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Live stream. Okay. It should be live now.

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Wonderful. Tremendous. Treybyen.

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Ah, okay. Am I in the... Oh.

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Is it number two? Number two.

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Here we go. Okay. Cool. All right.

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So what time are we set to go live? 9.40? 9.45.

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9.45. That's maybe too long. I think we...

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I mean, you can technically go live whenever you want. It'll still push. Get this... It is going. Oh, okay. Sure. Okay. Minimizing that.

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Minimizing that.

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So the ping call is still being used for my video, right? That's right.

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Okay. But for some reason, I can't see

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loose video. Wait. I could see it in this little window here.

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Okay. Well, I can make that work.

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Ah, okay. Pop out chat.

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Live.

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Okay.

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Oh my god. You can't... I can't make this

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window any narrower.

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Oh my god. That is so infuriating.

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Okay. Back to my notes.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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All right. I think I am set up. Are we good?

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Yeah, I think we'll be okay.

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Linus, your nose looks huge. Well, then this is as honest as I've ever been about it then.

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I think it's the, I think it's the side light, the hard side lighting that's coming in, but it looks like Barbara Streisand sized.

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It does look way bigger than normal. It's got to be the side lighting.

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I've never seen your nose look so big. I look like a toucan. Is it the type of lens?

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It looks like you have a prosthetic nose on top of your nose.

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I promise you, I do not.

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That would be a really funny thing to do. Just tell no one and make a like very minor but noticeable change.

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What are you guys talking about? Nothing happened.

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Should I, should I close the blinds? I don't know. You know what? Let's just roll with it.

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I think it's funny, whatever. Okay, we good to go?

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, it's definitely time to rethink remote Wancho setups, but yeah, theoretically this audio setup was tested and I was going to...

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Well, no, the mic was tested. This is what I was talking about in the pre-shows.

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We might want to start doing like full setup tests where you have to use like the laptop that is going on the trip.

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That was sort of the plan, but you went back to back.

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Back to back. You were remote last week, Linus is remote this week.

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Nice. Yeah, we are going to be planning full kits.

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If that's part of the problem that we're having, we're only getting part of the test.

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All right, should we do this thing? I hear you too. I would hope so.

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Okay, I'm going to press it.

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Jake claims you're using the laptop mic.

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I'm not. Jake is wrong. All right.

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But now he's making me...

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Here, if this mutes it...

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Yeah.

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I think he said maybe or something. I exaggerated his words a little bit.

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Pretty frustrating.

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Every headset mic sounds asked for me.

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They're always memeing about it when we play tapes of tape.

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Linus, your headset mic is so bad. How do you have a million dollars in computers or whatever

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and you can't have a decent headset mic, but it's the blue add-on mic for the Logitech Pro or whatever, G Pro.

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It's a good microphone and it sounds great when anyone else uses it.

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Is there a reason you guys don't like using Labs when you go and do these remote?

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I don't care at all. Just give me some.

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Yeah, I don't care. I think one of the problems is...

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Oh my God. Wait.

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Can the tentacle be used as an audio interface?

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I have no idea. Do you have one?

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Yes. Just try it, I think. I don't know.

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Well, I could just look it up. That would be also an idea.

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Sure. ChadGPT it.

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Can I interface with the tentacle and then you just get the wrong answers?

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Vaughn, we haven't even started yet, so feel free to do whatever.

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Okay.

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Also, yes, I'm sick for the people asking.

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Yeah, no, I can't find it. Oh, sorry. One sec.

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All right. What I'm finding is maybe.

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Yes, you can use a tentacle lab as an audio interface, but with some clarification.

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A tentacle lab is primarily a wireless...

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It doesn't function as a traditional audio interface, which typically involves connecting to a computer

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and facilitating communication, blah, blah, blah. However, if you're looking to use a tentacle lab for recording audio on your computer...

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Yeah.

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Tentacle Sync Studio.

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Tentacle Track E Labelier Recorder with timecode cannot function as an audio interface

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because it lacks USB audio functionality. Does your tentacle... Does your model of tentacle have USB?

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Yeah. Okay.

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What model is it?

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I can find out one sec.

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Jake has an interesting suggestion here.

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He said, does your headset have an unplugable mic? If so, plug the lav into that maybe.

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No, it doesn't.

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There'll be a Track E.

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The response that I got says that the Track E will not work.

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Can you plug in the headset via USB?

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The headset? This might be low Bluetooth quality.

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Oh, yeah, maybe. I can try that.

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Also, someone said the headsets will sound the same on all laptops.

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It's not like it's the configuration of the laptop.

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So if the laptop is doing weird auto-gain things or other junk,

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then having that solved ahead of time would be good.

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Oh, is he on laptop mic right now? I assume so.

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Okay. Notice we just got AC sound.

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Yeah.

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Okay, let me get this configured now.

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Yeah.

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Make sure it's USB not Bluetooth.

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It sounds kind of like Bluetooth audio doubling level.

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Oh, my God.

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Devices. Here we go.

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Yeah, judging by the quality of that, I think this is a Bluetooth issue.

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Hmm.

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Funky.

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Maybe it doesn't even support it. Jake, I tried to use G4's broadcast when I was in Florida.

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It was like melting my laptop.

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Bummer. I think I need a new laptop.

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Okay, well, this does not work.

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It only charges, unfortunately.

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Oh, the tentacle? No, the headset.

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Oh. Now, you're using the headset's dongle thing, right?

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Okay.

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Okay.

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People are saying you sound good now, but you need a noise gate.

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No, Sharf, just me.

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Don't think I have...

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This is supposed to have its own 2.4 gig dongle.

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You're using the dongle? I'm going back to the dongle.

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It doesn't work with the dongle. It doesn't work with the dongle?

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It doesn't work without the dongle.

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Oh, but you're using the dongle, not Bluetooth.

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Yeah, I'm using the dongle. Okay.

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Okay, I can go back to the MacBook if you guys want,

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or how do I sound right now?

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Okay, I'm back on the MacBook now.

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I turned off the air conditioning.

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Let's bring it down here a little bit.

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Try again. It's definitely auto-gaining like crazy,

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and there is no obvious way for me to change that.

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I can balance it here. Okay, we can do that.

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I mean, we tested the MacBook before,

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and it was apparently really bad, so...

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And then they said it was good, now they're saying it's worse.

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They're undecided. Wow, it's audio stuff. Everyone's surprised.

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There's also Linus's iPhone with Continuity,

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which we tried before as well.

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She's using the laptop. I think that'll be fine.

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Okay, all right, MacBook Air then.

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Okay, so I turned the AC off, so is the background noise okay,

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or is it kind of echoey? Yeah, that's better.

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Let's see how hot it gets by the end of this show.

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Should I just punch it?

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Luke, you good? Sure, dude, whatever works.

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Okay, one second, I just need to give Yvonne a quick heads up.

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Yvonne, just so you know, I'm using my laptop microphone,

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so any background noise will be extremely audible.

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Well, no, like, you can brush your teeth. I just mean, like, if you were to say something,

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then I'd be able to pick up words. You could just close that door and then you're good.

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Okay.

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Okay, are we ready?

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Okay, I'm punching it. Sure.

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All right.

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What's up, everyone?

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Welcome to The Wancho. We've got a great show lined up for you this week.

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I am pleased to announce that the U.S. government appears to be amenable

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to freedom cities, corporate-run cities with laxer laws.

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And you guys have heard us talk before about Linestown.

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This might be just the opportunity to get it started up.

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And Luke, you're going to be the first resident, right?

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Of course, of course, of course. Heck, yeah.

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In other news, MSI has announced yet another variation of the RTX 5070

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that you can't buy, bringing their total to 19 different RTX 5070s you can't buy.

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So we're going to be talking a little bit about what exactly it is

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that inspires board makers to continue releasing more models

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that rely on a supply-constrained part, like...

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Yeah. What else we got this week?

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Pokemon Go has been sold to the Saudi Arabia's public investment fund

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and Microsoft teases co-pilot for gaming,

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which is probably the last thing I wanted to hear about from AI.

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Cool. Nice.

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I can't roll the intro, so... Oh.

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Luke. Ugh. The show is brought to you today by ServerPartDeals.

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Delete me. And oh, do. Of course, with some help from our RAP partner Dbrand,

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our laptop partner Dell and our chair partner Secret Lab,

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whose chair I am, oh, yeah, really enjoying right now for sure.

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Definitely sitting in a Secret Lab chair, 100%.

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Yeah. What do we want to get into first here?

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Whoever prepared this Freedom Cities topic,

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boy, did they ever put in the work, and that's probably a good thing because it's a bit of a prickly topic

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and certainly a little polarizing. So why don't we just go through the notes and then we can talk about Freedom Cities.

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Sound pretty good? Sound pretty good. Yeah.

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Lobbying groups in the United States representing startup nations are drafting congressional legislation

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that is aimed at creating what they call Freedom Cities.

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Okay. We're going off script already.

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Isn't this just company towns?

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Yeah, isn't it? That's immediately what I thought.

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I haven't dove into this enough. I actually got really excited when I saw all these notes,

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because again, whoever did this, great, because I haven't done the time to research this properly,

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but I'm happy that somebody did. But yeah, immediately, company towns,

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I saw comments on it that were immediately calling out company towns. Those were a massive failure in America.

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If these notes don't have, what is it?

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Oh, my soul to the company store. If that's not in here, then that's a major swing and a miss.

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Yeah. For those of you who are not familiar with the history,

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company towns were, well, pretty much this.

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They were areas with looser regulation,

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pretty much nothing in terms of workers' rights.

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And one of the biggest grifts or biggest scams in company towns

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was that they would pay you with credits

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that could only be used at the company store.

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Some even went as far as to only allow the person

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who was issued the credits to spend them.

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So they couldn't even be traded to someone outside of the company

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to use it in the company store.

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It was only usable by you.

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And then because, you know, the company town controls

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who's allowed to have a store in it, only they were allowed to have the store.

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They jacked up the price and essentially put you in a position

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where you were completely at their mercy and couldn't save any money.

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Okay, sorry, sorry, sorry. I'm coming back. I'm coming back to the notes here.

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So they imagine that these freedom cities,

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okay, so that's how we're going to distinguish. When we're talking about the historical side of it,

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we're going to talk about company towns. And when we talk about the current version,

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we're going to call them freedom cities.

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And I use my air quotes here, extremely air-quoty.

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Okay, so these freedom cities should be free

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of certain restrictive federal regulations

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that impede innovation. They will be governed by corporations

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and in some instances should pay less in tax.

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According to one of the groups that is lobbying for these,

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named the Freedom Cities Coalition,

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freedom cities are a once-in-a-generation opportunity

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to solve the housing crisis,

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bring American manufacturing home,

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and unleash the full potential of American entrepreneurs

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through the creation of special districts called

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Prosperity Zones.

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Seriously, this is like, sorry, we're going off script again.

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This is like straight out of freaking bio shock.

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This has literally existed many times in literature

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and exists in literature because it has existed

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many times in reality and we all know how it ends.

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So it's like relatable to write fiction about

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because it's not that fiction.

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According to Wired,

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the goal of these cities is, ostensibly,

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to create safe havens for anti-aging clinical trials,

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nuclear power startups, manufacturing hubs and shipbuilding ports,

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and basically avoid scrutiny from agencies

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like the Food and Drug Administration, Nuclear Regulatory Commission,

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and Environmental Protection Agency.

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Nuclear Regulatory Commission?

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Man, so they want to do unregulated drug testing.

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It's basically the main thing that I'm reading from this.

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We want to experiment on humans and we don't want to get in trouble for it.

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Yeah, and don't forget that they want to experiment

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on nuclear reactors and don't want anybody looking at it.

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Nice. And don't forget that they want to do whatever they want

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to the environment and not have anybody look at it.

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See, that's the thing about the environment

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is that it's the environment.

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It affects everyone around you. You see that wild thing

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where what's there not some like blocked a river

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from running into a rock. If you nuclear something

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or you extinct a species or whatever,

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that actually impacts everyone.

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So, yeah, that's why you have it everywhere.

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Cool. Anyway, Trey Goff, the chief of staff

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of the Startup Nation

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slash Freedom City Prospera.

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Man, that is such a... Honestly, I don't think I could come up

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with a more dystopian sounding name

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for a company town. I completely agree, but why does it sound so dystopian?

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Is it like 1950s,

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like American dream,

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like Bioshock stuff? Like, is it Bioshock?

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Are we thinking Bioshock? Oh, well, Bioshock was already like super derivative.

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So, it's just the most modern gamer culture example

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that I could think of. 1950s fascist romanticism said war.

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I think Neitohan in Floatplane chat nailed it.

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It sounds propagandistic.

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Propagandist, whatever. It sounds like propaganda.

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And yeah, that's exactly it. It immediately gives me the egg

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because if something causes prosperity,

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you don't have to call it that, you know?

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The New York Stock Exchange

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isn't called the New York Prosperity Exchange

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because by calling it a stock exchange,

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you acknowledge that it doesn't just go up.

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You know, whereas Prospera,

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it just makes it sound like everyone prospers.

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I mean, I think it's... Well, we could talk about it in a little more detail later,

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but I pretty much promise you that the people who are being subject

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to these, you know, human drug trials

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are not the ones that are going to be prospering

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from all of this. They may make some financial gains,

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but the irony of seeing the groups

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that are the proponents of this

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and the groups that are sort of generally against things

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like vaccinations being the same people

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is sort of funny to me, I guess.

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I don't know. Good luck, everybody.

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What else we got going on here?

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So, anyway, Trey Goff. Josie... Josie?

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Hopefully I'm saying that right. Mayday in full-point chat said China has them.

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They're called special economic zones and have contributed significantly

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to Chinese dominance in manufacturing, which to me sounds like...

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Yeah, that's just another way of saying that you can have forced labor there.

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Yeah. Forced labor is a really good,

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really good way to dominate manufacturing.

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That's true. Very effective.

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It's... High amount of effectiveness.

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Yeah, it's effective, but it's the kind of thing that as someone

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who might end up living in a...

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in Prospera at some point or in a prosperity city or freedom city or whatever,

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you shouldn't be voting for this if you are not in the billionaire class.

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Like, 100%.

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Okay, so anyway, Trey Goff, chief of staff of the Startup Nation

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slash Freedom City Prospera, says that he and others from his company,

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working under a lobbying group called the Freedom Cities Coalition,

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have been meeting with the Trump administration about the idea recently,

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and says that the administration has been very receptive.

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Prospera hopes to create as many of these zones

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as the market can handle and hope to have drafted legislation ready

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by the end of the year. Now, here's the thing, though.

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Prospera is not, like, coming out of nowhere here.

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They actually have a Freedom City already.

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Prospera opened on the Honduran island of Roatan.

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Pardon me if I said the name wrong, but whatever, it doesn't change the facts.

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In 2020, they have attracted tech workers and startups

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with the promise of lower taxes, fewer regulations,

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and... it just says a governing body,

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but I think the notes might have cut off there anyway.

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But the main points are lower taxes and fewer regulations.

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Ah, yes, and a corporate governing body. Startup nations or Freedom Cities like this

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outside the U.S. have relied on the creation of special economic zones

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where standard business regulations are waived in order to attract foreign investment.

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Notably, the current Honduran government

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considers Prospera's special economic status

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to be illegal, despite the previous president

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giving them a permanent charter to operate on their own terms.

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Many Honduran citizens opposed Prospera,

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arguing that it increased poverty and worsened biodiversity in the area,

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and in 2022, Honduran Congress repealed the law

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that allowed for the creation of these special economic zones

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and in future to abolish existing special economic zones,

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classifying the law as a violation of national sovereignty.

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The Honduran government is currently being sued

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for $11 billion by Prospera over this reversal of their policy.

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Oh, man.

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The Freedom Cities Coalition was created by Niue Capital LLC,

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which owns several trademarks for Prospera,

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and is in part financed by Pernomos Capital, a VC firm

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backed by former PayPal CEO Peter Thiel,

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Mark Anderson, and Coinbase.

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Yep, makes sense.

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There are other groups that are lobbying for Freedom Cities in the U.S.,

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including the Frontier Foundation and the Charter Cities Institute,

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and Wired obtained a memo from 2025

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in which the Frontier Foundation argues that domestic innovation and production

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has been significantly impeded for decades

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by outdated and unnecessarily restrictive federal regulation.

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Some of these groups are pushing to use federal land

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to build these cities, so they basically want the federal government

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to give them, like,

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I mean, I guess in Canada we call it Crown Land,

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so, yeah, federal government land.

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Or maybe they want to buy it? Oh, man.

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This is wild.

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Companies are already taking advantage of startup nations like MiniCircle,

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a biotech company that focuses on gene therapy treatments

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designed to extend human lifespans.

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They have an office in Prospera, and co-founder Mac Davis says

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their recent gene therapy clinical trial on the protein fallastatin,

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which he claims increases muscle mass without side effects

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and has life-extending benefits in mice, was only possible in Prospera.

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Davis added that he could imagine other companies benefiting

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from Freedom Cities like SpaceX, which has been working on incorporating its own city

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around their Texas Starship Factory in Spaceport.

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Oh!

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Opinion. This is hilarious.

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It is unlikely that deregulation will benefit anyone

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outside of Freedom Cities' wealthy backers.

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Oh, Gil Durin, former political consultant

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and author of Substack Newsletter,

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Nerd Reich, claims these are going to be cities without democracy.

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These are going to be cities without workers' rights. These are going to be cities where the owners of the city,

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the corporations, the billionaires, have all the power and everyone else has no power.

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That is what's so attractive about these sovereign entities to these people is that they will actually be anti-Freedom cities.

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So, it's time for us to talk about this.

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It's hilarious that we can make these kinds of arguments

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and that anyone takes them seriously when history has shown so clearly and so obviously

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and so repeatedly that it's a terrible, terrible idea.

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And basically works out to be feudalism

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without any of the good things about feudalism, like the copious amounts of vacation time.

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Yeah, I don't really have a lot to say.

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I know a long time ago,

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and we even got an approach for it at one point,

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but I think it was Sweden was doing like a startup city thing,

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where they had an old millet.

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I might get some of this wrong. I might get a decent amount of this wrong.

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It's just been too long. If I remember correctly, they had an old military base,

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so they had decent power and decent networking

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and some of the old barracks and stuff like that.

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But not like barracks, like basically an extended tent with bunks,

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like barracks, it was like an apartment building, effectively.

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And they retrofitted it, did a bunch of renovations and stuff,

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and basically turned it into a town.

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And they were like, well, it's got fantastic internet, it's got fantastic power, and we turned it into a town.

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So we want to populate this area. So we're going to make it like a startup town,

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and we'll give funding to startup companies

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and we'll make the housing really cheap and stuff, and we'll basically seed the population here

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by making it really good for business by giving them tax breaks,

00:33:42.240 --> 00:33:45.240
making it easy for people to move here. So if you want to start up, well,

00:33:45.240 --> 00:33:49.240
you're people that you're probably paying through stock or whatever can get relatively cheap housing.

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You have good internet, there's good business support, stuff like that.

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And as far as where they're sending goes, it worked and they're able to effectively set up a new city.

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And natural infrastructure shows up around that.

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If you have a few thousand people in an area, a little restaurant will pop up there

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or whatever else will start happening, and then it just grew over time. Yeah, for sure.

00:34:07.240 --> 00:34:11.240
So there are ways to sort of do some of the benefits

00:34:11.240 --> 00:34:14.240
that you're looking for from this.

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But, you know, not the complete deregulation stuff.

00:34:19.240 --> 00:34:24.240
It's just wild to me that they're being so transparent

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about what it is that they want.

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And that we're not kind of going, whoa, red flag, red flag, red flag.

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It's like, yeah, we want to do human drug trials

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without any regulatory scrutiny.

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Yeah, but like that's the part that you,

00:34:42.240 --> 00:34:46.240
you know, that's the part that you gotcha later.

00:34:46.240 --> 00:34:49.240
That's the part that you, you know,

00:34:49.240 --> 00:34:53.240
that's the fraud boiling. You know, you don't say upfront, like, yeah,

00:34:53.240 --> 00:34:57.240
we want to do human drug trials without anyone paying any attention.

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So I am going to say something that is,

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I want to make very clear, is me playing devil's advocate here.

00:35:07.240 --> 00:35:13.240
Oh boy. Because I do not believe that the complete removal

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of regulations that are designed to keep everyday citizens safe is a good idea.

00:35:18.240 --> 00:35:22.240
I think that's an experiment that we've,

00:35:22.240 --> 00:35:27.240
hold on. I think that's an experiment that we've run enough times

00:35:27.240 --> 00:35:31.240
to know that we don't need to run this experiment again.

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But here's what I will say.

00:35:35.240 --> 00:35:38.240
You made an argument a little while back

00:35:38.240 --> 00:35:42.240
with regards to AI where you basically said,

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okay, well, from the, yo, look at the look on his face.

00:35:46.240 --> 00:35:49.240
I think he knows where I'm going, but he's not going to cut me off for a change.

00:35:49.240 --> 00:35:53.240
You made an argument about AI recently

00:35:53.240 --> 00:35:56.240
where you were like, well, okay,

00:35:56.240 --> 00:35:59.240
the horse is out of the stable,

00:35:59.240 --> 00:36:03.240
you know, every other country that has no copyright,

00:36:04.240 --> 00:36:08.240
is going to train their AIs on copyrighted materials.

00:36:08.240 --> 00:36:13.240
So we either just say, okay, screw it.

00:36:13.240 --> 00:36:18.240
We don't worry about copyrighted materials, goodbye laws, or we lose.

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We lose the AI race.

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And here, here is what I will say.

00:36:25.240 --> 00:36:30.240
Is that not fundamentally the exact same argument

00:36:30.240 --> 00:36:32.240
that these guys are making?

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We are losing in manufacturing.

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We are losing in drug development.

00:36:41.240 --> 00:36:48.240
We are losing in private sector, nuclear innovation.

00:36:48.240 --> 00:36:51.240
We just need to yolo the same way

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that our competitors are yoloing, because you know that in the Middle East,

00:36:56.240 --> 00:37:01.240
they're going to yolo. You know China's going to yolo.

00:37:01.240 --> 00:37:04.240
That appears to be their argument.

00:37:04.240 --> 00:37:07.240
And if we draw the parallel to your AI argument

00:37:07.240 --> 00:37:13.240
where we basically go, yeah, our laws that are in many cases good laws

00:37:13.240 --> 00:37:18.240
meant to protect people, meant to protect whether it's rights holders,

00:37:18.240 --> 00:37:22.240
in the case of copyright, from having their works used to train AIs

00:37:22.240 --> 00:37:26.240
that will ultimately steal their jobs, or whether it's to protect people from,

00:37:26.240 --> 00:37:30.240
you know, turning into nightmare science experiments,

00:37:30.240 --> 00:37:33.240
because of unregulated drug testing or whatever.

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Are these laws going to hold back America?

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I'm sure in some ways they will, but I also think deregulating nuclear

00:37:46.240 --> 00:37:50.240
might hold back America pretty dramatically as well.

00:37:50.240 --> 00:37:53.240
As much as breaking copyright is like horrible

00:37:53.240 --> 00:38:00.240
for lots of people, I think the impact of just allowing slave labor

00:38:00.240 --> 00:38:04.240
in the States, if that's what making manufacturing better is,

00:38:04.240 --> 00:38:08.240
or deregulating nuclear

00:38:08.240 --> 00:38:12.240
has much more negative potential impact

00:38:12.240 --> 00:38:15.240
than the admittedly really brutal impact

00:38:15.240 --> 00:38:20.240
of just everyone's copyright being effectively meaningless moving forward.

00:38:20.240 --> 00:38:23.240
But yeah, I don't know. It's an interesting one.

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I feel like they are trying to be blatant

00:38:28.240 --> 00:38:33.240
about what they're trying to do so that when somebody goes,

00:38:33.240 --> 00:38:36.240
whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, and tries to turn this around

00:38:36.240 --> 00:38:39.240
after they've already been established, they can sue the crap out of the country.

00:38:39.240 --> 00:38:42.240
That feels like the reason for them being blatant to me.

00:38:42.240 --> 00:38:46.240
I could be wrong, but I'm not sure. You could be right. They have much more ground to stand on

00:38:46.240 --> 00:38:49.240
if they were very clear about their intentions the entire time.

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Also, I think they're really pushing

00:38:55.240 --> 00:38:58.240
the manufacturing thing in order to appeal

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to the current administration who has been talking about bringing manufacturing

00:39:02.240 --> 00:39:08.240
back to the States. But I suspect due to how quickly

00:39:08.240 --> 00:39:13.240
they shifted off of manufacturing and started going, yeah, but all this other like

00:39:13.240 --> 00:39:20.240
cool stuff would happen too, that really the focus would be on unregulated testing.

00:39:20.240 --> 00:39:25.240
So drug testing on humans, nuclear development,

00:39:25.240 --> 00:39:30.240
stuff like that. And I think there's, I don't know.

00:39:30.240 --> 00:39:34.240
I don't know enough about those arenas. I know more about the AI stuff.

00:39:34.240 --> 00:39:39.240
So I feel like saying anything there would be a problem

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because I don't know enough about it, but I'm not like certain that we are

00:39:45.240 --> 00:39:50.240
that Americans are falling behind in that regard. Like I think American pharmaceutical companies

00:39:50.240 --> 00:39:53.240
are still running most things.

00:39:53.240 --> 00:39:57.240
There's the weight loss stuff that as far as my understanding goes,

00:39:57.240 --> 00:40:01.240
they're not doing the best at right now. I think the Dutch or something

00:40:01.240 --> 00:40:07.240
have the fancy one that everybody likes. I don't remember the name of it, whatever.

00:40:07.240 --> 00:40:13.240
But the Dutch is still pretty the West in terms of like clinical trial regulations.

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That's the one. Is that Sweden? I don't know.

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I don't know much about it, but I know that one's like not American or something.

00:40:19.240 --> 00:40:23.240
So okay, maybe they lost that race, but like they seem to win most

00:40:23.240 --> 00:40:28.240
when it comes to pharmaceutical stuff. So I don't know that that's necessarily happening.

00:40:28.240 --> 00:40:30.240
And then nuclear like,

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I don't know. I don't feel like you need to deregulate it.

00:40:35.240 --> 00:40:39.240
I don't know that America is necessarily leading nuclear,

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but like you almost never hear America talk about nuclear.

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Maybe you should like care about it more

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and then you do fine probably.

00:40:50.240 --> 00:40:53.240
Dude, I think that the main issue is that

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I said I didn't know. Leave me alone.

00:40:56.240 --> 00:40:59.240
I don't know who it is. I don't care about his epic, whatever.

00:40:59.240 --> 00:41:03.240
The main issue is that there's no real alignment, right?

00:41:03.240 --> 00:41:07.240
Like on the one hand, it's like, yeah, more cool.

00:41:07.240 --> 00:41:10.240
Let's bring back coal, make it great.

00:41:10.240 --> 00:41:15.240
And then on the other hand, it's like, yeah, there's too much regulatory crap around nuclear.

00:41:17.240 --> 00:41:21.240
Nuclear, I thought you wanted more clean coal.

00:41:21.240 --> 00:41:28.240
What are we doing here exactly? It seems a little unfocused to put it mildly.

00:41:29.240 --> 00:41:34.240
Yeah, and this thing is a crazy bullet.

00:41:34.240 --> 00:41:37.240
I would feel, okay, to be clear,

00:41:37.240 --> 00:41:41.240
I'm not saying I would feel comfortable. I'm not saying I would feel more comfortable

00:41:41.240 --> 00:41:45.240
if it was, if they were specific, I think.

00:41:46.240 --> 00:41:52.240
And like one at a time was approved. If they were like, you know, we're going to pick this one area

00:41:52.240 --> 00:41:55.240
way out in the desert like we have before,

00:41:55.240 --> 00:41:59.240
where we're going to do maybe not, not regulated,

00:41:59.240 --> 00:42:02.240
but less regulated nuclear testing or something like that.

00:42:02.240 --> 00:42:08.240
Or maybe it's not less regulated, but they have people from the nuclear, whatever thing,

00:42:08.240 --> 00:42:12.240
that are on site all the time. Yeah, fast-tracking.

00:42:12.240 --> 00:42:16.240
Yes, so they can fast-track stuff, fast-track approvals, do whatever,

00:42:16.240 --> 00:42:19.240
like have a like rapid development zone, basically,

00:42:19.240 --> 00:42:22.240
where it's like an area that is made for that,

00:42:22.240 --> 00:42:26.240
and you have government officials like on site that are able to look at things

00:42:26.240 --> 00:42:30.240
and approve things more quickly and keep the wheels of progress moving like that.

00:42:30.240 --> 00:42:34.240
That sounds like interesting to me, but just a blanket like, yeah, we're going to build

00:42:34.240 --> 00:42:38.240
as many of these cities as we possibly can, and who knows, I don't know, maybe company store,

00:42:38.240 --> 00:42:41.240
maybe slave labor, maybe drug practices, maybe nuclear stuff.

00:42:41.240 --> 00:42:44.240
I don't know, like that, that's just, it's too,

00:42:44.240 --> 00:42:49.240
it's too wild to me. I think there's ways to accomplish the goal here

00:42:49.240 --> 00:42:52.240
that isn't just giving people the blanket ability

00:42:52.240 --> 00:42:55.240
to not have laws, I don't know.

00:42:55.240 --> 00:42:58.240
And like, I want to make this very clear

00:42:58.240 --> 00:43:01.240
that from a business owner standpoint,

00:43:01.240 --> 00:43:06.240
I find the land zoning

00:43:06.240 --> 00:43:11.240
and building code and regulatory hurdles

00:43:11.240 --> 00:43:15.240
that we have in place here very stifling.

00:43:15.240 --> 00:43:20.240
Yep, and I'm sure they are, and honestly, I doubt they're as stifling,

00:43:20.240 --> 00:43:24.240
but I'm sure they're also very, very annoying to deal with in the States.

00:43:24.240 --> 00:43:27.240
Yep, and so here, I'll give an example.

00:43:27.240 --> 00:43:30.240
In the badminton center, okay,

00:43:30.240 --> 00:43:36.240
if you guys remember any of the tours that we've done, there's a wall down the middle between the two halves.

00:43:36.240 --> 00:43:39.240
Okay, so one half is going to be always badminton

00:43:39.240 --> 00:43:43.240
all the time. The other half is wired up for land parties

00:43:43.240 --> 00:43:46.240
like eSports gaming events, that sort of thing,

00:43:46.240 --> 00:43:49.240
so it's got all the power and networking and everything.

00:43:49.240 --> 00:43:53.240
We have four doors in between the two sides, because under normal circumstances,

00:43:53.240 --> 00:43:58.240
people need to be able to cross over if their group is, you know, split across courts on two sides,

00:43:58.240 --> 00:44:02.240
or if we have a tournament or something that's using the whole facility

00:44:02.240 --> 00:44:06.240
and someone has their bag over here, we don't want them to have to hike all the way around

00:44:06.240 --> 00:44:12.240
to the one door to get to the other side. So at our expense, we put a bunch of doors in that wall

00:44:12.240 --> 00:44:18.240
so people could cross through. Again, at our expense, we put access control

00:44:18.240 --> 00:44:23.240
on all of those doors, like unify scanners

00:44:23.240 --> 00:44:30.240
so that if you have a wristband or something, you can boop yourself in to an unauthorized area,

00:44:30.240 --> 00:44:34.240
whether it's the gym upstairs or whether it's the other side of the courts or whatever.

00:44:34.240 --> 00:44:41.240
So we've got these scanners everywhere. All right, as part of our temporary use permit approval

00:44:41.240 --> 00:44:47.240
to use this building for eSports and LAN gaming events,

00:44:47.240 --> 00:44:53.240
we had to have an engineer relook

00:44:53.240 --> 00:44:59.240
at our fire egress safety evacuation plan.

00:44:59.240 --> 00:45:05.240
And they basically came to us and they said, hey, all those doors down the middle, they need push bars now.

00:45:05.240 --> 00:45:09.240
And we kind of went, sorry, what?

00:45:09.240 --> 00:45:14.240
They need push bars because they need people on the one side,

00:45:14.240 --> 00:45:18.240
the badminton side, need to be able to access this man door

00:45:18.240 --> 00:45:21.240
that's halfway down the side of the building on the LAN side

00:45:21.240 --> 00:45:27.240
because you're going to have more people in there. And I'm like, brother, all the additional people

00:45:27.240 --> 00:45:30.240
are going to be on the LAN side.

00:45:30.240 --> 00:45:33.240
And they're like, yeah, but it's a regulatory thing.

00:45:33.240 --> 00:45:37.240
From any point, it has to be no more than X number of meters

00:45:37.240 --> 00:45:44.240
to the nearest exit. And there's like this place right here needs to go out that way.

00:45:44.240 --> 00:45:50.240
And I'm like, my brother in Christ, these were two separate units.

00:45:50.240 --> 00:45:54.240
I put these doors here. And they're like, yeah, but you're going to have more people there.

00:45:54.240 --> 00:45:59.240
I'm like, my brother in Christ, the people will not be on that side.

00:45:59.240 --> 00:46:03.240
They will be on the side that has the door.

00:46:03.240 --> 00:46:08.240
Is there anything we can do about this? And they go, well, there is, you know,

00:46:08.240 --> 00:46:12.240
the original door for this unit at the front of the building.

00:46:12.240 --> 00:46:16.240
But you guys put this half wall in place.

00:46:16.240 --> 00:46:19.240
So now it's not a direct path.

00:46:19.240 --> 00:46:22.240
And I'm going, okay.

00:46:22.240 --> 00:46:25.240
So just so I understand this correctly,

00:46:25.240 --> 00:46:31.240
because to get out, I would have to go this much to the side

00:46:31.240 --> 00:46:37.240
to get around this little half wall and then walk around it.

00:46:37.240 --> 00:46:44.240
I can't lock the doors. Yes, I can't lock the doors between my LAN event and badminton.

00:46:44.240 --> 00:46:48.240
That is a major like security issue

00:46:48.240 --> 00:46:51.240
because we can't have like randoms going into a LAN event.

00:46:51.240 --> 00:46:54.240
You have to have the doors locked.

00:46:54.240 --> 00:46:59.240
So the point is we are working on it,

00:46:59.240 --> 00:47:05.240
but this is the kind of arbitrary bullcrap that you deal with

00:47:05.240 --> 00:47:09.240
when you have over-regulation.

00:47:09.240 --> 00:47:12.240
And that's 10 of zero.

00:47:12.240 --> 00:47:16.240
It wasn't a direct path from the first place anyway. Don't overthink it.

00:47:16.240 --> 00:47:21.240
Trust me, the story is as stupid as I am making it sound.

00:47:21.240 --> 00:47:24.240
Like, okay, Luke, here's another good one.

00:47:24.240 --> 00:47:28.240
Do you remember when we built the mezzanine in unit 101

00:47:28.240 --> 00:47:32.240
where the lounge and the tech-linked green screen set are?

00:47:32.240 --> 00:47:35.240
Yeah. Okay.

00:47:35.240 --> 00:47:39.240
You know how there's two stairwells up to that?

00:47:39.240 --> 00:47:44.240
That's because the building code in Surrey at that time

00:47:44.240 --> 00:47:48.240
required two stairwells up to every mezzanine.

00:47:48.240 --> 00:47:53.240
Oh, yeah. That building code only existed for like a few years

00:47:53.240 --> 00:47:56.240
before everyone kind of went, oh, yeah, this is really stupid.

00:47:56.240 --> 00:48:04.240
This is like ridiculous because you are using a ton of floor space

00:48:04.240 --> 00:48:07.240
and a ton of the upper floor space

00:48:07.240 --> 00:48:14.240
for these multiple landings for like a tiny little, like, 1,500-square-foot mezzanine.

00:48:14.240 --> 00:48:20.240
Yes, oh my God, I know that Fire Egress is no joke.

00:48:20.240 --> 00:48:23.240
For the love of God, guys, calm down.

00:48:23.240 --> 00:48:27.240
There's a mandor at the back. There's a mandor at the front.

00:48:27.240 --> 00:48:32.240
And we've got to use some common sense. It is an empty box.

00:48:32.240 --> 00:48:35.240
There is nothing to burn.

00:48:35.240 --> 00:48:38.240
It's a badminton center.

00:48:39.240 --> 00:48:42.240
We are not using common sense here.

00:48:42.240 --> 00:48:45.240
It's not a difficult building to get out of.

00:48:45.240 --> 00:48:49.240
If it was a warehouse with racking to the ceiling

00:48:49.240 --> 00:48:55.240
and it was a fabric warehouse, okay?

00:48:55.240 --> 00:48:59.240
Sure, let's talk about it.

00:48:59.240 --> 00:49:04.240
But guys, it is an empty building.

00:49:04.240 --> 00:49:08.240
It will have at maximum like 40 people in it.

00:49:08.240 --> 00:49:11.240
And there's an emergency exit door at the one end

00:49:11.240 --> 00:49:16.240
and an emergency exit door at the other end. And you literally have to step around as much as I just showed you.

00:49:16.240 --> 00:49:19.240
It's a big tunnel, effectively, a box.

00:49:19.240 --> 00:49:22.240
Calm down. An empty box.

00:49:25.240 --> 00:49:28.240
But what if it's filled with poison gas or something?

00:49:28.240 --> 00:49:32.240
ZQuest says it was flammable. That's a pretty good point.

00:49:32.240 --> 00:49:35.240
Yeah, I think about that one.

00:49:35.240 --> 00:49:43.240
So anyway, the point is that this is the kind of regulatory burden

00:49:43.240 --> 00:49:49.240
where we're not using common sense, right?

00:49:49.240 --> 00:49:53.240
We aren't applying a common sense filter.

00:49:53.240 --> 00:49:57.240
And I do understand that basically every regulation exists

00:49:57.240 --> 00:50:01.240
because somebody died at some point, right?

00:50:02.240 --> 00:50:06.240
But if we're looking at it going, okay, I think this is something

00:50:06.240 --> 00:50:11.240
that could very easily be overcome. If they just say, yeah, okay, that totally makes sense

00:50:11.240 --> 00:50:15.240
that you're only going to have at maximum like 30 or 40 people in this area.

00:50:15.240 --> 00:50:18.240
The bulk of the people are going to be in the other area.

00:50:18.240 --> 00:50:21.240
And you're not going to have any racking.

00:50:21.240 --> 00:50:25.240
You're not going to have any obstructions. Yeah, that's fine.

00:50:25.240 --> 00:50:28.240
So it's like, we'll approve the TUP provisionally

00:50:28.240 --> 00:50:31.240
based on that that continues to be the case. That's easy.

00:50:31.240 --> 00:50:37.240
That's easy. But the issue is that people are either not empowered

00:50:37.240 --> 00:50:43.240
or they are not savvy enough to make these kinds of calls on their own.

00:50:43.240 --> 00:50:48.240
And so you end up having to escalate and escalate

00:50:48.240 --> 00:50:52.240
and jump through hoops and red tape. And so from a business,

00:50:52.240 --> 00:50:55.240
and I'm not even trying to do anything complicated.

00:50:56.240 --> 00:51:03.240
All I am trying to do is put some desks in a warehouse.

00:51:03.240 --> 00:51:08.240
Ironically, we're zoned for bingo, right?

00:51:08.240 --> 00:51:14.240
You can be a bingo hall here. And part of my argument to the city that actually got the ball rolling

00:51:14.240 --> 00:51:18.240
in the first place is like, land gaming is just bingo

00:51:18.240 --> 00:51:27.240
from a logistical standpoint. You've got someone at the knock or the rolly ball wheel thing.

00:51:27.240 --> 00:51:31.240
They pull out the balls and then you've got all the players

00:51:31.240 --> 00:51:36.240
sitting at their desks with their peripherals, whether it's a bingo stamper or whether it's a keyboard mouse.

00:51:36.240 --> 00:51:43.240
What difference does it make? From a layout standpoint, from a density standpoint,

00:51:43.240 --> 00:51:49.240
it is the exact same thing. The only difference is that someone who ran a bingo hall

00:51:49.240 --> 00:51:54.240
40 years ago or whatever greased the palm of someone in city hall

00:51:54.240 --> 00:52:00.240
and got an exemption. That's the only difference, right?

00:52:00.240 --> 00:52:04.240
We should play. There's your solution.

00:52:04.240 --> 00:52:07.240
You should just play one game of like online bingo

00:52:07.240 --> 00:52:12.240
at the start of the land. Everyone has to play bingo.

00:52:12.240 --> 00:52:16.240
Easy. We want to do things properly.

00:52:17.240 --> 00:52:24.240
I don't even know why anymore. This is the reason why these rules can be super annoying

00:52:24.240 --> 00:52:28.240
is because there will be a small handful of people

00:52:28.240 --> 00:52:32.240
that will ruin it for everyone because there's going to be people that will try to use

00:52:32.240 --> 00:52:38.240
worming around the letter of the law to get bull crap made

00:52:38.240 --> 00:52:41.240
and that makes it so that things have to be worded

00:52:41.240 --> 00:52:45.240
in really annoying ways that end up resulting in these really annoying situations

00:52:45.240 --> 00:52:48.240
for people that are trying to follow the rules.

00:52:48.240 --> 00:52:51.240
Bull chat. Yeah, I don't know. I'm out of it.

00:52:51.240 --> 00:52:54.240
I'm sorry.

00:52:54.240 --> 00:52:58.240
That's where a lot of regulation comes from.

00:52:58.240 --> 00:53:02.240
You run into this when moderating communities, right?

00:53:02.240 --> 00:53:05.240
You have to start putting in these super annoying rules

00:53:05.240 --> 00:53:08.240
because people are going to try to skirt around them

00:53:08.240 --> 00:53:11.240
and then you put another rule in place and they try to skirt around that and you put another rule in place

00:53:11.240 --> 00:53:14.240
and now you have all this trail of rules in place

00:53:14.240 --> 00:53:19.240
because these people are trying to get around everything and this trail of rules are really annoying for everyone else.

00:53:19.240 --> 00:53:22.240
Let's just try to have a good faith conversation.

00:53:22.240 --> 00:53:25.240
It's really annoying.

00:53:25.240 --> 00:53:28.240
I had a conversation with a city staffer at one point.

00:53:28.240 --> 00:53:31.240
I won't say which city because I don't want to identify them

00:53:31.240 --> 00:53:35.240
but they basically said, okay, what do you need from us?

00:53:35.240 --> 00:53:39.240
And my response in typical business owner fashion

00:53:39.240 --> 00:53:45.240
was I want for you to get out of my way. I don't actually want anything from you.

00:53:45.240 --> 00:53:49.240
I just want to get things done. I want to do things.

00:53:49.240 --> 00:53:54.240
And so I guess the reason I'm bringing this up is because I want to make it clear

00:53:54.240 --> 00:53:57.240
that from a business owner perspective,

00:53:57.240 --> 00:54:01.240
I understand where businesses are coming from

00:54:01.240 --> 00:54:04.240
when they complain about burdensome regulation,

00:54:04.240 --> 00:54:08.240
not being able to lock the room for a LAN party

00:54:08.240 --> 00:54:11.240
against random badminton players coming in

00:54:11.240 --> 00:54:15.240
and potentially stealing things is a major user issue.

00:54:15.240 --> 00:54:19.240
It's not that I object. I don't care.

00:54:19.240 --> 00:54:22.240
I could put a, you know,

00:54:22.240 --> 00:54:25.240
I could bolt my computer to the desk if I really felt like it.

00:54:25.240 --> 00:54:31.240
I own the place, right? But from a user standpoint, that is really important.

00:54:31.240 --> 00:54:34.240
I would hate that as a land goer. That would annoy the heck out of me.

00:54:34.240 --> 00:54:39.240
Yeah, of course. And common sense, there is absolutely no reason

00:54:39.240 --> 00:54:42.240
that we need to be able, that we need to keep the doors unlocked

00:54:42.240 --> 00:54:45.240
because the occupancy of the one side

00:54:45.240 --> 00:54:48.240
will always be the same as it is now.

00:54:48.240 --> 00:54:53.240
And I'm the one who put those doors there. If it was good enough before I put the doors there,

00:54:53.240 --> 00:54:56.240
then it's good enough if the doors are locked.

00:54:56.240 --> 00:54:58.240
Period.

00:54:59.240 --> 00:55:02.240
Yeah. But no. But no, that's not it.

00:55:02.240 --> 00:55:09.240
One of the problems too though is like you'll go around every once in a while and you'll find something that is like clearly unsafe

00:55:09.240 --> 00:55:13.240
because someone didn't follow regulations and you know that they just like

00:55:13.240 --> 00:55:18.240
have somehow dodged inspections or whatever.

00:55:18.240 --> 00:55:22.240
And it's frustrating because it's this, yeah, this small group of people ruins it for everybody thing.

00:55:22.240 --> 00:55:25.240
So yeah, anyways, back to what I was saying before,

00:55:25.240 --> 00:55:31.240
I can understand the idea of like special rapid development zones,

00:55:31.240 --> 00:55:34.240
but I don't agree with the no regulation.

00:55:34.240 --> 00:55:37.240
I think you have representatives there

00:55:37.240 --> 00:55:41.240
supporting these companies, trying to get things pushed through quickly

00:55:41.240 --> 00:55:46.240
and their job is to try to not slow them down

00:55:46.240 --> 00:55:50.240
as much as possible, but while keeping safety minimums in place.

00:55:50.240 --> 00:55:56.240
So, I mean, that's hard to do, especially when like we ran into a big challenge

00:55:56.240 --> 00:55:59.240
with the lighting where it took us three attempts

00:55:59.240 --> 00:56:04.240
to get an engineer that would sign off on our suspended lights in the ceiling

00:56:04.240 --> 00:56:09.240
because it's their liability. Like a lot of the time these regulations

00:56:09.240 --> 00:56:13.240
are not even strictly speaking regulations, but what they are is just,

00:56:13.240 --> 00:56:16.240
whether it's a firm or whether it's an individual,

00:56:16.240 --> 00:56:20.240
it's someone covering their own butt.

00:56:20.240 --> 00:56:24.240
It's someone and there's a good reason

00:56:24.240 --> 00:56:27.240
that you have like a liability chain,

00:56:27.240 --> 00:56:32.240
that you have liability, because it makes people strongly incentivized

00:56:32.240 --> 00:56:35.240
to do a good job. And to be clear,

00:56:35.240 --> 00:56:41.240
it's not that we didn't do a good job of seismically fastening the lights to the ceiling.

00:56:41.240 --> 00:56:46.240
It's just that engineers tend to want things overbuilt 4x,

00:56:46.240 --> 00:56:49.240
you know, and we were like,

00:56:49.240 --> 00:56:52.240
okay, we're fine to overbuild 4x,

00:56:52.240 --> 00:56:56.240
but it needs to be done in a way that doesn't have, you know, wire cables

00:56:56.240 --> 00:56:59.240
hanging over the courts because they will interfere

00:56:59.240 --> 00:57:02.240
with the shuttle being hit.

00:57:02.240 --> 00:57:05.240
And so finally we made our way to one

00:57:05.240 --> 00:57:10.240
that would allow us to just add, I think it was like half a dozen more cables

00:57:10.240 --> 00:57:13.240
to every light fixture, but have them go straight up.

00:57:13.240 --> 00:57:16.240
We're like, okay, thank you. But that's the thing,

00:57:16.240 --> 00:57:20.240
it's just because you have that person on site doesn't mean that they're going to sign off

00:57:20.240 --> 00:57:23.240
on your nuclear test because it's their liability.

00:57:23.240 --> 00:57:28.240
To be clear. Exactly. Because if it's their liability, then it's their butt.

00:57:28.240 --> 00:57:33.240
And to me... I think it's like an exposure thing.

00:57:33.240 --> 00:57:36.240
Like if you're there working on this type of stuff all the time,

00:57:36.240 --> 00:57:42.240
maybe that would help. And if you have maybe less total overall work to do,

00:57:42.240 --> 00:57:46.240
you're able to focus on pushing approvals through

00:57:46.240 --> 00:57:49.240
for individual things faster, maybe. I don't know.

00:57:49.240 --> 00:57:53.240
I don't know what that job is like. I could just be completely incorrect,

00:57:53.240 --> 00:57:54.240
but...

00:57:56.240 --> 00:58:01.240
I'm just saying, I sincerely doubt

00:58:01.240 --> 00:58:06.240
that the major hurdle for things like human trials is...

00:58:12.240 --> 00:58:16.240
Well, I don't know, it could be. It could be. The major hurdle could be that it's just impossible

00:58:16.240 --> 00:58:20.240
to get anyone to look at it and say that's okay.

00:58:20.240 --> 00:58:23.240
I mean, I had someone posted in the chat earlier.

00:58:23.240 --> 00:58:26.240
Let me bring this up. Bot said, hey, if there's informed consent

00:58:26.240 --> 00:58:31.240
and the people are terminal, why shouldn't they be able to agree to a risky trial, Linus?

00:58:31.240 --> 00:58:34.240
My understanding, though, is... Well, there's two things there.

00:58:34.240 --> 00:58:37.240
My understanding is for terminal patients,

00:58:37.240 --> 00:58:40.240
it is pretty common for them to participate in risky trials.

00:58:40.240 --> 00:58:45.240
Like that is already a thing. As for the informed consent, that's where I have a bit of an issue.

00:58:45.240 --> 00:58:49.240
Because I don't know if you've ever met the average person.

00:58:50.240 --> 00:58:57.240
Or anyone below that average point informing them.

00:59:00.240 --> 00:59:04.240
People can very easily be taken advantage of

00:59:04.240 --> 00:59:10.240
and be convinced to informally participate in something.

00:59:10.240 --> 00:59:13.240
Or they can be coerced. You can also just be really desperate.

00:59:14.240 --> 00:59:17.240
Yeah. And if they haven't been able to find work in a year

00:59:17.240 --> 00:59:20.240
and they can't make ends meet and you're like,

00:59:20.240 --> 00:59:25.240
hey, I'll give you 10 grand if you shove this needle in your ARM

00:59:25.240 --> 00:59:28.240
and then I get to watch you for a week and maybe you die.

00:59:28.240 --> 00:59:33.240
Who knows? Nios Brist says they can absolutely do it,

00:59:33.240 --> 00:59:36.240
but the problem is that companies don't want to report deaths in their studies

00:59:36.240 --> 00:59:41.240
and they have to report studies when they're used during compassionate care trials.

00:59:42.240 --> 00:59:45.240
Thomas said, isn't that the plot of Squid Games?

00:59:45.240 --> 00:59:46.240
Yeah, kind of.

00:59:49.240 --> 00:59:50.240
I think.

00:59:53.240 --> 00:59:58.240
I haven't actually watched it. I don't know, man. I see this whole issue from both sides.

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and can't just get common sense stuff done, that there are problems with our current system.

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And that if we want to be competitive,

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the fact that I can't even it takes me like a year to open a stupid badminton center.

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It's just a box. My God, it's just a box with some lights.

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Like, who cares? You know, even getting something like that done,

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it took me five years to find something with the right zoning.

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Are both sides open yet? Oh, yeah.

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Both sides are open. The floor is done on both sides.

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You better believe it. The new floors.

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Yeah. The only thing we're waiting on now is your stupid two and a half pound weights

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for the gym equipment. And then we're also waiting on the temporary use permit

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for Len eSports gaming events.

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So would you say at that point? Open in March 2025?

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No, it was it was it was open already.

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It's it's been both floors have been done since it was either late January or early February.

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Nice. I think you win prices right though, Dan.

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Oh, yeah, Dan, you're you're definitely the closest.

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You're definitely the closest. Yeah.

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We haven't strictly speaking done our grand opening event yet.

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So that's something. I think maybe that's what I was waiting for.

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Yeah. We are now he's just talking to do it in this March.

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In this March. Well, no, we can't do it in March anyway.

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It's I think I don't think it's going to happen till like the summer

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because we're coordinating with Badmintology BC.

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They're like a local group that's been running tournaments for like 15 years or something like that.

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And we're like, yeah, we could run our grand opening tournament or or hear me out.

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We could bring in people with a decade and a half of experience.

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And why not? Just yeah, they they have to pay like exorbitant rates for courts.

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So we're like, OK, well, why don't they make money on their event for a change?

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We just sponsor them the court time.

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We co-brand it. And then we get the benefit of them running a great tournament and they get the benefit of actually like making money instead of just doing this for fun for a change.

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So yes, the yeah, I think it's a good win win.

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I'm all about would they would they crank the prizes because of that?

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I don't know. I think that I'd love to see them do that.

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But I wouldn't want to tell them they have to do that.

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Like if part of the whole thing is, you know, we're we're getting the benefit of promotion for our facility.

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Yeah. Yeah, no, I'm I'm all about however many W's you can stack is like my favorite kind of deal.

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Exponential W's. Talking about stacking W's, how about some announcements and some merge messages?

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Oh, yeah, I guess we should do that. What a guy.

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No, we have one more discussion question that I wanted to get to.

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Okay, I got some water then.

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Good luck. Is there Luke?

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Is there any corporation that you would trust to actually make a good freedom city that you would be willing to commit to live there for a year?

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This is a really good discussion question from the writer for this topic, who I think was Jake based on that he was making little changes to it as we were going through it before.

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Don't look at chat. That's cheating.

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I won't say it, but they said such a good one.

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There was one in there that was sick. I won't say it though.

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I'm not going to say it. I'll say it afterwards. I'll save it.

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I wanted to like throw a mildly obscured joke out there and say solar cities, but I'll stick away from that.

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Even though. Okay. Yeah.

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Hmm.

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Company. They have to be a company.

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In fact, I'm even going to make it worse. They have to be publicly traded publicly trade.

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Oh my God. Yeah.

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They have to have enough integrity in their DNA.

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I don't even know like what company. I'm not a stock bro.

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I don't know what companies are publicly traded.

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Most of them are. If you can think of them, they're probably publicly traded.

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Oh man. So many of the things that I can think of are just going to sound so lame if I try to throw it out there.

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I think I've got one.

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I've got one. I don't think it's very good though.

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Okay. Okay. All right.

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You want to go first? Okay. I'll do two.

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I don't like either of them. Okay. All right.

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Framework and valve. Framework. Okay.

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Val is not publicly traded. Val is not publicly traded. Neither is framework.

01:04:51.240 --> 01:04:56.240
So yeah, you swing into this on both parts. Well, you told me they'd all be and I found two that weren't.

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Okay. Look at me being a special boy.

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I would live in. I would. I would.

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I would consider investment disclosure. I would consider living in framework city.

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Yeah. I feel like they'd have a good.

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Framework. I should be set up.

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I'm going to say, I'm going to say Royal Caribbean.

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Not because I think that everything that they do would be like amazing in any way.

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That doesn't feel fair. Like boy, they have an international waters.

01:05:30.240 --> 01:05:33.240
Isn't that aren't they just effectively doing that?

01:05:33.240 --> 01:05:36.240
No, they're governed by laws. But it's complicated.

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But yeah, I feel like I feel like I just feel like whatever their city would be, would

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probably be, I don't know if they'd get a lot of work done or whatever, but they would,

01:05:49.240 --> 01:05:54.240
it would be comfortable. They'd be very comfortable. I think I could live there for a year.

01:05:54.240 --> 01:05:57.240
But yeah, no, chat definitely had the best one.

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Costco is definitely the best answer. I would live in Costco City.

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I was like, oh, of course. They already have Kirkland clothing.

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Yeah. 100%. $1.50.

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Lizzie's dude? I would just, I would unironically shop at the company store.

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Always. You want to know, you know what? I'm just going to, I'm just going to break it right now.

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The, you want to know what? Lizzie's.

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Do you want to know what the Labs voted as the core to the activity that they want

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to do this quarter? Yeah. Yeah.

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Do you want to know what the Labs voted as the core to the activity that they

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want to do this quarter? Do you know what they voted it to be?

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And it won by like, I literally don't know if anyone voted for it for any other.

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I think literally every single person voted for this.

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I think it's unanimous. They just want to go to Costco.

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What? And do what?

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Like eat the sample food?

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Just be, just be at Costco, I guess.

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Costco poutine is fine. Get cheap hot dogs.

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Just a bucket of hot dogs.

01:07:07.240 --> 01:07:10.240
Okay. You know, that sounds sick.

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You need one membership for every two people. Oh, okay.

01:07:14.240 --> 01:07:17.240
I didn't know that. We were, we were literally trying to, because they won, I was like, now we have

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to plan this. I was talking to Nick today about like, how do we deal with, because like

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accounting wants the expenses for the core activities on one card.

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So I was like, can I buy whatever everyone wants to buy on one card at Costco

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when there's like a bunch of us? Like, does that work?

01:07:35.240 --> 01:07:38.240
Are you allowed to do that with memberships? I don't know.

01:07:38.240 --> 01:07:46.240
They'll say a gift card can get you in. So I'd have to, I'd have to buy a bunch of gift cards.

01:07:47.240 --> 01:07:51.240
It may be work. But yeah, they just wanted to go to Costco because like it's funny.

01:07:52.240 --> 01:07:56.240
It's kind of funny. It's pretty funny.

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People could buy snacks, I guess, for the Labs.

01:08:03.240 --> 01:08:07.240
I'm pretty sure we get the company snacks from Costco already.

01:08:07.240 --> 01:08:10.240
Yeah, we do. So I don't know how different they're going to be.

01:08:10.240 --> 01:08:13.240
They want more of those lucky charm cookies.

01:08:14.240 --> 01:08:19.240
Pretty sure this breaks quarterly rules. Wow, there goes Elijah being a complete party pooper.

01:08:19.240 --> 01:08:22.240
How does that break quarterly rules? Also, I don't know, actually.

01:08:22.240 --> 01:08:26.240
Because just buying stuff is not what the quarterly...

01:08:26.240 --> 01:08:31.240
Well, the writers, Elijah, went to Safeway or whatever and bought groceries.

01:08:31.240 --> 01:08:34.240
So how is it that different if we buy snacks?

01:08:34.240 --> 01:08:37.240
They shouldn't have. The experience is going to Costco together.

01:08:37.240 --> 01:08:42.240
Yeah, and getting cookies together. Like if you're a couple, that's a thing.

01:08:42.240 --> 01:08:46.240
That's like dangerous. It's like going to IKEA. Sounds like an event to me.

01:08:46.240 --> 01:08:50.240
Yeah. I'm going to leave this to...

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I'll find a way. See, this is the problem with regulations like we were just talking about earlier.

01:08:55.240 --> 01:09:00.240
I will find a way to make it follow the regulations that Labs can go to Costco.

01:09:00.240 --> 01:09:03.240
The problem is that it's not my regulation.

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It's the CRA's regulation. That's fine.

01:09:06.240 --> 01:09:09.240
Oh, I see. So I'll read their regulations and I'll find a way.

01:09:09.240 --> 01:09:13.240
Oh, you're going to read the entire Canadian tax code?

01:09:13.240 --> 01:09:17.240
Yeah. Well, I'll get chat GBT to do it or something.

01:09:17.240 --> 01:09:24.240
Because we just... If it's an event, it's like, okay, so we just need to find a thing that we need to do at

01:09:24.240 --> 01:09:27.240
Costco or something to do with Costco that makes it an event.

01:09:27.240 --> 01:09:31.240
That's fine. We can make it an event. The only thing Labs requested is that we go to Costco.

01:09:31.240 --> 01:09:34.240
Outside of that, I can craft whatever.

01:09:34.240 --> 01:09:38.240
Your event outage is to find the cheapest snacks at Costco.

01:09:38.240 --> 01:09:43.240
It's like a game. It's like a scavenger hunt.

01:09:43.240 --> 01:09:46.240
Because I need to make an unface palm.

01:09:46.240 --> 01:09:50.240
So I'll have to come up with something like pretty good, but I think there's a way to do it.

01:09:50.240 --> 01:09:53.240
You have to eat everything you buy in the Costco parking lot.

01:09:53.240 --> 01:09:56.240
It's a competition.

01:09:56.240 --> 01:10:02.240
Interesting. Actually, eating contests are against company policy as well.

01:10:02.240 --> 01:10:05.240
I thought it was a CRA policy. That's fair.

01:10:05.240 --> 01:10:12.240
Well, now we have layered policies. Yeah, eating and drinking competitions are against company policy because they can be dangerous.

01:10:12.240 --> 01:10:16.240
I like that. It's extremely reasonable. It's all about liability.

01:10:16.240 --> 01:10:19.240
It's all about liability. Do not play hide and seek in Costco.

01:10:19.240 --> 01:10:22.240
Ignore what Shade Slayer said in the chat.

01:10:22.240 --> 01:10:27.240
I forbid it. No, I forbid it.

01:10:27.240 --> 01:10:31.240
I have forbade it.

01:10:31.240 --> 01:10:35.240
Luke, stop. No, not hide and seek. No, no, no, I'm trying to think of other things.

01:10:35.240 --> 01:10:41.240
I'm trying to think of other things. Can we try to like test all the TVs?

01:10:41.240 --> 01:10:44.240
Can we do like field testing?

01:10:44.240 --> 01:10:47.240
Don't be a nuisance.

01:10:47.240 --> 01:10:50.240
Oh, yeah, you're going to Costco for market research.

01:10:50.240 --> 01:10:54.240
Yeah. Yeah. I'm sure we can find a way for that.

01:10:54.240 --> 01:10:57.240
Then that's not an event. Why is that not an event?

01:10:57.240 --> 01:11:00.240
You're not supposed to be working during the quarterly events.

01:11:00.240 --> 01:11:03.240
You're supposed to be having fun. You can.

01:11:03.240 --> 01:11:06.240
There's our Labs people. That's not fun. No, it's not.

01:11:06.240 --> 01:11:09.240
We'll find a way. Overnight Costco challenge.

01:11:09.240 --> 01:11:12.240
No. Correct. The Wi-Fi.

01:11:12.240 --> 01:11:18.240
No. Secret shop. No, but see he just said it can't be works and you guys are now picking

01:11:18.240 --> 01:11:22.240
work stuff. So it has to be not work stuff.

01:11:22.240 --> 01:11:27.240
We'll find a way though. It's all right. We just see in order to find a way you have to know the rules.

01:11:27.240 --> 01:11:30.240
In order to know the rules you have to almost break them and then it's

01:11:30.240 --> 01:11:33.240
fine. We're doing good. We're progressing.

01:11:33.240 --> 01:11:36.240
Yeah. It's like tax evasion. Sorry.

01:11:36.240 --> 01:11:41.240
Tax avoidance. Yeah.

01:11:41.240 --> 01:11:45.240
Don't do crimes on company time.

01:11:45.240 --> 01:11:49.040
Okay. We'll find a way.

01:11:49.040 --> 01:11:54.240
Speaking of crimes, how about some announcements? I don't know.

01:11:54.240 --> 01:11:57.240
I'm getting worse at these segues. It's late.

01:11:57.240 --> 01:12:00.240
The earlier one was pretty good. That one was. Yeah.

01:12:01.240 --> 01:12:04.240
Rough. Yeah. Okay.

01:12:04.240 --> 01:12:07.240
What are we supposed to be doing now? Crimes.

01:12:07.240 --> 01:12:10.240
I mean announcements. Oh, right.

01:12:10.240 --> 01:12:18.240
Okay. What if we went to Costco to acquire stuff that makes their area cooler?

01:12:18.240 --> 01:12:21.680
So they like their workspace more.

01:12:21.680 --> 01:12:27.240
You are basically just copying my think geek order idea from like 10 years ago.

01:12:27.240 --> 01:12:31.240
Why don't you just go back to the lounge and play games or something?

01:12:31.240 --> 01:12:35.560
This was Nick's idea where he was considering we change the event from going to Costco to

01:12:35.560 --> 01:12:40.040
going to Home Depot. But I was like, ah, but everyone voted for Costco.

01:12:40.040 --> 01:12:44.240
So we got to find a way for that to work. But Costco could still work for that.

01:12:44.240 --> 01:12:52.880
It might not be as good. Look, I literally glistening down as CEO so that I wouldn't have to do this anymore.

01:12:52.880 --> 01:13:02.280
So that I wouldn't have to deal with this kind of slippery slope bullcrap anymore.

01:13:02.280 --> 01:13:08.480
Because the second you guys go to Costco, someone else like, okay, well, then we should

01:13:08.480 --> 01:13:14.840
be allowed to go to Safeway again, because you went to Safeway that we had to make this

01:13:14.840 --> 01:13:22.480
rule in the first place. Every rule exists because someone tried to abuse it.

01:13:22.480 --> 01:13:31.720
And literally it is for your protection. It is for your protection that we have these rules, because if you go and you spend $200

01:13:31.720 --> 01:13:37.960
of company money at Costco, you owe somewhere between $50 and $80, depending on your tax

01:13:37.960 --> 01:13:42.880
bracket, an income tax on it. And I know you ain't going to pay it.

01:13:42.880 --> 01:13:49.320
So this is very meta.

01:13:49.320 --> 01:13:53.800
Check your phone. I bet Terran's calling you. I bet Terran thinks this is funny.

01:13:53.800 --> 01:13:59.360
I bet he does, but I bet Terran also takes his job of making sure we're doing things

01:13:59.360 --> 01:14:05.240
properly seriously. I agree to the point where I will either find a way that we can do this legitimately or

01:14:05.240 --> 01:14:11.720
we won't. Like I'm not going to actually just like do it wrong, but I do find thank you.

01:14:11.720 --> 01:14:17.760
I do find the idea of trying to find a way to do this legitimately to be fun and entertaining

01:14:17.760 --> 01:14:24.200
and cool. I'm just admitting that, but I mean, yeah, if we can't do it, we can't do it.

01:14:24.200 --> 01:14:30.800
It's funny. It's because in most cases, our company policy is because we have explored and exhausted

01:14:30.800 --> 01:14:41.680
every possible option. We have wanted to do things like giant gas gift cards, as whether it's like prizes or

01:14:41.680 --> 01:14:50.600
incentives or bonuses or whatever. And what we've run up against every time is that the CRA has seen this grift and is wise

01:14:50.600 --> 01:14:57.040
to it because the only reason to do it this way would be so that you can use pre-personal

01:14:57.040 --> 01:15:03.360
income tax money for the employee for them to get a benefit that would normally be post-income

01:15:03.360 --> 01:15:13.360
tax. So if someone is going to Costco for our company outing and just buys a blender and the company

01:15:13.360 --> 01:15:19.760
event is buying a blender, the CRA is going to look at this and continue to be like, okay,

01:15:19.760 --> 01:15:26.080
so I'm in need income tax payments from all y'all on your blender purchases.

01:15:26.080 --> 01:15:33.480
So we have these policies so that you guys don't get bent over by the tax man after the

01:15:33.480 --> 01:15:38.200
fact. It's so that we're making sure we're doing everything on the up and up in the first place

01:15:38.200 --> 01:15:42.520
and we don't run into trouble after the fact because once you have interest on it and potential

01:15:42.520 --> 01:15:49.680
penalties, it's a lot worse.

01:15:49.680 --> 01:15:56.080
I have rules because I care.

01:15:56.080 --> 01:16:03.160
Why don't we do some announcements? And I will attempt to get us to Costco because I care.

01:16:03.160 --> 01:16:10.640
I think Luke just buys snacks for an event at the lounge.

01:16:10.640 --> 01:16:16.680
I will leave it to you guys to figure out introducing the hooded cask jacket.

01:16:16.680 --> 01:16:24.320
These have a fun story to them. We ordered a whole bunch of this twill woven material which was supposed to be used for

01:16:24.320 --> 01:16:28.880
our tech pants which we were developing years ago.

01:16:28.880 --> 01:16:35.760
Well they didn't end up being the right choice for pants but they were perfect for a jacket

01:16:35.760 --> 01:16:43.160
that is perfect for getting stuff done. It's built for those awkward spring days when it's still too chilly for a t-shirt but too

01:16:43.160 --> 01:16:48.820
warm for a jacket and you can either layer it over a sweater or rocket solo with the

01:16:48.820 --> 01:16:53.720
inner lining feeling great on your skin if you're just wearing a t-shirt underneath.

01:16:53.720 --> 01:16:59.240
And of course in classic LTT fashion it's loaded up with three zippered pockets to secure

01:16:59.240 --> 01:17:04.840
all your stuff, an embroidered LTT logo on the sleeve, and custom LTT cord locks.

01:17:04.840 --> 01:17:10.840
It's available now at LMG.GG slash task jacket and Luke if you want to show some of the fun

01:17:10.840 --> 01:17:15.560
photos at that link on your screen that would be great and Dan you're also wearing one right

01:17:15.560 --> 01:17:18.960
sorry your guys' preview window is extremely small for me.

01:17:18.960 --> 01:17:21.960
It's very comfy.

01:17:21.960 --> 01:17:24.960
I'm excited to do tasks in this.

01:17:24.960 --> 01:17:28.360
Do you want to show the website pictures? Luke do you want to pull that up?

01:17:28.360 --> 01:17:31.360
Sure. Give me one second. This is great.

01:17:31.360 --> 01:17:39.480
Look W Calderini who says jackets just in time for summer.

01:17:39.480 --> 01:17:44.200
We release products when they're ready that's what people say they want.

01:17:44.200 --> 01:17:52.160
So whatever. Not at Costco yet unfortunately.

01:17:52.160 --> 01:17:56.040
It's actually an epic photo.

01:17:56.040 --> 01:17:59.600
He's doing tasks. They're doing tasks guys okay.

01:17:59.600 --> 01:18:02.920
This is how you get tasks done.

01:18:02.920 --> 01:18:08.040
I understand you need to have a black version of everything and the black version looks

01:18:08.040 --> 01:18:16.560
great. I like it but it feels like the like cannon color for this jacket is the the brown like

01:18:16.560 --> 01:18:20.160
the brown looks so good.

01:18:20.160 --> 01:18:25.440
The black is solid but the brown looks so good.

01:18:25.440 --> 01:18:29.400
Heck yeah.

01:18:29.400 --> 01:18:41.560
All right. Another announcement LTTX Larian Studios Backpack plus give away some of you might have noticed

01:18:41.560 --> 01:18:45.800
should we get them on the table. Yeah I guess so.

01:18:45.800 --> 01:18:51.120
Some of you might have noticed on Twitter or Reddit that user Cromwell posted Larian

01:18:51.120 --> 01:18:54.560
Studios new backpack actually do you want to bring it do you want to bring up the post

01:18:54.560 --> 01:18:58.360
first? Sure.

01:18:58.360 --> 01:19:06.440
We partnered with Larian Studios makers of Baldur's Gate 3 to produce about 800 of these

01:19:06.440 --> 01:19:14.160
bags for their entire staff featuring a custom design on the front pouch, a Larian Studios

01:19:14.160 --> 01:19:20.320
patch on the side pocket, and a custom interior lining.

01:19:20.320 --> 01:19:25.680
Let's go back to the wide of Luke and he can show off the patch beautiful and the custom

01:19:25.680 --> 01:19:29.040
lining. There's all you have to do to get one.

01:19:29.040 --> 01:19:36.080
There's kind of multiple parts to the custom lining so sure go first off in the in the

01:19:36.080 --> 01:19:40.160
big like pocket of holding area.

01:19:40.160 --> 01:19:46.280
There's another it's a little hard to show but there's another like badge and then the

01:19:46.280 --> 01:19:50.960
printing could switch to the Luke can Luke just an idea.

01:19:50.960 --> 01:19:55.240
Huh. Nice.

01:19:55.240 --> 01:19:59.440
The levels of success there's also a lot of boxes in the way now.

01:19:59.440 --> 01:20:03.640
Maybe we okay well it's a black screen for me so you might want to just go back to the

01:20:03.640 --> 01:20:06.640
live.

01:20:06.640 --> 01:20:10.320
Uh oh. So that's that's the Luke can right now.

01:20:10.320 --> 01:20:14.920
Very helpful. Nice. That's the nice great job everyone show it this way.

01:20:14.920 --> 01:20:17.920
There we go. Nice.

01:20:17.920 --> 01:20:20.920
Back to the Luke can. Okay. Hold on.

01:20:20.920 --> 01:20:23.920
No, no. Professional production company everyone. Okay.

01:20:24.600 --> 01:20:28.880
Fine. There's so there's the inside so you've got another layering badge.

01:20:28.880 --> 01:20:32.920
It's like this gray instead of the orange and these logos in the background you might

01:20:32.920 --> 01:20:37.800
notice they're not all the same as the the standard badge one and that's because it's

01:20:37.800 --> 01:20:43.080
their localized studios logos so they have studios all over the world and these are the

01:20:43.080 --> 01:20:47.080
logos for the individual studios which is super cool.

01:20:47.080 --> 01:20:54.920
Another cool secret of the inside of the bag is the what I'm going to call the combined

01:20:54.920 --> 01:20:58.640
works logo but I don't know what you would want to actually call this but it looks so

01:20:58.640 --> 01:21:02.640
sick. I don't know why it's so simple but I just like it a lot.

01:21:02.640 --> 01:21:07.080
Look at that. Is it just sick?

01:21:07.080 --> 01:21:12.880
It's just LTX larion but I think it looks great anyway beautiful and all you have to

01:21:12.880 --> 01:21:21.320
do to get one is go back in time and get a job at larion and work on boulders gate three

01:21:21.320 --> 01:21:25.600
and I think you mean embroidered embroidered that is what I mean I'd say the wrong words

01:21:25.600 --> 01:21:28.600
often. Yep. That's fine.

01:21:28.600 --> 01:21:41.080
I know. Or you can be Luke who gets one of the backpacks wait who gets 11 backpacks I don't think you

01:21:41.080 --> 01:21:45.960
need 11 backpacks so I'll make you a deal.

01:21:45.960 --> 01:21:51.240
You can keep one and we'll give away the other 10.

01:21:51.240 --> 01:21:57.560
So if you guys are feeling lucky there may be something on LTTstore.com that will take

01:21:57.560 --> 01:22:02.120
you where you need to go to enter this giveaway.

01:22:02.120 --> 01:22:05.400
Maybe near something that has your back.

01:22:05.400 --> 01:22:10.480
We're going to be drawing winners next Friday so make sure to keep your eyes out and enter

01:22:10.480 --> 01:22:13.600
before then.

01:22:13.600 --> 01:22:17.640
Pretty exciting.

01:22:17.640 --> 01:22:25.400
And I would just like to say thank you larion studios for your patience on this project.

01:22:25.400 --> 01:22:31.600
Because of some of our issues with backpack suppliers and backpack production it took

01:22:31.600 --> 01:22:37.600
a very long time to deliver these backpacks but I had an idea Luke I kind of pitched this

01:22:37.680 --> 01:22:44.840
to Taran I was thinking that if we ever wanted them to work with us again maybe what we could

01:22:44.840 --> 01:22:51.560
do is we could document a start date and come up with an idea for something and then send

01:22:51.560 --> 01:22:57.600
them a timeline. Send them basically send it to them unsolicited be like okay here's a thing that we made.

01:22:57.600 --> 01:23:02.960
Here was the entire timeline from concept to sending you these units.

01:23:02.960 --> 01:23:09.280
If this is acceptable let us know and maybe we'll work together again.

01:23:09.280 --> 01:23:13.600
They were spectacularly patient and amazing to work on this.

01:23:13.600 --> 01:23:24.520
They were very patient yeah. Yes but basically the final backpacks that they got are not from the same supplier that

01:23:24.520 --> 01:23:29.040
the sample backpacks were from because it was no longer possible to get them from the

01:23:29.040 --> 01:23:33.480
original supplier. And it took us a very long time to get it resolved.

01:23:33.480 --> 01:23:38.360
Dual layer bottoms and they have the corrected carabiners and all that kind of stuff.

01:23:38.360 --> 01:23:41.360
They're in a good state.

01:23:41.360 --> 01:23:45.240
Bots asks our custom backpacks a possibility if we order that many I mean anything's a

01:23:45.240 --> 01:23:53.520
possibility if you order enough. 800 bags was enough for us to make something happen here and I think we could get it done

01:23:53.520 --> 01:23:57.600
a lot faster if we were to do it again.

01:23:57.640 --> 01:24:06.280
We have a much larger much more engaged partner on the backpack manufacturing side right now.

01:24:06.280 --> 01:24:11.200
With that said there are going to be some challenges with all of the tariff situations

01:24:11.200 --> 01:24:14.600
that are going on in the world right now.

01:24:14.600 --> 01:24:20.600
So who knows you know the world's the world's wild right now like I was talking to a PC

01:24:20.600 --> 01:24:26.720
case company that was like yeah we're trying to get some cases over here before some new

01:24:26.720 --> 01:24:33.160
tariffs get applied to them and what we realized is that even if we could get an order in there's

01:24:33.160 --> 01:24:39.720
no way we could get it in time because everybody thought of that and the ports are like swamped

01:24:39.720 --> 01:24:43.200
absolutely mired in shipments right now.

01:24:43.200 --> 01:24:48.720
This is from a single source so take it for what it is but logistics right now apparently

01:24:48.720 --> 01:24:51.720
very challenging. Yeah.

01:24:51.720 --> 01:24:55.720
Makes sense. All right. What are we supposed to be talking about?

01:24:55.720 --> 01:24:58.720
Luke you want to pick a topic? Now we got to do some merge messages.

01:24:58.720 --> 01:25:03.720
Yeah. Okay I'm going to have to rely on you guys to kind of do that because I didn't remember

01:25:03.720 --> 01:25:07.720
to set up the dashboard so cool.

01:25:07.720 --> 01:25:10.720
Yeah well let's see.

01:25:10.720 --> 01:25:15.720
I think I've got one here for Mr. Luke.

01:25:15.720 --> 01:25:19.720
Hi Paris social friends I recently got promoted to lead software engineer.

01:25:19.720 --> 01:25:23.720
I want to build an awesome team but my DRs are all over the world.

01:25:23.720 --> 01:25:27.720
Got any advice on how to build a strong team remotely?

01:25:27.720 --> 01:25:36.160
DRs. Oh direct reports. I don't know why but I don't think people have shortened that when talking to me before

01:25:36.160 --> 01:25:42.720
but I get it direct reports.

01:25:42.720 --> 01:25:46.960
It can be really complicated if you cross certain time zones.

01:25:46.960 --> 01:25:56.680
I find for our group we have all of North America and we have Europe and that works pretty

01:25:56.680 --> 01:26:06.680
well because you set most of your crossover meeting times to be right at like around

01:26:06.680 --> 01:26:17.000
9 a.m. Because if I remember correctly that's like 4-ish p.m. for like UK area and then it gets

01:26:17.000 --> 01:26:27.520
a little bit dang dang speed typing how fast do you type Linus have you tested yourself

01:26:27.520 --> 01:26:37.640
what it's very loud locked in typing on the laptop sorry about that.

01:26:38.600 --> 01:26:43.640
Okay I am done I was just sending Dan a quick message.

01:26:43.640 --> 01:26:48.360
What was that completely dominated by my brain functions.

01:26:48.360 --> 01:26:54.480
Oh right yeah yeah so you meet at 9 a.m. and it works pretty well for most European areas

01:26:54.480 --> 01:27:04.720
and works pretty well for your North American areas as well.

01:27:04.800 --> 01:27:09.080
Other than that like I don't know you're going to have to get pretty used to handoffs and

01:27:09.080 --> 01:27:16.000
check-ins ideally you are hiring and working with a team of people that are pretty good

01:27:16.000 --> 01:27:24.240
at working alone unless your team is pretty big because it's often beneficial to have

01:27:24.240 --> 01:27:31.200
mixtures of disciplines across the time zones like one benefit that we have is that you

01:27:31.200 --> 01:27:35.840
know if you need someone of a certain if you have a large enough team and you need someone

01:27:35.840 --> 01:27:39.480
of a certain discipline there's like kind of always someone online which is nice but

01:27:39.480 --> 01:27:43.920
that also means that those people aren't working with each other all the time so sharing knowledge

01:27:43.920 --> 01:27:49.960
between those people and making sure that everyone's kind of staying same page can be

01:27:49.960 --> 01:27:58.800
more difficult but like for for instance my team we meet twice a week for for an hour.

01:27:58.800 --> 01:28:03.520
We very rarely use the whole hour I pick a part of the meeting where like once certain

01:28:03.520 --> 01:28:11.240
things have been accomplished I say a generic phrase like have a good rest your week or

01:28:11.240 --> 01:28:16.320
whatever so everyone knows that like it's cool if they leave now and then some teams

01:28:16.320 --> 01:28:23.000
one one of one of my teams everyone just hangs up immediately another one of my teams nobody

01:28:23.000 --> 01:28:27.040
leaves and everyone just hangs out in chats for the rest of the meeting time another one

01:28:27.080 --> 01:28:31.960
of my teams everyone very formally says goodbye every team is very unique but you can like

01:28:31.960 --> 01:28:36.000
allow for some space for people to hang out and talk so you can have that team building

01:28:36.000 --> 01:28:41.280
stuff I find that is more likely with remote teams that they will do that with local teams

01:28:41.280 --> 01:28:47.440
like I don't care I'm going to see you in 10 seconds anyways I don't know none of that

01:28:47.440 --> 01:28:52.040
was super specific advice but find meeting times that everyone can actually do have

01:28:52.040 --> 01:28:56.880
multiple meetings per week sync up often and if you're having it where one person is working

01:28:56.880 --> 01:29:00.800
on something and then they have to hand off to the other person standardize how that procedure

01:29:00.800 --> 01:29:05.440
works make a certain level of documentation required for the handoff and make a certain

01:29:05.440 --> 01:29:10.640
level of documentation or certain level of actually reading the documentation required

01:29:10.640 --> 01:29:18.440
for when they pick it up as well yeah there you go all right and there's apparently announcement

01:29:18.440 --> 01:29:26.080
here for full plane that we're supposed to read after the first merge message oh I just

01:29:26.240 --> 01:29:35.920
don't see it it's in the announcement yeah oh some of you had a keen eye on our AMD GPU review

01:29:35.920 --> 01:29:43.360
video which yes was partially shot at the Texas Landhouse Luke do you want a screen share the

01:29:43.360 --> 01:29:48.880
Texas Landhouse sure nope we're apparently supposed to go to Floatplane and click around in the

01:29:48.880 --> 01:29:55.040
video while doing talking points so the Texas Landhouse went kind of viral on reddit hold on

01:29:55.440 --> 01:30:04.160
isn't that the same thing I'm supposed to show that right if we're clicking here on the video we're supposed to show it yeah the link's there yeah yeah yeah well I had meant to show the viral

01:30:04.160 --> 01:30:10.960
reddit post initially but yeah no you should you should show the video so we did a tour of it

01:30:10.960 --> 01:30:17.520
and we've got an early sneak peek up on Floatplane right now got a few timestamps for Luke

01:30:17.520 --> 01:30:25.440
to show you guys I'm ready whatever it's starting at 617 which is the adult playroom throw it over

01:30:25.440 --> 01:30:40.080
there look um do you want to hear it I don't know let's go no okay at 1358 my son and Kenton

01:30:40.080 --> 01:30:47.120
open up the DDR gaming station we talk about how Yvonne wants one I think the the the final video

01:30:47.120 --> 01:30:53.040
that goes up on YouTube will be more of just like a tight scripted tour yeah whereas we got a ton

01:30:53.040 --> 01:31:00.000
of behind the scenes of just like Kenton showing us around it's pretty cool so there's four DDR

01:31:00.000 --> 01:31:11.680
pads built into the floor 1921 shows the server rack full of gaming computers

01:31:12.640 --> 01:31:21.760
hmm oh you'll find it I went to 2021 my bad so many gaming computers yeah those are all full

01:31:21.760 --> 01:31:29.360
like desktops right oh yeah yeah oh yeah but crazy they thought about uh using virtualization but

01:31:29.360 --> 01:31:35.040
I think ran into a lot of the same challenges that I have in the past um yeah anti cheat doesn't

01:31:35.040 --> 01:31:42.480
like it at all yeah um 35 21 says actual GPU shooting I don't know what that means

01:31:43.120 --> 01:31:52.480
yeah hold on 35 actual GPU shooting oh the shooting of the gp review video oh yeah okay

01:31:53.600 --> 01:32:02.240
and then at 3822 I having played DDR only like two or three times before in my life

01:32:03.200 --> 01:32:12.800
uh played DDR versus Kenton I did not do well you not even pressing the oh perfect great perfect

01:32:12.800 --> 01:32:20.000
perfect great yeah but look at how basic mine is compared to his I'm playing on like super easy

01:32:20.000 --> 01:32:27.520
new mode yeah you don't have a bar the bar does make it like wildly easier he apparently doesn't

01:32:27.600 --> 01:32:36.160
like the bar interesting not a bar guy hmm yeah so we're going to be doing a video

01:32:36.160 --> 01:32:40.400
showcasing the full house and andi our camera operator filmed this behind the scenes and

01:32:40.400 --> 01:32:44.560
mini vlog about our trip to the house um it's not coming out till early April so if you want

01:32:44.560 --> 01:32:50.160
to sneak preview of what's to come you can check it out at LMG.gg slash Floatplane or if you're

01:32:50.160 --> 01:32:57.600
feeling lazy you can just subscribe to our youtube channel as a channel member huge shout out to

01:32:57.600 --> 01:33:03.840
Kenton and Jade who graciously let us film there both doing the tour of their house as well as

01:33:03.840 --> 01:33:11.120
shooting our 90 70 review video yeah I got one more merch message here before we move on good

01:33:11.120 --> 01:33:17.120
evening sebi laffy and besi I have yet to lose a video game to my 14 year old son but that day is

01:33:17.120 --> 01:33:27.040
coming line is what games can confidently say you'll never lose to yours oh I don't know he's

01:33:27.040 --> 01:33:40.480
pretty good um yeah like he like he can beat me in like ultimate chicken horse like it's close

01:33:40.560 --> 01:33:47.600
so for like 2d platforming it's it's really really close is there a game that you actively

01:33:47.600 --> 01:33:54.800
play as much as he does uh because like there's gonna be games he can beat you in for sure

01:33:54.800 --> 01:33:58.800
that he plays I mean he's old enough now that he has his own preferences right like he doesn't

01:33:59.440 --> 01:34:03.680
he doesn't just play whatever dad plays so like I'm better than him at tape to tape

01:34:04.400 --> 01:34:11.520
but he picked it up really fast especially he was a not naming any names last time compared to some

01:34:11.520 --> 01:34:19.760
of the other people that we've brought into the crew whoa bar um yeah something that I've noticed

01:34:19.760 --> 01:34:26.800
with him though is that like I swear it's within like the last year or two at most yeah there's been

01:34:26.800 --> 01:34:34.160
a huge spike in like his ability to perform in games um yeah I know he's like he's like good

01:34:34.160 --> 01:34:41.600
like if we uh like I was standing over him and he like won fortnight and I was like

01:34:43.280 --> 01:34:50.400
do you do this regularly um and he was like oh I don't know like once out of every some

01:34:50.400 --> 01:34:54.160
amount less than 10 I was like oh okay so he's like

01:34:56.320 --> 01:35:01.840
yeah and he was just like mowing down human players and like you can you can tell from the

01:35:01.840 --> 01:35:06.640
usernames I think it was I looked it up at the time but they were like definitely human players

01:35:06.640 --> 01:35:10.800
and I'm like okay well I guess that's something look at this right

01:35:11.200 --> 01:35:17.360
low man's not super little anymore oh heck no

01:35:20.720 --> 01:35:26.160
yeah no that nickname has become less and less appropriate over the years yeah um

01:35:27.120 --> 01:35:31.520
I don't know how long we're gonna we're gonna keep it up anyway but um

01:35:31.680 --> 01:35:40.560
um yeah I know he's uh he's very much just like uh slightly uh oh like the the nickname oh

01:35:40.560 --> 01:35:45.520
because it sort of seems like it's getting unnecessary but it's gonna have to him I assume

01:35:46.880 --> 01:35:50.560
yeah yeah I mean yeah that should be a that should be a decision he makes he's getting old

01:35:50.560 --> 01:35:56.080
enough that he can kind of make decisions for himself um yeah I'm still trying to think like

01:35:56.080 --> 01:36:02.240
FPS he's probably on my level so it would come down to you know what game we're playing

01:36:02.240 --> 01:36:05.760
like if we played something that he has a ton of hours in he would have a huge advantage if we

01:36:05.760 --> 01:36:09.840
played something that I have a ton of hours in I would have a huge advantage like in a lot of

01:36:09.840 --> 01:36:14.640
ways knowing the map knowing the weapons knowing the meta is way more important than just like raw

01:36:14.640 --> 01:36:19.760
FPS skills unless you're playing like quake arena or something right um

01:36:20.480 --> 01:36:25.200
um I'd beat him at an RTS like very easily

01:36:27.360 --> 01:36:31.280
just because he hasn't really played yeah but I think if we picked up a brand new game

01:36:32.080 --> 01:36:36.560
he would probably be like on par immediately and then he'd probably beat me in a very short

01:36:36.560 --> 01:36:44.480
amount of time I mean just like basic biology stuff like reflex level he's just gonna kill you

01:36:44.880 --> 01:36:51.440
yeah every day I always talk about this I'm just like every day you know I get older

01:36:51.440 --> 01:36:58.320
dumber and slower and weaker and every day you get well older but also like smarter faster and

01:36:58.320 --> 01:37:05.840
stronger so yeah yeah yeah that's just that's just the way it is that's the way it is and I think I

01:37:05.840 --> 01:37:11.760
think my like oh the last one or two years thing I think it's just those curves have started getting

01:37:11.760 --> 01:37:20.080
a lot closer like two years ago if we played a game like it's like okay time to carry little man

01:37:20.080 --> 01:37:26.320
which was more than fine you know like yeah no problem whatsoever but it was like the goal is

01:37:26.320 --> 01:37:31.920
carrying little man and now it's like the goal is trying to not lose as much as possible

01:37:32.880 --> 01:37:40.800
to little man like it's yeah it's the mission has shifted um yeah no he beat me for the first

01:37:40.800 --> 01:37:45.360
time I think the first game he ever beat me at was tower fall and it was like years ago

01:37:45.360 --> 01:37:51.760
like he's he's pretty good and tower fall like has pretty robust rubber banding like it's it's

01:37:51.760 --> 01:38:00.160
inherent to the game and he got a little lucky that first time but still I was like damn yeah for

01:38:00.160 --> 01:38:04.880
sure because I'd gotten from being able to win around anytime I wanted to legitimately losing

01:38:04.880 --> 01:38:11.840
sometimes oh yeah like I I mean I haven't I pointed this out probably too many times

01:38:11.840 --> 01:38:17.360
but I was frustrated about it I haven't played Mario Kart in forever he had you know the more

01:38:17.360 --> 01:38:21.440
advantage is sight line all these other kind of things but there is something that is fairly

01:38:21.440 --> 01:38:28.240
undeniable in Mario Kart which is when you consistently get first it's like oh because

01:38:28.240 --> 01:38:34.800
when you're playing against bots you'll often get like item dumped yes so like if you get first in

01:38:34.880 --> 01:38:41.760
literally every single uh map on a circuit it's like okay you're like you know what you're doing

01:38:41.760 --> 01:38:48.240
you're pretty good and he I think he did that to us at least once every time he got it three times

01:38:48.240 --> 01:38:56.640
in one grand prix yeah which is like okay yeah yeah now our advancing age did make that split

01:38:56.640 --> 01:39:02.080
screen on the switch that was tough we don't know how much realistic competition we were going to be

01:39:02.080 --> 01:39:07.440
because we so we were trying to play on a switch in an airplane so like I mean neither of our eyes

01:39:07.440 --> 01:39:12.400
are amazing and we're like leaning over trying to see it properly and stuff but the the reason why

01:39:12.400 --> 01:39:17.920
I mentioned the ai's is because he did that against 150 cc ai's and people are going to say like oh it's

01:39:17.920 --> 01:39:28.240
not that hard the the hard part that I'm pointing out is the consistency and also it's it's a gap

01:39:28.240 --> 01:39:34.560
it's a change compared to one or two years ago and neither luke nor I are like completely

01:39:34.560 --> 01:39:40.560
unversed in the mario kart yes so it's not like we were even though it was hard to see and there

01:39:40.560 --> 01:39:44.720
was a bit of joystick drift to contend with it's not like we weren't there no you know causing

01:39:44.720 --> 01:39:50.800
trouble like the problem I had was I I literally could not see bananas so like I remember I was in

01:39:50.800 --> 01:39:57.680
first and in one lap I hit five it was just like I guess I lose now like there's just there was no

01:39:58.320 --> 01:40:04.160
way to recover because I hit five bananas in one lap I could not dodge them so that was a

01:40:04.160 --> 01:40:09.120
little bit unique but it it what I'm kind of pointing out is that our performance as much as

01:40:09.120 --> 01:40:16.400
we sucked isn't even super relevant to the observation that he was really good so I don't

01:40:16.400 --> 01:40:24.240
know yeah it's interesting should we move on to another topic here no let's do some sponsors I'm

01:40:24.320 --> 01:40:32.720
sorry oh what uh we should do one more topic yeah okay overruled Pokemon go sold to Saudi Arabia

01:40:32.720 --> 01:40:40.880
in public investment fine wait we can do someone else if you want I was going to do MSI announces

01:40:40.880 --> 01:40:49.680
the that's our that's our other major topic let's do it fine yeah okay yeah okay MSI announced

01:40:49.680 --> 01:40:59.120
the shadow 2x and shadow 2x oc a dual fan design for the RTX 5070 it appears to be the smallest

01:40:59.120 --> 01:41:08.000
5070 from any manufacturer at least according to pc part picker um being only 231 millimeters in length

01:41:10.240 --> 01:41:18.160
but here's my issue with this and I've seen this a lot of times is why does MSI

01:41:18.160 --> 01:41:28.640
need 19 I kid you not 19 versions of the RTX 5070 when they don't appear to be able to consistently

01:41:28.640 --> 01:41:39.520
ship any of them at MSRP what is actually going on here I and I legitimately would like the answer

01:41:39.520 --> 01:41:47.280
so I legitimately don't know what is the point of creating more and more and more versions

01:41:47.920 --> 01:41:56.880
of of this GPU when you can't fulfill orders for your earlier GPUs that you already released

01:41:58.000 --> 01:42:06.080
some of them are so somebody okay hold on hold on a second so Ed Zelm says MSRP is too low yes

01:42:06.080 --> 01:42:11.440
that is one of the reasons so you stop shipping your MSRP card that you released you go oh I don't

01:42:11.440 --> 01:42:15.520
know what you're talking about well yeah we have an MSRP card we just don't have that one right now

01:42:15.520 --> 01:42:21.920
we have the more expensive one but in a lot of cases that's not even the the defense because it's

01:42:21.920 --> 01:42:29.040
not just always a new higher price when it's just it's just another another one and made in Canada

01:42:29.040 --> 01:42:34.880
says because money but it's like no you're not making more money by developing yet another board

01:42:34.880 --> 01:42:41.680
and yet another cooler if anything you're just you're just adding cost uh spider Murphy says

01:42:41.760 --> 01:42:47.600
shareholders like big numbers of products that's not even true shareholders like uh on a well

01:42:47.600 --> 01:42:54.480
understood product line that sells well there is no way on the screen earth that MSI releasing

01:42:54.480 --> 01:43:03.760
another version of 5070 could possibly impact their sales of RTX 5070 their allocation of GPUs from

01:43:03.760 --> 01:43:12.240
NVIDIA is fixed at this time so yes they could be more competitive you know in a particular like

01:43:12.240 --> 01:43:16.560
oh it's a smaller one or whatever like this particular card could be more interesting or

01:43:16.560 --> 01:43:25.200
or whatever but at the end of the day they will sell 100 percent of the 5070 GPUs that NVIDIA ships

01:43:25.200 --> 01:43:33.200
them so what are we doing here what is the point of this does anybody know I want to know

01:43:34.000 --> 01:43:39.920
legitimately I have no I don't know do you know I can't even guess to be honest it seems very weird

01:43:39.920 --> 01:43:47.200
to me but it's something that I've seen time and time again you'll have this product that's

01:43:47.200 --> 01:43:54.000
under allocation and you'll have these brands releasing more and more versions of it for what

01:43:54.000 --> 01:44:01.280
purpose yeah mr wizard 2k said market capture like is it is it just your your like news stuffing

01:44:01.280 --> 01:44:07.280
kind of maybe but for to what end oh just getting your name give me the news that give

01:44:07.280 --> 01:44:13.120
me the news that you have it in stock yeah I hear that but like you know google news feed

01:44:13.920 --> 01:44:19.040
if it if I if I scroll to my feed and I see oh MSI released a new 5070 or something like

01:44:19.760 --> 01:44:24.400
yeah they're just I mean I guess it's making us talk about it is there any yeah is there any stock

01:44:24.400 --> 01:44:32.240
of any of this stuff like Jake message saying that in Canada there's some 50 series cards that

01:44:32.240 --> 01:44:35.920
are in stock at memex but apparently in America it's still really tough right now

01:44:38.400 --> 01:44:42.720
mighty Mike asks do they get extra allocation for each product line not that I'm aware of

01:44:43.680 --> 01:44:51.760
but but bent bob has a good theory more skews means more listings in store pages

01:44:51.760 --> 01:44:57.200
even if they're out of stock and therefore more brand awareness but this is yeah this is kind of

01:44:57.200 --> 01:45:07.920
that's an idea yeah um what else are we looking for yeah more search results maybe it's that man

01:45:08.080 --> 01:45:19.200
few places are so broken I don't even know like I just I went on Amazon and I looked for MSI

01:45:19.200 --> 01:45:23.760
NVIDIA 5070 like what am I even looking at

01:45:27.120 --> 01:45:33.040
Raiden 428 says Zotac are being legends their discord is a great place to get cards

01:45:33.760 --> 01:45:39.840
um that's pretty cool to see them engaging directly with the gaming community sweet like that

01:45:42.000 --> 01:45:51.040
um all right the same day that MSI released this card NVIDIA claimed it has shipped twice as many

01:45:51.040 --> 01:45:59.040
RTX 50 series GPUs compared to the RTX 40 series five weeks after launch however it is worth noting

01:45:59.040 --> 01:46:04.560
that the RTX 4090 was the only RTX 40 series card for the first five weeks after its launch

01:46:05.120 --> 01:46:10.160
and it also suffered from stock issues so that's something um that's so they actually have like

01:46:10.160 --> 01:46:15.680
four times as many skews many of which are at much lower prices and have only shipped twice as many

01:46:15.680 --> 01:46:22.960
GPUs meanwhile AMD vice president David McAfee said in a podcast that demand for the RX 9070

01:46:22.960 --> 01:46:30.080
and 9070 XT has been quote unprecedented and that the company's number one priority is restocking

01:46:30.080 --> 01:46:39.200
GPUs particularly at MSRP do you remember the MSRP for the 9070

01:46:42.000 --> 01:46:51.200
or in CAD oh in CAD I have no idea but 549 USD and 599 USD so that times 1.45 or so

01:46:53.360 --> 01:47:05.200
549 USD to CAD it's a 790 and this is Amazon right now like man come on

01:47:07.760 --> 01:47:15.200
$1,200 cards that are supposed to be 790 like please I wish I had the power to say hey guys

01:47:15.200 --> 01:47:22.320
just don't buy it if it's not at or at least near MSRP and this is the thing that I I feel like

01:47:23.200 --> 01:47:28.880
I talk about a lot and people kind of get frustrated at me for talking about it but the

01:47:28.880 --> 01:47:35.360
reason I talk about it is because there seems to be a significant number of people that that

01:47:35.360 --> 01:47:40.880
feel like it's the reviewers fault for not going hard enough at these companies for just nothing

01:47:40.880 --> 01:47:45.840
to do with it if you there is nothing that I can do about it buying so many of them that

01:47:45.840 --> 01:47:49.600
they're sold out constantly all you're doing is teaching these companies that honestly they're

01:47:49.600 --> 01:47:53.040
underpriced like yes that's it

01:47:56.000 --> 01:48:02.560
yes 100 supply and demand and there clearly isn't enough supply so price can go up like we talked

01:48:02.560 --> 01:48:09.360
about recently where we compared the total addressable market for GPUs and gaming PC gaming

01:48:09.920 --> 01:48:14.400
with the kind of viewership that you know tech review channels get

01:48:14.960 --> 01:48:24.240
I reach this like tiny fraction of gamers like at the end of the day I don't even see the point

01:48:24.240 --> 01:48:30.320
from NVIDIA and AMD's perspective I don't even see the point in engaging with reviewers anymore

01:48:30.960 --> 01:48:37.200
why I bought it matters I know your your doomer view on this but I I still think it matters to

01:48:37.200 --> 01:48:41.760
be completely honest I think there's a matters a we're still going to cover it I think there's

01:48:42.320 --> 01:48:48.640
an opinion zeitgeist that can kind of happen where like if if enough enthusiasts condemn a product

01:48:49.920 --> 01:48:56.800
and the price in my opinion almost never results in anything especially for products like this that

01:48:56.800 --> 01:49:01.200
are just constantly sold out it's it's going to become irrelevant to people but if people are

01:49:01.200 --> 01:49:07.920
like this thing just sucks it's buggy it doesn't work whatever it it won't sell like that word

01:49:07.920 --> 01:49:13.760
we'll get out to the people that don't watch your channel but I mean we're talking about very

01:49:13.760 --> 01:49:23.840
mature companies with very mature product lines yeah okay okay no well here find me a 5090 founders

01:49:23.840 --> 01:49:31.120
in stock then because that thing literally can light on fire and everyone's talking about it

01:49:32.000 --> 01:49:39.120
how many of them though I'm just saying what we say is not going to impact how many they can sell

01:49:40.400 --> 01:49:41.280
so why do they care

01:49:45.360 --> 01:49:49.200
why bother to engage with us at all because theoretically right yeah but I didn't say that

01:49:49.200 --> 01:49:55.760
what you say matters all the time I said that if you if you say that something is really bad

01:49:55.760 --> 01:50:00.560
you're not saying it's really bad you're saying it's it's very performant but might light on fire

01:50:02.080 --> 01:50:06.080
and then they can decide that for themselves but you can say don't pre-order things and nobody's

01:50:06.080 --> 01:50:09.360
going to listen and they're going to pre-order and crazy amounts that you've ever heard of and

01:50:09.360 --> 01:50:13.760
you're going to say don't do micro transactions and people are going to buy micro transactions

01:50:13.760 --> 01:50:22.480
of like 80 plus of people but if something is actually just a piece of junk and and undesirable

01:50:22.480 --> 01:50:28.240
because of that people will not buy it there are certain things that people won't listen to they'll

01:50:28.240 --> 01:50:34.720
let their greed override certain desires so like if it's if it's really expensive but it's like cool

01:50:34.720 --> 01:50:40.080
they're just going to buy it anyways if they just want it really bad they'll pre-order it they'll

01:50:40.080 --> 01:50:44.560
do whatever like those things those aren't going to stop people oh I shouldn't buy micro transactions

01:50:44.560 --> 01:50:49.760
but this guy just killed me in this game and I would I would prefer to be able to kill him so

01:50:49.760 --> 01:50:53.200
I'm going to buy this micro transaction to become stronger and then beat him anyways

01:50:53.440 --> 01:51:00.000
um that that type of thing is very easy to prey on with with people um but if you're like this

01:51:00.000 --> 01:51:05.840
thing is actually just junk then I think people won't buy it but if you're like this is great but

01:51:05.840 --> 01:51:12.960
so overpriced that at this price it is basically junk I think people will still buy it because what

01:51:12.960 --> 01:51:20.000
they heard is it's great but that's the thing is like anything is anything almost anything like

01:51:20.000 --> 01:51:26.480
the humane pin is junk at any price but almost anything is not junk when it's at the right price

01:51:26.480 --> 01:51:32.880
especially when you've got like mature companies with pretty mature testing processes mostly

01:51:32.880 --> 01:51:38.400
churning out products that are not complete junk and so with that in mind I think there's very

01:51:38.400 --> 01:51:45.440
few opportunities for us to really like stop consumers from getting scammed all we can really

01:51:45.440 --> 01:51:51.680
do is say hey here's what's a good value here's what's not a good value and it just feels like

01:51:51.680 --> 01:51:57.520
they they're not we don't have enough of reach I think junk is too inflammatory anyway but like

01:51:57.520 --> 01:52:02.960
look at the market share that Intel had that they have lost right like that didn't just happen from

01:52:03.520 --> 01:52:08.800
random people that have never looked at any tech reviewers just randomly deciding to buy AMD for

01:52:08.800 --> 01:52:15.120
the first time in a decade like no that information came out that information came from somewhere it

01:52:15.120 --> 01:52:22.560
got into people's minds and it spread you have people testing things those people are informing

01:52:23.280 --> 01:52:30.480
people on build a pc or pc par picker or whatever these other various sites that are recommending

01:52:30.480 --> 01:52:36.720
recommendation engines of some sort the the the build a pc section of the forum whatever it is

01:52:37.600 --> 01:52:40.320
and then that spreads out and spreads out and spreads out and then word of mouth and word of

01:52:40.720 --> 01:52:45.680
mouth and word of mouth and now AMD cpus is super cool it takes time but you can you can saturate

01:52:45.680 --> 01:52:50.080
this information you can still get it out there's no like it's tech reviewers are not irrelevant

01:52:50.080 --> 01:52:55.680
it's just saying that you don't hit even a majority the market share doesn't mean that you're

01:52:55.680 --> 01:53:00.800
irrelevant it just means that a lot of people aren't going to be very actively listening

01:53:00.880 --> 01:53:12.240
um yeah yeah i guess i just am um i don't know i guess it's just surprising to me because i live

01:53:12.240 --> 01:53:19.040
in my bubble where anytime that i buy a tech product i look at reviews for it and you know

01:53:19.040 --> 01:53:25.520
from my point of view there's a lot of products that have sold really well that anyone who read

01:53:25.600 --> 01:53:32.800
a review for it shouldn't buy and yet they and yet they do you know um and it just and i'm sure

01:53:32.800 --> 01:53:38.000
that someone you know will see me with my you know power tool or whatever and go oh my god there

01:53:38.000 --> 01:53:45.440
was a model for 30 less that has you know doubled the battery life and that idiot and it's more

01:53:45.440 --> 01:53:50.800
compact and whatever and i'm just kind of sitting here going yeah i screw drywall anchor into my

01:53:50.880 --> 01:53:56.640
wall every once in a while i just don't really care and i'm sure they feel the exact same way

01:53:56.640 --> 01:54:03.040
yeah i play fortnite is like you know what i mean like i don't know i'm not a pro gamer i

01:54:03.040 --> 01:54:08.880
get 60 FPS who cares yeah like a lot of people aren't necessarily going to care but then at the

01:54:08.880 --> 01:54:13.600
same time if they hear from their enthusiast friend who watched one of your videos or one of

01:54:13.600 --> 01:54:19.600
anyone else's videos or read some article or whatever else um that hey you should you should

01:54:19.600 --> 01:54:26.480
buy AMD next time or or or something else um that will shift there's so big purchasing patterns over

01:54:26.480 --> 01:54:33.120
time such big purchases i think that's the thing that kind of kills me about it i mean and and i

01:54:33.120 --> 01:54:37.040
excessively research things before i buy them and so do you but not everybody's like that and that's

01:54:37.040 --> 01:54:44.240
okay like house car computer are probably the three most important things in my life and probably a

01:54:44.240 --> 01:54:50.320
lot of you guys yeah and you see people make 30 minute decisions or less on houses like this is

01:54:50.320 --> 01:55:00.800
people buy sight unseen people are crazy i don't understand at all i don't even wait people buy

01:55:00.800 --> 01:55:07.840
cars it's absolutely no sense to me the fact that like like high yeah high pressure sales

01:55:08.480 --> 01:55:14.320
you know exist in cars and that people will like make a a snap decision like at my personal

01:55:14.320 --> 01:55:22.080
policy if i'm buying something like a car anything that requires financing is i have my conversation

01:55:22.080 --> 01:55:28.640
with them i go home and sleep like there's absolutely no way on this earth that i purchase

01:55:28.640 --> 01:55:35.440
a car without going home and sleeping yeah sweet but people a hundred percent do it

01:55:38.400 --> 01:55:43.920
binky draws says any house i can get in this economy is worth it yeah so i get that but like

01:55:43.920 --> 01:55:51.200
there was i remember when i was looking for my apartment i remember i went to a new construction

01:55:51.200 --> 01:55:56.560
where they had like a demo unit of an apartment built but the tower wasn't up yet

01:55:58.000 --> 01:56:01.280
and you could you could walk through it and stuff and i remember talking to one of the sales

01:56:01.360 --> 01:56:08.080
people that were there and i mentioned that like i was kind of surprised because the sales people

01:56:08.080 --> 01:56:15.120
that were there were pretty chill they weren't really doing sales as it were they were just

01:56:15.120 --> 01:56:19.440
kind of like hanging out and giving people snacks and stuff and they were like oh yeah i mean this

01:56:19.440 --> 01:56:25.040
is our first showing but pretty much the entire inventory the building is sold and i was like

01:56:25.760 --> 01:56:30.480
what they're like yeah we have like two units left we're building like four towers there it's

01:56:30.480 --> 01:56:37.040
all gone um i was like okay like how did that even happen if this is your first showing and

01:56:37.040 --> 01:56:41.680
they're like oh people saw some pictures online and just bought all of it there's just renders

01:56:44.800 --> 01:56:50.320
like okay um well if you're buying it as an investment and you're not even going to live

01:56:50.320 --> 01:56:55.120
in it then you don't care anyway i guess right yeah because you're just going to stick your

01:56:55.120 --> 01:57:01.600
tenant in it and if the you know fridge can only be opened 70 of the way before it wax

01:57:01.600 --> 01:57:06.240
into something or whatever you know the kind of issue that you would only notice it like walking

01:57:06.240 --> 01:57:10.800
through a place and touching everything opening stuff up you know but it's not going to be your

01:57:10.800 --> 01:57:20.000
problems what do you care yeah i guess yeah conrad said the the bc housing market is looking

01:57:20.000 --> 01:57:25.280
really good lately uh it's do it seems to be doing better things but i mean we'll see how

01:57:26.560 --> 01:57:32.160
i'm looking good we mean going down yeah oh yeah that's looking good up here to be very clear um

01:57:32.160 --> 01:57:38.720
yeah i'm still rooting for it luke even though oh yeah a significant amount of my net worth is

01:57:38.720 --> 01:57:46.480
tied up in bc real estate i am still i'm still rooting for it you'll be fine uh i've taken a

01:57:46.480 --> 01:57:52.000
bit of a bath sir i've taken a bit of a bath but you know what i feel clean i feel cleansed

01:57:54.320 --> 01:57:59.040
i just yeah i don't know i wonder where this oh man oh do i even say this i really don't want to

01:57:59.040 --> 01:58:10.480
get into this topic on when is he muted nope i just stopped um oh it looked like your mouth

01:58:10.480 --> 01:58:18.000
was still moving that was weird oh it's the delay uh yeah probably chat let's do it see it no balls

01:58:18.560 --> 01:58:23.680
you know we're we're in an extremely active extremely erratic trade war right now so we'll

01:58:23.680 --> 01:58:29.520
see what happens to housing in all of canada to be honest who knows yeah we've we've never

01:58:30.400 --> 01:58:37.680
been in this situation yeah ever but hey i mean it was for a really good reason like i know there's

01:58:37.680 --> 01:58:44.400
a lot of fentanyl um going over the border from canada and it's really it was really wise

01:58:45.520 --> 01:58:53.520
it was wise and measured to put these yeah it was stable you could even say a genius move

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to put these measures in place dead anti-social and full playing chat said say your bowl chat

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which is a fantastic deep cut um yeah i don't know i don't know whatever

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um yeah good luck everybody it all makes release it all makes a ton of sense everything

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niantic spatial is supposedly being spun off as a separate entity but is also receiving a $50

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million investment from scopely as well which brings questions about what player data including

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geolocation and ar scans of locations where they play the game will be shared and used for by these

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parent companies a blog post on pokemon goes website states that the entire pokemon go team

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is staying together through this partnership and that this partnership will help improve the game

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and ensure longer term support never heard that before we've never heard that everyone's staying

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together until there's uh layoffs in like six months to a year we've never heard never heard that that

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didn't happen at uh microsoft recently uh no definitely not definitely not definitely not

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definitely not this is uh it's interesting i mean ten cents been buying at least part of like every

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game for quite a while now um i guess the saudi arabia public investment fund just

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went a little harder and just bought a whole game his tencent seems to usually buy parts

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um different strategy uh this is rough this is rough i expect even worse micro transactions

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funny enough see i have someone popular takes on pokemon go being a pokemon go enjoy your

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i actually think it is a bad game and the only reason why i like it is because it gets me out

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walking um i think things like remote raid passes are bad just in general we know how you feel about

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that i i don't mind using other people for it because there's a method where you can use an app

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to let people add you to their friends list and then you can invite them and then they can

02:05:59.920 --> 02:06:05.520
remote into the raid that you are standing at so i'll go walk around and then call people in to

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like fight the raid with me so i can do more difficult things but i don't think you as an

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individual should use remote raid passes but that is not a popular unless you have like a disability

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sure whatever yeah uh there's there's there are situations where it it makes sense sure but for

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most people quantum rand says read the pokemon go privacy policy this isn't an issue for players

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at all yeah it's already really bad um here's the thing about privacy policies though is that they

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are only as bad as they are until they're worse nothing actually prevents a company from just

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updating their privacy policy and then you're gonna get a notification that the privacy policy

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was updated most people aren't gonna read it or you know coming back to my point about

02:06:54.000 --> 02:07:00.240
people not paying attention to reviews of GPU's people won't pay attention to community backlash

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around a privacy policy update in general and it will just state what it is because people are

02:07:05.440 --> 02:07:12.400
going to desperately need their new pokemon and then it is what it is you know okay i'm gonna i'm

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gonna counter a little bit um you said the like okay remote raid passes are it's good for people

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with disabilities and um someone full plane chat said okay but or j cup and full plane chat said

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or you just don't live in a city i think my counter for this is what i said right before that

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which is it's not a good game like if these things are true i pokemon go just sucks like it's a

02:07:35.840 --> 02:07:42.000
it's a bad game the only benefit is that it gets you out walking so if you can't or if you live in

02:07:42.000 --> 02:07:47.600
an area where it there's nothing to do by doing that then honestly i just think it's a bad game

02:07:47.600 --> 02:07:54.080
and i wouldn't recommend playing it at all um i wouldn't recommend paying egregious amounts of money

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to be able to play it in a less effective manner no i just would recommend not playing it like it's

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not a good game don't go spend your time doing something more fun and engaging i i don't know i

02:08:09.360 --> 02:08:13.920
don't so that's i think that's my defense for it is it just sucks so you shouldn't go out of your

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way to spend more money playing a game that isn't very good from your couch instead of going out

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and walking which makes the game good um anyways so i got that out of the way i suspect the biggest

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win that they can have with the community and the biggest financial win that they can have

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is uncapping the amount of remote raid passes that you can use because i think right now it's

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capped at like three per day or something yeah and the crazy thing to me is they caught i don't

02:08:42.080 --> 02:08:46.720
know how much they cost but i think they cost like more than a dollar each and people rejoice

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when for special events they lift they i don't think they lift the cap but they raise the cap

02:08:50.880 --> 02:08:57.920
to some higher amount i'm gonna say like 20 or something and people get stoked wild so like

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i think they are going to do something that community wants and lift the cap on remote raids

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and they're going to make tons of money i don't even think and i think it's going to suck point

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it's got to be it's got to be the data because that from my understanding was the entire point

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of ingress and pokemon go and all this stuff in the first place are crazy there's there's benefits

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yeah the mapping routinely do ar scans are different areas like what is possibly the point

02:09:30.720 --> 02:09:35.680
of that unless you're trying to harvest some form of data it's interesting to me that's worth that

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much um dude the valuations of things in general are sort of baffling to me yeah um i don't think

02:09:45.840 --> 02:09:51.200
we actually said how much the deal was for i thought it was 300 million though i'm not sure i don't

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think it's no excuse me three and a half billion sorry i was off by uh by a decimal place my goodness

02:09:59.040 --> 02:10:03.920
i mean there are still three and a half billion dollars there are still a crazy amount of pokemon

02:10:03.920 --> 02:10:11.920
go players and i guarantee you that that game makes monster money just crazy amounts of money

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because like it's it's i think generally easier for people to justify

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okay the people that will go out and walk i think it's easier for them to justify because

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they're like oh okay this is i don't know i'm gonna buy an event pass for this cool event

02:10:28.480 --> 02:10:33.520
day thing it cost me like six dollars i'm gonna walk and do and whatever you compound that by

02:10:33.520 --> 02:10:38.560
enough people that's a ton of money um and then you have the the people that will just sit in

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remote raid like crazy and that's wild amounts of money um interestingly they kept ingress

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so it's not like they're not still maintaining game code huh so it's not like they're just like

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yeah we don't want to like make games anymore or something so they only sold pokemon go monster

02:11:02.960 --> 02:11:14.160
hunter now and pickman bloom that's weird i i wonder yeah people even play ingress still i i like um

02:11:17.280 --> 02:11:22.480
whoa whiskey nerd 88 says i met my ex playing pokemon go last time i checked i spent about

02:11:22.480 --> 02:11:26.640
six thousand dollars in the game but have not spent any money on the game in years

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wow and due to the nature of the game if he hasn't played in years his pokemon probably aren't

02:11:36.720 --> 02:11:40.960
even that good anymore because there's there's constant power creep right

02:11:44.560 --> 02:11:49.360
oh friends who still play ingress i know people play it i just i wonder how many because you

02:11:49.360 --> 02:11:54.880
never really hear about it as far as i understand it goes the ingress community is like probably

02:11:54.880 --> 02:11:59.200
not shrinking much anymore because they you get to that point where it's like these people are just

02:11:59.200 --> 02:12:04.560
gonna play forever um but i i wonder how many are left because like i played ping ingress back in

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like what 2013 or something um and for the same reason then that i like pokemon go now right like

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i liked the idea i i would walk around a city using ingress as my guide um because like it would

02:12:20.720 --> 02:12:25.040
bring you to interesting like the statues or whatever else like you could use it to kind of

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bring you around the city um i don't know man it's uh it's interesting i don't think they're

02:12:34.960 --> 02:12:38.880
going to make the game better for players like me if they make any changes i think they will

02:12:38.880 --> 02:12:44.880
make the game better for players that are not like me but we'll see our discussion questions

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here are pretty interesting i mean is savvy games group essentially just publicly funded private

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equity uh yes i mean you gotta remember that in um in the middle east like public funds are kind of

02:12:58.160 --> 02:13:02.960
like private funds like is it not i i genuinely don't know anything about it it's not like the

02:13:02.960 --> 02:13:10.560
Norwegian um investment thing i'm not convinced that the citizens get any benefit from this

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in the same way that the Norwegian one does um what i what i do wonder though is if uh if north

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america is kind of behind the eight ball on the whole public private equity thing well there's

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been some talks about that from america i think recently yeah not canada i don't think but america

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i i think getting some seen anything kind of got some public investment funds that

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raise money i mean of natural resources makes a lot of sense there are things that are kind of

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similar like i know some of the teachers unions in canada for instance um invest there yeah like

02:13:51.840 --> 02:13:57.200
these pension funds are pretty big and that's that's us effectively public they're all it's all

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public servants who work for these unions right so it's kind of public funding so like sort of

02:14:01.120 --> 02:14:06.400
accept that it's private like it's it's clear this is not just like a black and white thing is it

02:14:06.400 --> 02:14:10.960
private funding or is it public funding there's a there's kind of a spectrum here but i know you

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literally just said it um but i'm going to clarify because it is so insane and i'm not necessarily

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sure you meant this directly do you know about the on the ontario teachers fund having two hundred

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and fifty billion dollars in net assets i didn't know it was that much but they like own an airport

02:14:29.120 --> 02:14:38.240
and stuff not even in canada like there they are wild um gain teachers okay

02:14:39.520 --> 02:14:46.880
ontario teachers pension plan airport apparently it's the new tano says it's the biggest pension

02:14:46.880 --> 02:14:53.200
fund in the world it's crazy i don't i don't know what's they've just been popping off um

02:14:53.280 --> 02:15:02.080
wow all right okay so it's not an airport it's many airports the ontario teachers

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investment fund owns a substantial portfolio of infrastructure assets including stakes in okay

02:15:08.960 --> 02:15:13.920
fair enough birmingham airport bristol airport copenhagen airport and london city airport

02:15:14.640 --> 02:15:22.880
as well as international water and power utilities like they are not chilling they are going hard

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all right wild all good on them um and yeah someone posted this seems like the

02:15:32.240 --> 02:15:36.000
south east diversifying from oil and that is absolutely what they're doing they're taking

02:15:36.000 --> 02:15:41.280
that oil money and they're putting it into stuff that will continue to grow as the world continues

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to electrify 100 percent um now our next question here is how do you feel about the sale of more

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and more art slash game slash culture to investment companies yeah dead mouse just

02:15:56.080 --> 02:16:01.120
sold his catalog and label for 55 million and it's like on the one hand like get the beg

02:16:01.840 --> 02:16:07.920
but on the other hand uh adam writes i prefer companies investing in artists not just like

02:16:07.920 --> 02:16:18.160
owning the art um and that's that's a really good point and what i'll say is that the you know

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from the time that we got an offer for our company and our ip um the only real way that

02:16:26.320 --> 02:16:35.680
that happens is with these large private equity or union funded um funds they're the only ones that

02:16:35.680 --> 02:16:41.440
can afford what the stuff is worth so that's the only real option to sell i actually had uh i had

02:16:41.440 --> 02:16:50.960
another topic in here that was sort of to oh man shoot i forget well i was going to get into it

02:16:50.960 --> 02:17:00.320
somehow um that it's really hard for canadian companies to not get acquired by us companies

02:17:00.320 --> 02:17:07.440
and the same thing looks like it's starting to happen to uh to western companies oh yeah

02:17:07.440 --> 02:17:10.960
no it was i was going to talk about it in this topic yeah the same thing seems to be happening

02:17:10.960 --> 02:17:20.480
to western companies getting acquired by like saudi um well funds and this is this is often

02:17:21.680 --> 02:17:28.320
not hostile yeah like there's there's i don't know i haven't done enough research the whole

02:17:28.320 --> 02:17:31.680
world's been on fire it's been hard to properly stay on top of everything so i don't know if

02:17:31.680 --> 02:17:36.400
this is true or not but as far as my understanding goes there's substantial evidence that are our

02:17:36.400 --> 02:17:43.360
new prime minister up here in canada um when i think it was when trump took office took significant

02:17:43.360 --> 02:17:49.520
steps to move an investment firm down to the states for tax breaks um and now he's running

02:17:49.520 --> 02:17:53.920
our country uh whether that happened or not i don't fully know well i know that it happened but i

02:17:53.920 --> 02:17:56.960
don't know if he was actually involved because there's some people saying that he had left before

02:17:56.960 --> 02:18:02.400
blah blah blah blah i don't know um but like this is this is a thing i mean the the canadian brain

02:18:02.400 --> 02:18:07.040
drain is something that has been known about for a long time you you grow up here you go to school

02:18:07.040 --> 02:18:11.600
here you get a good education you go go get a job in the states because you make way more money

02:18:11.600 --> 02:18:17.920
um yep and it seems like even a strategy where people will will do that and then move back because

02:18:17.920 --> 02:18:22.320
you you make more money and the cost of living is lower so you can save a bunch of money then you

02:18:22.320 --> 02:18:29.680
save a bunch of money and move back to canada um for the health care and for the retirement

02:18:30.160 --> 02:18:37.440
um but it's not just people it's like entire companies and entire like art catalogs now

02:18:37.440 --> 02:18:42.640
and it sort of looks like it's starting to happen to the us now as well where the where

02:18:42.640 --> 02:18:46.800
things are just getting acquired and stripped out and you've you talked about 10 cent basically

02:18:46.800 --> 02:18:53.600
owning a piece of like everything like every gaming every gaming ip every gaming company um

02:18:54.000 --> 02:19:02.160
um how do you you know how do you compete with that i mean it's economic yeah it's economic warfare

02:19:02.160 --> 02:19:06.560
yeah at a certain point i mean i i think it actually is yeah um

02:19:10.720 --> 02:19:16.400
good luck everybody what i will say is um there was no way that we were gonna get the same offer

02:19:16.880 --> 02:19:22.640
for LMG from a canadian investor or from a canadian company

02:19:24.800 --> 02:19:30.960
that we got from a us-based company and these days i kind of doubt that we would get the

02:19:30.960 --> 02:19:37.600
same offer from a us company that we could get from a saudi backed company or a chinese backed

02:19:37.600 --> 02:19:45.120
company there's a question there's a question what if a saudi backed company offered 150

02:19:47.360 --> 02:19:54.480
so far i have not even traveled there and it's not that it hasn't come up what if what if you

02:19:54.480 --> 02:19:59.200
wouldn't have to travel there it's no problem well no it's not about the travel i'm saying

02:19:59.200 --> 02:20:07.680
so far we have had zero engagement got it um i mean look i'm not going to pretend that i'm

02:20:07.680 --> 02:20:14.400
some kind of paragon of of perfection i think every man has a price and i think that if you

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were to say anything other than that every man has a price that's uh i i just don't think it's

02:20:21.200 --> 02:20:28.080
honest um with that said with that said there are there are still good people kori is the name

02:20:28.640 --> 02:20:33.200
says and this is in Floatplane chat my dad is selling his architecture firm to like a dozen

02:20:33.200 --> 02:20:38.240
plus of his employees and is taking a huge loss compared to offers he received from bigger fish

02:20:38.240 --> 02:20:44.000
i think that's super cool i think i've told the story already on the show about um my uncle's

02:20:44.000 --> 02:20:50.400
vet friend who owned a veterinary practice and could have sold to the like predatory

02:20:50.400 --> 02:20:55.680
corporate that that's been buying up all the vet practices and then hiking the prices in the lower

02:20:55.680 --> 02:21:04.080
mainland and instead sold to to my friend um who is who is running it now uh dr duff at

02:21:04.080 --> 02:21:09.680
fraser heights animal hospital she is an amazing human being and deserved to get a good deal

02:21:09.680 --> 02:21:14.480
let's go she paid she paid a fair price it wasn't that she was asking for handouts but it was just

02:21:14.480 --> 02:21:21.520
that these uh equity backed companies can afford to pay three times two or three times a fair price

02:21:22.080 --> 02:21:27.680
and then they're playing along with dominance yeah so they're they're not as worried about ebita

02:21:27.680 --> 02:21:34.240
they're worried about owning every single option you can go to yes exactly um

02:21:34.720 --> 02:21:40.640
um gremlin injector says your channel isn't the kind of business a pension fund would want to deal

02:21:40.640 --> 02:21:47.120
with managing um your mistake is calling it a channel uh the channel is less than half of our

02:21:47.120 --> 02:21:52.000
revenue now uh we're going to have a an updated version of how does LMG make money pretty quick

02:21:52.000 --> 02:21:58.800
here but i think you'll be surprised to discover that um we are running a company over here it's

02:21:58.800 --> 02:22:05.040
very interesting to see people's uh sort of perspective on what it is that LMG is exactly

02:22:06.080 --> 02:22:15.680
um yeah we are absolutely the kind of thing that investors buy we have just made the decision

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not to sell the only difference with that one offer was that it was um it was to a group that

02:22:25.840 --> 02:22:32.000
we were willing to hear out because they seemed not that crappy and so it's the first time we ever

02:22:32.000 --> 02:22:37.120
actually got a number for the company because everyone else we've just kind of not even gotten

02:22:37.120 --> 02:22:44.160
that far with yeah rod Rosenberg says LMG is a tool company we aren't not a tool company i'll

02:22:44.160 --> 02:22:52.240
tell you that much for sure yeah offers are an interesting experience to go through um

02:22:52.640 --> 02:23:02.480
even with zero intent to entertain because it's interesting to see like what people put value on

02:23:03.920 --> 02:23:10.560
um like what like what that's an interesting conversation do you want to talk about that

02:23:10.560 --> 02:23:16.000
like what what were they largely placing value on when they were buying a lot of it was creator

02:23:16.000 --> 02:23:24.240
warehouse yeah um a lot of it was the institutional knowledge on the content creation side as well

02:23:25.120 --> 02:23:32.240
they wanted um they wanted our people in leadership positions um at some of their other

02:23:32.240 --> 02:23:42.160
ips they wanted our ips to continue ticking and they wanted our our experience and our expertise

02:23:43.120 --> 02:23:49.840
diversifying our revenue from traditional creator revenue streams like adsense and patreon

02:23:49.840 --> 02:23:55.920
to building our own site like Floatplane although that sorry was a smaller part of it

02:23:55.920 --> 02:24:04.800
and especially expanding intermerge see like that but that that experience is is interesting

02:24:04.800 --> 02:24:11.520
even if you're not willing to entertain the offer oh definitely definitely seeing what other people

02:24:11.600 --> 02:24:16.960
value about your company 100% and when it's a purchasing offer it's one of the few times that

02:24:16.960 --> 02:24:25.280
it's like probably going to be legit yeah and not just based on it's not a job offer for me

02:24:25.280 --> 02:24:29.520
yeah at that point like i think i had a two-year clause that i had to stay with the company but

02:24:29.520 --> 02:24:36.560
that was it two years yeah which would be expired by now if we had taken it yeah um top gear 1224

02:24:36.560 --> 02:24:43.280
says did you see the mr beast business breakdown for the investment uh request uh yeah yeah i did

02:24:43.280 --> 02:24:49.680
see that um i am very surprised that jimmy is still in like hypergrowth lose money mode

02:24:50.560 --> 02:24:55.760
not because like i don't think he's doing bigger and bigger things every time and that's

02:24:56.480 --> 02:25:00.080
a big part of why you need to keep taking money and you keep losing money is because you kind of

02:25:00.080 --> 02:25:04.880
try to to use the capital you have to do something even bigger and you know you lose money is just

02:25:04.880 --> 02:25:10.400
sort of part of that process but because i would think that he would at some point just go okay i'm

02:25:10.400 --> 02:25:16.880
worth a billion dollars at this point maybe this is big enough but he uh he doesn't seem to have

02:25:16.880 --> 02:25:22.720
a limit to to what he wants to build over there and looks like beast games was an absolutely

02:25:22.720 --> 02:25:30.320
enormous success for um for his company so i think i think he's shopping another another two

02:25:30.320 --> 02:25:36.400
seasons right now at the rumored price is 150 million a season so uh good for him which is

02:25:37.680 --> 02:25:46.480
really fantastic for new media to be completely honest a hundred percent well like completely

02:25:46.480 --> 02:25:51.200
regardless of what you think of him or his company or anything like that that is a very big step

02:25:51.200 --> 02:25:57.120
for new media because that's that's a there's a there's a certain layer of like the big heads

02:25:57.120 --> 02:26:03.200
never took us seriously even though we can take as many other views as we want we can take as much

02:26:03.200 --> 02:26:08.880
of their money money as they want etc but we were never taken seriously as actual professional

02:26:08.880 --> 02:26:18.800
people who can perform um and clearly it worked extremely well so now it sounds like the the

02:26:18.800 --> 02:26:25.120
rumblings that i'm seeing is that there's there's a shift there now um and they're looking actually

02:26:25.120 --> 02:26:31.200
specifically for content creators i believe mostly specifically youtubers um but i'm sure

02:26:31.200 --> 02:26:36.480
content creators in general i i think i bet you would be youtubers and streamers just because

02:26:36.480 --> 02:26:42.720
short format probably isn't going to transfer youtube is the closest thing to what they already

02:26:42.720 --> 02:26:51.680
do and it's the easiest to understand yeah um i mean in a lot of ways we are we are set up um

02:26:52.560 --> 02:26:58.560
not that differently from the other the other creator companies you know you look at stuff like

02:26:58.560 --> 02:27:08.000
a dude perfect you look at stuff like mr beast um we're just operating at a much smaller scale

02:27:08.000 --> 02:27:16.320
yeah oh yeah yeah for sure top gear says yeah his youtube videos are still a loss but chocolate

02:27:16.320 --> 02:27:24.880
is making money um chocolate the chocolate made less than i anticipated like his net profit on it

02:27:24.880 --> 02:27:31.280
it was on the lower side of what i would expected but would have expected but my approach to business

02:27:31.280 --> 02:27:39.680
building has always been sort of almost like anti growth like it's been very bootstrap make

02:27:39.680 --> 02:27:45.760
sure it's sustainable at every stage and that's not the way to achieve hyper growth um whereas

02:27:46.400 --> 02:27:52.080
he is just like he's like all in every time i think he's raised what was it like 450 million

02:27:52.080 --> 02:27:59.600
dollars or something unbelievable like that we've raised zero dollars um i'll give you a dollar

02:28:00.800 --> 02:28:07.040
oh i'll raise you a dollar is it really an investment though if previously your

02:28:07.040 --> 02:28:10.960
doll i gave you the dollar in the first place yeah i'll give you i'll give you back a dollar

02:28:14.400 --> 02:28:15.600
don't hold the c r a

02:28:20.400 --> 02:28:23.040
oh man what was i going to say yeah it's something to say

02:28:24.000 --> 02:28:28.480
oh uh do you think a lot of that profit because i mean we've talked about this before you think a

02:28:28.480 --> 02:28:32.720
lot of that less profit than you'd expect is just because he's like selling through places like

02:28:32.720 --> 02:28:36.480
walmart and everybody's going to take their cut so the distributors taking their cut walmart

02:28:36.480 --> 02:28:43.360
taking their cut etc yeah we bring everything in house which improves the sustainability of it

02:28:43.360 --> 02:28:48.960
from a business standpoint because we're vertically integrated we control our costs directly um

02:28:48.960 --> 02:28:57.920
but massively reduces your your growth he like hires a team and pays a lot of people and middle

02:28:57.920 --> 02:29:06.320
persons and um and pays for a lot of infrastructure that achieves scale but doesn't achieve um

02:29:06.960 --> 02:29:13.120
necessarily the same profitability for for his company like man being in walmart is insane

02:29:13.120 --> 02:29:19.280
like think about this hold on hold on um how many walmart stores in america i was talking i was

02:29:19.280 --> 02:29:26.000
talking to someone about this recently because it was a really interesting perspective change for me

02:29:26.720 --> 02:29:32.640
when i was uh i was talking to someone about like uh it's this is back when i was at ncix i think

02:29:32.640 --> 02:29:40.080
i was talking to um not taren but my other boss about like you know who cares if this brand is in

02:29:40.080 --> 02:29:45.680
you know best buy or they have their keyboard and walmart like the stuff's not selling i go in there

02:29:45.680 --> 02:29:50.720
and like the shelf like display socks and this and that and he's like okay Linus look

02:29:51.440 --> 02:29:58.000
walmart has at this time according to the ai overview so take take it for what it is walmart has

02:29:58.000 --> 02:30:04.000
4,615 stores in the united states including their super centers discount stores and neighborhood

02:30:04.000 --> 02:30:12.080
markets if you have your product in walmart okay so let's even take something as as cheap as a

02:30:12.080 --> 02:30:18.560
chocolate bar what's a feastable bar like two bucks something like that no idea sure okay so if

02:30:19.200 --> 02:30:26.160
every one of those stores sold just one feastable bar per day which i think is

02:30:27.200 --> 02:30:31.760
pretty reasonable so i'm gonna chat respond it a little bit too quickly with a dollar fifty

02:30:33.040 --> 02:30:37.440
a dollar fifty okay all right well someone else said two dollars and forty two cents i have no idea

02:30:38.800 --> 02:30:43.440
times point you know i'm gonna i'm going with two dollars i'm trusting my instincts okay so that's

02:30:44.000 --> 02:30:51.440
92 30 okay times 365 i think it's pretty i think it's pretty fair to say that any walmart would

02:30:51.440 --> 02:30:56.480
probably manage to sell one feastable bar a day and if it didn't it wouldn't be on the shelf

02:30:56.480 --> 02:31:05.520
okay times 365 means that if every walmart location sold just one of these chocolate bars a day

02:31:05.600 --> 02:31:07.600
it's a 3.3 million dollar business

02:31:12.560 --> 02:31:18.640
it is insane the scale at which companies like this operate because as soon as you go okay yeah

02:31:18.640 --> 02:31:25.120
they could probably sell 10 chocolate bars a day okay now it's a 33 million dollar business

02:31:26.960 --> 02:31:33.120
probably they could sell more than 10 so just being in walmart just being in walmart at all

02:31:33.440 --> 02:31:38.800
be specific locations where that 10 is a joke there's gonna be other locations where 10 might

02:31:38.800 --> 02:31:45.280
be a struggle but like yeah yeah you are almost immediately just by merit of having your product

02:31:45.840 --> 02:31:52.160
in walmart stores going to be a bigger company than LMG and creator warehouse and full plane

02:31:52.160 --> 02:31:57.360
like assuming your product costs let's say you know 10 bucks or 20 bucks obviously walmart is

02:31:57.360 --> 02:32:02.800
taking a significant amount of that margin but in terms of just the the sheer amount of revenue

02:32:02.800 --> 02:32:09.600
like it is dude absolutely wild yeah

02:32:19.520 --> 02:32:25.280
so good luck uh yeah good luck jimmy i forget what topic we're even on right now who knows

02:32:25.600 --> 02:32:32.720
who knows it's not the point i robot i robot more like die robot

02:32:33.680 --> 02:32:39.680
rumba maker i robot claims that it is unclear if the company will be able to survive for the next

02:32:39.680 --> 02:32:47.120
12 months amazon was set to take over the company for 1.7 billion but pulled out after scrutiny from

02:32:47.120 --> 02:32:53.520
both us and european regulators after amazon abandoned the acquisition the company cut more

02:32:53.520 --> 02:33:01.200
than 50 of its workforce reduced inventory and reorganized but still posted a net loss of 146

02:33:01.200 --> 02:33:10.640
million dollars in 2024 and ended the year with 134 million in cash i robot just launched eight

02:33:10.640 --> 02:33:22.240
new vacuums um this is exactly why i didn't want to buy that robot sweeper thing for the badminton

02:33:22.240 --> 02:33:27.200
center remember the one that had a subscription and didn't work at all without the app and the

02:33:27.200 --> 02:33:35.920
subscription because i don't care how well your company is doing today if you can be a market

02:33:35.920 --> 02:33:42.640
leader and then all of a sudden be in a position where it's unclear if you'll be able to survive

02:33:42.720 --> 02:33:46.560
the next 12 months um it can happen to anyone

02:33:50.560 --> 02:33:56.800
our discussion question here is uh competitors seem to have overtaken rumba in terms of price

02:33:56.800 --> 02:34:02.720
and innovation uh how can big established players stay nimble to keep competitors from

02:34:02.720 --> 02:34:07.920
overtaking them i mean that's the innovator's dilemma right is you don't want to cannibalize

02:34:07.920 --> 02:34:13.600
your own product line so you don't and then someone comes in and disrupts you um that's

02:34:13.600 --> 02:34:18.480
one of the things you gotta listen to steve job zone man just do it there's yeah there's almost

02:34:20.080 --> 02:34:26.800
there's almost no companies that survive 100 years man like that's uh that's one of the reasons

02:34:26.800 --> 02:34:34.560
that i look at like cryogenic uh uh freezing like uh preservation and i'm like dude you understand

02:34:34.560 --> 02:34:40.240
that you are basically just like freezing your body in a freezer of a company that literally

02:34:40.240 --> 02:34:46.640
won't exist by the time any theoretical technology could exist resurrect anyway that's a whole other

02:34:46.640 --> 02:34:55.920
thing yeah um i guess that's about it guys is i don't know i i i only daily to rumba for a very

02:34:55.920 --> 02:34:59.520
short period of time because it was at my old house that had a sunken living room so it just

02:34:59.520 --> 02:35:04.800
wasn't that useful for me because they couldn't do stairs yet um does does it does a rumba really

02:35:04.800 --> 02:35:09.520
work without the app or are we just gonna have millions and millions and millions of e-waste

02:35:10.400 --> 02:35:13.280
vacuum robots out there that just don't do anything after this

02:35:16.400 --> 02:35:19.280
i have no idea man but i got a rumba

02:35:20.640 --> 02:35:27.920
huh anyone got a rumba i don't i'm just confused because like to me it just doesn't seem like

02:35:27.920 --> 02:35:34.720
the market should be that big for these things a harris 83 says you can manually press the clean

02:35:34.720 --> 02:35:39.840
button and it will zombie around for a while and then return to base it does but it loses all its

02:35:39.840 --> 02:35:45.680
smart functionality at least it's still oh haven says you can control an i-robot locally especially

02:35:45.680 --> 02:35:48.480
with home assistant cool okay that's pretty cool

02:35:48.720 --> 02:35:56.240
yeah the old ones definitely work without an app

02:35:58.000 --> 02:36:03.520
um okay i connect locally to my home assistant okay quite a few people talking about home

02:36:03.520 --> 02:36:10.800
assistant in here but can it yeah i can what about all the mapping and stuff like does any of that work

02:36:10.800 --> 02:36:21.120
yeah like if you're telling it to engage with the internet it's not not engaging with the internet

02:36:23.440 --> 02:36:27.360
yeah getting new parts is going to be an issue weasel with that said i think the ecosystem

02:36:27.360 --> 02:36:34.240
for these i-robots out there is going to be uh big enough that it'll be in someone's best interest

02:36:34.240 --> 02:36:40.240
to produce replacement parts for them no offline maps okay

02:36:42.800 --> 02:36:48.080
interesting yeah uh jakey microsoft says all the parts i buy from every business from aliexpress

02:36:48.080 --> 02:36:52.880
already anyway well maybe you're part of the problem you ever think of that how will i-robots

02:36:52.880 --> 02:36:59.360
survive well i mean that is that is why the american companies are dying is this just all these

02:37:00.240 --> 02:37:06.240
it's a bunch of chinese companies just completely dominating robot vacuums

02:37:07.520 --> 02:37:14.080
as far as my understanding goes oh yeah 100 percent i'm just i'm just confused like we

02:37:14.080 --> 02:37:18.400
get a ton of like sponsor offers for robot vacuums and stuff and i'm just confused are

02:37:18.400 --> 02:37:26.240
that many people buying them i don't see that many people with them like i just every time and it's

02:37:26.240 --> 02:37:33.600
been a while in in fairness but every time i tried to daily one i just found that it was more work

02:37:34.160 --> 02:37:39.840
manually faffing about with it than it would be to i but i i have a built-in vac so maybe that's

02:37:39.840 --> 02:37:44.880
part of it but it was more work to faff about with the robot than to just like grab the vacuum

02:37:44.880 --> 02:37:50.080
hose and and do a quick vacuum so what are you doing faffing about with the robot

02:37:51.040 --> 02:37:55.360
like i want like i wanted one of the christmas party you don't have to do anything getting it

02:37:55.360 --> 02:38:02.560
unstuck on like the the fluffy carpet we had like i don't know just stuff like going and fixing the

02:38:02.560 --> 02:38:08.800
parts that it like doesn't reach a lot of people these days are living in apartments that don't

02:38:08.800 --> 02:38:15.840
even really have carpeted areas i mean yeah fair enough i mean the early ones didn't really like

02:38:15.920 --> 02:38:20.560
handle going under chairs and around chair legs and stuff very well so there was just there was

02:38:20.560 --> 02:38:24.720
a lot of manual cleaning left over afterward it just didn't really save me much time but like i

02:38:24.720 --> 02:38:30.240
said it's been a while the one that i went from the christmas party has saved tons of time for us

02:38:30.240 --> 02:38:36.880
to be honest because the whole birds are really messy thing they're really messy but they're also

02:38:37.120 --> 02:38:43.440
it's kind of continuing yeah it's not an incredible like it's not disgusting it's just

02:38:44.240 --> 02:38:51.680
a lot of like little poofs of feather or dandruff or whatever else little budgie poops that are

02:38:51.680 --> 02:38:58.960
just like dots of very easy to vacuum up whatever so it's it's very easy for it to do but if you

02:38:58.960 --> 02:39:03.760
don't deal with it it's like kind of gross and builds up but if you just have the vacuum just

02:39:03.760 --> 02:39:11.440
run by every day it's like it's fine yeah fair enough yeah i don't know they're really expensive

02:39:11.440 --> 02:39:18.240
though like i my theory on the whole robot vacuum sponsor thing was just that they were so profitable

02:39:18.240 --> 02:39:23.280
like i i just looked up best vacuum cleaner and there's some verge article and the top one is 40

02:39:23.280 --> 02:39:24.000
percent off

02:39:27.120 --> 02:39:32.480
yeah it's four percent off still over a thousand dollars we have a whole video coming on that

02:39:33.200 --> 02:39:40.720
very soon just like listicles and fair enough affiliate revenue and how that whole big discounts

02:39:40.720 --> 02:39:47.280
how that whole thing works i also think here let's see what rating says because doesn't i think

02:39:47.280 --> 02:39:53.760
ratings does robot vacuums and i i trust them but i don't trust the listicles robot vacuums okay

02:39:53.760 --> 02:39:56.240
did they also say roborock is the best let's see

02:40:02.400 --> 02:40:10.480
yep okay fair enough because like i uh well they do for best vacuum for pet hair the first one

02:40:10.480 --> 02:40:15.600
that came up was roborock s8 pro ultra i was thinking like i see roborock everywhere like is

02:40:15.600 --> 02:40:22.480
this are they just buying position or what dude dude what's that i've got uh this is huge sorry i

02:40:22.480 --> 02:40:34.320
just saw this microsoft teases co-pilot for gaming i heard jan laugh in the background yeah you got

02:40:34.320 --> 02:40:41.200
me too i yesterday microsoft announced that they are preparing to add ai to their gaming platforms

02:40:41.200 --> 02:40:48.400
in the form of co-pilot for gaming which they call the ultimate gaming sidekick they then showed

02:40:48.400 --> 02:40:54.240
off some potential use cases like what to do next in minecraft a recap of a player's previous

02:40:54.240 --> 02:41:00.960
progress in age of empires four and bringing up a strategy guide to defeat a boss this is a quote

02:41:00.960 --> 02:41:06.480
gaming is the only form of entertainment where you can get stuck wait and they seem to think their ai

02:41:06.480 --> 02:41:11.120
companion can help with that microsoft also showed off an admittedly pretty cool demo

02:41:11.120 --> 02:41:15.760
where co-pilot for gaming told a player what character to choose an overwatch to and then

02:41:15.760 --> 02:41:20.560
offered advice after they died like you pushed up too far consider falling back to your teammates

02:41:21.360 --> 02:41:26.480
if the final product manages to actually do this it could be interesting but we'll have to wait to

02:41:26.480 --> 02:41:31.120
see how it actually performs in the real world video game publications were quick to ask the

02:41:31.120 --> 02:41:37.280
question hey how exactly is it getting its information and from where this is from polygon

02:41:37.280 --> 02:41:41.600
voicing concerns that microsoft has just sifted through all of the guides that they made and

02:41:41.600 --> 02:41:49.840
threw that info into an llm this is an alex probably did this topic in the official xbox

02:41:49.840 --> 02:41:54.880
podcast about this there were multiple times for the host said things like my mom has been

02:41:54.880 --> 02:42:00.160
getting really into gaming so i think so many times co-pilot could just answer this question

02:42:00.160 --> 02:42:05.920
for her it's like um bro your mom probably is just using games as a way to connect with you

02:42:05.920 --> 02:42:10.000
an ai assistant sounds like it would make it a lonelier experience for her yeah yeah thanks

02:42:10.000 --> 02:42:17.600
out oh that's the whole reason i don't like this so great perfect way to lay it out alex i

02:42:17.600 --> 02:42:22.240
appreciate that um thanks for playing with me mom uh actually i don't want to explain this to you

02:42:22.240 --> 02:42:31.360
can you just ask the ai uh this is this is the same like

02:42:36.160 --> 02:42:42.240
i don't know it's planned to be available to insiders this april but our discussion question

02:42:42.240 --> 02:42:48.080
forget about what it can do here what would you like a gaming ai companion to do

02:42:48.080 --> 02:42:59.680
in single player games yes it could be fun if there were

02:43:02.480 --> 02:43:12.800
more dynamic and lively ai buddies i guess like something i thought about is if you were playing

02:43:12.800 --> 02:43:22.320
like a squad-based combat game of some sort and sure you didn't have those six yeah and but you

02:43:22.320 --> 02:43:27.440
didn't have to do keyboard commands or whatever to like you know okay i have to walk up to the door

02:43:27.440 --> 02:43:32.160
then i have to look at the left side of the door and be like okay you guys stack up here and then

02:43:32.160 --> 02:43:36.880
go uh they went in the wrong order so i need to get this guy out get this guy and there's you're

02:43:36.880 --> 02:43:40.720
sitting there doing all these keyboard commands in front of the door and then finally okay and

02:43:40.720 --> 02:43:44.800
then you press whatever button and then things don't go properly it's really annoying i find a

02:43:44.800 --> 02:43:49.440
lot of times when you have multi unit control in a single player games thing things can get a

02:43:49.440 --> 02:43:54.080
little tedious and if you could you're talking about waist command built into games this is

02:43:54.080 --> 02:44:00.240
copilot yeah i don't want that at all i don't want copilot even a little bit i think mr wizard

02:44:00.240 --> 02:44:07.040
and Floatplane chat has a good one all right ai that was a sixth shot bro want me to throw that

02:44:07.040 --> 02:44:13.920
clip on a timeline for you that's pretty good that's a use case i probably want it to shut the

02:44:13.920 --> 02:44:18.560
hell up because if i just made a six shot i'm probably trying to make another one and i want

02:44:18.560 --> 02:44:28.080
to be able to listen don't talk to me right now i'm trying to focus i just got my clip and i would

02:44:28.080 --> 02:44:33.280
like to try to get another shot and then when i'm done i can go bump but dump and get my clip myself

02:44:33.280 --> 02:44:37.920
because it just recorded the last 20 minutes because i have shadow play enabled because why not

02:44:39.200 --> 02:44:44.720
okay okay i do not anyone else has anything six shot bro listen to chat six on the chat

02:44:48.400 --> 02:44:49.840
hey xbox clip that

02:44:52.720 --> 02:44:57.200
yeah they've got nothing else man yeah because there isn't anything else because it's just

02:44:57.200 --> 02:45:02.640
there's this like there's this whole concept of and i don't remember who popularized it or whatever

02:45:02.640 --> 02:45:04.240
but there's this whole concept that

02:45:06.880 --> 02:45:15.280
when when a medium gets surpassed its flaws will be romanticized and will be

02:45:16.240 --> 02:45:22.640
immediate almost immediately emulated so like if somebody didn't like something about a certain

02:45:23.760 --> 02:45:28.560
medium if somebody didn't like that there was a very limited range range in eight bit music

02:45:29.520 --> 02:45:35.440
people will go back and try to make it or film grain or something like that we are currently living

02:45:35.440 --> 02:45:42.000
in an era where people are trying to find retro cameras because they like the feeling that the

02:45:42.000 --> 02:45:50.320
retro cameras are able to create um yeah when you lose this you lose like perfection is in some

02:45:50.320 --> 02:45:55.920
ways a loss of character like you you lose like these these interesting tidbits of this thing that

02:45:56.000 --> 02:46:02.960
you made so i i this is something that i i constantly complain about like i i've talked about how

02:46:04.720 --> 02:46:10.800
you know when when computer stuff was more volatile when it was more difficult when parts

02:46:10.800 --> 02:46:15.200
failed more often when we had liquid caps and he had to try to fix that and when things went

02:46:15.200 --> 02:46:19.920
wrong all the time and it was kind of hard it was more interesting it was more engaging it was

02:46:20.000 --> 02:46:26.240
a better hobby in my opinion objectively it's still cool but in my opinion it was just better

02:46:28.160 --> 02:46:30.560
s li was like kind of junk but it was interesting

02:46:31.760 --> 02:46:35.760
it was fun it was unique it was maybe better is a strong word but we could say more interesting

02:46:35.760 --> 02:46:41.360
more interesting more enjoyable to to someone with my interests and my personality better

02:46:41.360 --> 02:46:46.880
maybe not better for everyone but better for me at least you have this this like marching forward

02:46:46.880 --> 02:46:53.280
where things get worse internet gets better land parties are almost killed because why bother we're

02:46:53.280 --> 02:46:57.520
going to bring him back luke you can just we're bringing him back and and that's only worry brother

02:46:57.520 --> 02:47:03.120
we are romanticizing the bad parts of something in the past that created something good that we

02:47:03.120 --> 02:47:06.720
find endearing which is great and i like that because we're bringing back land parties land

02:47:06.720 --> 02:47:11.840
parties are dope but land parties started to die when the internet got too good but i genuinely

02:47:11.840 --> 02:47:19.920
think people enjoy playing games together online less than just doing the land why i 100% agree

02:47:19.920 --> 02:47:24.400
and i think we have to find a sorry i'll let you finish this bit but i got to talk to you about

02:47:24.400 --> 02:47:31.040
something after no i'm like effectively done it's just this is this just is fearful for me because

02:47:31.040 --> 02:47:37.280
i see this reducing online co-op gameplay or playing with your friends are like hey i want to

02:47:37.280 --> 02:47:40.480
pick up this game you've been playing it for a while do you want to like watch me play for a bit

02:47:40.480 --> 02:47:44.160
and help me get better or can we play together so i can learn from you or whatever that's going

02:47:44.160 --> 02:47:47.840
to disappear when people are like oh just play with co-pilot for a while then play with me i

02:47:47.840 --> 02:47:54.320
don't want to carry you and it's like man that sucks so i was playing vampire survivors last night

02:47:54.320 --> 02:48:01.200
and uh it occurred to me that there's like there's one coffin i'm trying to find or something sure

02:48:01.200 --> 02:48:06.400
and like i couldn't like find it i couldn't figure out how to get over to it and i was like frustrated

02:48:06.400 --> 02:48:09.920
and when i was reading through this topic i was like oh yeah that could totally help me with that

02:48:09.920 --> 02:48:18.800
or it could advise me like which weapon to take um because uh you know i saw already earlier in

02:48:18.800 --> 02:48:23.600
this playthrough that its companion one for the upgrade is like one of the ones that's getting

02:48:23.600 --> 02:48:28.400
rolled so i should take this one so it could you know like there's things that it could observe but

02:48:28.400 --> 02:48:33.120
like i've gone out of my way in that game to like not look anything up so i've been able to kind of

02:48:33.120 --> 02:48:40.640
discover it as i go and i could look something up and i just feel like you know for me the the

02:48:40.640 --> 02:48:48.320
voyage of discovery is such a big part of yeah the joy of playing a game but maybe you know maybe

02:48:48.320 --> 02:48:54.320
that's just old-fashioned and maybe people are gonna the like high quality joy which is i think

02:48:54.320 --> 02:49:02.640
another somewhat i'm sure people yeah i can make this argument um for for previous things as well

02:49:02.640 --> 02:49:08.320
but i think this is somewhat of a modern problem where there's like a lot of low quality dopamine

02:49:08.320 --> 02:49:14.800
yeah low quality joy that weak hit yeah weak but constant right like it's that thing that i was

02:49:14.800 --> 02:49:19.520
just describing with the land party like you have to do a lot of work especially if you're not just

02:49:19.520 --> 02:49:24.160
going to one like if you have to if you're just doing one at your buddy's house or whatever you

02:49:24.160 --> 02:49:27.520
have to you know bring tables over bring chairs over bring your whole computer over do all these

02:49:27.520 --> 02:49:30.480
types of things set everything up network everything together there's all these steps

02:49:30.560 --> 02:49:36.240
it's work but then the hit is strong right like it's yeah it's really cool the heights are really

02:49:36.240 --> 02:49:40.880
high you can remember this stuff forever if you just co-op playing games online or competitive

02:49:40.880 --> 02:49:47.120
playing games oh yeah dude like that that halo round that was like one with a we'll never ever

02:49:47.120 --> 02:49:55.360
never forget it never that was crazy yeah that was crazy yeah but it's like it's and that exact

02:49:55.440 --> 02:50:01.600
same scenario could happen purely online and it'd be cool but it's not the same it's not the same

02:50:01.600 --> 02:50:05.920
you lose that social element you're you're the microphone from the person who's screaming and

02:50:05.920 --> 02:50:10.560
cheering is getting auto-gained down you're not seeing the physical presence of people

02:50:10.560 --> 02:50:14.240
i think it's like 70 percent of communication is body language you're not seeing any of it

02:50:14.240 --> 02:50:19.360
like it's just yeah it's not the same you're diluting the experience and i just this this

02:50:19.360 --> 02:50:26.480
type of stuff just it's just dread for me it's just like damn we're losing another thing that's

02:50:26.480 --> 02:50:33.360
that's all it feels like okay so here's something i want to figure out for whale land because one

02:50:33.360 --> 02:50:42.880
of the best experiences for me gaming wise is like sitting all together having the teams sit

02:50:42.880 --> 02:50:50.240
together you know what i mean um obviously there's things that kind of suck about it um

02:50:50.240 --> 02:50:54.720
you know mic bleed or you know whatever right like you can find issues with it but

02:50:56.480 --> 02:51:03.760
like i wanted i want to do like some team games where we literally go okay i know you have all

02:51:03.760 --> 02:51:11.520
your stuff set up over there too bad pick up your computer the first eight people pick up your computer

02:51:11.520 --> 02:51:17.440
who have their computers at these desks at at this desk and the first eight people that have

02:51:17.440 --> 02:51:24.480
their computers across from them we're playing let's go we're playing halo c e or we're playing

02:51:24.480 --> 02:51:29.920
you know whatever right um we're playing worms it's just going to be whatever laptop and steam

02:51:29.920 --> 02:51:36.960
deck users that just run over and wait immediately okay whatever we'll have to i like the concept

02:51:36.960 --> 02:51:42.880
though i'm down with the general concept yeah yeah i want to not sell every seat i want to have

02:51:42.880 --> 02:51:48.480
like a reserved area so um i don't care if anyone else cares about it because for me it's like

02:51:48.480 --> 02:51:52.400
when someone when when you get someone i want to be able to stand up and be like

02:51:53.600 --> 02:51:59.520
got him you know like i want to be able to look them in the eye and and and vice versa like i

02:51:59.600 --> 02:52:06.720
genuinely i enjoy the trash talk element of land gaming whether it's directed at me or

02:52:06.720 --> 02:52:12.880
whether it's directed at other people it adds so much energy to it um and so i want to find a way

02:52:13.520 --> 02:52:19.120
to have the small land experience where everybody's playing the same game you're effectively all

02:52:19.120 --> 02:52:24.800
packed in a room playing together within a big land that has over 200 people at it that's what

02:52:24.800 --> 02:52:33.760
i want to figure out yeah i um packs in its land prime in my opinion not to not to pun with the prime

02:52:33.760 --> 02:52:42.320
thing um they had tournament tables so they would have generally it was five so they'd have five

02:52:42.320 --> 02:52:47.120
computers and they did they did back-to-back monitors so you'd have one one team on one side

02:52:47.120 --> 02:52:51.120
the other team on the other side so if you stood up you're looking at the other team

02:52:51.120 --> 02:52:56.640
and they'd have a section that was like that or they would have a stage and it was five on one

02:52:56.640 --> 02:53:01.520
side five on the other side so it's all flat but then there would be like the the big screen that

02:53:01.520 --> 02:53:05.840
shows the like spectator view or the commentators or whatever would be in the middle and the teams

02:53:05.840 --> 02:53:11.280
on each side or you're off on the side and you're you're just facing each other um and they used

02:53:11.280 --> 02:53:20.400
to do that a lot and it was sick and it was the this is all a part of the like it matters man i

02:53:20.480 --> 02:53:24.800
swear it matters i know i know it's like weird and seems like romanticized and sensationalized

02:53:24.800 --> 02:53:30.000
but i swear it matters when it's your team's turn and you and all your buddies that are

02:53:30.000 --> 02:53:37.040
singing one part all have to stand up and like leave your kit and walk over to this other area

02:53:37.040 --> 02:53:42.880
and now you know like that team's on the same computers as we are they have the same peripherals

02:53:42.880 --> 02:53:50.240
as us we're sitting on a land connection and it's like me and the boys or me and whoever no excuses

02:53:50.320 --> 02:53:55.040
and like just the walk over is such a psychological moment

02:53:56.560 --> 02:53:59.760
of like you and your friends you've been playing games with for years or whatever

02:54:00.720 --> 02:54:05.520
effectively marching over to this other side to put it on the line against these other guys

02:54:05.520 --> 02:54:10.000
in some game you've probably never even played or haven't played in years and these other guys

02:54:10.000 --> 02:54:15.360
across the table who knows maybe they have maybe they haven't but like you're so invested in that

02:54:15.360 --> 02:54:21.760
moment it's so sick like i i remember just so many of those because we would sign up for a

02:54:21.760 --> 02:54:27.280
ton of tournaments all the time just because that part of it was so much fun i did a minecraft

02:54:27.280 --> 02:54:32.080
tournament one time i'm pretty sure i had never even played minecraft before i remember one of

02:54:32.080 --> 02:54:36.160
the the tournament people was like do you even know like what you're doing and i was like no

02:54:37.440 --> 02:54:42.720
but i just i was like maybe i can figure out yeah maybe in that situation i was like maybe i can

02:54:42.720 --> 02:54:46.560
figure it out oftentimes i could do pretty okay in games with no like actual real practice someone

02:54:46.560 --> 02:54:52.560
said how i don't remember yet to like get wheat or something and do some other things it was like

02:54:52.560 --> 02:55:01.200
you had to finish a certain list of tasks um and i didn't come in last but still um i don't know

02:55:01.200 --> 02:55:09.760
there's uh these like steps involved the when you make things too easy you some you very often

02:55:09.760 --> 02:55:15.760
lose the lose the fun you lose the quality dopamine there's this whole concept of type two fun

02:55:16.480 --> 02:55:22.800
and that i i think is like almost too extreme i think sometimes just it can still be easy fun

02:55:22.800 --> 02:55:29.440
but if you make it too easy it's you just lose all the quality yeah anything uh anything worth

02:55:29.440 --> 02:55:36.880
doing is is work yeah pretty much so i ha man it's like one point i want to figure it because i

02:55:36.880 --> 02:55:43.280
don't want i don't want to have like like if we're doing the the whole the teams facing each other

02:55:43.280 --> 02:55:48.720
set up right it's really hard to do team balance like okay yeah can you guys switch teams and it

02:55:48.720 --> 02:55:55.760
involves like unplugging and moving not necessarily unplugging if you so i hear i hear what you're

02:55:55.760 --> 02:56:01.600
saying and for our events it might have to be unplugging but um at packs they had computers

02:56:01.600 --> 02:56:08.720
there already they had setups there already that was um Intel landfest or whatever though

02:56:09.520 --> 02:56:16.880
yeah so it might might not be super possible um but that was that was pretty sick i mean i

02:56:16.880 --> 02:56:22.080
think there's some pretty cool ways i don't know i think there's some pretty cool ways you could

02:56:22.080 --> 02:56:28.320
also spectacle to you we could also just build computers and just have standardized setups for

02:56:28.720 --> 02:56:32.400
that way we wouldn't have to deal with like connectivity issues or whatever else it would

02:56:32.400 --> 02:56:37.440
just all already be set up for the games that we really want to do that for i might just not

02:56:37.440 --> 02:56:45.440
even bring a computer i might just hang out there the whole time you're involved in every

02:56:45.440 --> 02:56:49.680
tournament game it's like one of the players no matter what oh it wouldn't be for tournaments

02:56:49.680 --> 02:56:56.400
it would just be for like head to head head to head games it's not necessarily which is so sick

02:56:56.480 --> 02:57:00.080
to be honest like this is that's the yeah i don't know it's practically the whole point of

02:57:00.080 --> 02:57:05.520
the land the lower the stakes like the harder i'll fight it's almost more fun yeah who cares like

02:57:05.520 --> 02:57:10.560
that's that's yeah some yeah a lot of the best land games are games that people don't play all

02:57:10.560 --> 02:57:16.800
the time it's um yeah yeah like i there isn't a very many there were some but there weren't very

02:57:16.800 --> 02:57:21.440
many tournaments where they were games that i actually played that i had a ton of fun with

02:57:22.400 --> 02:57:26.720
um yeah it was mostly games that i i didn't really play but most other people didn't really

02:57:26.720 --> 02:57:32.960
play either so that made you gotta try to do that rts FPS one for you yeah

02:57:35.360 --> 02:57:40.000
like we gotta just we gotta just do it gotta just like draw a line down the middle of the

02:57:40.000 --> 02:57:47.440
facility and go okay let's go it's so old now but i would i would love to do it yeah

02:57:48.400 --> 02:57:55.040
it'd be sweet um all right what else we got oh LMG community member fixes corrupted

02:57:55.040 --> 02:58:03.280
wanvods yeah user boy 1321 posted on the LTT subreddit that they managed to save roughly 95

02:58:03.280 --> 02:58:09.600
percent of those corrupted wan shows between 2012 and 2015 to give some context these files

02:58:09.600 --> 02:58:15.520
became corrupted due to youtube retroactively re-encoding older vods across the platform

02:58:16.000 --> 02:58:20.640
they've made a youtube channel LTT archive which has most of the recovered videos up right now if

02:58:20.640 --> 02:58:28.000
you'd like to go watch young luke and Linus but recently youtube has also been testing

02:58:28.000 --> 02:58:32.560
drm on their videos as an attempt to circumvent the downloading of youtube videos meaning something

02:58:32.560 --> 02:58:39.040
like this might not be possible in the future so far the videos that have seen this happen

02:58:39.040 --> 02:58:43.200
have had this drm forced upon those videos including some videos that are licensed as

02:58:43.280 --> 02:58:48.400
creative comments so our discussion question here is are we going to sue the hell out of

02:58:48.400 --> 02:58:54.640
this guy for re-uploading our content yeah um no no what we would do is we would just

02:58:55.520 --> 02:59:01.600
say hey if it's monetized uh that's our content and you know we should probably get the monetization

02:59:01.600 --> 02:59:10.000
for it um however in this case um my this is not a decision that i would make on my own anymore

02:59:10.000 --> 02:59:15.680
i want to make that very clear but my inclination would be to just fully leave it alone just because

02:59:16.480 --> 02:59:23.600
it was transformative in a sense in that it re-transformed back to the original state

02:59:23.600 --> 02:59:28.560
after the platform that we were on ruined it and it's not like we were going to make a ton of money

02:59:28.560 --> 02:59:35.760
from these anyway so um oh they're in full time being oh hey look at that okay what's up pug boy

02:59:35.760 --> 02:59:42.320
um but this is not a decision that i would make on my own it is technically our ip and i don't know

02:59:42.320 --> 02:59:47.760
what our ip not rip rippin pieces uh it is technically our ip and i don't know what the

02:59:47.760 --> 02:59:53.600
implications are if we don't actively protect it i know that with trademarks for instance that can

02:59:53.600 --> 02:59:58.640
be a problem so i don't know i'm not giving a final answer on that right now but my inclination is to

02:59:58.640 --> 03:00:07.840
leave it alone um and then our other discussion question is if youtube forces drm like forces

03:00:07.840 --> 03:00:13.040
encryption on media upload it to the site who owns it now that it's uploaded i think youtube's been

03:00:13.040 --> 03:00:19.360
pretty clear for a long time that they uh own the rights for it it will still be your content but it

03:00:19.360 --> 03:00:26.960
will be basically um binary you know you either upload it to the site and it's available on the

03:00:26.960 --> 03:00:33.280
site or you delete it from the site and and that's and that's it in a way um i could actually see

03:00:33.280 --> 03:00:39.280
rights holders preferring the system because then nobody else can theoretically download the content

03:00:39.280 --> 03:00:47.200
and um re upload it somewhere else so it does give you the owner of that content the ability to

03:00:47.200 --> 03:00:53.920
control where it is uploaded to theoretically but i sincerely doubt that this encryption will remain

03:00:54.560 --> 03:00:58.000
unbroken for any meaningful amount of time

03:01:01.840 --> 03:01:09.120
i found a one of the archives that was recovered um or restored maybe i'll go with that let's see um

03:01:12.960 --> 03:01:19.120
oh yeah you and rich both raise the comms both were yeah the sponsor by razor comms was a crazy

03:01:19.120 --> 03:01:24.480
throwback rich being on the channel was a bit of a throwback hasn't been on here a long time

03:01:24.480 --> 03:01:30.720
and then we're both wearing like starcraft fanboy shirts and then look at the title

03:01:32.800 --> 03:01:35.600
uh i can't even see it in my preview it's small

03:01:37.760 --> 03:01:41.360
it's probably late enough in the video i can just say it legal legends poorly oh my god

03:01:41.360 --> 03:01:48.000
okay

03:01:49.920 --> 03:02:00.400
oh man um good times good era 2013 good stuff charge nuclei says encryption can never be broken

03:02:01.520 --> 03:02:07.280
no but it can be leaked it can be broken and if it isn't broken it can be leaked yeah wait what is

03:02:07.360 --> 03:02:15.200
this video that will have to be played back online the keys will have to be owned by someone

03:02:15.760 --> 03:02:25.280
and so yeah at some point um yeah encryption can never be broken i think they might have

03:02:25.280 --> 03:02:30.400
been slash s-ing but just didn't slash s i just wanted to get out there at the end of that though

03:02:30.640 --> 03:02:32.080
okay i see

03:02:34.960 --> 03:02:43.920
um why isn't my chromecast working so you hoarded chromecast audios to sell on ebay since

03:02:43.920 --> 03:02:47.600
there's still no alternative on the market sorry sorry one second one second one second

03:02:49.520 --> 03:02:58.640
have you ever found this jacket no i never found it again i left that jacket no i don't know what

03:02:58.640 --> 03:03:04.640
happened to it sorry keep going um so you hoarded chromecast audios to sell on ebay blah blah blah

03:03:04.640 --> 03:03:10.480
etc but is your investment compromised because suddenly chromecast gen 2 and chromecast audio

03:03:10.480 --> 03:03:16.320
devices weren't working this week even poor james from our team was affected he had to chop his

03:03:16.320 --> 03:03:22.640
veggies in silence google became aware of the issue on monday identified the cause on tuesday

03:03:22.640 --> 03:03:27.520
and by today had started rolling out updates to devices you can force the update by unplugging

03:03:27.520 --> 03:03:33.040
and plugging back in our discussion question is when will you children learn that owning things

03:03:33.040 --> 03:03:39.920
and storing locally is the only way yeah it's just not the convenient way um warner brothers dvds

03:03:39.920 --> 03:03:44.080
are apparently rotting but warner bros has acknowledged the problem and is working with

03:03:44.080 --> 03:03:48.880
consumers to replace defective disks although in some cases the affected titles are no longer in

03:03:48.880 --> 03:03:54.240
print or the rights have expired and in those cases warner is offering to exchange the defective

03:03:54.240 --> 03:04:00.000
disks for other titles of like value discussion question how would you like to trade that busted

03:04:00.000 --> 03:04:04.960
old copy of kasablanca for a shiny new earnest goes to camp that's about all i have to say about

03:04:04.960 --> 03:04:14.800
that i was a rapid fire topic and then our last major discussion topic i think is um after jeeps

03:04:14.800 --> 03:04:22.880
in car ads glitch indian company mehendra shows ads on the dashboard screen back in february the

03:04:22.880 --> 03:04:28.960
utopian reported on jeep vehicles displaying a full screen ad for flex care extended care premium

03:04:28.960 --> 03:04:34.080
plans appearing on some owners infotainment systems they posted a couple of reddit links from r slash

03:04:34.080 --> 03:04:39.440
a whole design with screenshots do you want to show the screenshots luke sure one of the

03:04:39.440 --> 03:04:43.760
posters noted that the message appears every time the car stops even if they hit the okay button

03:04:44.480 --> 03:04:50.160
eventually stilantis stilantis uh responded to inquiries with this official statement this was

03:04:50.240 --> 03:04:54.320
an in-vehicle message designed to inform jeep customers about mopar extended vehicle care

03:04:54.320 --> 03:04:59.840
options a temporary software glitch affected the ability to instantly opt out in a few isolated

03:04:59.840 --> 03:05:05.520
cases though instant opt out is the standard for all of our in-vehicle messages our team had already

03:05:05.520 --> 03:05:09.040
identified and corrected the error and we are following up directly with the customer to ensure

03:05:09.040 --> 03:05:16.080
the matter is fully resolved with that said ads being shown on car touchscreens has been a concern

03:05:16.080 --> 03:05:22.400
for a while rush lane reported back in november of 2021 that indian manufacturer mehendra had an

03:05:22.400 --> 03:05:28.400
option for advertisements in their xv 700 and if you fast forward to present day a redditor

03:05:28.400 --> 03:05:34.080
spartan underscore creed yt has posted a picture on r slash cars india showing their infotainment

03:05:34.080 --> 03:05:40.800
with an advertisement for scotch bright with an amazon echo dot saying al e x a give me cleaning

03:05:40.800 --> 03:05:46.160
tips and the scotch bright logo beside it luke do you want to show that reddit post yeah

03:05:48.960 --> 03:05:56.240
i um i use ways in my minivan where i don't have Android auto and when i stop sometimes

03:05:56.880 --> 03:06:05.840
it pops up ads it is ridiculously distracting because the human eye were predators the human

03:06:05.920 --> 03:06:12.000
eye is attracted to sudden movement and they know that so when they pop up a thing it is

03:06:12.000 --> 03:06:19.520
absolutely designed to draw your eye and while my phone on its little windshield mount is not

03:06:19.520 --> 03:06:25.120
that far off of where i'm supposed to be looking and it does pop up only when i am not moving

03:06:25.120 --> 03:06:31.360
it absolutely draws my eyes away from the road i hate it

03:06:32.080 --> 03:06:40.320
i would like this to be illegal this is one of those cases where i think you should be this is

03:06:40.320 --> 03:06:47.920
one of those cases where being just militantly anti-regulation is just actually stupid because

03:06:48.160 --> 03:06:51.520
if we have no regulation this is what we get

03:06:53.840 --> 03:06:58.480
laws exist in many cases for a reason

03:07:02.960 --> 03:07:08.080
i'm not saying that every regulation is good or that we have the right amount right now

03:07:08.640 --> 03:07:12.720
i'm just saying that if you are just a hundred percent opposed to any regulation

03:07:12.800 --> 03:07:19.200
you've actually not thought about it enough yeah i have

03:07:21.680 --> 03:07:26.640
you know i i've i've not super knowledgeable about cars but i've thought about it enough and

03:07:26.640 --> 03:07:31.520
i'm relatively certain it's just a battery and it'll be fine but uh my car didn't start today

03:07:33.120 --> 03:07:37.600
and oh no are you going to need a new car no i think it's just battery i'm pretty sure it's

03:07:37.600 --> 03:07:42.800
just battery i i did i i was like my my gut reaction was like no way it's just better i just

03:07:42.800 --> 03:07:46.560
put in a new battery and then i thought about it i was like i put in a new battery at the start of

03:07:46.560 --> 03:07:53.120
coven i did not just put in a new battery it's been a while i think it's i think it's fine it

03:07:53.120 --> 03:07:59.920
might be the battery let's check it after the show oh it's not here oh your car like did not start

03:07:59.920 --> 03:08:05.360
yeah oh you didn't jump it and then came to work think about well yeah no one was there

03:08:06.160 --> 03:08:12.320
nobody was there i had to take an uber do you want to ride home i might be down okay thank you um

03:08:13.280 --> 03:08:20.240
i'm also sick though so i don't know maybe i'll sit in the trunk yeah cool perfect i'm down i saw

03:08:20.240 --> 03:08:26.720
someone posting in chat about the apparently google timeline has been deleting people's histories

03:08:26.720 --> 03:08:32.000
even after agreeing to the new terms back in december so i was checking mine mine's still here i actually

03:08:32.480 --> 03:08:40.720
care an irrational amount about my google timeline it's like you know a history of all the places

03:08:40.720 --> 03:08:51.520
that i've gone which is a few places over the years um and it has like all my like work trips

03:08:51.520 --> 03:08:58.800
and stuff um i'd be i'd be super not stoked if my timeline was deleted i still i still have it

03:08:58.960 --> 03:09:09.840
um but yeah apparently some of them have been getting deleted that's a bummer because it's like

03:09:11.360 --> 03:09:17.360
it's kind of my like journal in a way andrew candy says yep my timeline history is completely gone

03:09:17.360 --> 03:09:24.320
i'm pissed yeah i don't i don't blame you uh hustler says i same here i started doing the

03:09:24.320 --> 03:09:29.760
self-hosted yeah okay apparently you can use google takeout to get it as an export and then

03:09:29.760 --> 03:09:35.520
import it back in oh that is so annoying how much oh man how much work was it for them to hold on to

03:09:35.520 --> 03:09:46.080
this like really that blows

03:09:53.040 --> 03:09:58.800
sort by most visited what are the places i go to most shopping then food and drink

03:09:58.800 --> 03:10:04.400
then hotels then attractions then sports then culture then airports yeah a lot of airports

03:10:05.920 --> 03:10:15.520
let's see how do i even find this timeline yeah is it in maps oh you go to google maps yeah

03:10:16.240 --> 03:10:20.880
and then you click on your profile picture okay and then you go to your timeline there it is

03:10:20.880 --> 03:10:24.960
i've done it before i just didn't remember okay where's your how do i find my ranking thing

03:10:25.360 --> 03:10:39.200
insights uh i think i had it under places places yep oh man i've apparently visited 185

03:10:39.200 --> 03:10:46.960
cities that's crazy that is that is pretty nuts uh remember too though that like um

03:10:47.120 --> 03:10:56.800
um you know san jose and uh santa clara and sunny vail all count his cities yeah siri and

03:10:56.800 --> 03:11:02.960
richmond and mancouver are technically cities like yesh or whatever yeah uh mine is shopping

03:11:02.960 --> 03:11:08.720
food and drink airport sports culture hotels attractions in that order a lot of airports

03:11:08.960 --> 03:11:15.200
airport king then yeah what the heck was i ever in calgary that must have just been a layover

03:11:17.040 --> 03:11:23.200
seven years ago yeah i've been to calgary international airport a shell gas station

03:11:23.760 --> 03:11:29.360
and white spot oh that's right that was from um the bank for workation i have been to calgary

03:11:30.320 --> 03:11:39.440
all right nice banff not on here well okay good try everyone evp said invest in a jumper pack

03:11:39.440 --> 03:11:45.600
save my butt several times honestly man i've thought about it like so many times i just never

03:11:45.600 --> 03:11:53.920
pulled the trigger which jumper pack yeah you can jump yourself basically oh for the car yeah i have

03:11:54.000 --> 03:11:58.720
one in my garage i don't keep it in my car because i'm an idiot yeah like i need it's

03:11:58.720 --> 03:12:05.920
i'm clear when i when i get a new battery this time i will clearly just also get one of those

03:12:05.920 --> 03:12:09.680
i like i've been aware of it i just i don't know why i haven't pulled the trigger on that

03:12:09.680 --> 03:12:16.000
i'll figure it out there's there's clearly a few actual like hey i work in a shop car people

03:12:16.000 --> 03:12:20.240
i've already gotten a good recommendation on a battery uh does someone have a good recommendation

03:12:20.240 --> 03:12:27.040
on a jumper pack uh can i just i'm doing that thing from earlier right i'm not i'm not i like

03:12:27.040 --> 03:12:30.960
car stuff i watch some car youtube stuff but i don't i'm not highly knowledgeable of it

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well they won't they cost money yes but see this it can also save money because i had to

03:12:38.960 --> 03:12:45.680
get an uber to get to work today and that sucked that was a that was a i did not like that expensive

03:12:45.680 --> 03:12:51.840
money whereas a jumper pack can bail me out of bad situations and save me money on ubers

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our final topic apple's added again they have delayed some of their ai powered personalized

03:12:59.920 --> 03:13:05.600
series features until later this year some reports say indefinitely and some people

03:13:05.600 --> 03:13:09.280
within apple's ai division have reportedly said the features might get cancelled outright

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apple has pulled the bella ramsey video advertising the feature and added a disclaimer to the iphone

03:13:15.120 --> 03:13:23.360
product pages people are mad and have accused apple of false advertising our discussion question is

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how are you i'm proud of you for making it this far on the land show doc i don't really have a

03:13:27.200 --> 03:13:34.080
discussion question i just hope you're having fun um love it thank you for that um here's my question

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yes we should be mad at apple for advertising features that they are delivering late or won't

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deliver at all um who tesla but when we think about the amount of money involved

03:13:51.280 --> 03:13:55.120
where where is this where is this outrage from the tesla user base

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seriously though almost got him

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oh i thought you were just hard ignoring me because you were like no i won't be baited

03:14:10.560 --> 03:14:19.040
and then you just dove in oh like wow it is it is mind blowing to me that it is not

03:14:20.400 --> 03:14:26.960
okay is tesla speed running going out of business right now maybe it kind of seems like it

03:14:28.000 --> 03:14:34.320
it kind of seems like it oh dude it's already lost all the gains since the election

03:14:34.800 --> 03:14:37.360
apparently today it's up almost four percent

03:14:38.880 --> 03:14:45.760
yeah but the one month is down 29 percent even a dead cat bounces if you throw it at the floor

03:14:45.760 --> 03:14:51.520
hard enough i noticed this a few days ago okay so the the scales are nuts and like i am not investment

03:14:51.520 --> 03:14:55.520
boy so i'm sure people are going to be like me you don't know it's tough and that's 100 percent

03:14:55.520 --> 03:15:01.920
you're right i don't but look at this one day okay it's up almost four percent five days yeah

03:15:01.920 --> 03:15:11.200
it's down one percent one month it's down 29 and a half percent six months it it's it's up 10 percent

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year to date down one year way up five years way up that's kind of obvious but it's just like yeah

03:15:20.560 --> 03:15:30.160
whoa the fact that it is um up 10 percent from six months ago is interesting to me

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did you uh did you see the tesla commercial on the front lawn of the white house sure did

03:15:35.680 --> 03:15:41.200
the whole it's all computer it's all computer it's just all computer

03:15:42.080 --> 03:15:48.240
shraft2k says Linus gets full credit for being an early elon hate adopter i don't hate him

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what i don't like is that he lies and misleads i don't like that he obviously thinks that he

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should not have to answer difficult questions when it comes to the safety of the vehicles or when it

03:16:05.520 --> 03:16:14.080
comes to um reporters investigating their quality or whatever the case may be um he thinks it is

03:16:14.080 --> 03:16:22.720
amusing to reply with a poop emoji to real questions that deserve answers these are things

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that reveal his character i don't respect those aspects of his character i don't hate him i literally

03:16:31.840 --> 03:16:37.280
bought a model why for my in-laws because they wanted one i have i have voted with my wallet

03:16:37.280 --> 03:16:42.880
that if the product is good enough clearly i'll buy it but what i have said for years and years

03:16:42.880 --> 03:16:50.000
and years is that he has revealed his character his characters that he thinks he is beyond being

03:16:50.000 --> 03:16:56.240
questioned his character is that he doesn't believe in the value of worker protections

03:16:57.920 --> 03:17:03.200
his character is that he believes that he can just say something and not be held to account

03:17:03.200 --> 03:17:09.280
for it that's his character we wouldn't be friends but i don't hate him

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it's also and i've said this on the show before it's also clear that

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you know what i'm not going to repeat my previous statement but what i'll say is this i run one

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company and i have three children that is very difficult to balance while being a quality father

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with one wife

03:17:40.480 --> 03:17:42.480
what if you had two wife

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what if i had four times as many children to imagine for a second that i am quality

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fathering 12 children across a multitude of wives is laughable because quality being a father

03:18:03.200 --> 03:18:09.360
is a ton of work and that work you can't just like do it intensely for a little bit and then

03:18:09.360 --> 03:18:15.520
like not do it for a while it's constant and all of the dads out there watching this are going to

03:18:15.520 --> 03:18:21.200
know that and one of the things that i've also talked about is that i think as men we are not

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always choosing our role models extremely wisely these days um and i i think at at the time back

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then i i talked about musk i talked about jobs steve jobs as people who achieved a lot of really

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great stuff but who i do not admire for the way that they treated their their partners their

03:18:44.480 --> 03:18:51.360
baby mamas and their children i do not think that those are admirable qualities i don't think that

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i don't think that makes you a good man i think being a good man means

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taking care of your progeny and doing it properly yeah so i don't respect it the great stuff side

03:19:03.600 --> 03:19:10.000
is is legit right like um yeah you can say he bought tesla you didn't invent it but yeah you

03:19:10.000 --> 03:19:17.040
could say he's the world's best diablo four player in doing so he popularized electric cars which

03:19:17.040 --> 03:19:24.800
you can see is good or bad uh the stuff with spacex is like genuinely insane um i don't even know

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the catch was like one of the most wild things i've probably ever seen in my entire life but

03:19:29.120 --> 03:19:37.040
then everything that lies just said is also legit so it sucks um one of the things that's

03:19:37.040 --> 03:19:45.280
been wild for me is the about face that a lot of people do um which is interesting where there's

03:19:45.280 --> 03:19:51.600
like dramatic changes so you can like you know watch someone or follow someone or read their

03:19:51.600 --> 03:19:59.440
stuff or whatever it is i don't know watch their tiki talkies um and then you know in five years

03:19:59.440 --> 03:20:04.320
maybe they're a completely different person it's like damn i don't know um

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but he's got to move on cares man there's so many examples of this uh tufa nook in youtube

03:20:13.120 --> 03:20:20.480
chats like who names their son x someone who doesn't respect that that will be an adult

03:20:20.480 --> 03:20:28.480
person someday who probably wants to have a name that isn't stupid and isn't a meme you know like

03:20:28.480 --> 03:20:34.240
treating kids like property that you could just like meme on is uh is so utterly disrespectful

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of another human life um one that you have a responsibility to to care for and respect um

03:20:42.480 --> 03:20:45.520
yes it's not cool um

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what i what that said i'm not saying that just x i think x is actually kind of cool um

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no there's another one that doesn't even like stupid or what arc angel something something

03:20:58.640 --> 03:21:04.800
something whatever which is wild um kind of sake laughing canadian says entirely unrelated to musk

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and his family system i think that's one way of putting it i dislike couples that have like eight

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plus kids there's zero chance that's healthy you literally cannot raise that many kids properly

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actually i don't necessarily believe that's true i was one of five and when you're all under one roof

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by the time you have an eighth child your oldest is like probably at least 15 and is

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contributing in a major way and i actually think that a hugely beneficial part of my

03:21:34.320 --> 03:21:43.600
upbringing experience was being old enough to remember babies a huge part of being able to

03:21:43.600 --> 03:21:51.440
be an effective parent is that i effectively did some of it when i was younger i i i cared for small

03:21:51.440 --> 03:21:58.880
children and um but obviously there weren't eight of us but you know we didn't quite need a van

03:21:58.880 --> 03:22:06.960
but we sure as heck filled a minivan and um there were great great things that came from the social

03:22:06.960 --> 03:22:14.240
interactions of living with people not just having a sibling and like living with your parents

03:22:14.960 --> 03:22:23.360
but having to get along and having to share and having to you know fight for things and learning

03:22:23.360 --> 03:22:30.560
when to yield um these were all really important aspects of growing up that i think are actually

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lost in very small families um to be clear i'm not saying having a small family is a wrong choice

03:22:36.720 --> 03:22:45.520
either i'm just saying that condemning someone for having um you know a very large family because

03:22:45.520 --> 03:22:51.360
you don't think they can raise the kids properly i think overlooks how much raising children will

03:22:51.360 --> 03:22:57.200
do of each other as long as there are sufficient checks and balances in place from the adult

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mentors and role models i'm not talking going full lord of the flies here

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just saying just saying try not to try not to judge try not to judge yeah unless you know

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the exact situation yeah

03:23:14.720 --> 03:23:16.560
moving on um yeah

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i know i think that's it for topics i was gonna say it's 10 are we moving on to merge messages

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yeah i guess so is it after dark time i think so i think it's after dark time

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oh yeah that one oh yeah i guess my background doesn't change not so dark

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there we go all right yeah i got a few for you here hey dll i know Linus has the bike paint

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project Dan has the hyabusa project but what is luke's ongoing side project

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Floatplane in the lab

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his second job to be honest yeah outside of that i have enough time to hopefully not be hated by

03:24:12.160 --> 03:24:20.240
my partner um take care of birds or at least a little bit um i mean if she forgets you are and

03:24:20.240 --> 03:24:26.240
what you look like and what you sound like she can't really hate you and try to uh take care of my

03:24:26.240 --> 03:24:33.120
physical self as much as possible but yeah i mean lately spent a lot of work i'm we're hiring hey

03:24:34.880 --> 03:24:43.360
we're hiring um help me help me help please yeah that's about it

03:24:45.760 --> 03:24:50.960
hey wancho with the new zeus GPU being floated what are your thoughts on how this will shake

03:24:50.960 --> 03:24:59.280
up the GPU market if it successfully launches i'll believe it when i see it i uh yeah i don't

03:24:59.920 --> 03:25:07.280
i i'm not putting a lot of stock in those claims i mean we saw uh what's it more threads the chinese

03:25:07.280 --> 03:25:12.400
GPU company that managed to build a functioning GPU which was more than i expected but like

03:25:13.520 --> 03:25:19.600
come on we all i think it's pretty clear from their efforts and from just what we know

03:25:19.600 --> 03:25:25.200
because we just know that um that building a GPU in hardware is not a hard part

03:25:26.160 --> 03:25:30.560
look at what Intel did with the ark they they built the art GPU there it is it's an art GPU

03:25:30.560 --> 03:25:37.680
but even with Intel's literal decades of experience on the software side it was still an enormous

03:25:37.680 --> 03:25:43.840
challenge to get that thing over the line and get it performing half decent so yeah sure whatever

03:25:44.560 --> 03:25:52.720
good luck guys hi Dan luke and Linus question for Linus i have the original carabiners on my backpack

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not really a question wait for Linus don't interrupt uh should i go ahead and replace them

03:25:58.960 --> 03:26:06.240
with uh even though they're okay it's up to you man um you could totally replace them or you

03:26:06.240 --> 03:26:11.120
could totally not i replaced the one on mine that broke so my backpack looks stupid i can't say i

03:26:11.120 --> 03:26:16.720
would recommend that but uh it's a it's a it's a i was going to say it's a free country but i have

03:26:16.720 --> 03:26:24.240
no idea where you're from but uh do whatever you want it's your backpack i i didn't talk about

03:26:24.240 --> 03:26:28.000
this a lot because i didn't want to dissuade people from doing it but i think it's been long

03:26:28.000 --> 03:26:33.840
enough now that i can talk about it i i use the backpack all the time and i had never had any

03:26:33.840 --> 03:26:42.560
problems with any of my carabiners until you're coming back from disney and one of the tsa ladies

03:26:42.560 --> 03:26:50.640
like cranked one of the carabiners for for no reason i i i don't know maybe she knew no there's no

03:26:50.640 --> 03:26:57.920
way but um just and like shoved her thumb through it and i was like what and i i kind of like grabbed

03:26:57.920 --> 03:27:03.200
it and pushed it back and it's fine luckily but i i was like certain it was just gonna get snapped

03:27:03.200 --> 03:27:09.360
right off um and i i tested it a bunch of times it seems okay but i think i was lucky more than

03:27:09.360 --> 03:27:15.520
anything it was originally like completely past the post like it was it was out i was just it was

03:27:15.520 --> 03:27:21.280
probably one or two millimeters further and it would have been permanently broken um but yeah

03:27:23.040 --> 03:27:25.520
outside of that close call they've all been fine

03:27:26.400 --> 03:27:35.440
i Linus i recently cleared f of seven for the first time and boy it has a lot of busted exploits

03:27:35.440 --> 03:27:40.240
do you have a particular exploit or trick for an older final fantasy or other game you like to

03:27:40.240 --> 03:27:51.600
take advantage of um i don't actually love taking advantage of exploits because i like to i like to

03:27:51.600 --> 03:28:02.000
play the game kind of the way that the i use the term good faith a lot but it's kind of like uh it

03:28:02.000 --> 03:28:08.400
kind of is like a a catch all term for how i like to engage with things and how i like to be engaged

03:28:08.400 --> 03:28:16.080
with so i like to play a game at least the first time around you know obviously it's fun to find

03:28:16.080 --> 03:28:21.520
broken builds or whatever right but i like to play a game the way that the developer kind of

03:28:21.520 --> 03:28:27.200
intended for it to be played through what they thought was supposed to be fun um

03:28:31.200 --> 03:28:37.360
so i tend to i tend to try to not look up too much i tend to rely only on like the first

03:28:37.360 --> 03:28:42.800
party resources that i was supposed to have if i you know bought the game and i got the manual or i

03:28:43.360 --> 03:28:47.920
i you know read through the the store page and played the tutorial or whatever else and i try not

03:28:47.920 --> 03:28:55.040
to look too hard for things that are completely broken but if there was one that i would say would

03:28:55.040 --> 03:29:00.640
be kind of fun to exploit broken stuff in i guess it would probably be like final fantasy tactics

03:29:00.640 --> 03:29:06.960
because it can be pretty it can be pretty fun to build you know god characters that like can't be

03:29:06.960 --> 03:29:13.120
hit and stuff like that but it also it also takes the challenge out like i like i like

03:29:14.320 --> 03:29:18.480
a big part of gaming for me is feeling like i overcame a challenge otherwise

03:29:20.400 --> 03:29:28.080
what am i even what am i even doing here um i don't mind it as much in like tape to tape

03:29:28.080 --> 03:29:32.240
luke i was telling you i'm saving a run that i'm in the middle of for the next time we can play

03:29:32.240 --> 03:29:39.120
together because wow is it ever broken but what's cool about that is it's just like this self-contained

03:29:39.120 --> 03:29:44.720
one hour run whereas like if i'm breaking a game like final fantasy tactics that's like you know

03:29:44.720 --> 03:29:52.560
30 plus hours to do a playthrough i'm i'm just i'm removing the fun challenge that will be the final

03:29:52.560 --> 03:29:58.240
boss and why am i even playing the rest of it i should just watch the cutscenes on youtube right

03:29:58.240 --> 03:30:03.360
like it just it just feels kind of pointless to me but i'm not you know if someone else is

03:30:03.360 --> 03:30:08.000
if someone else enjoys a different element at that game that's totally totally for them

03:30:09.360 --> 03:30:11.360
but that it's not what i enjoy

03:30:13.680 --> 03:30:22.880
yeah i dlo i apparently made a mistake ordering a 4 by 24 Gigabyte kit of 8000 megatransfer RAM on

03:30:22.880 --> 03:30:29.040
my new am5 board as it can only reach 5600 megatransfer per second stable what's the deal

03:30:29.040 --> 03:30:36.080
with this generation does everyone just buy two yeah everyone just buys two sticks um you're lucky

03:30:36.080 --> 03:30:43.120
to get 56 that's pretty good my preschool age daughter is getting into gaming and just beat

03:30:43.120 --> 03:30:48.720
astro bot do you have any recommendations for games that uh games like that for her to try next

03:30:48.720 --> 03:30:55.200
that involve problem solving i had never even heard of astro bot it's like the ps5

03:30:57.440 --> 03:31:03.840
like a launch title you're like playing the playstation mascot i think it's like neck but people

03:31:03.840 --> 03:31:10.720
love it it's very highly oh interesting wow five five stars i think it won like game of the year

03:31:11.680 --> 03:31:18.320
or something i have no idea i mean if you're must play if they're playing like it was game really

03:31:19.200 --> 03:31:24.640
adult suitable games i don't mean like an adult game i just mean a game that like adults would

03:31:24.640 --> 03:31:28.560
enjoy well then they could play like any fun platform or game i actually enjoyed the crap out

03:31:28.560 --> 03:31:32.880
of lucky stale even though it was just like supposed to be like a crappy showcase title i

03:31:32.880 --> 03:31:40.400
thought um you can also give her some retro games um you know some old fashioned super mario world

03:31:40.400 --> 03:31:47.760
my kids loved it in spite of how old it was looking at the game but i've never played astro

03:31:47.760 --> 03:31:52.320
bot and maybe i'm just totally wrong here but looking at some of the gameplay like they might

03:31:52.320 --> 03:32:00.240
like some of the lego games um ha i just find them man are they ever unchallenging really

03:32:00.240 --> 03:32:04.400
unchallenging for preschool that's fine lego is apparently bringing their game development in

03:32:04.400 --> 03:32:10.560
house even if it like hurts profit i guess they want to control the quality a little bit i've

03:32:10.560 --> 03:32:17.360
only tried a couple of them but they seemed very mediocre yeah i tried one and was like i guess

03:32:17.360 --> 03:32:23.440
i'm not interested in any of these which if it's like a little kid game sure maybe i guess but so

03:32:23.440 --> 03:32:32.800
was super mario gross so i don't know doesn't have to be that way and last one i got for you here

03:32:32.800 --> 03:32:38.080
hey riley how you doing hi lld i just bought a physical copy of bouldersgate for three from

03:32:38.080 --> 03:32:43.840
japan mr luke as a man of culture yourself do you think the censorship will heavily affect the

03:32:43.840 --> 03:32:50.880
experience with the game um uh will i be missing out sorry which game bouldersgate three bouldersgate

03:32:50.880 --> 03:33:00.720
three the censorship oh as a man of culture no how censored is the game in japan it's always

03:33:00.720 --> 03:33:08.240
fun to me japan's are funny to me japan's like sort of schizophrenic approach to adult content

03:33:08.880 --> 03:33:16.000
like one day they are you just gotta put a little line over it yeah and then the next day

03:33:16.000 --> 03:33:22.000
it's just like yeah this is the most outlandish like weirdo stuff ever and i i man i don't i don't

03:33:22.000 --> 03:33:29.600
know man are they just censoring like um like nudie scenes or are they doing like gore and

03:33:29.600 --> 03:33:34.160
violent stuff i doubt gore and violence right it's probably just nude yeah then i don't know whatever

03:33:35.040 --> 03:33:43.360
it's fine japan's there's a setting in the game for a reason already to do that and like i'm sure a

03:33:43.360 --> 03:33:49.280
lot of people do that it's probably just like checked on by default people streamed the hack out of

03:33:49.280 --> 03:33:58.720
that game they probably had that stuff turned off yeah yeah yeah it's it's fine all right we'll

03:33:58.720 --> 03:34:06.000
enjoy it it's a fantastic game was that it for wancho today yeah all right well then i guess

03:34:06.000 --> 03:34:09.680
we'll see you again next week same bad time same bad channel bye

03:34:10.400 --> 03:34:19.040
bye like if someone linked an escapist magazine article called we were spartans that was

03:34:19.040 --> 03:34:25.440
published in 2011 that is like perfectly encapsulates how online gaming kill plans and why that's

03:34:25.440 --> 03:34:33.920
bad oh it's a good read where is this okay maybe uh text me i can't see it okay

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ok

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right now so perfect
