{"video_id":"fp_AAXQlQzNC5","title":"It’s a phone*! (*not really) - BOOX Palma 2 Pro","channel":"ShortCircuit","show":"ShortCircuit","published_at":"2025-12-12T20:34:00.075Z","duration_s":1368,"segments":[{"start_s":0.0,"end_s":2.68,"text":"It's back. It's back. It's books","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":4.36,"end_s":10.0,"text":"In all seriousness, I'm very excited to be unboxing another books product","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":10.0,"end_s":14.72,"text":"How many how long has it been a year two years three? It feels like forever","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":14.72,"end_s":21.76,"text":"I was so happy just saying their name and now they're here with the books pama to pro. It's a phone","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":22.76,"end_s":27.08,"text":"Asterix not really don't worry. I'll explain everything basically. It's an e-paper","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":27.8,"end_s":34.6,"text":"Phone-sized device and we got a white and a black one. Which one should I do first white chess rules Bobby Fisher?","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":34.88,"end_s":41.32,"text":"Okay, ooh a nice like orange. Ah, why did I do that? It's like I've never unboxed something before","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":41.48,"end_s":47.88,"text":"Okay, so we got the phone right there. What else is in the box a little paper a little explainer","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":48.68,"end_s":53.64,"text":"Got a sim card sim card removal tool. Oh because this is a phone, right? No","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":54.52,"end_s":59.24,"text":"Stay with me USB-C to a cable. That's an interesting choice","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":60.96,"end_s":63.8,"text":"That's three and a half feet and that's it","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":64.28,"end_s":72.64,"text":"That's it. That's in the actual phone box No charger no anything because it's like maybe that's why they gave the USB a cable because you can plug that into anything","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":72.64,"end_s":77.52,"text":"All right, let's look at the phone and we will cover that stuff in a second the device","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":77.52,"end_s":80.76,"text":"Yeah, you keep calling it a phone because look at it. It looks like a phone","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":80.76,"end_s":84.28,"text":"But it's not a phone and now the reason why I'll just tell you right now","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":84.76,"end_s":88.08,"text":"The reason why it's a phone but not a phone is because it has a sim card slot","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":88.08,"end_s":91.24,"text":"You can put a sim card in there, but you can only use data","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":91.24,"end_s":99.4,"text":"You can't use it for phone calls or for texting via SMS or MMS or RCS or whatever the kids are using these days","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":99.4,"end_s":106.64,"text":"But that leads me to ask many questions about why we have a phone size device that can do it can do data","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":106.64,"end_s":109.84,"text":"You can go out there and have data on the go like a phone","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":109.84,"end_s":114.92,"text":"You just can't call people and I have a theory I have a theory for why that is but first let's look at the phone itself","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":114.92,"end_s":120.8,"text":"So we got these 6.13 inch e-paper display on the back. We've got this whoo like a nice","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":121.64,"end_s":126.88,"text":"Texture what is going on there? It's got like a I think that's meant to kind of like evoke paper","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":127.92,"end_s":134.04,"text":"It's more bumpy than paper obviously, but like at a glance it kind of looks like paper. I like it. I don't know","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":134.04,"end_s":140.64,"text":"It's like a I don't know what you it's some kind of polymer that is a 16 megapixel camera","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":140.64,"end_s":147.28,"text":"And it yeah, it is very very tiny and I think that's too signal to you that you probably shouldn't be using it","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":147.92,"end_s":151.58,"text":"On the top we just have a mic on the right side","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":151.58,"end_s":154.96,"text":"We have the power button, which is also a fingerprint reader on the bottom","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":154.96,"end_s":160.66,"text":"We have a USB-C port and a speaker grill and a mic and the combo","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":161.18,"end_s":164.82,"text":"SIM card slash micro SD card slot and on the left side","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":164.82,"end_s":170.42,"text":"We have the volume rocker and another button that I would know if I looked at the quick start guide","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":170.42,"end_s":177.98,"text":"But I didn't customizable function button. Okay, got a light sensor on the front here and a speaker by all accounts","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":177.98,"end_s":184.14,"text":"This certainly appears to be a phone now before we get too deep into actually using this thing as you can see","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":184.14,"end_s":189.7,"text":"It appears to be running Android and it is Android 15 real quick. There's some other things here","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":189.7,"end_s":193.98,"text":"We've got the Incense plus which is Boox's","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":195.46,"end_s":199.62,"text":"Stylus I guess it's not I don't know if they want me to call it a stylus or not and frankly, I don't care","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":199.62,"end_s":209.74,"text":"Oh, wow. Okay. This is an interesting design We've got USB-C port along the body of the pen there with and maybe an LED or a reset pin","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":209.74,"end_s":217.62,"text":"I'm not sure on the other side We've got a button and then tips which are replaceable as evidenced by the box of","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":218.26,"end_s":224.34,"text":"Replacement tips. Does it work just like out of the box? Can I do stuff with it? Or I mean, we'll find out. I'll use that in a second","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":224.34,"end_s":226.9,"text":"That's this the Incense plus","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":227.86,"end_s":233.5,"text":"And then we got a cover. Ooh This is kind of a nice fancy cover. What? Oh","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":234.3,"end_s":236.74,"text":"interesting it comes with okay, so it's got a it's got a","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":237.5,"end_s":243.06,"text":"Case in it that has what I like that and has this is magnetic something was sticking to it","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":243.06,"end_s":249.62,"text":"So it's a plastic case with a magnet ring on it and then a cover for the screen","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":250.18,"end_s":254.42,"text":"that wraps around the back and","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":255.06,"end_s":260.9,"text":"Connects to the front again, so you would take off the flap and then open up the main book without taking it all off","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":260.9,"end_s":265.98,"text":"You'd do that. I don't know if I like that. I'm trying to think if I'm like misunderstanding, but I don't think I am","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":265.98,"end_s":267.98,"text":"I think this is just kind of a wonky","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":269.94,"end_s":274.66,"text":"Hey, it's original I don't love how that looks when you","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":275.18,"end_s":280.38,"text":"When you when you flip it around and you it's all like done up properly. I want it to be level","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":281.14,"end_s":287.3,"text":"It doesn't matter at all But you know as long as we're talking about nice aesthetics and like design and stuff","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":287.3,"end_s":291.82,"text":"And then I'm guessing that this also has a magnet here, so you could attach that to something probably","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":291.82,"end_s":297.74,"text":"I mean, I'll give them I'll give them originality points for sure and like, you know, it's like a kind of a leatherette","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":298.14,"end_s":302.14,"text":"Covering I don't know if it's leather. It's leather something. It's meant to kind of feel like leather","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":303.42,"end_s":312.06,"text":"It's just like dangling Boox, you know, I love you. Okay real quick. What does the black one look like? Probably like the same thing but black","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":315.5,"end_s":318.94,"text":"Yep But that ooh that is like nice and sleek","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":318.94,"end_s":324.78,"text":"I don't know I like I like I kind of like the two-tone nature of this one where you kind of got the lighter back and then the","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":325.1,"end_s":332.86,"text":"These sides are like a slightly different color. That looks sleek. That is like this guy. Ooh, this guy reads a lot of books","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":333.18,"end_s":336.54,"text":"He probably has helped self helped himself so many times","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":337.42,"end_s":344.14,"text":"Anyway, I'm gonna stick with the white one though. Ah, but Riley, what about the sponsor? Okay now, I'll say that I do not have","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":344.78,"end_s":349.02,"text":"experience with the previous books Palma devices. This is my first","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":349.74,"end_s":353.98,"text":"kind of go at checking out the their phone sized things","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":354.06,"end_s":360.3,"text":"But I hear that people like them. They're they're often put forward as one of the pretty good options for a small e-paper","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":360.54,"end_s":365.02,"text":"You know e-reader type device. I feel like there's a bit bright for you, Andrew and I'm sensitive to your","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":365.74,"end_s":371.34,"text":"Needs there's dual backlight control. So this is like the strength of the backlight. This is brightness","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":372.22,"end_s":379.82,"text":"And then this is temperature. So you can have cool temperature or warm temperature. I like that. This is nice","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":380.7,"end_s":384.94,"text":"I've had there's been other devices where the two sliders are one is like a warm backlight","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":385.02,"end_s":389.18,"text":"And the other one is a blue backlight and you have to like choose you have to mix them and match them","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":389.18,"end_s":396.06,"text":"How you want, but I think I like this better where I'm like, okay I'm in a dark room. So I know I want it a bit wait. It's e-paper. It's not a regular display","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":396.14,"end_s":401.58,"text":"Whatever you get it and you'll notice that I just drag down from the top and we got into quick settings","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":401.98,"end_s":406.62,"text":"Just like a normal Android device because this is an Android device. It's running Android 15","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":407.1,"end_s":413.5,"text":"Obviously with books his own kind of skin on here, which overall does not offend me","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":413.82,"end_s":416.54,"text":"I like the minimalist design. It works well with the e-paper","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":417.42,"end_s":424.86,"text":"display, which is a collido 3 color e-paper display, which apparently has one of its big","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":425.5,"end_s":430.78,"text":"Selling points that it reduces blue light. It's less toxic for your eyes or something","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":431.34,"end_s":438.54,"text":"Um, we'll see how my eyes feel at the end Andrew pointed out that you can see a little bit of image retention still right there because the screen hasn't","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":438.86,"end_s":445.98,"text":"Done a full refresh. Is there a what I forget what device it was recently that had like a dedicated screen refresh button","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":446.3,"end_s":451.58,"text":"Which I thought was pretty handy, but at this but with this thing it seems like I'll just have to I'm sure that there's some","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":451.9,"end_s":455.66,"text":"Setting to do that. Okay. That's some sort of quick settings floaty bubble thing","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":455.9,"end_s":459.26,"text":"I'm sure you can disable that which I would very much like to do","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":459.5,"end_s":465.98,"text":"I don't know why all of these phone companies making software think that people want little bubbles floating around","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":466.22,"end_s":470.62,"text":"Surely you want quick access to our services over the other ones. No, I don't","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":471.42,"end_s":476.3,"text":"This is kind of an interesting configuration of icons at the bottom here. We got oh, is that that screen refresh?","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":476.94,"end_s":481.5,"text":"There it is. So there is a screen refresh button always always accessible if I open an app","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":482.54,"end_s":488.38,"text":"Yeah, nice. All right. You did it books. I knew you could and then we got the typical Android","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":488.54,"end_s":491.26,"text":"A home button back button multitasking","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":492.46,"end_s":495.1,"text":"Is this the settings? Oh, this is a quick settings","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":495.82,"end_s":500.46,"text":"Interesting. I think I remember this the the books tablet that I did back in the day","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":500.7,"end_s":504.7,"text":"Also had this like kind of quick settings things that could pop up switch refresh mode","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":504.86,"end_s":511.34,"text":"One thing that we're seeing a lot with these smaller e-paper devices is well and larger tablets as well is","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":511.98,"end_s":517.98,"text":"Modes that you can trade off Screen quality for speed. So here we got hd quality","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":518.94,"end_s":524.38,"text":"Ooh, that does look a little sharper than whatever we I think I guess we were on speed mode speed mode definitely looks worse","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":524.62,"end_s":528.46,"text":"I mean, you're not going to get like astoundingly amazing visuals on the","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":529.26,"end_s":536.86,"text":"824 by 1648 display and on the 6.13 inch screen here that equates to about 300 ppi","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":537.66,"end_s":543.9,"text":"In black and white mode if you're in color mode as we are right now. It's only 150 ppi","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":543.98,"end_s":551.34,"text":"Our Labs team pointed out in their testing that it's 150 ppi in color mode. That's not the case for devices that have the","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":552.3,"end_s":555.66,"text":"gallery 3 display now, apparently there are some other trade-offs","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":556.38,"end_s":560.62,"text":"but you can have that 300 ppi ppi","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":562.46,"end_s":570.62,"text":"Pixel density while also having color So, I don't know I you know, I'm not going to judge the choices they make. I mean actually I will that's the whole that's my whole job here","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":570.62,"end_s":573.66,"text":"I guess I didn't notice here that you can kind of switch between","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":574.54,"end_s":580.54,"text":"The recommended settings the fast refresh settings that'll change these settings down here or you can have fully custom","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":580.78,"end_s":587.02,"text":"Suffice to say there's a lot of depth here and you can play around until you find something that like looks pretty good to you","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":587.02,"end_s":591.58,"text":"So I'm not going to dive too much into the custom settings, but just know there's some color here","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":592.06,"end_s":599.98,"text":"But it's interesting that color e-paper devices have become a thing because part of the whole appeal of having a device like this is that you","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":601.02,"end_s":605.02,"text":"Have a worse screen So that you are not tempted","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":605.1,"end_s":609.1,"text":"To use it for things that you would use your normal phone for which is why","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":609.9,"end_s":616.7,"text":"I think that these guys listen to me and maybe they were working on this device before I expressed in a video that like you know","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":617.02,"end_s":621.66,"text":"The solution to this whole attention problem is not having a minimalist phone","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":622.3,"end_s":628.3,"text":"That forces you into like this little box. You can only do some things with your devices. It's it's up to you really","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":628.38,"end_s":631.82,"text":"It's a self-control thing. It's not so much like oh the hardware is to blame","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":631.98,"end_s":636.22,"text":"So maybe they were working on this before I said that but you know time could be non-linear","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":636.22,"end_s":639.82,"text":"Have you seen a rival if you haven't why not go watch it right now?","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":639.9,"end_s":644.22,"text":"I'm just kidding after this So basically I like that these guys are saying with this device","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":644.54,"end_s":652.78,"text":"You cannot use it as your normal phone If you care about your normal phone having the ability to call people and text people via traditional methods","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":652.78,"end_s":657.26,"text":"Which I think most people even though we barely use that anymore most people still want that as part of their phone","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":657.42,"end_s":662.86,"text":"So you're not going to use this as your phone. You're going to use it as an Android device like for example, you can use it","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":663.74,"end_s":668.78,"text":"For maps and it'll work. It's got gps. In fact, it's got assisted gps","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":669.74,"end_s":673.42,"text":"Which uses data to help with the gps positioning","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":674.3,"end_s":677.98,"text":"Funny enough maps is not installed on this device. So I'm going to install it","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":678.14,"end_s":681.42,"text":"I'm finding that some of the taps aren't really like registering","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":681.82,"end_s":689.42,"text":"Some of the kind of slower responsiveness here may also be due to the fact that the chip that we're running on here is a snapdragon","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":689.9,"end_s":696.7,"text":"6350 Which if you know anything about snapdragon, you're going to know that that's not the flagship and speaking of performance","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":696.94,"end_s":700.62,"text":"our Labs team ran some testing on the CPU here and","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":701.26,"end_s":706.38,"text":"Interestingly, they could not run the standard mobile geek bench setup that we use","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":706.46,"end_s":710.46,"text":"But they were able to run antutu where the books palmatu pro scored","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":711.58,"end_s":714.7,"text":"212,863 which for context","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":715.42,"end_s":719.1,"text":"Seems to be around the ballpark of a samsung galaxy a16","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":719.74,"end_s":727.5,"text":"And less than a quarter of the score Of the of a red magic 10 pro that's according to numbers on antutu's website","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":727.66,"end_s":731.18,"text":"So you're not dealing with a incredibly fast incredibly powerful","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":731.98,"end_s":736.3,"text":"Chip here. However, I'm in a some kind of mode that's making the refresh","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":737.1,"end_s":742.78,"text":"Less than inspiring although for an eink display. I mean I have used much much worse","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":742.86,"end_s":748.3,"text":"I mean like look at this. This is this is like, you know, it's like using a slightly slower","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":749.18,"end_s":752.14,"text":"OLED display not OLED, but you know traditional display","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":752.46,"end_s":756.14,"text":"I do want to just like go into like the fast okay fast refresh. Ooh","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":756.78,"end_s":759.74,"text":"What? so fast refresh","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":759.9,"end_s":766.62,"text":"Brought more color in and more contrast that looks way better and it's much more responsive more color and more responsive","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":766.86,"end_s":773.82,"text":"All right, let's see what this stylus experience is like with the ink sense plus. Oh stylus","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":774.94,"end_s":782.7,"text":"Do you want to display handwriting functions? Yeah, oh, okay. So now this stylus is working like my finger. That's all I've ever wanted","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":783.42,"end_s":788.22,"text":"Stylus fingers kids mode free mark. What is this? So this free mark","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":788.94,"end_s":797.34,"text":"app appears to be Something where you can either enable handwriting mode and then you can like draw on your screen and make notes","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":797.66,"end_s":802.7,"text":"And then you can save the screenshot and then that'll be there for you to save or to send it to somebody or you can","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":803.18,"end_s":809.1,"text":"Enable using mode and then now it's acting more now. It's just acting like your finger. It's kind of cool","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":809.9,"end_s":812.94,"text":"Actually like that that might be very useful if you're kind of going through","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":813.66,"end_s":816.3,"text":"documents or something and you want to you want to","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":817.26,"end_s":823.98,"text":"Use it Turn pages and then oh i'm going to enter notes mode and circle something save it goes away go back to using mode","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":823.98,"end_s":827.42,"text":"That's pretty cool. Nice one. Bukes. So the ink sense plus has","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":828.62,"end_s":832.22,"text":"4096 levels of pressure sensitivity. That's kind of the standard thing you hear","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":832.38,"end_s":837.02,"text":"Got a shortcut button on top that i'm guessing is customizable","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":837.26,"end_s":842.3,"text":"I got to say there's something about using Android e-paper devices, especially in some apps","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":842.3,"end_s":848.14,"text":"It seems like some apps can really take advantage of the advances in refresh rate that have been made with this technology","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":848.46,"end_s":853.34,"text":"And other apps like are not optimized for it using the settings app where you can't","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":853.9,"end_s":856.3,"text":"Scroll and see like I can't peek","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":857.18,"end_s":859.98,"text":"At what i'm going to see under there. I scroll and then I have to","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":860.46,"end_s":864.38,"text":"Accept what's going to show up and it's like just like that. That is very frustrating to use","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":864.7,"end_s":868.46,"text":"So I feel like priority number one. I don't know maybe don't listen to me","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":868.86,"end_s":872.94,"text":"But if it was me priority number one would be making it so that I can scroll and like","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":873.66,"end_s":878.7,"text":"Not have to scroll in and wait scroll wait scroll wait. I just realized when you scroll","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":879.98,"end_s":886.54,"text":"Full refresh It it goes a whole page down. Even whether you like do a lot or do or do a little","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":887.66,"end_s":891.18,"text":"It goes one page down. You can't like go in increments. Oh","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":892.46,"end_s":897.1,"text":"Change it There's the notes app. Okay. We're in color mode","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":897.74,"end_s":903.82,"text":"And how does this feel the feel is kind of nice. It does not feel like a normal display. There's a little bit of scratch to it","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":904.62,"end_s":907.34,"text":"I wouldn't say it's nearly as paper-like","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":907.98,"end_s":912.86,"text":"as the remarkable screen or like","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":912.94,"end_s":917.82,"text":"something with a paper-like Screen protector no free cloud take that out","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":918.7,"end_s":925.18,"text":"Editor leave that in Whoa, look at that. Look at that delay. It's processing. It's like wait","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":925.74,"end_s":928.54,"text":"Where are you going? Take me with you. No","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":930.62,"end_s":935.34,"text":"My question is my question is why can't they put like a little bit better of a processor in there?","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":935.42,"end_s":939.1,"text":"I mean, it's probably like one of the most expensive parts if not the most expensive","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":939.58,"end_s":943.9,"text":"But like that's a little frustrating if I if I erase everything that I did","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":944.46,"end_s":949.42,"text":"If I erase everything I've ever done Well, it's still wow that's taken a while. It was something about that tool","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":950.14,"end_s":954.3,"text":"Very responsive with like a more basic kind of is a ballpoint pen and green","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":955.26,"end_s":962.22,"text":"And it's gone every time I'm you expect an eraser just to erase the part of like a like part of what you're doing","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":962.38,"end_s":967.66,"text":"This is this is like seems to be a theme with these e-ink devices. It's like you never know when you go to erase","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":967.74,"end_s":971.82,"text":"Oh, here we go. There's different modes here lasso eraser. Oh, is this going to be it?","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":972.3,"end_s":975.34,"text":"Yes, there we go. So there's a different eraser mode where you can erase part of it","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":975.42,"end_s":979.34,"text":"Anyway, there's a decent amount of depth here in the amount of tools that you can you can have","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":979.66,"end_s":982.62,"text":"It's that time even though it is an e-paper display","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":982.86,"end_s":986.78,"text":"It has a pretty good color display. Oh, look at that. Is that how a video is going to look?","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":987.58,"end_s":991.18,"text":"I think so. We have no choice but to crab rave so far","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":991.26,"end_s":994.38,"text":"I'm pretty happy with how much like a normal","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":994.86,"end_s":999.1,"text":"Android device using this feels and we are in fast refresh rate mode","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":1000.22,"end_s":1003.82,"text":"So the colors could be a little bit better than this","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":1004.62,"end_s":1011.58,"text":"I'm guessing it's capable of that But I think if you go into that like more a color high color fidelity mode","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":1012.06,"end_s":1014.94,"text":"Then it's going to start flickering. I don't know if I even want to do this guys","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":1018.22,"end_s":1021.26,"text":"Sounds like a tamagotchi. Yeah, those speakers are not good. Uh","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":1022.14,"end_s":1026.46,"text":"I think I don't know what else to tell you You're you're not going to get a device like this for the speakers","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":1026.94,"end_s":1031.42,"text":"The speakers are there if you really need to watch a video that somebody sent you and it's got sound","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":1033.1,"end_s":1040.62,"text":"You can play the sound You can play the sound, but it's not going to sound good now playing video is actually how our Labs team did the battery discharge test","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":1040.86,"end_s":1044.46,"text":"and It lasted six hours","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":1044.62,"end_s":1050.78,"text":"Which is not very long For a phone these days. You're expecting it to have more like all-day battery life","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":1050.78,"end_s":1058.14,"text":"However, this display this kind of e-paper display the way that it displays things is by moving physical particles around on the display","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":1058.22,"end_s":1060.62,"text":"So it's going to take more energy to play video","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":1061.26,"end_s":1066.78,"text":"Continuously than you know one of these other traditional displays that are geared towards play video","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":1067.02,"end_s":1071.9,"text":"Now brace yourself because once they discharged the battery completely they did a full zero to a hundred","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":1072.38,"end_s":1079.18,"text":"Battery charge test using our standard 45 watt charger. However, the books pama 2 pro did not care how much wattage","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":1079.5,"end_s":1083.1,"text":"It was being fed because it only wanted to use 10 watts","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":1083.74,"end_s":1085.82,"text":"and so it took three hours","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":1086.78,"end_s":1089.18,"text":"and 17 minutes to charge the","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":1089.9,"end_s":1093.5,"text":"3950 milliamp hour battery and that's just too long. I'm sorry","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":1094.06,"end_s":1100.14,"text":"Now that is playing video. As I said, it takes a lot of battery when you're doing normal e-ink e-paper type stuff","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":1100.78,"end_s":1107.58,"text":"People are you know who've been using this posting online about it or talking about you know a week of battery life possibly more","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":1108.06,"end_s":1114.22,"text":"So, you know, you won't have to charge it for three hours uh that often or ever if you kind of like","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":1114.7,"end_s":1119.82,"text":"Do some power sipping charging in the middle of the day But it is something that you will have to be aware of that like if you're like oops","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":1119.82,"end_s":1124.3,"text":"I forgot to charge you can't just like do a quick charge like it's gonna take a while you're gonna be there for a while","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":1125.1,"end_s":1130.78,"text":"Do some reading now against all recommendations devices like these are putting cameras on board","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":1131.26,"end_s":1137.98,"text":"uh I I shouldn't be sassy like that. Like I said, it's nice to have a device like this that can do anything","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":1138.3,"end_s":1141.58,"text":"That a Android device could do just uh poorly","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":1142.54,"end_s":1147.1,"text":"Just to have it, you know because then we have it say say cheese","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":1147.98,"end_s":1152.38,"text":"Got the 16 megapixel camera and now I'm doing my my this is my standard photo test","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":1152.38,"end_s":1154.78,"text":"I don't know if you've seen me do this before Mel. Oh, yeah","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":1155.5,"end_s":1159.1,"text":"And I won't be able to tell what those look like until uh, the editor gets them","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":1159.18,"end_s":1162.54,"text":"So, uh, you let me know in the comments. How do they look probably not great?","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":1162.94,"end_s":1166.54,"text":"It's not it's not lagging horribly like it's it's to the point where I can","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":1167.34,"end_s":1175.9,"text":"I can do it and I don't feel like I'm getting sick There's a selfie cam button, but there's no selfie cam on this device. It's just taunting me like remember","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":1176.22,"end_s":1184.54,"text":"Remember, this is not a phone. We talked about this I I'm happy to see that uh chrome supports kind of smooth scrolling instead of like jumping down by pages","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":1184.7,"end_s":1187.02,"text":"You know in some ways despite me saying that","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":1187.74,"end_s":1191.5,"text":"The way forward the way to not have brain rot is","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":1192.06,"end_s":1197.1,"text":"It's not a hardware solution despite me saying that using this thing. I kind of want to use it as my phone","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":1198.46,"end_s":1204.62,"text":"The minimal phone was like a very distinct experience. It was like listen, you have a problem","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":1205.26,"end_s":1208.22,"text":"Okay, it was Android it ran Android so it","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":1208.78,"end_s":1213.26,"text":"You know could do some stuff like this although it had its own skin on it","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":1213.74,"end_s":1218.62,"text":"You could still install apps and try to use it like another kind of Android phone","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":1219.1,"end_s":1225.5,"text":"But it was like it was still just kind of clunky this with the high refresh rate and the color","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":1226.3,"end_s":1230.86,"text":"and the familiar settings menus and stuff instead of like minimal zone sort of like","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":1232.22,"end_s":1240.46,"text":"custom skin This feels this felt pretty good. So in some ways, I'm a little sad that this does not have the capability to","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":1241.34,"end_s":1247.26,"text":"Make phone calls or make or do text messages, which I still sometimes do I admit it now","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":1247.26,"end_s":1255.82,"text":"That said despite this very much Feeling like using a normal Android device these companies are still putting very weak hardware in here","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":1256.46,"end_s":1259.74,"text":"It does have 128 gigs of storage to start","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":1260.22,"end_s":1263.26,"text":"and you can actually expand that up to two terabytes with the","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":1264.06,"end_s":1270.06,"text":"SD card combo SIM tray thingy. It's got that weak CPU. We talked about it's only got eight gigs of RAM","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":1270.7,"end_s":1273.58,"text":"Uh, which is now in 2025 not very much for a phone","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":1273.9,"end_s":1279.34,"text":"And so for a daily driver it probably would still be frustrating and then we're back into this whole like","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":1279.74,"end_s":1284.06,"text":"Do you want your phone to be frustrating? Maybe you want your phone to be frustrating so that you use it less","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":1284.14,"end_s":1287.98,"text":"But again, I don't think it's a hardware issue. I think it is a","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":1288.3,"end_s":1294.14,"text":"Self-control thing and I think it's also a platform thing We need to we need to make these platforms less brain rotty","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":1294.86,"end_s":1298.54,"text":"Because I don't want to use a crappy phone","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":1298.54,"end_s":1306.46,"text":"Especially for $400 which is like you can get a pretty decent budget phone for around that ballpark these days","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":1306.94,"end_s":1310.7,"text":"So it's $400 for the books palma 2 pro","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":1311.18,"end_s":1314.94,"text":"It's $46 for the books incense plus","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":1315.42,"end_s":1320.06,"text":"Um, which I will say I like to the experience of that, you know taking this on the go","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":1320.46,"end_s":1325.26,"text":"Taking notes annotating your screen saving it reading and I've said this on other videos","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":1325.34,"end_s":1331.42,"text":"And I apologize to anyone who's about to hear this, but I already read ebooks on my phone on my regular phone","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":1332.3,"end_s":1334.94,"text":"Uh in dark mode. Okay, so reading on an e","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":1335.66,"end_s":1341.98,"text":"Uh paper screen this small I'm fine with it. I'm also fine if you subscribe to the ShortCircuit","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":1342.06,"end_s":1347.42,"text":"Hey, uh, if you are interested in watching another video, perhaps you could consider watching a previous video","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":1347.58,"end_s":1351.5,"text":"Hosted by me, which is the remarkable paper. Uh pro move","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":1352.14,"end_s":1357.42,"text":"Which is $450 Books palma 2 pro poof palma 2 pro","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":1358.46,"end_s":1363.66,"text":"Open up books and give it a go when you're reading the books. Everything is so fine","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0},{"start_s":1364.06,"end_s":1367.74,"text":"Just don't get it all the way to the end of the line","speaker":null,"is_sponsor":0}],"full_text":"It's back. It's back. It's books In all seriousness, I'm very excited to be unboxing another books product How many how long has it been a year two years three? It feels like forever I was so happy just saying their name and now they're here with the books pama to pro. It's a phone Asterix not really don't worry. I'll explain everything basically. It's an e-paper Phone-sized device and we got a white and a black one. Which one should I do first white chess rules Bobby Fisher? Okay, ooh a nice like orange. Ah, why did I do that? It's like I've never unboxed something before Okay, so we got the phone right there. What else is in the box a little paper a little explainer Got a sim card sim card removal tool. Oh because this is a phone, right? No Stay with me USB-C to a cable. That's an interesting choice That's three and a half feet and that's it That's it. That's in the actual phone box No charger no anything because it's like maybe that's why they gave the USB a cable because you can plug that into anything All right, let's look at the phone and we will cover that stuff in a second the device Yeah, you keep calling it a phone because look at it. It looks like a phone But it's not a phone and now the reason why I'll just tell you right now The reason why it's a phone but not a phone is because it has a sim card slot You can put a sim card in there, but you can only use data You can't use it for phone calls or for texting via SMS or MMS or RCS or whatever the kids are using these days But that leads me to ask many questions about why we have a phone size device that can do it can do data You can go out there and have data on the go like a phone You just can't call people and I have a theory I have a theory for why that is but first let's look at the phone itself So we got these 6.13 inch e-paper display on the back. We've got this whoo like a nice Texture what is going on there? It's got like a I think that's meant to kind of like evoke paper It's more bumpy than paper obviously, but like at a glance it kind of looks like paper. I like it. I don't know It's like a I don't know what you it's some kind of polymer that is a 16 megapixel camera And it yeah, it is very very tiny and I think that's too signal to you that you probably shouldn't be using it On the top we just have a mic on the right side We have the power button, which is also a fingerprint reader on the bottom We have a USB-C port and a speaker grill and a mic and the combo SIM card slash micro SD card slot and on the left side We have the volume rocker and another button that I would know if I looked at the quick start guide But I didn't customizable function button. Okay, got a light sensor on the front here and a speaker by all accounts This certainly appears to be a phone now before we get too deep into actually using this thing as you can see It appears to be running Android and it is Android 15 real quick. There's some other things here We've got the Incense plus which is Boox's Stylus I guess it's not I don't know if they want me to call it a stylus or not and frankly, I don't care Oh, wow. Okay. This is an interesting design We've got USB-C port along the body of the pen there with and maybe an LED or a reset pin I'm not sure on the other side We've got a button and then tips which are replaceable as evidenced by the box of Replacement tips. Does it work just like out of the box? Can I do stuff with it? Or I mean, we'll find out. I'll use that in a second That's this the Incense plus And then we got a cover. Ooh This is kind of a nice fancy cover. What? Oh interesting it comes with okay, so it's got a it's got a Case in it that has what I like that and has this is magnetic something was sticking to it So it's a plastic case with a magnet ring on it and then a cover for the screen that wraps around the back and Connects to the front again, so you would take off the flap and then open up the main book without taking it all off You'd do that. I don't know if I like that. I'm trying to think if I'm like misunderstanding, but I don't think I am I think this is just kind of a wonky Hey, it's original I don't love how that looks when you When you when you flip it around and you it's all like done up properly. I want it to be level It doesn't matter at all But you know as long as we're talking about nice aesthetics and like design and stuff And then I'm guessing that this also has a magnet here, so you could attach that to something probably I mean, I'll give them I'll give them originality points for sure and like, you know, it's like a kind of a leatherette Covering I don't know if it's leather. It's leather something. It's meant to kind of feel like leather It's just like dangling Boox, you know, I love you. Okay real quick. What does the black one look like? Probably like the same thing but black Yep But that ooh that is like nice and sleek I don't know I like I like I kind of like the two-tone nature of this one where you kind of got the lighter back and then the These sides are like a slightly different color. That looks sleek. That is like this guy. Ooh, this guy reads a lot of books He probably has helped self helped himself so many times Anyway, I'm gonna stick with the white one though. Ah, but Riley, what about the sponsor? Okay now, I'll say that I do not have experience with the previous books Palma devices. This is my first kind of go at checking out the their phone sized things But I hear that people like them. They're they're often put forward as one of the pretty good options for a small e-paper You know e-reader type device. I feel like there's a bit bright for you, Andrew and I'm sensitive to your Needs there's dual backlight control. So this is like the strength of the backlight. This is brightness And then this is temperature. So you can have cool temperature or warm temperature. I like that. This is nice I've had there's been other devices where the two sliders are one is like a warm backlight And the other one is a blue backlight and you have to like choose you have to mix them and match them How you want, but I think I like this better where I'm like, okay I'm in a dark room. So I know I want it a bit wait. It's e-paper. It's not a regular display Whatever you get it and you'll notice that I just drag down from the top and we got into quick settings Just like a normal Android device because this is an Android device. It's running Android 15 Obviously with books his own kind of skin on here, which overall does not offend me I like the minimalist design. It works well with the e-paper display, which is a collido 3 color e-paper display, which apparently has one of its big Selling points that it reduces blue light. It's less toxic for your eyes or something Um, we'll see how my eyes feel at the end Andrew pointed out that you can see a little bit of image retention still right there because the screen hasn't Done a full refresh. Is there a what I forget what device it was recently that had like a dedicated screen refresh button Which I thought was pretty handy, but at this but with this thing it seems like I'll just have to I'm sure that there's some Setting to do that. Okay. That's some sort of quick settings floaty bubble thing I'm sure you can disable that which I would very much like to do I don't know why all of these phone companies making software think that people want little bubbles floating around Surely you want quick access to our services over the other ones. No, I don't This is kind of an interesting configuration of icons at the bottom here. We got oh, is that that screen refresh? There it is. So there is a screen refresh button always always accessible if I open an app Yeah, nice. All right. You did it books. I knew you could and then we got the typical Android A home button back button multitasking Is this the settings? Oh, this is a quick settings Interesting. I think I remember this the the books tablet that I did back in the day Also had this like kind of quick settings things that could pop up switch refresh mode One thing that we're seeing a lot with these smaller e-paper devices is well and larger tablets as well is Modes that you can trade off Screen quality for speed. So here we got hd quality Ooh, that does look a little sharper than whatever we I think I guess we were on speed mode speed mode definitely looks worse I mean, you're not going to get like astoundingly amazing visuals on the 824 by 1648 display and on the 6.13 inch screen here that equates to about 300 ppi In black and white mode if you're in color mode as we are right now. It's only 150 ppi Our Labs team pointed out in their testing that it's 150 ppi in color mode. That's not the case for devices that have the gallery 3 display now, apparently there are some other trade-offs but you can have that 300 ppi ppi Pixel density while also having color So, I don't know I you know, I'm not going to judge the choices they make. I mean actually I will that's the whole that's my whole job here I guess I didn't notice here that you can kind of switch between The recommended settings the fast refresh settings that'll change these settings down here or you can have fully custom Suffice to say there's a lot of depth here and you can play around until you find something that like looks pretty good to you So I'm not going to dive too much into the custom settings, but just know there's some color here But it's interesting that color e-paper devices have become a thing because part of the whole appeal of having a device like this is that you Have a worse screen So that you are not tempted To use it for things that you would use your normal phone for which is why I think that these guys listen to me and maybe they were working on this device before I expressed in a video that like you know The solution to this whole attention problem is not having a minimalist phone That forces you into like this little box. You can only do some things with your devices. It's it's up to you really It's a self-control thing. It's not so much like oh the hardware is to blame So maybe they were working on this before I said that but you know time could be non-linear Have you seen a rival if you haven't why not go watch it right now? I'm just kidding after this So basically I like that these guys are saying with this device You cannot use it as your normal phone If you care about your normal phone having the ability to call people and text people via traditional methods Which I think most people even though we barely use that anymore most people still want that as part of their phone So you're not going to use this as your phone. You're going to use it as an Android device like for example, you can use it For maps and it'll work. It's got gps. In fact, it's got assisted gps Which uses data to help with the gps positioning Funny enough maps is not installed on this device. So I'm going to install it I'm finding that some of the taps aren't really like registering Some of the kind of slower responsiveness here may also be due to the fact that the chip that we're running on here is a snapdragon 6350 Which if you know anything about snapdragon, you're going to know that that's not the flagship and speaking of performance our Labs team ran some testing on the CPU here and Interestingly, they could not run the standard mobile geek bench setup that we use But they were able to run antutu where the books palmatu pro scored 212,863 which for context Seems to be around the ballpark of a samsung galaxy a16 And less than a quarter of the score Of the of a red magic 10 pro that's according to numbers on antutu's website So you're not dealing with a incredibly fast incredibly powerful Chip here. However, I'm in a some kind of mode that's making the refresh Less than inspiring although for an eink display. I mean I have used much much worse I mean like look at this. This is this is like, you know, it's like using a slightly slower OLED display not OLED, but you know traditional display I do want to just like go into like the fast okay fast refresh. Ooh What? so fast refresh Brought more color in and more contrast that looks way better and it's much more responsive more color and more responsive All right, let's see what this stylus experience is like with the ink sense plus. Oh stylus Do you want to display handwriting functions? Yeah, oh, okay. So now this stylus is working like my finger. That's all I've ever wanted Stylus fingers kids mode free mark. What is this? So this free mark app appears to be Something where you can either enable handwriting mode and then you can like draw on your screen and make notes And then you can save the screenshot and then that'll be there for you to save or to send it to somebody or you can Enable using mode and then now it's acting more now. It's just acting like your finger. It's kind of cool Actually like that that might be very useful if you're kind of going through documents or something and you want to you want to Use it Turn pages and then oh i'm going to enter notes mode and circle something save it goes away go back to using mode That's pretty cool. Nice one. Bukes. So the ink sense plus has 4096 levels of pressure sensitivity. That's kind of the standard thing you hear Got a shortcut button on top that i'm guessing is customizable I got to say there's something about using Android e-paper devices, especially in some apps It seems like some apps can really take advantage of the advances in refresh rate that have been made with this technology And other apps like are not optimized for it using the settings app where you can't Scroll and see like I can't peek At what i'm going to see under there. I scroll and then I have to Accept what's going to show up and it's like just like that. That is very frustrating to use So I feel like priority number one. I don't know maybe don't listen to me But if it was me priority number one would be making it so that I can scroll and like Not have to scroll in and wait scroll wait scroll wait. I just realized when you scroll Full refresh It it goes a whole page down. Even whether you like do a lot or do or do a little It goes one page down. You can't like go in increments. Oh Change it There's the notes app. Okay. We're in color mode And how does this feel the feel is kind of nice. It does not feel like a normal display. There's a little bit of scratch to it I wouldn't say it's nearly as paper-like as the remarkable screen or like something with a paper-like Screen protector no free cloud take that out Editor leave that in Whoa, look at that. Look at that delay. It's processing. It's like wait Where are you going? Take me with you. No My question is my question is why can't they put like a little bit better of a processor in there? I mean, it's probably like one of the most expensive parts if not the most expensive But like that's a little frustrating if I if I erase everything that I did If I erase everything I've ever done Well, it's still wow that's taken a while. It was something about that tool Very responsive with like a more basic kind of is a ballpoint pen and green And it's gone every time I'm you expect an eraser just to erase the part of like a like part of what you're doing This is this is like seems to be a theme with these e-ink devices. It's like you never know when you go to erase Oh, here we go. There's different modes here lasso eraser. Oh, is this going to be it? Yes, there we go. So there's a different eraser mode where you can erase part of it Anyway, there's a decent amount of depth here in the amount of tools that you can you can have It's that time even though it is an e-paper display It has a pretty good color display. Oh, look at that. Is that how a video is going to look? I think so. We have no choice but to crab rave so far I'm pretty happy with how much like a normal Android device using this feels and we are in fast refresh rate mode So the colors could be a little bit better than this I'm guessing it's capable of that But I think if you go into that like more a color high color fidelity mode Then it's going to start flickering. I don't know if I even want to do this guys Sounds like a tamagotchi. Yeah, those speakers are not good. Uh I think I don't know what else to tell you You're you're not going to get a device like this for the speakers The speakers are there if you really need to watch a video that somebody sent you and it's got sound You can play the sound You can play the sound, but it's not going to sound good now playing video is actually how our Labs team did the battery discharge test and It lasted six hours Which is not very long For a phone these days. You're expecting it to have more like all-day battery life However, this display this kind of e-paper display the way that it displays things is by moving physical particles around on the display So it's going to take more energy to play video Continuously than you know one of these other traditional displays that are geared towards play video Now brace yourself because once they discharged the battery completely they did a full zero to a hundred Battery charge test using our standard 45 watt charger. However, the books pama 2 pro did not care how much wattage It was being fed because it only wanted to use 10 watts and so it took three hours and 17 minutes to charge the 3950 milliamp hour battery and that's just too long. I'm sorry Now that is playing video. As I said, it takes a lot of battery when you're doing normal e-ink e-paper type stuff People are you know who've been using this posting online about it or talking about you know a week of battery life possibly more So, you know, you won't have to charge it for three hours uh that often or ever if you kind of like Do some power sipping charging in the middle of the day But it is something that you will have to be aware of that like if you're like oops I forgot to charge you can't just like do a quick charge like it's gonna take a while you're gonna be there for a while Do some reading now against all recommendations devices like these are putting cameras on board uh I I shouldn't be sassy like that. Like I said, it's nice to have a device like this that can do anything That a Android device could do just uh poorly Just to have it, you know because then we have it say say cheese Got the 16 megapixel camera and now I'm doing my my this is my standard photo test I don't know if you've seen me do this before Mel. Oh, yeah And I won't be able to tell what those look like until uh, the editor gets them So, uh, you let me know in the comments. How do they look probably not great? It's not it's not lagging horribly like it's it's to the point where I can I can do it and I don't feel like I'm getting sick There's a selfie cam button, but there's no selfie cam on this device. It's just taunting me like remember Remember, this is not a phone. We talked about this I I'm happy to see that uh chrome supports kind of smooth scrolling instead of like jumping down by pages You know in some ways despite me saying that The way forward the way to not have brain rot is It's not a hardware solution despite me saying that using this thing. I kind of want to use it as my phone The minimal phone was like a very distinct experience. It was like listen, you have a problem Okay, it was Android it ran Android so it You know could do some stuff like this although it had its own skin on it You could still install apps and try to use it like another kind of Android phone But it was like it was still just kind of clunky this with the high refresh rate and the color and the familiar settings menus and stuff instead of like minimal zone sort of like custom skin This feels this felt pretty good. So in some ways, I'm a little sad that this does not have the capability to Make phone calls or make or do text messages, which I still sometimes do I admit it now That said despite this very much Feeling like using a normal Android device these companies are still putting very weak hardware in here It does have 128 gigs of storage to start and you can actually expand that up to two terabytes with the SD card combo SIM tray thingy. It's got that weak CPU. We talked about it's only got eight gigs of RAM Uh, which is now in 2025 not very much for a phone And so for a daily driver it probably would still be frustrating and then we're back into this whole like Do you want your phone to be frustrating? Maybe you want your phone to be frustrating so that you use it less But again, I don't think it's a hardware issue. I think it is a Self-control thing and I think it's also a platform thing We need to we need to make these platforms less brain rotty Because I don't want to use a crappy phone Especially for $400 which is like you can get a pretty decent budget phone for around that ballpark these days So it's $400 for the books palma 2 pro It's $46 for the books incense plus Um, which I will say I like to the experience of that, you know taking this on the go Taking notes annotating your screen saving it reading and I've said this on other videos And I apologize to anyone who's about to hear this, but I already read ebooks on my phone on my regular phone Uh in dark mode. Okay, so reading on an e Uh paper screen this small I'm fine with it. I'm also fine if you subscribe to the ShortCircuit Hey, uh, if you are interested in watching another video, perhaps you could consider watching a previous video Hosted by me, which is the remarkable paper. Uh pro move Which is $450 Books palma 2 pro poof palma 2 pro Open up books and give it a go when you're reading the books. Everything is so fine Just don't get it all the way to the end of the line"}