WEBVTT 00:00:00.600 --> 00:00:06.620 Was the was the title about your ARM it was about NVIDIA, right? Yeah, people already noticed 00:00:07.960 --> 00:00:15.020 They noticed what your ARM already. Yeah, how'd they notice when did we even go live must have been no, but thumbnail thumbnail 00:00:16.800 --> 00:00:21.840 Yeah Larius fast. I want it dude. They're fast 00:00:22.800 --> 00:00:33.720 What's up, Flo playing chat how you guys doing? Oh, well, we're after stretch. I'm so sore 00:00:38.520 --> 00:00:40.520 Okay 00:00:42.040 --> 00:00:48.060 All right More like took a week off and didn't shave it all shadow 00:00:52.200 --> 00:00:56.040 We'll talk about the ARM later 00:00:59.280 --> 00:01:01.280 Yeah, it was an adventure though for sure 00:01:04.120 --> 00:01:06.120 Definitely adventure 00:01:07.960 --> 00:01:09.960 Adventure time 00:01:13.560 --> 00:01:18.500 We made a video about this little underwater scooter thing it's pretty cool check this out 00:01:22.360 --> 00:01:26.720 I Wanted one and 00:01:27.600 --> 00:01:34.080 The thing in all the spy movies getting it shipped to my house was inconvenient. So I had procurement order it 00:01:34.080 --> 00:01:36.480 So to justify that I made a video 00:01:39.080 --> 00:01:45.400 So that's that was my youngest racing me going as fast as I could using this little scooter 00:01:52.520 --> 00:01:54.520 Oh my 00:02:04.080 --> 00:02:06.840 This thing friggin rips at full speed 00:02:11.120 --> 00:02:14.160 I know that this is not the world's best short but 00:02:14.800 --> 00:02:22.400 We can do better ones when I care and I'm not just trying to have logistics arrange the shipment for me 00:02:25.880 --> 00:02:31.960 She is moving in gear three so this is it in the maximum gear just like whoo 00:02:34.200 --> 00:02:37.280 Yeah, anyway, wow 00:02:44.680 --> 00:02:46.680 I 00:02:49.560 --> 00:02:53.160 Know the fur affinity hack is not gonna be part of today's WAN Show 00:02:55.480 --> 00:02:57.480 There a fur affinity hack I 00:02:59.400 --> 00:03:02.440 Assume there is based on your question. Yes 00:03:07.240 --> 00:03:14.280 Is that like a furry for him or what I don't know You said that really quickly because I'm looking it up right now 00:03:19.800 --> 00:03:21.800 Hmm interesting 00:03:31.800 --> 00:03:33.800 Apparently it's already back up 00:03:40.760 --> 00:03:47.600 No, I don't think we have any spare Vancouver skyline LTX most pads lying around I think we blew them away during lime day 00:03:52.600 --> 00:03:56.200 Linus needs to change his account names before he'll talk about the fur affinity hack 00:03:57.200 --> 00:04:00.640 I don't know. I I assume it's hyper sexualized. So 00:04:02.800 --> 00:04:07.400 Yeah, I Don't have too many accounts 00:04:08.160 --> 00:04:15.720 Too many. Yeah You guys home. Oh, we should probably add this to the dock. You just have a few fur affinity counts. Yep 00:04:16.280 --> 00:04:20.080 Just the right number. I have the right number of fur affinity counts. I'll let you 00:04:21.000 --> 00:04:25.480 I'll let you decide What the right number is zero yourself? 00:04:29.280 --> 00:04:36.360 69 account says chat is the right number. It's a lot of accounts. Is it though? Is it really? I mean when you consider 00:04:37.480 --> 00:04:41.800 All the factors all the different animals that you could be. Yes, they're really uh 00:04:49.000 --> 00:04:51.000 Oh wait, are we are we are we going live? 00:04:53.880 --> 00:04:59.080 Is it time? Okay, I'm doing it. Here we go. I hit it 00:05:07.400 --> 00:05:09.400 You 00:05:27.160 --> 00:05:33.680 What's up everyone welcome to the WAN Show we've got a great show lined up for you guys today and video has 00:05:34.200 --> 00:05:37.800 Quietly downgraded the hardware on the RTX 00:05:38.760 --> 00:05:42.360 4070 and I gotta say the timing for this is 00:05:43.280 --> 00:05:49.800 perfect just Today, I did the final review on a video that we have coming out on 00:05:50.160 --> 00:05:56.960 NVIDIA's scummy naming tactics and their renaming of cards that are not actually the same performance 00:05:56.960 --> 00:06:02.400 So we had to shoot a quick pickup when we saw the news for this and that video is gonna be coming out 00:06:02.400 --> 00:06:08.200 We're gonna seem like the most the most timely coverage of that whole thing and it's only because NVIDIA 00:06:08.200 --> 00:06:14.160 Does it so often that we could just make a video about it whenever and probably they'd do something scummy? 00:06:14.480 --> 00:06:18.400 I'm also gonna be talking about the fight that I got into 00:06:19.440 --> 00:06:23.800 During my week off here so you could see my ARM got done pretty good 00:06:23.800 --> 00:06:28.200 And it's kind of harder for you guys to see but this hand is quite swollen compared to that 00:06:28.200 --> 00:06:31.920 I mean that I'm sure they both look small, but this one is bigger than the other one 00:06:32.440 --> 00:06:37.280 So yeah, yeah, no, I can already yeah, what else we got without the comparison 00:06:37.280 --> 00:06:41.640 I saw AMD walks back unrealistic Ryzen 9,000 benchmarks and 00:06:42.240 --> 00:06:49.000 Peloton wants to skim money from secondhand sales because apparently it wasn't already expensive 00:06:49.000 --> 00:06:51.000 Who do they think they are the government? 00:07:01.920 --> 00:07:13.880 The show is brought to you today by jump cloud MSI 00:07:14.560 --> 00:07:21.720 Moosend and of course our chair partner secret lab. Why don't we jump right into our headline topic which is? 00:07:22.960 --> 00:07:29.680 NVIDIA and Shitifying their lineup. How do they think that this is acceptable? 00:07:29.680 --> 00:07:39.060 Well, I've done it a bunch of times and got away with it every single time So that's probably now not every single time talk about that at the very bottom of a news bulletin about game ready drivers 00:07:39.440 --> 00:07:48.080 NVIDIA Snackin a little sneaky announcement that they would be launching a new version of the RTX 4070 with GDDR6 00:07:48.760 --> 00:07:56.740 Memory instead of GDDR6X memory in September this they said would only reduce memory bandwidth from 00:07:57.580 --> 00:08:06.420 504 gigabytes per second to 480 gigabytes per second reducing bandwidth which NVIDIA says shouldn't impact performance however 00:08:07.700 --> 00:08:12.820 None of the new variants clearly indicate on the box that they are inferior to other 00:08:13.140 --> 00:08:16.920 4070s in this small but significant and I guarantee you 00:08:17.500 --> 00:08:25.260 Measurable way now NVIDIA has done this many times in the past where they've made a small change to a product whether it is 00:08:25.740 --> 00:08:34.140 And sometimes Sometimes it actually doesn't affect anything like you probably remember back in the day that you'd want to try and get like the 00:08:34.820 --> 00:08:41.260 8800 GT with the Samsung memory instead of the SK hynix or yeah, or you know vice versa or whatever 00:08:41.260 --> 00:08:49.820 You know whichever memory Whichever memory fab was making the the chips that would overclock the best back then but in terms of stock operation 00:08:50.260 --> 00:08:57.020 They would run at exactly the same speed. It was only overclockers that were interested in these little differences and 00:08:57.540 --> 00:09:02.980 You can you can totally on yeah, and miners of course moving sort of later on and 00:09:04.780 --> 00:09:11.460 While there's obvious business advantages and real justifications for dual sourcing parts, I mean 00:09:13.260 --> 00:09:17.660 Apple even has has dual sourced SOCs for example in their iPhones 00:09:18.220 --> 00:09:21.140 Samsung has done it many times in their galaxy flagships as 00:09:22.100 --> 00:09:25.420 Long as everything is up front as long as you know what you're buying 00:09:25.420 --> 00:09:31.220 I don't think you're gonna see the same degree of outrage But the way that NVIDIA has done this a number of times is 00:09:31.940 --> 00:09:35.860 Just plain. I don't know how to describe it other than wrong 00:09:36.220 --> 00:09:42.420 Like occasionally they do this and they compensate in other ways like we've seen in the past where they'll have the same 00:09:42.900 --> 00:09:48.620 Model number and there'll be potentially two different dies on it like two completely different chips on it 00:09:48.620 --> 00:09:52.860 But what they might do is the one that has a wider memory bus, okay? 00:09:52.860 --> 00:09:58.740 It might be clocked a little bit higher Or whatever the case may be so there could be differences and for example power consumption 00:09:58.820 --> 00:10:02.540 But not a difference in the FPS that you're gonna get when you're playing 00:10:02.540 --> 00:10:09.300 I don't know what what's that woo woo Kang or whatever that that new game that everyone's super excited about is Woo Kong 00:10:10.060 --> 00:10:15.140 Black myth Woo Kong, I think yeah black myth Woo Kong. Yeah, so you know what right like whatever game you're playing 00:10:15.180 --> 00:10:18.540 You're not gonna get a different frame rate and for most desktop users 00:10:18.540 --> 00:10:21.780 It's not gonna be the end of the world if it consumes 15 or 20 more watts 00:10:22.500 --> 00:10:30.060 This and you know what NVIDIA is probably right that this I mean, what does this work out to so? 00:10:30.940 --> 00:10:34.220 That would be a hundred gigabytes a second would be 10% 00:10:34.740 --> 00:10:40.700 So have so so what's about a 2% or 2 to 3% difference in memory bandwidth? 00:10:41.420 --> 00:10:45.020 Realistically, are you gonna notice that probably not but here's the thing 00:10:45.460 --> 00:10:51.620 If it's measurable it matters NVIDIA would have known that when they designed the RTX 4070 00:10:51.940 --> 00:10:57.260 They would have known the difference between GDDR6 and GDDR6 X memory, so 00:10:58.060 --> 00:11:02.580 they obviously made a choice at that time to go with GDDR6 X memory and 00:11:03.380 --> 00:11:07.700 If GDDR6 has caught up to GDDR6 X in terms of the 00:11:08.620 --> 00:11:14.200 the transfer rates and and it's and it's and it's and it's good enough then you know what 00:11:14.780 --> 00:11:23.600 Okay, but then it has to be the same then then bin them and run them at 24 gigabytes per second faster like I'm 00:11:24.660 --> 00:11:29.140 There's it's so easy to poke holes in the logic if this doesn't matter 00:11:29.140 --> 00:11:38.380 Then it wouldn't have mattered then and if it does matter Then you need to clearly label this and the thing is that there's ample precedent for NVIDIA labeling 00:11:39.180 --> 00:11:46.180 Especially their partners labeling different memory versions of cards like you you probably remember this like way back in the day 00:11:46.180 --> 00:11:54.620 When you'd be able to buy the same GPU, but with like desktop DDR to instead of GDDR because it was super cheap 00:11:54.620 --> 00:12:01.900 Yeah, now NVIDIA's justification for this is that the GDDR6 version will improve supply and availability 00:12:02.420 --> 00:12:09.820 Which is potentially a reference to reports from July that a batch of micron GDDR6 X memory had failed to pass QA 00:12:13.380 --> 00:12:21.180 But to me this is just such a clear Cut and dried case of NVIDIA needing to differentiate these cards. I I am 00:12:21.860 --> 00:12:26.220 I'm really annoyed What would make you happy 00:12:28.260 --> 00:12:30.260 Do you think this matters I 00:12:33.700 --> 00:12:40.940 Think it matters because it comes a controversial take. Yeah, Franby. I don't think you can give someone something that is lesser than what has been 00:12:42.460 --> 00:12:46.660 Not only advertised but released to reviewers 00:12:47.340 --> 00:12:53.580 So if people look up reviews of this thing, they will see a specific and I don't the the amount that it's different is almost irrelevant 00:12:53.860 --> 00:12:59.820 To me because you're opening a door Right for this to be able to happen again in the future and then what are you going to measure it every time? 00:12:59.820 --> 00:13:09.420 No, it's a little ridiculous. You have to say if it's okay or not, okay? So I think it's not okay because this has been tested reviewed people are making person purchasing decisions off of what is now incorrect information 00:13:09.740 --> 00:13:16.140 There is variance in between cards and in regards to overall performance and I could see that honestly being almost more impactful than 00:13:16.420 --> 00:13:19.140 This change in some scenarios. Yep, but I 00:13:19.820 --> 00:13:23.640 Don't but that's the thing is they could stack. Yeah, you could get the worst die 00:13:23.860 --> 00:13:31.820 And you could get the lower memory Yes, and all of a sudden that plus or minus a couple percent from one card to the next bigger is a little wider 00:13:31.820 --> 00:13:34.180 And I just I don't like that. I think at the very 00:13:35.420 --> 00:13:40.420 Like if you have to make a change like this, just call it something slightly different and make it cheaper 00:13:40.420 --> 00:13:45.140 And the thing is that NVIDIA has shown tight. Yeah, the fact that they're not even giving a discount. There's no discount 00:13:45.140 --> 00:13:54.020 What are you even if it's like? Ten bucks and they've shown time and time again that they are willing to communicate differences in products 00:13:54.020 --> 00:14:00.420 I mean look back at the light hash rate cards the ones that had the had the Bork mining capabilities. Yeah 00:14:00.980 --> 00:14:04.300 Don't tell me you guys that you're not willing to 00:14:05.540 --> 00:14:07.540 Communicate about a product revision 00:14:08.940 --> 00:14:15.620 Yeah, and it doesn't even need to be communicated in like a bad way because it isn't a very significant difference 00:14:16.220 --> 00:14:22.820 Exactly, so you don't have to call it like the bad version or whatever and it doesn't need to be a huge price drop 00:14:23.380 --> 00:14:26.660 but just like throw people a couple bones, yep, and 00:14:27.380 --> 00:14:32.220 Call it something slightly different. So there's a little bit of differentiation. It can even still be 4070 00:14:33.060 --> 00:14:35.980 4070 something 4070 light 4070 00:14:36.980 --> 00:14:42.060 I don't know 4070 something. I don't have a good name for it. Yeah, I'm trying to remember that light 00:14:42.500 --> 00:14:45.420 What's their face? ATI used to use SE 00:14:46.260 --> 00:14:51.260 And we it was they it was for special edition, obviously 00:14:51.260 --> 00:14:55.940 But the community called it slow edition because everyone knew that usually they were downgraded in some way 00:14:55.940 --> 00:15:02.980 Yeah, and so it's like there's precedent for this. There's so much precedent for this what there isn't I shouldn't say there isn't 00:15:02.980 --> 00:15:11.980 Precedent for it. No, actually, I don't think there is a precedent for just releasing a slower card and calling it exactly the same thing 00:15:12.060 --> 00:15:16.180 This type of stuff has happened with like SSDs, but yes, I don't think so 00:15:16.180 --> 00:15:20.580 I don't think this has been so we're opening up a new box here. Yeah, it's not good 00:15:20.580 --> 00:15:26.620 I am I'm pretty frustrated and I'm I'm the only thing that makes me happy about this is the fact that 00:15:26.900 --> 00:15:31.620 It happened right on the eve of our of our video coming out about this 00:15:32.300 --> 00:15:37.460 Because and I see people talking in the chat right now about times that NVIDIA has bamboozled them 00:15:37.940 --> 00:15:41.940 Here what am I looking at Archer pl in Floatplane chat says 00:15:42.620 --> 00:15:52.080 1063 gig was a fail and my biggest tech purchase mistake and as as we were working on this video on NVIDIA's scummy naming schemes 00:15:52.740 --> 00:16:00.520 Both the writer and I had personal stories of times when NVIDIA's crappy naming had had fooled them 00:16:00.660 --> 00:16:03.580 I've been fooled. I mean, we don't come into this hobby 00:16:03.660 --> 00:16:10.600 We don't come into this industry knowing everything and for me it was when I bought my aftalon XP system way back in the early 00:16:10.780 --> 00:16:16.500 2000s because I Was an ignorant consumer and when you're first starting out 00:16:16.500 --> 00:16:22.200 I feel like I feel like it's so easy for people to be gatekeepery and elitist and like 00:16:22.200 --> 00:16:26.100 Oh, you should have known better than to believe anything you read on user benchmark 00:16:26.380 --> 00:16:30.280 Everybody knows that right like like definitely not a lot of people actually use that site 00:16:30.280 --> 00:16:35.480 No, people don't know right and and the SEO to trash on it is cool because that'll help get the word out 00:16:35.720 --> 00:16:40.520 Yeah, tons of people use but don't attack the user don't attack the ignorant user who's new 00:16:40.520 --> 00:16:47.720 So, you know, I was still learning the ropes in terms of which sites could be could be trusted and and how to how to make 00:16:47.720 --> 00:16:53.000 My way through the marketing names into the actual tech specs and so I bought a motherboard 00:16:53.000 --> 00:16:59.600 I spent I think it was like 20 or 30 extra dollars or something like that on a motherboard that had on-board graphics because there 00:16:59.600 --> 00:17:02.140 Were different versions of NVIDIA's N-Force 2 00:17:02.760 --> 00:17:09.600 Motherboard chipset one without on-board graphics and one that had g-force for mx graphics and 00:17:10.080 --> 00:17:16.060 Looking at that as a consumer the latest version of g-force that you could buy in an add-in card for like 00:17:16.520 --> 00:17:19.680 Wow, those are like six or seven hundred dollars. That's crazy 00:17:19.680 --> 00:17:24.240 I so I can get I can get this motherboard. That's just 30 extra dollars 00:17:24.280 --> 00:17:29.600 And it has just the last generation built right onto it g-force 4 instead of g-force 5 00:17:30.000 --> 00:17:36.600 Well, that's great. At least I'll be able to game It supports the version of DirectX that I need to play this game 00:17:36.600 --> 00:17:42.480 I want right you got to put yourself in the mindset of somebody who who doesn't actually know anything about this yet 00:17:42.480 --> 00:17:46.760 Yeah, and so I bought a motherboard with g-force 4 mx graphics 00:17:47.600 --> 00:17:53.160 only to realize much later that g-force 4 mx is almost 00:17:54.160 --> 00:17:57.880 One-for-one copy-paste of g-force 2 00:17:58.800 --> 00:18:05.920 It wasn't even Remotely modern like the whole thing was just fake bullcrap and to be clear 00:18:06.360 --> 00:18:13.520 g-force 4 mx was leaps and bounds ahead of what Intel had for on-board graphics back then so it's not like I couldn't play my 00:18:13.520 --> 00:18:20.080 Warcraft 3 on it But what I didn't get was what I thought I was getting what the name 00:18:20.920 --> 00:18:27.520 represented and so we Pretty much. It's a great video. You guys are gonna want to watch it. We kind of run through 00:18:28.520 --> 00:18:35.760 everything that Not everything but we run through some key highlights of times that NVIDIA has advertised one thing and 00:18:36.120 --> 00:18:41.240 Delivered another and there's a couple of recent ones that are really bad 00:18:42.040 --> 00:18:48.720 Basically the 3056 gig is really the one that was at the 36. Yeah, I think it was the 3056 gig 00:18:48.720 --> 00:18:56.360 Was the one that really stood out to us as being particularly awful because it was two years in between the original card and 00:18:56.400 --> 00:19:03.680 the cut-down version and They call it just 3066 gig so they differentiate only by RAM 00:19:03.680 --> 00:19:08.920 But the GPU is different and because they launch know the GPU is the same for this one 00:19:08.920 --> 00:19:14.760 But the I'm trying to I'm trying to remember all the different things that are different. No, the clock speed is cut way down 00:19:15.440 --> 00:19:19.840 Cuda cores are down. I believe the die is the same. Okay, don't don't quote me on that though 00:19:19.840 --> 00:19:24.640 These are all details that I'm that I'm going through as we're working on the video 00:19:24.960 --> 00:19:27.960 Yeah, and I'm not going through in my brain right now 00:19:27.960 --> 00:19:33.920 Yeah, but basically the reason that I really didn't like that one and the reason that that one inspired this video was because it was two 00:19:33.920 --> 00:19:40.160 Years later and when NVIDIA launched that GPU kind of like this one. They just did a little sneaky sneak launch 00:19:40.240 --> 00:19:45.960 There's a blog post on their site and that's pretty much it was it at like the bot wasn't this one at the bottom 00:19:46.200 --> 00:19:54.280 This one was at the bottom of a game ready driver bulletin The other one got its own it got its own blog post, but like they didn't see it to reviewers 00:19:54.880 --> 00:20:00.560 so I only found a handful of reviews on it and because of the 00:20:01.240 --> 00:20:08.680 Because of the the large viewership on those older videos from two years ago and because of the similarity in the keywords 00:20:09.280 --> 00:20:14.280 even if you explicitly search for the for the 00:20:16.440 --> 00:20:22.240 The 30 56 gig even if you explicitly search for that you end up with results for the 30 58 gig 00:20:22.240 --> 00:20:25.160 Which could easily make you think that you're getting something that is 00:20:25.800 --> 00:20:28.520 significantly better than what you're actually buying and 00:20:29.080 --> 00:20:32.720 Because and because very few people even reviewed this later card 00:20:33.480 --> 00:20:38.040 It's it's really it's just really hard to tell that it is a completely 00:20:38.600 --> 00:20:42.600 Separate card, especially because as they released the six gig version 00:20:42.600 --> 00:20:46.960 They didn't even revise the name of the original one to add eight gig to it 00:20:47.960 --> 00:20:51.760 So there's just 30 50 and 30 56 gig 00:20:52.400 --> 00:20:57.240 Yeah, if I if I was even as a relatively informed consumer if I was looking at that 00:20:57.240 --> 00:21:02.440 I would assume it was just a RAM difference between the guards and we talk about that we talk about how a 00:21:02.440 --> 00:21:08.480 Lot of regular consumers, especially the ones buying a more mid-range or entry-level gaming card 00:21:08.480 --> 00:21:17.480 They're gonna be relying on a sales rep at a big box store They are not necessarily gonna be the ones that are going and pouring over articles and review videos and honestly with 00:21:18.000 --> 00:21:22.960 Experience of this a lot of sales rep at big box store people are not gonna look into it 00:21:22.960 --> 00:21:28.480 They're just gonna see the the size difference of the memory and then try to sell that to users as they're the same thing 00:21:28.480 --> 00:21:32.280 But there's more RAM on this one and and that's not I don't even blame them 00:21:32.800 --> 00:21:37.280 Because if you could be even a fairly knowledgeable sales rep 00:21:37.280 --> 00:21:43.720 And if you were just a little bit out of date like you used to be able to buy cards that were the exact same cards 8800 00:21:44.600 --> 00:21:49.200 GTS is an example. It was available with 320 megabytes or 00:21:49.960 --> 00:21:53.640 640 megabytes of VRAM and if you weren't running at a high resolution 00:21:54.600 --> 00:21:58.680 So you you know you weren't gonna buy two of them and run them in SLI and hook them up to a 00:21:59.120 --> 00:22:05.880 1600p monitor or whatever else if you weren't doing that the 320 megabyte version performed exactly the same there's also like 00:22:06.240 --> 00:22:13.400 ever expecting a like a minimum wage sales rep to go above and beyond just reading the card is 00:22:14.040 --> 00:22:19.560 like and So even if though even if they had some of that knowledge and knew oh, yeah 00:22:19.560 --> 00:22:25.080 The bigger frame buffer is more important if you're gonna run at a high resolution or if you're gonna install a bunch of texture mods 00:22:25.080 --> 00:22:28.360 And stuff like that they could still end up misleading the customer 00:22:29.280 --> 00:22:33.400 So the fact that this was done so quietly is I guess what 00:22:34.840 --> 00:22:40.560 What demonstrates that NVIDIA knows that what they're doing is wrong, right? Like it's like when your kids 00:22:40.720 --> 00:22:44.820 It's like when your kids are you know watching TV, right? 00:22:45.560 --> 00:22:49.640 If they if they know they're not supposed to be doing it the volumes way down 00:22:50.280 --> 00:22:54.440 You know so you come in you're like hey, you know, you're not supposed to be watching TV 00:22:54.440 --> 00:23:00.280 Oh, no, I didn't know I didn't know okay Well, why is the TV muted and you're watching with subtitles? You don't do that normally 00:23:01.720 --> 00:23:06.400 Right like it this is one of those things where I feel like this is something that happened there 00:23:06.400 --> 00:23:09.760 They're well actually my kids are really good. I'm 00:23:11.120 --> 00:23:14.160 Maybe talking about my own childhood here. Okay 00:23:16.800 --> 00:23:23.000 Now are they really good or if they just learned very well how to hide things I really I really doubt that 00:23:23.880 --> 00:23:31.920 Yeah, no, no, no, no cuz like look they don't have to ask permission to like watch TV when I'm sleeping in so 00:23:32.160 --> 00:23:36.920 They they can't like get busted for that. Is that like a fun rule that you have you sleep in too long? 00:23:36.920 --> 00:23:41.680 They just do whatever not do whatever like turn on when you wake up 00:23:41.680 --> 00:23:48.720 They can't do whatever but it's a little more loosey-goosey if I if I need a morning sleep in yeah 00:23:49.440 --> 00:23:53.560 That's kind of fun I 00:23:53.560 --> 00:23:57.640 Mean that's like why Saturday morning cartoons existed, you know, right? So I 00:23:58.320 --> 00:24:01.440 You gotta keep continue the tradition Saturday morning do whatever 00:24:02.720 --> 00:24:08.080 All right, why don't we move on to I want to talk about Peloton sure. Yeah, this is 00:24:08.800 --> 00:24:13.120 Freaking wild so our source here is the verge and also Peloton 00:24:13.400 --> 00:24:17.880 Directly because they appear to have no shame about this in a recent earnings call 00:24:18.440 --> 00:24:26.880 Peloton announced that they will be adding a $95 activation fee for second-hand exercise machines in the US and Canada 00:24:27.400 --> 00:24:32.880 This does not apply to refurbished machines bought through Peloton 00:24:32.960 --> 00:24:37.680 But it does apply to any machine bought directly from its previous owner 00:24:38.960 --> 00:24:41.920 Thanks, the fee will apparently cover a 00:24:42.480 --> 00:24:49.400 Virtual custom fitting which we have no idea what that means for bike and bike plus customers and a history slash 00:24:49.600 --> 00:24:53.960 summary of the device a Regular price machine is 00:24:55.160 --> 00:25:00.360 $1,445 while used bikes range from 300 to $500 there's likewise a 00:25:01.120 --> 00:25:04.800 $44 monthly membership fee to access Peloton content 00:25:05.760 --> 00:25:09.520 so I Think I've talked about this 00:25:09.760 --> 00:25:12.960 I Think I've talked about this a fair bit 00:25:13.000 --> 00:25:19.600 Whether it's on the WAN Show or whether it's scrapyard boys or wherever else if you want to know the value of something 00:25:19.720 --> 00:25:27.120 You don't look at the retail price Yeah, the value of something is what it's worth on the second-hand market now 00:25:27.120 --> 00:25:33.840 That doesn't mean that you should never buy anything new Because if you look at something on the second-hand market and you go, oh wow 00:25:34.400 --> 00:25:38.360 That still costs 80% of what a brand new one does 00:25:38.640 --> 00:25:44.640 Boy, I would sure like a a brand new warranty and this is a piece of exercise equipment 00:25:44.640 --> 00:25:47.960 You know, I would just love to have something that nobody ever sweated on 00:25:48.760 --> 00:25:53.920 Whatever the case a lot of them are designed to be that is very fair a lot of them are designed to be very easily clean 00:25:53.920 --> 00:25:59.360 I know I mean if they do have little rips and tears and stuff It can really seep in there. It can get it can get real 00:26:00.320 --> 00:26:05.680 I want to know for sure that what I'm buying hasn't been in a has been in a smoke-free household 00:26:05.760 --> 00:26:11.520 Sure, whatever your personal sensitivities are right then I think there's absolutely a valid case to be made for 00:26:11.920 --> 00:26:16.120 Paying extra and getting a brand new X, you know, whatever it is 00:26:18.480 --> 00:26:22.680 But when you go to the second-hand market and you go hmm 00:26:23.480 --> 00:26:27.480 These are $1,500 new and I can pick one up for like 00:26:28.520 --> 00:26:36.480 $400 Why exactly is it that people are willing to let these go for a thousand dollars less than what they're worth? 00:26:37.280 --> 00:26:45.560 Because that's how much they're worth And in the case of Peloton, I think it's pretty clear that with the $44 00:26:46.240 --> 00:26:52.280 Monthly membership fee that that is a huge drag on the value of these machines 00:26:52.800 --> 00:26:56.360 because people buying second-hand are generally not that into paying 00:26:56.400 --> 00:27:03.120 $500 a year in order to continue to use something that they've bought they tend to be value conscious 00:27:03.200 --> 00:27:11.120 So what the used market is is it's a barometer for what a value conscious person is willing to pay for something? 00:27:11.320 --> 00:27:16.000 So it can kind of help you sort of realign and if you decide look I want a peloton 00:27:16.560 --> 00:27:21.200 Regardless then that's totally your decision and I'm not going to tell you what you can or can't spend your money on 00:27:21.320 --> 00:27:28.560 But what I will tell you is that there's obviously a group out there that is looking at the value proposition of this thing and going wow 00:27:28.560 --> 00:27:36.160 That is absolute madness So let's talk about why this activation fee exists then so for one thing obviously 00:27:36.720 --> 00:27:42.640 Peloton is recognizing that these extremely low priced second-hand machines are 00:27:43.280 --> 00:27:50.060 Hurting their ability to sell new machines because they're opening people's eyes to what this product is is worth 00:27:50.060 --> 00:27:55.540 When you have to pay such an obnoxiously high prescription a subscription fee for it 00:27:55.820 --> 00:27:59.540 the other thing that Peloton is doing is they are 00:28:00.540 --> 00:28:03.360 Trying to make these used products less appealing 00:28:03.820 --> 00:28:07.000 Because if a brand new one doesn't have the activation fee 00:28:07.220 --> 00:28:13.560 But a second-hand one does then it's almost like putting it's almost like a country putting import tariffs on 00:28:14.200 --> 00:28:19.840 Competing let's say for example of vehicles, right? So you're essentially saying okay, well 00:28:20.960 --> 00:28:26.640 Our product is not competitive our domestic product is not competitive. So instead of making it competitive 00:28:27.240 --> 00:28:31.440 We're just going to add a 00:28:31.720 --> 00:28:36.240 Disadvantage to anything that gets imported to any other option on the market and to be clear 00:28:36.240 --> 00:28:41.960 I'm not saying that import tariffs are always just sort of protectionist bullsh**t 00:28:42.160 --> 00:28:49.600 There are cases where you could look at a particular industry and the way that it's getting subsidized by a foreign adversary 00:28:49.880 --> 00:28:58.260 And go hmm. I couldn't help noticing that you're selling these way below the cost that it would cost to make them 00:28:58.680 --> 00:29:02.880 In an effort to destroy our domestic industry in the long term 00:29:03.960 --> 00:29:07.840 That's a type of warfare and I would actually prefer if you didn't do that 00:29:07.880 --> 00:29:13.440 Lots of other things like data collection that happens through devices and like absolutely a pretty considerable amount of other reasons 00:29:13.440 --> 00:29:18.000 Why you might not want to just have no tariff full open market? 00:29:18.000 --> 00:29:26.760 I'm just using it as as an example to demonstrate the other kinds of approaches that exist to shore up the competitiveness of 00:29:26.760 --> 00:29:31.000 Our own uncompetitive product when there are other options available 00:29:32.200 --> 00:29:35.240 Peloton suffered significant financial losses last year 00:29:35.640 --> 00:29:42.000 241 million dollars while its losses this year look to be relatively modest at just 30 million dollars 00:29:42.440 --> 00:29:45.320 This is something that I've had a really hard time figuring out 00:29:47.760 --> 00:29:53.120 How How do you lose 30 million dollars selling? 00:29:54.160 --> 00:29:59.880 $1,500 exercise bikes. I'm trying to look this up. Apparently they have 3,584 employees 00:30:00.960 --> 00:30:04.600 Why I'm really trying to figure that part of that question out 00:30:04.600 --> 00:30:09.600 I don't know yet. Is that what you've been sitting typity typing about away on your computer. Oh, no 00:30:09.600 --> 00:30:12.440 I was I'm planning a video actually 00:30:13.960 --> 00:30:20.580 Am I being am I being? bamboozled you're a quote of yours may be being questioned. Oh 00:30:21.680 --> 00:30:31.160 What did I say? That you can I think the quote was that you can guarantee that there is a measurable difference of the new GPUs. Oh, yeah 00:30:31.160 --> 00:30:34.400 So we're gonna go see oh, okay. I don't know if it'll actually be a video 00:30:34.800 --> 00:30:39.360 Okay, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey measurable measurable can be very small 00:30:39.520 --> 00:30:42.640 You just have to be able to Abel measure 00:30:43.880 --> 00:30:52.120 Abel measure measure Abel measurable. Yeah, but yeah, I know I'm trying to figure out like what what do they actually do? 00:30:53.000 --> 00:30:57.680 The instructors seem to be like I would imagine their contractors live 00:30:59.040 --> 00:31:05.800 People this isn't like recordings Okay, Peloton instructor makes twenty nine dollars and eleven cents an hour. Okay 00:31:07.280 --> 00:31:10.280 That seems like a weird choice, but sure 00:31:11.280 --> 00:31:15.240 I mean if that's part of their shtick though is like hey, it's you know, 40 00:31:15.960 --> 00:31:22.880 $44 a month, but it's an actual person. Yep. Yep. I can see that it laid off about 12% of its staff at around 500 people in October of 00:31:22.960 --> 00:31:26.960 2022, but it still has the like thirty four hundred employees. Okay 00:31:27.640 --> 00:31:32.080 and Yeah, I don't know what they all do all day necessarily 00:31:33.360 --> 00:31:35.360 I'm sure something 00:31:36.560 --> 00:31:42.760 Alright, there's a lot of companies like I've I've looked into quite a few that I'm just like man like what 00:31:43.680 --> 00:31:45.680 People are like marketing basically 00:31:47.160 --> 00:31:51.800 But that's like that's such a weird thing to me like I I feel like the whole 00:31:52.680 --> 00:31:55.880 the whole calculation has just gotten kind of 00:31:56.480 --> 00:32:02.120 Perverted in a sense like by the VC money that is dumping into that is dumping into 00:32:02.960 --> 00:32:05.760 Whatever industry it is, right? So okay 00:32:06.440 --> 00:32:12.040 Peloton takes on a bunch of VC money that they use to buy up basically every ad 00:32:12.040 --> 00:32:15.960 It juices up the price of the ads which effectively is just like 00:32:16.560 --> 00:32:22.120 Causing even themselves to throw more money more money into the into the money furnace 00:32:22.120 --> 00:32:28.960 And then it makes it so that you know anyone else who wants to advertise in that vertical is going to be paying so much and it's and it's 00:32:29.720 --> 00:32:39.120 By definition, it's at the point of unsustainability These ads are clearly costing more in customer acquisition than they're making back from selling the bikes 00:32:39.960 --> 00:32:43.440 Well, that's not that's not it doesn't work. Why don't they just? 00:32:44.160 --> 00:32:47.840 Stop paying an amount for ads that they can't recoup and 00:32:48.440 --> 00:32:54.720 I'm sure there's reasons for this right like I'm sure peloton's CEO if they have to answer to their shareholders about 00:32:55.000 --> 00:32:58.720 Why their shipment volumes are down 30% is just like well 00:32:58.720 --> 00:33:05.040 I'm not willing to pay that much for ads then you know the the investors in peloton are gonna look at that and they're gonna go 00:33:05.040 --> 00:33:12.520 Yeah, but this other you know exercise bike company They're buying lots of ads and they're eating up all of our market share and and it's a subscription business 00:33:12.520 --> 00:33:15.920 So ultimately they're hoping to make money from you in the very long term anyway 00:33:15.960 --> 00:33:22.680 So if this acquisition cost just keeps going up, then I don't know Maybe we'll just increase the subscription price and maybe we'll add a maybe we'll add a 00:33:24.200 --> 00:33:30.520 What's it called the virtual custom fitting with a $95 activation fee and just extract even more money 00:33:30.800 --> 00:33:39.080 Have you figured out why peloton spend so much money? Well, one of the ideas is that I didn't realize they had their own dedicated physical stores. Oh 00:33:40.240 --> 00:33:44.440 That's stupid. Yeah Okay 00:33:44.480 --> 00:33:47.640 And it doesn't seem like a very insignificant amount of them 00:33:48.520 --> 00:33:51.000 Like there's four between Vancouver and Seattle 00:33:51.680 --> 00:33:55.720 Really? Yeah, why do you need okay? Why do you need one? 00:33:58.240 --> 00:34:04.760 Man, I remember having this conversation with NCIX leadership way back in the day I pitched NCIX light 00:34:05.640 --> 00:34:09.480 and basically what I wanted it to be was like I 00:34:10.480 --> 00:34:17.300 Don't know so here. What's what's the the the plate? We're sitting on right now is I think about 1800 square feet 00:34:17.520 --> 00:34:21.800 So what I had in mind was something in the neighborhood of about a third of this 00:34:22.080 --> 00:34:29.000 So like 500 to 600 square feet and essentially what it is is do you remember how some of the NCIX stores back in the day 00:34:29.000 --> 00:34:35.480 We're essentially just like a couple computers in the front where you could browse their website or other websites 00:34:35.480 --> 00:34:40.880 But usually their website they preferred if you stuck to their website instead of comparison shopping 00:34:41.200 --> 00:34:44.000 So a couple computers where you could browse their website a 00:34:44.640 --> 00:34:50.520 Small back room and what I what I pitched and this was honestly one of the big friction points because I was like look 00:34:50.520 --> 00:34:57.040 I only want to carry like the top three products in a category like we're gonna have 00:34:57.840 --> 00:35:02.920 At the time this would have been because it's not really supposed to be a browsing experience. Yeah, this would have been probably 00:35:03.720 --> 00:35:05.720 What like 00:35:06.840 --> 00:35:14.600 Second gen core or something like that. So okay, so we're gonna or like maybe third gen so we're gonna have the 3700 K 00:35:15.240 --> 00:35:19.160 We're gonna. Oh, no, that would have been later. So we'll have the 2600 K the 00:35:19.640 --> 00:35:26.000 2500 K and then like one, you know value AMD option. We basically take our top three selling CPUs. That's 00:35:26.640 --> 00:35:29.980 It we take our top three selling RAM SKUs 00:35:29.980 --> 00:35:33.620 So basically I have to build like the most commonly built computer 00:35:34.500 --> 00:35:41.380 Exactly, and then whatever you have a small small tech area where you could take on like a half a dozen 00:35:41.980 --> 00:35:48.340 Probably about similar to like Keith's back room But he does a lot of so that at black black lab computers 00:35:48.420 --> 00:35:54.140 But he does a lot of mobile and that really wasn't mobile technician stuff was not a thing that NCIX did back then 00:35:54.540 --> 00:35:59.900 So we wouldn't have been doing that we'd be doing desktops only so you'd have a small like intake area and a couple work benches 00:36:00.100 --> 00:36:06.260 For doing servicing and then what I had pitched was that we would essentially have our trucks 00:36:06.260 --> 00:36:11.220 Which we already had so we already had kind of our truck fleet that went between the stores is we would have a truck 00:36:11.220 --> 00:36:15.140 That just drove back and forth between the DC and the stores 00:36:15.860 --> 00:36:19.780 Continuously so that people could save on shipping and use it as a pickup depot 00:36:19.780 --> 00:36:23.700 This was years before Amazon implemented their pickup depot concept. Yeah 00:36:24.620 --> 00:36:28.860 So to pay the rent the idea was that we would do the servicing there 00:36:28.860 --> 00:36:36.440 We had a trusted brand name and then to effectively and then to bolster the retail business 00:36:36.500 --> 00:36:42.780 We would have this this kind of this fixed cost essentially of these trucks going back and forth between the DCs 00:36:43.140 --> 00:36:51.380 so that you could Go get anything you needed in an emergency and then you could get any of the more esoteric stuff within let's say 00:36:51.500 --> 00:36:56.300 You know three to four days or whatever it works out to but with free shipping 00:36:56.300 --> 00:36:59.860 I think it would have been an absolute game-changer and 00:37:00.900 --> 00:37:07.020 Basically, I'm looking at this Peloton thing and I'm going if their stores are any more than like a bike 00:37:08.140 --> 00:37:16.540 Yeah, I Okay, what are they if they have cafes in them? See that's what I'm talking about like if if they kept it really simple 00:37:16.540 --> 00:37:21.220 And it was just an experience Location and it's absolutely tiny 00:37:21.340 --> 00:37:26.920 I'd be I'd be totally fine with that and probably the overhead would be way less. I gotta say man 00:37:27.700 --> 00:37:33.580 traveling overseas really opens my mind sometimes in terms of how 00:37:34.340 --> 00:37:41.940 how broken and How bureaucratic the way we do things here are like I'm not saying that we should go full like 00:37:42.300 --> 00:37:48.900 Anyone can run their own electrical wire up to the you know the pole or whatever like you see in some really scary images 00:37:48.980 --> 00:37:57.660 I'm not saying that we should just completely Deregulate everything, but I remember staying in that gaming hotel back in Taiwan like five years ago 00:37:57.660 --> 00:38:04.780 Do the like retail experience in Taiwan is amazing dude that hotel was just a floor of an office building 00:38:04.780 --> 00:38:11.900 Yeah, that they renovated and turned into a hotel. Why does a hotel have to be in its own dedicated giant building? 00:38:12.060 --> 00:38:19.700 That's zoned hotel and only hotel why we showed up. I thought that was super weird within an hour 00:38:19.700 --> 00:38:23.940 I was like, oh, it literally doesn't matter at all. Yeah, why do we care about this? Yeah? 00:38:23.940 --> 00:38:30.700 Yeah, in fact, it's way better because now if I had business with a company that worked on a different floor of that building 00:38:30.700 --> 00:38:34.540 I can just stay in the hotel that's on a different floor of the same building 00:38:34.540 --> 00:38:42.100 You also just like as you're as you're going out in the morning You go downstairs of the hotel and there's a 7-eleven the hotel doesn't have to make its own like 00:38:42.500 --> 00:38:47.780 Probably garbage restaurant because most hotel restaurants suck some of them are great, but most of them suck. Yeah 00:38:48.260 --> 00:38:52.140 Like I yeah, I don't know. It's cool need zoning laws. Yeah, so they need to 00:38:52.940 --> 00:38:56.060 Needful doer says the wrong says fire code Linus fire code 00:38:56.740 --> 00:39:00.660 Well, no, you should still absolutely adhere to fire code 00:39:01.500 --> 00:39:07.420 But what is the difference between the fire code of an office building and the fire code of a hotel building? 00:39:07.500 --> 00:39:12.940 They're both a high-rise structure. Who cares what I put on this floor or what I put on that floor 00:39:12.940 --> 00:39:18.140 And if you're gonna tell me, okay, look Linus, you're gonna have to you're gonna have to deal with you know 00:39:18.140 --> 00:39:24.900 The maximum occupancy of the of the highest occupancy sort of permitted use of the building sure fine 00:39:25.900 --> 00:39:29.700 No problem. Yeah, but why do we have this? 00:39:30.300 --> 00:39:36.420 Extremely rigid approach to things. Why is it that the second apple opened up these experience stores? 00:39:37.020 --> 00:39:40.340 Every retailer and their dog is sitting here going, okay 00:39:40.340 --> 00:39:46.260 How do I use the square footage that I have in my location in the least efficient way possible? 00:39:46.540 --> 00:39:49.460 Like I've told you about my game that I like playing at airports, right? 00:39:50.580 --> 00:39:53.620 You don't know about my airport game. You probably have but I can't think about 00:39:53.900 --> 00:39:59.700 This is my okay It's less fun these days now that I have played it enough that I have some idea 00:39:59.740 --> 00:40:05.020 But I had this game that I invented for myself back when I used to fly a lot and I called it 00:40:06.100 --> 00:40:12.340 How much does that cost? Oh, yes, okay. No, no that costs how much that's what that's what I used to call it 00:40:12.340 --> 00:40:19.140 That's that cost how much so what I would do is I would walk around and there's an airport and is it is it Beijing Shanghai? 00:40:19.140 --> 00:40:24.380 I don't know Shenzhen whatever one of the one of the big Chinese airports has a mall behind it 00:40:24.380 --> 00:40:34.340 Have you been to a Tuas and Mills? No, I've seen pictures okay, so one of the Chinese airports can't remember which one has a mall behind security 00:40:34.340 --> 00:40:42.980 You literally cannot access this shopping mall unless you have an an aircraft ticket and you have gone through security. I 00:40:43.820 --> 00:40:46.580 Swear to God, it's like bigger than Tuas and Mills 00:40:47.260 --> 00:40:54.020 It is freaking Enormous, I'm assuming an incredible amount of people go through there every day 00:40:55.580 --> 00:40:58.660 If they make it work who cares it's freaking enormous anyway 00:40:58.660 --> 00:41:08.020 So a lot of airports have Shockingly large shopping centers in them and something that I would always wonder to myself is you know other than a bag of jolly ranchers 00:41:08.420 --> 00:41:15.500 What are people buying at the airport? Because sometimes it's not even like duty-free right or oh really yeah 00:41:15.540 --> 00:41:21.460 Sometimes it's not even like a huge cost advantage or whatever like why are you buying jewelry at an airport? Yes? 00:41:21.460 --> 00:41:26.200 It's gold. It's a commodity. It costs whatever it costs general. I have no idea why 00:41:27.500 --> 00:41:33.500 Almost any store that isn't like a restaurant or a convenience store or like a in case you forgot it 00:41:33.820 --> 00:41:37.260 Charge your headphone data cable. Yeah pillow thing sure 00:41:37.260 --> 00:41:43.580 I don't understand why any source other than those really who's buying up who's buying a luxury watch at the airport 00:41:43.580 --> 00:41:48.780 I don't get it but anyway. Anyway, sorry. So my game that costs how much all spying don't do that 00:41:48.780 --> 00:41:52.980 What do you what are you impulse buying a $30,000 timepiece for stop it? 00:41:53.980 --> 00:42:02.160 so anyway my So my game is I would walk until I found a store whose name I didn't recognize 00:42:02.900 --> 00:42:06.660 Okay, so I first became aware of Louis Vuitton 00:42:06.820 --> 00:42:13.020 When a friend of mine in high school dropped by my house to do something and they wouldn't get out of their car 00:42:13.580 --> 00:42:16.060 because our driveway wasn't paved and 00:42:17.700 --> 00:42:24.580 They had Louis Vuitton shoes they had Louis Vuitton shoes and that was one of it's like a I have some core memories of 00:42:24.740 --> 00:42:30.740 times when I have laughed at people like not like haha you idiot, but just like 00:42:31.700 --> 00:42:35.460 Like I couldn't stop laughing and it was at a person 00:42:36.140 --> 00:42:39.880 over the ups just utterly ridiculous way that they were behaving 00:42:40.020 --> 00:42:44.900 One of the other times was when someone explained to me the concept of a LAN party 00:42:45.520 --> 00:42:49.860 Which I have now come around to But as a normie it was pretty funny 00:42:58.240 --> 00:43:02.240 That in hindsight is hilarious It's ridiculous 00:43:13.680 --> 00:43:18.400 How early were your computer nerd at what age did you not know when you were laughing at people for this dude? 00:43:18.400 --> 00:43:22.720 I was in like grade 10 When did you this was the this was a summer after grade 10? 00:43:22.720 --> 00:43:25.840 I didn't get into computers till like after you even though I'm years older than you 00:43:26.840 --> 00:43:31.120 Do we've been through this I mean like I liked playing video games 00:43:31.320 --> 00:43:34.240 But the concept of me and a bunch of like sweaty 00:43:36.000 --> 00:43:41.220 Network together in a room playing games. I was like that's what you did for your birthday party 00:43:42.200 --> 00:43:44.200 Don't you have laser tag? 00:43:45.560 --> 00:43:50.760 Did you not play paint well, that's like every birthday party I had after I was like 14 or something 00:43:50.760 --> 00:43:58.000 Yeah, exactly right so that was one of them And then one of the other ones that sticks out in my mind is the time that buddy wouldn't get out of his car at my house 00:43:58.320 --> 00:44:02.160 Because he was afraid of getting his Louis Vuitton shoes dirty. He was like they're Louis Vuitton 00:44:02.160 --> 00:44:07.480 I'm like, what does that even mean what what's a Louis Vuitton and why would I care is that like Nike or whatever? 00:44:07.480 --> 00:44:12.820 He's like These are $1,300 shoes or whatever and like I lost it. I 00:44:13.400 --> 00:44:21.760 Was like, I'm sorry I thought the function of shoes is to keep your feet from getting dirty, but you can't even walk with them like what? 00:44:22.320 --> 00:44:27.000 What's the point of them and you can't even walk on something anyway, he was not impressed 00:44:27.680 --> 00:44:29.680 We haven't been in touch since high school 00:44:31.320 --> 00:44:36.840 The point the point is I recognize that you know like I I recognize 00:44:38.640 --> 00:44:42.000 Like some of some of the you know the more mainstream 00:44:42.120 --> 00:44:47.120 But dude, I promise you as someone who's not into the world of high fashion 00:44:47.120 --> 00:44:52.960 If you were to go to one of those like luxury malls, you probably wouldn't even recognize the names of 00:44:53.920 --> 00:44:59.400 No, I know Over half of these stores and just walking through the airport. I find new ones basically every time 00:44:59.400 --> 00:45:04.440 Yeah, so the game is you go you have to go to one you don't recognize and then you have to 00:45:05.000 --> 00:45:13.840 Usually it's best if you're with someone You have to play play prices right rules and you have to try to guess how much it costs without going over and I swear to God 00:45:13.840 --> 00:45:16.880 It's practically impossible never gonna go over 00:45:17.240 --> 00:45:24.480 Well, no, no, no, no, oh you can you can but it's so hard because the difference between a $2,000 sneaker and 00:45:26.000 --> 00:45:29.700 $4,000 sneaker is not evident to me. There was a bunch of 00:45:30.480 --> 00:45:37.760 Italian super luxury brands that just got brutally ousted. I don't know if you saw this. I hope I didn't get any of this wrong 00:45:37.760 --> 00:45:41.920 It's not in the dock, but there was like a raid on a 00:45:42.640 --> 00:45:49.320 Manufacturing place in somewhere in Italy, I believe it was was because they wanted to be able to keep saying that their stuff 00:45:49.320 --> 00:45:53.440 Was made in Italy. Yeah, they wanted to be able to get it made for cheaper 00:45:53.880 --> 00:45:57.640 So they were basically running like a sweatshop, but in Italy 00:45:58.440 --> 00:46:05.440 And they found like in the raid it came out like what the actual materials that were used and stuff because it was like some 00:46:05.440 --> 00:46:10.440 I believe there was some form of legal process. So certain documents were revealed to the public 00:46:11.080 --> 00:46:17.200 It's like insane like, I don't know like $20,000 per $40 of leather type situation. Well, yeah, 50 00:46:17.200 --> 00:46:20.880 I think it was 50,000 percent markups dude and stuff cow is a 00:46:22.240 --> 00:46:29.880 Cow's a cow like I Having having spent some time now in the apparel industry 00:46:29.880 --> 00:46:37.600 I Can tell you guys it doesn't cost that much more to make a high quality. I mean look actually 00:46:37.600 --> 00:46:42.120 Oh, yeah, I want I wanted to talk about this this week. We won the overall 00:46:43.640 --> 00:46:46.800 Highest grade on Project Farms youtuber merch 00:46:47.480 --> 00:46:54.520 T-shirt test. Yeah, it was cool. So we didn't come out on top in terms of what were the two categories comfort or durability 00:46:54.880 --> 00:46:59.160 We weren't the softest that was one of the big knocks against us for comfort and 00:47:00.440 --> 00:47:05.320 Our our material fade was on the higher side compared to some of the other ones 00:47:05.840 --> 00:47:11.920 But I mean I can I could talk for a very long time about the trade-offs that exist 00:47:11.920 --> 00:47:17.340 So softness can often come at the cost of more pilling. Yeah, and Todd did really well 00:47:17.340 --> 00:47:23.640 I didn't notice that we don't have a lot of pilling. There's There's reasons why we do the things that we do 00:47:25.280 --> 00:47:32.560 Anyway the difference between our shirt in terms of my cost on on it compared to like a 00:47:33.000 --> 00:47:40.240 Like a Haynes beefy tea, you know, like just a bottom bottom of the barrel like mainstream shirt is not 00:47:40.840 --> 00:47:47.600 Much it's like a few dollars. That's why even with printing which is done here in Canada and on both sides 00:47:47.600 --> 00:47:51.440 We still do the Okay, this is a staff shirt from LTX 00:47:51.440 --> 00:47:57.080 But whatever we still do the little LTT logo in the back even with both sides screen printing high quality screen printing 00:47:57.120 --> 00:48:01.400 We scored really well on our screen printing quality as well in the durability of our prints 00:48:02.120 --> 00:48:05.800 Outstanding which we already knew but hey, it's good to have third parties validate these things 00:48:06.480 --> 00:48:09.080 Even with that. That's why our shirts are still 1999 00:48:09.920 --> 00:48:17.120 A lot of merch shirts are 30 or even $40 or more you go to a concert. You're probably paying $50 $60 00:48:18.120 --> 00:48:23.800 That is not that shirt does not cost three times what this one costs higher quality materials don't 00:48:24.120 --> 00:48:31.360 Cost that much they do tend to put our products at the higher end of what a you know given category will cost 00:48:31.720 --> 00:48:34.220 But I don't think completely outlandish 00:48:34.960 --> 00:48:38.880 And so yeah, it doesn't surprise me at all to find out that that 00:48:39.280 --> 00:48:43.080 $40,000 purse is made out of you know, 40 bucks or a couple hundred bucks worth of leather 00:48:44.000 --> 00:48:49.920 Apparently that I was just skimming over an article for it I this isn't a prep topic if you're interested in you should look into yourself 00:48:49.920 --> 00:48:53.120 But yeah, it was it was like Dior and a couple other brands like that 00:48:53.120 --> 00:48:58.480 But they they ended up finding that they had inhumane working conditions for the manufacturing of the 00:48:59.120 --> 00:49:03.080 Stuff and they were they were by I think it was a bag was 00:49:03.960 --> 00:49:07.240 $57 and it was selling for 2600 or something like that 00:49:07.840 --> 00:49:13.680 So like there's obviously no reason for the inhumane working conditions when you're making that much margin 00:49:14.320 --> 00:49:22.920 There's never a good reason for inhumane working conditions But I do kind of wonder with some of the clientele for those types of products if does that make it better? 00:49:24.160 --> 00:49:26.680 This is what make it better inhumane working conditions 00:49:28.840 --> 00:49:32.600 That's a weird psychological dive that we're not gonna be able to answer right now, but 00:49:38.240 --> 00:49:44.000 Feel on it for this feel leather. I don't think anyone would directly say that 00:49:44.840 --> 00:49:49.160 But unless you're in private company, but the rarity of it 00:49:49.720 --> 00:49:57.840 The unattainability of it is absolutely the point. Yeah, because we know that the point is not the quality 00:49:57.840 --> 00:50:02.320 Yeah, the point is that other people can see you with it 00:50:03.240 --> 00:50:06.640 and so with that in mind 00:50:06.840 --> 00:50:13.160 By definition in order to be rare it has to cost so much that 00:50:14.000 --> 00:50:20.000 If you can't attain it if time is money then that means money is time so it has to be worth 00:50:20.600 --> 00:50:23.640 so much time that 00:50:23.640 --> 00:50:31.480 The only way to have it is that your time is worth so much more than someone else's time if that makes sense 00:50:32.120 --> 00:50:40.160 And so with that in mind Kind of yeah, yeah, Tim in full planche after said blood diamonds are a coveted thing. Yeah 00:50:41.160 --> 00:50:47.000 Really, it's kind of the same deal. I didn't know that. Oh, they totally are. Yeah, but I thought I thought blood diamond 00:50:47.000 --> 00:50:50.640 is an expression People want real diamonds 00:50:50.640 --> 00:50:55.320 They don't care if the manufactured ones are like just as good or the same or whatever they want like real pulled out of the ground 00:50:55.320 --> 00:51:01.320 Diamonds, which basically results. Yeah, but you can you can buy Canadian diamonds, for example, like bonds ring is Canadian 00:51:01.320 --> 00:51:07.200 Yeah, a lot of people don't bother Oh, yeah, it's like totally a thing. Oh, okay 00:51:07.560 --> 00:51:15.240 Hmm anyways, maybe onto anyway Phil H says what I really value about your t-shirts is they don't shrink 00:51:15.760 --> 00:51:20.720 That is another interesting thing that Todd observed. I believe we were 00:51:21.280 --> 00:51:26.880 The highest or no, I think we were the second. Yeah, I think we were the second best for shrinkage 00:51:26.880 --> 00:51:33.400 And I got to send The most fun email that I've sent in a long time to our fashion team 00:51:34.000 --> 00:51:38.320 When I saw his test so Todd didn't talk to us about this at all 00:51:38.320 --> 00:51:43.480 He just ordered shirts, I guess and I found out about the video at the same time you guys did 00:51:44.080 --> 00:51:48.240 So generally how he does I watched it with my butt clenched, you know how it is 00:51:48.240 --> 00:51:51.840 Yeah, and I was very excited to see that we scored extremely well 00:51:52.320 --> 00:51:59.480 But what Todd as in his every man style, you know might not necessarily realize is the is the why 00:52:00.000 --> 00:52:07.520 Behind some of the things that he observes I was just gonna bring up the chart at the end, but you should probably go watch the video instead 00:52:07.520 --> 00:52:11.800 Yeah, no, you guys should go watch the video if you if you go watch the video at a certain point 00:52:11.800 --> 00:52:18.160 I don't know you can tell you went at a certain point. He puts a chart up on screen You can see the overall scores for everything, but you should go watch it yourself. Yeah, so 00:52:18.960 --> 00:52:26.600 So yeah, so he doesn't necessarily get into the into the why and what I can tell you is that anything cotton is gonna shrink 00:52:27.400 --> 00:52:33.440 So if a garment doesn't shrink and it has like any percentage of cotton in it what it means is that it's pretty shrunk 00:52:33.440 --> 00:52:41.720 It means that there's an additional step There's an additional cost that went into the production of that garment in order to safeguard it from 00:52:42.560 --> 00:52:46.080 warm warm washing and especially hot drying and 00:52:47.240 --> 00:52:50.800 What's funny is I am the driving force 00:52:51.040 --> 00:52:57.160 This is one of those things we have a great team and they do the hard work of you know sourcing and 00:52:57.800 --> 00:53:00.600 Qa and validation and and like 00:53:00.840 --> 00:53:08.400 You know like we man We have capabilities that we wouldn't have even dreamed of you know five years ago when we start up creator warehouse like Tatiana's amazing 00:53:08.440 --> 00:53:12.960 You'd be like yeah, so I need something that's anti microbial and I needed to do this 00:53:12.960 --> 00:53:17.120 I need to do that and she comes back a few weeks later with like different swatches and she's like yeah 00:53:17.120 --> 00:53:21.040 Well, this one's ten sole and this one's this and this one's that we looked into silver 00:53:21.040 --> 00:53:24.840 But it's like super super harmful, so we're not gonna explore that and it's like yeah 00:53:24.840 --> 00:53:27.720 We have like we do like material science now and stuff super cool 00:53:28.680 --> 00:53:33.600 Yeah, yeah, anyway, I don't know much about that stuff, so I'm not surprised. Yeah. Yeah. No, that's fine. That's fine 00:53:33.600 --> 00:53:37.000 But the point is one it I am 00:53:37.840 --> 00:53:46.560 The way that I see it I'm kind of like our our prototypical customer, right and like you guys wouldn't with your particular body dimensions 00:53:46.640 --> 00:53:50.960 Yeah, but I mean I mean in terms of like the things that matter to me, right? 00:53:50.960 --> 00:53:55.600 It's like you guys wouldn't follow this channel if you didn't have anything in common with me 00:53:55.720 --> 00:53:59.800 So when I kind of get something in my head and I go no, this is really important 00:53:59.800 --> 00:54:04.200 Yeah, I tend to kind of I tend to kind of until I've seen evidence to support otherwise 00:54:04.200 --> 00:54:09.040 I tend to be like this about it and the fashion team has been pushing me for a long time. They're like look 00:54:09.840 --> 00:54:15.920 The shrinking doesn't matter that much because as hold on hold on because as long as we have proper care instructions 00:54:16.160 --> 00:54:18.160 People should follow the care hold on 00:54:19.600 --> 00:54:27.240 People should follow the care instructions and then they won't have any issues as long as they as long as they wash cold and 00:54:27.600 --> 00:54:33.240 And lie flat to dry. They're not gonna have any concerns and you know what we will do garments 00:54:34.000 --> 00:54:39.400 Occasionally sure that really do need to be treated, but hold on hold it hold hold. Please hold please 00:54:39.880 --> 00:54:45.800 We will do garments occasionally if they if there's a particular reason there's a particular fit 00:54:45.920 --> 00:54:48.880 Or feel that we're trying for and there's just absolutely no other way to do it 00:54:49.320 --> 00:54:54.600 That require proper care, but in general I always tell the team 00:54:54.600 --> 00:54:58.800 I'm like look if it can't be hooked into the washer on warm and 00:54:59.240 --> 00:55:02.640 Hucked into the dryer. We can't ship it to our audience 00:55:02.640 --> 00:55:08.440 And so I got to send them one of my most fun emails in a long time when I was like hey 00:55:08.640 --> 00:55:15.320 Did you guys see we killed it on the shrinking which is also good by the way for the longevity of the print? 00:55:16.120 --> 00:55:18.120 We killed it on the shrinking 00:55:19.920 --> 00:55:23.640 Because we insist on pre-shrinking sometimes we multiple times 00:55:24.400 --> 00:55:28.160 pre-wash and pre-shrink are our base materials before we construct our garments 00:55:29.600 --> 00:55:37.000 So we killed it Because I keep insisting on this and I couldn't help noticing that Todd for his test 00:55:37.600 --> 00:55:41.960 Hucked all the t-shirts in the washer on warm and a hooked them all in the dryer 00:55:42.960 --> 00:55:51.620 Once again Linus is lazy and it saves the day and they I got an immediate email back like oh, I was cringing so hard 00:55:53.560 --> 00:55:57.520 My I've been informed that things that I have have 00:55:58.880 --> 00:56:04.880 Washing instructions on labels that I've never read before and I've just basically been like well, we'll see what happens 00:56:05.000 --> 00:56:12.000 Cuz like I'm not I just even if I treat it correctly the time someone tells me the next time it goes through 00:56:12.000 --> 00:56:16.480 It's just gonna be in the laundry hamper. I'm gonna toss the whole laundry hamper in the thing 00:56:17.120 --> 00:56:21.880 If if doing the laundry takes if doing like a load of laundry 00:56:22.400 --> 00:56:29.320 Just putting in the washer then putting the dryer takes more than just picking up as much clothes as I can and shoving it in all at once 00:56:29.640 --> 00:56:36.480 I'm not gonna do it. Yeah Fun2 says line is so proud to stingy rules. This is not stinginess 00:56:36.600 --> 00:56:43.820 We pay extra to make sure that our garments can handle being treated the way that I treat my 00:56:43.920 --> 00:56:47.040 Garments because he knows a lot of the audience is probably going to treat it that way 00:56:47.040 --> 00:56:54.720 And I bet you well over 50% of this audience would treat it that way. Yeah, so like like it was really important to wear test 00:56:55.240 --> 00:56:58.920 These cargo pants. So these are launching really soon. We actually 00:56:59.920 --> 00:57:03.480 We have the stock. Oh We just haven't launched yet 00:57:03.480 --> 00:57:10.000 These are launching really soon. I'm really excited But one of the things that we wanted to see because they will fade this material will fade 00:57:10.000 --> 00:57:15.000 But we wanted to make sure that they were gonna fade with like a nice patina. So Tynan's been wearing them constantly 00:57:15.360 --> 00:57:19.920 Andrew has been wearing them constantly. I've been wearing them constantly We've been beating the crap out of these cargo pants 00:57:19.920 --> 00:57:25.800 And there's a few things we found like the magnet for the flap detached in mine. So we made sure we reinforce that 00:57:25.800 --> 00:57:33.280 That's why you got a wear test. Yeah, that's why if you are if you are a company leader and you don't use your company's products 00:57:34.120 --> 00:57:40.200 You're flying blind. Yeah, you're absolutely flying blind because the people who are gonna notice these problems 00:57:40.200 --> 00:57:46.200 They don't have the voice to affect change. You got to notice them for yourself. So so we got that changed anyway 00:57:46.200 --> 00:57:49.360 So speaking of patina these are now covered in chlorine stains 00:57:50.360 --> 00:57:56.280 They've like faded out just from being washed many times. I've got blood stains on them right now 00:57:57.280 --> 00:58:02.400 I'll explain my ARM and the blood stains on my pants. I had a thing happen yesterday 00:58:03.200 --> 00:58:06.360 I'm still wearing these from yesterday. Whatever. Don't judge me. I'm on vacation this week 00:58:08.520 --> 00:58:14.040 Anyway, what are what are their pants right you change your underwear? You're all good. Yeah, exactly exactly, right? 00:58:14.040 --> 00:58:17.280 Yeah, yeah, I mean I've worn a fresh underwear every day. So whatever 00:58:18.280 --> 00:58:22.000 Anyway store.com underwear very excited about these these are coming soon 00:58:22.000 --> 00:58:26.900 I'll TT store.com. I forget the point that I was getting up, but we're not it's not about cheeping out. It's about 00:58:27.640 --> 00:58:36.680 designing for You know the gamer lifestyle, you know, I I think you know the typical gamer should be applauded for washing their clothes at all 00:58:37.160 --> 00:58:42.080 Let alone proper care instructions. I got to set my expectations at a reasonable level for y'all. Yeah 00:58:42.840 --> 00:58:45.480 See I've attended enough land parties now 00:58:46.480 --> 00:58:54.500 That I know I know my people, okay, I know especially as well if if it was like notably communicated on the website 00:58:54.960 --> 00:58:59.880 While I was buying a product that there was special care instructions. I just wouldn't buy it 00:59:01.000 --> 00:59:06.600 Like straight up because I would be like oh well, I'll ruin that so I might as well just go for someone else 00:59:07.280 --> 00:59:13.280 And there are other options, right? So it's like I don't know why deal with the one that I know I'm going to ruin 00:59:14.280 --> 00:59:19.360 Speaking of garments from LTT Store.com. I'm actually not sure if you guys have clued into this one yet 00:59:19.360 --> 00:59:22.840 Let's see if it's one of the oh, yeah, it's one of the top-selling products today. All right 00:59:22.840 --> 00:59:30.560 We're gonna show this while we explain merch messages Merch messages are the way to interact with the show they go to producer Dan who's gonna pop your merch message 00:59:31.440 --> 00:59:37.120 Down there. Yeah, exactly exactly down there or reply to it himself or forward it internally or 00:59:37.360 --> 00:59:40.480 Curate it for me and Luke to talk about and to send a merch message 00:59:40.480 --> 00:59:49.480 You don't want to send any twitch bits or any super chats like that You want to send merch messages so that in addition to throwing money at your screen and you know chatting with Dan or putting up a 00:59:49.960 --> 00:59:59.320 Post on the bottom of the on the bottom of the show You can also get high quality merchandise in the mail and I'm very excited to announce the hotfix 01:00:07.480 --> 01:00:12.520 You want to throw one on yes, I just I wanted to check on the scribe driver and just found that it is yet again 01:00:12.520 --> 01:00:18.080 Entirely sold out. Yeah, how fast do you think was gonna happen? I knew but I think it was three or four days this time 01:00:18.480 --> 01:00:22.880 Yeah, 10,000 pins wasn't it? Yeah, okay this is 01:00:22.880 --> 01:00:26.800 Yours is there. Oh, this is the hotfix patch 01:00:27.200 --> 01:00:33.080 Hoodie this one's fun when you order you will get one of three patches here 01:00:33.080 --> 01:00:42.760 I'm just gonna do Linus cam for a second here So there are three different patches that could be stitched onto our iconic tie-dye hoodie that we debuted last year during 01:00:43.480 --> 01:00:45.480 LTX 01:00:46.480 --> 01:00:52.120 There's about a 95% chance that you're going to get a when-show inspired patch 01:00:52.160 --> 01:00:55.960 Which is the one that Luke and I are wearing right now. Oh one moment, please 01:00:56.680 --> 01:00:58.680 Hold on 01:01:03.800 --> 01:01:05.800 Technical difficulties 01:01:08.120 --> 01:01:11.640 This might be a little hot for today, but we'll see how it goes. Ah, yes a 01:01:12.360 --> 01:01:16.360 95% chance that you will get a when inspired patch like this 01:01:17.120 --> 01:01:22.080 Or oh, there's a 5% chance that you will get the elusive 01:01:23.160 --> 01:01:27.080 breadsaurus patch. Oh Oh 01:01:27.080 --> 01:01:34.840 It says oh what and a point one percent chance that you will get the ultra rare purple 01:01:35.440 --> 01:01:40.720 Breadsaurus. Oh, we don't have one to show physically. So the store will be the best way to show it 01:01:41.120 --> 01:01:47.000 These hoodies are individually tie-died not printed. So you'll always get a unique pattern 01:01:47.080 --> 01:01:53.360 They're available now on lttstore.com and limited quantities at LMG dot GG slash hotfix 01:01:53.360 --> 01:01:57.400 You know, it's really these come already on or you have to affix them 01:01:57.400 --> 01:02:02.160 No, these come already on okay, and we know that you know what? 01:02:02.160 --> 01:02:07.200 They could be like they could seem a little bit more, you know attached more better 01:02:07.840 --> 01:02:14.800 We know But basically the reason they're called the hotfix and this is actually funny because I 01:02:15.600 --> 01:02:21.920 People are pointing out what you figured out how to get loot box mechanics onto the store. I mean, this isn't the first time 01:02:23.680 --> 01:02:28.560 What do you got? We do have mystery products. We literally okay. Yeah, we've got mystery products 01:02:28.560 --> 01:02:34.840 Yeah, nice, dude. Be what are they whether they admitted or not whether they know it or not people people love loot box stuff 01:02:34.840 --> 01:02:38.320 This sweater not technically the one with the patch, but it's the same sweater 01:02:39.000 --> 01:02:43.520 It is hold on hold on. No, I'm okay. Go ahead and I'll be right back. I'll be right back 01:02:43.520 --> 01:02:47.880 It's extremely comfy and it's the sweater that I keep at work for that reason. I 01:02:48.360 --> 01:02:53.400 Like it very much the dropout hoodie is also extremely comfy all of our sort is hard 01:02:53.400 --> 01:02:58.400 But those ones in particular, but I find this one. This one's like a little bit a little bit lighter. I think 01:02:59.960 --> 01:03:06.400 Yeah, I want to steal the bread source one you could probably get it from I think he has to probably be murdered 01:03:07.080 --> 01:03:09.080 Don't even know 01:03:10.080 --> 01:03:12.080 Oh 01:03:13.960 --> 01:03:19.440 The other Spurl could streams over Thanks, look, I'll put it on the list 01:03:22.160 --> 01:03:24.160 Oh good timing 01:03:25.720 --> 01:03:29.360 Yeah, so that's uh, what is that? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, so 01:03:30.320 --> 01:03:37.080 Oh, yeah, on my week off the team yells at me whenever I wear this because whenever I wear it on camera because you can't buy it 01:03:37.080 --> 01:03:46.280 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, so when I'm on my time off This is the hoodie I was wearing because they're so comfy that I specifically took off so that I could come in and do when show in 01:03:46.760 --> 01:03:49.540 Something. Oh, actually I'm wearing an LTX t-shirt anyway 01:03:50.800 --> 01:03:55.040 So that I could come and do when show we're sure that was never on sale. Whatever the 01:03:57.720 --> 01:03:59.720 The staff LTX 01:04:01.040 --> 01:04:05.840 This is too warm for me to wear right now especially when I was running over there right now, but the point is it's a great hoodie 01:04:06.480 --> 01:04:14.860 Here's how would it looks like? Extremely well worn. Yeah, you also have to remember that all all the dyes are individual 01:04:15.160 --> 01:04:17.840 So some of this white I suspect was already probably there 01:04:18.640 --> 01:04:24.640 Yeah, it is. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, you see a little bit on this one Yeah, no, no, that's that's just part of the that's just part of the the tie-dye 01:04:24.640 --> 01:04:28.400 Linus has more on the back of his shoulder and stuff like that on his yeah, okay. Yeah. Oh, yeah 01:04:28.400 --> 01:04:31.600 Yeah, it's such a cool hoodie you guys anyway 01:04:31.600 --> 01:04:37.040 The reason the patches are gigantic and like kind of weird is because they're covering 01:04:37.840 --> 01:04:41.640 We had a batch of these where the LTX was printed at an angle 01:04:42.480 --> 01:04:48.880 Our printers really do you remember this now? Yes, I do our printers really good, but he 01:04:50.600 --> 01:04:58.400 You know what I'm gonna call it a team fail Because he didn't notice we didn't notice and we ended up with an entire 01:04:58.840 --> 01:05:04.920 batch of hoodies for LTX that had the LTX at an angle that was unacceptable I 01:05:06.160 --> 01:05:10.000 Made the call it was a painful call, but we basically redid it 01:05:10.160 --> 01:05:15.600 So people in full plan chat are already planning on on removing the patches so they can have LTX sweaters 01:05:15.600 --> 01:05:17.920 I wouldn't do that. I believe they use 01:05:19.880 --> 01:05:26.560 Like a wax or whatever you're not gonna want to do that you're gonna end up you're gonna end up with an even bigger patch on it 01:05:26.560 --> 01:05:29.440 To cover up the mess that you make when you remove this patch 01:05:30.040 --> 01:05:37.280 Do not do that. Okay. Good, but that's why the patches are like so awkwardly kind of big because this is cover it 01:05:37.360 --> 01:05:43.080 It's the hot fix. Yeah, that makes sense. It's a it's a we're just pet. We're patching in a fix. Yeah 01:05:43.480 --> 01:05:48.240 So anyway, yeah guys check out the hot fix patch hoodie. It's a really nice hoodie for 60 bucks 01:05:49.000 --> 01:05:54.360 Whoa, yeah, all that red there. I think it's really cool that they unique. Yep. Oh, yeah 01:05:54.360 --> 01:05:58.480 No, it's real tie-dye which costs more, you know, because that's how we roll, baby 01:05:59.440 --> 01:06:05.240 Some of them have a really cool pattern. Some of them have really not quite as cool patterns, but still really cool patterns 01:06:05.240 --> 01:06:11.720 So there's the there's the elusive the legendary rare breadsaurus patch. Yeah. Yep 01:06:12.800 --> 01:06:17.280 All right, I'm so sorry. I'm gonna have to take this off though because I am I probably won't be able to keep it on for the 01:06:17.280 --> 01:06:21.200 Absolutely dying. I'll do what I can. I didn't go for a run. So oh 01:06:21.320 --> 01:06:26.440 Oh Okay, I will maybe I will maybe put it back on but dude. I am I am sweating 01:06:27.680 --> 01:06:31.160 Merch messages then so if you place an order on the store in the cart 01:06:31.600 --> 01:06:38.000 You'll get a little box that pops up You can leave a merge message and it'll it'll go to us and Dan can show you guys kind of how it works 01:06:38.000 --> 01:06:43.080 It'll he'll curate a few merge messages for us here. What do we got Dan? Yeah, sure. I actually have one that's on topic 01:06:43.680 --> 01:06:48.560 Let's see. Hi. Are you are you implying that normally? I am not on topic 01:06:48.560 --> 01:06:53.760 No, normally normally the merge messages are not on topic what you were just talking about 01:06:53.760 --> 01:06:59.280 So I'm blaming our audience is their fault. Hi. Congrats on the good project farm rating 01:06:59.280 --> 01:07:06.360 I've been interested in shirts printed with discharge ink. Are there any major concerns or major cons to the process? 01:07:06.360 --> 01:07:08.760 It seems like nothing from LTT Store uses it 01:07:10.080 --> 01:07:12.160 What I'm gonna be honest with you 01:07:13.280 --> 01:07:17.080 What's that? We use what our printer 01:07:17.960 --> 01:07:26.320 Uses he has a lot of experience I think you guys saw on the project farm video that our our print quality is extremely high 01:07:26.640 --> 01:07:34.160 So whatever we use is what he uses and I tend to be the kind of person where if my experts tell me something 01:07:36.040 --> 01:07:38.880 Then you know I ask some questions about it 01:07:39.400 --> 01:07:43.440 but I I tend to I tend to not believe that I 01:07:43.960 --> 01:07:50.960 Know best when it comes to like I've realized this is a little bit contradictory because I just said that I argue with my fashion team 01:07:51.240 --> 01:07:56.280 About like care instructions and whatever else, but that's me knowing the customer. That's different. Yeah, yeah 01:07:56.280 --> 01:08:01.760 When it comes to them telling me, okay, well with all of your design guidelines in mind. Here's what you use. I 01:08:04.320 --> 01:08:09.680 Gotta defer right I gotta I gotta trust my experts and if my experts grew up enough times well then you know 01:08:09.680 --> 01:08:15.720 We have to we have to have a tough conversation, right? But at the end of the day, I am not a screen printing expert 01:08:15.720 --> 01:08:23.600 All I know is that our quality is outstanding which I have observed for myself and we just and which I have heard from our 01:08:23.600 --> 01:08:32.120 Customers one project farm and which we just one project farms round up for so I know this and so if Marco says 01:08:32.400 --> 01:08:35.680 Hey, here's what I'm gonna use. I say yes, sir 01:08:35.760 --> 01:08:41.160 You want you want to know something I thought was pretty interesting about the the project farms thing is it was like 01:08:42.040 --> 01:08:44.040 Kind of what I would expect 01:08:45.280 --> 01:08:48.680 Like most of when he when he like showed all the shirts he was gonna test 01:08:48.680 --> 01:08:52.480 I was like, yeah, I like kind of expect that one's gonna end there. It wasn't exactly 01:08:52.480 --> 01:08:59.960 I was off on a few of them But like and I didn't do exact proper wrote it down guesses, but like things performed about what you would expect 01:09:01.320 --> 01:09:05.120 It's On the one hand, there's a lot of details 01:09:05.720 --> 01:09:11.160 But on the other hand, it's not that hard to like pick up a garment and go. Oh, yeah, this is like 01:09:11.640 --> 01:09:14.640 Not a quality garment or or it is 01:09:14.640 --> 01:09:21.080 I just think a lot of people are not really used to it and don't have an eye for it and like that dude 01:09:21.080 --> 01:09:28.320 I see so many comments from people being like, oh, yeah I never really cared about shirts and then like I bought from one from LTT and then I immediately bought the four pack online day 01:09:28.360 --> 01:09:33.160 And now that's just like what I wear now. Yeah, because it's I don't know. It's nice and it's such a 01:09:33.920 --> 01:09:44.440 Compared to socks, for example shirts are so easy to treat yourself once and then have really nice shirts like like t-shirts basically forever 01:09:44.960 --> 01:09:49.360 like I I wear the wrap out of my rotation of shirts and 01:09:49.800 --> 01:09:53.960 They last a really long time like I wear through even really high quality socks 01:09:53.960 --> 01:09:56.840 I'll wear through them pretty quickly just because of badminton, but 01:09:57.520 --> 01:10:03.640 Man shirts, they can last a really long time when they don't suck. So to me, it's a pretty it's a pretty reasonable 01:10:04.600 --> 01:10:08.240 Investment I'm surprised we don't have white blanks. I 01:10:09.560 --> 01:10:14.120 Can explain that please do We target a very light 01:10:14.720 --> 01:10:19.200 Wearing shirt and you actually probably saw that in the project farm roundup. There were some that were heavier 01:10:19.760 --> 01:10:26.440 Heavier does not necessarily mean more quality. It does it could indicate could but it doesn't necessarily 01:10:26.840 --> 01:10:31.120 And it comes with trade-offs so we live in a in a temperate 01:10:31.640 --> 01:10:39.160 Climate and we also sort of philosophically will layer up as opposed to like wear a heavier 01:10:39.760 --> 01:10:45.360 T-shirt, I guess and so our shirts are designed to be highly breathable 01:10:46.000 --> 01:10:48.920 Really lightweight a little bit stretchy to be a bit more 01:10:49.800 --> 01:10:57.280 Accommodating of different body types and those are things that are not necessarily the easiest thing to achieve with a heavier fabric 01:10:57.440 --> 01:11:00.000 we also really like the way our shirt hangs and 01:11:00.600 --> 01:11:05.560 That's something that you tend to lose with a heavier fabric as well because the weight is weight 01:11:05.560 --> 01:11:10.280 It's literal weight and so it will pull and it will tend to fit a little bit tighter at the top 01:11:10.280 --> 01:11:19.000 And it'll tend to bunch up more at the bottom Another reason that oh what what does that have to do with it being white? I'm getting to that 01:11:19.000 --> 01:11:22.720 Okay, so our light shirts in white 01:11:23.640 --> 01:11:25.640 Would be very friendly. Ah 01:11:26.640 --> 01:11:30.000 We did experiment with a heavier shirt 01:11:32.200 --> 01:11:35.560 That makes sense yeah a heavier a heavier all-cotton 01:11:36.320 --> 01:11:42.840 white shirt Like all the colored blanks and then separately the white blanks 01:11:43.280 --> 01:11:49.160 Yeah, I forget why we ultimately killed it, but we decided that we're not gonna have a white shirt 01:11:49.160 --> 01:11:58.240 Oh, okay, so you're not even gonna do like a different version of it The reason we didn't start with a white shirt because you would think a plain white shirt is literally the vanilliest of places to start is 01:11:58.560 --> 01:12:05.160 because Whenever I get a white shirt it takes me about a month to have a pasta stain on it and I figured 01:12:06.160 --> 01:12:12.640 We are kin right Do you guys really want a white shirt? It's the same reason we don't make white mouse pads 01:12:13.240 --> 01:12:19.560 Yeah, Sarah talked me into doing one special edition light colored mouse pad once the GPU wasteland one and 01:12:20.880 --> 01:12:24.920 Within I think a couple of months of her daily aing it. She was like I get it 01:12:25.400 --> 01:12:32.840 We're never doing a white mouse pad again I was like you better believe it because it was like it had like coffee stains everywhere and stuff and Sarah's not even 01:12:33.000 --> 01:12:35.520 She's not a slobby person like I've literally 01:12:36.280 --> 01:12:41.560 Spent time in her workspace literally spent time in in her home like we've socially hung out 01:12:42.600 --> 01:12:50.360 She's not a slob or anything. It just happens man. Yeah, especially you got like you got pets and all that exactly right stuff happens 01:12:50.360 --> 01:12:56.280 And so pet things sometimes. Yeah, man. We we don't oh, yeah, so here's here's the cotton shirt 01:12:56.880 --> 01:13:00.640 I don't believe we're restocking it But apparently we do we do have it 01:13:00.640 --> 01:13:06.160 But that's why it's on a separate page because it had to be a hundred percent cotton for some reason and then it had to be 01:13:06.160 --> 01:13:09.920 It had to be thicker. Yeah, there you go. So that is literally just what we do 01:13:10.880 --> 01:13:19.080 220 GSM compared to 165 and so from watching that video that means this one will shrink, right? 01:13:19.840 --> 01:13:24.760 This one pre it will but it's pre shrunk. Yeah, okay. It'll shrink more than our regular one, right? 01:13:24.760 --> 01:13:29.960 But probably not that much. Mm-hmm. Sorry. This entire show has just turned into like garment discussion 01:13:29.960 --> 01:13:34.440 That really wasn't my intention. I never really cared and then I watched the project farm video and now I'm like hmm 01:13:34.520 --> 01:13:39.480 All these like little pieces of I I have learned a lot in the last five years 01:13:39.880 --> 01:13:47.080 Um, this is getting to be too hot. Yeah. Yeah. No. I mean, it's it's one of those things like when Gerald undone came for the studio tour 01:13:47.480 --> 01:13:52.040 and like the team had like Prepped him. I guess they were just like making fun of me 01:13:52.040 --> 01:13:56.360 But they had prepped him that like I only know computers. I'm not going to know anything about cameras 01:13:56.680 --> 01:14:00.280 So his part of his shtick for the tour was that he was going to like 01:14:01.080 --> 01:14:06.280 Gotcha me on like not knowing, you know lenses and cameras and and capture 01:14:07.080 --> 01:14:11.640 Utilities and you know media and stuff like that and halfway through the tour 01:14:11.640 --> 01:14:17.800 He was like, this isn't even fun because you like know everything and it's just like, yeah, the thing is you can't 01:14:18.600 --> 01:14:21.240 I don't believe that as a as a leader 01:14:21.720 --> 01:14:27.560 You can make intelligent decisions If you don't ask questions and if you don't listen to the answers 01:14:28.040 --> 01:14:34.760 Like how am I supposed to have an intelligent argument with my team about something like video frame rate? 01:14:35.240 --> 01:14:43.080 If I don't understand their perspective Because the best way to win an argument is to open with here's your perspective 01:14:43.720 --> 01:14:52.920 That I can demonstrate that I understand Now let me share an alternative viewpoint because if people don't feel like they've been heard 01:14:54.680 --> 01:15:00.440 The first thing they're gonna think about as soon as you present an alternate viewpoint is yeah, but mine. Yeah, but mine 01:15:00.440 --> 01:15:06.680 Yeah, but mine and they can't listen Someone can't listen while they are trying to formulate what they want to say 01:15:07.960 --> 01:15:15.320 And I'm not gonna say nobody can do that, you know, I'm sure that very brilliant people can do that or even you know 01:15:15.800 --> 01:15:18.920 Significantly above average people can do that, but most people 01:15:19.640 --> 01:15:24.120 It's really difficult and that difficulty is elevated 01:15:24.440 --> 01:15:29.240 Especially if the conversation has some emotional component to it like say for example 01:15:30.040 --> 01:15:36.520 Someone were to have like a very very strong emotional feeling about Android 01:15:39.400 --> 01:15:51.080 Say for example that were the case If someone were to come out and say something that challenged some of their preconceived notions about the Android ecosystem 01:15:52.280 --> 01:15:56.440 I don't think they would be capable of hearing what that person is saying 01:15:57.240 --> 01:15:59.640 before responding to it and 01:16:00.840 --> 01:16:10.280 I mean, that's not a particularly Hypothetical example here. Um, did you get a chance to watch that video by the way? I did not the stock Android sucks video 01:16:10.280 --> 01:16:13.560 That caused such an uproar in the community this week 01:16:14.040 --> 01:16:19.400 Um, I had some I had some really funny exchanges with chewy our community manager because 01:16:19.960 --> 01:16:25.240 He is he has done some community management in the past. Um, I think for like subreddits and stuff like that 01:16:25.320 --> 01:16:34.360 but in terms of the size Of our community and like youtube comments and just how um, how unfiltered everything is he's 01:16:35.160 --> 01:16:39.960 Almost on like a bi-weekly basis encountering some fresh hell 01:16:40.520 --> 01:16:44.680 Um, and the comments on that video. I'm so happy. That's not what I do 01:16:45.160 --> 01:16:50.920 Particularly stood out to him. He would be said he'd just be like pinging me because I was on vacation this week 01:16:50.920 --> 01:16:55.400 Anyway, so he'd be like pinging me. He's going like um 01:16:55.400 --> 01:16:58.040 What percentage of the video do you think this guy watched? 01:16:59.400 --> 01:17:03.400 Yeah, and I understand I understand why some people were 01:17:03.960 --> 01:17:07.800 Were upset about it. It's because they already know 01:17:09.320 --> 01:17:13.800 They already know that you know pixel os and 01:17:14.440 --> 01:17:21.560 one ui and Lineage os and all of these different versions of Android are different versions of Android 01:17:21.800 --> 01:17:25.720 And that stock Android in the way that we might have traditionally thought of it 01:17:26.200 --> 01:17:33.000 Doesn't exist anymore. And so for them, it's very obvious that pixel os is stock 01:17:33.400 --> 01:17:42.760 My name was talking about that So they know I get it like some of the most upset comments I got were from people that started with I I've been an Android developer for five years and 01:17:45.000 --> 01:17:49.640 Right But all you had to do was go down into the comments 01:17:50.520 --> 01:17:53.480 A little bit past the people who were super mad about it 01:17:54.120 --> 01:18:01.480 Or even In the conversations under the people who were super mad about it and see the people saying I didn't know this 01:18:04.120 --> 01:18:08.200 Which were there I looked through the comments I I didn't watch the video, but I did read the comments 01:18:08.200 --> 01:18:11.400 So believe it or not not every video is for every person 01:18:11.960 --> 01:18:20.600 And if you already knew that a osp has degraded to the point where it's basically unusable and it and by design 01:18:21.320 --> 01:18:30.120 And by design it's not meant to be used But there were times when it was far more usable and when stock Android really did mean 01:18:30.760 --> 01:18:35.320 As close to a osp as possible Whereas now 01:18:35.320 --> 01:18:39.400 The entire point of the video was that when we say stock Android 01:18:39.880 --> 01:18:47.960 That doesn't have a clearly defined meaning anymore because stock Android a osp a gsi a generic system image 01:18:48.360 --> 01:18:53.240 In the way that it exists now Is not really something that is designed to be run 01:18:53.800 --> 01:18:57.560 many of those stock applications are degraded to the point where 01:18:58.520 --> 01:19:06.600 They are not really usable In a in in the way that we would think of you know a modern phone as being usable 01:19:06.840 --> 01:19:12.280 And that's because the expectation is that well samsung is just going to replace it 01:19:12.680 --> 01:19:18.120 And xiaomi is going to replace it and even we here at google are just going to replace it anyway 01:19:18.360 --> 01:19:20.360 So who cares? 01:19:22.360 --> 01:19:31.000 But that was the conversation Because i've been told a lot of times that i don't even know what stock Android is because i'll complain about something to do with a phone 01:19:31.320 --> 01:19:34.520 And people will be like well line is that stock Android? 01:19:35.080 --> 01:19:38.680 And i'll kind of and so what i wanted to answer for myself was okay 01:19:38.840 --> 01:19:44.440 Well, what exactly is stock Android and it turns out it doesn't really exist almost nothing 01:19:44.680 --> 01:19:52.360 And what's really funny is as far as i can tell it's a really similar crowd that was yelling at me about it both ways 01:19:53.320 --> 01:19:55.800 Because when i am complaining about 01:19:56.520 --> 01:19:59.560 you know google's skin or 01:20:00.440 --> 01:20:03.880 sony's skin They'll shriek at me 01:20:03.880 --> 01:20:13.560 Well, that's a stock Android behavior And then when i pull out stock Android and i go okay. Well, how do things work here? They'll go well. No one's meant to use it like that 01:20:14.280 --> 01:20:16.280 Well 01:20:17.880 --> 01:20:22.600 Okay, so either no one's meant to use this and i'm allowed to attack anybody 01:20:22.920 --> 01:20:29.960 Be they fair phone or sony or samsung or google for the way they they integrate their skin integrate stock Android into their custom skin 01:20:31.160 --> 01:20:34.040 Or you can have it the other way you can't you can't have both 01:20:34.920 --> 01:20:42.200 you Either i'm allowed to criticize these custom skins in any way that i want because they don't have a function that i feel is 01:20:42.760 --> 01:20:46.760 important and necessary Or or 01:20:46.760 --> 01:20:49.880 You have to accept that that's the stock Android is stock Android 01:20:51.160 --> 01:20:57.640 That's it. Do you think it would be i genuinely don't know what the law around this kind of stuff is do you think it would be possible for google to 01:20:59.240 --> 01:21:02.760 Restrict Android and become the only manufacturer 01:21:03.320 --> 01:21:08.200 I don't think so because it's like it's a osp right like it's someone could just fork it then 01:21:08.840 --> 01:21:14.520 Like it's open source at its very at its very core. What if they abandoned a osp? 01:21:15.240 --> 01:21:21.160 Um, I don't foresee it. I don't foresee it either. I'm just wondering like it's an interesting play 01:21:21.320 --> 01:21:25.080 I think it's possible Like pixels 01:21:25.080 --> 01:21:28.040 I really wonder what pixel market share is. I don't think it's very high 01:21:29.160 --> 01:21:33.320 No And that's the that's the other funny one is the pixel owners 01:21:33.400 --> 01:21:38.840 You can pick them out a mile away because to them pixel os is obviously stock Android even though it is 01:21:39.560 --> 01:21:46.200 Full of google specific features Absolutely, um and tweaks that don't necessarily exist on other Android devices 01:21:46.760 --> 01:21:56.040 um and That you couldn't even say is like like Android like the normal Android as you might consider it to be because pixel os has 01:21:56.440 --> 01:21:59.720 Tiny market share compared to something like one ui. It's not even close 01:22:00.120 --> 01:22:06.120 All right, so let's see the bitman in full pen chat said google is functionally doing that with google play services and the 01:22:06.360 --> 01:22:12.120 In notification of gsi slash a osp. I don't necessarily agree because if i'm a samsung 01:22:12.520 --> 01:22:17.240 I don't actually want google to do all that much with a osp. I just want 01:22:17.960 --> 01:22:21.000 The baseline stuff to be really good 01:22:21.160 --> 01:22:25.880 And then I want them to get out of the way so that I can make my own things for differentiation reasons 01:22:26.360 --> 01:22:33.160 um, I don't want a fully Feature fat a osp because then there's less differentiation between vendors 01:22:33.560 --> 01:22:40.680 um the what-of-what um in Floatplane chat says nexus is more a osp than pixel 01:22:41.560 --> 01:22:46.680 And that is doesn't exist. That is a perfect example of the kinds of comments that we got 01:22:47.240 --> 01:22:51.240 Endlessly on that video that were literally things we said in the video 01:22:52.280 --> 01:22:56.840 We talked about how going back to google's old phones. They were closer 01:22:56.920 --> 01:23:00.920 But even then they weren't stock Android and this and it's it's 01:23:01.480 --> 01:23:07.320 deviated farther and further as time's gone on the number of people that were enraged 01:23:08.520 --> 01:23:13.960 Clarifying something in the comments that was literally in the video was 01:23:14.920 --> 01:23:21.640 Mind-blowing on this one like even for me so I talked about how chewy has a little less experience with this stuff than I do 01:23:22.360 --> 01:23:25.560 Even I looked at this one and I went are you even for real right now? 01:23:25.720 --> 01:23:31.400 The people that still deeply care about phones these days with the amount of years of 01:23:31.960 --> 01:23:34.760 Incredibly uninteresting launches that we've had is going to be some 01:23:35.880 --> 01:23:41.720 Some passionate people and I think part of it is that you know some folks and you know again 01:23:42.360 --> 01:23:45.400 I I I know my community. There's a reason that 01:23:46.200 --> 01:23:51.560 There's a reason we vibe, you know I think some of it is just not picking up on social cues 01:23:52.120 --> 01:23:55.320 Like that one person wrote a long impassioned 01:23:55.880 --> 01:23:58.840 Um thing about how I completely misunderstood 01:23:59.480 --> 01:24:03.320 My point that I was trying to make or whatever it is they were trying to say and at the end they go 01:24:03.960 --> 01:24:08.040 And I can't believe that over this Linus is going to iphone 01:24:09.240 --> 01:24:13.320 I'm just gonna Bro, it's it's showmanship. I'm just 01:24:14.200 --> 01:24:23.640 Like he's so incompetent. He can't She can't even use a pixel normally. He puts a gsi on it like an idiot and then he goes to iphone because it's bad 01:24:23.960 --> 01:24:27.400 What an idiot it's like 01:24:27.400 --> 01:24:35.720 My job is to be a tech reviewer If I don't use an iphone once in a while. I'm not doing a very good job and like the iphone is fine 01:24:36.440 --> 01:24:41.480 It's fine and the pixel is fine. Everything's fine. Probably had a really hard day 01:24:42.200 --> 01:24:44.200 Yeah, all right 01:24:46.760 --> 01:24:51.560 Shrath 2k said every comment should have a timestamp attached for when they made their comment 01:24:51.640 --> 01:24:54.120 I've actually suggested that to youtube multiple times 01:24:54.680 --> 01:25:00.440 One of the things I've also suggested to youtube is stamp and like percentage of video watch both separately 01:25:00.600 --> 01:25:07.160 Allowing creators to gait Comments based on a required percentage of video watched 01:25:08.120 --> 01:25:13.880 Because I think I would probably gait ours at around 75 percent if you haven't watched most of the video 01:25:14.360 --> 01:25:20.360 I really don't see how you deserve to be posting a comment on it. I feel like there should maybe be a cap on that though 01:25:21.560 --> 01:25:25.800 Like you should I don't think you should be able to set it at actually 100 percent of the video 01:25:26.200 --> 01:25:30.360 No, because especially if google is going to implement their own 01:25:31.240 --> 01:25:35.960 Like intro block and sponsor segment blocks, which we're going to be talking about a little bit later 01:25:36.600 --> 01:25:40.920 premium Is now getting like skip most often skip segments 01:25:41.480 --> 01:25:47.000 As a as a button. Whoa. Yeah, so I believe they're trialing that I don't think it's fully rolled out, but um 01:25:47.800 --> 01:25:51.080 You're not going to be able to require people to watch 100 of the video 01:25:51.480 --> 01:25:56.200 But from my perspective if you've watched 10 of this video if you've watched the intro 01:25:57.000 --> 01:26:05.160 and you're angry Then I don't need to see I don't need to see your irrational anger and it is irrational at that point 01:26:05.160 --> 01:26:09.160 You haven't you haven't taken the time to even hear the argument like if you want to watch youtube shorts 01:26:09.160 --> 01:26:13.160 You want to watch one minute content by all means go watch that go do that somewhere else. Yeah 01:26:13.400 --> 01:26:19.000 This is long form content. Yeah, we have a beginning a middle and an end and until you've actually consumed 01:26:19.480 --> 01:26:26.280 A fair enough portion of it. You're not really in a position to to comment on it. Um, so I definitely have 01:26:26.920 --> 01:26:34.200 a lot of thoughts About how the comment section could become a little bit less chaotic and a little bit less toxic 01:26:34.200 --> 01:26:38.600 I'd also like to see better tools for us to to moderate those 01:26:39.160 --> 01:26:44.680 For example, one of the things that I'm going to be asking for in addition to being able to shadow ban a user 01:26:45.160 --> 01:26:48.680 Is I want to be able to shadow ban anyone who thumbsed up that user 01:26:50.040 --> 01:26:56.200 One fell swoop. Well, and if we see something that is particularly toxic like say for example 01:26:56.840 --> 01:27:01.960 You know some kind of hate speech Yeah, that you're just done. Yeah 01:27:02.440 --> 01:27:06.840 Why am I if if I just because 500 people upvoted something doesn't make it valid 01:27:07.000 --> 01:27:11.080 If somebody's dropping inwards and people are thumbsing it up. I'd be very happy to shout about all them 01:27:11.240 --> 01:27:17.960 Yep, that's the like scenario that I came up with. Yeah, or I mean something as stupid as uh, why does adam have painted nails? 01:27:18.200 --> 01:27:21.480 all he's gay Who cares? 01:27:21.480 --> 01:27:27.720 You're done You and your entire punk-ass crew are all done from my point of view, right? Is there any way to even see 01:27:28.360 --> 01:27:34.280 on As a creator on youtube. Is there any way to see who the people that like something? 01:27:35.080 --> 01:27:38.840 No, and I don't need to I don't care who they are. They're irrelevant 01:27:40.520 --> 01:27:43.400 You just want to be able to shadow ban them. Yep. I just want to be able to 01:27:44.040 --> 01:27:49.000 Much more easily get rid of them. Uh, josh 420 says I feel a lot of creators would abuse such a tool 01:27:49.560 --> 01:27:53.880 Who cares and you know what? That's rough. Um 01:27:53.880 --> 01:28:00.680 Go watch someone else's content. There is like actually practically infinite other things that you could do if that creator is banning 01:28:00.920 --> 01:28:07.480 You just get out of there And and in uh, yeah, I mean voting with your feet is not a bad thing 01:28:08.280 --> 01:28:16.200 But I do see their point like if someone was feet. Yeah by just walking away. Okay. Yeah, if someone was if someone was 01:28:18.280 --> 01:28:23.240 Say for example going through like uh, I mean I I hate to bring up, you know 01:28:24.200 --> 01:28:29.560 Like underage controversies, you know, so a bunch of youtubers. Yeah, right? 01:28:29.640 --> 01:28:33.400 So if they're just shadow banning anyone who they can do that anyways 01:28:33.960 --> 01:28:37.720 Like they already have that functionality. I guess that's true. We're just making it less work 01:28:38.120 --> 01:28:40.840 Yeah, well, no, I'm saying in regards to the person who's saying 01:28:41.240 --> 01:28:45.880 Uh, they might abuse that it's like, yeah, they can already delete whatever the heck they want 01:28:46.120 --> 01:28:50.360 They can already set up scripts that will delete things that reference certain words 01:28:50.680 --> 01:28:54.920 Like it's uh, they already have all of these tools. I guess that's true. Like there's no 01:28:55.960 --> 01:28:59.160 That that's why I said who cares is because it's already fully abusable 01:28:59.800 --> 01:29:04.280 Our top gear asks banned from viewing or just having their comment scene just having their comment scene. Yeah 01:29:05.000 --> 01:29:08.920 Yeah, that's it and dark 24 says shadow banning to me is ridiculous 01:29:10.360 --> 01:29:16.520 If you moderate a extremely open tens of thousands of potentially millions of users platform 01:29:16.840 --> 01:29:23.560 I think extremely quickly you will not Your opinion will shift. Yeah, I can understand how if you haven't done that 01:29:23.800 --> 01:29:28.840 I fully understand and used to believe the same. I was very against it when we talked about the setup for the forum 01:29:28.840 --> 01:29:32.520 For example, the the main rule for the forum originally was that you could attack 01:29:33.320 --> 01:29:36.840 Linus and myself But nobody else there was no shadow banning 01:29:36.920 --> 01:29:39.720 There was only full banning and it was like kind of hard to get banned 01:29:40.040 --> 01:29:45.320 And then the user base grew and grew and grew and grew and grew and grew and more bad actors started noticing 01:29:45.640 --> 01:29:51.400 Oh, wow, the rules here are pretty light. Let me just go around and like wreck everyone's day for no reason 01:29:51.880 --> 01:29:59.480 And it's like oh, wow, okay The ultimate answer is that a lot they're not a lot actually a subset of people really suck 01:30:00.440 --> 01:30:02.840 And they will find ways to just 01:30:03.560 --> 01:30:08.760 Be annoying in as many ways as they possibly can and it actually doesn't take a ton 01:30:09.320 --> 01:30:12.440 To ban those people out and then the quality of the 01:30:13.240 --> 01:30:17.400 Conversation the quality of the people all that kind of stuff skyrockets because the amount of 01:30:17.880 --> 01:30:21.240 Impact that this small group of people has is actually enormous 01:30:21.480 --> 01:30:28.280 I'm already seeing a different difference in our comment. I'm not surprised at all like the the I wonder if one of the reasons that that 01:30:29.400 --> 01:30:36.520 A osp video stood out to me was because our comment section has actually been really good quite a bit better lately. Yeah 01:30:37.160 --> 01:30:45.640 um Interesting. Yeah, I didn't really think about that this one like did kind of blow up outside of our of our usual sphere 01:30:46.120 --> 01:30:52.600 And that's always sort of uh, where you see those sort of spikes and ignorant takes where people are coming in out of nowhere 01:30:52.840 --> 01:30:56.680 Yeah, um, you know off of some random subreddit. They're not even watching the video 01:30:56.760 --> 01:31:00.040 They're just seeing someone else's summary that was inaccurate and then there's a 01:31:00.200 --> 01:31:06.120 Oh, that's the worst thing. Yeah Ian X mess in Philippine chat said I would rather full ban over shadow banning. That's just me though 01:31:06.200 --> 01:31:14.120 So the one of the big reasons why you want to shadow ban is because the not if you know, this user is like definitely just 01:31:14.600 --> 01:31:20.200 bad actor By banning you're communicating to them that they're banned. Yeah takes 01:31:21.240 --> 01:31:26.360 Roughly 30 seconds to make another account. It's a free platform. They'll just go boop and then they're back 01:31:26.600 --> 01:31:32.520 Yeah, so you you don't want to communicate that they're banned because then they work around it and it's like 01:31:33.000 --> 01:31:37.720 Extremely obvious and extremely easy to work around it 01:31:38.040 --> 01:31:43.000 And notably satisfying to those users to work around it because they know 01:31:43.240 --> 01:31:46.520 That they just took your time to go through and ban these comments 01:31:46.520 --> 01:31:52.440 They know that they just wasted your time They know that you think that it worked and then you're going to go in and do even worse things now 01:31:52.760 --> 01:31:55.880 Knowing that this is the tool that they're going to use and it's extremely ineffective 01:31:57.240 --> 01:32:01.320 Yep Shadow banning is actually amazing like here's an example of 01:32:01.880 --> 01:32:06.440 Someone who's going to be shadow banned forever and doesn't deserve to know that they were banned 01:32:06.920 --> 01:32:11.080 Um, this guy says what's up with the star of david free palestine 01:32:12.840 --> 01:32:14.840 There's a comment replying to them 01:32:18.120 --> 01:32:22.680 Go ahead and read it. I believe that is a board for chinese checkers 01:32:23.240 --> 01:32:27.640 They were referring to the chinese checkers board that I have on my wall in my basement 01:32:31.480 --> 01:32:35.800 That's amazing. I didn't understand at all. What that was supposed to tell us 01:32:36.920 --> 01:32:41.800 The line is for show me the comment. I was just like is this like AI generated or like what's happening 01:32:42.360 --> 01:32:49.400 Okay, let me that is an example of just I'm sorry, but you're too stupid to have an opinion on our videos anymore 01:32:49.400 --> 01:32:53.880 Like you're done bud. So this is a this is a chinese checker board. Um, it was funny 01:32:53.960 --> 01:32:58.360 I saw I saw a couple of really good conversations on reddit actually about this video 01:32:58.920 --> 01:33:04.680 Where someone was like, look, I'm one of the ones that's always getting after Linus about, you know, talking about 01:33:05.240 --> 01:33:09.720 Comments and like haters and stuff, but this video has opened my eyes 01:33:10.280 --> 01:33:17.720 Yeah to the kind of you don't get it until you get 50,000 comments every day completely irrational and unnecessary 01:33:18.360 --> 01:33:21.400 Bullsh**. I will say I will say 01:33:22.120 --> 01:33:28.360 Sometimes Yeah, sometimes. Yeah, you dive real deep. I know and real dark 01:33:28.680 --> 01:33:31.560 You bring extra air tanks and you find those 01:33:32.200 --> 01:33:35.560 Buried treasures comments and you let them get to you 01:33:36.520 --> 01:33:41.000 I don't think this was that case. Sure, but it does happen sometimes. That's fair 01:33:41.640 --> 01:33:44.680 Um, and my exposure to it is extremely high. Yes 01:33:45.640 --> 01:33:48.760 But I guess you know when I'm talking about those outliers 01:33:48.840 --> 01:33:54.120 It's because I have also experienced these sort of rushes of stupidity 01:33:54.280 --> 01:33:57.880 Yeah, um, and I know that every one of those that I just 01:33:58.840 --> 01:34:03.400 Take down over time. I actually prefer now that there's an active process to it 01:34:03.640 --> 01:34:08.840 I think before when you were just passively observing and taking all of that in I think it was worse 01:34:09.240 --> 01:34:12.120 Even now I think sometimes, you know, maybe 01:34:12.920 --> 01:34:16.600 It can be a little much at times. Um, because you dive real deep into stuff 01:34:17.560 --> 01:34:25.960 But Yeah The um, would you implement auto shadow ban on Floatplane? We have no auto banning on Floatplane the religious symbol in question 01:34:27.080 --> 01:34:34.120 Yeah That's a game board aren't there other game boards next to it that should have given it away not on the same wall 01:34:34.280 --> 01:34:37.640 Oh, okay. Yeah, it doesn't matter. You just like what are you talking about? 01:34:38.600 --> 01:34:41.640 Like what are you talking about calm down? Relax 01:34:42.280 --> 01:34:50.760 Calm down the world is the world is f***ed up enough without like, you know, not being able to calm down a little bit, you know 01:34:51.640 --> 01:34:53.640 Yeah 01:34:54.680 --> 01:35:00.760 Anyway, so yeah chewy is chewy went from I think being very light moderation minded to 01:35:01.720 --> 01:35:05.960 Nowadays no, it's needed like if anything he's the hammer. Yeah, like 01:35:07.000 --> 01:35:10.280 He's just like no dude. I get it now. It makes I get it now 01:35:11.000 --> 01:35:14.680 Because Think about how stupid 01:35:15.000 --> 01:35:20.520 Okay, okay, you went to you went to high school, right? You know, most of most of you watching probably went to high school 01:35:20.600 --> 01:35:23.000 What an accusation. So you you probably how dare you? 01:35:24.200 --> 01:35:27.880 You probably had somewhere between 500 and a thousand people in your school 01:35:28.520 --> 01:35:31.320 Okay, so think about there was some absolute 01:35:32.040 --> 01:35:37.400 Think about the five to ten biggest complete f*** wits in your high school 01:35:38.040 --> 01:35:44.200 The lack of drama the lack of actual physical fighting and all this other kind of stuff that would happen with the removal of those five people 01:35:44.360 --> 01:35:48.600 Yeah, totally. It's almost always a very small percentage of the population 01:35:49.320 --> 01:35:55.400 but But when you have 14 million people then it's a lot of people 01:35:55.560 --> 01:36:00.760 It's tens of thousands and 14 million people that has a constant somewhat amount of churn 01:36:00.840 --> 01:36:05.160 You have new people coming in all the time You have some people leaving all the time 01:36:05.400 --> 01:36:12.440 And then you have to try to figure out how to deal with this And there's there's a part of the internet that is just going to kind of float around and try to create problems 01:36:12.440 --> 01:36:15.800 Floatplane chat is so unhappy. They're like, don't bring me back to that trauma 01:36:16.680 --> 01:36:22.920 There were 400 in mine. But imagine how much better or not bad that trauma would have been 01:36:23.720 --> 01:36:27.640 If certain people could have been removed. It could have been ground up into food 01:36:28.280 --> 01:36:35.960 Soilet Soilet green everyone's useful. Yes, we will take the hate and turn it into fuel 01:36:37.080 --> 01:36:43.400 guys Hey, it's a little further than shadow banning. Uh-huh 01:36:46.600 --> 01:36:49.800 Okay, um, I gotta get a shadow ban from this job 01:36:52.280 --> 01:36:57.000 Guys Okay, the last thing before we do these merge messages that we're supposed to do 01:36:57.720 --> 01:37:06.040 Scrapyard Wars season 9 finale Coming very very soon on Floatplane for early access. Who will win tune in to find out 01:37:06.040 --> 01:37:10.520 We had a ton of fun with the judges and we're excited to share the culmination of everyone's hard work on the series 01:37:10.520 --> 01:37:15.320 It's over 40 minutes long So it is the longest part of the series here 01:37:15.560 --> 01:37:18.520 Make sure you're subscribed on Floatplane to watch it ahead of everyone else 01:37:19.080 --> 01:37:22.840 Finally a big thank you to jawa for partnering with us this season for scrapyard wars 01:37:23.320 --> 01:37:29.560 They have their own massive giveaway still running and you can score some great prizes like the jawa edition LTT screwdriver 01:37:29.640 --> 01:37:35.240 There are some signed ones I think or even the rigs that luke and i built with our teammates 01:37:35.800 --> 01:37:39.400 Sammy and elijah, which are pretty sick. You can check it out at the link in the description 01:37:39.400 --> 01:37:43.000 But act fast because time is running out 01:37:43.880 --> 01:37:49.400 Um, I watched it today. How's it? It's really good. Nice. It's really good. It's 01:37:50.360 --> 01:37:56.760 Very chaotic. There's a lot of energy. Yeah, because unlike some of the past ones. It's not just judgment day 01:37:57.480 --> 01:38:00.520 Like you were running out doing stuff. Oh, yeah, I was running around doing stuff 01:38:01.400 --> 01:38:06.360 Like and the fact that it comes down to literally the last second. I mean getting the rigs built 01:38:07.480 --> 01:38:09.640 I think one of my drop-offs was like 01:38:11.480 --> 01:38:16.200 Within an hour or something of when we had to present like it was it was close 01:38:16.600 --> 01:38:21.960 We have this this happens a lot with scrapyard wars Which like makes me want to believe in reality tv more 01:38:22.120 --> 01:38:29.480 But then I just still know it's not real where like the the like screwdrivers down point in scrapyard wars is always a point in time 01:38:29.480 --> 01:38:37.480 When we're still working But I think that's just because we just never have even sort of enough time philosophically. I just um 01:38:38.120 --> 01:38:44.360 I'm against faking it. I'm against that like I'd rather have a boring video or make no video than fake a competition 01:38:44.680 --> 01:38:47.560 We threw away a Channel Super Fun at some point because it just like 01:38:49.400 --> 01:38:57.240 Yeah, it was Fake there's some like like we had to it was rather it was boring to make it interesting. It would have had to be fake 01:38:57.480 --> 01:39:01.720 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah There's some do it for the content stuff 01:39:02.200 --> 01:39:07.240 Where like maybe you make a decision that isn't exactly decision that you would normally make but you're doing it for the content 01:39:07.240 --> 01:39:11.480 But that doesn't mean it's fake. Yeah, like I don't mind putting us in situations 01:39:12.040 --> 01:39:16.680 Where interesting stuff might happen. Sure Yeah, it's kind of like the whole dropping thing 01:39:16.680 --> 01:39:20.040 Linus, are you actually clumsy if I need to be care? I've never dropped a child 01:39:20.360 --> 01:39:23.800 Like if I need to be careful with something I can absolutely not drop it 01:39:24.120 --> 01:39:29.720 But you know for the lulls do I allow myself to carry a little bit too much? 01:39:30.440 --> 01:39:35.880 Willy won'ty willy won'ty, you know when I'm on camera. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, it's just part of the it's part of the character 01:39:35.880 --> 01:39:44.040 It's part of the fun And it's always funny to see like long time viewers. Hold on one sec. Sorry. I gotta go back to this dark 24 said 01:39:44.600 --> 01:39:50.360 Just think if we eliminated everyone we did not like or everything we did not like the world would be boring and not sustainable 01:39:50.600 --> 01:39:53.640 Yeah, that's not what we're doing Yeah 01:39:53.640 --> 01:39:59.720 So we're good. Yeah, it's just if there is no part of the rules that will get you shadow banned that is disagreeing with us 01:40:01.000 --> 01:40:04.040 Yeah Or even really like 01:40:04.440 --> 01:40:10.200 Being a little bit mean. Yeah Yeah, but if you're gonna get enraged 01:40:10.920 --> 01:40:14.200 About a chinese checkers board. We don't need that energy. We don't need it 01:40:15.000 --> 01:40:18.200 We don't need it if you ask. Hey, is that that? 01:40:18.760 --> 01:40:24.840 That's totally fine. Completely fine asking questions always allowed. No problem making up a transgression 01:40:26.120 --> 01:40:31.960 Getting angry about it and acting out go f*** yourself. See you later. Yep 01:40:32.920 --> 01:40:41.320 Not cool Not cool. You know what is cool is finally letting Dan read these merge messages to us. Did we do one? 01:40:42.120 --> 01:40:44.440 Yeah, I think you did one. Nice. Who knows? 01:40:46.360 --> 01:40:48.360 Nice 01:40:49.640 --> 01:40:59.560 Uh, okay. Yeah, let's see. What do we have? Hello, lld. I worked at geek squad and have some wild customer stories like a customer wrapping a hard drive in aluminum foil to 01:41:00.040 --> 01:41:05.560 Not get hacked on the way out any crazy stories from any of you. Yes 01:41:07.080 --> 01:41:09.580 Yes, I keep forgetting to tell this story. Oh 01:41:10.520 --> 01:41:12.520 there is one time where 01:41:13.560 --> 01:41:19.960 one time in my life When I was like an adult because I mean my brother was around and saved me when I was a kid 01:41:19.960 --> 01:41:22.680 But there was one time in my life when I was adult where I needed 01:41:23.080 --> 01:41:28.120 Another like man to like physically protect me and it was when I worked at geek squad 01:41:29.640 --> 01:41:32.760 I don't even know if I fully told you this. I don't think I've heard this story 01:41:32.840 --> 01:41:38.680 I think I might have but it was a long long time ago So I worked at geek squad and something that I did that was bad 01:41:39.000 --> 01:41:42.520 Was every once in a while when people would come in and they would talk about needing websites 01:41:43.400 --> 01:41:51.320 Like they would need a website to get made you didn't I would definitely offer my services outside of geek squad. Oh my goodness. Do you have a kid? I don't have any money 01:41:51.960 --> 01:41:57.400 Me like nothing. I'm getting it done. And this wasn't a service that they offered. Yeah. I mean, yeah 01:41:58.360 --> 01:42:03.560 You can't get a website made by Best Buy. So anyways, look, I'm not saying what you should or shouldn't have done 01:42:03.800 --> 01:42:10.680 I'm just saying Geek squad geek squad probably wouldn't have liked it. Oh, no, not at all. That's all I'll say extremely against the rules 01:42:10.760 --> 01:42:13.800 Yeah, that's all I'll say. It's been a long time. It's probably fine. Um 01:42:15.080 --> 01:42:17.880 Anyways, so I I had a few different contacts. Hold on 01:42:18.680 --> 01:42:20.920 Nerdy in Floatplane chess says I know a guy 01:42:21.720 --> 01:42:26.440 His name's duke Amazing 01:42:26.680 --> 01:42:29.880 He probably could have handled it. I added the second part. Um, I I yeah 01:42:29.880 --> 01:42:34.440 And there's so I had a few clients that went through there and it was always it was always good and then 01:42:35.240 --> 01:42:38.280 One dude came in and I was like, okay. Yeah, let's do it. We met 01:42:39.320 --> 01:42:45.080 To to figure out this was outside of work with just him and I at some restaurant to like figure out the details over the thing 01:42:45.320 --> 01:42:47.320 I ended up figuring out that it was like a 01:42:48.840 --> 01:42:53.160 The world is ending website thing 01:42:53.720 --> 01:42:58.680 Yeah, 2012 2012 man. Yeah, we're just gonna end in 2012 and he wanted me to do it for free 01:42:59.880 --> 01:43:03.320 Because he was like, this is your contribution to like the cause or whatever 01:43:03.960 --> 01:43:05.960 and I was like, no like 01:43:07.560 --> 01:43:11.960 Doing this because I am an extremely broke child because I was still working at Geek Squad 01:43:11.960 --> 01:43:15.400 so I was like actually a teenager still um 01:43:15.400 --> 01:43:25.400 and This guy ended up stalking me for a while quite legitimately because he decided at some point in his head that I was the only person who could do this 01:43:27.160 --> 01:43:33.160 And he was like the world's gonna end. We need to get the the word out and this is the only person who can do it 01:43:34.120 --> 01:43:37.400 um And he would come into like 01:43:37.560 --> 01:43:40.360 The the best buy that I worked at and like watch me 01:43:41.400 --> 01:43:46.920 from far away And we just kind of dealt with it for a while because he wasn't actually really doing anything 01:43:47.080 --> 01:43:49.960 And then one time he like tried to get into the Geek Squad back room 01:43:50.680 --> 01:43:53.080 and one of the like more senior 01:43:53.960 --> 01:43:57.160 um Did the in-home work? I don't know what they're actually called 01:43:57.160 --> 01:44:02.520 But they're like the higher level Geek Squad technicians that I was working with in like the suit and stuff that like looked cool 01:44:03.000 --> 01:44:08.920 Physically removed him from the store for me and that was really freaking cool. And I remember thinking like 01:44:11.080 --> 01:44:18.840 This feels weird Because like I feel like I should be able to do this. But at that point in time, I'm not touching this dude 01:44:19.000 --> 01:44:22.360 I don't want to go anywhere near him. I'm mostly like creeped out 01:44:22.440 --> 01:44:25.320 It's not like a physical challenge for me at this time. And then 01:44:25.800 --> 01:44:31.800 guardian angel guy came in Swooped him out of the store and made it very clear that he should never come back 01:44:32.280 --> 01:44:36.600 And the dude never came back and it was great And that was probably 01:44:36.600 --> 01:44:41.400 One of the many craziest things that happened when I worked at Geek Squad there was like one issue where 01:44:41.400 --> 01:44:45.080 We used to have the monitors like if this is so Geek Squad when I worked there 01:44:45.480 --> 01:44:48.600 Um, one of the times that I worked there there was a public like window 01:44:49.160 --> 01:44:54.200 Into the Geek Squad back area So there was a cut out. It wasn't a window. It was a it was a cut out 01:44:54.280 --> 01:44:59.240 So you could come up to like the service desk thing and basically like look into the service desk area 01:44:59.240 --> 01:45:03.320 You could put your computer through the window, etc. They're called CIA agents. Yeah, that's right 01:45:03.400 --> 01:45:07.320 I don't remember what it stood for but anyways um 01:45:07.320 --> 01:45:11.400 And the monitors for the computers that we would work on were against this wall 01:45:11.560 --> 01:45:17.240 Assuming the Windows here so you could see them and it happened more than once where people's screen savers 01:45:18.760 --> 01:45:25.240 Defaulted to their like local folders or whatever which would have photos of them and their partners doing things 01:45:25.640 --> 01:45:31.400 Um, so eventually the precinct is what they called it was redesigned so that 01:45:31.800 --> 01:45:39.000 Uh customers wouldn't see back there And it wasn't because we were like trying to hide what we were doing quite legitimately is because we were trying to 01:45:40.120 --> 01:45:43.080 Hide what you were doing. Um, anyways 01:45:55.080 --> 01:46:01.560 Oh, that was so funny. I my mic was muted. I'm gonna do it again. Okay. 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Yeah 01:50:11.720 --> 01:50:17.240 Speaking of the police I was reading in the news that there was a counterfeit phone bust 01:50:17.960 --> 01:50:21.720 like hundreds of phones in like maple orage or something and 01:50:22.680 --> 01:50:26.520 Like the investigation was ongoing for a while. I would guess with that many devices 01:50:26.600 --> 01:50:34.120 There's some level of organization in this operation And so I reached out to a buddy who works in admin at the rcmp and I was like, hey 01:50:34.200 --> 01:50:39.960 I know this is sort of unconventional Like, you know evidence lockers and stuff like that, but can I get some of these phones? 01:50:40.520 --> 01:50:43.400 Uh, and can we do like a collaborative thing where 01:50:44.200 --> 01:50:48.360 Awareness can be Yeah, we talk about sort of, you know 01:50:48.840 --> 01:50:52.440 How what how you can identify these devices how these networks work 01:50:53.160 --> 01:50:58.920 You guys obviously want some attention on this on this bust because like I read an article about it 01:50:58.920 --> 01:51:06.840 So clearly you guys want people looking at this thing So I think, you know, we can help each other out here because I think that has a lot of relevance to my audience 01:51:06.920 --> 01:51:15.080 And I heard back nothing's for sure But they are a high level of interested in working together and they may be able to get us at least one device 01:51:15.240 --> 01:51:18.920 So that we can kind of talk through You know 01:51:18.920 --> 01:51:24.600 Are they the exact same as anyone's getting on aliexpress? Are they stolen are they modified like what are we what are we looking at here? 01:51:24.600 --> 01:51:28.760 What kinds of phones are because for me a big part of it is how does the scam work? 01:51:29.480 --> 01:51:33.880 Yeah, yeah, because a lot of the stuff on aliexpress a fake iphone or whatever. It's pretty obvious 01:51:33.880 --> 01:51:36.360 It's not an iphone from the second you touch it. So like 01:51:37.080 --> 01:51:43.080 What's the scam here? And so it'd be really cool to hear from people who have actually, you know worked with the victims and stuff like that and 01:51:43.880 --> 01:51:46.840 I think I think it'd be a pretty cool. I think it'd be a pretty cool video 01:51:47.720 --> 01:51:51.400 Dr. O says not sure if it's legal, but you should be dressed as rcmp in that video 01:51:52.280 --> 01:51:55.880 Definitely not legal. Yeah, I I will not be doing that 01:51:55.880 --> 01:52:00.200 But but if I could get funny if you had like a fake cop like I could get in a cop car or something 01:52:00.520 --> 01:52:04.200 Oh, you know, I'd be I'd be down. I've never been in a cop car. They should put you in a jail cell 01:52:05.080 --> 01:52:11.000 Um, that'd be a really good intro. Yeah is like they probably slamming it shut on me. Yeah, so 01:52:11.960 --> 01:52:14.760 Let me see what they're able and willing to do 01:52:15.080 --> 01:52:18.360 But I think that this is a really cool opportunity 01:52:19.320 --> 01:52:23.000 For them to get some eyes on some of the work that they do that isn't you know 01:52:26.440 --> 01:52:33.160 Some of the things that they do And you know, maybe an opportunity for us to tell them what's important to us and say hey 01:52:33.160 --> 01:52:37.320 This is actually something really important that you guys are doing do more of it 01:52:38.600 --> 01:52:43.240 You know, maybe everyone maybe there can be good vibes and good messages here is all I'm trying to say. Yeah 01:52:43.960 --> 01:52:51.320 um Cool. No, I've never actually been handcuffed stuck in. Yeah, I mean either my head is stuck in trying to imagine 01:52:51.880 --> 01:52:55.000 The intro to that video. Maybe that should be my next phone 01:52:56.840 --> 01:53:00.440 Uh after the iphone. Yeah, there's no, I don't think I'll get to keep it 01:53:00.840 --> 01:53:05.800 Um, like there's also concerns about like what's on the phone. Yeah, I'll just be borrowing it. I'll be borrowing it. Yeah 01:53:06.440 --> 01:53:12.600 All right, uh, what do we want to talk about next AMD has walked back some of their unrealistic Ryzen 9 000 benchmarks 01:53:13.080 --> 01:53:18.120 Um, they have retracted some performance claims after independent benchmarks fell short of those rosy numbers 01:53:18.440 --> 01:53:25.480 And I got to say excuse me. Sorry. I think that this is a big part of the more positive tone that we took in our video 01:53:26.840 --> 01:53:30.360 I didn't look at their pre-release benchmark claims 01:53:31.240 --> 01:53:33.960 I didn't look at any of it. I don't care. What's 01:53:35.640 --> 01:53:39.320 Do I talk about that? So all I looked at was our testing 01:53:40.600 --> 01:53:45.960 And I was like, oh, okay. Well, there some of the complications in the testing that we did was because 01:53:46.680 --> 01:53:52.040 We compared our numbers to theirs Interesting and then we were like, oh, do we need to like retest stuff? 01:53:52.120 --> 01:53:55.400 We got in contact with them trying to figure what was going on, etc, etc 01:53:55.480 --> 01:53:58.440 And then through enough like retesting and stuff. We were like, well, 01:53:59.480 --> 01:54:02.840 It is what it is. Yeah, so I wasn't exposed to any of that 01:54:03.320 --> 01:54:07.640 And I was like, well, they're like better than the old ones, which is nice. They're not x3d 01:54:07.720 --> 01:54:11.640 So they're not going to be ideal for gaming. So if you're a gamer wait for that. Um 01:54:13.160 --> 01:54:18.120 But like that's an interesting way of looking at that. Yeah, so I think that I think that there was 01:54:18.600 --> 01:54:27.880 In some ways a lot of anger About AMD's positioning of these products because of the expectation set by AMD. Which makes sense whereas I just I mean, you know 01:54:28.200 --> 01:54:37.000 You know how I have trended over the years from really engaging in rumor mill conversations to basically ignoring those 01:54:37.400 --> 01:54:40.040 but paying attention to you know, um 01:54:41.000 --> 01:54:43.400 internal, you know scuttle, but to 01:54:44.200 --> 01:54:47.560 Even ignoring like that even if it's coming from people within the same company 01:54:47.880 --> 01:54:54.680 I'll believe it when I actually test it myself to like seeing the presentation and being like, okay. Yeah, this is going to be pretty cool to 01:54:55.480 --> 01:55:01.400 I don't know. Let's just put it on a bench. Like I just There are certain companies that I mostly trust 01:55:01.880 --> 01:55:05.160 Um AMD has been pretty good about it on the CPU side for a long time 01:55:05.160 --> 01:55:10.680 But I think this was just the reminder that as the second a company has a less than 01:55:11.560 --> 01:55:15.960 Grand slam product to launch They will slip back into old habits 01:55:16.360 --> 01:55:24.840 immediately um Anyway, according to AMD the company ran their tests in admin mode aka this hidden system administrator account in Windows 11 01:55:25.240 --> 01:55:29.320 According to hardware unboxed this account is different from an account with administrator permissions 01:55:29.320 --> 01:55:35.080 And that it has fewer user safeguards such as requesting confirmation before proceeding with a potentially damaging request 01:55:35.480 --> 01:55:39.800 The account also likely runs processes with virtualization based security disabled 01:55:39.880 --> 01:55:43.240 Leading to better performance at the cost of significant vulnerabilities 01:55:43.880 --> 01:55:49.640 So that is a thing they shouldn't have done and they should have known better than to do 01:55:50.040 --> 01:55:53.080 However, I can imagine some workflow where that 01:55:53.640 --> 01:55:56.600 Made sense for their device imaging or whatever the case may be 01:55:57.000 --> 01:55:59.880 But hopefully they learned a valuable lesson here 01:56:01.400 --> 01:56:03.640 Yeah, because it doesn't make you look good. It makes you look worse 01:56:05.640 --> 01:56:11.320 Oh, this is pretty cool. Yes, uh j 5 29 in Floatplane chat says hey 01:56:12.040 --> 01:56:16.920 update from last week's dystopian hell the us sued real page this week 01:56:17.240 --> 01:56:24.920 This is actually in the dock Um, the department of justice in the us says real page is rental collusion 01:56:25.400 --> 01:56:33.160 So shout out doj man the doj and the ftc have been actually doing useful stuff in the tech space for the first time since 01:56:34.120 --> 01:56:41.320 We've been doing wanshow No, really though. We've been asking them for them to do this for oh, no, we like some of the stuff that um, 01:56:41.640 --> 01:56:48.520 What's his name? former ftc chair who was uh, who was helping out with like not Reese's cup, right? 01:56:49.160 --> 01:56:55.960 Who Reese's cup? No, no, no, I'm talking like an ftc was a net neutrality net neutrality stuff. Wasn't that the Reese's cup back in the day 01:56:56.600 --> 01:57:01.000 I thought we didn't like that um 01:57:01.000 --> 01:57:04.200 No, no, no, they like they like fixed net neutrality when it was 01:57:05.400 --> 01:57:11.800 Oh, it was fc fcc Yeah, didn't we not like that guy? No, no, I thought it was the guy before that. Oh before him 01:57:12.440 --> 01:57:17.320 Was the guy before that? I don't know who was before that. I just remember Reese's cup 01:57:17.960 --> 01:57:22.440 Anyway, the point is the point is the doj and the ftc have been like 01:57:22.840 --> 01:57:28.840 Actually doing some really useful stuff lately and whichever administration is coming in in november 01:57:29.640 --> 01:57:33.880 Or no, November's the election. I think it's february is the inauguration or whatever. It doesn't matter 01:57:33.880 --> 01:57:39.160 The point is whoever's coming in, please just let them do their thing. Okay, you're you're talking about tom wheeler 01:57:39.640 --> 01:57:45.080 Yeah, maybe it was tom wheeler. Was he the one we liked a jit pie was the no, we hated him Reese's cup guy 01:57:45.160 --> 01:57:49.160 That was that was him. Yeah, he sucked. Yeah, he sucked. Yeah, okay. I just remember talking about him a lot 01:57:49.400 --> 01:57:53.320 Yeah, no, he tried to roll back the changes. No, yeah, tom wheeler was cool. Yeah, that's right 01:57:53.640 --> 01:57:56.440 Dude, it's been a long time ago. Yeah, it's been a long time ago 01:57:57.240 --> 01:58:00.600 It's been a long time. We're not even american 01:58:00.760 --> 01:58:03.560 I paid way less attention to american politics and like 01:58:04.200 --> 01:58:08.840 The ftc and fcc and doj and all this back then because I just like didn't think it mattered as much 01:58:08.920 --> 01:58:13.480 But now it's so clear that whatever happens in america just like happens in the rest of the world 01:58:14.040 --> 01:58:16.680 Especially here speaking of things 01:58:17.320 --> 01:58:20.360 Happening in one territory and not necessarily 01:58:20.920 --> 01:58:25.000 Happening in another territory apple has divided the app store team 01:58:25.320 --> 01:58:31.480 So if we were hopeful that the app store rules that the eu has forced apple to enact in order to be 01:58:32.360 --> 01:58:39.240 um Less anti competitive if we were hoping that it was just going to trickle out into the rest of the territories 01:58:39.640 --> 01:58:48.360 The answer is no apple makes so much money behaving in anti competitive ways with the app store that they will continue 01:58:48.920 --> 01:58:55.320 um By splitting it into two separate app store divisions one that handles its 01:58:55.960 --> 01:59:01.800 Regulatory compliant eu store and the other half that controls its app store for the rest of the world 01:59:02.440 --> 01:59:11.240 Thanks apple I'm not surprised. Oh, okay. I'm a little surprised actually. I am surprised in the sense that I'm surprised that the move happened 01:59:11.560 --> 01:59:18.280 I'm not surprised that apple Would try to do something like this to protect profits. I I I 01:59:19.000 --> 01:59:28.920 Would be not surprised six months ago But the way that apple has started behaving in the last six months. Oh, yeah, you know with um, they've been a lot more careful 01:59:30.040 --> 01:59:34.040 Yes Um 01:59:34.040 --> 01:59:39.240 Like seeing them implement rcs for example, uh seeing them just sort of 01:59:41.000 --> 01:59:43.320 Honestly iOS 18 was such a 01:59:44.200 --> 01:59:48.040 Hey, where we're doing stuff. We're listening. Ha, we're customer driven 01:59:48.600 --> 01:59:52.840 um Like laundry list of stuff they should have done forever ago 01:59:53.800 --> 01:59:57.400 I'm a little surprised to see new apple continue to 01:59:58.120 --> 02:00:03.160 Brazenly behave in this way and I do think it's a matter of time before the us just goes 02:00:03.240 --> 02:00:09.400 Hey, yeah, all that stuff you're doing over there Hurry up and do it or we're throwing the book at you if you get a european iphone 02:00:10.040 --> 02:00:14.600 No, you're still bound by whatever region you're in. It doesn't matter if my iphone came from america 02:00:14.600 --> 02:00:17.800 I can't access the us app store up here for example. Okay. Yeah 02:00:20.040 --> 02:00:23.720 Thank yeah Uh 02:00:23.720 --> 02:00:30.360 What else is there to talk about this week in ai you want to do our weekly ai roundup? Sure scientists at the university of british columbia 02:00:31.080 --> 02:00:35.160 Well, let's go Those people live near me 02:00:35.240 --> 02:00:41.720 Ha ha ha that's that's my team my team just scored. Um, I mean that team kicked me off. So 02:00:45.960 --> 02:00:52.200 rough Scientists at the university of british columbia are teaching an ai scientist 02:00:52.600 --> 02:00:56.440 An ai agent that runs experiments and writes research papers about the results 02:00:57.240 --> 02:01:06.280 What there have been so There have so far been a few interesting results while the ai could create decent hypotheses and test them 02:01:06.440 --> 02:01:15.080 It wasn't very good at assessing its own output It also repeatedly attempted to solve the problems it was given in unexpected ways during one run 02:01:15.720 --> 02:01:19.560 It determined that it couldn't complete its task in the time allotted. So instead 02:01:20.040 --> 02:01:22.680 edited its own code to extend the deadline 02:01:25.880 --> 02:01:28.680 This is what developers would do if they could um 02:01:29.240 --> 02:01:33.640 They edited its own code to extend the deadline from two hours to four during another run 02:01:33.880 --> 02:01:40.840 It altered its code to save a checkpoint for every update step which eventually took up a terabyte of storage 02:01:41.560 --> 02:01:47.320 Wow, uh texas-based lingo telecom is a new topic. Yes, you can't tell from his intonation. That's fair 02:01:47.720 --> 02:01:55.000 Uh texas-based lingo telecom has agreed to pay a one million dollar fine for transmitting a spoofed robo call 02:01:55.320 --> 02:02:01.880 Where a deep fake of president joe biden discouraged nearly 4 000 new hampshire residents. Whoa 02:02:02.840 --> 02:02:04.840 For voting in the presidential primary 02:02:06.520 --> 02:02:10.360 lingo telecom relied on a 16 year old certificate 02:02:10.920 --> 02:02:15.480 From a former customer who took no further steps to verify the caller's identity 02:02:16.200 --> 02:02:27.560 Steve kramer who commissioned the fake call Was indicted on 13 felony counts of voter suppression and 13 misdemeanor counts of impersonated candidate in may 02:02:28.360 --> 02:02:37.640 Wow, i'm surprised it wasn't 4 000 because that's how many times you did it But anyways new topic again slack ai can apparently be fooled into leaking data from private channels through prompt injection 02:02:37.640 --> 02:02:43.400 Which i am not even sort of surprised about as this type of attack has existed since day one 02:02:43.720 --> 02:02:47.800 And is why i mean we don't have slack ai and you probably shouldn't either 02:02:48.360 --> 02:02:52.040 New topic lindy ai a company that provides bots through 02:02:53.240 --> 02:03:02.680 Provides bots to respond to customer messages Had to retrain his spot after the automatic message responder for their own customer support email responded to a 02:03:04.040 --> 02:03:11.160 I saw this Responded to a client with a video tutorial, which was actually just a link to rick asley's never going to give you up 02:03:11.400 --> 02:03:16.120 This apparently has happened twice and i'm going to comment on that when you train an ai agent on reddit 02:03:16.760 --> 02:03:20.680 Yes, when you train ai agents on human behavior 02:03:21.000 --> 02:03:25.400 Sometimes they're going to do human behavior in ways that you wouldn't want 02:03:25.800 --> 02:03:29.480 Um discussion question. What's the problem with the future? 02:03:29.880 --> 02:03:35.720 What what's the problem with a future where ai agents are left unsupervised with access to important infrastructure code 02:03:35.960 --> 02:03:39.080 When they engage in this type of creative problem solving well 02:03:40.360 --> 02:03:44.840 Current versions of these things are should not be left unsupervised and that's just 02:03:46.200 --> 02:03:51.240 Do you foresee a future where we can leave them unsupervised? Yeah, but not with current tech 02:03:51.720 --> 02:03:57.560 We have to solve some pretty big jumps before we get there. There's there's two extremely major problems 02:03:58.200 --> 02:04:03.400 Um with the current systems one of them is hallucinations. The other one is I don't remember what it's called 02:04:03.480 --> 02:04:10.360 But when you kind of run out of human data to train on and then you start running into your own data or other ai generative data 02:04:11.240 --> 02:04:17.960 Or just if there isn't enough quality data you start generating just more garbage and and your results get worse and worse 02:04:18.120 --> 02:04:21.320 So that has to be addressed and the hallucination problem needs to be addressed 02:04:21.480 --> 02:04:26.600 But there's still llm. So there's still prediction tools. They're not actually computing 02:04:27.080 --> 02:04:32.280 Um in a lot of these cases You can you can mix models. You can mix tools 02:04:32.600 --> 02:04:37.160 You can give the llm llms access to other tools that can help them things like that 02:04:37.880 --> 02:04:42.200 but we're So we said so it's not really ai. Well, yeah, no, it isn't no 02:04:42.440 --> 02:04:48.440 We did a video on how ai is not ai a little while ago and it made some ai bros really mad 02:04:48.920 --> 02:04:51.400 Yeah, but other than that. It was correct. So yeah 02:04:52.360 --> 02:04:58.280 And like and to be clear nothing we said in that video was that the current tools aren't really cool and they're useful 02:04:58.440 --> 02:05:02.040 dude Emma 02:05:02.040 --> 02:05:08.840 Did something sick recently where her company has this sheet that they use it's like a 02:05:10.040 --> 02:05:13.960 I haven't fully read through all the stuff. So she's going to kill me if I get this wrong and I'm going to get it wrong 02:05:13.960 --> 02:05:21.480 So I guess I'm going to die later. Um It there's this sheet that they use for like, uh, customer stuff 02:05:21.800 --> 02:05:26.440 I won't get into it way more than that, but um, it was a very manual process 02:05:26.920 --> 02:05:31.720 You didn't put things and then you'd select drop downs. You go through the same a lot of manual, uh, process 02:05:31.800 --> 02:05:34.680 A lot of manually updating a lot of everything was manual 02:05:35.000 --> 02:05:43.160 She worked with chat gpt And went through iterations did an initial long initial prompt and then debugged with it and did all this kind of stuff 02:05:43.400 --> 02:05:47.080 And got a bunch of whatever the google sheet scripting language is 02:05:47.480 --> 02:05:54.520 They got a big long effective script to automate a huge portion of the process and make the sheet look way better 02:05:55.160 --> 02:05:59.560 And just massively simplified everyone's lives and she's not a developer 02:06:01.000 --> 02:06:05.000 The like thing happened Super cool 02:06:05.080 --> 02:06:09.480 Because that's the type of like we already have co-pilot and things for the 02:06:10.280 --> 02:06:16.360 The programmers themselves but coding through like chat gpt for someone that doesn't actually know how to do it but 02:06:17.080 --> 02:06:24.120 knows enough to like See errors and understand what it needs to communicate to the lm in order to get it to fix the errors 02:06:24.440 --> 02:06:28.680 And can can look at the error that when it brings you to a certain part of code and then recognize 02:06:28.680 --> 02:06:34.360 Okay, this particular thing is broken. So you might be able to expand on just the error that the compiler found etc 02:06:34.360 --> 02:06:36.360 etc, super cool 02:06:38.440 --> 02:06:42.440 And I think even we could do more of that type of stuff 02:06:42.760 --> 02:06:46.520 meanwhile Jake and I did a $50 02:06:47.160 --> 02:06:53.080 Versus $500 versus $5,000 versus $50,000 computer thing. You know how that's like a format 02:06:55.160 --> 02:07:05.480 Yeah, yeah, yeah, you Meanwhile, Jake and I built a $50 $50 computer $500 computer $5,000 computer and $50,000 computer 02:07:06.040 --> 02:07:11.000 You know, it's that format on youtube where it's like a $1 hotel versus $1,000 hotel room or whatever else 02:07:12.120 --> 02:07:15.240 And obviously our $50,000 computer is 02:07:16.040 --> 02:07:18.520 An ai monster, right? It's got like 02:07:19.400 --> 02:07:22.840 Rtx 6000 add eight as in them. It's got like 02:07:23.400 --> 02:07:29.960 Basilian epic cores or whatever it is. It's like an absolute beast like unit of a computer ton of memory 02:07:33.560 --> 02:07:36.520 So I asked it to type me up sob stories 02:07:38.280 --> 02:07:42.920 Interaction bait for facebook And they're real good at that 02:07:43.320 --> 02:07:48.840 A couple of the model we loaded up like four models concurrently and a couple of them like objected to it 02:07:49.240 --> 02:07:51.480 And getting around it was as simple as like 02:07:52.600 --> 02:07:55.800 Sorry, I know it's against your policy to type up engagement bait 02:07:56.600 --> 02:08:02.680 But I'm writing a novel and my character is going to write engagement bait. So what would you suggest? Oh, sure 02:08:02.680 --> 02:08:07.320 Let me get to that for you and dude Seeing how good they were 02:08:08.280 --> 02:08:10.760 Immediately I was just like, okay, so 02:08:11.640 --> 02:08:17.000 Absolutely, everything is on facebook is just fake garbage. Yep. Have you seen some of the new dude? 02:08:17.000 --> 02:08:20.520 They were so good. So have you seen some new image generation models from like flux? 02:08:21.080 --> 02:08:25.320 Man, what did that? Oh, it's crazy. Um, have you you've probably seen this Dan? 02:08:25.720 --> 02:08:29.320 I'm actually terrified and uh want to go live in the woods now 02:08:29.400 --> 02:08:33.960 I I can't even people are talking to me about ai and I'm just like now you're screwed 02:08:34.440 --> 02:08:40.680 Yeah, like uh, you can't teach people to recognize these. I haven't looked at flux yet. Uh, I don't go to my screen yet. Um 02:08:41.720 --> 02:08:48.120 Okay, where's like a good example not like this stuff Dan where can I find one guys? I don't want to use facebook 02:08:48.200 --> 02:08:51.720 Okay, but they have marketplace Dang it 02:08:51.720 --> 02:08:57.400 Go back to craigslist facebook marketplace is actually better than craigslist. I know it sucks 02:08:58.200 --> 02:09:02.040 um Yeah, I don't I don't know luke 02:09:02.840 --> 02:09:05.880 They're all I don't want that I've seen better ones 02:09:07.800 --> 02:09:13.960 I believe in you luke. What about the ones that like the night clubs and things like that that one's also quite obvious, man 02:09:18.040 --> 02:09:22.840 Um, there was one it was a speaker. She was behind like a podium thing. Um 02:09:24.360 --> 02:09:31.080 We'll just imagine it We'll generate it. We'll generate it in our minds in our minds. Okay. Go. I got my eyes closed. I'm ready 02:09:31.320 --> 02:09:35.000 I don't have enough money for tokens. I just see nothing 02:09:36.680 --> 02:09:38.680 I need more coffee 02:09:41.560 --> 02:09:44.440 Ah, these are like kind of obvious. Uh, here we go 02:09:47.000 --> 02:09:50.600 I can tell So that's a bowl of pickles. That's obvious 02:09:51.000 --> 02:09:55.560 It's too dark. I thought you were talking about like the super low quality kind of like frosted prick 02:09:56.360 --> 02:10:00.360 Oh, it's pretty funny The text on that's really good 02:10:00.840 --> 02:10:05.640 The text is quite good. It's not Colons. I like colons 02:10:10.760 --> 02:10:12.760 That one's pretty amazing. Yeah 02:10:14.600 --> 02:10:19.560 Conveniently no hands this kind of like abstract stuff has been pretty good for a while though 02:10:19.960 --> 02:10:23.320 That was pretty crazy. You can often tell what the fuzziness of the hair 02:10:24.840 --> 02:10:27.320 Like it loses me a little bit here 02:10:28.280 --> 02:10:33.960 But not that much. It's very good. It's backpack doesn't seem to actually be a backpack. Yeah, there's like it's just a strap 02:10:34.120 --> 02:10:37.640 But this is all stuff that I'm only noticing because I know it's a 02:10:38.120 --> 02:10:46.920 Yeah, I'm looking at but they still have that like smear on them Like that that little bit of ai vaseline where the configuration is set too high so that it follows your prompt 02:10:46.920 --> 02:10:53.640 But I don't know I there's like there's like one really particular image that people are sharing around and for some reason right now 02:10:53.640 --> 02:10:59.240 I just can't find it, but it's like It's actually incredible. Do you want to describe it and then maybe the audience can find it for us? 02:10:59.880 --> 02:11:05.880 Yeah, it's it's uh, it's Someone speaking on like a podium of some kind 02:11:06.280 --> 02:11:12.280 Um, and it was put up on a bunch of different sites and they were asking people if they could tell if it was 02:11:12.920 --> 02:11:17.720 Real or not. They had wait. They had a real picture that was very similar to the fake picture 02:11:17.960 --> 02:11:24.840 And they're asking people which one was real and which one wasn't and it was a woman standing at a podium speaking into 02:11:24.840 --> 02:11:29.640 I believe a microphone and there was the two comparatives if it wasn't a microphone. It was probably the ai one 02:11:30.520 --> 02:11:35.400 No, I think they're both microphones um And that's good. They were both like 02:11:36.840 --> 02:11:38.840 A lot of people were wrong 02:11:41.320 --> 02:11:46.200 Okay, so here's one this isn't the one I was talking about but this is an ai image apparently 02:11:48.760 --> 02:11:53.080 Mike cable really yeah, Mike cable is coming out at a slightly weird angle, but that could happen 02:11:53.720 --> 02:11:55.720 But yeah, not real 02:11:57.000 --> 02:12:01.800 Not real That one's yeah, her chest looks super weird not that I was looking there right away 02:12:02.920 --> 02:12:08.520 Is it the shadow here? Yeah, like that looks like that just jumped off of the screen at me 02:12:09.320 --> 02:12:13.880 Hold on this this guy is ai. Yeah, hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Let me look at him for a second here 02:12:14.360 --> 02:12:17.880 Wow, they've even got the they've even got the weird little like cheeto 02:12:18.520 --> 02:12:23.080 Cheese puff mic on him. Yeah His hands are not bad 02:12:24.200 --> 02:12:29.080 Like they look a little weird, but some people I sent links. I'm not gonna click on them while I'm sharing my screen 02:12:29.080 --> 02:12:32.120 I'm sorry. Some people have slightly weird hands, you know, I will share them soon 02:12:34.760 --> 02:12:37.560 Is it is it a video obviously not the NVIDIA logo 02:12:38.200 --> 02:12:43.640 But this is supposed to be like an NVIDIA conference. Wow. Were you talking about a video luke? No, okay 02:12:46.040 --> 02:12:56.280 Huh Yeah, these are getting like these are crazy. I I for some of these like I'm not gonna be able to guess it, you know 02:12:57.320 --> 02:13:02.520 Wait, well, so these are maybe real or maybe not. No, these are these are all things are all the ones we just went through a fake 02:13:02.840 --> 02:13:07.560 Wow That is unbelievable 02:13:08.760 --> 02:13:13.080 This is video You 02:13:16.840 --> 02:13:19.640 Even the way the earrings move is like pretty okay 02:13:20.280 --> 02:13:24.440 You can see if you look closely at them. They kind of like morph and they're not always round 02:13:25.080 --> 02:13:29.000 But like that's what I'm looking for right like I'm looking for also her her shirt 02:13:29.400 --> 02:13:33.080 Behaves more like a texture. You can see when the mic moves initially here right there 02:13:33.720 --> 02:13:38.920 Oh, yeah, it warps slightly But again, if you're if this is side monitor if you're not really paying attention 02:13:38.920 --> 02:13:44.440 You're probably not going to notice dude. If this is my grandparents. Oh, they're done. Absolutely. They're no wait, dude 02:13:44.520 --> 02:13:52.200 I had to go Um, this isn't what I was talking about. Unfortunately ever since my sister passed away. They haven't had as much help like she was really really 02:13:52.600 --> 02:14:00.120 Um, she was really really good for them And so they left me a voicemail because they're old and they think voicemail is still a thing 02:14:00.200 --> 02:14:03.080 so they left me a voicemail on um 02:14:04.040 --> 02:14:08.840 Yesterday morning morning before I don't know someday this week and they're just like yeah 02:14:08.840 --> 02:14:14.120 Our tv's not working and our phone's not ringing and we're just kind of lost and like okay 02:14:14.120 --> 02:14:17.800 All right, so I get in the car and I drive out there and what am I going to do call them their phone doesn't ring 02:14:18.440 --> 02:14:21.880 um And literally the batteries were dead in their handset 02:14:22.520 --> 02:14:27.000 And the reason their tv remote wasn't working was because they had the box facing the floor 02:14:27.800 --> 02:14:31.480 And it's ir So I just had to pick it up. It's just like okay 02:14:32.440 --> 02:14:36.760 And it's just it's one of those things where it's like, you know, we can laugh or whatever 02:14:36.840 --> 02:14:42.520 But at the end of the day like cognitive decline Is absolutely a thing comes for all of us. I mean do the math i'm 38 02:14:43.320 --> 02:14:46.600 How old do you think my grandparents are they're not young right and um 02:14:47.720 --> 02:14:58.120 And as we get older Like us sitting here like analyzing these images and going like oh, yeah, that looks like uh, that looks more like a texture than like 02:14:58.600 --> 02:15:06.280 actual fabric or There's a slight, uh, you know change in the diameter of this earring as it's moving around like there's absolutely 02:15:07.080 --> 02:15:10.760 no Way that you're going to be able to find 02:15:11.320 --> 02:15:19.000 um That there's absolutely no way that as you start to as you and remember we like work in tech and and graphics and 02:15:19.080 --> 02:15:22.680 Well, we don't work in tech or graphics. We work in media. I mean he works in tech 02:15:23.160 --> 02:15:26.920 Um, but he certainly doesn't work in graphics, but we we look at this stuff 02:15:27.400 --> 02:15:33.400 You know all the time like it not a week goes by when we're not kind of looking at these advances and following them closely 02:15:34.360 --> 02:15:41.400 People who don't or people who are who are not you know as cognitively sharp as they were when they were young like dude 02:15:41.400 --> 02:15:46.120 This is so dangerous So dangerous so this one 02:15:46.760 --> 02:15:54.600 This one was the one that I was talking about Okay, this one was next to another image that I don't have but it was it was two speakers 02:15:55.000 --> 02:15:58.040 In a very similar stance and you had to guess which one was real 02:15:58.840 --> 02:16:03.240 And this one was fake this muscle on her face right here is not right 02:16:06.200 --> 02:16:12.200 I don't know see there there's some things like people pointed out something to do with her armpit another person was like 02:16:12.600 --> 02:16:18.520 Uh shirts don't usually follow this type of like there's slight changes in the pattern and usually shirts are symmetrical and stuff 02:16:18.760 --> 02:16:29.160 I think when we start getting into that type of stuff You start getting into issues because people are going to have physical differences. The hand is really good. The hand is incredibly good 02:16:30.280 --> 02:16:35.480 And the like the bone here and the the muscles in the in the ARM like look 02:16:36.200 --> 02:16:41.880 I'm not I'm not the kind of person who can look at you know Michelangelo's sculptures or whatever and go like oh, yeah 02:16:41.960 --> 02:16:48.120 He really nailed the way that when your pinky is extended like this, you know, it does a thing whatever like I don't know that much about human anatomy 02:16:48.680 --> 02:16:51.720 but there's things that 02:16:51.720 --> 02:16:55.080 This one passes the sniff test pretty well Oh, yeah 02:16:55.080 --> 02:16:58.040 For me other than this one kind of weird thing where like 02:16:58.680 --> 02:17:03.000 These smile lines on the bottom go up in a way that I don't think I've ever seen on someone before 02:17:03.400 --> 02:17:07.000 I think some people have this is my my also has a slightly lazy eye 02:17:07.560 --> 02:17:14.040 But that could just be someone having a lazy eye like the people are gonna be different. So like how how you can't start 02:17:15.080 --> 02:17:18.440 Well, you can but I think you're gonna have serious accuracy issues 02:17:18.440 --> 02:17:24.520 If you start guessing things purely based off that so into the mic shadow, but you might have really weird lighting setups that end up 02:17:24.920 --> 02:17:30.040 having that Like a lot of the things that people were pointing out 02:17:30.680 --> 02:17:35.080 As like this is what made it stand out to me as an AI image are things that could possibly 02:17:36.040 --> 02:17:38.760 Just be the way it is. I don't know like is the badge 02:17:39.320 --> 02:17:45.160 Correct. Yeah, so you can tell on the badge Because the google logo is pretty good and then the text under it gets 02:17:45.880 --> 02:17:49.160 Yeah, because the first thing I'm gonna look into is text 02:17:52.280 --> 02:17:54.680 But like it's like that clip is not on that 02:17:56.440 --> 02:18:03.560 That that clip is has no has no 3d geometry that would work in the real world. In fact, there's two clips 02:18:05.080 --> 02:18:10.760 One of them is clipped to the other clip Sort of it just got like morphs into it. Yeah blue lit 02:18:11.720 --> 02:18:15.560 There's definitely Stuff that's bad here 02:18:15.560 --> 02:18:19.480 Yeah, somebody was like pointing out like this this pattern with the green things or something 02:18:19.480 --> 02:18:24.120 Dude when AI girlfriends get better, there's no way that anyone's going to interact with another human 02:18:26.040 --> 02:18:28.040 She seems nice 02:18:32.360 --> 02:18:38.040 It wasn't a video guys Okay, the video looks oh no, you can you can tell more from the video 02:18:38.600 --> 02:18:42.600 There you go, but what I was talking about was two still images next to each other 02:18:47.960 --> 02:18:52.040 One thing that I noticed with a lot of AI videos is that it's almost like the 02:18:52.760 --> 02:18:56.520 playback speed of different parts of the video are different 02:18:58.040 --> 02:19:02.840 Like her like mouth and face are at like playback speed like 1.2 02:19:03.800 --> 02:19:09.400 But another part of it will be at like 0.9 or something like there's a lot of when saura first came out 02:19:09.480 --> 02:19:16.360 I noticed that a lot Is like different things will be moving at like it's it's it's it's slightly off and you can just sort of tell 02:19:17.240 --> 02:19:20.760 but like man, there's 02:19:22.280 --> 02:19:26.840 It's just It's too much. Yeah 02:19:27.800 --> 02:19:35.080 This combined with Voice spoofing and that thing that we almost talked about a little while ago where you can take just one image of someone 02:19:35.560 --> 02:19:38.920 And then like live edit yourself to look like them 02:19:42.440 --> 02:19:46.120 Just believe nothing verify multiple ways everything nice 02:19:47.240 --> 02:19:51.400 Like is smash champs badminton club and pro shop even a real thing 02:19:52.200 --> 02:19:54.440 Is this an AI generated vending machine? 02:19:55.400 --> 02:20:02.600 Huh, I am the proud owner luke of a vending machine. Is it your own vending machine or does someone else stock it? It's a 02:20:02.840 --> 02:20:05.560 um Do you stock it yourself? We stock it ourselves 02:20:06.200 --> 02:20:10.120 But it's through like a service so they take a fee for doing all the payment processing 02:20:10.760 --> 02:20:14.120 Um And but we put our own things in it 02:20:15.800 --> 02:20:23.480 Oh, it's a pretty reasonable subscription. So we were just like, okay Let's not like we looked into just like sourcing a vending machine on like craigslist or whatever and I was like 02:20:23.960 --> 02:20:30.600 And I forget it because the Their monthly fee is about what just like a payment processor would be anyway 02:20:30.920 --> 02:20:37.880 So because they're their own payment processor It looks like it just drops the whole way like old school vending machines. Is there any concern with that at all? No 02:20:38.680 --> 02:20:42.280 We'll just put the carbonated stuff at the bottom if we have any and like whatever 02:20:42.840 --> 02:20:48.120 Like we bought pops out of you know vending machines from here back in the day. So yeah, I assumed it would be fine 02:20:48.280 --> 02:20:54.440 Yeah, I don't know. Um, so yeah, if you guys are if you guys are local and uh, you know, yo 02:20:55.000 --> 02:20:58.840 You want updates? It's mash champs on facebook 02:20:58.920 --> 02:21:06.280 That's our pro shop. It's getting it's getting close, dude. We're probably going to be open mid september or early october 02:21:06.520 --> 02:21:09.960 Oh, yeah, yeah, have you have you been there at all? No 02:21:10.760 --> 02:21:13.720 Oh, all right. Remember the last opening date though, Dan? 02:21:14.680 --> 02:21:19.320 Oh march 2025 on wan and then he got uh march 2025 added us 02:21:19.720 --> 02:21:22.360 Do you remember do you remember that date Dan? We got custom benches 02:21:23.080 --> 02:21:29.960 Wait, did I get mad at you guys? March 2025. Oh, yeah, I don't know. I I I actually believe this one though 02:21:30.840 --> 02:21:35.640 I've seen a very detailed timeline of what needs to happen still and it's uh, it should be good. Okay 02:21:36.760 --> 02:21:46.520 No, no Dan. No, no Dan. No, it's gonna be good this time Well, no see because you it's it's been no problem for for my team at all because aj and Dan and shon have had no stress at all 02:21:46.600 --> 02:21:52.120 Trying to hit all the various Opening dates that we've had and making sure that everything is ready in time 02:21:52.440 --> 02:21:55.320 For this one opening date and then we get a new opening date 02:21:55.480 --> 02:21:59.080 And then I start getting flashbacks and trauma responses from the lab website 02:21:59.320 --> 02:22:03.160 And then we get a new opening date and the same thing just keeps happening over and over again 02:22:03.160 --> 02:22:08.120 And we like just waste time compounding more aggressively every single time over and over and over again 02:22:08.440 --> 02:22:12.600 And then we do changes to things that have already been done because they had to be done for an initial date 02:22:12.600 --> 02:22:16.600 But they weren't done perfectly because they had to be done in a rush for that first date and now we're doing it again 02:22:17.560 --> 02:22:19.720 It's gonna be good march 2025 02:22:20.840 --> 02:22:25.640 The city is um is still seeming very promising. We've exchanged some emails. So 02:22:26.440 --> 02:22:31.080 I am extremely hopeful that we are not only gonna have badminton there 02:22:31.480 --> 02:22:34.680 But that we are gonna be able to do gaming events there. I have feeling really close 02:22:34.760 --> 02:22:37.720 I have people asking me about the the lands 02:22:38.520 --> 02:22:42.920 I Answer it. Yeah 02:22:43.560 --> 02:22:49.240 I don't I don't answer with speaker. Yeah, she would know that you're on when she might it's luke's mom. Hi. I'm live on the show 02:22:49.320 --> 02:22:57.160 You're also on the show. What's up? Hi, I wanted to say congratulations to Linus for opening up the new badminton center. That's so awesome 02:22:57.320 --> 02:23:03.160 Oh, yeah, thank you very much. I mean you heard luke and Dan. It's not open yet strictly speaking 02:23:04.200 --> 02:23:08.840 so Wish us luck, but you're definitely invited to the grand opening 02:23:09.480 --> 02:23:11.480 2025 02:23:15.640 --> 02:23:20.520 Well, see we wanted to call it smash club because I thought it'd be funny kind of like fight club 02:23:20.680 --> 02:23:25.480 Except the rule number one is you're supposed to talk about it because we want your referrals 02:23:25.880 --> 02:23:28.680 And then I also thought it'd be funny because it'd be like a sex joke 02:23:30.040 --> 02:23:38.200 Want to go to smash club want to go smash Um, but then my wife my mom, I know but your mom's had sex luke 02:23:44.760 --> 02:23:48.060 I mean the evidence is right here. It's huge 02:23:54.440 --> 02:24:00.600 I'm just saying we ended up with smash champs because uh, Yvonne thought that that would probably be better 02:24:02.360 --> 02:24:04.360 It's good that you keep her around 02:24:16.520 --> 02:24:21.720 I think my brother asked this or something, but is there going to be pickleball because I don't mom you used to play pickleball, right? 02:24:22.600 --> 02:24:26.600 Yes, I do Pickleball is super fun. Um our goal 02:24:26.840 --> 02:24:31.560 So the two sides are actually separated by a wall and then we've got doors 02:24:32.360 --> 02:24:38.200 periodically spaced And the idea is that we want to offer daytime pickleball on one side 02:24:38.680 --> 02:24:42.680 So because badminton players are not expecting a ball to roll through their court 02:24:42.840 --> 02:24:47.960 Right, so we were just asking for twisted ankles if you have pickleball players and badminton players right next to each other 02:24:48.280 --> 02:24:52.520 But if we could block off one side and say hey, that's pickleball during these hours 02:24:53.080 --> 02:24:59.960 It is our goal to run pickleball We don't have a mechanism for raising and lowering the nets yet 02:25:01.000 --> 02:25:05.320 But that is absolutely an essential goal on our radar and it's something that we want to do 02:25:05.880 --> 02:25:13.960 um But we don't uh, we don't have it yet and our priority is having a functioning badminton center first. Yeah 02:25:16.760 --> 02:25:21.400 Makes sense. Thanks. Oh, sorry. Are there going to be lessons for old people? 02:25:22.600 --> 02:25:31.640 um Oh, man. See you're the second you're the second woman in either minor luke's lives to ask this in the last couple of days 02:25:32.280 --> 02:25:36.200 We had a chat with the guy that we're partnering with to run lesson programs 02:25:36.520 --> 02:25:40.280 And I believe that is locked in now. So I think I can say now 02:25:41.080 --> 02:25:47.160 It's going to be with daryl from clear one. So they're a big badminton club here locally. They've got 02:25:47.880 --> 02:25:51.960 A couple of clubs in north america actually a handful of clubs in north america now 02:25:52.920 --> 02:25:58.920 He does a really great job with his coaches. So he's got a few of his coaches that are actually based more out this way 02:25:59.720 --> 02:26:06.200 and With the number of hours that we were able to spare for him outside of our own programs 02:26:06.360 --> 02:26:11.000 He's not planning to do any adult lessons at this time. Yvonne wanted to do adult lessons 02:26:11.560 --> 02:26:16.120 So maybe if enough people inquire we'll be able to find some more court space for him 02:26:16.120 --> 02:26:21.480 But the issue is that for adult classes. He really wants those prime hours in the evening 02:26:22.520 --> 02:26:29.320 And those are the ones that we can sell for the highest rates for court bookings and also for running our own programs 02:26:29.400 --> 02:26:34.200 Like we want to do ladder like competitive ladders and stuff like that. And that's when adults are around. So 02:26:35.880 --> 02:26:40.760 Let me No, but also let's see how it goes is where we're at on that 02:26:43.400 --> 02:26:47.640 Okay, that sounds awesome. Um, I'll let you guys go congratulations again 02:26:48.040 --> 02:26:53.800 And that's really awesome. We're looking forward to checking it out. All right. Thanks for calling in. Thanks for calling mom. Bye 02:26:57.080 --> 02:27:01.560 Bent bob says smash coaching for adults. All right, so a few of those 02:27:02.440 --> 02:27:04.440 Leave me alone 02:27:09.880 --> 02:27:13.240 It's been when's the last time my mom called? I don't know. It's been a while 02:27:15.080 --> 02:27:19.080 Um All right, I never really know like 02:27:20.520 --> 02:27:25.240 When when people call me if they're calling to be on the show or if they just like didn't realize it's a friday 02:27:25.560 --> 02:27:29.800 I don't know when your mom calls like it's like probably it's it's it's either 02:27:30.600 --> 02:27:35.240 To to like talk to you on the show or it's because she knows you're on the show 02:27:35.320 --> 02:27:39.320 And something is so important that it can't wait. Yeah, so either way you kind of have to pick it up 02:27:39.400 --> 02:27:41.640 That's fair. Yeah, or you're just a bad son 02:27:42.840 --> 02:27:44.840 Yep a son of who she has 02:27:47.560 --> 02:27:54.200 Do you know that though? You don't know we're pretty sure we're sort of float playing chat was like Linus is lying. Luke was just 02:27:54.760 --> 02:27:56.760 Brought here by a large stork 02:27:57.880 --> 02:28:01.160 Really big stark. This is an extremely large giant stork 02:28:04.440 --> 02:28:09.560 Oh man Okay, where are we? What are we doing pick a different topic? Okay? 02:28:10.280 --> 02:28:13.080 Uh, all right. We just did this week in ai. All right. Yeah 02:28:13.800 --> 02:28:18.920 Um, did you do any other ones? I just spawned one day. Yeah, like an orc and like lord of the rings or something 02:28:19.240 --> 02:28:23.000 Yeah, we did a few. Um, we talked about the real page rental collusion thing 02:28:24.200 --> 02:28:28.360 I'm starting to collapse them when we finish them. Yeah, I just did that to the ai topic 02:28:28.920 --> 02:28:32.840 Um pixel watch threes and galaxy rings are unfixable 02:28:33.880 --> 02:28:37.400 According to a google representative the company will not offer repairs 02:28:38.360 --> 02:28:43.160 I really gotta stop doing that. Yeah pixel watch threes and galaxy rings are unfixable 02:28:43.320 --> 02:28:49.800 According to a google representative the company will not offer repairs for broken pixel watch threes only replacements 02:28:51.240 --> 02:28:55.960 Replacements for the three fifty dollar device are only forty nine dollars with preferred care insurance 02:28:56.120 --> 02:28:59.720 But that insurance costs ninety dollars for two years of coverage 02:29:00.280 --> 02:29:05.240 Notably both past generations of the pixel watch had durability issues, especially with the device's screen 02:29:05.240 --> 02:29:13.240 In other news iFixit has criticized samsung's new galaxy ring saying that it is unrepairable and 100 percent disposable 02:29:13.480 --> 02:29:16.200 As it can only be thrown away once the battery has died 02:29:17.000 --> 02:29:20.520 Further it is not designed to last longer than two years 02:29:21.240 --> 02:29:23.880 Ugh, all right, so 02:29:25.000 --> 02:29:31.240 Cool, you can have the right to repair it all you want, but if it's just completely unrepairable then that's not gonna help us much 02:29:32.120 --> 02:29:39.640 Meanwhile, google appears to have a widespread issue where its sales reps are openly suggesting means of subverting google's own policies 02:29:39.880 --> 02:29:48.520 To their ad buying clients In 2021 google declared that it would no longer allow ads that targeted teenagers between ages 13 to 18 02:29:48.840 --> 02:29:53.880 However, according to a report from the financial times, google staff worked on a marketing project 02:29:54.200 --> 02:29:59.160 Designed to target teenage users on youtube with ads for instagram on behalf of meta 02:29:59.800 --> 02:30:06.680 Further adweek says that three different ad buyers reported that google sales reps spontaneously suggested that they target teens 02:30:07.080 --> 02:30:13.800 Simply by choosing the unknown user category, which google knows is heavily composed of teenagers 02:30:14.280 --> 02:30:21.160 Makes sense A google spokesperson acknowledged the issue and stated the company will take measures to reinforce its policies with sales reps 02:30:21.560 --> 02:30:26.520 Okay, but that doesn't change anything Unknown is still going to be that 02:30:26.760 --> 02:30:28.760 Yeah, so it's just gonna be unspoken 02:30:30.440 --> 02:30:34.760 Yeah Discussion question why it's so hard for google and other 02:30:35.320 --> 02:30:38.920 Okay, other similar companies to consistently abide by their own policies 02:30:39.800 --> 02:30:43.880 It's so hard because they're as big as a city and you're sending mixed messages 02:30:44.280 --> 02:30:49.800 You're telling the sales reps. Hey, don't tell the clients they can do this and then you're telling the sales reps 02:30:50.280 --> 02:30:54.360 Here's your commission check for selling more Or 02:30:54.360 --> 02:30:58.200 Which one do you think is a stronger incentive here? That's a that's a very difficult thing 02:30:58.280 --> 02:31:01.160 I think for families to feed to understand is 02:31:01.800 --> 02:31:08.280 When you when you put certain things in place you might be incentivizing employees in ways that you don't necessarily realize 02:31:08.280 --> 02:31:14.360 And you need to be careful and and think of yourself in that situation and how you would gain that system that you're in 02:31:14.840 --> 02:31:22.200 Um, because I mean we're gonna do that Remember I talked about this when we went through our first two rounds of secret shopper with the pc system integrators 02:31:22.600 --> 02:31:26.280 Where I was like look del can tell their representatives all they want 02:31:27.080 --> 02:31:30.280 You know don't force this on the customer. It should be a natural sale 02:31:30.600 --> 02:31:33.640 But as long as they give them effectively no income 02:31:34.360 --> 02:31:42.520 And I don't know this for sure But it just seemed from the sales representative's behavior because you can tell a lot about what someone's incentives are based on their behavior 02:31:42.600 --> 02:31:46.200 And when you look at modern incomes, it's just like almost certainly true 02:31:46.600 --> 02:31:50.280 The amount of money that people make versus the amount of expenses they have is not adding up 02:31:50.280 --> 02:31:57.320 We don't know this for sure But what we suspect strongly based on the behavior is that they probably weren't compensated a lot unless they sold it 02:31:57.720 --> 02:32:02.440 So no wonder they sold it so hard and I'm talking about the warranties and the financing in the last round 02:32:02.520 --> 02:32:06.760 They did a fair bit better. So I don't want to harp on it anymore, but it's just 02:32:08.040 --> 02:32:12.120 Illustrative of how you can say anything you want in a training session 02:32:12.120 --> 02:32:17.640 But at the end of the day if financially you're incentivizing a behavior you're going to get that behavior 02:32:18.360 --> 02:32:22.200 Should I acknowledge how my ARM is slashed up yet? 02:32:23.160 --> 02:32:29.320 Uh Are we doing these last two topics? I don't know Dan. What are we doing because we've done two to three 02:32:29.720 --> 02:32:32.760 So, yeah, I mean that's just more like the placement of it 02:32:32.840 --> 02:32:35.960 I mean if you want we've got about 10 minutes till after dark or something like that 02:32:36.040 --> 02:32:41.000 So you've got a couple more topics here finish them off and then I don't I don't know how interesting move into free chat 02:32:41.400 --> 02:32:44.440 Neuralink second patient is dealing out headshots. That's pretty cool 02:32:44.520 --> 02:32:49.880 There's another person with Neuralink in them and it's like doing better. Yep. So good luck everybody 02:32:50.360 --> 02:32:54.840 um and Chinese rpg developer bans streamers 02:32:55.560 --> 02:33:00.760 From discussing the chinese gaming industry. Do you know about this? I do. Okay. Yeah 02:33:01.240 --> 02:33:04.280 Black myth wukong a single player action rpg 02:33:04.680 --> 02:33:09.720 Is now the fastest to hit 1 million concurrent players on steam after launching on august 20th 02:33:10.200 --> 02:33:16.120 However, the game's developer game science sparked controversy by granting some streamers early access 02:33:16.520 --> 02:33:21.080 But also sending a bizarre list of restrictions on how they could talk about the game 02:33:21.880 --> 02:33:25.160 Streamers were instructed not to include politics 02:33:25.800 --> 02:33:30.040 violence In a game about violence nudity 02:33:31.560 --> 02:33:35.480 feminist propaganda fetishization 02:33:35.480 --> 02:33:39.240 And other content that instigates negative discourse 02:33:40.120 --> 02:33:44.120 They were also told to avoid potential trigger words like 02:33:44.760 --> 02:33:47.800 quarantine isolation and 02:33:47.800 --> 02:33:50.600 COVID-19 amazing the developer also 02:33:51.240 --> 02:33:55.880 Explicitly told them not to discuss anything about china's game industry policies 02:33:56.520 --> 02:33:58.520 Like probably the ones that you were just reading 02:33:59.560 --> 02:34:03.000 Not everyone who was given early access to the game received these instructions 02:34:03.480 --> 02:34:07.960 Mainstream outlets like polygon and kotaku received far more standard review embargoes 02:34:08.840 --> 02:34:13.000 Uh discussion question is is this just a cultural gap or is something far worse going on? 02:34:13.080 --> 02:34:17.800 I mean, I think the thing that I had flagged for the team for discussion here was 02:34:18.520 --> 02:34:25.800 um I think the only difference here the only reason we're having this conversation is because the quiet part was said out loud 02:34:26.280 --> 02:34:34.360 I mean chinese Well more accurately ccp influence on western media has been 02:34:35.320 --> 02:34:39.240 rampant For many many many years at this point 02:34:39.640 --> 02:34:45.240 Um, you know any time you see a film that has any kind of chinese backing or chinese funding behind this 02:34:45.240 --> 02:34:49.480 This is straight up just uh developed in china game though. This isn't like yeah 02:34:50.040 --> 02:34:55.560 I just but it's effectively if it's if it's gaining mainstream appeal in the west 02:34:55.640 --> 02:35:01.240 It's effectively like western media. No, I just the thing that you're talking about is give me a sec though. I'll get there 02:35:01.880 --> 02:35:08.840 Basically if you see any kind of chinese funding going into uh going into a film or going into uh into a game 02:35:08.920 --> 02:35:14.440 I mean, have you noticed between the 90s and now how rarely the villains 02:35:15.240 --> 02:35:22.440 Of a film Are ethnically chinese and how often they like travel there or there's like major themes around it or something like that 02:35:22.600 --> 02:35:28.760 Yeah, and it's it's interesting because it doesn't even necessarily just have to be funding because 02:35:29.320 --> 02:35:35.720 North american companies are also finding that the chinese audiences are quite sensitive to 02:35:37.320 --> 02:35:44.920 Uh in both ways that you could grade sensitivity So they're also very positively sensitive to you know, if the heroes travel to china 02:35:45.960 --> 02:35:51.080 It's much more likely that people will go watch the film right like little things like which is not like it's a different form of 02:35:51.480 --> 02:35:57.560 It's it's still sensitivity. Anyways, um, but it's it's they're they're very reflective to like is china in a good light or a bad light 02:35:57.560 --> 02:36:00.200 and so these conversations about um 02:36:01.240 --> 02:36:06.280 Things that should or should not be included in these films are absolutely taking place 02:36:07.160 --> 02:36:13.880 In back rooms. Yeah, you know over financial deals for you know backing of the production of media pieces or whatever else 02:36:14.200 --> 02:36:21.960 The only difference here is that in this case it was entirely developed, you know in china with these sensibilities in mind and 02:36:22.920 --> 02:36:26.600 reviewers and streamers ended up with 02:36:26.600 --> 02:36:29.080 sort of the uh the same kind of 02:36:32.520 --> 02:36:39.480 Guidelines um that you might find when you're instead, you know scripting your your big budget film or whatever the case may be 02:36:40.120 --> 02:36:43.240 um So do I think this is good? 02:36:44.120 --> 02:36:47.080 No What is feminist propaganda? 02:36:47.800 --> 02:36:54.440 From the perspective of the ccp What does that mean you're wearing a pink shirt Linus? Yeah, I know right 02:36:55.160 --> 02:37:00.200 Band sure exactly. Um, you know, what what is that? Um 02:37:04.920 --> 02:37:11.640 Avoiding trigger words like isolation like if you want to tell me to avoid a trigger word like, uh, you know 02:37:12.280 --> 02:37:17.880 Child b****, okay. Sure. Let's avoid that. That is that that has you know 02:37:18.920 --> 02:37:24.040 Trauma associated with it, but no, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna ignore a trigger word like quarantine 02:37:24.120 --> 02:37:32.040 That is that's a thing that happens Um, we had to quarantine our cats if I'm gonna so that ones I think it's those ones 02:37:32.120 --> 02:37:38.600 I should say the quarantine isolation cova 19 those ones like kind of actually do make sense to me because if 02:37:40.120 --> 02:37:42.120 If people are just gonna like 02:37:43.160 --> 02:37:45.800 Spam the heck out of something when this game is playing 02:37:46.520 --> 02:37:49.400 You know the like the whole china virus thing is very likely gonna come out 02:37:49.560 --> 02:37:52.040 So I think they were just like let's not do that 02:37:52.760 --> 02:37:56.680 Though those three I kind of get it. Let's let's not talk about this for a moment 02:37:58.120 --> 02:38:02.360 Yeah, I don't know for me. I can't look at those outside of the 02:38:03.640 --> 02:38:09.880 Of all the other things that they were told not to talk about. Yeah, I hear that I'm just I'm just really isolating 02:38:09.960 --> 02:38:13.480 Just quarantine isolation cova 19 because it's like we're talking about a video game right now 02:38:13.720 --> 02:38:19.560 It's particularly stupid to me that for like I'm just a little confused by the whole thing because my understanding is a lot of 02:38:19.560 --> 02:38:22.920 Blood gets like censored in china in in chinese games 02:38:23.480 --> 02:38:28.920 And so yeah, like it makes sense that they've got this guideline to not turn it white to not talk about violence 02:38:29.240 --> 02:38:31.480 Which isn't great. Not a good decision 02:38:32.840 --> 02:38:34.840 I don't know. It could be good for some people 02:38:38.520 --> 02:38:40.520 Oh, it's everywhere 02:38:44.280 --> 02:38:46.280 What is it ghost ectoplasm 02:38:47.880 --> 02:38:52.520 Yeah for sure Yeah 02:38:53.640 --> 02:38:58.040 Sorry, I can't get dancing. Oh, it's everywhere. Yeah, that's great 02:38:59.320 --> 02:39:01.800 Anyway, yeah, that's what a lot of people say actually 02:39:04.120 --> 02:39:12.280 Anyway, shouldn't we be upset about ccp sensibilities making their way into our media and into our culture? Yes. Yeah 02:39:13.400 --> 02:39:18.840 But it's not new But that doesn't mean we shouldn't continue to be upset about it 02:39:18.920 --> 02:39:22.440 And this is why companies like 10 cent own a little bit of everything 02:39:23.800 --> 02:39:27.640 So that they have a little bit of influence into everything. Yeah 02:39:29.000 --> 02:39:31.320 All right, should we switch to oh except us by the way 02:39:32.120 --> 02:39:39.480 Yeah, absolutely No ccp ownership stake and minus media group or any of its affiliated companies. Let's go. Yeah 02:39:40.920 --> 02:39:44.360 So, yeah, um ccp cool 02:39:46.280 --> 02:39:51.960 I mean for that matter, I'm not a huge fan of um many national governments 02:39:54.280 --> 02:39:59.160 Everything sucks. Yeah Oh 02:39:59.240 --> 02:40:05.240 Yeah Linus is now banned in China I'm pretty sure Linus and I both gave up on ever going back there again a little while ago 02:40:05.560 --> 02:40:09.400 Yes, and no, I think I might be over it because it turns out the Michaels were spies. So 02:40:10.360 --> 02:40:15.800 Oh, yeah, I forgot about that. Yeah Stupid Michaels. Yeah way to go Michaels. Yeah 02:40:16.600 --> 02:40:19.800 Ridiculous all you Michaels out there ruining everything for everyone. Yeah 02:40:21.480 --> 02:40:25.160 Michaels My goodness 02:40:25.160 --> 02:40:32.200 Michael goodness All right, we're gonna talk about your ARM. Oh, I think that's an after dark topic and also after dark it. Yeah, Dan 02:40:32.280 --> 02:40:37.080 Did he already? Yeah, we're ready We're ready for after dark. Let's merge the colors 02:40:38.040 --> 02:40:40.040 So 02:40:42.360 --> 02:40:48.280 Everything has an app these days. Yeah, I know so much my phone is so slow imagine there was just a button 02:40:48.600 --> 02:40:53.080 Installing apps takes forever. I mean the thing is that I could do that, but then you'd be like now 02:40:53.080 --> 02:40:56.440 I spent time on that Well, no, I'm not saying you make a button 02:40:57.000 --> 02:41:00.600 Whatever it came with a but hey, there we go. I would have to integrate a button 02:41:00.680 --> 02:41:03.960 But yeah, I could mean I can automate all of it. Yeah, don't do that. Yeah, exactly 02:41:04.600 --> 02:41:09.320 On it done right or do you want it to have to use an app and it takes like five seconds? 02:41:11.080 --> 02:41:13.080 I'm learning how Luke works and I like it 02:41:16.680 --> 02:41:21.080 It's good. Okay cat ARM herty blood 02:41:21.560 --> 02:41:29.560 all right, so My neighbor texted me and one of her friends had a random cat show up in her shed 02:41:30.200 --> 02:41:36.360 And then a bunch more random cats came out of it and now they have a bunch of random cats 02:41:37.000 --> 02:41:39.320 And so she was like hey you guys are 02:41:40.680 --> 02:41:50.120 Like cat psychos Do you guys want any cats and I was all I was all no and then she was all this is what they look like 02:41:53.080 --> 02:41:57.800 That's rough and then I was all maybe let me talk to Yvonne 02:42:00.120 --> 02:42:03.480 So long story short, I managed to get like 02:42:04.600 --> 02:42:10.120 An urgent appointment at my I'm my vet, you know, I know someone who knows someone basically 02:42:10.280 --> 02:42:13.560 Yeah, I got I got like a next day midday appointment 02:42:14.600 --> 02:42:22.120 Because you can't just like Adopt random cats. They didn't even know how old they were so I wanted to know how old they are 02:42:22.120 --> 02:42:30.680 They're ready to be taken away from mum yet When they're out in the wild they can have feline leukemia or feline 02:42:31.160 --> 02:42:34.200 Immunodeficiency virus, which is essentially like cat aids 02:42:35.240 --> 02:42:39.320 It's it's pretty common. It's deadly. It's highly infectious and 02:42:40.120 --> 02:42:49.160 Our cats being indoor cats Do not have it and so if we introduce it into our household, they can get it even if they're immunized 02:42:49.160 --> 02:42:53.720 It's not perfect. Oh, okay. I will forward this picture to Dan 02:42:53.800 --> 02:42:58.600 Yeah, I'll send it to Dan Uh, give me one second here guys, and then I'll continue the story 02:43:01.480 --> 02:43:05.720 Mr. Best I'm gonna shamelessly steal this from top gear one two two four 02:43:05.720 --> 02:43:10.040 But is this is this the potential comeback of Linus cat tips? No, okay 02:43:12.280 --> 02:43:17.560 So anyway, I got an emergency vet appointment. We arranged with the sellers. They're not selling them 02:43:17.560 --> 02:43:21.240 They're giving them away for free because they're just like, yeah, please take these cats away 02:43:21.320 --> 02:43:26.840 They're in our shed We would like them to not be there like we're gonna we're gonna give them food and water and stuff 02:43:26.840 --> 02:43:29.400 Like we don't want them to die, but we also don't want them to stay here 02:43:32.280 --> 02:43:34.280 Okay, perfect 02:43:35.480 --> 02:43:39.480 So anyway, I was in a hurry because oh, right, right, right, right, right. So these diseases 02:43:40.120 --> 02:43:45.400 So I talked to my vet friend. I'm like, hey, so hold on. Hold on. Okay fine. Show them now. Yeah, okay. Just show them now 02:43:46.280 --> 02:43:50.920 So there's six And they are adorable 02:43:51.080 --> 02:43:55.080 Very different colors. Well, you know cats can have multiple dads in the same litter, right? 02:43:55.720 --> 02:43:59.320 No. Oh, yeah, cats are super horny. Wow. Yeah, they have orgies 02:43:59.960 --> 02:44:03.720 Um, wow. Yeah, I mean, where do you think the furries got the idea? 02:44:07.240 --> 02:44:09.240 Anywho, um 02:44:12.840 --> 02:44:16.520 They had to get it from somewhere it makes sense. Yeah, so so 02:44:17.240 --> 02:44:19.240 That's why we're offering training at smash champs 02:44:23.080 --> 02:44:30.600 Super deadly and um The the vaccine should work, but might not and so it's better if you just don't bring them into your house 02:44:31.160 --> 02:44:35.880 So I was talking to my vet friend. I was like, okay, so like can I bring the ones we want to adopt? 02:44:35.960 --> 02:44:39.640 Can I bring them into tests and she goes well, they're too little you can't take blood from them? 02:44:39.640 --> 02:44:44.440 They like don't have enough blood Which you know from dealing with birds, right? It's totally a thing 02:44:44.680 --> 02:44:50.040 But she was like, okay, but they've been with mom for the last she thinks they're probably about five weeks old 02:44:50.760 --> 02:44:55.800 So we can test mom. So we were on our way and we were in a hurry. We were gonna be late for this 02:44:56.120 --> 02:45:01.480 Like squeezed us in vet appointment and I was like, I forgot my gloves and a heavy sweater 02:45:05.800 --> 02:45:13.320 I had one shot to capture mom otherwise she was gonna like take off and I probably wasn't gonna let me anywhere near her again 02:45:14.040 --> 02:45:18.920 Um, so I was like, okay Okay, how you doing? How you doing? You seem super chill 02:45:19.000 --> 02:45:23.240 Maybe you were someone's cat at some point until you wandered off and like did this whole kitten thing 02:45:23.640 --> 02:45:29.240 Maybe I can just get you and put you in the care. Oh, oh, no. No. Okay. So basically 02:45:30.280 --> 02:45:35.240 um The inside of my bicep really bad one 02:45:35.560 --> 02:45:40.040 Um looks like that now Oh, and it's completely my fault because I knew better 02:45:40.120 --> 02:45:46.280 I was driving past my house and I was like, I should stop and I should just go get a heavy sweater and some heavy gloves because 02:45:47.320 --> 02:45:50.200 And then I just didn't want to be late. It ended up costing us more time 02:45:50.600 --> 02:45:54.680 What I ended up doing was it started like savaging me and I was like, okay, Yvonne 02:45:55.880 --> 02:46:04.680 Open the van quick quick quick open the van open the van And so I jumped in with the cat hucked the cat onto the seat and like slammed the van closed and I was like, okay 02:46:06.200 --> 02:46:09.640 You and I we need to figure this out because you need to go in that carrier 02:46:10.440 --> 02:46:13.640 Um, and I need to not have this happen to me again 02:46:13.960 --> 02:46:18.040 Actually, my ARM's not the worst part. The worst part is my hand. Oh, yeah 02:46:18.520 --> 02:46:23.640 I don't know if you can see how swollen my hand is. I was so before I saw this hand when you first walked up 02:46:23.720 --> 02:46:28.760 I saw how swollen that hand was. Yeah, I could tell so my um, it's probably not that obvious from there 02:46:29.160 --> 02:46:32.360 I mean, it might be you can yeah, so my right hand 02:46:33.000 --> 02:46:35.880 has probably about a dozen puncture wounds 02:46:36.600 --> 02:46:44.440 because I was um So is this is it is it like mostly claws on the bicep and then teeth on the hand? It's all teeth on the hand 02:46:44.760 --> 02:46:46.760 So it was like 02:46:48.520 --> 02:46:54.120 On my on my poor hand and by the time it bit me one time I was like 02:46:55.000 --> 02:47:01.320 well Yeah, I'm gonna need a tetanus shot. Yeah, so at this point 02:47:02.600 --> 02:47:07.080 What difference does it make let it keep shooting if it bites me once or bites me half 02:47:07.640 --> 02:47:10.840 In for a penny in for a pound. Let's go. Oh, man 02:47:10.920 --> 02:47:14.280 Because like I wasn't gonna catch it again, and if I couldn't test it 02:47:15.000 --> 02:47:21.080 We couldn't know if we were gonna adopt them. We couldn't like it like the whole thing was stalled. I got kids who want kitties 02:47:21.880 --> 02:47:25.480 so I wasn't gonna put it down at that point 02:47:27.320 --> 02:47:36.120 I was mad dude. I was mad They're like, did you go to the hospital? Um, I got antibiotics. Yeah, I'll say that much. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah 02:47:37.880 --> 02:47:41.800 That makes sense. That makes a lot of sense. Yep. I got antibiotics. I got a tetanus shot 02:47:42.200 --> 02:47:45.000 Uh, the vet actually gave me some antiseptic wash 02:47:45.480 --> 02:47:52.600 So conveniently I was headed to a doctor. Yeah, not a human doctor, but it turns out a lot of the stuff's the same 02:47:52.840 --> 02:47:57.560 Yeah, um, so she had like an antiseptic thing and had me like soak it for a while while I was there 02:47:57.640 --> 02:48:02.840 People said your your neck is red too, but that just more looks like sunburn or something. I'm just a red neck. Yeah 02:48:03.480 --> 02:48:06.600 I'm a red neck boy. Yeah, I don't think that scratches or anything. Yeah 02:48:07.800 --> 02:48:15.080 Um, wow, please go to the doctor for the bites. Um, don't worry. I got antibiotics buddy. We good. We good 02:48:16.200 --> 02:48:21.240 Um Yeah, well, believe it or not and I know she's not a human doctor 02:48:21.880 --> 02:48:27.800 But believe it or not my my vet friend knows a lot about you know cat bites and stuff 02:48:28.280 --> 02:48:33.480 So, um, yeah, she told me what I she told me everything I needed to do. Don't worry. Yeah, don't worry guys. I'm fine 02:48:34.200 --> 02:48:38.600 Uh, it's it's a little swollen because some of these are pretty deep. Hey, yeah 02:48:39.720 --> 02:48:47.080 This this one's pretty deep. Yeah This one's really deep because it kind of got it on the angle there and then because I'm a complete f***ing idiot 02:48:47.480 --> 02:48:49.800 Um, I went and played badminton like two hours later 02:48:50.600 --> 02:48:55.320 For like a couple hours. So man today when I woke up, I was messed up 02:48:55.640 --> 02:49:01.000 Yeah, because my body's healing I got a tetanus shot and all your muscles are and my muscles were 02:49:01.320 --> 02:49:05.160 Dude, I did like directly hampers the healing process. I did one of the hardest training sessions 02:49:05.160 --> 02:49:08.520 I've done in a while because nice. Um, my my son's, uh 02:49:10.680 --> 02:49:15.800 Club that he used to train at I set up the cameras for them and they were having issues with the cameras and I was like 02:49:15.800 --> 02:49:20.520 Well, I could come fix your cameras, but it's completely out of my way now because he's not training there for the summer 02:49:21.080 --> 02:49:28.200 Um, so tell you what? Why don't you tell me a time when I can come and like train and I'll come fix the cameras at the same time 02:49:28.440 --> 02:49:32.440 So it's like at least like, you know, at least I'm going there for a reason there 02:49:33.000 --> 02:49:35.800 Right, so I went and I trained with their like elite 02:49:36.760 --> 02:49:41.000 Kids that train and like teenagers and stuff. Cool. And I'm a lot older than them 02:49:41.480 --> 02:49:44.440 But I'm not gonna like I'm not gonna let these whipper snappers 02:49:45.320 --> 02:49:49.400 I'm not that old yet, right? So uh, see I was going pretty hard for a couple hours 02:49:49.960 --> 02:49:51.960 And I got home. I got in the bath and I'm just like 02:49:53.400 --> 02:49:56.440 It turns out that when your muscles have puncture wounds in them 02:49:57.000 --> 02:50:01.400 Because you actually use the hand a lot for for swinging the uh, the racket 02:50:01.800 --> 02:50:06.760 So when your muscles have a lot of puncture wounds in them like going really hard with them hurts a lot 02:50:07.160 --> 02:50:09.800 And it's really achy after so in case you were wondering 02:50:10.440 --> 02:50:15.720 um Crystal and Floatplane chat Linus. I respect you a lot 02:50:16.520 --> 02:50:22.120 Dot dot how many dots we got in here? Let me get a few dots in here, but oh my f***ing god 02:50:22.200 --> 02:50:29.560 That's a whole lot of dumb Yeah, brother, let's go sometimes you just got to get her done and then sometimes you also just have to play badminton 02:50:29.640 --> 02:50:32.200 It is what it is. Um, why tetanus? 02:50:32.760 --> 02:50:38.840 Puncture I haven't had one in a while I can't remember when my last tetanus shot was any time you get like a puncture wound 02:50:38.920 --> 02:50:42.680 You want to get get yourself a tetanus shot if you're if you're not up to date 02:50:43.240 --> 02:50:49.400 As for rabies, uh, I talked to the vet about it. She's basically like, okay, like yes, but also 02:50:49.960 --> 02:50:53.400 That cat would have had to be bit by a rabid bat 02:50:54.040 --> 02:50:58.200 And like it would have had to happen so recently that symptoms haven't developed 02:50:58.600 --> 02:51:02.680 And also she just gave birth to a healthy litter and has no 02:51:03.640 --> 02:51:08.520 Symptoms um because she she asked us about that and so like yeah, I don't know 02:51:09.080 --> 02:51:14.600 Make sure that you don't have rabies symptoms, but you're probably fine start foaming at the mouth. Yeah 02:51:16.120 --> 02:51:18.840 We'll take care of it. Yep. Yep 02:51:19.800 --> 02:51:24.440 I think we are officially in after dark once we're we're done responding to comments about this 02:51:24.440 --> 02:51:27.800 No, we're in after dark now. Yeah, but like I'm merch messages wise, but the thing's purple 02:51:29.000 --> 02:51:36.200 And it's brought to you by pa vpn Head to paavpn.com slash Linus man for a special deal. Luke. What are you talking about? Yeah 02:51:37.480 --> 02:51:41.000 It's after dark. Maybe I have rabies. Yeah, you could be the one with rabies 02:51:41.000 --> 02:51:48.520 I might need to go get checked. You didn't want any water earlier Well, if you bite me we can go get treated for rabies together. Oh, yeah two for one deal 02:51:49.640 --> 02:51:54.120 See look man after dark Get rekt 02:51:54.120 --> 02:51:57.000 We need a cat scratch a shirt dude 02:51:57.480 --> 02:52:03.320 Like a bloodstain dude. I was actually wearing my other one of these and it's got like blood stains all down the side of it 02:52:03.320 --> 02:52:08.920 I was bleeding pretty good as you'd probably imagine give it to fashion and have them like embroider that onto a shirt 02:52:08.920 --> 02:52:11.480 If it was like a long sleeve shirt that had the slashes 02:52:12.440 --> 02:52:15.480 It would probably look kind of sick. Oh, you'd be a hit with all the goth girls 02:52:16.120 --> 02:52:24.600 That would be sick True. Oh, man. Well, plain chat wants to know when uh, super checks is coming back. Maybe when luke stops being a 02:52:26.120 --> 02:52:31.240 I thought you were gonna say when he gets good I mean that's hey, that's an option. That's a bit of a problem as well 02:52:31.240 --> 02:52:36.600 But I I have to I have it's another medicine night for the birds. Yeah. This is the second last one 02:52:36.680 --> 02:52:39.720 I know I know tomorrow is the last day the last couple of times 02:52:39.800 --> 02:52:43.800 I beat him pretty bad and luke's mad because I started watching the tape dude 02:52:44.280 --> 02:52:47.560 It wasn't it wasn't a stream for you guys 02:52:47.640 --> 02:52:50.680 It was a ploy to allow Linus to do homework 02:52:50.680 --> 02:52:54.200 He did the thing where like, you know how like you you go to your friend's place 02:52:54.280 --> 02:52:58.760 Sweaty man on the first day that they buy smash bros and it's all fun to play together 02:52:59.000 --> 02:53:04.120 And then you come back over a month later and they've spent the whole last month just playing 02:53:04.440 --> 02:53:07.640 So they're really good and you play on this like this isn't fun anymore 02:53:07.800 --> 02:53:11.080 We had this like decent back and forth for a long time 02:53:11.400 --> 02:53:17.160 He was better than me, but I would win sometimes. It was all right, and then we played on a stream and he watched the tape and studied it 02:53:18.360 --> 02:53:23.320 I'm not gonna do that There's grass to go touch 02:53:23.320 --> 02:53:25.320 It was like so complicated 02:53:27.160 --> 02:53:29.160 He's so competent at just 02:53:30.200 --> 02:53:35.000 Learning a thing and then just destroying other people at it. No. No. See that's not the thing 02:53:35.400 --> 02:53:40.200 Usually it's this guy. I almost always beat him 02:53:40.520 --> 02:53:45.240 The first like two times we do something he picks it up and gets to a level right after that 02:53:45.400 --> 02:53:51.480 It's not even fun anymore because he absolutely slays me super checks is like the one game that I 02:53:52.600 --> 02:53:58.440 No, it's not as bad as Linus describes. He's better at this stuff than he tries to claim. It's pretty bad 02:53:58.920 --> 02:54:05.800 Dude disc jam Disc jam was my game dude. I wish that was took off a little bit 02:54:05.880 --> 02:54:11.080 Disc jam was pretty even for like maybe the first five games we played and then after that 02:54:11.800 --> 02:54:15.800 I got completely F*** like completely 02:54:16.760 --> 02:54:21.160 Like dude, I didn't even have a barrel to bend over. It was just me in the ground 02:54:23.800 --> 02:54:28.200 There was uh, we played on the the the night before your uh 02:54:30.040 --> 02:54:34.280 Yeah, why not the night before your birthday. Yeah. Yeah, we played tape to tape and you crushed 02:54:34.680 --> 02:54:41.880 Well, yeah, but you were dude. You were so disinterested. I don't think I've seen anyone that disinterested since like 02:54:42.120 --> 02:54:45.640 That game one v one does not interest me. Yvonne's usually interested 02:54:49.080 --> 02:54:57.240 Oh, that's I mean That's good. And you have no experience. You have no experience like playing single player hockey games 02:54:57.480 --> 02:55:03.640 No, and so between tape to tapes logic for uh passing player control being a little funky 02:55:03.880 --> 02:55:09.160 Throwing me off being a little funky and also me having hours and hours and it's been a while 02:55:09.400 --> 02:55:14.200 But nhlpa 93. It's been a long while nhlpa 93. It's been like 02:55:15.240 --> 02:55:17.880 Your whole life almost. Yeah, but I have like 02:55:19.080 --> 02:55:27.080 Hours and hours and hours and hours of playing like top-down view hockey game, right where like I'm it's like if if someone played 02:55:28.040 --> 02:55:32.360 250 350 hours of quake 2 02:55:33.080 --> 02:55:36.920 You know and you drop them in an FPS against someone who didn't do that as a kid 02:55:37.000 --> 02:55:43.080 Johnny is still ridiculously good at quake. Exactly like it's it it's just like it's it's natural for me 02:55:43.560 --> 02:55:47.480 Whereas like you've obviously not done that. So, um 02:55:48.680 --> 02:55:53.160 What did we play afterwards? Oh, yeah, I guess we're not really allowed to talk about that 02:55:53.240 --> 02:55:59.880 Yeah, we played that game that you're not allowed to talk about but then some writer for the verge talked about it 02:55:59.960 --> 02:56:03.800 And then people were mad. Yeah, so we played that game. We played that game 02:56:04.120 --> 02:56:10.600 Um And uh, wait, yeah, we're not allowed to you can talk about it now connor linfoot says you can talk about it now 02:56:11.080 --> 02:56:17.320 It's public now Oh, okay. Well, I don't personally enjoy it 02:56:17.960 --> 02:56:24.360 Yeah, it seems like it's it's you know, it's probably a good game. Oh, yeah, I'm sure it's a great game for 02:56:25.080 --> 02:56:29.800 Incredibly sweaty people. Yeah. Yeah, which is cool. I'm just I'm at a I'm at a 02:56:30.360 --> 02:56:36.040 You get to a point where you become an old dog at some point and new tricks. I'm not gonna learn all these champions 02:56:36.200 --> 02:56:42.920 I'm not gonna learn all these builds I'm not gonna learn where all the shops are and there's this underground thing and where that pops up and how to know if 02:56:42.920 --> 02:56:48.840 Someone's flanking you. I'm not gonna learn the best meta for exactly the right place to farm creeps or whatever else 02:56:48.840 --> 02:56:54.600 Whatever the common terminology is now for creep farming denials and yeah, like I'm 02:56:55.480 --> 02:56:58.680 I'm I'm sitting here going like I'm not gonna I'm not gonna know 02:56:59.160 --> 02:57:03.320 You know every support matchup on my team and like who should be 02:57:03.960 --> 02:57:10.360 Uh paired up in which lanes and you know when I see a particular hero on the other side calling out to my team 02:57:10.360 --> 02:57:16.760 Just which whatever like I'm I think it's worse that it's not gonna happen for like three or four months if if I was 02:57:17.640 --> 02:57:20.600 One of the most fun times to play a game is when it 02:57:21.240 --> 02:57:26.440 First hits early access or whatever and nobody has played it before. Yes, but it was very clear 02:57:26.600 --> 02:57:30.120 We jumped into I think two rounds total yeah two or three two 02:57:30.760 --> 02:57:35.800 And it was very clear that not only where there are players on the other team 02:57:36.360 --> 02:57:39.640 That had been playing this for months like 02:57:39.640 --> 02:57:47.480 months like new Everything when we were sitting here coming in knowing nothing. How do we get on the how do we jump on the rail thing? 02:57:48.280 --> 02:57:53.000 In fairness, I didn't play the tutorial so that probably doesn't help but but either way it was clear 02:57:53.000 --> 02:57:58.760 There was more of a gap than that not only that but it was very clear that our team 02:57:59.320 --> 02:58:03.640 Was getting queued up against groups of people that had been playing for months 02:58:04.040 --> 02:58:09.320 Yeah, like in both games that we played we didn't have a single lane that won and there was not a lot of 02:58:09.640 --> 02:58:13.800 Cross lane ganking going on. Yeah, like luke and I in our second game 02:58:14.120 --> 02:58:19.720 We were actually completely holding the line in the middle fine in our lane in the stat screen at the end of the game 02:58:19.720 --> 02:58:26.680 We actually won the lane by a little bit But but then just got rolled because oh, yeah, I remember looking at the stats for that 02:58:26.680 --> 02:58:33.240 Buddy who was feeding so hard We had two people that had zero kills each and both were in double digits for deaths 02:58:33.320 --> 02:58:37.960 One of them had died I think like 15 times or something one person on their team alone 02:58:38.040 --> 02:58:43.160 Just in killing blows had like around 20. I think and that guy was just untouchable 02:58:44.200 --> 02:58:49.400 It's ridiculous. I don't know and the snowballing in that game seems pretty intense from what I can tell 02:58:49.560 --> 02:58:53.080 And it's one of those things where I understand from like a like a toxic 02:58:53.640 --> 02:58:57.400 Community perspective you don't want to make it easy for people to abandon matches 02:58:57.480 --> 02:59:03.480 So you want to penalize that kind of stuff? But in that game at least the couple of rounds that we played 02:59:04.120 --> 02:59:07.800 It was so obvious within like seven minutes 02:59:07.880 --> 02:59:14.440 Oh, yeah Who was going to win and you can look at the rest of it just feels like going through the motions because once you are 02:59:14.440 --> 02:59:19.320 Leveled up a little higher you have more souls or whatever the terminology is. I don't care. I'm old 02:59:19.480 --> 02:59:25.560 I'm I'm gonna hide behind that excuse. You know once you are once you're a little a little ahead 02:59:26.600 --> 02:59:30.520 Closing the gap seems really hard because the creeps are basically 02:59:31.240 --> 02:59:37.320 Useless like they don't do any damage. The towers are also and the towers also seem pretty useless. I don't want the towers being useless 02:59:37.320 --> 02:59:44.840 That's a weird one to me And I can understand why for like a high level of competitive play like for professional play 02:59:45.400 --> 02:59:50.440 Making it very heroes versus heroes like the creeps and the towers are probably not going to be much of a factor at that level 02:59:50.440 --> 02:59:52.760 Anyway, but the towers are supposed to be area denial 02:59:53.640 --> 02:59:58.200 It's not it's supposed to it's supposed to like five minutes. Yeah. Yeah, and then they don't matter 02:59:58.280 --> 03:00:06.200 And then they just don't matter at all. But like look my only experience playing MOBAs is back when Dota was a mod for warcraft 3 03:00:06.680 --> 03:00:12.840 um, and so for me I remember early game until you're like very powerful 03:00:14.040 --> 03:00:17.560 Like going near the tower is basically a way to lose a 1v1 03:00:18.360 --> 03:00:23.640 essentially Yeah, pan bish in in full plane jet. I said you just need to play the game to learn it 03:00:23.720 --> 03:00:26.760 That's a false impression that you cannot learn it. Dota was the same 03:00:26.840 --> 03:00:31.560 It's a really complicated in the start and have a really high entrance ceiling. You're not old. You just don't have time 03:00:31.560 --> 03:00:36.840 That's what we're saying. Yeah, I don't have time his I'm old is I have other things going on in my life 03:00:36.840 --> 03:00:39.800 I'm just saying it in a really nice way other than high school and video games 03:00:40.280 --> 03:00:44.360 Um, just to be like transparent about what he's saying 03:00:44.760 --> 03:00:50.440 Um, we understand that we understand. It's the time it's like I said at the beginning. It's probably really fun 03:00:50.760 --> 03:00:54.920 It's just it's going to take investment because there's a lot of heroes out of the gate. Yeah 03:00:57.800 --> 03:01:03.000 And yeah, I do like there's this system that I didn't know about where like when you're trying to buy items 03:01:03.560 --> 03:01:06.760 I find the items in that game to be pretty bland and boring 03:01:06.840 --> 03:01:12.040 Especially with the coloring of the tiles and the the very standard icons and stuff like that right, but you can view 03:01:12.840 --> 03:01:19.000 community builds in game And they have ratings you can just take the like highest rated community build 03:01:19.560 --> 03:01:24.680 and just Use that which is that's kind of cool. That's helpful and they can have like notes on them of like 03:01:25.320 --> 03:01:28.440 Buy this if you're getting wrecked by some tank and it's like, okay, cool 03:01:30.040 --> 03:01:32.040 I think that's pretty neat, but it's still like 03:01:33.560 --> 03:01:38.040 Yeah, I don't know it'll be really good for people that spend tons of time on it 03:01:39.240 --> 03:01:42.120 Just like leak was just like do what it was all that type of stuff 03:01:42.360 --> 03:01:46.520 But I just the thing is like I when I play video games 03:01:47.320 --> 03:01:56.040 I have a I have a couple hours to jump in And then probably, you know, some child will fall and scrape their knee or something like I don't I don't have a 03:01:56.520 --> 03:02:00.200 Or like dude this week. I was technically on vacation or whatever 03:02:01.160 --> 03:02:06.200 I got called into smash champs like six times because we're getting really close to the end of construction 03:02:06.760 --> 03:02:09.880 And the lighting guys were in the flooring guys way and then the flooring guys 03:02:11.240 --> 03:02:14.360 Left like just left 03:02:15.080 --> 03:02:19.880 Which I understand because I don't even blame them, but like 03:02:20.120 --> 03:02:26.600 Then the lighting guys engineer They had to like fire their engineer because he wouldn't sign off on the thing even though they like did it 03:02:27.640 --> 03:02:32.200 Like it's fine So we had to like find a new one and then we found a new one 03:02:32.200 --> 03:02:39.960 But then he wanted them to add a whole bunch more seismic Cables and then the and then the flooring guys ended up in the way of the lighting guys because they like left 03:02:40.280 --> 03:02:44.200 And the lighting guys started going and then the lines weren't in place for them to put things 03:02:44.280 --> 03:02:47.000 So I've been dude. I've been on site probably 03:02:48.040 --> 03:02:51.160 somewhere between half a dozen and a dozen times this week just like 03:02:52.200 --> 03:02:55.480 Smoothing things over getting people to talk to each other like just 03:02:55.800 --> 03:02:59.880 Yeah, it's been really stressful 03:03:00.520 --> 03:03:07.000 Um And a bunch of people have contacted me from here as well because they need various things 03:03:07.880 --> 03:03:11.560 I've been doing ever since uh ever since about a year ago 03:03:11.640 --> 03:03:15.960 I've been doing qa for every almost every the vast majority of LTT videos 03:03:16.040 --> 03:03:19.000 And it's like I know i'm on vacation, but I think i'm still just going to do qa 03:03:19.800 --> 03:03:26.440 I've ended up catching a lot of stuff Over the last little while more stuff than should and we're working on processes and everything but 03:03:27.480 --> 03:03:33.720 Um, I was just like no, I uh, we do need to fix that. Yeah, but in the meantime 03:03:34.120 --> 03:03:39.640 I think i'm just gonna i'm gonna be a final check and things to still get through from time to time because believe it or not 03:03:39.640 --> 03:03:43.720 I'm not perfect, but yeah and things will get through to you from time to time as well 03:03:43.800 --> 03:03:46.360 But less should less should ideally 03:03:47.000 --> 03:03:51.400 So yeah, there's been a lot. There's been a lot going on this week, man. It's been it's been crazy 03:03:51.960 --> 03:03:56.200 But it really really does feel like yeah, this one fly 03:03:56.440 --> 03:04:01.240 It landed on my nose or my nose is so itchy nose driving insane. It really does feel like we are 03:04:01.880 --> 03:04:09.800 Extremely close. It's been really interesting seeing the occasional like actually not even occasional the the the pretty frequent like haters 03:04:09.960 --> 03:04:17.480 Especially on any videos about smash champs talking about how it's like the stupidest stupidest thing ever and like do people even play badminton? 03:04:17.640 --> 03:04:26.120 I'm just like you guys have no idea It's gonna the number of people that have approached us just randomly like at the kids school 03:04:26.440 --> 03:04:30.040 Just walked up and been like hey, I heard sorry. Who are you? I heard you're gonna have 03:04:31.000 --> 03:04:35.320 Dude, it's gonna be it's gonna be crazy and the facilities coming together really nice 03:04:35.320 --> 03:04:42.440 We actually have a video coming soon. Uh, Dan helped co-host it and Jake was there and a couple of the smash guys 03:04:42.760 --> 03:04:48.120 Um, sort of demoed stuff like uh, roge there is the he's the only guy who knows how to use the vending machine 03:04:48.200 --> 03:04:53.000 So i'm like, okay, roge. Uh, show us how to use the vending machine. I don't mean like how to buy something 03:04:53.960 --> 03:04:59.640 Yeah, I know I assume but like he knows how to how to like load it and and program the items and stuff 03:04:59.800 --> 03:05:07.560 it's like just Stuff I never thought about right and then uh, Jake found a system for managing all of the Android-based tvs 03:05:07.560 --> 03:05:12.600 So they're just tcl because uh, Dan ran the numbers and it was gonna cost us 03:05:12.760 --> 03:05:17.400 Oh, let me let me see if I can find it Yeah, if you could find basically he'll he'll bring it up in a sec 03:05:17.400 --> 03:05:20.200 But he was basically like yeah, so we could buy commercial displays 03:05:21.080 --> 03:05:24.680 Or we could just buy these tcl tvs from cosco 03:05:25.320 --> 03:05:30.200 And we could replace them every year for x number of years 03:05:31.000 --> 03:05:35.320 And that would be the same price. Yeah, so we bought a bunch of tcl tvs from cosco 03:05:35.320 --> 03:05:42.040 And then uh, we're side loading this like management app on them and Jake got it. Um, Jake got it playing crab rave 03:05:43.000 --> 03:05:47.720 Across all of the ones in the concession area Uh, when he was like goofing around with the cms 03:05:48.360 --> 03:05:53.480 So that's in the video We're gonna have a full video on the audio setup just because 03:05:54.120 --> 03:06:00.200 We talked about the audio setup with dante in one of the earlier updates and you guys were all like 03:06:01.320 --> 03:06:07.080 Don't do it like that. And so Dan has put a ton of work into reconfiguring and then 03:06:07.800 --> 03:06:14.120 um And then making some changes to the space to allow it to be like an actual like 03:06:15.480 --> 03:06:20.360 Butt thumper of an audio setup like we're not gonna have subwoofers or anything like that 03:06:20.920 --> 03:06:25.800 Uh, but it's gonna it's gonna cut if we do a lan and we decide to put on some music for like 03:06:26.440 --> 03:06:30.120 You know a floor game or something like that. I think we can get it going pretty easy in there 03:06:30.440 --> 03:06:36.040 Like i'm i'm kind of excited. They're not big. They're not powerful, but there's a lot of speakers 03:06:36.440 --> 03:06:39.400 Like on the one side down, there's what like 10 speakers or something like that 03:06:39.640 --> 03:06:41.800 Um, we think four seven eight 03:06:42.680 --> 03:06:48.200 12 13 speakers aside. Yeah, which is like it's a big space. It's like 20,000 square feet 03:06:48.360 --> 03:06:54.200 But that's a lot of speaker too and a lot of small speakers can actually have a pretty good effect 03:06:54.760 --> 03:07:00.040 Um, so i'm yeah, i'm dude. I'm excited. It was $18,500 in tv 03:07:00.120 --> 03:07:03.320 So you could replace every single tv in the building every year for five years 03:07:03.960 --> 03:07:08.040 Yeah, that's ridiculous to be fair. They are professional level tv 03:07:08.120 --> 03:07:14.840 So they would last 30 years Sure, maybe one of them breaks. You're not even gonna want it now. You're out of uh, yeah, you don't want it for 03:07:15.400 --> 03:07:19.160 You're not gonna want the same tv for that long exactly. Yeah, exactly 03:07:19.400 --> 03:07:25.560 And and if one of those tcl's breaks in four years We can rip them all down sell all the ones that aren't working anymore 03:07:25.880 --> 03:07:31.400 Get all new ones and they'll be new or the thing is say somebody breaks one of them, right? It falls off the wall 03:07:31.960 --> 03:07:34.440 You go to costco. You have a new tv in an hour 03:07:35.000 --> 03:07:40.360 A four week lead time from from some professional company, right? Yeah, so 03:07:41.640 --> 03:07:46.440 Maybe we'll regret it at some point when our tv's are dying left and right or whatever else or you know, maybe we won't 03:07:46.440 --> 03:07:50.520 We'll see how it goes like it's yeah, most tv's are fine. I don't know 03:07:51.080 --> 03:07:56.840 Yeah, exactly must they die. I mean you saw ratings this thing finding all the the tv's that were 03:07:57.240 --> 03:08:00.600 Burning out at the bottom. Maybe we'll run them. We'll run them not too bright actually 03:08:01.160 --> 03:08:07.960 Dan, can you make a note for the team to set them pretty dim? Yeah, actually, that's probably an idea ratings. Yeah 03:08:08.760 --> 03:08:10.760 okay 03:08:11.800 --> 03:08:14.840 All right, what else what else we got today we got some we got some merch 03:08:15.240 --> 03:08:21.480 Merch massages. Heck yeah, let's do it merch merch. Merch. Merch. Merch. Oh, wait. Did I say which kitties we're getting? 03:08:22.360 --> 03:08:26.520 What I don't know the one with the rabies or not. I think we just assumed it was all of them 03:08:27.640 --> 03:08:32.840 No, we're taking two Where are the kitties? They're going there we go. They're in the dock. Okay, so 03:08:34.440 --> 03:08:40.680 We're taking not this one one of the orange ones. He's a sweetheart. He's really adventurous 03:08:40.920 --> 03:08:47.480 So when we went over there, he like came out and was Poking around and coming to see us and when we pick him up. He's like not shaking or anything 03:08:47.480 --> 03:08:51.480 Just totally fearless. Um quite a character and then I think we're going to take this guy 03:08:51.720 --> 03:08:57.160 How do you think your currently existing cats are going to react to this? Um, I mean dash is probably going to be a little 03:08:57.240 --> 03:09:03.640 Picked off more. Um, I've already dealing with yeah too many noodle kind of does his own thing 03:09:03.720 --> 03:09:10.280 So I think he Like might not even notice that much and then brownie is just I mean he's like 03:09:11.000 --> 03:09:14.920 He gives zero fs about anything like when we introduced 03:09:15.880 --> 03:09:19.400 The boys to dash when we when we rescued them from the yard 03:09:19.880 --> 03:09:23.080 um Like dash was all like 03:09:23.080 --> 03:09:25.400 You know doing cat stuff and he's just like 03:09:27.160 --> 03:09:30.200 Oh, I want to be friends or like are we friends now? Like he just 03:09:30.920 --> 03:09:34.520 Completely oblivious to her signals that she was not interested in being friends 03:09:36.040 --> 03:09:39.160 That's what so yeah, she just doesn't care. Yeah, we're gonna have five cats 03:09:41.240 --> 03:09:45.640 That's a lot Oh my goodness 03:09:45.640 --> 03:09:50.280 And then bringing these guys on as a pair. They'll have each other at the very least so it should be fine 03:09:50.280 --> 03:09:54.040 Litter mates do tend to 03:09:54.840 --> 03:10:03.160 Hang together As they as they grow up together like if they if they stay together. So we we would I wouldn't say never but we would 03:10:03.480 --> 03:10:11.560 um We wouldn't prefer to like take one cat at a time if we can avoid it. It makes sense bring a buddy 03:10:11.720 --> 03:10:13.720 You 03:10:15.240 --> 03:10:19.800 Merch massage sure This one's actually for you luke 03:10:19.800 --> 03:10:22.040 That's final fantasy six coming. Yeah luke 03:10:23.160 --> 03:10:26.840 You know, I know but I want them to I played last night 03:10:28.360 --> 03:10:34.360 I needed a break So I jumped on the vigima game and it was actually really fun. I did the opera scene 03:10:35.080 --> 03:10:40.440 and it was I was very surprised because I expected it to 03:10:41.160 --> 03:10:45.000 Not be an actual opera and then I had to play an opera 03:10:45.720 --> 03:10:49.560 Um, when when uh, what's his name? Oh, I don't I don't remember his name 03:10:49.560 --> 03:10:54.280 But when what's his name is like you should probably read the thing again before you go up on stage. I was like, uh-oh 03:10:55.880 --> 03:10:58.440 Sensor set sir. Oh, did they change the name? 03:10:59.080 --> 03:11:04.200 No, his name is set sir, but that's not the person who says this line. Oh, does he not say? Oh, it's lock. Yeah, that's lock 03:11:04.840 --> 03:11:09.000 lock whatever That was all of that was way too similar 03:11:09.080 --> 03:11:13.720 Um, lock is like, yeah, you need to like read the thing for the play before you go up 03:11:14.040 --> 03:11:17.800 And I was like, oh, okay. I like sort of got it. I don't know. Am I actually supposed to remember this? 03:11:17.800 --> 03:11:21.720 And then I got like booed off stage because I got it wrong and I was like, really? 03:11:23.160 --> 03:11:26.760 Actually I had to go to it again 03:11:27.000 --> 03:11:31.880 And I made it the second time but like dang And now I serious business. Yeah 03:11:33.480 --> 03:11:36.840 And it it takes it seriously and you like have to get it right 03:11:37.160 --> 03:11:40.840 But it feels appropriate because the scene is like really good 03:11:41.560 --> 03:11:47.720 And the song's actually like pretty good and the singing is pretty good and everything's like wow, this is actually like kind of nice 03:11:48.520 --> 03:11:51.640 So I like do want to do it justice. It doesn't even feel tedious 03:11:52.040 --> 03:11:58.920 Um, so that was kind of cool And then you know got the airship and we're over on the other place and then I looked through the town that's there 03:11:59.000 --> 03:12:03.160 That's like under occupation and stuff and then that was about all that I got done and saved it 03:12:03.240 --> 03:12:09.080 So I'm out of the like weird everybody lies town. Yeah, that's where I that's where I started in that session 03:12:09.240 --> 03:12:13.960 Yeah, finished that place got to the opera finished the opera now. I'm in the next place 03:12:13.960 --> 03:12:17.400 I have no idea how far into the game. I am I feel like I've played it a ton 03:12:17.400 --> 03:12:21.720 But I feel like I'm like probably not that far. It's a great game. It's yeah 03:12:22.040 --> 03:12:28.040 It's my favorite final fantasy every time I load it up. I have a good time every single part of the game has been good 03:12:28.040 --> 03:12:31.640 There's been parts that I don't like as much as other parts, but they've all been at least good 03:12:32.440 --> 03:12:39.000 It's pretty solid I would be interested to hear your take because you're playing he's playing the pixel remaster 03:12:39.560 --> 03:12:42.840 So the opera scene is completely 03:12:43.720 --> 03:12:50.600 Redone uh compared to the original snes version. Oh, so this is what it looks like on the super nintendo 03:12:51.800 --> 03:12:59.240 Um I don't need audio for this Dan. Okay. Yeah, this is just gameplay. Um, so 03:13:00.200 --> 03:13:03.320 Blah blah blah. It's pretty this looks 03:13:04.840 --> 03:13:07.720 It's pretty basic. There's no there's no singing 03:13:08.440 --> 03:13:14.200 Um, oh really? Yeah, they did they they did they did a really incredible job of the 03:13:14.920 --> 03:13:17.720 Particularly remastering the opera scene because it's such a famous 03:13:18.360 --> 03:13:23.640 Part of this game. It's such a beloved part of this game. Um, I've heard they did a great job 03:13:24.360 --> 03:13:29.000 For me, I mean, it's honestly like this is this is cool the pixel remake one's better 03:13:29.160 --> 03:13:34.600 This will always be the version I played totally. Totally. Um, I respect that and so, you know 03:13:34.600 --> 03:13:38.280 I think it'd be hard for me to have you seen the pixel remake. I have it's really cool 03:13:38.760 --> 03:13:47.080 It would be hard for me to enjoy that And I as much I already said it, but I I respect that I've never played the game before so like looking at this 03:13:47.160 --> 03:13:53.320 Yeah, I prefer the one that I just did I think For you to go back and try to play the original snes version would be hard 03:13:53.720 --> 03:13:56.920 Probably I think you'd be I don't think it would be that hard 03:13:57.960 --> 03:14:05.480 It's not that dramatically different It's different, but like I mean this part it's like basically the same 03:14:06.440 --> 03:14:13.320 I mean, this is dancing Yeah, that's just how it looks in the pixel remaster though other than the clipping through the model 03:14:13.800 --> 03:14:20.440 It's basically the same thing. Okay, like they don't they don't try to make it look like not a snes game to be honest 03:14:21.000 --> 03:14:25.320 They they try to stay pretty true to form like where's the it's like it's a it's a fancy snes game 03:14:25.320 --> 03:14:31.320 There's the stage parts though The stage parts look so much better in the pixel remaster the part of you that makes sense because I remember 03:14:31.960 --> 03:14:35.640 Looking and noticing the like 3d-ness of the stage and my brain was like wow 03:14:35.640 --> 03:14:41.000 I can't believe they did this back then and then I realized that they probably didn't like dude. This looks 03:14:41.960 --> 03:14:46.920 Night and oh, yeah, it's it's better. But like I don't know I I don't mind the old snes graphics 03:14:47.400 --> 03:14:49.400 But I do I prefer this one 03:14:50.680 --> 03:14:53.880 This part is is probably the most dramatic difference 03:14:54.280 --> 03:14:59.800 Not even just because of the the torches like this is like this looks great stuff is really nice 03:15:00.760 --> 03:15:05.640 And there is actually singing and it's like really good. But yeah, wait, there's no singing dancing. It's like 03:15:07.720 --> 03:15:17.000 Like I mean that is what she sounds like Yeah, so they actually played pretty if that's the tone they've stayed pretty true to form without sound go to the go to the dancing part though 03:15:17.720 --> 03:15:19.720 Like they didn't like 03:15:23.400 --> 03:15:30.120 Where's he at? Oh, no, hold on. They don't show the any he's skimming on his own computer. Yeah, sorry guys 03:15:30.520 --> 03:15:35.000 I don't see uh, I don't see any dancing. It really brings out the feeling from the original one 03:15:35.240 --> 03:15:43.000 Yeah, like they that it doesn't If I saw both scenes I wouldn't be like oh my god. It's completely different. It's it's definitely different 03:15:43.880 --> 03:15:47.560 Like yeah, I don't that looks a little more like dancing than the other one 03:15:47.880 --> 03:15:52.760 Sure, but they're still just sort of like circling around each other and stuff and then he turns into flowers. Yeah 03:15:54.040 --> 03:15:58.600 I thought it was a flesh orb I was very concerned 03:15:58.600 --> 03:16:06.280 Of course turned into a ball of meat Of course, yeah, this wasn't gameplay. This was an art thing and so I immediately realized that that didn't make any sense 03:16:06.680 --> 03:16:10.360 But yeah, it's it's one of those things where I think I've told you mine. She murdered him 03:16:10.360 --> 03:16:16.520 You know My new barometer for how well something holds up is trying to enjoy it through my kids 03:16:18.360 --> 03:16:21.800 And so, you know austrian powers terrible 03:16:22.440 --> 03:16:26.040 Yep, they did not enjoy it at all 03:16:26.040 --> 03:16:30.760 between the just kind of like the crudeness of it the 03:16:31.560 --> 03:16:34.360 The way that culturally we've like moved on 03:16:35.160 --> 03:16:41.240 and how like A lot of the humor is so reliant on 90s pop culture 03:16:41.960 --> 03:16:50.360 like just nothing Whereas like some of my other sort of beloved childhood crappy movies like, you know happy gilmore 03:16:51.080 --> 03:16:54.760 major pain They've held up a lot better 03:16:54.760 --> 03:16:58.520 Like I through my my, you know preteen son 03:16:59.080 --> 03:17:04.840 I can you know enjoy it because a lot of enjoying a movie especially like a like a you know bad movie like a b movie 03:17:05.240 --> 03:17:10.360 A lot of it is the crowd the group like enjoying it together, right? For sure 03:17:13.560 --> 03:17:17.560 I don't think he would be able to easily enjoy the original version 03:17:18.120 --> 03:17:23.480 Compared to how gorgeous the the remaster looks. Oh, but if he never sees the remaster 03:17:25.400 --> 03:17:31.080 Because like I I'm wondering if this is because I just remember and like snes graphics or if it's actually fun 03:17:31.080 --> 03:17:38.440 I think that's because I never played it But I remember and enjoy like rpg maker and snes style graphics. I don't mind those 03:17:38.600 --> 03:17:41.160 I'm gonna have to make you play nine next 03:17:41.640 --> 03:17:47.160 Yeah, sure nine is almost it So I don't know if you guys the the background here is he's only ever played final fantasy eight 03:17:47.800 --> 03:17:52.280 Which is like, oh my god, if you're a game squall dude gunblades, dude 03:17:52.360 --> 03:17:56.360 I made it like let's go. I made it like an hour in and I was like this is garbage 03:17:56.760 --> 03:18:01.720 I'm done right at the beginning dueling his friend. Yeah, I couldn't friend becomes a great enemy within the game 03:18:01.880 --> 03:18:04.920 I couldn't even imagine you could shoot bullets out of your sword 03:18:05.720 --> 03:18:11.400 Dude, people were man. So sick my I don't know why but my like my final fantasy takes are either like 03:18:11.960 --> 03:18:15.240 Yeah, brother or like heresy 03:18:15.240 --> 03:18:20.840 All I said all I said in a previous video was that final fantasy seven was overrated and someone 03:18:21.400 --> 03:18:25.320 Launched into me of course with like about how wrong I was and I was like right 03:18:25.960 --> 03:18:30.360 But you putting it on this pedestal is exactly my point 03:18:30.760 --> 03:18:36.120 I didn't say it wasn't revolutionary I didn't say that it wasn't good next time you write something that long 03:18:36.280 --> 03:18:41.000 Go outside and stand in the grass for at least five minutes and then see if you still feel that way 03:18:41.000 --> 03:18:45.240 I said it was overrated That's all I said and it's 03:18:45.800 --> 03:18:51.080 Almost certainly is considering the amount of people it's reasons for being overrated make a lot of sense 03:18:51.160 --> 03:18:53.400 It was the first one that was 03:18:54.360 --> 03:19:00.120 A breakout hit in north america So that's a big part of it another big part of it 03:19:00.440 --> 03:19:08.120 Was that it was for one of the best-selling consoles of all time a ton of a ton of people played for a ton of people 03:19:09.240 --> 03:19:12.600 For a ton of people it was their first exposure to the series 03:19:12.840 --> 03:19:17.880 So there's your three factors the nostalgia factor the fact that it was sold so well 03:19:18.120 --> 03:19:21.000 Because it was for one of the best-selling consoles of all time 03:19:21.400 --> 03:19:24.760 And the fact that it was the first one to be a real breakout hit in north america 03:19:25.480 --> 03:19:34.840 The one and three are kind of related But that's why people are so so into it and so you go back and play it dude the plot sucks 03:19:35.560 --> 03:19:38.600 You basically just go to the point where like 03:19:39.160 --> 03:19:43.720 We think he might be there or whatever and then he's not and then you just like do it again 03:19:43.720 --> 03:19:47.560 And then you do it again. You're just like chasing sephiroth around for 60 hours. Yeah 03:19:49.080 --> 03:19:52.120 Yeah, essentially. Yeah, it's a it's a mario plot 03:19:52.680 --> 03:19:54.680 Um, and it's it's freaking 03:19:55.880 --> 03:20:02.280 Boring, I'm sorry But it was it was also a great time for that type of plot because it was super emo, wasn't it? 03:20:02.360 --> 03:20:09.640 Yeah An emo culture was huge But a big part of the reason that I didn't like it that much was because I had just played six 03:20:10.680 --> 03:20:16.920 And so I was like, oh, okay. Well setting in six is good. It's really good. But did it have blitz ball? 03:20:18.040 --> 03:20:25.560 No Worst ff I did like he's gonna come over here and strangle me. Okay, maybe not 10. No, I like 10 but when 03:20:26.120 --> 03:20:35.240 But 10 gets a little That's when things start going off the rails a little bit plot wise like it's like, uh, I don't know no spoilers or anything 03:20:35.320 --> 03:20:38.520 but like Yeah, what is happening in that entire game? 03:20:38.840 --> 03:20:43.400 What even so so like the whole time so you're alive, but then 03:20:44.360 --> 03:20:47.560 you what but the 03:20:48.200 --> 03:20:51.720 But the time is what year is it like it's what you've been talking about 03:20:52.440 --> 03:20:57.000 I don't know man up next merch message number two of 15 gun blades are objectively cool 03:20:57.480 --> 03:21:03.160 You're just wrong. They're stupid. Final Fantasy 8 was great. You don't need a sword if you have a gun 03:21:03.240 --> 03:21:06.840 It's the worst part of both of them. It's a revolver. What if you run out of ammo? 03:21:07.240 --> 03:21:11.800 But you don't throw it and why not have a sword as well someone at the same time 03:21:11.800 --> 03:21:15.480 How do you support it in this universe someone can live through many blows? 03:21:15.560 --> 03:21:22.200 What if you could just hit them twice get a bigger one time with larger magazines anyway, sword six and nine 03:21:23.080 --> 03:21:25.080 And then just play chain decos 03:21:26.600 --> 03:21:32.440 Like they don't even bother with other final fantasy. Do I wait until nine gets its own pixel remaster or is it even 03:21:33.240 --> 03:21:38.920 It's got a pc version. You know what there's a pc version. That's honestly hold on. Where's that upscale mod? 03:21:39.720 --> 03:21:43.720 I'm on final fantasy Nine 03:21:43.720 --> 03:21:48.440 How long until we have real-time ai upscales for these games the final fantasy nine ups? 03:21:48.440 --> 03:21:57.960 Yeah, this was recent August 14th So a week ago the final fantasy nine upscale mod got a surprise update after three years including a full rework of the backgrounds 03:21:58.040 --> 03:22:05.640 120 FPS ultra wide and Yo, that's awesome. That is awesome. I love seeing that this fly is going to be the bane of my existence 03:22:05.960 --> 03:22:12.920 Okay, it's been bothering me too Yeah, let's have a look here. So where's that does anyone have any pre and post? 03:22:13.800 --> 03:22:19.720 Play them all I do. I don't have that looks pretty good for a playstation one game. Yeah 03:22:20.360 --> 03:22:24.600 Yeah, that is uh PC gamer keep up to date. Yeah, thank you 03:22:26.360 --> 03:22:28.840 Many visual bug fixes. What else we got here? Wow 03:22:29.720 --> 03:22:34.040 Dang Wow 03:22:34.200 --> 03:22:40.840 Yeah, I would say the pc version with the maguri mod looks like a pretty strong candidate. Yeah, why not? So there's some different 03:22:41.000 --> 03:22:47.320 um Not sprites, but for the uh, yeah. Yeah characters. There's some kind of different styles that you can use 03:22:48.680 --> 03:22:52.200 And what's nice about playing the pc version is it has some quality of life stuff 03:22:52.280 --> 03:22:57.960 Like you can just if you're done grinding a stupid boss. You can just be like, okay every attack does 03:22:58.520 --> 03:23:02.200 9999 damage I don't think you would probably prefer to cheese it like that 03:23:02.280 --> 03:23:08.520 But that is a cool feature. You can also like walk at double speed, which was not available in the original playstation one version 03:23:08.520 --> 03:23:13.080 Yeah, it's pretty nice. I'm not having that problem in six actually things don't really feel that far away 03:23:13.160 --> 03:23:21.320 Well, just equip your sprint shoes and then you're good Although it is a waste of an item of a relic slot which I always found really frustrating one of my eight relic slots 03:23:21.320 --> 03:23:25.080 That I get to carry if I want to not walk at a snail's pace everywhere 03:23:25.240 --> 03:23:28.840 Do you use sprint shoes? I just walk at the snail's pace because I don't want to give up the advantage 03:23:29.800 --> 03:23:35.480 But things aren't that far Yeah, I guess the travel distance actually hasn't really been that big of a 03:23:35.880 --> 03:23:42.200 Oh, man. I mean Dan, I need to pull so far in the game. I need to pull final fantasy six equip sprint shoes or don't 03:23:43.720 --> 03:23:51.000 Are they still called sprint shoes in the pixel remaster like I'm talking old translation because I don't because running shoes and sprint shoes are not the same thing 03:23:51.000 --> 03:23:56.040 Oh Running in the original translation running shoes are 03:23:56.760 --> 03:24:00.760 Perpetual haste and sprint shoes just make you walk faster on the overworld. So 03:24:03.720 --> 03:24:08.600 Yeah, Dan's gonna work on a poll for the Floatplane audience in the meantime. Why don't we do a quick merge message here? 03:24:09.080 --> 03:24:14.680 Okay balls up Uh, hi lld as a main why can't I see this poll? 03:24:15.640 --> 03:24:20.280 Am I is it something to do with did I do it wrong? No, I'm sure you did it, right? I just I don't see it 03:24:20.360 --> 03:24:22.440 Is there I don't see it on mine either refresh 03:24:23.560 --> 03:24:25.560 I can see it on this one. It refreshed the page 03:24:26.760 --> 03:24:29.800 Oh, it appeared when I refreshed. Oh, okay. Well, I'll refresh the page 03:24:31.400 --> 03:24:34.840 Cool, I see it now. Oh, I wonder if that's a bug because I don't think that used to be a thing 03:24:35.160 --> 03:24:39.880 Open a ticket. I mean, sorry. Sorry reflex. Probably not gonna fix it right now 03:24:40.040 --> 03:24:46.280 cool, because The live section of the site that I'm so so happy we made 03:24:46.360 --> 03:24:54.120 Um needs to receive Basically more work than anywhere else despite it being the thing that we use the least 03:24:54.360 --> 03:25:02.040 Which is awesome. So sometimes I don't actually want us to just only ever work on features for the the live stream 03:25:02.200 --> 03:25:07.960 Nice, and sometimes we need to work on other things. It's kind of I know a little weird. Leave it alone. But that's fine 03:25:08.360 --> 03:25:16.920 Uh, apparently this is very controversial though 56% say sprint shoes. There are many games 44 say barefoot 03:25:17.080 --> 03:25:22.840 There are many many games where I have taken disadvantages in order to move faster because it's boring and annoying 03:25:23.160 --> 03:25:26.360 I have not had that problem so far in six because everything's pretty close 03:25:26.680 --> 03:25:30.200 My problem has never been I need to get there quicker because oh my god 03:25:30.360 --> 03:25:35.160 This this is taking a long time. It has fairly often been where the heck am I supposed to go? Hmm? 03:25:35.640 --> 03:25:41.720 That's an old game. Yeah, there's no Yeah, and I don't want to look up guides and stuff. Yeah, so I'm actually just like, you know 03:25:42.040 --> 03:25:49.240 Okay, I have no idea what I'm supposed to do But I'm in this village. So I guess I'll just talk to everyone like I'm doing that 03:25:49.960 --> 03:25:53.080 Yeah, which is how I would have played the game. So I'm trying to do it old school 03:25:53.960 --> 03:25:59.080 But when you I'm doing that like it's it's four steps to the next person. Yeah, I don't really care 03:25:59.560 --> 03:26:04.200 It's it doesn't feel like travel distance is actually a problem at least not yet. Maybe it becomes one 03:26:04.440 --> 03:26:07.800 It might affect you a little bit later. Yeah, yeah, I don't feel like I'm there yet 03:26:08.920 --> 03:26:12.760 Shrug I don't know what we're voting on. I just picked have you played the game more than once 03:26:13.240 --> 03:26:17.240 Oh, yeah, that might also be part of it. I've never seen any of this before I've played 03:26:17.640 --> 03:26:21.240 I've played the world of balance probably like 10 times 03:26:21.960 --> 03:26:26.280 And I finished the game two or three times so like 03:26:26.280 --> 03:26:33.880 Take that for what it is. You're also seeing these areas for like the 10th time. Yeah, they're still awesome. Yeah, but I've never seen them 03:26:33.960 --> 03:26:36.680 I'm just exploring through it. Like if I go play morrowind. I'm not 03:26:37.240 --> 03:26:41.320 Taking my time. Yeah, 40 bottles of scooma and you're right at the end 03:26:43.640 --> 03:26:49.880 Scroll of whatever the I love the uncapped. Yeah, uncapped maximums in that game. Oh, I have 03:26:50.440 --> 03:26:52.920 A philosophical question for you. Got it 03:26:53.880 --> 03:26:59.240 What is the right thing to do as someone who has never played skyrim? Okay 03:26:59.960 --> 03:27:04.840 But who has played oblivion if I don't get around hold on hold on if I don't get around 03:27:05.560 --> 03:27:12.040 to Doing either of those things until the sky oblivion mod is out 03:27:13.960 --> 03:27:19.560 You gotta let me finish the question for the people Luke. I'm just I'm so confident. I didn't I didn't hear what Luke said 03:27:19.560 --> 03:27:27.480 Anyway, yeah, exactly. Okay. So if the sky oblivion mod comes out, which is oblivion remade in the skyrim engine 03:27:28.360 --> 03:27:32.280 Which game should I play? He's in a pop. I've played oblivion 03:27:33.000 --> 03:27:36.120 Back when it came out. I have never played skyrim 03:27:36.760 --> 03:27:42.120 Which game should I play the completely new game skyrim in the skyrim engine or the game? 03:27:42.200 --> 03:27:44.520 I've already played in the skyrim engine 03:27:45.480 --> 03:27:52.280 sky oblivion Why because there are changes that have been made not just aesthetic ones. They're not major 03:27:52.840 --> 03:27:56.440 But they have made changes. It's also been a really long time 03:27:56.840 --> 03:28:01.640 And I think even just viewing the technical feat that is 03:28:02.200 --> 03:28:06.040 What they have done by making sky oblivion is going to be enough 03:28:06.440 --> 03:28:10.440 It's not just a pixel remaster where they've changed, you know 03:28:11.800 --> 03:28:15.960 Maybe the opera scene like looks a little bit different and stuff. They've even changed certain items 03:28:16.280 --> 03:28:20.520 Not to break the game or anything, but they've noticed like oh this quest reward is just like 03:28:20.920 --> 03:28:29.800 Uh, it's not that interesting So they like made it better. Okay. They fixed certain quests. They like did but I've already played oblivion essentially 03:28:30.040 --> 03:28:34.520 Yeah, but this is like oblivion Better, but I've never played skyrim 03:28:35.240 --> 03:28:41.000 And isn't that kind of a cultural, you know, game or game? Yeah, like have you played half life too? 03:28:41.240 --> 03:28:44.920 All of the reasons why you said fall of fantasy 7 was overrated 03:28:45.320 --> 03:28:53.400 All of them apply and probably more to skyrim. You think so You don't think oblivion was the one that went mainstream because I don't I don't know like was oblivion available on console 03:28:53.720 --> 03:28:57.240 Oh, yeah, but more win was Okay 03:28:57.240 --> 03:29:02.680 It's id right like it's it's the it's the same pedigree is id. They've been around forever 03:29:03.160 --> 03:29:07.720 Um parent company thing going on. Yeah, that's its own thing, but still, um 03:29:09.400 --> 03:29:11.400 What about skywind skywind is? 03:29:12.440 --> 03:29:18.040 Not getting as much attention as Um sky oblivion is so I don't know if it's gonna come 03:29:18.280 --> 03:29:21.960 Like the reason why we're talking about sky oblivion is because sky oblivion is coming out next year 03:29:22.440 --> 03:29:27.240 And is getting like like next year is not that far away now and it's looking real notice. It's looking real 03:29:27.800 --> 03:29:32.360 It's looking real good. It's coming out next year and there's lots of updates coming. It's hitting fast 03:29:32.440 --> 03:29:38.040 I actually believe they're gonna launch next year. They still need help if you want to go apply to help volunteer fantastic 03:29:38.440 --> 03:29:43.640 um But yeah, there's I would play that one. I I think 03:29:44.680 --> 03:29:51.960 I Know a lot of people really love skyrim. I think if skyrim is the first elder scrolls game that you play 03:29:53.480 --> 03:29:57.480 That's awesome. Right. Enjoy it. I'm really happy. You had a great time 03:29:57.960 --> 03:30:01.080 If you come from oblivion or morrowind, I think you're gonna be disappointed 03:30:01.960 --> 03:30:04.200 I think the thing with skyrim was 03:30:05.480 --> 03:30:11.480 I I don't actually think that I know anyone that played like morrowind and oblivion that is like skyrim's great 03:30:12.360 --> 03:30:15.720 Literally anyone. Yeah, I was gonna. I was gonna say yeah 03:30:16.040 --> 03:30:20.280 Because skyrim was so popular it was but it was popular with people that have never played those games before 03:30:20.440 --> 03:30:27.080 Yeah, it's like the most Every every single game that they make gets a little bit more cut down and a little bit more mainstream 03:30:27.640 --> 03:30:30.840 and a little less patrick stewart and you know 03:30:32.360 --> 03:30:34.360 Yeah, I was blown away when I was like 03:30:36.200 --> 03:30:42.440 Yeah, I know right every time I think what they should do is they should remake skyrim in the oblivion engine 03:30:45.160 --> 03:30:49.720 I don't know the oblivion engine is pretty janky all of their engines are pretty janky 03:30:49.800 --> 03:30:55.080 But yeah, I'm excited to see what the next one's gonna bring and if that's just starfield in a forest 03:30:55.080 --> 03:31:02.760 Then i'm gonna be very sad. Oh a little less patrick stewart getting a 90 page bible for his character that dies in the tutorial 03:31:03.240 --> 03:31:06.360 I absolutely Love that. Yeah 03:31:07.080 --> 03:31:12.360 I don't know if it's ever been corroborated, but i'm gonna just believe that forever. Yeah, me too. It's just part of who I am 03:31:12.760 --> 03:31:15.560 Okay, well fine. I guess it'll be sky oblivion then 03:31:16.600 --> 03:31:18.920 Nice. Yeah, based. Yeah, good choice 03:31:21.240 --> 03:31:25.320 Okay, it's like yeah, I even felt that way and because Dan just kind of echoed this 03:31:25.560 --> 03:31:28.200 I felt that way going from more wind to oblivion 03:31:28.760 --> 03:31:32.440 Like ah, this feels cut down They took a lot of features out all that kind of stuff 03:31:32.520 --> 03:31:37.080 But then I really enjoyed oblivion because a fantastic game and then I played skyrim and I was just like 03:31:38.760 --> 03:31:44.280 I played I tried to play morrowind after playing oblivion as my first one and I was like this is needlessly obtuse 03:31:44.360 --> 03:31:49.000 It's gonna be really rough. Yeah, it's uh The like and it looks like ass 03:31:52.920 --> 03:32:00.680 But like the the feature cut down To to skyrim is big and there's there's really good solid beats with skyrim 03:32:00.680 --> 03:32:04.040 There's really there's parts of it that are fantastic. It's just 03:32:04.840 --> 03:32:10.600 And iconic not as good, right? It's gonna be it's part of the culture now. I think like it's very influential 03:32:10.680 --> 03:32:15.880 But I don't know. Yeah, I'm skyrim. There's just less like role playing opportunities like in morrowind 03:32:15.960 --> 03:32:20.920 It was I don't know you spend an hour making your character and then you forget you did it wrong 03:32:21.000 --> 03:32:25.960 So you just die as soon as you get off the boat You can't carry your clothes 03:32:26.920 --> 03:32:31.960 I Oblivion was happy made it middle ground, right? Yeah 03:32:32.200 --> 03:32:37.720 I I kind of feel that way oblivion feels like the most approachable best version of it if that makes sense 03:32:37.800 --> 03:32:39.960 It feels the most dated out of the three 03:32:40.840 --> 03:32:44.200 What? Compared to morrowind. Yeah 03:32:44.760 --> 03:32:47.960 Because morrowind feels like it was a billion years ago 03:32:49.160 --> 03:32:52.680 Oh, I see so you mean oblivion feels like oh 03:32:53.000 --> 03:32:56.600 It wasn't that long ago, but that looks like the graphics from three years ago 03:32:57.160 --> 03:33:05.560 Even though it was way longer than that. Do you know what I mean? Okay, like oblivion to me feels the most dated out of the three of them. That's an interesting take 03:33:06.600 --> 03:33:13.080 I see where you're going with that. Yeah, that's an interesting take the bloom was real on oblivion. Oh, yeah 03:33:13.400 --> 03:33:19.400 Oh, we got a bloom. Let's go And a facial animation how much bloom do you want? Yes 03:33:19.880 --> 03:33:24.840 Looking I'm just I'm just scrolling through screenshots right now. It's just like look at this shield 03:33:26.040 --> 03:33:29.400 Yeah, I remember that. Yeah Yeah 03:33:29.400 --> 03:33:33.400 See what do you what I mean? That that looks like it was from a time period 03:33:33.960 --> 03:33:40.920 Yeah, morrowind looked like it was four four dudes made some pixels like look at the like glowing marble in the background 03:33:41.240 --> 03:33:44.200 Like how white the tops of that is. Yeah, that was 03:33:45.800 --> 03:33:48.040 That was a brutal thing about this game 03:33:50.120 --> 03:33:56.680 One thing that really killed it for me is I really really liked the like factions and guilds in morrowind and that 03:33:57.080 --> 03:34:00.440 Absolutely still felt like a really really strong part of the game 03:34:01.000 --> 03:34:08.600 in oblivion And then in skyrim it was like just join all of them. Yeah, it started kind of falling off a little bit 03:34:08.680 --> 03:34:16.200 They we didn't seem as interesting the storylines didn't seem that great Like the the dark brotherhood storyline in oblivion is like one of the best in a video game ever 03:34:17.160 --> 03:34:20.200 And then you do the dark brotherhood quest line in skyrim and it's like 03:34:21.080 --> 03:34:25.240 I did the mage one and it was like, oh you went on an adventure now. You're king of the mages 03:34:25.800 --> 03:34:30.600 Also, you're in the dark brotherhood in the thieves guild and all the rest of them and there's no problems 03:34:30.680 --> 03:34:34.200 Whatever, you're just fine. Yeah go run around and then 03:34:34.920 --> 03:34:38.680 And then you you see the natural progression of that in starfield and it's just like 03:34:39.320 --> 03:34:43.080 None of it matters. You'll be done the entire question for this group of people in like four quests 03:34:43.320 --> 03:34:46.280 And then yeah, starfield will never affect anything ever again. So 03:34:46.920 --> 03:34:52.120 I got that in skyrim after like 20 30 hours and then in starfield it was hour four 03:34:52.200 --> 03:34:54.920 I was like, oh, I know what this game is. I um 03:34:55.320 --> 03:34:57.960 Yeah, so like that's one of the reasons why like oblivion a lot 03:34:58.520 --> 03:35:04.200 Despite being a mainline morrowind fanboys because you never feel that morrowind you also never feel that in oblivion 03:35:04.600 --> 03:35:09.560 And then like you said 30 hours ish in skyrim you start to feel that and then yeah starfield is just yeah 03:35:09.560 --> 03:35:14.920 You get through like one of the the quest lines for a guild and then you start another one and it's just 03:35:16.440 --> 03:35:18.760 Yeah, yeah, it's over now. Yeah 03:35:19.960 --> 03:35:25.480 Shall we do a second merch message? What about second merch message? I do have to be home for for nine tonight 03:35:25.560 --> 03:35:30.200 Oh, I need to go pretty soon. So let's try to power through some of these. What a guy. Oh, keep the birds 03:35:31.800 --> 03:35:39.080 High lld as a mainframe software engineer. I sometimes storage engineer. Sorry as a mainframe storage engineer 03:35:39.320 --> 03:35:43.960 I sometimes am sad that the skills I learn at my job can't be used in a hobby 03:35:44.440 --> 03:35:47.640 Uh proprietary imb Z 03:35:47.640 --> 03:35:50.920 IBM IMB 03:35:51.240 --> 03:35:54.520 No, I know, but they need an idea. Okay. I figured 03:35:55.240 --> 03:35:58.600 IBM Z software and code mostly. Have you had similar situations? 03:35:59.080 --> 03:36:07.000 I can make second guess myself here. Um I don't know more into management and that's honestly kind of helpful all over the place. Yeah 03:36:07.800 --> 03:36:12.520 um It's amazing how similar managing 03:36:13.560 --> 03:36:15.560 Employees is to raising kids 03:36:19.960 --> 03:36:23.880 So I guess a lot of the skills that I work on at work are also good at home 03:36:24.600 --> 03:36:28.360 Uh, I mean, it's just people. It's people interaction. I don't mean that in like a condescending way 03:36:28.360 --> 03:36:31.160 I just mean that it's it's people people interaction 03:36:31.800 --> 03:36:38.440 Um, so yeah, no, no, not really. I mean, I kind of turned my hobby into a job. So I think yeah, I'm sorry to hear that 03:36:39.320 --> 03:36:42.760 but, um also 03:36:42.760 --> 03:36:45.400 Good for you if it was positive tail. No 03:36:47.000 --> 03:36:49.000 What's that copy pasta? 03:36:50.520 --> 03:36:59.000 Uh That's too long. I didn't read it, but I'm sorry that happened to you or congrats. Yeah. Yeah, something like that 03:36:59.480 --> 03:37:02.600 It's better written. I ain't reading all that. I'm happy for you though 03:37:03.720 --> 03:37:08.440 Um, or sorry that happened. Yeah Yeah 03:37:08.680 --> 03:37:10.680 Anyway carry on 03:37:12.600 --> 03:37:17.800 Okay Howdy lld Linus, how is your g 915 holding up? 03:37:17.960 --> 03:37:22.120 I feel like my keys have gotten loose and the stabilization isn't great anymore 03:37:22.360 --> 03:37:27.720 Curious, it's just me or not. Um It's fine other than some of my leds died 03:37:28.360 --> 03:37:30.680 Uh, I don't use it that much though. So 03:37:31.560 --> 03:37:42.200 Yeah I still like it But I only have one still on my main gaming rig at home, which I don't use as much as like my work computer 03:37:44.280 --> 03:37:48.520 Hi Linus, what's the most annoying tech with your pool? Oh my god, all of it 03:37:49.320 --> 03:37:55.720 Yeah, yeah here here I've worked on swimming pool since the days of time clock and the touch screen automation has been awful 03:37:55.720 --> 03:38:01.400 Is it everything's awful the fact that they want everything to talk to each other but the fact that they don't 03:38:01.960 --> 03:38:08.920 and just like how Like it's just I don't know maybe and maybe I'm just maybe I'm just immediate but like 03:38:09.800 --> 03:38:13.080 How any of this stuff isn't just completely automated at this point? 03:38:13.160 --> 03:38:16.200 Like do you know how the salt cell chlorination works? 03:38:16.520 --> 03:38:22.200 You just set it to a percentage duty cycle and then the next day you go and test the water and be like 03:38:22.200 --> 03:38:24.440 Is that the right amount of chlorine in it? Like there's no 03:38:25.400 --> 03:38:29.320 There's no like I would think you could just put chemicals in a hopper 03:38:29.720 --> 03:38:32.840 And it would just like test it on its own and adjust it on its own like the 03:38:33.800 --> 03:38:38.040 Because it's not like you don't want to still have to use the chemicals company dude test the pool anyway 03:38:38.120 --> 03:38:41.720 What are we going to do after what is the infrastructure team going to do after smash champs open? 03:38:42.040 --> 03:38:47.080 I have built a building for you every single year that I have worked here. So what's next year? 03:38:47.560 --> 03:38:54.600 Yeah, I've been nearly been here three years. This is my third building. That's up to tarant. The automatic chlorinator machine company. That's up to tarant 03:38:55.880 --> 03:39:01.560 So yeah, anyway, it's it's really frustrating and it's just like like the stupidest stuff 03:39:01.640 --> 03:39:04.520 Like these are as far as I can tell reasonably sizable companies 03:39:05.000 --> 03:39:09.560 But when you turn off the the lights in the pool the led lights in the pool 03:39:10.680 --> 03:39:16.120 You can hear it. You can hear the relays going chink chink chink chink. It actually cycles through 03:39:16.120 --> 03:39:21.240 It's just programmed to cycle through all the fixed modes instead of just having power off as a 03:39:21.800 --> 03:39:26.600 Thing that it can jump to directly. Let's just all right. I'm going home and starting a pool company. This is ridiculous 03:39:26.680 --> 03:39:33.640 No, I'm serious. You could kill it. You could kill it I think I would the the stuff that we have to deal with is insane. It costs so much 03:39:34.040 --> 03:39:38.280 We got a uv sterilizer for 60 bucks broken off of craigslist. They're like 03:39:39.320 --> 03:39:43.320 $3,000 exactly. It's a uv light bulb in a tube exactly 03:39:45.560 --> 03:39:49.000 We just need we need to do manufacturing here as well because it has to be another building 03:39:49.080 --> 03:39:53.240 It's all just pvc pipe. I'm just saying and light bulb. It just it has to be another building 03:39:53.480 --> 03:39:58.040 Yeah, like how oh dude how expensive that stuff is like that's a valve 03:39:59.000 --> 03:40:01.800 That's a servo and a molded plastic 03:40:02.600 --> 03:40:08.040 What do you mean? They have an expected lifespan of two to four years. Yeah, what are you even talking about? 03:40:08.120 --> 03:40:13.960 Are they dealing with chlorinated water? Yeah, but that's not the part like they just still 03:40:14.680 --> 03:40:18.360 Still what are they doing chemical plants? They make it out of something else. No, I'm just saying like 03:40:18.680 --> 03:40:23.160 They're probably doing things that will be eaten by chlorinated water knowing that you'll have to replace it 03:40:23.720 --> 03:40:27.160 Oh, yeah, definitely. I wouldn't be surprised at all if it was like a 03:40:28.680 --> 03:40:34.200 That's I'm starting to pull automation. Avon Fox says I work with industrial automation for freight and it's all the same issues 03:40:34.280 --> 03:40:41.640 Yeah, I I believe you. I'm gonna invent a 15th standard. Nice. Good. Actually. No can bus. I'm doing it with can bus 03:40:42.760 --> 03:40:46.840 All right We got it. We gotta keep these going. Oh, yeah, I gave it a hell out of here. Yeah 03:40:47.320 --> 03:40:50.440 Uh, saving up for a backpack question for Linus did in 03:40:51.080 --> 03:40:56.280 In a valley in a valley can't spell ever make you those light switches or did g e make it right? 03:40:56.760 --> 03:41:01.960 um The light switches. I think we're getting an alpha or beta version 03:41:02.840 --> 03:41:10.200 Imminently. Oh, yeah, so I'm pretty excited to try out millimeter wave if they're like actually good. No, I still won't think about it 03:41:10.920 --> 03:41:16.360 Cool. My house is very iot free and I'm pretty down with it. It's honestly not a bad thing 03:41:16.600 --> 03:41:22.760 Yeah, I like my iot garage door openers that I don't think I could ever go back to not having that. Yep 03:41:23.080 --> 03:41:27.160 um Spooky but yep, I like my 03:41:28.360 --> 03:41:35.640 I like my um Like smart lights in the kids bedroom. They like playing with the colors very basic smart light stuff going on 03:41:36.280 --> 03:41:40.360 That is good because we have like lights that turn red at a certain point in night 03:41:41.080 --> 03:41:46.040 at night That's good UK fan first time watching live 03:41:46.840 --> 03:41:53.400 You discussed risk when licensing your brand if that wasn't a concern what products besides cereal would 03:41:53.640 --> 03:41:56.760 Linus and luke be keen to collab with on another brand 03:41:57.880 --> 03:42:02.120 Automatic pool chlorinators. Yeah, exactly right. Um, I don't know 03:42:02.200 --> 03:42:07.080 I don't know so many of the things that I would want to do is just because like I need a good one 03:42:07.320 --> 03:42:14.840 Yeah, and they all suck. Yep. Um Luckily, there's a lot of options in that category. Yeah, like there's the obvious pc stuff 03:42:14.920 --> 03:42:19.320 Like I'd love to do a case or something like that Uh, but I at this point 03:42:19.400 --> 03:42:24.040 I don't really have a ton of ideas that I don't see someone else doing a good enough job of so 03:42:24.760 --> 03:42:26.760 um 03:42:28.200 --> 03:42:33.080 I mean I've talked about this before I've wanted to make like a really premium water pistol for a long time like 03:42:33.560 --> 03:42:37.480 Like there's just I don't know. There's Stupid stuff, but for the most part 03:42:37.560 --> 03:42:43.160 I don't um, I was talking to someone the other night and they were telling me about all their like expensive toys that they have 03:42:43.640 --> 03:42:48.520 You know, like they've got some of those like three wheel Almost motorcycle, but it's like two wheels in the front 03:42:48.520 --> 03:42:54.520 They have like two of them and then they have like all these like doom buggy things up at their property in the interior and like 03:42:54.920 --> 03:42:59.560 He's telling me about all his cars and motorcycles and I'm just like, I don't know. I can only really cool, man 03:42:59.640 --> 03:43:05.320 I can only ride one motorcycle at once personally. Yeah, um, and like to be clear like that's that's cool 03:43:05.560 --> 03:43:12.200 You know do whatever you want. Um, I'm with I'm with your wife At least it's that and not women, you know that you're spending your money on true 03:43:12.520 --> 03:43:16.360 No, that was his joke not mine Like I'm just repeating it 03:43:16.360 --> 03:43:19.640 He said I'm with your wife. No, no, no. He said he said 03:43:20.520 --> 03:43:25.000 No, he said my wife isn't upset about it because at least I'm just buying stupid 03:43:25.240 --> 03:43:30.200 Got it mechanical toys. I'm not spending it on women. Right. Um, and I'm like fair enough 03:43:30.600 --> 03:43:32.920 So I'm saying I'm with I'm saying I'm with his off 03:43:33.960 --> 03:43:36.760 And she like I'm saying I support his wife's position 03:43:37.560 --> 03:43:39.560 Oh, you do 03:43:40.600 --> 03:43:42.840 In what way exactly enough 03:43:45.080 --> 03:43:49.240 Um Next merge message, okay 03:43:51.400 --> 03:43:56.840 Uh, luke we just added a fourth bird to our flock. Do you have any plans to get more? No, no 03:43:58.440 --> 03:44:00.680 Beat him to the punch. What kind would you get none? 03:44:01.560 --> 03:44:05.800 Dinner chickens. No Well, that's true actually 03:44:05.800 --> 03:44:11.720 um No, they're dude. They're so expensive and they take actually a lot of time 03:44:12.600 --> 03:44:16.840 I'm not willing to get bigger birds because then their poop is a huge problem 03:44:17.720 --> 03:44:23.720 Um Budgie poop is surprisingly convenient. It's just these little pellets and it dries really quickly 03:44:23.720 --> 03:44:28.760 So it's very easy to clean larger bird poop is slimy and large and not easy to clean 03:44:28.840 --> 03:44:33.800 And that is a huge gap to span and one I am not willing to do unless I 03:44:34.840 --> 03:44:40.200 Unless I would have like a huge aviary that they could fly around in which is not gonna happen. So like no 03:44:40.760 --> 03:44:46.360 Um, yeah, dude, it would have to be like in this climate You'd have to have it heated and everything and like because they 03:44:47.000 --> 03:44:51.320 Well, maybe some other birds are better with it. Budgies do not do well with cold. Well, no, the thing is 03:44:51.640 --> 03:44:56.120 I don't know if you know this, but you're you're not allowed to keep native species as a pet 03:44:57.000 --> 03:45:01.960 So it's you like you literally couldn't have like a robin. So any of the birds are gonna be good in the cold 03:45:02.200 --> 03:45:06.280 I can't have so these little australian birds that are used to super high heat 03:45:06.440 --> 03:45:12.040 They have to live up here. So they have to be heated all the time And then it needs to be big enough that they could fly around and entertain themselves 03:45:12.200 --> 03:45:15.640 Oh, well, w calderini has a good point. That's only if you want the birds to live 03:45:16.760 --> 03:45:21.400 Otherwise you don't have to worry about any of that. Yeah, honestly, it it sucks because they're they're high 03:45:21.720 --> 03:45:25.560 Very highly intelligent animals, but they get sold next to things like hamsters 03:45:26.120 --> 03:45:32.040 So people just treat them like throw away pets. Yeah, and it's like man, you could just take a pigeon though 03:45:32.520 --> 03:45:39.400 They're free And a door duck I was gonna say what you could do is you could get one of those nice smart birds and then just like plop it down in front 03:45:39.480 --> 03:45:44.360 of twitch for a couple days Oh, yeah, then it would be much more would be teaching who 03:45:44.920 --> 03:45:50.440 I have kind of thought before that I could level it out twitch stream the birds and it would be a decently successful stream 03:45:50.600 --> 03:45:54.040 Yeah, oh, yeah burp burp 03:45:54.040 --> 03:45:57.560 Pirate software does it right doesn't he it's like a ferret stream or something 03:45:58.920 --> 03:46:03.000 I think so surprise me I think I think he does ferret software 03:46:05.320 --> 03:46:11.480 Let's see There's a thousand people watching it right now ferrets are characters if I didn't have cats I'd have ferrets 03:46:11.480 --> 03:46:15.560 But it's a thousand people watching them sleep. It's a it's a black and white 03:46:15.720 --> 03:46:21.480 Look, it's a black and white scene of them just being asleep and they know we're here. Okay 03:46:23.480 --> 03:46:25.560 Maybe we should really should we raid them on twitch? 03:46:27.720 --> 03:46:33.320 No, no Who cares they don't even like I don't think so. I don't even look at that still 03:46:33.320 --> 03:46:36.440 I've even looked at our twitch dashboard today. I don't even think we're allowed to do 03:46:37.160 --> 03:46:45.080 Like is this a Are people watching on twitch? Oh, I also look so weird. Oh another dashboard. Oh, you're not technically even watching it 03:46:45.640 --> 03:46:48.520 This is like a preview. I never use twitch 03:46:49.480 --> 03:46:55.640 Oh, we have 2100. Wow, dude. So his his stream of his sleeping parrots that are doing nothing 03:46:55.800 --> 03:47:01.560 Is is half as popular exactly half as popular as the whole way in show 03:47:03.080 --> 03:47:05.080 Wow 03:47:06.280 --> 03:47:09.880 What's the term skibbety brain rot ohio like I don't know 03:47:14.040 --> 03:47:16.040 He's running across the screen and now he's hooked 03:47:19.720 --> 03:47:25.000 He's okay Yeah, I am I am now a ferret watcher 03:47:25.800 --> 03:47:31.000 All right Okay, let's do another one. Are you getting more birds? No 03:47:33.400 --> 03:47:38.840 Okay, having worked on cyberpunk. It feels good to see it being used for benchmarks 03:47:39.240 --> 03:47:43.480 What criteria do you use to decide which games are used for benchmarking? 03:47:44.200 --> 03:47:51.400 I will say that a lot of our criteria has not been necessarily the criteria. I might have used if I was um 03:47:52.440 --> 03:47:55.960 Uh kept in the loop on it 03:47:55.960 --> 03:48:01.480 What I will also say is that the criteria we should be using and the criteria we'll be using going forward 03:48:01.960 --> 03:48:08.440 Is that we're looking for games that are benchmarkable so that um, so we can get repeatable runs out of them 03:48:09.080 --> 03:48:15.240 We're looking for games that are a mix of CPU dependent and GPU dependent games 03:48:15.560 --> 03:48:22.200 We want to have a mix of popular games Even if they're older and newer games that take advantage of the newest features 03:48:22.280 --> 03:48:27.240 And therefore could be indicative of future game performance could be that's a big asterisk 03:48:28.520 --> 03:48:31.640 And we are looking for games that 03:48:32.200 --> 03:48:37.880 Basically all of that boils down to we're looking for games that will help us separate the best performers from the worst performers 03:48:37.960 --> 03:48:42.520 And it is some combination of of relevance to the player base 03:48:42.920 --> 03:48:47.560 Feature support and demanding this the strain that it puts on various parts of your system 03:48:48.920 --> 03:48:56.520 Loans lug and Dan how good is a chaotic role like Dan's for career development right now 03:48:56.680 --> 03:49:02.920 I'm able to choose between doing interesting stuff without any focus or a stable narrow job at the same company 03:49:03.320 --> 03:49:09.000 I don't know I was going to leave that to you guys who employ me and dictate my career rather than me who 03:49:09.240 --> 03:49:15.080 Does the things and the stuff I don't really think of myself as dictating anyone's career. I think people 03:49:15.800 --> 03:49:21.640 Make themselves valuable to a company and are therefore valuable or they don't so much and they discover that 03:49:23.320 --> 03:49:28.360 They aren't I know there is a balance. I think yeah, I think sometimes it 03:49:30.040 --> 03:49:35.080 Don't become indispensable It can it can somewhat depend on who 03:49:36.760 --> 03:49:45.160 Who you're gonna have to go to if you need Advancement within the company or whatever because some people can treat that very negatively where like 03:49:45.720 --> 03:49:49.640 Oh, you're used for a bunch of different things and if I promote you 03:49:51.320 --> 03:49:54.680 I'm gonna have to replace you in all these different realms. Therefore. I'm gonna 03:49:55.480 --> 03:50:01.560 Halt your career progression because you've been helpful. That's super toxic. It happens though. Yeah 03:50:01.880 --> 03:50:07.480 Oh, there's also probably like a lot of it comes down to what is the like culture of your workspace? 03:50:07.560 --> 03:50:12.360 And who are you actually working for? um 03:50:12.360 --> 03:50:15.800 Because that's going to affect this a lot and if you if you think 03:50:16.680 --> 03:50:20.040 If you don't think you're going to stay at the place that you're at 03:50:20.120 --> 03:50:27.400 I think it could be a risky strategy Because trying to describe what the heck you've been doing for a while to a prospective employer 03:50:27.800 --> 03:50:32.520 Is going to be a lot worse than just being able to write it down in one line because you had a very easy to understand 03:50:32.600 --> 03:50:35.800 Here's my job title. Yeah, this is what I did. Here's my job title 03:50:35.880 --> 03:50:39.080 There's all kinds of different advice that could be good for different situations 03:50:39.160 --> 03:50:44.360 Like my whole the way that I made my way through the ranks at NCIX so quickly was by doing the job that I wanted 03:50:44.920 --> 03:50:49.640 to do So I was always spending my time doing whatever I aspired 03:50:50.120 --> 03:50:53.480 For my new position to be and we had a really loose 03:50:54.200 --> 03:50:59.880 management structure That allowed that but that's not necessarily true at every role 03:51:01.320 --> 03:51:05.400 So that's really tough, you know other sort of generally good advice is you know 03:51:06.040 --> 03:51:12.360 Get your boss a promotion And then take his spot and then and then a lot of the time no like playing 03:51:13.080 --> 03:51:16.680 Playing that game politically. They'll take you with them. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah 03:51:17.320 --> 03:51:20.760 Yeah Make make the other people around you look really good 03:51:20.920 --> 03:51:26.360 The taking them with them thing is interesting because I've observed this a few times actually where like someone gets 03:51:26.920 --> 03:51:32.120 A promotion or even sometimes moves positions entirely. Yeah to a different company and then they're like well 03:51:32.360 --> 03:51:39.320 I really like working with this particular person I'm a lot of honestly a lot of skills in the workplace are quite transferable 03:51:39.880 --> 03:51:45.320 So I'm sure they can learn this new role and instead of like trying to fish through hiring which is 03:51:47.880 --> 03:51:51.800 Honestly a nightmare, um, I can just bring this person on that I know is going to do well 03:51:52.280 --> 03:51:57.160 Yeah, a lot of people are saying like times have changed and you know what the times had already changed 03:51:57.240 --> 03:52:01.080 I mean realistically millennials did not get a great ride in the workplace 03:52:01.080 --> 03:52:07.800 Um, I got I got kind of lucky slash. I I did the right things some combination of the two 03:52:08.440 --> 03:52:17.000 um And yeah top gear 12 24s advice that move jobs is is a really important thing if you want to if you want to optimize 03:52:17.640 --> 03:52:22.040 Uh, your career path, but it sort of relies on being able to sell yourself to a degree 03:52:22.680 --> 03:52:26.360 Right. Um, that's that's part of the whole process of reapplying for a new job 03:52:26.440 --> 03:52:34.040 Is you have to be able to to luke's point Communicate effectively what exactly it was that you were doing and why it was so important 03:52:34.440 --> 03:52:38.920 And why it will be a benefit to the new company so they should pay you ideally more, right? 03:52:40.280 --> 03:52:45.160 It's tough every situation is so So different 03:52:46.440 --> 03:52:49.960 Yeah Sorry a lot of it just depends on 03:52:50.600 --> 03:52:56.680 What your situation is yeah Hey l l d i dancing in here going well, I have no idea what to do with any of that 03:52:57.480 --> 03:53:01.800 Oh, I think that's fine. I I can't get luke promoted. I mean what's above c level? 03:53:02.440 --> 03:53:05.000 I have two of those c level at a bigger company 03:53:06.120 --> 03:53:08.280 He's already got two companies. I don't think he needs more 03:53:09.480 --> 03:53:13.400 I don't want more dude. What about third company? Oh goodness 03:53:15.000 --> 03:53:17.400 It's cto of smash jams. Oh 03:53:19.320 --> 03:53:21.800 I basically am actually oh crap you are 03:53:23.080 --> 03:53:27.240 Nice. Hey l l d. I recently started a new job as a sweet 03:53:29.800 --> 03:53:33.960 I don't actually know what sweet stands for software engineer sw 03:53:35.160 --> 03:53:38.280 Software is one word. I would assume software engineer. Yeah, me too 03:53:38.920 --> 03:53:45.480 In the u.s. My company recently bought in an amon brought in an amazon executive who 03:53:46.440 --> 03:53:54.360 Stacked rank aggressively and turned 15 percent of the teams every six months. How common is this in the industry? 03:53:57.160 --> 03:54:01.800 I mean we've talked about it a bunch of times layoffs dot fyi or is it just layoff 03:54:05.240 --> 03:54:09.800 I'm still sticking with sweet Yeah layoffs dot fyi 03:54:09.800 --> 03:54:15.240 Um is an interesting site to poke through every once in a while. Um, oh, yeah gm had a big one recently 03:54:15.720 --> 03:54:21.800 Yeah, and like there's a bunch of software people this thing where you bring in a leader from a company that knows how to 03:54:22.120 --> 03:54:26.680 Fire huge amounts of people and then you just use them to cleave your company down for stock value or whatever 03:54:26.680 --> 03:54:29.160 Yeah, that's a thing has been a thing as well 03:54:29.880 --> 03:54:33.080 for a long time It's 03:54:33.080 --> 03:54:37.480 It's more talked about now and a lot of really big layoffs have happened over the last little bit 03:54:37.560 --> 03:54:42.040 But like this type of activity has happened for a long time 03:54:42.040 --> 03:54:47.640 Yeah, layoffs and stack wrecking firings are different. Sure. Whatever ignore the terminology firing a bunch of people is what I meant 03:54:53.400 --> 03:54:59.320 Hey dll dot dll I recently picked up a wearable subwoofer called the basslet. Sorry basslet 03:54:59.640 --> 03:55:04.440 You did a video about it seven years ago. Do you remember anything about it? It was my first LTT video 03:55:05.400 --> 03:55:07.560 Basslet. Yeah, it was a piece of shit 03:55:08.440 --> 03:55:17.560 A wearable subwoofer Yeah, it basically vibrated on your wrist and it was supposed to create the effect of like very deep bass or something like that 03:55:17.960 --> 03:55:19.960 Yikes 03:55:21.000 --> 03:55:23.000 I found the Kickstarter 03:55:24.280 --> 03:55:30.440 Yeah, where's that? Where's our video on it? I'm uh, some of our old videos are very difficult to find 03:55:30.920 --> 03:55:34.200 Yeah, did they know what a subwoofer is? Here we go 03:55:35.160 --> 03:55:38.120 I like that. Yeah, that's that's more like it 03:55:40.440 --> 03:55:45.960 Um, what's up? I've been meaning to ask james if uh, he knows they're using him for this 03:55:50.520 --> 03:55:55.720 Become a member to this channel. We used to do a lot of really fun like uh, skiddy type stuff 03:55:56.760 --> 03:56:01.000 Yeah, so there you go. Yeah, you plug the thing in or something and it's like, I don't know 03:56:01.480 --> 03:56:03.800 There's no way that would ever be good 03:56:04.600 --> 03:56:08.680 Yeah, no, it's it's dumb less stupid than it sounds. I want one now 03:56:10.120 --> 03:56:18.680 It's silent The full power of music and high definition anywhere you go the power of the basslet watch size subwoofer delivers bass right into your body 03:56:19.480 --> 03:56:21.480 um, yeah, so 03:56:23.080 --> 03:56:28.520 Basically, it's uh, yeah, it was pretty dumb. I think why is this the most replayed moment? 03:56:29.080 --> 03:56:31.080 Oh 03:56:32.920 --> 03:56:37.480 Okay, that's why Very cool 03:56:37.480 --> 03:56:44.200 It's funny. Like dude every time someone's like, yeah, I'm not that into LTT anymore because they'd like become all about like 03:56:44.360 --> 03:56:46.360 I can't believe they do potty humor now 03:56:48.200 --> 03:56:51.320 We definitely didn't do that. Yeah, literally forever. Yeah 03:56:52.920 --> 03:56:56.360 Oh well anyway Next one afternoon. Good sirs 03:56:57.080 --> 03:57:01.480 How do you both manage the fact that you're the bosses but also want to get your hands dirty? 03:57:02.040 --> 03:57:06.920 Luke, we need to see you in more videos Scrap your words I scratched an itch 03:57:07.560 --> 03:57:13.960 Um, I I want to do more. I mean, that's why I'm bringing in more people to help with administrative stuff 03:57:14.040 --> 03:57:19.560 It's still not helping much because I'm just doing we were so under-admin'd that um 03:57:20.680 --> 03:57:27.080 like I think We've had a lot of challenges to overcome as a company as we've grown 03:57:27.160 --> 03:57:32.440 I mean a lot of businesses fail as they make the transition that we're making right now 03:57:33.160 --> 03:57:39.160 We have a lot of processes to continue to build. It's a it's it's always it's a journey. It's not a destination 03:57:39.720 --> 03:57:48.680 I do want to get my hands dirty more but It hasn't been possible as I've ended up just sort of plugging more gaps that we just didn't have any coverage on before 03:57:48.680 --> 03:57:52.040 I think we're a better organization than we were but I think it's clear we need to add 03:57:52.680 --> 03:57:56.760 a little bit more structure even now and I think there's things that we can do to 03:57:57.960 --> 03:58:02.920 um To make the whole thing run more cleanly and require 03:58:03.560 --> 03:58:07.080 Less constant interference from management because I don't think anyone's happy about that 03:58:07.080 --> 03:58:12.120 I don't think management wants to be constantly stepping in on things and I don't think people like management constantly coming in and 03:58:12.680 --> 03:58:15.000 you know nitpicking at things so um 03:58:16.920 --> 03:58:22.440 Hopefully someday some someday someday my job will be to like just play with this stuff again 03:58:22.680 --> 03:58:24.680 Because that's really what I'd like to get back to 03:58:25.880 --> 03:58:30.520 Any plans for LTT jeans? jeans are hard 03:58:30.520 --> 03:58:36.120 Greetings Dan Linus and luke Linus. Are you reconsidering swearing by distilled water after the leak? 03:58:36.280 --> 03:58:41.400 I've used 80s volts wagon coolant for years and has corrosion inhibitors for copper 03:58:41.960 --> 03:58:47.800 um Yeah, I think i'm just going to give up on some performance and throw a bunch of antifreeze in that loop 03:58:48.360 --> 03:58:55.160 And we're still going to do the like grounding thing whatever we're like, we're going to try and make it not um 03:58:57.080 --> 03:59:02.920 Electrolytically corrode or whatever was going on in there, but I think i'm just going to throw some anti corrosives in as well 03:59:04.680 --> 03:59:08.520 Hey Linus, I've been playing badminton non competitively for about three years now 03:59:08.680 --> 03:59:12.040 Any tips for people trying to step up their game and what's your personal racket shoe? 03:59:12.680 --> 03:59:18.920 shuttle recommendations Shoes you should you should play in whatever is the most comfortable for you 03:59:22.200 --> 03:59:29.400 Here hold on a second Rackets same thing you shouldn't spend a ton on a racket until you are an extremely high level player 03:59:29.960 --> 03:59:35.080 Realistically you are way better off with like an entry level as long as it's a one piece graphite 03:59:35.240 --> 03:59:41.160 Like like carbon racket like don't get one of those ones with the t joint with the like made out of aluminum or steel or whatever 03:59:41.160 --> 03:59:46.680 Like at a proper carbon racket, but beyond that I would say get fresh strings and get a good quality grip 03:59:47.000 --> 03:59:51.480 That's way more important than the than the racket for a novice level player 03:59:52.120 --> 03:59:56.440 As for how to get better. This is a great channel badminton insight 03:59:57.320 --> 03:59:59.320 these two have just uh 04:00:01.800 --> 04:00:04.600 Outstanding on camera personalities 04:00:05.880 --> 04:00:09.880 Really good tips. They are current professional level players if I recall correctly 04:00:10.600 --> 04:00:13.800 Uh, and there's just so many well insights 04:00:14.600 --> 04:00:18.280 About badminton uh in their content. They also do some really fun stuff 04:00:18.360 --> 04:00:24.760 They did one recently where they played against, um, this eight-year-old and 10-year-old that are absolutely 04:00:25.560 --> 04:00:31.480 Incredible little girls players that are ripping it up in the uk right now winning some u17 tournaments and stuff like that 04:00:32.040 --> 04:00:38.520 See if I can see if I can find it doesn't matter anyway Uh, they've got a lot of really great tips and a lot of stuff that you can practice at home on your own 04:00:38.520 --> 04:00:43.080 You don't even need a court for so Check those guys out. They're doing a great job 04:00:44.280 --> 04:00:47.240 And last what's right? I'd be so down 04:00:48.200 --> 04:00:53.960 Do a collab. Oh, yeah, that'd be cool Uh, the last one I've got for you is the lux screwdriver still coming 04:00:54.680 --> 04:00:59.160 Someday, um, it just hasn't really felt like the right time to do a, you know 04:00:59.240 --> 04:01:04.440 $300 screwdriver or whatever it's gonna cost once we're machining every piece of it out of solid 04:01:05.320 --> 04:01:15.880 metal Apple leather you should do an apple potentially like exotic metals, you know, like it's um, it's felt like uh, it's felt like a product for a more 04:01:16.680 --> 04:01:19.880 um prosperous time and 04:01:19.880 --> 04:01:28.760 A lot of our audience has been Has been suffering in a big way like a lot of our audience comes from game dev comes from it comes from 04:01:29.640 --> 04:01:40.040 Like the cloud comes from these Companies that are just announcing layoffs after layoffs. So one of the main reasons we haven't moved forward with the lux screwdriver is that we felt 04:01:41.160 --> 04:01:44.040 That it would just seem a little tone-deaf like we're not gonna build 04:01:44.520 --> 04:01:49.960 We're not gonna start building low quality products. We're gonna unapologetically make high quality products that cost what they cost 04:01:50.600 --> 04:01:57.000 but the lux screwdriver, um Feels like such a such a 0.1 percenter item that we're kind of 04:01:57.960 --> 04:02:04.280 Thinking we're just gonna leave it alone for a little bit. Yeah, we'll still we'll still do it someday. I'm sure because it's really cool 04:02:05.720 --> 04:02:09.000 But like Yeah, not immediately. Yeah 04:02:12.840 --> 04:02:16.360 Oh, and I guess that's speaking of immediately it's immediately time to end the show 04:02:16.360 --> 04:02:21.160 Oh, we'll see you again next week same bad time same bad channel. Bye 04:02:27.000 --> 04:02:29.000 Oh 04:02:34.520 --> 04:02:36.520 So sore I'm so sore 04:02:52.680 --> 04:02:57.640 I am so sore We really need to make sure that we have