like getting my expectations up super high the gravity gun was fun

1736
02:46:27,880 --> 02:46:34,600
But you know, it was it was at in in at least some senses at least aesthetically another

1737
02:46:35,400 --> 02:46:38,680
brown 2000s shooter

1738
02:46:39,160 --> 02:46:43,000
Like it's kind of ugly whereas like far cry was was beautiful

1739
02:46:43,080 --> 02:46:50,280
It took I I felt more advantage of the incredible visuals that were suddenly possible on on the hardware at the time

1740
02:46:51,240 --> 02:46:57,800
um And I I find the I find the very puzzle oriented gameplay

1741
02:46:58,280 --> 02:47:02,600
Fun when I'm playing a puzzle game portal is on my top three games of all time

1742
02:47:02,920 --> 02:47:08,120
So good portal is as an absolute masterpiece and I think is a much better

1743
02:47:09,080 --> 02:47:16,120
Is a much better use of valve's kind of narrative style portal and portal two are both god mode games

1744
02:47:16,680 --> 02:47:24,760
uh And yeah, I did I I made it like an hour and a half into alex or two hours or something like that

1745
02:47:24,840 --> 02:47:29,000
And I was just like yep Well, this is half-life all right

1746
02:47:29,880 --> 02:47:33,340
um And the combine is still bad

1747
02:47:34,600 --> 02:47:36,600
And humans are still oppressed

1748
02:47:38,840 --> 02:47:42,280
And um, this is all kind of a downer

1749
02:47:44,920 --> 02:47:46,920
I don't know man, uh, so what are they gonna do?

1750
02:47:47,960 --> 02:47:51,320
I don't know something that'll make a lot of people really happy

1751
02:47:52,360 --> 02:47:56,440
and um I'll I'll at least try and play it

1752
02:47:57,160 --> 02:48:02,920
Yeah But like if it's if the campaigns as good as titanfall 2 I'll be surprised

1753
02:48:03,880 --> 02:48:09,960
Like dude, especially that level with the time shifting thing. Oh my god. Oh my god. It's so oh

1754
02:48:11,640 --> 02:48:18,680
Peak I don't know I mean, I think a big part of the reason that I'm skeptical is a big part of the reason that valve is so hesitant to release an

1755
02:48:18,680 --> 02:48:23,320
FPS Yeah, because there's been so much there's not a lot more gameplay innovation

1756
02:48:23,400 --> 02:48:29,160
Yeah, and so for them to come up with something like groundbreaking real-time strategy is tough

1757
02:48:29,800 --> 02:48:32,360
Or an half-life too, but it's ano

1758
02:48:33,480 --> 02:48:37,800
Just destroy Do you have free example?

1759
02:48:38,040 --> 02:48:43,560
Anyone's to respond to do you want to be able to shoot the aliens? You have to first produce firearms and ammo

1760
02:48:43,720 --> 02:48:48,440
I need new guns or I won't upgrade to my house. Please keep reading them. I'm at 21 now

1761
02:48:49,160 --> 02:48:54,520
Okay. Yeah, sure. Uh, yeah, no, I how are you falling so far behind? Is there another surge? Yes, there is. Yeah

1762
02:48:54,760 --> 02:48:59,000
Why is there another surge? Did they send out an eblast or something? Oh, we were over a thousand now

1763
02:48:59,320 --> 02:49:05,400
Uh, yeah, um, do you want to do you want to know what the one thousandth merge message today is? Oh, sure. I'm not watching right now

1764
02:49:15,640 --> 02:49:20,920
Oh, that's amazing I I do wonder how much of this is just like people are on the world like waking up

1765
02:49:21,800 --> 02:49:25,960
Like is it is it time zone shifting? I mean that yeah, that kind of checked out

1766
02:49:26,680 --> 02:49:28,680
It's freaking sick

1767
02:49:32,600 --> 02:49:37,320
Hey, thanks guys frame that thank you for your you know support for the store by the way guys

1768
02:49:37,320 --> 02:49:41,880
I mean obviously we work hard to make them real valid products that people should actually

1769
02:49:42,040 --> 02:49:47,480
You know want to own and enjoy for a very long time, but we also appreciate the support element of it

1770
02:49:47,640 --> 02:49:49,640
Thanks, guys. One second. I'm just gonna

1771
02:49:50,760 --> 02:49:53,320
I'm gonna screencap it water balls resurged

1772
02:49:54,040 --> 02:49:58,200
Oh Never mind

1773
02:49:58,840 --> 02:50:02,200
Arches in the lead. This is this is crazy

1774
02:50:03,640 --> 02:50:11,400
Hold on a second. Where where'd the thing go? Uh, most popular item. Yeah, water bottles went out ahead and then arches immediately

1775
02:50:12,200 --> 02:50:17,080
Passed them by four. That was wild. Well, I guess when someone buys a kit does it register each one?

1776
02:50:17,880 --> 02:50:20,760
It should most likely they're all separate products technically

1777
02:50:21,240 --> 02:50:25,320
Uh, yeah, I would oh, I see. Yeah, I see I see I thought you meant like uh

1778
02:50:25,960 --> 02:50:29,560
Yeah, because don't you have a free steam deck with the home kit like this is two

1779
02:50:30,200 --> 02:50:36,280
water bottles Right, so I think when someone buys the bundle. Oh, I thought you meant the arches. No both

1780
02:50:36,360 --> 02:50:44,040
So when someone buys like the home the water bottles would be too. Yeah, so then the arches would be like however many they buy so

1781
02:50:45,080 --> 02:50:50,120
Anyway, I don't know. I literally am not even a hundred percent sure how this dashboard records things

1782
02:50:50,760 --> 02:50:57,160
Room bundle epic steam deck. All right. Uh, oh, we're we're supposed to be reading merch. Oh my god. Yes, you are

1783
02:50:57,240 --> 02:51:03,000
He's up to 30. What is happening Dan? I've been doing one every eight seconds for the last two and a half hours

1784
02:51:03,480 --> 02:51:07,240
Right So, so I guess what you're saying is that you need to be

1785
02:51:07,800 --> 02:51:13,000
Doing them faster and for longer in order to keep up. Is that sort of what i'm interpreting that

1786
02:51:13,880 --> 02:51:20,280
Can we whip you harder? Would that help to motivate you? I hear your fingers moving faster. I self-flage late enough. Thank you

1787
02:51:21,000 --> 02:51:25,480
Self-flage elation. Do I pay you or do you pay me? I don't know in this situation

1788
02:51:26,520 --> 02:51:32,680
Okay Conrad confirmed arches is the counter component. So a bundle is like 10 arches. Nice. That's how they get you

1789
02:51:32,760 --> 02:51:36,760
So water bottle supremacy is still going. That's how they get you. Yeah

1790
02:51:37,240 --> 02:51:42,040
Uh, oh, yeah, no you're six behind brother. I'm team arches. That means scribe driver

1791
02:51:42,920 --> 02:51:52,360
Is winning you can call me the mcdonald's king Because the arches are in gold. They're in first place. They get the gold mcdonald's if you count each

1792
02:51:52,840 --> 02:51:57,560
10 arches is actually one and if you count each two water bottles is actually one. Yeah, I mean if you're a little

1793
02:51:58,040 --> 02:52:04,360
You just can't handle being wrong. No, I think we're both wrong. Yeah, driver's winning. I think Linus isn't capable of being wrong

1794
02:52:08,360 --> 02:52:14,920
The speed of pressing that was so high Oh, Sebastian's in the chat instead of being at work. There's a few of those

1795
02:52:15,560 --> 02:52:20,760
Sings let's go scribe driver's king. It's kind of it's kind of his baby. It is though. Like it's yeah

1796
02:52:21,320 --> 02:52:28,840
Anyways, 100% next one I'm starting a new it job with a law firm on monday. That's an incoming. Oh, no

1797
02:52:30,040 --> 02:52:32,920
Oh, no, the incoming is so long that it's hard to

1798
02:52:34,120 --> 02:52:42,680
Okay, I'm going back up. Oh, gosh Uh, I'm starting my new it job at a law firm on monday and needed a new backpack to replace my ratty one

1799
02:52:43,000 --> 02:52:50,200
Any tips for dealing with user slash co-workers who have incredibly high expectations and requirements? I'm married to one

1800
02:52:50,360 --> 02:52:53,960
so I would say Do your best

1801
02:52:53,960 --> 02:52:56,520
Explain why you didn't live up to their expectations

1802
02:52:57,160 --> 02:53:00,840
Follow through on on fixing things

1803
02:53:01,160 --> 02:53:07,880
self-improve But also, you know draw lines where you think things are unreasonable

1804
02:53:08,520 --> 02:53:12,920
right like if you if you you know acknowledge your own humanness and your own

1805
02:53:13,960 --> 02:53:19,400
flaws Um, but also, you know, do your best. I'm assuming you're joining a team

1806
02:53:20,280 --> 02:53:25,960
as well Like maybe there's like talk to your talk to your manager. Maybe there's like a way that you guys deal with that

1807
02:53:26,120 --> 02:53:30,040
How do you set? How does your team set expectations within the org that you're joining?

1808
02:53:30,840 --> 02:53:38,440
um I don't know unless you're joining as the only it person. I'm assuming there's some precedent set set for this

1809
02:53:39,320 --> 02:53:45,960
um And if there isn't There's opportunity to climb in the ranks. Yeah, I would say

1810
02:53:47,320 --> 02:53:53,240
Uh, next one We've got hi there question for Linus as a badminton player. Have you ever tried pickleball?

1811
02:53:53,240 --> 02:53:59,880
Yes, I recently picked it up and have quickly become addicted I think it's a nice blend of tennis and table tennis. Dude pickleball is so fun

1812
02:54:00,520 --> 02:54:04,200
Like I remember seeing a stat that it was the fastest growing racket sport in the u.s

1813
02:54:04,200 --> 02:54:06,600
I think this is like a year ago a couple years ago or something like that

1814
02:54:07,320 --> 02:54:11,960
And it's it's it's one of those games that really is and I kid you not

1815
02:54:12,440 --> 02:54:17,240
Really is fun for the whole family Like it's it's great fun for all ages seniors

1816
02:54:17,640 --> 02:54:22,520
Can just kind of stand right outside the kitchen and just kind of volley back and forth. They don't have to move too much

1817
02:54:23,160 --> 02:54:26,840
Kids can enjoy just like running around on the court and whacking it over

1818
02:54:27,720 --> 02:54:31,800
And then in between like high level pickleball is a very very challenging game

1819
02:54:31,880 --> 02:54:36,520
It's it's easy to learn impossible to master which is the mark of a great game

1820
02:54:36,760 --> 02:54:42,840
It's it's a ton of fun. If I hadn't gotten into badminton pickleball could have could have been could have been my sport

1821
02:54:43,160 --> 02:54:52,440
You can also play emma ball Emma ball emma ball emma ball the only time I've ever played pickleball was with emma and uh

1822
02:54:53,160 --> 02:54:56,200
Rich from texas. Yeah, uh who you've met. Yeah

1823
02:54:57,640 --> 02:55:04,520
And There was there was four of us, but we had two of the like wiffle ball things. I don't know what they're actually called

1824
02:55:05,160 --> 02:55:09,480
Um, so emma was like what if what if both sides basically served at the same time?

1825
02:55:10,840 --> 02:55:13,800
Then we try to see how this went and it was actually very fun

1826
02:55:14,280 --> 02:55:17,560
I don't think it's like viable for most racquet sports

1827
02:55:18,120 --> 02:55:23,080
But it was viable for pickleball and it was it was actually very entertaining and I call it emma ball

1828
02:55:24,520 --> 02:55:29,240
One of my badminton buddies sent me this What

1829
02:55:30,680 --> 02:55:32,680
What no comment

1830
02:55:34,360 --> 02:55:39,880
But this was from someone in chat that unfortunately I've forgotten about welcome to gt bike five

1831
02:55:40,920 --> 02:55:44,040
Grand theft bike five turns a smart bike trainer

1832
02:55:44,920 --> 02:55:51,720
Cycling power meter smart treadmill or stride running sensor into a game controller making your game time actual training time

1833
02:55:52,760 --> 02:55:56,280
So you cycle around what in grand theft auto

1834
02:55:56,840 --> 02:56:01,080
So Um

1835
02:56:01,080 --> 02:56:07,960
I have no idea if this is a virus or if it's even real or whatever, but if it's I've done zero vetting

1836
02:56:08,840 --> 02:56:17,000
But if it is what it is But it seems like that seems pretty cool. I don't really get it, but that's sick

1837
02:56:17,400 --> 02:56:21,880
I think I think I can feel both of those things at once. All right, cool

1838
02:56:22,440 --> 02:56:25,960
Uh, all right Uh

1839
02:56:25,960 --> 02:56:31,560
Linus since you have already gave a price estimate on the game cube. Uh, oh

1840
02:56:34,040 --> 02:56:40,280
Uh What is your estimate for this steam frame? Do you think it can be truly competitive with meta's

1841
02:56:40,920 --> 02:56:43,160
content advantage content advantage

1842
02:56:44,600 --> 02:56:49,640
I don't think meta's gonna have a content advantage for very long. I don't know about that. Um

1843
02:56:50,520 --> 02:56:57,320
Because vr developers are gonna be just hungry for any reasonable size install base

1844
02:56:58,440 --> 02:57:05,880
And I don't even think it would be worth it for meta to spend more and more like just to endlessly dump money into

1845
02:57:07,080 --> 02:57:13,800
It's also not the current hot developer lock-in. Yeah, mr. Zuckerberg. Yeah, so no no, I would see the steam frame

1846
02:57:14,760 --> 02:57:20,040
Very much being competitive on a on a content basis, especially with their support for

1847
02:57:20,520 --> 02:57:24,040
Just side loading apk's onto it. By the way, I'd like to

1848
02:57:25,000 --> 02:57:27,000
Digress for a moment here

1849
02:57:28,360 --> 02:57:36,440
Every time I say side loading to describe the process of just firing up an apk on an Android device

1850
02:57:36,840 --> 02:57:40,680
There's this kind of cohort of people that start

1851
02:57:41,480 --> 02:57:49,960
hooting about how That's just installing if you call it side floating. It normalizes closed ecosystems

1852
02:57:51,960 --> 02:57:58,360
What I'm doing is I'm using a word that has a very specific meaning that everybody understands and you need to chill

1853
02:57:59,160 --> 02:58:06,040
side loading means circumventing an app store to install an application

1854
02:58:07,000 --> 02:58:14,040
App for just applications to install an application on a device that would otherwise be more closed

1855
02:58:15,000 --> 02:58:19,000
It has a very clear meaning And you need to calm down

1856
02:58:19,800 --> 02:58:24,760
You're welcome Like base loader or something

1857
02:58:25,320 --> 02:58:28,120
Based loading. I like it. I like uh

1858
02:58:30,120 --> 02:58:37,960
Linus, what's your family's take on durian? Is it the king of fruit or gross fruit? What is your favorite fruit outside of north america?

1859
02:58:38,120 --> 02:58:43,320
Your favorite fruit that is native outside of north america. You missed the key word there. No, he's great. You're doing great

1860
02:58:43,960 --> 02:58:48,680
Uh, hold on. I'm gonna archive the Gabe cube one. Oh, someone else did it first. Good thing. I didn't do it

1861
02:58:49,160 --> 02:58:55,160
Um, okay. Everyone in my family loves durian except me. I literally won't be in the room while they're eating it

1862
02:58:55,320 --> 02:58:58,360
It smells like farts to me and I just I can't overcome that

1863
02:58:58,600 --> 02:59:02,040
Okay, so the durian smell is rough, but I also think it's

1864
02:59:02,680 --> 02:59:08,040
Nuts that people put durian smell and stinky tofu smell in the same bucket

1865
02:59:09,000 --> 02:59:15,240
No, don't think they're close. No, no, no durian smells like farts and stinky tofu smells like

1866
02:59:16,120 --> 02:59:22,920
Um, so it it smells like rotting dirty laundry water to me like it's like a whole nother level

1867
02:59:22,920 --> 02:59:29,560
Yeah, um Like like durian can be rough especially if it's like if you're in an enclosed room basically

1868
02:59:30,040 --> 02:59:33,400
Yeah, it's it's like being hot boxed with like that that

1869
02:59:33,960 --> 02:59:38,360
Gassy coworker like it's not like it's not a pleasure. It's not a good experience

1870
02:59:38,520 --> 02:59:43,960
I'd take durian over fish though. Honestly like a really fishy fish. I don't I'm not a seafood guy

1871
02:59:44,040 --> 02:59:46,360
It makes me feel pretty nauseated. So it's uh

1872
02:59:47,800 --> 02:59:53,960
Um, it's not that bad like it's still fruit with that said I've I've definitely gotten more used to it

1873
02:59:54,200 --> 03:00:00,760
So it'd be hard for me to Experience durian the way that I used to experience durian where I would like want to leave the house

1874
03:00:01,080 --> 03:00:03,400
Yvonne's family like cracked open a durian. Yeah

1875
03:00:04,760 --> 03:00:09,320
I'd be like i'm going out like

1876
03:00:09,720 --> 03:00:12,360
Uh, uh, oh favorite non

1877
03:00:13,320 --> 03:00:15,320
North American native fruit

1878
03:00:17,080 --> 03:00:21,880
Oh, dude, I don't even know like I wouldn't know the names of a lot of the like random fruits that I've tried

1879
03:00:22,760 --> 03:00:25,640
Blackcurrant is that not native to north america blackcurrant's pretty chill

1880
03:00:26,360 --> 03:00:30,680
I think we have bc or at least west coast varieties now

1881
03:00:30,760 --> 03:00:33,000
What are those like hyper crunchy?

1882
03:00:35,000 --> 03:00:38,920
What are where are autumn crisp grapes native to?

1883
03:00:40,360 --> 03:00:43,800
Origin that's a good question because that's gonna just default win for me

1884
03:00:44,760 --> 03:00:50,040
This is almost us. Okay. Yeah. So there non. Oh wait non north american native

1885
03:00:50,280 --> 03:00:57,320
Wait, the new variety was developed from a cross between parent varieties including italia, which I assume is from italy

1886
03:00:57,720 --> 03:01:01,960
muscat of alexandria, which I assume is I don't know roman and

1887
03:01:05,480 --> 03:01:09,880
Cara from turk menistan So i'm gonna go with autumn crisp grapes

1888
03:01:10,520 --> 03:01:14,520
There they're amazing I'm stealing one from chat, but peaches

1889
03:01:14,840 --> 03:01:17,640
Peaches are not north american native not native

1890
03:01:18,120 --> 03:01:25,240
Oh, fascinating. I think they're grown here okanagan valley thing. Yeah, I think they're grown here, but millions of peaches

1891
03:01:25,960 --> 03:01:33,960
peaches for free That well, yeah, that's the second line. Yeah, you know what we have a huckleberry's are native

1892
03:01:34,920 --> 03:01:40,360
But you're pretty nice. I don't know if most of the world even knows about huckleberries. How about you eat our native plants?

1893
03:01:40,920 --> 03:01:49,720
Got him. Yeah Lawl foot job sock launch greatest tease ever. Thank you guys for an entertaining show

1894
03:01:49,960 --> 03:01:55,880
Is there a way to take apart the scribe driver for cleaning? I love it, but it's getting a bit dirty

1895
03:02:02,120 --> 03:02:11,400
Done Well, hold on. No, no, I'm just I'm thinking I'm I wonder if he means the bolt action, but you can so you can unscrew

1896
03:02:11,400 --> 03:02:14,840
Wait, Sebastian's actually in the chat

1897
03:02:15,400 --> 03:02:19,720
Sebastian did we put loctite on the the bolt head?

1898
03:02:21,480 --> 03:02:29,480
Um Because I think he means I think he means in this mechanism. Yeah, it sounds like that's probably what's going on because that's definitely screwed in

1899
03:02:30,520 --> 03:02:36,280
We did put loctite. Okay. What kind did we put like blue loctite like you could just you could get her

1900
03:02:36,680 --> 03:02:40,520
And then you could put some more loctite on and you could put it back in or did we do like red loctite

1901
03:02:42,120 --> 03:02:46,040
Bot says I cleaned mine with an ultrasonic cleaner. That would be a good idea

1902
03:02:47,240 --> 03:02:51,720
That yeah, that would probably be a really good way. That would be a low low invasion

1903
03:02:52,360 --> 03:02:56,760
way to do it Uh

1904
03:02:56,760 --> 03:02:59,000
Sebastian will get back to us eventually instead of working

1905
03:03:00,600 --> 03:03:07,160
Uh, Sebastian says you can break it. The risk is getting loctite around. Okay. I don't even know what that means

1906
03:03:07,240 --> 03:03:11,080
But the point is I'll just on it cleaner after you take out the ink cartridge

1907
03:03:11,160 --> 03:03:14,600
I think if you're trying to reloctite it you might get loctite in places that you don't want

1908
03:03:14,680 --> 03:03:17,160
Oh, I see. You'll just be careful. Don't do that. Yeah, then

1909
03:03:17,960 --> 03:03:27,800
All right, cool. Good chat Uh, hi lld made a switch from 1300 k's that kept dying on me to 9800 x3d's a year ago

1910
03:03:28,120 --> 03:03:31,880
In hopes of better reliability. Yesterday it died as well

1911
03:03:32,600 --> 03:03:36,280
What are your thoughts on cps being so fragile these days, dude? You are a snake bit

1912
03:03:36,440 --> 03:03:42,040
Yeah, it feels like a unique experience for you. I think your motherboard. Oh, no, couldn't be your motherboard because you would have changed

1913
03:03:42,120 --> 03:03:50,120
But check power supply I'm going power supply or dirty wall power dirty wall power. Get a ups. Yeah, get a ups now

1914
03:03:50,680 --> 03:03:53,800
Yeah, there's like no way this is a thing. I

1915
03:03:54,760 --> 03:03:59,800
Think it would be a stretch to believe this so something's got to be going on cpus

1916
03:04:00,440 --> 03:04:03,960
Are now and have always been actually very durable

1917
03:04:04,440 --> 03:04:08,200
Or not well not durable, but very well validated very well engineered. Sure

1918
03:04:10,360 --> 03:04:13,320
It's rare that they uh go bad

1919
03:04:14,200 --> 03:04:21,960
Hey lld. Thanks for all the content and behind the scenes. I hope to once join a LAN event when traveling to

1920
03:04:22,440 --> 03:04:28,120
Canada after meeting with the real Linus. What's the next big thing on your achievement list?

1921
03:04:28,840 --> 03:04:32,600
I think we kind of talked about it. I don't know. I kind of peeked didn't I but

1922
03:04:33,240 --> 03:04:35,720
You kind of peeked. I mean, I'd say

1923
03:04:36,440 --> 03:04:40,040
Oh, I see. I I wouldn't say that like there's tim burners lee

1924
03:04:40,600 --> 03:04:46,440
There's the waz. Oh, yeah, sure. Gabe Newell. Gabe Newell. There's really cool ones. Yeah

1925
03:04:47,640 --> 03:04:52,920
Yeah, I'd be down. I'd be down for that in terms of like not like meeting a person achievements

1926
03:04:53,000 --> 03:05:00,440
I'm actually really excited for this coming year. Um, we shot part one of tech house yesterday

1927
03:05:00,920 --> 03:05:08,600
Oh, whoa, we went shopping Okay, we went to five how five candidates for tech house with the

1928
03:05:10,200 --> 03:05:15,720
With the explicit intention of offering on one of them and um

1929
03:05:16,680 --> 03:05:20,360
That's one of the things that I've had to kind of keep up within my dms during the show today

1930
03:05:20,760 --> 03:05:23,880
But we are making an offer. Oh, wow on one of them

1931
03:05:24,680 --> 03:05:28,680
Yeah, it's weird doing a show during a work day. I know there's a lot going on

1932
03:05:31,240 --> 03:05:38,840
Cut inconvenient But I'm really excited for the tech house series. I am and and honestly

1933
03:05:39,320 --> 03:05:45,080
That video ended up being way more of a video than even I thought it was like obviously I decided it was video worthy

1934
03:05:45,080 --> 03:05:47,560
Because we brought a camera with us. Yeah. Yeah, but like

1935
03:05:48,520 --> 03:05:53,880
There were so many interesting considerations for us to talk about and sort of provide insight

1936
03:05:54,360 --> 03:05:57,720
Into what we're looking for when we want to build a tech house

1937
03:05:58,440 --> 03:06:03,560
um, so I'm really excited for that and then we've got we've got another big

1938
03:06:04,440 --> 03:06:10,120
Sort of investment into a big sort of series and that will enable some other really cool content

1939
03:06:10,120 --> 03:06:16,600
But we're not ready to announce that just yet, but that's also coming in 2026. So it's going to be a pretty incredible year

1940
03:06:17,160 --> 03:06:20,680
cool No, it is not tech yacht

1941
03:06:21,080 --> 03:06:25,960
Tech yacht is dead. Yeah, but I will answer no further questions about it

1942
03:06:27,720 --> 03:06:36,040
Hello delicious little lemmings. That's pretty good. Actually, uh, thanks for the deals and free shipping. Who or what inspires you?

1943
03:06:38,680 --> 03:06:43,080
I'm inspired by uh

1944
03:06:43,080 --> 03:06:49,400
People who create a positive legacy that outlasts them. I don't know that I don't know that I have

1945
03:06:50,280 --> 03:06:59,400
the power Or you know the smarts to you know be a nicola tesla, but I'd say like a nicola tesla is someone pretty inspiring

1946
03:07:00,280 --> 03:07:06,920
um, I am a lot less inspired by people whose achievements have been great, but whose

1947
03:07:07,800 --> 03:07:16,040
um Moral fiber has been questionable like someone like a jobs where it's like you you start to get into

1948
03:07:16,520 --> 03:07:20,120
his dynamic with his baby mama and

1949
03:07:20,840 --> 03:07:24,120
Offspring and you kind of go. Yeah, you're kind of icky. Yeah

1950
03:07:26,600 --> 03:07:35,640
Yeah Best hotel story I'll start last week in Puerto Rico. I was also going to answer the previous one. Sorry. Sorry. No worries. Uh

1951
03:07:36,600 --> 03:07:44,040
I For me, honestly, it's it's a lot of as much as I don't create that much these days a lot of creative inspiration from youtubers

1952
03:07:44,520 --> 03:07:48,520
Um, I mentioned nakey jakey earlier in the show. That's definitely one for me

1953
03:07:48,600 --> 03:07:51,880
But then like, you know, tom scott is freaking sick

1954
03:07:52,520 --> 03:07:59,960
um someone that I've Really enjoyed their content for a while is uh, clio abram

1955
03:08:00,920 --> 03:08:06,840
Her stuff is just awesome Um, there's a bunch of really youtube is a

1956
03:08:07,800 --> 03:08:15,080
special place I think there's a lot of really cool stuff that happens on it and i'm constantly afraid that it's gonna move

1957
03:08:15,720 --> 03:08:20,200
more corporate more corporate focus more on, you know late night tv shows and

1958
03:08:21,160 --> 03:08:30,840
nfl or whatever else instead of Embracing it's like original the you part. Yeah, and uh, you know, they've held on for this long

1959
03:08:31,080 --> 03:08:37,720
I'm not that scared that they're gonna randomly just lose it But you you hear some things every once in a while that are like, oh come on guys like

1960
03:08:38,440 --> 03:08:44,680
Keep the focus where it's always been good. Uh, and yeah, I get I get inspiration from that

1961
03:08:46,040 --> 03:08:49,320
Yeah Uh, hold on. I've got a not merch message

1962
03:08:49,880 --> 03:08:56,760
To ginder sing in Floatplane chat says super excited to get the ultimate aio tv going picked it up a few hours ago

1963
03:08:57,160 --> 03:09:03,400
How can I make it more ultimate and maybe less jank any tips? I'm giving you no tips for your low ball offer

1964
03:09:06,200 --> 03:09:13,160
We got like Not enough for it, but I didn't want it. I didn't want to take it apart. It was such an incredible creation

1965
03:09:13,640 --> 03:09:18,840
Uh from alex and the rest of the team and so disassembling it felt awful

1966
03:09:19,400 --> 03:09:22,520
The uh, you know that that tv with all the consoles built into it

1967
03:09:22,920 --> 03:09:27,720
And so I was like, okay, no alex other alex alex dick in logistics

1968
03:09:27,800 --> 03:09:32,120
I want you to find someone locally because there's no way we can ship it

1969
03:09:32,440 --> 03:09:37,960
Who will give us a reasonable offer and that was the highest offer we got and it was it was frankly

1970
03:09:38,520 --> 03:09:42,920
Insultingly low, but you're welcome Enjoy your ultimate tv

1971
03:09:43,160 --> 03:09:47,880
And uh, it's it's so cool. It's so cool. Enjoy the heck out of it. You got a great deal

1972
03:09:47,880 --> 03:09:52,440
And you're getting no tips

1973
03:09:54,040 --> 03:09:58,680
Are you reading now Dan? No, are we getting hit again?

1974
03:10:01,320 --> 03:10:07,080
Okay, no, it's fine. I don't care either way. Um, okay best hotel story

1975
03:10:07,640 --> 03:10:12,840
Uh, I'll start. I thought Dan was telling his own story. Uh, I'll start last week in Puerto Rico

1976
03:10:13,080 --> 03:10:19,320
I went to the front desk to complain about the loud rainforest noises playing outside our room only to be told

1977
03:10:19,880 --> 03:10:21,880
Those are just the frogs, sir

1978
03:10:26,440 --> 03:10:28,440
That's actually amazing

1979
03:10:30,040 --> 03:10:37,000
They thought they thought it was like resort speakers. It's way too loud. That's so funny. Yeah. Oh, man

1980
03:10:38,200 --> 03:10:41,560
Suburbia person goes to Yeah

1981
03:10:41,560 --> 03:10:50,200
Rainforest and goes, hmm. I'm usually them forests. We making noises. I'm usually so tired when I travel that I I don't even

1982
03:10:51,160 --> 03:10:54,760
Remember probably 98 of the hotels I've ever stayed in

1983
03:10:55,320 --> 03:11:03,080
Um, so I'll just tell a recent story the I I thought this was cool as heck. Uh, the hotel we stayed at in china during the

1984
03:11:04,760 --> 03:11:11,000
Huawei Gym tour which by the way, have you watched that video? Yes, it's sick, right? It's pretty cool

1985
03:11:11,480 --> 03:11:14,280
I wish more people watched it because it's pretty cool. Oh, yeah that video

1986
03:11:14,920 --> 03:11:19,160
Bomb, but uh, but it it's a really cool facility where they

1987
03:11:19,800 --> 03:11:23,560
Validate like health tracker stuff. Um, they have just kind of

1988
03:11:24,200 --> 03:11:28,280
Like would that be what would you change to make that your dream gym?

1989
03:11:28,920 --> 03:11:34,920
Like it's pretty fancy everything. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's so cool. Anyway, um

1990
03:11:35,800 --> 03:11:43,880
The hotel I stayed at when we were doing that tour had in the lobby these little robots that, um

1991
03:11:44,760 --> 03:11:49,640
Have like a cavity in the chest of them. They're like a cylinder and they have a cavity

1992
03:11:49,960 --> 03:11:55,080
So instead of uber and lift drivers or whatever their equivalent is over there or skip the dishes

1993
03:11:55,640 --> 03:12:01,320
Um having to talk to the front desk or like bring the meal up or whatever

1994
03:12:02,120 --> 03:12:06,520
They just key in the room. Yeah Loaded into the thing close the thing

1995
03:12:07,320 --> 03:12:15,320
and peace And they will just automatically go up to the room and deliver it for you. I had one like almost run over my foot

1996
03:12:15,560 --> 03:12:18,920
Yeah, we had one of those like went over my foot a little not with the wheel

1997
03:12:19,000 --> 03:12:24,760
But just with the skirt and they they're like pushy They're they're so cheerful like i'm not i'm not gonna

1998
03:12:25,720 --> 03:12:31,000
I'm not gonna say things that sound chinese because that's like not a thing that you do

1999
03:12:31,560 --> 03:12:36,520
But I don't speak chinese so I can't but anyway the point is they didn't there was no english on them

2000
03:12:36,920 --> 03:12:42,360
So in chinese they'd be like pretty much along the lines of like i'm just on my way to get out right now

2001
03:12:42,920 --> 03:12:46,680
Make sure you're not in the way. Like it was just ridiculously cheerful

2002
03:12:47,400 --> 03:12:51,720
Um, and then it would just like plow past you to get out of the elevator and stuff

2003
03:12:51,720 --> 03:12:54,760
I'm gonna spin my arms and if you happen to get in the way. Yeah

2004
03:12:55,480 --> 03:13:01,240
That's your fault Okay, well, I'm gonna start kicking the air like this

2005
03:13:03,560 --> 03:13:07,640
And if your body happens to fill that air, that's your fault

2006
03:13:10,120 --> 03:13:15,240
Anyway Okay, I forgot to broadcast that one. I'm really good at this

2007
03:13:17,400 --> 03:13:20,040
I mean, I don't make you guys do this very often the dashboard is

2008
03:13:21,640 --> 03:13:25,480
Oh, I never broadcast the ones that we cure that we read when I dismiss them

2009
03:13:25,480 --> 03:13:28,120
I just archive them conrad yells at me if I don't oh

2010
03:13:28,840 --> 03:13:35,320
I think it's important. I don't ask questions whoopsie doodles also shout out conrad at the performance of the dashboard has been absolutely

2011
03:13:36,040 --> 03:13:45,080
Flawless today. Good job, dude Yeah, in spite of us having well over 1,100 merge messages. This is definitely record time absolute record

2012
03:13:45,880 --> 03:13:49,960
Uh, next one. I work in cyber security and keep receiving incorrect ai-generated

2013
03:13:50,600 --> 03:13:59,320
documentation Yeah, that's fun. Uh, what are your thoughts on people relying on ai as a crutch without actually checking if the info is correct

2014
03:14:00,040 --> 03:14:03,960
I mean, I've said this 10 trillion times. It's bad. You have to own your output

2015
03:14:04,920 --> 03:14:08,120
The easiest way to do that is just never use ai output

2016
03:14:08,280 --> 03:14:16,920
That's not realistic 100 of the time for how people use it But if you're going to submit something ever if it leaves your individual sphere of ownership

2017
03:14:17,720 --> 03:14:22,040
You own it. You have to own that output. You are responsible for that output

2018
03:14:22,360 --> 03:14:29,400
So you better check it or I think like, you know, if things are bad enough that can show up on performance reviews that can get you fired

2019
03:14:29,400 --> 03:14:31,960
I think that's all extremely legitimate. You have to be

2020
03:14:32,520 --> 03:14:35,000
Owning your output. There is no version of this where you don't

2021
03:14:35,720 --> 03:14:37,720
That's my stance

2022
03:14:38,760 --> 03:14:44,840
Hobsel toff says lots of hotels in the u.s. Have those little robots too. My friend Dan farted in one

2023
03:14:45,720 --> 03:14:53,720
What is it with Dan's? Okay Because it's something is it that you're given the name and it makes you chaotic evil?

2024
03:14:53,720 --> 03:14:57,480
I mean, there is or is it that your parents recognize

2025
03:14:58,440 --> 03:15:04,760
Your innate qualities and they name you Dan There is something to be said about how name affects your development

2026
03:15:05,320 --> 03:15:09,320
Like don't a lot of like podcasts have producers named Dan

2027
03:15:10,360 --> 03:15:12,760
I think it's more than it's more than a couple

2028
03:15:13,400 --> 03:15:16,040
Can't remember who had a Dan as a producer

2029
03:15:17,000 --> 03:15:24,280
I don't know we're weird people fascinating. Anyway Labs web Dan full plane Dan said, uh, so many of us you got to stand out

2030
03:15:26,360 --> 03:15:30,760
Not all attention is good attention That was the first time I ever experienced

2031
03:15:30,920 --> 03:15:35,960
Um, we we had so we had a Dan on the full plane team and then we didn't have a Dan on the full plane team

2032
03:15:36,200 --> 03:15:39,480
And then we got another Dan on the full plane team and I just kind of assigned them

2033
03:15:40,440 --> 03:15:43,080
Like I had deleted the previous ones email

2034
03:15:44,040 --> 03:15:48,840
So I didn't assign them the same email inbox, but I assigned them the same email like handle

2035
03:15:49,560 --> 03:15:56,200
Oh, and then they went to go like sign up for services and their account already existed, right? Yeah, that was like

2036
03:15:56,440 --> 03:15:58,840
Oh, yeah, that was not good foresight. Yeah

2037
03:16:00,120 --> 03:16:06,440
Well, that was when we we did the company was so small at that time. It was all you know first name. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah

2038
03:16:08,360 --> 03:16:10,760
And I guess that's why that doesn't happen. Yeah

2039
03:16:11,720 --> 03:16:13,720
Yeah, cool

2040
03:16:18,200 --> 03:16:21,320
You had all these problems onboarding because he'd be like, uh, well

2041
03:16:30,360 --> 03:16:32,360
Anyway

2042
03:16:36,920 --> 03:16:39,720
It's been leaked before I know but anyway

2043
03:16:40,760 --> 03:16:42,760
That'll be a rough day

2044
03:16:45,880 --> 03:16:53,320
Okay, what else we got uh, I work in cyber security says michelle and I keep receiving. Oh wait, what the ah broadcast dang it lube

2045
03:16:54,520 --> 03:17:01,960
Oh, no, we uh, we both did it next one. Hello Linus and luke Linus. This is a rude question. Do you have a favorite cat?

2046
03:17:01,960 --> 03:17:03,960
Yeah

2047
03:17:06,760 --> 03:17:13,080
Okay, this is gonna be tough because there's lots of different things to like about different kinds of cats for instance

2048
03:17:14,200 --> 03:17:18,280
Smart oscelots are objectively the most beautiful of the cats

2049
03:17:19,160 --> 03:17:23,160
They are just Stunning in every possible way

2050
03:17:24,360 --> 03:17:28,680
They're beautiful. They're so cool Um

2051
03:17:28,680 --> 03:17:35,240
Oscelots, they're they're the most beautiful of the cats. No question. Um, however, you know with that said

2052
03:17:36,040 --> 03:17:40,280
not everything is about looks and

2053
03:17:40,280 --> 03:17:43,240
You know the the peter bald is apparently

2054
03:17:44,360 --> 03:17:49,160
Known to be one of the biggest snugglers and they're just makes up for it in personality

2055
03:17:49,240 --> 03:17:55,160
Look for the look at them. Look at them, right? Beauty on the inside. Okay. I also own a hot water bottle

2056
03:17:55,560 --> 03:18:02,680
Okay, but you know, how can you how can you question the raw?

2057
03:18:03,880 --> 03:18:12,840
Just Performance of this machine. Yeah, the mighty not mighty but very fast cheetah

2058
03:18:14,360 --> 03:18:18,120
It really is amazing watching them really go for it running

2059
03:18:20,440 --> 03:18:23,720
How long does it go without even touching the ground? Isn't that incredible?

2060
03:18:26,120 --> 03:18:30,360
It brings new meaning to the term zoomies. That was not even going that hard. Yeah, um

2061
03:18:31,320 --> 03:18:37,400
But in terms of you know Day-to-day, I think theoretically you don't actually want to be not touching the ground for all that long

2062
03:18:38,200 --> 03:18:44,760
but day-to-day You know what? These guys are the ones that need a home more than anyone else because

2063
03:18:45,560 --> 03:18:49,000
They're not well, okay. This is a technically a breed or whatever

2064
03:18:49,080 --> 03:18:58,200
But just your your your run of the mill see at Yeah, um, we have too many of them for how many homes there are for them. So those are my favorites to adopt

2065
03:18:58,360 --> 03:19:02,680
I I made the I'll call it a mistake of of buying

2066
03:19:04,120 --> 03:19:11,320
Fancy breed of cat for my first, you know, grown-up cat my adulting cats and um

2067
03:19:12,200 --> 03:19:15,000
I shouldn't have because there's lots of there's lots of

2068
03:19:15,560 --> 03:19:21,960
homeless cats that that need a good loving home And uh, that's that's my favorite to have in my home

2069
03:19:22,680 --> 03:19:25,320
Is cats that need a home cats that I find in my yard

2070
03:19:26,680 --> 03:19:36,600
This is why you having five to ten cats is okay Exactly because who else is going to take care of them and like a lot of people have two cats and you're like a bunch of people

2071
03:19:37,480 --> 03:19:43,240
So you can have two each exactly John br asks would you adopt an ocelot? I would not

2072
03:19:43,960 --> 03:19:47,080
Because they are apparently very difficult to litter train

2073
03:19:47,720 --> 03:19:51,880
and their pee is like

2074
03:19:51,880 --> 03:19:54,680
Wildcat pee marking territory pee

2075
03:19:57,880 --> 03:20:01,400
Hi lld considering the free shipping I'd consider a serval though

2076
03:20:03,080 --> 03:20:07,640
I still want a main coon. I still want a serval. They're like 15 feet long

2077
03:20:08,840 --> 03:20:14,440
Terrifying animals. Hi ld considering the free shipping even for trans oceanic orders

2078
03:20:14,840 --> 03:20:20,680
How are you able to eat the cost of the shipping and still earn a profit in my case 42 cad?

2079
03:20:21,240 --> 03:20:24,920
for transatlantic on a 105 cad order

2080
03:20:26,680 --> 03:20:29,560
Which is probably also already a bundle

2081
03:20:31,000 --> 03:20:36,120
um I think the answer is that we hope not of them not a ton of them are like that

2082
03:20:37,240 --> 03:20:43,160
yeah And we hope that people will yeah buy some stuff that's at full price

2083
03:20:43,480 --> 03:20:48,520
Go find some apparel and hook it in there. But it is what it is. Uh, but yeah, it is what it is

2084
03:20:48,520 --> 03:20:51,640
I mean, this is a once a year thing

2085
03:20:51,640 --> 03:20:58,360
Black friday like we run other promotions throughout the year, but um pretty big. Yeah, but but black friday happens

2086
03:20:58,440 --> 03:21:01,080
But once a year and you know, we want to make sure that we're

2087
03:21:01,960 --> 03:21:07,560
We're an exciting place to go on black friday. We don't want to disappoint you guys and so we we dig deep and we

2088
03:21:07,960 --> 03:21:13,240
Try to make an exciting promo. I don't know really what else to say

2089
03:21:13,880 --> 03:21:17,960
um We you know overall we operate a profitable

2090
03:21:18,760 --> 03:21:25,320
apparel and a profitable physical goods that are not apparel business and we

2091
03:21:27,000 --> 03:21:29,720
Are, you know, extremely grateful for all of your support

2092
03:21:30,520 --> 03:21:33,640
And this is not the time of year that we make as much margin

2093
03:21:38,520 --> 03:21:48,520
Um next up Hello, wancho. I am in need of a tech tip for some reason. My pc's clock keeps slowly getting further out of sync

2094
03:21:49,160 --> 03:21:53,560
Any ideas? Is it my 1300k or motherboard?

2095
03:21:54,120 --> 03:22:00,520
Does this I think your seamos battery might be that sounds like might be bad. I don't know. Does that make your does that make it drift?

2096
03:22:01,880 --> 03:22:04,840
I've never heard of this problem personally

2097
03:22:05,240 --> 03:22:11,560
Yeah, would that make it drift people say motherboard seamos, but is it the seamos the battery seamos? Yeah, I'd be the battery then

2098
03:22:12,360 --> 03:22:15,480
Uh, yeah, apparently it does make it drift. Yeah, there you go replace the little button cell

2099
03:22:15,560 --> 03:22:20,680
That's on your motherboard or just don't care and set your operating system to check all the time. Yeah

2100
03:22:21,800 --> 03:22:27,160
Yeah, those are both options. I think most of them do automatically these days. I'm a little surprised. This was a thing, but

2101
03:22:28,040 --> 03:22:31,800
Yeah, uh, probably the best merge message of the night

2102
03:22:32,440 --> 03:22:37,000
merge message number 100 1000 there you are my goodness

2103
03:22:37,480 --> 03:22:43,720
There you are watching right now. Yeah. Thanks for carto. We we already mentioned it, but we're doing it again apparently. Oh nice

2104
03:22:44,200 --> 03:22:48,520
Yeah solid sick Uh, I'm starting a new

2105
03:22:49,240 --> 03:22:51,800
Oh, wait, uh, this one is already done

2106
03:22:52,360 --> 03:22:59,320
Okay LLD. I'm writing an article for a local zine. Oh, it's been a while zine zine. It's been a while

2107
03:22:59,960 --> 03:23:07,560
About preservation. Would you be willing to provide an extremely brief blurb about the importance of things like the internet archive?

2108
03:23:12,520 --> 03:23:16,280
Internet archive is pretty important. Yeah, how do we how do we define?

2109
03:23:16,600 --> 03:23:22,840
I mean, it's very very easy for an increasingly corporate controlled internet. It's very very easy to

2110
03:23:23,800 --> 03:23:27,080
hide misdeeds to change things

2111
03:23:27,640 --> 03:23:32,440
to pretend bad things never happened etc etc etc and

2112
03:23:34,120 --> 03:23:37,720
To be able to keep a record on that is maintain accountability

2113
03:23:37,880 --> 03:23:45,000
And maintain accountability is difficult and the internet archive does an incredible job of not just doing that but making

2114
03:23:46,280 --> 03:23:51,960
The the utilization of their archive be actually very approachable. Yeah, it's very navigable

2115
03:23:52,200 --> 03:23:57,480
You can you can find the thing that you need and you can walk someone through finding it very quickly and easily

2116
03:23:57,800 --> 03:24:00,760
um, it's a fantastic service and

2117
03:24:01,400 --> 03:24:05,560
Knowledge is power and the internet archive gives us more power than we would have without it

2118
03:24:06,200 --> 03:24:10,200
There's there's a very old saying which unfortunately gets a little bit less true

2119
03:24:10,440 --> 03:24:14,840
Constantly, but it's the whole the internet never forgets thing and the internet archive is one of the

2120
03:24:15,400 --> 03:24:22,920
Few ways that that is still true I think it's the last major bastion of the internet not forgetting because pretty much everything else is quite

2121
03:24:23,800 --> 03:24:28,280
If it's a week old, it's gone. Yeah, unless an an archive has it so

2122
03:24:29,080 --> 03:24:34,440
yeah And last one I have for you today. Oh wow

2123
03:24:36,040 --> 03:24:41,000
Hi lld I have found your products worth the extra spend a couple times a year

2124
03:24:41,400 --> 03:24:48,760
But has the increasing economic fragility over the last few years made you rethink mostly having niche products?

2125
03:24:49,160 --> 03:24:55,880
On the contrary, um from our internal conversations recently, I would say we are

2126
03:24:57,080 --> 03:25:02,840
happy with our strategy to have premium niche products that are that are not

2127
03:25:03,800 --> 03:25:06,760
easily replicated by someone else because

2128
03:25:07,720 --> 03:25:14,680
Um, we've talked about this on the show a little bit lately, but apparently it's a half of us spending now is the top 10% of earners

2129
03:25:15,240 --> 03:25:18,600
So I think that's just going to keep getting worse. So the disposable

2130
03:25:19,320 --> 03:25:23,800
Uh income is is highly concentrated in people who have

2131
03:25:24,760 --> 03:25:31,240
niche hobbies and are willing to spend on them in order to get the best experience

2132
03:25:31,240 --> 03:25:36,600
And I think in a lot of cases we strive to provide an outstanding experience

2133
03:25:37,000 --> 03:25:43,160
Um Even if it's not necessarily at the lowest price like our whole product design philosophy is

2134
03:25:44,600 --> 03:25:48,600
If it could make the product $10 better and it only costs 10 cents

2135
03:25:49,560 --> 03:25:59,240
Don't ask me about it. Just do it Um, and so I'm I'm really proud of the the quality. I'm proud of the development process. We obviously have

2136
03:26:00,120 --> 03:26:05,720
Constraints, you know, we have a you know a fashion calendar Like you have to have seasonal items when they make sense

2137
03:26:06,040 --> 03:26:08,840
That's something we're trying to clean up a lot compared to previous years

2138
03:26:09,400 --> 03:26:15,400
But even with that said, you know, we very much take a do things right approach to our to our product development

2139
03:26:15,480 --> 03:26:20,120
I think that's um, I think that's something that people will be willing to pay a little more for

2140
03:26:20,600 --> 03:26:25,000
Another thing is that I'm a big proponent of the boots economic theory

2141
03:26:25,080 --> 03:26:28,840
I I think that when someone says I can't afford a high quality item

2142
03:26:29,320 --> 03:26:35,720
My immediate counterpoint is no what you can't afford is a low quality item that will break down and to be replaced over time

2143
03:26:35,720 --> 03:26:41,400
I mean the scribe driver is yeah, it's an expensive pen. It's $30, right? 30 us dollars for a pen. That's insane

2144
03:26:42,040 --> 03:26:47,720
but There's lots of pens that are more expensive. Well, no, I mean in compared to like a bick roller

2145
03:26:47,800 --> 03:26:50,440
Oh, absolutely. And bicks are based but you crack it open

2146
03:26:51,160 --> 03:26:55,480
and you put a new cartridge in it and then you just keep using it and

2147
03:26:56,280 --> 03:27:03,160
Obviously, you know, I'm not going to say that it will last a hundred years because I have no way of knowing that for sure

2148
03:27:03,480 --> 03:27:06,920
But what I can say is that we have taken

2149
03:27:09,720 --> 03:27:15,720
Good faith efforts to make it so that it conceivably could last functionally forever

2150
03:27:16,280 --> 03:27:20,280
Um, and we just we try to make sure we build good quality products that last for a long time

2151
03:27:23,080 --> 03:27:28,920
And I'm never going to apologize for that. It's something that's a little more expensive, but

2152
03:27:30,760 --> 03:27:36,280
You don't have to replace And I'm never going to apologize for this being the end of the wanshow

2153
03:27:37,240 --> 03:27:40,200
We'll see you again next week guys same bad time same bad channel

2154
03:27:41,080 --> 03:27:43,080
Sorry, that's the end of the wanshow. Bye

2155
03:27:45,720 --> 03:27:51,320
Oh Dan never mind button. How you doing? There it goes. Sorry about that

2156
03:27:56,200 --> 03:28:00,200
Oh Wait, no wait wait wait wait wait wait stop

2157
03:28:00,760 --> 03:28:06,200
Stop the presses wait wait. We're trying something today. What wait? We're trying something today. The show's not over

2158
03:28:06,600 --> 03:28:11,960
Hold on. Did everybody leave already? No, what are we trying? Hold on. We're trying something today. Are they still here?

2159
03:28:12,200 --> 03:28:16,120
Yeah, a lot of them are still here. Okay. Okay. Hold on. No, we're not leaving

2160
03:28:16,440 --> 03:28:22,680
Well, we are but not until we do a thing one sec. Okay. We're trying something today. We've never tried this before

2161
03:28:23,160 --> 03:28:31,480
I Am about to set this video live. Oh, that's fun. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, we're gonna do a push to this video

2162
03:28:31,640 --> 03:28:38,440
And we're gonna see if that like has an algorithmic benefit. We're doing a little a little experiment to molation

2163
03:28:39,320 --> 03:28:44,920
Nation thing here. So Dan, I just dropped you. Don't worry about it. Dan. I just dropped you a link

2164
03:28:45,800 --> 03:28:51,320
Red magic has this phone that's got water cooling in it. We did a video. We tear it down. We talk about

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How how much the water cooling does or it doesn't actually cool the phone, but it's still pretty sick

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and we are going to Launch it right now. You might have seen it from other creators like weeks ago, but our video will be cool. It will be different

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Uh, so we're gonna launch it right now. I'm gonna wait. What's happening? Unlisted. No, no public. Here we go public

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Um What is happening right now? Okay. Yeah, we're gonna launch it right now and then you guys are all gonna go to it right now

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Okay, everybody ready Three two one go

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Okay, now the show is now the show is over

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Well, this video is not showing yet. No, no, no, it's it's it's it's it's it's public. No

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It's public Uh, did you copy the link Dan? Yeah. Yeah, okay. Follow the link everyone

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Did you post it in all the different chats? Yeah, what about twitch chat? Did you remember twitch chat?

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Actually, forget it. Don't post it in twitch chat I don't need there. I don't need their filthy views

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I don't know. Sorry. I haven't bullied twitch chat in a while. It just felt I felt overdue

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I think I think people can have free right to post that they came from way in

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People like posting really early on things. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's like 10 000 people that posted first

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Really? Not actually, but there's a lot. Wow. That that is something. Okay. It's more than normal. Look look look look

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Uh, no, that's about normal. Oh really? Oh, yeah

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And then it's just wancho. Yeah, then it's just wancho Yeah, I'll be very interested to see if a push off of a live stream makes a big difference

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Okay, so go watch the video now all if if 8 000 of you don't do it then I'll know that you're not good at following instructions

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Oh I'll know speaking of following instructions. We'll see you again next week same bad time same bad channel. Bye

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