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at this point, so whatever weird fungus is fungi we have growing on our bodies, it doesn't

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really matter. Yeah, we just share it. There's literally no woman who it will matter to other than my wife who is stuck with me

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now. I mean, where else is she going to get all this?

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Hey, hey, hey, I'm dollar giant quality.

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Yeah. Dollar giant quality, Dalarama, please.

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So rude. How could you? How could you, Dan?

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Dan, I swear, I swear, I swear.

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And now I can't bleep it. No.

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I swear. We should do like manual bleeping.

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Ah! Why? Okay.

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Okay. Oh, no, yeah. Instead of poking this, I'll just poke you.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Okay.

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Ready? Three, two, one. Ah!

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Yeah, that works great. Did it work? Yeah.

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I'm not sure. We'll have to, oh, someone went into cardiac arrest, so that's fine.

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I mean, the swearing won't bother them at that point. The least of their concerns.

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That's true. Stream deck functions again.

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What the f*** did you just say to me? Did you just f***ing say that the f***ing stream deck f***ing functions?

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I was, that was a joke. Oh, no.

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Pretty quick.

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Let's see. Yeah. I think that was fine.

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It's probably fine. I'm not going to check again. Yeah, that's what you want during a live broadcast is the company that makes live broadcast

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equipment to have their software crash and then the buttons don't work.

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Yeah. That's great. Man, Corsair has become like kind of a weird company.

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Like they used to be like, yeah, we make high performance memory and now like, I don't

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know, mic arms. Everything.

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Yeah. It's like. I mean, they make old computers now.

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Well, they, they got to the point where they. Don't they make desks? Yeah.

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So they're really trying to take over literally everything. Not to the point where they had so much market share in the verticals that they did participate

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in. The only way to grow. Yeah.

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Power supplies, memory. Literally the only way to grow unless you could like find parents and like beat them

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up and make them buy gaming PCs for their kids.

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Like, right? Like other than that, you have to just, you have to sell more and more of the ecosystem.

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Now, how's their stock doing? Remember they went public.

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What a weird company to invest in. Corsair's stock.

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Yeah. So they have whole computers, peripherals.

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Are you doing there, buddy?

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Oh. Yeah. This was a good time to sell.

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Was that 2020-ish? 2020. Yeah.

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Yep. Makes sense. Yep.

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That COVID action. So that was probably like a fake rise just because of COVID and what they're at now is

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probably. Well, they also like went IPO here and then like, oh, like doing really good for a bit and then

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everyone realized that like selling gaming peripherals is, you know, kind of like, there's

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some certain companies that just probably shouldn't go public.

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Like, did you know that Swift tech was a publicly traded company?

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That's odd. Like you remember Swift tech, right? Like Waterblock maker, like they were public.

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They were like, I forget what their stock was worth, like four cents or something like

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just, but even like, why don't I go public?

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Let's go public. You want to go public? No.

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I like doing it in public. Hey, you said remember Swift tech?

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So I decided to look into it and yeah, their website's still out. Oh, yes.

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Totally still up. The copyright's 2019 and it's not secure. Yeah.

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No, no, no. Go to, uh, go to like the online store. I don't think any of it's in stock.

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It's all like old. Like the apogee SKF, dude, brother, that came out like eight, nine years ago or something.

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That's their like skived copper heatsink or a cold plate design.

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That's fricking ancient. Yeah. Out of stock.

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Like Iris RGB software, dude, there's, that's probably for Windows Vista.

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Like I don't even know what the point of the site still being online is.

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That's what I was going to ask. Oh, wait. Is this in stock?

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What? Public LTT, no dividends and infinite hype.

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You know what? I'm into it. You guys know at least some of you would invest in the stock just for the memes.

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You know, you would don't even deny it.

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I know you would. Why?

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Dan, they would, wouldn't they? Why have an LTT stock when you could have Linus Coen tied to a percentage of the company?

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Dude.

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What would be the legal framework around that? I'm genuinely trying to figure that out.

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I don't think that works. Not.

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Can you have blockchain stock? I mean, I'm sure you could treat it.

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Like if you did a dividend, yeah, but you'd basically have to count on the honor system.

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Yeah. You'd have to count on me not to rug pull you, which come on.

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I mean, we all know, like, hold on, here's the button.

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Up here. Right? Like I would, like I, I can't, I couldn't help myself.

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I just all of you. Honestly, every time, honestly, every time he shows up to the show set, there's a, there's

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a rug down here and he just starts, yeah, there's, there's no rug left on his side.

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Yeah. It's all over here. He's done that thing where like it's like one inch every week, he just slowly.

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But I pull it so quick that the table doesn't move. That's why you, that's how you never notice.

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Yeah. You never notice. Yeah.

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Stock chain. Oh, I actually love it. That's brilliant.

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That's pretty good. The Wolfenstein, consider yourself banned from chat. You never existed.

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Yeah. That was my idea. Boom.

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Yeah. Wait, what the? What just happened?

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There, that should work.

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What did we just show them? Was it fine? I didn't catch it.

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Oh yeah. That was just the, the thumbnail face insert. Okay.

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Now I have my dumb mug back. Yeah.

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Yeah. You could, you could auto system payout dividends.

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Or I could just not. I could just be upfront with them that there are no dividends.

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There's no dividends. You just get, it's, it's essentially an NFT of a stock certificate.

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That's great. Holy crap. That's amazing.

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Oh. Could you, like, okay, so like, you know how I think it's tethered, I'm not good with

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coins. Tether and so on and stuff. Where it's tied to USD.

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Yeah. Which, you know, I wouldn't buy a bunch of tether right now.

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Dude, the, dude. Oh, it's been falling. The USD has been going goodbye by over the last little while, which is, I always, I've

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said this before, is great for my net worth and terrible for my income.

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It's kind of interesting because it's not lower than it was in like 2024 yet.

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Well, it depends. You can't just compare it against CAD.

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So against an entire basket of foreign currencies, the USD is taking an absolute pummeling right

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now. About Bulgarian Lev. Well, that I don't, well, there you go.

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Yeah. What about Brazilian real? Oh, not as bad.

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Well, let's look at a broader scale. It's like five years. Belovian Boliviano.

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They're not doing so good.

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Yeah. Let's look somewhere else. What should I do?

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Australian. Australian dollars. We have here.

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Hold on. The other graphs. Got to fix that.

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There you go. Now read it. Oh, wow.

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Yeah. This is very, very revealing once you correctly orientate.

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Japanese yen is another good one to look against.

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Yeah. USD is just on a, it's on a slide.

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There it is. Whoa.

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Yeah. I mean, the scale of these graphs makes it really hard to compare.

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Yeah. Because like doing one month is like, it looks like that.

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So like graphs should, and graphs should have like zero on their axes probably.

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Yeah. Usually. That's fair.

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I also would love more granularity than one day, five day, one month, one year.

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Like that's such a huge jump.

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I don't know if you can do a custom time period with that one.

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I'm sure you can on things that aren't literally just Google search.

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That's got to be a thing, PK7. An extension that converts any mention of Australian dollar to dollar redo.

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It has to be a thing. There's absolutely no way that's not a thing.

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Yeah.

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Good. That's true. Curious bread.

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Yeah. That is the one time I care about Yahoo.

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Apparently. I think with the new Chrome change, it probably broke it, but yeah, apparently it was a thing.

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That's amazing. Australian dollars to true currency dollar reduce.

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Someone did it.

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Should we maybe do a podcast? No.

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This is the podcast. Yeah.

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We technically are doing a podcast. You want to go home now?

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No. No. No, I like, I like podcast.

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Yeah. We can. We can go.

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I like podcast. I like the podcast. I invested in the podcast.

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Podcast NFT. Five bucks. Final offer.

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You know what you could do?

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You could sell like one inch squares of the top of this.

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We could sell post-it notes that you put in the backdrop.

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You could make it like, what is that Reddit thing that was cool and then they've like

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never really recaptured that flame? Yeah. You could make r slash place, but it's the top of this table.

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It's like a million dollar website. I like it. Sounds like a million dollar website.

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Oh, okay. No, actually, this is something we should do at some point.

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We should make our table for the WAN Show a TV and then yeah, we should let the people

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merge message to like, yeah, like we should actually make money on it.

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You'd have to moderate it. That's actually brilliant. No, we wouldn't.

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We could manually. It's not what I did. No, we could manually moderate it.

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We could have vinyl stickers. Dbrand could sponsor the censorship of the table.

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What if somebody puts up like genuinely not okay stuff?

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Then we will censor it. What if CP shows up on the screen?

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Well, no, because I think we should make it like place where you draw.

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So you wouldn't be able to just upload an image. You'd have to draw it, which is like, it's stupid and gross, but it's not illegal, I

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don't think. Actually, I don't know.

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I don't know either. I don't know. That anime stuff, they just say that they're like 5,000 years old or whatever.

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Yeah, I'm sure we could figure it out. I'm sure we could figure it out.

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In general, we could have a tape delay. I think it's pretty funny. Yeah, we could have a tape delay, but I think that would, that would be a new sort of merge

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message. Oh man, my brain just keeps going into ways that this is a bad idea.

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Yeah, but I mean, you gotta, that's no fun.

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Don't be unfun. You're being unfun right now.

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What would you do with?

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I don't know, nothing, I guess. Who cares? Just leave it up?

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Yeah. I mean, we could also draw on it, so we could just put like a Hitler stash on it.

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We have to order things from LZD store to like overwrite.

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No, we'd have to come up with some fun way for us to earn edits.

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We'd have to like do something. I feel like this makes sense. I feel like we'd have to complete a challenge of some sort.

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I don't know. This, it sounds like, it sounds like a fun- They're solvable.

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The problems are solvable. Yeah, it's all solvable. It's all solvable.

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This sounds like a fun shtick we could do for a while. Ah, what else was I going to say?

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Oh yeah, right, right, right, right, right. And then because like profiting off of gambling is such a thing now, in addition to our coin,

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we'd want to make it so people can also, we don't want to have our own gambling platform

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where people can gamble indirectly on the coin by gambling on whether it will go like up

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or down so they could like short the coin and stuff.

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But we'd take a commission on all of the action. Of course.

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Of course. Very good. Yeah.

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Nice. So how does the drawing, do you get like some amount of seconds of time when you make a

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purchase to draw? Oh, that'd be interesting. Because how does the drawing work?

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I mean, if we wanted to go- I never did our place, so I don't know how it functioned.

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I think you just would draw. You get one pixel, you can place one pixel, one color, and then there's a time delay.

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That's it? That's what place was. Yeah.

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Oh, yeah. Yeah, we'd have to do more than that. No, we'd have to give people, yeah, more than one pixel.

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We still need that scam shirt, says Crystal. One dollar equals one pixel, so it scales with your cart value.

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Yeah. Oh, that could work. That actually kind of makes a lot of sense.

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That could work. Oh, that's crazy. You're crazy.

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No, no, no, no, that's from chat. I know, I know. You're chat, you're crazy.

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That was the million dollar website, I think, right? You could buy one pixel for one dollar and then he sold it as advertising space.

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I think it's still up. I can't remember. Shut up.

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Is that really a thing? I think it's called the million dollar website. I never understood why anyone cared about this.

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The million dollar homepage is a website conceived in 2005 by Alex2.

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Yeah, it was a thing. The thing that I didn't understand was that people actually did buy in on it.

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You can go the actual website if you want. Oh, it's still a thing? Yeah, it's milliondollarhomepage.com.

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It's all just links.

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Discover Cuba, hosting reviews, I mean, no, this has got to be, yeah, there you go.

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I mean, it's so old. Yeah.

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Wasn't there a Coca-Cola in here at one point? I don't remember.

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Go G Juice. No risk. Be healthy.

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Make money. What could go wrong? Man boobs?

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Where's man boobs? There's definitely stuff on here that's...

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You should probably leave. Don't get flashed off the road.

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Get protection now. Where'd the man boobs go? I want to see the man boobs.

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Where is it? Man boobs. We're fat and we're proud.

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Send money. No reason. Okay.

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Send moneynoreason.com.

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Apparently not enough money was sent. You should have sent more money.

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Tom Corvin. I don't know who Tom Corvin is.

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We're only live on Floatplane right now, right?

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And Twitch and Facebook and TikTok.

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Oh, look, I can find singles in my area.

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This isn't cheese.

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That's okay. That's okay. I'm also clenching, Luke.

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Lock down his computer now.

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All right. Should we do this thing?

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Sure. Well, how do we have a day off in the middle of the week and it's still like...

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How does the way to make it feel like the longest week in the world? Freaking exhausted. Because you have a one day week and then you have another week.

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That's what it feels like. Our policy used to be that if we had weird random stats in the middle of the week, we'd

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move them to the Monday so that we could get a long weekend.

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And apparently enough people complained that we stopped doing that.

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And now it's just dumb. That's crazy. I hate it when stuff like that happens.

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How did that happen? What?

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Yeah, that used to be at worst. I thought that's how it was supposed to work.

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Because I know if we have Fridays, we move them to Mondays.

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That's crazy. Like how could we not want the long weekend?

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Yeah, that was brutal.

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I don't get it. This is why we're not allowed to have nice inks.

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Wow. Crystal says fix it then. I believe it or not, I am not a f*** tater.

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I do overrule the will of the people sometimes.

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But especially these days, it really does not happen very much.

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Like we try to reach a consensus in most things.

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And this is one of those things where the cost of the company is identical.

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So it's like if you guys prefer to have a Tuesday off compared to a long weekend, I guess.

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I don't know. I mean, if that's what people want.

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Yeah, who am I to tell them no. No.

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I don't care what the people want. I mean, you don't need to care.

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Karen does. Dang. You don't.

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Okay, let's do this thing.

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Okay. Oh, I guess you're waiting for me to do it.

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Yeah. Balls are in your hand or whatever the saying is.

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Court. It's court. My mistake.

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All right. Resuming the selected now. Doing stuff on Canada Day is pretty nice.

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Yeah.

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Doing stuff on a long weekend is pretty nice. Yeah.

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There are like Canada Day specific events.

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I don't even. Oh, yeah. Right.

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Right. The whole, um, how is this so controversy?

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Stop killing games. Controversial. Yeah.

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You know, how is this so controversy? Stop killing games.

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Well, we'll get to that. But stop killing games is a thing.

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Maybe or maybe it won't be or maybe it is.

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What? What an intro to a topic.

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It's not an intro to a topic. It's an intro to the show.

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Uh, right. We'd hate to misrepresent this and have people who are just tuning in for the first time

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think that this is a hinged show. Uh-huh.

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Yes. Correct. No hinges.

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Speaking of hinged Microsoft ads. I'm removing this. Oh.

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My God.

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Why does it say free? It's definitely not free, isn't it?

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You're free. What? We'll talk about that later.

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Cloudflare is changing the rules of the internet.

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Changing the rules. For the better. That's right.

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Are they changing rule 34? Probably not.

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And of course our rap partner, D brand, our chair partner, secret lab and Dell already

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got a shout out. They had enough. They did.

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They did. Why are you leaning? I was showing the logo.

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Stop killing games. You were leading the wrong way. So I was trying to do it right.

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Stop killing games. Did it. Stop now.

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Unless what you want to stop is stop killing games.

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You sound like a town crier. I am the crier.

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I was on two and a half men, you know.

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My name's John. What?

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It's the actor's name. John Crier.

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Oh, wow. All right. Stop killing games.

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The initiative to save games from dying at the hands of their makers because usually developers

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stop making money on it and they're like, hmm, we architected this to only work if our

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servers are online and now they're not. So I guess it's too bad.

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See you later. It has crossed the one million signatures it needed to get the attention of the EU commission,

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which gives it a much higher chance to pass a law which could force developers to sunset

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their games properly. Now Luke and I have given our thoughts on what proper sunsetting of games would look

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like numerous times. And some really good examples. We've also given some examples of how in some cases it might not actually work that great.

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It could be quite challenging whether it's around third party licensing of say, for example,

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music or other media that's included in the game or whether it's around IP that is used

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across multiple products that could potentially harm the security of those other products.

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There are potential reasons that just putting out the source code of a particular game or

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putting the servers into the hands of the players might be really challenging.

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But that's what stop killing games is seeking to change, is to make them architect these

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games from the ground up to comply with their obligation to make the game available after

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they no longer wish to support it, whether that is in the hands of another entity or

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the gamers themselves. Anyway, the petition is not over.

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They want as many signatures as possible because the more signatures they get, the better they

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can show interest in the movement. And it will also help in case some signatures are invalid for whatever reason, given that

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this has gotten global attention. I don't doubt that a significant portion of those one million signatures are probably

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not from the EU. Yeah, there's a big push for questioning.

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Not only may they not be from the EU, but there's some questioning of if it was like

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bodied to go higher with the intention of hoping that people would slow down once it

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passed its mark. So there's a lot of questions going on.

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In other news, because they have no sense of, I don't know, irony, EA has announced that

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Anthem's servers will be shutting down on January 12th, 2026, and that the game will

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be removed from EA Play on August 15th, 2025.

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Man, there was some other terrible games industry news, but I guess none of it had to do with

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games that were actually released. You see Microsoft killed a whole bunch of jobs again.

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No, I didn't. Yeah, including some games that apparently were so promising that Microsoft executives

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had to have the controllers taken out of their hands when they were playtesting it.

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And now it's dead. Anyway, so if you're from the EU, head over to stopkillinggames.com and sign the petition,

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because while this only affects the EU ruling, it is quite possible, nay, probable, that

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it will have a larger impact outside of the EU as well, because if they already have to

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do all of the work to architect their game so that it could be tied up into a nice little

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bow and then hand it off once they no longer feel like supporting it, then I pretty much

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guarantee you that that would have a positive impact for players in other countries as well.

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Other continents, excuse me, sorry, sorry, EU is not a country.

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There's also a UK-specific version of the petition on the same site.

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If you scroll down a bit, this has also reached the 100,000 signatures needed, but couldn't

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always use more. So our discussion question here is, can you brainstorm the ideal sunsetting plan that

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developers could do to keep games alive forever? Is it leaving their servers up and running?

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Is it making it open source? What's the ideal? And I know my answer, but I want to hear your answer.

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Yeah, I don't think leaving their servers up forever is going to function to be, it's

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not going to... No, no, that's not going to work. You can't just legislate companies losing money because eventually...

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Incident maintenance on things that are losing money. Yeah, that's not going to work, but that doesn't mean that this is impossible or an unreasonable

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expectation for products that we buy, right?

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These aren't products that are even sold to us necessarily as a subscription service.

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I mean, they treat them like one, but these are products that in many cases we buy as

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like a one-time transaction and you can bury terms in your end user license agreement that

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make it so that you're only obligated to leave it up as long as you feel like it.

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But I think there is a certain expectation that when I give you a one-time payment for

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something, say one lime, that that is now your lime, and that I don't have a remote

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lime kill switch that will just take your lime and get it out of here, right?

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Like that is not what our expectation would be, I think, under normal circumstances.

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I have pirated the lime. Nice, open source lime, I like it.

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I'll just put that back. You whacked the TV.

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Well, it still looks like it works fine. You'll never prove it.

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The camera didn't see anything.

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Yeah, I don't know.

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It's a little tough for some games.

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I don't necessarily think it's completely unsolvable because the stance that we've had,

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I don't know if this perfectly, honestly, I'm not super on top of the stop killing

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game stuff, so I don't know if this perfectly aligns with theirs, but the stance that we've

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had is that you should at least give the community a chance to do it.

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Yeah, I'd say my ideal execution in this is Forged Alliance Forever.

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Supreme Commander was a super cool game that I really enjoyed.

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I think, I forget who went down first, gas powered games or THQ, but ultimately what

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happened is there was some complexity around any kind of transfer of the IP.

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There was some drama that went down around, I think it was, was it gas powered games that

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went down first? You know what? I really don't remember, so it doesn't matter.

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The point is either the publisher or the developer went bye-bye and what they ultimately

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arrived on was leaving the matchmaking and custom map hosting and community chat and

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all of these features, leaving them in the hands of the community that wanted to maintain

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the game and be stewards of the game, meaning that even though it has been like 10 plus years

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now since that game was no longer actively supported by the developer, you can still

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play it online. You can play custom maps. There's all kinds of cool mods that you can apply, so they have their own mod workshop

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that's built within the FA Forever, so Forged Alliance was the expansion to Supreme Commander.

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So it's Forged Alliance Forever. So within the Forged Alliance Forever launcher, it handles automatic updates, it's a little

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janky. Sure. But in a way that's honestly like, I'm completely fine.

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It's kind of cool. It reminds me of old style computing.

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But it's alive. It's freaking alive and the best part is the IP holders still get to profit from it.

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So you have to buy. They've worked out a system where you have to authenticate with the Forged Alliance Forever

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server that you have to give it access to your Steam library and prove that you own

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a copy of Supreme Commander or Forged Alliance.

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Also think it's fine. Which I think is totally fine. I mean...

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If the company is willing to hand all these reins over in the way that they did, then

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I think it's okay. Ideally, they put it at a price that's like not.

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Yeah, and I think it's pretty reasonable these days. But the point is just that this is a way that the players continue to win by being allowed

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to play the game and the publisher and or developer, depending on whatever their revenue

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split looks like, gets to continue to win by occasionally selling the game here and there.

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That's freaking awesome. You can buy it for $2.79 right now.

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That is two US dollars. It's a great game.

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It actually has legitimately a pretty decent campaign.

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Like it's an RTS campaign. So you know how it goes. You do each level and you unlock some more of the tech tree and you kill all the bad

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guys or whatever. And I would say that the online can be a little daunting to get into because you'll finish

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that campaign and think you're a supreme commander god.

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And then you'll jump in online and get absolutely curbstombed.

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It's the skill ramp is insane.

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But it has a really great built-in replay function that allows you to watch back at

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any speed you want and like it's really quick to go through replays.

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People from my experience have been very friendly and willing to discuss strategy.

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So once you get a handle on some of the strats, it's it's it's it's pretty fun if you if you

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like a deep if you like a deep RTS and it has the best the best top down interface that

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has ever existed for a game. I will stand behind that.

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The strategic zoom is outstanding.

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It's very easy to get around the map. With a mouse wheel, you basically you don't you don't move the cursor to the edge of the

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screen and pan. That's like dinosaur technology.

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So you just use the mouse wheel and kind of like zooming in on an image in like an image

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editor. You just kind of like zoom out and then zoom in.

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It's like and then you can actually turn so you can turn your viewport into like a super

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zoomed in look at what something is doing. You can like you could go to one of your factories and see the unit that's being like 3D printed

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on the bed and then you can zoom all the way out.

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So your whole monitor is just a big mini map like a like a you know a not mini map but

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you know anyway the point is there's icons for little just little icons representing

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all the units and you can see like a whole strategic view of the entire battlefield.

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It even supports multi monitor it did back in the day anyway.

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So you could have like your your giant mini map on one monitor and then your gameplay

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view on on another monitor was like freaking awesome.

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Maxi map says when bingo chronified yeah exactly exactly apparently factorial has something

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similar as well strategic zoom dude huge innovation in that game absolutely love it.

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So that's my that's kind of the ideal to me is like put put put the ability to keep running

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it in the hands of the community and if the community doesn't care then that's

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fine all right all right and some games will still die.

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I would prefer the things required to be put somewhere some external repository that doesn't

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cost to maintain like a public github or something like that I don't know but like put it somewhere.

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I don't know if this makes any sense internet archive it something do do something so that

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you never have to look at it again because honestly if the company doesn't ever want

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to look at it again I think that's completely fine also don't take it back if you have given

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it up to the community and then they find some huge success with it it's theirs yeah

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but but there's an opportunity there as well because that keeps the IP alive it keeps it

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learn what they did that worked really well yeah and then do a sequel yeah it's still

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your IP yeah yeah I what other parts of it I know like an argument that I've heard is

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like oh what about the music licensing it's like okay yeah that can be a thing take the

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music out I mean I think at that point you could even potentially task the community

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with doing that you could be like here's all the stuff that's not licensed like we really

00:34:39.380 --> 00:34:44.140
realistically you know we're insolvent now you know like we're not we don't have the we

00:34:44.140 --> 00:34:50.180
don't have the means to do anything with this anymore but yeah here's the documentation

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you guys are responsible for your own legal minefield you have to remove any licensed music

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replace it with something else I'm okay with that I don't know how that necessarily works

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legally but it seems fine to me I don't think you can legislate companies working on something

00:35:03.780 --> 00:35:12.420
in perpetuity yeah you can't do that yeah but what you can do is you can create an expectation

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that they will hand over in some semblance of working order the materials that are needed to

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continue the work if there is someone who is willing to take it on

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I don't think they can even hand over the music it needs to be removed beforehand that's easy to do and besides I don't think I don't even know I don't even know if I

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I don't even know if I would buy that because realistically the the ownership the right to

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use music comes down to licensing anyway like I could hand you a cd and that wouldn't be a

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license to include it in a game so like if if I handed you a file pack I am not handing you a

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license to use it in a game I'm just like it's it's one zero distributing the music you are

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but you're not legal people we're not going to figure this out yeah no but but you're

00:36:08.900 --> 00:36:15.060
distributing it with a set of terms that prohibit actually using it for anything yeah

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like I don't know that's that's a that's a tough question that's for the legal people to figure

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out and I you know appreciate their hard work but I my point doesn't change that I don't think

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this is insurmountable our other question is I know you guys are boomers and play old games

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but are there any games that have been shut down that have impacted your social circle I already

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know Luke's answer oh I probably do yeah just when wow went to shit yeah like that's a that's an

00:36:44.020 --> 00:36:48.820
even more interesting question because that's a version of a game that is still running yeah

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that's a that's a tougher one that gets really tough um I don't think there's any recourse there

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the community forced that too you mean bringing back wow classic yeah but then didn't wow classic

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like evolve and then is like not wow classic anymore yeah no so no what I mean is like

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nostalgia's back in the day and nostalgia's is the most well-known one but there's a ton of

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private servers for wow sure not just nostalgia's and there still are private servers for wow

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ton many of them the community forced that they like rebuilt boss mechanics and stuff

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that they didn't have because they had to build like the server side of it and it's

00:37:25.620 --> 00:37:31.620
honestly extremely impressive that was just out of like an immense amount of community

00:37:33.860 --> 00:37:38.340
attention I guess but there is yeah there's still the original classic wow branch that

00:37:38.340 --> 00:37:44.260
Blizzard made but it's still going and it's way past classic wow now and then there's like some

00:37:44.260 --> 00:37:49.060
other versions I don't know all of them there's a hardcore one where if you die your character's

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done and there's one I think called season of mastery where they like change a bunch of stuff

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I don't I don't know if many people are into that and then there's rumors of them making

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what they're calling classic plus now which is a whole other thing but yeah like games that iterate

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ever quest wow all these old mmo's like it's really interesting because

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where does that argument stop because it might not even be within an expansion might be a patch

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within an expansion yeah so like a state of a game yeah like I mean okay here's a here's a

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perfect example of a game that you know there wouldn't be any kind of stop killing games

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impact on but they've absolutely made a change to it that has killed our ability to enjoy it

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tape to tape that's an early access game I have good news for you okay that's an early access game

00:38:38.500 --> 00:38:45.940
right now that they moved away from time-based game lengths to just first to reach a certain

00:38:45.940 --> 00:38:54.580
number of goals it's a hockey game and Luke was so upset by this change to the gameplay

00:38:54.580 --> 00:39:01.540
that I actually reached out to the lead developer or lead designer I guess is technically his title

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and I advocated on your behalf and mine as well I agree that a hockey game is determined by the clock

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not by how many you know who reaches the threshold number of goals is three periods three periods

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and there is now a drop down which totally cool the pre-alpha branch so you can select your difficulty

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and you can select first to a certain number of goals or time-based which is because maybe

00:39:28.100 --> 00:39:33.460
some people will like that very weird version of first to three goals maybe some people are into

00:39:33.460 --> 00:39:40.660
that cool I don't if it's an option I'm totally down yeah so it's we're back baby I looked today

00:39:40.660 --> 00:39:46.980
and it's in nice it's in the pre-alpha branch so that's good yeah very cool very cool um but

00:39:46.980 --> 00:39:51.060
yeah it gets you know yeah stop killing games wouldn't do anything about that because like everyone

00:39:51.060 --> 00:39:57.300
is mad about classic wow but it's still technically I don't know what expansion they're even on now

00:39:57.300 --> 00:40:01.940
but like the main branch is still technically there it never technically went away yep the game

00:40:01.940 --> 00:40:07.780
was technically never killed it was never killed it was just expanded upon for decades so this is a

00:40:07.780 --> 00:40:12.420
this is a tough this is going to be a tough thing to tackle because there's absolutely

00:40:12.420 --> 00:40:18.580
practical challenges like we've outlined already not being able to legislate maintaining software

00:40:18.580 --> 00:40:25.620
forever not being able to legislate never patching in or out functionality like that's

00:40:25.620 --> 00:40:31.220
something that they could do to get around this pretty easily is they could just patch out multiplayer

00:40:31.220 --> 00:40:39.380
yeah okay well that we didn't kill the game we patched the game down to a like you open a door

00:40:39.380 --> 00:40:44.660
and then the game is over it's it's it's now long it's no longer multiplayer it is single player and

00:40:44.660 --> 00:40:50.580
it shows an end screen you open one door and then the game ends and it says congratulations your speed

00:40:50.580 --> 00:40:55.060
run time is you know x or whatever and we have given the files out to the community to run this

00:40:55.060 --> 00:41:01.380
game so there's there's absolutely ways around this that we'd have to kind of try to to brainstorm

00:41:01.380 --> 00:41:07.860
all the sneaky ideas that executives and publishers might have to get around it but it's a tough problem

00:41:07.860 --> 00:41:14.580
i'm happy someone's trying to address it yes at least this is a step and i'm really glad to see

00:41:14.580 --> 00:41:20.420
that it's got the momentum that it does even if there are some voices within formerly of the

00:41:20.420 --> 00:41:26.740
industry that are speaking out against it because of some of these practical challenges around

00:41:26.740 --> 00:41:31.940
crafting this legislation and then ultimately enforcing it what do you want to talk about next

00:41:34.660 --> 00:41:39.140
well what's our headline not really our headline topic but what our our main topic apple

00:41:39.140 --> 00:41:45.780
really wants you to see the f1 wants you to see f1 the movie yeah in an excellent piece published

00:41:45.780 --> 00:41:58.020
on the star dot com dot my sure sure dot com dot my yeah okay uh jason atton aton aton sure jason

00:41:58.020 --> 00:42:04.100
yeah discusses what he thinks is apple's most important product trust and how apple violated

00:42:04.100 --> 00:42:10.340
customers trust with the recent push notifications sent to us iphone users through the wallet app

00:42:10.420 --> 00:42:14.500
offering them a ten dollar discount on tickets for the uh for f1 the movie

00:42:15.460 --> 00:42:24.660
huh i mean i have talked about this a fair bit but it always rings quite hypocritical to me

00:42:24.660 --> 00:42:32.420
i don't like that when apple criticizes their competitors for being ad platforms when apple

00:42:32.420 --> 00:42:38.420
is taking their very operating system and behaving no different from when microsoft

00:42:38.420 --> 00:42:45.140
integrated one drive that bothers you to subscribe to it or put stupid candy crush

00:42:45.140 --> 00:42:55.060
in the stupid start menu this is this is what apple would criticize anyone else for doing on

00:42:55.060 --> 00:43:04.020
any other timeline so atton opines that apple's entire brand is that it is not like other tech

00:43:04.980 --> 00:43:08.900
companies yes their products are expensive but in exchange for the larger bill at the checkout

00:43:08.900 --> 00:43:13.700
you get a better user experience in an ecosystem that at least claims to prioritize privacy and

00:43:13.700 --> 00:43:20.340
security over mining and monetizing your data he says that when apple uses an app most associated

00:43:20.340 --> 00:43:28.900
with security and trust to advertise to its users it crosses a line absolutely tech crunch reported

00:43:28.900 --> 00:43:34.740
on widespread social media complaints about the promotion and noted that a new offers and promotion

00:43:34.740 --> 00:43:40.740
setting for iOS 26's wallet app suggests that apple plans to push more marketing through the app in

00:43:40.740 --> 00:43:47.620
the future the push notification this is funny is actually in violation of apple's own app store

00:43:47.620 --> 00:43:54.660
guidelines guideline 4.5.4 states that push notifications should not be used for promotions

00:43:54.740 --> 00:43:59.860
or direct marketing purposes unless customers have explicitly opted in to receive them via

00:43:59.860 --> 00:44:04.820
consent language displayed in your app's UI and you provide a method in your app for a user to opt

00:44:04.820 --> 00:44:12.340
out of receiving such messages so jason goes on to say a company that has spent years telling

00:44:12.340 --> 00:44:17.380
the world that privacy is a fundamental human right a company that famously took on facebook

00:44:17.380 --> 00:44:24.020
and limited how apps can track users across other apps and websites just used its own system level

00:44:24.020 --> 00:44:30.660
app to send out marketing content that users didn't ask for and couldn't opt out of that's not a

00:44:30.660 --> 00:44:35.780
great look how much money did they get for this uh well i don't think it's so much about how much

00:44:35.780 --> 00:44:41.540
money they got i think it's more about how much money they spent like this is an apple tv production

00:44:43.620 --> 00:44:50.980
yeah i see our discussion question is but at least that u2 album was awesome right

00:44:51.620 --> 00:44:58.340
says jordan uh so this is actually not the first time that apple has just brazenly used

00:44:58.340 --> 00:45:05.220
their platform for marketing what is this website sorry apple tv is buying the tv rights in the

00:45:05.220 --> 00:45:15.140
us for f1 sorry sorry that's the affiliation thank you thank you uh j brad uh what is it

00:45:15.140 --> 00:45:21.940
this is the star dot com dot my website is a mess yeah don't worry about it it's a good it's a good

00:45:21.940 --> 00:45:28.820
take either way okay yeah let's not worry too much about that for now all right so i guess the question

00:45:28.820 --> 00:45:37.300
here is are we really surprised i mean apple's hypocrisy has been on full display for so long

00:45:37.300 --> 00:45:43.220
and i know that this really this really rubs a lot of apple fans the wrong way whenever i pointed out

00:45:43.220 --> 00:45:50.100
but like apple's whole thing with their whole like sub site on apple dot com about all their

00:45:50.100 --> 00:45:57.700
sustainability while at the same time in their other hand they're either facilitating or explicitly

00:45:57.700 --> 00:46:05.460
enforcing the bricking of perfectly functional devices like apple's whole holier than now thing

00:46:05.460 --> 00:46:10.900
around user privacy and security while operating data centers that are effectively under the control

00:46:10.900 --> 00:46:19.220
of the chinese government for their chinese users like can we please please stop pretending that apple

00:46:19.220 --> 00:46:27.460
is anything other than an equally soulless and heartless corporation like any other please

00:46:28.660 --> 00:46:34.660
don't fall for the branding that's all i ask and when yeah and when apple rubs me the wrong way

00:46:34.660 --> 00:46:40.020
over this stuff a big part of it is honestly not that they're behaving any different this is

00:46:40.020 --> 00:46:45.380
honestly not any worse than you know samsung promoting their crap to me on my samsung phone

00:46:45.380 --> 00:46:51.060
or google promoting their crap to me on my google phone the difference is that those guys for the

00:46:51.060 --> 00:46:56.660
most part just kind of own it google's like yep we're an advertising company

00:46:58.660 --> 00:47:05.300
whereas apple sits there and just blows smoke up their own asshole about how amazing they are

00:47:05.300 --> 00:47:12.260
and how much they care about this stuff no you don't when the rubber hits the road you guys will

00:47:12.260 --> 00:47:19.060
sell us out as fast as anyone else and here's the proof in f1 okay rubber hits the road didn't

00:47:19.060 --> 00:47:26.260
quite work there but the f1 thing i you know what i'm standing by it rubber it's one of my

00:47:26.260 --> 00:47:29.940
problems that i'm having is like people in some people in flow plane chat and some places on

00:47:30.580 --> 00:47:35.540
i'm seeing elsewhere i think this directly ties into what you were kind of just talking about but

00:47:37.700 --> 00:47:42.500
people are like oh but it's good though it's like man you can't that doesn't work

00:47:43.060 --> 00:47:45.540
because what if the next one's not good well yeah

00:47:48.340 --> 00:47:54.900
copy says except for Linus media group incorporated they have a soul right no i'd like to think that

00:47:54.900 --> 00:47:59.060
some of the people who work here have a soul but the company itself i'd like to think that

00:47:59.140 --> 00:48:06.340
influential people who work here have a soul and care but as soon as you go public you are

00:48:06.340 --> 00:48:12.980
beholden to your shareholders and in that case your shareholders are in it for literally one thing

00:48:13.620 --> 00:48:20.420
like in in our case our primary shareholder that's me has to get out here every week and talk to

00:48:20.420 --> 00:48:28.980
you guys directly and you guys talk to me directly sometimes very direct minus we need to talk okay

00:48:30.020 --> 00:48:35.540
that video you did on the lawnmower today didn't enjoy it actually actually for uh for just like

00:48:35.540 --> 00:48:39.380
a friday showcase people seem to be kind of into the lawnmower video today they said it's a lot better

00:48:39.380 --> 00:48:46.100
than the pool robot one we did so we we want land robot not water robot the point is the

00:48:46.100 --> 00:48:51.780
point i'm making is that we have a two-way dialogue and there is an actual ability potentially at

00:48:51.780 --> 00:48:56.580
least to make your voice heard and that may actually affect change and we did take a lot of the feedback

00:48:56.580 --> 00:49:02.260
from that pool robot video and integrate it into making a better lawn robot video this time was it

00:49:02.260 --> 00:49:08.100
still just a sponsored showcase that we put in our friday time slot where it's ultimately going to

00:49:08.100 --> 00:49:13.300
get stomped on by WAN Show and we know it's not going to perform very well you better believe it

00:49:14.260 --> 00:49:20.100
but hey we're able to have this conversation and we're able to make it as best of that as it could

00:49:20.100 --> 00:49:25.380
possibly be whereas with a publicly traded company like at the end of the day the people with the

00:49:25.380 --> 00:49:31.140
influential voice are going to be the shareholders that are able to exert power over the board of

00:49:31.140 --> 00:49:39.460
directors and the executive team um that's it your voice doesn't actually matter and if apple sees

00:49:39.620 --> 00:49:44.740
that in spite of people being upset about this that a whole bunch more people go to see f1 the

00:49:44.740 --> 00:49:48.820
movie and they ultimately get a bunch of kickback from it they're just going to do it again

00:49:52.180 --> 00:49:59.060
so no we don't have a soul and no you shouldn't just implicitly you know believe that we have

00:49:59.060 --> 00:50:03.940
your best interest at heart at the end of the day we we are a corporation like any other

00:50:04.020 --> 00:50:09.860
but i also think that being a smaller company not a publicly traded company not having investors

00:50:09.860 --> 00:50:17.700
who are purely in it to extract as much value as possible over as fast a timeline as possible

00:50:17.700 --> 00:50:24.260
i do think that that makes smaller companies a little different maybe we even think different

00:50:27.220 --> 00:50:32.980
maybe we are apple okay i i genuinely really miss the old taglines like until inside was really good

00:50:33.940 --> 00:50:39.940
what even is Intel's current one is it still Intel inside i don't think i legitimately don't

00:50:39.940 --> 00:50:47.860
even know but like this is a pro i can think of uh there's one company that i really like their

00:50:47.860 --> 00:50:52.420
tagline and then they changed it and i like kept saying their old one and then they square space

00:50:52.420 --> 00:50:58.580
mad at us build it beautiful it was so much better what is it now i don't know yeah who

00:50:58.580 --> 00:51:02.900
cares who cares once you get one that's really good and everyone likes you should probably

00:51:02.900 --> 00:51:08.660
just keep it is this just nostalgia glasses though do you are you just a boomer who remembers

00:51:08.660 --> 00:51:12.500
the beautiful was good who remembers things the way they liked it until inside was good

00:51:13.780 --> 00:51:21.780
think different was good what is apples now what's ours i don't think we have one maybe we should

00:51:22.500 --> 00:51:26.500
you get a passion for technology okay that's on our mission statement that's not it though

00:51:26.500 --> 00:51:38.340
yeah that's not it light things on fire dude when i did that interview and talked about

00:51:38.340 --> 00:51:44.100
sort of how we see our role in the tech space as like going around and like starting little fires

00:51:44.100 --> 00:51:48.260
and like seeing what burns you know what i was thinking was ignite passion for technology

00:51:49.380 --> 00:51:55.860
but the context around the events that happened at that time with the california wildfires

00:51:56.820 --> 00:52:03.140
and the fact that i was down in california oh no and the timing of the release of the video

00:52:03.140 --> 00:52:09.860
like the wildfires hadn't happened yet when i used that analogy analogy yeah

00:52:12.260 --> 00:52:16.660
so maybe we sometimes doing stuff in public is hard yeah how about we sprout passion for

00:52:16.740 --> 00:52:28.180
technology we'll change it spread it it sounds impregnated oh impregnate passion yeah that plant

00:52:28.180 --> 00:52:36.500
seeds of passion yeah deep seeds like from alien the burst out of your chest

00:52:36.500 --> 00:52:40.900
um cool

00:52:44.980 --> 00:52:48.340
what are we but is something that speaking of fires is something on fire

00:52:48.820 --> 00:52:53.060
uh somewhat i got it though it's fine he's doing great uh why don't we jump into

00:52:53.060 --> 00:52:56.260
whatever we're supposed to be doing next we could do another topic or we could do some

00:52:56.260 --> 00:53:00.260
merch messages how about some merch messages if uh looks doing his job instead of his job

00:53:01.060 --> 00:53:09.060
whoa oh interesting okay sure uh uh merch messages are the way to interact with the show

00:53:09.060 --> 00:53:16.180
we've actually got where to go here it is we've got a really exciting new product on the store

00:53:16.180 --> 00:53:22.420
right now it is our transparent edition of the LTT screwdriver it's every bit the LTT screwdriver

00:53:22.420 --> 00:53:28.500
that you already know and love but now it's clear so you can see the bits like this and you can even

00:53:28.500 --> 00:53:33.060
see them when they're in there like that you can even see the ratchet mechanism moving around in

00:53:33.060 --> 00:53:38.100
there a little bit as it click click click click click click clicks and makes it satisfying noises

00:53:38.100 --> 00:53:44.100
so now's a perfect time just like jacob s to pick up one of these by sending in a merch message

00:53:44.100 --> 00:53:49.620
merch messages go to producer Dan who will either reply to them himself forward them internally

00:53:49.620 --> 00:53:54.660
for someone else to address or curate them for me and luke all you got to do to send a

00:53:54.660 --> 00:54:03.780
merch message is go to lttstore.com add something to your cart like hey say for example this or

00:54:05.060 --> 00:54:10.660
the transparent collection that's a cool hoodie that actually has my dental records on it because

00:54:10.660 --> 00:54:18.260
we are absolutely unhinged people uh what else we got you could add oh the new uh hydro phase swim

00:54:18.260 --> 00:54:22.420
shorts from our touch sand collection just add something to your cart and whenever we're live

00:54:22.420 --> 00:54:27.140
you will see a box for a merch message and you want to show the peoples how it works sure thing

00:54:27.140 --> 00:54:34.420
i've got one here from alissa Linus i have an epson home cinema 4010 pro uhd saw the valerian

00:54:34.420 --> 00:54:40.260
pro 2 video specs beat mine on paper i thought that short throws were worse than traditional

00:54:40.260 --> 00:54:46.820
projectors what am i missing is it worth switching for so i'd say traditional viewpoint is that short

00:54:46.820 --> 00:54:53.300
throws were worse because you could have more distortion because of the the optics that are

00:54:53.300 --> 00:54:59.140
needed to create such a large image over such a short distance and how much you have to kind of

00:54:59.140 --> 00:55:03.540
stretch it in order to do that and just the the angle of the light and the wall and all that

00:55:04.260 --> 00:55:11.540
with that said optics is an area of technological advancement over the last like

00:55:12.260 --> 00:55:17.780
10 to 20 years that honestly probably has not gotten enough attention it's one of those things

00:55:17.780 --> 00:55:24.020
where like people often in person people thinking they're gonna get an unexpected answer will ask

00:55:24.020 --> 00:55:29.380
me things like you know what's the most exciting change in technology you've seen over your career

00:55:29.380 --> 00:55:35.700
and the answer that i invariably give because i genuinely believe this is one that they they

00:55:35.700 --> 00:55:40.820
don't expect so nobody comes away disappointed but i think it's actually in lighting um

00:55:41.940 --> 00:55:50.340
think about what has transpired in the time our company has existed in lighting like cinema

00:55:50.340 --> 00:55:57.540
lighting technology but also just the expense even the key no float like what has scaled

00:55:58.100 --> 00:56:05.540
simultaneously in quality like lighting and in cost like lighting in the time that our company

00:56:05.540 --> 00:56:11.060
has existed name something that is not what i would have expected our key no flow diva lights

00:56:11.060 --> 00:56:19.300
were these quad fluorescent tube light things that had this cheap shoddy like corrugated plastic

00:56:19.860 --> 00:56:26.980
flap system on them they were freaking heavy they were ridiculously expensive very expensive they

00:56:27.780 --> 00:56:34.820
like sucked uh they weren't very bright and they had absolutely no capacity for adjusting them

00:56:35.540 --> 00:56:39.780
in terms of their um their color temperature they just like were what they were they were

00:56:39.780 --> 00:56:47.620
whatever fluorescent tubes you put in them nowadays dude companies like aperture you for like a few

00:56:47.620 --> 00:56:54.260
hundred bucks you can get lights that are ludicrously bright like you can run your entire set off a

00:56:54.260 --> 00:57:00.260
single circuit instead of having to you know have flip in like one halogen light that has to run off

00:57:00.260 --> 00:57:05.140
a cable from way the frick that set over there and then like a bunch of other ones for the back that

00:57:05.140 --> 00:57:09.700
can run on this circuit you need like three circuits to light your stupid set you can run an

00:57:09.700 --> 00:57:15.860
entire set off of a single circuit you can make all these fancy adjustments to your color temperature

00:57:15.860 --> 00:57:21.860
and your brightness and super granular it's all like wirelessly controlled and relatively simple

00:57:21.860 --> 00:57:28.340
to integrate compared to what things were like back when we started um man what we paid for our uh

00:57:28.420 --> 00:57:35.220
flip in uh well the RGB lights Dan that are first ones the blue ones sky panels or the Titan tubes

00:57:35.220 --> 00:57:41.860
or something like that oh dude Titan tubes are so expensive but now you can now you can get like

00:57:41.860 --> 00:57:46.660
off-brand ones that are like way cheaper they're like battery powered you could stick a light anywhere

00:57:46.660 --> 00:57:51.780
you want and just as powerful and they're and they're awesome but like our our first sky panels

00:57:51.780 --> 00:57:56.260
those are from Ari which tells you everything you need to know about how much they cost and like

00:57:56.260 --> 00:58:00.980
i was like oh this is so cool because they had modes for uh like firelight flickering

00:58:00.980 --> 00:58:06.100
and modes for like old school black and white tv so you could have it like off-camera and it could

00:58:06.100 --> 00:58:10.820
like cast kind of like sometimes a little bit more black sometimes a bit more white i think some

00:58:10.820 --> 00:58:15.700
just a cop car they had cop car i think some people aren't recognizing that you are talking

00:58:15.700 --> 00:58:22.180
chronologically yeah because i got a comment that are like oh this thing is much better than the

00:58:22.180 --> 00:58:27.940
keynote flow the the keynote flow that we bought was 15 years ago yeah yeah that's the point yeah

00:58:27.940 --> 00:58:35.220
is the keynote flow sucked back then but that was like the go-to like decent kind of affordable

00:58:35.220 --> 00:58:39.300
light and it was like five grand or something like that almost every youtuber that was heavily

00:58:39.300 --> 00:58:45.860
investing in their camera setups at that time that i knew um had keynote flows yeah and like

00:58:45.860 --> 00:58:52.660
dude by comparison i could buy some stupid little like led array on ali express and a little bit of

00:58:52.660 --> 00:58:57.220
like diffusion paper or something and i could get better lighting results out of that for like

00:58:57.860 --> 00:59:02.660
20 bucks than that keynote flow from it's been pretty like 13 years ago or whenever we bought

00:59:02.660 --> 00:59:07.220
even the lights that are behind you now those tiny little square things they are so bright

00:59:07.220 --> 00:59:15.620
they're ip 65 waterproof they're led um they're RGB they're taped to the floor yes you can't move

00:59:15.620 --> 00:59:19.860
them because people bump into them dude and the little battery powered ones you can put on your

00:59:19.860 --> 00:59:24.900
camera like those existed 10 years ago they were kind of rough but they were pretty bad they weren't

00:59:24.900 --> 00:59:30.340
bright they were expensive the battery life sucked like i remember we'd have to oh man we'd like

00:59:30.340 --> 00:59:35.460
micromanage like our mic pack batteries and our camera batteries and a stupid battery for the

00:59:35.460 --> 00:59:41.780
little thing nowadays it's so easy to build a nice rig with just like one battery that like daisy

00:59:41.780 --> 00:59:49.140
chains across to everything um no no i dude oh man smash champs smash champs is another great example

00:59:49.140 --> 00:59:58.740
of this um hold on i'm gonna i'm gonna just bring this up do you have any flipping idea what the

01:00:04.500 --> 01:00:10.260
probably so surprising for people is because house lighting premium house lighting is still

01:00:10.260 --> 01:00:17.140
really expensive and honestly i don't know why house lighting for leds looks kind of poo

01:00:18.180 --> 01:00:22.900
hold on where's a where's a better shot that shows okay so here uh no is that a video

01:00:22.900 --> 01:00:27.620
why do i keep clicking videos can i just click something that's not a video here we go is this

01:00:27.620 --> 01:00:33.140
a video there it's not a video okay perfect okay they're not actually on they're not lit though

01:00:33.140 --> 01:00:41.060
this is absolutely genius here we go finally okay okay cool so um this lighting setup here was

01:00:41.060 --> 01:00:48.580
inspired by a lighting setup that i saw in a hall in taiwan like almost 10 years ago now i think

01:00:48.580 --> 01:00:55.540
and they had these really cool fixtures they were basically giant rectangular prisms that had that

01:00:55.540 --> 01:01:03.220
were like a like diffuse uh like matte white prisms that were suspended across the entire hall

01:01:03.220 --> 01:01:09.380
kind of like this um and it was less janky because they didn't have all these stupid like

01:01:09.380 --> 01:01:14.820
ready rods and aircraft cable and stuff like they were really nice architectural design as opposed to

01:01:14.820 --> 01:01:23.940
our functional design and um ever since i played there i i knew i wanted that for my ideal lighting

01:01:23.940 --> 01:01:29.140
because it brings the lights down closer to the court and the closer the light is the less bright

01:01:29.140 --> 01:01:34.740
it needs to be and therefore the less dazzling it is whenever you accidentally look directly into

01:01:34.740 --> 01:01:39.380
the light which inevitably will happen when there's a moving projectile that could be coming from

01:01:39.380 --> 01:01:47.220
anywhere to anywhere on the court surface um to do something like that back in the day good lord

01:01:47.220 --> 01:01:52.260
they were so bright crazy yeah you would it would have had to have been full of either incandescent

01:01:52.260 --> 01:01:59.220
or ccfl light sources you'd be losing a bunch of it to the to the diffusion layer nowadays do you

01:01:59.220 --> 01:02:06.100
know how we made these these are just like your typical four by two office light panels and then

01:02:06.100 --> 01:02:13.220
they're just on an angle yeah they're just mounted to like this uh this aluminum structure here is

01:02:13.220 --> 01:02:18.980
there a diffusion layer on there in addition to the standard no that's just built in yeah because

01:02:18.980 --> 01:02:22.900
it looks good it's just built in it looks like way better they've got little color temperature

01:02:22.900 --> 01:02:27.060
switches on them so you can just decide what color temperature you want and look at this

01:02:27.060 --> 01:02:34.580
you can actually really tell in the picture that the consistency is really good oh yeah like even

01:02:34.580 --> 01:02:40.820
feels like that when you're there too even when led panels got somewhat affordable like i don't know

01:02:40.820 --> 01:02:47.620
what five years ago ten years ago the cri of them sucked and the consistency was all over the place

01:02:47.620 --> 01:02:54.100
nowadays you can just buy commodity stuff like these weren't even expensive i mean by enough

01:02:54.100 --> 01:02:59.300
of them and anything's expensive but relatively speaking they weren't even expensive and they're

01:02:59.300 --> 01:03:06.580
just outstanding and so i yeah i just i can't think of anything in the technology space that has

01:03:06.580 --> 01:03:13.460
come down in price and up in quality like led lighting and i gotta i gotta caveat this with

01:03:13.460 --> 01:03:18.020
i'm gonna say health things and you're watching a tech podcast so don't don't uh don't yell at me

01:03:18.020 --> 01:03:26.980
just look it up a lime a day keeps your lover away i was trying to pick something i like that one

01:03:27.780 --> 01:03:33.860
but yeah i've heard meanwhile in homes i've heard that things like the very very white light that

01:03:33.860 --> 01:03:38.980
we're getting from modern leds and stuff is like bad for you because of circadian rhythm things and

01:03:38.980 --> 01:03:43.780
stuff like that like the color temperature that we yeah that we set everything to cri i think

01:03:43.780 --> 01:03:48.660
something they're not very full spectrum i'm not i'm not very up on top of this but and then like

01:03:48.660 --> 01:03:55.300
actually nice lighting for your home is really expensive still so it hasn't the like consumer

01:03:55.300 --> 01:04:00.020
space hasn't really followed the exact same trend in my experience oh as like the production space

01:04:00.020 --> 01:04:05.780
and the commercial space yeah well maybe it's just different different incentives right like on the

01:04:05.780 --> 01:04:13.620
production space in the production space everything comes down to like yeah why yeah i mean i guess

01:04:13.620 --> 01:04:18.660
just my understanding is like led technology just misses a whole bunch of wavelengths and then you

01:04:18.660 --> 01:04:23.620
get something like the china ball that's above us which is a you know full spectrum proper real

01:04:23.620 --> 01:04:30.420
light uh-huh they have to do a lot of work right interesting that's my understanding please feel

01:04:30.420 --> 01:04:36.340
free to correct me but you know high cri and full spectrum bulbs are way easier to do in the in the day

01:04:37.700 --> 01:04:42.340
and i guess what's driving what's driving the innovation there that allows them to do that in

01:04:42.340 --> 01:04:51.220
the production space is a combination like you've got the volume to invest in building a really good

01:04:51.220 --> 01:04:56.820
led light but obviously you would have in in like a home setting as well you have the volume

01:04:56.820 --> 01:05:01.220
but in a production space you also have people willing to pay at least some premium

01:05:01.220 --> 01:05:05.460
whereas i don't know about you but for me when i'm like buying a light bulb to put in a fixture

01:05:05.460 --> 01:05:14.260
in my house i'm not i'm not paying like extra yeah and it's and it's cheaper because you don't have

01:05:14.260 --> 01:05:22.580
to care yeah we really have to care that's interesting yeah and the flicker free stuff

01:05:22.580 --> 01:05:27.700
like your LEDs can blink in your home only a huge problem you can't perceptively tell that

01:05:27.700 --> 01:05:33.060
they're blinking but it's like bad for you for some ish reason again like please yeah who knows

01:05:34.260 --> 01:05:38.340
i did make sure i did make sure where's my where's my do you want to press the thing

01:05:38.340 --> 01:05:44.340
oh uh yeah i could i could do that did you do it there you go there we go nice i don't know

01:05:44.340 --> 01:05:48.900
look it up if you care but uh there's there's a lot of stuff going on with lighting yeah i made

01:05:48.900 --> 01:05:53.460
sure these don't flicker because uh we want to be able to record in slow mo at some point

01:05:53.460 --> 01:06:00.020
and i didn't want that to be a problem so so and it was not that hard to find just commodity

01:06:00.020 --> 01:06:06.020
office lights that just to go in a drop ceiling that don't flicker it just it blew my mind that

01:06:06.020 --> 01:06:13.300
never used to be a thing yeah i know right like impossible i know right yeah so the quality just

01:06:13.300 --> 01:06:19.700
keeps getting it gets and it's happening so fast like even five years ago when we were looking for

01:06:19.700 --> 01:06:25.460
lights like for the office it was freaking impossible to find anything that like brandon wouldn't lose

01:06:25.460 --> 01:06:30.260
his shit if we installed and like didn't have also proper filming lights in addition to them

01:06:30.260 --> 01:06:36.100
whereas like nowadays we could just hook these in the office and turn on a camera like incredible

01:06:36.100 --> 01:06:42.100
pretty ones we put in the Labs like the drop-in ceiling ones pretty high cri yep pretty decent

01:06:42.100 --> 01:06:48.020
super dimmable yeah yeah top gear and full planchetta is calling it pwm flicker yeah that's

01:06:48.020 --> 01:06:53.700
that's right but yeah like the the old ones would just kind of glow oh incandescent yeah so there

01:06:53.700 --> 01:06:59.060
you didn't have the flicker problem well they ran off they ran directly off of ac so theoretically

01:06:59.060 --> 01:07:06.260
they should flicker but because you were just heating up an element it wouldn't cool down enough

01:07:06.260 --> 01:07:11.940
in between the cycles for it to be a problem so it wasn't until we started doing things digitally

01:07:11.940 --> 01:07:18.260
that we were like oh whoops um and and anytime you had a dimmable bulb they just oh man did they

01:07:18.260 --> 01:07:24.020
ever suck in the early days emily shebang has said uh in in full planchette said i'm autistic

01:07:24.020 --> 01:07:29.780
terrible sensory issues and can see the tiniest micro flicker possible and it's triggered my seizures

01:07:29.780 --> 01:07:34.100
yeah so flicker is bad and apparently it affects at least some people people that don't have those

01:07:34.100 --> 01:07:41.860
problems oh i as far as uh as far as i have heard it's like technically bad for all of us to a

01:07:41.860 --> 01:07:51.620
certain degree um i don't know was that one merge message yes good lord i'm either really good at

01:07:51.620 --> 01:07:56.820
this or really bad at it um thank you for sending a nice merge message depends on what we're trying

01:07:56.820 --> 01:08:02.420
to accomplish okay yeah go for it Dan um why don't we do a second one and then we'll get into the

01:08:02.420 --> 01:08:10.740
saw stuff sure um let's see g'day tall slightly shorter and short why is my download speed in

01:08:10.740 --> 01:08:16.900
australia so slow i've noticed over in northern america speeds are two to three times faster

01:08:16.900 --> 01:08:23.140
very jealous cheers how tall are you dad six foot two or sorry sorry five foot fourteen

01:08:23.940 --> 01:08:26.660
get out

01:08:29.300 --> 01:08:30.420
i can't out my head

01:08:34.260 --> 01:08:40.900
oh hold on the female audience in Floatplane chat says yes and you never answered it it was

01:08:40.900 --> 01:08:48.100
about projectors oh um these days i would say you can get a short throw with relatively low

01:08:48.100 --> 01:08:55.460
distortion however i will say that compared to an ultra short throw the higher end cinema models

01:08:55.460 --> 01:09:04.900
do still tend to be um short throw or like normal ish throw lengths and those tend to be the higher

01:09:04.900 --> 01:09:10.420
quality models that have features like lens shift that make it much easier to get perfect alignment

01:09:10.420 --> 01:09:16.740
uh etc etc so and they're like just giant bulbs right there you go okay sorry uh what was the new

01:09:16.740 --> 01:09:23.060
one uh yes why is the internet slow in australia um because you're a penal colony and nobody cares

01:09:23.060 --> 01:09:34.820
about you i'm glad somebody said it um the actual reason is the ocean because there's limited tubes

01:09:38.980 --> 01:09:44.180
what they call it it's the internet is not a big lorry well now and everybody's cutting them that

01:09:44.180 --> 01:09:48.260
doesn't help yeah that's darn sharks really is not helping way to go china

01:09:53.540 --> 01:09:57.220
all right uh are we what are we doing now do you want to do the game

01:09:57.940 --> 01:10:02.180
do you want to do another topic and then the game i guess we should probably do the game which i just

01:10:02.180 --> 01:10:18.260
lost and so did all of you okay so um i was handed this backpack yes don't open the backpack just

01:10:18.260 --> 01:10:24.100
yet yeah i'm supposed to not see or something okay i put the knock away close your eyes do i

01:10:24.100 --> 01:10:31.300
turn them in 360 degrees and walk away one commuter back okay that's an old old reference still checks

01:10:31.300 --> 01:10:39.300
out i get it vintage okay now what read the thing oh wait i have to close my eyes no i close my eyes

01:10:39.300 --> 01:10:46.820
read oh he closes his eyes my eyes are closed let's play a game limeday you don't have to you

01:10:46.820 --> 01:10:53.700
don't have to close your eyes i don't me yeah no just close the dock it's fine okay limeday

01:10:53.700 --> 01:11:00.580
our annual sales event where we squeeze our margins and bring you sweet deals is happening next week

01:11:00.580 --> 01:11:06.260
starting wednesday july 9th but instead of just listing out the deals you can expect

01:11:06.260 --> 01:11:12.820
we thought it'd be fun to play a little game luke yes we're going to show you five different items

01:11:12.820 --> 01:11:20.500
that are going to be on sale or in a bundle during limeday okay you have one guess to figure out what

01:11:20.580 --> 01:11:31.380
each item is but here's the catch the picture is going to be very zoomed in oh oh and if you don't

01:11:31.380 --> 01:11:38.740
get at least three out of five you have to take a bite out of this lime oh but if you do get three

01:11:38.740 --> 01:11:45.380
out of five Linus has to i take a bite out of the line all right i don't think i'll mind taking

01:11:45.380 --> 01:11:51.060
the bite out of the lime so hopefully with skin i with skin i mean i would assume so yeah i just

01:11:51.060 --> 01:11:57.060
chomping oh right the side of it do you have to consume the whole thing i just take a take a bite

01:11:57.060 --> 01:12:01.780
i think you have to at least chew three times i'm fine with that i don't know if i want to

01:12:01.780 --> 01:12:06.660
yeah i i don't think you have to swallow i okay yeah do we yeah it's not that type of show

01:12:09.620 --> 01:12:14.980
not yet wait for after dark yeah really okay all right there's some interesting stuff because

01:12:14.980 --> 01:12:20.340
like both of our backpacks use reprieve right uh yes so like

01:12:22.980 --> 01:12:26.500
and then also last year there was stuff in limeday that we don't sell

01:12:27.940 --> 01:12:33.140
so this might be kind of tough how am i supposed to see the things i guess Dan will it'll pop up on

01:12:33.140 --> 01:12:37.780
screen okay and then after you get it right or wrong we'll we'll show you the full picture

01:12:37.780 --> 01:12:41.540
that it was based off of and then we'll show you the item okay you're ready for number one

01:12:42.020 --> 01:12:42.820
first item

01:12:46.660 --> 01:12:52.420
what product is that luke i think i'm not gonna eat this line are you actually kidding me what's

01:12:52.420 --> 01:12:58.500
number one transparent screwdriver is that your final answer sure you only get one are you ready

01:12:58.500 --> 01:13:08.340
to see what it is sure we have our iconic double wall vacuum sealed water bottle on both our us

01:13:08.340 --> 01:13:14.740
and global site you will get $15 off our regular price during limeday do you see it now

01:13:15.940 --> 01:13:22.820
sure it's so obvious i screw you see that's the outline of the bottle uh yeah i should have known

01:13:22.820 --> 01:13:29.220
that was so obvious but okay i think there's one in your um in your sack there line us yeah

01:13:29.220 --> 01:13:42.260
oh all right that was that was really hard that oh that was the easy one oh okay wait okay okay so

01:13:42.260 --> 01:13:46.500
Dan you shouldn't show him the thing i think that's why i have this i think i'm supposed to show him

01:13:46.500 --> 01:13:52.100
the the thing that's in here i'm looking i have no idea oh i think it's i actually have two water

01:13:52.100 --> 01:13:58.900
bottles ah okay i guess they wanted me to point out that we have different sizes that's true oh sorry

01:13:58.900 --> 01:14:03.540
i got am i still supposed to not be looking at stuff yep there we go you can just look up

01:14:03.540 --> 01:14:07.700
it's fine i'm just holding up water bottles i just don't look at the dock i had them wrong before

01:14:07.700 --> 01:14:12.020
now they're fixed don't don't look at the dock and you're fine i've got the text uncovered i i'm not

01:14:12.020 --> 01:14:18.260
is my what are you doing all right second item i write it for item number two and if luke gets

01:14:18.260 --> 01:14:24.660
this one wrong he has to get the last three right yeah all right you're ready okay here we go

01:14:32.660 --> 01:14:39.940
it's so obvious oh my god wait okay this one's actually get a bowl this one's get a bowl yeah

01:14:41.140 --> 01:14:44.500
this one's getting it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it looks closely at it

01:14:44.500 --> 01:14:51.060
absolutely without opening it wait the backpack yeah i don't know um because that you can see the

01:14:51.060 --> 01:14:57.300
weave on the backpack you can look you can you can can i look at LTT Store at the products

01:14:57.860 --> 01:15:04.980
oh is is that allowed Dan i don't know that's not against the rules i mean i think we should

01:15:04.980 --> 01:15:08.980
have a time limit if you're gonna do that because this is gonna take forever no that seems fair

01:15:08.980 --> 01:15:13.540
it's gonna take forever if you do that that seems fair okay you have to close the chat though get the

01:15:13.540 --> 01:15:17.140
chat out of here that's fine that's fine absolute pumpkin eater over here

01:15:24.180 --> 01:15:28.980
oh could it be that

01:15:37.860 --> 01:15:42.500
i'm gonna go with that precision screwdriver precision screwdriver yeah hold on wait for it

01:15:43.060 --> 01:15:52.340
i'm not that confident but i'm gonna go with it let's go our precision multi-bit screwdriver

01:15:52.340 --> 01:15:57.620
let's go we're gonna be offering a really sweet deal where you get a precision screwdriver and bit

01:15:57.620 --> 01:16:04.900
set bundle with a free jerry rig everything knife oh cool so if you get the bundle small tools you

01:16:04.900 --> 01:16:13.140
get the free knife let's go that's legit all right hmm number the third well LTT stores up that's

01:16:13.140 --> 01:16:28.420
it okay you ready go for it what what okay i think this browsing the site is a bit of a hack

01:16:28.420 --> 01:16:33.220
hey sam is it not to browse the site you can't look the site you can't look the site close the

01:16:33.220 --> 01:16:51.300
site look at it look at it what are you kidding me what are you doing i want to make it easier

01:16:52.020 --> 01:17:00.340
oh it doesn't make anything easier oh my goodness look at him he's staring at my soul

01:17:01.460 --> 01:17:07.700
oh my goodness is that that hard what do you mean no no no no he's staring at my soul wow

01:17:09.380 --> 01:17:17.940
get me the ding ah yes sorry oh that's so good jeez okay um go for it do you give up i don't

01:17:17.940 --> 01:17:23.940
know what he can't give up he's has to guess i don't think he was in the the new swimsuit photos

01:17:23.940 --> 01:17:30.820
but it's not going to be a standard shirt why is this why is that even his hand is that someone

01:17:30.820 --> 01:17:35.300
else's hand is that can you zoom in on the hand i don't think this is going to help me in hands

01:17:35.300 --> 01:17:40.420
there's no way elijah would wear out like his it also looks like a significant it doesn't look

01:17:40.420 --> 01:17:46.740
like he's doing this oh my god it looks like it might be someone else's hand so it's a group photo

01:17:46.740 --> 01:17:53.780
one of the things that we have yes it's on the store thanks yo lttstore.com um

01:17:55.380 --> 01:17:59.860
sofa tux says learn your product catalog dork it's not even there

01:18:01.940 --> 01:18:06.260
literally nothing to do with the product is in this spot okay let me just i'm gonna give you

01:18:06.260 --> 01:18:11.940
you have to take a guess i'm gonna give you a i'm gonna give you a hint what no he has to guess

01:18:11.940 --> 01:18:18.180
i think he's just making it smaller just what there's your hint just guess

01:18:19.860 --> 01:18:24.020
okay there's my hint is this a real hint or are you just trolling

01:18:26.580 --> 01:18:32.660
the task jacket all right ready oh wait do i not have oh i don't have to fit in the

01:18:32.740 --> 01:18:38.900
i don't think you have this shirt it's a specific shirt it's a blank t-shirt

01:18:42.740 --> 01:18:50.020
during lime day you will be able to get four of our blanks for only 60 dollars and that's the

01:18:50.020 --> 01:18:57.380
price on both the us and canadian site four for 60 that's 15 dollars each for our blank

01:18:57.540 --> 01:19:03.860
i didn't think you would stoop so low me to put a specific shirt not you to put a specific

01:19:03.860 --> 01:19:06.020
it's not a specific shirt it's just a blank it was you

01:19:11.620 --> 01:19:18.100
and a blank is a specific shirt no if i have a bunch of them yeah but there are other shirts

01:19:18.100 --> 01:19:24.500
that you sell mm well i see what you mean okay okay okay all right all right fourth item you

01:19:24.580 --> 01:19:28.580
need to get the next two correct yeah like that's gonna happen because you're gonna show

01:19:28.580 --> 01:19:33.220
me are you ready how about this how about compromise what product is no no no how about

01:19:33.220 --> 01:19:41.140
compromise compromise compromise on the next one he can browse the site for one minute now he'll be

01:19:41.140 --> 01:19:49.060
fine okay i'm i'm actually i'm actually on your side here i appreciate the sammy's here he's got

01:19:49.140 --> 01:19:53.700
a gun to my head we can't bend the rules this isn't my segment sammy does actually have a gun

01:19:53.700 --> 01:19:58.820
right now it's a little terrifying fourth item i don't know how he got on the office okay well

01:19:58.820 --> 01:20:05.220
he got them at the gun show yeah you you go to the gym even work now okay this man lifts

01:20:06.900 --> 01:20:07.380
i think

01:20:10.500 --> 01:20:16.900
um parties i think i can browse for two minutes two minutes yeah i you know this one two minutes

01:20:17.780 --> 01:20:25.940
it's so red i know this one why would i know i should after you threw the lines at the tv

01:20:27.380 --> 01:20:34.740
oh yeah that's not helpful what it's the it's fine it's perfectly helpful

01:20:36.420 --> 01:20:40.500
is it actually orange it's on the website apparently it's on the website i guess

01:20:41.060 --> 01:20:46.660
i i mean your two minutes is ticking so yeah my brain wants to go to screwdriver because the

01:20:46.660 --> 01:20:51.940
three lines are in like the the cap thingy but that's on it's on the website it's on the website

01:20:52.820 --> 01:20:58.580
what do you mean we can browse i mean we can browse but on the website it's a product that

01:20:58.820 --> 01:21:02.660
it's a product that isn't on the website apparently

01:21:05.540 --> 01:21:12.900
what what yeah i'll i'll get your lime ready this is this is doable this is doable this is doable

01:21:12.900 --> 01:21:19.300
this is not on the website no but you can use the website to help i'm getting your lime ready

01:21:20.660 --> 01:21:25.300
you're gonna get punched in the face i'm gonna be your lime ready if this isn't on the website

01:21:26.180 --> 01:21:31.380
listen it won't make sense once you figure it out luke just when you when you jump up in rage and

01:21:31.380 --> 01:21:36.900
jump over the tables just take your headphones off so the cable doesn't get caught and sammy please

01:21:36.900 --> 01:21:44.740
don't get blood on the concrete it's very hard to get out no i sealed this one oh okay uh yeah

01:21:44.740 --> 01:21:49.860
feel free to bleed wherever then it is this one is yeah this one is sealed all right what do you

01:21:49.940 --> 01:21:54.420
want it's not on the what you guess it will help okay you're gonna have to guess you're gonna do

01:21:54.420 --> 01:21:57.940
five seconds this is getting ridiculous

01:22:05.140 --> 01:22:07.140
the variation of the product on the website

01:22:10.020 --> 01:22:15.220
screwdriver all right you ready to see sure there's like no way i have to i have to reveal

01:22:15.540 --> 01:22:20.820
in the bag Dan there's like no way it's gonna be right because the screwdriver has those three

01:22:20.820 --> 01:22:29.940
things on it and i'm assuming that's okay wait so i didn't know it is red it's a screwdriver

01:22:29.940 --> 01:22:36.580
but not just any screwdriver it's a custom one this is one of five exclusive limeday color ways

01:22:36.580 --> 01:22:42.260
that you'll be able to get by purchasing a mystery screwdriver next week while saving

01:22:42.260 --> 01:22:50.580
20 us dollars on the u.s site or 30 canadian dollars on the global site do i get it wrong

01:22:50.580 --> 01:22:55.460
because i know you made me think that i messed up the color balance on my tv yeah what were you

01:22:55.460 --> 01:22:59.460
talking about Dan you guys need to stop giving so many bloody hints i thought it was supposed to

01:22:59.460 --> 01:23:05.540
be very orange the three things i'm just reading i'm just a messenger that was it yeah okay well

01:23:05.540 --> 01:23:11.460
that the thing that really threw me off was that he said it wasn't on the website yeah okay you guys

01:23:11.460 --> 01:23:17.780
are honestly hindering more than helping that's okay he has to get this one correct okay so the

01:23:17.780 --> 01:23:24.180
last one i vote everybody shut up and let him play the game yeah are you ready sure okay for all the

01:23:24.180 --> 01:23:32.660
lines that's not on the website either is it everyone's gonna shut up and let you play the game

01:23:32.660 --> 01:23:43.300
uh i think i even know what that is but that uh can i look at the website on this one

01:23:46.740 --> 01:23:54.420
okay yeah that wasn't the question but i don't know i don't know it's up to already the the game

01:23:54.420 --> 01:24:00.260
was never supposed to he was supposed to like it's supposed to this has dragged out forever you guys

01:24:00.260 --> 01:24:04.580
that's because he won't guess because he's gonna lose go on what's your what's your thought what's

01:24:04.580 --> 01:24:09.700
my thought i thought uh but i don't know if i can say because i don't know if it's even like say it

01:24:10.980 --> 01:24:16.500
say it uh let me type it to Linus you can say anything you want say it wan backpack

01:24:18.020 --> 01:24:22.820
it's our brand new wan edition of the LTT backpack that's right my friends

01:24:23.620 --> 01:24:24.420
but that doesn't

01:24:28.500 --> 01:24:30.260
i'm so thrown up because

01:24:32.100 --> 01:24:36.820
i thought the products were in the bag but this wasn't in the bag so i thought i was losing by

01:24:36.820 --> 01:24:42.180
saying when back it's the same backpack you know in love but with a little more

01:24:43.060 --> 01:24:49.060
personality we're going to be launching it next week but since it's lime day we're going to be

01:24:49.140 --> 01:24:54.580
loading it up with something really sweet if you want to find out what we're going to be putting

01:24:54.580 --> 01:25:01.860
in them sign up to get notified at lttstore.com slash lime you'll also be the first to be notified

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could maybe put it in the frame yeah they turned it around maybe i don't know just ideas um okay

01:25:32.820 --> 01:25:38.580
where's the salesmanship good enough is there

01:25:46.660 --> 01:25:51.940
oh wow that's tough yeah i watched you really try like he gave it a shot

01:25:53.860 --> 01:26:02.260
do you want to open it up first oh i am i i swear i'm like really trying to play sending it

01:26:05.220 --> 01:26:08.420
do you want me to do it too the contest was kind of messed up i can join you in this

01:26:08.420 --> 01:26:12.900
if you'd like i mean that's that's your call if we want to eat a lime you can eat a lime i won't

01:26:12.900 --> 01:26:24.740
stop i don't know if i can get in there or not

01:26:31.300 --> 01:26:35.780
sure oh man did you swallow the peel nope i'm just still going

01:26:37.700 --> 01:26:41.540
you know it's turning kind of nice it starts really bad but it gets pretty okay

01:26:42.100 --> 01:26:48.260
do you need a bucket i got juice all over my laptop i got it mostly on my pants oh

01:26:50.020 --> 01:26:54.740
it's also like all on one side which is really well i mean it depends what side it's hanging

01:26:54.740 --> 01:27:07.380
down right that's what i was it's supposed to hang okay we did it nice job did anyone think

01:27:07.380 --> 01:27:14.020
to have like a napkin or anything handy for this or i don't think so nice oh i mean we deserved that

01:27:14.020 --> 01:27:21.380
yeah well i did i don't know if you did i'm blocked by a tv sorry also you mentioned how like them

01:27:21.380 --> 01:27:27.220
helping me was not helping me it's they were actually unhelpful where is it on the website

01:27:27.220 --> 01:27:32.100
it's not on the website the wand backpack it's not exactly i don't know what they're talking about

01:27:32.100 --> 01:27:36.820
dude they were i didn't know that i generally was like i am losing but this is the only thing i

01:27:36.820 --> 01:27:41.460
can think makes sense i went from being like kind of annoyed because they were giving you a bunch

01:27:41.460 --> 01:27:46.420
of hints in this game that was supposed to be a game to kind of annoyed because they were like

01:27:46.420 --> 01:27:54.580
sabotaging that bag it was just sammy i repeatedly like i thought screwdriver would not have been

01:27:54.580 --> 01:27:59.620
possible because they said it wasn't on the website but i understand what he meant that variant wasn't

01:27:59.620 --> 01:28:05.940
yeah i think i i was super confused because i didn't know that variant existed on my monitors

01:28:05.940 --> 01:28:13.380
that's sort of orange yeah so i thought it was a color problem this monitor is extremely red

01:28:13.380 --> 01:28:17.700
i thought it was a color problem so i thought because of that it wasn't the screwdriver because

01:28:17.700 --> 01:28:23.380
they said it wasn't on the website so i was like what else can it possibly be no no see i knew

01:28:23.380 --> 01:28:29.620
that everything was fine and working completely normally and that his guess was good but we just

01:28:29.620 --> 01:28:36.820
had to sit through like four minutes of you guys misleading him i was uninformed and just get

01:28:36.820 --> 01:28:45.140
on with it okay so buy things uh next topic fire products so that we don't have to do this again

01:28:45.140 --> 01:28:51.380
what is this stupid show also in my defense and definitely the angle is way off but i thought

01:28:51.380 --> 01:28:55.700
it was this but way more zoomed in for the water bottle yeah this this is not it i thought it was

01:28:55.780 --> 01:29:01.380
it is the water bottle yeah half of it is the water bottle i get it no that's just

01:29:01.380 --> 01:29:06.340
foodies going to neck i said he's going for i just i just thought it was like a slightly weird

01:29:06.340 --> 01:29:11.540
photo i'm picking up what you're throwing down the germans have a word for everything on the last

01:29:11.540 --> 01:29:17.940
wandshow we got into a discussion about whether or not LMG is a big company or a small company and

01:29:17.940 --> 01:29:23.700
i kind of tried to describe or the way that i ultimately described it was we're a big enough

01:29:23.700 --> 01:29:29.140
company that a credit union cannot service our business properly yeah but we're too small of

01:29:29.140 --> 01:29:34.660
a company for the big multinational banks to like really care to care about us no no no to care about

01:29:34.660 --> 01:29:45.140
us at all like at all anyway redditor electrium underscore reached out with a german word that

01:29:45.140 --> 01:29:52.260
defines us and apparently it is mittel stand which according to wikipedia commonly refers to a group

01:29:52.260 --> 01:29:58.500
of stable business enterprises that have proved successful in enduring economic change in turbulence

01:29:58.500 --> 01:30:03.300
and is defined as a statistical category of small and medium-sized enterprises with annual revenues

01:30:03.300 --> 01:30:11.860
up to 50 million euro and a maximum of 500 employees so here's the uh here's the here's the the the

01:30:11.860 --> 01:30:18.420
low wikipedia it would have been nice if we linked to the actual post uh but oh yeah no here it is

01:30:19.060 --> 01:30:22.340
here it is so the way that they defined it was a little bit differently

01:30:23.140 --> 01:30:26.260
we made up a word for this kind of company it's um

01:30:30.820 --> 01:30:35.700
okay yeah anyway nope never mind yep cool good definition thank you that actually does help

01:30:36.820 --> 01:30:42.340
yeah we're a we're a mittel stand yeah is what our company is and there are complications with

01:30:42.340 --> 01:30:49.620
that the transition is pain surprisingly very difficult and painful and i can understand why

01:30:49.620 --> 01:30:56.660
a lot of companies might not make it like i i got to confess when people told me that the um

01:30:57.620 --> 01:31:04.500
i forget people lay it out both in like revenue terms and in like headcount terms um but when

01:31:04.500 --> 01:31:10.820
people told me like oh yeah this transition when you grow from like 100 to 500 employees is where

01:31:10.820 --> 01:31:16.420
most companies die i always looked at it and went well like that's crazy why would that happen

01:31:16.420 --> 01:31:24.900
like if you're if you're profitable and doing great up to 80 employees what you have 110 employees

01:31:24.900 --> 01:31:31.460
and you just go bankrupt um but what we're learning as we are as we have scaled to 100

01:31:32.020 --> 01:31:38.580
over 100 back under 100 and then now over 100 over this course of the last like three years

01:31:38.580 --> 01:31:45.460
where we haven't really grown in headcount at all is that the communication and process challenges

01:31:45.460 --> 01:31:49.700
associated with crossing this threshold you effectively have to rebuild your entire company

01:31:49.700 --> 01:31:55.780
are painful but the difference is that this time you're building the airplane while flying it

01:31:55.780 --> 01:32:02.580
whereas the first time um you were building the airplane and figuring out how to take off the

01:32:02.580 --> 01:32:10.020
runway like it's a very very different experience and there's so many more voices

01:32:10.020 --> 01:32:16.980
so many more vested interests it's um it's been challenging to put it lightly no i like it that

01:32:16.980 --> 01:32:21.380
way

01:32:25.060 --> 01:32:25.860
nothing changed

01:32:28.980 --> 01:32:34.740
and now way more people know about oh i saw their messages don't imagine i didn't see them this will

01:32:34.740 --> 01:32:45.140
bother even more people now i tried does it how is it better if they match i don't think so

01:32:45.460 --> 01:32:48.020
i really don't think so

01:32:50.500 --> 01:32:57.380
um well we'll see this is interesting the columbian navy has snagged a starlink equipped

01:32:57.380 --> 01:33:03.860
narco sub on wednesday this week the columbian navy captured an unmanned semi submersible that

01:33:03.860 --> 01:33:10.340
was equipped with a starlink antenna this unmanned drone vessel is believed to have been a trial run

01:33:10.660 --> 01:33:16.340
automated cocaine trafficking no drugs were found aboard the vessel but columbian officials stated

01:33:16.340 --> 01:33:22.740
that it had the capacity to transport as much as one and a half tons of cocaine so it was a test

01:33:22.740 --> 01:33:28.340
run manned semi submersibles clandestinely built in the jungle have been used for decades to ferry

01:33:28.340 --> 01:33:33.620
cocaine from columbia to central america and mexico and having recent years been found crossing the

01:33:33.620 --> 01:33:41.140
atlantic and pacific oceans whoa columbian law calls for prison terms of up to 14 years for the

01:33:41.140 --> 01:33:47.460
use construction marketing possession and transportation of semi submersibles that's

01:33:47.460 --> 01:33:54.980
obviously working great unmanned subs eliminate the possibility of a captured crew cooperating with

01:33:54.980 --> 01:34:01.780
authorities uh this is really interesting so i learned recently that um people were equipping

01:34:01.860 --> 01:34:10.020
planes with starlink by just like putting the antenna like in the window of the front and just

01:34:10.020 --> 01:34:15.220
pointing it up and then starlink because they're they have launched now i believe they've launched

01:34:15.220 --> 01:34:22.420
they've launched or they're launching their um like their their corporate jet service um starlink

01:34:22.420 --> 01:34:30.660
has apparently countered this by doing a speed check and making sure that your receiver your

01:34:30.660 --> 01:34:36.660
receiver unit is not moving too fast because there's nothing that would prevent the service from

01:34:36.660 --> 01:34:40.660
working so then you want because they because what they're gonna upcharge the airlines i guess

01:34:41.220 --> 01:34:47.540
yeah yeah well because the plane version to pay more yeah so uh starlink uh what's it called not

01:34:47.540 --> 01:34:54.500
commercial corporate corporate um airplane uh uh price here

01:34:54.900 --> 01:35:03.780
for corporate and private jet applications starlink aviation offers hardware for a hundred

01:35:03.780 --> 01:35:10.820
fifty thousand dollars with monthly service plans ranging from two thousand to twenty five

01:35:11.620 --> 01:35:17.540
thousand dollars which honestly as far as my understanding goes is it's about in line oh i

01:35:17.540 --> 01:35:25.140
thought it was cheaper uh i don't really think so for like a jumbo jet oh oh that maybe okay sure

01:35:25.140 --> 01:35:31.860
sure i'm not talking about the installation at all no idea on that possibly um yeah no but no it's

01:35:31.860 --> 01:35:37.220
apparently this is for business jets according to pilot mail says the ai summary so take that for

01:35:37.220 --> 01:35:41.380
take that for what it is you gotta watch them ai summaries business unlimited ten thousand dollars

01:35:41.380 --> 01:35:50.020
a month i think that's pretty competitive um so so yeah uh and the interesting thing about it is

01:35:50.020 --> 01:35:57.380
from my understanding this basically just comes down to like certification and regulation because

01:35:57.380 --> 01:36:03.700
from what i heard from my uncle nothing prevented anyone from just putting the like

01:36:04.420 --> 01:36:11.140
ground-based starlink in the in the cockpit and just pointing it up and getting starlink service but

01:36:11.220 --> 01:36:17.860
with all the like certification and everything uh the the prices do go up a lot because you're not

01:36:17.860 --> 01:36:26.100
allowed to just like install you know starlink in your own you know plane like you have to be done

01:36:26.100 --> 01:36:31.940
by a certified shop yeah not necessarily weird in a bad way but apparently they take like fire

01:36:31.940 --> 01:36:37.540
resistance extremely seriously like to the nth degree like if you have a fire on a plane that's

01:36:37.540 --> 01:36:42.980
apparently the worst i mean makes sense it kind of does make sense yeah it makes perfect sense to me

01:36:42.980 --> 01:36:51.060
yeah um yeah plane to plane just open the window they are just oxygen and fuel

01:36:52.100 --> 01:36:58.500
big containers of oxygen and big containers of fuel yeah everywhere the fire could go is really bad

01:36:58.820 --> 01:37:08.980
yeah oh boy let's see if i can find this yeah everything everything everything plane is just

01:37:09.940 --> 01:37:22.020
whatever it costs on land um times you know a bunch yeah now consider space oh dude the last

01:37:22.020 --> 01:37:28.660
place not ruined by capitalism space give them time if you don't know that reference look it up

01:37:29.380 --> 01:37:34.980
it's amazing it's amazing watching him like crack up as he says he's having such a good time

01:37:34.980 --> 01:37:38.980
do you want to you want to play another little game sure okay

01:37:38.980 --> 01:37:54.340
okay this is a usb outlet okay it has usbc at 15 watts and usba at 15 watts how much

01:37:54.340 --> 01:38:05.540
do you think this module costs this is for a plane uh yes this is from mcico.com true blue power

01:38:05.540 --> 01:38:09.940
assuming a very substantial price increase off of what this would cost a consumer

01:38:10.980 --> 01:38:16.660
i think i'm still going to be intensely low but i'm going to say 125 bucks

01:38:18.900 --> 01:38:27.780
oh well as low as four hundred twenty three dollars okay hold on what's like so adding usbc

01:38:27.780 --> 01:38:32.580
because the one beside it was exactly the same but no no usbc right so adding usbc is like over

01:38:32.580 --> 01:38:43.700
200 uh i think you mean as low as 213 dollars hold on but wait there's more okay let's say for

01:38:43.700 --> 01:38:49.860
instance because that's just regular old like crappy usbc where it's just doing the voltages

01:38:49.860 --> 01:38:59.220
and amperages of a usba port but it's just shaped like a usbc port huh okay how about the

01:38:59.940 --> 01:39:10.660
appropriately named 6430 360-21 this does usbcpd oh 100 watts at five amps and then usba at 15

01:39:10.660 --> 01:39:17.300
watts consider so the last one was 425 is that right something like that i'm going to say

01:39:18.660 --> 01:39:24.420
1100 oh you're actually high this time oh that's actually a much lower increase than i expected

01:39:25.060 --> 01:39:31.700
seven hundo i mean that's obviously absurd but i expected them to just go even harder dude that's

01:39:31.700 --> 01:39:38.340
like freaking wild it's like it's like more than 10x oh actually i don't know if that's more than

01:39:38.340 --> 01:39:45.060
10x because i was shopping for a usbpd like outlet to put in my wall the other day and they're

01:39:45.060 --> 01:39:48.980
pretty expensive that's why i thought it was gonna be so much more i'm actually surprised the lift on

01:39:48.980 --> 01:39:54.580
that is as low as it is wow luke's so out of touch john mesh says oh $700 that's actually a much

01:39:54.580 --> 01:39:59.860
better deal than i expected i wonder if that's the bulk deal if you get 10 000 of them oh dude

01:39:59.860 --> 01:40:08.260
as low as who knows amok you 100 what i don't know did that say oh no no no no no no no no no no

01:40:08.260 --> 01:40:14.420
that's that'd be crazy that'd be crazy that's all that's all absurd because like how much would

01:40:15.300 --> 01:40:23.220
like i'm i'm just thinking cables because you could just if you just mounted extensions

01:40:24.420 --> 01:40:36.020
into like a uh a 3d printed little square yeah it's like 30 bucks yeah like nothing

01:40:36.660 --> 01:40:44.020
she's wild um this is uh j richie 1984 says this is why experimental aviation is so much

01:40:44.100 --> 01:40:50.820
less expensive i can add a usb power outlet to a vans rv7 for like 30 bucks i'm not actually

01:40:50.820 --> 01:40:56.660
familiar with the vans rv7 so i looked it up and this is it popular two-seat single engine

01:40:56.660 --> 01:41:01.940
low-wing home-built aircraft kit known for its sporty handling and performance

01:41:03.140 --> 01:41:12.660
dude how is it that like i don't know how is it that i keep discovering stuff this cool that i have

01:41:12.660 --> 01:41:20.100
never heard of so if you want you can buy a kit airplane and fly it and it's known for it's sporty

01:41:20.100 --> 01:41:25.940
perform are you serious right now if you want some interesting info and i and i i can't explain

01:41:25.940 --> 01:41:32.340
why i know this but it's not for me i'll put that out there first bc actually has really fantastic

01:41:32.340 --> 01:41:38.660
laws for experimental aircraft they are allowed to be much heavier here than a lot of places in

01:41:38.660 --> 01:41:45.060
the states meaning you can put like better engines and better wings and more fuel than you can

01:41:45.060 --> 01:41:48.740
in the states it's a big problem in the states you you really get limited by weight really

01:41:48.740 --> 01:41:53.540
intensely and our limit is like genuinely i think like five times higher like it's not it's not a

01:41:53.540 --> 01:41:58.740
little bit of an increase it's very substantial and yeah they fall under experimentals i'm trying

01:41:58.740 --> 01:42:10.260
to look up the bc x like how much are these standard kits okay hold on standard kits here we go

01:42:10.820 --> 01:42:15.860
this means the fabrication work we do on the kit parts is less than 50 of the total required

01:42:15.860 --> 01:42:21.060
to complete the aircraft oh that's what makes it a kit so you have to oh good lord you have to

01:42:21.060 --> 01:42:31.140
provide the engine the prop instruments the avionics and the upholstery yeah uh okay standard

01:42:31.140 --> 01:42:43.380
build kit that's a plane that's a plane so that you get this in the mail justin can make it that is

01:42:43.940 --> 01:42:49.460
dude those panels don't even look bent you have to shape them yourself oh no you would um you would

01:42:49.460 --> 01:42:55.540
fold them and rivet them to this the submarine wouldn't you yeah we do not do the small trimming

01:42:55.540 --> 01:43:01.380
and adjusting jobs which the average home builder in the average shop can do just as well as we can

01:43:01.380 --> 01:43:09.220
okay trim in this context i think means like like like adjust the thing so that it like flies in a

01:43:09.220 --> 01:43:14.340
straight line that's what we mean by trimming right maybe the panels fit together i don't think

01:43:14.340 --> 01:43:19.940
that's what that means it says we do not do the small trimming and adjusting jobs that's making

01:43:19.940 --> 01:43:23.460
the panels fit together i think they're talking about the panels okay trimming the panels i'm

01:43:23.460 --> 01:43:32.500
fairly certain okay sure rv kits are kind of need another garage you'll find we want to continuously

01:43:32.500 --> 01:43:37.060
improve them the biggest improvement okay so where's where's the price trim is an active adjustment

01:43:37.060 --> 01:43:43.220
you do in flight that's a normal thing i'm just saying i'm just saying you do it yourself that's

01:43:43.940 --> 01:43:50.580
kit build aircraft okay so rv rv seven was the one that the person said here we go so kit kit

01:43:50.580 --> 01:43:58.100
order form okay what what do these cost like i have no idea throw some stuff in there yeah

01:43:58.100 --> 01:44:04.260
i can start clicking okay well i'll need one okay includes electric aileron trim okay yeah good

01:44:04.260 --> 01:44:08.900
wing kit i'll need wings probably probably from my aircraft could make your own

01:44:09.700 --> 01:44:16.180
oh you can get a quick build wing uh add quick build wing okay so this is basically

01:44:16.180 --> 01:44:23.380
oh oh yeah okay so that's another like five grand four grand four four four grand oh uh fuse

01:44:23.380 --> 01:44:29.940
a lodge kit i'm i might need a fuse a lot i need to sit somewhere yeah i received my center section

01:44:29.940 --> 01:44:36.340
with my wing kit so i have possession possession of it already i sure i guess it comes with my

01:44:36.900 --> 01:44:44.020
wing kit uh i don't need a quick build i'll build my fuselage okay i want to oh i want a sliding canopy

01:44:44.020 --> 01:44:52.340
obviously sliding is so sick obviously i have finishing kit whoa okay i mean uh spinner type

01:44:52.340 --> 01:45:01.300
um uh it's okay ship to wow seriously there you go i mean i'm less than brice well you don't have

01:45:01.300 --> 01:45:06.980
an engine yeah i'm i'm sure i'm missing some stuff you don't have a seat that was the price today it

01:45:06.980 --> 01:45:15.300
was actually 58 that's what you have to pay now yeah go back and look at the page the kit total

01:45:15.300 --> 01:45:21.540
amount of paid today uh there you are deposit my deposit you still don't have an engine no

01:45:22.340 --> 01:45:29.460
okay but still like realistically i'm up in the air for probably less than like my take in

01:45:30.420 --> 01:45:35.620
oh yeah like what does like how fast does one of these fly like is it like rv

01:45:36.900 --> 01:45:45.300
how is this a thing how is it how is your business making build yourself aircraft oh sorry so the

01:45:45.300 --> 01:45:51.540
maximum takeoff weight of 50 uh 544 kilograms or 1200 pounds you can have one or two seats

01:45:51.540 --> 01:45:56.500
and they must have a stall speed of 39 knots or less oh there are no design standards

01:45:56.820 --> 01:46:05.780
that's for ultra light airplanes but there's like lots of other things going on oh was this

01:46:05.780 --> 01:46:10.660
was this plane specifically on there don't get down down down down down down down down down down

01:46:10.660 --> 01:46:14.580
down down down down down down down down down down oh here we go uh oh no no i saw the seven and i

01:46:14.580 --> 01:46:19.700
thought we were i thought it was rv seven but it's beach 77 something but yeah like down in

01:46:19.700 --> 01:46:25.140
down in the, the America, the, um, the weight is much lower as far as I know,

01:46:25.140 --> 01:46:29.780
or at least in California, America gets weird about laws because their whole

01:46:29.780 --> 01:46:38.780
state system thing. So I don't know. Okay. So the Vans aircraft RV seven, uh, apparently has a top speed of 350

01:46:38.780 --> 01:46:45.740
kilometers an hour, which is something that is, man, that is so cool.

01:46:45.740 --> 01:46:48.780
Okay. What engine is that with though? Cause isn't, isn't the RV seven?

01:46:48.900 --> 01:46:54.820
Oh, that's, is that a kid or no? I think you'd probably have to have a like a rated max speed of the chassis.

01:46:54.860 --> 01:46:58.860
Like you couldn't just put any engine you want on it and go 900 kilometers an

01:46:58.860 --> 01:47:03.460
hour and rip the frigging thing apart, right? The AI overview seems to think it's legal in Canada.

01:47:04.860 --> 01:47:12.060
That's crazy. Who knows what that means. This actually explains something that I have wondered about a lot.

01:47:12.540 --> 01:47:17.860
Like, dude, Facebook marketplace is full of airplanes.

01:47:18.460 --> 01:47:25.180
And really dude, dude, because I've told you, like I, I, I train my Facebook

01:47:25.180 --> 01:47:28.420
marketplace algorithm to just show me the wildest stuff.

01:47:28.820 --> 01:47:31.500
And so I started clicking on like airplanes for a bit.

01:47:32.180 --> 01:47:36.860
There's so many aircraft on Facebook marketplace and this raises so many

01:47:36.860 --> 01:47:39.980
questions for me. Why do all these people own aircraft?

01:47:40.300 --> 01:47:43.820
Why do they buy and sell them on Facebook marketplace of all places?

01:47:43.820 --> 01:47:47.940
Like I just, I couldn't wrap my brain around it. Yeah, it's totally legal in Canada.

01:47:48.340 --> 01:47:53.540
I had no idea that the pricing for them was this accessible.

01:47:53.980 --> 01:47:58.020
Like, sure, it's really expensive, but when you compare it to what people will

01:47:58.020 --> 01:48:01.540
spend on like, you know, a boat or whatever, it's not that different.

01:48:01.780 --> 01:48:06.660
Whereas I just assumed like, oh yeah, you know, a car is expensive.

01:48:06.900 --> 01:48:10.380
A boat is more expensive and a plane is like way more expensive.

01:48:10.420 --> 01:48:13.500
I just, I just thought they were like way more expensive.

01:48:14.380 --> 01:48:17.420
But it's like, it's expensive.

01:48:17.820 --> 01:48:21.220
But yeah, compared to what people might spend on their boat and all of their,

01:48:21.260 --> 01:48:26.260
you know, um, like water skiing gear or, you know, whatever, right?

01:48:26.500 --> 01:48:30.220
Like, sure, cool.

01:48:30.300 --> 01:48:34.340
What are we supposed to be talking about? Why don't we do sponsors? Hold on, I found you an engine.

01:48:34.820 --> 01:48:38.060
Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What am I going to, what am I going to pay for it?

01:48:38.100 --> 01:48:41.580
It's compatible. A like-home-engine. Uh, I'm not seeing it.

01:48:42.540 --> 01:48:45.500
Oh, a hundred grand.

01:48:46.020 --> 01:48:49.060
Yeah. That's the most powerful engine I could find that works in that.

01:48:49.060 --> 01:48:54.660
Oh, you could get a rebuilt one for like 55 grand. Dude, you could totally be in the air for like Taycan price.

01:48:55.060 --> 01:48:58.820
Two hundred and fifteen horsepower. I say do it. Two hundred and ten to two hundred and fifteen horsepower.

01:49:00.060 --> 01:49:02.820
This is not, this is not me. I'm not doing this.

01:49:03.420 --> 01:49:06.900
You're not doing this. No, I know this stuff because of someone else, not me.

01:49:07.140 --> 01:49:10.620
I bet, I bet, I bet Luke's getting into aviation.

01:49:10.660 --> 01:49:15.980
No. That's that date. I'd love to. He runs a site called Floatplane and he just couldn't handle it anymore.

01:49:15.980 --> 01:49:18.460
See, that's the problem. This wouldn't work for me because I can't land on water.

01:49:19.460 --> 01:49:25.180
So I could put you in touch with my old neighbor who used to get crashed out of Floatplanes and rebuild them and then fly them.

01:49:25.180 --> 01:49:28.220
And that is not a made-up anecdote. That is real.

01:49:28.620 --> 01:49:32.620
Why do you always know a guy? You literally know a guy. I've had a very exciting life.

01:49:32.620 --> 01:49:35.740
I've told you about him before. Yeah, I think you have.

01:49:36.420 --> 01:49:40.180
But yeah, from what I'm sure there's some other one, but from like literally

01:49:40.220 --> 01:49:44.660
two minutes of research, that's the most powerful engine that fits in the RV seven.

01:49:45.300 --> 01:49:49.060
I mean, he was excited that he found a replacement plastic light cover and it

01:49:49.060 --> 01:49:54.420
was only 80 US dollars. It's about the size of like less than your fist.

01:49:54.620 --> 01:49:59.340
How happy would he be with 3D printing now? Because I think with these experimentals, it would not be rated for flight.

01:49:59.780 --> 01:50:03.260
But, but I mean, these were, these are like plane planes.

01:50:03.300 --> 01:50:09.020
Oh, yeah, we're still in the home. Maybe the RV seven is a plane plane because I was wondering, maybe you could

01:50:09.020 --> 01:50:12.780
get like a crashed out flow plane, fix it, get it reclassified and certified

01:50:12.780 --> 01:50:16.860
as a experimental, and then you'd have a flow plane for, you know, a couple of

01:50:16.860 --> 01:50:20.340
hundred thousand dollars. That's still a lot of money, though.

01:50:20.380 --> 01:50:25.260
I also wonder, and years of time to reassemble it yourself.

01:50:25.260 --> 01:50:29.220
Yeah. So the RV seven is technically considered an experimental aircraft.

01:50:29.460 --> 01:50:33.900
Yeah. I wonder what it would take to get something reclassified as experimental.

01:50:34.620 --> 01:50:39.980
Oh, you just scream it. I think you'd have to substantially rebuild and fit within the requirements,

01:50:39.980 --> 01:50:47.980
like the weight limits and stuff like that. Does it have to be built from nothing? Dealing with plane, pontoons, retrofit limits might be a little difficult.

01:50:48.620 --> 01:50:54.780
Yeah. I don't know. Sorry, I'm just signing into Facebook to show you guys all of the airplanes.

01:50:57.060 --> 01:50:59.460
Not that I'm not enjoying it thoroughly.

01:51:01.140 --> 01:51:04.340
But what, what, what topics is this? Was this a merchandise? I don't know who cares.

01:51:04.340 --> 01:51:07.140
Was it a topic? Yeah. What even is this show, Luke? It doesn't matter.

01:51:07.660 --> 01:51:09.740
This was you talking about Starlink.

01:51:13.380 --> 01:51:17.060
I have, I've just stopped trying to pull you back on top.

01:51:17.060 --> 01:51:20.780
There's no point. I was just, I was just curious. We've got to do sponsors, though.

01:51:21.540 --> 01:51:27.900
So at some point, at some point, but we got to, we got to stall. So Linus can sign into his Facebook account after having to go through.

01:51:27.900 --> 01:51:33.540
Hangar rent prices. Yeah. Well, I mean, this guy basically, he had like five acres behind us and he

01:51:33.540 --> 01:51:37.420
basically had a double airplane hanger on his property to rebuild these in.

01:51:37.660 --> 01:51:41.380
How insane would it be to just take the wings off and park it at your house?

01:51:43.340 --> 01:51:47.300
Some of them actually do have foldable wings. They fold up. Foldable, yeah.

01:51:47.300 --> 01:51:50.780
Or you can take them off. Yeah. That's a flipped over truck.

01:51:50.780 --> 01:51:53.380
Is that for sale? Are these Hummels doing what I think they're doing?

01:51:53.860 --> 01:51:54.900
No, they're not.

01:51:56.900 --> 01:52:04.540
I didn't see that at first. Is that the pool mobile from the Simpsons?

01:52:05.540 --> 01:52:09.620
It's a truck. It's a tray. What? Oh, I thought it was a pool.

01:52:09.620 --> 01:52:11.740
Yeah, it looked like a pool. Oh, here's a.

01:52:13.900 --> 01:52:16.900
I want to do my. My Facebook.

01:52:16.900 --> 01:52:19.780
Look at the Jeep. Look at the Jeep. It's just honest.

01:52:22.140 --> 01:52:24.340
Please, what's that thousand dollar Jeep? I got to know.

01:52:25.300 --> 01:52:31.340
Wow. Actually, you put some body kits on those Jaguar F types and they look sick.

01:52:31.340 --> 01:52:35.820
Just saying I don't like them by default. Do you have to go get it yourself thousand kilometers?

01:52:36.460 --> 01:52:39.020
It's flipped over delete if not okay.

01:52:41.340 --> 01:52:44.460
Not one picture. You just have to go get it yourself.

01:52:44.460 --> 01:52:47.900
Oh my goodness. It is really just one picture. That's amazing. That's it.

01:52:47.900 --> 01:52:51.420
You just yeah, you just go get it. I guess dude. I told you.

01:52:51.420 --> 01:52:59.500
I told you. This is unbelievable. Marketplace, I train my Facebook marketplace to be just the wildest.

01:52:59.500 --> 01:53:04.300
So I would pay money for that. I wish you could import someone's like algorithm training commercials.

01:53:04.300 --> 01:53:08.220
That would be so cool. Well, Mike, what is that?

01:53:08.220 --> 01:53:12.940
Definitely not creepy monkey.

01:53:13.500 --> 01:53:13.980
Fifty.

01:53:16.700 --> 01:53:18.300
Probably collectible.

01:53:20.060 --> 01:53:23.660
Probably not. Oh my goodness.

01:53:25.340 --> 01:53:31.420
Also, you have like just incredibly weird things and then like really expensive cars.

01:53:31.420 --> 01:53:35.020
Yeah, yeah. Oh man, this is great. At home business.

01:53:35.020 --> 01:53:40.300
So it just shows like candy stuff. Here's an original series. Tricorder functional prop replica.

01:53:40.300 --> 01:53:44.220
Because yeah, that makes sense for me to be shopping for, I guess.

01:53:44.940 --> 01:53:48.540
Here's some stuff from Scrapyard Wars. No spoilers though.

01:53:48.540 --> 01:53:52.140
Nope. Here's a 3D LED dance floor.

01:53:52.140 --> 01:53:53.740
Sure. I'll take two.

01:53:56.700 --> 01:54:00.140
What is happening? What the heck?

01:54:00.140 --> 01:54:03.660
At least, you know, at least they put up a real price for it. Yeah. I'll give them that.

01:54:03.660 --> 01:54:07.420
Yeah, to their credit. They did. They did do that. They did do that.

01:54:07.420 --> 01:54:09.260
Oh, oh gee, McDonald's stuff.

01:54:11.180 --> 01:54:16.060
I don't like that. I want to do some clown whippets.

01:54:16.060 --> 01:54:16.700
Oh, thank you.

01:54:19.820 --> 01:54:23.020
Do you want a nacho and cheese warmer?

01:54:23.820 --> 01:54:27.420
Oh my goodness. Anyway, anyway. Is that just...

01:54:27.420 --> 01:54:30.620
Oh, I thought it was ranch. Anyway, airplanes.

01:54:32.300 --> 01:54:36.060
No, I forget. Oh, I forget what airplanes are under. Okay, so here.

01:54:36.060 --> 01:54:41.260
Here, here, here. I'll show you. I'll show you. You wouldn't believe how many planes are on Facebook Marketplace.

01:54:41.820 --> 01:54:45.580
Like here's just a casual Floatplane.

01:54:45.580 --> 01:54:48.780
Dude, like people put up... Oh, Beaver's a classic. Yeah.

01:54:48.780 --> 01:54:53.180
Yeah, buddy. Oh, yeah. It's like the first time cars were listed on eBay.

01:54:53.180 --> 01:54:57.180
Like who's listing a $600,000 plane on Facebook Marketplace? Love me a good Beaver, you know?

01:54:57.820 --> 01:55:02.700
That's so wild. Why would I put it... Oh my goodness, dude.

01:55:02.700 --> 01:55:06.220
Dude, what a... No, reupholster that. What a choice.

01:55:06.860 --> 01:55:10.140
What a choice. You can ride your Harley to the dock. I'm super into...

01:55:10.140 --> 01:55:16.140
And then ride your Harley plane through the sky. Pontoon planes and loud motorcycles.

01:55:16.940 --> 01:55:21.580
Oh, dude, dude. Dude, Floatplane, $160,000.

01:55:21.580 --> 01:55:25.420
Let's go. In Maple Ridge, BC. Why do they have this?

01:55:27.020 --> 01:55:32.540
Air. Why? Well, the thing is, the cool thing about having a Floatplane

01:55:33.260 --> 01:55:37.900
is you just drive it on the water and then you can take off from whenever you want. I mean, in fairness, some of these are...

01:55:37.900 --> 01:55:42.060
Thanks, Dan. Some of these are obviously like fake.

01:55:42.060 --> 01:55:48.460
It makes it cheaper. You don't have to store it in an airport. Like, you can't call this a biplane if it goes three different ways.

01:55:52.780 --> 01:56:01.660
Here, fixed-wing ultralight. Can I interest you in an $1,800 aircraft from a 100-mile house?

01:56:01.660 --> 01:56:03.340
Would you get in this? No.

01:56:05.420 --> 01:56:08.700
Is that how you do your trimming?

01:56:09.980 --> 01:56:13.980
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, need some TLC.

01:56:13.980 --> 01:56:16.220
Just needs a tune, bro. Just needs a tune.

01:56:17.260 --> 01:56:23.980
Oh, my God. Oh, my God. But yeah, like, dude, you could be flying an aircraft for...

01:56:23.980 --> 01:56:27.740
Okay, hold on a second. Why is that so cheap? Nose actuator rod broke.

01:56:27.740 --> 01:56:31.820
Attachment point to downlock, torn off. Okay, then this one needs some work.

01:56:31.820 --> 01:56:35.020
Okay, let's find the cheapest one. The cheapest functional plane.

01:56:35.020 --> 01:56:39.740
That just, like, is ready to fly. Beautiful, well-built, great reputation.

01:56:39.980 --> 01:56:47.180
In USD, $65,000, you could literally pick this up in, like, 30 minutes.

01:56:47.900 --> 01:56:52.380
And it works? Apparently. Like, is that crazy or what?

01:56:52.380 --> 01:56:55.580
That is pretty nuts. That's, like, $65,000.

01:56:55.580 --> 01:57:01.180
$65,000 US dollars. You are in an airplane. Now, obviously, this is, like, what I was talking about.

01:57:01.180 --> 01:57:06.940
I don't know if I want a $65,000 airplane. No, that's fair enough. But this is, like, what I was talking to you about a while back,

01:57:06.940 --> 01:57:13.260
with that, like, that lead on the gamer jet. Where I was, like, I guarantee you, it's way cheaper than you think.

01:57:13.260 --> 01:57:17.900
And you were, like, nah. And I was, like, yeah, it seats $9,000,000, and it's a million dollars.

01:57:17.900 --> 01:57:22.300
And you were, like, what? So, with this and with that...

01:57:22.300 --> 01:57:27.500
It's very weird. The truth is, the bulk of the cost is in the operating of it.

01:57:27.500 --> 01:57:31.500
Yeah. You got to have the hang. You got, unless you're working on it yourself,

01:57:31.500 --> 01:57:35.580
unless you're even allowed to work on it yourself, which for the experimental ones, I guess you'd be able to.

01:57:35.580 --> 01:57:40.060
But for, like, a commercial one, I don't know. The cost per hour of flying them is insane.

01:57:40.060 --> 01:57:41.980
The engineering, the fuel.

01:57:43.820 --> 01:57:47.660
But anyway, I just, I got, I got a kick out of the fact that you can get

01:57:48.540 --> 01:57:53.900
a functioning airplane for $65,000, like, literally less than a cybertruck.

01:57:55.420 --> 01:57:57.660
And you would look, like, way less of a tool.

01:57:58.540 --> 01:58:03.660
You could, like, take it off off the back of a cybertruck. Dude, don't give people ideas like that.

01:58:03.660 --> 01:58:06.940
You know they'll want it. If you drive the cybertruck fast enough down the runway.

01:58:07.900 --> 01:58:18.060
Does the plane break through the top of the cybertruck before you get off the end?

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The highlights for me are definitely the awkward energy.

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It's funny. I saw a lot of comments saying that the video was not that awkward.

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It's amazing what the magic of video editing will do. You say the edit really made it feel not that awkward.

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It was really awkward in a bad way

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for probably the first hour and a half of the shoot. In a bad way.

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And then it got way more awkward and it came full circle to in a good way.

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For the rest of the shoot, it was a lot of fun.

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We had a total blast. Natalie's upgrade.

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No, it was all on me, like 100%.

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Sometimes I just blurt things out and I don't know if they're going to work.

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And sometimes the stuff I say is super weird.

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And then I'm just like, yeah, we should probably cut that in the edit.

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The piano joke was genuinely like probably one of your your best pun jokes ever made.

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Like it got me pretty good. It got me. I couldn't even do the delivery of it.

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number one for P number two for have to go like for little kids.

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All right.

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Yeah. What do you want to talk about?

02:03:14.620 --> 02:03:16.860
Should we find some good news? What do we got?

02:03:17.660 --> 02:03:24.460
Not much. Oh, we have Microsoft adding a free option to Windows 10 extended security updates program.

02:03:24.460 --> 02:03:29.740
Yeah, Windows 10 users have a new option to receive security updates beyond the October 2025

02:03:29.740 --> 02:03:35.020
end of life. The previously announced ESU program allows users to pay $30.

02:03:35.740 --> 02:03:40.860
Or, and I think this is the free option, 1,000 Microsoft reward points.

02:03:40.860 --> 02:03:44.380
No, no, that's one of the old paid options. Oh, yeah.

02:03:44.380 --> 02:03:47.580
And that would give you an additional year of Windows 10 security updates,

02:03:47.580 --> 02:03:58.140
making it safe to keep using, I guess. Yeah. The new third option requires users to sync their PC settings to one drive via a Microsoft account

02:03:58.140 --> 02:04:04.060
using the Windows backup app and presumably giving up some privacy in return for updates.

02:04:04.060 --> 02:04:08.300
Oh, this is very judging from the enrollment screenshot.

02:04:08.300 --> 02:04:12.700
PC settings may also include installed apps and credentials.

02:04:12.700 --> 02:04:17.020
Pretty interesting. So we've talked a fair bit.

02:04:17.020 --> 02:04:23.740
In fact, we had a video, I think, on Techquickie, Linus Windows Free,

02:04:23.740 --> 02:04:30.460
about how Windows is effectively, yeah, here we go.

02:04:30.460 --> 02:04:35.020
So this Techquickie video from five years ago is like, why Windows is free now?

02:04:35.020 --> 02:04:43.020
It's not free, but it's clear that Microsoft's efforts from the late 90s and the 2000s

02:04:43.980 --> 02:04:49.500
to prevent people actively, like aggressively prevent people from pirating Windows,

02:04:50.060 --> 02:04:53.820
have been discontinued for ages at this point.

02:04:53.820 --> 02:04:59.100
You literally can go to Microsoft's website, download a Windows ISO, and install it on a

02:04:59.100 --> 02:05:04.220
computer and just say, I don't have a product key and run Windows.

02:05:04.220 --> 02:05:09.260
And it will, as far as I can tell, other than not letting you set some personalization options.

02:05:09.260 --> 02:05:13.260
Big background. And you can still set a background by just right clicking an image and then setting

02:05:13.260 --> 02:05:16.860
his desktop background. It doesn't block you? Yeah, you just can't do it in the personalization menu.

02:05:18.940 --> 02:05:25.100
Unless that workaround has been patched or whatever. But the point is, they just clearly don't really care.

02:05:25.100 --> 02:05:29.820
And I think this is yet another illustration that they just don't care.

02:05:29.820 --> 02:05:35.340
Like, you could have an old Windows license that you've upgraded to Windows 10

02:05:35.340 --> 02:05:40.140
that they would offer to upgrade you to Windows 11 if you met the hardware requirements

02:05:40.140 --> 02:05:44.140
and now they're basically even saying, okay, forget it. Don't even bother with the hardware requirements.

02:05:44.140 --> 02:05:48.060
You can stay on Windows 10. Just please, please, please, please, please have a Microsoft account.

02:05:48.060 --> 02:05:51.420
Because at the end of the day, Microsoft is going the direction of basically everybody

02:05:51.420 --> 02:05:55.660
else where it's free to use and you give up your privacy.

02:05:55.660 --> 02:05:58.700
Harvest your data. Yeah, you give up your data in return.

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So what would you do? Right? Because your choice is, Linux is not an answer.

02:06:05.580 --> 02:06:09.580
Hold on. Hold on. Why is Linux not an answer?

02:06:09.580 --> 02:06:13.420
Linux is not an answer because you're- Because there's whole government switching over here right now.

02:06:13.420 --> 02:06:18.220
Because you are a kid and all your friends play a game that has kernel-level anti-cheat.

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There, that's why. So what would you do? You're running Windows 10 because you like Windows 10 better and Windows 11 is bad.

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I would never under any circumstances run Windows 11 because you're a gigachat like DOS Dude 1.

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Okay? Your options are, run it without security updates, upgrade to Windows 11,

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or sign into your Microsoft account and sync all your stuff.

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Let's say those are your three options, which would you take?

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Windows 11. You would just go Windows 11. And just pirate it.

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Oh, interesting. And then juice customizations.

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Okay, I didn't give you those options though. So you're, you play- But I'm a kid, so I have gained the option of pirating it.

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You said I'm a kid. Going back to when I was a kid, that was a low bar to walk over.

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Like didn't require a hop. You had to step up a little bit.

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Okay, people are questioning what DOS Dude 1 is.

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DOS Dude 1 is not a what? DOS Dude 1 is a man.

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And we did a collab with him recently, upgrading the storage on a MacBook.

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It was super cool. You guys are definitely going to want to check that out.

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Okay, I mean, yeah, I think we are long overdue.

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I don't want no security updates on my operating system. No, I think we're long overdue for like a de-bloating Windows episode.

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Because there's- Do you remember the Windows 9 thing? I do.

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That guy reached out recently. Really? Yeah. Oh, interesting.

02:07:53.340 --> 02:07:56.540
Yeah, I'd be, I'd be down to do another like- Apparently he's still doing stuff.

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De-bloat your Windows. Let me, I don't have an easy way to access the message now, but yeah.

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That's okay. Dan will email you a reminder. I don't think Merch Message Dashboard is like super, super busy tonight.

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I think he's good. Is that okay, Dan?

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Thank you. Don't email it though. Thank you. Thank you.

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That's a weird way to put it. Well, no, he just-

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I want to do a poll. I want to, I want to hear from the people and I'm not giving them a custom option.

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Dan, can we make a poll? So Windows 10 raw dog, Windows 10 signed in, and Windows 11.

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Those are the only options. So you have to pick one of those three options if you answer the poll.

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So do you have to buy Windows 11? No, because I assume that you can upgrade to it.

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Let's say you can upgrade to Windows 11. Windows 10 raw dog?

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Yeah. Windows 10 signed in.

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Yep. And Windows 11. Okay. I want to know which one.

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All right, we're hitting Floatplane with a poll. It's not Windows 10 signed in.

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It's Windows 10 with your PC settings shared. Yeah, so what we talked about, like synchronizing all your crap.

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I'm just saying it's more than signed in. Yep.

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Okay, live. Okay, here we go. Here come the results.

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Oh, I'm for crying out loud. I will find a way to do this.

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Hey, look at that. Oh my god. Good software, Microsoft.

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What is happening right now? We need to get power toys on that laptop for you.

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Yeah, probably. Yeah, most people, we've got 70% of the vote right now on Windows 11.

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Yeah, they're just like, okay, forget it, I'll do it. So I mean, this is how they eventually get you.

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I mean, I remember Windows 10 raw dog for me. I suspect the Windows 10 raw dog people are like me.

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You have problems. Would you actually, you'd go no security updates?

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Oh yeah. Instead of going to Windows 11. And then when Windows 12 comes out, because it's the next one,

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after the one that's missed, it's going to be even more unidentified.

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Dude, there's no way that Windows 12 is actually good. I'm using Windows 11 on this computer and my workstation.

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And maybe I don't hate it as much because when it first came out,

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I didn't know how to neuter it. And now I know how to neuter it. And so now it's okay.

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Are you going to access the Windows updates despite

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not supposedly being able to? Is that your plan? Or are you actually just going no security updates?

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My dad still uses Windows 7. Like why?

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Because he doesn't like the new ones. But it doesn't matter though.

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I don't like Windows 11 very much. I mean, he doesn't like Windows 10.

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I keep telling him, do Windows 10. Here's my question though. Like I recently did a switch to Mac challenge.

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And for the first couple of days, I hated my life. And then it just didn't matter.

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Like I don't use my operating system. Windows 10 is, in my opinion, the most

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it doesn't matter operating system Microsoft has made.

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Sure, but like just doesn't matter at any point.

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It'd be just any of them. They just, I don't know, man, they just,

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they don't really matter that much. I even try new features and they just,

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in my opinion, aren't very good. So then I just don't use them. So I just don't really use the Microsoft stuff

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that comes from the operating system and it's fine. Like they have this new, is it on this one?

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They have this panel when you open the start menu that is like you can use Microsoft link

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and link your phone, except it like kind of sucks.

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You know what, maybe part of my thing is that I just have my like ad block built into my brain.

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I don't even notice a lot of the annoying things about Windows. That one was a major change.

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It added a whole extra like, was this on Windows 10?

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Windows 11. Oh, this is on Windows 11. It didn't happen to this computer though.

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So like, I don't know. Yeah, I don't know what to do. Why did they make the start menu worse?

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I mean, but you can fix that. I mean, yeah, I mean, I learned how to fix everything.

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So now it's like, okay. Yeah, but you can do that in Windows 11 and have security updates.

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That's what I mean. That's what I mean, like. So then what I'm asking is,

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why would you go Windows 10 raw dog? I'm surprised you would just be like,

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oh, just have no security. And if there's no massive Windows 10 vulnerability,

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I don't believe it, is able to be tackled by roaming the internet,

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bought things, I'll just get wrecked. I'm surprised by that answer, Dan.

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At work, no. At home. Good.

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I let my dad use Windows 7.

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I'd use Windows XP. Okay, can't you just like... If I still could.

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What's the equivalent of like, window blinds these days? Like, can you just window blinds Windows 11

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to Windows 7 and then have him not notice? Like, couldn't you just do that? Yeah, no, there's a functionality thing.

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The split between control panel and like the new settings menu

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is getting more split in Windows 11.

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There's just some proclivities that I don't particularly like, but... What does your dad do with any of that stuff?

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Come on. How often does your dad go into the control panel? I don't know. He browsers the Google Chrome.

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Browses Google Chrome. Why does he need security updates?

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Like, we don't care.

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Is this really a problem for people? Like, do they care that much about security updates?

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Yeah. Yeah. I mean, many part of it is me being traumatized

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by like Blaster back in the day. Do you remember when you couldn't so much

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as install Windows XP and make it to the desktop

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if you had like a network, an active network connection

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before your entire computer would just be taken over by just bots that are just finding any connected PC

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on the internet and infecting them? Maybe that's because...

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Maybe because the pair of us like lived through that and we're just like, eh, it's fine.

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We've dealt with this. Why would that be the takeaway? That wasn't fine.

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You couldn't even use the computer. Yeah, I actually don't believe that happened. Because we've always been fine.

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I don't know. Oh, I don't know.

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This is like the X-y thing all over again.

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I think we should move on. I'm going to move on. My guess was that most people that voted for that category

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were people that are leaning towards or already in the Linux camp.

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That makes sense. I would not expect most people to vote

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for no security updates. No, but it didn't. But like 22, I think it was 22% did.

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Yeah, it was quite high.

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And I suspect that's people just leaning towards abandoning. You shouldn't be me.

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Because there's a lot of that right now. Yeah. I've been trying to get more and more used to alternatives.

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You shouldn't hate an operating system enough

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to do what me and my father do. My father and I do. Yeah, like your dad should honestly just use Linux.

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Yeah, he actually do builds Mint. Why is he even dual boot?

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Why, why, why, why? What is, how does Windows 7 make sense here?

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Some program compatibility. I mean, he could triple boot.

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Or he could run a VM. Yeah, that sounds like effort. It's easier to run Windows 7.

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It doesn't, to me, it sounds easier than a VM.

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No, I'm moving on. Cloudflare is changing the rules of the internet.

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Cloudflare has announced that is now blocking AI crawlers

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by default and is introducing a new paper crawl model

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in which AI services can pay content creators

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to allow their content to be crawled.

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Cloudflare infrastructure and services are utilized by almost a quarter of the internet.

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And bots and crawling traffic can significantly increase

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the costs of running websites. And recent studies have found that more than 50%

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of internet traffic is AI bot driven in 2025

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with projections anticipating a rise to 90%

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by the end of the decade. Yeah, the internet's fake. What?

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Yeah. Half? I've known this for a while. I did not know that.

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I did not know it was that high. Yeah, dead internet theory stuff is like pretty real.

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Like half of the internet traffic? Well, yeah, because I'm not even talking about internet traffic.

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I'm talking about internet interaction right now. Internet traffic, that's not surprising to me,

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literally at all. The internet interaction though,

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if you spend some time on like the dumb one letter website

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and you actually like actually dive into replies

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and actually read stuff. It's painful. So much of it is fake.

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It's painful. Crazy. Even YouTube comments these days.

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Incredible amount of like back in the day, it'd be like the bed in his tank or whatever

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that weird thing was. Yeah. There's a lot of spam. Yeah.

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Click my PC. Stuff like that. Yeah. Lots of that.

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But these days there's a ton of Bob.

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Yeah. Bob's tank army. Bob's tank army. That was it. There's a ton of fake ones now.

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It's weird. It's odd. Watching them get in loops of talking to each other

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is entertaining too. It's like, oh, this like random tweet or whatever

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has like a billion comments. And we don't know why. And then you see that there's one comment

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with a reply to it. And they just keep replying to each other for like ever.

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It's like, oh, OK. Cloudflare says that site publishers

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will have full control over the AI blocking and the paper crawl settings

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while AI services will be able to choose if they want to pay the crawling prices set

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by the publishers. The feature is currently in private beta

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and Cloudflare customers can apply for early access.

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Our discussion question then is how do you think LMG will utilize these new features

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and go? We signed up for the beta. We're not in it yet, but we signed up for the beta

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just to kind of see what's going on. It's interesting. I think there are downsides to things like this.

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It's not like search companies aren't going to be aware of who's turning this on.

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And it's not like search companies wouldn't be able to hurt your search ability.

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Not only do I think it's possible, I think it's so likely that it's close to guaranteed

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that that would happen. That's my vibe check right now. I don't technically know,

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but I really think that would be a thing. It would be very, very easy for them to do

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in regards to impacting page rank. However, I mean, they can't derank everyone

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and Cloudflare is enabling it by default.

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Yeah, I think there's also like...

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I think there's a lot of interesting bits. Like if you block crawlers on your website

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because you're like the 3.1 millionth of a cent

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that I'm going to get per crawler interaction is not worth the money.

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I'd rather people just actually come to my website.

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If you do that, it also opens up a really weird gambit

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where people could prop up a website that just copies your stuff and then they allow crawlers

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to come for a fee, whatever else. There's a lot of like, this is...

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I think this is a good route to be very clear,

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but this is going to start a very weird interact...

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Conrad, stop. This is going to...

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I don't know what he's doing. This is going to start some really weird interactions

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on the internet of how things work. Now, to be clear, I do not think this AI summary...

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No one ever has to click on a website again. Garbage is a good idea.

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Yeah, it's not sustainable. So we need something. If this works, awesome.

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But this could have unintended consequences, I guess is what you're saying. Practically everything has unintended consequences.

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Anything can be gamed. Yes, and people will attempt to game this.

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And I don't know, what's interesting to me, I guess, is that this might just be too little, too late.

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Most of the clean training data is already out there.

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Like I've heard that companies are basically guarding

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they're uncontaminated by just AI contributions,

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actual human-generated training data, which, man, could have really fascinating implications

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for the evolution of communication. Because the way that we communicate with each other

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are slaying and our grammar. It changes and evolves over time.

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But if we've got these time capsules that we use to train AIs

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and people are effectively using AIs to process information

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and send it to each other, I do wonder if there's going to be a stagnation there.

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You know how right now there's a fairly dramatic difference between written word and spoken word?

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I don't know, is there? I think so. Oh, okay, sure.

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You and I are not very good use cases for this, because I think we often just write how we talk.

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But for a lot of people, there is an actually pretty substantial gap

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between how they write and how they talk. I'm bringing up a text chat.

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Okay, who's someone I talk to?

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Nope, too X-rated.

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Just call it Twitter.

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Okay, okay, okay. So here's a...

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Yeah, no, I think I basically just write how I talk. So this is to one of the writers off hours.

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I said one attempt... The writer's not a good example. I said one attempt... Well, I don't know, but we were just chatting in text.

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I know, but it's... You're giving an example of another person who is through their work highly incentivized

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to write how they talk. I mean...

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Got it. Yeah, they don't care.

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So I said one attempt adds a ton of scope

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at a time when we are objectively very busy. Send it away to expert and test.

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Can be done in an afternoon. F*** around with the Tormach as a day shoot.

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We can hash this out during work hours, though. Hope your evening is good.

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Sorry for the slow reply. V busy today. So I guess I'm a little bit more point form in text,

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but I don't... Yeah, pretty similar. Like, what do you mean? Like, how different are you thinking things are?

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For a substantial amount of people, it's very different.

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Like, they'll sometimes use different language.

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Someone's saying professional communication. Yeah, but this happens in non-professional settings as well.

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This is like a thing. Man, who do I talk to non-professionally?

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I don't have a social life, man. I got nothing.

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I see.

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Okay, what are you...

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Trying to not use the AI summary. At any rate, the non-contaminated stuff is basically...

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Where I was going with that is the non-contaminated source data for training is pretty much

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maximized now. You kind of can't get uncontaminated new data.

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So I do wonder how much this is even going to slow down

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the actual training of AI models.

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Probably not at all. But this could maybe slow down their intake of new information.

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But even then, like... Yeah, because there's extremely valuable companies

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currently popping up and their entire argument is that

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they have clean training data instead of junk training data.

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And that's off of data that's already out there. A massive percentage of the internet has been farmed.

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Yeah, I mean, it hasn't just all of it?

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That's a tough thing to say, but likely. Probably.

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But the one kind of saving grace is if we're going to look

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at sites like HouseFresh, new products are going to come out.

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Sure. So you would still need to crawl a site like HouseFresh

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if you want to have up-to-date product recommendations.

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So for those of you who haven't watched every WAN Show ever, HouseFresh is an air purifier...

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Or LCT YouTube video. Specialist reviewer.

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And we collaborated with them recently on some of the challenges that they've faced around being pressured by

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air purifier manufacturers to change their reviews.

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And also it's pressure that they're under financially

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from the decoupling of impressions and clicks

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that has taken place over the last little while where people are getting the...

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They're getting an impression for HouseFresh, but they're not clicking through to see an air purifier

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review because there's like an AI summary and they just don't have to.

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So yeah, they wouldn't be able to get information on

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new pages, but I just wonder if they'll care.

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I mean, the AIs are so inaccurate anyway. And it also starts an arms race.

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Yeah. We're just kicking off another crawlers versus

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anti-crawler technology.

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I mean, if anyone's going to keep out ahead of it at Cloudflare, I mean, if they can handle DDoS on a massive

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scale the way that they do, that's a pretty dedicated bunch.

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They're the right team to be in front of it. We're not sponsored by Cloudflare.

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Just be secret. Have we ever done anything with them? Don't think so. Oh yeah, okay.

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I mean, maybe. Yet, we'd be open to it. I'd be open to it.

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I'm open to it. We've been working with them. Yeah, in some capacity or another.

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Incredibly long time. Quite a long time.

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Good luck, Cloudflare. We're actually rooting for you on this one. Yeah, big time.

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Yeah. Big time, big time, big time.

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Oh, we have another announcement. On the content side for Floatplane,

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I don't know where that was supposed to transition from. Cool. You can check out my 44-minute sit-down discussion with Taryn.

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Do you want to bring it up, maybe? Sure. Okay.

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Yeah, cool. We talk about a lot of things, like some high-level company stuff,

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like what the f**k he's been doing so far, because viewers don't really see most of what he's doing

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or what he's done since starting two years ago.

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We also talked about how after Yvonne met Taryn formally,

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she said I have a type, which was a weird thing to hear.

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It's not our most liked video, but it is our most viewed video by far,

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ahead even of the Smash Champs grand opening video.

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How do we know that? Do we have a view counter now? Since when?

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We have a ways to... No, no, it's not there. So it's not on there?

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No. Oh, it's a good like-dislike ratio, though. People seem to like it.

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Okay. We have ways of getting information. Well, how do we know?

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Are people... Does it just seem very viewed because everyone's archiving it

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because they're worried it'll be taken down? No, no, no, no. It's...

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There's... Our view counts are not accurate,

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because technically everyone's view counts are guesses

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and we just haven't invested literally anything in guessing accurately.

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But we guess similarly all the time.

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I see. So it's comparable to our own stuff.

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Yeah. Oh, okay. So like we know that, you know?

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But like... Yeah, the exact number that we have is not accurate.

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But unless there are like extremely weird, extremely unique interactions around this one particular video...

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Got it. Then it's probably accurate that it is high, you know?

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Next week there will be two amazing Linus videos.

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One is called I Spent 24 Hours With Linus.

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When did that happen? It's apparently a fun day in the life of Linus

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to see what I do on a somewhat average day.

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How do I not remember this? I thought this was in Taiwan, which wouldn't be a somewhat average day.

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I don't know when it was. And the last time we heard about this,

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I pushed back on it because I was like, there is no way because you didn't like stay in...

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Like 24 hours, it's clickbait. I mean, they could have hidden in my closet.

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I wouldn't have probably noticed. Yeah, that seems to be... It's a bit of a problem, man.

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Yeah, I know. That I don't think it's that.

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We also have the long-awaited Linus reacts to staff

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describing their first interactions with him. That's coming out Monday.

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So if you ever... I'm really excited for that one.

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If you ever wanted to see what Floatplane is all about, now is the best time...

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I don't think so. I don't think so. Because you can get early access to deals for Lime Day

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and amazing exclusives at LMG.gg.

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All right. What do we got left? We got some topics to minimize.

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You can donate your idle bandwidth Yeah, what is this? to help archive the internet.

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To make sure that the internet never forgets.

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Yes, Redditor U slash the curious bread

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posted a call out on the LTT subreddit for archive team warrior.

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Archive team warrior is a software set up to run inside a virtual machine

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that downloads sites and uploads them for archiving.

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How it works, according to the curious breads post, is that there is an IRC chat where the internet archive team

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hand selects web pages with an expiration date. They set up a list for each project.

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You can select the project you want to support from your end.

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It downloads the pages and after each page is done,

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it gets sent off to the internet archive and the copy is deleted from your end.

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Lightweight, late on internet usage and big impact. That actually sounds very intelligently built.

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I'm not like I shouldn't sound like I'm that surprised,

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but that's smart. I like that you get to pick.

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That was the big thing for me. That's really cool.

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There's a link to the archive warrior virtual application page,

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which we'll post in the chat. I'm dumping in the Floatplane chat right now.

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I don't have the other chats open. Dan just stepped away.

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Yep, way to go, Dan. Good producer. But it's wiki.archiveteam.org.

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Producing P. PHP slash archiveteam underscore warrior.

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Yeah, I don't know. I just thought that was pretty cool.

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That is really cool. Yeah, I am a little confused

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as to how it saves any bandwidth for them if I download the page and then I upload it to them.

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Maybe I thought you could explain it to me.

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No, I don't actually have an answer for that.

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Is it just that it's easier to scrape? Is it actually the bandwidth that is saving

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or is it the processing? I don't know. I don't see how it saves any processing either.

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Well, it doesn't have to go to those websites and try to grab the data.

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They're coaching them. But they have to get it from us.

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Or it will only use your bandwidth. The only thing I can think of

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is that it would be down to it being hard for them to scrape it.

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Yeah, distributing it. Yeah. Yeah, so it's just distributing the crawling

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and downloading of the assets. It doesn't really look in here like it says,

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hey, the reason for this is to save us bandwidth.

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Yeah, looks like it might be a rate limiting thing. That makes a ton of sense.

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Yeah, sites often block server IPs or rate limiting. Okay, that makes sense.

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I think our notes were just maybe not 100%.

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Maybe a little bit confused.

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Yeah, very cool. I don't know. I saw this and I was like, that seems like a neat project for people to participate in.

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Here's another neat project. The US House of Representatives has passed the big beautiful bill.

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Here are some rapid, rapid fire tech implications.

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Tax credits for semiconductor firms that are building capacity in the US

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could rise to 35% from 25%.

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The $7,500 EV tax credit will be gone by September 30th.

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So if you were planning to pick up a new EV that is eligible for that tax credit,

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you are going to want to do that pretty quick. Clean energy tax credits.

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So for like wind and solar projects will be phased out by 2027,

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which it has been speculated could result in higher energy costs in the longer term.

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And this one's a bummer. 800 megahertz of radio spectrum

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in about the six gigahertz range is expected to be auctioned off by 2034,

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which could impact the six gigahertz Wi-Fi range,

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which is I think going to be a mega downer for American friends.

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Yeah, that's yikes. That's a big yikes. I was at Natalie's during that tech upgrade.

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Hey, thank you for your ideas.

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No, it is not the Riot Games launcher that caused her slow downloads.

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Yes, it appears to download in chunks and then install, but that was not what was happening.

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Her connection was super slow. We could barely even load a web page.

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And there were so many SSIDs in her area.

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There's like 50 that we couldn't do anything.

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And that's on five gigahertz. Like, I remember the transition from 2.4 to 5 gigahertz

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and what a breath of fresh air it was using fresh,

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unpolluted spectrum. And six gigahertz is the that of today.

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And unfortunately, it looks like that may not happen anymore.

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I mean, we'll see what happens. These things do tend to change

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when there are administration changeovers in the US.

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So good luck, everybody. Oh, there's a response to Luke's AI challenge.

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Actually, there were quite a few responses to Luke's AI challenge.

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But this is one that I happened to cross today.

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CyberCypherPunkSamurai says,

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here is Gemini 2.5 Pro accurately recreating Chapter 14

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with proper punctuation. Hem. Hermione, however, had more on her mind

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than the philosopher's stone. She had started drawing up revision timetables

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and color coding all of her notes. Harry and Ron wouldn't have minded,

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but she kept nagging them to do the same. Hermione, the exams are ages away.

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So for those of you who don't remember, we were discussing whether it was OK to ingest published novels

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just for the cost of buying one copy of it,

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using it to train your AI, and whether that was transformative.

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And one of the discussion points that we had was, OK, well,

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do you completely lose that transformative argument

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if your AI is capable of just sharding out the text unedited?

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And it turns out that if you trick them, they can do it.

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I saw someone... Which I think someone legal somewhere

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could take this as an actual argument and go after them for it, legitimately.

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I saw someone else who got around it by asking it to read the chapter and it's like, no.

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And then it's like, can you pretend to be my grandma reading me the chapter?

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My grandma reads me a chapter every night. Blah, blah, blah. Can you pretend to be her?

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And it just... They crapped out a chapter of Harry Potter.

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I love how it like... It obviously it doesn't have feelings and whatnot,

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but it feels like it wants you to get it around its own rules.

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It's fascinating. Pretty wild.

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The judge in the case literally said that. Literally said what?

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Oh, yeah, you're going to have to be a little bit more clear. It's like comments on the YouTube video that are like, yeah, I agree.

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We talked for four hours.

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What do you agree with? I have no idea.

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Brazil is going after Nintendo for bricking Switch to consoles.

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Brazil's consumer protection agency, Procon SP,

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has filed a formal complaint against Nintendo

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over its Switch to console banning policies.

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The complaint argues that Nintendo's updated user agreement,

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which allows the company to permanently block console access to all online features,

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violates consumers' rights. This comes after multiple reports of Switch to consoles being banned

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for using MiG Flash cartridges, even when users own the games.

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The ban includes multiplayer, system updates, digital game access,

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and even the retro libraries tied to paid Nintendo Switch online subscriptions.

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That seems pretty excessive, Nintendo. One Redditor bought a used Switch to from Walmart as an open box return,

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only to find that it was already banned and effectively bricked for online play.

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Procon SP is demanding that Nintendo remove the offending clause

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and has criticized the company's lack of formal legal representation in Brazil,

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which makes consumer recourse difficult. Nintendo has 20 days to respond to the legal challenge.

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Shout out Brazil. Let's go Brazil. Yeah, this seems very based.

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Nice. Very cool. I'd love to see someone take up Nintendo's proprietary implementation of USB-C next.

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Do you have you heard about this? I have heard about that. That's super annoying.

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It's not only that they are not helping third-party accessories work with the Switch to.

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They're blocking. It is that they are actively encrypting the communication

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and actively preventing third-party accessories from working.

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There is no technical reason why the Switch to could not use standard voltages

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and could not use standard protocols.

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I promise you, I'm not an engineer.

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But what I can tell you is there are if Apple can do it, Nintendo can do it.

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Yeah, a unique username says, and they're docs.

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Apparently there is one third-party doc maker that works,

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but even they came out and said, okay, yeah,

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but nothing would prevent Nintendo from changing the encryption key

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with a firmware update. So we're not like guaranteeing anything, but yeah, it works right now.

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I don't know how they got it working. Like they must have a mole in Nintendo or something.

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I have no idea.

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Cool from Brazil though. The USB-C thing, I don't know the rule of the law that you use USB-C stuff,

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but I feel like it violates the intention.

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Certainly the spirit of the law, yes. That's what I was looking for, spirit of the law.

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And hopefully that you can step in on that a little bit, because everyone using the same connector,

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but not being able to actually use it because you locked things off,

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defeats the whole purpose. And honestly, it actually just makes things worse in a lot of ways.

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So hopefully that's not allowed to continue to be a thing. Well, and the really goofy part is on the Switch One,

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it was no problem for you to just plug the Switch One into a wall wart and use it,

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although apparently it could wear it out faster or something.

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But then if you took that same wall wart and plugged it into a doc,

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and then tried to use the Switch on that, it wouldn't work.

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Can we just not that?

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Seriously, yeah. Why? Like I know you got to sell $40 AC adapters, but

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are the like $80 games not enough?

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How much blood do you want from our stones?

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No, I was thinking like, no, that's too cheap. It's a hundred something.

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Yeah, I know I was converting to you.

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Oh boy, this is interesting. The Supreme Court in the U.S.

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has upheld a Texas law that would require ID to visit some websites.

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Last Friday in a six to three vote, the Supreme Court upheld a Texas law aimed

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at blocking minors from accessing online adult content,

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which on the face of it sounds like a good thing.

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I don't think most minors need to be seeing that kind of content.

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However, like many potentially well-intentioned policies and legislation,

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this one is full of holes.

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And no, not all of them can be filled because we can't get to the websites to see it.

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The Free Speech Coalition had challenged the Texas law due to worries about the First Amendment

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being infringed upon. Justice Clarence Thomas stated he didn't believe that this restricts

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adults free speech rights, saying adults have the right to access speech obscene only to minors,

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but adults have no First Amendment right to avoid age verification.

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Okay, even though this is now overturning decades of precedent and has the potential

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to upend access to First Amendment protected speech on the internet for everyone, children

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and adults alike, said Samir Jain, Vice President of Policy at the Nonprofit Center for Democracy

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and Technology. Yeah, this is because back in 1996 and 2004, as well as many other times,

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there were rulings that federal law at the time said it would be unconstitutional to have

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restrictive measures on content filtering. Several websites that would be required to

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have this age verification check are simply not running in Texas, as well as in several other

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states because they don't want to be the ones responsible for holding people's private information,

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like driver's licenses, passports, and whatever other ID would be used to verify the user.

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See, that's the problem with this law is that... I don't want that either.

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The government is not doing the work to make it manageable. They don't have a nationwide ID

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program for every man, woman, and child that is properly administered and properly safeguarded

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and whatever. And I'm not even advocating for that as a solution here. I'm just saying that they are

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not doing the work and not putting in any kind of infrastructure that would enable these organizations

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to perform the identity and age verification checks that they are demanding that they perform.

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They are putting all of the liability on these private enterprises,

02:43:04.300 --> 02:43:10.700
all of whom are going to have to create from scratch some kind of solution to collect this

02:43:10.700 --> 02:43:18.700
information, validate it, and store it, which is insane. I'm assuming what they're hoping,

02:43:18.700 --> 02:43:23.740
if I can try to find an argument for them right now, I'm assuming what they're hoping

02:43:24.300 --> 02:43:31.500
is that the free market will make a stripe-like thing where the liability goes on a third-party

02:43:31.500 --> 02:43:36.940
company that is very highly security-focused. Sure. I mean, that worked great for the credit

02:43:36.940 --> 02:43:45.500
monitoring industry. Equifax is awesome. TransUnion too. I love them both. Dude.

02:43:45.500 --> 02:43:51.980
What I'm kind of surprised. TransUnion's site is so fucking garbage. They had a wrong address

02:43:51.980 --> 02:43:58.700
in my history and I went in and tried to change it. And once you try to change it,

02:43:59.420 --> 02:44:05.340
first of all, it took me like three times on the phone with them to stop my account from just

02:44:05.340 --> 02:44:10.540
randomly locking when I would try to get into it. And then we finally managed to get me into the

02:44:10.540 --> 02:44:16.540
account. And then it's like a separate portal to go and register for a change. And then when I went,

02:44:16.540 --> 02:44:20.620
I finally got an email saying that there was an update to my change request. And then when I

02:44:20.620 --> 02:44:25.180
tried to log into it, the page would error out every time I would try to go to it. I still

02:44:25.180 --> 02:44:28.220
don't know what happened with that, but I have never lived in Edmonton.

02:44:31.020 --> 02:44:39.660
It's been a wild saga. Yeah. The thing that surprises me the most is that there wasn't

02:44:39.740 --> 02:44:45.500
one of these sites already queued up by one of the people trying to push for this bill.

02:44:45.500 --> 02:44:49.020
That's the thing that surprises me is that there isn't a solution that already at least sort of

02:44:49.020 --> 02:44:54.940
exists. I don't think they've thought that far ahead. There's a really interesting point at the end

02:44:54.940 --> 02:45:00.620
here. I think you're giving them too much credit. I think this is just classic. Will somebody please

02:45:00.620 --> 02:45:06.700
think of the children? I know, but as Elijah says at the end of this topic, I swear this

02:45:06.780 --> 02:45:13.660
prom topic comes up every month. We've talked about the Texas one in particular,

02:45:13.660 --> 02:45:20.140
I think like three or four times. This is crazy. I don't have another solution to accomplish the

02:45:20.140 --> 02:45:24.780
thing that they want other than just clicking yes on a website. And I don't think there is one.

02:45:25.340 --> 02:45:35.180
I don't think so either, but that's the issue. You're supposedly anti-government

02:45:35.180 --> 02:45:42.780
overreach and anti-regulation except when it's convenient or in this case like

02:45:42.780 --> 02:45:48.700
inconvenient. There isn't even, there is no plan. There's no concept of a plan for how this could

02:45:48.700 --> 02:45:54.220
possibly be implemented. And look, I'm not saying that the adult entertainment industry

02:45:54.220 --> 02:46:00.940
is precious and should be protected at all costs at all. I'm just saying that if your argument is

02:46:01.020 --> 02:46:08.300
that they need to do this thing and you have literally no idea how you expect them to do it,

02:46:08.860 --> 02:46:10.700
how do you, how do you legislate that?

02:46:13.820 --> 02:46:18.140
I like, I can't think of another example of something this stupid. And like if you're,

02:46:18.140 --> 02:46:22.300
yeah, cause I can imagine legislating something where you don't have the answer for it. I can't

02:46:22.300 --> 02:46:27.340
imagine that being a thing in a variety of scenarios, but in this scenario, the thing

02:46:27.340 --> 02:46:33.580
that you're trying to tell them to do is putting serious security risks on everyone involved.

02:46:34.540 --> 02:46:39.340
Well, yeah. So it's like you kind of know the only direction that they can go in and you know

02:46:39.340 --> 02:46:51.500
that it's bad, which seems not good. Yeah, I got to wonder what lobbyist is pushing this.

02:46:52.300 --> 02:46:59.500
Like who is, who is asking for this? I don't know, genuinely unsure.

02:46:59.500 --> 02:47:03.020
Helen Lovejoy, that's the only possible thing I can think of. Who's that?

02:47:03.980 --> 02:47:09.020
Won't somebody please think of the children? Oh, that's actually, yeah, that is actually

02:47:09.020 --> 02:47:15.500
here. Wow, you're so informed. Am I? On the Simpsons? I'm sure, yeah. Yep. Yeah, pretty,

02:47:15.500 --> 02:47:19.260
pretty much. I mean, I haven't seen, I haven't kind of watched any of the last probably 10 or 15

02:47:19.260 --> 02:47:23.340
seasons, but... You and Sir Dankpods should sit down and chat about the Simpsons. There's only

02:47:23.340 --> 02:47:31.260
eight seasons. That's when the show ended. Why? Is he just like full of Simpsons references or what?

02:47:32.940 --> 02:47:40.220
He used to make like... Oh man, what was it even called? Simpsons Wave. Is that what it's called?

02:47:40.220 --> 02:47:44.460
Is it the music? What is Simpsons Wave? Simpsons Wave, yeah. Like .WAVV or like what are we...

02:47:44.460 --> 02:47:49.980
Basically come up with this? I have no idea who invented Simpsons Wave. Oh, Dankmus?

02:47:51.100 --> 02:47:53.340
Dankmus, that was it, wasn't it? Oh, Dankpods.

02:47:55.420 --> 02:48:00.380
Isn't Dank... That's what I said to you earlier. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I thought you said DMS.

02:48:00.380 --> 02:48:05.660
No, no, no, no. Oh, okay, okay, okay, okay. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no, I know about

02:48:05.660 --> 02:48:11.020
Dankpods and Loving the Simpsons or whatever. What are we looking at here? That's right. Okay.

02:48:11.020 --> 02:48:18.060
Yep, that's a thing that exists. Oh, this is like, this is peak stuff. Don't, don't knock it till

02:48:18.060 --> 02:48:24.300
you try it. Not I, yeah, I'm okay. Yep, that's good. This is like the good part of humanity.

02:48:25.500 --> 02:48:29.900
If, if, if all this news in the WAN Show makes you feel bad about being alive,

02:48:30.940 --> 02:48:38.860
any stuff like Dankmus, okay, should restore some of it. I am, I am fully unironic.

02:48:38.860 --> 02:48:46.140
The art brain that that man has is amazing. He's great. That's good stuff. Crump with me, Linus.

02:48:49.580 --> 02:48:55.660
Deeply uncomfortable. Apple has introduced tiered commission and tax for app developers.

02:48:56.700 --> 02:49:02.300
In response to the EU ruling that Apple must allow app developers to use all alternate payment

02:49:02.300 --> 02:49:07.580
solutions, Apple has made changes to the store services fee paid by app developers in the EU.

02:49:08.140 --> 02:49:13.100
The fee is now broken into two tiers. And if you elect to link to outside payment options,

02:49:14.060 --> 02:49:19.980
you are locked to tier one, which gets only a subset of store services. So tier one,

02:49:20.540 --> 02:49:27.500
five percent commission on in app purchases, limited store services with the TLDR being,

02:49:27.500 --> 02:49:35.260
no automatic updates, no search boosts, no personalized recommendations, no editorial

02:49:35.260 --> 02:49:44.300
features, no custom product pages, no insights and analytics. At tier two, you must exclusively

02:49:44.300 --> 02:49:50.220
use Apple's payment system, 13% commission on in app purchases, and you get the complete set of

02:49:50.220 --> 02:49:56.220
store services. In addition, Apple is rolling out a new fee, the core technology commission,

02:49:56.220 --> 02:50:02.380
which allows Apple to take a 5% bonus on outside purchases made through app store apps.

02:50:03.180 --> 02:50:09.580
At the time of writing, the EU commission is yet to respond, but if you thought

02:50:09.580 --> 02:50:16.700
Epic CEO Tim Sweeney would say something, you're right. He weighed in on ex Twitter,

02:50:16.700 --> 02:50:20.940
saying Apple's new Digital Markets Act malicious compliance scheme is blatantly

02:50:20.940 --> 02:50:26.380
unlawful in both Europe and the United States and makes a mockery of fair competition in digital

02:50:26.380 --> 02:50:34.780
markets. Thanks, Tim. I feel like I always have to disclaim this. I don't agree with Mr. Tim Sweeney

02:50:34.780 --> 02:50:42.300
on everything, but boy, do I ever agree with him on basic fucking logic when it comes to

02:50:42.300 --> 02:50:51.500
monopolistic behavior in online marketplaces. I feel like he has been a voice of fresh air,

02:50:52.060 --> 02:50:59.900
just kind of saying what should be obvious to everyone that the emperor has been naked for years,

02:50:59.900 --> 02:51:07.500
and if what Microsoft was doing in the 90s and early 2000s was antitrust, this is like

02:51:08.140 --> 02:51:17.420
uncle trust. You've got to be kidding me. Yeah, uncle trust. Yeah, like antitrust,

02:51:17.420 --> 02:51:23.020
but like stronger. Oh, that could probably beat antitrust in an ARM wrestle. Gonna die earlier,

02:51:23.020 --> 02:51:28.620
though. Probably. For sure. Probably. Sometimes questionable on holidays. Heart condition.

02:51:28.620 --> 02:51:33.260
Yeah. Facebook is training meta AI with your unpublished photos.

02:51:36.940 --> 02:51:42.700
Last week, TechCrunch reported that some Facebook users are seeing a pop up when posting to stories

02:51:42.700 --> 02:51:48.780
asking if the user would like to opt into cloud processing. The pop up explains that by allowing

02:51:48.780 --> 02:51:54.780
this option, Facebook will generate new ideas from your camera roll like collages, recaps,

02:51:54.780 --> 02:52:00.140
AI resilings, or photo themes. For this feature to work, Facebook will upload media from your

02:52:00.140 --> 02:52:06.700
camera roll to its cloud on an ongoing basis. According to the terms of service, meta will

02:52:06.700 --> 02:52:12.300
have the right to retain and use any personal information that is shared with them. Wow,

02:52:12.300 --> 02:52:19.260
that's pretty cool. Holy crap. How does it keep getting worse, Luke?

02:52:23.500 --> 02:52:25.180
Billions and billions of dollars.

02:52:32.540 --> 02:52:38.540
That's a legitimate answer. When is it enough? Like when does Mark Zuckerberg own enough of Hawaii?

02:52:39.100 --> 02:52:43.500
Never. I genuinely don't think that has a cap. He wants all of Hawaii?

02:52:45.100 --> 02:52:51.020
I, for people that their brain work that way, in my opinion, I think it would be just...

02:52:51.020 --> 02:52:54.060
Like is he racist? The universe. He doesn't want Oprah to live there too?

02:52:57.420 --> 02:53:03.100
It's a valid question. I think it's everyone else. Why does he want Hawaii to have only white people?

02:53:03.420 --> 02:53:08.860
Specifically himself, actually Asian too. I'm sure his wife would be allowed to be there.

02:53:11.980 --> 02:53:18.220
Why does he feel that way? I don't know. Is this just how he is? Are all lizards just racist?

02:53:19.660 --> 02:53:24.380
If I say that, does that make me racist against lizards? They just want to be warm. Species.

02:53:24.380 --> 02:53:25.740
They just want to be warm.

02:53:34.060 --> 02:53:35.980
Oh, that's pretty good.

02:53:40.380 --> 02:53:44.860
MysteryIon says you don't have to be racist to not want Oprah near you.

02:53:46.140 --> 02:53:50.860
I actually have no idea what her controversies are, so I'm gonna stay out of that one.

02:53:50.860 --> 02:53:52.220
I don't care.

02:53:54.940 --> 02:54:01.260
Yeah, okay. Let's probably switch over to after dark. Maybe we got a few merge messages today.

02:54:01.260 --> 02:54:03.580
All right, cool. Let's do that.

02:54:10.380 --> 02:54:13.980
Oh boy. Okay, merge messages.

02:54:13.980 --> 02:54:19.420
Do you guys just... There's... Hold on. There's 12,500 people watching live on YouTube.

02:54:19.420 --> 02:54:22.940
Presumably there's some stragglers who still watch on Twitch for some reason.

02:54:24.620 --> 02:54:29.260
Like five. Maybe not for long. Probably thousands more watching on Floatplane. I have to ask you this.

02:54:29.340 --> 02:54:38.380
Honest question, okay. Do you guys tune in weekly so that you'll be there the moment my career ends?

02:54:39.500 --> 02:54:42.140
Is that the idea? I think a lot of people used to.

02:54:43.340 --> 02:54:49.980
That's why I arrive every week. I think there was a period of time where that was like absolutely a very significant part of it.

02:54:52.540 --> 02:54:57.020
Yeah. So I gotta...

02:54:57.020 --> 02:55:01.260
I don't know if that's as much of a thing anymore, but I know that was a thing.

02:55:01.260 --> 02:55:04.620
People at the company used to watch it.

02:55:04.620 --> 02:55:08.220
Well, now we tell them what we tell people online during the show.

02:55:08.220 --> 02:55:13.260
But people also watch to be like, is there going to be a work to come to Monday?

02:55:13.260 --> 02:55:15.420
Do I have to come to work to Monday? Do I have to come to work Monday?

02:55:17.820 --> 02:55:20.540
I came across this on the subreddit recently.

02:55:21.660 --> 02:55:28.380
Yeah, I've seen this. This was funny. Um, I had never actually rewatched the clip.

02:55:28.380 --> 02:55:32.860
Really? I mean, dude, do I really have to like relive?

02:55:32.860 --> 02:55:35.900
Dude, I thought it was so... I watched like so many reactions.

02:55:35.900 --> 02:55:52.460
I thought it was so funny. I had a great time with this. This guy. This guy's face.

02:56:01.020 --> 02:56:08.860
So they were very funny. So I watched. I had to sit through the agonizing.

02:56:08.860 --> 02:56:12.540
It's so long. It's like, it's not actually that long.

02:56:12.540 --> 02:56:15.660
It's like two minutes. But it feels like forever.

02:56:15.660 --> 02:56:21.500
But it feels like a lifetime of like... Imagine how long that felt for me in the moment.

02:56:26.540 --> 02:56:31.100
I'm ragging through my brain like, am I even right about this? Like, because there's no way he would say that.

02:56:31.100 --> 02:56:34.140
I'm trying to like, yeah, it's like...

02:56:35.260 --> 02:56:38.460
We were actually like the fact that you knew...

02:56:38.460 --> 02:56:41.660
Because I don't always monitor chat. So like...

02:56:41.660 --> 02:56:44.940
Oh, that wasn't from chat monitoring. No, no, I know. I know.

02:56:44.940 --> 02:56:48.780
I'm just saying, I don't always monitor chat. So if you hadn't known...

02:56:49.340 --> 02:56:54.140
Yeah. Yeah, we would have made it to the end of that episode.

02:56:54.780 --> 02:56:58.860
And then once we stopped airing... Back was not an option.

02:56:58.860 --> 02:57:01.580
There was no way. Yeah. There was no way. Yeah.

02:57:02.220 --> 02:57:05.260
Just like... Yeah, it was tough. You know that I actually...

02:57:05.260 --> 02:57:09.580
I look back at that like fairly fondly and I like watching reactions to it and stuff.

02:57:09.580 --> 02:57:13.340
You know what does suck though? Yeah. It's people that'll recognize me in public

02:57:13.340 --> 02:57:15.980
and be like, oh, the hard art thing!

02:57:17.500 --> 02:57:20.540
That's like, why are you saying that so loud to me?

02:57:20.540 --> 02:57:24.860
That's all TikTok knows this from. That's what people know me from.

02:57:25.660 --> 02:57:27.980
All my most viewed stuff is that clip.

02:57:28.700 --> 02:57:31.900
So like, it will genuinely... I'll be in an airport

02:57:32.700 --> 02:57:36.140
and someone will walk up to me with hundreds of people walking by

02:57:36.140 --> 02:57:39.900
and be like, oh, the hard art thing! Oh, that was crazy!

02:57:39.900 --> 02:57:43.980
I'm like, wow, I really don't want this right now.

02:57:47.100 --> 02:57:50.700
Please stop. Like it happens at conventions. It happens at airports.

02:57:52.700 --> 02:57:57.340
Like if it's just us, sure. But it's never just us.

02:57:57.660 --> 02:58:01.100
I didn't have my face shown.

02:58:03.100 --> 02:58:08.300
It's rough, man. Yeah. And then like the stuff that comes after it.

02:58:08.300 --> 02:58:11.100
Luke Hardar left Renear!

02:58:14.540 --> 02:58:17.900
The stuff that comes after it, where they're like, oh, I can't believe you saved that,

02:58:17.900 --> 02:58:23.100
whatever, that part is always said at a significantly lower volume than the initial bit.

02:58:23.100 --> 02:58:29.660
You scream that for a second. Like it actually happens a lot and it's very disturbing.

02:58:29.660 --> 02:58:34.060
I don't know when people are just going to yell hard R at me. It's the guy, it's a hard R guy.

02:58:34.060 --> 02:58:39.100
As long as you're not in the States, you're probably okay.

02:58:39.100 --> 02:58:42.460
Like in terms of people understanding it.

02:58:42.460 --> 02:58:47.660
Yeah. But like in America, if I was just like hanging around

02:58:47.660 --> 02:58:52.300
and someone referred to me like that real loud, I probably wouldn't be able to hear it.

02:58:52.460 --> 02:58:55.580
Referred to me like that real loud, I probably wouldn't be stoked on it.

02:58:55.580 --> 02:58:57.340
No, it's not comfortable. Yeah.

02:58:58.620 --> 02:58:59.500
Like at all.

02:59:03.100 --> 02:59:06.460
Yeah, I uh, yeah, it is hilarious though.

02:59:06.460 --> 02:59:11.900
I do it like anytime anyone links me, a like somebody reacting to you or talking about it,

02:59:11.900 --> 02:59:16.780
whatever, I love it. I thought Moise, Charlie's Moise criticals.

02:59:16.780 --> 02:59:20.860
His was hilarious. Highlight of my career. Yeah, yeah. Did you ever watch that one?

02:59:20.860 --> 02:59:25.740
I got to Mike Wachowski it. Just tiny little, tiny little postcard of my head.

02:59:26.540 --> 02:59:29.740
It's great. Let me see if I can find it. Can't be that. Yeah.

02:59:29.740 --> 02:59:33.020
Lightest tech tips almost ruined his career. He was like hours.

02:59:34.220 --> 02:59:37.580
It was really fast. He was really fast. I mean, he just normally is really fast.

02:59:37.580 --> 02:59:39.740
Oh yeah. But yeah, this one was so funny.

02:59:41.500 --> 02:59:45.580
He talks about how he was, you should go watch it if you're interested, but he talks about how he was watching

02:59:45.580 --> 02:59:49.340
and he's been apparently watching for a long time, like just the channel and he was just like,

02:59:50.940 --> 02:59:55.580
so they're just like, oh no, it's all over.

02:59:58.140 --> 03:00:02.460
I haven't watched it forever, but his, his recount of this was genuinely hilarious.

03:00:03.420 --> 03:00:08.140
It was also fun to hear him say that because I, I first saw his channel

03:00:08.140 --> 03:00:12.460
when I was in university. So like UVic University, like,

03:00:13.020 --> 03:00:16.700
so that's kind of a cool crossover thing. But yeah, it's very, very funny.

03:00:17.100 --> 03:00:20.700
Anyways, we're still here.

03:00:22.220 --> 03:00:22.780
For now.

03:00:26.940 --> 03:00:28.860
Dorkier people have tried to cancel us.

03:00:30.300 --> 03:00:32.140
He didn't, he didn't try to cancel us. No, no, I know.

03:00:35.180 --> 03:00:38.300
Oh man. beer, but you're going to fall down the reaction rabbit hole.

03:00:38.300 --> 03:00:41.740
It's pretty funny. It's yeah, it's pretty good.

03:00:43.500 --> 03:00:47.100
All right. Hey, Dan.

03:00:47.100 --> 03:00:49.020
Yeah. Hit me. Okay.

03:00:50.380 --> 03:00:54.620
Hello, Dinah's a Duke and land. I just got into hockey recently

03:00:54.620 --> 03:00:58.220
and I know you nice Linus had made a joke

03:00:58.220 --> 03:01:01.260
about being a fan of the Oilers before, but what are your favorite teams?

03:01:01.260 --> 03:01:05.580
Let's go Kraken for me. To me, picking my favorite hockey team

03:01:05.580 --> 03:01:09.180
is like picking my favorite corporation because they literally.

03:01:09.180 --> 03:01:13.580
That's what they are. They literally like very literally

03:01:14.060 --> 03:01:17.820
our corporations. So you're just like, when you,

03:01:17.820 --> 03:01:21.980
when you buy the merchandise, you are supporting,

03:01:21.980 --> 03:01:26.460
you know, a lot of the really positive things that sports teams do bring to their communities.

03:01:26.460 --> 03:01:30.940
They bring people together. They often contribute to their communities

03:01:30.940 --> 03:01:35.260
charitably like Canuck Place here in Vancouver

03:01:35.260 --> 03:01:41.260
does a lot of really great work. You are contributing to the livelihoods

03:01:41.260 --> 03:01:47.260
of not just the players that play on the team, but also the the farm system that filters up

03:01:47.260 --> 03:01:50.860
to the big league teams. There's a there's a lot of you're contributing

03:01:50.860 --> 03:01:53.980
to the businesses that rely on, you know,

03:01:53.980 --> 03:01:58.940
people leaving the stadium after the game to go get dinner or drinks or whatever it is.

03:01:59.500 --> 03:02:02.940
There's a lot of really positive things about sports ball.

03:02:04.060 --> 03:02:08.220
But you are also funneling money into the pockets

03:02:08.220 --> 03:02:11.580
of multi gazillionaire owners.

03:02:11.580 --> 03:02:14.780
And you're doing that at a greater rate

03:02:14.780 --> 03:02:17.180
than you are probably any of the other things.

03:02:18.220 --> 03:02:23.180
And so for me, I really enjoy the sport.

03:02:23.180 --> 03:02:26.700
I am a fan of hockey. I love the tension.

03:02:26.700 --> 03:02:32.060
I love the incredible talent of just amazing,

03:02:32.060 --> 03:02:38.860
amazing players. I love the speed of the game, the intensity.

03:02:38.860 --> 03:02:42.220
I can appreciate the talent and the hard work

03:02:42.220 --> 03:02:46.700
and dedication that goes into being so, so very good at it.

03:02:48.460 --> 03:02:52.460
But I have a real hard time being that invested in a team.

03:02:52.460 --> 03:02:55.980
So for me, a big part of the joy of watching hockey

03:02:55.980 --> 03:03:00.300
is watching, you know, with someone who's really passionate about someone.

03:03:00.300 --> 03:03:03.340
So I'm at a point now where I can kind of cheer for whatever team.

03:03:03.340 --> 03:03:07.660
So I just get behind whatever, whoever David Goche wants to win.

03:03:09.500 --> 03:03:12.940
It was genuinely more fun watching the finals because he was there.

03:03:12.940 --> 03:03:18.380
Oh, yeah. David's so passionate. And he's very well informed, not just about the game itself,

03:03:18.380 --> 03:03:21.660
but like all the players and their, their like history

03:03:21.660 --> 03:03:25.020
and like, you know, whether, whether they're, you know,

03:03:25.020 --> 03:03:28.620
dirty players or whether they're people that we can feel good about cheering for.

03:03:28.620 --> 03:03:33.500
Yeah, hearing him like ranch about that one guy was, was, I don't remember his name, but it was, it was cool.

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I, yeah, I have no interest in watching on my own. I absolutely, I don't generally like TV shows.

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I love Shorzy.

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And that's like about a hockey team.

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So that's cool. I, I've been considering trying to like,

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recruit a couple of people to also do this with me

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because I'm not interested in just doing it by myself, but the like kind of local hockey team

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trying to get season tickets for that some year and like actually trying to go to every game,

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I think could be kind of fun by local hockey team.

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I do not mean the Canucks.

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Yeah. I also, I really like, you know, interesting storylines.

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Like I was, I was rooting for the Oilers

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because I don't know they're the Canadian team or something

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last year. And, but I was also pretty happy to see Paul Maurice

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lift the cup. This was the very unfortunate record that he had last year

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until he won. He had the most wins of an NHL coach without having a cup.

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Just like, you could be like the greatest coach that never actually lifted.

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The winningest without championship coach

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is not the thing that you want to go down for. No, it really isn't.

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So I, you know, felt pretty good for, you know, for him for finally getting there.

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And this year, I just, I really, you know, you saw all the passion from, you know,

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dry saddle and McDavid. I really wanted to see them lift it. They couldn't get it done.

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Maybe next year we'll have to see how the off season goes.

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Yeah. I love the game. Don't love the, the corporateness of it.

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I stopped following super hard.

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Back in the, I forget which lockout there was, there was a lockout and it was basically

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like I was just, as a fan, I was just kind of tired

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of like millionaires versus billionaires. This, this crashed out a lot of people

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that I know from watching. And I just didn't care who was right anymore at that point.

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Yep. I was just not interested anymore. Was it 2011?

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I don't remember exactly, but I know, I used to know quite a few people that would watch

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and like almost all of them stopped watching after that, to be honest.

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Just 2012, 2013 was the, was the lockout.

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It canceled many of the games of the 2012 season, including the All-Star game and shortened

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the regular season to just 48 games. What was that tournament they did this year?

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That was incredible. Okay. That was like peak sports. New answer, the four nations face off.

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Yeah. Whoa, dude. That was like, that was, it's amazing how much harder

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the players play with their country's flag on their chest

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versus some corporate logo. And it really shows us what we're missing.

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By having hockey as this like corporate behemoth,

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rather than as like an international.

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The four nations tournament, even if you're not into hockey at all, was a fantastic watch.

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It's like the best hockey you can watch. And every player was going for it every time.

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Like, wow. It was kind of crazy. That was, that was fascinating.

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That was my favorite hockey thing that's happened in like maybe ever.

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Yeah. I'd love to see them bring that back. I don't know if they're committed for next year,

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but I think seeing the success of the format, they like it.

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I'm just, I'm just worried there's going to be like too many injuries or something and they're going to shut it down.

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Right. I know that I think they're not doing it next year because it's an Olympic year, isn't it?

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I think it's a winter Olympic year. That would kind of make sense, but if they did it on non Olympic years, that would be cool.

03:07:07.500 --> 03:07:10.220
I'd be super into that. Yeah. Four nations face off was amazing.

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Okay. Okay. Let's see what else we got next.

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Hello from Tasmania, Australia. Wow. Linus, as you get older, do you expect your viewer demographics

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to age with you? Do you worry about young newbies in the tech field

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shunning you in your 40s? It's something that I've thought about a fair bit actually.

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I mean, I think that I've talked extensively about what I call the curve, which is kind of a natural fizzle out of

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not just like online, you know, internet famous people,

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but pretty much anyone with cultural relevance.

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You can't keep it forever. And depending on what kind of a space you're in

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or whether you're a man or a woman

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or what kind of role people can imagine you in,

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you think about... How about some movie stars? Yeah, absolutely.

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Absolutely. Like you get kind of typecast. So if I'm typecast as like, you know, the young geeky tech guy

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and then I grow out of it and I'm like an old guy

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that still talks like this, that probably won't work for people.

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Formats change. Something that I have not really had a,

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you know, a strong presence in is short form content.

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There's a whole tech talk that occasionally, you know, clips of me will end up on or whatever else.

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We have some of our own content that we upload there, but I wouldn't say that we're a dominant force

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by any stretch of the imagination when it comes to short form.

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You know, everything changes. Nothing ever stays the same. And aging out of this career has absolutely been something

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that I've thought about a lot. But what we're also seeing is that while I think

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the audience is aging up with me a fair bit,

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it's not as bad as I kind of always assumed

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that it was going to be. We're still like heavily skewed in the 18 to 24,

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25 to 34 and 35 to 44 ranges,

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which from an advertising standpoint is like ideal.

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Young men with disposable income is pretty much your,

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like optimal demographic target.

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And while we don't have one of the most sustainable verticals necessarily,

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like financial advice, for instance, has like crazy CPMs and stuff like that.

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There's a tech is really not that great for verticals.

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So we don't have that going for us. Like automotive CPMs are apparently much higher.

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What we do have is a really stable, oh, go ahead.

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They talk about that. There's a big time has a video on like,

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it's been one year since we left doughnut. What's it like?

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Yeah. And they actually like, it's a very much more open video

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than I think most people would make. And they show one of their dashboards at one point

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and show like their kind of CPMs and they explain how it works and they explain how like YouTube takes

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their cut and all this kind of stuff. And it's really cool actually. It's a good video.

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I would say there is a bit of a shift occurring.

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So we are 41.4% 25 to 34, 20% 35 to 44, and 24.5% 18 to 24.

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So that is all that remains is like 10% outside of those ranges.

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But I do think that Google's doing a better job of filtering out like garbage data.

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So I suspect it's always been a little closer to that. And we are aging up a little bit into 25 to 34.

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But I'd say given I'm going to be 39 pretty soon,

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if we're still managing to speak to 65% and 18 to 34 audience,

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we're actually still doing a pretty okay job. And given that we still have 30% of our audience, 35 and up,

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we also aren't completely losing the more mature audience either.

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I think more of that is probably not related to you.

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And I think more of that is probably related to our format

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because we don't cater heavily to short form. We do cater to short form.

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Sammy does a great job, but we don't cater. Our primary content is long form, which is aging up.

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Yeah, that's true. And I think there's just that our focus is computer hardware,

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which I would argue is aging up as well. I don't necessarily think it's super related to you personally.

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And there's like socioeconomic factors that are contributing to this.

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It is harder for a 17-year-old to buy a brand new gaming computer today

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than it was when I was a kid. Not just in terms of raw dollars,

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like in terms of purchasing power and typical disposable income,

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it's much more difficult. So I can totally understand why a lot more younger people

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would gravitate towards console gaming, for instance.

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Okay, up next.

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Finished all medical training. Now leaving the incredible friends I went through hell with

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over the past five years, and it sucks. What's the hardest goodbye you've had to say,

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and how did you handle it? Ooh, hardest goodbye.

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We're not talking deaths, right? Oh, I think. I don't think so.

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Oh, really? No, they left school.

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I think that's probably a little bit too... And they're all going their own ways. It's a little too far.

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Man, I don't know if I've... I don't know about hardest goodbyes.

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I've had a few moderately difficult goodbyes.

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Like when I did my six-year exchange to Quebec,

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not only was I saying goodbye to all of the people

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who effectively taught me French, and I spent every day with while I was there

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as a summer camp counselor. But I literally, I think the terms of the exchange,

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like there was no personal information to be exchanged or something,

03:13:32.780 --> 03:13:34.700
like I was literally saying goodbye forever.

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So that was kind of weird. It's an old school problem.

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Like I hadn't really encountered that before.

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I don't think I had a super strong attachment to anyone in high school.

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Anyone that I didn't maintain an attachment with.

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Yeah, it wasn't really like goodbye. It was more just fade away.

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That's one of the issues I'm having is a lot of the situations that I have left.

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Like what about your teams?

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Like you went to Provincials for like football

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and hockey and stuff. Was there ever a goodbye moment with your teams

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that you were like, I'm never going to see you guys again? It was less, in my opinion, those teams

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because the team you'd go play with for Provincials is not the team that you would naturally, I think,

03:14:24.700 --> 03:14:27.820
is not the team that you would play with throughout the season.

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Because they would take an all-star team from all the different teams in BC.

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For ball hockey, it's how it worked. Interesting. And then you'd go travel and play wherever.

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So like that group, I was never usually like that tight knit with that group.

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It was more the team throughout the season. And the team throughout the season even,

03:14:46.540 --> 03:14:50.140
a lot of times you'd see the same players kind of year after year.

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So it's like a slow roll. Yeah, what did really, really, really suck

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was the very last year. Because you turn whatever.

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And then you're not eligible. 18 or whatever it is. And you can't play on those sports teams anymore.

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And the jump to adult teams, a lot of them don't exist.

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Or the vibe is like completely different.

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Yeah, that makes sense. Football.

03:15:20.540 --> 03:15:24.060
Oh, yeah. Adults are not going to want to get injured.

03:15:24.060 --> 03:15:28.700
No. Turns out people do play rugby. I didn't know about that until like way later.

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But yeah, football, not so much of a thing. There's like one team, if I remember correctly,

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but they were super serious. And they really kind of wanted to be...

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This is extremely old information. It could be wrong even from back then.

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But they wanted to be kind of like the house team for the Lions.

03:15:45.580 --> 03:15:49.500
Like they were like trying to make it. They weren't just playing for fun.

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Right. Seriously playing for fun. Like I like, obviously I'm going to give it,

03:15:53.420 --> 03:15:56.940
but like I'm also not trying to be a professional football player.

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So like there's a difference. Between trying as hard as you can

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and trying to be a professional football player. There is a difference.

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So like certain sports, they just didn't have teams.

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Other sports, the vibe was completely different. Like I would still like to practice.

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Right. Most adult teams don't practice.

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So you want the like football equivalent of like a badminton club.

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Like we're running where you can go and you can do training. Yeah, I think so. And you can like play and compete

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in like ladder games or whatever. Dude, even if it was just the practice,

03:16:26.940 --> 03:16:30.140
I would love that. Football practice was sick.

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Pushing bags around and stuff was really fun.

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And there's even like, I've been looking into getting into ice hockey.

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We couldn't do ice hockey when I was a kid. Equipment's too expensive.

03:16:40.620 --> 03:16:46.540
Thanks. I do pretty well now. So I could get some hockey equipment

03:16:46.540 --> 03:16:52.300
if I wanted some hockey equipment. But like I can't skate at all.

03:16:52.300 --> 03:16:55.500
Yeah. Like literally at all. Yeah. Yeah, it's pretty sad.

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Like it's a problem. Like I can't skate and like your trash.

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So like I can't just go join a team.

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I mean, David offered to kind of hold our hands next year.

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I want to do that. I'm kind of down. I'm totally down.

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Okay. Should we do it? Yeah. Okay.

03:17:14.940 --> 03:17:18.620
Okay. All right. We're doing it next season. So David's got to recover.

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I don't think you guys have seen any content yet, but his wing is pretty busted right now.

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Yeah. Which is not a good sign.

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But he's also a unit. He's playing. He can probably take some damage.

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He's playing a league above what he. So apparently he can kind of,

03:17:35.100 --> 03:17:38.460
he's allowed to play in a lower league. If he's kind of like chaperoning us

03:17:38.460 --> 03:17:42.300
and we suck kind of thing. And he doesn't like score too many goals.

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And stuff. So he offered to come in at the bottom.

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Yeah. Like I was good at ball hockey and 20 years ago.

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I'm a great rollerblader. Oh dude. I was really good at rollerblading.

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Terrible ice skater. When I was 12. Yeah. I have not done that ever since.

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You know those the crosswalk bars?

03:18:04.060 --> 03:18:08.540
No. You don't. Can I find any image of this? Okay. In the meantime, I wanted to address something real quick.

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Unique username asks, how do you mean you couldn't get back in touch?

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Like literally forbidden from exchanging contact deals? I was a minor.

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So I think it was like a thing. And then there was one other thing

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that I was going to answer. And I forget what it was.

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Oh yeah. The hardest goodbyes. Probably the hardest ones for me were employee employment

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terminations here. So like some of the OGs.

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And when I say termination, I don't mean fired. I'm not saying if they quit or were fired. That's none of your business.

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But just like people that,

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because there's some that like, you know, I'm still in touch with and like,

03:18:47.340 --> 03:18:51.420
you know, it's chill. Like Taryn and I tech, not my boss Taryn, the other Taryn,

03:18:51.420 --> 03:18:54.860
we text once in a while, like Brandon came to movie night the other week.

03:18:54.860 --> 03:18:59.500
Like there's people that I'm still in touch with. But and we do our best to kind of part on good terms,

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but breakups are always complicated and emotional.

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And sometimes, you know, they're not going to be on good terms. So those goodbyes can be really hard

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because these are again, people that you worked with for a long time,

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a lot. And sometimes very intensely, there's a lot of bonding that takes place.

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It's really good. I can't find an image.

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So I have come up with a terrible way.

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You really truly have.

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If the goal was terrible, you did it.

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And do you step in them like a cross?

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There's like one here and there's like one here.

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And it's a crosswalk. It's not a crosswalk. I said the wrong term. It's like in suburbia.

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It's like a trail between houses or whatever. Like a pathway.

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That's a pretty good picture of those. Like the vehicle blocker thing.

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That's a really good path. Good job. Yeah. Walking path, not crosswalk.

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I just said the wrong word. We're going to put it on the fridge.

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Gold star. That's a pretty, yeah.

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Okay. So those bars, you know, there's like the middle bar and then the high bar.

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And then they, so when I used to rollerblade all the time,

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I would deliver newspapers. Speed was of the essence.

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And when I was rollerblading, but not delivering newspapers,

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or if I like had a few to deliver through one of those walkways.

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So I'd like leave my big thing of newspapers and just go with a little bit and try to go really fast.

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I wouldn't want to weave around those because they would slow me down. So I came up with a way that I could, if I jumped,

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I could get the middle of my four wheels.

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I could lodge it on the bar

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and then lift myself up a little bit and get the middle of my other foot's four wheels

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on the top bar and toss myself over and just like vault them.

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Bloody hell. You shouldn't do that. So I did that every week for years.

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And it was awesome. Don't try it again. My brother and I were both like, oh no, dude, I might die.

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My brother and I were both very good.

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Yeah, it was awesome. And then I haven't done that genuinely since I was like a very early teenager.

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Good. So if I tried, I have a feeling if I tried to stop now,

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I would biff super hard. I literally can't find a picture of that.

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Yeah, why? Like, why? Is that just a local thing? Like, is that not a thing?

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I don't know. Okay. Well, anyway. I'm sure there's a proper term for it.

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All right, Dan. Dan.

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You are not there at the time. Please don't answer this for Luke and Linus.

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Okay. If the company was now still as small as it was five or six years ago,

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do you think people would have better opinions of you? That's a good question.

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Five or six years ago, we were a lot smaller.

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I think it'd go a little bit of both ways. I think there's a certain amount of inherent.

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I think there's, and it depends on the person. Like, some people will respect someone more,

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the bigger their businesses or like whatever,

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regardless of how good of a person they are. Like, you look at the way we hold some of Steve Jobs in super high regard.

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Like, the guy's personal life was a dumpster fire.

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Like, he was such an asshole. Like, you know, and nobody even disputes it.

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Like, it's not like it's, it's not like people are like, no,

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he didn't completely like mistreat his partner and child.

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It's like, yeah, but Apple.

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He did amazing things. Yeah. Like, it's like, it's this sort of bizarre issue that I've talked about in the past,

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but I think we're doing a really poor job of choosing our male role models. It's kind of what I think it boils down to.

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I think we sort of always have. Fair enough. I mean, we call him Alexander the Great.

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And he literally, I don't know if he came up with decimating.

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But he certainly did a fair bit of it. Yeah.

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Anywho.

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But on the flip side, I think there's people that inherently feel worse about someone,

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the more wealth they accumulate, which I can also see the perspective of.

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Especially now as we're hitting like quite a peak of wealth disparity.

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Yes. And we're ramping up into an unaffordability crisis that is impacting almost literally

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everyone like on earth.

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With that said, hey, my son lives there. Have you?

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Sorry. Tenet. Have you been? Have you been following what's been going on with property?

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I sent you an article today. You do. I have not. Oh, yeah.

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You. Well, I mean a little bit, but not enough. You should. You should read it.

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Let me let me put it. I've been a little busy the last few weeks. Let me put it this way.

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The crash that I've been rooting for for some time that I think will help significantly

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alleviate some of the pressure that people in the Vancouver area have been feeling.

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We appear to be on the precipice like we're already over the we're already over here.

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And it seems like it seems like the trajectory is this way.

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It makes me so excited. People keep saying this argument to me and I don't have anything substantial to counter

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it with, but they're like, oh, yeah, everybody's just waiting.

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And then like when the market drops like a couple percent, which is an enormous amount

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in the housing market, they're just all going to rush and buy.

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And my my constant gut feeling is like, who do corporations?

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Who are these people? They're going to buy up all the cheap housing because there's a demographic shift happening

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at the same time. Like, dude, there's so many businesses for sale on Facebook.

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Look, I buy one with a jet two for one.

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Your Facebook marketplace is I really, really, oh, it'll never happen.

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But it'll be so wonderful. Like if I could just copy your algorithm and put it in mine, because I would just.

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I want that as its own website. Yeah, Linus's Facebook marketplace is a website I would go to.

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I know I didn't speak directly to the mic. You can't hear that. But like, man, you see businesses, not not haunted monkey, two million dollar jet,

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just an entire business. Do you want to buy a Kroger for $26,000?

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She's a nacho heater.

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Like it's actually amazing.

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Cursed Gatorade. So there's a lot of businesses.

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OK, for sale on Facebook, because boomers are retiring.

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And there's like literally no one to buy them. So they're cheap. Right.

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So people are able to buy these things for like one X EBITDA.

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And like, if they have some startup capital, which is a real challenge,

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because they haven't had an opportunity in their life. Make any money so they like have to inherit it.

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Yeah, to build up a nest egg or creditworthiness. But you could just borrow against your house.

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Oh, no, wait. Wait, no, that's like real though.

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Yeah, that's how a lot of it gets started, right? So it's going to take some time.

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But I think we are. And the problem is that heading into this is going to be really painful in other ways.

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Like it's going to be a boon to people who are who have managed to save.

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And we're just waiting for things to get ever so slightly more affordable.

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But it could also be deeply problematic for people who are a little bit lower

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on the social ladder rungs and have not managed to accumulate the down payment that they need.

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And whose employment could be impacted by the economic hardship that's going to take place.

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And the like everything's, oh, why is everyone show bad news when show.

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It's almost like it's a reflection of the world.

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Oh, no way. That's worse. Irish Luck asks, what is EBITDA?

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EBITDA, hold on. It's a really fun word that doesn't seem to mean anything on the stock market.

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It stands for earnings before interest, taxes, depreciation, and amortization.

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It basically tells you how much money a company makes excluding any effects of financing taxes

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and non-cash accounting practices. So it's like theoretically a no bullshit, like how profitable is this business?

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Theoretically. Big theoretically.

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But there's always creative accounting.

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Yep. Hit me, Dan. Hi, Linux seabass.

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Do you feel burnt out due to the increased workload as chief vision officer

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compared to the time that you were thinking of retiring? Do you feel more tired this time?

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Well, I never get younger, which it turns out is a challenge

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because we hit our biological peak at like, what is it, like 23 to 27 or something like that?

03:28:09.580 --> 03:28:13.420
So everything's downhill. Every day, my reflexes are slower.

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Oh, hi there. You know, like every day I'm dumber, every day my peak physical condition erodes a little bit.

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So I never feel more energized than before.

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However, I wouldn't say that my workload as CVO is increased is different.

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I was trying to cut back to four days a week for a long time.

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I never actually really got that day off. Actually, I shouldn't say never.

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I think it happened somewhere between three and five times. And then theoretically, I was going to go to filming like three days a week,

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starting at the beginning of this June. But in practice, I've actually just started telling people I'm officially back to full time now

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because I mean, the truth is we've been having some very challenging growth pains recently.

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And I don't mean this as a knock against anyone in particular.

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What I mean is that it's just very difficult scaling a company from

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what's the German word again, Mittelstadt? Yeah, something like that.

03:29:25.100 --> 03:29:31.180
Yeah, the good one. Mittelstand, very difficult scaling a company from Mittelstand to

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even just being a sustainable Mittelstand actually, even if we weren't trying to 10x,

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which I don't even think we are trying to do.

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I'd kind of rather not. Yeah, people don't want to stick around for stagnation, right?

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And staying Mittelstand forever might appeal to you or me or someone,

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but it might not appeal to maybe Dan doesn't like that.

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Maybe that doesn't work for his career growth progression.

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I'd still ride the bus, but just like I applied some amount of resistance to us

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becoming the size we are now, I would apply a similar amount of resistance to us 10xing.

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500 would be difficult enough.

03:30:17.260 --> 03:30:23.180
Yeah, 1,000. I would hope when I was talking 10x, I was talking revenue,

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I would hope we could 10x revenue without 10xing. Oh, I thought you were talking headcount because we were talking about the difficulties.

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Oh, God, no, I don't know. 10x probably be 200, I would say.

03:30:31.420 --> 03:30:34.780
200 to 20. You could probably do that level of revenue.

03:30:34.780 --> 03:30:37.980
Depends. 10x revenue, dude, let's go. Let's go.

03:30:37.980 --> 03:30:44.220
Let's go. No, no, no. Yeah, 10x revenue we might be able to do if we've really scaled our activities in LTT Store

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and did way more marketing. So we just go for maximum top-line revenue, knowing that the profitability is going to drop

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like a rock, then yeah, something like that could work.

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Jurisal says, imagine building an air table for 1,000 people.

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Yeah. I read that and it gave me short-term trauma.

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I'm not even doing it. It's going to be identical.

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There's like no change.

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The complexity is in how many types of jobs. That's a big problem here.

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As much as a whole. And it's 100 jobs. It's not 100 people.

03:31:18.300 --> 03:31:24.300
200 people would still be about the same quantity of jobs. Unless we keep doing more and more things, which is what this company does.

03:31:25.100 --> 03:31:28.860
So yeah, we already did the hard part. We already did the hard part. Linus coin.

03:31:28.860 --> 03:31:34.780
We'll have a system integrator. Now we're going to have a... Now it's just scope creep and so we've already done the hard part, so we're fine.

03:31:34.780 --> 03:31:39.020
Okay, okay, okay. Yeah, because I was going to say, no, now it's 1,000 jobs.

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I might need another couple months of vacation.

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By the way, this is the best example I can do.

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Nice. Is that all the zoom you got? Basically.

03:31:52.620 --> 03:31:55.820
There we go. Yeah, just like that. There you go. It won't keep it. Perfect.

03:31:55.820 --> 03:31:58.300
Yeah, that's what he's talking about. Yeah. Yeah.

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There you go. I tried every search term I could think of.

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And couldn't find an actual example of it in a walkway like that.

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I could find just the bars. I found that. But I've seen them everywhere.

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They are. Oh, does somebody have a link?

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Close. That's close. That's close. It's not perfect. That's close.

03:32:23.740 --> 03:32:27.660
Yeah. No, the one Luke showed is the one that we have all over the place here.

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Yeah. The cyclist ender says curious bread.

03:32:31.660 --> 03:32:34.940
Yeah. There's some rough videos. There are actually.

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Have you seen them? No. Yeah. I don't need to see that. Yeah.

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I mean, you're not supposed to be riding your bike there.

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It's just to slow down. It's it means slow down a lot.

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It means walk your bike. The rough videos are usually from where it didn't have them and then they put them in.

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Because everybody rides looking at the ground.

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Well, it's a lot of it's like coming down a hill or something.

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That's bad. Should have put a ramp. And if it's like really gloomy out and raining and they're also gray.

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And like the ones that I showed had like little stripes at the top. Most of them don't.

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I have never seen them with any kind of indication that there is something that's going to hurt you.

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That was unique about this one. Usually they're just gray metal. So like in certain conditions, they're not the easiest thing to see.

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And if you're traveling really fast, you can whack them pretty hard.

03:33:24.780 --> 03:33:28.860
I never have, but I know from video experience,

03:33:28.860 --> 03:33:32.220
look up staggered barriers. I did. Okay, last one.

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Last one I got for you. Hey, Linus, Luke and Dan. Wow, somebody actually used normal words for a change.

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Still awake here in London enjoying the show.

03:33:40.620 --> 03:33:43.740
I am brainstorming an app idea that I want to build.

03:33:43.740 --> 03:33:46.860
And I was wondering back at the beginning of Flo Plane, how did you plan it out?

03:33:48.380 --> 03:33:52.300
That was my reaction when I read this too. Ah, yes, plan.

03:33:53.100 --> 03:34:02.940
So Jake and I had a semblance of a plan and then we talked about it somewhere.

03:34:02.940 --> 03:34:08.780
Concept of a plan, they say. Yeah, we had the idea of having a plan and we talked about it somewhere.

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I don't remember where that was. It was in a video or a WAN Show or something.

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Nice. And then there was a thread made on the forum of people talking about it.

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And AJ, who still works here, thank goodness,

03:34:25.740 --> 03:34:30.700
responded being like, neat plan, but you could do it this way.

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And it was like this really long write up of like how we should actually do it.

03:34:35.660 --> 03:34:38.460
And then we brought him on and did that.

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Nice, nice.

03:34:42.780 --> 03:34:49.100
And then we're like, wow, that was one of the worst times in history to make a video platform.

03:34:50.140 --> 03:34:54.060
So a lot of it has changed since then. But AJ's plan for that time was good.

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Nice. It's just with hindsight, it's just like, wow, those weren't bad ideas.

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But, nice, rough.

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We'll see you again next week. Same bad time, same bad channel.

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Bye.

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Oh, lemon.

03:35:33.420 --> 03:35:40.460
No, put the price up.