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Heck, yeah, buddy.

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Well, fine then.

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Hey, guys.

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Oh, no. I saw the title of our ShortCircuit for the B570.

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Yeah. Uh-oh.

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It's consistent with pretty much all of the other editorials out there.

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Okay. Self-employed in Canada?

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I haven't watched anything. Yeah.

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Did you see our results at all or no? Nope. Oh, wow.

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Okay. Is it not good? It's not as good as it probably needs to be.

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Bomber. It's like 12 to 15% off of 580.

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The consensus is save the extra 30 bucks and get a 580.

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Basically. Okay. So just like the first generation arc.

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Yeah. Pretty much. Don't bother with the lower one.

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But maybe this one will be cheap because Intel and their partners are going to need like a kicker scale.

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No, it's only like 20 bucks less. No, but in time. Oh, but in time.

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Yeah. So when there's an aggressive promo, buy Intel Core i5 CPU, get ArcGPU for $100 off or whatever.

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This will be the one that they're going to want to like kick. Shovel out the door.

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The other take was 580 is really hard to get right now.

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So if you wait, get this. Yeah.

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Okay. But in terms of like price to performance compared to AMD and NVIDIA, is it okay?

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Oh, yeah. It's still pretty good. Oh, it's still solid.

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Yeah. Okay. Well, that's great.

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It's just not the value.

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Okay. Are we pre-stream right now? Yes.

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Okay. Cool. Okay.

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You got chat?

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Okay. Oh, right. Right.

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Right. I'm looking for chat. Sorry.

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Sorry. Sorry. Sorry.

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Sorry. I was just reading the tech news, watching the tech news, checking out our ShortCircuit

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on the B570, which I haven't had a chance to watch yet.

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I know the camera's around or anything. Yeah.

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Yeah. Oh, man.

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Yeah. Oh.

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Poor AMD fanboys. No AMD's frame gen is not as good as NVIDIA's.

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Oh, I feel bad for them. And it's like, I want it to be too.

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I would love that.

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That would be cool.

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Okay. It's not. Cool.

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Hey. Thanks. I appreciate you.

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I'll talk about it a lot more on WAN Show, because that's more the forum for it.

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But yeah, it was a lot of fun.

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And yeah, no, I want to focus on battle mage for this stream.

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But yeah, it was an absolute blast.

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Do we have a... Oh, this could work.

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We have a probation area for you there.

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Anyway, I've seen somewhere to put my laptop that isn't in the way of my mouse hand.

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Okay. Control plus.

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Ah, okay.

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Cool. So if I'm in this spot, Andy, does that work pretty well for you?

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Can I angle this bench a little? It gets the power cable not on my escape key.

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So picky. Yeah, I know. I am unreasonable at best.

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Yeah, at best. Malicious at worst.

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Terrible. Okay. Are we doing this thing?

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Let's do it. Have I reviewed the intro for this? Yeah.

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Oh. You were there for that. Cool.

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Do we have a box? Do we have a battle mage box?

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Yes. Nice. What a guy.

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Look out. So ready. So ready, this guy.

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I'm actually kind of feeling the vibe. You need to be out here to start out.

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Absolutely. And then maybe we could take some of our intrepid helpers and they could be like sitting at

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that station pretending to be getting the next one ready or something like that.

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Pretending. Pretending. Pretending to get it ready.

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Acting? Acting!

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Acting! And it might not be in the intro, intro.

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I'm thinking like maybe after the sponsor read when I'm doing the like, okay.

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Here's how it's going to work. We've got two systems with the thing and we've got a whole freaking plan this time.

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It's going to be flip and awesome. We've got a whole setup. We've got mural.

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mural why am I offline oh what this no this is quick to refresh oh oh I can do

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that you can do that I believe you there you go I don't know what to tell you all right cool okay cool got the HDMI matrix we are entering the matrix or at

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least our video signals are right where am I supposed to be

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yeah you know what Jordan I am right where I want to be right now well that's

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good this is gonna be awesome I believe I have faith I am gonna start I'm just

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looking at the framing over here let's go let's frame a little tighter I'll bring

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this up yeah cool and let's go to my other side yeah yeah yeah yeah that seems

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pretty good for like kind of opening opening shot if that works oh no I don't

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need that yet I need that over there oh wait over here you're starting the

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stream as well oh starting the stream you say yes yeah we do need something over

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there for you thank you professor Bessar one sec

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yeah I see how many honoraries Sherrod put on his CES badge oh yeah Dr. Professor

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mister he didn't even win that somebody else had like 15 30 of them it was so

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good it was just doctor doctor doctor professor PhD Gallifrey and says

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who the f is professor Bessar you got that from Nick really did you get that

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from Nick really the one and only the one and only how dare you how dare you I

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don't care if you're a paying customer on Floatplane how dare you I'll put that

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one there latter can go over there oh oh oh brilliant oh thanks George he was

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solving problems while I wasn't even paying attention to what we're supposed

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to be doing what a guy pretty normal that's why I call him Jordan enablement

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instead of Jordan block little wordier Jordan facilitator is that better all

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right we'll go with that yeah enablement kind of has a negative connotation

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Yvonne's my enabler you're more of a facilitator okay so let's go ahead and

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let's go ahead and do this thing are we doing this thing right let's do this

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thing oh wow prompter speed very fast yeah okay

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it's time I've got my robe I've got my wizard hat that's right folks it's

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battle mage day Intel's battle mage b570 GPU is out today making arc even more

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affordable even if the general consensus is that you should probably just pay the

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the jury's kind of still out on that one so we're doing something special today

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we're gonna be taking your game requests to see how arc battle mage stacks up

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against the competition outside of our normal gaming test suite now if you just

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want the straight-up goods on the b570 the new more value-oriented cards

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including some preliminary Labs graphs you can check out the unboxing that came

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how the b580 handles a variety of titles versus the competition variety what

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exactly does variety mean we wrote this you have a thing that I I forgot about

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that all right we've got more than 400 games pre-load downloaded and over 50

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terabytes of hardware space here already filled up from Kyoksia and

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Sabrin thanks to those guys and we got a whole bunch of helpers around the room here ready to go and downloading everything that we forgot to download

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already guys we are gonna blitz through as many games as possible we're gonna do

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whichever we've got Justin over there so these guys are gonna be keeping things

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running as smoothly as possible in the background our goal is to get through

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don't fall I got to find some wood don't go all right 50 games all right with

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absolutely free all right so here's how this is gonna work we've got two systems

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that are loaded up with battlemage b580 cards with the latest drivers and we've

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got two systems with RTX 4060s one of each on each table here so Intel arc

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RTX 4060 until arc RTX 4060 if you guys have got a game that you want to see

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running on battlemage you're gonna want to send a merch message the whole

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production today over to producer Dan and let us know what you guys want to see

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the way merch messages work is instead of just throwing money at your screen and

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hoping for something in return you go to lttstore.com and in the cart there's a

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box you leave a merch message it goes to Dan who will reply to it who will pop it

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up on the bottom of the screen or who will curate it for Justin who is gonna

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be coordinating loading up our systems with as many games as possible now we

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are gonna have to limit things a little bit it's gonna be steam games that are

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available through our sponsor for the stream green man gaming though there

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will be a couple of exceptions to that rule a little bit later there are some

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other restrictions too arc doesn't support VR and frankly speaking this was

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complicated enough without having to deal with VR headsets okay okay also and

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we're not gonna be doing any adult games so the most you're gonna get if you

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suggest one of those is a gentle scolding from Dan all right Jordan you're

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up all right let's get started we got the cyberpunk 2077 you have a line I do

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all right yeah we've got some of the most common requests ready to go let's get

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started with cyberpunk and then we'll move on to the ones you guys suggest for

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alright fantastic so do I get the arc system or are you on the arc system you're

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on arc I'm on NVIDIA okay I get can I lose the hat I guess feels like a bit

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much okay cool oh can I have my laptop so that I can monitor chat and stuff

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awesome thanks so much wow we've got like a whole production team you have

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battery for your laptop now okay I have a confession to make yep I obviously

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hosted our review but the Labs team did all of the testing on arc yep I have

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never gamed on battle mage yet me neither okay but you still aren't going

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to you're still playing on why don't we start by having a look at our settings

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real sure so we're running whoa we're running ray traced lighting on ultra

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1080 as high as we can kind of thing really okay that's a fascinating approach

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and you're running all the same stuff I have same settings as you okay and are

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we in the same spot looks like wow the lighting really does look great in this

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game when you turn all the stuff oh oh oh wow oh my brain going on these are

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really flipping close wow yeah no way now something that we went out of our way

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to do is instead of configuring these systems with the latest CPU in order to

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alleviate CPU bottlenecks and show the cards in there when they're able to

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fully stretch their legs because battle mage has been criticized recently

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hardware canucks did some really excellent work and hardware unboxed has

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followed up on it for not performing well on older hardware we went out of our

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way to choose a platform that we felt was pretty representative of what people

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who should be considering a battle mage would actually be running at home so

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we're looking at a 12th gen core i5 I think we're running 16 gigs of system

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memory is that correct 32 gigs of system memory and then we obviously have big

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coolers on our CPUs and everything to ensure that if we're not thermal

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throttling or anything like that we also just didn't want to give battle mage an

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unfair advantage if one of NVIDIA's key advantages is that they have better

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optimized drivers that are lighter on your CPU for instance okay so should we

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is there anywhere that we could kind of go to that has a little bit more like

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you know crazy ray tracing are we in exactly the same spot where you drive

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into I'm following the arrows oh I'm going the wrong way wow I was gonna say

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gamer move but then I got stuck no not so much I broke my car oh lordy Jordan

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there we go we're better okay where where even are you I have no idea I'm lost

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now okay cool well either way what are we looking at here for 10 we're not gonna

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look at temperatures too much guys and the reason for that is that these are

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not comparably built cards obviously if one of them was thermal throttling in

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some way that would be a factor that we'd have to consider but both of them

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are comfortably within their operating range with Jordan's at around 68 68 okay

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67 that's not gonna do it fine that's fine that's fine there we go Jordan at

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just under 70 degrees and me at about 60 degrees CPUs are both working equally

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hard actually this is interesting Jordan my CPU is running a little bit

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hotter really who built up these benches probationary employee number

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whatever would you say no no you don't have to answer on camera or anything but

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would you say that you installed them in the exact same way ish there are too

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many variables for us to directly compare these like on a lab's graph or

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anything like that but what I will say is that being 4 to 5 degrees off you're

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running a little faster on your CPU too actually is yeah it is possible although

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maybe I slated to this game it is possible that my CPU even though it's not

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overwhelmed and obviously my card is ending up performing just fine it's

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possible my CPU is working a little harder here right now 53 versus 33%

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hmm right so maybe even with the you know it's still smooth for your GPU but

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it's doing a little more utilization of that CPU it looks like that might be the

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case that's a pattern that I want to keep an eye out for in the future now

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should we see if you don't care about ray traced lighting should we turn that off

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because honestly I wouldn't play this game at 35 FPS on either of these cards I

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would want to turn things down a little bit so why don't we go ray tracing in

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general there sure okay so let's go ray tracing off sure let's give it a shot

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okay this is more like how I would want to play this game with averages in the

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80s and lows that are more like in the 60s this is gonna give you a really nice

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smooth playable experience performing a little bit there I am crushing you yeah

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dude we're even in pretty much the I think you're like right behind the

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right now we are in almost the exact same spot right now I think no not but

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we're in a similar enough area that I'm looking at this going yeah when you I'm

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like 15 20 first blow you so there's two ways of looking at this you could look

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at this as wow NVIDIA's RTX performance really is quite a lot stronger than

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yeah but the other way of looking at it is in a game like this on a card of this

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class where realistically you are not getting a 60 FPS gaming experience with

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ray tracing on unless you enable frame gen all right we would have moved on to

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game all right yeah sure all right yeah right right got my comments got my

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comments which I'm not even monitoring guys all right we got destiny to here

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so for whatever reason the frame view doesn't like this so we have just our

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little tiny frame counter but okay sure oh is that just the steam overlay yeah

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okay the game game one oh sure sure sure sure sure sure you should be in the

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same spot here I never use the steam overlay so I never know what it is

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supposed to look like so anytime I see it I'm like it looks very similar to this one okay this is 170 ish wow these seem very similar but almost to the point

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where I feel like we're missing out on some graphical fidelity here yeah I don't

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think well do you need this game to run at 150 to 200 FPS no you personally can

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we stay outside actually sure yeah I'd rather stay outside okay here let's go

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to the door let's both come out of the door at the same time and just walk in a straight line all right okay cool you guys you guys enjoying this so far

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because I'm actually kind of I gotta say mm-hmm after doing this the first time

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with arc alchemist yeah this is already exceeding my sort of what would have been

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my expectations then and I I know we've shouted out until numerous times

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actually over the last couple of years for the work that their software team

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and you can't build great software on a crappy hardware platform obviously you

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could try you can do your best with it but like so obviously the hardware guys

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are they're putting in their work right but we've given props to their software

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team for the improvements that they have made because not just was the

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performance subpar when they launched alchemist yeah but the experience was

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subpar whereas I'm looking at this and I'm going this renders no worse for being

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on arc than that does for being on you wouldn't know you just jump in the game

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you wouldn't know no I and in fact I bet we could switch system right now and I

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would not notice a material difference in a side-by-side do you notice a

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material difference Jordan going from this system to that not at all but part

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of that is that we're we're well over 150 FPS both of us okay let's do the door

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test let's do the door test okay so just walking okay so we're right at the edge

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of the door yep okay here we go we just walk point your crosshair right at the

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at the tree trunk there all right okay okay so we just walk and let's watch the

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FPS three two one go 170 it is ever ever so slightly hair better I was gonna

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say I think yours is ever so slightly ahead boy are they ever close I want to

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see a little oh I think your monitor is better oh we don't have our CPU monitor

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because not in this one okay shoot we'll have lots of games to check that yeah

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yeah we're gonna keep an eye on that on an ongoing basis you know what I want to

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do is I want to change our settings a little bit alright I would tune these

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down a little bit and target more like a hundred FPS so could we do 1440p in

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this game try I think it's worth a shot oh it's it this is a monitor is the

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matrix is set to 10 you sort of lock it to that got it we are focused on 1080p

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gaming because realistically b480 b480 b580 and and the 4060 are 1080p high 1440p

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medium cards when it comes to like modern triple-a games why don't we knock this

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down from highest to high as our graphics quality no I wanted to turn it up oh

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you want to go up yeah cuz we're like 200 FPS so I mean one way or another I

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think the bottom line here if we can't change our resolution which is a little

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unfortunate oh can we can we change our render scale does it allow you to scale

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it up I don't know render resolution boom got him okay so go to like 150 that

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should be a 1440p ish 150 yep okay and fun fact by the way NVIDIA watch this

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with ten series or nine series I think it was with nine series rendering at a

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higher resolution even though you're outputting at your original it does actually yield a slight increase in in visual fidelity all right yes I'm right

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around a hundred okay so we're in the water here so we go to around 1440p I'm

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beating you imagine imagine a world Jordan if you will in a world having more

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VRAM yes matters wow can you imagine it yes well you don't have to it's good

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it's a good skill you have but you really don't have to do that because it's right here all right so we were neck and neck at 1080p and realistically we still

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are but it looks like arc gets the slight edge because I don't think I've seen a

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dip below a hundred and I've seen you dip below a hundred several hundred

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times huh look at that would you oh interesting oh I've got another 80 there

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for a second chewy's in the chat he says interestingly the game looks a lot

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better on the stream now thanks to the super resolution really yeah

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interesting garbage in garbage out I guess so ungarbage in ungarbage out it

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looks like they've cleared our next system we ready for next game let's go all right let's move over I don't actually know oh Marvel rivals let's do it I

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haven't played I have never played this game should we pick the same hero all

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right I feel like we should pick the same here I've got Dr. Strange over here all right let's go with Dr. Strange confirm I assume this is a controller

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game maybe oh I assume my control hey look at that okay keyboard most works as

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well though is v-sync on I think my v-sync might be on let's double check

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our video settings but oh I've got FSR on and stuff too okay let's let's go

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through okay so off scaling a hundred mm-hmm mm-hmm limit FPS off v-sync my

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v-sync off okay good and then I'm set to high yep okay apply okay good it's good

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that we validate these things because you never know okay so let's let's walk

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through the screen portal here all right I'm going for it so I'm at around good

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Lord are these ever close in performance this is surprising my lows are dipping

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lower than yours though even though our averages are very very similar are we

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going for CPU over there oh good question I'm hovering in the 30 to 35%

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range and I'm sitting at about 50 degrees 46 degrees 34% okay percent

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fly or anything but you are very clearly outperforming me in this game even if

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it isn't a difference that you'd be likely to notice in daily use yeah anytime

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we're looking at 10% better performance it's one of those things I remember

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having these arguments like years and years ago and I say argument but really

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it was more I never understood why it was an argument because people would go

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on the forum or whatever on NCIX forum because that's where I did a lot of my

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tech discussion back in the day and they'd be like I don't care the difference

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between 4 FPS here or there I like Intel better yeah I would look at that and I

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would go right but 4 FPS in this case where one of them is running at 40 FPS

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and one of them is running at 36 that's a bigger difference than like a hundred

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and some 4 FPS is 10% yeah in what other area of your life would you say yes

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please daddy give me 10% less for the same amount of money yeah and and it was

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something that I that I just never really understood so even though I fully

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grasp the the perspective that realistically you could buy either

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of these things and have a perfectly adequate acceptable gaming experience

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like this is this is running great if I was a kid and I was running at 70 FPS in

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my one percent lows like 90 averages I would have been happier than a pig in

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slop right this price but if what I care about is making wise purchasing

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decisions and getting the most for my money if all I play is Marvel rivals

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I'm buying the NVIDIA card why is that because it's a little bit faster and why

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shouldn't I get more for my money but remember I just say more money for this

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oh oh that's right a lot more you're not getting more for your money sorry let me

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correct that previous statement because I did not address the money part of it all other things being equal I would take the NVIDIA card that performs a

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little bit better however the conversation around pricing for Arc B580 has

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gotten a little bit complicated because as much as the MSRP might be $250

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editors know go ahead and throw some confetti not rely rely I know I'm just

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kidding as much as the plot as much as it might be $250 which is a really

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exciting price point for this kind of performance in practice the supply is so

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constricted right now that nobody is actually seeing them for that price

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maybe 570 will help that well I really I really hope so but it's one of those

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things where I don't know that I'm convinced that the problem is that they

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can't get a high enough yield of 580 I think the problem is more that if I was

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an Intel business monster yeah would I have looked at Arc Alchemist and gone

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let's produce a ton of the second-gen right at launch probably not probably not

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and I don't even blame them for that that makes sense no that's just smart

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business call really that's just being not a giant idiot yeah right so let's

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move over to our to our other systems well I kind of finished this thought so

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it's pretty it's pretty clear that a big part of the supply constraint is just

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down to Arc Alchemist being kind of a dud and not having enough confidence to

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make a whack of these things right out of the gate wow you have a lot better

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framing already here yeah get rekt so we're on crisis remastered here oh sick

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of course we are I've got a turtle though I've got a turtle that's one of

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the framers so bad is this it don't make me find a turtle oh damn turtle all

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right you just got turdled son is this was this something that was suggested

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or are we still on our pre canned ones we're still on our pre-canned ones okay

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all right now when are we switching over from the ones that we had pre-prepped

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whenever these boys want to do that got it okay Dan do you have any merge

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messages that are not game requests are they just all game requests don't have

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what what is it not working I think it's working it should be working I did

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test it oh we did get one apparently oh did people did I do it so early in the

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stream that people didn't hear it I don't know oh oh that makes sense because

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almost nobody would be watching a stream right at the beginning okay so merge

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messages if you're new to the channel are the way to interact with our streams

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all you got to do is head over to LTT Store the reason that we do it through

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the store is that as much as we know that people love just throwing money at

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their screens we feel like if you throw money at your screen you should get some high quality merchandise in return so head over to the store head to the cart

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whenever we're live you'll see a box that allows you to send a merge message to

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producer Dan okay there you go who will pop it up on the screen reply to it

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himself or curate it for our team to take your requests for games that we're

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playing you can also send in discussion questions and stuff like that but our

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focus today is gaming on battle mage versus rtx 4060 and testing as many

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games as we possibly can which on that note means I should probably get my

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butt back over here and play some crisis remastered

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more like crush some crisis remastered because dude

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arc is destroying me here and what's funny about this to me

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is one of the big bug bears of alchemist first-gen arc

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was older games yeah newer games it was quite competitive

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but as soon as you got back to direct x9 things were not looking so good

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now crisis remastered is that I forget is crisis dx9 or 10 I'm not sure what

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version this is bar cry was dx9 it okay I bet it's in the settings

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actually we should love why don't we double check our settings what are we what are we even running out here uh buh buh buh buh oh shoot audio video

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settings there we go graphics so 1080p that's what we're that's what we're

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focused on v sync off okay everything high there's not a lot of settings in

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your other real advanced um Dan yeah can you do me a quick favor and

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check if crisis remastered is dx9 or 10 I want to

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say 10 I want to say 10 I wouldn't bet against you

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but I'm not certain

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oh c for crouch sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry I don't know I'm with you

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I'm old school I'm old school yeah so is this game though what's going on

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yeah exactly right okay so we at the part where we thought oh dude you're

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way past me you were messing around over there Jordan over here actually

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gaming you got serious work to do over here now

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one thing I am noticing is way too dark for me to see where I'm going check this

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out um there we go yeah pause pause for a second check this out okay so when I when I fought the first guy

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yeah damn it Jordan I'm getting shot this is the problem

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this is the problem when your whole team their job is to test gaming

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but if they were at home what they would be doing is gaming anyway

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and uh I'm guilty of it more than almost anyone else

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the way these guys have to drag me away from the test systems on set sometimes

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hilarious sometimes look buddy look okay so check this out

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look how big the disparity is between my averages

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oh yours too sometimes yeah I wonder if that's just

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older not as great optimized game because I didn't see any of those dips down

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to like 60 FPS on yours but there's one right now dropping

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all the way down to be clear 1% lows around the 60

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45 FPS range you know about 16 milliseconds

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that's not going to feel not smooth it's not going to feel like a hitch

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or anything no it's still great but you do want to see when you're

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averaging 120 150 FPS you would want to see your lows more like 80 90

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for really smooth frame delivery I believe is

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dx 10 dx 10 okay the console ones whose cry engine three which I think would

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support higher levels but it's very strange okay

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sick I'm averaging 100 in this it's crazy yeah no I'm

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this is a this is a clear win for arc battle age

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which then regardless of pricing means I would go for the b580

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yeah are we keeping a tally oh what a guy okay yes

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what tally of winners yes no

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what is he telling me what a guy we've done we've done four yeah we've done four

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cyberpunk was about a tie I think that's fair to say

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I mean when when we turned off ray tracing it was a clear win for arc but

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destiny was pretty close to I think let's call it two ties

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for cyber truck cyber truck cyber truck dude have you seen the

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couple local ones yes yeah I parked next to one the other day

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and it's just hideous anyway um okay so those two were ties

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I think Marvel arrivals was a pretty clear win for NVIDIA I think so

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and then crisis three remat or crisis remastered

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looks like a pretty clear win for arc definitely yeah okay

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thanks Dan do you guys have the other games I put on the list

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I don't know are we ready for another one yeah let's move on to our next one let's go hold on I need to fight this guy oh no he's my ally all right

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cool yeah he could you get more laptops right

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if only you had those in stock somewhere I haven't even looked at chat yet I

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have no idea if you guys are enjoying this google signed me out so

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great I can't even look at the youtube dashboard

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it's all for time Jordan go all right let's see we got apex legends here

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I got the confetti working as well we have confetti what what

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yeah you wanted confetti go for it I want confetti oh hell yeah

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give me confetti oh that's a little yeah you can I think

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I think we can working is a strong term there Dan it's good enough

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that felt like you jiggling a mess around uh no it was uh no

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all right let's somebody's busy over here

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let's just get to the same spot thank you thank you

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ooh apex legends like dead even what's going on here

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how are these so close the frame is not changing

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oh there we go a little bit okay wow that is they are dead even

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impressively stable are we gonna sink somehow you won't hear me say this

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often but good job EA yeah okay settings for fine

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like that is that is what you want wow in a competitive title

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really consistent solid smooth frame delivery

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and it really is solid wow let's go get some guns I should have a gun yeah

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that would probably be this easier okay what what are you picking up

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let's go with this guy the longbow dmr I don't play this game

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I don't play this game either so I don't grab all the ammo I didn't know how to

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find it oh my goodness there's so many was it on the left or the right on the left more next next rock I think oh my goodness

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you're following me over there to get the there we go

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all right sick so are these 144 hertz monitors do you have v-sync on

429
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:08,000
uh we don't have v-sync on now I checked already I will double check

430
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:12,160
just to make sure my v-sync is disabled nope it looks like we just happened to

431
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:17,280
be here oh my god what seriously

432
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:21,680
okay there's there's no way it can be that steady that's not possible

433
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:25,680
you guys just saw me check if v-sync was on you just saw it

434
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:29,280
the lows are changing constantly but the actually I feel you would want to

435
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:32,320
144 turn turn v-sync on because it should be locked to

436
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:36,000
60 otherwise yeah this isn't a thing

437
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:40,320
okay no way triple buffered okay there v-sync on

438
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:46,000
no I have to apply oh my god oh the display is running at 60 hertz

439
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:51,840
okay so no it is not v-sync it just happens to be running at

440
00:38:51,840 --> 00:39:01,360
exactly 144 hertz or 143 that's bonkers no kidding

441
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:07,440
all right what about CPU usage I can't read it under oh the game force is a

442
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:11,520
cap oh okay game's capped well that's fine

443
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:14,960
because our our 1% lows are what we want to look at for a competitive title

444
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:18,960
anyway and honestly you can uh you can unlock it

445
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:22,960
with a console command if you want to do that oh yeah those plebs

446
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:26,560
I think I got the edge on you Jordan yeah 120 to 130

447
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:30,320
whereas you look like you're in more like the 115 to 120 range

448
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:34,640
to be clear yeah unless you're some kind of god-level gamer

449
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:39,520
you're actually better on CPU too hey shroud

450
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:43,120
you're you're you're not probably going to be able to feel the difference between

451
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:46,720
dipping down to 110 and dipping down to 120 it's it's it's that's not

452
00:39:46,720 --> 00:39:50,400
realistic that's not like a human level of perception

453
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:53,840
do you want to try and unlock the frame rate or we can try and unlock it yeah if

454
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:57,440
it's if it's a simple if it's a simple console command

455
00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:01,920
if I don't have to do some rigmarole to unlock the console

456
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:05,920
like is it is it in gameplay the whole idea today is we want to get through a

457
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:13,360
ton of stuff so it's got to be a launch option a launch up no no launch options the the the game launching is handled by our

458
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:16,720
intrepid team of of supporting players here

459
00:40:16,720 --> 00:40:21,440
I'm going to analyze and I'm stuck in a hole okay what was your CPU usage though

460
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:25,760
round 32 I'm around high 20s low 30s

461
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:29,680
huh okay I think you're a little better

462
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:33,840
I see low to mid 20s every once in a while

463
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:38,720
actually interesting I'm just kind of I'm just kind of jumping around and

464
00:40:38,720 --> 00:40:43,600
moving around right now too yeah and it's worth noting that in a

465
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:46,880
competitive match you might see a little bit of a difference

466
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:50,000
the problem is that it's darn near impossible

467
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:54,080
for us to evaluate these against each other

468
00:40:54,080 --> 00:41:01,440
in a competitive match in a way that is even remotely repeatable

469
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:04,800
temperature was about like 47 you're actually running a little hotter

470
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:09,360
and your CPU does seem to be cooking a little harder is this maximum graphics

471
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:13,040
can you bump it up interesting yeah we can we could bump up the

472
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:17,280
graphics maybe um

473
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:24,720
adaptive resolution target

474
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:29,360
oh yeah I don't think that's doing anything anyway because we're at like

475
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:33,200
144 whatever uh texture streaming I mean everything's

476
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:40,560
cranked yeah so I don't think I don't think there's really anything we could do we could no this one doesn't have a higher

477
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:46,160
rendering mode that's fine it is what it is I think

478
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:53,680
I'm willing to call this one a win based on what I've seen Mark yep yep I think this is a win for Linus

479
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:56,800
narrow win and a win for gamers win for gamers

480
00:41:56,880 --> 00:42:00,800
win for Canada all right uh Dan do you have any

481
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:06,720
merch messages to hit us with or do you have any really fun games that we can tease that are going to be coming up uh from people's suggestions we're trying

482
00:42:06,720 --> 00:42:10,400
to get wu kong and monster hunter world iceborn

483
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:15,600
ooh they wanted one monster hunter wilds and I got excited but it's unreleased

484
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:20,400
all right that sounds great yeah it's a little hard to play unreleased stuff

485
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:26,640
I know guys try to gain close no are you pretty close over there Reese

486
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:31,600
okay we're close all right Dan do you want to hit me with a merge message then

487
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:34,880
really everyone's just sending in game suggestions make something up

488
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:38,400
I only got two game suggestions all right you can send in uh you can send in

489
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:44,080
regular merge messages as well all right here we go oh I got distracted

490
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:48,320
you know what I bet people are doing free foam

491
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:52,240
I bet people are saving their merge messages for wancho tomorrow

492
00:42:52,240 --> 00:42:57,440
I would I would you know what's launching that's going to be fun

493
00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:02,560
oh dear uh wu kong wasn't on uh green man gaming unfortunately

494
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:06,720
uh we should do wu kong anyway okay