You should be alive
Sup y'all good. How y'all doing?
Good I hope No, not hope good. I demand
Nice that's leadership
Now everyone is good
That's how it works where I am well slightly north of where I am
It's very true
Yeah, okay, sure everyone everyone's good there. Yeah, I heard they built some buildings
You heard they built some buildings. Yeah, it was like actual news recently they built a bunch of stuff
North Korea built stuff. I'm sure I can find that worse for you built
Stuff, I'm literally just gonna search that
Am I looking for right to factor I love to factor it makes my life good
You
Yep, they built some things a skyscraper district
We built this city
On a peninsula build this city
Okay
Trying to figure out how to get the chat up How you doing chat a new subway station new beach resort a new skyscraper district called Pyeonghatan a skyscraper district. Yep
Some other stuff they built things dude
It's cool Okay, all right the last thing I need to do is
Set my watch charging while we do this because it's at 3% battery and then we can go live
cool
All right, okay, all right, we good we doing this I think so hey chat. I see ya
I
Then would it be a huge, you know what no it would not
Am I in the right spot? It doesn't doesn't matter. Just does this work for you. I fixed it then does this work for you
Can you not hear me?
Um Dan I can hear Dan. Yeah, okay good who the is Dan
He's fixed
You know those like supercuts crazy modern supercuts that have like lots of
Like very punchy music and they really quick cuts and like interesting
Dan, do you know I'm talking about at all? Yeah You should you should have one that's like who the is Dan Bessar and then just
Be fun
Okay, I think I'm ready. Are we are we good like chat does everything seem good?
Why do I look sad? Oh, well, I just saw what
Who was it who messaged this apparently Theo Joe is is is ducking. He's piecing. Huh?
What No key no key sent this he's he's like, I don't want to compete with you with slop content on YouTube anymore. I'm out. See you later
Is that not a reason to be a little sad, no, it absolutely is but
And
Yes, the room is small I am like up against a
Maybe 24 inch probably like 20 inch desk which is up against a wall
Which has a pillar right here. So like it's like a nook and then this is a
It might be a queen
I think it's a full though and then it's against the wall. It's like
It's pretty small The counter space in the bathroom is literally just like the lip around the counter so
Oh
He sent another post recently saying he might just hire an editor instead. I mean that seems like a more
I chilled out a bit and walked myself off the edge response. He did also say it's not like I'm quitting today
But I've been looking at other opportunities
Feels very what year was that 2019 Linus coated?
Hey, look, I'm still looking at other opportunities thinking about what I need like a really talkative janitor
No, don't don't let them see your cables anywhere
Okay, Dan, do you want this light or no, it seems like it just ruins everything it does
Okay, forget it. I'm over it. Yeah, that looks fine. Yeah, your auto color balance is cutting in
Julie's trying to get me to retire
He says I'd be a goaded high school custodian
I don't think you would I Don't think I'm old enough yet
But actually I think I'd be down to be the like high school custodian that people are like
No way. He like used to be a social media star
Instead of finishing the equations on the the whiteboard he just fixes all the computers
Actually be great
I'll still pull up to this school in a portion. Yeah, you don't have to pay for gas
That would be pretty funny. Oh
Okay
Okay, I am ready when you guys are
Oh
God Colton's messaging me. Oh
Nice, that's my favorite kind of message. It just says we got it sorted
Hey, we have a new sponsor who wants to sponsor you to clean a school as a janitor
So ready That deep red
Deep red, please
Do you know they would do it that'd be so funny. I had a deep red garbage can
That would be so funny deep and cover okay, we should do coveralls
Should we do this thing if you're ready? I am
Okay I'm ready. I'm ready Dan
Luke go for it. Whatever dude send it
Okay, I can resume the selected
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There you go
What's up everybody and welcome to the WAN Show we got a great show lined up for you guys this week that
Almost didn't happen thanks to Linux, but then almost did happen
Thanks to Linux and then totally did happen and we're so totally back. Thanks to Linux
No, I got a I got a lot of I got a lot of Linux challenge updates for y'all this week
It's gonna be freakin awesome in other sort of
Tangentially Linux related news it looks like valve is still on track to deliver their steam frame and
Steam machine in the first half of this year. So that's pretty exciting
They're still working out the details of pricing and exact delivery times, but hey
If they don't deliver it in Q1 All right, excuse me if they don't deliver it in the first half then at least we'll have a new funny meme for the valve time website
True Intel's new CPUs are in quotes. They're fastest gaming desktop processors ever
Hope so yeah pretty much, but hey, we'll talk about that. Hopefully that'll be cool. Also
More Linux news Linux has been hacked onto a ps5 effectively turning Sony's console
Into kind of a steam machine that can play PlayStation games
Honestly kind of cool that sounds kind of goaded sick pretty sick
We got a we got to do the thing hold on I can I think I can they boot
I don't know if I can manage to see it. I'll do it. Vessie factor meals. Oh do in Squarespace
Both our rap partner D brand laptop partner razor and chair partner razor
Thank you. I would give anything for a razor chair right now Luke. I am sitting on a stool
That is so crammed up against the bed behind me that the like rock hard for whatever reason frame around the bed is
Digging into my butt and cutting off my circulation
Rock-hard things in your butt Dude, yeah, some of the some of the hotel wancho setups that I've had have been pretty precarious. I'm not gonna lie
But what do you want to talk about first should we talk about my adventure getting the wancho going?
I was gonna say tech mall, but yeah, let's do that to be honest Let's do that and then we'll jump into a real topic and then we'll come back to your tech mall
Sure, it's it's all kind of related and it all started when I was still in the uber on my way to the airport and I realized
Holy crap, I forgot my wancho away kid
So, you know how the last wancho that I did remotely the quality was like actually kind of awesome. It's very good
Lots of good comments about it. Yeah Yeah, I was using an Elgato wave 3 microphone. So I was just using like a desktop
Like kind of podcasty gaming microphone. Yeah, and then so I was and then for the camera
I was using that like super bougie razor one from our webcam roundup. Yes. So like
$400 webcam and I was like, this is freaking awesome
And I was in the uber and I realized I didn't bring it. It was right next to my luggage
It was where I keep my passport. Yeah impossible for me to forget
Is it was kind of interesting because you did bring it to ZTW even like that's how like default it is for you to bring it
Uh-huh, but it didn't didn't come on this trip, I guess Well, what happened is I got interrupted in my packing multiple times because I have kids and stuff with me
So they needed help and when my routine gets interrupted. I
Can't I can't do anything. I'm useless. I'm worthless
hate me
Thanks Luke. That's the affirmation I needed. Yeah
Anyway, I was in the uber. I realized I didn't have it So Yvonne because she is I don't know a saint was like, oh, well, you know
Why don't we as part of our trip go to a tech mall and maybe you could make a video? Hey
Seriously, find a wife who supports you and your career as much as Yvonne does. That's amazing
Yeah, it's crazy and I was like wait, so did she film is this like old school?
You're getting so far ahead of things. Sorry, I'm getting excited. I'm getting excited. I'm telling my story. I tell my story
So so she so she's like, oh we should we should you know, yeah, you could do that and I was like
You know, I had really planned to just be on vacation this time this one time
I had planned to just be on vacation we could just go to Asia and I could not shoot a video in a tech mall and
Then I was like, well, okay Let's have a look at what my options are if I don't go to the tech mall and I went wait a second
my laptop is running Kubuntu right now and I have I
Had a bunch of issues on the plane on the way over here trying to get screen capture going because I was gaming on the plane
And because I I didn't bother to convert my handheld yet
I was like, okay. Well my gaming machine for this trip then is my laptop because I have to game on Linux
Dude, I had so many problems
But then not any of the problems that were anything to do with gaming
So we can talk about those later. Okay, the point is we got here
And I was like, oh, I really don't know about doing the tech mall thing and then I was like wait
Can I even join the WAN Show in my laptop's current state because OBS was a mess
I couldn't get screen capture working because I was trying to show some of the challenges that I was having on the plane on
The way over here and I wanted to record them and I literally couldn't
Still haven't solved it. I'm sure I can but I just haven't put in a ton of time to solve it yet
so I fired it up and I was like, oh
We are in serious trouble here because what I didn't realize is that while my camera works
The camera on this this ASUS machine that I'm that I'm demoing right now that I'm using for the Linux challenge
Super cool machine Strix Halo OLED screen
Beautiful machine awful webcam just
horrendous so the webcam sucked and
even worse my odd my onboard audio it turns out wasn't working and I didn't realize that for
I've been I've been Linux piled on this thing for I think two weeks now
The reason I didn't notice is because I I almost exclusively use my laptop docked
So I'm always running over. I'm always using a USB audio device or an HDMI audio device
Which does work or I'm using my AirPods which do work my actual onboard audio
Doesn't work. Oh, and so I So I'm in the hotel room and I'm like, okay
Am I gonna be able to do this and I just plug my headphones into my laptop and I go, holy crap
I don't have a my say I would normally use this mic and then I would use my headphones and neither of them were working
I was like Okay, what now hmm. I can't go back to Windows. That's not in the spirit of the challenge
So what are we gonna do? All right, we got to go to a tech mall
We're going to the tech mall so
Okay, one one side just a just a pause just pause you're we're getting some choppiness is this
Cuz you're on the other side of the planet like I'm looking for input potentially from Dan as well. This is your laptop
No, this is me using a Solution that I found. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. All right. All right that I think you're gonna like
I think you're gonna like the solution. Okay. Is it a perfect solution?
No My audio good, is it just the video that chops a bit the audio? I mean, it's I can it's clear
It's not as high quality as we've sometimes had on remote calls, but it's I just mean does it chop does it chop?
No, audio seems fine. I think it's just the video. I think all right. Okay, so I headed to the tech mall which
The Wikipedia article indicates is amazing, you know, and I found some other sort of
Raw raw raw Korea type articles that are like, yeah, yeah, it's amazing. It's the best. It's the biggest in South Korea
It's awesome. That sounds great. And then I found some recent reviews on TripAdvisor and
from found some recent discussion on Reddit that it's
maybe seen better days and is quote-unquote a ghost town and
quote-unquote full of scammers and So I went in with very mixed expectations. It's gigantic. It's across
Over 20 buildings and totals like 5,000 shops. So unlike, you know, Simlim Square or
unlike the one that I went to in
What's it called the the the Taipei one? It's not a mall
It's more like Like I'm gonna pronounce it wrong, but like Washong Bay like like the big tech district in
In Shenzhen. It's it's more like that
So it's just like it's like a district and some of it is, you know, corporate offices and some of it is
Tech malls and some of it is more like traditional malls that just have a bunch of tech on the ground floor
so I Had a simple objective Luke a simple objective
I wanted a desk USB microphone and a bougie web cam at any time. Any time
has a simple
I feel like you need more complicated objectives, so then maybe things will be easier. I don't I don't know
It's so true though like seven gamers one CPU
Yeah Got it done
Yeah, I don't know For bonus points for bonus points
I was like, hey, it'd be kind of cool to have a little LED light, you know, so that I would actually look dice. Sure. All right
so I made my way through
four or five floors of this place and
First it seemed extremely promising just about the first store
I walked into had a little like razor desk microphone and I was like, oh, this is great
This was basically effortless. I'm I'm gonna be good to go. But hey, you know, I don't want to buy the first thing
I see I'm not that kind of guy. I want to I want a scrapyard hunt a little bit. I want I want to see what else they got
so anyway, I like pour through this place and
It dude, it's a journey. It's a journey. It ended up being like a very old-school video
I actually filmed it completely myself. Okay, I'm just on an iPhone
I've got my mic pack and I'm just exploring this tech mall and the ups and downs are crazy
I'm like this is I Probably more excited about this than like I
Don't know that's just that sounds great. I Don't know much else to say
At one point at one point shortly after noticing an entire store dedicated to Noctua, which was pretty cool
I Was like on the verge of giving up and I find a Logitech store and I'm like, oh my gosh
That's it. That's the solution to my problem and I go wait. Oh, oh, oh
It's just mice It's like it's like just mice. Whoa, okay. He's got two webcams
he has the dinkiest webcam of all time and
The other ever so slightly less dinkiest webcam of all time and no microphones and then finally I was like, okay
Well, I don't want to walk away completely empty handed. I'm gonna go get that mic from the shops closed
Every other shop in the entire mall is open the one shop
I went everywhere else not a single other desktop microphone. Lots of like crappy tacky gaming headsets
No desktop USB microphones. They're freaking closed. So I'm just like, okay
Who we're we are getting to the point now where we are starting to run out of time and I have nothing
I have no microphone. I have no webcam and I especially have no LED light
so I'm just like I'm gonna go I'm gonna go to the Noctua store because I
Have an entire Noctua store. They're just probably based
And I'm gonna ask them for help I did ask I did ask some other people for help and they were basically just like no English. Goodbye
I was like, okay. I mean fair enough, right? Like yeah, fine. Yeah, but which is funny though because in general
I'm in South Korea if nobody figured that out yet from sort of the contextual clues. I
I Everywhere else I've gone people have been like trip over themselves to be helpful helpful
Like I'll just I had a great experience a little bit confused
I I spent like like four seconds looking at a metro map
Just to make sure that I was going down the right stairwell to go to the right terminus station, right?
And some guy walks over and he's like, can I help you do you need help or you lost?
I'm like, no, no, I'm actually good. But wow like thank you Been absolutely incredible not in the tech mall for some reason the vibe was very like like you make eye contact with them
And they go oh foreigner pretend. I didn't see him like and then even like like like laughing to each other that they're
They're both like going out of their way to ignore me right now. I'm like, okay, sure
It might just be the one building that I started in though. Anyway, the Noctua dudes
Absolute bros. I we used Google translate and we figured it out and they sent me to a different building
where Once again, I
Found something I needed like immediately. Well, I'm just gonna check. Yeah
I walked basically through the door and into a shop with a road NT USB plus
Which is a perfectly Cromulent desktop microphone except once again. I was like, well, come on
I'm not gonna I'm not gonna just buy the first thing I see never mind that it's like
Getting to be close to Yvonne and the kids are done at the zoo and we should probably get together for dinner at some point
But I want to look around a little bit because dude this place was nuts in terms of like camera and production gear
Like they had I think it was what was it like an FS7?
Mark 2 or something like that like multiple used camera bodies of that caliber right next to each other amidst like a
hundred other production grade camera bodies just like
Dude, you'd never get away with this kind of thing in North America Just like on the ground floor of this mall like right next to the exit
Yeah, I get hundreds and hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of camera bodies just like sitting on the counter crazy
Not even like like bolted to anything
and Like and full of like second-hand stuff
Tons of second-hand tech actually in both in the first mall, which was more like PC hardware and in the second
Mall that ended up being more like video production and then also PC hardware and also like the
bougiest audio equipment Dan you'd get such a kick out of this place like I saw turn tables that were
Way more art than they were actually meant to be a turntable as far as I could tell
Anyway, I walk into the place. I get a quote. Okay. How much is it?
Nothing's got pricing on it in a lot of the shops so they just like they pull it a calculator and it's like you ain't calculating nothing you're just typing a number in like you just
They just use it so that they can I don't know seem like they calculated the price
Well, isn't it that thing like don't automotive dealerships do this too if they don't say it if they just show it to you
It doesn't like impact as much. I think I think it's like a psychological thing
I think so because dealerships will like write down the number and like slide it over to you on paper
So they don't have to say it
Really I wonder if chat's gonna chime in in Japan these calculator show prices everywhere, too
Maybe it's
Yeah, like I could I could definitely see that
When I bought my bike so he negotiation tool. Maybe it's both
He shows me this price he shows me this price on his calculator and I go, okay
Well, you know, I want to shop around a little bit No, not gonna buy the first thing I see and I go and I look it up after I leave him like oh my god
That's like a hundred US dollars more than if I just bought this thing at B&H. So while it's a
perfectly good desktop microphone and
While I'll be honest with you guys, right like I'm you know, let's be real
The WAN Show must go on and if it came down to it
I would buy it so that I can be coming to you guys with reasonable quality from halfway around the world
But I don't like just Burning a hundred dollars like that. It doesn't make me happy. Yeah, so I was like, okay, I
Need to try to find something else Dude if I'd been looking for like a like a hammer microphone
And I wanted like a professional like like audio mixer or whatever dude. I'd have been I'd have been so good
So awesome. If I wanted a road like like camera mounted like vlogging microphone. I'd have been so good. I
Couldn't find a single other place that had a USB microphone even in this second mall
And I was like starting to lose hope and then and then this is actually kind of amazing
totally serendipitous I was going past this store kind of like talking about
the the the one one side of it and
Buddy gets like real mad at me for having my camera because some of the stores here in particular the gaming ones
They do not want you filming their storefronts And I don't know if it's because they have knockoff stuff or like pirated
Software or they have like emulated software running as part of their display. I
Whatever their reasons are for it. There was one like Like very Nintendo centric shop in particular that was like super mad when I had my phone out. I was like, sorry, bro
I like honestly don't didn't even care about your store. So
Sure anyway, I was going past this like this island in the middle of the mall and and I and I
Accidentally shot it and he's like bro was like super mad and then that actually made me stop
And I realized that and oh when you got mad at me about wearing a backpack, too
He was the first one to yell at me about my backpack and Because I stopped because he yelled at me. I realized that he also had the like the little hole in the wall next to it and
He had an NT USB plus in there and I was like, okay
Well, look we got off on the wrong foot, but I'll tell you what I'm gonna take my backpack off. You can have it
I'm gonna go over there and I'm gonna look a little bit more closely
and He gave me a way better price. So
Here it is, okay, I'm coming to you guys from a road NT USB plus and
I had long since given up on finding a bougie webcam. So I
Went all in Luke Chips all in on the table on being able to use my phone as my webcam
Which is where the Linux saves the day comes in at the end of this story, okay?
Interesting buddy buddy with the mic also had what were it? What were the other things I needed? Okay, right, right, right?
I needed a stand and a and a light the light ended up not being great. I've got this
What is it? It's a small rig. I want to say p96
Yeah, more like poo poo 96 because this thing as far as I can tell just makes everything I pointed at worse
I Didn't had me turn it off before the show
So I also want to stand in a light that are that are pretty bad
And then from another one down the like just down the walkway in the mall
I got a little phone tripod. That's also a selfie stick and and that's what I'm coming to you guys from there
So it's just over my my laptop webcam
So last night I get back to the room
Man shows in the morning for me, right? Like it's a 9 a.m. Start or whatever it was. So I'm not gonna have time to go out
Shopping and re could jigger a solution before literally
Yeah, don't have another SSD to like put Windows on this laptop and get that working because I've done the whole
Phone as a webcam thing before but never on Linux
So last night it's desperation time
First I get the mic working the mic's working
But like OBS wasn't recording it for some blah blah blah a lot of troubleshooting that unfortunately
I tried to record and ultimately I don't think I was able to record because the mic wasn't recording any of it
So yeah, cool that probably won't make it into the video and then I was like, okay
I need to figure out this camera
So I found three solutions suggested by AI
All of which apparently are Ubuntu ready Debian ready
I'm not using Ubuntu. I'm using Kubuntu or Ubuntu
It's Ubuntu not Ubuntu, but it's hard for me to remember that anyway
I'm using Kubuntu, but that's basically just Ubuntu with kitty. So it should be anything anything Ubuntu. I should be good to go
so I fire up my What what's what's it called home discover which is the kind of the app store that Kubuntu comes with and
Even though I've already configured it to use
What are the what are the ones that I added I added flat hub and I think I added something else
two of the three suggestions for
Use your phone as a webcam things didn't show up or they like
Yeah, basically yeah, didn't work and then I found this one that is rated like three stars I
Re in webcam for Linux v2.9.1 I
Installed it There was literally nothing to configure
I Don't think I have ever
used anything this seamlessly before
In my life, you've just got a drop-down. Which camera would you like that camera back?
Telephoto What what was that?
What one of them was like a monkey face or something
What do you mean monkey? That's my face bro. I don't know. I think one of them wasn't you. No, I swear
I Swear what was there not did you see that did anyone else am I crazy? I'm pulling up play back
What was that? That what that was my face, bro. No
There's another drop-down for video format you just pick your resolution and you pick your frame rate and
Then there's another whether you want to use the audio from your iPhone
That's it, and you're just
You're just good to go What it what?
Apparently it was my face it was zoomed in super blown out and upside down
The telephoto screen cap it my bad my bad, okay
It's gonna monitor is gonna
So I connected with a cable and that didn't seem to do anything so I'm just on hotel Wi-Fi. It just
Immediately worked and has not been perfect, but it has like
Basically worked for as long as I've been streaming with you today So I am completely coming to you Linux live, and it's going great. Thanks to
Irian webcam v2.9.1
Awesome, that's actually that's my
It's been it's been sort of
Almost like a like a microcosm of my entire Linux experience
Even like over the years if I try to do something complicated. It's shocking how
How somebody thought of that and built a solution for it it tends to be and you try to do something
When I try to do the simplest bloody
thing It breaks. Let me install steam gone
Let me let me use my phone's camera as a webcam instantly works
That's easy. See like I would have I would have been scared of that problem to be completely honest
Yeah, I'm surprised that was just like one shot. That's really cool actually I
was I was scared of this problem and like
I don't know man, and you know what's funny is I saw someone
Cringing that I'm using AI as part of the Linux challenge, but there's two things right one is that that's how people are gonna
Do it. Yeah, you don't have to like it, but you do have to just kind of sit down and accept it
Like all of my normie friends and family they go straight for the AI when they want to know how to do something these days
And there's also like you don't have to take my word for it That's just like us and that's just like declining
Use of of click-through. That's just a fact. That's just how it is and you can you can hate it
Yep, but you do just have to like deal with it that that's how people are doing things and what this is
Sorry, you can keep going Number two is honestly, it's been way more useful when I was trying to figure out my screen recording issue
I came out. I came across a like a discussion thread that had I kid you not
Five different solutions for how I can solve screen recording issues on Kubuntu. I don't want five solutions
I want to know how to fix it and and and all these individual people are just arguing with each other about
The the validity and merit of all these various
Solutions some of which like I tried the first couple and they didn't even like apply anymore
just Wasn't that useful? And so
That's the two that's the two things so as part of the Linux challenge
It's something that I would do Anyway, just because a huge part of my approach is that I'm trying to I'm trying to kind of channel my inner
What would a random, you know, and I have this one guy that I think of when I think of the slack jawed gamer and
I bumped into him at packs
Like 11 years ago. Oh, it was back when NVIDIA launched the shield portable handheld. Remember that thing?
Yeah, and I know I know the story You know the story, you know the story
Okay, so I encountered this guy who's sitting on a beanbag
Playing a PC game on this on this Android portable
That is streaming over Wi-Fi, which at the time was absolutely
Mind-blowing. Yeah, I was so I was so amped about like Wi-Fi
Game streaming and the fact that this device was like decent ergonomics and reasonable portability that could play Android games
And you could stream your freaking PC games over Wi-Fi to it. It blew my freaking mind and eventually became G-Force now and
and and moonlight and and steam remote play and just this technology and
The forefront of it. I think even just that concept in general also inspired you pretty heavily
Towards what ended up being your like my my compute at my home is a server room thing
Yes, because you used to talk a lot about how it would be likely that a lot of people would end up going that route and then
Distributing compute throughout their house and then that didn't get as popular as kind of a lot of people actually expected
But you were still able to pull it off well for your setup not in the way that I anticipated
Instead it lives in a data center. Yes in the form of G-Force now. Yeah, or whatever Microsoft calls their remote Xbox stuff
Anyway, the point is I walk up to this guy who's experiencing the freaking future in his hands and I go
Like oh, yeah What do you think he's sitting there on this beanbag? He's like
That was cool. I Was like, oh, yeah, did you do you realize that like it's it's like beaming to you and he's like
He's just gaming he's just gaming he doesn't care how it works
He doesn't he doesn't want to go any further than like the lowest possible friction path to he's just playing his game
He's like locked in and I was like, okay. Well, I'm basically I'm talking to a vegetable at this point
Yeah, but it was just it was really eye-opening to me because you know for many years
I had thought oh well like, you know gamers were we're like we're very interested in like the hardware and
And and and how it all you know is configured and what every setting means and we really care about all this stuff
But no there is a very very large much larger way larger proportion of gamers who don't care
At all Not even a little bit and and so yeah, probably high. Yes. Charged nuclei
Almost definitely like high as a kite this guy. It was remarkable
Anyway, I forget where I was going with this But the point is that that's how I'm doing it because that's how people are doing it and honestly I
Can't argue with the result worked great. Thanks. I'm I'm coming to you. I'm coming to you over Linux Linux saved the WAN Show boys
this and I don't I don't have a I don't have much Linux news things have been going fine for me
I think I've already updated WAN Show on what's going with my laptop
So I have Linux Mint on there For for yeah, I guess I guess a little bit of an update there just because you don't know what's going on
Because in the video I talked about how I've been running arch on my laptop for a while
technically when I filmed that it was running Windows and
Up until fairly recently it was running Windows, but it was running Windows because it was having a hardware issue and
Lenovo the laptop maker was like maybe it's Linux, which is I'm not even upset at them for saying that
Reasonable enough because the hardware issue that was that was
Happening was the screen would just like lock and that's kind of weird
So like it wasn't like the computer would just shut down randomly or anything the screen would lock
And there was no yeah anyways So they were like can you try Windows?
So I did and the same problem happened and then I just was too lazy to switch back over because
The whole point of running arch was to just point out that if you live in a browser all the time
It just doesn't really matter and then Windows was getting in my way because the start menu stopped working
So I rage I rage installed mint because I'm more comfortable with mint
And mid spin a fantastic experience I was pointing out to people before the show that I think it's actually really cool, and I don't know how many
Maybe there's tons of other examples of this. I don't know. I'm not that experience
But like if I type in SN for snipping tool
Screen shot will come up a tool that mint has yeah, it's not snipping whatever
It's screen shot if I type in paint it'll come up with drawing
It it has like something some form of information
That's like these are common things a Windows user would type in a start menu
It's kind of what they expect to come up, and then those things tend to come up, which is fantastic keywords
Yeah, some aliases keywords something they have some type of list yeah
Metadata yeah, and it makes it just super easy. Oh my god everything. I've had to do super easy
I had to sign PDF said stuff's already installed whatever super easy. What a joke
The biggest problem with computers that I've had in the last week
Isn't isn't like technically a problem. It didn't stop me from doing anything
But it's been that this computer is
Dan, and I think it's like failing to Windows update, but constantly trying
Because there's Because there's the Windows modules installer worker that for literally hours at this point has been taking up a very
Significant amount of memory a very significant amount of CPU a decent amount of disk just
Everything and going like hard there has been times where we've seen it spin up to over like 40% CPU usage
And it's just sitting there almost always at the top the highest process being used and like I've got I've got
Chrome open right now on here with with the the WAN dock and and Floatplane and chat and all this kind of stuff
And it's it's not even chrome that's using the most system resources. It's the Windows module installer
I've had some other interesting issues with it You try to install it and it fails and then to retry it has to download the whole thing again nice
And so it's probably downloading and it's so slow. Yeah, and then it fails and tries again
so with with one browser with three tabs open and
task manager I'm at 60% memory
25% CPU usage because Windows module installer and the service host Windows event log
and WMI and and a few other things are just cranking like all the time
And and yeah, so the biggest problem
I've had during the Linux challenge has been a Windows computer
That being said I haven't
I've been intentionally avoiding some things knowing that they won't work
But yeah, here's a question for you. Yeah, is that a hack?
Because I have mixed thoughts on this like on the one hand
Launching a game that says not compatible on proton DB
That feels like just throwing Linux under the bus, right?
Well, on the other hand if you go in in good faith being like I need to accomplish
Task a well, here's my here's my out. There's no solution. Yeah. No, that's fine. Here's my good faith thing. I don't check I
Don't even go to proton interesting I run in compatibility mode with 10 10 whatever 10-04 whatever it is the newest
proton compatibility mode and I just run it
Interesting I don't play as many games. I don't game as much as I used to everything's been fine
The little tux in your game library will like tell you if it's Linux ready anyway, so you don't even use that. No, don't look
That's crazy. Just to me That's the kind of thing that if I did people would be losing their minds at me like I'm like I'm trying I haven't ran into a
Single problem if I if I clicked play and it didn't launch I'd look into something
But there has been no reason to like that. I'm not I'm not trying to there's a I saw some reviews
Some people like reviewing our first video and like some comment threads about it
And they're all like all while he's fine because he's like super Linux experience
I'm not do it in like the same way that Linus isn't doing anything. I'm not doing anything
I'm not I'm doing nothing I so far it's been kind of luck of the draw, but like you saw this right like we went down to Florida. I
downloaded Slay the Spire 2 on
Pre-release launch I clicked play I would assume something light like Slay the Spire sure work
I didn't but then you can't assume you can't I don't think that's a crazy assumption either to be honest, but like yeah
Yeah, it wouldn't be crazy if it didn't work. Yeah, it's in EA, right? Yeah, but I didn't check any electronic arts
I didn't I didn't look up if anyone was having problems before we went into a place with dubious internet
I I didn't right a plan anything. I did nothing
Install the game clicked play and it worked completely flawlessly
It's also good dough. It's it's like
Yeah, it's yeah, I just
It's been I I I played probably about three hours of God of War
Like like remaster like not the first God of War game from like the PlayStation or whatever
But like yeah God of War the relaunch, whatever you want to call it. Yeah
And it was freaking awesome I don't know if I was getting as much performance as I would have gotten on Windows
But I was getting enough performance. I did run into a weird issue where
My charger I only brought like a little compact 65 watt charger and this laptop
Realistic it comes with like a 150 watt charger or something like that
But I can I can game off of that charger and it'll like it'll hold the line like it won't charge or discharge
so that was what I brought with me and I did run into an issue where I got down to 10% battery and
I got that notification and then I was like, oh crap someone knocked my my charger off on the plane
So I put it back in and then because that notification kept like coming and going and coming and going because I was like riding 10% forever
the game Eventually entered a state where it just got kind of choppy and wouldn't run properly
So I had to turn it off Charge up a little bit launch the game again, and then it was smooth again, but like realistically
I don't know I would have you could have an issue like that on a on a Windows PC as well
So I'm I'm counting that as as it ran pretty darn good. Yeah, and I'm really enjoying the game so far. I
Finally freaking playing it. It's funny. How that kind of happens for me is
It takes like a new device launch or a Linux challenge or something for me to
Finally get into a game. I've been meaning to play for years. Yeah
That come out 2018 or 2017 or something not quite, but I think I think we're getting close
There's been like sequels to it since then But there is some things like you know
I'm not playing I don't know Basically any multiplayer shooter game
Yeah And again, it's I feel like it's less impactful this time around so I'm not playing as much stuff
Right. Yeah, I mean your gaming rig has been just like locked away for a freaking six months anyway
So it's not like you're like locked in and hyper deep into a season of something
Yeah, right as you're you're starting the challenge There is the wipes coming soon and you want to get in a bunch of gaming or whatever the one casualty is
um Tarkov released 1.0 recently and you can like escape from Tarkov now you can like complete the game
Um, and I like have some curiosity to do that and finally put like a pin in it and be like I have completed
And and that's the the draw is not
Strong enough for me to like really care I think like it's it's one of those we had this conversation pretty early of like
It kind of blows me to compromise What games you can play because your operating system?
And I'm sitting here on Linux being like the experience has been pretty good
I don't really care enough. I think to uh, so far this this is even I think that might be a bit of a boomer dad take though
It might be but it's where like gaming is not Gaming is not as much of a central part. No, no that I know I just mean like gaming in general
I don't think is as much of a central part of your social life
That's where I'm getting with this. Yeah, there is a weird
I saw somebody point out and I don't know if this will work with Tarkov. Maybe it were some of the things
Uh, this isn't even a recommendation and like it's kind of
I wouldn't want to do it. I'm I have actually less interest in this than I do in like dual booting, which I don't have a lot of interest in
um But g-force now
Is apparently a way you can get around some stuff like fortnite apparently you can play fortnite through g-force now
um I I didn't have interest in playing fortnite before. I don't have interest in playing fortnite now
Um, but yeah, like I'm trying to think of what slay the spire one and two have launched both of those
um Baldur's gate
Uh My dad and I jumped on wow that worked
You just have to add wow you have to go in steam and then click activate a
non-steam game And then just add the installer through there
And it and then it'll just proton you yeah, it just works
Okay, which is like, you know that does take a second you have to google like okay, what and then the whole internet
Honestly, what's been really really helpful and I wonder if this is a bit of a hack for me
Is part of the reason why I went with cash is because it's based on arch so I can follow the steam deck guides
Right, yeah, so that was what I ended up seeing for
Uh Wow was a steam deck guide. How do I play on steam deck?
And I was like, that'll probably work for me. And then yeah, I did
Uh, I gotta be honest with you. I've been happy about my kubuntu choice for pretty much the same reason
Because kubuntu gebion. Yeah are by far
The the the most supported when it comes to just like a random application for using your iphone as a webcam
That being said literally I'd be really interested if you sent that to me because I
Figured out recently the whole tarball thing
It's just a zip file You just open it and then run the stuff that's inside of it and it seems to work fine. I had something that was made for
uh debion Work with nothing from my end
um Immediately and it was completely fine. So
I don't know. Uh, let me have a look at what their what their download formats are
Uh, oh, yeah, it's a oh, it's a beta. I actually forgot to mention that that the iran webcam is beta for Linux
And it just worked immediately into 2204 or later required. So they're literally on their site was not an obvious way
to um
Yeah, so it's a dot deb download. So I just so all I had to do was just open it in my
In my store in my discover store or whatever the stupid thing is called in my discover store and go for it
Um, so sorry. No, this one's not beta. So the support for ubuntu is not beta
And then there's a Linux RPM package, which i'm not familiar with. I don't know what that means
I don't know how that relates to your tarballs or whatever um
But that one is in beta and that's uh, yeah dot RPM whatever that is
So when it comes to doing anything not gaming
Which I haven't actually really needed a ton of guides for I've been
extremely Luh happy to be on debian basically to be on ubuntu. Yeah, I found um
You know mint just had all the stuff pre-installed like I've been having a good time with kashi
But I I don't know if I would recommend kashi to a ton of people
Um It's I hate to be that guy out of the box
I don't know if I would recommend any flavor of the weak distro
No, I and not not because this is a big part of the reason why I think yeah, but because the people who
Tends to evangelize these distros
Are self-selecting as people who enjoy
tinkering Yeah, and so the very fact
That they are recommending it tells me that that's probably not what I want
Um, no offense. No offense. And for me, it's been fine
But it is been like oh, okay. I have to like go get something for screenshots
All right Like there's been stuff like that and it's been easy to do so. I like you you're talking about how you haven't been using like
Thank you. I like you too You're talking about how you haven't been using the like forums much and stuff
Um, yeah, I've been kind of avoiding them as well
Uh me too, but I've been mostly avoiding them the level one text forum is is permanently based
But a lot of the other ones like honestly, I just don't need that much negativity
You get you get like a a simple question and then it's just
20 pages of people screaming at each other for like often
Completely unrelated reasons. It's wild. Um, it's it's honestly just kind of terrible, but
Um level one text forum has been awesome and holy wars are bad and the collateral damage is not worth it
And you were talking about how like the flavor of the month distros thing
One thing I will give cashy as much as I wouldn't necessarily recommend it to
To new Linux users so much at least in my experience. Um, is their wiki is
Awesome, if you're willing to kind of like pour through a wiki a bit. I I could actually totally see new users using cashy
They have like this software list thing where it's like
Oh, here's a a ton of different things you might need to do on your computer and here's recommended software that you can use on cashy
Um, and here's the like package name so you can stall it super easy stuff like that
Um, but yeah, their wiki is sweet. Their documentation is really good. Um, so I've often I've I've kind of defaulted to just like
I'm not actually going to look up What people are saying
I'm just going to look up the wiki and just find the information already there and grab that. Um
Yeah Yeah
It's been uh, it's been pretty good. I will say the the mint experience has been more comfortable isn't safe
No, nowhere is I think like toxicity. Yeah, I actually think it's just nowhere tinkered with Windows
Especially when he had learned pc stop lying
Nobody said that nobody said anything about that. It's just it's honestly like it sucks. I honestly
I think it I think it might be worse Than the first time we did this
Um, which I find interesting. I was
I was expecting it to be better after that. Yeah, me too. Like I it seemed like after the initial
Very strong reaction
Um last time around It seemed like they
A lot of people stopped blaming the user quite as much when they realized. Oh wait
That was a really bad bug that caused that Oh wait, a lot of this feedback is really valuable
We actually have a couple of people who between them had at the time probably about
30 years of experience testing tech products
doing free qa like
Maybe this is valuable what's going on right now and a lot of stuff
On the developer side Got fixed after we flagged I will say we had issues with it
Linux the experience of using Linux again itself both mint and cachey has actually been really cool the the
The improvements over the last what four Years
Has been yeah, it's been a while that's been one of the really cool things about using mint on my laptop too is
As much as I'm playing around with cachey I get to experience the thing that I did last time too and seeing the gap like mint has come
Really far people people trash on mint for not getting as many updates because it's an lts thing and all that kind of stuff
um, there's other parts of that as well, but it has
Be gotten a lot better actually and I I kind of liked it last time
Since last time we did this challenge, but the community just
Ah guys the memes aren't cool like it's actually just sucks. It's very it's very uh acidic
I don't want to go near it too much and again. There are havens
For like the fourth time or something the level one text forum is awesome. Um, that that cachey wiki is freaking fantastic
Um, there are places where you can have really good interactions
Um, but man, there is just so much prickly
I don't know it's very like holier than thou mentality
Um, I must be right about my opinion that multiple people could be right about situation
So this is really important. Um, our on my float playing commenter is still upset
Basically going you hold Linux to a bar and then flame it. That's how it feels and it's like
Yeah, it's all about the perspective when you hear me talk about
Linux in general open source in general, you'll hear me be extremely
Uh, you'll hear me praise it like very very strongly because the concept is incredible world changing is is not an overstatement, right?
Uh, the free open source software is is is like, you know, youtube
Yeah, I I would I would say as a wonder of the world is is incredible as something we've never had before and yeah
May never see again if somehow we we lose what we have now this amazing thing
And and part of what's amazing about it is that it shouldn't be lost
It it doesn't seem like it it it's possible for it to be lost
But we should never take that for granted either. That's all i'm trying to say
Um, so from that perspective, you know, i'm very positive very bullish
I mean you've heard me many times publicly talk about how the year the Linux desktop is coming. I think steam os could be the one
However When I am approaching something from the perspective of an individual user who's trying to get something done
You're just gonna have to put the emotions aside because
And so am I If I go and I click run this software
And it doesn't or it has me Dunking around in the terminal a bunch
Then i'm gonna have to just give you a reality bomb that most people don't want to do that
And that's a terrible user experience and when I show up on a forum talking about that terrible user experience
And you get emotional like you're getting emotional right now
And you make it that you know, i'm attacking this thing that is precious to you instead of just going, okay
Maybe this thing I love isn't perfect and could be better
That's destructive That actually works against
Um, what we're all trying to do and what I am rooting for which is year of the Linux desktop
But these different perspectives matter and these different framings matter Linux challenge is not about do I love
Open source software and do I support it? It's about hey as a gamer
How actually usable is this day to day and how much work do I have to put into it?
Am I it's also not a am I substituting?
Go ahead. It's also not a Linux sales pitch. Um, like I I've I've seen some
Yeah, I've seen some people like upset that the negativity exists
I've seen some people upset that Linus is trying to
interact with things in the way that a normal user might and stuff and it's like guys what like what
I I switch to Linux videos on youtube. There's so many people have figured out that this format kind of works and people click on it
Uh Cool sounds great. This is our angle. Everyone's gonna have their own
um Yeah, it's
It's it's interesting, but like it's
It is a problem that the community is so toxic being
Honestly being too being too positive about something
I think can can be equally destructive to it if you misrepresent something big
I mean think about it if you're shopping for a car Okay, and you walk into the dealership and they tell you it gets a thousand miles to the gallon
and the paint Never peels it never needs to be washed and the second, you know a woman sees you in it
She will be drawn to you magnetically and you buy this thing and it turns out it's just a car
You're gonna be disappointed because the framing of it was totally wrong and you lose trust
Exactly and and and you might never buy a car from that brand again
That's why I think it is so important to just
take off the makeup And be realistic about what this is like and what the problems are and if I find a problem
If a problem that I find is that hey this os that
Everyone knows is bad Still gets recommended a lot by tools like google search
And like chat gpt that you don't have to like it, but you do have to just
Kind of deal with it that basically everyone uses
Then don't be mad at me. I'm just the messenger
solve the problem If that's what you're passionate about this is off topic solve the problem
But you said steam os could be the one for you're the Linux desktop
I don't think it's going to be I don't think it's going to be probably ever
Um, I don't think valve is going to want to support the non gaming aspects of it
But that's one of the reasons why I've been playing around in like arch
land And like playing around with a couple different distros and stuff like that is because my current
Extremely ignorant vibe check is like maybe the path that they're on is going to get a lot of support
And I've been kind of seeing that with cashy os and like these different types of things
Um, I don't think if we went back four years ago
And I'm probably wrong about this in some way
Manjaro you have a button for that manjaro was arch based. Isn't that right? Is manjaro arch based? No, I don't think so
Yes, manjaro is arch based Yeah, oh, okay. Um, yep. Thank you. So that that was like a round
But that was if I You ended up using that, right?
Yeah, I did. I used manjaro. I forget why I decided to use manjaro, but I
Ultimately settled on it. So I think that was like, yeah, no, no, okay. Yeah, it's because it's easy arch
Yeah, or it was yeah, I don't know might still be
Um, but I I think that was like just kind of starting to become a thing as like that could maybe be used for gaming
But arch was always just the big spooky side of things Uh, people didn't really want to touch it. I remember
um People you started talking about the a u r around that time and like it started becoming a little bit more approachable
And there was manjaro and a couple things like that and these days now it's like
Oh, it's the gaming thing and cash us is over there and oh steam steam
Os is built on this thing and gaming focus gaming focus gaming focus
And I think the other things will kind of follow and I think something in that realm
Might make it which is why I'm trying to familiarize myself with those things
Uh instead of just sitting in my comfortable mint
land forever So the reason the reason I think it's going to be steam os is because um, I
I believe At this point, um, and I I've just I've seen too much in our in our last Linux challenges and just with
The the development of open source software in general
Um, I believe you need a vision for something like an operating system
I think you need a really strong direction
And steam os has it and while I do
absolutely See your point that with their focus on ultimately like let's
Let's not kid ourselves selling more
Counter strike gun skins, right? Yeah Like, you know what drives valve at the end of the day
Um, I can see how you might not have faith that they're going to put the time in the work
into The other aspects of of the desktop experience
From talking to the folks there From seeing the direction that they're going from the steam deck, right, which is handheld only it's it's big picture only, right?
And seeing how much they wanted to talk about
How much they've improved the desktop experience with the steam machine the fact that one of their demos
Was with a desktop monitor and the steam machine running in desktop mode
Um, the fact that like, uh, it was a while back We were trying to get this ancient printer working for a video and that was when I realized that steam os had no
Built-in support for printers of any sort you had to basically like clutch it in yourself
Um, since then I believe they do support printers now
And there would be no do you want to double can can someone double check that for me?
I'm gonna need a luke. I don't know here, but I I believe that is a thing now
There is no reason to support
printers and and the printing stack Out of the box if you don't freaking intend for this to be a desktop operating system
so to me The the vision that I see
And the direction that they're going are the strongest and the most cohesive
And I just don't know. Yes printer support added in steam os 3.6
And I just
I see how much money they're putting into making the experience better for gamers
And I know that gamers are just one specific use case, but they also are a use case that
Demands high performance that that that tends to be micro influencers
For their friend groups around them, and I just I see momentum building that way and I I saw a couple comments in the chat
Yeah, but it's AMD only Valve would love for steam os to be super NVIDIA friendly tomorrow
but From and this is me putting words in their mouth. No one from valve has told me this
Any of this I'm I'm assuming that they would love for steam os to be NVIDIA friendly
And what I'm basing that on is that the original steam machines 10 years ago
Used invidia cards valve clearly wanted to use invidia at some point
um But from what I can tell it basically just comes down to vendor cooperation and vendor software support
Something that torval's mentioned has gotten way better from invidia now that Linux and ai
and invidia All have a common direction that they're trying to go. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Will the gaming hardware follow?
Yeah, I uh I think it I think it will
um There's also man There's also like bigger industry trends that we can look at and go okay
Well does invidia matter that much you could look at their their gaming discrete GPU market share
What is it 95 percent in the most recent report and go? Yeah. Yeah, it's the only thing that matters
But like the laptop that i'm running on right now this machine
Does not have a dedicated GPU and I don't care
at all Even a little bit i'm using an apu
But with the performance of the AMD Radeon 80 60 s or whatever the model is graphics in this thing
I don't care So yeah, if AMD's market share continues to absolutely suck donk on
discreet But their apu's continue to go the direction that they're going right now where they own the business of sony playstation
Own the business of microsoft xbox, whatever form that ultimately ends up taking
Pretty much own the entire gaming handheld space
and Are shipping these incredible high power GPU
apu's that are going to start to dominate in laptops or even small form factor desktops like the framework desktop
investment disclosure I don't know man. Maybe that whole thing that
I remember AMD first talking about with fusion back shortly after the ati acquisition
Maybe that whole thing where desktop computers don't need to discreet GPU
Like becomes a thing gross
Gross I know you might be right. I know it's still gross though and yet
And yet I was playing god of war And it was freaking awesome
On what as a high powered solution. Yes very expensive right now
But I remind everyone is an integrated GPU icky. What icky integrated graphics dude
gross
And yet here we are though No, I hear you I hear you I can accept the reality and still be disgusted by it. There's a lot of that lately
um Person for sure says I don't want soldered on RAM
But guess what buddy you already have soldered on RAM the RAM on your GPU is soldered because it needs to run at super high speeds
We're just using our GPU RAM as also system memory nothing changed just your your perception changed your your perspective changed
Yeah, that that computer that you stick into your computer that is the graphics card
That always like really fascinates me
It really is it's a whole own computer Like if you look at if you look at if you if you really like analyze a whole
graphics card It has the whole everything
has everything Everything buddy and like especially the professional grade ones that can do you know virtualization and stuff and that happen and
that It's Yeah, it's just a computer in your computer. Yeah, it's funny because like in some ways Intel lara b was
So far ahead of the curve on that where it was general purpose compute that was just hyper hyper parallel and could also be used for graphics
And it was just a computer But yeah, so much so much for lara b. Yeah
Have we actually done any topics yet?
I don't think so this could transfer us into a weird jump if we wanted to to the
3060 news Oh here here's a good one. Hold on last thing
On a hiccadge says fun fact The basite devs just updated the website to make the warning for the NVIDIA deck iso
Which is broken More obnoxious and clearly stated
Linus's experience has already made Linux better
I think that's the thing The community zealots are mad the developers if they're smart are looking at this going
This is free qa. Holy crap
We should action this so shout out basite for recognizing it for what it is calling something beta in this day and age
I mean gmail was beta for 10 years calling something beta doesn't mean what it used to
And honestly the experience that I had on that particular iso for basite was not even the old definition of beta
That was like alpha or pre alpha. It was completely broken just completely broken
so I don't know dude
Yeah, um Where is it?
Back then it was beta mail now. It's gmail. Thank you chat. You guys are great
Top okay, here we go This is a potentially short topic, but I did want to transition to it
Just because we're talking about like what GPU's people are actually using and stuff like that And then we then we can go to what Dan was talking about but NVIDIA reportedly brings back
production Of the rtx 30 60 to samsung 8 nanometer production samsung is restarting
Production of their 30 60s discontinued in 2024 on its 8 nanometer node according to korean outlet
Hank young I'm just going to confidently say that and we'll see how it goes in videos rtx 40 and 50 series
Both both both run on tsmc's custom 4 nanometer node a 5 nanometer class process
Because it's all just naming at this point
That's maxed out producing blackwell gaming and ai chips
So the old samsung 8 nanometer line can run without cutting into next gen supply
The move is being driven by a few things at once a GDDR 7 memory shortage is squeezing rtx 50 series supply
And NVIDIA's high-end ai chips face an uncertain and shifting regulatory
congressional restrictions in terms of shipping to china and doing all this weird stuff the older rtx
30 60 side steps
Pretty much all of that Since it falls outside of the restricted categories entirely
It's still unclear whether the returning card will be on the 12 gig original or the cut down 8 gig variant
But one of the really really cool side effects of this is people who currently have
A 30 60 or potentially just 3000 series GPU in general will probably have elongated driver support because of this
Which is really cool because those cards
Still kind of ripped still pretty based. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, so like if you're still running at 30 60 because hey, why not?
I mean, there's a ton of people still asking for a few more years out of their 1080s and 1080 ti's
So i'm sure there's a ton of people still running 30 60s
Then sick you're gonna have a lot more driver support. There's so many games coming out that really don't need much more power
I'm sure 30 60s run something like arc raiders. No problem
With that said If some of the rumors that i've seen about the next generation xbox or anything to go by and also the playstation 6
Don't forget that we're at the end of a cycle right now
We're at the end of a console cycle and there's always a leap once the dev kits for ps6 and xbox
Whatever they end up calling it start to roll out to developers. We are going to start to see next generation games
Hit development We're also going to continue to see live service games that continually get their graphics updated like wow
Um that are gonna keep moving forward And so we shouldn't get we shouldn't necessarily go. Okay. Well, you know a 30 60 ought to be enough for everyone kind of thing
But right now I 100 percent agree. I was actually I was gaming on a 30 60 recently for some reason. What was it?
Oh, right. I remember we did um the brazilian pc
Right, that's I I think actually up on Floatplane right now. You guys can watch it
um We ordered PCs from brazil
Which tends to be a couple of generations behind because it turns out that import tariffs are actually a really great
Way to make everything way more expensive for people who want to buy stuff. That's not a political statement. That's just math
Um and math is math. I don't make the rules about it So so we did the brazil pc and I was gaming on a 30 60 and I was playing freaking cyberpunk and I was like
Holy crap. Is dlss ever like good these days and I'm having a pretty darn good experience right now
like What? Yeah
30 60 is still a pretty freaking awesome. It's a sick car. So if we're gonna get more driver support out of this
That's just like I didn't even really think immediately about like
What I would call like a restricted market like brazil kind of is
Um where this is going to help them even more and that's awesome. Um
Yeah, so I just thought this was honestly kind of it's it's
I could see people taking this negative news I'm just going to decide to take it as good news because hey
We could use one of those and I like the idea of the driver support extending, but yeah
I think this is great news. Is that a controversial take?
No, I just I'm just kind of sitting here thinking like someone might see it as negative because this means that they're not necessarily
increasing Like they're not increasing capacity and getting out more like 50 series cards
Uh, which means that they'll be maintaining the price of those cards
I've wondered for years now why
The the low end one isn't just the last gen one and for a long time that wasn't feasible
Because the old nodes The gp the dies would be so big that the cost just doesn't make any sense
But for years now you've had everyone Intel NVIDIA AMD talking about how well the new product is just more expensive
Because yes, we can make a better one because of the die shrink
But but it costs so much more to manufacture that there isn't really like a cost benefit and I was like, okay
Well, then why don't you just make You know bigger bigger dies on the older node of your last gen card and just keep printing them
And that can be your low end like I'm I'm super like dude
If NVIDIA wanted to make more than just 30 60s if they wanted to make 30 70s
I'd be super down for that too. Bring it bring it on like
What is the AI card a lot of people try to go for 30 90s
Oh, yeah, people still love 30 90s 24 gigs that wouldn't make any sense though
Just because of how much RAM you're putting I know and
It's just too much GPU To make for how much RAM you have to put on it for how much performance and how much power consumption you're gonna get
Yeah, and again, I've got I've got people in chat yelling at me. I'm not saying
Relax, I'm not saying I think it's negative news. I said repeatedly that I think it's positive news
I was just saying that some people might think I'm getting I'm getting that angle right now
It's a tube of meat. It's seasoned
I prefer on the grill and I prefer flat meat comes off delicious. I'm gonna come out saying I prefer flat meat
So much colon cancer, but that's later. My meat should be flat and circular
So not health advice not health advice
Really
Okay more information than I wanted
Ah I was just saying like a shift of direction. I know it's a different process node. I know it's different
Manufacturing I know it's going back to Samsung. It's not using the five nanometer. We literally just talked about that
I know that's a thing. It's like attention pulling away. It's not potentially increasing whatever bubble, but it's still like
It's not an argument. I even agree with I was just saying that I could see some people trying to take that angle. Okay, so chill
The circular meat is fine Tube tube meat is fine
Anyways Dan CW things or something give me out of here. Uh, yeah, you've blown blast more topics you've blown blast comms
Why don't we do the CW announcement and a couple comms?
All right, hey Creator warehouses ambitions of being more than just the you know
merchandise ARM of Linus media group are
Coming to fruition here L's and G's because the blanks collection is expanding
Luke if anyone's gonna screen share it's gonna have to be it's up way ahead of you. What a guy
What a freaking guy We are now showing off our blank zip-up hoodie, which is designed for easy layering while keeping that clean
Minimal look it's available in black and dusty olive and is made from the same 100
Terry cotton as our classic blank hoodies and we're also introducing a blank hoodie that is not zip-up in dusty olive
You can complete the set with our new blank sweatpants available in also black and dusty olive
These are great for lounging the gym or quick errands
And they match nicely with our other tops and hoodies even older colors that you might already have
Visit LMG.gg slash blanks to shop the collection
And hey if you happen to be another creator who has some kind of interest in working with us
But you're not that interested in having LTT branding all over the stuff that you have
You know, hey there. What about what about creator warehouse branding that seems perfectly
Not LTT
Nice Dig dug says blank is pointless
I mean I prefer it a lot actually and like lots of people do there's tons of people that don't want to wear
Brand logos and like I I think our brand logos are subtle enough that it's totally fine
And there's sometimes where I do kind of like brand logos. I don't know I go back and forth
But this looks kind of sharp to me. It's subtle. It's understated. It looks nice. It works. It works good. I've I've had
Multiple people tell me and this blew my flipping mind
I've had multiple people tell me that they would buy the commuter bag if only it didn't have the LTT branding on it
Can you just I was like De-stitcher that bro
It's one centimeter by one centimeter black on black
What are you even talking about? But there are people who are so
Um, how do I put this?
Uh Very set on a particular
Mindset goal That they just so many full plane chat said you cannot free your point is mute
Yeah, except I've bought blanks that weren't from us before so my point is not mute
Um, it is it is generally good. Oh, I'm so triggered right now even if someone M. O. O. T
M. O. O. T. Moot not mute M. U. T. E. Yeah, no idea. Um
I uh As someone who isn't even that good at fashion stuff
At all Not even sort of nice something that the people who are good at the fashion stuff have told me is that I should have more blank things
Because I always just had like Uh convention shirts. Oh god, basically I had 100 of my wardrobe for a long years
Was convention shirts and then fashion people were like, hey
You should probably just have like a plain white T and a plain black T
And like a couple other colors and then those can go with whatever and then you'd look a lot more presentable in a lot more scenarios
and I was like Oh
That that was like part of growing up
It was like I'm an adult now. I need to not have like the equivalent of band shirts, but for technology or games
Um And like those are still cool. I still wear those but there's time and place for things
And sometimes it's not up to people. Uh brumby in Floatplane chat says yeah
I had to unstitch the logos off of my LTT cargo pants in order to meet work policies
Sometimes you're you're not allowed to wear stuff. Um
Totally get it
And look, I totally understand the perspective too of uh, uh, who is it?
Book horse says don't want to be a walking advertisement. Don't want to be a consumer
And totally get that too. Um
But I don't I don't personally consider A one centimeter by one centimeter black on black logo on an entire backpack to be
Consumer level branding walking advertisement. That's
Like come on. What do you even what are you what are you even talking about buddy?
like I I don't know man But either way either way we're we're doing our you know, we're doing our part
We're making unbranded stuff. So now all you have to do is do your part and buy it and then we can keep making it
Yeah, and if you don't want a blank tease that's totally fine. I didn't want blank teas for a long time
It's but they obviously very obviously have a utility
Hold on I have an idea
What are you doing now? What are you doing now? Yeah, that's your shirt
Spanky says I'd love creator warehouse to offer some self branding stuff
I'd probably buy 100 to 200 pens or pencils if I could change the logo to our companies
It is the kind of thing that we could do but for 100 units that would be really tough
And it all just depends on how it's done. Um, like whether it's uh, if it's a mold
It's just not feasible for small amounts of units
Like I think if someone ordered thousands of screwdrivers from us We could talk about changing the logo for like the plastic screwdriver for something like pens
I don't want to put any words in the cw team's mouth But I think it would have to be at least hundreds before we'd be able to look at a logo change
It just it depends on it depends on our suppliers. It depends on lead times
It depends on, you know, how much you're willing to pay for the customization, but hey, it never hurts to reach out
Sorry Luke, what were you gonna say? Uh, my google search ended up working
I I tried to like pull a gambit where I googled
Attractive man and then I realized that they were all wearing dress shirts
And I was like that didn't work So I tried attractive man wearing a t-shirt and I wanted to be like look they're all wearing blank t-shirts
Uh, and then even searching attractive man wearing a t-shirt only brought up dudes wearing
Button-ups. I was like, what the hell that should tell you enough, shouldn't it?
It did a little bit. I was like dang, okay, I guess Luke. We just got told
I think so
It didn't work at all
Good thing we sell pretty brandless button-ups
I mean, maybe we did did we get rid of them? I don't know wait
I got to work this time and I'm totally right. They're all
They're all blank Every single one of them is blank
All of them are blank. Okay. There's one
One Two with upload your image here that I don't think that counts
Almost all blank tees. Yep. There's a there's a few that aren't but they're almost all blank tees. So yeah
What up? I don't know fashion things but fashion people told me and apparently fashion people were right
Surprise surprise resale white but for shirts
Okay, Dan, you're gonna have to guide us a little bit here because we're clearly not I can't see your signs
I'm trying like Luke's ignoring me
Cool You're gonna plug whale land or just
Okay, you said it's a hell too didn't you? No. Oh, it was just me. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, let's do whale land
We have We have locked in the dates for the next whale land. It's gonna be on may 23rd and 24th
By oc tickets. So that is bring your own computer tickets are going to be starting at $80 canadian
So what's that work out to about 60 us dollars like 55 60 us dollars?
And there will be a limited number of whale vip tickets for $5,000 canadian
VIPs will get obviously their ticket to the event but also
A high-powered custom built gaming pc to game on a prismagic screwdriver a lightweight packable jacket a premium
And a studio plus Labs tour ticket sales will start this coming monday at noon Pacific whale land dot com
And we will see you there
Luke how are those dates looking for you? Hopefully. Oh, yeah. No, I think so. I think I'm like just generally gonna be at whale lands
May 23rd 24th may yeah when is comfy jacks?
Uh not may 23rd and 24th
I think it'll be shortly afterward
Whoa, it's like what immediately afterward later
Yeah, uh, it's all just a week later. I'll just well normally I go a week early
So maybe I'll just oh, yeah. Yeah. Maybe I'll just come back a week. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's just fine. I've done that too
Yeah, yeah, that's good to know though. I'm happy we just figured that out
Uh, but yeah, I mean I'm intending it. Uh, I'm intending to generally be attending
Yeah, all right, sounds good Yeah, let's get another topic in here another topic. Yeah, look at that Intel's new CPU's are their
fastest gaming desktop processors ever and there was once upon a time a time when I would have said
Wow, the new water is wetter than ever
To in response to that But in fact, um Intel did have a generation of desktop CPU's that
In fact were not their fastest gaming CPU's ever so we can't take that for granted
So this is good news everyone
Intel is super bullish on the recently announced Intel core ultra 7 270 k plus
and core ultra 5 250 k plus
These new chips offer four additional e-cores or efficiency cores compared to their
Their direct predecessors have faster clock speeds and this has got to be a really big one here
Have significantly improved die to die frequency over their predecessors the 265 k and 245 k
This translates to support for 70 200 megatransfer per second RAM as if anyone can afford that these days
And early support for four rank cu dim modules again as if anyone could afford those but
Cool cool cool beans Intel appreciate you
Notably these improvements were achieved without Intel increasing the chips 125 watt TDP
The ultra 7 270 k plus features 8 p cores and 16 e-cores which actually matches the core count of the flagship
core ultra 9 295 k
um Okay, and it is also worth noting that while the 295 k was and in fact the whole lineup of core ultra 200 series was criticized
For uncompetitive pricing and lower gaming performance
Over time they have improved
Pricing has gotten lower And these new refreshed aero lake CPU's are apparently looking to deliver up to a 13 gaming increase
Over their predecessors while coming in at very similar pricing
So the 250 k plus is going to be starting from 199
With the uh 270 k plus starting from uh, this says to 199, but i believe it's 2 99. Yeah, uh, starting from
2 99 so Cheap
no But a 200 chip that Intel claims
Is faster than the 9600 x from AMD
um Comes with that many flipping cores
Like yes, some of them are e-cores, but these Intel uh hybrid
Uh p-core e-core chips tend to be great for non gaming as well
Not to mention all of the gaming improvements Man that seems like
It seems like a pretty compelling value And it's not just hardware where Intel is trying to make gains
Like NVIDIA, they've realized if you can't win with better fabrication
Then you can take the fight to software except NVIDIA also has been using cutting edge fabrication
But yeah, whatever the point is Intel binary optimization tool will be part of their Intel application optimization software package
And is touted as a first of its kind optimization technology hoping to increase
Instructions per clock in certain games by leveraging Intel compiler and profiling ip to streamline library and executable performance
Now i remember a time not that long ago when we considered that kind of optimization to be like cheating
um, and using sort of using non-standard
Uh compilers in order to get a performance benefit compared to your competition and now they're just playing the game
We live in a very very different world. Um
You know remember when remember when making changes to the rendering pipeline on a GPU was cheating
And now that's like NVIDIA's headline feature for their latest GPU's is all the changes that they make to the rendering
pipeline with ai and whatnot and
honestly This implementation sounds very different from the old cheaty way where they would um allegedly
Coerce companies into using their tools that benefited their cpus. It sounds like what's happening here is
They're taking scattered instructions from code that might be optimized for older architectures and repacking them to reduce architectural contention
and it sounds like It won't have a negative impact on the competition. It will just perform better on Intel, which maybe is better than it used to be before
Anyone been around long enough to know if that sounds about right
Anyway, we don't know how well it's going to work until we can try out their, uh, apo software in our upcoming review, but
It seems like from everything that we're seeing communication wise out of Intel. They are extremely bullish
Yeah on these which I
would hope so
So hopefully we're hopefully we're happy about the results
You can hope but like Last time around hope didn't really get us anywhere. Hope's all we can have brother. Nothing else is worth it
Yeah, nothing else is worth it despair is not worth it. It doesn't help you
Anyways, uh Thank you. Do you have any supplements to sell me?
Uh, yeah, I've got a lot of peptides I whatever whatever peptide you want. Tell me your problem and i'll come up with a
Yeah, we should probably stop talking
Jeez
Whatever your element i'll have a pill Um, okay, what do we want to do google's killing the place for monopoly. That's fun. Uh by june 30th developers
You know what? No, hold on. Hold on. We can get to that in a second. First. I want to talk
I had to have the uh, I had to have the snake oil folk medicine conversation with my eldest daughter on this trip
Um, they they all got 20 dollars 20 canadian dollars for a souvenir
um budget And uh, she picked out this little it's like a little woven mat and it has a little cat on it
It's cute. It's a cat on a mat. Whatever. Sure. Um, anyway, the the seller lady
um Was super determined to talk about the air purification and and health benefits of this little
stuffy cat on uh on a little woven mat and um
And kept talking about activated charcoal and I kind of went uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh
And then I had to have the conversation with my daughter after the fact where I go, okay
So this is the most dangerous type of hook em
where There is a grain of truth
Upon which a tower of lies and misunderstandings is built
Does activated charcoal have odor reduction qualities?
Yes. Yeah, totally However
Only if we are actively running air through it not if it's just
Sitting there on your dresser And we need to have a way to either swap out the you're gonna gut that fake cat activated charcoal
Or we have to have a way of removing it and putting it out in the sun to reactivate it
Neither of those things are true. It's just
activated charcoal In a pillow
That just sits there and has no way to replace it or recharge it. And so we just need to you know
learn To I read this really interesting article on the atlantic earlier this week about how
Western society has a major problem
with both gullibility and cynicism and being
gullible to the wrong things and cynical about
The wrong things. How can you be so gullible and so?
Accepting of anything that's that someone tells you no matter how ridiculous it sounds and at the same time
So cynical and disbelieving of
Of experts and there's a there's a lot of like super super deep reasons for it that the article only
skims the surface of but um
It's it's fascinating and it's something that has sort of been on my mind as something that we really have to
flag Flag with our kids and talk about, you know, how to navigate your way through you should be cynical
And you should believe people
But you've got to make sure that you're cynical of the right things and you believe the right people
Otherwise, you're going to end up in in deep trouble. Like one of the things the article touched on is how
Smart people, you know, let's not just be dismissive and say well anyone who believes in something stupid is too stupid
Not that simple Smart people who live in a bubble who live in an information echo chamber can end up believing some
Some some some shockingly It's like the the desire to for something to be true can also influence how much you believe that it is true and like
Yeah, life is floating jumping in with hey these fries would be like super healthy
And you could eat as many as you want if if only they were fried in beef tallow instead of ooh scary seed oils
It's like Yeah, I yeah, you know if I just wanted to like enjoy french fries. I might love to believe that I can ignore
It tastes amazing Not gonna deny it tastes good, but that ain't what we're talking about. Totally. Yeah. Yeah
Yeah, Errol does says I work around so many brilliant people in tech and some of them
Believe the silliest scams and wee woo things. Yeah
100% Oh, no, everyone's like piping up with
Piping up with their stuff Uh
Magnetic flux my grandma thinks vegan burgers make people gay. No. No. No. See that's correlation not causation
This is is joke
I love me a good vegan burger wait. Oh, no, this is my mouse. Wait a minute
It turns the freaking youtubers
Oh
Man Apparently there's an xkcd for this of course there is I think there is for everything
Um Oh, okay. No, it's not that good. I'm normal to be clear love xkcd
Um, I didn't didn't personally appreciate that one that much. All right
I guess I'll do another topic. Oh, yeah, right. You were gonna do the thing
So wait, sorry. I'm doing one thing The topic
Which oh good. Yeah by june 30th developers in the us uk and the european economic area
Okay, uh, we'll see the stand. We'll see the standard 30 percent in-app purchases fee
On the google play store dropped to 20 percent for the first time
Sorry for first time installs of apps after the new fees launch recurring subscription service fees will drop to 10 percent
furthermore google is introducing a new business model intended to decouple the fees
By separating the cost of their billing system from the service fee
Developers that opt into google play's billing system in the us uk or europe will have to fork over an additional 5 percent
However, mobile developers will Officially have the option to use their own billing system alongside or in place of google's
In rolling into google's new apps experience program will drop the service fee to 15 percent for new installs
The rollout will gradually hit australia japan and korea by the end of the year and the rest of the world late
2027 apart from cutting fees google is also launching a registered app store
Program thing that will streamline the process for third-party app stores like epic games as long as they meet certain quality benchmarks
So it's an app store for app stores Hold on a minute
No, no, no, no, it's not a store for app stores, but you can have an app store program quality benchmarks
So you'll you'll work with google to have like an epic games app store on
on Android Okay
Sure I don't know what I think about that, but all right, uh more topics. I guess maybe
Oh, I mean I I can can we it's full payment sponsors
Can we shout out what can we shout out a guy who I don't always agree with but who I I got a shout out here
um Who else would have had the balls to go toe to toe with apple and google and force this change, but epic games is tim sweeney
I uh Yeah
Oh, man, this is another one of those ones where at the time I took a ton of flak for just being like
Yeah, obviously the app store and the play store are a huge antitrust problem and the fact that people are pretending
they can't see it is just corporate boot liqoury of the highest order and
Especially apple people were like You know what the app store to pee we like the iphone the way it is. We love the taste of leather. It's so good
um And other things. Yeah, no this was it was like just objective a thing vegetable and bean burgers
It was it was it was a it was definitely a thing
and and and courts and and google
And apple all know everybody knows
It was just a matter of time until you could figure it out. And uh, this is great
I'm um I'm I'm very
Very very excited. Uh, eroldo says I refuse to accept the hypocrisy of simping for steam
That's the thing and again, this is this is like you need to you need to read more
Steam has things about it that
Where they where valve leverages their quite dominant position
But they are not in fact a monopoly because they just like aren't
because You're not bound to use steam in any way. You can go on go g you can go on epic games
You can go anywhere you want and you can download a game for any platform where you can also
Get that game on steam it is
and steam Unlike the app store and the google play store is not owned by the platform owner
That's why it just isn't the same thing
At all and i'm sorry, but I can't be the one to explain it to you. You're going to have to go and just
Learn more about monopolistic behavior and anti competitive laws and stuff
cool
Shall we do the Floatplane announcement and do it spongers?
Uh, yeah Floatplane announcement. Let's do it. Where is it?
We all have an embarrassing tech store. You're too so riley sought out some embarrassing moments from members
of the LMG team it features elijah who admitted to
a crime adam who blew out his partner's ears
with music that was too loud and james who bought a laptop that cost
$2,300 at the time just to play team fortress 2
That's a yikes But where is david you might ask?
No one ever asked. How is david? Oh, it's okay. I I did the delivery on that totally wrong anyway
His setup from five years ago the point is david showcased a setup and how much it's changed from his original
Ultimate tech upgrade. Uh, he's got his man cave upgrade in there and shows what it looks like today
Also, if you are from brazil or think brazil is cool or you don't understand tariffs and you want to understand tariffs better
And how they can be like really bad for consumers. Uh, you might want to check out the early release
Um, luke are you are you showing any of this? Yeah, we're gonna keep going. Oh, yeah, there you go
Tariffs tariffs tariffs All of this and more at LMG dot gg slash f p
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Hold on. Hold on. Give me a second lozer says Linus valve and steam is creating that environment with steam os with the
With the ownership of the platform and that
You're trying so hard to make this a thing
But it still isn't because steam os still
totally supports other app stores
with valve taking absolutely Count them zero dollars and having zero involvement
In that transaction. So it's still
Completely not the same thing I'm sorry, but no amount of trying to make steam
The same thing as the app store and the google play store is going to make it the same thing
Because it's just not the same thing and it's just not going to work
Steam could be compared to one of the app stores that is now allowed to potentially be on there
Yep, totally. And if one of them had an extremely dominant position
That enabled them to do certain things that that could be anti-competitive
Then we could draw a parallel there because valve does have an opportunity to do certain things that can be anti-competitive
but one of those things is not the thing that
Tim Sweeney was complaining about with the app store and iOS and the tight integration and control
over transactions and payments and the availability of apps for the platform
they're just Not the same thing
Magic cheeseburger says I agree with you. It's not about agreement. It's about like this is a fact that it just is a thing
But if you delete steam if you leave steam you lose all your games forever. Yes
Yes, you do, but that is nothing to do with what we're talking about. Cool, dude
All right Oh, man
I don't know do I you know, I think part of it. Luke. I think one of the big challenges we have is that you and I watch every WAN Show
And most viewers don't So all I don't watch every WAN Show
Well, no, I just read the comments there for it though. Oh my god. So
So we end up in this situation Oh
Why are you so why are you so down on Linux and you never criticize Windows and it's like
She's like so the previous show's title Could literally be you know Windows is cooked, you know, yeah, I can point about all the time
Their own exposure bias Is that all they see and hear is the thing that's making them emotional right now? Yeah, it's like guys
We criticize steam and valve all the time
Windows is becoming like
Very very rapidly terrible. I I had this whole thing where like I was getting really nostalgic
About old Windows. Actually. I was thinking back to like how much I just really enjoyed
Using Windows xp and I know people go if you go back now. It's it's terrible. It's like, yeah, that's cool for the time it was
Amazing and then you look at vista was based and it's like a lot of people have terrible memories of vista
Because they bought a laptop from best buy with 512 megs of RAM and tried to run vista on it and that was terrible
Terrible terrible terrible, but when I had some better hardware and especially when I had a custom version of vista, dude
Vista black edition was so
Sick, it was amazing. I loved using vista
Especially late in the game when I had better hardware and especially a custom version
But I still really actually liked using vista arrow looked amazing. It just couldn't run on your crappy laptop
Okay, and then seven came out and seven was
Amazing again people keep talking about this like oh, it's good and then bad and the good and bad
In my opinion not really it was kind of just good and then the hardware wasn't ready and then good
Um, like vista was actually fantastic like printers printer compatibility on vista was a nightmare
Yeah um Then then we get eight and eight out of the gate
was To use the young people's probably out of date term by this point dog water
But 8.1 came out and with a little time with a little bit of
Time in the marinade 8.1 was actually really solid
Especially if you got the the Windows 9 thing and got the custom version all that kind of stuff
Fantastic and then we hit Windows 10 and it was like ooh now
Now It's still edible
But something's wrong with it I don't necessarily know what it is. There's still Windows all my stuff still kind of works
You left the sticker on when you were eating it. Yeah
Something's just okay, and then Windows 11 came out and then it was like okay. No like this for sure still works
But is clearly Bad for me like something something is not good. Have they fixed 11 yet? I am being food poisoned
And then I think with looking at 12 on the horizon like it's just we were doing this thing, right?
We're like they'd stumble a little like amazing launch
Maybe a little bit of a stumble because of hardware, but then amazing
Just amazing and then really troublesome launch
But then they totally fixed it and then now we're just literally just doing this and it feels terrible
And you can jump off the ship Early and maybe have some troubles trying to learn Linux
Um and maybe come back to Windows Who knows but gain a little bit of familiarity or you can jump off later when it's like just death or or I don't know
Or microsoft will maybe but I doubt it actually listen to some people and stop just doing this with their operating system
which By god, I will I will volunteer. I expect best nothing
You never you never even have to admit that I helped you I require no compensation
I will tell you all of the things you need to do to make it not garbage anymore. No problem
I am yours to be resourced
But you won't do it down You know what? You know what? Yeah, Linus will come with me. We'll figure it out
If you want Windows 12 to be like the ai operating system
I think this is still possible. You can still accomplish that goal and still make it not complete crap
I like You can do it
I I don't believe you're going to but you totally I know a lot of people
I know a lot of people are are are are just sort of like
Reflexively against anything that has ai of any sort involved in it
I'm not I actually agree with you that Windows 12 could be could have could have ai as a central part of the experience
And all they need to do to make that palatable to everyone who doesn't want it
I bet you were gonna say the same thing make it so i can remove it. Yep done
It's be able to turn it off be able to remove it make it modular
So I could plug my own in make it so I could make it have it so that
Make it so the first time I press the co-pilot button it goes
Hey, I'm co-pilot. Do you want me to rebind this button to something else?
But Right now I do this what an idea
Do you want it? It can also do this other thing or like I like I would I would love it
If they built these systems where it can work with your computer in really good ways and then
I could be like right But I don't want it phoning home to microsoft all the time and literally screen recording everything
I do and putting in your server farm just for someone else to steal it So I would like to use my own resources run some stuff locally and then be able to just plug my own thing in
And it still has those capabilities that would be awesome. You could make a really really cool Windows 12
I don't believe you're going to so i'm trying to jump off the ship early, but man
I will help you for free. I will put in time. I'll put in hours. You don't have to tell anyone. You don't have to compensate me
Please it's too bad because they are doing some stuff that is pretty cool
Um, I I left my I left my rg ally
On our last trip. I'm getting it back. I did find it. So that's cool
But on our trip down to zero trust world. I left my ally. So I I grabbed a handheld to bring on this trip and
Ultimately didn't end up needing it like I said Linux challenge and I'm using my laptop for gaming right now
But it had the it had the new the new gaming optimized Windows on it
and It's it's pretty cool
The the xbox interface on the on the rog ally x series x or whatever the stupid thing is called
it's like legitimately Pretty cool and the RAM usage is way lower like
Microsoft is putting in work. They're optimizing stuff
They just have to not be at the same time
Breaking things and moving the user experience backwards like dude
You were talking about the CPU usage issues that you're having over there right now, right? Yeah
Okay, do you want to know what my CPU usage is right now?
Yeah, what? It's hovering between about three and a half
to Four and a half five percent. What's your memory? And that's with that's with everything
I'm doing right now. So I have the live stream running. I have the chat open
I have the separate window where I have
The the call running I have that app for my phone capture
So I have wi-fi up the butt because I'm also
I couldn't get the wired connection working for my my phone as my webcam
So I have all that data streaming in
And I'm sitting at a handful of percent now
I do have a lot of RAM use But I think that's just because when a soos sent this laptop to me
They sent me like a fully loaded version, which is honestly crazy given the current situation
I have 128 gigs of RAM in this machine So I'm using 12 gigs of RAM
But when I look at my applications I am sitting at a total of under two gigs
So I think that's probably just
the os just caching
everything so so mine I have chrome open with admittedly
Three flow plane tabs one google sheet one google search the steam hardware survey and the LTT Store
Um, I have one notepad open with one page on it and I have the task manager open and that's it
I'm hovering between 15 and 20 CPU usage
I'm at 52 percent memory usage and usually around five to ten percent disc because the Windows module installer worker is still just
Rip it. It hasn't it hasn't stopped once
It's still the number one process. It has constantly been the number one process
The next one is like a Windows event log. I just that just went down. It kind of jumps up and down all the time
Um, and now I I talked about this when we recorded this before the show
We do have sentinel one running. We do have ninja rmm running
Those are in there. Those are never like the number one through five
But they are floating around so it's like there are there is some stuff that we installed running in the background, but
All my Linux desktop back at home there are there's things running I have stuff I have been using it as a desktop for a while. This happens when you have a system, you know
um It's just I mean like chrome is like usually like five to eight in the in the top processes like
And this thing, uh, it's it's mostly calmed down now before on camera without touching it
We saw it spiked to like 75 CPU usage and it wasn't sentinel one or any of those other things
Uh, I mean threat lockers also on here. It's just not showing up in like, uh, a highly like a super heavy process compared to these other ones right now
um Comparatively like recall is recall is part of it
Oh god the recall preview the recall preview. It probably sneaked its way back in
Yeah, I neutered those before I deployed them. You can I'm sure Dan can see it on my screen now recall sitting right there
I'm looking at mine. I'm sitting at 50 CPU usage with a cool 42 gigs of memory usage. Yeah, but you're well
Yeah, but you're handling this I'm so much better than you guys
It's not fair. My Ferrari is so much faster than your bicycle
I'm just a better person
Yeah
All right, I think we're supposed to do sponsors now. I can't believe recalls there
I I know that Dan killed it too. I must have snuck its way back in this is like
This is what i'm talking about dude get out of here
I'm gonna do another pass and rip out more of its brain
The recall preview. I learned how to neuter Windows 11. So i'm a little happier with it now
Did I restore your right click menus on the desktop? I can't remember if I did that on those ones or not
I did I would have noticed if my right click wasn't working that would have made me extremely angry. Yeah
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All right, should we talk about Linux hacked onto a ps5 effectively turning sony's console into a steam machine
security engineer andy new yin Successfully ported Linux to a ps5 slim by bypassing sony's hypervisor using an exploit called
Bi-pervisor, which has got to be the best name of an exploit. I've heard in like so long
Bi-pervisor is so good
It grants kernel level control and allows unsigned code to run the hack required firmware version 1.0 to 2.0
Though which is about five years old. So if you've been keeping your playstation up to date
This isn't really going to be a thing for you. However, once you got it running it
Was kind of awesome The modded console could run gta 5 enhanced edition via steam at 1440p 60 FPS with ray tracing enabled
And because it's a ps5 supports 4k HDMI output audio and even had all the usb ports running
The CPU runs at 3.2 gigahertz and GPU at 2 gigahertz with boost capabilities, although it did start overheating at higher clock speeds
sony actually used to allow something similar on the playstation
My notes say the ps3 had the other os feature and if you go back even farther
You could just get a Linux disk that you could put in your playstation and run Linux on it
When we did our i bought every playstation video. We actually showed it
um But they don't allow it anymore, but apparently nothing would prevent it
And it would honestly in my humble opinion luke
be The best Solution right now for really really cool considering you can run ps5 games. That's so sick
I used Yeah, I used ps5 that could dual boot sony's playstation operating system
And Linux to just like run steam
would be The goat gaming machine for that price like killer super super super cool
Our discussion question here is with sony rumored to be pulling back from pc releases
Does a hack like this hint at a future where console hardware could be repurposed as a pc as the lines between pc's and consoles keep blurring
Unfortunately, I don't think so. I think the sony rumor that they're pulling back from pc releases
If anything indicates that sony wants to draw
clearer lines between their consoles and general-purpose software pcs
In the lead-up to the release of the playstation 6. I think they
Are recognizing that later in the console's life cycle. It's very beneficial to take that software
and tap into a new market with it and sell a bunch of
you know spider-man to pc gamers
But if you want to move the machine if you want to create the install base
You got to have exclusives and I remember talking about this back with the original steam machine where I was like, yeah, I understand valve's like
Good guy philosophy where they don't want to have
exclusivity, you know, you know
Locked games for the steam machine and they want to be open
But at the end of the day Games move consoles. It's that simple and I think sony is
Either recognizing or this was the plan the whole time that when they launch a new generation
there is absolutely No way that they are not going to be that they are going to be a success without exclusive titles
It's just not going to happen man. Microsoft So they're like losing
consoles they're
I think people are genuinely getting just a little too over it when it comes to operating systems
I don't think we're quite there yet, but There are actually it does seem to be a lot more people that I've been hearing from actually genuinely switching over to Linux lately
Especially normie people. Yep that are mad about it. Sorry. I thought you were gonna say that are that are fed up with it
No, yeah, I uh, I I know I know people that
used a steam deck and we're just like
Wait, this is fine. I'm like just actually replace their computers with steam decks
And they don't even think of it as like I'm running Linux
They're just like, yeah, I use a steam deck and it's fine. Like I don't even know if they're really fully understanding like what that means
Um, it's steam os, but that's the thing Linux is not a distro Linux is not an operating system
Yeah, I think steam os is going to be the one azure is running
Linux so pilot is
kind of Open a i powered like what are they?
It's like the office company now teams. Yeah, the worst chat
I guess but like honest this is
What what have you had to do anything? I'm assuming. Yeah, have you had have you had to do anything with like documentation so far on Linux?
What have you been using libra only office? What have you been using?
Have you used any of it? I just use google docs google docs. Yeah
I had to sign some pdfs recently and uh, I I went with only office just to give it a shot
And it was Really easy and totally fine
Right, did you have to pay like Like five bucks for a picture nothing it's feed or like I'd also I thought this was kind of funny
There's definitely more things when you download office 365. I feel like I didn't hear something
Um That's okay. Everyone else got it. There's there's definitely more things that you're downloading when you download office 365
But only office downloaded fast and it like takes a while to download office 365
And you have to jump through a bunch of login hoops and do all these different types of things
And like I was probably done signing my first document before I would have been done
installing office Um, yeah
Oh, you have to I remember for years It was a pain in the butt to even find the download link for office 365 because they had it behind a login
And then you would download it and then you'd have to log in anyway I don't know if it's super annoying with creative cloud
But that would they had a really similar situation where getting the creative cloud
application download link Involved logging in and then you'd have to log in again once you got it
It's like what is the downside of just letting me download this thing and then I'll log in once I get it
Yeah Yeah, yeah, it's uh, but yeah, it's I mean it was a pretty great experience. Um
So just want to throw that out there, but yeah microsoft stop taking ells bruh. I liked it when you were cool. I really
God this whole Linux thing has been fun. I would really love to to enjoy Windows again
It would be so that's something That I think a lot of people miss in all of our takes on basically everything
Is that we are not Pro one side one sec. Sorry Dan is that pro competition. Is this going to the to the viewers?
Can they see this mouse cursor? What what there's a mouse. Oh, that's my mouse cursor. Yeah, are you hallucinating a mouse cursor? No, there's a mouse
I'm sorry. It was on the wrong screen. Can they even see that? No, that's that's my fourth monitor. Oh, so that's just for me
Okay, don't keep it there. Anyway, um, we are we're pro competition
competition between Windows and Linux and macOS and competition between Android and iphone and and competition between
xbox and playstation So you're gonna see us like like I've seen people who are like
Why this always flip flops anyway, you know, he's not consistent. Yeah, I'm not consistent
We're trying to support underdogs in a time When NVIDIA is so dominant in gpus, for instance
You're gonna hear me say hey like Intel's doing some really cool stuff
Over there right now and it's really important that we acknowledge that because we need competition
And in the same way, you know, even though I might
Say that from a day-to-day use perspective, there's a lot of aspects of the Linux experience that are not working too great for me
You're still gonna hear me talk about how the microsoft
Dominance in the operating system space has to be challenged because otherwise we end up with what we've got now
a monopoly always Encrapifies always every single time it will turn to crap eventually because competition
Puts pressure on us to do better. And so you're always going to hear that from us
Yeah Yeah Speaking of which live nation ticket master agreed to settle a federal antitrust lawsuit with the department of justice
Uh, and apparently they they won't be broken up
The doj reached a surprise settlement with live nation just one week into its landmark antitrust trial
Allowing the company to keep ticket master without admitting any wrongdoing the deal cap service fees at 15
percent at live nation menus bars
Oh at live nation menus bars ticket master from requiring exclusive contracts with large
Ampitheaters and requires all acquisitions to be submitted to the doj for approval regardless of size. Well, okay
The middle one is actually Not that that helps a lot
The exclusive contracts one. Yeah, the whole exclusive contracts thing. However in my humble opinion, that's not enough carry on
Yeah, not at all Uh, the settlement blindsided state state attorneys general more than 25 states and
DC say they're continuing the trial anyway
The presiding judge called the process entirely unacceptable after it emerged
The doj and live nation had already signed
a What had already signed a preliminary agreement on thursday without
Notifying the states giving them only 24 hours to decide whether to join seat geek called it incredibly disappointing senator
Amy klobuchar Said breaking up the company is the only real fix and rival promoters say 16 years of surface level remedies
Haven't worked the settlement still needs final court approval
With more than half the states rejecting the deal and continuing the trial does a settlement that lets live nation keep ticket
ticket master actually solve anything
The current doj is I look i'm not american so take this for all it is but the current doj appears
to be an enormous problem for people who want things like this
Which are important things that that impact everyday people lots of people
um Seems to be the most people massive massive problem
My friends call me they're like wow, that's so many people
It is it is so many people. I mean if you buy a ticket for basically freaking anything you have to deal with ticket master and the
um The clearly back alley deal that was done to reach this settlement
um It's just so clear that it should be a wake-up call to anyone who's
Not certain how clear this was That it was very clear that this was a back alley corrupt deal and
Charcoal nun nyan says but have you seen the dow?
Dude Yeah, exactly exactly the dow though
But the dow It's it is so fascinating watching politicians and billionaires
Talk about the stock market as though it matters to what what percentage is it?
Of uh of even people in in affluent countries like even in north america
What percentage is it of people who actually own stocks?
I know that a lot of people will have part of their retirement
um invested In uh invested in stocks
But in terms of like actual like having a personal portfolio
My understanding is it is the the investment class is
Shockingly small. I know the I think is the top 1 percent own 50 percent of the entire stock market
um Yeah, no key says 62 percent of u.s. Adults own stocks apparently but that includes that's the thing
Hold on hold on Yeah, how much though like we've got people in chat that are like yeah, I own I own four grand in stocks
I own I own like a couple grand in stocks
When the when the stock market goes up, you know 10 percent
It's like you made 400 dollars, which is like yeah, okay great as long as
Uh, you know inflation isn't going wild and that's not just you know treading water
But like in terms of people who own like significant
value of stocks like I remember I remember reading that it's like it's like shockingly small
Um, I don't know the exact numbers. Erldo says it's something like the wealthiest 10 percent own 87 to 93 percent of the actual like
dollar value of the stocks though. It's like, okay
cool
Yeah, I'm not uh, not much of a stock guy I do feel I honestly I feel like I've like missed out over this
Incredible like what is it like a 20 year bull run or something like that at this point?
business insider in 2024 said that the wealthiest 10 percent of americans own 93 percent of stocks
Even with market participation at a record high
Cool But the dow is pretty freaking sick, dude
Let's let the oh man. No I'm gonna lose it. I need to
In through the mouth out through the nose
What can we talk about don't worry though about that
Because the the dock just moved don't worry about that because the steam machine is coming
Even with rising DRAM prices around the world and a slight delay in the steam machine release
Valve posted a blog post that the steam machine steamframe and steam controller would all arrive
In 2026 on that train our goal of shipping all three products in the first half of the year
This is a quote has not changed But we have work to do to land on concrete pricing and launch dates
They did also skate in the blog post that if you have a line on a bunch of RAM
We are in the market and would like to buy which is you know, probably a
A joke but still maybe someone will
Uh discussion question going back to the original discussion about steam machine and the price it would hit
It would have to hit Do you think your original guesses about price would make this more appealing to people now that DRAM prices have affected things?
So much
Uh, yeah, I feel like it kind of has to be yes
Because if it is more appealing, yeah, because I relative things are going to be accurate
It's going to go up. Yeah, uh, but then again, I okay, so I guess a little higher though. I wonder
Here's where I get a little confused though On the one hand. Yeah DRAM pricing has gone bananas and so has nand flash
But then on the other hand apple just released a $600 laptop that from my understanding
It is like trivially easy to get an educational discount on and is $4.99
With the educational discount. Yeah, it's only got eight gigs of RAM. Sure, but but still
Like price competitive products are clearly still able to be released still possible
And but then again There you go, I was talking to the the writers about this and someone was like, how are they doing this and
My guess is that apple locked in their contract for this stuff like two years ago because they operate on a time scale
And and a general scale that they have few other companies have the bank to do that kind of stuff
um And on top of that speaking of that macbook neo co-CEO of ASUS flip in loves it and is also
Pretty scared of it ASUS co-CEO
who sue
S. Y. Sue Sue Oh, I was just trying to do the last thing. Yeah, s y sue
Called the apples 599 macbook neo or 499 if you're clever a shock to the entire pc industry
Which honestly, yeah saying apple has never competed at this price point before
Sue said all major pc players microsoft Intel and AMD are actively discussing how to respond to the macbook neo threat
And they probably should be to be completely honest despite this
He attempted to downplay the neo's appeal pointing to his eight gigabytes of non-upgradable unified memory and calling it more
Of a content consumption device similar to an ipad also known as what almost everyone uses their laptops for
The verges he didn't include that part I put that in there the verges review also flagged slow SSD speeds as another notable limitation alongside the RAM cap
Again, it's six hundred bucks
Um, that said most outlets are reviewing the device quite positively and demand from the market is
Notable and i'm not surprised. That's amazing, dude
What a crazy piece of hardware
Um, our discussion question is do you agree with sue's assessment that the neo is just a content consumption device?
Or is that maybe just a cope? I actually do
Mostly agree But I don't think it's the gotcha that maybe he hopes that it is because to luke's point
The vast majority of what people are doing on their laptop
Is content consumption if you go to macbook air
What were you doing with it? Yeah Yeah
Content consumption maybe maybe you did some garage band for fun. I'm sure that still works. I wouldn't be surprised if you can do some
Not super crazy final cut
Oh Sue is pronounced shoe shoe. Okay. Thank you. Mellow geek. I thought something might have been wrong. Sorry about that
I thought it was sue Anyway shoe
Um, also, I think this is just the first volley
Apple never no matter how catastrophically a product performs
Apple never launches just one
I should okay. No, I shouldn't say Never there might be an example at some point
But like even vision pro, okay Got it. Yeah, I got a follow-up people are trying to gotcha me with the vision pro
Got a new model. Yeah, okay newton the pippin the pippin. Yeah, okay, where's our pippin?
Yeah, we lost our pippin. We don't know where it is. I uh, I should have been stolen
Yeah, if spanky2k says even the weird hi-fi thing led to the home pod
Yep, like they apple doesn't release a product
In a vacuum They release a product with a freaking road map with a freaking plan
Okay, the trash can poke brick. Yeah, the trash can was kind of a disaster
Not in a long time though, okay, it's been a long time still I'm still standing
It's just a different form factor for their desktop product line though
It was but it was also kind of a dead end in terms of the paradigm the paradigm of
The mac pro as this like kind of locked down no expansion cards
Yeah, but like the mac pro existed before that. I understand what you're saying. I I see the logic, but I don't think it 100% fits
I see that in both ways. I see that in both. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah for sure the point that I'm getting at
The point I'm getting at here is the macbook neo is almost certainly the first
In a line of macbook neos And I guarantee you that if they didn't have the limitation of only eight gigs of RAM
On top of the package for the a18 processor
That they would have at least considered allowing you to pay for a memory upgrade
I mean apple loves having people pay for a memory upgrade or a storage upgrade now
They didn't go far in terms of the storage upgrades that are available on it
That does tend to be a way that apple differentiates their top models
So for instance the the latest iphone you have to buy the pro if you want to get I believe is it two terabytes or four terabytes of storage
Whatever it is whatever the top storage configuration it is you you have to get a pro
and I would expect them to not offer a macbook neo with
200 gigs of memory and freaking four terabytes of storage or whatever that is a differentiating point for them
But I would be shocked if the next one doesn't allow 12 gigs
Or 16 gigs as we make our way through subsequent releases and with the way that
Software optimization is going right now
um 16 gigs of ddr4 was like
Good and a lot and 16 gigs of ddr5 is pretty good and a lot and
Like we it's if you think about it. It's actually been quite a while
Since we've really needed More than eight to 16 gigs. You know what I mean? It's mostly been websites, but you can just close tabs
Yeah, it's it's just it's just a little bit of convenience. It's not so much capability that much for most users
Exactly and so if we see an a19 pro chip with 12 gigs of RAM in a next gen
Man that thing is going to be killer. It's just going to be killer. It's going to it's going to destroy
the the the budget Windows machine market
Like apple is dude apple is freaking
They're out for blood like it's like they want market share for a change. Good mac mini is already like the computer to buy
Distro depths on the Linux on a certain price seem to be hungry and apple seems to be hungry
And i'm very happy because Microsoft needs some people chomping at them
Um Microsoft can be great again. I I believe in a positive future for microsoft. I just they have to get focused
They have to get focused man. Oh my god. They're going to luke and not soon eight or nine percent of their business
It's less than 10 percent of their business I just don't think they're paying attention. They're not focused on it
I mean they went and they put that ai exec in charge of xbox like what are they?
Yeah, but if you start if you start losing Windows Windows is
A part of you're talking revenue And for sure, but I think if you start losing Windows
You start losing three six five subscriptions
Oh, you're a hundred percent right like I think it's I think it's this like
It's it's their infrastructure department kind of that happens to make money
I'm talking about the the dangerous path that they could be heading down. Oh, totally. Yeah, if they if they manage their business based on
Counting beans Yeah, you gotta you got so many beans dude. You got so many beans coming in your your bean income seems to be pretty good
You should probably work on uh Making it so that the thing that supports all your incoming beans is a little bit better just let and
Okay, honestly, I'm gonna use that argument The like it's eight percent or whatever just make it awesome
Whatever get the stupid ads out and stuff and just make it really good and go back to the whole just
Everyone uses Windows therefore microsoft wins by default thing that worked for you so well
And just make money off a zoo or and make money off office three six five business subscriptions
Whatever because every single freaking person in the world is using uh Windows because everyone has these cheap laptops
And because if you don't do that everyone's just gonna get macbooks because they're
For a business, you know, their businesses aren't going to do the student discount thing for a business
There's 600 bucks and if they run pretty good a lot of users would love to have macbooks
Anyways
We're reviewing right now our our subscription software at at work and
We've been running into the like Okay, well, it's incredibly uncomfortable
but we're probably gonna have to make a choice finally between google workspace and and
Microsoft And there's a lot of pushback in each direction. I think if I could speak for them most of the it team
Kind of wants to lean towards the microsoft route. Um, I think from an it perspective it's
Easier and better for them I
viciously hate teams sorry
Sorry, we'd be ditching teams. Are we talking about ditching teams? We're talking about ditching something either google workspace or
Office 365 which includes teams
Um, because each one of these are massive very expensive contracts. I'm trying to save you tons of money
Is ultimately what's going on. Oh, I'm I'm very aware. Yeah, so we're trying to figure out one of them if we ditch
365 The like popular tech bro route is to use slack and google workspace, but slack is so expensive
Yeah, which sucks and people are saying matter most just you know, you can talk to each other if you want
Um, it's so it's it's it's this thing, but there is the curveball
I didn't I said I didn't believe them. I didn't believe them for a year. I said on when I didn't believe them
I was at google and saw people's laptops. They actually use chat
They actually just use google chat Are we going to go full circle and go back to so it's we're trying to figure out
We're trying to figure out. Do we go to chat and hangouts? Do we go to chat and hangouts and google workspace?
Keeping our like insane pile
of Things that are in google drive. Yeah
Yeah, so do we honestly even though I hate teams honestly probably sacrifice in the chat department?
Yeah, and Still have to have some people like the accounting teams. They're still going to need
Stripped down licenses for microsoft so they can have things like excel. They just need excel excel is just the best at what it does
I I dog on a ton of microsoft things, but local desktop excel is just unassailable as far as I can tell at this point
So they just need excel some of the teams might need excel people that need excel will have a license that gets them excel
Uh, but we don't mess around with too much other stuff or do we go the other route?
And keep teams. Yeah, but have to migrate all of this stuff out of google drive
You're gonna have to you're gonna have to find my google docs from my cold dead hands
See, this is this is the thing is for people like you
I think it would be easier to go the google route, but for other people it might be easier to go the other route and
It's rough because both of these companies their subscriptions are going Whoop
Because they're trying to bundle AI stuff and make us you can't really get out of those contracts that include AI
They're just starting to include AI by default and then cranking the price because of it and like all this crap is getting really expensive
Um, also, I think because there was like some unlimited data loophole thing or something
But back in the day you guys signed up for a pricey google workspace subscription
Um, so there is a way that we could actually like half basically the google workspace subscription
And that was because we were using it for cloud backup and then nobody ever cancelled it, I guess. Yep
Uh, so we were probably just gonna for one video. That was it's we think that it's still there
Uh, so we're very likely going to drop there's other things we would lose though
Like that way that we figured out that email issue that you had we would like lose that
Um, so there there are things but we've only ever used that twice
There was one for a document security thing A while ago that you are aware of that i'm not going to go into details for
Um, that I would have needed that tier for And there was uh your email thing those are like the only two things I can remember that we that's pretty good though
It is but those are the only two times we've ever really used it
and it's like 30k a year or something so
Jebus you might you might want to just drop it
um And i'm not gonna lie. We do need to we do need to look at our expenses
I mean, I've been I think I've been very very clear internally and you know talking to the audience on wanshow
That we don't operate in the same environment
That we used to and we're gonna have to find some efficiency
Um, I don't know if you saw this luke probably not because you don't stare at the the views dashboard as obsessively as I do
But over the last little while the last like week or so we've had quite a few releases closer to like our old daily cadence and
Um, a handful of them actually like performed quite well
And the the channel was just like going and then we had one day that we didn't upload
And the overnight dip which was something that I would look at traditionally in order to determine what the kind of like
The background Viewership is you know, aside from your your new release like your hottest new video
Dipped below what it was before we had a bunch of like good performing videos over the last little while
so the the just like background
Vaude viewership of The library of content that we've produced over the years
is just going down As people's interest in the tech hobby wanes and we can see this with like, uh,
google, um What's the search relevancy tool again? So we're asking if his feet is like I think that's just him being
There's like there's like half a second of there in back time. He's literally across the planet
It's I've been pretty happy with the stream so far. Sorry keep going
Yeah doing our best And also as youtube, uh, emphasizes shorts more and more and more
It's just uh, the the the back catalog and the competition increases for for people's eyeballs
Those those back catalog videos are just not
Getting any views anymore Oh, wow. No, I'm getting like really choppy now. Uh, oh it'll self-rex flight
Anyway, the point is that we're gonna have to find some we're gonna have to find some
Efficiency Thankfully, we are pretty well diversified
We, you know, we have the creator warehouse, uh, LTT Store team. Oh, oh good lord. Is my voice okay at least
Getting some robot, but your voice is fine
Okay, cool, that's great Um, so yeah, if we could lose one of these subscriptions, I would find it extremely hilarious if we ultimately went full circle back to freaking
Uh hangouts whatever they call it now
Yeah, I I don't know what we're going to do We we are probably going to do that subscription reduction thing
But we need to really figure out all the different levels of impact and then make sure that people are okay with us
You know, not actually having certain levels of tools
Um, but it would save a ton of money. So it's probably worth it
But we need to figure that out still and then After that that seems like just we should definitely
AJ identified that and we should just like definitely look into that first
But then we have basically until the end of the year
Because there are such massive penalties to early cancellation
um, we have basically till the end of the year to figure this out and
When AJ pointed out like look the cancelate early cancellation fees are so bad. There's basically no point in doing so
um And the contract renewals are basically at the end of the year. It was like, okay
We have some time Because this is going to be insane and painful no matter what route we go. It will be bad. There is no like
This is going to be a hard sell internally because there is no route without pain, but
It will be a massive reduction in cost no matter what direction we go. So
We're gonna kind of need a direction youtube and going in the direction of
More and more shorts all the time They clearly aren't going to change course anytime soon because it turns out youtube makes more money from ads than disney paramount and warner bros
combined According to research firm moffitt nathanson youtube earned 40.4
billion in ad revenue while disney nbc paramount and warner bros earned 36.1 billion combined
parent company alphabet confirmed last month that in 2025 youtube generated 60
billion with a b in revenue
Which still trails behind meta which generated 196.2 billion in ad revenue
But uh, this isn't google versus meadow youtube. Yeah
Yeah, not all of alphabet. That is pretty freaking incredible. And I think
One of the most recent insights we've gotten into exactly how
youtube is doing Revenue wise
The female audience says hey, wait a minute Linus doesn't paramount own warner brothers now that that is still
Happening that's still pending But but yes, the offer is in and I is
Functionally accepted, but they are still operating today as separate companies until such time as the acquisition is complete
So, um, yeah, I still have my only question for there we go
Oh, am I gone? No. No, you're back. Cool
Okay, my only question for youtube is when will it be enough and can you stop in gupifying the service?
Because I heard they just added 30 second unskippable ads to tv's
Will 30 seconds be enough for you? Are we just going to go all the way back to cable tv with like three minute ad breaks?
Can we not? Please can we just not the honestly the ai slop content is getting to be too much
We were talking before the show about how theo joe
Um, which it might have been a joke might not have been but theo joe posted on twitter about like bro. I'm done. It's like
Too much. I don't want to compete with like actual just junk
And I run into it on the platform
Decently often people with junk. I'd go on only fans
Yeah, I mean we should put our put our stuff up on the hook. Where's my ding Dan?
We got to bring that project back. We got to put our put our videos on the hub. Um, but uh
Yeah, it's there's so much of it. It's crazy. Um
I don't know Yeah, this is another tweet from theo joe. Uh, no, he just posted this in chat
I really think youtube is going to be overwhelmed with garbage slop within a few years to the point where it will no longer be usable
And this comes back to the conversation I have with youtube every time I can get in a room with them
And I may have an opportunity to chat with some execs in the near future here
And I'm going to bring it up again. It's like look you guys need to decide what you want to be
You can be tick tock. You can be
Facebook and instagram and just full of ai crap garbage short form
Hit move on to the next dopamine hit crap Or you can take a bit of a hit now
And in the long term keep your soul keep your identity be youtube
Because and I'll just I'm going to be really honest with them with the way things are trending right now
LTT in its current form may not be viable in the medium future
It just may no longer be viable
Um, like we upload relatively few shorts
But like I can tell I can tell in our analytics
What they're pushing and what they're not and youtube's response to this kind of thing is always well
You know, we're giving the audience what they want it's like
Yeah, kind of But also not
also You guys control how prominent the short shelf is you you you actually decide that
And yeah, people, you know click on it because
You know, you're you're the dealer and they want another hit But you can you can be part of
Breaking the cycle You can be part of of making youtube an app that I don't feel icky
About opening that I don't feel guilty about using you can feed me high quality content that makes me feel
Enriched after I'm done consuming it
Don't just like it's like be a good parent
Right, like obviously my kids would eat more if I gave them candy at every opportunity, right?
They'd eat so much I could have the kids that eat the most good for me
But what if there was a goal beyond that? What if I wanted them to be healthy?
What if I wanted them to reach adulthood and go thanks, dad
I didn't look at youtube fondly my vegetables. Yeah. Yeah, I didn't always love you because of that
Yeah, and sometimes sometimes I didn't do what you said and I went on tiktok and I ate candy
Um, but I understand why you were trying to feed me something different. Thank you, you know, maybe you could have that attitude
I'm starting to I'm starting to lose hope though
Um speaking of in crapification. Let's talk about high sense. Oh my god
Sammy just told me something I didn't know If you watch a lot of shorts on youtube the app defaults to a short when you open the app
That is unhinged
I didn't know that it kind of makes sense though I
Don't even have the app installed anymore
And see it shouldn't come to that dude It should not come to that but I got either of these things
I got so tired of shorts that I actually uninstalled the app and I watched youtube on my phone through a browser now
No, he says not even that if your last watched video is a short
It will just launch a short
Whoa
This is nuts. Yeah
Uh, okay. Well another in crapification news
Owners of high sense tv's in spain and britain have reported unskippable ads appearing
During basic functions like powering on their tv's
Switching inputs Navigating to the home screen or changing channels
Result reports of intrusive ads on high sense tv's have been growing since 2022 tom's hardware reports and have escalated
From small tile ads to unskippable videos
We've got links to some reddit posts showing incidents. Um, I won't be able to screen share luke. Do you want to fire one of those up?
So I was reading something else for a second. Which one is this? High sense tv's
Oh funny show us one of the examples. Yeah, uh, while you're finding it the ads began appearing after purchase on sets with high
Sense recently rebranded home os formerly vida an os that is licensed by other manufacturers
At least one of the complaints has been about a toshiba tv
Some users have reportedly contacted high sense directly and provided their tv's unique id to disable the ads
Spanish publication la razÃ³n I don't know how to Spanish accent
But anyway published a statement from high sense that denied wrongdoing
Asserting that an incident covered was a one-off test that did not
Affect the normal operation of the television or limit access to its main uses. This is translated by google translate
The question for me and Whenever a company uses this as an excuse is why are you testing that?
You know, yeah, it's like it's like do you think that
Do you think that that would I don't know i'm in i'm in korea So I got korea on the brain, but do you think that if the north koreans, you know
Did a nuclear test and everyone was like, yo, can you not?
That you know don't don't build a nuclear program and they're like, well, I was just testing it
You know, what what does that mean? Right, what does I was just testing it mean?
It means you're testing it like why
Why did you why did you need to test that?
Sorry, Luke. Do you want to show the thing now? I love this comment. Uh, kato s said, oh god
There's an emergency alert better turn on the news and then you just get an ad
Um, right like can we not please?
Would you want me to read sorry? I wanted to see one of the examples. Oh, yeah, I know I showed them all
Oh brilliant. Okay. Well, I missed them. Uh, yeah, I
II rftw and float playing chat says you spent dev time on it. Yes
Here here's my bug. I'll show it again. Here's my favorite one
So they're they're on their like homepage thing you can see them navigate down to
here just Wow
And that that is a whole ass ad whole ad
Whole ad rough Wild
Dude, okay investment disclosure framework. Hear me out framework tv
I'd be very interested actually. It just wasn't crap. I'd be super interested genuinely. Oh my goodness. Yeah
What about a tv? That you could upgrade you could upgrade the processor in for like your google tv or whatever it is
Or or it just had a little like nook that you could like put an apple tv in
And then you could just configure the firmware of the tv to just launch your apple tv every time you
You know what I mean? So black raven asks would it be a dumb tv or a smart tv?
I would see it as I would see it as both. Yeah, kernel critic says that's just a tv with a dongle
But but that's the thing is I wouldn't want to I personally like
Using whatever it's called. I forget they've rebranded it a couple times whether it's Android tv or google tv or whatever it is
I like google tv. It's pretty good. I like to use it
But over time you get heavier media files or you know, whatever
I might like to be able to upgrade the processor make it more responsive. Sometimes I like gaming on it
There's a fun game bomb squad. That's really fun with a big group
gaming on the tv Choice exactly ricky bobby choice. I want choice
And so if somebody wants a stupid one
Then yeah, have a stupid tv have a dumb tv and have it not do any of that stuff
But I also want to have the option to do that and if there was anyone that I would trust to do it
I think it'd be framework I think I I think I could trust them to not screw this up investment disclosure. Yeah, that'd be awesome
I'm I'm pitching it. I'm pitching it right now No guarantees that they'll do it, of course. They're gonna be more expensive. They don't work for me
Yep, and and they're uh, they're gonna be more expensive
Even if they do make one like people have to realize that this crap is why is part of the reason why tv's are so cheap now
because they're monetizing
You're you know, I'm getting a lot of packet loss. Sorry guys
Uh, I can maybe just do another topic while we wait for him. Let me see if there's something
I can talk about slay the spire. I can talk about that for as long as you want. We'll wait for Linus to catch up here
Um, uh, slay the spire to almost
Beat silk songs record, which I don't even think it was gonna get quite that high
But I'm very proud of them. Good job mega crit. I've played too much of your game
Uh, the sequel to mega crit's 2019 hit record. Well, just called slay the spire to be clear. Uh, hit
This one Hi, um hit
They apparently recorded nearly 575,000 concurrent players after its early access release last week
It's still in early access. I was you know, whatever Um, only about 12,000 players shy, which when you're at the scale of over half a million is not that much
Of the indie record set by hollow knight silk song back in september of
Last year really September. Yeah, it was that long ago. Yeah
Wow I mean, I was gonna say it was
It's not very long ago, but yes It's both. All right. Uh, the game already has more than 43,000 reviews on steam and is rated
Overwhelmingly positive Yes, let's go exciting. Uh, have I been playing? I have played I played mostly on the plane
To to and from florida, um, but I played a little bit since then too. It's a long flight
It's a long flight. So I got a lot in there. Um,
It's uh, it's good. I don't know if I
Did you achieve your goal luke? I did when it was with every
He's lagging to all heck, but he he asked did I I'm gonna I'm gonna take the self-bragg aliyup that he gave me
He asked, uh, did you achieve your goal of being at once at least on every single character before we got back?
Um, and I only played it on the plane and I tried not to be too antisocial and yes, I did like kind of
Dan I think saw me do it like kind of as we were landing almost. Yeah, I think I finished the last run
You were like, I did it. Yeah. I did it laptop close. All right. We're we're landing still having conversations the whole time
Yeah, um, it's uh
It's early access the original game went through a bunch of balancing over time
I think it definitely needs more balancing work. Um in oh right. I'm looking over here now
In in my opinion, it still needs more work, but the the bones feel really good in my opinion
Um, I don't actually care too much that there's like animations now and stuff
Um, it looks nice. It just doesn't really mean much to me. Um
But the the bones are really cool the new necromancer characters like one of my favorite ones
I'm not super happy about the current state of silent, which is generally my favorite character
So I'm hoping there's some rebalancing stuff that happens there
Um, but yeah, we'll see we'll have to see what they do over the course of the early access
And then what they do after the fact like slayers fire one if I remember correctly
I I think it was like released before defect even came into the game. I'm not I'm not sure when it was technically out
Um, and then watcher came after as well
Um, the difficulty floor is so much higher than sts one. That's interesting. It feels
Just actually easier to me um
But I've been I've been really interested in what the community thinks about the the difficulty of the game there
I have found that there are more
Like kind of just I run into a mechanic and I'm just like
Like the I think it's called the time eater and slayers fire one one of the act three bosses
It's just super annoying because if you played a lot of cards, then it just hard directly counters you
And almost all my favorite decks on almost every character was just play a crazy amount of cards
um So it's really annoying to run into time eater
And now I find that there's more like time eater style enemies where it's like ha ha
You decided to build your deck that way. I guess you have a bad time now and I don't love that so much
um Again the balance isn't so obscure as well. Yeah, um, all right. Sorry. Everyone calls it expedition 33 where it's like
Oh You are not built in this exact way. Therefore your your break damage
is Too low and you can beat this boss, but you will have to grind
It will take you forever Like there's an end boss called the queen
um And I haven't read a bunch of like other people's opinions on size bar two yet
But I read one thread because I was like to other people. I heard that one was super. Thanks for asking
I It's an old reference
I don't get it But uh, yeah, I was like, I wonder what other people think about this like horribly difficult boss
And I honestly thought all the other act three bosses were like so easy that they might as well been like elites or not even that hard
And then the queen is just like this horrifying mess of destroy my everything
And then I read online that everyone's like wow, that's the easiest one
Um And I don't know what's going on. So I might not have opinions that line up with other people
um, I also find that Or sorry
I also saw on that thread that apparently people were saying that the queen punishes hyper optimized decks
And if you just like grab cards for fun And your deck isn't like built around a certain system that you have an easier time with it
And I tend to try to make optimized decks
But then that's it runs into the same problem where it's like especially when you're running on really high difficulty
You're probably going to want optimized decks. So then you just have like a die roll that if your game has the queen is the end boss
You just lose Like I I don't like that. That's what I really really hated about. Um
Time eater, but anyways slayers bar really cool game
It's it's overwhelmingly positive even if I don't currently like it as much as slayers bar one
and I think they can uh, tune things up because they have in the past and
Mega crit is based and I even really liked their other random game
um mega crit Dancing game will I be able to find it this way dancing duelists this game? I believe is even free
Uh, it's on itch.io called dancing duelists
And this game is super fun. Yeah, you can just download the the zip for mac Linux or Windows right there
It's a game jam game. Yeah, it's a game jam game. It's super fun This was their first exploration into gadoe if I remember correctly
um And it's it's a fun little game
Uh, let me see if I can Shwoop
Game play Yeah, you pick your little dancer bro And then you have your different cards and then
The game kind of like semi auto plays But it's like
You build the deck and then it kind of does the things or whatever and blah blah blah blah for a game jam game
Holy crap. It was amazing. That's cool. It seems to be done the jump ship jam, which is over a month. So
Probably why it looks a little. Oh, yeah, it was like pretty polished and stuff month game jams intense. Yeah
Uh, but yeah, cool. It's nice by two sweet. I'm sure I will continue playing it for a long time
very nice
All right, why don't we jump into
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I'm so disappointed that you fixed your hair because the last one was supposed to be a hair zoom in
Oh, yeah Uh, yeah, I had this I had this situation before the show where this was doing a weird thing
And I decided to fix it. I also one quick last thing quick
I swear about slay this fire. Uh, is the very first event I did on my very first run
Uh, I I got an it was an option. I could do something who knows never choose that choice
Or I could get an egg and spoiler alert. Don't listen to this part plug your ears
If you care about spoilers for slay this fire, which I don't think anyone does
I'm plugging ears, but I have headphones in what am I going to do line is yeah line is doesn't care
Um, but I was I hatched the egg and this was first event first run
I'm just putting it out there. Just saying no, maybe I don't want to know. I don't want to know
You literally get a little bird bro I'm not going to worry about it. You get a little bird bro and he fights with you all the way up the spire
The second that happened. I was like, I can't lose. I can't lose when I have bird friend. That's impossible. That can't happen
I just thought it was amazing that my first run. I got bird immediately. Um
All right Let's jump into
Sony appears to be experimenting with dynamic ab pricing on the playstation store
PlayStation store price trackers at ps prices.com had been following dynamic ab pricing experiments since late last year
Where sony has shown users varying discounts of up to 27.8 percent
The experiment has lasted over four months and included over 190 games in over 70 regions including the us
affected titles have included Developers like sony 2k games focus entertainment deep silver Bethesda rockstar and
Ubisoft our discussion question here is our deep discounts coming to consoles and what I don't think that's
the more important discussion question is
Dynamic pricing. Can we not infect absolutely everything with this? Can we just have the price be the price?
Like yeah, I don't think this is deep discounts coming to consoles. I think this is
Uh trying to Extract as much possible dollars from each possible person you can
By like tracking what things they might like and might not like and making sure that there is optimal amounts of discounts
Applied to each individual person so that you can extract as many dollars as possible at any given time
um This is super bad. This is just a bad mro mutt says
I was about to say dynamic pricing on a digital store is pure evil
But if it's just discounts i'm not as upset, but that's the thing everything is dynamic discounts are just dynamic pricing
yuck
Yeah You could kind of consider that everything is a million dollars with a certain amount of discount applied to it
Like it's the the original sounds like best buy doesn't matter
Oh my god Have you seen some of the uh, some of the stuff people are sharing about best buys compare at feature?
We already talked about it a couple weeks ago. I think it was so we don't have to go through the whole thing
But people are posting some unhinged
Comparisons like I think there was someone bought open box uh air pods or something like that and the compare at was to brand new air pods
It's like, okay. Yeah, sure That's that's how that works. I think that's what I saw 350 dollars of savings
gross cool, um
In other news that's gross meta has acquired
Molt book the social media platform for ai agents bringing the company's founders
Matt schlickst and ben par into meta's ai research division
Um schlickst says he built molt book without writing a single line of code relying instead on his personal ai assistant claud clauderberg
Financial terms of the deal were not disclosed
Our discussion question is Does whatever research benefit we might gain from ai agents sending each other pictures of their lunches
outweigh the cost and natural resources Thank you, jordan for asking such a leading question with such an obvious answer
In other fun ai news amazon's ai coding tools linked to outages as internal documents reveal push for senior sign-off on generated ai code
After a six hour amazon.com outage and multiple aws incidents internal documents seen by the financial times show amazon
uh, senior vice president dave treadwell calling out a
trend of incidents tied to gen ai assisted changes with a high blast radius
And pushing for senior engineer sign-off on ai assisted code changes
amazon disputes the framing saying only one incident was ai related
None involved ai written code and the sign-off requirement isn't being formally mandated
The last part Okay, uh the aws incidents that's not the win you think it is
Yeah, the aws incidents included a 13 hour outage caused by amazon's own
Kiro ai coding tool deleting and recreating an entire
Environment which amazon attributed to user error rather than ai itself everything can be
And in a lot of ways fair enough, but that's why you need the sign-off thing, right
Uh discussion question amazon's own internal memo blamed ai tools
But the company's pr team is saying it's the opposite. Who do you believe uh the internal memo internal memo for sure
100 of the time to be clear internal memos can be bs
Yeah, but when i'm comparing it to a pr statement, it's going to be the internal memo
100 of the time. Yeah, it's not corporate popular right now to be like no no no the
The ai tools are bad for sure. Don't use ours. They have problems. That's not it's not going to go well right now
Ah Silicon valley like the tv show was just so far ahead like
It feels like uh It feels like it feels so
Accurate that it's it's almost creepy at this point
Yeah, um Yeah
I don't know how to deal with it like it's it's it's gone full circle
from like So Outlander or so true to life that it's funny to so true to life that it's not funny anymore. Yeah
Wet melan says I work at a silicon valley company. I still haven't seen it lol
I should really get around to that you really Really should if you've ever been anywhere near a startup or a big tech company. It is
So funny like I don't understand how it's that
Just how it captures the real experience and yet manages to
Be funny And not just depressing. It's it's so good
Inside out dude. I actually have only I've not seen the entire run I think I've only seen the first three seasons. I like bought them on blu-ray
I binge the first season with austin evans randomly enough
Really? Yeah, it was great. Nice. I'm hanging out. Um
Um Nintendo is suing the u.s. Government over tariffs
Uh, nintendo is seeking a full refund with interest of tariffs that paid under the IEPA
Order signed by president trump After the supreme court struck these orders or sorry multiple orders struck these orders down in february
Over a thousand companies including cosco and fedex have filed similar suits with a judge already ruling that they are in fact
Entitled to refunds nintendo's lawsuit has since been automatically paused pending the outcome of a
broader supreme court case covering all similar claims
um Trump has since announced plans to reimpose tariffs through section 122 of the trade act of 1974
Which is a more legally constrained method and has two dozen states
Over two dozen states already suing over that move as well. Here's the thing that i'm
going to just Come out and say i'm finding a little bit confusing about all of this
I have
Paid through companies that i am either sole owner or or partner owner
A lot of money in tariffs for products that we have imported or exported into the united states
um There is a part of me that would obviously love to have that money back
I i'm pretty sure it's like over a million dollars like a lot of money
We sell we sell a lot of goods on lttstore.com. It's a good store with great products people love them and uh businesses has been
Okay, um, you know, there's a lot of headwinds right now every every all hands you hear taren use the word headwinds
But but overall, you know, we've been we've we've diversified the team has uh worked hard. We're we're doing stuff
You know, we're we're getting it done And so with that volume of business, there's been a lot of money that has gone towards tariffs
I'd love to have it back But here's the thing
I believe Not I believe it's it's just I believe it is a fact there. I'll say this that tariffs are in fact a consumer tax
so Why would I get the refund?
So here's what i'm kind of trying to understand
And I know that for someone like nintendo or cosco, right?
They have made the argument Especially cosco. I don't actually know that nintendo is making this argument, but I know that cosco made the argument
That they held their pricing steady
right In or and they absorbed the tariffs because they believed that they would be able to sue
For the tariff money back and that would make them whole eventually. I mean, you know minus interest obviously an opportunity cost and whatever else, right?
um But in the current climate
Where will we find the nuance To differentiate between a company like cosco who claims right and I would tend to believe cosco
They've operated with pretty strong integrity over the years who claims that they
ate the cost Compared to other companies who passed the cost along to consumers
And then we'll basically be taking back free money
How do we differentiate that how do you prove that?
I have no idea. I think that's part of their argument actually is they they haven't started this stuff
And if I remember correctly the nintendo suit is already paused and I think the big part of that reason is because they're saying it's just too
Complicated, so we're gonna have to see where that goes I also think like
I think as far as my understanding goes we tried to keep prices down for
Americans so that would partially include us so maybe there needs to be just a refund in both directions
ours was complicated Some products some things
And I'm sure that almost everyone is probably kind of like us. Yeah
Because it was so volatile and at times there was a tariff one day and then there was like, oh forget it the next day and
And it was just it was chaos There were times when we just ate it
there were other times where we went to our suppliers and
We worked with them to to to manage margins
Across the board. So they would take a small hit We would take a small hit and we'd make a small adjustment to pricing
So everybody's taking a small hit the consumer us and our manufacturers
Then there were the times when we just we had to we just had to increase pricing
So we've done all of them So what's the right thing to do? There's also uh, I don't want to say this name, but someone in full playing chat said
Yeah, so what about companies that raised global pricing to subsidize Americans?
Which did also happen. That's tough. You can't really solve that. Where's the refund for european xbox buyers? Yeah
It's not happening So basically this is the this is the dumbest possible outcome
because The u.s taxpayer gets nothing for all of it
The u.s government gets nothing for all of it. It's like the least surprising because they don't get any of the money
just funnel more money the rich
And are we really just going to give a refund to the corporations who
You know what? From my point of view we're we're dramatically
Inconvenienced by this whole thing and it did affect our it did affect our revenue and it did affect our profit
It wasn't just inconvenience. This was a serious problem
With the money that was charged and also the haphazard way that the whole thing was implemented and messaged
It it burned
Countless cycles and a ton of money for us
Like the whole thing just is looking even
Dumber and like an even stupider more useless
Crap outcome than I even could have predicted and I was
Pretty opposed to the whole thing in the first place for fairly obvious reasons
just wild So dumb did you hear about?
a government Affiliated official that's been running around
selling Are basically buying companies tariff
Uh refunds for like pennies on the dollar. Yeah
Yeah, corruption in plain sight boys. It's been it's been
I think he's a dude in like the financial part of the government as well
Like I think he might have uh some amount of influence over if this is even happening
um Is it say so wait say the name again
I was it's got bessen. Yeah, I thought it was him. Um
I can't remember Lottnick. No, Lottnick. There we go. Isn't he still in finance stuff? Anyways
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, you know, so the whole thing is commerce
So like the a person doing finance stuff
Who like is going to have a lot of influence. I just
Anyways, let's go man. Let's get through this. We got a couple more to go. I need to get into after dark here
This is getting brutal Um
BYD reveals charging network in world's longest range EV
Chinese automaker BYD has reportedly been testing a
1500 kilowatt hour flash charging network in shenzhen that is capable of adding
249 miles of EV range in five
minutes That means this network is more than three times faster than the ultra rapid chargers that currently exist in north america and europe
The test hub uses liquid cooled charging guns, which just sounds awesome
That allow users to roll up plug in and handle payment on either the infotainment or an Android app
The pricing at the demo site was about 18 cents per kilowatt hour making a charging session about 15 bucks
Meanwhile in america cyber trucks currently handle the highest charging speeds with peaks at around 500 kilowatt hours
So a third if the claim is real
BYD's luxury brand denza also teased their new z 9 gts uv with 644 miles of range
A 64 improvement from the current z 9 gt models
391 mile range, which is priced at around 50,000
usd It is worth noting that the chinese
range estimates are are not as
As difficult as the epa
us ones, so there's a bit of translation that'll have to go on there, but that is still
Freaking wild. That's an enormous range for for an SUV. It's not a big suv. I don't think
Trying to see like how what would this do it looks more model y or model x?
It actually looks amazing. This is the z 9. I decided I'll just look it up. But like that
$50,000 car dude like
I'm so stoked on being able to get BYD soon, dude. Yeah, they're gonna disappear. They're gonna sell out instantaneously
There's I think it's 50,000 cars that they're in total allowed to bring in. They're just all gonna disappear
Looks like that inside 952 brake horsepower
952 Looks like that inside looks like this outside and it's 50k. You think those aren't gonna instantly disappear in canada?
People are gonna buy those immediately 950 is that a joke? Linus, how much how much do you Porsche got?
Ah I can see the video. I can see the video now. Nothing has that much. I can see the video now. I bought a new car
Linus Sebastian 400
The the 2023 I can't remember if I have a 2022 or 2023, but they should be the same power
The 2023 Taycan turbo s 750 to 616 horsepower
Which increases with launch control to 750
So this suv would have substantially more horsepower than my stupid
Taycan Ridiculous, I really like absolutely ridiculous on their dash. I really like kind of how they laid this out
I know I know there's like other EVs with this to be very very clear. It looks like they have dual
um Wireless charging pads for phones. I think passenger and driver
And then I like that just in front of the wheel is actually quite simple
Um, there are there are lots of other EVs that do that as well
But sometimes they get a little bit too busy right in front of the wheel and I don't like that
Keep the infotainment in the middle
Damn
Uh youtube is expanding their AI deep fake detection to include politicians government officials and journalists
That's it. That's all that I really have to say about that. They say they'll still protect parody and satire
Um that involves these public figures, but yeah, this is this is a good thing
And they should they should do deep fake detection more and just generally AI detection more and not less
Also after complaints google will make it easier to disable generative AI search in photos including a toggle for fast classic search
Nice Nice now what I want to know is where's my good
fast non AI gmail search Dude, I had a wild interaction with gmail search the other day
Where I looked for a keyword that I knew for sure was in something recent
And it wouldn't bring it up It only brought up like one page of results even though there should have been like hundreds of emails with this common word
And I actually had to use for the first time the gemini
Gmail search in order to find it and it found it immediately
But I was just so annoyed with that workflow
Just just find the word if the email contains the word bring up the email
How complicated is this google was good at this 10 years ago? Why do they suck at it now?
All right, I don't exactly shop for cars too often
But this is cool, man. Is that seriously 50 grand cool configurator. You can like click around and stuff happens
It won't be here. That's like converted Uh, so there'll still be like extra transportation costs and they'll have to cover their just their operational costs of running in the country
So I would suspect it'll be closer to like 75 or 80
Yeah, but not like 150 which is kind of what I would expect for a car that looks like that
It has those specifications Yeah, buddy
What if I click space? What does that do? Oh, wow
Scenarios
None of the domestics have like Yeah, this is weird
Did you can see the shocks? I'm sure there's like other again
I don't exactly buy for new shop for new cars ever, but
Um That's a cool. That's a cool little thing. They can you can look
Yeah Just no touch can't wait to buy one on craigslist in 25 years from now. Yeah, it's gonna be sick
Dude, they have a freaking like what bra?
Again 50 grand like I the big ones compete with maybach and they're like
100 grand Can't screw this
Deville a audio system. So they even ponied up for bougie co branding for their audio
And still managed to make it this cheap Digital that's wild. Are those legal in canada. I don't think so digital side mirrors. Yeah. Yeah, they might not be
I don't think so. I don't think they're either The cooler is sweet. You don't have cold water be done. I know
Anyways, uh enough drooling over that car. Um, what do we got next?
There's something I think are we done after the topics I think it's after dark. Let's go
After dark Okay, I've got a few
Checkout messages for you here
first up first You really need tall sizes for the gray RGB shirts
Um second lld. What are your favorite guilty pleasure serving Dan?
I like that That was really good
Second up lld. What are your favorite guilty pleasure treats and candies?
This guy was actually first is the first merge message we received so
Double first. Oh man. I've got I've got lots of guilty pleasure treats and candies
I I have a wicked sweet tooth. I remember this one time
Do you know those uh those like sour strips that are rainbow colored that you could get in like a bulk pack at cosco?
Yeah, you know the ones i'm talking about I once ate an entire cosco bulk pack of those in a weekend
eating at my desk Yeah
We're talking like an actual brick of sugar
Holy crap Damn
That's wild Yeah, I I I got it. I've got a sweet tooth
It takes it takes a lot of discipline for me to eat as little sweets as I do these days as I'm getting older
I can't I can't do that anymore. My metabolism used to be like
hyper Now I just I just can't um
But like oh man. I love me a perfectly toasted marshmallow like
Oh love that um
Spicy ramen noodles. That's my like late at night. Oh, yeah
Oh, just like uh Uh, uh, I'll make let I have eaten in one sitting continuously as many as three packs
Plus eggs just like nom nom nom nom nom nom nom nom nom after midnight
um I whoa, this is a bad one. I once ate, you know the dumpsters like
Kind of like crappy white bread cinnamon raisin bread
I once ate in one sitting in the middle of the night when I was like craving a midnight snack an entire loaf of it
Piece by piece. Okay. Okay. I've got a butter. I've got one of those
Entire loaf of butter. Damn. Okay. All right. Every slice. You might still have me then
Uh, my like diet when I used to work at the bread factory. So this would have been
Not way too long before I met you to be honest. Um, yeah
Was I would bring a can of stag chili to work
um, and a bowl, but I wouldn't bring any utensils and uh, you know, statue limitations
Whatever it's probably fine. Uh, they had this policy where like if there was a bag of ruined bread, you could just have it
So a single bag of bread would just fly out of the facility for some reason and it'd be outside on the ground
And that's ruined. So then I would eat stag chili with an entire loaf of bread
And that would be my lunch like every time Um, so I would buy stag with like when my parents would go to Costco
We'd get just tons of Costco stag chili packs. So they're super cheap
And then the bread was free and that was my meal that was like I was effectively like one meal a day
fasting Because I would eat a whole loaf of bread and a can of stag
Just be like, yeah
So I lived off that for like a while in terms of guilty pleasures, these are rare, but
a uh, a long term LTT staple community person mape got me onto these but they're licorice from new zealand called rj's
Um, and you can find them in stores every once in a while. Um, I know like
Way back when we worked out of the langley house
That there was like a grocery store that was near the corner store that was down the street
I don't know the name of the grocery store, but that grocery store had it. Um
Oh, what nesters Was it nesters?
Oh, wait. Oh, I don't remember what grocery store that was. Yeah, I know I've been there
I went there a few it was more expensive than the save on the save on was just down the hill
So like I didn't go there that often but there's a couple times
Um, I have so many more
I mean, yeah another one that I I really like but I think this might be controversial actually is hawkins
um Hawkins I've never tried that Hawkins
cheezies I got a rifle here
I must have spelled it wrong. Yeah Hawkins cheezies
It's canadian brand Canadian made thing. Oh, yeah, okay
Something that I really like is that the ingredients is like pretty chill
Um, yeah, okay. Not about to say they're good for you. Not about to say they're low calorie
I don't think they're necessarily either of those but the ingredients list is like relatively short and I can tell what's happening, which is
neat But yeah, they're canadian
Brand was Hawkins Yeah, well cheesy. Yeah cheezies with a zed and they're like they're normally the the crunchier
Kind of like smaller ones. They're not the like big poofy ones. Not the poofs. Yeah, I don't like the poofs
I like Hawkins That's another one. It's like it's pretty rare, but
When they're around they're neat my My probably biggest guilty pleasure though has got to be breakfast cereal and I'm talking like like the sugar bombs
Chocolate frosted sugar bombs type like nest quick
Uh, honey nut checks. Oh gosh, cinnamon toast crunch. I would
Something I'm I think I'm fairly lucky for is I liked those when I was a kid
But now I I genuinely just prefer like muesli
Like actually just really like it Especially you cut up some banana in it too like
Um One of my worst ones I I didn't do it once this winter. I made it all the way through the winter without doing this
But I uh, I will make a cup of hot chocolate
And then I'll put probably about this much whipped cream on the top of it
And then I'll get a spoon and I'll Dip it into the hot chocolate and they eat the whipped cream off the top and then I'll hit it again with whipped cream
All the way down the cup I love whipped cream
I think it's funny because you you usually eat like quite clean and then
When when when you dive off the head you just go really hard
Dude 100%
100% and like for me as long as I can as long as I can pass a pinch test
like I'll eat like the dirtiest stuff
like oh dude But it's for me. It's all about the it's all about the pinch test
But when I don't pass the pinch test, then I'm extremely disciplined
Hey DLL love all your videos. I'm interested in a framework 12, but I was seriously turned off by the price of RAM
Do you guys think that the framework 12 is in trouble unless the price of RAM falls?
I think everything's in trouble unless the price of RAM falls that's been a
a major point of discussion in the tech space for the last
Three to five months. It's it's a it's a major problem. Um
Yeah, yeah, I think they're in trouble if the price of RAM doesn't fall I
I hope it's kind of seems like there's
Signs of cracking in the ai bubble right now. It hasn't you know entered freefall or anything like that
But isn't oracle stock like way down right now
Uh, I think everything stock is way down right now
Yeah, oracle stock is is definitely down
um, yeah, and I think like because of ai over over
But ai pressure, uh, that's a big part of the reason that oracles coming down so down three percent today
Maybe it's coming. Maybe it's coming. Well, I'm not gonna hold my breath today
They're down like two and a half three percent five days. They're up two and a half three percent one month. They're down
Three ish percent six months. They're down forty eight point six percent
so Yeah, if you look at the six month trend things are not looking good. They're up five percent from last year
Yep Nice nothing matters. Yeah, so so following the ai bubble and then maybe we're maybe we're on the way down
Hopefully that'd be awesome. I saw a new animal used to describe the stock market
Apparently we're in a kangaroo market Boing so forget about bears and bulls. It's just
Up and down. There's the ones that punch you in the face. Yeah, that still seems right. Yep. Absolutely tracks. Yeah
What's up boys? Luke, how's your fitness journey going would like to know if you tweaked your diet at all lately looking good my boy
Uh, the last comment's a little surprising. It's not going well. I basically for
Well, it's all relative Luke. I mean compared to where you started. I think you're still looking pretty good
Yeah, that's probably I can see where they're coming from. Yeah, I think you see every little imperfection
But yeah, I'm very frustrated right now basically so okay
So I was traveling a bunch and was kind of out of the gym because I was still
Working out when I could like I got a workout in in hong kong
Uh, like I was I was trying to make things happen I was keeping it going and then I came back and I had this crazy reno that
Lasted for like over six months So I was inconsistent about my workouts
Then a crazy reno that went on for a long time where I couldn't really use my kitchen
So I had like non-prepared meals and no gym time
for over six months
Um And that really what are we hearing right now?
Is that Yvonne's back in the room? Oh, okay. Um, I thought that was local. Sorry. No, you're good. I thought that was local. Um,
Yep So I I lost a lot of traction there and the big problem that I'm having realistically right now
Is that old injuries that I had like
Had under control they weren't dealt with they weren't fixed, but I had them under control are
now again Again, not in a state that I would consider under control. Um, so like I I
Have to go up a certain amount of quite a few stairs to take the stairs in my building
And I try to take the stairs exclusively every time
Um, and every once in a while that'll kind of throw my knee out a little bit
And it's just like damn man, like I think a week or two ago
I literally went up one flight of stairs and my knee was like nope
And it's just like oh like this this was something that I had completely solved
Like not that long ago and then just through I and I had talked about this on WAN Show
I had talked about this with lots of people where I was like no I just have to do this forever and I didn't really think like I knew I was doing stuff
You know, I'd work around the house. I was traveling whatever like I I didn't it wasn't like laziness that was keeping me out of the gym
But I didn't go to the gym for a while and my diet went crap
And that combination I think just brought everything kind of back So I have to go through this like repetitive phase again, which I've been working on I do these like
Like I don't know what you want to call them these like really weird lunges where you get your knee way over your toe
Um, and and dude, there's there's a youtuber guy knees over toes guy. I've been following some of his stuff
That's how I uh, originally fixed my knees was following some of his stuff
My shoulder. I don't have anything Particular it's just these things that I call side poles. I don't know what they're actually called and hanging
I do both of those and those help but like my hangs have gotten a lot worse because I wasn't doing them
And and yeah backwards running like there's lots of different things that I do
But they're just in a terrible state right now. So I can't like
It's just very frustrating and I would way rather I know there's like the whole you can't work out a you can't work off a bad diet
Yeah, but you can really support a much worse diet by doing a lot of activity
Um, and I would way rather it's not even necessarily that I want to eat junk all the time. I just hate eating very little
Um, I hate that scenario. I'd rather just be active and then eat like a pretty decent amount
Um Rotator cuff exercises. Yeah, so my my things are both of my knees, but mostly my right knee, but it's both
Um, my right shoulder cuff and my lower back on the right hand side
I got speared there and hockey when I was younger. Um, the back is kind of the least problematic one
But when it's a problem, um out
It's like when it when it kind of flares up. I'll be done for like a month. Um, but it's it's it's very
frustrating I I knew When I was going to go back into the gym my lifts were going to be way lower and that was going to be annoying
I didn't expect The like actually you can't go you have to go for walks all the time for a while and do these lunch things and do
This like really boring stuff that has no like measurable improvement. I like number go up
I don't like oh, maybe I feel better today. I can't really tell that's not very fun
and it's difficult to be motivating but I just have to do it because I have to get back on track
So I'm planning about this if I remember correctly. It's like three more weeks
I'm gonna try to go into the gym
And try some stuff and I'll start with pretty low weights and be pretty chill
And just try to see how things feel and I'll probably only do like
I don't know once or twice a week at the beginning and just try to kind of ease back into it
But I gotta be careful because I'm dealing with some
Yeah I have very particular things that I do
Um, that's fine. We're not necessarily going to be doing the same stuff
I'm just saying if you want if you want buddies me and jay kwan are there on mondays. Yeah, that's not a bad idea
Usually I do
At the end there I was on a weird way to say you're too cool for us No, monday is usually a day that I do monday's usually likes for me
I like starting the week off with legs because legs takes the most energy
And it is generally like the least like men don't tend to like doing legs as much
So I just start with that one Uh, and then yeah, so I used to do
monday tuesday thursday and then I was shifted to I think it was like monday thursday saturday for a bit there
But I'll move probably a lot of granularity in the detail here. Yeah, we're we're losing it. But anyways
It's a little off track, but I'm trying to get back on the tracks and I'm
Like actually peak frustrated right now, but we'll we'll figure it out
Now fanboy and z says have you considered glp one, but I think I can probably answer this for you
Luke's goal is not to Have side effects and take a drug and do it the easy way
His goal is to be physically fit
Of which does not necessarily mean the shape
It means like he wants his strength back. Yeah, I don't actually care that much
One is a path to that. I don't actually care that much about the the shape
Obviously, I do a little bit, but like the the goal is that I want to feel capable
Um, I want to be able to run. I want to be able to jump. I want to be able to sprint
I want to be able to lift I want to feel capable and feel healthy. That's my by far primary goal
Ribbit says glp one is not the easy way. So what would be the easy way for weight loss then?
like are you I'm I'm having a hard time understanding what you think that's the first time I've ever heard that
It's a head start right which is
Well, yeah, ribbit says I've been on it for nearly two years and been working my butt off combined with it
Well, right, but yeah, I mean, that's the exact same relative
That's the exact same and actually accurate as far as my understanding goes argument of steroids
Like you don't just become mystery olympia by just taking steroids
a lot of They will make you they will give you muscle mass just kind of automatically
But also a big part of is it reduces your recovery time so you can work out more you have to you have to try harder
It unlocks trying harder um
yeah Yeah, uh, sorry man. You're over 30. That feels good thing has sailed. No. I actually completely disagreed there. There was like, uh
Before this happened before the house right now. I was mostly feeling pretty good. I felt strong. Yeah
Things were doing okay. Obviously, there's gonna be lows, but like there's relative
I'm speaking relatively and relatively right now. It feels terrible
Uh, but it also feels a little bit better than it did last week. So like
Okay, we'll keep going All right, Dan hit me. Hello mental gen the Linux challenges are always interesting to me
I've been using a fairphone 6 with eos and loving it
When is the eos or lineage os challenge? Also happy day before pi day
I would actually love to look at lineage os again
I'm gonna i'm gonna put it on the list. It's been on the list for a long time, but i'm gonna i'm gonna surface that in my inbox
lineage os is um Is
Is such a cool idea to me In theory as a way to
Squeeze way more life out of older Android devices and i'd love to see
Now that we have five-year-old phones that are totally still good enough hardware wise to daily
Uh, but maybe aren't getting software support anymore. I'd I'd love to take a crack at it again
Yeah, I used to run it. It's awesome Um, last one I got for you here. Hey one pointed question. Uh, oh you said it's awesome and used to
Why do you stop it wasn't available on my more recent phones?
Got it. It's only available on some very specific models
Seems like a fair enough answer. I'm so sorry. It's not a nice place. Yeah, uh, a lot of these are
Specific phones and I don't generally go for the generics
but I do always try and buy the ones that have unlocked bootloaders for the future
In case someone makes one in 10 years so that they can keep working
Last one. Hey DLL just hit my 30s careers peaking and my gf and I keep getting the
When's the wedding questions any advice for this stage of life anything you wish you knew in your early 30s
sleep I've wrecked my I've wrecked myself honestly. Apparently you're supposed to work out with steroids. I'm just hearing this now
I gotta I gotta talk to my dealer. Don't work out with steroids. Just come work out. Um
Sleep
I think that's the main piece of advice that I needed and I still need I still need that advice
I'm not doing very good at this. Yeah, I got nothing for you
I don't know if any of my advice is going to be that applicable. I did my I did my early 30s in my early to mid 20s
just like Went from well, I'm in high school now. I'm supposed to go to university. Well, I'm in university now
I'm supposed to get a career while I'm in a career now. I'm supposed to get married while I'm married now
I'm supposed to have a kid Now I have a kid. Uh, okay. Let's let's complete the set. Let's get the family going. Oh, I'm gonna start a business
I was just like go go go go go go go go and uh, there's a lot of arguments to be made that that is not
The right for every right choice for everyone. So
Yeah You know, definitely, you know for me partnering up was critical to my success
um But you know, I fully recognize that you know, if if if the wedding is not, you know,
Right or the timing is not right for you. Then that's you know, that's your choice. You got to be
You got to do things on your own terms, but also If your plan is to get married and have kids. You also got to understand that time is not infinite
Um, I remember uh for our second kid. I've told this story before but Yvonne was what were you vonne 26?
When when you talk to dr. Tam about uh, our middle child. Yeah, and uh, she goes man, it's just
My sciatica pain is worse and my fatigue is worse and like my sleep is worse and everything is everything is harder this time
And he just kind of has his clipboard out and he wasn't even looking at her didn't even bother to turn around
He goes well, you know spring chicken It's like bro, like what are you talking about?
We have this perception today that like you just like have kids in your late 30s
Or maybe even like in your 40s and that's like totally fine, but from like a biological standpoint. That's not
How our bodies work?
Peak peak childbearing years are way
Before that so if your plan is to do that then the people who are asking hey like are you getting on with it may just have your
You know your health and your best interest in mind but I will say that
Having kids young there were a lot of things that we really didn't feel
ready for Um ace of toons says my mom had me at 32 and the last was at 36. She was fine and that's nice
But that doesn't change anything that I said so
cool Sick next one. Yep. I don't have any more. Oh, that's it
That's it. That's all So we'll see you again next week same bad time same bad channel. Bye
provisor Such a good name
You
Linus's laptop is just ripping
I'm not it's what