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Hi everyone It begins
You're really far from your mic. Yeah, I was gonna say I forgot my I forgot my new
stance When it's dance God, how has it been such a long week for a short week wait was it a short week? No
Okay, well that explains it, but it is crazy. I think last week was a short week and next week is a short week, which is insane
They're trying to kill me. Yeah, I overheard a couple of people saying like the exact same thing
They're I would have never imagined in my life that I would be like upset about too long weekends so close together
Yeah, it's just too close Spread them out a little bit. Yeah, geez
It's like especially when it's like Canada only because the rest of the world keeps turning they keep moving
So it's like my emails keep coming in literally people on my team keep working
Right cuz they're in other countries, so it's like
Brilliant I yeah flawless perfection
I pretty much always end up still doing something on the like Canada only stats
But it's usually just like a very lazy day
What holiday do you have for short week in BC? I think this one is Thanksgiving. I don't know we just had Truth and Reconciliation Day though
All right, dude Dan, I hope you're warmed up cuz today is gonna be a little wild
Is it cuz of these are you saying these yeah, no I
Should just order like 10 on the show
I'm so excited man. I'm wearing my long sleeve right now. It's great. Me too. Yeah, oh
I'd literally I'm pretty sure I've done the laundry every single day since last week because I only brought one home
And I wore it that one day and I was like I can't I I can't not wear this now. Yes. Oh
My god Oh shoot am I not how do I log into the merch message dashboard again? What do you mean?
I always forget is it this I
Don't think so Apparently yes. Oh cuz you already have them. You're right. Never mind. Cool
All right. Well that worked out. You have to have the master password thing as well, but yeah
All right, should we do this thing?
Let's do this thing. Well, I don't know if I've ever seen Dan so happy
Yeah, it was the merch photo. Have you seen this? It was ridiculously genuine on this all sounds like
Content. Oh, yeah. All right, let's get the show started. That's amazing. I'm hitting it now. You don't smile much
Republishing okay resuming the selected
Happy Friday everybody and welcome to the WAN Show we have a fantastic show lined up
Guys this week because both Dan and Luke are in
Uncharacteristically good moods. Yeah
And they destroy fly away apparently they're in good moods so rarely they don't know how to express it so they're just awkward
I don't know what this emotion is I'm scared
On the show we'll be talking about the video that we did on me taking the a-plus exam and the fact that it is down
We will also be live Verifying whether my certificate is still active or not if it's not we have to like burn it or something
I guess so. I mean, I think that's how it works. Yeah, we'll also be talking about my experience so far
With the iPhone 16 plus which I have a lot of notes about
Like a lot. Oh What else we got this week Luke?
The WordPress feud is kind of bad news for like a bunch of the internet and also a bunch of M1 Macs are breaking
Really, I guess Apple wants you to finally upgrade. Oh
That's one way to do it
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D-brand The partners they wrapped our table. We have so many partners. Yeah, we're like an open relationship
Like that one in Seattle, but not quite we got a long way to go. There's a thing in Seattle. Oh, have you heard of that?
No answer to that. Damn. Why does Dan know about this?
Come from again. Everybody knows about it. We're all we're all in it
There's like a massive Polycule in Seattle and there's so many jokes. It's like 30,000 40,000 people
How big is it? I actually don't know what the real. Wow. Okay. Well, why don't we talk about tech for a little bit? Shall we I?
I Originally planned to do only one video on the iPhone 16. Oh, you're doing more. Well, I'm gonna I'm gonna talk about it
I'm gonna talk about it a little bit iPhone wars. The original plan was one video. I was gonna wait
I was gonna use it for like a month wait for iOS 18 dot one to come out
Which is gonna have the new Apple intelligence features so that I could do one video
Reviewing the complete iPhone 16 experience except here's a small problem. Okay. This is my document of notes so far
Whoa That's more than a video if those are good like, you know
Sometimes a whole section of notes comes down into like a line But if those are, you know, not very compressible, that's multiple videos
This is one of the buggiest device experiences that I have had in recent memory
Well, and I shouldn't say it's not just the buggy-ness either. So you're and you're a hundred percent sure it's buggy-ness. It's not
Unfamiliarity. I'll tell you what I'm about to send a file to Dan that is probably going to blow your mind
You're sending this file through teams. Is this teams? No
What do you mean? I'm sending this file through teams. No, no, no, no, it's a screen recording teams or no, sorry
It's a it's a camera clip. It's it's a clip. I recorded. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah
I'm just I'm just sending a file to Dan. He's gonna play it for the show
But are you doing it through teams? What? Yeah, okay. It doesn't matter. Okay. The sending is not the issue. No, no
It's just a file. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, no, no, no. No, dude
No, I know teams is a steaming pile of yeah fun. Um, I really like by the way if anyone from Microsoft is watching I
Genuinely feel like I could be helpful if you wanted to improve teams
I have some very easily actionable
Extremely massively improving feedback that I could give you and look how good his hair is today
Yeah, you got to take somebody seriously when they have hair that's good. That's probably a Microsoft thing
Yeah, they probably care. Yeah, they care a lot hear me out. I can help you. That's why they got a ballmer
That's why they had all those problems more like bald mer
You can't attack people for like male pattern baldness that's like
Half of our audience. Oh, yeah, can you not it's fine
I thought I was gonna be bald my whole life because my dad was bald and I didn't know that's not how that worked
Yeah, I thought I was too because I was told it's the man on your mother's side
And my grandfather went bald in high school. Oh, yeah, so my grandpa had hair the whole time from a very young age
I was like well That was part of the reason that I would dye my hair like wacky colors in high school. I was like
Enjoy it. Yeah, I just never cared. I thought my dad was cool. He was bald. So I was like, whatever. I'll just be bald
Okay, Dan. Do you have that file ready for us? Okay, can he hear audio? Is that something that we can just do smoothly now or is that is that still hit or miss?
No, it should be should be good to do it. Okay, play the clip. Okay. No, I've always wanted to say play the clip
All right, let's see. Let's see if I mess this up I
Okay, yeah
I take it this is not intentional
Wait, is it playing like four songs at once or something
416 out of 334. Oh Oh
My and that's that's not a problem with your car. That's not as far I've never had a problem with Android Auto in my car
Like that So it's so there's so many layers of problems here
That's not the song that was on the display. Okay. It was playing at what sounded like at least double the speed
Yeah, yeah, yeah, and the counter was obviously broken
Now fixing it was as simple as turning it off and turning it back on okay, right
But the issue is that I've had a number of those types of problems. Here's another fun one
I was I haven't daily driven an iOS device in a long time and
Back when I used to iPhone I used to game on my phone from time to time and one of the games that I liked as just like a past the time toilet game
It was jetpack joyride and as I was going through and ticking all of the boxes that for all the apps that I used to have and just kind of
You know mass dumping apps onto the phone because when I did the migration wizard
It prompted me for if I wanted to migrate my apps and the migration wizard wizard is specifically an Android app
So it asked me do you want to migrate your apps? And I'm like sure that sounds convenient
So it'll just like grab Twitter. It's no it just it didn't install any of them
Absolutely none absolutely zero
so anyway, I was manually installing my apps and
Like a caveman I Fired up jetpack joyride and I was like, okay. Let's uh, let's play this game and
I was sitting on the floor next to the cats and I was like doot-doot-doot. Yeah
I am I don't know firing bullets to fire my jetpack or whatever
I put it down like this and It auto-rotated to the other side and then I went oh shoot. I should have gotten a video that because it wouldn't come back
Okay, well that's apparently resolved now
Developers over at Apple are working fast. They're they're getting it done, but and I don't think I've gotten any updates
So that may I'm just rolling. Oh
You know what I bet it was no I bet I I bet I know how to replicate it now. Hold on. Give me a sec. Give me a sec
I think I can probably replicate it Here we go
Okay, so I'm resuming I'm putting it down. It's gonna flip the other way blah blah blah blah blah. I bring it back
Yeah, it's upside down. Yeah, why is it upside down luke? It's a really cool level in jetpack joyride where you have to you have to oh
Well Oh
I don't know that seems weird. Do you think it would rotate? Yeah. Yeah, you think that rotation lock isn't on or anything like that
Rotation lock is on. Oh But it will only lock one
Way that just sounds like an apple thing. I don't think that's a bug. No, it's it's an well. It's an apple thing in that it
is apple Obstinately refusing to implement a landscape lock on iOS
So iOS only has a portrait lock portrait orientation lock
iPad os and actually iOS on the ipad both support landscape
rotation lock But iOS does not
So if you have your display locked And an app forces landscape mode
You can only hold it one
Way I was gonna say I mean I'm stealing this from someone in full plane chat named a unique username, but I you're just holding it wrong
Um classic apple problem The thing is that i'm not because the camera bump is here and if I hold it like this that blows
Whereas if I hold it like this It's a lot better. Hold on. Can I hold it for a sec? Yeah, absolutely. I wonder
You know, you don't have to ask permission, right?
And this whole this whole orientation lock, I think I disagree really
Hit finger connects there if I go like this nothing touches the camera
Uh, this is more comfortable. You have much larger hands than me which to be clear
Is fine if some people prefer this way. No, I'm not so yeah, and some people prefer for this way. Yeah, that's totally cool
Unless your name is apple in which case that is not a totally cool not allowed. Um, and so
The so we used iphone's as teleprompters volume buttons are up
Uh, we use tele we use the iphone's as teleprompters And so the inability to lock them in landscape and leave them has resulted in us needing to do this really
obnoxious Onset maneuver that we call the dip
So every time the iphone every time one of the camera operators, you know, let's go the camera to you know
Do something with their hands or whatever and picks it back up It'll it'll have gone back to to portrait orientation or whatever and off be like
And they have to go like this with the whole camera rig and then lift it back up in order to reorient the teleprompter because
You cannot lock it in landscape mode
And so even apps that do force the iphone to go to landscape mode
Will leave it locked in the wrong orientation potentially because
It doesn't Properly have a landscape orientation lock
and dude there have been
So Many things like that. There's a lot of stuff that's really good. In fact, I would say probably a solid 60 to 70 percent of this
Is really good stuff their background playback is so cool. So check this out. I'm gonna I'm gonna load something up on my plex
um Okay, so check this out. We're gonna go we're gonna go oh
And the speakers are great Speakers are freaking amazing. Okay. Okay. That was another thing. Did you see how I swiped it up and it went up into the dynamic island?
Sure Okay, this time it goes to picture-in-picture. I I can't find the pattern here. That's probably how much you're
Yeah, I thought that um, and then I swiped it really fast and it like totally didn't go up into the island
So I don't know. I I haven't looked it up. I will I will figure that out before the re I cannot get youtube to go picture-in-picture
No matter what I do But plex sometimes goes on the island sometimes goes picture-in-picture, but when it is working check this out check this out
Background playback watch this Boom tucked it over there
Background playback still going there's a little arrow boom bring it back out like that
So cool. That's neat. That's nice. If you're into background playback
um That's a really cool sort of
Extra back background that you can that you can push it back to and you know what?
I'm sure there's variants of Android that do support stuff like that
um but
This was my first experience with it and I loved it. Oh
I have a whole paragraph on this. Do you see what's going on on the phone right now?
Yeah cameras open. Okay, this
This camera button Is probably the greatest
Difference between how good an idea seems on paper and how bad it is in practice that I have ever seen
In theory, it's great. I want to use my camera. I'm like boom camera button
Let's go. I'm taking pictures boom boom. I'm taking pictures with this button
Let's go. You can also click it a little bit and you can like adjust stuff and it's it's super cool
You can zoom you can zoom. Let's go. Let's zoom
In practice the ratio of times I hit it on purpose to times I hit it by accident is about one to five
Because every time I hold the bloody phone, where else am I supposed to hold it?
It's got the volume buttons over here the action button over here. It's got the lock button over here
It's got the camera button Where the hell am I supposed to hold this phone and not have it start
Changing my volume or locking itself or freaking opening the camera. It's driving me absolutely crazy. Yes
I know I'm holding it wrong ghost of jobs. I don't care
If I'm gonna complain about a bixby button, I'm gonna complain about a camera button. It's that simple
Um, my phone has a camera button. I don't have issues with it
Well, how nice for you Dan? How nice for you? Hey, animations make iOS feel freaking slow sometimes
Like just every single time you unlock your phone. You need to wait around for that
Oh And the fact that you have to the fact that you have to interact with the screen to unlock the phone
Drives me crazy. Can you do it again? Sorry, can I see you again?
Oh, well first I have to buy oh my god. Sorry
Okay, so first you biometrically authenticate. I am unlocked right now. Okay, but I have to interact with it again
Yeah, I have to wait around for that animation because mine has an animation too, but it's a lot faster
Yeah, and you don't have to touch your screen
In order to get rid of the the lock screen
So for those of you who are iOS users, you can just touch your touch sensor or face your phone
And you are just at the desktop. You don't have to
Swipe at it. Um, yeah Oh, man, what else apparently you can turn off the animations in accessibility
Why does apple hide? So actually I have a whole paragraph. Thank you Dan good or Dan good
Why does apple hide all the coolest features under accessibility?
They have this they have this new display tech really that allows them to go all the way down to one knit
And apparently we haven't actually tested whether it can do one knit or not, but
What I can tell you is it gets really dim at night as long as you go into the accessibility menu and enable
Whatever this is called Whatever this little sun thing here in the control center. Like why especially if you're going to have the feature in your keynote
Why why is it hidden in accessibility? It's like when for so long they hid a mouse support on the iPad
Maybe it's a big accessibility. Maybe it's a bid to try to normalize accessibility options
I think that seems like a maybe apple thing that I I don't think so
I'm gonna I'm gonna go with No
I have considered uh, no
Yeah, I have no idea. Um Android locks them in developer mode. Yeah
But I feel like it has less of them to lock if you know what I mean
Um, I'm gonna I'm gonna add a note here. Um, check the animation speed thing
See if it can be improved. Um The thing that I'm pretty sure can't be is I'm pretty sure you have to physically interact with the device in order to unlock it
And that's the thing that slows me down the most because I pretty much
Like I I I pretty much need a second hand in order to in order to here hold on bleh bleh
I pretty much need a second hand In order to get all the way to the bottom
Especially on the plus and if you can't get all the way to the bottom
You can't just swipe here because that'll just pull up your notifications and you can't just go again
It doesn't know it doesn't you have to get all the way down to the bottom in order to unlock it
Another thing that drives me absolutely crazy is the scrolling speed is locked. It's gated
So when I'm just like scrolling through a news feed or something like here, I bet I bet
Have you tried to daily drive an iphone like ever? Okay, so just scroll through a news feed and see how that feels for you
Just like like you're like you're skimming open to ebay. Oh, and I don't know how to go back on iphone
Oh, man, I got I got like two paragraphs on that. I already got stuck in literally less than a second
Dude, that's a user error to be clear. But dude, I've got I've got two paragraphs on back
How do you go back? Well, there's there's a gesture. There's a back gesture where you swipe from the left
So when you're when you're like in a you know, browser window or whatever else you just go for okay. Well, I'm not
Uh, oh right. I'm not using chrome. I'm using safari. I'm trying to have the apple experience. Okay, so I'm on LTT Store
Uh, if I want to go back I go like that And if I want to go between tabs, I go like that. It's actually yeah, that's kind of cool
Um, and I have a whole two paragraphs on the convenience of the back gesture
When it works Because there's still so many apps that use the old iOS paradigm of back is up and in the top left
Which is for a right-handed user Super single worst possible place to have the back button iOS whether apple users know it or not
iOS needs a proper universal
Back something and so I've started documenting all the times I've encountered when back gesture doesn't go back
Do you think you could I think you should try to pour through the accessibility options because I wonder if you can switch which side
It goes back. I will but it doesn't matter because it just isn't it just doesn't go back a lot
Because like needing to swipe from the left hand side sounds less convenient. Oh, yeah
It's possible that there's an accessibility option for that. I'm I'm not done
This is just this is raw notes and this is what I would take into sort of sitting down descriptor review
Um, and then I would I would go and I would figure out if they're if they're valid or not
like I specifically have stuff in here that I'm like, um
So check check into this uh follow this up. Um, anyway, so here
Is a news feed so flip like you're like trying to get past ads and stuff
That's too slow. It's Way too slow. It's all it feels like you oh interesting
If I if I like preload some things by scrolling a bunch and then scroll all the way back up
Uh, I can get it to go quick
But only for like a little little bit Like if you go all the way to the top and then try to crank it'll go
It's still not the speed, but it feels artificially slowed down what it isn't is the speed that I'm moving my finger
Yeah, whereas an Android phone for the most part will scroll as fast as you flick it
I did one flick of my thumb and I got all the way through the whole newsreel down to where it had to load more in one just
Which feels way more natural. I am I am quickly coming back to my old conclusion that
iOS is best enjoyed by people who aren't as busy as I am
Because pretty much everything takes a little bit longer on iOS
Pretty much everything I do In spite of how slow the note 9 is when I'm not gated by the soc
So installing an app for instance is much faster on the iphone compared to a five-year-old phone or however old that stupid thing is
Sure, um But in terms of just the interface
Do you know you can't resize the keyboard
Why Can you install third-party keyboards? Yes
And even swift key I can't resize. Oh weird. Okay, and I can't I can't long press for special characters
I'm one of the few people remaining on the planet who cares about punctuation
And I like actually just literally can't on this thing
Like yeah, I can navigate. Is that actually not a thing? There's no yeah
No, I can navigate to a submenu of special characters
And then what about second submenu of special characters and I've noticed that that drives me actually insane
I hate the second I hate the second
Oh my god saying you can Where you can resize the key. It's probably an accessibility options
Just long press on the key. Yeah, people are saying long press works for them and you can resize the keyboard
These are in Linus's defense. Hold on. These are notes. They're not done. Okay. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. No, no
No, I'm gonna switch. I'm gonna switch my keyboard. I'm gonna switch my keyboard right now. You guys are gonna show me
What are you guys talking about
Are you talking about like accents Like an accent that's not what he means. That's not what he means
That is super duper not what I'm talking about hold press
What is it for and then you get asterisk or whatever like he wants that that type of stuff
Hold the bottom left emoji. Oh my god. It is amazing
How like Oh
Some people are saying accessibility How much better
iOS could be um
And isn't Okay, i'm gonna go in i'm going into accessibility. We're headed into the accessibility
Menu because that's apparently where all the good things the whole phone on the iphone are
Okay, here we go Side button camera control
Camera control. Yeah, you can just disable that so that might be what I end up needing to do
um hearing devices Subtitles and captioning speech access keyboard and typing. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. Okay. Hover typing key repeat show lowercase keys
Slow keys sticky keys. I was saying long press the globe. I thought that was a joke, but long press the globe
Okay, hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hack the world. Yeah, hack the planet long press the globe because here we go
Here we go. Long press the globe Okay, keyboard settings. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. Okay
Uh Long press the globe was apparently a real sentence
I thought I literally thought they were just trolling everything's so obfuscated. Okay, so I have a one I have a one-handed keyboard here
I have show math results
um Period shortcut slide to type delete slide to type by word enable dictation auto punctuation
I don't know what you guys are talking about So the bottom options to scoot it to the left or right. Why would I want to do that?
I don't think that's what he means by resize. Oh my god. You can resize it
As long as you resize it exactly the way that apple wants you to resize it. You guys don't
See, this is the funny thing is it's just like the t9 dialing thing
We're talking to iOS users is a little hard because it almost saw they meant it almost feels like we're speaking a
Completely different language when I say resize a keyboard
I mean move it wherever the f*** you want
And make it any size you want
um That is not resizing a keyboard. Well
I mean it is but but not in the way that you meant
It's not a stupid feature. No, it's cool. Yeah because by shoving it to one side
Especially if you have smaller hands you can you can reach all the keys significantly more easily
And by being able to put it to either side that means that it can work that way for
People that are left or right-handed, especially
Say if you only have one hand But what he's talking about is is completely different pug boy asks
But how many people really do these things often? Nobody
Nobody does them often you do them one time so that your phone works really well for you
I'm pretty sure I set up my keyboard like close to a decade ago and just every time I've migrated Android phones
It just comes with me. Yeah, like I don't know. I don't remember last time I did anything with the keyboard
But I spent quite a while like grinding on keyboard settings like forever ago found a thing that I like
And now I can like go fast and everything seems good
Oh man, this is like such a this is a take that just drives me crazy sifrin says
Yes, it's a device not for someone like you. That's the point. I hope they don't make it like you want that would be an Android
No It would just be a better iphone
And then if you never wanted to turn any of that stuff on you could just not
Just yeah, just buried under settings Additional settings are like basically never bad as long as they're
dumped in menus So when I deeper in menus, so when I say long press guys, I want them in front of the users here. Let me let me explain what I mean
um Long pressing for special characters. Oh my god, you're not going to be able to see this. Well, that's it's quite a flashbang
You have there. Yeah, I know right so basically what happens is every one of my characters
I have every one of my alpha characters has a secondary character on it. So q is percent w is
The little hat I always forget what that thing's called I've got my parentheses over on the right over here. I've got my at on the a
So all I have to do is long press for 200 milliseconds and I can type that special character and like I dialed that in
So mine is shorter than 200 milliseconds. So if you type really quickly on your phone, then it's super
Useful to be able to say hey if I hold it ever so slightly longer
I get a special character instead of interacting one
two three times In order to type a special character
um Assuming that it's two menus deep which it sometimes very well can be and when I say resize your keyboard
um What I mean is here. Let me get into the
Let me get into the settings for this this you'll be able to see from there
And I hate actually editing this because uh
Like once I get kind of dialed into it. I'm yeah pretty fast when I say resize your keyboard. I mean like
like that or like that
or like That or like however you want basically. I mean actually
Resize your keyboard. Oh reset. There we go. Um, I don't mean give me a couple options for if I like to type one-handed
Yeah, yeah four presses including getting back to letters. Yes, you're right
So Yeah guys, um, how many times do you change its size? That's the whole point you change it one time
um And if you change phones for example, if you were to go from a regular iphone to an iphone plus
You might be really used to using a smaller keyboard and it may be beneficial for you a
To be able to type more accurately to just set it to a smaller size and b to get back more of your screen space
That's one of the things that blows me away about the iphone 2 is how how undense the interfaces
There is no way to change the home screen layout to be a by-five
tile grid You can't do it. It's just by four. I was like, okay, but I
I don't I don't like that. I like to see more things on my screen. It's like nope. Nope. You can't at least
You can have blank spaces now at least you can have at least you can have blank spaces now moving forward
Apparently you can touch the one two three button and then slide into the normal keyboard area
To get special characters. Okay, let's try that the one two three button
And then slide. Yes, you can so that gives you a relatively limited number of special characters because it uses up a whole row
With numbers, but it does give you the main ones
It's slower, but it's less slower. Thank you helpful. Yes. That's very that's very helpful to know pretty neat
um, I was so disappointed though to discover that
Uh, and yes that works on swift key as well because that is the apple implementation
I was so disappointed to discover that my third party keyboard didn't operate the way that I would want it to because to me
That's kind of the point of a third party like if the apple one is super locked down
I don't really mind that too much as you know, you could install another one
So anyway, there's been a lot of things that have just been
a little slower And a little frustrating, but there's been a lot of things that are really good and I realize I've been really focused on the frustrating things
The easy access to the dictation button is amazing
Regardless of what keyboard you're using you don't have to like long press anything
It's completely separate from the keyboard. It's just down at the bottom and it just works like
Immediately and part of my problem with dictation on this thing is that it's like old and buggy and just kind of a piece of crap
But that doesn't change the fact that I have absolutely appreciated that I also love
The better integration with third party calling apps
On Android Like teams when you're on Android auto, for example, the interface is terrible
Yeah, I don't actually think there's a way to hang up a whatsapp call with my Android phone and my car
When I when when I'm when I'm using Android auto like if I want to hang up the call
I have to tell the other person to do it or I have to like do it on my phone Which you're not supposed to do uh, whereas on iOS and with carplay
The interface other than just saying this is a teams call. This is a whatsapp call
It looks exactly the same as a regular phone call, which is something that I really appreciate. It's a big deal
um care Kakarato says oh, yeah, does it call Yvonne?
Yes, it does Hey, that's a big improvement. So that's something that's pretty big. It won't call almost anyone else
I haven't figured out a fast way to sync my google contacts with it just yet
Oh, well, that's not it. So what's funny is my address book is like, uh, it's like a time capsule
From back when I daily did an iphone. Oh, so I was like
Who are all these who are all these people because I've since purged my address book multiple times
Um, so that's been kind of fun It would be kind of neat actually if there would be a way to be like I haven't contacted this person
Like show me all the contacts that I haven't contacted in over a decade
So and then a purge all but so I haven't okay
I haven't figured out the contact sync thing because it hasn't been a priority. I'm not saying you can't do it
Um, but what happened is they appear to have moved it
So your accounts menu used to be in the settings menu as one of the like top level things
So you could stop it So accounts if I recall correctly and I might be gaslighting myself
But I feel like accounts used to be here
And so you had all of your Like third-party accounts and stuff
Now it's not there Um, and I think the way to sync it is to use like the um
Apparently go under the mail section to find accounts. Yeah, that's what I was about to say
I think the way to say sync it is to use the apple mail app, which I don't use I use the gmail app
So I have a whole paragraph on this as well where I was like
If I use gmail and I had no intention of using the apple mail account
Because of the way they've changed that interface Let me know on this by the way guys. Did it did it used to
Did it used to be there like I imagine it used to because I could have sworn
No, it was just in the top level of the settings menu. There was just an accounts thing
Sam phoenix is saying Linus has gaslighted himself. It has always been that way. It's always been that no
Frey says yes, it used to be in the main settings. Yes
Yes, there used to be an accounts So as someone who hasn't touched iOS in a while
I was able to kind of figure out. Okay. Maybe that's it
But there is no other obvious place to sign into your gmail account
Unless you use the apple mail app, which was not particularly
Intuitive to me. Sorry one second. Yeah
Kin Dij in full plain chat said I wrote an automation that texts every contact I have
Have a great weekend and then I delete every contact that replies who dis
That's actually pretty funny. Sorry, how often do you do that?
Apparently it's you go to oh my god, this is terrible you go to settings apps
And then mail
And then Mail accounts once per year apparently
That's how you that's how you add a system wide account. There you go. That's where they've moved it. Isn't that pretty similar to Android? No
No, it isn't Uh, apparently it's not mail go to say okay. Oh, oh well, this is so much better
Okay, so if you want to if you want to sync your your contacts
Luke don't go to your phone thing not here
Not here. Don't edit here. Don't look for settings. Oh
Uh, how visible was my screen there? Dan not particularly. I can check. Uh, so if I just go to contacts here
There's no way to do it in here because the apple way is that you go into the settings menu
Which of course you can't access from the control center not even by customizing it the fact that they still
Don't offer you the option To have one of the controls be the settings menu is mind boggling settings contacts accounts people are saying yes
No, no, I know. Okay, so you still can't go to settings here
From the control center you can't make one of you can make these things pretty much anything you can imagine under the sun
Whoops. I keep out of control Except settings look at all the options I have here
But one of them cannot be open the settings menu You must access the settings through the home screen and through the settings cog. So then you go apps contacts
And then contact accounts Wait, but it would work in mail too, wouldn't it?
It should work in basically anyone because that should be
That should be an os wide sign in it's the exact same interface it used to be
Oh my god, what just happened Hold on a second. Yeah add account. Yeah, this is the exact same interface that it used to be
It's just that it used to be really easy to find
You're expecting iOS to work like Android. No, I'm not I'm expecting iOS to work like iOS used to work
So that's not really that unreasonable actually
um no
Add a shortcut to control center for settings. It's not there though guys
I Use the open app widget. I don't know what that is
Just passing on information use the open app widget, okay
I'm assuming there's a there's a widget that opens any app on your phone and then you set that widget to
Um settings. Okay, I mean that's how it works. Here we go. No, no. I'm gonna find it. I'm gonna find it
Is it an accessibility shortcut? Maybe It'll be a widget. Can you add a widget? I'm working on it. I'm working on it
Translate voice memo Screen mirroring capture. I'm sure I'm sure it's in here somewhere
orientation lock
Here I'm tired of you guys calling. Oh, here we go. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go
Okay So if you want to open the settings menu in the control center you go down
To shortcuts open app
And you can open the settings app It can't be mad at them for having too many options
After being mad at them for not having enough options There we go
Well, I didn't I didn't say it's too many options
Settings is not an app to me, but maybe that's maybe that's maybe that's doing it wrong. I don't know
I don't think so because settings isn't an app on a mac
Okay, it just isn't it's not a mac though. I know but
I'm just saying you can't you can't you can't point at, you know a platform that literally didn't exist
When settings was not an app on the mac and go, oh, well, that's an Android invention
That settings is an app or whatever like it's it's not like Android invented the idea that settings is not an app
Sure. I I don't mind that too much um settings was
an app prior to macOS 10
Was it really someone I don't I could have sworn there were settings you could change system preferences app
System preferences app Okay settings is an app on the mac. That is that is wild dude
It is still an app apparently that is wild system settings has an icon on launchpad. It is an app
I disagree settings is an app on Windows
Is it Is it control panel is
Kind of can you open it from run? It's more of a folder
I'd say it's what is control panel?
Help me out. I don't know The Windows okay, so Windows okay, so hold on hold on
Oh man, see settings in an app is tough because like
Here let's uh Here let's let's screen let's screen share for a second here. I'm just going to make sure this is muted. Okay. Okay, so line this laptop. Okay, so
This is settings But I wouldn't say that this is an app
You know what I mean Is that settings though? Well, I can change settings, but if I click this
That's an app. Is this an app?
Yeah Yeah, I think so. Okay. All right settings isn't settings is an app then because it's just application
Yeah, okay. So is so everything's an application then
close to it Let's see. Let's see if I can think of something that's not an application
There's things that aren't an application that you control through an application
Sure Would you consider explorer an application? Uh, yeah, you can end the task. Yes
But you actually you actually can't because it'll automatically relaunch because there's so many dependencies on explorer still end it though
Okay, this is true I mean, okay. So by that logic then yeah, basically any process is an app then pretty much
But is it though? Is any process an app luke? I don't know. I don't know either
I don't actually think so because like I don't think like the
Like the yeah the service hosts and stuff. I don't know if I would consider those an app
an application You can replace explorer with another shell. Yeah, okay, okay
Settings on phone isn't an app. What do you mean settings on phone isn't an app?
Yeah, I don't think being able to end the task means it's an app technically
Is there a definition for this?
I think if you look up the definition of app You're just going to find a lot of people arguing about app versus application
And it'll be like 10 years 15 years old when people were still mad about that
Like I don't I don't think we're going to find any useful discourse about this
No, but I just want to see anyways is puffering out. Anyway
Long story short long story short. I am services aren't apps. Yeah, I feel that way as well
But you can end them I was trying to make my argument on like you can end the task
So that doesn't work if services aren't apps anyways long story short
I have a lot to say About my experience with the iphone. He has words
I clearly I think you got to work with Uh, like hoarse or someone on it though to make sure that you're not just like missing something. No, no, that's that's fine
No, I'm not I'm not worried about that. This is rough notes. Yeah. Yeah. Um
Let's see if I uh Man speech detects everything. Yeah. Oh dude
The way it like proactively hounds you about apps tracking you and notifications and stuff is actually amazing
Because you can 100% configure all that stuff on Android. No problem
But the way that it proactively is like, hey, are you sure you want this? Are you sure you want notifications?
Here's the ramifications of the data this app is collecting. Are you sure about that?
Kind of amazing wicked. Oh, I thought that was very cool. Yeah outstanding
also, uh apple and their privacy stuff
Is like obviously correct. I don't remember I don't I doubt this is in the in the doc today, but I was giving through news articles and I didn't read enough of it
So sorry if this is wrong. Um But I think it was like nation state hackers from china or something gained crazy backdoors to something because
Oh, yeah, some government agency was like, yeah, we need to have these no one else will get them
And apple has always been like, uh, yeah, they will Um, so yeah, as we've said in the past, they're definitely correct about that
There there's some things that are like definitely
better about the apple way. Um
But I also have an Android phone and there are definitely things that are absolutely brain dead stupid about the apple way and um
The fact that we don't acknowledge this is
I I just don't even know what to say like luke. Here's a here's an example
So if I want to get into my like bluetooth settings, like I really want to get into my bluetooth setting
So I go my control center ankle swipe. I go. Yeah. Yeah, it's from the corner. You can't do it from the top
Really? Yeah, well, I'm used to that at this point. Okay. I don't agree with it. I think it's kind of stupid
But that's notifications. That's control center
Isn't it just the left or right side of the island not the corner? I don't think so
I think it's just left or right side of the island. No Really? Yeah, look
notifications corner
Yeah, I'm not I'm not a fan. I just I don't know. This just seems weird. I'm not a fan. It doesn't matter. I'm used to it. Sure
Um, okay, so I open up my bluetooth. I long press my bluetooth
I can configure it so bluetooth is one of the main ones that I can interact with right away. Okay, so I go to my bluetooth settings finally up
Why did it navigate? Through the menus like that
Why would it do that? I
Seems a little weird. I don't know. Oh, man
Yeah, apparently luke they're saying luke is right except I just showed you guys I watched them
Oh that time it did it you watched me do it last time. I watched you. Do you just have to be more over?
I thought it was on on this side of the island at all Well, I'm on that side of the island and I just did it. I just it brought down the notification shade
So you just have to you just have to be yeah, you just have to be more over
I I think it makes more sense to be left or right side of the island not
It's it's 75 percent of this side of the screen and 25 percent of the other side of the screen
anyways, whatever
I'm assuming that's because they still want one hand pull down to be able to be done for either one of them
I guess but I there's no way I could I'm trying to think of the reasoning and that I think that makes sense
There's no way I could reach notifications from there
um Yeah, I mean I also don't think I would bother because if I wanted to see notifications
I wouldn't even like unlock it. I I would just do that. Yeah, but what if your what if your phone's already open?
Uh, yeah, would you like quick lock and then
Check that way getting all the way over there for me though with one hand
I'd have to have like a pop thing or something which I would
I would not install on my phone. I don't I don't really like the I'm not a fan of them
I like being able to slide it in and out of my pocket. Yeah, I find it catches on too many things
um The swipe was designed like this before iPhones had islands or notches
Yeah, but apple has like a monstrously big and good development team and I'm sure they could go
I'm sure I wouldn't take that much effort based on how long t9 dialing took
I'm not actually convinced By the way, this thing is causing way more mic interference than just about any other phone
We've ever had on set other than my like clearly broken one. Yeah
That's been a that's been That's that could be a bit of a problem. I don't think you guys are hearing it, but it's very annoying. Oh, do they not hear that?
I don't think so the buzzing. Oh, if they don't right there. Um, it might be processed out. Um, oh, they can hear it
Oh Then that's very loud then. Yeah, that one was particularly I don't think they could hear mine
It was very quiet and sometimes if no one's talking while it happens then
Um, then that'll get kind of gated out. We hear but it's not very loud. Okay. Yeah, it's loud for us
We're direct monitoring. Yeah, it's like quite loud for me
Crazy anyways trying to move on. Yeah, my phone done. Yeah now we talk about how the second video
I'll be using it for a while. Oh, yeah. No, I meant for for this part of the show. What are those? Are you cheating on your normal ones?
What? What? How could you we're not allowed to talk? What?
Why is everyone so like interested in talking about whatever snack I'm having before you got here. They were like
Talking a bunch about the new like gummies. Well, you're you're cheating on your regular
They're still welches. They're just juicefuls. They're like fruit gushers. They have a lady like the
Okay I
And still delicious
All right, anyways, um My man, uh, you had another video get taken down
Yes, how has it was it a month ago since the last one I think so so like none in basically forever
And then two in a month so sharp eyed viewers have noticed that our video about comptia's a plus certification exam
Is no longer available on youtube or Floatplane
Without getting into the exact details of why it's been removed
Let's talk about some of the reasons that it could be more important than ever to watch our videos immediately when you see them
Without naming any names There are a spin dude. There are a lot of ways that
Um a video's ability to be on the internet could be threatened. I think I think that our perceived permanence
um Are the perceived permanence of of videos on youtube or of of websites on the internet or pages on said websites
Is a lot higher than it actually is so some examples of ways that videos can be taken down
Um could be copyright overreach. Um, so, you know, whether something is or isn't fair use
That's something that would have to be challenged in court. That's not the kind of thing that is just oh, yeah
Well, it's fair use and then I yeah, I guess everything's chill
Until a judge decides that something is or isn't fair use. It's just a defense. It's an it's an argument
And I think that a lot of what we do could fall pretty easily under fair use. Uh, for example, we will
And maybe recklessly maybe, um, you know making an informed
You know risk choice, uh, we will we will frequently show like copyrighted films on displays that we're reviewing
From our point of view, we are not negatively impacting the potential market for that film by you seeing a small snippet of it on a display in the background
We are not using a substantial portion of the work
Uh, have you ever had a problem with that? No, I didn't think so. No our our well
What we have had problems with is watching trailers and ads on wancho
Constantly, which again, I would so stupid. I would make the argument is is absolutely fair use as as media
We are covering it. Um, it's if anything going to have a positive impact on the market for the work
It's highly transformative in nature given that
We're not just repurposing it. We are we are discussing it. Um, this is not react content where we're just like
Or chair streaming, you know, like it's it's it's not it's not that. Um, and
And I would I would say that, you know, if we were say for example providing commentary on, you know, a
A class let's let's use the word class if we were providing commentary on a class
And in order to do so needed to get into some of the specifics
I would say that we would probably have a fairly strong fair use defense
But that would have to play out in court and we would have to have both the means and the will to take it to that bitter bloody end
um Some of the other reasons that a video could be taken down
Could be, you know, just like corporate corporate butt covering
And that can often that can often take the form of like a like a legal threat or a letter or a
You know a polite request or you know, whatever it is It can come in it can come in various forms
And in those cases there may not be any solid legal foundation for you know, why a request is being made
But it might just be that You know, there's things that
They don't you don't want to go to court. Yeah, they don't want people talking about and they don't want people seeing and
um, you know, they Feel strongly that you know given enough time and given enough resources
They could find a way to make life unpleasant enough that it's just not worth the fight
And if you have enough time and enough resources in regards to lawyers, you can pretty much always find a way. Yeah, and um
I don't know if I want to get into The example that that I would have of something like that that actually happened in the past before a video was ever posted
Um, I just don't feel like opening that kind of worms because the rule that I made for myself about that particular company
Is that we just never speak their name again? um
So not going to get into that but another potential way that a video could go down is
Not bribery, but just companies paying for problems to go away
I want to make it very clear about this one that that is absolutely not the case here for no amount of money
Would we take down a video? But um something like this did happen recently with the emulator region x
Where as far as we can tell because it didn't violate nintendo's intellectual property in any way
It was fully reverse and engineered region x appeared to be immune to the same takedowns that took down yuzu
um but what seems to have happened was the
The project owner was just offered a bag of money to quietly delete everything and go away
Our discussion question Is it a problem for consumer journalism when companies use copyright protections or other legal tactics to avoid
People criticizing their methods and the material they are presenting
We'll let you guys be the judge
We'll let you guys have a little discussion in the comments in the meantime
What I would like to find out is if I am still a plus certified
Because this so this is this is from last time what's on the screen right now is from last time
Yeah, this is from we need to reach out. This is from last week
So here's here's my certification and we're going to find out very shortly if I need to burn that or not. Yeah
Oh
Hold on. Hold on. No, no Hold on. Hold on
Still active. Oh, I'm kind of disappointed. I want to burn it
I don't think it's going to be active for low
I can tell you that with a fair degree of confidence
Um, maybe the flames will still burn brighter
I believe it is extremely important for people to be able to have
Transparency into how the certifications that in some cases could even impact the hiring practices of, you know, national security agencies
Operate I think that that is An incredibly important thing and I think it is a public good that outweighs
any other concerns I
Have absolutely no regrets about making the video that we do that we did and for anyone who watched it
I hope you enjoyed it, but it is down and it is not coming back
Is all I have to say about from us Yes, there's been precedent set in the past that when this happens, uh, people tend to re upload the things
Well, there's nothing we can really do about that They would have already archived it because we did not keep any copies. No, so even the even the source video files
We do not have them. Oh, okay. Yeah Yeah
I purged them myself. Oh, did you really? Yeah. Good for you, Dan. Mm-hmm people auto archive all our stuff though
No, I command line gone. I don't mean
Internally, oh Or people have like Plex scripts for float planes stuff. Hmm. Yeah
Yeah, yeah, it's pretty well like a bunch of people have it
It's actually kind of inconvenient for our server infrastructure. Uh, yeah, we've fixed apple. Well, we throttled it. Yeah, nice
Yeah, we did that like a long time ago Nice and people didn't notice for a super long time because they're all just running scripts
So it was still downloaded by the time they wanted it right because like it's not throttled that much
I had to ask aj to unthrottle the office
Yeah, what were you doing when you did that though? You downloaded like a ton of stuff
I downloaded every single exclusive. Yeah, so like, okay
At once multiple times Yeah, but that was for work. So I guess you can hit the data. Yeah
Yeah Anyway, if you were looking for a way to help us make up for any losses that we might have incurred for not being able to keep our video up
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Who will pop it up down there so you can shout out your mom or your girlfriend just getting there and hop watching
So you can shout out your dad or your boyfriend. Um
Okay, we actually we actually do have women who watch the show. Yes, it's remarkable to me
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Or who will answer it himself or who will send it to me and luke as a curated merge message
And we're going to show you how that works Sure, I've got a couple here. How do you guys handle a healthy workplace environments in a heavily male dominated industry?
I'm in school for a cs and work in construction as my day job
And it can be hard as a woman being disregarded. Oh, you mean like socially healthy work. How topic how topical exactly
Um I mean ask questions
Yeah It's not always that's I mean, that's that's not always a guarantee you can ask someone
Does this work for you? Are you comfortable with this and they might say?
Yes, they might feel pressured into saying yes in the scenario if you are like their boss or something like that
That's a that's a you got to be careful with that line. Um, I mean one of the things that I like to do is I will explicitly say
If not, that's fine We'll do this instead
So that there's a clear out give the give the other option. I have to confess sometimes. I'm in a hurry and I forget to like
Do every step Um
Yeah, I don't I don't know. I mean I would say I would say that it's not for any it's never for any lack of intent
Or sorry, it's never for a lack of intent to make the environment
Like good, but I mean this is yeah, this is this is a great point poison says seems weird to ask men how they manage
Like making things better for women in a male dominated industry I don't know all I can really do is ask questions because a lot of the time
I just don't fully understand the challenges and I and I can't unless you tell me and
Even if one person tells me doesn't mean that that's going to apply to another person you can't
You can't really like this is why This is why the entire concept of you know sexism or racism is just so fucking stupid, right? Because
Trying to bundle individuals into any kind of bucket is just a complete waste of time making assumptions
You will always be making assumptions. And so um
I know I know one of the the main things I've heard is the whole like people react differently to the same thing
Uh depending on if it's coming from like a man or a woman
So like if you try to be assertive as a man people see it as like
Oh, yeah, good good personality trait. You try to be assertive as a woman and people see you as uh, I don't know if I can say
This word or not bitchy, um Probably I don't know
So I think just try to be careful to not try the one who's always cancelled
No, I'm saying that's oh my goodness. I'm not saying that's a thing
Um, I'm saying that's a that's a line of complaint that I
Have heard people in that sphere discuss being a problem at their workplaces
So try to you know, just treat people the same. So if if someone's being assertive
Treat that person the same that you would treat anyone else being assertive. We have someone. Um
To make this harder to identify I'm gonna say we at some point had someone
A woman in like a supervisory slash managerial basically who had subordinates who reported to her. Um, and
And I remember having to
explicitly Multiple times make it clear that my expectation was
Forthrightness and pushback
Like to me um And that like
Like that was good And anything else was not good because it's it's possible. That's another thing. It's
Everyone comes into every single conversation ever with their own custom baggage
So that person may have gotten a lot of pushback for that type of thing in the past
So you have to try to make sure that they understand that that's like something that you Exactly
I'm not saying it's a bad thing that that I had to say it as I well it is
It's a bad thing that this individual had experiences in the past that led
To that not being something that they could assume is there is their right in the workplace to
to Give their opinion in a in a in a
I wouldn't say like not forceful, but in like a
I don't know in like in a in a confident manner in a in a in a assertive
Yeah assertive manner because that's totally fine and that should be totally fine
And you can you can say something assertively but still be open to feedback on it if that makes sense
Yeah, of course you can you can confidently hold the position and say it assertively
Yeah, and look, I mean something Yvonne tells me all the time is that like I
I I tend to Overpower the conversation sometimes whether it's intentional or not by just being confident in my position
being kind of loud being kind of energetic and and
um And kind of bombastic in my body language and bombastic and and so she'll say like look
Whether you're intending to or not you can kind of make it hard to talk to you sometimes
And so you know in those in those situations. It's something that I have to be like actively aware of
And go like okay. This is a this is a modern thing for Linus. I've seen him do it. Here's my here's my take
And this is why I think we should do it But um you guys go I'm not married to it. Yeah
And he'll do the he'll sit back Because he's like physically removing himself from the conversation because if he doesn't he can't help himself
Well The thing is that a lot of the time the answer is obvious to me
Which is a blessing because I can come to the answer really quickly
But also a curse because I can be wrong like anybody. Yeah
um And you also kind of need everybody to get there
um And you know in some scenarios someone might get there before you do and other scenarios
Uh, you might get there before them and you need everybody to get to at least a similar spot
You might not get a hundred percent agreement across the whole board, but you need everybody to be
E buy-in. Yeah buy-in is a word that matters to me a lot because
Whether you're talking disagree but buy-in. Yeah, if you're talking to a supervisor if you're talking to a subordinate
It doesn't matter you need to get buy-in or you're never going to get anything done
Because they will either undermine you or override you if you don't have buy-in you have to have buy-in
That's why I mean I've talked about this on the show before everything is sales life is sales
You're selling everything you're selling yourself to your potential partner. Uh, you're selling yourself to
you know the You're selling yourself to your current partner hoping you stay together. Yeah, it's always sales
Sales never stops You're selling yourself to you know the interviewer
You're selling yourself to the you know the freaking the waiter at the restaurant
Why should they give you good service? Why should they why should they pay attention to you? I know it's that job, but like
That's a good customer. Yeah Yeah, because like the I don't know the I find the easiest way to
Have service workers go above and beyond
When they're serving you is to just not be a giant
They have to deal with them so often That if you're just like refreshing and you're not rushing them too much and you just kind of chill in like usually they're super nice
Because so many other people are jerks pretty much everyone in the world is nice if you're nice to them
Yeah, it's it's a pretty cool life hack. I mean there are exceptions, right? Sure like there are just you know
Maybe they're just having a horrible day or there's just like your fault filthy racists
And you happen to be the wrong color and walk up to them. Yeah
You know like there's not much you can do about that
Yeah, um Yeah
Don't be addicted people who handle your food. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, or I mean just anyone
Yeah
It's it's just honestly way Less stressful of a way to go through life
All right, Dan, um You got anything else heavy for us or maybe something later. No, it's all lighter after this nice
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Yeah, no horse in this race at all by 400 of each of them. That would be cool
Yeah, then we might get graphic ones or other stuff, right? Yeah, if these do well. Yeah, uh, let's see
Something a little lighter. Uh during the massacre that happened in oh, no wait, hold on
I'm building a computer to attach to my tv. Is there a good way to have it automatically wake or turn on when turning on the tv?
That's a good question
Does does does see what's it called? See whatever see whatever see what's uh, what's the stupid HDMI control thing called?
Um, I can't think of a way. I think HDMI c e is it c ec? I think so
Yeah, yeah c ec. Um
Does c ec work On consumer graphics cards
Not that I'm aware of hook up that power switch to that computer
Oh, I mean, yeah, you could split the line to an rf signal You go blind by like a do both you could buy like a universal remote or something like that
Like I've still got an old harmony that Is like my one button power everything on but I think they're asking for c ec and apparently some Intel nooks
supported it You need adapters, but that won't wake it
Interesting. I don't know man. I mean c ec is such a flaming pile of garbage
As it is like even on devices that support it properly I wouldn't imagine that adding some like weird accessory
That like has HDMI passed through and can also like plug in an Ethernet cable with the magic packet or something like I wouldn't imagine that's
Gonna work
I have a switch bot that presses the button connected to home assistant
Yeah, the fact that that is the solution tells me everything I need to know
I remember with the follow-up bomb. I just split it so that it played the like toy bomb sound and turned the computer on
So you just make it do both So you open up your tv
You find the power switch circuit you splice your computer power switch into it
You're pressing you're you're pressing the power switch on your tv. They're using a controller, right?
You can open that controller up um
That is a terrible solution. Oh, it's awesome
I like the way luke works man after my own heart
It's totally doable got a string attached to the breaker for the living room
Hot glue the power button down on the pc
Danthony says it works on Linux Sure, but I don't have three days to learn how to do it. So that's that's tough
That's pretty tough I turn on my tv and use moonlight to wake up my pc. Yeah, there's lots of there's lots of different ways
And none of them are what you were asking. So I think the answer is no
It's kind of looking that way. I'm sorry unless a wire running from the remote to the computer. Okay, that would be hilarious
Oh, definitely work though. So you actually just like
When you press that button you like put two leads on it that are just they just short and turn on the computer
How about a foot switch out underneath the couch the problem is with anything like that because it's a momentary like like short, right?
Yeah, I turn my computers on with the Screwdriver all the time. That's actually not bad. You could just get another remote for your computer
Silverstone has that little remote you could do a clapper, you know to turn the lights on and off and it closes the switch
Uh for the pc you do like a really sick going rocket league and cheer for yourself
It just turns off just hibernates. Well, you could disable the power button to like close down in
Windows I vote for this. I use uh that looks like great. Yeah
For my lighthouses. I have those like remote things. Yeah
So you got to pull this apart hot glue at the back of the other one from inside the
The controller and put it in In your tv remote, which is somehow big enough to house this. Don't worry about it
So you 3d print a new tv remote housing
Yeah, that sounds like even more work than a lot of the other stuff. No, I want to do this. It sounds awesome. Oh my god
Weekend project. I'll uh I'll have done until half have finished and then I won't be able to use any of my living rooms
Sounds like a pretty good weekend Who needs a living room when you have this project to pay attention to you've just described the last 15 years of my life
It could be like Sebastian's room if you guys watch the
Fantastic video. It's a pastions. Uh AMD ultimate upgrade thing
Um where he has 10 million projects going on, but it doesn't look like it
That was very impressive
I think he might have tied it up a little bit for us. Maybe
Maybe Question for you. Hmm
I asked you to watch a particular video on the channel
Did you watch it? What video I don't remember this at all how to get a 500 dollar motherboard for 50 bucks
Oh, yeah, the motherboard resurrection. That was awesome. That was like that was a sick video
I didn't remember that you even asked me to I happily watched the whole thing. That was probably the most fun
I've had shooting a video in a very long time
Genuinely very entertaining to watch absolutely stuff that like I think it has the you know
The spirit of why we started doing scrapyard wars where it's like
You're finding watching the value ticker. We have
Had historically a problem of our videos having like trackable elements in them
and being able to watch like like alex updating you with like
How much money you've saved versus how much money you spent as you go through was mind blowing the the level of
Wow, that board is Mangled and then you were able to fix it was mind blowing and the
Lack of expense in the things required to fix it. Yeah that that uh, whatever
Yeah, that thing it's like a hundred bucks under under a hundred bucks. I think it was 70 or something
Yeah, by the time you pay shipping and taxes it's like you're under a hundred bucks. That's not cheap
But you buy a broken board you buy that you fix it now you have this tool permanently
And you just saved money on the board. Yeah, it was still cheaper
That was super cool. There's been a bunch of videos that have come out lately that I've just organically
Wanted to click on and watched the whole thing and was like, wow, that was really good
You guys have been doing great. Well, thanks. Yeah
Yeah, no, that was that was a lot of fun and the editors have been doing a great job
They've been putting in the extra they've been putting in the extra effort on those like you said those trackable elements
I think that was way better in scrapyard wars 9 than previous ones
Like tracking the budgets and like what deals we're working on
That was one of the reasons that first of all the first one was was delayed
And then second of all one of the middle episodes was delayed because I basically sent it back and I was like
Guys, you've done a great job With the time that you had
Here's more time Go to a greater job because it it needs that and there's another one coming soon
That was also sent back to the kitchen for
I asked for about 10 minutes to be removed from it And then I also asked for the tracking to be to be updated a little bit
So it was a little clearer what people are talking about but the good news is that the final cut is awesome
They they finally did it You know how we've talked a thousand times and I've rejected the idea a thousand times about doing like a pc build challenge
Just instead of going out and buying stuff just using our warehouse
See who can build the best pc out of like the parts we have here. So
Credit to david he came up with a way to make it not stupid. Okay, because you know how my response was always like
Well, okay, it's just it's just like go get the best thing like that's not that's not a challenge
There's no way to win. There's no way to lose. You just
Get stuff and build a computer. It's not relatable. Is it all broken things? They had no internet
Okay, so they weren't allowed to look up pricing or information or specs or anything
They had a $1,000 budget with penalties for going over
And the goal was to build for going over do they have to guess the price? Yeah
So it was it was an are we out of touch video
So they had a pretty good angle. They had to know the price with no internet access. Wow, and then they had to um
Sorry, what was the third thing that said that no internet they had to oh, yeah, and they had to have the best performance possible
So the best performance don't go over budget. You can't research online
So it was like Oh and to get parts because there's a lot of things we only have one of it was a draft system
So they were given 45 seconds Team one to go grab a part team two to go grab a part team three to go grab a part
Then team three goes again then team two then team one
and So there were cases where
Someone wanted something that was gone. Someone got the board. I wanted uh, it should be really good
I think the I think David and I talked about it and we agree that the original like 32 or 35 minute cut is good
But my issue when I talked to him about it was like look
There's two great videos here There's one that is super driven by personality and there's one that is super nuts and bolts on the hardware
There's only room for one video on the in the youtube cut
It's got to be one or the other and so that's why we ended up and I kind of went which one is it?
Yeah, it's the personality one. It's the it's the engaging fun version
So what I think is going to happen is I think we're going to get the
The the youtube cut on youtube and I think we're going to get like the david snider
Cut nice on Floatplane nice Um
Sick, so I think that's I think that I think that's the right way to kind of not have that footage just lost to the ether
um Have people be able to enjoy it because there is a little bit more
Analysis and thought process behind some of the parts
But sometimes I was just like I was watching it and I like I could feel myself tuning out because of how many
you know first word latency
Uh balancing act of the CL whatever like not that. I was just trying to come up with something that was kind of jargony, but basically just a lot of
Wiffle waffling about which one to get and and and discussion
And if you are super super super techie, it'll be really interesting
But for the other Two million people that are going to watch the video. I think it's just it's not that engaging. So we had to
We had to give her the ol
Anyway Kaboom pow says I've never heard so much joy out of Linus than in that motherboard repair video
This man loves getting some deals That's part of the reason why it was fun to watch that was like you clearly cared and really wanted to make every one of them
Work dude, which mirrors how you would feel if you were actually just doing this dude making every one of them work
Was not the goal That was not the plan fair, but you cared about making every one of them once it was attainable. Yeah, I wanted it so bad
Once it felt like it was in reach dude, I would have been happy if I got half of them
I would have been thrilled. Yeah, if I had done half of them Well, I think you still would have been profitable on half. Yeah, I think so. Yeah pretty sure
And some of them weren't like crazy deals either
They were all pretty good But some of them were clearly better deals than others, which is fine
Like if if you were really trying to do this and like make money off of it, you could
you know Spend be a bit more picky about certain I think purchases
Um, but it was it was the right decision for the video to try to like push the line a little bit
Um, Steve J3D says I love the $50 motherboard video didn't like the we try and break things for fun when you posted the other day
We did not try to break things for fun In fact, as far as I know nothing was broken that motherboard had issues already
They didn't affect our ability to like play a game and run Cinebench the indulging thoughts one
Yeah, not when you sprayed water all over it while it was running that didn't break anything
Okay, and none of the parts that we were using for any of the actually that one might have but none of the parts that we were using were
Not it was clearly mentioned in the video that those were all parts that were like already having issues and were on their way out
Yeah, yeah, so so don't uh, yeah, don't don't overthink it
We are not about destroying perfectly working stuff here
Um, and so there's been a lot of pitches over the years that would result in
hardware dying That would have been videos that would have gotten millions of views that Linus has said no to just throwing that out there
Shraft 2k says thanks for jacking up ebay mobile prices for their foreseeable future
This is a criticism that we get a lot. Um, you know every time we kind of he might be getting but
Sorry, he might just be ribbing you but yeah, maybe it but it's it's a criticism
We legitimately get a fair bit whenever we do a video about something that's kind of like a
Like an open secret but like a or like a you know a niche community
Or our niche community. I think probably the best example of it was Windows 9
Oh, yeah, when we oh, yeah, when we talked about that modified Windows
8 iso that was super cool and and all the bloat was stripped out
At a time when Windows 10 was still kind of a steaming pile of garbage and people didn't want to migrate to it
that project probably
Directly because of us highlighting it
Came under pretty intense scrutiny from microsoft now I believe since then they've kind of risen from the shadows with a different method
Where you download the iso from microsoft and then you download a modifier script from them instead of
downloading the modified iso because that was microsoft's problem. You were downloading Windows
from them which is
Bad kind of but here's my here's my counterpoint
I didn't post that on the internet
um I didn't make microsoft's terms of service and copyright and you know intellectual property protection
um And what is my job if not to talk about what's going on in tech and sometimes it's going to
Sometimes it's going to make You know the prices go up on used hardware or sometimes it's going to
Draw unwanted attention to a to a project
but like Isn't isn't it my job to talk about what's going on in tech sometimes it's going to cause
Sometimes it's going to cause problems for me careful. We have to burn that you can't break it yet
But like that's my job, right? Isn't it? Yeah, no, I mean I defend it
I defend it and to be clear sharp was just rubbing you or shraf sorry
And I think we're going to have a video coming and that's actually the main reason why i'm addressing this
We're going to have a video coming that there's going to be a lot of people
Coming after me for oh for that We will be shedding a light on something that
Is super cool for techie people to know
um But is like uh, it's like a secret that techie people know and I think you and I are kind of aligned on that
We don't have secrets. We have information for the people and that's our job
and I don't even know what this is, but yeah, I agree with that. Make sure you watch the video when it comes out. Yeah
Because I don't know if it's gonna last. Do I know what this is? We'll see
No, I don't think so. Okay. Okay. Yeah, I don't think so. I don't know. We've been I've been feeling kind of I've been feeling kind of irreverent lately
Not gonna lie one second
I spelled it wrong
I've been feeling I've been feeling a little
You know Fuck it
I liked the the video That recently got taken down because I'll refer to it that way to add a little bit of buffer because there's technically two videos
That recently got taken down. So who knows? Um, yeah, because
That's been that's been a Laughed about non-secret for so long. Yeah, and but
There's always new people entering the space. Yeah, so it's also a question that I've received
Forever like since I was a kid people are like, is this thing legit? Yeah
No, no one cares. So it's like
Yeah, I don't know. I'm down with it. I was down with it when it happened
I think how everything went was fine personally Luca asks, are you trying to get canceled Linus?
dude
If I was trying to get canceled, you'd know
I don't know man. We talked about this a few weeks ago. So I'm not gonna like get into it again or anything
But I think I'd be I think I'd be a little more difficult to
You can't kill the undead Yeah, that's
That's gonna say we already came back from the sticks like
Oh man Like it is it is no it is no secret that
You know, we have you're kind of a bard You're close to a bard. I thought they died when you gave them healing damage
Like works backwards for undead Like it is it is no
It is no secret that after july of last year
Uh, we experienced a precipitous drop in viewership and therefore
Our bidness
That we have these graphs are super informative of like how channels work
What things impact their their success and their their non-success and
Yeah, they're they're I think people would have a a surprisingly fun time
Actually just poking around social blade and like seeing how different channels do things. Yeah, it's it's genuinely
Surprisingly enlightening. So this is 28. Oh, this is this is this is 30 days. So we are
We are not there But boy, are we ever but that's a line that's going up boy. Are we ever we are ever tracking back
Yeah, and you can feel it man. The videos feel good. Yeah, I know I've been saying that a lot on land lately
But like they actually just do no the vibe the vibes feel good. I think it's uh,
I think it's uh, I think it's I think it's good. I think things are good. Oh, whoa, dude
What up What is this?
Streams with sarah announcement Floatplane exclusive merch. Yeah, you didn't know about this. I did not know about this. Yeah
It's cool. What am I what am I looking at? This is 48. What the what the heck is going on? What is this video?
I have not watched this
Where did we come from? I don't know but that was the timestamp we were at. Why did
Um What am I even what did what did they have me saying? I don't know
Uh, okay. Well, you know what sure I think the idea is basically that she's going to be streaming on Floatplane and
She's going to take community input on a design. Um, and then I think
I could be wrong about this It's going to say in the post so you should really just read the post
But I think that's going to be a Floatplane exclusive shirt
But it doesn't mean that the design is going to have like the Floatplane logo on it necessarily unless a community asks for that
Um, and she riffs on it in a certain way. Um,
Maybe I should just read the post
Is then the first Floatplane exclusive merch live you can also contribute to the design and chat. Yep
This is the clip Linus and luke will react to today on wan
But there's an early access to our fellow floaties. Are we doing that today?
I don't I think we want to jump the gun Oh, I think this is the early access
Maybe well, okay, then
Great job Uh, yes, we were supposed to react to that on land. So maybe we should get audio and get that going. Uh, okay
Hey conveniently, we already made sure that audio works if we're watching videos, uh on the computer
Machine, uh, okay, cool. Did you I fixed it? We did from dance
Sure and make sure Okay, um
Hey, sarah Let's do Floatplane exclusive merch. I'm Linus and I love badminton
I'm also the average height for a canadian male my age
That's a weird thing to say, but sure and make sure to stream it on Floatplane. It'll be lots of fun
Uh, okay. Um, I'll stream it next thursday. I love eating chicken
star
And you guys can help drop by at 10 a.m. And no
Where we'll be making our first ever Floatplane exclusive merch. See you there
Linus you paid people to make that
I didn't Linus media group incorporated did
Who owns most of that I would never have done that Who owns most of that me the whole crazy
Oh, that was great
I love eating chicken starfield My goodness, I think you like eating hot sauce with chicken. Yeah. Yeah, it's an important part of the equation
Yeah, I'm gonna be setting that up. That's gonna be so fun I think it's gonna be we've done a few of those sarah has done some in the before I think the
Gone fishing original one. Yeah done on a Floatplane stream
I think the privateer shirt was designed on Floatplane stream as well every halloween. We do pumpkin carving one exclusive
No, no, this is this is using our connector to the LTT Store. So you'll have to does that finally work
It's always it like exclusive exclusive Uh, no, I mean does it work on like the store side though?
I know Floatplane has supported the feature for a long time But like do we finally have integration between the store and Floatplane? We've had that since ltx 2023
To like to do what though to To make it so that okay, so it goes it's one directional
Yeah, so you can log into the store. It's got that one thing using your Floatplane account and then there it doesn't know
It's beautiful exclusive things given to you because you have it's the best feature ever
Because you've been authenticated as a Floatplane user. What we still don't have
Um is like if you buy something on LTT Store, you are granted something on Floatplane. It doesn't go the other way
It just goes Floatplane to LTT Store not LTT Store to Floatplane
We do want to do that eventually, but it's far far far far far roadmap. There's
Uh, there's many things we need to do that are high priority from the both the users the creators and the the people running the service
That want done before we would be able to get to that got it. Yeah
Making it clear before people like where is it? I want it. It's like no
It's probably not coming for a very long two percent cashback rewards on LTT Store from Floatplane subs when yeah
No time soon Ever Let's say that. All right, that will never happen. Cool
Full plane is too cheap That we would just lose money
Oh, I subscribed a Floatplane for one month and then bought all the different screwdrivers and a backpack and then unsubscribed. Wow
I just made so much money It's only two percent if they buy a bunch of stuff. I think we still win
Well, if they have a grandfather
It's three dollars. That's true. And there's payment transaction fees and stuff that we lose
Yeah, the the og subs are like really not
profitable They technically are are they? Yeah
Because certain costs of things have gone down. Oh, I see. Yeah. Okay. I think the last time we talked about it
It was break even at best. It was basically not so much. Well, it also depends like do you do you account for like dev time?
I mean, yeah, then probably not. Okay, so but the rest of them are so we're good. Let's go
It's fine. It's everything's fine What about us ten dollar ballers luke? Uh, yeah, you guys are great. Thank you. Well, thank you very much
Yeah, mind you with how much you watch the streams. I'm not sure if you individually are
Streaming basically just completely destroys the business model
Not that you shouldn't watch this. Yeah, you should watch the streams You should watch on Floatplane
But uh, yeah streaming is super expensive the sickest combo
Is the watches the entire wancho stream every time and every other stream that happens on the platform og sub
Oh, yeah, that one's the like that's the money loser right there. That's a gamer move
Yeah, yeah, not that you shouldn't do it. Go ahead. We are doing fine to be super clear. Yes streaming is don't not use the platform
Streaming is very expensive compared to vaude. It can't be buffered essentially if you want decent latency, which I think we have on Floatplane
um That's a big part of the problem
And the beta site now has manual controls Manual controls. Yeah, I've been telling people in the in the full-point chat all day
What do you mean by manual controls? We had a player limitation for a long time where for live streaming it was just auto quality
Oh, and people didn't like that because sometimes it would jump too much. It would switch too often
So on the beta site, we added manual controls. You're doing right. I'm not on the beta. You're doing real time
conversion. I thought you weren't What you said switching qualities. Oh for live streams. Yeah
You do not what we're pushing up what people are taking down. Oh, okay
Okay Oh, look at that. Oh, yeah, there you go
So that's the thing now. My understanding was that you had to real time transcode all of those at the same time
Does that still happen? Yeah. Oh, okay I thought you weren't doing that. That's why we're not doing that
Someone is don't worry about it. Yeah
Basically, it's not really it's just it's not going to be very interesting for speaking of sites that use someone else's underlying technology
Oh, no her tea. It's jack. Don't her tea
We're talking about this Internet personality jack. Doherty. This is in the dock. Yeah a 21 year old who's primarily known for controversial prank videos
Crashed his McLaren during a live stream this past weekend
Footage of the incident appears to show him speeding in rainy conditions while glancing back and forth at a phone in his hand before
He loses control of the vehicle crosses multiple lanes of traffic and hits a guardrail
Doherty continued filming the aftermath of the accident
His cameraman Michael David who was sitting in the passenger seat had his head injured in the accident and later received stitches
At one point in the footage from the crash site Doherty hands the device to David who is bleeding from head wound and instructs him to continue filming
When another young man suggests that someone else should take over filming from David seeing as his face appeared to be injured
Doherty prevents anyone from taking over instead giving the concerned man another device to film with and telling him to make it look good
Some images that mr. Doherty posted to instagram appear to show him posing shirtless with the wreck
Note that he was wearing a shirt when the accident occurred
Some online observers noted that Doherty Reuploaded edited clips of the aftermath of the accident, but not his actions immediately preceding the crash
So it wasn't obvious that he was on his phone This is why this is on topic streaming site kick has removed
His account and given him a lifetime ban for violating a community guideline prohibiting reckless behavior and the endangerment of others
So this is actually what I want to talk about
Have we found the line And if this is the line
Why wasn't the line Setting off fireworks indoors
Oh, did that happen or not not from, uh, whatever his name is not not from jack. No, but somebody that's definitely something that has
Actually occurred. Did you see the stuff that happened at twitchcon? No. Oh, yeah
Why kick streamers are just like straight up harassing people at twitchcon
Cool. It's very cool Very cool. Very cool. Uh kick is not microsoft d starfire
Not that uh any form of content creation is honestly like just a a bastion of perfect people
No, but I I think kick has a has a pretty bad rap for a reason
um And the fire the in the indoor fireworks thing was actually not
That was that was not on kick. I think that was on twitch Um, so I guess I guess the conversation is like have we have we finally
Have we finally reached the line because as indoor fireworks thing that was ksi, right? That was a that was fake
Uh, someone definitely actually did it at some point I don't know who. All right. Um
The ksi one or not ksi. Yeah, sorry kisonat
That one was I think it was a mr. Beast in kisonat thing and it was faked
Yeah, some someone someone definitely did it at some point. Um
Apparently I show speed actually did it. Oh says chat. Okay. So cool
Anyway, the point is that as someone who grew up in the generation of
Like when I was when I was a kid heading into adolescence and teenagehood like cky
To become a man you have to crash your McLaren jackass
Tom green this kind of like this kind of shock do anything humor. Yeah, um, I've kind of watched it
Progress to the point where you know, we stopped doing these things under professional supervision on closed courses
Uh, we started doing more and more not just insane, but
Inane things. Um, I saw this really unsettling footage of uh, someone breaking their back doing the milk crate challenge
Um, what is that? You stack milk crates to make stairs
Okay, like you know those square milk crates and then you see how high you can go
Except that the problem is that by the time you're high enough that it's unstable
You're like six to eight feet up and if you fall onto milk crates
Um, that should give you like a pretty good idea of what's going to happen
um And I guess I've just been kind of sitting here patiently waiting for either people to get smarter, which
I'll probably be waiting a long time. Yeah, or for whether it's platforms or regulators or parents
I don't know for someone to kind of say
Hey, okay. Um
That's the limit That's the limit there
It's time to stop
And is is is this finally it so operating your phone while driving is the limit
Well, the thing is that I don't even know if that's
And to be clear it was it's dumb and reckless and it's because you're streaming driving poor conditions and operating a phone
and then I think That's already bad
But I think it's sort of which parts are bad because we've recorded videos while driving. So is the streaming portion bad
It's the flagrant disregard. I think for any kind of consequences
Um after the fact that's an impossible thing to measure
No, it's you're right. It's it's totally impossible
To measure. I mean, it's it's a compound problem. I think context menu. I think kind of nailed it any one of those things
You know, I I would say is Compared to the kind of stuff people other people are streaming online, right?
Because we're not talking about whether those things were wrong and bad Absolutely wrong and bad
What we're talking about is streaming while driving wrong and bad the line
I don't think it has to be I think if you have a fixed gopro on your dash
And you're it's basically the same thing as like It's basically comedians in cars or whatever. Yeah, like Seinfeld like I don't think
Because I don't think we I don't think I've ever been in a compromised position driving around for scrap at worse
There's like it's it hasn't There's this there's this like super low budget Canadian show that I only know about because it was on while I was in a dentist chair
And I couldn't get away from it. It's called like cash cab
Or something like that. Yeah, here we go. Is it? Oh my god. It's an american show. It's actually a whole thing. Well
There was a there was I have no idea I
Okay, well it was definitely on a Canadian channel and they were definitely driving around a Canadian city
And it was like the production value was garbage Um, so I think it must have been like a Canadian ripoff of it. Oh, yeah, cash cab Canadian game show
It's called the same thing, but there's a Canadian one. Yeah, and it's like probably worse because it seemed pretty bad
Anyway, 200 plus episodes eight seasons. Yeah, whoa. Yeah, the Canadian one. Yeah, anyway
Um, you're really trying to get cancelled. Come on. Okay. Look. I'm not saying that
Okay The point is The point is that clearly they're driving and like
Doing a trivia show So it can be done. Um, yeah
But not in poor conditions Not while also texting not while not in poor conditions
So you can't like this is I think this is the line I keep coming back to is like
Does that mean that we can't film for scrapyard wars while driving when it's raining?
Because like I I don't personally see the difference between streaming and recording of odd
I think we'd have to use our game sense. No, there's a big difference between streaming and recording of odd because
With streaming. Okay here. I'll show you the difference between streaming and recording of odd. Sure
Well, no, because you don't have to go on your phone. I'm showing you the difference
You don't have to go on your phone. Well, I'm showing you the difference
Okay, uh, so continuing with the show I can take a break
Gotcha, if I if I need my focus just be a bad streamer and take a break though, but you won't because when you're streaming
Right, but how many what's your what's your typical concurrence? Okay
Like you're not fighting algorithmically for for for relevance. This is my thing. You don't care
And so when you're streaming there's this constant pressure to be on to be talking about something to be changing the subject to be
You know changing what people are looking at. Oh my god, it's producer Dan. Oh and he's gone. But like I think that's I think that's my
Where I said like you don't have to go on your phone because like if you're streaming you're gonna want to see chat
But someone else could see chat someone else could be producing someone else could be doing these old things
Someone else could be making sure that there isn't gaps in the entertainment of the stream
But that's the problem is they didn't so it's a compound problem
Sam it has streamed while drifting and not had a problem
Yeah, and and so I'm not saying that just Being on stream is necessarily a problem
But you have to have the game sense and that to me is the difference with a vaude with a vaude
I think it's easier to turn on your game sense and go
Uh, okay. I got an update for you
um I got a we got emerged onto the highway
Let's let's let's do it when we're on the highway Because like I've I've had that kind of back and forth with my camera operator where
Like okay, one example was I was going somewhere where I didn't want to dox the person. I was traveling to yeah
And so I was like, okay, uh, I've got to get right down
There's there's a few things I want to address in this next clip if you can note those down
Um, and then I'm going to turn around on this highway
So that from the last shot that they see we'll be going in like two different directions and it's going to be super bamboozly
Um points if anybody like noticed that in the video. It was pretty funny. Uh, anyway, um, so so let's let's do that
And then and then you know what? I'm not gonna I'm not gonna lie to you guys, especially because in earlier scrapyard wars
You guys probably saw me on my phone while I was driving anyway So I'll like glance at it and then okay. Let's do the clip while we're just cruising at highway speed
I am a very defensive driver. So I will I will typically not have anyone on either side of me
I will always accelerate past someone or brake to be behind them. Like I never had someone feel so uncomfortable. I hate it. Oh my god. Um
I apparently got a ticket and left it in I forgot about that. I don't remember that at all. That's hilarious. Um
Anyway, so so I tend to be a very defensive driver that doesn't I I'm not saying good driver guys
I'm saying defensive driver. Uh, I don't like to be near other things that are moving
um And so if I'm at cruising speed and there's nobody near me
No, I don't think that it's going to be the end of the world if I if I like glance toward my glens
For for a second or two, you know for emphasis or you know for whatever it is that I'm doing hosting the same thing
Same thing as glancing towards your passenger, which everybody does but streaming
Is in my mind a different beast unless you're really in a mindset where you are you're not
Trying to be on the whole time, but so many streamers are
They're trying to be constantly engaging You probably are trying to constantly be engaging because that's how you perform in the streaming world, which makes sense
Um Sigma salt says unless you're ignoring chat, it's over the line a hundred percent. I think that's honestly a yeah, like a good point
Um Where'd it go having his friend recording the aftermath while bleeding also didn't help
Yeah, crystal d said but the issue was speeding looking at his phone
Um and doing that while hydro planning and I I understand that my point is that
If we if we try to draw a line, but the line is like, I don't know then it's not a line
Um, so we need to define the things that that cross the line
So like you're saying like maybe streaming sites should should ban streaming while driving
I don't know. I don't being the driver. I mean can we
I don't necessarily think it's inherently a problem
No, I am a hundred percent certain that even if I tried to be consistently entertaining
I could stream and drive at the same time no problem
I'm a hundred percent confident you wouldn't be able to be engaging in entertaining though
With other people in the car though with the other people in the car and easy
Yeah, easy peasy if if there's no one else in the car. I do agree with you
Yeah, because then you're you know, you're not reading chat unless you're doing something like unless you're like a rally driver
A drift car person Doing something unique if you're driving through a city unless your stream literally is like pov driving through city
Yeah, um, then yeah, I don't know
Try it. I I think I like literally have I I've streamed all snowboarding like I've done
Weird stuff and it's never been an issue for me, but I also have never had that be
My career so I have never cared and if I needed to not be entertaining for a while
I would just not be entertaining for a while. So I also have that benefit which isn't fair
Yeah Is the line just like committing a crime while streaming I'm
That's effectively the line for flow plane. You can't break the law. Yeah, that's what we did. So yeah
Yeah, I guess there's just a lot of things that like
are Horrible but and stupid but not a crime like I know I come back to this a fair bit, but it was just so egregious
Like when doctor disrespect was streaming from the bathroom And I think it was that twitch con or whatever it was. Like I don't I don't
Think that's technically illegal necessarily
But it just shouldn't have to be you know, you shouldn't have to make that law
It should just be kind of obvious And I guess that's the problem for me is that we've got people just pushing
Pushing the the boundaries of what's
um Push based on what is that's what is legal rather than what is kind of necessary and and okay to do
People are saying it's illegal as far as I'm aware. Okay. Maybe maybe it is so then to record in a bathroom
You know, like why was this a permanent ban then and why was that a temporary ban?
I mean, he ultimately did end up permanently banned anyway, but
For a different thing. I think oh, yeah, it was for something else. Um, I don't know man and like
Should Okay, should jack doherty be able to you know, come back on twitch
Or come back streaming on youtube like should
Should because I know that youtube has policies around off-platform behavior
You don't necessarily have to do something on youtube to be banned from youtube. Yeah
Like is this should this just be the end because I don't know guys
For some reason I don't feel like the audience will
Discipline this Oh, no, though. They'll were traditionally they reward it. I've seen people come back from from worse. I don't know
When the lion when we're way up here It's hard to tell what's a farther and what's not farther over the line like stuff
That's just obviously wrong if people were still watching this guy after all the stuff that he's done in the past
I don't think this is going to stop them if anything This was probably top tier premium content
Which is the reason why we're talking about it now and the whole freaking internet has talked about it
And he's getting more press than he's ever gotten before despite all the crazy deplorable things he's done in the past
I'd never heard of him. I'll tell you that much. I have um and
If he's able to be platformed somewhere he'll get tons of views
This is not this is not generally penalized by the internet audience
Um, there's some people that would be like I would yeah, but you weren't watching him
Yeah, like it's not you
Oh Is what it is I worry about the kind of stuff that like not my kids because they
Like I have access to their watch history. I know what they're watching. Um
But like what their peers are watching what if they delete stuff? Um
They are they have demonstrated their truthfulness elsewhere where it wouldn't be possible enough
And as far as they know I can access things they delete
As far as they know right now
In time they'll figure things out better and you know, I won't be able to rely on that but for now
Even in cases where I can't prove it
Um and where I don't necessarily have the power to know exactly what happened
They have shown themselves to be extremely honest and I and I mean that as a parent with my eyes
Completely wide open who knows that children are just little humans who lie cheat steal and will even kill
They're they're they're humans. They're just people. They're just smaller I'm not saying this to to say that the other ones aren't I've just spent more time with this one and
He's older but little man is definitely intelligent and clever enough to figure it out if he wanted to and he has
um he has bypassed parental controls before and we have talked about it and
He did get busted and that's why he thinks that I know
Because I did catch him before and it was a pretty clever workaround
That I was not aware of is it bad that I'm like a little proud
That We can move on
Oh man, I forget I actually forget what exactly the workaround was
I think it was um, I think it was that the
The screen time wasn't counted If you like quickly locked and unlocked the phone or something like that or like I forget what it was
But it was it was a pretty clever workaround
But yeah, no I um
I I He's at the age now
Where instead of the conversation being you need to be 100 honest all the time the conversation is
You need to learn the importance of honesty
And you need to be man enough to be honest at times when it's hard
But no, I don't expect you to tell the truth to absolutely everyone in your life 100 of the time
Eventually you need to learn a lesson that you shouldn't yeah Eventually you're going to need to learn to hold your cards closer to your chest
So we've we've he's headed into adolescence and we've started to have those conversations instead of just I mean it's like there's appropriate
It's like physics, right where you learn the laws of it
And then you're going air resistance and everything you learned was wrong
Yeah, and then you learned that everything you learned then was wrong and then you learned that everything you learned then was wrong
Right like like, you know the early conversations with your kids are you know, it it doesn't it doesn't matter if you win or lose
As long as you try your best Well, you know, probably about a year
A go maybe between a year and a year and a half ago I had to have the first conversation with my son
So it's coming real soon for my eldest daughter that was like, hey what I told you that's actually bullshit
In life it matters if you win
If you didn't win you lost Um, and if you tried really hard
um You still lost
And you know, I think it was I think it was after a tournament or something and he was like
Uh, I was tired and to make my point. I brought up like
Some some someone who lost like a major match
And I was like, hey look, have you seen this?
Uh on the results it says that that the score was this but this guy was tired. Here look
And he goes it doesn't say that I said, yeah, exactly
Yeah Yeah, it doesn't say his tummy hurt because nobody fucking cares
um at some point You're going to need to win and it's not gonna matter. Nothing else is gonna matter if you want to win
Then you're gonna have to leave everything else at the door and you can you can understand as well
Like you can basically decide that it's not worth the effort that you know that you might have to put into this thing in order to win
Then you can be like, okay, I'm going to accept that I'm at a certain level of casualness with this thing
But if you're like, no, this is this is my thing. I must win
Then it's like well then win. Yeah Um put in the effort. So yeah, we you know, and I think we were also having the conversation about like school as well
It's like look You're right. You can you can get a good enough grade
But at some point you're gonna have to decide if good enough is good enough
or If you want to excel
Um because like let's let's be real um
Our kids have ended up with a really interesting mix of
Of well their parents obviously right because that's like how genetics work
And and they've they've got this they've got this fascinating sort of spectrum that they sit on between the
Things that are great about my mind, which is sort of this raw creative dragon energy
And the things that are great about Yvonne's mind, which is this spectacular attention to detail
um And I think they have a lot of potential
But I think they have a lot of the same challenges that
um I had and she had
And that she figured out and that I didn't until a lot later
And that's that it's hard to learn to work hard when you don't have to
And Yvonne figured it out still when she was still in elementary school
Like when she was pretty early she when they when they basically when they started giving out letter grades
Was and she got b's and she was like excuse me. What the fuck? I thought I was an a student and kind of
Cleaned up her act got it. Um, whereas for me
I I don't know. I cleaned it up in late grade nine. I think
But then I completely fell apart. Um when I started dating
just Just yeah
not focused Like flunked out of flunked out of university like hard. I don't think I really got it until I landed at bc it
Because I would get really um
Like touchy about my teachers Like I had a terrible grade in english for reasons that are probably self-explanatory at this point. Um, until I got an english teacher
Until I got an english teacher that was just an absolute bad ass mr. Thompson fantastic
Um And then my english grade cranked and I got into ap english out of nowhere
I was like barely passing for my whole life
And then I got a high a and then ap english the next year and then he was a professional writer
For a while, which was a a choice. Um, and then
And that was kind of similar for a lot of different things in school where like if I had a good teacher
I would get like dialed in and do super well, but if I had a bad teacher I had this
Like well, I don't like that teacher. I'm not gonna try which is stupid. Um
Panda asks made my brain happy hey Linus have any of your kids displayed adhd traits
What do you think
I mean, I don't know man. It's one of those things where it's like how it is neuro neuro divergence, right?
And I think that if you want to be at a certain level of excellence in certain things you probably have to be on extremes
It's somewhere You're probably on some kind of spectrum
Of some sort sick um Hell yeah, and it's one of those things where like
I've I've had conversations with people where they're like, okay. Yeah Linus, but I don't feel bad for you because for you
you know the hyper focus and sort of the inability to
To pay attention to one thing for a long time and you kind of like are you go off on these tangents?
it's like a superpower and And you know for me, it's not like that and it's like yeah
But at some point you're gonna have to decide if you want to make excuses or if you want to win
I was a Yeah That was a lesson I got from my physics teacher. Really? Yeah, I won't name him because
Not a lot of people are stoked about this lesson, but it was interesting at the time Um where there was someone in class there was someone in class. I have I have certain
You know, I can't I can't read all that great, but um someone in class had a
some form of um Learning disability, I don't remember what it was and um
It was it was constant right every single class when we broke it on to doing work this person
Requested help and the teacher would help them never a problem with that. Yeah, and then they they asked for I think
They asked for something else It was like a lower required grade to pass the class or something like that
Um, and he drew like an extremely hard line
And he was like no because when you leave this will never be a thing
So like you got to figure it out now, but he's like I'm here at all times to help
Yeah, but like, you know, I can I can help you after class. I can help you on lunch
I can help you on various other breaks if you take a spare period
I can help you during that if I have time I can
potentially help you outside of class like I can give you everything but you have to pass the same bar
um and overhearing that because you could they were like talking in the corner, right?
But you could kind of still hear it overhearing that I was like, huh, okay
I need to kind of shut up about my reading thing and like figure it out and to be clear
Shut up and figure it out. Isn't the right way either not always get support. Yeah talk to people
You know get a diagnosis, you know find resources for me. It was the right thing all yes, and that's fine
But your way your path might be totally different very yeah your path is probably going to be very different
It might also inform like, you know, maybe you should do a slightly different thing
Yeah, I think the our generation was hammered with the like everyone can do anything
You can be anything. Yeah, like literally we were told we could be astronauts. Yeah
I cannot be an astronaut. Yeah, if I had if I had focused
every Every ounce of my being on being an astronaut from the age of two
I would be no closer to space than I am right now and that is exactly five feet six inches off of the earth
Five nine if I jump. Yeah, and I think honestly, I think that advice was was kind of poisonous
um Yeah, I think so too And I I think sometimes recognizing like okay
I am I am clearly not good at this thing even if I like it
Well, there's practically infinite other possibilities in the world
Maybe I should find something else that I like and I can do well
That was something that I really struggled with too many. We weren't exposed to that much at least if I wasn't
Yeah, it was like do you want to be a tradesperson a policeman a firefighter an astronaut or a teacher?
Don't forget teacher. Yeah. Yeah, and like so I just thought I wanted to be a teacher
Because I was like, I don't know my mom's a teacher my five options. Dad's a teacher. My aunt's a teacher
Every adult in my life like I just listed all the things my teachers are all teachers
I didn't know what people went to business school for until I was in like high school
I was like, what do you mean? You just do like these things. Yeah, because it's all anyone would ever tell you
You just have a boss and you just do what they tell you. Yeah. Yeah, like I know I was oh, okay
Yeah, you know you figured out eventually but it was it was a weird time in regards to communication of what like schools and teachers
We're telling you you could you could do when you grew up um
dwindlin says I still don't know what people go to business school for
I think it's for a common sense education, honestly A lot of what people seem to cover there is just like how to interact with people how to how to do basic analysis
How to generate a pretty valuable communication. I know I know
Community how to generate a report. Dude. It's such a huge problem. How to do a meeting. How to sell
It all comes back to how to sell earlier in the show about how you have to be selling all the time
These are these are genuinely very valuable things always be closing
Yeah Um
Yeah Conversely if you find a way to do
Find a way to love what see reading problems if you find a way to love what does work surrounding yourself with others
Okay, I can't read that properly, but yeah, I mean there's there's alternatives to everything right like there's um
There's a guy who who doesn't have any arms and is a uh
Race car drifting person. I think he does literally formula drift and he doesn't have arms
He steers the wheel with one of his legs and then he manages all the pedals with his other like amazing
Super sick made it work. There's routes for sure. I saw this uh, you also have to understand that was way harder for him
than anybody else And there was no like
I saw this incredible video of a mom uh with no arms
lifting her baby Onto into a seat and then like out of it and stuff with her legs
That's so sick Just like from like from a from a chair position like being an absolute bad ass super mom without arms
But like yeah, yeah
And like it it sucks that that's harder for her for sure, but I think
Wallowing and self pity over it isn't gonna help
It might help No Might help I don't think so it could
You won't know unless you try go ahead try
Let's see let's see if it helps go ahead
Okay, all right, uh, what are we doing?
I just want to make it clear that everything that Luke and I say comes with a little bit of survivorship bias as well
Obviously we have powered through and succeeded in our respective fields
And so, you know, it's easy for us to say hey this this worked. This works great
But but I think the most important thing I said was the part where I said
Learn about yourself find yourself know yourself. Yeah
Seek out a diagnosis seek out strategies seek out support and if find your own path if what if the path that you're on isn't working
Um, understand that you can almost certainly find another path. I think that's the biggest thing for me
Um, it's like there's there's things that I wanted to do when I was growing up that I was able to self-recognize like
This just isn't a good route for me And there's ways to win that are not being an astronaut. Yeah, and that's okay. You don't have to win that hard dude
The the need for oh man, if you get into as far as I can tell literally any trade in bc
You will just kill it. Oh, yeah My goodness actually destroy like it's it's
Yeah, and not all of them are like excruciating pain and like yeah like
Requiring a ton of strength like there's a lot of tools that are coming out that are that can help assist with that type of stuff
And yeah really cool ways like if you don't even if you don't like getting dirty being electrician, you know if you
Well, some of them still get dirty. Okay, some of them still get dirty But there's definitely a lot of jobs where you don't get as dirty like you don't you don't have to do, you know residential
You know plumbing repair, you know like there's Yeah, there's lots of trades. Yeah, it's the point that I'm trying to make here. There's tons
Hold on there was something here that I thought was really funny stay the path says
Help but feel like they're talking directly to me
Sorry 1987 Datsun and full plane chat said I'm a lineman in the states
I make over 200k a year the trades are the way I didn't even go to college
200k a year us Yeah, that's like real money
Hey, yeah, like I I don't know there's there's routes There's routes a lot of like people people troll garbage men all the time dude. They make cash
Yeah, and a lot of a lot of the garbage routes. This was I think you mean sanitation professional sure whatever
A lot of the sanitation professional routes as far as I've heard are based on completion not time
So you'll notice how they they often work really fast. Oh, yeah
They get paid the same right so you get a team of people people that are gonna hustle
And they finish this eight hour route in like five and a half
Then you just have the whole rest of the day off and you didn't lose any income kind of a sick job
Like Cool and then if you're a hustler go start a side hustle in that extra two and a half hours every day
And then you're just making major bank I don't know. There's there's a lot of really cool options like legitimately really cool options, especially I find if you look at
Jobs that are like less traditionally attractive
Because then there usually isn't as much competition and when there isn't as much competition it's often
Um, you know you end up making more money for it
So, yeah Um
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All right Dan, what are we supposed to be doing now? I want to I want to show something really quick before we
move on we were talking about, uh, you know being able to do different things and and
Technology moving forward and allowing you to do maybe some more things but blah blah blah. Have you seen this?
Japanese cafe Employees paralyze people to control robots. That's so cool. So sick. That is so cool. So sick
That is so cool. The staff is robots, but they are controlled by people
Actually, so cool. I I love stuff like this
Huh
They're avatars for people with diseases and illnesses such as al s to connect with people while they're stuck bedridden
It's a fantastic concept add it to your itinerary
Dude, my sister a lot just got back from japan. I would have totally told her to go check that out. Super cool
Absolutely love this idea
No ducati there are no plans for an ad-supported Floatplane tier we'd have to build an entire new like ad sales department and
um, no Lee school said uh as a disabled person I find this more dystopian than cool. Really? Oh
I Okay, in this case, it's specifically called out like diseased people though not necessarily
Well, okay duly noted
Um The wordpress. Oh wait, we're supposed to do merge messages. All right hit us sure message for luke fellow listexic here
Have you ever read or heard of the dyslexic advantage?
No, uh, what would be a dyslexic advantage. You also missed part of this merge message
I thought you'd uh have a google of that. Uh LMG crew keep up the good work and who the f is this Dan guy?
Interesting I ain't gonna prompt you at this week Linus
That was very embarrassing. I'm sorry about that Um
Dyslexic advantage. I have to say I have to say this being a book has got to be the most hilarious thing
I'm sure you've seen the font. That's got to be the funniest thing I've like ever
That's like somebody writing an adhd book that's 12 000 pages. Yeah, something like that. Um
I I would be it would be interesting if it was in one of those fonts. That's easier to read
Um, but no, I haven't heard of this. I don't know. Um, get an audiobook. Yeah
Uh reviews are really positive it seems
Wish I read it sooner Interesting. I yeah, I have no idea what it's supposed to be. I mean, have you found an advantage on your own?
No, okay, then I guess you need this book Unless I'm like already doing it and don't realize it or something. I don't know, but it just makes reading harder. Maybe it makes
Cooking chicken easier
Expert maybe maybe you don't know
Up next why does Linus focus on the bill of materials cost when
Arguing a product is an overprice if bomb costs exceed the value to consumers then the product needn't exist
Sales data seems like a better indicator of value
okay so
I Overpriced to me is not a measure of value
It's a measure of the price and the price is the price the price of
Let's say
Man, oh, this is a this is a this is a this is a tough one
Value is subjective Cost and price is not they are they are objective
so if something has a bill of materials cost of a hundred dollars and a retail price of
150 or 200 dollars it is
objectively Priced within the range of what you would expect based on
Uh, how what what uh, what a brand would have to price it at in order to account for all of the various other expenses
That they need to manage within their business all of their administrative overhead
customer service Breakage and warranty and like after sales support sort of all of that overhead that they have to cover
You can typically expect a markup on a product to be anywhere from like 50 to 100 points bare minimum
luxury brands get away with a lot more than that, but that's sort of
pretty pretty normal And and it can even be normal to go quite a bit higher like software companies, for example, we'll have margins
way higher than that so
If you were yeah glasses glasses have have a lot of pharmaceuticals
Pharmaceuticals a lot of margin about pharmaceutical margin and i'm not going to defend the big pharma companies
But the thing about pharmaceutical margin is there is a lot of r&d that goes in upfront
And there is a need to cash in on that. Have they gone a little far?
Absolutely, like I said, you'll never hear me defend big pharma r&d and a lot of things
But there can be especially in the past. I'd say it's less true now
Especially in the past you could work for years trying to develop a drug spend millions and millions and millions of dollars and develop
Nothing like it was a it was a strike it rich or die trying industry
I think that with a lot of the new tools they have for drug development these days. It's it's less like that
But there was a time when it was like that anyway
So so so the so the cost of something and the price of something is just it's objective. It's measurable
The value of something is subjective
And so when you say Sales data seems like a better indicator of value
I would agree with that. I I would agree that if something sells really well
Then it's a good value and if something doesn't sell very well
Then it either was a bad value or there was bad marketing
There could be a variety of reasons that something doesn't sell very well
Actually, there can be a variety of reasons that something sells really well including great marketing and not necessarily being a great value
But yes, I would agree with you that sales data is probably a better indicator of value
But value is up to you. Yeah, or it's up to you. Yeah, or it's up to me. No
What no well for me to make a purchase them and me
Okay, that's it. Yep value is personal
and so if if if I were to say
This water bottle I'm going to price it at
29.99 my cost is $15 you can say
That's overpriced and I can say
You're wrong because it isn't that's just what it costs and you might not want one of these
You might not think that you know the insulated wall matters You might like to drink out of a mason jar
Which you can just get with like the I don't know the preserves that you would normally buy and you can just
You can just repurpose it and that's great. That costs you nothing and that's a better value for sure, but
Um, this isn't overpriced. It's just not something that has a value to use
So value is subjective and price is objective and that's the difference that took an awful long time carry on
Sure Um, I'm at my wedding's welcome party and we're getting married tomorrow
Any advice for the newlyweds on the day of and for a happy life together onwards?
Have fun. Don't
What don't have fun That's all I meant
Don't get married. It's always so cringy when you see those like gifts or whatever of like
Somebody pushing their partner's face into the cake or something like that and then it ruins the whole thing
Just don't don't do that
Don't like don't like push your partner into doing something during the day that they're going to
Uh regret or might ruin their day. I'm assuming uh based on uh, you know demographics of our viewership that this is
A dude, um If your partner is a woman
There's a higher chance that they care about their appearance and stuff
so You know be careful. Don't don't shove cake in their face
Even if you've seen it on a meme and it looked funny and they enjoyed it
Uh, don't risk it ask first
Do stuff like that luke consent tips be careful
It's just a lot of people put a ton of value into
This day, right? So just you know
Chill and be careful. Don't ruin it for your partner who might care a lot
Next ah two or three more topics. What do you want to talk about? How about the word press feud?
Yeah Okay, I'm going to do the background here
Wordpress.org is an open source web publishing project which powers around 40 percent of the top 10 million websites
We assume It is owned by matt mullenweg who is also the ceo of automatic which owns wordpress.com
A freemium web building platform based on wordpress.org
All right A month ago automatic sent a cease and desist letter to wp engine
A third-party wordpress hosting service for using the wordpress trademark on their site because according to automatic wordpress
Excuse me. Wp engine doesn't contribute enough to the open source project
Wp engine sent their own cease and desist letter and claimed that mullenweg told them he'd take a
Scorched earth nuclear approach unless they paid eight percent of their revenue as a trademark fee
Or dedicated an equivalent amount of employee time to the project
mullenweg has since banned wp engine from using wordpress.org servers, which has broken wp engine customers websites
Last week wp engine sued wordpress for extortion
further 159 automatic employees who disagreed with mullenweg's leadership
Accepted a severance package and left the company which this isn't in our notes
But he apparently took to mean that everyone who remained agreed with him, which is
Not how that works
Yeah Uh discussion question is as much as it's a as much as it's good for people to contribute to open source projects
How are people supposed to trust open source projects when the rug can get pulled out from under them at a moment's notice?
Uh, that's true for closed source projects, too. That's just that's just part of life. Um
I don't know. Yeah, it sucks
That being said, um of like all the times in the internet's history. This is the easiest one to pivot off
Um, so as much as it's, you know, terrible
um I'm sure there are services that will welcome you with open arms wicks
How much work have you done on your wordpress implementation though? No, it sucks. I'm not trying to say it doesn't suck. Okay. Um
Just as long as you're not trying to say it doesn't suck because it definitely sucks. Yeah, I know it sucks a lot. Um
Just I I think what I'm trying to say is like I wouldn't just automatically throw in the towel. Um
You might feel like you want to do it right now sure might
And I wouldn't blame you but you know, uh even compared to like a year ago the the internet is more equipped to
Move your business off of wordpress than it ever has been so
There is there is light at the end of the tunnel. Um, I suspect there's even going to be companies that
Pop up that are designed to help you with this. Um, and you know
You might not have the money to go that route. I work for a publishing company says context menu
We have over 50 sites running wordpress with hundreds of custom plugins
Yeah, the custom plugins part is That's
painful Yeah, it's all it's all really rough. Um
Like this could actually be a death blow For certain businesses. Oh, it will be I'm 100 certain. I don't know for how many but I'm sure it'll take a couple of them out
there's a lot of businesses that Uh, you know at a certain point they almost become a passion project and it's like
I can keep this thing going, but that's pretty much all I've got and a below this big is just going to completely take it out
um Watch the fire ship video on it. It was really really good and explain both sides better than your notes did fire ship does good stuff so
I'm not too surprised. Uh, maybe if you're interested in in seeing more on this go check out fire ship
Matt Matt from Labs web says wordpress is an
As awful as a product regardless of drama. Anytime is the right time to move on from it. Uh, I don't I don't disagree
I would I would generally echo that sentiment that being said you don't want it ripped out from under you. Um, you would want to migrate off of it. Um
Carefully and while taking your time and and stuff like that. Um
But yeah, this is this is the the wrong circumstances to be unbudging brady says
Wordpress is the notepad of blog sites change my mind. I won't be able to because you're unbudging but
I liked it Yeah, I also don't disagree with that. Uh wordpress is just uh, I think their their time has passed in my opinion
I know there's cool things that they do and stuff, but that's just
I Speaking of camera the last time I recommended speaking of cool things
I used to make money through wordpress fun fact really. Yeah, I bought a package of wordpress themes
This was one of my many small business ideas that I had I bought a package of wordpress themes and then I would just set up
Info pages for like local businesses and stuff because it was really easy. I have the theme
So it looks nice. I just put their info on it put their logos on it and it was like cool
Look, it's not is what it is It was it was uh, it was simple. It was easy. It was good. It was fantastic at the time
Is exactly what I needed. It was the best tool for the job at the time
And I would recommend moving off of it now Let's move off this topic. Yeah, behold the cyber cab
Oh tesla ceo elan musk part-time CEO held an event yesterday to unveil the company's long promised fully autonomous vehicles
In the form of a new one not the ones he said were fully autonomous before
The tesla robotaxi the so-called cyber cab currently consists of 20 apparently functional prototype vehicles
It lacks any steering wheels or pedals which means it would need special authorization from regulators
Despite lacking any driver and appearing roughly the size of a standard car. It only has two seats
It also lacks a charging plug and will apparently charge wirelessly
musk says that tesla will launch fully autonomous driving in tes in texas and california next year
And that the cyber cab will enter production in 2026
The 10 year anniversary of when he said full self-driving would be available
Though it could be delayed until 2027 musk also unveiled a prototype for a driverless 20 passenger robo van
Which has no official timetable for development or production. And this is a great tweet from 2017
Uh at borah something I forget every two or three weeks a tech guy accidentally invents the concept of
the city bus uh, yes
The event also showed off the humanoid optimist robot again, which musk claims would one day be able to be a teacher
Baby sit your kids and be your friend The bots were shown serving drinks and interacting with guests at the event
But these were apparently at least partially telepiloted by human operators
Following the event tesla stock dropped by 8 while stocks for uber and lyft rose
Cool
Well, good luck with that. I think it looks neat
Yeah, it looks better than the regular cybertruck
Yeah, well, I mean that's a low bar. It's not a truck though. Yeah
But yeah, I think it looks neat. Yeah two seater though. That's um
Kind of a downer what's what's with the like the like star wars shuttle looking version
This one on the right. Oh, no, that's the bus Yeah, okay, so that's what i'm talking about. Not the cyber cab. Yeah, I think the bus looks neat
The cyber cab just looks like a slightly different model x as far as I can tell
And it looks like between a cybertruck and a model x this one. Yeah. Yeah, it's got kind of
It's got that angled butt. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I don't mind it. Sure. I don't mind it looks better than the cybertruck
Yeah Anyway, yeah, good luck everybody to the moon, dude to the moon or through the ground stock just went down in vest now, right?
Yeah, yeah, uh, this is not investment advice
M1 max are breaking since mid 2023 a significant number of m1 iMac users have reported screen degradation
Resulting in a pattern of horizontal lines appearing across their displays
The issue typically crops up after a couple years of use meaning that the devices are out of warranty
Apple has yet to acknowledge the problem. The one user reported that the technician they went to blamed the issue on a flex cable
Powering the lcd burning out because it has to sustain voltage of about 50 volts at the screen's highest brightness setting
Due to how the devices are constructed fixing this issue typically means replacing the whole screen at a cost of around 600 to 700
dollars It is currently unclear whether apple has fixed the issue in more recent generations of iMac
And our discussion question here is and this is this is one that I kind of
Wrote is does apple get an adequate amount of journalistic scrutiny?
Because it seems like in the last 20 years
they have gone from Being covered by professional journalists to still being covered by professional journalists, but also having cultivated a following of fans
Um, I think professional journalism is I think this is almost a different conversation
And it's that a lot of professional journalism is dying But apple is uh, is apple almost uniquely
Plays the game so well at least in the tech space of
of the the sort of the
The praise for access model um
If you if you not only it's not and it's not even as simple as if you say the right things about apple
You'll get invited to steve jobs theater and you'll you know attend the keynotes or whatever. It's it's not that simple
Yeah, it's you have to not only say the right things you have to be the right things you have to you have to
What's the word i'm looking for you you almost have to have the right aura you have to
That is a trend that is Very good. Good job. You've communicated to the the young
You have to personify The ideal apple customer is what you have to do and I um, I almost wonder if that's detrimental for apple
In the long term I don't I don't know if they I don't I mean they get a lot of criticism, but I almost
I like seeing seeing all the seeing all the better things about
iOS 18 right seeing how much better it is
I don't know if it makes me I don't know if it makes me think that they have heard all the things that they're supposed to be doing and then just weren't doing it
Or if they were shut off from it and are finally hearing it like I don't know what it is exactly that
That made them sort of ignore these obvious egregious glaring issues for so long like not being able to rearrange your your icons on your home screen
Stuff like that. Yeah, but people were pointing the issue out even when there was more negative
They were but were those voices powerful enough? I guess is the question
Is apple under enough scrutiny? But are they loud in the right places? Remember? You're not necessarily reading a random
Uh discussion forum on mac rumors if you're if you're a decision maker at apple
Like the people with access the people who can actually talk directly to decision makers
Are they putting the right amount of pressure on them?
Because like i'm looking at this i'm looking at this screen issue, right?
When when ASUS didn't acknowledge the sd card problem with the ally
We weren't the only ones having meetings with top-level executives basically saying you guys need to do this
Yeah, I don't know if anybody holds that kind of power over apple and I don't think apple wants that
Oh, they definitely don't But will that be but will that be damaging to them in the longer term is the question that i'm asking
I have a hard time believing honestly any company wants that. I feel like most companies will comply with that to try to
uh Soften the below. I actually disagree
um, and no company is is monolithic
But there are certainly ones that i've encountered that
value criticism Okay, at a high level. I think what I was pointing out was the the public nature of a lot of the criticism that happened around ASUS
I don't think anybody wants that No, I don't think anybody wants a media firestorm necessarily. Yeah, but I think that
Um, I do definitely think there are companies that really want
Measured good accurate constructive criticism. Definitely. There are there are quite a few companies that like
I don't know if apple does pay money to have that let alone
Just want cmd. Karini says who says apple isn't adequately addressing the issue. Well, they haven't acknowledged it that step one
Of addressing the issue an apple is a long history of not. Yeah, they have they have a long history of ignoring things
so hard uh, hoping that they'll go away
only to Finally acknowledge them only if they if they get enough backlash
butterfly keyboard for example bump gate on the the older macbooks like this is this is not this is not a new thing
Let's let's not pretend
You're holding it wrong. Yeah, exactly vertical one. Um, that's about it fisker
Can't sell its cars due to server issues
this Is such a cautionary tale and we should all listen extremely intently for the next two minutes
As part of its bankruptcy proceedings evie company fisker has been attempting to liquidate its assets in order to pay back creditors
In june rental company american lease agreed to purchase fiskers remaining
3,300 vehicles for 46.3 million dollars
As of last week american lease had paid 42.5 million and had accepted delivery of a third of the vehicles
Last friday fiskers revealed that they couldn't transfer the vehicle's cloud link
To another company's servers due to an underlying technical issue
It is unclear how long fiskers knew about this problem prior to informing american lease
I wonder what that issue is it doesn't matter like it's a bankruptcy thing. So just give them the servers
The point is Well, not necessarily because not every car will be owned by american lease
There are still end users out there. So it could be a privacy issue. It could be anything. It could be a technical issue
It could be a contractual issue. We don't know
Because american lease would struggle to run the fleet of vehicles without the cloud based features
The company has filed an emergency objection to fiskers liquidation plan
The doj has filed its own objection based on claims that fiskers has been asking owners of their vehicles to cover the costs of their own recall repairs
Fiskers also appears to be under investigation by the sec, but the exact focus of the investigation is currently unknown
So here's the problem the problem is not fiskers necessarily here the problem is not
Just this car or this server the problem is that this
Will happen to basically everything that you own
Once it is reliant on cloud based services. Absolutely
Everything that you purchase Because is it really a purchase if it just stops working when somebody rent?
Yeah, when somebody sort of decides they don't feel like paying for it anymore
um I forget how I started the sentence. So it doesn't matter the point is that everything
is literally one bad decision or one key person being hit by a bus or or one
um Infrastructure error away from being a brick and this is terrifying
Yeah Back to tesla for a minute back to every single day that goes by I like my car more
They have done a very good job actually by and large of providing ota updates to their vehicles going back to pretty much the first ones
From day one. I said these things are going to be a disaster because they keep revving the hardware so frequently and um
the the the ongoing overhead of supporting all of these various uh all these various models and all of these various iterations of the hardware
Is going to be completely untenable and they're just going to start sort of deprecating them and it's gonna
I was wrong. They have actually done overall a pretty spectacular job
In that in that regard. They've done a pretty bad job of a lot of other things, but that
I got to give credit But that doesn't mean that I was overall wrong about that problem
and fisker anyone who bought a fisker
or um 3300 fiskers
Is going to is finding that out the hard way and i'm just
I don't know what to do What do we do luke help me?
I want to say vote with your wallet, but like what what can you even
How many cars even are there that aren't
Basically, this is acceptable to a similar issue like this right now that you would buy new. Yeah, this I wrote this in the uh
in the topic doc This is f***ed and applies to basically every car
Yeah For prep for this one I'd love to have a list of car brands that existed in the 90s and don't exist anymore
If you think your car company is going to last and this won't be a problem. You are literally wrong
Pontiac Yeah, there's one
Mercury yeah nice Saturn's still around
Nope Speaking of planet-based car company. I know right sob. Sob. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Sion
Not 90s, but delorean. Yeah holds mobile Yeah, a lot of these were bought out by other companies, but that's sort of what's happening here. Suzuki pulled out of canada
um, yeah Datsun
Yeah So a lot of companies
Yeah, I mean some of them have like still exist but have changed ownership like multiple times like jaguar is not a british
um car manufacturer Uh, who has owned
Jaguar I thought they were like australian or something they became nationalized in 1975 due to financial difficulties
I don't know. They were british, uh, but in 1984 Uh, it became its own company again ford motors purchased them in 1999
And then land rover in 2000 selling both to tata motors in 2008
Where's tata? India, I think. Okay
Was it an australian movie where they talk about it then or something? There was there was something. I don't I don't remember. Anyways
Yeah, yeah tata is based in uh, mumbai
Wild though, right? uh amc. There's another one. Um
Holden was apparently the uh, the australian one. A lot of these were bought. Yeah
All right, what else we got is there good news? Plymouth. Is there good news? Behold
Nintendo's alarmo On wednesday, nintendo announced new hardware that has spent 10 years developing a $100 alarm clock called alarmo
Alarmo has an optional motion detection feature and will make game sounds when its user moves
Users can use gestures to enable snooze on their alarm and turn it off simply by getting out of bed
It likewise tracks the user's sleep. Nintendo suggests not using the motion tracking feature if you sleep with another person
Tell me the product is only for forever alone without telling me that in addition to this announcement
Probably kids nintendo has published a four-part interview with the clocks developers
Oh um
Discussion question. Does nintendo not understand what people want from them?
Or is there actually a huge untapped market for nintendo themed alarm clocks that you can't use if you have a girlfriend
I I just saw this and i was like
what Like nintendo has made all kinds of things over the years, especially if you go back to their pre-video game days
Like they're they're an old company and Playing cards. Yeah, they've they've created some
Oddly unbelievable products, but this one i'm just like
Why who was asking for this? Like I could I could I could see if it was a switch dock or something switch dock with a built-in clock
I don't I don't know they've been interested. There's a there's an add-on thinking you can get for pokemon go that tracks your sleep
There's a game called pokemon sleep
Um, and now they have this they've been really into sleep stuff for actually a long time
This isn't their only thing right now that
um Deals with sleep
El bardo says I love nintendo because they do their own thing without paying attention to trends
Sometimes you get the switch. Sometimes you get this
Yeah You got to diversify
I just yeah, I mean, yeah, maybe we should maybe we should do an alarm clock like I just
It just feels so random. Why don't you want the sleep motion tracking of all of your employees in the Linus town?
What you make sure everyone you make sure everyone goes to bed on time. It's good
It'll only work if you sleep with somebody else
Only work. It'll only make more members of the Linus. Absolutely. Oh my goodness. You guys we're not doing Linus town
Even if I had the money I wouldn't spend it on Linus town that would be embarrassing
That would actually be like cringe-worthingly narcissistic
Yeah, but we all more so than everything else. Yes
They're gonna back me up on this one. They hate agreeing with me, but guys come on
It's it's almost to the point It's almost to the point where it's annoying to type in our website domains because they all start with either Linus or l
Every single one of them searching for your name on documents. They don't or in teams is like impossible
Floatplane you can use that against me the one that
Oh, well LTT Store. No, no, no, no LTT Labs
Linus media group creator warehouse tech creator warehouse.com boom
Short Linus. Weird. It seems like it redirected to something. Well, it seems like I will
Got them. Yeah. Yeah Floatplane.com. Let's go. Yeah. Oh, look at this video coming young people try Windows xp
Oh, that's actually kind of cool. Yeah, that's uh The question we set out to answer is
Is Windows xp actually as goaded as the people who remember it think it is? Yes. Yes
You may be disappointed. I don't care. Okay. What a roll Windows are wrong Windows seven goat
Well, yeah Yeah, but Windows xp. We'll see Windows xp was better because we can
Right click something and it uses it as a click instead of having to left click and then right click
That is actually the best thing the problem with the wrong opinions about the people that are going to be in this video. Um, is that
They are valuing convenience over quality
You are making a lot of assumptions about these people. There's only one wait
There's only one settings application for the whole computer instead of two that are split
And then one of them opens another one and some of the settings are in one
But they're also in another one, but they probably won't have to open on Windows 11. So they'll think that's better
I'm just waiting for Windows 12
Intel has unveiled aro lake their new core ultra 200 s series CPU's
Also known as aro lake s Have been announced and sales and pre-orders will begin on october 24
For about the same price as 14th gen core chips. You'll be getting parity performance
Asterisk at about half the power consumption
Of course, you'll need to buy a new z890 motherboard since aro lake s needs the new lga 1851 socket
And also z890 boards do not support ddr4. So you'll probably need some new RAM
Also, the performance isn't quite the same team blue admits the geomean of the gaming performance of the flagship core ultra 9
285 k is actually five percent less than the 14 900 k
But they do claim an eight percent increase in single threaded performance and 15 percent in multi-threaded workloads compared to 14th gen
Oh, and they have npu's, but they're not good enough for co-pilot plus. So
nice So our discussion question is if the performance was identical to 14th gen at half the power consumption
Would anyone find these chips worth the upgrade?
Upgrade, I don't know. I think we are happy about a new purchase. Definitely. I think we are long past
Upgrading from the last generation. I think we've been long past for a long time
Yeah, and I think we've probably beat this horse enough talking about the latest iPhones
There was something else that came out recently that I was like
I mean, I don't think that's necessarily true of everything. I think on the GPU side
We should expect a generational upgrade for how bloody long we wait for a new generation of product
That's fair. You don't wait as long for CPU though I think also it's very likely that a lot of the people watching the show right now
Either don't pay for their own power or
Have relatively cheap power
There are places in the world less euro audience here, but yeah, there's there's quite a few places in the world where
Power costs are like a huge factor
So you might not care about it, but someone else might but that might just mean this might not be for you
This product might not be for you. You already have a CPU. That's pretty good
It's probably not for you Assuming your power costs are also either not way too high or you don't pay for it
I didn't I didn't and Fleming I didn't I didn't mean everyone watching. Yeah
In other breaking news. Yes piracy does cause a drop in revenue for games
A peer-reviewed study I really don't agree with this study
Here we go putting that out there a peer-reviewed study compared games with denuvo drm and found that games where a crack was available at
Launch suffered an average loss of 19 percent of legitimate sales in those early weeks compared to games where no crack was available
How do you measure that? However Piracy resulted in nearly zero mean total revenue loss when the drm survived for 12 or more weeks
Because new sales drop off quickly after the first few months
According to the study there was no apparent connection between the type of game and its likelihood of getting cracked earlier or later
Discussion question here is should game publishers consider ditching drm a few months post launch?
Hey, what would you think of that luke? It's an interesting idea launch drm
Yeah, and then okay You know it's going to be cheaper now anyway, so if you're not desperate to play it immediately anyway, then we can just
Screw off and take our hooks out of your kernel or whatever
Actually kind of love that. It's an interesting interesting way to go for sure
I Want to see I really want to know who funded the study
I want to know if it's time for mine after dark
Dan I thought you were asking luke. No, I'm not. I'm asking Dan. I think it should be looks all right. Let's get out of here soon. Yeah
I will push the button and then I will push these other buttons
There's a lot of buttons Which one is it? Well, they say nothing was a problem, which is what it is
Sorry Here's the um declaration of competing interest
What what is up with the the capitalization on the word credit? I don't know
A declaration of the authors declare they have no
That means so much okay All right
Okay Make of it what you will you can like it or not like it or believe it or not believe it
I don't think anyone's ever gonna agree No on this because by its very definition it cannot be measured. No
um
Because you're you're talking about different games now It's like there's so many variables involved with that. There are so many variables. What if that game just wasn't gonna sell as much
There are a lot of variables like
And you we we know that our ability to predict that is not perfect or else certain games wouldn't be made
I don't know
How about some march message has do it I've been loving my hat and as if the person who did the study is a developer
who made a game so like
I'm not saying it makes them bias But I think just having a statement that says like we're definitely not is also not necessarily fair
Anyways, what if you just have no DRM and then understand that the people who pirate your game are not gonna be the people that purchased it
And there will be some probably yeah, there will be some didn't lose two billion dollars in revenue because of account sharing
That was never their money. Anyway, merch messages. I've been loving my hat and as a theater tech
I'm sure I'll get a lot of use from a blank black tea question for l l and d
Did any of you guys see the northern lights last night?
Uh, no, no, we had uh, we had a solar event a little while ago
Like I mean a few months ago. I guess I don't remember exactly when it was but
Um, I saw people posting pictures of it and I was like, wow, that looks really cool
And then I went and I looked at it in person I was like, oh and I pointed my phone camera at it and I was like
Oh, wow, it sure looks a lot better in pictures I probably could have just looked at this in pictures and it actually would have been better
So that's kind of where I'm at on looking at the northern lights at least this far south
This far south it's like kind of a problem. They're usually kind of crap
If you're in, uh, places in alberta and stuff, there's some there's some pretty cool spots to catch it
But yeah, I'm looking through this person's like personal blog and they actually seem pretty cool
But I maintain that I don't think it can be properly measured
Okay Yes, it can't be properly measured
But I also think it's naive to say that every person who pirated wasn't gonna buy it. Oh, absolutely
You're definitely losing some amount 20% there's like no way I think measuring it is basically impossible. Yes. I think we can agree on that
Yeah, I really don't think 20% is that's that's gotta be way too high
I don't even think 20% of gamers would know how to pirate it
That I don't know about necessarily
And it's probably changed a lot over the over the years. That's why like I would I would think
20% of pc gamers in the mid 2000s probably could figure out how to pirate a game. Yes now
Yeah, I don't know and it could be very genre dependent as well
Like if you've got a game that like is super appealing to like tech heads and engineering sorts
You like a Kerbal space program or you've like a satisfactory or something like that
I would say piracy is more of a threat. Yeah, then if you've got like a hyper casual fall guys
You know, um Assuming we don't need the online. Yeah online. Um, but like that type of a game. Yeah, like something more more casual
Interesting. Okay, let's move on. I don't feel like arguing about it
Why is it okay that NVIDIA locks down every setting and makes everything close source?
But it's a problem when Apple does the same thing Do you see the value of Apple's walled garden as safer?
When did I ever seem like I was super chill with NVIDIA's approach?
We've negatively pointed this out like a trillion times and a lot of people do
People dunk on that constantly especially when it comes to their Linux support. I have I have talked
Multiple times on this show. I'm gonna say
Many times on this show about the fact that NVIDIA and Apple do not work together on anything
They do not work together at all. Do you know why?
Because there is no room that is large enough to fit two
Penises that big
There's no room for them to swing them around so they just don't do it
Won't work can't work They used to there used to be NVIDIA GPUs in MacBooks. Think about it. What happened?
bump gate happened and neither of them
could admit any kind of failure
to each other to the public And that was it. They never worked together again. It was that simple
Hello Linus. They're they both they both have just a spectacularly arrogant way of doing business
Yeah, and no, it's not good when either of them does it. They're they're different in their approaches
I think apples is far more
Anti-consumer like directly to their to their customers
But I mean, I guess NVIDIA's is is anti their their purchasers of their equipment as well. It just manifests far more
Behind the scenes because you are not an NVIDIA customer
Ad and board partners are NVIDIA customers solutions providers and system integrators are NVIDIA customers and NVIDIA
Absolutely treats them With the exact same level of contempt that Apple does their customers. It's just way less visible
All right, hello Hello Linus when purchasing your tie can't take can't
Were you aware of its sibling the Audi e-tron gt?
It has real buttons inside and no Porsche tax mechanically. They are nearly identical. I was aware of it
I didn't like it as much um
Also, it's really expensive too
What do you I mean? It has an Audi tax
so Right, no one at work drives an Audi and I find that very
reasonable Okay, where's even like the locus locus. Who where's the most local Audi dealership? Where's the closest one?
I don't know. I mean there's there there exist. I mean, there's definitely not even a use
I don't see how you're gonna used outies. Yeah, I don't see very many outies in bc at all
Yeah, I don't know. Oh, no, it is it is quite a bit less expensive
um I admittedly didn't look that close. Okay, no, hold on. No, no, they just have a sort of different model for it
So it only has one trim, but then you just add stuff to it. So hold on a second if you like
Add a bunch of like fancy crap to it. You can oh you can definitely
You can definitely get her like if you want heated rear seats and blah blah blah fine nappa leather
You can oh no, I actually no I do you cannot make it as expensive as I can. Nope not even close
So, yeah, you're right. It's cheaper. Um, I went to see it. I didn't really like it and I think it's kind of that simple
First purchase as a full-time software engineer gearing up for the home projects to come
Question for Linus. Are there any videos similar to the Intel fab tour in the pipeline?
Fab tour Oh, um, we're going to look at an isp
Oh, yeah, well that'll be sweet. Yeah, that'll be fun. That's cool. Actually, that's awesome. Yeah, and I think there's like, uh
Oh man, what is it? What is it again? No, it's like, uh, it's it's really interesting for some reason
Uh, why is it interesting? Yeah, no, it's going to be really cool. I think it's an isp or a data center or something and I think it's um
I don't want to say what it is exactly, but it's really cool I forget because I think I remember what it is, but I don't remember if I think I if I remember right
If it's what I think it is it's going to be the coolest thing ever
And if it's just a random data center or isp, then it's still going to be really cool
there How do current gen consoles use GDDR as system RAM?
Why hasn't this been done on laptops or handheld gaming devices to increase integrated GPU memory bandwidth?
That's a good question for an engineer. Um, I admit that I do not
I am not familiar enough with the differences between regular ddr and GDDR enough to tell you why it works fine for a console and why it
doesn't work fine for computer
My understanding and there there have been computers that do use GDDR memory. There was that weird
I forget the brand but that weird like china only console pc that did use GDDR
We've also seen like like these bizarre
like frankenstein console boards that
You can like install Windows on and stuff and they are definitely using GDDR
Um, my understanding is it just comes down to that ddr has better latency
Which is better for running an operating system and GDDR has better bandwidth
Excuse me better bandwidth, which is better for graphics where throughput is the most important thing
and These console operating systems are optimized so that they don't have as many sort of random processes running
So there's there's not as much of a hit from having higher latency
But beyond that I couldn't tell you and I don't I have to admit
I don't really understand why as we make our way into you know dddr 6x
um Why the latency might not be good enough to use as your system memory as well
I mean apple is clearly using shared system memory although in that case
Um, I are they using are they using hbm? I can't I actually can't remember off the top of my head right now
m3 mac Memory type. No, I think it's just is it ddr. Why can't I remember right now? Help me
Lp ddr 5x. Yeah, okay, so it's it's not GDDR
So apple clearly uses regular ddr as GPU memory
And consoles clearly use GDDR as system memory
Ask the engineers Trying again since we ran out of time last week. What is one regulation in your industry that you'd like to change or remove?
And maybe one that you would like to add
In my industry a regulation that I'd like to change or remove. I hate zoning regulations
I think they suck I think that
If you are you know building something
tasteful and safe and
I don't think all zoning sucks Mixed residential business mixed residential business. Yeah, but I don't necessarily want like
Highly polluting factories in residential areas. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. No, there's not all zoning sucks
There's value to zoning, but I am most zoning on the other hand
Yeah, terrible downer. Okay
Uh, I think the one that I would want to get rid of is the
I don't remember what it is, but there's some type of Claim or something that you can put on a youtube video where you end up getting people's person identifiable information
Really if you want to fight it Oh
Yeah, that's pretty gross. Yeah, it's a problem. Like I think some vtuber was going through this recently or something where
People are putting some form of claim against their account
Because if they want to fight that claim they have to give them their information
And they don't want to be publicly identifiable So they can't fight the whole reason why they're a vtuber. So they can't fight the claim. That's super icky. Yeah, it's gross
Um, I mean even for us like you don't necessarily want to give them
personal information Iron most and fake copyright claim to get personal info. Yeah. Yeah some article I was reading the other day
Yeah, it's gross Don't do that Be cool. Yeah, that's junky
John vellist up from prairie Does your interaction or relationship with taren change after hiring him if taren's no longer working with LMG?
Where will you find a new ceo? Who will you trust for such a position?
um No, I don't think that our relationship has changed much we do periodic check-ins where i'm just like hey, how you doing more often
Sorry, you talk more often. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, we talk more
um But like I wouldn't say that the way we interact changes
Or has changed. He's still extremely brutally honest with me. I'm still extremely brutally honest with him
He made an offhand comment Um, I I sent a follow-up email a little while ago being like, yeah, I was kind of cranky when he said that and he sends me this
Snarky ass response that was like, yeah, I can tell when you're sending emails. I'm just like, yeah, okay, so we're good still
So, uh, yeah, it seems fine. Um, as for you know, where would I find a new ceo? Who would I trust for such a position?
I have no idea. I um, I think he has pretty good job security at this point not because everything he does is perfect
but because Uh, you know, he has the room as far as you know, I'm concerned still
Um, I I don't agree with everything he does. I mean, I've talked about that a fair bit on the show recently
But I do support What he does it's that we were talking about it earlier in the show, right?
Um, I don't remember that not with thought about Terence specifically. Um, but it was like the whole buy-in thing
Yeah, you don't necessarily have to agree, but we're on the same ship. Yeah. Yeah, um
I who would I trust? I mean if he resigned, um, I'd probably have to step in
Until such time as we could find someone else and I have no idea what that process would even look like I have no experience
Hiring CEOs, um, other than just like oh, yeah, this guy was able to like deal with my bull at once
He should probably be able to do it again
That was the process last time. Yeah, I know
Hey guys at Luke as a 3d artist I look for stretched textures in games to see if the developers put effort into their game
Does your profession help you in any way judge how good something is in games or otherwise?
Dude, I have such a hard time enjoying
certain forms of media now especially youtube
Because yeah, when I see something that is meant to look like a casual conversation between people
Oh drives me nuts, dude, but I can tell that it was filmed from four different angles on three different days
Not gonna lie. I get this with you guys sometimes
We don't try to hide it, dude Uh, that might be why yeah, we don't we don't try to hide it for a long time there
I don't even know if I could define the era, but you were making videos
In a way that I think you didn't want to or something I don't know how to even define it and I could tell and I don't think like
Almost anyone else could tell but I could tell and it honestly made them unwatchable
I couldn't watch any of it because I was just like I know for a fact. He doesn't want to do this
And that just I don't know that threw me off. I don't even remember
For me, it makes me a little bit more sympathetic to
Certain software issues and also significantly more critical about other ones
Because when like, you know, how little work it was. Yeah
Or I know that it was a decision Right. Yeah, and that'll drive me nuts too. Sure. Or I'll I'll be able to tell, you know
Like somebody just did felt like not doing it So they convinced someone else on the team or something that it like wasn't possible or whatever and it's just like
I think part of what ruined stuff for me is the people that I'm surrounded with like brandon lee
If you used to work here as a camera editor before that mostly camera guy
um So, you know, we're having like a cinematography discussion, right and um
Then it kind of shifts into like there's you know, and he's telling me like look like as a cinematographer
There's certain types of formats. I just can't watch and I was like, well, what do you mean?
He's like sitcoms. I'm like, what why can't you watch a sitcom? Like who cares? They make funny joke
Guy walks in room. Everyone laughs, you know, like all the tropes, right? And he's like
The laugh track actually, you know on that anything with a laugh track
I can't I can't watch it and then he has me watch this
This edit of the big bang theory without the laugh track. It's so rough, dude. It's
And that was that was a show that at least the first few seasons. I thought were I thought were pretty funny
Um, they it was it was pretty light entertainment for me
Like it was the kind of thing that I would watch while like bouncing the baby to sleep
so it wasn't like you know, my my attention was super focused on it, but I enjoyed it and uh
And after that I just I I couldn't look at it the same
I I just I couldn't enjoy it at all. You know, they're all standing there silently. Yeah
Completely so so part of it is just like the
It's it's not necessarily working in the industry that ruined something for me
But it's like the the the professionals that I'm surrounded by and sort of their own their influence
um Yeah, totally ruined. I I don't think I've watched a sitcom since then
Yeah Yeah I watched an edit of death note with all the inner monologues removed
That was awful
Just ridiculous But yeah, there'll there'll be like I I think honestly if anything it makes me appreciate my developers a lot
Hmm, because I'll look at other sites and services
Use it and then be like uh And then look up like how many developers does this company have and be like, oh, okay. We're doing pretty good
Oh Yeah, I don't know all right teams microsoft teams. I always I always give you a pat on the back when luke is feeling bad
Helps cheer him up a little bit or makes you hate teams more. I don't know which one it is. Why why
Does it not highlight your box when you are talking in a call?
Why are you making everyone go is my mic working? You should be able to tell because it should highlight just like it does for everyone else
That is the worst Feature decision in the world. Why can't I schedule a message to a group chat that I just created?
Why can't I do that? Why is that a limitation? Why does that possibly exist?
You could make an argument everything else that has scheduled this was a free app
You could make an argument that it's an anti spam feature
But teams is a paid app Teams for the workplace is a paid app
Nobody is joining an organization To create groups and spam it as I are then that organization has some to figure out
As I regain control I would like to reiterate that microsoft if you have any interest
I would be very happy to consult on making teams better. I will do it for free
I might have an in on that. I'll see what we might not even keep using teams
um And I even if we stop using teams in the hopes of making it better for all of the rest of the people in the world that
Have to use your app. Um, I would love to consult for free on making it better
There are objective and incredibly easy things that you can do that would make it in way better experience for literally everyone
cool nice
Nice so many people have to use your software
For luke imagine you're hired as an ai researcher once you sign an nda
They show you an incredible human like agi or maybe they're just hazing you. What's the craziest advance you'd believe?
What's the craziest advance I would believe?
Like craziest level that they had gotten to that had been hidden from the public and I'm now told is that what they mean?
Yeah, let's get that. Yeah. Hmm. I think that's exactly
Uh, I think a advancement on what we currently have I don't I would not believe agi
I would be I would be Um, you know the first time I ever saw a mineral oil computer. I traced the monitor cable to the monitor because I didn't believe it
I would be doing stuff like that, you know trying to figure out. What are you? What are you doing?
Is there is there a person in the box of this mechanical Turk? Um, but
If it was like a you know the the tasking thing that they have now
If they had a version of that that was just like very unrestrained didn't have token limits
Stuff like that was was able to pull on resources way more heavily. I would believe that
I think the the great I wasn't asked, but I think the the best advance that I believe is
near real-time latency Because right now that's uh, that's a huge like I think that's a huge impediment to making these things believable
The tasking is how long everything takes to respond
Like it makes the It's not okay
Think back to when we were hosting the WAN Show remotely
During COVID. Oh, I see Even just the the you know 40 milliseconds of a video call 50 milliseconds of a video call is enough
That our interaction is not natural Is it fair if it uses some form of like filler or if it reframes partway through in the same way that humans do
Yeah, I think what if it What if it does stuff like that? That's the best that I could believe right now is if they could nail down the latency
But it would still like say weird stuff and hallucinate and stuff like I don't think we're I don't think we're close
To fixing that
I was wondering why all of the underwear are out of stock and say they're not coming back
Does this mean you guys are getting out of the underwear business or is it something new is coming?
Uh, we have issues with our supplier yet again
At what point do you become the supplier? Oh, we can't I mean we can't we're not a like fabric mill
No is no isn't an answer
I bet we could make
Build it No, don't do that. No, no, we don't we don't it's gonna happen sometimes
So we just we're having a surprising amount of them at the moment, but like I don't know it's fine
I
Tying in from the creator where I stand up and float playing chat here
No isn't an answer holy moly luke well played
We're gonna find a solution. It just isn't going to be to become a textile mill. That's all
And it will take some time
We are not dependent on our ability to produce and sell underwear, so we'll be fine. We have time
Okay, just buy shirts and cut them up
The more the more tall shirts you buy the better it looks so turn those into underwear. Yeah, not a bad solution really bad solution
Yeah, okay Oh man, we I even know what the name of the company could be
LTT Textile tips. Yeah, nice
Nice another domain that starts with lines. I'm just trying to help you out. It's good. Thank you. Yeah, we need to own all of them
I actually have a problem because I often use shorthand to get to domains. Nice. So like gmail, right?
I'm not typing gmail just gm enter. Yeah
I can't do that. No It drives me crazy. Just just set up our set up our shortener our LMG.gg. Just give me just make yourself some like
Lab store At affiliate links forum
I mean you your team controls like our dns settings and everything so you could just add some like custom
Resolving rules and just oh, yeah, we could do that for the whole company
Yeah, if you just typed it if you just like typed fp into a browser bar, you could I will do that right now
This just sounds like you're not trying hard enough to solve it. I tried to say no was the answer
That's my bad. Yep. Yeah way to go. Oops. This is not how you leave luke
Your team is looking down on you. I got work to do. Hi ldl. How's the bike painting coming?
I'm interested in doing a custom paint job on my car hood Do you have any tips for someone getting into auto body painting game into the audio body game?
Car paint
Don't Unless you have many many hours and many hundreds of dollars to invest in it just stay out
So close I lost it at the end. I'm sorry
Um When is the last time you bought your wife flowers Linus?
Oh, what she always tells me that they're um, not good use of money
She is the perfect woman Lego flowers. She likes the lego flowers. I think she does like lego flowers. Yeah
um Last time I bought my wife flowers
Um, I'm trying to think I I bought her something random. She likes ohenry bars. I got her an ohenry bar a couple weeks ago
That's what she likes. What did you No, I wasn't smiling because I thought it was like rule number one is actually listen and actually get them what they actually like
That's rule number one. Yeah
I'm smiling because it was cute not because it's bad. Yeah, it's adorable
Linus when you could start driving what safety measures and rules will you implement?
Android auto carplay only new car with loads of smart safety features or an old clunker
Does little man get to drive the Porsche? Oh, absolutely not
Yeah, you got to be kidding me First thing I did when I started driving was I like hit a pillar in a parking lot like there's
Yeah, there's no way. Um, I've never hit anything yet. No, I think if he has I think if he has a big date then I don't see why not
But like the flip side of it is gotta prove some responsible driving before then
Yeah, and the flip side of it is like If she's the kind of girl who's impressed by that
Is she the kind of girl that um, you want around likes you for you. Yeah, you know, yeah, so
I don't know you and and like and and it's one of those things It's like do I want to encourage, you know putting on airs. That's not his car
I Wouldn't tell him not to rent a nice car to impress a girl, but borrowing your dad's car is not like you haven't actually done anything
Really, you wouldn't I'm actually surprised You wouldn't tell him not to rent a nice car to impress a girl that does not seem like a Linus ism actually um, I
Okay, I wouldn't not allow it. I guess like it like it's not up to me anyway. Yeah, right like sure
Um And remember rent a nice car to impress a girl can mean rent a limo for a prom
That's renting a nice car. Okay. It might impress her like I'm just I'm just saying there's there's context where
Him actually doing something because remember the thing that's impressive is the effort
Right and so if you're trying to impress her with your effort, which is the thing that I would hope she would be valuing about it
Right because we aren't all just materialistic here
Then you have to actually put in the effort And be like hey dad can I have the keys is not effort
So I would never say don't make an effort
Yeah But borrowing my car isn't effort. Yeah
Working hard and mowing lawns and renting a cool car for a date is effort
He had to do those things in order to borrow your car
um But then maybe he could get a cooler car by my car
No Or maybe yeah, I don't know. I just seems it just seems lame. It seems lame
I have so many additional questions I want to ask but there's information that should not end up on the stream
So I'm going to leave it there like how long until this is going to be a thing and
Uh stuff like that which we shouldn't go into
Till what's going to be a thing? He's driving
Oh, I mean a while like I would expect him to get his license right when he is of age
That's apparently not a thing anymore. Have you heard about that?
That's interesting. I have some pretty strong feelings about that that might not be popular
um I I see driving as a fundamental life skill
um I I see it as being just an important part of being a
Competent adult your insurance gets cheaper the longer you have your license. I was so scared that we would have
Differing opinions. Oh, I thought you were gonna take the no driving is not necessary and I would have just left
All the goodwill
And there's a lot of places in the world where you might never use the skill or certainly not often
But just in case you do your insurance is super cheap Look, I don't agree with my mother about everything
But you know when she was when she was convincing me to learn to drive stick
Um, and I don't necessarily think that most people need to learn stick anymore
There were a lot more stick shift cars back in the early 2000s and 2000s than there are today
But when she was convincing me that I needed to learn to drive stick a manual transmission the shifter
um Her rationale for it was you don't know where you're going to be
And what the situation is going to be when there's an emergency
if The driver is incapacitated for some reason and we need to get to the hospital now
You need to be able to drive you need to be able to drive any vehicle and you need to be ready for it
You don't need to be the most practiced operator of the thing, but you damn well need to know how to do it
And um, I kind of carried that with me. I I agree. I strongly agree
Um, and I think that even if you will probably never drive you should learn to drive
Yeah, uh Vertig one said being able to drive isn't the same thing as having a license. I do agree with that
But I don't think at least here getting a license is not that big of a step and the potential benefits behind it are
Really big like oh if you do need a car for whatever reason
Uh, your insurance is way cheaper the ability to upgrade your license in case you need to
Have an upgraded license for a certain line of work that you might need to do
It opens up so many work possibilities like keeping yourself limited in that way and making it so that if you do need it
It's going to be very expensive Just seems really oddly short-sighted for something that is not that big of a barrier
Are you always going to live in a super walkable city? Yeah, maybe you want to move. I don't know. Yes
It's the arguments and look at the cost of housing and stuff lately
Like you're probably going to move at some point and it's one of those things
We're not not everybody is in a life situation where they're able to
Yeah, and the barrier might be too high and the barrier might be too high
They may not have access to a vehicle. They might not have someone to teach them. They might have a physical disability
I I don't know everyone's life situation is there, but if you have the opportunity and you're just like
I disagree
Yeah Yeah Like I knew people that didn't have access to a vehicle in order to take their test and that was a pretty big barrier
Some of them still got over it by like, you know paying a friend to borrow theirs
Which is kind of sketchy to be clear. Oh, yeah
Or or other various options. I think there's also places where you can you can rent a car
But then renting a car is really expensive Um, and I think it's as far as my understanding goes. It's even more expensive when you're renting it for that reason
Um, there's like there's lots of different reasons why it might not make sense
But the dip in people getting their licenses does not match
Um, those reasons being more legitimate, you know what I mean? Like that it doesn't follow that line. So
Arbiter K, I don't know if this is true But Arbiter K says Gavin free of slow mo guys fame is in his 30s and does not have a driver's license. That actually blows my mind
Um, I will say that Gavin who I have met
Is in a life situation where he doesn't need to drive himself anywhere. So that's something
Um, you are not I
Just get it. Just get it. Just get it
Oh my goodness. That's uh, I don't know if that's true. Anyway, though
UK licensing is It's a very hard test. Oh, yeah
We would be put to shame I mean, that's not too surprising
Uh, hello. Oh, and to be clear. There's lots of cities that I wouldn't drive in
Even though I do know how to drive like there's there's places. I've been that I'm just like this is terrifying forget it
Yep So there's that as well
There's also places where like if you have an international driver's license You're allowed to drive but like the road laws are so different that you just probably shouldn't yeah
Yeah, I wouldn't even consider driving in like, uh, and a metropolitan city and like india
Yeah, I wouldn't even begin to consider it not not even the rules of the road
Just the styles of driving are so different so different. My goodness
Yeah Hello, LLD. I'm a power sports student who was told to buy a quality ratcheting screwdriver
power sports Okay
Yeah Linus, has there been any consideration towards motorcycle riding when designing any products on the store?
I'd say the only one is the backpack and the only
Consideration really was that it would fit over like my shoulder pads
Um on my riding jacket and that uh the carabiner zipper pulls
were Because a I thought they were kind of cool. I saw them somewhere and I thought they were cool and b because I
Would ride with my rackets my badminton racket sticking out of the bag
And so I needed a zipper system that would hold but not come apart. Yeah, um, but hold but not close completely
Yeah It's about it. Good evening Daniel Lucas and Sebastian. I'm looking to get into swimming as my exercise routine
Oh, it is now. Sorry keep going curious as to how that is going for you and any tick on getting started
Um, it was great this summer like I actually like got boobs and my cardio is way better
Um, I've switched over to beat saber now that the weather sucks and I am looking forward to swimming again
um next year The only tip I can give you is do it you coward
Uh, it's it's so hard to get motivated to get to the pool even when it's in my backyard
It's still hard to like go get changed and like get in the water. But once you get going it's um
It's good the relatively long drive to my gym sucks
um, but the gym that's closer to my house is Way over populated to the point where if I wanted to do the same
Workout that I do at the gym that I go to it would take
Uh, sometimes up to four times as long to the point where in a three hour period
I might not be able to get enough time on each one of the machines to even finish my
Workout that I can do in an hour at the other gym. So that's frustrating. It's not even worth it. I have to drive
um The other thing I would say is if you don't want to pull a me and get an ear infection
If you're going to be swimming all the time maybe get your plugs or something
They're pretty cheap I bought some like Nike ones and they were like nine dollars or something ten dollars twelve dollars somewhere around there
Last one I've got for you today. Hi DLL. What features are in the works for Floatplane?
And are there any features that you would like to implement? What kinds of things does the team do for the other companies?
That's a lot of questions. Whoa
Could you give us a product roadmap and uh, also a business proposal for
the Quarter cute a quarterly business review for what the what's your q5 looking like?
Oh, yeah, he honestly each one of those I could make
A whole show about um, wow the roadmap. I'm not giving you
because I have learned my lesson on that and if we make any change of decision or do anything whatsoever to alter it
You'll say you won't be mad People will go freaking nuclear
You'll go ape. We're working on stuff. Yeah, and it's good. Yep
And people are going to be happy and it is what it is We don't have like, you know the the agility or the speed that some
Notably larger teams have we don't have feature parody with things like youtube and twitch and stuff like that
And that just is what it is. We don't have the the developer base
We don't have the armies of developers to do stuff like that and that's okay
We still have cool things. Uh, I think full plane is is
Good and we're gonna keep doing good stuff and it does feel like over time
We are trending to getting closer to them, which I find interesting
Um and cool. So it's getting it's getting better over time, which is good. So I'll say that
In regards to other things that the team does
That has slowly shifted into more dedicated positions than it originally was so you have people like
Conrad doing things for LTT Store technically the Floatplane team encompasses the Labs web team
So the Labs website is technically on the Floatplane team. Um
Oh, did we ever talk about the changes to I don't even think you've seen Labs on the uh on the show
I don't even think you've seen them all Them all have you seen them all? When's the last time you used the site?
Uh, when I saw us tweet about it Tweet about what about the new layout and stuff? Oh, have you seen the page layout though? Not this?
Have you seen the layout changes to the actual product pages? Have you seen this?
Yeah, where it like animates the hardware notes thing on the left hand side and stuff. Yeah, see when it loads the next thing
He's like, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I came on when when we tweeted about it
I found out about it in a tweet, which is hilarious. I didn't even know we tweeted about it. Oh, yeah
Okay, yeah They were like, hey come check out the uh, I think it's awesome. I think it looks great. I think it's really awesome looks super pro
Yeah, um I will I will yet again not publicly say the the roadmap
But there is uh something that we're looking into working on right now Which I think people will like a lot and it's in the spirit of some of the redesigns
We've done to the to the front page and the product pages and honestly, I I think it's really sharp
Um, I think some of the the work that's been done there has been really really good. Oops. I clicked the wrong link
Are we fans of fanless power supplies? This is actually pretty cool. Um, they looked at articles. We've been doing are awesome
thermals and efficiency um
The answer unless you're a liar or stupid is almost always going to be it depends
Then you got to read the rest of the you got to read the rest of the thing. Yeah
Yeah, I really like the the aesthetic direction that we're taking with the lab site right now
I think the changes that were done to the sections of the product pages
Um, even it might not seem that important, but even like like this
I'm gonna bring up my so where it says hardware notes here
It's gonna seem really small But just when you scroll down having it do that
Makes the page feel a lot more dynamic in my opinion. Yeah
So as you're going through we used to have all the sections automatically minimize. They don't do that anymore
Which I think is better It has that little animation thing. So the page kind of feels alive
I really really like Dan's whole concept here by having other Dan
Yes, uh, by by having all of the like picture and stat information on the right and the right up stuff on the left
So it feels like and the right up stays with you as you're scrolling through the stat information
So it's just I don't know the flow just feels really good. Um
I'm I really like how the site feels right now. Um
I think it's I think it's great. There's there's still work to be done
We need to work on stuff like the comparison bin stuff like that. Um, but yeah, it's really it's really coming into its own in my opinion
So you're still interim head of Labs, right?
Sure, are you applying for the job or like am I applying for the job? I don't know. I'm not applying for the I don't audition
I just work here
You take me you don't brother. We'll see you again next week same bad time same bad channel. Bye
It's after eight you need to go I lost I lost track and then I realized
Oh, yeah