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What's up, y'all?

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Happy Friday. I hope you had a wonderful week.

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No, I take that back.

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I hope you had a spectacular full week.

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Spectacular and wonderful. Yeah. Wonderful.

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I hope you had a wonderful week. Thunderful.

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Thunderful. Yeah. Are you saying wonderful or thunderful?

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I don't know. Well, a little bit of both. You bring the thunder to the fun.

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Bring the thunder.

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I'd love to resurrect, what's it called, kick sharded or kick farted?

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Kick farted.

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The brilliant Labs frame glasses that I checked out on ShortCircuit this week had a kick farted

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vibe. I was going to say, you don't even need Kickstarter anymore, you just make AI products.

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Yeah, I guess that's true. Because a lot of this stuff isn't Kickstarter.

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I feel like it would get kind of redundant though because they're all just going to be

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bad in kind of the same ways. You can only review so many things that say they do a bunch of stuff and don't actually

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do any of it before it's just like. It's boring.

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Yeah. It was fun when Kickstarter was new.

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Oh, shoot.

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I'm not logged in. I knew there was something I wasn't logged into. I'm not logged into Flowplain.

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There's the world's first wallet with built-in Find My, Apple Find My.

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That's kind of useful, actually.

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Sort of neat. If they ever actually make it.

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Big question mark. That's the thing, right?

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I love this picture of Andrew on the Flowplain site. I don't know why it's here and I don't know why I love it so much, but it's amazing.

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Here's another question for you. He just looks so cool. Why isn't it here?

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Why isn't it here? Why would it not be there? What are you even talking about?

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What else would you put there? Well, I don't know.

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Exactly. It's not my problem. Yeah.

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Look, I said I like it. Calm down. What is your biggest problem with it?

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What's your problem? What? Why are you so aggressive?

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What's your biggest problem with it?

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My biggest problem? It's such a huge issue. My biggest problem right now is your attitude.

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Yeah, see, Chris Uthi, Luke is agitated.

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Yeah. He needs to take his calm down celery sticks.

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Yeah. Mel, Bill, did your battle, sorry, Mel, Bill, did your dad ever get his present from Kickstarter?

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No. Fox in the Box, he doesn't even want to play Super Chex because he's too bad at it.

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What just happened? Are we good?

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Oh. Dan? Did we die?

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That was exciting.

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Yeah, it's back now, so that's cool.

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I'll just pop my live chat back out.

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Okay. Not a good sign.

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Only Luke was better at building a live streaming platform than playing Super Chex.

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Sheesh. That one's rough, actually.

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Damn, he's really bad at Super Chex, then, I guess.

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Wow, Dan. Wow. Luke's had a hard week, so we're...

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Yeah, how's the business side of footballing going? So we're making it harder.

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How's the business side of footballing going? Business side's going great.

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We actually gained a ton of subscribers in the last couple of months. Yeah, who did that?

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I think it was Sammy.

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Same Sammy's, actually, both of the Sammy's. We had Sammy one working on all the exclusives, and then we had Sammy Alpha working on all

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of the being in Scrapyard Wars. Sammy Alpha?

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Well, yeah. I mean, look, I can't come out here and be like, oh, yeah, one and two, like you have

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tears. What do you do with your third? If I put Sammy's in tears, I'm going to be dealing with Sammy tears.

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Oh, man.

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Yeah, what do you do with more, though? What if you have like four Sammy's?

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Four Sammy's. It'll be a problem. It'll be a problem.

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We'll just start adding Alpha one, one, and...

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Well, we could... There's lots of alphabets.

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You just need to...

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Oh, man.

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Sammy Prime. Yeah.

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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

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So that's three of them. Gamma and Omega and stuff, you still can't do that.

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Yeah, no, you can't do that. You can't do that. No.

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Because Omega would be above the other ones. So we've got one A and Prime.

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But then you've got one A and Prime in other languages. One of them we could just call.

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You could scale it. Yeah, Sammy. Oh.

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Sammy, Ein. Ein's not too bad. What's wrong with Ang?

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It's French. Have some culture, you swine.

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That's the language of your people. Mr. LaFrenier.

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I don't know any other ones other than Un and Ein.

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What's like Spanish one? Just like Sammy.

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What's the sign language for S?

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Really? Yeah. Okay.

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Sammy. Yeah, I mean, usually name signs are not just like the first letter of someone's name

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and then a number. Do you have to individually spell the whole thing out?

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No. What they generally are is they're like some combination of the letter that their name

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starts with and some like action.

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Okay. So my sister was given her name sign when she was like a very happy little kid.

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This is my younger sister. And so this is the sign for happy.

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And her name is Bella. So you make a B.

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You're like that. So that's her name sign. So it's not going to be exactly the same.

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But it's a repeatable...

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When I was given mine, I was really into hockey.

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And this is the sign for hockey. So you're L-hockey?

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So I'm like that. Yeah. Exactly.

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L-hockey. Yeah, thanks. It's a good name.

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My mom loved me a lot.

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I could tell, by the way, as I went to go take a drink there, he was going for me.

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He was trying to cook something up, so I took a really little one so I could get out quickly.

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There's tactics to this.

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All right. What are we doing today?

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Right. I was going to sign into a thing. Oh yeah, yeah.

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I'm signing into the thing. Okay, cool. So that's muted.

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So that's good. Everything seems good. Oh, I guess...

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Do I even need to sign into Twitch? Am I just over Twitch at this point?

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Maybe I'm just over Twitch. Does Twitch matter?

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No. Got him.

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Maybe I should sign into kick. No.

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Okay, tell me this. Should we stream to kick?

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Sure, why not? All right. We can stream to as many sources as we want.

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I really thought that was going to be a longer conversation than that.

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I mean, we streamed to Twitter, so like, whatever.

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That's fair. Oh, we're not.

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Oh, why? Oh, how come? I don't think I can get into the account.

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Oh. But I can go to Twitter if you want.

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I just don't care. I mean, we got 40,000 viewers currently per video.

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The views are such lies anyway. And two comments.

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It's just complete nonsense.

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Stream to MySpace, is that possible? Are they doing these days?

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I'd be down. It's like a music social media platform, right?

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Really? I think so.

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I keep reading about like a new, like, it's like MySpace, but like for Zoomers and like,

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I haven't seen any actual momentum on any of them.

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Is that a thing? MySpace isn't loading very well.

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But yeah, I think it's a music social media thing.

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I'm going to log in.

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Date, network and connect with people. So it's a music social media dating platform.

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No way. No way. For like people that still know what MySpace is, I'm assuming.

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Hear me out. Habbo Hotel.

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Yeah, dawg. Let's stream on Habbo Hotel.

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Sick.

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Like basically, if the platform is free to stream to, we can just go cost the money,

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I guess. It doesn't like, if they're going to pay us something for using their streaming services,

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sick. Hug Boy says steam. We would have to make a game.

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It's like a hundred bucks. But then we could, we could stream to steam.

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That would be, I think, a first in the market.

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Kind of.

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Like you never have to release the game.

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Oh. Although I don't know if streaming is enabled before it goes live.

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Has this moved?

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Moved. It shouldn't have moved.

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Shouldn't have moved. Is that for the right account? Do we have more than one account?

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No.

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I mean, I did get an email from someone asking me to reset the password for it.

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I'm kidding. Relax. I actually cannot get into the account though, so you don't need to relax about that.

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Oh. Do you need it?

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I mean, I need to know that, like, we have it.

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Yeah. If that makes sense.

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Dan, I'm going to be sending you messages.

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Look at my phone.

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Efficient.

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Or, I mean, do you want me to come and, like, pick them up from you?

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That'd be so sick. I could get, like, a little string and connect it together and just hand over hand.

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That'd be kind of fun.

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New infrastructure. Yeah.

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Okay, but I just told you I'm sending you messages and you're not reading them.

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My phone didn't vibrate.

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But the air did. Modern notifications are so ridiculous.

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It's so frustrating.

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Imagine having notifications on for anything other than when going live.

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Exactly. Beast. Exactly.

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That's based like a turkey.

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And why do you leave on vibrate when you type fringe?

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What is your thing? Oh, is it Dan?

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Oh, I thought it was you.

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No.

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It's funny because I was sitting here silently judging you and then you sat there and audibly

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and it was neither of us.

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Oh, okay.

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Oh, wow.

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Why do you like this?

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It didn't work.

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Okay, that didn't work. I mean, it's not that I couldn't access that.

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It just isn't working.

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Speaking in code. Yeah.

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No, that really wasn't what I needed help with. Oh, that's why that's why the thing is moving.

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Yeah. See, no, no, no. We were both doing this.

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Yeah. No, no, no. I know how to log into account Dan.

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Okay, so then. Sorry, then this is Luke's fault.

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Nice.

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Nice.

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Dude, we have the funniest moment.

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There's this YouTuber that I'd never heard of. He reviews rations.

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He eats old military rations and stuff. No way.

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What? What? I know who it is within seconds.

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Yeah. Anyway, so he does this thing.

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Blah, blah, blah. We'll get it on the tray. Nice.

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Yeah. So, Ploof apparently watches him.

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So, we have a video that's coming up this weekend.

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And normally, you know, we would build a computer or whatever.

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Wait, you're filming a video with Steve?

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No. 1989, whatever? No.

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Oh, okay. You have a video with Ploof coming out this weekend. Yeah.

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Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The video is, we built a five-star gaming PC.

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We did a sequel to Herd Mentality. Got it.

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So, everything has to be five stars with at least 100 reviews wherever possible.

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So, we just buy the top rated components. And anyway, the point of it is to kind of talk through the rationale and to talk about what's

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good and what people found was bad about them, the few people that didn't like these components.

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So, when we bring out the case, we're just like, we just like bring out the case.

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And then we're just like, let's get all the parts in it.

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And they're like, I walked through the frame and they just ping me up here.

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Nice. It's nice. Oh, dude, it's so funny.

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I'd never heard of him. He's great. Yeah.

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Yeah, it's great. Crazy dude. Good video.

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Absolutely crazy dude. There's no way I would eat that stuff.

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Oh, some of the ones that he's gone for is just like.

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Yeah. I wouldn't do that. What a gastrointestinal champion.

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Yeah. Well, I tried that, but I don't see one that came through.

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So, apparently he only got sick ones for meeting them.

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That meat from World War One. Dude, yeah.

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He's gone. He's gone into some stuff that's like.

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You can get that. That's like museum stuff at this point.

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Yeah. He does a lot of. How would you, how do you buy that?

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Yeah, I don't know. I mean, I've never tried.

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But I know sometimes he's gotten access to stuff that he's like really not supposed to

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be able to get access to. Dude, a hard tack from the Civil War.

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Yeah.

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Yeah. Because there's no way he should have some of that stuff.

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Not from like the Civil War, like maybe someone found it in some basement or something, but

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there's things from like foreign militaries that are not for sale right now.

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Like if it's modern or whatever, they probably wouldn't even want like, you know, people

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to know what's in it and stuff, you know, like it could be a proprietary blend of spices,

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Luke. Yeah. I think it's mostly like they just, they don't want soldiers and whatnot trying to sell them

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for profit because they won't be able to know how much stores they have if that's happening.

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But, yeah.

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What is hard tack?

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Change it? I think we might have to, but that's...

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Okay, am I just not logging in today?

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Well, no, no, don't log out if you're logged in.

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Just open a private browser and do it that way.

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Okay. Maybe I'm over it.

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I think we should be over it. I'm over it now.

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Okay. Okay. I've closed the tab and it is no longer in my mind.

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Cool. This is such a clickbait title in this video.

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Look at this.

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Wow. Yeah, I know, right?

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Wait, is that ours? Yeah, it's LMG clips.

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Oh, the heck? What is that about?

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Well, there's only one way to find out.

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Reading the comments. Hey, Wansho.

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Hey, Wansho audience. There's this idea that's been going around.

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I know, I think it's David has asked if you guys would be interested in an entire season

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of the most recent Scrapyard Wars being uploaded as one video.

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So with the intros and outros removed of the middle ones and the intro left on the first one

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and the outro left on the last one. They just have one long video.

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Okay. I know you guys are already interested in that. That's not my actual question.

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My actual question is what about previous seasons of Scrapyard Wars being uploaded as one long

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video on LMG clips? Because we can't do that on line of tech tips.

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It would get murdered. I'm assuming.

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But what about LMG clips? What if just in one day we just like obliterated our like notification limit and just like did

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all of them? Why?

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Maybe on LTT where they should probably be.

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It's not a clip.

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Wouldn't you just kill your channel performance?

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For a bit. Very short period. If we had like a banger, no, if we had like a banger video to upload the day after it

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would probably be fine. That is a really clip fate thing.

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Luke has a dark past and I'm in like kiss makeup.

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What the heck is, what is this? I don't know who's in charge of the titles and thumbnails on LMG clips right now, but

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they're doing some work. What is this?

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The problem with Linus is about you not being very good at super checks.

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I don't believe you. It actually is.

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No way. It's about me like studying the tape and getting good.

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That's the problem with Linus. Yeah, right. And then we talk about that game that neither of us is going to pick up, the Valve one,

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the hero shooter. Oh. Yeah.

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So it's like. I haven't played it since. Yeah, I haven't even been remotely tempted.

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Yeah.

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I'm just completely over it.

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It's crap. You're at worst channel. Yeah.

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I would get an upload once every several years.

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I mean, it's funny though. There's like, there's channels that are just like the American, the office compilations

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and like, dude, that shows been off the air for like 10 years.

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Like how are you still uploading things? Yeah.

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Look at this.

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Just the whole freaking movie.

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That's crazy. How's this been up for a year?

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1.7 million views. I didn't. There's a bunch of these.

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I didn't get that movie. I don't like love that movie.

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I was like, I don't get it. How did you not get it?

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Seems pretty straightforward. Wait.

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Is there like a different...

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Hmm. Oh, well here's the problem.

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Hold on. No, that wasn't it. Oh, that's a different movie.

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How many... Okay.

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I don't know. I'm just confused right now.

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So I'm not going to say anymore. All right.

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Cool. Yeah. Anyway, movies uploaded to YouTube.

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Should we start the show? Are you sure it's actually the movie?

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Someone at Full Point Chat asked, the one that I looked up.

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Yes, I'm 100% sure it's the movie.

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Well, apparently the like new Deadpool was up.

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Had 1 million views. A million views.

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Wow. Wow. And then Disney pulled it down.

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I guess if certain things aren't in content ID.

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Looking at how long it took the Twitter thing to get responded to,

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big companies move slow. Yeah.

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When Bingo had a great idea, Scrapyard Wars Seattle,

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traveling Scrapyard Wars is super annoying.

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Yeah. And really expensive.

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Just saying. Also, why would Seattle be better?

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Seattle's like the closest possible thing in the world to Vancouver.

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Wow. People super hate form Labs.

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Really? Yeah. Why?

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Apparently they're like awful. At what?

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At being nice.

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They charge a license fee to use third party resins, apparently.

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And they apparently bought someone else in order to cancel their product

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just for the sake of them not existing.

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Yeah, it's too bad.

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Because it seemed like Tynan did a pretty good job on the video,

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on their resin printer. But people, people hate it.

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And the product seems like really good.

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Like I was looking at some of the stuff you printed with it.

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It's like, wow. Like he printed a clear item that was like.

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Really good. Clear. It looked like high quality injection molding.

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I was blown away. Wow.

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All right. Oh, wow.

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What's up? All them comments, eh? Oh, yeah.

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I know people are like super bad. I'm reading Chewy's Community Report for the week.

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Mm-hmm.

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Okay.

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Should we do this thing?

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I'm good to go if you guys are.

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Are you good to go if us guys are?

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Yeah. Then we're good.

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Then we're good to go. Just keep going in the circle.

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I could be like that. I could be a jerk.

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I could be a jerk in my circle. I could tell how he said it.

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I was like, someone's coming. Get it?

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No, don't do it. Don't set that up.

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Luke, you moron.

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Man, this shows such a mess sometimes. Did you see your, oh, you put it under your laptop.

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You have a new leather coaster thing.

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Is that? I didn't put it. Someone visited for a tour and they gave us.

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Oh, cool. You have one too, Dan. I do?

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Yours is bread. It is. No way.

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Dan's is bread. Yours is supposed to be Lambo colors. Oh, man.

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And mine is light mode Floatplane colors.

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Why are you disrespectful like that? What do you mean? What do you mean?

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What do you mean it's supposed to be Lambo colors? It's Lambo colors. Oh, my God.

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Wow. Bread. Bread.

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Wow. Backhanded. This guy.

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Absolute mean girl.

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Dan's is pretty cool.

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I noticed you didn't say mine was pretty cool.

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Is that because it's supposed to be Lambo colors?

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Whatever that means.

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Well, it's not actually Lambo colors.

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Do you want me to go in on it?

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This is a gift.

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I think it looks great. The utter disrespect. I think it looks more watermelony than the actual Lambo colors.

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The utter disrespect. Which is like better.

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But maybe the disrespect is to the original paint job of the Lambo.

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Yeah, there could be a Lambo somewhere that color. You don't know.

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Have you seen them all?

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Someone probably has. All right, I'm assuming the selected.

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Yeah, how's the mouth of that gift horse?

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What's up, everybody? And welcome to the WAN Show.

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We've got a great show lined up for you this week, and it is a sad day.

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Yeah. Today we found out that Anantek has been shut down.

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And I don't know, I think it'd be kind of fun to...

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Well, we'll do a quick rundown of exactly, you know, what went down.

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There's been some commentary from Dr. Ian Kutris,

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who formerly worked there. And I think it'd be kind of cool for us to, you know,

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all kind of talk together about what that site meant to us

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and how it's impacted our journey in tech.

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Because it really, for those of you who are relatively new to the scene,

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it really was a big deal back in the day.

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Not so much these days, and I guess that's why it's dead.

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In other news, the Telegram CEO was arrested in France.

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This blew my mind.

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Absolutely blew my mind. We'll be talking about that. What else we got?

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We've got a fake person, a well-known activist

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that might apparently not even be real.

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Might seems like some pretty hedged wording here.

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It's almost certainly not real. It looks bad. And speaking of hedged wording,

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a new version of Windows unlocks crazy Ryzen performance boost.

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Nice. Yeah, maybe they should have... Oh, wait, there's a blurb.

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Oh, I guess I do it after the intro.

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The show is brought to you by MSI and Lion Audio Pulseway,

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our chair partner secret lab, and our new laptop partner, LG.

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Always loved me some LGs, and now Luke and I each have one.

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They sent over these new Gram Pros for us to use,

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and we finally have matching laptops. They're thin, they're super light, especially for being 17 inch,

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and they're packed with some pretty darn good specs too.

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You can learn more about them at the link in the video description.

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Yep, we got some Mexican Gs right here.

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LGs.

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Oh, by the way, I guess this is the part where I should probably do a framework sponsor disclosure.

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Hey, look, look. LG, the amount of conversations people have had about the laptops

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that we've used over the years, when they weren't sponsoring the placement,

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they can deal with this one being a little awkward to start.

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Don't worry, I'll do a really professional job the next time.

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Why don't we jump right into our headline topic today?

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A non-tech has shut down.

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They've announced that the company will seize publication after 27 years.

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27 years? Pretty crazy.

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I'm feeling old. That's a good reason to feel old.

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I didn't even think about it. I would not have thought it was 27 years old.

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I started reading a non-tech when it was pretty established,

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and it was 2003 or something, 2002.

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I don't know, yeah, like 2002 was probably when I started avidly reading a non-tech.

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The good news, there is a small silver lining here.

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The website will remain publicly available,

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and the non-tech forums will remain active, or at least as active as they are.

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For now. As far as I can tell, I saw a comment that there's no way to register on the site right now.

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I don't know if that applies to the forum, but comments under the articles,

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you apparently can't register, but people who have accounts can still comment.

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So we'll see how long that keeps going.

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We'll see how long the forum lasts. Forums are tough.

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It's a tough time to be a forum. Anyway, the site was founded by Anand Shimpi in 1997 when he was just 15 years old.

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It was purchased by Perch in late 2014 when Shimpi retired from journalism to join Apple.

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Then in 2018, it was sold alongside other Perch owned properties like Tom's Hardware

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to British publisher Future PLC.

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Former on non-tech senior editor Dr. Ian Cuttrust has released a video on the closure

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in which he expressed that a non-tech had been in decline for some time.

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It's an astute observation. We did need Dr. Cuttrust to come in and pull out his monoscope and have a look at it or whatever.

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I mean, that's absolutely the truth.

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Okay, we're going off script now.

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A non-tech was seriously like one of my half a dozen bookmarks in my browser.

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For me, it would have been... Oh, dude, Linus, when I first met Linus, if he wasn't working on a video for some reason

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or working at NCIX or whatever, and sometimes even when he was, he usually had a non-tech open.

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Yeah, like literally all the time. It was like my home away from home.

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I had my email, I had NCIX and the forum.

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I had separate bookmarks for each just in case I needed to shop really, really fast

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or go to the forum really, really fast. I had extreme systems.

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I had a non-tech. I had red flag deals.

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At some point when I was doing a lot of trading, I probably had my heat wear in there.

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That was it. That was my entire internet world.

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There were other sites that I read. I read hard OCP.

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I would pop into Tom's hardware every once in a while.

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There's an extreme something. This is an interesting one.

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Guru3D. I liked Guru3D. This is an interesting one that I've been seeing a lot of.

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Phil H. in chat said, I'm amazed that Tom's hardware will have outlasted a non-tech

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as that place has been an ad-infested monstrosity for about a decade, but it somehow keeps going.

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That is how. Yeah.

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One of the things that Ryan Smith, who was the current editor-in-chief at a non-tech

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said was that they were given the latitude to run the site the way that they wanted.

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I mean, I'm not sure that I entirely buy that because the non-tech that I used to read 10

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years ago did not have nearly as much click bait garbage on it as the current version

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of the site. Yeah, but they might have been trying to.

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At least editorially, I think is what he was trying to say.

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Editorially, they were able to run the site the way that they wanted.

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I guess that should give you guys some idea of how difficult it is to run a site that

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is not just churning out AI-generated or even just AI-assisted lists of products that the

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editor has never actually ever set their hands on.

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Let's see what else. In Dr. Kutcher's opinion, this was the result of the gradual attrition of key staff members

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who left as a non-tech's corporate owners pushed towards more commercial topics that

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they weren't interested in writing about. I suspect it's a little more complicated than that as well, but I mean, I'm sure that he

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keeps in touch with folks there from time to time.

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What few new people were coming into the company weren't sufficient to replace those who left

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leading to a negative feedback loop of declining capacity and scope.

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This then led to declining reinvestment on the part of a non-tech's owners and lower pay

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for freelancers. Kutcher's also said that additional layers of management made communicating these issues

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upwards increasingly difficult. I can tell you as an outsider, the main issue for me was that I just wasn't really interested

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in what they were covering. I don't know how much of this is topic choice and how much of this is how challenging the

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space has become. There's not as much kitschy, interesting stuff these days.

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I could see if I was shopping for an AIO cooler.

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This is fine, I guess, but clearly almost no one cared.

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What is this thing? The number of random small form factor computers from brands that I've never heard of?

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They said that got the most comments outside of the AMD Ryzen launch of anything that I'm

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seeing on the front page so far. No, you got to scroll down a bit though.

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What are all these coolers? Was that the only thing that they still had a test bench for?

456
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:22,400
It's not just recent. It's been for a very, very long time that I just haven't been able to get into the stuff

457
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:29,400
that they've been reviewing. You could see when there's something interesting to write about, they're still getting engagement.

458
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:34,400
I'd be a little more interested in this than I think 16 comments merits.

459
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:38,400
It's kind of cool, but it also doesn't really matter.

460
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:41,400
It's a power supply and the things are on the edge.

461
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:45,400
It's going to probably be kind of okay-ish.

462
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:54,400
It's probably not going to be the best one. I guess there's just so many known quantities these days.

463
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:58,400
This was another thing that I had noticed with an Nantec over the years was like,

464
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:01,400
EnterMax, who cares?

465
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:08,400
It's not 2003 anymore. EnterMax is such a small player in the enthusiast space these days

466
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:13,400
in terms of how the average gamer might perceive them.

467
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:20,400
They just haven't kept up. To be clear, I'm not saying EnterMax is not a valid brand or that EnterMax makes a bad product.

468
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:24,400
That absolutely is not what I'm saying. The brand doesn't carry a lot of clicks by its own.

469
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:29,400
Compared to 2002, 2003, when it was Ntec,

470
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:34,400
EnterMax and irrelevant.

471
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:38,400
Before OCC stormed onto the scene,

472
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:45,400
before power supplies were twinkled and burned out, fizzled out.

473
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:49,400
Before power supplies were a twinkle in Corsair's eye,

474
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:53,400
EnterMax was hugely important.

475
00:37:53,400 --> 00:38:00,400
It's like, why are you guys reviewing two EnterMax power supplies in a span of a month?

476
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:07,400
There were times when I wouldn't accuse a Nantec of pay for play,

477
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:13,400
especially because I read Ryan's article and he said that they were left to their own devices editorially.

478
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:21,400
But I would see stuff like this. What is the Geekom A7 mini PC and how could I possibly care about this?

479
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:26,400
How is that out of all the bazillion things that you could cover, the thing that you want to cover?

480
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:30,400
I guess it's a pretty easy category to cover. Is it also who they have?

481
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:35,400
Someone likes doing those and specializes in those, so it's freelance writing?

482
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:41,400
I don't know, man. This is a tough one because...

483
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:45,400
On the one hand, I hear something like that and I go,

484
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:49,400
well, management needs to manage that person.

485
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:55,400
They need to work with them to develop an interest in something else,

486
00:38:55,400 --> 00:39:01,400
something that is commercially viable.

487
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:06,400
In the case of a Nantec, I'm not even saying, hey, they should just do the most mainstream stuff.

488
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:14,400
That's never what the site was. Commercially viable doesn't mean that it has to be what...

489
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:19,400
Think Geek, or think Geek, what was that lifehacker back in the day?

490
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:24,400
It doesn't have to be what lifehacker is doing. It doesn't have to be the most mainstream thing or the verge or whatever else.

491
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:34,400
It could be a deeper dive, but it needs to be a deeper dive into not the...

492
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:41,400
I'm still scrolling here, so I'm going to go back to that last one that I was picking on.

493
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:50,400
Whatever that weird thing was. When I look at that writer, Ganesh Ts, when I look at that writer, it's a lot of these types of things.

494
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:54,400
I feel like this might be a freelancer who's just interested in these types of things.

495
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:57,400
I don't know if it's a management situation.

496
00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:02,400
But then the other side of it is, as someone who works out a place,

497
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:08,400
is it not worth considering if the work that you're doing is commercially viable

498
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:12,400
and will continue to keep you gainfully employed?

499
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:16,400
Maybe this is old fashioned or something, but when I was at NCIX,

500
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:21,400
I worried a lot about the value of the work that I was doing.

501
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:28,400
I know you're the same way. If it didn't feel valuable, not only did I not feel personally fulfilled by it,

502
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:35,400
but I was stressed by it. Well, yeah, because you start to wonder if the walls start to crumble,

503
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:38,400
are you the easiest thing to drop? Yeah.

504
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:41,400
You question the value that you're bringing.

505
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:47,400
You don't have to be the most valuable member of a team, but you never want to be an obvious place to cut.

506
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:50,400
Yeah. I don't know.

507
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:57,400
I look at a lot of the editorial decisions that were made in terms of what to cover

508
00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:01,400
and what was taking up space on the homepage.

509
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:06,400
It doesn't surprise me that readership fell.

510
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:09,400
Pete Kinetic says, if you're a freelancer, do you care?

511
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:12,400
Yeah. Yeah. Don't you like your freelance checks?

512
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:15,400
Do you still have a job? Where do they come from?

513
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:19,400
Yeah. Yeah. It still matters.

514
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:26,400
It's like your portfolio, right? If my portfolio, and to be clear, I've never met Ryan.

515
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:30,400
I haven't met, I don't think...

516
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:35,400
Certainly, I haven't had a long conversation with anyone else on the non-tech team right now.

517
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:38,400
To be super clear, I'm not saying it's this person's fault.

518
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:41,400
Yeah. It's absolutely nothing personal.

519
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:45,400
But as a freelancer, wouldn't I want my portfolio to be something,

520
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:51,400
someone that I send it to wants to read? And it's possible this person did and might have wanted to do something else,

521
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:56,400
and they had them on the team as a mini PC person or something,

522
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:59,400
and that's just what they wanted me to do. Yeah, but then that's a management issue.

523
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:02,400
I do agree. So that's what I'm saying. I'm not blaming anybody.

524
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:08,400
I'm just saying, as a team, you got to kind of at some point look at what you're doing

525
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:11,400
and go, hey, is this valuable?

526
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:14,400
Is this moving the needle?

527
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:22,400
Yeah. And there's a lot to be said for the integrity of being interesting and passionate about something

528
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:29,400
and single-mindedly pursuing that, regardless of whether you're a particular art,

529
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:35,400
because I don't see writing a review as a purely scientific endeavor.

530
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:41,400
I think that there's an art to making it engaging and making it accessible and making it interesting.

531
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:45,400
I think as well. Like, looking at this, not going to lie.

532
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:51,400
I think it's just there isn't interesting things. Like, they're releasing so many articles.

533
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:54,400
Yeah. The stuff's just not there. Yeah.

534
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:58,400
And like, I was, okay, like there was some stuff that I was looking at.

535
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:03,400
I hate to pick on Ganesh again, because it's like SSD reviews, like portable SSD reviews.

536
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:12,400
And I'm like, really? But then SSD reviews were one of the things that Anant and Tech really set themselves apart from.

537
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:16,400
When I was learning how to test SSDs, I read a lot of Anant and Tech articles.

538
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:26,400
Anant's original review of the X25 series was what ultimately drove me to get super into them

539
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:34,400
and pay a bunch of money to get them for myself, which is why I made videos.

540
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:42,400
Like this, that I got called out for SSD versus hard drives and like SSD buyers guides and stuff like this.

541
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:50,400
You got called out for it? Yeah. Because back then, people didn't get it because they thought that it was all about boot times.

542
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:59,400
So that was why I came up with this idea of putting together like a bunch of practical tests to show people that it wasn't just boot time.

543
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:04,400
So I would do like application launches and game loading and stuff like that.

544
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:14,400
And I did like a side-by-side drag race because a lot of the marketing from the SSD makers and from the system makers was just boot times.

545
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:18,400
And I was like, well, that's stupid. You don't boot up your computer very often.

546
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:25,400
No wonder people think these things are stupid because you got to understand back then the price was so high for an SSD.

547
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:31,400
And we were so used to waiting around for our hard drives that it felt like people called me shill.

548
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:34,400
They called me ignorant. They called me whatever.

549
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:46,400
They called me all kinds of things for saying, hey, no SSDs, but it was actually like a nonce coverage that got me really interested in them and got me really excited about them.

550
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:55,400
I really think, though, that there's content on here that they're doing just because they need something to fill the pipeline.

551
00:44:55,400 --> 00:45:00,400
Like power supplies, there's a lot of them.

552
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:06,400
They're not super interesting to all the viewers, but there's a ton of them so they can fill the pipeline.

553
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:14,400
Coolers, I don't think their cooler reviews are getting a ton of traffic, but there's a ton of coolers so you can make a lot of topics.

554
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:22,400
Part of the issue, I haven't actually thought about a non-tech in so long because I just stopped reading because it got really boring.

555
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:26,400
But part of the issue is that they're still doing a really old school style of article.

556
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:31,400
They're reviewing a cooler. You don't review a cooler anymore.

557
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:34,400
You round up a bunch of price comparables.

558
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:40,400
And they did roundups back in the day, but maybe the issue is that they just don't have the budget and time for it, right?

559
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:45,400
We don't know all the constraints. An interesting one. Let's just have a business meeting on the show.

560
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:49,400
Oh. Why are we doing that then?

561
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:52,400
So the idea is that...

562
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:56,400
So power supplies. Like, are you talking about power supplies specifically?

563
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:59,400
Everything. So the idea...

564
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:03,400
Right now, just for... Not a lot of people go to the website.

565
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:08,400
Right now, we have mice, keyboards, graphics cards, power supplies.

566
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:14,400
So I think that we definitely need to figure out what our focus needs to be.

567
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:24,400
But I can tell you that the reason that we started with power supplies was it's supposed to be something that we can automate to a significant degree.

568
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:28,400
I don't know how deep you want to get into this business meeting.

569
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:32,400
Oh, that. But...

570
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:44,400
Sure. I don't know. The representations to me about the degree to which they could be automated have been very different from how the situation actually is.

571
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:55,400
Yeah. So, I mean, we haven't really talked about this much, but Luke is the interim head of the Labs right now and has been doing a deep dive into how things are going over there.

572
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:59,400
And why are we doing power supplies?

573
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:03,400
Public service. I want to need something that starts with the U.

574
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:06,400
Undertaking. Oh, nice. Okay.

575
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:10,400
That's the reason. I want to know which ones are bad, Luke.

576
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:13,400
When we do a budget build guide, I want to know if it's going to blow up.

577
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:16,400
Okay, here's something you can't put a price tag on.

578
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:19,400
We did a video recently where... Okay, so the reason...

579
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:22,400
No, no, no, sorry. Let me finish. Let me finish.

580
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:26,400
We did a video recently where we bought systems from people on Facebook Marketplace.

581
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:29,400
We bought three systems for $900.

582
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:33,400
And in one of them, they used a GameMax power supply.

583
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:38,400
Now, in the old days, I would have said, I've never really heard of these guys.

584
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:47,400
They don't seem particularly reputable, but I have nothing to say positive or negative from my own personal experience about the quality of this unit.

585
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:54,400
Thanks to LTT Labs, I was able to say the GameMax products that we've tested have failed our testing.

586
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:57,400
This is not a reputable brand.

587
00:47:57,400 --> 00:48:07,400
That knowledge has been now passed to the million and a half or so people, or 1.1 or 1.2 million people who watched that video.

588
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:13,400
And we wouldn't have known unless Lucas did his fine work that he's doing.

589
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:16,400
To be clear, not me. Yeah. Yeah, Luke.

590
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:19,400
Oh, yeah. Sorry. Lucas.

591
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:22,400
You win. The tall one. Really?

592
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:25,400
Yeah. Yeah. Very tall, very smart.

593
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:30,400
Yeah. Lucas hadn't done his work, and I believe Oni did the write-up for that one.

594
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:38,400
Yep. And if Sammy hadn't worked on how the visualizations for these things work, if those people hadn't done that work, we wouldn't know.

595
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:41,400
Because who is out there testing this stuff? Because it's not profitable.

596
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:44,400
Oh, a non-tech. Well, they weren't.

597
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:48,400
They didn't test any GameMax anything. They just test Thermaltake and Enormax for some reason.

598
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:52,400
But here's a conflict of interest problem, though.

599
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:56,400
Conflict of interest? We're continuing the business meeting.

600
00:48:56,400 --> 00:49:01,400
What about Linus's framework, power supply investment?

601
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:04,400
That's not what I meant. PSU linked.

602
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:07,400
No, that's not what it's called. PSU circuit.

603
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:11,400
All right, run your laptop.

604
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:16,400
Run your laptop. You're not in charge of Labs now, are you?

605
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:22,400
There's been conversations around this, because this is PSU circuit, right?

606
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:25,400
And some of these don't get very many views.

607
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:31,400
And now it has been discussed that this is supposed to be just, like, again, a community service thing.

608
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:34,400
So, okay. But it has also been stressed. Not community service?

609
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:37,400
Neither of us has been convicted of a crime as yet.

610
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:40,400
Oh, no, you can do... Can you do that without...?

611
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:43,400
Well, I think that... It would be called volunteering, I guess. Yeah.

612
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:47,400
Okay, fair enough. Yeah, I think the connotation of community service is that you had it coming.

613
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:56,400
Probably, yeah, fair enough, okay. So, people have been pointing at things like the CSONIC Focus GX750, and going, like, okay, this is not the launch.

614
00:49:56,400 --> 00:50:01,400
So, the launch one got 10K, and then they got 2K after that for a little bit, and then they started faltering.

615
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:04,400
Yeah. Sama, no one cared. That CSONIC did pretty good.

616
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:07,400
But this one, this one did pretty good. And then after that...

617
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:10,400
Yup. So, it's going to have to be a mix.

618
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:16,400
It's going to have to be a mix of, basically, it needs to be a mix of the things people are buying.

619
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:21,400
But then, like, this... And the things people shouldn't be buying. But this Sama one has gotten some flak.

620
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:24,400
This is, again, this is internal business meeting. You guys are here as an accessory.

621
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:27,400
Yeah. We thank you for being an audience.

622
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:36,400
Thanks for attending. Yeah, this is actually really efficient, because we're able to host a video while also having a conversation that we would have had to have anyway.

623
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:40,400
Yeah. So, this one, there's a lot of reasons to test this one.

624
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:48,400
The logo and stuff makes it really feel like it's a CSONIC power supply.

625
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:56,400
So, it's tricking some people. So, by getting the information out there and making it very searchable, all that type of stuff, we're still fitting that category.

626
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:59,400
But then, this is getting negative flak, because it didn't perform very well.

627
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:03,400
So, it's like, we have to try to... Wait, are we getting flak because we covered it?

628
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:08,400
No, no, no, no, no. Oh, like, internally, people are questioning why we're bothering.

629
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:11,400
Well, with the whole channel, but also specifically with that.

630
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:14,400
It's going to have to be a mix. It's going to have to be a mix.

631
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:17,400
We're going... But then we can't... Yeah.

632
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:26,400
If it has to be a mix, then we can't stress the performance of the individual videos and the performance of the individual pages.

633
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:29,400
No. No what?

634
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:32,400
No, we can't. Yeah. Yeah.

635
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:35,400
Okay. All right. I mean, did I?

636
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:38,400
I don't remember. Maybe. Probably not.

637
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:46,400
I don't know. I think that the mix that we've had so far has been a little weird, like the fact that almost every power supply has been a 750 watt.

638
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:49,400
Yeah, that's changing. Yeah. So, like...

639
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:53,400
I will also credit that. Yeah. I mean, it started changing before I came in.

640
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:56,400
Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's fine. That's not a mean...

641
00:51:56,400 --> 00:52:02,400
I just mean, there's definitely some stuff that we've got to do to optimize the mix here.

642
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:08,400
There should definitely be more, you know, your Corsair, your C-Sonic, your reputable brands.

643
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:12,400
I would like to really focus on the stuff that people are buying.

644
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:20,400
Like, the fact that we don't have like a Thermaltake Smart 430 watt in there is in my opinion.

645
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:28,400
And look, I haven't been hand-holding this, so I haven't necessarily given this feedback before.

646
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:35,400
So, my apologies if this is a surprise to anybody, but the fact that we don't have like a 430 watt Thermaltake in there is a huge miss to me.

647
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:40,400
Because the number of people that are buying these things is enormous.

648
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:44,400
And we can see that in the reviews on sites like New Egg and Amazon.

649
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:55,400
And what I want to know as someone who is, you know, in charge of recommending products to people is, okay, but how bad is it?

650
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:58,400
Yeah. Is it that bad?

651
00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:02,400
Like, is it bad like it's going to fail?

652
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:09,400
Is it break your system in a year? Is it bad like when it fails, it could light on fire?

653
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:22,400
I need to know this stuff. And so power supplies, I'd say, is probably the vertical that we are closest to in terms of the vision for how the lab is supposed to function.

654
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:29,400
And I have actually repeatedly talked about PSU Circuit as something that I consider to be a win.

655
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:34,400
Yes, I know that. I've been trying to explain to people why that's true.

656
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:37,400
Because this is what we are trying to do.

657
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:40,400
And it's going to take a long time for people to...

658
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:49,400
This is something that's really important to slam home for people because of a conversation that we had during this topic a little bit earlier.

659
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:56,400
We were talking about how people don't necessarily want to work on things that don't, like, do well.

660
00:53:56,400 --> 00:54:02,400
So it's really important to communicate to a team that, like, you know, the web articles are getting tons of views.

661
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:08,400
But GameMax, we impacted literally, even if we account for it, that people don't watch the entire video.

662
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:16,400
We impacted hundreds of thousands of people and made them aware that this brand is sketchy.

663
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:20,400
They wouldn't have known otherwise. Because no one's covering this stuff.

664
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:23,400
So that was included in an LTT video? Yeah. Okay, yeah, yeah.

665
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:26,400
Because the GameMax Circuit video got 1,500 views.

666
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:29,400
Sure. I was one of them.

667
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:32,400
And now I know. Right?

668
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:37,400
Like, that's what we're doing. That's what we're trying to do.

669
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:45,400
And it's going to take time to build out the verticals that we want to build out.

670
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:48,400
It's going to take time to automate what we need to automate.

671
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:51,400
There's a lot of that to be done. There's a lot more to do.

672
00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:56,400
There's also, like, I know there's been some criticism put towards the lab in regards to automation,

673
00:54:56,400 --> 00:55:01,400
because some people have pointed out, like, the more you automate stuff, the more you remove the human touch,

674
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:04,400
and you're less likely to catch things and stuff.

675
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:09,400
We're not trying to automate a lot of those types of things to be clear.

676
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:14,400
And I'm not trying to increase automation in the Labs, actually, necessarily,

677
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:18,400
to increase the amount that they can even do, necessarily.

678
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:21,400
I'm trying to make it so they can spend more time verifying results

679
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:24,400
and retesting things and doing things like that.

680
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:31,400
So, yeah, it's okay.

681
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:35,400
Okay. I don't think we ever actually ended up finishing the...

682
00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:38,400
I do think it's an interesting thing to consider, though,

683
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:45,400
that pretty much all of the things that you just pointed out for a non-tech,

684
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:51,400
we are diving into headfirst attempting to do the same thing.

685
00:55:51,400 --> 00:56:00,400
But what percentage of our headcount is working on PSU circuit?

686
00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:04,400
It's going to be three people, which is a pretty considerable amount.

687
00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:07,400
It takes a very noticeable amount of time.

688
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:12,400
But is there a benefit to the projects that the other people are working on

689
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:17,400
that do make money to having this resource and to having this knowledge?

690
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:23,400
Yes. All right. But it's just, you know, I'm just saying.

691
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:27,400
I'm just saying, I have a vision. I have a vision right now.

692
00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:33,400
I'm having a vision. And to be clear, just because I think some people might be getting squiggly legs right now,

693
00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:36,400
I support the Labs project.

694
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:39,400
I'm just trying to push him a little bit.

695
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:42,400
Look, I'll defend it all day.

696
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:49,400
Yeah. I'll defend it all day. Because I'm just saying all the criticisms that you lobbied towards a non-tech

697
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:53,400
are the exact same things that we are doing or planning to do.

698
00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:57,400
What a non-tech doesn't have is it doesn't have LTT.

699
00:56:57,400 --> 00:57:05,400
Yeah. LTT is basically this like evolution machine.

700
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:09,400
It is taking the feedback from the community.

701
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:12,400
It is processing it through the writing team, through me.

702
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:16,400
And it is constantly shifting and changing.

703
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:19,400
And sometimes it changes forward. Sometimes it changes backward.

704
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:24,400
But it's constantly trying new things in order to increase engagement,

705
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:29,400
to make sure that this business stays sustainable in order to feed resources back into the

706
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:34,400
machine that is supposed to build these resources that will in turn make LTT more

707
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:39,400
authoritative, which will in turn bring more viewership and more resources,

708
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:47,400
which will allow us to continue to build it. The way that I've been seeing it is that some people have said that the LTT Labs team is

709
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:50,400
supposed to be a support department for writing.

710
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:59,400
And I don't necessarily see it that way. We are supposed to support, yes, but we're supposed to support the content creation of

711
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:04,400
the company. That doesn't necessarily just mean writing. That doesn't necessarily mean a singular part of writing.

712
00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:08,400
That just means content creation within the company at all.

713
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:12,400
That also includes the Labs website, which is technically a separate thing from Labs,

714
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:16,400
but we're supporting the content of the Labs website.

715
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:23,400
And a lot of the ways that we do that is like this constant generation of articles and reviews

716
00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:27,400
that we're doing, say, on the website.

717
00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:34,400
In reality, do we really expect those articles to make enough money to be like this awesome

718
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:37,400
business within Linus Media Group?

719
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:40,400
Cop-Coff, look at what's happening to Anand. No, not really.

720
00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:44,400
But by doing that, we're going to keep up to speed.

721
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:48,400
We're going to be in the dirt of what's happening with these components all the time.

722
00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:54,400
So we ideally know what's going on or have at least a good idea of what's going on,

723
00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:58,400
because we'll be trying things out of the time. Will we be able to catch everything?

724
00:58:58,400 --> 00:59:05,400
No, but it should keep our level of educatedness on all of these topics up quite high.

725
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:13,400
That's the goal. And you know what? It's been slow, and we're not going to rush anything at this point.

726
00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:16,400
So it's going to take... In some situations, we are slowing down.

727
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:25,400
Yeah. We're going to take as long as we need to take, and Godspeed.

728
00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:29,400
Heck yeah.

729
00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:33,400
All right. Topic two says our paper over there.

730
00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:37,400
The Telegram CEO was arrested in France.

731
00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:42,400
Pavel Dorov, the CEO of Telegram, arrested this week on suspicion of failing to act against

732
00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:48,400
illicit actions on the service such as drug trafficking, fraud, and the exchange of child

733
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:55,400
sexual assault material. His arrest has caused a debate about free speech and government censorship with figures

734
00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:58,400
such as...

735
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:06,400
Is this like your personal Voldemort now? No, but it's just so stupid.

736
01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:17,400
With figures such as Elon Musk and Edward Snowden publicly defending Dorov as if Twitter

737
01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:23,400
doesn't follow all of the rules with respect to backdoors and whatever else.

738
01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:29,400
It's only some irrelevant market in South America that they'll go to bat against and

739
01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:35,400
give it a rest. Anyway, Edward Snowden has at least some street cred here.

740
01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:39,400
Dorov certainly seems to have a history of resisting government influence.

741
01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:44,400
Now, he seems to actually have a history of it, not just a history of being a blowhard.

742
01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:49,400
In 2006, he created the Facebook-like social media site now called VK in his native country

743
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:53,400
of Russia. It quickly became adopted by Russia's political opposition.

744
01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:58,400
The Kremlin allegedly began pressuring Dorov to sell the site to more state sympathetic

745
01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:04,400
parties in 2011. And when the Kremlin pressures you to do something, you either do it or you end up dead.

746
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:11,400
It's actually very different from the kind of bleeding about political censorship or

747
01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:14,400
whatever else that happens from some people.

748
01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:19,400
Dorov left Russia in 2014 claiming it was to avoid requests from the Kremlin to hand

749
01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:24,400
over the data of Ukrainian protesters, though he did succumb to pressure and sell his VK

750
01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:27,400
shares. To be clear, government censorship does happen here.

751
01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:30,400
Yes. The bleeding or not. Yes.

752
01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:38,400
It's just, yeah. It's very different from, hey, you should sell your shares, and then if you don't, then

753
01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:41,400
you jump out of a window.

754
01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:44,400
And shoot yourself in the back of the head at the same time.

755
01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:47,400
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

756
01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:50,400
Yeah. Very crafty. All right.

757
01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:55,400
While Telegram has a reputation for lax moderation, Dorov gave an interview to Financial

758
01:01:55,400 --> 01:01:59,960
Times this March where he claimed Telegram planned to improve moderation within the year

759
01:01:59,960 --> 01:02:05,080
using AI related mechanisms, though he stated he didn't think the app should police people

760
01:02:05,080 --> 01:02:11,040
unless they cross red lines. It's not clear what those lines are to him.

761
01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:15,840
This arrest has reignited the conversation on end to end encryption since Dorov was also

762
01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:22,440
charged with providing encryption without the required declaration.

763
01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:26,280
But Telegram's encryption is actually pretty bad, says our notes.

764
01:02:26,280 --> 01:02:29,520
It's not on by default. The setting is not the easiest thing to find.

765
01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:33,960
It only works for one-on-one conversations and can only be enabled when your conversation

766
01:02:33,960 --> 01:02:37,200
partner is also online. Interesting.

767
01:02:37,200 --> 01:02:40,400
Which I had to confess, I actually didn't know that.

768
01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:48,000
I knew Signal was like the better one, but I actually didn't know these details.

769
01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:52,000
So is it actually bad or are the settings just bad?

770
01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:55,360
As I said, the encryption is bad, but is that true?

771
01:02:55,360 --> 01:02:59,040
If it only works while your partner's online, it leaves a lot of room for error.

772
01:02:59,080 --> 01:03:02,760
It can only be enabled when the partner is online. It's also online, yeah.

773
01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:09,840
I'm assuming you turn it on and then it's on for that conversation. Yeah, that's, to me, that's a really poor mechanism for encryption.

774
01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:14,560
If I am using an app that I think is encrypted, I... Yeah, but that doesn't mean that the encryption itself is bad.

775
01:03:14,560 --> 01:03:18,200
No, no, no, I'm not saying AES whatever, like the actual encryption.

776
01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:24,720
I'm saying the implementation of the encryption in the app leaves a lot of room for user error.

777
01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:30,080
Is that a better way of phrasing it? Sure, yeah, yeah, yeah. I just think saying the encryption is bad is rough.

778
01:03:30,080 --> 01:03:33,800
I'm trying to see, is this the one that I use? I always get them mixed up.

779
01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:38,000
The Wiley in Floatplane chat says, I've also seen some academic analyses

780
01:03:38,000 --> 01:03:41,560
that their crypto design is questionable at best. Okay, yeah.

781
01:03:41,560 --> 01:03:44,040
I'm not even saying it's not legit. I just, I don't know.

782
01:03:46,240 --> 01:03:49,600
Because it's hand-rolled implementation instead of using a standard, well-tested one.

783
01:03:49,600 --> 01:03:53,200
Yeah, there's a number of people that are talking in Floatplane chat

784
01:03:53,200 --> 01:03:56,280
about how it's got issues, apparently.

785
01:03:56,280 --> 01:04:00,200
Not where at least could have issues.

786
01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:03,200
So, Luke. Yes.

787
01:04:03,200 --> 01:04:08,880
I'm trying to figure out, okay, whatever. An interesting take that I read on this.

788
01:04:08,880 --> 01:04:12,560
I believe this was an article somewhere I was reading.

789
01:04:12,560 --> 01:04:19,800
I forget. The point is, they basically were like, okay, here's a devil's advocate sort of take on

790
01:04:19,800 --> 01:04:31,480
this. You know, I signed up for Telegram. I joined some groups and within minutes, I had offers for everything from drugs to human

791
01:04:31,480 --> 01:04:39,200
trafficking to government, state-sponsored, subterfuge.

792
01:04:39,200 --> 01:04:47,360
It was absolutely wild how Telegram was essentially, should you choose to unlock that capability,

793
01:04:47,360 --> 01:04:56,360
which is very simple to do, was basically a black market, essentially.

794
01:04:56,360 --> 01:05:02,440
That's one perspective where if you were to go, okay, he's in trouble for, you know,

795
01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:07,680
what, providing people with encrypted communication. That sounds pretty bad.

796
01:05:07,680 --> 01:05:16,400
Or he is in trouble for essentially running a black market social network.

797
01:05:16,400 --> 01:05:22,200
I have a complicated position on this, but I thought maybe I'd let you go first.

798
01:05:22,200 --> 01:05:25,320
What are your thoughts? I don't know.

799
01:05:25,320 --> 01:05:31,680
Government-enforced platform moderation is always kind of a weird thing. State-sponsored subterfuge, not centrifuge.

800
01:05:31,680 --> 01:05:34,680
Did you say centrifuge? No. Oh.

801
01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:38,680
Who said centrifuge? Someone in the chat. That's a Stuxnet, right?

802
01:05:38,680 --> 01:05:42,720
That's pretty good.

803
01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:47,720
Or uranium, what?

804
01:05:47,720 --> 01:05:52,720
Sorry. I liked Dan's comment. Yeah, I don't know.

805
01:05:52,720 --> 01:05:58,280
Yeah, state-required moderation of platforms is weird.

806
01:05:58,280 --> 01:06:02,200
It goes both ways, right? It's the same thing as the opposite.

807
01:06:02,200 --> 01:06:05,840
State-required non-moderation of platforms is also weird, in my opinion.

808
01:06:05,840 --> 01:06:11,480
When people say, rah-rah, but my free speech, it's like, sure, but this isn't government

809
01:06:11,480 --> 01:06:16,000
property, or public property, or anything of the sort.

810
01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:22,800
This is my random website. We also have to be super careful with free speech, because free speech means free of

811
01:06:22,800 --> 01:06:28,720
government oppression. It doesn't mean anything to do with a private entity that owns a platform.

812
01:06:28,720 --> 01:06:37,080
So that's kind of weird in one side, but then the government forcing it is also weird.

813
01:06:37,080 --> 01:06:41,280
Because again, it's my platform, isn't it? So that's odd.

814
01:06:41,760 --> 01:06:45,480
If they make certain things, I don't know.

815
01:06:45,480 --> 01:06:54,400
But there has to be some oversight, right? Because you can't say, because you can't harbor whatever, being an accessory to a crime,

816
01:06:54,400 --> 01:07:01,320
or whatever. If I'm a government, and I tell you, look, you're not allowed to log anything from minors,

817
01:07:01,320 --> 01:07:04,760
or even suspected minors. So I do support that.

818
01:07:04,760 --> 01:07:18,200
I would support that. It's a nuanced conversation, but I don't think there's any avoiding that, for me, I support

819
01:07:18,200 --> 01:07:24,960
the existence of a platform like this, even if I wouldn't run it.

820
01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:32,280
It's scary when there are no tools to not be observed by the government, because we

821
01:07:32,280 --> 01:07:37,720
have seen so many times throughout history that just not go well.

822
01:07:37,720 --> 01:07:42,960
But the thing is that they're also... But then you also don't want to harbor all this bad stuff.

823
01:07:42,960 --> 01:07:53,440
There should be an expectation of privacy. I mean, when you sent a letter in the year 1823, or whatever, the expectation was that

824
01:07:53,440 --> 01:07:58,280
it is illegal to read it. I don't care who you are, you are not allowed to open it.

825
01:07:58,280 --> 01:08:12,200
That's not how that works. And that's basically all that Telegram is, that's all it is, is it's an implicitly telegrammed

826
01:08:12,200 --> 01:08:16,920
message to someone that is intended for their eyes and their eyes only.

827
01:08:16,920 --> 01:08:23,120
And so, you know, I look at this and I go... So if a platform wants to do that, it's hard for me to say that they shouldn't be able

828
01:08:23,120 --> 01:08:30,320
to... If they're chat enough to stand up to the regimes that would oppress people for communicating

829
01:08:30,320 --> 01:08:36,360
about things that aren't human trafficking, that are just living their lives and existing

830
01:08:36,360 --> 01:08:41,880
and that aren't bothering anybody, like freedom of expression, freedom of religion, whatever

831
01:08:41,880 --> 01:08:45,320
the case may be, then that's great.

832
01:08:45,320 --> 01:08:50,320
Like you go, girl. That's the weird thing. Like tools, screwdriver here, you could stab someone with it.

833
01:08:50,320 --> 01:08:55,520
You can use a hammer for bad things. This is an argument that works for so many things.

834
01:08:55,520 --> 01:09:01,320
Something that can absolutely be used for good, can very often also be used for bad

835
01:09:01,320 --> 01:09:06,000
things, but I don't know.

836
01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:09,760
You put yourself in a really bad spot if you remove these things that can be used for good

837
01:09:09,760 --> 01:09:13,720
because they can also be used for bad. You lose out on incredibly important things.

838
01:09:13,720 --> 01:09:20,200
I mean, we talked about this in our recent hacking tools, where it's like, what?

839
01:09:20,320 --> 01:09:23,320
If you get rid of the hammers? Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

840
01:09:23,320 --> 01:09:29,800
Good point. It's the hammer argument. Yeah, but with the hacking tools, if you ban all the hacking tools, then people aren't

841
01:09:29,800 --> 01:09:36,080
going to know how secure their things are as easily and also the people that have the

842
01:09:36,080 --> 01:09:42,080
ability to just make them anyways because some of them aren't inherently that complicated

843
01:09:42,080 --> 01:09:47,680
or now that the plans for making them are online, if you're crafty, you can make maybe

844
01:09:47,800 --> 01:09:51,280
a not quite as good version, but you can make your own version anyways.

845
01:09:51,280 --> 01:09:55,600
They're still going to exist, and now it's just harder for good people to get their hands

846
01:09:55,600 --> 01:10:03,280
on it. But with all of that said, I couldn't look in the eye of a trafficking victim who had

847
01:10:03,280 --> 01:10:06,280
escaped and tell them... Which is why we didn't make our own VPN.

848
01:10:06,280 --> 01:10:11,200
...and tell them, I'm going to keep running this platform.

849
01:10:11,200 --> 01:10:16,400
I don't have it in me.

850
01:10:16,400 --> 01:10:25,320
Which is why we... We don't do that. Honestly, for me, it's the same logic.

851
01:10:25,320 --> 01:10:28,960
Forget her name. She's super private. Hold on.

852
01:10:28,960 --> 01:10:38,960
What's her name? No, no, no, no, no.

853
01:10:38,960 --> 01:10:45,240
I can't remember. There's someone who works on another privacy platform and she's super cool.

854
01:10:45,240 --> 01:10:52,720
She did an interview recently. She doesn't do that many of them, but basically, she was like, yeah, this is really important.

855
01:10:52,720 --> 01:10:58,520
Dang it. Anyway, well, whatever, her whole being private thing worked then.

856
01:10:58,520 --> 01:11:02,520
Anyway, yeah, the point is, yeah, for me, it's really important.

857
01:11:02,520 --> 01:11:06,720
I support end-to-end encryption.

858
01:11:06,720 --> 01:11:09,720
Me too.

859
01:11:10,440 --> 01:11:18,680
I think there's room for conversations around what that implementation looks like.

860
01:11:18,680 --> 01:11:25,920
Should we be allowed to have an end-to-end encrypted, very large group chat, for example,

861
01:11:25,920 --> 01:11:29,400
where you could organize an attack or something like that.

862
01:11:29,400 --> 01:11:37,480
It's like, oh, yeah, maybe that would be bad. But then the flip side of that is, okay, the government has...

863
01:11:38,440 --> 01:11:45,320
Oh, okay, this is great. The government has declared that what's his nuts won the election, even though there's

864
01:11:45,320 --> 01:11:52,120
pretty significant evidence that he actually didn't and people need to organize so that

865
01:11:52,120 --> 01:11:55,520
they can gather so they can resist.

866
01:11:55,520 --> 01:12:01,600
That's why these platforms need to exist. The only problem... What if a place is under attack and you're trying to evacuate as many people as you possibly

867
01:12:01,600 --> 01:12:07,040
can and communications are being monitored so they can create choke points and you want

868
01:12:07,080 --> 01:12:12,760
to avoid that. There's lots of super legitimate reasons as to why you would want these tools.

869
01:12:12,760 --> 01:12:19,240
The problem is that they don't move at the speed of a telegram anymore.

870
01:12:19,240 --> 01:12:23,240
They move so fast that they're hard for enforcement to stay on top of.

871
01:12:23,240 --> 01:12:29,720
They're hard to deal with and there's really bad stuff happening.

872
01:12:29,720 --> 01:12:35,560
It's not like this stuff isn't going to happen, even if you take telegram away.

873
01:12:35,600 --> 01:12:40,400
These tools are so powerful now. They can happen so fast.

874
01:12:40,400 --> 01:12:45,640
No, I know. Money moves around in shadows just so much more easily than it used to.

875
01:12:45,640 --> 01:12:51,080
I don't even want to name them because I don't want to... I'm going to anyway, so get rekt.

876
01:12:51,080 --> 01:12:56,560
I feel like they actually... They don't cater to this stuff a ton, but it still happens on their platform anyways,

877
01:12:56,560 --> 01:13:03,080
but Discord, practically everyone has it these days and you can set up a server and invite

878
01:13:03,480 --> 01:13:07,000
2,000 people to it instantly and it all works instantly.

879
01:13:07,000 --> 01:13:11,960
And there's no like personally identifying information to create an account.

880
01:13:11,960 --> 01:13:15,120
You can create a complete throwaway account knowing it's going to be banned in two days

881
01:13:15,120 --> 01:13:20,400
and not care and then just... Yeah, whether it's encrypted or not, people are just going to be...

882
01:13:20,400 --> 01:13:24,600
And I, oh man, again, I was reading some article about this or other.

883
01:13:26,120 --> 01:13:32,640
And apparently there's just all kinds of like shorthands for discussing illicit material.

884
01:13:32,680 --> 01:13:43,040
I'm sure there is. As a person who doesn't get into that, I could read a conversation and I could have no idea

885
01:13:43,040 --> 01:13:46,480
that it's even about that. Well, that was a whole thing.

886
01:13:46,480 --> 01:13:50,720
I did not follow this enough, okay? And this is probably...

887
01:13:50,720 --> 01:13:56,840
I'm going to... This is going to open a can of worms. I just remember a lot of the whole keyword thing that you're talking about being a part

888
01:13:56,840 --> 01:14:00,320
of this conversation, but the whole pizza gate thing.

889
01:14:00,320 --> 01:14:04,480
Yeah. You've done hot dogs and do you want lunch and all this other type of stuff where it

890
01:14:04,480 --> 01:14:11,320
all means something else. It's like, okay, these sound like completely normal conversations, but like, yeah, I don't

891
01:14:11,320 --> 01:14:12,320
know.

892
01:14:17,320 --> 01:14:20,760
Russell Mania says, yeah, uh, crimeers use code words.

893
01:14:20,760 --> 01:14:24,320
I love that he called them crimeers. I read it too. Me too.

894
01:14:24,320 --> 01:14:27,320
Me too. That's great. Thank you for that.

895
01:14:27,320 --> 01:14:30,920
Okay, we're not talking about the pizza gate conspiracy theory around the like one pizza restaurant.

896
01:14:31,520 --> 01:14:35,240
No. Just the terminology. Didn't even want to bring it up.

897
01:14:35,240 --> 01:14:38,440
I just remember there was a lot of conversations at that time about code words.

898
01:14:38,440 --> 01:14:42,560
That's all. Someone said, Discord needs to moderate their platform better.

899
01:14:42,560 --> 01:14:51,040
Do you have any concept at all of how genuinely insane that would be?

900
01:14:51,040 --> 01:14:54,760
It'd be impossible. Like what a crazy task.

901
01:14:54,760 --> 01:14:59,760
If we want moderated Discord on the level that you're talking about, I hope you're ready

902
01:14:59,760 --> 01:15:03,520
to pay 15 bucks a month like or more.

903
01:15:03,520 --> 01:15:11,600
Yeah. That's the thing. Like these services are only viable as long as they're financially viable, right?

904
01:15:11,600 --> 01:15:20,120
Like you can't just say, oh, well they need to, okay, with what army, right?

905
01:15:20,120 --> 01:15:24,240
Like it, it can't even just be, it can't even just be randoms.

906
01:15:24,240 --> 01:15:28,000
Like these people would need training. They'd need criminal record checks.

907
01:15:28,000 --> 01:15:32,280
You know, they would need, the whole thing would have to be monitored and overseen.

908
01:15:32,280 --> 01:15:41,160
Who does it, right? Comments said, or pay per server, lol, yeah, except Discord killed all of those.

909
01:15:41,160 --> 01:15:45,800
Yeah. Ventrilo and TeamSpeak and all those services are gone, basically.

910
01:15:45,800 --> 01:15:54,680
I know I technically still use TeamSpeak. Some of them, like the TeamSpeak technically exists, but like, come on, it is not the same

911
01:15:54,680 --> 01:16:00,640
thing. Like they killed them all was, was Discord because the servers are free.

912
01:16:00,640 --> 01:16:08,760
So. But you know what you do know?

913
01:16:08,760 --> 01:16:16,680
How to send a merch message. But if you don't know, don't send a Twitch bit, don't send a Super Chat.

914
01:16:16,680 --> 01:16:21,400
If you want to interact with the show like this, like Tara O down here, all you had to

915
01:16:21,400 --> 01:16:27,480
do is send a merch message. Go to LTTstore.com, throw something in your cart, we'll have a couple of suggestions for

916
01:16:27,480 --> 01:16:33,120
you in a minute. We've got some stuff to talk about. Throw something in your cart and you'll be prompted to send a merch message.

917
01:16:33,120 --> 01:16:40,440
You'll get a reply from Dan, okay, which may or may not be useful, depending on what

918
01:16:40,440 --> 01:16:46,320
kind of a mood he's having. It was warranted, they're always warranted.

919
01:16:46,320 --> 01:16:49,760
Or he'll forward it internally, or he will curate it for me and Luke.

920
01:16:49,760 --> 01:16:53,840
So we'll show you guys how some curated merch messages might look.

921
01:16:53,840 --> 01:16:57,760
And then we'll give you guys kind of the update for what's going on on the store.

922
01:16:57,760 --> 01:17:00,760
Hit me, Dan. Sure thing.

923
01:17:00,760 --> 01:17:05,000
Let's see what we've got here. Hello, Dan, Luke, and random beardless blonde dude.

924
01:17:05,000 --> 01:17:09,080
Linus, if when you retire from YouTube would you still do the WAN Show?

925
01:17:09,080 --> 01:17:14,000
You guys are a big part of my weekly routine, I would hate to see you go.

926
01:17:14,000 --> 01:17:19,920
Don't freak out. But Luke and I have had this conversation very recently.

927
01:17:19,920 --> 01:17:28,840
And I think we more or less agreed on, yeah, the show must go on, the WAN Show specifically.

928
01:17:28,840 --> 01:17:34,280
I mean, it's one of those things where it's kind of a no-brainer because there's no

929
01:17:34,280 --> 01:17:40,240
way that Luke and I are going to stop reading tech news.

930
01:17:40,240 --> 01:17:46,520
It's not really that much work for us to take the Discord chats that we might have throughout

931
01:17:46,520 --> 01:17:50,400
the week and just not do that.

932
01:17:50,400 --> 01:17:55,040
And then point a camera at, you know, when we get together and chat.

933
01:17:55,040 --> 01:18:00,040
It's in a time slot that doesn't really interfere with people who don't have a life.

934
01:18:00,040 --> 01:18:05,840
As lame as that is, yeah. It has very rarely been a problem for me.

935
01:18:05,840 --> 01:18:10,440
Yeah. There's that Katy Perry song. No idea what she's talking about.

936
01:18:10,440 --> 01:18:17,360
Yeah, we sat at a table top. Yeah, we talked about some tech.

937
01:18:17,360 --> 01:18:21,440
Oh, my goodness.

938
01:18:21,440 --> 01:18:27,720
And to be clear, we still got a mission, right?

939
01:18:27,720 --> 01:18:32,880
Having Luke taking a close look at what's going on with the Labs has been really refreshing.

940
01:18:32,880 --> 01:18:37,760
It's really exciting because we've got a lot of work to do.

941
01:18:37,760 --> 01:18:44,240
Looking at the path forward for the channels, the various channels here, it's been really

942
01:18:44,240 --> 01:18:47,560
nice to see LTT on the upswing again.

943
01:18:47,560 --> 01:18:54,320
And this is in spite of how difficult it is to make tech interesting.

944
01:18:54,320 --> 01:18:59,000
But damn it, that's what we do. That's what we do. You guys are figuring it out.

945
01:18:59,000 --> 01:19:02,960
There's been some real bangers. That's what we do really, really well.

946
01:19:02,960 --> 01:19:07,040
We've got a great team. The sentiment around scrapyard wars is insane.

947
01:19:07,040 --> 01:19:14,080
Yeah, that was a lot of fun. Things are getting to the point where you can kind of get into things affordably again,

948
01:19:14,080 --> 01:19:18,520
maybe a little bit, as long as you've got a little bit of, you know, scrapyard war spirit

949
01:19:18,520 --> 01:19:23,440
and you're willing to get in there and learn some stuff, which is, dang it, that's our

950
01:19:23,440 --> 01:19:28,680
wheelhouse, right? So, man, I'm excited.

951
01:19:28,680 --> 01:19:36,080
I'm actually optimistic more so than I've been in a while to be perfectly honest with

952
01:19:36,080 --> 01:19:43,480
you guys, right? Like, if you look at how the last 365 days have gone for the channel, you know, we were

953
01:19:43,480 --> 01:19:47,320
in a pretty rough state last September.

954
01:19:47,320 --> 01:19:51,120
It wasn't good. And you know, we'd have a banger or two here.

955
01:19:51,120 --> 01:19:57,200
We'd have a couple good uploads. And then it's been this kind of this pattern of like, yeah, we like recover for a bit.

956
01:19:57,200 --> 01:20:03,320
And then it's like, it's like we've been swimming against the current for a long, long time.

957
01:20:03,320 --> 01:20:10,040
But then you look at what happens here in July, and I mean, even this low point here

958
01:20:10,040 --> 01:20:18,880
is not nearly what we were looking at back there, right? So you look at this low point in July and you go kind of like, oh, things are on the

959
01:20:18,880 --> 01:20:23,120
up and up, you know, finally, we're pulling it together.

960
01:20:23,120 --> 01:20:26,120
We're figuring out, you know, what is the new meta?

961
01:20:26,120 --> 01:20:29,340
What are people looking for?

962
01:20:29,340 --> 01:20:34,300
What is the mix that we need of reviews of things that people need to know about?

963
01:20:34,300 --> 01:20:43,500
Like, you know, Snapdragon X or like, okay, yeah, here's one that didn't perform particularly

964
01:20:43,500 --> 01:20:50,460
well, AMD's new mobile chips versus, you know, what are the what are the content styles that

965
01:20:50,460 --> 01:20:57,900
are going to appeal more broadly? Like this one, this one's a really good example where it didn't necessarily start out doing

966
01:20:57,900 --> 01:21:03,140
too great. Honestly, like if you look, it's at the low end of what are of what are typical ranges

967
01:21:03,140 --> 01:21:09,780
for video performance. And it just keeps going up, but we figured out how to do this more often, how to find

968
01:21:09,780 --> 01:21:15,540
stuff that achieves, I call this like escape velocity, right, where where we're finding

969
01:21:15,540 --> 01:21:22,180
ways to make content that appeals algorithmically to the YouTube audience in a way that we were

970
01:21:22,180 --> 01:21:28,420
struggling with for a while. So I'm, I'm actually, I'm really optimistic because we're going to be able to do that

971
01:21:28,420 --> 01:21:33,700
better with more foundational testing, and we're going to be able to afford to build

972
01:21:33,700 --> 01:21:38,820
foundational testing as long as we can continue to do that better as we go.

973
01:21:38,820 --> 01:21:44,140
And you know, sometimes the content that we're uploading these days has been a little controversial.

974
01:21:44,140 --> 01:21:48,700
I mean, that stock Android one definitely ruffled some feathers, but I don't think my

975
01:21:48,700 --> 01:21:52,860
thing has ever been having the same opinion as everybody else.

976
01:21:52,940 --> 01:21:59,820
No, and I'm, I've been tired of that for, I feel like it's been like two or maybe even

977
01:21:59,820 --> 01:22:05,300
three years where for some reason, people in the tech space have been obsessed with

978
01:22:05,300 --> 01:22:09,740
all the reviewers saying the same thing. And if they don't, it's like a huge problem.

979
01:22:09,740 --> 01:22:12,980
That's just rough. I'm not going to do it.

980
01:22:12,980 --> 01:22:16,020
No, good. Like, yeah, that's not good.

981
01:22:16,020 --> 01:22:21,780
And you know what the funny thing is in time, a lot of the time the discourse kind of comes

982
01:22:21,820 --> 01:22:31,100
around to my position. Do you remember what a firestorm it set off when I said that ad block was piracy?

983
01:22:31,100 --> 01:22:34,820
Is that coming around? Yeah. Really? Oh, yeah.

984
01:22:34,820 --> 01:22:42,500
It's dude, watching the, when I said that, it was like, it was like I had dropped a nuclear

985
01:22:42,500 --> 01:22:49,260
bomb on my career, essentially. Like you wouldn't believe how, and some people are still super mad about it.

986
01:22:49,260 --> 01:22:54,340
It's weird when I see the community wholeheartedly embrace piracy and then you say this one thing

987
01:22:54,340 --> 01:22:58,340
is piracy and they're like, no, it isn't. It's like, wait, what?

988
01:22:58,340 --> 01:23:01,420
I never said don't do it. I never said don't be able to sleep at night.

989
01:23:01,420 --> 01:23:05,420
Are you all trading Linux ISOs on your Plex servers? What are you even talking about?

990
01:23:05,420 --> 01:23:08,540
Like we meme on this stuff all the time. Yeah. Relax, bro.

991
01:23:08,540 --> 01:23:13,180
Yeah. And it's the same thing. It's the same thing with warranty gate.

992
01:23:13,180 --> 01:23:19,500
Yeah. All I said was it's only worth the paper it's printed on.

993
01:23:19,500 --> 01:23:27,700
The value of a warranty is solely the value of the company's willingness to fulfill it.

994
01:23:27,700 --> 01:23:31,180
I will say, I still think, OK. So I messaged it terribly.

995
01:23:31,180 --> 01:23:34,700
Yeah. I messaged it terribly.

996
01:23:34,700 --> 01:23:38,460
It was wrapped in like the worst packaging you could ever imagine.

997
01:23:38,460 --> 01:23:41,580
But the underlying, I don't disagree with the underlying statement.

998
01:23:41,580 --> 01:23:47,180
Well, you know what it was, Luke? Well, I was thinking back to a conversation that I'd actually had with another content

999
01:23:47,180 --> 01:23:50,300
creator who knows who they are.

1000
01:23:50,300 --> 01:23:55,860
I'm not going to name this content creator. Sure. But it was a conversation that I had with another content creator where I was talking

1001
01:23:55,860 --> 01:23:59,980
about what the contingency plan was in the event of mine and Yvonne's passing

1002
01:23:59,980 --> 01:24:08,780
and how the company could continue to operate. And they basically said to me, well, my company is specifically set up with a poison pill clause.

1003
01:24:08,780 --> 01:24:11,940
So the second I drop dead, everything's gone. Everyone loses their jobs.

1004
01:24:11,940 --> 01:24:16,780
The brand can't continue because it could reflect on me post-humously.

1005
01:24:16,780 --> 01:24:21,780
And no one has any warranty. And I was like, that's pretty f***ed up with sort of my response to that.

1006
01:24:21,780 --> 01:24:25,940
And this is a content creator again. They know who they are.

1007
01:24:25,940 --> 01:24:29,700
And I was like, nobody has any. OK, because they sell products.

1008
01:24:29,700 --> 01:24:33,820
You're an actual f***ing a**hole, essentially, right?

1009
01:24:33,820 --> 01:24:39,460
Because the level of narcissism on display was sort of mind-boggling to me.

1010
01:24:39,580 --> 01:24:44,180
Because of the just the whole thing or the warranties not understanding.

1011
01:24:44,180 --> 01:24:48,060
OK, all of it. The fact that everyone is just like instantly out of a job because

1012
01:24:48,660 --> 01:24:53,140
because this thing couldn't possibly be good without you.

1013
01:24:53,700 --> 01:24:56,780
Like, do you have do you have any concerns?

1014
01:24:56,780 --> 01:25:05,580
Does it smell bad living inside your own rectum? Like, honestly, though, do you have is that a concern for you at all?

1015
01:25:05,580 --> 01:25:08,980
Like, and I know you're mad at this thing. Hold on, hold on.

1016
01:25:08,980 --> 01:25:12,700
So that was where I was coming from when I said that super weird thing

1017
01:25:13,180 --> 01:25:18,620
about how whatever we put together should be something that can outlast

1018
01:25:18,620 --> 01:25:21,740
because I remember whatever it should be something that is structured

1019
01:25:21,740 --> 01:25:26,940
correctly, such that it could be maintained in the event that it wasn't

1020
01:25:26,940 --> 01:25:30,540
just down to me saying, trust me, bro, and making sure that

1021
01:25:30,940 --> 01:25:34,500
whether it makes financial sense or not, we just take care of it.

1022
01:25:35,100 --> 01:25:41,700
That was what I said. But it was super weird the way that I explained it.

1023
01:25:41,980 --> 01:25:45,620
And it got twisted by people who know who they are.

1024
01:25:46,860 --> 01:25:51,060
And I think you probably should have just wrote down a warranty anyways.

1025
01:25:51,060 --> 01:25:56,020
But well, probably. But we also hadn't not written one down. The product wasn't launched yet.

1026
01:25:56,020 --> 01:25:59,100
The product wasn't launched. That was the craziest thing for me.

1027
01:25:59,220 --> 01:26:06,260
I said it's like one. I think it was it was it was kind of weird, like refusing to write one.

1028
01:26:06,340 --> 01:26:10,180
Look, but then it was also really weird how much feedback there was

1029
01:26:10,180 --> 01:26:15,860
when the thing wasn't even out. We had the integrity to not take people's money to what?

1030
01:26:15,860 --> 01:26:20,380
OK, here's a counter. No, we could have pre sold the crap out of those products.

1031
01:26:20,740 --> 01:26:24,180
OK, we wouldn't take people's money because we didn't want them to have

1032
01:26:24,180 --> 01:26:28,020
uncertainty about it because we wanted them to have third party feedback

1033
01:26:28,020 --> 01:26:32,180
on it before we were willing to take their money. Luke, did we do the pop up before the warranty?

1034
01:26:33,180 --> 01:26:35,580
No, I don't remember. No, we didn't. OK.

1035
01:26:36,500 --> 01:26:39,140
I thought we did. I don't remember. No. OK.

1036
01:26:40,380 --> 01:26:44,660
The whole thing was absolutely unhinged.

1037
01:26:46,780 --> 01:26:51,140
And it's really funny now because in every conversation around people

1038
01:26:51,140 --> 01:26:54,180
like talking about our customer service, you see people that are like,

1039
01:26:55,580 --> 01:27:02,900
like Linus said, like, yeah, I saw one recently. It was some of the zipper, like peeled off a backpack or something.

1040
01:27:03,020 --> 01:27:06,180
Yeah. Oh, my goodness.

1041
01:27:06,260 --> 01:27:12,340
And like, I definitely have thoughts about that. Like, from a sustainability standpoint, I would rather see people

1042
01:27:12,340 --> 01:27:16,700
like go get that patch and I'd rather give people like a small,

1043
01:27:16,740 --> 01:27:20,380
you know, credit for that or something than send a whole new backpack.

1044
01:27:20,780 --> 01:27:26,580
But we stand behind the product and I believe that person was offered a new backpack.

1045
01:27:28,020 --> 01:27:32,620
Would that be a cool option? There's a there's a lot of work some way.

1046
01:27:32,620 --> 01:27:35,900
There's a lot of work involved because. Yeah, really difficult.

1047
01:27:35,900 --> 01:27:39,180
Yeah, like, it's not like we're it's not like we're a huge multinational brand

1048
01:27:39,180 --> 01:27:42,380
and we can have like a backpack service center in every major city or whatever.

1049
01:27:42,380 --> 01:27:45,500
But yeah, I mean, there's definitely.

1050
01:27:46,540 --> 01:27:51,260
There's definitely, you know, things about that that I personally I personally

1051
01:27:51,260 --> 01:27:53,340
I wouldn't submit a warranty request for that.

1052
01:27:54,260 --> 01:27:59,500
But. Personally, I I would stand behind our product.

1053
01:28:00,340 --> 01:28:03,060
Right. So sorry, I was looking at.

1054
01:28:03,420 --> 01:28:06,740
Yeah, give me one second. Sorry.

1055
01:28:07,940 --> 01:28:11,380
Yeah, this is clean. I was looking at the subreddit.

1056
01:28:16,140 --> 01:28:17,980
Someone posted that during the show.

1057
01:28:28,260 --> 01:28:32,140
Oh, man, sometimes going through the reddit is a terrifying experience

1058
01:28:32,180 --> 01:28:36,060
and sometimes it's just hilarious that people got some screenshot.

1059
01:28:36,060 --> 01:28:41,420
I think it was from Scrappyard Wars or something. And they they remade the like Drake meme where it's like, no.

1060
01:28:41,420 --> 01:28:45,340
We're like, yeah, that's so funny. I've been enjoying those.

1061
01:28:45,340 --> 01:28:49,860
I don't know. It's great. Ski of ghosts asks, what about those who were unable to claim back

1062
01:28:49,860 --> 01:28:53,140
the twenty five dollars you promised only on buying a single new product?

1063
01:28:53,500 --> 01:29:00,980
We offered them a full refund. At the end of the day, my liability to you is absolutely

1064
01:29:01,580 --> 01:29:07,780
not more than the cost you spent on the product. If you weren't happy with the twenty five dollar credit.

1065
01:29:09,940 --> 01:29:15,980
We offered a refund. That's it. At that point, we have done all that we can do.

1066
01:29:15,980 --> 01:29:22,260
I'm not going to give you a back massage. Like I said, I said, I said, trust me, bro, not take advantage of me, bro.

1067
01:29:22,700 --> 01:29:25,500
Yeah. Oh, that's only said to me.

1068
01:29:26,500 --> 01:29:31,100
I'm not on the show.

1069
01:29:33,220 --> 01:29:35,700
We've talked about this.

1070
01:29:39,740 --> 01:29:45,180
Anyways, what about front massage says that's a nice hat?

1071
01:29:47,540 --> 01:29:52,220
Oh, man. Should we go through our announcements? We've got. Yeah, yeah, we've got.

1072
01:29:52,220 --> 01:29:56,420
Wait, well, no, we're supposed to do a couple of merch messages. We did we did one message.

1073
01:29:56,420 --> 01:30:00,220
I want to kind of change up the format a bit. If we do one message, you read all your announcements,

1074
01:30:00,220 --> 01:30:04,980
and then we'll do another one and then we'll move on. Oh, nice. Look at this guy being a producer.

1075
01:30:04,980 --> 01:30:08,180
You know, he's had the title for a long time, but that that was some

1076
01:30:08,180 --> 01:30:11,220
does produce that was some no, that was some next level producing.

1077
01:30:11,220 --> 01:30:15,900
That was he just produced the out of us. That's I feel produced.

1078
01:30:15,900 --> 01:30:19,020
We need like a logo in the corner of his webcam.

1079
01:30:19,020 --> 01:30:22,780
It's like S.S.S. Plus. I'm going to produce a resignation.

1080
01:30:22,780 --> 01:30:26,580
No, I don't accept it. He just said we're doing Wancho forever.

1081
01:30:26,580 --> 01:30:30,580
Yes, so like you're stuck. Yeah, well, we wouldn't be working together.

1082
01:30:30,580 --> 01:30:33,500
Technically, we would still be doing Wancho the street.

1083
01:30:35,220 --> 01:30:39,860
Dude, this street is going to be longer than my underwear. OK, the street can never.

1084
01:30:42,940 --> 01:30:44,820
You still wear underwear. It smells better, too.

1085
01:30:48,300 --> 01:30:51,100
My goodness. Wow, man.

1086
01:30:53,180 --> 01:30:58,060
Now it's my right, right, right. So we've got some announcements speaking of pop ups.

1087
01:30:58,060 --> 01:31:01,780
Yeah, we're hosting a pop up event speaking of not being willing to take

1088
01:31:01,780 --> 01:31:06,420
people's money for unproven products, although honestly, our engineering team

1089
01:31:06,420 --> 01:31:09,700
and our fashion team are getting good enough that I I might be willing to start

1090
01:31:09,700 --> 01:31:15,460
relaxing that now. Probably fine. I think it's time for us to just treat our our product design capabilities

1091
01:31:15,460 --> 01:31:18,500
as like we're actually like pretty good at this at this point.

1092
01:31:18,500 --> 01:31:21,540
Anyway, I do agree. But the pop ups are also kind of fun.

1093
01:31:21,540 --> 01:31:26,460
Pop ups are kind of fun. So so we're doing another pop up makes sense sometimes on Saturday, September

1094
01:31:26,460 --> 01:31:30,820
7th, we are going to be doing a pop up where we will be launching

1095
01:31:30,820 --> 01:31:35,660
slash making available our brand new LTT precision multi bit screwdriver

1096
01:31:35,660 --> 01:31:42,580
and bit kit. And if you come to the pop up, you'll be able to purchase one of 500 numbered

1097
01:31:42,580 --> 01:31:45,660
precision screwdrivers as well.

1098
01:31:45,660 --> 01:31:50,180
Are they numbered on them or where's the number? It's a lasered onto them.

1099
01:31:50,220 --> 01:31:55,380
Well, not these ones, because these aren't part of it. It can't be numbered if you have extra ones to show on the WAN Show.

1100
01:31:55,380 --> 01:31:58,540
Totally. When we number something, we number it.

1101
01:31:58,540 --> 01:32:02,500
Actually, oh man. OK, sorry. I'm in this derailment.

1102
01:32:02,500 --> 01:32:06,460
Luke and I, Luke and I, Nick and I had a conversation recently.

1103
01:32:06,460 --> 01:32:10,820
We found a bunch of those Lambo beanies.

1104
01:32:10,820 --> 01:32:17,060
Do you remember the 69 only Lambo beanies?

1105
01:32:17,060 --> 01:32:22,700
And I didn't know what to do. We found apparently for minimum order quantity purposes, we ordered more than

1106
01:32:22,700 --> 01:32:30,180
69 of them also to have warranty and et cetera, et cetera, because we said

1107
01:32:30,180 --> 01:32:35,380
we would only sell 69 of them, but I hate waste.

1108
01:32:35,380 --> 01:32:40,660
So the conversation, what Nick wanted to do was do like a promo on WAN Show

1109
01:32:40,660 --> 01:32:46,780
or something like that. And I basically was like, if we say there's only this many, there can only

1110
01:32:46,780 --> 01:32:50,780
be this many, but our options are either to what?

1111
01:32:50,780 --> 01:32:53,980
Sell them, hold on to them forever.

1112
01:32:53,980 --> 01:32:57,340
They don't want to do that. Or throw them away. And you don't want to burn them.

1113
01:32:57,340 --> 01:33:00,740
Which I don't want to do. Like the fashion company.

1114
01:33:00,740 --> 01:33:03,980
Is it OK to give them away? The chat says it's OK to give them away.

1115
01:33:03,980 --> 01:33:10,500
I think giving them away is OK. So the numbered ones can be the ones we sold, but we could still give them away.

1116
01:33:10,500 --> 01:33:14,060
Is that OK? Gauntlet Wizard said give them away in a promo.

1117
01:33:14,060 --> 01:33:18,380
That I don't necessarily know. It would have to be a genuine giveaway.

1118
01:33:18,380 --> 01:33:22,540
So we can we can profit from more than just money.

1119
01:33:22,540 --> 01:33:27,380
Like that's something that you guys got to consider. Just because I turn off the AdSense on my video, for example,

1120
01:33:27,380 --> 01:33:30,940
that doesn't mean that I didn't benefit. That I didn't profit.

1121
01:33:30,940 --> 01:33:35,220
That there isn't that there isn't a net benefit to me of uploading that video.

1122
01:33:35,220 --> 01:33:39,220
Let's say if it's something that's going to get a lot of views. It's it's not that black and white.

1123
01:33:39,220 --> 01:33:45,420
The world is about more than just money, right? So if I use it for a promo, I am absolutely profiting,

1124
01:33:45,420 --> 01:33:47,860
even if it's not directly financially.

1125
01:33:50,180 --> 01:33:54,780
Most people seem to think it's pretty cool to give them away.

1126
01:33:56,260 --> 01:34:00,300
So how many are there? It's like 40 or something.

1127
01:34:00,300 --> 01:34:03,380
Like I like maybe we had to order a couple hundred or I don't know,

1128
01:34:03,380 --> 01:34:07,060
or like 150, I don't know exactly them. Don't don't quote me on the number.

1129
01:34:07,060 --> 01:34:13,260
It's less. It's way less than a thousand. It's more than 10. Let me ask the audience this because I feel like they're the most likely

1130
01:34:13,260 --> 01:34:18,140
to lean in one direction, but I feel one thing that I suspect

1131
01:34:18,140 --> 01:34:22,740
will be opposite to the audience. So I want to check with them just to counter my bias.

1132
01:34:25,300 --> 01:34:28,420
Is it better to give it away internally or externally?

1133
01:34:29,380 --> 01:34:33,940
Because if you give it away externally, then you're not selling it. You're there's actually a lot less benefit.

1134
01:34:33,940 --> 01:34:37,460
I think we should give it away externally then, but it's not always easy.

1135
01:34:37,460 --> 01:34:44,220
Giving stuff away is not always easy. Like people don't need the whole fast fashion movement.

1136
01:34:44,220 --> 01:34:47,220
Chats mostly saying internally.

1137
01:34:48,220 --> 01:34:52,500
It's kind of both sides. Yeah, that's a company benefit. That's a perk now that we've provided.

1138
01:34:52,500 --> 01:34:56,500
So in terms of like, are we getting something out of it? We actually kind of are.

1139
01:34:56,500 --> 01:35:00,300
Yeah, whereas if we give it away externally and do it quietly

1140
01:35:00,300 --> 01:35:04,540
so that nobody knows about it, then it's the least benefit to the company.

1141
01:35:04,900 --> 01:35:08,180
Interesting. It's a zero benefit. So this is this is really important.

1142
01:35:08,220 --> 01:35:11,660
Gauntlet Wizard says you're also profiting on any charity events by that logic.

1143
01:35:12,660 --> 01:35:17,100
Yeah, yeah. That's like the whole billionaire playbook.

1144
01:35:17,340 --> 01:35:23,340
Why do you think any of them charity anything? I made a billion dollars and suddenly I am now philanthropist.

1145
01:35:23,660 --> 01:35:27,140
That there's also like it's a whole it's a whole it's a whole rabbit hole.

1146
01:35:27,140 --> 01:35:32,340
It's not even just the reputational management of charity stuff.

1147
01:35:32,540 --> 01:35:39,900
There's a whole it's a whole thing. But that's that's that's one of the reasons we don't really talk about stuff much.

1148
01:35:41,060 --> 01:35:49,780
Although there is something that we get to talk about this week because the thing that precipitated the donation was a very public event.

1149
01:35:50,660 --> 01:35:54,100
We ended up raising twenty thousand dollars

1150
01:35:55,300 --> 01:35:58,060
on to be clear for the people for the Electronic Frontier Foundation.

1151
01:35:58,300 --> 01:36:02,460
Oh, nice. Twenty thousand dollars with that got fish shirt.

1152
01:36:02,460 --> 01:36:06,380
So thank you guys very much. That was the full profits from that shirt.

1153
01:36:06,780 --> 01:36:11,380
Very exciting. What what is what am I looking at here?

1154
01:36:11,380 --> 01:36:18,820
Is this like a oh, OK, whatever. So here's a here's a thing about the Electronic Frontier Foundation.

1155
01:36:18,820 --> 01:36:21,820
There you go. You can learn about them there. Cool. I'll pause the video or whatever.

1156
01:36:21,820 --> 01:36:27,140
So that that's pretty exciting. But yeah, that's that's the only way to do it is to donate something

1157
01:36:27,140 --> 01:36:29,500
and not talk about it at all.

1158
01:36:30,500 --> 01:36:34,260
And to be clear, that doesn't mean that creators doing charity streams

1159
01:36:34,260 --> 01:36:37,700
and stuff like that are like bad or like specifically doing it for profit.

1160
01:36:37,700 --> 01:36:41,940
But there is a benefit to it. It's not it's not benefitless.

1161
01:36:41,940 --> 01:36:47,900
It's it's less beneficial than them just doing like a a subathon

1162
01:36:47,900 --> 01:36:51,220
or a donate to me drive in of some form.

1163
01:36:52,100 --> 01:36:55,860
They are still giving that money to charity. Charity is still benefiting from it, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.

1164
01:36:55,860 --> 01:37:01,860
But it's not benefitless. Navy MT says, can you donate it to to a developing country?

1165
01:37:02,380 --> 01:37:06,940
Actually, that whole thing is a big problem. So back to what I was saying about fast fashion,

1166
01:37:06,940 --> 01:37:10,180
there is now an excess of secondhand clothing

1167
01:37:10,420 --> 01:37:13,860
because people just buy stuff, wear it a couple of times, and it's so cheap.

1168
01:37:13,860 --> 01:37:20,460
They just, oh, yeah, well, I'll donate it. And then like, I don't have to feel bad about the massive

1169
01:37:20,980 --> 01:37:25,340
amount of raw materials and labor that goes into these products

1170
01:37:25,340 --> 01:37:28,340
that I'm consuming and then using a couple of times.

1171
01:37:28,620 --> 01:37:32,260
Like we I feel like there's been a huge mentality shift.

1172
01:37:32,260 --> 01:37:35,420
Like when people would talk about people would talk about

1173
01:37:35,620 --> 01:37:41,100
never wearing the same pair of underwear as like a completely unhinged

1174
01:37:41,380 --> 01:37:45,100
out of touch, you know, behavior, we would laugh about it and joke about it.

1175
01:37:45,340 --> 01:37:49,700
But but now it really does seem like people will will wear a shirt

1176
01:37:49,700 --> 01:37:52,900
a few times and be like out of style now.

1177
01:37:53,220 --> 01:37:56,580
I'll just pick up something new on Team U or it's so cheap

1178
01:37:56,580 --> 01:38:01,900
and manufactured so poorly that it might be like somewhat destroyed by the third wear.

1179
01:38:03,020 --> 01:38:06,180
The logo is all racked or not logo,

1180
01:38:06,180 --> 01:38:11,180
but the thing on it is all racked or whatever else. And so back to donating to other countries.

1181
01:38:11,620 --> 01:38:14,620
It's actually not necessarily a net benefit,

1182
01:38:14,620 --> 01:38:18,700
because what it can do is it can destroy the local market for those products,

1183
01:38:19,020 --> 01:38:25,700
destroying the companies that produce them, making them forever dependent, creating this cycle of dependency

1184
01:38:25,980 --> 01:38:30,140
on like Team U garbage that gets shipped across one ocean,

1185
01:38:30,380 --> 01:38:33,740
worn a couple of times and then handled a bunch of times

1186
01:38:33,740 --> 01:38:39,180
and then shipped across another freaking ocean. Like the whole thing is so so inefficient.

1187
01:38:41,900 --> 01:38:47,660
I'm not saying we won't donate them. If anything, I think that's clearly the position I'm advocating for here

1188
01:38:47,660 --> 01:38:49,940
is that we we give them away externally.

1189
01:38:50,700 --> 01:38:54,540
But what I am saying is that it's not that black and white. It ain't that simple.

1190
01:38:54,540 --> 01:38:57,860
Yeah. Yep.

1191
01:39:00,300 --> 01:39:04,500
Yeah, four com five says, go feed your local ducks, then stop.

1192
01:39:05,460 --> 01:39:07,180
The thing that happens next isn't nice.

1193
01:39:08,860 --> 01:39:11,260
OK, let's go back to talking about our pop up shop, shall we?

1194
01:39:11,940 --> 01:39:15,260
Linus Cam, here it is. How did we?

1195
01:39:15,860 --> 01:39:21,020
Don't worry about it. OK. So we'll have some other popular items from LTT Store.com,

1196
01:39:21,020 --> 01:39:25,660
including our recently launched offsite laptop bag and

1197
01:39:27,220 --> 01:39:33,220
should we talk about the product a little bit? Are we are we going to talk about this at all? So there's a few things that make the new precision driver really exciting.

1198
01:39:33,220 --> 01:39:37,180
You guys can sign up for a notification. We're going to have that link down below right down.

1199
01:39:37,180 --> 01:39:40,780
People can get a notification. Yeah, I believe it's down there. I will double check them.

1200
01:39:40,780 --> 01:39:45,620
So there's a few things that I really love about this kit. Number one is the driver itself.

1201
01:39:46,500 --> 01:39:51,540
Super, super high quality machined aluminum. Nice, strong magnet in the end.

1202
01:39:51,620 --> 01:39:56,460
That's just kind of going to be if we're going to have a staple for our screwdriver products, that's going to be it.

1203
01:39:56,700 --> 01:40:02,860
We've got in handle bit storage. I can hold three of our precision bits, which use the standard shank size

1204
01:40:03,100 --> 01:40:06,540
and are actually the standard length. But with a twist, I'll talk about that in a minute.

1205
01:40:06,540 --> 01:40:09,740
Speaking of twisting, it's got a high quality bearing on the top

1206
01:40:10,060 --> 01:40:13,180
that will spin for anywhere from, let's say, you know what?

1207
01:40:13,180 --> 01:40:17,940
I don't want to promise too much. Let's say anywhere from 20 seconds to we've had them spinning

1208
01:40:17,940 --> 01:40:21,940
for darn near a minute, depending on how you get them going.

1209
01:40:21,940 --> 01:40:26,740
It's going to be. Yeah, there's a lot of there's a bit of finesse to it. There's there's some variants in the bearings.

1210
01:40:26,740 --> 01:40:31,580
There's a lot of stuff going on. We're going to have accessories, including different tops.

1211
01:40:31,620 --> 01:40:36,740
So you can have a concave top if you like the finger hold. We're going to have a convex top if you like to palm it.

1212
01:40:36,940 --> 01:40:40,660
And then by default, it's going to ship with the flat top, but you'll be able to get top kits.

1213
01:40:40,660 --> 01:40:43,700
And who knows what kinds of tops we might have available

1214
01:40:43,740 --> 01:40:48,820
for it in the future. That's the driver itself. Then there's the kit.

1215
01:40:49,780 --> 01:40:54,180
Super high quality case comes with a detachable top that you can use as a parts

1216
01:40:54,180 --> 01:40:58,740
tray includes a sheet magnet inside, along with little organizer spaces

1217
01:40:58,740 --> 01:41:02,700
for the stuff that you're taking out of it. There you go. There's one of our bits in there.

1218
01:41:02,980 --> 01:41:07,140
And OK, that is probably the worst bit you could have possibly put

1219
01:41:07,140 --> 01:41:13,060
on to there for my next point. Our bits are also pretty exciting, even though they are the same length

1220
01:41:13,260 --> 01:41:17,620
that you would find from, well, let's say, you know, other bit

1221
01:41:18,700 --> 01:41:26,020
other bit manufacturers that we respect a lot. One of the things that we changed was the depth of the

1222
01:41:28,140 --> 01:41:32,420
the the hex portion. So you can see it drops into our driver there.

1223
01:41:32,660 --> 01:41:36,100
And she's a little she's a little longer in the skinny part.

1224
01:41:36,380 --> 01:41:39,660
One of the issues that I've had with many of the precision drivers

1225
01:41:39,700 --> 01:41:42,700
that I've used in the past is that they aren't deep enough to reach

1226
01:41:42,700 --> 01:41:48,940
into, in some cases, like almost anything, depending on the bits.

1227
01:41:49,220 --> 01:41:53,060
So we're really excited for these to be not super deep.

1228
01:41:53,060 --> 01:41:57,740
I mean, they're still not a fixed shaft screwdriver. You know, you're going to need a fixed shaft screwdriver sometimes

1229
01:41:57,740 --> 01:42:04,940
and we're working on solutions for that. But they are a little bit deeper, making the multi bit a little bit more usable.

1230
01:42:05,780 --> 01:42:09,580
And I guess that's all I have to say about that.

1231
01:42:09,580 --> 01:42:15,660
Is there any other like major points that I missed here? Anodized aluminum end cap is interchangeable hybrid

1232
01:42:15,660 --> 01:42:20,380
sinette ceramic hybrid bearing incredibly strong magnet.

1233
01:42:20,380 --> 01:42:24,460
Yeah. Yeah. Oh, oh, yeah. Right. The driver will be available by itself.

1234
01:42:24,460 --> 01:42:28,060
If you already have an iFixit kit, we love iFixit.

1235
01:42:28,060 --> 01:42:33,060
They're a great partner. We love their mission. We're not we're not trying to replace iFixit.

1236
01:42:33,060 --> 01:42:38,820
We certainly never will. I was just going to say, no, like all the replacement parts, all the guides.

1237
01:42:38,820 --> 01:42:41,820
But we were real passionate about screwdrivers.

1238
01:42:41,820 --> 01:42:47,780
Really high end tools. And we really love this thing. Comes with 61 different bits, standard Phillips, specialized

1239
01:42:47,780 --> 01:42:54,540
bits for game consoles, all kinds of different ones. And I think that's pretty much all I have to say about that for right now.

1240
01:42:54,860 --> 01:43:01,460
So I said, what time is the pop up? Oh, right. OK, so it'll be next Saturday, September 7th from 10 a.m.

1241
01:43:01,460 --> 01:43:05,220
to 2 p.m. at the Linus Media Group Studio in Surrey.

1242
01:43:05,220 --> 01:43:10,820
Wait, is that the studio or the lab? Yeah, I was told studio. Studio. OK, so it'll be at the studio.

1243
01:43:10,820 --> 01:43:14,020
Now, this might be kind of exciting or whatever.

1244
01:43:14,820 --> 01:43:17,860
But do not travel far for this event.

1245
01:43:17,860 --> 01:43:22,300
Why we didn't give you very much notice. This will not be like LTX or Whalen.

1246
01:43:23,100 --> 01:43:25,740
We will have some testing stations for you to like try out the product.

1247
01:43:26,780 --> 01:43:30,500
You'll have you'll have an opportunity to talk to some of our design

1248
01:43:30,500 --> 01:43:33,180
and engineering folks about how we develop our tools and products.

1249
01:43:33,860 --> 01:43:37,940
There might be a few other things, but don't don't travel.

1250
01:43:37,940 --> 01:43:41,220
We literally don't have enough capacity for a ton of people to be here.

1251
01:43:41,580 --> 01:43:44,780
And everyone's just going to have a bad time if people are trekking

1252
01:43:44,780 --> 01:43:48,220
out here from like wherever a stand, so please don't.

1253
01:43:49,780 --> 01:43:53,100
Yeah. OK. Cool.

1254
01:43:53,540 --> 01:43:59,580
Oh, right. There's a couple of other things for the store. Scribe drivers, the pen are now available to order again.

1255
01:44:00,100 --> 01:44:03,100
If you missed out on the last two drops or you're looking to buy more,

1256
01:44:03,100 --> 01:44:06,780
you can secure yours on backorder at LMG.GG slash pen.

1257
01:44:07,500 --> 01:44:12,460
So that's a good candidate if you guys want to send a merge message today. I still haven't even been able to get one.

1258
01:44:12,460 --> 01:44:19,100
You don't have one yet? No. Oh, get wrecked, scrub. I tried to buy them in the last wave and I couldn't get it fast enough.

1259
01:44:22,060 --> 01:44:25,980
I want to like. Do you want me to put a request in for you? No, it's fine. It's fine.

1260
01:44:25,980 --> 01:44:30,300
Well, OK, this is not a rule, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.

1261
01:44:30,620 --> 01:44:34,780
I don't like putting in merge requests when customers can't get them.

1262
01:44:35,180 --> 01:44:41,220
So if the thing is perpetually sold out, it's very noble of you. Plouffe literally took a small break

1263
01:44:41,220 --> 01:44:45,260
from the shoot that we were doing together, sat on his laptop, ordered one

1264
01:44:45,260 --> 01:44:50,140
and then came back and I was like, what were you doing? He's like ordering a scribe driver. I was like, really?

1265
01:44:50,540 --> 01:44:54,780
Yeah, so I want it to like

1266
01:44:55,780 --> 01:44:59,620
be able to exist on the store for more than, you know, a couple days.

1267
01:44:59,620 --> 01:45:03,140
And then I'll try to get one. I mean, you got keys in your head of Instructure.

1268
01:45:03,140 --> 01:45:08,300
You could just turn off the cameras in 107 and just go go grab a handful.

1269
01:45:11,500 --> 01:45:15,860
That's really smart. You can't joke about that. That's really smart. You can't even joke about that.

1270
01:45:15,860 --> 01:45:20,180
It's just he's a smart guy. Yeah, it's not like there's like massive amounts of logs

1271
01:45:20,180 --> 01:45:24,020
and all of us get emails all the time. If anybody would try to do something like that.

1272
01:45:24,020 --> 01:45:26,540
Yeah, it would be pretty obvious. Yeah.

1273
01:45:28,020 --> 01:45:32,780
OK, last couple things. People in full-blank channel, like, grab me one.

1274
01:45:35,180 --> 01:45:38,380
I mean, you could just do it without. I got you, fam.

1275
01:45:38,380 --> 01:45:45,100
Oh, man. Last announcement is we are resuming our sponsor partnership with ASUS.

1276
01:45:45,820 --> 01:45:49,940
We stopped working with them on January 5th of this year due to issues

1277
01:45:49,940 --> 01:45:54,580
that we were seeing through our community feedback team or through

1278
01:45:54,580 --> 01:45:56,860
our community feedback mechanisms on the forum.

1279
01:45:58,020 --> 01:46:01,540
I got, oh, oh, look at this ASUS timeline. What is this?

1280
01:46:02,700 --> 01:46:05,260
Oh, wow. Colton put together a little document for me.

1281
01:46:06,060 --> 01:46:10,460
So in 2022, late 2022, we saw the first ASUS complaints on the forum

1282
01:46:10,860 --> 01:46:14,380
and second quarter of 2023.

1283
01:46:14,620 --> 01:46:18,020
We saw a detailed post about someone having issues with ASUS support

1284
01:46:19,220 --> 01:46:24,460
followed shortly by some more issues and an influx of complaints regarding ASUS

1285
01:46:24,460 --> 01:46:28,940
like GPU mobos with display issues in early May of that year.

1286
01:46:28,940 --> 01:46:34,540
We told ASUS that if we didn't see improvements or if they didn't do anything to address complaints, we'd have to consider pausing partnership.

1287
01:46:35,340 --> 01:46:40,340
So that was within a month of this sort of influx of complaints.

1288
01:46:40,700 --> 01:46:50,340
In May of 2020, what year are we in 2023 on the WAN Show, I said that ASUS was in the doghouse

1289
01:46:50,340 --> 01:46:54,180
and that we were in talks about shoring up customer support with them.

1290
01:46:55,140 --> 01:46:58,340
There's also a call to action in the segment, encouraging people to go to the forum

1291
01:46:58,340 --> 01:47:05,540
with their complaints. In August, we, let's see, hold on.

1292
01:47:07,380 --> 01:47:13,060
We reiterate, we're showing the complaints, the process takes time. Oh, yeah. Okay. Yeah. In August, we posted regarding the large amount of complaints

1293
01:47:13,060 --> 01:47:17,780
that we'd been receiving since early May. We reiterate we're sharing the complaints in September.

1294
01:47:20,100 --> 01:47:23,860
We were told that ASUS had an action plan coming for how they wanted to change their processes.

1295
01:47:23,860 --> 01:47:30,260
We share with the forum that this is coming. In December, we went through the entire forum history and compiled a list of all

1296
01:47:30,260 --> 01:47:34,500
sponsor complaints from 34 different users and sent this to ASUS.

1297
01:47:34,500 --> 01:47:38,100
We flagged the ones that were valid complaints that needed resolutions ASAP

1298
01:47:38,820 --> 01:47:43,540
in also in December, we had a call with ASUS to go over each issue one by one and share

1299
01:47:43,540 --> 01:47:48,580
what we thought the resolutions should look like. In mid-December, we posted our weekly forum update.

1300
01:47:49,620 --> 01:47:53,460
In January, we announced that ASUS would no longer be a sponsor of LTT.

1301
01:47:54,420 --> 01:47:57,780
In March, we made a threat on the forum to assist with people needing RMAs.

1302
01:47:57,780 --> 01:48:02,260
It's still pinned. In April, we worked with ASUS to audit people's issues.

1303
01:48:02,260 --> 01:48:06,180
We realized a few were still outstanding. So this is in 2024 now.

1304
01:48:08,980 --> 01:48:12,900
In June, Colton and I actually met with ASUS's CEO.

1305
01:48:12,900 --> 01:48:15,220
I don't think we've ever addressed this publicly,

1306
01:48:16,260 --> 01:48:19,540
but we sat down directly face-to-face with their CEO.

1307
01:48:20,180 --> 01:48:26,820
I laid out what I needed to see happening with the ongoing issue with the SD card

1308
01:48:26,820 --> 01:48:32,340
in the ROG Ally. I laid out what I needed to see happen because this was around the launch of the Ally X.

1309
01:48:33,300 --> 01:48:43,300
I laid out what, philosophically, I felt was an underlying problem at ASUS.

1310
01:48:43,300 --> 01:48:49,780
I spoke to some of the issues that I could see, that I could have empathy with.

1311
01:48:50,660 --> 01:48:54,740
What I saw from speaking with him was someone who was told,

1312
01:48:54,740 --> 01:48:58,260
yes, sir, yes, sir, when things weren't getting done.

1313
01:48:58,660 --> 01:49:01,220
And I told him I can empathize with that.

1314
01:49:02,260 --> 01:49:07,220
I felt that what they needed was an improvement in upward communication,

1315
01:49:08,100 --> 01:49:13,220
an ability for people to raise these issues in a way that would make it,

1316
01:49:13,220 --> 01:49:19,700
so that he wasn't blindsided by it. Because it's one of those things where you can bash someone for what went wrong,

1317
01:49:20,260 --> 01:49:24,340
but I don't feel that that's actually the most effective way to enact change.

1318
01:49:24,340 --> 01:49:27,700
I think it's far more important to empathize with them and to try to figure out

1319
01:49:27,700 --> 01:49:31,380
what went wrong, because it was clear to me from speaking with him

1320
01:49:32,100 --> 01:49:35,620
that he didn't want ASUS to suck at all.

1321
01:49:36,820 --> 01:49:40,740
He wanted it to be great. And so I was like, okay, well, here's an issue.

1322
01:49:42,980 --> 01:49:47,300
One of the other things that I outlined as being very important was I felt that ASUS

1323
01:49:47,300 --> 01:49:51,700
still had a very 2000s mentality sometimes.

1324
01:49:52,260 --> 01:49:57,300
Fix it with a revision was something that I told him that I felt ASUS had

1325
01:49:57,380 --> 01:50:04,660
embraced for a lot of its history. And that was a big part of ASUS's success for a long time, was to move fast and break things.

1326
01:50:06,180 --> 01:50:10,420
And I was like, look, you guys are a grown-up company now.

1327
01:50:10,420 --> 01:50:18,180
And I think that's something that needs to change. He seemed extremely receptive to everything that we talked about.

1328
01:50:19,380 --> 01:50:26,020
So far, we have actually seen very little in the way of overall activity around ASUS support issues.

1329
01:50:27,940 --> 01:50:31,700
One of the ones that I saw, the person was outraged because there was a credit card hold

1330
01:50:31,700 --> 01:50:36,100
for an Advanced RMA. That's standard practice.

1331
01:50:36,100 --> 01:50:42,500
There's a credit card hold when you get an Advanced RMA. So Advanced RMA is when they send you the new product.

1332
01:50:42,500 --> 01:50:46,260
They're waiting to receive it. And then they're waiting to receive the old broken one back,

1333
01:50:46,260 --> 01:50:49,860
and then they take the hold off the credit card. That is completely normal and you need to chill.

1334
01:50:51,940 --> 01:50:58,420
In fact, offering Advanced RMA at all is really good. I love Advanced RMA because then I don't have to have downtime if something's kind of working.

1335
01:50:59,380 --> 01:51:04,340
So we felt really good about that.

1336
01:51:04,340 --> 01:51:12,420
Things seem to be going OK. And if anyone needs help finding the correct channels of support from ASUS,

1337
01:51:12,420 --> 01:51:15,780
we still do have a topic here. So you guys can check this out.

1338
01:51:16,660 --> 01:51:21,780
I'm going to post this in the Floatplane chat. Maybe Dan, if you can chuck that in some of the other chats.

1339
01:51:22,660 --> 01:51:27,780
But we think we've seen enough that we're ready to work with them again.

1340
01:51:27,780 --> 01:51:28,980
But nothing's permanent, right?

1341
01:51:31,700 --> 01:51:41,060
We have begun and ended relationships with industry giants time and time and time again.

1342
01:51:41,060 --> 01:51:45,140
I mean, NVIDIA is a hilarious one, right?

1343
01:51:45,140 --> 01:51:50,340
Because they went from working together to not working together for a long time

1344
01:51:51,300 --> 01:51:57,300
to working together extremely closely to not working together for two years.

1345
01:51:59,220 --> 01:52:02,260
Because we called them out to working together with them again.

1346
01:52:02,260 --> 01:52:12,100
We're working with them now. We don't agree with everything they do, but you're not going to get a lot done from the outside.

1347
01:52:12,100 --> 01:52:15,140
People leave, mentalities change, mentalities shift.

1348
01:52:15,140 --> 01:52:19,780
I mean, I do think that NVIDIA has a bit of a chip on their shoulder from the top down.

1349
01:52:20,340 --> 01:52:28,900
I mean, I would not criticize Jensen's business acumen.

1350
01:52:28,900 --> 01:52:32,580
When you have to ask that nice of an oven, you've got to be a shark to some degree.

1351
01:52:32,580 --> 01:52:37,300
Or as knowledge, everyone I've ever spoken to from NVIDIA is like the scariest thing about Jensen

1352
01:52:37,940 --> 01:52:41,060
is that he thinks he can do your job better than you can. And he probably can.

1353
01:52:41,060 --> 01:52:46,820
And he's right. He'll walk in in like two seconds and solve something that you've been spending a week on.

1354
01:52:47,380 --> 01:52:50,820
And it's like, that'd be terrifying.

1355
01:52:50,820 --> 01:52:57,700
You know that kind of pressure. But it's very clear that NVIDIA is out for NVIDIA first.

1356
01:52:57,700 --> 01:52:59,220
That's all we'll say about that.

1357
01:53:01,220 --> 01:53:04,660
So anyway. I've got some questions about the screwdriver really quick.

1358
01:53:05,780 --> 01:53:10,020
That is, what is the cost of things?

1359
01:53:10,020 --> 01:53:15,220
What is the cost of the screwdriver itself? What is the cost of the case with the bits and all that kind of stuff?

1360
01:53:15,220 --> 01:53:19,300
And what is the cost of the combo kit? Do we know any of that? Look at this face.

1361
01:53:19,300 --> 01:53:22,340
You don't know any of that? Does this look like a face that knows? No.

1362
01:53:22,340 --> 01:53:25,460
Okay. All right. I actually don't know. Can we figure that out?

1363
01:53:26,580 --> 01:53:30,820
Because I think it there, it's public info, isn't it? At least for the screwdriver itself?

1364
01:53:30,820 --> 01:53:34,420
It is 8.13. Everybody's gone. I'm not messaging anybody right now.

1365
01:53:34,420 --> 01:53:41,540
All right. Yeah. I could call Nick, but I don't need to call Nick for that.

1366
01:53:41,540 --> 01:53:45,380
I'm sure you will figure it out. You'll figure it out. I mean, when it's out, you'll know.

1367
01:53:45,380 --> 01:53:48,820
Yeah, exactly. Exactly. I'm not going to bother someone if it just doesn't matter that much.

1368
01:53:49,940 --> 01:53:54,260
Okay. Nick's going to call in three.

1369
01:53:54,260 --> 01:53:58,980
No, my phone might be dead actually. No, no, no. It's still got 2%. Got a lot of Teams messages.

1370
01:53:58,980 --> 01:54:02,980
Oh, no, I'm kidding. Do you want to do another merge message before we move on?

1371
01:54:02,980 --> 01:54:08,820
I think we're supposed to, right? Additional topics 10 minutes ago? Was that all the announcements?

1372
01:54:08,820 --> 01:54:12,740
There was a lot of them this week. I got to make sure that you get through them all,

1373
01:54:12,740 --> 01:54:15,540
or we get hit. We get assaulted.

1374
01:54:16,180 --> 01:54:19,220
We did the pop-up event? Yeah, yeah, we're good. We're good.

1375
01:54:19,220 --> 01:54:22,340
Okay. We got to be sure. Calm down, boys.

1376
01:54:22,340 --> 01:54:25,700
They'll beat us with sticks. They will not beat us with sticks.

1377
01:54:25,700 --> 01:54:28,500
They come out of the quarterly budget as they break us on us.

1378
01:54:29,220 --> 01:54:31,380
Oh, my God. They're going to find you, bro.

1379
01:54:35,540 --> 01:54:38,500
You didn't use up your stick budget this quarter?

1380
01:54:39,140 --> 01:54:44,340
We're going to take it out of the fiscal report. You know, if we bought higher quality sticks,

1381
01:54:44,340 --> 01:54:47,220
then they wouldn't break as much. No, you know the prices of sticks?

1382
01:54:50,820 --> 01:54:53,220
Okay, let's see. They don't grow on trees.

1383
01:54:56,500 --> 01:55:00,660
Yep, that was my entire contribution to that bit, and I ruined it.

1384
01:55:00,660 --> 01:55:05,060
I 100% ruined it. You did, too. Avon Fox branch manager.

1385
01:55:05,060 --> 01:55:12,420
Okay, let's see.

1386
01:55:12,420 --> 01:55:13,380
I can't even pick now.

1387
01:55:16,980 --> 01:55:20,900
Hello, Wancho. How did the video game auctions go? David had an impressive collection.

1388
01:55:21,460 --> 01:55:25,300
Oh, I didn't ask him. Yeah, I don't know. I meant to ask him.

1389
01:55:26,260 --> 01:55:29,380
Hopefully good. Probably good.

1390
01:55:29,380 --> 01:55:33,460
Can we see? Okay, that I'm not too bothered about just like asking someone.

1391
01:55:33,460 --> 01:55:35,940
Okay, I'll ask him. I'll ask him. I'll see if I hear back. Okay.

1392
01:55:39,540 --> 01:55:43,540
Should I do another topic? Are you just calling him? Yeah, give us one more, Dan.

1393
01:55:44,260 --> 01:55:48,180
Sure, sure, sure. Let's see.

1394
01:55:48,180 --> 01:55:52,980
What piece of tech has the best value? We've seen all the unique builds in your house,

1395
01:55:52,980 --> 01:55:54,580
but what do you value the most?

1396
01:55:56,180 --> 01:56:03,700
You value the most? Value is tough because like, okay, I was actually just talking to Avon today.

1397
01:56:03,700 --> 01:56:07,300
We were at the waterslides and she was like,

1398
01:56:07,300 --> 01:56:13,300
are you going to leave your phone at the little tent site slash blanket area?

1399
01:56:13,300 --> 01:56:18,420
I was like, yeah, I don't know. She's like, are you going to cover it up? I'm like, sure, I'll kick it under a blanket.

1400
01:56:19,460 --> 01:56:22,900
And I was telling her, I actually love having a piece of crap phone

1401
01:56:22,900 --> 01:56:26,740
that I don't have to care about. Yeah. This thing doesn't matter to me at all.

1402
01:56:28,180 --> 01:56:32,420
I value that. Oh yeah, absolutely. So like, what does value mean?

1403
01:56:32,420 --> 01:56:38,900
Because you clearly said it's not money. This is a mildly controversial part of the reason why I don't want a new car.

1404
01:56:40,420 --> 01:56:46,740
Because it's broken in. It's got the first scratch, the 10th scratch, 100th scratch.

1405
01:56:47,780 --> 01:56:51,940
If something is more scratch than car. I'll be sad if it like stops working,

1406
01:56:51,940 --> 01:56:56,180
but I'm not going to say that. It stops working, but I'll just take it to a mechanic.

1407
01:56:56,180 --> 01:56:59,620
If someone like bumps it, I don't know, I'll probably get it fixed.

1408
01:56:59,620 --> 01:57:05,220
Like, I'm not super where it's a Honda effectively. There's, I'm sure there's parts and they're probably not that expensive.

1409
01:57:05,220 --> 01:57:09,300
Yeah. Like whatever. It'll be fine. Yeah. That's a very comfortable.

1410
01:57:09,300 --> 01:57:12,660
Luke's a bad driver. I've never once been an accident in my life. Shut up.

1411
01:57:12,660 --> 01:57:17,380
No, no, that's not the point. Like a scratch from like, okay, hold on.

1412
01:57:17,380 --> 01:57:20,580
I'm going to try and think of some of the hilarious. No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

1413
01:57:20,580 --> 01:57:29,300
Yeah, lean on it. No, I'm trying to think of some of the hilarious stuff. You've had taking up the entire backseat of your car when I've gone to put my backpack in it.

1414
01:57:29,300 --> 01:57:37,620
Okay. No, no, he had a good reason. No, no, he had this computer tower that had this like machined part that Jake made him

1415
01:57:37,620 --> 01:57:40,980
in like high school or something. It was back there for weeks.

1416
01:57:40,980 --> 01:57:43,460
Months. Months.

1417
01:57:44,340 --> 01:57:49,140
There was a water leak in my storage unit in my apartment. So I effectively didn't have storage.

1418
01:57:49,140 --> 01:57:52,580
So my car just like became storage right. It's solved now. So it's gone now.

1419
01:57:52,660 --> 01:57:56,020
My car is empty now. Really? Yeah. I need a ride tonight.

1420
01:57:56,020 --> 01:57:58,180
So I'm going to find out just how empty it is. Yeah.

1421
01:57:59,060 --> 01:58:02,820
It's actually like empty. And that, my friends, is how you secure a ride home.

1422
01:58:02,820 --> 01:58:06,500
I noticed that because you had previously said you're going to Uber, but I mean, I don't mind.

1423
01:58:06,500 --> 01:58:10,580
Well, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, not home. I meant from Coltus.

1424
01:58:11,860 --> 01:58:14,980
From Coltus Lake. When? To get back here.

1425
01:58:15,940 --> 01:58:20,580
When are you going to Coltus? I went today. Did you not notice me say I was at the water slides?

1426
01:58:20,580 --> 01:58:24,420
Oh, is that, no. I was very focused. He doesn't even listen to me.

1427
01:58:24,420 --> 01:58:26,340
And so it's worked for you, for you.

1428
01:58:31,460 --> 01:58:38,260
Anyways. But yeah, the car is actually legitimately pretty clean at this point.

1429
01:58:39,060 --> 01:58:41,060
I'll be the judge of that. Sure. All right.

1430
01:58:42,260 --> 01:58:45,380
What are we talking about? How it gets scratched. But there's tons of ways.

1431
01:58:45,380 --> 01:58:49,460
Oh, yeah, yeah. Because like if you're wearing jeans. Yeah, like putting random, yeah, so much stuff in it.

1432
01:58:49,460 --> 01:58:52,740
That too. Scratching things on the way in and out. It has leather seats. So for a while there.

1433
01:58:52,740 --> 01:58:58,660
He's a friction-y boy. I was for a while there.

1434
01:58:58,660 --> 01:59:05,300
I was worried about like, you know, putting something on the seats or whatever. I would put like a blanket or a towel down or something

1435
01:59:05,300 --> 01:59:08,580
to try to predict the seat. And now it's like, whatever dude. Yeah. I don't know.

1436
01:59:08,580 --> 01:59:11,140
It was liberating spilling muriatic acid in my car.

1437
01:59:11,700 --> 01:59:13,860
Right. Like it kind of sucks. But at the same time, you're like,

1438
01:59:14,740 --> 01:59:17,540
first one's out of the way. Yeah, nothing's going to be worse than that. Yeah.

1439
01:59:19,860 --> 01:59:24,020
Yeah. I don't know. Like I've, I've stored snowboards in my car now.

1440
01:59:24,020 --> 01:59:28,260
Like whatever. At a certain point it's like, I want to use it for what it's for.

1441
01:59:28,260 --> 01:59:31,780
Yeah. And not worry too much about all the little details.

1442
01:59:31,780 --> 01:59:35,700
Yeah. The first one is jeans part. God, I have never even gotten to the point.

1443
01:59:35,700 --> 01:59:39,380
There's the little like studs on your jeans that hold them together.

1444
01:59:39,380 --> 01:59:42,660
And if you lean against a car, it could scratch the car. I realized.

1445
01:59:42,660 --> 01:59:46,660
I thought you were going somewhere else. I said that. And I'm tired of me with that. Immediately after I said the word.

1446
01:59:46,660 --> 01:59:50,340
They've never popped off from the sheer size of my.

1447
01:59:50,500 --> 01:59:52,500
Luke, you don't hold your jeans together.

1448
01:59:55,220 --> 01:59:57,700
Sorry. Motion anyway.

1449
01:59:59,220 --> 02:00:02,260
We should probably move on. Oh my goodness. We have got more. Rivets, yeah, rivets. Sorry.

1450
02:00:02,260 --> 02:00:05,620
I thought they're called studs and rivets. We never answered their questions. What was going on?

1451
02:00:06,820 --> 02:00:10,660
What do you value? How did we get to that?

1452
02:00:10,660 --> 02:00:14,020
I don't know. This is going so bad. Because you always bring it there.

1453
02:00:15,220 --> 02:00:17,380
I'll take that. Always start talking about your pants.

1454
02:00:19,300 --> 02:00:22,500
Oh my goodness. Where did it go? He takes it. I can't.

1455
02:00:28,100 --> 02:00:31,940
Oh no. I don't know where the limit is. So I'm going to keep my mouth shut.

1456
02:00:33,220 --> 02:00:36,420
What piece of tech has the best? Well, then you really won't be able to.

1457
02:00:36,420 --> 02:00:38,500
Whoa. Whoa.

1458
02:00:39,700 --> 02:00:43,300
My face is starting to hurt. My goodness. Mine too.

1459
02:00:43,300 --> 02:00:46,580
Okay. Wow. Your face hurts.

1460
02:00:50,980 --> 02:00:54,740
Is that like a weird nerve thing? Like where you kind of pinch here, but you feel it over here?

1461
02:01:01,060 --> 02:01:04,500
Okay. Okay. Oh man. Oh man.

1462
02:01:04,500 --> 02:01:08,260
A valley. It says. There's a homoerotic vibes on the big guy.

1463
02:01:10,100 --> 02:01:13,700
I think that's the middle square. It should be the free one.

1464
02:01:17,620 --> 02:01:18,980
What is this stupid show?

1465
02:01:20,820 --> 02:01:24,420
Most valuable piece of tech. Oh right, right, right. Okay. So what do I value?

1466
02:01:24,420 --> 02:01:28,820
I value my NAS. The NAS is the one I would save in a fire.

1467
02:01:30,660 --> 02:01:33,380
I try. Yeah, good luck. Yeah.

1468
02:01:38,740 --> 02:01:42,420
Oh man. I have cloud backup of things I really care about.

1469
02:01:43,220 --> 02:01:47,220
Now that you said the save in a fire thing, like I wouldn't save any of my tech in a fire.

1470
02:01:48,100 --> 02:01:52,180
You wouldn't even take your phone? If it's not already in my pocket,

1471
02:01:52,180 --> 02:01:56,020
there's probably other things. That's fair. I have the birds. And I mean that figuratively,

1472
02:01:56,020 --> 02:01:59,700
you do not save anything in a fire unless it has a beating heart.

1473
02:01:59,700 --> 02:02:03,300
Yeah, yeah. But like, I mean even just like,

1474
02:02:03,300 --> 02:02:04,980
I don't know my phone. I don't even like it.

1475
02:02:06,980 --> 02:02:10,180
I'm not going to replace it because I'm too cheap, but I'm not a fan of it.

1476
02:02:10,180 --> 02:02:13,380
So like whatever. If I can grab it on the way out, sure.

1477
02:02:13,380 --> 02:02:14,980
It's just that I'm a little hurt right now.

1478
02:02:16,500 --> 02:02:20,500
Why? Because that Bulbasaur computer was handcrafted

1479
02:02:20,500 --> 02:02:25,620
by my children. I would love to say that. And you would not choose that as your most valuable tech.

1480
02:02:25,620 --> 02:02:27,140
Charizard's going to win in this fight.

1481
02:02:32,100 --> 02:02:36,020
It's so big and heavy and it's like, I'd have to, if I don't unplug it,

1482
02:02:36,020 --> 02:02:38,740
it's going to be stuck. I'm just waiting for him to bring up his squirtle again.

1483
02:02:41,460 --> 02:02:45,620
Got him. Casey Bain said, what about your birds?

1484
02:02:45,620 --> 02:02:49,940
Yeah, that's essentially the problem, right? Like. Yeah, but how do you like save a bird in fire?

1485
02:02:49,940 --> 02:02:54,580
Like they don't have clipped wings. They'll be dead. So literally. I'd have to grab the cage and just run.

1486
02:02:54,580 --> 02:02:59,860
Okay, the cage. As long as you have the cage, then they have a chance. If they're out of the cage, it's probably just over.

1487
02:03:00,740 --> 02:03:04,580
If there's smoke and they're out of the cage. There are tricks to be able to catch them.

1488
02:03:04,580 --> 02:03:09,220
Really? They have oddly enough, I always thought the opposite

1489
02:03:09,220 --> 02:03:12,500
for the longest time, but birds have at least budgies.

1490
02:03:12,500 --> 02:03:17,060
Maybe this isn't true, but all that. Oh, interesting. Terrible night vision. Oh, I thought you were going to say they're territorial.

1491
02:03:17,060 --> 02:03:21,620
No. Okay, go ahead. Owls have fantastic night vision as far as I know,

1492
02:03:21,620 --> 02:03:25,940
but budgies have terrible night vision. So if you just turn the lights low, they can't see anything

1493
02:03:25,940 --> 02:03:29,860
and I can just catch them. Oh, I thought you meant like catch them outside.

1494
02:03:29,860 --> 02:03:33,700
No, no, no, no, no. Yeah, they're just gone. If they get outside, they're pretty gone.

1495
02:03:33,700 --> 02:03:38,180
There is ways to catch them in that case, but that's like a process.

1496
02:03:38,180 --> 02:03:42,740
It's not. Yeah, it's. Trank dart. No, they would definitely die.

1497
02:03:43,700 --> 02:03:48,740
They're the size of the budgie. A really small one, obviously.

1498
02:03:48,740 --> 02:03:53,380
I'm not an idiot. I think I've told this story on Wancho, but I've told you the story about how we were trying

1499
02:03:53,380 --> 02:03:58,420
to catch that person's buddy that got out. Yeah. I was walking around a park with a bird cage

1500
02:03:58,420 --> 02:04:01,460
and a speaker playing bird noises, looking absolutely insane.

1501
02:04:02,820 --> 02:04:06,100
Yeah, that's how you catch them, because they hear other birds and they're like,

1502
02:04:06,100 --> 02:04:10,020
okay, that's good. And then they see a cage and they're like, well, that's where food often is.

1503
02:04:10,740 --> 02:04:15,700
So I'll go there and then you just close the door. Nice. But then you have to figure out where the heck they are.

1504
02:04:15,700 --> 02:04:18,820
Right. So that can be rough. Put an air tag on it.

1505
02:04:21,620 --> 02:04:24,740
Then it wouldn't fly away. Yeah, that's true. That's true.

1506
02:04:24,740 --> 02:04:27,860
Hey, oh, speaking of pets, we got two new cats. Yeah.

1507
02:04:28,420 --> 02:04:31,940
Yep. Your ARM is what I was pointing at. Oh, yeah, right.

1508
02:04:31,940 --> 02:04:35,460
I told the story last week. Yeah. So how's that going? Great.

1509
02:04:35,460 --> 02:04:38,580
They are super, super well socialized.

1510
02:04:38,580 --> 02:04:42,580
They are. Yeah. On day one, they were like scampering around

1511
02:04:42,580 --> 02:04:45,940
climbing everything, sitting in our laps. Couldn't believe it, couldn't believe it.

1512
02:04:45,940 --> 02:04:50,260
The sitting in your last part is pretty crazy. Yeah. So are they integrating with the other cats at all?

1513
02:04:50,260 --> 02:04:53,860
Here's Yvonne, day one. Wow. Yeah.

1514
02:04:53,860 --> 02:04:56,900
Just they are, they be practically any animal.

1515
02:04:56,900 --> 02:05:03,060
They be chilling. We put a little, I've found a cheap cat tree on Craigslist

1516
02:05:03,060 --> 02:05:07,300
and our Facebook marketplace and just like put it in the

1517
02:05:07,300 --> 02:05:10,900
bathroom where they're staying while we keep them isolated from the other cats.

1518
02:05:10,900 --> 02:05:14,020
Yeah. How long do you have to do that? Oh, they want to see, show the class. Okay.

1519
02:05:14,020 --> 02:05:17,060
Yeah. Here, I'll send it. I'll message it to Dan, Dan.

1520
02:05:17,060 --> 02:05:21,620
Yep. How long do you have to do the isolation for? We don't have to anything, but they have fleas

1521
02:05:21,620 --> 02:05:26,500
and we can't treat them for another three weeks. And that also gives the other cats a little bit of time

1522
02:05:26,500 --> 02:05:29,780
to kind of smell that something's going on.

1523
02:05:30,420 --> 02:05:34,020
And it also gives these guys a little bit of time

1524
02:05:34,020 --> 02:05:36,420
to get a little bigger and stuff and stuff.

1525
02:05:37,060 --> 02:05:40,820
Are they, you said they have fleas

1526
02:05:40,820 --> 02:05:44,020
and there was a picture of Avon sitting with them. Yeah. So we're just,

1527
02:05:44,580 --> 02:05:47,940
You just take your clothes off, wash them after you. Yeah, that makes sense.

1528
02:05:49,940 --> 02:05:52,980
And realistically, we're just going to have to like treat everything after anyway.

1529
02:05:52,980 --> 02:05:56,420
So yeah, that is what it is. Yeah. More over it.

1530
02:05:56,420 --> 02:05:59,700
Yeah. That's fair enough. Yeah. Birds you usually do like a month,

1531
02:05:59,700 --> 02:06:03,220
even if there's no known issues, just quarantine for a month.

1532
02:06:04,660 --> 02:06:07,700
Yep. Oh, they're at the top of the dock.

1533
02:06:07,700 --> 02:06:12,420
Oh, okay. I thought you were just going to put them up. Okay, so here's my wife.

1534
02:06:14,660 --> 02:06:18,500
I've managed to catch her not yelling. Is that cute or what?

1535
02:06:19,540 --> 02:06:20,660
That's pretty cute. Oh, shoot.

1536
02:06:22,980 --> 02:06:24,100
Leaked my wife's pussy.

1537
02:06:28,180 --> 02:06:31,940
That's the best one yet. Anyway, here's them.

1538
02:06:31,940 --> 02:06:34,180
Ridiculous. Are they cute or what?

1539
02:06:35,860 --> 02:06:36,180
Yes.

1540
02:06:39,460 --> 02:06:42,820
They seem to be getting along quite well as well. Yeah. That's good.

1541
02:06:42,820 --> 02:06:45,700
Yep. We'll see what the other cats think.

1542
02:06:46,980 --> 02:06:50,420
There's so many now. Yeah, we're up to five.

1543
02:06:50,420 --> 02:06:52,740
Sheesh. That's like...

1544
02:06:54,100 --> 02:06:58,900
We're getting pretty close to Crazy Cat Lady territory here. Yeah, what is the line there?

1545
02:06:58,900 --> 02:07:01,060
Oh, I think we're at... Is it five or are you past it?

1546
02:07:02,340 --> 02:07:06,260
If you got one more, are you now officially Crazy Cat Lady? We see it as a ratio.

1547
02:07:07,060 --> 02:07:13,060
We are a household of five people. We only actually have a one cat to one person ratio.

1548
02:07:13,060 --> 02:07:14,740
That doesn't seem that crazy.

1549
02:07:16,340 --> 02:07:19,300
If we had 15 cats, well,

1550
02:07:20,500 --> 02:07:22,420
there'd need to be an intervention of some sort.

1551
02:07:24,180 --> 02:07:29,140
I don't know. A lot of people have two cats. Yeah, but they have two people usually.

1552
02:07:29,140 --> 02:07:34,420
Yeah, you got five people there. Yeah, exactly. That's 10 cats. Yeah, totally reasonable.

1553
02:07:34,420 --> 02:07:35,940
I think 10 would be fine. Yeah.

1554
02:07:37,780 --> 02:07:41,700
Pretty reasonable. Yeah, it's about the ratio, Luke. No, I don't think it's...

1555
02:07:41,700 --> 02:07:45,300
Okay, I think it can be at least partially about the ratio, but it also has to be...

1556
02:07:45,300 --> 02:07:49,620
If you and I had two wives, then it would be fine as long as there's two of us.

1557
02:07:50,980 --> 02:07:53,140
Right? So it's fine.

1558
02:07:54,660 --> 02:07:57,780
As long as between the two of us, we don't have, say, six wives.

1559
02:07:59,060 --> 02:08:02,980
Here in Canada, anyway. Yes. Always doing the cult? Other than in Bountiful.

1560
02:08:04,020 --> 02:08:08,500
Yeah. Yeah, there's like a cult town in BC.

1561
02:08:08,500 --> 02:08:11,380
We're not really sure how that works. No, we want to do the cult town.

1562
02:08:13,860 --> 02:08:16,980
Linus Tectown. That's only you two. That's not me. LTT, Linus Tectown.

1563
02:08:16,980 --> 02:08:20,260
Yeah. It's already named. It's already named.

1564
02:08:20,260 --> 02:08:25,700
What about Shayne's husband? And then where we do the bizarre experimentation on people

1565
02:08:25,700 --> 02:08:26,740
could be LTT Labs.

1566
02:08:29,140 --> 02:08:30,820
Perfect. It writes itself. Yeah.

1567
02:08:32,260 --> 02:08:35,140
That's amazing. Yeah, I love it.

1568
02:08:36,180 --> 02:08:37,300
We'll all eat blue oysters.

1569
02:08:39,460 --> 02:08:42,740
That was pretty good. You don't recall? I don't recall. Blue oyster cult. Blue oyster cult.

1570
02:08:42,740 --> 02:08:46,500
It's not good. That's pretty good. It was pretty good. That's stupid. It took me a second.

1571
02:08:46,500 --> 02:08:48,660
I was like, oh, yeah, that is a thing.

1572
02:08:49,540 --> 02:08:54,660
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1573
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1574
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Time to drop that. That's not a real picture. Yeah, it is.

1575
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Well, not the face. No, the face has been altered. Pretty notably.

1576
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The hair, not so much. The hair is legit. The clothes are legit.

1577
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1609
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Oh, yeah, I agree. I just, I didn't know they had wireless solutions. And then they took the whole thing

1610
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and they made it like Smarterer. Yeah. Cool, great job, you guys.

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We actually did a sponsored video with Pulseway earlier this week that I'm very excited about.

1625
02:12:44,260 --> 02:12:49,700
We added some automations to the water-cooled rack

1626
02:12:49,700 --> 02:12:54,260
that will hopefully prevent disaster again. Oh, that seems good.

1627
02:12:54,260 --> 02:13:01,060
So with Pulseway, we can shut down all the systems in the event of our leak detectors sensing liquid.

1628
02:13:01,700 --> 02:13:05,060
We can shut off our... There's a relay for the pumps.

1629
02:13:05,060 --> 02:13:09,380
Jake created a bunch of automations and stuff. So basically, everything will be fine.

1630
02:13:09,380 --> 02:13:11,620
That's awesome. Go, Jake. Yep. That'll be good.

1631
02:13:12,820 --> 02:13:16,660
What else we got going on here today? What do you want to talk about?

1632
02:13:18,820 --> 02:13:22,580
I think we have another title topic. Which one was it?

1633
02:13:22,580 --> 02:13:26,020
Oh, yeah. A new version of Windows unlocks crazy Ryzen performance boost. Yeah.

1634
02:13:26,020 --> 02:13:29,460
Early tests of AMD's branch prediction improvements

1635
02:13:29,460 --> 02:13:32,900
in the upcoming 23H2 version of Windows 11

1636
02:13:32,900 --> 02:13:41,460
show significant performance jumps in most games. Hardware Lux found improvements between 13 and 41% for Starfield.

1637
02:13:41,460 --> 02:13:43,940
Wow, for all the dozens of people playing that game still.

1638
02:13:44,660 --> 02:13:49,380
Great job. This one's maybe a little better. 4 to 61% for Cyberpunk.

1639
02:13:49,380 --> 02:13:56,180
This is a huge delta. And roughly 10 to roughly 20% improvements for F1 2024,

1640
02:13:56,820 --> 02:14:02,340
depending on CPU. Hardware Unbox found a 2 to 4% improvement in Halo Infinite,

1641
02:14:02,340 --> 02:14:06,900
but a 30% plus improvement for Gears 5

1642
02:14:06,900 --> 02:14:10,100
and 13% improvement for Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six Siege.

1643
02:14:10,100 --> 02:14:15,620
Hardware Unbox also found similar numbers to Hardware Lux for F1 2024.

1644
02:14:15,620 --> 02:14:21,780
Go check those videos out for more information. Microsoft has also backported these improvements

1645
02:14:21,780 --> 02:14:26,100
into an optional update for the current version of Windows.

1646
02:14:26,100 --> 02:14:31,060
Oh, that's exciting as well. Excellent. So yeah, great work.

1647
02:14:31,060 --> 02:14:36,180
Keep it up. Maybe next time at launch would be better.

1648
02:14:36,180 --> 02:14:39,460
Yeah, wait for that update or something. Letting everybody know you're using an Admit account

1649
02:14:39,460 --> 02:14:42,500
and stuff like that would be really good. That'd be nice.

1650
02:14:43,540 --> 02:14:50,020
What else we got this week? There were a lot of people calling on me to...

1651
02:14:51,700 --> 02:14:56,340
How do I put this? To kind of do a takedown of...

1652
02:14:57,220 --> 02:15:02,020
Hold on, let me just... I want to actually bring up the topics doc

1653
02:15:02,020 --> 02:15:08,580
because I actually wrote some of my own thoughts in there and they didn't necessarily make their way into the doc itself.

1654
02:15:08,580 --> 02:15:11,940
So there were people, particularly on Reddit,

1655
02:15:11,940 --> 02:15:16,260
calling on me to do a takedown of Austin Evans' video

1656
02:15:16,260 --> 02:15:24,180
on the Framework 13. He published a review yesterday talking about a lot of the downsides

1657
02:15:24,180 --> 02:15:28,980
of the hyper-repairable modular laptop investment disclosure.

1658
02:15:28,980 --> 02:15:33,940
I'm invested in Framework. Some of the downsides he identified

1659
02:15:33,940 --> 02:15:36,340
were the relatively high price for the performance,

1660
02:15:37,140 --> 02:15:42,180
construction compromises for the sake of modularity, the genericness of the keyboard.

1661
02:15:42,180 --> 02:15:45,460
There's actually some stuff he talked about that isn't necessarily in my notes here.

1662
02:15:45,460 --> 02:15:51,780
He talked about the lag for Framework to have the latest processors.

1663
02:15:55,140 --> 02:16:00,020
But I guess what I'm sort of trying to ask is

1664
02:16:00,820 --> 02:16:03,140
why would I be doing a takedown of his video?

1665
02:16:04,340 --> 02:16:09,060
His conclusion was that essentially it wasn't for him.

1666
02:16:09,060 --> 02:16:13,540
He didn't see the value of it. And this ties directly back into the same thing

1667
02:16:13,540 --> 02:16:19,140
that I've been complaining about, which is not all reviewer people need to agree with each other

1668
02:16:19,140 --> 02:16:23,940
and that's okay. Like Austin doesn't need to agree with your take.

1669
02:16:24,740 --> 02:16:28,980
If it's even different than your take. But that's the thing is I don't even think he did.

1670
02:16:28,980 --> 02:16:34,180
If you watch the whole video and if you listen, it's 20 minutes long, like it's long.

1671
02:16:34,180 --> 02:16:39,460
And if you listen to everything he says, he talks a lot about the positive things as well.

1672
02:16:39,460 --> 02:16:41,060
It's actually pretty balanced.

1673
02:16:42,740 --> 02:16:47,700
And I think actually a lot of the negative, he's getting roasted for it.

1674
02:16:47,700 --> 02:16:50,900
Seems like it. And I think a lot of the negativity toward the video

1675
02:16:50,900 --> 02:16:54,100
actually demonstrates what a good job he did

1676
02:16:54,100 --> 02:16:58,820
of outlining the compelling things about the framework and particularly the framework 13.

1677
02:16:58,820 --> 02:17:02,900
Because everyone who watched his video disagrees with his conclusion because he actually did

1678
02:17:02,900 --> 02:17:06,900
a really great job of outlining everything that's super good about it.

1679
02:17:08,020 --> 02:17:11,140
There are a couple of things that,

1680
02:17:11,140 --> 02:17:14,740
if I was to have a private conversation with him, I might say, yeah, here's something,

1681
02:17:14,740 --> 02:17:23,140
here's an alternate perspective or whatever else. But I don't know, it was kind of disheartening for me

1682
02:17:23,940 --> 02:17:27,380
to see the people who were looking for some kind of drama

1683
02:17:27,380 --> 02:17:31,620
or showdown between me and Austin. There won't be, there shouldn't be.

1684
02:17:32,980 --> 02:17:36,740
He didn't make it personal. Nothing he said was personal.

1685
02:17:36,740 --> 02:17:40,980
Everything he said was his opinion based on his time,

1686
02:17:40,980 --> 02:17:45,300
his experience with the product. And he has different priorities.

1687
02:17:45,300 --> 02:17:48,340
I saw a couple of people criticizing the laptop

1688
02:17:48,340 --> 02:17:51,620
that he compared it to saying that it wasn't a like for like,

1689
02:17:51,620 --> 02:17:55,860
the one that he found for half the price that had the same processor in it or whatever else.

1690
02:17:55,860 --> 02:18:03,140
And you know what, that's fair. But Austin's priorities might not be those things

1691
02:18:03,140 --> 02:18:08,260
that are better about the framework 13. And I think you'd have to be a complete fanboy.

1692
02:18:08,260 --> 02:18:13,060
You'd have to be deluded to look at the framework 13 and say, it's the best value laptop.

1693
02:18:13,060 --> 02:18:16,900
We don't even use them internally here. And there's a variety of reasons for that.

1694
02:18:16,900 --> 02:18:20,900
A lot of our folks prefer touchscreen. Framework still doesn't have a touchscreen option.

1695
02:18:20,900 --> 02:18:23,460
That's feedback. I've been giving them on an ongoing basis.

1696
02:18:24,260 --> 02:18:28,100
The cost is not necessarily the most competitive

1697
02:18:28,100 --> 02:18:32,340
for what the spec is. There are departments where we have at least considered

1698
02:18:32,340 --> 02:18:35,460
rolling them out and the ability to upgrade them over time

1699
02:18:35,460 --> 02:18:39,220
is a key part of that. The ease with which you can get replacement parts

1700
02:18:39,220 --> 02:18:43,140
is a key part of that. But it's not going to be perfect for every environment.

1701
02:18:43,140 --> 02:18:46,580
And guys, investment or no to investment,

1702
02:18:47,140 --> 02:18:50,980
I would never tell you that it's the perfect thing for every environment.

1703
02:18:52,740 --> 02:18:56,340
Look, the second that I turn into a framework salesman,

1704
02:18:56,340 --> 02:18:59,620
you should stop buying frameworks and you should stop watching LTT.

1705
02:18:59,620 --> 02:19:02,020
That hasn't happened and it never will. It's ridiculous.

1706
02:19:04,580 --> 02:19:08,180
Yeah, like what's, hold on. I saw a comment from someone that was like,

1707
02:19:08,180 --> 02:19:14,100
it felt like, I think it was Crystal. It felt like he missed the point, but he didn't.

1708
02:19:14,100 --> 02:19:19,860
He outlined the point really well. He actually talked in detail about the point

1709
02:19:19,860 --> 02:19:24,580
and about the benefits. And I don't agree with his conclusion.

1710
02:19:26,180 --> 02:19:33,380
Which is fine. Yeah. Which is totally fine. But what I do respect is the way that he outlined

1711
02:19:33,380 --> 02:19:36,740
both sides before he presented his conclusion,

1712
02:19:36,740 --> 02:19:40,980
giving you an opportunity to be armed with the facts and decide if you agree with him or not.

1713
02:19:42,980 --> 02:19:51,300
I don't know. I'm just so, I'm so done with everybody having to agree.

1714
02:19:52,340 --> 02:19:56,500
And if we disagree, not being able to do it in a manner that is respectful.

1715
02:19:59,300 --> 02:20:05,940
Yeah. You should get multiple perspectives. I have always said that and the only perspective

1716
02:20:05,940 --> 02:20:10,500
that I won't accept is the perspective that you don't need multiple perspectives.

1717
02:20:10,500 --> 02:20:14,180
There is no one truth. There is no one answer.

1718
02:20:14,980 --> 02:20:19,700
It is never that simple. You could look at the best benchmarks

1719
02:20:19,700 --> 02:20:24,340
taken in the most scientific manner, but if the most

1720
02:20:24,340 --> 02:20:30,180
important thing to you is turning on all of the eye candy with a bunch of mods, those benchmarks

1721
02:20:30,740 --> 02:20:35,380
are never going to be the most relevant thing to you because in the interest of repeatability,

1722
02:20:35,380 --> 02:20:36,820
they can never use those mods.

1723
02:20:38,980 --> 02:20:42,020
It's never black and white. Literally, never.

1724
02:20:43,860 --> 02:20:47,380
Just, I'm tired of it, man, tired of it.

1725
02:20:47,380 --> 02:20:52,100
It's really frustrating. Speaking of frustrating, Ubisoft Patch resets

1726
02:20:52,100 --> 02:20:57,380
player progress for Star Wars Outlaws. Several hours after the launch of the paid

1727
02:20:57,380 --> 02:21:02,180
three-day early access for Star Wars Outlaws, Ubisoft sent PS5 players an email

1728
02:21:02,180 --> 02:21:06,740
telling them to install a day one patch. That's a weird way of communicating that.

1729
02:21:06,740 --> 02:21:12,100
But sure, the patch fixes some potentially game-breaking bugs, such as one that could lead to

1730
02:21:12,100 --> 02:21:18,180
the player being forever stranded in space, but it also requires players to restart from a new save.

1731
02:21:19,700 --> 02:21:22,820
Oof. According to Ubisoft, pre-patch save files

1732
02:21:22,820 --> 02:21:25,380
will face issues and progression blockers.

1733
02:21:26,020 --> 02:21:32,740
As compensation, Ubisoft is giving these players an in-game cosmetic called a trailblazer trinket

1734
02:21:32,740 --> 02:21:36,660
and 100 Ubisoft connect units.

1735
02:21:36,660 --> 02:21:38,340
Is that a belly button ring or what?

1736
02:21:40,260 --> 02:21:44,180
What kind of trail will be blazing? No idea. It says a.k.a. loyalty points.

1737
02:21:45,460 --> 02:21:46,340
Get some treasure.

1738
02:21:49,380 --> 02:21:52,580
Oh my goodness. It says a.k.a. loyalty points.

1739
02:21:52,580 --> 02:21:55,940
I don't know what connect units are or whatever. I have no idea.

1740
02:21:56,500 --> 02:22:00,980
The deluxe editions that include this three-day early access period cost $40 to $60

1741
02:22:00,980 --> 02:22:03,620
on top of the price of the base game.

1742
02:22:04,420 --> 02:22:08,820
Some players lost 15 hours of playtime.

1743
02:22:10,100 --> 02:22:11,220
Okay, so here's my thing.

1744
02:22:13,540 --> 02:22:14,260
Save data

1745
02:22:17,940 --> 02:22:21,220
should be compensated at like...

1746
02:22:22,580 --> 02:22:26,660
Dude. Yeah. Dude. The first time I did it, it wasn't work.

1747
02:22:27,540 --> 02:22:30,580
It was play. It's definitely gonna feel like work the second time.

1748
02:22:30,580 --> 02:22:33,940
It's definitely work the second time. For a lot of... Probably this game.

1749
02:22:33,940 --> 02:22:38,180
This is one of the things that makes me so angry about Nintendo. Just they do a lot of things that are really great

1750
02:22:38,180 --> 02:22:40,020
that make great games. I'm gonna keep giving them my money.

1751
02:22:41,460 --> 02:22:45,780
But the way that they hold your save data hostage

1752
02:22:46,980 --> 02:22:51,620
if you don't buy their online subscription is actually...

1753
02:22:53,540 --> 02:22:55,860
I can't make an argument for why it should be criminal,

1754
02:22:56,580 --> 02:23:01,780
but I wish it was. Yeah, it's already... The fact that you can't back up that save data in any other way.

1755
02:23:01,780 --> 02:23:06,820
Just so angry. And so looking at this, the fact that people had to pay extra

1756
02:23:07,780 --> 02:23:12,740
to have to do work essentially doing QA for Ubisoft,

1757
02:23:13,380 --> 02:23:15,780
a multi-billion dollar company, I just...

1758
02:23:16,580 --> 02:23:23,540
I can't abide it. Speaking of... This is a little off topic, but in the realm of how you were like,

1759
02:23:23,540 --> 02:23:27,940
yeah, Nintendo's make some great stuff. They make really frustrating other things,

1760
02:23:27,940 --> 02:23:29,860
but I'll just keep giving them my money because they make great games.

1761
02:23:31,860 --> 02:23:35,620
Mr. Dankpods over there has a video, his most recent video.

1762
02:23:35,700 --> 02:23:38,820
It's called It's Time to Change, It's Time for Linux.

1763
02:23:40,500 --> 02:23:44,580
And he basically talks in this video. What year is it? You should go watch it yourself.

1764
02:23:44,580 --> 02:23:49,220
What year is it? The year of Linux desktop. Is it the year of Linux desktop?

1765
02:23:49,220 --> 02:23:52,340
It's a really great video. Go ahead, go ahead.

1766
02:23:52,340 --> 02:23:55,220
It's a great video. It has half a million views already.

1767
02:23:56,260 --> 02:24:00,900
We're not gonna watch it, although it is this type of stuff.

1768
02:24:00,900 --> 02:24:04,500
But you should go watch it yourself. Even if you're not going to switch to Linux,

1769
02:24:04,500 --> 02:24:06,340
honestly, I think it's just a really...

1770
02:24:07,540 --> 02:24:10,580
I mean, he's been doing this for a long time. He's really good at it. It's a very good video.

1771
02:24:11,140 --> 02:24:14,420
But he talks about a lot of good stuff.

1772
02:24:14,420 --> 02:24:18,100
And he talks about how people have flamed him for switching to Linux,

1773
02:24:18,100 --> 02:24:22,980
but then he talks about how those same people are the people that say you should vote with your wallet on things.

1774
02:24:22,980 --> 02:24:27,860
And he's unhappy with what's happening with macOS, and he's unhappy with what's happening with Windows.

1775
02:24:27,860 --> 02:24:33,140
He talked about how you buy this operating system, then you get ads in it, which yeah, that's ridiculous.

1776
02:24:33,220 --> 02:24:36,340
I tried to install an unsigned driver on macOS that was for like...

1777
02:24:37,300 --> 02:24:41,700
I had to clear like four or five different prompts, dig into the settings in order to...

1778
02:24:41,700 --> 02:24:45,780
Yeah, it was wild. Yeah. I was trying to get an old printer working.

1779
02:24:45,780 --> 02:24:49,220
And actually, this was where I was gonna get into year of Linux.

1780
02:24:49,220 --> 02:24:54,740
One of the things that is still just very difficult with Linux

1781
02:24:54,740 --> 02:24:58,820
was we needed a Linux desktop quick, because we were just trying to see

1782
02:24:58,820 --> 02:25:02,740
if this old printer would work with it. And I was like, a Steam Deck.

1783
02:25:03,380 --> 02:25:07,140
I'll just grab a Steam Deck. That's like the closest at hand machine.

1784
02:25:07,780 --> 02:25:10,900
And you just reboot it in desktop mode. It doesn't even reboot.

1785
02:25:10,900 --> 02:25:13,620
I don't think it just switches, fires up the desktop environment.

1786
02:25:14,180 --> 02:25:19,620
And Valve didn't include any of the printer stuff,

1787
02:25:20,580 --> 02:25:25,460
because why would they, I guess, on a game console, except that it's supposedly a desktop computer.

1788
02:25:25,460 --> 02:25:30,020
And it's just completely not there. And it's like... You could get it, but it's gonna be annoying.

1789
02:25:30,260 --> 02:25:34,260
He talks in the video about how there's... Every time I touch it, it's just...

1790
02:25:34,900 --> 02:25:40,180
Okay. Yeah. It's side quest. He talks about that though. It's like if Frodo had to put the Ring in Mount Doom.

1791
02:25:40,180 --> 02:25:43,620
Okay, but first, he had to go play World of Warcraft,

1792
02:25:43,620 --> 02:25:48,660
harvest a bunch of pigs, and then he had to go get the in-game gold

1793
02:25:48,660 --> 02:25:53,060
and get it on a USB, and personally deliver it to freaking like...

1794
02:25:53,060 --> 02:25:56,900
You could argue there's some side-questing in Lord of the Rings. Okay, you could argue that.

1795
02:25:56,900 --> 02:26:00,740
There's a fair amount. Okay, it's like he had to put the Ring in the Mount Doom,

1796
02:26:00,740 --> 02:26:05,380
but first he had to go and fight the Ring Wraiths.

1797
02:26:05,380 --> 02:26:11,380
I don't know, I never read the book. And he had to talk to Tom Bombadil, which is where I stop reading Fellowship of the Ring every single time.

1798
02:26:12,100 --> 02:26:14,900
Yeah, that's it. He had to talk to Tom Bombadil.

1799
02:26:15,620 --> 02:26:19,540
The actually scariest character in the whole book. Dude, the guy's deranged.

1800
02:26:21,220 --> 02:26:26,820
But yeah, anyways. Every time I tried to read that book, like three or four times, can't get past it.

1801
02:26:26,900 --> 02:26:33,300
And I'm not the kind of person who can just skip. Yeah. And I don't think there'll ever be an abridged Lord of the Rings.

1802
02:26:33,300 --> 02:26:36,820
Has someone done it? Have they actually published? And I'm going to look it up.

1803
02:26:36,820 --> 02:26:39,940
I feel like probably. A bridged Fellowship of the Ring. Before we get completely off the topic. They've done like kids' version.

1804
02:26:39,940 --> 02:26:43,460
I'm not counting that. Whether you're interested in Linux or not, honestly, I would go watch the video.

1805
02:26:43,460 --> 02:26:49,140
I think it's really good. I think it's extremely based for consumers to just

1806
02:26:50,020 --> 02:26:54,820
not buy into things that they actually really hate. So I strongly support what he's doing.

1807
02:26:57,620 --> 02:27:00,420
This is so pompous.

1808
02:27:06,180 --> 02:27:11,460
It is not possible, even at great length, to pot the Lord of the Rings in a paragraph or two.

1809
02:27:12,180 --> 02:27:16,260
It was begun in 1936. And every part has been written many times.

1810
02:27:16,260 --> 02:27:20,100
Hardly a word in its 600,000 or more has been unconsidered.

1811
02:27:20,100 --> 02:27:23,220
And the pacing, style, size, and contribution

1812
02:27:23,220 --> 02:27:27,220
to the whole of all the features, incidents, and chapters has been laboriously pondered.

1813
02:27:29,460 --> 02:27:30,900
You could have bridged the Lord of the Rings.

1814
02:27:33,940 --> 02:27:37,780
Yeah, Drac, Ryu, and Fulplink said a bridged L-O-T-R,

1815
02:27:37,780 --> 02:27:41,700
or yeah, L-O-T-R is the movies. Yeah, I guess.

1816
02:27:41,700 --> 02:27:44,980
Just kind of true. But the books are still alive.

1817
02:27:44,980 --> 02:27:48,020
Didn't they just take the birds? That's the abridged one.

1818
02:27:49,060 --> 02:27:52,260
Oh, it's just going the big crow and then just drop it in from the sky.

1819
02:27:52,260 --> 02:27:55,620
And then woo, we saved the hobbles.

1820
02:27:59,380 --> 02:28:02,900
There you go. Lord of the 30-minute short.

1821
02:28:04,580 --> 02:28:07,620
Zab Rosdauer says those are Tolkien's words.

1822
02:28:07,620 --> 02:28:09,860
I know. That doesn't make them not pompous.

1823
02:28:10,740 --> 02:28:10,980
Yeah.

1824
02:28:13,780 --> 02:28:16,740
I carefully, hold on, hold on, what's the line?

1825
02:28:18,260 --> 02:28:22,100
My use of that word was laboriously pondered.

1826
02:28:22,820 --> 02:28:26,980
Oh, man.

1827
02:28:27,700 --> 02:28:30,980
Anyway. I kind of respect it, though. I don't think you should abridge it.

1828
02:28:34,260 --> 02:28:40,020
If you can't stomach Tom Bombadil, just whatever, just move on.

1829
02:28:41,540 --> 02:28:46,500
It's part of the damage. Yeah, but I don't... I want someone else to do the work for me.

1830
02:28:46,500 --> 02:28:50,020
I don't want to have to skim. I don't want to skim to see when the boring part is over.

1831
02:28:50,580 --> 02:28:54,020
I want the important parts. I don't want to have to wade through the slop

1832
02:28:54,020 --> 02:28:57,460
in order to get like an interesting conversation that takes place or something.

1833
02:28:57,460 --> 02:29:01,860
I think if you're really trying to understand the actual...

1834
02:29:01,860 --> 02:29:06,260
And he was actually very into this, and someone who has read

1835
02:29:06,260 --> 02:29:11,060
The Simerillian, and what is it called, the Sons of Hurin,

1836
02:29:11,060 --> 02:29:15,620
or whatever it's called, all the other books, I think he's trying to help you understand the world.

1837
02:29:15,620 --> 02:29:18,740
And understanding Tom Bombadil does help with understanding the world.

1838
02:29:18,740 --> 02:29:21,380
Oh my god, I'm so bored listening to you right now. Even though he feels out of place.

1839
02:29:22,260 --> 02:29:26,420
You're so tedious right now. It's funny because you actually look more tired.

1840
02:29:26,420 --> 02:29:30,020
Oh yeah. Oh yeah, 100%.

1841
02:29:30,660 --> 02:29:33,700
Yeah. Anyways.

1842
02:29:34,500 --> 02:29:36,260
You could read the book's comments, yeah.

1843
02:29:40,100 --> 02:29:43,380
You probably can. Like, does Goodreads have a comment section?

1844
02:29:44,100 --> 02:29:51,940
Goodreads. It has votes.

1845
02:29:51,940 --> 02:29:52,820
Does it have comments?

1846
02:29:58,020 --> 02:30:01,860
There are reviews. There are reviews, not comments.

1847
02:30:01,860 --> 02:30:04,260
There's comments on the reviews. There we go. Cliff's notes.

1848
02:30:05,220 --> 02:30:08,420
Oh no. Let's go. No. Let's go.

1849
02:30:08,420 --> 02:30:11,700
Oh, easy peasy. Next, The Two Towers.

1850
02:30:11,700 --> 02:30:16,980
Let's go. Band of orcs, capture Marion Pippin, kills Boromir, yeah,

1851
02:30:16,980 --> 02:30:20,420
Marigorne, spoiler alert. Although treated roughly by the orcs,

1852
02:30:20,420 --> 02:30:23,700
Marion Pippin remain unharmed and they're here. I'm attacked. The Hobbits run to safety.

1853
02:30:23,700 --> 02:30:28,020
The Forest. Yep. Yeah, this seems pretty good. Okay. You know what? I'm just going to go with this. I don't need to read the books now.

1854
02:30:28,020 --> 02:30:34,260
To be clear, I'm a reader. I actually am a reader. I have read, you know, thick books and stuff.

1855
02:30:34,260 --> 02:30:38,500
It's not that I'm incapable of- I've read thick books. I've read thick books and stuff.

1856
02:30:39,060 --> 02:30:44,260
I just can't get through Tom Bombadil. It's insufferable. I've read thick books and I can't be fictitious.

1857
02:30:44,900 --> 02:30:48,580
I can't be fictitious. Yeah. Wait, no cap?

1858
02:30:48,580 --> 02:30:51,380
What are you even saying? Yeah, yeah, that basically. All right.

1859
02:30:53,540 --> 02:30:55,060
Yeah, I read the thickest books.

1860
02:30:59,380 --> 02:31:02,420
Yes, I've considered skipping him. That's what Luke tells me to do every time.

1861
02:31:02,420 --> 02:31:06,580
No, someone should help. Someone should have to- Look, that's not my point.

1862
02:31:06,580 --> 02:31:10,660
My point is just that it's not that I am- I don't have the attention span to read.

1863
02:31:11,540 --> 02:31:15,140
Tom Bombadil is a difficult section of the book.

1864
02:31:16,100 --> 02:31:21,940
It's really stupid. Between that and the unending descriptions of mountains.

1865
02:31:22,500 --> 02:31:26,900
I'm just like, if I want to know what a mountain looks like,

1866
02:31:26,900 --> 02:31:30,340
I will literally just open my door and walk outside

1867
02:31:30,340 --> 02:31:34,340
and touch grass. I have mountains right there.

1868
02:31:34,340 --> 02:31:36,580
Some people don't. But I do.

1869
02:31:37,780 --> 02:31:41,940
I don't need that book for them. Oh, so now we're hating on mountains.

1870
02:31:41,940 --> 02:31:44,420
No, I love hot dogs and hamburgers.

1871
02:31:46,420 --> 02:31:49,460
I like hamburger patties that are made of hot dog meat.

1872
02:31:49,460 --> 02:31:52,980
I'm going to go- Wait, no, I don't think anyone would like that. Would that be-

1873
02:31:53,700 --> 02:31:56,660
Would that be good? That's not a hamburger patty.

1874
02:31:57,220 --> 02:32:02,900
Sausage patty? Sausage patty? A sausage patty? And also hot dog meat is not sausage.

1875
02:32:02,900 --> 02:32:06,260
Sausage is awful. Hot dog is a whole other level. Pork patties?

1876
02:32:06,980 --> 02:32:10,100
Pork patties. Hot dogs made of ground beef.

1877
02:32:10,100 --> 02:32:13,140
Okay, hold on. What are we even- Breakfast sausage patties.

1878
02:32:13,140 --> 02:32:16,900
Did we just invent food? I think we might have just invented food.

1879
02:32:20,020 --> 02:32:24,980
I think we invented a food. I think I'm going to go hike into the mountains

1880
02:32:24,980 --> 02:32:28,500
and read Lord of the Rings in the mountains so I can read descriptions of mountains while on a mountain.

1881
02:32:28,500 --> 02:32:32,260
You're totally not going to do that. Probably not. But I'm going for a hike on Monday.

1882
02:32:32,260 --> 02:32:36,340
But anyways. You're not going to take Lord of the Rings with you? That'd be so lame.

1883
02:32:36,340 --> 02:32:39,060
Yeah. That'd be so lame you wouldn't be able to hike on the mountain.

1884
02:32:44,260 --> 02:32:47,860
Oh man, you've been on one today. You've been good. I'm spicy today.

1885
02:32:47,860 --> 02:32:48,980
You've been quick with those.

1886
02:32:53,140 --> 02:32:55,460
Police using AI to write reports.

1887
02:32:57,780 --> 02:33:02,980
That's dumb. Axon, formerly known as Taser International.

1888
02:33:07,860 --> 02:33:11,780
Is selling software- Evil company, Inc. Axon, axon, axon.

1889
02:33:13,220 --> 02:33:16,660
Is selling software to law enforcement that uses AI

1890
02:33:16,660 --> 02:33:20,820
to create draft police reports from body cam footage called Draft One.

1891
02:33:21,460 --> 02:33:25,300
Notably, they're also the dominant vendor for police body cameras in the United States.

1892
02:33:25,940 --> 02:33:29,220
At least some police departments, such as the Oklahoma City Police,

1893
02:33:29,220 --> 02:33:34,020
are already using Draft One. The software is only intended to create a draft

1894
02:33:34,020 --> 02:33:37,060
that an officer can then review and edit into a final report.

1895
02:33:37,060 --> 02:33:41,140
There's no way this could go wrong. Both because the AI is not 100% reliable,

1896
02:33:41,140 --> 02:33:45,220
and also because an officer who testifies in court needs to be consistent with written accounts

1897
02:33:45,220 --> 02:33:50,180
authored under their name. Yeah, they can't just read it before they go to court. Yeah, let's see how this goes.

1898
02:33:51,380 --> 02:33:56,180
It'll surely not be terrible. Guaranteed to be terrible. It'll surely not be terrible.

1899
02:33:56,180 --> 02:33:59,700
What a joke. People suck so much.

1900
02:33:59,700 --> 02:34:03,380
Wait, where did my note on this go? What happened to my notes on this?

1901
02:34:03,380 --> 02:34:06,260
What notes on what? Oh, wait, hold on. Did I not have notes on this?

1902
02:34:06,980 --> 02:34:08,340
Maybe I had notes on something else.

1903
02:34:11,620 --> 02:34:16,100
No, oh, man, I was missing one of my really good notes on something.

1904
02:34:16,740 --> 02:34:22,020
The non-tech shutting down thing. I had wanted to talk about how one of the big challenges is

1905
02:34:24,020 --> 02:34:33,380
that there's no money in the written media format

1906
02:34:33,380 --> 02:34:38,180
that a non-tech relies on anymore. I agree. I think it's also that the techie space

1907
02:34:38,180 --> 02:34:44,980
is a higher percentage of ad block users. Ad block hits things like static web ads kind of the hardest.

1908
02:34:46,980 --> 02:34:51,460
There's no money there. I know there's review sites of more normie things

1909
02:34:51,460 --> 02:34:54,980
that do a lot better because lower ad block.

1910
02:34:54,980 --> 02:35:01,140
Tech is going to basically, tech is going to eat its own tail by automating things to death.

1911
02:35:01,700 --> 02:35:06,900
I was reminded of that when I saw this post on r slash hardware

1912
02:35:06,900 --> 02:35:14,260
about our snapdragon for a month challenge, where someone used an AI generated summary to basically, there,

1913
02:35:14,260 --> 02:35:22,500
save you 18 minutes. It's like, you realize that an AI can't use these laptops

1914
02:35:22,500 --> 02:35:27,700
in a real world situation and then report on that

1915
02:35:28,660 --> 02:35:30,660
unless someone is actually doing the work.

1916
02:35:36,980 --> 02:35:38,820
Yep. Good luck, everybody. Yep.

1917
02:35:41,460 --> 02:35:44,660
It's super. That's a weird community.

1918
02:35:46,420 --> 02:35:52,980
It's super weird how sort of tentative

1919
02:35:52,980 --> 02:35:57,220
and scared people have to be to say, I thought it was a good video there.

1920
02:35:58,660 --> 02:36:02,580
Man, the tribalism is a, it's a, it's a whole thing.

1921
02:36:02,580 --> 02:36:05,620
Anyway, good luck, everybody. Nice hash.

1922
02:36:06,340 --> 02:36:11,060
According to multiple reports online, crypto broker nice hash has sent out an email announcing

1923
02:36:11,060 --> 02:36:17,780
they'll be charging a $6 a month service fee to users with inactive accounts starting on October 1st.

1924
02:36:17,780 --> 02:36:23,460
According to the email, users can avoid this service fee by simply engaging in an activity on the platform,

1925
02:36:23,540 --> 02:36:28,420
such as buying or selling crypto. It does not mention account deactivation as an option,

1926
02:36:28,420 --> 02:36:30,900
but many have rushed to do so regardless.

1927
02:36:31,460 --> 02:36:36,260
I guarantee I know why they're doing this. They also implemented a series of other fees,

1928
02:36:36,260 --> 02:36:40,180
including $10 to change your account's email address.

1929
02:36:41,460 --> 02:36:41,940
Look at this.

1930
02:36:45,300 --> 02:36:48,980
So reset to FAA, 10 bucks, recover account, 10 bucks.

1931
02:36:48,980 --> 02:36:52,020
Seriously? 10 bucks. Okay.

1932
02:36:52,020 --> 02:36:56,340
You said you know why they're doing this, other than just being. Okay. This part, I don't know.

1933
02:36:56,340 --> 02:37:01,380
The previous part, I thought it was just because they probably had a lot of stagnant accounts

1934
02:37:01,380 --> 02:37:06,980
from like the absolute peak of GPU mining. And they're sitting there with all these stagnant

1935
02:37:06,980 --> 02:37:11,860
accounts that have Bitcoin sitting in them. I was like, well, I can slowly drain these out

1936
02:37:11,860 --> 02:37:17,140
from people that are not paying attention to their accounts, even if, hey, you know,

1937
02:37:17,140 --> 02:37:21,380
maybe I sort of forgot about that account because it only had like 10 bucks in it.

1938
02:37:21,380 --> 02:37:26,420
I did this over like a few weeks with my GPU and then sort of forgot it existed over time.

1939
02:37:26,420 --> 02:37:29,940
Yeah. 10 bucks would be nice, but it wasn't impactful

1940
02:37:29,940 --> 02:37:33,780
enough that I sort of forgot about it. You can drain that out, but you do that to

1941
02:37:34,420 --> 02:37:39,460
10,000, 100,000 a million. Now it starts being a big deal.

1942
02:37:39,460 --> 02:37:44,900
So you can just, but I don't know, extremely highly monetizing their customer support

1943
02:37:44,900 --> 02:37:48,180
was not a curveball expected to come right after that.

1944
02:37:48,180 --> 02:37:52,100
So now I don't know. Well, anyway, we don't work with them anymore.

1945
02:37:52,100 --> 02:37:55,700
We did one sponsored video with them back when they seemed pretty chill.

1946
02:37:55,700 --> 02:38:00,420
And it blew up anyways. Yeah. People were mad about it. And hey, yeah, maybe they're, maybe they're

1947
02:38:00,420 --> 02:38:05,460
holes. So great. I'm glad we stopped working with them. Yeah. Like this one line, the monthly service fee

1948
02:38:05,460 --> 02:38:08,900
for inactive accounts. Yeah. I suspect they're just, you know,

1949
02:38:08,900 --> 02:38:13,300
if you're going to ignore it, we're going to drain it, which isn't a good thing, but I understand why

1950
02:38:13,300 --> 02:38:16,980
they're doing it. The FBI is bad at shredding hard drives,

1951
02:38:16,980 --> 02:38:20,020
apparently this seemed a lot more interesting when I was first reading it.

1952
02:38:20,020 --> 02:38:23,860
But yeah, basically government not do things

1953
02:38:23,860 --> 02:38:26,980
properly sometimes. And this is really exciting.

1954
02:38:26,980 --> 02:38:32,660
Man, there's been so much good, like pro labor news lately

1955
02:38:32,660 --> 02:38:36,340
and like pro, you know, like regular people news.

1956
02:38:36,340 --> 02:38:39,940
There's been some bad news. Like there was the Canadian government

1957
02:38:39,940 --> 02:38:43,140
mandating the rail workers back to work. That was not super cool.

1958
02:38:43,140 --> 02:38:47,380
But this is super cool. Following a year long investigation,

1959
02:38:47,380 --> 02:38:53,300
the US National Labor Relations Board has found that Amazon is a joint employer of subcontracted

1960
02:38:53,300 --> 02:38:56,340
drivers that work for its partner companies in Palmdale, California.

1961
02:38:56,900 --> 02:39:01,460
Amazon's refusal then to negotiate with their currently striking union

1962
02:39:01,460 --> 02:39:04,740
was thereby determined to be illegal.

1963
02:39:04,740 --> 02:39:08,180
The company was likewise determined to have made unlawful threats.

1964
02:39:08,180 --> 02:39:11,540
I have no idea what the actual impact

1965
02:39:11,540 --> 02:39:15,460
will be on Amazon, but this is sick.

1966
02:39:15,460 --> 02:39:19,860
Being able to just hire a firm that can be spun up

1967
02:39:19,860 --> 02:39:26,180
and closed down or contracted and not contracted on a whim,

1968
02:39:26,180 --> 02:39:29,780
being able to hide behind that and essentially

1969
02:39:29,780 --> 02:39:34,020
not have to pay people living wages and not have to treat them properly

1970
02:39:34,020 --> 02:39:39,060
is such a broken loophole in, I was going to say,

1971
02:39:39,060 --> 02:39:44,900
the American system. But as far as I can tell, it's basically a lot of places and it's gross.

1972
02:39:47,460 --> 02:39:52,020
This is far from a death blow, but this is a good start.

1973
02:39:52,740 --> 02:39:58,420
So let's do away with that. At least one person checked their nice hash account

1974
02:39:58,420 --> 02:40:00,820
because of that thing and found 150 bucks.

1975
02:40:04,900 --> 02:40:08,020
So maybe go check your nice hash account. Yeah, go check your nice hash account.

1976
02:40:08,020 --> 02:40:11,780
Get the money out of there and then run away. Back when it was cool, it was actually

1977
02:40:11,780 --> 02:40:14,500
pretty convenient and pretty cool, which is why we worked with them.

1978
02:40:16,980 --> 02:40:21,860
Definitely get your money out before they take it. Found like $4.50, nice.

1979
02:40:23,060 --> 02:40:24,980
40 bucks, 15 bucks.

1980
02:40:26,260 --> 02:40:29,860
Someone said a lot somewhere. I don't know what it was, like a few hundred.

1981
02:40:32,020 --> 02:40:35,060
Oh, all right. Anyway, all good.

1982
02:40:35,060 --> 02:40:38,180
You good? Oh, yeah. Okay. It's time for my show after dark.

1983
02:40:38,180 --> 02:40:43,780
Oh, very nice. I'll take him a second.

1984
02:40:43,780 --> 02:40:47,780
Oh, yeah, Dan's on this. Man, what's he going to talk about?

1985
02:40:47,780 --> 02:40:51,700
You know, I lived here my whole life. I had never been to the Cultist Lake waterslides.

1986
02:40:52,340 --> 02:40:56,820
Really? Never, not once. Have you been, have you done the 72 foot drop one?

1987
02:40:58,500 --> 02:41:02,740
Is it super new? I don't know. If it's not super new, then yes, because I had.

1988
02:41:02,740 --> 02:41:09,220
It's basically like a vertical drop. Yeah, they had two that were sort of like that.

1989
02:41:09,540 --> 02:41:12,900
One of them was the tandem. The wavy one. There's no tandem.

1990
02:41:12,900 --> 02:41:15,380
They only have one on the wavy one now. No, I mean, sorry.

1991
02:41:16,100 --> 02:41:19,940
It was still a really steep drop, but it was the bowl. Oh, no, not that.

1992
02:41:19,940 --> 02:41:23,860
Oh, man, we put my dad, my brother, and I all in one tube

1993
02:41:23,860 --> 02:41:29,220
and did the bowl. And my dad was able to touch the lip on the other side.

1994
02:41:29,780 --> 02:41:31,140
We got so much.

1995
02:41:32,820 --> 02:41:33,940
It was awesome.

1996
02:41:36,740 --> 02:41:40,340
We used to go to Cultist all the time. Yeah, it was good.

1997
02:41:40,340 --> 02:41:43,620
All right, anyway. Yeah, no, I've never been.

1998
02:41:43,620 --> 02:41:46,900
So finally went. Yeah, it was good.

1999
02:41:46,900 --> 02:41:47,860
It was a pretty good time. Yeah, it was fun.

2000
02:41:50,740 --> 02:41:53,700
Let's see, what else is new? Oh, wait, it's $170 bucks.

2001
02:41:54,740 --> 02:41:58,660
People just keep chiming in like they find a bunch of money. Yeah, go get that money.

2002
02:41:59,540 --> 02:42:02,980
It might be zero, but if it's not, hey, you got something. Spend it on LTT Store.

2003
02:42:02,980 --> 02:42:06,420
Ooh, that's cool. I don't believe that one. Yeah, well, I mean, you never know.

2004
02:42:06,420 --> 02:42:09,060
Some people are pretty pro-y. Yeah.

2005
02:42:10,020 --> 02:42:13,860
You own any crypto right now? No. Yeah, I got nothing. I'm out, dude.

2006
02:42:13,860 --> 02:42:17,460
Yeah, I get it. There's been a bunch of times where I've called it

2007
02:42:17,460 --> 02:42:20,980
and I could have made money, but I just, at this point in time.

2008
02:42:20,980 --> 02:42:24,820
I just don't want to follow it. Exactly. I don't want to put the effort in.

2009
02:42:25,620 --> 02:42:32,100
I'm sure if I did, I could make some money, but there's other things I could do. I don't remember my pass codes on my ledger things.

2010
02:42:32,100 --> 02:42:38,260
It's also just another job, basically. Yeah, I just don't care anymore.

2011
02:42:38,340 --> 02:42:44,180
I think I'm out. Yeah. And which exchange is the one that's probably

2012
02:42:44,180 --> 02:42:50,340
going to disappear and take all your money this time? I've got a buddy that you know, but I'm not going to name.

2013
02:42:50,340 --> 02:42:52,580
Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's super into it and has made.

2014
02:42:55,380 --> 02:42:57,620
Oh, yeah. Disgusting money. Oh, yeah.

2015
02:42:58,980 --> 02:43:02,020
And continues to, to be honest. Doing great.

2016
02:43:02,020 --> 02:43:07,380
Oh, yeah. Proud of the boy, but yeah, he pours a lot of work into it.

2017
02:43:07,380 --> 02:43:10,580
Yeah, it's his job. It's what he does. So it's like, okay, cool.

2018
02:43:10,580 --> 02:43:14,420
But I don't want to do that. I'm doing other stuff. So it is what it is. We all got our things.

2019
02:43:15,540 --> 02:43:20,820
A 5k and nice hash, not even joking. Completely forgot, BTC was like 15k back then.

2020
02:43:21,860 --> 02:43:27,220
Nice. It's sick. Yeah, good for you. I guess that makes sense if it wasn't necessarily

2021
02:43:27,220 --> 02:43:30,340
super valuable back then, but it's gone up a huge amount.

2022
02:43:30,340 --> 02:43:36,020
Yeah, it's sitting pretty good right now. Okay. Yeah, so like $359.71 in my nice hash.

2023
02:43:36,020 --> 02:43:39,060
Don't forget. Don't forget who reminded you.

2024
02:43:39,700 --> 02:43:43,780
lttstore.com. lttstore.com. Full-point subscriptions.

2025
02:43:43,780 --> 02:43:47,220
Oh, my. We need to allow people to gift them.

2026
02:43:47,220 --> 02:43:50,500
Are we working on gifting subscriptions? Not right now, but we will be. Okay, cool.

2027
02:43:50,500 --> 02:43:56,820
That is a plan. There is a, man, how much of this stuff do I want to say?

2028
02:43:56,820 --> 02:44:00,020
I don't know. I don't know. How about a lot of it? No.

2029
02:44:00,020 --> 02:44:01,220
Let's have another business meeting.

2030
02:44:03,060 --> 02:44:06,740
Well, there's a, there's a huge thing that we're working on that I legitimately cannot talk about.

2031
02:44:07,540 --> 02:44:11,060
Why would you even tell me that then? Well, you know, you know about it.

2032
02:44:11,940 --> 02:44:15,300
I don't remember. You'll have to tell me. You'll have to remind me.

2033
02:44:15,300 --> 02:44:19,780
Nope. And as part of doing that, there are some things

2034
02:44:21,380 --> 02:44:24,260
coming that will be good upgrades. I heard back from David.

2035
02:44:25,140 --> 02:44:28,900
He said, pretty insane, $17,000 after fees and shipping.

2036
02:44:28,900 --> 02:44:31,940
So even without giving away some of his cool pieces,

2037
02:44:31,940 --> 02:44:37,700
or not giving away, but even without auctioning some of his cool pieces, he's still way up on what he spent on his

2038
02:44:37,700 --> 02:44:41,060
collection. Okay. So he is up. Savvy buyer. He's up.

2039
02:44:41,060 --> 02:44:43,620
Savvy buyer. Very cool. Yeah. Good for him.

2040
02:44:45,140 --> 02:44:47,460
Yeah. Yeah.

2041
02:44:53,060 --> 02:44:56,420
All right. Yeah. After dark.

2042
02:44:56,420 --> 02:44:59,860
It's already after dark. You're after dark. You're doing it. You're doing it.

2043
02:44:59,860 --> 02:45:05,620
Your face is after dark. Got him. Yeah. Yeah. I'm going to read you a merge message now.

2044
02:45:05,620 --> 02:45:10,020
Hi, old date. Last week was the first WAN Show I've missed since 2019.

2045
02:45:10,020 --> 02:45:13,060
Wow. Because I'm weak. You're weak. Because I was going to marry you. Oh.

2046
02:45:13,060 --> 02:45:17,620
How could you let that happen? I read ahead. That's why it was. I know. I should have scheduled the wedding.

2047
02:45:17,620 --> 02:45:20,740
Yeah. That seems like you're really on a Friday. Some things in life are important,

2048
02:45:20,740 --> 02:45:24,740
but your partner needs to understand that. Yeah. Why didn't you put it on like a screen mirror?

2049
02:45:24,740 --> 02:45:27,620
You were on the streak. Now you're off the streak. Yeah. Weak.

2050
02:45:28,340 --> 02:45:31,700
Yeah. You're not a streak anymore. You're a stain.

2051
02:45:32,260 --> 02:45:36,100
A stain on this show. Yeah. On this institution. I suggest you let that marinate.

2052
02:45:39,460 --> 02:45:43,540
OK, sorry. What was this? Oh, OK. Right. What's your favorite memory from your wedding?

2053
02:45:43,540 --> 02:45:48,740
We were just busy berating you. Oh, I'm sorry. Why are you two divorcing each other?

2054
02:45:48,740 --> 02:45:52,100
You missed WAN Show. You missed WAN Show. I guess you can't live with this, man.

2055
02:45:53,860 --> 02:45:55,220
He's intolerable ever since.

2056
02:45:56,900 --> 02:46:02,260
OK, hold on. We're going to come back to this for a second. You had me put Letter Kenny on my Plex server.

2057
02:46:02,260 --> 02:46:05,700
Yeah. I watched a few episodes.

2058
02:46:06,660 --> 02:46:10,260
I didn't think you'd get it at all. I never suggested you watch it. I just wanted to watch it.

2059
02:46:10,980 --> 02:46:16,580
OK. You didn't think I'd get it? I mean, there's an entire episode about fart jokes.

2060
02:46:16,580 --> 02:46:19,700
I didn't think you'd necessarily... People sharing their farts with each other.

2061
02:46:19,700 --> 02:46:23,140
Wait, you've watched that far. You like it. I watched three episodes.

2062
02:46:23,140 --> 02:46:28,580
I can't tell if it's like stupid funny or just fucking stupid.

2063
02:46:28,660 --> 02:46:34,340
Like, I just... It's actually great. What I think you might legitimately like more is Shorzy.

2064
02:46:35,540 --> 02:46:39,940
OK. Yeah. I didn't suggest you watch this at all. People said Fartbook is the worst episode.

2065
02:46:39,940 --> 02:46:43,460
Well, that's good because it's not very good. Fartbook was pretty rough.

2066
02:46:44,340 --> 02:46:48,580
OK. It's like super campy, just some dudes in Canada

2067
02:46:48,580 --> 02:46:52,980
doing what they can. Shorzy is better, in my opinion.

2068
02:46:53,780 --> 02:46:58,020
Yeah. OK. Yeah. A lot of people are like, I like Letter Kenny,

2069
02:46:58,020 --> 02:47:01,700
but Shorzy's better. That's for Shorzy's far superior to Letter Kenny.

2070
02:47:01,700 --> 02:47:03,700
If you're going to watch one of them, watch Shorzy.

2071
02:47:05,060 --> 02:47:07,140
All right. Yeah. OK. Anyway.

2072
02:47:08,420 --> 02:47:11,780
But I didn't recommend you watch either. Yeah, I'm just...

2073
02:47:11,780 --> 02:47:17,620
Yeah, I'm just... For me, Letter Kenny was side monitor content.

2074
02:47:17,620 --> 02:47:22,020
OK. That was funny sometimes. OK. Shorzy's actually pretty good.

2075
02:47:22,020 --> 02:47:25,380
OK. All right. So, favorite memory from my wedding.

2076
02:47:28,660 --> 02:47:30,820
It's hard to pick one. Luke wasn't there, so...

2077
02:47:34,900 --> 02:47:37,780
No, that's not because he missed it. He didn't know me yet.

2078
02:47:38,820 --> 02:47:42,020
Favorite memory from my wedding. Yeah, I met you right afterwards.

2079
02:47:42,020 --> 02:47:42,900
I think...

2080
02:47:45,140 --> 02:47:49,300
Man, how do I pick favorite? It's hard. It's such an emotional day.

2081
02:47:49,300 --> 02:47:53,620
It's such a roller coaster. Everything was chaos. We were late for our own...

2082
02:47:55,620 --> 02:47:59,060
I think that's surprisingly common. Yeah, well, like...

2083
02:47:59,060 --> 02:48:03,140
Like the reception, I think you're saying? No, not the reception, the actual ceremony.

2084
02:48:04,500 --> 02:48:08,180
We were slightly late for it. Everyone was already seated and ready to go

2085
02:48:08,180 --> 02:48:12,580
and we rolled in because our wedding day shoot ran a little bit late and like...

2086
02:48:14,340 --> 02:48:19,460
The weather was incredible. We got married in late April

2087
02:48:19,460 --> 02:48:21,060
and we did that because it was cheaper.

2088
02:48:22,900 --> 02:48:26,180
Because as long as you're not in May, the rates are way lower.

2089
02:48:26,740 --> 02:48:30,660
Because the chances of the weather were in Vancouver. So the chances of the weather being good in April

2090
02:48:30,660 --> 02:48:34,900
are hit or miss. And the whole day was on and off showers

2091
02:48:34,900 --> 02:48:38,580
but it was like the skies cleared every time we needed to be outside

2092
02:48:39,220 --> 02:48:43,540
and then it rained the second we needed to go inside. Like it was actually kind of magical.

2093
02:48:43,540 --> 02:48:48,580
That's cool. Like it was sprinkling and then we had our outdoor ceremony

2094
02:48:48,580 --> 02:48:52,740
and then as people were heading inside it started sprinkling again. It was like, wow, this is incredible.

2095
02:48:52,740 --> 02:48:55,380
And then it was clear for our shoot in the morning which was also outside.

2096
02:48:56,500 --> 02:48:58,820
Like the whole thing was just kind of incredible.

2097
02:49:00,420 --> 02:49:03,060
Obviously there's like the moment,

2098
02:49:04,340 --> 02:49:08,660
the wings and she's walking up the aisle and we had bubbles everyone in the audience

2099
02:49:08,660 --> 02:49:11,860
had like bubble blowers. So there was like bubbles everywhere which was really cool.

2100
02:49:16,260 --> 02:49:18,820
Ivan tearing up the dance floor was definitely a highlight.

2101
02:49:20,420 --> 02:49:24,820
That has to be. That's the Ivan that used to work here.

2102
02:49:24,820 --> 02:49:27,380
We were colleagues at NCIX before he worked here.

2103
02:49:30,740 --> 02:49:36,820
Just the like breathing afterward when it was over

2104
02:49:36,820 --> 02:49:40,180
I could see that. And kind of going, I think we threw a really good party.

2105
02:49:40,180 --> 02:49:42,500
You know? I could see that. Because it's kind of like,

2106
02:49:43,300 --> 02:49:46,820
it was the first thing we accomplished as a married couple.

2107
02:49:46,820 --> 02:49:49,220
Sure. Was to throw a hell of a party

2108
02:49:49,940 --> 02:49:55,540
as kind of the way that we saw it because Ivan had like an emotional breakdown

2109
02:49:55,540 --> 02:50:00,340
in the lead up to the wedding. Realizing that she had completely lost control over like,

2110
02:50:00,900 --> 02:50:03,540
you know, what do you mean we're doing it this way? What do you mean we have this now?

2111
02:50:04,100 --> 02:50:07,140
Why are people, I understand the desire to contribute

2112
02:50:07,140 --> 02:50:12,660
but I actually didn't want that there. Don't bring it here. And like, and I basically was like,

2113
02:50:12,660 --> 02:50:15,140
hun, it's not about you.

2114
02:50:17,540 --> 02:50:19,620
Like, yes, this is your wedding but this is,

2115
02:50:20,580 --> 02:50:23,620
but your mom is marrying her first daughter.

2116
02:50:23,620 --> 02:50:28,100
Yeah. There's other stakeholders because she was like,

2117
02:50:28,100 --> 02:50:31,940
I don't even know a lot of these people that are there. And just like, you know, like a lot of,

2118
02:50:31,940 --> 02:50:35,620
yeah, a lot of really tough stuff. So it was basically like, look, here's the deal.

2119
02:50:37,140 --> 02:50:41,300
Let's just go with the flow. And what we're going to do is on a honeymoon,

2120
02:50:41,300 --> 02:50:46,420
we're going to take our wedding finery. And we're just going to, what about second ceremony?

2121
02:50:47,220 --> 02:50:50,980
With just you and me and a witness and we'll like, we'll have someone over.

2122
02:50:50,980 --> 02:50:54,340
We'll do the, we'll do the donkey ride through the town.

2123
02:50:54,340 --> 02:50:59,140
We'll do a new, we'll do a new wedding photo shoot. We'll do, we'll, we're just going,

2124
02:50:59,140 --> 02:51:03,620
it's not going to have any legal significance or anything. We'll sign the documents at home, obviously.

2125
02:51:03,620 --> 02:51:09,940
But if that will allow us to just detach from this and just

2126
02:51:11,060 --> 02:51:16,100
have fun with whatever it is and, and lose control a little bit of, of the details.

2127
02:51:16,100 --> 02:51:20,020
And then it, and then it won't matter if, you know, the,

2128
02:51:20,020 --> 02:51:24,420
the, we don't have enough cake or if we, or if someone is

2129
02:51:24,420 --> 02:51:27,620
unable to, or if we don't, we never got to eat the food.

2130
02:51:28,180 --> 02:51:31,460
We just, we had so many people there because,

2131
02:51:31,460 --> 02:51:35,940
because our families wanted to invite people that we didn't even know, but we went around and, you know,

2132
02:51:36,500 --> 02:51:40,740
had FaceTime with everyone, which back then meant seeing people face to face, not using your phone.

2133
02:51:41,700 --> 02:51:44,900
So we, we, we were able to

2134
02:51:47,460 --> 02:51:53,220
just throw a party and enjoy everyone else enjoying it and us

2135
02:51:53,220 --> 02:51:58,100
enjoying that and enjoying parts ourselves. And like there was stuff that we just weren't that into,

2136
02:51:58,100 --> 02:52:02,820
like some of the first dance stuff and, you know, that other people, it was really important to other people

2137
02:52:02,820 --> 02:52:07,300
for tradition and stuff. And then so, so before we had this sort of frame of mind

2138
02:52:07,300 --> 02:52:09,860
change, that was causing a lot of stress.

2139
02:52:10,500 --> 02:52:14,500
And I was like, look, the worst thing for this day

2140
02:52:14,500 --> 02:52:20,900
is for it to cause stress. Oh yeah. That is not what anybody will benefit from.

2141
02:52:20,900 --> 02:52:25,220
And I think the, the approach of like, we'll just do it

2142
02:52:25,220 --> 02:52:28,900
how you want on our own sort of version of it thing.

2143
02:52:28,900 --> 02:52:35,460
If you can afford to do that, I think that's super sick because then yeah, I think it helps release some of the

2144
02:52:35,460 --> 02:52:39,300
pent up like, cause some people, they wait for that for their entire life.

2145
02:52:39,300 --> 02:52:42,100
So like if anything is slightly off, they're going to

2146
02:52:43,140 --> 02:52:46,500
go crazy over it. So being able to let go of that is cool.

2147
02:52:46,500 --> 02:52:49,780
Crystal says, yikes, shouldn't a wedding be about the couple?

2148
02:52:49,780 --> 02:52:55,220
Sure. In theory. In practice, the world is, the world is never that clean.

2149
02:52:55,220 --> 02:52:59,460
Yeah. It's just not that clean. And at a certain point.

2150
02:52:59,460 --> 02:53:02,580
And you can, you can fight for that. Cause sure enough, that's true, but you can fight for that,

2151
02:53:02,580 --> 02:53:07,380
but it's going to be a fight. Yeah. And you can have lines like you, you can absolutely have

2152
02:53:07,380 --> 02:53:10,500
boundaries, but at the end of the day,

2153
02:53:13,460 --> 02:53:16,100
are you willing to damage a relationship over it?

2154
02:53:16,980 --> 02:53:20,180
What is a wedding? Maybe depends on the thing.

2155
02:53:20,180 --> 02:53:23,700
Yeah. But is it worth it?

2156
02:53:24,340 --> 02:53:28,500
Depends on the thing. That's the question you got to ask yourself. Yeah. You got to ask yourself, is it worth it?

2157
02:53:28,500 --> 02:53:32,020
I'm trying to think of my, my brother's wedding.

2158
02:53:32,020 --> 02:53:36,100
My brother's wedding went fantastically well, but I can

2159
02:53:36,180 --> 02:53:41,540
think of a range of things that could have happened that I, I probably would have like shielded him from needing to burn bridges,

2160
02:53:41,540 --> 02:53:45,300
but I would have burnt bridges with ferocity.

2161
02:53:46,340 --> 02:53:49,460
And like it's just it, you know, if certain things happen,

2162
02:53:50,820 --> 02:53:55,940
you have to dispense. There's that boundary line that you're talking about, but there's, there's some amount of flexibility that you can have as well.

2163
02:53:56,580 --> 02:54:03,620
Yeah. I mean, and to be clear, like, you know, we were lucky. We didn't have anyone get totally wasted and say something completely inappropriate or

2164
02:54:03,620 --> 02:54:07,380
whatever. Like it was never, it was nothing like that. It was just preference things.

2165
02:54:07,380 --> 02:54:12,500
And so you got to, you got to ask yourself, is my preference really worth this fight?

2166
02:54:13,300 --> 02:54:18,260
Does it actually really matter? You might also at the exact same time that that's happening,

2167
02:54:18,260 --> 02:54:22,900
start questioning why this thing with that person would need to be a fight.

2168
02:54:22,900 --> 02:54:26,820
And you can, you can kind of like strategically reposition these relationships as you go,

2169
02:54:26,820 --> 02:54:30,740
but it might not be worth having that battle, but you have to kind of keep in mind

2170
02:54:30,740 --> 02:54:34,500
that that person brought it to that point. Trouble, but love it.

2171
02:54:34,500 --> 02:54:40,500
My wife and I eloped a few months before the wedding, because we'd already lost so much control to her parents who were paying for it.

2172
02:54:40,500 --> 02:54:47,620
We went into our big wedding then with so little stress, because at that point it was just a regular party with a little recreation at the beginning.

2173
02:54:47,620 --> 02:54:51,220
That's cool. And if you play your cards right, there's some recreation at the end too.

2174
02:54:53,860 --> 02:54:56,260
Yeah, that's cool. I like that.

2175
02:54:57,300 --> 02:55:05,940
Yeah. SupLTT, live in a closet guy here again.

2176
02:55:05,940 --> 02:55:11,700
Nice. I bought PSVR2 as for content consumption without a PS5,

2177
02:55:11,700 --> 02:55:14,900
minus if you tried PSVR2 on PC yet, thoughts.

2178
02:55:14,900 --> 02:55:17,540
Also is merge messages end-to-end encrypted?

2179
02:55:20,580 --> 02:55:26,180
Given we're going to read them out, I think it's irrelevant, but I think they're just asking

2180
02:55:26,180 --> 02:55:29,300
silly questions. Am I a chat? I'll comment here.

2181
02:55:29,300 --> 02:55:32,340
I'm sure you can answer, but yeah. Am I quantum computer safe?

2182
02:55:33,620 --> 02:55:36,660
I haven't. No. I haven't tried PSVR2 on PC yet.

2183
02:55:36,660 --> 02:55:41,540
I probably should play around with it, but yeah, it's a good headset.

2184
02:55:42,500 --> 02:55:46,340
The fact that you need the adapter kind of harms the value of the price a little bit.

2185
02:55:46,340 --> 02:55:50,740
I kind of wish you didn't, but it seems like a pretty good play.

2186
02:55:50,740 --> 02:55:54,900
It seems like a pretty good play. I didn't get it. Insomniac and Chat pointed it out.

2187
02:55:54,900 --> 02:55:56,420
He's memeing on the telegram subject.

2188
02:56:00,420 --> 02:56:04,420
Luke was immediately ready to defend his platform. He's had a hard week.

2189
02:56:04,420 --> 02:56:06,580
We can make it worse. He's had a hard week.

2190
02:56:09,540 --> 02:56:13,860
We can make it worse. There's still time. Okay, let's see.

2191
02:56:13,860 --> 02:56:18,740
Hey, Luke and Dan, as infrastructure guys, are there any benefits to my job's work

2192
02:56:18,740 --> 02:56:23,140
from home practice of having us remote into PCs on our desk at the office

2193
02:56:23,140 --> 02:56:26,500
instead of virtualized PCs on the company servers?

2194
02:56:30,340 --> 02:56:34,180
If they are relatively unsophisticated, then there could be.

2195
02:56:35,700 --> 02:56:40,100
If everything is set up properly, there should be no reason that you can't just

2196
02:56:41,300 --> 02:56:48,180
use your system at home and remote into a virtualized PC from there.

2197
02:56:48,180 --> 02:56:55,540
Yeah, it depends on the security level of the things you're dealing with. And sometimes, like if it's dumb and it works, it's not dumb.

2198
02:56:56,660 --> 02:57:02,580
And if everything is just set up and then they just don't have to change anything

2199
02:57:02,580 --> 02:57:05,700
and don't have to figure anything out if you just remote into your workstation.

2200
02:57:09,140 --> 02:57:13,700
Yeah, that's probably fine. Again, though, it depends on the security level of the things you're dealing with.

2201
02:57:15,700 --> 02:57:18,820
Editing videos like- Sure. Okay. Do whatever.

2202
02:57:18,820 --> 02:57:23,860
Yeah, pretty much. But there's other things that wouldn't be good.

2203
02:57:26,820 --> 02:57:33,060
Sinus, Lake and Man. You have talked about poor search engine algorithm functions recently.

2204
02:57:33,060 --> 02:57:38,420
Your thoughts on YouTube shadow suppressing a video and claiming the algorithm anyway to

2205
02:57:38,420 --> 02:57:44,100
prove or disprove this? Sure, I can prove it. When one of the Paul brothers, I forget which one because they're both the same to me,

2206
02:57:45,300 --> 02:57:48,820
made the Suicide Forest video. Loads.

2207
02:57:48,820 --> 02:57:57,220
Yeah, I wasn't, sure. And YouTube claimed that they weren't suppressing the channel, but they definitely were because

2208
02:57:57,220 --> 02:58:00,980
you could search for exactly the name of the channel and it would be below the fold.

2209
02:58:02,340 --> 02:58:06,980
There, I proved it. Yeah, that was pretty wild. There was absolutely no way that that wasn't a thing.

2210
02:58:08,740 --> 02:58:13,540
Yeah. Yeah, so they definitely, definitely can do that.

2211
02:58:14,100 --> 02:58:21,060
So, okay, cool. Hey, what happened to the thing at the top of the of the Merch message dashboard?

2212
02:58:21,060 --> 02:58:24,260
What about it? Did I leak it too many times and now it doesn't exist anymore?

2213
02:58:24,260 --> 02:58:27,540
No, no, no, it's under partner spots. Did you minimize it? I went down. You probably minimized it.

2214
02:58:27,540 --> 02:58:29,700
Oh, stats. There it is. I accidentally minimized it.

2215
02:58:30,900 --> 02:58:35,220
Oh, wow. You guys pre-ordered a lot of scribe drivers. I've just been, I've been curious all show.

2216
02:58:36,180 --> 02:58:37,220
They're going to be gone again.

2217
02:58:39,540 --> 02:58:43,220
I don't know. Another, another 10,000 of them.

2218
02:58:43,780 --> 02:58:46,820
I don't know, man. Last time, what, they lasted three days? Well, yeah.

2219
02:58:48,340 --> 02:58:52,100
But surely there's a, surely there's a limit to the number of pens people need.

2220
02:58:52,660 --> 02:58:56,820
Like some number, what could it be? Here, hold on. Let me see if I can write it down on your ARM.

2221
02:58:56,820 --> 02:59:02,420
Oh, that was not that easy to get off even.

2222
02:59:04,980 --> 02:59:09,860
And I had to, I had to explain it just like the neck tattoos.

2223
02:59:09,860 --> 02:59:13,220
I forgot it was there and I never like warned Emma.

2224
02:59:13,220 --> 02:59:15,700
So she was like, um, what?

2225
02:59:17,300 --> 02:59:22,420
I think she'd be used to it by now. Sink Plane says. In her defense, it wasn't like she was mad.

2226
02:59:22,420 --> 02:59:25,700
She was just like, what, what's happening? More weird stuff. Okay.

2227
02:59:25,700 --> 02:59:30,180
Yeah. Sink Plane says, please stop selling prime in your venting machines.

2228
02:59:30,900 --> 02:59:34,500
Guys, I said in the video, they're, they're just there.

2229
02:59:34,500 --> 02:59:38,020
They were just in there for testing. I don't know where they came from.

2230
02:59:38,020 --> 02:59:42,100
Probably they just like someone who works there, who doesn't even know who the Paul brothers are.

2231
02:59:42,100 --> 02:59:44,740
Grabbed a bunch of random beverages. Don't worry about it.

2232
02:59:45,540 --> 02:59:49,220
It's fine. Also, they didn't taste that bad. I tried, I tried them.

2233
02:59:49,220 --> 02:59:49,780
They were not bad.

2234
02:59:52,980 --> 02:59:57,940
Luke, is there anything in your fridge or freezer from Nestlé?

2235
02:59:57,940 --> 03:00:00,340
No. Then stop. What? Not a single thing.

2236
03:00:01,860 --> 03:00:04,580
He's lying. It's impossible.

2237
03:00:10,420 --> 03:00:13,140
Maybe that I didn't buy. There, there we go.

2238
03:00:16,180 --> 03:00:19,380
Anything from any of these brands?

2239
03:00:20,180 --> 03:00:23,380
So far, no. No arrowhead crackers? Nope.

2240
03:00:24,020 --> 03:00:26,580
Oh, no arrowroot. I was thinking of arrowroot. I'm looking too.

2241
03:00:30,980 --> 03:00:34,980
With this baby, I'm not going to have that one. I'm not going to have bottled water.

2242
03:00:35,620 --> 03:00:38,340
Uh, go to the, go to the cereal section really quick. It's top right.

2243
03:00:39,220 --> 03:00:42,420
Nope. None of those. Okay. All right.

2244
03:00:42,420 --> 03:00:45,620
I'm safe too. Any of this? No. Is this all candy bars?

2245
03:00:45,620 --> 03:00:48,660
Cause just no. Okay. All right. Is it all candy bars? Yeah.

2246
03:00:48,660 --> 03:00:51,940
Okay. So none of those. I don't drink coffee. You don't drink coffee. Okay. Hold on.

2247
03:00:51,940 --> 03:00:55,060
Go to this. DiGiorno?

2248
03:00:55,060 --> 03:00:58,260
No, I don't have any of that stuff. Well, I, I don't know. Anything from Libby's?

2249
03:00:58,260 --> 03:01:01,540
I didn't know Maggie was owned by Nestlé. Jeez.

2250
03:01:02,180 --> 03:01:05,460
You want to know the cheat code to this? Why I'm pretty sure I'm not. I don't know.

2251
03:01:05,460 --> 03:01:08,980
I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Cheat code to this? Why I'm pretty sure I'm, I'm right?

2252
03:01:08,980 --> 03:01:11,220
Why? Cause I eat chicken rice.

2253
03:01:12,020 --> 03:01:15,060
Yeah. Let's find out. And you have a Maggie's like a seasoning.

2254
03:01:15,060 --> 03:01:18,180
It's like MSG and brown. Oh, seasoning.

2255
03:01:18,180 --> 03:01:21,220
That's going to be, I don't, I mean. That's what was really surprising.

2256
03:01:21,220 --> 03:01:23,300
None of that particularly. No, none of those. Keep going.

2257
03:01:24,580 --> 03:01:27,700
I don't have meal replacements. This looks like meal replacements. No. Okay.

2258
03:01:27,700 --> 03:01:31,060
All right. Healthier and healthier version. Ice cream. Okay. Pet care.

2259
03:01:31,060 --> 03:01:34,340
No. Anything from Purina?

2260
03:01:34,340 --> 03:01:38,580
Purina for me. I think. I didn't know that was Nestle.

2261
03:01:38,580 --> 03:01:41,620
I, I got Purina one. But no, yeah, I think. Cool.

2262
03:01:41,620 --> 03:01:44,420
I'm throwing that out and the cat. Cause it's touched Nestle now.

2263
03:01:45,540 --> 03:01:50,980
New cat. New cat. Oh my goodness. My point, my point is just that if you're gonna,

2264
03:01:52,340 --> 03:01:57,060
if you're going to be like, no, you can't. No, my, my problem isn't even who it's supporting.

2265
03:01:57,060 --> 03:02:00,660
Sure. My problem is that it has hydration claims that are not

2266
03:02:02,020 --> 03:02:05,220
based on the ingredients, not good. Sure.

2267
03:02:05,220 --> 03:02:08,500
Yeah. I didn't say it was good for you. I said it tastes good. Yeah.

2268
03:02:08,500 --> 03:02:12,180
I'm sure it probably does. It just doesn't really do the thing that it's trying to

2269
03:02:12,180 --> 03:02:15,780
publicly accomplish. Yeah. That's fair enough. I mean, that's my only like, Does Gatorade.

2270
03:02:15,780 --> 03:02:18,900
Should we carry Gatorade? Actually, I think Gatorade is pretty good.

2271
03:02:18,900 --> 03:02:24,420
It has a lot of sugar in it, but it does have a significant amount of hydration stuff in it.

2272
03:02:24,420 --> 03:02:28,100
It has good salts and things. Now, who are they?

2273
03:02:28,100 --> 03:02:31,860
Are they Pepsi? I don't know. Is Powerade is Pepsi?

2274
03:02:31,860 --> 03:02:34,900
I think Gatorade is Coke. PepsiCo. And like, it's a Powerade Coke.

2275
03:02:35,700 --> 03:02:39,780
So many food brands are like so bad.

2276
03:02:39,780 --> 03:02:42,900
I'm not trying to take that stance. There's no part of me that's like,

2277
03:02:43,460 --> 03:02:47,140
Logan Paul is more evil than Nestle or whatever else. I don't care about that.

2278
03:02:47,140 --> 03:02:51,380
That's whatever. Wait, how do you even know about the prime in the...

2279
03:02:52,580 --> 03:02:56,660
I didn't know that. Oh, how do they know about the...

2280
03:02:56,660 --> 03:03:00,020
I have no idea. What? What's going on here? Was it a video or a picture or something?

2281
03:03:00,020 --> 03:03:03,300
It's in a video that's coming out. I think it's a picture on the Facebook page.

2282
03:03:03,300 --> 03:03:07,380
Perhaps. So much the food theory video.

2283
03:03:07,380 --> 03:03:12,820
I didn't actually. But I'm sure it's probably pretty good.

2284
03:03:12,820 --> 03:03:16,660
Here it is. Oh, that's right. No, we talked about it.

2285
03:03:16,660 --> 03:03:19,540
Okay. So the video is coming.

2286
03:03:21,940 --> 03:03:23,700
Smash Champ's August update.

2287
03:03:25,540 --> 03:03:32,180
Unreleased content on Wansho. A leak from the chief vision officer.

2288
03:03:32,420 --> 03:03:35,540
This could be a problem in a sec. What did you just do?

2289
03:03:36,820 --> 03:03:39,780
Don't worry about it. Oh, yeah.

2290
03:03:40,820 --> 03:03:47,460
Safe. As a University of Florida. Got him. As a University of Florida hands off our Gatorade,

2291
03:03:47,460 --> 03:03:53,540
but you don't want to sell things. Also, you're a single unit of University of Florida.

2292
03:03:53,540 --> 03:03:58,020
Boom, got him. Anyway, so yeah, this is going to be a really great video.

2293
03:03:58,020 --> 03:04:01,300
It starts with Dan getting an error

2294
03:04:01,300 --> 03:04:05,060
when he tries to let me into the building. Oh, this is one where it all goes wrong constantly.

2295
03:04:05,060 --> 03:04:09,700
Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's going to be really good. You guys are really going to enjoy it, but you're going to enjoy it when we release it, not now.

2296
03:04:11,060 --> 03:04:14,580
I get to play, I get to play some badminton. We show the court cameras.

2297
03:04:14,580 --> 03:04:17,620
You got to play badminton like four times because I'm incompetent. Sorry.

2298
03:04:18,260 --> 03:04:23,060
Yeah, Dan needed me to do a lot of takes of this because he kept not actually recording the take.

2299
03:04:23,060 --> 03:04:26,820
It had been set up for four hours. That's funny. I had never tested that.

2300
03:04:26,820 --> 03:04:30,180
That's funny. So that was, that was pretty exciting.

2301
03:04:31,380 --> 03:04:34,500
Okay, wait for it. Oh, that did make it in.

2302
03:04:34,500 --> 03:04:37,700
Cool. Yeah, of course it made it in. Nice. Oh, yeah.

2303
03:04:37,700 --> 03:04:40,820
Is this legitimately unlisted, by the way? Nope.

2304
03:04:40,820 --> 03:04:44,660
It's private now. Cool. All right. So that's what you did. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I said it's private already.

2305
03:04:44,660 --> 03:04:48,340
Nice, nice, nice, nice, nice. Don't you even worry I got you.

2306
03:04:48,340 --> 03:04:48,740
Very good.

2307
03:04:51,860 --> 03:04:55,300
Anyway, what are we talking about? You're going to answer another merge message. Oh, yeah, hit me.

2308
03:04:55,860 --> 03:04:59,220
Hey, D to the LL. In terms of scalability,

2309
03:04:59,220 --> 03:05:03,460
do you see WAN Show growing bigger with other hosts or production value,

2310
03:05:03,460 --> 03:05:13,460
or do you enjoy it being just the three of you? No, it's, it's, I can't think of a production

2311
03:05:13,460 --> 03:05:17,140
at Linus Media Group that has gotten less support for expanding

2312
03:05:17,700 --> 03:05:21,620
from me than the WAN Show. It's all held together back here with rubber bands and paper.

2313
03:05:21,620 --> 03:05:22,420
Look at our set.

2314
03:05:25,140 --> 03:05:28,660
Like seriously, it's, it's not good. It's a wall.

2315
03:05:28,660 --> 03:05:33,700
There's so many wrinkles on this. I don't even, I'm not even talking about the quality of the wall.

2316
03:05:33,700 --> 03:05:38,660
I'm just like, look at the. Go watch five seconds of the yard and then come back.

2317
03:05:38,660 --> 03:05:41,860
I don't know. At this view, it looks great. Look at the space we dedicate.

2318
03:05:41,860 --> 03:05:46,020
That's sick. Dude. Dude, he's got a human organ bag behind him.

2319
03:05:46,020 --> 03:05:49,540
And then, and then we go to Linus's. Oh, second wall.

2320
03:05:51,620 --> 03:05:58,820
Hold on, hold on. What about, what about random merge? There, boom.

2321
03:05:58,820 --> 03:06:02,100
Nice. There. Set that. Nice. Blurry merge. Set decoration, blurry merge.

2322
03:06:02,100 --> 03:06:08,260
Nice. Blurge. Uh, I think if you poured too much production value into WAN,

2323
03:06:08,260 --> 03:06:11,380
it would get significantly worse. Yeah.

2324
03:06:11,380 --> 03:06:17,620
I feel that very strongly. I support Luke's viewpoint because I don't want to spend anything on WAN.

2325
03:06:17,620 --> 03:06:20,980
Yeah, but also like, dude, if you, if you try to make the,

2326
03:06:20,980 --> 03:06:24,340
the like the news sections more structured or even more planned out,

2327
03:06:24,340 --> 03:06:28,740
it's just going to get worse. Yeah. People want it to go off the rails.

2328
03:06:28,740 --> 03:06:31,620
People like it being fun, including me.

2329
03:06:32,500 --> 03:06:35,860
Speaking of off rails, you guys were noticing this last week.

2330
03:06:35,860 --> 03:06:36,740
I have some bad news.

2331
03:06:40,020 --> 03:06:44,020
There's a little line in it. It's so minute.

2332
03:06:44,980 --> 03:06:49,940
You're probably not going to be able to see it, but basically where the plastic flows in,

2333
03:06:50,980 --> 03:06:54,900
where's the gate on this piece of the mold? I think it's actually at the bottom with the gate.

2334
03:06:54,900 --> 03:06:58,180
So, oh, sorry. Well, the gates where the plastic shoots into the mold.

2335
03:06:58,820 --> 03:07:05,700
I think it's on this side. Anyway, the point is that where the plastic flows and meets on the flat of the screwdriver,

2336
03:07:05,700 --> 03:07:11,940
there's a little line that looks like a scratch down the two of the three flat sides.

2337
03:07:11,940 --> 03:07:14,980
And the only reason it doesn't show on the one flat side is because that's where

2338
03:07:15,780 --> 03:07:18,900
the two halves of the mold meets. So there's already a line there. There's already a seam,

2339
03:07:18,900 --> 03:07:22,420
but it basically just looks like a little scratch here and a little scratch here.

2340
03:07:22,420 --> 03:07:24,740
But the problem is that the scratch goes all the way through.

2341
03:07:25,700 --> 03:07:31,460
So you can never get rid of it. It's there and it just looks like it's scratched out of the box.

2342
03:07:31,460 --> 03:07:33,860
And that's why transparent screwdriver is

2343
03:07:37,540 --> 03:07:40,100
not dead, but certainly not happening anytime soon.

2344
03:07:42,500 --> 03:07:47,540
It looks really cool. Yeah. I wouldn't mind the little line,

2345
03:07:47,540 --> 03:07:53,700
but the problem is we can say that and WAN chat can say that.

2346
03:07:54,260 --> 03:07:58,660
And then some users going to get it and see the line and ARMA it.

2347
03:07:58,660 --> 03:08:01,940
And then we're going to say, no, we had it disclaimed on the product page and they're

2348
03:08:01,940 --> 03:08:05,300
going to say, but what about the trust me, bro guarantee? And I'm going to not want to deal with that.

2349
03:08:05,860 --> 03:08:09,220
Yep. So product doesn't get released. Yep. So it goes.

2350
03:08:10,740 --> 03:08:14,260
Hey, Linus, missed the days of needing a PCI card for everything

2351
03:08:14,260 --> 03:08:17,380
because I could have a cool computer with all the gadgets.

2352
03:08:17,380 --> 03:08:22,420
Nice. We're going to get that now a day. What else has that nerdy customization energy?

2353
03:08:22,420 --> 03:08:25,460
Framework, laptop, investment, disclosure. Old cars.

2354
03:08:25,460 --> 03:08:28,900
You can get all kinds of cool like modules and stuff.

2355
03:08:28,900 --> 03:08:33,780
Whether you need them or not. I don't know. Well, that's up to you, but you can definitely get them.

2356
03:08:34,980 --> 03:08:40,500
What else? What else has that get a modular synth and then not be able to afford anything ever again?

2357
03:08:47,620 --> 03:08:52,260
Oh, you're supposed to use it for the work and you're supposed to bill people

2358
03:08:52,260 --> 03:08:55,540
properly for the work so that you can afford the modular synth.

2359
03:08:55,540 --> 03:08:58,340
It's supposed to be a return on investment. You didn't buy music for me.

2360
03:08:59,060 --> 03:09:02,420
You don't know how much that costs. Okay.

2361
03:09:02,420 --> 03:09:05,380
Do you bill those hours a lot more than you tried to bill me?

2362
03:09:06,740 --> 03:09:12,020
You bought a service. Okay. Yeah, but it's, it all comes down to hours, Dan.

2363
03:09:13,620 --> 03:09:23,140
It all comes down to hours and expertise. You have to bill the hours appropriate for the level of expertise and for the, and for the-

2364
03:09:23,140 --> 03:09:30,260
How is this fight still going on? Because Dan hasn't internalized that he lost yet.

2365
03:09:30,820 --> 03:09:34,980
That he lost? Because you have to account for the sporadicness of the work.

2366
03:09:35,700 --> 03:09:39,780
So the level of expertise and how feast and famine it is, you got to account for that.

2367
03:09:39,780 --> 03:09:42,900
You got to have smoothing in your billing.

2368
03:09:43,860 --> 03:09:46,500
You got to smooth over the parts where it's the famine

2369
03:09:47,460 --> 03:09:50,420
with the feast and the cats to protect the granary.

2370
03:09:51,460 --> 03:09:56,420
That's why I have so many of them. This is good advice. You should, if you do freelance, listen to this.

2371
03:09:57,460 --> 03:10:00,740
No, that's true. I can't tell if he's mocking me or not.

2372
03:10:00,740 --> 03:10:07,380
No, I'm not. I'm going to look at his face. I'm not mocking you. Keep the tone up and keep talking about this subject and then just sell courses.

2373
03:10:09,700 --> 03:10:12,740
Dude, I could make so much money selling courses. Infinite money.

2374
03:10:12,820 --> 03:10:16,100
Dude, it doesn't, no offense. It doesn't look that hard.

2375
03:10:16,100 --> 03:10:23,060
Yeah, I could do the music for them. Colton's been trying to get me to do a course for literal years, literal years.

2376
03:10:24,100 --> 03:10:27,300
Yeah, literally. Yeah, I keep telling him.

2377
03:10:27,300 --> 03:10:32,500
I'm like, nobody should buy a course from me. Everything that I am an expert on, I should give away for free.

2378
03:10:32,500 --> 03:10:35,220
So I don't know, I give up.

2379
03:10:36,020 --> 03:10:42,580
But then he always says, no, people would pay for it. And I'm like, yeah, but like, then it would have to be really good.

2380
03:10:42,900 --> 03:10:45,540
I think that's part of it. I get like anxiety.

2381
03:10:46,420 --> 03:10:52,180
Like if it didn't have to, if it could just be like generic nonsense, but like with really high energy, I could do that so easy.

2382
03:10:52,180 --> 03:10:57,060
Oh yeah, but that's what most of them are. I know that, but I just, I couldn't take pride in that work.

2383
03:10:57,060 --> 03:11:01,140
No, I'm not saying you should actually do it. I'm saying if you did do it, you'd rake in the cash.

2384
03:11:01,140 --> 03:11:05,860
Dude, you know what I would be the best at though? Yeah, the right tone and stuff. You know what I would be the best at?

2385
03:11:06,500 --> 03:11:10,260
Is a televangelist. Oh yeah. I could crush that. That's what you were built for.

2386
03:11:10,260 --> 03:11:14,580
Dude, it's so easy. Told you, cult. Dude, why won't you listen?

2387
03:11:15,220 --> 03:11:18,020
It looks so easy. Why the tech town, dude? Yeah.

2388
03:11:18,740 --> 03:11:23,460
You're, you're, you're basically just like a, a well, well-kempt beggar.

2389
03:11:24,820 --> 03:11:32,340
And you just like, you just, man, dude, I went, I went to church a lot of times in my life.

2390
03:11:32,340 --> 03:11:37,220
Okay. Do you know how easy it is to just crack open that book?

2391
03:11:37,220 --> 03:11:41,700
Read literally like two sentences. I could told, I could 100%.

2392
03:11:41,700 --> 03:11:46,660
You don't even have to do the work anymore. You can just pop it in chat GPT. Just be like, write a sermon about this.

2393
03:11:46,660 --> 03:11:49,300
Because the message is usually only like five to 10 minutes.

2394
03:11:50,020 --> 03:11:53,540
Dude, easy. I could do it. No problem. I'm ready.

2395
03:11:53,540 --> 03:11:56,020
I wonder if pastors are using chat GPT. Oh, a hundred percent.

2396
03:11:56,660 --> 03:11:59,700
A hundred percent. Probably. No, we, we actually talked about it on windshow before.

2397
03:11:59,700 --> 03:12:05,780
Oh yeah. Or there's like, yeah, I need like a, I need a Sunday message about like forgiveness, whatever.

2398
03:12:06,660 --> 03:12:10,260
And chat GPT will just be like, yeah, sure. This, this, this and this.

2399
03:12:10,260 --> 03:12:12,900
Dude, crazy. Nice. Yeah.

2400
03:12:16,660 --> 03:12:20,820
Jesus.ai, I'm afraid to click this, but I'm going to do it. It's just shrimp.

2401
03:12:20,820 --> 03:12:21,540
I'm clicking it.

2402
03:12:25,700 --> 03:12:28,980
Yeah, get out of there. Not a good site. Don't go there.

2403
03:12:28,980 --> 03:12:32,660
Yeah, get out of there. Also, you might be, you might be banned now.

2404
03:12:34,660 --> 03:12:35,860
At least getting a little time out.

2405
03:12:39,380 --> 03:12:42,660
There. Yikes. Don't go to that site.

2406
03:12:43,460 --> 03:12:48,980
Hey, LLD. Thoughts on computers going through the same fate as what GPUs did going from

2407
03:12:48,980 --> 03:12:55,780
upgradable to un-upgradable and the backlash Lunar Lake is getting on not supporting upgradable.

2408
03:12:55,780 --> 03:12:58,260
You tweeted this at me. I literally replied to you.

2409
03:13:00,820 --> 03:13:05,300
They really liked their question. I am sorry. I don't read your Twitter. No, no, no, no, no, no, that person.

2410
03:13:05,300 --> 03:13:08,980
No, I know. I know. No, well, no, the answer. Then I duplicated the message.

2411
03:13:08,980 --> 03:13:12,020
No, the answer was that we made that video. Hold on.

2412
03:13:12,020 --> 03:13:16,180
Hold on. Well, maybe they just want everyone to, maybe they just want. They think they have a great question.

2413
03:13:16,180 --> 03:13:18,660
They want, they want it answered in front of more people.

2414
03:13:19,380 --> 03:13:24,660
Yeah. So we, we made this, we made this video, the one and only Emily Young here.

2415
03:13:24,660 --> 03:13:26,260
Okay. I just posted it in the chat.

2416
03:13:28,580 --> 03:13:33,380
Wish nothing but the best for her, by the way. So yeah, we made this video.

2417
03:13:33,380 --> 03:13:36,500
Build a PC while you still can. They're changing whether we like it or not.

2418
03:13:36,500 --> 03:13:38,580
They're not going to be upgradable forever.

2419
03:13:40,020 --> 03:13:46,500
All right. What's next? When.dlll with the FTC finally waking up to the monopolies of Google, Apple,

2420
03:13:46,500 --> 03:13:50,180
Meta, et cetera, and the EU pushing for stronger regulation.

2421
03:13:50,180 --> 03:13:54,580
How does this end? Just more fines or is something bigger coming?

2422
03:13:54,580 --> 03:13:55,700
Some breakups maybe.

2423
03:13:57,860 --> 03:14:03,860
I mean, Which could be good. Yeah. I think it could probably be a good thing if some of these tech giants were broken up.

2424
03:14:03,860 --> 03:14:08,340
Apple's a funny one because it's a bit of a weird one though because they don't have that many products.

2425
03:14:08,340 --> 03:14:11,460
China's getting into the tech giant game. Yeah.

2426
03:14:11,460 --> 03:14:16,660
So if you break up, they're not going to break them up. Yep. So if you break up all the American companies and make them less competitive,

2427
03:14:18,100 --> 03:14:20,580
that's a little weird. It's a little weird.

2428
03:14:24,580 --> 03:14:27,620
I'm not sure what to do there. Yeah.

2429
03:14:27,620 --> 03:14:33,140
Because they're already going. It seems pretty clear to me at least that they're going with a

2430
03:14:35,460 --> 03:14:38,100
similar model to a lot of their other business where they're like,

2431
03:14:38,740 --> 03:14:44,900
we're pretty good, but we do everything and we're cheaper. So it's going to be a good decision for a lot of different companies.

2432
03:14:47,700 --> 03:14:53,620
So if you break the other companies apart so they're less feature competitive and they're

2433
03:14:53,620 --> 03:14:58,580
also still more expensive, then yikes, that gets really rough.

2434
03:15:00,740 --> 03:15:05,220
Hey Linus, I'm opening an entertainment slash sports venue in October.

2435
03:15:05,940 --> 03:15:10,100
I'm curious what kinds of ideas you have for your badminton grand opening.

2436
03:15:10,100 --> 03:15:12,740
And if there's anything you really want to do, but can't.

2437
03:15:13,380 --> 03:15:15,780
We're kind of going to keep it small, I think.

2438
03:15:17,060 --> 03:15:24,820
Like we're at our capacity. We're designed for like six times 14, like 28 times three.

2439
03:15:25,780 --> 03:15:30,420
I don't know, whatever that works out to. So like 85 people, right?

2440
03:15:30,420 --> 03:15:33,700
So we don't want like 500 people there.

2441
03:15:34,660 --> 03:15:41,700
No matter what kind of grand opening it is. So we were kind of thinking like a hot dog barbecue in the parking lot.

2442
03:15:41,700 --> 03:15:46,100
Like, and you can come check it out. It's only hot dogs rated.

2443
03:15:51,140 --> 03:15:53,860
I didn't say what kind of hot dogs. They could have hamburger meat in them, okay.

2444
03:15:56,820 --> 03:16:00,260
Oh man, that's pretty good. Sorry. It was fast.

2445
03:16:00,260 --> 03:16:00,820
I'm sorry.

2446
03:16:04,180 --> 03:16:08,020
Next up. Yeah. So I think we're going to do a pretty, we're going to do a pretty small thing.

2447
03:16:08,020 --> 03:16:12,100
So I don't really get rated. I don't really have big plans. Yeah. Well, what about them?

2448
03:16:12,100 --> 03:16:15,380
That's scary. Well, they might just have to leave.

2449
03:16:15,940 --> 03:16:18,980
Like we don't have any parking for like a whole bunch of people.

2450
03:16:20,100 --> 03:16:24,580
So it is what it is. You might need to almost like security it.

2451
03:16:25,620 --> 03:16:30,820
I'd be like, sorry, too many beeps because I'm worried about the city's reaction

2452
03:16:30,820 --> 03:16:33,940
if it gets a little out of control. Well, theoretically, they'll be there.

2453
03:16:34,900 --> 03:16:39,780
Yeah. We invited the mayor. Yeah. So I'm worried about the city's reaction if it gets out of control.

2454
03:16:42,340 --> 03:16:45,940
I, I'm honestly not that worried about it. Okay.

2455
03:16:45,940 --> 03:16:51,380
Yeah. Don't show up if you're not going to like play badminton.

2456
03:16:51,380 --> 03:16:53,620
Yeah. It's for badminton. That's it. Yeah.

2457
03:16:54,420 --> 03:17:02,740
Hello, WAN.Dill.XE.Bing, so many extra letters.

2458
03:17:02,740 --> 03:17:07,380
When Linus says something, the community eventually comes around to his point of view.

2459
03:17:07,380 --> 03:17:12,260
How much of that is just him bringing attention to something nobody else has noticed?

2460
03:17:12,260 --> 03:17:19,060
A hundred percent. Both the warranty thing and the ad block piracy thing were a hundred percent.

2461
03:17:19,060 --> 03:17:24,180
Just like, this is, don't shoot the messenger.

2462
03:17:24,180 --> 03:17:27,860
The way that you packaged. Sure. The warranty thing.

2463
03:17:27,860 --> 03:17:30,900
Yeah. I'm not denying it. I did a bad job.

2464
03:17:30,900 --> 03:17:35,140
There's always, you know, you taught me about optics. Yeah. The optics on that were real bad.

2465
03:17:35,140 --> 03:17:37,620
Yeah. I did a bad job. Yeah. What are you going to do about it?

2466
03:17:38,180 --> 03:17:42,660
Nothing. Buy something from lttstore.com? Try to buy a screwdriver or a pen.

2467
03:17:42,660 --> 03:17:46,900
Yeah. Look, the thing is like I'm live here, guys.

2468
03:17:46,900 --> 03:17:49,380
I'm a driver. Guys, I'm live.

2469
03:17:50,580 --> 03:17:54,500
Yeah, the warranty one was persistent across a couple of it.

2470
03:17:54,500 --> 03:17:58,500
Yeah, but I was live every time. That's probably fair enough.

2471
03:17:58,500 --> 03:18:07,380
And I'm not perfect. And sometimes I'm in my own narrow viewpoint with the context that I have that other people

2472
03:18:07,380 --> 03:18:10,580
don't necessarily have and that I can't expect them to have.

2473
03:18:10,580 --> 03:18:13,140
But that's pretty obvious to me. Like I get it.

2474
03:18:14,420 --> 03:18:20,580
You've been making content for a long time. There's a ridiculous amount of hours of your face on video.

2475
03:18:20,580 --> 03:18:28,020
Sometimes things are going to be wrong. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, my favorite is, I think my personal favorite is the time we did a WAN Show topic

2476
03:18:28,020 --> 03:18:31,380
where a guy bought a house with Bitcoin and we were like, yeah, but it'll never be used for

2477
03:18:31,380 --> 03:18:37,060
anything real. Because it didn't seem like it would.

2478
03:18:37,060 --> 03:18:42,260
The transaction costs are so high that it's woefully impractical.

2479
03:18:42,260 --> 03:18:45,380
But I think people use it for stuff.

2480
03:18:46,020 --> 03:18:48,740
One day I'll find mine. Nice.

2481
03:18:49,540 --> 03:18:55,540
Oh no. 2009. Bitcoins or dollars or the year when I started.

2482
03:18:55,540 --> 03:18:59,860
Oof, 350. Bitcoins somewhere.

2483
03:19:00,820 --> 03:19:03,860
Somewhere in the world on a hard drive.

2484
03:19:05,380 --> 03:19:08,980
No way, dude. I started right at the beginning.

2485
03:19:08,980 --> 03:19:13,540
No way, dude. Keeps me up at night sometimes. 350 coins.

2486
03:19:13,540 --> 03:19:17,540
Yeah, something like that. I mean, they were, they were like just coins back then.

2487
03:19:17,540 --> 03:19:22,180
You could just, you know, there was hundreds in a block.

2488
03:19:24,500 --> 03:19:26,500
Yikes. This is a random number.

2489
03:19:29,860 --> 03:19:33,940
It's somewhere. Somewhere. You have no idea where.

2490
03:19:33,940 --> 03:19:36,980
Nope. How do you have no idea where?

2491
03:19:37,620 --> 03:19:41,940
It's 2009. So what? I know where drives that I had in 2009 are.

2492
03:19:41,940 --> 03:19:45,700
I have checked all of them. Can I make me weird? I mean, they are written over.

2493
03:19:46,260 --> 03:19:49,620
Oh, so it's probably gone. I have gone through all of them with like

2494
03:19:51,540 --> 03:19:55,700
FBI grade recovery tools looking for blocks and things like that.

2495
03:19:56,340 --> 03:19:59,460
They're somewhere. Somewhere. Bomber.

2496
03:20:00,500 --> 03:20:03,940
One day. They're probably on nice hash.

2497
03:20:06,820 --> 03:20:10,420
I should check. Probably. They're probably not though.

2498
03:20:10,420 --> 03:20:13,620
Couple more. Hey DLL, Luke, any advice on how to handle work

2499
03:20:13,620 --> 03:20:18,660
when your natural workflow involves spikes of productivity that management starts to expect consistent

2500
03:20:18,660 --> 03:20:21,300
levels of productivity equal to your spikes?

2501
03:20:22,100 --> 03:20:22,900
That's pretty tough.

2502
03:20:27,700 --> 03:20:32,660
I don't have any good advice for that. I think I do. Do your best, be open and honest.

2503
03:20:34,180 --> 03:20:37,700
That's all you can really do. Start a communication with your manager about

2504
03:20:38,420 --> 03:20:42,820
overall resulting productivity, not the productivity of every minute.

2505
03:20:44,180 --> 03:20:48,420
And try to find trudge tasks.

2506
03:20:49,220 --> 03:20:53,300
Like tasks that, you know, I don't know, maybe your job is to do.

2507
03:20:53,300 --> 03:20:56,980
Oh yeah, good distraction tasks are good. Yeah. Like when you're distracted anyway.

2508
03:20:56,980 --> 03:21:02,260
Yeah. So like things that you can kind of just get through, like maybe it's email, maybe it's something else,

2509
03:21:02,260 --> 03:21:05,860
where like, you know, this is an annoying task anyways,

2510
03:21:05,860 --> 03:21:10,260
and, you know, maybe you can be, your mind is kind of somewhere else,

2511
03:21:10,260 --> 03:21:14,100
but you'll feel yourself kind of click back in, and then you can get back to the main thing

2512
03:21:14,100 --> 03:21:19,860
you're trying to work on. Like try to do something, even if it's not amazing.

2513
03:21:20,900 --> 03:21:24,020
But yeah, try to show your overall productivity

2514
03:21:24,020 --> 03:21:26,900
over the course of a week or a month or whatever you want to use for your time frame,

2515
03:21:27,620 --> 03:21:32,260
and show that you're still doing well, and just explain, you know, my brain works a little different, something like that.

2516
03:21:32,500 --> 03:21:38,740
This is the second message like this during this WAN Show.

2517
03:21:40,500 --> 03:21:44,100
Go ahead, Dan. Are you sure? I mean, I guess. It's the second one?

2518
03:21:44,100 --> 03:21:47,780
It's the second one. You didn't see the one in Floatplane Chat. No, I didn't.

2519
03:21:49,380 --> 03:21:53,460
The only baby name my wife and I could somewhat agree on

2520
03:21:53,460 --> 03:21:56,500
is for our second baby is Linus.

2521
03:21:56,500 --> 03:22:00,820
I promise it wasn't my idea. Does Linus give his blessing?

2522
03:22:01,780 --> 03:22:03,940
So just think about this.

2523
03:22:04,980 --> 03:22:06,260
It's slang for penis.

2524
03:22:09,540 --> 03:22:15,060
Just seems like a pretty good name to me. Throwing that out there. If that's the case, just line them up for success.

2525
03:22:15,700 --> 03:22:19,060
Someone, it's literally in like Ocean's Eleven or something.

2526
03:22:19,060 --> 03:22:22,660
Like Matt Damon refers to a penis as his Linus or something like that.

2527
03:22:22,660 --> 03:22:26,740
Like this is actually a thing in an actual, no, no, it is absolutely a thing.

2528
03:22:26,740 --> 03:22:29,940
I'm tired of arguing with you, Crystal. I'm Linus-y.

2529
03:22:30,500 --> 03:22:38,980
I thank you for that. That's great. Yeah. So just consider that it 100% is a thing.

2530
03:22:40,660 --> 03:22:45,620
And in response to the person in Floatplane Chat earlier who said,

2531
03:22:46,900 --> 03:22:50,660
you know, I'm going to say that my kid is named after the Charlie Brown character.

2532
03:22:50,660 --> 03:22:55,940
Can I at least give you guys an alternative? Okay, go with this guy.

2533
03:22:56,820 --> 03:22:59,620
Way more important than me.

2534
03:23:00,260 --> 03:23:05,860
Okay. If you must, if you must name your child Linus, okay.

2535
03:23:07,380 --> 03:23:10,980
Two Nobel Prizes. Let's go. Okay.

2536
03:23:10,980 --> 03:23:13,540
There you go. 1,200 papers and books.

2537
03:23:14,500 --> 03:23:17,860
New scientists called him one of the 20 greatest scientists of all time.

2538
03:23:19,540 --> 03:23:22,100
This is apparently my namesake.

2539
03:23:22,820 --> 03:23:26,020
So let's all, let's all just remember who the original Linus is.

2540
03:23:27,140 --> 03:23:28,980
Actually, I think it's a biblical name. Hold on.

2541
03:23:31,860 --> 03:23:33,220
Not an important character.

2542
03:23:36,500 --> 03:23:39,380
Pope line. Oh yeah, there's Pope line. No, no, it goes farther back than that.

2543
03:23:41,620 --> 03:23:44,420
I looked it up and found a Reddit thread from 11 years ago

2544
03:23:45,860 --> 03:23:50,180
about this. And hilariously enough, people are talking about you and it.

2545
03:23:51,060 --> 03:23:56,100
But you seem to be, Urban Dictionary also says it.

2546
03:23:59,060 --> 03:24:02,100
What is this? Where is it? What?

2547
03:24:02,740 --> 03:24:06,020
Millionaire? There it is. Slang for the penis. Yeah, there you go.

2548
03:24:07,140 --> 03:24:12,740
Charlie Brown is slang for the balls. It is not. If Charlie Brown was slang for anything, it'd be a little further back than the balls.

2549
03:24:12,740 --> 03:24:16,580
Yeah, really. But yeah, I found this Reddit thread.

2550
03:24:16,580 --> 03:24:21,060
Yeah. They thought it was Linus. Yeah, I've gotten that number of times.

2551
03:24:21,060 --> 03:24:26,100
But then there's people talking about you, because apparently you linked this thread.

2552
03:24:26,100 --> 03:24:26,740
I did.

2553
03:24:29,140 --> 03:24:32,420
Oh, for Linus Sebastian of Linus Media Group from three years ago.

2554
03:24:32,420 --> 03:24:36,900
And then it's kind of weird that Linus linked to this thread. And then apparently some tweet.

2555
03:24:36,900 --> 03:24:38,420
Dude, it's definitely a thing.

2556
03:24:42,180 --> 03:24:45,060
Ocean's 11. I feel like it's a thing, but it's a thing.

2557
03:24:45,300 --> 03:24:48,740
I feel like it's a thing, but it's a thing for like four people.

2558
03:24:48,740 --> 03:24:50,740
No, it's in a movie.

2559
03:24:52,580 --> 03:24:55,300
I haven't seen anyone refer to the Ocean's 11 thing.

2560
03:24:56,500 --> 03:24:57,140
It's a thing.

2561
03:24:59,620 --> 03:25:02,740
Hold on. Man.

2562
03:25:04,260 --> 03:25:07,300
If it turns out that you're wrong, will you be disappointed?

2563
03:25:08,260 --> 03:25:12,100
If it turns out I'm wrong? No, it's a thing. Do you want your name to be penis?

2564
03:25:12,740 --> 03:25:15,780
No, nobody, Peter doesn't, Dick doesn't.

2565
03:25:16,740 --> 03:25:19,780
None of them want it. I might not be that bad. Unless they do.

2566
03:25:19,780 --> 03:25:22,900
Hey, how do you get Dick from Richard? Yes.

2567
03:25:22,900 --> 03:25:23,940
Yeah, ask him nicely.

2568
03:25:26,180 --> 03:25:30,580
It's an old one, I'm sorry. Yeah. I'm not finding anything about this.

2569
03:25:30,580 --> 03:25:34,980
Maybe Ocean's 12. It's in one of them. They definitely, they definitely say that.

2570
03:25:34,980 --> 03:25:43,300
It's definitely a thing. We need, we need, we need the flow plane chat to research this and come back to us next week.

2571
03:25:43,940 --> 03:25:52,900
Arrested development? Was it arrested development? That Reddit thread that apparently you linked to was a arrested development Reddit thread.

2572
03:25:54,340 --> 03:25:59,220
Buster referred to his, his dong that way.

2573
03:25:59,220 --> 03:26:01,140
It's definitely a thing. I trust me it's a thing.

2574
03:26:06,900 --> 03:26:10,900
I searched for Linus penis and now I am on the LTT only fan.

2575
03:26:13,860 --> 03:26:19,620
I thought we closed that down. I think it is. Yeah, we did, but I think you can still maybe find an archive of it.

2576
03:26:19,620 --> 03:26:22,740
Anyway, speaking of things on Reddit.

2577
03:26:25,460 --> 03:26:32,740
Apple's AI notification summaries. McDonald's, coffee, Ruin Mercedes abandoned Slitherbond.

2578
03:26:32,740 --> 03:26:36,100
Linus, I think it was dead. I'm sorry.

2579
03:26:36,100 --> 03:26:41,620
Yeah, that sucks. That's rough. I didn't pre-recorded, pre-recorded plan show.

2580
03:26:42,980 --> 03:26:48,340
The conspiracy theorists have so much ammo now. Oh no, it's been a rough day.

2581
03:26:48,340 --> 03:26:51,140
I mean, you had a bad week. Mine is much worse.

2582
03:26:55,220 --> 03:26:58,100
I mean, or better, you don't have to come to work on Tuesday.

2583
03:27:01,860 --> 03:27:03,740
Nice. Nice.

2584
03:27:08,120 --> 03:27:12,280
It's all coming up. So sincere, that nice was so sincere.

2585
03:27:12,280 --> 03:27:16,120
And it's nice that this is the end of the show. We'll see you guys again next week.

2586
03:27:16,120 --> 03:27:19,120
Same bad time, same bad channel. Bye. Bye.

2587
03:27:30,780 --> 03:27:32,380
Oh, currently, Budwoom's in an accident.

2588
03:27:36,140 --> 03:27:39,260
Oh, dude, he got a new car accident. He's OK.

2589
03:27:39,260 --> 03:27:41,500
All right. Oh, there you go. Good. There we go.

2590
03:27:42,300 --> 03:27:45,820
I'm glad to hear that. That he's good. Yeah. No, not that.

2591
03:27:47,340 --> 03:27:49,420
Don't be a dick. Hey, you might have been. Don't be a lioness.