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No, the audio is just extremely quiet because they're like, you know, not at their desks.

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Sorry, guys.

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My bad. Nothing I can do about that.

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Can they hear us at all?

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Sort of not really. Hello! What's up, floaters?

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What are you all doing? If you yell, probably.

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Hi!

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Hi! Hi, Mom!

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Hi, Mom!

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Hi, Mom!

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Okay, so, uh, are we going?

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How are you feeling, Mr. Besser? Ready, Mr. Besser?

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I think I'm ready.

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That's pretty sad.

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You do pay me money to be here.

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Hey, Flo Blaine, are you ready?

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We'll see you in a minute.

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Bye.

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Hey, where are you? I'm here for you.

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Is that you? Yeah.

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Hey, you can't do that. What are you doing?

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I'm here to see you. I'm here to see you.

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I'm here to see you. But I'm not ready.

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Well, I'm not ready. What do you want me to do? I'm here to see you.

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I'm here to see you. I'm here to see you. Hey,ира!

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Hey, I'm here to see you. Hey, I'm here to see you. Let's go! Let's go!

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It's not a drill!

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Oh.

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We're going to be talking about April Fools this year. It was an incredible effort from the entire team, especially one Mr. David Gauthier.

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We're also going to be talking about the emergency for your wallet that is the Nintendo Switch 2 launch.

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$450 for a Nintendo console? Unheard of. Or is it?

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We're also going to be talking about China mass-producing coin-sized nuclear batteries and something, tariffs? Intel and TSMC? Working together? Joint partnership? Something.

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We'll talk about something else. I just got to find that thing.

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Nice. I think my mic is broken.

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Oh no. Shit.

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Let me do this. The show is brought to you today by Squarespace, Forum, Notion, and of course our usual RAP partner, Dbrand, our laptop partner, Dell, and our chair partner.

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They're there. There's cushions in the front window.

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Nice. Nice. Our chair partner secret lab. Let's go. I'm just going to turn this off now.

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Where is it? I think it's probably easier if you open the door.

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Oh lordy. There you go.

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I was thinking you could do, I don't know if you'd want to, but you could do a mod where you swap in secret lab chairs.

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Yeah, we could do that, but I think that's not going to be on the agenda for today.

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Let's go ahead and jump right into our first topic, which I think has got to be the Nintendo Switch 2 launch.

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Now, obviously there's no way that you, Nintendo fanboy that you are, are going to be missing a Nintendo Direct.

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So what were your impressions before they started talking about all the icky price details?

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I thought it was pretty cool. I did skip through it. I didn't actually watch the whole thing.

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I thought the camera, it might get some use, but that doesn't seem like a huge killer feature to me.

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I think having chat, however, really bad sounding, I don't know if you noticed that,

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but I think having chat built into the console is probably good if they weren't going to try to do a partnership with external chat programs like Discord or whatever else.

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The dock actually having performance implications, like the dock having a fan in it,

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which could help keep the system cool, which could help keep performance high seems genuinely actually pretty cool.

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And the launch titles seem pretty strong. Mario Kart World, I don't know how excited I am about like free roam driving in Mario Kart.

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I don't know if I care about that at all, to be completely honest.

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But the game does look pretty cool. It seems like it supports a lot of players.

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I like some of the new modes that they're talking about, and considering the Switch's Mario Kart was just a rehash of the Mario Kart from the Wii U,

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it's been kind of a hot minute since we've had an actually genuinely new Mario Kart game.

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So that's cool. That's exciting.

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Okay. Why don't we talk about the awkward details?

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Do you know what it says? Actually, I mean, should we do a bit more of a roundup of everything that we know about the Switch 2 so far?

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Sure. Based on the rumored specs from earlier leaks, which still seem to probably be accurate,

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we're expecting a semi-custom 5nm variant of the Tegra T239.

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So eight ARM cores, one of which is high performance, three of which are performance,

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and four of which are efficiency cores, 12 gigs of LPDDR5X at 7500 megatransiters per second.

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So that is fast memory. I was surprised to see how much local storage it's getting.

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256 gigs, like typically Nintendo has been very Apple-like in their hardware.

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I shouldn't say typically. I mean, the Wii U was a pretty decent little piece of kit for the price.

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Yeah. But the Switch, which is the most recent example, was ancient when it was released,

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extremely ungenerous in terms of specifications, whereas this time around 256 gigs of storage.

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And now that we've seen the sizes of some of these games,

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it looks like while you can expand it with a microSD card,

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a lot of people probably won't need to, especially at the cost of the games,

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but we'll get to the cost of the games in a sec.

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The big highlight is, of course, the new Ampere GPU, 1536 CUDA cores, 12 SMs,

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8th Gen and Venkin coding hardware, RTX ray tracing support,

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and, of course, Gen3 tensor cores that are going to enable AI upscaling.

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I don't see anything about AI frame generation.

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NVIDIA did say in a blog post that the Switch 2 has 10 times the graphics performance of the OG.

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There was a tweet from the head of DLSS about there being DLSS on the Switch.

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But not necessarily frame Gen. No, okay, I see what you mean.

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So that's what I don't know. What I will say is that I was looking as closely as I could,

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considering that we were dealing with, you know, YouTube compression, right?

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I was looking as closely as I could at some of the gameplay footage,

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and I didn't see personally any of the telltale signs of frame generation,

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even though it'd be pretty much impossible to tell what degree of AI upscaling they're doing

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if we're looking at performance upscaling or quality level upscaling.

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And I suspect that's going to vary depending on the title, especially for third-party titles.

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Voice chat, man, okay.

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I think it's good. I wish it was with third-party providers,

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but I kind of understand from a family-friendly standpoint that it might be more controllable if it's not.

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So tell me this. How do you feel about the fact that, and as far as I can tell,

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as far as I can tell, it seems like the chat function doesn't work unless you have a subscription.

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So you hadn't caught that. Okay, I didn't either prior to our video.

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Does that make sense? Is there any online multiplayer on the Switch without a subscription?

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I have to confess, I have never subscribed to Nintendo Online out of principle.

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Me too. I didn't actually know that, but yeah, I haven't either.

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No. No, you need to have Nintendo Online.

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Yeah, so that kind of makes sense then.

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So if you're doing anything online, you're going to have a subscription anyways.

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Oh, no, no, no, it's worse than that.

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According to the mighty Reptar, it is free to all Nintendo Online subscribers for the first year.

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Wait, chat's an additional fee? Then chat is apparently going to go behind a paywall.

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So then they're going to just keep doing what everyone that I know has been doing,

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which is where you discord on your phone. Yeah.

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And just play games on your Switch. Because why pay more for Nintendo Chat?

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That's crazy. Ooh, that's rough. Some people will do it.

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So, man, we're almost, we're not quite there in terms of going through all the interesting stuff,

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but we're getting lots of people discussing this in the chat, so I want to talk about this as well.

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Wait, where'd it go? Oh, no, no, where'd it go?

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Where'd it go? People are asking where Dan is. Do you want to do the reveal now or should we do it?

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Yeah, we'll do the reveal later when we talk about merge messages.

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It's pretty cool though. When we talk about merge messages.

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Oh, shoot. Well, I missed it. Oh, yes, no, I remember.

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Okay, as someone who also, so my on principle for not subscribing to Nintendo Online,

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because I'll subscribe to subscription services.

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I have subscription services. But for me, the one that really upset me and that made me unwilling to give the money for it

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was the fact that they lock my save game backups behind Nintendo Online.

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That's complete BS. We are talking about a console that literally has an SD card slot in the front of it.

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There is absolutely no technological reason why I couldn't back up my save game data

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to the same physical media that I could easily put a game onto.

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You have got to be kidding me. And my understanding is that is still how it works.

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If that is not how it works anymore, then I would consider subscribing to Nintendo Online

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for some of the cool stuff that it has. But that is completely, completely uncool for a device that A, you know, is not perfect,

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could fail, right? And therefore could lose my save games and B is portable and much more likely to be lost

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than something like a living room console.

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So there's a bunch of people posting corrections, but it's really not that different than what we said.

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They're saying important correction, questionable.

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Game Chat is included in all Nintendo Online chat subscriptions and is free for all users until March of 2026.

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So it's just free for a little bit longer than we said.

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Okay, all right. It's still a pre-description after that. That is a good distinction.

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That is a good distinction. It is something that I actually missed in the initial with I had other stuff to do that day

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and I'm usually being briefed on like multiple things a day.

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So I missed that. Hold on. People are saying it's not extra on top.

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I don't get that. Yeah. So it's included with Nintendo Online, but free for everyone for until March next year.

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But so you can get live chat but not Nintendo Online.

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So you can't play games together, but you have to get Nintendo Online and they're bundled.

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It sounds like they're just bundled. So speaking of Nintendo Online, what is your reason for not subscribing to Nintendo Online?

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It feels a little ridiculous to me and I don't actually know what the current state of online multiplayer is on the other consoles.

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I have no interest in it in any of the other consoles at all.

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The only reason why I'd be interested in console games at this point is single player ones.

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But it feels ridiculous to me in 2025 to have to pay a subscription to be able to play any game online at all.

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Like that's enough of a line for me.

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And again, if I want something, I'll pay a subscription. The most interesting thing to me, I guess, has been access to some of their games that they put on that service.

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But then I don't like paying subscriptions to access games either.

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I'd rather just buy it. Okay.

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So. So. I don't know.

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Nintendo's strategy for combating scalpers.

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Involves gating pre-orders to people who have 12 months of Nintendo Online in their history.

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Is it actually? Oh, you did not watch the Direct?

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I skimmed it. Oh, you missed a lot.

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I didn't know that was a thing. Yeah.

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So. And there's more.

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And 50 hours of gameplay.

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Hmm. They are prioritized, but not necessarily gated guys.

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Basically, you know what that means, right? So is this the guys who are going to get one?

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Is this pre-orders directly from Nintendo?

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I believe there's no way they're placing that for game stores.

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Yep. Yep. So this is pretty flipping wild.

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So this is pre-orders on their website. So basically, because they're, okay, look, how is anybody else going to control scalpers from buying cartloads of these things?

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Like we know we've all, we've all seen the pictures from previous console launches, from GPU launches, right?

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We've seen the scalpers that have literally a palette of consoles in their living room, right?

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So anything that's going out into the channel through Best Buy or through other retailers is going to be scalped.

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So the ones that Nintendo is controlling.

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They are basically saying, look, you've got to have a Nintendo online subscription for 12 months.

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You've got to have 50 gameplay hours before the launch here.

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And I don't remember if there was any, if there was any other stuff.

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Gameplay hours like lifetime? I think I, I'm not sure the time period for it.

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I think it's lifetime. Basically, the idea is that you are a Nintendo gamer and also that you give Nintendo money on an ongoing basis.

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I want to show one thing, final correction, because I did, it did sound like this,

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but I don't think this is what we said.

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Game Chat is included with Nintendo Switch Online membership. Like we said, Game Chat open access period until March 31st, 2026.

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But it says Game Chat can be used without a Nintendo Switch Online membership during that time period.

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Afterwards, a Nintendo Switch Online membership will be required to use Game Chat.

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So yeah, you don't have to, which is really weird to me.

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So basically they will, they want to get you hooked on.

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Do you play single player games together in chat?

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Um, yeah, I guess.

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I guess. Yeah, I guess. Okay, yeah, no, yeah.

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Now I am happy. That's why I said it's weird because you don't need Nintendo Switch Online, which is odd.

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So you can't play games together as far as mine are saying it goes.

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There's game streaming. So it has a camera.

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Okay, so you could show someone you playing your game. Yes.

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So if you're on a trip and little man is playing a game.

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Yeah. You could like watch him play the game and talk to him.

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I guess. I guess. I guess.

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I can't imagine that I would do that. For the four people that will do that.

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So anyway, anyway, I was, we're finally getting to this.

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What is your thought? What is your thought on the fact that you cannot pre-order one?

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That you are not a verified actual gamer in Nintendo's eyes for not buying Nintendo Online?

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I already, this is going to sound like a hot take at first and then it's not, but I already wasn't going to.

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Really? My reason for it. Okay, hold on.

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We're going to get to that in a sec then. So let's finish going through.

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Okay, sure. You know what? It's way less of a hot take.

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Okay. All right. Hit me.

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Willow Video Games. Yes. Isn't getting an initial shipment as far as my understanding goes.

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Really? Nothing? They're not prioritized because they're a single store.

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And apparently who's getting prioritized at least in Canada as far as my understanding goes is the big places with multiple locations.

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Sure. So they like, they might get a first shipment, but as of right now, they are confident that they're getting games, but they are not confident that they're getting consoles.

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And there's no way. They were all apologetic and they were like, oh, like, sorry, you can go buy it somewhere else, I guess.

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And I was like, no. Yeah.

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I'm just going to say that you're buying a game console from somewhere other than Willow Video.

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Yeah. So I'm just going to wait until they have them.

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And then I will buy one then. I don't need it day one.

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Yep. I will support the store that I want to support.

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I will support the like mom and pop store that does cool stuff and has been doing cool stuff like the whole time I've been alive.

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I've been going to Willow since I was a small child.

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So I'm not going to just go throw my money somewhere else because I can get a console a couple of weeks earlier.

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I thought you were going to say that you are not going to buy a Switch 2.

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And that I would have been very surprised about, even though I do think that there are a lot of good reasons not to buy a Switch 2.

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This one surprised me. There is a few, yeah.

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The Switch 2 is apparently going to be using something between a software emulator and hardware compatibility to play Switch 1 games.

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There are currently 141 Switch 1 games with known startup issues and 47 ones with in-game issues on the new handheld.

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There are also games that will likely never work as the Joy-Con 2 is a different shape than the original like Ring Fit.

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And it doesn't include an IR motion camera.

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For example, WarioWare Move It.

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Could you do the new standalone camera that they're selling?

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For WarioWare? Ring Fit is probably screwed because the ring doesn't mount the controllers like the new one does.

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Ring Fit also looks like a mobile game from like the iPhone 3.

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So I don't think it really matters on that one.

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Okay, let's talk about the price.

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$450.

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It's a lot. It's interesting because if you look at...

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Atriok did this recently, but if you look at the game prices back to like Xbox 360 era, the pricing inflationary-wise as much as it sucks is technically below inflation rate.

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It's kind of incredible that it's as low as it is.

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The console, however, is super not. The Switch 2 is notably more expensive than the Switch 1.

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Then the Switch 1, yes. But...

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Not necessarily consoles in general. I have a hot take.

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I want to talk about Switch 2 pricing because I think that millennials and Gen Zs are having a bit of a,

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well, back in my day, games used to cost six brown eggs and a bale of hay moment right now.

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They did. It's true.

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When I was a kid, the Super Nintendo was $199.

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That is approximately $450 in today dollars.

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Now, there is a big difference this time.

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For these younger generations, earnings haven't advanced on pace with that inflationary jump

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that basically makes the Switch 2 look perfectly reasonable compared to the Super Nintendo.

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I mean, the NES, back in the 1980s, what was the NES?

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Was the NES $200 as well? I believe so. Don't quote me on that, but I believe the NES was too.

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The NES was flipping expensive in then dollars.

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$179 USD on launch.

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Cost for inflation would be $523 USD.

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Honestly, I think the inflation argument is really tough because you have to consider the emotional side of it.

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The inflation of what? The inflation of what? Because when you talk about inflation, there's a whole bunch of different factors.

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A lot of the things that get factored into the inflation calculation that we get when we look online impact different people disproportionately.

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So, I think what's hurting so much is that this impacts the younger generation harder because it is a more significant part of A, their lifestyle and B, their discretionary spending.

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The lifestyle one is an interesting and probably accurate take.

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Because as an older millennial at this point, I look at a console as a luxury item.

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I have never owned a PlayStation.

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Never. Even today, I do not own a PlayStation.

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I have never owned an Xbox.

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When I was a kid, my friend had a NES and then I had a SNES.

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So, we'd go to his house to play. Then we started going to my house to play and he got an N64 for Christmas.

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So, then we'd go play at his house unless realistically we wanted to play something other than the two game carts that he had for the N64.

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Then we'd go play some of my older SNES games.

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I cried when my dad gave us an Xbox for Christmas.

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Dude, when I was a kid, consoles were a luxury item.

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Not everyone had one in my class and no one, not a single other kid I knew, had two current-gen consoles at the same time.

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A typical game library was like five games if you were doing pretty good.

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Yeah, a lot of people had less. And if you had like ten games, it was like...

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You were balling. It made me question what your parents did for work.

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But hold on, but here's another thing. Here's another thing that's different.

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Back then, we could go to the video store. And rent.

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And we could rent a game. And I do it all the time. For five bucks.

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Yeah. Right? And you could realistically, you know, because so many of the games were, let's be honest, pretty two-dimensional experiences pun intended.

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Right? Oh, we have a ding!

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I didn't actually know. Did you hear it? I wasn't sure.

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Yeah, I heard it. I heard it. I don't know if they did, but I heard it.

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I actually enjoy that game in a one-week rental for that five dollars.

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And that was honestly, this is a slightly off-topic thing, that was fun.

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It was kind of a challenge. Can I beat this game before I have to return it?

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Yeah, absolutely. It was genuinely like kind of fun.

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I forgot about that. But I'm going to continue going back and forth in my attempt to sort of present both sides of this.

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I was going to say, I was trying to say argument, but outrage almost came out of my mouth.

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Both of which are true. It is an argument and it is outrageous.

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And let me kind of, let me put it this way.

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Pound for pound is gaming not just about the cheapest form of entertainment on the face of the earth.

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So here's some numbers that I ran before the show, okay?

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If you bought a Switch for $300 and a library of $10, $60 games, I'd say that's a pretty generous library.

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If you used that for even one hour per week for the eight years that the Nintendo Switch was Nintendo's current console,

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it would have cost you just over $2 an hour.

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Can you think of anything in your life that you actually pay for that is even close to that?

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No, and I bet you you were honestly really conservative with that.

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You know what? A workman says reading is cheaper, especially with a library card.

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That's a good point. And that's that's valid. What else?

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With a library card, yes. If you're buying the books, honestly, I don't think so.

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No, if you're buying books, absolutely. Well, I don't think so.

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It depends. No, no, you can get you can get decent deals.

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And depending on the speed at which you read, no offense for me, I suspect your cost per hour is pretty good.

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I've been I've been dedicating really hard. Like an hour a day every day for a while now.

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And yeah, I I'm getting a little faster, but I'm still slow.

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Okay, give me give me something else. Give me something other than reading music, but like, dang, I would never really want to do just that.

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Yeah. Yeah. So here.

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Oh, this is hilarious. Top Gear 1224 says we're going to talk about smash champs pricing.

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Actually, we are. Yeah. Actually, we are here.

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Check this out. Check this out. And it's a good point.

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That is. Oh, Luke laptop. Whoops.

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There you go. There you go. We are going to talk about that at smash champs.

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Okay. That's our badminton center.

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I regularly watch people discard a $3 badminton shuttle.

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That's about what a single badminton shuttle costs.

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And that's not even a high end one. They can go up to four plus Canadian dollars.

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Okay. I regularly watch people just throw it away because it isn't flying perfectly so that they continue to they can continue their match.

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That's costing them between the four people on court about $8.50 an hour plus racket and shoes and other equipment costs plus their club membership fee plus gas money for travel.

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They don't question it because they see the work being put into it.

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They see the physical space being occupied.

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If we subswitch two numbers into my math before.

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Okay. And if we assume a shorter lifespan for the console, let's say it's only, let's say we only get six years out of it.

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We end up with $4.32 per hour of entertainment.

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Yeah. But you're still going off of one hour a week, which I honestly think is really low.

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I know. Yeah. I know.

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That assumes. Like low enough to throw it all off. Well, yeah.

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But my point is that even if we say, well, Linus, your math is suspect, I feel like by saying you will use your switch just one hour per week.

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Yeah. I bet I can, I can pretty much defend against that because if you're not going to use your switch an hour per week, why do you even care about any of this?

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Don't buy one. Like that just seems pretty obvious to me or, or remember guys, there's always another way.

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Okay. This was, this was a really.

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Yeah. This was a really, I don't know, interesting conversation for me, frustrating conversation to me.

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I don't know how to describe the mixed emotions that I had.

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And I'm about to say something that will probably cost me some money.

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All right. There was a thread on the forum recently asking why the heck it is that Floatplane doesn't have regional pricing.

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Okay. Why, why we're asking a ludicrous sum of five US dollars per month for people who live somewhere where that is a significant portion of their disposable income.

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Okay. That's a little disposable income they have.

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And I basically, I could have given them a long technical explanation about, you know, VPNs and gray market and the realities that our business runs on, you know, Western monies, not, you know, rubles or whatever.

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And so, you know, like it, it wouldn't even help our costs.

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Like our costs are in Western monies and we don't operate at the kind of scale of someone like a YouTube or a Netflix.

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I could have, I could have done a whole thing about that.

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But instead, what I said was, why don't you subscribe to Floatplane for one month, download every video you want to watch and then unsubscribe and then do it again next year.

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People don't stop you from doing that. People gotta, people gotta get more creative.

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It's like, like, I don't understand why people are not thinking about, like if you, if you can't, if something is not affordable.

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Okay. If you tell, if you told kid me, okay, I'm, I'm, I'm 14, I'm 15.

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Okay. You told kid me, hey, this new console is $450.

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I'm going to go, okay. What are the games I want to play?

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And I'm going to go, all right. Can I still buy used games?

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Okay. I'm going to wait for, usually it takes like a week or two because people will run out, people with more money than cents will run out and buy a game, not having read a single review, not having watched any gameplay footage.

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Play it, not like it. Play it, not like it and they'll take it back to GameStop.

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All right. That's their problem. That's not your problem.

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That's your benefit. Yeah. So you wait a little bit, you pick up a console used from someone who bought it and realized, oh, actually, I don't use this that much.

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You wait a little bit. When you buy something secondhand, the worst of the depreciation curve that comes off by the, from the first owner.

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So you basically, you buy that console, you play those couple of games, you flip them.

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It didn't happen for free. Okay.

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You had to actually shell out that money. You had that cash tied up.

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It affects your cash flow and you might not get back exactly what you paid, but it's a Nintendo.

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You know for a fact that there isn't going to be a new one six months from now.

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So if you were to, if you were to buy one secondhand for, you know, two months in, you know for a fact that you could hold on to it for a few months.

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Play the games you want to play and it'll probably cost you total somewhere in the neighborhood of like 50 to 75 bucks in depreciation on those purchases.

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Get creative. Yeah.

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I don't have much to add. Just yeah.

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Like I, you can also even like, if you wait a little bit longer, you can wait till there's like cool models on the use market.

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Somebody mentioned like, oh, but GameStop isn't going to exist.

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It's like, okay, cool. Cut out the middle man. Go to Facebook Marketplace.

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Go to Facebook Marketplace. Yeah. It's not a stopper.

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And I know that, I know that, you know, not everyone has a super active Facebook Marketplace in their region or whatever else, but where there is something being bought and something being sold, there will be a platform.

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KG4WN, I think that's your name, said that's a decent way to do it, but if everyone did it, the system would fail.

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Fun fact, guaranteed, not everyone will do it.

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Yes. Because not everyone is as smart as you, or not everyone cares as much as you.

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Like the, I remember, I remember, I'm not going to name names on this one, but I remember having this conversation with a relative of mine who, who I grew up with.

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We grew up, not like desperately poor, but we grew up with like cutting coupons, washing eggs in our spare time and running like a family, like egg business on our hobby farm, like, like being pretty scrappy.

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There's a lot of benefit to that. By the end of the summer, we were, my parents are both teachers.

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Okay. So by the end of the summer, we're trying to figure out like, okay, do we really need to,

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how to combine as many errands as possible into one car trip to town so that we don't have to fill the gas tank?

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Like we're out of money. Okay. At the, at the end of August, beginning of September.

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So that's, that was my, that was my situation.

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And shoot, what did you say just before this?

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I forget.

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Right, right, right, right, right. A relative of mine. I remember having a conversation with a relative of mine who was like aggressively haggling at like a liquidation place or like a second hand, like a value village type of place.

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Like they were trying to like get a deal on something and I kind of went, I'll never be too good to shop at a dollar store.

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All right. Like never. Yeah, 100%.

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But does someone else maybe need that, that marked down merchandise a little more than us?

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Like do we need to, do we need to grind them so hard?

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Right? Yeah. I feel this way.

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Oh man. So, so, so, so I'll tell you guys, I'm just going to, I'm going to buy a switch too.

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I'm not going to pay scalper prices. I won't do that because again, that's our principle, but I'm just going to, I'm going to wait till it's in stock in a store.

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And I'm going to walk in and I'm going to buy it. And I'm not going to, I'm not going to worry about that.

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And if, you know, if my impulse purchase that I can afford benefits someone else later, then great.

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Someone at our Christmas party got my launch switch because I didn't need it anymore because I bought an OLED and I'm a big idiot.

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And I didn't consider that I had a launch switch that was moddable.

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Realistically, I buy all my Nintendo games now anyway. So it didn't really matter, but still, but, but still, you know,

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now somebody has a moddable one. Dang it. I had a moddable one, but now someone else has a moddable one.

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And so, no, not everyone is going to, not everyone is going to use these strategies.

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With that said, that's a really good point that if, if a growing number, if a disproportionate number of people do use these strategies,

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it actually does have an impact on the second hand market and look no further than what happened to the auto market during COVID.

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Where used vehicles suddenly cost more than a new vehicle.

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Like, what was that? Also, Brace, that could be happening again.

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We're going to have a tariff conversation a little bit later.

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That's the other part of the title of the show. We'll talk about that later.

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People are also mentioning this in relation to the switch because it was announced at whatever, 450 or I think it was 499 with Mario Kart World.

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But people are pointing out that Nintendo has already put out an announcement saying that I think they're not doing pre-orders in the US.

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Well, their, their, their pre-order date is delayed.

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Got it. The launch date is not delayed, but the pre-order date is delayed and they were explicit that this is because of their need to evaluate the situation around the tariffs.

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And I'm not recommending you do this, but Canada isn't going to have tariffs on them.

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So it should probably still be about that price up here. And I think if something was used, you could bring it back over the board.

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It wouldn't be tariffed. Oh yeah.

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Right. Like if, like if say for example, all of the packaging.

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Do at your own risk. Found its way into the, the dumpster behind the little video where you bought it.

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Had some say, yeah, maybe if you had some save games on it already or something.

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Yeah. You could prove that you've used it before. Yeah, yeah.

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I mean, it's pretty new anyway. Like, you know, you would have had to get it like somewhere kind of in the last little while window.

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It would look pretty new regardless, right? Yeah, I don't know.

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I mean, we would never, we would never, uh, live and says all strategies are valid until you get audited.

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What do you mean audited? No one audits, no one audits things you bought.

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That's, uh, cause it's, it's, there's no taxation.

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We're not really suggesting anything. We're just saying it's, it's probably going to be not as bad for, I mean, it's still expensive, but it's not as bad for Canadians.

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Yeah. Electrobot says, uh, IRC, you do have to report that technically, legally.

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Of course you do. Yes. This is not legal advice.

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Make sure you do that. No, this is not only not legal advice. This is not advice at all.

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Yeah. It's not advice. Yeah.

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All we're doing is pointing out that Canada is not terrifying them.

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We, that is true. Yeah. That is true.

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And, and, and if you didn't happen to live anywhere near the northern border, um, uh, I don't,

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I doubt that Mexico has any tariffs on- Probably not.

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The Switch 2 either. I, I have no idea what, like, Mexican Best Buy is.

00:38:51.000 --> 00:38:54.000
Yeah. But they might have something like that. Yeah.

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That would have a Nintendo Switch. So that's something that is a thing that is something.

00:38:59.000 --> 00:39:04.000
Anyway. Uh, game upgrades.

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Should we talk about that? Let's talk about game upgrades.

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Uh, this is another thing that, um, ah, man, I'm bummed about.

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So we talked about the sort of emulator element.

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See, I, I assumed, and maybe this is just me being naive because I'm sure the software

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is so different. Um, and by software, I don't even just mean like the home screen looks different.

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You know, I mean, like the, the driver level operation of this console is going to be so

00:39:33.000 --> 00:39:37.680
different. I'm sure that the software development kit is completely different.

00:39:37.680 --> 00:39:42.160
I'm sure all the developer tools are completely different, but I had kind of hoped that because

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it was RM CPU, NVIDIA GPU, it would just direct that you would basically just put your Switch

00:39:47.800 --> 00:39:54.200
one game in it and it would run at higher FPS. That's when I was skimming through the direct, I thought that's what they meant was it would

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just work. So unfortunately that does not appear to be the way that things are going.

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Instead, it looks like it'll be a mix.

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Some of them are going to just kind of work in the switch too with minor changes.

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The only one that I really cared about, the only game where I ever really felt like the

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Switch's underpowered hardware dramatically impacted my gameplay experience was Breath

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of the Wild. I wanted Breath of the Wild at like at least rock solid 60.

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And once I found out about the 120Hz display, what I realistically wanted was between 60

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and 120 with variable refresh rate. And I think there was a massive, massive boom in emulating right around Breath of the Wild

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because I don't think you were alone. A lot of people had issues with the performance of that game and a lot of people sought out

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other solutions. I still don't fully know exactly what the situation is with Breath of the Wild.

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So chat, if you guys have more details than me, I think the rumor is that these upgrade

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packs are going to be somewhere in the neighborhood of, oh, this is interesting speculation from,

00:41:08.520 --> 00:41:15.840
it doesn't actually say who the writer was for this project here, but listings for Switch

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2 games are ranging from 70 to 90 USD.

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And so with that in mind, they're speculating that the upgrade packs could be 20 US dollars.

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Or more. I hope it's less. I was hoping for like 10, I was hoping for 10, thinking probably 15.

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If it's 20, that is, that is way too much to spend on an upgrade for a game that realistically

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I played as much as I really needed to play seven years ago.

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Here's an interesting question. Is the first version compatible?

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Because it might be. You just might not be able to run it at high resolutions.

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But I don't want to run it at 30 FPS. No, I know. I'm just saying.

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30 FPS this time, but like there's FPS elements to it.

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I have to aim the bow and it would drop to like 17 frames per second.

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Like it's not, like obviously I enjoyed the game.

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If I'm being honest, it's probably my favorite game ever, right?

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Like I love Zelda Breath of the Wild. I didn't get into Tears of the Kingdom because it just felt like Breath of the Wild again.

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So are you going to buy an upgrade pack for your favorite game ever?

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I don't want to play it again. I didn't even buy the DLC.

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If I wanted to play Breath of the Wild again, I'd probably buy Tears of the Kingdom.

00:42:30.080 --> 00:42:33.160
Yeah, I felt, I put a freaking ton of hours into it.

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I've heard extremely good things about Tears of the Kingdom. Me too, but I got a little ways into it and I was like, I even bought it.

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And I was just like, oh, this really feels like Breath of the Wild again.

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Yeah. Whereas Breath of the Wild was like just such an outstanding.

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Breath of the Wild and the Legend of Zelda Tears of the Kingdom will be free for Switch

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Online plus Expansion Pack subscribers.

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So yeah, but I don't have Switch Online. Yeah.

00:43:03.240 --> 00:43:06.360
That means you pay for it. In installments.

00:43:06.360 --> 00:43:09.360
Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

00:43:09.360 --> 00:43:14.360
What else, what else we got to talk about here?

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You're going to buy Mario Kart World obviously, right? So you buy it in the bundle.

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Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

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I'm going to think of the pricing of the console and games. Okay.

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Actually, I'm going to alter this one a little bit. How do you think Nintendo's new game pricing paradigm will, what shockwaves do you think

00:43:32.240 --> 00:43:40.360
this will send throughout the rest of the gaming industry? I immediately saw people talking about how stoked Rockstar must be with their like very

00:43:40.360 --> 00:43:47.560
possibly $100 GTA 6 coming with this $90 shift for Nintendo, softening that blow from

00:43:47.560 --> 00:43:50.720
closer to a $20 jump to closer to a $10 jump.

00:43:51.720 --> 00:43:58.640
Yeah. It's interesting. I mean, we've been talking about this for a long time about how game prices are going

00:43:58.640 --> 00:44:06.000
to be cooking over the next little bit. There's been incredible inflation over the last few years and you know, it hits everything

00:44:06.000 --> 00:44:10.000
so I'm not surprised it's going up. In Canada, this is going to suck.

00:44:10.000 --> 00:44:15.640
If the Canadian dollar is rough right now, Canadian average GDP per person has been like

00:44:15.640 --> 00:44:22.640
essentially flat for 10 years. Oh dude, yeah. It's going to be very rough for any Canadians interested in buying Nintendo products and

00:44:22.640 --> 00:44:28.920
Nintendo products sell, man, like regardless of economic situation, regardless of practically

00:44:28.920 --> 00:44:31.920
anything. Dude. Nintendo products move.

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We did an episode of Setup Doctor where we did a setup, we cured the setup of a viewer

00:44:39.120 --> 00:44:46.320
and they literally have a collection of Nintendo Switch games that is like an entire wall,

00:44:46.320 --> 00:44:52.600
like an entire bookshelf. I think they said they had almost every game or something like that and I'm looking at

00:44:52.600 --> 00:44:58.560
this going like $100, $200, $300, $400, $2,000.

00:44:58.560 --> 00:45:01.960
The amount of money in it is wild.

00:45:01.960 --> 00:45:09.000
In Canadian dollars, which by the way are what we earn, we don't really earn proportionately

00:45:09.000 --> 00:45:13.280
more Canadian dollars compared to US dollars.

00:45:13.280 --> 00:45:19.720
In Canadian dollars and Nintendo games like $90 already and that stings us almost as hard,

00:45:19.720 --> 00:45:28.160
not quite, but almost as hard as a 90 US dollar game would sting a US buyer.

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Welcome to the party. It's tough. It's tough.

00:45:31.160 --> 00:45:37.080
Yeah. So like the same thing that I said last time is honestly, I understand it.

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Games have not really tracked inflation super hard.

00:45:40.280 --> 00:45:45.680
I think there's arguments for games being behind inflation, but then there's very, very,

00:45:45.680 --> 00:45:50.160
very strong counter arguments for, yeah, but back then you used to get the whole damn

00:45:50.160 --> 00:45:55.120
game. Yeah. Now you have to buy DLC or there's skins that aren't included and when you're like,

00:45:55.120 --> 00:45:58.840
oh, but skins are just cosmetics. Don't forget about your subscription to play online.

00:45:58.840 --> 00:46:06.880
Yeah, that's rough and stupid as well. But back in my day, there wasn't skins for cosmetics and fully paid games.

00:46:06.880 --> 00:46:11.600
It was just like League of Legends and there used to be like quest chains and content that

00:46:11.600 --> 00:46:16.480
you would do and the reward was those cool looking things or whatever else.

00:46:16.480 --> 00:46:24.720
So there's content that is missing from your game. You are not getting a complete game if the game includes paid skins in my opinion.

00:46:24.720 --> 00:46:30.600
So yeah, that's rough and there's a certain amount of like, will the market bear it?

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Dyslexic Stoner for a 240 brings up a really good point here that I had actually meant

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to discuss earlier. Game devs are going to have to decide if they want margins or high player counts.

00:46:42.760 --> 00:46:47.840
And this was something that I had wanted to include in the discussion around how the fact

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that, you know, how the SNES was the same price when I was a kid as the Switch 2 is today

00:46:53.120 --> 00:47:01.520
when you account for inflation, but the gaming industry is way bigger.

00:47:01.520 --> 00:47:06.720
Consumers of magnitude larger than what it was when I was a kid and games were for kids

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and game consoles were luxurious, incredible presence for children from their parents.

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You know, like it wasn't and we didn't have, there was no phone, right?

00:47:20.680 --> 00:47:24.160
So I didn't get a phone. Interesting thing. So that would be the equivalent, right?

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Like, you know, your, you know, like kind of cheapo Android phone that your parents might

00:47:29.680 --> 00:47:33.000
give you when you're 10 and don't kid yourself.

00:47:33.000 --> 00:47:38.200
A lot of my kid's friends have phones by about 10.

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If they get one of those, well, they would get no game console, you know, like that was

00:47:42.280 --> 00:47:47.760
what we got instead of having a phone or an iPad or whatever else.

00:47:47.760 --> 00:47:54.720
So if they want, if they want the volumes that they have enjoyed over the last 10 years,

00:47:54.720 --> 00:48:01.440
they may not see them. And in that sense, even if the switch too ends up being a very profitable generation

00:48:01.440 --> 00:48:08.020
for Nintendo, it may not go anywhere near their podium in terms of the volume of game

00:48:08.020 --> 00:48:15.200
consoles sold. Like, if you look at Nintendo's most sold consoles, what was it, some DS of some form

00:48:15.200 --> 00:48:23.520
or other, right? I think so. Is their top one, if I recall correctly, that was really affordable, super affordable.

00:48:23.520 --> 00:48:32.880
Yeah. To your point on it being like presents for kids up until the switch, most Nintendo consoles

00:48:32.880 --> 00:48:36.280
came out in like September or November, close to holiday season.

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Yeah. And then their original switch came out in March because now people just buy consoles

00:48:41.840 --> 00:48:48.880
all year round. But I remember when I was a kid, it was, it was just Christmas that everybody got consoles.

00:48:48.880 --> 00:48:52.080
Oh yeah. It was a Christmas present and or nothing else.

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So I think I've told the story before about how my super Nintendo was actually stolen

00:48:56.200 --> 00:49:03.520
before it was given to me. So my, my aunt got me the bundle with the two controllers and Super Mario World.

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And but it was actually, she was robbed like in the week before Christmas and she moved

00:49:09.680 --> 00:49:15.600
heaven and earth to try to find me another one and couldn't get like the bundle one.

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And so it was funny because I still remember this.

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She apologized to me on Christmas morning that it wasn't like the one that I could play

00:49:24.120 --> 00:49:29.040
with my friends. But dude, I was just so stoked to have a super Nintendo at all.

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Like, I was like, what are you even talking about?

00:49:32.560 --> 00:49:35.760
We can share the controller around. Who cares? Like this is so cool.

00:49:35.760 --> 00:49:38.760
Don't worry. No, no. My aunt, she found me a Nintendo.

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I don't know how she did it. Of course she did. I had one on Christmas morning.

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It just didn't have two controllers. And I don't, I don't think it had, did it have Super Mario World?

00:49:47.960 --> 00:49:51.720
They definitely didn't have two controllers. There were two versions of the, of the console.

00:49:51.720 --> 00:49:57.880
Oh dude, my aunt's amazing. She's, she is one of the closest members of my extended family.

00:49:57.880 --> 00:50:07.200
She comes over every week, spends a ton of time with our kids. She is actually, if I wasn't married to Yvonne, I would say my aunt is the best lady in the

00:50:07.200 --> 00:50:10.360
entire, in the entire world. She's incredible.

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D. Hollinger said, I'm going to point out again, I'm going to point out again that game

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devs make less with fewer benefits. My mother-in-law is actually amazing too.

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Words that have never been said before in that order.

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That's true. Unless you're like, at practically gunpoint.

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Gilmore D, yes. This is the aunt that gives me art, like that Yoda, that weird Yoda that's in my gaming

00:50:32.800 --> 00:50:37.280
room. And yes, this is the one that makes me borscht.

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All right. D. Hollinger, I'm going to point out again that most game devs make less with fewer benefits

00:50:41.720 --> 00:50:49.840
than non-game encounter parts too. So AAA game companies may need to go back to making AA games instead of AAA games that

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cost more to make the blockbuster movie.

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I have thoughts on this. One, a lot of the game devs making less with fewer benefits is because it's in a lot of

00:51:00.400 --> 00:51:05.600
ways, in my opinion, a predatory industry where people want to work, people say they

00:51:05.600 --> 00:51:11.040
want to make games from when they are very young and it is a dream and an aspiration.

00:51:11.040 --> 00:51:20.960
So gaming companies kind of abuse them. Also, gaming companies needing to go from AAA to AA.

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I don't know. There's good games out there that sure sell a heck of a lot and there's a lot of trash

00:51:25.160 --> 00:51:28.160
games out there. So maybe make better games.

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Yeah, both the AA and AAA categories. Maybe if you're making quadruple games that just suck, they're not going to sell at all.

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And maybe if you just made the game that everyone on the freaking planet asked you to make and

00:51:38.560 --> 00:51:42.840
then sold it, people would be really happy with that and would have bought it.

00:51:42.840 --> 00:51:46.040
Skull and Bones. They called it a quadruple A game.

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Oh, no, no, I mean, oh, you mean if they had just made it like Assassin's Creed?

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Just make Black Flag but take the Assassin's Creed part out because no one cared about

00:51:54.680 --> 00:51:59.680
the Assassin's Creed part. Even I was a huge Assassin's Creed fan, did not care about the Assassin's Creed part.

00:51:59.680 --> 00:52:03.000
I never beat Black Flag. Really?

00:52:03.000 --> 00:52:09.000
I played the heck out of that game. The worst part of that game is all of the Assassin's parts that you have to do until

00:52:09.000 --> 00:52:13.600
you get your boat. When you get your boat, the game is amazing.

00:52:13.600 --> 00:52:22.420
Just make that. Like my God, not listening to fans, making huge giant art pieces that no one wants, focusing

00:52:22.420 --> 00:52:25.440
on the wrong things, not making games actually fun.

00:52:25.440 --> 00:52:31.440
Like anyways, there's a reason why certain companies in the gaming space are struggling

00:52:31.440 --> 00:52:37.600
and there's a reason why other companies in the gaming industry are thriving right now

00:52:37.600 --> 00:52:41.720
and a lot of them are newer, a lot of them are offshoots.

00:52:41.720 --> 00:52:45.080
You can't look at the gaming industry and say that it's necessarily doing super poorly

00:52:45.080 --> 00:52:48.880
when we add massive like- Huge profits.

00:52:48.880 --> 00:52:51.880
Huge profits and huge cultural moments.

00:52:51.880 --> 00:52:58.200
Like Helldivers changed how people communicated on the internet for a substantial period of

00:52:58.200 --> 00:53:06.440
time. People were oddly patriotic because of a video game for months.

00:53:06.440 --> 00:53:11.920
Baldur's Gate 3 was enormous. There's still these huge, crazy launches.

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And not always triple-A games. Neither of those are technically triple-A.

00:53:16.200 --> 00:53:23.360
Look at Fall Guys. It was a little longer ago. But Jude, that Pal world exploded.

00:53:23.360 --> 00:53:30.800
The common thread here is that they're fun. A lot of triple-A games just like genuinely aren't that fun anymore and it's like that's

00:53:30.800 --> 00:53:33.840
the problem. The problem, in my opinion, isn't the fact that they're triple-A games.

00:53:33.840 --> 00:53:39.280
The fact is that they're not just fun. They're missing the core component of what a game is supposed to be.

00:53:39.280 --> 00:53:45.040
Yeah, DME95 says Kingdom Come Deliverance 2 is amazing and came from a smaller studio

00:53:45.040 --> 00:53:48.560
that got its original start on Kickstarter of all places.

00:53:48.560 --> 00:53:51.040
Yeah. I don't know.

00:53:52.040 --> 00:53:57.320
I think devs being paid less on average in the gaming industry is not necessarily a reflection

00:53:57.320 --> 00:54:03.880
of the cost of a game cart. But you've also talked about how you think that there's something of a great reset happening

00:54:03.880 --> 00:54:11.760
in the game industry right now. Where talented people are losing their jobs, not because they've done a bad job, but because

00:54:11.760 --> 00:54:17.360
companies do company layoff things. There's amazing games with great sales and great reviews that are having their entire

00:54:17.360 --> 00:54:23.640
teams get laid off. And then those people are going to go and they're going to start up, whether they do

00:54:23.640 --> 00:54:30.000
indie solo games or whether they start small studios. Some of those are going to make it to market and those people are going to reap the rewards

00:54:30.000 --> 00:54:33.080
and their companies are going to grow.

00:54:33.080 --> 00:54:38.960
What I'm seeing as triple-A games failing is less triple-A games failing and it's more

00:54:38.960 --> 00:54:45.720
giant, old, behemoth, slow, bad companies starting to take it on the chin.

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Because you're seeing games like Baldur's Gate 3 is not a triple-A game.

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Right, right, right, right. I mean it's triple-A in terms of the quality.

00:54:52.640 --> 00:54:58.280
Exactly. But if you look at it in the way that almost everyone would ignorantly evaluate games as

00:54:58.280 --> 00:55:02.160
triple-A or a single-A or whatever without being in the industry, everyone's going to

00:55:02.160 --> 00:55:07.280
think it's a triple-A game. It looks great. The story's incredibly deep.

00:55:07.280 --> 00:55:14.200
The voice acting is amazing. All these things that you would expect from a triple-A game are in Baldur's Gate 3.

00:55:14.200 --> 00:55:18.720
I understand there isn't a ton of modes and stuff for Helldivers, but I bet you most people

00:55:18.720 --> 00:55:25.120
would look at Helldivers and think of it as a triple-A release and it absolutely wasn't.

00:55:25.120 --> 00:55:32.440
It's more the type of company that's failing in my mind instead of the type of game.

00:55:32.440 --> 00:55:38.280
Okay. Athos asks you, would Breath of the Wild be a triple-A game?

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I don't remember. I don't remember the exact defining features, but I think it is.

00:55:41.960 --> 00:55:51.800
I would think so. I mean, to me, is it well-defined because I'm sure Nintendo spent the money on it?

00:55:51.800 --> 00:55:55.840
It sold consoles or was expected to.

00:55:55.840 --> 00:56:02.720
I would say part of being triple-A is an expectation of performance in the market.

00:56:02.720 --> 00:56:07.280
Triple-A refers to high-budget blockbuster titles with extensive resources, while double-A

00:56:07.280 --> 00:56:11.920
represents games that fall between indie and triple-A in terms of budget and resources,

00:56:11.920 --> 00:56:18.280
so that's why I would say Larian Studios and Arrowhead, so Baldur's Gate 3 and Helldivers

00:56:18.280 --> 00:56:22.200
are in the double-A category. They're not an indie game.

00:56:22.200 --> 00:56:28.480
It's not two-to-five devs, but it's also not EA games or Ubisoft or Bethesda or whatever

00:56:28.480 --> 00:56:35.640
making it. Yeah, I would think that Breath of the Wild, I wasn't sure because it was like first party

00:56:35.640 --> 00:56:41.560
to the manufacturer of a console. I wasn't sure what that meant, but that absolutely falls under it based on this definition at

00:56:41.560 --> 00:56:45.360
least. Makes sense. Yeah.

00:56:45.360 --> 00:56:48.680
All right, should we move on from the Nintendo Switch?

00:56:48.680 --> 00:56:53.040
Oh, okay, Dan wants us to do merge messages.

00:56:53.040 --> 00:56:59.280
Sure. Only if you want or you can do another topic.

00:56:59.280 --> 00:57:02.640
Should we get the tariff stuff talked about?

00:57:02.640 --> 00:57:05.840
We can. That's a decently sized topic though, I think, isn't it?

00:57:05.840 --> 00:57:10.600
You might as well. No, it's more just us kind of talking through.

00:57:10.600 --> 00:57:16.960
It's more of like a, oh, no, it's a pretty heavy statement or it's a, okay, let's do

00:57:16.960 --> 00:57:21.400
the LTT Store side and then we'll get into a little bit, no, okay, yeah, let's just do

00:57:21.400 --> 00:57:26.000
merge messages. Okay, fine, Dan. Let's talk about what the heck a merge message is.

00:57:26.000 --> 00:57:30.120
So we don't do Twitch bits, we don't do super chats, we do merge messages.

00:57:30.120 --> 00:57:33.400
Those are the way to interact with the show live.

00:57:33.400 --> 00:57:37.800
We love interacting with you guys and we have some special stuff that you guys can check

00:57:37.800 --> 00:57:48.040
out on the store today. Unfortunately, demand for the firewall department t-shirts that we had for April Fool's this

00:57:48.040 --> 00:57:53.680
year was much greater than we anticipated and I've had quite a few people ask me how

00:57:53.680 --> 00:58:00.280
the heck it is that you can be sold out of a custom print to order t-shirt and the answer

00:58:00.280 --> 00:58:06.560
is when you run out of the blanks, that it goes on is how that happens.

00:58:06.560 --> 00:58:13.400
So unfortunately, we don't have those, but what we do have is the custom water bottles

00:58:13.400 --> 00:58:17.880
and you can see those here in the front of the fire truck.

00:58:17.880 --> 00:58:25.520
Yes, thank you, Luke. Do we have a, no, we have no, we just got the one cam, we got the one cam today.

00:58:25.520 --> 00:58:29.320
So the thirst extinguisher fire truck here, we'll just go Linus laptop, boom, there we

00:58:29.320 --> 00:58:35.280
go. Hey, I know why I clicked the wrong thing earlier when I was trying to show my laptop.

00:58:35.280 --> 00:58:38.280
Me too. I'm on the wrong side of the driver's seat. I'm on the wrong side of the wanshow.

00:58:38.280 --> 00:58:41.280
Wait, no, I'm not on the wrong side of the wanshow. Am I not?

00:58:41.280 --> 00:58:44.280
No, yeah, you're backwards. Yeah, yeah, I'm backwards. Yeah.

00:58:44.280 --> 00:58:49.440
Do you want to flip the laptops around? What the heck? No, I'm over it, but it feels weird.

00:58:49.440 --> 00:58:53.000
The whole thing has felt really weird and I've been trying to figure out what the heck is going on.

00:58:53.000 --> 00:58:56.640
We had so many discussions about what side are you guys sitting on. No, that's backwards.

00:58:56.640 --> 00:58:59.640
No, the lights go this side. No. Linus should be driving.

00:58:59.640 --> 00:59:02.640
Oh, because Linus should be driving. Because Linus should be driving.

00:59:02.640 --> 00:59:04.640
Why would I be driving? Linus doesn't have a class re-license.

00:59:06.280 --> 00:59:11.000
It doesn't matter. It's it. We should have got my brother to show up and we should have done wanshow on the road and

00:59:11.000 --> 00:59:14.000
just driven around. Hold on. I can fix this.

00:59:14.000 --> 00:59:17.000
No. No, no, no, no. Don't do it.

00:59:17.000 --> 00:59:23.360
Anyway, the point is the thirst extinguisher is, I think, the Creator Warehouse team absolutely

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outdid themselves here. Thirst tips. Hold bottle upright, unscrew and remove cap from spout.

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Lift your mouth until it's slowly to drink. Drink until thirst is extinguished.

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Warning, do not drop. This thing is so cool.

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I absolutely love it. I think they did an amazing job of it.

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Here's our maintenance records. Now a lot of you seem a little confused about what the heck was the April Fool this year.

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We did buy a fire truck. We are sitting in it right now.

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Yeah, it's not a green screen. Look, I can open the door.

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I wonder if I could grab Andrew's camera and do you a tour or something.

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We didn't rent it. We didn't fake anything.

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Absolutely everything you saw in the April Fool's video was real.

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The April Fool this year was, if you don't believe that this is real, then you're an

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April Fool. Yeah, we were discussing before the show that the audio is actually surprisingly good in

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here. It's a relatively small and padded room.

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It's probably better than the WAN set and we were discussing which was cheaper.

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I think we should just use this forever after.

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Just use it from now on. We maybe should have just bought a fire truck to begin with.

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You're going to have to hold your questions about the April Fool's video. I got a lot of people that are like, whoa, whoa, whoa, this changes everything because

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they just assumed everything was fake. So you're fooled.

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So yeah, merge messages. Merch messages, buy a thirst extinguisher.

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Dan, do you want to, oh yeah, right. How to leave a merge message.

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So you go on LTTstore.com where we've got, wait, what is this?

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Click here to call the LTT Firewall Department. Sorry, what is this?

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Click here to call the LTT Firewall Department. Oh, guys, okay.

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Top Gear said no, the April Fool's that you guys never bothered to idle up the fire engine

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and use full pressure or flow through the nozzle. Please have Luke's brother show you how to do it.

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The point of that whole section was them just kind of like fumbling around having fun.

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I thought it was fun watching you guys do stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah, don't worry. I didn't expect you to do it perfectly.

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We're going to figure stuff out later. Yeah. Don't even trip, dawg.

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It's fine. All right. So head to LTTstore.

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Add something to your cart. Say, for example, the commuter backpack.

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Whale of a surprise. Oh, there's something behind Luke, I believe.

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What is this? This weekend only, offer and Sunday, April 6th at 11.59 PM Pacific time.

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There's a commuter backpack behind you, Luke. Oh, okay.

01:02:05.680 --> 01:02:09.280
And you get... Sorry. Nobody consults me on our promos anymore.

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This is a pretty special promo. What is this? Okay.

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It's a commuter backpack, Luke. Yeah, behind... Wait, do you...

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Oh. I believe. There's some one in three chances.

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It should be in... There's a plush. There's a plush whale.

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There's a commuter bag and a whale inside your backpack.

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Some... Will be either... Some, if you're lucky.

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Inside your backpack. Wait, but no, because you buy the whale, right?

01:02:35.120 --> 01:02:38.120
Yes. I believe they're together. Yeah.

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Is it not in the dock? No, no, no. Inside your backpack will be either a whale or one of three signed firetrucks by me and

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Luke. Oh. There is a Sharpie in the center there for you guys to sign the firetrucks.

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There are all three of the firetrucks are there. So these are the ones that were in the silly unboxing at the beginning of the April Fool's

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video. Got it. Okay.

01:02:59.400 --> 01:03:02.400
So wait. Okay. So you buy the commuter pack, that's all you buy?

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And a whale. You buy the whale. You buy the whale.

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And you might get a whale. Oh. Or you might get a signed firetruck.

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Is that... Arthur's in here, so let's see what he says.

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Oh, you get the whale for free.

01:03:17.560 --> 01:03:21.160
Yeah, like why would you buy the whale and then maybe get another whale?

01:03:21.200 --> 01:03:24.200
No, no. You don't maybe get another whale. Oh, for the love of God.

01:03:24.200 --> 01:03:32.120
Luke, you get the whale. The whale and the whale will be in your backpack or a firetruck because they're going to pack

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the whale you bought in the back. But anyway, the point is it's free anyway.

01:03:35.560 --> 01:03:40.320
Okay. So you don't have to pay for it. You get the whale for free when you add both the commuter and the whale to your cart.

01:03:40.320 --> 01:03:43.320
Yes. So either way... So you guarantee you get the whale.

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You get a backpack, then inside will be either a whale or one of three signed firetrucks.

01:03:49.760 --> 01:03:57.800
It would really help if I just read the doc for this. The point is go to lttstore.com, find something cool, add it to your cart and there'll be

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a box to leave a message and it will be the producer Dan, who we are revealing once and

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for all. Look at that. He's in the back of the firetruck on the top of it.

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Let's go. Turn on the lights. Turn on the lights.

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Oh, I'll turn it off. Yeah. You have to climb up to where Dan is.

01:04:17.280 --> 01:04:21.680
Yeah, it's pretty high up actually. Here it's on the scissor lift and yeah, it's pretty cool.

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There you go. Let's go. Real firetruck.

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Dan, on the back of the firetruck. Let's go.

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We can leave these on for a little bit. As long as we're not on public roads, apparently we are allowed to have the lights on.

01:04:33.640 --> 01:04:38.360
You're also not allowed to drain the battery or you will... Oh yeah, I'll face the wrath of Jamie.

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Yes. That makes sense. Absolutely.

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And I'm definitely not allowed to start the engine because we are very much indoors. Yeah.

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What about the horn? You can do it, you can do it.

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You ready, Dan? You should really plug your ears, Dan. I'm gonna do that.

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You got headphones on? Yeah. Oh yeah, you got headphones on.

01:04:54.040 --> 01:04:56.040
Okay, you everyone ready? Yeah.

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Oh my God. I mean, there's more.

01:05:05.040 --> 01:05:08.040
Oh God. Hold on. Where is it?

01:05:08.040 --> 01:05:11.040
Hold on, hold on. It's over there.

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Okay, Luke's got the other thing. Dan, yeah, you're really gonna want your stuff covered for this.

01:05:15.040 --> 01:05:18.040
Oh God, okay. Here we go. The knob on the left.

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All right, yeah. Keep going.

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Oh my good God.

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Real fire truck. For those of you wondering, yes, it is street legal here.

01:05:43.040 --> 01:05:52.040
Yeah. The only thing we have to do is cover the emergency lights and not turn that on.

01:05:52.040 --> 01:05:56.040
Yeah, but it can be mounted. Is that wild or what?

01:05:56.040 --> 01:06:03.040
Just can't turn it on. That is flipped. I gotta get my class three license if I want to drive it, which my understanding is actually

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a pretty short course. But other than that, it is a real f***ing fire truck that we actually bought and that's the April Fool.

01:06:14.040 --> 01:06:21.040
But absolutely none of it was fake. I sent my brother a video of it and he said it's like quite legit.

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Like the brand and all that type of stuff.

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Apparently it's like very good. Oh no, it's like it's a real fire truck.

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No, not only is it real, it's a good one. It's only not in service today.

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It only has 30,000 kilometers on it. Yeah.

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That's just over 20,000 miles.

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The only reason it's not in service today is because it's so old.

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It aged out of active service. A lot of fire truck stuff is idle time, not necessarily the mileage.

01:06:47.040 --> 01:06:50.040
Still. Yeah. That's still nothing.

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People were saying that typically retired ones will have 100 plus kilometers on them because they do still drive.

01:06:54.040 --> 01:06:57.040
For sure. You answer a lot of calls and stuff.

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Yeah. We had a concept for the April Fool's that we would pretend it was fake.

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Like we'd pretend we were trying to fake it.

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So everything would like be green screened until all of a sudden we like interact with the truck and people like no way.

01:07:11.040 --> 01:07:14.040
But then that ended up. Probably take too long to build up.

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Yeah. It was too much work. I think the final video was really good.

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The final video was really good. My kids watched it last night and they like they and Yvonne like laughed multiple times and yeah, it felt pretty good.

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There's been videos that like I've watched with my kids and I'm like, oh, this is actually a boring video.

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But no, the April Fool's this year was outstanding.

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Sorry, we'll get to talking about it a little bit later.

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But first Dan, you want to show us how merch messages work? Absolutely.

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They send them in the cart, they place their order and they go to producer Dan.

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Right. Right. And producer Dan is on fire.

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If you look carefully, you can see. Yeah, we have a fire light in the back.

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So extra. I love it.

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Got a couple of questions here by the April Fool's merch. Question for the peepers.

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Were there any legal concerns regarding the water bottle given its similarity to emergency safety devices?

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No. I don't.

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Things can be red and white. I am not always a person who has the most faith in humans to be not stupid is a way I would put it.

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I sincerely do not know any single living breathing human being in my life that would mistake that for an actual fire extinguisher.

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I think we're going to be okay, everyone.

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Hopefully. And I got a second one here about that.

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Hey, LMG Foolies, the 2026 calendar truly surprised me.

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What's been your favorite project over the years? And what's the most embarrassing thing you've done for a project?

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Oh my goodness. There's definitely stuff that didn't feel that embarrassing back when we did it.

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But it's like pretty embarrassing now. Oh, definitely.

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I think you can think of some channel super funds. Like, dude, this Computex trip was brutal because I was desperately trying to figure out how to get anybody to watch any of this content that WD sponsored.

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And nothing against Western Digital. They make good products.

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They seem like a pretty stand up company.

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But the only way that we could cover the costs to go to Computex that first year was to do a video on the show floor in WD's booth every day of the show.

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So we were trying to find desperately trying to find a way to make one booth interesting over and over and over again.

01:09:46.040 --> 01:09:59.040
And when we announced that we were going to Computex, we did this unhinged nonsense that I was just trying to do anything that I could to figure out how I could have the retention not be absolutely trash.

01:09:59.040 --> 01:10:02.040
I'm playing with cars. What am I doing?

01:10:02.040 --> 01:10:08.040
Is that an ax on the ground? I'm a grown man wearing a dress and a Superman cape and I'm playing with cars.

01:10:08.040 --> 01:10:11.040
And I think there's an ax on the ground. What was I thinking?

01:10:13.040 --> 01:10:17.040
I made some kind of promise. Are you going to shower in this video?

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And I was like, we'll do stuff. When you watch the videos, you can unlock more prizes.

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Right. That was WD's idea. Was the more views we got or something.

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Because I told them we're not going to get any views on this. I was like, I need to turn this off.

01:10:29.040 --> 01:10:37.040
I was like, the more views that we get. The more prizes that we'll do for your audience or something like that.

01:10:37.040 --> 01:10:40.040
I was like, oh my God, that's not going to work at all.

01:10:40.040 --> 01:10:49.040
No. That's actually stupid. But look, never say that I'm not committed.

01:10:49.040 --> 01:10:52.040
I don't know why this. I think the videos are...

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Yeah, you go in the shower. I remember this. I'm in the shower with an ax and a Superman suit.

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What is even happening right now? I don't know. The videos are better back then.

01:10:59.040 --> 01:11:02.040
Yeah, they sure were. There's more production quality.

01:11:02.040 --> 01:11:06.040
Oh, definitely. And writing.

01:11:06.040 --> 01:11:10.040
Yeah. Yeah, that...

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If I was to ever go back and just like purge weird stuff that I've done over the years,

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that would be one of the videos.

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That would be one of them.

01:11:21.040 --> 01:11:24.040
Yes. Wow.

01:11:24.040 --> 01:11:27.040
This, wow. This is terrible.

01:11:27.040 --> 01:11:30.040
Cool. You derailed them too hard. Next one.

01:11:30.040 --> 01:11:33.040
Yeah. Yeah, one more, Dan.

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All right. Let's see. What else we got here?

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Let's go back to the top. Hey, LDL, this past Valentine's Day, my partner surprised me with both a spicy outfit and

01:11:42.720 --> 01:11:50.040
a scribe driver pen tucked in her hair. What is the nerdiest romantic thing that you or your partner has done?

01:11:50.040 --> 01:11:53.040
I got one. Sure.

01:11:53.040 --> 01:11:57.040
For Christmas a few years ago, Emma, my partner, got me a...

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Clearly from Value Village or something, leather satchel bag thing.

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And it was completely full. And when I opened it, it was what you might expect a Pokemon professor would have in a

01:12:16.040 --> 01:12:23.040
leather satchel bag. Oh, that's pretty cool. So there was little samples from, I don't know, different Pokemon stuff.

01:12:23.040 --> 01:12:31.040
Bulbasaur leaf. Yeah. There was a book with notes that she wrote that mimic the types of things that might

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be in there. That's cool. There's all this different type of stuff.

01:12:34.040 --> 01:12:37.040
And it was a full actual kit. It was super, super cool.

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I still have it. I'd say one of the moment I knew, moments with Yvonne was actually, no, I'm going to go

01:12:47.540 --> 01:12:56.360
with a different one. I'd go with when Yvonne bought me a window-mounted air conditioner unit for my birthday, knowing

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that I was going to immediately disassemble it and use it to submersion Sub-Zero cool.

01:13:03.280 --> 01:13:08.700
I was going to submers the evaporator side into a windshield de-icer and then pump the

01:13:08.700 --> 01:13:15.280
fluid around to my CPU so that I could go Sub-Zero 24-7.

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And I mean, how can you not know that she's the one in that moment?

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KG4WWN in Floatplane Chat says, it's kind of ironic to decry weirdness and childishness

01:13:28.900 --> 01:13:34.500
of childishness of prior videos while sitting in the fire truck you bought.

01:13:34.500 --> 01:13:37.780
Look. It's a different level.

01:13:37.780 --> 01:13:43.540
Yeah. Yeah. We're childish on a completely different level now.

01:13:43.540 --> 01:13:50.160
We can afford way better childish toys. I actually, I'm going to un-one of the toys that I bought.

01:13:50.160 --> 01:13:53.800
I am actually dying in this. Yeah.

01:13:53.800 --> 01:13:57.280
Those aren't known for their cooling properties.

01:13:57.280 --> 01:14:00.680
Nope. I'll be right back. Yeah.

01:14:00.680 --> 01:14:05.360
Sounds good. Next topic. Do we talk about the fire truck?

01:14:05.360 --> 01:14:08.880
Do we fully go through this? Yeah, let's do it.

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Fire truck. April Fools, except not really. We really bought a real fire truck for real.

01:14:12.940 --> 01:14:16.220
Wow, that is the sentence.

01:14:16.220 --> 01:14:21.140
While it was definitely less work and money than the Langley House video last year, really

01:14:21.140 --> 01:14:24.140
it was less money. Interesting. Oh, easy.

01:14:24.140 --> 01:14:27.900
Getting this whole project figured out was still a pain, figuring out transport.

01:14:27.900 --> 01:14:31.620
We couldn't drive it until inspections. Yeah.

01:14:31.620 --> 01:14:38.420
So we had to haul it back here. There's actually a really good Floatplane exclusive that you guys can check out, LMG.gg

01:14:38.420 --> 01:14:41.420
slash Floatplane.

01:14:41.420 --> 01:14:45.080
It's a great exclusive, actually. Also insurance.

01:14:45.080 --> 01:14:52.720
The person who was selling it. Insurance, which we don't have yet. Yeah, that's why it just sits in the warehouse for now or in the parking lot.

01:14:52.720 --> 01:14:56.520
And permits for the hydrant, those all took a long time to figure out, shout out to Dylan

01:14:56.520 --> 01:15:04.040
for the hard work, especially driving all the way up there. In like ridiculous cold, again, it's a great exclusive.

01:15:04.040 --> 01:15:07.600
We got lucky when the fire inspector came by so we could pick his brain.

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Originally, we wanted to use a city hydrant, but we would have needed permits for both

01:15:11.540 --> 01:15:16.260
the hydrant and just for filming, even though we're on our own property.

01:15:16.260 --> 01:15:20.260
Apparently, the dead bird was 100% real and not scripted.

01:15:20.260 --> 01:15:25.140
Yeah. Oh, dude, that was...

01:15:25.140 --> 01:15:31.500
That was... Yeah, I think it's in the final edit.

01:15:31.500 --> 01:15:35.820
I'm not going to shy away from that I have a necrophobia thing.

01:15:35.820 --> 01:15:39.640
I don't even think that's an embarrassing thing to admit. Like if it was necrophilia...

01:15:39.640 --> 01:15:42.640
It sounds like a survival trait. That's pretty embarrassing. Yeah.

01:15:42.640 --> 01:15:45.720
Necrophobia, I don't think that's that embarrassing. I do not like dead things.

01:15:45.720 --> 01:15:48.960
I'm not into it. I don't think they're cool. I don't like touching them.

01:15:48.960 --> 01:15:51.960
I don't like looking at them. I'm not into it. Again, that's probably wealthy.

01:15:51.960 --> 01:15:57.720
One of my most traumatic childhood experiences was when I had to bury a fawn that my dog

01:15:57.720 --> 01:16:01.960
killed. I was not into that.

01:16:01.960 --> 01:16:06.100
Not even a little. Fair enough. Some people, it doesn't bother them.

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I'm not judging or anything. I'm not saying everyone should be the same way. I'm just saying I'm not into it.

01:16:11.860 --> 01:16:18.380
When I encounter unexpected mummified squirrel when I'm crawling around in my attic, when

01:16:18.380 --> 01:16:24.900
I encounter unexpected tailpipe dead bird when I am poking around at my new fire truck,

01:16:24.900 --> 01:16:27.900
I'm not into it. Yeah. Yes.

01:16:27.900 --> 01:16:34.620
That was very real. Apparently, we almost got used fire gear for Linus, but apparently that is a cancer

01:16:34.640 --> 01:16:37.640
risk. Yes. Because they're chock full of carcinogens.

01:16:37.640 --> 01:16:40.800
What is that? Because they've been in fires. Maybe it's less used.

01:16:40.800 --> 01:16:43.800
I don't know. It seems pretty used. It seems pretty used.

01:16:43.800 --> 01:16:47.440
Did you just get over it? I don't know. Because it seems pretty used.

01:16:47.440 --> 01:16:51.440
I just put on whatever they handed me, so maybe they killed me. The helmet seems pretty used.

01:16:51.440 --> 01:16:55.360
Oh, the helmet's definitely used, but I'd be less worried about a helmet absorbing carcinogens.

01:16:55.360 --> 01:16:59.680
Yeah. Yeah. Anyways, truck specs.

01:16:59.680 --> 01:17:05.100
It's a 1993 hub pumper with some HME parts and an 8.3 Cummings diesel engine.

01:17:05.100 --> 01:17:10.380
Get that G out of there. Who's meming on this? David said Cummings in the video.

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It's just about died. Look, he is an expert on lots of things.

01:17:16.380 --> 01:17:22.260
Diesel engines, apparently not one of them. That's fine. I tried to continue it, but yeah, it's Cummings.

01:17:22.260 --> 01:17:26.420
Small t-shirts and thirst quenters are still available on lttstore.com.

01:17:26.420 --> 01:17:33.400
All the other ones sold out. I'm sorry. I was going to buy shirts for my brother's whole fire hall, and I couldn't.

01:17:33.400 --> 01:17:37.240
Look, I can't even buy our own products. What do you want from me?

01:17:37.240 --> 01:17:41.160
I'm sorry. And I tried to do it quickly. I checked on April 1st.

01:17:41.160 --> 01:17:46.640
I'm sorry that our graphics design team is too talented.

01:17:46.640 --> 01:17:50.160
And that the stuff they make sells too well. Maybe they should calm down.

01:17:50.160 --> 01:17:53.160
Maybe they should relax. I'm sorry it sells too well.

01:17:53.160 --> 01:17:56.160
I'm sorry. Maybe they should do worse jobs.

01:17:56.160 --> 01:18:07.380
Yeah. Oh, if you want some more trucking fire content, check out Floatplane where we had three exclusives

01:18:07.380 --> 01:18:11.820
this week. Yeah. We have the driving up to get it, which is actually really interesting.

01:18:11.820 --> 01:18:15.540
And then there's some of the like writer's meetings, which were kind of cool.

01:18:15.540 --> 01:18:18.660
If you want to see some behind the scenes on like how video ideation happens.

01:18:18.660 --> 01:18:21.660
Getting the fire truck. Oh yeah. Yeah, that's pretty cool.

01:18:21.660 --> 01:18:25.900
You actually get to like sit in writer's meeting while we talk about how we talk about

01:18:25.900 --> 01:18:29.600
things in writer's meeting. I haven't seen this yet.

01:18:29.600 --> 01:18:34.560
How much of this photo shoot ended up in the thing?

01:18:34.560 --> 01:18:38.120
Oh, okay. Okay. You've got Sammy doing burpees.

01:18:38.120 --> 01:18:43.200
What is he like trying to get in shape for the shoot? I don't know.

01:18:43.200 --> 01:18:47.640
Yeah.

01:18:47.640 --> 01:18:51.240
I felt so awkward during this. You can tell.

01:18:51.240 --> 01:18:54.240
Yeah. Like a hundred percent. Yeah.

01:18:54.580 --> 01:18:57.780
Exactly how awkward I felt. Yeah. There was zero acting.

01:18:57.780 --> 01:19:07.420
Yeah. I was sitting in Labs when you guys were doing that.

01:19:07.420 --> 01:19:14.780
I didn't realize that was actually a calendar shoot. I thought you guys were just trying to get like B-roll and just took forever with it.

01:19:14.780 --> 01:19:19.780
Bartland says, my wife was actually angry. You made something so very me.

01:19:19.780 --> 01:19:24.180
I'm an IT guy of 20 plus years and a retired firefighter.

01:19:25.120 --> 01:19:28.560
That's the demographic we're going for. Hopefully you even got it.

01:19:28.560 --> 01:19:31.560
What else we got? Oh my goodness.

01:19:31.560 --> 01:19:36.160
There's so many exclusives. 20 plus minute vlog of getting the truck, short but informative seven minute writer's

01:19:36.160 --> 01:19:41.560
meeting and a 70 plus minute behind the scenes of the entire shoot.

01:19:41.560 --> 01:19:45.160
Everything from the full ShortCircuit clip. Oh yeah. The fake unboxing of the fire truck.

01:19:45.160 --> 01:19:48.640
I didn't think they were going to use that. To Linus' pants getting stolen.

01:19:48.640 --> 01:19:51.920
To all the alternative takes for the skit bits.

01:19:51.920 --> 01:19:55.340
First if not everything we just talked about is in the video and yes, even the bird and

01:19:55.340 --> 01:19:58.700
the spark which happened minutes between each other. Those are in there.

01:19:58.700 --> 01:20:02.660
So I've had a few people asking. I think the first one to ask in Floatplane chat.

01:20:02.660 --> 01:20:05.660
Nope. I don't see it. I had notes.

01:20:05.660 --> 01:20:09.000
I didn't put it in there. Was the spark real and candid?

01:20:09.000 --> 01:20:13.220
The spark was 100% real and 100% candid.

01:20:13.220 --> 01:20:20.660
What spark? I pick up the thing and I'm like, oh gee, I wonder what this thing's for.

01:20:20.660 --> 01:20:29.840
Better connect the thing to the thing and I took the lead and I just like touched it

01:20:29.840 --> 01:20:36.720
to the head of a bolt and it was 600 volt DC.

01:20:36.720 --> 01:20:40.560
I did not know that that was a thing. Nobody told me that was a thing.

01:20:40.560 --> 01:20:45.960
That is probably the closest I've come to being grievously harmed on set.

01:20:45.960 --> 01:20:53.860
Yeah. I suggested in a long time. The minimum 10 to 15 times that we involve my brother with this project in some way.

01:20:53.860 --> 01:20:58.260
Yeah, but that would have been less fun to drive the truck to help inform whatever.

01:20:58.260 --> 01:21:05.340
And I think there was like you and David trying to explore like how truck work was genuinely

01:21:05.340 --> 01:21:08.780
really entertaining to watch. So I think it worked out. Oh yeah.

01:21:08.780 --> 01:21:11.780
Oh yeah. I had no doubt. I'm just saying.

01:21:11.780 --> 01:21:14.900
Dude, I had no doubt. There's been people that chat like, where was Luke's brother?

01:21:14.900 --> 01:21:18.600
I'm like, he could have been here. I'm sure we'll chat with him at some point about it.

01:21:18.600 --> 01:21:22.160
Yeah, probably. Like this is my fire truck now. There's no time pressure.

01:21:22.160 --> 01:21:25.160
Yeah, he owns it. Yeah.

01:21:25.160 --> 01:21:29.440
So if we want to cool a PC with it or we want to, guys, feel free, that would be another

01:21:29.440 --> 01:21:34.760
good thing for merch messages. I really... Dan, if you want to filter merch messages that have like legitimately good ideas for

01:21:34.760 --> 01:21:39.440
fire truck videos, I'd send those over to David or something like we're open to ideas

01:21:39.440 --> 01:21:42.440
here, guys. We got a fire truck. So permanent...

01:21:42.440 --> 01:21:46.640
I want Alex to try to come up with some automatic anti-foam.

01:21:46.820 --> 01:21:50.100
Fire protection system for a computer. And I want you guys to put it...

01:21:50.100 --> 01:21:53.100
You don't put on electrical fires with water, but okay.

01:21:53.100 --> 01:21:56.700
It doesn't have to be the computer that's on fire.

01:21:56.700 --> 01:21:59.700
Oh, sure. Yeah. Okay.

01:21:59.700 --> 01:22:04.580
So then my idea is that we go to the training field and we actually light a mini house on

01:22:04.580 --> 01:22:10.860
fire and you have to put the fire out with the fire truck and then go see if Alex's creation

01:22:10.860 --> 01:22:13.860
survived. That's... I want that to happen.

01:22:13.860 --> 01:22:19.000
We are working on an AI turret. We're working on a related project. So we could buy the turret.

01:22:19.000 --> 01:22:23.640
Apparently it's a couple grand. And then we could like computer control the fire turret.

01:22:23.640 --> 01:22:26.640
Yeah. Put like a fire. Oh yeah.

01:22:26.640 --> 01:22:30.240
AI is coming for like software developers and writers and artists and stuff. What about firefighters?

01:22:30.240 --> 01:22:34.960
Do you want your life in the hands of an AI program?

01:22:34.960 --> 01:22:41.760
Oh my God. We should put... Before we light the house on fire, we should put some mannequins in the Windows and stuff.

01:22:41.760 --> 01:22:45.780
Just like put some streaming cameras in there, like some low-cost streaming cameras.

01:22:45.780 --> 01:22:51.140
Just watch them get decked by the fire. And just like watch them get like absolutely obliterated, get their like heads knocked off

01:22:51.140 --> 01:22:57.300
by the fire hose. Get one of those like Boston Dynamics dogs to just like bite and haul out the thing and

01:22:57.300 --> 01:23:01.500
drag it along the ground. Oh my goodness. Because nobody's there to carry them out.

01:23:01.500 --> 01:23:08.500
Amazing. So yeah, let us know if you have any good ideas, guys.

01:23:08.500 --> 01:23:13.400
I really, I'm trying to find any way to shoehorn lighting a small house on fire and having

01:23:13.400 --> 01:23:20.200
you guys put it out. That's why I came up with the like Alex build some fire self-defense system for a computer.

01:23:20.200 --> 01:23:25.680
I will consider it. It might be too challenging getting like servos that are big enough to move a firefighting

01:23:25.680 --> 01:23:31.560
turret. I don't know. But anyway, our discussion questions here, did you have fun making the video?

01:23:31.560 --> 01:23:37.800
Absolutely. It was a blast. The intro for today's WAN Show was an absolute blast to make, even though I didn't know about

01:23:37.820 --> 01:23:46.940
it until I watched it right before we started. If you look carefully, it's just the miced parts of it are just spliced together with

01:23:46.940 --> 01:23:49.980
new stuff from Luke from the April Fool's video.

01:23:49.980 --> 01:23:54.560
And there's one shot that has both of us in it that they apparently used a body double

01:23:54.560 --> 01:23:57.580
for. Nobody like asked me if I wanted to do it.

01:23:57.580 --> 01:24:00.580
They were just sitting there. You weren't here when we were doing it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:24:00.580 --> 01:24:03.580
That's fine. I don't know where you were, but yeah. And our other discussion question.

01:24:03.580 --> 01:24:07.280
Yeah, we used Thomas. Yeah. Did you have fun making the video?

01:24:07.280 --> 01:24:12.240
And David, who worked on our April Fool's again, an absolute rock star.

01:24:12.240 --> 01:24:15.240
He's like the king of April Fool's at this point. Did he kill it last year?

01:24:15.240 --> 01:24:20.560
He killed it this year. Yeah, I had fun, but I need 364 days before I'm going to make another one.

01:24:20.560 --> 01:24:25.120
This is a joke, but not really. I'm so tired.

01:24:25.120 --> 01:24:30.640
Artie apparently has a merge message update down below.

01:24:30.640 --> 01:24:34.600
Where is it? In the middle? How am I supposed to know what the update is?

01:24:34.620 --> 01:24:37.740
Can you please sign the fire trucks live? Artie messed up.

01:24:37.740 --> 01:24:45.660
Discount codes. Oh, the discount codes weren't applying, but we will resolve any carts where the whales

01:24:45.660 --> 01:24:48.980
were added at full price, so don't worry about it. We got you.

01:24:48.980 --> 01:24:56.820
Where's the... I don't see the Sharpie though.

01:24:56.820 --> 01:24:59.820
Just in front of the... Oh, I see it. Okay.

01:24:59.820 --> 01:25:02.820
Cool. And where are all the trucks? I know one of them is in this room.

01:25:02.820 --> 01:25:08.940
They're all behind you. There are definitely disadvantages to this set.

01:25:08.940 --> 01:25:12.740
It's not a flawless system. Dan should be...

01:25:12.740 --> 01:25:15.740
Oh my goodness. Okay. Yeah, it's like right behind you.

01:25:15.740 --> 01:25:19.340
You know how you've been working on your shoulder flexibility? Yeah. Well, we're putting that to the test.

01:25:19.340 --> 01:25:22.340
I can climb down. Oh my gosh. No, don't do that.

01:25:22.340 --> 01:25:26.180
It's very easy. I don't think that would be best. Don't do that.

01:25:26.180 --> 01:25:30.420
Okay. Where should we sign these things? Got to sign our fire trucks here.

01:25:30.420 --> 01:25:33.420
Fire rescue. Okay. Well, first things first.

01:25:33.540 --> 01:25:37.020
One, you got to be kidding me. This is a completely different engine here.

01:25:37.020 --> 01:25:40.020
Okay. Okay. And then...

01:25:40.020 --> 01:25:45.020
Yeah, sure. I'll sign it here. Are you going to number them all because they're all engine one?

01:25:45.020 --> 01:25:48.420
So you're going to make them engine one, two, three to like serialize them?

01:25:48.420 --> 01:25:52.220
I think that's pretty smart. That was not the direction that I went with it.

01:25:52.220 --> 01:25:56.220
All right. What did you do? Where did you even go?

01:25:56.220 --> 01:26:00.220
Oh. Nice. That's legit.

01:26:00.220 --> 01:26:05.220
All right. Are you serializing them now or should I do it?

01:26:05.220 --> 01:26:08.220
Yeah. No, I'm serializing them. I got you.

01:26:08.220 --> 01:26:18.220
I got you. So we got engine 69, engine 169, engine 269.

01:26:18.220 --> 01:26:23.540
Okay. And there's a chance that these will be in your order of the commuter bag, which includes

01:26:23.540 --> 01:26:26.540
a free whale plushie. Oh, right, right, right.

01:26:26.540 --> 01:26:30.540
I guess you need the Sharpie. That makes sense. Yes, yes, yes.

01:26:30.540 --> 01:26:36.100
No, I think, oh my goodness, Luke, your toy fire truck is going off.

01:26:36.100 --> 01:26:41.460
I will see your toy fire truck.

01:26:41.460 --> 01:26:44.460
And I will raise you. No, he didn't do it. Sorry.

01:26:44.460 --> 01:26:47.460
Oh, he might be. He might be. Dan.

01:26:47.460 --> 01:26:50.460
Ah! Ah! One real fire truck.

01:26:50.460 --> 01:26:53.460
We can even shake it. Yeah.

01:26:53.460 --> 01:26:58.820
Yeah. Real fire truck. It is a real fire truck.

01:26:58.820 --> 01:27:04.780
What are we supposed to be doing right now, Dan? I think you had started another topic and now you can do another topic.

01:27:04.780 --> 01:27:07.780
Sure, let's do a topic. Did we finish the fire truck topic?

01:27:07.780 --> 01:27:10.780
Yeah, I think so. I think so. Yes, we did.

01:27:10.780 --> 01:27:13.860
Yeah, I think so. Good job, everyone.

01:27:13.860 --> 01:27:17.740
Remember when I asked the audience if I should buy this car? No, let's do a real topic.

01:27:17.740 --> 01:27:23.540
Okay. LG TVs are going to be losing Google Assistant on May the 1st.

01:27:23.540 --> 01:27:28.140
Currently, if you have an LG OLED TV connected to the internet, you can access the Google

01:27:28.140 --> 01:27:32.060
Assistant by linking to your account and using the microphone built into the remote.

01:27:32.060 --> 01:27:36.820
However, this appears to be going away as a Google Assistant service termination pop-up

01:27:36.820 --> 01:27:42.420
has started appearing on LG TVs, noting that the change will take place effective May 1st,

01:27:42.420 --> 01:27:49.220
2025. I, David Pankratz, who is a helper for the writing team, saw this pop-up on my TV at

01:27:49.220 --> 01:27:52.500
home just last night.

01:27:52.500 --> 01:27:57.100
Basic voice controls will still be available, serviced through LG's Think app.

01:27:57.220 --> 01:28:02.140
Samsung also lost Google Assistant functionality back in March of 2024.

01:28:02.140 --> 01:28:06.580
And our discussion question is basically not a question, is that this blows.

01:28:06.580 --> 01:28:13.580
And when you buy a connected product, there appears to be simply no guarantee whatsoever

01:28:13.580 --> 01:28:19.180
that the advertised feature set will remain throughout the entire lifetime of the product.

01:28:19.180 --> 01:28:25.940
And there appears to be absolutely no recourse for customers whatsoever or compensation given

01:28:25.940 --> 01:28:31.300
to these customers. And I just don't really understand how this works.

01:28:31.300 --> 01:28:38.420
You know, like if I sold you a backpack, let's say, and I said it has two layers in

01:28:38.420 --> 01:28:43.860
the bottom. And then hypothetically, let's say you found out that it didn't.

01:28:43.860 --> 01:28:49.500
Are you not owed, at the very least, some compensation?

01:28:49.500 --> 01:28:53.500
I thought so, which is why we offer people gift cards or a refund.

01:28:53.500 --> 01:28:57.340
So where is my gift card? Where is my refund?

01:28:57.340 --> 01:29:01.780
This is not the product you sold me. And you know what? For most people, it might not be materially different.

01:29:01.780 --> 01:29:05.180
But I was looking at discussions about this online and someone brought up a really good

01:29:05.180 --> 01:29:12.500
point. They have relatives that have physical disabilities that make it very challenging to operate their

01:29:12.500 --> 01:29:17.620
TV with a remote. And they extensively used voice controls.

01:29:17.620 --> 01:29:20.740
Well, so much for that.

01:29:21.740 --> 01:29:27.980
Yeah, I think it comes down to that software is you don't you don't own that portion of

01:29:27.980 --> 01:29:31.940
it so they can they can see whatever you want. You numbered two of them, 169.

01:29:31.940 --> 01:29:37.220
Oh, the other one is that's a two. No, it's a two.

01:29:37.220 --> 01:29:40.980
That's a two. It's a really narrow two. That's a two.

01:29:40.980 --> 01:29:46.340
Yeah, it's a two. It's got a little thing at the top and a little thing on the bottom.

01:29:46.340 --> 01:29:52.580
It's a two. Well, I didn't have a lot of space, Luke. I couldn't draw a big loopy two.

01:29:52.580 --> 01:29:55.580
Were you a loopy two kid? Yeah, with the loop.

01:29:55.580 --> 01:29:59.780
Yeah, I was a loopy. I was a loopy two kid, too. So in summary, that sucks.

01:29:59.780 --> 01:30:06.420
LG do better. Now we should probably OK, let's do I'll do another quick one.

01:30:06.420 --> 01:30:11.260
This is not really like news news, but I saw it for the first time. I thought it was cool.

01:30:11.260 --> 01:30:15.020
There's a company mass producing coin size nuclear batteries in China.

01:30:15.020 --> 01:30:19.700
The company beta volt showed off a nuclear battery using a combination of fourth generation

01:30:19.700 --> 01:30:26.620
diamond semiconductor and a radioactive isotope of nickel, nickel 63 that could power a device,

01:30:26.620 --> 01:30:32.860
a low power device, mind you, it does up to 100 micro watts at three volts, OK, power

01:30:32.860 --> 01:30:40.300
a device for up to 50 years and measures just 15 by 15 by five millimeters with a larger

01:30:40.300 --> 01:30:44.180
one watt version expected in 2025.

01:30:44.180 --> 01:30:50.740
The nickel eventually decays into non radioactive copper popular mechanics reported last week

01:30:50.740 --> 01:30:54.620
that the batteries are now in mass production and will be used for medical and aerospace

01:30:54.620 --> 01:30:58.300
devices and could even be used in future smartphones.

01:30:58.300 --> 01:31:04.940
I have to get the power output up a fair amount, but I mean, one watt is pretty good.

01:31:04.940 --> 01:31:08.020
If we're if we're able to do one watt today, maybe we can do more.

01:31:08.020 --> 01:31:11.020
Oh, yeah, things advance. Yeah, for sure. Dude, this sounds crazy.

01:31:11.020 --> 01:31:15.940
All nuclear batteries have been used in space travel since the 1960s, and there were even

01:31:15.940 --> 01:31:20.140
nuclear powered pacemakers in the 1970s.

01:31:20.140 --> 01:31:29.220
Jordan made a mock up of how small this thing is. It is under the light control panel, the thing in the middle should be just right there.

01:31:29.220 --> 01:31:32.580
Oh, wow. That's how small this battery is.

01:31:32.580 --> 01:31:37.260
That's wild. It's like a keycap size, almost. That is so cool.

01:31:37.260 --> 01:31:40.660
It kind of helps that we don't have a separate can for this because you can tell it's it's

01:31:40.700 --> 01:31:44.220
like it's in my fingers there. Yeah, it's really small.

01:31:44.220 --> 01:31:49.500
Well, yeah, it's really small. It's like a keycap.

01:31:49.500 --> 01:31:53.660
That is super cool. It is.

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All right, what do you want to talk about?

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Now we can do anything we want. All the obligatory stuff is out of the way.

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I'd put the siren back on if I could do anything I wanted.

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What do we got here? Okay.

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Why is it so hard to reach?

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I think you're supposed to engage the power before you, like, as you get in.

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All right, do you think? Oh, right. Oh, the horn.

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I thought you said siren. I did.

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Okay. Pump faked. We can do the siren, too.

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Do it. Do it. Do you want to go on the, do you want to go on the radio?

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Where's the... There. Oh, yeah, yeah.

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Yeah, that works. Here. Uh, yeah, you gotta set it to radio, though.

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I think it's man.

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Uh, Mr. Vesser? Mr. Vesser, can I drink coffee?

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Mr. Vesser, 10-4, do you copy?

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What? I can't hear anything now. I don't know how much of that they can make out.

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Yeah, I don't know. Oh, man.

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Incredible. All right. Uh, well, okay, what do we got here?

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Joan Monarch asks, did I miss the tariff tips?

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Should we do it? We can do it. Let's talk about...

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Yeah. Let's talk about tariffs. U.S. administration tariffs spark incoming price pains.

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Who could have seen this coming?

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The current U.S. administration has announced sweeping new tariffs under a plan dubbed Liberation

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Day, including a baseline 10% tariff on everything imported to the U.S. plus reciprocal tariffs

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based on how each country allegedly treats U.S. exporters.

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These new tariffs reach as high as 46%.

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Among those hit hardest, PC builders and tech buyers.

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Countries like China, 34%. Taiwan, 32%.

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South Korea, 25%. And Vietnam, 46%.

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And some other kind of hilarious countries.

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Are all major sources of SSDs, RAM, GPUs, PC cases, laptops, and basically everything

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in your rig. Boutique builders like Main Gear and Falcon Northwest are already warning of 20% to 25%

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price hikes. These companies build PCs in the U.S. but rely almost exclusively on parts from Asia.

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Parts that... I'm sorry, but the cold hard truth is that nobody is going to be making in North America

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anytime soon.

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Shortages are already reappearing as suppliers scramble to relocate their production.

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Even GPUs, which were already a pricing mess, are taking a hit.

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New manufacturing lines in China are being paused to shift production to countries that

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now also have high tariffs, so there's seemingly nowhere left to hide.

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Semiconductors are seemingly exempt, but the machines that are needed to make them

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and products that those semiconductors are pre-installed in are not.

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Meaning that we could see higher fab costs down the road, especially if companies want

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to expand outside the U.S.

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How were these tariffs calculated? Economist James Surwiki says that it appears that the White House simply divided the U.S.

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trade deficit by each country's exports to the U.S.

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For example, the United States imports 28 billion from Indonesia and exports 10 billion

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equals 64 percent tariff. That is like if I asked my kids to figure it out.

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Well you can ask Chad GPT and then it gives you a pretty similar thing.

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But if you're trying to balance trade deficits, like okay, but they said that these were tariffs

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and these were reciprocal because there was tariffs there and that's just flat out not true.

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But also there's nuance. Say for example, I mean, wow, okay, all right.

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So that's something that people are going to need to deal with.

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Through Cambodia getting hit with the old 97 percent.

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So yeah, I mean, I guess the good thing about this is that a lot of people who hadn't figured

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it out before are kind of figured, well, as the youth say, finding out now.

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Right, yes. There's an interesting political thing with this.

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Have you looked at the actual chart itself and the countries listed on it?

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No, I haven't. I've seen recreations of the rates.

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Like I've looked at tables of it, but no, I haven't looked at the exact chart. The fourth country on the list is Taiwan specifically named.

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Well, that's cool. It's interesting.

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It's actually very interesting. I think it's cool. In my opinion. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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I mean, I think I've been pretty upfront that I think we both have.

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I just I want the country. I'm surprised.

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I'll say that much. Taiwan has its own federal government.

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I mean, I is that they could be invaded by another country that sovereign

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government could be replaced.

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But if you have your own federal government, you are a country, right?

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Yeah, I haven't verified this myself, but someone in chat said it also includes

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several uninhabited islands. Yeah, I saw that. I heard that it includes a country of 3,000 people.

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Yeah, it includes at least one like island that literally doesn't

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export anything to the U.S. What, which one?

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I forget. Because I've heard people say that, but I haven't looked into these things.

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But yeah, pretty great. Pretty great. I don't see Canada here.

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You'll find Canada eventually.

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Yeah, there are some countries that curiously dodged tariffs.

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So that's interesting. It's weird that it's in no order. Like it's not in a it doesn't it's not in alphabetical order.

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It's not in like size of the tariffs order. It's not in size of the reciprocal tariffs order.

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It's just it's just seems to be totally random.

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Yeah, I only have a picture of two of them.

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Canada is not included in that list. It has separate tariffs. Ah, very cool, very good, very nice, very demure.

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Oh, man. Well, yeah.

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Good luck, everybody. So let's talk about LTT Store.

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I have this is scripted from Teran, so I'm not going to deviate too much from it.

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Apparently a U.S. military base is in the list of tariffs.

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Sorry, that's really funny. OK, we can keep going.

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Unless you're just joining the show, you've probably heard about the broad tariffs.

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I think the original draft of this said unless you've been living under a rock,

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I see someone's done another pass. Anyway, you've probably heard about the broad tariffs

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that have already come into effect or will on May the 2nd.

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We've seen some questions about what this will mean for pricing on LTT Store.com.

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Well, the team has been working diligently behind the scenes basically

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since last November to minimize the total costs to our customers,

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who we recognize are not the people that we are at trade war with.

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And I'm going to share some of these initiatives with you, including one,

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offsetting some of the cost of tariffs by negotiating with our suppliers

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to help ensure that we are getting the best costs possible

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so that we can keep our prices reasonable for you.

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Number two, exploring new manufacturing locations,

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though, as we just discussed recently, where now?

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I don't know. OK, sure. Number three, rolling out Canadian pricing for Canadian customers.

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Soon, TM working on it because in the past,

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there's been really no point because our costs are in USD

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because that's traditionally been the international currency of international trade.

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And our pricing has been derived from our costs plus some markup.

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So there was really not much point in us having a CAD price.

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But now our pricing in USD

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is going to be derived from our cost in USD

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plus, pardon my French, bullshit tariffs

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plus our margin so they no longer get to be equivalent.

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Some of the delay I'm just adding here, some of the delay

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there is we never expected this. So a lot of the things that we built for the store

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were built expecting one store to exist.

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So some of our stuff needs to be adapted to be able to support more than one store,

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which is maybe useful in the future. I don't know, but work that needs to be done.

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And number four is that we are rapidly

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accelerating our efforts to explore localized fulfillment

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so we can get our products to you faster with lower shipping costs.

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This will be a phased approach. It's going to take time.

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Unfortunately, none of these things is a magic bullet.

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We're going to do our best to hold existing prices on whatever we can afford.

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But customers should expect that cost will go up as we approach May the second.

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We will do everything in our power to minimize the impact of the tariffs

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on what you pay for your products, but this tariff situation is tough.

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It's tough on us. We don't want to raise prices and it's tough on you.

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You do not want to pay higher prices.

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The one thing that we can always control and that we will continue to control

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is that we will provide our customers with excellent high quality products

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and with outstanding trust me, bro support.

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And we'll do that no matter what external forces arise.

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So that's how the returns work. So I'll have to say about that.

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Well, we'll probably just end up eating some stuff there. Yikes. I don't know. I mean, look.

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I never actually thought about this before. But yeah, if you buy something, get it tariffed on the way in.

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I'm sure you don't get a refund for your tariff when you return it.

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I actually don't. I have no idea. We've never had to deal with this.

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Yeah, that's the thing. And I'm not necessarily convinced that the effort is being made to staff

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the organization, the government organizations that are supposed to be

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dealing with all of this to make the experience smooth and fast.

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Will full plane pricing be going up as well? I don't think there's a.

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We have no plans to alter anything about Floatplane pricing. Like, like I said, look, we are not one of those kinds of companies

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that looks for inflation in a headline or, you know,

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or takes a global emergency like COVID and uses it as an opportunity

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to raise our pricing. Like I see a ton of criticism all the time of how expensive our products are

01:47:25.020 --> 01:47:31.740
for crying out loud. Find me another merch store that sells high quality printed T-shirts for 20 bucks.

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Show me another creator who sells that for 20 bucks that matches our quality.

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The quality is outstanding as proven by Project Farm, right?

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Like it is. We do try our best.

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We have to make money. That's how we survive. That's how we make the content that you guys enjoy.

01:47:51.460 --> 01:47:56.340
That's how we pay the people you like, you know, like hopefully we have to make money, right?

01:47:56.740 --> 01:48:00.900
But we're not we're not predatory. We're not trying to be unreasonable or anything.

01:48:00.900 --> 01:48:04.780
So we're not going to say like, oh, there's there's tariffs and general uncertainty.

01:48:04.780 --> 01:48:10.180
So we're going to jack up float playing pricing. I have telegraphed already in the past that we are going to have to increase

01:48:10.180 --> 01:48:14.500
float playing pricing at some point. But we're not going to claim that it's because of this.

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It's just because, hey, we haven't touched pricing in eight years.

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Something like that. Yeah.

01:48:22.260 --> 01:48:25.220
And we have a lot more resources that go into float playing now.

01:48:25.340 --> 01:48:31.780
We have dedicated people that work on nothing but float playing now. So and I mean, on the content side, like the LTT side,

01:48:31.780 --> 01:48:35.340
I don't mean on the float playing media side. We always had dedicated people there.

01:48:35.340 --> 01:48:39.180
And I mean that in both senses, the float playing team is incredible, very dedicated.

01:48:41.580 --> 01:48:46.500
Where was I? Where was I going with that? Right. So yeah, we're not going to like make excuses and just like jack up prices.

01:48:46.500 --> 01:48:50.180
That's not our way, but there will be an impact.

01:48:50.180 --> 01:48:56.860
Like if our cost on something to deliver it to you goes up by, you know, tens of percent.

01:48:58.300 --> 01:49:02.060
I don't have that kind of margin to just absorb it on everything.

01:49:03.420 --> 01:49:07.660
And I don't think it's reasonable to say, oh, well, you know, Linus,

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you should just you should just eat it. You should just make nothing on this.

01:49:11.660 --> 01:49:15.660
Why? What did I do such that I should do that?

01:49:16.100 --> 01:49:19.460
And are you OK telling everyone that works here that they don't get raises

01:49:19.700 --> 01:49:23.180
because we're making literally nothing?

01:49:24.700 --> 01:49:28.460
Wouldn't even just be if we're making literally nothing, then people are getting fired.

01:49:28.460 --> 01:49:33.620
Well, that wouldn't be fired. So there's an important distinction between fired and laid off.

01:49:33.620 --> 01:49:36.820
Fired is dismissed for lack of performance.

01:49:37.220 --> 01:49:42.420
Laid off is dismissed for lack of work for the company to do for you.

01:49:42.620 --> 01:49:46.780
So I would consider that to be more of a layoff than a termination.

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Couple of questions. People outside of the US or Canada are wondering if anything's going to happen to their pricing.

01:49:53.300 --> 01:49:56.300
No, like I said, we're not looking for excuses to jack up pricing.

01:49:57.580 --> 01:50:02.980
And we don't expect, you know, our European customers to subsidize the business

01:50:02.980 --> 01:50:08.420
that will inevitably be reduced to our to our to our friends down south.

01:50:08.420 --> 01:50:13.340
And I mean that, right? Like, there's a lot of Canadians that are, you know, all very, you know,

01:50:13.340 --> 01:50:20.860
America or whatever, right? I'm not we we have many people who we consider to be friends of of ourselves,

01:50:20.860 --> 01:50:24.900
whether that's personally, we have we have friends of our business, you know,

01:50:24.900 --> 01:50:29.260
the people who who's helped who have supported us for all these years, right?

01:50:29.260 --> 01:50:35.180
Like we are we are we have absolutely we bear no ill will to the American people

01:50:35.180 --> 01:50:40.820
who have done absolutely nothing. And quite frankly, will be the one suffering the brunt of a lot of this.

01:50:40.940 --> 01:50:44.860
It's going to be rough. Like we we're not looking to add insult to injury for y'all, right?

01:50:46.060 --> 01:50:48.700
We just also have to survive. Yeah.

01:50:55.140 --> 01:51:03.580
Well. Survive with our scenic mode on Vizio TV's as users report.

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This is so upsetting. Interest.

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Vizio TV user reports scenic mode. Interest versus relaxing ambient content interspersed with political ads.

01:51:16.540 --> 01:51:22.420
What? Last week, Reddit user double jumps claimed if I leave my Vizio TV idol,

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it plays calming nature videos, calming music, and then loops a message from the

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Trump admin telling illegal immigrants to get out over and over and over again.

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Link to Reddit post with the ad in question. Double jumps followed it up with I left it on to see if it would do it again.

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And it played the whole video again after about 20 minutes, just the once this time.

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This behavior comes out of scenic mode, a feature that displays relaxing ambient content when your TV is idle for a

01:51:54.460 --> 01:51:58.580
period of time. Scenic mode is free, but supported by ads with no options.

01:52:01.460 --> 01:52:08.260
TVs are so crap these days. Luke, you thought you thought you were jumping into a topic that would be like

01:52:08.260 --> 01:52:11.860
happy? Yeah, I did, to be completely honest. You were excited for scenic mode.

01:52:11.860 --> 01:52:14.620
I just read scenic mode. I didn't read the rest of it.

01:52:16.020 --> 01:52:20.460
Oh, man. Oh, man, you got you got bamboozled.

01:52:20.500 --> 01:52:24.340
This is brutal. Scenic mode is free as it should be,

01:52:25.660 --> 01:52:29.860
but supported by ads, which is ridiculous with no option to turn the ad

01:52:29.860 --> 01:52:35.700
content off, which is ridiculous. Settings exist to turn off sound in scenic mode or to disable scenic mode

01:52:35.700 --> 01:52:41.700
completely bamboozled. Yeah, you have the option to turn off this thing that is totally free, but

01:52:41.700 --> 01:52:48.340
supported by ads. Okay, dude, that is so funny. Ours, Technica reports that they were unable to replicate this particular ad

01:52:48.380 --> 01:52:52.940
internally and had not seen other reports of Vizio TV owners seeing it.

01:52:52.940 --> 01:52:57.060
Okay. Vizio has had ties to political ads in the past.

01:52:57.260 --> 01:53:01.820
In a Vizio case study, they state Vizio recently worked with a political

01:53:01.820 --> 01:53:07.260
candidate on an ad campaign that combined CTV ads with our Household Connect

01:53:07.780 --> 01:53:14.620
OmniChannel feature to reach potential voters both on their TV

01:53:14.660 --> 01:53:21.060
sets and on other opted-in devices like laptop, computers, mobile phones and tablets.

01:53:21.260 --> 01:53:27.340
Okay, so they clearly do work with political advertisers.

01:53:28.460 --> 01:53:33.100
So our discussion question is, would you pay extra for a TV that is not

01:53:33.140 --> 01:53:37.380
subsidized by ads and telemetry being sent back to the manufacturer?

01:53:37.860 --> 01:53:42.260
I mean, it's such a hypothetical question because if you want a high quality

01:53:42.300 --> 01:53:45.780
set, like high image quality, that's what you're getting.

01:53:45.900 --> 01:53:48.140
Yep. With that said, you know what?

01:53:49.820 --> 01:53:56.500
My TCL TV, because it's a China model, doesn't serve me.

01:53:56.500 --> 01:54:00.380
There's no ad servers. I don't think I've never seen an ad on it.

01:54:00.380 --> 01:54:06.180
Whoa. I have it configured to go straight to my usual source because I use an AVR.

01:54:06.340 --> 01:54:11.140
And you didn't. So all my sources go into that and then just one connection goes. So it just goes straight to input two.

01:54:11.340 --> 01:54:18.500
You had to individually import that, right? Yeah. So the new bougie thing for TV owners is to individually import them from China

01:54:18.500 --> 01:54:23.420
so you don't get ads. Or from some other region. That won't have ad servers for North America.

01:54:23.460 --> 01:54:27.260
Yeah. Ahead of the curve again.

01:54:27.260 --> 01:54:31.660
Interesting. Let's go. That's kind of sick. And drive around in your fire truck.

01:54:33.700 --> 01:54:36.700
Yeah. Nice. Yeah. Oh my goodness.

01:54:36.700 --> 01:54:43.420
This is so ridiculous. I mean, we're going to have to maybe revisit Piehole.

01:54:43.540 --> 01:54:47.900
Just kind of see what. This is genuinely absurd.

01:54:48.140 --> 01:54:52.860
Like I can't stand this like we're shoving ads into everything.

01:54:53.140 --> 01:54:56.580
The fact that Windows has ads is offensive to me.

01:54:56.980 --> 01:55:00.220
The fact that a TV can just force it down your throat is absurd.

01:55:00.420 --> 01:55:06.820
Like this is not. And like there's the problem is there isn't a capitalistic answer here.

01:55:07.180 --> 01:55:10.300
You can't vote with your wallet and buy one that doesn't have the ads.

01:55:10.300 --> 01:55:15.820
It can. Stone Monarch says you can get business grade TVs that send some of them

01:55:15.820 --> 01:55:19.300
like digital signage are different, but you can apparently get business

01:55:19.300 --> 01:55:22.940
grade TVs that are just consumer ones without the smart garbage, but they cost

01:55:22.980 --> 01:55:27.540
a lot more. I don't think that's going to send the right message.

01:55:27.820 --> 01:55:31.100
Yeah. Well, yeah. Giving them way more money is not going to send the right message.

01:55:31.100 --> 01:55:34.220
No, but it's also I don't think it's necessarily going to I think their

01:55:34.220 --> 01:55:37.780
analytics would not report. Hey, users didn't want to buy the ad supported ones.

01:55:37.860 --> 01:55:40.940
No, not even a little bit. They're not going to get the right answer from this.

01:55:40.940 --> 01:55:45.460
So the whole voting with your wallet thing, you're not casting a vote by doing that. No, you're getting the result you want.

01:55:45.500 --> 01:55:50.060
You're giving like this whole companies that screwed you.

01:55:50.100 --> 01:55:53.260
Businesses, it's not no ad tax. It's business tax.

01:55:53.260 --> 01:55:56.820
Business things just cost more money because they know that businesses will pay for it.

01:56:00.820 --> 01:56:02.860
Man, brutal.

01:56:03.860 --> 01:56:12.780
Silver Sonic says, don't connect your TV to Wi-Fi. Actually, oh, OK, we have we're announcing a partnership with someone at some point.

01:56:13.020 --> 01:56:17.220
And as some part of it, I talk about how I like my NVIDIA Shield Pro.

01:56:18.300 --> 01:56:24.620
And the reason that I like it is that I use that instead of my TV's smart interface because

01:56:24.620 --> 01:56:28.500
especially because my TV doesn't have one properly because it's Chinese TV.

01:56:28.500 --> 01:56:31.660
So it has all these like Chinese streaming services and I don't think it's like Netflix

01:56:31.740 --> 01:56:35.340
certified and stuff like that. So I use my I use my Shield Pro.

01:56:35.340 --> 01:56:40.620
And yeah, it's a really good point because if you have a third party Android box connected

01:56:40.620 --> 01:56:45.260
to your TV, there's absolutely no reason that I can think of that you would need your TV

01:56:45.260 --> 01:56:50.300
connected to the network. And then if it's not connected to the network, then you're G to G.

01:56:50.300 --> 01:56:54.380
So that, you know, there you could do that. You shouldn't have to do that.

01:56:54.380 --> 01:56:57.820
You should be able to get updates and stuff. Sorry, what? No, I wasn't making it.

01:56:57.820 --> 01:56:58.940
Oh, nerd.

01:57:01.900 --> 01:57:06.620
Okay, what else we got? Gmail gets end to end encryption, but not really.

01:57:06.620 --> 01:57:10.460
On Tuesday, Google announced that end to end encrypted messages were coming to Gmail for

01:57:10.460 --> 01:57:17.180
business users. By definition, end to end encryption means Alice can send a message to Bob with the

01:57:17.180 --> 01:57:21.740
encryption and decryption happening on their end user devices.

01:57:21.740 --> 01:57:25.180
No one else should be able to decrypt the communications, even if the communications

01:57:25.180 --> 01:57:31.020
are routed through their systems, Google's in this case. But that is not the case with Google's implementation.

01:57:31.020 --> 01:57:36.060
If Bob's organization is using Gmail, then the organization manages Bob's encryption

01:57:36.060 --> 01:57:41.180
keys. So administrators with access to the keys can snoop on the communications at any time.

01:57:41.180 --> 01:57:44.700
That's okay. I see.

01:57:44.700 --> 01:57:48.140
That's probably a good thing as far as organizations are concerned.

01:57:49.820 --> 01:57:54.220
Needed that little caveat there on the end, but users should be aware that their messages

01:57:54.220 --> 01:57:58.300
are not private. And I think that's a fair statement. Here's a question for you.

01:57:59.260 --> 01:58:10.060
Do the users of corporate provided communications platforms think that their communications

01:58:10.060 --> 01:58:11.980
are private? Absolutely.

01:58:13.500 --> 01:58:15.340
Really? 100%.

01:58:18.940 --> 01:58:22.700
I said that like I couldn't believe it, but I do know that.

01:58:22.700 --> 01:58:32.780
We've done some investigations in the past where thankfully messages were sent that were

01:58:32.780 --> 01:58:35.900
very helpful in exonerating the company.

01:58:37.500 --> 01:58:40.220
Yeah, for sure. I'll put it that way. Yeah. I mean, there's lots.

01:58:42.060 --> 01:58:45.180
But I'm going to ask again, really?

01:58:46.300 --> 01:58:49.500
Would someone really be on like their corporate chat thinking?

01:58:49.500 --> 01:58:53.820
You know what? I'll say for people that think they're like in the know on this as well,

01:58:53.820 --> 01:58:56.940
something that I'll point out that people still, even people that think they're in the

01:58:56.940 --> 01:59:03.100
know on this sometimes find surprising is like in Slack or Teams, you can message yourself.

01:59:05.820 --> 01:59:09.020
That's still on the company program. Well, yeah.

01:59:10.940 --> 01:59:21.340
People think, wow, this is crazy. I 100% expect my communication to be private within my organization, only be viewable by

01:59:21.340 --> 01:59:24.860
the individuals that they are addressed to. No. Why would you expect that?

01:59:25.420 --> 01:59:26.940
I got to go delete some files.

01:59:31.020 --> 01:59:31.260
Like.

01:59:35.500 --> 01:59:41.820
Smarten up. And it like, you know, you might be at an organization where you feel like you can trust

01:59:41.820 --> 01:59:46.060
the administrators to a certain degree and blah, blah, blah, blah.

01:59:46.060 --> 01:59:50.460
But that doesn't change the fact that it could be looked into.

01:59:50.460 --> 01:59:53.660
Right? Like we, we did something. I don't even remember what it was. Dan might remember.

01:59:53.660 --> 01:59:59.580
We did something security wise, not that long ago, where we could see more activity of users

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on the network here at work. Was that Ninja, Dan? I believe it was Ninja and it was quite draconian.

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Yeah. Yeah. So we started seeing the things that we could do and sent out a company wide notice.

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Informing people that these things were possible, but we didn't have the intent of

02:00:16.860 --> 02:00:21.260
doing them. But we, despite not having the intent of doing them, we wanted to inform everyone that they

02:00:21.260 --> 02:00:26.940
were possible. Right. To, to kind of wake people up to the idea of like, this isn't your device.

02:00:26.940 --> 02:00:34.700
Unique username. This isn't your network. Unique username says, at Linus, I imagine there are some legal exceptions, but

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You know what? Why what? Like, no, no, no, no, no.

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It's, it's black and white. Right. If there is some legal reason that the company might need to access your communication, say,

02:00:47.580 --> 02:00:57.020
for example, if you were terminated and maliciously refused to give up information

02:00:57.020 --> 02:01:03.100
that the company needed to continue to operate. Like there was, there was that thing recently where buddy sabotaged the systems before he

02:01:03.100 --> 02:01:07.580
left a company or something like that. It's happened a few times. Yeah. The, the, the kill switch one, is that what you're talking about?

02:01:07.580 --> 02:01:12.620
Yeah. I think so. Yeah. Anyway, the point is there could be some reason that the company could need to go into your

02:01:12.620 --> 02:01:17.660
communications and, and have a valid reason for, for needing to access it.

02:01:18.700 --> 02:01:22.060
So they can. That's it. It's black and white.

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If there is any reason why they would need to be able to access it at all, and they are

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able to for any reason, then they are able to.

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So all, I, I'm not saying that it, I'm not saying if that's right.

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I'm not saying if that's reasonable. I'm saying that, that is, and that's what it is.

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So it's something that you should definitely be aware of.

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Stop using your corporate stuff for things that are private matters.

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I 100% use my corporate email for everything. And your corporate computer.

02:01:58.940 --> 02:02:01.980
You own the company. Yeah, that's a little different. I do too. I own the company.

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You're not going to fire me. But we'll have receipts, Luke.

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And if I do.

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We're going to put it out boys.

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I'm already deaf now. It's fine.

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I love this thing. I love this thing.

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You're a strange person and it's great. Okay, speaking of strangers, is that strange?

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Is not that strange. Intel and TSMC reportedly reach a preliminary agreement to form

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joint chip making venture on April 3rd. Intel and Taiwan semiconductor manufacturing co.

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TSMC reached a preliminary agreement to form a joint venture

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operating Intel's fabs in the US. TSMC will take a 20% stake in the new company,

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the White House and Commerce Department officials have been pressing TSMC and Intel to make some sort of deal to

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help resolve the long running crisis at Intel.

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I think also largely because the US wants to domesticate chip manufacturing, but okay.

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Intel reported a net loss for 2024 of $18.8 billion.

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It's first loss since 1986.

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And boy, howdy is it a big one. Last month, TSMC reportedly approached NVIDIA, AMD,

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reportedly is a very key word here, approached NVIDIA, AMD

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and Broadcom to take stakes in a joint venture operating

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Intel's factories. Later, NVIDIA and a TSMC board member denied these discussions.

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That's why I said reportedly. Also last month, TSMC said at a press event that it plans to

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make a fresh $100 billion investment in the US that involves

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building five additional chip facilities.

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This all comes very shortly after Intel appointed former board member, Lit Bhutan.

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There's your name in front of it as its CEO in March, 2025.

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So our discussion question is who can save us from a TSMC monopoly on high performance chip production?

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If TSMC literally has a 20% stake in the company that operates

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the fabs for their only reasonable competitor.

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Well, especially with the changes to American political

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global approach or however you want to call that,

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it is ridiculously in Taiwan's best interest to

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death grip that monopoly as hard as they can. So I suspect they will be doing so.

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PenoCat says, I lost a ton based on Linus's

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totally great investment advice on Intel. First of all, I do not give investment advice and I never have.

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Second of all, I said that if I was interested in it,

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it would be a very long term. Yeah, I remember that very specifically.

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Your form of long term might be different, but

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with my extremely ignorant stance on stock trading, this is not long form yet.

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In the long term, China will invade Taiwan.

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When that happens,

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any fab that is not on the island of Taiwan,

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any fab operator who does not have their key fabs on the island of Taiwan,

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is going to benefit.

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I'd love to be wrong. I would love very much to be wrong,

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but I haven't seen anything to indicate that that is not going to happen at some point.

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Okay, none of that is investment advice.

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Is that it? No, wait, maybe. Your car, the car.

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The car. That's it. That's the last one. We have, no, no, we have some announcements.

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Luke, we have some good news, some bad news, and then some good news for you.

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Good news number one. Remember those tall blank t-shirts you've been asking for?

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Yes, I do. Well, they're back, baby. They're in stock. They're the same comfy, long-lasting blend as our regular t-shirts,

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but a little longer for the more vertically gifted out there.

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I already bought five. We have both long sleeve and short sleeve t-shirts back in stock.

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You can get them now at LMG.gg slash tall tea.

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I didn't even wait to try to get a request in.

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Look how tall it is. Because I was warned that we were going to sold out.

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Who talks about a tall t-shirt? Because we have already.

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Tall tea, let's go. We have already sold out, sold, not sold out.

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We have already sold very many of them. Yes, without even announcing it on WAN Show,

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we sold an absolute butt ton of these.

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I told you you would. The bad news, we sold out of Sarah's latest Floatplane exclusive t-shirt.

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Were you able to grab one? No. The second good news, we restocked, baby.

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You restocked? If you're a new LTT Floatplane subscriber, we do a stream every few months

02:07:15.820 --> 02:07:22.060
where Sarah designs an exclusive t-shirt live with chat. This one sold out way faster than we thought it would,

02:07:22.060 --> 02:07:25.340
so we had to bring them back. And this time we set one aside for you, Luke.

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Check the glove box. Oh!

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Nice. Oh wait, there's one for you too.

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Oh, nice. Thank you. And there's a poster.

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Wait, there's two posters. Okay, there's lots of stuff in there.

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I did not know that was happening. I'm going to put my stuff. Okay, there we go.

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We don't really have a way to show this to you closer, but basically it's very cool, very cool print.

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If you want to check out all of the streams with Sarah collection items here,

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I'm just going to show them the digital version of this. It's LMG.gg slash streams with Sarah.

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And we've got a t-shirt print number three.

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How cute is this? Dorky dinos. Fantastic.

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It's so cute. Yeah, I went to go get it. My size was sold out.

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And then we've also got our wall art. Subscribe to LTT on Floatplane.

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Sign in to Floatplane to authenticate your account to unlock this item. Man, that's so cute.

02:08:22.540 --> 02:08:32.380
Cool. Everyone on Floatplane uses Firefox. That's why there's a legally distinct Fox with fire coming off of it on there.

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Anyway, guys, check it out. Also, the last thing on our announcement section is just want to shout out Yvonne's cousin.

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I told him I'd mention his new resort on Wanshow when I got back home. Resort.

02:08:41.340 --> 02:08:44.860
Yeah, I was like, oh, yeah, yeah, I'll totally talk about it on Wanshow

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when I talk about my trip to Bali. And then I just 100% didn't.

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So, sorry, Robin. Yeah.

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Blearest kangoo. It's super nice. It looks really nice.

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It's super nice.

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Some of these photos are wicked. Wait, did you click the link or something?

02:09:01.660 --> 02:09:05.820
Yeah, I mean. Okay, yeah. So it's got like a little courtyard here. And then these are the units.

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Do they have one of the rooftop things? At least some of the units have their own little pool.

02:09:11.100 --> 02:09:17.260
Which is pretty cool. Yeah, here's the view. So like, where is this?

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This is in Bali.

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That's one of the places that I went on my trip. The island of Bali.

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Okay, cool. Very nice. That's it. That's all we have to do.

02:09:34.620 --> 02:09:37.740
So now we've flipped over to after dark. No, we haven't. It's your car.

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Okay, do you remember us talking about a particularly

02:09:43.900 --> 02:09:47.420
ridiculous car that caught my eye back in the day?

02:09:47.420 --> 02:09:50.780
Are you genuinely asking if I remember or if they remember? You.

02:09:50.780 --> 02:09:59.420
Yes, I do. You remember. I remember this. Okay, so it's a pretty cool car if you're into, you know,

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soulless EVs that go really fast in a straight line.

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And I have no idea what the actual driving dynamics are like.

02:10:06.380 --> 02:10:10.700
But it's the Rimac-Navera, which made headlines for being A,

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I believe the first like actual production car to go like sub two seconds for it zero to 60.

02:10:18.220 --> 02:10:26.060
It may not have been the first, but it was certainly one of them. And it was like, while at the time, especially for a completely unheard of company that then

02:10:26.060 --> 02:10:29.900
went on to have a steak in Bugatti alongside Porsche.

02:10:29.900 --> 02:10:43.020
So they're doing stuff. They're moving. They're shaking. And also B, being one of the first, if not the first hypercar like priced over two million euro

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that was electric. Okay.

02:10:47.100 --> 02:10:53.900
Now, obviously that would have been a very silly purchase, especially when back then I had

02:10:53.900 --> 02:10:59.740
upcoming expenses that were far more important like buying a testing lab, you know, like,

02:10:59.740 --> 02:11:05.020
yeah, I with money that I saw a small price with money that was spent on this building.

02:11:05.020 --> 02:11:09.500
What do you mean? I could have bought a car and bought a bunch of cars and those numbers,

02:11:09.500 --> 02:11:14.860
those numbers are not as far apart as you might think because this building can be purchased

02:11:14.860 --> 02:11:20.940
with money that is post corporate income tax, but I don't have to pay personal tax on because

02:11:20.940 --> 02:11:26.860
a corporation owns it. A car, a corporation cannot own the car that I drive every day.

02:11:27.740 --> 02:11:31.340
Otherwise, everybody would use that loophole. Oh, yeah, it's a company car.

02:11:32.460 --> 02:11:39.260
What would you use it for? Getting my company groceries to put in my company fridge in my company house.

02:11:39.260 --> 02:11:43.740
All of that. Okay. Well, where's your personal car and your personal groceries and your personal fridge

02:11:43.740 --> 02:11:49.660
and your personal house? I was going to say, I think we do use a company vehicle to get company groceries sometimes.

02:11:49.660 --> 02:11:58.860
Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, but I mean, yeah, I just mean if it. So that car would have actually cost a lot more because I would have had to draw money

02:11:58.860 --> 02:12:02.620
out of the company and pay personal income tax on it in order to purchase that car.

02:12:02.620 --> 02:12:08.220
Whereas this building, we can buy with just post corporate income tax money as opposed to

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with like. Except I think the building costs a lot more.

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I did, but I'm just saying the car proportion actually costs probably in the neighborhood.

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All told, if we talk about like, like gross profits, like before we pay any taxes or anything,

02:12:25.340 --> 02:12:30.140
right, the car probably costs about a quarter what this building did.

02:12:31.180 --> 02:12:36.380
A quarter to a third. Yeah, because you pay so much more tax on the car.

02:12:36.380 --> 02:12:39.340
Don't forget, we have luxury tax on cars in British Columbia.

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So how much would it have been then? Unless you don't want to give those numbers.

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Well, no, so what's the top tax?

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Can you say how much the building was? I forget.

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Because that sounds nuts. I think the building was a, I don't know if that's legit.

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Oh crap. I don't, hold on. I don't remember. Oh wait, I'm looking at the current bid price.

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So don't look at that yet. Don't look at that yet. Don't look at that yet.

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So the retail price for the Rimac-Nivera is 2.2 million euro.

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Hold on a second. I don't know if she's going to answer this question, but I'm going to ask her.

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Hey. Hey lady, you're live on Wancho. Hey.

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Do you remember how much the lab cost?

02:13:23.820 --> 02:13:27.020
I think it was around 10 million. Okay.

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All right, cool. Thanks lady. Thanks, like really?

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Well, what do you mean is that it? No, I'm not. It's not a pop quiz. I don't know.

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Okay. I mean, if you want me to look it up, I have a spreadsheet on my computer. I'm just going off the top of my head right now.

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No, no, it's fine. If you say it's about that, then it's about that.

02:13:44.860 --> 02:13:49.420
Okay. I mean, you can actually look it up online. Because was it bought in the last three years?

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Because all those recent sales are in the last three years. You can people all the tips.

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Oh, sorry. Okay, bye. Okay, bye. Bye.

02:13:57.820 --> 02:14:01.900
Jeez. Oh shoot, I accidentally just called Taryn.

02:14:01.900 --> 02:14:05.420
Oh shoot, I just locked my phone. Oh shoot, shoot. What just happened?

02:14:05.980 --> 02:14:10.540
Okay, no, I uncalled Taryn. Okay, it's good. Um, anyway.

02:14:10.540 --> 02:14:13.180
So yeah, that's Yvonne for you. She knows all the things.

02:14:14.140 --> 02:14:19.500
Okay, so 10, okay. So first of all, that's Canadian dollars. So that's about, what is that?

02:14:19.500 --> 02:14:21.820
Oh shoot, Taryn's calling me back.

02:14:24.700 --> 02:14:27.420
You're live on the WAN Show. Never mind. I butt dialed you, sort of.

02:14:29.340 --> 02:14:32.780
I butt dialed you with my finger. Okay, bye. Okay, okay, bye.

02:14:32.780 --> 02:14:38.940
Oh, that sounds a lot dirtier than I meant for it to.

02:14:39.740 --> 02:14:42.860
It definitely did. Anyway.

02:14:42.860 --> 02:14:46.540
He played it off well. I think he noticed. Yeah, okay, okay.

02:14:46.540 --> 02:14:50.060
So first of all, that's Canadian dollars. Okay, basically Rubles.

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So that's only about 7, 6.5.

02:14:53.980 --> 02:14:57.820
Okay, that's about six and a half million US dollars. Oh man, I was way off.

02:14:59.100 --> 02:15:02.940
Oh, to Europe. Okay. The other, the Romero was in. No, no, hold on, we'll get there.

02:15:02.940 --> 02:15:05.980
We'll get there. Romero. Okay, so 10 million USD to CAD.

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Hold on, hold on. Dang it, 10 million CAD to USD.

02:15:11.820 --> 02:15:15.420
So it's about 7 million? About 7 million, about 7 million US dollars.

02:15:15.420 --> 02:15:20.300
Okay, so that car is 2.2 million euro.

02:15:20.300 --> 02:15:21.500
So what does that work out to Dan?

02:15:24.300 --> 02:15:29.100
About three and a half million Canadian dollars. But you just converted the other one to USD.

02:15:29.100 --> 02:15:32.700
Don't worry about it. Oh, right. Well, no, it's the whole point of the conversation.

02:15:33.500 --> 02:15:37.500
Two and a half USD, okay. So the car is 2.5 million USD.

02:15:37.500 --> 02:15:45.180
The building is 7 million USD. So already it's over a third of the price of the building.

02:15:45.180 --> 02:15:50.780
So you're gonna make up two thirds in taxes? And that's before, oh dude, easy.

02:15:50.780 --> 02:15:53.900
Have you seen the highest tax bracket in BC?

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Yes. Um, highest tax bracket BC.

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So it is 53.5%.

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So I don't pay all of that if I take out a dividend.

02:16:11.660 --> 02:16:14.700
I pay only approximately what remains

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after the company paid corporate tax, right?

02:16:18.300 --> 02:16:20.860
Because if the company paid me on the payroll,

02:16:21.420 --> 02:16:24.460
then that's a business expense. It pays zero tax.

02:16:24.940 --> 02:16:26.700
And I pay 53.5%.

02:16:28.300 --> 02:16:31.500
If the company takes that as profit

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and then just issues a dividend rather than paying me as part of my salary

02:16:35.020 --> 02:16:39.420
or part of my wages, then the way the government figured out the math

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is to make it so that it works out about the same. So it's not more efficient.

02:16:43.260 --> 02:16:48.700
One way, it used to be more efficient to not pay yourself a salary and to pay yourself a dividend like ages and ages ago.

02:16:48.700 --> 02:16:51.900
But by the time we started a business, it just didn't really matter. Yeah.

02:16:51.900 --> 02:16:55.420
So, so I think the corporate tax rate is like 20 something percent.

02:16:55.420 --> 02:17:01.980
So I would pay like another, another 33%. So we could say that my additional tax on that car

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would be about 33% compared to buying a building.

02:17:05.740 --> 02:17:08.940
So Dan, what does that work out to? 2.5 million plus 33%.

02:17:15.660 --> 02:17:23.740
I can hear him typing. He's got it. Yeah. 3.3 million.

02:17:23.740 --> 02:17:26.140
Okay. Now let's talk about the luxury tax.

02:17:28.540 --> 02:17:35.020
What's the luxury tax on a vehicle in BC? So it is 12%, 7%?

02:17:35.020 --> 02:17:38.060
Okay. That's cost of tax on vehicles. To avoid the luxury tax,

02:17:38.060 --> 02:17:41.100
you need to purchase a vehicle under $55,000. Yeah, that I'm not.

02:17:41.100 --> 02:17:46.940
No, I want to know how much it is. The luxury tax, the luxury tax is equal

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to the lesser of 10% of the taxable amount of the subject vehicle

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and 20% of the amount above the price threshold.

02:17:56.460 --> 02:18:06.460
So I believe the price threshold is about $100,000. So, $2.4 million, $20% of that.

02:18:07.420 --> 02:18:11.180
So another half a mil. You're still not there though.

02:18:11.180 --> 02:18:13.900
I am still there. That's like, that's over half the price of the building.

02:18:15.020 --> 02:18:18.380
Didn't you say okay? I might have thought you said someone else.

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So I could literally. I thought you said the car was more expensive than the building.

02:18:22.140 --> 02:18:25.180
No, no, no, no, no, no. Okay. No, no, no, no. That's why I was like, what are you talking about?

02:18:25.180 --> 02:18:33.660
No, no, no, no, no. I must have just heard you wrong. No, no, no, no. So that car, in terms of money that came into the company

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that was not paid out in expenses, would cost over half as much

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as the building that we have this fire truck parked in

02:18:44.540 --> 02:18:49.020
that has a fire truck in it. Including the fire truck.

02:18:49.660 --> 02:18:52.700
Yeah. Oh yeah. The fire truck has three fire trucks in it. Okay.

02:18:52.700 --> 02:18:58.460
So aside from it just being stupid, one of the points that was brought up by you,

02:18:58.460 --> 02:19:05.900
by Jake Tyvee, by the audience was that they didn't think that these Neveras were going to

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appreciate like many hypercars do.

02:19:08.940 --> 02:19:13.180
Yep. A lot of the time hypercars is like, it's a whole thing, right?

02:19:13.180 --> 02:19:18.300
It's an investment. Where if you're one of the people who's on the list where you're allowed to buy the super

02:19:18.300 --> 02:19:24.620
limited run ones, that's a huge benefit to you because you could like drive it for a year,

02:19:24.620 --> 02:19:31.180
play around with it, and then sell it for double what you paid. Because these things appreciate like crazy if they're super collectible.

02:19:32.140 --> 02:19:35.340
So this is an auction. Finally, we're getting to it.

02:19:35.340 --> 02:19:41.100
That I came across for a 2023 Ramac Nevera that showed up at my Google News feed.

02:19:42.060 --> 02:19:48.620
Like the old, sorry, just to cut you off. The old Ford GTs, for instance, like, oh my God, they are worth so much.

02:19:48.620 --> 02:19:54.220
That was bid to just 1.27 million US dollars.

02:19:54.220 --> 02:19:57.820
Do you have to pay luxury tax on that because it's used? Yes. Oh.

02:19:57.820 --> 02:20:00.380
Still have to pay luxury tax on used vehicles, I believe. Okay.

02:20:01.660 --> 02:20:07.180
This thing is almost brand new. It has 1,300 miles on it.

02:20:07.180 --> 02:20:11.180
What? I didn't see that. Basically untouched.

02:20:11.180 --> 02:20:14.700
Oh, wow. It is absolutely immaculate.

02:20:14.700 --> 02:20:18.060
It is pretty much brand new.

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It has the exposed carbon fiber trim option, which is apparently an 80,000 euro option.

02:20:28.220 --> 02:20:31.260
It has a 20,000 euro paint job.

02:20:31.260 --> 02:20:38.940
So this was a 2.3 million euro car and is now worth, at least on bringitrailer.com,

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less than half of what the owner paid for it.

02:20:43.820 --> 02:20:45.900
That is brutal.

02:20:49.100 --> 02:20:53.020
Now, it didn't meet reserve. It didn't actually sell, I believe.

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Hold on a second. Hold on. Control F, reserve.

02:20:59.820 --> 02:21:02.940
Hello? Is it searching? Control F. There we go.

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Reserve. Yeah. Reserve not met on this car.

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22 bids, dude.

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How happy am I that I bought a building that has depreciated by probably a solid 25%

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instead of a car that depreciated by 50% and to be clear, I'm not concerned about

02:21:24.140 --> 02:21:30.060
the building depreciation. It has depreciated a fair bit. The housing market in Vancouver is finally correcting.

02:21:30.060 --> 02:21:36.380
Thank you. The industrial market is finally correcting and even as somebody with a disproportionate

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amount of my net worth tied up in real estate, I am rooting for it.

02:21:39.900 --> 02:21:43.820
I am here for it. I have friends who can't afford to live.

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Like, it's not good. Has been for a long time and currently is very brutal trying to hire here.

02:21:52.860 --> 02:21:58.860
It is bad for our company. It is bad for our society for housing to be this expensive.

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I am 100% rooting for the housing market to massively correct here.

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So, I'm not upset about it and realistically, when you're an owner, operator, when you occupy

02:22:13.020 --> 02:22:17.100
your own property, the calculus is totally different because we are using this building

02:22:17.660 --> 02:22:22.140
to make money. I don't need the asset to appreciate. I'm not speculating on property here.

02:22:23.580 --> 02:22:26.700
Anyway, the point is I'm really glad I didn't buy that car.

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That is what that whole conversation was leading to.

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Me too. And you know what? I did buy a car that's probably depreciated by half.

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My Taycan is, I mean, here, we can find out actually.

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Yeah, we can find out. I did at least get a deal on it because I didn't pay luxury tax.

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That was used. Oh, actually, luxury, oh, the luxury tax and PST doesn't apply to used EVs.

02:22:50.140 --> 02:22:54.460
They're getting rid of that exemption though at the end of this month. Oh, it would have been a good time to buy a Nevera.

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No. No luxury tax, no PST. Let's go. 1.2 million dollar, half price.

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No. 50% off, baby. Anyway, the point is that I did end up buying a car that's probably worth half

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of what I paid for it, although I did at least get a deal.

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But it lost a lot less in like actual dollars than that stupid thing would have.

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You know what I've been having trouble figuring out is what the heck do people actually do with these cars?

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Park them. Well, yeah, apparently. Drive them to a car meetup.

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A few times a year. Because if I had something like that, it's only two seats.

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I can't take anybody anywhere in it. The main is on them is insane.

02:23:40.620 --> 02:23:43.740
I'd be terrified to park it somewhere. Yep.

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Like terrified. This is a single rock trip.

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Precisely why I said you shouldn't have bought one in the first place. I do remember having a conversation about saying if it was at least an ice car,

02:23:53.580 --> 02:23:59.260
those tend to- Yeah. There is some interesting investment strategies and stuff you can do there.

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I'm not knowledgeable enough to do that. I'm not a car guy. I don't know what the sexy good one is, so whatever.

02:24:04.540 --> 02:24:08.860
Yeah. But it wasn't to its needy, so it was definitely in a drop in price.

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And there's all these other issues. But it's also just like, what's the point?

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It's like buying, and I'm going to offend some people here,

02:24:17.740 --> 02:24:22.540
but it's like buying an old console that you just leave in the box.

02:24:23.500 --> 02:24:30.300
Oh, yeah. He is not into buying something just to keep it new in box so that you can flip it later.

02:24:30.300 --> 02:24:35.340
It was like some things are, you know, they're basically art.

02:24:35.340 --> 02:24:39.660
Like I could say that it makes more sense to me for like a Funko Pop thing to stay in the box.

02:24:40.460 --> 02:24:44.940
Because you're supposed to look at it anyways. But like a thing that was made to do stuff.

02:24:45.980 --> 02:24:50.940
Like in my mind, the car wants to go. Would you say this is just like a rich person's Funko Pop?

02:24:51.820 --> 02:24:54.940
I guess. I mean, uh- So depressing. Hold on.

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Luke's new at this, isn't he? Wafer says people that buy remax literally just

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hold them in a larger collection of cars and drive them very rarely.

02:25:05.500 --> 02:25:09.660
Well, hopefully they plan to hold them for either a lot longer or they plan to

02:25:10.220 --> 02:25:15.420
get out of them immediately because it seems like they are depreciating hard.

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Corey G said, no, it doesn't have a box. Yeah, this is a bring your own box scenario where you build your own garage for it.

02:25:21.980 --> 02:25:25.180
At least my fire truck had a box. Yeah, that's true.

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Kind of. It had a wall. Yeah. Well, look, okay, that's a box on a budget.

02:25:31.980 --> 02:25:35.900
That's what I call it. That worked out, man. We had one take at that.

02:25:35.900 --> 02:25:39.100
I saw the full plane excuse apart for that.

02:25:39.100 --> 02:25:43.340
That was wild. Good job. Yeah. Had one shot.

02:25:43.340 --> 02:25:47.900
It actually hit me in the ARM on the way down. If you look really closely, it like grazed me.

02:25:47.900 --> 02:25:51.900
Because I was trying to get out of the freaking way. I saw you kind of booking it.

02:25:51.900 --> 02:25:56.380
Yeah. Yeah. Like I was moving. It was coming. You kicked the supports, right?

02:25:56.380 --> 02:25:59.980
Yeah. The second I saw you kick it, I was like, oh. I just thought it'd be really cool.

02:25:59.980 --> 02:26:03.020
I assumed it was going to be like a rope or something that you were pulling so you could

02:26:03.020 --> 02:26:06.860
keep moving. But you had to kick it, which interrupts your form. Yeah, because it was windy.

02:26:06.860 --> 02:26:10.540
We couldn't get it to stand on its own. So we had to prop it up.

02:26:10.540 --> 02:26:14.140
I was pretty surprised. I saw that like in the actual video.

02:26:14.140 --> 02:26:19.100
Like I didn't, I wasn't out there. You know, I'm saying this for them, you know, but yeah, it was wild.

02:26:19.100 --> 02:26:23.100
The intro to WAN today, I'm excited to go watch it because I have no idea.

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Oh, dude, I was watching it on a dance monitor.

02:26:27.020 --> 02:26:30.940
When he, when we did the dry run. No, no, no, no. Our live version.

02:26:30.940 --> 02:26:36.380
Oh. Because like the, for you guys, if you tuned in after the beginning of the show,

02:26:36.380 --> 02:26:41.100
there's a video clip of like us getting ready that was pre-recorded.

02:26:41.100 --> 02:26:46.860
But then when the, the show cuts to live and we're not in the fire truck, we're upstairs.

02:26:46.860 --> 02:26:51.260
Yeah. And we both jump on a fire pole, slide down and like run into the truck.

02:26:51.260 --> 02:26:55.100
Yeah, we did it live. And that was all live. Yeah. I could fumble it slightly.

02:26:55.100 --> 02:26:58.140
Oh, did you? Yeah, unfortunately. I'm sorry guys. What'd you do? What part?

02:26:59.100 --> 02:27:02.460
Just the transition into the truck. Oh, I know. I saw it.

02:27:02.460 --> 02:27:05.580
It was fine. I feel really bad. I was watching the monitor when you did it.

02:27:05.580 --> 02:27:08.860
I thought it was fine. I noticed, yeah, there was some other video up or something. Is that right?

02:27:08.860 --> 02:27:12.380
Yeah, I don't know what happened. But yeah, it looped back into the video.

02:27:12.380 --> 02:27:15.420
Whatever. As long as people saw us coming down the pole. Oh yeah, that was all fine.

02:27:15.420 --> 02:27:19.900
Yeah. Just the transition of the truck. Sad. You were saying it's the fire pole permanent now?

02:27:20.460 --> 02:27:24.380
No. I'm assuming no liability problems. That's a big no. Yeah.

02:27:24.380 --> 02:27:27.660
My kids want to go on it. I will maybe allow my son to try it

02:27:27.660 --> 02:27:31.820
because he's pretty athletic. But there's no way the other ones are allowed to go on it.

02:27:31.820 --> 02:27:35.180
It's really far. You have to jump onto it. That was surprising.

02:27:35.740 --> 02:27:40.780
Why wasn't it closer? I don't know. If you look at the supports along the ceiling.

02:27:41.740 --> 02:27:45.020
It lines up with one of those. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. That was the safest place to do it.

02:27:45.020 --> 02:27:47.340
There was no world to tie it to. Got it.

02:27:48.700 --> 02:27:53.660
It's hilarious that as often as we've said, we're never going to have a fire pole.

02:27:53.660 --> 02:27:56.860
How many times? We have actually installed one? At least two now.

02:27:56.860 --> 02:27:58.940
Yeah. Hilarious.

02:28:01.180 --> 02:28:02.780
I don't even remember how that meme started.

02:28:05.420 --> 02:28:10.860
I know when it started, but I don't remember why. Oh, when we were moving into the office.

02:28:10.860 --> 02:28:15.020
Yeah, but what? You were just like, we should have a fire pole. And I was like, no, that's stupid.

02:28:16.060 --> 02:28:21.020
That's how it started. That sounds simple enough for it to be correct.

02:28:22.860 --> 02:28:26.620
All right. Dan. Yes. It's time for After Dark.

02:28:26.620 --> 02:28:30.220
All right. I have to come and change those lights over. Oh, uh, oh.

02:28:31.500 --> 02:28:34.620
You have to come down. Can we go to Dan Camp? Oh, yeah. There we go.

02:28:34.620 --> 02:28:37.900
Uh, you have to actually come down here. They're tight in tubes.

02:28:38.540 --> 02:28:41.180
Are you using a lap board? Oh, well, I was.

02:28:42.940 --> 02:28:48.700
Did that fall off the truck? No, it might plant. No, no, he's in the middle of like the flat part of the back.

02:28:48.700 --> 02:28:51.980
Yeah, I saw him put it off on the side. So I wasn't sure. Oh, geez.

02:28:51.980 --> 02:28:54.940
My goodness. Can you guys see the truck moving as he like walks around up there?

02:28:55.500 --> 02:28:59.980
I'm not sure if you're going to be able to pick it up. The audio of like the water bottle falling and stuff.

02:28:59.980 --> 02:29:03.900
This sounds like Foley. Oh, yeah. I'm going to fix my water bottle. People have been asking me to deal with this.

02:29:04.700 --> 02:29:07.260
What's going on? Oh.

02:29:10.140 --> 02:29:16.540
Don't die, Dan. There. Sorry. Man, the like suspension on my seat is so nice.

02:29:16.540 --> 02:29:19.500
Yeah. Oh, wait. Bounce. No, I got more bounce. I'm the driver.

02:29:21.420 --> 02:29:25.180
Yeah. Okay. So, Dan, where, sorry, where is he right now?

02:29:25.180 --> 02:29:28.620
Hold on a second. Are you behind us? Are you in the, oh, okay.

02:29:28.620 --> 02:29:30.940
You're in the ride along. There he is. Compartment.

02:29:35.340 --> 02:29:39.660
I don't know, man. Huh? We don't know what you're doing, sir.

02:29:39.660 --> 02:29:43.980
Yeah. He wants to make them magenta apparently.

02:29:43.980 --> 02:29:47.900
They're kind of, I mean, there's something. Purpley kind of deal going on.

02:29:48.780 --> 02:29:52.060
Okay. It's after dark enough. He says, whatever, I don't care.

02:29:52.780 --> 02:29:53.980
And he's leaving now.

02:29:59.420 --> 02:30:00.460
Go back to the, I'm okay.

02:30:02.940 --> 02:30:04.940
I got jumpscared by Dan coming to the window.

02:30:06.780 --> 02:30:07.580
All right. Here he goes.

02:30:11.980 --> 02:30:16.220
Old truck shakes again. Oh man. What even is my end show?

02:30:17.180 --> 02:30:18.540
Some days I'm really not sure.

02:30:20.220 --> 02:30:24.460
The day is one of those days. Just dudes doing stuff.

02:30:24.460 --> 02:30:27.500
Yeah. Just hanging out in their fire truck. Yeah.

02:30:28.060 --> 02:30:28.300
Yeah.

02:30:33.580 --> 02:30:37.100
Did you enjoy getting down the fire pole? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it was fun.

02:30:37.100 --> 02:30:40.780
So yeah. All right. We did it like, I think it was like four times or something,

02:30:40.780 --> 02:30:45.740
trying to shoot for the intro video. And then after we did it all those times, I was like,

02:30:45.740 --> 02:30:50.060
Hey, we should actually just do it live instead. I was surprised you guys were even going to do it.

02:30:50.060 --> 02:30:53.180
During the dry runs. Yeah. Why not? I don't know. It was fun. Yeah.

02:30:53.180 --> 02:30:56.460
Yeah. I would have kept doing it. We're both reasonably well coordinated.

02:30:56.460 --> 02:30:59.580
I was, there is a trip hazard right in front of the pole.

02:30:59.580 --> 02:31:03.340
A pretty rough one actually. It's like actually really, like a two-stage trip hazard.

02:31:03.340 --> 02:31:04.860
Yeah. Like right at the edge.

02:31:06.620 --> 02:31:07.500
You know, it's there.

02:31:09.740 --> 02:31:13.660
But realistically, like I just had Luke start with his foot

02:31:13.660 --> 02:31:18.620
on the second of the trip hazard. So he was just like, he just kind of leaned in and launched over.

02:31:18.620 --> 02:31:23.580
And then, you know, if I die, what am I going to do? See the company? Like, I mean, the, I mean, I shouldn't tell you this,

02:31:23.580 --> 02:31:27.500
maybe I should. I don't know, whatever. The ones we did for the recorded version,

02:31:28.140 --> 02:31:31.980
I definitely wasn't like pre-stepped. It was fine.

02:31:31.980 --> 02:31:35.580
All right. It was fine. My only concern today was that I was going to,

02:31:35.580 --> 02:31:38.300
I'm wearing the like prop fireman pants.

02:31:38.860 --> 02:31:42.380
Yeah. And they started to rip. And I was like, if I go again, they're gone.

02:31:42.380 --> 02:31:46.140
Oh yeah. The crotch is like. Exploded. Obliterated on those pants.

02:31:46.140 --> 02:31:50.460
Yeah. Love it. I can probably show the camera. You're ready for the, you're ready for the calendar shoot.

02:31:52.700 --> 02:31:57.580
Oh wait, are you guys doing another one? What do you mean another one? That we have, we haven't even done the calendar.

02:31:57.580 --> 02:32:01.020
Oh, I thought you did one already. No, we're going to do a 2026 calendar.

02:32:01.020 --> 02:32:04.620
So that gives us time to, I, you know, I've wanted to do this for like 10 years.

02:32:04.620 --> 02:32:07.820
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like a men of tech, like fireman calendar.

02:32:07.820 --> 02:32:12.220
So I, I, I'm serious. That's the April Fool's joke.

02:32:12.220 --> 02:32:14.700
Is that everything is a hundred percent serious.

02:32:15.340 --> 02:32:18.060
Crotch cam. I don't know, I'm wearing shorts. I could show people.

02:32:19.260 --> 02:32:23.660
Oh my God. All right, Dan. Do you want to give us some, there it is.

02:32:30.540 --> 02:32:32.300
That's for the internal calendar.

02:32:34.540 --> 02:32:38.940
It's just shorts. I'm wearing like four layers down there right now.

02:32:38.940 --> 02:32:41.420
Three, three layers. It's fine.

02:32:43.660 --> 02:32:47.660
All right, Dan. Do you want to hit us with some merge messages? I'm sorry, I didn't have a sensor ready.

02:32:48.700 --> 02:32:49.740
Hello, LTT.

02:32:53.260 --> 02:32:58.300
I was read as the fire truck. Hello, LTT. I was wondering if you put a pack of unopened

02:32:58.300 --> 02:33:01.500
Pokemon cards in the Luma Field CT scanner.

02:33:01.500 --> 02:33:04.940
Are you able to see the cards inside? Would be cool.

02:33:04.940 --> 02:33:09.820
I think we tested this. I don't believe so. I don't think there's enough resolution to make it out.

02:33:09.820 --> 02:33:14.700
However, I believe there is someone who used some kind of CT scanner

02:33:14.700 --> 02:33:17.820
and used some kind of machine vision,

02:33:17.820 --> 02:33:21.340
machine learning assistance to, yes,

02:33:21.900 --> 02:33:25.740
be able to tell what was inside a pack of Pokemon cards.

02:33:25.740 --> 02:33:29.500
I remember the news breaking and then there being

02:33:29.500 --> 02:33:35.580
some speculation that this would completely destroy the Pokemon card economy to which I said,

02:33:36.380 --> 02:33:40.300
good because it's gambling for children. This is actually terrible.

02:33:40.300 --> 02:33:43.580
And then nothing more came of it. It's kind of like the Panama Papers that way.

02:33:44.300 --> 02:33:50.780
Like it was huge news and then... Yeah, and like F.C. not killing himself and all those things.

02:33:51.900 --> 02:33:56.540
Yeah. Dude, I don't conspiracy theory much.

02:33:58.540 --> 02:34:00.060
I don't even know if that like is... But like...

02:34:02.060 --> 02:34:03.980
When faced with overwhelming facts.

02:34:05.420 --> 02:34:06.620
I'm supposed to believe that?

02:34:08.620 --> 02:34:10.220
I don't know. Dude, come on.

02:34:11.660 --> 02:34:19.340
Come on. If a journalist can get car bombed after the Panama Papers,

02:34:19.900 --> 02:34:25.820
Epstein can definitely get unalived for what he knew.

02:34:26.860 --> 02:34:29.820
The amount of like... I don't know.

02:34:31.340 --> 02:34:34.460
I don't remember all the details. How off the rails are we going today, Luke?

02:34:34.460 --> 02:34:37.260
I don't remember all the details. Is it after dark at the fire hall?

02:34:38.780 --> 02:34:42.940
We should have like turned these lights off and just left the red one. Yeah, a hot take emergency.

02:34:43.900 --> 02:34:48.460
But yeah, it's tough because like... I remember reading all the details of like,

02:34:48.460 --> 02:34:51.980
I don't know, some guard was supposed to be there and they weren't and some other thing was supposed to happen

02:34:51.980 --> 02:34:55.020
and it didn't and video cameras and surveillance wasn't working

02:34:55.020 --> 02:34:56.540
or something or other blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

02:35:00.300 --> 02:35:03.580
I don't know. You hear this stuff happening at big companies

02:35:04.140 --> 02:35:07.340
where like something fails and you're like, how did that possibly happen?

02:35:07.340 --> 02:35:13.900
And then something happens here and it's like, oh, like every procedure step was skipped for whatever reason.

02:35:14.620 --> 02:35:17.260
This just happens at companies, I guess. Okay.

02:35:18.620 --> 02:35:21.580
All right. It makes a lot of things more understandable

02:35:22.220 --> 02:35:26.300
when you like do administrative stuff at companies. It's just like, oh, people are just gonna people.

02:35:27.100 --> 02:35:30.140
Oh yeah. People are messy. Yeah. And that's...

02:35:30.140 --> 02:35:34.700
I don't mean that in an insulting way. I just mean it in a reality check.

02:35:34.700 --> 02:35:36.540
You can have great people and sometimes they'll just...

02:35:37.820 --> 02:35:42.140
Make a mistake. Be tired. Sometimes Troy Hunt will get...

02:35:42.140 --> 02:35:45.580
Yeah. Exactly. You know? Yeah. Exactly. Yeah.

02:35:45.580 --> 02:35:51.500
You know, I didn't really have time this time. I thought it would be okay. It's been okay every time for however long.

02:35:51.500 --> 02:35:55.820
So I thought I could skip it and then, you know, this was the one time that I wasn't able to skip it

02:35:55.820 --> 02:35:58.860
and something went wrong. Yeah. Whatever. Who knows? This happens.

02:36:02.780 --> 02:36:05.740
More? Actually, yeah. Jayden's here. I'm gonna show off...

02:36:06.780 --> 02:36:09.900
I don't know if you've even seen this or noticed it. All right. All right.

02:36:09.900 --> 02:36:13.340
Let's see. Let me go to my screen. Oh, do we only have the one stream deck?

02:36:13.900 --> 02:36:16.940
Yes. Sick. There we go.

02:36:16.940 --> 02:36:19.980
That's cool. No, not that. What? What do you mean?

02:36:19.980 --> 02:36:23.420
That is cool. Can you already know what that? We're talking about... I haven't seen that picture.

02:36:23.420 --> 02:36:26.860
This. Oh, what is that? And this.

02:36:26.860 --> 02:36:31.980
Oh, what? Oh, what? You can have a fire truck Floatplane or a Lambo...

02:36:31.980 --> 02:36:35.260
Or a Lambo Floatplane. Yeah. How long are we leaving that?

02:36:36.300 --> 02:36:38.780
I don't know. We can kind of leave it for as long as you want.

02:36:39.340 --> 02:36:42.780
Without revealing anything. Does this have anything to do with... It sure does.

02:36:42.780 --> 02:36:46.860
Okay, cool. Yep. That's super cool. Technology made for that worked for this.

02:36:46.860 --> 02:36:49.980
Wow, that's super cool. We were talking about how, you know,

02:36:49.980 --> 02:36:52.620
features that we make for the... I wasn't gonna say it. For the...

02:36:53.420 --> 02:36:57.500
Can do... I wasn't gonna say it. And then they both... I wasn't gonna say it.

02:36:57.500 --> 02:37:01.020
Yeah. Come on. You don't really think I was gonna say it.

02:37:01.020 --> 02:37:04.540
No. Okay. Oh, I didn't think so at all. That's cool. Yeah, there's a fire truck theme.

02:37:04.540 --> 02:37:07.980
And if you look into it, Jayden even got like, this is an actual picture of the Lambo.

02:37:09.020 --> 02:37:11.180
Called Lambo Time. I never actually looked at the alt text.

02:37:12.780 --> 02:37:18.060
That's an actual, like, little picture of the Lambo. And I don't remember this might be a picture of the fire truck

02:37:18.060 --> 02:37:21.340
or it's just a picture of a fire truck. That looks like a picture of the toy.

02:37:21.340 --> 02:37:23.580
That's awesome. Maybe it's the toy. That's awesome.

02:37:25.100 --> 02:37:29.820
Jayden just said forever. I mean, it could... It's actually gonna cost money to remove this.

02:37:31.180 --> 02:37:36.540
Oh, my goodness. We could park it in, like, user settings

02:37:36.540 --> 02:37:41.100
instead of having it up here all the time or whatever. But yeah, some Floatplane people noticed it pretty quick.

02:37:41.900 --> 02:37:45.900
And we wanted to at least leave it up at a minimum until this WAN Show.

02:37:47.580 --> 02:37:51.900
By the way, speaking of that picture, apparently... The fire truck has a frame from the unboxing.

02:37:51.900 --> 02:37:55.980
Okay. Apparently, that video is up in early access

02:37:55.980 --> 02:37:59.260
on Floatplane right now. Oh, yeah.

02:37:59.260 --> 02:38:02.380
Yeah. My house sucks compared to this.

02:38:02.380 --> 02:38:05.420
Oh, it has been, to be clear. Ultimate LAN gaming house tour.

02:38:05.980 --> 02:38:09.020
Let's go. So remember that ultimate... Oops.

02:38:09.020 --> 02:38:13.100
Remember that ultimate LAN house that went, like, super viral on Reddit?

02:38:13.900 --> 02:38:16.700
We went there and we shot a video tour of it.

02:38:17.580 --> 02:38:21.580
Man, they were super gracious letting us into their home

02:38:21.580 --> 02:38:28.860
to check out all the cool goodies. And they actually arranged to have a LAN the night of the shoot.

02:38:29.260 --> 02:38:32.860
So Luke and I played some Left 4 Dead with the crew,

02:38:32.860 --> 02:38:36.860
which was legitimately super fun. My son got to see it

02:38:36.860 --> 02:38:40.860
because we happened to be down in Texas already for an unrelated trip.

02:38:40.860 --> 02:38:43.020
We shot this quite a while ago, actually, now.

02:38:44.060 --> 02:38:48.220
But as you can imagine, the editing process on something like this, when it's, you know,

02:38:48.220 --> 02:38:52.940
someone's private domicile, involves a little bit of back and forth to coordinate,

02:38:52.940 --> 02:38:57.660
make sure everything's chill and everything's good. Totally makes sense. And to be clear, I'm not saying that that's a problem.

02:38:57.660 --> 02:39:02.220
They were amazing to work with. And I'm super excited for you guys to see this video.

02:39:03.580 --> 02:39:04.940
Freakin' awesome.

02:39:06.780 --> 02:39:09.740
What else? What else we got here, Mr. Dan?

02:39:10.380 --> 02:39:15.260
Sure. Hi, guys. With the tariffs going to effect, what are items or services in the tech space

02:39:15.260 --> 02:39:18.780
that you're pretty sure are going to get affected? Thanks. I mean, it will be fine.

02:39:19.820 --> 02:39:22.940
Because we're in Canada. Almost all of them.

02:39:22.940 --> 02:39:28.300
For Americans, practically everything. Yeah, especially because there's no, like,

02:39:28.300 --> 02:39:35.020
man, I've heard industry scuttle, but that's just like companies are like f***ing pissed.

02:39:36.460 --> 02:39:39.660
Because they went and they moved their production

02:39:39.660 --> 02:39:44.780
out of China, you know, last time around at the last rodeo.

02:39:45.660 --> 02:39:49.900
Did this happen to Nintendo? It's happened to a lot of companies.

02:39:49.900 --> 02:39:53.500
Where they moved stuff in order to, you know,

02:39:53.580 --> 02:39:56.060
respond to tariffs on China or whatever.

02:39:56.620 --> 02:40:00.540
And then now that country's getting tariffs. So they're literally just out, like,

02:40:01.340 --> 02:40:05.420
millions and millions and millions of dollars on, like, facilities that they built

02:40:06.300 --> 02:40:11.500
in order to appease, you know, this, like, China trade war thing.

02:40:11.500 --> 02:40:14.220
And then now it's like, oh, I don't know, it's trade war with everyone.

02:40:16.140 --> 02:40:18.620
Yeah, apparently Nintendo moved manufacturing to Vietnam.

02:40:19.500 --> 02:40:22.220
Gilmore D said that the musical instrument space is just...

02:40:23.980 --> 02:40:27.340
He said aft hard. Yeah. Yeah.

02:40:27.340 --> 02:40:30.860
Well, yeah, because... Makes sense. Like the, the, the, the...

02:40:31.580 --> 02:40:34.620
By design, the tariffs are so high

02:40:35.580 --> 02:40:39.260
that you can't just absorb them and keep doing what you're doing.

02:40:39.820 --> 02:40:44.940
That's the whole point. And, like, it's gonna be worse. Some people are saying, like, oh, there's a 63% tariff.

02:40:44.940 --> 02:40:50.620
Therefore, my thing will cost 63% more. It's like, no, dude, it's gonna cost way more than that.

02:40:50.620 --> 02:40:54.220
Because companies need to protect their margin in order to be able to pay people.

02:40:54.220 --> 02:40:57.740
Otherwise, their stock will be destroyed. Yeah. That's the bigger one.

02:40:57.740 --> 02:41:00.940
Because they could make the same... That's the biggest one. They could make the same gross dollars,

02:41:00.940 --> 02:41:04.460
gross margin dollars, and they could still pay everyone. But if you're showing brutal losses...

02:41:05.420 --> 02:41:09.980
Or if you're showing that your profit's slipping, your stock will get obliterated.

02:41:09.980 --> 02:41:13.340
Who knows these days? I mean, that's fair, that's fair.

02:41:13.340 --> 02:41:16.380
Nothing seems to be based off anything logical anymore.

02:41:16.380 --> 02:41:21.660
Everything is meme stocks. Yeah. But that, that is traditionally a very bad thing.

02:41:22.620 --> 02:41:26.780
So, yeah, it's gonna be way worse than whatever percentage the tariff on the country is.

02:41:29.100 --> 02:41:32.300
So, buckle up.

02:41:33.660 --> 02:41:38.300
Wow. Yeah, T. Lewis says, yeah, 90% of guitars are made in China.

02:41:38.300 --> 02:41:41.020
The only ones that aren't are super expensive high-end models.

02:41:42.300 --> 02:41:45.820
That's traditionally how it's been. You can get the USA-made ones for, like, triple the price.

02:41:45.820 --> 02:41:53.260
And it's like, yeah, I think that... I don't, I think the only realistic outcome,

02:41:53.260 --> 02:41:58.860
if this continues the way that it's going, and it isn't just, you know, a negotiating tactic

02:41:58.860 --> 02:42:04.620
and we'll go away immediately, the only realistic outcome is people are going to have to

02:42:05.740 --> 02:42:10.940
embrace the buy once and use a thing for ever mentality.

02:42:10.940 --> 02:42:14.860
Maybe this will be good for repairability? Has absolutely died.

02:42:14.860 --> 02:42:19.500
Right to repair? In North America. Yeah. Like, that's a cool side effect.

02:42:19.500 --> 02:42:25.740
Be ready to spend, you know, $500 on a dining room chair

02:42:26.540 --> 02:42:30.140
and sit on that chair for the rest of your adult life

02:42:30.140 --> 02:42:34.940
and never replace it. And you know what, you might buy, you know,

02:42:34.940 --> 02:42:38.940
I bought Canadian-made chairs when I bought our dining room set.

02:42:38.940 --> 02:42:43.820
And they look today other than the leatherette backing,

02:42:43.820 --> 02:42:49.260
so we had to get them reupholstered, but... But other than that, yeah. But they look today and sit today

02:42:49.260 --> 02:42:51.820
like they did when we bought them over 15 years ago.

02:42:52.780 --> 02:42:54.780
So you might get higher quality stuff,

02:42:56.140 --> 02:43:00.140
but you're not going to be like keeping up with fashion

02:43:00.140 --> 02:43:02.860
when it comes to clothes and home decor.

02:43:03.420 --> 02:43:09.980
You'll be buying things that you need and using them until you die and don't need them anymore.

02:43:11.340 --> 02:43:14.780
Sopcannon said parts will be more expensive. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely.

02:43:14.780 --> 02:43:17.260
But it'll be... But they'll be less expensive than buying a whole new one.

02:43:17.820 --> 02:43:20.540
Yeah, and that's a pretty big deal.

02:43:29.980 --> 02:43:34.060
Dan, you're up. Sure. Will you guys add new bonus bin items?

02:43:35.100 --> 02:43:39.980
There's a sticker pack right now. It ebbs and flows. Yeah, sometimes there's stuff,

02:43:39.980 --> 02:43:42.140
sometimes there isn't as much stuff in the bonus bin,

02:43:43.100 --> 02:43:48.460
especially you'll see us be more generous with the bonus bin

02:43:48.460 --> 02:43:51.580
when margins are good and volumes are high.

02:43:51.580 --> 02:43:56.060
We're doing a big sale promo and there's other stuff that we know we can make money on.

02:43:56.060 --> 02:44:01.420
Do you get tariffed on bonus bin items? I have no idea.

02:44:02.540 --> 02:44:08.380
So wait, hold on. No, because our cost will not be impacted.

02:44:08.460 --> 02:44:10.300
If we sell it for $0, then...

02:44:12.700 --> 02:44:15.980
Wait, yeah, would... No, the tariff will be on the cost of the item.

02:44:15.980 --> 02:44:19.180
Because you would have to declare the actual value of the item.

02:44:19.180 --> 02:44:24.620
Yeah, no. Yeah, I think you could get tariffed on... Otherwise you'd just ship everything for $0 and then...

02:44:24.620 --> 02:44:30.140
Yeah, no, you're right. Yep. Okay, so yes, if you declare the value of your shipments properly,

02:44:30.140 --> 02:44:33.980
it would be based on the original value, not based on the build price.

02:44:33.980 --> 02:44:35.740
So yeah, no, you could easily get tariffed on it.

02:44:37.340 --> 02:44:41.420
Yikes. Anyway, so yeah, now is not a great time for us to be

02:44:41.420 --> 02:44:44.780
taking big hits to our margin on really generous bonus items.

02:44:45.980 --> 02:44:49.660
Like, the impacts are not always obvious, but they're there.

02:44:54.060 --> 02:45:00.060
Hey, Slick, Napoleon, and now our overlord. I have a brown belt test tomorrow in Shaolin Kempo.

02:45:00.060 --> 02:45:03.340
It's my first out-of-dojo test and I'm kind of worried about it.

02:45:03.340 --> 02:45:05.740
Any tips for martial arts and dealing with pressure?

02:45:06.700 --> 02:45:10.460
Dude, I mean, practice lots, right?

02:45:11.020 --> 02:45:16.220
And when you practice, are you practicing in front of people? Even practicing in front of one person

02:45:16.220 --> 02:45:21.660
will make a huge difference to your nerves. Like, if you're just used to being by yourself all the time

02:45:21.660 --> 02:45:24.380
and nobody like watching you, you know,

02:45:25.020 --> 02:45:29.020
that'll make a huge difference. Whereas if you like, you know, get a...

02:45:29.020 --> 02:45:32.700
It's tomorrow? Oh, Lordy. Yeah, I was gonna say, there's not a lot we can say in one day.

02:45:32.940 --> 02:45:35.980
It's a little late to, you know, have some people over

02:45:35.980 --> 02:45:40.140
and, you know, have dinner together and be like, okay, I want you guys to watch my routine.

02:45:40.780 --> 02:45:43.980
You know, because that would help with the nerves. Be the weird guy. Go to the park.

02:45:45.180 --> 02:45:47.740
Just do it there. That's good. Do that. Do that now.

02:45:48.380 --> 02:45:52.060
Go do your whole routine at the park with people watching.

02:45:52.060 --> 02:45:58.060
And that's going to be so awkward that I guarantee you during your test tomorrow, you're good to go.

02:45:58.060 --> 02:46:01.580
Might even feel less awkward. Yeah. You got this.

02:46:01.580 --> 02:46:03.900
You'll be fine. That's good advice. I like it.

02:46:04.620 --> 02:46:08.860
While you're at it, play some Pokemon Go, walk around. Yeah. Actually, no.

02:46:09.500 --> 02:46:13.500
Oh, yeah. It's literally tomorrow. So just focus.

02:46:14.460 --> 02:46:16.220
Get rested. You'll be fine.

02:46:18.540 --> 02:46:22.060
I love the new set. Hope it stays for the next few wanchos.

02:46:22.060 --> 02:46:25.340
Question, how did Yvonne react to the firetruck idea

02:46:25.340 --> 02:46:27.980
and who came up with it? Amazing April Fool's video.

02:46:28.540 --> 02:46:33.740
Um, Yvonne is shockingly chill these days.

02:46:34.380 --> 02:46:35.580
She's been through a lot.

02:46:37.420 --> 02:46:41.020
I mean, remember when I bought GameStop stock on Wancho?

02:46:41.020 --> 02:46:43.580
Like, I don't know, man, she...

02:46:45.980 --> 02:46:49.260
We play the characters, I think, a little bit,

02:46:50.540 --> 02:46:57.820
even internally of like Linus, the firecracker, you know?

02:46:58.380 --> 02:47:02.620
The guy with the... Not in like a short, short temper kind of way.

02:47:02.620 --> 02:47:07.020
Like the guy with the... Who's unpredictable and he'll do things in its wild

02:47:07.020 --> 02:47:14.220
and you know, dragon energy and all that, you know? And Yvonne, the, you know, the reasonable, measured person.

02:47:14.220 --> 02:47:17.900
And that is true. That is very true to an extent.

02:47:17.900 --> 02:47:21.020
But you got to remember, you know, we've been together for 20 years, right?

02:47:21.020 --> 02:47:27.740
Like, we've been shaping each other and molding into each other.

02:47:27.980 --> 02:47:32.140
For longer than we have not been together, you know?

02:47:32.140 --> 02:47:37.100
And so there's nothing that we can really do that's that surprising.

02:47:37.100 --> 02:47:42.540
And we push each other to do things that are outside of our comfort zones.

02:47:42.540 --> 02:47:50.060
And being fiscally irresponsible, but in a way that is planned and measured,

02:47:51.420 --> 02:47:56.860
is kind of our jam. That's where we've landed. You know, the appearance of fiscal irresponsibility,

02:47:56.860 --> 02:47:59.580
but actually we're pretty careful, we're pretty prudent.

02:48:00.540 --> 02:48:05.100
Like the fire truck was a calculated risk.

02:48:05.660 --> 02:48:11.020
You know, we spent 35,000, 30,000, some tens of thousands of dollars on it.

02:48:12.060 --> 02:48:18.140
But we came up with a plan. We went to the team and we said, okay, what can we do for exclusive merch?

02:48:19.020 --> 02:48:23.500
You know, who can we put on this video to make sure that it is sensational

02:48:23.500 --> 02:48:27.260
and the audience flipping loves it and gets excited about it

02:48:27.260 --> 02:48:31.100
and enjoys the crap out of it and wants to support us to make this kind of content.

02:48:31.820 --> 02:48:35.500
Okay, team, let's get together. Let's make something truly outstanding.

02:48:35.500 --> 02:48:39.900
Let's, you know, promote the merch with the live stream. Let's have some fun.

02:48:39.900 --> 02:48:44.220
You know, let's do some cool stuff. And people are probably going to respond.

02:48:44.220 --> 02:48:48.460
They're going to pick up some thirst extinguishers. They're going to subscribe to LTT.

02:48:48.460 --> 02:48:52.780
They're going to watch the video. They're going to pick up some cool firewall department t-shirts.

02:48:53.500 --> 02:48:57.900
Let's make sure that this investment, let's make sure that this is an investment,

02:48:57.900 --> 02:49:03.180
not just burning money in a fire and spoiler alert, we made it back.

02:49:05.180 --> 02:49:09.500
Believe it or not, we are responsible adults, running a responsible adult company,

02:49:09.500 --> 02:49:13.500
making sure that the people who work on all of these projects get paid and we made it back.

02:49:14.460 --> 02:49:18.220
We sold thousands of water bottles. The water bottles are sick.

02:49:18.220 --> 02:49:24.860
Yeah. I wish there was more shirts. We sold out of the shirts. The purchase of the fire truck kind of like over-performed almost.

02:49:24.860 --> 02:49:28.140
Yeah. Because we sold the shirts too fast. But that's the thing is you could look at it and go,

02:49:28.140 --> 02:49:31.340
oh, well, it would have been more responsible to rent the fire truck.

02:49:31.340 --> 02:49:38.140
And it's like, yeah, but that's where the wild, wacky side of it that I bring to the table comes in.

02:49:38.140 --> 02:49:45.180
It's like, if we were always like, oh, yeah, we did a wild thing, but oh, actually, we didn't.

02:49:45.180 --> 02:49:49.980
We did like the boring, completely responsible version. I don't think you guys would engage with that as much.

02:49:49.980 --> 02:49:54.140
I think you love the shenanigans. I love the shenanigans. I think you love the shenanigans.

02:49:54.140 --> 02:49:59.020
Absolutely, dude. It's way cooler that we actually bought a fire truck.

02:49:59.900 --> 02:50:03.260
Minus one thing I will not disclose at this time. The highlight of my week was

02:50:05.100 --> 02:50:10.540
introing the show by jumping down a fire pole. Yeah. Like that was so sick.

02:50:10.540 --> 02:50:14.060
The moment when Dan is like counting down. Yeah.

02:50:14.060 --> 02:50:17.980
And my foot's on the thing and I look back at Linus and Linus is smiling and I'm just like,

02:50:17.980 --> 02:50:21.500
this is sick. Yeah. This is like, this is just really cool.

02:50:22.220 --> 02:50:25.740
I don't know like what else to even say in that moment. It's just awesome.

02:50:25.740 --> 02:50:29.260
I mean, it's rule number 10 in the how to make great videos, right?

02:50:29.820 --> 02:50:36.620
Have fun. Yeah. If you are not having fun, everyone's going to pick it up.

02:50:36.620 --> 02:50:43.340
And you know what? It is way more fun for me to sit here in the real actual fire truck,

02:50:44.300 --> 02:50:49.580
having come from unboxing a weird random toy because my coworker needed help moving it on

02:50:49.580 --> 02:50:55.180
the website we both worked for to this whole thing where you guys are watching us and we

02:50:55.180 --> 02:51:00.780
have this incredible team and we can just like buy a fire truck because we feel like it.

02:51:01.340 --> 02:51:03.900
Like how cool is that? That's fun.

02:51:05.420 --> 02:51:11.820
The only thing I feel like missed from the video was I think you should have hit me with the hose.

02:51:12.780 --> 02:51:16.140
I hit Dennis. You hit Dennis? I shot his car.

02:51:16.140 --> 02:51:21.660
Oh, yeah. I would have blasted him more, but he actually had his passenger side window unrolled and he

02:51:21.660 --> 02:51:24.780
didn't know. He was like, why didn't you spray me more?

02:51:24.780 --> 02:51:26.460
I was like, dude, your Windows open.

02:51:27.980 --> 02:51:30.140
Like, aren't you happy that I noticed?

02:51:32.460 --> 02:51:38.220
Yeah, that's funny. That moment when I'm the adult on set, when we're playing with our fire truck.

02:51:42.700 --> 02:51:46.220
You don't want to show your highlight of the week? It's because it's not my news.

02:51:47.100 --> 02:51:50.140
It's someone else's news. Someone guessed that it's an engagement.

02:51:50.140 --> 02:51:52.620
No, it's not an engagement. It's just straight up not my news.

02:51:53.580 --> 02:52:00.380
And you'll know soon enough and it'll be great and you'll be super jazzed and we will be jazzed

02:52:00.380 --> 02:52:06.700
to talk about it, but it is someone else's news and it is up to them how they want to break it.

02:52:07.660 --> 02:52:10.220
We are just happy to be helping make it a reality.

02:52:11.180 --> 02:52:19.020
All right. What else we got? Hello, LLD. My house has in-floor radiant heating and we want to control it centrally and remotely.

02:52:19.020 --> 02:52:23.020
Linus, I was wondering if you were pleased with the solution you showed.

02:52:23.020 --> 02:52:32.620
Actually, it's pretty okay. Home assistant with those ecobies wired into those OG two-wire things with the bypass mode thing

02:52:33.420 --> 02:52:39.660
actually works pretty solid. All the Wi-Fi issues I was having with those ecobee thermostats went away.

02:52:39.660 --> 02:52:44.940
Once we turned off the 2.4 gigahertz radios that for whatever reason defaulted to all-be-on

02:52:44.940 --> 02:52:48.060
and whatever, I'm not going to blame anyone.

02:52:48.060 --> 02:52:53.340
We turned off all the 2.4 gigahertz radios that we're talking over each other and it's much better now.

02:52:54.220 --> 02:53:01.100
And basically, as long as you're willing to put in the time to kind of build logic around it,

02:53:01.660 --> 02:53:05.660
there can be a little bit of savings compared to what most people tell you about in-floor

02:53:05.660 --> 02:53:08.700
radiant heating, which is that you should just run it at a constant temperature all the time.

02:53:08.700 --> 02:53:13.020
That doesn't work for me because I like my house a little bit warmer when I'm awake

02:53:13.020 --> 02:53:19.660
than I like it when I'm sleeping. And that's especially challenging to balance when your sleeping is upstairs

02:53:19.660 --> 02:53:23.020
and in-floor radiant heating tends to just rise up.

02:53:23.020 --> 02:53:26.780
So you can't just have it warm in the living spaces downstairs and cool in the bedrooms.

02:53:26.780 --> 02:53:31.820
You can do that with forced air, but you can't really do it very well with in-floor.

02:53:33.100 --> 02:53:37.020
Overall, I'm pretty happy with it, but you've got to be ready to do some work fine-tuning it.

02:53:37.020 --> 02:53:45.420
And every fall and spring, I have to manually turn off the in-floor, switch over to radiant,

02:53:45.420 --> 02:53:52.860
and then turn off the radiant and switch over to forced air in order to keep things balanced,

02:53:52.860 --> 02:53:56.380
because if they're both active at the same time, they fight each other and it's a nightmare.

02:54:01.500 --> 02:54:05.180
Oh, there we go. Hey, y'all. I have nowhere else to ask this.

02:54:05.180 --> 02:54:09.420
So what's the title theme of Scrapyard Wars in season three and up?

02:54:09.980 --> 02:54:13.740
And why wasn't it in the newest season? Also, more women's clothing when?

02:54:14.300 --> 02:54:17.900
I wasn't sure what this meant. I figured you guys might be able to pick this apart. Oh, the music.

02:54:19.180 --> 02:54:22.540
The title theme. It's prop.

02:54:22.540 --> 02:54:24.460
I would think it would be under it, no?

02:54:27.420 --> 02:54:31.580
Because I know we use endemic sound, is that it? So Scrapyard Wars three and up.

02:54:32.780 --> 02:54:35.980
Dude, that's old. Well, they said end up.

02:54:36.540 --> 02:54:40.860
Yeah, I just mean like, well, we would have started using that maybe before we were using endemic.

02:54:41.820 --> 02:54:45.180
Oh, yeah. No, we don't. Dude, I have no idea.

02:54:45.900 --> 02:54:49.260
I'm so sorry. You might have to like shazam it or something.

02:54:50.540 --> 02:54:54.220
Oh, epidemic sound? I don't know, something. I don't even know. Epidemic sound, yeah.

02:54:54.220 --> 02:54:59.820
I don't even know what service we use for it. My deepest, most sincere apologies as for why we didn't use it.

02:54:59.820 --> 02:55:05.340
Probably because we forgot. In the description, it links to approaching Nirvana.

02:55:06.140 --> 02:55:10.700
No, that's just an agreement that we had with them, that we included them in every

02:55:10.700 --> 02:55:16.380
video description as long as we were using their song for our intros or something.

02:55:16.380 --> 02:55:25.020
Got it. Yeah. So we didn't pay for either that or Supernova from Laszlo because they were like,

02:55:25.020 --> 02:55:31.820
oh, no, we're just stoked. You guys are using it. As long as you credit us, then we consider that to be more than worth it.

02:55:31.820 --> 02:55:40.140
Yeah, that was pretty sweet. Yeah. Hey, Dan, Linus, and Luke, do you have any updates on the lab's lanyard as I got one in

02:55:40.140 --> 02:55:43.900
my last order and went looking at the page to think about getting a second?

02:55:44.780 --> 02:55:48.060
No, I have no updates to share at this time.

02:55:51.260 --> 02:55:56.700
I think Nick is still trying to figure out what exactly happened with the process there

02:55:57.340 --> 02:56:03.660
and other than, hey guys, if you have a problem with it, even though it didn't have the box

02:56:03.660 --> 02:56:09.100
stitch like it was supposed to, oh, I do know that the material is that way because we printed

02:56:09.100 --> 02:56:13.580
on it and we couldn't use that tougher material and print on it with the lab's logo and everything.

02:56:13.580 --> 02:56:17.340
As for the box stitch, basically, we're going to have to do a virtual box stitch for you.

02:56:17.340 --> 02:56:20.860
If it breaks, you let us know and we'll get you taken care of. Trust me, bro.

02:56:22.540 --> 02:56:25.900
And we're going to make sure that doesn't happen again. There, let's go with that for the update.

02:56:26.860 --> 02:56:30.300
Hey, LMGFoolies, this is one we already did earlier.

02:56:30.300 --> 02:56:37.020
Love the firetruck videos. Is there an actual endgame as to what will happen to the truck or was the purchase just for the

02:56:37.020 --> 02:56:43.740
memes? There's no clear endgame, but I figure it can't be that hard to find someone who needs a firetruck.

02:56:43.740 --> 02:56:47.900
It wouldn't be a fire department because this is too old. It's out of service.

02:56:48.780 --> 02:56:53.900
But some private organization that needs to have on-site firefighting capabilities

02:56:53.900 --> 02:56:58.300
could be interested in it. I mean, yeah, it works. That's exactly what it was doing.

02:56:58.300 --> 02:56:59.820
That's the duty it was pulling before.

02:57:01.660 --> 02:57:05.100
And we'll make sure that we take care of it while we have it.

02:57:05.100 --> 02:57:12.460
We'll get it ready for its next owner. So I'd love to resell it if we could find a worthy cause that needs something like that.

02:57:12.460 --> 02:57:19.500
That isn't just some commercial entity or whatever. Then we would consider doing an extraordinary price on it or even donating it.

02:57:20.860 --> 02:57:23.900
But that's not yet. That's not yet. That is not this day.

02:57:23.900 --> 02:57:27.900
Let's have fun with it for a while. Yeah, for now, we're going to pump water through some water blocks.

02:57:27.900 --> 02:57:30.780
See if we can blow them up, you know? Let's go.

02:57:34.380 --> 02:57:38.540
See what else we've got here. Hey, LDL.

02:57:38.540 --> 02:57:41.580
Luke or Dan, do you have any stories from when you did concrete?

02:57:42.860 --> 02:57:45.420
Shout out to Tatiana from CW for the amazing merch.

02:57:46.940 --> 02:57:51.420
The concrete-cooled PC. He's a Luke or Dan, though.

02:57:51.420 --> 02:57:58.780
Oh, they probably don't know that you guys weren't involved in that. So the April Fool's concrete-cooled PC, my favorite part of it,

02:57:58.780 --> 02:58:04.140
was us realizing on the day of the shoot what a catastrophe we had on our hands

02:58:04.140 --> 02:58:07.820
when we didn't have any way of making the plan.

02:58:10.060 --> 02:58:14.620
The plan from the team was to just put paint and water.

02:58:14.620 --> 02:58:20.300
And I was like, oh my God, that's not going to work. So I had them go get milk and we saved it.

02:58:20.300 --> 02:58:24.060
We managed to just put paint and dye or something in milk

02:58:24.620 --> 02:58:33.100
to turn it the color of concrete. And to do so convincingly enough that some people legitimately believed it.

02:58:33.100 --> 02:58:38.860
Quite a few. Nobody was dumb enough to try it on their own and be mad about it or whatever.

02:58:38.860 --> 02:58:44.380
But some people legitimately were trying to come up with theories about how,

02:58:44.380 --> 02:58:49.340
or trying to debunk it. They were like, with the exothermic properties of concrete curing,

02:58:49.340 --> 02:58:53.340
there's no way, blah, blah. Like taking it seriously one way or another.

02:58:53.340 --> 02:58:58.460
Yeah. And that's my other favorite story of the concrete-cooled PC, April Fool's,

02:58:58.460 --> 02:59:03.980
is arguing with the writing team who was telling me that it's not even funny

02:59:03.980 --> 02:59:09.260
because nobody would be like f***ing stupid enough to believe it.

02:59:10.460 --> 02:59:13.740
Oh yeah, that would probably work. Nobody could be stupid enough to believe it.

02:59:13.740 --> 02:59:16.940
It's not even an April Fool. It's basically just a dumb skit.

02:59:17.660 --> 02:59:22.380
And I was like, no, no, no.

02:59:22.380 --> 02:59:26.380
I've been doing this a long time. I've been doing this a long time. This ain't my first rodeo.

02:59:27.420 --> 02:59:30.460
Trust me, I can sell it.

02:59:30.460 --> 02:59:36.940
And so some other members of the team ate humble pie when I sold it,

02:59:37.740 --> 02:59:41.100
managed to convince people that we had cooled the PC with concrete,

02:59:41.100 --> 02:59:45.420
or that we were trying to earnestly convince anyone that we had done it.

02:59:45.420 --> 02:59:48.700
We got people to take it seriously, which I thought was pretty funny.

02:59:49.980 --> 02:59:55.580
Hello, Linus, Luke and Dan. Linus, having owned both a FEV Volt and an EV Taycan,

02:59:55.580 --> 02:59:59.180
what do you think is right for the average person in 2025?

02:59:59.180 --> 03:00:03.580
Should all ICE vehicles be hybrid FEVs by this point?

03:00:03.580 --> 03:00:06.620
Plug and Hybrid Electric Vehicle is a FEV. Thank you very much, Dan.

03:00:08.300 --> 03:00:11.500
I think Plug and Hybrid is outstanding.

03:00:11.500 --> 03:00:15.020
My review of the Volt based on my time with it,

03:00:15.420 --> 03:00:19.900
I said what I meant and I meant what I said.

03:00:19.900 --> 03:00:23.500
I think the Volt was a misunderstood car.

03:00:23.500 --> 03:00:28.380
I think that it was outstanding, an incredible step forward,

03:00:28.380 --> 03:00:35.340
a happy medium between full electric operation, hybrid operation and ICE operation.

03:00:35.340 --> 03:00:42.300
You literally could operate it in any one of those three modes. So it was either an EV for your daily commute to and from work,

03:00:42.300 --> 03:00:46.700
or it magically turned into an incredibly efficient ICE vehicle

03:00:46.700 --> 03:00:49.980
if you needed to go a long distance. I absolutely love that car.

03:00:51.500 --> 03:00:55.500
I feel, again, speaking of humble pie, I feel very vindicated

03:00:55.500 --> 03:00:59.340
because I talked up the Volt a lot back in the day

03:00:59.340 --> 03:01:04.780
and got crapped on by both the EV crowd and the ICE crowd.

03:01:04.780 --> 03:01:09.020
And now Plug and Hybrids are fricking everywhere.

03:01:09.340 --> 03:01:12.940
Every major manufacturer, even hypercars,

03:01:12.940 --> 03:01:16.460
they're looking at Plug and Hybrid in order to find a balance between

03:01:17.100 --> 03:01:20.460
economy, performance, complexity, everything.

03:01:21.020 --> 03:01:22.700
Dude, they're outstanding.

03:01:24.700 --> 03:01:30.140
What was the back order time on the RAV4 Prime when Toyota launched it,

03:01:30.140 --> 03:01:37.100
like four years or something like that? Literally, companies cannot make enough of these Plug and Hybrid electric vehicles.

03:01:37.100 --> 03:01:40.140
And I got absolutely dunked on for buying one.

03:01:41.580 --> 03:01:50.860
I think Plug and Hybrid is the play. The only reason that I am full EV is, and there's a couple reasons,

03:01:50.860 --> 03:01:55.500
but one of the biggest ones that really drove me to stop dailying the Volt,

03:01:55.500 --> 03:02:00.060
which, by the way, we kept. We sold it to the company and we still use it to run errands and stuff

03:02:00.060 --> 03:02:03.100
because it's a super efficient car.

03:02:03.100 --> 03:02:06.700
The back seats fold down. It has a huge trunk capacity for what it did.

03:02:06.700 --> 03:02:12.700
Anyway, sorry, sorry, I love the Volt. The only reason that I got rid of it, or a big driving force,

03:02:12.700 --> 03:02:16.540
aside from just thinking the Taycan is super cool, is that I hate going to the gas station.

03:02:17.340 --> 03:02:21.020
I don't plan my time very well.

03:02:21.900 --> 03:02:25.740
I am almost invariably late for everything. You don't plan your time.

03:02:25.740 --> 03:02:32.300
And when I have to go to the gas station on my way somewhere, I am then five to 10 minutes even later than I already would have been.

03:02:32.300 --> 03:02:33.900
Yeah. So it doesn't work for me.

03:02:35.980 --> 03:02:39.580
So I like having an EV that I charge every night in my garage

03:02:39.580 --> 03:02:49.180
and I never have to think about fuel. It's just like, I was reading this article about decision overload or whatever.

03:02:49.180 --> 03:02:55.260
I make too many decisions. I have too many little things to have to think about whether my car is fueled.

03:02:56.220 --> 03:02:59.580
And I can. I can do it, obviously.

03:02:59.580 --> 03:03:02.300
Did a long time. Or I just Taycanot.

03:03:03.740 --> 03:03:06.940
Whoa. And the bell. It's over here. The bell. Okay.

03:03:06.940 --> 03:03:11.580
Yeah. Or I could just not bother. And I could just have a car that I plug in in my garage

03:03:11.580 --> 03:03:16.700
and I just don't think about it. And realistically, I worked pretty hard.

03:03:16.700 --> 03:03:21.500
I was also lucky, but I worked pretty hard. And I decided I was going to treat myself to a really,

03:03:21.500 --> 03:03:23.340
really stupid present and I bought a Taycan.

03:03:27.100 --> 03:03:30.540
My midlife crisis mobile. What do you want? That's what I call it. Do you like it?

03:03:30.540 --> 03:03:33.660
Yep. But I think plug-in hybrid electric vehicles are sick.

03:03:35.500 --> 03:03:43.660
Yeah. I think they're super cool. Volvo has their, I think XC is the electrified line.

03:03:43.660 --> 03:03:48.060
So whatever the other one is, but there's whatever 90.

03:03:48.060 --> 03:03:51.900
It looks pretty cool. Hello, LLD.

03:03:51.900 --> 03:03:56.140
I'm going to Japan at the end of the month. And I know Linus was there a year or so ago.

03:03:56.140 --> 03:03:58.940
What cool tech things that amaze you during that trip.

03:03:59.500 --> 03:04:02.700
Plus when LTT branded cables. I don't know.

03:04:02.700 --> 03:04:06.860
Japan has like, other than like weird exclusives, like, oh my,

03:04:06.860 --> 03:04:10.540
oh my gosh, we unboxed a Hello Kitty smartwatch,

03:04:10.540 --> 03:04:13.100
like officially licensed Hello Kitty smartwatch for adults.

03:04:13.900 --> 03:04:18.700
They were very clear versus for adults.

03:04:20.460 --> 03:04:25.020
On ShortCircuit, that's coming soon. So other than like exclusive stuff like that,

03:04:25.740 --> 03:04:28.860
Japan's technology is basically like what we have here now.

03:04:28.860 --> 03:04:32.860
It's not like it used to be where they got the Super Nintendo

03:04:32.860 --> 03:04:36.220
like a year before, months prior, whatever.

03:04:36.220 --> 03:04:38.620
If anything, a lot of their stuff is quote unquote behind.

03:04:40.620 --> 03:04:44.860
In some ways that I like actually, like they, I don't know,

03:04:44.860 --> 03:04:47.900
public terminals have like big chunky buttons

03:04:47.900 --> 03:04:52.540
instead of garbage, terrible touch screens, which is great.

03:04:53.340 --> 03:04:57.740
But it's like older tech, technically.

03:04:57.740 --> 03:05:04.380
I've heard that they're like banking systems and stuff like that are all, you'll kind of old.

03:05:04.380 --> 03:05:07.660
But again, in some ways, like I don't necessarily think that every change is actually good.

03:05:07.660 --> 03:05:12.780
So you are. As for when LTT branded cables, soon TM.

03:05:14.060 --> 03:05:17.820
Man, the samples, I was going to say they look good, but they more than look good.

03:05:19.020 --> 03:05:22.220
I've been dailying them. I'm super, super happy with them.

03:05:22.220 --> 03:05:28.780
They're going to be expensive. Tariffs aren't going to help, but dude, they're so nice.

03:05:28.780 --> 03:05:32.460
It's like if there was a cable that I could buy

03:05:32.460 --> 03:05:36.060
and just be confident that every time I plug it in,

03:05:36.060 --> 03:05:40.540
it's going to do exactly what it says on the side of it. It's the LTT cables.

03:05:40.540 --> 03:05:44.140
The high speed stuff is all coax, shielded.

03:05:45.180 --> 03:05:51.020
It's beautiful. Actually ran into an issue where I used a USB-C to USB-C

03:05:51.020 --> 03:05:55.740
and it didn't do what it needed to, like yesterday.

03:05:56.700 --> 03:06:01.180
Very excited. It happens all the time. So annoying. And last one I've got for you today.

03:06:01.180 --> 03:06:06.780
Hey, Lines and Luke, I recently saw a video about using both AMD and NVIDIA GPUs in one setup

03:06:06.780 --> 03:06:10.620
using a lossless scaling's new dual GPU frame generation method.

03:06:10.620 --> 03:06:12.300
Wondering if you have any thoughts. I do.

03:06:13.820 --> 03:06:18.940
I'm going to try it. We're going to do a video on it. Just a matter of when we can get it on the schedule,

03:06:18.940 --> 03:06:21.980
but yeah, I definitely want to explore it. Bring the old meme back, dude.

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Linus did that in 2013. Oh, that's true. I did. I did SLI and Crossfire.

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In the same system. In the same system.

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Hell, yeah. It worked, by the way. Yep.

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Linus, SLI, Crossfire.

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Check this out. Check this out.

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That brick, hold on. That brick of GPUs in there is two, I want to say, 780s?

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Yeah, 780Ti's and two R9 290X's installed in the same system.

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So what was the idea here? Look at you just like in the background, making dinner.

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What am I doing?

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I forget what the point of this was. I thought you don't skip a beat either.

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Like you just, you could, games would scale in both or, I don't, man,

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what was the point? What was I trying to accomplish? There was a reason.

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Okay, NVIDIA SLI, yeah.

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Okay, yeah, we're playing some. I really think you're just trying to prove that it works.

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That you could have both drivers installed at the same time? Yeah, I think so.

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Look at all these DVI connections. That's absurd. This is hilarious.

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But I'm pretty sure that was, that was it, which is great.

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It's interesting. Even now, that's interesting.

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You can have both drivers, like what the heck? What am I looking at?

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Good gravy. What is this? Why did we put this in our promotion for Audible?

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Jebus, is that even Twitch safe?

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We did some stuff back then, I don't know, it was fine. Male presenting nipple.

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Dude, I, dude, I, I don't know, man.

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I've talked about this before, but I just get such a kick out of it

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anytime people are like, they'll TT used to be mature.

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Old, old LTT was better. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 100% better.

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Nah, new LTT is, new LTT is better. Why, you don't want to do Delta racing anymore?

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Look at this. Look at this. This is great. It's a Floatplane.

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Got a fox on it.

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Non-copywriting, fringing fire kits in A. 69 cents.

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Because of course it is. Yeah. And it's of course, time to say, see you again next week.

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Same bad time, same bad channel. I don't know, maybe not.

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Bye.