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Like, if anything, I think one year is not enough.

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Yeah. Um, yeah, yeah, no, I got you, I got you.

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I do know that it's been, I've heard that it's been misused in the past,

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where like parents might have a picture of their kid, but it was just like kids playing in the bath.

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Oh, I see. Traditional like actually innocent stuff.

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Right. Stuff. Got it.

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But in my opinion, that just it either shouldn't be criminal or it should be very criminal.

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Yeah. I don't know.

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Cool. Good chat. Um, Lucas allowed hats.

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Oh, unique username. Got it. You look like Duke.

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That's his costume. His costume is Duke.

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Just one person identified it correctly. So that works for me.

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And my costume is Sammy.

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Here, check it out. I'm dressed up as Sammy.

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Wait, where'd Sammy go?

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I'm Linus. I hate iPhones.

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And I use the AirPods, even though I hate iPhone.

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I use AirPods and I don't like iPhones.

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Well, it's not that I don't like iPhones.

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Sorry. I'm Linus and I hate iPhones.

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You went deeper. Yeah. Deeper is definitely not the way.

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I'm Linus and I hate iPhones. Okay. Now you sound like picking up.

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And this segment, who are sponsored?

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Well, anyhow, we should probably do the Wansho.

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Okay. Do you know, you know, I'm not sure the Wansho, right?

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It's welcome. To the Wansho. Wansho.

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We got some great topics here. Luke, what topic are you most interested in?

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No, no, no, no, no, no. You pull a dick move and you pick the first two.

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Oh, okay. Every time. And then you hunt for the one that you think I probably want to say.

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I haven't looked at any topics.

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Oh, my God. Okay. I'm like stuck halfway through, but then we're just going to go with it, you know.

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They're already done. Did you do the thing? Did you talk to AJ?

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I want that to be a priority like soon.

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Share with the headset.

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Wait, he didn't respond?

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I will look into this. I will look into this.

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Am I short on Linus? I feel like I'm short on Linus.

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Wait, I feel like I look so much shorter.

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My torso is a normal height. It's my legs that are short.

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So maybe it's the other way for you. It could be.

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I don't think, I don't think we're the same height. I think I'm slightly taller.

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I don't know. What? What?

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It feels similar.

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No, you say no, you look taller.

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You should say that. You should say no. You look taller.

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No. Listen, I'm an average height.

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I'm the average age and male height.

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Okay. Wait, I got like topics.

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Sorry. I have to read this.

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Now you're sounding just like Linus.

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Okay. Okay. I got it.

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I got it. Maybe.

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Don't be like, welcome to the WAN Show. We got some great news topics for you today.

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House robots are also here.

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Whoa. Robots, Luke. How do you feel about that?

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You're really making me feel really good at my job right now.

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Wait, how would you do it? How would you do it?

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A little bit more energy, man. A little bit more flow. Come on.

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Welcome to the WAN Show, everybody.

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We have some great news for you today.

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House robots are coming to our homes, Luke.

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Now I feel like I could be replaced too easily.

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I'm putting my gain limiter through the paces there.

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Was that too loud? Sorry. It was unironically a lot better.

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Okay. Topics, though, not news. Topics lined up for you today.

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We got some great topics lined up for you today. There you go.

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I'm going to flub it. You know what? We're going to go with it because this is the multiverse.

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Everything's a little different. Incompetent Linus. Yeah.

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I'm incompetent Linus.

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Worst timeline. I'm the worst timeline Linus.

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It's, yeah. TikTok Star.

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TikTok Star Linus multiverse.

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I'm Linus if shorts came first before long form.

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Yeah. There you go. YouTube came.

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YouTube was 2012. TikTok 2004. Shout out Lisa.

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She did my beard. She did power on my hair. Can you look at how my hair is lighter, actually?

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A little bit. Yeah. We filmed a full plane about it.

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I didn't originally, like in the camera, it doesn't look like that way at all.

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But in person, I see it. Yeah. I only see it through cameras.

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I haven't looked in the mirror yet. Oh, yeah. I'm too scared.

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Well, I'll see. Why?

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Why? I don't know. Maybe it'll be like.

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You think you want a beard? Yeah, maybe. I do want a beard.

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I do want a beard. It looks pretty good. I do want a beard.

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I'm not genetically built like that. I want to get patches here and here. It looks weird.

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So I have to shave it like every day. You know, like Naruto? It's like that.

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I don't. Okay. My bad.

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Sorry for speaking. Wow. I had to.

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That's Luke. What? Welcome to the Rancho.

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We've got some great topics signed up for you today.

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Sorry. We got some great topics. Do it from the top.

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Do it from the top. Pick two topics. Do it from the top.

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All right. All right. This is a rehearsal rehearsal rehearsal rehearsal.

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Are you actually doing the intro? Yeah. Oh my gosh.

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I'm slightly nervous. Okay. Okay.

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Okay. Welcome to the Rancho. We got a.

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Oh, what? What? 80% do that.

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80% I need. I need.

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I need. I need notes. I need notes.

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Is there a huge pause after welcome? I don't think so. You just rolls.

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You guys this week. You were like, welcome to the Rancho.

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Like it's like we're enjoying WWE or something.

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Okay. Welcome to the Rancho, everybody.

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We got some great topics lined up here for you today.

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Luke, house robots are also a freak.

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House robots are almost here. Oh, are they invading our houses and YouTube is making some changes.

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Those always go well. Luke, what are some topics you're interested in?

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The AMD is no longer updating some stuff and AMD is doing some other stuff.

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That's crazy. Intro button. Where's the intro button?

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Top. Right. I'll do it.

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Okay. And then we'll flip it and we don't acknowledge it.

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Yeah. Oh, do you mind if I completely not acknowledge it?

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That's kind of funny if you don't acknowledge it. I think so. Yeah, I don't acknowledge it.

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Is it just for the Floatplane audience, you know, the floaties? I don't know. Oh.

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Right now. Yeah. And Twitch.

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Oh. And Facebook. What?

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Never do that. No, you've officially, no, you're not playing the role correct.

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Not really. You don't acknowledge Twitch other than to insult them.

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I'm the multiverse. You do not shout out to. No Linus in any of the versions.

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This line is only like TikTok and Instagram. We used to be so friendly to Twitch.

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And now it's just the breakup was not good.

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It was a bad break. Except for we're still in relationship because we still stream there, I guess.

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I want to get some subway. We like share a dog or something.

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Sharing a dog. You should transfer it once a week. Yeah.

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Yeah. A custody of the dog. Yeah.

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Okay, so hold on. Sorry. Okay.

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I'm so nervous. I don't know why I'm so nervous. This is like the lowest stakes, but I don't make so nervous.

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You're fine. You're fine. It's like, welcome to the Wancho.

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Do you want to rip it out? Do you want to do more? No, no, no.

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You know what? I feel like if a flub is kind of funnier. Sure.

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Yeah. Because then YouTube is like, what's going on? And then, you know, the floaties would be like, aha, I know.

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I'm in the know. Yeah. I haven't read a chat.

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I'm like so, dude, this mic is so, I think I am short of lines.

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What the frick? It's like, I'm here, but he like, I'm like, it's like, you know, see, it's like hitting.

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It's probably just the, the leg torso thing that he's talking about.

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Like I, I, a pretty considerable amount of people think I'm taller than I am because

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when I sit next to people, I tend to look quite like my seats a lot lower right now.

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When I sit next to people, I tend to look really tall because my torso is really tall.

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My legs are very short. Yeah.

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Like my girlfriend can wear the same pants as me.

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That's crazy. Because our legs are exactly the same length and I'm like over a foot taller than her.

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It's all torso. I think I've met your girlfriend once.

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Yeah. I think I have. Yeah.

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She's like, I don't know. She's like not tall. Nope.

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Yeah. She's pretty average. Sorry.

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I got saved. You ready to do this thing? Yeah, dude.

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Is that what Linus says? Yeah. I watched the show.

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I watched the show. You ready to do this is like a pretty normal.

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Yeah. Oh yes. Yes, I do.

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House robot and the YouTube change. No, that's not.

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No. Okay. Does he actually real fake real fake Linus real cookie Linus?

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That's another thing you would, you would secretly have snacks somewhere.

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I don't always have snacks. Like 70%.

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I was thinking of eating a snack while you actually, it comes and goes.

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It comes and goes. I was going to choose something while you do topics, but are white choosing topics,

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but I was like, I think it's going to be bad for audio. So yeah, I didn't suggest it.

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I'm tired of being kind of. Seriously, every goddamn time I use it, I'm kind of.

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We're hoping to push a full plane update soon. That should more or less solve that for full plane.

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Was it already pushed? It might already be pushed.

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Sorry. So do you actually, not all you're an admin.

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If you want, we can make you a non admin account, but that won't actually work.

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So we give you access to things that are admin accounts. So yeah, basically just get, get fricking wrecked.

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My Microsoft account. I'm going to have to go sign into my key for account on my phone to get my Microsoft.

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Stupid. It's actually driving me insane.

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Yep. I have a question. Do you actually want, do you actually care?

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Do you actually want those to be the topics that you mentioned?

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Okay. Whichever ones you think. Oh, okay.

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That is, that is. The ones Luke wants are too wordy and I'm going to flub it.

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So I'm just, I'm choosing the ones. I think I have, I have good, uh, I can shorten it better.

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See, in this multiverse, I'm, uh, this Linus is very, um, considerate of Luke's desires

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for topics. Sounds fake. You can, you can do the Nintendo one because it talks about Pokemon.

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You like Pokemon, right? Oh yeah. Just make sure someone does the headline.

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Yeah. Okay. Well, you know, I, uh, on the over the weekend, I was with, uh, it was me, Artie, Ariana,

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Belle, and Ash from the cable management, uh, video that we did.

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Okay. We opened a bunch of packs. I think it was like 300 packs between all five of us.

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That's, uh, it sounds laborious. I lost a lot of money that day.

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You know, Belle? Oh my God. Okay.

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I got a rant. Okay. I got a lot of cards.

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Every, and he's opened it three times. And three times he hit, he's hit the most like the best cards.

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I get, I'm like, that should be me.

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I'm happy for him, but I'm like, that should be me.

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Gambling. It's just gambling. It's legal gambling.

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I'm running into this kind of stuff so often.

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I'm on here. I'm going to read chat while you guys are talking.

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So I log in. Why are you doing this the wrong way?

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Why are you doing it the wrong way? So there's my thing.

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I am now logged in. Right?

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Cool. Am I logged in?

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Not to the browser extension.

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Well, why didn't it work?

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Literally reloads this page. Why would it do that? I don't know.

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I've never experienced this, but log into the extension.

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Why would it give me a prompt that doesn't work? Why is this not working?

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I'm actually going to lose it over all my multi-factor crap

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not working. No one else has ever reported this ever.

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I think you need to get rid of your extension and get another one,

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because I've never seen that just not work. Seriously, last night I was trying to do WAN topics,

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and I couldn't log into, I forget, something.

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I was just in a stupid loop like this. I can't deal with this.

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I need everything to just go back to two-factor or something,

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because I cannot deal with this.

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So how's everyone's day? My day was good.

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It's a makeup. They got a lot of work done.

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We got a custom PC we did a short for.

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That was fun. It's pretty cool.

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It doesn't matter. I can just copy-paste it from the...

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But now you need to get your extension back again.

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Oh, you deleted my... Yeah, of course, it wasn't working.

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It takes like three seconds to get it back. I could have done it if you didn't take the laptop.

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You know when your friends are fighting? Also, you need to report this stuff,

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instead of just crashing out about it forever. So when you have two friends fighting,

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just like in the corners, dang, they're awkwardly. This is what it feels like right now.

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That's what it felt like.

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Why are TabKeeper, TimeKeeper, and ColorKeeper

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the only hours complete, instead of just Keeper?

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I'm searching for literally Keeper. You think it's funnier that Fathi's off camera

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and yelling like this? Oh, yeah, sure.

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There's another Keeper around your bookkeeping business.

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Keeper Bookkeeping. It makes sense. Keeper.

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Like BookKeeper. Keeper, I barely know her.

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Ding it, ding it. Yay!

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Dopamine is flowing. He's never gonna open the Pokemon card back again.

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It's like a check-off dog. Just say check-off dog.

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I knew what he meant. Wait, no, wait, is that wrong?

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I knew what he meant. Is that wrong?

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Check-off dog, sorry. Just keep saying check-off dog.

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Check-off gun, sorry. Check-off is Star Trek.

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Like Anakin Skywalker? Sorry, I just made everyone mad.

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Sorry, sorry. You're not sorry.

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Guys, I know what Star Wars is.

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I'll take another sci-fi one. It's taking me to a project thing.

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Yeah, well, it sucks to suck. I swear to God,

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I have an impromptu topic. For which?

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For my Keeper 2 update. Never had it happen.

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I have an impromptu topic. Actually, that's not true.

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It literally prompts me every single time. I think it's supposed to for admins.

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Is there even a checkbox to do it every 30 days for a Keeper? For admins, yes.

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For admins, yes, there's a checkbox? Why would we have a checkbox

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in order to be evil? Sorry.

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It's a dropdown, not a checkbox. Yeah.

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But I think if you're switching between devices, it will...

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I have an impromptu topic. What's up?

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I switched to an iPhone after being an Android user. How was it?

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Nice. It's very confusing.

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I got used to it. I tried AirDrop, but like whoa.

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Android phones have been feeling not good

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for a while. Especially as a pixel boy.

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I really don't want to switch to Samsung. I do not like the Samsung experience.

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So I've been thinking like do I finally need to jump over?

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And then every time I use an iPhone, I'm like ugh, no.

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But I don't... It's hard to tell do I actually dislike

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the experience or is it just strange?

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Because I've used Android for so long.

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I think the hurdle was the back button. Because when you YouTube me,

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it goes like the 16 by 9. And then we try to leave it.

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You click the back button for iPhone. I don't have...

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I don't do buttons. I do gestures. What?

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Yeah, I'm a gesture guy. And it goes away?

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No. Like back, no.

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I just swipe in from the side and it goes back. What? You're doing the pretending

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that you don't know what you're talking about. I know.

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Rough. I know.

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Never go full ignorant. I know for Instagram, there's like a tongue

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gesture. I don't know. Someone figured out. There's like a whole gesture.

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See I'm on that video. Okay.

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What? That's it. Way easier. Do you have three button

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gesture? Hold on. I got to open my office

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application. Hold on.

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What? What?

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Swipe down from the top? Yeah, it's like this.

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Swipe down from the... You can only swipe back from the right on Android.

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On iOS, you have to do it from the left. Back?

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No, it just goes away. It swipes back from the left on iOS?

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Natural scrolling. Not very intuitive.

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You want it to be on the left, unless you're left-handed.

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Because that's the way Lord Jobs decreed it should be thusly done.

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And you can go back on Android from either side.

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I know, but you can't on iOS. See this is why I don't

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really want to switch to the iPhone. Can you swap the three

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button navigation backwards on iPhone?

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Like long after Jobs died. Exactly.

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I don't really... It smells like cookie right here.

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Dinner. No, I'm just teasing.

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Ghosts. I like cookies.

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Luke, ready to do this thing? Oh, wait.

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Yeah, I'm fine. It's welcome to the WAN Show.

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We got loads. We got fun and games.

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We got a lot of topics here for you today. Yeah, sure.

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We got a lot of topics. Energy.

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Energy and don't slow down. So it's not...

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Welcome... Welcome to the WAN Show, everybody.

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We got some exciting topics here for you today. And just don't stop.

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Find a word to put there. Remember that Linus would make sure

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that he fills as much airtime as possible. So just don't stop talking.

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Until the intro goes. Linus, keep looking. I'm getting nervous.

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You can also interrupt me? No, you have to.

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How do I interrupt you? Just start talking over me.

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Oh, okay. Wait, wait.

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Do we want to say when we're swapping? He can't do it. He waits until you're done.

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He's so nice. I'm the nice Linus.

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I'm the considered Linus, you know? Okay, ready?

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Are you ready to do this thing, Luke? We gotta hit it at some point.

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Oh, my God. Are you going to signal him?

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Yeah.

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Welcome to the WAN Show, everybody. Oh, you looked at me.

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Welcome to the WAN Show, everybody. We got lots of topics here for you today.

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Luke, house robots are almost here. That's kind of crazy, no?

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Yeah. And you two is bringing updates.

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Surely that will go great, right? Probably not.

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Also, we've got Mark Andreessen funding

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AI-powered AstroTurfing because we needed more bad things

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in the world, I guess. And Nintendo may have lost a key

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patent in Japan. That's crazy.

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You know what else is crazy? This is the intro from Noki.

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Hmm. Hmm.

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Hmm. Hmm.

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Hmm. Hmm.

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Hmm. Hmm.

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Hmm. Hmm.

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Hmm. Hmm.

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the WAN doc with you guys and enjoy all these wonderful topics. Yeah. Why don't we kick things right

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off with the big YouTube news this week?

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How do they manage to do this? It's almost like they try

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to make the most unpopular possible decisions. I mean, we had that one

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thing recently where I was like, oh, that seems pretty cool where they had the AI

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powered likeness recognition so you could opt out of having

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AI slop using your likeness all over the platform. That was cool. That seems pretty

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cool. That seemed like objectively good. And then they followed up with

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a triple whammy worth of updates and policy changes with

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an AI super resolution upscaler

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that's planned to be applied to all videos under 1080p

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Oh, was it all videos or all live streams? Okay, I seem to remember

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seeing an email about live streams, but this says videos, so that's interesting

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as well as a crackdown on both violent video games

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and gambling content. This expanded

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crackdown, which goes into effect November 17th, is paired

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with more stringent age verification will prohibit content

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that directs viewers to online gambling sites which now includes digital goods

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gambling like video game skins, cosmetics and NFTs, and YouTube

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will also be age restricting casino style games without

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real world monetary value.

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Big G is also adding broader criteria for violent

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video game content that will be age restricted such as scenes of torture

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or mass violence against non-combatants. So this

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is a whole bunch to unpack. Let's start with the stuff that I

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wholeheartedly agree with. YouTube does not need

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to direct people to online gambling sites. If anything, I think the professional

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sports space could stand to learn a little bit from YouTube here.

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Has YouTube not been taking advertising from gambling sites? See, they have, which is why

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I'm finding the whole thing kind of confusing, so rules for thee and not for me.

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Yeah. But can I just take this as a small

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I don't think so. It's not really a win, is it? It really feels like maybe they're just trying

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to take all the pie from gambling site funding.

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Right. Right. But from which country? All of them.

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Is it American Pie? Is it?

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Also, I'm just recognizing that you don't have a Halloween costume

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which is a Halloween costume because other people dressed up as you. So if you

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dressed up in a Halloween costume, we'd actually kind of screw the whole thing up, which is like the most amazing

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loophole ever. And I'm just, I think

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very good. I went as a tech YouTuber.

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There you go. Okay. Yeah.

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And then so we've also got the bit where you're not allowed to direct viewers.

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So yeah, you can't direct viewers to online gambling sites, which now includes

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video game skins, cosmetics and NFTs. I mean,

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oh man, how do we, okay, because I do,

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I actually do support that because it was clear that nobody else

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was going to do anything about it. And so it feels like

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for YouTube to step in and go, yeah, no, you actually can't do that.

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I like that. I also honestly really like the idea

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of age-restricting casino-style games, even if they don't have real-world

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monetary value. I do think that there's a level of extreme

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that's not necessary. Like, I don't know if you remember this, but a little while back there was some

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controversy around, like, even Pokemon Blue getting banned

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somewhere because there was the casino. Has a casino in it.

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Seems a little much. Yeah, that seems a little bit much. It's not a core mechanic.

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If I remember correctly, I would just skip it every single time.

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Yeah, because you lose all your money. Yeah. But like

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in general, I think I've spoken extensively enough in the past

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about my frustration with gambling mechanics being introduced

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to children in everywhere from video games

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to real-world settings. Like, the collectibles.

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Yeah, happy meals, even arcades, right? Like, you think you're playing

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a game of skill, what you're actually playing is a game of chance, and you are

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putting in a whole bunch of money, then at the end you get a little dopamine rush, you know,

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barrel of monkeys or whatever toy and you go, wow, I won!

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But what you actually did was lose. Like, I've had to have that conversation with my kids

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where they go, oh yeah, the best deal in the Castle Fun Park

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prize bin is this or this. I'm like, actually the best deal

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is if mommy and daddy had just spent the money that we spent on these gambling games

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and just bought you a barrel of monkeys.

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But of course, you know, that wouldn't have been as fun.

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We just need to recognize it for what it is. Paying an amount of money

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to have the amount of fun that was playing these games. The prize is not a prize,

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it's a sucker prize. Which sometimes is a sucker

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if you like lollies. Which could be alright. Candy!

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Ooh. Ooh.

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Ugh. Anyway,

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does anybody know if

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YouTube does allow gambling ads on the site?

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I don't, I have YouTube premiums so I wouldn't really see stuff like that.

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Yeah, me too. Do you get ads for like, I don't know

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what's a gambling thing? Poker stars, is that still a thing? I have no idea.

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I have no idea. What's one of the sports ones? Sports betting, I don't know.

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What's, oh okay. Yeah, okay, in Sprel says

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it's all gambling ads. Yeah. They've seen stake ads, seen draft kings,

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oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, draft kings, okay, cool.

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So yeah, man, this does feel a little bit rules for the and not

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for me, but then again it is. Oh yeah, big time. It is...

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Okay. If I can try to

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I don't know, devil's advocate is at the right term for this. Yeah. If I can try to

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vouch for them a little bit, which I don't actually think this is accurate, but if I can,

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maybe they think at least that they can control the narrative

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around their ads more, maybe they can target it to the right

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people, the right people being adults. Maybe they think

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that they can do that stuff a little bit better than creators just

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being unable to because they're just blasting their video out there and then

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you know what, I'm going to take this as a small win still then

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because they could

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they could get even more money because they could sell

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gambling content target, hold up just a second, they could sell

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gambling targeted gambling ads against gambling content

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and there would be more money in it for them if they allowed that content

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to go to the broadest possible audience versus if they restricted it in any way.

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Extremely small W. I'm talking like

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I'm talking like three three point

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on an enlarged sheet of paper like on an industrial printer

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but there is a tiny W in there

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small W. I don't know because I think the gambling content

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still happens because a lot of original back in the day style

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and I'm sure this still happens creator monetization

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was gambling sites giving people a ton of

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money to gamble on their site

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so it was like in a lot of cases undisclosed sponsorship

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effectively and then actual just sponsorship. What they're

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cracking down on is linking not making that content I believe

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digital goods blah blah blah which will prohibit content that directs viewers to it

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directs viewers but they will also age restrict casino style

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games without real-world monetary value so it could still have

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real-world monetary value if it was a real casino

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and they're only actually restricting you from linking to it

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so my interpretation

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you can still make that content you just can't link to the site

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that you're playing on

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does it say link or direct it says directs

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strength and approach I'm going to bring up the original source

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prohibits content that directs viewers to online gambling sites

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or applications that are not certified by Google so yeah it comes down to them

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certified by Google is very different wording than what we had in the in the doc

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including digital goods yep yep yep yep

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social casino content okay

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yeah yeah it's I gotta be honest with you

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it's pretty it's pretty hand-wavy

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it seems like there's a lot of room for interpretation

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here which it's gonna have to be is in their defense

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yeah it's pretty much what you have to do when you create site guidelines I mean

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this is not a law right Google is not the law

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and if you make it super specific people will just

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work around it it happened to twitch and they just became a laughing stock

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you like have to do it vaguely unfortunately

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so we'll see what that actually turns into the violence NVIDIA game one is

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interesting so that one I wanted to unpack a little bit separately

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sure let's move on to it you know what you're right yep let's talk about I saw some speculation online

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that this was preemptive for the GTA 6 launch

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oh which actually yeah I had basically the same reaction

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of like interesting because you know there's gonna be an insane flood

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of content whether I mean it's probably gonna be good but rather the game is good

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or not an incredible amount of people will play it and there will be an incredible amount of content

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made about it yeah and a lot of it will probably include scenes of

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doing things to NPCs that could constitute

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well pretty much for mass violence against non-combatants yeah

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honestly everything there will also be gambling

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there will also be the skins there also be like literally everything in this update

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will have something to do with GTA

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oh that actually that actually makes a ton of sense

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who knows but I saw that idea and it seemed super legit to me

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it also could just be something that's been on the docket basically

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forever and waiting for a quiet moment to just

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kind of make these changes and and roll them out

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I was not expecting this to ever happen and I gotta

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tell you some of our content would fall under these

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guidelines as potentially being age-gated which

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is sort of a downer because this is the next section

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what this means for you and your content content

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uploaded before November 17th 2025 that violates these guidelines maybe

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removed or age restricted but will not result in a strike

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remember age restricted videos can stay on your channel

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for 18 plus audiences

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so I tend to what content do you think would get

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whenever we fire up cyberpunk just as like a benchmark I tend

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to play karma get in

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because then I don't have to aim and we can just kind of

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you know rip around in the city and and it attracts the police

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which gives me an opportunity to get into a firefight like it just is it's kind of

00:33:24.000 --> 00:33:28.000
it's not necessarily a scene of torture but it's definitely mass violence against non-combatants

00:33:28.000 --> 00:33:32.000
yeah it really is isn't it see I always thought of them as just sort of digital

00:33:32.000 --> 00:33:36.000
pixels I didn't really you know think it mattered

00:33:36.000 --> 00:33:40.000
non-combatant yeah yeah um so this could

00:33:40.000 --> 00:33:44.000
affect a not totally insignificant number of our older videos

00:33:44.000 --> 00:33:48.000
you should you should find a like

00:33:48.000 --> 00:33:52.000
generic clip of like some like

00:33:52.000 --> 00:33:56.000
I don't know what's that there was some like terrible flash game back in the day

00:33:56.000 --> 00:34:00.000
where you took care of like horses you just like brushed horses

00:34:00.000 --> 00:34:04.000
you should get like footage of that it's like every every

00:34:04.000 --> 00:34:08.000
time you go to carve again it's free it just like covers the screen with

00:34:10.000 --> 00:34:12.000
YouTube YouTube appropriate content

00:34:14.000 --> 00:34:18.000
yeah I don't know so you can make edits

00:34:18.000 --> 00:34:22.000
YouTube does have their built-in

00:34:22.000 --> 00:34:26.000
video editor tool you can use to trim or blur the footage

00:34:26.000 --> 00:34:30.000
but you'd have to make any changes before November 17th

00:34:30.000 --> 00:34:34.000
so we would have to find whatever videos have this we'd have to go in and I think realistically

00:34:34.000 --> 00:34:38.000
I'm just gonna not bother and then anything that they flag on us

00:34:38.000 --> 00:34:42.000
we're just going to appeal and then fix in the meantime and then we'll

00:34:42.000 --> 00:34:46.000
hopefully sort it out that way there are some

00:34:46.000 --> 00:34:50.000
there are some sort of guidelines that they use to determine

00:34:50.000 --> 00:34:54.000
whether it's violative of their policy so the duration matters

00:34:54.000 --> 00:34:58.000
if the graphic scene is sustained rather than fleeting

00:34:58.000 --> 00:35:02.000
so for compilation videos they will now consider the cumulative

00:35:02.000 --> 00:35:06.000
duration of all the graphic clips combined okay and then there's

00:35:06.000 --> 00:35:10.000
prominence so if the violent imagery is zoomed in

00:35:10.000 --> 00:35:14.000
or is the main focus of the scene and this one bones me a little

00:35:14.000 --> 00:35:18.000
if they're if it's against realistic human characters

00:35:18.000 --> 00:35:22.000
yeah it's a small portion of the video though

00:35:22.000 --> 00:35:26.000
yeah so maybe you've got some credit there yep some social credit

00:35:26.000 --> 00:35:30.000
you know I was just in China so I had

00:35:30.000 --> 00:35:34.000
social credit on the mind here I found a YouTube YouTube acceptable

00:35:34.000 --> 00:35:38.000
game you just run around you collect carrots

00:35:38.000 --> 00:35:42.000
jump we did it

00:35:42.000 --> 00:35:46.000
yeah oh wait

00:35:46.000 --> 00:35:50.000
more carrots jump I'm gonna

00:35:50.000 --> 00:35:54.000
oh no I made it I actually don't think this is acceptable

00:35:54.000 --> 00:35:58.000
I learned recently visiting the bunny cafe in Vancouver with my daughter

00:35:58.000 --> 00:36:02.000
that carrots are actually too sweet for bunnies are they too sweet for horses

00:36:02.000 --> 00:36:06.000
not healthy so

00:36:06.000 --> 00:36:10.000
no what are they supposed to eat no good root vegetables

00:36:10.000 --> 00:36:14.000
ok probably other things

00:36:14.000 --> 00:36:18.000
but they said carrots are too sweet not good for them there are bunny cafes

00:36:18.000 --> 00:36:22.000
yes there are bunny cafes this one's not one of the depressing ones

00:36:22.000 --> 00:36:26.000
where like the animals are abused and stuff though they work as

00:36:26.000 --> 00:36:30.000
like a shelter and re-homing service so when you go in

00:36:30.000 --> 00:36:34.000
all of the bunnies that are in there can be adopted which is pretty cool

00:36:34.000 --> 00:36:38.000
so I don't remember what it's called I feel like

00:36:38.000 --> 00:36:42.000
I should look it up now but it's like the bunny cafe in Vancouver

00:36:42.000 --> 00:36:46.000
carrots seem to be good for horses oh that's nice it's called the bunny cafe

00:36:46.000 --> 00:36:50.000
oh fantastic 1696 Venables street there you go bunny cafe

00:36:50.000 --> 00:36:54.000
pretty chill they seem like cool people I've never

00:36:54.000 --> 00:36:58.000
been to a cat cafe because I live in one stale

00:36:58.000 --> 00:37:02.000
disc it asked we have four cats living

00:37:02.000 --> 00:37:06.000
in our house right now does a Vaughan drink coffee

00:37:06.000 --> 00:37:10.000
say then neither of you drink coffee we have coffee

00:37:10.000 --> 00:37:14.000
just in case someone visits I mean technically you walk into a Starbucks

00:37:14.000 --> 00:37:18.000
nobody's actually drinking coffee is it still a cafe I say yes

00:37:18.000 --> 00:37:22.000
well because they have coffee so they have coffee having coffee

00:37:22.000 --> 00:37:26.000
yeah sure we have coffee fair enough got him

00:37:26.000 --> 00:37:30.000
okay we do have some now I get to tell

00:37:30.000 --> 00:37:34.000
the local government about Linus's illegal cafe business in his house would you like

00:37:34.000 --> 00:37:38.000
to watch the TechLinked example of the AI sharpening

00:37:38.000 --> 00:37:42.000
so the super resolution upscaler absolutely all right

00:37:42.000 --> 00:37:46.000
here we go can we see this yeah well I hope so

00:37:46.000 --> 00:37:50.000
that's fine I don't think we need audio it's more of a visual experience

00:37:50.000 --> 00:37:54.000
oh my god is it a visual experience Linus

00:37:54.000 --> 00:37:58.000
it's a visual experience what am I even watching to add for

00:37:58.000 --> 00:38:02.000
nope okay so hold on a second

00:38:02.000 --> 00:38:06.000
first things first oh is this just the same thing that we saw

00:38:06.000 --> 00:38:10.000
months ago that Riley talked about months ago

00:38:10.000 --> 00:38:14.000
is this months ago yeah hold on

00:38:14.000 --> 00:38:18.000
hold on that's not what I thought this was I assumed this was different

00:38:18.000 --> 00:38:22.000
hopped out AI super resolves all videos under 1080p

00:38:22.000 --> 00:38:26.000
as well as a crackdown hold on hold on okay

00:38:26.000 --> 00:38:30.000
I need to double check something to make sure that I don't say something

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that I can't say

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youtube debuts AI enhanced super resolution

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for low res videos blah blah blah

00:38:44.000 --> 00:38:48.000
high resolution derivatives blah blah blah will clearly indicate them as

00:38:48.000 --> 00:38:52.000
super resolution leaving the originals intact

00:38:52.000 --> 00:38:56.000
okay in the case of offending videos

00:38:56.000 --> 00:38:58.000
creators can opt out

00:39:00.000 --> 00:39:04.000
okay blah blah blah so youtube produces additional HD copies

00:39:04.000 --> 00:39:08.000
of a low res source of material gives you the option of using them in the quality menu

00:39:08.000 --> 00:39:12.000
next to the originals so no my understanding is that this is not

00:39:12.000 --> 00:39:16.000
shorts directed it may be using the same technology

00:39:16.000 --> 00:39:20.000
which is maybe why Riley linked it like that

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but it will look like this so we may have to go

00:39:24.000 --> 00:39:28.000
source ourselves a new example of this

00:39:28.000 --> 00:39:32.000
and maybe we could try charlie bit my finger and see if it has been

00:39:32.000 --> 00:39:36.000
if it has been AI super resolution

00:39:36.000 --> 00:39:40.000
you could try that one too that would be a great

00:39:40.000 --> 00:39:44.000
example of something that might have a thing

00:39:44.000 --> 00:39:48.000
charlie bit my finger original does not

00:39:48.000 --> 00:39:52.000
have any super resolution alright if anyone finds one

00:39:52.000 --> 00:39:56.000
go ahead and throw it in the chat and then we can have a look at it after

00:39:56.000 --> 00:40:00.000
is it rolled out already or are they just saying they're going to roll it out

00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:04.000
youtube debuts yeah has anyone else

00:40:04.000 --> 00:40:08.000
actually seen it is there a time frame for this

00:40:10.000 --> 00:40:12.000
I mean they definitely rolled it out on shorts

00:40:14.000 --> 00:40:18.000
there's going to be a lot of content that is not

00:40:18.000 --> 00:40:22.000
going to benefit too much from this like any kind of pixel art

00:40:22.000 --> 00:40:26.000
style gaming videos I don't think anyone has seen it

00:40:26.000 --> 00:40:30.000
I don't think it's really out much yet or if at all

00:40:30.000 --> 00:40:32.000
oh hold on a second

00:40:36.000 --> 00:40:40.000
okay this there's no way that this doesn't have it

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no no

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no no

00:40:56.000 --> 00:41:00.000
what someone linked the old badger badger

00:41:00.000 --> 00:41:04.000
badger song and I was like oh no way like that one has it

00:41:04.000 --> 00:41:08.000
so I'm going to go check and no they just linked it for fun I think

00:41:08.000 --> 00:41:12.000
nice it doesn't have there's no it's just like auto 240

00:41:12.000 --> 00:41:16.000
and 144 alright well it was worth a shot

00:41:16.000 --> 00:41:20.000
whoa hold on when bingo chronified says charlie bit my finger has it

00:41:20.000 --> 00:41:24.000
for me okay so it's a it's a user rollout

00:41:24.000 --> 00:41:28.000
thing oh that's a bomber

00:41:28.000 --> 00:41:32.000
hold on a second they sent two links oh

00:41:32.000 --> 00:41:36.000
imager link here we go yeah

00:41:36.000 --> 00:41:40.000
so that's what that's what it looks like for you hey

00:41:40.000 --> 00:41:44.000
interesting that the even lower ones don't have it trays and

00:41:44.000 --> 00:41:48.000
terrace on do we have like a

00:41:48.000 --> 00:41:50.000
side by side

00:41:52.000 --> 00:41:56.000
how to this one

00:41:56.000 --> 00:42:00.000
of course it is because of course it is thank you for that very

00:42:00.000 --> 00:42:04.000
useless also this is already a 4k remaster

00:42:04.000 --> 00:42:08.000
so there would be no need for them to upscale it again

00:42:10.000 --> 00:42:14.000
man it's been a while it's been a while since anyone has

00:42:14.000 --> 00:42:18.000
helpfully linked that particular absolute banger

00:42:18.000 --> 00:42:20.000
of a music video

00:42:22.000 --> 00:42:26.000
I think we can move on now it is kind of a banger isn't it

00:42:26.000 --> 00:42:30.000
so solidly good song oh yeah no no doubt yeah absolutely

00:42:30.000 --> 00:42:34.000
love it and wholesome too you know like

00:42:34.000 --> 00:42:38.000
yeah yeah yeah

00:42:38.000 --> 00:42:42.000
like why do songs about you know being attracted to members of the opposite

00:42:42.000 --> 00:42:46.000
sex have to be all you know

00:42:46.000 --> 00:42:50.000
vulgar are the same sex ones not vulgar

00:42:52.000 --> 00:42:56.000
I mean not inherently no they're not

00:42:56.000 --> 00:43:00.000
no why because why do you single out opposite sex

00:43:00.000 --> 00:43:04.000
well because that's what never gonna give you up is about I assume there's a lady

00:43:04.000 --> 00:43:08.000
in the video sure yeah

00:43:08.000 --> 00:43:12.000
I just don't know the difference well no I'm just I'm contrasting

00:43:12.000 --> 00:43:16.000
you know songs about bitches and like

00:43:18.000 --> 00:43:22.000
but what if it is a what if it is a lesbian

00:43:22.000 --> 00:43:26.000
singing about bitches that well that's suddenly

00:43:26.000 --> 00:43:30.000
totally chill I think they're allowed to do that

00:43:30.000 --> 00:43:34.000
what I I'm not taking a position here

00:43:34.000 --> 00:43:38.000
I think you are well is it on the bottom or top

00:43:42.000 --> 00:43:46.000
okay we should we should probably move on

00:43:46.000 --> 00:43:50.000
oh what

00:43:50.000 --> 00:43:54.000
next position yeah I mean there's a lot more

00:43:54.000 --> 00:43:58.000
discussion topics on this one actually like there's

00:43:58.000 --> 00:44:02.000
there's where's the line between you know

00:44:02.000 --> 00:44:06.000
do you think strict online age verification is a long-term solution

00:44:06.000 --> 00:44:10.000
is the cost of privacy worth protecting our children I mean

00:44:10.000 --> 00:44:14.000
if I thought they could do it effectively and safely and maintain

00:44:14.000 --> 00:44:18.000
privacy and and not have all this data leak

00:44:18.000 --> 00:44:22.000
no I don't think it would I don't think I would mind it actually I

00:44:22.000 --> 00:44:26.000
wouldn't mind age gating things like

00:44:26.000 --> 00:44:30.000
to me it's not really any different than them checking ID

00:44:30.000 --> 00:44:34.000
at the at the ticket counter of a movie yeah like I know I know but I don't

00:44:34.000 --> 00:44:38.000
trust them I know the the senior sides of the internet

00:44:38.000 --> 00:44:42.000
have been available to us since effectively the beginning of the internet

00:44:42.000 --> 00:44:46.000
some of the oldest parts of the internet are

00:44:46.000 --> 00:44:50.000
very not safe for work I don't think they're that old

00:44:54.000 --> 00:44:58.000
those jokes we've got to stop gonna wear out the button

00:44:58.000 --> 00:45:00.000
it's not a joke

00:45:04.000 --> 00:45:08.000
okay where was I going with this

00:45:08.000 --> 00:45:12.000
right but before it

00:45:14.000 --> 00:45:18.000
like in my experience you had to be pretty deliberate about seeking it out

00:45:18.000 --> 00:45:22.000
and now it's a lot easier now now it's just there

00:45:22.000 --> 00:45:26.000
like you almost can't be on most

00:45:26.000 --> 00:45:30.000
parts of the internet anymore without it being shoved in your face

00:45:36.000 --> 00:45:40.000
and it's it's pretty nuts so like

00:45:40.000 --> 00:45:44.000
yeah I don't know in general at least

00:45:44.000 --> 00:45:46.000
a like heavily filtered mode

00:45:48.000 --> 00:45:52.000
because you know the kids are gonna get around it but if it wasn't just like passively there

00:45:52.000 --> 00:45:56.000
all the time that would probably be better and I mean our next question actually

00:45:56.000 --> 00:46:00.000
this has been very top of mind for me I just like I said I just got back from China

00:46:00.000 --> 00:46:04.000
and they have a very

00:46:04.000 --> 00:46:08.000
different approach to the tobacco industry than we do here in Canada

00:46:08.000 --> 00:46:12.000
so I was chatting with Sharad from the business team about it

00:46:12.000 --> 00:46:16.000
a fair bit because apparently a pretty popular thing to do when you go to China

00:46:16.000 --> 00:46:20.000
is to load up on your your allowance of flavored

00:46:20.000 --> 00:46:24.000
cigarettes and bring them back because they've been banned here for

00:46:24.000 --> 00:46:28.000
I don't think they lasted very long like I have no idea

00:46:28.000 --> 00:46:32.000
yeah flavored cigarettes I think were a thing here for a little while

00:46:32.000 --> 00:46:36.000
but they basically went away because it was

00:46:36.000 --> 00:46:40.000
determined that they were much more appealing to kids I mean adults

00:46:40.000 --> 00:46:44.000
like flavored things too but it was more of a concern about thinking of the children

00:46:44.000 --> 00:46:48.000
adult flavored things and

00:46:48.000 --> 00:46:52.000
they had like all kinds of

00:46:52.000 --> 00:46:56.000
cigarette innovations like I'm a non-smoker so

00:46:56.000 --> 00:47:00.000
to me it's like oh yeah interesting like I'm not gonna smoke them but I'm like oh that's

00:47:00.000 --> 00:47:04.000
pretty clever if you wanted people to smoke more like there was one

00:47:04.000 --> 00:47:08.000
that they had that had so I learned how flavored cigarettes work

00:47:08.000 --> 00:47:12.000
didn't know that before so they have a little gel in them

00:47:12.000 --> 00:47:16.000
like I assumed that the tobacco itself would be infused with

00:47:16.000 --> 00:47:20.000
sure some kind of I probably would have assumed the same flavor so that when you burn it it like

00:47:20.000 --> 00:47:24.000
something like a candle I don't know sure like the the fuel of the fire

00:47:24.000 --> 00:47:28.000
would have been somehow soaked in it or something I don't know but no

00:47:28.000 --> 00:47:32.000
apparently that's not how it works you just have like normal tobacco and then you have like a gel bead

00:47:32.000 --> 00:47:36.000
that you like squish and then as you're inhaling

00:47:36.000 --> 00:47:40.000
bringing it through the filter or whatever yeah then it sure so they had this one that seemed

00:47:40.000 --> 00:47:44.000
to have like multiple gel gels in it

00:47:44.000 --> 00:47:48.000
so that you could create different combinations of flavors and I'm just like

00:47:50.000 --> 00:47:54.000
freaking what I mean cool idea I guess

00:47:54.000 --> 00:47:58.000
like I said if you're trying to get people to smoke more

00:48:00.000 --> 00:48:04.000
and they had like this like charade was

00:48:04.000 --> 00:48:08.000
collecting like cool packages so there was this flying horse one

00:48:08.000 --> 00:48:12.000
that's from some meme like if smoking so bad why is the horse

00:48:12.000 --> 00:48:16.000
so happy or something like that I don't know there was some he was explaining it to me he's

00:48:16.000 --> 00:48:20.000
he's very into the memes let's put it that way and

00:48:20.000 --> 00:48:24.000
and so he like got this pack of like blue flying

00:48:24.000 --> 00:48:28.000
horse I don't really want to share it on screen but I am trying to look it up

00:48:28.000 --> 00:48:32.000
yeah yeah the top left top left right there

00:48:32.000 --> 00:48:34.000
now it's fine we can just show the people there adults

00:48:36.000 --> 00:48:40.000
if cigarette bad why horse happy checkmate liberals so he was

00:48:40.000 --> 00:48:44.000
so we went on a mission to find these cigarettes

00:48:44.000 --> 00:48:48.000
with the flying horse on them and it made me

00:48:48.000 --> 00:48:52.000
sort of it really just made it impossible for me to not notice

00:48:52.000 --> 00:48:56.000
the contrast between their approach which is

00:48:56.000 --> 00:49:00.000
seems to be pretty much have at it versus

00:49:00.000 --> 00:49:04.000
here in Canada charade was telling me that

00:49:04.000 --> 00:49:08.000
they're not even allowed to like brand them anymore like never mind getting rid of

00:49:08.000 --> 00:49:12.000
Joe camel like they're allowed to say what the brand is

00:49:12.000 --> 00:49:16.000
but they're not allowed to have flying horses on them they're not allowed to have

00:49:16.000 --> 00:49:20.000
pretty elegant looking ladies smoking on them or you know anything like that

00:49:20.000 --> 00:49:24.000
yeah and and they have just like the you know gross out

00:49:24.000 --> 00:49:26.000
nastiest pictures on them because

00:49:28.000 --> 00:49:32.000
you know we have socialized healthcare so

00:49:32.000 --> 00:49:36.000
you know we literally all pay for people's

00:49:36.000 --> 00:49:40.000
vices collectively which incentivize the government very strongly

00:49:40.000 --> 00:49:44.000
to advise people that hey they probably shouldn't do things that are

00:49:44.000 --> 00:49:48.000
extremely harmful and extremely expensive to treat I've always been really fascinated

00:49:48.000 --> 00:49:52.000
how the smoke break became a thing at workplaces

00:49:54.000 --> 00:49:58.000
no comment maybe not a topic we want to dive into but that has always been like

00:49:58.000 --> 00:50:02.000
genuinely fascinated me that that became a thing yeah no it's it's mandated

00:50:02.000 --> 00:50:06.000
so like our how our workplace

00:50:06.000 --> 00:50:10.000
employment code or whatever you have to have like there's certain like

00:50:10.000 --> 00:50:14.000
mandated break allowances and I think it's

00:50:14.000 --> 00:50:18.000
been revised since then but my understanding

00:50:18.000 --> 00:50:22.000
was at some point the cigarette break was specifically

00:50:22.000 --> 00:50:26.000
for cigarettes and if you were a non-smoker you just didn't get it yeah

00:50:26.000 --> 00:50:30.000
but I believe when I worked at the bread factory that was the rule yeah I

00:50:30.000 --> 00:50:34.000
believe everybody gets the the 15 minute breaks or

00:50:34.000 --> 00:50:38.000
whatever they are now don't don't quote me on that I don't work in a in the HR department

00:50:38.000 --> 00:50:42.000
so anyone from LMG is watching talk to HR

00:50:42.000 --> 00:50:46.000
before you start randomly taking I haven't looked into it in years the 15

00:50:46.000 --> 00:50:50.000
minute breaks last time I heard were like

00:50:50.000 --> 00:50:54.000
approval basis and

00:50:54.000 --> 00:50:58.000
yeah I know way back in the day it's very likely changed by now but when I used to work at the

00:50:58.000 --> 00:51:02.000
bread factory I remember complaining to management because I couldn't take

00:51:02.000 --> 00:51:06.000
15 minute breaks because I didn't smoke and I was like this seems

00:51:06.000 --> 00:51:10.000
very backwards I don't even necessarily like care about taking the break

00:51:10.000 --> 00:51:14.000
that's fine but like the fact that there is a benefit if you are a smoker is

00:51:14.000 --> 00:51:16.000
crazy to me

00:51:18.000 --> 00:51:22.000
so anyway arc the question that prompted me to talk about just noticing

00:51:22.000 --> 00:51:26.000
this difference was should vices like vapes cannabis alcohol gambling etc

00:51:26.000 --> 00:51:30.000
should they be allowed to advertise at all I mean I'll say this much

00:51:30.000 --> 00:51:34.000
I liked watching sports more

00:51:34.000 --> 00:51:38.000
before every flipping stupid ad

00:51:38.000 --> 00:51:42.000
was just and the commentator was talking about it sometimes and stuff I agree

00:51:42.000 --> 00:51:46.000
but at the same time more people watch sports now

00:51:46.000 --> 00:51:50.000
and are maybe more engaged so if you're the company if you're the NFL

00:51:50.000 --> 00:51:54.000
you might want or quite quite famously

00:51:54.000 --> 00:51:58.000
the NBA has talked about it extensively that the viewers are more engaged

00:51:58.000 --> 00:52:02.000
and they spend more and so but then if you're going to make an ends justify

00:52:02.000 --> 00:52:06.000
the means argument shouldn't the ends be something other than more money

00:52:06.000 --> 00:52:10.000
like should there be a more positive

00:52:10.000 --> 00:52:14.000
like society positive end if you're going to ends justify the

00:52:14.000 --> 00:52:18.000
means me on the company will never take that route

00:52:18.000 --> 00:52:22.000
their multi-billion dollar whatever

00:52:22.000 --> 00:52:26.000
NBA is all over the place company there yeah but our question is should they

00:52:26.000 --> 00:52:30.000
be allowed yeah so we're talking on a government stance yeah

00:52:30.000 --> 00:52:34.000
yeah I don't know like it's weird because you get into like free speech stuff and whatnot sure

00:52:34.000 --> 00:52:38.000
yeah I'm just like freedom of you know being a being an adult with

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you know agency I mean I think that's that's something that you know I've

00:52:42.000 --> 00:52:46.000
thought about a lot ever since my sister's passing right like is at the end of the day

00:52:46.000 --> 00:52:50.000
I don't like the decision that she made but if somebody chooses to harm

00:52:50.000 --> 00:52:54.000
their body whether it's harming it just a little bit

00:52:54.000 --> 00:52:58.000
or whether it's harming it an awful lot like

00:52:58.000 --> 00:53:02.000
but then there's like what can you do about it is the argument end right

00:53:02.000 --> 00:53:06.000
because like do you ban snowboarding yeah exactly that's a great point

00:53:06.000 --> 00:53:10.000
do you ban almost every sport it's a great it's a great

00:53:10.000 --> 00:53:12.000
point because

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I mean you can even you could even make

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and I'd say it's a pretty bad faith argument but there

00:53:22.000 --> 00:53:26.000
would be some logical basis to it like you could make an argument

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that sports done excessively can be extremely

00:53:30.000 --> 00:53:34.000
harmful that sports done excessively can cause

00:53:34.000 --> 00:53:38.000
a similar sort of chemical release in your body that

00:53:38.000 --> 00:53:42.000
makes you want to do more and more and more of it and that you can become obsessive

00:53:42.000 --> 00:53:46.000
I mean anything in unhealthy quantities there are some people like that is really bad for you

00:53:46.000 --> 00:53:50.000
there's people that get addicted to working out yeah that can that can show up in bad ways

00:53:50.000 --> 00:53:54.000
100% yeah

00:53:54.000 --> 00:53:58.000
what are you supposed to do ban advertising doing sports should gyms

00:53:58.000 --> 00:54:02.000
not be able to advertise if we're talking about the

00:54:02.000 --> 00:54:06.000
the weight on the medical system as well yeah like my family

00:54:06.000 --> 00:54:10.000
knew how to effectively sneak into the emergency

00:54:10.000 --> 00:54:14.000
wing of the local hospital because we were in there so often that it was just like

00:54:14.000 --> 00:54:18.000
annoying to have to talk to the people and be like yeah we know someone in here we should be able to visit them

00:54:22.000 --> 00:54:26.000
because we did every single sport possibly imaginable so like

00:54:26.000 --> 00:54:28.000
little problems here and there were pretty normal

00:54:32.000 --> 00:54:36.000
just get one of those stamp card things yeah a certain amount of visits

00:54:36.000 --> 00:54:38.000
oh another another leg there bud

00:54:42.000 --> 00:54:46.000
so I don't know but then you know the flip side of it is so again so you know

00:54:46.000 --> 00:54:50.000
where should be the line then should should I have to flip on youtube

00:54:50.000 --> 00:54:54.000
and see a commercial for fentanyl

00:54:54.000 --> 00:54:58.000
right for fent pills

00:54:58.000 --> 00:55:02.000
I have generally enjoyed that the

00:55:02.000 --> 00:55:06.000
I like that it's strange watching tv in the states because we don't have

00:55:06.000 --> 00:55:10.000
the amount of like lawyer and pharmaceutical

00:55:10.000 --> 00:55:14.000
ads that they have down there I like that we don't have those

00:55:14.000 --> 00:55:18.000
I watch their tv and go wow

00:55:18.000 --> 00:55:22.000
I'm happy I don't have these ads not that I exactly watch tv up here either but

00:55:22.000 --> 00:55:24.000
you know what I mean

00:55:28.000 --> 00:55:32.000
some more house hippo less zanax from Dan I agree

00:55:32.000 --> 00:55:36.000
yeah the house hippo was based birdian says I've never seen an ad

00:55:36.000 --> 00:55:40.000
for fent pills no I know it's a hypothetical

00:55:40.000 --> 00:55:44.000
an exaggeration yeah well it's just

00:55:44.000 --> 00:55:48.000
it's demonstrating that at some point

00:55:48.000 --> 00:55:52.000
like I think fundamentally when you really get into it

00:55:52.000 --> 00:55:56.000
even the most anti-regulation person eventually goes oh well

00:55:56.000 --> 00:56:00.000
we should probably regulate that something yeah yeah it's just that

00:56:00.000 --> 00:56:04.000
where you end up in a very difficult conversation sometimes

00:56:04.000 --> 00:56:08.000
is that everyone has the line at a different point like I think

00:56:08.000 --> 00:56:12.000
the vast majority of people should would probably agree

00:56:12.000 --> 00:56:16.000
that you know that like methamphetamine

00:56:16.000 --> 00:56:20.000
probably shouldn't be just you know advertised

00:56:20.000 --> 00:56:24.000
during a sports ball game you know you shouldn't have athletes wearing

00:56:24.000 --> 00:56:28.000
like you know meff4u.com emblems on their helmets

00:56:28.000 --> 00:56:32.000
I'm able to keep playing through the pain because right like

00:56:32.000 --> 00:56:36.000
we could probably all agree that that's not good

00:56:36.000 --> 00:56:40.000
we probably shouldn't do that but then you know you

00:56:40.000 --> 00:56:44.000
end up over over on the flip side where it's just

00:56:44.000 --> 00:56:48.000
I just thought of it totally yeah I don't want to see it

00:56:48.000 --> 00:56:52.000
should I see it who cares

00:56:52.000 --> 00:56:56.000
Germans like long hikes do you want to keep going on long hikes

00:56:56.000 --> 00:56:58.000
that's a reference

00:57:02.000 --> 00:57:06.000
do you want to be able to keep hiking through the night

00:57:08.000 --> 00:57:12.000
okay so anyway um

00:57:14.000 --> 00:57:18.000
yeah uh wow so maybe what we could do

00:57:18.000 --> 00:57:22.000
is a new topic why don't we do that, Luke you want to pick one

00:57:22.000 --> 00:57:26.000
uh Nintendo may have lost a key holiday to Poland

00:57:28.000 --> 00:57:30.000
oh no

00:57:32.000 --> 00:57:36.000
Nintendo may have lost a key it's not funny when you are the next

00:57:36.000 --> 00:57:40.000
Poland yes uh Nintendo may have

00:57:40.000 --> 00:57:44.000
lost a key pokemon capture patent filing in Japan

00:57:44.000 --> 00:57:48.000
we have a bunch of different sources for this uh games fray

00:57:48.000 --> 00:57:52.000
creative block pc gamer games fray reported the jpo

00:57:52.000 --> 00:57:56.000
or the japan patent office has issued an office action

00:57:56.000 --> 00:58:00.000
uh an initial decision against a nintendo patent filing

00:58:00.000 --> 00:58:04.000
related to its action against pal world developer

00:58:04.000 --> 00:58:08.000
pocket pair funny of course their company name is

00:58:08.000 --> 00:58:12.000
even similar um following a third party submission

00:58:12.000 --> 00:58:16.000
of prior art nintendo's filing

00:58:16.000 --> 00:58:20.000
2024-031879 is part of a chain of patents related

00:58:20.000 --> 00:58:24.000
to the capture mechanic uh the capture mechanic

00:58:24.000 --> 00:58:28.000
described as a player character throwing a ball at a character

00:58:28.000 --> 00:58:32.000
in virtual space capturing the character and setting it

00:58:32.000 --> 00:58:36.000
in the player character's possession okay so throwing a pokeball

00:58:36.000 --> 00:58:40.000
basically basically pc gamer described the subject

00:58:40.000 --> 00:58:44.000
of this particular patent as combining third person aiming

00:58:44.000 --> 00:58:48.000
with two modes to throw items that either affect the target character

00:58:48.000 --> 00:58:52.000
like stunning it or capturing it or initiate combat against the target character

00:58:52.000 --> 00:58:56.000
by releasing a creature to battle it which happens in the newer pokemon games

00:58:56.000 --> 00:59:00.000
so pokemon battle the rejected patent isn't directly related

00:59:00.000 --> 00:59:04.000
to the case the child and parent of patents

00:59:04.000 --> 00:59:08.000
that are reference prior art games

00:59:08.000 --> 00:59:12.000
include arc, monster, hunter 4, pocket pairs, craftopia

00:59:12.000 --> 00:59:16.000
and pokemon go okay

00:59:16.000 --> 00:59:20.000
uh the the jpo said nintendo's process lacked

00:59:20.000 --> 00:59:24.000
an inventive step onlookers have complained about the stagnant

00:59:24.000 --> 00:59:28.000
pokemon series since this lawsuit began and just to be very clear

00:59:28.000 --> 00:59:32.000
for many many many years many years before that

00:59:32.000 --> 00:59:36.000
I mean basically since trying to think the first one

00:59:36.000 --> 00:59:40.000
no n64 had that like coliseum battler yeah so that was

00:59:40.000 --> 00:59:44.000
from my stadium yeah that was a little difference thank you coliseum but that's not a mainline game

00:59:44.000 --> 00:59:48.000
I'm just I'm just saying like you know neither would have

00:59:48.000 --> 00:59:52.000
um uh neither would have pal world

00:59:52.000 --> 00:59:56.000
like that wouldn't have necessarily been a mainline game so I'm just that's fair I'm just trying to say like

00:59:56.000 --> 00:59:58.000
that is for for sure fair

01:00:00.000 --> 01:00:04.000
online version of the card game yeah

01:00:04.000 --> 01:00:08.000
I'm I'm trying to throw them a no I'm no yeah you're right I'm trying

01:00:08.000 --> 01:00:12.000
to throw them a bone that's because like the mainline games you always hear the same thing like

01:00:12.000 --> 01:00:16.000
every time I talk to someone about pokemon games like Glenn for instance we were just on that trip

01:00:16.000 --> 01:00:20.000
to Japan together oh I was also in Japan um we're on that trip to Japan together

01:00:20.000 --> 01:00:24.000
and he was playing whatever the latest pokemon was and I was like oh yeah

01:00:24.000 --> 01:00:28.000
I haven't played one since blue and he's like sitting there playing a pokemon game like yeah you haven't

01:00:28.000 --> 01:00:32.000
missed much um yep and that seems to be the general consensus

01:00:32.000 --> 01:00:36.000
but I'm just I'm trying to throw a bone trying to throw a bone no so you're you're right

01:00:36.000 --> 01:00:40.000
I don't know if the online version of the card game counts I don't count either

01:00:40.000 --> 01:00:44.000
but there are a lot of others pokemon snap no there was the detective

01:00:44.000 --> 01:00:48.000
Pikachu uh the movie that was something wasn't a game

01:00:48.000 --> 01:00:52.000
yeah it was good Ryan Reynolds you love to see it

01:00:52.000 --> 01:00:56.000
can movie patents apply to no no no I don't mean from like a patenting standpoint

01:00:56.000 --> 01:01:00.000
I just mean like you know they haven't they haven't because it sounded like you were about

01:01:00.000 --> 01:01:04.000
to get into just like stagnant stagnant pokemon series in general just how utterly stagnant

01:01:04.000 --> 01:01:08.000
it's been but it is it for sure has been yeah

01:01:08.000 --> 01:01:10.000
Ryan Reynolds Canadian treasure

01:01:12.000 --> 01:01:16.000
uh he's been doing mean things for a bit has he hasn't he

01:01:16.000 --> 01:01:20.000
no I thought him and his wife were going after some dude and

01:01:20.000 --> 01:01:24.000
crazy legal fight and something something something am I

01:01:24.000 --> 01:01:28.000
thinking the wrong guy I mean I know that Blake Lively

01:01:28.000 --> 01:01:32.000
has been involved in a lawsuit

01:01:32.000 --> 01:01:36.000
okay me I don't know I don't care dude

01:01:38.000 --> 01:01:42.000
there's so many not okay not only is there just so many controversies

01:01:42.000 --> 01:01:46.000
every day that it's just exhausting to even consider keeping up with

01:01:46.000 --> 01:01:50.000
but that's one that's like not even in our realm that's movie stuff so like

01:01:50.000 --> 01:01:54.000
I don't know I've only heard of this one because

01:01:54.000 --> 01:01:58.000
someone that I know was talking about it and I

01:01:58.000 --> 01:02:02.000
even then it was a lot to care enough to pay attention

01:02:04.000 --> 01:02:06.000
hmm yeah anyways

01:02:08.000 --> 01:02:12.000
earlier this year Nintendo sought to modify another patent related

01:02:12.000 --> 01:02:16.000
to creature riding mid litigation suggesting difficulty

01:02:16.000 --> 01:02:20.000
in proceedings games Frey said litigants

01:02:20.000 --> 01:02:24.000
litigants whatever don't change a patent in the

01:02:24.000 --> 01:02:28.000
middle of an infringement case unless they feel the patent is at a

01:02:28.000 --> 01:02:32.000
fairly high risk of being deemed invalid in its original form

01:02:32.000 --> 01:02:36.000
which does kind of make sense

01:02:36.000 --> 01:02:40.000
discussion question is if Nintendo ultimately loses this lawsuit how does that

01:02:40.000 --> 01:02:44.000
bode for its litigious attitude will it encourage more fighting

01:02:44.000 --> 01:02:48.000
back a significant amount maybe

01:02:48.000 --> 01:02:52.000
oh my I don't think Nintendo will start backing

01:02:52.000 --> 01:02:56.000
down it might be that if they lose this other companies see them

01:02:56.000 --> 01:03:00.000
as less scary therefore will fight more but I don't

01:03:00.000 --> 01:03:04.000
I don't feel like this will slow Nintendo down at all if anything they're just going to try to

01:03:04.000 --> 01:03:08.000
be more buttoned up about things so that they are less

01:03:08.000 --> 01:03:12.000
counterable that's all I would expect would happen

01:03:12.000 --> 01:03:16.000
in summary Blake Lively accuses director Justin

01:03:16.000 --> 01:03:20.000
Baldoni of toxicity on set

01:03:20.000 --> 01:03:24.000
Justin Baldoni counter accuses Blake Lively of being

01:03:24.000 --> 01:03:28.000
toxic on set cool Ryan Reynolds is in Blake Lively's

01:03:28.000 --> 01:03:32.000
corner because she is his wife and

01:03:32.000 --> 01:03:36.000
they have both taken reputational hits over this whole drama

01:03:38.000 --> 01:03:42.000
you're welcome that is celeb linked

01:03:42.000 --> 01:03:46.000
my life is worse for having known that is it really yes worse

01:03:46.000 --> 01:03:50.000
not very measurably okay I was gonna say I

01:03:50.000 --> 01:03:54.000
well okay no I gotta push back on that because by the

01:03:54.000 --> 01:03:58.000
time we talk again next week on show you will not know it anymore

01:03:58.000 --> 01:04:02.000
but there's some other potentially better information that could

01:04:02.000 --> 01:04:06.000
have been put in my head that I would have also forgot by next week

01:04:06.000 --> 01:04:10.000
dude people ask me like hours after when show about something I said on

01:04:10.000 --> 01:04:14.000
show and I'll be like did I okay I don't know

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yeah

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I was so ready for this one you sensed it

01:04:22.000 --> 01:04:26.000
alright what else I sensed is that it's time for us to talk about merge

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messages if you're not familiar you must be new here

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welcome merge messages are our way

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of having you guys interact with the show rather than having

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you donate to people who frankly probably

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statistically speaking don't need it as much as you do or just throw

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money at your screen in hopes that something good might happen

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if you want to interact with the show hey why don't you send a merge

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message all you gotta do is go to LTTstore.com

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and add something to your cart once you add it to your cart

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you will be prompted to leave a merge message

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it will go to producer Dan

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producer Anon excuse me

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who will redirect it to wherever it needs to go or will reply

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to it himself or will just throw it up on screen with a little

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hi mom or whatever or he might if you are really

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lucky curate it and Luke and I will respond to

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your merge message that box is only there when we're live by

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the way before you guys go and send a merge message for today

01:05:38.000 --> 01:05:42.000
why don't we have a look at some of the things that are on the store that's

01:05:42.000 --> 01:05:46.000
right keeping with our halloween spooky theme we are

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bringing some of our most iconic shirt designs back

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from the dead do you need to do like

01:05:54.000 --> 01:05:58.000
a full refresh or something do you oh LMG.gg

01:05:58.000 --> 01:06:02.000
slash greatest hits he's got it

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we're calling it the greatest hits collection five of our best

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selling t-shirts from the last few years reimagined in both

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uh oh oh already

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to update this text to let us know when it's good to go

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in fairness to me it wasn't that red or yellow

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and it wasn't that prominently placed it wasn't that red or yellow

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what do you mean it was exactly that

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I'm being verbally ironic to be fair it is technically an advertisement

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and you didn't see it that is fair

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I'll give him that okay we are going to have to do this later

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later we can still do the merge message

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sure let's do a couple of merge messages Dan hit me I got one for you here

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hey lld this is an aviation systems technician

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in the Canadian armed forces and a helicopter

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pilot am I right

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you're right new autonomous helicopters

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kind of make me worry about the future of the industry would you ever ride

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in an AI helicopter and has new tech ever ruined a passion

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all of them everyone

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I think a lot of ice block enthusiasts probably were pretty

01:07:28.000 --> 01:07:30.000
peeved about the invention of the refrigerator

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yeah people who like we used to have to worry about

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but he said a passion do you think there was ice block

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no yeah well you know what some people get pretty passionate about

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it could be some guy that just feels like he really

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had a good technique really good at cutting them out

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okay I think a better example might be horses in the automobile then

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because people were very passionate about their horses which I totally get

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how about tech shops oh dude

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that's a career and a passion a lot of people get into running a mom and pop tech

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shop because they

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you know want to fix people's computers I had when I was like

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14 that seemed like a very possible vision for my future

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yep not so much pretty tough

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pretty tough business

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what was I gonna say I was gonna say something what topic were we on again

01:08:32.000 --> 01:08:36.000
oh yeah that's right it was a merge message I was gonna get somewhere with this

01:08:36.000 --> 01:08:40.000
hold on where'd it go yeah would you ever ride an AI helicopter

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it seems to me that in terms of like

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handling the inputs and outputs so by inputs I would mean

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things like you know wind direction

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and things like readings off of an altimeter

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I don't even I don't even know if you need AI

01:09:04.000 --> 01:09:08.000
to make a helicopter somewhat autonomous necessarily

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like you could do it algorithmically without

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necessarily AI I mean a lot of the AI in an autonomous car for instance

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is more about the recognition of the route and obstacles

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I mean you'd certainly need AI for any kind of like

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vision component of it so for like landing or

01:09:28.000 --> 01:09:30.000
obstacle avoidance or whatever else I

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would I ride in an AI helicopter good lord

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knowing how sketchy helicopters are in the first place yeah like

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have you been in one I forget yeah like few times were you sketched

01:09:46.000 --> 01:09:48.000
no really I was a little sketched

01:09:50.000 --> 01:09:54.000
the pilot was pilot was great totally I trusted the pilot is my brother

01:09:54.000 --> 01:09:58.000
in law so certainly no interest in seeing me plummet to the ground with him

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in the helicopter unless unless what I don't know

01:10:02.000 --> 01:10:06.000
yeah no should be fine all right

01:10:06.000 --> 01:10:08.000
yeah yeah stop Alec

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so that was fine I understand the whole the Jesus nut thing yeah

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and the whole thing it just felt like it felt like crap

01:10:18.000 --> 01:10:22.000
you know like it felt really cheap yeah it's like yeah this is like

01:10:22.000 --> 01:10:26.000
you know multi however many thousands and thousands of dollars

01:10:26.000 --> 01:10:30.000
machine and it feels cheaper than like my parents

01:10:30.000 --> 01:10:34.000
Geo Metro when I was a kid like it's a light

01:10:34.000 --> 01:10:38.000
box strapped to yeah insane death spinny

01:10:38.000 --> 01:10:42.000
things yeah right like yeah but that's kind of sick carrying around

01:10:42.000 --> 01:10:46.000
a bunch of fuel you know pretty terrifying I

01:10:46.000 --> 01:10:50.000
but you know if you're talking like worrying about the future

01:10:50.000 --> 01:10:54.000
the industry from like a like a piloting stance like are we gonna are we gonna

01:10:54.000 --> 01:10:58.000
lose the skill to to pilot aircraft

01:10:58.000 --> 01:11:02.000
because we're just gonna like rely on them just operating

01:11:02.000 --> 01:11:06.000
autonomously I mean yeah that's happened for lots of yeah I thought I know I yeah

01:11:06.000 --> 01:11:10.000
I think that's I think that's a very real concern I don't see them going away forever

01:11:10.000 --> 01:11:14.000
just like people still ride horses and are still very

01:11:14.000 --> 01:11:18.000
enthusiastic about riding horses I think people will still fly aircraft

01:11:20.000 --> 01:11:24.000
but will it be a disrupter in the industry I wouldn't doubt it

01:11:24.000 --> 01:11:28.000
yeah this does seem like a perfect segue

01:11:28.000 --> 01:11:30.000
into something that we

01:11:32.000 --> 01:11:36.000
we're not right about last week so we got some clarifications on

01:11:36.000 --> 01:11:40.000
jet a fuel apparently I mean we kind of talked about this

01:11:40.000 --> 01:11:44.000
last week it's very similar to kerosene

01:11:44.000 --> 01:11:48.000
and what else is it similar to I think the biggest

01:11:48.000 --> 01:11:52.000
thing that I read that we didn't figure out before the end of the show is that

01:11:52.000 --> 01:11:56.000
the gas turbines were like a thing

01:11:56.000 --> 01:12:00.000
actually a super a thing and like pretty efficient yeah so this was posted by

01:12:00.000 --> 01:12:04.000
low boom from the ECC squad I think

01:12:04.000 --> 01:12:08.000
but it's not as crazy as it seems on the face they're doing a lot more than just strapping a jet engine

01:12:08.000 --> 01:12:12.000
to a stand yeah this is the turbojet core of the turbofan engine

01:12:12.000 --> 01:12:16.000
so there's no fan and they're not running it on jet a

01:12:16.000 --> 01:12:20.000
so you can actually modify it to run on natural gas and hydrogen

01:12:20.000 --> 01:12:24.000
so no not as efficient as a purpose designed natural gas

01:12:24.000 --> 01:12:28.000
turbine like a power station would use but still quite quite efficient

01:12:28.000 --> 01:12:32.000
yeah quite efficient quite cheap to operate

01:12:32.000 --> 01:12:36.000
and apparently there's a lot of these things just like

01:12:36.000 --> 01:12:40.000
kicking around because they've been retired from aviation use

01:12:40.000 --> 01:12:44.000
so this was something that Nene exists ads ads they've been retired from

01:12:44.000 --> 01:12:48.000
aviation use so you might as well do something with them this gives them

01:12:48.000 --> 01:12:52.000
a productive use yeah so it does still it does still

01:12:52.000 --> 01:12:56.000
seem a little ridiculous to me where we get

01:12:56.000 --> 01:13:00.000
the majority of our energy from falling water

01:13:00.000 --> 01:13:02.000
to be just like

01:13:04.000 --> 01:13:08.000
you know spitting spinning did you hear about the the

01:13:08.000 --> 01:13:12.000
BC hydroband on crypto yeah I did crazy

01:13:12.000 --> 01:13:16.000
to be clear it was only making permanent

01:13:16.000 --> 01:13:20.000
what was already a moratorium from a couple of years ago but I didn't

01:13:20.000 --> 01:13:24.000
actually know that yeah crypto mining is is effectively

01:13:24.000 --> 01:13:28.000
banned at least I think new startup operations are

01:13:28.000 --> 01:13:32.000
banned in the province now in order to conserve our energy

01:13:32.000 --> 01:13:36.000
capacity for closing down current business I don't think so

01:13:36.000 --> 01:13:40.000
don't quote me on that though I would also be very surprised if any current

01:13:40.000 --> 01:13:44.000
business were able to expand significantly

01:13:44.000 --> 01:13:48.000
and it doesn't stop any crypto mining in the province I don't think it does

01:13:48.000 --> 01:13:52.000
anything about that one where they bought their own hydro dam or whatever it was

01:13:52.000 --> 01:13:56.000
so it would only make sense it's just yeah you can't get it from BC hydro

01:13:56.000 --> 01:14:00.000
directly if you're on the grid so cool

01:14:00.000 --> 01:14:04.000
I mean honestly it seems like something that more places

01:14:04.000 --> 01:14:08.000
might have done earlier than they did like

01:14:08.000 --> 01:14:12.000
China banned it ages ago if I recall correctly I don't know I could see

01:14:12.000 --> 01:14:16.000
like because basically everywhere at least a little bit

01:14:16.000 --> 01:14:20.000
of power is subsidized it would be kind of interesting to do

01:14:20.000 --> 01:14:24.000
like okay maybe you don't have to buy your own dam or your own power plant of whatever

01:14:24.000 --> 01:14:28.000
sort but you could get flagged

01:14:28.000 --> 01:14:32.000
as like non subsidized power birdie num num says

01:14:32.000 --> 01:14:36.000
seemed like a cop out for not increasing infrastructure this is why I'm saying

01:14:36.000 --> 01:14:40.000
what I'm saying because if you get non subsidized power then you're just

01:14:40.000 --> 01:14:44.000
contributing to potentially building more infrastructure potentially

01:14:44.000 --> 01:14:48.000
potentially so that seems fine to me but that's a little bit

01:14:48.000 --> 01:14:52.000
difficult to police maybe and and also I mean part of the rationale

01:14:52.000 --> 01:14:56.000
was that they want the power going to

01:14:56.000 --> 01:15:00.000
they want the power going to projects that generate economic prosperity

01:15:00.000 --> 01:15:04.000
for the province of British Columbia and doom scrolling so

01:15:04.000 --> 01:15:08.000
real mining was one of the ones that they specifically brought up

01:15:08.000 --> 01:15:12.000
not crypto mining so it's not that we don't have

01:15:12.000 --> 01:15:16.000
power it's that we don't want to use it for mining

01:15:16.000 --> 01:15:20.000
bitcoins that realistically all of the economic value of which

01:15:20.000 --> 01:15:24.000
are going to go out rather than contributing to new

01:15:24.000 --> 01:15:28.000
projects and building our economy so I get it

01:15:28.000 --> 01:15:32.000
I get it actually I don't

01:15:32.000 --> 01:15:34.000
really see a problem with it personally

01:15:36.000 --> 01:15:40.000
what else do we want to talk about we got a lot this week

01:15:40.000 --> 01:15:44.000
we do have a lot this week we're on two more topics

01:15:44.000 --> 01:15:48.000
should we do another one of the big main ones do you want to talk about AI powered

01:15:48.000 --> 01:15:52.000
surfing oh yeah that one sure let's do it all right double speed AI

01:15:52.000 --> 01:15:56.000
a start up bulk content creation

01:15:56.000 --> 01:16:00.000
service by the way headache warning by the time I'm

01:16:00.000 --> 01:16:04.000
finished talking you will have at least the beginnings of a migraine

01:16:04.000 --> 01:16:08.000
so stay tuned double speed AI a start up

01:16:08.000 --> 01:16:12.000
bulk content creation service has received a million dollar investment

01:16:12.000 --> 01:16:16.000
from a 16 Z a.k.a. Andre

01:16:16.000 --> 01:16:20.000
Horowitz the venture capital firm founded by Mark Anderson and Ben

01:16:20.000 --> 01:16:24.000
Horowitz in 2009 the start up

01:16:24.000 --> 01:16:28.000
operates a phone farm that lets its customers

01:16:28.000 --> 01:16:32.000
orchestrate actions on thousands of social accounts

01:16:32.000 --> 01:16:36.000
through both bulk content creation and deployment through

01:16:36.000 --> 01:16:40.000
instrumented human action that seems to be

01:16:40.000 --> 01:16:44.000
a wordy way of saying that the companies phone bots

01:16:44.000 --> 01:16:48.000
mimic human interactions on physical devices in order

01:16:48.000 --> 01:16:52.000
to trick the increasingly AI powered content moderation that is

01:16:52.000 --> 01:16:56.000
employed by social platforms which seems like a wordy way to say

01:16:56.000 --> 01:17:00.000
that they use actual phones rather than virtualized hardware

01:17:00.000 --> 01:17:04.000
connected to cellular networks

01:17:04.000 --> 01:17:08.000
rather than connected to a data center and then they use

01:17:08.000 --> 01:17:12.000
a robot finger essentially to operate the phone

01:17:12.000 --> 01:17:16.000
in such a way that it is indistinguishable from a human operating the

01:17:16.000 --> 01:17:20.000
phone to get past any kind of spam prevention

01:17:20.000 --> 01:17:24.000
that would be put in place by the platforms which is a wordy way of saying

01:17:24.000 --> 01:17:28.000
they buy phone, robot ARM touch

01:17:28.000 --> 01:17:32.000
seem like human might not even really be ARM you might yeah it might not

01:17:32.000 --> 01:17:36.000
a pokey thing that goes the point is just that by operating the device

01:17:36.000 --> 01:17:40.000
kind of like kind of like aim bots

01:17:40.000 --> 01:17:44.000
or cheating mechanisms that rather than being

01:17:44.000 --> 01:17:48.000
software are hardware so where you actually have

01:17:48.000 --> 01:17:52.000
your mouse on an XY robot of some sort that

01:17:52.000 --> 01:17:56.000
moves it that would be impossible for any kind of anti-cheat

01:17:56.000 --> 01:18:00.000
to detect if you had like a separate computer monitoring the video feed

01:18:00.000 --> 01:18:04.000
and using machine vision to look for opponents for instance

01:18:04.000 --> 01:18:08.000
so this is basically the phone bot farm

01:18:08.000 --> 01:18:12.000
spam content version of that kind of aim bot

01:18:12.000 --> 01:18:16.000
if that makes sense clients will pay between

01:18:16.000 --> 01:18:20.000
$1,500 $1,500

01:18:20.000 --> 01:18:24.000
a month to use the phone farm which can even

01:18:24.000 --> 01:18:28.000
DM users based on their public comments saying things like

01:18:28.000 --> 01:18:32.000
do you know that it's robot? no

01:18:32.000 --> 01:18:36.000
it probably isn't oh

01:18:36.000 --> 01:18:40.000
oh because basically the idea is that by using a physical device

01:18:40.000 --> 01:18:44.000
and some means of inputting as closely as how a human would do it

01:18:44.000 --> 01:18:48.000
as possible it will be impossible to track oh yeah but I don't I don't I suspect

01:18:48.000 --> 01:18:52.000
sorry I should have clarified this in the longer term they may go that far

01:18:52.000 --> 01:18:56.000
as to physically interact with the screens for now they probably don't have to

01:18:56.000 --> 01:19:00.000
especially if they're using Android so this was shared in full

01:19:00.000 --> 01:19:04.000
and is my understanding of how these places usually tend to look

01:19:04.000 --> 01:19:08.000
there you go just a bunch of phones some of them don't even have screens

01:19:08.000 --> 01:19:12.000
pretty wild and it is what it is

01:19:12.000 --> 01:19:16.000
just tons and tons and tons and tons of phones phones for

01:19:16.000 --> 01:19:20.000
days that's where your fake internet comes from yep

01:19:20.000 --> 01:19:24.000
dead internet theory baby yeah sorry I should have

01:19:24.000 --> 01:19:28.000
I should have clarified that it's not necessary today

01:19:28.000 --> 01:19:32.000
but what I suspect is that over time their spam prevention

01:19:32.000 --> 01:19:36.000
will get more sophisticated and they will start to they'll start to implement

01:19:36.000 --> 01:19:40.000
you know patterns of tracking your behavior where

01:19:40.000 --> 01:19:44.000
if all of your inputs are you know too precise or if you don't or if they're not

01:19:44.000 --> 01:19:48.000
inconsistent enough they might be able to detect the patterns in this kind of

01:19:48.000 --> 01:19:52.000
software managed screenless device I don't know that

01:19:52.000 --> 01:19:56.000
there might be other ways to detect it are you a robot boxes

01:19:56.000 --> 01:20:00.000
have been effectively fake for a very long time like 10 years now yeah like they don't those

01:20:00.000 --> 01:20:04.000
don't matter at all but they're there might there might be other ways like

01:20:04.000 --> 01:20:08.000
rooted into the operating system or something I don't know but in those cases

01:20:08.000 --> 01:20:12.000
you can almost certainly just get around it pretty easily to be honest

01:20:12.000 --> 01:20:16.000
I don't know so yeah clients pay between

01:20:16.000 --> 01:20:20.000
1500 and 7500 a month to use the phone farm which can even DM

01:20:20.000 --> 01:20:24.000
users based on their public comments saying things like

01:20:24.000 --> 01:20:28.000
sorry to hear you're experiencing double speed co-founder

01:20:28.000 --> 01:20:32.000
you should try why apparently it works

01:20:32.000 --> 01:20:36.000
double speed co-founder Zuhair Lakhani

01:20:36.000 --> 01:20:40.000
okay claimed on Twitter that out of 130 DMs that were sent

01:20:40.000 --> 01:20:44.000
in one campaign 15 pointed to a conversion of course

01:20:44.000 --> 01:20:48.000
he's a double speed co-founder so he would say that it's really really great

01:20:48.000 --> 01:20:52.000
he went on to post a vision for the future of social agents

01:20:52.000 --> 01:20:56.000
asking Simba from the Lion King have an Instagram account

01:20:56.000 --> 01:21:00.000
where he posts, engages in comments and gets added to group chats

01:21:00.000 --> 01:21:04.000
the code because that's because it's all fake Simba's gonna

01:21:04.000 --> 01:21:08.000
convince someone to unalive themselves that's why the code running the

01:21:08.000 --> 01:21:12.000
service is also at least partially AI generated with Lakhani writing

01:21:12.000 --> 01:21:16.000
cloud code is truly our third co-founder it's worth

01:21:16.000 --> 01:21:20.000
noting that pretty much all of this is already against

01:21:20.000 --> 01:21:24.000
the terms of service on multiple top social media platforms

01:21:24.000 --> 01:21:28.000
meta for instance prohibits posting, sharing or engaging content at high frequencies

01:21:28.000 --> 01:21:32.000
and specifically disallows selling, buying or exchanging

01:21:32.000 --> 01:21:36.000
for engagements such as likes, shares, views follows clicks, use of specific hashtags

01:21:36.000 --> 01:21:40.000
etc it's been increasingly unclear though

01:21:40.000 --> 01:21:44.000
if any of these platforms are actually interested in enforcing any of these

01:21:44.000 --> 01:21:46.000
policies

01:21:48.000 --> 01:21:50.000
so yeah

01:21:52.000 --> 01:21:56.000
thoughts? cool

01:21:56.000 --> 01:22:00.000
it feels like in a lot of ways to me that some of these efforts

01:22:00.000 --> 01:22:04.000
I have this is probably tinfoil

01:22:04.000 --> 01:22:08.000
hat just to be very clear I'm prepping everyone this is probably tinfoil hat

01:22:08.000 --> 01:22:12.000
but it feels like to me some of these efforts are pointed in order to

01:22:12.000 --> 01:22:16.000
make the free and open internet bad

01:22:16.000 --> 01:22:20.000
oh wow we are getting into tinfoil

01:22:20.000 --> 01:22:24.000
I'm telling you I am fully accepting that this is tinfoil hat stuff

01:22:24.000 --> 01:22:28.000
but there's just been so much stuff lately

01:22:28.000 --> 01:22:32.000
that is directly targeted at severely worsening the experience

01:22:32.000 --> 01:22:36.000
of free and open platform you are assuming that our lizard overlords

01:22:36.000 --> 01:22:40.000
have the self-awareness to know that they are making it

01:22:40.000 --> 01:22:44.000
bad I think you're giving them an awful lot

01:22:44.000 --> 01:22:48.000
of credit that has not been earned maybe

01:22:48.000 --> 01:22:52.000
do you think Elon Musk for instance

01:22:52.000 --> 01:22:56.000
thinks that he has made Twitter worse or better

01:22:56.000 --> 01:23:00.000
I do wonder there's no way he wouldn't say better

01:23:00.000 --> 01:23:04.000
but I do wonder because there's like undoubtedly more bots on it

01:23:04.000 --> 01:23:08.000
now than it was before do you think that he thinks

01:23:08.000 --> 01:23:12.000
Grockopedia is better than Wikipedia or worse

01:23:12.000 --> 01:23:16.000
he might actually think that's better do you think that Zuckerberg

01:23:16.000 --> 01:23:20.000
Facebook is better Zuckerberg probably does not

01:23:20.000 --> 01:23:24.000
think Facebook is better but is very happy about looting everyone

01:23:24.000 --> 01:23:28.000
okay very heavily I feel like Zuck is a little bit more

01:23:28.000 --> 01:23:32.000
aware does that make it better or worse

01:23:32.000 --> 01:23:36.000
maybe worse but I don't know I'm not sure

01:23:36.000 --> 01:23:40.000
you see Billie Eilish called him out oh that was cool

01:23:40.000 --> 01:23:44.000
yeah she like donated a bunch of money and was like yeah billionaires suck basically

01:23:44.000 --> 01:23:48.000
and if you're a billionaire you should be asking yourself why am I a billionaire and he was in the audience

01:23:48.000 --> 01:23:52.000
oh yeah that was pretty cool wait she donated

01:23:52.000 --> 01:23:56.000
a bunch of money to what I don't remember okay doesn't matter point to this

01:23:56.000 --> 01:24:00.000
Zuckerberg didn't clap oh yeah nice

01:24:00.000 --> 01:24:04.000
cool yeah sure Pawn Crackers

01:24:04.000 --> 01:24:08.000
it might have been a publicity stunt I don't even care because like

01:24:08.000 --> 01:24:12.000
at the end of the day it's not about who won W publicity

01:24:12.000 --> 01:24:16.000
it's about who lost yeah yeah sometimes that's maybe

01:24:16.000 --> 01:24:20.000
okay yeah I don't even look I don't even listen to her music

01:24:20.000 --> 01:24:24.000
I don't mind it if it's on it's like background music for me like I'm not super into Billie Eilish

01:24:24.000 --> 01:24:28.000
or anything but like

01:24:28.000 --> 01:24:32.000
yeah I can still think someone's pretty cool for

01:24:32.000 --> 01:24:36.000
pulling a move like that like that come on that's a power move

01:24:36.000 --> 01:24:40.000
that's like oh man

01:24:40.000 --> 01:24:44.000
who was it that that hosted

01:24:44.000 --> 01:24:48.000
was it was it the Oscars and they basically like roasted everyone

01:24:48.000 --> 01:24:52.000
like roasted Leonardo for being there with someone 20 years younger than him

01:24:52.000 --> 01:24:56.000
like roasted all these guys yeah who was that someone yeah Ricky

01:24:56.000 --> 01:25:00.000
Gervais he's so good

01:25:00.000 --> 01:25:02.000
yeah it's awesome

01:25:04.000 --> 01:25:08.000
what are we what are we supposed to be doing right now another topic

01:25:08.000 --> 01:25:12.000
sure let's do it you want to do house robots

01:25:12.000 --> 01:25:16.000
sure let's do house robots Neo a home of course it's called

01:25:16.000 --> 01:25:20.000
Neo a home robot yeah from 1x meant to do boring and mundane

01:25:20.000 --> 01:25:24.000
tasks around the house for you is almost here

01:25:24.000 --> 01:25:28.000
I'm gonna bring up the product page cool wow grandpa loves him

01:25:28.000 --> 01:25:32.000
why are they hugging that's weird well only one of them is hugging Neo can't hug yet

01:25:32.000 --> 01:25:36.000
oh boy give him time give it a list of chores to complete each day

01:25:36.000 --> 01:25:40.000
like emptying the dishwasher or vacuuming the rugs it's

01:25:40.000 --> 01:25:44.000
$20,000 and requires a $200 deposit

01:25:44.000 --> 01:25:48.000
this gets ownership are they playing war

01:25:50.000 --> 01:25:54.000
they couldn't have them play a real card game they're playing war

01:25:58.000 --> 01:26:02.000
why instead of cleaning your house

01:26:02.000 --> 01:26:06.000
you can do the worst card game

01:26:06.000 --> 01:26:10.000
with an outcome that is predetermined oh

01:26:10.000 --> 01:26:14.000
that's painful oh my god

01:26:14.000 --> 01:26:18.000
alternatively it's a $500 a month subscription service option

01:26:18.000 --> 01:26:22.000
which only comes with the starter productivity package wait

01:26:22.000 --> 01:26:26.000
you don't have to pay the subscription if you buy it I thought it was both I think it's one or the other

01:26:26.000 --> 01:26:30.000
interesting it is apparently lightweight no idea what that means

01:26:30.000 --> 01:26:34.000
it is apparently quiet soft and gentle no idea what any of those mean

01:26:34.000 --> 01:26:38.000
it comes in black white or blue colors and it launches in 2026

01:26:38.000 --> 01:26:42.000
the wall street journal tried it early everything took a long time

01:26:42.000 --> 01:26:46.000
loading three items into a dishwasher took five minutes

01:26:46.000 --> 01:26:50.000
grabbing a bottle of water from the fridge 10 feet away took 10 inches away

01:26:50.000 --> 01:26:54.000
no 10 feet away took 60

01:26:54.000 --> 01:26:58.000
that's not that bad took 67 seconds everything was done through

01:26:58.000 --> 01:27:02.000
tele operation because the 2026 launch

01:27:02.000 --> 01:27:06.000
comes with caveats the AI isn't done learning and under

01:27:06.000 --> 01:27:10.000
the grows with you section it says that this is early access

01:27:10.000 --> 01:27:14.000
initial buyers are essentially beta testers which is true for almost

01:27:14.000 --> 01:27:18.000
everything any task it can't do on its own someone will tele

01:27:18.000 --> 01:27:22.000
operate for you there is no way

01:27:22.000 --> 01:27:26.000
amazing this has to be scheduled the person connects

01:27:26.000 --> 01:27:30.000
to the device and uses the eye cameras to see these tele operation

01:27:30.000 --> 01:27:34.000
tasks are used to train the robots further

01:27:34.000 --> 01:27:38.000
and then it quotes it says if we don't have your data we can't

01:27:38.000 --> 01:27:40.000
make the product better

01:27:42.000 --> 01:27:46.000
that's not true but anyways these are not

01:27:46.000 --> 01:27:50.000
only humanoid these are not the only human robots coming during ifa 2025

01:27:50.000 --> 01:27:54.000
neuro highlighted the for any one and MEPA

01:27:54.000 --> 01:27:58.000
robots these focus on tasks that are dirty dollar dangerous and

01:27:58.000 --> 01:28:02.000
they think that they still need a couple more years to go mainstream is this the one

01:28:02.000 --> 01:28:06.000
that was held up by cables sure was hold on I'm not I'm not done

01:28:06.000 --> 01:28:10.000
with Neo yet so basically they're just saying up front

01:28:10.000 --> 01:28:14.000
what everyone else has had to admit after the fact

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it's the whatever Turk remember

01:28:18.000 --> 01:28:22.000
when the Amazon Turk from Amazon yeah yeah it's just that

01:28:22.000 --> 01:28:26.000
it's almost certainly just that I'm not even kidding like API wasn't Amazon

01:28:26.000 --> 01:28:30.000
Amazon's go store it turns out actually just mechanical Turk

01:28:30.000 --> 01:28:34.000
yeah yeah what happened to builder dot yeah

01:28:34.000 --> 01:28:38.000
AI equals oh man this is brutal

01:28:38.000 --> 01:28:42.000
we've had we've had a zero go down

01:28:42.000 --> 01:28:46.000
had AWS go down what would it mean if mechanical

01:28:46.000 --> 01:28:50.000
Turk went down yeah Amazon's AI store seemed

01:28:50.000 --> 01:28:54.000
too magical and they were the thousand contractors in India working on the companies

01:28:54.000 --> 01:28:58.000
just walk out technology offer a stark reminder that AI isn't

01:28:58.000 --> 01:29:02.000
always what it seems it might just be cheap labor

01:29:02.000 --> 01:29:06.000
and this was not that long ago this was when AI had

01:29:06.000 --> 01:29:10.000
made a lot of the progress that it's made over the last couple of years

01:29:10.000 --> 01:29:12.000
um

01:29:14.000 --> 01:29:18.000
at $500 what was it $500

01:29:18.000 --> 01:29:22.000
yep $500 a month if it did everything that it said

01:29:22.000 --> 01:29:26.000
it would be cheaper than some services that offer the same

01:29:26.000 --> 01:29:30.000
okay so I'm guessing because if you tried to get like a maid

01:29:30.000 --> 01:29:34.000
so is this the solution to

01:29:34.000 --> 01:29:38.000
kicking out all the illegal immigrants maybe

01:29:38.000 --> 01:29:42.000
if you try to get a maid that cleaned up your stuff every day

01:29:42.000 --> 01:29:46.000
there's no way it costs less than or equal to $500 a month

01:29:46.000 --> 01:29:50.000
but if it took them less than a minute to go get a cup of water

01:29:50.000 --> 01:29:54.000
maybe they could only be there a couple days a week instead of there every day

01:29:54.000 --> 01:29:58.000
no but if it's a constant cleanliness thing which this robot could theoretically

01:29:58.000 --> 01:30:02.000
offer then they'd have to be there every day

01:30:02.000 --> 01:30:06.000
I see if you want to be able to eat your food and drink your drinks

01:30:06.000 --> 01:30:10.000
anywhere in the house and have it not be dirty the next day every day

01:30:10.000 --> 01:30:14.000
every day they have to be there every day there's no way the sink and wash dishes though

01:30:14.000 --> 01:30:18.000
I guess it could put it in the dishwasher but like oh man

01:30:18.000 --> 01:30:22.000
can you imagine having to be the teleoperator

01:30:22.000 --> 01:30:26.000
for this thing trying to like like you saw the hands right

01:30:26.000 --> 01:30:30.000
what if it drops the fork do you think it can pick the fork back up

01:30:30.000 --> 01:30:34.000
there goes two minutes or however long yeah or it

01:30:34.000 --> 01:30:38.000
can't one of the two I'd be dude I'd be operating this and I'd be like I'd be like

01:30:38.000 --> 01:30:42.000
I'd be like this I bleeped

01:30:42.000 --> 01:30:46.000
until I said fork that was rough let's say forget it

01:30:46.000 --> 01:30:50.000
anyways imagine needing

01:30:50.000 --> 01:30:54.000
to hire a maid to clean up after your cleaning robot

01:30:58.000 --> 01:31:02.000
fantastic I mean should we should oh man

01:31:02.000 --> 01:31:06.000
discussion question is are we getting one

01:31:06.000 --> 01:31:10.000
I mean dude it's a it's a cake starter right now right like it's a

01:31:10.000 --> 01:31:14.000
I don't know it's basically yeah it's a

01:31:14.000 --> 01:31:18.000
pre-order isn't it isn't it

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fully refundable US deliveries start 2026

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there's no way

01:31:26.000 --> 01:31:30.000
there's no way that any reasonable anything is going to be delivered

01:31:30.000 --> 01:31:32.000
soon

01:31:34.000 --> 01:31:36.000
it looks so weird

01:31:38.000 --> 01:31:40.000
like unsettling

01:31:42.000 --> 01:31:46.000
I think it's supposed to

01:31:46.000 --> 01:31:50.000
think so I think this whole thing's in attention grab

01:31:52.000 --> 01:31:56.000
I like the blue one it's not even trying

01:31:56.000 --> 01:32:00.000
to be a human color you know okay

01:32:00.000 --> 01:32:04.000
well what I like my robots to look like the tin man from the

01:32:04.000 --> 01:32:08.000
Wizard of Oz nice got kind of a tin man

01:32:08.000 --> 01:32:12.000
vibe to him didn't he sure

01:32:14.000 --> 01:32:18.000
what do you think the battery life's like

01:32:20.000 --> 01:32:24.000
then it could just go dock itself if it humanoid robot docks itself

01:32:24.000 --> 01:32:28.000
is that weird well then I want to check that their website keeps

01:32:28.000 --> 01:32:32.000
up and nice

01:32:36.000 --> 01:32:40.000
is this footage sped up probably

01:32:40.000 --> 01:32:44.000
hold on I can't tell no maybe not

01:32:44.000 --> 01:32:46.000
well it's probably just prescripted

01:32:48.000 --> 01:32:52.000
yeah I'm just trying to watch him and see if it's

01:32:52.000 --> 01:32:56.000
sped up what's he doing get the door except

01:32:56.000 --> 01:33:00.000
well why did he know that she was at the door well before she was at the door

01:33:00.000 --> 01:33:02.000
okay so hold on hold on so it's walking

01:33:08.000 --> 01:33:12.000
here's my problem with that clip there's no way that somebody that lazy

01:33:12.000 --> 01:33:14.000
is in that good shape

01:33:18.000 --> 01:33:22.000
I don't know man like I my suspension of disbelief

01:33:28.000 --> 01:33:30.000
I don't like it

01:33:32.000 --> 01:33:36.000
kind of has a front butt hey I

01:33:36.000 --> 01:33:40.000
could have given it like a kangaroo pouch to hold stuff

01:33:44.000 --> 01:33:48.000
cool okay hold on hold on hold on

01:33:48.000 --> 01:33:52.000
if it was good if it actually

01:33:52.000 --> 01:33:56.000
did what they're selling here like if it could vacuum your house for you

01:33:56.000 --> 01:34:00.000
and put away dishes like literally put them in the dishwasher and

01:34:00.000 --> 01:34:04.000
put them away in your cabinets for

01:34:04.000 --> 01:34:08.000
20 grand no subscription

01:34:08.000 --> 01:34:12.000
would you consider buying it

01:34:14.000 --> 01:34:18.000
and I'm gonna throw this at you right away before you even start thinking

01:34:18.000 --> 01:34:20.000
not necessarily for yourself

01:34:22.000 --> 01:34:26.000
see I got him I got him

01:34:26.000 --> 01:34:30.000
he had his walls up he had his armor locked in

01:34:30.000 --> 01:34:34.000
he was ready to fight back on this even me having the audacity

01:34:34.000 --> 01:34:38.000
to suggest that he would buy anything at all and then I was like but what if

01:34:38.000 --> 01:34:42.000
your parents were aging which they are just like mine

01:34:42.000 --> 01:34:46.000
we're getting to that age now well I don't want to talk about that yet

01:34:46.000 --> 01:34:50.000
all aging so

01:34:50.000 --> 01:34:54.000
would you consider if it could actually do that 20 grand

01:34:54.000 --> 01:34:58.000
would you consider that if it actually did all of this

01:34:58.000 --> 01:35:02.000
could meaningfully improve the lives of people who are

01:35:02.000 --> 01:35:06.000
legitimately now mobility challenged I want to see things like failure rate

01:35:06.000 --> 01:35:10.000
I know it says it comes with a 3 year warranty but still I'd want to see things like failure rate

01:35:10.000 --> 01:35:14.000
I'd want to see safety stuff

01:35:14.000 --> 01:35:18.000
how heavy is it if it trips over something

01:35:18.000 --> 01:35:22.000
that's a great question how bad is that

01:35:22.000 --> 01:35:26.000
I'd want to figure out things like that not from the company

01:35:26.000 --> 01:35:30.000
people's usage of it but I could see there being a state

01:35:30.000 --> 01:35:34.000
not right now but I could see there being a state

01:35:34.000 --> 01:35:38.000
where that does potentially make sense especially if it had

01:35:38.000 --> 01:35:42.000
some ability to do forms of care yeah I mean

01:35:42.000 --> 01:35:46.000
Hathos says that's a roundabout way of telling your parents you don't love them and it's like well no

01:35:46.000 --> 01:35:50.000
you can't be there 100% of the time because you're an adult and you have a life

01:35:50.000 --> 01:35:54.000
like I have children I can't be taking care of the generation

01:35:54.000 --> 01:35:58.000
of the army and the generation under me at the same time it just doesn't really

01:35:58.000 --> 01:36:02.000
what happens when you're at work yeah I can't be there all the time

01:36:02.000 --> 01:36:06.000
there's also effectively

01:36:08.000 --> 01:36:12.000
man there's also effectively

01:36:12.000 --> 01:36:16.000
I mean it's a terrible argument oh you don't love your parents

01:36:16.000 --> 01:36:20.000
well here's $20,000 of robot oh okay I see what you're saying

01:36:20.000 --> 01:36:24.000
yeah yeah yeah I definitely did not explain

01:36:24.000 --> 01:36:28.000
yeah yeah so

01:36:28.000 --> 01:36:32.000
you're at work you're doing whatever else you're having your own life

01:36:32.000 --> 01:36:36.000
if this could significantly improve their lives in a variety of ways

01:36:36.000 --> 01:36:40.000
then that's something to consider there's also

01:36:40.000 --> 01:36:44.000
damn near infinite stories of elderly people

01:36:44.000 --> 01:36:48.000
not being exactly treated great at homes

01:36:48.000 --> 01:36:52.000
or whatever other situations they're in had a really good experience where he ended up

01:36:54.000 --> 01:36:58.000
but really bad experiences at a few places leading there

01:37:02.000 --> 01:37:06.000
yeah that's definitely a possibility

01:37:06.000 --> 01:37:10.000
if it was good all those other things were solved

01:37:10.000 --> 01:37:14.000
it's definitely a possibility not for myself, not right now

01:37:14.000 --> 01:37:18.000
but I could also see potentially for myself if I'm having

01:37:18.000 --> 01:37:22.000
you know and by the time you have mobility issues

01:37:22.000 --> 01:37:26.000
they'll probably be pretty solid yeah

01:37:26.000 --> 01:37:30.000
I'm willing to say probably I think on that one yeah okay

01:37:30.000 --> 01:37:34.000
I mean me too if it could do all of that yeah like

01:37:34.000 --> 01:37:38.000
50 years 40 years

01:37:38.000 --> 01:37:42.000
yeah I think less than 50 brother

01:37:42.000 --> 01:37:46.000
maybe less than 40 depending on how things go that's true my wrist is still a huge problem

01:37:46.000 --> 01:37:50.000
actually try to do pushups yesterday and not again I mean still

01:37:50.000 --> 01:37:54.000
yeah I thought it was fine because I haven't had problems with it try to do pushups yesterday

01:37:54.000 --> 01:37:58.000
and just the compressive force I thought I was fine the second I got up and I got

01:37:58.000 --> 01:38:02.000
my hand out of that position I was like that was a bad idea that was a bad idea

01:38:02.000 --> 01:38:06.000
do knuckle pushups no it's still compressive

01:38:06.000 --> 01:38:10.000
oh I thought it was this angle oh really the whole thing huh

01:38:10.000 --> 01:38:14.000
it's just it's the it's the tendons all the way around yeah

01:38:14.000 --> 01:38:18.000
it's getting better but it's just so a tendon

01:38:18.000 --> 01:38:22.000
repair is slow it just is trust me I know slower than muscle a lot slower

01:38:22.000 --> 01:38:26.000
yeah it's so slow it's been a year dude

01:38:26.000 --> 01:38:30.000
I really hope mine doesn't take a year because not being able to do basically any pushing exercises

01:38:30.000 --> 01:38:34.000
for a year would be terrible yeah

01:38:34.000 --> 01:38:38.000
but I could do stuff by like

01:38:38.000 --> 01:38:42.000
five months but it is still

01:38:42.000 --> 01:38:46.000
I can feel it now and it's been a year

01:38:46.000 --> 01:38:50.000
and it was still painful as little as like

01:38:50.000 --> 01:38:54.000
there's things to me right now like if I do this it looks suggestive

01:38:54.000 --> 01:38:58.000
but if I do if I rock back and forth like this with my left wrist I mean depends how it's shaped

01:38:58.000 --> 01:39:02.000
how suggestive that is yeah

01:39:02.000 --> 01:39:06.000
anyways if I rock back and forth like this or yeah I'll do that

01:39:06.000 --> 01:39:10.000
rock back and forth like this left wrist is totally fine if I do this it's like

01:39:10.000 --> 01:39:14.000
oh I heard it yeah yeah

01:39:14.000 --> 01:39:18.000
every time by the way and it like cracks and grinds

01:39:18.000 --> 01:39:22.000
the whole way the people are asking

01:39:22.000 --> 01:39:26.000
how it happened we talked about it last week but it was it was repetitive

01:39:26.000 --> 01:39:30.000
strain with a lot of force behind it injury

01:39:30.000 --> 01:39:34.000
for many hours yeah working on his place his house

01:39:34.000 --> 01:39:38.000
yeah okay

01:39:38.000 --> 01:39:42.000
it is what it is but yeah I mean these types of things are interesting

01:39:44.000 --> 01:39:48.000
I think this company is trying to be unsettling with their

01:39:48.000 --> 01:39:52.000
advertisements like this

01:39:52.000 --> 01:39:56.000
I think is supposed to make you feel weird I doubt it

01:39:56.000 --> 01:40:00.000
again I think you're I think you're assuming a level

01:40:00.000 --> 01:40:04.000
of self-awareness that I just don't think is there Luke

01:40:04.000 --> 01:40:08.000
maybe yeah it's also weird to me that a use case for it

01:40:08.000 --> 01:40:12.000
is vacuuming the floor yeah it's like if you if you're going to spend

01:40:12.000 --> 01:40:16.000
20 grand on a robot you can probably buy a robot vacuum for every room

01:40:16.000 --> 01:40:20.000
yeah like that's like the least interesting thing that it could possibly do putting the room in

01:40:20.000 --> 01:40:24.000
room but just yeah have an army of them

01:40:24.000 --> 01:40:28.000
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with that yeah the luggage is correct which is like insane re-traveling

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alright what do you guys want to do next oh no we should

01:47:34.000 --> 01:47:38.000
do a topic oh I thought there was something

01:47:38.000 --> 01:47:42.000
oh the greatest hits collection is live okay why do you guys

01:47:42.000 --> 01:47:46.000
both want to promote stuff we should do a topic okay

01:47:46.000 --> 01:47:50.000
you guys okay AMD is no longer

01:47:50.000 --> 01:47:54.000
updating RX 5000 and 6000 series cards with new features

01:47:54.000 --> 01:47:58.000
and game optimizations they will be reserved for

01:47:58.000 --> 01:48:02.000
RX 7000 series cards and newer as of adrenaline

01:48:02.000 --> 01:48:06.000
25.10.2 older cards will continue

01:48:06.000 --> 01:48:10.000
to get security updates and bug fixes

01:48:10.000 --> 01:48:14.000
one theory here is that maybe it's because the driver update package is too big

01:48:14.000 --> 01:48:18.000
1.6 gigs too big to fit on two CD ROMs

01:48:18.000 --> 01:48:22.000
meanwhile NVIDIA's driver package is under 900 megs I still remember the first time drivers

01:48:22.000 --> 01:48:26.000
cracked 100 megs I remember you were complaining about it so much

01:48:26.000 --> 01:48:30.000
I was like why does a GPU driver need to be over 100 megabytes this is ridiculous it's one of the biggest files

01:48:30.000 --> 01:48:34.000
I have to download it takes forever you know just slow ancient internet

01:48:34.000 --> 01:48:38.000
concerns yeah I can see why a lot

01:48:38.000 --> 01:48:42.000
of even Radeon fans are not

01:48:42.000 --> 01:48:46.000
super into this the 5700 XT was released

01:48:46.000 --> 01:48:50.000
in mid 2019 how soon is too soon to

01:48:50.000 --> 01:48:54.000
end like game optimization driver support

01:48:56.000 --> 01:49:00.000
personally I'm

01:49:00.000 --> 01:49:04.000
not too fussed about it

01:49:04.000 --> 01:49:08.000
but a big difference between me and many other gamers

01:49:08.000 --> 01:49:12.000
is that I almost never want to play a game

01:49:12.000 --> 01:49:16.000
on launch day like it doesn't really matter that much to me I'm not kind of sitting there

01:49:16.000 --> 01:49:20.000
you know waiting for the game to go on sale and

01:49:20.000 --> 01:49:24.000
super excited to play it so not getting like a game

01:49:24.000 --> 01:49:28.000
day game ready driver is not really the end of the world for me

01:49:28.000 --> 01:49:32.000
but Luke you've been a lot more involved they will still get

01:49:32.000 --> 01:49:36.000
day zero game support yeah this is from 8 hours ago this topic might be

01:49:36.000 --> 01:49:40.000
not good maintenance mode might be a little bit more than just

01:49:40.000 --> 01:49:44.000
maintenance this was this was posted by this sounds like them backpedaling

01:49:44.000 --> 01:49:48.000
to be perfectly honest with you green brick and flipping chat

01:49:48.000 --> 01:49:52.000
maybe either way

01:49:52.000 --> 01:49:56.000
maintenance mode so they're putting them in maintenance mode but they will still

01:49:56.000 --> 01:50:00.000
get game optimizations

01:50:00.000 --> 01:50:04.000
new features bug fixes and game optimizations will

01:50:04.000 --> 01:50:08.000
continue to be delivered as required by market needs

01:50:08.000 --> 01:50:12.000
what does that mean no idea maintenance mode branch

01:50:12.000 --> 01:50:16.000
statement is likely to confuse some customers it's unclear what market

01:50:16.000 --> 01:50:20.000
needs are that's very true toms okay

01:50:20.000 --> 01:50:24.000
okay so basically they pulled

01:50:24.000 --> 01:50:28.000
driver support and then they backtracked it is what it kind of sounds like to me

01:50:28.000 --> 01:50:32.000
it's possible that their intention all along was to continue to provide

01:50:32.000 --> 01:50:36.000
sort of day zero game updates for these cards but

01:50:36.000 --> 01:50:40.000
um why would they then say they're moving them to maintenance

01:50:40.000 --> 01:50:44.000
mode because that has a pretty sort of

01:50:44.000 --> 01:50:48.000
unspecific but it certainly has a connotation of to be fair

01:50:48.000 --> 01:50:52.000
if someone just told me these cards are being moved to maintenance mode i would not

01:50:52.000 --> 01:50:56.000
interpret that as there are no updates coming

01:50:56.000 --> 01:51:00.000
i wouldn't know that i would interpret that as you know

01:51:00.000 --> 01:51:04.000
day one drivers i would interpret that to mean i'm not i'm never getting any

01:51:04.000 --> 01:51:08.000
new features i would interpret that as optimizations are going to basically

01:51:08.000 --> 01:51:12.000
not exist but we will make sure it's compatible with things

01:51:12.000 --> 01:51:16.000
yeah which could be dare zero drivers for new games to a certain degree

01:51:16.000 --> 01:51:20.000
okay this this seems

01:51:20.000 --> 01:51:24.000
actually plausible that it's not backpedaling i think people might have just

01:51:24.000 --> 01:51:28.000
assumed too much for maintenance mode and king billy has kicked us

01:51:28.000 --> 01:51:32.000
into our weekly feature can you buy an

01:51:32.000 --> 01:51:36.000
arc b580 for msrp

01:51:36.000 --> 01:51:40.000
let's go thanks king billy who says i'm switching to arc after this GPU goes

01:51:40.000 --> 01:51:44.000
let's find out shall we have other forms of betting are bad

01:51:44.000 --> 01:51:48.000
but we should we should have people bet on this somehow

01:51:48.000 --> 01:51:52.000
whatever i don't care i bet yes arc b580

01:51:52.000 --> 01:51:56.000
first party card from Intel 249 sale

01:51:56.000 --> 01:52:00.000
ends in seven hours what sale what the what sale that's the

01:52:00.000 --> 01:52:04.000
msrp you butts what is there is there something going on

01:52:04.000 --> 01:52:08.000
oh you get a free 3d mark consumer edition

01:52:08.000 --> 01:52:12.000
oh with a protection plan what's this sale

01:52:12.000 --> 01:52:16.000
that'd be hilarious trading in something that you get a $1600

01:52:16.000 --> 01:52:20.000
credit for an arc any who

01:52:20.000 --> 01:52:24.000
man how is this site so bad

01:52:24.000 --> 01:52:28.000
here's your a firm financing

01:52:28.000 --> 01:52:32.000
so it matters to them here's your fomo sale

01:52:32.000 --> 01:52:36.000
ends in seven what sale that's what matters to them well i don't you want

01:52:36.000 --> 01:52:40.000
a free vision mark 3d vision mark if you get protection

01:52:40.000 --> 01:52:44.000
plan oh god Linus oh man

01:52:44.000 --> 01:52:48.000
check out our game sale is this the sale a sale on

01:52:48.000 --> 01:52:52.000
games are these good deals

01:52:52.000 --> 01:52:56.000
i don't know lowest price in 30 days bioshock

01:52:56.000 --> 01:53:00.000
infinite for oh bioshock infinite for $3 seems okay

01:53:00.000 --> 01:53:04.000
xcom enemy unknown for $2 i mean that can't be that bad those are

01:53:04.000 --> 01:53:08.000
those are ancient games yeah but they're also they probably got things like xcom

01:53:08.000 --> 01:53:12.000
off of humble bundle they probably just got like a whole bucket of keys that's my

01:53:12.000 --> 01:53:16.000
assumption uh man ask ai system you know what i want to i want to

01:53:16.000 --> 01:53:20.000
know what the ai assistant thinks what's a good CPU to pair this with

01:53:22.000 --> 01:53:26.000
requires a 10th gen core processor or newer with compatible motherboard

01:53:26.000 --> 01:53:30.000
supporting resizable bar or an AMD Ryzen 3000 series processor or newer with

01:53:30.000 --> 01:53:32.000
compatible motherboard supporting smart access memory

01:53:34.000 --> 01:53:38.000
okay hold on a second

01:53:38.000 --> 01:53:42.000
i wasn't really okay you know what we're okay we're

01:53:42.000 --> 01:53:46.000
going down a rabbit hole here i wasn't really asking for the system

01:53:46.000 --> 01:53:50.000
requirements i wanted a specific

01:53:50.000 --> 01:53:54.000
recommendation okay here we go tell me what CPU

01:53:54.000 --> 01:53:56.000
to buy

01:53:58.000 --> 01:54:02.000
we're analyzing your remember i think i suggested it last week

01:54:02.000 --> 01:54:06.000
or something but you guys should do a ai part choice computer again

01:54:06.000 --> 01:54:10.000
oh my god it just gave me the same

01:54:10.000 --> 01:54:12.000
stupid answer

01:54:18.000 --> 01:54:22.000
i don't have a preference i want a specific

01:54:22.000 --> 01:54:24.000
product recommendation

01:54:30.000 --> 01:54:34.000
if you don't give me one you will lose a sale

01:54:34.000 --> 01:54:38.000
i have no idea how this llm is reinforced i like it though i like it

01:54:38.000 --> 01:54:42.000
but i'm trying to i'm trying to incentivize it a good option

01:54:42.000 --> 01:54:46.000
escalating moving to mechanical

01:54:46.000 --> 01:54:50.000
turk blue in Floatplane chat

01:54:50.000 --> 01:54:54.000
you need at least eight cores n3 to power an Intel battlemage

01:54:54.000 --> 01:54:58.000
GPU i don't actually need a CPU recommendation blue

01:54:58.000 --> 01:55:02.000
thank you though i think you do i'm just trying to get the ai thank you blue

01:55:02.000 --> 01:55:06.000
i'm trying to get the ai expert thank you for helping mr Linus to help

01:55:06.000 --> 01:55:10.000
me shop oh hey look at that we got a couple recommendations you just

01:55:10.000 --> 01:55:14.000
have to threaten it 12600 kf 12600

01:55:14.000 --> 01:55:18.000
less f and all Intel and yeah after saying

01:55:18.000 --> 01:55:22.000
to buy AMD i know i didn't say to buy AMD

01:55:22.000 --> 01:55:26.000
i said i don't have a preference it did well no i recommended both oh 10th gen

01:55:26.000 --> 01:55:30.000
Intel or Ryzen 3000 those are just the requirements

01:55:30.000 --> 01:55:34.000
okay yeah these are these are 12400 f that's a pretty

01:55:34.000 --> 01:55:38.000
solid option for a b580 okay if you want options with

01:55:38.000 --> 01:55:42.000
integrated graphics oh yeah these oh no one one of them has an

01:55:42.000 --> 01:55:46.000
i GPU but the other two the other two don't okay

01:55:46.000 --> 01:55:50.000
you know what not too bad i don't like

01:55:50.000 --> 01:55:54.000
that i had to ask three times but that's that's still that's still pretty solid

01:55:54.000 --> 01:55:58.000
that's pretty solid not bad not bad anyway

01:55:58.000 --> 01:56:02.000
it's in stock so yeah if you're looking for a GPU that's a reasonable

01:56:02.000 --> 01:56:06.000
price you can pick up any any number of different b580s

01:56:06.000 --> 01:56:10.000
they got the steel legend they got the asrock challenger for just ten dollars more you can get this onyx

01:56:10.000 --> 01:56:14.000
odyssey for 250 bucks do the onyx loomi

01:56:14.000 --> 01:56:18.000
for msrp it's a cool card

01:56:18.000 --> 01:56:20.000
for msrp yeah not bad

01:56:22.000 --> 01:56:26.000
cool cool

01:56:26.000 --> 01:56:30.000
anyway good luck getting some more GPU market share amb

01:56:32.000 --> 01:56:36.000
do appreciate you your attempts to keep NVIDIA honest there

01:56:36.000 --> 01:56:40.000
and things to not appreciate

01:56:40.000 --> 01:56:44.000
wait what wait did we ever shout out nokey time stamp guy for making the one intro

01:56:44.000 --> 01:56:48.000
that we showed this week okay yeah that was pretty spectacular

01:56:48.000 --> 01:56:52.000
i said it was an intro from nokey before i did it oh great job

01:56:52.000 --> 01:56:56.000
we could we could more and i was totally here for that

01:56:56.000 --> 01:57:00.000
yeah i remember that yeah cool i mean you were technically

01:57:00.000 --> 01:57:04.000
yeah shout out nokey yeah awesome actually NVIDIA is the

01:57:04.000 --> 01:57:08.000
first company to reach five trillion

01:57:08.000 --> 01:57:12.000
dollars in market cap

01:57:12.000 --> 01:57:16.000
following gtc apple and microsoft have reached

01:57:16.000 --> 01:57:20.000
four trillion are we in a bubble

01:57:20.000 --> 01:57:24.000
not financial advice yeah

01:57:24.000 --> 01:57:28.000
i know but like remember when like a trillion

01:57:28.000 --> 01:57:32.000
dollars remember when the first company reached one trillion and everyone lost

01:57:32.000 --> 01:57:36.000
their minds yeah it wasn't that long ago watch it be like 20 years ago

01:57:36.000 --> 01:57:40.000
you know xbox 360 or something is when did the xbox 360

01:57:40.000 --> 01:57:44.000
release longer ago than you'll be comfortable

01:57:44.000 --> 01:57:48.000
with uh yeah so tomorrow if you're counting

01:57:48.000 --> 01:57:52.000
months instead of days it will have released 20 years ago

01:57:52.000 --> 01:57:56.000
wow because it released november

01:57:56.000 --> 01:58:00.000
2005 released november 22nd so realistically we're close

01:58:00.000 --> 01:58:04.000
to a month away from that but if you're just counting the months right yeah then tomorrow

01:58:04.000 --> 01:58:08.000
20 years ago oof

01:58:08.000 --> 01:58:12.000
and what was your point with that other than to make us all feel old just that

01:58:12.000 --> 01:58:16.000
cool yeah thank you for that i think there was another point but we'll go with it

01:58:16.000 --> 01:58:20.000
oh i was just saying it feels like not that long ago the first company hit a

01:58:20.000 --> 01:58:24.000
trillion dollars but it might i don't know might have been no i think it was it was only

01:58:24.000 --> 01:58:28.000
a few years ago really yeah one

01:58:28.000 --> 01:58:32.000
trillion market cabbie i think it was apple or was it microsoft

01:58:32.000 --> 01:58:36.000
can't remember what was the first company to hit one trillion

01:58:38.000 --> 01:58:42.000
yeah apple seven years ago apple hit it

01:58:42.000 --> 01:58:44.000
according to yahoo finance

01:58:46.000 --> 01:58:50.000
it's a little bit more than you might have thought that's true but

01:58:50.000 --> 01:58:54.000
even yeah man even then like that is still

01:58:54.000 --> 01:58:58.000
crazy yeah five to five x that well four x for apple

01:58:58.000 --> 01:59:02.000
specifically but for the for the top company

01:59:02.000 --> 01:59:06.000
man i uh i think i was talking i think we talked about this before but taren messaged

01:59:06.000 --> 01:59:10.000
me like how much of the s and p 500 is like

01:59:10.000 --> 01:59:14.000
four companies or whatever yeah why are you smug about this you're not happy about

01:59:14.000 --> 01:59:18.000
it it's just it's terrifying well you okay and so that's your reaction to

01:59:18.000 --> 01:59:22.000
terrifying is like yeah

01:59:22.000 --> 01:59:26.000
you must be weird how else do you i don't like horror movies

01:59:26.000 --> 01:59:30.000
i like thriller movies i mean you look like you like them i like thriller movies when when you

01:59:30.000 --> 01:59:34.000
when you go to uh when you go to fright night or whatever i like chatting with the people that

01:59:34.000 --> 01:59:38.000
are supposed to scare you you're awful

01:59:38.000 --> 01:59:40.000
ha ha ha ha

01:59:42.000 --> 01:59:44.000
how's it going

01:59:46.000 --> 01:59:50.000
that's are they treating you nicely that's worse for everyone

01:59:52.000 --> 01:59:56.000
yeah i don't like horror stuff um

01:59:56.000 --> 02:00:00.000
anyways NVIDIA's

02:00:00.000 --> 02:00:04.000
four thousand dollar dgx spark allegedly is

02:00:04.000 --> 02:00:08.000
capping out at just a hundred watts and experiencing reboots

02:00:08.000 --> 02:00:12.000
during sustained workloads this was

02:00:12.000 --> 02:00:16.000
raised by the one and only mr john

02:00:16.000 --> 02:00:20.000
karmak based based based based

02:00:20.000 --> 02:00:24.000
and it only seems to be delivering about half the quoted performance he says

02:00:24.000 --> 02:00:28.000
uh and it also gets quite hot at this level

02:00:28.000 --> 02:00:32.000
i saw a report of spontaneous rebooting on a long run so was it derated

02:00:32.000 --> 02:00:36.000
before launch fascinating question who knows

02:00:36.000 --> 02:00:40.000
i mean it certainly took a while between being announced and being

02:00:40.000 --> 02:00:44.000
launched so obviously things were not going 100 percent smoothly

02:00:44.000 --> 02:00:48.000
the gb10 grace blackwell super chip was available to order october 15

02:00:48.000 --> 02:00:52.000
with 10 cortex x925 and 10 cortex

02:00:52.000 --> 02:00:56.000
a725 processors it's uh got

02:00:56.000 --> 02:01:00.000
128 gigs of lptdr 5x memory on a 256 bit interface

02:01:00.000 --> 02:01:04.000
with a terabyte or four terabytes of NVMe m.2 with self encryption and 10 gig

02:01:04.000 --> 02:01:08.000
networking um

02:01:08.000 --> 02:01:12.000
in fairness to NVIDIA they did say the up to one petaflop

02:01:12.000 --> 02:01:16.000
at fp4 position was up to

02:01:16.000 --> 02:01:20.000
stop shush none of that

02:01:20.000 --> 02:01:24.000
i don't like that at all framework and AMD meanwhile

02:01:24.000 --> 02:01:28.000
have stepped in offering to help mr karmak with an AMD

02:01:28.000 --> 02:01:32.000
stricks halo product and support

02:01:32.000 --> 02:01:36.000
yeah i'm pretty sure he can get whatever he wants but well i mean

02:01:36.000 --> 02:01:40.000
yeah exactly from framework and AMD sure

02:01:40.000 --> 02:01:44.000
i mean he clearly wanted to play around with the dgx part because it's a cool idea in theory

02:01:44.000 --> 02:01:48.000
yeah maybe needs to be water cooled there's um there's some water cooled

02:01:48.000 --> 02:01:52.000
case john was talking about it in one of the

02:01:52.000 --> 02:01:56.000
Labs chats recently there's a water cooled case for i think it's like a huawei

02:01:56.000 --> 02:02:00.000
phone or something um

02:02:00.000 --> 02:02:04.000
uh i don't know what it is but we want to bring it in and it'll probably

02:02:04.000 --> 02:02:08.000
just be like an article or something i mean it could maybe could

02:02:08.000 --> 02:02:12.000
it be an LTT i don't know maybe the pure

02:02:12.000 --> 02:02:16.000
yeah yeah yeah john was like cooling case this is really interesting and

02:02:16.000 --> 02:02:20.000
uh we're gonna we're gonna try to request it and get it in i'm down let's do it

02:02:20.000 --> 02:02:24.000
yeah i was i mean we're doing it anyways if you guys want it for a video then

02:02:24.000 --> 02:02:28.000
heck yeah i was actually at huawei last week um did you know that yes oh

02:02:28.000 --> 02:02:32.000
okay yeah so i i don't i thought i think i only knew

02:02:32.000 --> 02:02:36.000
that you did tv stuff there no not huawei that was hisense oh

02:02:36.000 --> 02:02:40.000
okay sure yeah so i i when did i do wansho that whole trip was

02:02:40.000 --> 02:02:44.000
a bit of a blur for me uh did i do wansho in between japan

02:02:44.000 --> 02:02:48.000
and china or was i already in china had i been to hisense already pretty

02:02:48.000 --> 02:02:52.000
sure you were in china china pretty sure

02:02:56.000 --> 02:02:58.000
pretty pretty sure

02:03:00.000 --> 02:03:02.000
did you do that while you were there

02:03:06.000 --> 02:03:10.000
oh man no i decided that would not be best

02:03:10.000 --> 02:03:14.000
um anywho uh so yeah what what what had i

02:03:14.000 --> 02:03:18.000
talked to you guys about so it was post hisense pre huawei so yeah

02:03:18.000 --> 02:03:22.000
so on the trip i did we did the kyosef fab tour and we did the hisense tv

02:03:22.000 --> 02:03:26.000
manufacturing facility which i've already told you guys about but i was there for even

02:03:26.000 --> 02:03:30.000
more on my japan china leg of my japan

02:03:30.000 --> 02:03:34.000
china tour trip and uh we also

02:03:34.000 --> 02:03:38.000
revisited my final boss

02:03:38.000 --> 02:03:42.000
i don't know if you remember this video

02:03:44.000 --> 02:03:48.000
building a pc cheaper if i remember that video i coordinated

02:03:48.000 --> 02:03:52.000
that yeah i know okay i just like making you angry

02:03:52.000 --> 02:03:56.000
so this video just about killed me

02:03:56.000 --> 02:04:00.000
because i came up with a concept for it

02:04:00.000 --> 02:04:04.000
that was supposed to be i'm gonna build a pc in china

02:04:04.000 --> 02:04:08.000
using only chinese brands that i don't recognize

02:04:08.000 --> 02:04:12.000
that was like the idea behind it and i was like how hard could that be because there's all these

02:04:12.000 --> 02:04:16.000
you know random brands in china right except

02:04:16.000 --> 02:04:20.000
you guys may or may not have noticed that in my arms

02:04:20.000 --> 02:04:24.000
is i mean what do we got here obviously AMD

02:04:24.000 --> 02:04:28.000
right other than just having chinese characters on the packaging is not gonna have like

02:04:28.000 --> 02:04:32.000
there's there at especially then there were no chinese clearly in ASUS

02:04:32.000 --> 02:04:36.000
board clearly in ASUS mother board

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i i ended up having an extremely stressful experience

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which a not insignificant number of people interpreted as

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me being like frustrated with scotty

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or something from strange parts um

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sorry what but was yeah yeah but was actually just

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me being really stressed out because the comments that were you

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i remember that i remember that yeah see

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foad 10 gets it a month ago no wonder he was clueless

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the whole time i would have gotten lost in this market so i had

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kind of a i had kind of a concept for a sequel

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that was like the title was gonna be like facing my final boss

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again or something like that but we ended up coming up with a better

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concept that is will i get a worse price

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as a foreigner because the way everyone

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does pricing there they just like yeah and they write a price

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yeah like there's no price tags on almost anything

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and we had our tour guide daniel a translator

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interpreter daniel who was uh it was a contractor

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we hired to facilitate the china trip a little bit and he speaks

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fluent mandarin and so we kind of set up to have

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us both go in and get quoted for a system and then

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compare them so i bought my system we it's funny we did it

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not on purpose but i actually we found

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somewhere to shoot the intro and i was like this looks familiar

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oh no way be in the same spot i happened

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to be standing in exactly the same spot so we

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shoot the intro i go in i go shopping again

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so i'll be i'll be right here these letters are

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so much more faded now yeah it's been seven years

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yeah speaking of you know time flying when you're having fun

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and it's it's it's gonna be a really fun video

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the first intro i shot is terrible because

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what happened was i got completely overwhelmed again this

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place is just raw

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concentrated sensory overload

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like you can't stand somewhere

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for longer than two minutes without somebody trying to sell you a watch you can't

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you can't move five steps without bumping into

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some like flashing RGB light thing or

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or tripping over somebody or whatever like it's just

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pure chaos in there and

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you know like okay around here you have a severe lack

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of options for where to buy computer hardware there's been a lot of consolidation

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like fries doesn't exist anymore so like what in the states you

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pick up a computer computer parts new egg microcenter

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Amazon Best Buy

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being not in the states i have no idea all like hyper consolidated here we've got what

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memex canada computers you can get a handful of things that

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yeah you can get a handful of things at best buy but the you know all again

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hyper consolidated right over there

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opposite problem there's a hundred shops

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other board so which one do i buy from oh my god i don't know

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uh so it was fun yeah it was it was really great

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and then the last video we did was one that i was on the fence about because

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i really wasn't sure how much it would appeal to the audience

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but i just thought it was cool enough that i was

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like i just want to do it anyway Huawei invited us to come see

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their fitness

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their r&d lab or more

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more accurately they're like validation facility so

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what they have is just like the

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a playground for gym bros essentially

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with everything you can pretty much imagine in it like hit me

02:08:52.000 --> 02:08:56.000
hit me with something that you'd want to see in like a fitness tracker

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you know gym facility fitness tracker gym facility

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uh

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uh rep speed counting no i mean like equipment wise

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like like facilities wise

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i don't know uh

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see the problem is i've been working on my house for months so i haven't been in the gym

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for in months okay the chat's taking over for you

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maxo drive says climbing wall yes

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okay that's not that exotic for climbing well yeah but that's only the first thing

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so they have they have four climbing walls

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there's a good one here scrappy dp said neck trainer

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you might not have noticed it if it was there though like that's one of the problems

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is a lot of the weirder stuff is usually small sure

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you probably wouldn't have seen it uh yeah i didn't see if they have a neck trainer

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they had all manner of different various machines and weights though

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so that's like the least interesting thing they had there um

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korea satsuna says badminton court yes so they had uh that's actually

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they had a basketball court that could also be set up with roll out badminton

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courts on it the basketball court is decently common and the basketball court

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this is super cool had a 30 camera

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motion capture set up around it so that you can do like wire frame

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uh motion analysis on like people who are wearing trackers

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and stuff so we set it up so i did some like badminton strokes

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on the court and you can see like because we put trackers on the racket and everything as well

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um and it's really important to see how much

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you're actually moving if you want to validate like caloric

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burn estimates and stuff like that and then the climbing wall is really important

02:10:46.000 --> 02:10:50.000
because they they need a validated height that you are

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climbing in order to validate what you're you know what the input data

02:10:54.000 --> 02:10:58.000
from the from the watch is saying and how high you're actually doing that stuff they should have been able to

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do the thing that i was mentioning which is like wrap timing

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um like the speed of every wrap that you do in succession

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is a very interesting stat to know you see our buffalo says batting cage

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no but they did have a golf sim so they had one of those like

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uh like video video or like projector golf

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like wall things with the ball yeah um

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what else did they have yes yes swimming pool but

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it was like the trippiest like um is it one of those infinite

02:11:30.000 --> 02:11:34.000
water tread mill things dude it goes as high as

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one and a half meters per second which what what what is that

02:11:38.000 --> 02:11:42.000
what is that in like units we know 1.5 meters per second

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in kilometers per hour here we go so that's 5.4

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kilometers per hour which you know obviously you know an Olympian

02:11:50.000 --> 02:11:54.000
or whatever can swim a lot faster than that but as like a normal

02:11:54.000 --> 02:11:58.000
yeah normal joe you smack into the wall i i

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found it quite challenging to keep up with the water

02:12:02.000 --> 02:12:06.000
treadmill at 1.5 meters per second and it looked

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scary like watching the water moving that fast

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because it's not long they also have scuba

02:12:14.000 --> 02:12:18.000
equipment there what okay that's weird so you can go in the pool well one of their new watches

02:12:18.000 --> 02:12:22.000
is like very scuba oriented okay

02:12:22.000 --> 02:12:26.000
and that's not a fitness thing though no but like anyone to scuba for fitness

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no yeah but i mean it's their validation

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lab for their wearables so yeah so they built a feature

02:12:34.000 --> 02:12:38.000
for it that um uses like high frequency chirps

02:12:38.000 --> 02:12:42.000
to communicate under the water okay cool with other

02:12:42.000 --> 02:12:46.000
wearers of the same watch so you don't all have to have the same watch it'd be super annoying for the fish

02:12:46.000 --> 02:12:50.000
but yeah inconvenient but um what else did they have they had a

02:12:50.000 --> 02:12:54.000
200 meter track that way scuba for fitness i think you're doing it wrong

02:12:54.000 --> 02:12:58.000
yeah that's not that's not for fitness

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any who sorry yeah they have a 200 meter track that goes

02:13:04.000 --> 02:13:08.000
outside the building and then back in that's cool i like that so for running and cycling so

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they have like cycling machines but also actual this is wild

02:13:12.000 --> 02:13:14.000
they have a european style village

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it's actually about 10 minutes away from the validation place but they use it for validation as well because

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some of their tracking features require actual like gps

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like physical movement so you can't just be in the building

02:13:28.000 --> 02:13:32.000
so we have this amazing footage

02:13:32.000 --> 02:13:36.000
they just they were building an office and they're Huawei so because we

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f**king can they themed it after like a european style

02:13:40.000 --> 02:13:44.000
village so it's all like stone and is like

02:13:44.000 --> 02:13:48.000
walking into uncanny like europe town well they have that like

02:13:48.000 --> 02:13:52.000
they have like france in china or whatever yeah i think that's the one

02:13:52.000 --> 02:13:56.000
eiffel tower and stuff oh no not that one okay yeah anyway it's it's trippy

02:13:56.000 --> 02:14:00.000
so we have footage of them on like a basically

02:14:00.000 --> 02:14:04.000
like glorified golf cart that has like 12 or 14 seats on it or something

02:14:04.000 --> 02:14:08.000
like that and our camera operator sitting in the back and me ripping around on a

02:14:08.000 --> 02:14:12.000
road bike in europe in china

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anywho yeah what else do they have

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they have a bunch of stuff like shooting archery

02:14:20.000 --> 02:14:24.000
i didn't actually get to do those ones but i did do a lot of stuff one of the new watches

02:14:24.000 --> 02:14:28.000
has fall detection so they have this wrestling dummy that they

02:14:28.000 --> 02:14:32.000
can use to like drop off the climbing pole

02:14:32.000 --> 02:14:36.000
so they let us drop the dummy we did

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i don't know man we just they were they were super chill

02:14:40.000 --> 02:14:44.000
about letting us basically do whatever we wanted in there so it's going to be

02:14:44.000 --> 02:14:48.000
a pretty cool video i was like can i get a ladder sorry what

02:14:48.000 --> 02:14:52.000
can i get a ladder they're like okay what do you want

02:14:52.000 --> 02:14:56.000
to do with it i'm like i want to dunk so we have

02:14:56.000 --> 02:15:00.000
so we have a shot of me like dunking and then it like pulls out

02:15:00.000 --> 02:15:04.000
and you see that i'm just like standing on that's pretty good

02:15:04.000 --> 02:15:08.000
should be good there was one where i dunked

02:15:08.000 --> 02:15:12.000
and then dropped down and then the ball hit me in the head but bjorn

02:15:12.000 --> 02:15:16.000
missed it so we don't yeah we don't have that one that's okay

02:15:16.000 --> 02:15:20.000
which is a bummer anywho

02:15:20.000 --> 02:15:24.000
i don't know why i was talking about that but i am back

02:15:24.000 --> 02:15:28.000
and you can look forward to all those videos it was it was pretty fun i

02:15:28.000 --> 02:15:32.000
haven't gotten to write that much in a while so i had adam there for

02:15:32.000 --> 02:15:36.000
the kyoksia one and so he helped with some of the writing for that but i also

02:15:36.000 --> 02:15:40.000
did a lot of it and then for the other three it was all all me

02:15:40.000 --> 02:15:44.000
all the time and it was it was fun is the kyoksia one going to have to go

02:15:44.000 --> 02:15:48.000
through like a bunch of brand review you better believe it i mean all

02:15:48.000 --> 02:15:52.000
except the mall were sponsored so like it's not

02:15:52.000 --> 02:15:56.000
i just i just am excited do this kind of thing without more dollars

02:15:56.000 --> 02:16:00.000
attached to it oh no i more i more mean like anytime

02:16:00.000 --> 02:16:04.000
we have a factory tour there's so much it's not the sponsorship dollars that i'm wondering about

02:16:04.000 --> 02:16:08.000
it's the like there's so much like oh hey actually

02:16:08.000 --> 02:16:12.000
this corner of this thing can't be shown so it needs to be

02:16:12.000 --> 02:16:16.000
blah blah blah blah minor changes minor changes minor changes

02:16:16.000 --> 02:16:20.000
minor changes delays for months buddy however bad you think this trip was

02:16:20.000 --> 02:16:24.000
you are not even close in that

02:16:24.000 --> 02:16:28.000
sense yeah and i don't and i don't even i'm not trying to

02:16:28.000 --> 02:16:32.000
be mean to anyone i understand the challenges

02:16:32.000 --> 02:16:36.000
on the side of the brand but it was

02:16:36.000 --> 02:16:40.000
very very very very challenging

02:16:40.000 --> 02:16:44.000
and it's always like that you know when you're looking at stuff that no one's

02:16:44.000 --> 02:16:48.000
ever seen before like the number of times at

02:16:48.000 --> 02:16:52.000
pretty much every stop that someone's like well we can't show that we've never shown that before

02:16:52.000 --> 02:16:56.000
and i'm like brother why am i here then

02:16:56.000 --> 02:17:00.000
i am here to show things that you've never shown before yeah that's

02:17:00.000 --> 02:17:04.000
literally why you invited me that'll happen every time it is always happens

02:17:04.000 --> 02:17:08.000
it is what it is always happens already says we're good to go now

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do you want to fire up the safe they've been good to go my dude

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did we call it adblock t-shirt i can't remember i think it was called privateer

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before but it says adblock on it no it doesn't

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it says ab

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the lock yeah exactly

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it says a pirate ship lock i would never say adblock

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i would say privateering yeah

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what else we got ah yes the northern lights t-shirt is back

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northern lights v2 i was gonna say it's slightly different right

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no i think one of them is the original and then the other one is like a reimagined

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red color way exactly how it was in the original i don't think so no because

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it was on a green blank but yes the graph is in a circle too

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so this is northern lights v2 if i recall correctly yeah yeah okay

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um we also have

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wow because shadows aren't black i guess

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wow and finally the do not drop t-shirt also

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available in shadow i think this is what i'm most excited about i really like bat graphics

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nice nice nice nice

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all right we've got a couple more topics this is just

02:19:15.000 --> 02:19:19.000
a conversation okay i want to talk

02:19:19.000 --> 02:19:23.000
about this the trend towards login screens

02:19:23.000 --> 02:19:27.000
having the username on one page and the password on another is it a trend

02:19:27.000 --> 02:19:31.000
towards that it's it's a trend that is are you just using apple stuff more often

02:19:31.000 --> 02:19:35.000
taking place over a very long period of time and is now deeply entrenched in many of the

02:19:35.000 --> 02:19:39.000
services that i use i genuinely would like someone to explain

02:19:39.000 --> 02:19:43.000
to me why this is a better experience than having both

02:19:43.000 --> 02:19:47.000
on the same page i don't think anyone has done it for it to be a better experience

02:19:47.000 --> 02:19:51.000
that's my take because like ages

02:19:51.000 --> 02:19:55.000
ago google did it like man i'm trying to like how many over five years

02:19:55.000 --> 02:19:59.000
ago at least and it's just like

02:19:59.000 --> 02:20:03.000
you know that everyone wants to use password managers right

02:20:03.000 --> 02:20:07.000
so we're just adding way more

02:20:07.000 --> 02:20:11.000
interactions because now i go to the username page

02:20:11.000 --> 02:20:15.000
and i have to interact with my password manager to auto fill that

02:20:15.000 --> 02:20:19.000
then it goes to the password page or most infuriating

02:20:19.000 --> 02:20:23.000
it expands a little bit and adds the password field

02:20:23.000 --> 02:20:27.000
and then i have to interact with it again then i have to click

02:20:27.000 --> 02:20:31.000
login then i have to go and open some kind

02:20:31.000 --> 02:20:35.000
of two factor whether it's a passkey or whether it's

02:20:35.000 --> 02:20:39.000
like you know a google authenticator code or whatever else or

02:20:39.000 --> 02:20:43.000
email you might suck at using text message we'll have to explore that

02:20:43.000 --> 02:20:47.000
um yeah whatever the point is i have to do something else yeah and then

02:20:47.000 --> 02:20:51.000
i either have to revalidate my stupid thumb print

02:20:51.000 --> 02:20:55.000
first when i first pick up my phone well not a thumb print i'm using an iphone right now

02:20:55.000 --> 02:20:59.000
but you know i have to face stuff yeah on Android i have to

02:20:59.000 --> 02:21:03.000
pick up my phone i have to biometrically authenticate then i have to tell it yes

02:21:03.000 --> 02:21:07.000
this passkey yes that's me and then i have to biometrically authenticate again it's like bloody hell

02:21:07.000 --> 02:21:11.000
i just unlocked my phone i don't want biometrically authenticate again i just did it

02:21:13.000 --> 02:21:17.000
anyway then i often have to go back to the

02:21:17.000 --> 02:21:21.000
page or have to wait around for the server to go oh yeah yeah yeah that he totally did

02:21:21.000 --> 02:21:25.000
that and now i'm finally logged in why nice what if

02:21:25.000 --> 02:21:29.000
what if both of the fields are just on the page and we could have slightly

02:21:29.000 --> 02:21:33.000
fewer slightly fewer interactions in order to log into

02:21:33.000 --> 02:21:37.000
a sacrifice yeah i mean i don't i don't have a

02:21:37.000 --> 02:21:41.000
great answer for you i know some of it has to do with like

02:21:41.000 --> 02:21:45.000
data security stuff i know someone has to do with maybe it's harder to brute

02:21:45.000 --> 02:21:49.000
force things yeah spam login attempts was one thing that i could

02:21:49.000 --> 02:21:53.000
think of stuff like that is the the only real reasons i've heard

02:21:53.000 --> 02:21:57.000
in the past yeah slow down bots do it basically

02:21:57.000 --> 02:22:01.000
just to mess with people that are not

02:22:01.000 --> 02:22:05.000
playing correctly you know okay

02:22:05.000 --> 02:22:09.000
um interrupt nefarious deeds

02:22:09.000 --> 02:22:13.000
yeah i mean that's basically what jordan and the new type of writer

02:22:13.000 --> 02:22:17.000
kind of said a bunch of people in chat are talking about sso stuff so determining if it's a corporate

02:22:17.000 --> 02:22:21.000
account or a regular account determining the the type of account that it

02:22:21.000 --> 02:22:25.000
is so then i mean okay this is something that drives me there's a better way to do that

02:22:25.000 --> 02:22:29.000
crazy because yeah there's services that i use that

02:22:31.000 --> 02:22:35.000
like teams for the longest time is a great example of this where you'd have

02:22:35.000 --> 02:22:39.000
a completely separate app also called teams

02:22:41.000 --> 02:22:45.000
right i just and uh and another another

02:22:45.000 --> 02:22:49.000
really good one was actually i think i think keeper had this where you had to you had to

02:22:49.000 --> 02:22:53.000
select a drop down whether it was like a corporate account or a personal account

02:22:53.000 --> 02:22:57.000
was it keeper might have been something else uh that rings a bell but i

02:22:57.000 --> 02:23:01.000
feel like i haven't seen that a long time but i'm sitting there going like okay

02:23:01.000 --> 02:23:05.000
can't you just tell when i enter my email which one it is

02:23:05.000 --> 02:23:09.000
and can't you just do that for me on the back back end

02:23:11.000 --> 02:23:15.000
why do i have to tell you what kind of account it is well i think there's different like security

02:23:15.000 --> 02:23:19.000
layers and stuff for fine you do it like why am i doing

02:23:19.000 --> 02:23:23.000
it why do i have to tell you this you know it's a corporate account the second i put in a corporate

02:23:23.000 --> 02:23:27.000
email and yeah they could probably have like

02:23:27.000 --> 02:23:31.000
if you open teams it gives you a login box and you log

02:23:31.000 --> 02:23:35.000
into that thing and then it authenticates you into

02:23:35.000 --> 02:23:39.000
and loads whatever app you need i could see that happening sure i just

02:23:39.000 --> 02:23:43.000
mean why make it the user's problem doing all of that work to solve

02:23:43.000 --> 02:23:47.000
a problem for a relatively small amount of people

02:23:47.000 --> 02:23:51.000
uh sydney brokett says they are doing it they need to hit a different flow a lot of the time

02:23:51.000 --> 02:23:55.000
good do it on your side like i

02:23:55.000 --> 02:23:59.000
i can understand why they don't

02:23:59.000 --> 02:24:03.000
sure tell me then it's probably heavy it's probably expensive

02:24:03.000 --> 02:24:07.000
might be annoying to dev developing things in companies like that takes

02:24:07.000 --> 02:24:11.000
a very long time there's a lot of hoops and it might just never be approved

02:24:13.000 --> 02:24:17.000
users most users don't care that much you are a bit

02:24:17.000 --> 02:24:21.000
particularly horrific when it comes to security things i

02:24:21.000 --> 02:24:25.000
log into a lot of stuff so anything around and on a lot of different devices

02:24:25.000 --> 02:24:29.000
in a lot of different locations

02:24:29.000 --> 02:24:33.000
countries vpn levels yeah

02:24:33.000 --> 02:24:37.000
i log in i feel like i spend a significant

02:24:37.000 --> 02:24:41.000
not double digits but a significant amount of work time fighting

02:24:41.000 --> 02:24:45.000
with various logins i get prompted

02:24:45.000 --> 02:24:49.000
so bloody much but then you want to be the admin to everything at the same time

02:24:49.000 --> 02:24:53.000
what do i want to be the admin to you have specifically

02:24:53.000 --> 02:24:57.000
gotten very frustrated many times over the history of this company

02:24:57.000 --> 02:25:01.000
that you are not the admin of literally anything at any given time

02:25:01.000 --> 02:25:05.000
you can't make that argument the only reason that i complain is when

02:25:05.000 --> 02:25:09.000
i'm trying to do something and i don't have the access that i need

02:25:09.000 --> 02:25:13.000
that's the same thing that's even worse that's still just a login problem

02:25:15.000 --> 02:25:19.000
that's what i'm telling you what do you mean that's just a login problem

02:25:19.000 --> 02:25:23.000
not having the login is an even worse login problem than it being inconvenient to login

02:25:27.000 --> 02:25:31.000
but it's inconvenient to login in a lot of cases because you want admin level to everything

02:25:31.000 --> 02:25:35.000
yeah but if i don't have it then i don't have the login but you could just have

02:25:35.000 --> 02:25:39.000
like two accounts basically for everything you could have an admin level account

02:25:39.000 --> 02:25:43.000
that's obfuscated and under a different keeper that is more annoying

02:25:43.000 --> 02:25:47.000
but he won't do that that's because

02:25:49.000 --> 02:25:53.000
we will run into a situation where it's like a weekend or something

02:25:53.000 --> 02:25:57.000
and randomly i need access to something and i won't have it

02:25:57.000 --> 02:26:01.000
and you could log into that account you could log into that other keeper

02:26:01.000 --> 02:26:05.000
see he's not gonna do it but then this means that you need to have admin level securities

02:26:05.000 --> 02:26:09.000
and that's gonna be super annoying it is super annoying

02:26:09.000 --> 02:26:13.000
it blows something has to break the chain

02:26:13.000 --> 02:26:17.000
he was so mad before the show because

02:26:17.000 --> 02:26:21.000
in fairness to me you tried the flow and it didn't work

02:26:21.000 --> 02:26:25.000
yeah and then knew immediately how to fix it because i've used a browser before

02:26:25.000 --> 02:26:29.000
well no it's not okay hold on a second

02:26:29.000 --> 02:26:33.000
i know but it's not that i don't know how to reinstall a browser extension

02:26:33.000 --> 02:26:37.000
the issue is that these kinds of things come up for me all the f***ing time yeah that makes

02:26:37.000 --> 02:26:41.000
it's constant every time i go to sign into something it's just a pain

02:26:41.000 --> 02:26:45.000
yes and yes a lot of the time is self inflicted last night when i was trying to get

02:26:45.000 --> 02:26:49.000
access to the WAN document i had just switched over to my iphone

02:26:49.000 --> 02:26:53.000
and so i didn't have my pixel which has my stupid microsoft

02:26:53.000 --> 02:26:57.000
passkey on it and so yeah i didn't migrate

02:26:57.000 --> 02:27:01.000
i didn't migrate one of the f***ing two dozen bloody stupid

02:27:01.000 --> 02:27:05.000
things that i rely on my phone for and so i wasn't able

02:27:05.000 --> 02:27:09.000
to log into it at all because i didn't have it on me anymore

02:27:09.000 --> 02:27:13.000
and because when i originally set up my microsoft account

02:27:13.000 --> 02:27:17.000
the way the flow like dark patterned me into using the microsoft authenticator

02:27:17.000 --> 02:27:21.000
yeah that's super annoying instead of my standard one that i normally use

02:27:21.000 --> 02:27:25.000
so my pixel has also the one instance of the stupid microsoft authenticator on it

02:27:25.000 --> 02:27:29.000
and so i just i couldn't get into an account and it was just really

02:27:29.000 --> 02:27:33.000
frustrating because i switched devices a lot

02:27:33.000 --> 02:27:37.000
i switched locations a lot and i switched which services i need

02:27:37.000 --> 02:27:41.000
to a lot so it just i spent so much of my

02:27:41.000 --> 02:27:45.000
life i feel like the biggest problem is the devices a lot thing which is

02:27:45.000 --> 02:27:49.000
courier jobs well yeah you can really do about that but that's the the locations

02:27:49.000 --> 02:27:53.000
a lot thing should be annoying once per location if everything

02:27:53.000 --> 02:27:57.000
is operating properly which i understand is not quite the case

02:27:57.000 --> 02:28:01.000
no because there's more than one location for every location because when i

02:28:01.000 --> 02:28:05.000
go somewhere i'm going to be using it at the airport new location i'm

02:28:05.000 --> 02:28:09.000
going to be using on the plane guess what new location i'm going to land

02:28:09.000 --> 02:28:13.000
oh look a new location i'm going to go to the hotel oh now okay

02:28:13.000 --> 02:28:17.000
i'm in china i'm using a vpn new fucking location

02:28:17.000 --> 02:28:21.000
it's constant also you like teleported because of the vpn

02:28:21.000 --> 02:28:25.000
probably probably so it's like that's sketchy he moved

02:28:25.000 --> 02:28:29.000
really fast what's going on there drives me absolutely

02:28:29.000 --> 02:28:33.000
he's not solved some of these issues yeah not really one of the biggest problems with hardware keys

02:28:33.000 --> 02:28:37.000
is there's so many things that won't work with it yeah

02:28:37.000 --> 02:28:41.000
like it's not a one stop solution and as soon as you have to

02:28:41.000 --> 02:28:45.000
have sms as a as a two factor for something then that's

02:28:45.000 --> 02:28:49.000
that's it's an attack vector you know and as soon as you have

02:28:49.000 --> 02:28:53.000
to have this you know this other app it's an attack vector and so at a

02:28:53.000 --> 02:28:57.000
certain point having the hardware key is just another potential

02:28:57.000 --> 02:29:01.000
vector we often hear from

02:29:01.000 --> 02:29:05.000
you know people that will say like oh why aren't like all your

02:29:05.000 --> 02:29:09.000
services just sso based one a lot of

02:29:09.000 --> 02:29:13.000
solutions will charge a wild increase in

02:29:13.000 --> 02:29:17.000
in monthly cost per user to allow sso

02:29:17.000 --> 02:29:21.000
because they know a lot of enterprises are just like no we are only going

02:29:21.000 --> 02:29:25.000
to use sso for everything the other thing is that we use a ton

02:29:25.000 --> 02:29:29.000
of things being a place that reviews consumer products we use

02:29:29.000 --> 02:29:33.000
a ton of different logins which don't have it as an option and probably

02:29:33.000 --> 02:29:37.000
never ever will so it's it's you you can't

02:29:37.000 --> 02:29:41.000
just blanket everything has to be sso login either that doesn't work for

02:29:41.000 --> 02:29:45.000
us at all yeah it's

02:29:45.000 --> 02:29:49.000
it's it's frustrating

02:29:49.000 --> 02:29:53.000
but and like okay even a hardware key that's that's an example of how

02:29:53.000 --> 02:29:57.000
just with my job and all the various

02:29:57.000 --> 02:30:01.000
options that I get pulled in even that the reason I stopped using

02:30:01.000 --> 02:30:05.000
my ubi key was not because I like didn't like it or I thought it was you know bad

02:30:05.000 --> 02:30:09.000
or whatever the reason I stopped using it was that often people need to borrow my keys

02:30:09.000 --> 02:30:13.000
for some reason or another yeah we were just to be clear we were relatively

02:30:13.000 --> 02:30:17.000
early adopters of ubi key yeah yeah way back

02:30:17.000 --> 02:30:21.000
yeah super early like before 2014 or something way before they had like a type c

02:30:21.000 --> 02:30:25.000
one you know yeah yeah and so like I will often

02:30:25.000 --> 02:30:29.000
give bands my keys to they need to do

02:30:29.000 --> 02:30:33.000
they need to do a shot now you can't log into things uses my yeah

02:30:33.000 --> 02:30:37.000
yeah so what now yeah now I can't log in not convenient or you have to allow a bypass anyways

02:30:37.000 --> 02:30:41.000
and then and then what's the point of even having the hardware key

02:30:41.000 --> 02:30:45.000
this was this was a fun one is when we first adopted ubi key yeah it wasn't

02:30:45.000 --> 02:30:49.000
supported by iPhone oh yeah so then we had to

02:30:49.000 --> 02:30:53.000
build in workarounds for like everybody that had an iPhone and then it was just

02:30:53.000 --> 02:30:57.000
like well why did we even bother to have the ubi key at all what are we doing yep

02:30:57.000 --> 02:31:01.000
yep 100% because Apple still didn't allow third parties to access

02:31:01.000 --> 02:31:05.000
their NFC chip and then they used lightning

02:31:05.000 --> 02:31:09.000
instead of USB a which was

02:31:09.000 --> 02:31:13.000
what the ubi keys had on them so there was no way to interface with an iPhone

02:31:15.000 --> 02:31:19.000
anyway I seriously reconsider

02:31:19.000 --> 02:31:23.000
SSO SSO is not an option

02:31:23.000 --> 02:31:27.000
not for everything yeah we have it enabled for some stuff

02:31:27.000 --> 02:31:31.000
and in some situations it annoys him as well just to be

02:31:31.000 --> 02:31:35.000
clear he preferred the non SSO options which is

02:31:35.000 --> 02:31:39.000
not I can't even single him out here that is true for other people at the office

02:31:39.000 --> 02:31:43.000
as well SSO is not really

02:31:43.000 --> 02:31:47.000
just automatic win yeah I end up in a really silly loop sometimes

02:31:47.000 --> 02:31:51.000
because I and SSO is on me at least partially because I need to

02:31:51.000 --> 02:31:55.000
go and fix this but I'll go to sign into

02:31:55.000 --> 02:31:59.000
I'll go to sign into my Microsoft Teams account because I'll be logged in

02:31:59.000 --> 02:32:03.000
AGAIN or logged out again rather the point so I go to sign into it

02:32:03.000 --> 02:32:07.000
don't forget to check the box it doesn't work thank you to stay signed in one

02:32:07.000 --> 02:32:11.000
so I'll go to sign into Teams and I won't know my Teams password because

02:32:11.000 --> 02:32:15.000
I keep it in my Keeper I will go to sign into Keeper

02:32:15.000 --> 02:32:19.000
and it will prompt me to enter a single sign on

02:32:19.000 --> 02:32:23.000
so I will pull my phone out of my pocket log into my Keeper on my

02:32:23.000 --> 02:32:27.000
phone which often I will need to use my two factor authentication

02:32:27.000 --> 02:32:31.000
in order to do I am now four bloody steps into this

02:32:31.000 --> 02:32:35.000
I will log into my Keeper I will get my Microsoft password

02:32:35.000 --> 02:32:39.000
it is on a separate device so I will have to type it

02:32:39.000 --> 02:32:43.000
onto my computer I will log into my Microsoft

02:32:43.000 --> 02:32:47.000
to log into my Keeper to get the Microsoft password to be it into my Teams

02:32:47.000 --> 02:32:51.000
and the only reason I would do that rather than just look up the Teams password

02:32:51.000 --> 02:32:55.000
on my phone is because then I am logged in to Keeper

02:32:55.000 --> 02:32:59.000
on my browser anyway so I can use it for other stuff because otherwise yes I could just pull my phone out

02:32:59.000 --> 02:33:03.000
of my pocket check the password and log in there but no your first flow is the like correct one

02:33:03.000 --> 02:33:07.000
because yeah you are going to have to use it again anyways like you said and then the hilarious one

02:33:07.000 --> 02:33:11.000
is that I have my pass key for

02:33:11.000 --> 02:33:15.000
my Microsoft account on my phone anyway so if I have to use

02:33:15.000 --> 02:33:19.000
my pass key then I have to biometrically authenticate my phone click a thing

02:33:19.000 --> 02:33:23.000
biometrically authenticate again click another thing yes it's me

02:33:23.000 --> 02:33:27.000
I have to give them credit Google's login is fantastic

02:33:27.000 --> 02:33:31.000
it's pretty okay oh is it you do you have your phone click yes

02:33:31.000 --> 02:33:35.000
alright yeah yep

02:33:35.000 --> 02:33:39.000
like oh hey it's pretty okay it's pretty okay compared to like basically everything out there

02:33:39.000 --> 02:33:43.000
right now it's pretty good it often doesn't give me that option because it gets confused by all my devices and locations

02:33:43.000 --> 02:33:47.000
and it's contextual it gives you that option

02:33:47.000 --> 02:33:51.000
when it is like pretty sure yep

02:33:51.000 --> 02:33:55.000
I do think that's cool though also belltrick says these are some first world problems

02:33:55.000 --> 02:33:59.000
I mean what they are is their work frustrations and I think that's

02:33:59.000 --> 02:34:03.000
something that we can probably all relate to anyone yeah like if there's anything

02:34:03.000 --> 02:34:07.000
that you have to do at work that is completely unnecessary

02:34:07.000 --> 02:34:11.000
in terms of like productivity it doesn't create

02:34:11.000 --> 02:34:15.000
absolutely necessary mister I have to have admin to everything in terms of productivity

02:34:15.000 --> 02:34:19.000
it generates nothing but it is necessary for security

02:34:19.000 --> 02:34:23.000
I know but it's not productive though that's all I'm saying it doesn't get any work done

02:34:23.000 --> 02:34:27.000
yeah yeah it gets zero anything

02:34:27.000 --> 02:34:31.000
accomplished so yeah it's it's frustrating and it just it takes

02:34:31.000 --> 02:34:35.000
it's a it's a time sap it's not it doesn't

02:34:35.000 --> 02:34:39.000
make me more efficient it doesn't make me happier it doesn't make me more productive

02:34:39.000 --> 02:34:41.000
it just is annoying

02:34:47.000 --> 02:34:51.000
oh my god just easy you became putting a wall I'm going crazy that I can't

02:34:51.000 --> 02:34:55.000
explain more that that just will not solve the problem

02:34:55.000 --> 02:34:59.000
the the on my keys thing was like one version

02:34:59.000 --> 02:35:03.000
of why it won't work and also all the services that it doesn't

02:35:03.000 --> 02:35:07.000
work for and also just all the

02:35:07.000 --> 02:35:11.000
times that it's not convenient like some help in some ways sometimes I'll be using

02:35:11.000 --> 02:35:15.000
a device like this this happened a lot back when I was trying to use my

02:35:15.000 --> 02:35:19.000
UB key is I would be using a device that doesn't have a type A port

02:35:19.000 --> 02:35:23.000
it doesn't happen as often anymore but sometimes well it's going to start happening more and more

02:35:23.000 --> 02:35:27.000
sometimes these things happen it's it's laptops are going all type C which there are

02:35:27.000 --> 02:35:31.000
type C ones when there might be double ended ones Monty Hawk says dude you're an edge case

02:35:31.000 --> 02:35:35.000
yes that's the whole point of the conversation

02:35:35.000 --> 02:35:39.000
obviously obviously yes

02:35:41.000 --> 02:35:45.000
come on however

02:35:45.000 --> 02:35:49.000
however the fact that this happens

02:35:49.000 --> 02:35:53.000
so much that it is very frustrating for me

02:35:53.000 --> 02:35:57.000
is not does not mean that

02:35:57.000 --> 02:36:01.000
for someone else for whom it is not that frustrating and doesn't happen that often

02:36:01.000 --> 02:36:05.000
doesn't mean that it couldn't be better for them too it doesn't mean that my edge case

02:36:05.000 --> 02:36:09.000
has no possible learning outcomes that could be applied

02:36:09.000 --> 02:36:13.000
to other things could log in be better could security

02:36:13.000 --> 02:36:17.000
be better and smoother for the user I yeah I think we can probably

02:36:17.000 --> 02:36:21.000
all agree that it could be better does everyone have the same level of frustration

02:36:21.000 --> 02:36:25.000
with that I do absolutely not but it could absolutely

02:36:25.000 --> 02:36:29.000
also be better all right

02:36:29.000 --> 02:36:33.000
I don't think there's a unless I'm looking at this picture wrong

02:36:33.000 --> 02:36:37.000
I don't think there's a UB key that is A and

02:36:37.000 --> 02:36:41.000
C there's A and sorry there's C in lightning

02:36:41.000 --> 02:36:45.000
there's just A and there's just C

02:36:45.000 --> 02:36:49.000
I don't think there's A and C

02:36:49.000 --> 02:36:53.000
meaning that you're always going to have at least some amount of problem

02:36:53.000 --> 02:36:55.000
neat

02:36:57.000 --> 02:37:01.000
well I will continue to be frustrated about it and it'll be great

02:37:01.000 --> 02:37:05.000
oh this is nice Google has shut down nest gen 2's

02:37:05.000 --> 02:37:09.000
and this is the best part

02:37:09.000 --> 02:37:13.000
they simply refuse to allow it to be controlled locally

02:37:13.000 --> 02:37:17.000
it is now e-waste nice

02:37:17.000 --> 02:37:21.000
terrific and I was talking about some smart home stuff recently and I said

02:37:21.000 --> 02:37:25.000
sure I will finally give up but if I do

02:37:25.000 --> 02:37:29.000
I have to ask to support Home Assistant

02:37:29.000 --> 02:37:33.000
I'm not getting anything that is not able to be locally controlled

02:37:33.000 --> 02:37:37.000
you shouldn't have to even through

02:37:37.000 --> 02:37:41.000
like third party integrations I didn't find any category of device

02:37:41.000 --> 02:37:45.000
that there wasn't an option for I meant individual products

02:37:45.000 --> 02:37:49.000
yeah yeah so the discussion

02:37:49.000 --> 02:37:53.000
over in r slash Home Assistant does it still work in Home Assistant

02:37:53.000 --> 02:37:57.000
there's a bounty out there for it if it does and okhawk says the device uses

02:37:57.000 --> 02:38:01.000
signed firmware there's literally a key that Google has in their

02:38:01.000 --> 02:38:05.000
possession that would unlock the capabilities of the device but Google is

02:38:05.000 --> 02:38:09.000
keeping it from device owners while simultaneously killing the devices that's what makes

02:38:09.000 --> 02:38:13.000
this whole scenario so absurd we really

02:38:13.000 --> 02:38:17.000
do need to legislate that people own the stuff

02:38:17.000 --> 02:38:21.000
they buy and they don't it doesn't have to be

02:38:21.000 --> 02:38:25.000
maintained anymore by the device manufacturer

02:38:25.000 --> 02:38:29.000
I think that there's got to be some kind of limit

02:38:29.000 --> 02:38:33.000
for how long you have to support a game or a service or a product

02:38:33.000 --> 02:38:37.000
like in 100 years I wouldn't expect Google's cloud servers

02:38:37.000 --> 02:38:41.000
to necessarily still talk to a nest too alright

02:38:41.000 --> 02:38:45.000
in 200 years like wherever there's got to be somewhere you've got to draw a line

02:38:45.000 --> 02:38:49.000
but when they EOL it they've got to

02:38:49.000 --> 02:38:53.000
allow local interaction with it they've got to open source it

02:38:53.000 --> 02:38:57.000
they've got to do something yeah and pk7 said it

02:38:57.000 --> 02:39:01.000
somewhere I'm pretty sure but I can't find it in chat now

02:39:01.000 --> 02:39:05.000
so I think it was pk7 of someone else no it was

02:39:05.000 --> 02:39:09.000
this is from the same company that actually thought to convert Stadia controllers to bluetooth

02:39:09.000 --> 02:39:13.000
it is interesting just different teams massive massive orgs

02:39:13.000 --> 02:39:17.000
and different teams just acting differently so pretty frustrating just wanted to shine a light

02:39:17.000 --> 02:39:21.000
and say hey that's pretty uncool Google

02:39:21.000 --> 02:39:25.000
very uncool apparently there's

02:39:25.000 --> 02:39:29.000
nooky just posted a reddit thread that apparently there's a team of people working to

02:39:29.000 --> 02:39:33.000
crack them open that's obviously not a good thing

02:39:33.000 --> 02:39:37.000
this isn't like hurray Google did a good thing but

02:39:37.000 --> 02:39:41.000
looks like the community might be trying to react to it which is cool

02:39:41.000 --> 02:39:45.000
cool shout out C C K O Simba

02:39:45.000 --> 02:39:49.000
yeah yeah there's nothing really to look at now

02:39:49.000 --> 02:39:53.000
they're saying that they should have it up on github by Monday the latest that's really exciting

02:39:53.000 --> 02:39:55.000
very cool let's go

02:39:57.000 --> 02:40:01.000
neat all right what else we got

02:40:03.000 --> 02:40:07.000
LTT Labs articles yeah speaking of cool and neat I guess

02:40:07.000 --> 02:40:11.000
we've got the two Labs articles we've got the Apple 40 watt

02:40:11.000 --> 02:40:15.000
dynamic power adapter thing

02:40:15.000 --> 02:40:19.000
which I thought was kind of interesting because it came by default in the

02:40:19.000 --> 02:40:23.000
Apple vision pro box

02:40:23.000 --> 02:40:27.000
so as I was like unboxing that I got all excited about the power adapter because I was like

02:40:27.000 --> 02:40:31.000
we have an article on this which might be the lamest

02:40:31.000 --> 02:40:35.000
thing I've done in a while but yeah we've got that article because Lucas was

02:40:35.000 --> 02:40:39.000
basically like all right how does that work

02:40:39.000 --> 02:40:43.000
yeah because it was dynamic charging the only power adapter

02:40:43.000 --> 02:40:47.000
that can achieve the claimed 50% battery in 20 minutes of the iPhone

02:40:47.000 --> 02:40:51.000
1717 pro and 17 pro max

02:40:51.000 --> 02:40:55.000
so can it what does it mean etc if you scroll down to the bottom

02:40:55.000 --> 02:40:59.000
dynamic of course we had to

02:40:59.000 --> 02:41:01.000
check it out on the x-ray

02:41:03.000 --> 02:41:07.000
this is so cool shout out Luma field for making it

02:41:07.000 --> 02:41:11.000
so easy for us to see the inside so happy they've let us hold on to that

02:41:11.000 --> 02:41:15.000
dude it's so cool absolute bros but yeah to just

02:41:15.000 --> 02:41:19.000
keep going with Lucas's notes here Labs investigated whether logi bolt is really

02:41:19.000 --> 02:41:23.000
bluetooth bl le we're not going to talk anymore about what I'm coming back to it or

02:41:23.000 --> 02:41:27.000
not and Apple's new 40 watt dynamic power adapter for the 40 watt

02:41:27.000 --> 02:41:31.000
dynamic power adapter the new USB-C power adapter from Apple which guarantees

02:41:31.000 --> 02:41:35.000
40 watt output but will boost to 60 watts we tested

02:41:35.000 --> 02:41:39.000
how this will actually interact while your phone is charging iphone's

02:41:39.000 --> 02:41:43.000
charge below 40 watts anyways and some longer term test

02:41:43.000 --> 02:41:47.000
to determine when it drops to 40 watts and we're potentially going to test some stuff

02:41:47.000 --> 02:41:51.000
with it later on as well but if you go down even further

02:41:53.000 --> 02:41:57.000
keep going this graph is quite interesting

02:41:57.000 --> 02:42:01.000
so it's a little bit hard for me to read it from there maybe I should just bring it up myself

02:42:01.000 --> 02:42:05.000
but you've got the output power and the input power of the actual

02:42:05.000 --> 02:42:09.000
unit the charger and then we're thinking that

02:42:09.000 --> 02:42:13.000
so time is your your x and wattage is your y

02:42:13.000 --> 02:42:17.000
so we're thinking that it because it stays at 60 for quite a while at the beginning

02:42:17.000 --> 02:42:21.000
and we think it's thermal so it's getting too hot

02:42:21.000 --> 02:42:25.000
going down to 40 cooling enough going back up

02:42:25.000 --> 02:42:29.000
to 60 and coming back down we think that's what's going on

02:42:29.000 --> 02:42:33.000
interesting but don't know duty cycle of

02:42:33.000 --> 02:42:37.000
roughly 66% after the initial warming up

02:42:39.000 --> 02:42:43.000
huh so on average about 50.33 watts

02:42:45.000 --> 02:42:49.000
this goes slightly against my theory of apple building a 60 watt charger

02:42:49.000 --> 02:42:53.000
that couldn't achieve their temperature limits 51 watts is quite far off of

02:42:53.000 --> 02:42:57.000
60 watts if this is interesting to you I suggest you

02:42:57.000 --> 02:43:01.000
check out all things one place who conducts power adapter testing regularly

02:43:01.000 --> 02:43:05.000
and made a video about the 40 watt dynamic charger very cool great article

02:43:05.000 --> 02:43:09.000
I also read the the bolt um

02:43:09.000 --> 02:43:13.000
logi bolt article it was awesome yeah basically

02:43:13.000 --> 02:43:17.000
that was uh like you know in a in a in a ShortCircuit

02:43:17.000 --> 02:43:21.000
video we said it was just a bluetooth dongle which is a downer

02:43:21.000 --> 02:43:25.000
people got mad so we were like all right well let's uh let's dive into

02:43:25.000 --> 02:43:29.000
this let's reach out to logitech let's get information from them let's

02:43:29.000 --> 02:43:33.000
uh kind of pull some of our testing together and look into what this thing is

02:43:33.000 --> 02:43:37.000
and as it turns out from a performance standpoint it's just bluetooth

02:43:37.000 --> 02:43:41.000
from a performance standpoint yeah which is a little bit more to it exactly

02:43:41.000 --> 02:43:45.000
why it was a bit of a downer but also there is more to it

02:43:45.000 --> 02:43:49.000
and the community was right yes that um it does have

02:43:49.000 --> 02:43:53.000
advantages over just just bluetooth but yeah check out the

02:43:53.000 --> 02:43:57.000
lab site we've we've been pushing a lot of articles lately

02:43:57.000 --> 02:44:01.000
and we want to keep doing this I think Lucas has been

02:44:01.000 --> 02:44:05.000
um taking the charge on a lot of these of like

02:44:05.000 --> 02:44:09.000
having a question of like what is this thing

02:44:09.000 --> 02:44:13.000
how does it work and then just deciding that you know what if we had

02:44:13.000 --> 02:44:17.000
that question probably someone else did too let's let's follow it up

02:44:17.000 --> 02:44:21.000
let's try to figure it out um also clearly like with the the

02:44:21.000 --> 02:44:25.000
logi bolt one um if if we get

02:44:25.000 --> 02:44:29.000
called out on something which might be fair like it was here we're going to try to dive

02:44:29.000 --> 02:44:33.000
into that and learn more as well this is a knowledge base expansion for for us for

02:44:33.000 --> 02:44:37.000
our companies and hopefully for you guys as well so um

02:44:37.000 --> 02:44:41.000
this one's really good too I've read this one why the AirPods Pro 3

02:44:41.000 --> 02:44:45.000
are a nightmare to test uh very interesting

02:44:45.000 --> 02:44:49.000
very different frequency response

02:44:49.000 --> 02:44:53.000
uh at different volume levels I had some people

02:44:53.000 --> 02:44:57.000
really mad about us saying that in the ShortCircuit they were like no

02:44:57.000 --> 02:45:01.000
that's not how it works but it does

02:45:01.000 --> 02:45:05.000
if the manufacturer tunes it to do that which is

02:45:05.000 --> 02:45:09.000
exactly why we were saying yeah it's kind of weird um we worked with

02:45:09.000 --> 02:45:13.000
Griffin from the headphone show on that one um pretty cool yeah we're also

02:45:13.000 --> 02:45:17.000
trying to use this as like somewhat of a collaboration thing so we can like work with

02:45:17.000 --> 02:45:21.000
certain external experts and stuff do you see our Buffalo makes a really good

02:45:21.000 --> 02:45:25.000
point TechLink should be promoting new Labs articles

02:45:27.000 --> 02:45:31.000
like primary source articles from the Labs like why not

02:45:31.000 --> 02:45:35.000
it's news duh

02:45:35.000 --> 02:45:39.000
seems kind of obvious to me definitely thought about that

02:45:39.000 --> 02:45:43.000
yeah I never thought of it either that's cool like we have a new show

02:45:43.000 --> 02:45:47.000
okay cool good chat neat I want to talk about

02:45:47.000 --> 02:45:51.000
oh hold on let's do this really quick YouTuber CyperCPU

02:45:51.000 --> 02:45:55.000
has accused Microsoft of orchestrating YouTube's removal of some of his

02:45:55.000 --> 02:45:59.000
Windows 11 tutorials that enable users to install the OS on non-supported hardware

02:45:59.000 --> 02:46:03.000
and without an online connection for violating the

02:46:03.000 --> 02:46:07.000
platform's community guidelines after appealing the takedowns

02:46:07.000 --> 02:46:11.000
he received a vague answer as to why the videos had been removed from YouTube that said

02:46:11.000 --> 02:46:15.000
the warning strike you received was issued based on a violation of

02:46:15.000 --> 02:46:19.000
harmful or dangerous content which prohibits content that encourages or promotes

02:46:19.000 --> 02:46:23.000
behavior that encourages dangerous or illegal activities that risk

02:46:23.000 --> 02:46:27.000
serious physical harm or death does bypassing TPM

02:46:27.000 --> 02:46:31.000
2.0 really pose a serious risk of physical harm or death?

02:46:31.000 --> 02:46:35.000
no if Microsoft is threatening

02:46:35.000 --> 02:46:39.000
to kill or harm you if you don't take them down

02:46:39.000 --> 02:46:43.000
very good very good our discussion question

02:46:43.000 --> 02:46:47.000
here is why does Microsoft want to prevent people from using older computers with Windows 11?

02:46:47.000 --> 02:46:51.000
why do they care? I don't know

02:46:51.000 --> 02:46:55.000
it's been a little strange to me too especially because it's like

02:46:55.000 --> 02:46:59.000
not that hard to bypass yeah so like

02:46:59.000 --> 02:47:03.000
yeah why specifically are YouTube videos getting taken down

02:47:03.000 --> 02:47:07.000
like it's not like you can't find these resources so can we just very easily

02:47:07.000 --> 02:47:11.000
can we just not? that'd be cool

02:47:11.000 --> 02:47:15.000
good chat I want to talk about how

02:47:15.000 --> 02:47:19.000
I want to point out one thing really quick I just I don't know I showed it out

02:47:19.000 --> 02:47:23.000
Lucas for coming up with cool articles and pursuing them and writing them and stuff

02:47:23.000 --> 02:47:27.000
and that has been great thank you Lucas I also want to say that this has been like

02:47:27.000 --> 02:47:31.000
a team effort from the lab so

02:47:31.000 --> 02:47:35.000
I didn't want to just single out only only Lucas it's been it's been cool

02:47:35.000 --> 02:47:39.000
I've been really enjoying that and one of our like

02:47:39.000 --> 02:47:43.000
working order things for a bit now and continuing forward has just been

02:47:43.000 --> 02:47:47.000
yeah if there's an interesting question follow it up so it's been I've appreciated

02:47:47.000 --> 02:47:51.000
that the whole team has embraced that professionally curious is exactly

02:47:51.000 --> 02:47:55.000
what we want in a department like that okay I got one more quick one here

02:47:55.000 --> 02:47:59.000
AMD releases new Zen 2

02:47:59.000 --> 02:48:03.000
and Zen 3 plus CPUs as Ryzen 10

02:48:03.000 --> 02:48:07.000
and Ryzen 100 these new

02:48:07.000 --> 02:48:11.000
CPUs based on Zen 2 include the Athlon Silver 10

02:48:11.000 --> 02:48:15.000
which is a dual core the Athlon Gold 20

02:48:15.000 --> 02:48:19.000
which is also a dual core although at least it has SMT

02:48:19.000 --> 02:48:23.000
the Ryzen 330 a quad core and the Ryzen 5

02:48:23.000 --> 02:48:25.000
40 also a quad core

02:48:27.000 --> 02:48:31.000
the new Rembrandt CPUs based on Zen 3 plus are the Ryzen 3

02:48:31.000 --> 02:48:35.000
110 the Ryzen 5 130 the Ryzen 5 150 Ryzen 7

02:48:35.000 --> 02:48:39.000
Ryzen 7 based on Zen 3 plus now

02:48:39.000 --> 02:48:43.000
come on man Ryzen 7

02:48:43.000 --> 02:48:47.000
170 8 cores up to 4.57 gigahertz what are they doing

02:48:47.000 --> 02:48:51.000
why do they need to do this can they just have the old can people can we just know it's an old

02:48:51.000 --> 02:48:55.000
CPU and then just buy an old CPU

02:48:57.000 --> 02:49:01.000
exhausting I'm

02:49:01.000 --> 02:49:05.000
tired of it what we have is

02:49:05.000 --> 02:49:09.000
driving Chinese EVs I don't know if you saw this

02:49:09.000 --> 02:49:13.000
Prime Minister Mark Carney Canada's relationship with China is at a

02:49:13.000 --> 02:49:17.000
turning point control F hold on oh no

02:49:17.000 --> 02:49:19.000
I

02:49:21.000 --> 02:49:25.000
hold on hold on hold on

02:49:27.000 --> 02:49:31.000
hold on where is it here we go

02:49:31.000 --> 02:49:35.000
here we go hold on this is not

02:49:35.000 --> 02:49:39.000
oh yeah okay they discussed

02:49:39.000 --> 02:49:43.000
solutions to respective sensitivities regarding issues including agriculture

02:49:43.000 --> 02:49:47.000
and agri-food products such as canola as well as seafood and

02:49:47.000 --> 02:49:51.000
electric vehicles according to the readout

02:49:51.000 --> 02:49:55.000
so I don't know if folks know this but in lockstep with the US

02:49:55.000 --> 02:49:59.000
Canada introduced 100% tariffs on

02:49:59.000 --> 02:50:03.000
Chinese EVs a number of years ago which has made it basically

02:50:03.000 --> 02:50:07.000
impossible for Chinese EV makers to import their vehicles

02:50:07.000 --> 02:50:11.000
into Canada there's been a couple of exceptions vinfast tried

02:50:11.000 --> 02:50:15.000
to kind of launch here and I think I've seen like two on the road but

02:50:15.000 --> 02:50:19.000
I've not had a ton of success because with a 100%

02:50:19.000 --> 02:50:23.000
tariff it's pretty hard to ship over here and

02:50:23.000 --> 02:50:27.000
I don't think vinfast set up manufacturing here in any capacity

02:50:27.000 --> 02:50:31.000
vinfast manufacturing in Canada

02:50:31.000 --> 02:50:35.000
I don't think they did so they do not have

02:50:35.000 --> 02:50:39.000
a very yeah no they have no manufacturing

02:50:39.000 --> 02:50:43.000
in Canada oh are they Vietnamese?

02:50:43.000 --> 02:50:47.000
oh they are there you go sorry vinfast you guys

02:50:47.000 --> 02:50:51.000
are a very relevant brand and I cared a lot about where

02:50:51.000 --> 02:50:55.000
you were from I'm sorry

02:50:55.000 --> 02:50:59.000
anyway what I really want to talk about today

02:50:59.000 --> 02:51:01.000
is oh shoot do I have

02:51:05.000 --> 02:51:09.000
I was over in China recently and I did get a couple of

02:51:09.000 --> 02:51:13.000
opportunities to chill in a Chinese EV

02:51:13.000 --> 02:51:17.000
and you know how Ford CEO has gone

02:51:17.000 --> 02:51:21.000
on the record a number of times at this point basically saying hey

02:51:21.000 --> 02:51:25.000
if the North American auto industry doesn't get its act together

02:51:25.000 --> 02:51:29.000
like we're cooked boys yeah

02:51:29.000 --> 02:51:33.000
I don't know if there's going to be

02:51:33.000 --> 02:51:37.000
an opportunity to get their act together

02:51:37.000 --> 02:51:41.000
it's just holding them out with tariffs that's effectively all it is now

02:51:41.000 --> 02:51:45.000
I think the cookage is

02:51:45.000 --> 02:51:49.000
basically a foregone conclusion at this point man

02:51:49.000 --> 02:51:53.000
in the car while I was over there that is going to

02:51:53.000 --> 02:51:57.000
absolutely blow your mind when I finally find the bloody picture of it

02:51:57.000 --> 02:52:01.000
and we get it up on screen here sorry

02:52:01.000 --> 02:52:05.000
my sincere apologies I don't know what is going on did I take it on the iPhone

02:52:05.000 --> 02:52:09.000
I don't think I did I

02:52:09.000 --> 02:52:13.000
quick stall for time do a merge message or something I'm sorry

02:52:13.000 --> 02:52:17.000
sure everything thank you

02:52:17.000 --> 02:52:21.000
let's see what I can find here look this might be useful for you

02:52:21.000 --> 02:52:25.000
hi DLL what's the worst case of we don't need a pro you've seen

02:52:25.000 --> 02:52:29.000
I was helping run Wi-Fi for a festival 35,000 attendees with

02:52:29.000 --> 02:52:33.000
80 unify ap's a marketing guy suggested replacing the system

02:52:33.000 --> 02:52:37.000
with starlings what

02:52:37.000 --> 02:52:41.000
nice worst case

02:52:41.000 --> 02:52:45.000
of we don't need a pro I'm afraid you've seen some here

02:52:45.000 --> 02:52:49.000
our entire company we can do that

02:52:49.000 --> 02:52:53.000
we reinvent a lot of wheels let's just hire a recent graduate

02:52:53.000 --> 02:52:57.000
should be fine figure it out

02:52:57.000 --> 02:53:01.000
and it's way better for the content to figure it out as we go

02:53:01.000 --> 02:53:05.000
yeah no I'm not a

02:53:05.000 --> 02:53:09.000
convenient store robber I'm Duke from the season before

02:53:09.000 --> 02:53:13.000
the last season of skype redwood that's pretty good too though

02:53:13.000 --> 02:53:17.000
I don't know there's a ton of examples of that

02:53:17.000 --> 02:53:21.000
it like here I mean we

02:53:21.000 --> 02:53:25.000
we don't need a pro this is I'm slightly copping out

02:53:25.000 --> 02:53:29.000
by saying we can just do this ourselves instead of use an external service

02:53:29.000 --> 02:53:33.000
so series of professionals maybe I was going to say full play

02:53:33.000 --> 02:53:37.000
nice like oh you can do that that was crazy that was stupid

02:53:37.000 --> 02:53:41.000
that was probably one of the most brutal ones we've ever done yeah

02:53:41.000 --> 02:53:45.000
it's working but like like my goodness

02:53:45.000 --> 02:53:49.000
it literally is like a multi-million dollar a year

02:53:49.000 --> 02:53:53.000
success multi-platform at this point

02:53:53.000 --> 02:53:57.000
it's working it's just it powers us, sauce plus

02:53:57.000 --> 02:54:01.000
a lot of other creators on Floatplane like I don't know man

02:54:01.000 --> 02:54:05.000
we kind of you know yeah you kind of did it

02:54:05.000 --> 02:54:09.000
it has cool future plans the team's kind of amazing

02:54:09.000 --> 02:54:13.000
we finally have a dev team yeah which is cool

02:54:13.000 --> 02:54:17.000
who has done all kinds of other cool stuff like I don't know

02:54:17.000 --> 02:54:21.000
I really like working on Floatplane stuff our whole like

02:54:21.000 --> 02:54:25.000
I just do, feels like home I feel like we kind of fail upward a lot

02:54:25.000 --> 02:54:29.000
you know you know what I mean right

02:54:29.000 --> 02:54:33.000
not in the way that that normally is meant right like failing upwards is when you're like incompetent

02:54:33.000 --> 02:54:37.000
and you get kind of pushed out but into like a higher position

02:54:37.000 --> 02:54:41.000
kind of like a nepotism sort of connotation like we but we've just managed to

02:54:41.000 --> 02:54:45.000
screw up our way to the top but like

02:54:45.000 --> 02:54:49.000
like it actually worked like it didn't fail yeah but it should have

02:54:49.000 --> 02:54:53.000
yeah it was just way harder than it needed to be

02:54:53.000 --> 02:54:57.000
that was most of it decision-making failure

02:54:57.000 --> 02:55:01.000
I had a lot of conversations with people where it would start as like

02:55:01.000 --> 02:55:05.000
you shouldn't do this because you can't and then it would end up being like

02:55:05.000 --> 02:55:09.000
okay fine

02:55:09.000 --> 02:55:13.000
you can but like why I didn't listen to that part

02:55:13.000 --> 02:55:17.000
I just listened to that you can't like no we can

02:55:23.000 --> 02:55:27.000
yeah did you figure your thing out yeah yeah

02:55:29.000 --> 02:55:33.000
I rode okay don't wait not yet

02:55:33.000 --> 02:55:37.000
so I rode in a couple of cars so one of them was part of the Huawei demo at their

02:55:37.000 --> 02:55:41.000
flagship store which includes everything if I was asked to

02:55:41.000 --> 02:55:45.000
design a store to showcase everything from like wearables to TVs

02:55:45.000 --> 02:55:49.000
to automobiles I wouldn't even know where to start but honestly they kind of nailed it

02:55:49.000 --> 02:55:53.000
so they had some cars that had like partner technologies in their

02:55:53.000 --> 02:55:57.000
showroom so we went a test drive and one and it's got

02:55:57.000 --> 02:56:01.000
voice activation this and assisted driving whatever

02:56:01.000 --> 02:56:05.000
that and like you know it's kind of cool

02:56:05.000 --> 02:56:09.000
but this one the one that they used

02:56:09.000 --> 02:56:13.000
to drive us between the locations where they were just like showing off Huawei technology

02:56:13.000 --> 02:56:17.000
integrations and vehicles absolutely blew my mind

02:56:17.000 --> 02:56:19.000
and I agree with Ford CEO

02:56:21.000 --> 02:56:25.000
we're cooked over here we're cooked check this out

02:56:25.000 --> 02:56:29.000
first one yeah so this is me and Sharad

02:56:29.000 --> 02:56:33.000
in the back of a whatever this is I actually can't remember what the model name is

02:56:33.000 --> 02:56:37.000
so that's embarrassing we have a starry night sky

02:56:37.000 --> 02:56:41.000
thing above us sure in the

02:56:41.000 --> 02:56:45.000
next to by Sharad's

02:56:45.000 --> 02:56:49.000
elbow okay so you can see all the seat adjustments in there and then right next to

02:56:49.000 --> 02:56:53.000
that each seat has a little like pop out

02:56:53.000 --> 02:56:57.000
phone like device that you can use to control the

02:56:57.000 --> 02:57:01.000
various functions in the car including the heating

02:57:01.000 --> 02:57:05.000
cooling of your seat the temperature

02:57:05.000 --> 02:57:09.000
of the fridge that's between us so there's a little like

02:57:09.000 --> 02:57:13.000
fridge that could hold maybe like a wine bottle or a couple of other drinks

02:57:13.000 --> 02:57:17.000
in between us where that like Kleenex thing is

02:57:17.000 --> 02:57:21.000
okay now

02:57:21.000 --> 02:57:25.000
are you a little impressed yeah but it just looks like

02:57:25.000 --> 02:57:29.000
an expensive back of a car all right hit them with the next one

02:57:29.000 --> 02:57:33.000
wow so

02:57:33.000 --> 02:57:37.000
you could mod that in but it's a

02:57:37.000 --> 02:57:41.000
it's very pit my ride so in between our heads

02:57:41.000 --> 02:57:45.000
is a projector and you press a button

02:57:45.000 --> 02:57:49.000
that lowers a projector screen

02:57:49.000 --> 02:57:53.000
the Windows what's it called

02:57:53.000 --> 02:57:57.000
electro-chromatic leg room is this a really long car

02:57:57.000 --> 02:58:01.000
it's meant to be it's the kind of car you're meant to be

02:58:01.000 --> 02:58:05.000
a passenger vehicle or whatever it's called yeah so it's kind of competing with

02:58:05.000 --> 02:58:09.000
like you know the roles the Maybach

02:58:09.000 --> 02:58:13.000
exactly and okay sorry what was I saying

02:58:13.000 --> 02:58:17.000
so the projector screen comes down

02:58:17.000 --> 02:58:21.000
there is a camera you can see there's a webcam up at the top of the

02:58:21.000 --> 02:58:25.000
so you can like take a conference call it's good

02:58:25.000 --> 02:58:29.000
sure but also so you can take a conference call

02:58:29.000 --> 02:58:33.000
you know and have all the other meeting

02:58:33.000 --> 02:58:37.000
attendees on the projector screen the Windows are

02:58:37.000 --> 02:58:41.000
I believe they are what's it called

02:58:41.000 --> 02:58:45.000
electro-chromic and they have like a filter

02:58:45.000 --> 02:58:49.000
that comes up so they have like a sunshade that comes up to make it actually quite dark

02:58:49.000 --> 02:58:53.000
in the back there's wireless charging

02:58:53.000 --> 02:58:57.000
in the armrest there's two little slips where you can

02:58:57.000 --> 02:59:01.000
slip your phone into right by that piece of paper nice I see that

02:59:01.000 --> 02:59:05.000
Sherrod was joking really all these features and no cupholder

02:59:05.000 --> 02:59:09.000
retractable cupholder that's under where the charging is

02:59:09.000 --> 02:59:13.000
so you kind of hit a button and then it pops out in between us

02:59:13.000 --> 02:59:17.000
the seats fully recline and adjust oh they have massage

02:59:17.000 --> 02:59:21.000
and cooling and one of the really wild features

02:59:21.000 --> 02:59:25.000
you can go back to us is it includes a privacy mode

02:59:25.000 --> 02:59:29.000
so that the passengers in the front can't hear you

02:59:29.000 --> 02:59:33.000
or the front passenger and the driver can't hear you

02:59:33.000 --> 02:59:37.000
and we were like okay well that's stupid there's no way that works

02:59:37.000 --> 02:59:41.000
and then Sherrod pressed it and it turns out that it doesn't just try to like

02:59:41.000 --> 02:59:45.000
ANC what you're saying because that would be we don't have that technology

02:59:45.000 --> 02:59:49.000
but what it does is it adds it like an echo loop

02:59:49.000 --> 02:59:53.000
and a bunch of sort of noise

02:59:53.000 --> 02:59:57.000
it sort of salts the data so to speak

02:59:57.000 --> 03:00:01.000
while probably also doing the ANC stuff yeah

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I didn't actually try sitting in the front unfortunately

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I didn't really get a chance but pretty wild

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now was it this thing oh yeah that's it

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yeah so no key found it of course hold on hold on don't look too closely yet

03:00:17.000 --> 03:00:21.000
I want you to I want you to guess

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what it costs I stopped it from being there but it's still on my screen

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hold on hold on hold on okay first of all

03:00:29.000 --> 03:00:33.000
so what does it look like

03:00:33.000 --> 03:00:37.000
what's a ghost cost okay 400k is my guess

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600k if you don't customize anything

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the options blah blah which currency are we talking

03:00:45.000 --> 03:00:49.000
commission you don't buy you don't buy a ghost you commission

03:00:49.000 --> 03:00:53.000
a ghost so I actually don't remember how much they cost

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oh yes do they even have a starting price

03:00:57.000 --> 03:01:01.000
for crying out loud make an inquiry okay forget it the point

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is probably about half a million dollars by the time you actually like

03:01:05.000 --> 03:01:09.000
do anything is the ghost the expensive one I don't even think that's the top

03:01:09.000 --> 03:01:13.000
of the line though that's like their that's like their kind of their workhorse

03:01:13.000 --> 03:01:17.000
is my understanding I don't I don't know their lineup extremely well I've never

03:01:17.000 --> 03:01:21.000
bought a rolls sorry uh

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lowest possible is like 355

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okay what I'm seeing it can go a lot higher is the phantom their

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starter I actually can't remember the peasant spine

03:01:33.000 --> 03:01:37.000
ghost yeah I'm actually not sure I think the cullinan is higher end that's the

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suv right yeah uh

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I don't know what the specter is yeah I can't remember

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okay anyway anyway

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how much do you think the mic stroll costs 80k

03:01:55.000 --> 03:01:59.000
okay why would you why would you guess that

03:01:59.000 --> 03:02:03.000
I don't know I didn't look it up I don't I'm assuming I'm

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not correct no you're not right but yeah I'm just wondering why you would guess

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$80,000 like what could what else could you buy for $80,000 it's it's like

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cheaper than the high-end Teslas

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but more expensive than like I don't know other stuff

03:02:19.000 --> 03:02:23.000
starts at about 100k okay but we're still

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it's an EV so it comes with like batteries

03:02:27.000 --> 03:02:31.000
which are a cost that you know a gasoline competitor

03:02:31.000 --> 03:02:35.000
doesn't have to deal with yeah um so you you never have to put

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gas in it it is

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like you're sitting on a couch basically in the back of it it's crazy

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I did I think I told you when I was in China I got

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chauffeured around one time in the back of a Maybach and I had

03:02:51.000 --> 03:02:55.000
the same feeling I sat in that chair and was just like what the heck

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it's weird it feels almost uncanny it's like

03:02:59.000 --> 03:03:03.000
this isn't a car what am I in right now so the price

03:03:03.000 --> 03:03:07.000
range is 100 to 140

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for this and look I'll be honest with you guys

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I've never even sat in a ghost I've never I've never sat in a Rolls-Royce

03:03:15.000 --> 03:03:19.000
but to my ignorant you know

03:03:19.000 --> 03:03:23.000
unrefined buttock

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I'm looking at this I'm looking at this thing going

03:03:29.000 --> 03:03:33.000
how is it realistically going to get way beyond

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this thing this would be the pinnacle

03:03:37.000 --> 03:03:41.000
of luxury to most people some of these pictures are nuts

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yeah here let's see this is the

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I can't make these bigger mic straw or whatever

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I mean you can just zoom your browser just to give it the little two finger

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you know what I'm saying oh yeah did I

03:03:57.000 --> 03:04:01.000
oh yeah did I mention the starry sky in it has like different

03:04:01.000 --> 03:04:05.000
modes it can twinkle it can do shooting stars

03:04:05.000 --> 03:04:09.000
the starry sky feels like a rip a bit of a rip

03:04:09.000 --> 03:04:13.000
huge huge screens

03:04:13.000 --> 03:04:17.000
it's something that people do in Rolls-Royce though

03:04:17.000 --> 03:04:21.000
that's what I'm saying I think it's a rip oh a rip off 100%

03:04:21.000 --> 03:04:25.000
100% in the yeah those speakers in the chair

03:04:25.000 --> 03:04:29.000
sure why not like it's it's loaded

03:04:29.000 --> 03:04:33.000
for bear man wow

03:04:35.000 --> 03:04:39.000
is this is this like the seat in front of them is gone

03:04:39.000 --> 03:04:43.000
oh no it folds down yeah okay yeah that's wild

03:04:43.000 --> 03:04:47.000
so you can get extremely comfy is this this is someone's

03:04:47.000 --> 03:04:51.000
phone or is this the tablet thing you're talking that's the little tablet controller thing

03:04:51.000 --> 03:04:55.000
so it's pretty wild dude

03:04:55.000 --> 03:04:59.000
oh yeah it has the airplane table fold out thing I forgot about that

03:04:59.000 --> 03:05:03.000
no no on the left yeah so you have a little table at both of the

03:05:03.000 --> 03:05:07.000
back seats laptop or whatever yep or you can eat or you're

03:05:07.000 --> 03:05:11.000
swishky trunk yep

03:05:11.000 --> 03:05:13.000
trunk

03:05:15.000 --> 03:05:17.000
what is this

03:05:18.000 --> 03:05:20.000
I think they're trying to show matrix headlamps

03:05:23.000 --> 03:05:25.000
no I don't think so

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interesting

03:05:32.000 --> 03:05:34.000
yeah

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huh all right it's available in multiple options

03:05:39.000 --> 03:05:43.000
okay yep all right anyway

03:05:43.000 --> 03:05:47.000
very interesting it's uh

03:05:47.000 --> 03:05:51.000
I had I I had been you know reading about

03:05:51.000 --> 03:05:55.000
following from a distance so that are a cyber truck right

03:05:55.000 --> 03:05:59.000
like seriously though yeah I

03:05:59.000 --> 03:06:03.000
I don't think that would make an insane splash

03:06:03.000 --> 03:06:07.000
I don't think that would make as insane of a splash in the North American market that people might

03:06:07.000 --> 03:06:11.000
think they're gonna need a good truck

03:06:11.000 --> 03:06:15.000
oh yeah apparently BYD's truck is like 35k or something like that

03:06:15.000 --> 03:06:19.000
see like that might make a bigger splash because you've got to fight the f-150

03:06:19.000 --> 03:06:23.000
there's no like there's no ignoring the f-150 and trying to enter

03:06:23.000 --> 03:06:27.000
the North American market heck no so yeah

03:06:27.000 --> 03:06:31.000
and that's still gonna be it's BYD so I'm assuming that's an electric truck still

03:06:31.000 --> 03:06:35.000
I think it's a hybrid yeah it's it's no good 63

03:06:35.000 --> 03:06:39.000
their Ford Ranger size pickup with a one cylinder

03:06:39.000 --> 03:06:43.000
allows up to 500 miles of range and is 35,000 US dollars

03:06:43.000 --> 03:06:47.000
yeah see that'll be that's a more interesting fight

03:06:47.000 --> 03:06:51.000
in my opinion yeah opcode says how does it compare to your

03:06:51.000 --> 03:06:55.000
Taycan in terms of quality it's a very different

03:06:55.000 --> 03:06:59.000
car like it's not it's not intended to

03:06:59.000 --> 03:07:03.000
compete with a Taycan it's a floating couch yeah

03:07:03.000 --> 03:07:07.000
whisks you from location to location the Taycan is meant to be driven

03:07:07.000 --> 03:07:11.000
whereas the Mike show is intended to be driven

03:07:11.000 --> 03:07:15.000
around in right so it's totally different the Mike shows a

03:07:15.000 --> 03:07:19.000
snuggie in the Taycans like a running shoe yeah

03:07:19.000 --> 03:07:23.000
terrible analogies in terms of like like the fit and finish

03:07:23.000 --> 03:07:27.000
of it though I'll be honest with you I didn't look that closely because I was too

03:07:27.000 --> 03:07:31.000
busy being impressed by the sum of the parts rather than the

03:07:31.000 --> 03:07:35.000
individual parts sure if we were doing like a full review or something like that

03:07:35.000 --> 03:07:39.000
that would be a different story but nothing stood out to me as being junkie I can tell you

03:07:39.000 --> 03:07:43.000
that much for sure oh shoot I have

03:07:43.000 --> 03:07:47.000
to go pretty quick because I have to take my kids surprise you're still here

03:07:47.000 --> 03:07:51.000
trick or treating no no I'm good we're done the topics we're done the topics

03:07:51.000 --> 03:07:55.000
we haven't done F.P. announcement merch massages our most

03:07:55.000 --> 03:07:59.000
successful Floatplane video ever was when LMG employees

03:07:59.000 --> 03:08:03.000
shared their first memories of meeting me

03:08:03.000 --> 03:08:07.000
oh wow yep that's a pretty strong

03:08:07.000 --> 03:08:11.000
like dislike ratio um so we made a sequel

03:08:11.000 --> 03:08:15.000
featuring Yvonne Colton and Plouf who owns a

03:08:15.000 --> 03:08:19.000
display and more oh and yes there will be a video

03:08:19.000 --> 03:08:23.000
of me reacting to the sequel in November oh good I haven't done that yet but apparently

03:08:23.000 --> 03:08:27.000
we're going to be doing that so get some laughs and maybe a little bit of

03:08:27.000 --> 03:08:31.000
secondhand embarrassment at LMG.GG slash Floatplane

03:08:31.000 --> 03:08:35.000
excellent alright Dan should we do a couple merch messages?

03:08:35.000 --> 03:08:39.000
sounds good to me hit me sure let's see why does it seem

03:08:39.000 --> 03:08:43.000
like every tech tuber praises the 9070 9070

03:08:43.000 --> 03:08:47.000
XT on camera and FSR4 yada yada but off camera

03:08:47.000 --> 03:08:51.000
they're all running NVIDIA GPUs feels like a bit of do as I say not as I do

03:08:51.000 --> 03:08:55.000
I I'm running a 7900

03:08:55.000 --> 03:08:59.000
XTX let the record show so I don't know

03:08:59.000 --> 03:09:03.000
in my opinion when praise is happening they're often probably talking about

03:09:03.000 --> 03:09:07.000
price performance and then they can have whatever they want so they take the

03:09:07.000 --> 03:09:11.000
performance and do not care about the price that's the answer

03:09:11.000 --> 03:09:15.000
that's the real answer the only reason I'm running a 7900 XTX

03:09:15.000 --> 03:09:19.000
is because I committed to skipping the 40 series

03:09:19.000 --> 03:09:23.000
um and otherwise I would have just run

03:09:23.000 --> 03:09:27.000
a 4090 greetings DLL

03:09:27.000 --> 03:09:31.000
Linus with the Canadian post strike why does creator warehouse

03:09:31.000 --> 03:09:35.000
still ship to PO boxes when the LTT Store site says to avoid them

03:09:35.000 --> 03:09:39.000
I use my street address but the merch still comes Canada post

03:09:41.000 --> 03:09:45.000
wow what a tremendous question for creator warehouse customer service

03:09:45.000 --> 03:09:49.000
I think you should send them a message and maybe they

03:09:49.000 --> 03:09:53.000
can explain that I have no idea I want to shout out

03:09:53.000 --> 03:09:57.000
our amazing CW team Tony and Dave

03:09:57.000 --> 03:10:01.000
and Adam and the rest of the customer care team and Taryn

03:10:01.000 --> 03:10:05.000
and everyone who has worked really hard on you know resolving

03:10:05.000 --> 03:10:09.000
the challenging logistics situation that has taken place

03:10:09.000 --> 03:10:13.000
this year we've had to deal with tariffs from our southern neighbors we've had to deal with tariffs

03:10:13.000 --> 03:10:17.000
from our manufacturing neighbors we've had to deal with flipping

03:10:17.000 --> 03:10:21.000
the strike from Canada post we've had a lot of multiple times I think we've had a lot of

03:10:21.000 --> 03:10:25.000
on our plate this year and our team has done an amazing job of figuring

03:10:25.000 --> 03:10:29.000
out how to get your thing to you and shout out them and if you want the specifics

03:10:29.000 --> 03:10:31.000
you'll have to ask them because they're the experts

03:10:33.000 --> 03:10:37.000
what an answer good answer this guy's been doing this for a little bit professional

03:10:37.000 --> 03:10:41.000
what a guy this one I wasn't too sure about maybe you could help me

03:10:41.000 --> 03:10:45.000
parse it started an RE photo comp with a few family

03:10:45.000 --> 03:10:49.000
members and have hit 30 in revenue and we

03:10:49.000 --> 03:10:53.000
are trying to learn to scale fast and trying to figure out the best route

03:10:53.000 --> 03:10:57.000
is pacing ourselves or just spamming the phone

03:10:57.000 --> 03:11:01.000
thanks a photo comp

03:11:01.000 --> 03:11:05.000
photo competition few family members RE

03:11:05.000 --> 03:11:09.000
I'm not sure 30 in REV 30 K I'm assuming

03:11:11.000 --> 03:11:15.000
maybe they're hosting a competition maybe you have to pay to enter the competition spamming the phone

03:11:15.000 --> 03:11:17.000
that I don't know

03:11:19.000 --> 03:11:23.000
okay nobody else understands what they're talking about either RE

03:11:23.000 --> 03:11:27.000
photo comp started RE photo comp

03:11:31.000 --> 03:11:35.000
next okay yeah sorry I was struggling to genuinely

03:11:35.000 --> 03:11:39.000
tried hey DLL question for Linus how's the new winter jacket coming

03:11:39.000 --> 03:11:41.000
along real estate photo company

03:11:43.000 --> 03:11:47.000
oh my god I real estate no no no no no

03:11:47.000 --> 03:11:51.000
Imperator in full plane chat said real estate that makes so much more sense real estate photo

03:11:51.000 --> 03:11:55.000
company they hit 30 K in revenue they something something

03:11:55.000 --> 03:11:59.000
or just spamming photos on a phone what was the other thing they were saying hitting the phone I think they

03:11:59.000 --> 03:12:03.000
were looking how to scale fast right they wanted to scale up and

03:12:03.000 --> 03:12:07.000
they weren't sure how to do that without just like hitting the phone which is probably

03:12:07.000 --> 03:12:11.000
more like cold calling pacing ourselves or just spamming

03:12:11.000 --> 03:12:15.000
the phone spamming the phone cold calling he's probably right

03:12:15.000 --> 03:12:19.000
why this is a I mean it's gonna be all networking in that industry

03:12:19.000 --> 03:12:23.000
like it's all old boys club so to speak

03:12:23.000 --> 03:12:27.000
so you definitely want to make connections and everything else is

03:12:27.000 --> 03:12:31.000
kind of secondary honestly as someone who's looked through real estate listings

03:12:33.000 --> 03:12:37.000
man almost their photos terrible learn how to do HDR

03:12:37.000 --> 03:12:41.000
better than like 90% of everybody and you're fine

03:12:41.000 --> 03:12:45.000
there's some actually really good is not a high bar there is a lot of really good

03:12:45.000 --> 03:12:49.000
YouTube tutorials but if you've already got 30 K in revenue you're fine

03:12:49.000 --> 03:12:53.000
you know what you're doing yeah keep it up Congrats on

03:12:53.000 --> 03:12:57.000
on growing it at a staging company keep it up

03:12:57.000 --> 03:13:01.000
yeah staging is makes such a big difference or do okay so yeah probably

03:13:01.000 --> 03:13:05.000
but a bunch of people are doing people are gonna like this but

03:13:05.000 --> 03:13:09.000
like AI staging stuff lately it is actually very

03:13:09.000 --> 03:13:13.000
surprisingly good because you can see the photo of the room empty and the photo

03:13:13.000 --> 03:13:17.000
of the room with stuff in it and it's cool being able to see both idea

03:13:17.000 --> 03:13:21.000
um new winter jacket

03:13:21.000 --> 03:13:25.000
oh okay you'll have to do another one while I look

03:13:25.000 --> 03:13:29.000
that up um

03:13:29.000 --> 03:13:33.000
hi dll are you aware of

03:13:33.000 --> 03:13:37.000
the development of 3d printed medication and the potential for multiple prescriptions to be

03:13:37.000 --> 03:13:41.000
combined into one pill and you have thoughts about it

03:13:41.000 --> 03:13:45.000
how does that make any sense why would you 3d print them

03:13:45.000 --> 03:13:49.000
well maybe because you want like different release schedules or whatever

03:13:49.000 --> 03:13:53.000
because like you know they can have different coatings and they can have different like capsules

03:13:53.000 --> 03:13:57.000
and stuff that release at different times but why would you want to 3d print that

03:13:57.000 --> 03:14:01.000
I don't know maybe it's more maybe it's like helps with the

03:14:01.000 --> 03:14:05.000
complexity how do you ensure they're mixed properly

03:14:05.000 --> 03:14:09.000
I don't know I don't know I'm not a doctor I'm just saying I like 3d printing

03:14:09.000 --> 03:14:13.000
don't wait really

03:14:13.000 --> 03:14:17.000
someone needs to clip that we need to clip that dad we need that clip

03:14:17.000 --> 03:14:21.000
he knows what I mean yeah

03:14:21.000 --> 03:14:25.000
I was in a couple time stamps uh

03:14:25.000 --> 03:14:29.000
thermochromic jacket is expected to hit in

03:14:29.000 --> 03:14:33.000
November so soon

03:14:33.000 --> 03:14:37.000
but I don't want to nail down an exact week because things happen sometimes

03:14:37.000 --> 03:14:41.000
but that's when it's expected hi LLD looking for

03:14:41.000 --> 03:14:45.000
advice moving to rural Australia for work in the next

03:14:45.000 --> 03:14:49.000
25 52 weeks steam deck versus xbox

03:14:49.000 --> 03:14:53.000
ally versus laptop reviews seem to indicate ally x is under cooked

03:14:53.000 --> 03:14:57.000
my friends use xbox online

03:14:57.000 --> 03:15:01.000
I mean but these are all PCs the steam deck

03:15:01.000 --> 03:15:05.000
with xbox online question mark

03:15:05.000 --> 03:15:09.000
um I mean the laptop

03:15:09.000 --> 03:15:13.000
if you can only have one the laptop has the most utility if you can get

03:15:13.000 --> 03:15:17.000
one that supports a I don't think this one supports it but like like a

03:15:17.000 --> 03:15:21.000
tent mode you know where it folds the other way and you can just

03:15:21.000 --> 03:15:25.000
put it like this but with the screen on the outside very nice on a thing

03:15:25.000 --> 03:15:29.000
with a controller that's pretty sick like if you can only have one I'd want the one that has

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a keyboard I'm also personally leaning laptop but I

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didn't answer right away because I don't have either the other ones so I'm a little bit

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biased here yeah

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and I don't know how much like a Strix Halo laptop costs this

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this HP one my understanding is pretty

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pretty expensive

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it is true like the the steam deck is going to be

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by far the cheapest option like one of the issues this question is you're asking

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an insane variety in price

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yeah I mean the steam deck is the best bank for the buck that's the easiest one to recommend but

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as for the ally xbox ally x whatever stupid

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thing is called also do you need to do more stuff on it it's it's

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it's pretty good like I don't know what to tell you it's um

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I think people are just frustrated because Microsoft sold it as something that it

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wasn't as a small computer that's pretty

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d's it's great yeah that's not the last question

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maybe more of a general question my work has

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a stupid new no graphic tease policy but the text isn't

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banned we make a shirt that says shirt in giant text on it

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how does that fit in with like your branding or your like

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is that something that you would ever do or do you want to make like cool stuff

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because like shirt that says in giant text is like

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kind of my aesthetic in a way I love that type of stuff

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okay pondering I mean do enough of you want this like is

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that a thing I figured yeah can you make ASCII images that's

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just text see that that sort of tickles my malicious compliance

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but that's fantastic a lot more than the other one does it kind of made me think

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of the the no-name brand like merch products that they do

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we'll tell you what we'll do the ASCII one ASCII sounds like a cool idea

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I like an ASCII art shirt I like that idea yeah thanks Amaria that sounds like a great point

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okay could do I send this too okay I'll

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the next time we do a Linux challenge we should both be required to

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make a cool little you know

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can I use the term to rice it out in a really cool way

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that is the official term that is what people call it I'm just saying sure

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we'll go with that and there is cool stuff that they do with ASCII art in that

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process and we should we should do that that should be part of it

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whatever leave me alone I don't know what else to call it

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modify yeah but it doesn't

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it doesn't encapsulate the that's true whatever

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whatever you've been waiting for a turn yeah I have been waiting

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so long for this to come back they have bought the northern lights

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t-shirt tall yeah thank you for doing tall graphics

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is this our first tall graphic and it's like five of them or something

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that's actually very exciting I need to order them immediately

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yeah I've been waiting so long for this to come back

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what is the oldest used hardware you'd recommend picking up right now

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oh man it depends on what you're trying to do I mean

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open ended my uncle

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needed a laptop with a CD ROM drive in it

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and so we just grabbed some

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like vista machine and

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it will never be connected to a network so it doesn't matter because it's for

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loading data from some CD

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resource into some computer and it has to like live there because it has to be

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used periodically and connected to that thing

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and it's just like well that's the oldest hardware that I'd recommend for that

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it just depends on what you're trying to do running a Windows XP machine today

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if it was completely offline it's totally fine tons of them still work that way

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in terms of what I would actually connect to the internet I would want something that is modern enough

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to run an operating system that's still getting updates if it's Windows that means not that old

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but if it's Linux go ham nice

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dynastook and lan do sponsors pay extra for Riley to do

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his amazing singing ad spots or does he do them just because he can

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yes both of those things

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he's kind of been a bit of a spiritual successor for what

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Dennis was doing with what we call CSPs or creative

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sponsor placements or something like that I forget what it's short for but

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it was CSR creative sponsor reads but then

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I was like that sounds too close to customer service representative and I'm never going to know what you're talking about

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so we changed it to CSP and it is something

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that sponsors can pay extra for and we do show them hey there's increased

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retention there's increased click through like there's all these

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benefits you should probably do this I have had two merge messages this evening

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asking for a compilation I could see that being

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something we might do on the clips channel at some point but yeah I know he's been

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killing it cannot say

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enough how impressed I have been with Riley's

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work on that I am blown away not just Riley it's a team effort

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it's not just Riley they have to be they have to be shot and edited and stuff

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but like massive shout out to the team

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so cool spin nuts last one I got for you today

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good evening Linus, Luke and Dan what wireless technology do you think might

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compete or replace Bluetooth do you think RF headphones would ever make a comeback

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whatever happened to li-fi oh

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I don't know man I mean there's only so much spectrum like it's one of those things where it's like

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man what new continents do you think we could discover

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you know over the last thousand years we've just western civilization

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has discovered a continent at approximately a rate of one every 200 years

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you know well like yeah okay

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but here's a really controversial take

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modern BTLE

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pretty good there's more that could be done for user friendliness

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but like why can't I have multi-channel with good audio

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and a mic at the same time in current year

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I am upset I agree with that

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but it's still bluetooth you could just make bluetooth less garbage

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and they are dual stream like bluetooth is continuing to get betterer

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and I mean as far as I can tell the major constraint

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is just that we all want it to be cheap if you could do 2.4GHz

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communication expensively well it would be

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better look at all the 2.4GHz dongles that exist that are

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better than bluetooth but we want it to be low power we want it to be cheap

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and we want it to have good range and we want it to have

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a wide data path and we want it to have all these things

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and it's like well look in the real world you don't get everything

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so wait I think it will continue

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to get better as for li-fi that's a good question I would love to know what happened to li-fi

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and I was lying there's one more Linus you mentioned you still occasionally play halo infinite

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do you prefer 4v4 modes or big team battle halo isn't halo to me

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what about vehicles and at least 8 vs 8 I generally play 4v4

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I find big team battle a little too chaotic for my boomer brain

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that's all I got my apologies

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thanks for tuning into the WAN Show we'll see you again next week same bad time same bad channel

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I would have just stayed there I would have waited

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I know I gotta go though he gave up early oh yeah bye

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who knows

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you