Hello everybody, how's it going? How are you? Merry holiday thing. I hope yours is going
well. I'm reading up on this on this hilarious topic. Pre show. Come join us, Sammy.
Oh, I mean, you may be able to do that too. I suspect he can flip that over. Maybe complicit
in this crime. Yeah, no one knows me. It's only a hand. Oh, and I'm just gonna. You said
your name like 15 times. It's all my legal names. That's true. That's why in all the
credits of full playing, you'll never see the word Sammy on it. Do people get confused
by that? Should I say it? Sorry. Yeah, sure. I just kind of came here so I can get a shot
of Lance walking in. You could do that from his chair. Yeah, I know. Like you have been
usurped. Yeah, I've been, yeah, it's Asian Linus. You know, you know, in that video,
the national intro, Linus commented, you caught me at a very Korean time in my life. I was
probably the funniest comment I've seen in my life. I know you think it says something
about like Linus being more like, I don't like not white and then they're like, you
caught me at a very Korean time in my life. That's funny. That's what Linus said. Yeah.
Go on the go on the wancho. Go on the comments of the when you were faking. When was that
October 31st? Okay. Wow, we were really, it was really on Halloween, wasn't it? Yeah.
It was meant to be. I'm trying to believe hard not to swear. I swore in front of Linus's
kid by accident. Linus looked at me with the widest eyes I've seen in my life. He does
that. We're talking about volleyball and I got excited. You're that passionate about
volleyball? I played like, I think three hours of volleyball and my legs are dying. I'm gonna
have really bad knees when I'm like 60. Yeah, and that was enough to like swear in front
of children. Yes. Usually I'm really got swearing because I used to be in like customer service
for like a financial. So how far how far do things have to go before you just started
swearing? Oh my God, my knees. I just get anxious. You know, I'm just an anxious guy. So then
once people start talking to me, I get like, oh, unless I'm in like customer service mode.
You know, do you have a customer service mode? Yeah, it activates on wancho only. For some
reason, I can't turn it on in front of like Linus's kids. Yeah, because I have also sworn
in front of Linus's kids. But wancho for some reason will just and I don't I don't like
mentally shift at all. It just happens. I have like my like pitch off my like octave
my speaking pitch goes up like four like, Hello, sir. How are you today? Oh, no. Yeah.
No. Yeah. Mine's like no. And then I will always fake people's names. So I'm like, Hello,
the good sir. You know, holy crap. It's my favorite comment. That's actually hilarious.
This is tough. This is tough. That is wild, dude. That is so sick. I actually love that
that's a thing. You met me at a very, oh man, Korean time in his life. He can really be funny
sometimes. I have one ever 1000 jokes. He says one's really good. Yeah. Yeah. How are people?
I saw something about Luke week. Oh, I know I lost it. Nevermind. How are people? Yeah,
what do you guys think? Yeah, what do you think about the video? I asked I asked discord like
when you guys want uploaded for before my an afterware. Wait, is it up? Yeah, it's up. You
commented first. Yeah, but I commented first while I was unlisted. Oh, I come to the first
like a long time ago, dude. Cheater, cheater, pumpkin eater.
It got pinned. Oh, yeah, I pinned it. Sorry. I pinned it. Luke is six, seven. Yeah, he did. He
did this thing. I was like, haha. Yeah, I didn't intention. No one in our audience, no one in the
comments recognize it. Luke, we was fantastic, but we want to answer is when Sammy week, never.
I never it will never happen because I don't want I hate editing myself.
I don't like watching contents that I'm in. I'm like, I like your video game outlook by
too lazy to name. Interesting. Yeah. Is there a full plane discord? Yes. I think if you
okay, don't I'm not 100% right. I don't think but it's like if you link the discord and the
connective full plane, I think I think I'm wrong to be honest. Java juice probably knows better.
I like, I like what is it? I lurk there always. It's always interesting to see what people talk
about in that chat. This is very interesting. I'm going to talk about a top comment right now,
right now, right now. I'm going to talk about this breaking news, breaking news. Here my moo
who arc Raiders could be such a top, top game, but it isn't what it could Jungle. It's not because
it has PvE. It's not because it has PvP. It's because you lose your gear. If you're taken out by
an unfriendly arc, or wait, it's not because you lose your gear. If you're taken out by an
unfriendly arc or Raider, it's because the two predominant tactics used for PvE play are exclusively
camping around extraction sites and picking off people as they try to extract or spamming the
don't shoot emote at someone and then blasting that someone in the back as occasional tactics.
These wouldn't be a negative issue, but they are so dominant that not only has it created a
huge self-perpetuating atmosphere of distrust amongst Raiders, it also threatens to overshadow
and nullify the PvE elements of the game. I wouldn't want to ban or prevent any currently
permitted tactic from our graders, but I would like to see embark come up with some gameplay ideas
that help the balance things a little more so that other elements can shine again,
like they used to. Cynicism and endemic distrust isn't really a great recipe for
properly long-term prosperity in a game. I think that's a hot take. Edit! I'm a big fan of
many of Luke's takes on Wann and elsewhere, but his misty-eyed waxing about the common place
occurrence of Raiders teaming up on Arc shows that when he says he hasn't really gamed much lately
because of home renovations, he really means it. Well, low and bold, commenter! I have a computer
again and have been an extreme degenerate over the last week and have played many games and
almost all of them have been Arc Raiders, and I have not had your experience. In one game,
one game that I did record and sent to Sammy, I had three different emerging experiences with
four, at least three or four. One of them, somebody just said hi. Another one, somebody
came up from behind me while I was fighting Arc and was like, by the way, I found a gun,
do you want it? And then walked me over to the gun and gave it to me, no problem. And then
a few people were just kind of like standing around, and then we fought one of those, I don't remember what they're called, leapers, I think, the big black four-legged spider robots. And then
we fought that and then all looted it all friendly. And then after that, as I was extracting,
some dude was like, oh here, by the way, here's a bunch of like really valuable loot. Have fun,
I'm doing my expedition thing now, and then left all in one match. This stuff happens,
it's a PvP game, but I think the risk of these things happening is where the magic happens. You
need, I didn't, I script could have been a little bit longer. I was running out of time, but that's,
I think it's actually like super important that that negativity is there. But anyways,
it's a good comment though. Thank you for commenting. Why is there,
I just want to say that comment, I think the longevity is good. Yeah, I think it's a good,
it's a good mechanic for longevity. I agree. Actually, you need to get better. You need risk.
There's a reason why it has PvP and people are going to be crappy in PvP, but that, that takes,
it makes it so that there's this, there's this like rise and fall constantly. It makes it,
there's risk, there's tension all the time. If once you got to an extractor is like whatever,
I mean, I'm getting out, who cares? Then there's no, I appreciate that comment. Me too.
Yeah. Civil comment. No, it's a great comment. I think it was really good. I'm not trying to
dog on the comment. I just don't necessarily agree. Are we pre streaming right now? We are.
I just need a minute. Sorry. You're good, brother. He wrote his passion. Yeah. Again,
it's a good comment. I like discourse. It's a, I think it was very low. I just,
I just, it's not my experience, but if it's yours, here's what it is.
Nope. I'm good. Thank you very much. Hey, congrats. What? That's crazy, isn't it?
Nice.
Someone said like Luke confirmed reads comments. Yeah. Yeah, I do. I do.
Yeah, I've never heard of that. So maybe send in a support ticket. I can't like people often
tag me and like, Hey, this thing is working in a certain way like during when, which is probably
the hardest time for me to possibly address any of that information. I don't know. Sorry.
But if you send in support ticket, we will see it. It is, it is significantly more effective
to send in a support ticket than to tell me stuff during when and it's very easy to send a
support ticket. You don't have to, you know, we're not avoiding them like some companies.
You can literally just email us. You don't have to go to the form or anything. You can just email
support at flowman.com. Done. Solved. We're not, we're not trying to, you have to read,
you have to dive through at least three FAQ pages before you send us an email.
Like, no, we don't care. You can either just go to the form, fill it out there or send an email.
All good.
Should I, just like six donors, should I send in a support ticket or post on Reddit about it and
then ask them if I should send in a support ticket?
How are your workouts going? I can finally, for the first time in the last like three and a half
months, say good. They started up again this week because my wrist functions again, which is great.
All right, should we do this thing? Yeah. Cool.
Yo, dyslexic donor. Good work. Keep it up. Assuming that's healthy.
Is odd pieces a sponsor today? Okay.
Okay.
Hell yeah. Keep going dyslexic donor. Good stuff.
Can I help you at all? Okay.
Thank you.
How's your week?
Terrible, actually. Cool.
We'll have to catch up on that later. It's fine.
Hey, LTT YouTube, I'm just punching it.
I almost clicked remove selected. It's one of those days.
All right, Dan, let me know when we're live. That prompt has saved many lives.
What is up, everybody? And welcome to an early Christmas present, the WAN Show, but earlier.
Oh, we've got so much good news for you guys this week.
Meta is tolerating rampant fraud through their ads in order to make more money.
Wow. Good job, Meta. Truly keeping your shareholders safe at the expense of everybody else.
In other news, Microsoft seems to have said the quiet part out loud that nobody cares at all
about co-pilot and that it just kind of doesn't really matter, but also they're still committed.
They're still committed. They're going to cram it down your throat. Open up your throat.
Open it up now, because I'm going to cram it in there. Yeah. That's Microsoft. Sachin Nadella,
he's going for it. Sachin Nadella wants to cram it down your throat.
That's why he's got, that's why he's bald. That should have been the WAN title to you.
It's so he can dive in. That should have been the WAN title.
Right down there. The thumbnail text is just...
You know, you have to recover just long enough to do a couple of topics.
Minutes into the show. Okay. You took the one I really wanted to do.
I know. That's what I do. Good job. NVIDIA, reportedly plans a 30 to 40% cut in G4's GPU
production. Nobody saw this coming. It's a surprise to everyone for sure. Also, the ramp
apocalypse continues. Also, surprise to every... You're surprised, actually? I'm surprised.
Really? No, of course not. Yeah. Okay. Nice. Intro time. Oh, what?
Oh, no way. We have my gamer tank.
That was fantastic. You keep talking over the music. The show is brought to you by MSI, Squarespace,
Saley, and Vessy. Of course, alongside our RAP partner, D-brand, our laptop partner,
Dell, and our chair partner. Get ready. Let's go. Now, I do want to say,
Noki, that was an incredible, incredible WAN Show intro variant, but there is one minor detail
that you got unforgivably wrong. What? I would never beat Luke at video games.
You do? Yeah. I will win. I'll steal a couple rounds from you when we first pick up a new game,
and then after that, it's basically just like the Luke Shrek's Linus show. I don't think it's
that clear. You've always said this. I don't think... Okay. A one-off example is not fair enough.
What was that game? It was like a jump around everywhere. Tower Fall?
Tower Fall? We traded back and forth a lot on Tower Fall. Yeah, because I have like five times as many hours in it as you.
I don't know. Also, my childhood was 2D side scrolling and jumping, and yours was Halo.
Right, but then you look at games like Halo, and you're like, you beat me at those games,
and it's like, yeah. And then I look at games like those ones, and I say, you beat me at those
games, and you're like, yeah, but I grew up with those. Like, it has to be equal. Yeah, but I had so many more hours in it too.
Yeah, but I also had so many more hours in shooters. I am trying to pay you a compliment. Just take it.
No, not at expense of others. Oh, that's true. I am better than him at super checks, but that's not a video game. So...
I will vibe code, super checks the video game, then I will win a video game against Luke.
He'd find a way to win it. I was going to say, I don't know, dude. I might figure that out.
Speaking of which, Metta has found a way to figure out how to keep the billions of dollars in
revenue that they are making from fraudulent advertisers who are just using ads on Metta's
platforms to, well, defraud people. This is based on a Reuters report that shows that
internal documents allegedly show that Metta understood that a large portion of its advertising
revenue from Chinese partners, and this is not like, like a little bit large portion,
this is like roughly 19% of their advertising revenue in 2024. Over $3 billion came from ads
that were tied to, and brace yourself, scams, illegal gambling, pornography,
and other prohibited content. Then, seeing all that, Metta went, hmm, well, what we could do
is we could crack down on this. But, but hear me out, hear me out, alternate plan, we could not.
And make billions of dollars. From bogus products in Taiwan to investment
scams in the US and Canada, China has become a major source of scam ads on Metta's platforms
globally. A special China focused anti-fraud team initially was able to cut this problematic
Chinese ad revenue nearly in half. But, all of this is allegedly because I do not work for Reuters,
and I did not do the reporting for this. Allegedly, after a strategy shift influenced by
the Zuck himself, the team was apparently disbanded and tougher enforcement measures were shelved.
In a big surprise to everyone, especially the Zuck, fraudulent ads and therefore the revenue
associated with them rebounded. I wonder when this was, was this during like his big layoff
when he was like, we need to. The year of efficiency? No, I think it's more recent than that.
Actually, you know what? No, don't quote me on that. Let's leave it. Go check out the link
to Reuters, which Dan will throw in the video chat, description chat. Throw in the chat.
A big part of the reason that this works so well is that Metta's ad ecosystem in China relies on
layers of resellers that obscure advertisers' identities, making it easier for scammers to
place ads. Consultants warned that this setup enables fraud, and that Metta's enforcement
was weaker than their competitors. And it appears that they just don't care, because they'd rather
just take the money and go, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, I don't know that fraudulent ads are
happening on the platform, la, la, la, la. I mean, I just, to me, even with the network of
resellers, it doesn't seem that complicated, because apparently it's like, I read the article,
apparently it's like 11 top-level resellers or something like that. So if Metta cared at all,
even with the whole layers of resellers thing, just pushing the responsibility onto them and
going, yeah, I will literally ban you if too much of this crap makes it through.
You know how so many things in life are bell curves? There's that whole meme
where there's the person who's just chill about a thing, because they're ignorant to it or whatever,
and then the person freaking out about it the thing, because they're at a medium level of
skill or knowledge, and then on the other end, it's just someone who's extremely skilled or
extremely knowledgeable, and they're just chill again. I feel like this applies to this situation
as well. Really? This is kind of a wild take. Let's see where he's going with this.
A really small company can often get away with just not carrying or paying attention to these
types of things. Oh, I see what you mean. A medium-sized company gets crushed by everyone,
because you're now big enough, you have to care about these things, and then really big companies
just get to ignore them again. They get to basically not have customer service. They get to not police
things like ads or anything else on their platforms, because they're like, I don't know, we're too big. We can't do that anymore, of course. That's totally fine, even though they
definitely have the resources to do so. It's interesting how requirements, policies,
upholding certain standards and stuff are really, really, really pushed for it, the middle size.
This is wild. I saved this. Facebook, I think I talked about this last week, how Facebook sent
me an invitation to use some feature on my page. Do you need to search for... Oh, never mind.
Yeah, no, no, I got it. They create a fan challenge to keep your audience engaged
with your page on Facebook. They sent me the same thing again. In fact, here, you can see,
in the last week, I have three emails from Facebook. One, two, three. All with the same
subject line for the Linus Tech Tips page on Facebook to create this fan challenge.
Now, I've gone into the Facebook dashboard, and I'm not an expert on Facebook page management
or profile management or advertising or anything. I log into Facebook as infrequently as I can,
and I only really use it for marketplace at this point. I'm not going to claim that I have done
the world's greatest job of finding where to turn this off. What I have done is I've gone
into my Facebook dashboard and I've turned off every communication method that I could find,
because I don't want emails from them unless it's something to do with the taxation for paying out
our Facebook video ads, which were a thing for a while. Honestly, now they're not even that much.
I don't think we're really making pretty much anything on Facebook anymore.
You know, they had that big push into video like six years ago or something like that.
Anyway, yeah, four or five. I don't know. It happened though. I'm going to go over here.
We're both hanging out. So, I don't want to miss an important message. So, I can't just filter
every message from Facebook. So, I wanted to turn off specifically this. Now, in Canada,
anyway, we have a law called Can Spam that dictates that you are not allowed to send an email
that is unsolicited and you need to have a clear way to unsubscribe. Luke, can you find
in this email any even attempt to adhere to Can Spam regulations?
Not in the slightest. There is not only no button to unsubscribe from this email,
but there isn't even a link to my dashboard for where to turn it off.
I have someone in particular that I might be actually genuinely enforcing to
reporting to Can Spam stuff. Wait, Can Spam is US law? Canada is CASL?
Am I crazy? Can Spam. Holy s***.
If you look up Can Spam, it does bring up Canada's anti-spam legislation.
Huh, cool. Okay, then they're violating US law and Canadian law. That's cool.
But it is called CASL. It's interesting when you Google it that it brings up Canada's.
Yeah, I completely Mandela affected myself. I suspect this is a commonly Mandela affected one considering it brings up Canada's.
Anyway. But it is CASL. The commenter is correct.
Cool. Thank you for that. And also doesn't change the point.
It is interesting. You're right. A really, really small company would probably get away
with just like sending out unsolicited. You'd kind of go... Because most people are like, whatever. Yeah, I get it.
Yeah. They probably don't even know. And enforcing every policy for freaking everywhere
is honestly just impossible. So whatever. And then you get to a certain size and everyone's like,
You should really... You need to comply with every single thing everywhere in the entire world all the time
or else we will delete your entire company. And then you get to that size.
And it's like, well, you're not going to touch them anyways. And even if you do,
they're not going to care about the fines because it's probably worth it to them to just
pay the fines that are ultimately like, they'll be like, oh yeah, by violating this policy,
we made $382 million and the fine costs $15 million. So like...
Cost of doing business, baby. That's the best cost of doing business I've ever heard of. Sounds good.
Pay the fine. You just hit these levels where it just doesn't matter anymore.
And it's funky. Yeah. And I'm not surprised that they're shirking like all of this stuff because
who cares? People aren't going to stop using them. Because that's another thing. You hit like a certain level of critical mass where
people can scream about it all they want, but they're not going to stop using meta services.
Maybe a tiny handful, but it's not going to significantly impact their actual user base.
Lieutenant Salty says, my boss sends emails using our POS software. We send texts and emails.
And I've told my boss he needs to have an unsubscribe option. He's just like, no.
Yep. Yep. Apparently that's what the Zuck said too.
But yeah, I've got somebody who sends emails to my personally email inbox.
And I don't even care. That's a dumpster fire. But I have unsubscribed multiple times
and blocked them multiple times, but they keep just taking their email list and bringing it
over to different email services because I'm sure they just know this happens.
And like I've never actually done a report before, but I might actually do it.
Because I have blocked and unsubscribed at least close to 10 times.
I have a conspiracy theory that the unsubscribe button is actually just to verify that it's a
real inbox. I am 100% certain that happens at least sometimes because I know of at least one case.
And so I might, they might even actually unsubscribe you to that list,
but then sell the information that you're definitely a real person reading their actual
email. To their other company to...
Yep. Very cool. I feel like in medieval times, they would have just like...
Kinjara just said, I work for an e-com company and we have migrated email servers
multiple times over the last five years for the very reason you mentioned.
That's rough. Thanks for letting me know that is interesting. But also, I think this person is
literally like more than one or two times a year. It's very often.
But that is, you know, I'm not surprised by these things. And this is kind of what I'm
talking about. Like at a certain scale, you just don't care and you work around it.
And at the bottom scale, other people don't care. And then in the middle, you get crushed by both
realistic or not realistic. You get crushed by both like governmental regulation stuff and
people expectations. I'm reporting as a spam. It's a great filter. And Google won't do anything.
Nope. Oh, I just blocked it. Whoops. No, I don't. You know what? Fine. F*** it.
I'm just never going to get any email from Facebook again, apparently.
Actually, I really shouldn't do that. If we don't know about taxes, we don't have to pay them right.
Is that how that works? No, actually, our current issue is that they
are withholding some taxes from us that they shouldn't be because we're Canadian. And Yvonne
has like a long chain going back and forth with them. I haven't actually brought that because
it's a separate support team for like actual, they have a support team for like money. Right.
But just like managing your page on just my account, like I don't have anything special in there.
No may rank. That is not financial advice for me.
Yeah. This is important right now.
Why don't we do our headline topic next? Microsoft is, this is such a corporate way to say this,
lowering its growth targets for co-pilot as it has, and this is a quote, this is amazing,
struggled to find buyers interested in using it. Yeah. This is according to a story from
The Information, which has resulted in a two and a half percent stock price drop on Wednesday.
I mean, you can never quite attribute like a share move to just one piece of news.
Honestly, I would have expected more, not financial advice. Based on how hyped the
market is on AI stuff right now, then being like, yeah, it's failing. And then the market was like,
okay. Well, I mean, here's the thing, right? There's a ton of inertia in all of this.
Like I've been, I mean, Tesla just hit an all time high, right? So you got to remember that
this kind of ties back perfectly to that long conversation we had last week about information
bubbles. What percentage of people read the information? And I don't mean any information
in general. I mean theinformation.com. What percentage of people read this? What percentage
of people who read it have a subscription so they can read more than just the snippet?
Who actually even knows about this? Not to mention that so much of the investment in
things like the S&P are just, are automated. Like people will literally set up their paycheck to
just siphon off some of it and just dump it into their portfolio. These are not decisions that
they're making based on an article they read today and they shouldn't. That actually is financial
advice. You should not be just like every day moving around. No, it's still technically not
financial advice. It is still, but it is financial advice that I've received. Sure. That the average
person should not be just like micromanaging their stock portfolio from day to day based on,
you know, individual pieces of news. Is not financial advice that we're giving you. Correct,
but it is financial advice that I've received from people who are qualified to give financial
advice. So make of that what you will. Yeah, I think that's fine. So most people are not doing
that. True. You look at like a pension fund, for instance, where they have tens or hundreds of
millions of dollars that they're managing or billions of dollars that they're managing.
You can't just sell a $400 million stake in Microsoft just like that. You can,
you might not get the best price for it necessarily. Actually, Microsoft could probably
absorb that much. Yeah, Microsoft could probably absorb that much, but depending on the size of
the company, right, for every sale of a share, there has to be a purchase of a share. I just,
I take every opportunity to talk about the Toronto Teachers Pension Fund. Currently sitting at $269.6
billion in assets. Let's go. Yep. Massive, right? And so an entity like that
isn't going to just read this article and be like... Yeet, we're completely out of Microsoft.
Sell, sell, sell, sell all the Microsoft immediately. And you have to have, especially
on a company with the market cap of Microsoft, you would have to have a huge, huge volume of
transactions in order for the price to really appreciably nosedive, which isn't to say it
never happens or that it won't happen when the AI bubble really like pop pops, but two and a half
percent in a day is a lot. Anywho, what were we talking about again? Right, yeah, two and a half
percent stock drop on Wednesday. Co-pilot currently holds 14% AI market share, apparently,
with Google's Gemini less than 1% behind. This deeply depends on how you measure
market share and based on tiny factors could swing massive amounts, just to be super clear.
Apparently, a big part of the sales struggles is that AI agents being sold to businesses as
labor replacements are failing to complete real-world office tasks 70% of the time according
to researchers at Carnegie Mellon University. Honestly, I'm surprised they're successful 30%
of the time. I suspect that is, again, how you measure it and also fub factor and lack of reporting
and stuff because it's like for sure higher than that, but yeah. Cool. Or there's companies that
are like accepting a certain amount of, okay, doesn't seem like it's actually replacing the person,
but we can maybe accelerate some people this way, so we're not going to report it as a failure
anyways, like stuff like that. Microsoft defended co-pilot claiming that the information story
inaccurately combines the concepts of growth and sales quotas and they said that aggregate sales
quotas for AI products have not been lowered. Before we keep going, another thing I would say
about that 70% figure is I bet you there are cases where they are happy that they're not working as well.
I could see, I was just talking earlier about how like in the pre-show, someone brought up,
oh, my user name that I changed didn't reflect the change in full-plane chat for some reason,
and I was like, okay, cool, send in a support ticket. We're not one of those companies that
try to obfuscate it or make it harder to do by making you read FAQ articles and stuff.
They might like that their support chat bots are bad. Interesting idea. I've never really
thought about this before, but I wonder if it's genuine because there's like a ton of dark patterns
at various companies that get put in place to stop you from actually properly sending in support
tickets. Oh yeah, 100% because every support ticket costs money and every serving you a website
webpage. If it's successful, you get a refund or a new product or something. Yeah. Like they don't
actually want those to go through in a lot of cases. Right. Definitely not all, right, obviously,
but like there are definitely some. So if it's like bad and it just results in people not being
willing to go through the process and they just give up, and that shows up in some reporting
dashboard as like, oh, we set up this AI bot and our expenditure on refunds and replacements is
lower. They'll see that as a success. I have no idea. This is a lot of like. I'm going to choose
to believe conspiracy theory that it's not that bad at most places. I'm going to choose to believe
it's not that bad in most cases just for now, just for my own sake. I have no idea. This is based on
nothing. And so, and, and my position is based on not being able to handle the emotional burden
of you being correct about this. Who knows? One of the ways that Microsoft is growing their AI
business still though is by forcing LG TV users to have a shortcut to co-pilot installed on their
smart TV home screen. They have apparently since allowed users to delete the shortcut,
but there was a period where it was not possible to delete and the backlash was swift and secure.
Our discussion question is, why would you want co-pilot on your TV?
Yeah, I don't. Extremely cold take, but man, smart TVs suck.
Cool. Yeah, that was a, that was pretty, that was pretty good. Actually, oh, this is actually,
this is a good, this is a good discussion question. David Gochia compared this topic
is a bad TV UX enough to persuade you to buy a different brand. And, and follow up question
for let's assume an equal viewing experience, how much more would you spend?
I do think a bad UX could push me away from buying a certain TV.
But the last TV upgrade that was done for my dad, we looked for one that on purpose
was like as dumb as possible.
The, how much is enough is a tough one. I don't know. I really don't know.
Well, you think metal max scene had one idea. Hey, co-pilot, is this the episode I watched last
week? Or is it just another scene of Abby and Mickey hacking? I guess if you wanted to ask it
questions about content, but it's like, I don't know. See, I have the same issue with this
that I have with like a wearable AI companion and, you know, an AI ring and an AI glasses
and an AI, I already have a phone in my pocket. I literally already have it.
It's also going to be wrong often. We did the, the full point exclusive that is out now,
the last one from Luke week, which is a gaming video. And when I was looking over some of the,
like B-roll footage I was sending to Sammy, Jim and I just did a summary without me asking
of some of the footage that I had put in Google drive. And it like summarized a bunch of gameplay
footage that I had. And it had like my mic and the person I was playing with's mic in the recording.
So it tried to summarize like the things that happened and what we said about it. And it was
like 70% correct. And 30% of it was just totally made up. And that's going to happen here.
I was reading different parts. I was like, wow, that never happened. Neat. Yeah.
Dyslexic stoner asks, what if my AI on my TV could put swear words back in instead of bleeps?
I would give away all my info for that. No, now you're just, you're just imagining too useful of a function for AI. Okay. Oh,
oh, this was such a great example of how, but with real swears, all of this stuff is just
still. And I just, how many years ago was it that Google did that demo where your AI assistant,
and this is pre like the generative AI LLM thing, where your AI assistant was supposed to,
to phone your hairdresser and make an appointment for you? So long ago. That was like
a billion years ago. I think at least like seven. I think, I think it was something,
yeah, I think, I think you're probably right. I think it was like six to eight years ago or
something like that. And I basically was like cap because like it's just obviously
of six to seven. Very funny. Because it's just, it's, it's obviously the kind of thing that would
work, but would work so poorly that it's actually more work than just calling your hairdresser
and making an appointment and looking at the calendar yourself, right? I had another prime,
wow, you nailed it. May 2018 apparently says Andy in the UK. Boom. Nice. I had yet another one
of those moments because I looked at that and I went, my assistant can, can barely figure out like
if I mean a local address or I mean one in New Brunswick when I asked to navigate somewhere.
Like you got to be kidding me. My assistant is purely for setting alarms. Yeah. Or
right. Shazam. Like my assistant, my assistant at that time, you still couldn't set an alarm
using Google assistant. That was more than 24 hours in the future. Like you couldn't,
do you remember that? You couldn't set an alarm for like two days from now. And that's a big
problem for me because a calendar event is not enough for me. Like that's not enough for something
I actually need to do. I need it to ring when it's time for me to do something. How is that still,
how is that still not a function? Don't break it. How's that still not a function? I fully agree
because it's super annoying needing to just go do both and you should really be able to make a
calendar event, send off an alarm. Yeah, you really should. Anyway, anyway, anyway, anyway,
maybe there's a third party app, which would be super cool and if anyone knows one, feel free to
pop it in the chat. Feature idea too. If you're in the Google ecosystem, which kind of blows in a
lot of ways right now, but you should make it so that it sets off an alarm unless you're like in
the thing. So if you're in like a Google Meet that is in the calendar event, if you're in the thing,
just don't bother set the alarm off. That'd be cool. But if you're not, then it should like get
your attention until you get in the Google Meet. That would be sick. Cosmic Wolf says Siri is still
limited to 24 hours. Yeah, so I was about to talk about Siri. So Yvonne never got around to switching
back to her Android phone just yet, although iOS 26 has actually might make her might make her put
might make her go back. I have a video coming soon on my experience with iOS 26. But as far as I
can tell, it's like the biggest pile that Apple has released and that I'm aware of that I remember
ever using. Anyway, she went to use Siri last night and she's like, Hey, Siri, and actually
really like this, the way that Siri is just like, Hmm? Instead of being like, Yes, hello, what can I
do for you? Shut up and I'm the one who talks. I am the human. You are the clanker, you know?
Anyway, she goes, she goes, she goes, Hey, Siri, set a couple of reminders for me. I want to
Sorry, I can't do that. Why not? I thought that's the whole point of natural language interaction.
Why do I have to? Hey, Siri, set a reminder. I need to do blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,
Okay, blah, blah, no, shut up, shut up. Hey, Siri. Hmm? Set a reminder. I need to. No,
just let me do both. And until Oh, I'm so sorry. I'm setting off people's phones. My bad.
Stop saying the S word.
Yeah, I screwed up. I'm sorry. The point. Yeah, sorry. I can't show you that while driving. It's
like, bro, I'm not, I'm not driving. I'm in the passenger seat and I'm plugged into the car play.
That stuff is so annoying. Just thank you, nanny, but I'm not interested in having you take care
of me and what I'm allowed to do while I'm doing things. You know, a game that I'm surprised
doesn't exist. You know, when we were growing up and like everyone just universally played the
like raindrop game, where like the, you know, when, when condensation is like gathering on your
window and you like track how it goes. Yeah. Did you play the variant where you find a spot on
the windshield and you move around your head to dodge everything? That was my favorite one.
But everyone talks about the raindrop game. I thought that one was way more cool. But anyways,
we all used to do this. I'm surprised those don't exist as like basically games. Oh, yeah. There's,
there'd be no reason you couldn't do it with like head tracking. Yeah. It's got to be a thing.
It's got to be like a genre. Maybe I just don't know about it. It seems like it would actually
be like pretty fun. Oh, dude, you can do it in VR like super easy, I think. Yeah. I mean,
would you even, you wouldn't even need VR. No, no, but like I'm just saying to skip a lot of the
like steps. It should be not that hard, I think, but I don't know much about game development. So
William Comarton says, I used to try to name the make and model based on the headlight shape at
night. That's pretty cool. That's tough. Yeah. That's pretty tough. It's a lot more knowledge than
I would have had. Yeah. And with my eyes, I'm not, I'm not making out a headlight shape, dude.
I'm just getting.
Webdude says, for reminders and alarms on Android, there's an app, A calendar,
which can handle about five alarms slash reminders with noise or email.
Why is it five? I don't know. Maybe it's just, maybe, maybe it's just not quite
explained properly. Anyway, yeah, we can explore that another time. I just switched over to the
Fold 7. Unfortunately, this is not the new tri-fold and it took a grand total of one day.
It's not fold completely flat. Yep. So I need to add that to my notes.
I want, you know what, overall, I still am really, really loving it a lot so far.
It's like, dude, I haven't daily driven a Fold in years now.
And it's like, it's like going back into the warm embrace of an old friend, honestly.
Really? Yeah. I had a Teams meeting today that they were screen sharing on.
So I had a giant thing that I could read text on. I was like, oh, yeah. Yeah. I remember why this was
way better than literally anything else. And it's not for everybody, right? Like the battery life
is going to be a bit of a downer for some people. Although with that said, I'm sitting at 97% today,
but I did plug in on my way into work, so make of that what you will.
But if your use case benefits from the Fold, there's just, there's no question. I've already run into
a weird thing, Plex, the interface. If you tap your user icon at the top, in candy bar mode,
it's supposed to do something, I forget, but in like the more tablet mode, it slides
in a thing from the left and it accidentally did the tablet thing when I was in candy bar.
So my screen was just going dark because I couldn't see that it was sliding a thing from off screen.
Yeah. So just, you know, that's annoying. It's still not perfect. I was going to say,
I wonder if that's more on the phone. I feel like it should be reporting. That's the phone.
It's the phone. It's the phone. It's an Android. It's apps. It's just the poor integration between
all of them. Yeah. It's a Plex promise. Just a shitty app. Yeah, sure. But that doesn't,
and this is a take that I have, I have gone to war for a lot of times and I will continue
to go to war for. It doesn't matter. Yeah, it's true. When at the end of the day, right, when
people choose a device, whether they're choosing a candy bar Android, folding Android, an iPhone,
Windows phone, I don't care. You know, whatever it is that people are choosing.
Just keep going.
What matters is the user experience. And so, you know, back when I was on some of the early folds
and I couldn't use YouTube stories, I didn't care if that was Samsung's fault or Google's fault
or Father Christmas's fault. It just didn't matter. What mattered was that device was not
suitable for my use case. That's all that matters. Yeah. And so that's, and everyone else, I am the
user. I am the one giving the money to have this experience and everyone else needs to accommodate
what I need to get done on my device. So like, you know, let's look at Elijah's actually working on
a video about his switch to iPhone, which was made actually for predominantly contact sharing,
using AirDrop, because he went and was doing some networking at an event and missed out on some
really good contacts because they were just like, oh, I have to type something. You're a lesser being.
You know, oh, that's way too much work. I only tap my phone with people. I only interface with
Highborns. Whatever. The point is, he missed out on some, he missed out on some, some contacts.
And so he was like, okay, I'm just going to have to do it. But over time, he's found there's,
there's other benefits as well. And one of them is that for creative oriented apps,
sometimes they'll get cool new features before they're rolled out to other platforms. And
at the end of the day, is that the fault of the app creator? Is that the fault of the
the phone maker? Is that the fault of the operating system owner? In this case, you know,
Google doesn't matter. Why Elijah? He says iPhone is so much better for creators. It's kind of
scary. Why? What makes a difference? The thing I was talking about that you weren't listening to
because you were reading chat. Nice. Cool. I wasn't really. And he's going to do a full video about
it. So, you know, he'll be talking through a lot of this. Wait, the contact sharing? No,
not the contact sharing. You missed it. You missed the whole other thing that I was talking about
just now. Yes, we do need to do that.
Oh, yeah. Yeah. Oh, Larian topic. So apparently we all
now that's an early Christmas present. I have lots of things to say. I love video games.
But this isn't even for me. Last time I did this, I was stepping on a mic. Riley,
you're not on a, you don't have a mic yet. Hold on. There's supposed to be one here.
Dan promised. I know, but I know, but you don't have it yet. You can't talk yet.
I have to wear that. Wait, do we have a place for him to sit? What do you mean?
What's that? It's just squatting. The world is my oyster. I can't hear myself through the mic,
but why? Oh my God. I don't know if it's working. Guess why I'm here though, Linus?
I can literally see it. I can see him talking. Why can't we hear it? They can hear him. They
can hear him. So they're good. If they're good, I'm good. You're here to talk about the Larian
thing. Can they hear, like, is it coming from this mic or is it coming from something? Yeah,
yeah, yeah. Guys, I got it. Oh, there it is. Hey. I'm here to talk about Luke. Yeah. Because
you haven't let him talk about AI enough, except today you guys talked about AI a ton. So like,
what the heck? Well, I'll tell you what, while you talk about Luke, I'm going to go get you a stool.
What? No, no, no, no. He specifically requested no stool. I'm a non-stool user.
I'm like, you know how AI doomers are like, no AI ever. That's me with stools. He believes in no
stool ever. I think stools are trained on other people's work and their copyright infringement.
How about an apple box? It's basically just a chair. Stools are just chairs, but worse. Why would you
ever? He's getting you an apple box. No, I asked, okay. Now you're going to make me ruin the meme.
I asked Dan to remove the apple box. This is so much worse. Oh, but I do like, if I sit back here,
then I kind of look like I'm... You have dramatic lighting. I'm lit by two, hold on.
It's okay, I'm lit too. I'm lit by both sides and it's like I'm the duality of man. A neutral party.
Okay. So should I... Not AI generated left. Should I talk through this and then you guys can have
your conversation or how does this work? You can go. Sure. All right. Certain corners of the internet
lost their flip in minds earlier this week when Larian Studios CEO Swin Vink told Bloomberg...
Vinky. Yeah, of course. That's what I'm saying. Gotta be Vinky. Told Bloomberg that the Baldur's
Gate 3 studio uses AI tools to help explore ideas and speed things along early in the development
process. I hate how much of my life is reading text and then trying to say it out loud. And then
having an AI train on it. It's Vinky, right? I have no idea. Thanks. In the same interview,
Vinky made it clear. I like it. It sounds more like a pet name. It's gotta be Sven Vinky. It
can't be Sven Vink. I don't know. I don't speak Swedish. I don't know if I've heard it said out
loud. Vink sounds like a woodland creature. Google it and then you'll get one of the pronunciation
things. Vinky sounds like also a woodland creature, just way cuter and fluffier. Vinky? Yeah. Maybe
from like a fantasy world. Okay, it doesn't matter. The point is that Vinky made it clear
that there will not be any AI-generated content in Larian's upcoming installment in the Divinity
series saying that everything is human actors. We're writing everything ourselves. Jordan,
who prepped this topic for us, said, but that was toward the end of the article. So the odds that
anyone read that far, pretty low. Nobody has time for that. After the inevitable backlash for saying
anything even vaguely positive about AI, Vinky took to Twitter to try to clarify. This is a quote,
holy fuck, guys. We are not pushing hard for or replacing concept artists with AI.
The post notes that Larian employs 72 artists, 23 of whom are concept artists, and that they're
in the process of hiring more. Yeah, the concept art is really what this centers around. Vinky
also linked a GameSpot article from April of this year detailing Larian's use of machine
learning for tasks that he said, and this is a quote, nobody wants to do. This uproar has apparently
reminded people that Game of the Year winner Clare Obscure Expedition 33 was accidentally
released with AI placeholder art, which was quickly patched out of the game back in April,
adding an additional target for the rage of the anti-AI camp. Daniel,
Vavra, Vavra, whatever. Vulva, I think. Did you just say vulva?
It's what? That's not a... It's a biological term. Important landmark if you're trying to find certain
things. We're not going to get demonetized for that. The point is the co-founder of Kingdom Come
Deliverance 2 developer Warhorse also waded into the mess to defend Larian's honor, saying
this AI hysteria is the same as when people were smashing steam engines in the 19th century.
Vinky said Larian was doing something that absolutely everyone else is doing,
and they got into this insanely crazy sh** storm. Everyone else is doing it.
Vulva adds, I'm no fan of AI-generated art, but anyway, it's time to face reality. AI is here
to stay with us as frightening as it may be. That's the way it is. Now, I'm going to kick you
guys off by throwing back to something that Luke and I were actually talking about earlier in this
show. Larian sits at the apex of the curve. They're big enough that they're an attractive target for
the hate, but not so big that they'll just be like, what are you going to do about it?
All right, go. Yeah, one thing I was going to throw in just right off the bat is another game
that won awards, because right now we're talking about Larian who took a ton of Game of the Year
awards and many other awards, and then we're talking about Expedition 33, which won everything,
as far as I can tell. Another game that won awards, the Multiplayer Award of the Year.
Arc Raiders also has a ton of AI stuff going on. All of the movement of the AI enemies in the game
is all machine learning. Really? Yeah. And you can hear more about that.
We forgot to, did we even say that? That part's not in the video, but...
We can learn about something, but you can't learn about something. Yeah, yeah.
There's supposed to say that? Luke Week on Float Play, there's three episodes, one's a Q&A,
one's a gaming video, which is like a follow-up to the last gaming video I did on the first Luke
Week, and then the other video is something. It's us talking about AI, which is why I'm here,
and I felt bad that I didn't... I was like, we're here for Luke, but we didn't even do the call-out.
Just wanted to get that clear. It's Luke Week on Float Play, but anyway, machine learning,
Arc Raiders. Yes, so it's in a lot of places, and if you want to be mad at something for AI stuff,
as far as I can tell, the biggest use of it is largely in Arc Raiders.
but one of the problems is that everyone's throwing everything under the same banner,
and then it's kind of difficult because where's the line? Well, this is an interesting because
with Sven Winkie, on his tweet where he's like, guys, seriously, we're the good guys,
he links to a GameSpot article where he talks about how they use machine learning for the
kind of rote menial tasks that no one wants to do, but the debate isn't really around like,
oh, okay, you used AI to smooth out your mesh or whatever. I'm not a developer, I understand,
but stuff that isn't like, ooh, the artistry involved in that. It's just kind of like, okay,
you have to reduce the amount of polygons or whatever, and it's annoying. In a way, his argument is that it's actually accomplishing what a lot of people wanted out of
it, which is that it's allowing for people to focus more on the artistic stuff that they want to do
instead of the menial annoying tasks that they don't want to do, which is like...
But that's why the backlash isn't about the machine learning, the more traditional
what we called AI back then sort of. It's about the concept art.
The problem with Arc Raiders is people don't know where the line is. There's a lot of questions for
that thing looks like it might be generated, like generative AI generated, because there's
little like, what do you call it, greebles? What's the term for when there's just random stuff added
to things to make it look... I call them grubbles. This is, Star Wars is really not well known for
this. They just like, they'll put vents and pipes on things or whatever. Yeah, I know what is called
in the context of a garment, like an embellishment, but that's not what they're called. I think it's
babufrik. So there's a lot of babufrik. Greebles. Yeah, I don't know. Greebling. Yeah, it's like a
term. I don't know what it is. Babufriks though, I'm down with that. So there's tons of babufriks
in Arc Raiders, where there's just like a tube that'll go from one place to another place that
makes no sense at all. And people are wondering, was this someone just adding a tube because it
looks cool, which totally might be a thing? Sometimes they like tubes. Or is this just
generative AI just doing stuff? And it's, where is the line? What's going on?
The most interesting aspect of the debate here for me was
basically whether we are going to preserve the practice of like concept art. I think people
are scared that if you... Because the most concerning part was him saying, oh, for the
early concepting phase. Only in the early phase, we're kind of throwing ideas at the wall and
seeing what sticks. So like if we're like, hmm, would it be funny to have a frog with it wearing
a top hat or something? And then you like find an image of a frog or whatever and you tell
AI, I put a top hat on him and then they do it and they're like, hmm, it's not so funny. Maybe
we won't go with that, you know? It is funky. And the alternative to that would have been,
hey, a concept artist, can you draw a frog wearing a top hat? Now, I feel like in that
situation, I can easily see a concept artist kind of taking that idea and making a top hat
on a frog look funny and look interesting in a way that AI wouldn't be able to.
But couldn't a concept artist also put that prompt in and go, yeah, it's funny,
but I think I could do it better and draw something. Well, the counterpoint to that
is that you're basically like starting from... If you prompt AI and you get a result back and
you're like, hmm, okay, I'm going to do that but better or I'm going to like iterate on that,
okay, you're starting with a thought process and that's part of the human creativity engine,
but this is a studied phenomenon. People are more creative and they think better through
problems if they do it themselves from scratch or if they learn how to do it themselves from
scratch. And this might be a solution. This is the whole problem with AI. It's a solution to do
something faster, but you're probably going to get a worse output at the end of it.
And maybe even if, so if you have a super experienced concept artist today, they could use
potentially, they could use AI to accelerate a quality job, but if you are losing out on the
development of your ability to think through these problems because you've always had this crutch.
But then I mean, oh man, see now we're going back to the calculator argument, right? You won't
have a calculator in your pocket, so you need to be able to start things from scratch.
But yes, if a calculator had the result of like the cumulative output of human knowledge being
reduced, like in mathematics, if our ability to do advanced mathematics at the highest levels
was reduced because of calculators, maybe it has been. I think there's also a problem here
where you have the like the movie adaptation to a book problem where like once you've seen
the movie adaptation to the book, when you read the book, your brain is kind of filling in like,
oh, this is what this person looks like. This is what this place looks like, whatever,
where if you're just reading the book and never seen any of those references,
you kind of make it up yourself. I mean, if I've seen a frog with a top hat,
there are definitely people who are not susceptible to that.
I mean, I wouldn't have thought it would be possible to read the Hobbit and then create
such a shit movie. They've clearly completely reimagined that, not for the better.
Yeah, I think there's a whole other set of incentives and problems there.
Have you seen it? They recast Aragorn in the new Gollum movie. You guys haven't heard about this.
Because he's younger. Yeah, but Gandalf's in it. Like Ian McKellen is Gandalf in it.
Wait, what? But Vigo's too old. Anyway.
They should have just done it anyways. They should have just used Vigo. I'm pretty annoyed about that, but I mean, that is what it is.
I mean, the movie's going to suck anyway, so does it really matter?
Did you watch the War of the Rohirrim? I, yeah.
So bad. I couldn't make it through it. I really wanted to. It's funny because it's like, oh, Peter Jackson's returning for the Hunt for the Gollum movie.
So it's like, but that doesn't mean anything because he did the Hobbit movies and they're horrible.
Didn't he come in late? Didn't he come in late on the Hobbit movies?
Did he? I thought he came in to like try to save them. I have to admit that I don't, I know hardly anything about the Hobbit movies
because I went to see the first one in theater and I was like, this is horrendous.
I saw it also in 48FBS and I was like, this is horrendous. And I just didn't watch the next two.
I did the same thing. You did the right thing. I watched the next two because I'm a completionist
and masochist like that, I guess. But I don't think I saw them. They didn't get better.
Maybe I did, but I don't think I did. They didn't get better. Yeah. I would watch the heck out of like a fan cut and which probably exists.
I think there is one movie because I complained about this on Wancho a while ago.
Someone mentioned that. I think there is one. Yeah. Okay. I don't want to take us too far off the rails.
Back to AI stuff NVIDIA games. Yeah. I mean, like it's it's it's also a tough line because we're at a spot and I think
I think this has been addressed actually by potentially Larry and I'm not I'm not sure.
But we're at a weird spot where like a lot of people are demanding stances of different tools
and technologies that people companies really will not use and they're looking for people
to make permanent statements on those things and none of us have any idea what's going to
happen to the landscape moving forward and that could put companies that are actually going to
bother potentially responding to any of this and having open dialogues with people like Larry and
at potentially extremely disadvantageous positions in a field that is incredibly mind
blowingly cutthroat and competitive and you have companies that are not laying people off
that are actively hiring that are making games that people like and those companies are the
ones that are getting critically looked at when there's companies that are laying people off and
are in some cases known for using even more AI stuff and those companies are being ignored
in this case and it's just like I think we need better targets for this energy.
I saw a really good tweet because I can't be here very long. I saw a really good tweet
where someone's like gamers are like they don't want games to be delayed. They don't want
studios to force the developers to crunch either. They don't want people to use AI
but they also want the games to come out and play them and like it's like they can't have all of these
they want everything. Gamers are a difficult bunch. Yeah I take the opinion that like look
if you want to use AI for small parts that isn't like and like according to your principle you
talk about. No output. No output. Don't use the unaltered output you know never. Which is what
Larry is saying. If they want to do that as part of the pipeline you know go for it. I don't think
we should jump down their throats for that given how AI is here already. However I will have way
more respect for a company if they do everything without AI and take a friggin long time it's
just like is that possible? Do the economics work? Sorry. I was just gonna say that AI is I
don't know if anybody noticed this but AI in for a person who runs a company that has been to a
fault transparent and take instances on a lot of things AI is one of the ones that if you've
been listening very carefully I have never made any kind of commitments for Linus Media Group.
Four against I think. We like barely use it internally. Even when Microsoft came in here
and offered to replace all of the employees for free. Every single one of them. Yeah you were
like you know what not today. I'm trying to have a serious conversation and you guys are completely
taking it off the rails which is fine because I wasn't going to give an answer anyway. Honestly
this conversation was way more on the rails than it should have been
for me coming in here and I don't think I even have time to be part of the Mozilla one because
I feel like I wanted to combine those two with the Larian and the Mozilla because they're both
just being attacked. We can talk Mozilla but first I want to do something fun um so I had
you said he doesn't have time. Well no you guys you guys can talk about Mozilla. So there was a
little comment here in Floatplane from Vellisette that I had highlighted I wanted to talk about
yeah biggest problem here is that for a vocal minority it's binary. There's no nuance to this
conversation and that's one of the reasons that I haven't taken a stance because people are going
to expect me to take like a hard line stance when even if I did it wouldn't be something
that I could fully control anyway. I don't know if I even want to say this but hot take.
I mean there's there's companies like I there's companies like I don't remember the name of
the company behind it but they made silk song they're like three people. Team Cherry has like
three people maybe they can control for this. At bigger companies like Larian has hundreds
and and they're not even seen as like a big studio. All of those games if it's a binary
that you're looking at this set will be made with AI. I think I can be confidently say that
statement and I don't even if the even if the head of the company is like don't use it it's
still going to happen. Do you remember these are going to try to take shortcuts. Do you remember
when we had a minor controversy when one of our I had taken that one time.
No sorry I don't. I have no memories. You legitimately might not remember this one.
It's not ringing about it. So we had a minor controversy a while back where I had on Wansho
said that I didn't feel that in our industry working the way that we do and relying on ads
the way that we do that we should use adblock and I had made it a policy at our company that we
don't install it on our computers. Yeah and I got called out like a couple weeks later or something
for using adblock because I screen shared on something and I was using a laptop that
someone else had set up someone else had configured. That is a perfect example of what
you just said. How in a company of more than one person or even in a company of one person
someone can forget a thing that they said at some point and do something but especially in
a company of more than one person you can have a stance on something you can have an opinion
you can even have a policy but at the end of the day not everyone is going to follow it so you
could say no AI will make it into anything that we do all you want I had to I had to read a sponsor
spot that was clearly AI generated not that long ago because it was in the form of like rhyming
couplets with all the sponsor talking points and I'm like okay two things. One if you used AI for
this bad and two if you did this without AI double bad because what a waste of time
it was like passable but not good yeah it was AI okay there's one other thing. Some concept
artist is going to have a bad week and be really frustrated and have a deadline for frog with top
hat yeah whatever the like oh my god I just I can't get the pose right for some reason
but really generate okay cool yeah I can make that work whatever the artist equivalent of
writer's block is they're gonna use a tool brush block sure okay the other thing I wanted was you
guys were talking about greeblies or whatever and I was like oh I wonder what an AI response to
the right number of pieces of flair is like will it will it get the office reference or will it
will it come up with something so I typed how many pieces of flair is the right amount
and it literally is like new try AI mode search put that in your mind and get AI power responses
you literally gave me the AI response well whether I consented to it or not okay well I can
if you could not interested what the way the way no no it's a different thing the way is still like
what the heck the way they're branding all this stuff is so insane annoying to me especially as
like covering tech news and like it's like Google updated this and they have a new mode and I'm just
like and I have to read through and be like okay so this is like the other this is like the four
other things that they call like because they have Gemini they have Google regular search they have
Google AI overviews they have AI mode which is basically just using Gemini but like it's more
more searchy it's like all right so let's find out what this does sure it's like yeah it's okay so
now it just just comes up in a different interface it's basically Gemini except it's like what we're
doing here is searching the web for stuff yeah yeah so it's just Gemini but focused on search
yeah what this is such a stupid it was doing really well the running joke blah blah 15 pieces of
flair blah blah etc office space outside the film there's no set right amount of flair the term has
come to refer to other things including flair airlines baggage allowances no hey hey haven't
you ever taken a shot you know just like it took a swing and it missed that time yes it did it's
got a chutzpah good lord I wanted to say well I already said it okay well you wanted to talk
about the mozilla thing right do you have time okay I I really need to go but basically my main I
wrote this I wrote the tackling story Nate somebody a probationary employee wrote notes
they're almost done wrote notes for it and then I kind of edit the notes again but basically the
gist is that Mozilla got attacked because they have a new CEO fire fox is going to evolve into a
modern AI browser is what he said but he also really emphasized trust and user agency and stuff
and people like to jump down their throats for adding AI there were so many articles and and
tweets and stuff were like firefox is adding AI now I'm out guys firefox has had AI features
for a long time all the things that I listed and people have been talking about this all
text generation for accessibility translation automatic tab grouping link previews with summaries
chatbots in the sidebar an AI window that's currently in beta that you can open like a private
slash incognito window yeah and I noted that most firefox users haven't like may not have noticed
these because they're all optional features and you can turn them off and this is like something
that they're going to continue doing I feel like I'm coming out here and being like guys
don't be mad at AI like you know you can be mad at AI I don't like AI as just like on a on a
as on a principle but I understand that like what firefox is saying here as well is that
it's out of the bag it's out there and there if they don't add some kind of features in a thoughtful
way uh they'll be left behind and they are being left behind yeah I mean Vivaldi had that mic drop
where they were like here's our press conference there's no AI and then they like walk out a frame
and it's like yeah that's nice but you're like there's barely a Vivaldi yeah what's the Vivaldi's
market share you looking at ask AI I think it's like one percent but but firefox has gone from
30 percent around 2010 to like I think it's four percent or so on desktop and across all platforms
it's like two percent it's crazy yeah Vivaldi's like but like I also want to say the AI overview
though I don't know maybe you know I I feel like there totally could be a future where Vivaldi or
whoever is like hey all these browsers over like they're been overtaken by AI slop where the browser
that doesn't have any AI where the human browser and like it you know people go for that because
of that like that's their marketing angle you know and then if that becomes popular cool I just feel
like I don't like the jumping I didn't like the thinking that firefox is adding AI for the first
time when like you guys say that you're firefox users but you don't even know what the browser is
and and B like you know this is this is where we're at now I don't know and I think it's important
to understand like all of our various perspectives as we come into this like you know I'm both a
business owner as well as a creative like I don't use AI for writing not because necessarily it's
out of principle I can recognize how it could be useful for some people I just don't need it
um and I don't feel that it I don't feel that it makes even if it makes something that I'm writing
better what it can't do is make it more me at least not at this time you know if we could
train an internal LLM on every script I've ever written or edited maybe it could maybe it could
literally like perform some manner of like editing for me but a big part of how my brain works is
just like being kind of ADD and going in a different direction all the time you know Luke's
coming at it from he manages a team of developers where AI assisted tools have been just like
a thing everybody been doing it for a while for a long time this is his old you know Riley's
coming at this from a very like creative minded headspace as well so we're all gonna have wow
what I think I'm creative I think I think you're very creative Riley go on and anyone who anyone
who's watched your creative sponsor reads which are literally called that uh CSP creative sponsor
okay placement I was just doing a bit we don't have to I don't know what the p is I was wondering
creative sponsor production all right anyway the point is like this is our perspective and you
don't have to share our perspective but what you're going to have to kind of come to terms with is
that everybody is going to have a different perspective that is motivated by their own
personal interests and the people around them and what all of those things are going to need to mesh
with is that it's here it's happening the steam engine is not coming back you know the ice box
harvesting the ice from a cave or whatever refrigeration happened and we're not going to
do that anymore technically people still do that oh yeah people still ride horses too yeah but it's
a thing that people are very passionate about and they very much do but is not just like tiny you
know one two three bit studios that just like the process and want to do it and they do it and
that's fine just want to jump in I don't think luke meant like two bit studios like like crappy
no I mean amount of people cool yeah yeah so thanks for the clarification because yeah it has
kind of like a negative connotation oh yeah no I meant in a actually very positive connotation
I'm thinking again of team cherry I get it I got it three people yeah amazing game I feel like they
usually goes the other way that was interesting I'm just saving us here I don't yeah I don't know
that one he saved you from something yeah it's good you were about to be canceled right away
expressly probably not as major as the heart our incident but I yeah I I feel compelled to point
out before I leave I'm gonna leave now I feel compelled to point out the like I've in my attempt
to beat to straddle the line between both the blue and the red here you know to be the the one the
only one who walks in both worlds like ghost rider played by Nicholas Cage I I feel like I come off
as like two pro AI and I feel like I am very much in the middle life the way I the way I see this is
like alcohol legalization like or legalization sir most prohibition won't work yeah it's not
gonna work like it has to be legal so that it can be regulated regulated we aren't regulating well
and it won't be but I just feel like you can't put the cat back in the bag but we also don't have
to yell at the cat for being out of the bag you know every time it shows its face we have to be
like okay the cat is here I don't like cats but I'm not gonna the right thing I don't think either of
us are particularly like pro AI usage to be clear just I don't think any of us are now that way
yeah no I mean I think I brought out perfect centrist I think I brought up my open AI account
on stream a little while ago and I had like three or four chat Windows with it like it's
I don't use it but I also you know it's in the same way that okay we did an AMD ultimate tech
upgrade where one of the first things that we did was make a joke about how Colton's brother-in-law
has kind of serial killer vibes and then we went down to his garage to find a shovel so that we
could do a take of me talking about because he works for our customer service and I was saying
you know when you when you contact us he'll make sure you get taken care of and so we went to find
a shovel so he could be like patting the earth behind me as I did the line and in his garage we
found a tool that had a handle kind of like a hammer and then on the one side it had a hatchet
blade that was sharp on the end and on the bottom so it's like a two-sided like hatchet blade
and then on the other side was a meat tenderizer and so I so I found that that tool like processing
game couldn't tell you okay and and what I realized was it's for murder that's a really
that's a really interesting tool that could maybe be useful to someone it has the potential for great
misuse and it's not very useful to me and that's how I feel about AI you could use it for ice carving
it's like a it's like a hatchet meat tenderizer sure yep yeah yeah and you know hey power to the
hatchet meat tenderizer users if anyone knows what that tool is by the way I'm like super interested
to know I have to go okay thanks for joining us this was a much less chaotic experience than the
last time I crashed you guys yeah um so have we grown up with that is that good or disappointing
I uh it's both I feel like I like discussions but I also just like disrupting you okay well godspeed
bye oh it's not the best for the audio I mean okay fantastic it didn't look like this quite
but this is sort of the this is sort of the idea I think the tenderizing axe the tenderizing axe
that's wow and it sounds like a super weird like it's good band name yeah actually I like that clown
metal um anyway we should do sponsors maybe uh let's do our cw announcements oh we have cw
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while i just check something sure um i'm good thank you very much the RAM pocalypse continues
as RAM continues to rise as RAM prices continue to rise del Lenovo and framework have all announced
price increases and other changes due to dram shortage framework investment disclosure for
mr Linus Sebastian says their DDR5 memory configs for their diy edition laptops are going
to go up by 50 with possible plans to increase by even more later on del sent an email to internal
employees informing of price changes including their del pro and pro max notebooks going up
oh between 520 and 765 dollars for the 128 gig version or 130 to 230 dollars for the 32
gig models with trend force even predicting that del and Lenovo may be going backwards
and limiting devices to only have eight gigs of RAM and smaller storage community
uh discussion question good luck everybody how do you stay excited about tech it seems
like it's bad news after bad news uh whether it's hardware pricing shifting subscription
based models or even frustrating video game news what keeps you motivated to make tech content
well uh that's the world i think um i think it's bad bad news after bad news uh whether it's
pricing of things everything in the world searching to subscription based models or just
frustrating news about the things that we like uh i'm gonna i'm gonna come in here with a hot take
that may actually end up being a full video on the channel because this is gonna this is gonna
ruffle some feathers oh boy but i think that we in as tech enjoyers might just need a bit of a
perspective adjustment huh in the grand scheme of things and maybe this is again i'm coming at it
from my perspective right as a 90s kid a gaming computer was like started at thousands of 90s
dollars and today today in 2025 dollars thousands of dollars will get you a sick gaming computer
even in the midst of a rampocalypse there are other challenges that are putting pressure on
disposable income uh yeah i mean you can say it sucks but like if you compare it i don't think
saying we need a perspective adjustment makes sense though when when people's incomes are lower
relative to costs when things that are required for living like health insurance housing um food
all those types of things those costs are going way up a hundred relative money to spend on things
is significantly lower so we don't have the the luxury of spending that much on a on a for fun
computing device so let me may have had in the past let me expand on my point sure here's another
big difference compared to when i was a kid when i was a kid if you were using a computer from 10
years prior it was literal garbage it was but now you can you can play uh relatively modern games
like i i have told the story a few times or forget which game it was it might have been
our creators but i've been telling the story a few times about uh the son of a buddy of mine
who's playing on a 2500k and playing some modern game i don't remember which one it was um
so so here's the so so that's that's the thing is a kid of RAM way too expensive right now
am i paying so here hold on let me know you're making that video because i've been refraining
talking about the thing you're making that not the one you just mentioned but the the one i
messaged you about the marketplace one um possibly it turns out it might be stale already ddr4 prices
are skyrocketing and more importantly um like am4 x3d chips are skyrocketing apparently 5800
x3d's are going for like figuring this out i just was hoping we'd make the video before that but
so right now a 16 gig kit of RAM is around 200 us dollars what that means to the budget for like
the 550 dollar gaming pc that we built a little while ago that we did a video about with an arc
a GPU and a reasonably priced CPU uh kind of value power supply is that you'd probably be adding
about 100 to 140 dollars to that budget so today in the midst of the RAM apocalypse you can still
build like a high end 1080p mid tier 1440p gaming pc for like 700 dollars which is a lot of money
and stuff but compared to just about any other hobby tech and gaming have been more inflation
proof like name one name anything yeah this was this was a really interesting conversation around
yeah uh the price of video games going up yeah this is like is it really it's just i i don't
know i can fully understand people still being frustrated you're right 100 i think what you're
saying is fair but people's ability to buy it is still non-existent so it like doesn't really matter
well hold on like it can be as reasonable as it wants if i don't have the money to buy it it's still
annoying hold on hold on hold on because like yeah but you also don't need to buy something brand
new which is something that we have talked about so much on this channel so that's where
but then you're saying price increases for those things are happening as well uh yes if you go
after like the hottest items so if you want to buy like a 5800x3d sure but if you know what to look
for but if you know what to look for which is what we're here for right i feel like ddr4 RAM
though you're not really looking for specific parts everybody's just going to search ddr4
um it i don't know it's that it's the RAM that's as bad as the way that the
accompanying components are also going up so i need to i need to look into it some more
this is this is one of those ones that we've like we've kind of scrummed what we basically want to
talk about but we haven't sort of nailed down what the exact concept is for the script i mean i can
tell you this much a second hand kit of ddr4 is definitely going to cost you as much as like
60 to 70 less than a brand new kit of ddr5 which is a significant savings that is a meaningful
still like right right i don't know if it was right when but like relatively short after the
announcements of these like RAM issues uh if you went on like stuff like facebook marketplace
whatever you could get a lot of ddr4 for not a lot of money uh so many chat talking about ddr3
you're starting to get pretty old no i wouldn't go back to ddr3 yeah i don't i also don't think
it's necessary to go back to ddr3 uh it depends where you're at and stuff fire pandas ask watch
ask where are you pulling that from i'm looking at ebay right now um so yeah i don't know i think
it's um i think it's one of those i think it's one of those things where we can look at what's
going on where we've got the the covid crypto winter you know so we had the crypto winter
which was exacerbated by the covid silicon shortage and then we had uh basically a multi-year
sort of recovery from that that as soon as it happened literally i think it was three weeks
two or three weeks after we recorded the msrp pc video but we were like holy crap for the first
time in years you can buy a pc where every component is at msrp the RAM shortage hit right
and so we can we can look at this and we can go oh well building computers totally sucks and we
should never do it again yeah i know um or or hear me out just a second here
if we actually track compared to quite literally anything else right like look at what a board game
cost i think i just i i don't even necessarily disagree with you but i i would be remiss to
not point out that it doesn't mean it doesn't suck it doesn't mean that it's not going to push things
out of acceptable ranges for people of course it doesn't suck or of course it of course it sucks
it totally sucks i just i think your opening of like people need uh whatever it was reality check
or whatever it was so it's just not uh it's more that i i wish people were a little bit more
appreciative of the work that goes into keeping these things as affordable as they are we did
that recent tour of kyoksia their fab holy anytime you see a fab at all it's just like dude how the
hell do i buy one of these things for the amount of dollars that i get it for it's crazy it's amazing
and so i'm so basically what i'm doing is i'm i'm coming fresh off of off of the the actual
like literal miracle like the wonder of the world that it is that we can make a microprocessor at all
and then i'm going over into like i'm so angry that the five hundred dollar computer is now
seven hundred dollars when a five hundred dollar computer is a miracle in the first place and so
is a seven hundred dollar computer that doesn't mean you can't be annoyed about like constant
extreme collusion and all these other things going on but it is still yeah it is still neat
that our hobby is surprisingly cheap and the fact that the fact that over the last several years
we've gotten to the point where you literally do not have to give microsoft a hundred of your
dollars on top of all the hardware you bought anymore Linux that's so cool like can we just
can we just take a breath for a second it could be and look at the positives it could be interesting
to because i i think this event as hot as the used market has gotten it at various times it was
mostly just for gpus i think this event is going to crank the use market for practically everything
doing i've done some searching since i sent that message doing a scrapyard wars right now
would just suck i think to be completely honest but i i think it'd be interesting maybe if we
get the clicks but making a video on like how to try to validate hardware when buying stuff from
a used market i've done it best you can no one cared no one cares i try so hard to like bring
people to the like come on second hand water here and really good water here like i did that
you just got a drink i did i did a video called i solved the GPU price crisis or whatever where
basically i just like bought a 30 82nd hand and showed how to like you know what to look for to
not get scammed and how to how to test it and how to validate it before you take it home and like
and how to how to pick one that has like a transferable warranty and like basically yeah it was
like a mini scrapyard wars of just like buying a GPU to absolutely bombed video bombed tank no one
wants to hear it dude i was i was at willow yesterday yeah willow video in in langley based
used place and i was i was showing emma like somewhat of this phenomena because we were there
together i don't know if i think she's been there before i'm not sure but i was pointing out like
look there's spider-man 2 for ps5 right there behind the desk all sealed or there's spider-man
2 for ps5 right here on the other side of the counter unsealed and there's like a 30 something
dollar difference it's the same game come on and people will still walk in there and just buy
the new one it's like damn i can't i can't yeah i can't fathom it it doesn't um it doesn't compute
for me yeah um something that you probably can fathom even though it does also suck
NVIDIA reports a planned 30 to 40 cut in gforce GPU production in early 2026 it's being reported
that NVIDIA plans to slash that production uh you know of course it's being assumed that this is
because of the run on memory chips uh i think it's a lot more than that personally but okay
the reports come from the chinese board channels forum and news site bench life whose supply chain
sources claim that NVIDIA's production cuts will first hit the rtx 50 60 ti 16 gig and the rtx
50 70 ti oh the ones that are like yep well the 50 70 ti is the one that like kind of makes
sense in NVIDIA's lineup very cool we've used it for two recent build guides NVIDIA could use the GDDR
seven from those aforementioned mid-range cards to make more of their higher and more expensive
cards and ultimately make more money that's uh for sure part of it uh discussion question
how might this indicate NVIDIA's pulling a reverse AMD by only manufacturing gaming GPU is focused
on the top end of the market is that the future we have to look forward to what my ability to can
oh i see very good
i think they also just man don't care
i think they they feel like a requirement to care about gforce because of i don't know pedigree
history old times the the horse that got us here type mentality but i think it's a tenth of their
revenue now when is the last time they talked about it in a way that is like we care about this a lot
we care about raster performance and gaming even last ces it was all just like how much ai
enhances gforce yeah so why and then like look at how and you know i'm totally including myself
in this but look at how annoying we are compared to enterprise customers it'll just pay whatever
oh yeah and just want it as soon as they can get it and if there's like weird problems they'll just
like work with you on the higher engineers to do that fix it yeah um enterprise customers that
are getting crazy boku bucks investment dollars aren't gonna care and so they're spending someone
else's money yeah right a customer who is spending their own money is always which is going to be an
order of magnitude more difficult to deal with than a customer who's spending someone else's money
yeah always and especially when they're spending someone else's money to make money for themselves
and that that is like a default for companies at pretty much any scale because you're an employee
to company you're just spending your company money it's not as like you're not going to be as careful
with it but also especially at this scale where we're talking like uh hello yes i will take this
many like container fulls of graphics cards please um yeah just remember you know just try to remember
a little bit on the hopeful other side of this um how different companies acted and then if you care
vote with your wallets uh zirgon asked an interesting question how much has your badminton
inflated uh in compared to pc's over the time that you've been doing it so since i used to play
back at ncix badminton has gotten substantially more expensive rackets actually not too bad
so they have benefited from increased economies of scale and better mass production techniques
and and more automation probably not the birdies um actually shuttles are brutal yeah um so badminton
shuttles are that's what i meant oh i see are being impacted by a major worldwide shortage in
goose feathers specifically the ones off the left wing of the goose because the shuttle has to spin
a particular way and if you use the feathers from the right wing they'll spin the other way
and also court time so i'm going to shout out some of my buds who run or work at some courts in the
lower mainland when i got into uh when i got into badminton it was about 20 bucks an hour
to rent a court so ersc um where my buddy jason shum works uh they are now charging
30 that's weekdays before 5 p.m that is like that is like the garbage time the slow time
so it's 36 an hour so that's over a span of about so this would be about um the ncix times
just shy of 20 years so this is going back to like 2000 2008 or so why does it just say
what's up package oh oh yeah if you buy if you buy a bunch then you can get a yeah it's a slight
deal that's honestly not that much i showed up my buddy ringo uh how much does uh does a court
rental cut where the ringo where the heck is your court rental price wasn't that what we were just
looking at yeah it was a different site oh stringing service lesson faq where's your where's
your price ring go okay well i'm trying to oh court rental there we go all right it's hiding
wait i just call uh oh here we go here we go uh yep 34 bucks uh going up going up in january
clear one shout out my boy daryl uh let's see the yeah richmond
here we go so yeah 20 bucks has gone up to oh sure why not
oh my god uh got uh rentals what happened here we go court rental 30 bucks
uh and daryl's um if you can get a court there because he's really focused on training at his
facility uh he actually runs the training programs for us at smash champs i would use smash champs
as an example but what's the point of that that's a facility that i control the pricing of and that
doesn't doesn't have a long history but all of these places would have been closer to about
20 bucks an hour back in the day and a tube of shuttles would have been like 20 25 bucks whereas
now um a top tier yonex shuttle is like i think approaching a hundred dollars canadian retail
for like goose feather so very few people are playing with goose feather and like the lower
end ones are more like uh 40 plus you're talking a tube yeah yeah 12 12 shuttles yeah it's been
it's been absolutely brutal i was chatting with um a buddy who runs a bunch of clubs in taiwan
and he's like yeah this is gonna this has the potential to kill our sport if it just gets
too unaffordable would would people accept lower quality shuttles where are you talking
the court rentals um navy rymar says shouting out a competitor is based i don't i i have always
different view had a bit of a different view on competition i think that competition is healthy
i think it is good for the consumer i think that you can have competition without animosity
i think that you can have friendly rivalry do i compete with ringo and jason and darryl yes
can we collaborate yes there's also this idea that like if you all together make the sport
of badminton more popular in the area you just all win this is the the whole rising tide thing it
applies to so many different realms and people realize it's this is not um smash champs also
isn't in really you didn't open one next door yeah yeah and why would i different market why should i
yeah and i'll shout out my boy melissa whatever boy don't worry about it the point is umo pro shop
good shop we're competing with them hard we're probably going to go into e-tail and we're gonna
we're gonna compete with them online that's fine i can still respect the hell out of melissa's hustle
and and ideally you're bringing more people to space and we can both make each other better and
it'll be great everyone will be happy yeah and sometimes someone will not be happy and they
will get out competed but i think then they need to they need to reflect they need to look in the
mirror i i believe in healthy competition and if that's me then what i need to do is i need to
look in the mirror and i have to figure out how to do it better so yeah no i'm uh and i walk this
walk in a lot of healthy competition environments people will help each other compete against each
other often like it's because it's not about crushing the other party it's about doing better
and if you're all like just killing it it's very likely that your industry is just gonna grow
yes because if you're all actually doing that well it's probably gonna be an exciting place to be
for for consumers and everyone else there and your industry is just gonna grow and it's just
gonna be really good 100 yeah okay what do you want to talk about next i'm scrolling through
i can save my story time about nine bots terrible customer service for next week all right it's not
even terrible customer service their customer service was pretty good but i'm not happy with
the resolution we should talk about that but maybe yeah let's do that oh next week's probably also
not gonna be super long well we'll see how it goes okay uh my whole thing has changed i can just
do it at the normal time it's fine okay you do whatever works for you
oh what day of the week is it next week are we gonna be spending Christmas together on the
boxing day yeah 20 next year is Christmas day okay cool actually that'll still be fine
okay uh there's i mean there's the tech house plans there's a 3d printing farm uh oh
LTT sells fake ptm 7950 oh just kidding uh egor's lab published a review of our ptm 7950 titled
Linus tech tips ptm 7950 review original oem product or fake proud to say that we got egor's
lab uh badge of approval it's the genuine article thanks for the extensive testing and also uh
the the writers of this included a quote which i also love so i'm happy they included this quote
this pad is from the edge of the cake among the ptm 7950 products not intended for industrial
showcases but fully fledged powerful and in practice at least as good as what is otherwise
lying perfectly cut in the display and sometimes as i knew even as a child these are the pieces
with the best bite i actually love tldr it's all good um yeah i exchanged a handful of emails with
egor about this um you know from my point of view i i appreciate i appreciate his passion for the
subject that is what i can say is you know if there was ever a concern that you had that there was
nobody out there like obsessively validating thermal compound you can lay that concern to rest
because egor is obsessively evaluating thermal compound sick i wouldn't have thought it possible
to write a five page review of because it's it's just ptm 7950 like we just we're pretty
i i think as transparent as we can possibly be i did not develop a thermal compound no i do not
have the engineering and or manufacturing expertise or capital to develop an industry leading
thermal compound i accept that i i accept that about myself and my business acumen and resources
so what i did is i took a thing that exists already that someone told us was good and that we
validated we thought was pretty cool too and then really smart people have told us is really good
and then we made a box really skinny box it's so skinny it is a skinny box it's a skinny
colorful too it's got orange on it we made it three colors we put it right on there yep we did it
yep go read it um and uh and so i wouldn't have thought that it was possible to write a five
page article about our endeavors to put a box on a product that existed but he did it and with flare
as uh as as luke pointed out maybe even with the minimum 16 pieces of flare
i thought it was pretty great and honestly it's a it's a fair enough question
because apparently this is like a thing that it's faked often and it's like hard to find which
is why we sourced it in the first place difficult to get it from the official company and and and
all that jazz but we didn't um we we didn't source it from a fake source so there was there was no
concern in my mind that you know we were selling fake ptm 79 50 um yeah but if someone's asking
the question i appreciate that you gore answered it yep yep i mean i uh yeah that's good nice
and sick quote it's so awesome it's actually just a great read
are we talking about your wikipedia article in Floatplane chat right now yeah i didn't know
this was the thing yeah i uh i caught this earlier this week uh so someone attempted to
create a wikipedia entry for mr luke lafrenier um who was declined for not being notable enough
but i actually take no hold on a second i actually what's it actually which one's that
where's that one that that's what people said on reddit i actually don't see that in the uh
that's funny though hold on that is they do not show significant coverage about the subject
yeah yeah basically yeah pretty much based um however however however i actually i i think
that that might be a self promotion issue for you so one of the things that makes someone
notable is how often they've been covered in third party media but we've talked about this
a fair bit in the past where i will often get like spam to my inbox that's like hey we're
publishing a list of the top 10 tech influencers or you know the top most influential people in
in technology and media or uh social media or whatever um do you uh we'd love to include you
that'll be five hundred dollars or whatever so uh i actually strongly believe
that with a little bit of effort you are very influential with a little bit you're saying i
could i could very broadly known by influence i think we just i think we just need to play the
game i just think we need to play the game a little bit you know if it's third party sources
that they need which is what i'm seeing here the only thing that i think they need to include
is the handling of the the hard hard event and then you'll have infinite third party sources yeah
well i mean you don't want your entire wikipedia article to just be like he's saved minus his
company yeah but that's what that's what gets it through the door and then you can add the fun
stuff what is it like early life rise to fame strife downfall notable controversies
yeah controversy and then and then array one two three four five six
i don't know i think that with a little bit of effort and i'm gonna throw this i'm gonna throw
this back to the community a little bit oh no we could maybe you know we could maybe
prod some publications or maybe maybe just uh you know get get some invitations get some
invitations for interviews no no like being interviewed by people is important okay like
i'm trying to remember because i i my initial couple of those the community tried to get me
on there a number of times before they ultimately succeeded and i don't remember what the threshold
was but it was also i was rejected for not being notable until such time as some arbiter of who's
notable on wikipedia decided i was notable right i mean here's something that here's
something that could potentially um that could potentially understand like if there's a wikipedia
page for everyone then it just gets a little bit ridiculous yeah that's and that's fair enough
yeah should we should we talk about the thing i don't i'm not offended by this uh talking about uh
what you know the thing 30 minute warning this might not be the show i'm not even i just i think
it's maybe not i think we do it the one after next week maybe dr gizmo says the thing so that we
have more time luke 103 says yes we haven't done after dark crystal says crystal says thing
i'm just saying i think there's not time i think we do it the week after next week
i'm not even i don't think i'm but we have to do after there's merch messages i'm sure we have to
do after dark and i suspect that might end up i suspect that'll either be a very short
or very long conversation have people even have we even told people how to send
merch messages yet no like this one crap this is what i'm talking about this we're gonna have
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how merch messages work sure hey dearlo when considering the tech house were you afraid
that having the easiest house would affect your ability to make entertaining and more quote on
quote universal upgrade videos for others to watch no because um there will be in my mind the tech
house is just the beginning in my in my mind we we we take town no in my mind tech small city
interesting rv park oh in my in my mind this is just the first one
so we want i wanted to it's just like i said at the beginning of the video i wanted to have
something that is somewhat relatable that people could follow along at home a bit where we have
to solve real world problems you know we're gonna have to be we're gonna fish wire up through
through walls we're gonna we're gonna solve real problems whether we do it intentionally or
unintentionally because like we might i'm honestly really excited for this we might pull a bunch of
the drywall off to make it easier to run a lot of the wiring and then we might realize that
oops we got to run another one and we're gonna have to figure that out we're gonna what if you
find a mold then we're gonna have to solve that oh my so we're gonna it's gonna be challenging
i'm not worried it's not going to be challenging enough but i did want one where i kind of had
a pretty good vision of like what it kind of might look like and how we might tackle these
challenges if this goes well if it's a huge success then i could totally see us doing
something very similar with a condo something very similar with a more challenging house you
know with uh with a rancher that's right on a slab where we have to like really dig deep and
find solutions uh no i'm i'm super excited about it and i think it's going to be flipping awesome pun
intended um
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dark territory but um a school security ai flagged a clarinet as a gun and apparently it was
supposed to do that a florida middle school went into lockdown after an ai security system
flagged a student's clarinet as a gun sending police rushing to the campus for what they believed
was an active shooter situation officers later confirmed there was no threat and the weapon
was a band instrument carried by a student in a holiday costume the ai system made by zero eyes
scans security camera footage for firearms and alert school officials and police despite the
false alarm the company said the system worked as intended arguing that it is better to act on
uncertainty than to risk missing a real threat a position the school appeared to support critics
say that incidents like this highlight the risks of ai-based school security pointing to past cases
where similar systems have mistaken harmless objects for guns and caused panic they argue the
tools are expensive unproven and may increase stress and police confrontations rather than
improve student safety sending a bunch of extremely high stress people with firearms into a situation
where they think kids are being shot at because of a mistake well i support this because i just
played hate the clarinet i'm just i'm kidding it was just a joke but we need to move on anyway
hopefully it was uh called off before they got there um yeah anyways uh a former amazon oh you
know what let's do this one next week too okay yeah i mean there's a lot of topics yeah i don't
know what happened because i thought you message saying there was like none i did and i don't recognize
a lot of these they weren't you say that every single week i do not say that every week i just
say it a lot though every week that's not true oh there's no topics i have not seen this facebook
one facebook has apparently tested limiting users to a maximum of two shared links per month
unless they pay for meta verified uh links in only two organic posts per month if they're not
verified users who hit the two link limit are prompted to subscribe to meta verified if they
wish to share additional external links they are in the business of getting scammers to pay the money
we talked about this earlier in the show maybe it's just more of that the trial currently focuses on
a subset of independent creators and pages that are using professional mode notably traditional
news publishers are excluded from this specific test for the time being though it is worth noting
that in many countries um they can't share news on facebook due to attribution and compensation
laws that meta doesn't want to deal with anyway okay cool that was all i had to say about that
facebook sucks cool um let's move this one to next week i'm just going to highlight it
next week this is weird sure go for it uh youtube is letting creators make playable games with a
gemini 3 tool youtube is testing a new feature that lets creators build yeah uh the the project
called playable's builder is launching as an open beta for select creators the tool works through
a web app that lets creators describe a game in plain language with no coding required youtube has
already been experimenting with small games on its platform since 2023 and added multiplayer
support last year so this is an expansion of that idea with ai doing most of the setup work
youtube says that the goal is to make quick bite sized games that viewers can play inside youtube
why on on desktop or mobile not full-scale releases think simple interactive experiences
rather than polish story driven titles or console style games critics point out that while ai can
help generate basic game mechanics making a game that's actually fun usually takes iteration design
skill and human judgment because ai can create a game doesn't mean people want to play it
okay okay so it's like really bad frog game i guess but you're blue now nice
so it's gaming slop you are running in dirt so the name of the game seems oh that was it i
can't tell what are obstacles and what are died yeah um okay well that was something
uh cool i um i guess for me the big question is why yeah that's for sure that's my same
question as well netflix tried games i don't think that worked out mm-hmm i don't feel like youtube
needs games study zone my new task is to finish the WAN Show like what am i i do i check it off
achievement unlocked first steps my like biggest concern about youtube right now is that they seem
to be pushing towards shorts quite a bit and oh god it's so much it's getting so bad are literally
called by a lot of people like slop or brain rot or something else like that
and youtube was always known as a like wholesome community platform that is awesome is questionable
but definitely community no in a lot of ways i think it's seen community and wholesome i think
have a lot of paired connotations this is my homepage right now an ad it is more than half
shorts two live streams five shorts that's all that's above the full zero vods i get three vods
one of which is an ad so that i can shop i get this youtube playable garbage stupid then i get
another live stream finally a vaude and oh my god i got rick rolled that is the first two no no no
that's a mix these keep coming up as well more shorts it's a mix it's different more ad the rick
roll is like something different it's not like a video full width ad like this sucks and i'm
worried that youtube is going down a not good path in regards to i've raised this it's it's like
future legitimacy i've i've raised this i've uh the ability for outside companies to
encroach on its part of the internet i i i um i can't raise this any more often than i already
raise it you're dumping mud into your own moat like
how about just let someone else be the brain rot platform and you can i think you can have
shorts on it i don't think shorts existing on youtube is the problem i think it's the promotion
level of them make trying to make it the primary part of youtube i think is actually a very very
bad idea um yeah so the point where if you really want to do that i almost think it should be a
separate app anyway i'm trying to do too much you're trying to be a gaming platform you're
trying to be v shorts platform trying to be a live streaming platform trying to be a valid
platform trying to be a post comment thing platform trying to be tv and what i mean by that is like
old school tv um not the fact that it's on a tv to be clear um it's it's rough i have within the
last like year i think i've never heard so much negative sentiment about what youtube is yeah
and what i mean by that is again attaching to words like brain rot ai slop things like that
i've never heard that type of stuff generally people are very positive about
what youtube is and might be very negative about things that are on it or how aggressively they
monetize it sure something like that but youtube at its core everyone was always very positive
about and then that is now changing and that's a and they resisted the urge you know back when
vine was a thing youtube resisted the urge to just be vine or be snapchat or be you know whatever more
digestible rapid fire content was you know they didn't have to add you know DMing they didn't
have to add you know short form vertical videos that you can swipe through they they really didn't
have to add this game they really didn't have a lot of of extreme addiction actually extremely
bad for you things yes people would spend way too much time on youtube whatever and yes that was
their business model and still is for sure but there are rather extreme levels of manipulation
when it comes to short form content which is like actually bad for your brain and like extremely
hijacking dope and numeric blah blah blah things that i don't understand go watch someone else
talk about it i don't anything about medical stuff please don't hate me uh it's it's yeah there you
go but it's it's it's they're not they're not like good for us shorts are highly questionable as a
thing and algorithmic tuning too was was something that i feel like they were more thoughtful about
in the past i remember having a long conversation with them back when you remember that trend when
it was just red hot knives cutting through things was like half of the stupid videos and the other
half were like how many how many m&m's can you flush down a toilet yep and i was basically like i
talked to them i was like look i'm not just sitting here whining and moaning because you know my more
technical actually requires a little bit of cognitive load content is like getting fewer
views right now obviously that's a concern for me i do wish to be promoted uh you know on the
platform right but if your bar is going to be that anything that doesn't get the click through
if you are this platform now gummy bears in a toilet or or red hot knives cutting through
watermelons or or pieces of feces or you know whatever whatever it is if i can achieve that
level of click through then i just like don't get my videos served is that going to be good
for your platform in the longer term is that going to be good for the creator ecosystem that you're
trying to build where people can have predictable stable performance that allows them to hire people
and build businesses is that what you want and i feel like they've lost track of youtube felt
like it was being built for the forever and right now again over the very relatively short period
time maybe a year somewhere around that it really feels like they are it's been rough diving extremely
hard for the short term which is not a game they even need to win they were effectively 100%
of the market share of the forever video platform win that you already had every eyeball of everyone
on the planet basically you know how they they stopped reporting like user change because it was
effectively population change yeah like dude you won please don't grasp defeat from the jaws of
victory it's not necessary and you can still not do it in other news the chat gpt app store is here
open ai has opened up app submissions for chat gpt letting developers publish apps
that run directly inside the chat bot and appear in a new app directory these apps can extend
conversations by taking actions like ordering groceries building slide decks or searching for
apartments without leaving chat gpt oh good developers can build apps using the apps sdk in
beta and submit them through the open ai developer platform approved apps will begin rolling out next
year and can be discovered through chat gpt's tools menu or triggered directly in conversations
for now monetization is limited to linking out to external websites or apps while open ai says
that it's exploring future options like digital goods all apps must follow safety and privacy
rules that shouldn't be too hard with clear data disclosures and easy ways for users to disconnect
canva expedia spotify and trip advisor are already available with app integration although the new
store is being launched with an open call for developers to put new apps on the platform
cool um i really just don't want to talk about that so why don't we do some rich messages yeah
sounds good
ham netics says number one selling out girlfriend no way is that true
no it was a mrs uh krabapal honk uh they're calling me a goose
this is this is why i have to play on my phone the whole time and the way it takes too long
okay yeah i got a couple here for you let's see hey Dan tell Linus and luke i say hi uh calder
says hi technically you did that yourself i recently programmed some automation dockers
and without chat gpt it would have taken four times as long are there any better ways to
learn to code or my stuck with chat gpt luke's face
i can i can feel the the cringe from here man i mean uh man i really enjoy this person's channel
sometimes when they release videos because i think there's big gas between them but i might be wrong
i might just not see them that often but um basically homeless we've talked about him on
my show before yeah i'm certain he had a video out recently that i i thought was fantastic
which is this one i tried switching to Linux for yeah there's some big gas for new videos okay i'm
not crazy um the i tried switching to Linux for 157 days very interesting video uh fun ads um
used to youtube premium so whenever i see ads on youtube i'm like what that's not allowed yeah um
but yeah great great video in general go watch it but um one of the topics that he brings up
is that the accessibility of running Linux is actually kind of a lot higher thanks to if you're
like hey i'm having this problem and it's like oh just copy paste this into command line and you're
done and it's like oh cool command line's a lot less scary and i mean there's questionable things
about letting you know ai run your command line but a command line is a lot less scary when you're
just you don't have to learn what every little part of the command means when you're just copy
pasting it um it's a it's a very it's very interesting video check it out um and in the same way this
makes it easier for you to do what you're doing but it's questionable whether you're actually
learning are you actually learning actually learning coding yes i and if your goal isn't
necessarily to actually learn it okay yeah you can also prompt things in a way where you make it
like you know don't actually give me the answer yep just like you like you can make it try to
teach you but it won't do that by default no and i think the vast majority of people are not using
these things in that way so like if we're being realistic um in a lot of ways it's actually stopping
you from learning the thing and again that might be okay depending on your objective um but yeah
i mean there's who's ringing uh that's me sorry um it's it's um i don't know there's lots of
there's a what's that one company i've heard they're cool they do like larion yeah um no it's i
don't remember what they're called but they do there's like a very gamified way of learning to
code how pathetic is it that i'm sitting here struggling to think of another cool company
oh the ones that have the kind of like friendly cano do they still exist maybe that's it i don't
know a lot just said boot.dev i i don't know much about them i haven't used their service i've heard
about this one i've heard they're cool this is the kid version i think i was thinking of boot.dev
but i think this is the kid version okay just scratch have like a learning thing i think it does
but that's a little that is that's a little before programming it is very intro but if you
haven't done any learning yet on programming scratch is really cool you can actually do some
surprisingly good things to scratch um i think it's turning complete
but so it's powerpoint sponsored by boot.dev before okay i don't know i don't pay that much
attention that isn't why i brought them up to be clear but yeah i think it's kind of a need idea
to to make it kind of a game so that it's fun especially if you're doing this just for fun
i know we've done spots for boot.dev yeah i just didn't remember
coden game somebody said coden game i don't know yeah there's like
near infinite ways to learn how to code these days there are so many different services that
you can subscribe to that have cool different angles on it there's tons of free information out
there there are youtube tutorials more than you could possibly imagine with dynamics there's
everything yeah go for it that one that was like the 11 hour godot tutorial amazing video incredible
unlimited knowledge yeah all right any long-term plans either partner or partner with or create
your own brick-and-mortar presence for LTT Store products if memory serves did microcenter have
the screwdriver for a while how about a best buy um retail partnerships are tough because
this may surprise you but retail um requires significant margin on the product that otherwise
we could take for ourselves um and retail also has a lot of baggage uh retail especially with
relatively small entity like us will demand very challenging purchase terms um so they'll
pretty much say yeah we'll pay you when we feel like it um any returns you will simply
eat them we will just destroy them we will not bother to return them to you and things could
be returned for reasons as trivial as a little dint on the packaging and um
yeah like it or lump it and if we had the kind of clout that we could negotiate a better deal
than that or if we had really deep margins on our products then we'd be able to absorb that
but there's a reason that the direct-to-consumer model works um and so we we looked at it pretty
recently and based on sort of our anticipated we haven't talked to anyone about the specifics
but based on our anticipated expectations for the margins and the and the oh yeah loss too
like there's a lot more theft in a retail location than there is in a secure warehouse
somewhere um and they're not going to eat it we're probably going to end up eating that too so
that one i don't know for sure but i do know the other ones at the point is just that
it's um we we did the we ran sort of some preliminary estimated numbers and we compared
that and it would probably cost us less to just subsidize shipping on our key skews versus to
give up the margin and overhead of having them in retail there's a reason the detail is competitive
yeah oh i line us in luke do you think we will see another in another couple years of game
performance stagnation because the user base will be running older hardware longer
like what happened during covid i.e ps4 and ps5 um the performance stagnation is an interesting
for me it's it's it more comes down to because there's always a cycle right with with consoles
and you're going to see a new console is going to come out that's going to push the boundaries in
terms of what game developers can can build to run on it and then for a while there will
be pretty much no point for any cross-platform game targeting anything other than sort of
approximately that but plus or minus some bells and whistles um and then you'll get a new console
and there will be like kind of a two to three year leg as games that were actually started
development targeting that console start to come out and then you'll see sort of a benefit to having
a higher end pc there so that that's part of it but the other part of it is that for i feel like
almost kind of two super cycles now we've reached the point where the gating factor is just how much
bloody work it is for developers to build bigger and bigger games you can't just expect a bigger
prettier game every time unless the company is you know rock star whether it will spend literally
the better part of a decade working on a game i don't have hundreds of millions of dollars you
know i don't know if you want to say it's a bigger game but uh looking at again embark studios for
for art graders in the finals um those games run really well actually and like look pretty great
so it's still possible i think there hasn't been a ton of incentives for companies to focus on that
in a long time yeah that's true and that might be changing a little bit maybe potentially i don't
know RAM i was wondering what the impacts on chrome like does chrome development change a little bit
because of RAM limitations right like if your product just isn't competitive because uh the
install base i would rather use some other browser that's less memory hungry i don't think that's
going to be enough to destabilize chrome just to be clear but it's it's just an interesting
thought experiment of like we're we're hearing companies significantly limiting RAM on devices
like i wasn't wasn't wasn't one of them limiting to eight gigs eight gigs in 2026 bruh dang yeah
that's not great like that's i can get chrome to eight gigs real fast there's also man another
major factor is that the lead times on all this stuff is so long that if i was starting the
development of a game today i wouldn't even be accounting for the RAM shortage nope by the time
i release my game the RAM shortage will be in the rear view mirror so yeah and and then anything
that was already started is going to be wasn't accounting for it anyways you can tune you can
optimize i i i don't i don't think that it will be a major factor i also don't think that your
even your premise um is is necessarily correct uh NVIDIA's gaming revenue is up 30 so this entire
premise of that everyone's running older hardware so you know you know they're they're
specifying ps4 and ps5 because games often target console performance they see they say older heart
like what happened then no no they're saying it's happening now because of prices going up
we'll be running older hardware like what happened during covet ie ps4 and ps5 yeah so so i don't
people are not not buying computers right now they are and the thing that i talked about earlier
where like i understand why people are angry that RAM is more expensive and that's totally valid
but like buying a computer relative to everything else around us in the world is also
more affordable than ever just like tv's tv's and computers have been
shockingly inflation proof over the entire span of my lifetime to the point where
i feel like we just take it for granted we can't so i guess maybe that's what i didn't explain
very well earlier is that's maybe that's a better maybe that's the perspective adjustment we need
is like do not take this for granted the fact that things are as good as they are is actually
a modern miracle it could be so much worse we know it can be and we're looking for it to get back
there we wish it were better but it could be so i think the i think that don't take it for granted
thing is probably a stronger angle personally um all right last one i got for you today hello
wan dot dl l i've heard a lot of debates surrounding msp's and whether or not they are effective
what are your opinions on using an msp instead of doing everything in house medical services plan
man and service provider i think is what they mean
so like out of house it is i think what they're referencing
i've heard places that have done it very effectively i've also heard a lot of stories
of places switching to something like this and then being like oh no it's really bad and then
trying to go back to what they had before but now they fired all their people so they can't get
those people back because they've gone other places now and then things are just your tribal
knowledge yeah um i think at large companies a mix probably makes a decent amount of sense
okay comments in in chat really on we have an msp it effing sucks vanok working for an msp i want to
die uh fox jicon i worked for a m msp nope uh yeah i think i think the like oh we can just outsource
everything put everything in the cloud and nothing has to be local anymore ever even people um that
whole idea didn't turn out as well as people hoped and there's a there's a there's a pretty big
benefit to just having your own it people that understand your space understand your environment
know your people and yeah and can adapt things well and understand the needs of individual people
and like people who might be working in different departments doing specific things etc all right
unfortunately everyone i have a heart out right now i've got to go and um and i got work to do
nice yeah it's so weird when we do when early it is extremely strange my brain starts to shut
down actually it's like not good oh it's like conditioned yes like we have not missed a friday
WAN Show since like the start of covid lockdown yeah like it's been five years so on friday when i
say the thing yeah which hasn't been said yet hasn't been said don't do it i like i have this like
energy letdown that is like relatively extreme actually yeah i don't know how to not go lock
up the building yep and like go home and sleep it's weird yeah it has happened where i've just like
wandered for a second and then been like uh oh yeah i guess i'll go to my desk yeah well it's
super trippy very odd yeah it's probably the same for a lot of them too actually wouldn't be surprised
like if they're used to the wen show at a particular time in their times on just being like the ritual
yeah because like i mean it's you know we're not like the biggest live stream in the world or
anything but there's like probably a solid 10 000 people watching and i would say out of those just
based on the names that i see a lot of a lot of regularity yeah there's a lot of people for whom
the wen show is like part of their friday routine yeah it's just like yeah we'll try to get back
to a more regular schedule it's just q4 and the holiday season and all that stuff will things have
been a little wild yeah well we'll try we'll try and get things going for you and we'll see you
again next week same bad time same bad channel bye