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All right, we should be live.

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What's up everybody? Coming live to you from the Taiwan show.

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I should get my, I was going to say Twitch chat.

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Okay, we are firing on all cylinders.

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We are brain slow today? Yeah. Well, I am.

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Me too, man. Get my float playing chat.

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When are we going to upgrade it?

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It's been float playing chat for all these years.

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I want float fancy chat. Oh my God.

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Nice. The ding works in case you're wondering.

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Being able to have ding remotely is pretty sick.

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Yeah. It's the only thing I've ever worked.

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Is this the side that is sticking down a bit? Hold on, I'll fix it.

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Dude, you have no idea how not awake yet I am.

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I had to run to my room to get my headphones and I went on the stairs and I went the wrong

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direction. I went to the floor above instead of the floor below.

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I was like, oh, well, when I want to go between the rooms, I walk up, right?

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So I'll just walk up again. I didn't even register until I put the key into someone else's room door and it didn't

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work and I was like, oh, that's not my floor at all.

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I definitely went down to grab something and came back up and forgot what room Andy was

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in and I think tried three doors. Oh, okay.

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But I tried to do it quietly to not wake people up. He tried more doors than me, but I tried one other door before I managed to get back

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in here. The one thing that I think Linus is out of sync?

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What? No. I have two in my kitchen, at least one in every bathroom.

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Technically, you own the offices and stuff.

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Yeah. You have an excessive amount of sync. Dude, so much sync?

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I love.

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I love. You're seeing the same thing I'm seeing. Adorable people in the Floatplane chat that are actually correcting my misunderstanding.

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You guys are great.

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Um, actually, they mean the audio sync on the video, not a sync that holds water.

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I don't know if that argument holds water.

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Oh, it's pretty good.

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Really not. I'm going to check your syncs.

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Do you have to talk, though?

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Uh, sorry, what did you say you wanted to do?

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I'm going to check your sync. I mean, it's... Oh, so...

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So, clap. Yeah, it's fine.

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Yeah. Yeah. He sure is clapping.

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Oh, sorry about that, Dan. I started out checking sync, and then I finished by applauding you for having the audio blind.

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Yay, the bare minimum.

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My favorite.

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Give me...

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Give me one more. A Floatplane chat says if you're out of sync, refresh.

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How are you supposed to freshen up if you don't have sync?

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I guess you could do it in the tub.

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One more. One more what?

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Clap. Oh, sure.

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Keep going.

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Yeah, that's fine. Okay, cool.

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How can some people say it's fine and some people say it's not fine?

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Some people say reloading helps. Other people do not say reloading helps.

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I think they...

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That's a good comment. If you're lioness and you know it, clap your hands.

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That's confusing. What do I just do?

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I don't know. How does that work?

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Where do we go from here?

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I think I've got a... My company now. I don't know what's going on.

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It broke the timeline. How dare you?

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Look at me. I am the lioness now.

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What's my latency on all of this?

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500 samples.

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I'll try 10 milliseconds.

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See what that does.

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Dan, do you need much longer?

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Are people still saying it's out of sync?

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I don't know. Yes, I am so tired.

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I can clap again. One second.

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Cool.

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Try 20 milliseconds.

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Try what now? I've tried 20 milliseconds.

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We'll see what that looks like. 20 milliseconds.

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20,000 seconds.

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Should we do this thing? Sure.

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No, I was trolling you. I was trolling you. I was clapping silently.

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Okay, we good?

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All right. Chat says it's okay.

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You absolute dick monster.

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Okay, should we do this thing?

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I'm ready, Dan. I'm doing unrelated work.

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I'm ready. Yeah, go for it.

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Oh, I guess I'm doing it.

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Yeah.

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Right, that makes sense.

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Fine. What do you mean Luke isn't Robin?

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Luke is definitely Robin. Everyone knows that Robin is the small, less buff one.

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Aw, crap.

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All right, fine, I'm Robin.

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Robin, him of his title as Batman, got him.

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So funny.

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Terrible. I don't even know what this show is going to be.

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Probably bad.

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I mean, as advertised then, same bad times, same bad channel.

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No, we don't actually say it's a bad show. It's always a good show.

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It's always a great show. It's a fair assumption if you're on a bad channel, it should be a bad show.

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Yeah, that's fair. But we say it's going to be a great show.

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Bad show, old boy.

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All right, I'm doing it. You ready?

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I'm good. All right.

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I am resuming the selected.

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That's not what this page is supposed to look like.

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What is up, you delightful marshmallow chickens?

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That's right. Y'all my peeps and we're here coming to you live.

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We got a great show lined up for you guys this week in classic NVIDIA fashion.

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They are currently at war with what seems like basically the entire tech media.

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We'll be talking about what's going on and also about how none of this is new.

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Cool. Go NVIDIA. Also, we'll be talking about some of the really cool stuff we saw here at Computex.

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Okay, there wasn't that much of that. We'll be talking about some of the zany stuff that we saw while we were here at Computex in Taiwan.

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What else we got this week, Mr. Luke?

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The German courts are doing genuinely very cool things.

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We both linked this. At least one cool thing.

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But it's the coolest thing that I think I've seen in many years out of Germany.

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That's fair. Steam OS. I'm not saying the Germans were right.

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Steam OS moves one step closer to a wider release with new update.

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Thank you. Intro button. I don't know.

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I don't have one. Who does it? Good luck, Dan.

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Cool. Can you do it? Nice.

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Can you do it? Nice try.

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The show is brought to you by... Oh God, I can't read the thing.

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Thermaltake. And don't forget our RAP partner, Dbrand.

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Our laptop partner, Dell.

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And our chair partner, whoever takes this golden chair in our hotel room.

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No, no. It's secret lab. It's secret lab.

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Okay, we are off to a really good start today.

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It's fantastic. What do you want to get into first?

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No problems. Should we talk about NVIDIA's little kerfuffle with reviewers?

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Sure. They're being nice before 5,000 series.

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Actually, why don't we talk about other Computex GPU things?

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Because there was actually a fair bit to like about...

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Well, there was a fair bit to be pretty okay with about GPUs at Computex.

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Do you think that stuff is interesting? Well, yeah.

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Yeah. Are you going to buy one?

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No. Cool. But I wasn't going to buy one anyways.

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AMD revealed the 9060 XT. It's going to be launching June 5th, which is in just a couple of weeks.

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The 8-gig version is $299, and we're not super stoked on that.

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But the 16-gig version is at an MSRP anyway of $349 with, yes, okay, it's only a 128-bit

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bus card, which used to mean it would be like $130, not $350.

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The performance looks pretty darn okay, and AMD is even like decent at ray tracing, and

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they've got like all the upscaling technology and all of that.

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So if you're into that, then you can turn all of that stuff on.

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I mean, that's pretty neat. I know a lot of people are really upset that there's even an 8-gig version of the card

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at all, but can I play Devil's Advocate for a moment here?

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No. Okay, let's move on. Intel announced the Arc Pro B60.

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Really? I mean, yeah, you can. You're just not going to let me?

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If you want. No, I mean, look, if that's the dynamic you want to have, I'm okay.

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You know, we could get some leather. You like that?

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Yeah. Oh, boy. Well, it's going to be one of those kinds of jokes today.

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Conveniently, there's a bed right here.

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Poor Andy.

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Yeah, Andy. I heard that if you do that kind of work, you basically can never find like, you know,

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non-ornographic work ever again. Is that going to be a problem for you?

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Is that a thing? I don't know.

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Couldn't you just not put it on your resume or just like get around?

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I mean, I...

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Are you suspecting me to know? Like, we might never know. Like, am I supposed to?

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Maybe he's done this kind of work under the table. I was one day only fun grader or only are on top of the table

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Tables got all kinds of surfaces you can get on top of or under sure

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Okay, so hold on hold on. Let me play devils at the kit for a moment for the 1960. Yeah

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a gig Should we be?

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Upset about AMD providing the option for someone to have a crappier GPU at a lower price

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The thing that gets me is the lower price is still 300. I'm assuming American dollars. Yes

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And the other thing that also gets me is that AMD just cannot decide what their story is on

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8-game GPUs because you know what whenever they have a you know a VRAM advantage. They're all like

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Pathetic Our competitor

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Full of crap basically and then when they don't they're like, oh, it doesn't matter. Yeah, then they're like, well

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Actually, it's fine for 1080p gaming I went with Sammy to a land cafe this week and like looking at

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Literally all of the games that everyone was playing

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It doesn't matter it wouldn't matter however, however

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Counterpoint. I was supposed to be the devil's advocate, but I guess we're

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Still doesn't make me happy if I'm spending 300 dollars on a car. I should get 16 gigs of ramp

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We're like roll over. Come on. It also to play those games

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To play those games that Luke is talking about, right? Yeah, I could also just be using

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Legends like I mean you might want high frame rate though

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This is true. This is true. I there's a lot of them. We're playing see a lot of them are playing CS 1.6

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Which was sick really? Yeah, one there was a mix of

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Shut up so sick So like no source and they had a they had a LAN version of like 1.6

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They could keep playing dude is LAN gaming coming. Okay, hold on a second because shoot this actually came we're gonna come back

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There was there was tons of League of Legends. Yeah, there was tons of Counter-Strike in general

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NVIDIA's whole kerfuffle with the media Because I actually want to completely pivot to another one of our topics and

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It's gonna be quite the pivot Where is I guess the the Google DeepMind VO3 video model? Okay, and I promise you this is related to people playing LAN versions of CS 1.6

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somehow, okay Google DeepMind VO3

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It's crazy. Oh, oh shoot. Is Dan gonna screen? We have no screen share. No

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Dan can you do example from prompt streamer getting a victory Royale with just his pickaxe? Yeah, this is

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Absolutely mind-blowing Dan hit them with that and then I'm gonna look over there for when it's done playing because

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I gotta tell you guys like I'm I follow the tech space

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I'm reasonably attuned with the the AIs that the kids are fooling around with if you didn't tell me that this was

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Completely generated like the dude in the corner

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The environment the player model if you didn't tell me that this was AI generated I

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Would not know It's it's it's it's gonna be really bad and

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This is just like this is not even the scariest example

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Dan can you queue up that pharmaceutical commercial? Oh, this one's brutal dude, dude. This is incredible

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Okay, I'm gonna not talk over this one

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Oh as soon as Dan's ready Thing worked every day felt heavy. I felt trapped playing up then I tried Pupperman our

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Prescription helps your body secrete a special pheromone that attracts puppies

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I took the pill before bed and when I woke up there. He was the love of my life

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The pill does not target to go ahead again, but we found that it's back to us

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There's there's people in chat being like wait, this is generated

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So Zen is like yeah, that looks like AI this is gonna fool over 90% of people over 90

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This is gonna fool over 99% probably there's a couple little things like I don't think we the dog's tongue

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Yeah, when he's licking the guy it like a little oddly

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Some stuff it does some weird stuff I don't think we saw it, but the I think there's two ladies sitting on a couch and the one her one part of her hair

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Doesn't move with her head while the other part does there's little things. There's little things

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like That was made with apparently

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$500 worth of credits. Yep

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That's wild which like that means in a year or two and buddy who made it so at

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PJ a says I used to shoot half million dollar pharmaceutical commercials. I made this for

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$500 in VO3 credits in less than a day

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He also says okay, I hate this but he also says what's the argument for spending $500,000 now and like I

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Hate that he's not wrong. He's not the only person asking that question. Yeah, and I promise you know

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The whole ethics conversation around

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Pharmaceutical companies I suspect they're not gonna mind especially when I don't know if you've seen it

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But almost every American pharmaceutical company spends more on marketing than they do on R&D

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So like if they can drop that marketing budget and not increase the R&D budget then surely they could lower prices

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Okay, so we're gonna come back to the other stuff in our Google I o rand up because

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That's the only part of it that I wanted to talk about that. Yes. I am tying back to people playing LAN games. I

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Have a theory My theory and maybe it's just the kind of thing that I tell myself

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When I crawl into my bed and pull my covers up and get into a fetal position every night and go oh my god

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the world I Have a theory

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We're doing a lot of that lately when nothing online is real

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The players I'm playing against who are realistically in many cases

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embodying I like this okay, or the

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news stories that I'm seeing in my social media feed or

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the When when or the oh the the the the questions and answers that I'm looking at on reddit

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remember we talked about that that undisclosed study that that

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That educational Institute did where they were just like having bots interact on r slash change my mind

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You know when nothing is real we're all gonna go you know what?

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Fuck it and get offline Oh

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We're gonna just like we're gonna play video games in person

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We're gonna we're gonna demand LAN play and if gaming companies won't

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Put LAN functionality into their games then we'll be like alright. I'm a play CS 1.6

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I don't remember where I read this, but I have read that apparently there's been an increase in

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like More provably bespoke products being demanded by consumers

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Yeah, that's actually just from Alibaba. Yeah, that's another perfect example of like everything fake everything just being mass-produced

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Slop, so there's there's been an increase in like I want to buy this product and I want a video of you making it

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Like that type of stuff Like oh, yeah

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Make a video of me making this product

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But if it's custom it's gonna be a little bit harder to match the physical product that it will yeah

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It will like actually a lot harder. It will dude. I um

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Maybe oh, okay. Oh

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But like there's no point being for or against AI progress because it just it's gonna happen

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The the horse the horse bolted from the pen at this point ages ago

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Anyone still having the conversation of like should we do this or not is just by yeah, so so unfortunately

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So I'm realistically it doesn't matter what the next thing I say is if I say I'm for it or against it

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It is irrelevant right, but maybe that's the one comforting thought that could make me go. Okay, okay

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Maybe that's the the positive outcome that that might come from this

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Identifiable, you know scams have been for many years

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The video is not up yet. It should be coming very soon that collab we did with Kit Boga. Yeah, right?

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If people are still being fooled by Nigerian Prince emails effectively

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It's gonna be so long before my hopeful outcome could ever possibly happen before this information

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About misinformation and disinformation

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Propagates enough that we all just go. You know what basically?

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I just I just don't believe anything forget it and you can you can help ARM some people

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But it'll it'll never work for everybody. I mean, there's there's the problem of like

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Some of those Nigerian Prince scams they they include things like weird typos and and things that could tip you off on purpose

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Because they're trying to weed out people that are actually paying attention. I

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Did not ever think about yeah, that's like a thing or barely, but I wonder if that bar gets higher

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The the easier it is to be more and more convincing all the time. I think so. I feel like it was yeah

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No, oh 100% no, I think more people are going to get scammed. I mean now that you could just generate

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You know a photorealistic Linus that will show you his tech tip and ask you to respond like I I actually saw someone on the

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Subreddit that was saying that a scammer used my name and was

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Apparently giving away Mac books, which should have been your first

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Why anyone want that I'm kidding. I'm kidding Andy relax. It's okay

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He's on a Mac book now that I gave it. Oh, yeah

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Yeah, I think most the editors Andy were mostly editors this trip on Mac books

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Yeah, we found that that the adobe suite is actually more stable on Mac

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Which matters more when we're on mobile hardware. We're so cooked

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Not great. Yeah, not awesome. I look I'm uh, I'm

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Contrary to the narratives that are constructed

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I am not for or against anything other than whatever its utility is to me or someone else and

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The price, you know and and also the the intangibles or actually I was gonna lie

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I was gonna call repairability and intangible, but repairing things is actually quite tangible

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So so the other you know the the other exit factors

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And if a Mac book is the best tool for the job then gosh darn it, we're gonna use a Mac book for it

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I don't care. Yeah, nice. I do agree

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I do I was using my Mac book from the Mac book challenge so far past the 30 days

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It's a great computer. I so I got I got this is a new work laptop

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My last work laptop is like four or five years old. It couldn't do broadcast anymore. You don't need to you don't need to excuse that you

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allocated yourself budget

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For a brand new machine when you had a perfectly working machine

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So we used the old Lenovo warranty thing and the dude showed up and like swap the screen really I mean that was cool

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There's multiple delays cough cough, but it wasn't debilitating

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So it wasn't that big of a deal now and it hasn't happened yet this show which is great

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But last show we experienced it the screen will just completely lock the computer still functions behind like I can still

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Click on things even but the screen will completely lock and the only way to fix it is to sleep the computer wake it back up again

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And I one of the guys from Hardware Canucks. I was trying to him. Yeah, he has the same laptop needs the same issue

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Why and that my friends is why our laptop partner for the WAN Show is Dell

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Have actually been like rock-solid they have you might even say heart-touching wait no no wrong bad

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Okay, so wait how okay, I don't know how we got to where we are now from 8 gig cards. Mm-hmm

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Counter-strike. Oh, right. Don't worry about it. Yeah. Let's talk about GPUs at Computex. Yeah Intel announced the Arc Pro

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B60 and B50 workstation cards

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They're using their XE to battle mage architecture with wow. Thank you whoever prepared these notes today

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XE vector engines and XE matrix extensions engines

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Okay, none of that is the important thing about Arc Pro

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The important thing about Arc Pro is that we are talking about cards with certified drivers for just a few hundred dollars

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B50 is not going to be lighting anyone's world on fire in terms of its groundbreaking performance

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But what it does have is certified flipping drivers so that when you're building out, you know

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Architectural firms office and everyone and their flipping dog needs a professional GPU

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You can take your little, you know slim line

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You know octuplex stations or whatever you can slap these babies in there

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They are I believe they max out at 70 watts, which means that they can work without a PCIe power cable

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They are dual width half height They come with both the half height and full height bracket so you can throw these things into basically any desktop

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chassis and Boom, and I was actually I got to admit

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When Intel put up the slides about compared to last gen. I was like

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Y'all had an alchemist pro GPU. Yeah

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Totally missed that Did anyone care? Wait, did they actually? Yeah. Oh, well, I had no idea. Yeah. No, I had I had no idea and

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And so I was I was quite surprised because the slide that had all of the companies that they had certified

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their drivers with was like

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Impressive. I was like yo solid works auto desk

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blender like Y'all y'all got like like really like the big names here

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Oh, yeah, that's really good for a first-gen product that it hasn't even launched yet, but just

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Just like on the gaming side like Intel software side for arc has been cooking

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Like the amount of performance they squeezed out of what I think now that battlemages out

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Intel would probably even admit was a

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Fundamentally flawed architecture in alchemist like they had they had issues with the

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I think it was with the internal caching or something that was the reason that

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Like you absolutely needed resizable bar or it basically went to crap town in a hurry in terms of performance

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I forget what the exact technical reason was but like there were hardware reasons that alchemist was not very good

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Boy, did they ever squeeze a lot of it and that gives me so much

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Confidence in their commit level because you can release a GPU

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Relatively easily and I say this as a as a as a lay person who could not possibly hope to design and release a GPU

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I say this as like compared to a CPU GPUs are

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Relatively relatively simple

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But it's the software the software will kill you that's that's the challenge that Intel knew that they were coming up against it

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Parallel processor the rate at which you need to release stable

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Drivers right because of all these new games coming out and stuff like damn. Here's a question for you. Yeah

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Do you think? Arc can survive and thrive and continue forward

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If tap retires Let's get to that in a second first. Let's talk about the b60. This is a more performant card

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This one instead of being 70 watts. I believe it's a couple hundred watts

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Don't don't quote me on that though. The watts are not in here. It doesn't matter

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The point is this is meant to be more like a cheap and cheerful

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24 gig AI capable card that you can have in a slightly higher end workstation

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Slash they have this concept that they were showing off called battle matrix and they're doing some again down to the software

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They're doing some software Tom foolery that's supposed to make it much easier to take a whole pool of these cards up to eight of them

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Combine the memory split up your AI workloads so you can chunk it out and chew on the whole thing in parallel and

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You know what is the performance going to be as good as an NVIDIA solution?

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Be real no right, but the price a lot cheaper, but the price

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Literally we are talking about if Intel gets their way and this comes to market at the pricing that they're targeting

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We are talking about like a full-fat rack mount solution with a hundred ninety two gigs of usable VRAM

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Plus you can you know stack it up with system memory that you can overflow into we're talking about starting it anywhere from five to

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$10,000 and they're not giving pricing for b60 pro

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But what they are saying is that that five to ten thousand dollars is for the whole chassis with anywhere from one to eight

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GPUs, so it's like okay. I think I can do the math and and

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On the record, but you know don't quote me on this

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Right sure yeah, they're saying that they think they can do even better than the seven hundred dollars or so per GPU

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That that would that five to ten thousand dollar mark works out, too

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Like given time, I mean the hardware right the hardware is literally just an arc b580

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Yeah, for the for the b60 pro for the pro b60 excuse me, so yeah

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Nothing should prevent them from doing this for you know 500 bucks or whatever and if the goal is to get an install base out there, which is an assignment that Intel seems to

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somewhat understand at this point then

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That's exactly what you need to do You make this investment up front in the software ecosystem for developers and then you make the hardware

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accessible If I can get like a whole last server platform for it realistically

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Not that different to price from like a Mac studio

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And like that that is a

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You know a decently substantial group of people because there's a lot of like small the medium-sized businesses that want local

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like LLMs Inline ID assistance stuff like that

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That are building these solutions

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And if you could just do it with arc cards like why not dude

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speaking of arc cards and pricing I had a

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Intense conversation

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With a very very very old old acquaintance of mine Vivian who is running the discrete GPU

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She's a VP and GM. So basically running discrete GPU for Intel arc

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where I Have to confess Vivian if you're watching this, I know you don't watch my own show

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That's totally fine. But if you're watching this, which you're not

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I'm sorry. I was a little cranky I got a little bit set off by one of the slides that Intel had in their deck

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the whole the whole thing was about arc pro and you know, I

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So I Didn't make the video about this or anything like that

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But their arc pro deck had one slide right at the beginning. Okay, that was like

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Arc battle mage, so it was about the non-pro right arc battle mage

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leading performance per dollar and you know, basically was kind of setting the stage for

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Let's go non-gamers. We got we're gonna have great performance for per dollar just like we do with our gaming cards

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and It was like best performance per dollar

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asterisk

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Best value for GPUs under $300 which is

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One hell of an asterisk. Yeah, that's a asterisk too as of November 2024

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because Yeah, okay, so so that was my face that's rough the November 2024

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I suspect is probably just because that's when they ran the numbers and they're not gonna rerun those numbers for one slide in an arc pro presentation, so

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I'll let that one fairly convenient time to have ran the numbers. I'll let that one pass

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I'll let that one pass But the one also a bit a long time since the one that I was really upset about was that it said under 300

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US dollars and When I basically was like, hey, so look, I don't want to be that guy

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But it's literally my job to press GPU companies on the fact that

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GPUs cannot be purchased at MSRP I don't like

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You guys showing this slide when I can't buy an arc B580 for under 300 dollars

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Yeah, and this card shouldn't be able to be on the slide that it's that's when the conversation got a little bit

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Intense and that's at least

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93% my fault because I was just

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We got off on the wrong foot a little bit. I really didn't like that and

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The and then the response was not great. I'm not gonna name who said this part

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Because it was it was whole group setting. There was like a dozen Intel people in the room

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So someone was like, yes, you can and I was like

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Okay, show me and they pulled up like mine factory dot de or something and I'm like, right

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That's where I got a little I got a little more frustrated your slide says us dollars

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You don't get to convert euros to us dollars and tell me I can buy an arc B580

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For under 300 us dollars that sir is actually bullshit. That's wack. You're not allowed to do that

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Yeah, and so what I basically said to them is look

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What I need is I don't need you to fix it right now

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I don't need you to call up new egg who is in the middle of the night now and tell them to do to fix their pricing

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But what I need is a coherent

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Strategy that Intel will be employing to ensure that arc B580s will be available at MSRP in the US in US dollars and

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Then I got More intense because basically and I'm not going to name sort of names

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But people started to kind of pipe up and go well, you know

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We can't control what our board partners do in terms of pricing and what retailers do in terms of pricing and I basically was like

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I'm not you finish but I

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Worked in the channel Do not tell me that you absolutely have levers you absolutely do

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Whether or not you choose to pull them that is your choice

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But you have levers you have levers in terms of Arizona iced tea you can do it

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You have levers in terms of production you have levers in terms of

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Allocation of parts you have levers in terms of the marketing funding that you provide to your partners both

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manufacturing partners and Retail partners you have levers in terms of the fact that you have a founders edition

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You have your limited edition cards that have an Intel label on them that you could literally control the pricing on that only

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Exist so that you can put pressure on other board partners to fall in line in terms of pricing

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Everybody knows that's why founders edition exists, right?

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You I just listed and that's not even all of the levers

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I listed many levers that you have to manage channel pricing. It's not legal in every market, but there is

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Actually, okay, that typically goes the other way, but there's there's things like map pricing where you have a minimum advertised price

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It that can be considered price-fixing depending on the market. I'm just saying

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Illegal or not Many brands attempt to do it. So so there are levers there are levers to pull and

430
00:43:26,720 --> 00:43:29,840
After things got a little intense for a little bit

431
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:36,960
I got a firm commitment that Intel would come to me with a strategy where they were gonna get pricing

432
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:45,080
To MSRP and I didn't I didn't even ask for like 249 99. I was like look I get it

433
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:50,000
This one has three fans on it. It's 269 99

434
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:57,120
Okay, yeah, okay. This is an OC sure, you know, whatever probably variants whatever that's fine. Yeah, that's fine

435
00:43:57,120 --> 00:44:04,880
there's there's there's More than a decade of precedent for hey, this one is a little more. This is one's a little more

436
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:12,040
Fixy-fixy You know we we did some extra special stuff with the VRMs

437
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:22,840
No problem with that But if you're going to say and this is this is where the sticking point is if you're going to say this GPU cost this much and

438
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:30,400
You're gonna ask me to say this GPU cost this much. Don't make me a liar. Yeah, I don't like that

439
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:36,240
Now hold on a second call me Anna says isn't this a slippery slope?

440
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:40,440
Isn't this level of control the same thing you criticize NVIDIA for?

441
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:43,840
What I criticize NVIDIA for is

442
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:52,280
Multifaceted and I guess that actually trends transitions us perfectly into our next topic, which is RTX 5060 and

443
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:57,280
in general NVIDIA's current kerfuffle with the media

444
00:44:57,960 --> 00:44:59,960
very very broadly

445
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:09,080
NVIDIA's level of control is unlike almost any other company in the industry I would say maybe

446
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:17,600
Not maybe Apple and NVIDIA are the two kind of birds of a feather that I point to when I look at the level of control

447
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:23,600
That they maintain over their product their their image and branding their partners

448
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:30,680
The media they they both exercise it in their own special unique ways

449
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:38,780
I mean I remember that video that Marquez and who's the but Mr. Who's the boss did like ages ago talking about the way that

450
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:44,840
Companies can control narrative control the narrative through access neither of them named Apple

451
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:49,720
Which I thought was curious at the time. I was kind of sitting there going

452
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:53,400
companies that that

453
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:57,200
Refuse to work with you if you you know

454
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:04,320
You can criticize the product, but you know if you talk about them the wrong way they refuse to work with you

455
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:08,360
We don't mention them in our video about companies that do that, but I get it

456
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:13,720
I Yeah, so Apple is a great example of

457
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:19,040
You've got to kind of play the game and they don't tell you what the rules are

458
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:26,000
So you just have to err on the side of you know not saying the wrong things to make sure that you you know stay on the list, right?

459
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:32,600
Yeah NVIDIA doesn't NVIDIA doesn't do things that way

460
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:37,080
NVIDIA for the most part actually

461
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:41,840
Takes criticism. We've criticized NVIDIA a lot over the years

462
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:48,400
They have generally been okay about taking criticism from the media and I suspect the reason for it is

463
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:55,480
It used to be that in general they saw the benefit of working with media and understood that they had to take their lumps

464
00:46:56,080 --> 00:47:00,640
And then now I think it's because they just kind of don't care I think it's because it's just sort of irrelevant

465
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:04,880
So the reason has changed but in general they they've taken criticism from the media

466
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:07,000
Yeah, they seem to take criticism, but they

467
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:14,600
They can be pushy about the message that they want Oh, they can they don't care if you like the whole after them

468
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:20,800
They can be they can be pushy and they can be petty and they can be vindictive. Yes. Oh, yeah

469
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:26,320
big on that last big on that last one and and I've talked in the past about how I do think that it is a

470
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:31,280
Fundamental cultural issue at the company. I think it comes from the top down

471
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:35,280
But in general they have they have

472
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:44,160
mostly Mostly sort of, you know tried to work with the media, but they also have their own

473
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:55,400
Issues and it goes way back Was it the 1080 launch the one where you guys were stuck in a room with no internet while NVIDIA basically

474
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:59,560
Did the entire announcement that prior to that?

475
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:06,080
You know, they would have briefed the press and the press would have done it and they they've slowly taken over the role of of

476
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:11,200
Spreading the news about NVIDIA that the media used to have and made it NVIDIA's job

477
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:19,320
I don't remember the exact details, but if I remember correctly They didn't tell us stuff like the price and a few other like really key things that if you

478
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:24,680
Published an announcement video you would really expect to have and they kept those for the keynote

479
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:29,160
And then the keynote was like really long and we couldn't really leave during it

480
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:33,880
And then after the keynote we were stuck in this weird location where like nobody had internet

481
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:37,800
There was no appropriate places to film and there was a dead mouse concert

482
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:43,880
Super loud in a relatively small building so that you could still hear it when you're outside

483
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:47,640
So you couldn't actually record because you just get I mean

484
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:51,360
I'm not saying that dead most himself would necessarily do this just to be clear

485
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:55,400
But like I'm assuming he's under some form of label that might try to

486
00:48:55,800 --> 00:49:03,160
Copy strike your video or whatever. So like it was a very complicated situation and it was very intentional

487
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:09,200
Yeah, so so so NVIDIA's NVIDIA's

488
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:13,160
Control I guess what I'm saying is it's weird

489
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:19,680
And it changes right that's the thing that I think a lot of people miss when we're when we talk about a company is

490
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:28,400
Moves that NVIDIA pulled ten years ago Are not we're not executed by the same people that are you know pulling moves today?

491
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:33,400
So, you know back to back to managing pricing. Yes

492
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:41,520
Yes, NVIDIA absolutely put undue pressure on their board partners to meet MSRP targets that

493
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:47,040
Were not sustainable for their businesses. Yeah, it's a different problem

494
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:53,000
We saw a large number of NVIDIA board partners disappear over the last ten and fifteen years

495
00:49:54,200 --> 00:50:01,440
However, however, I don't have a reason to believe just yet that Intel is doing the other

496
00:50:02,240 --> 00:50:08,520
Problematic part of that that NVIDIA was doing where they are not providing their board partners with adequate margin for survival

497
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:14,040
That was the issue was that NVIDIA was forcing this artificially low price

498
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:17,440
While slowly slowly slowly slowly slowly

499
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:24,040
Chipping away the margin that they were leaving for their board partners in that target price

500
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:28,880
I think this type of stuff including a lot of other things is why EVGA ended up Bailey

501
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:34,480
NVIDIA also put extremely restrictive

502
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:36,800
I was gonna say the word guidelines, but

503
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:42,160
They're less guidelines and more pirate law

504
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:48,000
They put extremely restrictive guidelines in place for their board partners in terms of the types of products

505
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:51,720
They could build in order to differentiate their own brand like

506
00:50:53,040 --> 00:51:01,760
project or Sorry g-force partner program g-force partner program, which was called out many years ago by Kyle from hard ocp

507
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:09,160
He was the one who ended up I think he's probably been blackballed by NVIDIA more times than the current crop of youtubers combined. Yeah

508
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:18,040
Kyle from hard ocp did a really great job of investigating the g-force partner program, which was this extremely

509
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:25,160
restrictive System that NVIDIA put in place for their partners that controlled everything from what kinds of products

510
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:29,400
They could build to what they could clock them at to how they could package them and message them

511
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:36,040
So if you've noticed over the last ten years that g-force boards have gotten more and more

512
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:40,720
Samey and boring even down to the package extremely so

513
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:45,600
You ever notice the packages all look the same now even this one. Yeah, of course

514
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:49,200
It's got it has all the all the requirements

515
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:56,720
like That they used to be so fun, that's what NVIDIA does

516
00:51:57,240 --> 00:52:01,640
Oh, we have the topic about that too actually. Oh, okay. I think he hasn't read the whole doc yet

517
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:04,200
No, that one's gonna be pretty fun. So so yes

518
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:09,280
Yes Putting pressure on your partners

519
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:13,680
Okay, to you know maintain pricing in the channel or whatever

520
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:20,520
Yes, that is something that I have criticized NVIDIA for but it's part of the broader

521
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:25,320
NVIDIA behavior that puts their partners in a position of

522
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:33,840
constant fear You know you talk to you talk to an NVIDIA partner off the record and you kind of go, okay

523
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:42,000
Well, like Yeah, why don't you just why don't you just take some of those GPUs that you've got and put them on like a cool

524
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:47,640
small form factor card We're like, oh

525
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:53,600
Because dad I'm like that. We're afraid. Yeah. Yeah, dad will never give me another GPU again

526
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:58,640
dad will take my allocation of GPUs which I do still make money on and I

527
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:06,080
Need to make money on because I spent all this development cost building these approved that approved products

528
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:11,320
It'll just take my allocation for that quarter and give it to my biggest competitor and

529
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:16,680
I don't know for a fact allegedly allegedly

530
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:21,600
I don't know for a fact that they would do that But I've I've I've heard this fear

531
00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:28,000
Consistently enough from enough of dad's children. Oh, yeah, that I think I kind of I think I kind of believe it

532
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:30,640
Yeah

533
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:35,720
So that's that thing happened by the way Oh nice

534
00:53:35,720 --> 00:53:42,960
So screen is completely locked and I have to sleep it and then wake it up again, and it'll work fine

535
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:48,800
So if you've ever wondered what what happened, do you remember those really cool little as rock mini desktops?

536
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:58,680
That used MXM. Yeah Laptop GPUs you ever wonder what happened to those you ever you ever you ever wonder why there was never you know

537
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:09,120
Updated mobile GPU things for a particular generation of laptops you ever wonder why framework has only radion as options

538
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:13,880
You ever wonder any of these things it's because

539
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:16,400
allegedly NVIDIA's partners are

540
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:25,120
Terrified I got Petrified would be the right word. Yes. They won't act. Yeah, they are they are petrified of

541
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:32,560
Running a fowl of NVIDIA by producing a product that NVIDIA hasn't signed off on and I got to tell you

542
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:38,120
Some of the off-the-record conversations I've had so I can't repeat these because they would be too identifiable

543
00:54:38,720 --> 00:54:46,080
Right some of the off-the-record conversations that I've had about NVIDIA's logic for why these products can't exist

544
00:54:46,720 --> 00:54:54,280
Dude, it is some moon logic like makes literally no technical sense like like

545
00:54:55,520 --> 00:55:01,360
Like like fall of an empire people who have no idea what any of this is are making decisions

546
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:04,880
That have no basis in logic or reality

547
00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:11,240
And it's very troubling However, however, I was chatting with Alex

548
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:20,520
and He has a theory that oh hold on. We should do a recap of the 5060. Okay, so 5060. It's eight gigs

549
00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:28,120
128 bit bus. It's three hundred dollars. It loses to the 3060 TI and arc B580 in some tests

550
00:55:28,720 --> 00:55:35,320
Multiple creators like hardware unboxed Jays two cents Paul's hardware digital foundry and more have criticized both the card

551
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:38,360
And this is where we get into sort of NVIDIA's

552
00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:45,840
Not playing ball Fairly, I think I think I've talked about I've talked about this phrase a lot

553
00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:52,400
I think in the last couple of years is good faith, you know, what does good faith mean engaging in good faith, right?

554
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:59,520
It means that, you know Being most for the most part, right fourth right honest

555
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:08,300
Working together on you know a solution that benefits everybody and and I think that's what the media asks for from

556
00:56:08,740 --> 00:56:14,180
Companies right is can we work together in good faith understanding the value that we each bring to the table?

557
00:56:14,180 --> 00:56:20,660
I understand NVIDIA the value that you are bringing to the table by providing me with the card

558
00:56:21,540 --> 00:56:27,260
Early so that I can test it and evaluate it that has a positive effect on my business

559
00:56:27,260 --> 00:56:31,940
That is that also has a positive reflect on the audience and positive effect on the yeah

560
00:56:31,940 --> 00:56:40,380
So that has a positive effect on my business It also has a positive effect on the audience who gets to have all the reviews multiple perspectives

561
00:56:40,380 --> 00:56:44,420
Which Luke and I have always stressed is extremely important

562
00:56:44,580 --> 00:56:51,140
All of which had ample time to put together their analysis and and present it in a way that is

563
00:56:51,780 --> 00:56:57,940
Professional and thorough without being pushed or or forced really to say anything in particular

564
00:56:58,660 --> 00:57:06,740
Very key very key and that's part of NVIDIA's benefit. What NVIDIA gets in return is the credibility of

565
00:57:07,460 --> 00:57:13,680
These quotes that hey this card is good or it's really well optimized for that that they can then use to

566
00:57:14,060 --> 00:57:17,140
Market that card without having to pay for it

567
00:57:17,140 --> 00:57:23,020
Actually, my understanding is a lot of publications do charge for them to have the the logo or the badge or the quote or whatever

568
00:57:23,020 --> 00:57:31,340
We don't but in a lot of cases That's the that's the quid pro quo is we get access to the card so that we can do a great job

569
00:57:31,580 --> 00:57:35,220
you get more thorough more complete information because

570
00:57:35,820 --> 00:57:38,860
everybody isn't rushing against each other to be the first to publish and

571
00:57:39,380 --> 00:57:46,540
NVIDIA gets credible third-party validation of their claims about the product that is everybody working together in good faith and

572
00:57:46,860 --> 00:57:50,500
This launch has not been handled

573
00:57:50,660 --> 00:57:55,380
Well reviewers were not given drivers in time for the initial embargo

574
00:57:56,340 --> 00:58:00,180
We actually it's it's kind of funny to me that right now

575
00:58:00,660 --> 00:58:04,920
This time exactly now is when everybody's like really mad about this

576
00:58:06,180 --> 00:58:15,580
We made a video a one month ago now about the situation where NVIDIA wasn't providing drivers for the 8 gig variance of the 4060 series and

577
00:58:15,820 --> 00:58:25,060
we basically Said exactly what they've done now, which is it looks like what they're trying to do is they're trying to create an environment where all the

578
00:58:25,060 --> 00:58:30,940
Reviews of when you search for keyword 4060 are going to be of the TI 16 gig

579
00:58:31,900 --> 00:58:37,580
Because they're just not even going to bother seeding these other cards and they're going to kind of try to try to bury it and make

580
00:58:37,580 --> 00:58:45,220
Sure that it doesn't get covered that much So therefore the best performing videos on the topic of 4060 are going to be for this card that performs

581
00:58:45,780 --> 00:58:47,780
Markably markedly better

582
00:58:48,860 --> 00:58:51,500
Hey, it came to pass. We're not about it now

583
00:58:52,380 --> 00:58:57,220
I don't know whose permission we were waiting for to be mad about but hey, we're all on the same page now

584
00:58:58,660 --> 00:59:03,260
But there's another layer that is actually that is actually worse

585
00:59:03,980 --> 00:59:06,840
and this is this is this is

586
00:59:07,700 --> 00:59:13,300
This is not good Some creators were given access to the drivers ahead of time

587
00:59:13,980 --> 00:59:18,780
But only if they agreed to certain stipulations like testing games at 1080p

588
00:59:19,340 --> 00:59:24,820
Including older cards like the RTX 2060 and 3060 or even requiring

589
00:59:25,540 --> 00:59:30,580
Multiframe Gen results to be included now. I want to make this very clear

590
00:59:31,140 --> 00:59:35,660
In our review of a 4068 gig should we do one?

591
00:59:36,300 --> 00:59:40,220
We would seek to include older cards 50 Susie

592
00:59:40,460 --> 00:59:43,420
We would include. Oh, sorry. Thank you 50 60

593
00:59:43,460 --> 00:59:50,500
We would seek to include older cards because I think that's really relevant especially you want to track what people would actually be upgrading large install base

594
00:59:50,500 --> 00:59:55,120
Yeah, okay, we would include Multiframe Gen tests. We we have done

595
01:00:02,460 --> 01:00:09,140
Wouldn't be doing is limiting our testing to that because that does not paint the entire picture

596
01:00:09,180 --> 01:00:13,700
So NVIDIA did exactly what I predicted they would do

597
01:00:14,260 --> 01:00:16,860
But they actually took it a step further

598
01:00:17,820 --> 01:00:23,060
Then I thought that they were capable of and that last part

599
01:00:23,660 --> 01:00:32,660
We should be extremely Upset about it's not the first time that NVIDIA has teased a card through select media

600
01:00:32,660 --> 01:00:39,300
In fact, we have Participated in that before we did we were the first to game on the 3090

601
01:00:39,300 --> 01:00:44,820
I think it was us and MKBHD went live with 3090 videos before the review embargo

602
01:00:44,900 --> 01:00:49,220
But in that situation, it was clearly not a review

603
01:00:49,420 --> 01:00:55,060
There were stipulations on what we could show but all of that was communicated

604
01:00:55,620 --> 01:01:00,300
extremely transparently It was a it was a preview

605
01:01:01,020 --> 01:01:09,860
whereas I Also tend to not mind like if a if a manufacturer is like hey, we really want to show off this particular use case

606
01:01:10,660 --> 01:01:18,620
It's not necessarily a bad thing to include But you should still include the things that you want to include and you can mention in that part of your video like

607
01:01:20,660 --> 01:01:29,100
X Manufacturer X company whatever thinks this use case is important and then give your opinion on why you agree or don't agree

608
01:01:29,700 --> 01:01:32,020
I don't know. I think that's fine

609
01:01:33,220 --> 01:01:35,220
so

610
01:01:36,740 --> 01:01:40,940
Lane And like not too surprised it

611
01:01:43,340 --> 01:01:45,940
It's kind of sad to me that NVIDIA seemed to get

612
01:01:47,060 --> 01:01:52,580
Pretty cool leading up to the 5000 series launch. Yeah, and then they're just like yeah

613
01:01:52,580 --> 01:01:59,140
We're not releasing, you know new cards for probably like two years anyway, so so I want to talk about that

614
01:01:59,780 --> 01:02:02,980
I Had a chat with Alex

615
01:02:03,020 --> 01:02:09,940
We just like bumped into each other in the lobby because we're staying in the same hotel, you know things that happen. Yeah, and

616
01:02:10,780 --> 01:02:12,780
he had an interesting theory

617
01:02:14,260 --> 01:02:18,740
that NVIDIA's behavior right now is

618
01:02:20,460 --> 01:02:27,380
Not born out of malice But is born out of just utter incompetence

619
01:02:28,180 --> 01:02:37,100
Hold on let me get there for a second. Give me a second to get there what I was very specific about the words born out of

620
01:02:38,580 --> 01:02:46,140
So his theory is that after the 5090 the 50 see and and and his theory is like, you know

621
01:02:46,700 --> 01:02:51,940
There's a lot of evidence to back this up is that the rollout of the 50 series has been a cluster

622
01:02:51,940 --> 01:02:57,900
Oh, yeah, like there was the black screening issue. There was the issue with cards not having

623
01:02:59,100 --> 01:03:06,260
The the right number of Cuda cores in them. They somehow managed to still ship that connector. They shipped some with more

624
01:03:06,420 --> 01:03:13,340
They yeah, the the the the engineering oversight on the 5090 with the with the

625
01:03:13,820 --> 01:03:18,220
Pin balancing the I mean what what else is there been? Oh, okay?

626
01:03:18,220 --> 01:03:24,420
I mean, there's the fact that there's the fact that they're announcing 5060 laptops here at Computex

627
01:03:24,420 --> 01:03:27,740
And you still can't buy a 5070 laptop

628
01:03:30,460 --> 01:03:33,340
I never put that together, but that's rough. Well, dude

629
01:03:34,940 --> 01:03:45,500
Like that I I don't I don't think that the g-force side at NVIDIA is either being resourced correctly or

630
01:03:45,860 --> 01:03:51,980
Or There's that story. I don't know if we talked about on Wanshoe if I just heard this somewhere, but

631
01:03:53,620 --> 01:03:58,380
Jensen was talking to their whatever I'm gonna assume the title here, but like head of AI at NVIDIA

632
01:03:58,980 --> 01:04:04,460
And said to imagine every NVIDIA employee standing in the parking lot and

633
01:04:05,220 --> 01:04:08,620
That they were all available and ready to work for AI

634
01:04:09,300 --> 01:04:15,420
So basically you can loot any team in the company for whoever you want and that I'm sure that happened to g-force

635
01:04:15,500 --> 01:04:20,020
To a certain degree. So so let's come back to my very specific wording

636
01:04:20,020 --> 01:04:24,420
I don't think that this was born out of malice, but I think that

637
01:04:25,060 --> 01:04:30,820
Once your back is against the wall. I think you start to I think you start to

638
01:04:31,780 --> 01:04:36,740
find underhanded ways to dodge accountability I

639
01:04:37,500 --> 01:04:43,260
Think that I think that in order to I think that I think this is an exercise in butt covering

640
01:04:43,260 --> 01:04:45,940
I think trying to cover up how crap

641
01:04:46,860 --> 01:04:53,580
5060 is I think this is and this is never so I guess what you're saying is it wasn't pre-meditated

642
01:04:53,580 --> 01:04:56,380
Yes, things started to go bad and then they did

643
01:04:57,060 --> 01:05:07,140
Bad things. Yes That's my that's my theory. Okay, that's my theory because I think you and I have both met a lot of technical people at NVIDIA

644
01:05:07,300 --> 01:05:17,220
Who would never Dream of misleading about the product. Sure the technical guys there are so good. They I mean they literally

645
01:05:17,540 --> 01:05:23,060
the NVIDIA literally built the industry standard tools for

646
01:05:23,580 --> 01:05:27,940
or built industry standard tools for testing, you know frame times and

647
01:05:28,940 --> 01:05:34,700
GPU power monitoring that tend to be like pretty well respected and fair they really like care about

648
01:05:34,980 --> 01:05:38,900
You know making a great product. So let's not imagine for a second

649
01:05:39,300 --> 01:05:45,780
That the technical folks there are not aware of issues. Yeah. Yeah, right and and and if you talk to them about it

650
01:05:45,780 --> 01:05:53,580
They're they're like, yeah Yeah, this one's like really good at this and this is a challenge in this, you know scenario and so

651
01:05:54,700 --> 01:06:00,980
If I had to guess I'd say this just basically comes down to the same kinds of issues that you know

652
01:06:00,980 --> 01:06:08,040
We'd run into with with Intel during the the stagnation years where you just have you know these business monsters

653
01:06:08,200 --> 01:06:11,560
these executives that are just looking to cover their hide and

654
01:06:11,920 --> 01:06:17,880
Figure out how to get their quarterly bonus by covering up the the products that aren't you know

655
01:06:18,320 --> 01:06:21,920
Aren't that good hoping like I don't know the media won't notice or whatever

656
01:06:23,120 --> 01:06:28,840
and It just it just sucks because I feel bad for all those really incredible

657
01:06:29,560 --> 01:06:34,680
Technical people who are really trying to build the best possible product. I mean this is that's fair

658
01:06:34,680 --> 01:06:40,600
This is a similar story like all the time, right? You have the same thing with developers at gaming companies

659
01:06:42,760 --> 01:06:50,440
Like the people working on the thing itself are not making the marketing and business decisions at the company

660
01:06:50,720 --> 01:06:56,040
But they catch a lot of the flak and a lot of times They're the ones making the thing so it's their baby

661
01:06:56,040 --> 01:07:03,040
So they feel the flak more heavily than some of the people making the decisions around how it's marketed how it's communicated stuff like that

662
01:07:03,400 --> 01:07:09,520
Yeah, I saw a really cool quote from someone at take two that was basically just like

663
01:07:10,040 --> 01:07:17,040
Yeah, I don't know rockstar. We just leave them alone. Yeah, the CEO was it. Yeah, I just came across it and I was like, yeah

664
01:07:17,040 --> 01:07:19,560
That's cool. Yeah, it was sweet. I want to find it

665
01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:28,880
Like dude, can you imagine? I mean, okay, look the technical folks don't always make sustainable business decisions

666
01:07:29,400 --> 01:07:31,900
You know, you sometimes it's also a little privileged

667
01:07:32,580 --> 01:07:37,180
Being like the company that owns rockstar to be like, yeah, we just leave them alone

668
01:07:37,180 --> 01:07:42,500
There's like billions of dollars. So we're just like, oh, it's fine. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. Yes. Yes. Yes

669
01:07:42,500 --> 01:07:47,140
And if rockstar, you know, wasn't you know making what was it?

670
01:07:47,140 --> 01:07:51,340
They're still making like a quarter billion dollars a quarter on GTA 5

671
01:07:51,460 --> 01:07:55,660
Yeah, and I think over 200 million dollars a quarter on Red Dead Redemption

672
01:07:56,340 --> 01:08:01,140
So apparently the it's a I can't show you guys but a games radar

673
01:08:02,660 --> 01:08:10,100
article that says take twos CEO is probably the world's only person to refuse the chance to play GTA 6

674
01:08:10,980 --> 01:08:14,540
Because I'm not a gamer and his role is to get out of their way

675
01:08:15,220 --> 01:08:19,820
So basically like he didn't want to play it and then have comments and then you know

676
01:08:19,820 --> 01:08:23,980
Maybe he says something someone hears something and then something's actioned because of it because he's just like

677
01:08:25,140 --> 01:08:31,300
I'm business. Yeah, this is not me. I'm gonna do business. So you're saying yeah make games. It's like all right, dude

678
01:08:31,340 --> 01:08:38,420
I don't know man. I get yeah, very privileged if you're gonna be the CEO of a gaming company and you're not a gamer

679
01:08:38,580 --> 01:08:43,700
That's probably the way to approach it. I like that to be honest. I respect it. Yeah, I respect it

680
01:08:43,700 --> 01:08:45,700
I respect it because when you have like

681
01:08:47,140 --> 01:08:53,940
And like okay, I mean our very own CEO Mr. Teran Tong will occasionally like

682
01:08:54,460 --> 01:08:57,820
Pitch into me with like content ideas, but he's always like

683
01:08:58,820 --> 01:09:07,580
Or just don't I fully recognize that this is like not my world and you've been doing this for 20 years and I've been a fly on the wall

684
01:09:08,740 --> 01:09:12,060
Watching you do it on the content side of things for you know two years

685
01:09:13,300 --> 01:09:22,140
You know, yeah, whatever And to his credit occasionally the idea is a really good and the dynamic for us is a little different

686
01:09:22,140 --> 01:09:26,540
So I can't really like feel that pressure, right? Right? He's my boss, but I'm also his boss

687
01:09:26,540 --> 01:09:29,000
Yeah, I'm my own grandpa, you know like that

688
01:09:31,540 --> 01:09:37,140
But I Appreciate and respect when people can be a leader of a company

689
01:09:37,380 --> 01:09:44,860
But also recognize that they are not an expert in what all the people at that company do yeah

690
01:09:45,620 --> 01:09:53,740
Probably a very small percentage of them realistically dude. Oh man. The bigger we get the more I noticed that yeah is like

691
01:09:54,420 --> 01:09:59,580
I'll I'll be like hey, what are you working on and someone's like working on something. I'm like cool

692
01:09:59,780 --> 01:10:02,260
even within my teams like what I'm often looking for is a

693
01:10:03,220 --> 01:10:05,820
strong and well-reasoned argument not a

694
01:10:07,180 --> 01:10:11,540
Thing that I necessarily premeditated because a lot of times it's like I have no idea

695
01:10:11,780 --> 01:10:17,020
But based on what you're saying is it like pretty obvious that you've done your research and this like makes sense. Yeah, okay

696
01:10:18,220 --> 01:10:24,180
Go for it. Yeah Like with the camera ops will be like hey, what do you think of this angle?

697
01:10:24,860 --> 01:10:29,000
Because I know that if I say you know do this angle

698
01:10:29,820 --> 01:10:33,740
I'm gonna get cooked. Yeah, cuz they know the angle is better than I know the angle

699
01:10:34,500 --> 01:10:41,740
They're looking at the viewfinder But sometimes it is reasonable to ask cuz you know maybe they've been rushing or whatever and they just didn't really think about it

700
01:10:41,740 --> 01:10:48,260
Yeah, maybe they were setting up all the gear while I've been kind of standing looking around or or maybe I have an idea for

701
01:10:48,260 --> 01:10:52,300
How I want it to flow into the next shot or you know, whatever and it's got to be a collaborative process

702
01:10:52,820 --> 01:10:58,180
But you gotta let experts cook. Yeah, there's just no other way around it

703
01:10:59,220 --> 01:11:02,180
What the heck are we supposed to be talking about?

704
01:11:06,620 --> 01:11:11,380
Do you think okay, you got it you got it

705
01:11:12,380 --> 01:11:19,620
Real talk, okay. Yeah, okay one of one of my big things right is I I have people around me that

706
01:11:20,460 --> 01:11:26,660
Help me help keep me accountable, you know and help me not just you know lash out emotionally sometimes

707
01:11:26,980 --> 01:11:28,980
I do it anyway

708
01:11:30,460 --> 01:11:38,780
Nice but Yeah, we've been taking some flak for making a video about a golden 5090 at a time when

709
01:11:39,780 --> 01:11:44,180
Other people are Holding NVIDIA accountable

710
01:11:45,420 --> 01:11:49,660
Yeah, as if we're not as if we didn't talk about this a month ago

711
01:11:50,420 --> 01:11:56,300
As if we don't have a long history. I actually I actually compile the list of times

712
01:11:57,540 --> 01:12:05,700
LTT held NVIDIA accountable goes back almost ten years and includes basically every major thing project green light

713
01:12:06,700 --> 01:12:14,500
the GeForce partner program when they turned off overclocking on their laptops and big blah blah blah there's all kinds of things

714
01:12:16,340 --> 01:12:23,180
Would it be an emotional and unnecessary response and I'm talking to you guys as well, so probably me up Floatplane check

715
01:12:23,180 --> 01:12:30,220
Can you relax? Okay, would it be an unnecessary and emotional response for me to do a video basically going okay?

716
01:12:30,620 --> 01:12:35,780
Here's what NVIDIA is doing right now The title I have in mind is

717
01:12:39,460 --> 01:12:47,860
Why is LTT silent about NVIDIA's media manipulation despite not having been and then basically the video

718
01:12:48,340 --> 01:12:57,340
lays out The the many many not silent times, you know back when hardware unboxed was being bullied by NVIDIA and NVIDIA was

719
01:12:57,780 --> 01:13:03,220
Basically saying cover RTX more favorably or you will never see the card to you again

720
01:13:04,300 --> 01:13:11,580
you know Do I have to lay this out because a lot of people don't seem to have a clue I?

721
01:13:13,340 --> 01:13:16,700
Think you could but I think your tone matters a lot

722
01:13:17,860 --> 01:13:22,300
What if my tone was as deeply sarcastic as I have ever been in my life

723
01:13:23,300 --> 01:13:27,780
Yeah, I think that wouldn't be good. Okay. Let me pitch you. Let me pitch this. Let me pitch this

724
01:13:27,780 --> 01:13:32,780
Oh, you wrote it already. Let me pitch this. Okay. This is this is this is one of the

725
01:13:33,860 --> 01:13:35,860
This is just kind of how I think

726
01:13:37,100 --> 01:13:42,340
Yeah, okay, so I have some notes No, I have a couple notes, but I do have kind of a I do have kind of a concept for it

727
01:13:42,340 --> 01:13:45,260
But I think this is sometimes just how he thinks that I think is really fun

728
01:13:45,780 --> 01:13:51,820
Okay, so of course The title would be like why I'd stayed silent about NVIDIA and we've got like you know

729
01:13:51,820 --> 01:13:56,620
Oh, sorry, just Nardella and full-plane chats have made it a full-plane exclusive

730
01:13:57,140 --> 01:14:02,620
Just so you know and just so some of the audience knows if he did that it would be

731
01:14:03,100 --> 01:14:05,580
Blood in the water like you've never seen

732
01:14:09,620 --> 01:14:14,460
Anyway, sorry keep going. Yeah, just in case there's any questions about that. Yeah

733
01:14:16,060 --> 01:14:20,980
So, yeah, I'm thinking like with the duct tape across the mouth or something like that nice good. Yeah, okay

734
01:14:21,020 --> 01:14:26,180
So get that clickbait in there. So so I made a wave of outrage over NVIDIA's

735
01:14:26,300 --> 01:14:31,860
Manipulative and course of behavior toward their partners in the media many of you've been asking why have I been silent?

736
01:14:31,860 --> 01:14:34,980
Yeah, to answer that question I guess I'll need to

737
01:14:34,980 --> 01:14:41,180
Investigate NVIDIA's history of behavior toward their partners in the media and since I've been such an obedient little submissive for NVIDIA

738
01:14:41,180 --> 01:14:46,500
I'll have to learn about it. Okay, so yeah cut that bit from the coverage of other media outlets. Oh, this one looks good

739
01:14:46,620 --> 01:14:49,800
Yeah, yeah, all right cut that bit. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on

740
01:14:51,340 --> 01:14:59,300
So I'm imagining we photoshop the channel icon and the channel I click on is actually LTT

741
01:14:59,300 --> 01:15:06,780
Ah, okay, and then we do and did you ever watch the spooky fish episode of South Park way back in the day?

742
01:15:06,780 --> 01:15:11,180
It's from like season two or something basically there's a parallel universe and

743
01:15:13,300 --> 01:15:22,940
Here hold on let me see if I can Let me see if I can find this. Ah, yes, here we go the evil versions of all the boys look exactly the same

744
01:15:23,060 --> 01:15:26,460
But just have a goatee a crappy. Yeah a crappy beard

745
01:15:27,900 --> 01:15:33,300
So I'm imagining as I learn about all the things NVIDIA has done over the years

746
01:15:33,420 --> 01:15:37,300
We actually motion-track like a crappy goatee onto

747
01:15:37,940 --> 01:15:44,120
fake LTT onto the LTT videos that I'm like learning about it from and then we do a big reveal at the end

748
01:15:44,360 --> 01:15:49,240
Where we like take off the goatee and we're like wow it was us all along. It was us all along

749
01:15:50,080 --> 01:15:54,440
Yeah, I'm not gonna get away with this am I I think it's really funny though. I think you can do it

750
01:15:54,440 --> 01:15:57,680
I think you got to drop some of the the

751
01:15:57,680 --> 01:15:59,680
wounded puppy stuff

752
01:16:00,960 --> 01:16:02,960
Are you? I

753
01:16:04,000 --> 01:16:07,480
Just want the b-roll shot of me being an obedient little submissive

754
01:16:09,480 --> 01:16:13,880
Yeah, okay, maybe but I think now he wants it. It's funny. You're gross

755
01:16:15,120 --> 01:16:22,800
It's the the problem is you got to keep it You got to keep it in the funny realm instead of the like why is everyone mean to me realm? Oh

756
01:16:23,720 --> 01:16:26,920
It's the why is everyone mean to me realm is just it's not gonna go

757
01:16:26,920 --> 01:16:31,040
Okay, I didn't give you the next line. So when I click the channel, I'm like whoa that guy and I could be brothers

758
01:16:31,200 --> 01:16:37,360
Let's see what he has to say about the most recent fiasco about limiting review samples and drivers for the RTX 5060 series

759
01:16:37,360 --> 01:16:40,760
And then I kind of watch a short clip from it. I'm outraged

760
01:16:41,120 --> 01:16:43,120
I

761
01:16:44,680 --> 01:16:51,720
Anyway, so I was kind of thinking it'll be it'll be very tongue-in-cheek, or maybe we just won't do it, but I

762
01:16:52,160 --> 01:16:58,480
Don't think it's a bad thing necessarily because I and we talked about this recently. We're like, I think sometimes

763
01:16:59,240 --> 01:17:02,160
in moments like this it makes sense to just kind of have a

764
01:17:05,120 --> 01:17:09,360
A open discussion with the audience and I think a problem that we've been having

765
01:17:09,360 --> 01:17:13,760
I've been talking about this literally for years at this point a really big problem that this

766
01:17:14,640 --> 01:17:21,160
Neesh has been having for a while and it's weird because for many many years

767
01:17:21,160 --> 01:17:26,800
This was not a problem at all, but this has become a major problem over the last few years

768
01:17:27,560 --> 01:17:36,600
is That if if any reviewer is not saying the exact same thing as every single other reviewer. Yeah, they are

769
01:17:37,000 --> 01:17:42,080
Condemned and it's everything. It's not just us. I'm not just saying us

770
01:17:42,080 --> 01:17:45,440
I have seen this with other creators as well. Yeah, that sucks

771
01:17:45,440 --> 01:17:52,320
That is super bad as an audience you should not want that that is that is horrible for you and it's horrible for the

772
01:17:52,640 --> 01:17:58,720
For the creator. So once the video transitions into the more serious side coffee. Could actually yes, that would be the plan

773
01:18:00,000 --> 01:18:03,880
You know, I've got this kind of line when I'm when I say anything positive about NVIDIA

774
01:18:03,920 --> 01:18:12,320
I'm able to shill when I say anything negative I'm able to hate her in this polarized world a person like me who calls out good and calls out bad ends up outcast by

775
01:18:12,520 --> 01:18:17,080
Both camps is that really what we want? I don't think

776
01:18:17,080 --> 01:18:22,360
They're making about you again. I think you should be talking about the end. I'm literally responding

777
01:18:22,800 --> 01:18:28,140
To people being like, how can you say anything that is different from what other people are saying right now?

778
01:18:28,620 --> 01:18:35,540
How can I talk about this card, which actually I don't even that's the really bizarre one is a lot of the like

779
01:18:35,540 --> 01:18:37,540
Why are you covering and video positively?

780
01:18:39,180 --> 01:18:47,500
Comments are on the video of this card where I kid you not the first line of it is mocking how the 5090 is overpriced

781
01:18:48,540 --> 01:18:51,580
Literally the very first line. You don't even have to like

782
01:18:53,660 --> 01:18:58,100
You don't even have to make it past the midway point in the video, which I know that most people don't

783
01:18:58,220 --> 01:19:02,980
Yeah, you have to make it to the first line. Yeah to know that we're taking the piss

784
01:19:02,980 --> 01:19:06,180
I'm interested because we we filmed a short. That's not out yet

785
01:19:07,020 --> 01:19:09,700
at an internet cafe here in Taiwan and

786
01:19:10,940 --> 01:19:12,940
The short opens with like

787
01:19:13,940 --> 01:19:21,020
What the heck is a Because this was the original reason why we went to this place nine years ago

788
01:19:22,020 --> 01:19:28,780
What is an NVIDIA certified land center and it ends with effectively they just spent a bunch of money

789
01:19:29,380 --> 01:19:34,140
nice But I am rather certain that people are gonna be like, oh

790
01:19:35,300 --> 01:19:38,420
How are you covering this right now and we're literally like yeah

791
01:19:38,420 --> 01:19:42,380
They just put their badge on the store if you like buy enough GPUs and that's it

792
01:19:42,380 --> 01:19:45,420
We like a dope. We don't praise NVIDIA's involvement at all

793
01:19:45,420 --> 01:19:48,220
We're like this is a really cool land center and what is the NVIDIA part?

794
01:19:49,180 --> 01:19:54,060
They bought a lot of GPUs. So then how do you get that message across without?

795
01:19:54,860 --> 01:19:58,820
You know to your point being a wounded puppy or talking about yourself

796
01:19:59,380 --> 01:20:02,780
because at the end of the day the problem is

797
01:20:05,700 --> 01:20:12,420
About like, you know, here's what we're trying to do and here's why it matters and here's why you should probably care and why just

798
01:20:13,420 --> 01:20:20,380
Being in camp for this company or camp against this company is really really really really bad

799
01:20:20,900 --> 01:20:29,020
Because it is really really really bad. I wonder as well like a conversation that Lannis and I have been having is is just that like I

800
01:20:32,620 --> 01:20:34,620
Think we're looking down the barrel of

801
01:20:36,500 --> 01:20:46,480
PC hardware in general Being a niche that is it it's it's following like the the population trend in most countries

802
01:20:47,500 --> 01:20:57,140
It's getting older There's not as many new entrants. I was having a conversation with some creators here, which is like yeah, there aren't as many

803
01:20:58,060 --> 01:21:00,420
There aren't that many like younger

804
01:21:01,060 --> 01:21:03,580
PC hardware creators showing up at these events

805
01:21:04,540 --> 01:21:09,580
Interesting like I was sitting around at a dinner that was like an open invite to basically any

806
01:21:09,900 --> 01:21:14,580
PC hardware creators here and most people had gray in their beards like

807
01:21:15,220 --> 01:21:17,820
Right. Yeah, I was like hmm

808
01:21:18,420 --> 01:21:26,380
This is interesting It doesn't necessarily bode well for like the future of this niche and one of the things that doesn't bode well for the future of

809
01:21:26,380 --> 01:21:32,140
Any niche unless it's a niche that's based around social interaction and this is not one

810
01:21:32,180 --> 01:21:34,180
This is a niche that is based around

811
01:21:35,660 --> 01:21:37,860
Ideally objective product evaluation is

812
01:21:38,780 --> 01:21:45,540
drama and chaos and It's it's a problem because when if you think about if it's a video game

813
01:21:45,540 --> 01:21:50,660
Let's go completely outside of this niche if it's a video game and you're a little bit interested in the video game

814
01:21:50,660 --> 01:21:57,820
a little outside and you go on to the Subreddit for that. Oh god, why did you do that on fire? Yeah, don't do that

815
01:21:57,980 --> 01:22:04,300
No, are you more or less interested in that game now less if anything it's less

816
01:22:06,260 --> 01:22:08,260
Like we're not

817
01:22:09,740 --> 01:22:15,940
This isn't inviting here's my problem though, and this is this is what I keep running into is

818
01:22:18,380 --> 01:22:27,940
Every time I tell myself hey I Want to be a voice of positivity, you know, I want to I want to be excited about things

819
01:22:31,500 --> 01:22:33,500
Something like terrible happens

820
01:22:34,860 --> 01:22:36,860
Like it is it is legitimately

821
01:22:37,860 --> 01:22:41,420
not cool and very anti-consumer and

822
01:22:42,260 --> 01:22:47,020
I I blame all of the big players literally

823
01:22:47,860 --> 01:22:51,420
All of them AMD Intel NVIDIA your key guys

824
01:22:51,420 --> 01:22:57,340
I blame all of them for the fact that naming schemes are a cluster

825
01:22:57,820 --> 01:23:04,260
They are in my opinion and this so I'm making it very clear. This is allegedly

826
01:23:04,780 --> 01:23:08,660
They are intentionally misleading. Oh, yeah, they

827
01:23:09,460 --> 01:23:15,020
intentionally obfuscate product information every launch to make it easier to sell

828
01:23:15,540 --> 01:23:17,860
Older generation hardware. Yeah, I

829
01:23:18,860 --> 01:23:24,740
Understand why they do it because if you can just not just not necessarily just older generation hardware

830
01:23:24,740 --> 01:23:28,780
But but lower-end cheaper something less expensive

831
01:23:29,660 --> 01:23:34,620
and So how am I supposed to stay positive?

832
01:23:36,060 --> 01:23:40,940
Yeah, like you don't I don't and that's the other thing you can't be positive all the time like my whole oh

833
01:23:41,180 --> 01:23:44,060
If everything's on fire all the time, it's not very inviting community

834
01:23:44,700 --> 01:23:49,900
Yeah, I I'm gonna stand behind that statement, but you also just can't

835
01:23:50,500 --> 01:23:54,700
leave these companies doing horrible things alone

836
01:23:54,980 --> 01:23:59,540
We're reviewers we need to point it out, but but so then back to okay

837
01:23:59,540 --> 01:24:05,060
How do I not be how do I not address it when I make a video that isn't even like positive?

838
01:24:05,620 --> 01:24:12,740
It's just about a thing. Yeah, and I'm not negative enough or I'm not on the right negative bandwagon

839
01:24:12,740 --> 01:24:19,020
I'm sitting here going like Y'all exhausted. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, like I

840
01:24:19,580 --> 01:24:21,940
and and you know what it's

841
01:24:22,620 --> 01:24:28,820
It's a good comment, right? Like Linus. You should just not care about the feedback at all and just like do your thing

842
01:24:28,820 --> 01:24:32,300
Just you know make whatever whatever video you want, but

843
01:24:33,140 --> 01:24:40,340
It's it's it's not it's not that easy. It's not it's not that simple. I wish that I

844
01:24:41,180 --> 01:24:46,380
Wish that I didn't have to care at all, you know what people what people think of the videos

845
01:24:47,460 --> 01:24:50,700
You know if you if you're just like yeah, Linus just like be you and you know

846
01:24:50,700 --> 01:24:57,500
We'll check out your your your contents like but I've always been someone who obsessively reads the comments and tries to

847
01:24:58,060 --> 01:25:00,660
tries to cater to the audience that is

848
01:25:01,540 --> 01:25:07,860
Literally you go to any YouTube conference. You go to any creator meetup. Hey, what's one of the keys to success?

849
01:25:08,460 --> 01:25:12,100
Know your audience. Yeah interact with your audience understand

850
01:25:12,740 --> 01:25:22,140
Understand your audience and if the audience, you know wants to be up on this like, you know scummy behavior or this like

851
01:25:23,260 --> 01:25:26,300
Incredibly, you know boring product or you know, whatever

852
01:25:26,700 --> 01:25:30,860
I'm stuck between a rock and a hard place because if I make a video about a boring product

853
01:25:30,860 --> 01:25:37,020
That's inherently a boring video and if I don't make a video about this boring product, then I'm silent and

854
01:25:37,860 --> 01:25:39,860
It's like, yo

855
01:25:42,300 --> 01:25:48,700
You know I I don't and so you have this like conflicting feedback none of which is right because I promise you that

856
01:25:49,260 --> 01:25:54,420
You know people are not gonna tune into that. They don't it doesn't resonate with them

857
01:25:55,580 --> 01:25:58,780
boredom doesn't sell yeah, and I

858
01:26:01,500 --> 01:26:07,840
Wish I had I wish I had solutions. I wish I had solutions here, but yeah, like my whole comment on the like

859
01:26:07,860 --> 01:26:14,580
Oh, the NVIDIA LAN Center certification is just buying some GPUs. That's at the very end of the short

860
01:26:15,620 --> 01:26:18,780
Because it's really boring. We didn't know the answer before we showed up

861
01:26:21,140 --> 01:26:26,500
When we figured out the answer we were like, oh, I mean I guess we'll answer the question considering the question

862
01:26:26,500 --> 01:26:30,500
It's at the beginning of the short, but it is boring. So we'll put it at the very end

863
01:26:30,660 --> 01:26:35,340
By the way, I've lost the comment now, but I'm gonna have to give this to you

864
01:26:36,340 --> 01:26:39,540
This is my geek card. I don't get to carry it anymore

865
01:26:40,380 --> 01:26:46,420
Because no, I did not realize that the Beards on the South Park episode were a Star Trek reference. Oh

866
01:26:49,740 --> 01:26:53,340
I Do I have to like throw this away? I didn't either

867
01:26:53,940 --> 01:26:58,340
What I didn't either. Oh really? I don't think either of us get it get it out of here

868
01:26:58,340 --> 01:27:01,660
Yeah, well, that's my I mean, that's my room key actually, but you don't need to go back

869
01:27:02,140 --> 01:27:06,480
Yeah, but my stuff's in there too bad. Okay. Um, I

870
01:27:07,260 --> 01:27:10,260
Have and oh boy, this is gonna upset some people. Oh

871
01:27:11,660 --> 01:27:18,420
I Have never watched the entire original series me neither. I have seen bits and pieces me too

872
01:27:18,500 --> 01:27:23,900
You know, I've seen enough, you know bits and pieces that I like very much get the vibe

873
01:27:24,140 --> 01:27:28,900
I've seen full episodes even but I have not watched the original series

874
01:27:29,620 --> 01:27:36,140
I've seen like the one good movie with the whales or whatever, but I was a child. I was a literal child

875
01:27:36,140 --> 01:27:39,700
I don't remember anything other than I think there were whales in it

876
01:27:40,620 --> 01:27:43,980
Yeah, oh, oh, no heresy. Oh, no

877
01:27:44,900 --> 01:27:48,860
We're just talking about how much it shouldn't be mad all the time. Then you just piss them off. Okay. I'll watch it

878
01:27:48,860 --> 01:27:54,580
I'll watch it. I'll watch it. I've actually been I've been watching like old old media. I finally watched

879
01:27:55,340 --> 01:28:02,900
Mad Max 2 So I have now seen Mad Max 2. Okay. I have finally watched Highlander. Okay. There was another

880
01:28:03,540 --> 01:28:08,740
And I'm gonna pronounce this in a very specific way. There was another Linus that

881
01:28:10,180 --> 01:28:13,600
For reasons that maybe will become clear in the future

882
01:28:15,220 --> 01:28:19,420
Prompted me to watch those movies. So I have now watched them

883
01:28:19,420 --> 01:28:23,340
I still have not watched the third Mad Max, which is the last

884
01:28:24,100 --> 01:28:27,860
Part of my assignment and then hopefully once that happens

885
01:28:28,260 --> 01:28:32,780
I will be able to talk about why someone named Linus

886
01:28:34,420 --> 01:28:39,180
Felt that I needed to be aware of the cultural significance of these movies

887
01:28:39,180 --> 01:28:43,460
I'm excited about that. There will be something. That's all I'll say so that could be

888
01:28:44,100 --> 01:28:48,500
Maybe something that could I don't know who knows. I mean, you never know, right?

889
01:28:48,500 --> 01:28:55,460
The world's world's crazy. World's crazy crazy bad sometimes crazy good sometimes. Let's have some fun

890
01:28:55,460 --> 01:29:00,620
You know, yeah, hey by the way, you guys are probably wondering like what's up with this thing this tower

891
01:29:00,740 --> 01:29:03,940
That's been what is up between us the whole time. So a

892
01:29:06,340 --> 01:29:12,260
Lot of people I think didn't manage to pick up on this even though I literally held up an invoice for it

893
01:29:12,260 --> 01:29:16,900
But I bought this. No. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, this was not a review sample or a

894
01:29:17,660 --> 01:29:21,300
I guess that was like a major part of that video or whatever. Yeah. Oh, dude

895
01:29:21,300 --> 01:29:24,460
You've been talking about like how to get it home and everything. It's amazing

896
01:29:24,460 --> 01:29:29,180
It's amazing what people can manage to not retain in the first like 30 seconds of the video

897
01:29:29,180 --> 01:29:31,660
I try not to let it bother me, but as you can tell I ain't working

898
01:29:32,300 --> 01:29:34,800
anyway, so I bought this because

899
01:29:35,500 --> 01:29:41,160
and again, a lot of people probably don't don't know this but I skipped 40 series in

900
01:29:42,420 --> 01:29:48,740
effectively Silent protests because no one really seemed to notice or care. What I skipped 40 series

901
01:29:48,740 --> 01:29:51,300
What because of NVIDIA's crappy pricing?

902
01:29:52,100 --> 01:29:56,460
But I don't think so you're an NVIDIA shell. Thank you. Thank you

903
01:29:56,980 --> 01:30:00,140
So you probably just said that I'm ready for an upgrade and I was like

904
01:30:00,580 --> 01:30:07,420
I'm sure you had 40 90s in every system. Hey if I can if I can get content out of it, then

905
01:30:07,700 --> 01:30:11,300
Hey, if I can buy like the the golden

906
01:30:11,780 --> 01:30:17,300
150 90 and then I can also get some content out of it, then yeah, you know what screw it

907
01:30:17,420 --> 01:30:21,780
Let's do the bougiest build so I could get like a series of videos out of it

908
01:30:21,780 --> 01:30:27,300
And you know that'll that'll help to absorb some of the ridiculous cost. Do you have any idea how much this thing costs?

909
01:30:28,140 --> 01:30:31,260
Did you say like eight grand? So there's a range

910
01:30:31,980 --> 01:30:41,260
There's a range online. I Found out during the handoff that our per our procurement team was supposed to have been given a discount code

911
01:30:41,300 --> 01:30:44,260
That was supposed to make it closer to the lower end of the range

912
01:30:46,180 --> 01:30:50,460
And they just we didn't get it nice. So I paid about

913
01:30:51,020 --> 01:30:56,540
8,000 US dollars for this GPU sick. Have you seen it in person? No

914
01:30:59,180 --> 01:31:01,180
It's not worth it

915
01:31:03,380 --> 01:31:08,780
And adding insult to injury the video didn't get a lot of views. Yeah, so I didn't

916
01:31:11,300 --> 01:31:18,700
But but but but the plan the plan is still to is still to you know, do other content with it

917
01:31:18,700 --> 01:31:20,700
So hopefully that'll help

918
01:31:21,940 --> 01:31:26,180
My plan has been disrupted a little bit, okay

919
01:31:27,540 --> 01:31:29,540
Because James had a really good idea

920
01:31:30,940 --> 01:31:35,520
For instead of me doing like a golden build or something like that which

921
01:31:35,860 --> 01:31:40,700
Realistically I was gonna water cool anyway. So like what's the point of a heat sink with gold on it?

922
01:31:41,540 --> 01:31:46,020
But I kind of thought that would be funny in like a completely twisted eat the rich way

923
01:31:46,020 --> 01:31:51,060
Is if I buy a golden GPU literally take all the gold off of it and then put on a water block

924
01:31:51,060 --> 01:31:54,540
And then I don't know maybe I'll have to gold plate the water block myself or something. Yeah

925
01:31:54,540 --> 01:31:57,220
Anyway, I just I thought that'd be funny

926
01:31:59,180 --> 01:32:05,340
That's edgy I'm gonna leave that out. We're good. No, I'd like to hear it. Let's say you could like hang it off the front of the case

927
01:32:05,860 --> 01:32:07,860
I

928
01:32:09,500 --> 01:32:18,860
Yeah, wear it sure Not the way I meant that but yeah for sure James had a better idea. Okay. What if we take it to the tech mall?

929
01:32:22,860 --> 01:32:25,360
Like have that guy or someone

930
01:32:26,980 --> 01:32:31,500
So I don't want to okay, you know what sure I'm gonna I'm gonna tease the premise I

931
01:32:32,140 --> 01:32:38,900
Went back to the tech mall golden GPU in hand and I said, okay, I have this is empty. I

932
01:32:39,660 --> 01:32:42,260
Have the Sultan of GPUs

933
01:32:43,620 --> 01:32:47,460
Who can build me the best throne for it? Whoa? And

934
01:32:48,660 --> 01:32:51,580
We got is it a competition the quotation

935
01:32:52,260 --> 01:32:58,940
Slash Concept and design part is a competition. Okay fair and we ultimately chose one builder

936
01:32:58,980 --> 01:33:03,620
Okay to build the ultimate throne. I haven't seen it yet. Oh

937
01:33:04,980 --> 01:33:07,500
It's in there right now. It's in there right now. Dang

938
01:33:08,740 --> 01:33:10,940
So nice. So theoretically

939
01:33:11,900 --> 01:33:17,740
This is my new gaming PC In here. I haven't seen it yet. So we'll have that video coming

940
01:33:19,220 --> 01:33:28,540
I Recently became aware at the time of picking up the system of a challenge that may change the concept somewhat

941
01:33:29,780 --> 01:33:31,780
But I'm gonna save that for the video

942
01:33:34,780 --> 01:33:41,340
I might not get to keep my golden GPU is all I is all I'll say about that so guys stay tuned

943
01:33:41,340 --> 01:33:45,340
This is gonna be this is gonna be pretty fun. I I think that

944
01:33:45,900 --> 01:33:52,140
If the concept art is anything like the finished system, this is gonna be one of the coolest systems

945
01:33:52,140 --> 01:33:57,220
We have ever shown on the channel, and I hope I'm not hyping this too much. They must have had a ton of time

946
01:33:57,940 --> 01:34:01,060
Ah The the builders

947
01:34:01,140 --> 01:34:06,620
Messaged me in the middle of the night saying hey, we're still up. We're pulling an all-nighter working on this system

948
01:34:06,620 --> 01:34:14,820
So they went hard. All right, they went they went pretty cray-cray. I'm pretty excited. It's gonna be it's it's gonna be pretty cool. Um, I

949
01:34:18,700 --> 01:34:22,140
Hope that we're allowed to just like do cool things

950
01:34:22,820 --> 01:34:26,700
No, yeah, I rested. Yeah put in jail. Yeah

951
01:34:27,780 --> 01:34:34,180
Yeah, I think that's I think one of my biggest pushes is like we can and should

952
01:34:35,540 --> 01:34:40,620
Stand up to bad practices from from companies and we have

953
01:34:41,380 --> 01:34:47,540
And other creators should as well. Yep, but I don't think that should mean that we have to

954
01:34:48,860 --> 01:34:51,740
Stop making this a fun niche to be in

955
01:34:52,140 --> 01:34:56,580
Instead of a niche that just screams

956
01:34:56,580 --> 01:35:05,100
All of the time. Yeah And I think that's important to remember because if we do become a niche that just screams all of the time

957
01:35:05,580 --> 01:35:08,340
We are just begging for

958
01:35:09,220 --> 01:35:11,960
Our death to be accelerated. That's it

959
01:35:12,460 --> 01:35:20,060
And I like building gaming PCs. Yeah. Yeah, I think it's fun and cool like I think we all started doing this for fun

960
01:35:20,340 --> 01:35:25,180
Yeah, and now we're just angry screaming redditors and that's like not cool

961
01:35:25,460 --> 01:35:32,060
Yeah, yeah, and we should be angry and scream sometimes like I am trying to I gotta try to keep this measured

962
01:35:32,060 --> 01:35:38,620
So I'm not trying to say we shouldn't do that. Yeah, like and each creator should find their own way to stand up against

963
01:35:40,060 --> 01:35:44,980
Really negative crappy business practices from these companies

964
01:35:45,580 --> 01:35:52,900
And I never go full reddit though. Yeah. Yeah, there's there's a difference agreed half those. Yeah. All right

965
01:35:53,140 --> 01:35:55,140
What are we supposed to be doing? I?

966
01:35:56,980 --> 01:36:02,580
Don't know probably sponsors or one of our 47 announcements. Yeah, let's do a sponsors

967
01:36:03,860 --> 01:36:11,180
We'll do we'll do sponsors. Okay. Yeah. Wow. We have not done all of our topics yet. No the show is brought to you today by thermal take

968
01:36:11,780 --> 01:36:19,260
It's not a hot take that this immersion cooled PC that Luke and Sammy checked out is pretty badass

969
01:36:19,780 --> 01:36:23,540
But sorry, it's not really meant to hit the market quite yet

970
01:36:23,940 --> 01:36:30,340
But what is coming soon our thermal takes minecube aio coolers and their project edge CPU fans

971
01:36:30,580 --> 01:36:38,260
We went to take a look this week during Computex and some pretty neat stuff. They're patented minecube coolers have four. Yes, my friends

972
01:36:38,460 --> 01:36:43,580
four 720 by 720 4-inch LCD screens all

973
01:36:44,420 --> 01:36:47,460
Able to show unique visuals or real-time PC info

974
01:36:47,860 --> 01:36:54,020
The goal for thermal take here was to make it easy to customize and control what you see with their brand new software

975
01:36:54,020 --> 01:36:58,300
Which comes with an AI tool that helps generate an entire story to play out across all the screens

976
01:36:59,100 --> 01:37:07,340
Good Lord They also showed off their project edge fans which also have LCD screens on them that are linkable showing real-time information

977
01:37:07,900 --> 01:37:15,820
pictures GIFs and More plus with a magnetic connection Daisy changing them together and creating a cool seamless design is a breeze

978
01:37:16,100 --> 01:37:23,540
They also showed off some new colors for their popular TR 100 mini itx case now available in a future dusk and gravel sand

979
01:37:25,060 --> 01:37:33,180
Do you put it on your lawn? Sorry, sorry And they even added two brand new form factors to the line the micro ATX TR 200 and the ATX TR 100

980
01:37:33,260 --> 01:37:39,620
Both come with a front-loaded PSU design and support for a six-inch LCD display and these guys really like their displays

981
01:37:39,780 --> 01:37:45,060
Who can blame them though screens? They're kind of cool. Everything is set to come out sometime this year

982
01:37:45,060 --> 01:37:51,620
So head over to thermal take comm and keep an eye out for when they're available Thanks again to thermal take for being the sole sponsor of this week's special

983
01:37:51,780 --> 01:37:56,500
Computex 2025 edition of the WAN Show or as we call it the Taiwan show

984
01:37:57,580 --> 01:38:07,260
Haha No, nothing. Wow. Not even thanks Andy. Maybe the final fantasy one. Please don't please don't that won't be necessary

985
01:38:07,980 --> 01:38:15,180
Okay, what do you want to talk about? Wait, that's it. We just have one sponsor. That's it. Nice. Do we want to do some of the announcements?

986
01:38:15,180 --> 01:38:18,180
We can do well, let's do whatever there's so many of them

987
01:38:18,500 --> 01:38:23,180
Why don't you get through a couple of announcements and then we'll just try and go through all of these topics because there's a couple

988
01:38:23,180 --> 01:38:29,900
announcements and LTT Store first Dan you're gonna have to click links and show things I guess. Are you are you on it? He's on it

989
01:38:30,340 --> 01:38:34,820
He's on it like a bonnet Like a like a hood

990
01:38:34,820 --> 01:38:42,380
Like a hoodie. Ah That's pretty good. We're launching a run of our original hoodie blanks for purchase for the very first time

991
01:38:43,060 --> 01:38:48,380
Custom made with 100% cotton for comfort and a French terry interior to keep things

992
01:38:48,740 --> 01:38:53,660
breathable because we couldn't find a hoodie out there that felt like how we think a hoodie should feel

993
01:38:54,180 --> 01:39:02,020
Available now in black and brick a darker red. You can get yours today at LMG. GG slash

994
01:39:02,260 --> 01:39:05,220
blank hoodie. We are also announcing

995
01:39:06,300 --> 01:39:11,660
pre-tariff pricing returning to LTT Store US for commuter backpacks and

996
01:39:12,780 --> 01:39:20,620
magnetic cable management This weekend on the US site global customers you are already getting pre-tariff pricing after conversion

997
01:39:20,620 --> 01:39:28,900
So technically this is also for you So commuter bags and magnetic cable management now is a great time to pick those up if you are in the US

998
01:39:29,220 --> 01:39:33,220
We've got this Yeah, we've got that all on LTT Store

999
01:39:33,860 --> 01:39:37,100
Com if you guys want to use one of those items to send a merch message

1000
01:39:37,100 --> 01:39:41,380
Hey merch messages are the way to interact with the show. We don't do twitch bits or super chats

1001
01:39:41,740 --> 01:39:47,500
We like that if you throw your money at the screen you actually get something in return when you send a merch message

1002
01:39:47,500 --> 01:39:55,300
So all you got to do is go to LTT Store com add something to your cart And you'll see a box when we're live that will give you a space to type up a merch message

1003
01:39:55,300 --> 01:39:59,540
It'll go to producer Dan who I guess is gonna have to turn on his own camera

1004
01:40:00,220 --> 01:40:08,140
There it is nice Doesn't work as well when I can't turn him off while he's still waving. I know I know it's terrible. Yeah

1005
01:40:08,740 --> 01:40:11,580
You're gonna do it to yourself kind of breaks the vibe anyway

1006
01:40:11,900 --> 01:40:17,700
So it'll go to producer Dan and who will reply to it or send it to someone to help answer your question

1007
01:40:17,700 --> 01:40:21,260
Or we'll even curate it for me and Luke

1008
01:40:21,260 --> 01:40:27,060
So Dan do you want to hit us with a couple merch messages to show the folks how it works? I'm not entirely sure I have any tonight

1009
01:40:28,100 --> 01:40:34,940
none Really this is what happens when I don't mention the merch for the first hour of the show

1010
01:40:34,940 --> 01:40:37,260
All right, why don't we jump into another topic then shall we?

1011
01:40:38,420 --> 01:40:43,540
Yeah, I jump into another topic something might have failed on the back end. Should we talk about something really cool?

1012
01:40:44,140 --> 01:40:50,580
Yeah, let's talk about German courts getting it right. Yeah, this is awesome. Do you want to read a topic for a change? Sure?

1013
01:40:52,540 --> 01:40:57,900
I gotta find it first give me one sec Our merch messages broken. Is that what you've been tapety-tapping at?

1014
01:40:58,380 --> 01:41:04,100
No, I've been tapety-tapping in a lot of other things. I got it. We're back on now. All good. Oh

1015
01:41:05,020 --> 01:41:07,020
Everything okay? No

1016
01:41:09,100 --> 01:41:19,820
Ah District Court in Cologne has ordered Netflix to reimburse a customer 200 euros for failing to get the customer's consent for subscription price increases

1017
01:41:20,100 --> 01:41:22,900
Netflix increased its prices by over 50 percent

1018
01:41:23,500 --> 01:41:31,740
between December 2017 and May of 2022 the price increases themselves were not condemned by the court rather the lack of informed consent

1019
01:41:31,820 --> 01:41:35,860
That's the particular issue a ruling from the Berlin Regional Court in

1020
01:41:36,060 --> 01:41:43,660
2021 found a provision in Netflix's user agreement that granted the company the right to increase prices at will and without the subscribers

1021
01:41:43,660 --> 01:41:46,880
agreement was unfair and thus invalid a

1022
01:41:47,620 --> 01:41:52,860
Higher yeah, everything you sign is not technically binding if it's just BS, which is

1023
01:41:54,020 --> 01:42:04,180
Weird but probably good Because nobody reads that stuff anyways a higher court upheld this ruling two years later while Netflix has presented German users with a dialogue

1024
01:42:05,180 --> 01:42:11,260
Dialogue box I guess to agree to more recent price increases. It appears that this may not actually track

1025
01:42:12,260 --> 01:42:18,060
That they need to actually assume that the user agreed if they don't unsubscribe from the service

1026
01:42:18,700 --> 01:42:25,900
whoa This means that if you didn't use Netflix for a couple months or your kid clicked through the dialogue on your account

1027
01:42:25,900 --> 01:42:29,540
You never saw it. You'll be billed at the increased rate without consent. Yeah

1028
01:42:30,220 --> 01:42:36,580
Interesting and that's very common just to be clear not necessarily the kid thing. I don't know about that. It might be but the

1029
01:42:38,020 --> 01:42:44,620
The the people just having accounts that they don't use is like huge the kid thing is definitely a thing. I promise not surprised

1030
01:42:46,020 --> 01:42:52,180
The case clears away for other German users to follow complaints and the consumer rights magazine don't even try

1031
01:42:53,180 --> 01:43:00,360
Stiff tongue Warren test you tried. Yeah, what should that okay? Well the entire comment section is just that now

1032
01:43:00,380 --> 01:43:04,700
That's better than it other Luke. Are you not even German before last name like la fregniere?

1033
01:43:04,700 --> 01:43:10,220
I mean we have a new video box on screen. We might as well take some flak off. Yeah, that's yeah, you know

1034
01:43:13,420 --> 01:43:17,940
And I'm actually like just as German as I am French life is strange

1035
01:43:18,660 --> 01:43:28,340
The Anyways in a separate case the Hanover administrative court has confirmed a judgment stating that hold on. Hold on. Let's talk about this first one first

1036
01:43:28,340 --> 01:43:36,620
Okay This is sick Yeah, it's great. This is awesome. Yeah. Yeah, it why do you just get to unilaterally?

1037
01:43:36,620 --> 01:43:43,700
I do understand legally why you are allowed to unilaterally increase the price of a subscription service because technically

1038
01:43:44,260 --> 01:43:53,700
Every month is a new contract So you can just I don't know. Yeah, it's a new contract now. And so if you stay subscribed you agree to the new contract. No

1039
01:43:55,620 --> 01:44:04,660
That shouldn't be how things work and if you if you want if you want to negotiate a new contract in my opinion

1040
01:44:05,300 --> 01:44:13,300
You should have to cancel Everyone's contract and then sign them up again. You should have to go through the whole sign-up process again

1041
01:44:13,300 --> 01:44:17,820
I guarantee you if that was how companies will stop doing that immediately companies would immediately

1042
01:44:18,620 --> 01:44:21,900
Not do this ever again. They would not raise prices

1043
01:44:21,900 --> 01:44:26,060
They would set a price that is actually sustainable and then they would not

1044
01:44:26,700 --> 01:44:30,860
Touch it for the love of God not touch it and that doesn't mean that they can't increase pricing

1045
01:44:30,860 --> 01:44:38,140
They absolutely can but it would be on Future sign-ups. So if you get grandfathered in at a low rate if you get a low rate

1046
01:44:38,140 --> 01:44:41,980
You get a promotional rate or you get whatever then that's it like you got it

1047
01:44:41,980 --> 01:44:46,620
That was the deal that you signed up for if they changed the deal after then that literally

1048
01:44:47,380 --> 01:44:52,460
Isn't the deal you signed up for quite literally this is

1049
01:44:53,700 --> 01:44:58,260
So validating because I feel like I've talked about this so many times I

1050
01:44:59,540 --> 01:45:07,980
Freaking love it like there's um There's immense lock-in from payment processors, but it's not even because it's that hard to

1051
01:45:08,500 --> 01:45:11,940
On a technical level swap it and swap out payment processors

1052
01:45:11,940 --> 01:45:17,820
the problem is that all your legal payment agreements are in that other payment processor and

1053
01:45:20,020 --> 01:45:26,580
Like stripe it talks about how they can handle migrations and stuff, but it's really not that clean and

1054
01:45:27,140 --> 01:45:29,660
You start actually talking about it. It's a lot more complicated

1055
01:45:30,540 --> 01:45:34,380
And it's it's easier in some scenarios and blah blah blah, but

1056
01:45:35,060 --> 01:45:39,700
There's things that different payment processors will do to try to increase this level of lock-in

1057
01:45:40,300 --> 01:45:46,460
and Nobody really changes the payment processors pretty much ever if they have subscriptions

1058
01:45:46,580 --> 01:45:52,540
Because the chance that these people won't come back not just because they might have forgotten that they have the subscription because

1059
01:45:53,100 --> 01:45:59,540
You're re-asking them fresh if it's worth it fresh and and just re-asking them if it's worth it

1060
01:45:59,660 --> 01:46:02,020
You will lose a ton of people a ton. I

1061
01:46:04,380 --> 01:46:12,980
Love it by the way, we did get a detail wrong in that VPN story last week apparently sure when they said they didn't acquire the existing like

1062
01:46:13,500 --> 01:46:21,020
Customers they actually didn't acquire the monthly subscribers either. Oh, okay, so I'm a lot more okay with it

1063
01:46:21,340 --> 01:46:29,260
So they had a bunch of free people Who were obfuscated in the P&L by the paying customers and when they bought it?

1064
01:46:29,860 --> 01:46:33,900
They didn't get the paying customers and weren't told about the free people and

1065
01:46:35,140 --> 01:46:39,700
The free deals were available through like third-party websites and stuff

1066
01:46:40,540 --> 01:46:46,620
So we're like not obviously a parent get them at all. They should have had no users, right?

1067
01:46:46,900 --> 01:46:51,900
So so they had anything more than zero traffic. They should have known things had

1068
01:46:54,180 --> 01:46:56,180
I

1069
01:46:57,820 --> 01:47:06,180
Looks like it's them. Goodbye. No, they just they just quit. That's that's so cool. This is great. I love it

1070
01:47:08,580 --> 01:47:10,580
How does this happen

1071
01:47:13,980 --> 01:47:15,980
Well sure

1072
01:47:19,500 --> 01:47:22,660
I guess we're at technical difficulties now, let me see if I can get him back

1073
01:47:24,300 --> 01:47:26,460
Oh good old Taiwan

1074
01:47:32,660 --> 01:47:36,820
How are you guys doing? Oh

1075
01:47:50,420 --> 01:47:57,860
Hi, who dropped was it me or you you I think okay, are we

1076
01:47:58,660 --> 01:48:02,860
Are we gonna come back? Yeah, there you are because if it was if it was us that dropped

1077
01:48:02,860 --> 01:48:07,700
You would have kept streaming, right? I thought I kept streaming and just lost you guys

1078
01:48:09,020 --> 01:48:11,820
Okay, cool. Oh, no. All right. Have fun

1079
01:48:13,460 --> 01:48:19,740
Our We back our back. We're back. Okay, cool. That's pretty neat. Hey guys sup

1080
01:48:20,460 --> 01:48:26,260
Cool. So apparently the last thing they heard was zero users. So long story short

1081
01:48:27,260 --> 01:48:31,940
Yeah, basically by by cutting those people off who in their mind

1082
01:48:31,940 --> 01:48:36,020
They were doing a favor to by allowing them to continue to use this service

1083
01:48:36,020 --> 01:48:40,060
They hadn't even acquired users for for free. They were like being bros. I

1084
01:48:43,300 --> 01:48:47,300
Don't like how any of this went down the whole thing is like sucky

1085
01:48:47,300 --> 01:48:50,660
But that is more bad on the company that sold. Yes

1086
01:48:51,300 --> 01:48:54,820
versus the company that actually acquired the VPN and I

1087
01:48:55,300 --> 01:49:02,380
It adds some nuance to the situation that I felt we should definitely follow. Oh, yeah, that's fair. Yeah

1088
01:49:03,180 --> 01:49:09,180
All right, cool This is unrelated to the topic, but if we want to correct things from last week, I have something to correct as well

1089
01:49:09,180 --> 01:49:12,900
Oh, what now I had said this is important. Okay

1090
01:49:13,940 --> 01:49:18,780
Like I got I got a Come true with the audience here come true. Okay

1091
01:49:19,460 --> 01:49:21,460
Is that not a phrase? I'm gonna say

1092
01:49:22,460 --> 01:49:24,460
So, why don't you correct something close to that

1093
01:49:28,300 --> 01:49:33,340
Be real maybe that's it come clean come clean come clean

1094
01:49:33,900 --> 01:49:39,580
Yeah, I gotta come clean with the audience here. That's not how that works the cleanup is after

1095
01:49:46,180 --> 01:49:49,420
I lied last week did you yep?

1096
01:49:50,020 --> 01:49:52,860
Not intentionally, but I was wrong

1097
01:49:53,740 --> 01:49:58,260
Okay, I know I was making fun Dan. He just doesn't know thing. Yeah

1098
01:49:59,140 --> 01:50:02,280
I said that I had a character in file fancy six. Oh

1099
01:50:02,980 --> 01:50:08,460
And I only thought I did you thought you had a character because I've done some you don't have any characters

1100
01:50:08,820 --> 01:50:17,460
Are you high? The whole game is like that you have tons of characters. No, and I don't even remember their name because I renamed them Tara

1101
01:50:17,580 --> 01:50:22,100
There we go Tara Brannford. Yeah, sure you Imperial Magitech

1102
01:50:22,460 --> 01:50:27,180
When do they talk about last names? How do you know their last name? Why would I not?

1103
01:50:28,020 --> 01:50:33,380
I don't think I've ever seen their last name. Why do you think it's called in the whole game Garo Castle?

1104
01:50:34,420 --> 01:50:39,980
Okay, yeah, sure fair. So what do you think Edgar's last name is smart guy Brannford's castle?

1105
01:50:39,980 --> 01:50:44,180
I just when did they talk about her last name pathetic?

1106
01:50:44,540 --> 01:50:50,220
Okay, well, I renamed some characters while I was playing literally don't yeah, I have to like

1107
01:50:50,780 --> 01:50:56,500
Know the cannon. Okay, sure. It's like my favorite game of all time. So I just like no things like you okay

1108
01:50:56,500 --> 01:51:00,860
Yeah, sure. Um, so I had renamed some characters. So when he asked me if I had

1109
01:51:01,820 --> 01:51:08,460
Tara Tara, I thought I did but I had a different character. Okay. I did not have a character. Did you even have I?

1110
01:51:10,100 --> 01:51:12,580
Don't sets or something

1111
01:51:15,180 --> 01:51:21,500
How could you possibly I didn't know the names how could you possibly think the old

1112
01:51:22,180 --> 01:51:28,140
Bushido guy with a mustache. Oh is named Tara. That's not the old Bushido guy

1113
01:51:29,580 --> 01:51:32,060
You're wrong about your own game the gambler. Sorry

1114
01:51:35,740 --> 01:51:43,420
I only know that because that's one of the characters I didn't rename How could you possibly think the white haired gambler dude is named Tara?

1115
01:51:43,420 --> 01:51:46,740
Honestly, I never ever had them in my party

1116
01:51:47,460 --> 01:51:50,420
Ever and I forgot anything about them at all

1117
01:51:51,180 --> 01:51:54,120
And I had just gotten them iconic

1118
01:51:54,620 --> 01:51:59,060
Oppressing and everything and like that. What do you mean? You just got him. No, you've got him in the world of balance

1119
01:51:59,060 --> 01:52:02,660
Oh, no, no, I in the world of ruin. I had just gotten them

1120
01:52:02,660 --> 01:52:08,460
Oh, and I never had them in my party ever in world. I can't believe I just brain farted

1121
01:52:09,100 --> 01:52:19,820
Look before the show started, okay, I had to go back to my room to get my headphones. I literally

1122
01:52:20,420 --> 01:52:27,460
Went up instead of down and then literally didn't realize it and tried my keycard on someone else's room before I went

1123
01:52:27,460 --> 01:52:33,380
Oh my god I'm on completely the wrong floor just to give you some idea of where my brain is

1124
01:52:33,500 --> 01:52:37,500
Is it is that but yeah, I have Tara now, okay?

1125
01:52:39,380 --> 01:52:43,940
Yeah, okay, actually White I don't know

1126
01:52:45,460 --> 01:52:51,660
How can you play how can you look at characters for this long and not know what they look like do you even

1127
01:52:51,660 --> 01:52:56,740
Are you even playing the game? Are you just having an AI do it? I think it should count pink or something

1128
01:52:58,100 --> 01:53:03,220
If he doesn't know what the main when you have her go trance, it's definitely like white and pink

1129
01:53:09,460 --> 01:53:15,740
Okay, anyway, I know the blitzes, but I don't know the character's names or what they look like

1130
01:53:17,820 --> 01:53:22,940
There you go, okay, I can like do the blitz inputs by memorization

1131
01:53:22,940 --> 01:53:27,500
I love that I literally lent him a SNES controller to play this game

1132
01:53:27,500 --> 01:53:30,540
So he could have the authentic experience and an adapter

1133
01:53:30,540 --> 01:53:37,380
I went and he went and he took his hand he went I know the blitzes and he used the arrow keys. I played with the SNES controller at home a little bit

1134
01:53:37,380 --> 01:53:40,820
I didn't want to take it traveling. So I don't want to break it. It doesn't matter. No, that's cheap

1135
01:53:42,540 --> 01:53:47,900
Okay, you can also just not carry it. That's fine. You can just play with your keyboard like a pleb

1136
01:53:49,380 --> 01:53:53,540
Truthfully the first time I actually beat the game because I didn't beat it when I owned it as a kid

1137
01:53:53,540 --> 01:54:00,500
I was a kid and I was too dumb And then I lost my super Nintendo when I moved between my parents houses. I didn't have it anymore

1138
01:54:01,220 --> 01:54:04,940
And so the first time I actually beat the game was on Zed SNES on a computer

1139
01:54:05,540 --> 01:54:13,620
100% used to control a keyboard for that It's not that bad. Oh, it's actually way easier to input the blitzes on a keyboard. I could see that

1140
01:54:15,620 --> 01:54:20,940
For whatever reason like the most powerful ones are incredibly easy though. That's just like going to circle

1141
01:54:20,940 --> 01:54:27,100
That's a remaster thing. Oh, and they're they're much harder on the controller. Okay. Yeah, like I said, they're they're really easy

1142
01:54:28,660 --> 01:54:32,660
But one of them is literally just one way around the circle the other one's the other way around the circle

1143
01:54:32,660 --> 01:54:38,700
Yeah, but if you if you get pressing it Or no, it's not the other way around the circle. It's just the continuation of the circle

1144
01:54:38,700 --> 01:54:43,460
If you get pressing it wrong like if you accidentally start at an angle instead

1145
01:54:43,460 --> 01:54:48,580
It's it's a lot easier to screw up on like a d-pad that literally doesn't have diagonals, right?

1146
01:54:48,580 --> 01:54:53,620
Right because it's just across d-pad. So you have to like you have to nail it

1147
01:54:54,140 --> 01:55:01,460
And you will screw it up for I have I have been annihilated because I like kind of screwed up a blitz and put the remaster really

1148
01:55:02,660 --> 01:55:10,260
screws up a lot of the balance of The original game like the the sword techs or whatever Bushido abilities

1149
01:55:10,780 --> 01:55:15,740
They were called sword tech. That wasn't a brain fart on the original the Bushido abilities

1150
01:55:15,740 --> 01:55:22,620
You can just use anyone you want now. It's like you had to wait before so if you were playing in the active battle mode

1151
01:55:22,620 --> 01:55:30,020
You'd be like getting hit while you waited for him to like queue up quadra slice. Oh, yeah, so like I never really run him anyways

1152
01:55:30,020 --> 01:55:33,940
I he sucks the the weird thing for me right now is I have way

1153
01:55:35,060 --> 01:55:39,900
Harder of a time with like the random encounters that I do with bosses. I

1154
01:55:41,260 --> 01:55:43,820
Wipe bosses like no problem

1155
01:55:44,980 --> 01:55:49,700
Often like two three turns in done took very little damage if nothing

1156
01:55:50,700 --> 01:55:56,260
And then I'll just die to random encounters by getting like one shot out of nowhere

1157
01:55:57,260 --> 01:56:00,660
Like first move random encounter characters dead

1158
01:56:03,620 --> 01:56:10,420
What and this is like happened multiple times have you considered that you may be a bad gamer I have I

1159
01:56:11,140 --> 01:56:16,820
Have never lost to a boss in the game so far. Okay. I have party wiped multiple times

1160
01:56:18,140 --> 01:56:24,100
Just like random encounter trash, which is so annoying because it's less likely that I saved recently

1161
01:56:27,100 --> 01:56:32,500
All right, why don't we talk about the other cool thing in a separate case?

1162
01:56:32,500 --> 01:56:38,180
The Hanover administrative court has confirmed a judgment stating that cookie banners must not

1163
01:56:38,460 --> 01:56:44,700
Be designed to encourage users to consent and that website operators must offer a clearly visible

1164
01:56:45,340 --> 01:56:52,980
Reject all button on the first level of cookie consent banners if the banner includes an accept all button

1165
01:56:52,980 --> 01:57:02,700
That's huge for me. That's cool The judgment came after lower sac sneeze data protection officer demanded a redesign of a media company's cookie banner because it didn't obtain effective

1166
01:57:02,700 --> 01:57:08,300
informed and voluntary consent before setting cookies and processing personal information the company disagreed and

1167
01:57:08,420 --> 01:57:13,100
Claimed that the data protection authority was not responsible for monitoring illegal provisions concerning cookies

1168
01:57:13,100 --> 01:57:18,540
The court found that rejecting cookies on the banner in question was much more complicated than accepting them and that the banner used misleading

1169
01:57:18,540 --> 01:57:24,700
wording such as optimal user experience and accept and close while the term consent was completely missing

1170
01:57:26,460 --> 01:57:28,460
That's super cool, that's just awesome

1171
01:57:29,620 --> 01:57:38,100
Cuz like sometimes Man, there are so many bad cookies. Sometimes there are cookies that do enhance website experiences would be

1172
01:57:38,660 --> 01:57:45,380
No, go ahead almost never do I care though and I just reject everything, but it's still but it's still

1173
01:57:46,180 --> 01:57:52,020
This is so I love it. Yeah, that's great. I hate that. It's only gonna be in Germany. Yeah, yeah

1174
01:57:52,020 --> 01:57:57,460
But hopefully, you know these types of things. Hopefully they bleed out over time. Yeah, I hope so. I mean

1175
01:57:58,700 --> 01:58:08,140
Apple is certainly doing Absolutely everything in their power to slow roll any of the the antitrust and regulatory stuff that's hit them over the last little bit

1176
01:58:08,140 --> 01:58:12,500
man Fortnite is back on the App Store and

1177
01:58:13,180 --> 01:58:16,300
It's pretty crazy our discussion question for this topic is

1178
01:58:16,980 --> 01:58:22,980
Is Apple the most childish corporation on the planet or does that award go to someone else because?

1179
01:58:23,580 --> 01:58:33,420
Wow, have they ever Engaged in some like peak level malicious compliance over this whole third-party payment processors on the App Store thing

1180
01:58:33,420 --> 01:58:36,540
It's almost like the only reason they ever cared about any of it

1181
01:58:36,860 --> 01:58:42,840
Was so that they wouldn't have to compete and they could take their enormous cut acting as the sole

1182
01:58:43,620 --> 01:58:48,180
Monopolistic payment processor on this platform. I feel like there's got to be worse ones

1183
01:58:48,180 --> 01:58:57,940
This is the one that's like most in our order. It's just hilarious Yeah, after Apple lost the court case regarding in-app third-party purchases Epic submitted for tonight for approval to the App Store

1184
01:58:58,780 --> 01:59:03,220
Apple This is so funny. This is so Apple too. Oh

1185
01:59:03,780 --> 01:59:09,820
Man Apple refused to either accept or decline the application leaving it in limbo

1186
01:59:10,420 --> 01:59:14,780
Because if they declined it well, then you know, they'd get in trouble, but like

1187
01:59:15,740 --> 01:59:21,500
Well, do we have to hear if they accept it? I mean we're like we're looking at it. I don't know

1188
01:59:23,180 --> 01:59:31,900
US district judge Yvonne Gonzalez Rogers who by the way is an absolute Chad from everything that I've seen about her seems like it wrote in an

1189
01:59:31,900 --> 01:59:36,740
Order that Apple has to accept or decline the application and this is a quote

1190
01:59:37,300 --> 01:59:42,060
Apple is fully capable of resolving this issue without further briefing or a hearing based

1191
01:59:42,540 --> 01:59:48,820
Apple has since accepted the application and fortnight is now back on the App Store huge

1192
01:59:49,860 --> 01:59:52,020
for real though actually like

1193
01:59:52,860 --> 02:00:00,780
Super okay, I feel like I always have to disclaim this right because not a fan of everything Tim Sweeney does all right

1194
02:00:01,780 --> 02:00:10,620
But this Genuinely benefits every all this was massive developer. Yeah for iOS. I'll also give them a show

1195
02:00:10,620 --> 02:00:15,020
I don't like fortnight. I think I've played it one time ever and did not enjoy it and never played it again

1196
02:00:15,020 --> 02:00:18,340
I mean in fairness fortnight changes a lot, so you might like it more now

1197
02:00:18,340 --> 02:00:23,220
I think they're doing probably like see you type stuff where you can make all kinds of new game modes and stuff

1198
02:00:23,220 --> 02:00:29,300
We have to look cool. Look the point is either way the point is be open-minded. Okay. Try anything twice

1199
02:00:31,780 --> 02:00:40,180
Um It's it's currently number one in adventure games on the App Store and already has over 20,000 ratings and has been up for like

1200
02:00:41,460 --> 02:00:47,500
Days so clearly doing pretty well. Yes, Jim Ash says. Yes, Sweeney is doing this for the future of games

1201
02:00:47,780 --> 02:00:52,820
Which is like his company's future, you know, I think a lot of it is like

1202
02:00:53,700 --> 02:01:01,380
Personal vendetta. We're just benefiting from it, which is great It's a huge win for everyone. Yeah, and realistically. He's one of the few

1203
02:01:02,060 --> 02:01:07,980
company leaders who has the money and not just the money, but the absolute

1204
02:01:08,420 --> 02:01:13,540
Iron balls to do this. Yeah. Yeah, because Apple is a vindictive

1205
02:01:14,140 --> 02:01:19,420
Company if you step out of line very NVIDIA ask they will never

1206
02:01:20,420 --> 02:01:30,660
Engage with you again to NVIDIA's credit They actually do let bygones be bygones eventually they they we were we were black-balled for two years over the hard-run box thing

1207
02:01:30,660 --> 02:01:35,300
Yeah, we'll see and we are officially on black-balled now. Ah, we could be black-balled again

1208
02:01:35,300 --> 02:01:40,840
But I'm really wondering how much of it was just like clear the field before 5,000 series comes out

1209
02:01:42,140 --> 02:01:47,820
And then who cares after no, I think it was more a specific person who was a skirt. Yeah. Yeah

1210
02:01:48,340 --> 02:01:51,540
That's that's we'll see how things go in the next like six months

1211
02:01:52,540 --> 02:01:57,380
I'm reserving judgment until Yeah

1212
02:01:58,580 --> 02:02:01,580
There's been some bad that I don't even think is

1213
02:02:02,220 --> 02:02:08,040
Not super public yet. It's not mine to release. Oh, yeah. Oh, no. Oh, yeah

1214
02:02:08,660 --> 02:02:10,660
Like real bad more

1215
02:02:14,100 --> 02:02:21,580
Okay, why don't I talk about something good while he types that up steam OS moves one step closer to a wider release with a new update

1216
02:02:21,700 --> 02:02:28,780
Valve has released steam OS 3.7 point 8 which comes with official support for third-party PC handhelds

1217
02:02:28,780 --> 02:02:34,700
This is so cool. So you could just go install it on your ally or your IA NEO or whatever

1218
02:02:35,300 --> 02:02:44,380
Along with a bevy of other upgrades This is the first version of the software to offer an official recovery image with explicit support for installation on devices with

1219
02:02:45,020 --> 02:02:50,700
AMD hardware, okay, so not just anything just yet and an NVMe drive although valve does

1220
02:02:51,140 --> 02:02:54,460
Specify that is targeted towards handheld devices and is not final

1221
02:02:54,460 --> 02:02:59,700
So you can basically install it on like whatever as long as you've got AMD hardware and an NVMe drive

1222
02:02:59,780 --> 02:03:04,540
There's also explicit installation instructions for the Legion Go and ROG ally

1223
02:03:04,540 --> 02:03:08,700
Is it the year of the Linux desktop actually though this time?

1224
02:03:09,220 --> 02:03:13,740
This is so cool other upgrades include new Mesa graphics drivers base

1225
02:03:14,260 --> 02:03:17,260
Bluetooth mic support and desktop mode still no gaming mode

1226
02:03:17,740 --> 02:03:23,100
Battery management tools and the ability to turn a steam deck turn on a steam deck via a Bluetooth controller

1227
02:03:23,180 --> 02:03:30,220
Which was previously only possible on the OLED So this is super cool if you have just like a steam machine in your living room

1228
02:03:30,220 --> 02:03:36,660
Remember when they used to call them steam machines? So if you just have one as like a like a living room console, you can just use your Bluetooth controller to be like

1229
02:03:36,660 --> 02:03:42,660
Boop turn my steam. Ah, I'm so excited. I'm so excited and I'm excited for competition

1230
02:03:42,780 --> 02:03:47,700
Look at the way Microsoft has allegedly Woken up and is like, you know

1231
02:03:48,180 --> 02:03:56,060
Allegedly partnering with ASUS on the Ally 2 and you know trying to make Windows a better like gaming platform like

1232
02:03:56,500 --> 02:04:03,980
What's going conversation? It's always good. Yeah. Hell. Yeah, literally competition is always better than not competition

1233
02:04:05,060 --> 02:04:12,060
I think if there's a time that competition was worse I guess if you have like a super fragmented market and then like

1234
02:04:13,500 --> 02:04:18,780
Okay, I think there's a there's probably a middle ground between businesses. There's a middle ground. No, no

1235
02:04:18,780 --> 02:04:24,620
I'm even thinking businesses. Okay, so so imagine a world. Okay, you don't want there to be one bank or

1236
02:04:25,180 --> 02:04:31,580
One insurance company because that's terrible because then there's no competition, but you also don't want there to be

1237
02:04:33,180 --> 02:04:40,580
10,000 banks and 10,000 insurance companies because those will be very small companies and those types of

1238
02:04:41,220 --> 02:04:50,740
institutions need Scale in order to absorb the sometimes one time large one-time losses that they can experience

1239
02:04:50,820 --> 02:04:54,740
There's a middle ground. I think there's some debate there on the bank side of things

1240
02:04:54,740 --> 02:05:00,020
No, dude when you have like a thousand tiny banks, it's much easier for there to be a bank run

1241
02:05:00,660 --> 02:05:06,580
Because it can be in like a very localized when you have Omega banks. Well, that's what that's no this is bad

1242
02:05:06,580 --> 02:05:09,300
They cause recessions due to bad practice. Yeah

1243
02:05:09,900 --> 02:05:14,460
I'm saying I'm saying that more is not always better

1244
02:05:14,660 --> 02:05:19,460
Sure, but you're not saying that infinite competition of infinite parties is good

1245
02:05:19,460 --> 02:05:23,140
You're saying that competition is always good. Is that what I said? I don't remember my exact wording

1246
02:05:23,140 --> 02:05:26,020
You said competition is always good. I said it's always better. Yeah

1247
02:05:26,340 --> 02:05:30,740
But that doesn't have to mean that there are thousands and thousands of players competing sure

1248
02:05:30,820 --> 02:05:33,860
I'm just saying there's a middle ground of like

1249
02:05:34,580 --> 02:05:42,260
Like like peak competition goodness That's all I'm saying. I think we do this as a company. I know I do this. So I'm not trying to exclude myself

1250
02:05:42,900 --> 02:05:48,260
I think sometimes we're like We get and this is why I say I don't know all the time. So I'm 100 on board with this

1251
02:05:48,500 --> 02:05:54,020
We're so worried about people just taking crap that we say and twisting it that we run around

1252
02:05:54,020 --> 02:05:57,860
It's so many circles that we end up losing the plot part way through

1253
02:05:58,100 --> 02:06:00,100
Oh

1254
02:06:02,020 --> 02:06:05,140
Man, we're just saying black and red is a cool color combination. That's all

1255
02:06:06,420 --> 02:06:12,660
That's all we we like it for gaming PCs who made their uniforms aren't they like still around hugo boss

1256
02:06:12,820 --> 02:06:16,980
Yeah, and super famous. I don't want to get that wrong. I don't want to get very fashionable

1257
02:06:17,940 --> 02:06:22,180
Uh Nazi uniforms. I think it was hugo boss

1258
02:06:23,540 --> 02:06:34,820
um Yes, hugo boss apologized for nazi past. Uh, yeah, okay. Okay. Yep. There you go. Yeah, so hugo hugo boss, by the way

1259
02:06:46,500 --> 02:06:48,980
Really, yeah, I saw it

1260
02:06:50,900 --> 02:06:53,700
Like there's no belief here. I saw it. He showed me

1261
02:06:55,700 --> 02:07:03,380
All right, he's gonna deal with it in his own way or whatever So how can they be actually that stupid? I think is the question. But this is my like

1262
02:07:04,100 --> 02:07:09,860
I don't know man. We'll see we'll see over the next while when I was digging up all the times that we've

1263
02:07:10,420 --> 02:07:15,060
criticized NVIDIA in the past I came across some stuff that I had forgotten about

1264
02:07:15,700 --> 02:07:21,620
um, and one of them was the an LMG clip where I

1265
02:07:22,500 --> 02:07:25,300
um, I basically came out and I was like

1266
02:07:26,500 --> 02:07:29,140
I no longer believe they are playing 4d chess

1267
02:07:30,500 --> 02:07:35,060
I believe they're idiots um

1268
02:07:38,260 --> 02:07:40,260
Past line is smart guy

1269
02:07:41,620 --> 02:07:44,340
I beard I saw that and uh, yeah

1270
02:07:45,220 --> 02:07:49,780
I saw that and genuinely like kind of laughed because it was just

1271
02:07:51,460 --> 02:07:54,820
So dumb Yeah, yeah, and it yeah

1272
02:07:55,620 --> 02:07:57,620
Yeah

1273
02:08:00,980 --> 02:08:07,700
And like the timing of it, it's terrible. Holy dude. Um, hey more good news though

1274
02:08:07,940 --> 02:08:14,900
Yeah, remember that nas company that I invested in. Yeah, remember. Yeah, remember how people were like

1275
02:08:16,020 --> 02:08:19,780
Hating on the launch and the comments were all like this is pointless

1276
02:08:19,860 --> 02:08:27,700
No one would ever buy this if you're excited about this you should feel bad Remember how they had a really really great launch and lots of people gave them a bunch of money

1277
02:08:28,260 --> 02:08:32,420
Want to hear one of the cool things that they are already doing with that money. Yeah

1278
02:08:33,780 --> 02:08:42,020
zfs any raid Sponsored by ash tech. So that's the the nas company that I made the small investment in

1279
02:08:42,420 --> 02:08:46,740
um This is so cool earlier this week, dude. I've

1280
02:08:47,300 --> 02:08:53,060
I have wanted to talk about this so hard because I have known for a while

1281
02:08:53,700 --> 02:08:58,820
Because they basically immediately when they're when their first couple days of sales

1282
02:08:59,460 --> 02:09:04,260
Were bonkers. They were like Oh my god, let's do something there's opportunity now

1283
02:09:04,420 --> 02:09:09,220
There's stuff that we had on the roadmap for like Like the future that we could just

1284
02:09:09,940 --> 02:09:13,940
Immediately start fixing because there's these projects that are just like

1285
02:09:14,660 --> 02:09:20,180
Super cool, but just not funded so people can't work on them and we could just we could just do this cool stuff, dude

1286
02:09:21,460 --> 02:09:27,620
Oh, I've wanted to talk about this basically since they're freak they freaking went out from cover

1287
02:09:27,700 --> 02:09:36,100
whatever whatever blue cover whatever it's called when like Um, the when the when like a startup stops being stealth unstealth mode, whatever there's a term for it

1288
02:09:36,100 --> 02:09:44,260
Doesn't matter. Yeah, the point is Earlier this week esh tech the creators of xos investment disclosure introduced to the world

1289
02:09:45,140 --> 02:09:49,940
zfs any raid developed by clara ink sponsored by esh tech

1290
02:09:50,500 --> 02:09:58,340
zfs any raid will introduce two new pool layouts any raid mirror and any raid z1

1291
02:09:58,980 --> 02:10:06,180
Any raid mirror will be available first and will ensure that all data will be written to two different discs in pools

1292
02:10:06,260 --> 02:10:08,900
Of more than two discs of differing sizes. So

1293
02:10:09,460 --> 02:10:16,100
Um, this is a little bit out of order, but the point is you can raid discs in zfs. So so

1294
02:10:17,140 --> 02:10:20,900
Raid z not like hardware raid like software at raid z like zfs

1295
02:10:21,140 --> 02:10:25,060
So you can you can create pools with differing discs

1296
02:10:25,220 --> 02:10:30,740
And you were always able to do that, but there would be a huge loss in total capacity

1297
02:10:31,060 --> 02:10:34,180
Uh, you would basically go lowest common denominator

1298
02:10:34,420 --> 02:10:40,820
So if I had a 10 terabyte drive and a two terabyte drive and I raid

1299
02:10:42,100 --> 02:10:49,380
Z one to them or whatever whatever I think technically raid z1 is not a mirror even though it like kind of operates like a mirror if you just have two drives

1300
02:10:49,620 --> 02:10:56,020
Don't worry about it. The point is if I used them, I would get a total of four terabytes of usable capacity out of my 12 terabytes

1301
02:10:56,340 --> 02:10:59,300
That's not a great experience. No, so

1302
02:11:00,500 --> 02:11:07,300
um Any raid z1 will take the same concept and and features as zfs raid z1

1303
02:11:07,380 --> 02:11:11,780
So where you can lose any one drive and it will add support for mixed drive sizes

1304
02:11:12,180 --> 02:11:16,740
Uh, this is so cool. So how much space can we gain? Here's some examples

1305
02:11:17,060 --> 02:11:24,180
Okay, we have a pool with a four terabyte drive a six terabyte drive and an eight terabyte drive

1306
02:11:24,500 --> 02:11:29,060
Okay, so we are this is some this is some mix and match here. All right

1307
02:11:29,540 --> 02:11:34,820
Okay, check this out. Oh, wait, I can't screen share Dan Dan. Can you show them the table?

1308
02:11:36,340 --> 02:11:41,220
on it So in a in mirror, so this is a traditional mirror

1309
02:11:41,940 --> 02:11:49,780
I can't see that any In a traditional mirror, uh, we would get 10 terabytes only out of our total

1310
02:11:50,020 --> 02:11:53,460
What is this 12 plus 8 20 out of our 24 terabytes?

1311
02:11:53,860 --> 02:11:58,500
That is that is an awful amount of storage to give up two parity

1312
02:11:59,140 --> 02:12:01,540
Okay, in new any raid mirror

1313
02:12:03,620 --> 02:12:06,740
We get 12 terabytes. Okay, that's not a lot more

1314
02:12:07,220 --> 02:12:10,660
But if you can see on our table that Dan maybe has on the thing

1315
02:12:10,740 --> 02:12:15,140
I can't tell you can see on our table that if we add a four terabyte drive

1316
02:12:15,460 --> 02:12:20,100
We actually get half of the capacity whereas with the old mirror. There would be no change

1317
02:12:20,820 --> 02:12:24,740
Okay, so A little bit exciting. Here's where things get really cool

1318
02:12:25,620 --> 02:12:31,940
In raid z1 versus any raid z1 our pool capacity goes from literally half

1319
02:12:32,260 --> 02:12:37,380
Okay, 12 terabytes to 16 terabytes out of our initial 24

1320
02:12:38,180 --> 02:12:42,580
And then if we add four terabytes we get two and a half terabytes instead of

1321
02:12:43,300 --> 02:12:46,340
Okay, actually that works out a little bit better on the other one. The point is more

1322
02:12:47,060 --> 02:12:51,940
The point is more when is it coming? Ashtex says they won't even say soon

1323
02:12:52,180 --> 02:12:58,740
But they will keep the community updated as the project progresses and hits key milestones. I am I am pretty

1324
02:12:59,540 --> 02:13:01,540
I am pretty excited

1325
02:13:04,420 --> 02:13:09,220
Getting more of your user space out of mishmash of drives is a very

1326
02:13:10,020 --> 02:13:15,620
consumer friendly feature that has pretty much no benefit whatsoever to enterprise customers

1327
02:13:15,700 --> 02:13:21,540
Who are just always using matching drives, which is why this has never been worked on and just like how a lot of people were like

1328
02:13:21,620 --> 02:13:27,700
Oh, like as a homelab enthusiast. This isn't necessarily something that I would want. Sure. Um, cool

1329
02:13:27,780 --> 02:13:33,940
This caters to not necessarily homelab enthusiast as well where it's like this is just what I've got

1330
02:13:34,500 --> 02:13:39,060
And I want to make something out of it. Yeah, so this is in my opinion. This is a very like

1331
02:13:41,140 --> 02:13:43,220
Informed thing for them to back early

1332
02:13:44,180 --> 02:13:51,620
Super I think it makes a lot of sense super cool. It's for people who are just you know building their first jellyfin server. Yeah, who are

1333
02:13:52,820 --> 02:13:58,420
Who are who are got some old desktops that yeah have been in the garage for a few years that has drives in it

1334
02:13:58,420 --> 02:14:02,980
Let me throw these in here and do what I can Super excited for this sick

1335
02:14:03,380 --> 02:14:10,180
And I'm super excited to see them Taking that initial money that they got from their from their like

1336
02:14:10,820 --> 02:14:15,060
alpha You know, hey, trust us. We're gonna do cool stuff with this

1337
02:14:15,940 --> 02:14:22,100
Uh, like launch and then actually doing cool stuff with it just because I'm starting to see this already

1338
02:14:22,180 --> 02:14:26,020
No, we are not saying that nothing else can do this No

1339
02:14:26,020 --> 02:14:30,900
but zfs This was not a feature of

1340
02:14:31,220 --> 02:14:37,060
Zfs and so that's what's really exciting is you get all the zfs goodness, but also makes a match

1341
02:14:37,620 --> 02:14:40,500
it's just awesome

1342
02:14:40,740 --> 02:14:47,300
Yes, I know drobo existed ages ago. That's not the point. The point is and there's yeah other ones

1343
02:14:47,860 --> 02:14:52,420
zfs one thing we have until your cutoff

1344
02:14:52,420 --> 02:14:54,420
That you defined 18 minutes

1345
02:14:55,620 --> 02:15:00,340
We have until your face I'm good. Whenever I'm already checked out of the hotel. Um

1346
02:15:01,220 --> 02:15:04,100
nerd Yeah

1347
02:15:04,580 --> 02:15:08,420
And I was on we can go a little longer. We'll go a little longer. All right. I will

1348
02:15:09,220 --> 02:15:13,380
We'll do our best. We'll do our best. We always do our best. Hey, do you want to do want to go through the

1349
02:15:14,020 --> 02:15:16,580
The the computex roundup from someone on computex?

1350
02:15:17,620 --> 02:15:22,740
Apparently it's supposed to be wacky stuff So Dan, do you want to just like pop them up on screen and sync with us? We'll go through an order

1351
02:15:23,140 --> 02:15:25,700
Uh, yeah, depends how fast you are the doctor

1352
02:15:27,060 --> 02:15:29,060
All right, so I'm gonna click the first one

1353
02:15:31,460 --> 02:15:40,500
It's a pulsar x knock to our mouse Okay, a hundred percent. I saw this and just thought someone was trolling with like AI models. I didn't think this was real. Oh, yeah

1354
02:15:41,460 --> 02:15:44,180
What I saw it in person. It's real

1355
02:15:45,220 --> 02:15:52,100
Are they actually gonna like sell these? Or was it a part of real? Do you not understand sir that thermo take?

1356
02:15:52,740 --> 02:15:55,460
Oil case thing. Yeah, they've had a different

1357
02:15:56,100 --> 02:16:02,180
Dramatically different iteration of it every year. I don't know if that's ever gonna be for sale. It's I love going and seeing

1358
02:16:03,460 --> 02:16:06,340
What they're currently doing. I don't know if they're ever gonna sell it

1359
02:16:07,460 --> 02:16:12,260
We'll see It weighs about 20 grams more than the the regular

1360
02:16:12,980 --> 02:16:19,540
um I forget what model of most this is uh fine fine men or something like that. Hold on

1361
02:16:20,100 --> 02:16:24,500
Uh, yeah the fine men most um the the weight distribution

1362
02:16:25,700 --> 02:16:31,460
Felt a little different to me as well. It's kind of a fan in it, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so it's probably yeah

1363
02:16:31,460 --> 02:16:34,820
I feel a little bit. I definitely had some ideas for a v2 right now

1364
02:16:34,820 --> 02:16:39,540
The fan is just on and I was like, oh, it'd be kind of cool if it had like a moisture sensor

1365
02:16:40,180 --> 02:16:42,980
So that it only turns on if your hands are actually sweaty

1366
02:16:43,460 --> 02:16:49,700
um Because sometimes I'm a pretty warm boy, but other times, you know in the middle of the night in particular

1367
02:16:49,780 --> 02:16:53,460
I get to be a pretty cold boy. Yeah, pwm it basically, you know, there's like, um

1368
02:16:54,420 --> 02:16:57,860
The the single button that just cycles through memo sensitivities

1369
02:16:58,820 --> 02:17:01,220
Uh, it it may be controllable. I'm not sure actually look

1370
02:17:02,260 --> 02:17:08,660
It is controllable. Okay, so it's controllable, but it's always on. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, anyway, it's it's pretty cool

1371
02:17:08,820 --> 02:17:14,500
It's pretty light. It's like 60 something grams. It's not bad considering. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah pretty cool. Okay next up

1372
02:17:16,740 --> 02:17:18,740
3000 watt psus

1373
02:17:20,100 --> 02:17:25,620
More than one brand was showing off power supplies that were 3000 watts or more

1374
02:17:26,420 --> 02:17:30,100
Basically ai. All right, let's move on. Um

1375
02:17:32,100 --> 02:17:37,780
Inwin unveiled whatever this is. Yeah, they say this case is trophy inspired

1376
02:17:38,260 --> 02:17:45,700
It is over a meter tall and will support full-size 50 series GPU's. I should certainly hope so

1377
02:17:46,500 --> 02:17:55,060
Imagine it didn't Yep inwind back with another signature case. They do that. They do that and um

1378
02:17:56,020 --> 02:18:03,540
Apparently it weighs like 40 kilos or something like that. Nice. I don't I don't remember the number don't quote me on that but

1379
02:18:04,180 --> 02:18:08,500
Apparently it weighs a lot. I was talking to someone from my team who saw this in person

1380
02:18:08,820 --> 02:18:14,660
I didn't actually catch this Uh ShortCircuit the thermal rate frozen creator

1381
02:18:16,340 --> 02:18:21,460
Okay, okay, this actually looks extremely legit

1382
02:18:21,780 --> 02:18:28,820
Dude AMD Strix halo is I swear the coolest CPU

1383
02:18:29,940 --> 02:18:37,940
in the last I don't know 10 years. I can't I can't think of anything cooler in that time frame. Yeah, uh, I get apples

1384
02:18:38,020 --> 02:18:43,060
I'm silicon. It's really cool. But like on the pc space on the pc side, dude

1385
02:18:43,140 --> 02:18:47,380
I interpreted that way. It is so cool. Like that is a gaming pc in alex's hand

1386
02:18:48,100 --> 02:18:51,300
That is capable of like playing black myth mukong. Yeah

1387
02:18:52,420 --> 02:19:00,180
And the fact that thermal rate is getting into PCs. I mean, obviously they know the cooling for PCs. So like why not?

1388
02:19:01,940 --> 02:19:09,140
But this looks awesome Uh, oh, I don't know. I guess investment disclosure since framework also makes a strict halo thing

1389
02:19:09,620 --> 02:19:14,180
Oh, okay, but like that's sure. Okay. I don't know the right way to handle this because that seems dumb

1390
02:19:14,260 --> 02:19:19,220
Like why am I bringing up framework if all I'm saying is that something else looks awesome? No, it's good

1391
02:19:20,100 --> 02:19:26,100
But yeah, it's good for framework. But is that actually good for the audience? I'm not 100 sure probably not

1392
02:19:27,060 --> 02:19:29,060
But it's good for framework and it's the law

1393
02:19:30,500 --> 02:19:32,500
Got them

1394
02:19:34,100 --> 02:19:40,500
I love it. You legally have to advertise for framework. I think that's hilarious. I genuinely think that's very funny

1395
02:19:41,460 --> 02:19:45,860
I Like I

1396
02:19:45,860 --> 02:19:49,140
That is thoroughly entertaining to me. Um

1397
02:19:51,060 --> 02:19:54,980
In other news Hey

1398
02:19:54,980 --> 02:19:57,780
Do you need a monitor on your CPU cooler?

1399
02:19:58,500 --> 02:20:01,940
um Because there's a lot of them

1400
02:20:02,020 --> 02:20:08,740
Wait, is this real? The first one the first one's not real. I don't think so. It looks like a tablet. Uh for

1401
02:20:08,980 --> 02:20:13,780
Is this real This this the zygmatec one real

1402
02:20:14,100 --> 02:20:18,020
Do you know Dan? No idea

1403
02:20:18,100 --> 02:20:23,220
It slots into the zygmatec pump by sliding into what looks like an alien's shoulder socket

1404
02:20:23,860 --> 02:20:32,260
Okay, apparently it's real Uh, I did not catch this that it. Wow that boy. That is something. Um, that makes

1405
02:20:34,260 --> 02:20:37,540
Cooler masters and thermal takes look downright reasonable

1406
02:20:38,340 --> 02:20:43,940
um Lee and lee also has a curved display on their aio check this out

1407
02:20:45,940 --> 02:20:47,940
I don't

1408
02:20:49,380 --> 02:20:51,860
Hey sequel to the all-screen pc let's go

1409
02:20:52,580 --> 02:21:00,660
I guess I just I think the yeah, I don't know. I don't want to be I don't want to be too negative after spending a significant part of the show

1410
02:21:00,660 --> 02:21:05,780
Talking about how we need to be more positive, but stuff like that makes me feel like we're running out of ideas

1411
02:21:06,580 --> 02:21:14,100
I mean Maybe it's just not for me. Didn't all of computer x kind of feel like we're running out of ideas this year sure did

1412
02:21:14,500 --> 02:21:17,540
it was a this was

1413
02:21:17,540 --> 02:21:22,900
Noctis booth was super cool. Um, they're evaporative thermo siphon cooler

1414
02:21:24,340 --> 02:21:30,100
If it performs anywhere near like what they think they can achieve it will be a remarkable piece of kit

1415
02:21:30,740 --> 02:21:33,540
Um at a astronomical price probably

1416
02:21:33,940 --> 02:21:37,060
um So like there's some innovation there

1417
02:21:37,220 --> 02:21:39,220
um

1418
02:21:42,580 --> 02:21:44,980
Seasonic I liked

1419
02:21:46,820 --> 02:21:51,780
But like basically they're just like fixing someone else's problem, you know, so

1420
02:21:52,980 --> 02:21:59,860
It's hard to get excited about that Uh, oh this card no one can afford won't blow up anymore if I add this thing

1421
02:22:00,820 --> 02:22:03,380
That isn't out yet. Yeah, um cool

1422
02:22:04,340 --> 02:22:06,340
Aseus has an ergonomic keyboard

1423
02:22:07,780 --> 02:22:15,380
With a split in the middle Okay, that is not an ergonomic keyboard. That is just a keyboard that separates in the middle

1424
02:22:16,020 --> 02:22:21,140
But I think people do still categorize that as ergonomic really because of your shoulder rotation

1425
02:22:21,940 --> 02:22:27,460
Okay. Yeah, all right. So it's not ergonomic in all ways, but it's ergonomic for your shoulder rotation

1426
02:22:27,940 --> 02:22:32,100
Uh keyboards like this have existed for a long time. There was many of them at the show

1427
02:22:32,660 --> 02:22:40,900
I'll allow it Um, the silver stone retro case is legitimately cool. Okay. This was actually cool, but it's not a new idea. That's for sure

1428
02:22:41,860 --> 02:22:44,420
Specifically an old one. It looks sick though

1429
02:22:45,220 --> 02:22:49,060
Uh I genuinely really like it

1430
02:22:49,060 --> 02:22:56,900
Yeah, and unlike the first gen one it gave more thought to like cooling and putting modern hardware in it and stuff

1431
02:22:57,300 --> 02:23:04,420
Yeah, like you can you can really put a top-of-the-line gaming machine in this and build a sleeper without doing any of the actual like

1432
02:23:04,980 --> 02:23:11,460
Fabrication work of building a sleeper. This looks amazing. I wonder if this would be a theft deterrent

1433
02:23:12,420 --> 02:23:15,380
Like if you did up if you'd like did up your setup

1434
02:23:15,860 --> 02:23:23,220
like retro style and put like like if you like 3d printed like a bigger bezel on your monitor and like

1435
02:23:23,860 --> 02:23:30,580
Used uh used like like beige keycaps on like a sick mechanical keyboard and like like if you did it up

1436
02:23:31,380 --> 02:23:38,900
Would anybody steal it that? Okay, hold on a second. Hold on a second. Could there be a way for us to like

1437
02:23:39,620 --> 02:23:47,380
Social experiment this can you like? You know how like bait cars they can kind of like bait people into trying to steal them bait a whole computer

1438
02:23:47,540 --> 02:23:54,260
Bait a house Because someone would have to like go into it and then we have to like see if they take the computer

1439
02:23:56,100 --> 02:23:58,100
Work with mark rober

1440
02:23:59,860 --> 02:24:03,300
Like is that a thing there's got to be a youtube channel that like does this

1441
02:24:04,500 --> 02:24:07,540
Well mark rober did the porch pirate thing for years. Well, yeah

1442
02:24:09,540 --> 02:24:14,500
That's porch pirating though. I mean not every porch pirate is just gonna like weigh significantly more common

1443
02:24:15,540 --> 02:24:22,180
Yeah I have no idea. I think baiting someone to break into a house is probably

1444
02:24:23,700 --> 02:24:28,900
Pretty hard to predict gilmore d in Floatplane chat says whoever did that bait would be a master

1445
02:24:31,780 --> 02:24:35,540
All right on that note um

1446
02:24:35,540 --> 02:24:41,860
PC world scented thermal paste our question from the writer is would elijah eat this? Yeah

1447
02:24:42,100 --> 02:24:44,100
Uh

1448
02:24:46,980 --> 02:24:52,260
I feel like if you if you paid him like 20 bucks, I think you'd send it scented thermal paste

1449
02:24:53,220 --> 02:25:00,340
Wow We're definitely not out of ideas. We've we've started sending thermal paste. Yeah, I'm gonna

1450
02:25:01,780 --> 02:25:08,340
I'm gonna close that topic Um, cool. We've got an announcement. It's not it's not like

1451
02:25:08,900 --> 02:25:17,300
Innovation is impossible. This isn't new But like we saw a fractal go with those the the like wooden and that dramatically changed the case industry

1452
02:25:17,460 --> 02:25:21,460
Yeah, yeah that new anti like it's there. There is still the new anti case is interesting

1453
02:25:21,540 --> 02:25:28,420
Like there's there is stuff that people can do I meant it as wood like the fractal one. Hmm. Oh, I thought you meant the

1454
02:25:30,740 --> 02:25:36,820
Did they do a collab? Yeah, they did it has wood on it. Oh it does. Yeah, because like, you know trends. Yeah

1455
02:25:38,660 --> 02:25:43,380
This week on Floatplane We've got a ton of behind the scenes from our time at computex

1456
02:25:43,780 --> 02:25:49,060
And some more firetruck slash april fools behind the scenes as well with a new why is when late episode

1457
02:25:49,540 --> 02:25:52,980
We're supposed to watch the clip. So I guess I'll click on it now Dan

1458
02:25:53,540 --> 02:25:57,300
I can't really show a Floatplane clip because I have to log in and things like that

1459
02:25:57,380 --> 02:26:01,140
You can't show a Floatplane clip. You'd have to log in. Well, I think the question Dan

1460
02:26:01,940 --> 02:26:07,300
That is on all of our minds is why are you not logged into Floatplane? Yeah, don't you care?

1461
02:26:07,860 --> 02:26:14,580
Yeah, let me just download it And then add it to the streaming software so that I can show it for four seconds

1462
02:26:16,260 --> 02:26:21,860
Nice I I can't tell if his voice was coming through to them. But if it wasn't

1463
02:26:22,260 --> 02:26:25,540
Uh, it was loaded with passive aggression. Oh, no, wait

1464
02:26:26,180 --> 02:26:28,980
Floatplane's actually really fast. So that took like no time at all

1465
02:26:30,340 --> 02:26:35,300
Nice. Good job luke. All right. Here you go. Uh, what is it this button?

1466
02:26:38,260 --> 02:26:40,260
I do what I'm doing shut up

1467
02:26:48,180 --> 02:26:50,180
You guys zero

1468
02:26:56,740 --> 02:27:00,260
I love that it works. Yeah, that's so cool. That's pretty cool

1469
02:27:00,980 --> 02:27:04,580
We will also have secret shopper part four the finale

1470
02:27:04,980 --> 02:27:08,580
Which will be available next week up early on Floatplane. So go check it out

1471
02:27:08,980 --> 02:27:14,980
And then we have a final rog rig reboot reminder There are only a couple of days left to get your submissions in for rog rig reboot

1472
02:27:15,060 --> 02:27:22,500
We're picking three winners two from north america one international to be flown to our studio to build a pc with me on camera

1473
02:27:22,900 --> 02:27:26,820
You just got to submit a video showing us why you need a rig reboot

1474
02:27:27,140 --> 02:27:31,860
Whether your system's unable to keep up with your workflow or you can't run demanding games or it's just absolutely cooked

1475
02:27:32,020 --> 02:27:36,420
We need all the deets. Uh, this is a competition that rewards creativity and originality

1476
02:27:36,420 --> 02:27:41,140
So make sure your video is unique and not like a past submission. Yes, we will know

1477
02:27:41,620 --> 02:27:47,140
30 to 59 seconds show us your current setup tell us why we should pick you and again be creative submissions are open until 4 45

1478
02:27:47,460 --> 02:27:54,580
p.m Pacific time sunday may the 25th and Dan is going to post the submission link in all of the various chats

1479
02:27:55,540 --> 02:28:03,620
um Merch messages. Oh good lord. We haven't talked. Oh, we did talk about vo3. Okay. Good. Oh, yeah

1480
02:28:03,620 --> 02:28:06,180
We should do a couple of merch messages Dan want to hit us with that

1481
02:28:07,620 --> 02:28:13,860
Yeah, i'm sure thing. I've got a couple here DLL i'm a late joiner into the LTT cult about four to five years ago

1482
02:28:13,940 --> 02:28:19,220
So this may have been asked before but what are your favorite colors? Is Linus is pink or orange?

1483
02:28:20,180 --> 02:28:29,380
I Don't know if anybody has ever asked that before I have never had what are your colors merge message before a favorite colors?

1484
02:28:30,020 --> 02:28:35,140
uh I don't know. Maybe like uh like a cool

1485
02:28:36,580 --> 02:28:44,260
Like a cool bluey green It depends. There's certain things that I like some colors and there's certain things that I like other colors

1486
02:28:44,980 --> 02:28:49,300
I'm painting my bike pink Well

1487
02:28:49,300 --> 02:28:52,980
I'm trying to paint my bike pink attempting

1488
02:28:52,980 --> 02:28:56,980
Yeah, historically. I was always red red and black

1489
02:28:56,980 --> 02:29:03,140
These days I've been an enjoyer of browns and greens more really. Yeah brown is uh,

1490
02:29:03,620 --> 02:29:10,740
Unusual favorite color Like uh, it's certainly like a decor trend. Yeah everything tan and brown

1491
02:29:11,220 --> 02:29:18,820
But I don't know if any I don't know if even those people say yes My favorite color is tan and brown like I bought some uh some shorts recently that are brown

1492
02:29:19,460 --> 02:29:24,740
Right, I think they look nice. Yeah, but brown like again people buy brown shorts because they look inoffensive

1493
02:29:24,820 --> 02:29:29,140
I don't know if they buy brown shorts because I think minecraft block is a cool aesthetic

1494
02:29:32,420 --> 02:29:34,420
Yeah, yeah, okay

1495
02:29:37,460 --> 02:29:40,260
Slimming you know it's slimming

1496
02:29:41,220 --> 02:29:44,260
You gotta wear the brown pants and a green shirt

1497
02:29:45,460 --> 02:29:47,460
He's embrace it. Sure, Dan

1498
02:29:48,740 --> 02:29:53,060
Hey, taiwan show. What's the best non AI tech you spotted at Computex this year?

1499
02:29:53,540 --> 02:29:58,100
Uh ps Linus. Have you learned nothing from the last time you played with gold?

1500
02:29:59,460 --> 02:30:01,620
Also, I'm charged shipping on gift cards now

1501
02:30:03,220 --> 02:30:08,020
Hey, the last the last time I played with gold the controller appreciated a lot

1502
02:30:08,980 --> 02:30:12,340
That ended up being a tremendous investment pun intended

1503
02:30:13,300 --> 02:30:17,220
Get it. Yeah Nice I don't think I saw

1504
02:30:17,220 --> 02:30:21,940
Anything on the show floor that said it was AI enabled that I was excited about

1505
02:30:22,500 --> 02:30:26,660
At all one funny thing that I ran into though. Did you see the AI golf booth?

1506
02:30:27,380 --> 02:30:34,100
No There was a big AI golf booth. I haven't talked to any I've talked to a bunch of people that saw it

1507
02:30:34,180 --> 02:30:39,780
I haven't talked to a single person that saw it work Um, I saw them working on it for a pretty considerable amount of time

1508
02:30:39,780 --> 02:30:44,340
We were standing there with sammy trying to wait to see if they're going to get it working And then they they claimed they got it working

1509
02:30:44,340 --> 02:30:49,940
And they had someone go up to like test it and they they they took a really long time trying to get the golf ball

1510
02:30:49,940 --> 02:30:53,620
On the tee they finally got it. They whiffed hard

1511
02:30:54,500 --> 02:31:00,180
Took a really long time to set it up like they missed the screen They hit the the ball, but they missed the whole screen which is like

1512
02:31:01,140 --> 02:31:08,260
Almost everywhere the ball could have gone They took a really long time setting it up on the tee again

1513
02:31:09,220 --> 02:31:11,380
Hit it again whiffed the screen again

1514
02:31:12,420 --> 02:31:14,420
And then the system stopped working again

1515
02:31:16,420 --> 02:31:18,420
And we just left

1516
02:31:20,100 --> 02:31:25,140
That kind of encapsulated a lot of the AI enabled this that at least I saw at the show

1517
02:31:25,140 --> 02:31:31,620
But I was only on the show floor for one day. So maybe maybe you saw something I doubt it, but maybe

1518
02:31:34,020 --> 02:31:42,500
Um Boy my my favorite thing is probably um, I'm gonna go with the boiling cooler

1519
02:31:43,380 --> 02:31:51,940
I I like I like cool. I like cool cooling stuff. It was AI enabled. No, what that wasn't AI enabled was what they asked

1520
02:31:52,420 --> 02:31:58,500
Oh Yeah So I'm gonna go with I'm gonna go with the boiling cooler. That looks sick. Nice. Um

1521
02:31:59,380 --> 02:32:02,820
Hey Kind of related to AI

1522
02:32:02,900 --> 02:32:11,060
Signal is blocking Windows recall microsoft's AI enabled constant logging of everything that you do on your computer

1523
02:32:11,700 --> 02:32:17,460
Signal messenger is warning users that the privacy of their communications is being threatened by Windows recall

1524
02:32:17,940 --> 02:32:23,540
Um microsoft's AI tool that will screenshot index and store pretty much everything a user does every few seconds

1525
02:32:23,940 --> 02:32:26,900
They have updated signal for Windows to by default

1526
02:32:27,380 --> 02:32:30,580
Block the ability of Windows to screenshot the app

1527
02:32:31,060 --> 02:32:35,860
Signal's move reduces the possibility of recall indexing indexing private messages

1528
02:32:35,940 --> 02:32:40,660
But doesn't eliminate it because Users can change the setting within the desktop app

1529
02:32:40,740 --> 02:32:44,580
For example, if they want to make use of accessibility tools like screen readers

1530
02:32:45,300 --> 02:32:50,900
Signal officials note that microsoft has made many adjustments to recall in response to critical feedback over the last year

1531
02:32:51,140 --> 02:32:56,500
But recall still places any content displayed within privacy protected apps like signal at risk

1532
02:32:57,220 --> 02:33:01,300
We've actually got a video coming up about recall. Uh, we kind of

1533
02:33:01,860 --> 02:33:09,300
totally on purpose Have a laptop from back when recall was first announced that we

1534
02:33:09,860 --> 02:33:15,460
did the like hacks ring to make it work even though it wasn't an AI enough laptop and uh,

1535
02:33:15,860 --> 02:33:21,060
We left it disconnected completely from the internet as a time capsule of

1536
02:33:21,780 --> 02:33:25,940
Windows recall when it was first launched and we take that

1537
02:33:25,940 --> 02:33:29,540
Out of the mothballs and a brand new signal a signal excuse me

1538
02:33:29,940 --> 02:33:32,740
Windows recall laptop and show the differences in behavior

1539
02:33:33,220 --> 02:33:38,740
How they how they log how it's encrypted or not encrypted and interesting. It's a really cool video

1540
02:33:38,740 --> 02:33:43,700
Yeah, that's cool that we totally on purpose definitely kept that laptop disconnected from the internet for a year

1541
02:33:46,100 --> 02:33:50,020
Nice happy accidents. Happy accident. Yeah, no, we just like a lot of recipes are made

1542
02:33:50,180 --> 02:33:54,980
We were originally planning to make a video about recall and then for soft bailed on the launch

1543
02:33:55,540 --> 02:33:59,620
And so we were like, oh, okay. Well, we can't really make this video. So we just like they're not even releasing it

1544
02:33:59,700 --> 02:34:05,220
Yeah, so it was like written. Yeah, but we just like put everything away and so it ended up working out

1545
02:34:05,300 --> 02:34:11,140
So we'll we'll do the video now Our discussion question is is anyone excited about recall?

1546
02:34:12,020 --> 02:34:16,760
No Really incredibly draconian it teams

1547
02:34:19,540 --> 02:34:24,740
Cool, yeah, but they already have tools like that. So it's not even like microsoft's just reinventing the wheel

1548
02:34:25,940 --> 02:34:32,980
From that perspective Well, maybe they could save money on their tools that they have that already do that because you're right

1549
02:34:34,660 --> 02:34:38,420
Man full plane chat is hilarious any

1550
02:34:38,420 --> 02:34:41,540
Any excuse to mention that you use firefox

1551
02:34:41,940 --> 02:34:48,820
Every single full plane user uses firefox. I know that I know that I know that this is this is just fact

1552
02:34:48,900 --> 02:34:53,780
It's like it's a law of The universe. Yep. Um, even the ones that use chrome

1553
02:34:54,420 --> 02:35:00,260
This is super cool. They still use firefox coach a small french company sells a product called infinite battery

1554
02:35:00,420 --> 02:35:06,020
Which allows users to swap individual cells inside in order to have them the battery last longer

1555
02:35:06,020 --> 02:35:11,860
The company explains that most e-bike batteries are made up of collections of 18 650 cells

1556
02:35:12,020 --> 02:35:17,140
Which are wired together in series in parallel and often an e-bikes battery will fail and stop working

1557
02:35:17,380 --> 02:35:20,340
Even if only a small handful of these individual cells stop working

1558
02:35:20,900 --> 02:35:25,700
The product is a fireproof casing and some documentation that allows users to swap in fresh

1559
02:35:26,260 --> 02:35:31,060
Cells with only a screwdriver. It also has a built-in battery monitoring and other stats that can be seen through your phone

1560
02:35:31,140 --> 02:35:34,980
And is currently compatible without with about 90 percent of existing e-bike brands

1561
02:35:36,100 --> 02:35:41,140
This is super cool. That's awesome. Yeah, we did a video

1562
02:35:41,620 --> 02:35:44,260
Man, this was years ago at this point where

1563
02:35:45,060 --> 02:35:50,020
The title is this should be illegal battery repair blocking and uh

1564
02:35:50,740 --> 02:35:55,380
It was when I discovered that not only will brands

1565
02:35:56,740 --> 02:36:00,820
Not enable you to replace the cells in your battery pack

1566
02:36:00,980 --> 02:36:07,380
But some of them will actively block you from doing it by detecting a change in voltage at the bms

1567
02:36:08,180 --> 02:36:15,540
and then self-destructing If at any point that voltage goes outside of certain parameters and uh

1568
02:36:16,260 --> 02:36:22,500
This was back when collin was working here. He told me that apparently some of them are so

1569
02:36:23,620 --> 02:36:28,260
So bad that not only will they self-destruct if it like goes to zero

1570
02:36:29,220 --> 02:36:32,020
But they will self-destruct if you charge them

1571
02:36:32,980 --> 02:36:40,180
and it's like It suspiciously charges like too much more better. You must have changed the cells in here

1572
02:36:41,220 --> 02:36:45,700
And they'll turn off Go to sleep forever

1573
02:36:45,700 --> 02:36:49,860
That is brutal. I still believe everything that I said back then that should be illegal

1574
02:36:49,940 --> 02:36:54,820
And I think that this e-bike company sounds super cool. Yeah, that's awesome

1575
02:36:55,380 --> 02:36:58,260
There's some microsoft announcements from build 2025

1576
02:36:58,660 --> 02:37:04,420
Microsoft has made their Windows subsystem for Linux lsx open source with the code up on github now

1577
02:37:04,980 --> 02:37:11,460
LSx allows Windows to natively run elf executables and implement Linux syscalls inside the Windows kernel

1578
02:37:11,620 --> 02:37:16,900
Very cool microsoft is also adding model context protocol support Windows 11 for tighter integration with ai

1579
02:37:17,220 --> 02:37:23,460
All right from an official statement the mcp platform on Windows will offer a standardized framework for ai agents to connect with native Windows apps

1580
02:37:23,460 --> 02:37:28,820
Which can expose specific functionality to augment the skills and capabilities of those agents on Windows 11 pcs

1581
02:37:29,460 --> 02:37:33,700
Okay, and finally microsoft has announced the newest web syndication standards

1582
02:37:33,780 --> 02:37:39,460
nl web designed to make it easier for ai to crawl the internet and add tighter ai integration into web pages

1583
02:37:40,980 --> 02:37:42,980
Cool

1584
02:37:44,660 --> 02:37:52,180
And in other hooray news open ai buys one of joanie ive's companies io for six and a half

1585
02:37:52,740 --> 02:37:59,060
billion dollars. Oh good I am happy they had that much money. I was reading an article about this acquisition

1586
02:38:00,020 --> 02:38:07,620
that um highlighted products that uh the the x design chief at apple

1587
02:38:08,180 --> 02:38:11,940
um was working on with his like love from or

1588
02:38:12,500 --> 02:38:18,260
io company or like whatever whatever it is that he's doing sure and and one of i think two

1589
02:38:19,380 --> 02:38:24,740
projects that they highlighted was That he's designing his company's headquarters

1590
02:38:26,580 --> 02:38:30,740
And i was like Okay, like right, but isn't that just like

1591
02:38:31,860 --> 02:38:36,100
Like a necessary thing that because people need a place to sit like what are you actually

1592
02:38:37,220 --> 02:38:44,260
What do you actually do? I'm actually i'm a hundred percent not sure and maybe i'm missing something here

1593
02:38:44,740 --> 02:38:51,540
But i i i haven't seen anything that love from or io have done that are worth six and a half

1594
02:38:52,340 --> 02:38:55,620
billion dollars

1595
02:38:55,620 --> 02:38:59,060
Like can we Can we contextualize this?

1596
02:38:59,540 --> 02:39:05,940
at all um, like this must be this must be a game changer

1597
02:39:06,820 --> 02:39:13,940
Like absolute game changer. Can you guys can you guys let me know like what love from or and or io

1598
02:39:14,420 --> 02:39:21,780
Have done to be worth six and a half Bees apparently sam altman has been working with johnny i've already on some like

1599
02:39:22,740 --> 02:39:25,940
i'm assuming ai enabled smart wearable necklace thing

1600
02:39:27,380 --> 02:39:30,500
Uh, because apparently we didn't learn anything from the ai pin

1601
02:39:34,100 --> 02:39:38,500
So maybe No one's giving me anything in here. Well, I don't think they've done anything

1602
02:39:39,540 --> 02:39:45,380
So I think the the value is this stuff's done stuff. They've done like design work for companies. Yeah. Yeah, it's not like

1603
02:39:45,620 --> 02:39:49,220
Oh, but I don't think they've released like a product. It's not like johnny. I just just been like sitting there

1604
02:39:50,100 --> 02:39:56,580
Wouldn't be surprised. I mean no, I would I would he seems like he seems like a go-getter. He's a grinder. I just um

1605
02:40:00,980 --> 02:40:05,620
What The 6.5 billion

1606
02:40:05,940 --> 02:40:11,940
Yeah What what is your what to sorry what it's sorry sorry the 6.5 billion. What about the 6.5 billion?

1607
02:40:12,740 --> 02:40:16,900
No, you said what no, no, no, don't worry about it. It doesn't matter. Okay. I must have misheard you. Okay, cool

1608
02:40:17,700 --> 02:40:23,700
I I think I think it's the the whatever they've already been working together behind closed doors on a

1609
02:40:24,340 --> 02:40:27,940
Device sure but for six and a half billion dollars. Oh, yeah

1610
02:40:28,820 --> 02:40:33,060
Like how many units have said device could you possibly be hoping to sell?

1611
02:40:33,780 --> 02:40:39,860
Such that you could amortize over that number of units the 6.5 billion dollar acquisition of your partner

1612
02:40:40,020 --> 02:40:44,660
I really you know the um, you know the Analysis that happened when

1613
02:40:44,820 --> 02:40:47,940
Elon like bought and sold his companies to each other

1614
02:40:48,580 --> 02:40:52,500
Yeah, and people were like, oh, it's it's because he's like effectively moving money around

1615
02:40:52,500 --> 02:40:56,100
So that he has more stock control of a higher percentage of whatever blah, blah, blah

1616
02:40:56,420 --> 02:40:59,220
I really wonder how much of that is happening

1617
02:41:00,740 --> 02:41:07,220
Unmass in the ai space as there's like all this funding going in and then companies are finding like

1618
02:41:07,620 --> 02:41:11,620
Oh, everyone kind of hates it and there's a lot of free models

1619
02:41:12,020 --> 02:41:15,940
And there isn't actually a ton of money in like developing LLM tech

1620
02:41:16,740 --> 02:41:19,940
uh Let's just like

1621
02:41:20,180 --> 02:41:23,140
Buy companies and do this other stuff to like move the money around

1622
02:41:24,260 --> 02:41:28,500
I mean, I guess um

1623
02:41:28,500 --> 02:41:32,340
Well, hey, congratulations Johnny

1624
02:41:32,340 --> 02:41:36,180
um That's a lot more money than you would have made hanging around at apple

1625
02:41:36,900 --> 02:41:40,420
so Yeah Good job

1626
02:41:40,420 --> 02:41:43,380
Yeah sure

1627
02:41:44,740 --> 02:41:53,380
Unless it's just moving money around I mean, I like really feel like it might be there's all these rumors about open ai and microsoft kind of breaking up and um

1628
02:41:54,820 --> 02:41:59,860
I don't know the last thing that open ai did that was big in the news that wasn't drama

1629
02:42:02,500 --> 02:42:09,780
Compared to other companies that are like Pushing big models and arguably more effective models and open ai's models

1630
02:42:10,660 --> 02:42:13,300
Many of which are just open source which just like

1631
02:42:14,180 --> 02:42:16,180
Largely removes the need for them to exist

1632
02:42:17,540 --> 02:42:20,340
I don't know it's an interesting field for open ai right now, but

1633
02:42:22,500 --> 02:42:31,300
Yeah, um Our discussion question, which I actually do want to discuss for a bit is let's say this isn't a necklace

1634
02:42:32,260 --> 02:42:35,220
Let's just speculate, but it's not a necklace

1635
02:42:35,860 --> 02:42:38,660
What wearable ai tech

1636
02:42:39,380 --> 02:42:42,980
Can you think of that would actually be something you would consider buying?

1637
02:42:43,540 --> 02:42:48,180
Because I have felt a little left behind

1638
02:42:48,180 --> 02:42:50,180
By current hardware trends

1639
02:42:51,300 --> 02:42:59,860
I don't want smart glasses At least not in their current form. How many people do well some people do. I mean met us selling some glasses

1640
02:43:00,820 --> 02:43:08,260
Um, I don't use I actually don't even this is not a co-pilot enabled pc. I don't even have a co-pilot button

1641
02:43:08,740 --> 02:43:12,820
I this one isn't here. Yes, it is. It's right there. Ah um

1642
02:43:12,820 --> 02:43:18,500
Okay, so you're clearly in the same situation as me. Oh my god. It does do something when I press it. Well, I'll have to kill that

1643
02:43:19,940 --> 02:43:29,780
I'll find a way. Yeah, it's not you It doesn't the point is I have used co-pilot enabled PCs and have only ever pressed the button by accident

1644
02:43:30,340 --> 02:43:36,580
I I I don't never even pressed by accident. I don't use AI. You know, is there I blocked it out like you blocking out ads

1645
02:43:37,220 --> 02:43:44,340
nice, um But but people are you like I don't I don't really use it as part of my workflow like occasionally

1646
02:43:45,060 --> 02:43:50,020
Fire up, you know chat gpt or you know, whatever to like when I was brainstorming

1647
02:43:50,740 --> 02:43:57,940
names first mash champs I I was like, oh, okay. Yeah, what would you call a badminton center? I ultimately went with something that was different from anything

1648
02:43:57,940 --> 02:44:05,300
That's put out but like use it as a sounding board. Yeah, I used it as a sounding board But like I almost know I will never rely on it

1649
02:44:06,180 --> 02:44:09,940
I shouldn't say will never I don't mean that future looking maybe someday I will rely on it

1650
02:44:09,940 --> 02:44:13,780
But I I never really rely on the intention right now um

1651
02:44:13,780 --> 02:44:20,180
And so I just feel like like all the new products that are coming out are like not for me. I like to write things myself

1652
02:44:20,820 --> 02:44:25,380
um, I don't want to wear smart glasses and I'm just like

1653
02:44:26,020 --> 02:44:30,740
can I just I don't know. Can I just have like ear pods?

1654
02:44:32,660 --> 02:44:36,980
Oh, okay, like they could be headphones already. I love how effective apple's branding is man

1655
02:44:37,300 --> 02:44:39,940
the fact that you called them ear pods is like

1656
02:44:41,940 --> 02:44:45,220
Mind-blowing to me. I I go out of my way consciously

1657
02:44:45,700 --> 02:44:53,540
to call these my earphones These days because it just it bothers me that my kids call any earphones air pods

1658
02:44:54,180 --> 02:44:58,020
like it just bothers me Air pods are not

1659
02:44:58,340 --> 02:45:04,420
A monopoly even though they basically are And uh, sorry. Sorry. It just bothers me the reason why I

1660
02:45:05,620 --> 02:45:09,300
Do like calling them ear pods. I know they're the only ones that I hate all the other ones

1661
02:45:09,460 --> 02:45:14,580
I mean you're wearing ones that seem to be staying in okay, uh, they like hurt because I had to jam them in

1662
02:45:16,580 --> 02:45:20,100
Like my ears will be sore for the rest of the day. Oh, woe is me. Yeah

1663
02:45:21,540 --> 02:45:23,540
I mean

1664
02:45:26,740 --> 02:45:28,980
Uh, okay, sorry. I don't know why I said that

1665
02:45:31,140 --> 02:45:36,660
But okay, if you look at like air pod fours, they got actually pretty significantly smaller. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah there

1666
02:45:36,740 --> 02:45:41,300
So there is room to have some expansion to fit a little bit more tech in there

1667
02:45:42,260 --> 02:45:44,980
Um, especially if it's just like reporting out to your phone or something

1668
02:45:45,300 --> 02:45:49,700
Okay, so and then you could hear because they they have the ability to talk to lm's

1669
02:45:49,780 --> 02:45:55,460
Okay, so so but then let's let's let's ask the usual question right

1670
02:45:56,020 --> 02:45:59,060
And that is why would that need to be in my earphones?

1671
02:46:00,100 --> 02:46:02,580
Why wouldn't it just be in my phone which is connected to my earphones?

1672
02:46:03,940 --> 02:46:08,100
Yeah Okay, so

1673
02:46:08,100 --> 02:46:15,300
Let's try again There's no wearable then though. That's the problem other than glasses like what the heck would a necklace do nothing

1674
02:46:16,500 --> 02:46:20,580
Well, it could have a I

1675
02:46:24,660 --> 02:46:26,660
Camera on it

1676
02:46:30,260 --> 02:46:33,540
You laugh, but it's basically that stupid google thing. Yeah that google

1677
02:46:34,820 --> 02:46:39,380
No camera that would take pictures with ai at like the right times or whatever

1678
02:46:39,780 --> 02:46:43,700
Everyone's like completely forgotten about this. I bring it up every once in a while. It's so bad

1679
02:46:44,340 --> 02:46:46,980
Uh, do you guys remember what that stupid thing was called chat?

1680
02:46:47,940 --> 02:46:53,940
Um You're like Pretty hyper out of time. I can help you go pack up your room if you want

1681
02:46:54,660 --> 02:47:02,340
Uh, sure Um, what else do we need to get through? We got a couple more. There's one more really important thing. Okay two brave souls

1682
02:47:03,460 --> 02:47:10,260
our Clip says hold on hold on. Yeah, hold on google clip. I think that's it or wait was google google clip software

1683
02:47:12,260 --> 02:47:16,020
Uh, I don't remember this at all. Clip on camera device designed by google

1684
02:47:17,540 --> 02:47:19,620
Two and a half stars from the verge nice

1685
02:47:22,100 --> 02:47:31,140
I think that might have been it Uh, anyways, hold on hold on you're gonna like this two brave souls are fighting to preserve the lost art of GPU boxes

1686
02:47:31,380 --> 02:47:34,980
Oh Okay, check this out

1687
02:47:36,020 --> 02:47:44,340
Look at this It's like uh, it's like a table book. Oh, that's cool. They went around look at what we had

1688
02:47:44,900 --> 02:47:50,660
They were oh man. I knew you're gonna like this and painstakingly captured

1689
02:47:51,540 --> 02:48:01,300
Cool GPU box art From back in the day and just made like a table book of it. Look how like this is a crazy card

1690
02:48:01,860 --> 02:48:06,820
And how like normie and plain that looks yeah compared to all this stuff. Look at this

1691
02:48:07,380 --> 02:48:09,940
This is so awesome. Dan. Are you getting this on screen at all?

1692
02:48:10,660 --> 02:48:12,660
As your hopes up then

1693
02:48:14,020 --> 02:48:20,740
Uh over cloths Yes, I can see it an archive of graphics card box art is a new book showcasing the most radical

1694
02:48:21,300 --> 02:48:28,740
GPU box art from the bygone era of bombastic branding and is being being released by publisher lock books on may 31st

1695
02:48:29,220 --> 02:48:35,540
Curated by mike mccabe and sam bailey it will feature over 300 retail boxes from the late 1990s through to the early 2010s

1696
02:48:35,940 --> 02:48:40,020
Plus over 50 GPU print ads from the golden age of gaming magazines

1697
02:48:40,740 --> 02:48:47,380
um That's all that's cool. I like it. There's a couple of messages. Sorry. We should get one for the office. I'd be down

1698
02:48:49,780 --> 02:48:57,300
All right a couple left here. Hi dll recently upgraded pc after years. Why in 2025 does it seem like Windows?

1699
02:48:58,260 --> 02:49:04,420
Is Windows unable to migrate apps and settings seamlessly? For example, iandroid iOS upgrades to

1700
02:49:04,900 --> 02:49:08,180
Resetting up apps explorer pinned items is still so manual

1701
02:49:10,740 --> 02:49:14,980
That's a good question. I mean, I I actually find the process pretty darn manual

1702
02:49:15,380 --> 02:49:19,540
On iOS as well Windows really if you upgrade Windows

1703
02:49:20,420 --> 02:49:24,660
Isn't it pretty seamless or do they mean moving the device a fresh install? That's what it sounds like to me

1704
02:49:25,220 --> 02:49:28,660
yeah migration and and like

1705
02:49:28,660 --> 02:49:33,380
I I guess for me I would say um

1706
02:49:33,620 --> 02:49:40,900
There's a really really fine line between carrying forward settings that will be helpful to the user and

1707
02:49:41,780 --> 02:49:45,860
carrying forward Prud that might have been like

1708
02:49:45,860 --> 02:49:49,860
Bunging up your previous Windows install. I also want to stop install. Yeah

1709
02:49:51,540 --> 02:49:58,020
So I just don't know. I don't know how you'd fix that without making a lot of other things worse. Yeah, and

1710
02:49:58,820 --> 02:50:02,340
You might say okay. Yeah, but i'm the user I could decide what I prefer

1711
02:50:02,740 --> 02:50:07,380
But a lot of users would probably use this convenient option and then have their system be

1712
02:50:08,500 --> 02:50:15,780
Bunged and then blame microsoft for it. So I can see why a fresh install is a fresh install. I I get it

1713
02:50:17,860 --> 02:50:23,940
Last one i've got for you today Linus have your badminton friends over there reacted to smash champs yet?

1714
02:50:24,580 --> 02:50:31,780
Uh, yeah, yeah, I I had told them last year that it was coming. So uh pretty much everyone

1715
02:50:31,860 --> 02:50:38,020
I showed them some of the pictures on like google maps and stuff like that and uh, they're they're mostly like

1716
02:50:38,900 --> 02:50:43,620
What really? Oh, I'm like, yeah, yeah, I mean I told you I was doing this. They're like, yeah, but like it looks really good

1717
02:50:44,900 --> 02:50:49,860
Thanks Appreciate that

1718
02:50:50,180 --> 02:50:53,140
Yeah, it's been good. I got together with um

1719
02:50:53,620 --> 02:50:59,460
Most of my like badminton crew uh this year. I played every day. I'm dying

1720
02:50:59,540 --> 02:51:03,780
I think one of my toenails on my left foot is probably gonna fall off. Um

1721
02:51:05,300 --> 02:51:10,260
My tennis elbow is back full force. No, but it's um

1722
02:51:13,140 --> 02:51:17,140
I have like no grip strength right now from just like using it hard all week

1723
02:51:17,300 --> 02:51:21,220
I I'm I think I lost uh about six pounds

1724
02:51:21,940 --> 02:51:26,260
I've got little man doing five different things for his forearms. Oh really? Yeah

1725
02:51:27,380 --> 02:51:34,180
Five different things. I mean at his age, there's probably a sixth, but that's the that's on his own. Yeah

1726
02:51:36,900 --> 02:51:42,260
And I guess we'll see you again next week. Uh same bad time. Uh same bad channel. Bye

1727
02:51:51,220 --> 02:51:53,220
You