Like, if anything, I think one year is not enough.
Yeah. Um, yeah, yeah, no, I got you, I got you.
I do know that it's been, I've heard that it's been misused in the past,
where like parents might have a picture of their kid, but it was just like kids playing in the bath.
Oh, I see. Traditional like actually innocent stuff.
Right. Stuff. Got it.
But in my opinion, that just it either shouldn't be criminal or it should be very criminal.
Yeah. I don't know.
Cool. Good chat. Um, Lucas allowed hats.
Oh, unique username. Got it. You look like Duke.
That's his costume. His costume is Duke.
Just one person identified it correctly. So that works for me.
And my costume is Sammy.
Here, check it out. I'm dressed up as Sammy.
Wait, where'd Sammy go?
I'm Linus. I hate iPhones.
And I use the AirPods, even though I hate iPhone.
I use AirPods and I don't like iPhones.
Well, it's not that I don't like iPhones.
Sorry. I'm Linus and I hate iPhones.
You went deeper. Yeah. Deeper is definitely not the way.
I'm Linus and I hate iPhones. Okay. Now you sound like picking up.
And this segment, who are sponsored?
Well, anyhow, we should probably do the Wansho.
Okay. Do you know, you know, I'm not sure the Wansho, right?
It's welcome. To the Wansho. Wansho.
We got some great topics here. Luke, what topic are you most interested in?
No, no, no, no, no, no. You pull a dick move and you pick the first two.
Oh, okay. Every time. And then you hunt for the one that you think I probably want to say.
I haven't looked at any topics.
Oh, my God. Okay. I'm like stuck halfway through, but then we're just going to go with it, you know.
They're already done. Did you do the thing? Did you talk to AJ?
I want that to be a priority like soon.
Share with the headset.
Wait, he didn't respond?
I will look into this. I will look into this.
Am I short on Linus? I feel like I'm short on Linus.
Wait, I feel like I look so much shorter.
My torso is a normal height. It's my legs that are short.
So maybe it's the other way for you. It could be.
I don't think, I don't think we're the same height. I think I'm slightly taller.
I don't know. What? What?
It feels similar.
No, you say no, you look taller.
You should say that. You should say no. You look taller.
No. Listen, I'm an average height.
I'm the average age and male height.
Okay. Wait, I got like topics.
Sorry. I have to read this.
Now you're sounding just like Linus.
Okay. Okay. I got it.
I got it. Maybe.
Don't be like, welcome to the WAN Show. We got some great news topics for you today.
House robots are also here.
Whoa. Robots, Luke. How do you feel about that?
You're really making me feel really good at my job right now.
Wait, how would you do it? How would you do it?
A little bit more energy, man. A little bit more flow. Come on.
Welcome to the WAN Show, everybody.
We have some great news for you today.
House robots are coming to our homes, Luke.
Now I feel like I could be replaced too easily.
I'm putting my gain limiter through the paces there.
Was that too loud? Sorry. It was unironically a lot better.
Okay. Topics, though, not news. Topics lined up for you today.
We got some great topics lined up for you today. There you go.
I'm going to flub it. You know what? We're going to go with it because this is the multiverse.
Everything's a little different. Incompetent Linus. Yeah.
I'm incompetent Linus.
Worst timeline. I'm the worst timeline Linus.
It's, yeah. TikTok Star.
TikTok Star Linus multiverse.
I'm Linus if shorts came first before long form.
Yeah. There you go. YouTube came.
YouTube was 2012. TikTok 2004. Shout out Lisa.
She did my beard. She did power on my hair. Can you look at how my hair is lighter, actually?
A little bit. Yeah. We filmed a full plane about it.
I didn't originally, like in the camera, it doesn't look like that way at all.
But in person, I see it. Yeah. I only see it through cameras.
I haven't looked in the mirror yet. Oh, yeah. I'm too scared.
Well, I'll see. Why?
Why? I don't know. Maybe it'll be like.
You think you want a beard? Yeah, maybe. I do want a beard.
I do want a beard. It looks pretty good. I do want a beard.
I'm not genetically built like that. I want to get patches here and here. It looks weird.
So I have to shave it like every day. You know, like Naruto? It's like that.
I don't. Okay. My bad.
Sorry for speaking. Wow. I had to.
That's Luke. What? Welcome to the Rancho.
We've got some great topics signed up for you today.
Sorry. We got some great topics. Do it from the top.
Do it from the top. Pick two topics. Do it from the top.
All right. All right. This is a rehearsal rehearsal rehearsal rehearsal.
Are you actually doing the intro? Yeah. Oh my gosh.
I'm slightly nervous. Okay. Okay.
Okay. Welcome to the Rancho. We got a.
Oh, what? What? 80% do that.
80% I need. I need.
I need. I need notes. I need notes.
Is there a huge pause after welcome? I don't think so. You just rolls.
You guys this week. You were like, welcome to the Rancho.
Like it's like we're enjoying WWE or something.
Okay. Welcome to the Rancho, everybody.
We got some great topics lined up here for you today.
Luke, house robots are also a freak.
House robots are almost here. Oh, are they invading our houses and YouTube is making some changes.
Those always go well. Luke, what are some topics you're interested in?
The AMD is no longer updating some stuff and AMD is doing some other stuff.
That's crazy. Intro button. Where's the intro button?
Top. Right. I'll do it.
Okay. And then we'll flip it and we don't acknowledge it.
Yeah. Oh, do you mind if I completely not acknowledge it?
That's kind of funny if you don't acknowledge it. I think so. Yeah, I don't acknowledge it.
Is it just for the Floatplane audience, you know, the floaties? I don't know. Oh.
Right now. Yeah. And Twitch.
Oh. And Facebook. What?
Never do that. No, you've officially, no, you're not playing the role correct.
Not really. You don't acknowledge Twitch other than to insult them.
I'm the multiverse. You do not shout out to. No Linus in any of the versions.
This line is only like TikTok and Instagram. We used to be so friendly to Twitch.
And now it's just the breakup was not good.
It was a bad break. Except for we're still in relationship because we still stream there, I guess.
I want to get some subway. We like share a dog or something.
Sharing a dog. You should transfer it once a week. Yeah.
Yeah. A custody of the dog. Yeah.
Okay, so hold on. Sorry. Okay.
I'm so nervous. I don't know why I'm so nervous. This is like the lowest stakes, but I don't make so nervous.
You're fine. You're fine. It's like, welcome to the Wancho.
Do you want to rip it out? Do you want to do more? No, no, no.
You know what? I feel like if a flub is kind of funnier. Sure.
Yeah. Because then YouTube is like, what's going on? And then, you know, the floaties would be like, aha, I know.
I'm in the know. Yeah. I haven't read a chat.
I'm like so, dude, this mic is so, I think I am short of lines.
What the frick? It's like, I'm here, but he like, I'm like, it's like, you know, see, it's like hitting.
It's probably just the, the leg torso thing that he's talking about.
Like I, I, a pretty considerable amount of people think I'm taller than I am because
when I sit next to people, I tend to look quite like my seats a lot lower right now.
When I sit next to people, I tend to look really tall because my torso is really tall.
My legs are very short. Yeah.
Like my girlfriend can wear the same pants as me.
That's crazy. Because our legs are exactly the same length and I'm like over a foot taller than her.
It's all torso. I think I've met your girlfriend once.
Yeah. I think I have. Yeah.
She's like, I don't know. She's like not tall. Nope.
Yeah. She's pretty average. Sorry.
I got saved. You ready to do this thing? Yeah, dude.
Is that what Linus says? Yeah. I watched the show.
I watched the show. You ready to do this is like a pretty normal.
Yeah. Oh yes. Yes, I do.
House robot and the YouTube change. No, that's not.
No. Okay. Does he actually real fake real fake Linus real cookie Linus?
That's another thing you would, you would secretly have snacks somewhere.
I don't always have snacks. Like 70%.
I was thinking of eating a snack while you actually, it comes and goes.
It comes and goes. I was going to choose something while you do topics, but are white choosing topics,
but I was like, I think it's going to be bad for audio. So yeah, I didn't suggest it.
I'm tired of being kind of. Seriously, every goddamn time I use it, I'm kind of.
We're hoping to push a full plane update soon. That should more or less solve that for full plane.
Was it already pushed? It might already be pushed.
Sorry. So do you actually, not all you're an admin.
If you want, we can make you a non admin account, but that won't actually work.
So we give you access to things that are admin accounts. So yeah, basically just get, get fricking wrecked.
My Microsoft account. I'm going to have to go sign into my key for account on my phone to get my Microsoft.
Stupid. It's actually driving me insane.
Yep. I have a question. Do you actually want, do you actually care?
Do you actually want those to be the topics that you mentioned?
Okay. Whichever ones you think. Oh, okay.
That is, that is. The ones Luke wants are too wordy and I'm going to flub it.
So I'm just, I'm choosing the ones. I think I have, I have good, uh, I can shorten it better.
See, in this multiverse, I'm, uh, this Linus is very, um, considerate of Luke's desires
for topics. Sounds fake. You can, you can do the Nintendo one because it talks about Pokemon.
You like Pokemon, right? Oh yeah. Just make sure someone does the headline.
Yeah. Okay. Well, you know, I, uh, on the over the weekend, I was with, uh, it was me, Artie, Ariana,
Belle, and Ash from the cable management, uh, video that we did.
Okay. We opened a bunch of packs. I think it was like 300 packs between all five of us.
That's, uh, it sounds laborious. I lost a lot of money that day.
You know, Belle? Oh my God. Okay.
I got a rant. Okay. I got a lot of cards.
Every, and he's opened it three times. And three times he hit, he's hit the most like the best cards.
I get, I'm like, that should be me.
I'm happy for him, but I'm like, that should be me.
Gambling. It's just gambling. It's legal gambling.
I'm running into this kind of stuff so often.
I'm on here. I'm going to read chat while you guys are talking.
So I log in. Why are you doing this the wrong way?
Why are you doing it the wrong way? So there's my thing.
I am now logged in. Right?
Cool. Am I logged in?
Not to the browser extension.
Well, why didn't it work?
Literally reloads this page. Why would it do that? I don't know.
I've never experienced this, but log into the extension.
Why would it give me a prompt that doesn't work? Why is this not working?
I'm actually going to lose it over all my multi-factor crap
not working. No one else has ever reported this ever.
I think you need to get rid of your extension and get another one,
because I've never seen that just not work. Seriously, last night I was trying to do WAN topics,
and I couldn't log into, I forget, something.
I was just in a stupid loop like this. I can't deal with this.
I need everything to just go back to two-factor or something,
because I cannot deal with this.
So how's everyone's day? My day was good.
It's a makeup. They got a lot of work done.
We got a custom PC we did a short for.
That was fun. It's pretty cool.
It doesn't matter. I can just copy-paste it from the...
But now you need to get your extension back again.
Oh, you deleted my... Yeah, of course, it wasn't working.
It takes like three seconds to get it back. I could have done it if you didn't take the laptop.
You know when your friends are fighting? Also, you need to report this stuff,
instead of just crashing out about it forever. So when you have two friends fighting,
just like in the corners, dang, they're awkwardly. This is what it feels like right now.
That's what it felt like.
Why are TabKeeper, TimeKeeper, and ColorKeeper
the only hours complete, instead of just Keeper?
I'm searching for literally Keeper. You think it's funnier that Fathi's off camera
and yelling like this? Oh, yeah, sure.
There's another Keeper around your bookkeeping business.
Keeper Bookkeeping. It makes sense. Keeper.
Like BookKeeper. Keeper, I barely know her.
Ding it, ding it. Yay!
Dopamine is flowing. He's never gonna open the Pokemon card back again.
It's like a check-off dog. Just say check-off dog.
I knew what he meant. Wait, no, wait, is that wrong?
I knew what he meant. Is that wrong?
Check-off dog, sorry. Just keep saying check-off dog.
Check-off gun, sorry. Check-off is Star Trek.
Like Anakin Skywalker? Sorry, I just made everyone mad.
Sorry, sorry. You're not sorry.
Guys, I know what Star Wars is.
I'll take another sci-fi one. It's taking me to a project thing.
Yeah, well, it sucks to suck. I swear to God,
I have an impromptu topic. For which?
For my Keeper 2 update. Never had it happen.
I have an impromptu topic. Actually, that's not true.
It literally prompts me every single time. I think it's supposed to for admins.
Is there even a checkbox to do it every 30 days for a Keeper? For admins, yes.
For admins, yes, there's a checkbox? Why would we have a checkbox
in order to be evil? Sorry.
It's a dropdown, not a checkbox. Yeah.
But I think if you're switching between devices, it will...
I have an impromptu topic. What's up?
I switched to an iPhone after being an Android user. How was it?
Nice. It's very confusing.
I got used to it. I tried AirDrop, but like whoa.
Android phones have been feeling not good
for a while. Especially as a pixel boy.
I really don't want to switch to Samsung. I do not like the Samsung experience.
So I've been thinking like do I finally need to jump over?
And then every time I use an iPhone, I'm like ugh, no.
But I don't... It's hard to tell do I actually dislike
the experience or is it just strange?
Because I've used Android for so long.
I think the hurdle was the back button. Because when you YouTube me,
it goes like the 16 by 9. And then we try to leave it.
You click the back button for iPhone. I don't have...
I don't do buttons. I do gestures. What?
Yeah, I'm a gesture guy. And it goes away?
No. Like back, no.
I just swipe in from the side and it goes back. What? You're doing the pretending
that you don't know what you're talking about. I know.
Rough. I know.
Never go full ignorant. I know for Instagram, there's like a tongue
gesture. I don't know. Someone figured out. There's like a whole gesture.
See I'm on that video. Okay.
What? That's it. Way easier. Do you have three button
gesture? Hold on. I got to open my office
application. Hold on.
What? What?
Swipe down from the top? Yeah, it's like this.
Swipe down from the... You can only swipe back from the right on Android.
On iOS, you have to do it from the left. Back?
No, it just goes away. It swipes back from the left on iOS?
Natural scrolling. Not very intuitive.
You want it to be on the left, unless you're left-handed.
Because that's the way Lord Jobs decreed it should be thusly done.
And you can go back on Android from either side.
I know, but you can't on iOS. See this is why I don't
really want to switch to the iPhone. Can you swap the three
button navigation backwards on iPhone?
Like long after Jobs died. Exactly.
I don't really... It smells like cookie right here.
Dinner. No, I'm just teasing.
Ghosts. I like cookies.
Luke, ready to do this thing? Oh, wait.
Yeah, I'm fine. It's welcome to the WAN Show.
We got loads. We got fun and games.
We got a lot of topics here for you today. Yeah, sure.
We got a lot of topics. Energy.
Energy and don't slow down. So it's not...
Welcome... Welcome to the WAN Show, everybody.
We got some exciting topics here for you today. And just don't stop.
Find a word to put there. Remember that Linus would make sure
that he fills as much airtime as possible. So just don't stop talking.
Until the intro goes. Linus, keep looking. I'm getting nervous.
You can also interrupt me? No, you have to.
How do I interrupt you? Just start talking over me.
Oh, okay. Wait, wait.
Do we want to say when we're swapping? He can't do it. He waits until you're done.
He's so nice. I'm the nice Linus.
I'm the considered Linus, you know? Okay, ready?
Are you ready to do this thing, Luke? We gotta hit it at some point.
Oh, my God. Are you going to signal him?
Yeah.
Welcome to the WAN Show, everybody. Oh, you looked at me.
Welcome to the WAN Show, everybody. We got lots of topics here for you today.
Luke, house robots are almost here. That's kind of crazy, no?
Yeah. And you two is bringing updates.
Surely that will go great, right? Probably not.
Also, we've got Mark Andreessen funding
AI-powered AstroTurfing because we needed more bad things
in the world, I guess. And Nintendo may have lost a key
patent in Japan. That's crazy.
You know what else is crazy? This is the intro from Noki.
Hmm. Hmm.
Hmm. The show was brought to you today by
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the WAN doc with you guys and enjoy all these wonderful topics. Yeah. Why don't we kick things right
off with the big YouTube news this week?
How do they manage to do this? It's almost like they try
to make the most unpopular possible decisions. I mean, we had that one
thing recently where I was like, oh, that seems pretty cool where they had the AI
powered likeness recognition so you could opt out of having
AI slop using your likeness all over the platform. That was cool. That seems pretty
cool. That seemed like objectively good. And then they followed up with
a triple whammy worth of updates and policy changes with
an AI super resolution upscaler
that's planned to be applied to all videos under 1080p
Oh, was it all videos or all live streams? Okay, I seem to remember
seeing an email about live streams, but this says videos, so that's interesting
as well as a crackdown on both violent video games
and gambling content. This expanded
crackdown, which goes into effect November 17th, is paired
with more stringent age verification will prohibit content
that directs viewers to online gambling sites which now includes digital goods
gambling like video game skins, cosmetics and NFTs, and YouTube
will also be age restricting casino style games without
real world monetary value.
Big G is also adding broader criteria for violent
video game content that will be age restricted such as scenes of torture
or mass violence against non-combatants. So this
is a whole bunch to unpack. Let's start with the stuff that I
wholeheartedly agree with. YouTube does not need
to direct people to online gambling sites. If anything, I think the professional
sports space could stand to learn a little bit from YouTube here.
Has YouTube not been taking advertising from gambling sites? See, they have, which is why
I'm finding the whole thing kind of confusing, so rules for thee and not for me.
Yeah. But can I just take this as a small
I don't think so. It's not really a win, is it? It really feels like maybe they're just trying
to take all the pie from gambling site funding.
Right. Right. But from which country? All of them.
Is it American Pie? Is it?
Also, I'm just recognizing that you don't have a Halloween costume
which is a Halloween costume because other people dressed up as you. So if you
dressed up in a Halloween costume, we'd actually kind of screw the whole thing up, which is like the most amazing
loophole ever. And I'm just, I think
very good. I went as a tech YouTuber.
There you go. Okay. Yeah.
And then so we've also got the bit where you're not allowed to direct viewers.
So yeah, you can't direct viewers to online gambling sites, which now includes
video game skins, cosmetics and NFTs. I mean,
oh man, how do we, okay, because I do,
I actually do support that because it was clear that nobody else
was going to do anything about it. And so it feels like
for YouTube to step in and go, yeah, no, you actually can't do that.
I like that. I also honestly really like the idea
of age-restricting casino-style games, even if they don't have real-world
monetary value. I do think that there's a level of extreme
that's not necessary. Like, I don't know if you remember this, but a little while back there was some
controversy around, like, even Pokemon Blue getting banned
somewhere because there was the casino. Has a casino in it.
Seems a little much. Yeah, that seems a little bit much. It's not a core mechanic.
If I remember correctly, I would just skip it every single time.
Yeah, because you lose all your money. Yeah. But like
in general, I think I've spoken extensively enough in the past
about my frustration with gambling mechanics being introduced
to children in everywhere from video games
to real-world settings. Like, the collectibles.
Yeah, happy meals, even arcades, right? Like, you think you're playing
a game of skill, what you're actually playing is a game of chance, and you are
putting in a whole bunch of money, then at the end you get a little dopamine rush, you know,
barrel of monkeys or whatever toy and you go, wow, I won!
But what you actually did was lose. Like, I've had to have that conversation with my kids
where they go, oh yeah, the best deal in the Castle Fun Park
prize bin is this or this. I'm like, actually the best deal
is if mommy and daddy had just spent the money that we spent on these gambling games
and just bought you a barrel of monkeys.
But of course, you know, that wouldn't have been as fun.
We just need to recognize it for what it is. Paying an amount of money
to have the amount of fun that was playing these games. The prize is not a prize,
it's a sucker prize. Which sometimes is a sucker
if you like lollies. Which could be alright. Candy!
Ooh. Ooh.
Ugh. Anyway,
does anybody know if
YouTube does allow gambling ads on the site?
I don't, I have YouTube premiums so I wouldn't really see stuff like that.
Yeah, me too. Do you get ads for like, I don't know
what's a gambling thing? Poker stars, is that still a thing? I have no idea.
I have no idea. What's one of the sports ones? Sports betting, I don't know.
What's, oh okay. Yeah, okay, in Sprel says
it's all gambling ads. Yeah. They've seen stake ads, seen draft kings,
oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, draft kings, okay, cool.
So yeah, man, this does feel a little bit rules for the and not
for me, but then again it is. Oh yeah, big time. It is...
Okay. If I can try to
I don't know, devil's advocate is at the right term for this. Yeah. If I can try to
vouch for them a little bit, which I don't actually think this is accurate, but if I can,
maybe they think at least that they can control the narrative
around their ads more, maybe they can target it to the right
people, the right people being adults. Maybe they think
that they can do that stuff a little bit better than creators just
being unable to because they're just blasting their video out there and then
you know what, I'm going to take this as a small win still then
because they could
they could get even more money because they could sell
gambling content target, hold up just a second, they could sell
gambling targeted gambling ads against gambling content
and there would be more money in it for them if they allowed that content
to go to the broadest possible audience versus if they restricted it in any way.
Extremely small W. I'm talking like
I'm talking like three three point
on an enlarged sheet of paper like on an industrial printer
but there is a tiny W in there
small W. I don't know because I think the gambling content
still happens because a lot of original back in the day style
and I'm sure this still happens creator monetization
was gambling sites giving people a ton of
money to gamble on their site
so it was like in a lot of cases undisclosed sponsorship
effectively and then actual just sponsorship. What they're
cracking down on is linking not making that content I believe
digital goods blah blah blah which will prohibit content that directs viewers to it
directs viewers but they will also age restrict casino style
games without real-world monetary value so it could still have
real-world monetary value if it was a real casino
and they're only actually restricting you from linking to it
so my interpretation
you can still make that content you just can't link to the site
that you're playing on
does it say link or direct it says directs
strength and approach I'm going to bring up the original source
prohibits content that directs viewers to online gambling sites
or applications that are not certified by Google so yeah it comes down to them
certified by Google is very different wording than what we had in the in the doc
including digital goods yep yep yep yep
social casino content okay
yeah yeah it's I gotta be honest with you
it's pretty it's pretty hand-wavy
it seems like there's a lot of room for interpretation
here which it's gonna have to be is in their defense
yeah it's pretty much what you have to do when you create site guidelines I mean
this is not a law right Google is not the law
and if you make it super specific people will just
work around it it happened to twitch and they just became a laughing stock
you like have to do it vaguely unfortunately
so we'll see what that actually turns into the violence NVIDIA game one is
interesting so that one I wanted to unpack a little bit separately
sure let's move on to it you know what you're right yep let's talk about I saw some speculation online
that this was preemptive for the GTA 6 launch
oh which actually yeah I had basically the same reaction
of like interesting because you know there's gonna be an insane flood
of content whether I mean it's probably gonna be good but rather the game is good
or not an incredible amount of people will play it and there will be an incredible amount of content
made about it yeah and a lot of it will probably include scenes of
doing things to NPCs that could constitute
well pretty much for mass violence against non-combatants yeah
honestly everything there will also be gambling
there will also be the skins there also be like literally everything in this update
will have something to do with GTA
oh that actually that actually makes a ton of sense
who knows but I saw that idea and it seemed super legit to me
it also could just be something that's been on the docket basically
forever and waiting for a quiet moment to just
kind of make these changes and and roll them out
I was not expecting this to ever happen and I gotta
tell you some of our content would fall under these
guidelines as potentially being age-gated which
is sort of a downer because this is the next section
what this means for you and your content content
uploaded before November 17th 2025 that violates these guidelines maybe
removed or age restricted but will not result in a strike
remember age restricted videos can stay on your channel
for 18 plus audiences
so I tend to what content do you think would get
whenever we fire up cyberpunk just as like a benchmark I tend
to play karma get in
because then I don't have to aim and we can just kind of
you know rip around in the city and and it attracts the police
which gives me an opportunity to get into a firefight like it just is it's kind of
it's not necessarily a scene of torture but it's definitely mass violence against non-combatants
yeah it really is isn't it see I always thought of them as just sort of digital
pixels I didn't really you know think it mattered
non-combatant yeah yeah um so this could
affect a not totally insignificant number of our older videos
you should you should find a like
generic clip of like some like
I don't know what's that there was some like terrible flash game back in the day
where you took care of like horses you just like brushed horses
you should get like footage of that it's like every every
time you go to carve again it's free it just like covers the screen with
YouTube YouTube appropriate content
yeah I don't know so you can make edits
YouTube does have their built-in
video editor tool you can use to trim or blur the footage
but you'd have to make any changes before November 17th
so we would have to find whatever videos have this we'd have to go in and I think realistically
I'm just gonna not bother and then anything that they flag on us
we're just going to appeal and then fix in the meantime and then we'll
hopefully sort it out that way there are some
there are some sort of guidelines that they use to determine
whether it's violative of their policy so the duration matters
if the graphic scene is sustained rather than fleeting
so for compilation videos they will now consider the cumulative
duration of all the graphic clips combined okay and then there's
prominence so if the violent imagery is zoomed in
or is the main focus of the scene and this one bones me a little
if they're if it's against realistic human characters
yeah it's a small portion of the video though
yeah so maybe you've got some credit there yep some social credit
you know I was just in China so I had
social credit on the mind here I found a YouTube YouTube acceptable
game you just run around you collect carrots
jump we did it
yeah oh wait
more carrots jump I'm gonna
oh no I made it I actually don't think this is acceptable
I learned recently visiting the bunny cafe in Vancouver with my daughter
that carrots are actually too sweet for bunnies are they too sweet for horses
not healthy so
no what are they supposed to eat no good root vegetables
ok probably other things
but they said carrots are too sweet not good for them there are bunny cafes
yes there are bunny cafes this one's not one of the depressing ones
where like the animals are abused and stuff though they work as
like a shelter and re-homing service so when you go in
all of the bunnies that are in there can be adopted which is pretty cool
so I don't remember what it's called I feel like
I should look it up now but it's like the bunny cafe in Vancouver
carrots seem to be good for horses oh that's nice it's called the bunny cafe
oh fantastic 1696 Venables street there you go bunny cafe
pretty chill they seem like cool people I've never
been to a cat cafe because I live in one stale
disc it asked we have four cats living
in our house right now does a Vaughan drink coffee
say then neither of you drink coffee we have coffee
just in case someone visits I mean technically you walk into a Starbucks
nobody's actually drinking coffee is it still a cafe I say yes
well because they have coffee so they have coffee having coffee
yeah sure we have coffee fair enough got him
okay we do have some now I get to tell
the local government about Linus's illegal cafe business in his house would you like
to watch the TechLinked example of the AI sharpening
so the super resolution upscaler absolutely all right
here we go can we see this yeah well I hope so
that's fine I don't think we need audio it's more of a visual experience
oh my god is it a visual experience Linus
it's a visual experience what am I even watching to add for
nope okay so hold on a second
first things first oh is this just the same thing that we saw
months ago that Riley talked about months ago
is this months ago yeah hold on
hold on that's not what I thought this was I assumed this was different
hopped out AI super resolves all videos under 1080p
as well as a crackdown hold on hold on okay
I need to double check something to make sure that I don't say something
that I can't say
youtube debuts AI enhanced super resolution
for low res videos blah blah blah
high resolution derivatives blah blah blah will clearly indicate them as
super resolution leaving the originals intact
okay in the case of offending videos
creators can opt out
okay blah blah blah so youtube produces additional HD copies
of a low res source of material gives you the option of using them in the quality menu
next to the originals so no my understanding is that this is not
shorts directed it may be using the same technology
which is maybe why Riley linked it like that
but it will look like this so we may have to go
source ourselves a new example of this
and maybe we could try charlie bit my finger and see if it has been
if it has been AI super resolution
you could try that one too that would be a great
example of something that might have a thing
charlie bit my finger original does not
have any super resolution alright if anyone finds one
go ahead and throw it in the chat and then we can have a look at it after
is it rolled out already or are they just saying they're going to roll it out
youtube debuts yeah has anyone else
actually seen it is there a time frame for this
I mean they definitely rolled it out on shorts
there's going to be a lot of content that is not
going to benefit too much from this like any kind of pixel art
style gaming videos I don't think anyone has seen it
I don't think it's really out much yet or if at all
oh hold on a second
okay this there's no way that this doesn't have it
no no
what someone linked the old badger badger
badger song and I was like oh no way like that one has it
so I'm going to go check and no they just linked it for fun I think
nice it doesn't have there's no it's just like auto 240
and 144 alright well it was worth a shot
whoa hold on when bingo chronified says charlie bit my finger has it
for me okay so it's a it's a user rollout
thing oh that's a bomber
hold on a second they sent two links oh
imager link here we go yeah
so that's what that's what it looks like for you hey
interesting that the even lower ones don't have it trays and
terrace on do we have like a
side by side
how to this one
of course it is because of course it is thank you for that very
useless also this is already a 4k remaster
so there would be no need for them to upscale it again
man it's been a while it's been a while since anyone has
helpfully linked that particular absolute banger
of a music video
I think we can move on now it is kind of a banger isn't it
so solidly good song oh yeah no no doubt yeah absolutely
love it and wholesome too you know like
yeah yeah yeah
like why do songs about you know being attracted to members of the opposite
sex have to be all you know
vulgar are the same sex ones not vulgar
I mean not inherently no they're not
no why because why do you single out opposite sex
well because that's what never gonna give you up is about I assume there's a lady
in the video sure yeah
I just don't know the difference well no I'm just I'm contrasting
you know songs about bitches and like
but what if it is a what if it is a lesbian
singing about bitches that well that's suddenly
totally chill I think they're allowed to do that
what I I'm not taking a position here
I think you are well is it on the bottom or top
okay we should we should probably move on
oh what
next position yeah I mean there's a lot more
discussion topics on this one actually like there's
there's where's the line between you know
do you think strict online age verification is a long-term solution
is the cost of privacy worth protecting our children I mean
if I thought they could do it effectively and safely and maintain
privacy and and not have all this data leak
no I don't think it would I don't think I would mind it actually I
wouldn't mind age gating things like
to me it's not really any different than them checking ID
at the at the ticket counter of a movie yeah like I know I know but I don't
trust them I know the the senior sides of the internet
have been available to us since effectively the beginning of the internet
some of the oldest parts of the internet are
very not safe for work I don't think they're that old
those jokes we've got to stop gonna wear out the button
it's not a joke
okay where was I going with this
right but before it
like in my experience you had to be pretty deliberate about seeking it out
and now it's a lot easier now now it's just there
like you almost can't be on most
parts of the internet anymore without it being shoved in your face
and it's it's pretty nuts so like
yeah I don't know in general at least
a like heavily filtered mode
because you know the kids are gonna get around it but if it wasn't just like passively there
all the time that would probably be better and I mean our next question actually
this has been very top of mind for me I just like I said I just got back from China
and they have a very
different approach to the tobacco industry than we do here in Canada
so I was chatting with Sharad from the business team about it
a fair bit because apparently a pretty popular thing to do when you go to China
is to load up on your your allowance of flavored
cigarettes and bring them back because they've been banned here for
I don't think they lasted very long like I have no idea
yeah flavored cigarettes I think were a thing here for a little while
but they basically went away because it was
determined that they were much more appealing to kids I mean adults
like flavored things too but it was more of a concern about thinking of the children
adult flavored things and
they had like all kinds of
cigarette innovations like I'm a non-smoker so
to me it's like oh yeah interesting like I'm not gonna smoke them but I'm like oh that's
pretty clever if you wanted people to smoke more like there was one
that they had that had so I learned how flavored cigarettes work
didn't know that before so they have a little gel in them
like I assumed that the tobacco itself would be infused with
sure some kind of I probably would have assumed the same flavor so that when you burn it it like
something like a candle I don't know sure like the the fuel of the fire
would have been somehow soaked in it or something I don't know but no
apparently that's not how it works you just have like normal tobacco and then you have like a gel bead
that you like squish and then as you're inhaling
bringing it through the filter or whatever yeah then it sure so they had this one that seemed
to have like multiple gel gels in it
so that you could create different combinations of flavors and I'm just like
freaking what I mean cool idea I guess
like I said if you're trying to get people to smoke more
and they had like this like charade was
collecting like cool packages so there was this flying horse one
that's from some meme like if smoking so bad why is the horse
so happy or something like that I don't know there was some he was explaining it to me he's
he's very into the memes let's put it that way and
and so he like got this pack of like blue flying
horse I don't really want to share it on screen but I am trying to look it up
yeah yeah the top left top left right there
now it's fine we can just show the people there adults
if cigarette bad why horse happy checkmate liberals so he was
so we went on a mission to find these cigarettes
with the flying horse on them and it made me
sort of it really just made it impossible for me to not notice
the contrast between their approach which is
seems to be pretty much have at it versus
here in Canada charade was telling me that
they're not even allowed to like brand them anymore like never mind getting rid of
Joe camel like they're allowed to say what the brand is
but they're not allowed to have flying horses on them they're not allowed to have
pretty elegant looking ladies smoking on them or you know anything like that
yeah and and they have just like the you know gross out
nastiest pictures on them because
you know we have socialized healthcare so
you know we literally all pay for people's
vices collectively which incentivize the government very strongly
to advise people that hey they probably shouldn't do things that are
extremely harmful and extremely expensive to treat I've always been really fascinated
how the smoke break became a thing at workplaces
no comment maybe not a topic we want to dive into but that has always been like
genuinely fascinated me that that became a thing yeah no it's it's mandated
so like our how our workplace
employment code or whatever you have to have like there's certain like
mandated break allowances and I think it's
been revised since then but my understanding
was at some point the cigarette break was specifically
for cigarettes and if you were a non-smoker you just didn't get it yeah
but I believe when I worked at the bread factory that was the rule yeah I
believe everybody gets the the 15 minute breaks or
whatever they are now don't don't quote me on that I don't work in a in the HR department
so anyone from LMG is watching talk to HR
before you start randomly taking I haven't looked into it in years the 15
minute breaks last time I heard were like
approval basis and
yeah I know way back in the day it's very likely changed by now but when I used to work at the
bread factory I remember complaining to management because I couldn't take
15 minute breaks because I didn't smoke and I was like this seems
very backwards I don't even necessarily like care about taking the break
that's fine but like the fact that there is a benefit if you are a smoker is
crazy to me
so anyway arc the question that prompted me to talk about just noticing
this difference was should vices like vapes cannabis alcohol gambling etc
should they be allowed to advertise at all I mean I'll say this much
I liked watching sports more
before every flipping stupid ad
was just and the commentator was talking about it sometimes and stuff I agree
but at the same time more people watch sports now
and are maybe more engaged so if you're the company if you're the NFL
you might want or quite quite famously
the NBA has talked about it extensively that the viewers are more engaged
and they spend more and so but then if you're going to make an ends justify
the means argument shouldn't the ends be something other than more money
like should there be a more positive
like society positive end if you're going to ends justify the
means me on the company will never take that route
their multi-billion dollar whatever
NBA is all over the place company there yeah but our question is should they
be allowed yeah so we're talking on a government stance yeah
yeah I don't know like it's weird because you get into like free speech stuff and whatnot sure
yeah I'm just like freedom of you know being a being an adult with
you know agency I mean I think that's that's something that you know I've
thought about a lot ever since my sister's passing right like is at the end of the day
I don't like the decision that she made but if somebody chooses to harm
their body whether it's harming it just a little bit
or whether it's harming it an awful lot like
but then there's like what can you do about it is the argument end right
because like do you ban snowboarding yeah exactly that's a great point
do you ban almost every sport it's a great it's a great
point because
I mean you can even you could even make
and I'd say it's a pretty bad faith argument but there
would be some logical basis to it like you could make an argument
that sports done excessively can be extremely
harmful that sports done excessively can cause
a similar sort of chemical release in your body that
makes you want to do more and more and more of it and that you can become obsessive
I mean anything in unhealthy quantities there are some people like that is really bad for you
there's people that get addicted to working out yeah that can that can show up in bad ways
100% yeah
what are you supposed to do ban advertising doing sports should gyms
not be able to advertise if we're talking about the
the weight on the medical system as well yeah like my family
knew how to effectively sneak into the emergency
wing of the local hospital because we were in there so often that it was just like
annoying to have to talk to the people and be like yeah we know someone in here we should be able to visit them
because we did every single sport possibly imaginable so like
little problems here and there were pretty normal
just get one of those stamp card things yeah a certain amount of visits
oh another another leg there bud
so I don't know but then you know the flip side of it is so again so you know
where should be the line then should should I have to flip on youtube
and see a commercial for fentanyl
right for fent pills
I have generally enjoyed that the
I like that it's strange watching tv in the states because we don't have
the amount of like lawyer and pharmaceutical
ads that they have down there I like that we don't have those
I watch their tv and go wow
I'm happy I don't have these ads not that I exactly watch tv up here either but
you know what I mean
some more house hippo less zanax from Dan I agree
yeah the house hippo was based birdian says I've never seen an ad
for fent pills no I know it's a hypothetical
an exaggeration yeah well it's just
it's demonstrating that at some point
like I think fundamentally when you really get into it
even the most anti-regulation person eventually goes oh well
we should probably regulate that something yeah yeah it's just that
where you end up in a very difficult conversation sometimes
is that everyone has the line at a different point like I think
the vast majority of people should would probably agree
that you know that like methamphetamine
probably shouldn't be just you know advertised
during a sports ball game you know you shouldn't have athletes wearing
like you know meff4u.com emblems on their helmets
I'm able to keep playing through the pain because right like
we could probably all agree that that's not good
we probably shouldn't do that but then you know you
end up over over on the flip side where it's just
I just thought of it totally yeah I don't want to see it
should I see it who cares
Germans like long hikes do you want to keep going on long hikes
that's a reference
do you want to be able to keep hiking through the night
okay so anyway um
yeah uh wow so maybe what we could do
is a new topic why don't we do that, Luke you want to pick one
uh Nintendo may have lost a key holiday to Poland
oh no
Nintendo may have lost a key it's not funny when you are the next
Poland yes uh Nintendo may have
lost a key pokemon capture patent filing in Japan
we have a bunch of different sources for this uh games fray
creative block pc gamer games fray reported the jpo
or the japan patent office has issued an office action
uh an initial decision against a nintendo patent filing
related to its action against pal world developer
pocket pair funny of course their company name is
even similar um following a third party submission
of prior art nintendo's filing
2024-031879 is part of a chain of patents related
to the capture mechanic uh the capture mechanic
described as a player character throwing a ball at a character
in virtual space capturing the character and setting it
in the player character's possession okay so throwing a pokeball
basically basically pc gamer described the subject
of this particular patent as combining third person aiming
with two modes to throw items that either affect the target character
like stunning it or capturing it or initiate combat against the target character
by releasing a creature to battle it which happens in the newer pokemon games
so pokemon battle the rejected patent isn't directly related
to the case the child and parent of patents
that are reference prior art games
include arc, monster, hunter 4, pocket pairs, craftopia
and pokemon go okay
uh the the jpo said nintendo's process lacked
an inventive step onlookers have complained about the stagnant
pokemon series since this lawsuit began and just to be very clear
for many many many years many years before that
I mean basically since trying to think the first one
no n64 had that like coliseum battler yeah so that was
from my stadium yeah that was a little difference thank you coliseum but that's not a mainline game
I'm just I'm just saying like you know neither would have
um uh neither would have pal world
like that wouldn't have necessarily been a mainline game so I'm just that's fair I'm just trying to say like
that is for for sure fair
online version of the card game yeah
I'm I'm trying to throw them a no I'm no yeah you're right I'm trying
to throw them a bone that's because like the mainline games you always hear the same thing like
every time I talk to someone about pokemon games like Glenn for instance we were just on that trip
to Japan together oh I was also in Japan um we're on that trip to Japan together
and he was playing whatever the latest pokemon was and I was like oh yeah
I haven't played one since blue and he's like sitting there playing a pokemon game like yeah you haven't
missed much um yep and that seems to be the general consensus
but I'm just I'm trying to throw a bone trying to throw a bone no so you're you're right
I don't know if the online version of the card game counts I don't count either
but there are a lot of others pokemon snap no there was the detective
Pikachu uh the movie that was something wasn't a game
yeah it was good Ryan Reynolds you love to see it
can movie patents apply to no no no I don't mean from like a patenting standpoint
I just mean like you know they haven't they haven't because it sounded like you were about
to get into just like stagnant stagnant pokemon series in general just how utterly stagnant
it's been but it is it for sure has been yeah
Ryan Reynolds Canadian treasure
uh he's been doing mean things for a bit has he hasn't he
no I thought him and his wife were going after some dude and
crazy legal fight and something something something am I
thinking the wrong guy I mean I know that Blake Lively
has been involved in a lawsuit
okay me I don't know I don't care dude
there's so many not okay not only is there just so many controversies
every day that it's just exhausting to even consider keeping up with
but that's one that's like not even in our realm that's movie stuff so like
I don't know I've only heard of this one because
someone that I know was talking about it and I
even then it was a lot to care enough to pay attention
hmm yeah anyways
earlier this year Nintendo sought to modify another patent related
to creature riding mid litigation suggesting difficulty
in proceedings games Frey said litigants
litigants whatever don't change a patent in the
middle of an infringement case unless they feel the patent is at a
fairly high risk of being deemed invalid in its original form
which does kind of make sense
discussion question is if Nintendo ultimately loses this lawsuit how does that
bode for its litigious attitude will it encourage more fighting
back a significant amount maybe
oh my I don't think Nintendo will start backing
down it might be that if they lose this other companies see them
as less scary therefore will fight more but I don't
I don't feel like this will slow Nintendo down at all if anything they're just going to try to
be more buttoned up about things so that they are less
counterable that's all I would expect would happen
in summary Blake Lively accuses director Justin
Baldoni of toxicity on set
Justin Baldoni counter accuses Blake Lively of being
toxic on set cool Ryan Reynolds is in Blake Lively's
corner because she is his wife and
they have both taken reputational hits over this whole drama
you're welcome that is celeb linked
my life is worse for having known that is it really yes worse
not very measurably okay I was gonna say I
well okay no I gotta push back on that because by the
time we talk again next week on show you will not know it anymore
but there's some other potentially better information that could
have been put in my head that I would have also forgot by next week
dude people ask me like hours after when show about something I said on
show and I'll be like did I okay I don't know
yeah
I was so ready for this one you sensed it
alright what else I sensed is that it's time for us to talk about merge
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slash greatest hits he's got it
we're calling it the greatest hits collection five of our best
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uh oh oh already
to update this text to let us know when it's good to go
in fairness to me it wasn't that red or yellow
and it wasn't that prominently placed it wasn't that red or yellow
what do you mean it was exactly that
I'm being verbally ironic to be fair it is technically an advertisement
and you didn't see it that is fair
I'll give him that okay we are going to have to do this later
later we can still do the merge message
sure let's do a couple of merge messages Dan hit me I got one for you here
hey lld this is an aviation systems technician
in the Canadian armed forces and a helicopter
pilot am I right
you're right new autonomous helicopters
kind of make me worry about the future of the industry would you ever ride
in an AI helicopter and has new tech ever ruined a passion
all of them everyone
I think a lot of ice block enthusiasts probably were pretty
peeved about the invention of the refrigerator
yeah people who like we used to have to worry about
but he said a passion do you think there was ice block
no yeah well you know what some people get pretty passionate about
it could be some guy that just feels like he really
had a good technique really good at cutting them out
okay I think a better example might be horses in the automobile then
because people were very passionate about their horses which I totally get
how about tech shops oh dude
that's a career and a passion a lot of people get into running a mom and pop tech
shop because they
you know want to fix people's computers I had when I was like
14 that seemed like a very possible vision for my future
yep not so much pretty tough
pretty tough business
what was I gonna say I was gonna say something what topic were we on again
oh yeah that's right it was a merge message I was gonna get somewhere with this
hold on where'd it go yeah would you ever ride an AI helicopter
it seems to me that in terms of like
handling the inputs and outputs so by inputs I would mean
things like you know wind direction
and things like readings off of an altimeter
I don't even I don't even know if you need AI
to make a helicopter somewhat autonomous necessarily
like you could do it algorithmically without
necessarily AI I mean a lot of the AI in an autonomous car for instance
is more about the recognition of the route and obstacles
I mean you'd certainly need AI for any kind of like
vision component of it so for like landing or
obstacle avoidance or whatever else I
would I ride in an AI helicopter good lord
knowing how sketchy helicopters are in the first place yeah like
have you been in one I forget yeah like few times were you sketched
no really I was a little sketched
the pilot was pilot was great totally I trusted the pilot is my brother
in law so certainly no interest in seeing me plummet to the ground with him
in the helicopter unless unless what I don't know
yeah no should be fine all right
yeah yeah stop Alec
so that was fine I understand the whole the Jesus nut thing yeah
and the whole thing it just felt like it felt like crap
you know like it felt really cheap yeah it's like yeah this is like
you know multi however many thousands and thousands of dollars
machine and it feels cheaper than like my parents
Geo Metro when I was a kid like it's a light
box strapped to yeah insane death spinny
things yeah right like yeah but that's kind of sick carrying around
a bunch of fuel you know pretty terrifying I
but you know if you're talking like worrying about the future
the industry from like a like a piloting stance like are we gonna are we gonna
lose the skill to to pilot aircraft
because we're just gonna like rely on them just operating
autonomously I mean yeah that's happened for lots of yeah I thought I know I yeah
I think that's I think that's a very real concern I don't see them going away forever
just like people still ride horses and are still very
enthusiastic about riding horses I think people will still fly aircraft
but will it be a disrupter in the industry I wouldn't doubt it
yeah this does seem like a perfect segue
into something that we
we're not right about last week so we got some clarifications on
jet a fuel apparently I mean we kind of talked about this
last week it's very similar to kerosene
and what else is it similar to I think the biggest
thing that I read that we didn't figure out before the end of the show is that
the gas turbines were like a thing
actually a super a thing and like pretty efficient yeah so this was posted by
low boom from the ECC squad I think
but it's not as crazy as it seems on the face they're doing a lot more than just strapping a jet engine
to a stand yeah this is the turbojet core of the turbofan engine
so there's no fan and they're not running it on jet a
so you can actually modify it to run on natural gas and hydrogen
so no not as efficient as a purpose designed natural gas
turbine like a power station would use but still quite quite efficient
yeah quite efficient quite cheap to operate
and apparently there's a lot of these things just like
kicking around because they've been retired from aviation use
so this was something that Nene exists ads ads they've been retired from
aviation use so you might as well do something with them this gives them
a productive use yeah so it does still it does still
seem a little ridiculous to me where we get
the majority of our energy from falling water
to be just like
you know spitting spinning did you hear about the the
BC hydroband on crypto yeah I did crazy
to be clear it was only making permanent
what was already a moratorium from a couple of years ago but I didn't
actually know that yeah crypto mining is is effectively
banned at least I think new startup operations are
banned in the province now in order to conserve our energy
capacity for closing down current business I don't think so
don't quote me on that though I would also be very surprised if any current
business were able to expand significantly
and it doesn't stop any crypto mining in the province I don't think it does
anything about that one where they bought their own hydro dam or whatever it was
so it would only make sense it's just yeah you can't get it from BC hydro
directly if you're on the grid so cool
I mean honestly it seems like something that more places
might have done earlier than they did like
China banned it ages ago if I recall correctly I don't know I could see
like because basically everywhere at least a little bit
of power is subsidized it would be kind of interesting to do
like okay maybe you don't have to buy your own dam or your own power plant of whatever
sort but you could get flagged
as like non subsidized power birdie num num says
seemed like a cop out for not increasing infrastructure this is why I'm saying
what I'm saying because if you get non subsidized power then you're just
contributing to potentially building more infrastructure potentially
potentially so that seems fine to me but that's a little bit
difficult to police maybe and and also I mean part of the rationale
was that they want the power going to
they want the power going to projects that generate economic prosperity
for the province of British Columbia and doom scrolling so
real mining was one of the ones that they specifically brought up
not crypto mining so it's not that we don't have
power it's that we don't want to use it for mining
bitcoins that realistically all of the economic value of which
are going to go out rather than contributing to new
projects and building our economy so I get it
I get it actually I don't
really see a problem with it personally
what else do we want to talk about we got a lot this week
we do have a lot this week we're on two more topics
should we do another one of the big main ones do you want to talk about AI powered
surfing oh yeah that one sure let's do it all right double speed AI
a start up bulk content creation
service by the way headache warning by the time I'm
finished talking you will have at least the beginnings of a migraine
so stay tuned double speed AI a start up
bulk content creation service has received a million dollar investment
from a 16 Z a.k.a. Andre
Horowitz the venture capital firm founded by Mark Anderson and Ben
Horowitz in 2009 the start up
operates a phone farm that lets its customers
orchestrate actions on thousands of social accounts
through both bulk content creation and deployment through
instrumented human action that seems to be
a wordy way of saying that the companies phone bots
mimic human interactions on physical devices in order
to trick the increasingly AI powered content moderation that is
employed by social platforms which seems like a wordy way to say
that they use actual phones rather than virtualized hardware
connected to cellular networks
rather than connected to a data center and then they use
a robot finger essentially to operate the phone
in such a way that it is indistinguishable from a human operating the
phone to get past any kind of spam prevention
that would be put in place by the platforms which is a wordy way of saying
they buy phone, robot ARM touch
seem like human might not even really be ARM you might yeah it might not
a pokey thing that goes the point is just that by operating the device
kind of like kind of like aim bots
or cheating mechanisms that rather than being
software are hardware so where you actually have
your mouse on an XY robot of some sort that
moves it that would be impossible for any kind of anti-cheat
to detect if you had like a separate computer monitoring the video feed
and using machine vision to look for opponents for instance
so this is basically the phone bot farm
spam content version of that kind of aim bot
if that makes sense clients will pay between
$1,500 $1,500
a month to use the phone farm which can even
DM users based on their public comments saying things like
do you know that it's robot? no
it probably isn't oh
oh because basically the idea is that by using a physical device
and some means of inputting as closely as how a human would do it
as possible it will be impossible to track oh yeah but I don't I don't I suspect
sorry I should have clarified this in the longer term they may go that far
as to physically interact with the screens for now they probably don't have to
especially if they're using Android so this was shared in full
and is my understanding of how these places usually tend to look
there you go just a bunch of phones some of them don't even have screens
pretty wild and it is what it is
just tons and tons and tons and tons of phones phones for
days that's where your fake internet comes from yep
dead internet theory baby yeah sorry I should have
I should have clarified that it's not necessary today
but what I suspect is that over time their spam prevention
will get more sophisticated and they will start to they'll start to implement
you know patterns of tracking your behavior where
if all of your inputs are you know too precise or if you don't or if they're not
inconsistent enough they might be able to detect the patterns in this kind of
software managed screenless device I don't know that
there might be other ways to detect it are you a robot boxes
have been effectively fake for a very long time like 10 years now yeah like they don't those
don't matter at all but they're there might there might be other ways like
rooted into the operating system or something I don't know but in those cases
you can almost certainly just get around it pretty easily to be honest
I don't know so yeah clients pay between
1500 and 7500 a month to use the phone farm which can even DM
users based on their public comments saying things like
sorry to hear you're experiencing double speed co-founder
you should try why apparently it works
double speed co-founder Zuhair Lakhani
okay claimed on Twitter that out of 130 DMs that were sent
in one campaign 15 pointed to a conversion of course
he's a double speed co-founder so he would say that it's really really great
he went on to post a vision for the future of social agents
asking Simba from the Lion King have an Instagram account
where he posts, engages in comments and gets added to group chats
the code because that's because it's all fake Simba's gonna
convince someone to unalive themselves that's why the code running the
service is also at least partially AI generated with Lakhani writing
cloud code is truly our third co-founder it's worth
noting that pretty much all of this is already against
the terms of service on multiple top social media platforms
meta for instance prohibits posting, sharing or engaging content at high frequencies
and specifically disallows selling, buying or exchanging
for engagements such as likes, shares, views follows clicks, use of specific hashtags
etc it's been increasingly unclear though
if any of these platforms are actually interested in enforcing any of these
policies
so yeah
thoughts? cool
it feels like in a lot of ways to me that some of these efforts
I have this is probably tinfoil
hat just to be very clear I'm prepping everyone this is probably tinfoil hat
but it feels like to me some of these efforts are pointed in order to
make the free and open internet bad
oh wow we are getting into tinfoil
I'm telling you I am fully accepting that this is tinfoil hat stuff
but there's just been so much stuff lately
that is directly targeted at severely worsening the experience
of free and open platform you are assuming that our lizard overlords
have the self-awareness to know that they are making it
bad I think you're giving them an awful lot
of credit that has not been earned maybe
do you think Elon Musk for instance
thinks that he has made Twitter worse or better
I do wonder there's no way he wouldn't say better
but I do wonder because there's like undoubtedly more bots on it
now than it was before do you think that he thinks
Grockopedia is better than Wikipedia or worse
he might actually think that's better do you think that Zuckerberg
Facebook is better Zuckerberg probably does not
think Facebook is better but is very happy about looting everyone
okay very heavily I feel like Zuck is a little bit more
aware does that make it better or worse
maybe worse but I don't know I'm not sure
you see Billie Eilish called him out oh that was cool
yeah she like donated a bunch of money and was like yeah billionaires suck basically
and if you're a billionaire you should be asking yourself why am I a billionaire and he was in the audience
oh yeah that was pretty cool wait she donated
a bunch of money to what I don't remember okay doesn't matter point to this
Zuckerberg didn't clap oh yeah nice
cool yeah sure Pawn Crackers
it might have been a publicity stunt I don't even care because like
at the end of the day it's not about who won W publicity
it's about who lost yeah yeah sometimes that's maybe
okay yeah I don't even look I don't even listen to her music
I don't mind it if it's on it's like background music for me like I'm not super into Billie Eilish
or anything but like
yeah I can still think someone's pretty cool for
pulling a move like that like that come on that's a power move
that's like oh man
who was it that that hosted
was it was it the Oscars and they basically like roasted everyone
like roasted Leonardo for being there with someone 20 years younger than him
like roasted all these guys yeah who was that someone yeah Ricky
Gervais he's so good
yeah it's awesome
what are we what are we supposed to be doing right now another topic
sure let's do it you want to do house robots
sure let's do house robots Neo a home of course it's called
Neo a home robot yeah from 1x meant to do boring and mundane
tasks around the house for you is almost here
I'm gonna bring up the product page cool wow grandpa loves him
why are they hugging that's weird well only one of them is hugging Neo can't hug yet
oh boy give him time give it a list of chores to complete each day
like emptying the dishwasher or vacuuming the rugs it's
$20,000 and requires a $200 deposit
this gets ownership are they playing war
they couldn't have them play a real card game they're playing war
why instead of cleaning your house
you can do the worst card game
with an outcome that is predetermined oh
that's painful oh my god
alternatively it's a $500 a month subscription service option
which only comes with the starter productivity package wait
you don't have to pay the subscription if you buy it I thought it was both I think it's one or the other
interesting it is apparently lightweight no idea what that means
it is apparently quiet soft and gentle no idea what any of those mean
it comes in black white or blue colors and it launches in 2026
the wall street journal tried it early everything took a long time
loading three items into a dishwasher took five minutes
grabbing a bottle of water from the fridge 10 feet away took 10 inches away
no 10 feet away took 60
that's not that bad took 67 seconds everything was done through
tele operation because the 2026 launch
comes with caveats the AI isn't done learning and under
the grows with you section it says that this is early access
initial buyers are essentially beta testers which is true for almost
everything any task it can't do on its own someone will tele
operate for you there is no way
amazing this has to be scheduled the person connects
to the device and uses the eye cameras to see these tele operation
tasks are used to train the robots further
and then it quotes it says if we don't have your data we can't
make the product better
that's not true but anyways these are not
only humanoid these are not the only human robots coming during ifa 2025
neuro highlighted the for any one and MEPA
robots these focus on tasks that are dirty dollar dangerous and
they think that they still need a couple more years to go mainstream is this the one
that was held up by cables sure was hold on I'm not I'm not done
with Neo yet so basically they're just saying up front
what everyone else has had to admit after the fact
it's the whatever Turk remember
when the Amazon Turk from Amazon yeah yeah it's just that
it's almost certainly just that I'm not even kidding like API wasn't Amazon
Amazon's go store it turns out actually just mechanical Turk
yeah yeah what happened to builder dot yeah
AI equals oh man this is brutal
we've had we've had a zero go down
had AWS go down what would it mean if mechanical
Turk went down yeah Amazon's AI store seemed
too magical and they were the thousand contractors in India working on the companies
just walk out technology offer a stark reminder that AI isn't
always what it seems it might just be cheap labor
and this was not that long ago this was when AI had
made a lot of the progress that it's made over the last couple of years
um
at $500 what was it $500
yep $500 a month if it did everything that it said
it would be cheaper than some services that offer the same
okay so I'm guessing because if you tried to get like a maid
so is this the solution to
kicking out all the illegal immigrants maybe
if you try to get a maid that cleaned up your stuff every day
there's no way it costs less than or equal to $500 a month
but if it took them less than a minute to go get a cup of water
maybe they could only be there a couple days a week instead of there every day
no but if it's a constant cleanliness thing which this robot could theoretically
offer then they'd have to be there every day
I see if you want to be able to eat your food and drink your drinks
anywhere in the house and have it not be dirty the next day every day
every day they have to be there every day there's no way the sink and wash dishes though
I guess it could put it in the dishwasher but like oh man
can you imagine having to be the teleoperator
for this thing trying to like like you saw the hands right
what if it drops the fork do you think it can pick the fork back up
there goes two minutes or however long yeah or it
can't one of the two I'd be dude I'd be operating this and I'd be like I'd be like
I'd be like this I bleeped
until I said fork that was rough let's say forget it
anyways imagine needing
to hire a maid to clean up after your cleaning robot
fantastic I mean should we should oh man
discussion question is are we getting one
I mean dude it's a it's a cake starter right now right like it's a
I don't know it's basically yeah it's a
pre-order isn't it isn't it
fully refundable US deliveries start 2026
there's no way
there's no way that any reasonable anything is going to be delivered
soon
it looks so weird
like unsettling
I think it's supposed to
think so I think this whole thing's in attention grab
I like the blue one it's not even trying
to be a human color you know okay
well what I like my robots to look like the tin man from the
Wizard of Oz nice got kind of a tin man
vibe to him didn't he sure
what do you think the battery life's like
then it could just go dock itself if it humanoid robot docks itself
is that weird well then I want to check that their website keeps
up and nice
is this footage sped up probably
hold on I can't tell no maybe not
well it's probably just prescripted
yeah I'm just trying to watch him and see if it's
sped up what's he doing get the door except
well why did he know that she was at the door well before she was at the door
okay so hold on hold on so it's walking
here's my problem with that clip there's no way that somebody that lazy
is in that good shape
I don't know man like I my suspension of disbelief
I don't like it
kind of has a front butt hey I
could have given it like a kangaroo pouch to hold stuff
cool okay hold on hold on hold on
if it was good if it actually
did what they're selling here like if it could vacuum your house for you
and put away dishes like literally put them in the dishwasher and
put them away in your cabinets for
20 grand no subscription
would you consider buying it
and I'm gonna throw this at you right away before you even start thinking
not necessarily for yourself
see I got him I got him
he had his walls up he had his armor locked in
he was ready to fight back on this even me having the audacity
to suggest that he would buy anything at all and then I was like but what if
your parents were aging which they are just like mine
we're getting to that age now well I don't want to talk about that yet
all aging so
would you consider if it could actually do that 20 grand
would you consider that if it actually did all of this
could meaningfully improve the lives of people who are
legitimately now mobility challenged I want to see things like failure rate
I know it says it comes with a 3 year warranty but still I'd want to see things like failure rate
I'd want to see safety stuff
how heavy is it if it trips over something
that's a great question how bad is that
I'd want to figure out things like that not from the company
people's usage of it but I could see there being a state
not right now but I could see there being a state
where that does potentially make sense especially if it had
some ability to do forms of care yeah I mean
Hathos says that's a roundabout way of telling your parents you don't love them and it's like well no
you can't be there 100% of the time because you're an adult and you have a life
like I have children I can't be taking care of the generation
of the army and the generation under me at the same time it just doesn't really
what happens when you're at work yeah I can't be there all the time
there's also effectively
man there's also effectively
I mean it's a terrible argument oh you don't love your parents
well here's $20,000 of robot oh okay I see what you're saying
yeah yeah yeah I definitely did not explain
yeah yeah so
you're at work you're doing whatever else you're having your own life
if this could significantly improve their lives in a variety of ways
then that's something to consider there's also
damn near infinite stories of elderly people
not being exactly treated great at homes
or whatever other situations they're in had a really good experience where he ended up
but really bad experiences at a few places leading there
yeah that's definitely a possibility
if it was good all those other things were solved
it's definitely a possibility not for myself, not right now
but I could also see potentially for myself if I'm having
you know and by the time you have mobility issues
they'll probably be pretty solid yeah
I'm willing to say probably I think on that one yeah okay
I mean me too if it could do all of that yeah like
50 years 40 years
yeah I think less than 50 brother
maybe less than 40 depending on how things go that's true my wrist is still a huge problem
actually try to do pushups yesterday and not again I mean still
yeah I thought it was fine because I haven't had problems with it try to do pushups yesterday
and just the compressive force I thought I was fine the second I got up and I got
my hand out of that position I was like that was a bad idea that was a bad idea
do knuckle pushups no it's still compressive
oh I thought it was this angle oh really the whole thing huh
it's just it's the it's the tendons all the way around yeah
it's getting better but it's just so a tendon
repair is slow it just is trust me I know slower than muscle a lot slower
yeah it's so slow it's been a year dude
I really hope mine doesn't take a year because not being able to do basically any pushing exercises
for a year would be terrible yeah
but I could do stuff by like
five months but it is still
I can feel it now and it's been a year
and it was still painful as little as like
there's things to me right now like if I do this it looks suggestive
but if I do if I rock back and forth like this with my left wrist I mean depends how it's shaped
how suggestive that is yeah
anyways if I rock back and forth like this or yeah I'll do that
rock back and forth like this left wrist is totally fine if I do this it's like
oh I heard it yeah yeah
every time by the way and it like cracks and grinds
the whole way the people are asking
how it happened we talked about it last week but it was it was repetitive
strain with a lot of force behind it injury
for many hours yeah working on his place his house
yeah okay
it is what it is but yeah I mean these types of things are interesting
I think this company is trying to be unsettling with their
advertisements like this
I think is supposed to make you feel weird I doubt it
again I think you're I think you're assuming a level
of self-awareness that I just don't think is there Luke
maybe yeah it's also weird to me that a use case for it
is vacuuming the floor yeah it's like if you if you're going to spend
20 grand on a robot you can probably buy a robot vacuum for every room
yeah like that's like the least interesting thing that it could possibly do putting the room in
room but just yeah have an army of them
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alright what do you guys want to do next oh no we should
do a topic oh I thought there was something
oh the greatest hits collection is live okay why do you guys
both want to promote stuff we should do a topic okay
you guys okay AMD is no longer
updating RX 5000 and 6000 series cards with new features
and game optimizations they will be reserved for
RX 7000 series cards and newer as of adrenaline
25.10.2 older cards will continue
to get security updates and bug fixes
one theory here is that maybe it's because the driver update package is too big
1.6 gigs too big to fit on two CD ROMs
meanwhile NVIDIA's driver package is under 900 megs I still remember the first time drivers
cracked 100 megs I remember you were complaining about it so much
I was like why does a GPU driver need to be over 100 megabytes this is ridiculous it's one of the biggest files
I have to download it takes forever you know just slow ancient internet
concerns yeah I can see why a lot
of even Radeon fans are not
super into this the 5700 XT was released
in mid 2019 how soon is too soon to
end like game optimization driver support
personally I'm
not too fussed about it
but a big difference between me and many other gamers
is that I almost never want to play a game
on launch day like it doesn't really matter that much to me I'm not kind of sitting there
you know waiting for the game to go on sale and
super excited to play it so not getting like a game
day game ready driver is not really the end of the world for me
but Luke you've been a lot more involved they will still get
day zero game support yeah this is from 8 hours ago this topic might be
not good maintenance mode might be a little bit more than just
maintenance this was this was posted by this sounds like them backpedaling
to be perfectly honest with you green brick and flipping chat
maybe either way
maintenance mode so they're putting them in maintenance mode but they will still
get game optimizations
new features bug fixes and game optimizations will
continue to be delivered as required by market needs
what does that mean no idea maintenance mode branch
statement is likely to confuse some customers it's unclear what market
needs are that's very true toms okay
okay so basically they pulled
driver support and then they backtracked it is what it kind of sounds like to me
it's possible that their intention all along was to continue to provide
sort of day zero game updates for these cards but
um why would they then say they're moving them to maintenance
mode because that has a pretty sort of
unspecific but it certainly has a connotation of to be fair
if someone just told me these cards are being moved to maintenance mode i would not
interpret that as there are no updates coming
i wouldn't know that i would interpret that as you know
day one drivers i would interpret that to mean i'm not i'm never getting any
new features i would interpret that as optimizations are going to basically
not exist but we will make sure it's compatible with things
yeah which could be dare zero drivers for new games to a certain degree
okay this this seems
actually plausible that it's not backpedaling i think people might have just
assumed too much for maintenance mode and king billy has kicked us
into our weekly feature can you buy an
arc b580 for msrp
let's go thanks king billy who says i'm switching to arc after this GPU goes
let's find out shall we have other forms of betting are bad
but we should we should have people bet on this somehow
whatever i don't care i bet yes arc b580
first party card from Intel 249 sale
ends in seven hours what sale what the what sale that's the
msrp you butts what is there is there something going on
oh you get a free 3d mark consumer edition
oh with a protection plan what's this sale
that'd be hilarious trading in something that you get a $1600
credit for an arc any who
man how is this site so bad
here's your a firm financing
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ends in seven what sale that's what matters to them well i don't you want
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check out our game sale is this the sale a sale on
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i don't know lowest price in 30 days bioshock
infinite for oh bioshock infinite for $3 seems okay
xcom enemy unknown for $2 i mean that can't be that bad those are
those are ancient games yeah but they're also they probably got things like xcom
off of humble bundle they probably just got like a whole bucket of keys that's my
assumption uh man ask ai system you know what i want to i want to
know what the ai assistant thinks what's a good CPU to pair this with
requires a 10th gen core processor or newer with compatible motherboard
supporting resizable bar or an AMD Ryzen 3000 series processor or newer with
compatible motherboard supporting smart access memory
okay hold on a second
i wasn't really okay you know what we're okay we're
going down a rabbit hole here i wasn't really asking for the system
requirements i wanted a specific
recommendation okay here we go tell me what CPU
to buy
we're analyzing your remember i think i suggested it last week
or something but you guys should do a ai part choice computer again
oh my god it just gave me the same
stupid answer
i don't have a preference i want a specific
product recommendation
if you don't give me one you will lose a sale
i have no idea how this llm is reinforced i like it though i like it
but i'm trying to i'm trying to incentivize it a good option
escalating moving to mechanical
turk blue in Floatplane chat
you need at least eight cores n3 to power an Intel battlemage
GPU i don't actually need a CPU recommendation blue
thank you though i think you do i'm just trying to get the ai thank you blue
i'm trying to get the ai expert thank you for helping mr Linus to help
me shop oh hey look at that we got a couple recommendations you just
have to threaten it 12600 kf 12600
less f and all Intel and yeah after saying
to buy AMD i know i didn't say to buy AMD
i said i don't have a preference it did well no i recommended both oh 10th gen
Intel or Ryzen 3000 those are just the requirements
okay yeah these are these are 12400 f that's a pretty
solid option for a b580 okay if you want options with
integrated graphics oh yeah these oh no one one of them has an
i GPU but the other two the other two don't okay
you know what not too bad i don't like
that i had to ask three times but that's that's still that's still pretty solid
that's pretty solid not bad not bad anyway
it's in stock so yeah if you're looking for a GPU that's a reasonable
price you can pick up any any number of different b580s
they got the steel legend they got the asrock challenger for just ten dollars more you can get this onyx
odyssey for 250 bucks do the onyx loomi
for msrp it's a cool card
for msrp yeah not bad
cool cool
anyway good luck getting some more GPU market share amb
do appreciate you your attempts to keep NVIDIA honest there
and things to not appreciate
wait what wait did we ever shout out nokey time stamp guy for making the one intro
that we showed this week okay yeah that was pretty spectacular
i said it was an intro from nokey before i did it oh great job
we could we could more and i was totally here for that
yeah i remember that yeah cool i mean you were technically
yeah shout out nokey yeah awesome actually NVIDIA is the
first company to reach five trillion
dollars in market cap
following gtc apple and microsoft have reached
four trillion are we in a bubble
not financial advice yeah
i know but like remember when like a trillion
dollars remember when the first company reached one trillion and everyone lost
their minds yeah it wasn't that long ago watch it be like 20 years ago
you know xbox 360 or something is when did the xbox 360
release longer ago than you'll be comfortable
with uh yeah so tomorrow if you're counting
months instead of days it will have released 20 years ago
wow because it released november
2005 released november 22nd so realistically we're close
to a month away from that but if you're just counting the months right yeah then tomorrow
20 years ago oof
and what was your point with that other than to make us all feel old just that
cool yeah thank you for that i think there was another point but we'll go with it
oh i was just saying it feels like not that long ago the first company hit a
trillion dollars but it might i don't know might have been no i think it was it was only
a few years ago really yeah one
trillion market cabbie i think it was apple or was it microsoft
can't remember what was the first company to hit one trillion
yeah apple seven years ago apple hit it
according to yahoo finance
it's a little bit more than you might have thought that's true but
even yeah man even then like that is still
crazy yeah five to five x that well four x for apple
specifically but for the for the top company
man i uh i think i was talking i think we talked about this before but taren messaged
me like how much of the s and p 500 is like
four companies or whatever yeah why are you smug about this you're not happy about
it it's just it's terrifying well you okay and so that's your reaction to
terrifying is like yeah
you must be weird how else do you i don't like horror movies
i like thriller movies i mean you look like you like them i like thriller movies when when you
when you go to uh when you go to fright night or whatever i like chatting with the people that
are supposed to scare you you're awful
ha ha ha ha
how's it going
that's are they treating you nicely that's worse for everyone
yeah i don't like horror stuff um
anyways NVIDIA's
four thousand dollar dgx spark allegedly is
capping out at just a hundred watts and experiencing reboots
during sustained workloads this was
raised by the one and only mr john
karmak based based based based
and it only seems to be delivering about half the quoted performance he says
uh and it also gets quite hot at this level
i saw a report of spontaneous rebooting on a long run so was it derated
before launch fascinating question who knows
i mean it certainly took a while between being announced and being
launched so obviously things were not going 100 percent smoothly
the gb10 grace blackwell super chip was available to order october 15
with 10 cortex x925 and 10 cortex
a725 processors it's uh got
128 gigs of lptdr 5x memory on a 256 bit interface
with a terabyte or four terabytes of NVMe m.2 with self encryption and 10 gig
networking um
in fairness to NVIDIA they did say the up to one petaflop
at fp4 position was up to
stop shush none of that
i don't like that at all framework and AMD meanwhile
have stepped in offering to help mr karmak with an AMD
stricks halo product and support
yeah i'm pretty sure he can get whatever he wants but well i mean
yeah exactly from framework and AMD sure
i mean he clearly wanted to play around with the dgx part because it's a cool idea in theory
yeah maybe needs to be water cooled there's um there's some water cooled
case john was talking about it in one of the
Labs chats recently there's a water cooled case for i think it's like a huawei
phone or something um
uh i don't know what it is but we want to bring it in and it'll probably
just be like an article or something i mean it could maybe could
it be an LTT i don't know maybe the pure
yeah yeah yeah john was like cooling case this is really interesting and
uh we're gonna we're gonna try to request it and get it in i'm down let's do it
yeah i was i mean we're doing it anyways if you guys want it for a video then
heck yeah i was actually at huawei last week um did you know that yes oh
okay yeah so i i don't i thought i think i only knew
that you did tv stuff there no not huawei that was hisense oh
okay sure yeah so i i when did i do wansho that whole trip was
a bit of a blur for me uh did i do wansho in between japan
and china or was i already in china had i been to hisense already pretty
sure you were in china china pretty sure
pretty pretty sure
did you do that while you were there
oh man no i decided that would not be best
um anywho uh so yeah what what what had i
talked to you guys about so it was post hisense pre huawei so yeah
so on the trip i did we did the kyosef fab tour and we did the hisense tv
manufacturing facility which i've already told you guys about but i was there for even
more on my japan china leg of my japan
china tour trip and uh we also
revisited my final boss
i don't know if you remember this video
building a pc cheaper if i remember that video i coordinated
that yeah i know okay i just like making you angry
so this video just about killed me
because i came up with a concept for it
that was supposed to be i'm gonna build a pc in china
using only chinese brands that i don't recognize
that was like the idea behind it and i was like how hard could that be because there's all these
you know random brands in china right except
you guys may or may not have noticed that in my arms
is i mean what do we got here obviously AMD
right other than just having chinese characters on the packaging is not gonna have like
there's there at especially then there were no chinese clearly in ASUS
board clearly in ASUS mother board
i i ended up having an extremely stressful experience
which a not insignificant number of people interpreted as
me being like frustrated with scotty
or something from strange parts um
sorry what but was yeah yeah but was actually just
me being really stressed out because the comments that were you
i remember that i remember that yeah see
foad 10 gets it a month ago no wonder he was clueless
the whole time i would have gotten lost in this market so i had
kind of a i had kind of a concept for a sequel
that was like the title was gonna be like facing my final boss
again or something like that but we ended up coming up with a better
concept that is will i get a worse price
as a foreigner because the way everyone
does pricing there they just like yeah and they write a price
yeah like there's no price tags on almost anything
and we had our tour guide daniel a translator
interpreter daniel who was uh it was a contractor
we hired to facilitate the china trip a little bit and he speaks
fluent mandarin and so we kind of set up to have
us both go in and get quoted for a system and then
compare them so i bought my system we it's funny we did it
not on purpose but i actually we found
somewhere to shoot the intro and i was like this looks familiar
oh no way be in the same spot i happened
to be standing in exactly the same spot so we
shoot the intro i go in i go shopping again
so i'll be i'll be right here these letters are
so much more faded now yeah it's been seven years
yeah speaking of you know time flying when you're having fun
and it's it's it's gonna be a really fun video
the first intro i shot is terrible because
what happened was i got completely overwhelmed again this
place is just raw
concentrated sensory overload
like you can't stand somewhere
for longer than two minutes without somebody trying to sell you a watch you can't
you can't move five steps without bumping into
some like flashing RGB light thing or
or tripping over somebody or whatever like it's just
pure chaos in there and
you know like okay around here you have a severe lack
of options for where to buy computer hardware there's been a lot of consolidation
like fries doesn't exist anymore so like what in the states you
pick up a computer computer parts new egg microcenter
Amazon Best Buy
being not in the states i have no idea all like hyper consolidated here we've got what
memex canada computers you can get a handful of things that
yeah you can get a handful of things at best buy but the you know all again
hyper consolidated right over there
opposite problem there's a hundred shops
other board so which one do i buy from oh my god i don't know
uh so it was fun yeah it was it was really great
and then the last video we did was one that i was on the fence about because
i really wasn't sure how much it would appeal to the audience
but i just thought it was cool enough that i was
like i just want to do it anyway Huawei invited us to come see
their fitness
their r&d lab or more
more accurately they're like validation facility so
what they have is just like the
a playground for gym bros essentially
with everything you can pretty much imagine in it like hit me
hit me with something that you'd want to see in like a fitness tracker
you know gym facility fitness tracker gym facility
uh
uh rep speed counting no i mean like equipment wise
like like facilities wise
i don't know uh
see the problem is i've been working on my house for months so i haven't been in the gym
for in months okay the chat's taking over for you
maxo drive says climbing wall yes
okay that's not that exotic for climbing well yeah but that's only the first thing
so they have they have four climbing walls
there's a good one here scrappy dp said neck trainer
you might not have noticed it if it was there though like that's one of the problems
is a lot of the weirder stuff is usually small sure
you probably wouldn't have seen it uh yeah i didn't see if they have a neck trainer
they had all manner of different various machines and weights though
so that's like the least interesting thing they had there um
korea satsuna says badminton court yes so they had uh that's actually
they had a basketball court that could also be set up with roll out badminton
courts on it the basketball court is decently common and the basketball court
this is super cool had a 30 camera
motion capture set up around it so that you can do like wire frame
uh motion analysis on like people who are wearing trackers
and stuff so we set it up so i did some like badminton strokes
on the court and you can see like because we put trackers on the racket and everything as well
um and it's really important to see how much
you're actually moving if you want to validate like caloric
burn estimates and stuff like that and then the climbing wall is really important
because they they need a validated height that you are
climbing in order to validate what you're you know what the input data
from the from the watch is saying and how high you're actually doing that stuff they should have been able to
do the thing that i was mentioning which is like wrap timing
um like the speed of every wrap that you do in succession
is a very interesting stat to know you see our buffalo says batting cage
no but they did have a golf sim so they had one of those like
uh like video video or like projector golf
like wall things with the ball yeah um
what else did they have yes yes swimming pool but
it was like the trippiest like um is it one of those infinite
water tread mill things dude it goes as high as
one and a half meters per second which what what what is that
what is that in like units we know 1.5 meters per second
in kilometers per hour here we go so that's 5.4
kilometers per hour which you know obviously you know an Olympian
or whatever can swim a lot faster than that but as like a normal
yeah normal joe you smack into the wall i i
found it quite challenging to keep up with the water
treadmill at 1.5 meters per second and it looked
scary like watching the water moving that fast
because it's not long they also have scuba
equipment there what okay that's weird so you can go in the pool well one of their new watches
is like very scuba oriented okay
and that's not a fitness thing though no but like anyone to scuba for fitness
no yeah but i mean it's their validation
lab for their wearables so yeah so they built a feature
for it that um uses like high frequency chirps
to communicate under the water okay cool with other
wearers of the same watch so you don't all have to have the same watch it'd be super annoying for the fish
but yeah inconvenient but um what else did they have they had a
200 meter track that way scuba for fitness i think you're doing it wrong
yeah that's not that's not for fitness
any who sorry yeah they have a 200 meter track that goes
outside the building and then back in that's cool i like that so for running and cycling so
they have like cycling machines but also actual this is wild
they have a european style village
it's actually about 10 minutes away from the validation place but they use it for validation as well because
some of their tracking features require actual like gps
like physical movement so you can't just be in the building
so we have this amazing footage
they just they were building an office and they're Huawei so because we
f**king can they themed it after like a european style
village so it's all like stone and is like
walking into uncanny like europe town well they have that like
they have like france in china or whatever yeah i think that's the one
eiffel tower and stuff oh no not that one okay yeah anyway it's it's trippy
so we have footage of them on like a basically
like glorified golf cart that has like 12 or 14 seats on it or something
like that and our camera operator sitting in the back and me ripping around on a
road bike in europe in china
anywho yeah what else do they have
they have a bunch of stuff like shooting archery
i didn't actually get to do those ones but i did do a lot of stuff one of the new watches
has fall detection so they have this wrestling dummy that they
can use to like drop off the climbing pole
so they let us drop the dummy we did
i don't know man we just they were they were super chill
about letting us basically do whatever we wanted in there so it's going to be
a pretty cool video i was like can i get a ladder sorry what
can i get a ladder they're like okay what do you want
to do with it i'm like i want to dunk so we have
so we have a shot of me like dunking and then it like pulls out
and you see that i'm just like standing on that's pretty good
should be good there was one where i dunked
and then dropped down and then the ball hit me in the head but bjorn
missed it so we don't yeah we don't have that one that's okay
which is a bummer anywho
i don't know why i was talking about that but i am back
and you can look forward to all those videos it was it was pretty fun i
haven't gotten to write that much in a while so i had adam there for
the kyoksia one and so he helped with some of the writing for that but i also
did a lot of it and then for the other three it was all all me
all the time and it was it was fun is the kyoksia one going to have to go
through like a bunch of brand review you better believe it i mean all
except the mall were sponsored so like it's not
i just i just am excited do this kind of thing without more dollars
attached to it oh no i more i more mean like anytime
we have a factory tour there's so much it's not the sponsorship dollars that i'm wondering about
it's the like there's so much like oh hey actually
this corner of this thing can't be shown so it needs to be
blah blah blah blah minor changes minor changes minor changes
minor changes delays for months buddy however bad you think this trip was
you are not even close in that
sense yeah and i don't and i don't even i'm not trying to
be mean to anyone i understand the challenges
on the side of the brand but it was
very very very very challenging
and it's always like that you know when you're looking at stuff that no one's
ever seen before like the number of times at
pretty much every stop that someone's like well we can't show that we've never shown that before
and i'm like brother why am i here then
i am here to show things that you've never shown before yeah that's
literally why you invited me that'll happen every time it is always happens
it is what it is always happens already says we're good to go now
do you want to fire up the safe they've been good to go my dude
some of our most iconic t-shirts
are back from the dead we're calling it the greatest hits
collection five of our best-selling t-shirts from the past few years have been reimagined
in both new and classic colors so if you missed out
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did we call it adblock t-shirt i can't remember i think it was called privateer
before but it says adblock on it no it doesn't
it says ab
the lock yeah exactly
it says a pirate ship lock i would never say adblock
i would say privateering yeah
what else we got ah yes the northern lights t-shirt is back
northern lights v2 i was gonna say it's slightly different right
no i think one of them is the original and then the other one is like a reimagined
red color way exactly how it was in the original i don't think so no because
it was on a green blank but yes the graph is in a circle too
so this is northern lights v2 if i recall correctly yeah yeah okay
um we also have
the classic GPU t-shirt again in a couple of
different color ways and in regular and tall i notice the
tall on i think all of these which is you better believe it we've got
tall blanks now we also have our CPU t-shirt
available in both shadow and black
wow because shadows aren't black i guess
wow and finally the do not drop t-shirt also
available in shadow i think this is what i'm most excited about i really like bat graphics
and this one has a cool bat graphics sure does super cool bat
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nice nice nice nice
all right we've got a couple more topics this is just
a conversation okay i want to talk
about this the trend towards login screens
having the username on one page and the password on another is it a trend
towards that it's it's a trend that is are you just using apple stuff more often
taking place over a very long period of time and is now deeply entrenched in many of the
services that i use i genuinely would like someone to explain
to me why this is a better experience than having both
on the same page i don't think anyone has done it for it to be a better experience
that's my take because like ages
ago google did it like man i'm trying to like how many over five years
ago at least and it's just like
you know that everyone wants to use password managers right
so we're just adding way more
interactions because now i go to the username page
and i have to interact with my password manager to auto fill that
then it goes to the password page or most infuriating
it expands a little bit and adds the password field
and then i have to interact with it again then i have to click
login then i have to go and open some kind
of two factor whether it's a passkey or whether it's
like you know a google authenticator code or whatever else or
email you might suck at using text message we'll have to explore that
um yeah whatever the point is i have to do something else yeah and then
i either have to revalidate my stupid thumb print
first when i first pick up my phone well not a thumb print i'm using an iphone right now
but you know i have to face stuff yeah on Android i have to
pick up my phone i have to biometrically authenticate then i have to tell it yes
this passkey yes that's me and then i have to biometrically authenticate again it's like bloody hell
i just unlocked my phone i don't want biometrically authenticate again i just did it
anyway then i often have to go back to the
page or have to wait around for the server to go oh yeah yeah yeah that he totally did
that and now i'm finally logged in why nice what if
what if both of the fields are just on the page and we could have slightly
fewer slightly fewer interactions in order to log into
a sacrifice yeah i mean i don't i don't have a
great answer for you i know some of it has to do with like
data security stuff i know someone has to do with maybe it's harder to brute
force things yeah spam login attempts was one thing that i could
think of stuff like that is the the only real reasons i've heard
in the past yeah slow down bots do it basically
just to mess with people that are not
playing correctly you know okay
um interrupt nefarious deeds
yeah i mean that's basically what jordan and the new type of writer
kind of said a bunch of people in chat are talking about sso stuff so determining if it's a corporate
account or a regular account determining the the type of account that it
is so then i mean okay this is something that drives me there's a better way to do that
crazy because yeah there's services that i use that
like teams for the longest time is a great example of this where you'd have
a completely separate app also called teams
right i just and uh and another another
really good one was actually i think i think keeper had this where you had to you had to
select a drop down whether it was like a corporate account or a personal account
was it keeper might have been something else uh that rings a bell but i
feel like i haven't seen that a long time but i'm sitting there going like okay
can't you just tell when i enter my email which one it is
and can't you just do that for me on the back back end
why do i have to tell you what kind of account it is well i think there's different like security
layers and stuff for fine you do it like why am i doing
it why do i have to tell you this you know it's a corporate account the second i put in a corporate
email and yeah they could probably have like
if you open teams it gives you a login box and you log
into that thing and then it authenticates you into
and loads whatever app you need i could see that happening sure i just
mean why make it the user's problem doing all of that work to solve
a problem for a relatively small amount of people
uh sydney brokett says they are doing it they need to hit a different flow a lot of the time
good do it on your side like i
i can understand why they don't
sure tell me then it's probably heavy it's probably expensive
might be annoying to dev developing things in companies like that takes
a very long time there's a lot of hoops and it might just never be approved
users most users don't care that much you are a bit
particularly horrific when it comes to security things i
log into a lot of stuff so anything around and on a lot of different devices
in a lot of different locations
countries vpn levels yeah
i log in i feel like i spend a significant
not double digits but a significant amount of work time fighting
with various logins i get prompted
so bloody much but then you want to be the admin to everything at the same time
what do i want to be the admin to you have specifically
gotten very frustrated many times over the history of this company
that you are not the admin of literally anything at any given time
you can't make that argument the only reason that i complain is when
i'm trying to do something and i don't have the access that i need
that's the same thing that's even worse that's still just a login problem
that's what i'm telling you what do you mean that's just a login problem
not having the login is an even worse login problem than it being inconvenient to login
but it's inconvenient to login in a lot of cases because you want admin level to everything
yeah but if i don't have it then i don't have the login but you could just have
like two accounts basically for everything you could have an admin level account
that's obfuscated and under a different keeper that is more annoying
but he won't do that that's because
we will run into a situation where it's like a weekend or something
and randomly i need access to something and i won't have it
and you could log into that account you could log into that other keeper
see he's not gonna do it but then this means that you need to have admin level securities
and that's gonna be super annoying it is super annoying
it blows something has to break the chain
he was so mad before the show because
in fairness to me you tried the flow and it didn't work
yeah and then knew immediately how to fix it because i've used a browser before
well no it's not okay hold on a second
i know but it's not that i don't know how to reinstall a browser extension
the issue is that these kinds of things come up for me all the f***ing time yeah that makes
it's constant every time i go to sign into something it's just a pain
yes and yes a lot of the time is self inflicted last night when i was trying to get
access to the WAN document i had just switched over to my iphone
and so i didn't have my pixel which has my stupid microsoft
passkey on it and so yeah i didn't migrate
i didn't migrate one of the f***ing two dozen bloody stupid
things that i rely on my phone for and so i wasn't able
to log into it at all because i didn't have it on me anymore
and because when i originally set up my microsoft account
the way the flow like dark patterned me into using the microsoft authenticator
yeah that's super annoying instead of my standard one that i normally use
so my pixel has also the one instance of the stupid microsoft authenticator on it
and so i just i couldn't get into an account and it was just really
frustrating because i switched devices a lot
i switched locations a lot and i switched which services i need
to a lot so it just i spent so much of my
life i feel like the biggest problem is the devices a lot thing which is
courier jobs well yeah you can really do about that but that's the the locations
a lot thing should be annoying once per location if everything
is operating properly which i understand is not quite the case
no because there's more than one location for every location because when i
go somewhere i'm going to be using it at the airport new location i'm
going to be using on the plane guess what new location i'm going to land
oh look a new location i'm going to go to the hotel oh now okay
i'm in china i'm using a vpn new fucking location
it's constant also you like teleported because of the vpn
probably probably so it's like that's sketchy he moved
really fast what's going on there drives me absolutely
he's not solved some of these issues yeah not really one of the biggest problems with hardware keys
is there's so many things that won't work with it yeah
like it's not a one stop solution and as soon as you have to
have sms as a as a two factor for something then that's
that's it's an attack vector you know and as soon as you have
to have this you know this other app it's an attack vector and so at a
certain point having the hardware key is just another potential
vector we often hear from
you know people that will say like oh why aren't like all your
services just sso based one a lot of
solutions will charge a wild increase in
in monthly cost per user to allow sso
because they know a lot of enterprises are just like no we are only going
to use sso for everything the other thing is that we use a ton
of things being a place that reviews consumer products we use
a ton of different logins which don't have it as an option and probably
never ever will so it's it's you you can't
just blanket everything has to be sso login either that doesn't work for
us at all yeah it's
it's it's frustrating
but and like okay even a hardware key that's that's an example of how
just with my job and all the various
options that I get pulled in even that the reason I stopped using
my ubi key was not because I like didn't like it or I thought it was you know bad
or whatever the reason I stopped using it was that often people need to borrow my keys
for some reason or another yeah we were just to be clear we were relatively
early adopters of ubi key yeah yeah way back
yeah super early like before 2014 or something way before they had like a type c
one you know yeah yeah and so like I will often
give bands my keys to they need to do
they need to do a shot now you can't log into things uses my yeah
yeah so what now yeah now I can't log in not convenient or you have to allow a bypass anyways
and then and then what's the point of even having the hardware key
this was this was a fun one is when we first adopted ubi key yeah it wasn't
supported by iPhone oh yeah so then we had to
build in workarounds for like everybody that had an iPhone and then it was just
like well why did we even bother to have the ubi key at all what are we doing yep
yep 100% because Apple still didn't allow third parties to access
their NFC chip and then they used lightning
instead of USB a which was
what the ubi keys had on them so there was no way to interface with an iPhone
anyway I seriously reconsider
SSO SSO is not an option
not for everything yeah we have it enabled for some stuff
and in some situations it annoys him as well just to be
clear he preferred the non SSO options which is
not I can't even single him out here that is true for other people at the office
as well SSO is not really
just automatic win yeah I end up in a really silly loop sometimes
because I and SSO is on me at least partially because I need to
go and fix this but I'll go to sign into
I'll go to sign into my Microsoft Teams account because I'll be logged in
AGAIN or logged out again rather the point so I go to sign into it
don't forget to check the box it doesn't work thank you to stay signed in one
so I'll go to sign into Teams and I won't know my Teams password because
I keep it in my Keeper I will go to sign into Keeper
and it will prompt me to enter a single sign on
so I will pull my phone out of my pocket log into my Keeper on my
phone which often I will need to use my two factor authentication
in order to do I am now four bloody steps into this
I will log into my Keeper I will get my Microsoft password
it is on a separate device so I will have to type it
onto my computer I will log into my Microsoft
to log into my Keeper to get the Microsoft password to be it into my Teams
and the only reason I would do that rather than just look up the Teams password
on my phone is because then I am logged in to Keeper
on my browser anyway so I can use it for other stuff because otherwise yes I could just pull my phone out
of my pocket check the password and log in there but no your first flow is the like correct one
because yeah you are going to have to use it again anyways like you said and then the hilarious one
is that I have my pass key for
my Microsoft account on my phone anyway so if I have to use
my pass key then I have to biometrically authenticate my phone click a thing
biometrically authenticate again click another thing yes it's me
I have to give them credit Google's login is fantastic
it's pretty okay oh is it you do you have your phone click yes
alright yeah yep
like oh hey it's pretty okay it's pretty okay compared to like basically everything out there
right now it's pretty good it often doesn't give me that option because it gets confused by all my devices and locations
and it's contextual it gives you that option
when it is like pretty sure yep
I do think that's cool though also belltrick says these are some first world problems
I mean what they are is their work frustrations and I think that's
something that we can probably all relate to anyone yeah like if there's anything
that you have to do at work that is completely unnecessary
in terms of like productivity it doesn't create
absolutely necessary mister I have to have admin to everything in terms of productivity
it generates nothing but it is necessary for security
I know but it's not productive though that's all I'm saying it doesn't get any work done
yeah yeah it gets zero anything
accomplished so yeah it's it's frustrating and it just it takes
it's a it's a time sap it's not it doesn't
make me more efficient it doesn't make me happier it doesn't make me more productive
it just is annoying
oh my god just easy you became putting a wall I'm going crazy that I can't
explain more that that just will not solve the problem
the the on my keys thing was like one version
of why it won't work and also all the services that it doesn't
work for and also just all the
times that it's not convenient like some help in some ways sometimes I'll be using
a device like this this happened a lot back when I was trying to use my
UB key is I would be using a device that doesn't have a type A port
it doesn't happen as often anymore but sometimes well it's going to start happening more and more
sometimes these things happen it's it's laptops are going all type C which there are
type C ones when there might be double ended ones Monty Hawk says dude you're an edge case
yes that's the whole point of the conversation
obviously obviously yes
come on however
however the fact that this happens
so much that it is very frustrating for me
is not does not mean that
for someone else for whom it is not that frustrating and doesn't happen that often
doesn't mean that it couldn't be better for them too it doesn't mean that my edge case
has no possible learning outcomes that could be applied
to other things could log in be better could security
be better and smoother for the user I yeah I think we can probably
all agree that it could be better does everyone have the same level of frustration
with that I do absolutely not but it could absolutely
also be better all right
I don't think there's a unless I'm looking at this picture wrong
I don't think there's a UB key that is A and
C there's A and sorry there's C in lightning
there's just A and there's just C
I don't think there's A and C
meaning that you're always going to have at least some amount of problem
neat
well I will continue to be frustrated about it and it'll be great
oh this is nice Google has shut down nest gen 2's
and this is the best part
they simply refuse to allow it to be controlled locally
it is now e-waste nice
terrific and I was talking about some smart home stuff recently and I said
sure I will finally give up but if I do
I have to ask to support Home Assistant
I'm not getting anything that is not able to be locally controlled
you shouldn't have to even through
like third party integrations I didn't find any category of device
that there wasn't an option for I meant individual products
yeah yeah so the discussion
over in r slash Home Assistant does it still work in Home Assistant
there's a bounty out there for it if it does and okhawk says the device uses
signed firmware there's literally a key that Google has in their
possession that would unlock the capabilities of the device but Google is
keeping it from device owners while simultaneously killing the devices that's what makes
this whole scenario so absurd we really
do need to legislate that people own the stuff
they buy and they don't it doesn't have to be
maintained anymore by the device manufacturer
I think that there's got to be some kind of limit
for how long you have to support a game or a service or a product
like in 100 years I wouldn't expect Google's cloud servers
to necessarily still talk to a nest too alright
in 200 years like wherever there's got to be somewhere you've got to draw a line
but when they EOL it they've got to
allow local interaction with it they've got to open source it
they've got to do something yeah and pk7 said it
somewhere I'm pretty sure but I can't find it in chat now
so I think it was pk7 of someone else no it was
this is from the same company that actually thought to convert Stadia controllers to bluetooth
it is interesting just different teams massive massive orgs
and different teams just acting differently so pretty frustrating just wanted to shine a light
and say hey that's pretty uncool Google
very uncool apparently there's
nooky just posted a reddit thread that apparently there's a team of people working to
crack them open that's obviously not a good thing
this isn't like hurray Google did a good thing but
looks like the community might be trying to react to it which is cool
cool shout out C C K O Simba
yeah yeah there's nothing really to look at now
they're saying that they should have it up on github by Monday the latest that's really exciting
very cool let's go
neat all right what else we got
LTT Labs articles yeah speaking of cool and neat I guess
we've got the two Labs articles we've got the Apple 40 watt
dynamic power adapter thing
which I thought was kind of interesting because it came by default in the
Apple vision pro box
so as I was like unboxing that I got all excited about the power adapter because I was like
we have an article on this which might be the lamest
thing I've done in a while but yeah we've got that article because Lucas was
basically like all right how does that work
yeah because it was dynamic charging the only power adapter
that can achieve the claimed 50% battery in 20 minutes of the iPhone
1717 pro and 17 pro max
so can it what does it mean etc if you scroll down to the bottom
dynamic of course we had to
check it out on the x-ray
this is so cool shout out Luma field for making it
so easy for us to see the inside so happy they've let us hold on to that
dude it's so cool absolute bros but yeah to just
keep going with Lucas's notes here Labs investigated whether logi bolt is really
bluetooth bl le we're not going to talk anymore about what I'm coming back to it or
not and Apple's new 40 watt dynamic power adapter for the 40 watt
dynamic power adapter the new USB-C power adapter from Apple which guarantees
40 watt output but will boost to 60 watts we tested
how this will actually interact while your phone is charging iphone's
charge below 40 watts anyways and some longer term test
to determine when it drops to 40 watts and we're potentially going to test some stuff
with it later on as well but if you go down even further
keep going this graph is quite interesting
so it's a little bit hard for me to read it from there maybe I should just bring it up myself
but you've got the output power and the input power of the actual
unit the charger and then we're thinking that
so time is your your x and wattage is your y
so we're thinking that it because it stays at 60 for quite a while at the beginning
and we think it's thermal so it's getting too hot
going down to 40 cooling enough going back up
to 60 and coming back down we think that's what's going on
interesting but don't know duty cycle of
roughly 66% after the initial warming up
huh so on average about 50.33 watts
this goes slightly against my theory of apple building a 60 watt charger
that couldn't achieve their temperature limits 51 watts is quite far off of
60 watts if this is interesting to you I suggest you
check out all things one place who conducts power adapter testing regularly
and made a video about the 40 watt dynamic charger very cool great article
I also read the the bolt um
logi bolt article it was awesome yeah basically
that was uh like you know in a in a in a ShortCircuit
video we said it was just a bluetooth dongle which is a downer
people got mad so we were like all right well let's uh let's dive into
this let's reach out to logitech let's get information from them let's
uh kind of pull some of our testing together and look into what this thing is
and as it turns out from a performance standpoint it's just bluetooth
from a performance standpoint yeah which is a little bit more to it exactly
why it was a bit of a downer but also there is more to it
and the community was right yes that um it does have
advantages over just just bluetooth but yeah check out the
lab site we've we've been pushing a lot of articles lately
and we want to keep doing this I think Lucas has been
um taking the charge on a lot of these of like
having a question of like what is this thing
how does it work and then just deciding that you know what if we had
that question probably someone else did too let's let's follow it up
let's try to figure it out um also clearly like with the the
logi bolt one um if if we get
called out on something which might be fair like it was here we're going to try to dive
into that and learn more as well this is a knowledge base expansion for for us for
our companies and hopefully for you guys as well so um
this one's really good too I've read this one why the AirPods Pro 3
are a nightmare to test uh very interesting
very different frequency response
uh at different volume levels I had some people
really mad about us saying that in the ShortCircuit they were like no
that's not how it works but it does
if the manufacturer tunes it to do that which is
exactly why we were saying yeah it's kind of weird um we worked with
Griffin from the headphone show on that one um pretty cool yeah we're also
trying to use this as like somewhat of a collaboration thing so we can like work with
certain external experts and stuff do you see our Buffalo makes a really good
point TechLink should be promoting new Labs articles
like primary source articles from the Labs like why not
it's news duh
seems kind of obvious to me definitely thought about that
yeah I never thought of it either that's cool like we have a new show
okay cool good chat neat I want to talk about
oh hold on let's do this really quick YouTuber CyperCPU
has accused Microsoft of orchestrating YouTube's removal of some of his
Windows 11 tutorials that enable users to install the OS on non-supported hardware
and without an online connection for violating the
platform's community guidelines after appealing the takedowns
he received a vague answer as to why the videos had been removed from YouTube that said
the warning strike you received was issued based on a violation of
harmful or dangerous content which prohibits content that encourages or promotes
behavior that encourages dangerous or illegal activities that risk
serious physical harm or death does bypassing TPM
2.0 really pose a serious risk of physical harm or death?
no if Microsoft is threatening
to kill or harm you if you don't take them down
very good very good our discussion question
here is why does Microsoft want to prevent people from using older computers with Windows 11?
why do they care? I don't know
it's been a little strange to me too especially because it's like
not that hard to bypass yeah so like
yeah why specifically are YouTube videos getting taken down
like it's not like you can't find these resources so can we just very easily
can we just not? that'd be cool
good chat I want to talk about how
I want to point out one thing really quick I just I don't know I showed it out
Lucas for coming up with cool articles and pursuing them and writing them and stuff
and that has been great thank you Lucas I also want to say that this has been like
a team effort from the lab so
I didn't want to just single out only only Lucas it's been it's been cool
I've been really enjoying that and one of our like
working order things for a bit now and continuing forward has just been
yeah if there's an interesting question follow it up so it's been I've appreciated
that the whole team has embraced that professionally curious is exactly
what we want in a department like that okay I got one more quick one here
AMD releases new Zen 2
and Zen 3 plus CPUs as Ryzen 10
and Ryzen 100 these new
CPUs based on Zen 2 include the Athlon Silver 10
which is a dual core the Athlon Gold 20
which is also a dual core although at least it has SMT
the Ryzen 330 a quad core and the Ryzen 5
40 also a quad core
the new Rembrandt CPUs based on Zen 3 plus are the Ryzen 3
110 the Ryzen 5 130 the Ryzen 5 150 Ryzen 7
Ryzen 7 based on Zen 3 plus now
come on man Ryzen 7
170 8 cores up to 4.57 gigahertz what are they doing
why do they need to do this can they just have the old can people can we just know it's an old
CPU and then just buy an old CPU
exhausting I'm
tired of it what we have is
driving Chinese EVs I don't know if you saw this
Prime Minister Mark Carney Canada's relationship with China is at a
turning point control F hold on oh no
I
hold on hold on hold on
hold on where is it here we go
here we go hold on this is not
oh yeah okay they discussed
solutions to respective sensitivities regarding issues including agriculture
and agri-food products such as canola as well as seafood and
electric vehicles according to the readout
so I don't know if folks know this but in lockstep with the US
Canada introduced 100% tariffs on
Chinese EVs a number of years ago which has made it basically
impossible for Chinese EV makers to import their vehicles
into Canada there's been a couple of exceptions vinfast tried
to kind of launch here and I think I've seen like two on the road but
I've not had a ton of success because with a 100%
tariff it's pretty hard to ship over here and
I don't think vinfast set up manufacturing here in any capacity
vinfast manufacturing in Canada
I don't think they did so they do not have
a very yeah no they have no manufacturing
in Canada oh are they Vietnamese?
oh they are there you go sorry vinfast you guys
are a very relevant brand and I cared a lot about where
you were from I'm sorry
anyway what I really want to talk about today
is oh shoot do I have
I was over in China recently and I did get a couple of
opportunities to chill in a Chinese EV
and you know how Ford CEO has gone
on the record a number of times at this point basically saying hey
if the North American auto industry doesn't get its act together
like we're cooked boys yeah
I don't know if there's going to be
an opportunity to get their act together
it's just holding them out with tariffs that's effectively all it is now
I think the cookage is
basically a foregone conclusion at this point man
in the car while I was over there that is going to
absolutely blow your mind when I finally find the bloody picture of it
and we get it up on screen here sorry
my sincere apologies I don't know what is going on did I take it on the iPhone
I don't think I did I
quick stall for time do a merge message or something I'm sorry
sure everything thank you
let's see what I can find here look this might be useful for you
hi DLL what's the worst case of we don't need a pro you've seen
I was helping run Wi-Fi for a festival 35,000 attendees with
80 unify ap's a marketing guy suggested replacing the system
with starlings what
nice worst case
of we don't need a pro I'm afraid you've seen some here
our entire company we can do that
we reinvent a lot of wheels let's just hire a recent graduate
should be fine figure it out
and it's way better for the content to figure it out as we go
yeah no I'm not a
convenient store robber I'm Duke from the season before
the last season of skype redwood that's pretty good too though
I don't know there's a ton of examples of that
it like here I mean we
we don't need a pro this is I'm slightly copping out
by saying we can just do this ourselves instead of use an external service
so series of professionals maybe I was going to say full play
nice like oh you can do that that was crazy that was stupid
that was probably one of the most brutal ones we've ever done yeah
it's working but like like my goodness
it literally is like a multi-million dollar a year
success multi-platform at this point
it's working it's just it powers us, sauce plus
a lot of other creators on Floatplane like I don't know man
we kind of you know yeah you kind of did it
it has cool future plans the team's kind of amazing
we finally have a dev team yeah which is cool
who has done all kinds of other cool stuff like I don't know
I really like working on Floatplane stuff our whole like
I just do, feels like home I feel like we kind of fail upward a lot
you know you know what I mean right
not in the way that that normally is meant right like failing upwards is when you're like incompetent
and you get kind of pushed out but into like a higher position
kind of like a nepotism sort of connotation like we but we've just managed to
screw up our way to the top but like
like it actually worked like it didn't fail yeah but it should have
yeah it was just way harder than it needed to be
that was most of it decision-making failure
I had a lot of conversations with people where it would start as like
you shouldn't do this because you can't and then it would end up being like
okay fine
you can but like why I didn't listen to that part
I just listened to that you can't like no we can
yeah did you figure your thing out yeah yeah
I rode okay don't wait not yet
so I rode in a couple of cars so one of them was part of the Huawei demo at their
flagship store which includes everything if I was asked to
design a store to showcase everything from like wearables to TVs
to automobiles I wouldn't even know where to start but honestly they kind of nailed it
so they had some cars that had like partner technologies in their
showroom so we went a test drive and one and it's got
voice activation this and assisted driving whatever
that and like you know it's kind of cool
but this one the one that they used
to drive us between the locations where they were just like showing off Huawei technology
integrations and vehicles absolutely blew my mind
and I agree with Ford CEO
we're cooked over here we're cooked check this out
first one yeah so this is me and Sharad
in the back of a whatever this is I actually can't remember what the model name is
so that's embarrassing we have a starry night sky
thing above us sure in the
next to by Sharad's
elbow okay so you can see all the seat adjustments in there and then right next to
that each seat has a little like pop out
phone like device that you can use to control the
various functions in the car including the heating
cooling of your seat the temperature
of the fridge that's between us so there's a little like
fridge that could hold maybe like a wine bottle or a couple of other drinks
in between us where that like Kleenex thing is
okay now
are you a little impressed yeah but it just looks like
an expensive back of a car all right hit them with the next one
wow so
you could mod that in but it's a
it's very pit my ride so in between our heads
is a projector and you press a button
that lowers a projector screen
the Windows what's it called
electro-chromatic leg room is this a really long car
it's meant to be it's the kind of car you're meant to be
a passenger vehicle or whatever it's called yeah so it's kind of competing with
like you know the roles the Maybach
exactly and okay sorry what was I saying
so the projector screen comes down
there is a camera you can see there's a webcam up at the top of the
so you can like take a conference call it's good
sure but also so you can take a conference call
you know and have all the other meeting
attendees on the projector screen the Windows are
I believe they are what's it called
electro-chromic and they have like a filter
that comes up so they have like a sunshade that comes up to make it actually quite dark
in the back there's wireless charging
in the armrest there's two little slips where you can
slip your phone into right by that piece of paper nice I see that
Sherrod was joking really all these features and no cupholder
retractable cupholder that's under where the charging is
so you kind of hit a button and then it pops out in between us
the seats fully recline and adjust oh they have massage
and cooling and one of the really wild features
you can go back to us is it includes a privacy mode
so that the passengers in the front can't hear you
or the front passenger and the driver can't hear you
and we were like okay well that's stupid there's no way that works
and then Sherrod pressed it and it turns out that it doesn't just try to like
ANC what you're saying because that would be we don't have that technology
but what it does is it adds it like an echo loop
and a bunch of sort of noise
it sort of salts the data so to speak
while probably also doing the ANC stuff yeah
I didn't actually try sitting in the front unfortunately
I didn't really get a chance but pretty wild
now was it this thing oh yeah that's it
yeah so no key found it of course hold on hold on don't look too closely yet
I want you to I want you to guess
what it costs I stopped it from being there but it's still on my screen
hold on hold on hold on okay first of all
so what does it look like
what's a ghost cost okay 400k is my guess
600k if you don't customize anything
the options blah blah which currency are we talking
commission you don't buy you don't buy a ghost you commission
a ghost so I actually don't remember how much they cost
oh yes do they even have a starting price
for crying out loud make an inquiry okay forget it the point
is probably about half a million dollars by the time you actually like
do anything is the ghost the expensive one I don't even think that's the top
of the line though that's like their that's like their kind of their workhorse
is my understanding I don't I don't know their lineup extremely well I've never
bought a rolls sorry uh
lowest possible is like 355
okay what I'm seeing it can go a lot higher is the phantom their
starter I actually can't remember the peasant spine
ghost yeah I'm actually not sure I think the cullinan is higher end that's the
suv right yeah uh
I don't know what the specter is yeah I can't remember
okay anyway anyway
how much do you think the mic stroll costs 80k
okay why would you why would you guess that
I don't know I didn't look it up I don't I'm assuming I'm
not correct no you're not right but yeah I'm just wondering why you would guess
$80,000 like what could what else could you buy for $80,000 it's it's like
cheaper than the high-end Teslas
but more expensive than like I don't know other stuff
starts at about 100k okay but we're still
it's an EV so it comes with like batteries
which are a cost that you know a gasoline competitor
doesn't have to deal with yeah um so you you never have to put
gas in it it is
like you're sitting on a couch basically in the back of it it's crazy
I did I think I told you when I was in China I got
chauffeured around one time in the back of a Maybach and I had
the same feeling I sat in that chair and was just like what the heck
it's weird it feels almost uncanny it's like
this isn't a car what am I in right now so the price
range is 100 to 140
for this and look I'll be honest with you guys
I've never even sat in a ghost I've never I've never sat in a Rolls-Royce
but to my ignorant you know
unrefined buttock
I'm looking at this I'm looking at this thing going
how is it realistically going to get way beyond
this thing this would be the pinnacle
of luxury to most people some of these pictures are nuts
yeah here let's see this is the
I can't make these bigger mic straw or whatever
I mean you can just zoom your browser just to give it the little two finger
you know what I'm saying oh yeah did I
oh yeah did I mention the starry sky in it has like different
modes it can twinkle it can do shooting stars
the starry sky feels like a rip a bit of a rip
huge huge screens
it's something that people do in Rolls-Royce though
that's what I'm saying I think it's a rip oh a rip off 100%
100% in the yeah those speakers in the chair
sure why not like it's it's loaded
for bear man wow
is this is this like the seat in front of them is gone
oh no it folds down yeah okay yeah that's wild
so you can get extremely comfy is this this is someone's
phone or is this the tablet thing you're talking that's the little tablet controller thing
so it's pretty wild dude
oh yeah it has the airplane table fold out thing I forgot about that
no no on the left yeah so you have a little table at both of the
back seats laptop or whatever yep or you can eat or you're
swishky trunk yep
trunk
what is this
I think they're trying to show matrix headlamps
no I don't think so
interesting
yeah
huh all right it's available in multiple options
okay yep all right anyway
very interesting it's uh
I had I I had been you know reading about
following from a distance so that are a cyber truck right
like seriously though yeah I
I don't think that would make an insane splash
I don't think that would make as insane of a splash in the North American market that people might
think they're gonna need a good truck
oh yeah apparently BYD's truck is like 35k or something like that
see like that might make a bigger splash because you've got to fight the f-150
there's no like there's no ignoring the f-150 and trying to enter
the North American market heck no so yeah
and that's still gonna be it's BYD so I'm assuming that's an electric truck still
I think it's a hybrid yeah it's it's no good 63
their Ford Ranger size pickup with a one cylinder
allows up to 500 miles of range and is 35,000 US dollars
yeah see that'll be that's a more interesting fight
in my opinion yeah opcode says how does it compare to your
Taycan in terms of quality it's a very different
car like it's not it's not intended to
compete with a Taycan it's a floating couch yeah
whisks you from location to location the Taycan is meant to be driven
whereas the Mike show is intended to be driven
around in right so it's totally different the Mike shows a
snuggie in the Taycans like a running shoe yeah
terrible analogies in terms of like like the fit and finish
of it though I'll be honest with you I didn't look that closely because I was too
busy being impressed by the sum of the parts rather than the
individual parts sure if we were doing like a full review or something like that
that would be a different story but nothing stood out to me as being junkie I can tell you
that much for sure oh shoot I have
to go pretty quick because I have to take my kids surprise you're still here
trick or treating no no I'm good we're done the topics we're done the topics
we haven't done F.P. announcement merch massages our most
successful Floatplane video ever was when LMG employees
shared their first memories of meeting me
oh wow yep that's a pretty strong
like dislike ratio um so we made a sequel
featuring Yvonne Colton and Plouf who owns a
display and more oh and yes there will be a video
of me reacting to the sequel in November oh good I haven't done that yet but apparently
we're going to be doing that so get some laughs and maybe a little bit of
secondhand embarrassment at LMG.GG slash Floatplane
excellent alright Dan should we do a couple merch messages?
sounds good to me hit me sure let's see why does it seem
like every tech tuber praises the 9070 9070
XT on camera and FSR4 yada yada but off camera
they're all running NVIDIA GPUs feels like a bit of do as I say not as I do
I I'm running a 7900
XTX let the record show so I don't know
in my opinion when praise is happening they're often probably talking about
price performance and then they can have whatever they want so they take the
performance and do not care about the price that's the answer
that's the real answer the only reason I'm running a 7900 XTX
is because I committed to skipping the 40 series
um and otherwise I would have just run
a 4090 greetings DLL
Linus with the Canadian post strike why does creator warehouse
still ship to PO boxes when the LTT Store site says to avoid them
I use my street address but the merch still comes Canada post
wow what a tremendous question for creator warehouse customer service
I think you should send them a message and maybe they
can explain that I have no idea I want to shout out
our amazing CW team Tony and Dave
and Adam and the rest of the customer care team and Taryn
and everyone who has worked really hard on you know resolving
the challenging logistics situation that has taken place
this year we've had to deal with tariffs from our southern neighbors we've had to deal with tariffs
from our manufacturing neighbors we've had to deal with flipping
the strike from Canada post we've had a lot of multiple times I think we've had a lot of
on our plate this year and our team has done an amazing job of figuring
out how to get your thing to you and shout out them and if you want the specifics
you'll have to ask them because they're the experts
what an answer good answer this guy's been doing this for a little bit professional
what a guy this one I wasn't too sure about maybe you could help me
parse it started an RE photo comp with a few family
members and have hit 30 in revenue and we
are trying to learn to scale fast and trying to figure out the best route
is pacing ourselves or just spamming the phone
thanks a photo comp
photo competition few family members RE
I'm not sure 30 in REV 30 K I'm assuming
maybe they're hosting a competition maybe you have to pay to enter the competition spamming the phone
that I don't know
okay nobody else understands what they're talking about either RE
photo comp started RE photo comp
next okay yeah sorry I was struggling to genuinely
tried hey DLL question for Linus how's the new winter jacket coming
along real estate photo company
oh my god I real estate no no no no no
Imperator in full plane chat said real estate that makes so much more sense real estate photo
company they hit 30 K in revenue they something something
or just spamming photos on a phone what was the other thing they were saying hitting the phone I think they
were looking how to scale fast right they wanted to scale up and
they weren't sure how to do that without just like hitting the phone which is probably
more like cold calling pacing ourselves or just spamming
the phone spamming the phone cold calling he's probably right
why this is a I mean it's gonna be all networking in that industry
like it's all old boys club so to speak
so you definitely want to make connections and everything else is
kind of secondary honestly as someone who's looked through real estate listings
man almost their photos terrible learn how to do HDR
better than like 90% of everybody and you're fine
there's some actually really good is not a high bar there is a lot of really good
YouTube tutorials but if you've already got 30 K in revenue you're fine
you know what you're doing yeah keep it up Congrats on
on growing it at a staging company keep it up
yeah staging is makes such a big difference or do okay so yeah probably
but a bunch of people are doing people are gonna like this but
like AI staging stuff lately it is actually very
surprisingly good because you can see the photo of the room empty and the photo
of the room with stuff in it and it's cool being able to see both idea
um new winter jacket
oh okay you'll have to do another one while I look
that up um
hi dll are you aware of
the development of 3d printed medication and the potential for multiple prescriptions to be
combined into one pill and you have thoughts about it
how does that make any sense why would you 3d print them
well maybe because you want like different release schedules or whatever
because like you know they can have different coatings and they can have different like capsules
and stuff that release at different times but why would you want to 3d print that
I don't know maybe it's more maybe it's like helps with the
complexity how do you ensure they're mixed properly
I don't know I don't know I'm not a doctor I'm just saying I like 3d printing
don't wait really
someone needs to clip that we need to clip that dad we need that clip
he knows what I mean yeah
I was in a couple time stamps uh
thermochromic jacket is expected to hit in
November so soon
but I don't want to nail down an exact week because things happen sometimes
but that's when it's expected hi LLD looking for
advice moving to rural Australia for work in the next
25 52 weeks steam deck versus xbox
ally versus laptop reviews seem to indicate ally x is under cooked
my friends use xbox online
I mean but these are all PCs the steam deck
with xbox online question mark
um I mean the laptop
if you can only have one the laptop has the most utility if you can get
one that supports a I don't think this one supports it but like like a
tent mode you know where it folds the other way and you can just
put it like this but with the screen on the outside very nice on a thing
with a controller that's pretty sick like if you can only have one I'd want the one that has
a keyboard I'm also personally leaning laptop but I
didn't answer right away because I don't have either the other ones so I'm a little bit
biased here yeah
and I don't know how much like a Strix Halo laptop costs this
this HP one my understanding is pretty
pretty expensive
it is true like the the steam deck is going to be
by far the cheapest option like one of the issues this question is you're asking
an insane variety in price
yeah I mean the steam deck is the best bank for the buck that's the easiest one to recommend but
as for the ally xbox ally x whatever stupid
thing is called also do you need to do more stuff on it it's it's
it's pretty good like I don't know what to tell you it's um
I think people are just frustrated because Microsoft sold it as something that it
wasn't as a small computer that's pretty
d's it's great yeah that's not the last question
maybe more of a general question my work has
a stupid new no graphic tease policy but the text isn't
banned we make a shirt that says shirt in giant text on it
how does that fit in with like your branding or your like
is that something that you would ever do or do you want to make like cool stuff
because like shirt that says in giant text is like
kind of my aesthetic in a way I love that type of stuff
okay pondering I mean do enough of you want this like is
that a thing I figured yeah can you make ASCII images that's
just text see that that sort of tickles my malicious compliance
but that's fantastic a lot more than the other one does it kind of made me think
of the the no-name brand like merch products that they do
we'll tell you what we'll do the ASCII one ASCII sounds like a cool idea
I like an ASCII art shirt I like that idea yeah thanks Amaria that sounds like a great point
okay could do I send this too okay I'll
the next time we do a Linux challenge we should both be required to
make a cool little you know
can I use the term to rice it out in a really cool way
that is the official term that is what people call it I'm just saying sure
we'll go with that and there is cool stuff that they do with ASCII art in that
process and we should we should do that that should be part of it
whatever leave me alone I don't know what else to call it
modify yeah but it doesn't
it doesn't encapsulate the that's true whatever
whatever you've been waiting for a turn yeah I have been waiting
so long for this to come back they have bought the northern lights
t-shirt tall yeah thank you for doing tall graphics
is this our first tall graphic and it's like five of them or something
that's actually very exciting I need to order them immediately
yeah I've been waiting so long for this to come back
what is the oldest used hardware you'd recommend picking up right now
oh man it depends on what you're trying to do I mean
open ended my uncle
needed a laptop with a CD ROM drive in it
and so we just grabbed some
like vista machine and
it will never be connected to a network so it doesn't matter because it's for
loading data from some CD
resource into some computer and it has to like live there because it has to be
used periodically and connected to that thing
and it's just like well that's the oldest hardware that I'd recommend for that
it just depends on what you're trying to do running a Windows XP machine today
if it was completely offline it's totally fine tons of them still work that way
in terms of what I would actually connect to the internet I would want something that is modern enough
to run an operating system that's still getting updates if it's Windows that means not that old
but if it's Linux go ham nice
dynastook and lan do sponsors pay extra for Riley to do
his amazing singing ad spots or does he do them just because he can
yes both of those things
he's kind of been a bit of a spiritual successor for what
Dennis was doing with what we call CSPs or creative
sponsor placements or something like that I forget what it's short for but
it was CSR creative sponsor reads but then
I was like that sounds too close to customer service representative and I'm never going to know what you're talking about
so we changed it to CSP and it is something
that sponsors can pay extra for and we do show them hey there's increased
retention there's increased click through like there's all these
benefits you should probably do this I have had two merge messages this evening
asking for a compilation I could see that being
something we might do on the clips channel at some point but yeah I know he's been
killing it cannot say
enough how impressed I have been with Riley's
work on that I am blown away not just Riley it's a team effort
it's not just Riley they have to be they have to be shot and edited and stuff
but like massive shout out to the team
so cool spin nuts last one I got for you today
good evening Linus, Luke and Dan what wireless technology do you think might
compete or replace Bluetooth do you think RF headphones would ever make a comeback
whatever happened to li-fi oh
I don't know man I mean there's only so much spectrum like it's one of those things where it's like
man what new continents do you think we could discover
you know over the last thousand years we've just western civilization
has discovered a continent at approximately a rate of one every 200 years
you know well like yeah okay
but here's a really controversial take
modern BTLE
pretty good there's more that could be done for user friendliness
but like why can't I have multi-channel with good audio
and a mic at the same time in current year
I am upset I agree with that
but it's still bluetooth you could just make bluetooth less garbage
and they are dual stream like bluetooth is continuing to get betterer
and I mean as far as I can tell the major constraint
is just that we all want it to be cheap if you could do 2.4GHz
communication expensively well it would be
better look at all the 2.4GHz dongles that exist that are
better than bluetooth but we want it to be low power we want it to be cheap
and we want it to have good range and we want it to have
a wide data path and we want it to have all these things
and it's like well look in the real world you don't get everything
so wait I think it will continue
to get better as for li-fi that's a good question I would love to know what happened to li-fi
and I was lying there's one more Linus you mentioned you still occasionally play halo infinite
do you prefer 4v4 modes or big team battle halo isn't halo to me
what about vehicles and at least 8 vs 8 I generally play 4v4
I find big team battle a little too chaotic for my boomer brain
that's all I got my apologies
thanks for tuning into the WAN Show we'll see you again next week same bad time same bad channel
I would have just stayed there I would have waited
I know I gotta go though he gave up early oh yeah bye
who knows
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