WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:05.760 It took us over three years to build a $500 PC that could beat the PlayStation 5. 00:00:05.760 --> 00:00:09.120 And even then there were some compromises. 00:00:09.120 --> 00:00:14.080 And now we're conspiring to murder the PS5 Pro in less than a week? 00:00:14.080 --> 00:00:21.040 It shouldn't be that hard. I mean that $200 price bump that everyone is angry about frees up a lot of money for our budget. 00:00:21.040 --> 00:00:29.520 Except for one small problem, David. While $200 is certainly a lot of money, it doesn't buy that much these days. 00:00:29.600 --> 00:00:35.440 And while we could have taken the easy path and just thrown a better GPU into our original killer, 00:00:35.440 --> 00:00:38.720 this is LTT. We don't play on easy mode. 00:00:38.720 --> 00:00:42.880 When we're done, we're going to have upgraded graphics, more features, 00:00:42.880 --> 00:00:50.640 a case that doesn't look straight out of the Fallout universe, and the same or better performance than the PS5 Pro. 00:00:50.640 --> 00:00:54.000 But be warned, this ain't going to be a smooth ride. 00:00:54.000 --> 00:00:57.440 Unlike the smooth segue. To our sponsor. 00:00:57.440 --> 00:01:00.000 Shut up. Oh, that's my boss. 00:01:10.960 --> 00:01:17.040 I'm not going to lie. It was pretty cool when I heard the PS5 killer mentioned by the Mark Cerny, 00:01:17.040 --> 00:01:22.400 lead system architect on the PS4 and PS5, even if he was being kind of salty about it. 00:01:22.400 --> 00:01:27.040 I mean to be clear, I think he recognized that our declaration of victory 00:01:27.600 --> 00:01:34.400 was obviously tongue in cheek, and that we do fully appreciate the gaming value that's on display from the PS5 hardware. 00:01:34.400 --> 00:01:39.040 But he clearly still felt the need to call us out on shortcuts that we used, 00:01:39.040 --> 00:01:43.360 like the fact that we used a secondhand motherboard in our system 00:01:43.360 --> 00:01:46.800 while comparing it to a brand new disk based PS5. 00:01:47.440 --> 00:01:50.800 But here's what you got wrong, Marky, my guy. 00:01:50.800 --> 00:01:53.920 It was all used parts, not just to use motherboards. 00:01:53.920 --> 00:01:56.720 So wait, no, that's worse. 00:01:57.840 --> 00:02:01.920 And Mr. Cerny wasn't the only one to take issue with that comparison. 00:02:01.920 --> 00:02:07.120 Many commenters accused us of giving an unfair advantage to team PC. 00:02:07.120 --> 00:02:11.200 But as you would expect from any coverage of this topic, 00:02:11.200 --> 00:02:17.440 the angry comments came from the other side too, with many of you accusing us of favoring team console. 00:02:18.080 --> 00:02:23.360 Linus, you said. You didn't place enough value on the extra flexibility of the PC. 00:02:23.440 --> 00:02:27.120 On the free online play or the cheaper larger game library. 00:02:27.120 --> 00:02:30.560 But guys, look, not every video can be about every topic. 00:02:30.560 --> 00:02:38.320 And today our goal is straightforward. We are going to beat the PS5 Pro in visual fidelity and frame rate at the same price. 00:02:38.880 --> 00:02:45.280 We are still going to allow secondhand parts because, yes, Mark, we do need shortcuts to beat your wonderful machine. 00:02:45.280 --> 00:02:49.200 But we are going to uncut as many other corners as possible, 00:02:49.200 --> 00:02:52.560 which means getting the absolute most out of every penny we spend 00:02:52.560 --> 00:02:57.120 starting with our CPU, the Intel Core i5-12400F. 00:02:57.120 --> 00:03:00.320 And I can already hear you saying, Linus, Intel for gaming? 00:03:01.040 --> 00:03:05.920 And yeah, to be clear, the AMD 5600X would have been our ideal pick. 00:03:05.920 --> 00:03:09.040 And if they were priced identically, we would have gone team red, 00:03:09.040 --> 00:03:16.000 just like Sony did for the PS5 Pro. But when we can save about $30 and still get a better CPU 00:03:16.000 --> 00:03:21.120 than what's in any version of Sony's white monolith, it's kind of a no-brainer. 00:03:21.120 --> 00:03:25.120 Once again, we aren't going with the exact specs of the machine we're competing against. 00:03:25.120 --> 00:03:28.320 We've actually got two fewer processing cores, 00:03:28.320 --> 00:03:34.000 but our cores are more powerful than Sony's, meaning that in gaming, we should come out ahead. 00:03:34.000 --> 00:03:39.360 And the included cooling, that's a nice little bonus for additional savings. 00:03:40.800 --> 00:03:43.840 The leap over to team blue comes with other benefits as well. 00:03:43.840 --> 00:03:47.200 Now that the LGA1700 platform has been out for a few years, 00:03:47.200 --> 00:03:55.040 there are some cheap motherboards out there. Like this ASRock B660M HDV that we found for under $40. 00:03:55.040 --> 00:03:59.680 Now you don't need to go for this one in particular. In fact, if it wasn't for the outstanding deal we got, 00:03:59.680 --> 00:04:04.800 we would have preferred something with a couple of Gen4 NVMe slots and built-in Wi-Fi. 00:04:04.800 --> 00:04:09.680 But going used means you need to be flexible and snag whatever works and is cheap. 00:04:09.680 --> 00:04:14.880 But hey, at least being B660, it does support higher speed XMP memory kits. 00:04:15.600 --> 00:04:20.240 Like this one. This, our 16 gig kit of G-Skill RipJaws 5. 00:04:20.240 --> 00:04:23.280 Now it's worth noting that because of our CPU choice, 00:04:23.280 --> 00:04:27.440 we could have gone with DDR5 and a DDR5 motherboard. 00:04:27.440 --> 00:04:32.320 But this kit was just 20 bucks and every penny counts, 00:04:32.320 --> 00:04:36.560 especially now that we need to match the PS5 Pro's 2TB of storage. 00:04:38.080 --> 00:04:41.840 And we did! Or at least we were supposed to. This is 1TB. 00:04:41.840 --> 00:04:46.480 It was marked in inventory as 2TB. We're still counting the price of a 2TB one against our total. 00:04:46.480 --> 00:04:51.360 I see. Okay, now you probably noticed this is a pretty decent looking SSD. 00:04:51.360 --> 00:04:56.640 Last time around we didn't have a high-end SSD and we justified our choice by pointing out that 00:04:56.640 --> 00:04:59.680 it doesn't really have an impact on real world gaming performance. 00:04:59.680 --> 00:05:03.040 But this time we're challenging ourselves to do better 00:05:03.040 --> 00:05:08.960 and we found something that meets Sony's minimum recommended requirements for a secondary drive. 00:05:08.960 --> 00:05:12.400 And we went with the WD Black SN850X, 00:05:12.400 --> 00:05:19.120 which we found for a little under $75, and which happens to be Tom's hardware's pick for best PS5 SSD. 00:05:19.120 --> 00:05:23.680 Though it should be noted that there are other options out there at very reasonable prices. 00:05:26.160 --> 00:05:28.880 You smell that? That's the smell of a right angle. 00:05:29.760 --> 00:05:31.760 Get it? Because we didn't cut the corner anymore? 00:05:32.800 --> 00:05:41.520 Anyway, for our case, we chose this perfectly decent mid-size NZXT H510 that we found for $30 on Facebook Marketplace. 00:05:41.520 --> 00:05:44.560 Okay, eagle eyes, it's not the exact same one, but come on. 00:05:44.560 --> 00:05:48.400 What's the point of us buying that black one that someone else could use 00:05:48.400 --> 00:05:54.000 when we have this white one sitting in our warehouse? And besides, the point is not the exact case. 00:05:54.000 --> 00:05:57.600 There are a ton of options out there around this price point, 00:05:57.600 --> 00:06:01.520 including some much more fun ones if you don't mind rolling the dice. 00:06:02.080 --> 00:06:06.640 We also found some older model cases that have support for an optical drive if that's your thing, 00:06:06.640 --> 00:06:12.560 but we won't need one this time around because the PS5 Pro doesn't have one either. 00:06:13.120 --> 00:06:15.840 Thanks for the free right angle, comrades of Ken Kuduragi. 00:06:17.520 --> 00:06:22.000 When it comes to raw power, there are any number of power supplies that could do the job, 00:06:22.000 --> 00:06:25.280 but we didn't want a shoddy heartbeat for our Sony Slayer here, 00:06:25.280 --> 00:06:29.360 so after looking through a number of reputable units at the right price, 00:06:29.360 --> 00:06:33.760 we settled on this Corsair CX750 for $35. 00:06:33.760 --> 00:06:40.560 $750? Yeah, that sounds kind of overkill considering that the PS5 Pro draws less than half of that, 00:06:40.560 --> 00:06:45.040 but we're going to need it to power a GPU that can beat the Pro, 00:06:45.040 --> 00:06:49.760 which I guess brings us perfectly to the star of any good gaming PC. 00:06:49.760 --> 00:06:54.800 And also the star of the PS5 Pro, if you consider that the GPU changes 00:06:54.800 --> 00:07:03.520 are the only ones that really impact performance. Sony made a big deal out of the big three, larger GPU with 45% better raw performance, 00:07:03.520 --> 00:07:08.480 more advanced ray tracing hardware, and a new AI-driven upscaling that they call PSSR. 00:07:09.120 --> 00:07:12.960 Ever since the announcement, I've been very eager to get my hands on this bad boy 00:07:12.960 --> 00:07:18.640 to see what kind of PC card that's going to translate to in the real world. 00:07:19.360 --> 00:07:25.120 We can make some guesses, the closest comparison could be a downclocked 7800 XT, 00:07:25.760 --> 00:07:33.920 but the not yet seen ray tracing hardware and custom better than FSR, but not quite DLSS upscaling 00:07:33.920 --> 00:07:38.880 makes us wonder if we're going to need to wait for AMD's 8000 series for a tree equivalent. 00:07:39.520 --> 00:07:44.000 One way to avoid giving up features would be to go for an NVIDIA RTX 4070, 00:07:44.000 --> 00:07:48.960 because as Digital Foundry pointed out, its feature set more closely matches the new console. 00:07:48.960 --> 00:07:56.000 But when it came to decision time, we felt that this XFX Quick 7800 XT with its higher 00:07:56.000 --> 00:08:00.880 raw performance would make up for the lack of shiny features and help us secure another win 00:08:00.880 --> 00:08:05.280 for Team PC. What are we looking at for our total? 655 dollars. 00:08:05.280 --> 00:08:10.400 Wait, really? That leaves enough for a sketchy Windows key, that 8bitdo controller we checked 00:08:10.400 --> 00:08:14.800 out recently, and even some stick logs from LTTstore.com to cover those precious analog 00:08:14.880 --> 00:08:19.680 nubbins during transport. But I couldn't help noticing there's still no Wi-Fi 7. 00:08:20.720 --> 00:08:28.640 Okay, well that's a bit of a corner, isn't it? But, but, hold on. If we built this machine using the absolute lowest prices we found, 00:08:28.640 --> 00:08:32.960 Scrapyard War style, maybe we could get it at a lower price? 00:08:32.960 --> 00:08:42.400 535 dollars. Not bad. That's a potential $165 of budget to play with for a Wi-Fi card and, I don't know, 00:08:42.400 --> 00:08:47.760 other stuff. But would you use the money for Linux? That's a tough question, because you're not going to go up another class of GPU, 00:08:47.760 --> 00:08:51.760 and you could upgrade your CPU, but that's probably not going to affect gaming performance 00:08:51.760 --> 00:08:57.040 that much. I think the best use of it is a pretty well-rounded system. Probably just go for some 00:08:57.040 --> 00:09:04.240 games. Speaking of, let's do a side-by-side. How close are we here? I definitely am seeing 00:09:04.240 --> 00:09:08.240 some weird moire in my rug. Me as well. But, oh, you are too. 00:09:08.240 --> 00:09:13.040 Yeah. Right now I've set our PC to the PS5's Ray Trace performance mode, which is 00:09:13.040 --> 00:09:17.680 the ideal way to play on PS5 base, but we probably want to mess with the settings a little bit to 00:09:17.680 --> 00:09:20.560 get a little more visual fidelity and see what we can squeeze out. 00:09:21.360 --> 00:09:25.360 Question for you. Where is it? Oh, yeah, no. We're still getting some pop-in from the confetti. 00:09:26.480 --> 00:09:31.760 It looks about the same on both of them. Honestly, when we did the ShortCircuit on the PS5 Pro, 00:09:31.760 --> 00:09:35.120 I didn't find that the PS5 and the Pro looked that different in this game. 00:09:35.840 --> 00:09:41.760 And I'm having a hard time picking anything. Oh, the grass. Your grass is noticeably higher 00:09:41.760 --> 00:09:46.480 fidelity than mine. Yeah. Okay. If I want to catch up, I'm going to have to change that. 00:09:46.480 --> 00:09:50.320 Nothing here looks like it's going to help with that. All I can really do is... 00:09:50.320 --> 00:09:53.920 I think it's just resolution and FSR. So FSR will be in display. 00:09:53.920 --> 00:09:58.400 Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Interesting. Does it look closer to yours right now? 00:09:58.400 --> 00:10:01.760 Yeah. Because we looked at... I swear, when we were looking at it before, it was... 00:10:03.600 --> 00:10:07.280 Hold on. Okay, I'm going back. Oh, yeah. Now it's poo-poo again. 00:10:07.280 --> 00:10:11.360 That's so interesting. It's so blurry. What do I have to change to make it operate? 00:10:11.360 --> 00:10:14.960 Like it does in the menu. Look at this. Am I supposed to be able to see what I'm changing? 00:10:16.240 --> 00:10:20.960 No, definitely not. We're definitely getting 1% lows below 60. 00:10:21.600 --> 00:10:29.600 Ray tracing is on, which is definitely not the 7800 XT's, you know, Forte, but that's the tradeoff. 00:10:29.600 --> 00:10:34.800 I think in this game, we're going to have to say there's an advantage for the PS5 Pro. 00:10:34.800 --> 00:10:39.520 It is an exceptionally well-optimized game, even on the base PS5. So the PS5 Pro just 00:10:39.520 --> 00:10:44.800 gets that extra little bit. However, with that said, if you had me blind taste test these, 00:10:46.160 --> 00:10:51.200 I would not object to either of them. This is a great experience if you want to play Rift Apart. 00:10:51.840 --> 00:10:57.120 I watched something that I've been curious to see for myself and I would be able to tell the 00:10:57.120 --> 00:11:03.440 difference with PSSR for one big issue, which is some of its upscaling looks like it's moving. 00:11:03.440 --> 00:11:07.520 If you look at those lines in the deck, you can see them kind of like moving and they're not 00:11:07.520 --> 00:11:11.760 supposed to be. Like they're supposed to be stationary. Oh, okay. So hold on a second. 00:11:13.040 --> 00:11:18.720 See? Yours are just stationary. So there's motion artifacting or something. I saw that in a digital 00:11:18.720 --> 00:11:23.200 foundry video and I've been curious to see that. So we've got some advantages and disadvantages 00:11:23.200 --> 00:11:29.840 both ways. Yes. I'm just looking at the confetti in there. Inside? Yeah. I think mine is just going 00:11:29.840 --> 00:11:36.800 to crap. FSR has no idea what to do with it. It's pretty bonkers. There's a lot of motion artifacts 00:11:37.520 --> 00:11:43.200 and it's clear that the PS5 Pro's upscaling is doing a much better job here. Like it's really hard, 00:11:43.200 --> 00:11:47.920 but if you can catch one with your eye and try to follow it around, you can follow a piece of 00:11:47.920 --> 00:11:54.720 confetti around yours. Mine? Good luck. That's just a garbled mess. Yeah, that's pretty bad. Overall, 00:11:54.720 --> 00:12:01.040 the motion is still there. It's moving clockwise or whatever, but those are individual objects and 00:12:01.040 --> 00:12:07.120 that's just, it's shredded almost. My foliage doesn't look way worse than yours here though. 00:12:07.120 --> 00:12:13.040 Oh, my trees do though. That was background. Yeah, the background trees look so flat. Should we 00:12:13.040 --> 00:12:18.480 change the setting? I think this is an L. I think the PS5 Pro might take the win on this one. I had 00:12:18.480 --> 00:12:22.160 everything set to high, but I think we're going to want to mess with the settings again. I think 00:12:22.160 --> 00:12:27.600 your menu looks better though. Like substantially. Oh, would you like to enable the pro rendering 00:12:27.600 --> 00:12:35.120 mode? Here we go. Yes. We reset these displays right before we started, and when we were using 00:12:35.120 --> 00:12:40.720 them for PS5 versus PS5 Pro on ShortCircuit, they looked the same. I thought Windows 11 00:12:40.720 --> 00:12:48.800 each share was supposed to be good. You just said you liked mine better. That's true. Hey, 00:12:48.800 --> 00:12:52.960 did I load first? I think you might have loaded faster than the PS5 Pro. Got him. Oh, no, just 00:12:53.040 --> 00:12:59.120 dang it. Tune the two. Wow, that's remarkably close. 00:13:01.520 --> 00:13:07.360 I feel like your hair is better, but maybe I'm just at an angle. That's true. I think your textures 00:13:07.360 --> 00:13:15.200 are worse. If they are, it's not by much, dude. I think, like the photos are a little bit clearer 00:13:15.200 --> 00:13:19.680 here. I don't know if that's a PSSR thing, because it looks like it's doing some weird 00:13:20.480 --> 00:13:26.720 work on their shirts. Oh, yeah. Dude, I would rather have the softer photo than the, like, 00:13:26.720 --> 00:13:32.640 shimmery line on it. It's distracting. Are you getting a good solid 60 FPS? Oh, yeah. This is 00:13:32.640 --> 00:13:38.720 very 60 FPS-y. Me too. Looks like your 1% lows are a little bit lower, but I wouldn't be able to tell. 00:13:39.440 --> 00:13:43.440 Not with any kind of variable refresh rate. The fact that we can be this close to the screen 00:13:44.000 --> 00:13:50.560 and not tell the difference, I think, tells the story. Yeah, they both look great. They both 00:13:50.560 --> 00:13:56.000 look fantastic. I think we could call this close enough. Yeah, I think we could probably tweak 00:13:56.000 --> 00:14:00.320 settings and get it a little bit better, but you're already at your performance threshold, so. 00:14:00.320 --> 00:14:05.520 Yeah, I think this is as good as it's going to get. Wow, this is not good. Oh, wow. Yeah, you're 00:14:05.520 --> 00:14:11.600 40-ish. I'm not even, no, I don't even think I believe what Frameview is saying. Dude, touch this. 00:14:12.560 --> 00:14:20.080 Oh, yeah, that's like sub 30. No, wait, that's way. This is bad. The pacing here is terrible. 00:14:20.080 --> 00:14:25.520 Turn off your ray tracing. You know, I'm going to turn V-Sync off and see if that helps. Yeah, 00:14:25.520 --> 00:14:30.400 that helps a lot. Okay. And now it feels like what it says it is. The thing about V-Sync is if you 00:14:30.400 --> 00:14:36.640 dip below the target frame rate, in many cases, it will actually have to dip even lower in order 00:14:36.640 --> 00:14:42.480 to ensure smooth delivery of frames. And if you are oscillating between them, it can feel extremely 00:14:42.480 --> 00:14:46.800 stuttery, worse than if you just didn't have it at all. And in this case, this was clearly the 00:14:46.800 --> 00:14:52.880 right play. I'm getting a little bit of tearing, but this is way smoother. It doesn't look as smooth 00:14:52.880 --> 00:15:02.480 as yours, though. Once again, your HDR pops. So much more than mine. And for those of you 00:15:02.480 --> 00:15:08.640 looking at frame view up here and doubting that HDR is working, my menu pops. Like HDR 00:15:08.640 --> 00:15:14.080 is definitely on on both of these displays. It says HDR mode right here. ASUS Gaming HDR. 00:15:15.040 --> 00:15:20.640 Trust me, we reset them right before we started. We did learn when we did the last PS5 killer 00:15:20.640 --> 00:15:25.840 that Intel's implementation of HDR just plain didn't work because there's a lot of proprietary 00:15:25.840 --> 00:15:30.000 nonsense that both AMD and NVIDIA have baked into their drivers to get the bloody thing working. 00:15:30.640 --> 00:15:35.840 So we could be seeing some of that here. It could also be that Windows HDR, 00:15:36.640 --> 00:15:41.840 just plain isn't that great. I'm curious, kind of come stand on that semicircle and look at the 00:15:41.840 --> 00:15:48.240 background because I'm getting a lot of that motion upscaling crap in the in the background again. 00:15:49.440 --> 00:15:54.480 Yours looks a lot more stable. No, mine's clean. But I think you need to turn down some settings 00:15:54.480 --> 00:16:05.120 to get to 60. Yeah. Okay. I don't like PSSR. I think it looks bad. Like look at this tree. 00:16:05.920 --> 00:16:10.400 Am I crazy? Is that like that's... No, you're not crazy. That's a lot worse than mine. Have a look. 00:16:11.040 --> 00:16:16.880 I expected this to be better than FSR. And I think, you know... Well, it is better than FSR. 00:16:17.440 --> 00:16:23.520 But it's not better than just if you aren't using as much FSR. That's fair. I have a more powerful 00:16:23.520 --> 00:16:30.640 GPU than you. Yes. However, it's pretty clear that I'm not getting an even 60 FPS. And honestly, 00:16:31.360 --> 00:16:37.360 all things considered, I'd probably take that gaming experience. Really, hey? I mean here. 00:16:37.360 --> 00:16:45.600 Try it. Swapsies. Oh, yeah. All right. And I'm not looking at this going, wow, what a huge 00:16:45.600 --> 00:16:50.160 difference in visual fidelity when I'm actually playing the game. If I'm not sitting in pixel peeping. 00:16:51.120 --> 00:16:54.720 Now, these are both more than adequate. It would be fine with either of these. 00:16:54.720 --> 00:17:00.000 I think I would be prepared without changing one setting at a time and rebooting the whole game. 00:17:00.000 --> 00:17:03.200 I think I'd be prepared to call this one pretty much a tie. Yeah. 00:17:04.720 --> 00:17:10.720 It's not quite there. I don't think we're quite there. But it's pretty close. It's pretty close. 00:17:10.720 --> 00:17:16.560 Let's close this out by answering some questions. Is the PS5 Pro as bad a value as people are making 00:17:16.640 --> 00:17:22.480 it out to be? Well, I think that depends who you are. If you have a 1080p display, absolutely 00:17:22.480 --> 00:17:29.040 do not buy this machine. If you have a 4K display, though, and a base PS5, you could get anywhere 00:17:29.040 --> 00:17:35.360 from 250 to even more for your current machine, meaning the upgrade is going to cost you 350 to 00:17:35.360 --> 00:17:43.920 $450. That is a pretty tough sell. The PS5 Pro definitely looks better. But from TV distance, 00:17:44.000 --> 00:17:48.960 I feel like only the discerningest of gamers are going to easily pick the Pro out of a lineup. 00:17:49.600 --> 00:17:53.040 With that said, if you're coming into the PlayStation 5 ecosystem fresh, 00:17:53.680 --> 00:17:58.400 it's undoubtedly the better machine. It's the definitive PlayStation 5 experience. 00:17:58.400 --> 00:18:05.440 And for $250 more, it's no worse of a deal as we just showed than spending another $250 00:18:05.440 --> 00:18:10.400 on a gaming PC for better fidelity. Because I don't really think that our extra couple hundred 00:18:10.400 --> 00:18:15.520 bucks blew away what Sony was able to do with the extra budget. I wouldn't judge you then for going 00:18:15.520 --> 00:18:20.240 for the PS5 Pro, but just be aware that you'll have to factor in an external disk drive if you 00:18:20.240 --> 00:18:25.600 want to get the best deals on games. As we showed recently, it's definitely worth the investment 00:18:25.600 --> 00:18:30.080 if you buy more than a small handful of games each generation. The other big question is, 00:18:30.080 --> 00:18:36.720 PS5 Pro versus our PS5 Pro Killer PC. Well, if you're the buy everything news sort, 00:18:36.720 --> 00:18:40.960 this machine is going to run you around $900 before tax. We're going to have links 00:18:40.960 --> 00:18:45.280 to all the parts in the video description. Now over time, you might make up that difference 00:18:45.280 --> 00:18:50.720 in cheaper games and extra utility, but not everybody has a couple hundred extra dollars 00:18:50.720 --> 00:18:56.560 upfront, which means that the choice is not exactly clear. As for our second hand machine, 00:18:56.560 --> 00:19:01.680 well, I think there's a ton of value here. I love this machine. I love this configuration. And I 00:19:01.680 --> 00:19:06.480 would strongly recommend scrapyard warring yourself. I kick ass gaming rig like this. 00:19:06.480 --> 00:19:11.840 But before Mark Serney calls me out in another interview, I fully acknowledged that, yeah, 00:19:11.840 --> 00:19:17.840 we killed the PS5 Pro, but we also threw sand in its eyes before the fight even started. So, 00:19:19.200 --> 00:19:25.440 pocket sponsor. Yeah. If you guys liked watching us kill the Pro and haven't seen us murder the 00:19:25.440 --> 00:19:30.800 original PS5, why don't you check out that video? It's a surprisingly different machine.