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What up? Oh, hi, Mark. Oh, hi, Mark.

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Oh, hi, Mark. Oh, hi, Mark. God damn it.

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Well, what, what, nice. We have a Mark here, and he cannot escape that.

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Yeah, I know. I can't either. But I still find it, I still like it.

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It's kind of a deep cut. And maybe once a month I get it from someone,

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and I like it every time.

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That's a very tactful way of saying, oh my god,

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we're not hanging out at Next Creator Summit. You're not original. That just means that you're not original, you know?

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No. Hey, hey, look, who's more original?

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Mark or Linus? Yeah, definitely Linus.

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Or your parents. At least your parents are more original than we are.

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That's actually what my mom says. We're like, why did you name us? Because Mark, Brian, and Lisa are my siblings' names as well.

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And she's like, I just picked the most popular names at the time.

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That's such a terrible, that's not cool. That's not a good, like, story.

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Yeah, the problem with Mark now is it's like Walter and Barbara.

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It's becoming like an old person. It's not cool anymore.

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So it's like, oh man, in like 20 years, it's going to be one of those names.

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You're the new Hans. Yeah. No, like Randolph.

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Yeah, yeah, exactly. So how's the NAS treating you?

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It's amazing. Well, so the NAS is amazing.

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The computer we got, we're just freaking selling it for scrap.

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I mean, I don't even think you guys got us a smoke and deal on it. So it wasn't a thing.

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But like, so they bought a system from Puget to do the conversions from the raw footage to proxies.

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But because they're like strictly a Mac house,

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apparently there's some weird issues with the proxies not performing very well.

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The codecs are different on a PC versus a Mac for some reason.

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Yeah. Yeah. The answer is, well, guess what?

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Apple just came out with these great new Mac studios, you know? Yeah, that's a good way to go.

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Which is doing the job for us great. But yeah, the NAS is amazing.

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And then I also love the idea, too, because we're going to do a second one that's

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like at another location. So then we're like fully mirroring back down.

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Really? I have no idea what you're talking about. You don't say. Is that it?

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No way. Thank you for sharing your future plans with me.

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Yeah, maybe they didn't brief you too much on this. But that's what we're doing today.

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Oh, really? Oh, this is amazing. Yeah, we're going to do an offsite backup.

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And you are going to sleep so much easier at night

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knowing that every night, everything that you ingest to your main editing NAS, which can be used

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by any of his editors, both local, remote, whatever.

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If Mark just wants to check on something and get to, oh, yeah. What did I say in that other thing?

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So everything that he dumps on there is going to be replicated to this one

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so that in the event of a fire or other disaster,

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the data won't be lost because the hardware has a value.

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Sure. In thousands of dollars, what's the data worth to you, Mark?

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It's like $20 minimum.

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Just kidding. Per kilobyte. Priceless Linus.

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It's priceless. And that is the punch line here. It's like it's the peace of mind, even just having the NAS.

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I wish I should go grab it. I'll send you a B roll shot of it.

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But it was stored on these little Western digital hard drives

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in a Tupperware in my freaking closet.

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And so knowing everything I own is in a NAS here.

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And then now, if we have a fire here, knowing that it's backed up a second physical location,

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again, knock on whatever.

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Light my head. Class.

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A game changer, absolute game changer.

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Do you have any regrets not going with a DAS?

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Because I got to give them credit. They did their research.

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Like, your plan was not stupid. It was just like the MAC plan.

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Yeah. No, I think it's working well for us. I think the other thing that was different,

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that kind of was something we had to wrap our head around,

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was that we don't necessarily have a bunch of editors in here

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working physically on site, where you need a network that

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we're all connected to Ethernet. We don't have a lot of editors, first of all.

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But second of all, we just kind of put it on proxies on drop line.

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It's kind of our workflow. Our main need was just like a one central computer that

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had the raws on it that stored it all, that when it's time to export the video,

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we all work on proxies, then we just all, we remote into that and export it from that computer.

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Awesome. Awesome. So yeah, it's working amazingly.

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It's the freaking best. It's just the best. And it's something we wouldn't have been

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able to figure out on our own at all. And our solution was going to be a lot more expensive than the

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one you guys proposed. So you were able to look at what our actual needs were

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and being like, look, you don't need the Ferrari to go to the grocery store.

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You just need, for what you guys need, this is what the perfect solution would be.

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You know that's how I got into this, right? Yeah, right?

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Wasn't it like talking with other YouTubers who had issues?

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No, I would hang out on the forum. The computer store I used to shop at had a forum.

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And it just offended me so much when I saw people spending too

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much money on something that wasn't as good, that I was one of those rabid, like, I know you could save

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$10 and be 3% faster.

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You know, I was one of those people. And basically, I've just turned it into a career.

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Yeah. I remember I did ask you at Bidsummit a question.

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I don't even know what I asked you about. But any question I asked you about,

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it was like the most thorough response. I understood about 5% of it.

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But it was very clear. You don't give yourself enough credit. I'm sure you got the important stuff.

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Most of it was probably fluff.

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What was I going to say about that, too? Oh, yeah, I mean, because that's the thing, right?

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There's never one solution fits all. And I think a lot of times they'll just kind of sell you

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the most expensive thing. But it completely depends on the needs of the customer, right?

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And I think even as a YouTuber, my needs are pretty different than other YouTubers.

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And maybe theirs would be different from another. So there's no way around, besides the customized solution.

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Dude, I know so many folks whose entire workflow

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is that they just never wipe SD cards.

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So they just shoot to an SD card.

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They copy it onto their computer, like their MacBook or whatever, one project at a time.

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They edit it. It's uploaded. It's done. It's out.

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It's out of their mind. They wipe the SD card. That's it.

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So the SD card is their second copy. Oh, so they don't wipe the SD card, though.

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I thought you just said they wipe the SD card. That's it. They don't wipe it until the video is uploaded.

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So the SD card is their backup. And their other copy is the one on their local drive.

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And then when it's uploaded, they just are like, well, this doesn't exist anymore.

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See you later. I hope I'll never need a full quality copy of this again.

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Yeah, we would do that. We would keep it on as a Western digital in my closet.

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But that was the only single spot was in my closet. But yeah, we had one backed up in one spot.

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It's like, I should have done this eight years ago.

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So I just, I'm trying to think of a good analogy.

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Just one of those things, we're just like having this. Because this is what we are.

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We make videos. This is our core product, right?

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So it's like our Fort Knox for everything

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just didn't even have a lock on it. And now it's actually organized and locked.

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And I can sleep at night. I always tell people, people will ask me, what do you do?

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Like if they are meeting me for the first time. And I don't say, I do YouTube.

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I say, I am a YouTuber. Like it's a personal identity.

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And I don't even think about it. It's something that I had to reflect on and go, no, OK.

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And here we are just like treating this like,

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and you know what, realistically, I got to tell you, you're probably going to go back and actually use

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this footage like very rarely.

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But it's there. Yeah. Yeah, that's right.

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It's there. But we just had this situation. We're getting a bunch of our videos translated.

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And we had to, we use this like, because we had to go back

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and like get the stems and stuff. And no, if we didn't have the server,

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that made our lives infinitely easier. We went back like 40 videos, right?

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That's awesome. That's awesome. I'm so glad. So we are just about set up here to demo the off-site backup

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capabilities. Jake, how close are you setting up Kale scale?

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I think we're ready to go here. There we go. I've lost you just for a second.

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You said we're just about set up here to demo the and you cut out.

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Off-site backup. So we're going to live try to sync the machine that's

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with you, which is thousands of miles away from us up here

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in Vancouver to this machine right here. And hopefully it'll just work.

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This little cable. Wait. It all rests on this little cable right here.

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This also means that you'll be in possession of my entire back

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catalog of footage. So you better not start like a TikTok and bootlegging all my videos, Linus.

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I mean, you signed the end user license agreement, right?

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And the privacy policy. Did you read it? Did you read it, Mark?

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Of course. I could have read it. This was your end game all along, curse you.

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You're only one of them. You are just one gear in this machine.

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No. Honestly, it would still be worth it, even if you did that.

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It would be worth it. That's how good. That's how good it's been.

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This is exciting. So how long will it take? Because I think we have like.

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You have 100 terabytes. It's going to take like a week.

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So first go will take, however, I mean,

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you've got one gig connection there. We'll probably set it to run at like half that speed

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so it doesn't just destroy your internet. So you don't go to upload a video.

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Yeah, what's going on? Why does Google suck?

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So probably like a week or two. And then once that's done, every subsequent update,

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every subsequent sync, it only copies

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that extra little bit. So it's a lot faster.

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What's really cool about this is that in the event that you guys were to suffer from some kind

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of a cryptographic attack, right?

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Like a ransomware. There's really advanced ransomwares out there that will go

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and they will start encrypting everything, even on network attached drives that are accessible

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to the infected machine. So because we're using a technology called snapshotting,

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where it will actually retain an old non-encrypted copy

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on that remote server, theoretically, you will be able to go back in time,

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kind of like Apple time machine, and restore it to a state before it was encrypted.

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And it'll be super inconvenient and it'll suck. In fact, it might even be faster to literally get in the car

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and sneaker net that other machine back into the office

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so you can not lose production time compared to,

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copying it back over or whatever. But you'll have it, which is better.

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So when you guys ship it to us, it'll already have all the stuff on it, huh?

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It will sort of. So it'll have everything on it, but we're gonna pull all the hard drives out

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for safety during shipping because they can be quite sensitive. We wanna ship them in a proper hard drive shipping container.

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So theoretically, and we might need to give you a little 15 minutes of remote help with it or whatever,

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but theoretically- Well, we already did this once, remember? Right, so you'll take those drives,

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you'll slam them into this machine and everything will just pick up.

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I'm so excited. This is, I'm truly just something in my brain.

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It's just like, it's just so excited to get this peace of mind.

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Cause that's what this is. This is like insurance and peace of mind and something that's been nagging on me forever.

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Every time I open the fricking closet and see that pile of hard drives.

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Mark's a trendsetter, okay? Technology is officially actually cool now.

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It's not just me saying it. It's cool cause my hat's backwards.

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I'm cool.

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No, wait, no, I don't have the video up. He's probably wearing a backwards hat too.

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I see him in the back of the hat, oh he is.

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No, that's my stick. I'm always wearing a backwards hat, so I'm like the cool guy.

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Wait, are you copying him? Yeah, I am, I'm the trendsetter.

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His hat's not even from lttstore.com.

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Speaking of which, if there's any merch I can put in a package for you, let me know, have we already sent them

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screwdrivers and stuff? I don't know. Yes, I mean you should.

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That would be amazing. We use screwdrivers around here. We're getting close here.

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I swear to you, it is actually a good screwdriver and you're gonna use it.

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I'm only gonna send you one because I'm like the pusher.

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First sample's free and you're gonna buy more. Okay, deal.

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Wait, maybe we did already send them some. I can't remember.

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When are you coming down to the Bay Area by the way? Oh man, I've been traveling so little dude

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but I will message you.

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There's always something. There's Googles down here. There's like conferences.

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Oh, good old Google. If you're ever in the area, for sure,

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you gotta stop by. All right, all right.

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You can see her. Maybe for Vancouver, it's worth it. Vancouver's awesome.

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Vancouver is nice. I was just in Bellingham like a few weeks ago.

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Okay, in theory, it's running now.

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Okay. Oh yeah, look at that. Hey, look at that.

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We're getting about 40 megabytes a second. Well, just give it a sec.

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Yeah, that's gonna take a sec. Nice. Well, it's actually better

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that it's running a bit slower because if it were to just like fully use that pipe,

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like we said before, your internet would be absolutely mangled. Yeah.

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No, that's good because our, and I think you said too,

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we can send it on schedules where you just do it after 9 p.m. or something, right?

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Yeah, totally. And another thing you can do too, actually,

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is if it's not too much of a trek between your two locations,

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you could bring it on site, do the first sync at full gigabit

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or even, I don't know what to switch to have. We have 10 gig, we have 10 gig. Okay, so at ball and speeds,

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and then you can go and take the other one off site

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after the fact. This is awesome, dude. We've already,

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we've actually already transferred two gigabytes here. I just, I grabbed some,

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Addy said to just grab this random project that was really old.

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I think it was called like Watermelon something. Okay, so to talk, to talk.

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I was gonna say like two gigabytes,

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that's like my first probably 12 videos

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when I was filming like a flip camera. I think this whole project is six gigs.

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Do you remember it was called like Watermelon Smoothie or something like that? Oh yeah, yeah, I know the Watermelon Smoothie.

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It's a classic. Play the clip.

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I'm sorry, we like put a coat hanger with the drill into a water smell.

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Oh yeah. You can just liquefy it and then you pour it out.

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Hey, hey, tell me, Mark, I wanna know which of us had the worst first camera.

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Do you remember the model number of your first camera? Oh, it was like a Sony,

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it's like a Sony silver hand cam that flipped out. It was probably about $800.

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It recorded on the DV tapes, I think.

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When did you buy that? It would have been 2004.

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So 2006 maybe, and my first video was 2011.

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You know what, my first LTT camera

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actually from the exact same year came out in 2004.

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It's the PowerShot SX-1IS.

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Made by Sony? Canon. It didn't even support external microphones.

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So the operator always had to be close enough to me that the mic on the front would pick up what I was saying.

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Like the front of the camera? Yeah.

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When was your first upload against Linus? When was your first upload?

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Okay, mine's complicated because my first upload to NCIX tech tips

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where I worked was I think 2006.

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Man, I don't even. 15 years ago. 15 years ago, goodness,

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I hate watching this number keep getting older or bigger.

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2007, sorry, 2007, July 2007 was my first upload.

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What I love about us YouTubers is like, you could just, the growth mindset,

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and I love going back and looking at like the first video

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and just how much, you know what I mean, like an actor, their first time,

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first time they act they're already like a good actor for more or less, right?

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If they're like a mainstream actor, but like, I love with YouTubers, you go back,

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you just see the growth and like how you get better at talking to cameras and coming up with scripts

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and ideas and it's a lovely. The early stuff's unwatchable, dude.

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I know, but it's like unwatchable. It's such a lovely, delightful way.

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It's like across the board. Pick any YouTuber you look at their first video.

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I think his earlier stuff is better than mine. No, it's not.

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Roll the freaking clip. Do it calm, you'll see.

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Well, speaking of which, speaking of rolling. Yeah, you have the clip there, just play the clip.

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Yeah, let's steal some clips here. It has finished transferring,

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so why don't we actually try and roll this clip?

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Oh no, and then you can see how I named my files. It's like, smoothie, final, export, final, final.

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Under score one, underscore one. Yeah, underscore one, final, final this time.

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Oh, we should totally glitter prom Linus. Yeah, we shouldn't.

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That's a banger video. I didn't do anything to deserve that.

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My favorite part of your, this is a bit of a non-sequitur, but it just for some reason reminded me

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of a package going to your house, but my favorite part, in the video where you got hacked

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and you had like the security camera in your house, didn't you have to blur out your junk, right?

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Like, you're just. Yeah, we have a team member that's,

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it's part of their, you know, their contract to do that whenever we need to do that.

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Well, it's not like that. It's like that he accidentally saw it once.

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So now it's like, well, it's nothing you haven't seen before.

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That's like in the contract, in the fine print.

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That's amazing. He has a technique though. Do you know what his technique is?

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Just like squint.

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No, he, he blurs the whole frame

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and then he makes it smaller and smaller and smaller and smaller.

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Oh, that's funny. That's a good thing. So he doesn't have to see anything.

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Yeah, I'm amazed you outs. I feel like I would have had to like personally do that,

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but it was, there's probably a lot of footage there or just start sleeping in boxers, Linus.

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That's the other solution. Yeah, it's not comfortable, man.

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Oh my God. And we even make like the most comfortable boxers.

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Don't take your pants off, I swear to God. This just turned into a merch plug.

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Nice Juno move right there.