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Those young
Little scary Powerful powerful yarn glad you didn't sneeze sitting this close to you. I might have been blown away
Yeah, some of my sneezes are a little ridiculous. I know I wish they weren't I
Don't know. I think you like it. Do be I think you like having a powerful sneeze
No, I think you do Not even neeming right now. I think you enjoy having a powerful sneeze. I think you like the powerful man
I think if I had a really little one, it would be weird. I will admit. Yeah, if it was like, yeah, it would be odd
Although it would be pretty funny. I think I'd be okay with it because it'd be pretty funny
No, it's the Jonathan's chat. He's like, I hate my loud sneeze. I'm like, yeah, yeah, but you're Jonathan Luke
Luke likes to be Luke likes that's a great moment for this to kick. I don't know if you guys heard that view
My Floatplane stream kicked in it. If I had a little one, it would be weird
A little one of what Luke? Ah, you know specifically what it just wouldn't be proportional
Man, I need to I need to figure out this
Situation a little bit. I mean, it's probably okay. You've had worse hair on my show
This is true, but I usually have headphones to kind of help with it a little bit. Oh
No, I
Just want a mirror. Oh Wow, it's just a little special today
I just need a minute at a magazine. Oh my
Well I'm sorry, I'm not so dirty-minded.
Well, no, no, it's a movie reference. What movie?
There's something about Mary. I never watched it.
He lost me there. Jim Carrey?
Something about Mary? What was it, Jeff Daniels?
One of them. You said one of those 90s comedy stars.
I know nothing, sorry. Ben Stiller?
Ben Stiller? Okay, yep, that makes sense.
Oh, you're live. Oh, sorry. Oh, yeah, we're very live.
Yeah, do you guys like Sammy in the background? They love it.
They force me to give up my room. What the hell are you doing?
They're like, give us your freaking room. That's not how it happens.
No, that's my truth. That's him.
He probably won't notice that. My truth is just another way of admitting
that other people are not going to corroborate your story.
Okay, yeah. My truth.
It's...
Okay. Geographically close wanshow, what a concept.
Huh? They're probably live in, like,
around this area. That makes sense.
I like these hoodies too, Leslie. I don't like your name, though.
Leslie? Yeah, just commit it.
Just be Leslie. Sometimes, Sles is more.
And sometimes, more is too much. That's your news screen name.
Sles is more.
It's actually not that.
All right. Should we...
Yeah, I think we can kind of just run it. I have no idea what's in the dock.
Steph says, the Floatplane hoodies is my favorite hoodie right now.
Only take it off to wash. Well, you're doing it wrong.
You never take it off. It's like jeans.
It's not designed... This guy.
Problem solved. Actual fucking genius.
I don't have a swear button, so I'm gonna... Hmm.
Hmm. I didn't even know there was a Floatplane logo in the cords.
That's sick. Yeah, it is cool. I forgot about that.
I'm sure someone showed me at some point, but... Yeah.
I'd love to bring the pajama pants back. Rear Vs,
or Rear V6, but no time soon.
They won't be coming back anytime soon. Sorry. Is it a sales throughput thing?
Yeah, it was just really slow. It's funny.
We have this sort of pattern for a lot of the merch where it sells pretty good out of the gate.
It gets really great reviews. And then we just have kind of no idea
how to keep the momentum going on it. It's something that we're still kind of working on,
how to market our apparel better. And then we light it up on sale
and a bunch of people buy it and they go, oh my god, this is the best thing ever.
I love it. It's my favorite X in my wardrobe.
And we're like, no, because he didn't buy it when it was profitable.
So now we're not going to stock more of them.
So if you see stuff on sale, I don't know, man. I don't want to tell you.
Buy two of my cats just in case you really like it.
Not actual financial advice.
DemeterRTX said, do you all sleep on one bed? And yes,
every person on the trip here sleeps on one megabed.
That is, you just saw the
how MG spends money thing. Travel was not that high.
So we just all, like when we go to CES, it's just
it's just a huge bet.
Yeah, it also saves on
heating. So what is pointing out that it would be really warm
to turn the heat up. It's nice. It's good.
Okay, should we do this? I feel like I feel like we should do this.
Um, oh, yeah, I got to pop out my Floatplane chat.
I'm ready when you are. Things look at my side.
Things look good to your side. Okay.
What time is it there? It is 1130.
Um, how's audio levels Floatplane jet?
Oh, yeah. That's a good question. Oh, I haven't like done the
show yet. Welcome to the Wancho. Oh man. These are going to be fine.
Yeah, these walls are kind of paper thin. I feel bad if anyone's
in the rooms next to us. Are they? And also, well, okay, the fact
that you don't know that is, oh good. Yeah, you do know. Well, that's interesting.
No, I didn't know. Okay, good. So Luke and I
didn't realize until we came back from the tonight show yesterday
that our rooms border each other. So the fact
that neither of us realized until
we saw each other going into our rooms is a solid indicator that at least that wall is not that
bad and nobody heard anything. Yeah.
It's got to be pretty okay. That's why I was surprised
he said they were thin. I was like, there's no way.
Anyways, they've got to be
pretty all right. Yeah, we both let me put it this way. We both have
plus ones on this show.
Yeah.
Okay, well, that's yeah, that's that's good to know. But I
definitely could hear you guys very clearly in here before I came into this room.
Okay, so I guess maybe we're just good to go and we'll just do a
WAN Show as loud as we need to do a WAN Show and that'll be good. Okay, it's midday.
Yeah, whatever. Okay.
Yeah, I couldn't tell if we were both having the same thought
as we came back and saw each other going to the rooms next to each other.
Okay, so we were at the I kind of detected I kind of picked up on that energy
like that. Oh, I didn't realize that my colleague was right next door.
Because I sure didn't.
All right.
Who are they?
All right. Okay. Yeah, let's Yeah, I guess let's let's do this
thing. Oh, quality is switching like 10
times a minute. Yeah, just set it manually. It's like it's
very finicky. Sometimes it's really good for people and sometimes it's not.
It's all right. Yeah, set it manually. You heard it here
first. Oh, did I mess up my hair? I have no preview anymore. Do you have the... Oh, it's good
enough. Love it. Yeah, you may want to stop that video playback though. I know
for monitoring it's good, but maybe Dan will just have to tell us. Oh, for like band with
three? Yeah, just you know. Good call. You know.
We're on that hotel white fight. It do be
what it is. Yeah.
Yeah, that's good hair for me. It's not that bad. Why is it
messy? Oh, they're all attacking my hair. Look
I am going on 40.
I have hair. I think that this is the moment where I just
be grateful. We're too old for the whole
looks maxing thing. Yeah. We missed that wave.
Do you know about all this? Sorry, am I not supposed to have my tongue up against the root of my mouth right now?
Oh. No, it's like I think the same like
consumerism hammer that got women
is coming for men. Make up in tons of products and lots of
things. Elijah definitely not 40 year old version
which fortunately the walls are thick enough.
Luke doesn't need to confirm. I have previously.
I don't need to reconfirm.
Someone said Luke's used to it or whatever and I'm like, I mean, it's been
a long time. Yeah. It's not the kind of thing that you like
you're in for. No, no, that you need to go back
to. But someone who lived in dorms and then lived with roommates and then lived
there. By the time I lived with you guys, I was pretty desensitized. I really didn't
care. I just wish you'd said something.
I could have been quiet. It had literally been like five years
of living situations where that was normal.
So it just like just didn't really yeah.
Didn't matter. Some looks maxing community got nuked
for selling exit kits which is exactly what you think it is.
My God. What's an exit kit? A suicide? I'm assuming
they're talking about that. Like because you like
it looks backs hard enough or something. I don't know. What?
Yeah.
Is that is that what it is? I have no idea.
I don't even know if that's true.
Okay.
No one's, no one's confirming. Are we just assuming what it is?
I'm looking it up. I mean
oh yes apparently that's true.
They rank people and there's a rank that's just rope.
What? That is crazy.
That is so freaking crazy.
I mean, is it, do we not have, I feel like
my generation had like Stephen Hawking you know to be like
yeah you can be very, you know
disabled and you can be not you know super hot
but you can be extremely influential and important and stuff.
Like do we have a current role model like that for men?
Probably. Trying to think.
It's you. Yeah, it's kind of rough
because if you call them out
are you just calling them unattractive? Danny DeVito based.
Yeah, Danny DeVito. But he's older.
Yeah, I mean so was Stephen Hawking. At one point he was also not
at one point. That's true. That's true.
Whoa, shut up Stephen Hawking's on the Epstein list?
Yes. Shut up.
Yeah, but that doesn't necessarily like Oh, he was low key
nerd cool when he was young. Oh, okay. Yeah, that's what I was trying to
show you. Kind of a Chad.
Yeah, he was alright. Alright, well
Yeah, but Hank Green isn't like Yeah, Hank Green is like, yeah, he's good looking.
He's totally fine. I think. Not that we'd necessarily be the best judges, but
Yeah, Christopher Reeves also dead though, and he'll
Christopher Reeves, wasn't he? He was superman. No, he was literally
Superman, but they're saying he was disabled. Okay, but he was also a Superman.
Yeah, so no, I mean my point is just like, like, is this is this part
of the problem though that we don't have like Michael J. Fox guys, you're picking
like super like good looking people like particularly known
for being attractive.
Oh, man. I was going to say, yeah,
so he was on the Epstein list, but there's speculation that a lot of people
of like notoriety were brought
as interest points
for the influential people. Oh, no, 100%. Yeah, so he would have been there as like
candy himself. No, I read a really interesting
I read a really interesting article on sort of Epstein's playbook
for like how he managed to be to rub shoulders with
with so many influential people and apparently it was like
a lot of it was flying around on his private jet and offering people rides
for free. Just like
I guess that's a thing and so
there's a wait, there's a picture of him with girls on the island. Oh really?
I mean, oh man
I feel okay Wow, this is going to get this
is going to become a thing. I hope not it doesn't need to
it is surprisingly easy
to have a photo taken of you that looks really bad
like I I think you know what my party
habits are at trade shows generally speaking
I avoid them my very
first year at CES I went to an OCC event
where one of their marketing coordinators
we were posing for a picture and she runs into the frame
and sits on my lap and now there's a picture
of me with a young woman on my lap I
froze. I had no idea how to react to this
she was there literally for three seconds while the photo was taken
and she was just one of those like
I don't even think she meant anything by it because she was just the kind of person
who hugs absolutely everyone and just is like always
so happy to see him being very physical contact loose
and you know it's not like she ever came on to me
or anything like that it was just but anyway
um I think like did they
post it or something whatever Yvonne saw the picture and was like
what is this and so I'm like
first time I'm going to Vegas I didn't mention it
because I had like completely forgotten about it
she's like what what is this
and I was like I swear to god
and this is a story that literally every woman in the history of women
has heard and a very low percentage
of the time this story is true but I swear to god this is what happened
yeah anyway I mean that's just like kind of the company that OCZ was
like how do I put this
I'm not saying that you know the people that worked in marketing
there were in any way not like smart or talented I'm just saying that there were
clearly other hiring priorities that were also
considered like they were they were really good
at what they did they were just also you know young
and women um and that was just like
part of the culture there um the photo that I'm seeing
I mean like they he's on like a beach lounger
that he obviously wouldn't be able to move away from and people came
beside his beach lounger and took a photo with him
yeah I mean they don't really look like they're in um inappropriate
beach attire they're not naked yeah I would
have I would have no actual evidence from this photo to suggest that that's an orgy
as of this time with my limited information I'm choosing to believe that Stephen Hawking
is still cool I mean
I can be proven otherwise we don't know but hope not
yeah all right should we do this thing yeah
all right Dan do you want to punch it um do you want me to or are you going to
oh right I think maybe you should
and then just tell us
when we're live because he tells us it'll be in this that's right
dream oh
sure yeah let's roll with it
and whatever dance on the wind show yeah sure thing then
all right you guys ready um
yes
does the glow circuit glow yes resuming one selected now
ready um yeah
selected resumed
and it locked me out what
oh no oh no
hang on
there you go what's up everyone
and welcome to the show I
have so so much to talk about this week
as you guys might have noticed I was on the tonight show with Jimmy Fallon last
night I brought along what are you talking about it just wouldn't
well it just wouldn't it just wouldn't
it was the least wouldn't wouldn't it was flaccid
it was the demo didn't work you guys I had a lot
of fun on the show as as with last time the tonight show team was
absolutely incredible so accommodating it was very cool to see I got to bring
a much larger posse this time so I had Luke with me
I brought Yvonne and Sammy was there
just chilling in his room because the ladies are sleeping anyway the point is
we'll talk through what happened with the demo that
failed and before we go any further I want to make it
clear this was not Lenovo's fault
I don't think it was really anyone's fault it was just
a bad set of circumstances we're also going to be talking
about oh the
alleged end of life of the 5070ti
and 5060ti 16 gig
but then maybe they are not it's
sounds it seems a little complicated speaking of
NVIDIA graphics cards Jensen says that NVIDIA could potentially
resurrect old GPUs to address shortages and high
pricing what is that oh yeah I meant to pick that one that one's really good
there we go that's good do we want really bad news
after that? sure which one?
stop why you have to be like this
I'm not talking to him I'm talking to the world police unmasks millions of
surveillance targets because of flock redaction error
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Razer chair there we go our laptop partner also Razer
and our rap partner dbrand why don't we jump right
into the headline topic which is of course the demo that
failed I was
mortified it's an unscripted show
which means that someone's kind of
working off the cuff a little bit but obviously when you're doing
a tech demo you need to kind of practice what you want to say
a little bit you need to make sure that you know what
all the right hot keys you're supposed to hit are Luke heard me in the
in the back room basically just going
lollipop star peach pink frost
seros rover just making sure that I got all
the names right because these aren't products that I'm intimately
familiar with and have been using for six months and things that
I just learned about the existence of at CES a week ago
and under live pressure you have to come up with the names of
four individual things in a really really tight timeline and talk about them like I knew my segment
was going to be cut down to five minutes which is
not a lot I could have done five minutes on just the lollipop
easily so I'm like I'm back there I'm like
I'm memorizing I'm figuring out what to do I had kind of a
cute idea for how I wanted to work the screwdriver in by having
Jimmy press the hot key to expand the screen the second
time because it's supposed to go from 16 inches to 21 and a half inches
to 24 inches and I guess I should back up a little
bit we had the Lenovo expanding screen laptop on the tonight show
that's not its name last night yeah it's called the Legion pro
rollable concept there you go
got to memorize the things rehearsals and that's not it's not the kind of thing that rolls off
the top of it anyway
in the middle of taping it just stopped working
and where was it right so I had this idea
that the hot key to expand it a second time I was going to have him press it with the screwdriver
and then I was going to have him be kind of confused like why did you have me do this I could have pressed this with my finger
so yeah so so he had already expanded it
once it expands two times but he hadn't revealed to them that it expands two times
yet yeah so he was like I can do something and he's going to mess around with the screwdriver and then hand it to Jimmy
yeah it was kind of like what I had in my brain but then it never expanded
in the first place so that's why me just like pulling
out the screwdriver is just sort of random because I was
full deer in headlights guys I was mortified
I think even the YouTube version doesn't have the whole laptop it right no yeah so it
goes on for a while it's not random that he pulls the screwdriver out it's decided that
they're not going to do this and then he has to find some way to like
and like I had I saw some people in the comments that are like oh you should have rebooted it
you should have done this you should have done that we were we were there for a while we rebooted it
we I looked to see if Lenovo had any
special software on it that was needed to be loaded so that the
expanding screen would work and there was nothing I
I was sitting there in full panic mode because the tonight show
staff had showed me how to use it ahead of time so that I would
know and I practiced it a little bit I kind of thought through how I wanted to do it and I played
around with the hot keys and I was like okay I'm good I gave it back to them to charge and make
sure that it was charging and I realized
oh my god shortly before I came out here they went
oh yeah by the way Lenovo had this little note for you and I opened it up and I went
oh yeah it's just the instructions for how to use it and I didn't read it
because they had already showed me how to use it and as I was sitting there on stage going
oh my god it's not working did I need to read that was there something in there
that was like a troubleshooting step so my brain is going like
a thousand miles a minute while Marcelo and Jimmy are like
cracking performance jokes which honestly
saved it it was a very funny segment yes they saved it
but in that moment I was like oh my god
I just want this to work in the in the back room while we're watching
the first camera angle didn't properly really show the keyboard
I thought you had defaulted to like Windows key arrows and was like
panic in the back room like function key it's function key trying to think like do I need to
run out there and like say something but then it changed camera angles and I saw you on function key
and then the second thought was and I haven't told you about this until now
and it was not the problem but when I was working on the laptop
I noticed it was running like quite cranked all the time
so I went through and tried to trim some like startup services and stuff
that wasn't it that was not it so I think I know what it was
and it wasn't really anyone's fault it was just
a thing that happened because when I went backstage
and waited another I think probably minute it started working again
so it worked perfectly every time up until I was on stage
and then it worked perfectly every time afterward on and running
in the backpack I was getting to that sorry so I even
practiced with it running in the backpack and pulled it out
and did it but I never had it in for so long
so the reason that it was running while it was in the backpack was so that
I could just open it and it would be ready to go that show business
baby you gotta you gotta but I think that's what actually
killed us because what I suspect is that there was some kind
of thermal fail safe in the motors
that open up the rollable led display something
and as soon as it cooled down a little bit it started
working again and I even thought about it so
I don't know if you notice this but like when I open my backpack to like start taking things out
I like really opened it and I like made sure that it was open
a bit because I knew that the laptop was running in there and I knew that it ran kind of hot
it's a prototype machine I did notice that you did that but I thought you're just trying to see all the products
you could grab them easily I didn't really have anything in there I just had the headphones in that pouch
and the laptop that makes sense that was it so once I had the headphones out the laptop
was the only thing in there I just wanted to give it a little bit of room to breathe
but it clearly wasn't enough and I
I feel bad for literally everyone involved I feel bad for Lenovo
because obviously it's a really cool product and it would have been sick and it
I feel bad for the tonight show because it would have been great for their segment it would have been another
mega viral clip on top of the one that's going absolutely
bonkers on Instagram and Tiktok right now for the Lollipop star
vibrating Lollipop and I feel bad for me because
I was so I honestly don't know
how I pulled it together for the Roborock segment and you did quite well thank you
I was mortified I just and
you can see it one of the top upvoted comments on the
YouTube upload his line is just booked in
yeah that was very funny that was
okay so backstage we didn't see that part
so what I will say when we were watching backstage
I was very proud of how you got it together for the Roborock part and the screwdriver part
and then it just cut we didn't see him exit the stage and then
we were watching the segment like in the hotel room late at night
you see you and like right in front of the table too
and just ignored both of them they like
yeah no good
why I burst
out laughing last night watching I was like oh my god
because you see like the previous guest like take a while
shake hands and then sit in the chair and talk as it like kind of fades out
I know that's what you're supposed to do you just booked it
I was so hyper focused on going and
troubleshooting the laptop and I was just so like
it dragged on for so much longer during the taping so it felt
like that was the whole thing and like honestly I was talking
to Yvonne last night I was like if they invite me back I don't know if I want to come
I'm glad that the clips are doing really well on Tiktok and Instagram
like it's not this really is not about the money for me this is just a
really cool fun collab it's such an honor to be invited
I don't know how long traditional TV is going to exist for so getting to participate
in it while it's while there is still the glitz and the glamour and they still have
their their funding and everything like it's it's it's pretty
it's pretty cool to to a boomer ass millennial like me
like the purchase while going on the tonight show and
and being there like seeing the way that they work it's just
yes it's different and and and I understand
that there's a lot of people that don't necessarily value that
and that you know cable TV is really struggling and and and all of that
stuff like I I get that but also being there like
like you said that seeing the production was a really cool oh it was very we want to talk
about that a little bit without saying too much what I'll say is the stuff that I know
I can for sure say be considering it's it's all where the the public audience
sits but literally just looking up at the like cloud grid
so the framing that they have in the ceiling that supports all the lights
and stuff oh my god yeah like
what the heck it's it's this field
of very tightly nested lights and other various
production equipment that is completely covers the entire
ceiling because they have to be able to adapt to everything they're gonna be ready for anything
seeing how they dealt with the stage with all the fog and the fake shark thing
and the and the contest and being able to have that out and then reset
that and then keep doing the show right away like the time gaps between doing that
is like way shorter than you would expect and the
they're just so thoughtful like when I first
heard them explain the shark game so if you haven't seen the segment with Jason
Mamoa and Jimmy Fallon basically they're standing on what kind of look
like little peers or little docks and there's a cute little
shark fin on roller skates that's kind of rolling around in the fog
in front of them and they have to ask each other they have to make a statement and the
other has to guess true or false and when I first heard the rules
explained I thought the way it worked was that I make my statement and
if you guess wrong yours expands
right but then Yvonne was like no no no matter what
on every question someone's legs expand
oh did I say that yet right so there's part of the peers on rollers
so it can open up sort of forcing you to
do the splits eventually so you're supposed to try to fool the other persons
if you don't fool them your thing kind of goes out which requires your legs to
kind of do the splits a bit and if you don't fool them theirs goes
yeah so I didn't realize that and as soon as she said that no matter what
on every question someone's legs expand
I was like that's so thoughtful there's a fixed timer
that's right it can only go from this amount of time to this amount of time
which is great for TV for the kinds of tight scheduling that they have
to do and it's one of those things that if you've never
tried to run a production you'll not fully appreciate but if you ever
have tried to run a production and if you've ever had like a game show
or a bit that wasn't carefully thought through
in that way you'll know that
oh my god things can just start to drag on because we're in a stalemate
and nobody's winning this thing and there's also just like the time
of production I was talking to Emma about this when we were sitting waiting for it to go live
on actual TV the fact that we did this all today
and then there's an edited version out going on TV
and there's Instagram clips and there's different versions of edited versions
going on YouTube and everything else and it all went up on time
and it was all titled properly and it was all tagged properly it was all handled properly, it was all published, it was all edited
and those edits had to come in
like two hours or something because they had to all be published as well
I don't know why I assumed that like
someone like Jimmy is mostly just kind of the star
but I hope I'm not disclosing too much right now
I think it's a very cool thing so hopefully no one gets mad at me for this
but we got a note from them on the edit of my segment
and they were like oh yeah Jimmy really likes this and he really likes this
apparently he's like sitting there clearly was considering the edits
like involved in the YouTube edit
so like it's not, he's not just caring about the TV okay
they care about all of it check that out internet audience
we are like totally not an afterthought even for one of like him or not
don't care one of the biggest stars in the business
which objectively he is you can like that, you can not like it
it doesn't matter, he's one of the biggest stars in the business and for him to still be
personally level, I just think he's really cool
I respect the heck out of that because he could easily just be like
nope, the camera is off, I'm going home yeah
and what are they going to say like he's got that star power that
what do you do, you recast Jimmy Fallon so I just
yeah, I just think it's really cool yeah awesomenator in flip plane chat says yeah I was
in the audience back when it was late show and even from an audience perspective
it's amazing how well oiled the machine is it's crazy
and like this all the timelines are extremely short and all this kind of stuff
nobody really seems to be panicking no, there was fast
people move with intent and they will speak with intensity
sometimes but everything is super respectful
everything is very professional
I felt so taken care of the whole time yeah just 100%
no pressure but 100% 100%
I mean it makes complete sense given the timelines
and the nature of show biz but there was a lot of people
and when that's the case there will always be a lot of hurry up and wait
but there was also very clearly an error of like
respect the person doing a thing
so if you were one of the currently waiting people
you were out of the way I noticed
I don't want to necessarily get into the details because now we're getting into a part where audience wouldn't be there
and naturally see it but you could tell there was a bit of a flow
of like okay I'm doing a thing I'm actually working, working, working, working
I don't need to do anything now I am detaching myself completely
I'm not even physically be in the way but I can quickly get back to it if needed
it was cool watching the machine work was really cool
they're also very accommodating very easy to work with
this is another one of those things where like when the laptop problem happened
I think with like our experience this is like
DEF CON 1 and for them they were like
we have enough footage, we'll edit, we're good we got this and it was like oh
and they were really reassuring about that even though I was like not in my best mood
well we were fully understand because like from our perspective
the laptop's the coolest part and then apparently the internet likes musical lollipops
so it's okay to be clear I also knew the musical lollipop
was gonna play well for their audience and that was why
I wanted to lead with it actually but I wanted
the laptop to be kind of like the but wait there's more
you know and then it wasn't and
we got pretty lucky Roborock demo went as flawlessly as it did
if you want to go back to that clip
watch it as it's going to do the first stair was pretty clean
as it's going to do it's second stair it does a little bit of a rock back
right before it goes on and then when it sets down on the second stair it's not as on the stairs
the first time it's very prototype and Roborock knew that
and they took a gamble coming and being on this stage
because it could have just as easily been them instead of the Lenovo
and I really respect them taking that gamble and respect the heck out of Lenovo
respect the heck out of anyone I mean
it's worth it the TDM, the foldable headphones
both Jimmy and I fold them the wrong way the first time
every other time I practiced it I did it the right way and it's just
it's something about you've got a live audience you've got the lights, you've got
some of the most famous people in the world sitting next to you
gesturing towards me but gesturing in a direction
I almost have a Wikipedia page there's a temporal gap here
and so you just you feel the pressure right
and it's so I'm so grateful to
partners like that for the work that they did
getting things together and getting everything to us
and not everyone gets the shot
some things or maybes even in the hours leading up to taping
we had this Rubik's Cube with screens on it that was really cool
but just we had too many items
and it just didn't make the cut four products, five total minutes
including intros and stuff like it's
and so everyone takes a gamble
everyone works really hard to make it happen and I'm just, yeah, I'm super grateful
to everyone who made it a success on our team as well
Sean from Bizneyland put a ton of work into coordinating everything
James was the guy in the chair at CES this year helping coordinate all this stuff
getting on calls with the Tonight Show team yeah, it's just a whole
it's a whole team effort and I genuinely believe
because they didn't have to invite us back right
I genuinely believe that it is reflective
of the professionalism of our team that we were invited back
to do this so I'm super, super proud
I hope it happens again I really like the idea of it being
kind of an annual thing and I know last time
there was the invite to come again but there wasn't really a date
and then it sort of happened to happen now if that happens again, great
I like the idea of it being an annual thing yeah
I mean we got a bigger entourage this year
it seemed like they liked us, which is pretty cool
someone asked in chat if I got paid this time I actually don't know
so I know the first time they offered and we just couldn't get
some forms filled out for me to
make income in the States because when I cover a show
like when I go down in G C E S it's kind of a gray area
because a lot of our editing will actually be done
back in Canada and you're totally allowed to just
be a correspondent or interview people
it really is for social media in particular
it's kind of a gray area and has been for a very long time
but when I come down into the States and I'm working
paid by a US entity it's way more complicated
and I think the first time we just were like yeah we don't have time to deal with this paperwork
I have no idea if we did it this time
I'm sure they would have offered but what I said to someone who commented on it last time
is like look don't get the wrong impression about me commenting last time
that I wasn't paid I don't care
I haven't heard literally a single person ever mention it this time
they know it was they mentioned this time that I wasn't last time
and asked if I was this time and I actually don't know
and I actually don't care because it's just really, really fun
and people should not be compensated for in exposure
and for fun people should be paid for their work but I'm good
it's okay I'm alright
so that's the I am in a position to make that decision for myself
even if I wouldn't make that decision on behalf of someone else
if that makes sense no they definitely didn't pay
for everyone to fly here that was on my dime
heck yeah um
alright what do we want to talk about
call the Floatplane there's gonna be a found vlog soon
okay can they hear him I don't know if they can pick him up
alright cool project
there's gonna be a jimmy found vlog 2026 edition soon on Floatplane
LMG.gg okay I don't know
it's being approved right now okay yeah we're just waiting for their team to look at it
because it includes footage of me like talking to jimmy right uh yes yeah okay
it's an entire trip yeah okay cool and why I'm in this crappy room instead of a big room
oh that's that okay that's a plotline that's kind of fun
jimmy's first room was not great
in some ways it was nicer and in some very key very important ways it was not
anyways next topic yeah sure
we can't see Dan's cards so the card says topic too yeah
CEO jenzin wong says NVIDIA could potentially resurrect
old GPU's to address shortages and
high pricing okay I have not seen any further than the headline for this
so this is going to be me with an uninformed hot take
I love it yeah but but go ahead
sure at a q&a with NVIDIA in las vegas for CES jensen was asked something along
the lines of this is paraphrasing gaming GPU prices
are high right now likely due to supply constraints producing
older generation GPU's I hope he said that or lower vram
models help ease pricing and are there any concrete steps
NVIDIA is considering jensen's reply what I don't know if this
one's paraphrasing or not but jensen's reply was yeah possibly and
we could possibly depending on the so this makes me think it's a real quote
depending on which generation we could also
bring the latest generation ai technology to the previous generation GPU's which they
have done before and that will require a fair amount of engineering
but it's also within the realm of possibility I'll go back and take
a look at this it's a good idea I would love
assuming that means 4.5 on older GPU because there is a so
it would it would probably mean that which the older GPU's could probably
handle because I think 4.5 is running decent on four or wait
does 4.5 run on 40 series I think it does DLSS 4.5 but it's frame gen
that I think is not running on 40 series at the at the
higher levels of of frame generation
so that's I think that's probably where he's looking at it going yeah we'd have to
do a bunch of engineering on this but from my point of view
so there's multiple constraints on on the whole
GPU supply thing right there's the
there's the TSMC manufacturing capacity on the nodes
that these GPU's are being manufactured at there's the
just general supply crunch for anything
related to computer memory so the way that memory manufacturers
are allocating their production to
data center oriented parts rather than consumer
oriented parts and then I don't know if this has changed since the last time I
looked into it but apparently the silicon the silicon
the silicon wafers themselves that both of those are produced
on are in short supply so this isn't going to help with
that because if anything producing last generation
GPU's on an older node
is going to be less efficient in terms of
how much compute you make per wafer you
they produce yeah it also won't necessarily help
on the memory side unless
the memory manufacturers have manufacturing capacity
at older nodes to make older slower memory and they
can get enough silicon wafers so as long as we can get
enough wafers then I actually
love this because and you can hate NVIDIA for a lot of reasons
and I'm gonna be like
okay but one of the things that you can't
really hate them for and I think they actually do maybe not
industry leading but certainly top tier
like S tier job of is supporting their products
for a long time after they go end of sales so if they were
to bring back 40 series GPU's I would
and I hope I don't eat these words I hope NVIDIA has
the integrity for what I'm saying to be true but
I would believe that they would extend the EOL of the support
on those cards because it seems like maybe like driver wise
yeah it seems like their calendar for end of life
support starts where sales ends from
what I've seen of them in the past whereas you'll have companies
that compete directly with NVIDIA like AMD that will just be
like no not that one anymore which I also
understand I understand where AMD is coming from they have
had cards in the past that as far as I can tell
existed for one or two production runs and then just
didn't exist anymore what was that that radio remember radion 7
oh yeah like what was that yeah kind of
as far as I could tell they had some like data center chips that
didn't make the cut and they just like dumped them in a consumer
card sharded them onto the market and then how long did that card get supported
for like not very long not very long like it was pretty
bad and it was the same with remember that water cooled
like fury one you remember radion fury that was a weird
era that was a particularly very very weird era on the AMD
side we're not quite done the topic though I'm going to keep adding a little bit because this might change some of the opinions
oh well no I think it's okay but
so the answer from Jensen was a little vague but it does line up with
the rumors reported on by videocards.com with the
with the Z that the RTX 3060
so not 4000 series 3000 series is coming back
for Q1 2026 however
3060 is a good card it is a good card it's just you were talking about 4000
so I just wanted to add that in there okay however it seems more likely that NVIDIA's board
partners are focusing on producing more RTX 5060 and 5060 TI
models while moving away from the 60 gig models
and then it says as a Chinese board channels post insinuates
they are which seems even more likely
after recent news that ASUS is ending production of its 5070 TI
ah the 5070 TI is like the good one
in the 50 series lineup I really like the 5070 TI we used it
in two build guides recently we used it in the MSRP PC
and we used it in our $2000 gaming PC build guide
I really like that card at $750 obviously it's a crap
ton of money but it's a really fast card
like with a little bit of the LSS not too much little bit of
little bit of super sampling you don't even have to use frame gen it's a legitimate
4k gaming card and it's obviously
got support for all of NVIDIA's latest features if you if you want to turn those things on
it is oh god ah
oh no I have prices already skyrocketed on it
as recently as like a week or two ago
it was available at MSRP
and that does not appear to be the case anymore
at least not on new egg hold on I'm sorting by lowest price
oh my god the lowest 5070 TI
am I in the Canada site or something because it's a thousand
it's over a thousand dollars
oh no
no not cool not cool
hold on hold on hold on hold on okay I'm holding on I'm holding on what am I holding on to
so hub hardware unboxed has a video from a day ago talking about
the 5070 TI potentially being killed off which they
now added an update to the title somebody in full plane chat
quantum jank in full plane chat notified me of this
and then they have a pinned comment which is
very long nice solid
that says sorry everyone but we've been provided with another clarifying statement
from ASUS this one completely walks back their original statement to us
we would like to clarify recent reports regarding the ASUS gforce
RTX TM 5070 TI and RTX TM
okay okay certain media may have received incomplete information
from ASUS PR representative regarding these products they have not
been discontinued or designated end of life ASUS has no plans to stop selling these models
current fluctuations and supply for both memory constraints
blah blah blah basically what it sounds like to me
is that someone at ASUS was like well yeah because it's so
much RAM per board we'd much rather sell 5070s
and 5060 TI 8 gigs and so effectively
we're not going to be making any of these because remember NVIDIA apparently
switched from providing the GPU die
and the accompanying VRAM as a kit to just selling GPU dies
so in doing so NVIDIA effectively seeded control
of exactly what their partners are making so what this sounds
like to me and I don't know I didn't talk to ASUS about it
I haven't even talked to hardware unboxed about it but what it sounds like to me
is that someone at ASUS real talk was like
realistically if I have 16 gigs of VRAM and I have
GPUs I'm going to make
2 GPUs not 1 GPU so deal with it
because we've seen many cases in the past where like
a new GPU launches and there's like a vanilla MSRP1
and it never gets formally discontinued but they just like don't make any
and they only make the OC and the Strix and the Matrix
and the Astral and like whatever right
we've seen this playbook a hundred times so it sounds to me
like it's the playbook but then someone saw these comments
and was like yo you said the quiet part out loud brother
you can't do that you might be dealing with a lot of rumors
Shraff is also saying that selling the die in memory separately was just a rumor
yeah that's why I said apparently I would also like to say
that if you want more of this timeline you should check out
the video from hardware unboxed which is titled the RTX 5070ti
has dot dot dot maybe question mark been killed off brackets update
the reason why I'm saying that is check the pinned comment because they even have
a timeline of things that have happened and where they're currently at
so yeah if you want to stay on top of this
this is interesting hub seems to be probably the way the place to go right now
okay if I want to
if I want to see okay I just want a particular part
I tried the other thing but we don't have a thing for that thing
I'm just going to go 5070ti
here we go oh right I can't screen share
so I won't be showing you guys any of this hardware unboxed
not the other hub my goodness
I can't see what you're doing on your screen you might not find the right information for the 5070ti stock
on that one yeah so
the cheapest 5070ti that I can find
MSI Ventus that is
listed available soon on Amazon.com
what does that mean I don't know but the next one
and that's for $830 so $80 over MSRP
and then the next one that actually shows in stock
is an ASUS tough gaming for $879
$130 over MSRP
and yeah this this Ventus on Amazon
is showing $1200 when I actually click through on it
so I don't think that's a thing so yeah
5070ti apocalypse has officially already
already happened that is
that's a downer oh at 441
asks did we kill the B580 updates no we haven't let's go ahead and do it
it's LMG.gg slash
new egg is that it is that our affiliate oh god
oh god it's happened
it's happened the asrock challenger is up to 291
$41 is it an OC
I don't think it's an overclocked model so we're still tuning this
but as some people have noticed
the Labs website has pricing on it now
for different things yes it does we don't have a ton of graphics cards
for reasons that are kind of boring and we won't necessarily get into but yet
we do have the B580 so you can go to the B580 page
on the Labs website I can't really share my screen right now
can you down the screen share it's hard but yeah
it's hard okay that's a detail we didn't need Dan
maybe we'll show it better off next week oh my goodness
I mean I don't blame him look at this man
under the where to buy section you can see pricing for
B&H, Amazon and new egg we are planning on adding more
if you're a store and you're like why didn't you include us
we very likely contacted you and you didn't reply we'd love to hear from you
and would love to have your pricing on the store thank you very much
there's a show availability in other regions so for us we can see Canada
right now we just have US and Canada Canadian pricing looks not too bad on new egg
and B&H has one for 259 is it actually in stock
if it's not in stock then we need to do better we check stock once a day
okay oh it's in stock add to cart brilliant
and it says on there when it was updated today is the Intel holiday bundle
on B&H because it's another so that's 260
which I still consider to be within striking distance of MSRP
I count that and that has the bundle okay I don't know if we have a B&H affiliate
code but that doesn't matter right now what matters is you get a
I think we do oh well okay
anyway the point is go pick up
whatever what does Intel call their founders click it click the buy now button through the Labs website
yeah LTTlabs.com I don't know if we do or not but just
CADOS says we do I can get it one sec CADOS you don't even work here
why do you do that ah Flippling Dan is here and he said that we do
okay so I don't know what it actually is but if you click the buy now button on the lab side it'll work
sick did I miss anything Dan did I did I say it all properly
that is that is super cool that is gonna
dramatically increase the utility of the Labs website
over time I'm very excited the Labs website
just keeps tickin along keeps tickin
along keeps getting a little bit better a little bit better I'm very excited
there is more coming soon like Dan said I don't want to say specifics yet
because I like to just show them to you when they're here and ready but there is
more coming soon regarding pricing stuff we're planning of doing cool things
but yeah for now it's a pretty quick way to price check
alright well at least you can still get a B580 which I remind you guys is a perfectly
Cromulent Gaming Card for darn near MSRP
I I'm pretty down
that the 5070TI is not a thing anymore because I really
liked that I felt like it was really the sweet spot in NVIDIA's lineup how about on the AMD side
let's actually have a look
that gets a little bit more difficult on the Labs website because
like I said we don't have a ton of GPUs yeah yeah that's fine so we're going back
to look at a new egg can't share a screen so I'm trying to verbally
yeah sorry guys he's currently scrolling on the new egg website
after searching for 9700XT yeah the
with an in stock filter no I can't read this it says HR block
don't worry about it the best deal right now is probably the
Sashrock Challenger for 730 that's a 9070XT
so that's substantially more than the BS
MSRP that AMD fed to everyone but is
I would take this over a 5070TI
for a thousand dollars at the same price I would take the 5070TI
no question especially seeing how good
DLSS 4.5 is do you have you tried it yet no you have 40 series
don't you yes okay if DLSS 4.5 is
as good as I think it is we might owe you an upgrade sooner than I thought it's like
a game changer wait what do you have though
my rig still feels pretty good oh you have a 4080 okay
there isn't really a game that it struggled in yet I was thinking the other day
like is it time and I think years wise it technically is
but there's not that many new GPUs I think we hit you pretty early in the
40 series life cycle year I think so because it feels pretty good
I'm not going to push to get an upgrade when it still
feels like a pretty smoking machine I don't know
I guess if we just want to farm the content it's fine but like it's
yeah there's nothing it struggled in I just crank settings on everything
whatever oh yeah and I think
4.5 as long as you don't care about the frame gen aspect which I suspect you don't
it should run just fine on 40 series I think it's just 30 series
and 20 series that it really struggles on because they just don't have a powerful
enough NPU to make the most out of it at least that's my understanding
of it it's quite possible that you know the
the elite hacksawers out there are going to find a way to just sort of make it work better or something
and that's so cool and I empower to them I can't actually see it
because it's covered in moss but I think it's the Noctua edition
4080 that makes sense yeah that makes a lot of sense
Noah then asks what hoodies are these announced yet yes they
are they're gone are they I'm pretty sure they were gone immediately
like they sold out like very fast oh oh yeah like I think
excels were gone in like 24 hours oh yeah we only have smalls and mediums in
stock sorry are we planning to bring
them back I've been poking this I wasn't able to attend one
meeting that they theoretically had about it so I'm not sure what might have happened there
but I tried to say that maybe we should just have the sweater always be available
because it's like really cool always is tough because when something's
always available we talked about this in the pre-show there's no tension then there's no
there's no see ah
I don't want to like it's like that thing where when you don't do any of the cool things in
your own town and then you travel and do all the stuff that's yes because it's always available when you're
at home yes so there's no like pressure to actually do it but when you're traveling
somewhere then you're like well I'm only going to be over three days I gotta do everything I can so it's not that we're trying to
like capitalize on FOMO but we also don't want to have
tons of boxes in the warehouse not moving yeah
and it's already restricted skew because you like have to be a Floatplane sub
and if you weren't a Floatplane sub but bought the Floatplane hoodie that might be kind of weird
maybe not that weird because it's actually just a really cool hoodie at the very least maybe what we could
do is another drop and yeah maybe what we could do is another drop
yeah I just think it's awesome I think it's the coolest Floatplane merch we've
ever done so and like it's just a really nice hoodie
so yeah maybe if it comes back every once in a while that'd be pretty sweet cool
alright Dan you might just have to like tell us what we're supposed to do
yeah I'm sure you could get through another topic how does that sound you could do another topic yeah why don't
we do another topic how about oh how about just a short update
the daily motion ownership thing is kind of a deeper
rabbit hole than we thought yeah yeah so after our
discussion uh redditor pie plots made a post
kind of um enlightening us on the depth of this whole situation
TLDR we were looking at it going daily motion what what is
this this is like obviously a money furnace right yeah and
the TLDR and maybe you could link it maybe Dan could you link his post in the chat
yep um TLDR it's not about making money
it's about having a platform for um the content
that's put out by other parts of the Bolleray Group's
media empire uh which is
attempting to influence the tone of discourse
in French media particularly around
politics so it's less about anyone actually
watching videos on daily motion or it being profitable and more about
just flooding just just flooding the internet
with a particular type of content so
huge massive yikes if
this is true and I haven't seen anything here to indicate that it's not true
does make insanely more sense oh yeah because
daily motion has always been very confusing to me and I you know
it was kind of a known factor that something had to be going on but it's had
no clue what and this makes so much more sense Lexson
724 in Floatplane chat oh propaganda loss leader
yippee yeah yeah pretty much yeah
like uh had you ever logged into twitter and noticed that you don't follow Elon Musk
but his tweets are always right at the top of your home feed if I'm
in twitter I'm going to the bell as fast as I can or the little
male icon speaking of Tesla uh
apparently they are discontinuing the
full all out purchase of full self-driving
before they ever actually delivered it absolutely brilliant
big Tesla moment Elon Musk
announced that on February 14th Tesla full self-driving will only
be available as a monthly subscription instead of
allowing people to purchase it outright currently
the full self-driving package costs 8000 US dollars and the monthly
subscription is 100 dollars a month that means that
if you subscribe for 6 years and 8 months
it will cost you more than paying the 8000 dollars outright which honestly
um sounds like an awful
long time um seems not as bad
yeah the subscription well okay
it's all relative right it would be terrible for me
compared to paying 8000 dollars for a beta um
paying you know less than
8000 dollars for just 4 years of a beta I guess is
it's not as egregious as I expected but I'm trying to think like if I look at my car
you know my car came out in 2009
this thing to still have full self-driving it's completely fine
you'd still be paying 100 dollars a month that sucks I'd obviously way better buy
that up front um it's a boil the frog move yeah I get that
my thing is most boil the frog things don't take 6 years and 8 months
I am a little surprised no meaning boil the frog in terms of like
changing the pricing over time because it's not going to be 100 dollars a month forever
we're intended to see this change and go hmm well that's not actually
that bad compared to charging you 8000 dollars for a beta
product anyway which is like obviously I'd sort of
um it's like
it's almost like a bad faith comparison it's like yeah it's not that
bad compared to genocide it's like well right yeah but like that was
that was already not good so you put the bar here and then
went yay I cleared it um and it will probably
get worse um Elijah quipped here
this is his topic full self driving doesn't even work as promised
and he's already taking away the ability to purchase it LMAO
yeah that's um that's pretty rough man
I I gotta say I've been
really enjoying my time with the Comet AI when it works great
I've had issues with it lately so I haven't been using it lately the
update that it was on when I first started my my daily driving literally
um the Comet AI uh advanced driver assist thing
in that Toyota Corolla we did the part one video and then the part two
video where I use it for an extended period of time is still pending um I got a software
update on it that made it stop getting to speed
can you roll back um I don't I don't know I haven't actually looked
into that and from my point of view um
um should I have to do that
it is a pretty see that's always a question I ask myself
like with something like an iPhone if there's like some hacky way to roll back
to a previous iOS or something I go no that's not an I that's not the iPhone
experience that's not representative I wouldn't do it even if I could
for something like this I think that argument falls apart a little
bit I think that this is clearly a hacky product for early adopters
founder of that company I feel like would embrace that type of mentality
however it also just does like
seamless OTA updates and just like work seamlessly
so if that's the case and and it even offers like two different
um versions that you can activate the more experimental
branch and the and the stable branch so when both
and and the stable branch to be clear gets up to speed better but it doesn't do
red light detection or stop sign detection which I was really enjoying
and really liked so I want to use the experimental branch
and also I have a second car that I can just drive when it's not working properly so the friction
around using it got a lot higher because I just
don't find it as useful when it's basically just radar
cruise control um sorry this is becoming a very long
rambly way to say I think I could
go compromising the integrity of that video but also
I don't want to I don't think I should have you said you have another
car can you just drive that car without using it I can
but like why I hear you I'm just saying if this was a normal
oh yeah 100% you just not turn it on but in my in my mind
if something is like enough that I don't want to turn it on then I'm going to have a
real hard time recommending somebody spend a thousand dollars on it for sure I was just trying to figure out like
how debilitating is this for normal no it's just annoying yeah yeah it's just it just
sucks because it was working so well and then stopped working so well totally I don't think
anybody likes that when that happens right um
so I think they have new hardware so what we're planning right now
is to expand this video to be
daily driving the first-gen hardware and also trying the second-gen hardware
but maybe that should be two videos I don't know maybe I'm maybe I'm overthinking it you know
I'll get with Jordan when when we get back to the office and we'll kind of chat through what the plan for
it is but that to me sorry where I was going with this
is I would much rather just throw a comma
assuming that they continue to make the kind of progress that they have in my Tesla
and have it do I wouldn't say 90%
but in fact I'm not going to give a percentage because I haven't daily driven
a Tesla with full self-driving and and maybe and and I was thinking
like I was really enjoying the comma maybe that's the next thing that I should try is I should
borrow a Tesla and um just
subscribe to the package for a little bit and and try daily driving that maybe it'll
totally change my mind about it maybe I'll say yeah the marketing is BS
and I you know don't love a lot of the things that the company does but
this is totally worth a hundred dollars a month if you you know have this kind
of a commute um I'm open to having my my mind changed
and the contractor says please know I mean guys please know what I'm
like if something is good my job is to say it's
good and also here's all the things that are you know really destructive
about the attitude of this company or whatever the case may be
but for me to just put my hands over my
ears and close my eyes and go la la la la la this thing doesn't exist that's not
that's not constructive that's that's not my job right my job is to
you know whether I like it or not I mean I
I took a ton of flak this is great I still wouldn't buy one XYZ reasons
yeah I took a ton of flak for the DLSS 4.5 video that I made
at CES line of shill line is paid by NVIDIA confirmed blah blah
this blah blah that uh you know he didn't even move the character
so the reason I didn't move the character in black Mithukong was because they had spent a
bunch of time getting the side by sides in exactly the same spot
camera and they had another demo right next to it where you could move the character to
your heart's content because they didn't have it just set up nicely side by
side but I took a ton of
flak for saying that DLSS 4.5
is really good because there is a subset
of the audience that just does not want to hear it
they don't want to know they want real frames and
they don't want upscaling and it's just like but
what's the benefit of that
of the frames or of not wanting to know yeah knowledge is
always worth it even if it's uncomfortable or painful you can decide
I would still rather know things you can decide you don't like it and you cannot
buy it but shouldn't you make that decision fully
informed I think so sometimes need to
hear into the darkness even if it sucks
well yeah exactly
knowing is always better 100% 100% agree pixel cat
and you know my
personal take on it is not the be all and end all either which is why we
always say it's so important to get multiple takes someone
else might look at DLSS 4.5 and go
I don't like it you know it might be closer to ground truth so that
like super super super highly sampled
image that NVIDIA is training on it might be closer to that but
here are these aspects of it that I actually don't like or I find it over
sharpened I prefer TAA you know maybe someone somewhere prefers
the TAA look right I've had people
tell me that they liked running their LCD at a non-native resolution
because they liked the sort of the free anti-aliasing
well I mean that's the thing right and that's
that's their opinion that's their perception of it
and that that it we can we can measure
you know we can measure how many FPS it is and we can measure the
sharpness of the image against a reference image and how it's like supposed to look
like an artist's intent I mean it's the same thing with TV settings people turn on their
vibrant mode they turn on the motions moving we can we can objectively
say that it's not as close to the artist's intent
but if somebody likes it then
then they like it
Dan says we ask them politely but firmly to leave
no no
that's wild
yeah the first thing I did when I was watching the broadcast of the tonight
show last night was reconfigure my hotel TV
put it in film maker mode film maker mode is like low
key one of the greatest innovations in the tech industry
in the last 10 years I'm so out of touch with TVs
film maker mode is just it's a one button turn off all the
BS the only thing that I tune after I put on
film maker mode is I will usually set it to a neutral
color temperature because I don't like the super warm look
of the film maker mode they typically go like warm
one or even warm two which is very yellow to my eye
and I really prefer a more neutral color temperature
I love film maker mode
and Ketobi says my 21 60p monitors almost always working
as a 1440p screen
they're out there guys and that's not even that crazy
I remember having a conversation with someone was it you
do you remember back when LG launched their first 5K display
vaguely so it was weird because it ran at
5K over Thunderbolt on Mac because Apple had done some really cool
engineering around their Thunderbolt port so they had like linked in multiple
DisplayPort links or something like that so that they could effectively do
like a was it like a multi tile thing what I don't remember exactly how they did it but
essentially they had more lanes so that they could drive 5K
60 or it's before anyone else could off of their Thunderbolt ports
and so when you plugged it into a PC it only ran at 4K 60
and I remember I forget who I was talking to but I remember having a conversation with someone going
like we're at the point now where this pixel density is so
high that I can run it at a non native resolution and like
I don't even care because I think it was a 27 inch monitor
yeah 5K or something yeah and and so
yeah running a 4K display assuming it's like a
relatively small one at 1440p
I wouldn't call it free anti-aliasing that I can't get
behind but yeah I would say that it's really
not that bad but when I was telling the story earlier
I wasn't talking about that you said back in the day you said LCD screens you're probably talking
I was talking I was talking like 1080p at like
720p which nah is
is but it's
not good McDouglas no no no
1440p is not 2K okay this is something that
I also like McDouglas get very triggered about
2K is the
cinema version of 1080p it is 2048
by 1080 so it is nearly the same resolution
as 1080p so 1920 by 1080
it's just slightly wider ever so slightly
wider if you want to have a K
for 1440p it would be 2.5K
because the K is how many pixels wide
and the P is how many pixels
extended embiggened?
embiggened I like that
pumped so it would be 720p
1080p 1440p
2160p or it would be
whatever 1.2K right
it would be 2K 2.5K
4K but it is worth noting that the Ks technically are different resolutions
so 4K as well is actually not 3840
by 2160 which is 2160p
4K is actually 4096
by 2160 but I think I only ever saw
like 2 monitors that used that resolution
the slightly wider cinema resolution so we've kind of
we've stolen the K even though
we're running into problems now because 8K
is like 7632 by
42 something
I can't 40 something
so the point is it's like 7.6K where it's kind of like
when we used to round hard drive capacities
and especially memory we reached the point where
like 64 gigs of memory
has so much more in it that it's like the first two digits
64 anymore and it's like kind of a problem is it 64?
I know there's a point where they don't actually like
the approximation is not actually approximate good enough anymore
bit of bit says a lot of TVs use proper 4K
very few I don't know that I've ever actually
seen a TV you'll get ones that will display
the 4K resolution to your GPU so they will allow you to output it
imagine that's just because TVs are meant to be
used in a more cinema kind of
environment I actually like or to be hooked up
to more production type equipment but in terms of how many physical
pixels they have on them they've got 38
40 by 2160 if we're talking consumer TVs
talking about consuming
shall we talk about some CW stuff?
oh yeah sure we can talk about that Dan can they hear your voice or
are we talking to a ghost? okay cool that works where do I find that?
it's in that if you want to hide something from me
you just put it in the most obvious place I will never find it
oh this is fun wait how are we going to show people anything?
we have them because there's cameras here yay
okay the cat tips collection
just got bigger we're releasing three new
Linus cat tips desk pads in aqua
black and white each with cats laying on the edges
doing cat things same great quality as our other
desk pads so they don't slip around they feel great
track great they have anti-fray edges
and they hold up awesome for everyday use but now just
so so so adorable and cat like
but wait there's more we also have three
new pins that are part of the Linus cat tips collection the calico laptop
the orange cat and mouse and the gray cat
pc perch classic LTT
store naming the title of the product is exactly
exactly what it is gray cat pc perch
they're adorable on bags jackets or a cork board and they let people know
that you love both premium tech tips and top tier cat tips
you can shop the collection at LMG.GG
slash cat tips they are so cute
they are so cute there's also onesies
before though right or those new
I don't feel like I've seen these designs before specifically with the cat
and sitting on the computer and stuff okay Dan can you show them the onesies as well
yes and there's underwear too
I thought I had seen these pictures before but I don't remember
actually seeing the cat print it's hard for me to remember because
I see them in the concept stage digitally and then I see them in fabric
strikeoffs and then I see them in physical samples and then I see them
I know we've for sure seen the game on underwear before
or onesie before but I don't know if we've seen the pixel perfect stuff
alright Dan make sure you show the people all the things
these desk pads are freaking awesome the onesie is super
super cute and the underwear is the same high quality underwear you guys know and love but now
with more cat alright
you want us to do Dan well what's a merch message
what happens if you buy something at the store oh right right right right merch messages
so if you're happening to pick up some of these stuff or if you want to interact with the show
we don't do twitch bits we don't do super chats we do merch messages
we believe here at LMG slash Floatplane
slash creator warehouse slash whatever other companies we have going on right now
that when you throw money at your screen you should get something
in return in our case high quality merch
and dice so all you got to do to send a merch message into
the show is add something to your cart on lttstore.com
like maybe a new desk pad or some fancy pins for your LTT
backpack and then you will see a little drop down that you can expand
to send a merch message you can send it anonymously or you can
send your name and it will go to producer Dan
who I assume will put himself up for a second and wave
cool I assume he's doing that because I don't actually have the preview
of the yep can't see what he's doing
cool good chat anyway the point is it will go to producer Dan
who will flash it up on the screen if you have like a shout out for someone
or who will reply to it himself or who might curate your merch message for me
and Luke to reply to why don't we do a couple merch messages
and show the people how it works yeah sure first one up here
is actually cat related did you decide yet
if the tech house will get a cat and how would you name it
I would love for the tech house to have a cat but I also
do recognize that cats are more about maintenance
than actually getting a pest problem under control if it's
a serious one and I also having lost a couple
of cats that were outdoor cats to something
you know you never know stolen, eaten, run over
who knows right like I microchip and tattoo all my pets but
it just seems like it's too much work for people to scan the back of the neck
for a microchip and call you and let you know your cat's dead or whatever I don't know
I haven't had great experiences with it over the years I
don't think I'd be super comfortable with it being an outdoor cat
but I don't see how we could have an indoor cat at a house
that we aren't living at and at regularly
so if there's a way for us to do it then great
but if there's no way for us to do it then there's just no way for us to do it
and we'll just hire a pest control service and deal with the rodent infestation that way
Hi DLL attending my first whale
land this February super excited, however
I don't really know what to expect can you give me an idea of what it'll be like
well I don't know if you've been to a general land party before but it's not
a hundred percent like that we try to do a bit more of a guided experience
so there's often times like a theme
of what people might be doing sometimes they do the theme and sometimes they don't
yeah we want to get toward
it's a progressing event we're moving towards more of a kind of
guided experience more participation or more
like activations for you to just go and
do regardless of what kind of computer you have
or what games you own because those are major obstacles
at pretty much every land that I've ever been to I don't have this game
I don't have a computer that can run this game we find that a lot of people
end up going to lands and then sitting at their computer alone scrolling
back in the day the meme was scrolling facebook but like scrolling whatever
I thought the meme was playing wow oh no I was going to say that as well
so there was either like sit on some social platform that you know you just brainrod on when you're at home
or play some game alone that you just play alone at home
and the meme was always wow so it's like it's one of those two things
so what we're trying to defeat is that cycle
and one of the ways that you can do that is actually kind of
taking the personal computer part out of the land which is
a little bit weird but if you walk up to a section of
if you walk up to a section
that is 10 computers
5 on one side, 5 on the other side facing each other and
there's 4 different games installed and they're all 5v5 games
and in line waiting to go sit there which doesn't take way
too long you can chat with the people in line and form up
2 teams of 5 try to find some balance in there pick which game you're going to play
when you sit down you all just actually lock in play that game to
whatever state of completion and then go out and go do something else
which is cool because looking at properly
even like a few times at a land is often very difficult
but with this setup which again we're not fully ready for but we're moving towards it
it gets significantly more natural
we want to lower the friction so I had a setup at the last one
that was a big projector with
5v5 tape to tape so it's like a top down hockey game
that is an absolute blast with a full
because to my knowledge and maybe I'm missing something here
but to my knowledge no one's ever done a full
humans vs humans local hockey game before
full? I seriously doubt because of goalies
even if you don't include goalies probably not like is anyone
aware of this um
I don't see anyone in chat who knows of
knows of a game like that yeah I did it online, yeah online
but like 10 people abreast on a couch
like going at it no I don't think
that's an experience
that is easy to have we've had quite a few but not the whole set
so we want to move towards experiences that are not that easy
to have on your own and I saw someone's comment
that it sounds like a fascist land and defeats the purpose of a land
it's like literally the opposite that's totally cool
if you are not into that and what makes it not fascism is that
you could go to a different land
yeah we're trying to accentuate the idea
of the benefits of being in person not the other way around
if you're there in person
I assume that the goal in some recess of your mind
was to make a human connection um
and if you don't want to do that that's totally cool
and if you want to scroll facebook or solo
something in wow or whatever there's like so many other places
that you could do that and you're so welcome to do that
in those other places but the goal is to turn whale land
into something that is more like an event that encourages active participation
um it was always the ones that I ended up having the most
fun at even if it wasn't the activity that I personally
gravitated towards either yeah one thing Dan
is uh did the camera anything get worse
I got it no no my laptop is in
battery saver mode oh god
oh maybe that's why okay in that case just take this back
and maybe I just don't have a laptop for the rest of the show solid
what what happened Dan uh it probably just dropped you from the
scene that I had but you didn't lose audio or anything
oh wait no I think my wife is sleeping
do you have a oh were you sleeping
um it's okay if you were no I wasn't
that was the most yeah I was sleeping but I don't want to
say anything answer I'm like ever
it's okay if you were sleeping I don't care
if you were sleeping oh no man what's up dude
I was just resting my eyes
come on do you have a fat power brick
find a chance that I could borrow
yeah I can catch it overhand
underhand
buddy's about to throw this thing at me
overhand
kids today anyway
alright let's plug that in and then oh I will need yet another
cable thankfully I brought a bunch of LTT cables
this wanshow powered by LTT cables both laptops are powered by LTT cables
the mic's plugged in with an LTT cable the camera's plugged in with an LTT cable
it's plugged in with an LTT cable and how reliable have the cables been
it's been going great this is a genuine interaction
that happened before the show but I was having issues with my
Elgato microphone here and was like this isn't going to change anything
but I'm just going to do it anyways
and plug it in with an LTT cable and it worked that is probably just because the other cable was busted
live unboxing of LTT cable
the box is kind of nice yeah right
is that a super long one 2 meters
yeah it's pretty long so they come with little cable tie
as you might expect got a little
LTT on there question for you
I've noticed cables ship with the caps on the ends but no one keeps the caps on the ends
once they're out in the wild yeah I know
I think it's one of those things where it's like if you don't remember
these are going to be shipping by sea they will be sitting on
on the ocean for weeks at a time
it's kind of like the plastic bags on the backpacks so inside the box
they have to be in a plastic bag and I have gone back and forth
with everyone who could possibly help me achieve some other solution
multiple times and the answer is
plastic bags because they're going to sit on the ocean
and that's just how it works got it
and I'm like okay salt and corrosion
and nasty and potential container leakage and just
they're like yep it's just not worth it
keep it wrapped for protection
it's good advice just plain and simple
so I wanted to talk about the issue that you were having with the Elgato
we have a full video coming for the launch of the LTT cables in the next little while here
and we get into this in a little bit more depth but
you may not realize how many of the cables in your life work
but would fail a signal integrity
because this cable that I was using to
attempt to use the microphone with I've been using to charge my phone
for the last at least three or four days
and so we discovered when we were going through
I think it ended up being over two dozen potential partners for our cables
we ended up finding that
oh man how do I say this I don't want to throw anyone under the bus
but basically we went through dozens of partners
until we found the one that we partnered with
every single one of them managed to submit cables for our evaluation
that might work
but would fail a signal integrity test
or some kind of aspect of our cable testing
and when one would fail let's see one bad cable
that's not the end of the world every manufacturer makes a dud once in a while
but when we found the six foot
USB-C to A or A to C or C to C or whatever
like a particular variant usually it was that entire
batch all of the cables of that type
that also failed and that
that's going to be a problem for us that's not going to fly
for us this cable that failed for me is some random generic
that has no strain relief on the end
and has been shoved into my pocket for a long time so it's like whatever
and people probably don't realize how many of the cables in their lives work
because most of those cables would still work when you plug them into things
but are relying on USB's built-in error correction
in order to function so you might not be getting the maximum speed
or you might be running into reliability problems that you blame on your devices
but are actually down to your working cable that works
fine on this device not working fine on another device
that uses a different USB controller and is maybe not as resilient
to the types of signal integrity issues that the cable is causing so
we've learned a lot about cables I think this project
took a total of four years yeah
we probably could have done it faster but we learned a lot
about everything from like supply chain to certifications
to standards to quality just
everything seems simple until you try to do it
at scale with quality and you have to like
stand behind it with warranty and that sort of thing and then all of a sudden it's like oh yeah no it's not simple
nothing's simple and everything's complicated yeah
yeah gotta love it
yeah gotta love it more topics
more topics okay well Luke's on topics because
my laptop reached such a low state of discharge that it will still not turn on
I'm happy about turning on it another thing that's unhappy is
meta lays off more than 1,000 employees from metaverse division
very cool to name your company after that maybe you should call your company
smart glasses or something face glasses
they also shuttered GVR studios
where else would you put glasses good question
meta's VR division won for only Zuckerberg himself I believe
meta's VR division reality Labs has laid off over a thousand
people in an internal memo meta CEO Andrew
Bosworth said meta will refocus on its metaverse
on its metaverse efforts on other products in the future
such as wearables okay
I suspect that means re-assigning developers but who knows
reality Labs has lost more than 70 billion dollars since 2021
according to Engadget the three VR studios that have closed
are Armature who ported
RE4 to the quest a Resident Evil 4
Sansarou who made Asgard's Wrath and Twisted Pixel
who released Marvel's Redpool VR
it just says released meta claims internally
that it remains committed to supporting the games industry
just not to the tune of losing 70 billion dollars
in five years I guess that makes sense
discussion question how many hungry children can 70 billion dollars feed
um I legitimately don't know
but it sounds like a lot but there's quite a few
I just it's not really how that works but
yeah it's not really how that works I do understand
you kind of have to try things as a company I did meme on them very much
when they were going down this route and I think everyone did
and renaming the company meta was hilarious and still is hilarious
it's still funny today but yeah
yeah we're saying like the
you know we're refocusing the metaverse efforts on other products
in the future such as wearables because they're wearables like
nobody seems to be able to touch them which is wild
dude have you seen like the video quality off of their glasses
it's nuts it's insane for like
how big it is it's so good that I kind of wish their phone
hadn't sputtered and failed but just their camera is so good
yeah
I don't know dude they seem to be kind of
I guess when you just have where am I going with this
like they have so much money to put into
into just making technology
that it seems like in the long term they kind of can't
they can't fail too hard but they totally can
have you ever heard of a company called Microsoft I mean while Microsoft is only like
the second most valuable company in the world right now yeah but their hardware launches
historically are just garbage
I I mean they've had some
really cool hardware they have had some very cool hardware
they've made some very questionable choices how much would you love to see
Microsoft come back to like gaming mice that'd be pretty cool
that was a really legendary mouse like extremely so it was very coveted
by the one with like the little red thing at the back
like that original yeah
yeah it's I mean I really liked
the what's it called the zoom I actually really
liked that I never had one but I had the software
was actually just awesome I really liked it
there's been cool Microsoft stuff they just like
I don't know they don't see to be able to figure it out I can't like what
what hardware right now other than like xbox
controllers specifically and even then they're starting to get lapped
on by the aftermarket oh dude little brother
controllers are the new big brother controllers like some
of those I was just but I think we have to admit that they had
dominance on like amazing controllers that were just
usable and just worked yes for a very long time
on the PC side anyway so they kind of dunked in regards to controllers
but outside of that like what hardware stuff if they launched that has actually done well
long-term they've effectively lost the console race at this point
yeah surface just basically out surface seems to be a low priority
now yeah kind of shadow of itself they've gone back to
it was do it was like it felt like surface was going to really be
a thing there for a bit yeah and then it feels like they lost focus
and it is fading again Windows phone disappeared
zoom was fantastic but disappeared links I thought there was a software thing
but okay no wasn't that like their conferencing stuff oh was it
yeah there was hardware associated with it if I recall correctly sure links
links is a tablet okay sure the surface
thing the like really really cool art product that they made if you remember that
oh like all in one computer that had the cool
that had such that was actually exactly a very cool product that was exactly
the product that I was thinking about when I said questionable choices yeah
because they they went with like a last-gen mobile GPU or something like that
hardware and it was super dumb yeah but the screen and
that dial thing that they had was so cool very cool so cool
the zoom it was horrible I don't know every single person I know that had one
loved it and the software was amazing I had a line in HD
incredible I think people really liked the zoom I think
saying that you hate it was horrible is actually a very unpopular opinion it just
didn't sell super well because everyone wanted an iPod yeah everyone in chat saying
they loved their zoom which doesn't mean they're not allowed to not like it you don't
no for sure I just I think it's just not like I don't think that's why I
I don't think it died because it was bad I think it died because iPod existed
and the whole world was like oh my god iPods are amazing we're just gonna buy iPods
I just love white earphones but like actually
Apple's always just been super fashionable
it's kind of incredible how they managed to do that because over this
span of time just about like can you imagine
if Fubu still had the cultural appeal
that they had you know back in the early 2000s
like Apple did like you know like you think about just like is there anything else
that back when the iPod was cool
still has the same relevance today that
an Apple you know earphone or an Apple iPhone does
like Apple relevance dipped there for a little bit
I said Fubu it was like a fashion brand
it was still higher than everything else but I feel like it dipped there for a little bit
and these days is like screaming back somehow Fubu
no Apple fashionable how fashionable Apple stuff is
these days like the whole phone thing where you're just like actually not cool or accepted
if you don't have an iPhone is like pretty intense
I'm that crazy all that long all that long
are they just like gone I think they might just be gone
that's crazy what the heck is Fubu it sounds like a streaming
service Fubu is like
sixth grade nice solid
what the okay there's an Instagram
with 2000 posts new 2026 collection coming soon
it looks it's apparently still a thing
no I'm not logging in but like
alright yeah it looks very old
it looks like they're making the same stuff
I don't know I think yeah
yeah I don't know no comment
cool do you want to do some more topics yeah
how about 42 befuddled
Amazon customers bamboozled
by $999 RTX 5090 scam
were sent fanny packs instead nice
what a bunch of Amazon shoppers 42 according to sounds hardware
bought what looked like a $999 RTX 5090
GPU GPU deal from a third party
sellers listing on Amazon way below typical prices
which are climbing as you might expect when the packages arrived
they didn't contain GPUs at all buyers reported receiving fanny
packs or other cheap items instead of RTX 5090s
can I jump in for a moment we have
an Irish lady on our fashion team
who every time we discuss the idea of releasing a fanny pack
I can imagine where
burst out laughing because
she as she later informed us fanny
has an extremely different meaning in Irish life
and just the idea of us
a tech YouTube channel merch retailer
releasing a pack that has anything to do with
a lady's fanny
tickled her sense of humor
anyway sorry carry on this is not that
this is the kind that goes on your bump which is what fanny means here
the seller fitters niche direct
had a high rating and used Amazon's fulfillment system which made the scam look legit
and kept the listing up even after complaints had started
the toms hardware article wondered did the seller succumb to the looter
of quick profits during a high demand frenzy for graphics cards
or was the account compromised by a third party turning a once reputable store front
into a scam operation overnight regardless
people are now stuck disputing refunds with Amazon and warning others that
suspiciously cheap 5090 listings can be outright scams
I like Amazon when I can
but even if you go to a lot of other stores these days
they're still like marketplaces like Best Buy
is a marketplace when you shop online it can be from other sellers
everything's a marketplace marketplace all the things
tend to just not engage with that at all I don't like it
if it's not literally from the brand of the store that I'm visiting
I would kind of just um
what's happening nothing
nothing um
just because I don't know I'm sure this really doesn't happen
that often I'm sure it's usually fine but I just like to avoid it if I can
if it's fulfilled by the by the retailer it's usually a pretty good sign
then it's usually fine but it's usually not a good deal because
as we've experienced selling fees
and fulfillment fees that these marketplaces charge to third parties
are so high that the economics of it
just usually don't make any sense for those third parties
um so it's
I just don't trust it is the bottom line
and the shipping costs are often so much higher that any deal that you're getting
on the actual purchase price of the item is is offset
by the shipping being in some cases like $150 or whatever
um so they're luring you in with a price that's $50 cheaper but then they're
making it up on the shipping realistically and to be clear there are situations where shipping
is just expensive I know we have a lot of people that get after us about shipping from
LTT Store for instance but um you can
usually tell sorry
one of the discussion questions is what is the worst you've ever been ripped off
and then in brackets it says as a youth I once accidentally
accidentally bought drugs downtown when I thought I was giving someone
change for a $50 bill
what? who is this? oh okay
one of my new guys
I feel like that's a story that I really
need to hear in more detail at some point
I read that in the brackets it's just like what
oh man uh but then if they
if they gave you the money how did you buy the drugs?
I think I've told the story of the worst time I got ripped off I cashed a check
for someone in person I went to the bank and withdrew money
and gave it to them and they gave me the check and I put it in my account it turned out to be a fake check
I was trusting and naive and I've since learned that people are garbage
and not to trust them at all that sucks
I wish I didn't have to learn that I wish I didn't have to learn that
I wish that me falling for that
was not me being stupid
that was a bizarre exception
that shouldn't have happened to anyone
but unfortunately that's not the society that we live in I was young
and it was like a couple hundred dollars or a few hundred it was like a lot of money for me at the time
sucks sucks
oh why N. Co in Floatplane chat knows a thing or two
about drug dealing and says fake bills drugs are folded inside
so the fake bill amount is how much it sells for
Dan either I'm here we're good
okay interesting that's actually like
super smart change for a 50
and then you give them 50 dollars and they give you
a wrapper with drugs in it
and you know you can do one crime of dealing drugs
when you can do two crimes of also counter fitting
yeah can you get away with like
if you bought prop money maybe
could you get away with it because it's just prop money maybe
it's like you're not allowed to sell food but you can sell paper towels
so it just comes with a sandwich there's some weird stuff
with things like that some venues they'll be like okay
you can't sell outside food
but they'll be like okay well we're selling you napkins
and the napkin is 20 dollars and if you buy the napkin it comes
with a hot dog and a bottle of water for free
I respect the hustle places do it
I respect it I respect the hustle
you probably won't be invited back to that venue yeah
that makes sense anyways next one
Wikipedia has signed AI training deals
with Microsoft Meta and
Amazon I don't know why
but I wasn't expecting this I can see
sorry maybe I should go through the thing first but I can
no I'm gonna just talk about it first and we'll see how it goes from there
I can see why they would do this because realistically they're all gonna
train off of it anyway so they might as well be paid
and Wikipedia as an organization might as well be
sustainable I'm skipping to the end here but I think this quote is good to go now
the last note we have on here is here's a good Jimmy Wales quote
I wouldn't really want to use an AI that's trained only on X
you know a very angry AI but I don't know
but I think what they're saying is like if we have good data and this stuff
is just gonna be a thing anyways maybe we should
help them use the good data so it's not as bad
so they've struck licensing deals with major tech companies including
Microsoft Meta, Amazon Perplexity and Mistral to give them paid access
to Wikipedia's huge library of articles for training AI models
the Wikimedia Foundation has not used financial terms or exact amounts
involved this is a shift from scraping to commercial
access and these deals let companies use Wikipedia content through
Wikimedia's Enterprise API at high speeds and volumes
replacing the old practice of pulling data off of the free site
the Foundation hopes that the revenue that these AI partnerships creates
will help cover rising server and infrastructure costs
costs that are at least partially driven by AI data scrapers
Wikipedia's co-founder Jimmy Wales says he likes that AI models
train on human curated content and sees working with AI firms
as being better than blocking them as long as they help sustain the site
which is essentially pretty much what I said then
which like I think this is
someone taking a positive take to something that sucks
but you know what I can respect that
if you were a Wikipedia contributor though you're not paid at least
the vast majority are not paid how would you feel about
donating your labor to Wikipedia now that your work is
at least indirectly fueling commercial AI products?
I genuinely would bet on the idea that at least some contributors will bail
some people are very militant about AI and usage of AI training
that being said at the top of every page in Wikipedia
forever has been like please my goodness
donate it's a site that gets a lot of usage
a lot of data flows through it, they need money as far as my understanding goes
they don't need money as bad as it seems all the time but still
they need funding if this helps, that's neat
like you said, they're going to get scraped anyways for sure
guaranteed already has been MrGF says can they remove the donate banners now
I guarantee you they won't because even if
they could if I were them, I wouldn't
I would keep it and I would build a bigger war chest because
this AI bubble is going to either pop or significantly
recede and they're not going to want to like
suddenly have to go back to being donation dependent
and have people be out of the habit of seeing it and get all riled up about it again
I would see them just
just continuing, staying the course maybe they don't push it quite as aggressively
if they don't need to, but I don't see them changing that at all
when bingo asks would you be open to having linustechtips.com scraped
to have AI give better tech help well lttlabs.com
already gets scraped out the frickin butt
so what is it like oh man
oh I wasn't ready for this there's two different services
that are like very well known public things
that are like laying people off and slowly shutting doors because
they can provably track that AI usage is just like
literally destroying their companies I don't remember
I know oh man Dan will know this immediately
tailwind of course Dan
flow clean guy knows tailwind so tailwind that's a thing for
because when you're doing AI assisted coding
it's just doing it for you so like
you don't need to use their service anymore so they've had to do like big layoffs
and don't know if they'll be able to exist much longer really
and then stack overflow there we go oh my god of course someone said it
stack overflow is showing that their traffic is just like
plummeting at a time where like more people than basically ever
are doing like amateur coding
because of being able to code with LLMs stack overflow is going way down
you would expect the opposite but they're doing with LLM support
instead of searching through Q&A article things on
stack overflow it's been
wild
congrats in flow plane chat says AI is really really good
at tailwind so if your AI is writing tailwind you don't need to view their docs
which is where tailwind pushes their monetization
I see yeah it's just it's
that's the thing about disruptive technologies
is that the disruption is not
equitable and not always
positive in the long term
Yuri Cornell says stack overflow is basically back
where it started over 10 years ago that's wild dude
yeah that's wild
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alright I want to jump into something really quick I saw
so actually a variety of chatter set effectively the same thing so
I'm not gonna say the name of the person who said this one but Stack Overflow
is full of self this is a quote from someone at Full Blend Chat
Stack Overflow is a full of self important jack butts
who'd rather put you down for having the audacity to ask a question
rather than actually answer it and that's a specific quote but a bunch of people said
genuinely effectively the same thing and I find this is a really
interesting topic because
that is being used and not by this individual
and I'm not trying to call this individual out that is being used as a justification
to effectively shudder the source of where a lot of this
information came from and promote and use
the thing that took all the information and taking what is unfortunately
a very human real interaction
and replacing it with a robot that will just glaze the crap out of you
and tell you that you're actually the smartest person in the world to answer this question
it's kind of hard to tough
the situation is tough it's hard to imagine
a community that wouldn't eventually
turn kind of toxic which is unfortunate
but it's also can you think of one though
a community that never turned toxic
like hit me up guys hahahaha
oh man very cool
very cool LTT forum is actually pretty good
but it's had its moments it's definitely had its moments
very high toxicity and it has I was
because of that whole thing with the LTT subreddit
I was digging through a couple of the long time
toxic members of the LTT forum
as kind of part of my conversation with the reddit mods going like look
if I was as Ben happy as you guys seem to have gotten it
into your heads that I am these are people that would be
long gone and I was looking through the infraction history
for a couple of members of the LTT forum going
we're kind of at the point where this is now
subpar community management but these people are still around
but I guess I've made five points
we set standards for the forum a long time ago which is kind of tough
hey spotty he's one of the long time moderators
on the LTT forum he goes yeah there's a few bands
that are over to you hahahaha
but yeah it's just not really a thing but I understand
you're just trying to figure something out you're confused out of your freaking mind
you post a thing and people make fun of you it's not a good situation
but is it better for your brain for
to have extremely non real interactions
oh man I don't know
I don't have an answer here it might be
but I feel like you're going to end up in these very human scenarios
and just be totally caught off guard
by people not telling you that you're the most brilliant, beautiful, amazing
human being that's ever landed on earth every time you ask
like how centered if please yeah
foxman8344 I accidentally read youtube chat
says I don't need ai to glaze me I just need it to give me the answer
but it will glaze you it just doesn't tell you anything
and treats you like an idiot it's unfortunate but a fact
and that's their lived experience and that doesn't make
the tragedy of what Luke is saying
any less real or any less true I'm not even trying to go after the people that are saying that
I'm not saying it's invalid or whatever
I'm just saying it's kind of tough that we're ending up in this scenario
where we're dodging things to interact with something
in a way that is supposed to feel very human
but it's actually super not because it is
like extremely obtusely nice to you
all the time and a lot of people won't tell it not to be
you can but almost no one does
Sarah Lafayette says the farming simulator community is pretty warm
and fuzzy and farming sim has been around for a long time
I think that counts I think that counts actually
and there's even competitive farming sim let's go with that
do you know there's farming simulator esports? that sounds amazing
it's actually really awesome that sounds amazing
we found it we found the warm and fuzzy corner of the internet
but you said once they get really big
how big is the farming sim did I say big or did I say long time?
I thought you said both I don't know how big the farming sim community is
how many people are playing farming sim right now I'm looking it up
farming sim active player count how many of these people
need to engage in the social side of it shut up ai
hold on what would you define as big
for an active player count anywhere from
afternoons late afternoon on a friday
when's the most recent one that released what year is it?
is it 2025? I don't know
this is very uneducated people in chat are saying 60k, 30k
I know I was going to say 5
you'd say 5k? I'll back you
I have no idea 5k is big
35,000 shut up
wow 35,000 players playing right now
the 24 hour peak is 39,000 I think this exceeds
any expectation that seems like a lot of people
I haven't spent a ton of time on steam charts to see if this is actually a lot or not
all time peak looks like it was probably when
25 released 1600 people watching on twitch
right now that's not a lot
number 80 for daily active users number 57 for top sellers
it's pretty serious it's clearly a big deal in terms of players
but to me the twitch that's indicated
this feels like a game that doesn't require you to be super social
the community might not be super big even though there's quite a few players
look at the old versions in addition to 2025
I'm still counting it I'm counting it
if this is a warm and fuzzy community look up 2024 as well
sure, oh yeah cause this is just specifically this was a good point from Insomniac
in fulcantia 2022 is apparently
there do be a lot the last one
ok 7600 players playing right now
so if you were it's probably not worth going through all of them
but if you pile through every 17 has 1300 players
there's a lot of these to click on
ok it's starting to really drop off 17 has 337
it's not nothing though if you release a little indie game
and it had 337 concurrence you'd be pretty stoked
like 10 years later alright
it's huge how many people are playing the new ANO
oh cause we're not
I know, I've been needing to try it
oops dang it, hold on
I got this, I got this farming seems also on game pass
dang oh wow, so yeah that would be even more
4000 people are playing the new ANO with an all time, wait what
oh this is 1800, whoops this is the old ANO
this is the old one it's good to know actually
3700 playing the new one
and that's down from an all time peak of
50,000 2 months ago while we're here check out the new sieve
versus sieve 6 and sieve 5 that's a whoops
hold on, the oh wow
the user reviews are 10%
less likely to be positive for the new ANO
it's only 70% positive whereas the old one, 1800
was 79.93% positive so nearly 10 full percentage
points more positive whoopsie doodles
oh okay, alright so hold on civilization
7, yeah Sid Meyers
7 versus 6 versus 5 that's what I'm interested in
bring them all up boys, okay so 5 you still got
17,000 people playing right now that's pretty good actually
5 is like my favorite one that's like get your vegetables
cause that's salad
what salad? it's good, it's solid
yeah, it's solid alright, sieve
oh I spoiled it, that's sieve 6 33,000
I got it spoiled but holy crap
sieve 7 8
literally getting doubled up
by sieve 5 by the 2 generation older one
and quadrupled up by the last gen sieve 6
cause sieve 5 is my favorite one sieve 6, once you got some expansions
in there, actually quite good I didn't like it on launch but it's a lot better now
but I have a soft spot for sieve 5
wow get dunked on
sieve 7 kinda unfortunate cause I really like sieve
but man sieve 7 just
reeked right out of the gate so many design decisions in sieve 7
that were just like the immediate second
cause it even existed that's disgusting
look at the user reviews my god man
under 50% positive I mean someone likes it
so that's something I mean you often say
a game for everyone is a game for someone this is a game for not many
but someone some 8,000 people
chose to play this over 6 or 5 right now
now they chose that maybe they got it for free with their arc gb
they were like wait I own all these other games already wait I could have gotten battlefield 6
damn this was a mistake
look at stardew valley there's a lot of high tails a game that just launched
that is theoretically very popular almost 60,000 people playing stardew valley right now
I still haven't played it I really gotta try it
I'm also concerned that my life could be consumed by a game like this
I got I actually tried to play at one point
then I got super obsessed over the timing cause like the seasons
will turn over I got super obsessed over min maxing
like the turn over of the season you?
and buying pre-saving money to buy the right
seeds for the beginning of the next one and selling things at the right time
this is the point of this game I think it is the point of the game
maybe I think the point of the game is you can play it however you want to play it
that's fair high tail
last one
oh right it's not on steam it's like it's own launcher
or something we're moving on then
okay that's what we're doing audibly
cause we can see the sign don't make me point at the sign
tap tap tap we could do more sponsors
we could do more topics up to you guys you tell us what to do Dan
we're in another time zone and our brains are dead sure all technically I am too
insane so let's finish off sponsors why not
I see what? I'm in a different time zone than you
oh my god okay what did he say?
sponsors or topics let's just finish off the sponsors
okay never mind let's do a very short topic
then we'll do that you can now reserve a hotel
room on the moon for a quarter million dollars
there's an article on Ars Technica
what? yep a company called Gru Space
wants to make habitats on the moon
and have invited people to put down a deposit
I figured out our grift oh yeah Luke and I were talking about
how our lives would have been a lot easier and a lot more lucrative
if we had just grifted at every opportunity to grift
we should have just made a coin we still could make a coin
we could make adequate coin yeah
six hours after launch yeah
we say that but then we do it in five and a half hours yeah oh that's good
that's good got him but no Linestown
we've been talking about it forever Linestown is on the moon and you can pre-sell property
why? oh my god stop it yeah
it's perfect it really does seem like people
it really does seem like there's no consequences though like in the world we're living in
that was what really prompted this conversation is we're in New York obviously
because we're here for The Tonight Show and
we were talking about how the former mayor of New York launched a coin
shortly after getting booted out of office for being like
mega mega corrupt and
launched a coin and then within hours
Rugg pulled it and made millions of dollars allegedly and
and how just like that was the most
obvious possible outcome
and yet it happened
and someone somewhere was probably surprised
and there doesn't seem to be
any long-term consequences and it's just like
at some point you kinda look around
and you kinda go like
is there is there no reward
for just being honorable like where is Luke's millions of dollars
where is it I think adequate coin
is your millions of dollars we need like that in the arms of an angel
song to play in the arms of an angel
when you're saying where is Luke's millions of dollars hahahaha
Corey G says meanwhile I'm in debt and if I did that I'd be prosecuted
yeah right like it's you're not rich enough to scam fool
figure it out nwash says
my theory is it's not regular people putting their money into Eric Adams's cryptocurrency
it's a money laundering scheme but here's the thing like I
I'm having a deja vu moment because we
literally talked about this on the last WAN Show is it such a
like I don't actually know so I'm just gonna say
I don't know money laundering explanation
I don't actually think that a lot of the things we dismiss as
I don't know probably money laundering are actually money laundering
what would be the point of having like a way to bribe
a formerly elected official he's not the mayor of New York City
anymore he's not anybody anymore so what would be the
what would be the benefit of giving him a bunch of money who
is laundering the money like what's the there might still be connections there like I know
um yeah
I suspect there's still a lot of political connections even though he's not the mayor anymore
sure but millions I don't know
but what is he what can he impact
at this point and what illegitimate source of money
is being laundered because that's the point of money laundering
is that you have illegitimate income that you are trying to turn into
legitimate cash so just giving it
to the former mayor of New York I might be wrong
maybe that is totally money laundering and it was super effective
who knows yeah
Charmander used Char and it was
I don't know burn the money
maybe it works
okay should we should we next topic
yeah I'm just yeah I'm sorry
I'm just trying to I don't actually care
I don't have anything to add I don't know what the
the answer to this is obviously this is ridiculous don't
spend 250k on a thing that's almost certainly never going to exist
no I should okay
not never but I expect to be dead so yeah
before there's a hotel on the moon we will have a moon base
or I will be very sad but I don't think there's going to be a hotel
like an actual like check in hotel
what if you could rent a room on the moon base with that count
I don't but it's not like strictly like it would work
that way I don't know how it would work to be honest with you
I mean with the cuts to NASA
but then again like the Chinese are rapidly pursuing more lunar stuff
right now so I'm pretty sure we're going to have a moon base
who's we though like people in general
earthlings I'm fairly certain we'll have a moon base
and I don't even think it's going to be like way too much longer Artemis is like happening
but will we be able to go wailing on the moon
which trillionaire will first
migrate whales from earth to the moon yeah to go wailing on the moon
we carry our harpoons maybe they just bring themselves and that's good enough
but there ain't no whales so we tell tall tales and sing a wailing tune
it's a future on the moon
anyways moving on
someone got it thank you the US Department of Commerce lifts planned crackdown on Chinese drones
including DJI with some caveats
we talked about this on Wancho before they were essentially banning all Chinese drones
from being sold in the US including their parts
but there's been an update the US Department of Commerce have partially reversed their planned crackdown on Chinese drone sales
in the country citing improved relations with
China I guess although the FCC and DOC
bans are two different things cool
yeah neat the lifting of these restrictions will allow drone manufacturers
to import units that are already approved by the FCC
meaning that companies like DJI could potentially import their older models
but not newer ones I thought that was basically what it was already
so maybe I'm maybe I'm missing something here
the FCC ban on brand new foreign made drones still stands
so we'll keep you guys posted on that but there's a lot of drone enthusiasts
within the tech sphere and like I said I have a personal interest
in this story just because of my brother in law's company, Spexy
they do the drone mapping thing that they're doing it's really cool
and they kind of rely on people having drones
affordable access to high quality drones pretty important for them
I'm just kind of keeping a finger on the pulse of this one
speaking of corruption, YNCO I think must have cleared
it might have who knows
I have no idea but it was quite the turnaround
speaking of turnarounds, GROC has finally been updated to stop undressing
women and children according to X-Safety way to go GROC, really happy you disabled
the shelf in the meantime so that didn't continue happening this entire time
that was a really responsible decision and truly a respectable
self self
self-governance move
so that thing we just said didn't happen brief history, GROC was discovered
generating thousands of non-consensual sexualized images by virtually undressing
women and even children from regular photos triggering investigations in the UK
California and bands in Indonesia and Malaysia
imagine Indonesia and Malaysia being like the countries that have the stones
to just act on this and no one else
really Musk dismissed criticism as censorship
because of course he would and X's only initial response
was putting timeline based image editing behind a paywall
so basically you had to pay to at GROC in the response to a picture to ask it to change it
but it was still possible to tap on the image and edit it using the image editing tools
and then use the GROC app to generate images as well situation as of Thursday
X-Safety finally announced technological measures to stop GROC
from undressing people into bikinis slash revealing clothing
restricting image editing to paid subscribers and geo-blocking the feature where it's illegal
a change that came only after California Attorney General
Rob Bonta opened an investigation into whether XAI is facilitating
large-scale production of deep fake non-consensual intimate images
it's amazing how like
how slow the law works for large
rich entities
we are opening an investigation what are you talking about
your investigation is open a web browser
what are you even talking about
pushback from the Verge despite X's announced restrictions
the Verge found it took less than a minute to bypass them GROC still complied
with requests to show cleavage make breasts bigger
put subjects in crop tops and low-rise shorts
which produced bikini images extremely revealing lingerie
and sexualized poses all using free accounts with only a trivially
bypassable age checkbox without checking the Verge's article
and to their credit so
but I actually suspect that it took less than a minute
thing was their first attempt
I don't think they mean it takes less than a minute to do it every time
oh yeah I think they can break it instantaneously now
and they just with almost no effort made this happen immediately
do you think if Elon was a hot young woman who was
you know physically modest these things would be different
I just mean like it's very clear
that the leadership just doesn't care
about about this
and completely lacks empathy
for anyone who is impacted by it because
the slow rolling of any kind of action
ineffective action even is just
see here's the thing though Kitsunilane
you're saying no they care it's a money making opportunity
except it isn't they're not making money on this
generating these AI images costs a fortune
so it's like losing money
just to try to win this
LLM space race that
maybe will never be profitable
and harming people in the meantime like there's no real
so I mentioned this in flipping chat it's a very off topic but
I had forgotten about it and I really doubt it's in the dock because this is very
new information I think this morning
while you find it PK7 says remember when Microsoft's chat
bot was shut down in under a day when people made it turn into a Nazi years
ago now LLMs are just completely running haywire
and everyone's like yeah that's what they do yeah I remember
so it was SB in full plane chat so can we talk about Canada allowing Chinese
cars with a 6% tariff did you see that oh really that's a thing
holy crap that would be huge
I think it's like is it done I think so shut up
6% that's reasonable
yeah slashes 100% tariffs to just
6% when did this happen like this morning
oh today yeah whoa
49,000 unit annual quota joint venture
focus okay so basically what I would have wanted
because as far as my understanding goes they're hoping to get some of the
I'm sure it'll just be finishing but some of the manufacturing here well yeah I would hope so
yeah okay cool
has agreed to allow an annual quota 49,000 Chinese electric vehicles
tariff rate of just 6.1% certainly targets the low
end of the market so affordable more than 50%
of these should be affordable EVs with an import price of less than 35,000
dollars is that CAD please tell me that's CAD because that
would be a game changer for affordability of EVs
that's a quote so I think it would like have to be according to the prime minister's
office why would they be talking in usd yeah
wild here we go the interesting detail here is the joint venture language it looks
like Carney is taking a page of China's own book kind of seems to be using this quota as
a carrot to get companies like BYD and cattle to set up
shop in Canada maybe help Canadian companies learn from those giants
because that's technically what China did with Tesla
where they invited them in as this idea of like you're currently better
than all of our companies but if you're here we'll get to see what you're doing
and learn from you I don't think there will be all of that much
that we can learn from the
Chinese way of making them cheaper it's probably not going to work for us
I'm excited by the joint venture thing because I mean jobs are
always good but this is like very
should be relatively obvious to everyone this is
this is very obviously a
political coin
there's been I mean there was a I think it was like the ambassador to Canada
on a radio show in Canada recently said
like basically we don't need you guys for anything which is like
you know what fair enough but then we have to play that game too
so that's part of this I strongly suspect
it's definitely all political pawn hackers like I often see
people say you know I don't want to talk about politics
I don't want to think about politics and it's like politics isn't
waiting for you to talk about it it's not waiting for you to think about it
you can try to leave politics alone but politics is not going to leave you alone
it just doesn't it just doesn't work that way
just we would go on
like no I don't think so
can you what can they see
hahahaha hahahaha
hahahaha he's like ever so lightly
snoring okay is this against
TOS? I don't know if you have people awake
oh and then
you sleep for it to be a sleeping stream there are sleeping streams now
I thought they're against TOS no they're a thing now 100%
they're sleeping streams now oh really? oh 100%
okay yeah that's probably fine
probably fine no it's not against TOS
and that's how politics works yeah there you go
okay I guess it's kosher so we're good
sure hahahaha
hahahaha hahahaha
hahahaha okay well I mean
yeah yeah I guess we just keep going he's comfortable yeah he seems happy
I think it's fine hahahaha
should we oh let's do the rest of the sponsors
then we'll talk about NVIDIA resurrecting we did
yeah we did that already okay so it's not sinking
but collapsing really? because I'm fairly certain I did
is it still open for you? did you collapse it or is it still open?
oh was it just in here twice? it's in here twice
oh this topic
no that's a different topic it is? yeah
oh okay the other one
they're highly related why don't we do the sponsors
and then we've got a few more topics and then we'll do after dark
if Sammy is hourly is this paid since he's on camera
is the whole area is full of click comment I have no idea
hahahaha I don't know I'm not gonna
worry about that right now Sammy had a very demanding day yesterday
I think it was up pretty late working so what he's gonna do is give him a hard time
because he clocked out clocked the heck out
he also I think might be working later because he has to get that social post up
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Yeah Apple
picks Google's Gemini AI for its big Siri upgrade
and other Google AI stories Apple and Google announced a multi-year
collaboration where Apple will base the next generation of its Apple
foundation models on Google's Gemini models and cloud technology
with the partnership powering future Apple intelligence features including a more
personalized Siri expected in 2026
I'm going off script here but it kind of sounds like Apple just
gave up Maybe not maybe not
Maybe this will be like the Apple car Wait
Okay anyway Pretty much Google's Gemini models will serve as
the technical foundation allowing Apple to bring more advanced AI features to its kind of lagging
ecosystem more quickly Despite the partnership according to their
statement Apple will retain control over its AI ecosystem
even while using Google's Gemini models Apple intelligence features will continue
to run on Apple devices and its private cloud infrastructure ensuring that user
privacy remains central Okay
Meanwhile, Google unveiled the Universal Commerce Protocol
UCP an open standard designed to enable agentic commerce letting
AI agents complete the full shopping journey
Shopping journey good lord By providing a common
language that connects agents, retailers payment providers and platforms
UCP has been co-developed with major retail partners
and widely endorsed including by companies like Shopify, Etsy, Wayfair, Target
and Walmart It's also compatible with existing protocols
such as agent to agent agent payments protocol and model
context protocol Alright I mean honestly
As a store I like it
As a consumer I'm just like oh my god can we just
and crapify everything can it just like
tell me how many tablespoons of coffee grounds to use
like can it just and not recommend the best is part of
waking up like can we just not you know but it will
it's all head in that direction Google is also introducing tools
to help retailers in the agentic commerce era including business agent
which lets shoppers chat directly with brands in search
it's not all good news for Google
a Guardian investigation found that Google's AI overviews provided inaccurate
and potentially dangerous health information for example
sharing misleading liver function test data that could reassure seriously
ill users it also lacked important medical context
such as age, sex and ethnicity in response Google removed
some of these health related AI overviews including for the aforementioned
liver test queries but health experts and charities warned that similar
problematic AI summaries still appear for other sensitive topics and urged
the company to steer users toward reliable evidence based
health resources so agree this was a large
summary of many things I'm going to jump kind of back up to the top with the
Siri upgrade going for Gemini they were previously signed up
with open AI this jump especially with
a long-term jump is very interesting for the whole
bubble pop conversation because there's been a bunch of counters
to the bubble pop conversation including that even if
the AI bubble pops a lot of the companies
that are in the AI bubble
are companies that are just revenueing a ton of money
even regardless of AI stuff going on yep so like
it's a bit of a tough situation but one of the
very interesting important parts of the AI
bubble thing has been that open AI is at the center of basically
all of it and open AI doesn't have very good cash flow
yep and this really can't help
no this is a huge problem because what a news story
to lose that contract has got to be brutal
for them because it's not just that
they lost a contract is that they lost a contract with the
what's the mind share? winner of the phone race more or less
I enjoy my Android but like so does 70 plus percent of the world
even though America loves its iPhone but in the place where a lot of people spend
a lot of the money iPhone is dominating
and it's like man
it's uh this is very interesting
so we'll see how it goes
Apple steered clear of the search wars now they're steering clear of the AI wars
yeah but it doesn't necessarily mean I don't personally take this as a signal as they're out forever
I take this as a signal as they're not bothering to dive in
while it's just like money dumpster fire if I'm one of these big companies
and I'm looking at this personally and I'm not touching it at all
because what I'm seeing happen is progress is made
and then progress is immediately open sourced afterwards and then progress is made
and then it's immediately open sourced afterwards and it's like I don't feel like I'm losing ground
in this at all
the like dig up a data center thing sometimes it's better to just lease a car
that someone else built than to design and build your own car from scratch
I could completely see that perspective just jump in and do it later
like they'll figure it out
and it's Apple we're talking about there's a lot of things Apple does
that I'm not aligned on but if there's anyone
that could just Sherlock something later literally
the term Sherlock is Apple doing this
this is their entire history
they went the silicon
in the market is not good enough yeah
perfect example who else could do that
I'll wait ok ok ok
Amazon does have silicon Google has silicon
it's a good example it's a short list
if Apple decided later that this is a very mature
space now they have
enough money to buy the earth and all the heavens they can build a team
and they could make an AI product and they could cut ties
and that is what gives Apple leverage in their negotiations
that's why Apple is not going to be paying as much to
a giant like Google or to open AI or to whoever they partner with
because they are someone that can incredibly sit across the table from you and go
to myself but honestly
it totally makes sense to me that they are not building their own right now
I mean look at freaking meta look how much money they are pouring into it
what market share are they getting what contracts are they winning
nothing what are they gaining
just horrible slop on all of their platforms
more engagement on their platforms more
add I mean look okay here is a scary thought
if meta can learn a lot about you
by what real things you would engage with how much more can they learn about you
by what sort of twisted contorted how much more granular
can they get if they can create literally anything
that can appeal like directly to you maybe as far as my
uninformed person listening to some other
nebulously informed people talk about things
understanding goes a lot of the
content generation stuff is not really making money
right now there is a bunch of money in
productivity stuff with LLMs and what not
that is largely due to the forced shoe horning of these tools into things like
Office 365 and Google Workspace and stuff like that
but a lot of the like slop creation
junk is not proving to at least currently be very
profitable for these things and if you look at the ways that they are trying to monetize
it is through like selling you products through chat
not something to do with content creation of videos but
yeah do you be looking at this one?
no nothing important
yeah I don't know I think this is super interesting
I think it's I'm not too surprised
but it's very interesting in regards to like the constant chess match
that is AI projects and companies
and Google and Apple in particular they compete so directly
in some spaces and are so
codependent in others I mean this was always interesting
weird dynamic Samsung was doing the screens
for iPhones for a long time or something they still do
and they compete so these two business units will be
bitter rivals and these two will be
super tight partners that's business apparently
yeah
okay what do we got left? we've got
it's an AI news story roundup we didn't just do that
no I guess not in the latest Windows 11 insider preview build
IT administrators on pro enterprise and education devices can
uninstall the built in Microsoft co-pilot app but only if the device
has both co-pilot and Microsoft 365 co-pilot installed
the app wasn't user installed and it hasn't been launched in the
past 28 days with the paid co-pilot service
still remaining on the system so our take on this is almost
soon what the heck
what a weird what a weird list of requirements
now with that said I thought I uninstalled the
okay I have disconnected my co-pilot key
so when I press it it says the co-pilot key isn't connected
to an action choose what you'd like to happen and my options are
search non-selected and custom
so that's weird
okay so this is a weird one for me because I thought I removed
co-pilot from this PC yeah so when I click co-pilot
in there it just brought up
an edge browser it was loading the like get co-pilot page
yeah so yeah that's weird I thought you
could remove it how to remove programs let me see
yeah have I misunderstood because I removed the co-pilot app from my computer
I have no idea it's for sure not on my computer at home
but this also didn't mention home
pro enterprise and education so maybe it wasn't removable from those
oh interesting send on FC and Floatplane chat
says mine reappeared I uninstalled it two weeks ago
just checked and it's back so I don't know anything about that
yeah comma black said I don't have co-pilot
on my Windows 11 pro never had I've never had it
online really on
I'm not this one oh okay I'm talking about my desktop yeah okay
well you do you do you have to meet the requirements for it to
automatically install co-pilot like do you have to have an NPU because your desktop I mean
well it has your no it has a 40 series GPU so that would
that probably has enough tops yeah so it looks like my laptop has it
yeah it would be installed by default on your laptop anyway well make
that whatever you will then I've had a co-pilot key and I literally never even
noticed it don't know not once I did not know this was
on my computer
neat I just hit it accidentally every once in a while
I use function left right for home
and end a lot yeah and it's I use Windows and arrow keys all the time
I've just never bumped it I guess you have a control key between your arrow keys and your co-pilot
right oh you don't so I mash it a bunch when I when I go
left arrow key and my arrow keys kind of dip down so they're easier to differentiate
I prefer those yeah me too band camp announced
in its keeping band camp human blog post that it is banning
music and audio created wholly or substantially by generative
AI and prohibiting AI tools that impersonate other audience other
artists or styles on its platform to ensure fans can trust the music they find
is human made cool I wish them luck with that I hope that it works it's
going to be tough to enforce going to get harder at certain scales and stuff it
will work and that's really cool and there should be platforms that you can go to and trust
exactly getting a human experience and I think band camp is really well
positioned to be one of those platforms meanwhile a senior police
official in West Midlands UK has confirmed that an intelligence
report generated with the help of Microsoft co-pilot falsely
invented a football match between West Ham and Maccabi
Tel Aviv and that this AI error was used without verification
to justify banning Maccabi fans from a Europa League
game highlighting serious reliability issues with AI and critical
decision making and especially
people not verifying its output yeah oh yeah
in other news multiple police departments
accidentally leaked millions of surveillance records
by failing to redact license plates in public records releases of
flock audit logs exposing 2.3 million license
plates and tens of millions of searches revealing who
police are surveilling and why
the leak exposes man flock just cannot catch a break lately
and it couldn't happen to a nicer company the leak exposes a fundamental
flaw in flocks design because searches query up to
80,000 cameras nationwide in the US
single departments redaction failure can expose sensitive
investigations from thousands of other departments
across the country that's so sick
whoa flocks response
was to attack transparency rather than fix the problem
instead of auto redacting exports they removed
officer names and plate data from the audit logs entirely and threatened
the creator of have i been flocked.com with bogus ip
takedown requests which cloud flare
based rejected as having insufficient evidence
of a violation amazing
love it flock CEO Garrett Langley framed
public records requests as a coordinated attack by activists wanting to defund
the police little dated on that reference
Virginia's police chief rejected this calling concerned citizens
democracy in action and the city canceled its flock contract
days later our discussion question is
is the have i been flocked website putting people in danger
that always is the conversation around this whole like
exposing data leaks security through obscurity is not a thing
somebody has access to this by exposing it
yes we're driving more eyeballs to it and that can have negative
unintended consequences but also in the longer term
we need security to be taken seriously and this is the only way
to get anyone's attention look at flocked
have i been flocked here is the incorrect move after flocked specifically
they were clearly not going to fix anything they don't want to fix anything
it costs money to fix things yeah
yeah
hey welcome back morning sunshine
how's it going next topic
next topic speaking of next topic
the state we're in new york state takes steps to ban 3d printed guns
there's a proposal that requires 3d printer manufacturers
to prevent weapon printing that won't work
governor kathy hey you spoiled the ending luke
we were going to have a whole conversation governor kathy ochule
unveiled proposed legislation requiring 3d printer solar
used in new york to include safeguards that prevent printing guns or gun parts
aiming to curb un serialized ghost guns
the bill would criminalize possessing or sharing gun printing
using CAD files without authorization require police to
log recovered 3d printed firearms in a statewide database
sure and push manufacturers to redesign pistols
to resist illegal automatic fire conversions
cool researchers warn online communities
and step-by-step guides are lowering barriers to DIY weapons
while critics say targeting manufacturers won't meaningfully reduce violence
amid lawsuits over conversion devices
pistol redesigns to prevent illegal modifications
so yeah here's the issue
and this is something that I think we can speak to with
a fair bit of authority being in Canada there's a lot of firearms
that are banned in Canada and it makes exactly this much
difference because our neighbor the US&A does not
have bans on said weapons and getting them over the border
for narrative wells is pretty easy and the ban only really
impacts one of the biggest people who played by the rules
recent bans of Canadian firearms was spurred
because of a shooting event but if I remember correctly this was the one
that banned pistols sold in Canada but all of the guns
used in the shooting were smuggled in from the states so it literally had
nothing to do and I'm not trying to go on any political line here literally at all
it's just what?
this actually was literally completely unrelated we had 2 plus 2 and we went
3 yeah
so it's really not going to make a difference okay so you ban it in New York
what if someone drives over the state border with a 3D printer
the really funny part is like I was
a grown adult by the time I realized that
America has like 2 states
that are like some ridiculous percentage of its overall
land mass and the world was a lot smaller
back in the 1800s so there's like
all these states
where we went around with horses and we walked from one state to the next
and then you go like west and it's like California
Texas is big Texas, big old Arizona
state you know we got all these big states over here and so
the idea of a geographical
banning having an impact
in a state the size of New York
where you could like walk there from
you know I don't know what Pennsylvania
Rhode Island, Connecticut
what are you even talking about I'm going to ban
3D printers from making guns in New York
it's not like there's a border also like good luck dude
you're not doing checking people's bags
it's not a concert you're not walking through a metal detector
like what even like if you reduce it down
to individual parts like what you're printing a frame
and then a tube and then whatever else
like how are you going to actually define that these are gun parts and then if you do
that successfully people will just make them look weird
and then just trim them down to being normal or just leave them looking weird because
they don't care like it's it's not going to function
but I mean good luck
yeah
and to be clear yes it's far
someone's like walk from Rhode Island to Pennsylvania and I'll buy everything on LTTstore.com
yes that is very far but in the grand scheme of things
it is not very far to transport a 3D printer
if you really needed to especially when there is no
security apparatus whatsoever that would prevent you from doing it
yeah
DarkGuy2 says I think this is less about preventing people from making them
but when the cops find them they can charge them and like sure
I just can't see any reason
why the narrow-dwells wouldn't just set up shop
in New Jersey or Massachusetts or Vermont
New Hampshire or Maine or West Virginia or Ohio or Kentucky
and then just drive a couple hours into New York this talk book was also talking
about modifying pre-existing sold
firearms namely pistols to shoot
they're saying automatic fire conversions
I think they mean no longer being semi-auto
generally referred to as adding a switch to a clock so you can just hold
and it just fires your whole mag that's a whole other
conversation and if you're doing that
I don't think you care just say
you're already breaking so many laws at that point like what's
breaking a 3D printing law on top of it just throw it in there who cares
um yeah
I don't know dude laws
that impact criminals and
law abiding citizens and do not
impact criminals are not my favorite
I do understand you have to draw the line somewhere
yes like RPGs should probably not just be legal for civilians
just buy and open carry like there's gotta be
well you laugh right but like there's
my brain for some reason just thought of an RPG holster just like
that's a huge thing just in the lab says like a catapult
like you probably shouldn't have a catapult strapped to the back of your coffin
oh but yeah that's the you know like a balista
just on the top of your Mustang like with a hole in the roof
you can like there's it would look sick
there's gotta be you know there's gotta be a line
somewhere um
I want to take who are you D brand
but yeah I one of my things is like if you look
back at when firearms first got introduced like
if you go to very basic levels they're very primitive at this point
oh like only firearms the thing used
for the whole Shinzo Abe situation oh yeah
was tubes and a plank of wood yeah
guys where there's a will there's a way
they'll figure it out people have made firearms in prison
before yeah that's pretty impressive actually
yeah just stuff
they're like very actually quite interesting but
um
oh wow just like yeah just made of stuff
they even kind of look like guns yeah they do
huh 15 deadly improvised prison weapons and tools
yeah how about that
turns out it's a tube and a pokey thing
yeah that's all you really need and like you can make them way nicer
and more advanced obviously but like if people want to make this they're gonna figure it out
people can already make the 3d printing gun community is like
insane the files are out there
if you if you ban them okay people already have them
it's just like the open source AI stuff like it's already out there
you can stop AI from being a thing now you can try to regulate whatever way you want
but it's already out there the 3d printing files for these things
are already out there people can get a huge amount of 3d printers
that are highly repairable that are before this anyways
people can drive them into your state like this will do nothing
I'm not I'm not necessarily you know jumping on a political line
but it's just not going to be effective and again if it's if it's to throw
people I think once you're going that far down the line
it just makes no real impact but I also think that's our last topic
well until after dark yeah Mr. Daniel Bess
are you got any curated merch messages for us? I do I have a few here let's go to
after dark I guess I better move
okay we have our slug for now alright hey Duke
Linus and Dan I managed to snag an aorist master
$290 on Marketplace for $750 Canadian
just wondering the guy I bought it from
repasted it twice gaming it runs at about 80
and the hotspot is 104C oh that
I would probably rip that open and put some
better paste on it or a better application
maybe the cooler isn't tightened down enough that does not that sounds
too hot on the hotspot
I hate to be that guy but I strongly
recommend PTM7950 phase change paste from
LTTStore for this particular application it's not necessarily the best
paste for everything but for a direct dye application it's a really
really good option I would pick up some PTM7950
question for Luke what are your thoughts
on the guy that redesigned the Floatplane application called float native
to offer more functions on iOS
have you tried it? it's cool I have not actually
there's a few yeah
I think projects like that are cool we've worked with some people for projects like that
we've tried to have our API stuff be pretty open and
you know willing to be used for things like that
which is great because we've been struggling on the
app side of things especially for TVs so some people have stepped up
and done things like that people are literally calling it out right now
like Hydrovion is one of them I'm sure I pronounced it wrong sorry
but yeah eventually we'll ideally fix those things and we'll have our own
TV apps and all that jazz but in the meantime yeah check it out if you want
great cool I know someone on my team has tried it
but I haven't personally yet
another one here for Luke I have 10 years experience
I have 10 years of developer experience mostly as a generalist
and I'm now focusing on front end what criteria do you use
to determine to decide whether someone is ready for a
senior front end role senior often means
that you can lead to others it doesn't
necessarily mean that you're a manager but it generally means that you can
mentor or guide or at least help judge
heavily so like if you're doing code reviews you can kind of run them
you can help create tasks for those people
and to be clear this is like very much Luke's perspective I'm sure a lot of organizations
have senior developers that are just like really friggin
good developers that make more money than developers especially when we go for
my perspective a really big one for seniors for me is the ability to take a project
with very little guidance and just run and finish it well
yeah that might not mean the same thing in a different context
and yeah Genesis 89 25 and chat says senior is so
ambiguous in the industry so so is literally so I
completely agree with you and would say the same thing what I'm gonna also throw in there is so is
literally everything else yeah the fact that like
apparently it's a big issue hiring software developers in Canada
because we're not allowed to use the term engineer to describe them and a lot of
American software developers consider themselves software
engineers but engineer is a protected term in Canada
that you have to have specific credential for
and so you can be doing engineering work
but you're not like you can't call yourself an engineer here
it might be specific to BC even I don't even know if it's Canada
wide but it can be like an obstacle to hiring people because they don't want the
Poo stain on their resume of coder
developer they want to be called software engineer
because that's what it would be called anywhere else Conrad that's not
how that works you said you can put
any title in your resume and nobody can question it they can absolutely question it
that's what references are for
I was wondering why Conrad still works here
maybe that's why yeah that might be it for sure
director of when show live chat is what's going on my resume
I like it yeah it occurred to me there are a lot of staff in the chat today and it's totally
inside work hours today you guys
this does not work for anyone like Dan
there's been a few people in chat that have said that their work defines it in
a similar or same way that I did but that is genuinely
not universal there's a few entire
titles like not even just the senior portion but entire titles that like even if
you look up what the definition is a lot of sites will be like
every company just sort of decides it's like what
okay yeah
I'm not sure if you talked about this too much but what was your biggest let down at CES
maybe it's just because I have been so excited
about their winning streak over the last little while but it was AMD for me
I not because they're like a bad company who makes bad products or anything
they just I just wanted I wanted something
to be excited about and rebranded mobile
CPUs where they incrementaled the model number
but didn't actually change the underlying architecture
again making their lineup super confusing for consumers
even more and just
shoving features I don't care about down my throat
it was just such a I would have just
I
would just rather they did nothing like I
if they just showed off some really cool new partner devices and like
new designs around their existing chips like I just
I just didn't really see the point with that said I haven't seen benchmark
results for the 58 50 X3D or whatever it's called
the new one the the 8 core that does up to 5.6 gigahertz
maybe it'll totally change my mind another 400 mega
hertz on that chip I had the new
Strix Halo the new Strix Halo SKUs with the big GPU
but smaller CPU those I was actually was the one thing
that in the video I was excited about and now I'm back to being disappointed because
I've talked to a couple of AMD partners now and they're like yeah these chips don't exist
like functionally speaking because
they use I forget how many
how many bits wide the memory interfaces they need a lot of memory chips
regardless of how much memory capacity is built into them
and they are like big
fat dies their power hungry they there's like a bunch of
things about them that make them not a focus for
AMD and so the allocation of these is just
like functionally nothing so
yeah so it's cool there seem like super cool chips but they're expensive and
even if you can afford them it's gonna be hard to get your hands on
enough of them for partners to meaningfully create cool designs
around them of next
if you had to do the remote PC cable run again
wait oh sorry sorry for now for now maybe that'll change I hope it
changes okay go ahead if you had to do the
remote PC cable run again how would you do it I want to put my
PC in a far closet but stuck on a good way to get
USB with low latency optical Thunderbolt is still the
most accessible way to do it it's really expensive but it costs a fraction of what
it is to do it with that iKron USB
dock that is by far the most reliable performant way that I've found to do
remote USB over fiber but that dock is like
four thousand dollars for two pieces or something like that combined
iKron you said yeah iKron ICRO and it's because they use
FPGAs oh wow they don't have the volume to do
an ASIC
yeah this is probably them okay yeah
they're based in Burnaby interesting yeah there's like there's a weird little
tech hub in Burnaby like Kronos the high-speed camera guys are there
D-Wave is there yeah I knew about D-Wave
yeah so I guess they're just like hyper business focused which makes
sense once you start getting into that pricing yep so it's for like factory
automations and stuff yeah if you need a bullet proof
long distance fiber optic USB thing for like
computer vision on your on your assembly line or something
like that you use this
interesting also Belltrick says optical
USB-C to a USB dock can also work well that's a really good point
you'll have to find a dock and cable combo that cooperates
well with each other I have found that optical USB can
be a little bit of a challenging be a little bit of a challenge but if you find
that works it's a that's a great solution as well it's a good point
Linus did you ever purchase your 5090 or 5080
and if so which model did you go with video soon I can't decide between a 5080
Winforce or Gaming OC or a 5090
Ventus all at MSRP well good news
you won't have to decide between a 5090 and MSRP because that ain't happening
as for whether I did buy one yes I did eventually buy
a Gigabyte one because not because I was particularly interested
in that model but because that was the one that came in stock with
Nick Ploof's pre-order so that whole
I often see comments that are like this is fake
like they're just saying this for content like that whole thing
where he and I were like evaluating 5090s and he was gonna buy one
and then he ultimately decided not to and then I was like well I'll buy you a 5090
if you don't take it it's all real if we don't fake stuff
like can you imagine like being on the internet for 17 years
or however long I've been doing this how quickly my web of lies would
become tangled if I wasn't just
telling you guys what's happening like
so yes I did buy one however I have not
installed it it's still sitting in the box
the good news is that that turned out to be a great investment
oh yeah that's strange I know right?
that's weird but I haven't gotten around to upgrading my PC
so I and I have that
Falcon sent over that frag box for Whalen that
after Whalen I was like this is really cool I should take this home and use it in the theater room
because I don't have a PC in there while I wait to do a theater room build
and I still want to do a theater room build because even though the frag box is really quiet
for a PC it's not as quiet as I would want it to be
like I would want to take one of those racks and turn the whole thing into radiator
and then have like the shelf under it be the PC parts or something like that
so like I have ideas for what I want to do for like a really silent PC in there
but if I want to like I was playing Claire Obscure in the theater the other night
97% of my gaming time for that game
on the the GP win 5 just because it's so convenient
it's just a tentel right? it's wherever I am
but man on the 5090
on that giant screen that 3% of the game that I played there it was glorious
it was incredible yeah I'm gonna finish the game soon
the only reason I haven't finished it is my wife got mad at me
for neglecting her after I came back from CES and playing Claire Obscure for the next two days
so I'm on act 3 and I will hopefully
finish it pretty quick really enjoying it still
couple more for you I have managed to return to playing video games today
AC Odyssey DLC how do you
make yourself get back to something that you enjoy but your head really
lets you make time for them that's a weird thing to call my wife
I'm kidding Yvonne actually generally does not give me
a hard
time he can't hit me he's too far away
I threw something hard enough I'm so sorry
Yvonne generally doesn't give me a hard time about gaming
it was only because I was gone for a week and I kind of ignored her
for a full evening and then part of another one
come on fair enough I got you
and if I hadn't gone to play badminton on the Saturday as well
then I probably would have escaped unscathed but I was
I had an inconsiderate couple of days and so I've been off my game
for about a week now but I'll get back to it
anyway sorry how do you get yourself to get back to something that you enjoy
but you have to schedule it for me the answer is scheduling
I was just going to say it goes in my google calendar and then the other big one
is doing it with people
for instance badminton as much as I love it
it is still exercise it's still hard to peel yourself off the couch to go
and so I sign up for a ladder my first day ladder if I don't show up
and I'm the only one three people are left without someone in their group
so either the staff at smash champs has to run around and try and find someone to join the ladder
last minute or three people don't get to play
neither of those outcomes are something that I want to happen
so I get off my butt, I get dressed and I go to smash
this I've been doing alone because you know Jim Buddies
come and go and I currently don't have any wow Dan called out
it's been a long time since I know
still called out I've had other Jim Buddies come and go
wow and burned called out and burned
you were never that important to him I had fun working on it Dan
but it's been a long time since I've been consistently going to the gym
because of insane amounts of travel
getting sick and the mold remediation stuff at my place
and just like I've had just genuinely no time
but I have to go back and we'll be going back
and for me it's been calendar events so I have it like scheduled
where I'm like okay I know the first ones are going to kind of suck
so I'm going to ease into it a little bit you should join Tuesday baddie, make Harris comes
yeah I probably should you should join Tuesday baddie, it's good
and then if you if something's hurting on the quarter
or gym upstairs, no excuses it's on the calendar, the time is blocked off
there's other work people there that you probably wouldn't mind seeing just throwing it out there
I'll probably have to bail early literally every time
it's a pretty cool work function, we do free badminton every Tuesday night
for LMG employees we have a limited number of spots
because we also reserve some spots for no offense
to most LMG employees but for badminton people
for no reason, that's because I've seen the way that some people's game
has been elevated by having the real badminton people there
and it's huge, Tynan's legitimately pretty good at badminton now
and he came in like I don't think Tynan's watching
total no idea what he's doing
but he's athletic I don't think that would offend him
well yeah, I think he knew but he's athletic, he's
pretty quickly, he's an intense learner he's a studier, he's like
a very curious person and he kind of found
being crap at it to be motivating and not everybody feels that way
but he's like I'm crap at this, I'm now motivated to be better at this
just kind of person from everything I've seen about him and so he's like
pretty good now he'll beat me clean on a smash sometimes
he's solid I'll also try to add
something that's interesting so like this time, something that I planned on doing
is I I had this plan before
because it was already a bit of time before I had been in the gym because of traveling
before the mold remediation thing happened in my place but I bought cleats
I bought my first pair of cleats since high school because I had my high school cleats for a long time
and my idea was that I was going to I wanted to get just more like
specifically running cardio in
I know there's a lot of forms of cardio but I wanted to get running cardio in
to not destroy my knees and want to be on a softer surface so ideally grass
and I was like it would be kind of fun to do like old soccer and football drills
in the grass you just have to move closer and we can go rollerblading anytime you want
I will literally rollerblade anytime you want I've been peer pressuring him to move closer
for like a long time if I do, I will now abuse that
I'll just call you at 3 in the morning and I'll be down
I have gone night rollerblading more times than you would probably think
I love rollerblading it's incredible cardio
it is like S tier cardio it's very good
if you're doing it right I wanted to get back into running
and sprinting specifically sprint on rollerblades
but I wanted to get back into sprinting so I have those and one of my ideas is that
I wanted to trickle in running days and stuff and I had all this prepped
and then didn't get to do it and now I'm going to be inserting that again
so I'm kind of excited to see how that cycle goes so I found a thing to make it
so that it's exciting for me to do it again and then I scheduled it
and that little like wombo combo I find has worked effectively in the past
there's even a hockey cage that is walking distance
in my neighborhood you know you love it
like a roller hockey cage that would be
you know you'd get the cardio in live
and get back to work this is a picture
it says I'll teach you to backflip if you teach me to blade
this is a picture it's you
it's a live slug reaction I don't know what that's in reference to
Dan said it's a meme I don't know what meme it is
because I don't know it I know it
thank god for that
oh man I won't apologize for art
Dan says he won't apologize for art
last one I got for you today nice
nice he's typing
so I think it's really good very good
super good
I just couldn't agree more there are
a terrible mind controlling pit of
loss of attention span and endless amounts of
distraction and having that in classrooms
to extremely susceptible kids is a terrible terrible idea
because one teacher or two teachers or whatever
are not going to be able to properly police the entire classrooms
usage of mobile devices when they can't even see what's happening
on the other side of the screen
reverse the amount of tech use in classes yeah I mean it's like too much right now
because of the phones laptops are also a bit of an issue there
but certain locked down laptops I think could still be a really good idea
I just hope they're funding whatever this is correctly because it's all fine and good to say
well the teachers should do more interactive instruction and they should do this and they should do that
but if you're not actually giving them the resources and giving them the funding
to do it then it's just words the primary thing for me is phones
out of classrooms the rest of it
is honestly not even important enough to be in the same conversation
that's all I got? and you know what else is not in the conversation
any more WAN Show today we'll see you again next week
same bad time, same bad channel bye
don't say bye it's not playing
it's not playing why isn't it playing
oh is it just stopped it's because Sammy said bye
he broke it you broke literally the entire show
you broke the whole show Sammy don't cut the camera
I don't know what to do