about it. Some people were incorrect spending. We should spend it on other
things. They were spending like a tenth of the total like it was a lot.
Oh, I'm getting a snack. Sorry
my bad just for just for the full plane audience. This will be my screen for the
for the day. I have this like paddle on the left where I'm going to stay tuned
I can't hear it though. So
if you guys can keep me informed on important things that happen in the audio
Oh I'm assuming from the clapping that is the front porch then and they got all the
people out now. I don't I don't know
jubilee
Okay, I'm going to turn that off. Oh, some of the terminology they use is amazing. Not all of them, but literally
just now. Okay, so front porch is just now. Okay. Okay. One person. Should we do
this thing? Yeah, let's hit it. What was your snack of choice today? I went for
Miss Vicki's sea salt and malt vinegar. I feel like it's a rip off that those
multi packs don't have jalapeno in them. I think that's ridiculous. I
generally think Costco does a very good job, but I do have one conspiracy theory
about Costco. I believe that variety packs at Costco contain all the words
that two thirds to three quarters of what you want and the rest something
nobody wants. Both flats of bubbly have two flavors that I like and one that's
horrible. It's like, oh, I get mango and raspberry, but also really grapefruit and
then the other ones like lime and blackberry and like really cherry. Does
anybody like Chick-a-Cherry Cola? Maybe they do. Maybe they do. Maybe I'm maybe
I got it wrong. Maybe I got it all wrong, but it just feels like it feels like
there's always one that sucks. All right, there's some people out there that
like cherry bubbly. Two crew members out. Let's go.
That's pretty cool. Yearly cadence begins. Artemis three next year. Artemis four
year after that, as long as you know, nothing crazy happens in the world,
Linus. I'm not ready to assume anything. As long as nothing crazy happens.
Things that are scheduled no longer are scheduled to me. Yeah.
Do you want me to hit it or are you hitting it? Go ahead, Dan, hit it.
Look, are you ready? Yeah.
Welcome to the WAN Show. We got a great show lined up for you guys today. It is
week two of the positive WAN Show. I had more fun last week than I probably have
in over a year doing WAN Show. Maybe we just keep it this way. I was skimming
through the dock today and I was just like, yeah. Yeah.
Awesome. I want to talk about all these. We got a lot to talk about. One of the
big ones is that I have spent about the last week with my MacBook Neo
I am ready to talk about some of my experiences with it, both good and also
not as good. And in other news that I got right before the show started, you bought
one. Technically, not for me, but yes. I freaking called it. So I can't believe
how hard I called that. Yeah. I don't know. Usually you're the one who's predicting
things out here like freaking Nostradamus and now I get to do it. Yep. It's a
small win. Yep. But it's a win nonetheless. Speaking of wins nonetheless, the French
government is ushering in La Nadelineux, which I assume is how they would say it,
the year of Linux. We'll be talking about that. What else we got today? I mean,
there's more Linux news on top of that. Dear John Deere settles US right to repair
lawsuit agreeing to a hundred million dollar fund for farmers and other things
that I think is arguably like more important, but we'll talk about that
soon. Also steam. Just this is actually so exciting to me. There's going to be a
I can't find the topic, but there's going to be a frame rate estimator for games
when you're looking at them in the store. So you can tell how well it might
perform on your machine, which is so sick and they would have the data. They would
have the data. That's awesome. And I would have the intro.
The show is brought to you today by D brand. Oh, dude. Squarespace and proton
alongside our rep partner D brand and our chair partner and laptop partner,
which is razor and also razor. Do we need to have a policy that you're only allowed
to sponsor the WAN Show like once at a time? You know what? No. No, I don't think
we do. Let's jump right into the headline topic, which this week has just got
to be, I mean, it's MacBook Neo mania out there. And now that I've switched over
to it, dude, I got to say it's, it's the real deal. Yeah, it's funny because the
one that I purchased, which again, wasn't for me, but the one that I purchased
is the same color. Yeah. Okay. So you're one. You like the, you like the, the,
the yellowish, yellowish fun. There's so many things these days that are just
either black or white. Yep. And it's like, okay. So it's fun to just have
something else. I don't want to bore you guys. And I know that, you know, the LTT
audience tends to swing a little bit less. Hey, I'm so excited about Apple.
Please tell me more about Apple. So why don't I talk about some of the challenges
that I've had with it? It turns out that while the MacBook Neo has been an
absolutely fantabulous sort of daily driver machine, web browsing, word
processing, chat, you know, all the things that I mostly spend my days doing
have been, I don't know how to describe it other than enjoyable. It's just such
a nice machine to use. Every aspect of it that you interface with directly is
so good. But there have been a few challenges that have reared their head
over the last little bit. And the one that's probably been the most disruptive
to me is the limitations on the IO. If you're the kind of person that never
connects your laptop to anything, I think I could recommend the Neo without
hesitation. Unless you use software that you, you know, you know, you're going
to need more RAM, you're going to need more performance for. If you're just
someone who uses a browser on your laptop, heck yeah, if you dock, I've had
some issues. Really? Interesting. We got a, one of those like dual USB-C port out
into a big breakout box that just runs along the side. I think there's one
from Anchor, Ugreen, a few different brands. Yeah. And it's been totally fine.
But it's not a dock fully. Kind of is there's HDMI out and stuff. In fairness
to Apple, the display that I'm connected to, not the most compatible. It's
that Dell 6K one that we did a video on a little while ago and there's two
problems. So first of all, it doesn't run at 6K obviously because that there's
no way that this would be able to drive it. It runs at 4K, which would be fine
except that macOS is native handling of non 16 by 9 and non the same aspect
ratio as their displays displays is frankly unacceptable. There's already
the weirdness with how Mac handles your like where you're setting your
resolution rather sets your DPI like it sets your scaling is how we would
sort of think of it on Windows and that can already be a little bit
confusing. But on top of that, when you go through the list, even when you
say expose all resolutions or show me every resolution or something like
that, when I'm connected to that Dell, even when I close my lid, which from
the last time I did a MacBook challenge, if I recall correctly is the only way
to fully disable this display. You can't just like turn it off in the display
manager. And if I'm wrong about that, guys, hit me up in the chat. But even
if you close the lid and you're just only using your ultra wide display, I
don't get a single ultra wide resolution. There is a tool that I downloaded.
It's called better. I think it's called better display. Yeah, better display.
But frankly, after spending about three minutes on it, I didn't figure it out
immediately and it is seems pretty pretty obtuse. So the stretching for my
display has been pretty freaking annoying, not nearly as annoying as the
occasional complete disconnects. Oh, weird. It'll just disconnect, go back to
this for a second and then fire the display back up. I haven't messed with
external displays. I haven't ran into any of that. Another big one is that I'm
getting occasional Wi-Fi issues that I don't know if it's related to Apple's
Wi-Fi chip or if it's related to our ubiquity access points or what it is.
But I'm going to fire this over to Dan just so I can show you guys. But
occasionally, I will just run into a situation where I can't stream video.
Yeah, I was trying to review a video today on frame.io and I just couldn't
and I was like, okay, that's really annoying. But maybe it's frame.io. I
have seen it before. I've seen it on YouTube as well. But I was like, okay,
maybe it's maybe it's just frame.io being a derp. And so I fired up YouTube
and I had exactly the same issue. I literally could not watch a YouTube
video. I'm not going to, I'm not going to make you guys watch the whole clip here. But Dan, did you, did you get that? Let me know when you get a chance
and for me, for me, just while he's figuring that out, there was some
stuff that was just like learning curve things, right? Because I have no real experience with macOS. So trying to figure out how to like set it up properly
and stuff was just a little weird. But it wasn't that bad. It's just kind of
different. And you know, coming off of being on the Linux challenge for two
months or whatever, like learning new things about an operating system is kind
of fresh right now. So not a big deal. You might say you're more used to
thinking different. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The thing that really got me, though,
was installing stuff. It's very strange. If it's not in the app store, the
drag and drop thing, it's like, oh, drag and drop. Give us one second. It's like,
oh, oh, drag and drop, but you drag and drop and nothing happens. You have to
like drag and hold and then like put it in an open spot in the folder and then
it sort of happens. It's like, what? I don't even think you have to do that.
I think it's I think it's already doing it. And then you're just fidgeting
around more and it's doing it in the background. And then you're like, oh,
it's done. I was also a lot of like ghost loading where that's what I want to
call it is where like you'd go to launch something. Nothing happens. Your
mouse doesn't go beach ball. Just nothing happens. Nothing comes out. And then you wait and then you wait. Oh, man. And then you wait a while and then it
just launches. People are saying wrong and stuff like, yeah, probably. I have no
idea what I'm doing. It's just those are the things that kind of felt weird so
far. And I mean, to me, it's like, I get it that that's the Mac way. You drag
the thing over. Why? Yeah, I already double clicked it. Yeah. That was the
weirdest part for me. It was like, what even is this step? Why? What is the
point? Yeah. Why? Just how about just know I'm willing to bet. This is one of
those things where I understand why other people are used to it. Totally get
it. But hear me out. Would you notice or care if that step just went away and
then nobody ever saw that ever again? Yeah, probably not. Why does it like
mount the installers? Maybe I was doing something weird. Very likely I was
doing something weird because I don't know what the heck is going on. I was just I've been disappointed by how many things I couldn't find in the app
store. That too. Discord. Yeah, wasn't in the app store. Why wasn't discord
in the yeah. Why isn't discord in the app store? And maybe that's on
discord because I went to install something and then realized like, oh,
I'm probably being such a boomer. They have an app store just like Linux as a
package manager. I should just go use that. And then yeah, it just wasn't in
there. It's very odd. I thought that was one of the steps where I was like,
this is for sure a me problem. So I checked that I spelled discord right.
Maybe it's buried for some reason. I scrolled the whole time. No, it's not there. Teams too. What the heck? Didn't look for teams. Yeah. And there's so
many things and like because people will take advantage of of vacuums in
available apps, there's all these things that are kind of similarly named
trying to entice you to download them in the app store. It's like, no, it's
obviously that's not what I want. Obviously, I just want teams and I just
want my discord. Yeah. Other than that, it's actually been wonderful. Like I did
the the body flex thing. I did that as like a demo to show them like, no, it's
actually made really well. Yeah, didn't budge. Let's let me show you how
wonderful the experience I had earlier today was made laptop. Yeah, but you
don't know that this is. Oh, no, no, I rebooted it and the issue went away. Okay.
And it's happened a few times. Got it. I don't think we ran into this. I wonder
if this is a problem with your unit or something. We'll see if other people
in chat have experienced this. We're not going to be able to watch this whole
thing. It's a minute of us watching this YouTube video, not load. Yeah. So there's
definitely been some just wasn't working. It just it was not working. It did. It
did not want any part of any of this. I don't think we can go back down. But yeah,
there you go. Let me just see if there's anything else that's kind of stood
out. The performance is really great until it's not great. Search is incredible.
Oh, spotlight. Oh, oh, you're he's not like now. I don't think I've ever used
spotlight before. It's made me just mad again because I'm like, why is it
window so much better? But spotlight seems awesome. The funniest part of this
is that correct me if I'm wrong. But over the last few years, I feel like the
Mac community has soured on spotlight a little bit and feels it's gotten worse.
Wow. It used to be even better, like God tier. And now it's still like a tier
in my it's way better in my opinion. But from my understanding, Mac users are
a little bit like, come on, Apple, we can do better than this because they know
they can spotlight is like I really, really like spotlight. I find the navigation
of like, you know, your local storage and stuff to be pretty simple. Like none of
it feels like too bad. It was kind of nice coming in with a little bit of
preexisting knowledge, knowing that if I had like my active window, the controls
for it, we're going to be up in like the top bar, whatever you want to call that.
Like knowing that ahead of time was kind of helpful. Learning how to use the, I
think it's called the dock, the bar at the bottom. Learning how to use that in
different ways, like what things mean, like if it's to the right of the vertical
line, it's not actually on your dock, it's just there right now. And okay, I
want to actually pin that to the dock and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
I continue to be annoyed that Apple just kind of gets a free pass for some of
the included software that is basically an ad. Like the fact that Apple TV is
just literally front and center.
That's okay. Apple TV is probably fair. I did think it was kind of neat that games is there
though, and there's like chess preinstalled. There's like some fun stuff.
Like when you want chess, you don't want bejeweled with microtransactions.
See, this is my point is like Microsoft used to come with cool stuff.
They used to get pinball, table, free cell. Yeah.
And now it's just like ad garbage. My job.
And I get the Mac open and I'm suddenly like excited to check out some of the
apps. I'm like, oh, I wonder what the chess app is like. I wonder what some of these other things are like.
Yep. I appreciated that not to already pivot it to Linux, but when I did my switch
to KDE, KDE came with a bunch of preinstalled fun little games.
I was like, oh, that's pretty sweet. They're so tiny like.
Katowice says you should try the Windows power twice equivalent of spotlight.
It's so sad. It's not built in. No, it's infuriating that I'm not it's good news when show week.
I'm not going to be infuriated today, but good call.
Good call. But the number of times that I've read that comment in Floatplane chat is more
than a dozen over a span of at least a couple of years.
At which point it's not on me for not installing it.
It's on Microsoft for not implementing it like if Windows is good by
come on guys, I will likely be inspired to do things like that to mod it to
make it even better, but Windows has to be good by default.
If Linux isn't quite there, I'm much more willing to do stuff.
Well, I didn't pay for it because this is free. I didn't pay for this is a very different.
They cannot be seen as equivalencies in my mind. Even if you're putting the hat on and pirating Windows, I still think it's
it's not the line is different. And if I can spend a little bit of time and get Linux to a great spot and
then just use that, I would rather do that than fight something that
actively seems to hate me. It's extremely different vibes.
Oh, Dan, I have another fun one for you.
I don't think this is really like actionable in any meaningful way.
But I just thought it was so funny that here, let me let me send this over to
you, Dan. Let's do a topic really quick that is related to the MacBook Neo and then
we'll come back to something really funny. You're going to love this.
The Neo has apparently been so popular that Apple is running out of the A18 pro
bend chips that were not quite iPhone 16 pro ready, but work fine for the
less constrained thermal situation in the Neo.
Apple reportedly only plans to make five to six million units with the
leftover supply they had and are now scrum scrambling to get more chips.
I mean, freaking. How does it don't take this the wrong way?
I mean this in the most respectful way because Apple is a modern day master
class in supply chain management and forecasting. How the f**k did Apple think they were only going to sell five to six
million units of these things? I, Joe Schmo, who can't make enough cables to save my life, could have told
them triple it. Like this thing is an absolute game changer and that's probably before
the educational institutions have even validated this thing.
Like dude. There's going to be a lot more.
How can they not? How could they that this is the kind of thing that I just I find so baffling
like you remember back in the days when you were always working on
like some review of some CPU or some GPU and we'd release our video where
we're like, yeah, it's not that good. And then the brand would, they'd call you up or they'd email you and they'd
be like, what do you mean? And we're kind of sitting here going like, you can run the same f**king
benchmarks that we can. What are you talking about? And in a lot of cases, okay, this might explain some of it, which is in a lot
of those cases, they did. It was the technical teams totally understood.
Yeah. And it would end up, they would just end up being like, I don't know.
It got to marketing and then they just said some stuff and like, that's not
what we found. And this is like, this is the opposite of that.
This is like, how could they possibly not have known that they had the
product launch of the decade on their hands in at least in the laptop category?
Seriously, name a laptop from the last 10 years as impactful as this one.
I am not trying to shill. I don't have an investment in it.
I think framework has been very impactful. I think if you'd said M1 MacBook, I would have accepted that massive.
I still think this takes both of those though. I think so too.
Just because of the accessibility. I think both of those are up there for different reasons because to me, the long
term picture is also really important. This is not just today.
This is a $350 laptop on the second hand market two and a half, three years
from now. And the thing is with its build quality, it'll last probably going to be fine.
Like you kind of had it slip a little bit early in the show and it bonked
the table. Yeah, whatever. Part of me went like, and then I was like, actually it's a tank.
Yeah, it's probably not going to care about that at all. And like the fact that there's so little battery in it to achieve the kind of
battery life that I'm getting. It's not class. Well, it is class leading, but it's not.
It's not game changing battery life, especially for a MacBook, but it's
outstanding, especially when you consider the size of that battery. The fact that it's cooling isn't stellar is kind of fun.
Yeah, like Alex's video, just putting the thermal pad over there.
Like that's cool. That makes me want to go mod a laptop.
I, um, I've always kind of wondered, um, like, you know how there's laptop
docs that are supposed to assist with cooling by just blowing another fan
at the bottom? Turns out they don't really do that much, at least for any laptops
that we've ever tried it with. But I've always kind of wondered if there could be a thermal interface
material that's non-goopy sticky enough that you could like, you could add
a bit of surface area to something like, would that be a good product for
just a machined aluminum thing that you sit your MacBook Neo on?
Are we on the same wavelength? Did you get this from someone? Did you hear this from someone?
You haven't heard this from anybody? From who? So I've been pushing this idea that there is a dock that you put your laptop
in that you have to have like almost press it into like a switch to and
then kind of, but flat.
Okay. I was thinking flat, but however it works. Yeah. Um, and then it could like that, you know, where the USB-C's are.
So if it's machined well enough, maybe as you press it in, it could like move a lever ARM that plugs in USB-C or something and it puts it on some
type of cooling surface. And I was thinking it would be really cool if it was like an actual
thermal pad, but they're probably all going to be too goopy.
And when you pull it away, it's going to pull some material off of it. So like you, we need some way.
And then I kind of came down to like, um, what are they called?
Uh, uh, uh, basically a piece of metal with, uh, one of those frick, the
electrical coolers that create heat on like a Peltier.
Peltiers are cool. Probably not the answer.
They're super inefficient. Yeah. Yeah. And you've got to get rid of the heat somehow.
And so you end up with a fan and it ends up, see, I would want a passive
solution for this. And I don't think I would need active cooling.
I think that as long as I could get more. Just don't know how you, and this is ignorance, not impossibility.
I don't know how you transfer that heat super effectively without goop.
Yeah. What, what my ideal, my ideal for something like this, cause like we've,
we've dabbled in improving the cooling of passive Apple devices over many,
many years. I remember water cooling, the original USB-C MacBook back in, what was it?
Like 2013, just a tray of water or something like that. Yeah. Using plasticine or like Play-Doh or something to shield the ports.
Yeah. And then just putting it in a nice bath. Yeah.
Um, it made a big difference. Made a big difference. It was pretty cool.
Um, but ever since then, I've always felt like the best solution would be
something more like a, um, like a hot cold pack, like a freezer pack, like
some kind of like a bladder that, um, that you could, in a perfect world,
you could actually circulate fluid through so you could like water cool it,
but without actually having the water touching it. I think you could.
Yeah, probably. I just, we've never, we've never put the development cycles into making
something like that. Yeah. Cause I, what the market, I have always adored the idea.
Like I was pissed with the switch one that the doc didn't offer any potential
performance improvements. I have always adored the idea that like it works when you're mobile, but then
you can, there's like an incentive to plugging it in that isn't just big
screen now. The incentive is like, this is performance mode.
I always thought that was really cool. Um, and realistically, yeah.
Uh, Avian's, this probably is an example of the type of device that you could
just have a, a laptop stand with a fan on it and would probably get you 98% of
the way there. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But the idea of like a big machined piece of aluminum with fins in it or
something like that, that you like, that you put it on in order to get max
performance and document, that's pretty cool. It might make more sense once we get something with an A19 pro, maybe a year,
a year and a half from now or something like that. Anyway, back to our actual topic here.
According to Tom's guide, Amazon seems to have the best availability of these
things, which matters because if you're ordering direct from Apple, apparently
you're looking at up to four week delays. Wild.
I got, I got mine from, oh man, this is kind of unfortunate.
I got mine from Best Buy. Um, they were totally sold out on the lower capacity, no touch ID model.
Um, so got the higher capacity with touch ID model. I think that was especially touch ID.
I think that was a good move because I was ended up being kind of happy about it
because touch ID is pretty sweet. I have not only ended up missing touch ID just cause it's like convenient and
nice, um, but I've noticed that there are some software flows that Apple or their,
their software partners don't seem to have, um, factored in, um, for devices
that don't have touch ID. So you'll like get prompted to, to do touch ID and like, I don't have one.
And it's not like, if you search in settings, um, for like touch ID, it
doesn't just tell you, you don't have touch ID.
Like it just, if you don't understand that you ordered one that doesn't have
touch ID, okay. So that could be confusing to, to like an average user.
So speaking of confusing to an average user, we, we didn't know that the, so
that the touch ID, see how yours has like a power button or a lock button or
whatever it is on that key on the touch ID one.
There's no logo. Oh, right. Cause it's a fingerprint sensor.
So we were trying to have her to touch ID and she would press it in.
Like why the heck does the computer keep going to sleep?
Like trying to do basically anything and the computer keeps just shutting itself
down. We're like, what is happening? Why is this thing so buggy?
And then yeah, no, it's, we were pressing the power button. That makes sense.
Well, I was going to say, oh yeah, man, the best way experience dude.
I walk right in, tell them exactly what I want and they're like, okay, I'll
get it from the back. I'll meet you here in a couple of minutes. Okay, sounds good.
Goes and gets it from the back. Like, uh, can I tell you about our service plan thing?
And I was like, I mean, yeah, but I'm not getting it.
And who's like, okay, and he pitched it to me. He's like worse than I even thought because now it's a subscription instead
of a one time buy. Um, and he keeps going through the details and I'm like literally just sitting
on my phone. I come not buying this and it goes on for so long and every once in a while
look up for my phone and he's like, oh yeah, you can bring it into geekswad
anytime and they'll, they'll repair it for you. And I'm like, you guys just ship it off, right?
He was like, what? And I was like, you're repairing it through a depot. You're not repairing it here, right?
He's like, yeah, but we give you like a loner laptop while yours is out
for repair. I'm just like, wow, that sounds bad.
Like, okay, back to my phone and it was like a long time.
Yeah. I mean, let him do his job. No, I did.
Yeah. You know, no disrespect to the guy. You got to, you got to do what you got to do.
But product service plans. Yeah. Yeah, especially on, yeah, I don't know.
So to address the availability shortfall, Apple is reportedly considering
asking TSMC to restart a 18 pro production, which is wild, but TSMC is
apparently all already maxed out on its three nanometer process. So other options that Apple is rumored to be considering are dropping the
base model entirely and only selling the higher end model to hopefully slow
down sales. That's not going to do much. Even at $700, it's an incredible value or accelerating the release timeline
of the MacBook Neo 2 with a 19 pro silicon.
Interestingly, the MacBook Air M5 is readily available, but that's probably
because it starts at nearly double the price. The cheapest Neo. So it's not exactly, you know, filling the same niche.
The Neo is kind of eating Apple's own lunch, but that's what, that's what
hungry companies do. They eat their own lunch.
They compete with themselves. If, if a series silicon ultimately makes the lowest end M silicon kind of
redundant in the lineup, so what? That's fine. Great.
No problem. That sounds fantastic. Apple, like they're going to get serious market share for it.
macOS. If, if they can keep up, this thing destroys, like there's no, there is no
other option that would have been even close to as good for the person.
Well, I think it's pretty clear. I bought it for my mom, but I think there's, there's no, there was no other
option for her that would have even competed. One thing that has been kind of nice is on a, on a hunch.
I thought it might have been better for her because she, uh, adapted to iPhone
a lot easier than she adapted to Android iOS and macOS have so little in common
that it's kind of shocking to me. They come from the same company, but widgets on the desktop.
I was off like working on something else for a second and she just
like set up a ton of widgets for herself and kind of like organize her desktop
the way that she wanted. I was like, okay, cool. That wouldn't have been natural to me at all.
Um, and there was one of her apps where the like native app support for Mac
OS is kind of crap, but, uh, when you click on the widget, it just launches.
Um, I don't know what it's actually called, but it just launches like her
phone on her Mac. Yeah. Screen mirroring.
Yeah. And it just launches that up and then she just uses the phone version of the app
and it's totally fine. And it's like, okay, she figured out all of that on her own.
Sweet. So that, that part kind of worked. There are a couple of things with macOS that weren't entirely intuitive,
but we ended up figuring it out. Um, and then the, just the laptop itself, like dude, if you, if you hand
this to either of us three months ago or whatever and ask how much it costs.
Minimum minimum and probably more than that.
Yeah. Like got him. Damn. Okay.
But here's a funny one. Dan, roll the clip.
If I had a nickel for every time this has happened to me, I'd have two nickels,
which isn't a lot, but it's funny.
It's happened twice. How dude?
How is that even possible? I don't know. How do you do this?
I don't do anything.
Oh my God.
Oh man. I don't know how to deal with this anymore.
It's like, I have this reputation, I feel for like being a hater, you know, like
complaining that everything's a buggy piece of shit.
I'm so legitimately happy that it's working great for you, but it doesn't
change my experience.
That's so funny. We even installed steam.
I'm sure you did. Oh man.
That's really funny. SofaTux says, thank you for getting footage.
I have a pretty good footage.
It's not on this phone, but I have pretty good footage of my screen on my folding
phone, registering clicks offset by about a centimeter as well, like regularly.
Like dude, I just, I get so much weird stuff.
Here's a fun one. And someone I know pulled up there Samsung, was it Samsung?
Ooh, I don't know if it was actually a Samsung, but it was a definitely a
folding phone and compared, oh, okay, LTT Store.
We have new stuff. We'll get to that in a second. First, let's click on one of these products.
You click so aggressively. Sorry. There you go.
I get duplicates of our product photos on our site.
And his folding phone didn't get it.
That's strange. I don't, I don't understand. I don't know how to deal with this stuff.
That might not be a problem for as long.
I don't know if you want to announce that or not, but I'll just leave it. Announce what?
I don't know. I don't know. Just go for it. I don't know. The new site.
Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So there's a new LTT Store site. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. I think we've, I think we've talked about that. Okay. I have no idea.
Um, yeah, in like semi classic fashion.
Development on the old site is not super attractive right now.
Oh, I get it. So I get it. It is what it is. Yeah.
Anyway, we can move on to another topic. You want to pick one?
Sure. There's so much good stuff this week. I want to talk about this Steam one, dude.
This is so sick. Steam client files point to frame rate estimator feature in the works.
Data miners were sifting through a recent Steam client file release and they
uncovered references to a new feature called the frame rate estimator, which
would let you pick a game, input your CPU, GPU and RAM.
I also suspect eventually if you do the hardware survey, it will just already
have that information and your display resolution.
Yeah. If you do the hardware thing, yeah. Uh, and you can get a chart of expected frame rates based on crowdsource data
from other Steam users running similar hardware.
The groundwork appears to have been laid two months ago when Valve added an
opt-in option in the Steam beta client that let users share anonymized frame
rate data initially focused on Steam OS devices like the Steam Deck.
Um, at the time, Valve said that the data was meant to improve game
compatibility and Steam performance. Valve is not officially, Valve has not officially announced the feature
confirmed a release timeline or really anything at all.
Um, but yeah, it exists as unreleased code and it sounds awesome to me.
This would legitimately, okay, I was about to say in a vendor agnostic
fashion, but it's not, it's not vendor agnostic.
It's, it's Steam. But actually technically very specifically now have their own operating system,
which really throws that. But for me, this would pretty much address the problem of, you know, minimum
requirements and what graphics card should I get and what CPU should I get to
play this game? This is amazing. Should I, should I buy this?
And I don't know. I, I'd like to think that maybe this had something to do with some of the feedback
that I gave Valve a little while ago on the Steam hardware survey.
It's been about a year. So they've legitimately had time, but basically I said, Hey guys, I love the
hardware survey. It's really cool, but there are some aspects of it that are kind of antiquated
now. If the goal is for developers to understand what hardware they should be
targeting and if the other goal is for users to understand what kind of
performance they can expect, then only reporting things like the number of
cores, the frequency that they run at.
And I believe it even, does it cap at quad core? Or I don't even think it will, don't quote me on that.
The granularity is fairly limited from what I remember for core count and then
especially frequency, what I pointed out to them as I gave them examples of CPUs
that were released 10 years apart that have the same core count and the same
frequency, but vastly different performance.
And kind of laid out why we need a little bit better granularity with respect
to the generation of the hardware that we're looking at.
And that would be beneficial to everybody. Users, game developers, realistically valve themselves and selfishly media who,
you know, we will often lean on Steam hardware survey data in order to bring
the most relevant content. Like, I don't remember a single GPU review scrum that hasn't involved pulling
up the Steam hardware survey at some point to just, just to have the right
reference points like, oh, okay, you know, blah, blah, blah, let's do this, this,
this and this. Holy crap. 6% of people on Steam are running a 3060.
We should throw that in just for context so that 5% of the people watching
can go, oh, this is how it compares to exactly my GPU right now.
That's really important to us. And so I would, I'd like to think that they took that seriously.
Realistically, Valve has very smart people working there and I'm sure somebody
thought of it, but you know what?
I'm going to give myself 0.1% of the credit.
Okay, can I get away with that? I don't know. We'll see. If it happens, maybe that, that credit will have some value.
0.1%, 1, 1, 1,000th. Can I get away with it?
I don't know. I can't guarantee anything. I'm looking here and yeah, for CPUs specifically, it's still kind of, yeah.
Yep. This is not super helpful. 3.7 gigahertz and above, really?
And no, we do have exact core count, so that is useful. But the frequency is a, is a major issue in my humble opinion.
2.7% of users with 24 cores, but I believe that's logical.
So that would be 12 core CPUs if I recall correctly. Check 30, check 30 physical CPUs.
Oh, is that physical? Oh, okay. So those would be thread rippers then. Yeah.
Really? 0.74% of users are thread rippers. Wait, wait, wait, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
No, that would be Intel, Intel 24 cores.
Yeah, that's Intel. So that would be like 1,400Ks and stuff.
Oh, yeah. 8 performance cores, 16 efficiency cores.
Yep. Oh, see, but even that, bundling in efficiency cores with physical?
Exactly. There's just, there's so much more granularity that we could use to make more informed decisions.
Either way, I am, I am excited to see Valve build out their tools beyond just their
one, their one console for the benefit of all PC gamers that are using the Steam platform.
Do you need me to go back to your laptop? Well, I was interested. This is, this is certainly too old, but I'm really interested what happens to the
OS X numbers in the near future.
I just think it's funny. They still call it OS 10. I don't think it's been called OS 10 for like a thousand years.
Sure. But I like the, the pan.
Okay. I want to, I want to look this up. Google search history for like running games on Mac.
Cause these are selling like freaking crazy and they can run a ton of stuff.
Like you can run cyberpunk. I was looking up for my dad to see if it could and it can run SnowRunner.
Like it can actually run a lot of different random Steam games.
It can run cyberpunk. I played it today. It's not a great experience on 15 to 30.
Yeah. That's pretty good. It's good for what it is considered.
Yeah. It's good for what it is. Um, hold on.
I'm going to go worldwide, uh, last, uh, I don't know.
Sure. 2004 to present. Here we go.
Damn. Oh, put her perp, perp, perp, perp.
Wait for it. Wait for it.
Ready, Dan? Dang. This is what I'm saying, man.
Yep. Dang. So like it's like these laptops matter.
They're making, they're making a huge impact right now. And that's going to apply to gamers and which is actually really,
really interesting for the overall like because when I'm looking at it now
for March, 2026, Windows saw 4.28% drop in user share and the vast majority
of that went to Linux, but 1.2% of that went to Mac.
And then we have these laptops coming out and there's the Linux surge
seems to be continuing. I see threads about it constantly talking about pal people.
Wow. I haven't used this in a few years. I gave it a shot for whatever reason. Maybe it was us, maybe it was something else and it's working right now.
Tons of trends about that. And then also these laptops are moving like crazy and Windows is getting
Windows, at least for gamers is getting hit on both sides.
I think there's a chance that Windows falls below 90% of the install base
for steam in the next. Yeah. Do you think it could happen this year?
For sure. I think if Apple had an, it might happen in the next couple of months.
If they had an unlimited supply of a 18 pros, I would say yes.
I agree a hundred percent. Yeah. Yeah. If they only have six, seven million of them, then I'm not, I'm not as sure.
I'm not as sure, but that is wild.
That Windows might be less than 90% of market share for, for, for steam.
That's, wait, are they going to fall behind like NVIDIA? I'm going to be, I'm going to be, I'm going to be writing a video next week.
That tentatively is titled the humiliation of Microsoft Windows or Windows is year
of humiliation or something, something along those lines. It might not be the year of the, this is not a title, but it might not be the year
of the Linux desktop, but it definitely is the year of Windows humiliation.
Yeah. And just kind of talking through how, how tenuous, how, how dominant their market
share still is and yet how tenuous their position is becoming.
If that makes sense. And I'm going to kind of talk through some of the overall trends that we're
observing both in the Linux world and the Mac world. And it's simultaneously amongst Windows users who are just so tired of it.
You know? Yeah. It's exhausting. Why don't we jump into, why don't we pick a good news topic?
Hey, that's any topic. Nintendo in a shockingly pro consumer move, like, wow, has divorced digital
and physical game pricing.
The complete quote is from a games radar article.
And this is, this is a quote. My guess is that this is actually them lowering prices of digital games and not
raising the price of physical games. That's where I'm at with this. I think generally, no, I don't agree with this part.
Nintendo tries to do right by their customers and I think they do also
disagree with that. I look at this as a pro consumer move. I think it's a smart move too, but it does appear to be that Nintendo will
be decoupling physical and digital pricing.
We don't know that this means that digital pricing is going to go down
and all the pricing is going to stay the same. We don't know that. It's just an assumption.
It could be that hardware that physical game pricing will go up, but given
that they already increased pricing for the switch to generation, given
that given that they've allegedly cut production of the switch to my guess
is that they're looking at their business. They're looking at their business going, okay, we've got some good titles
for switch to they're very expensive.
How can we address this in a way that doesn't that isn't a price drop that
doesn't devalue our software, which Nintendo never wants to do.
But that's kind of what I'm saying is it would be a price drop, but only
on the digital copy. Yeah. So to me, the way that I'm reading this and maybe this is, maybe this is
hopeful, good news, April Wanshow Linus reading it this way.
But the way that I'm reading this is that Nintendo is going to be the
first to blink and go, all right, digital is cheaper and I'm here for it.
Or maybe not, maybe not the, maybe not the first to blink.
I mean, there's certainly no doubt that you can buy a PlayStation
game on sale on the, you know, PlayStation store for cheaper than a physical copy at, you know, GameStop or whatever.
I mean, it is pretty cool that Nintendo for the first time going.
Okay. Yeah. It's, it's cheaper online. Yeah.
And it always should have been. Probably.
I mean, I think there was maybe an argument in the early days of steam that this
infrastructure was so new and the investment in it was so colossal and the
value and the value of cloud save and the convenience of just downloading it
whenever, you know, maybe there was an argument to be made at that time, but I
think in the years after that, it's been pretty hard to justify the price being
the same for a digital copy of a brand new title versus a physical copy.
Yeah. You can't, you can't completely remove all the cost of making the physical copy
because there is expense in keeping the infrastructure up of distributing digital
copies and stuff like that, but like, man, they are not even sort of close.
Aromene actually brings up another kind of, I don't know about good news, but
certainly funny news. Nintendo lost the patent covering character summoning and battle mechanics.
Did you see that? Like the, the, the pokeball patent and no man's guy apparently immediately
added the mechanic to the game.
Look, I have my relationship with Nintendo as a brand is deeply complicated.
There's so many things they do. I don't like you and I'll also buy everything you make that if they were
anyone but them, I would, I would just patently, pun intended, refuse to buy
anything from them. But on the other hand, like I don't, I don't know of anyone who so lovingly cares
for their IPs with that said, I haven't seen the new Mario movie yet.
Many of the reviews I've read of it were very negative.
However, however, however, I did my due diligence and I went back and read
the same people's reviews of the first one and they were also negative,
which to me is just an indication that they're probably not a lot of fun
at parties and the kind of people that sucked the life out of the room because the first one was just fun.
Not everything has to be that deep, man. Maybe I just need an excuse to eat popcorn.
And if, as long as the second one is a good excuse to eat popcorn, I think
I'm going to be pretty happy with it. Nice. All right.
I want to go see a movie in theaters for the first time in many years.
I want to go see Hail Mary. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I want to see that too. There's actually, there's quite a few kind of interesting movies right now.
My son really wants to see goat. I have no idea.
Sports movie, but like animated with a, with a goat, like greatest of all time,
but also a goat. No, I put that together. Yeah.
Oh my God. Is it like this generation's airbud?
I don't know exactly what it is, but he's excited about it, which, you know,
is cool, I guess.
Where's it done by? Sony Pictures Animation.
Man, where the heck is Disney?
Yeah. Like all these other, it's anyway, sorry, we can move on to someone else,
but that's as a. We can talk about Netflix.
Here's a fun one. Netflix.
Get owned. Luke and I have talked about this extensively on the WAN Show.
We've taken what I feel is not necessarily, it shouldn't be an exceptional
approach to the subscription fees on Flowplain.
Whatever you agree to when you sign up is our agreement.
And while technically, for some reason, platforms are within their rights to alter
the deal, pray I don't alter it any further. We've never taken that approach and it looks like Netflix was just informed
that in Italy, you're supposed to do it the Flowplain way, unless you explicitly
say that you have the right to do it your way.
An Italian court in Rome has ruled that Netflix's subscription price increases
between, get this, 2017 to 2024 over a span of seven years were illegal under
the country's consumer code, which requires companies to provide a stated
justified reason before raising prices.
Netflix now has 90 days to notify its roughly 5.4 million Italian subscribers
of their right to a refund or face a 700 euro daily fine.
Lawyers for the consumer group, Movimento Consumatorio, sorry, I'm
sure I butchered that, estimate that premium subscribers who have been paying
since 2017 are entitled to roughly 500 euros each, while standard subscribers
are owed about 250 euros. That's like tidy little tax return territory.
Yeah. That's not pocket change. That's freaking crazy.
That's go get yourself something nice or pay a bill, unfortunately.
If every eligible subscriber claims this, Netflix's total liability could
exceed 2.3 billion dollars.
On top of the refunds, the court ordered Netflix to roll monthly prices back
to the 2015 launch levels. 11.99 euros for premium, 9.99 euro for standard.
Sounds like a lot of people are going to be VPNing to Italy.
Netflix says it will appeal and insist that its terms have always
complied with Italian law, but the ruling could have a knock-on effect
across Europe. Consumer groups in Germany, Spain, the Netherlands and Poland have
filed parallel challenges on the same legal basis and German courts in
Berlin and Cologne have already struck down the same Netflix pricing
clauses. Now it is worth noting that Netflix has updated their terms of service
now and any price changes that they implement going forward will be
legal from my understanding of it. That's not in our notes, but that is my understanding of it from just
my own reading before. But this is still a pretty nice little, yeah, a nice little W for
consumers in Italy who are tired of, you know, getting squeezed on every
freaking stupid subscription service under the sun, just casually,
casually raising prices all the time. It's good news WAN shows.
So this isn't one of the topics for this week, but YouTube had a
premium subscription increase that, you know, just, I don't know,
it's that premium subscription increase like last time.
They say it's to improve the service and like last time, it seems to be
more aligned with just general inflation and less aligned with any
kind of meaningful improvement in the service. So make of that, whatever you will.
I still, even at the new price, I still think YouTube premium is one
of the best bang for the buck subscriptions out there. YouTube is full of incredible content.
I'd like to think like you're watching right now. I use it so much that it's worth it to me still.
And the fact that it includes YouTube music, which I find to be a perfectly Cromulant music streaming service.
It's fine. And the fact that you can get it on a family plan for a deep discount
and share it with up to five family members.
It's just, it's, it's a great, it's a great value. It's an outstanding value.
All right. You want to pick one? Oh, wait. Nope. Oh, I'm good.
Oh, oh, oh, guys, guys that, uh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh,
pull up the store right. Um, we have a very exciting launch on LTT Store this weekend.
It is the flex and flow collection.
The first item from this collection is our multi-pocket leggings.
They're finally here. We started development of LTT.
Um, I don't want to call them yoga pants, but they're yoga pants.
LTT leggings like, I don't know, three years ago or something like that.
Um, I am constantly reminded of this project because Yvonne loves her
prototype ones so much that I fold them every week, even though we never actually
made the product. Um, so you're going to get more now.
They're just like the leggings that, you know, you could get at one of the other
stores that sell these leggings. Let's be real, right?
Except they've got seven total pockets, two on the thighs for your phone and five
in the waistband for your smaller stuff. So you can actually carry your things without needing a bag.
The fabric is soft, breathable and moisture wicking with lycra spandex for
great stretch and shape retention. So you can wear them for workouts, errands, or just all day.
People in the office have been really excited about these and they've already been wearing them to Pilates tennis and just around the house.
You can now get yours at LMG.GG slash leggings and I'm going to take a
moment to kind of go, Hey, are women viewers out there?
We hear you loud and clear. You've been disappointed with the assortment of women's products on
LTT Store. Here's your chance to help us invest in this category.
This is a great product. Whether you wear leggings or not spread the word or wait, wait for a few
reviews to come in and then spread the word.
It's a really good product. It is, I would say up to or at the top of our game in terms of how
quality this product is. Um, if you want to see more women's products, you're going to have to buy some.
There's also, I saw people in fully chat earlier asking about like, oh, I fit,
uh, whatever size from whatever brand.
Yes. Um, will I fit these ones? There is a size guide.
So, um, right here, some people don't see it because it's just like hyperlink
text, but under the sizes on pretty much every product on the store, there's a
size guide, you can click it and it will be, yeah, a lot of like the pictures
and stuff are generic, but this grid will be for the specific product.
So you can see your inseam length, your hip width, your, your pants, blah, blah,
waist, relaxed, whatever, something and all your sizes that go along with that.
Yep. Very important. All right.
These ones are for the guys. These are great.
The flex pants. They're kind of inspired by like mountain biking pants.
So they are built to move. We've got reinforced knees, a gusseted fit, and a stretchy waistband with a
do not drop draw cord that can be tied on the outside or the inside.
And they've also got seven pockets, six with YKK zippers.
So you can carry basically everything and not worry about anything falling out.
The, they're really comfortable. They, uh, in like a weird way, like they're not soft.
They're like, um, here, right.
I don't really know how to describe them. They're like, uh, interesting.
Yeah. And they're on the inside.
They're like, uh, I don't know.
I don't know how to describe them. I can see that being nice, but I understand what you mean by that being a
little bit different. Yeah. So kind of like, um, kind of like some of the French Terry hoodies, like
they're, they're soft, but they don't sit like right on your skin.
So they're not super warming. Not like Terry at all though. I don't want someone to hear that and get the, the effect is like that where
it's, it kind of, it kind of holds off your skin a little bit.
So it makes it feel more breathable, uh, but still not not cold.
Like it's still, you know, I don't know. It's a, it's a really cool garment.
Sure. Did they fit you? Uh, I don't think they would cause these are a small, no, the, the inseam
length on all of them is 29. Um, sorry, these are not in tall.
Yeah. It's pretty normal to have a 32, but okay.
All right. So those are, those are pretty exciting new products.
show, then I'm about to explain the coolest thing about the, it's not the coolest
thing, but it's a cool thing about the WAN Show. Instead of like other streams, just throwing your money at the screen and like,
I don't know, hoping Senpai notices you or something.
Uh, we don't do Twitch bits or super chats or anything like that.
We do checkout messages. So if you want to send a message, all you got to do is head to lttstore.com.
Add something to your cart. And when we're live, you will see the interface to send a checkout message.
You pick your color, you fill in your checkout message. You can be anonymous or show your first and last name.
And once you place your order, it will either go up there.
It'll just pop up like, thanks Richie P over there. Um, oh no, it'll go to producer Dan who will pop it up like that, reply to it or curate
it for me and Luke to respond to. Should we do a couple curated ones to show the folks how it works?
Yeah, sure. I got lots here already. Thanks for enabling my wife to get some high quality active wear.
As for my question, what's the worst part of dealing with asbestos removal?
The price. Besides the price.
Was that in the checkout message? Yeah.
I thought that's why you jumped in with that. No, the worst part is the price.
Nothing worse. Uh, well, it's not the asbestos getting into your lungs and giving a mess of your
only right. Well, that's the thing is I didn't do that. I paid someone to do it. So the worst part is the price.
I mean, I'd say my bigger concern when I was crawling around in the basement was
like mold, not asbestos. Like if I, if I end up with some kind of weird mold lung disease or something
like that, it's definitely from doing that, but I don't think there was really
anything in the way of asbestos down there. Yeah. And I didn't really disturb anything.
Like I didn't, I didn't break any, I didn't like touch any caulking or like
break any, uh, like, like, um, uh, break any materials apart or anything.
I just like hold like soggy carpet and stuff out of there.
Okay. Up next just finished a computer vision project for school.
What is a project that felt super rewarding after completing?
Ooh. I have a pretty critical version of that, which is the mineral oil computer.
That thing got me everything. It got me grants to go to school.
It got me friends when I was at school and it got me this job.
That was a highly rewarding project.
Nice. Really worked out. Yeah. That's, uh, that, um, I'm not going to be, I'm not going to be able to beat that.
Hiring Luke. Really? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Is that a project? Let's go for the feels. I mean, it was a long interview.
It was a very long interview. Yeah.
That's true. Yeah. Super a project that felt super rewarding.
You know what? I'm not going to go with like the most rewarding, but I'll go with one that was
quite rewarding recently. Um, I bought a couple of RC cars for me and my son back when he was.
Well, it was like 10 years ago. So he was just little and I was, I was probably jumping the gun a little bit.
We didn't use them much and they sat for 10 years. And in that time, all the differential fluid leaked out, all the shock oil
leaked out, um, the batteries like died, died, like not just were drained.
They, they died and, um, uh, there were some broken parts on them from
the little that they were used cause I was reckless and he didn't
know really how to control it cause he was just a little kid. And over the last few weekends, we've worked together.
We learned how to, uh, strip apart, uh, reseal and, uh, fill a, a
diff on an RC car. We fixed up the shocks.
We replaced a bunch of like broken pieces and then, um, with everything repaired,
we went out and made like a makeshift ramp and, uh, we're playing around
with it last weekend. It was super cool.
After two races around the yard, I crossed the pool cover with some water
pooled on it, burned my motor. So, um, we're not quite there on the reward on this project yet,
but we're, we're getting there. We're getting there cause it was really working on it though cause
you're working on repairing it with your son, which is like so valuable.
Yeah. He's learning a little bit. Really cool. Um, we, we had to three D.
We had to make like design and print some three D printed parts in
order to finish the repair cause it was like, did he like leave that portion?
Yeah. That's kind of cool. Oh yeah. I got to show him how to use calipers.
You know, just to, I don't just father son stuff. You know, sweet.
Yeah. It's good stuff. I like that.
I like that. Should we do one more down?
Oh, no, we're not. We're doing two more topics. Let's do one more if you want. Nope.
I don't want to. We'll do it later. Good. Got it.
Hey, let's talk about La NÃ©e de Linux.
The French government is apparently accelerating plans to reduce reliance
on extra European software in an effort to achieve digital sovereignty.
And when I say extra European, I don't mean super duper European.
I mean outside of European like, like extracurricular that like that sort of
extra workstations at denim din.
Um, the French government's digital agency will be the first to be moved
to an as yet unnamed Linux distribution.
My notes say insert holy war here.
Yeah. And other departments, including the national cybersecurity agency will be
following suit. Okay. All right. Let's start it.
I already, okay. Hold on. I know my answer. I know my answer. Hold on. Hold on.
Um, hold on.
Hold on. Um, I'm going to go with, um,
Okay.
Go ahead. Um, hold on.
Hold on. Mandrava. I think that was it.
Mandrava. Mandrava. I don't know how to pronounce it. I looked at, I looked up, I was looking up distros before the show.
I was like, are there distros that are either popular in France or largely
maintained by French maintainers? That's hacking.
You can't search stuff. I had to just guess. All right. Fine.
Well, I don't know. I could still definitely be wrong. I have no clue.
I, I think, I think they're going to be based and they're actually going to
roll their own. They wouldn't be the first government to do that.
And I think it's going to be based on Arch. Mand, Mandrava's or Maga, Maga or something.
Yeah. Can you just show me this word? No, I, What is this?
Oh. M-A-G-E-I-A.
I'm not any closer than you. Magia something.
I don't know. Um, I, I read something. Yeah. That's the successor.
Whatever. I don't know. Classic Linux stuff. It's not Mandrava.
I can, I can say that.
Um, I have no idea what it'll be.
If you look at user-based installs, it's very likely that it will be,
you know, Debian based or Arch based.
People are suggesting names for a French government own role Linux
distro. We've got Baguette OS. We've got,
Distro of Liberty. Linux, Linux Arch de Triomphe.
We've got, Um, Distro de Liberty.
Bestie OS. That's pretty good.
That one's pretty good. I like that. I'm, I'm, I'm liking a lot of these.
I'm liking a lot of these. Libuntu. Libuntu.
That is pretty good.
Oh man. Oh man. Um,
That's fun. Uh, yeah, I wouldn't mind Sacre Boon too.
I hope they don't roll their own or if they do roll their own,
I hope there's a lot of up-the-chain development that happens.
I just, man, we don't need more fragmentation. Oh my God.
No, we don't need it, but it just seems like the kind of thing that would happen.
If you look at the Steam hardware survey,
in regards to distros that are like on the more simple and easy side of things,
Mint has a lot of install base. I don't suspect they're going to end up going there.
My guess would be is that they don't end up on Mint,
but we'll see. I could see Red Hat something like that.
There's something, something with actual Red Hat Fedora, like real support grunt behind it.
Totally. Yeah. That would probably make the most sense, something along that line.
Being said by someone who doesn't know what they're talking about, but still, Red Hat is American though.
Yeah, that might be fair. I'm not sure if it matters as much.
I don't think it matters as much, but there's still a company behind it and that company's in the States, right?
Zusei is an open, Zusei is a more European centric and still very well supported and storied distro as well.
Oh, that could get it. Yeah, I think there, I think the origin there is German.
Don't quote me on that. That could definitely get it though. That's interesting.
I don't know, but it's exciting. And there's, there is a question here.
We've seen similar programs elsewhere in Europe with the city of Munich's
Limmux project running from 2003 to 2017
before they ultimately decided to reverse course. Do you think France's efforts will be successful?
And I think they actually could be.
The difference between, I know I've said this probably every WAN Show for a month,
but the difference between the last time we did the Linux challenge and now is genuinely mind blowing.
Astronomical. Whoa!
Linux Mint has a French founder. Really?
Someone in chat just said it. I don't know if it's true or not, but someone in chat just said it.
If that's true, if there's a chance that it's Mint, that would be so sick.
That would be so cool.
You are actually rooting for distros like a Linux do now.
No, I just be happy. You clapped.
You clapped. Happy little clapped. That is the definition. Happy little clapped.
That is the definition. I'm genuinely happy with whatever they go with.
I don't actually care, but it would be neat if it was Mint.
I'm not a hater of other choices,
but I get a little happy when people use Mint because Mint is cool.
Speaking of Linux, patches to the Linux kernel and KDE
should give a noticeable performance boost to gamers
with limited VRAM, which in 2026,
apparently includes cards that have only eight gigabytes
of dedicated memory, and that really has been a trend
over the last couple of years. Developer Natalie Vaugh has refined kernel level memory
management and introduced a KDE plasma component to enable
VRAM prioritization for the foreground application,
i.e. your full screen game. The patches are out now, initially for AMD and theoretically
Intel, on CacheOS and on other arch-based distros.
If you don't use KDE as your desktop, the improvements are also available in newer versions of Valve's game
scope compositor. If you're after the technical details, you can check out
the developer's blog post, which Dan will not be posting
in chat, so you'll just have to go Google PixelCluster's
GPU blog. I can post it in Floatplane chat, at least.
Thank you, Luke. That's wonderful. I appreciate you.
Excellent.
It says two more topics and we're through two more, but until he comes back, we're not...
Oh, you know what? Yeah, we'll do sponsor spots. Oh, wait, I can't.
I can't without Dan. I did have some people ask, like, oh, why are you so happy
about Mint if you're running Cache? I'm running Cache on my desktop PC for the modern...
Cache and KDE on my desktop PC for modern features and
performance and power and raw. And I'm running Mint on my laptop for simplicity and
stability and work every timeness. And that's why I would expect a government to go more on
the Mint side than a Cache side.
But I do think there's plenty of other solutions that would
make a ton of sense. Fedora, Red Hat, things like that being among them.
Maybe not Red Hat again, because the American company thing and that being, like, the whole goal of what they're
trying to get away from. I don't think it's the same as using Windows, but they'll
probably still not go that route. I've got a micro topic.
This one isn't so much good news as it is hilarious.
Redditor underscore underscore 30 underscore underscore
posted a couple of screenshots showing an AI summary with
some facts about the company that acquired us nine days
ago on April the 1st.
FOMO Foundry. This is great.
So apparently my browser thinks that FOMO Foundry is a
real thing. FOMO Foundry is an entity that acquired Linus Media Group in
April 2026, pivoting the tech media company toward a product
first strategy that replaced its writing and engineering departments with AI tools like chat GPT and proprietary
large language models. Following the acquisition LMG launched the Linus coin, a
physical token minted from defective screwdriver parts which serves as a digital credit with a two to one
redemption rate to maintain financial solvency.
How could anything be so accurate and yet so fundamentally
wrong?
We did it. We did it. Reddit. We did it.
We bamboozled. What is this? Is this is this Gemini then?
Yeah. It looks like Gemini to me. What's goggles?
Is this I just don't want to get this wrong. Wait, what is goggles? I don't know.
Yeah. My browser thinks so this is it's some LLM somewhere.
So what's see what seems to have happened here is that
DNS records indicate that FOMO dash foundry dot com was
registered March 17th of this year. So it's possible that the AI is conflating that network
OS with our new corporate overlords or it's also possible
that it just ain't that deep and it's easily confused.
If you're wondering, by the way, we did register FOMO foundry
dot AI. It's not Gemini.
Yeah. So it's it's something we bamboozled something. So we did register FOMO foundry dot AI, but you'll have to
try it for yourself to see where it goes. We worked on that for a while.
It's pretty good. I actually I I think the developers who worked on that
aspect of the approfus joke are the unsung heroes of this whole endeavor.
So it was like actually a lot of effort and so few people
went to it and like won't necessarily have legs, but we
worked on it for a while. I know. And like to be clear, the the physical merchandise team,
they did a lot of work getting the coin design did a lot of work getting the coin going that video production guys.
They did a lot of work make bringing the whole video together.
Elijah died for this project. So that's true.
That was that was unfortunate, but it still might not
equal the effort, but FOMO foundry dot AI.
I think was more effort than all of those things combined.
Like Elijah's parents raising him for over 20 years.
I still pales in comparison. Don't think equaled how hard the developers worked on FOMO
foundry dot AI. Yeah. Yeah, but they'll be remembered by us.
Um, I mean, I'm never going to give them up.
Yeah, or let them down. No.
Uh, okay, Skoda develops a bike bell that can bypass speaking
of bells that can bypass noise canceling headphones and then
gives the technology away for free, which is awesome.
This is so base. This is so cool. It sounds really cool to Skoda has developed the duo bell a
bicycle bell engineered to cut through active noise canceling headphones, which is a major problem right now because tons
of people have them. They've become very normal. Uh, in collaboration with researchers at the university of
Salford, the car company points to a 24% Ryzen bike pedestrian
collisions in 2024 partially blamed on the explosion of ANC
headphones drowning out traditional bells. Researchers found a narrow safety gap between 750 and 780
Hertz where ANC algorithms struggle to suppress sound.
So the bell rings at that exact pitch.
It's a range, but whatever. Uh, a second resonator at a higher frequency keeps it
sounding like it keeps it sounding like a normal bike bell
and, uh, and an irregular striking mechanism produces sharp
sound bursts that ANC processing can't really react to in
time. Uh, the whole thing is fully mechanical with zero electronics.
That's the coolest part. That's so cool. So just so awesome.
Uh, and in real world, in real world tests with delivery
couriers in London, which I'm assuming is like, I don't know
like Uber eats or something. Yeah. Uh, I actually don't know pedestrians with ANC headphones
detected the duo bell from up to 22 meters further away than
a normal bell. That's awesome. Giving cyclists a critical extra reaction window and a pretty
decent one. Let's go to 22 meters in the context of like traffic movement.
That's, that's awesome. That's huge. That's life, life saving.
Yeah. That's pretty true. It's called Skoda.
Good. Okay. Thank you. Cool. Uh, neat.
Uh, Skoda is publishing all the research and findings publicly
for free so other manufacturers can build their own versions fitting given that Skoda actually started out making bicycles 130
years ago before it ever built a car.
That is so cool.
Our discussion question is when's the last time a car company did something this genuinely useful for cyclists and pedestrians
without trying to lock it behind a patent? Uh, I can't think of anything.
There's got to be something at some point, but yeah, I have no idea what this reminded me of was the seat belt.
Wasn't the seat belt something like this? Somebody invented it and then made it free for everybody.
Yeah. But I don't know if that helps pedestrians.
You know what? That's pretty based Volvo and seat belts. Yeah. That was that was very cool.
No, I'm down with it. You know what? Let's go. Let's go shout out Volvo then.
Yeah. I mean, to the extent that the original Volvo even still exists
as a car manufacturer, but I'm just, I'm just saying who knows.
I'm just saying. Well, no, like they're, they're owned by a who owns Volvo.
Yeah. Geely. I mean, everybody's, as far as I can tell, basically everybody's
been sold to somebody since back then. No, no, VW is still VW.
They're out there ford still ford for better force.
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Did we talk about Linux on limited VRAM already?
Yep. Okay. Sure. The topic wasn't crossed off. So I wasn't sure.
Sorry. Nope. Oh, I just, I don't cross them off. I just, I just collapsed them.
I think Dan does. What a guy. And I got it.
I got it. I think you were just getting water or something. It's fine. Cool. Just wanted to check.
Low plane announcement. We let Mr.
David Pankratts vlog what his week at LMG is like.
Huh. If you've watched any LTT videos in the last six to seven months,
David has been an unsung hero in probably at least one of them as
he has been really helping out the writers in their push to getting
especially some of the more technical aspects of things over the line.
This week's Floatplane exclusive has him building a PC for Red Bull
showcasing scripts for setting up our PCs and being part of the
do writers at LTT. All think the same video.
You can go check that out at LMG dot GG slash F P WAN.
Let's see what people are thinking of this video so far. Yeah, they're people are people are liking it.
Pretty cool. He, um, he is aware of many, many, many hats.
All right. More topics.
Uh, yeah, there's a one I want to jump into where to go.
It's on the dock. So Samsung Electronics fires first shot and departure from ARM
develops proprietary SSD controller based on open source risk five.
It's happening. More risk news. It's happening.
Good. Samsung is launching its BM nine K one cool SSD lineup with a custom
in-house controller chip built on the open source risk five architecture. Marking the first time Samsung Samsung has shipped a commercial product
using risk five instead of ARM.
The move let Samsung skip arms licensing fees and customize the chip.
However, it was, which is especially relevant given arms recent legal fight with Qualcomm over chip design changes.
Samsung says the new design is 1.6 times faster.
That does not mean your SSD will be 1.6 times faster to be clear,
but still that's very cool and 23% more energy efficient.
That does not mean your entire SSD will be 23% more energy efficient,
but it's still cool than the previous generation. Samsung is following Western digital, which has been using its
own risk five chips in SSD controllers for years and Samsung has
played around with risk five and other projects since 2020 sorry 2019,
but never shipped anything until now. The BM nine K one is set to launch in 2027 and that is awesome
because any commercial product products that ship with risk on them
just makes it more normal to be clear.
Which is ARM is also risk, but he means risk five.
Yeah. Yeah. The I have a theory.
It's just a theory. That's not trademarked and he's retired.
Nope. He's retired. A computer theory. Sure.
A computer theory. I have a computer theory. I have a theory that as long as the transition took between x 86 and ARM
or not even transition because they're very much still coexisting today,
but as long as that took I think risk fives rise will be.
At most a third of the amount of time we're going towards a very
interesting future because with the like mind shared divestment that's
happening from Microsoft and Windows right now of people interested in Mac
and people interested in Linux and just kind of moving off of off of that
and hardware just getting a little funky like pricing has been really crazy
a lot of Chinese manufacturers are starting to kind of prop up and look at that consumer market and go we might be able to take some of that
especially if pricing is going to be 2000% higher than it used to be
companies like more and more companies. I'm finding discussions about risk five to be much more common these days
and it was even three, four years ago.
There's you know, Google making their own stuff Intel interested in being
a fab potentially more than even their own like speaking Intel.
I had this queued up already. I don't give financial advice on this show, but if you bought Intel
when I said that I thought it was looking kind of cool and laid out
all the reasons I thought it was kind of cool in the medium to long term.
You're doing pretty good so far. Just throwing that I don't know man.
I it's it's real tempting sometimes when I can just kind of like see
the tea leaves and I'm like this is the direction me being invested
in Intel would be pretty bad though. That'd be pretty bad.
Anyway, yeah.
Yeah. So it's like it's it's interesting. A lot of things are moving towards like actually genuinely moving
towards open source setups for things which is very based interesting.
It's cool. I don't know what that future necessarily looks like.
Probably a lot of fragmentation, but I think it'll be fun.
I'm excited. Okay.
Next topic. Stay the path says yeah, that almost be as bad as like the President
of the United States shilling a ticker or like a crypto or NFT or something.
You know what? You're right. I think that if it's their own name, I think they have to.
That would never happen. Yeah. Yeah, that's that's pretty far fetched.
I wouldn't want to live in a world that's so corrupt that the politicians
at the highest level would shill stocks and also almost as bad.
YouTubers would do it. I don't want to live in that world almost almost as bad.
Speaking of far fetched Apple approves drivers that let AMD and
NVIDIA eGPUs run on Mac. Okay. I was so excited when I read that much of it.
Carry on. Yeah, it gets a little worse. The software is designed for AI though and not built for gaming.
Apple has officially signed off on those drivers. The drivers are developed by tiny corp, the company behind the tiny box
AI accelerator and Apple's approval means users no longer need hacky
workarounds like disabling system integrity protection to get eGPUs running.
This is specifically for AI workloads, not for gaming.
The drivers are built for running large language models.
So if you were hoping to plug a GPU into your Mac and fire up games,
that's unfortunately not in the cards.
Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding solid solid.
Tiny corp first got an eGPU working on Apple Silicon back in May.
Twenty twenty five. That was not me by the way. That was the writer back in May twenty twenty five, but that required
unofficial methods. Now with Apple's blessing installation is straightforward.
For context, tiny corp sells some serious AI hardware. Their lineup ranges from twelve thousand from a twelve thousand
dollar box with four AMD ninety seventy XTs all the way up to a sixty
five thousand dollars system running for RTX Pro six thousand
Blackwell GPUs.
The reason that this is in good news when show. I feel like I should explain that it's still good.
Is that this is the first step sign of a potential future.
Faw in the frosty relationship between Apple and NVIDIA.
I would love to see at some point.
You know, I think asking for an NVIDIA GPU baked onto Apple Silicon in
a multi die package, that's probably unrealistic, but I'd love to see a
future where I could hook an NVIDIA GPU up to my MacBook Neo three
or MacBook Neo four and run serious games off of an iPhone CPU.
Be sweet and NVIDIA is down. We know this because they actually went and did the work and made a
driver and this was a number of years ago and Apple intentionally
blocked it from working ever since bump gate.
Things have been frosty between between the two.
But I just I feel like both of them have come so far and been so successful
that you would think it would be time to bury the hatchet.
You know, maybe maybe maybe when pigs fly and you know me and gamers
Nexus make up and kiss.
I had a segue plan for the next topic and it's gone as I have no idea
what it was. I have genuinely that for an image in your mind.
His hair just draping around your face.
Hey, what makes you think I would be on the bottom?
So many things. Ha ha ha ha ha.
Key. I feel I feel like he would. Yeah, key cron has made their keyboard and my designs source available
allowing anyone to design or 3D print parts for their devices.
This is so cool. They published a GitHub repository containing production grade CAD
files for 83 of their keyboard and mouse models.
Files are available in step for 3D CAD work, DXF for 2D plate
cutting and DWG for engineering drawings, meaning that owners can
3D print enclosures, CNC replacement plate, even in a new material
like brass or carbon fiber or design their own mods without reverse
engineering any of the measurements. Despite widespread reporting, though, calling this open source, key
cron founder Nick Zoo has clarified it's actually source available.
So personal builds, hobby projects and educational use are fine,
but commercial use is strictly prohibited and you can't use the
files to manufacture or sell competing products.
Key cron had already published QMK and ZMK firmware source for
many of its boards. So this adds the physical hardware dimension to an already
pretty open stack. They are miles ahead of basically every other keyboard and mouse
brand as far as this goes who all seem to treat physical geometry
as proprietary and lock it away.
I got to say this is this is admirable. I don't know if I would be able.
I don't know if I would have the stones to follow this step.
This is incredibly cool.
Now this is for discontinued products. And so I'm kind of I'm trying to think like screwdriver is one
that we've had people ask for the CAD for and I think upon request
we've provided the outside dimensions, but we have never
provided the drawings for the entire thing.
I think if you're a if you're a manufacturing shop in wherever
and you want to rip off their keyboard, I think you can take it
apart and figure those things out. Like I think at like deep commercial level, you could already
steal it from them.
So I think there's probably some amount of recognition there
and them just being like, hey, the people who wanted to rip this
off already could have and we can be really cool guys to a lot
of the people that that just want to do good things with this.
So I mean, it sounds sounds like a great move to me and I don't
really think they're setting themselves up for anything super
horrible. No, I don't think so. I just don't know if I have the stones. It's so unconventional and maybe someday maybe this is the
first step in a move like this becoming conventional.
That'd be cool and pretty sick.
I'll have to do some reflection on it. You know, maybe someday.
Deity willing. I could be this based.
Speaking about things that are based dear like John dear that
dear. Yeah. Like like go for yourself.
I'm not calling them based to be clear. No, really not just happened to them is is good and I don't know
enough about this case to say that this was enough, but I'm happy that something happened that they are probably not happy about.
Dear settles us right to repair lawsuit agrees to 99 million
dollar fund for farmers couldn't couldn't make it one more just
make it a hundred, but I guess that's fine.
They put that into a settlement fund to resolve the 2022 class
action lawsuit that accused the company of monopolizing repair
services and conspiring with authorized dealers to force farmers
to use them for tractor and equipment fixes. The fund covers farmers who paid dear or its authorized dealers
for large agricultural equipment repairs dating back to January
of 2018. More importantly, and this is where I got actually excited.
Dear has committed to providing the digital tools software and
manuals needed to diagnose and repair its tractors combines
and sugarcane harvesters for the next 10 years on a license.
Oh, I only read the first half on a license or subscription
basis formalizing a memorandum that had previously existed,
but was never legally binding license or subscription basis.
Ah, that feels like that's going to be abused horribly.
This is better than them having it under lock and key.
Yeah, because it just gets pirated immediately. I was going to say anything that exists on a license or
subscription basis exists on the high seas.
Yeah. Yeah. Hopefully that gets on the high seas like immediately.
Dear insists the settlement comes with no admission of wrongdoing,
but right to repair advocates are calling it a landmark win that
could set precedents for similar cases against automakers and
consumer tech companies and hopefully it does.
Our discussion question is, dear had to be dragged through
four years of litigation and a $99 million settlement to let
farmers fix their own tractors. How many other industries are running the same playbook?
Oh, tons of them. Most importantly, I think is in medicine.
Like the fact that fixing people is also bound by these same douche
baggery moves now to be clear. I'm not saying it should just be a free for all because when
something is so important that it keeps a person alive.
I am not saying that just any random schmuck should necessarily
be working on it with any random schmuck parts, but there's
got to be a middle ground. Yeah.
There's got to be a middle ground. Yeah. I can tell you from experience that aviation has some of this
nonsense in it. My uncle showed me a light bulb, a little incandescent bulb.
I should bring it in. I'll bring it in maybe next week if I remember, but it's about
this big. I get it for aviation because if you're, if you're totally
average size, light bulb this size, it's $20 because you can
only get it from Deso directly. No one else is allowed to make it and it's the only one that
certifies that you can put it behind like a little illuminated switch in a dashboard.
It's like freaking ridiculous. I just don't want people with big, shiny metal objects in
the sky to necessarily have an easier time when it could result
in that big, shiny metal object smacking into somebody.
And, but I mean, that's the, oh man, see that's the dangerous
sort of territory that we end up in because that's the kind of
justification that's given for locking things down.
So I'm just saying there's got to be a middle ground. Yeah. And with something like tractors, it seems pretty obvious because
the only person who could be harmed by it not operating correctly
is the operator of it. So at least by, by fixing it yourself and doing your own thing
to it, it's your own liability that you are ultimately creating.
Yeah. And it's sticky because I, I very much support rate to prepare
when it comes to cars and cars has a similar problem to the plane.
I think I'm just a lot less worried about protecting people who own
planes than I am protecting people who own cars. I think you're just worried that, you know, if anything bad
happened to me that you'd be sad. Thank you.
I appreciate that.
You know what I'm worried about though is that the flat
earthers are going to have a field day with how good those
photos of the solar eclipse look from Artemis 2.
They look almost too good to be real. Do you want to, do you want to fire it up while I just talk
through the thing? The full mass of galleries based, so I'll go there.
The Artemis 2 crew took a bunch of photos of the moon during
their lunar flyby and the images look like something out of
Asimov's foundation series. So I honestly, even, even some of the ones who are inside
the ship like that is such a sick photo dude.
Absolutely. This is about as based as a photo can be while there isn't yet
a moon base. This is probably the coolest photo of someone taking a photo.
But okay, we get to, we get to the real ones. You can download these.
They are really high res, fantastic background bait for,
for people who want to make cool stuff.
Some of these are just, yeah, wow. Isn't that incredible?
Um, okay, that one to the right there. This one?
No, uh, left, left. Yeah. Oh, I, I love this one.
That is so just like OLED friendly background.
Yeah. Wow. Maybe there's a little bit too much contrast along the bottom
left, but still. Oh, that's so cool.
There's a recreation of the iconic Earthrise photo from Apollo 8.
It's, it's, it's, it's, yeah, hold on, this one.
They're very similar. I mean, they were taken, they were taken a lot of photos.
They were taken a lot of photos. This one specifically called out as it, but yeah.
Uh, here's an eclipse shot.
Oh man. So good.
It's so cool. So good. Oh man.
The moon and nighttime is visible in the background as the
sun is setting on the opposite side. The image captures the beginning of a total solar eclipse that
astronauts were able to observe at the end of their lunar observation period.
Ah, ah, it's just, it's just the, the write ups are just
exactly what was happening. And yet they sound so cool.
Commander Reed Wiseman told Mission Control it was a surreal
experience and said he'd need to invent new adjectives because
no existing words could describe what they were seeing out the window.
NASA has shared the full metadata for the photos to prove that they are real, unprocessed captures from the Orion capsule.
They're not renders. They're not composites. Just breathtaking photos.
And yet I, I firmly believe photos of a set.
I firmly believe that because they look too good, someone
out there will believe they are fake sponsored by blender.
I believe that they're real and I firmly believe that I don't
care because I choose to live in a world where it is real and
that is more interesting and more fun and more exciting.
It was, um, I, I, I made the mistake of watching a small
amount of a reaction video of someone watching a stream of
some flat earthers watching the launch and like talking about
how they were faking it. And, um, taking the launch like fake.
Yeah, of course. Just go because a rocket launch has to be fake.
If, if the earth is, you know, flat and stuff, you can see it
from so far away and you can go not that far away.
Dude, they start talking about like how many camera angles
there are and how many cuts there are to conceal like the,
I don't know, the set or like the fakeness of it. They cut that. It's like, you know how many, you know how many camera angle
cuts there are in a soccer game? Does that mean nobody has ever played soccer?
What are you even talking about? Like it's watching, watching these people twist themselves
into mental gymnastic pretzels to continue to believe something
that is just so obviously not true.
Like you can just think any of its bait.
I wish it was.
Like some of it's got to be bait. Some of it.
I'm sure there's also people. Here's the thing that believe it. If the influencers are all are 100% of them.
If 100% of them are grifters, right? My NASA paycheck came in.
Sure. So if 100% of the influencers in the space are grifters,
then if nobody actually believed it, who would be following them
then?
Like I'm saying, even if the people who are, who are most
active in propagating the conspiracy theory are in on it.
Okay. Obviously somebody's not because they wouldn't be watching this.
So, so I can't, so I can't accept. But you watched it.
No, I watched someone watching it to make fun of it.
But I think there's a lot of people that will rage watch stuff like that.
Okay. I'm going to say something sadder.
A peripheral family member. Oh, no.
I ended up in like a fairly, I don't know about heated, but
definitely firm conversation with about it at some point.
So that's unfortunate. Yeah. And there was like, it wasn't, it wasn't like at the end of it.
They were like, I'm just kidding.
Like, you know, there, there was emotion.
So no, no, I'm sorry. I love commitment to something so sad.
It's almost admirable. It's just a, no, it's not a less interesting world.
It's like there's so much like, I don't know. I think a flat, I think a flat like pancake thing rotating around
amidst all the other round planets is pretty interesting.
But like also to believe that we've never made it out there and we've never learned these things.
We've never, you know, mankind never took that step.
Like it's just, it's smaller. It's narrower.
It's a, there's so much darkness and like sadness and negativity
in the world very heavily right now. Not on the land show.
And there's, there's these, there's these moments of like human
brightness that happen and to deny that is just so sad.
I, I, that's why it's like, I fully believe that it's real.
And even if I didn't. I would want to.
Okay. This might not be a topic for when show, but would you extend
that logic to.
I do a placebo things. Dragons.
Do you choose to believe abominable snowman is real because that's more interesting?
I think abominable snowman is pretty interesting. It's not good though.
That's interesting, but it's not good. Part of this is that it's good.
I mean, the vacuum of space is not good, but it's interesting.
There's nothing to lead me to believe either of those things
are legitimate. Okay. So you want some evidence. They're vaguely interesting.
I don't think they're anywhere even in the same stratosphere
as interesting as, as, as this and I don't see them as good.
So like, I don't think they're equivalencies. I understand what you're trying to go for.
There might be other things. I think for me, it's placebo. So within limits of, you know, things that you have actual
any evidence for whatsoever, you choose to believe the more
interesting and exciting version and good for now.
And that's one of the like, I will, I will repeatedly tell myself that if I take like a, a drug or a treatment for
something, I will like push into my brain repeatedly.
Like it's good that I'm taking this cause it works. Right.
Oh yeah. And I'll like fullheartedly believe that cause I'm like, all right, come on in some way, in some way this will work.
So like, yeah, I think I do that with more than just NASA stuff,
but the house, I mean, I've, I've, I've seen a rocket takeoff.
I don't know, bro. You can just go.
The ducks are free.
I don't know, man. In other space related news, the FCC is set to supercharge
satellite internet performance and potentially lower costs.
They just announced they'll vote on April 30th on an order to
overhaul satellite spectrum sharing rules from the 1990s,
replacing the old equivalent power flux density framework that
limits how much signal, how much signal power, low earth orbit
satellites like Starlink can use. FCC chair Brendan Carr said that the change could boost
capacity for space based broadband by as much as seven times current levels using the same number of satellites.
The rule change would mean faster speeds, potentially lower costs and better service for rural and remote users
with the FCC estimating more than $2 billion in economic benefits for the U.S.
alone. Space X, which has lobbied heavily for the change,
stands to gain the most. Starlink accounts for about 65% of all active satellites
in orbit and they have more than 10 million subscribers worldwide.
The timing is pretty excellent for them right now too with the rumored IPO coming.
Interestingly though, not everyone's on board. Geostationary satellite operators like Viacet, SES and
Direct TV opposed the change, arguing that loosening the power
limits could cause interference with their existing fleets.
In other NASA news, that's a fan testing video that we released
this week. It took a long time, which was not great.
Like I think Adam's trip was like a year ago, but the timing
ended up being really good. To the point where a lot of people thought you guys didn't
intentionally. Nope. Don't think you did.
Definitely not. There was just a lot of math and a lot of coordination and a
lot of just things taken a long time and we eventually got it
done. Dr. Lewis Edelman, former NASA scientist, delved into the
detail. Of the fan testing equipment and methodology in an article on
the LTT Labs website.
How freaking cool is that? We have a special guest writer.
Awesome. You guys are definitely going to want to head over there and
read this because there's only so much that we can cover in a
video format and while keeping it, you know, not a snooze fest
and you can see as I go through this clearly.
Not all of this was in there. And just because it's not a snooze via text or sorry, just
because it would be kind of snooze worthy and video doesn't mean that it's snooze worthy via totally.
It's an excellent read and you guys are going to want to check
it out. We also have another LTT Labs article to promote and that is
power supply, turn on and turn off timings.
It's something that I had never thought about before and don't
get scared by this because Lucas actually does a really good
job breaking stuff down of explaining all these values and
why they exist and why they matter, which is pretty cool.
There's a lot more to the ATX specification than just like
12 volt go burr. It's really cool stuff and once you understand it more,
you properly appreciate just how smart the folks who design
these standards are and how important they are like Intel.
Telerious like Intel never Intel never made a power supply for you to put in your gaming rig.
But here they are start foundationally involved in the
design of functionally every single one you've ever used in
your lifetime unless you're very, very old. Pretty cool stuff.
Definitely worth a read as well. LTT Labs has been doing some really neat stuff over the last
little while. Anyway, our discussion question is have you ever made a really
poor fan placement decision in a previous build that this video
from the collaboration with NASA would have prevented?
I don't think so, but mostly because I haven't had a lot of
builds that had glass in them. There are a ton of cases out there that this would have
actually potentially impacted where I put my fans, but I
haven't built in a lot of them.
The only case that I've ever had that had like front panel
glass is the one that I currently have and there's no
fan slots there. I think for me it's less front panel glass and it's more bottom
intakes. There have been many cases that have short enough feet that
their bottom intakes, now that I understand how much spacing
we actually need, simply just are not intaking air efficiently.
That doesn't mean that I wouldn't still put the fans there, but I might not rely on them as much.
I might opt for a different configuration of the fans in the
rest of the case knowing that those ones in the bottom are not really drawing in that much air or I might run them at a
lower speed knowing that they're going to have an outsized
effect on the overall noise of my system because of all that
turbulence in their intake.
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Chat helped me figure it out. Nice.
Good job, chat. I need another second to actually bring up the actual video,
but we're talking about power supply timings and it made me think of a video I watched recently from Lori Wired, which
is this one. Your RAM has a 60 year old design flaw.
I bypassed it. That was sick. I watched that recently too. This is an incredible amazing video.
It's so awesome. I didn't know it worked this way.
I don't want to go way too deep into it, but the storytelling is really good.
Her work is really good. I personally like long format videos on YouTube.
It's just an awesome watch. If you're into that kind of stuff, usually I'm pointing
you guys for these types of things to the Labs website and
you should go check that out for the NASA fan video and the power supply timings thing, but you mentioned timings were
writing me of this amazing video.
I don't want to spoil too much of it, but yeah, a very, very old design constraint from like when we were trying to figure
out how to do PC memory, has your RAM modules effectively
like kind of turning off so capacitors can recharge and then turning back on and that is technically a performance
loss and then diving into like why that is required and
blah, blah, blah, blah. It's a very, very good video. I don't want to say too much, but check it out.
It's fantastic. Is this the one where it involved having multiple copies of
the same data on the RAM and then hitting the one that had
the lowest latency or something like that? Or was that a separate RAM?
I think that's a separate thing. Oh, okay. Dan, do you remember?
I'm pretty sure that's a separate thing. It might be a separate thing. It's incredibly complicated.
There were like two copies though, but I don't know.
Yeah.
Sorry. One of the top comments is randomly absent memory and I just think that's really funny.
They got to play with trains. Yeah, it's cool.
I, there's been a lot going on. It's not that old a video. It's only three days old.
It feels like I watched this weeks ago. I would have said like two weeks.
So I don't remember all the details super, super well, but it's, it's a great video and I just really recommend checking
it out. All right, cool. Anyways, that's it.
Hey, another good news. It's real. The five terabyte Google one upgrade Google has bumped
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of cloud storage at no extra cost with the 1999 per month
price staying the same. The extra space works across Gmail, Google drive and
Google photos. This only applies to AI pro subscribers standard Google
one tiers haven't changed and we'll start at a hundred gigs for $2 a month.
Google announced it on April 1st, which had some users wondering if it was a joke, but VP, Sherman, Ben, yeah,
confirmed it on Twitter.
Part of me kind of goes, yeah, are they just trying to get more
of your data? It's like, yes, but also if we were going to have to pay for
it for them to get more of our data, at least I guess they can get more of our data, which I know it's expensive right
now, but home labbing is sick. Yeah, but hey, we so rarely find a subscription service these
days that is just a subscription service from a big tech
company that got better instead of worse spontaneously is more
rare, more rather than less. So we're we got to call out bad stuff when we see it, but we
also got to like, you know, on the other side, we got to be like, good job when something doesn't suck more.
Yeah. Say the past said heads up though. Home lab is an enormous rabbit hole.
Yeah, yeah, there's, I think there's, I think people have
a tendency to dive in further than they necessarily need to
and I think you can start with home labby stuff without really
going way too hard and there are content creators out there that can help you not dive past either your capabilities,
your desire to invest time or your desire to invest money.
You can do it in simpler ways and cheaper ways. You can turn anything into a dick measuring contest.
So just don't lab is for sure one of those.
I have so many AI GPUs in my in my house.
I don't even use them because I just and that's cool.
It's just other people. You just don't have to, you know, you don't have to do that.
You can keep it pretty simple. Yeah, you don't have to do that.
Do not do that. Hey, oh, you know what?
I'll save this one. Our last big topic, neural compression speaking of AI is
coming for your VRAM and both NVIDIA and Intel are racing
to ship it. They both showed off new neural texture compression tech
this week. NVIDIA's approach neural texture compression NTC had their demo
showing VRAM usage dropping from about six and a half gigabytes
with traditional compressed textures to just 970 megabytes
all while keeping image quality close to the original.
The core idea here is instead of using traditional block compression, which chops textures into small blocks and
approximates them. NTC uses a small neural network that learns a much more
efficient compressed representation of the texture data and reconstructs it on the fly during rendering.
Yeah, I'm a little skeptical too. I'll need to see it in action.
Just relax.
You're brow furring. I can feel it from here.
Meanwhile, Intel's approach texture set neural compression
TSNC had Intel showing two variants.
Variant A delivers up to nine times compression with minimal
quality loss. They say around 5% perceptual difference while variant B
pushes to 18 times compression but starts showing artifacts.
Intel's approach works at the texture set level. Instead of compressing each texture individually, their
system looks at all the textures for material together, colors, normals, roughness, etc.
and trains neural network to learn patterns across all of them at once.
At runtime, a tiny AI model reconstructs the full set from
that compressed data. If these results hold up in real games, if the practical
impact could be significant, smaller installs, lighter patches
and more headroom for higher quality assets on the same GPU hardware.
NVIDIA also showed a companion technology called Neural Materials.
Instead of storing tons of texture channels and running heavy shading math, it encodes material behavior into a compact
representation that a small neural network decodes at render
time. In one example, a 19 channel material setup was reduced
to eight channels with a 1.4x to 7.7x improvement to render
speeds at 1080p. Our writer says, I had to look up what channels meant in
this context. I'm going to drop a definition here in case you need it.
Channels are the separate texture layers that make up a single surface like color, roughness, normals, metallicness,
etc. One key distinction guys, this is very important.
This is not DLSS5. DLSS, as far as we can tell, works at the end of the pipeline
on the final image. There's a little bit of muddying of the waters there
lately. So let's see what DLSS5 actually ends up being.
But as far as we can tell, that's what it is.
These neural compression techniques are embedded deeper inside the render engine, handling specific tasks like
decoding textures and evaluating materials rather than acting as a big Instagram filter at the end.
That distinction matters because both developers and players had something of an extreme reaction to the effects of
DLS5 on the original artistic intent.
And now layer these two things together. Like how far can we stray from the original vision?
Well, it depends if the original vision is for them to use
this at the start, then I guess it was the original vision.
Maybe, but this is even like, okay, fair enough, but I don't
know that that's happening. And also it's going to be inconsistent for each user.
I won't know that until I see it. I want to see it. Like if this is something where I end up with like boiling on
every texture in my game or something like that, then obviously
I'm going to be pretty against it. I'm...
Layers and layers of interpretation is a bit of a scary thing.
I wasn't sure that DLSS super sampling or super resolution,
sorry, not super, whatever the stupid upscaling. I wasn't convinced that DLSS was ever going to be something
that I'd want to turn on. 4.5 is something I would turn on without hesitation.
So while I fully understand and I'm on board a lot of the
hesitancy and a lot of the skepticism around NVIDIA's
marketing of their DLSS various technologies and AI, various
technologies, I'm going to take a wait and see approach.
Yeah, I mean, I'm going to wait. I'm going to see it because it's going to happen. Nothing else really matters.
Exactly. There's nothing else that really matters. Like there's nothing you can do. It's not like I can call Jensen and be like, hey, that thing
you were working on, stop it. It's bad. It's just cut to top the presses.
Forget it. We don't like it. Turn it off now.
It feels like a telephone game problem. Oh, sure.
Garbage in garbage out. Pretty intense telephone game. And how many layers of garbage in before all we could
possibly get out of it is garbage. Yeah, it's a good question. Yeah, but we'll see.
Have you seen that like looking at the Ubisoft logo from the side thing or whatever?
Oh, yes. It's a turd. Yes. Yes, I have.
Intel says that an alpha SDK is planned later this year
while NVIDIA hasn't given a specific timeline, but is framing this as part of its broader neural rendering
roadmap alongside DLSS five.
Right now, it's hard for me to reflexively hate on
anything that makes it so we don't need quite as much RAM.
I guess I'm just concerned. You should be.
And I think I would have been concerned already and then
having seen that stuff from DLSS five.
I am concerned. I don't remember if I mentioned this back when we did
that segment with Riley, but one of the one of the first
things I said to NVIDIA about the DLSS five demo is that
like I think the worst thing that they did was show it
before it was cooked. I am usually the kind of person who enjoys seeing things
be developed in the open and watching the progress in real
time. In this case, I think they I think they did so much harm
and so much damage to what maybe will end up being better
than what we saw by showing it to us in that state because
it's not like this was on the verge of launching. It's not like it was going to launch in a week.
Yeah, like it's it's months away. Oh, Rod.
Rod said they're sharing DLSS five demo at PDX land tomorrow.
Oh, interesting. Okay. Well, Rod, are you going?
I assume you're going. Are you going to? Are you going to report for us?
You can be our correspondent. Yeah, you can. You can be our DLSS.
I in the sky. Yeah.
He says I'm at the I'm at the land. Yeah. Heck yeah. Why aren't you playing video games, bro?
Watching you're watching Wancho from a crack out loud.
I mean, I'm not convinced it's about the video games for Rod. I think he's more about the community and the computers.
And yet somehow he doesn't manage to come up and play softball with us last year.
He's gonna wheel it. Yeah, but he didn't come play softball. Do you know how many times I asked him to come to softball?
That guy. He's coming to the next wheel. Can't take these guys anywhere.
I think Tarkov right now have one in the background. Nice solid.
All right. All right. You know what? I'll allow it.
You know what else I'll allow? Wow. Wow. That's bold.
I know. That's very bold.
True gamer. Verified actual gamer.
Viewer Wolfgang has the solution to my Xbox pairing issue.
Remember I was saying I had Xbox pairing issues.
Apparently to fix it, I just need a bare metal Windows install and I have to use
that to update the controller firmware on the Xbox accessories app.
They apparently tried it in a VM and even that didn't work.
And of course you also have the Xbox app installed and signed in so you can
download something called gaming services and after updating the firmware,
his paired flawlessly. So I just want to take a moment to call out any company that requires me to own
more of their products in order to update the firmware on their products.
It's bad.
Apple folks always get mad at me about this when I say it is completely
unacceptable that I have to buy another Apple product in order to update the
firmware on my AirPods and they say that it's some kind of double standard.
It is not a double standard. It's unacceptable when Microsoft does it too.
I already paid like 70 Canadian dollars for your controller or whatever they are
these days. Yeah. I should be able to maintain them perfectly fine on any platform.
Period. I agree. I'm going to jump back to the like graphics AI topic for a quick sec.
I find it very interesting because usually I'm a proponent of like, you know,
don't jump down people's throats so much or else they just won't talk to you again
in the future. But I find this one really weird because we have like Disney and they came out
with their like Star Wars animals thing. That was horrible.
And then DLSS5 and I just keep running into there's been other examples as well.
I just can't really think of them on top of my head right now, which is like, why are you showing me that?
Yeah. Like the Disney one especially was just like, what?
Like you thought this was cool? Like if they had just...
What are you talking about? If they had just used some AI in the background and then done all, you know, the other work
that they would do and it was just in a movie, probably no one would have noticed or said
anything about it. Look at our creators. Here, Disney, AI demo, awful.
It's just so bad.
Like it's the like audacity to be like, yeah, this is awesome.
It was wild. Yeah.
You know this? Like... I do.
What? And I'll remember this for longer than I will remember them doing something cool.
Yeah. It just, it's just kind of weird.
Strange. Anyways.
Oh man, I forgot how horrible these were.
They're so stupid. They're so bad. Yeah.
They're just so dumb. Yeah.
Geez. All right. Anyways.
Anyways, it's time for After Dark. Dan, let's do this thing.
Good gravy. There's a...
There's a lot of... There's a lot of checkout messages today.
They love those leggings. They've been asking for them every week for years.
The leggings are moving. Okay.
All right. All right. Let's do it.
Let's... Sweet. I'm glad to have more of those products.
Do you imagine that the Creator Warehouse team, which is predominantly women, would
like to make more products that they could wear at home?
I do. Yeah. And we've given the opportunities, but we need, you know, we need your support.
We need our 97% male audience to evangelize these.
And normally I don't ask you guys to do that. I don't want your charity.
Women has pockets. Like I don't... Women has seven pockets.
You guys don't owe me any favors, but if you love the products on sort of the men's side
and you want us to have any shot of accessing a women audience and bringing that quality
and bringing that care and attention to detail to women's products, I'm going to need your
help this time. That's all there is to it.
And it looks like it looks like you guys are responding to that.
And once these, like seriously, we've actually moved quite a few of them today.
Once these are in people's hands, leave a review and don't sugarcoat it.
No. Leave an honest review because that's what we want so that you can help, you know, help
guide people. And if we did a bad job, then hey, we'll take it, we'll take that and we'll go back to the
drawing board, but I don't think we did a bad job. So if we did a good job, then say that too and we can build some momentum on this.
All right. Wow.
How many did they, two leggings excited.
These are out to share the LDD quality with my wife.
What are some tech related hobbies that your significant others have been interested in?
I mean, my, my daughters are getting really into, um, oh man, what is my, what is my eldest
daughter not into? She's getting really into animation on the iPad, just like, like drawing frames and animating
them. She's been getting really into, um, 3d modeling and 3d printing.
Um, she definitely still has some, so she understands 3d printing a bit and she understands
3d modeling a bit, but she's just now starting to model things and then 3d print them.
And so the one that she was trying to print last night, uh, the, the one that I started
again at like two in the morning or whatever, uh, was a third attempt because it just was
like not very optimized. Um, so that's something that is really exciting to see her learning.
Um, oh wait, significant others. Sorry.
I thought you meant I read it as other significant people in my life.
So I went straight to my kids. Um, tech related hobbies, Yvonne's into, I mean, she loves like her cricket, uh, anything
to do with like vinyl plotting, like 2d, 2d cutting.
The carpet thing. Uh, yeah. She hasn't actually used that much though, whereas like the cricket, she's used a lot.
Like she did a bunch of signage for smash champs on the cricket and it's like so pro
looking, you would never know, but she like hand aligned all of it and she was like, oh,
I think that one's way off. I'm like, don't, don't touch it. It's no one will ever notice.
It's fine. She's just like that though.
Um, I'd say the cricket is probably the biggest like tech thing for Yvonne that she's like
dived into. Cool.
Was this both of us or was it just, uh, tech stuff?
I mean, she got into streaming for a bit there. She did.
Plenty time. Plenty time. She liked streaming.
That was fun. She hasn't been, she's been knitting.
Okay. Not tech, but sure. No, I know, but I'm saying like she's gone away.
I mean, at a time that was technology. I'm trying to think, I don't think she's been in super into tech stuff in a while.
She's pretty good with it actually, just yeah, like we, we recently kind of like moved back
in from the rental. Her computer's not set up yet. It's all sitting there, but just hasn't really like bothered to plug it in.
Um, and the, the other computing that she's done is like, she used a laptop for a short
period of time just to like make a Google sheet for my mom and then got off the laptop
again and didn't touch it again. So I don't know.
Hey, didn't she do some stuff with like vibe coding or something?
Okay. Yeah. There you go.
You got that. For like her old job or something like that, right?
Yeah. She took like, uh, oh man, I'm going to describe this really poorly, but, um, there's like
actually a lot of variants of products when you're in glasses, because it does like when
you're, when you're trying to check the person out basically, yeah, does it, does it have
this type of coding? Oh my God. Does that fair?
Uh, it doesn't have this type of coding. Does it have whatever who knows various?
Is it, is it a bifocal? Is it not? Is it all these different types of things?
So, and then you have to try to figure out what the pricing is going to be for the person.
So when you're like trying to tell them what it's going to cost, if they get various things,
she built this like form that could help you flow through that a lot more easily.
That's cool. Um, and that, that was, that was a little bit ago, but she was quite successful with that
and she was actually quite successful with maintaining that, which can be really annoying.
And she had some frustrations with it because it's really annoying.
This was a bit ago when it was worse. Um, so yeah, that works pretty well.
That was actually what really sold me on people who have never even looked at code before
being able to vibe code. I remember you talking to me excitedly about it.
It was very impressive. Like this is, this is something. Yeah.
I don't know what it is. And it's, it is now a tool in her belt that she has, which I don't think she's really
used since then, but it's available. It's there.
Confidence to do it. And it's just going to be better for the next time, which is pretty cool.
And it's again, it's one of those scenarios where like no one lost a job from that.
They were never going to hire someone to do that. That was never going to happen.
It just made people's lives dealing with that system a little bit better, which is like
cool. Psychoma asks, if Yvonne used the laser cutter from her tech upgrade, I've used it.
I made her a mother's day present with it. Like laser, like cork, like heat pads for like hot pots and stuff.
Cool. They just say, I love you, mom. They're from the kids, but like I did all the work.
They just like picked whatever I, yeah.
And then Noki says, knitting isn't tech.
Yvonne got that by the mirror. That's an embroidery machine.
And they have been using that. I just sent down a picture of a pretty cool project.
Dude, it's, it's cool. They, they, there's like open source communities for knitting because they,
they like share their patterns and stuff. It's like actually sweet.
It's, it was really interesting to see how much crossover there is, but yeah,
life is, life is strange and it's cool.
Yeah, go for it. I'm assuming you guys were talking about, um, like this kind of tech or actually
wait, hold on, don't show it just yet. Let me just double check something really quick.
Um,
he did you, and she's been getting into like different blends of different
yarns and all these different things. And it's, it's cool.
It's pretty sweet. It's not for me necessarily, but it's pretty sweet.
I'm excited about the output.
Yeah. Anytime. Yeah.
Yeah. So, uh, this was done on the embroidery machine. She made that.
Well, I mean, everything else was done on the sewing machine, uh, but yes,
she's super into making stuffed animals right now.
Uh, and then the eyes were done on the embroidery machine.
That's pretty sick. Yeah. This is a gift for a family member. That's cool.
Yeah. From, she makes them from, from just fabric.
We're at a wee bit of a distance, but I would just believe that was a product.
Oh yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Like it looks great. Yep. That's awesome.
Yeah. Pretty cool. That's really cool. Noki Fox, Firefox, give me.
I mean, you can commission one. I've told her, I think she should sell them, but, uh, she's mostly just
interested in making them for fun. If she made a little Firefox that actually looked like the Firefox logo is Firefox.
For it to be, that would probably slam for it to be worth her time.
It would have to be pretty expensive. They take a long time.
It's a, it's a hobbyist thing for sure.
Yeah. Well, everyone watching on Flowplain is using Firefox. I know they are.
There's a lot of Firefox. Every one of them. Yep.
Hit me, Dan. Linus, with the Tesla, with Tesla heralding the imminent arrival of unsupervised, unsupervised,
full self-driving, do you think that or open pilot will be done first, which would you
rather have all else being equal? I mean, I'd rather have the version that Tesla's been promising for all this time.
Unfortunately, hold on.
Hold on, hold on, but it, but unfortunately it's been promised over and over and over
and over and over and over and over again, and it has just never, like, actually arrived
in the way that they have promised it here.
Hold on. There's a, there's a really funny article that broke down all the times that Elon has
said by this date, it will be more safe than human drivers.
And then the, the writer of the article actually didn't get them all.
And one of the, one of the commenters under it found going back even further, more times
that he had used exactly the same puffery language to describe the progress that they
were making on full self-driving. And to be clear, you know, what a Tesla is capable of doing is very cool.
My objection to it is the way that it's been marketed, the way that people have been
misled for all of these years, at many times in ways that Tesla and, and their
leadership must have known was not true.
That's what I find frustrating about it. It's not that the software is not cool.
It's not that it's not useful. It just isn't what they said it was or what they branded it as.
And the timelines have just, I mean, they've just become a meme at this point.
Like it's not even, it's like valve time, at least valve eventually delivers the thing.
When are we actually going to get the Tesla full self-driving that is actually safer than
a human driver? And maybe more importantly, when is Tesla going to have the stones to actually publish
any peer reviewed data that backs that up? They don't.
Waymo does, but Tesla doesn't.
And the only reason that I can think of that Tesla would not publish data like their
disengagement, for instance, is that it's not flattering.
That's the, that's why else. If you're the leader in the space, you talk about it.
If you like to pretend and you would cosplay as the leader in the space, then you
obfuscate. It's that simple.
Hey, DLL love the show. Question for Linus and Luke.
If I made an LTT video game, what would you like to see in it?
I would like to see gameplay first and not an LTT video game.
I just don't think an LTT video game would be very good.
What even would an LTT video game be?
Like I, like, uh, like I'd see something like PC building simulator, like a simulator
type game, maybe. Is it, uh, man, what was that?
Name of the game, video PR crisis management simulator.
It makes sense. Video game creation simulator or something.
What was that? Game Dev Tycoon.
Oh yeah. Okay. It was like Game Dev Tycoon, but PewDiePie already has YouTuber simulator
though. So like, what the heck else is it? I think it would be different than that.
Game Dev Tycoon isn't, isn't just the like Game Dev version of YouTube simulator.
It's, it's different. We could like Game Dev Tycoon it, but with YouTube channels.
And it wouldn't even technically have to just be tech. And that's how you can get away from it being LTT based is it could just be
YouTube channels. Now we're getting a little bit closer to YouTube simulator, but it's still,
it's still different. I swear it's still different. No key points out that we already made an LTT video game.
Hold on. Here it is. Yep.
Well, we also had Linus Jump. I don't think there's a lot of like footage of easily findable.
That was pretty cool. But Linus Jump was actually pretty sweet. For the verified actual gamer program.
Yeah. All right, Dan, hit me.
Hi, Linus, Luke and Dan looking for the best thermal adhesive to apply rocket
cool copper IHS to a 12700K.
Any other advice? Found a working chip on three bay.
Excuse me. Just a need to assemble. Uh, also, how's your steam build?
Uh, here's, here's my question for you. Um, at this point, why put an IHS back on a CPU?
Yeah. Go bare die. Maybe. Yeah, if it's working, just, um, man, what would I use?
I'm trying to remember, does Intel solder them?
Um, I, man, I haven't felt the need to deal it and Intel top tier chip in quite a while.
I'm sure, yeah, I'm sure Roman, uh, Der Bauer would have, uh, a video for you.
But, uh, it's Intel solder the 1200, 12,000.
Excuse me. Um, series chips.
That's what I would probably want to know. Yeah.
Oh man, if they're soldered by default, almost anything you put on them is not
going to be an upgrade. I mean, doesn't rocket cool have, uh, a guide for how you're supposed to assemble
their copper IHS?
I would just, I would just raw dog it bare die personally.
Be fast, be cool. Products. Here we go. Instructions.
Here, I'm going to, I'm going to do the research for you. 12th gen instructions.
Delid, relid. Hair dryer to soften. This video is unavailable.
What the. Really? You guys.
Okay. Well, I can see what the problem is then. Artemis two suggested in his suggestions.
Let's go.
Yeah. I would check out Der Bauer's channel. He would almost certainly have something about that.
But I, huh, man, I see people are saying liquid metal and that would be maybe
the most effective, but it would be pretty dangerous to apply there when you
don't have a way of, I wouldn't trust just silicone gluing an IHS back
down and hoping that I have enough, enough contact for liquid metal personally.
PTM would be safe. I don't know how good it would be in that, in that application.
And I say PTM 7950 is the one I mean. Yeah, from, from LTT Store, we have that.
It's a good thermal pad.
But the honest truth is I just don't know if it's the best for, for that situation.
Sorry. Hey LDL, been a fan since I was a kid.
I was tasked with making one to two mill photos, million photos, be
viewable to far away elderly family members considering Google photos or a
home lab solution. What would you suggest? Oh my God.
Well, it depends. Do you want a fun project?
If that's the case, how about image? Do you want to just upload it, crap it onto the internet and not
think about it anymore than Google photos?
I mean. Depends. I know like some people really seem to hate helping family members with tech
stuff and them being far away.
I don't know how compatible it is for like, are you awake when they're awake?
Like if they're having a trouble viewing your home lab thing, is it going to be
okay? Now that doesn't mean that they're going to have no problems with Google
photos, but the blame shifts.
So it's kind of up to you. I do wonder what the cost for storing two million photos into Google photos would be.
I'll be right back.
Bye. Bye. Um, but yeah, I don't know, my gut would be to image it, um, but yeah, it
depends how, how, how, how friendly are you with those relatives?
How much time do you want to spend being the blame for everything?
And how much do you think they will understand that? Because it's not like Google photos is going to be perfect either.
But anytime you provide the solution, I've had this talk with the infrastructure
team a bunch locally at LMG. It's like, yeah, I mean, if, if the thing that we propose that we use is
someone else's thing that we're just paying for, when it goes down, everybody just goes, ah, you know, dang, um, if it's our thing, if we're self-hosting
it, whatever else, and it goes down, then people get angrier, I find, and
specifically at you, which is rough. So, um, yeah, are they that type of person or are they going to be supportive?
Of, of you trying to do it yourself?
I would, I would self-analyze that. Cause like I say, oh, I would probably go with the self-hosted solution.
I'm pretty confident my family would just think it's like cool.
And if there was more problems, they're just like, let me know, and then it'd be fine.
So, I don't know, it depends.
My concern is no matter what you do, uh, you set it up so it'll be your fault.
Yeah. You are now on the hook for this cloud flare goes down, you set it up.
It's your fault. Why did you pick something that went through the cloud flare dummy?
Yeah. Well, they don't even understand what that is. Just the thing that you were in charge of is now broken.
Yeah. And then again, with certain people, that won't be a problem at all.
And with others that will, I would try to analyze which, which they might be.
And go from there, print them out and just, just mail, have a, have a requesting
service, service where they can just get tons and tons of boxes full of all the
photos at any time and people just ship them around to each other.
What about just having an external drive with them and like a sync thing so that
you can just like give them to them, like mailing it with extra steps.
I had to, we had to data transfer a ton of videos back in the day from Dankpods.
Um, and it was faster and more efficient for him to just mail us a drive.
What is it? The pigeon per second kind of thing, like pigeons and, and truck.
What is, what is the data transfer rate of a, at some level, it becomes faster to.
Yeah, duct tape, micro SD cards to pigeons.
What is the, what is the meme? What is the data transfer rate of a, what are those old, uh, old, old
mobiles that had the wood paneling they had like a name. Uh, Buick, I don't, I don't know.
Uh, I think there's old station wagon. Yeah. What is the data transfer rate of a station wagon?
A lot, a ton, these days, even more.
Cause now we have one terabyte micro SD cards. Yep. You fill up a station wagon with one of those, all of those.
Sorry. And you are, you are moving data.
Yeah, you can't, you can't, I think that's why like, uh, geez, back plays part of
their recovery system is we'll just ship you like a box of hard drives.
Yep. Yep. Is there, is there a discussion question we can do?
No, I'm looking for one, uh, how about this one?
Uh, Hey, loop, Lenas and Laniel.
What would you say are some examples of lower, lower power tech that has far
exceeded your needs and expectations on Earth's lower power tech?
I think I can interpret this in a few ways. I think one of them is a bit of a cop.
Oh, cause I'm looking at it right there, but the Neo, um, it's a, it's a phone
processor. I don't think that's actually talked about enough. It's a mobile phone processor and the laptop is sweet.
Like I actually don't, I haven't seen a ton of people kind of pointing out like,
guys, this isn't, this isn't necessarily what you'd expect in a laptop in regards
to the, the, the chip, um, but it's really good.
Also, this was not low power, but would probably be considered low performance.
I guess now, uh, but something like a 1080 people are still rocking 10 80s to
play modern competitive games and doing fine with it, which is wild.
The fact that people are playing, um, even like graphically great games, people
are playing arc Raiders on 10 80s and having a totally fantastic time.
And the 10 eight has been around three times.
Oh, no ding for that.
I'm back.
I'm going to turn 360 degrees around and walk away.
Hey, oh, um, it's story time.
Remember you asked why I was so tired this week? Sure. So we had a trip to Virginia.
Okay. We went to see a data center for, I did like a sponsored video for Equinix,
which is pretty cool. Cool. Unlike the last Equinix data center tour we did, I was like,
Hey, we can't just like do the same thing over and over again. They're like, Oh yeah, that makes sense.
Don't worry, we've actually got lots of really cool stuff. And I was like, Oh, okay, cool.
So we went into one of their, um, one of their like experimental cages.
You got in the cage?
Nice. And it was in their like test platform cages.
Uh, they had, um, a lot of it was actually like older stuff,
but it was kind of experimental stuff. So one of the things that we're going to show is like this, um,
you know how direct liquid cooling is like totally a thing for servers.
Yep. Um, what I hadn't had somehow escaped my notice was they have a two stage system
there that instead of using water is using water to cool a, uh, or a two phase, excuse me.
Uh, they have a two phase system. So they're using water to cool a refrigerant that is being pumped around
with a compressor out to the systems in it that apparently it's been around for like four or five years now, which I thought was pretty cool.
So we, we checked that out. Anyway, that's not the story.
The story is that there's a particular member of the writing team who was,
uh, basically came to me and said, I would like to, uh, I would like to ride the thing.
And I basically said, well, you can't just ride it because as much as I joke about,
oh, well, as long as we have a business meeting, then it's a business expense.
That's not actually how it works. You just actually have to do something. You actually, it has to actually be for a reason.
And so he pitched the lowest hanging fruit possible, uh, that we would build the highest
PC ever, but like, haha, get it.
Um, now obviously we're not just going to do like the most low effort nonsense ever.
So, uh, what we did is we worked with, uh, pancrats, who has his, um,
week in the life of vlog over on Floatplane right now. I'm gg, LMG, GG slash Floatplane, uh, to make what we believe is maybe not the,
but one of the most, uh, efficient gaming PCs.
So in terms of FPS per watt, uh, I don't think we were much clear of like 200 watts
by the time we were done with it, but we were playing cyberpunk at like 60 FPS,
1080p, like very solid settings. That is very cool.
Anyway, it's how it was supposed to go until we had finished meal service.
And we went to get everything out of the luggage compartment.
And realized that one certain writer had left the case on the ground.
Oh.
Did you, did you buy the case on the other end and then build it on the way back?
So we devised a plan.
Okay. The way it was supposed to work was because we, we wouldn't just like take it up to
build a computer in it and bring it down. Like it would have to be going somewhere for a good reason already.
Anyway, uh, so he was, he was on, we was with us on the whole trip.
And then he was just going to like work from home for the rest of the trip. And then what was supposed to happen was on the way back, we were supposed to be able to nap
because the equinex tour started at, started at eight o'clock in the morning Eastern time,
which is five o'clock in the morning for us. So I was up at like 430 or something or 420, uh, after doing the highest PC build.
Um, and so I wanted to work all day and then sleep on the way back.
But instead we devised a plan, uh, while Sherrod and I went to equinex with, uh,
Sean, one of our new, one of our newer guys, he's a camera op actually.
He's, he's awesome. You guys will meet him at some point pretty soon.
I think, uh, we went to do the data center tour and, um, screw it.
Elijah, you're going to find out soon enough. Uh, but chat all guests because you like hinted to the idea super strongly in the,
Oh, did I, in the announcement video, announcement video.
You talked about like how he was going to build like low power draw and, uh, high performance.
And, oh, did we already have this video planned at that point?
I get my timelines. You mentioned lightweight a lot. So it might not have been exactly this, but it was pretty much this.
Yeah. It's, it's pretty light. It's not the lightest thing, but it's, it's like it's small.
It's pretty light and it's super low power draw. Okay. Yeah, it was Elijah.
Anyway, so he went and it turns out, Hey, there's micro center about 40 minutes from the data center.
So he basically went to micro center, bought the case, um, and then went back to the airport
and just like sat and like work from home because like what the heck else is he going to do?
We don't have a hotel room anymore because we were going back that day. So he just like hung out at the airport for like six hours.
And then we finished the data center tour. I'm like wiped because I actually had a really hard time falling asleep the night before.
Um, because I've not time adjusted and then I was getting up at like, and also I just,
I have a hard time sleeping and then I had to get up at like 430 my time and then so I worked all day
and then we did our meal and then I was like sitting there and it's like
time to rally. Okay. Let's do this thing. Um, smelling salts just to film videos.
And it actually ended up working out. Okay. We were really worried because the original plan for the trip had us flying back at night
or like in the dark, not at night, but in the dark.
And what we've learned so far is that that would not work.
I don't think we can film in there other than daytime.
But we not only got it working, we got everything going.
We got power figured out. We got, I was even able to download OBS so that I could do screen cap because
we forgot to put OBS on the drive before we took off. It took forever.
Oh yeah. Right. That makes sense. But we're able to game the one thing, you know, what I'm not going to,
I'm not going to spoil anything else. It is probably the most unhinged video that has been on our channel
in a solid six months. Not very grounded, you could say. You could say that.
You could say that. So aggressive.
I will give you guys one, I will give you guys one hint.
I'll give you guys one hint. Okay. I'm going to send this to you, Dan.
Just throw this on the, just throw this up on the stream.
This is so funny. Normally the video would be hosted by like me and Elijah, right?
And Sean would film it, but we actually had a special guest
for this video on the way back.
Dan, you want to, you want to throw that up for us when you get a minute? Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
You got a sec. I, oh yeah. Oh yeah.
Yeah. Go for it. Go for it. Sharad decided to lend us a helping hand on the shoot.
What am I looking at here? He was napping the whole time.
Was he snoring or something? No, but when I had to cable manage under him was pretty interesting.
Oh boy. It's sheer dumb fun. It's, it's complete dumb fun.
And if you thought that the, you know, not being grounded joke was terrible,
we've got whole new depths of depravity to, you know,
what else I'm actually really excited about is we've got,
we've got a video coming where I finally do a build with Sammy.
Oh, cool. Do you know about this? No. Sammy, only sort of my permission uploaded a short called,
Oh, I do know about this. $1 for my PC for every, my boss will spend $1 on my PC for every subscriber.
Subscriber. Yeah. That video drove 18,000 subscribers.
So I was contractually obligated to build Sammy a workstation for $18,000 with a caveat.
I got to pick the hardware. I mean, I'm when buying it, right?
So, so Sammy and I build a machine together and James was watching it.
He said that it's, it's one of the most fun videos we've ever done.
And also because Sammy is,
like has built a computer before, but like not well
is actually full of like really good solid like tech tips for beginners and intermediate builders
and stuff. I'm really excited about that one too. Both of these videos have like very similar, just, just plain fun energy.
Is it going to happen? Just plain fun. No, I got it. I was wondering if it's going to happen.
There we go. Thanks, Dan. I thought you were still talking about the Sammy.
Yeah, well, no, both of them, both of them. I think we're, I don't know, man, we're headed into an interesting era, I think.
I, I was looking at, what's the video that we have coming out this weekend?
Let me have a look here. Train.
Oh yeah, like, oh man, I think it's coming this weekend or Monday, but we had,
we had our electric chargers cut, our EV chargers cut and the copper cord stolen.
And just classic, this is like classic. I thought you did that for a completely different reason.
No, no, this is like classic LTT stuff. Like just a thing happened in our daily lives and we use it as an opportunity for tech tips.
We make an upgrade to the car chargers. We talk about the process.
We talk about like the value of the copper that was stolen.
By the way, for you like copper thieves out there, it's not a lot.
It's like not actually worth that much. Like really don't do that.
It's not, it's like not worth it. I was talking to-
This is a side quest. I was talking to Alex, Alex Dick, our logistics manager guy.
And I was like, dude, what would you think of just like putting a little sticker
on the car chargers that's just like, hey, if you need it that badly,
there's 10 bucks in a tin can behind the building. Just go take it.
Like this is not worth it, man.
It's crazy, like what people will do for 10 bucks.
I don't know how to deal with that.
He's talking generally to the YouTube audience. The full plane people are all like, we've seen this.
We saw this two days ago. Oh, oh, he's talking about a weekend release for YouTube.
Why didn't Sammy have the- I don't know. Why didn't Sammy have the early releases on the full plane announcements?
No.
Yeah, anyway. All right, cool.
Oh, sorry, Dan, we can go back to check out messages.
Hey, Nat is going to any updates on the tech house?
Any fun or interesting things you want to include in the house?
Oh, man, I need to go there and just kind of
sit and meditate in the middle of the house for a while, because it's a really weird problem.
It's
it's large enough that it has like all the rooms.
You know what I mean? It's got a kitchen and like a spot for a kitchen table
and a family room and a dining room and a living room, right?
Like it has all the rooms and it's big enough for that,
but it's not really big enough that all of those rooms are like an ideal size.
The kitchen is really small. Gotcha. And so to expand the kitchen,
I actually think that it should get more of like a condo layout
where instead of having a formal dining room and also an eating area,
it should just be one. But unfortunately, because of the sunken living room,
where you would do that without the floor plan just being super weird
is not obvious. And now that we had to pay so much to get the asbestos removed,
I don't think our hypothetical homeowner, Guy,
even if I did feel like spending the money, if our hypothetical homeowner, Guy is trying to do things on a reasonable budget,
I think he's in a situation right now where he's kind of exceeded his budget.
And if he wanted to like expand the sunken living room or something,
like make a major change like that, it probably wouldn't be feasible.
So I want to try to find a way to make it make sense
where we don't have to make a major change, but just because like the kitchen's in this corner
and then you've got like a really small dining room and then you've got this like stairs down to the living room
and then over this way, you've got like your back door, like your back sliding door.
So you're sort of bounded on that side. And then you've got like a family room and it's like,
well, we can't go this way and we can go this way.
But unless we go this way like a lot, it's really weird.
And then also sorry, where is the dining area supposed to be?
Like I just I need to sit and I need to fester on it for a while.
Fester, yeah.
That's a choice. I have a ShortCircuit hoodie and I love it.
Why did you switch from cotton polyester spandex to 100% cotton
on most new hoodies, which new hoodies have lots of pockets
like the ShortCircuit hoodie?
Generally speaking, people sort of are of the mind
that more cotton content is more better. I like you do not necessarily agree
that it provides a better experience for me.
So trying to get away from micropostics, right?
No, no. And just in terms of just like quality, not necessarily even like ecological concerns.
The WAN hoodie though is the closest to the ShortCircuit hoodie
in terms of having like all the fun pockets and stuff.
Like here's a pocket on the ARM because I don't know, here's a pocket on the chest because we put a pocket there.
Here's a pocket in the back because we put a pocket there.
This is sort of the spiritual replacement for that.
Hit me, Dan. Hey Dan, Luke and Yvonne's husband.
You recently put out a video saying that RAM prices are going to be going down soon.
Assuming that's true, when are we expecting storage prices to do the same?
I mean, what I said was I think the worst may be over.
I don't know that they will in short order go down to where we started.
Nothing happens overnight. Like you won't, this increase didn't happen overnight
and a decrease won't happen overnight. So there's always a lag and with that in mind,
I don't think the worst has hit us yet for storage.
I wouldn't go out and buy a million dollars worth of SSDs
and hoping to flip them in four weeks or whatever because of that sort of intuition.
Like I wouldn't actually bet money on it, but I don't think the worst of it has yet hit us because
of how much later SSD prices started to skyrocket compared to RAM.
I also haven't seen any solid evidence that
there's anything that would ease storage demand.
I think there's a very, very strong incentive to
to find workarounds to just needing infinite memory.
Storage I'm not convinced has hit the point where it's costing so much that there's as much of an incentive.
It's still pretty bad, but yeah, for sure. I'm not talking about for consumers.
I'm talking about for the data center builders.
Amarilla in Philippine Chat was like, I wouldn't buy it right now.
I'm paraphrasing slightly. I'd sign a letter of intent to buy them.
Nice, solid. Hello, LLD.
Recently found out my 11 year old made an Instagram account.
Would love to hear Linus' approach to parental controls.
iOS screen time is mega broken and isn't cross-platform.
Any practical tips? This is a big part of my problem with Apple's approach.
They are not cross-platform.
I don't think FamilyLink is especially cross-platform on the Google side,
but I have found it to be, at least to my knowledge, reasonably reliable.
I'm pretty happy with it. It allows overall device management as well as per app management
in a way that I think is pretty darn intuitive.
I wouldn't recommend going and buying an Android phone in order to do that.
One of the things you could do is if you have a router that supports it,
you could check the services that are being utilized by your kids' phones IP.
I doubt they have the sophistication at 11 years old to install a VPN,
to obscure which apps and which websites they're using.
So that would be a way to keep an eye on it. There's always good old fashioned grounding.
Okay, you made this account without permission,
and you're using it after we talked about not using it. Guess what? You don't have a phone for some indeterminate period of time.
At the end of the day, though, it comes down to your relationship with your kid.
That's what you got to manage. And not even your relationship with your kid, your relationship with that human.
They're only going to be 11 for less than a year, and they're only going to be not an adult
for just over half of the time that they've existed again, right?
So good luck, parenting is hard.
At Linus, what are you thinking for for your next car after the take-in?
I don't know. It took me like 10 years to upgrade from a clapped out Civic.
Tycan seems pretty good.
Second Tycan. What about second Tycan?
How about a BYD?
One of those 10,000 horsepower ones.
Probably carry the Tycan in it. I think I could be convinced by the Yang Wang U9.
Yang Wang is awesome. Heck yeah, that looks hot.
Dude, have you rode in Linus's Wang yet? It's a Yang Wang, sir.
Not a Wang, okay. Number Wang.
I don't know. It looks pretty cool, and it's not as expensive as you would think.
How much is this thing? Yeah, 236,000 US dollars.
Man, Linus is not as expensive as you would think. It's always like, oh god.
Yeah, but it's a hyper car. It costs like two million US dollars.
It's still, it's also a USD, so it's like 42 million Canadian dollars.
Hopefully not for long. It's not as much as you would expect for other vehicles in that performance class,
with Gullwing doors, with all the like super angular styling and stuff.
Like it's priced like a Chinese car compared to the Western alternatives,
but like a top tier hyper car. It's, there's cheaper places to get way.
Stay The Path says it looks like a Corvette shrug. I actually, I don't think that's true.
What? I don't agree with that either. Dude.
C8 Corvettes? I think they look pretty cool.
I, I, unironically like the Z06 or Z6.
This is the newest. Yeah, like this thing, I just don't, I don't like it.
I don't like it's butt. You don't like it's butt?
I think it looks sweet. I like the butt. Yeah. I like the, I, I love the butt.
Sorry. What made it? I gotta disagree. What mid-year?
Is this the 2023? Oh, that looks, yeah. That looks good.
2026 looks good. Yeah. Okay, I'm gonna take it back.
All right. Good. Chat doesn't like it.
That's fine. You don't have to buy one. I also don't have to buy one.
I don't think I could go back to internal combustion at this point. I don't know if my car is ever gonna die, so.
Yeah, I, okay. It might not matter.
What would it take? I'm thinking, I'm sizing you up.
Every once in a while, there will be like, someone will almost T-bone me or something.
And I don't flash through my head of like, oh my God, am I gonna have to buy another car?
What, what happened? And then it doesn't happen.
And I'm like, oh, cool. Car's still fine.
I don't think you will literally ever replace it.
If I don't have to, I probably won't. I think the only thing that would cause you to replace it
would be if you had a repair bill
that was more than the sticker value of the car. I think that's, I think that's the only way.
That's what happened last time. Yeah. That's what happened the only other time I replaced a car.
If that happened. If that happened, what would you, what would you get?
This is one of the reasons why whenever I almost get whacked by someone not paying attention,
it flashes through my mind is cause I don't really know.
Right. I don't really know. I would, man, I would be so happy if Acura was making
plug-in hybrid TL variants, but they're just not.
Yeah. Honda and Toyota seem to be like publicly melting down
right now about how weird, like doomed they are
if they don't immediately change everything.
To be clear, I think there's a long-term market for plug-in hybrids.
And I think them, like if China is just going to completely
own the electric car market, which they might, maybe not in America,
but they might pretty much everywhere else. I think them being like Japan is the plug-in hybrid market.
I think they could do really well. But I don't know anything about any of that.
So don't listen to me. But yeah, it just makes me sad that like, I really like the,
I don't know what you want to call it. I really like the idea of my car. I feel very comfortable in that car.
Tim03. Like that a lot. Says, okay, you're cheap, but like, what about saving money
over time because of gas costs? Okay, so here's the thing.
He doesn't drive that much. Yeah. And that's why his car is never going to die.
Yeah. Like anything that's like this date or mileage,
whichever one comes first, it's always the date.
That car has literally never hit the mileage count before the date.
And I have done like road trips down to Portland and back.
Still not going to hit the mileage first. Yeah.
Yeah. And I really like the look of the new TLXs and stuff.
But would you get the same model year and make?
Oh, right. They don't even do it anymore. Yeah. 2025 is the last year, I guess.
Yeah. But now they do integras and the integras are pretty sweet too.
Like it's not the technical like type R.
It's S for this generation.
Or do they have an R of the Integra? I have no idea.
They had a type R of the, I think it was like TLX 2023 or something.
And that was a sweet looking car. Damn.
Damn. But yeah, they're just still fully iced, I believe.
Is this the one you're talking about? TLX type S?
No. Oh, okay. Well, not the one that Dan's talking about. I think that's also a different brand.
Got it. But yeah, I would be very interested.
I've been sitting here twirling my thumbs like, oh, they'll totally make one that's a plug-in hybrid eventually
and then I'll wait for it to be used for a bunch of years and then I'll get one.
And they just won't do it. So I'm not 100% sure, to be honest.
All right, here we go, Dan. Hey, litmus-duke and flan.
Artemis Mission Photos are releasing and have brought people together.
Do you remember a piece of media that had a profound impact on you
or inspired you to dream bigger?
Ooh, dream. Ooh, okay. My first thought was not dream bigger necessarily.
How about inspired you? Or how about profound impact?
Profound impact and brought people together. I think it's really hard to ignore.
Lord of the Rings. Okay. I'm just answering for you.
That didn't add that much for me. That isn't what I was going to say, but that's fantastic.
I like that. I was going to say the original launch of Pokemon Go.
If you want to talk about brought people together, like, holy,
it was years where if you saw people walking around in groups outside on their phones,
it was like- You just point and nod. Even now it's like still a thing.
It's decently popular still. It's not where it was, but it's been out for over 10 years.
So the fact that it's still as popular as this is crazy. For me, an impact on me in particular,
I mean, I saw Puget Systems at Pax with a mineral computer,
and that's what inspired me to make my own.
Watching the making of, I think it was Morrowind,
and the making of the original Halo were like super impactful and wanting to
get me into software development.
Yeah, there's tons of stuff, man. It has been really interesting. Like there was three plus million people.
I think at one point in time there's over five million people just watching
just the streams on NASA's YouTube account,
not even all of the other people reacting to it, all of the other space channels putting up their own feeds, all that kind of stuff.
There was many, many millions of people watching the Artemis launch, landing,
everything in between, and looking at the chat as divided as the world is right now,
looking at the chat on YouTube, which is often like a pool of-
Wretched hive of scum and villainy. There we go, that's the quote I was looking for,
like quite literally, but it's usually so bad, but it was really just people talking about how awesome this was,
and like posting their country's flag, and being like watching from here or there or whatever,
like this is so awesome, look at what we can all do.
Really awesome moment, anyways. This is gonna, you know, probably upset someone,
but I don't really feel that bad about it, but I think that Prime Minister Carney's recent speech was-
The Davos speech? Yeah, was the first time that I really felt like
Canadian politician in my adult lifetime
actually understood the problems that we have here,
and actually had some semblance of not just a plan,
but the will to try to at least solve them.
There's one line in particular that I've used multiple times,
and that's nostalgia is not a strategy.
I think that at times in my life, I've spent, I mean, I suspect we're probably all guilty of this sometimes,
but I've spent too much time looking to the past for our solutions,
and they're just not gonna be there.
Yeah, I've shown people on many parts of the political spectrum,
including people that would generally be against him. I've shown them that speech, and pretty much everyone has been like, damn.
Yeah, even people that don't necessarily like him or whatever else.
It's a good speech. Last one I got for you today, greetings, Linus, and the one on the right.
What's a computer product that is super necessary, but it's very useful to have?
Ah, I'm gonna, the one on the right's gonna answer this one first.
Nice, solid. I still love it, man, power play.
And I've heard the new one is worse or something,
like I heard power play two is worse than power play one. Then use the old one. I don't know why.
That's never happened ever. I haven't looked into it at all because my power play one still is completely awesome and fine.
It's just great. And yeah, the default mousepad is too small.
I just put an LTT desk mat over it and ditched the default mousepad, just tossed it.
And it's totally fine. That's a good answer.
It's awesome. They are expensive.
It's a luxury item for sure, but I'm kind of surprised I don't see them more often.
Because they're just sweet. I haven't plugged in my mouse in years and I haven't swapped the batteries ever.
It's awesome.
I'm going to go with my AirPods. They are not necessary.
I could use, I could use wired.
I could use over the ears. When I'm, you know, doing a data center tour or whatever,
I could take the little squishy ear things.
But man, I use them every day, literally every single day I use my AirPods.
They aren't necessary, but I absolutely love them.
I wish the, I wish the threes, the three pros were as comfortable as the two pros for me.
They still, like I still haven't managed to mold my ears to them.
But the, the superior active noise cancellation is just
it's unavoidably better and worth it after,
after the amount of time that I've spent with them now.
I have run out. You have run out. What do you mean you've run out?
You're right there. Thanks.
We'll see you again next week. Same bad time. Same bad channel.
Wait, no, no, no, a different channel. Okay. So hold on. We may need to change up the strategy.
I didn't yell it so it's fine. We may need to change up the strategy for switching to streaming to the WAN Show channel.
Yeah. People are migrating faster than I expected.
Oh. There's like 2,500 people the last time I checked that we're watching on the WAN Show channel
rather than on the LTT channel and people are getting like double notifications and stuff.
We like need to deal with this. Do we either, do we just do the thing that you suggested, which I'm aligned with,
or do we pull the audience for what they want? Basically, we're trying to fit, we, it's like, we agree.
We got to split it up. So do we keep the channel that's there as the clips channel and move the live stream
again somewhere else or do we?
I'm not asking them that. Let's take it offline.
Let's, you and I talk about it. So we're moving the clip channel somewhere else. I'm fine with either one.
Well, okay. There's other voices internally that point at other video podcast channels that do have the
podcast and the clips all in the same channel. And what apparently happens over time is if you only click the live stream and you never
click the clips, you will stop getting the clips because YouTube is all algorithmic now.
So let's, let's talk about it. Let's you, me and James get together and be nice if it can be one.
Sit down. I would like for it to be one channel. That would be much simpler from just an IP management standpoint.
Totally. Okay. We'll figure it out. We'll see you again next week.
We hear you though. We know it sucks at the WAN Show channel and more enthusiastically this time.
Bye.