WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:06.320 Sites like Craigslist and Facebook are full of people who offer custom PC building services. 00:00:06.320 --> 00:00:12.960 But should you trust them with your gaming budget? I'm going to contact completely random people on Facebook Marketplace, 00:00:14.160 --> 00:00:18.080 give them my money, and then just pray I don't get scammed. 00:00:18.080 --> 00:00:23.040 The rules are simple. Each builder gets a budget of 1,250 Canadian rubles, 00:00:23.040 --> 00:00:26.480 and then a different member of our team is going to go undercover. 00:00:26.480 --> 00:00:30.080 Meet these guys in person and bring back something, I hope. 00:00:30.800 --> 00:00:38.160 Then I will judge the quality of their craftsmanship, drag-race the PCs, and at the end, maybe even meet our builders in person. 00:00:38.160 --> 00:00:40.720 Talk to them. That is, unless they scam me. 00:00:41.200 --> 00:00:43.760 Oh, hey, that's one of them now! 00:00:44.560 --> 00:00:50.560 Yeah, yeah, Radeon 7600? That sounds good, but do you also have Segway to our sponsor? 00:00:57.120 --> 00:01:03.280 Our opening line was the same for every builder. 00:01:03.280 --> 00:01:09.440 Here's my budget. I need a gaming PC. There were other requirements that we kind of had in mind, 00:01:09.440 --> 00:01:15.360 but there's a catch. If they wanted that information, they had to specifically ask us for it. 00:01:15.360 --> 00:01:22.480 That's going to affect their communication score. Then we're going to rate each system for quality, performance, value, and beauty. 00:01:22.480 --> 00:01:27.360 At the end, whoever has the highest rank will get the PC returned to them for free 00:01:27.360 --> 00:01:32.560 so they can resell it. As for who comes last, they go on the wall of shame. 00:01:33.440 --> 00:01:39.360 Let's start with Jason's system. We decided to purchase from him because he seemed experienced with an Instagram 00:01:39.360 --> 00:01:45.360 and website specifically for showing off PC builds. And look at this, he even gave us an invoice. 00:01:45.360 --> 00:01:49.040 Unfortunately, what he also gave us is one of the weirdest systems 00:01:49.040 --> 00:01:52.320 that I think I've seen in a very long time. 00:01:53.200 --> 00:02:00.720 I've never even heard of Manmoo brand. GameMax only showed up on my radar when one of their power supplies blew up during Labs 00:02:00.720 --> 00:02:04.880 testing recently. And he's using a mobile engineering sample CPU? 00:02:05.680 --> 00:02:09.840 Also, soil motherboard? I've never even heard of this brand. 00:02:09.840 --> 00:02:13.200 Oh, I have, but not since the early 2000s. 00:02:14.000 --> 00:02:17.200 I mean, I guess they have a storied history since 1985. 00:02:17.280 --> 00:02:20.880 Yeah, that's not the kind of story that I would tell my kids at bedtime. 00:02:21.680 --> 00:02:23.440 Might keep them up late if you know what I mean. 00:02:25.600 --> 00:02:28.480 Why did we end up with two power supply boxes? Um, I don't know. 00:02:29.440 --> 00:02:32.960 He gave us two power supply boxes. Like, was there something in it? 00:02:32.960 --> 00:02:36.400 No, he also gave us a different CPU cooler box. 00:02:36.400 --> 00:02:39.520 Oh, then the one that... Yeah, this is a completely different cooler. 00:02:39.520 --> 00:02:45.920 Yeah, and also there's nothing in any of these boxes. I'm very interested to see how this performs, especially with that slow memory, 00:02:46.000 --> 00:02:49.360 but I can't... Wait, do you have the plastic peel on that fan? 00:02:51.760 --> 00:02:54.000 I was going to go easy on him for build quality, 00:02:54.960 --> 00:02:58.480 but I'm sorry, this is a three out of 10. 00:02:58.480 --> 00:03:02.400 Oh, it gets so much worse. You don't even know. We'll get to that later. 00:03:02.400 --> 00:03:08.160 How does this communication, though? We got this nice invoice, totally differed by plus or minus one cent due to rounding error. 00:03:08.160 --> 00:03:11.680 Yeah, I mean, the invoice shows he was professional. He answered our messages quickly. 00:03:11.680 --> 00:03:14.640 He offered things like, do we want used parts or new parts? 00:03:15.040 --> 00:03:18.560 To save a couple of bucks. That's good to know. He was upfront about some of the weirdness, 00:03:18.560 --> 00:03:22.320 like getting the engineering sample, though maybe not as upfront as he should have been. 00:03:22.320 --> 00:03:27.040 He kind of just said that, hey, it's going to be an engineering sample, and it won't show up in Windows. 00:03:27.040 --> 00:03:33.120 Right, but that doesn't address the complete lack of warranty, the potential reliability issues, and potential performance issues. 00:03:33.120 --> 00:03:36.000 Yeah, he also said that it would perform the same as a 1200K. 00:03:36.560 --> 00:03:40.640 No. And when we went to go pick it up, well, Rhys, what did you say? 00:03:40.640 --> 00:03:47.760 He was professional. It looks like he had done this before. He's obviously a salesman, kind of good at selling the product that he's selling. 00:03:47.760 --> 00:03:51.200 Right, but you already bought it. But I already bought it. So, I don't know. He was a nice guy. 00:03:51.200 --> 00:03:56.560 He was a very nice guy. Why did we end up with random boxes, Rhys? He had the computer set up, and I went up and tried it. 00:03:56.560 --> 00:04:00.400 Everything worked fine. And then he was like, oh, grab the boxes. Like, okay. And I just grabbed what was there. 00:04:00.400 --> 00:04:04.000 So he didn't tell me yes or no. He just, I just grabbed all the boxes that were available. 00:04:04.000 --> 00:04:09.840 Did he have other systems being built at the same time, or? I think he said he had other ones on the go. 00:04:09.840 --> 00:04:13.600 For communication, what would you rank him? I'll say eight. I'll say online. 00:04:13.600 --> 00:04:17.680 Maybe a six, because he wasn't super forthright. Let's call it a seven. 00:04:17.680 --> 00:04:21.680 Sure. But the next guy Rhys said was the nicest person he'd ever met. 00:04:21.680 --> 00:04:27.520 Really? I don't know if I said that, but he is very nice. For one thing, he didn't charge us a building fee. 00:04:27.520 --> 00:04:37.760 Every dollar is accounted for here. Six core Ryzen 5000 processor, Asrock motherboard, Kingston NVMe SSD, and an RX 7700 X TGPU. 00:04:37.760 --> 00:04:41.920 Oh, look at that. A brand name power supply. In terms of quality, 00:04:42.000 --> 00:04:45.840 is this three times the quality of the one we just looked at? I think so. 00:04:45.840 --> 00:04:50.400 Yeah. But how was his communication? He was great. He was understanding when we had to reschedule. 00:04:50.400 --> 00:04:54.800 He was very prompt and clear. He even offered us multiple ways to pay him. 00:04:54.800 --> 00:04:58.640 He could do a 50% deposit and he would order all the parts himself. 00:04:58.640 --> 00:05:04.560 That's a little risky. Yeah. Or we could just bring the parts to him and he would build it for us. 00:05:04.560 --> 00:05:09.440 Wait, for free? Yeah. What is even, what's his business model? 00:05:09.440 --> 00:05:12.320 He says he just has free time and he likes building computers. 00:05:13.280 --> 00:05:16.640 So 10 for communication? Yeah. 00:05:16.640 --> 00:05:22.000 Absolutely. We're going to see another field for business savvy, because Keaton is setting very unrealistic expectations. 00:05:22.000 --> 00:05:25.200 I mean, was the pickup perfect too? He's doing it for the love of the game. 00:05:25.200 --> 00:05:30.080 I love the guy. I think he's, I think he's perfect. I'm going to give 10s across the board just so he heads up. 00:05:30.080 --> 00:05:32.240 Reach out. We want to be friends with you. We want to be friends with you. 00:05:33.200 --> 00:05:37.840 All right. How about MiraSla? You nicknamed this one Teenage Engineering, 00:05:37.840 --> 00:05:40.880 but I couldn't help noticing that's an NZXT case. Yeah. 00:05:40.880 --> 00:05:44.880 Well, MiraSla is like 17 years old and the reason he's selling computers 00:05:44.880 --> 00:05:48.000 is because he's trying to save up for college. Wow. Okay. 00:05:48.000 --> 00:05:52.400 Yeah. So he's certainly more profit motivated than Keaton, 00:05:53.440 --> 00:05:57.040 though I got to give him credit. This is a pretty nice build. 00:05:57.040 --> 00:06:03.360 Yeah. There's a couple of tweaks that I think I would make. Like he got a SATA SSD instead of an NVMe SSD. 00:06:03.360 --> 00:06:06.880 Oh, you're not even really saving money on that. Yeah. 00:06:06.880 --> 00:06:10.400 But, you know, still meets our criteria of a one terabyte SSD. 00:06:10.400 --> 00:06:14.400 Yeah. And his build fee, $100 Canadian dollars. That's pretty reasonable. 00:06:14.400 --> 00:06:18.320 That's only about 70 US. He was also happy to throw in extra fans at a discount. 00:06:18.320 --> 00:06:22.720 Oh, that's nice of him. Yeah. Did we ask if he was willing to throw in extra cable management 00:06:22.720 --> 00:06:26.160 and extra peeling the plastic off of our motherboard? 00:06:26.160 --> 00:06:32.560 He'd sink it. Nope. It's got the world's most overcompensating Wi-Fi antennas though, so that's good. 00:06:32.560 --> 00:06:35.840 I'm going to have to dock a couple build quality points for sloppiness, 00:06:35.840 --> 00:06:39.120 but I'm going to give one of them back for going with quality cooling 00:06:39.120 --> 00:06:44.400 and a quality power supply. Those are the kinds of things that are very easy for people to cheap out on 00:06:44.400 --> 00:06:47.440 and take advantage of a not very knowledgeable customer. 00:06:47.440 --> 00:06:49.680 And Miraslaw chose not to do that. 00:06:50.560 --> 00:06:54.800 He was really helpful in other ways. Like instead of just looking at prices on PC Partpicker, 00:06:54.800 --> 00:06:58.160 he actually went and found like bundles on like Canada computers. 00:06:58.160 --> 00:07:04.960 However, the bundle we ended up getting basically was the literal price of buying each of the individual components alone. 00:07:04.960 --> 00:07:08.080 So neither here nor there. All right. 00:07:08.080 --> 00:07:16.000 I mean, they're good parts. Yeah. It was an A for effort. I probably would have done what Keaton did and spent a little more on GPU and a little less on CPU. 00:07:16.000 --> 00:07:20.800 But depending on what we were trying to accomplish, this is a perfectly reasonable parts list as well. 00:07:20.800 --> 00:07:24.720 How was the pickup? Good. A little bit awkward. He's a young guy. 00:07:24.720 --> 00:07:27.760 I think I was pretty awkward at that age as well. You know what I mean? Yeah. 00:07:27.760 --> 00:07:31.200 Just at that age. Just yeah. Thank you. His communication over Facebook was actually really good. 00:07:31.200 --> 00:07:36.560 He sent some photos of the case like I got slightly damaged in transit. 00:07:36.560 --> 00:07:39.760 I can't see it from here. Oh yeah, I see it. Yeah. 00:07:39.760 --> 00:07:43.200 Very slight damages. But he was very upfront with that, which was nice. That's great. 00:07:43.200 --> 00:07:47.440 Nine. Eight. Seven. I think seven. 00:07:47.440 --> 00:07:50.640 Eight. Eight. So far the professionals not looking so hot. 00:07:51.920 --> 00:07:54.960 But the professional might have the performance where it counts. 00:07:57.840 --> 00:08:00.640 Let's pretend we don't know that. Okay. This is true. 00:08:02.160 --> 00:08:06.000 Maybe. Leave them some suspense for crying out loud. 00:08:06.000 --> 00:08:08.800 Now to begin the drag race. Three, two, one. 00:08:10.080 --> 00:08:13.600 And I can already tell that it's not going to be close Adam. 00:08:13.600 --> 00:08:20.800 We are dipping down to 50, 55 FPS on both the professional and teenage engineering. 00:08:21.840 --> 00:08:25.600 Did I see that go over 100? Teenage engineering is screaming right now. 00:08:25.600 --> 00:08:32.400 It's wow. What is up with that? I think it's because of the GPU. It has a predator bifrost, which is like a half blower style card. 00:08:32.400 --> 00:08:35.520 I think he just didn't really tune the fan curves. 00:08:35.520 --> 00:08:39.200 Interesting. He actually did install fan control on this for us. 00:08:39.200 --> 00:08:42.080 And he put a nice big CPU heatsink in here. 00:08:42.720 --> 00:08:46.400 So maybe he just doesn't get bothered by noise and he thought, 00:08:46.400 --> 00:08:50.480 well, let's get everything to run as cool as possible. His temps should be really good. 00:08:50.480 --> 00:08:55.920 We have ray tracing off right now, but it is crazy how neck and neck the 4060 and the 7600 are. 00:08:56.560 --> 00:09:01.520 They're basically the exact same. Though if we turned ray tracing on, this would easily take the lead. 00:09:01.520 --> 00:09:05.120 Yeah. Are you turning ray tracing on on a mid-tier card though? 00:09:05.760 --> 00:09:08.800 I mean, I guess you can. You can. You got DLSS and stuff. 00:09:08.800 --> 00:09:12.560 But we're getting 60 FPS now. Yeah, I know. And it looks pretty good. 00:09:12.560 --> 00:09:18.240 Mind you, we are running at 1440p and the vast majority of people are still gaming at 1080p. 00:09:18.240 --> 00:09:22.320 So you could probably run at 1080 with ray tracing and get similar performance. 00:09:22.320 --> 00:09:31.120 Where did we land in terms of thermals though? The hobbyist was sitting at a peak of about 70 degrees on the CPU and 55 on the GPU. 00:09:31.120 --> 00:09:40.000 Meanwhile, as expected, Teenage Engine hearing didn't manage to get above 54 on the CPU and was at about 58 on the GPU. 00:09:40.000 --> 00:09:44.880 So clearly there's some headroom for us to turn those fans down if we really wanted to. 00:09:45.440 --> 00:09:51.360 As for that mobile CPU, 58 degrees max. 00:09:51.360 --> 00:09:53.920 And on our GPU, we ended up hitting about 70. 00:09:54.560 --> 00:09:58.800 The professional is not the best system so far. 00:09:58.800 --> 00:10:04.720 No. But that could change in Cinebench. Let's see if all those extra cores are going to help out that... 00:10:04.720 --> 00:10:08.240 What is it? 12900HKX. HX. HX. 00:10:08.800 --> 00:10:12.160 All right, ready? Yes. It also takes us. Brother. 00:10:13.200 --> 00:10:20.160 Wow. It may be an engineering sample, but it's professional engineering apparently. 00:10:20.160 --> 00:10:27.200 It does have just core numbers on its side, right? That's 24 threads versus a 12 thread and a 16 thread? 00:10:27.200 --> 00:10:31.040 This is as not close as that last one was in favor of the hobbyist. 00:10:31.920 --> 00:10:35.040 If you are doing something that benefits from multi-threading, 00:10:35.040 --> 00:10:38.080 like say you do a lot of video encoding on CPU, 00:10:38.880 --> 00:10:42.000 the professional looking pretty good for the money. Wow. 00:10:42.000 --> 00:10:46.480 That's a laptop chip. I know, right? And the 5600 is a... 00:10:47.440 --> 00:10:51.520 Well, it's a great choice for gaming. Yeah, cheapest CPU of the lot. 00:10:51.520 --> 00:10:58.800 And that is what we asked for. We asked for 1440P gaming and the hobbyist gave us a better GPU and a lower tier CPU. 00:10:58.800 --> 00:11:08.480 And you can really see that in the results here. Just 11,000 points compared to 14,000 and 19,500. 00:11:08.480 --> 00:11:12.320 But the professional promised that that had the same performance as a 12900K. 00:11:13.120 --> 00:11:17.120 What's the score of a 12900K? 25,000, 27,000. 00:11:17.680 --> 00:11:20.960 So it's not as good. Not even close. 00:11:21.520 --> 00:11:24.720 This is pretty typical for engineering sample chips, you see, 00:11:24.720 --> 00:11:31.760 because they're often not finished. And that even ignores that this poor motherboard is going to have no idea what to do with this thing 00:11:31.760 --> 00:11:38.560 in terms of power limits. We maxed out at 125W, which is kind of within spec. 00:11:39.520 --> 00:11:42.560 But it clearly never stretched beyond that. 00:11:42.560 --> 00:11:48.720 Oh boy, I can already tell in the menu again that teenage engineering is not going to be able to keep up with the hobbyist. 00:11:49.440 --> 00:11:53.680 It's so loud. Now we're looking at Baldur's Gate 3 at 1440p, 00:11:53.680 --> 00:12:01.120 ultra details with no resolution scaling. And once again, the competition is not close. 00:12:01.120 --> 00:12:06.960 The 1% lows on the hobbyist, thanks to that 7700XT GPU, 00:12:06.960 --> 00:12:12.080 are higher than the average frame rates on both of our other systems. 00:12:12.080 --> 00:12:19.040 To be clear, either of these is going to deliver a really smooth gaming experience in Baldur's Gate 3. 00:12:19.040 --> 00:12:22.400 It just won't be nearly as smooth as the hobbyist. 00:12:22.400 --> 00:12:27.680 Between the other two though, the GeForce 4060 manages to outclass the Radeon 7600, 00:12:27.680 --> 00:12:31.520 showing you guys that as bad as NVIDIA's current generation is, 00:12:31.520 --> 00:12:34.640 their competition manages to make them look okay. 00:12:35.200 --> 00:12:39.280 And that engineering sample CPU doesn't seem to be holding it back here, 00:12:39.280 --> 00:12:43.280 in spite of it not being the same as a 1200K. 00:12:43.280 --> 00:12:46.800 Should we give them a score or should we just rank them first to third? 00:12:46.800 --> 00:12:52.480 Either way is going to be complicated, because depending on the application, they're going to vary a little bit. 00:12:52.480 --> 00:12:56.720 Yeah, the hobbyist ran away with it in gaming performance, 00:12:56.720 --> 00:13:00.960 but even if your focus is gaming, it's never a bad idea to have a well-rounded system. 00:13:00.960 --> 00:13:04.880 And you've got to give the professional and teenage engineering some credit here. 00:13:04.880 --> 00:13:10.240 So I'm going to say maybe, you know, 8 for the hobbyist, 00:13:10.240 --> 00:13:13.600 because we did give up a lot in terms of multi-threaded performance, 00:13:14.160 --> 00:13:17.440 but given how much the other ones gave up everywhere else, 00:13:18.400 --> 00:13:22.720 I'd say at best they can have a 5. 5 is perfectly adequate. 00:13:22.720 --> 00:13:24.560 It really is. It's a pass. 00:13:26.480 --> 00:13:29.840 Now we turn to value, and you might think, oh, well, why is that simple? 00:13:29.840 --> 00:13:33.120 It's just performance versus how much you paid. 00:13:33.120 --> 00:13:37.600 But I see a value in, for example, having a warranty on my CPU. 00:13:38.400 --> 00:13:45.760 That's where the professional system falls apart. I see a value in having a power supply that's known more for powering computers 00:13:45.840 --> 00:13:50.640 than for powerful failures, like we've seen from this brand in our Labs testing. 00:13:51.200 --> 00:13:57.680 So for me, the professional, I don't know, 3? 00:13:58.880 --> 00:14:08.720 2? What is this generic RAM? The generic RAM is 32 gigabytes of Samsung DDR4 running at 2666 megahertz CL-19. 00:14:08.720 --> 00:14:13.120 That's twice as much RAM as the other systems. Yeah, it's at half the speed. 00:14:13.120 --> 00:14:20.400 It's slow as heck. 4. In fairness to the pro, those cut corners did allow him to undercut everyone else on pricing. 00:14:20.400 --> 00:14:23.680 But for me, peace of mind is a big part of value. 00:14:23.680 --> 00:14:29.200 And I feel that both the hobbyist and teenage engineering blew him away there. 00:14:29.200 --> 00:14:33.120 For beauty, I think everyone captured the gamer aesthetic pretty well. 00:14:33.120 --> 00:14:37.600 Definite points for the hobbyists use of RGB everywhere. 00:14:37.600 --> 00:14:43.280 But personally, I like to see a big heat sink more than I like to see flashy lights. 00:14:43.280 --> 00:14:46.720 So I think I'm going to give both of these a 9. 00:14:46.720 --> 00:14:50.640 Or at least I would if I didn't look at the cable management at the back. 00:14:51.280 --> 00:14:55.120 Maybe it's not worth $100 to me, but ironically, 00:14:55.120 --> 00:15:02.400 the one with the worst cable management at the front has far better cable management at the back than our hobbyist. 00:15:02.400 --> 00:15:06.880 He's more of a party in the back. Yeah, but that's why it's behind closed doors, right? 00:15:06.880 --> 00:15:10.160 Sorry, Keaton. I think I'm going to have to dock you a point here. 00:15:10.160 --> 00:15:13.920 As for the pro, Jason selected such a bare bones case 00:15:13.920 --> 00:15:16.960 that I think the best I could give it is probably an eight. 00:15:16.960 --> 00:15:20.800 And Adam promised that I would find some interesting surprises 00:15:20.800 --> 00:15:25.200 once I turned it around to the back. This back plate is bowed out. 00:15:25.200 --> 00:15:28.640 That's not a good thing. I don't know if that's to spec or not. 00:15:28.640 --> 00:15:32.400 Nope, it's not. You know what it is? This is a mobile chip. 00:15:32.400 --> 00:15:37.920 It doesn't have an IHS. So it has to go down tighter in order to make contact. 00:15:37.920 --> 00:15:42.640 It is making contact. The thermals were fine, but that's why it's deeper 00:15:42.640 --> 00:15:46.160 than it would otherwise be. Now I'm really curious because I saw listings for this online 00:15:46.160 --> 00:15:49.600 and they showed an image with an IHS. Oh, no, no, you're right. 00:15:49.600 --> 00:15:51.840 There is an IHS on it. Okay, I have no idea then. 00:15:52.640 --> 00:15:56.160 I guess he just really gave her with the screws. You think he gave her with those screws? 00:15:56.160 --> 00:15:59.840 Just wait till you see the M.2 screw. While I was trying to figure out what kind of components 00:15:59.840 --> 00:16:05.680 were in the system so I could try and figure out a relative price to see if he ripped us off with this 1150 thing, 00:16:05.680 --> 00:16:09.520 look at the screw for the SSD. He just chucked a random screw in here. 00:16:09.520 --> 00:16:13.920 There's no standoff. Yeah, and not just any random screw. 00:16:14.960 --> 00:16:17.920 A wood screw. Oh, so it is. 00:16:18.640 --> 00:16:22.400 Can you retroactively cut it? Six. When you find stuff like this, 00:16:22.400 --> 00:16:25.520 it really makes you question everything else about the system. 00:16:25.520 --> 00:16:28.560 With the scores tallied up, surprisingly, everybody gets a pass. 00:16:29.120 --> 00:16:32.560 Yeah, the professional was just barely, but to his credit, 00:16:32.560 --> 00:16:35.520 it is a functioning system and he didn't ghost us 00:16:35.600 --> 00:16:40.400 or scam us outright, but it's clear that to actually win the challenge, 00:16:40.400 --> 00:16:44.240 we're only really looking at teenage engineering and the hobbyist. 00:16:44.240 --> 00:16:47.920 And at the end of the day, with the points we had to dock from teenage engineering 00:16:47.920 --> 00:16:54.160 for choosing a SATA SSD and going with a more powerful CPU for a 1440p gaming system, 00:16:54.720 --> 00:16:59.360 even ignoring the $100 build cost, which by the way is perfectly reasonable, 00:17:00.080 --> 00:17:03.120 we've got to give it to the hobbyist who we're about to meet. 00:17:03.680 --> 00:17:06.480 Hey, how's it going? Hey, Kaden, how's it going? It is Kaden, right? That's good. 00:17:10.480 --> 00:17:12.960 I forgot to get the screen recording started. Oh my God, you guys. That's okay. 00:17:13.760 --> 00:17:17.120 Hey, sorry, technical difficulties. Thanks for taking my call. 00:17:18.160 --> 00:17:22.160 Just to be upfront with you, there's nothing wrong with the computer. Have you ever heard of Linus Tech Tips? 00:17:22.160 --> 00:17:25.520 Yes. Okay, well, he'd like to say something to you. 00:17:25.520 --> 00:17:28.480 He's got some good news for you. Hey, Kaden, nice system. Oh, hey. 00:17:29.040 --> 00:17:32.880 How you doing? Thank you. Oh my God, this is ridiculous. 00:17:32.880 --> 00:17:36.640 Hey, I just wanted to say, you built a heck of a system for the money, 00:17:36.640 --> 00:17:42.080 but I got a question. What's going on here? You didn't even charge us a build fee or anything like that. 00:17:42.080 --> 00:17:47.360 Do you really just do this for the fun of it? I've been building computers since I was like 10 with my dad. 00:17:47.360 --> 00:17:50.880 Like I work from home as a project manager, so I have a lot of free time. 00:17:50.880 --> 00:17:54.400 I want to take it with computers more often, but I don't want to go and buy used parts 00:17:54.400 --> 00:17:59.360 and get people good deals and things. I don't have that much time, but I figured I'd like just do free builds 00:17:59.360 --> 00:18:03.840 and make sure like, you know, the tweaking's done right. I don't know. I just like helping people a lot, 00:18:03.840 --> 00:18:07.200 and I feel like computer stores are kind of like 00:18:07.200 --> 00:18:11.040 not where they used to be, and they're not really offering that kind of like premium service anymore. 00:18:11.040 --> 00:18:15.200 So the challenge was that we actually gave the same budget 00:18:15.200 --> 00:18:21.760 to three different people on Facebook Marketplace, chosen randomly, and whoever won, 00:18:21.760 --> 00:18:25.040 whoever gave us the best value system for our dollars, 00:18:25.040 --> 00:18:28.720 gets the system back so they can resell it to someone else. 00:18:28.720 --> 00:18:33.440 So it's not that I don't love it. You did a great job, but you won, man. 00:18:34.480 --> 00:18:37.440 So this is yours. It's free real estate. Oh, wow. 00:18:38.160 --> 00:18:41.280 Dude, that's crazy. That's awesome. Thank you so much. I really appreciate that. 00:18:41.280 --> 00:18:44.640 So about how many of these systems do you do on a monthly basis? 00:18:44.640 --> 00:18:49.520 How many people reach out to you? Personally, I probably do one to two a month. 00:18:49.520 --> 00:18:54.560 It's not like something that's super common. I guess people like partly think it's a trust barrier. 00:18:54.560 --> 00:18:57.600 It's like, you don't want to leave parts with someone who you don't know. 00:18:57.600 --> 00:19:02.080 Who does this for fun? Yeah, absolutely. What a weird thing to tell people, you know? 00:19:02.080 --> 00:19:06.080 I get how it sounds. But honestly, I like building computers. 00:19:06.080 --> 00:19:10.320 I like playing with computers. Yeah, it's a passion of mine, and I enjoy it. 00:19:10.320 --> 00:19:13.360 And I can do this and help people at the same time. 00:19:13.360 --> 00:19:16.720 I think it's a really awesome thing to do. Cool. All right. See you later, man. 00:19:16.720 --> 00:19:20.960 Yeah, so awesome. Thanks so much. We weren't able to get Teenage Engineering on a video call, 00:19:20.960 --> 00:19:24.800 but we reached out asking, hey, is this a viable side hustle 00:19:24.800 --> 00:19:28.800 about how many systems do you do? And he said he's got about four of them on the go right now. 00:19:28.800 --> 00:19:31.840 So while it is difficult to break into, 00:19:31.840 --> 00:19:34.400 it looks like some people are making a go of it. 00:19:34.960 --> 00:19:40.320 So in conclusion, your mileage is absolutely going to vary. And being a savvy shopper, as always, 00:19:40.320 --> 00:19:44.080 is going to go a long way towards making sure that you're getting the most for your money. 00:19:44.080 --> 00:19:50.800 But it's clear that there's a alive and well or maybe even vibrant ecosystem of buyers and sellers 00:19:50.800 --> 00:19:54.400 on these marketplaces. So if you want to try your luck, 00:19:54.400 --> 00:19:59.040 hey, it might not be the stupidest thing in the world. And you might get super lucky 00:19:59.040 --> 00:20:02.160 and find someone like Keaton who just loves helping people. 00:20:02.160 --> 00:20:06.000 Or you might even find this segue to our sponsor. If you guys enjoyed this video, 00:20:06.000 --> 00:20:10.000 you might enjoy the time we bought systems from the major system integrators 00:20:10.000 --> 00:20:15.360 rather than from randoms on Facebook marketplace. Honestly, this seemed like kind of a better rally overall, 00:20:15.360 --> 00:20:17.920 but hey, I'll let you guys be the judge. See you later.