Sometimes we get accused of being out of touch so we're putting that to the test today our tech tipsters will go head-to-head in an epic showdown
That's right using only their knowledge. They will build a
$1,000 PC that doesn't seem that hard. Well, there's a catch
We need the highest possible performance, but we can't go over budget
And we're not allowed to check the internet for price. Oh, well, that is a lot harder than I guess the pressure's on
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All right lads the rules are simple one build the best
$1,000 PC from anything on these shelves to no help from the internet and three a few other restrictions that I sent
Out yesterday any questions don't care Go I
Think we go big GPU. Yeah, 100% and for am for for sure
I don't care about case just something cheap and decent I'll be like a Chinese brand big risk, but I want to go 7900 X you're gonna way over shoot
No, some some of them are really cheap like how cheap like 500 bucks. We want to waste money on CPU
Okay, and fractal mesh fight to Each team has their plan and now it's time to select all of our parts
We're gonna do a snake draft order starting with team literal arson. We have 45 seconds per part
Let's go. Okay. Oh, let's go
7900 XT not the XTX Well, we could go for a fancy with 78. No, we need to go the cheapest
Looking one the Gigabyte looks expensive. I was hoping for something that seems cheaper looking. We got a pic. We got a pic
So Niger next we're next
We got we have our part. Okay, do we want
12 or 13 12 might be cheaper like we could do 12 400. Do we have a 12 400? Oh
Oh my god, we don't have any of the ones that I'd want
G is not as good
13 400 13 100
They're going 79 does that make that way too expensive. They're going way over budget
7900 7800 XT that's a maybe that's 7700 XT
Okay, we're going on that. We're gonna that sweet CPU CPU CPU. I really would rather go with this unless you want to go Intel
33 or four Okay, okay
Be 660 basic 650 Jesus oh and they said a point. Oh, no
No, this is it yeah, oh god
No, no, this one this one. All right, it's our turn go. All right
All right yelling all right, I'm looking for motherboards a m4 where the frick is it right here?
Do you think B450 pro for good? I think that's fine. All right. That's probably a hundred bucks. Okay, okay?
Well, we get to go again, right? Yeah, okay, basically all they have AMD wise. That's like reasonable, right?
I really don't know. I think it'd be safer just to go with like this. That is this one
That's probably the best choice. Yeah, we're gonna go with the 5600 G
6900 XT or 7900 XT or 7 or some eat. I think 78 is the one this looks like some pretty awful stuff
Should we just go for it or the gram
Okay, I have what I want. I just can't get it out. What did you just do?
What does this require? It's pretty chonk dude. It's pretty chonk. It is pretty chonk. Oh my fuck
We're screwed We're so screwed
Now that the major components have been selected We're gonna round out our systems with RAM, case, power supply, etc. until we get to the most important category
flex item I need to find out if there's fans that are included with this or not. So if you want to use our FETS pick for fans
Real quick. Oh god, it's back. No! No fans. So get fans. Okay
This is good. This will work. Let's cheap. RGB would be really good. It's gonna be so expensive though
It's gonna be really expensive. I want something silly Alaja, we can have this for ten dollars
Done The parts have been selected our fates have been sealed now
It's time to build starting with team arson for our CPU
We ended up going with the 5600G and I think we ran into the same issue a lot of the other teams did which is when they
Looked in the pile of AMD CPUs all of them were already checked out either to another project or Labs testing
I don't know how much these are worse now. I have literally no clue. I want to say
150 bucks I put down 125 as my guess
I'm feeling a little bit sick to my stomach the fact that the first component is different than I thought it was
I thought we just got a regular 13 100, but this is the 13 100 F. F is just no graphics. No graphics. That's fine
It's actually better so it should be cheaper. You'll save 10 bucks probably
I think we went a little overboard on the CPU We went with a 13 600 K because there was like no we wanted a 5600 X. Yeah, we panicked. Yeah, we panicked
And then for motherboard we went with a ASUS prime B660 plus
Which is one of the cheapest LGA 1700 boards that we have in stock. We wanted to make sure that our CPU runs at boost clocks
So maybe we can win big in the CPU competition that might push us over the edge. Yeah, man
This motherboard looks very cheap Alex. Exactly
And that was one of the original things with going with am4 plat. Oh my gosh, these yeah, that's fine
Very wobbly Well, we went with it as rock B450 pro 4. How much do you think these are like I was gonna say like 70 maybe 90
That might be pushing like a hundred
13 100 F and then we got our Z690 plus Wi-Fi D4 motherboard
It is a much more expensive board than I would have picked
But we didn't see any 660 ones left in terms of our estimates
We were thinking 13 100 130 bucks Z690 we said 170. It's probably more
I think I'm gonna I'm gonna adjust our estimate to 200. You think so. Yeah, which is a huge bummer for the RAM
Chose the one that was used in the sheen build I don't actually know how to pronounce it, but it was blurred the last time I pronounced it like this
So ddr4 3200 megahertz
That's style points right there. Yeah, that's that's class if you ask me
I think the anime adds five bucks, so we're gonna 40. I think that's our estimate all right cross our fingers with that one
Yeah, this whole build Please please please please the only thing we know for sure is that we are over budget
All right, so we're just going stock cooler here. Yeah, which is nice zero dollars. I actually haven't installed these stock coolers
I remember G boy over here. What okay, don't do that. This young man does not know the ways of the
When you boot up again, oh, I do my computer still screams kind of case that we get we got a phanteks eclipse g
360 a great case. This is probably gonna come in around a hundred dollars. Yeah, maybe 110 tops
We got the Phanteks eclipse P 300 this reach here. Uh, it
That's quality. It feels Kind of like junk but not in a way. That's like concerning
It's not going to hurt me which is like a plus I guess and we have what seems like too nice of a fan in the back
I'm a bit concerned about that next is our flex item. Oh, yeah, and Jordan
I want you to take a closer look at the box that you chose. Oh Did I do a bad? Oh, it's like strips
What I know I 100% would have made the same I was fully reading that is LS 120
120 mil fans this box looks like a pack of three fans. This is not looking good for Jordan
While he's handling all the stuff on the motherboard, I'm gonna be getting the case prepped
We got this thermal take smart at BM 3 650 want 80 plus bronze. I think we all have the same strategy
We went for thermal take bronze Is it just we all consider them cheap? I think so
I think we were all expecting them to be cheaper than I see sonic or a Corsair one thing that I did not realize when I
Picked that GPU was that it requires an 800 watt power supply
So we went with what seemed like the worst 800 watt power supply, but not so bad that it would actually just not work
What do you think though? 65 to 100 it's only 650 watt. I think it's 100 tops
$85 sure it's 650 watt. It's bronze. Yeah, they're gonna take they make some great products
But they not necessarily the power supply like yeah, well, that's not thermal take that's thermal, right? Oh, you're right
We love them. Yeah, we do love thermal, right the phantom spirit 120 se argb
$40 I'm gonna say 50 you think 50 because yeah
Spirit's newer. I'm just gonna tighten my cooler down with our LTT screwdriver from LTT Store calm. Oh
Yeah, yeah, don't get screwed be the one who does the screwing one thing that I was thinking mm-hmm
As far as I can tell there are no
Bonus points for noise. We should go full fan speed on everything
I Mean we can but like what's the
So just so it stays super cool. Oh, yeah, it just like might net us a couple FPS
Man I'm getting kind of worried that like we're gonna be so far off on budget and we're gonna like really I got less nervous when I saw
Alex grab the 7900 XT I was really hoping that we would have like an X FX or a slightly crappier
7900 XT because this right here might be 900 bucks
You told you told me 600 it might be
So we're banking on 600 bucks that's how much we think it's worth I'm saying 650 okay six
For a GPU we picked a good old 7700 XT. We think it's gonna do just fine
We didn't want to go overboard on price
What's 7700 XT 500 500 bucks 500 bucks. I'll be 500 probably 550 maybe so long
Yeah, the board is done here. The cooler. I hope it fits. Oh, yeah, no problem. Okay, that's good
God I Was like hey, let's go plug it in
Like it's like it's like right now. I think you can get it. I think you can get it. Oh, I
Okay, we're gonna need some finagling here. We're gonna need some finagling
Wait, that means we probably have time to go in laser We're not laser etching the glass panel Alex. Yes, we are that's we have millimeters of clearance
I did not think about that at all. That GP is massive
So not only did you potentially screw us on price you almost screwed us
On an actual space. Okay. Do you want to plug it in plug it in get it posting? How much time do we have?
15 okay, dude, we're not gonna have time. No, we're gonna have time
We haven't even post tested we can post test over there
You can do that and worry about the cable management. I will make this art literal art. Oh, all right
We're going to the frickin 105. It's a stupid idea
Look, I've had only bad ideas today. Let's not stop
Okay, nothing yet. Hold on Well, they're both diagnostic saying anything
Do we have read it? There's a it's one of those lights has like four options
DRAM So it might be memory training. We'll give it. Yeah, I give it a minute
All right, we're coming over here really really fast. We have about 15 minutes. I'm going to try in that time
To create us a custom side panel. Now. We don't have enough time to do it as like a I don't even remember
What's that called? I just need to get going
Oh
We're good
Alex is pretty as your glasses it'd be really cool if the computer turned on
It really would be a little nut. Yeah, we still have our DRAM light. DRAM light. Are these dead?
David our DDR4 might be bad. I'm just gonna hit start and hope for the best
Yeah, this might guarantee that we totally do not win the style points if it's only half done
Which is really looking quite likely at the moment Alex I need help getting the computer booted though. Oh you do. I literally cannot get it to boot. What? Yeah
So I had it plugged in. I know this cable works because it was powering the monitor
But I tried unplugging even the front. I owe to see if it was the button, but I touched the pins and it does not
Doesn't go
I don't know
Yeah, yeah, yeah, because this
I don't think it's our fault. It seems like it might just actually be a dead power spot. What the f*** just happened? Oh
We're f***ed we're f***ed
They got most of the way through too. I have no clue why it did that
Oh, you know what happened Tine and change the focal distance
Of this laser I have I had the laser about as low of a power and as fast as it could get
But this is the first time that we have ever etched With this laser. This is what I wanted to be on the side panel. Just the sad Linus on fire
team literal Erson I cannot believe that that side panel exploded. Oh, I can
I totally can it's almost like we said hey, Alex. We only have 10 minutes left. Maybe we shouldn't go for this
I'm just gonna send it and see what happens. I still don't see any LEDs. Yeah, there's still nothing. Do we have a dead board?
Kind of really looking like it. Alex, what do you think is more dead?
The mother board of the side panel
The mother board we can still put the shards of the side panel in there
We could save this but yeah, our mother board's dead. So I guess we'll have to figure out what
Happens next. This is really unfortunate. Yeah
Okay, okay, okay, uh power button 15 seconds moment of truth
Yeah, I got the RGB. That's good. That's good. We got lights yellow light d-RAM
Oh, it's not going away. What do you mean? It's sticking around. We might have a RAM issue
No As per the rules which you can see here
We are going to replace these broken components with working ones and get these computers all
tuned up Computers are built Windows is installed. Everything's ready to go
It's time for the teams to show off what they have done. There's our computer everyone
Do you like our decoration? We got some for free. Uh, and we did pay ten dollars for this hypno frog
Tell us what happened to your side panel. Alex decided to try to laser etch the glass
And he we didn't have the laser dialed in and all of a sudden we heard a shatter
So while while you were building a pc, he just went to the shop to no no
We built the pc and we were so confident and was working. We're like, let's go laser etch it
Then it didn't boot because the motherboard was dead and then the glass panel shattered all in five minutes
Actually, the motherboard wasn't dead. We had the Ryzen 5600 g from that random Lenovo desktop
That is that has a fuse in it that locks it from going in another computer. Totally forgot about that
We have a whole video on that and you can plug in another Ryzen chip into that Lenovo board and it will lock that as well
I'm pretty sure that's a while. It's crazy. We have another 5600 g
But because we couldn't figure it out. We have a different motherboard that david selected for us. Got it. It's equivalent value
You'll still be Scored at the original price got it and motherboards aren't super
Important for performance. So we've kind of gone a little bit looser on that and now that he's laid that out
This helped us a lot It turns out that we screwed up and accidentally got a pc ie gen 3 board
This one is let's go. He got it. So we have resizable bar enabled
We have we have the GPU running a full thing. This is really good. That would have been a huge
And I see you went with the 7900 x t which is not a mid-range card
What uh, what was the impetus for that card? This was an executive decision by alex
In a $1,000 build I would not recommend this GPU normally, but you can get them on sale
We're hoping one's on sale right now We estimated this computer costing 1115 dollars. What that's again, hoping the GPU is on sale the actual price
Not bad. Not bad. Okay. It's not bad
$1,249 and 27 cents the GPU was $700 and your original motherboard trace really saved you was 100 bucks
So we're gonna have a 24.9
percent penalty Team by me had trouble from the beginning. Uh, we ended up making a rush decision and getting a 13 100 f
I was looking for like a 12 400 or a 13 400 something a lot more balanced
That's still really low price tough gaming motherboard. Okay. Yeah. Yeah
So the next problem we were you know locked into our ecosystem based on our CPU choice
And I was looking for a b660 board and I couldn't find them in 45 seconds
We took one so we ended up with a z690 board
Our total system guess is 1205. Okay. It's a price. What's the price?
Oh So we were a pretty spot on on our guess our big factor was a 270 dollar f***ing motherboard
Oh my goodness 279 Yeah, so that gen last gen mother that's basically our entire overage compared to that one 170 dollar difference on a
Gd mother You got a nice case though. How much was the case? It was 70 dollars. What god damn
It's a pretty computer though. I like it. Tell them what we picked Adam. Oh team ddr for 20. We picked a
13 600 k which was um a panic decision
We had five seconds and we grabbed a 13 600 k which is probably going to be the thing that hurts us the most in terms of budget
Absolutely. It's a great CPU except for maybe the um, uh voltage issues. This only has to run for two hours
So who cares? Um, which also explains our power supply selection
We chose a thermal take literally the exact same thermal take smart line as everyone else who cares it only needs to be on for two hours
Another downside of our CPU pick was that we had to get
A cooler unlike the other two teams who had included coolers with their cpus
I will say as a note to that The cooler that they used is not the included one for the 5600 g
We're not going to dock points because it's RGB and it's way cooler
But it would come with just the stealth with this which is a black one, but will it cool down our price?
Oh, let's see. You had the highest guess. We were very cynical even with the lowest GPU
We guessed at least $350 for our CPU and we came in wow
Nice 1092 dollars. Wow. It turns out we have no idea how much stuff costs
But um, we always err on the side of of expensive. So that's good. We kind of know what it costs
We were trying to build a thousand dollar PC. We came out around $1100. I think that's pretty decent
They got a little bit lucky. The 1300k just happens to be on sale
Good job you guys. So that's you guys are the closest to the thousand for sure
That's gonna be a big help We took a break for the weekend and I've run some of the benchmarks beforehand
But we're gonna run our last one on camera. So get to your freaking stations
Three two one
I started first I win the best part about not having a side panel
If I can add extra cooling, it only helps if it's over-eating. Why is it showing them as winning?
Because we have a raw system, duh They're not putting any more. They dropped like crazy. Yeah, we're good. Oh, yeah, okay gg easy. Wow killed them
Yeah, I'm so surprised that 77 to 79 is way bigger of a difference in this game than I expected
Yeah, they're looking like 40 percent. Yeah, how do they have the fastest CPU score? That's a very good question
There's like wonkiness with some of the results like they have this massive drop in FPS in the middle of the benchmark
This is why like when Labs is doing testing We run things multiple times to make sure that any weird outliers are dealt with whereas this is just have fun with friends
Run some benchmarks see who did better, but oh well
We've run the benchmarks and I am shocked at the results in third place is
Team three with 535 out of 700 in second place is team two with 582 out of 700
And in first place is team one with 639 out of 700
Only have 60 points on the table However with a penalty that cost them 24.9 of their performance their final score puts them in second place and the winner
Yeah No way. Let's go. Wow
But but we haven't talked about the pineapple for good taste
What oh you
Out of the six boats Yeah
That means that they took a very clean victory not only did they win after price performance adjustment
But they got the best looking system. Hang on. Hang on. Hang on. We gotta deduct the points of scratch in the glass
They also were the closest to an actual thousand dollar mark
It's which was really awesome. Tell me how it feels to win. Well, David. It feels great
You know, we played a good game. We played a hard game the other guys. They're out there. You know, they're given
They're all ever seen You know and sometimes you take I take the wins with the good with the bad
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