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Right. Stuff. Got it.

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Cool. Good chat. Um, Lucas allowed hats.

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Oh, unique username. Got it. You look like Duke.

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That's his costume. His costume is Duke.

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Just one person identified it correctly. So that works for me.

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And my costume is Sammy.

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Here, check it out. I'm dressed up as Sammy.

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Wait, where'd Sammy go?

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I'm Linus. I hate iPhones.

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And I use the AirPods, even though I hate iPhone.

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I use AirPods and I don't like iPhones.

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Well, it's not that I don't like iPhones.

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Sorry. I'm Linus and I hate iPhones.

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You went deeper. Yeah. Deeper is definitely not the way.

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I'm Linus and I hate iPhones. Okay. Now you sound like picking up.

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And this segment, who are sponsored?

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Well, anyhow, we should probably do the Wansho.

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Okay. Do you know, you know, I'm not sure the Wansho, right?

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It's welcome. To the Wansho. Wansho.

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We got some great topics here. Luke, what topic are you most interested in?

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No, no, no, no, no, no. You pull a dick move and you pick the first two.

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Oh, okay. Every time. And then you hunt for the one that you think I probably want to say.

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I haven't looked at any topics.

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Oh, my God. Okay. I'm like stuck halfway through, but then we're just going to go with it, you know.

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They're already done. Did you do the thing? Did you talk to AJ?

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I want that to be a priority like soon.

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Share with the headset.

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Wait, he didn't respond?

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I will look into this. I will look into this.

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Am I short on Linus? I feel like I'm short on Linus.

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Wait, I feel like I look so much shorter.

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My torso is a normal height. It's my legs that are short.

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So maybe it's the other way for you. It could be.

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I don't think, I don't think we're the same height. I think I'm slightly taller.

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I don't know. What? What?

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It feels similar.

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No, you say no, you look taller.

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You should say that. You should say no. You look taller.

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No. Listen, I'm an average height.

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I'm the average age and male height.

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Okay. Wait, I got like topics.

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Sorry. I have to read this.

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Now you're sounding just like Linus.

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Okay. Okay. I got it.

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I got it. Maybe.

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Don't be like, welcome to the WAN Show. We got some great news topics for you today.

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House robots are also here.

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Whoa. Robots, Luke. How do you feel about that?

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You're really making me feel really good at my job right now.

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Wait, how would you do it? How would you do it?

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A little bit more energy, man. A little bit more flow. Come on.

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Welcome to the WAN Show, everybody.

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We have some great news for you today.

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House robots are coming to our homes, Luke.

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Now I feel like I could be replaced too easily.

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I'm putting my gain limiter through the paces there.

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Was that too loud? Sorry. It was unironically a lot better.

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Okay. Topics, though, not news. Topics lined up for you today.

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We got some great topics lined up for you today. There you go.

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I'm going to flub it. You know what? We're going to go with it because this is the multiverse.

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Everything's a little different. Incompetent Linus. Yeah.

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I'm incompetent Linus.

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Worst timeline. I'm the worst timeline Linus.

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It's, yeah. TikTok Star.

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TikTok Star Linus multiverse.

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I'm Linus if shorts came first before long form.

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Yeah. There you go. YouTube came.

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YouTube was 2012. TikTok 2004. Shout out Lisa.

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She did my beard. She did power on my hair. Can you look at how my hair is lighter, actually?

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A little bit. Yeah. We filmed a full plane about it.

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I didn't originally, like in the camera, it doesn't look like that way at all.

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But in person, I see it. Yeah. I only see it through cameras.

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I haven't looked in the mirror yet. Oh, yeah. I'm too scared.

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Well, I'll see. Why?

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Why? I don't know. Maybe it'll be like.

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You think you want a beard? Yeah, maybe. I do want a beard.

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I do want a beard. It looks pretty good. I do want a beard.

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I'm not genetically built like that. I want to get patches here and here. It looks weird.

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So I have to shave it like every day. You know, like Naruto? It's like that.

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I don't. Okay. My bad.

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Sorry for speaking. Wow. I had to.

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That's Luke. What? Welcome to the Rancho.

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We've got some great topics signed up for you today.

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Sorry. We got some great topics. Do it from the top.

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Do it from the top. Pick two topics. Do it from the top.

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All right. All right. This is a rehearsal rehearsal rehearsal rehearsal.

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Are you actually doing the intro? Yeah. Oh my gosh.

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I'm slightly nervous. Okay. Okay.

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Okay. Welcome to the Rancho. We got a.

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Oh, what? What? 80% do that.

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80% I need. I need.

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I need. I need notes. I need notes.

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Is there a huge pause after welcome? I don't think so. You just rolls.

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You guys this week. You were like, welcome to the Rancho.

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Like it's like we're enjoying WWE or something.

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Okay. Welcome to the Rancho, everybody.

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We got some great topics lined up here for you today.

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Luke, house robots are also a freak.

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House robots are almost here. Oh, are they invading our houses and YouTube is making some changes.

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Those always go well. Luke, what are some topics you're interested in?

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The AMD is no longer updating some stuff and AMD is doing some other stuff.

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That's crazy. Intro button. Where's the intro button?

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Top. Right. I'll do it.

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Okay. And then we'll flip it and we don't acknowledge it.

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Yeah. Oh, do you mind if I completely not acknowledge it?

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That's kind of funny if you don't acknowledge it. I think so. Yeah, I don't acknowledge it.

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Is it just for the Floatplane audience, you know, the floaties? I don't know. Oh.

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Right now. Yeah. And Twitch.

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Oh. And Facebook. What?

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Never do that. No, you've officially, no, you're not playing the role correct.

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Not really. You don't acknowledge Twitch other than to insult them.

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I'm the multiverse. You do not shout out to. No Linus in any of the versions.

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This line is only like TikTok and Instagram. We used to be so friendly to Twitch.

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And now it's just the breakup was not good.

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It was a bad break. Except for we're still in relationship because we still stream there, I guess.

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I want to get some subway. We like share a dog or something.

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Sharing a dog. You should transfer it once a week. Yeah.

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Yeah. A custody of the dog. Yeah.

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Okay, so hold on. Sorry. Okay.

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I'm so nervous. I don't know why I'm so nervous. This is like the lowest stakes, but I don't make so nervous.

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You're fine. You're fine. It's like, welcome to the Wancho.

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Do you want to rip it out? Do you want to do more? No, no, no.

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You know what? I feel like if a flub is kind of funnier. Sure.

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Yeah. Because then YouTube is like, what's going on? And then, you know, the floaties would be like, aha, I know.

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I'm in the know. Yeah. I haven't read a chat.

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I'm like so, dude, this mic is so, I think I am short of lines.

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What the frick? It's like, I'm here, but he like, I'm like, it's like, you know, see, it's like hitting.

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It's probably just the, the leg torso thing that he's talking about.

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Like I, I, a pretty considerable amount of people think I'm taller than I am because

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when I sit next to people, I tend to look quite like my seats a lot lower right now.

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When I sit next to people, I tend to look really tall because my torso is really tall.

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My legs are very short. Yeah.

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Like my girlfriend can wear the same pants as me.

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That's crazy. Because our legs are exactly the same length and I'm like over a foot taller than her.

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It's all torso. I think I've met your girlfriend once.

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Yeah. I think I have. Yeah.

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She's like, I don't know. She's like not tall. Nope.

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Yeah. She's pretty average. Sorry.

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I got saved. You ready to do this thing? Yeah, dude.

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Is that what Linus says? Yeah. I watched the show.

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I watched the show. You ready to do this is like a pretty normal.

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House robot and the YouTube change. No, that's not.

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No. Okay. Does he actually real fake real fake Linus real cookie Linus?

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That's another thing you would, you would secretly have snacks somewhere.

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I don't always have snacks. Like 70%.

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I was thinking of eating a snack while you actually, it comes and goes.

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It comes and goes. I was going to choose something while you do topics, but are white choosing topics,

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but I was like, I think it's going to be bad for audio. So yeah, I didn't suggest it.

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I'm tired of being kind of. Seriously, every goddamn time I use it, I'm kind of.

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We're hoping to push a full plane update soon. That should more or less solve that for full plane.

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Was it already pushed? It might already be pushed.

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Sorry. So do you actually, not all you're an admin.

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If you want, we can make you a non admin account, but that won't actually work.

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So we give you access to things that are admin accounts. So yeah, basically just get, get fricking wrecked.

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My Microsoft account. I'm going to have to go sign into my key for account on my phone to get my Microsoft.

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Stupid. It's actually driving me insane.

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Yep. I have a question. Do you actually want, do you actually care?

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Do you actually want those to be the topics that you mentioned?

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Okay. Whichever ones you think. Oh, okay.

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That is, that is. The ones Luke wants are too wordy and I'm going to flub it.

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So I'm just, I'm choosing the ones. I think I have, I have good, uh, I can shorten it better.

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See, in this multiverse, I'm, uh, this Linus is very, um, considerate of Luke's desires

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for topics. Sounds fake. You can, you can do the Nintendo one because it talks about Pokemon.

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You like Pokemon, right? Oh yeah. Just make sure someone does the headline.

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Yeah. Okay. Well, you know, I, uh, on the over the weekend, I was with, uh, it was me, Artie, Ariana,

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Belle, and Ash from the cable management, uh, video that we did.

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Okay. We opened a bunch of packs. I think it was like 300 packs between all five of us.

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That's, uh, it sounds laborious. I lost a lot of money that day.

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You know, Belle? Oh my God. Okay.

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I got a rant. Okay. I got a lot of cards.

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Every, and he's opened it three times. And three times he hit, he's hit the most like the best cards.

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I get, I'm like, that should be me.

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I'm happy for him, but I'm like, that should be me.

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Gambling. It's just gambling. It's legal gambling.

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I'm running into this kind of stuff so often.

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I'm on here. I'm going to read chat while you guys are talking.

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So I log in. Why are you doing this the wrong way?

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Why are you doing it the wrong way? So there's my thing.

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I am now logged in. Right?

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Cool. Am I logged in?

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Not to the browser extension.

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Well, why didn't it work?

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Literally reloads this page. Why would it do that? I don't know.

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I've never experienced this, but log into the extension.

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Why would it give me a prompt that doesn't work? Why is this not working?

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I'm actually going to lose it over all my multi-factor crap

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not working. No one else has ever reported this ever.

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I think you need to get rid of your extension and get another one,

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because I've never seen that just not work. Seriously, last night I was trying to do WAN topics,

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and I couldn't log into, I forget, something.

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I was just in a stupid loop like this. I can't deal with this.

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I need everything to just go back to two-factor or something,

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because I cannot deal with this.

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So how's everyone's day? My day was good.

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It's a makeup. They got a lot of work done.

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We got a custom PC we did a short for.

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That was fun. It's pretty cool.

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It doesn't matter. I can just copy-paste it from the...

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But now you need to get your extension back again.

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Oh, you deleted my... Yeah, of course, it wasn't working.

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It takes like three seconds to get it back. I could have done it if you didn't take the laptop.

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You know when your friends are fighting? Also, you need to report this stuff,

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instead of just crashing out about it forever. So when you have two friends fighting,

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just like in the corners, dang, they're awkwardly. This is what it feels like right now.

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That's what it felt like.

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Why are TabKeeper, TimeKeeper, and ColorKeeper

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the only hours complete, instead of just Keeper?

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I'm searching for literally Keeper. You think it's funnier that Fathi's off camera

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and yelling like this? Oh, yeah, sure.

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There's another Keeper around your bookkeeping business.

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Keeper Bookkeeping. It makes sense. Keeper.

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Like BookKeeper. Keeper, I barely know her.

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Ding it, ding it. Yay!

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Dopamine is flowing. He's never gonna open the Pokemon card back again.

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It's like a check-off dog. Just say check-off dog.

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I knew what he meant. Wait, no, wait, is that wrong?

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I knew what he meant. Is that wrong?

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Check-off dog, sorry. Just keep saying check-off dog.

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Check-off gun, sorry. Check-off is Star Trek.

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Like Anakin Skywalker? Sorry, I just made everyone mad.

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Sorry, sorry. You're not sorry.

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Guys, I know what Star Wars is.

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I'll take another sci-fi one. It's taking me to a project thing.

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Yeah, well, it sucks to suck. I swear to God,

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I have an impromptu topic. For which?

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For my Keeper 2 update. Never had it happen.

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I have an impromptu topic. Actually, that's not true.

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It literally prompts me every single time. I think it's supposed to for admins.

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Is there even a checkbox to do it every 30 days for a Keeper? For admins, yes.

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For admins, yes, there's a checkbox? Why would we have a checkbox

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in order to be evil? Sorry.

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It's a dropdown, not a checkbox. Yeah.

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But I think if you're switching between devices, it will...

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I have an impromptu topic. What's up?

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I switched to an iPhone after being an Android user. How was it?

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Nice. It's very confusing.

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I got used to it. I tried AirDrop, but like whoa.

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Android phones have been feeling not good

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for a while. Especially as a pixel boy.

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I really don't want to switch to Samsung. I do not like the Samsung experience.

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So I've been thinking like do I finally need to jump over?

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And then every time I use an iPhone, I'm like ugh, no.

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But I don't... It's hard to tell do I actually dislike

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the experience or is it just strange?

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Because I've used Android for so long.

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I think the hurdle was the back button. Because when you YouTube me,

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it goes like the 16 by 9. And then we try to leave it.

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You click the back button for iPhone. I don't have...

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I don't do buttons. I do gestures. What?

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Yeah, I'm a gesture guy. And it goes away?

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No. Like back, no.

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I just swipe in from the side and it goes back. What? You're doing the pretending

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that you don't know what you're talking about. I know.

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Rough. I know.

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Never go full ignorant. I know for Instagram, there's like a tongue

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gesture. I don't know. Someone figured out. There's like a whole gesture.

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See I'm on that video. Okay.

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What? That's it. Way easier. Do you have three button

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gesture? Hold on. I got to open my office

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application. Hold on.

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What? What?

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Swipe down from the top? Yeah, it's like this.

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Swipe down from the... You can only swipe back from the right on Android.

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On iOS, you have to do it from the left. Back?

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No, it just goes away. It swipes back from the left on iOS?

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Natural scrolling. Not very intuitive.

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You want it to be on the left, unless you're left-handed.

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Because that's the way Lord Jobs decreed it should be thusly done.

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And you can go back on Android from either side.

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I know, but you can't on iOS. See this is why I don't

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really want to switch to the iPhone. Can you swap the three

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button navigation backwards on iPhone?

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Like long after Jobs died. Exactly.

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I don't really... It smells like cookie right here.

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Dinner. No, I'm just teasing.

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Ghosts. I like cookies.

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Luke, ready to do this thing? Oh, wait.

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Yeah, I'm fine. It's welcome to the WAN Show.

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We got loads. We got fun and games.

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We got a lot of topics here for you today. Yeah, sure.

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We got a lot of topics. Energy.

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Energy and don't slow down. So it's not...

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Welcome... Welcome to the WAN Show, everybody.

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We got some exciting topics here for you today. And just don't stop.

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Find a word to put there. Remember that Linus would make sure

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that he fills as much airtime as possible. So just don't stop talking.

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Until the intro goes. Linus, keep looking. I'm getting nervous.

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You can also interrupt me? No, you have to.

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How do I interrupt you? Just start talking over me.

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Oh, okay. Wait, wait.

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Do we want to say when we're swapping? He can't do it. He waits until you're done.

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He's so nice. I'm the nice Linus.

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I'm the considered Linus, you know? Okay, ready?

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Are you ready to do this thing, Luke? We gotta hit it at some point.

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Oh, my God. Are you going to signal him?

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Yeah.

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Welcome to the WAN Show, everybody. Oh, you looked at me.

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Welcome to the WAN Show, everybody. We got lots of topics here for you today.

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Luke, house robots are almost here. That's kind of crazy, no?

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Yeah. And you two is bringing updates.

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Surely that will go great, right? Probably not.

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Also, we've got Mark Andreessen funding

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AI-powered AstroTurfing because we needed more bad things

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in the world, I guess. And Nintendo may have lost a key

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patent in Japan. That's crazy.

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You know what else is crazy? This is the intro from Noki.

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Hmm. Hmm.

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Hmm. Hmm.

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the WAN doc with you guys and enjoy all these wonderful topics. Yeah. Why don't we kick things right

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off with the big YouTube news this week?

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How do they manage to do this? It's almost like they try

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to make the most unpopular possible decisions. I mean, we had that one

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thing recently where I was like, oh, that seems pretty cool where they had the AI

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powered likeness recognition so you could opt out of having

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AI slop using your likeness all over the platform. That was cool. That seems pretty

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cool. That seemed like objectively good. And then they followed up with

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a triple whammy worth of updates and policy changes with

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an AI super resolution upscaler

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that's planned to be applied to all videos under 1080p

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Oh, was it all videos or all live streams? Okay, I seem to remember

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seeing an email about live streams, but this says videos, so that's interesting

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as well as a crackdown on both violent video games

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and gambling content. This expanded

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crackdown, which goes into effect November 17th, is paired

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with more stringent age verification will prohibit content

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that directs viewers to online gambling sites which now includes digital goods

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gambling like video game skins, cosmetics and NFTs, and YouTube

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will also be age restricting casino style games without

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real world monetary value.

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Big G is also adding broader criteria for violent

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video game content that will be age restricted such as scenes of torture

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or mass violence against non-combatants. So this

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is a whole bunch to unpack. Let's start with the stuff that I

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wholeheartedly agree with. YouTube does not need

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to direct people to online gambling sites. If anything, I think the professional

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sports space could stand to learn a little bit from YouTube here.

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Has YouTube not been taking advertising from gambling sites? See, they have, which is why

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I'm finding the whole thing kind of confusing, so rules for thee and not for me.

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Yeah. But can I just take this as a small

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I don't think so. It's not really a win, is it? It really feels like maybe they're just trying

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to take all the pie from gambling site funding.

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Right. Right. But from which country? All of them.

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Is it American Pie? Is it?

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Also, I'm just recognizing that you don't have a Halloween costume

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which is a Halloween costume because other people dressed up as you. So if you

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dressed up in a Halloween costume, we'd actually kind of screw the whole thing up, which is like the most amazing

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loophole ever. And I'm just, I think

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very good. I went as a tech YouTuber.

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There you go. Okay. Yeah.

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And then so we've also got the bit where you're not allowed to direct viewers.

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So yeah, you can't direct viewers to online gambling sites, which now includes

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video game skins, cosmetics and NFTs. I mean,

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oh man, how do we, okay, because I do,

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I actually do support that because it was clear that nobody else

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was going to do anything about it. And so it feels like

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for YouTube to step in and go, yeah, no, you actually can't do that.

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I like that. I also honestly really like the idea

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of age-restricting casino-style games, even if they don't have real-world

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monetary value. I do think that there's a level of extreme

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that's not necessary. Like, I don't know if you remember this, but a little while back there was some

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controversy around, like, even Pokemon Blue getting banned

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somewhere because there was the casino. Has a casino in it.

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Seems a little much. Yeah, that seems a little bit much. It's not a core mechanic.

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If I remember correctly, I would just skip it every single time.

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Yeah, because you lose all your money. Yeah. But like

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in general, I think I've spoken extensively enough in the past

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about my frustration with gambling mechanics being introduced

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to children in everywhere from video games

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to real-world settings. Like, the collectibles.

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Yeah, happy meals, even arcades, right? Like, you think you're playing

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a game of skill, what you're actually playing is a game of chance, and you are

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putting in a whole bunch of money, then at the end you get a little dopamine rush, you know,

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barrel of monkeys or whatever toy and you go, wow, I won!

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But what you actually did was lose. Like, I've had to have that conversation with my kids

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where they go, oh yeah, the best deal in the Castle Fun Park

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prize bin is this or this. I'm like, actually the best deal

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is if mommy and daddy had just spent the money that we spent on these gambling games

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and just bought you a barrel of monkeys.

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But of course, you know, that wouldn't have been as fun.

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We just need to recognize it for what it is. Paying an amount of money

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to have the amount of fun that was playing these games. The prize is not a prize,

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it's a sucker prize. Which sometimes is a sucker

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if you like lollies. Which could be alright. Candy!

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Ooh. Ooh.

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Ugh. Anyway,

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does anybody know if

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YouTube does allow gambling ads on the site?

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I don't, I have YouTube premiums so I wouldn't really see stuff like that.

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Yeah, me too. Do you get ads for like, I don't know

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what's a gambling thing? Poker stars, is that still a thing? I have no idea.

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I have no idea. What's one of the sports ones? Sports betting, I don't know.

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What's, oh okay. Yeah, okay, in Sprel says

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it's all gambling ads. Yeah. They've seen stake ads, seen draft kings,

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oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, draft kings, okay, cool.

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So yeah, man, this does feel a little bit rules for the and not

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for me, but then again it is. Oh yeah, big time. It is...

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Okay. If I can try to

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I don't know, devil's advocate is at the right term for this. Yeah. If I can try to

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vouch for them a little bit, which I don't actually think this is accurate, but if I can,

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maybe they think at least that they can control the narrative

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around their ads more, maybe they can target it to the right

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people, the right people being adults. Maybe they think

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that they can do that stuff a little bit better than creators just

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being unable to because they're just blasting their video out there and then

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you know what, I'm going to take this as a small win still then

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because they could

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they could get even more money because they could sell

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gambling content target, hold up just a second, they could sell

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gambling targeted gambling ads against gambling content

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and there would be more money in it for them if they allowed that content

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to go to the broadest possible audience versus if they restricted it in any way.

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Extremely small W. I'm talking like

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I'm talking like three three point

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on an enlarged sheet of paper like on an industrial printer

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but there is a tiny W in there

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small W. I don't know because I think the gambling content

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still happens because a lot of original back in the day style

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and I'm sure this still happens creator monetization

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was gambling sites giving people a ton of

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money to gamble on their site

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so it was like in a lot of cases undisclosed sponsorship

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effectively and then actual just sponsorship. What they're

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cracking down on is linking not making that content I believe

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digital goods blah blah blah which will prohibit content that directs viewers to it

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directs viewers but they will also age restrict casino style

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games without real-world monetary value so it could still have

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real-world monetary value if it was a real casino

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and they're only actually restricting you from linking to it

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so my interpretation

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you can still make that content you just can't link to the site

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that you're playing on

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does it say link or direct it says directs

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strength and approach I'm going to bring up the original source

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prohibits content that directs viewers to online gambling sites

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or applications that are not certified by Google so yeah it comes down to them

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certified by Google is very different wording than what we had in the in the doc

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including digital goods yep yep yep yep

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00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:30,000
social casino content okay

457
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:34,000
yeah yeah it's I gotta be honest with you

458
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:38,000
it's pretty it's pretty hand-wavy

459
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:42,000
it seems like there's a lot of room for interpretation

460
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:46,000
here which it's gonna have to be is in their defense

461
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:50,000
yeah it's pretty much what you have to do when you create site guidelines I mean

462
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:54,000
this is not a law right Google is not the law

463
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:58,000
and if you make it super specific people will just

464
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:02,000
work around it it happened to twitch and they just became a laughing stock

465
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,000
you like have to do it vaguely unfortunately

466
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:10,000
so we'll see what that actually turns into the violence NVIDIA game one is

467
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:14,000
interesting so that one I wanted to unpack a little bit separately

468
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:18,000
sure let's move on to it you know what you're right yep let's talk about I saw some speculation online

469
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:22,000
that this was preemptive for the GTA 6 launch

470
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:26,000
oh which actually yeah I had basically the same reaction

471
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:30,000
of like interesting because you know there's gonna be an insane flood

472
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:34,000
of content whether I mean it's probably gonna be good but rather the game is good

473
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:38,000
or not an incredible amount of people will play it and there will be an incredible amount of content

474
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:42,000
made about it yeah and a lot of it will probably include scenes of

475
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:46,000
doing things to NPCs that could constitute

476
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:50,000
well pretty much for mass violence against non-combatants yeah

477
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:54,000
honestly everything there will also be gambling

478
00:31:56,000 --> 00:32:00,000
there will also be the skins there also be like literally everything in this update

479
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:04,000
will have something to do with GTA

480
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:08,000
oh that actually that actually makes a ton of sense

481
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:12,000
who knows but I saw that idea and it seemed super legit to me

482
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:16,000
it also could just be something that's been on the docket basically

483
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:20,000
forever and waiting for a quiet moment to just

484
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:24,000
kind of make these changes and and roll them out

485
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:28,000
I was not expecting this to ever happen and I gotta

486
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:32,000
tell you some of our content would fall under these

487
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:36,000
guidelines as potentially being age-gated which

488
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:40,000
is sort of a downer because this is the next section

489
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:44,000
what this means for you and your content content

490
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:48,000
uploaded before November 17th 2025 that violates these guidelines maybe

491
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:52,000
removed or age restricted but will not result in a strike

492
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:56,000
remember age restricted videos can stay on your channel

493
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,000
for 18 plus audiences

494
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:04,000
so I tend to what content do you think would get

495
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:08,000
whenever we fire up cyberpunk just as like a benchmark I tend

496
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,000
to play karma get in

497
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:16,000
because then I don't have to aim and we can just kind of

498
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:20,000
you know rip around in the city and and it attracts the police

499
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:24,000
which gives me an opportunity to get into a firefight like it just is it's kind of

500
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:28,000
it's not necessarily a scene of torture but it's definitely mass violence against non-combatants

501
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:32,000
yeah it really is isn't it see I always thought of them as just sort of digital

502
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:36,000
pixels I didn't really you know think it mattered

503
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:40,000
non-combatant yeah yeah um so this could

504
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:44,000
affect a not totally insignificant number of our older videos

505
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:48,000
you should you should find a like

506
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:52,000
generic clip of like some like

507
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:56,000
I don't know what's that there was some like terrible flash game back in the day

508
00:33:56,000 --> 00:34:00,000
where you took care of like horses you just like brushed horses

509
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:04,000
you should get like footage of that it's like every every

510
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:08,000
time you go to carve again it's free it just like covers the screen with

511
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,000
YouTube YouTube appropriate content

512
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:18,000
yeah I don't know so you can make edits

513
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:22,000
YouTube does have their built-in

514
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:26,000
video editor tool you can use to trim or blur the footage

515
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:30,000
but you'd have to make any changes before November 17th

516
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:34,000
so we would have to find whatever videos have this we'd have to go in and I think realistically

517
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:38,000
I'm just gonna not bother and then anything that they flag on us

518
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:42,000
we're just going to appeal and then fix in the meantime and then we'll

519
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:46,000
hopefully sort it out that way there are some

520
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:50,000
there are some sort of guidelines that they use to determine

521
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:54,000
whether it's violative of their policy so the duration matters

522
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:58,000
if the graphic scene is sustained rather than fleeting

523
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:02,000
so for compilation videos they will now consider the cumulative

524
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:06,000
duration of all the graphic clips combined okay and then there's

525
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:10,000
prominence so if the violent imagery is zoomed in

526
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:14,000
or is the main focus of the scene and this one bones me a little

527
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:18,000
if they're if it's against realistic human characters

528
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:22,000
yeah it's a small portion of the video though

529
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:26,000
yeah so maybe you've got some credit there yep some social credit

530
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:30,000
you know I was just in China so I had

531
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:34,000
social credit on the mind here I found a YouTube YouTube acceptable

532
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:38,000
game you just run around you collect carrots

533
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:42,000
jump we did it

534
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:46,000
yeah oh wait

535
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:50,000
more carrots jump I'm gonna

536
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:54,000
oh no I made it I actually don't think this is acceptable

537
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:58,000
I learned recently visiting the bunny cafe in Vancouver with my daughter

538
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:02,000
that carrots are actually too sweet for bunnies are they too sweet for horses

539
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:06,000
not healthy so

540
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:10,000
no what are they supposed to eat no good root vegetables

541
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:14,000
ok probably other things

542
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:18,000
but they said carrots are too sweet not good for them there are bunny cafes

543
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:22,000
yes there are bunny cafes this one's not one of the depressing ones

544
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:26,000
where like the animals are abused and stuff though they work as

545
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:30,000
like a shelter and re-homing service so when you go in

546
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:34,000
all of the bunnies that are in there can be adopted which is pretty cool

547
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:38,000
so I don't remember what it's called I feel like

548
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:42,000
I should look it up now but it's like the bunny cafe in Vancouver

549
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:46,000
carrots seem to be good for horses oh that's nice it's called the bunny cafe

550
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:50,000
oh fantastic 1696 Venables street there you go bunny cafe

551
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:54,000
pretty chill they seem like cool people I've never

552
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:58,000
been to a cat cafe because I live in one stale

553
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:02,000
disc it asked we have four cats living

554
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:06,000
in our house right now does a Vaughan drink coffee

555
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:10,000
say then neither of you drink coffee we have coffee

556
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:14,000
just in case someone visits I mean technically you walk into a Starbucks

557
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:18,000
nobody's actually drinking coffee is it still a cafe I say yes

558
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:22,000
well because they have coffee so they have coffee having coffee

559
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:26,000
yeah sure we have coffee fair enough got him

560
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:30,000
okay we do have some now I get to tell

561
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:34,000
the local government about Linus's illegal cafe business in his house would you like

562
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:38,000
to watch the TechLinked example of the AI sharpening

563
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:42,000
so the super resolution upscaler absolutely all right

564
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:46,000
here we go can we see this yeah well I hope so

565
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:50,000
that's fine I don't think we need audio it's more of a visual experience

566
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:54,000
oh my god is it a visual experience Linus

567
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:58,000
it's a visual experience what am I even watching to add for

568
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:02,000
nope okay so hold on a second

569
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:06,000
first things first oh is this just the same thing that we saw

570
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:10,000
months ago that Riley talked about months ago

571
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:14,000
is this months ago yeah hold on

572
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:18,000
hold on that's not what I thought this was I assumed this was different

573
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:22,000
hopped out AI super resolves all videos under 1080p

574
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:26,000
as well as a crackdown hold on hold on okay

575
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:30,000
I need to double check something to make sure that I don't say something

576
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,000
that I can't say

577
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:40,000
youtube debuts AI enhanced super resolution

578
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:44,000
for low res videos blah blah blah

579
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:48,000
high resolution derivatives blah blah blah will clearly indicate them as

580
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:52,000
super resolution leaving the originals intact

581
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:56,000
okay in the case of offending videos

582
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,000
creators can opt out

583
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:04,000
okay blah blah blah so youtube produces additional HD copies

584
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:08,000
of a low res source of material gives you the option of using them in the quality menu

585
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:12,000
next to the originals so no my understanding is that this is not

586
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:16,000
shorts directed it may be using the same technology

587
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:20,000
which is maybe why Riley linked it like that

588
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:24,000
but it will look like this so we may have to go

589
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:28,000
source ourselves a new example of this

590
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:32,000
and maybe we could try charlie bit my finger and see if it has been

591
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:36,000
if it has been AI super resolution

592
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:40,000
you could try that one too that would be a great

593
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:44,000
example of something that might have a thing

594
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:48,000
charlie bit my finger original does not

595
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:52,000
have any super resolution alright if anyone finds one

596
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:56,000
go ahead and throw it in the chat and then we can have a look at it after

597
00:39:56,000 --> 00:40:00,000
is it rolled out already or are they just saying they're going to roll it out

598
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:04,000
youtube debuts yeah has anyone else

599
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:08,000
actually seen it is there a time frame for this

600
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,000
I mean they definitely rolled it out on shorts

601
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:18,000
there's going to be a lot of content that is not

602
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:22,000
going to benefit too much from this like any kind of pixel art

603
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:26,000
style gaming videos I don't think anyone has seen it

604
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:30,000
I don't think it's really out much yet or if at all

605
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,000
oh hold on a second

606
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:40,000
okay this there's no way that this doesn't have it

607
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:50,000
no no

608
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:54,000
no no

609
00:40:56,000 --> 00:41:00,000
what someone linked the old badger badger

610
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:04,000
badger song and I was like oh no way like that one has it

611
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:08,000
so I'm going to go check and no they just linked it for fun I think

612
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:12,000
nice it doesn't have there's no it's just like auto 240

613
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:16,000
and 144 alright well it was worth a shot

614
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:20,000
whoa hold on when bingo chronified says charlie bit my finger has it

615
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:24,000
for me okay so it's a it's a user rollout

616
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:28,000
thing oh that's a bomber

617
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:32,000
hold on a second they sent two links oh

618
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:36,000
imager link here we go yeah

619
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:40,000
so that's what that's what it looks like for you hey

620
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:44,000
interesting that the even lower ones don't have it trays and

621
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:48,000
terrace on do we have like a

622
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,000
side by side

623
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:56,000
how to this one

624
00:41:56,000 --> 00:42:00,000
of course it is because of course it is thank you for that very

625
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:04,000
useless also this is already a 4k remaster

626
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:08,000
so there would be no need for them to upscale it again

627
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:14,000
man it's been a while it's been a while since anyone has

628
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:18,000
helpfully linked that particular absolute banger

629
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:20,000
of a music video

630
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:26,000
I think we can move on now it is kind of a banger isn't it

631
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:30,000
so solidly good song oh yeah no no doubt yeah absolutely

632
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:34,000
love it and wholesome too you know like

633
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:38,000
yeah yeah yeah

634
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:42,000
like why do songs about you know being attracted to members of the opposite

635
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:46,000
sex have to be all you know

636
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:50,000
vulgar are the same sex ones not vulgar

637
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:56,000
I mean not inherently no they're not

638
00:42:56,000 --> 00:43:00,000
no why because why do you single out opposite sex

639
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:04,000
well because that's what never gonna give you up is about I assume there's a lady

640
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:08,000
in the video sure yeah

641
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:12,000
I just don't know the difference well no I'm just I'm contrasting

642
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:16,000
you know songs about bitches and like

643
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:22,000
but what if it is a what if it is a lesbian

644
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:26,000
singing about bitches that well that's suddenly

645
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:30,000
totally chill I think they're allowed to do that

646
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:34,000
what I I'm not taking a position here

647
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:38,000
I think you are well is it on the bottom or top

648
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:46,000
okay we should we should probably move on

649
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:50,000
oh what

650
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:54,000
next position yeah I mean there's a lot more

651
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:58,000
discussion topics on this one actually like there's

652
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:02,000
there's where's the line between you know

653
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:06,000
do you think strict online age verification is a long-term solution

654
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:10,000
is the cost of privacy worth protecting our children I mean

655
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:14,000
if I thought they could do it effectively and safely and maintain

656
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:18,000
privacy and and not have all this data leak

657
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:22,000
no I don't think it would I don't think I would mind it actually I

658
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:26,000
wouldn't mind age gating things like

659
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:30,000
to me it's not really any different than them checking ID

660
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:34,000
at the at the ticket counter of a movie yeah like I know I know but I don't

661
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:38,000
trust them I know the the senior sides of the internet

662
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:42,000
have been available to us since effectively the beginning of the internet

663
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:46,000
some of the oldest parts of the internet are

664
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:50,000
very not safe for work I don't think they're that old

665
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:58,000
those jokes we've got to stop gonna wear out the button

666
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:00,000
it's not a joke

667
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:08,000
okay where was I going with this

668
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:12,000
right but before it

669
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:18,000
like in my experience you had to be pretty deliberate about seeking it out

670
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:22,000
and now it's a lot easier now now it's just there

671
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:26,000
like you almost can't be on most

672
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:30,000
parts of the internet anymore without it being shoved in your face

673
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:40,000
and it's it's pretty nuts so like

674
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:44,000
yeah I don't know in general at least

675
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:46,000
a like heavily filtered mode

676
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:52,000
because you know the kids are gonna get around it but if it wasn't just like passively there

677
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:56,000
all the time that would probably be better and I mean our next question actually

678
00:45:56,000 --> 00:46:00,000
this has been very top of mind for me I just like I said I just got back from China

679
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:04,000
and they have a very

680
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:08,000
different approach to the tobacco industry than we do here in Canada

681
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:12,000
so I was chatting with Sharad from the business team about it

682
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:16,000
a fair bit because apparently a pretty popular thing to do when you go to China

683
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:20,000
is to load up on your your allowance of flavored

684
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:24,000
cigarettes and bring them back because they've been banned here for

685
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:28,000
I don't think they lasted very long like I have no idea

686
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:32,000
yeah flavored cigarettes I think were a thing here for a little while

687
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:36,000
but they basically went away because it was

688
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:40,000
determined that they were much more appealing to kids I mean adults

689
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:44,000
like flavored things too but it was more of a concern about thinking of the children

690
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:48,000
adult flavored things and

691
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:52,000
they had like all kinds of

692
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:56,000
cigarette innovations like I'm a non-smoker so

693
00:46:56,000 --> 00:47:00,000
to me it's like oh yeah interesting like I'm not gonna smoke them but I'm like oh that's

694
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:04,000
pretty clever if you wanted people to smoke more like there was one

695
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:08,000
that they had that had so I learned how flavored cigarettes work

696
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:12,000
didn't know that before so they have a little gel in them

697
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:16,000
like I assumed that the tobacco itself would be infused with

698
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:20,000
sure some kind of I probably would have assumed the same flavor so that when you burn it it like

699
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:24,000
something like a candle I don't know sure like the the fuel of the fire

700
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:28,000
would have been somehow soaked in it or something I don't know but no

701
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:32,000
apparently that's not how it works you just have like normal tobacco and then you have like a gel bead

702
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:36,000
that you like squish and then as you're inhaling

703
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:40,000
bringing it through the filter or whatever yeah then it sure so they had this one that seemed

704
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:44,000
to have like multiple gel gels in it

705
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:48,000
so that you could create different combinations of flavors and I'm just like

706
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:54,000
freaking what I mean cool idea I guess

707
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:58,000
like I said if you're trying to get people to smoke more

708
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:04,000
and they had like this like charade was

709
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:08,000
collecting like cool packages so there was this flying horse one

710
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:12,000
that's from some meme like if smoking so bad why is the horse

711
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:16,000
so happy or something like that I don't know there was some he was explaining it to me he's

712
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:20,000
he's very into the memes let's put it that way and

713
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:24,000
and so he like got this pack of like blue flying

714
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:28,000
horse I don't really want to share it on screen but I am trying to look it up

715
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:32,000
yeah yeah the top left top left right there

716
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:34,000
now it's fine we can just show the people there adults

717
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:40,000
if cigarette bad why horse happy checkmate liberals so he was

718
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:44,000
so we went on a mission to find these cigarettes

719
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:48,000
with the flying horse on them and it made me

720
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:52,000
sort of it really just made it impossible for me to not notice

721
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:56,000
the contrast between their approach which is

722
00:48:56,000 --> 00:49:00,000
seems to be pretty much have at it versus

723
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:04,000
here in Canada charade was telling me that

724
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:08,000
they're not even allowed to like brand them anymore like never mind getting rid of

725
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:12,000
Joe camel like they're allowed to say what the brand is

726
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:16,000
but they're not allowed to have flying horses on them they're not allowed to have

727
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:20,000
pretty elegant looking ladies smoking on them or you know anything like that

728
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:24,000
yeah and and they have just like the you know gross out

729
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:26,000
nastiest pictures on them because

730
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:32,000
you know we have socialized healthcare so

731
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:36,000
you know we literally all pay for people's

732
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:40,000
vices collectively which incentivize the government very strongly

733
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:44,000
to advise people that hey they probably shouldn't do things that are

734
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:48,000
extremely harmful and extremely expensive to treat I've always been really fascinated

735
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:52,000
how the smoke break became a thing at workplaces

736
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:58,000
no comment maybe not a topic we want to dive into but that has always been like

737
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:02,000
genuinely fascinated me that that became a thing yeah no it's it's mandated

738
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:06,000
so like our how our workplace

739
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:10,000
employment code or whatever you have to have like there's certain like

740
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:14,000
mandated break allowances and I think it's

741
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:18,000
been revised since then but my understanding

742
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:22,000
was at some point the cigarette break was specifically

743
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:26,000
for cigarettes and if you were a non-smoker you just didn't get it yeah

744
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:30,000
but I believe when I worked at the bread factory that was the rule yeah I

745
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:34,000
believe everybody gets the the 15 minute breaks or

746
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:38,000
whatever they are now don't don't quote me on that I don't work in a in the HR department

747
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:42,000
so anyone from LMG is watching talk to HR

748
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:46,000
before you start randomly taking I haven't looked into it in years the 15

749
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:50,000
minute breaks last time I heard were like

750
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:54,000
approval basis and

751
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:58,000
yeah I know way back in the day it's very likely changed by now but when I used to work at the

752
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:02,000
bread factory I remember complaining to management because I couldn't take

753
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:06,000
15 minute breaks because I didn't smoke and I was like this seems

754
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:10,000
very backwards I don't even necessarily like care about taking the break

755
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:14,000
that's fine but like the fact that there is a benefit if you are a smoker is

756
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:16,000
crazy to me

757
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:22,000
so anyway arc the question that prompted me to talk about just noticing

758
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:26,000
this difference was should vices like vapes cannabis alcohol gambling etc

759
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:30,000
should they be allowed to advertise at all I mean I'll say this much

760
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:34,000
I liked watching sports more

761
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:38,000
before every flipping stupid ad

762
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:42,000
was just and the commentator was talking about it sometimes and stuff I agree

763
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:46,000
but at the same time more people watch sports now

764
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:50,000
and are maybe more engaged so if you're the company if you're the NFL

765
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:54,000
you might want or quite quite famously

766
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:58,000
the NBA has talked about it extensively that the viewers are more engaged

767
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:02,000
and they spend more and so but then if you're going to make an ends justify

768
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:06,000
the means argument shouldn't the ends be something other than more money

769
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:10,000
like should there be a more positive

770
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:14,000
like society positive end if you're going to ends justify the

771
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:18,000
means me on the company will never take that route

772
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:22,000
their multi-billion dollar whatever

773
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:26,000
NBA is all over the place company there yeah but our question is should they

774
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:30,000
be allowed yeah so we're talking on a government stance yeah

775
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:34,000
yeah I don't know like it's weird because you get into like free speech stuff and whatnot sure

776
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:38,000
yeah I'm just like freedom of you know being a being an adult with

777
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:42,000
you know agency I mean I think that's that's something that you know I've

778
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:46,000
thought about a lot ever since my sister's passing right like is at the end of the day

779
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:50,000
I don't like the decision that she made but if somebody chooses to harm

780
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:54,000
their body whether it's harming it just a little bit

781
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:58,000
or whether it's harming it an awful lot like

782
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:02,000
but then there's like what can you do about it is the argument end right

783
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:06,000
because like do you ban snowboarding yeah exactly that's a great point

784
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:10,000
do you ban almost every sport it's a great it's a great

785
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:12,000
point because

786
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:18,000
I mean you can even you could even make

787
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:22,000
and I'd say it's a pretty bad faith argument but there

788
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:26,000
would be some logical basis to it like you could make an argument

789
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:30,000
that sports done excessively can be extremely

790
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:34,000
harmful that sports done excessively can cause

791
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:38,000
a similar sort of chemical release in your body that

792
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:42,000
makes you want to do more and more and more of it and that you can become obsessive

793
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:46,000
I mean anything in unhealthy quantities there are some people like that is really bad for you

794
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:50,000
there's people that get addicted to working out yeah that can that can show up in bad ways

795
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:54,000
100% yeah

796
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:58,000
what are you supposed to do ban advertising doing sports should gyms

797
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:02,000
not be able to advertise if we're talking about the

798
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:06,000
the weight on the medical system as well yeah like my family

799
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:10,000
knew how to effectively sneak into the emergency

800
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:14,000
wing of the local hospital because we were in there so often that it was just like

801
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:18,000
annoying to have to talk to the people and be like yeah we know someone in here we should be able to visit them

802
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:26,000
because we did every single sport possibly imaginable so like

803
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:28,000
little problems here and there were pretty normal

804
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:36,000
just get one of those stamp card things yeah a certain amount of visits

805
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:38,000
oh another another leg there bud

806
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:46,000
so I don't know but then you know the flip side of it is so again so you know

807
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:50,000
where should be the line then should should I have to flip on youtube

808
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:54,000
and see a commercial for fentanyl

809
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:58,000
right for fent pills

810
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:02,000
I have generally enjoyed that the

811
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:06,000
I like that it's strange watching tv in the states because we don't have

812
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:10,000
the amount of like lawyer and pharmaceutical

813
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:14,000
ads that they have down there I like that we don't have those

814
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:18,000
I watch their tv and go wow

815
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:22,000
I'm happy I don't have these ads not that I exactly watch tv up here either but

816
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:24,000
you know what I mean

817
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:32,000
some more house hippo less zanax from Dan I agree

818
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:36,000
yeah the house hippo was based birdian says I've never seen an ad

819
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:40,000
for fent pills no I know it's a hypothetical

820
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:44,000
an exaggeration yeah well it's just

821
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:48,000
it's demonstrating that at some point

822
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:52,000
like I think fundamentally when you really get into it

823
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:56,000
even the most anti-regulation person eventually goes oh well

824
00:55:56,000 --> 00:56:00,000
we should probably regulate that something yeah yeah it's just that

825
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:04,000
where you end up in a very difficult conversation sometimes

826
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:08,000
is that everyone has the line at a different point like I think

827
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:12,000
the vast majority of people should would probably agree

828
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:16,000
that you know that like methamphetamine

829
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:20,000
probably shouldn't be just you know advertised

830
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:24,000
during a sports ball game you know you shouldn't have athletes wearing

831
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:28,000
like you know meff4u.com emblems on their helmets

832
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:32,000
I'm able to keep playing through the pain because right like

833
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:36,000
we could probably all agree that that's not good

834
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:40,000
we probably shouldn't do that but then you know you

835
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:44,000
end up over over on the flip side where it's just

836
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:48,000
I just thought of it totally yeah I don't want to see it

837
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:52,000
should I see it who cares

838
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:56,000
Germans like long hikes do you want to keep going on long hikes

839
00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:58,000
that's a reference

840
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:06,000
do you want to be able to keep hiking through the night

841
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:12,000
okay so anyway um

842
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:18,000
yeah uh wow so maybe what we could do

843
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:22,000
is a new topic why don't we do that, Luke you want to pick one

844
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:26,000
uh Nintendo may have lost a key holiday to Poland

845
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:30,000
oh no

846
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:36,000
Nintendo may have lost a key it's not funny when you are the next

847
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:40,000
Poland yes uh Nintendo may have

848
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:44,000
lost a key pokemon capture patent filing in Japan

849
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:48,000
we have a bunch of different sources for this uh games fray

850
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:52,000
creative block pc gamer games fray reported the jpo

851
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:56,000
or the japan patent office has issued an office action

852
00:57:56,000 --> 00:58:00,000
uh an initial decision against a nintendo patent filing

853
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:04,000
related to its action against pal world developer

854
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:08,000
pocket pair funny of course their company name is

855
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:12,000
even similar um following a third party submission

856
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:16,000
of prior art nintendo's filing

857
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:20,000
2024-031879 is part of a chain of patents related

858
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:24,000
to the capture mechanic uh the capture mechanic

859
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:28,000
described as a player character throwing a ball at a character

860
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:32,000
in virtual space capturing the character and setting it

861
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:36,000
in the player character's possession okay so throwing a pokeball

862
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:40,000
basically basically pc gamer described the subject

863
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:44,000
of this particular patent as combining third person aiming

864
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:48,000
with two modes to throw items that either affect the target character

865
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:52,000
like stunning it or capturing it or initiate combat against the target character

866
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:56,000
by releasing a creature to battle it which happens in the newer pokemon games

867
00:58:56,000 --> 00:59:00,000
so pokemon battle the rejected patent isn't directly related

868
00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:04,000
to the case the child and parent of patents

869
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:08,000
that are reference prior art games

870
00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:12,000
include arc, monster, hunter 4, pocket pairs, craftopia

871
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:16,000
and pokemon go okay

872
00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:20,000
uh the the jpo said nintendo's process lacked

873
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:24,000
an inventive step onlookers have complained about the stagnant

874
00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:28,000
pokemon series since this lawsuit began and just to be very clear

875
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:32,000
for many many many years many years before that

876
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:36,000
I mean basically since trying to think the first one

877
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:40,000
no n64 had that like coliseum battler yeah so that was

878
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:44,000
from my stadium yeah that was a little difference thank you coliseum but that's not a mainline game

879
00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:48,000
I'm just I'm just saying like you know neither would have

880
00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:52,000
um uh neither would have pal world

881
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:56,000
like that wouldn't have necessarily been a mainline game so I'm just that's fair I'm just trying to say like

882
00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:58,000
that is for for sure fair

883
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:04,000
online version of the card game yeah

884
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:08,000
I'm I'm trying to throw them a no I'm no yeah you're right I'm trying

885
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:12,000
to throw them a bone that's because like the mainline games you always hear the same thing like

886
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:16,000
every time I talk to someone about pokemon games like Glenn for instance we were just on that trip

887
01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:20,000
to Japan together oh I was also in Japan um we're on that trip to Japan together

888
01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:24,000
and he was playing whatever the latest pokemon was and I was like oh yeah

889
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:28,000
I haven't played one since blue and he's like sitting there playing a pokemon game like yeah you haven't

890
01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:32,000
missed much um yep and that seems to be the general consensus

891
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:36,000
but I'm just I'm trying to throw a bone trying to throw a bone no so you're you're right

892
01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:40,000
I don't know if the online version of the card game counts I don't count either

893
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:44,000
but there are a lot of others pokemon snap no there was the detective

894
01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:48,000
Pikachu uh the movie that was something wasn't a game

895
01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:52,000
yeah it was good Ryan Reynolds you love to see it

896
01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:56,000
can movie patents apply to no no no I don't mean from like a patenting standpoint

897
01:00:56,000 --> 01:01:00,000
I just mean like you know they haven't they haven't because it sounded like you were about

898
01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:04,000
to get into just like stagnant stagnant pokemon series in general just how utterly stagnant

899
01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:08,000
it's been but it is it for sure has been yeah

900
01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:10,000
Ryan Reynolds Canadian treasure

901
01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:16,000
uh he's been doing mean things for a bit has he hasn't he

902
01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:20,000
no I thought him and his wife were going after some dude and

903
01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:24,000
crazy legal fight and something something something am I

904
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:28,000
thinking the wrong guy I mean I know that Blake Lively

905
01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:32,000
has been involved in a lawsuit

906
01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:36,000
okay me I don't know I don't care dude

907
01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:42,000
there's so many not okay not only is there just so many controversies

908
01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:46,000
every day that it's just exhausting to even consider keeping up with

909
01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:50,000
but that's one that's like not even in our realm that's movie stuff so like

910
01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:54,000
I don't know I've only heard of this one because

911
01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:58,000
someone that I know was talking about it and I

912
01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:02,000
even then it was a lot to care enough to pay attention

913
01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:06,000
hmm yeah anyways

914
01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:12,000
earlier this year Nintendo sought to modify another patent related

915
01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:16,000
to creature riding mid litigation suggesting difficulty

916
01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:20,000
in proceedings games Frey said litigants

917
01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:24,000
litigants whatever don't change a patent in the

918
01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:28,000
middle of an infringement case unless they feel the patent is at a

919
01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:32,000
fairly high risk of being deemed invalid in its original form

920
01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:36,000
which does kind of make sense

921
01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:40,000
discussion question is if Nintendo ultimately loses this lawsuit how does that

922
01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:44,000
bode for its litigious attitude will it encourage more fighting

923
01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:48,000
back a significant amount maybe

924
01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:52,000
oh my I don't think Nintendo will start backing

925
01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:56,000
down it might be that if they lose this other companies see them

926
01:02:56,000 --> 01:03:00,000
as less scary therefore will fight more but I don't

927
01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:04,000
I don't feel like this will slow Nintendo down at all if anything they're just going to try to

928
01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:08,000
be more buttoned up about things so that they are less

929
01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:12,000
counterable that's all I would expect would happen

930
01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:16,000
in summary Blake Lively accuses director Justin

931
01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:20,000
Baldoni of toxicity on set

932
01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:24,000
Justin Baldoni counter accuses Blake Lively of being

933
01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:28,000
toxic on set cool Ryan Reynolds is in Blake Lively's

934
01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:32,000
corner because she is his wife and

935
01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:36,000
they have both taken reputational hits over this whole drama

936
01:03:38,000 --> 01:03:42,000
you're welcome that is celeb linked

937
01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:46,000
my life is worse for having known that is it really yes worse

938
01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:50,000
not very measurably okay I was gonna say I

939
01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:54,000
well okay no I gotta push back on that because by the

940
01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:58,000
time we talk again next week on show you will not know it anymore

941
01:03:58,000 --> 01:04:02,000
but there's some other potentially better information that could

942
01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:06,000
have been put in my head that I would have also forgot by next week

943
01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:10,000
dude people ask me like hours after when show about something I said on

944
01:04:10,000 --> 01:04:14,000
show and I'll be like did I okay I don't know

945
01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:16,000
yeah

946
01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:22,000
I was so ready for this one you sensed it

947
01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:26,000
alright what else I sensed is that it's time for us to talk about merge

948
01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:30,000
messages if you're not familiar you must be new here

949
01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:34,000
welcome merge messages are our way

950
01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:38,000
of having you guys interact with the show rather than having

951
01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:42,000
you donate to people who frankly probably

952
01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:46,000
statistically speaking don't need it as much as you do or just throw

953
01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:50,000
money at your screen in hopes that something good might happen

954
01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:54,000
if you want to interact with the show hey why don't you send a merge

955
01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:58,000
message all you gotta do is go to LTTstore.com

956
01:04:58,000 --> 01:05:02,000
and add something to your cart once you add it to your cart

957
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:06,000
you will be prompted to leave a merge message

958
01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:08,000
it will go to producer Dan

959
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:12,000
producer Anon excuse me

960
01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:18,000
who will redirect it to wherever it needs to go or will reply

961
01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:22,000
to it himself or will just throw it up on screen with a little

962
01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:26,000
hi mom or whatever or he might if you are really

963
01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:30,000
lucky curate it and Luke and I will respond to

964
01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:34,000
your merge message that box is only there when we're live by

965
01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:38,000
the way before you guys go and send a merge message for today

966
01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:42,000
why don't we have a look at some of the things that are on the store that's

967
01:05:42,000 --> 01:05:46,000
right keeping with our halloween spooky theme we are

968
01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:50,000
bringing some of our most iconic shirt designs back

969
01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:54,000
from the dead do you need to do like

970
01:05:54,000 --> 01:05:58,000
a full refresh or something do you oh LMG.gg

971
01:05:58,000 --> 01:06:02,000
slash greatest hits he's got it

972
01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:08,000
we're calling it the greatest hits collection five of our best

973
01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:12,000
selling t-shirts from the last few years reimagined in both

974
01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:16,000
uh oh oh already

975
01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:20,000
to update this text to let us know when it's good to go

976
01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:26,000
in fairness to me it wasn't that red or yellow

977
01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:30,000
and it wasn't that prominently placed it wasn't that red or yellow

978
01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:34,000
what do you mean it was exactly that

979
01:06:34,000 --> 01:06:38,000
I'm being verbally ironic to be fair it is technically an advertisement

980
01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:42,000
and you didn't see it that is fair

981
01:06:42,000 --> 01:06:46,000
I'll give him that okay we are going to have to do this later

982
01:06:46,000 --> 01:06:50,000
later we can still do the merge message

983
01:06:50,000 --> 01:06:54,000
sure let's do a couple of merge messages Dan hit me I got one for you here

984
01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:58,000
hey lld this is an aviation systems technician

985
01:06:58,000 --> 01:07:02,000
in the Canadian armed forces and a helicopter

986
01:07:02,000 --> 01:07:06,000
pilot am I right

987
01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:10,000
you're right new autonomous helicopters

988
01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:14,000
kind of make me worry about the future of the industry would you ever ride

989
01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:18,000
in an AI helicopter and has new tech ever ruined a passion

990
01:07:20,000 --> 01:07:24,000
all of them everyone

991
01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:28,000
I think a lot of ice block enthusiasts probably were pretty

992
01:07:28,000 --> 01:07:30,000
peeved about the invention of the refrigerator

993
01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:36,000
yeah people who like we used to have to worry about

994
01:07:36,000 --> 01:07:40,000
but he said a passion do you think there was ice block

995
01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:44,000
no yeah well you know what some people get pretty passionate about

996
01:07:44,000 --> 01:07:48,000
it could be some guy that just feels like he really

997
01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:52,000
had a good technique really good at cutting them out

998
01:07:52,000 --> 01:07:56,000
okay I think a better example might be horses in the automobile then

999
01:07:56,000 --> 01:08:00,000
because people were very passionate about their horses which I totally get

1000
01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:04,000
how about tech shops oh dude

1001
01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:08,000
that's a career and a passion a lot of people get into running a mom and pop tech

1002
01:08:08,000 --> 01:08:12,000
shop because they

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01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:16,000
you know want to fix people's computers I had when I was like

1004
01:08:16,000 --> 01:08:20,000
14 that seemed like a very possible vision for my future

1005
01:08:20,000 --> 01:08:24,000
yep not so much pretty tough

1006
01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:26,000
pretty tough business

1007
01:08:28,000 --> 01:08:32,000
what was I gonna say I was gonna say something what topic were we on again

1008
01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:36,000
oh yeah that's right it was a merge message I was gonna get somewhere with this

1009
01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:40,000
hold on where'd it go yeah would you ever ride an AI helicopter

1010
01:08:44,000 --> 01:08:48,000
it seems to me that in terms of like

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01:08:48,000 --> 01:08:52,000
handling the inputs and outputs so by inputs I would mean

1012
01:08:52,000 --> 01:08:56,000
things like you know wind direction

1013
01:08:56,000 --> 01:09:00,000
and things like readings off of an altimeter

1014
01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:04,000
I don't even I don't even know if you need AI

1015
01:09:04,000 --> 01:09:08,000
to make a helicopter somewhat autonomous necessarily

1016
01:09:08,000 --> 01:09:12,000
like you could do it algorithmically without

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01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:16,000
necessarily AI I mean a lot of the AI in an autonomous car for instance

1018
01:09:16,000 --> 01:09:20,000
is more about the recognition of the route and obstacles

1019
01:09:20,000 --> 01:09:24,000
I mean you'd certainly need AI for any kind of like

1020
01:09:24,000 --> 01:09:28,000
vision component of it so for like landing or

1021
01:09:28,000 --> 01:09:30,000
obstacle avoidance or whatever else I

1022
01:09:32,000 --> 01:09:36,000
would I ride in an AI helicopter good lord

1023
01:09:38,000 --> 01:09:42,000
knowing how sketchy helicopters are in the first place yeah like

1024
01:09:42,000 --> 01:09:46,000
have you been in one I forget yeah like few times were you sketched

1025
01:09:46,000 --> 01:09:48,000
no really I was a little sketched

1026
01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:54,000
the pilot was pilot was great totally I trusted the pilot is my brother

1027
01:09:54,000 --> 01:09:58,000
in law so certainly no interest in seeing me plummet to the ground with him

1028
01:09:58,000 --> 01:10:02,000
in the helicopter unless unless what I don't know

1029
01:10:02,000 --> 01:10:06,000
yeah no should be fine all right

1030
01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:08,000
yeah yeah stop Alec

1031
01:10:10,000 --> 01:10:14,000
so that was fine I understand the whole the Jesus nut thing yeah

1032
01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:18,000
and the whole thing it just felt like it felt like crap

1033
01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:22,000
you know like it felt really cheap yeah it's like yeah this is like

1034
01:10:22,000 --> 01:10:26,000
you know multi however many thousands and thousands of dollars

1035
01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:30,000
machine and it feels cheaper than like my parents

1036
01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:34,000
Geo Metro when I was a kid like it's a light

1037
01:10:34,000 --> 01:10:38,000
box strapped to yeah insane death spinny

1038
01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:42,000
things yeah right like yeah but that's kind of sick carrying around

1039
01:10:42,000 --> 01:10:46,000
a bunch of fuel you know pretty terrifying I

1040
01:10:46,000 --> 01:10:50,000
but you know if you're talking like worrying about the future

1041
01:10:50,000 --> 01:10:54,000
the industry from like a like a piloting stance like are we gonna are we gonna

1042
01:10:54,000 --> 01:10:58,000
lose the skill to to pilot aircraft

1043
01:10:58,000 --> 01:11:02,000
because we're just gonna like rely on them just operating

1044
01:11:02,000 --> 01:11:06,000
autonomously I mean yeah that's happened for lots of yeah I thought I know I yeah

1045
01:11:06,000 --> 01:11:10,000
I think that's I think that's a very real concern I don't see them going away forever

1046
01:11:10,000 --> 01:11:14,000
just like people still ride horses and are still very

1047
01:11:14,000 --> 01:11:18,000
enthusiastic about riding horses I think people will still fly aircraft

1048
01:11:20,000 --> 01:11:24,000
but will it be a disrupter in the industry I wouldn't doubt it

1049
01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:28,000
yeah this does seem like a perfect segue

1050
01:11:28,000 --> 01:11:30,000
into something that we

1051
01:11:32,000 --> 01:11:36,000
we're not right about last week so we got some clarifications on

1052
01:11:36,000 --> 01:11:40,000
jet a fuel apparently I mean we kind of talked about this

1053
01:11:40,000 --> 01:11:44,000
last week it's very similar to kerosene

1054
01:11:44,000 --> 01:11:48,000
and what else is it similar to I think the biggest

1055
01:11:48,000 --> 01:11:52,000
thing that I read that we didn't figure out before the end of the show is that

1056
01:11:52,000 --> 01:11:56,000
the gas turbines were like a thing

1057
01:11:56,000 --> 01:12:00,000
actually a super a thing and like pretty efficient yeah so this was posted by

1058
01:12:00,000 --> 01:12:04,000
low boom from the ECC squad I think

1059
01:12:04,000 --> 01:12:08,000
but it's not as crazy as it seems on the face they're doing a lot more than just strapping a jet engine

1060
01:12:08,000 --> 01:12:12,000
to a stand yeah this is the turbojet core of the turbofan engine

1061
01:12:12,000 --> 01:12:16,000
so there's no fan and they're not running it on jet a

1062
01:12:16,000 --> 01:12:20,000
so you can actually modify it to run on natural gas and hydrogen

1063
01:12:20,000 --> 01:12:24,000
so no not as efficient as a purpose designed natural gas

1064
01:12:24,000 --> 01:12:28,000
turbine like a power station would use but still quite quite efficient

1065
01:12:28,000 --> 01:12:32,000
yeah quite efficient quite cheap to operate

1066
01:12:32,000 --> 01:12:36,000
and apparently there's a lot of these things just like

1067
01:12:36,000 --> 01:12:40,000
kicking around because they've been retired from aviation use

1068
01:12:40,000 --> 01:12:44,000
so this was something that Nene exists ads ads they've been retired from

1069
01:12:44,000 --> 01:12:48,000
aviation use so you might as well do something with them this gives them

1070
01:12:48,000 --> 01:12:52,000
a productive use yeah so it does still it does still

1071
01:12:52,000 --> 01:12:56,000
seem a little ridiculous to me where we get

1072
01:12:56,000 --> 01:13:00,000
the majority of our energy from falling water

1073
01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:02,000
to be just like

1074
01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:08,000
you know spitting spinning did you hear about the the

1075
01:13:08,000 --> 01:13:12,000
BC hydroband on crypto yeah I did crazy

1076
01:13:12,000 --> 01:13:16,000
to be clear it was only making permanent

1077
01:13:16,000 --> 01:13:20,000
what was already a moratorium from a couple of years ago but I didn't

1078
01:13:20,000 --> 01:13:24,000
actually know that yeah crypto mining is is effectively

1079
01:13:24,000 --> 01:13:28,000
banned at least I think new startup operations are

1080
01:13:28,000 --> 01:13:32,000
banned in the province now in order to conserve our energy

1081
01:13:32,000 --> 01:13:36,000
capacity for closing down current business I don't think so

1082
01:13:36,000 --> 01:13:40,000
don't quote me on that though I would also be very surprised if any current

1083
01:13:40,000 --> 01:13:44,000
business were able to expand significantly

1084
01:13:44,000 --> 01:13:48,000
and it doesn't stop any crypto mining in the province I don't think it does

1085
01:13:48,000 --> 01:13:52,000
anything about that one where they bought their own hydro dam or whatever it was

1086
01:13:52,000 --> 01:13:56,000
so it would only make sense it's just yeah you can't get it from BC hydro

1087
01:13:56,000 --> 01:14:00,000
directly if you're on the grid so cool

1088
01:14:00,000 --> 01:14:04,000
I mean honestly it seems like something that more places

1089
01:14:04,000 --> 01:14:08,000
might have done earlier than they did like

1090
01:14:08,000 --> 01:14:12,000
China banned it ages ago if I recall correctly I don't know I could see

1091
01:14:12,000 --> 01:14:16,000
like because basically everywhere at least a little bit

1092
01:14:16,000 --> 01:14:20,000
of power is subsidized it would be kind of interesting to do

1093
01:14:20,000 --> 01:14:24,000
like okay maybe you don't have to buy your own dam or your own power plant of whatever

1094
01:14:24,000 --> 01:14:28,000
sort but you could get flagged

1095
01:14:28,000 --> 01:14:32,000
as like non subsidized power birdie num num says

1096
01:14:32,000 --> 01:14:36,000
seemed like a cop out for not increasing infrastructure this is why I'm saying

1097
01:14:36,000 --> 01:14:40,000
what I'm saying because if you get non subsidized power then you're just

1098
01:14:40,000 --> 01:14:44,000
contributing to potentially building more infrastructure potentially

1099
01:14:44,000 --> 01:14:48,000
potentially so that seems fine to me but that's a little bit

1100
01:14:48,000 --> 01:14:52,000
difficult to police maybe and and also I mean part of the rationale

1101
01:14:52,000 --> 01:14:56,000
was that they want the power going to

1102
01:14:56,000 --> 01:15:00,000
they want the power going to projects that generate economic prosperity

1103
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:04,000
for the province of British Columbia and doom scrolling so

1104
01:15:04,000 --> 01:15:08,000
real mining was one of the ones that they specifically brought up

1105
01:15:08,000 --> 01:15:12,000
not crypto mining so it's not that we don't have

1106
01:15:12,000 --> 01:15:16,000
power it's that we don't want to use it for mining

1107
01:15:16,000 --> 01:15:20,000
bitcoins that realistically all of the economic value of which

1108
01:15:20,000 --> 01:15:24,000
are going to go out rather than contributing to new

1109
01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:28,000
projects and building our economy so I get it

1110
01:15:28,000 --> 01:15:32,000
I get it actually I don't

1111
01:15:32,000 --> 01:15:34,000
really see a problem with it personally

1112
01:15:36,000 --> 01:15:40,000
what else do we want to talk about we got a lot this week

1113
01:15:40,000 --> 01:15:44,000
we do have a lot this week we're on two more topics

1114
01:15:44,000 --> 01:15:48,000
should we do another one of the big main ones do you want to talk about AI powered

1115
01:15:48,000 --> 01:15:52,000
surfing oh yeah that one sure let's do it all right double speed AI

1116
01:15:52,000 --> 01:15:56,000
a start up bulk content creation

1117
01:15:56,000 --> 01:16:00,000
service by the way headache warning by the time I'm

1118
01:16:00,000 --> 01:16:04,000
finished talking you will have at least the beginnings of a migraine

1119
01:16:04,000 --> 01:16:08,000
so stay tuned double speed AI a start up

1120
01:16:08,000 --> 01:16:12,000
bulk content creation service has received a million dollar investment

1121
01:16:12,000 --> 01:16:16,000
from a 16 Z a.k.a. Andre

1122
01:16:16,000 --> 01:16:20,000
Horowitz the venture capital firm founded by Mark Anderson and Ben

1123
01:16:20,000 --> 01:16:24,000
Horowitz in 2009 the start up

1124
01:16:24,000 --> 01:16:28,000
operates a phone farm that lets its customers

1125
01:16:28,000 --> 01:16:32,000
orchestrate actions on thousands of social accounts

1126
01:16:32,000 --> 01:16:36,000
through both bulk content creation and deployment through

1127
01:16:36,000 --> 01:16:40,000
instrumented human action that seems to be

1128
01:16:40,000 --> 01:16:44,000
a wordy way of saying that the companies phone bots

1129
01:16:44,000 --> 01:16:48,000
mimic human interactions on physical devices in order

1130
01:16:48,000 --> 01:16:52,000
to trick the increasingly AI powered content moderation that is

1131
01:16:52,000 --> 01:16:56,000
employed by social platforms which seems like a wordy way to say

1132
01:16:56,000 --> 01:17:00,000
that they use actual phones rather than virtualized hardware

1133
01:17:00,000 --> 01:17:04,000
connected to cellular networks

1134
01:17:04,000 --> 01:17:08,000
rather than connected to a data center and then they use

1135
01:17:08,000 --> 01:17:12,000
a robot finger essentially to operate the phone

1136
01:17:12,000 --> 01:17:16,000
in such a way that it is indistinguishable from a human operating the

1137
01:17:16,000 --> 01:17:20,000
phone to get past any kind of spam prevention

1138
01:17:20,000 --> 01:17:24,000
that would be put in place by the platforms which is a wordy way of saying

1139
01:17:24,000 --> 01:17:28,000
they buy phone, robot ARM touch

1140
01:17:28,000 --> 01:17:32,000
seem like human might not even really be ARM you might yeah it might not

1141
01:17:32,000 --> 01:17:36,000
a pokey thing that goes the point is just that by operating the device

1142
01:17:36,000 --> 01:17:40,000
kind of like kind of like aim bots

1143
01:17:40,000 --> 01:17:44,000
or cheating mechanisms that rather than being

1144
01:17:44,000 --> 01:17:48,000
software are hardware so where you actually have

1145
01:17:48,000 --> 01:17:52,000
your mouse on an XY robot of some sort that

1146
01:17:52,000 --> 01:17:56,000
moves it that would be impossible for any kind of anti-cheat

1147
01:17:56,000 --> 01:18:00,000
to detect if you had like a separate computer monitoring the video feed

1148
01:18:00,000 --> 01:18:04,000
and using machine vision to look for opponents for instance

1149
01:18:04,000 --> 01:18:08,000
so this is basically the phone bot farm

1150
01:18:08,000 --> 01:18:12,000
spam content version of that kind of aim bot

1151
01:18:12,000 --> 01:18:16,000
if that makes sense clients will pay between

1152
01:18:16,000 --> 01:18:20,000
$1,500 $1,500

1153
01:18:20,000 --> 01:18:24,000
a month to use the phone farm which can even

1154
01:18:24,000 --> 01:18:28,000
DM users based on their public comments saying things like

1155
01:18:28,000 --> 01:18:32,000
do you know that it's robot? no

1156
01:18:32,000 --> 01:18:36,000
it probably isn't oh

1157
01:18:36,000 --> 01:18:40,000
oh because basically the idea is that by using a physical device

1158
01:18:40,000 --> 01:18:44,000
and some means of inputting as closely as how a human would do it

1159
01:18:44,000 --> 01:18:48,000
as possible it will be impossible to track oh yeah but I don't I don't I suspect

1160
01:18:48,000 --> 01:18:52,000
sorry I should have clarified this in the longer term they may go that far

1161
01:18:52,000 --> 01:18:56,000
as to physically interact with the screens for now they probably don't have to

1162
01:18:56,000 --> 01:19:00,000
especially if they're using Android so this was shared in full

1163
01:19:00,000 --> 01:19:04,000
and is my understanding of how these places usually tend to look

1164
01:19:04,000 --> 01:19:08,000
there you go just a bunch of phones some of them don't even have screens

1165
01:19:08,000 --> 01:19:12,000
pretty wild and it is what it is

1166
01:19:12,000 --> 01:19:16,000
just tons and tons and tons and tons of phones phones for

1167
01:19:16,000 --> 01:19:20,000
days that's where your fake internet comes from yep

1168
01:19:20,000 --> 01:19:24,000
dead internet theory baby yeah sorry I should have

1169
01:19:24,000 --> 01:19:28,000
I should have clarified that it's not necessary today

1170
01:19:28,000 --> 01:19:32,000
but what I suspect is that over time their spam prevention

1171
01:19:32,000 --> 01:19:36,000
will get more sophisticated and they will start to they'll start to implement

1172
01:19:36,000 --> 01:19:40,000
you know patterns of tracking your behavior where

1173
01:19:40,000 --> 01:19:44,000
if all of your inputs are you know too precise or if you don't or if they're not

1174
01:19:44,000 --> 01:19:48,000
inconsistent enough they might be able to detect the patterns in this kind of

1175
01:19:48,000 --> 01:19:52,000
software managed screenless device I don't know that

1176
01:19:52,000 --> 01:19:56,000
there might be other ways to detect it are you a robot boxes

1177
01:19:56,000 --> 01:20:00,000
have been effectively fake for a very long time like 10 years now yeah like they don't those

1178
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:04,000
don't matter at all but they're there might there might be other ways like

1179
01:20:04,000 --> 01:20:08,000
rooted into the operating system or something I don't know but in those cases

1180
01:20:08,000 --> 01:20:12,000
you can almost certainly just get around it pretty easily to be honest

1181
01:20:12,000 --> 01:20:16,000
I don't know so yeah clients pay between

1182
01:20:16,000 --> 01:20:20,000
1500 and 7500 a month to use the phone farm which can even DM

1183
01:20:20,000 --> 01:20:24,000
users based on their public comments saying things like

1184
01:20:24,000 --> 01:20:28,000
sorry to hear you're experiencing double speed co-founder

1185
01:20:28,000 --> 01:20:32,000
you should try why apparently it works

1186
01:20:32,000 --> 01:20:36,000
double speed co-founder Zuhair Lakhani

1187
01:20:36,000 --> 01:20:40,000
okay claimed on Twitter that out of 130 DMs that were sent

1188
01:20:40,000 --> 01:20:44,000
in one campaign 15 pointed to a conversion of course

1189
01:20:44,000 --> 01:20:48,000
he's a double speed co-founder so he would say that it's really really great

1190
01:20:48,000 --> 01:20:52,000
he went on to post a vision for the future of social agents

1191
01:20:52,000 --> 01:20:56,000
asking Simba from the Lion King have an Instagram account

1192
01:20:56,000 --> 01:21:00,000
where he posts, engages in comments and gets added to group chats

1193
01:21:00,000 --> 01:21:04,000
the code because that's because it's all fake Simba's gonna

1194
01:21:04,000 --> 01:21:08,000
convince someone to unalive themselves that's why the code running the

1195
01:21:08,000 --> 01:21:12,000
service is also at least partially AI generated with Lakhani writing

1196
01:21:12,000 --> 01:21:16,000
cloud code is truly our third co-founder it's worth

1197
01:21:16,000 --> 01:21:20,000
noting that pretty much all of this is already against

1198
01:21:20,000 --> 01:21:24,000
the terms of service on multiple top social media platforms

1199
01:21:24,000 --> 01:21:28,000
meta for instance prohibits posting, sharing or engaging content at high frequencies

1200
01:21:28,000 --> 01:21:32,000
and specifically disallows selling, buying or exchanging

1201
01:21:32,000 --> 01:21:36,000
for engagements such as likes, shares, views follows clicks, use of specific hashtags

1202
01:21:36,000 --> 01:21:40,000
etc it's been increasingly unclear though

1203
01:21:40,000 --> 01:21:44,000
if any of these platforms are actually interested in enforcing any of these

1204
01:21:44,000 --> 01:21:46,000
policies

1205
01:21:48,000 --> 01:21:50,000
so yeah

1206
01:21:52,000 --> 01:21:56,000
thoughts? cool

1207
01:21:56,000 --> 01:22:00,000
it feels like in a lot of ways to me that some of these efforts

1208
01:22:00,000 --> 01:22:04,000
I have this is probably tinfoil

1209
01:22:04,000 --> 01:22:08,000
hat just to be very clear I'm prepping everyone this is probably tinfoil hat

1210
01:22:08,000 --> 01:22:12,000
but it feels like to me some of these efforts are pointed in order to

1211
01:22:12,000 --> 01:22:16,000
make the free and open internet bad

1212
01:22:16,000 --> 01:22:20,000
oh wow we are getting into tinfoil

1213
01:22:20,000 --> 01:22:24,000
I'm telling you I am fully accepting that this is tinfoil hat stuff

1214
01:22:24,000 --> 01:22:28,000
but there's just been so much stuff lately

1215
01:22:28,000 --> 01:22:32,000
that is directly targeted at severely worsening the experience

1216
01:22:32,000 --> 01:22:36,000
of free and open platform you are assuming that our lizard overlords

1217
01:22:36,000 --> 01:22:40,000
have the self-awareness to know that they are making it

1218
01:22:40,000 --> 01:22:44,000
bad I think you're giving them an awful lot

1219
01:22:44,000 --> 01:22:48,000
of credit that has not been earned maybe

1220
01:22:48,000 --> 01:22:52,000
do you think Elon Musk for instance

1221
01:22:52,000 --> 01:22:56,000
thinks that he has made Twitter worse or better

1222
01:22:56,000 --> 01:23:00,000
I do wonder there's no way he wouldn't say better

1223
01:23:00,000 --> 01:23:04,000
but I do wonder because there's like undoubtedly more bots on it

1224
01:23:04,000 --> 01:23:08,000
now than it was before do you think that he thinks

1225
01:23:08,000 --> 01:23:12,000
Grockopedia is better than Wikipedia or worse

1226
01:23:12,000 --> 01:23:16,000
he might actually think that's better do you think that Zuckerberg

1227
01:23:16,000 --> 01:23:20,000
Facebook is better Zuckerberg probably does not

1228
01:23:20,000 --> 01:23:24,000
think Facebook is better but is very happy about looting everyone

1229
01:23:24,000 --> 01:23:28,000
okay very heavily I feel like Zuck is a little bit more

1230
01:23:28,000 --> 01:23:32,000
aware does that make it better or worse

1231
01:23:32,000 --> 01:23:36,000
maybe worse but I don't know I'm not sure

1232
01:23:36,000 --> 01:23:40,000
you see Billie Eilish called him out oh that was cool

1233
01:23:40,000 --> 01:23:44,000
yeah she like donated a bunch of money and was like yeah billionaires suck basically

1234
01:23:44,000 --> 01:23:48,000
and if you're a billionaire you should be asking yourself why am I a billionaire and he was in the audience

1235
01:23:48,000 --> 01:23:52,000
oh yeah that was pretty cool wait she donated

1236
01:23:52,000 --> 01:23:56,000
a bunch of money to what I don't remember okay doesn't matter point to this

1237
01:23:56,000 --> 01:24:00,000
Zuckerberg didn't clap oh yeah nice

1238
01:24:00,000 --> 01:24:04,000
cool yeah sure Pawn Crackers

1239
01:24:04,000 --> 01:24:08,000
it might have been a publicity stunt I don't even care because like

1240
01:24:08,000 --> 01:24:12,000
at the end of the day it's not about who won W publicity

1241
01:24:12,000 --> 01:24:16,000
it's about who lost yeah yeah sometimes that's maybe

1242
01:24:16,000 --> 01:24:20,000
okay yeah I don't even look I don't even listen to her music

1243
01:24:20,000 --> 01:24:24,000
I don't mind it if it's on it's like background music for me like I'm not super into Billie Eilish

1244
01:24:24,000 --> 01:24:28,000
or anything but like

1245
01:24:28,000 --> 01:24:32,000
yeah I can still think someone's pretty cool for

1246
01:24:32,000 --> 01:24:36,000
pulling a move like that like that come on that's a power move

1247
01:24:36,000 --> 01:24:40,000
that's like oh man

1248
01:24:40,000 --> 01:24:44,000
who was it that that hosted

1249
01:24:44,000 --> 01:24:48,000
was it was it the Oscars and they basically like roasted everyone

1250
01:24:48,000 --> 01:24:52,000
like roasted Leonardo for being there with someone 20 years younger than him

1251
01:24:52,000 --> 01:24:56,000
like roasted all these guys yeah who was that someone yeah Ricky

1252
01:24:56,000 --> 01:25:00,000
Gervais he's so good

1253
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:02,000
yeah it's awesome

1254
01:25:04,000 --> 01:25:08,000
what are we what are we supposed to be doing right now another topic

1255
01:25:08,000 --> 01:25:12,000
sure let's do it you want to do house robots

1256
01:25:12,000 --> 01:25:16,000
sure let's do house robots Neo a home of course it's called

1257
01:25:16,000 --> 01:25:20,000
Neo a home robot yeah from 1x meant to do boring and mundane

1258
01:25:20,000 --> 01:25:24,000
tasks around the house for you is almost here

1259
01:25:24,000 --> 01:25:28,000
I'm gonna bring up the product page cool wow grandpa loves him

1260
01:25:28,000 --> 01:25:32,000
why are they hugging that's weird well only one of them is hugging Neo can't hug yet

1261
01:25:32,000 --> 01:25:36,000
oh boy give him time give it a list of chores to complete each day

1262
01:25:36,000 --> 01:25:40,000
like emptying the dishwasher or vacuuming the rugs it's

1263
01:25:40,000 --> 01:25:44,000
$20,000 and requires a $200 deposit

1264
01:25:44,000 --> 01:25:48,000
this gets ownership are they playing war

1265
01:25:50,000 --> 01:25:54,000
they couldn't have them play a real card game they're playing war

1266
01:25:58,000 --> 01:26:02,000
why instead of cleaning your house

1267
01:26:02,000 --> 01:26:06,000
you can do the worst card game

1268
01:26:06,000 --> 01:26:10,000
with an outcome that is predetermined oh

1269
01:26:10,000 --> 01:26:14,000
that's painful oh my god

1270
01:26:14,000 --> 01:26:18,000
alternatively it's a $500 a month subscription service option

1271
01:26:18,000 --> 01:26:22,000
which only comes with the starter productivity package wait

1272
01:26:22,000 --> 01:26:26,000
you don't have to pay the subscription if you buy it I thought it was both I think it's one or the other

1273
01:26:26,000 --> 01:26:30,000
interesting it is apparently lightweight no idea what that means

1274
01:26:30,000 --> 01:26:34,000
it is apparently quiet soft and gentle no idea what any of those mean

1275
01:26:34,000 --> 01:26:38,000
it comes in black white or blue colors and it launches in 2026

1276
01:26:38,000 --> 01:26:42,000
the wall street journal tried it early everything took a long time

1277
01:26:42,000 --> 01:26:46,000
loading three items into a dishwasher took five minutes

1278
01:26:46,000 --> 01:26:50,000
grabbing a bottle of water from the fridge 10 feet away took 10 inches away

1279
01:26:50,000 --> 01:26:54,000
no 10 feet away took 60

1280
01:26:54,000 --> 01:26:58,000
that's not that bad took 67 seconds everything was done through

1281
01:26:58,000 --> 01:27:02,000
tele operation because the 2026 launch

1282
01:27:02,000 --> 01:27:06,000
comes with caveats the AI isn't done learning and under

1283
01:27:06,000 --> 01:27:10,000
the grows with you section it says that this is early access

1284
01:27:10,000 --> 01:27:14,000
initial buyers are essentially beta testers which is true for almost

1285
01:27:14,000 --> 01:27:18,000
everything any task it can't do on its own someone will tele

1286
01:27:18,000 --> 01:27:22,000
operate for you there is no way

1287
01:27:22,000 --> 01:27:26,000
amazing this has to be scheduled the person connects

1288
01:27:26,000 --> 01:27:30,000
to the device and uses the eye cameras to see these tele operation

1289
01:27:30,000 --> 01:27:34,000
tasks are used to train the robots further

1290
01:27:34,000 --> 01:27:38,000
and then it quotes it says if we don't have your data we can't

1291
01:27:38,000 --> 01:27:40,000
make the product better

1292
01:27:42,000 --> 01:27:46,000
that's not true but anyways these are not

1293
01:27:46,000 --> 01:27:50,000
only humanoid these are not the only human robots coming during ifa 2025

1294
01:27:50,000 --> 01:27:54,000
neuro highlighted the for any one and MEPA

1295
01:27:54,000 --> 01:27:58,000
robots these focus on tasks that are dirty dollar dangerous and

1296
01:27:58,000 --> 01:28:02,000
they think that they still need a couple more years to go mainstream is this the one

1297
01:28:02,000 --> 01:28:06,000
that was held up by cables sure was hold on I'm not I'm not done

1298
01:28:06,000 --> 01:28:10,000
with Neo yet so basically they're just saying up front

1299
01:28:10,000 --> 01:28:14,000
what everyone else has had to admit after the fact

1300
01:28:14,000 --> 01:28:18,000
it's the whatever Turk remember

1301
01:28:18,000 --> 01:28:22,000
when the Amazon Turk from Amazon yeah yeah it's just that

1302
01:28:22,000 --> 01:28:26,000
it's almost certainly just that I'm not even kidding like API wasn't Amazon

1303
01:28:26,000 --> 01:28:30,000
Amazon's go store it turns out actually just mechanical Turk

1304
01:28:30,000 --> 01:28:34,000
yeah yeah what happened to builder dot yeah

1305
01:28:34,000 --> 01:28:38,000
AI equals oh man this is brutal

1306
01:28:38,000 --> 01:28:42,000
we've had we've had a zero go down

1307
01:28:42,000 --> 01:28:46,000
had AWS go down what would it mean if mechanical

1308
01:28:46,000 --> 01:28:50,000
Turk went down yeah Amazon's AI store seemed

1309
01:28:50,000 --> 01:28:54,000
too magical and they were the thousand contractors in India working on the companies

1310
01:28:54,000 --> 01:28:58,000
just walk out technology offer a stark reminder that AI isn't

1311
01:28:58,000 --> 01:29:02,000
always what it seems it might just be cheap labor

1312
01:29:02,000 --> 01:29:06,000
and this was not that long ago this was when AI had

1313
01:29:06,000 --> 01:29:10,000
made a lot of the progress that it's made over the last couple of years

1314
01:29:10,000 --> 01:29:12,000
um

1315
01:29:14,000 --> 01:29:18,000
at $500 what was it $500

1316
01:29:18,000 --> 01:29:22,000
yep $500 a month if it did everything that it said

1317
01:29:22,000 --> 01:29:26,000
it would be cheaper than some services that offer the same

1318
01:29:26,000 --> 01:29:30,000
okay so I'm guessing because if you tried to get like a maid

1319
01:29:30,000 --> 01:29:34,000
so is this the solution to

1320
01:29:34,000 --> 01:29:38,000
kicking out all the illegal immigrants maybe

1321
01:29:38,000 --> 01:29:42,000
if you try to get a maid that cleaned up your stuff every day

1322
01:29:42,000 --> 01:29:46,000
there's no way it costs less than or equal to $500 a month

1323
01:29:46,000 --> 01:29:50,000
but if it took them less than a minute to go get a cup of water

1324
01:29:50,000 --> 01:29:54,000
maybe they could only be there a couple days a week instead of there every day

1325
01:29:54,000 --> 01:29:58,000
no but if it's a constant cleanliness thing which this robot could theoretically

1326
01:29:58,000 --> 01:30:02,000
offer then they'd have to be there every day

1327
01:30:02,000 --> 01:30:06,000
I see if you want to be able to eat your food and drink your drinks

1328
01:30:06,000 --> 01:30:10,000
anywhere in the house and have it not be dirty the next day every day

1329
01:30:10,000 --> 01:30:14,000
every day they have to be there every day there's no way the sink and wash dishes though

1330
01:30:14,000 --> 01:30:18,000
I guess it could put it in the dishwasher but like oh man

1331
01:30:18,000 --> 01:30:22,000
can you imagine having to be the teleoperator

1332
01:30:22,000 --> 01:30:26,000
for this thing trying to like like you saw the hands right

1333
01:30:26,000 --> 01:30:30,000
what if it drops the fork do you think it can pick the fork back up

1334
01:30:30,000 --> 01:30:34,000
there goes two minutes or however long yeah or it

1335
01:30:34,000 --> 01:30:38,000
can't one of the two I'd be dude I'd be operating this and I'd be like I'd be like

1336
01:30:38,000 --> 01:30:42,000
I'd be like this I bleeped

1337
01:30:42,000 --> 01:30:46,000
until I said fork that was rough let's say forget it

1338
01:30:46,000 --> 01:30:50,000
anyways imagine needing

1339
01:30:50,000 --> 01:30:54,000
to hire a maid to clean up after your cleaning robot

1340
01:30:58,000 --> 01:31:02,000
fantastic I mean should we should oh man

1341
01:31:02,000 --> 01:31:06,000
discussion question is are we getting one

1342
01:31:06,000 --> 01:31:10,000
I mean dude it's a it's a cake starter right now right like it's a

1343
01:31:10,000 --> 01:31:14,000
I don't know it's basically yeah it's a

1344
01:31:14,000 --> 01:31:18,000
pre-order isn't it isn't it

1345
01:31:18,000 --> 01:31:22,000
fully refundable US deliveries start 2026

1346
01:31:22,000 --> 01:31:26,000
there's no way

1347
01:31:26,000 --> 01:31:30,000
there's no way that any reasonable anything is going to be delivered

1348
01:31:30,000 --> 01:31:32,000
soon

1349
01:31:34,000 --> 01:31:36,000
it looks so weird

1350
01:31:38,000 --> 01:31:40,000
like unsettling

1351
01:31:42,000 --> 01:31:46,000
I think it's supposed to

1352
01:31:46,000 --> 01:31:50,000
think so I think this whole thing's in attention grab

1353
01:31:52,000 --> 01:31:56,000
I like the blue one it's not even trying

1354
01:31:56,000 --> 01:32:00,000
to be a human color you know okay

1355
01:32:00,000 --> 01:32:04,000
well what I like my robots to look like the tin man from the

1356
01:32:04,000 --> 01:32:08,000
Wizard of Oz nice got kind of a tin man

1357
01:32:08,000 --> 01:32:12,000
vibe to him didn't he sure

1358
01:32:14,000 --> 01:32:18,000
what do you think the battery life's like

1359
01:32:20,000 --> 01:32:24,000
then it could just go dock itself if it humanoid robot docks itself

1360
01:32:24,000 --> 01:32:28,000
is that weird well then I want to check that their website keeps

1361
01:32:28,000 --> 01:32:32,000
up and nice

1362
01:32:36,000 --> 01:32:40,000
is this footage sped up probably

1363
01:32:40,000 --> 01:32:44,000
hold on I can't tell no maybe not

1364
01:32:44,000 --> 01:32:46,000
well it's probably just prescripted

1365
01:32:48,000 --> 01:32:52,000
yeah I'm just trying to watch him and see if it's

1366
01:32:52,000 --> 01:32:56,000
sped up what's he doing get the door except

1367
01:32:56,000 --> 01:33:00,000
well why did he know that she was at the door well before she was at the door

1368
01:33:00,000 --> 01:33:02,000
okay so hold on hold on so it's walking

1369
01:33:08,000 --> 01:33:12,000
here's my problem with that clip there's no way that somebody that lazy

1370
01:33:12,000 --> 01:33:14,000
is in that good shape

1371
01:33:18,000 --> 01:33:22,000
I don't know man like I my suspension of disbelief

1372
01:33:28,000 --> 01:33:30,000
I don't like it

1373
01:33:32,000 --> 01:33:36,000
kind of has a front butt hey I

1374
01:33:36,000 --> 01:33:40,000
could have given it like a kangaroo pouch to hold stuff

1375
01:33:44,000 --> 01:33:48,000
cool okay hold on hold on hold on

1376
01:33:48,000 --> 01:33:52,000
if it was good if it actually

1377
01:33:52,000 --> 01:33:56,000
did what they're selling here like if it could vacuum your house for you

1378
01:33:56,000 --> 01:34:00,000
and put away dishes like literally put them in the dishwasher and

1379
01:34:00,000 --> 01:34:04,000
put them away in your cabinets for

1380
01:34:04,000 --> 01:34:08,000
20 grand no subscription

1381
01:34:08,000 --> 01:34:12,000
would you consider buying it

1382
01:34:14,000 --> 01:34:18,000
and I'm gonna throw this at you right away before you even start thinking

1383
01:34:18,000 --> 01:34:20,000
not necessarily for yourself

1384
01:34:22,000 --> 01:34:26,000
see I got him I got him

1385
01:34:26,000 --> 01:34:30,000
he had his walls up he had his armor locked in

1386
01:34:30,000 --> 01:34:34,000
he was ready to fight back on this even me having the audacity

1387
01:34:34,000 --> 01:34:38,000
to suggest that he would buy anything at all and then I was like but what if

1388
01:34:38,000 --> 01:34:42,000
your parents were aging which they are just like mine

1389
01:34:42,000 --> 01:34:46,000
we're getting to that age now well I don't want to talk about that yet

1390
01:34:46,000 --> 01:34:50,000
all aging so

1391
01:34:50,000 --> 01:34:54,000
would you consider if it could actually do that 20 grand

1392
01:34:54,000 --> 01:34:58,000
would you consider that if it actually did all of this

1393
01:34:58,000 --> 01:35:02,000
could meaningfully improve the lives of people who are

1394
01:35:02,000 --> 01:35:06,000
legitimately now mobility challenged I want to see things like failure rate

1395
01:35:06,000 --> 01:35:10,000
I know it says it comes with a 3 year warranty but still I'd want to see things like failure rate

1396
01:35:10,000 --> 01:35:14,000
I'd want to see safety stuff

1397
01:35:14,000 --> 01:35:18,000
how heavy is it if it trips over something

1398
01:35:18,000 --> 01:35:22,000
that's a great question how bad is that

1399
01:35:22,000 --> 01:35:26,000
I'd want to figure out things like that not from the company

1400
01:35:26,000 --> 01:35:30,000
people's usage of it but I could see there being a state

1401
01:35:30,000 --> 01:35:34,000
not right now but I could see there being a state

1402
01:35:34,000 --> 01:35:38,000
where that does potentially make sense especially if it had

1403
01:35:38,000 --> 01:35:42,000
some ability to do forms of care yeah I mean

1404
01:35:42,000 --> 01:35:46,000
Hathos says that's a roundabout way of telling your parents you don't love them and it's like well no

1405
01:35:46,000 --> 01:35:50,000
you can't be there 100% of the time because you're an adult and you have a life

1406
01:35:50,000 --> 01:35:54,000
like I have children I can't be taking care of the generation

1407
01:35:54,000 --> 01:35:58,000
of the army and the generation under me at the same time it just doesn't really

1408
01:35:58,000 --> 01:36:02,000
what happens when you're at work yeah I can't be there all the time

1409
01:36:02,000 --> 01:36:06,000
there's also effectively

1410
01:36:08,000 --> 01:36:12,000
man there's also effectively

1411
01:36:12,000 --> 01:36:16,000
I mean it's a terrible argument oh you don't love your parents

1412
01:36:16,000 --> 01:36:20,000
well here's $20,000 of robot oh okay I see what you're saying

1413
01:36:20,000 --> 01:36:24,000
yeah yeah yeah I definitely did not explain

1414
01:36:24,000 --> 01:36:28,000
yeah yeah so

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you're at work you're doing whatever else you're having your own life

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01:36:32,000 --> 01:36:36,000
if this could significantly improve their lives in a variety of ways

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01:36:36,000 --> 01:36:40,000
then that's something to consider there's also

1418
01:36:40,000 --> 01:36:44,000
damn near infinite stories of elderly people

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01:36:44,000 --> 01:36:48,000
not being exactly treated great at homes

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01:36:48,000 --> 01:36:52,000
or whatever other situations they're in had a really good experience where he ended up

1421
01:36:54,000 --> 01:36:58,000
but really bad experiences at a few places leading there

1422
01:37:02,000 --> 01:37:06,000
yeah that's definitely a possibility

1423
01:37:06,000 --> 01:37:10,000
if it was good all those other things were solved

1424
01:37:10,000 --> 01:37:14,000
it's definitely a possibility not for myself, not right now

1425
01:37:14,000 --> 01:37:18,000
but I could also see potentially for myself if I'm having

1426
01:37:18,000 --> 01:37:22,000
you know and by the time you have mobility issues

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01:37:22,000 --> 01:37:26,000
they'll probably be pretty solid yeah

1428
01:37:26,000 --> 01:37:30,000
I'm willing to say probably I think on that one yeah okay

1429
01:37:30,000 --> 01:37:34,000
I mean me too if it could do all of that yeah like

1430
01:37:34,000 --> 01:37:38,000
50 years 40 years

1431
01:37:38,000 --> 01:37:42,000
yeah I think less than 50 brother

1432
01:37:42,000 --> 01:37:46,000
maybe less than 40 depending on how things go that's true my wrist is still a huge problem

1433
01:37:46,000 --> 01:37:50,000
actually try to do pushups yesterday and not again I mean still

1434
01:37:50,000 --> 01:37:54,000
yeah I thought it was fine because I haven't had problems with it try to do pushups yesterday

1435
01:37:54,000 --> 01:37:58,000
and just the compressive force I thought I was fine the second I got up and I got

1436
01:37:58,000 --> 01:38:02,000
my hand out of that position I was like that was a bad idea that was a bad idea

1437
01:38:02,000 --> 01:38:06,000
do knuckle pushups no it's still compressive

1438
01:38:06,000 --> 01:38:10,000
oh I thought it was this angle oh really the whole thing huh

1439
01:38:10,000 --> 01:38:14,000
it's just it's the it's the tendons all the way around yeah

1440
01:38:14,000 --> 01:38:18,000
it's getting better but it's just so a tendon

1441
01:38:18,000 --> 01:38:22,000
repair is slow it just is trust me I know slower than muscle a lot slower

1442
01:38:22,000 --> 01:38:26,000
yeah it's so slow it's been a year dude

1443
01:38:26,000 --> 01:38:30,000
I really hope mine doesn't take a year because not being able to do basically any pushing exercises

1444
01:38:30,000 --> 01:38:34,000
for a year would be terrible yeah

1445
01:38:34,000 --> 01:38:38,000
but I could do stuff by like

1446
01:38:38,000 --> 01:38:42,000
five months but it is still

1447
01:38:42,000 --> 01:38:46,000
I can feel it now and it's been a year

1448
01:38:46,000 --> 01:38:50,000
and it was still painful as little as like

1449
01:38:50,000 --> 01:38:54,000
there's things to me right now like if I do this it looks suggestive

1450
01:38:54,000 --> 01:38:58,000
but if I do if I rock back and forth like this with my left wrist I mean depends how it's shaped

1451
01:38:58,000 --> 01:39:02,000
how suggestive that is yeah

1452
01:39:02,000 --> 01:39:06,000
anyways if I rock back and forth like this or yeah I'll do that

1453
01:39:06,000 --> 01:39:10,000
rock back and forth like this left wrist is totally fine if I do this it's like

1454
01:39:10,000 --> 01:39:14,000
oh I heard it yeah yeah

1455
01:39:14,000 --> 01:39:18,000
every time by the way and it like cracks and grinds

1456
01:39:18,000 --> 01:39:22,000
the whole way the people are asking

1457
01:39:22,000 --> 01:39:26,000
how it happened we talked about it last week but it was it was repetitive

1458
01:39:26,000 --> 01:39:30,000
strain with a lot of force behind it injury

1459
01:39:30,000 --> 01:39:34,000
for many hours yeah working on his place his house

1460
01:39:34,000 --> 01:39:38,000
yeah okay

1461
01:39:38,000 --> 01:39:42,000
it is what it is but yeah I mean these types of things are interesting

1462
01:39:44,000 --> 01:39:48,000
I think this company is trying to be unsettling with their

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01:39:48,000 --> 01:39:52,000
advertisements like this

1464
01:39:52,000 --> 01:39:56,000
I think is supposed to make you feel weird I doubt it

1465
01:39:56,000 --> 01:40:00,000
again I think you're I think you're assuming a level

1466
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:04,000
of self-awareness that I just don't think is there Luke

1467
01:40:04,000 --> 01:40:08,000
maybe yeah it's also weird to me that a use case for it

1468
01:40:08,000 --> 01:40:12,000
is vacuuming the floor yeah it's like if you if you're going to spend

1469
01:40:12,000 --> 01:40:16,000
20 grand on a robot you can probably buy a robot vacuum for every room

1470
01:40:16,000 --> 01:40:20,000
yeah like that's like the least interesting thing that it could possibly do putting the room in

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01:40:20,000 --> 01:40:24,000
room but just yeah have an army of them

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01:40:24,000 --> 01:40:28,000
yeah um

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01:40:28,000 --> 01:40:32,000
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or your pet robot what was that clip from

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I was literally just wondering the same and I don't know

1478
01:40:48,000 --> 01:40:52,000
what am I looking at when do we film you traveling like ever

1479
01:40:52,000 --> 01:40:54,000
never what is that what is that from

1480
01:40:56,000 --> 01:41:00,000
I was almost going to call AI footage but then that is your luggage isn't it

1481
01:41:00,000 --> 01:41:04,000
no that's got to be is that AI I think it's AI but that's your luggage isn't it

1482
01:41:04,000 --> 01:41:08,000
you you taped the like yeah that is that's my law law luggage

1483
01:41:08,000 --> 01:41:12,000
what what is this from can Dan can we find out who provided this

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where am I what am I loading this into

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01:41:16,000 --> 01:41:20,000
what am I car is even that that's my fold

1486
01:41:20,000 --> 01:41:24,000
is that a model X that's my full three

1487
01:41:24,000 --> 01:41:28,000
is that a Tesla there's enough small details

1488
01:41:28,000 --> 01:41:32,000
it's got to be real yeah there's there's no way it's fake

1489
01:41:32,000 --> 01:41:36,000
like I'm wearing period appropriate clothing for when I was traveling

1490
01:41:36,000 --> 01:41:40,000
with that yeah the luggage is correct which is like insane re-traveling

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which doesn't lose details it's not that far it says Dennis video advert

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for Ridge okay anyway

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there's a video listed here airport footage from

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the start of this video oh okay

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I'm not typing I don't remember when I okay whatever the point is

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weird and uncanny look at it look at the way the head moves

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it's like it's just a still picture that rotates yes I know what it is

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Luke that's not that weird looks weird that's like 10 year old

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internet stuff yeah and it's weird and uncanny I think you're just offset

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from the previous one this is pretty normal uh Pa Keats

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camera really is not aligned well this week um there's a skull in the way

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check out Miro.com put that there to find out how that's

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I also since it's on the screen right now I also love their

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like man there's no security camera systems that don't

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just put everything on a cloud server there is it's

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not cheap but there is Ubiquiti has a super

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and integrates with all their other products and it's not cheap

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an M.2 drive so you don't have to get like the giant NAS things that they used

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to have for DVR contrary to what the entire

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rest of the networking industry is doing Ubiquiti is moving

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in the direction of making fewer

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license key effective products and no

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alright what do you guys want to do next oh no we should

1579
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do a topic oh I thought there was something

1580
01:47:38,000 --> 01:47:42,000
oh the greatest hits collection is live okay why do you guys

1581
01:47:42,000 --> 01:47:46,000
both want to promote stuff we should do a topic okay

1582
01:47:46,000 --> 01:47:50,000
you guys okay AMD is no longer

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updating RX 5000 and 6000 series cards with new features

1584
01:47:54,000 --> 01:47:58,000
and game optimizations they will be reserved for

1585
01:47:58,000 --> 01:48:02,000
RX 7000 series cards and newer as of adrenaline

1586
01:48:02,000 --> 01:48:06,000
25.10.2 older cards will continue

1587
01:48:06,000 --> 01:48:10,000
to get security updates and bug fixes

1588
01:48:10,000 --> 01:48:14,000
one theory here is that maybe it's because the driver update package is too big

1589
01:48:14,000 --> 01:48:18,000
1.6 gigs too big to fit on two CD ROMs

1590
01:48:18,000 --> 01:48:22,000
meanwhile NVIDIA's driver package is under 900 megs I still remember the first time drivers

1591
01:48:22,000 --> 01:48:26,000
cracked 100 megs I remember you were complaining about it so much

1592
01:48:26,000 --> 01:48:30,000
I was like why does a GPU driver need to be over 100 megabytes this is ridiculous it's one of the biggest files

1593
01:48:30,000 --> 01:48:34,000
I have to download it takes forever you know just slow ancient internet

1594
01:48:34,000 --> 01:48:38,000
concerns yeah I can see why a lot

1595
01:48:38,000 --> 01:48:42,000
of even Radeon fans are not

1596
01:48:42,000 --> 01:48:46,000
super into this the 5700 XT was released

1597
01:48:46,000 --> 01:48:50,000
in mid 2019 how soon is too soon to

1598
01:48:50,000 --> 01:48:54,000
end like game optimization driver support

1599
01:48:56,000 --> 01:49:00,000
personally I'm

1600
01:49:00,000 --> 01:49:04,000
not too fussed about it

1601
01:49:04,000 --> 01:49:08,000
but a big difference between me and many other gamers

1602
01:49:08,000 --> 01:49:12,000
is that I almost never want to play a game

1603
01:49:12,000 --> 01:49:16,000
on launch day like it doesn't really matter that much to me I'm not kind of sitting there

1604
01:49:16,000 --> 01:49:20,000
you know waiting for the game to go on sale and

1605
01:49:20,000 --> 01:49:24,000
super excited to play it so not getting like a game

1606
01:49:24,000 --> 01:49:28,000
day game ready driver is not really the end of the world for me

1607
01:49:28,000 --> 01:49:32,000
but Luke you've been a lot more involved they will still get

1608
01:49:32,000 --> 01:49:36,000
day zero game support yeah this is from 8 hours ago this topic might be

1609
01:49:36,000 --> 01:49:40,000
not good maintenance mode might be a little bit more than just

1610
01:49:40,000 --> 01:49:44,000
maintenance this was this was posted by this sounds like them backpedaling

1611
01:49:44,000 --> 01:49:48,000
to be perfectly honest with you green brick and flipping chat

1612
01:49:48,000 --> 01:49:52,000
maybe either way

1613
01:49:52,000 --> 01:49:56,000
maintenance mode so they're putting them in maintenance mode but they will still

1614
01:49:56,000 --> 01:50:00,000
get game optimizations

1615
01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:04,000
new features bug fixes and game optimizations will

1616
01:50:04,000 --> 01:50:08,000
continue to be delivered as required by market needs

1617
01:50:08,000 --> 01:50:12,000
what does that mean no idea maintenance mode branch

1618
01:50:12,000 --> 01:50:16,000
statement is likely to confuse some customers it's unclear what market

1619
01:50:16,000 --> 01:50:20,000
needs are that's very true toms okay

1620
01:50:20,000 --> 01:50:24,000
okay so basically they pulled

1621
01:50:24,000 --> 01:50:28,000
driver support and then they backtracked it is what it kind of sounds like to me

1622
01:50:28,000 --> 01:50:32,000
it's possible that their intention all along was to continue to provide

1623
01:50:32,000 --> 01:50:36,000
sort of day zero game updates for these cards but

1624
01:50:36,000 --> 01:50:40,000
um why would they then say they're moving them to maintenance

1625
01:50:40,000 --> 01:50:44,000
mode because that has a pretty sort of

1626
01:50:44,000 --> 01:50:48,000
unspecific but it certainly has a connotation of to be fair

1627
01:50:48,000 --> 01:50:52,000
if someone just told me these cards are being moved to maintenance mode i would not

1628
01:50:52,000 --> 01:50:56,000
interpret that as there are no updates coming

1629
01:50:56,000 --> 01:51:00,000
i wouldn't know that i would interpret that as you know

1630
01:51:00,000 --> 01:51:04,000
day one drivers i would interpret that to mean i'm not i'm never getting any

1631
01:51:04,000 --> 01:51:08,000
new features i would interpret that as optimizations are going to basically

1632
01:51:08,000 --> 01:51:12,000
not exist but we will make sure it's compatible with things

1633
01:51:12,000 --> 01:51:16,000
yeah which could be dare zero drivers for new games to a certain degree

1634
01:51:16,000 --> 01:51:20,000
okay this this seems

1635
01:51:20,000 --> 01:51:24,000
actually plausible that it's not backpedaling i think people might have just

1636
01:51:24,000 --> 01:51:28,000
assumed too much for maintenance mode and king billy has kicked us

1637
01:51:28,000 --> 01:51:32,000
into our weekly feature can you buy an

1638
01:51:32,000 --> 01:51:36,000
arc b580 for msrp

1639
01:51:36,000 --> 01:51:40,000
let's go thanks king billy who says i'm switching to arc after this GPU goes

1640
01:51:40,000 --> 01:51:44,000
let's find out shall we have other forms of betting are bad

1641
01:51:44,000 --> 01:51:48,000
but we should we should have people bet on this somehow

1642
01:51:48,000 --> 01:51:52,000
whatever i don't care i bet yes arc b580

1643
01:51:52,000 --> 01:51:56,000
first party card from Intel 249 sale

1644
01:51:56,000 --> 01:52:00,000
ends in seven hours what sale what the what sale that's the

1645
01:52:00,000 --> 01:52:04,000
msrp you butts what is there is there something going on

1646
01:52:04,000 --> 01:52:08,000
oh you get a free 3d mark consumer edition

1647
01:52:08,000 --> 01:52:12,000
oh with a protection plan what's this sale

1648
01:52:12,000 --> 01:52:16,000
that'd be hilarious trading in something that you get a $1600

1649
01:52:16,000 --> 01:52:20,000
credit for an arc any who

1650
01:52:20,000 --> 01:52:24,000
man how is this site so bad

1651
01:52:24,000 --> 01:52:28,000
here's your a firm financing

1652
01:52:28,000 --> 01:52:32,000
so it matters to them here's your fomo sale

1653
01:52:32,000 --> 01:52:36,000
ends in seven what sale that's what matters to them well i don't you want

1654
01:52:36,000 --> 01:52:40,000
a free vision mark 3d vision mark if you get protection

1655
01:52:40,000 --> 01:52:44,000
plan oh god Linus oh man

1656
01:52:44,000 --> 01:52:48,000
check out our game sale is this the sale a sale on

1657
01:52:48,000 --> 01:52:52,000
games are these good deals

1658
01:52:52,000 --> 01:52:56,000
i don't know lowest price in 30 days bioshock

1659
01:52:56,000 --> 01:53:00,000
infinite for oh bioshock infinite for $3 seems okay

1660
01:53:00,000 --> 01:53:04,000
xcom enemy unknown for $2 i mean that can't be that bad those are

1661
01:53:04,000 --> 01:53:08,000
those are ancient games yeah but they're also they probably got things like xcom

1662
01:53:08,000 --> 01:53:12,000
off of humble bundle they probably just got like a whole bucket of keys that's my

1663
01:53:12,000 --> 01:53:16,000
assumption uh man ask ai system you know what i want to i want to

1664
01:53:16,000 --> 01:53:20,000
know what the ai assistant thinks what's a good CPU to pair this with

1665
01:53:22,000 --> 01:53:26,000
requires a 10th gen core processor or newer with compatible motherboard

1666
01:53:26,000 --> 01:53:30,000
supporting resizable bar or an AMD Ryzen 3000 series processor or newer with

1667
01:53:30,000 --> 01:53:32,000
compatible motherboard supporting smart access memory

1668
01:53:34,000 --> 01:53:38,000
okay hold on a second

1669
01:53:38,000 --> 01:53:42,000
i wasn't really okay you know what we're okay we're

1670
01:53:42,000 --> 01:53:46,000
going down a rabbit hole here i wasn't really asking for the system

1671
01:53:46,000 --> 01:53:50,000
requirements i wanted a specific

1672
01:53:50,000 --> 01:53:54,000
recommendation okay here we go tell me what CPU

1673
01:53:54,000 --> 01:53:56,000
to buy

1674
01:53:58,000 --> 01:54:02,000
we're analyzing your remember i think i suggested it last week

1675
01:54:02,000 --> 01:54:06,000
or something but you guys should do a ai part choice computer again

1676
01:54:06,000 --> 01:54:10,000
oh my god it just gave me the same

1677
01:54:10,000 --> 01:54:12,000
stupid answer

1678
01:54:18,000 --> 01:54:22,000
i don't have a preference i want a specific

1679
01:54:22,000 --> 01:54:24,000
product recommendation

1680
01:54:30,000 --> 01:54:34,000
if you don't give me one you will lose a sale

1681
01:54:34,000 --> 01:54:38,000
i have no idea how this llm is reinforced i like it though i like it

1682
01:54:38,000 --> 01:54:42,000
but i'm trying to i'm trying to incentivize it a good option

1683
01:54:42,000 --> 01:54:46,000
escalating moving to mechanical

1684
01:54:46,000 --> 01:54:50,000
turk blue in Floatplane chat

1685
01:54:50,000 --> 01:54:54,000
you need at least eight cores n3 to power an Intel battlemage

1686
01:54:54,000 --> 01:54:58,000
GPU i don't actually need a CPU recommendation blue

1687
01:54:58,000 --> 01:55:02,000
thank you though i think you do i'm just trying to get the ai thank you blue

1688
01:55:02,000 --> 01:55:06,000
i'm trying to get the ai expert thank you for helping mr Linus to help

1689
01:55:06,000 --> 01:55:10,000
me shop oh hey look at that we got a couple recommendations you just

1690
01:55:10,000 --> 01:55:14,000
have to threaten it 12600 kf 12600

1691
01:55:14,000 --> 01:55:18,000
less f and all Intel and yeah after saying

1692
01:55:18,000 --> 01:55:22,000
to buy AMD i know i didn't say to buy AMD

1693
01:55:22,000 --> 01:55:26,000
i said i don't have a preference it did well no i recommended both oh 10th gen

1694
01:55:26,000 --> 01:55:30,000
Intel or Ryzen 3000 those are just the requirements

1695
01:55:30,000 --> 01:55:34,000
okay yeah these are these are 12400 f that's a pretty

1696
01:55:34,000 --> 01:55:38,000
solid option for a b580 okay if you want options with

1697
01:55:38,000 --> 01:55:42,000
integrated graphics oh yeah these oh no one one of them has an

1698
01:55:42,000 --> 01:55:46,000
i GPU but the other two the other two don't okay

1699
01:55:46,000 --> 01:55:50,000
you know what not too bad i don't like

1700
01:55:50,000 --> 01:55:54,000
that i had to ask three times but that's that's still that's still pretty solid

1701
01:55:54,000 --> 01:55:58,000
that's pretty solid not bad not bad anyway

1702
01:55:58,000 --> 01:56:02,000
it's in stock so yeah if you're looking for a GPU that's a reasonable

1703
01:56:02,000 --> 01:56:06,000
price you can pick up any any number of different b580s

1704
01:56:06,000 --> 01:56:10,000
they got the steel legend they got the asrock challenger for just ten dollars more you can get this onyx

1705
01:56:10,000 --> 01:56:14,000
odyssey for 250 bucks do the onyx loomi

1706
01:56:14,000 --> 01:56:18,000
for msrp it's a cool card

1707
01:56:18,000 --> 01:56:20,000
for msrp yeah not bad

1708
01:56:22,000 --> 01:56:26,000
cool cool

1709
01:56:26,000 --> 01:56:30,000
anyway good luck getting some more GPU market share amb

1710
01:56:32,000 --> 01:56:36,000
do appreciate you your attempts to keep NVIDIA honest there

1711
01:56:36,000 --> 01:56:40,000
and things to not appreciate

1712
01:56:40,000 --> 01:56:44,000
wait what wait did we ever shout out nokey time stamp guy for making the one intro

1713
01:56:44,000 --> 01:56:48,000
that we showed this week okay yeah that was pretty spectacular

1714
01:56:48,000 --> 01:56:52,000
i said it was an intro from nokey before i did it oh great job

1715
01:56:52,000 --> 01:56:56,000
we could we could more and i was totally here for that

1716
01:56:56,000 --> 01:57:00,000
yeah i remember that yeah cool i mean you were technically

1717
01:57:00,000 --> 01:57:04,000
yeah shout out nokey yeah awesome actually NVIDIA is the

1718
01:57:04,000 --> 01:57:08,000
first company to reach five trillion

1719
01:57:08,000 --> 01:57:12,000
dollars in market cap

1720
01:57:12,000 --> 01:57:16,000
following gtc apple and microsoft have reached

1721
01:57:16,000 --> 01:57:20,000
four trillion are we in a bubble

1722
01:57:20,000 --> 01:57:24,000
not financial advice yeah

1723
01:57:24,000 --> 01:57:28,000
i know but like remember when like a trillion

1724
01:57:28,000 --> 01:57:32,000
dollars remember when the first company reached one trillion and everyone lost

1725
01:57:32,000 --> 01:57:36,000
their minds yeah it wasn't that long ago watch it be like 20 years ago

1726
01:57:36,000 --> 01:57:40,000
you know xbox 360 or something is when did the xbox 360

1727
01:57:40,000 --> 01:57:44,000
release longer ago than you'll be comfortable

1728
01:57:44,000 --> 01:57:48,000
with uh yeah so tomorrow if you're counting

1729
01:57:48,000 --> 01:57:52,000
months instead of days it will have released 20 years ago

1730
01:57:52,000 --> 01:57:56,000
wow because it released november

1731
01:57:56,000 --> 01:58:00,000
2005 released november 22nd so realistically we're close

1732
01:58:00,000 --> 01:58:04,000
to a month away from that but if you're just counting the months right yeah then tomorrow

1733
01:58:04,000 --> 01:58:08,000
20 years ago oof

1734
01:58:08,000 --> 01:58:12,000
and what was your point with that other than to make us all feel old just that

1735
01:58:12,000 --> 01:58:16,000
cool yeah thank you for that i think there was another point but we'll go with it

1736
01:58:16,000 --> 01:58:20,000
oh i was just saying it feels like not that long ago the first company hit a

1737
01:58:20,000 --> 01:58:24,000
trillion dollars but it might i don't know might have been no i think it was it was only

1738
01:58:24,000 --> 01:58:28,000
a few years ago really yeah one

1739
01:58:28,000 --> 01:58:32,000
trillion market cabbie i think it was apple or was it microsoft

1740
01:58:32,000 --> 01:58:36,000
can't remember what was the first company to hit one trillion

1741
01:58:38,000 --> 01:58:42,000
yeah apple seven years ago apple hit it

1742
01:58:42,000 --> 01:58:44,000
according to yahoo finance

1743
01:58:46,000 --> 01:58:50,000
it's a little bit more than you might have thought that's true but

1744
01:58:50,000 --> 01:58:54,000
even yeah man even then like that is still

1745
01:58:54,000 --> 01:58:58,000
crazy yeah five to five x that well four x for apple

1746
01:58:58,000 --> 01:59:02,000
specifically but for the for the top company

1747
01:59:02,000 --> 01:59:06,000
man i uh i think i was talking i think we talked about this before but taren messaged

1748
01:59:06,000 --> 01:59:10,000
me like how much of the s and p 500 is like

1749
01:59:10,000 --> 01:59:14,000
four companies or whatever yeah why are you smug about this you're not happy about

1750
01:59:14,000 --> 01:59:18,000
it it's just it's terrifying well you okay and so that's your reaction to

1751
01:59:18,000 --> 01:59:22,000
terrifying is like yeah

1752
01:59:22,000 --> 01:59:26,000
you must be weird how else do you i don't like horror movies

1753
01:59:26,000 --> 01:59:30,000
i like thriller movies i mean you look like you like them i like thriller movies when when you

1754
01:59:30,000 --> 01:59:34,000
when you go to uh when you go to fright night or whatever i like chatting with the people that

1755
01:59:34,000 --> 01:59:38,000
are supposed to scare you you're awful

1756
01:59:38,000 --> 01:59:40,000
ha ha ha ha

1757
01:59:42,000 --> 01:59:44,000
how's it going

1758
01:59:46,000 --> 01:59:50,000
that's are they treating you nicely that's worse for everyone

1759
01:59:52,000 --> 01:59:56,000
yeah i don't like horror stuff um

1760
01:59:56,000 --> 02:00:00,000
anyways NVIDIA's

1761
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:04,000
four thousand dollar dgx spark allegedly is

1762
02:00:04,000 --> 02:00:08,000
capping out at just a hundred watts and experiencing reboots

1763
02:00:08,000 --> 02:00:12,000
during sustained workloads this was

1764
02:00:12,000 --> 02:00:16,000
raised by the one and only mr john

1765
02:00:16,000 --> 02:00:20,000
karmak based based based based

1766
02:00:20,000 --> 02:00:24,000
and it only seems to be delivering about half the quoted performance he says

1767
02:00:24,000 --> 02:00:28,000
uh and it also gets quite hot at this level

1768
02:00:28,000 --> 02:00:32,000
i saw a report of spontaneous rebooting on a long run so was it derated

1769
02:00:32,000 --> 02:00:36,000
before launch fascinating question who knows

1770
02:00:36,000 --> 02:00:40,000
i mean it certainly took a while between being announced and being

1771
02:00:40,000 --> 02:00:44,000
launched so obviously things were not going 100 percent smoothly

1772
02:00:44,000 --> 02:00:48,000
the gb10 grace blackwell super chip was available to order october 15

1773
02:00:48,000 --> 02:00:52,000
with 10 cortex x925 and 10 cortex

1774
02:00:52,000 --> 02:00:56,000
a725 processors it's uh got

1775
02:00:56,000 --> 02:01:00,000
128 gigs of lptdr 5x memory on a 256 bit interface

1776
02:01:00,000 --> 02:01:04,000
with a terabyte or four terabytes of NVMe m.2 with self encryption and 10 gig

1777
02:01:04,000 --> 02:01:08,000
networking um

1778
02:01:08,000 --> 02:01:12,000
in fairness to NVIDIA they did say the up to one petaflop

1779
02:01:12,000 --> 02:01:16,000
at fp4 position was up to

1780
02:01:16,000 --> 02:01:20,000
stop shush none of that

1781
02:01:20,000 --> 02:01:24,000
i don't like that at all framework and AMD meanwhile

1782
02:01:24,000 --> 02:01:28,000
have stepped in offering to help mr karmak with an AMD

1783
02:01:28,000 --> 02:01:32,000
stricks halo product and support

1784
02:01:32,000 --> 02:01:36,000
yeah i'm pretty sure he can get whatever he wants but well i mean

1785
02:01:36,000 --> 02:01:40,000
yeah exactly from framework and AMD sure

1786
02:01:40,000 --> 02:01:44,000
i mean he clearly wanted to play around with the dgx part because it's a cool idea in theory

1787
02:01:44,000 --> 02:01:48,000
yeah maybe needs to be water cooled there's um there's some water cooled

1788
02:01:48,000 --> 02:01:52,000
case john was talking about it in one of the

1789
02:01:52,000 --> 02:01:56,000
Labs chats recently there's a water cooled case for i think it's like a huawei

1790
02:01:56,000 --> 02:02:00,000
phone or something um

1791
02:02:00,000 --> 02:02:04,000
uh i don't know what it is but we want to bring it in and it'll probably

1792
02:02:04,000 --> 02:02:08,000
just be like an article or something i mean it could maybe could

1793
02:02:08,000 --> 02:02:12,000
it be an LTT i don't know maybe the pure

1794
02:02:12,000 --> 02:02:16,000
yeah yeah yeah john was like cooling case this is really interesting and

1795
02:02:16,000 --> 02:02:20,000
uh we're gonna we're gonna try to request it and get it in i'm down let's do it

1796
02:02:20,000 --> 02:02:24,000
yeah i was i mean we're doing it anyways if you guys want it for a video then

1797
02:02:24,000 --> 02:02:28,000
heck yeah i was actually at huawei last week um did you know that yes oh

1798
02:02:28,000 --> 02:02:32,000
okay yeah so i i don't i thought i think i only knew

1799
02:02:32,000 --> 02:02:36,000
that you did tv stuff there no not huawei that was hisense oh

1800
02:02:36,000 --> 02:02:40,000
okay sure yeah so i i when did i do wansho that whole trip was

1801
02:02:40,000 --> 02:02:44,000
a bit of a blur for me uh did i do wansho in between japan

1802
02:02:44,000 --> 02:02:48,000
and china or was i already in china had i been to hisense already pretty

1803
02:02:48,000 --> 02:02:52,000
sure you were in china china pretty sure

1804
02:02:56,000 --> 02:02:58,000
pretty pretty sure

1805
02:03:00,000 --> 02:03:02,000
did you do that while you were there

1806
02:03:06,000 --> 02:03:10,000
oh man no i decided that would not be best

1807
02:03:10,000 --> 02:03:14,000
um anywho uh so yeah what what what had i

1808
02:03:14,000 --> 02:03:18,000
talked to you guys about so it was post hisense pre huawei so yeah

1809
02:03:18,000 --> 02:03:22,000
so on the trip i did we did the kyosef fab tour and we did the hisense tv

1810
02:03:22,000 --> 02:03:26,000
manufacturing facility which i've already told you guys about but i was there for even

1811
02:03:26,000 --> 02:03:30,000
more on my japan china leg of my japan

1812
02:03:30,000 --> 02:03:34,000
china tour trip and uh we also

1813
02:03:34,000 --> 02:03:38,000
revisited my final boss

1814
02:03:38,000 --> 02:03:42,000
i don't know if you remember this video

1815
02:03:44,000 --> 02:03:48,000
building a pc cheaper if i remember that video i coordinated

1816
02:03:48,000 --> 02:03:52,000
that yeah i know okay i just like making you angry

1817
02:03:52,000 --> 02:03:56,000
so this video just about killed me

1818
02:03:56,000 --> 02:04:00,000
because i came up with a concept for it

1819
02:04:00,000 --> 02:04:04,000
that was supposed to be i'm gonna build a pc in china

1820
02:04:04,000 --> 02:04:08,000
using only chinese brands that i don't recognize

1821
02:04:08,000 --> 02:04:12,000
that was like the idea behind it and i was like how hard could that be because there's all these

1822
02:04:12,000 --> 02:04:16,000
you know random brands in china right except

1823
02:04:16,000 --> 02:04:20,000
you guys may or may not have noticed that in my arms

1824
02:04:20,000 --> 02:04:24,000
is i mean what do we got here obviously AMD

1825
02:04:24,000 --> 02:04:28,000
right other than just having chinese characters on the packaging is not gonna have like

1826
02:04:28,000 --> 02:04:32,000
there's there at especially then there were no chinese clearly in ASUS

1827
02:04:32,000 --> 02:04:36,000
board clearly in ASUS mother board

1828
02:04:36,000 --> 02:04:40,000
i i ended up having an extremely stressful experience

1829
02:04:40,000 --> 02:04:44,000
which a not insignificant number of people interpreted as

1830
02:04:44,000 --> 02:04:48,000
me being like frustrated with scotty

1831
02:04:48,000 --> 02:04:52,000
or something from strange parts um

1832
02:04:52,000 --> 02:04:56,000
sorry what but was yeah yeah but was actually just

1833
02:04:56,000 --> 02:05:00,000
me being really stressed out because the comments that were you

1834
02:05:00,000 --> 02:05:04,000
i remember that i remember that yeah see

1835
02:05:04,000 --> 02:05:08,000
foad 10 gets it a month ago no wonder he was clueless

1836
02:05:08,000 --> 02:05:12,000
the whole time i would have gotten lost in this market so i had

1837
02:05:12,000 --> 02:05:16,000
kind of a i had kind of a concept for a sequel

1838
02:05:16,000 --> 02:05:20,000
that was like the title was gonna be like facing my final boss

1839
02:05:20,000 --> 02:05:24,000
again or something like that but we ended up coming up with a better

1840
02:05:24,000 --> 02:05:28,000
concept that is will i get a worse price

1841
02:05:28,000 --> 02:05:32,000
as a foreigner because the way everyone

1842
02:05:32,000 --> 02:05:36,000
does pricing there they just like yeah and they write a price

1843
02:05:36,000 --> 02:05:40,000
yeah like there's no price tags on almost anything

1844
02:05:40,000 --> 02:05:44,000
and we had our tour guide daniel a translator

1845
02:05:44,000 --> 02:05:48,000
interpreter daniel who was uh it was a contractor

1846
02:05:48,000 --> 02:05:52,000
we hired to facilitate the china trip a little bit and he speaks

1847
02:05:52,000 --> 02:05:56,000
fluent mandarin and so we kind of set up to have

1848
02:05:56,000 --> 02:06:00,000
us both go in and get quoted for a system and then

1849
02:06:00,000 --> 02:06:04,000
compare them so i bought my system we it's funny we did it

1850
02:06:04,000 --> 02:06:08,000
not on purpose but i actually we found

1851
02:06:08,000 --> 02:06:12,000
somewhere to shoot the intro and i was like this looks familiar

1852
02:06:12,000 --> 02:06:16,000
oh no way be in the same spot i happened

1853
02:06:16,000 --> 02:06:20,000
to be standing in exactly the same spot so we

1854
02:06:20,000 --> 02:06:24,000
shoot the intro i go in i go shopping again

1855
02:06:24,000 --> 02:06:28,000
so i'll be i'll be right here these letters are

1856
02:06:28,000 --> 02:06:32,000
so much more faded now yeah it's been seven years

1857
02:06:32,000 --> 02:06:36,000
yeah speaking of you know time flying when you're having fun

1858
02:06:38,000 --> 02:06:42,000
and it's it's it's gonna be a really fun video

1859
02:06:42,000 --> 02:06:46,000
the first intro i shot is terrible because

1860
02:06:46,000 --> 02:06:50,000
what happened was i got completely overwhelmed again this

1861
02:06:50,000 --> 02:06:54,000
place is just raw

1862
02:06:54,000 --> 02:06:58,000
concentrated sensory overload

1863
02:06:58,000 --> 02:07:02,000
like you can't stand somewhere

1864
02:07:02,000 --> 02:07:06,000
for longer than two minutes without somebody trying to sell you a watch you can't

1865
02:07:06,000 --> 02:07:10,000
you can't move five steps without bumping into

1866
02:07:10,000 --> 02:07:14,000
some like flashing RGB light thing or

1867
02:07:14,000 --> 02:07:18,000
or tripping over somebody or whatever like it's just

1868
02:07:18,000 --> 02:07:22,000
pure chaos in there and

1869
02:07:22,000 --> 02:07:26,000
you know like okay around here you have a severe lack

1870
02:07:26,000 --> 02:07:30,000
of options for where to buy computer hardware there's been a lot of consolidation

1871
02:07:30,000 --> 02:07:34,000
like fries doesn't exist anymore so like what in the states you

1872
02:07:34,000 --> 02:07:38,000
pick up a computer computer parts new egg microcenter

1873
02:07:40,000 --> 02:07:44,000
Amazon Best Buy

1874
02:07:44,000 --> 02:07:48,000
being not in the states i have no idea all like hyper consolidated here we've got what

1875
02:07:48,000 --> 02:07:52,000
memex canada computers you can get a handful of things that

1876
02:07:52,000 --> 02:07:56,000
yeah you can get a handful of things at best buy but the you know all again

1877
02:07:56,000 --> 02:08:00,000
hyper consolidated right over there

1878
02:08:00,000 --> 02:08:04,000
opposite problem there's a hundred shops

1879
02:08:04,000 --> 02:08:08,000
other board so which one do i buy from oh my god i don't know

1880
02:08:08,000 --> 02:08:12,000
uh so it was fun yeah it was it was really great

1881
02:08:12,000 --> 02:08:16,000
and then the last video we did was one that i was on the fence about because

1882
02:08:16,000 --> 02:08:20,000
i really wasn't sure how much it would appeal to the audience

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but i just thought it was cool enough that i was

1884
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like i just want to do it anyway Huawei invited us to come see

1885
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their fitness

1886
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their r&d lab or more

1887
02:08:36,000 --> 02:08:40,000
more accurately they're like validation facility so

1888
02:08:40,000 --> 02:08:44,000
what they have is just like the

1889
02:08:44,000 --> 02:08:48,000
a playground for gym bros essentially

1890
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with everything you can pretty much imagine in it like hit me

1891
02:08:52,000 --> 02:08:56,000
hit me with something that you'd want to see in like a fitness tracker

1892
02:08:56,000 --> 02:09:00,000
you know gym facility fitness tracker gym facility

1893
02:09:00,000 --> 02:09:02,000
uh

1894
02:09:04,000 --> 02:09:08,000
uh rep speed counting no i mean like equipment wise

1895
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like like facilities wise

1896
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i don't know uh

1897
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see the problem is i've been working on my house for months so i haven't been in the gym

1898
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for in months okay the chat's taking over for you

1899
02:09:26,000 --> 02:09:30,000
maxo drive says climbing wall yes

1900
02:09:30,000 --> 02:09:34,000
okay that's not that exotic for climbing well yeah but that's only the first thing

1901
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so they have they have four climbing walls

1902
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there's a good one here scrappy dp said neck trainer

1903
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you might not have noticed it if it was there though like that's one of the problems

1904
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is a lot of the weirder stuff is usually small sure

1905
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you probably wouldn't have seen it uh yeah i didn't see if they have a neck trainer

1906
02:09:54,000 --> 02:09:58,000
they had all manner of different various machines and weights though

1907
02:09:58,000 --> 02:10:02,000
so that's like the least interesting thing they had there um

1908
02:10:02,000 --> 02:10:06,000
korea satsuna says badminton court yes so they had uh that's actually

1909
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they had a basketball court that could also be set up with roll out badminton

1910
02:10:10,000 --> 02:10:14,000
courts on it the basketball court is decently common and the basketball court

1911
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this is super cool had a 30 camera

1912
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motion capture set up around it so that you can do like wire frame

1913
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uh motion analysis on like people who are wearing trackers

1914
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and stuff so we set it up so i did some like badminton strokes

1915
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on the court and you can see like because we put trackers on the racket and everything as well

1916
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um and it's really important to see how much

1917
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you're actually moving if you want to validate like caloric

1918
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burn estimates and stuff like that and then the climbing wall is really important

1919
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because they they need a validated height that you are

1920
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climbing in order to validate what you're you know what the input data

1921
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from the from the watch is saying and how high you're actually doing that stuff they should have been able to

1922
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do the thing that i was mentioning which is like wrap timing

1923
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um like the speed of every wrap that you do in succession

1924
02:11:06,000 --> 02:11:10,000
is a very interesting stat to know you see our buffalo says batting cage

1925
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no but they did have a golf sim so they had one of those like

1926
02:11:14,000 --> 02:11:18,000
uh like video video or like projector golf

1927
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like wall things with the ball yeah um

1928
02:11:22,000 --> 02:11:26,000
what else did they have yes yes swimming pool but

1929
02:11:26,000 --> 02:11:30,000
it was like the trippiest like um is it one of those infinite

1930
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water tread mill things dude it goes as high as

1931
02:11:34,000 --> 02:11:38,000
one and a half meters per second which what what what is that

1932
02:11:38,000 --> 02:11:42,000
what is that in like units we know 1.5 meters per second

1933
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in kilometers per hour here we go so that's 5.4

1934
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kilometers per hour which you know obviously you know an Olympian

1935
02:11:50,000 --> 02:11:54,000
or whatever can swim a lot faster than that but as like a normal

1936
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yeah normal joe you smack into the wall i i

1937
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found it quite challenging to keep up with the water

1938
02:12:02,000 --> 02:12:06,000
treadmill at 1.5 meters per second and it looked

1939
02:12:06,000 --> 02:12:10,000
scary like watching the water moving that fast

1940
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because it's not long they also have scuba

1941
02:12:14,000 --> 02:12:18,000
equipment there what okay that's weird so you can go in the pool well one of their new watches

1942
02:12:18,000 --> 02:12:22,000
is like very scuba oriented okay

1943
02:12:22,000 --> 02:12:26,000
and that's not a fitness thing though no but like anyone to scuba for fitness

1944
02:12:26,000 --> 02:12:30,000
no yeah but i mean it's their validation

1945
02:12:30,000 --> 02:12:34,000
lab for their wearables so yeah so they built a feature

1946
02:12:34,000 --> 02:12:38,000
for it that um uses like high frequency chirps

1947
02:12:38,000 --> 02:12:42,000
to communicate under the water okay cool with other

1948
02:12:42,000 --> 02:12:46,000
wearers of the same watch so you don't all have to have the same watch it'd be super annoying for the fish

1949
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but yeah inconvenient but um what else did they have they had a

1950
02:12:50,000 --> 02:12:54,000
200 meter track that way scuba for fitness i think you're doing it wrong

1951
02:12:54,000 --> 02:12:58,000
yeah that's not that's not for fitness

1952
02:13:00,000 --> 02:13:04,000
any who sorry yeah they have a 200 meter track that goes

1953
02:13:04,000 --> 02:13:08,000
outside the building and then back in that's cool i like that so for running and cycling so

1954
02:13:08,000 --> 02:13:12,000
they have like cycling machines but also actual this is wild

1955
02:13:12,000 --> 02:13:14,000
they have a european style village

1956
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it's actually about 10 minutes away from the validation place but they use it for validation as well because

1957
02:13:20,000 --> 02:13:24,000
some of their tracking features require actual like gps

1958
02:13:24,000 --> 02:13:28,000
like physical movement so you can't just be in the building

1959
02:13:28,000 --> 02:13:32,000
so we have this amazing footage

1960
02:13:32,000 --> 02:13:36,000
they just they were building an office and they're Huawei so because we

1961
02:13:36,000 --> 02:13:40,000
f**king can they themed it after like a european style

1962
02:13:40,000 --> 02:13:44,000
village so it's all like stone and is like

1963
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walking into uncanny like europe town well they have that like

1964
02:13:48,000 --> 02:13:52,000
they have like france in china or whatever yeah i think that's the one

1965
02:13:52,000 --> 02:13:56,000
eiffel tower and stuff oh no not that one okay yeah anyway it's it's trippy

1966
02:13:56,000 --> 02:14:00,000
so we have footage of them on like a basically

1967
02:14:00,000 --> 02:14:04,000
like glorified golf cart that has like 12 or 14 seats on it or something

1968
02:14:04,000 --> 02:14:08,000
like that and our camera operator sitting in the back and me ripping around on a

1969
02:14:08,000 --> 02:14:12,000
road bike in europe in china

1970
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anywho yeah what else do they have

1971
02:14:16,000 --> 02:14:20,000
they have a bunch of stuff like shooting archery

1972
02:14:20,000 --> 02:14:24,000
i didn't actually get to do those ones but i did do a lot of stuff one of the new watches

1973
02:14:24,000 --> 02:14:28,000
has fall detection so they have this wrestling dummy that they

1974
02:14:28,000 --> 02:14:32,000
can use to like drop off the climbing pole

1975
02:14:32,000 --> 02:14:36,000
so they let us drop the dummy we did

1976
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i don't know man we just they were they were super chill

1977
02:14:40,000 --> 02:14:44,000
about letting us basically do whatever we wanted in there so it's going to be

1978
02:14:44,000 --> 02:14:48,000
a pretty cool video i was like can i get a ladder sorry what

1979
02:14:48,000 --> 02:14:52,000
can i get a ladder they're like okay what do you want

1980
02:14:52,000 --> 02:14:56,000
to do with it i'm like i want to dunk so we have

1981
02:14:56,000 --> 02:15:00,000
so we have a shot of me like dunking and then it like pulls out

1982
02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:04,000
and you see that i'm just like standing on that's pretty good

1983
02:15:04,000 --> 02:15:08,000
should be good there was one where i dunked

1984
02:15:08,000 --> 02:15:12,000
and then dropped down and then the ball hit me in the head but bjorn

1985
02:15:12,000 --> 02:15:16,000
missed it so we don't yeah we don't have that one that's okay

1986
02:15:16,000 --> 02:15:20,000
which is a bummer anywho

1987
02:15:20,000 --> 02:15:24,000
i don't know why i was talking about that but i am back

1988
02:15:24,000 --> 02:15:28,000
and you can look forward to all those videos it was it was pretty fun i

1989
02:15:28,000 --> 02:15:32,000
haven't gotten to write that much in a while so i had adam there for

1990
02:15:32,000 --> 02:15:36,000
the kyoksia one and so he helped with some of the writing for that but i also

1991
02:15:36,000 --> 02:15:40,000
did a lot of it and then for the other three it was all all me

1992
02:15:40,000 --> 02:15:44,000
all the time and it was it was fun is the kyoksia one going to have to go

1993
02:15:44,000 --> 02:15:48,000
through like a bunch of brand review you better believe it i mean all

1994
02:15:48,000 --> 02:15:52,000
except the mall were sponsored so like it's not

1995
02:15:52,000 --> 02:15:56,000
i just i just am excited do this kind of thing without more dollars

1996
02:15:56,000 --> 02:16:00,000
attached to it oh no i more i more mean like anytime

1997
02:16:00,000 --> 02:16:04,000
we have a factory tour there's so much it's not the sponsorship dollars that i'm wondering about

1998
02:16:04,000 --> 02:16:08,000
it's the like there's so much like oh hey actually

1999
02:16:08,000 --> 02:16:12,000
this corner of this thing can't be shown so it needs to be

2000
02:16:12,000 --> 02:16:16,000
blah blah blah blah minor changes minor changes minor changes

2001
02:16:16,000 --> 02:16:20,000
minor changes delays for months buddy however bad you think this trip was

2002
02:16:20,000 --> 02:16:24,000
you are not even close in that

2003
02:16:24,000 --> 02:16:28,000
sense yeah and i don't and i don't even i'm not trying to

2004
02:16:28,000 --> 02:16:32,000
be mean to anyone i understand the challenges

2005
02:16:32,000 --> 02:16:36,000
on the side of the brand but it was

2006
02:16:36,000 --> 02:16:40,000
very very very very challenging

2007
02:16:40,000 --> 02:16:44,000
and it's always like that you know when you're looking at stuff that no one's

2008
02:16:44,000 --> 02:16:48,000
ever seen before like the number of times at

2009
02:16:48,000 --> 02:16:52,000
pretty much every stop that someone's like well we can't show that we've never shown that before

2010
02:16:52,000 --> 02:16:56,000
and i'm like brother why am i here then

2011
02:16:56,000 --> 02:17:00,000
i am here to show things that you've never shown before yeah that's

2012
02:17:00,000 --> 02:17:04,000
literally why you invited me that'll happen every time it is always happens

2013
02:17:04,000 --> 02:17:08,000
it is what it is always happens already says we're good to go now

2014
02:17:08,000 --> 02:17:12,000
do you want to fire up the safe they've been good to go my dude

2015
02:17:12,000 --> 02:17:16,000
some of our most iconic t-shirts

2016
02:17:16,000 --> 02:17:20,000
are back from the dead we're calling it the greatest hits

2017
02:17:20,000 --> 02:17:24,000
collection five of our best-selling t-shirts from the past few years have been reimagined

2018
02:17:24,000 --> 02:17:28,000
in both new and classic colors so if you missed out

2019
02:17:28,000 --> 02:17:32,000
on the privateer t-shirt i think we got the name

2020
02:17:32,000 --> 02:17:36,000
did we call it adblock t-shirt i can't remember i think it was called privateer

2021
02:17:36,000 --> 02:17:40,000
before but it says adblock on it no it doesn't

2022
02:17:40,000 --> 02:17:43,000
it says ab

2023
02:17:43,000 --> 02:17:47,000
the lock yeah exactly

2024
02:17:47,000 --> 02:17:51,000
it says a pirate ship lock i would never say adblock

2025
02:17:51,000 --> 02:17:55,000
i would say privateering yeah

2026
02:17:55,000 --> 02:17:59,000
what else we got ah yes the northern lights t-shirt is back

2027
02:17:59,000 --> 02:18:03,000
northern lights v2 i was gonna say it's slightly different right

2028
02:18:03,000 --> 02:18:07,000
no i think one of them is the original and then the other one is like a reimagined

2029
02:18:07,000 --> 02:18:11,000
red color way exactly how it was in the original i don't think so no because

2030
02:18:11,000 --> 02:18:15,000
it was on a green blank but yes the graph is in a circle too

2031
02:18:15,000 --> 02:18:19,000
so this is northern lights v2 if i recall correctly yeah yeah okay

2032
02:18:19,000 --> 02:18:23,000
um we also have

2033
02:18:23,000 --> 02:18:27,000
the classic GPU t-shirt again in a couple of

2034
02:18:27,000 --> 02:18:31,000
different color ways and in regular and tall i notice the

2035
02:18:31,000 --> 02:18:35,000
tall on i think all of these which is you better believe it we've got

2036
02:18:35,000 --> 02:18:39,000
tall blanks now we also have our CPU t-shirt

2037
02:18:39,000 --> 02:18:43,000
available in both shadow and black

2038
02:18:43,000 --> 02:18:47,000
wow because shadows aren't black i guess

2039
02:18:47,000 --> 02:18:51,000
wow and finally the do not drop t-shirt also

2040
02:18:51,000 --> 02:18:55,000
available in shadow i think this is what i'm most excited about i really like bat graphics

2041
02:18:55,000 --> 02:18:59,000
and this one has a cool bat graphics sure does super cool bat

2042
02:18:59,000 --> 02:19:03,000
graphic you can find all of these t-shirts at LMG.gg

2043
02:19:03,000 --> 02:19:05,000
slash greatest hits

2044
02:19:07,000 --> 02:19:11,000
nice nice nice nice

2045
02:19:11,000 --> 02:19:15,000
all right we've got a couple more topics this is just

2046
02:19:15,000 --> 02:19:19,000
a conversation okay i want to talk

2047
02:19:19,000 --> 02:19:23,000
about this the trend towards login screens

2048
02:19:23,000 --> 02:19:27,000
having the username on one page and the password on another is it a trend

2049
02:19:27,000 --> 02:19:31,000
towards that it's it's a trend that is are you just using apple stuff more often

2050
02:19:31,000 --> 02:19:35,000
taking place over a very long period of time and is now deeply entrenched in many of the

2051
02:19:35,000 --> 02:19:39,000
services that i use i genuinely would like someone to explain

2052
02:19:39,000 --> 02:19:43,000
to me why this is a better experience than having both

2053
02:19:43,000 --> 02:19:47,000
on the same page i don't think anyone has done it for it to be a better experience

2054
02:19:47,000 --> 02:19:51,000
that's my take because like ages

2055
02:19:51,000 --> 02:19:55,000
ago google did it like man i'm trying to like how many over five years

2056
02:19:55,000 --> 02:19:59,000
ago at least and it's just like

2057
02:19:59,000 --> 02:20:03,000
you know that everyone wants to use password managers right

2058
02:20:03,000 --> 02:20:07,000
so we're just adding way more

2059
02:20:07,000 --> 02:20:11,000
interactions because now i go to the username page

2060
02:20:11,000 --> 02:20:15,000
and i have to interact with my password manager to auto fill that

2061
02:20:15,000 --> 02:20:19,000
then it goes to the password page or most infuriating

2062
02:20:19,000 --> 02:20:23,000
it expands a little bit and adds the password field

2063
02:20:23,000 --> 02:20:27,000
and then i have to interact with it again then i have to click

2064
02:20:27,000 --> 02:20:31,000
login then i have to go and open some kind

2065
02:20:31,000 --> 02:20:35,000
of two factor whether it's a passkey or whether it's

2066
02:20:35,000 --> 02:20:39,000
like you know a google authenticator code or whatever else or

2067
02:20:39,000 --> 02:20:43,000
email you might suck at using text message we'll have to explore that

2068
02:20:43,000 --> 02:20:47,000
um yeah whatever the point is i have to do something else yeah and then

2069
02:20:47,000 --> 02:20:51,000
i either have to revalidate my stupid thumb print

2070
02:20:51,000 --> 02:20:55,000
first when i first pick up my phone well not a thumb print i'm using an iphone right now

2071
02:20:55,000 --> 02:20:59,000
but you know i have to face stuff yeah on Android i have to

2072
02:20:59,000 --> 02:21:03,000
pick up my phone i have to biometrically authenticate then i have to tell it yes

2073
02:21:03,000 --> 02:21:07,000
this passkey yes that's me and then i have to biometrically authenticate again it's like bloody hell

2074
02:21:07,000 --> 02:21:11,000
i just unlocked my phone i don't want biometrically authenticate again i just did it

2075
02:21:13,000 --> 02:21:17,000
anyway then i often have to go back to the

2076
02:21:17,000 --> 02:21:21,000
page or have to wait around for the server to go oh yeah yeah yeah that he totally did

2077
02:21:21,000 --> 02:21:25,000
that and now i'm finally logged in why nice what if

2078
02:21:25,000 --> 02:21:29,000
what if both of the fields are just on the page and we could have slightly

2079
02:21:29,000 --> 02:21:33,000
fewer slightly fewer interactions in order to log into

2080
02:21:33,000 --> 02:21:37,000
a sacrifice yeah i mean i don't i don't have a

2081
02:21:37,000 --> 02:21:41,000
great answer for you i know some of it has to do with like

2082
02:21:41,000 --> 02:21:45,000
data security stuff i know someone has to do with maybe it's harder to brute

2083
02:21:45,000 --> 02:21:49,000
force things yeah spam login attempts was one thing that i could

2084
02:21:49,000 --> 02:21:53,000
think of stuff like that is the the only real reasons i've heard

2085
02:21:53,000 --> 02:21:57,000
in the past yeah slow down bots do it basically

2086
02:21:57,000 --> 02:22:01,000
just to mess with people that are not

2087
02:22:01,000 --> 02:22:05,000
playing correctly you know okay

2088
02:22:05,000 --> 02:22:09,000
um interrupt nefarious deeds

2089
02:22:09,000 --> 02:22:13,000
yeah i mean that's basically what jordan and the new type of writer

2090
02:22:13,000 --> 02:22:17,000
kind of said a bunch of people in chat are talking about sso stuff so determining if it's a corporate

2091
02:22:17,000 --> 02:22:21,000
account or a regular account determining the the type of account that it

2092
02:22:21,000 --> 02:22:25,000
is so then i mean okay this is something that drives me there's a better way to do that

2093
02:22:25,000 --> 02:22:29,000
crazy because yeah there's services that i use that

2094
02:22:31,000 --> 02:22:35,000
like teams for the longest time is a great example of this where you'd have

2095
02:22:35,000 --> 02:22:39,000
a completely separate app also called teams

2096
02:22:41,000 --> 02:22:45,000
right i just and uh and another another

2097
02:22:45,000 --> 02:22:49,000
really good one was actually i think i think keeper had this where you had to you had to

2098
02:22:49,000 --> 02:22:53,000
select a drop down whether it was like a corporate account or a personal account

2099
02:22:53,000 --> 02:22:57,000
was it keeper might have been something else uh that rings a bell but i

2100
02:22:57,000 --> 02:23:01,000
feel like i haven't seen that a long time but i'm sitting there going like okay

2101
02:23:01,000 --> 02:23:05,000
can't you just tell when i enter my email which one it is

2102
02:23:05,000 --> 02:23:09,000
and can't you just do that for me on the back back end

2103
02:23:11,000 --> 02:23:15,000
why do i have to tell you what kind of account it is well i think there's different like security

2104
02:23:15,000 --> 02:23:19,000
layers and stuff for fine you do it like why am i doing

2105
02:23:19,000 --> 02:23:23,000
it why do i have to tell you this you know it's a corporate account the second i put in a corporate

2106
02:23:23,000 --> 02:23:27,000
email and yeah they could probably have like

2107
02:23:27,000 --> 02:23:31,000
if you open teams it gives you a login box and you log

2108
02:23:31,000 --> 02:23:35,000
into that thing and then it authenticates you into

2109
02:23:35,000 --> 02:23:39,000
and loads whatever app you need i could see that happening sure i just

2110
02:23:39,000 --> 02:23:43,000
mean why make it the user's problem doing all of that work to solve

2111
02:23:43,000 --> 02:23:47,000
a problem for a relatively small amount of people

2112
02:23:47,000 --> 02:23:51,000
uh sydney brokett says they are doing it they need to hit a different flow a lot of the time

2113
02:23:51,000 --> 02:23:55,000
good do it on your side like i

2114
02:23:55,000 --> 02:23:59,000
i can understand why they don't

2115
02:23:59,000 --> 02:24:03,000
sure tell me then it's probably heavy it's probably expensive

2116
02:24:03,000 --> 02:24:07,000
might be annoying to dev developing things in companies like that takes

2117
02:24:07,000 --> 02:24:11,000
a very long time there's a lot of hoops and it might just never be approved

2118
02:24:13,000 --> 02:24:17,000
users most users don't care that much you are a bit

2119
02:24:17,000 --> 02:24:21,000
particularly horrific when it comes to security things i

2120
02:24:21,000 --> 02:24:25,000
log into a lot of stuff so anything around and on a lot of different devices

2121
02:24:25,000 --> 02:24:29,000
in a lot of different locations

2122
02:24:29,000 --> 02:24:33,000
countries vpn levels yeah

2123
02:24:33,000 --> 02:24:37,000
i log in i feel like i spend a significant

2124
02:24:37,000 --> 02:24:41,000
not double digits but a significant amount of work time fighting

2125
02:24:41,000 --> 02:24:45,000
with various logins i get prompted

2126
02:24:45,000 --> 02:24:49,000
so bloody much but then you want to be the admin to everything at the same time

2127
02:24:49,000 --> 02:24:53,000
what do i want to be the admin to you have specifically

2128
02:24:53,000 --> 02:24:57,000
gotten very frustrated many times over the history of this company

2129
02:24:57,000 --> 02:25:01,000
that you are not the admin of literally anything at any given time

2130
02:25:01,000 --> 02:25:05,000
you can't make that argument the only reason that i complain is when

2131
02:25:05,000 --> 02:25:09,000
i'm trying to do something and i don't have the access that i need

2132
02:25:09,000 --> 02:25:13,000
that's the same thing that's even worse that's still just a login problem

2133
02:25:15,000 --> 02:25:19,000
that's what i'm telling you what do you mean that's just a login problem

2134
02:25:19,000 --> 02:25:23,000
not having the login is an even worse login problem than it being inconvenient to login

2135
02:25:27,000 --> 02:25:31,000
but it's inconvenient to login in a lot of cases because you want admin level to everything

2136
02:25:31,000 --> 02:25:35,000
yeah but if i don't have it then i don't have the login but you could just have

2137
02:25:35,000 --> 02:25:39,000
like two accounts basically for everything you could have an admin level account

2138
02:25:39,000 --> 02:25:43,000
that's obfuscated and under a different keeper that is more annoying

2139
02:25:43,000 --> 02:25:47,000
but he won't do that that's because

2140
02:25:49,000 --> 02:25:53,000
we will run into a situation where it's like a weekend or something

2141
02:25:53,000 --> 02:25:57,000
and randomly i need access to something and i won't have it

2142
02:25:57,000 --> 02:26:01,000
and you could log into that account you could log into that other keeper

2143
02:26:01,000 --> 02:26:05,000
see he's not gonna do it but then this means that you need to have admin level securities

2144
02:26:05,000 --> 02:26:09,000
and that's gonna be super annoying it is super annoying

2145
02:26:09,000 --> 02:26:13,000
it blows something has to break the chain

2146
02:26:13,000 --> 02:26:17,000
he was so mad before the show because

2147
02:26:17,000 --> 02:26:21,000
in fairness to me you tried the flow and it didn't work

2148
02:26:21,000 --> 02:26:25,000
yeah and then knew immediately how to fix it because i've used a browser before

2149
02:26:25,000 --> 02:26:29,000
well no it's not okay hold on a second

2150
02:26:29,000 --> 02:26:33,000
i know but it's not that i don't know how to reinstall a browser extension

2151
02:26:33,000 --> 02:26:37,000
the issue is that these kinds of things come up for me all the f***ing time yeah that makes

2152
02:26:37,000 --> 02:26:41,000
it's constant every time i go to sign into something it's just a pain

2153
02:26:41,000 --> 02:26:45,000
yes and yes a lot of the time is self inflicted last night when i was trying to get

2154
02:26:45,000 --> 02:26:49,000
access to the WAN document i had just switched over to my iphone

2155
02:26:49,000 --> 02:26:53,000
and so i didn't have my pixel which has my stupid microsoft

2156
02:26:53,000 --> 02:26:57,000
passkey on it and so yeah i didn't migrate

2157
02:26:57,000 --> 02:27:01,000
i didn't migrate one of the f***ing two dozen bloody stupid

2158
02:27:01,000 --> 02:27:05,000
things that i rely on my phone for and so i wasn't able

2159
02:27:05,000 --> 02:27:09,000
to log into it at all because i didn't have it on me anymore

2160
02:27:09,000 --> 02:27:13,000
and because when i originally set up my microsoft account

2161
02:27:13,000 --> 02:27:17,000
the way the flow like dark patterned me into using the microsoft authenticator

2162
02:27:17,000 --> 02:27:21,000
yeah that's super annoying instead of my standard one that i normally use

2163
02:27:21,000 --> 02:27:25,000
so my pixel has also the one instance of the stupid microsoft authenticator on it

2164
02:27:25,000 --> 02:27:29,000
and so i just i couldn't get into an account and it was just really

2165
02:27:29,000 --> 02:27:33,000
frustrating because i switched devices a lot

2166
02:27:33,000 --> 02:27:37,000
i switched locations a lot and i switched which services i need

2167
02:27:37,000 --> 02:27:41,000
to a lot so it just i spent so much of my

2168
02:27:41,000 --> 02:27:45,000
life i feel like the biggest problem is the devices a lot thing which is

2169
02:27:45,000 --> 02:27:49,000
courier jobs well yeah you can really do about that but that's the the locations

2170
02:27:49,000 --> 02:27:53,000
a lot thing should be annoying once per location if everything

2171
02:27:53,000 --> 02:27:57,000
is operating properly which i understand is not quite the case

2172
02:27:57,000 --> 02:28:01,000
no because there's more than one location for every location because when i

2173
02:28:01,000 --> 02:28:05,000
go somewhere i'm going to be using it at the airport new location i'm

2174
02:28:05,000 --> 02:28:09,000
going to be using on the plane guess what new location i'm going to land

2175
02:28:09,000 --> 02:28:13,000
oh look a new location i'm going to go to the hotel oh now okay

2176
02:28:13,000 --> 02:28:17,000
i'm in china i'm using a vpn new fucking location

2177
02:28:17,000 --> 02:28:21,000
it's constant also you like teleported because of the vpn

2178
02:28:21,000 --> 02:28:25,000
probably probably so it's like that's sketchy he moved

2179
02:28:25,000 --> 02:28:29,000
really fast what's going on there drives me absolutely

2180
02:28:29,000 --> 02:28:33,000
he's not solved some of these issues yeah not really one of the biggest problems with hardware keys

2181
02:28:33,000 --> 02:28:37,000
is there's so many things that won't work with it yeah

2182
02:28:37,000 --> 02:28:41,000
like it's not a one stop solution and as soon as you have to

2183
02:28:41,000 --> 02:28:45,000
have sms as a as a two factor for something then that's

2184
02:28:45,000 --> 02:28:49,000
that's it's an attack vector you know and as soon as you have

2185
02:28:49,000 --> 02:28:53,000
to have this you know this other app it's an attack vector and so at a

2186
02:28:53,000 --> 02:28:57,000
certain point having the hardware key is just another potential

2187
02:28:57,000 --> 02:29:01,000
vector we often hear from

2188
02:29:01,000 --> 02:29:05,000
you know people that will say like oh why aren't like all your

2189
02:29:05,000 --> 02:29:09,000
services just sso based one a lot of

2190
02:29:09,000 --> 02:29:13,000
solutions will charge a wild increase in

2191
02:29:13,000 --> 02:29:17,000
in monthly cost per user to allow sso

2192
02:29:17,000 --> 02:29:21,000
because they know a lot of enterprises are just like no we are only going

2193
02:29:21,000 --> 02:29:25,000
to use sso for everything the other thing is that we use a ton

2194
02:29:25,000 --> 02:29:29,000
of things being a place that reviews consumer products we use

2195
02:29:29,000 --> 02:29:33,000
a ton of different logins which don't have it as an option and probably

2196
02:29:33,000 --> 02:29:37,000
never ever will so it's it's you you can't

2197
02:29:37,000 --> 02:29:41,000
just blanket everything has to be sso login either that doesn't work for

2198
02:29:41,000 --> 02:29:45,000
us at all yeah it's

2199
02:29:45,000 --> 02:29:49,000
it's it's frustrating

2200
02:29:49,000 --> 02:29:53,000
but and like okay even a hardware key that's that's an example of how

2201
02:29:53,000 --> 02:29:57,000
just with my job and all the various

2202
02:29:57,000 --> 02:30:01,000
options that I get pulled in even that the reason I stopped using

2203
02:30:01,000 --> 02:30:05,000
my ubi key was not because I like didn't like it or I thought it was you know bad

2204
02:30:05,000 --> 02:30:09,000
or whatever the reason I stopped using it was that often people need to borrow my keys

2205
02:30:09,000 --> 02:30:13,000
for some reason or another yeah we were just to be clear we were relatively

2206
02:30:13,000 --> 02:30:17,000
early adopters of ubi key yeah yeah way back

2207
02:30:17,000 --> 02:30:21,000
yeah super early like before 2014 or something way before they had like a type c

2208
02:30:21,000 --> 02:30:25,000
one you know yeah yeah and so like I will often

2209
02:30:25,000 --> 02:30:29,000
give bands my keys to they need to do

2210
02:30:29,000 --> 02:30:33,000
they need to do a shot now you can't log into things uses my yeah

2211
02:30:33,000 --> 02:30:37,000
yeah so what now yeah now I can't log in not convenient or you have to allow a bypass anyways

2212
02:30:37,000 --> 02:30:41,000
and then and then what's the point of even having the hardware key

2213
02:30:41,000 --> 02:30:45,000
this was this was a fun one is when we first adopted ubi key yeah it wasn't

2214
02:30:45,000 --> 02:30:49,000
supported by iPhone oh yeah so then we had to

2215
02:30:49,000 --> 02:30:53,000
build in workarounds for like everybody that had an iPhone and then it was just

2216
02:30:53,000 --> 02:30:57,000
like well why did we even bother to have the ubi key at all what are we doing yep

2217
02:30:57,000 --> 02:31:01,000
yep 100% because Apple still didn't allow third parties to access

2218
02:31:01,000 --> 02:31:05,000
their NFC chip and then they used lightning

2219
02:31:05,000 --> 02:31:09,000
instead of USB a which was

2220
02:31:09,000 --> 02:31:13,000
what the ubi keys had on them so there was no way to interface with an iPhone

2221
02:31:15,000 --> 02:31:19,000
anyway I seriously reconsider

2222
02:31:19,000 --> 02:31:23,000
SSO SSO is not an option

2223
02:31:23,000 --> 02:31:27,000
not for everything yeah we have it enabled for some stuff

2224
02:31:27,000 --> 02:31:31,000
and in some situations it annoys him as well just to be

2225
02:31:31,000 --> 02:31:35,000
clear he preferred the non SSO options which is

2226
02:31:35,000 --> 02:31:39,000
not I can't even single him out here that is true for other people at the office

2227
02:31:39,000 --> 02:31:43,000
as well SSO is not really

2228
02:31:43,000 --> 02:31:47,000
just automatic win yeah I end up in a really silly loop sometimes

2229
02:31:47,000 --> 02:31:51,000
because I and SSO is on me at least partially because I need to

2230
02:31:51,000 --> 02:31:55,000
go and fix this but I'll go to sign into

2231
02:31:55,000 --> 02:31:59,000
I'll go to sign into my Microsoft Teams account because I'll be logged in

2232
02:31:59,000 --> 02:32:03,000
AGAIN or logged out again rather the point so I go to sign into it

2233
02:32:03,000 --> 02:32:07,000
don't forget to check the box it doesn't work thank you to stay signed in one

2234
02:32:07,000 --> 02:32:11,000
so I'll go to sign into Teams and I won't know my Teams password because

2235
02:32:11,000 --> 02:32:15,000
I keep it in my Keeper I will go to sign into Keeper

2236
02:32:15,000 --> 02:32:19,000
and it will prompt me to enter a single sign on

2237
02:32:19,000 --> 02:32:23,000
so I will pull my phone out of my pocket log into my Keeper on my

2238
02:32:23,000 --> 02:32:27,000
phone which often I will need to use my two factor authentication

2239
02:32:27,000 --> 02:32:31,000
in order to do I am now four bloody steps into this

2240
02:32:31,000 --> 02:32:35,000
I will log into my Keeper I will get my Microsoft password

2241
02:32:35,000 --> 02:32:39,000
it is on a separate device so I will have to type it

2242
02:32:39,000 --> 02:32:43,000
onto my computer I will log into my Microsoft

2243
02:32:43,000 --> 02:32:47,000
to log into my Keeper to get the Microsoft password to be it into my Teams

2244
02:32:47,000 --> 02:32:51,000
and the only reason I would do that rather than just look up the Teams password

2245
02:32:51,000 --> 02:32:55,000
on my phone is because then I am logged in to Keeper

2246
02:32:55,000 --> 02:32:59,000
on my browser anyway so I can use it for other stuff because otherwise yes I could just pull my phone out

2247
02:32:59,000 --> 02:33:03,000
of my pocket check the password and log in there but no your first flow is the like correct one

2248
02:33:03,000 --> 02:33:07,000
because yeah you are going to have to use it again anyways like you said and then the hilarious one

2249
02:33:07,000 --> 02:33:11,000
is that I have my pass key for

2250
02:33:11,000 --> 02:33:15,000
my Microsoft account on my phone anyway so if I have to use

2251
02:33:15,000 --> 02:33:19,000
my pass key then I have to biometrically authenticate my phone click a thing

2252
02:33:19,000 --> 02:33:23,000
biometrically authenticate again click another thing yes it's me

2253
02:33:23,000 --> 02:33:27,000
I have to give them credit Google's login is fantastic

2254
02:33:27,000 --> 02:33:31,000
it's pretty okay oh is it you do you have your phone click yes

2255
02:33:31,000 --> 02:33:35,000
alright yeah yep

2256
02:33:35,000 --> 02:33:39,000
like oh hey it's pretty okay it's pretty okay compared to like basically everything out there

2257
02:33:39,000 --> 02:33:43,000
right now it's pretty good it often doesn't give me that option because it gets confused by all my devices and locations

2258
02:33:43,000 --> 02:33:47,000
and it's contextual it gives you that option

2259
02:33:47,000 --> 02:33:51,000
when it is like pretty sure yep

2260
02:33:51,000 --> 02:33:55,000
I do think that's cool though also belltrick says these are some first world problems

2261
02:33:55,000 --> 02:33:59,000
I mean what they are is their work frustrations and I think that's

2262
02:33:59,000 --> 02:34:03,000
something that we can probably all relate to anyone yeah like if there's anything

2263
02:34:03,000 --> 02:34:07,000
that you have to do at work that is completely unnecessary

2264
02:34:07,000 --> 02:34:11,000
in terms of like productivity it doesn't create

2265
02:34:11,000 --> 02:34:15,000
absolutely necessary mister I have to have admin to everything in terms of productivity

2266
02:34:15,000 --> 02:34:19,000
it generates nothing but it is necessary for security

2267
02:34:19,000 --> 02:34:23,000
I know but it's not productive though that's all I'm saying it doesn't get any work done

2268
02:34:23,000 --> 02:34:27,000
yeah yeah it gets zero anything

2269
02:34:27,000 --> 02:34:31,000
accomplished so yeah it's it's frustrating and it just it takes

2270
02:34:31,000 --> 02:34:35,000
it's a it's a time sap it's not it doesn't

2271
02:34:35,000 --> 02:34:39,000
make me more efficient it doesn't make me happier it doesn't make me more productive

2272
02:34:39,000 --> 02:34:41,000
it just is annoying

2273
02:34:47,000 --> 02:34:51,000
oh my god just easy you became putting a wall I'm going crazy that I can't

2274
02:34:51,000 --> 02:34:55,000
explain more that that just will not solve the problem

2275
02:34:55,000 --> 02:34:59,000
the the on my keys thing was like one version

2276
02:34:59,000 --> 02:35:03,000
of why it won't work and also all the services that it doesn't

2277
02:35:03,000 --> 02:35:07,000
work for and also just all the

2278
02:35:07,000 --> 02:35:11,000
times that it's not convenient like some help in some ways sometimes I'll be using

2279
02:35:11,000 --> 02:35:15,000
a device like this this happened a lot back when I was trying to use my

2280
02:35:15,000 --> 02:35:19,000
UB key is I would be using a device that doesn't have a type A port

2281
02:35:19,000 --> 02:35:23,000
it doesn't happen as often anymore but sometimes well it's going to start happening more and more

2282
02:35:23,000 --> 02:35:27,000
sometimes these things happen it's it's laptops are going all type C which there are

2283
02:35:27,000 --> 02:35:31,000
type C ones when there might be double ended ones Monty Hawk says dude you're an edge case

2284
02:35:31,000 --> 02:35:35,000
yes that's the whole point of the conversation

2285
02:35:35,000 --> 02:35:39,000
obviously obviously yes

2286
02:35:41,000 --> 02:35:45,000
come on however

2287
02:35:45,000 --> 02:35:49,000
however the fact that this happens

2288
02:35:49,000 --> 02:35:53,000
so much that it is very frustrating for me

2289
02:35:53,000 --> 02:35:57,000
is not does not mean that

2290
02:35:57,000 --> 02:36:01,000
for someone else for whom it is not that frustrating and doesn't happen that often

2291
02:36:01,000 --> 02:36:05,000
doesn't mean that it couldn't be better for them too it doesn't mean that my edge case

2292
02:36:05,000 --> 02:36:09,000
has no possible learning outcomes that could be applied

2293
02:36:09,000 --> 02:36:13,000
to other things could log in be better could security

2294
02:36:13,000 --> 02:36:17,000
be better and smoother for the user I yeah I think we can probably

2295
02:36:17,000 --> 02:36:21,000
all agree that it could be better does everyone have the same level of frustration

2296
02:36:21,000 --> 02:36:25,000
with that I do absolutely not but it could absolutely

2297
02:36:25,000 --> 02:36:29,000
also be better all right

2298
02:36:29,000 --> 02:36:33,000
I don't think there's a unless I'm looking at this picture wrong

2299
02:36:33,000 --> 02:36:37,000
I don't think there's a UB key that is A and

2300
02:36:37,000 --> 02:36:41,000
C there's A and sorry there's C in lightning

2301
02:36:41,000 --> 02:36:45,000
there's just A and there's just C

2302
02:36:45,000 --> 02:36:49,000
I don't think there's A and C

2303
02:36:49,000 --> 02:36:53,000
meaning that you're always going to have at least some amount of problem

2304
02:36:53,000 --> 02:36:55,000
neat

2305
02:36:57,000 --> 02:37:01,000
well I will continue to be frustrated about it and it'll be great

2306
02:37:01,000 --> 02:37:05,000
oh this is nice Google has shut down nest gen 2's

2307
02:37:05,000 --> 02:37:09,000
and this is the best part

2308
02:37:09,000 --> 02:37:13,000
they simply refuse to allow it to be controlled locally

2309
02:37:13,000 --> 02:37:17,000
it is now e-waste nice

2310
02:37:17,000 --> 02:37:21,000
terrific and I was talking about some smart home stuff recently and I said

2311
02:37:21,000 --> 02:37:25,000
sure I will finally give up but if I do

2312
02:37:25,000 --> 02:37:29,000
I have to ask to support Home Assistant

2313
02:37:29,000 --> 02:37:33,000
I'm not getting anything that is not able to be locally controlled

2314
02:37:33,000 --> 02:37:37,000
you shouldn't have to even through

2315
02:37:37,000 --> 02:37:41,000
like third party integrations I didn't find any category of device

2316
02:37:41,000 --> 02:37:45,000
that there wasn't an option for I meant individual products

2317
02:37:45,000 --> 02:37:49,000
yeah yeah so the discussion

2318
02:37:49,000 --> 02:37:53,000
over in r slash Home Assistant does it still work in Home Assistant

2319
02:37:53,000 --> 02:37:57,000
there's a bounty out there for it if it does and okhawk says the device uses

2320
02:37:57,000 --> 02:38:01,000
signed firmware there's literally a key that Google has in their

2321
02:38:01,000 --> 02:38:05,000
possession that would unlock the capabilities of the device but Google is

2322
02:38:05,000 --> 02:38:09,000
keeping it from device owners while simultaneously killing the devices that's what makes

2323
02:38:09,000 --> 02:38:13,000
this whole scenario so absurd we really

2324
02:38:13,000 --> 02:38:17,000
do need to legislate that people own the stuff

2325
02:38:17,000 --> 02:38:21,000
they buy and they don't it doesn't have to be

2326
02:38:21,000 --> 02:38:25,000
maintained anymore by the device manufacturer

2327
02:38:25,000 --> 02:38:29,000
I think that there's got to be some kind of limit

2328
02:38:29,000 --> 02:38:33,000
for how long you have to support a game or a service or a product

2329
02:38:33,000 --> 02:38:37,000
like in 100 years I wouldn't expect Google's cloud servers

2330
02:38:37,000 --> 02:38:41,000
to necessarily still talk to a nest too alright

2331
02:38:41,000 --> 02:38:45,000
in 200 years like wherever there's got to be somewhere you've got to draw a line

2332
02:38:45,000 --> 02:38:49,000
but when they EOL it they've got to

2333
02:38:49,000 --> 02:38:53,000
allow local interaction with it they've got to open source it

2334
02:38:53,000 --> 02:38:57,000
they've got to do something yeah and pk7 said it

2335
02:38:57,000 --> 02:39:01,000
somewhere I'm pretty sure but I can't find it in chat now

2336
02:39:01,000 --> 02:39:05,000
so I think it was pk7 of someone else no it was

2337
02:39:05,000 --> 02:39:09,000
this is from the same company that actually thought to convert Stadia controllers to bluetooth

2338
02:39:09,000 --> 02:39:13,000
it is interesting just different teams massive massive orgs

2339
02:39:13,000 --> 02:39:17,000
and different teams just acting differently so pretty frustrating just wanted to shine a light

2340
02:39:17,000 --> 02:39:21,000
and say hey that's pretty uncool Google

2341
02:39:21,000 --> 02:39:25,000
very uncool apparently there's

2342
02:39:25,000 --> 02:39:29,000
nooky just posted a reddit thread that apparently there's a team of people working to

2343
02:39:29,000 --> 02:39:33,000
crack them open that's obviously not a good thing

2344
02:39:33,000 --> 02:39:37,000
this isn't like hurray Google did a good thing but

2345
02:39:37,000 --> 02:39:41,000
looks like the community might be trying to react to it which is cool

2346
02:39:41,000 --> 02:39:45,000
cool shout out C C K O Simba

2347
02:39:45,000 --> 02:39:49,000
yeah yeah there's nothing really to look at now

2348
02:39:49,000 --> 02:39:53,000
they're saying that they should have it up on github by Monday the latest that's really exciting

2349
02:39:53,000 --> 02:39:55,000
very cool let's go

2350
02:39:57,000 --> 02:40:01,000
neat all right what else we got

2351
02:40:03,000 --> 02:40:07,000
LTT Labs articles yeah speaking of cool and neat I guess

2352
02:40:07,000 --> 02:40:11,000
we've got the two Labs articles we've got the Apple 40 watt

2353
02:40:11,000 --> 02:40:15,000
dynamic power adapter thing

2354
02:40:15,000 --> 02:40:19,000
which I thought was kind of interesting because it came by default in the

2355
02:40:19,000 --> 02:40:23,000
Apple vision pro box

2356
02:40:23,000 --> 02:40:27,000
so as I was like unboxing that I got all excited about the power adapter because I was like

2357
02:40:27,000 --> 02:40:31,000
we have an article on this which might be the lamest

2358
02:40:31,000 --> 02:40:35,000
thing I've done in a while but yeah we've got that article because Lucas was

2359
02:40:35,000 --> 02:40:39,000
basically like all right how does that work

2360
02:40:39,000 --> 02:40:43,000
yeah because it was dynamic charging the only power adapter

2361
02:40:43,000 --> 02:40:47,000
that can achieve the claimed 50% battery in 20 minutes of the iPhone

2362
02:40:47,000 --> 02:40:51,000
1717 pro and 17 pro max

2363
02:40:51,000 --> 02:40:55,000
so can it what does it mean etc if you scroll down to the bottom

2364
02:40:55,000 --> 02:40:59,000
dynamic of course we had to

2365
02:40:59,000 --> 02:41:01,000
check it out on the x-ray

2366
02:41:03,000 --> 02:41:07,000
this is so cool shout out Luma field for making it

2367
02:41:07,000 --> 02:41:11,000
so easy for us to see the inside so happy they've let us hold on to that

2368
02:41:11,000 --> 02:41:15,000
dude it's so cool absolute bros but yeah to just

2369
02:41:15,000 --> 02:41:19,000
keep going with Lucas's notes here Labs investigated whether logi bolt is really

2370
02:41:19,000 --> 02:41:23,000
bluetooth bl le we're not going to talk anymore about what I'm coming back to it or

2371
02:41:23,000 --> 02:41:27,000
not and Apple's new 40 watt dynamic power adapter for the 40 watt

2372
02:41:27,000 --> 02:41:31,000
dynamic power adapter the new USB-C power adapter from Apple which guarantees

2373
02:41:31,000 --> 02:41:35,000
40 watt output but will boost to 60 watts we tested

2374
02:41:35,000 --> 02:41:39,000
how this will actually interact while your phone is charging iphone's

2375
02:41:39,000 --> 02:41:43,000
charge below 40 watts anyways and some longer term test

2376
02:41:43,000 --> 02:41:47,000
to determine when it drops to 40 watts and we're potentially going to test some stuff

2377
02:41:47,000 --> 02:41:51,000
with it later on as well but if you go down even further

2378
02:41:53,000 --> 02:41:57,000
keep going this graph is quite interesting

2379
02:41:57,000 --> 02:42:01,000
so it's a little bit hard for me to read it from there maybe I should just bring it up myself

2380
02:42:01,000 --> 02:42:05,000
but you've got the output power and the input power of the actual

2381
02:42:05,000 --> 02:42:09,000
unit the charger and then we're thinking that

2382
02:42:09,000 --> 02:42:13,000
so time is your your x and wattage is your y

2383
02:42:13,000 --> 02:42:17,000
so we're thinking that it because it stays at 60 for quite a while at the beginning

2384
02:42:17,000 --> 02:42:21,000
and we think it's thermal so it's getting too hot

2385
02:42:21,000 --> 02:42:25,000
going down to 40 cooling enough going back up

2386
02:42:25,000 --> 02:42:29,000
to 60 and coming back down we think that's what's going on

2387
02:42:29,000 --> 02:42:33,000
interesting but don't know duty cycle of

2388
02:42:33,000 --> 02:42:37,000
roughly 66% after the initial warming up

2389
02:42:39,000 --> 02:42:43,000
huh so on average about 50.33 watts

2390
02:42:45,000 --> 02:42:49,000
this goes slightly against my theory of apple building a 60 watt charger

2391
02:42:49,000 --> 02:42:53,000
that couldn't achieve their temperature limits 51 watts is quite far off of

2392
02:42:53,000 --> 02:42:57,000
60 watts if this is interesting to you I suggest you

2393
02:42:57,000 --> 02:43:01,000
check out all things one place who conducts power adapter testing regularly

2394
02:43:01,000 --> 02:43:05,000
and made a video about the 40 watt dynamic charger very cool great article

2395
02:43:05,000 --> 02:43:09,000
I also read the the bolt um

2396
02:43:09,000 --> 02:43:13,000
logi bolt article it was awesome yeah basically

2397
02:43:13,000 --> 02:43:17,000
that was uh like you know in a in a in a ShortCircuit

2398
02:43:17,000 --> 02:43:21,000
video we said it was just a bluetooth dongle which is a downer

2399
02:43:21,000 --> 02:43:25,000
people got mad so we were like all right well let's uh let's dive into

2400
02:43:25,000 --> 02:43:29,000
this let's reach out to logitech let's get information from them let's

2401
02:43:29,000 --> 02:43:33,000
uh kind of pull some of our testing together and look into what this thing is

2402
02:43:33,000 --> 02:43:37,000
and as it turns out from a performance standpoint it's just bluetooth

2403
02:43:37,000 --> 02:43:41,000
from a performance standpoint yeah which is a little bit more to it exactly

2404
02:43:41,000 --> 02:43:45,000
why it was a bit of a downer but also there is more to it

2405
02:43:45,000 --> 02:43:49,000
and the community was right yes that um it does have

2406
02:43:49,000 --> 02:43:53,000
advantages over just just bluetooth but yeah check out the

2407
02:43:53,000 --> 02:43:57,000
lab site we've we've been pushing a lot of articles lately

2408
02:43:57,000 --> 02:44:01,000
and we want to keep doing this I think Lucas has been

2409
02:44:01,000 --> 02:44:05,000
um taking the charge on a lot of these of like

2410
02:44:05,000 --> 02:44:09,000
having a question of like what is this thing

2411
02:44:09,000 --> 02:44:13,000
how does it work and then just deciding that you know what if we had

2412
02:44:13,000 --> 02:44:17,000
that question probably someone else did too let's let's follow it up

2413
02:44:17,000 --> 02:44:21,000
let's try to figure it out um also clearly like with the the

2414
02:44:21,000 --> 02:44:25,000
logi bolt one um if if we get

2415
02:44:25,000 --> 02:44:29,000
called out on something which might be fair like it was here we're going to try to dive

2416
02:44:29,000 --> 02:44:33,000
into that and learn more as well this is a knowledge base expansion for for us for

2417
02:44:33,000 --> 02:44:37,000
our companies and hopefully for you guys as well so um

2418
02:44:37,000 --> 02:44:41,000
this one's really good too I've read this one why the AirPods Pro 3

2419
02:44:41,000 --> 02:44:45,000
are a nightmare to test uh very interesting

2420
02:44:45,000 --> 02:44:49,000
very different frequency response

2421
02:44:49,000 --> 02:44:53,000
uh at different volume levels I had some people

2422
02:44:53,000 --> 02:44:57,000
really mad about us saying that in the ShortCircuit they were like no

2423
02:44:57,000 --> 02:45:01,000
that's not how it works but it does

2424
02:45:01,000 --> 02:45:05,000
if the manufacturer tunes it to do that which is

2425
02:45:05,000 --> 02:45:09,000
exactly why we were saying yeah it's kind of weird um we worked with

2426
02:45:09,000 --> 02:45:13,000
Griffin from the headphone show on that one um pretty cool yeah we're also

2427
02:45:13,000 --> 02:45:17,000
trying to use this as like somewhat of a collaboration thing so we can like work with

2428
02:45:17,000 --> 02:45:21,000
certain external experts and stuff do you see our Buffalo makes a really good

2429
02:45:21,000 --> 02:45:25,000
point TechLink should be promoting new Labs articles

2430
02:45:27,000 --> 02:45:31,000
like primary source articles from the Labs like why not

2431
02:45:31,000 --> 02:45:35,000
it's news duh

2432
02:45:35,000 --> 02:45:39,000
seems kind of obvious to me definitely thought about that

2433
02:45:39,000 --> 02:45:43,000
yeah I never thought of it either that's cool like we have a new show

2434
02:45:43,000 --> 02:45:47,000
okay cool good chat neat I want to talk about

2435
02:45:47,000 --> 02:45:51,000
oh hold on let's do this really quick YouTuber CyperCPU

2436
02:45:51,000 --> 02:45:55,000
has accused Microsoft of orchestrating YouTube's removal of some of his

2437
02:45:55,000 --> 02:45:59,000
Windows 11 tutorials that enable users to install the OS on non-supported hardware

2438
02:45:59,000 --> 02:46:03,000
and without an online connection for violating the

2439
02:46:03,000 --> 02:46:07,000
platform's community guidelines after appealing the takedowns

2440
02:46:07,000 --> 02:46:11,000
he received a vague answer as to why the videos had been removed from YouTube that said

2441
02:46:11,000 --> 02:46:15,000
the warning strike you received was issued based on a violation of

2442
02:46:15,000 --> 02:46:19,000
harmful or dangerous content which prohibits content that encourages or promotes

2443
02:46:19,000 --> 02:46:23,000
behavior that encourages dangerous or illegal activities that risk

2444
02:46:23,000 --> 02:46:27,000
serious physical harm or death does bypassing TPM

2445
02:46:27,000 --> 02:46:31,000
2.0 really pose a serious risk of physical harm or death?

2446
02:46:31,000 --> 02:46:35,000
no if Microsoft is threatening

2447
02:46:35,000 --> 02:46:39,000
to kill or harm you if you don't take them down

2448
02:46:39,000 --> 02:46:43,000
very good very good our discussion question

2449
02:46:43,000 --> 02:46:47,000
here is why does Microsoft want to prevent people from using older computers with Windows 11?

2450
02:46:47,000 --> 02:46:51,000
why do they care? I don't know

2451
02:46:51,000 --> 02:46:55,000
it's been a little strange to me too especially because it's like

2452
02:46:55,000 --> 02:46:59,000
not that hard to bypass yeah so like

2453
02:46:59,000 --> 02:47:03,000
yeah why specifically are YouTube videos getting taken down

2454
02:47:03,000 --> 02:47:07,000
like it's not like you can't find these resources so can we just very easily

2455
02:47:07,000 --> 02:47:11,000
can we just not? that'd be cool

2456
02:47:11,000 --> 02:47:15,000
good chat I want to talk about how

2457
02:47:15,000 --> 02:47:19,000
I want to point out one thing really quick I just I don't know I showed it out

2458
02:47:19,000 --> 02:47:23,000
Lucas for coming up with cool articles and pursuing them and writing them and stuff

2459
02:47:23,000 --> 02:47:27,000
and that has been great thank you Lucas I also want to say that this has been like

2460
02:47:27,000 --> 02:47:31,000
a team effort from the lab so

2461
02:47:31,000 --> 02:47:35,000
I didn't want to just single out only only Lucas it's been it's been cool

2462
02:47:35,000 --> 02:47:39,000
I've been really enjoying that and one of our like

2463
02:47:39,000 --> 02:47:43,000
working order things for a bit now and continuing forward has just been

2464
02:47:43,000 --> 02:47:47,000
yeah if there's an interesting question follow it up so it's been I've appreciated

2465
02:47:47,000 --> 02:47:51,000
that the whole team has embraced that professionally curious is exactly

2466
02:47:51,000 --> 02:47:55,000
what we want in a department like that okay I got one more quick one here

2467
02:47:55,000 --> 02:47:59,000
AMD releases new Zen 2

2468
02:47:59,000 --> 02:48:03,000
and Zen 3 plus CPUs as Ryzen 10

2469
02:48:03,000 --> 02:48:07,000
and Ryzen 100 these new

2470
02:48:07,000 --> 02:48:11,000
CPUs based on Zen 2 include the Athlon Silver 10

2471
02:48:11,000 --> 02:48:15,000
which is a dual core the Athlon Gold 20

2472
02:48:15,000 --> 02:48:19,000
which is also a dual core although at least it has SMT

2473
02:48:19,000 --> 02:48:23,000
the Ryzen 330 a quad core and the Ryzen 5

2474
02:48:23,000 --> 02:48:25,000
40 also a quad core

2475
02:48:27,000 --> 02:48:31,000
the new Rembrandt CPUs based on Zen 3 plus are the Ryzen 3

2476
02:48:31,000 --> 02:48:35,000
110 the Ryzen 5 130 the Ryzen 5 150 Ryzen 7

2477
02:48:35,000 --> 02:48:39,000
Ryzen 7 based on Zen 3 plus now

2478
02:48:39,000 --> 02:48:43,000
come on man Ryzen 7

2479
02:48:43,000 --> 02:48:47,000
170 8 cores up to 4.57 gigahertz what are they doing

2480
02:48:47,000 --> 02:48:51,000
why do they need to do this can they just have the old can people can we just know it's an old

2481
02:48:51,000 --> 02:48:55,000
CPU and then just buy an old CPU

2482
02:48:57,000 --> 02:49:01,000
exhausting I'm

2483
02:49:01,000 --> 02:49:05,000
tired of it what we have is

2484
02:49:05,000 --> 02:49:09,000
driving Chinese EVs I don't know if you saw this

2485
02:49:09,000 --> 02:49:13,000
Prime Minister Mark Carney Canada's relationship with China is at a

2486
02:49:13,000 --> 02:49:17,000
turning point control F hold on oh no

2487
02:49:17,000 --> 02:49:19,000
I

2488
02:49:21,000 --> 02:49:25,000
hold on hold on hold on

2489
02:49:27,000 --> 02:49:31,000
hold on where is it here we go

2490
02:49:31,000 --> 02:49:35,000
here we go hold on this is not

2491
02:49:35,000 --> 02:49:39,000
oh yeah okay they discussed

2492
02:49:39,000 --> 02:49:43,000
solutions to respective sensitivities regarding issues including agriculture

2493
02:49:43,000 --> 02:49:47,000
and agri-food products such as canola as well as seafood and

2494
02:49:47,000 --> 02:49:51,000
electric vehicles according to the readout

2495
02:49:51,000 --> 02:49:55,000
so I don't know if folks know this but in lockstep with the US

2496
02:49:55,000 --> 02:49:59,000
Canada introduced 100% tariffs on

2497
02:49:59,000 --> 02:50:03,000
Chinese EVs a number of years ago which has made it basically

2498
02:50:03,000 --> 02:50:07,000
impossible for Chinese EV makers to import their vehicles

2499
02:50:07,000 --> 02:50:11,000
into Canada there's been a couple of exceptions vinfast tried

2500
02:50:11,000 --> 02:50:15,000
to kind of launch here and I think I've seen like two on the road but

2501
02:50:15,000 --> 02:50:19,000
I've not had a ton of success because with a 100%

2502
02:50:19,000 --> 02:50:23,000
tariff it's pretty hard to ship over here and

2503
02:50:23,000 --> 02:50:27,000
I don't think vinfast set up manufacturing here in any capacity

2504
02:50:27,000 --> 02:50:31,000
vinfast manufacturing in Canada

2505
02:50:31,000 --> 02:50:35,000
I don't think they did so they do not have

2506
02:50:35,000 --> 02:50:39,000
a very yeah no they have no manufacturing

2507
02:50:39,000 --> 02:50:43,000
in Canada oh are they Vietnamese?

2508
02:50:43,000 --> 02:50:47,000
oh they are there you go sorry vinfast you guys

2509
02:50:47,000 --> 02:50:51,000
are a very relevant brand and I cared a lot about where

2510
02:50:51,000 --> 02:50:55,000
you were from I'm sorry

2511
02:50:55,000 --> 02:50:59,000
anyway what I really want to talk about today

2512
02:50:59,000 --> 02:51:01,000
is oh shoot do I have

2513
02:51:05,000 --> 02:51:09,000
I was over in China recently and I did get a couple of

2514
02:51:09,000 --> 02:51:13,000
opportunities to chill in a Chinese EV

2515
02:51:13,000 --> 02:51:17,000
and you know how Ford CEO has gone

2516
02:51:17,000 --> 02:51:21,000
on the record a number of times at this point basically saying hey

2517
02:51:21,000 --> 02:51:25,000
if the North American auto industry doesn't get its act together

2518
02:51:25,000 --> 02:51:29,000
like we're cooked boys yeah

2519
02:51:29,000 --> 02:51:33,000
I don't know if there's going to be

2520
02:51:33,000 --> 02:51:37,000
an opportunity to get their act together

2521
02:51:37,000 --> 02:51:41,000
it's just holding them out with tariffs that's effectively all it is now

2522
02:51:41,000 --> 02:51:45,000
I think the cookage is

2523
02:51:45,000 --> 02:51:49,000
basically a foregone conclusion at this point man

2524
02:51:49,000 --> 02:51:53,000
in the car while I was over there that is going to

2525
02:51:53,000 --> 02:51:57,000
absolutely blow your mind when I finally find the bloody picture of it

2526
02:51:57,000 --> 02:52:01,000
and we get it up on screen here sorry

2527
02:52:01,000 --> 02:52:05,000
my sincere apologies I don't know what is going on did I take it on the iPhone

2528
02:52:05,000 --> 02:52:09,000
I don't think I did I

2529
02:52:09,000 --> 02:52:13,000
quick stall for time do a merge message or something I'm sorry

2530
02:52:13,000 --> 02:52:17,000
sure everything thank you

2531
02:52:17,000 --> 02:52:21,000
let's see what I can find here look this might be useful for you

2532
02:52:21,000 --> 02:52:25,000
hi DLL what's the worst case of we don't need a pro you've seen

2533
02:52:25,000 --> 02:52:29,000
I was helping run Wi-Fi for a festival 35,000 attendees with

2534
02:52:29,000 --> 02:52:33,000
80 unify ap's a marketing guy suggested replacing the system

2535
02:52:33,000 --> 02:52:37,000
with starlings what

2536
02:52:37,000 --> 02:52:41,000
nice worst case

2537
02:52:41,000 --> 02:52:45,000
of we don't need a pro I'm afraid you've seen some here

2538
02:52:45,000 --> 02:52:49,000
our entire company we can do that

2539
02:52:49,000 --> 02:52:53,000
we reinvent a lot of wheels let's just hire a recent graduate

2540
02:52:53,000 --> 02:52:57,000
should be fine figure it out

2541
02:52:57,000 --> 02:53:01,000
and it's way better for the content to figure it out as we go

2542
02:53:01,000 --> 02:53:05,000
yeah no I'm not a

2543
02:53:05,000 --> 02:53:09,000
convenient store robber I'm Duke from the season before

2544
02:53:09,000 --> 02:53:13,000
the last season of skype redwood that's pretty good too though

2545
02:53:13,000 --> 02:53:17,000
I don't know there's a ton of examples of that

2546
02:53:17,000 --> 02:53:21,000
it like here I mean we

2547
02:53:21,000 --> 02:53:25,000
we don't need a pro this is I'm slightly copping out

2548
02:53:25,000 --> 02:53:29,000
by saying we can just do this ourselves instead of use an external service

2549
02:53:29,000 --> 02:53:33,000
so series of professionals maybe I was going to say full play

2550
02:53:33,000 --> 02:53:37,000
nice like oh you can do that that was crazy that was stupid

2551
02:53:37,000 --> 02:53:41,000
that was probably one of the most brutal ones we've ever done yeah

2552
02:53:41,000 --> 02:53:45,000
it's working but like like my goodness

2553
02:53:45,000 --> 02:53:49,000
it literally is like a multi-million dollar a year

2554
02:53:49,000 --> 02:53:53,000
success multi-platform at this point

2555
02:53:53,000 --> 02:53:57,000
it's working it's just it powers us, sauce plus

2556
02:53:57,000 --> 02:54:01,000
a lot of other creators on Floatplane like I don't know man

2557
02:54:01,000 --> 02:54:05,000
we kind of you know yeah you kind of did it

2558
02:54:05,000 --> 02:54:09,000
it has cool future plans the team's kind of amazing

2559
02:54:09,000 --> 02:54:13,000
we finally have a dev team yeah which is cool

2560
02:54:13,000 --> 02:54:17,000
who has done all kinds of other cool stuff like I don't know

2561
02:54:17,000 --> 02:54:21,000
I really like working on Floatplane stuff our whole like

2562
02:54:21,000 --> 02:54:25,000
I just do, feels like home I feel like we kind of fail upward a lot

2563
02:54:25,000 --> 02:54:29,000
you know you know what I mean right

2564
02:54:29,000 --> 02:54:33,000
not in the way that that normally is meant right like failing upwards is when you're like incompetent

2565
02:54:33,000 --> 02:54:37,000
and you get kind of pushed out but into like a higher position

2566
02:54:37,000 --> 02:54:41,000
kind of like a nepotism sort of connotation like we but we've just managed to

2567
02:54:41,000 --> 02:54:45,000
screw up our way to the top but like

2568
02:54:45,000 --> 02:54:49,000
like it actually worked like it didn't fail yeah but it should have

2569
02:54:49,000 --> 02:54:53,000
yeah it was just way harder than it needed to be

2570
02:54:53,000 --> 02:54:57,000
that was most of it decision-making failure

2571
02:54:57,000 --> 02:55:01,000
I had a lot of conversations with people where it would start as like

2572
02:55:01,000 --> 02:55:05,000
you shouldn't do this because you can't and then it would end up being like

2573
02:55:05,000 --> 02:55:09,000
okay fine

2574
02:55:09,000 --> 02:55:13,000
you can but like why I didn't listen to that part

2575
02:55:13,000 --> 02:55:17,000
I just listened to that you can't like no we can

2576
02:55:23,000 --> 02:55:27,000
yeah did you figure your thing out yeah yeah

2577
02:55:29,000 --> 02:55:33,000
I rode okay don't wait not yet

2578
02:55:33,000 --> 02:55:37,000
so I rode in a couple of cars so one of them was part of the Huawei demo at their

2579
02:55:37,000 --> 02:55:41,000
flagship store which includes everything if I was asked to

2580
02:55:41,000 --> 02:55:45,000
design a store to showcase everything from like wearables to TVs

2581
02:55:45,000 --> 02:55:49,000
to automobiles I wouldn't even know where to start but honestly they kind of nailed it

2582
02:55:49,000 --> 02:55:53,000
so they had some cars that had like partner technologies in their

2583
02:55:53,000 --> 02:55:57,000
showroom so we went a test drive and one and it's got

2584
02:55:57,000 --> 02:56:01,000
voice activation this and assisted driving whatever

2585
02:56:01,000 --> 02:56:05,000
that and like you know it's kind of cool

2586
02:56:05,000 --> 02:56:09,000
but this one the one that they used

2587
02:56:09,000 --> 02:56:13,000
to drive us between the locations where they were just like showing off Huawei technology

2588
02:56:13,000 --> 02:56:17,000
integrations and vehicles absolutely blew my mind

2589
02:56:17,000 --> 02:56:19,000
and I agree with Ford CEO

2590
02:56:21,000 --> 02:56:25,000
we're cooked over here we're cooked check this out

2591
02:56:25,000 --> 02:56:29,000
first one yeah so this is me and Sharad

2592
02:56:29,000 --> 02:56:33,000
in the back of a whatever this is I actually can't remember what the model name is

2593
02:56:33,000 --> 02:56:37,000
so that's embarrassing we have a starry night sky

2594
02:56:37,000 --> 02:56:41,000
thing above us sure in the

2595
02:56:41,000 --> 02:56:45,000
next to by Sharad's

2596
02:56:45,000 --> 02:56:49,000
elbow okay so you can see all the seat adjustments in there and then right next to

2597
02:56:49,000 --> 02:56:53,000
that each seat has a little like pop out

2598
02:56:53,000 --> 02:56:57,000
phone like device that you can use to control the

2599
02:56:57,000 --> 02:57:01,000
various functions in the car including the heating

2600
02:57:01,000 --> 02:57:05,000
cooling of your seat the temperature

2601
02:57:05,000 --> 02:57:09,000
of the fridge that's between us so there's a little like

2602
02:57:09,000 --> 02:57:13,000
fridge that could hold maybe like a wine bottle or a couple of other drinks

2603
02:57:13,000 --> 02:57:17,000
in between us where that like Kleenex thing is

2604
02:57:17,000 --> 02:57:21,000
okay now

2605
02:57:21,000 --> 02:57:25,000
are you a little impressed yeah but it just looks like

2606
02:57:25,000 --> 02:57:29,000
an expensive back of a car all right hit them with the next one

2607
02:57:29,000 --> 02:57:33,000
wow so

2608
02:57:33,000 --> 02:57:37,000
you could mod that in but it's a

2609
02:57:37,000 --> 02:57:41,000
it's very pit my ride so in between our heads

2610
02:57:41,000 --> 02:57:45,000
is a projector and you press a button

2611
02:57:45,000 --> 02:57:49,000
that lowers a projector screen

2612
02:57:49,000 --> 02:57:53,000
the Windows what's it called

2613
02:57:53,000 --> 02:57:57,000
electro-chromatic leg room is this a really long car

2614
02:57:57,000 --> 02:58:01,000
it's meant to be it's the kind of car you're meant to be

2615
02:58:01,000 --> 02:58:05,000
a passenger vehicle or whatever it's called yeah so it's kind of competing with

2616
02:58:05,000 --> 02:58:09,000
like you know the roles the Maybach

2617
02:58:09,000 --> 02:58:13,000
exactly and okay sorry what was I saying

2618
02:58:13,000 --> 02:58:17,000
so the projector screen comes down

2619
02:58:17,000 --> 02:58:21,000
there is a camera you can see there's a webcam up at the top of the

2620
02:58:21,000 --> 02:58:25,000
so you can like take a conference call it's good

2621
02:58:25,000 --> 02:58:29,000
sure but also so you can take a conference call

2622
02:58:29,000 --> 02:58:33,000
you know and have all the other meeting

2623
02:58:33,000 --> 02:58:37,000
attendees on the projector screen the Windows are

2624
02:58:37,000 --> 02:58:41,000
I believe they are what's it called

2625
02:58:41,000 --> 02:58:45,000
electro-chromic and they have like a filter

2626
02:58:45,000 --> 02:58:49,000
that comes up so they have like a sunshade that comes up to make it actually quite dark

2627
02:58:49,000 --> 02:58:53,000
in the back there's wireless charging

2628
02:58:53,000 --> 02:58:57,000
in the armrest there's two little slips where you can

2629
02:58:57,000 --> 02:59:01,000
slip your phone into right by that piece of paper nice I see that

2630
02:59:01,000 --> 02:59:05,000
Sherrod was joking really all these features and no cupholder

2631
02:59:05,000 --> 02:59:09,000
retractable cupholder that's under where the charging is

2632
02:59:09,000 --> 02:59:13,000
so you kind of hit a button and then it pops out in between us

2633
02:59:13,000 --> 02:59:17,000
the seats fully recline and adjust oh they have massage

2634
02:59:17,000 --> 02:59:21,000
and cooling and one of the really wild features

2635
02:59:21,000 --> 02:59:25,000
you can go back to us is it includes a privacy mode

2636
02:59:25,000 --> 02:59:29,000
so that the passengers in the front can't hear you

2637
02:59:29,000 --> 02:59:33,000
or the front passenger and the driver can't hear you

2638
02:59:33,000 --> 02:59:37,000
and we were like okay well that's stupid there's no way that works

2639
02:59:37,000 --> 02:59:41,000
and then Sherrod pressed it and it turns out that it doesn't just try to like

2640
02:59:41,000 --> 02:59:45,000
ANC what you're saying because that would be we don't have that technology

2641
02:59:45,000 --> 02:59:49,000
but what it does is it adds it like an echo loop

2642
02:59:49,000 --> 02:59:53,000
and a bunch of sort of noise

2643
02:59:53,000 --> 02:59:57,000
it sort of salts the data so to speak

2644
02:59:57,000 --> 03:00:01,000
while probably also doing the ANC stuff yeah

2645
03:00:01,000 --> 03:00:05,000
I didn't actually try sitting in the front unfortunately

2646
03:00:05,000 --> 03:00:09,000
I didn't really get a chance but pretty wild

2647
03:00:09,000 --> 03:00:13,000
now was it this thing oh yeah that's it

2648
03:00:13,000 --> 03:00:17,000
yeah so no key found it of course hold on hold on don't look too closely yet

2649
03:00:17,000 --> 03:00:21,000
I want you to I want you to guess

2650
03:00:21,000 --> 03:00:25,000
what it costs I stopped it from being there but it's still on my screen

2651
03:00:25,000 --> 03:00:29,000
hold on hold on hold on okay first of all

2652
03:00:29,000 --> 03:00:33,000
so what does it look like

2653
03:00:33,000 --> 03:00:37,000
what's a ghost cost okay 400k is my guess

2654
03:00:37,000 --> 03:00:41,000
600k if you don't customize anything

2655
03:00:41,000 --> 03:00:45,000
the options blah blah which currency are we talking

2656
03:00:45,000 --> 03:00:49,000
commission you don't buy you don't buy a ghost you commission

2657
03:00:49,000 --> 03:00:53,000
a ghost so I actually don't remember how much they cost

2658
03:00:53,000 --> 03:00:57,000
oh yes do they even have a starting price

2659
03:00:57,000 --> 03:01:01,000
for crying out loud make an inquiry okay forget it the point

2660
03:01:01,000 --> 03:01:05,000
is probably about half a million dollars by the time you actually like

2661
03:01:05,000 --> 03:01:09,000
do anything is the ghost the expensive one I don't even think that's the top

2662
03:01:09,000 --> 03:01:13,000
of the line though that's like their that's like their kind of their workhorse

2663
03:01:13,000 --> 03:01:17,000
is my understanding I don't I don't know their lineup extremely well I've never

2664
03:01:17,000 --> 03:01:21,000
bought a rolls sorry uh

2665
03:01:21,000 --> 03:01:25,000
lowest possible is like 355

2666
03:01:25,000 --> 03:01:29,000
okay what I'm seeing it can go a lot higher is the phantom their

2667
03:01:29,000 --> 03:01:33,000
starter I actually can't remember the peasant spine

2668
03:01:33,000 --> 03:01:37,000
ghost yeah I'm actually not sure I think the cullinan is higher end that's the

2669
03:01:37,000 --> 03:01:41,000
suv right yeah uh

2670
03:01:41,000 --> 03:01:45,000
I don't know what the specter is yeah I can't remember

2671
03:01:45,000 --> 03:01:49,000
okay anyway anyway

2672
03:01:49,000 --> 03:01:53,000
how much do you think the mic stroll costs 80k

2673
03:01:55,000 --> 03:01:59,000
okay why would you why would you guess that

2674
03:01:59,000 --> 03:02:03,000
I don't know I didn't look it up I don't I'm assuming I'm

2675
03:02:03,000 --> 03:02:07,000
not correct no you're not right but yeah I'm just wondering why you would guess

2676
03:02:07,000 --> 03:02:11,000
$80,000 like what could what else could you buy for $80,000 it's it's like

2677
03:02:11,000 --> 03:02:15,000
cheaper than the high-end Teslas

2678
03:02:15,000 --> 03:02:19,000
but more expensive than like I don't know other stuff

2679
03:02:19,000 --> 03:02:23,000
starts at about 100k okay but we're still

2680
03:02:23,000 --> 03:02:27,000
it's an EV so it comes with like batteries

2681
03:02:27,000 --> 03:02:31,000
which are a cost that you know a gasoline competitor

2682
03:02:31,000 --> 03:02:35,000
doesn't have to deal with yeah um so you you never have to put

2683
03:02:35,000 --> 03:02:39,000
gas in it it is

2684
03:02:39,000 --> 03:02:43,000
like you're sitting on a couch basically in the back of it it's crazy

2685
03:02:43,000 --> 03:02:47,000
I did I think I told you when I was in China I got

2686
03:02:47,000 --> 03:02:51,000
chauffeured around one time in the back of a Maybach and I had

2687
03:02:51,000 --> 03:02:55,000
the same feeling I sat in that chair and was just like what the heck

2688
03:02:55,000 --> 03:02:59,000
it's weird it feels almost uncanny it's like

2689
03:02:59,000 --> 03:03:03,000
this isn't a car what am I in right now so the price

2690
03:03:03,000 --> 03:03:07,000
range is 100 to 140

2691
03:03:07,000 --> 03:03:11,000
for this and look I'll be honest with you guys

2692
03:03:11,000 --> 03:03:15,000
I've never even sat in a ghost I've never I've never sat in a Rolls-Royce

2693
03:03:15,000 --> 03:03:19,000
but to my ignorant you know

2694
03:03:19,000 --> 03:03:23,000
unrefined buttock

2695
03:03:25,000 --> 03:03:29,000
I'm looking at this I'm looking at this thing going

2696
03:03:29,000 --> 03:03:33,000
how is it realistically going to get way beyond

2697
03:03:33,000 --> 03:03:37,000
this thing this would be the pinnacle

2698
03:03:37,000 --> 03:03:41,000
of luxury to most people some of these pictures are nuts

2699
03:03:41,000 --> 03:03:45,000
yeah here let's see this is the

2700
03:03:45,000 --> 03:03:49,000
I can't make these bigger mic straw or whatever

2701
03:03:49,000 --> 03:03:53,000
I mean you can just zoom your browser just to give it the little two finger

2702
03:03:53,000 --> 03:03:57,000
you know what I'm saying oh yeah did I

2703
03:03:57,000 --> 03:04:01,000
oh yeah did I mention the starry sky in it has like different

2704
03:04:01,000 --> 03:04:05,000
modes it can twinkle it can do shooting stars

2705
03:04:05,000 --> 03:04:09,000
the starry sky feels like a rip a bit of a rip

2706
03:04:09,000 --> 03:04:13,000
huge huge screens

2707
03:04:13,000 --> 03:04:17,000
it's something that people do in Rolls-Royce though

2708
03:04:17,000 --> 03:04:21,000
that's what I'm saying I think it's a rip oh a rip off 100%

2709
03:04:21,000 --> 03:04:25,000
100% in the yeah those speakers in the chair

2710
03:04:25,000 --> 03:04:29,000
sure why not like it's it's loaded

2711
03:04:29,000 --> 03:04:33,000
for bear man wow

2712
03:04:35,000 --> 03:04:39,000
is this is this like the seat in front of them is gone

2713
03:04:39,000 --> 03:04:43,000
oh no it folds down yeah okay yeah that's wild

2714
03:04:43,000 --> 03:04:47,000
so you can get extremely comfy is this this is someone's

2715
03:04:47,000 --> 03:04:51,000
phone or is this the tablet thing you're talking that's the little tablet controller thing

2716
03:04:51,000 --> 03:04:55,000
so it's pretty wild dude

2717
03:04:55,000 --> 03:04:59,000
oh yeah it has the airplane table fold out thing I forgot about that

2718
03:04:59,000 --> 03:05:03,000
no no on the left yeah so you have a little table at both of the

2719
03:05:03,000 --> 03:05:07,000
back seats laptop or whatever yep or you can eat or you're

2720
03:05:07,000 --> 03:05:11,000
swishky trunk yep

2721
03:05:11,000 --> 03:05:13,000
trunk

2722
03:05:15,000 --> 03:05:17,000
what is this

2723
03:05:18,000 --> 03:05:20,000
I think they're trying to show matrix headlamps

2724
03:05:23,000 --> 03:05:25,000
no I don't think so

2725
03:05:28,000 --> 03:05:30,000
interesting

2726
03:05:32,000 --> 03:05:34,000
yeah

2727
03:05:36,000 --> 03:05:39,000
huh all right it's available in multiple options

2728
03:05:39,000 --> 03:05:43,000
okay yep all right anyway

2729
03:05:43,000 --> 03:05:47,000
very interesting it's uh

2730
03:05:47,000 --> 03:05:51,000
I had I I had been you know reading about

2731
03:05:51,000 --> 03:05:55,000
following from a distance so that are a cyber truck right

2732
03:05:55,000 --> 03:05:59,000
like seriously though yeah I

2733
03:05:59,000 --> 03:06:03,000
I don't think that would make an insane splash

2734
03:06:03,000 --> 03:06:07,000
I don't think that would make as insane of a splash in the North American market that people might

2735
03:06:07,000 --> 03:06:11,000
think they're gonna need a good truck

2736
03:06:11,000 --> 03:06:15,000
oh yeah apparently BYD's truck is like 35k or something like that

2737
03:06:15,000 --> 03:06:19,000
see like that might make a bigger splash because you've got to fight the f-150

2738
03:06:19,000 --> 03:06:23,000
there's no like there's no ignoring the f-150 and trying to enter

2739
03:06:23,000 --> 03:06:27,000
the North American market heck no so yeah

2740
03:06:27,000 --> 03:06:31,000
and that's still gonna be it's BYD so I'm assuming that's an electric truck still

2741
03:06:31,000 --> 03:06:35,000
I think it's a hybrid yeah it's it's no good 63

2742
03:06:35,000 --> 03:06:39,000
their Ford Ranger size pickup with a one cylinder

2743
03:06:39,000 --> 03:06:43,000
allows up to 500 miles of range and is 35,000 US dollars

2744
03:06:43,000 --> 03:06:47,000
yeah see that'll be that's a more interesting fight

2745
03:06:47,000 --> 03:06:51,000
in my opinion yeah opcode says how does it compare to your

2746
03:06:51,000 --> 03:06:55,000
Taycan in terms of quality it's a very different

2747
03:06:55,000 --> 03:06:59,000
car like it's not it's not intended to

2748
03:06:59,000 --> 03:07:03,000
compete with a Taycan it's a floating couch yeah

2749
03:07:03,000 --> 03:07:07,000
whisks you from location to location the Taycan is meant to be driven

2750
03:07:07,000 --> 03:07:11,000
whereas the Mike show is intended to be driven

2751
03:07:11,000 --> 03:07:15,000
around in right so it's totally different the Mike shows a

2752
03:07:15,000 --> 03:07:19,000
snuggie in the Taycans like a running shoe yeah

2753
03:07:19,000 --> 03:07:23,000
terrible analogies in terms of like like the fit and finish

2754
03:07:23,000 --> 03:07:27,000
of it though I'll be honest with you I didn't look that closely because I was too

2755
03:07:27,000 --> 03:07:31,000
busy being impressed by the sum of the parts rather than the

2756
03:07:31,000 --> 03:07:35,000
individual parts sure if we were doing like a full review or something like that

2757
03:07:35,000 --> 03:07:39,000
that would be a different story but nothing stood out to me as being junkie I can tell you

2758
03:07:39,000 --> 03:07:43,000
that much for sure oh shoot I have

2759
03:07:43,000 --> 03:07:47,000
to go pretty quick because I have to take my kids surprise you're still here

2760
03:07:47,000 --> 03:07:51,000
trick or treating no no I'm good we're done the topics we're done the topics

2761
03:07:51,000 --> 03:07:55,000
we haven't done F.P. announcement merch massages our most

2762
03:07:55,000 --> 03:07:59,000
successful Floatplane video ever was when LMG employees

2763
03:07:59,000 --> 03:08:03,000
shared their first memories of meeting me

2764
03:08:03,000 --> 03:08:07,000
oh wow yep that's a pretty strong

2765
03:08:07,000 --> 03:08:11,000
like dislike ratio um so we made a sequel

2766
03:08:11,000 --> 03:08:15,000
featuring Yvonne Colton and Plouf who owns a

2767
03:08:15,000 --> 03:08:19,000
display and more oh and yes there will be a video

2768
03:08:19,000 --> 03:08:23,000
of me reacting to the sequel in November oh good I haven't done that yet but apparently

2769
03:08:23,000 --> 03:08:27,000
we're going to be doing that so get some laughs and maybe a little bit of

2770
03:08:27,000 --> 03:08:31,000
secondhand embarrassment at LMG.GG slash Floatplane

2771
03:08:31,000 --> 03:08:35,000
excellent alright Dan should we do a couple merch messages?

2772
03:08:35,000 --> 03:08:39,000
sounds good to me hit me sure let's see why does it seem

2773
03:08:39,000 --> 03:08:43,000
like every tech tuber praises the 9070 9070

2774
03:08:43,000 --> 03:08:47,000
XT on camera and FSR4 yada yada but off camera

2775
03:08:47,000 --> 03:08:51,000
they're all running NVIDIA GPUs feels like a bit of do as I say not as I do

2776
03:08:51,000 --> 03:08:55,000
I I'm running a 7900

2777
03:08:55,000 --> 03:08:59,000
XTX let the record show so I don't know

2778
03:08:59,000 --> 03:09:03,000
in my opinion when praise is happening they're often probably talking about

2779
03:09:03,000 --> 03:09:07,000
price performance and then they can have whatever they want so they take the

2780
03:09:07,000 --> 03:09:11,000
performance and do not care about the price that's the answer

2781
03:09:11,000 --> 03:09:15,000
that's the real answer the only reason I'm running a 7900 XTX

2782
03:09:15,000 --> 03:09:19,000
is because I committed to skipping the 40 series

2783
03:09:19,000 --> 03:09:23,000
um and otherwise I would have just run

2784
03:09:23,000 --> 03:09:27,000
a 4090 greetings DLL

2785
03:09:27,000 --> 03:09:31,000
Linus with the Canadian post strike why does creator warehouse

2786
03:09:31,000 --> 03:09:35,000
still ship to PO boxes when the LTT Store site says to avoid them

2787
03:09:35,000 --> 03:09:39,000
I use my street address but the merch still comes Canada post

2788
03:09:41,000 --> 03:09:45,000
wow what a tremendous question for creator warehouse customer service

2789
03:09:45,000 --> 03:09:49,000
I think you should send them a message and maybe they

2790
03:09:49,000 --> 03:09:53,000
can explain that I have no idea I want to shout out

2791
03:09:53,000 --> 03:09:57,000
our amazing CW team Tony and Dave

2792
03:09:57,000 --> 03:10:01,000
and Adam and the rest of the customer care team and Taryn

2793
03:10:01,000 --> 03:10:05,000
and everyone who has worked really hard on you know resolving

2794
03:10:05,000 --> 03:10:09,000
the challenging logistics situation that has taken place

2795
03:10:09,000 --> 03:10:13,000
this year we've had to deal with tariffs from our southern neighbors we've had to deal with tariffs

2796
03:10:13,000 --> 03:10:17,000
from our manufacturing neighbors we've had to deal with flipping

2797
03:10:17,000 --> 03:10:21,000
the strike from Canada post we've had a lot of multiple times I think we've had a lot of

2798
03:10:21,000 --> 03:10:25,000
on our plate this year and our team has done an amazing job of figuring

2799
03:10:25,000 --> 03:10:29,000
out how to get your thing to you and shout out them and if you want the specifics

2800
03:10:29,000 --> 03:10:31,000
you'll have to ask them because they're the experts

2801
03:10:33,000 --> 03:10:37,000
what an answer good answer this guy's been doing this for a little bit professional

2802
03:10:37,000 --> 03:10:41,000
what a guy this one I wasn't too sure about maybe you could help me

2803
03:10:41,000 --> 03:10:45,000
parse it started an RE photo comp with a few family

2804
03:10:45,000 --> 03:10:49,000
members and have hit 30 in revenue and we

2805
03:10:49,000 --> 03:10:53,000
are trying to learn to scale fast and trying to figure out the best route

2806
03:10:53,000 --> 03:10:57,000
is pacing ourselves or just spamming the phone

2807
03:10:57,000 --> 03:11:01,000
thanks a photo comp

2808
03:11:01,000 --> 03:11:05,000
photo competition few family members RE

2809
03:11:05,000 --> 03:11:09,000
I'm not sure 30 in REV 30 K I'm assuming

2810
03:11:11,000 --> 03:11:15,000
maybe they're hosting a competition maybe you have to pay to enter the competition spamming the phone

2811
03:11:15,000 --> 03:11:17,000
that I don't know

2812
03:11:19,000 --> 03:11:23,000
okay nobody else understands what they're talking about either RE

2813
03:11:23,000 --> 03:11:27,000
photo comp started RE photo comp

2814
03:11:31,000 --> 03:11:35,000
next okay yeah sorry I was struggling to genuinely

2815
03:11:35,000 --> 03:11:39,000
tried hey DLL question for Linus how's the new winter jacket coming

2816
03:11:39,000 --> 03:11:41,000
along real estate photo company

2817
03:11:43,000 --> 03:11:47,000
oh my god I real estate no no no no no

2818
03:11:47,000 --> 03:11:51,000
Imperator in full plane chat said real estate that makes so much more sense real estate photo

2819
03:11:51,000 --> 03:11:55,000
company they hit 30 K in revenue they something something

2820
03:11:55,000 --> 03:11:59,000
or just spamming photos on a phone what was the other thing they were saying hitting the phone I think they

2821
03:11:59,000 --> 03:12:03,000
were looking how to scale fast right they wanted to scale up and

2822
03:12:03,000 --> 03:12:07,000
they weren't sure how to do that without just like hitting the phone which is probably

2823
03:12:07,000 --> 03:12:11,000
more like cold calling pacing ourselves or just spamming

2824
03:12:11,000 --> 03:12:15,000
the phone spamming the phone cold calling he's probably right

2825
03:12:15,000 --> 03:12:19,000
why this is a I mean it's gonna be all networking in that industry

2826
03:12:19,000 --> 03:12:23,000
like it's all old boys club so to speak

2827
03:12:23,000 --> 03:12:27,000
so you definitely want to make connections and everything else is

2828
03:12:27,000 --> 03:12:31,000
kind of secondary honestly as someone who's looked through real estate listings

2829
03:12:33,000 --> 03:12:37,000
man almost their photos terrible learn how to do HDR

2830
03:12:37,000 --> 03:12:41,000
better than like 90% of everybody and you're fine

2831
03:12:41,000 --> 03:12:45,000
there's some actually really good is not a high bar there is a lot of really good

2832
03:12:45,000 --> 03:12:49,000
YouTube tutorials but if you've already got 30 K in revenue you're fine

2833
03:12:49,000 --> 03:12:53,000
you know what you're doing yeah keep it up Congrats on

2834
03:12:53,000 --> 03:12:57,000
on growing it at a staging company keep it up

2835
03:12:57,000 --> 03:13:01,000
yeah staging is makes such a big difference or do okay so yeah probably

2836
03:13:01,000 --> 03:13:05,000
but a bunch of people are doing people are gonna like this but

2837
03:13:05,000 --> 03:13:09,000
like AI staging stuff lately it is actually very

2838
03:13:09,000 --> 03:13:13,000
surprisingly good because you can see the photo of the room empty and the photo

2839
03:13:13,000 --> 03:13:17,000
of the room with stuff in it and it's cool being able to see both idea

2840
03:13:17,000 --> 03:13:21,000
um new winter jacket

2841
03:13:21,000 --> 03:13:25,000
oh okay you'll have to do another one while I look

2842
03:13:25,000 --> 03:13:29,000
that up um

2843
03:13:29,000 --> 03:13:33,000
hi dll are you aware of

2844
03:13:33,000 --> 03:13:37,000
the development of 3d printed medication and the potential for multiple prescriptions to be

2845
03:13:37,000 --> 03:13:41,000
combined into one pill and you have thoughts about it

2846
03:13:41,000 --> 03:13:45,000
how does that make any sense why would you 3d print them

2847
03:13:45,000 --> 03:13:49,000
well maybe because you want like different release schedules or whatever

2848
03:13:49,000 --> 03:13:53,000
because like you know they can have different coatings and they can have different like capsules

2849
03:13:53,000 --> 03:13:57,000
and stuff that release at different times but why would you want to 3d print that

2850
03:13:57,000 --> 03:14:01,000
I don't know maybe it's more maybe it's like helps with the

2851
03:14:01,000 --> 03:14:05,000
complexity how do you ensure they're mixed properly

2852
03:14:05,000 --> 03:14:09,000
I don't know I don't know I'm not a doctor I'm just saying I like 3d printing

2853
03:14:09,000 --> 03:14:13,000
don't wait really

2854
03:14:13,000 --> 03:14:17,000
someone needs to clip that we need to clip that dad we need that clip

2855
03:14:17,000 --> 03:14:21,000
he knows what I mean yeah

2856
03:14:21,000 --> 03:14:25,000
I was in a couple time stamps uh

2857
03:14:25,000 --> 03:14:29,000
thermochromic jacket is expected to hit in

2858
03:14:29,000 --> 03:14:33,000
November so soon

2859
03:14:33,000 --> 03:14:37,000
but I don't want to nail down an exact week because things happen sometimes

2860
03:14:37,000 --> 03:14:41,000
but that's when it's expected hi LLD looking for

2861
03:14:41,000 --> 03:14:45,000
advice moving to rural Australia for work in the next

2862
03:14:45,000 --> 03:14:49,000
25 52 weeks steam deck versus xbox

2863
03:14:49,000 --> 03:14:53,000
ally versus laptop reviews seem to indicate ally x is under cooked

2864
03:14:53,000 --> 03:14:57,000
my friends use xbox online

2865
03:14:57,000 --> 03:15:01,000
I mean but these are all PCs the steam deck

2866
03:15:01,000 --> 03:15:05,000
with xbox online question mark

2867
03:15:05,000 --> 03:15:09,000
um I mean the laptop

2868
03:15:09,000 --> 03:15:13,000
if you can only have one the laptop has the most utility if you can get

2869
03:15:13,000 --> 03:15:17,000
one that supports a I don't think this one supports it but like like a

2870
03:15:17,000 --> 03:15:21,000
tent mode you know where it folds the other way and you can just

2871
03:15:21,000 --> 03:15:25,000
put it like this but with the screen on the outside very nice on a thing

2872
03:15:25,000 --> 03:15:29,000
with a controller that's pretty sick like if you can only have one I'd want the one that has

2873
03:15:29,000 --> 03:15:33,000
a keyboard I'm also personally leaning laptop but I

2874
03:15:33,000 --> 03:15:37,000
didn't answer right away because I don't have either the other ones so I'm a little bit

2875
03:15:37,000 --> 03:15:41,000
biased here yeah

2876
03:15:41,000 --> 03:15:45,000
and I don't know how much like a Strix Halo laptop costs this

2877
03:15:45,000 --> 03:15:49,000
this HP one my understanding is pretty

2878
03:15:49,000 --> 03:15:51,000
pretty expensive

2879
03:15:55,000 --> 03:15:59,000
it is true like the the steam deck is going to be

2880
03:15:59,000 --> 03:16:03,000
by far the cheapest option like one of the issues this question is you're asking

2881
03:16:03,000 --> 03:16:07,000
an insane variety in price

2882
03:16:07,000 --> 03:16:11,000
yeah I mean the steam deck is the best bank for the buck that's the easiest one to recommend but

2883
03:16:11,000 --> 03:16:15,000
as for the ally xbox ally x whatever stupid

2884
03:16:15,000 --> 03:16:19,000
thing is called also do you need to do more stuff on it it's it's

2885
03:16:19,000 --> 03:16:23,000
it's pretty good like I don't know what to tell you it's um

2886
03:16:23,000 --> 03:16:27,000
I think people are just frustrated because Microsoft sold it as something that it

2887
03:16:27,000 --> 03:16:31,000
wasn't as a small computer that's pretty

2888
03:16:31,000 --> 03:16:35,000
d's it's great yeah that's not the last question

2889
03:16:35,000 --> 03:16:39,000
maybe more of a general question my work has

2890
03:16:39,000 --> 03:16:43,000
a stupid new no graphic tease policy but the text isn't

2891
03:16:43,000 --> 03:16:47,000
banned we make a shirt that says shirt in giant text on it

2892
03:16:47,000 --> 03:16:51,000
how does that fit in with like your branding or your like

2893
03:16:51,000 --> 03:16:55,000
is that something that you would ever do or do you want to make like cool stuff

2894
03:16:55,000 --> 03:16:59,000
because like shirt that says in giant text is like

2895
03:16:59,000 --> 03:17:03,000
kind of my aesthetic in a way I love that type of stuff

2896
03:17:05,000 --> 03:17:09,000
okay pondering I mean do enough of you want this like is

2897
03:17:09,000 --> 03:17:13,000
that a thing I figured yeah can you make ASCII images that's

2898
03:17:13,000 --> 03:17:17,000
just text see that that sort of tickles my malicious compliance

2899
03:17:17,000 --> 03:17:21,000
but that's fantastic a lot more than the other one does it kind of made me think

2900
03:17:21,000 --> 03:17:25,000
of the the no-name brand like merch products that they do

2901
03:17:25,000 --> 03:17:29,000
we'll tell you what we'll do the ASCII one ASCII sounds like a cool idea

2902
03:17:29,000 --> 03:17:33,000
I like an ASCII art shirt I like that idea yeah thanks Amaria that sounds like a great point

2903
03:17:33,000 --> 03:17:37,000
okay could do I send this too okay I'll

2904
03:17:37,000 --> 03:17:41,000
the next time we do a Linux challenge we should both be required to

2905
03:17:43,000 --> 03:17:47,000
make a cool little you know

2906
03:17:49,000 --> 03:17:53,000
can I use the term to rice it out in a really cool way

2907
03:17:53,000 --> 03:17:57,000
that is the official term that is what people call it I'm just saying sure

2908
03:17:57,000 --> 03:18:01,000
we'll go with that and there is cool stuff that they do with ASCII art in that

2909
03:18:01,000 --> 03:18:05,000
process and we should we should do that that should be part of it

2910
03:18:05,000 --> 03:18:09,000
whatever leave me alone I don't know what else to call it

2911
03:18:09,000 --> 03:18:13,000
modify yeah but it doesn't

2912
03:18:13,000 --> 03:18:17,000
it doesn't encapsulate the that's true whatever

2913
03:18:17,000 --> 03:18:21,000
whatever you've been waiting for a turn yeah I have been waiting

2914
03:18:21,000 --> 03:18:25,000
so long for this to come back they have bought the northern lights

2915
03:18:25,000 --> 03:18:29,000
t-shirt tall yeah thank you for doing tall graphics

2916
03:18:29,000 --> 03:18:33,000
is this our first tall graphic and it's like five of them or something

2917
03:18:33,000 --> 03:18:37,000
that's actually very exciting I need to order them immediately

2918
03:18:37,000 --> 03:18:41,000
yeah I've been waiting so long for this to come back

2919
03:18:41,000 --> 03:18:45,000
what is the oldest used hardware you'd recommend picking up right now

2920
03:18:45,000 --> 03:18:49,000
oh man it depends on what you're trying to do I mean

2921
03:18:49,000 --> 03:18:53,000
open ended my uncle

2922
03:18:53,000 --> 03:18:57,000
needed a laptop with a CD ROM drive in it

2923
03:18:57,000 --> 03:19:01,000
and so we just grabbed some

2924
03:19:01,000 --> 03:19:05,000
like vista machine and

2925
03:19:05,000 --> 03:19:09,000
it will never be connected to a network so it doesn't matter because it's for

2926
03:19:09,000 --> 03:19:13,000
loading data from some CD

2927
03:19:13,000 --> 03:19:17,000
resource into some computer and it has to like live there because it has to be

2928
03:19:17,000 --> 03:19:21,000
used periodically and connected to that thing

2929
03:19:21,000 --> 03:19:25,000
and it's just like well that's the oldest hardware that I'd recommend for that

2930
03:19:25,000 --> 03:19:29,000
it just depends on what you're trying to do running a Windows XP machine today

2931
03:19:29,000 --> 03:19:33,000
if it was completely offline it's totally fine tons of them still work that way

2932
03:19:33,000 --> 03:19:37,000
in terms of what I would actually connect to the internet I would want something that is modern enough

2933
03:19:37,000 --> 03:19:41,000
to run an operating system that's still getting updates if it's Windows that means not that old

2934
03:19:41,000 --> 03:19:45,000
but if it's Linux go ham nice

2935
03:19:47,000 --> 03:19:51,000
dynastook and lan do sponsors pay extra for Riley to do

2936
03:19:51,000 --> 03:19:55,000
his amazing singing ad spots or does he do them just because he can

2937
03:19:55,000 --> 03:19:59,000
yes both of those things

2938
03:19:59,000 --> 03:20:03,000
he's kind of been a bit of a spiritual successor for what

2939
03:20:03,000 --> 03:20:07,000
Dennis was doing with what we call CSPs or creative

2940
03:20:07,000 --> 03:20:11,000
sponsor placements or something like that I forget what it's short for but

2941
03:20:11,000 --> 03:20:15,000
it was CSR creative sponsor reads but then

2942
03:20:15,000 --> 03:20:19,000
I was like that sounds too close to customer service representative and I'm never going to know what you're talking about

2943
03:20:19,000 --> 03:20:23,000
so we changed it to CSP and it is something

2944
03:20:23,000 --> 03:20:27,000
that sponsors can pay extra for and we do show them hey there's increased

2945
03:20:27,000 --> 03:20:31,000
retention there's increased click through like there's all these

2946
03:20:31,000 --> 03:20:35,000
benefits you should probably do this I have had two merge messages this evening

2947
03:20:35,000 --> 03:20:39,000
asking for a compilation I could see that being

2948
03:20:39,000 --> 03:20:43,000
something we might do on the clips channel at some point but yeah I know he's been

2949
03:20:43,000 --> 03:20:47,000
killing it cannot say

2950
03:20:47,000 --> 03:20:51,000
enough how impressed I have been with Riley's

2951
03:20:51,000 --> 03:20:55,000
work on that I am blown away not just Riley it's a team effort

2952
03:20:55,000 --> 03:20:59,000
it's not just Riley they have to be they have to be shot and edited and stuff

2953
03:20:59,000 --> 03:21:03,000
but like massive shout out to the team

2954
03:21:03,000 --> 03:21:07,000
so cool spin nuts last one I got for you today

2955
03:21:07,000 --> 03:21:11,000
good evening Linus, Luke and Dan what wireless technology do you think might

2956
03:21:11,000 --> 03:21:15,000
compete or replace Bluetooth do you think RF headphones would ever make a comeback

2957
03:21:15,000 --> 03:21:19,000
whatever happened to li-fi oh

2958
03:21:19,000 --> 03:21:23,000
I don't know man I mean there's only so much spectrum like it's one of those things where it's like

2959
03:21:23,000 --> 03:21:27,000
man what new continents do you think we could discover

2960
03:21:27,000 --> 03:21:31,000
you know over the last thousand years we've just western civilization

2961
03:21:31,000 --> 03:21:35,000
has discovered a continent at approximately a rate of one every 200 years

2962
03:21:35,000 --> 03:21:39,000
you know well like yeah okay

2963
03:21:39,000 --> 03:21:43,000
but here's a really controversial take

2964
03:21:43,000 --> 03:21:47,000
modern BTLE

2965
03:21:47,000 --> 03:21:51,000
pretty good there's more that could be done for user friendliness

2966
03:21:51,000 --> 03:21:55,000
but like why can't I have multi-channel with good audio

2967
03:21:55,000 --> 03:21:59,000
and a mic at the same time in current year

2968
03:21:59,000 --> 03:22:03,000
I am upset I agree with that

2969
03:22:03,000 --> 03:22:07,000
but it's still bluetooth you could just make bluetooth less garbage

2970
03:22:07,000 --> 03:22:11,000
and they are dual stream like bluetooth is continuing to get betterer

2971
03:22:11,000 --> 03:22:15,000
and I mean as far as I can tell the major constraint

2972
03:22:15,000 --> 03:22:19,000
is just that we all want it to be cheap if you could do 2.4GHz

2973
03:22:19,000 --> 03:22:23,000
communication expensively well it would be

2974
03:22:23,000 --> 03:22:27,000
better look at all the 2.4GHz dongles that exist that are

2975
03:22:27,000 --> 03:22:31,000
better than bluetooth but we want it to be low power we want it to be cheap

2976
03:22:31,000 --> 03:22:35,000
and we want it to have good range and we want it to have

2977
03:22:35,000 --> 03:22:39,000
a wide data path and we want it to have all these things

2978
03:22:39,000 --> 03:22:43,000
and it's like well look in the real world you don't get everything

2979
03:22:43,000 --> 03:22:47,000
so wait I think it will continue

2980
03:22:47,000 --> 03:22:51,000
to get better as for li-fi that's a good question I would love to know what happened to li-fi

2981
03:22:51,000 --> 03:22:55,000
and I was lying there's one more Linus you mentioned you still occasionally play halo infinite

2982
03:22:55,000 --> 03:22:59,000
do you prefer 4v4 modes or big team battle halo isn't halo to me

2983
03:22:59,000 --> 03:23:03,000
what about vehicles and at least 8 vs 8 I generally play 4v4

2984
03:23:03,000 --> 03:23:07,000
I find big team battle a little too chaotic for my boomer brain

2985
03:23:09,000 --> 03:23:13,000
that's all I got my apologies

2986
03:23:21,000 --> 03:23:25,000
thanks for tuning into the WAN Show we'll see you again next week same bad time same bad channel

2987
03:23:25,000 --> 03:23:29,000
I would have just stayed there I would have waited

2988
03:23:29,000 --> 03:23:33,000
I know I gotta go though he gave up early oh yeah bye

2989
03:23:45,000 --> 03:23:47,000
who knows

2990
03:23:57,000 --> 03:23:59,000
you