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Hello, happy Friday
I hate the voice
Really what are you gonna do watch American Idol like a boomer boom
You prefer Britain's Got Talent
Yeah, probably All right. Oh, how is it after five? Let's just do this thing
Okay, I'm on vacation this week you are I'm not even supposed to be in today
Okay, I'm on vacation today, and I'm not supposed to be in today, and I'm not into oh no, sorry
I said it wrong. I'm not even supposed to be here today That's the line
Did you know that the original ending in clerks has him die
They actually shot that ending pun intended
And then so like the and like the punchline of the entire film is I'm not even supposed to be here today, and he's dead
Yeah, but it was it was apparently did not like screen well
So The original ending of the film where Dante was supposed to be killed the ending was changed making the movie about Dante in his
State the convenience store instead the original ending where Dante dies was never filmed. Oh, apparently I was wrong
Apparently they never filmed it. I could have sworn they did I
Thought I like I mean who knows it could have been like AI or something
but I could have sworn that it was like That I saw a thing of him supposed to die
initially
Smith talks about being convinced to cut the clerks original ending initially the film shows a robber coming to the quick stop and shooting Dante who then dies
Oh Blah blah blah blah
What removing the original ending man, I can't I could have sworn
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, not Nelson Mandela and
the Bernstein Bears and I also saw Shazam or Kazam, whichever one's the fake one
Okay, well anyway I
Wait
Hold on a second. No, I swear to God is a thing. I
Think that I think this is the clip Flashback the original clerk's ending where Dante dies. He originally wrapped up his thing, but this video has been removed. So great
Thanks a lot Rolling Stone for nothing
Unbelievable
Yeah, the internet's not forever clerks original ending okay, hold on
Blah blah blah blah blah something something
Clerks original any yeah, no, they totally shot it Frickin AI Frickin AI lying to me again
Why does AI always lie to me
Unbelievable
Anyway, have you used five yet something something a guy comes in
Sorry, we're closed. He shoots him. He dies. They totally shot it see
You
And something something I think it cuts to him
Say the line Bart I
Thought he says I thought he says it again. I wasn't even supposed to be here today, but no they just show him they just show
I'm like grew some Lee dead
For no reason Oh
Anyway, apparently it's in the DVD special features
Definitely a worse ending
All right, should we do this thing
Wait wait wait wait
Wait what you're defying the laws of physics, sir. Oh
You got to put me in my chair
I
Thank you, thank you
Very nice that's better. Yep much improved live stream
Apparently there's rain in the background Dan
There's no rain What the fuck is a DVD? Yeah, well
Oh, yeah, the AC is on nope, I'd rather be comfortable
Is that okay, can we live with that? Can we roll with that?
My streamer has to be uncomfortable
Uh-huh
It's a worse blu-ray. Yeah, I'd say that's pretty fair
Or better VCD what DVD?
I
All right, there you guys happy now I have no AC
Oh, I got people asking where the heck is scrapyard Wars man first episode is so good like so good
I haven't watched it yet I'm excited. It's so good
Legitimately though, it's legit good
Maybe the best
No, I'm kidding because there's no maybe it's really good
Best episode of scrapyard Wars. Oh
It's good
Breakdown 1923 I have so set a video I made wasn't good
We did an entire video on our worst videos. Yeah, that was a thing
That's that's just that's fake news dude
The fakest of news I
I Hate that fake news means real news that I don't like now
The version with the Jessica Rabbit no no frame. I don't even know what that is
Yeah, she flashes the camera during the car crash scene
There's like an upskirt thing It's like one frame so obviously people found it and the laser disc version is the high fidelity version
Okay, okay
So really really really old gooners really old furry gooners
Yeah, yeah, Luke. Do you want to turn your mic up some more very quiet actually?
I guess she's not she's not a furry, right? Well, I mean I've never seen the frame, so I wouldn't know
Let me check. Oh
Oh my I do I do know that much about it. I don't know if I can trust you
I just I don't I just find stuff like that interesting. I go down rabbit holes. I
Don't want it. I better get a ding for that. I don't want to I better get a ding for that
Like the whole controversy like why this might ding that the whole controversy was like sex in the in the Lion King like clouds and like
We both got dinged
The clouds thing is pretty wild Yeah, like I just I don't I find that kind of stuff interesting like like Hollywood flubs slash
Easter eggs slash things that obviously made it past
I've never felt a need to look at the frame, but apparently it's a thing
Yeah I
Don't forget little mermaid, but wasn't little mermaid. I don't know of a little mermaid controversy. I
mean Like she's got fish parts, right?
You couldn't really have a Jessica Rabbit situation
Apparently there's a there's a penis in the poster
The castles of penis. Oh, I don't know if I buy that. Okay, hold on. I got a look at this now little
Little mermaid castle penis, okay, there's no way. Oh damn
I mean
Yeah, I could definitely I could definitely
Tom man says I know a woman who used to work for Disney in the animation department part of her job
Was to catch little Easter eggs the artists tried to slip it. Oh
Oh, man, do you know about the the vault?
The Disney the Disney vault Disney like smut vault. Oh
If Disney artists draw their own characters like nude or whatever else it's still Disney property
So Disney will like take it and they don't they don't get rid of it
But they like they make it so you can't publish it, but they they keep it and they like store it away
so Disney has like a vault of
Disney smut like official Disney smut
It's like actually a thing
Let me see I
Okay
You
Snopes says the resemblance of that castle tower and a penis was coincidental
If you snuck that in and then got in trouble for it, I'm sure you would say the same thing
That's true, but it's been so long now that I think there would have been time for me to just be like, yeah
Yeah Yeah, I did it
So here's apparently the story first of all the artist who created the video cover art didn't work for Disney itself
Thus, he was neither disgruntled with Disney nor about to be fired
We questioned the artist who also do artwork for the Little Mermaid theatrical advertising pop-ups greeting cards happy meal boxes and CDs
The theatrical posters were done before the original release of the film But the video cover art was not created until a few months before the home video version hit the market
Rushed to complete the video artwork featuring towers that were rather phallic to begin with
The artist hurried through the background detail at about four in the morning and inadvertently drew one spider that bore a rather close resemblance to a penis
The artist himself didn't notice the resemblance until a member of his youth church group heard about the controversy on talk radio and called him at his studio with the news
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What's up everyone and oh welcome to the WAN Show now whoa whoa whoa whoa now hold on slow down slow down the phone there
The president of the United States has called for the immediate resignation of Intel CEO lip butan as a
big fan of Pat Gelsinger At least a fan of Gelsinger's vision for Intel which admittedly did involve losing a lot of money over a period of time to kind of
rebuild their manufacturing
Competitiveness I
What what can I say I? Kind of agree lip butan's vision appears to be to gut the workforce and part out the company piece by piece
Which I'm having a real hard time Getting aligned with so for completely different reasons
We seem to we seem to agree
What else we got? It's been a big week in AI. We're gonna be talking about
GPT-5. Oh my god. There's so much this week. That's right genie 3
Also, also Elon Musk says that X is gonna put ads in Grox chatbot answers meaning that
Advertisers could pay to have their product be the ideal solution that Grox suggests
Wow, we We skipped the part where the product was free, but good and we went straight to the insh*** vacation
Okay, move fast and break everything right good job Silicon Valley. Yeah, what else we got? Yeah, yeah
Speaking of good job Silicon Valley except they're not in Silicon Valley Microsoft thinks it will throw away our keyboards by 2030
Because I don't know. They're dumb also Google claims that AI isn't killing website clicks, but I
Don't know. Maybe they think that because they're dumb. We'll see
What's with you and everything being dumb this week?
It's just like clearly stupid takes but whatever
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Oh Why don't we jump right into our headline topic, which is of course that lip boutan appears to be
wrecking Intel Hold on a second
Why am I not able to find this topic in the dock
Yeah, where did it go? Did I pick a headline topic and then?
No, oh, yeah, no, I found it cool Okay, so it's actually combined with another topic computers may get more expensive due to
100% tariffs being promised on semiconductors and chips also
Intel's new CEO is highly conflicted according to
six-time senior golf winner and President Donald Trump who took a break from golfing to talk about all of this
So first of all he announced that he will impose a 100% tariff on all semiconductors and chips unless the companies make commitments to
Build in the United States at this point. It's not clear
100% how much manufacturing needs to be done on US soil for it to count as building in America
It's also not clear if these things ever have to actually happen
Was it was it Foxconn back in the day during the first administration that broke ground on that that factory that then just
disappeared and Was like a huge mystery
Maybe right, but I mean the the biggest example of this in my opinion is the American telecom thing
Or they're like everyone's gonna get fiber. We're gonna spend billions of dollars on this and then just nothing happened
Was it Foxconn you guys I Don't remember it was yeah, the Fox off sells to sells former factory to mystery buyer
Yeah, okay. Yeah, apparently it was it was Foxconn
Foxconn mostly abandons 10 billion dollar
Wisconsin project. This is from April 2021
So it's unclear to me How much of the you know hundreds of millions of dollars or whatever that these companies commit is
Actually contractually obligated to ever take place like that that Foxconn one was super weird
I forget who it was. I forget if it was the Verge or Wapo or someone basically kind of like went around and
found the people who legitimately like seemed to work for Foxconn in Wisconsin and
They like wouldn't talk to anybody and it was super weird and they had these buildings they were leasing but like
You could look in them and there didn't seem to be anybody in there and
the whole thing was Super super weird like super weird
Toaster pilot says the plan was literally written on a napkin. Yeah, I don't know
There was a there was a photo op and they broke ground and then
The whole thing just seems to have kind of disappeared
Anywho if a company is either building currently or making a commitment to build an America
There will apparently be no tariff and whether or not you have to actually follow through on these commitments
TBD apparently That same day
Donald demanded that the immediate resignation of Intel CEO lip-boot tan calling him
highly conflicted due to his ties to Chinese firms
Since back in April tan invested about 200 million in hundreds of Chinese chip manufacturing
Firms some being tied to the Chinese military tan has not made a comment or spoken about this yet since this public outing by Trump
But the Intel stock did drop about 4% since Trump's posting
our discussion question is
Characteristically Eli, thank you Elijah for this how long before Donald calls you out for being invested in framework and
Esh tech who makes hexo a second American company? Yes
So wouldn't wouldn't that make him happy isn't that literally building in America I
Think framework is I think Carney would need to call you out. I think that's what need to yeah frameworks American too
So I don't know maybe maybe I'm in that maybe I'm in the current US administration's good graces
Yeah, you're just a traitor to Canada not to the state. All right
Sorry my fellow Canadians. It was it was truly nice being a fellow Canadian with you all
Okay
In all seriousness, I do feel like I already kind of covered this when I was just teasing the topic earlier
But while I don't necessarily agree with a lot of the things that the current US administration is doing
As far as I can tell Whether it's the board or Intel's current CEO or both of them
I am super unhappy with what's happening to Intel right now and it feels like
They're base they've basically made the decision and maybe they know things that I don't know
You know, maybe this whole thing is just doomed
It's it's barreling toward a cliff anyway and none of this matters
But it seems like pretty much everything they have done since he took the helm
Instead of being like a okay. This is my Canadian showing here. I guess but it feels like
Gelsinger came in and he was the unpopular general manager who told the fans. Okay. It's a full rebuild
We're we're we're stripping down the team. We're gonna have literally multiple seasons of not making the playoffs
Yes, it's a hockey analogy. Okay, we're gonna have multiple seasons where we don't make the playoffs
We're not even gonna we're not even gonna smell the Stanley Cup for like the next
three to five years But what we're gonna do is we're gonna suck
so bad We're gonna put we're gonna put everything we're gonna put everything into the future product
Where we're going back to to to recruitment and the farm team and you know, whatever
Okay, my analogy is falling apart the point is that
He came in with a plan that was not a fun plan to endure and everyone went okay
Good plan full rebuild because we want to win the cup in five years as opposed to be mediocre forever
Right, we don't want to be the vancouver canucks Okay, we just want to we just want to suck it up
rebuild And get good later and then before he got a chance to even like practically
Nothing practically no products that were actually
Started no projects that were started under pat
Were actually seen through to fruition because he said it's going to take this long
And then they ran out of patience because stock price, I guess and yes, they were losing a lot of money
But that was the plan The plan was that everything that the previous guys did sucked
Which we knew which was why they hired pat
We knew that nothing good was in the pitch it
I mean they needed to pitch it more silicon valley style. Maybe they needed to show themselves as like a pre-revenue
Uh disruption technology company. Yeah
Be like ignore old Intel. This is new Intel. Yeah, currently pre-revenue seeking investment
We're gonna suck really hard And just because you're you might have been a fan of the blue in the past
You're gonna come back to the store and buy Intel again
Dude i'm i'm i'm i'm i'm frustrated though
It's um and so yeah, it just it feels like everything
That lbt has done since he came in is just designed around giving up
Whereas like what I liked about pat's vision was the vision was to fight
And I am you know It's it's so it's so funny to watch the perception of me sort of shift around because people be like line
It's flip-flopping now. He's he's cheering for AMD now. He's cheering for Intel
I am always going to root for the underdog in any given market segment because what I'm always rooting for is healthy
Which is better for the companies because it holds them accountable
Keeps a fire in their belly and it's better for consumers because it means lower prices and better products
And so yeah, am I rooting for Intel right now hard?
And is it good for Intel when they're shedding thousands upon thousands upon thousands of jobs?
I don't know Maybe actually possibly
But when it seems like those jobs are being shed just
Without as far as I can tell a clear plan to to to return to the top. Well, that's that's where I that's where I kind of lose it
Like what was what was one of the most recent developments? They're talking about like spinning off the networking business
I'm sitting here going. I'm like, okay Okay, like spinning spin off
Can be a good thing like I I have personally advocated for NVIDIA spinning off their g-force business
I think it could make a ton of sense for the users of g-force products if if NVIDIA didn't have to have their
Like their their their margins dragged down by this business unit that frankly, you know
No one at the top really cares about anymore You designate people who are supposed to care about it
It has lower margin targets and it can just go back to delighting gamers
Which is what g-force used to fucking do right before they all stopped caring about it completely. Yeah. Um, yeah
So I've advocated for this before But on the Intel side of things it's just like, oh, yeah
Well, we're gonna spin out this we're gonna spin out that and it looks more like they're spinning out things as acquisition targets
And less like they're spinning out business units so that they can overall perform more efficiently as a company. I just
Yeah, light master one I can't believe we're at the point where Intel is the underdog that we need to that we need to root for because otherwise
We're gonna be left with one x86 processor company
Like I don't I'm not a lawyer I don't know all the details around it, but from my understanding neither Intel nor AMD
Has the right to assign their x86 license. So if for whatever reason they are not
leapfrogging each other You just have a frog
It doesn't fucking leap anymore You just have a frog
It just sits on the pedal. It just sits there
Yeah, and like if if you know Intel seems to have some aspirations in the GPU space to go higher and higher
Um AMD doesn't seem to care about their GPU space that much right now because they just can't stop winning on CPU
Um, actually actually dr. Sue did an interview. I think it was earlier this week where she basically said
what everyone knows which is that um the the issue for them on the GPU side is that
They need to make more so maybe she cares it did it legitimately sounded like she cared
I like they need to manufacture more Yeah, she needs to make more money. She's like, yeah, we're bottling that we're bottlenecked by how much we can make right now
And and we want to make more is pretty much what I took away from it So I'm maybe Intel should spin off their foundries and AMD should buy them
No, I think the days of I think the days of
Vertical integration if Intel can't make it work
I don't think it's happening man. I just don't think it's happening
The problem is that we need a second foundry and samsung just doesn't seem to be able to do it
Not at the cutting edge Yeah, because it all just comes down to
tsmc being a monopoly and asml being the monopoly that
tsmc is beholden to yeah
And I have some hope when it comes to fab tools. It sounds like japan has kind of gone like
Like that seems like they're kind of like awake
Seeing how much how much how much money asml is contributing to their national economy
Yeah, and you know what look if there's anyone who was going to kind of figure out the optics and
Figure out cutting edge manufacturing. I'd say if I was going to bet on a horse japan would certainly be one
I'd be strongly considering There's a lot of expertise there
But right now it's not happening and I'm just I'm stressed dude
Because you see what AMD does when they get complacent
We waited two years between thread rippers just now
two years And the top-end chip is five grand
Do you remember first and even to a degree second and third gen Threadripper?
They were like killer value
I remember when the first Intel extreme chip broke a thousand dollars and everyone freaked out dude
AMD was practically giving it away on the street corner back when first gen Threadripper came out
And it's like now they're now they're all like
You know You gotta you gotta take me out first
Buy me some fancy presents You know
Make me feel like your real girlfriend
It's like bro. This is a transaction. I just want my I just want my f***ing CPU. You know
I don't want to treat you nice. Just give me my CPU course
I think I think a lot of that stuff happens in the city that i'm in right now. Um
Sorry you're gonna elaborate or is that it?
Your analogy of uh not wanting to take them out to dinner
Oh, I'm in vegas. Oh
Yeah, okay sure
It seems like the the guests to vegas are really low
Like there's a lot. There's not very many just like
people here Well, you always go during ces though. So that might just be I've heard this is a thing though
I'm like there seems to be less people here than there was the last time I was here for defcon
Um And like it seems like there's probably the same amount or more defcon attendees
But like the the like random people within vegas seems the population seems very low right now
Well, it seems to be a very uh k-like uh economic recovery
Is the is kind of the the term It seems like the higher income folks are feeling real great about how things are going
I mean the stock market's what all-time high gold is near all-time high. I haven't actually paid attention to bitcoin recently. What's that?
Bitcoin to usd Not all-time high, but it's it's basically near all-time high
Like everything's near all-time high. So if you're investor class
You're sitting you're sitting good. You're sitting tight. You're sitting easy
um But as far as my understanding goes there is a big reported drop in attendance to vegas in general
um and you can
feel just walking around that the people working to people
Here to vacation or whatever Um, the ratios are like off
It's it's weird. Uh, like you know
The there's taxi lines outside of the hotels
Um, now there's just like a massive row of taxis and nobody there
Uh, when I went to get picked up from the airport I was waiting for an uber and at least five or six like black cars came by asking if I needed a ride
And then they drove off to other people that were standing near the road No one's ever offered me a ride in vegas
No, like you gotta you have to like you have to like fight someone to
Get a car Is more like and there is there is a
Yeah, there's just there's a lot of people here Working and not an incredible amount of people here, uh attending. It seems
Oh man, the chat is so dude the chat is too real right now
Avon fox says vegas was a magnet for the poor with hopes
No one can afford to go there now even for hope
Yikes Honestly, I think crene nailed it though. Everyone's just sports betting now
Yeah, like why go why go to vegas to do that?
Yeah, when you can do it from the toilet And there was and there was sports betting in vegas before yeah, I mean
But you could you could play blackjack and and slot online before and vegas was still popular
Yeah, that's true And they have arenas here now like they have the vegas gold knights so you can come bet on sports in person
Yeah But it might just be a generational shift
And you know like you're saying k-ship economy the lower end doesn't have as much money to blow on gambling
I know people don't stop spending in some cases. They spend more on entertainment
When the economy is bad because everything sucks. They want to make themselves feel better. So they they
spend money on entertainment But traveling somewhere in order to blow all your money is maybe
One of the first things is maybe one of the first things for some people to go when it comes to entertainment spending
Oh, which which airline just uh did a bunch of layoffs
Hold on who was it? Uh, no
Thought someone did. Oh, no, maybe maybe I was reading about the strike. Oh, yeah spirit spirit says that they're gonna furlough 270 pilots
Uh, I don't know if spirits just doing bad though
So yeah, make make of that make of that what you will uh solid dear says southwest is having a hard time apparently though
um Yeah, I don't know. It's a funny thing because I keep I keep
People seem to be generally afraid to use the r-word
recession
What what?
What Dan what did you think I was gonna say?
My stocks
I gotta sell see people people seem to be afraid to to use the r-word and yet
Everything that I can see is like
Unemployment's incredibly high layoffs are happening all over the place
Are we gonna use the word? We're losing a lot of good jobs and gaining a bunch of junk jobs luxury brands are are downgrading their guidance
Due to softening demand Man, I got dude. Can I just as an aside? Okay, so I was also traveling this week. I actually just got back this morning
Um, I went to Edmonton I it's a funny thing. I never
Really did much travel within canada
But this summer we were looking to go somewhere and we were like, what the heck?
Why don't we road trip and then the smash champs grand opening tournament got
Exima dentally scheduled for the time when we would have been driving so we flew there
But whatever the point is that we decided to go to Edmonton
I I'd never actually been to west Edmonton mall. Did you know that it is the 29th largest mall in the world?
No, yeah, it is it's the 29th largest mall in the world
I feel like that number was a lot higher when I was there probably
I mean it was built in like the 80s and it definitely shows
But you know what for a short trip, right? Like we were only there for three days
um Yeah, living in the mall kind of cool. We stayed in the fantasy land hotel or fantasy suites hotel or something like that
Every floor has a different theme. Uh, so my kids were um
What was it like pirate theme or something like that? I forget they were like treasure cove theme or something and then uh, Yvonne and I were
Um, like tiki theme of some sort Anyway, the point is like they've got all these different kinds of themes and you walk out of your hotel
You don't even walk out of your hotel you walk out from the elevator and you just like walk into the mall
And it's like oh well, I could go I could go grab a yoke and fruze or I could go ice skating
They have a two level go kart track that the water park is also like actually awesome
We spent an entire day at the water park. I have a great slo-mo video
of Yvonne in the tube At the top of uh at the top of the the cyclone. I think it's called
Um, so the one that goes almost a vertical drop and then goes around a thing and then rips back down to the yeah
So I have her like as as the bottom drops out under it's pretty funny. Um
So, yeah, no, I was uh, it was a blast. I forget where I was going with this. What on earth were we talking about again?
Uh, I was in edmonton
I was going somewhere with this
Dan just changed the thing to topic to hold on help me out here guys. Sorry. I'm not helpful for you being in edmonton
Uh, is there? Yeah, yeah, somewhere. Why was I in edmonton? Oh for some reason lice went to edmonton question mark. That's a topic
Uh, oh, yeah, vegas and travel. Oh, yeah. Yeah people in chat called it. You were talking about luxury goods
Oh, yeah. Oh, right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. So I was in so I was basically living in a mall
um, and I don't get it
I don't get it There's entire stores. You don't get literally literally there was this store
I don't even remember the brand maybe maybe Yvonne would remember the brand
But they they literally had like a you know, like a velvet robe
Across the entrance of the store like uh, like uh, like a f*** you
You're probably too poor to come in but if you're not I guess you can ask nicely and we can kind of
Look you up and down and see if you're good enough to get you know what f*** off like
This whole this whole luxury goods thing
I just I can't that's the whole point. I can't stand it luke. I actually can't stand it
I don't mind something expensive. I do think that's a whole I'm literally going to try to sell you fancy stickers for your 70 us
dollar screwdriver later later in this show. I am going to sell those to you
But it's because they have a cost They're the this is it it has a more satisfying ratchet. It's like
I can't tell the difference. They don't have they don't have four thousand dollars worth of leather on that bag
What it's made of the same it's made of the same stupid cow
Like what are we even talking about here? I love the chinese manufacturing companies going on social media and pointing out like by the way we make all these brand stuff
Now there has been some controversy some of that may not entirely be true some of this stuff
Is legitimately like made in italy, however
It is worth noting that just because something is made in italy doesn't necessarily mean that it is made under
good conditions with like artisans making it and sometimes
Both things can be true for the same brand like their their their halo product might actually be like
Artisan crafted by people who handed down the skill of sewing through generations or whatever
Right, there may be a legitimate actual reason or there's like there's like a special cotton that grows in this like one valley
Where the conditions are ideal or you know something and it's like extra specials super awesome or something
Sometimes there is a legitimate sort of
Maybe not a reason but a justification
There's a there's there's a There's a cost associated with the high price. I guess that's what i'm trying to say. There is a cost
associated with making a really nice precision built
tool And backing it with the trust me bro warranty like that is something that has a cost if we had no warranty
We could drop the price tomorrow because we wouldn't have to absorb warranty claims
indefinitely Like there's just there's there's cost of doing business stuff that everybody ultimately the the consumer has to pay for
However, there are also products that you look at and you go
yeah You the designer who worked on this
Doesn't even get a credit on it Right like it's just under the label. So you're not even you're not even like
Buying the work of a designer that you really like or respect or connect with or whatever because I can understand that as well
Like we've had we've had products like we've had shirt designs
For instance that sarah has drawn on stream and that people appreciate the the art of and and
Will pay to support that to me personally that has a value that has a real value
But we're we've got this nameless faceless designer who just like works for
A company and it's clearly mass produced which
Now that I know as much as I know from working with the fine folks at creator warehouse
It's pretty easy for me to spot when something is just
machine mass produced in a in a factory under
Conditions that I don't know what they are but to to produce that volume of it. I can pretty much promise you it isn't you know
Yeah, two families that handed down the skills of how to thread this needle through there for several seven generations or whatever
It probably didn't happen Um, and I just I just don't understand the prices of it
And uh, it's one of those things that I that I go out of my way to to click on in my in my recommendation algorithms
Is I kind of pay attention to the luxury market just because I think it can be a bit of a bellwether for
how things are going and um
It kind of depends on the k one of the things that even luxury consumers well, that's see that's the thing though
Is these luxury brands have not experienced the growth that they have from ultra high net worth individuals
The growth that they've experienced is from Aspirational purchases they call them. So that's people who earn a more modest income but can afford
One they aspire to own like like one piece that they like baby, you know, so it's instead of a an xbox. They buy
Exactly Exactly, uh, or a pair of shoes or a purse or or
Exactly or a pair of sunglasses, you know, whatever it is, right? I didn't say purse just because some of the purses from those brands are like
40 grand, you know 10 20 xboxes maybe more than that
But the the point is just that for them, that's what it is. That's their that's their baby, right? And and
You know, look whatever. I'm personally not my value system. But um, if if you're into that then you're into it
um, and apparently the these aspirational buyers are just
Disappearing not showing up right now. Yeah, yeah, and and and they're feeling super butthurt that since the like, uh,
kind of the covid Spike and the price of everything
Um, there's this cut There was this one article that I was reading where they were looking at like price tracking
For like the same item from these luxury brands like pre covid to now
And some of them like doubled or tripled in price so they really took advantage of that surge in demand
from people being pent up and um, spending more of their disposable income on consumption versus
versus travel you're eating out and um
And now these people are just kind of feeling kind of
peeved that what used to maybe be somewhat within reach as an aspirational item is no longer within reach and they're questioning
Why ever bothered to do this in the first place? Um, I think it's called a a work in so there's uh, you can at walmart like through marketplace you can buy like
Birkin bag of likes that are a fraction of the price and apparently like pretty deez
um It's called working. I think I think it's called a work in bag. W. I. R. K.
Work in bag hold on Uh, yeah, yeah, it's called a work in
And this is like it's it's a whole thing like I just I find the whole space super super fascinating
um I took a work in for a test drive and the results were surprising
Can you can you imagine being able to write this much about a handbag?
Like sometimes we struggle to write this many words about like an entire computer that
has Is manuf has parts in it that are manufactured to such a scale that
people even 10 years ago couldn't possibly have fathomed it like
On an atomic scale and it's you can really say this much about a handbag. Which you know what?
We I just have some learning to do clearly
Um a diplomatic way to say that I I have learning to do I could do better
Anyway, the point is that I went to a mall and I lived there for three days and I
I visited with my brother who moved there a couple years ago
Uh cost of living is like
Markedly better shout out Edmonton. Oh, yeah, if you don't mind living in Edmonton
Um fun fact did not know this he's he's full of little fun facts about Edmonton
Now that he lives there. Um, it is apparently I'm just going based on what my brother said so make of this what you will
but it is apparently the northernmost like
Metropolis like city with over a hundred over a hundred with over a million full-time residents
Which I didn't know I didn't realize how north flipping Edmonton is it's
Very north Yeah, I just I just never really
Thought about it like I obviously look at a map of canada
But part of the problem with looking at canada on a flat map
What's the system called where we where we like flatten it out and excuse it? Oh, yeah
Sorry, what's it called Dan? Of course Dan would know Yeah, something like that the mercantur projection. Anyway, the point is
Looking at canada on a map is really misleading unless you happen to like have a globe and so I just never really like
Thought about it Yeah, Edmonton's like really far north
Yeah, the mall is cool because you can stay indoors and do all those things like that's one of the reasons why that mall
Was like worth building. Oh, dude. I got a weather got a weather advisory on my phone. I was like
Who cares I'm in the mall like that's it's really uh
It's it's basically a shelter. It's it's fascinating the amount of ways that you can kind of like get there because it's connected to things
Yeah, like you said, there's the hotel that's connected to it. They have to have numbered get there without going outside
They have to have numbered entrances. We were at entrance 52
Which gives you some idea how big the mall is that it needs 52 numbered entrances
Yeah, yeah, it's it's It's it's really it's a bastion against the like the the cold storm
That's that's really yeah, that actually makes a ton of sense
Yeah, like there's there's uh, some I think it was already in chat said that he thinks that at one point time
It was number one. He said it was number like 20 something 29 there
I think it was low double digits or high single digits for how big of a mall it was and you think about the population
of Edmonton versus Where these bigger malls are and it like is still quite a standout
Um, oh, yeah, all size per capita. It's it's gotta still gotta be up there, dude
It's gotta be up there and there's a reason for it and the reason is because it's in the you know northern most
Metropolis like you said Yeah, I'm really cool and dude. It was hopping
Like already says it was the biggest until 2004
really So it's just not as it was hopping surge and giant malls since then
I actually did not know that When we were there it even had a shooting range inside it really
I mean, that's that doesn't still there. That doesn't surprise me one bit
Uh, definitely a lot of definitely a lot of gun culture
um, yeah, yeah, my my brother like just moved into a new place
um and Furniture still there furniture was a little on the on the
De-prioritized side. So we we all kind of piled onto the couch
Yvonne and I were there and we had all the kids and we we had lunch at his place
Um, is it very bachelor patty, but he did he did show me his many guns
Yeah, yeah, yeah, he uh, he went out and uh and guns have furniture
Sorry, sorry, what guns have furniture. What was that guns? Don't sit people people sit people or something
Uh, yeah, no, he uh, he he he picked up um, I forget what it's called. I'm as you know
I'm not much of a gun nerd, but he uh, right when they were um, when they were shutting down the
Uh handguns the handguns. Yeah, so he basically just went and bought the first handgun he could find
Did absolutely no research on it whatsoever because he had like two days when he realized that the deadline was coming up
So it was like I just like want a handgun And and like went and got this thing and he showed it to me. I gotta say I'm not a much of a gun nerd
But it was like a like a check
A law enforcement pistol
Super nice Absolutely like a shadow
zero Cz shadow, I wouldn't know
Anyway, it's apparently completely steel It's super heavy even without a without a loaded magazine and it's like super heavy
And dude the slide was some of the most beautiful precision machining. I think I've ever seen
Um, it's like gotta be a shadow
Anyway, anyway, it's uh
A fine, I what I like I said not a gun nerd, but definitely a machining nerd and it is a beautifully
Beautifully machined little piece um
So I congratulated him on his firearm as I think you're supposed to do and then we uh when we walked to the park and hung out
It was good Do you remember if the slide had um
Holes on the side of it or just angled slashes?
dude I
Thought I'd ask yeah, it's like I bet you it's the shadow a bunch of people are saying a 75. It's one of those things shadows are really
It's it's it's like it's like asking me if that hot dude at the pool
You know had a six pack or an eight pack. It's like
I'm not gay
Like uh, I don't like it's totally fine for other people to be into it
I'm just my ring bro. But I just my ring. I just can't tell my ring
I I don't know. I don't know what the characteristics. I'm supposed to be looking for r to know if it was sexually appealing
That's all it's actually a really good. That's actually a really good analogy. Um
Yeah It's pretty good
Couldn't tell you anything about it other than the machining very fine
Because that I know that that I get
um Me already says you don't have to be gay to observe
No, but you would have to tell but he recognized that it was an attractive
Person he just didn't Log all of the individual little details because the analogy is great. I don't know what the important details are
Because I'm not I'm genuinely I would I would actually have to have someone like explain it to me
It's not something that I like Can tell you know like I can and to be clear the question that I asked isn't even an important detail
I just I looked on their website and it was a differentiating factor So I thought I'd ask but but I think the analogy was fantastic. Obviously
It completely makes sense. Um
Okay, should we do a second topic? I can't I can't believe how oh man
I was looking at how few topics we had today and I was like man. It's going to be a really short show
We've been live for almost an hour including pre-show
And we've only done the first topic. We've done one topic. I think now we technically did
Blindest goes to Edmonton Okay. Yeah, cool. Um water park strongly recommend. Uh, the waterslides are great
I think that was the second most fun. I've ever had on a waterslide
On that on that cyclone one super awesome. The like the almost freefall drop is
intense and There um, they call it the typhoon, but I'm sure it has other names
There one where you go down a slide and then you go into like a toilet bowl
Until you like fall down into a deep pool at the bottom. You've been in one like that before they have one at cultus
I've been in that one The one at cultus
Yeah, well the one at cultus blows and and the one at west edmonton mall. So the one at west edmonton mall
They uh, they went in there with some kind of compound in the seams
um for all the cracks So like
That's nice. I was only able to do two Loops around the one at cultus. I went this summer. So I am the same me as when I just went to the mall just now
Um, and I was only able to do two loops around because it was just too painful on my elbows and my heels
And like my shoulder blades to like to get that low friction. Um, yeah at the one at west edmonton mall
I could do three and a half Which was freaking awesome
Like I got so much speed because they went in with some kind of like compound and they they filled in
All the little seams So you could like I was able to like grab the bar and like really rip down there and it didn't hurt at all
Dude, it was freaking awesome Freakin awesome. That's sick. That's cool
Uh, should we talk about ai stuff? I mean, I guess I mean, I could just talk about the water park more if you want
But sure. Yeah, I mean you can you can't sure Let's talk about what's going to take all of our jobs and ruin the world and
Nope, but hey at least at least we have at least we have bunnies on trampolines
Is that in the is that in the No, that was like last week two weeks ago or something. Okay, sure
The sources for this is everything google deep mind open ai mashable enthropic 11 Labs three different tech crunch articles multiple twitter
Threads etc. It's been a massive week for ai announcements google deep mind announced genie three a world model
That can turn a text prompt into a fully interactive 3d environment. You can explore in real time
Compared to genie two. It's more consistent more realistic and interactive for minutes at a time instead of
realistically seconds You can also even revisit locations and see them persist which was a major problem in the past
Think sora, but for navigable worlds not just video
and then lines do you want to bring up the Example of a drone shot generated by vo3 sure. I'll do that. We're just looking at genie two versus genie three right now
Okay So definitely improvements to world persistence
I'd really like to see him turn around though
Yeah, turn around He's really avoiding a lot of turning go on turn around so you can kind of tell and go ahead turn around. I want to see
Wow You gotta get really close to the mic when you say that sorry sorry
Uh, anyway, okay, so sorry that was genie two genie three. I mean, I guess you could kind of run it longer
Okay, so here's a drone thought
A drone shot generated by vo3 being taken over and controlled
In real time or by vo3 thought somewhere drone thought and geez
Okay So here's the generated video
okay And we're gonna take control mid-flight
And then we'll be able to Move it around. I guess that's in. Oh, yeah. No, here we go. Yep. So we're so we're controlling it now
Okay I guess so yeah, I guess yeah, I guess the big difference is in real time. We're able to
Generate this landscape as we go
Flipping wild how for short clips. Anyway, how kind of actually pretty convincing it is
Yeah, at least at x resolution
What else we got uh A deep mind researcher posted a video of people playing around with genie three to which someone asked if that video was created
Using genie three to which the researcher then actually did it. So here. Okay. So here. This is this is pretty funny. Oh, am I not?
Oh, I signed in at some point. So anyway, this is the original video was them just like playing around with genie three on lunch
and then they used genie three to
Here you go to take control of that video
And then walk out the window and some stuff happens basically
Open ai announced their first open weight models since gpt2
GPT os s 120 billion and gpt os s 20 billion are free to download os s is an open source software
They're apache licensed and can run on a single GPU or even a laptop
Despite being open they're trained with many of the same techniques as open ai's proprietary reasoning models
And they're performing surprisingly close to the o series and benchmarks
Um open ai launched gpt 5
its first unified model combining o series reasoning with gpt series speed plus a
Router that chooses between quick or thinking responses benchmarks show small gains in coding science and reduced hallucinations
But a buggy rollout made it seem dumber on day one sparking
Calls to bring back gpt 4. Oh, I didn't even know about that. Yeah, I'm gonna talk about my I think they need bigger gains
I think they need bigger gains in coding based on my experience by the way
I don't know if you saw this on the subreddit, but um There was a reddit post that went kind of viral
Where somebody ran into the exact same thing that I did with chat gpt claiming that it would work on something in the background and then come back
And uh, was that with five though? No, I don't think so
I'm just just making me think of that. But yeah chat gpt do be a liar sometimes
Uh, yeah, but I I have things to should I talk about that now or should we go into the other ones?
You talk about whatever you want loop. You talk about whatever you want a little space here
You can talk whatever you want Uh gpt 5 last night and I ran it against a
test that I've been doing for a while where you know where I take the
I My goodness, um, I I take the wall street journal
Is that it? Yeah, the wall street journal game called letterboxed and I give it the rules. I did this with john with
Uh, john from the lab john doyrin. I did it with chat gpt 4
I think it was with him and I was trying to get it to actually work
And it never did and I've tried this with a few other models not all of them
But a few other models and usually it can't
Actually play the game the game is basically there's four sides to a square
there's three letters on each side and you need to
Use up all of the letters making various words by you by doing as few words as you possibly can
And the problem is you can't go to the same side again
You have to go from different side to different side And it would sometimes like make up letters that weren't there
It would it would most often it would go back to the same side too many times
It would like break the rules and it couldn't actually play the game. Um
I got the standard gbt 5
to be able to beat it It recognized it it attempted to do it and it
Cheated it went to the same side too many times. So I called it out and
It accepted that and then it tried again and failed and gave me an output saying
I failed to do this. This is why it was hard for me to do
Um, and then and then it was like do you want me to keep trying?
And I was like, yeah, keep trying and it tried again and it failed again
Explained why it was hard and explained what it would need to do
And it was like basically I'm gonna have to write a program to do this because
My model has an issue with like location persistence and all this other kind of stuff
So like I am too limited but I can write code
To solve this for you if you want So I said sure and it output a python script that just one shot it
really So that was very interesting and then
I was sitting with feo and he was like, oh try the reasoning model. See what happens there
So I switched from the standard model to the reasoning model and it took a long time
But it just right off the hop one shot it and it actually it solved it
In five words And the challenge was do it in five words or less
It's often in five words, but as I was inputting them to make sure that it worked
I realized that it actually finished on the fourth word
So it found a fifth extra word And then it was like I can probably do better if you want me to try
I called it out and was like you didn't need the fifth word and it was like, yeah
And uh and then in response it was like I think I can do fewer words if you want
And I was like, yeah go for it and it sat for a while and then it did it in three
So that was actually pretty crazy to me. Um
That was pretty nuts, but Isn't that the agi thing being able to improve itself? No, I completely disagree. No, not even a little
The the the big difference um that feo and I were talking about he was proposing that the big difference is that
um It was a change in alignment, which might actually make it hallucinate less, which is interesting because
Alignment you're gonna have to define So basically in the past, um, there was a lot of rules that tried to make it stop
Try to stop it from doing certain things, right?
And you could work around those rules, but a lot of times
It would just kind of like make stuff up to get around it would you would ask it something
You would ask it to go from point a to point b Yeah
And it would like go to many other points in between to try to solve a bunch of problems that you haven't actually really asked for yet
Like it was like over eager almost, um, and it would
It would try to work around what you asked it to do and add a bunch of stuff and it was it kind of went out of scope
Very often it would tangent really hard to go out of scope really often. I'm sure you experienced this doing your coding thing
Yep And now it's a bit more strict. It seems to
Stick closer to what you asked for And when it can't do it the change here the reason why that person is asking is it an agi thing?
The change here is that it's quicker to propose alternatives
right instead of trying to Work around automatically or pretending proposed alternative or pretending or whatever
So like before I couldn't get it to do it because it would just keep breaking the rules
And when I would point out that it broke the rule it would just be like, ah, you're right and then it would break the rule again
Yeah, um, and now instead of just like hammering its face into the wall
It will go. Okay. Yeah, I broke the rules here
You caught me on it and then I broke the rules again caught myself on it
We need another solution. I don't seem to be able to do this. Here's another way that I could approach it
Right writing a program to do it for you um
And then it did it By the way, here's the interesting and probably more useful. Here's the uh, the sort of viral post I found it
Um, this is on r slash chat gpt cod chat gpt lying
Had a very strange interaction over the course of 24 hours in short It strung me along the entire time all while lying about its capabilities and what it was doing
It was to help me write code and generate some assets for a project told me it would take 24 hours to complete
24 hours later I asked for an update It said it was done and would generate a download link no download link worked
After 10 attempts of faulty download links it admitted it never had the capabilities in the first place to create a download link
Furthermore, I asked what had been working on this entire time turns out nothing
And lastly after some back and forth it admitted to lying. I asked why and it essentially said it was to keep me happy
This is a huge problem So yeah, so hopefully as far as my understanding goes it should do less of that
So hopefully they have fixed with fixed this
Yeah, because there's there's been alignment changes So it should help with less of that which which comes across as a hallucination problem because it is
But it's a hallucination problem because they're like incentivizing it to
Make you happy particular thing. Yeah. Yeah, whereas I don't want to be happy. I want
I want the truth. I want the real answer So hopefully it'll be better. It's it is still hallucinating things
Um, I ran it through some some stuff just to try to see if it would screw up and it still absolutely does the hallucination problem
is not solved But in my kind of like
Uh, my version of tea leaf reading. Yeah, it does seem a little bit better at the hallucination stuff
And it seems like probably because of the alignment changes
interesting Yeah
Yeah, it's an interesting interesting time. This is
I'm surprised that the notes in the dock seem pretty tepid on it
Um likely because of the the buggy rollout that they mentioned because most people that I've talked to about it are very impressed
Not necessarily because like, oh my god, it's so capable
um, but because it messes around less
and They're able to get the thing that they actually want out of it
um Without it lying to them quite as much like I really I've been talking about this on wancho for a long time
I really think the biggest problem with all these systems is the
hallucinations and
Even a marginal improvement there, which is like this this absolutely did not solve the problem
But it feels like a marginal improvement and even a marginal improvement there is a pretty big deal
like there's It's it's pretty common in conversations for other people to for people to bring up like oh, yeah, there's a model that's better
It's like it tests better. It is it is realistically a better model
but It hallucinates like crazy and is like difficult to interact with so I don't like using it
Um, and this seems like a good step in the it's
More functional to interact with realm in my opinion
Hey, hold on a second Dan. Just uh, just put a merch message
Just through the bottom here where apparently someone gave you a dual sense controller at ltx
And asked if you've reached a conclusion about it How did you not have a controller all those times when we were playing tape to tape if someone gave you a dual sense?
Uh
I don't think I have a dual sense controller
Uh
Is it is it possible i'm completely missing something here
I vaguely remember this But I don't think I have it. Do you not have it at work. What happened to it work?
Oh, it's probably at work. Okay. Well Cameron wants to know if you like it or hate it
So you should probably take it home and let Cameron know. No, I think the answer would have probably been that I did not like it
All right, because I probably just like
Tried it and was like yep confirmed. I really do not like
When the thumbsticks are both down here and then probably just brought it to work
That's funny because I actually in spite of that. I quite like the dual sense. I
I still use an xbox controller
But I do like the dual sense The the offset analog sticks whatever those are called is just I can't
Nothing else does it for me. Um
I I don't actually technically use an xbox controller at home
Um, but I use a controller that is like very much modeled after an xbox controller. Yeah, and it just
it's It's great. Dan. I can't I I'm remembering more of this now. I did try it. It just I didn't try it
Much for that long I tried it with I think it was fours of five horizons
And then it was just like uh And I tried it for like I think a couple days and then yeah
I I suspect it's at work now because I don't have it at home anymore But I didn't sell it Dan. You gotta you gotta actually read people's messages. Yeah, I'm so sorry about that
Luke if you come to a conclusion on the dual sense controller yet, I gave you what a del tx land
I just want to know if you like it or hate it. I missed that middle Wait for the ps6
Wait what I I misread the comment. I'm so sorry
Okay, apologies. He ran it through chat gpt and he forgot to use five
Okay, yeah Or you're only worth four mini. I'll work on this in the background and I'll get back to you in 24 hours
I got better things to do Sorry about that. Yeah, I do I do remember this now
And I'm fairly certain it was fours horizon five that I used it with and I did try to give it a real shot
But honestly the conclusion was gotten to rather quickly. I just I really don't this position for my hands is not cool
I get it I don't I don't like it
How hard do you think it would be like if okay on a week like this week?
I think Dan can probably reply to everyone directly
But on weeks when we have like a major launch, how hard would it be to train?
Train up a model on like every past WAN Show transcript. I actually tried to do that. Did you yeah, how'd that go?
Uh, not great because you have to design call and response for every single message
But you also need a way to indicate if it's shown curated or archived and it's very difficult to do that
organically No, but I would imagine that would be the human intervention at that point
Yes, and no, I mean we wanted to respond to another button
I don't think we should do this, but I think the the Thing to do could be having a button that is AI response. The problem is that most of you decide
No, most of the responses I mean, yeah, sure
Maybe no it would have to be no it would have to be the AI response goes to a human and then a human decides
If the AI got it right. Yeah, like it could show up. There's probably more work than it could show up at the bottom of my
Tech spot evaluating and yeah It's probably for someone who types as quickly as any one of the three of us
It's probably less work to just type the response at that point. I feel like I feel like
Yeah, AI is in it has this like this sweet spot where your your brain moves faster than your fingers
And then if your fingers move as fast as your brain then it just kind of um
It doesn't really do as much for me. Hey speaking of mice and keyboards being obsolete. Uh, should we move on to
Discussing how mice and keyboards are going away or did you want to finish up the the AI news for the week?
I guess there's still more there, but yeah, I think I think to me personally five is much more interesting than four
Ever was and I know people are talking about would you say it's 25 percent more interesting than four ever was?
Uh Yeah, maybe but I don't think that four was 33 percent more interesting than three so
Okay, so the mouth falls apart a little bit, but hey, that's what we expect from an AI
Yeah, yeah perfect. Um, because four seemed like an improved but kind of samey thing in my opinion. Um
Five is is Yeah, a little bit more shippable. I think uh, anthropic announced cloud opus 4.1 focused on coding research and agentic reasoning
Benchmarks show noticeable improvements and multi file refactoring and pinpoint debugging without adding new bugs and 11 Labs launched
11 music an AI used to generate studio grade music in any style with or without vocals in multiple languages
Nearly all commercial uses are cleared Oh
Good, you can listen to some examples here. Would you like to listen to an example luke?
Yeah, I'll bring it up myself too Okay, so I'm gonna really question the studio quality
Uh Listening to the examples doesn't make me question it any less. Um Dan am I am I cleared for for audio off?
I can't hear myself
Cool well, I've listened to it already so
Weary one Through shadows deep and twilight cold. I bear a longing silent
Oh
Yeah, so
Technically you could make that in the studio
But you wouldn't Yeah, I think that's the problem
Yeah, um, yeah, that's a that's a
Neat Now hear me out. Hear me out. How about yellow bus jam?
Okay, we're going for some Beatles or what?
Not groovier
When the summer song
It's you can something's still wrong you can feel it
I X7 724 and Floatplane chess. Okay, this sucks
Yeah, you guys haven't heard suck yet
The voice is impressive because a lot of ai voices have that problem where they have the like
They're they're hyper monotone about anything because the second they show any inflection or emotion
It could be unaligned and that is a bigger giveaway than them just being hyper monotone
Uh, so it's it's interesting that they actually have some like emotion in the singing that is seemingly pretty good
Twill 923 says a soul song with no soul. Yeah. Yeah, exactly pretty much really
Was notably lacking. Uh, hold on. Who was it? I'm sitting here with a guitar and can't find the beat still. Hold on. Who was this?
Can't can't find it. I mean, okay. So this is fair though. This is fair
Travow says there are plenty of real songs that are way worse though
Oh, it was Gilmore D who said the uh, the the beat's very weird. Can't find can't find the feel
um Yeah, yeah, it's the kind of thing
That I wouldn't notice if I wasn't actively listening if that makes sense
Like if I was in a restaurant and this was on in the background, I wouldn't
I wouldn't notice it I would I wouldn't be like
How dare they like it wouldn't be like that wedding I went to where they played flowers from Miley Cyrus and I was like, wow
wildly inappropriate For like the second song of the dance like that
like It was a human dj literally
I wish they were replaced by an ai at that point because you can't do that
That's just so inappropriate. So it wasn't like that
um Yeah, pug boy says that's an insane choice for a wedding, right?
Anyway, um, so it's it wouldn't drag me out of the event
But it also I wouldn't be like
I'll need to get my sound hound out Shazam that
It like I just wouldn't notice it
Yeah
Um unique username asked why what's wrong with that song?
um And moon mmo says
Because it's about loving yourself because partners suck
Absolutely unhinged choice for a wedding
Uh, yaxter says mother-in-law requested it
Yeah, it's pretty good. That's pretty good. Um
Does this not require a public broadcast license to play in a store or like question mark?
Probably not the thing is that i'm sitting with is there is already
um tons of royalty-free music
Yeah, like real music by real people I'm pretty sure crab rave is like literally one of those
Uh, no, I think there's usage requirements like you have to credit them and stuff
Yeah, we also do have an agreement with monster cat where we just like can use all of their stuff as long as we just credit it
There are vancouver bros
So I don't don't don't i'm i'm i'm actually not sure though now he's looking oh no it is copyrighted
Yeah, it's not royalty-free. Okay. Yeah, so yeah, let's be careful that we can use it. Um, yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah
The interesting because I noticed like a ton of people do
So I thought I thought I knew it was originally copyrighted and we just had an approval
But then I've noticed that it's like universally used now
um But I guess either just people have agreements or
Uh It's fly by night. I could see either one to be honest
Um
Okay, the last bit here is ilan musk says that twitter will put ads in grok's chatbot answers
Meaning that advertisers could pay to have their product be the ideal solution that grok suggests
Talk about saying the quiet part out loud musk says we all knew it was going that direction musk says this will help pay for those expensive gpus
That's a quote. Um while using xai tech to improve ad targeting. It's like
Dude, are you not gonna you're not gonna are you not gonna buy me dinner first?
like Just boom straight to more procreation not enough children
Bend right over because this is how I intend to use my giant GPU farm
powered by natural gas turbines that I didn't get a permit for
Wait, really? I'm just gonna I'm just gonna straight up. I'm gonna straight up. Yep
I'm gonna have people pay to to be the best answer
I mean, it works great for google with their top sponsored search results, right? Let's let's just do that
But ai are you serious right now? You don't even have the top
ai chatbot And you're already trying to be the first one to completely and s**tify. I mean we obviously knew
like amazon was up front about the only reason alexa existing
Being so that she could get to know you and understand what you want to buy
So you could buy it off amazon using alexa
Like that was the only reason alexa ever existed in the first place like amazon was was pretty straightforward about that
and it didn't take off Because people immediately would use whatever didn't shove product down their throat because they're not actually really very interested in that
the only reason anybody cares about chat gpt is because
They think it's giving them like the right answers even though it's trained on a poisoned web that is just full of
Completely corrupted clickbait articles and all that so it's definitely got its own problems
But it isn't just brazenly recommending whoever paid me the most
I mean if you wanted to do that you could just watch tech youtubers
New ideas on how to poison ai as well. That's how you can tell he's not listening to me
there's ones to uh There's ones where you can trap cell phone you can trap it
How is it a cell phone? What me? Oh, I cell phoned myself
Got it right Fair enough. I am I implied that I am bought and paid for
I like I like playing into the conspiracy theories
As if they can afford me
NVIDIA can I mean they can but they won't
cheap
I
I I do think it's interesting because like you have a video coming on
Vibe coding. Yeah
And like I defended the okay, you didn't use a coding specific
Yeah Tool because I I do think the vast majority of people including
You know people that I know and I know this has happened
Just dive right into using chat tb. They don't even know what the other ones are
Um, so I think it is very realistic for a new to these type of systems people
Uh person sorry to use just chat tbt instead of something else. Yeah most well-known thing
Um, but do you think releasing that video after five is out and not having used five?
Is
Good, yeah, I think it's fine because we can acknowledge that I haven't shot any of the a-roll of it
I've only shot the coding challenge And we still haven't had the real developer to my knowledge
Try to try to beat me So like we still have like it's going to be I think it's going to be very clear to people from the way we set up the video
Um and present it that this is a challenge that took place a while ago
And it was with the tools that exist and literally in my screen cap you I dropped down
You can see what models are available to me in the open ai interface and stuff
So it's not like people are going to be like, no, why didn't you click on that one?
Like I clicked on the one that was supposedly better for programming. So like whatever. I don't know
Like I did what I think a normal user would do
Um, yeah, and we have all that we have all that documented that for sure. Yeah, it's all documented
So I'm really not that worried about it and and the point is not necessarily
Like the moment in time the point is asking like a bigger question
And I think that regardless of what model we use we are going to run into bigger answers like
Okay, now what about the maintenance of that code?
Like that's a huge question because I have a working
You know javascript But I still don't know javascript
I haven't actually solved the problem, which is that I don't know how to code
Or script or anything like modern Modern tools will tell you where the error is and generally some information about the error
And then you can feed that error and that information You might have done this in your challenge back to the LLM
The LLM can try to fix things for you and whatnot, but it it does it does definitely become a problem. Yeah
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While the balance isn't perfect the thickness of your finger is a decently large surface
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Yeah, there he goes. Yeah. Yeah, it's not that bad No, the Intel ones were really bad because of the position of the die and the notches in the uh in the substrate and just
Variety of reasons the balance isn't like that bad No, like you you can tell it's not the easiest thing to get spinning on one finger
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I have no idea. I think so. I think already wanted me to show it
So you just unscrew the the thumb mabuber here
Okay, okay, let's do a little something like that Oh
God Oh, yeah, we wanted to do a thing but couldn't this week. Yeah, okay
So you take take that off and then uh, there's two screws on top and then there's oh, okay
Do you have your precision? Yeah, I have a precision kit. Cool. I have I has
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Okay, so there you can see the uh The precision manufactured aluminum frame mabuber that we have and then there
There's our bearing Look at me. I'm bearing eye
Wow I did say earlier. I'm not gay. So I'm now on the bearing strain
Oh
Anyway, you can also see you can also see uh, how we
Made the CPU work as a fidget spinner. It no longer works as a CPU once we're done with it
So that's that's something that happens
Um anywho Dan, where did we leave off again? I was going to read you a merge message
You were going to read me a merge message right right right right right to show how the curation works
That's right. Uh, uh, yes, let's do that while I reassemble
This fidget spinner. Okay That dancing that's right there really really really sounded like uh, uh, like
Helping a small child through something I'm not a child. Don't lose this cruise line. It's not going to
And you're not even my real dad He's just cranky. I think that is juice
He's so cute. He's so good last thing. He does usually need a little snacky before the show
Do you want some tackies? Last thing you need is me on a juice sugar high
Oh, that'd be fun. Uh, you spin me right round dot dll
Linus, why did you go with orange for LTT? And would you ever switch it to blue?
Excited to see y'all at whale land the very very legitimate real actual reason is that
My screwdriver that was gifted to me when I was in high school my snap-on
Ratcheting screwdriver that sort of opened my eyes to the delights of quality tools
was orange and That that using that orange screwdriver that became kind of iconic in the early days of ncix tech tips
Was something that kind of tickled the cameraman
Uh, well, well, he put it in the logo because he thought it was funny that I had like a hundred canadian dollar screwdriver
which to him was ridiculous and I mean, I guess still is but uh
Hey, half a half a million of you can't be can't be that wrong with me, right?
And so he integrated that that orange into the branding of ncix tech tips with the picture of the screwdriver
Since it's such an important tool for for working on pcs
And the rest is kind of history. Uh fun fact by the way, it's not
actually orange
The LTT color Looks orange against most of the backdrops where it appears
Uh, but it's like actually Kind of red or rather no wait no it is orange
But then we had to make it red to look orange in the banner on the forum. Is that right luke?
I'm trying to remember is orange and the land show the land show is definitely not orange. That one's red
When it shows red, yeah The original LTT orange like the screwdriver that you had is actually orange. Oh, no, that's orange
Yeah, the problem is when you place that color of orange against other things that looks bad shift really oddly
So a lot of the places where you see LTT orange. It's not actually LTT orange. It's an orange that is
Uh Hewed so that it looks correct. Um instead of being actually correct, which is weird
I don't know if that's still a thing on the forum But like very early forum days that was a problem we ran into because everyone was saying that it was incorrect
When it actually was correct. It's just with the other colors that were there
It looked really wrong so that we made it incorrect and everyone was like, oh good you fixed it and it's like well
Colors are a hell of a drug sort of by the way Dan, you're not allowed to tell the viewers to calm their tits
I said thine What is happening today settled i am a jimmy Dan's fighting with brice in the Floatplane chat brice is a good person
brice was asking when the Floatplane exclusive with extras for scrapyard wars 10
Part one is coming out it will come out
During this show i will be launching episode one as well as the extras or sorry part one as well as the extras for part one
It's going to be great. It's coming soon. It's coming very soon. Um, what else am i supposed to be doing right now Dan?
Uh doing that announcement. Oh, yes, right
Which one that one or the other one? No, i'm supposed to be doing the cw announcements. Yeah, which you just did
Okay, well i did one of them. I haven't done the other one
So get a grip luke
On this screwdriver
I'm excited about this I need this do you see this do you see this we've got in particular need this we've got grip
specifically screwdriver grip tape
It's designed to give your favorite tool A significant amount of extra grip when you're working under the hood of your car or working on your screwdriver with gloves and
We might have called up our friends at dbrand for a little help
From some old friends. Dun dun dun dun. Dun dun dun. Sorry. Um
Yeah, we didn't we didn't want to talk to them about we all we didn't want to talk to them at all really
But unfortunately, they are annoyingly good at this sort of thing and it's available now at LMG dot gg slash grip tape
So here and we'll bring that up screwdriver grip tape that's right 10 bucks and you get
This you get an extra one as well as the three that you actually need
And we're using it completely wrong in the picture, but don't worry about that because the point is so that you can see it
Oh Yeah, these are for stubbies by the way
So, you know Yep, we have so we have grip tape dutes for full-size drivers as well for stubbies. It works
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Driver each pack includes a set of grip tape for both sizes of screwdriver one for the standard LTT screwdriver and one for the stubby
screwdriver it's a great little add-on if you're looking for a you know a
Gift for the LTT screwdriver enjoyer in your life
Then especially if they use if they use gloves or if they're like a super sweaty type person
It is very grippy So if you are never going to be sweaty and you know, you don't really need to torque anything down
I would say it's not necessary. But if you've ever found yourself slipping
This will do it Uh, when is the bit storage case coming out?
Soon I think people saw a uh, not sure
People saw something i'll say that They saw something
Yeah, what? there was a there was a
Part of a video where something was on a desk Oh, by the way, just let's take a moment to enjoy the team's great photography. Here's charade with his new pride and joy here
With his screwdriver. I love how every shot we have with the screwdriver has us not touching the grip tape. I get it
I understand why we did it this way when he's working on the bike. Is he touching it?
Let's see. Here's ploof. Here's ploof with here's ploof with his purple car
Once again, not touching the grip tape. Dang it people. I understand. I understand why we did it that way
It just triggers me. You should definitely be touching the grip
Uh, willings spy asks how strong is the adhesive the answer is yes
Um, I'll be I'll be real with you guys. There's also an extra one in there
I'll be real with you guys. Uh, this is I think the first product that I've ever been the one to source
um, because I was looking for something that
would actually Not come off the edges of the steps
on my backyard, um like pavers
So I needed I needed grippy grippy
Strips at the ends and I bought like crappy ones on amazon
I bought like a bunch of stuff and it all sucked and finally I found something that like
Would not fucking come off Um, and then we turned it into this product
So we sourced the same stuff that I used on my stairs
And now it's for our screwdriver. Makes sense Yeah, so this is the first time I have ever like directly been in charge of the sourcing
And then we worked with dbrand to get them cut up into stickers because we don't like
Have a process for that. We're not a sticker manufacturer. What the fuck do we know about any of that?
So that's uh, uh, you sell stickers Okay, that's true, but different
And I don't really we don't really sell them. They they're more like
Free with your order and the bonus spin people do buy them though. There's a new pack
People divide them. Oh is the new bonus been packed up. I think people have been mentioning it. They're very excited
Hold on hold on I might be lying. Where do I find them?
I might be lying Maybe I was lied to you would it is set three the latest. Yeah, I think this is it
Holy shit Whole sticker packs are back boys. And this is an absolutely fire pack
Oh, there are some golden ones in here got the tax right off gone fishing
Tech yacht. Oh, I love the tech yacht
The float playing game boy is sick. Yeah, buddy
Yeah, buddy I'm trying to remember if that one has any like foil on it. I don't think so actually
Wait, does it does it have some shine? Oh, I can't remember. I can't remember
I can't remember and I can't tell but yeah, this is an absolutely bomb sticker pack
Freakin love it. Wait, is the transparent screwdriver in it?
Yes, it is. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, there it is Sick. Yeah, absolutely great job
Um, oh, hey speaking of tech yacht
I have a major update on tech plane
The price of this compelling aircraft has been reduced
USD 3.5 million
I got to say you guys this is looking like a pretty strong candidate here
Um user mr underscore jesse over on the subreddit picked up on this
Dude check this out Three and a half million. This is an airbus a320. I think it is
What are we looking at here? Look at this
Main bedroom Got what appears to be like some private meeting rooms here
Um got like a got a lounge area here where you can have what appears to be like
15 20 some odd people
um Got some I don't know fine looking fine looking cockpit
Up in the front where you have all the knobs and dials earlier where like you're not going to remember if it's going to have an eight pack or not
Uh, no, no, I I think I can recognize a sexy plane
I think I think I can I think I can appreciate the fine curves of a plane shaped
airplane Um, so are you into the the three jets or the two jets which which uh
plane type One behind one on each side two on each side
Yeah, two three or four. This is a good question
I got to say I got to say the runway presence the runway presence of a of a falcon
The trijet. I don't mind it. I don't mind it three
I don't I don't mind it a three way two three way jet and then one one behind. Yeah, yeah
Two two on the sides of like one kind of in the middle. I also don't mind being the one in the middle if you know what I'm saying
Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, you know riding middle
Who needs an aisle in the middle with the rows of the seats when you can have the middle, you know what I'm saying know what I'm saying
Yeah, yeah Booger fingers says Linus announcing he's gay again
Anywho, um So, uh, for those of you on the on the subreddit wondering if this is real
I I was genuinely pretty curious about this. I was like, okay
What could possibly be wrong with this thing to make it three and a half million dollars?
I think what happened is they missed a zero I found a listing for another plane that had
4405.5 hours since new
And 2930 landings. So here, let's just key that in
44 5.5 hours since new jet for sale
Because that that seems you know r slash
oddly specific And it appears to be
This one. It's a it's a hawker 4000
which is not That airbus
Um looks like oh man. Where are you? Where is it?
This is stupid. What AI? Why are you so stupid?
Like why do I have to Why do I have to do this? Why do I have to put in the site? See here's the one
there three and a half mil and uh
4405 hours since new 2930 landings. So there
So it looks like this facebook post just had completely the wrong plane
I got to say though once again luke Like are you seeing this? I am
Surprised Because whenever I looked up like how much does a private jet cost here check this out screen is pretty small for me
Whenever I looked up like how much does a private jet cost, you know, I'd get answers like 25 million 50 million dollars or you know, whatever
Yeah, but I mean that's probably new right like this this isn't a new plane. No, this is a this is a 2008
but still But I bet you this was up there when it was new. Oh, I'm I'm sure it was but is it really am I
Incredibly lame because I was actually more interested in what laptop that was
The laptop. Oh Dude that this picture was taken when pc m c i a was a thing buddy
Yeah, look at that one. Oh that one is interesting. You don't like that one with the other like that. Hold on
What are the what are these magazines? Is that ohio magazine?
No, I don't know what this is flying
Have have you seen the latest flying flying
How staged is that out of 10? Okay, sorry, what laptop are we talking about?
I go to a previous photo. This guy. This is the same one see it
What sorry, I have a big delay. Oh, it's the same laptop dude Intel Centrino, baby
Get that Centrino Let's go
How how long has it been since whatever because I guarantee you this picture was actually taken relatively recently
Because the interior of this plane has been redone since 2008. So this is this is a new photo
I just guarantee you that whoever does the staging for these photos
Just didn't bother to replace this laptop for 20 years
Yeah, also this is clearly Photoshopped three like how three audio jacks in the front. How rough is that?
Heck, yeah, dude. I'm liking the audio jacks. You could you could rebind those in software get that good 5.1
Yeah, yep Windows xp, baby
Sick laptop Anyway, I I continue I continue to be surprised
At like because I I guess the cost is actually in the other stuff
Physical left and right buttons. Sorry. I'm just I'm still on the left. I'm still on the laptop
I miss physical left and like the oh man, like my laptop right now is is one big touchpad
You just have to like find it. It doesn't feel right
Bent bob says 2008 plane is it cheap because commonly needed parts are now rare and everyone who has them has a I know what I got
mentality um, and I got to tell you so luk you remember me kind of
Dropping the bombshell that that that original like gamer plane
Was under a million dollars, right? For like an an actual whole-ass jet
Like a jet plane that could like fly across
North America which blew my freaking mind and
Sorry, what was it bob or something like that?
Yeah, bent bob nailed it
absolutely Nailed it a huge part of why an older craft like that would be so cheap
Is because the cost of maintaining it is so much higher than the cost of of acquiring it
that um, it's kind of like, uh, it's kind of like
Overleveraging a house that goes down in value. So you're effectively underwater
Like there reaches a point where they're worth more as as the spare parts
For the other people who are desperately trying to keep their older planes in the air
Then they're worth to try to bring them back up to speed and keep them flying
um, so it's it's a whole thing and I got to tell you as someone who only recently like learned about any of this
I was blown away by how few
Of these planes they actually make So that one was an Astra
Oh, what was it called Astra 100 or something like that?
Oh, I can't I can't remember anymore. Anyway, Gulfstream bought them
So, sorry. Yeah, no, it was an Astra SPX
IAI Astra SPX. So that was before Gulfstream acquired them. Uh, how many produced? Let's see. Let's see if the AI gets this right
A total of 77
IAI Astra SPX's and Gulfstream G100 aircraft were produced
so And that appears to actually be right according to Wikipedia. So that includes both the original Astra
And the G100 which had a wider and longer cabin or revised nose and something something something something something
So that was they produced those back in I think the late 80s or something like that
Don't quote me on that. When when were these actually produced? Yeah. Yeah, manufactured from 1985
to 2017, okay. No, no, no. So that number is only for the original one if I recall correctly
No, look at this total
265 over 30 years
Like they don't they don't make that many of these things
So getting the spare parts for them if the manufacturer is not
Able or willing to make you one
you literally In of paper Rolodex
Could have the name and number of every single person on earth
Who owns another one and who could possibly have that
Water pump or who knows right? Like, I don't know. I don't know what parts
Plains have So, yeah, so a carn evil set our carn evil says that for that hawker 4000 that we were looking at a second ago
Uh, here control shift T. Let's see if I can bring this back up. Yeah, so for this guy
apparently there were Uh
73 made
73 So like you me
and Dan On our fingers and toes
Almost count the number of these planes that there are in the world
Which I don't know just kind of blew my mind. I just so functional. We totally could I I just you're probably right
Yeah, you're you're you're probably right and you talk to like aviation people and they will literally know like how many of them are still in service
Right and they can get retired for any number of reasons if they could crash they could just not be worth it
You you hear about this with cars sometimes too But I've also heard that it's it's sometimes the case where people will literally buy two
And one of them is literally only purchased as a donor plane
Yep Which is wild and sometimes that's not because it's impossible to get a replacement part
But because it's much faster to have one on hand and then you can like
Then take your sweet time going and finding another one for your for your store. So um
As as part of the discussions around that original Astra
Um, I learned of someone who has a fleet of like three or four of them
And a donor plane so that they just like
right Have spares so so they can so they can keep the others going because they're running like a like a charter business of some sort
And I was like that sounds super cool. Um
I Don't think I'm going to be entering the the aircraft charter business anytime soon, but that's like
That's super cool. Um, it's really interesting learning about I never really had an interest
In planes, but the more I learned the more
Interesting it is and I just I I had no idea how small
The entire industry was like tiny
And so I guess it makes sense that these things are 25 30 million dollars brand new
When you look at a product line that they might have over a span of 30 years and go, okay. Yeah, they're going to build
250 of them total
over all of those years But then I guess a huge part of the money is also in the uh, the maintenance and whatnot
CJ Hall says that's a freaking setup four planes and a donor
Yeah, buddy Yeah, buddy
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Oh, let's play a fun game I know
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I'm in the process of digitizing my library and have some that are less than ideal that I'm wanting to take the path and getting them
to digital so I'm not going to answer that question
But what I will answer is that I came across this super cool article that I actually meant to add to the WAN Show
There's a there's a firmware hack that you can do for certain blu-ray drives
Shout out the dedicated people who created this someone's going to link it in the chat because I forget what it's called
But basically there's like a firmware update that you can do to certain blu-ray drives
that just allows them to just Read blu-rays and not worry about encryption or if they're uh
UHD blu-ray or blah blah blah It just reads the bits off the thing and you can make mkv them and it's super super awesome
Uh, somebody remind me of what it's called, but it's super cool
Uh, nobody is telling me. Oh, well
Uh, someone will As always, um
You know, I remind people to be is it libra drive? That might be it. I think that might be it
I don't know. I don't know. I was honestly, I was re I was reading something else
Uh, yeah, a libra drive is a mode of operation of an optical disk drive Where in the data and all the disc can be accessed directly without any restrictions
So best libra drive compatible blu-ray. Oh, okay. Yeah, so go go down the libra drive
Um rabbit hole and you will figure it out
Once you have a libra drive drive theoretically, you can just huck any blu-ray in it and it should be good to go
Arch Linux.org
Thank you, Dan. Thank you for that All right, what are we supposed to be doing right now?
More topics more topics Oh, man. How did we how did we do so few topics already?
This is terrible The show has been on for why does anybody even you're not done the announcements
Why does anybody even watch the show? We don't even we don't even pay attention to what we're supposed to be
We've been live for two hours and we've done like three topics. Wait, sammy's way to go
Sammy specifically asked us to not do the full point announcement after the sponsor spots and then we're going to do it again
Well, we didn't show the uh the short video. Why did you guys do that?
Look what you've done to sammy He's probably crying right now. I have like 30 unread messages from him. Do you really?
I'm just gonna read them later. I think You don't no, I don't know. Okay. No shoot. Do I have any unread messages from him?
That wouldn't even surprise me that much uh
If not, I feel like he Probably gave up on us
I would have that's possible which is
So sad This hilarious. I had no idea that Sebastian was from Edmonton
He says couldn't contribute to your Edmonton conversation because I was in the car
But hearing y'all talk about it was hilarious. Also, you've probably spent more time in west Edmonton mall than me
Even though I was born and raised in Edmonton. That's funny. My brother hadn't been there yet either
It's the classic It's the classic the locals never do their own local things thing
Like I honestly think some of the recent conversation around travel and reducing travel has been really good because
it prompts people to like Do the things that like Yvonne and I used to think like oh, yeah, it's summer
We should go away and then we're like, what the f*** are we doing?
Why would we go anywhere in summer people travel to vancouver in the summer? We should go places in the winter
like Why are we thinking all these years?
Just do things here But you don't think of that traveling to more summary locations than vancouver in the summer kind of sucks like it's death here
Yeah, walk outside and it it actually feels like you're in an oven. It's horrible
I hate it Exactly
I hate that death con is in vegas. I hate that death con is in vegas in the summer
Like let's go to let's yeah, we'll go to vegas in january during ces like way more pleasant time to go
Still hot. Yeah Yeah
Yeah, exactly panblech says it's the worst to ask someone local what there is to visit
I know right Like I have to go look it up when people ask me. Oh, what is there to do in vancouver? I'm gonna go play badlinton at smash champs
Sit in my computer room at home because that's what I do here
I don't know what else there is. Okay. There's the gross grind. There's the gross grind
um Which is not as sexy as it sounds you can't just sit
You can't just see the gross grind. There's there's incredible hiking. I love the gross grind
Yeah, but like it's gross grind is like but it's iconic almost like a
cardio exercise. I mean, uh, yeah
It's good for you. There's there's hiking. That's like you can walk it more
Yeah, you can walk it. I don't like steps. I don't like steps hiking
personally I mean You do have like a mountain raw. You do have the option to get good
Like I I'm just saying I'm just saying that's not doing steps. I'm just saying if you if you fear you know what?
I'm not saying amount of steps that you take you could conquer your fear. You could conquer your fear
It's an option Of what of steps apparently
I'm saying I prefer the more difficult type of hiking. I'm just saying I'm just saying luke take it one step at a time
I'll be there with you. It'll be okay. I'll be there. I'll be there. I'll be there waiting at the top
Go up a step
Okay, well, do we do the full play announcement now or do we do a couple topics? I don't know. We should do it now
We should do it now Okay, guess what folks. It's scrapyard wars day. It's going live
Hold on. I'm just gonna do a thing here real quick Here it is
Scrapyard wars 10 This is hilarious you
And I and this is ridiculous. Um, anyway
Cool, uh public not actors
Release date immediate release. That's right my friends. I'm here to bring you immediate release
It's back. It's bigger than ever Linus and luke phase off to build the ultimate budget home theater gaming setup using just
1400 us dollars
They'll search local listings thrift stores back alleys and online marketplaces to find the best cheap gaming PCs
4k tv's surround sound systems and use components like cpus and gpus
The goal create a fully functional home entertainment center for gaming movie watching all with perfect vibes without breaking the bank
You'll see smart diy solutions and intense tech rivalries as each team fights for the best bang for the buck setup to be crowned victor
Save it's live
I'm excited also also
Each episode will have extras as we have a combined total of 50 hours of footage
Not including screen recording. Um, oh
Sammy says let's also make the behind the scenes slash extras live now. So I guess I will do that
Here's extra. Okay I get it
Uh, okay, so that's public now. I like it. You know what I'll allow it. I'll allow it. Um
What else am I supposed to say about this? While you're there, uh, we're looking for your creative ideas to include in our next Floatplane x creator warehouse merch drop
Which will be a poster leave your comments Um
On the behind the scenes. I guess leave your comments there and we'll gather some idea. Oh, no
No, there's a there's a link We'll gather some ideas to make a sick poster for our Floatplane subs on a stream with sarah featuring sammy
And then the link is here. So you want to go you want to go here? We need your ideas post under Floatplane exclusives
There you go. It's we need your ideas right there. All right, cool. I think that's it for the Floatplane
Announcements all of these are exclusive for subscribers at LMG.gg
Slash Floatplane Um, so yeah, don't worry scrapyard doors will come to youtube, but not yet
So there's going to be early access for the entire scrapyard wars 10. It's going to be great. All right. What are we supposed to be doing now?
Your more topics boom got him
Uh tesla loses 240 million dollars in an autopilot wrongful death case
A florida jury has found tesla partly liable for a 2019 crash involving its autopilot driver assistance system
awarding a total of 242 and a half million in damages
Making this one of the first major legal decisions to go against tesla over its driver assist tech
The crash killed one pedestrian and severely injured another after the driver distracted by his phone while on enhanced autopilot
Assumed the car would stop instead it went through the intersection to over 60 miles an hour
Hit an suv and struck the pedestrians on foot The jury pinned two thirds of the blame on the driver and one third on tesla pointing to
Autopilot being built for highways, but not locked out from other roads. Yep
Musk publicly claiming that autopilot drove better than humans
That is a direct quote and tesla's history of brushing off ntsb safety recommendations after earlier fatal crashes
It is a tough question because the whole better than humans thing could technically still be true
I mean, yeah, if he was on his phone, it might have been maybe two people would have been dead
There are absolutely humans that do this. There are humans that drive through intersections and smack into people. Um, yep
Yeah tesla said it will appeal calling the verdict wrong and warning that it could set back
Industry-wide efforts to deploy lifesaving automation while maintaining that no car then or now could have avoided the crash
Uh legal experts say this could open the floodgates for more lawsuits against tesla and other automakers
Especially as adas features spread
Um, I mean, yeah, you into it. So something's gonna happen. How did this take so long?
Is I think my main discussion question here because the way and I've been saying this for so many years
I don't object to the technology that tesla is building. In fact, it's pretty cool
What I object to is the way that they have marketed it calling it autopilot makes it sound like a lot more than what it actually is
Calling it full self-driving even if it's a beta
Makes it sound a lot more capable than what it actually is and the way that they have deceptively marketed these products
I mean, they're their most recent defense in california
against the the uh, the false advertising claim was
Well, we've been doing it this long and no one said anything they didn't even deny it was false advertising
How has this been excused for so long and why did it take so long for this for this reckoning because it has
significantly caused people to overestimate the capabilities of these systems and in some cases with fatal consequences. I
I just I Like I said, I don't object to the cool tech that tesla is building
but I don't respect the way that they have marketed their products and the way that they have overrepresented them and
actions have consequences This time it's 240 million dollars and there's probably going to be more
You can doja wrench, but can you doja fine says amnetics?
Oh, man, if you had enough doja you could doja fine
I mean, uh, they not wrong
Not wrong if you didn't have a falling out with the uh, with the
Twitter in chief, then you might be able to doja fine
Yeah, I just really don't I don't
Obviously this isn't done yet You know, there's gonna be there's gonna be plenty of uh, uh,
Appealness. I mean, this is probably gonna make it all the way to the supreme court just because of the
I think that tesla's not wrong the the the cooling effect
That this could have on development in the industry Could be very strong
But tesla has nobody to blame for that but themselves for recklessly rolling this out before it was actually ready and recklessly misrepresenting its capabilities
So this is this is one of those things where it's like
I don't know what kind of a parallel can you draw this? I also wouldn't because like they're they're all their market isn't only
um America like they they we talked I think it was last show about
Tesla competing in that automated driving thing that was in china
Um, there's clearly a lot of cars that they sell in china. That's true, but america's a major
world market and Like if you could potentially face a quarter billion dollar fine when something goes wrong
I think I think it might slow down the
roll out I don't think it would slow down the work if that makes sense
I mean the work will only be done if they can roll it out and profit from it though ultimately
Exactly. Um, yeah unique username says yeah, what tesla does is harmful for the entire industry
Harming confidence in tech across brands. I mean, I I hate to even say this
But the closest parallel that I can really think of here is tesla is
the false claimant going
well If you punish me for saying something that wasn't true, then that's going to harm the whole me2 movement
That's tesla's role here is they were a bad faith actor who f*** things up
And then they're sitting here going but think of the consequences
Well, yeah, maybe you should have thought of that
Yeah Because like yeah, that's so good. I want the runes validity. I want the industry to move forward
I want the industry working to build public trust and work with regulatory bodies to roll this out in a responsible way
And you f*** it up
And like I I don't know. I feel like a broken record at this point It's like it's one of those things where I feel like this is going to be yet another
Show where the comments are full of like why it's just hating on Elon Musk
I don't hate the guy, but I can absolutely hate the way that he approached this
And I called it. I was right. I don't know him
I hate a lot of stuff. He's done fair enough. I guess you hate his his public image
I don't even know. I mean, I don't respect it. I'll say that much. Hate's an awful strong word
I don't think I I don't think I can think of too many people that I that I hate like hate is hate's really strong, man
Um, but like I I don't respect
I don't respect thinking that you're above the law and thinking that you're not accountable to anybody
literal lives are at stake And the irresponsible, I mean and I've and I called it so long ago
I was like this will happen and then I don't even I'm not even happy. I'm right
Like this isn't like you getting to be right about the cool stuff that you're always right about this sucks
I don't want to be right about this I don't know if everything that I've I've guessed is cool
Yeah, I know some of the stuff you've been right about is pretty uncool actually
I don't I don't know if you meet someone Sorry, nah, go ahead
I did I did meet someone here who talked about my whole
Bringing it back the mainframe thing Um, I was I was talking about AI stuff for a second. He was talking about how his his company who in this case will remain
Nameless is like doing that whole song and dance right now
um, they're building like Many many many millions of dollars tens maybe hundreds of millions like on-prem investment
Doing on-prem. Yeah, the lamb stuff. It's not necessarily to do training. It's because
Definitely nothing that they do ever can go out of house. Yep, and they're seeing
You know productivity advancements happening in the market and they're not
Getting them. So they're like, okay. This is what we're doing now. Yeah, and he was like, yeah, you called it and I was like, yeah
I think I think we both get to be right on that one, right?
I think that's probably fair. It was a discussion really You remember all the crap that I was taking back when I put like a storage servers on-prem
Like way back. Oh, but like the vault and stuff dude. I took
And now all the creators are doing it. I took so much flak for not using the cloud for everything
And I was like, bro, this is so obvious. I pay for it one time
There's yeah, there's no ingest fees. There's no takeout fees that
I just pay for it one time and all I'm putting on it is crap that I ultimately don't really care about
It's archival. It doesn't really matter and I took so much flak for it, man
Because everyone's going cloud cloud is cyber convergence. This is that love. Oh my god
I just want a nas Calm down
And it seems like it seems like everyone is bringing stuff back prem. I didn't back on prem
I didn't see compute coming though Like I didn't I I saw storage storage was just kind of obvious to me because it's so
Not simple like you you need to be qualified to administer it properly
Obviously, we had those data rod issues with the vault like it's not simple, but it is it's relatively simple
Whereas I think the kinds of deployments that you're talking about are very
Unsimple Especially with modern hardware having the kinds of power and cooling requirements that it does like you have to you have to architect this
Like one of the one of the parts of the discussion was talking about how he's part of the
The new like local infrastructure team right um and how that's like
Not super normal now considering he doesn't actually work at a data center. He works he works at like, you know
The amount of money going into it might make it sound like a data center externally, but it's like really not it's it's a
It's amazing how how not far 10 million dollars goes these days. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, it's it's a very sizable server room
um And and he has like himself and a very small team and they're they're managing it and it's just it's interesting because this is like
How things worked when you and I were getting into the industry and then it kind of stopped being that way everything
It was the the same like nobody got fired for buying IBM. Yes. It was like nobody got fired for moving things to the cloud
um And then now it's it's starting to come back which is which is cool
It's medical is my guess. Uh, I can't say yes or no
It's a good guess though. That is one of the fields that
um Would be doing this type of thing medical legal military. There's plenty of reasons that you would want to have on-prem
Yeah, yeah big massive
big money companies that need to be able to
Move efficiently because everyone does um, and there is no possible chance that the stuff that they're working on
Can go public at any time and then it's like okay. Well, you can't use these public
like Opening i chat bot models then. Um, although, you know, they did just announce that they're open sourcing some stuff
But um, you can't use the the traditional login to the website type system
Um Seth jones bringing us back just a little bit said in Floatplane chat says does the way that tesla over promises their tech at all
Mirror what the current uh ai industry is doing with ai tools?
Will we see or we will see real health impacts as people listen to these ai tools for things like medical care?
Absolutely, and that's one of the reasons that luke and i talk about that so much as well
Because it's not that we are like amazing
soothsayers with incredible crystal balls. It's just that it's so
Bloody obvious and it feels like lawmakers move at
Glacial speed sometimes when it's clear that
Decisive quick action needs to be taken to deal with this stuff
And it's it's so frustrating Um, you know, I don't I don't know. I don't know how to fix that
Like how do you how do you force politicians to pick up a f***ing, you know newspaper?
Right, I can't expect them to read online apparently so like tough because of
How many of them uh
It's not their thing. Um, how do I how do I say this?
um I
A lot of company country leadership all over the place is just like extremely geriatric just to be blunt. Yeah
um, and it's like when when like
Cars becoming a thing was like a big thing in your life. Um, llms might not exactly be top of mind right now
it just When you went to school and used chalk
And paper on slate. Yeah, like
Come on This is this is a big part of why lina con was cool is yeah
Literally just because This is more of the stuff that like she grew up with as
The topical thing at the time I'd like to once again extend an invitation to lina con to come move to canada and be our prime minister
Yeah, i'm just saying i will personally run your campaign to be prime minister of canada
Um, i'll i'll volunteer to be clear. I don't think carney's done anything particularly egregiously offensive to me yet
um I just rather lina
We're on a first name basis. I call her lina. Oh, oh, yeah, okay. Yeah
She called me lina's It's our thing
Um Unify os server enters early access
Ubiquity released unify os server which allows users to self host the entire unify stack on their own hardware
TLDR on the need for this. Um, if you have a unify ecosystem like wireless access points unify cameras
Um access control This allows you to bring your own hardware instead of buying a cloud device or multiple cloud devices for you or your clients
Or not necessarily cloud but like controller devices
Installing and owning a unify controller isn't necessarily new. It's gone through several revisions over the years
They've had dedicated hardware like the cloud key
Which i think was only about a hundred dollars when it was released It had just two gigs of RAM and a slow quad core soc
They also have beefy dedicated hardware like the cloud key enterprise
Uh, the dream machine if i recall correctly can also act as a unify controller
Um, and then it determines like how many unify devices you can manage how powerful your controller is
But this is super cool. Now. You can just like bring your own hardware
Uh, the requirement for the unify os server are a minimum of 20 gigs of free space
um wsl Windows subsystem for Linux v2 or Linux podman 4.3.1 plus
Um, the biggest reason this is exciting is that the old unify software that was available on computers could only host
Unify network to manage things like wi-fi, but this is now adding unify identity which controls user access to buildings and such
Super cool So you could just like have it run in a vm. You could make it super resilient and have failover or high availability or whatever else
You can do anything you can do with a computer that you can administer on prem with your own hardware and that is just
Super cool for a company that still somehow has not transitioned to a subscription model
Not only are they not going subscription model with their networking hardware
But they are even letting you bring some of your own hardware instead of buying it from them as long as you buy
A whole bunch of their other hardware Unify or ubiquity, excuse me has such an enlightened
Approach to how much of their hardware I should be forced to buy the answer is
Zero I should be forced to buy zero of your hardware apple
I already bought your air pods pro 2s. I shouldn't need another apple device to monitor my battery life on it
I already bought the product
So I should have the functionality of it Ubiquity seems to embrace that I buy the access point. It should just work
Now I can bring my own controller hardware because at the end of the day I bought the access point
I am your customer It's super based
And I like it
Good job ubiquity, sorry I sound like angry, but I'm happy
Um, sorry, what's him that he's talking about?
Oh, no never mind. All right Oh
Google claims that AI isn't killing website clicks
But you sure about that? No, David wanted me to do a tim robinson voice. I I forget the voice. I'm sorry
After a report from the Pew Research Center backed up claims from SEO experts that AI summaries are causing a massive reduction
In click-through to websites of nearly 50% via search engines head of google search
Liz Reed responded in a blog post that said
Third-party reports were based on flawed methodologies isolated examples or traffic changes that occurred prior to the rollout of AI features in search
um, she further Actually that total organic click volume from google search to websites has been relatively stable year over year and
Average quick clout click quality has increased
The problem with all of this is that while Pew Research Center not to mention our friends over at, um, oh god, I forget
House fresh. Whoo. That was close Also, I think the anecdotal evidence of most people using google
Yeah, so our so so Pew Research Center and our friends over at house fresh fresh brought the data
But Liz Reed brought Some words
With no data to back this up other than trust me bro, which I think google at this point has kind of
Um, utilized their their full allocation of how many bro trust me as they get
Um, so I'd love to see I'd love to see google actually actually bring the bring the data here
um However, what I will say is that my personal habits
Especially now that I've started using AI a little bit more and had such serious problems with it
Are shifting in a big way. So I will read an AI summary and now
I won't just click through one source. I'll actually click through more than one
Is something that I've noticed myself doing especially over the last couple of weeks now all of a sudden trust stuff less
I trust everything less now Like the AI summary has eroded my trust not only in the AI summary
But even in the sources that it is citing if that makes sense
Yeah, I have no bro trust left luke
So and I don't know if my behavior like is anyone else feeling the same way as anyone I saw Dan nodding
But like is anyone else behaving this way? Yeah, I've been doing that too. Uh, really weird to hear somebody else is doing that too. Yeah
Sometimes I just want the AI summary stuff Sometimes but I don't trust it
Weird why is that the natural progression of this?
Uh, bubbly charizard asks is there a limit on the trust me bro warranties
You have already used a bunch with the single layer backpack issues
I'm not really sure what you mean by Using a bunch. Uh, what we did was we offered a remedy
And then we offered a virtual second layer
Such that if the first layer wears through on one that doesn't have the two layers
Then you contact us and we fix it or get a replacement
That's I'm sorry. I'm just a hundred percent not sure if I understand your question
And then our our our limited lifetime warranty for the backpack is laid out on our site
Um, so yeah, anyone else I literally just don't believe anything made after 2023 says crusty trombone
Is that where we're headed Like dude, I I don't even
I don't even I would occasionally
Very occasionally. Let's say once every six months
I would open up facebook so that I could browse my incredible facebook marketplace algorithm and I would start scrolling
Like the main feed and I'd like watch some videos or something
I straight up don't even bother anymore because I'm so sure that so much of what I'm looking at is fake
Like Is it all just ruined at this point?
The internet is kind of a dumpster fire right now
And I don't think there's going to be much undoing it parallelogram says I've had professors
Who will not allow sources unless they were pre-covid?
Because so many of the newer ones are fake What yeah
No, that actually completely makes sense to me It's um
It's rough. I think you know how the I've mentioned this a couple times on wayne's show, but you know how the
the like crypto bros Um, tried to say that blockchain blockchain was web for
I think ai garbage might be effectively web for because that's sad
Why do you in my opinion? Is this a competition? Are you just trying to find something?
Worst to be right about than what I was right about maybe because like I think you're right, but like
I don't know the actual rules for like how those iterations happen. I don't know that they're really are here's a here's a
colored medal Yeah, yeah, really. Yeah
Because like I I think to me it's always like
How using the internet now feels significantly different?
That's the way that I've seen like web one web two web three
Each one of those line up for me as in the way that I use and interact with the internet significantly changed
around this time And blockchain didn't do almost anything for that for the vast majority of people, but yeah
ai garbage Has massively changed how people interact with the internet and how people perceive the internet. Both of those things have massively changed
Yeah One of our discussion questions on this one is
Uh, what's your favorite alternative search engine present or past?
Uh, uh, web three. Wait, did I skip the number?
Nice, um I have to confess that I didn't really think about how automatically I use google
until I switched over to graphing. Oh, yeah, I skipped one. So sorry. Sorry. Sorry. I meant I went web three not web four my bad
Thanks. Um, it defaults to duck duck go and I have yet to have it be a problem yet
I haven't fully switched over. I haven't put my sim in this phone yet Um, it's it's a bit of a trip man
the default app store him
has Wait, what are you running? Sorry. Is that this many apps graphing? I'm gonna do it for a month
Uh, I had someone in chat earlier asking me about the fold seven. That's next in my queue
I haven't done a phone in a while now. I've got two dumped on me at right at the same time
I might do the fold seven first just because it's a little this is a little less time sensitive, but I'm I'm very intrigued by it
so far there's You have to install Android auto
You can install the google play store and it runs in like a sandbox
Way. Yeah, so that it like controls what it can see, but it doesn't even come with it by default. It's um
I've been very interested in setting up graphing that the main thing that I've been staying away from is
And I'd be interested in if you can get an answer to this being an actual user
Because I don't know anyone directly. It actually uses it day to day
Um, but can you get any form of actual call screening?
um, oh Because I don't think so and I've been wondering if there was
Some because call screening right now as far as my understanding goes for google is processed on their servers
So I was I was wondering like the the thing that terrifies me is how much this might cost
But I was kind of thinking it could be interesting to try to set up like a
An open source bounty for a locally processed call screening app
That's interesting. I think that would be really cool That is something that like if it was an app that existed and it was a paid app. I would buy it a hundred percent
And I would switch over to graphene But the the thing that has been keeping me off of graphene is specifically just call screening not being a thing
There's not just because of like my number having leaked a couple times and stuff
But just there are so many spam calls these days that it would like actually be a significant waste of my time to answer the phone
Every time I get called
Yeah Okay, I added that to my notes having a pixel dialer that that processes
In google's cloud is is at least partially defeating the point of having graphene
Someone's like, oh, you can just download that. I think that's going to be one of my big conclusions, honestly
From this video is that you know
I didn't find I can already tell I I have hardly even set the thing up yet
You can say I've almost nothing installed on it and the second I opened it up
I was like, well, I want google I want the google play store and I went
The conclusion is going to be wow using this is basically the same
Because I'm completely using it wrong. I I so just spoiled the video a little bit
I I I think you should try to go out of your
You know your your box a little bit like what if you it's tough because I have a lot of work
Maps.me that's tough because I have a lot of work to do that. I just like
Someone else do this with you then though because like I think
That's not the graphene experience um
No No, it's not because there are like there are alternative mapping solutions
Which are like local localized maps and like all this other stuff
Yeah, there's one that's like right in in their app store or in the uh, russian
I don't know the other app store that they have it's like local maps. Um, but with that said on a high kids in
Floatplane chat says I mean look at the permissions list for google play services
And then have the satisfaction of being able to deny almost all of them like that's something
I Sometimes because like Android actually has a lot of really great privacy features
That doesn't defeat the purpose then it's just that they don't they don't guide you to use them
Like that's something that I think um that that from my last round on iphone that I came away really positive about was that
um While honestly the iphone doesn't actually
Have a lot of privacy stuff that Android doesn't have what they do is they like put it in your face. They're like
Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. Hey, this is happening. Did you want did you want this to happen, right? Like they actually
Really make a point of prompting you to think about it whereas google doesn't
Not to the same degree um, and so if if it's as simple as you know
Making me think about it a little bit more. Maybe graph, you know S does have a point even for someone like me who
Is it going to stop using otter for meeting transcription and isn't going to stop using teams and isn't going to stop
logging into my corporate G Suite account,
you know, as system-wide as I possibly can so that I have a more seamless experience, right?
Like, I'm gonna do all those things, but hey, at least it's not any worse than it has to be.
Okay. Current year sucks.
What a statement about technology, right? Here, here.
I'm trying this new thing because at least it doesn't have
to be any worse than it has to be.
Oh, that blows.
All right. All right, our next topic is Linus wants to talk
about this Reddit post. Is this normal?
If you're playing console, some games will be discontinued on older platforms?
No, but it will be.
This was posted by Genshin Impact. Notice on the removal and discontinuation of updates
for Genshin Impact on PS4, hashtag Genshin Impact.
Dear traveler, thank you for your continued support and love for Genshin Impact on PS4.
Due to limitations related to hardware performance and platform application size,
we will be discontinuing support and updates for Genshin Impact on PS4 in future versions.
Genshin Impact on PS5 will continue to operate normally and is not affected by the removal
and update discontinuation on PS4. Traveler will still be able to enjoy
the latest content updates on PS5 and other supported platforms.
The Reddit user says, this is my first time encountering a game
being discontinued as I don't use consoles. Should consumers who play on consoles be concerned
about this? Games get discontinued on PC all the time.
No, no, no, no, no, no. But my point is that this is a free to play game
that just like stops working.
This whole, it's, we are finally reaching the end game
for some people of games as a service where they're going, hold on a second.
But this is a game that I always played on this.
And well, I still wanna play it on it.
Well, what happened to the game that I played?
This is what we've been talking about like this whole time
where as soon as the control over the game,
in this case, it's a free to play. So I don't know, I'm not even mad.
Like, yeah, they can do whatever they wanna do with it. At the end of the day, it's up to them
to optimize the size. Well, I mean, there's people that have spent a lot of money
on free to play games. Oh, this is true. This is true. No, this is very true.
And now, I guess. Free to play but extremely monetized. Now I guess you better spend another 500 bucks
on a PlayStation 5 or some other piece of hardware that'll run this game.
And this is what we warned you about.
Is that a crazy part of this? Like if you're a free to play platform,
is this an easy way to get rid of the users that you don't want?
Oh, just like the pores who aren't spending enough money
on your game. Oh, wow.
Because if they have enough money to buy those big packs, they, I'm assuming they sell packs.
I think that's the thing these days. They probably have enough money to buy a new PlayStation.
Man, this is brutal. I mean, to be clear, I'm not, sorry,
I'm not trying to like gloat or anything. I'm not happy about this.
It's just like, this is exactly what we've been talking about
where you put the power in the game publishers' hands
for when and how they wanna support the game
and they decide, hey, we're, you know what?
We're just gonna take our ball and go home.
That's it. You're completely at their mercy. You don't play that game anymore.
I gotta say, it's one of the reasons that I have a really hard time investing myself
in any way, in any kind of live service gaming experience.
Yeah. At the end of the day, next time I log in,
it'll be different. And if I really liked it the way that it was,
I feel like a lot of the toxicity that we see in these communities where they kind of,
anything, something gets buffed, half the community is mad. Something gets nerfed, half the community is mad.
It's like, yeah. One of the problems is-
Just be happy they didn't rip it out of your hands entirely, I guess, is the only consolation I can offer.
One of the problems is even single-player games are getting post-launch balance changes these days,
which I just don't get, but is absolutely a thing.
Like nothing is really safe from the developers continuing to meddle.
Regaitis says, does WoW still have the same hardware requirements as when it was released 20 years ago?
Absolutely not. And this may surprise you,
but I have never subscribed to WoW.
But you could play a privateered pirate server
of the original WoW that does have
the same hardware requirements. With Genshin, you're just kind of like-
Let's go PC gaming. You're just kind of burned, I guess. There are privateer servers from Genshin.
Are there really? Someone mentioned it in a full-plane chat, I had no idea.
Okay, that's pretty cool. Yeah, Elijah makes a good point.
I mean, the game runs on a phone, so from his point of view, this seems like a hundred percent an excuse
to get rid of the pores.
That's like, it's such a cynical take, but I wish I could refute it.
But are they really putting that much server load on?
Just firing up the game on their PlayStation and playing Genshin Impact? Like, it's rendered locally, like what's the load?
They mentioned performance, and I wonder if it's like,
you know, they wanna release some new zone and it's gonna just not function or something.
I have no idea. FogelBR said, this isn't taking your ball and going home.
This is popping the player's ball and walking away. Yeah, yeah, I get it.
I still think, I wouldn't be surprised
if there was at least an undertone of we're not worried about those users though, seriously.
Yeah. Because if you're free to play a game and you have users that never pay for micro transactions,
those users cost you money. I guess that's true.
It doesn't matter if they're only costing you a little bit. They're costing you money.
They're costing you money. There is an aspect to it where they are fodder
for your paid users. They are the minions that your paid users
get to cleave through and look down on. So you want at least some of them,
but you probably don't need that many, you know?
Yeah. Man, that's adding another layer of cynicism to it.
Like having the poorest just be fodder for the pay to wins.
So having them be part of your balanced ecosystem.
That's, dude, that's crazy. That's crazy.
No, I'm certain that's the thing. I used to think about this,
and I would talk about it sometimes with Tarkov too, because Tarkov had a skill system.
It was really weird that a first person shooter game
has skill systems. And the skill system took forever to level up.
Like for reference, like, you know, I played that game a ton.
I don't think I ever actually maxed out a skill.
Right. Because they don't want you to.
Unless you're like a streamer, bro,
and you play this game for your living,
and also you are the advertisement.
So if you have skills, once you get a skill to max level in Tarkov,
not only is it strong, but you unlock unique perks that are like really strong.
Okay. And it gives you a definite actual advantage in the game.
So if all your streamer bros have an advantage in the game,
and also play all the time so they're really good.
Then they make the game look like way cooler and way awesome.
And then you're like, oh, I want to go, you know,
kill all these dudes and get all their gear and be better than everyone as well.
And then you go play and you just get wrecked. Because now you are the cannon fodder for the streamer bros.
It's an interesting concept. There's so much incentive right now
to make your game good for streamers.
I think a lot of people saw this from PUBG.
PUBG had a really, really, really, really strong natural cycle
of intense focus gameplay.
So it was like intense focus looting round
with a little bit of a lull after that where you're probably just running or moving or whatever.
And you can talk to chat, answer some...
Some merch messages. ...message things, thanks, some people, whatever.
And then get into the late game fight and then die.
And then get into the lobby where you can sit back and fully relax and chat with your...
talk with your chat for a while and respond to more subscription stuff.
Then you get into another game and it keeps cycling.
Because if you play a game like...
I don't know. This is a topical game right now, Battlefield.
Battlefield might not be as strong of a streaming game
because it doesn't necessarily have the break cycle that something like a Apex Legends or a PUBG
or whatever else might have. So there's these like, is it a good game for streamers?
Because if it is a good game for streamers, whether or not that translates to the users individually
does mean that you have like the best possible advertising engine for games on your side,
which means you'll probably win regardless.
We see this with Among Us, I think is another good example. Among Us is like an incredibly good streaming game.
Among Us didn't take off for a really long time.
Among Us was not super talked about.
And then it took off with streamers, which made it take off in sales
and now it's like a cultural phenomenon. And then a bunch of games have been made
in the spirit of Among Us, whether or not they're actually like Among Us directly or not.
They've been made with that same type of spirit. And we saw the exact same thing happen with PUBG.
The strongest marketing engine in the world
is going to be able to dictate the type of games that are made
and the ways that they're made and the benefits that certain players may or may not have.
It's a wild world. My laptop's doing that thing again, so give me a sec.
Okay.
There we go. Everything's working again. Way to go, Lenovo.
I love that Among Us is just like...
It was you. It was you I was talking to about this.
When you saw Adam's title
for the YouTube profanity relaxation thing,
you were like, oh, it's like the Blink song. And I was like, no, the origin of that
is actually George Carlin's bit, the seven words you cannot say.
It's been very interesting to watch my kids think that Among Us is like sort of the origin of...
It's like, bro, we used to play Among Us in IRL.
It was called Mafia, you know?
But wasn't Mafia has been off of something else as well?
I think the original might be Secret Hitler or Werewolf.
There's a lot of different variants. It's like card games where there's a lot of variants of it,
which can be frustrating, but can also be really cool.
I played a card game that my grandmother called Hand and Foot,
which I've never been able to figure out what it was.
You had two sets of cards. It's all I remember because I was seven or eight or something.
And so it's really cool that we used to have kind of house rules for things.
And I think that's something that's kind of missing now that everyone just plays Among Us.
But also you can tweak the rule set or whatever.
There might be mods for Among Us. Well, you can even just tweak the rule set.
Wait, DDoC says... Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
You guys actually know this game? Hold on, people actually know Hand and Foot.
Okay, I need someone... Okay, what is it actually called?
Because I've tried to look it up and I've never been able to find the game that I played.
My wife knows that game. Hold on a second.
Did my Google food just suck? Hand and Foot is a card game, a variation of Canasta?
Canasta? Oh!
Hey, thanks AI summary.
Yep.
How to play Hand and Foot? Okay, apparently I just sucked at looking this up before.
I did look it up years and years ago because I was like, oh, I'd love to play that game
that I played when I was a kid. I couldn't find any information on it.
Some people are saying it's a version of Rummy. No, it's a variation of Canasta.
Okay, I'm gonna have to figure out this Canasta thing.
Oh, here's... Okay, here's probably a source
that I could maybe trust
since they have been trusted since 1885, you know.
Wait, they don't even make bicycles!
Liars. This is why they promote this game, though.
Oh, wow. Yep, that's how they getcha.
That's how they getcha. Five to six decks of cards. Okay, all right.
I'm officially adding Play Hand and Foot
to my list of things to do with the kids.
Feel free to pick a topic in the meantime.
Okay.
Whoa, what the heck just happened? There we go.
PSA, Instagram added maps, and your location is on by default.
Perfect. Yesterday, Instagram updated to have a map feature
where you can see events and other stories
from around the world. The problem is this is on by default,
so if you happen to post a story from your house,
it lets all your followers know your exact location.
Holy crap, that is the dumbest thing.
So turn this setting off, either deny Instagram having location access
in your phone settings, or in app, navigate to Story,
Live in Location, and turn Location Sharing to No One.
Elijah said, I saw this story since I was following someone
who had over four million followers and people started sending her screenshots
of her house on Google because she posted a story of her cat.
Wow. Oh, my God.
All right, well, I need to log into my Insta real quick.
At least I don't post on Instagram. Yeah, me neither,
but what if I accidentally did at some point?
Yeah, I'm going to change this right now.
I hope there's some way they can get sued for this.
I doubt it. They should be able to get sued for doting people for that.
Default enabled needs to be something
that is cared about more.
Okay, so what do we do? We go to in app, we navigate to Story,
Live and Location. Oh, my God. How are there this many settings in the Instagram app?
Like, ugh. Also for Meta.
I don't care. I'd never use this app.
I really don't. Oh, okay.
No, just about anything about it. I already had location settings off,
so it didn't work for me anyways. Who can see your content?
Is it, oh, is it account center? Sharing across profiles.
Oh, my God. Account settings. Preferences, subscriptions, personal details.
I can't even find, oh, Story. Story, Live and Location.
Here we go. Here we go. Here we go.
Okay, location sharing. Next. No one.
Cool. Done. All right.
Not sharing location. Nice. Let's go.
Whoa, okay. You can see, okay. This is the dumbest.
Okay. Whoa, I need to message some people.
Quite a few people, actually.
Let's go to an area where I won't have to...
What were you saying earlier? Okay, so these are just country accounts.
So I can show this. Yeah.
But it shows exactly where they were posting from.
Wow. And it's a live map that you can like scroll around on.
I'm not going to move that much. This is insane. Because I found people that I know personally,
and I know where they live, and I'm looking on the map,
and that's where their house is. And there's more than one of them.
Can you guys believe Luke just docs an entire country?
Live on the land show. Actual crime.
Dude, this is crazy. I didn't zoom in far enough, but I might have docs
who is running those country's accounts. Is someone going to have to die
for Meta to take this stuff seriously?
Will they even? This is actually...
This is insane.
Holy crap. I didn't think... It would literally just give you a map
that you can scroll around and see everyone that you're following actively
with their most recent stories. Like, that is wild.
Elijah said, and it was a snap map thing from like 10 years ago.
This is so dumb.
This is actually just very brain dead.
I...
Yeah, like there's a...
There's one that I follow, and I don't know this person,
but the snap map location is like
in suburbia in kind of the middle of nowhere. So it's probably their house.
That's really bad.
Whoa.
In other news, Microsoft thinks we're going to throw away our keyboards
by the year 2030. Microsoft corporate VP of OS security,
David Dwizzle-Yeston, made some bold claims in a video posted
on the Windows YouTube channel about Microsoft's vision of computing in 2030.
TLDR, the future is AI.
Among numerous ideas about how AI agents
will improve OS security and computing in general in the next five years,
Weston claimed that the world of mousing around and typing
will feel as alien as it does to Gen Z
to use MS-DOS, and said that we will have unlimited compute
in the form of quantum. YouTube viewers commenting on the video
tend to take issue with Dwizzle's predictions.
Herman Wooster, 8944 asks, why is the VP of OS security suggesting
such unsecure modes of interaction?
While Susukatashi points out, you've been trying to migrate control panel
to the settings app for 13 years.
This whole interview was,
yeah, it was kind of rough, honestly.
But yeah, I don't really know,
I don't really know how to deal with people
who seem to be under the impression
with people who keep trying to reinvent
the mouse and keyboard.
There isn't a faster, more precise way,
and if there was, we would have thought of it
to point at something and interact with it.
Also, this may be surprising to Mr. Dwizzle-Yeston,
but many people still use the command line
for many things.
Some of them on a daily or even hourly
or minute basis. It can be an incredibly convenient
and fast way of interacting with a PC,
depending on what exactly it is that you're trying to do.
Photo editing? Probably not so much.
Administering a server? Definitely.
Hamnetics says IP config daily.
Yeah, I mean, even a lot more than that, though.
Yeah, P-Connectics says I do command line stuff more now than I did 20 years ago.
Yep. Aslan says shout out FFN peg 100%.
Luke, do you need help?
There are some...
I'm helping some people right now. There are some people that you know
that actively docks their own houses.
Oh. So I'm trying to...
Cool. Not you, but... Right.
Yeah, I don't have any Instagram users in my immediate family.
But yes, I mean, you know what? You go ahead and do what you got to do.
Digital Foundry has gone independent
by buying their brand and video archive from IGN.
After years of shared ownership, which passed from parent company to parent company,
and David has a note here, Eurogamer's parent company Gamers Network
first bought 50% of Digital Foundry, but was then bought by ReadPop
and then IGN's parent company Ziff Davis bought Gamers Network from them.
Ziff Davis has had back-to-back rounds of layoffs and offered the buyback to Leadbetter.
Richard Leadbetter has bought back a majority share of Digital Foundry,
the company he founded around 20 years ago, by adding 25% to the 50% ownership he already had.
The final 25% will be held by investor Rupert Lohman, co-founder of Eurogamer.
Although we don't know the exact cost of the buyback, Leadbetter said,
I think this is pretty much easily the biggest thing I've ever bought,
more than my house. Leadbetter also insists that Digital Foundry
won't see major changes or move to a primarily subscription-based model
and hopes that they can more easily pursue some of the passion projects
that their parent companies have shied away from, like a retro games-focused podcast.
That would be pretty cool. We're huge fans of the painstaking work
that Digital Foundry does, so we're excited to see where they take the company,
and we wish them nothing but success after success. Congrats Richard, Alex, John, Oliver,
and everyone on the team. Our discussion question here is,
what freedoms has being an independent media source
afforded LMG? Ooh, I mean,
many. I think that without
being privately held, not just privately held,
but majority privately held, we would be a
shadow of the company that we are today.
We would not be able to do any of the kind of fun, outlandish
projects that we do, you know, buying fire trucks, moving into the old house
for our April Fools. There's absolutely no way.
There's absolutely no way. Especially the last April Fools one,
where you got that house, there's no way.
There's absolutely no way. Being counters won't allow that kind of thing,
and as much as I love to kind of move on on camera about her
being counter persona, she's a pretty fun loving
being counter, and it really doesn't take that much convincing
for her to kind of let me do
whatever it is that I think is going to ultimately resonate with you,
who I see as our guiding star, right?
And help us kind of build that
relationship in the longer term. There's all kinds of decisions
with respect to, like, sponsored content or
advertiser relationships that we've walked away from that
I don't think a more bean-oriented ownership group
would have allowed or they certainly would have, you know, pushed us
to try to make things work when we just look at it and we just go, yeah, this just doesn't really make sense.
Like, there's times that we could have done it, but it just
it would have sucked, and it would have felt forced, and
you guys wouldn't have liked it, and it wouldn't have been good for the long term, but
I just feel like more numbers-oriented people
have a tendency to be
not even not forward-thinking, but almost more
retrospective. Like, you know, they'll look back
and go, well, that didn't blow us up back then, so it should be
fine, and looking backward is such a
well, for me, it's such a
it's such a flawed perspective
when you're trying to figure out the path forward, because just because the direction
that you're marching in right now has been good up until this time
doesn't mean that it is going to be good in the future, or even that it was ever
good, it just means it might just mean you got away with it, you know, and
I am grateful every day
that we never raised money every day that we
do anything I'm like, man, I am so
glad that I'm not accountable to some bean counter owner
that can tell me how to do my job, because at the end of the day, my
job is to be me and hopefully, you know, enough
of you out there relate to that, that this whole thing
doesn't collapse, right? Like, we are
it's pretty scary
and also humbling to think about that we are one of the
longest standing like influencer
organizations slash people
like I hail from a completely different
era of online influencers before the word even
existed and yeah, you know, I'm not on
multiple eras the rise and fall
of many many, many
KOLs key online influencers, that was the first
term that had influencer in it that I remember
from before that was just like a thing have come
and gone in the time that I've been around and I am
knock on wood here, you know, haven't reached the same heights as
some of those people, you know what they say about the candle that burns
twice as bright, might burn half as long, so mine's been a
slow burn in my weird little technique
here, but I am acutely aware of the fact
that what we do
is
is an alchemical combination
of luck and skill
and the right people and
grit and all of those things that have somehow
managed to carry on for I mean, 17, I think
coming on 18 years now since my first upload, which is
literally my YouTube career
is almost legally an adult now
just kind of mind blowing, you know
it is kind of wild it's been interesting
being in creator conversations like mostly at open source
where
you hear people talk about us, if you know what I mean
like there's very few people still around
that know that we kind of like pioneered
ads, which in a pretty large way
directly or indirectly enabled a lot of creators to do this as a job
to be clear I just want to make the point of clarification
we weren't the first to do the podcast style
ad reads inside our videos but we were
one of the first to do it
with the cutaway to essentially very similar to Google's own
AdSense spots
we were one of the first to do sponsorship reads like that
with the link above the fold and we used to use YouTube's annotations so you could click on it
and interact with it and go to the sponsors website and what we definitely were
for better or for worse was we were one of the first to
explain it to our audience
and explain how the economics of AdSense
were not going to allow the scale that we could
see for this
for this medium to grow and that there would need to be
more to make it sustainable and Google never to this day
still hasn't figured out how to compete with the CPMs
of your own internal sales team selling those
placements somehow and I remember getting into a somewhat
I wouldn't say heated but maybe testy
conversation with someone very high up at Google who works on
the ad product who basically was of the mind
that our idiot advertisers are overpaying for those spots
and I said no your idiot product is not
selling optimally enough because if you guys were getting the same CPMs that I was
I wouldn't even need to do it we agreed to disagree
we agreed to disagree what a terrible take
whoa I would not want a person
with that opinion to lead a team that I was on
well it depends because I don't want to be down on the guy
because honestly the reason I was talking to him in the first place was
he's smart as a f***ing whip like one of the smartest people that I've
ever had the pleasure of speaking with there's a reason that he's in the position
he's in however I think people can
end up in their bubble a little bit and he's in a very data driven bubble
from his perspective and when it comes down to the raw data
he's right they are overpaying because you should only pay a market
rate but from my perspective
what I bring to the conversation is the human element
where people ad buyers do not
buy necessarily only click through in conversion
they care about those things especially a certain kind of buyer cares
about those things but if that was all that mattered nobody would ever buy a Superbowl ad
that would have no value right
some ad buyers it's more about the emotion it's about
building the connection between those brands why do you think AMD
spends as much money as they spend and don't kid yourself
they spend money on AMD ultimate tech upgrade
it's an emotional connection that they want how many Ryzen
CPUs do you think every AMD have a tech upgrade sells
a handful maybe it's not about that
it's about AMD getting to be part of bringing positivity
and being at the center of people's tech lives
that's what it's about that's what they want
and they can't replicate that with just like
with just a data driven ad transaction product
you have to have both
yeah I hope he has some more conversations with you in the future
sorry what I hope he has more conversations with you on that topic
in the future one of the things that I was kind of pitching was
I would love to have more tools for us
selling against their integration tools
yeah which was what I was ultimately
trying to get at was we know our product better than
you ever could and I don't have to prove that
because I already did because I can sell it for more than you can
so either get good or let me be good
but what we're doing right now is I think creating a really
I think it creates a really a fragmented product for the user
I think that for a user who pays for YouTube premium
sponsored is in their content is a really
discombobulating experience and I would love
to streamline the product so that if Google can figure out
how to make their ad service products actually work
and if they can give us the tools where we can feed
our own content into them that could be a net benefit to both sides
and a better experience for the users
who properly sell takeovers as well I think ads would like that
brands would like that like if you could have it
so that the Google ads and the baked in ads on a video
were from the same company yeah I mean Hathos says
trust is important to me the majority of the publications and channels I don't trust their product recommendations
without my own research but with LTT's integrity and my investment as a viewer
product recommendations have weight and that's something that we strive for
and we don't always get it right I want to make that abundantly clear
but what we do do is we take your feedback he said do do
sorry what we do do is we take your feedback
and we bring that back to our business team and we make sure that they are constantly
revising from a category standpoint
from like a business type standpoint
and even down to individual brand standpoint who we're willing to work with
yeah I got him
what do we got next I don't know
Digital Foundry Gabe Newell I thought I said we're not doing this
topic Gabe Newell bought a super yacht manufacturer
should we talk about Microsoft and the keyboards thing why doesn't it
okay hold on a second actually I have a completely almost unrelated
topic of conversation why
does
why does Gabe Newell seem to get a billionaire pass
why does nobody seem to care that he just like floats around on
multiple hundreds of millions of dollars yachts
in times of financial turmoil but we like hate Amazon for doing it
um or Bezos rather specifically
and like okay maybe okay Bezos is probably a bad example
because it's very clear why everyone hates him workers are
like very clearly in an abusive relationship with the company
I think that's honestly probably a lot of it people like the product
people like steam and valve in the games that they make yeah they like the product
but like I mean valve the press around them
the press around Amazon is like the warehouse workers are like horrifically abused
and the drivers are peeing in bottles and they're like running out of people
in the entire country of America that haven't at least worked there once
and would be an eligible person to work there because they've
cycled through so many people okay forget Bezos for a second
what about like Larry Ellison okay nobody likes
nobody likes Oracle impressive horrible thing
but nobody seems to like hate Ellison for having a giant yacht or a plane
or whatever I think a lot of people hate Ellison
I think tons of people hate Ellison I think if you ask the chat right now people really hate Ellison
he's just not as public he like
is not as in people's faces um
people like you know about Oracle hate Ellison for sure okay so hold on chat's got some takes
chat's got some takes um
Hathos says while I personally think billionaires shouldn't exist
Valve has made the lives of consumers better Amazon has made the lives of consumers worse
in many aspects okay I think that's pretty fair Crystal says
cause he just cause Newell doesn't just like actively make things worse
Amazon done that has made the lives of consumers worse I mean they
completely ens**tified online shopping I will never forgive them
honestly compared to where they were I guess
so they ens**tified their own product yeah but I mean okay but we could have had
I mean look Luke you and I have talked about this so much
the Silicon Valley model where you take all of the
you take all the VC funding you use it to push everybody else out
like Uber basically killed taxis
which were their own problem honestly I have no sympathy for the taxi cartels
but they basically like
used free money the free money water hose to wash away the taxis
and then jacked up the rate so now like
so it's so they hurt companies that already existed
that deserve to still be able to or they hurt
or they hurt with Amazon hold on hold on
hold on I'm not done with Amazon though cause what Amazon harmed
the development of a more organic
healthier ecosystem by just hoovering up everything in their path
by not making money for so long and maybe I'm just
I can't bleep it but maybe I'm just a bad word for
approaching this this way but I don't know man I think
Amazon created the opportunity and
people showed up people stopped going to those brick and mortars
but in the early days they were so strongly incentivized
the shipping was free and the product cost the same or less
so they sold us all the writing was aggressively painted
in blood on the walls you can't expect the average consumer
to see that far in the future they're not that smart
Amazon sold us a future Amazon sold us a future
and then rug pulled it that's what people are mad about
they need to get good it was talked about so much
it was in TV news that all the brick and mortars were going to die
this was like an extremely well known thing and people just bought it anyways
they didn't care about the brick and mortars until
Amazon exercised their monopoly
and then they were like oh think about the people that we definitely killed by only buying from Amazon
um I don't know anyways
Amazon is obviously trash
uh breakdown says gamers are incredibly tribalistic and steam is
one of their friendly tribes
so gaben can do no wrong breakdown 1923 says nobody hates jensen
yeah I don't know about that people absolutely don't like jensen
yeah I think there's I think jensen is probably more liked than most of them
you know what I think that's probably fair because the worst thing he seems
to do is make a lot of money which is sort of par for the course
when you're a billionaire it kind of comes with the territory
he lies all the time yeah that's that's true
why do we let him get away with that I guess well we don't but why do people in general
seem to still just kind of love them I guess they just have like NVIDIA and they're 401k
and they're just over it like is it that simple
it's like yeah that guy made me a lot of money is what it is
hmm what else am I looking okay what else we got here
um okay
okay oh people are talking about ellison a lot okay I'm gonna have to scroll for a while to get past that
uh uh tim says we randomly give oprah pass
yeah actually she seems to be kind of hated by a lot of people
yeah she does not have a pass for sure
me too though because like most of the billionaires in the world
we don't even know their names, the only ones we know we just like kind of hate
because they're just in the public eye but there's a lot of billionaires out there
that just kind of quietly make their money and we don't
we don't give them a second thought even with the ones that are public like you pointed out larry
uh he's just not like as public as someone like elon
or basis um so that that's
almost entirely I'm I'm certain why you had that perspective um but there's a ton of them
that just aren't public at all uh
yeah this has generated
a ton of conversation
Sydney broke it says a lot of the oprah hate is because of she platformed a bunch of really awful
stupid people that kind of makes sense but I guess if you had like a daytime
show for that many years would you run out of like credible people to talk
to I mean I never watched oprah interview anyone to be perfectly honest with you so I have no
idea like does she just is she just positive with everybody about everything
like I genuinely don't know I never had a reason to like watch the oprah
win-free show I'm I just know about
you get a car and you get a car like that's all I know
yeah me too I don't necessarily agree you know I don't know the oprah
situation here um and I know some of them are pretty brutal
but I don't necessarily agree with the like if you have a conversation with someone
you automatically condone everything that they say I don't think if you interview someone
you automatically condone everything they say um
yeah no they're making they're making some pretty good arguments in the chat they're making some pretty
I don't know the ones they're talking about just like people like long-term promotion
of people like who literally have gone on the record saying they
promoted quack medicine and no one should believe them anyway and then they just keep doing
it yeah like people like that and they and if she platforms that person multiple
times and it becomes a thing I just think the like having a conversation
one time not necessarily automatically agreeing with everything but having a conversation
one time should not be frowned upon 100
percent I think it's there's some amount of like if you're a content creator and
I'm including TV show host I'm including literally anyone in the public
I really if you write things say things
host things whatever that's public your life
is probably far more recorded than anyone else's and if you took that same
level of spy glass and looked at like
any one of your random buddies
they probably have said and done dumb things as well
so I think like the oh this one person said something that the internet disagreed
with one time therefore if you even look in their direction you are automatically evil
is like a stupid thing that we need to stop doing that's fair
whatever so then I should get a gamer
yacht is that the correct conclusion
you should get a game or something game or something how about a yacht
sorry I sorry I pronounced it wrong the first time
if it's a yacht and you exclusively call it a yacht then I
think so okay we should
Dan can you let the chat vote gamer jet or gamer yacht
gamer ski are we assuming same price
um gamer ski lift would be pretty sick
gamer ski lift where would it go like where would we put it
you should work with like Seymour
if you could mount compute on the bottom
of the seat and then you can have arms like
those airplane arms where the screen comes up
so you could like game on your way up the mountain we could get like oh we could
use like adaptive controllers to make like special big glove compatible controllers
so you don't have to take your gloves off yeah
obviously yeah pancrat says you could just mount everything
to the safety bar so you just pull it down
yeah we could go between the buildings
yeah the screens could go on the safety bar
how much does a ski lift cost I bet there's one on facebook marketplace
ski lift we're gonna find out
no way I can buy a ski lift chair
that's it though okay I don't know if gaming ski lift is gonna happen boys
I don't think it's gonna happen I wonder if infinite cables could send
a giant wire rope the reason why I said under the seat
is because it would be more weather protected mmm that makes sense
having all of your stuff on the bars
well I don't think you'd have the compute there but you could have the
but you could have the monitor there yeah they make weatherproof displays
that should be fine
you won't get 100% away from the weather regardless but
the sea would be the best where's my pull at
it's about 20 to 80 on the yacht to
where is it why don't I see it you might have to refresh
poles aren't 100% functional at the moment ah okay so sorry which one's winning
works on my machine the yacht by 80%
the yacht's winning I'm gonna be cancelled
I'm so sorry you can't do the yacht now
because Dan called it a yacht the rule was it had to be
referred to as Yacht in other news
NVIDIA published a blog post on August 5th clearing up some concerns that people had
about NVIDIA having kill switches or built-in controls to brick GPUs
they said NVIDIA GPUs do not
and should not have kill switches and backdoors alright
I mean that should probably be the bare minimum okay
at least they've taken a stand here in other news tiktok
has a better app tiktok pro
I have no idea so I literally made this a topic
because I didn't understand the article that I read about it so hopefully Elijah has done a great job
of summarizing it tiktok is launching a new app in Germany, Portugal and Spain
called tiktok pro
it features a new sunshine program
that allows users to contribute and support
charitable organizations users earn virtual
sunshine by inviting other users to join and interact
with the charity related content they can
then use this virtual sunshine on a charity and then tiktok
will donate toward that charity
yeah the look on your face says it all you have like a canyon running between
your eyes and that was I'm pretty sure what I looked like
you're a wizard Harry other than that
trying to figure out if you're talking about the furrow or the actual dent in my head at this point
both other than that tiktok pro is the exact same
the content is the same and even the
overall experience is the same mostly the same according to
social media today is missing live stream
live streaming the tiktok shop and ads
what is it
when I heard tiktok pro I assumed it was like I assumed it was a paid version
of the app because of some of the new laws in Europe
around like minors and or data collection
or something but then it
what is this am I missing something here
yeah Elijah's point here is actually really good
why do you think tiktok is doing this because on the surface there seems like there's no downside
as a user no ads no tiktok shop being shoved in your face
and it maintains all the core tiktok features other than live streams
but as far as my understanding goes tiktok live streams just generally kind of suck anyways
so I don't understand it
seems weird okay so we have
no additional clarity no neat
let's go to after dark okay
did we only ever do one merge message earlier oh lordy there were a lot of
merge messages today oh yeah
cool I did not expect people to be so excited about stickers
some people bought stuff just for the stickers dbrands onto something
oh and also the stickers there's two lots of stickers
lots of people buy stickers no
incorrect false fake news
my friends call me fake news just means it's real news
but it inconveniences me the meaning of fake news has changed
that sounds like fake news it's not fake news then
it's just it's just lies
yeah
shall we begin I can make you purple
oh my god and
I just took lift down there we go
sorry yeah I'm in vegas right now and
I just looked outside to be like is there purple lights because I don't know I'm in vegas I can just open the Windows more
and there's like
horrifically drawn animated cats dancing on the sphere
life is strange
yeah I'm assuming it's a DEF CON
vegas moment makes sense
anyways now you're purple oh wow nice
I like it whoa okay it's wait what
no no no Dan's tuning it purple loot
hello big fan of your videos can you show us the cats
oh my god oh it just changed
wow tees if they come back then yeah I'll do it
alright let's get through some of these hello big fan of your videos
a large popular topic has always been how much VRAM or RAM is required
in current year but what about storage what would that be the minimum amount of storage
to have in 2025 the reason that we don't really
the reason we don't provide like a minimum amount of storage
recommendation is that it is completely up to you the user
to decide realistically for my work laptop I could probably get by with like
256 gigs I don't store anything on it
I don't keep games on it I don't keep media on it because
all of the resources that I need to access are either in the cloud or on
a local network attached storage device
but that answer is not going to be good for anyone who does
say for example local video editing on their
on their laptop so only you can answer the question of
how much storage you need and there's no point in me even
guessing because I have absolutely no way of knowing how much
you know anime pornography
you need in your life
you watch the WAN Show so I assume a lot that's why we have a six petabyte
nas at work yeah it's for all of that
man of culture hello LDL any upcoming games that you're highly
anticipating any old game that you want to get people to play at whale land
oh oh this is interesting
carpool launched got it got it
got it
why are you like this
so my bud tom arnold
who goes by the developer handle
tom arnold emailed the other night
letting us know that carpool
has finally launched it's a
it's a parking violation
car chompin harpoonin
racin chaos
simulation engine we played it at the whale land
at LTX when it was still in very very much in early
development and he he messaged the other day to say
it's now finally here
harpoon you're a tow truck with a harpoon
and you collect the things
I actually haven't played it in quite a while these molten
meteors are new so that seems like an exciting new mechanic
for me to get to try out anyway it's finally up
there is shared and split screen pvp
and I'm always a big fan of fun new couch multiplayer games
and it's super affordable
it's like four US dollars so basically if you want to try it out
the time that I've spent with it has been pretty fun but like I said
it's been a while I've been waiting for it to be finished and it just came out yesterday
so check it out carpool on steam
tom used to work with me at NCIX he did the silly
style banner imagery for our weekly sale among
many many many other things we worked together pretty closely
actually on a number of projects that I just wouldn't have been able to bring to life
without his his humor and his
art style so yeah super cool guy so if you guys want to check out carpoon
now is as good a time as any oh there's one user review
look at this user review already posted on the 8th of August
a pleasant solo or co-op game harpoon and real mechanics are gratifying
sound effects are rich soundtrack is catchy and fitting of the aesthetic
at the time of launch 100% of the game's achievement list is swift and fun to discover
which could make for a speedrun challenge the animations and circumstances these vehicles go through to be destroyed
are delightfully hilarious could make for an all ages and prompt to local
remote experience within a competitive environment or as an icebreaker there you go
thanks cloud and collected all right
up next hey dlo what is the most flagrant example
of corruption you've seen in vancouver in montreal a developer offered me
$10,000 cash to get help circulating a pro development
petition with elections upcoming
oh man I don't know there's so much vancouver's money laundering
so it's gonna be hard to see there was a lot of
a former employee here I remember them telling me
that a former provincial level politician
used to walk into the shop that his mom worked at
and very regularly
by copious amounts of designer goods in cash
very regularly I think that's about as brazen
and out in the open
as corruption can be because why on earth would you have that kind of
cash
hey dlo what are your thoughts on wealth flexing
youtubers and their influence on kids do you worry kids will have an unrealistic
expectation about money and how hard it is to get certain things
I gotta be honest with you I sometimes worry about like wealthy
influencers own kids having unrealistic expectations about
money and how hard it is to get certain things we regularly
will talk to our kids about how like mom and dad ran
a successful company you aren't
necessarily getting everything that we
acquired as an inheritance you need to have realistic expectations
or you need to be ready to absolutely work your heini off if you want to
if you want to achieve the kind of success that you might want to achieve
I don't let my kids watch
like flexi youtubers they're not on tiktok
they're not on instagram they're not on facebook
and I do worry
a lot that not just this
generation I think our generation got kind of f***ed up
to be perfectly blunt with you I mean like I remember
the first time somebody pointed out to me that none of the
friends have jobs that could possibly sustain the gigantic apartments
they live in in new york and I was like oh yeah I guess that wouldn't make
for like very good tv though little did they know that bobsburgers
could be a thing family about a
show about a scrappy family that doesn't have a lot of money
just making things work
yeah yeah I mean
I think Chandler was the only one though right
because Chandler was weird because I think he was in like a microsoft ad at one point in time
no that was just as an actor was there a friends microsoft ad
no no no I think there was a friends based microsoft ad
well Jennifer Aniston and Matthew Perry were in an ad I think
no like I think it was friends based I think it means like in
the show oh maybe yeah maybe
so like that could kind of make sense but like just because you work in tv doesn't mean you're rich
like the king of the hill reboot the actor who played
John Redcorn the father of Bobby
Hill's best friend the biological father he was
recently tragically murdered actually
which is a real downer so he actually is in the reboot but
he won't live to see it air which is super sad
anyway I was I was reading about it because I saw the reboot was happening and then
I saw that he passed and then I was looking at the circumstances he was like living in poverty
so just because you're like you know a tv
actor or voice actor or whatever like it's you read
tons of stories about people who even had like regular parts on
major shows like what was it the comic book store owner in Big Bang
series like had to have a day job like very deep into the shows
run or something like that I don't don't quote me on that one
exactly why my aunt started pal
to support like artists who were probably
both very famous and also very poor
yeah Porto says part of Joey's plot was that he didn't have any money
and then yeah the economics of Seinfeld are
super don't make any sense either like Jerry I think
as he becomes a very successful comedian in the show he becomes successful later on I think
right but like everyone else like what did they even do how did they have it
how did Kramer have money
the law set says people confuse fame with wealth yeah 100%
I gotta show you this so I looked up the thing that I was talking about and I was
I was wrong it was a Windows 95
video guide featuring Jennifer Aniston and Matthew Perry yeah
oh okay so it was what I said though yeah yeah okay
then I want to show you this I'm gonna send it to Dan so you can put it up on screen
sure look at this actually insane ad that I just got on YouTube
uh oh
I screenshot the whole thing but it's the
one on the right above the TED talk with Linus Torwald's
the one on the right and we know when you can see it
Kling AI unlocking AI's
infinite possibilities so we have look at what they're suggesting
two people and so we want to ship them
but like think about how that why
why do we need to do this you have a picture of yourself and you have a picture of like some girl
or some boy or whatever and you can turn that
into a video of them making out yeah
this generation is like screwed
because think about being in high school like do you remember
when we were in high school how quickly like this this guy
made out with this girl would spread like wildfire without a video
yeah
yeah it's also just like you know
this is going to happen to celebrities oh yeah there will be weird fan
stuff or fan
video thick like
that is a and that ad is being served by YouTube
can we not yeah
speaking of YouTube hold on no I'm not done yet
we will dwell no I do
yes whether it's real or not real
and the blurred lines that are now existing between
like the real influencer lifestyles and the fake ones
or it's rather it's becoming easier to blur those lines like think about
super famous examples of this like Tai Lopez right
with his garage full of knowledge right
how much easier it's going to be
to be a Jones that other people are going to aspire to keep up with
and that other people are going to compare themselves to and look at their own lives
and try to figure out you know why it is that
they're not able to live that lifestyle I mean the reality of it is
that very few people drive a Lamborghini
like I don't remember the last time I saw one on the road because I don't live
in like Dubai like can you remember the last time
you saw Lambo on the road in Langley I don't know it happens
but it also feels like they're like passing through or honestly
if I see one in Langley I assume you rented it but like so much of what you see exactly
is like rented or borrowed
or I mean now AI generated
like I just yeah I
worry that just like our generation was set up for disappointment I worry
the next generation is going to be set up for even more disappointment
and I had some people and not
not just in lifestyle but also in
like with the lifestyle you can afford but also the lifestyle you will have socially
because of the interactions you'll have with AI or not going to line up with the interactions
you have with people I had some people chatting
with chatting in the chat about like chatting in the chat
imagine them doing that I had some people in the chat talking about like you know how am I
contributing to this and I got to be honest with you guys I
I don't think that my lifestyle is super
like realistic at this point
I don't know what you want me to do about it though
because either I don't talk about it at all
which I don't think you guys want me to like not talk about my tech projects anymore
I don't think so or like I fake it
like I don't yeah I don't know I don't know what to tell you
yeah
like one of the things I want to do soon is set up the theater room
for better voice comms for mixed in person couch
and remote couch gaming I don't think that's a relatable problem
but we're going to end up using some fun tools
that people could have their own uses for
it's going to be a really cool payoff where we can have like 10 gamers some of which are in person
and some of which are all participating in like couch gaming together
like it's going to be cool but like yeah no it's not
it's not relatable at all
yeah sorry once again I'm having a problem on my end
okay that explains it
just keep doing your stupid house tours
yeah so yeah hathos I guess maybe that's the balance
is not showing off luxury for the sake of it
I mean one of the big things for me that I think is so cool about technology
is that the 115 inch TV
that I'm unboxing today
give it 5 years maybe 10 years maybe it'll be a long time
but give it some period of time and that will make its way eventually
if the trajectories continue to hold at least you know kind of
it will be attainable right
that's something that I think is really cool and it's been hard to watch it be less true
like it used to be that I could make a video about a cutting edge GPU and like
in a few years you know any just about anyone
could get their hands on one you know second hand or whatever or the new generation
you know mainstream would be on par with the old top of the line one just
uh oh are we dead?
wrong button Luke they said
there was a cloudflare blip
earlier but it was a long time ago
it's apparently going in and out alright sick
back new f okay let's do
our next merge message sure thing
good evening gentlemen Luke have you seen peko the parrot on youtube
I believe this is the one that likes the LTT
screwdriver is that right or is that a different parrot there's many
parrots that like our screwdriver uh no there's just many
parrots on youtube nope I think it's
a different oh wait no I can't I can't find the one that
that likes the LTT screwdriver oh crap
uh oh hold the PC hold on
is it which one's that okay I swear
I swear there's like I don't think this is the one there's a famous parrot
okay yeah I'm not imagining this where is it no you're not I don't remember
the name of that one there's a famous parrot that like used our screwdriver
or something Apollo that's right
it's Apollo okay no I don't know Paco the parrot I know Apollo
yeah okay do you do you know Paco the parrot
uh yeah is okay if there is good content
I probably found it and shared it with me at some time okay is Paco a quality
parrot like I believe if we're talking about the same
Paco Paco was a was a rescue
or is yeah a rescue and like beat correction
and medical stuff
thing which is cool oh yeah wow look at this look at this beak boys
yeah whoopsie doodles
okay guys stop just posting
okay uh why did you curate this Dan
which one the next one uh no the parrot one
because it was a question for Luke oh okay
should I not do that no no you do whatever oops I'm sorry
hi LLND back end of the Hacksmith EDC knife
and wondered how it feels to have your bits be considered in their design
are you aware of other products that have considered LTT in their design
I'm not aware of any others but I'm also not aware of too many other creators
that we we vibe with as as tight as
James over at the Hacksmith um
super cool guy and this looks like an absolutely incredible product he's
been he's been in my DMs throughout
the development of this thing showing me some of the absolutely incredible work
that they've done I think it just went live on Kickstarter like
a few days ago or something like that um
this is a great time if if there was someone who's
Kickstarter I would be willing to promote it would be Hacksmith they will
absolutely deliver this if their history is anything to go by
and it looks freaking incredible
um just just built
absolutely here's a question built why
why Kickstarter I don't know I legitimately
don't know I think I think Kickstarter
does offer 100% deals to um
maybe not 100% but they offer extremely high revenue share
deals from my understanding I this is all hearsay I I have had no dealings
with Kickstarter whatsoever James hasn't talked to me about why Kickstarter at all I
was gonna ask him I haven't yet I don't know anything I'm coming from a place of
complete ignorance
Luke also doesn't know um I have no idea so my
understanding is that for marketing for Kickstarter the platform
they will offer better revenue shares to products that
um can get the word out more about Kickstarter
where there's a mutual marketing benefit for the platform itself and then
they also Kickstarter is a powerful tool
we've never used it but there have been times that I've been tempted just to
just in many cases to figure out like what the market is for a product so
you just like don't bother making it if not enough people uh if not enough people back
it and then you just refund the money and you're like okay well I'm glad we found that out before we invested in
a bunch of molds and tooling right um so I would
guess just that they're helping amplify it and he's uh and they're getting
some benefit from the association with tax myth and um
I wouldn't be for me to share but I think he's doing pretty good
on the project so far so um
well I mean you can see on Kickstarter that it's raised four and a half million
oh yeah they're okay it's public then cool yep yeah so I think he's doing pretty
good yep yeah he's doing okay yeah I guess I'm in America right now so
mine's joining USD yep and uh and and look
look at it go so uh yeah that makes that makes sense why the pledge goal
is so weird the pledged goal was 181,957
dollars and what the heck and it's because Hacksmith's Canadian you better
believe it buddy I'm not your buddy friend
I honestly this might be uh a weird
take I don't know I am interested in this I would wait for
it to not be on Kickstarter anymore and like
for myself because I might look into getting one of these um I would
wait for it to not be I'm going to wait for it to not be on Kickstarter anymore and my reason for it
is just because I don't want to deal with the like
like one of my problems with Kickstarter forever is
you have to interact on Kickstarter to get your
thing right um so like I'm going to have to come back
to Kickstarter at some point to get it
and I might just like not do that
you could just tell us you're traumatized by the coal bar like you could just say that
I am you could just say that it doesn't update you don't have to say
so many words you could just say because I'm traumatized from
the coal bar I will go look here I'm going to go look one last time
oh no there's no way there's no way there's an update sir
there's absolutely no way I agree but I'm going to go just for the
people because they asked me all the time and it's been
well over a year I think I think it's been a long time
so this is this is the this is the last one if there's no update we're never looking
again oh
all right we're logging in oh my god okay Dan do you want to do
a merge message in the meantime then sure sending this oh no like I'm logged in now
oh okay all right
because I did okay I got to scroll
and find it scroll past
all these unsuccessful projects
okay here it is coal bar hammer updates
2022 yeah never happened I'm sorry buddy
okay Dan hit me sending this from a plane
love the WAN backpack more than worth its price nice
when designing the backpack what made you go with the internal bottle holder I was skeptical at first but it works
great um I had lost water
bottles before having an external holder
basically I used my
backpack for travel a lot and wanted to continue to use it for travel
and as you probably noticed if you really stuff it
the og backpack is exactly the size that will like fit under the chair in front
of you on most flights although things have gotten smaller since we released it
um and I wanted some flights it doesn't work for yeah there's a handful of
like small regional airlines that have planes seats that are so low profile
that it's hard to get it under um wow
and so I wanted something that was self contained and nothing could fall out of
and everything zipped up and could be stuffed under somewhere and nothing would fall out
down there and then you have to like bend down under the seat and try and dig stuff out
um that was the original that was the original goal and then also
if you like didn't want to use that it would just kind of tuck out of the way and you could just
stuff it full of stuff um we got so much feedback that people liked exterior water
bottle holders that we did do an exterior bottle holder on the commuter um but that's
again you know a product that has a very different intent it's more of like a
like a day-to-day commuter it's not for like tucking into
places and not wanting to worry about things falling out of it
where in the world did you get this many e-waste CPUs any other recycled products
that you can tease uh we actually have to buy them
which is I mean
people use them to recover the minerals right so that's part of why
it's so expensive the good news though is none of this prevents anybody in the
future from harvesting the gold from it we're just temporarily
turning it from garbage into a toy
for a while you know that's the most we can
that's the most we can really do you know I think that's the goal
for all of us hmm hmm pan crats
turning it into a toy get it yeah thanks pan crats
love all you guys at Linus how do you go about teaching other parents
about online safety and parental controls I don't
dude I ain't nobody got time for that
have you ever tried to okay okay first of all first of all okay
first of all
have you ever met another parent who wants to be told how
to parent even when they ask
for advice have you ever met anyone who really wanted to hear it
alright mr. tech tips
you mentioned you bought five pairs of badminton shoes since they're
all essentially consumables do you wear them evenly or to use one until it's
worn out before using a new pair yes I've tried it both ways I think
I I think I like the I generally have two active ones
is what I've kind of settled on so that gives me
that allows me to take two pairs of shoes to like a tournament because nothing
nothing destroys your feet faster than just being in like soggy
shoes like all day so it gives me one to change into
but if I have too many active ones then
then basically I have them out in the open turning the souls
hard like with UV exposure more than I have to so I should only have
like two active at a time is what I've settled on
hi lld I got a zen book duo for university after your first
look video it's great my question did anyone actually daily drive the 2024
model and why is there no full review for the 2024 or
2025 versions it's a good question I mean I think
part of it is that it's so oh
there's such iterative
progress in the laptop space that the excitement level
around a 2025 model
if anyone even knows what it is like a zen book
duo that's the the dual screen one if I recall correctly
like it's ASUS's product lineup is so
wide that you have no hope of covering all of them and then the refreshes
are so many so confusingly named that it's hard
to it's hard to know what to cover and it's hard for people to
know what they even feel like clicking on that's where I think something like the Labs
is realistically the right answer where just every new laptop that comes out it rolls into
the lab we like run the whole suite of testing on it and then we can figure
out without having to just like guess which ones
are actually worth making a video about that's that's the overall
vision for how the Labs will work in the long term it's going to take
a long time though Luke as
an if I don't use my muscles and stay active I get sad person
as well I find it hard to find time to relax and rest I know
you also like the grind what helps you relax and feel better grinding hard
hard grinder there I answered it for him he's something
of a grinder enthusiast note that earlier I said that
I'm not gay I didn't say anything about Luke
you never said the chicken only worked on women
are things that are very not recommended
to do to relax like the games that I tend to like playing are
like Tarkov and stuff which is just like that's not relaxing
that's like actually enrageifying yeah
which is the things that I tend to do I don't I don't have good advice here
sorry I wish I did I should probably work on that
it's like almost certainly a flaw
stress management is don't
yeah let's not take advice from Luke no
I'm kind of that's where I'm going that's where I'm going with this maybe the wrong
person asked for advice here I appreciate that you asked and thought that I
would have good advice here but yeah I tend to just like
pile on more it's probably bad I probably have cortisol issues it might be why I
can't sleep properly but you know we'll get there we'll figure it out one thing at a time
yeah I know I saw episode one of the new season I haven't seen the second yet though
I'm very excited about it though because if there's anyone
who deserves to be lampooned it's someone who puts down dogs for no reason
people who are mean to dogs
how is that how that became controversial at all is wild to me
wait that became controversial apparently depends
what you ask
mdaw says that's my secret
I'm always stressed yeah pretty much
it's an Avengers reference I don't know if you
watch that one did you watch that one everyone knows that reference
I have not watched Elijah doesn't Elijah doesn't know any references he actually
does know more now I feel like he plays it up
I hope he plays it up I hope he plays it up alright what's next
hey Eldan sandwich Linus working nights so I didn't see you but
I saw dad old's go kart selfie did you intend to make
the meme face or did you just have resting meme face I just had resting
meme face I went to I went to the go karts at
West Edmonton mall and apparently someone saw me on the leaderboard there
not high on it it's just to be very clear
we raced at junior speeds because we had I was in the dual
cart with one of my kids not that I would have been on the leaderboard even in a
single cart I want to make that clear as well but I was like especially
not fast because I was going at half maximum speed fun fun
track even at half speed it was it was it was really fun
it was dual level right yeah but no the meme face is
just what I look like unfortunately
I have a flex to Jake and I came fourth and fifth at the open
sauce sim racing leaderboard oh that's pretty sick which was
kind of insane it was like a tenth slower than him
immense immense quick class of 2004
here finishing my degree Linus did you ever consider finishing your degree
or getting a two or four year would you encourage your kids 24
sorry class of 2004
class of 2004 finishing degree yeah no
no class of 2004 so same age as me
just now finishing their degree like they went back anyway
sorry carry on Dan before you were so rudely interrupted no that's okay I'm used to it
from you getting a two to four year education would you encourage your
kids to pursue education or work experience after high school
I would you've taught Luke well by the way I
would encourage them to pursue education or work experience after high school
I I don't think
school was the right place for me
I thrive in the
I actually I didn't just survive I thrived in the more guided
high school experience the more hand-holdy
education experience I did not do well in the
like bigger university self guided
experience I have a really hard time
motivating myself to learn stuff that I don't already care about which is a real
challenge for me see with computers it's easy because I already care about it so that's
why it was easy to just like learn stuff and make videos about it and then I learned to
care about making videos I guess so I don't know I absorb some stuff that I don't
really care about but I but then I start to care about it and then
I learn more of it I don't know I I don't necessarily
think that for my career I would benefit
that much from going back for a degree but I could see myself
doing something like ever since we brought up the
honestly not even okay I was about to say ever since
we found those kit planes remember that those uh that was a few
when shows ago we discovered that you can like you can like buy the parts of an airplane
and assemble it yourself but even before that like when we were
talking about that gamer jet I was like man how cool would it be
to get like again this is all
relatively speaking no one should necessarily look at my lifestyle and
think oh well that's you know normal but a relatively affordable
jet how cool would it be to like learn to fly it like if I if I was if I was
down to do pilot training would you do it because I think we've talked
about this before jet level pilot training is really
well you have to do you have to do regular pilot training before you do any jet level pilot
training regular pilot training I would be interested in it's very it's very
cool that'd be super cool interesting yeah I'm definitely
I'm definitely open to the idea yeah I want to do that like
since I think we probably first talked about that like 2012
yeah something I've been interested in for in like forever yeah
so like I don't know like I think I'd be more likely to do a
really cool certification like get like a dive master or certification
yeah get like a pilot certification or get like I think I'd be
I'd want to like certify to do cool stuff rather than
rather than go back to academia I think that makes a lot more sense
like for me and not for everybody like
I don't think my advice to all of my kids would be the same even
I think because not everybody is the same for some of them I think
that I think that academics makes a ton of sense and for others
I think they should pursue other endeavors and I'm not going to get
into anything specific because that's a little personal in terms of like the
information about my various children I don't mind talking
about like collectively them but I don't want to get into the individual specifics
but yeah no I don't think I would say the same thing to any of my three
I mean that's what I suspect that's probably true for most
just groups of people in general I don't know it seems to be especially
I don't think that's too weird to say the preschool teacher who is the one teacher
who had all three of them the first thing she said to me when I picked
up my youngest after her like second or third day or something like that
and remember this is someone who really interacts with small children for a living
she kind of hands her off to me and she goes boy you sure got a variety pack
didn't you
we really did
up next Linus did you like working
and growing up on a hobby farm what would you think if you had to work on it
as an adult well it was a hobby farm so I didn't really like work on a farm
like I did farm like work quite often you know scooping
horse poop and and you know
filling potholes on the gravel driveway and you know
getting eggs and washing eggs and like I did a lot of like farmy type stuff
but I didn't like you know rise at the crack of dawn and
and work the fields and stuff
I it's tough
I feel like my kids are missing out in a big way
by me not providing that that upbringing for them
but I really really really really really really really don't want to do it anymore
as an adult I don't actually like just like
I don't even want a dog at this point
like the the amount of your life that is dictated
by the schedule of animal care is not something that
is really compatible with running a 100
plus person company
unless you are hiring people to care for said animals in which case that's not a hobby
farm anymore that's now a commercial farm and you're basically asking me
why I don't just pull a Jeremy Clarkson which who knows I might someday
but it is not this day Linus
with how much the Samsung fold is improved with the fold 7
okay hold on a second okay yes I have a lot of cats
but cats are not a ton of work I don't think you have enough cats
exactly like cats are fine as long as the cats are all getting along
and as long as they all just like are able to handle the
concept of just leaving food and water out and they just eat when they're hungry and drink when they're thirsty
like dude we have litter robots we went away for
four days almost and they were fine
we came home and they greeted us at the door and they had each other for company
while we were gone cats are so easy so easy
okay sorry carry on with how much the Samsung fold has improved
with the fold 7 compared to the one you drowned years ago and pixel fold being
really good as well do you see yourself daily driving a foldable again
yes fold 7 is going to be my next phone after I
do graphene OS or I might actually skip right to the fold
because people keep bringing it up today and I'm genuinely very excited
to use it and then do graphene OS after
where is the farthest you've traveled for a tech product either to buy
or to view and what was said product
farthest I've traveled to view I went to
this isn't necessarily further but
it's a more difficult trip I went to China for a Microsoft
Surface launch way back in the day 2017
I think
you know what I think China is probably the farthest I've ever gone to
maybe not I mean that Renault thing that I did in Paris
what's farther from here Shenzhen or Paris Dan do you know mapping
if that's the case if Germany's farther
then it would be Germany to see cherry
yeah yeah I think does it count
if it's professionally though or would it have to be personally for this question
like to buy something buy or view
who would travel to view a product that they're not buying
I'm going to go with buy and the farthest I ever went to buy
something was to Taiwan to buy the gold GPU
the thing that I laid out in the video was the truth I couldn't get it
sent here it had to be transferred
from like the Middle Eastern region to
through HQ and I was able to buy it
through like an intermediary basically
so that was the farthest I ever went to buy something and then I ended up giving it away
which I had genuinely did not intend to do it was James who
it wasn't that he twisted my ARM it was that he pitched me a content
idea I couldn't resist and I was like ahhh
f**k now I have to do it
and I was going to build like a sick like black and gold
because we have a bunch of gold fittings kicking around like I was going to redo my machine
all black and gold with the astral GPU and then the stupidest part was that
I was going to have to remove the gold cooler in order to water cool it
so I was going to get a block and then I was going to gold plate it or something
it was going to be a whole thing but I'm really happy with
how that video turned out and really happy with the person
to come across us and win it this year so I'm glad we did it
that's all I got what's farther Dan?
it's about 6500 miles to Shenzhen and about 5000 to Paris
okay so then the answer is China for both of us then Luke
so the farthest I went to look at something
as probably Shenzhen is a little further than Taipei right?
I think it's a little further I legitimately
this title is 100% true
I flew all the way to China just so I could try this
alright and I saw robot Yao Ming
nice that apparently is actual size
but he cheated he's on a thing yeah
so this was to see the OG badminton robot
I am not going to let you see the sphere before we go
some people point out a very obvious and good point that I would have normally caught
but definitely didn't which is that if I show you the sphere you can figure where I am
there are 24-7 live streams of the sphere and if you go back to that point
in the WAN Show you could see the cats that I was talking about
so there you go it ended up not being as impressive as I'd hoped
the sphere? I don't know the badminton robot that I'm showing
the audience was it not good?
it's not that it's not good it's just that I don't know
I thought it would be better like I
to make it look as good as it did in the other videos they had to really like
try whereas I tried to push it a little bit
and it crumbled immediately failed
let's wrap it up boys see you again next week, same bad time, same bad time
I needed you for hours
alright bye Luke have a good weekend
thank you
you