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Hello everybody, how's it going? How are you? Merry holiday thing. I hope yours is going

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well. I'm reading up on this on this hilarious topic. Pre show. Come join us, Sammy.

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Oh, I mean, you may be able to do that too. I suspect he can flip that over. Maybe complicit

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in this crime. Yeah, no one knows me. It's only a hand. Oh, and I'm just gonna. You said

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your name like 15 times. It's all my legal names. That's true. That's why in all the

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credits of full playing, you'll never see the word Sammy on it. Do people get confused

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by that? Should I say it? Sorry. Yeah, sure. I just kind of came here so I can get a shot

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of Lance walking in. You could do that from his chair. Yeah, I know. Like you have been

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usurped. Yeah, I've been, yeah, it's Asian Linus. You know, you know, in that video,

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the national intro, Linus commented, you caught me at a very Korean time in my life. I was

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probably the funniest comment I've seen in my life. I know you think it says something

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about like Linus being more like, I don't like not white and then they're like, you

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caught me at a very Korean time in my life. That's funny. That's what Linus said. Yeah.

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Go on the go on the wancho. Go on the comments of the when you were faking. When was that

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October 31st? Okay. Wow, we were really, it was really on Halloween, wasn't it? Yeah.

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It was meant to be. I'm trying to believe hard not to swear. I swore in front of Linus's

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kid by accident. Linus looked at me with the widest eyes I've seen in my life. He does

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that. We're talking about volleyball and I got excited. You're that passionate about

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volleyball? I played like, I think three hours of volleyball and my legs are dying. I'm gonna

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have really bad knees when I'm like 60. Yeah, and that was enough to like swear in front

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of children. Yes. Usually I'm really got swearing because I used to be in like customer service

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for like a financial. So how far how far do things have to go before you just started

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swearing? Oh my God, my knees. I just get anxious. You know, I'm just an anxious guy. So then

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once people start talking to me, I get like, oh, unless I'm in like customer service mode.

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You know, do you have a customer service mode? Yeah, it activates on wancho only. For some

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reason, I can't turn it on in front of like Linus's kids. Yeah, because I have also sworn

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in front of Linus's kids. But wancho for some reason will just and I don't I don't like

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mentally shift at all. It just happens. I have like my like pitch off my like octave

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my speaking pitch goes up like four like, Hello, sir. How are you today? Oh, no. Yeah.

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No. Yeah. Mine's like no. And then I will always fake people's names. So I'm like, Hello,

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the good sir. You know, holy crap. It's my favorite comment. That's actually hilarious.

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This is tough. This is tough. That is wild, dude. That is so sick. I actually love that

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that's a thing. You met me at a very, oh man, Korean time in his life. He can really be funny

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sometimes. I have one ever 1000 jokes. He says one's really good. Yeah. Yeah. How are people?

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I saw something about Luke week. Oh, I know I lost it. Nevermind. How are people? Yeah,

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what do you guys think? Yeah, what do you think about the video? I asked I asked discord like

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when you guys want uploaded for before my an afterware. Wait, is it up? Yeah, it's up. You

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commented first. Yeah, but I commented first while I was unlisted. Oh, I come to the first

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like a long time ago, dude. Cheater, cheater, pumpkin eater.

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It got pinned. Oh, yeah, I pinned it. Sorry. I pinned it. Luke is six, seven. Yeah, he did. He

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did this thing. I was like, haha. Yeah, I didn't intention. No one in our audience, no one in the

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comments recognize it. Luke, we was fantastic, but we want to answer is when Sammy week, never.

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I never it will never happen because I don't want I hate editing myself.

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I don't like watching contents that I'm in. I'm like, I like your video game outlook by

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too lazy to name. Interesting. Yeah. Is there a full plane discord? Yes. I think if you

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okay, don't I'm not 100% right. I don't think but it's like if you link the discord and the

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connective full plane, I think I think I'm wrong to be honest. Java juice probably knows better.

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I like, I like what is it? I lurk there always. It's always interesting to see what people talk

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about in that chat. This is very interesting. I'm going to talk about a top comment right now,

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right now, right now. I'm going to talk about this breaking news, breaking news. Here my moo

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who arc Raiders could be such a top, top game, but it isn't what it could Jungle. It's not because

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it has PvE. It's not because it has PvP. It's because you lose your gear. If you're taken out by

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an unfriendly arc, or wait, it's not because you lose your gear. If you're taken out by an

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unfriendly arc or Raider, it's because the two predominant tactics used for PvE play are exclusively

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camping around extraction sites and picking off people as they try to extract or spamming the

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don't shoot emote at someone and then blasting that someone in the back as occasional tactics.

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These wouldn't be a negative issue, but they are so dominant that not only has it created a

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huge self-perpetuating atmosphere of distrust amongst Raiders, it also threatens to overshadow

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and nullify the PvE elements of the game. I wouldn't want to ban or prevent any currently

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permitted tactic from our graders, but I would like to see embark come up with some gameplay ideas

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that help the balance things a little more so that other elements can shine again,

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like they used to. Cynicism and endemic distrust isn't really a great recipe for

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properly long-term prosperity in a game. I think that's a hot take. Edit! I'm a big fan of

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many of Luke's takes on Wann and elsewhere, but his misty-eyed waxing about the common place

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occurrence of Raiders teaming up on Arc shows that when he says he hasn't really gamed much lately

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because of home renovations, he really means it. Well, low and bold, commenter! I have a computer

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again and have been an extreme degenerate over the last week and have played many games and

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almost all of them have been Arc Raiders, and I have not had your experience. In one game,

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one game that I did record and sent to Sammy, I had three different emerging experiences with

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four, at least three or four. One of them, somebody just said hi. Another one, somebody

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came up from behind me while I was fighting Arc and was like, by the way, I found a gun,

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do you want it? And then walked me over to the gun and gave it to me, no problem. And then

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a few people were just kind of like standing around, and then we fought one of those, I don't remember what they're called, leapers, I think, the big black four-legged spider robots. And then

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we fought that and then all looted it all friendly. And then after that, as I was extracting,

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some dude was like, oh here, by the way, here's a bunch of like really valuable loot. Have fun,

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I'm doing my expedition thing now, and then left all in one match. This stuff happens,

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it's a PvP game, but I think the risk of these things happening is where the magic happens. You

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need, I didn't, I script could have been a little bit longer. I was running out of time, but that's,

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I think it's actually like super important that that negativity is there. But anyways,

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it's a good comment though. Thank you for commenting. Why is there,

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I just want to say that comment, I think the longevity is good. Yeah, I think it's a good,

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it's a good mechanic for longevity. I agree. Actually, you need to get better. You need risk.

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There's a reason why it has PvP and people are going to be crappy in PvP, but that, that takes,

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it makes it so that there's this, there's this like rise and fall constantly. It makes it,

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there's risk, there's tension all the time. If once you got to an extractor is like whatever,

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I mean, I'm getting out, who cares? Then there's no, I appreciate that comment. Me too.

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Yeah. Civil comment. No, it's a great comment. I think it was really good. I'm not trying to

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dog on the comment. I just don't necessarily agree. Are we pre streaming right now? We are.

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I just need a minute. Sorry. You're good, brother. He wrote his passion. Yeah. Again,

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it's a good comment. I like discourse. It's a, I think it was very low. I just,

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I just, it's not my experience, but if it's yours, here's what it is.

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Nope. I'm good. Thank you very much. Hey, congrats. What? That's crazy, isn't it?

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Nice.

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Someone said like Luke confirmed reads comments. Yeah. Yeah, I do. I do.

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Yeah, I've never heard of that. So maybe send in a support ticket. I can't like people often

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tag me and like, Hey, this thing is working in a certain way like during when, which is probably

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the hardest time for me to possibly address any of that information. I don't know. Sorry.

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But if you send in support ticket, we will see it. It is, it is significantly more effective

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to send in a support ticket than to tell me stuff during when and it's very easy to send a

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support ticket. You don't have to, you know, we're not avoiding them like some companies.

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You can literally just email us. You don't have to go to the form or anything. You can just email

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support at flowman.com. Done. Solved. We're not, we're not trying to, you have to read,

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you have to dive through at least three FAQ pages before you send us an email.

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Like, no, we don't care. You can either just go to the form, fill it out there or send an email.

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All good.

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Should I, just like six donors, should I send in a support ticket or post on Reddit about it and

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then ask them if I should send in a support ticket?

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How are your workouts going? I can finally, for the first time in the last like three and a half

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months, say good. They started up again this week because my wrist functions again, which is great.

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All right, should we do this thing? Yeah. Cool.

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Yo, dyslexic donor. Good work. Keep it up. Assuming that's healthy.

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Is odd pieces a sponsor today? Okay.

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Okay.

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Hell yeah. Keep going dyslexic donor. Good stuff.

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Can I help you at all? Okay.

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Thank you.

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How's your week?

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Terrible, actually. Cool.

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We'll have to catch up on that later. It's fine.

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Hey, LTT YouTube, I'm just punching it.

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I almost clicked remove selected. It's one of those days.

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All right, Dan, let me know when we're live. That prompt has saved many lives.

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What is up, everybody? And welcome to an early Christmas present, the WAN Show, but earlier.

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Oh, we've got so much good news for you guys this week.

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Meta is tolerating rampant fraud through their ads in order to make more money.

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Wow. Good job, Meta. Truly keeping your shareholders safe at the expense of everybody else.

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In other news, Microsoft seems to have said the quiet part out loud that nobody cares at all

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about co-pilot and that it just kind of doesn't really matter, but also they're still committed.

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They're still committed. They're going to cram it down your throat. Open up your throat.

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Open it up now, because I'm going to cram it in there. Yeah. That's Microsoft. Sachin Nadella,

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he's going for it. Sachin Nadella wants to cram it down your throat.

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That's why he's got, that's why he's bald. That should have been the WAN title to you.

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It's so he can dive in. That should have been the WAN title.

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Right down there. The thumbnail text is just...

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You know, you have to recover just long enough to do a couple of topics.

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Minutes into the show. Okay. You took the one I really wanted to do.

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I know. That's what I do. Good job. NVIDIA, reportedly plans a 30 to 40% cut in G4's GPU

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production. Nobody saw this coming. It's a surprise to everyone for sure. Also, the ramp

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apocalypse continues. Also, surprise to every... You're surprised, actually? I'm surprised.

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Really? No, of course not. Yeah. Okay. Nice. Intro time. Oh, what?

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Oh, no way. We have my gamer tank.

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That was fantastic. You keep talking over the music. The show is brought to you by MSI, Squarespace,

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Noki, that was an incredible, incredible WAN Show intro variant, but there is one minor detail

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that you got unforgivably wrong. What? I would never beat Luke at video games.

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You do? Yeah. I will win. I'll steal a couple rounds from you when we first pick up a new game,

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and then after that, it's basically just like the Luke Shrek's Linus show. I don't think it's

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that clear. You've always said this. I don't think... Okay. A one-off example is not fair enough.

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What was that game? It was like a jump around everywhere. Tower Fall?

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Tower Fall? We traded back and forth a lot on Tower Fall. Yeah, because I have like five times as many hours in it as you.

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I don't know. Also, my childhood was 2D side scrolling and jumping, and yours was Halo.

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Right, but then you look at games like Halo, and you're like, you beat me at those games,

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and it's like, yeah. And then I look at games like those ones, and I say, you beat me at those

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games, and you're like, yeah, but I grew up with those. Like, it has to be equal. Yeah, but I had so many more hours in it too.

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Yeah, but I also had so many more hours in shooters. I am trying to pay you a compliment. Just take it.

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No, not at expense of others. Oh, that's true. I am better than him at super checks, but that's not a video game. So...

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I will vibe code, super checks the video game, then I will win a video game against Luke.

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He'd find a way to win it. I was going to say, I don't know, dude. I might figure that out.

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Speaking of which, Metta has found a way to figure out how to keep the billions of dollars in

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revenue that they are making from fraudulent advertisers who are just using ads on Metta's

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platforms to, well, defraud people. This is based on a Reuters report that shows that

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internal documents allegedly show that Metta understood that a large portion of its advertising

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revenue from Chinese partners, and this is not like, like a little bit large portion,

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this is like roughly 19% of their advertising revenue in 2024. Over $3 billion came from ads

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that were tied to, and brace yourself, scams, illegal gambling, pornography,

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and other prohibited content. Then, seeing all that, Metta went, hmm, well, what we could do

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is we could crack down on this. But, but hear me out, hear me out, alternate plan, we could not.

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And make billions of dollars. From bogus products in Taiwan to investment

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scams in the US and Canada, China has become a major source of scam ads on Metta's platforms

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globally. A special China focused anti-fraud team initially was able to cut this problematic

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Chinese ad revenue nearly in half. But, all of this is allegedly because I do not work for Reuters,

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and I did not do the reporting for this. Allegedly, after a strategy shift influenced by

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the Zuck himself, the team was apparently disbanded and tougher enforcement measures were shelved.

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In a big surprise to everyone, especially the Zuck, fraudulent ads and therefore the revenue

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associated with them rebounded. I wonder when this was, was this during like his big layoff

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when he was like, we need to. The year of efficiency? No, I think it's more recent than that.

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Actually, you know what? No, don't quote me on that. Let's leave it. Go check out the link

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to Reuters, which Dan will throw in the video chat, description chat. Throw in the chat.

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A big part of the reason that this works so well is that Metta's ad ecosystem in China relies on

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layers of resellers that obscure advertisers' identities, making it easier for scammers to

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place ads. Consultants warned that this setup enables fraud, and that Metta's enforcement

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was weaker than their competitors. And it appears that they just don't care, because they'd rather

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just take the money and go, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, I don't know that fraudulent ads are

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happening on the platform, la, la, la, la. I mean, I just, to me, even with the network of

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resellers, it doesn't seem that complicated, because apparently it's like, I read the article,

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apparently it's like 11 top-level resellers or something like that. So if Metta cared at all,

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even with the whole layers of resellers thing, just pushing the responsibility onto them and

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going, yeah, I will literally ban you if too much of this crap makes it through.

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You know how so many things in life are bell curves? There's that whole meme

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where there's the person who's just chill about a thing, because they're ignorant to it or whatever,

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and then the person freaking out about it the thing, because they're at a medium level of

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skill or knowledge, and then on the other end, it's just someone who's extremely skilled or

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extremely knowledgeable, and they're just chill again. I feel like this applies to this situation

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as well. Really? This is kind of a wild take. Let's see where he's going with this.

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A really small company can often get away with just not carrying or paying attention to these

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types of things. Oh, I see what you mean. A medium-sized company gets crushed by everyone,

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because you're now big enough, you have to care about these things, and then really big companies

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just get to ignore them again. They get to basically not have customer service. They get to not police

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things like ads or anything else on their platforms, because they're like, I don't know, we're too big. We can't do that anymore, of course. That's totally fine, even though they

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definitely have the resources to do so. It's interesting how requirements, policies,

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upholding certain standards and stuff are really, really, really pushed for it, the middle size.

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This is wild. I saved this. Facebook, I think I talked about this last week, how Facebook sent

00:23:37.800 --> 00:23:43.240
me an invitation to use some feature on my page. Do you need to search for... Oh, never mind.

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Yeah, no, no, I got it. They create a fan challenge to keep your audience engaged

00:23:49.080 --> 00:23:55.240
with your page on Facebook. They sent me the same thing again. In fact, here, you can see,

00:23:55.240 --> 00:24:03.960
in the last week, I have three emails from Facebook. One, two, three. All with the same

00:24:03.960 --> 00:24:10.840
subject line for the Linus Tech Tips page on Facebook to create this fan challenge.

00:24:10.840 --> 00:24:16.760
Now, I've gone into the Facebook dashboard, and I'm not an expert on Facebook page management

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or profile management or advertising or anything. I log into Facebook as infrequently as I can,

00:24:22.200 --> 00:24:29.000
and I only really use it for marketplace at this point. I'm not going to claim that I have done

00:24:29.000 --> 00:24:36.120
the world's greatest job of finding where to turn this off. What I have done is I've gone

00:24:36.120 --> 00:24:42.120
into my Facebook dashboard and I've turned off every communication method that I could find,

00:24:42.120 --> 00:24:48.840
because I don't want emails from them unless it's something to do with the taxation for paying out

00:24:48.840 --> 00:24:54.520
our Facebook video ads, which were a thing for a while. Honestly, now they're not even that much.

00:24:54.520 --> 00:24:57.560
I don't think we're really making pretty much anything on Facebook anymore.

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You know, they had that big push into video like six years ago or something like that.

00:25:02.040 --> 00:25:07.880
Anyway, yeah, four or five. I don't know. It happened though. I'm going to go over here.

00:25:10.360 --> 00:25:17.480
We're both hanging out. So, I don't want to miss an important message. So, I can't just filter

00:25:17.480 --> 00:25:23.240
every message from Facebook. So, I wanted to turn off specifically this. Now, in Canada,

00:25:23.240 --> 00:25:30.440
anyway, we have a law called Can Spam that dictates that you are not allowed to send an email

00:25:30.440 --> 00:25:36.680
that is unsolicited and you need to have a clear way to unsubscribe. Luke, can you find

00:25:37.640 --> 00:25:47.000
in this email any even attempt to adhere to Can Spam regulations?

00:25:47.000 --> 00:25:54.280
Not in the slightest. There is not only no button to unsubscribe from this email,

00:25:54.280 --> 00:25:58.600
but there isn't even a link to my dashboard for where to turn it off.

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I have someone in particular that I might be actually genuinely enforcing to

00:26:05.800 --> 00:26:11.800
reporting to Can Spam stuff. Wait, Can Spam is US law? Canada is CASL?

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Am I crazy? Can Spam. Holy s***.

00:26:20.680 --> 00:26:25.400
If you look up Can Spam, it does bring up Canada's anti-spam legislation.

00:26:25.400 --> 00:26:31.080
Huh, cool. Okay, then they're violating US law and Canadian law. That's cool.

00:26:31.080 --> 00:26:35.400
But it is called CASL. It's interesting when you Google it that it brings up Canada's.

00:26:35.400 --> 00:26:41.960
Yeah, I completely Mandela affected myself. I suspect this is a commonly Mandela affected one considering it brings up Canada's.

00:26:42.600 --> 00:26:45.800
Anyway. But it is CASL. The commenter is correct.

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Cool. Thank you for that. And also doesn't change the point.

00:26:50.600 --> 00:26:54.760
It is interesting. You're right. A really, really small company would probably get away

00:26:54.760 --> 00:26:59.160
with just like sending out unsolicited. You'd kind of go... Because most people are like, whatever. Yeah, I get it.

00:26:59.160 --> 00:27:04.520
Yeah. They probably don't even know. And enforcing every policy for freaking everywhere

00:27:04.520 --> 00:27:10.680
is honestly just impossible. So whatever. And then you get to a certain size and everyone's like,

00:27:11.320 --> 00:27:15.400
You should really... You need to comply with every single thing everywhere in the entire world all the time

00:27:15.400 --> 00:27:19.240
or else we will delete your entire company. And then you get to that size.

00:27:19.240 --> 00:27:22.440
And it's like, well, you're not going to touch them anyways. And even if you do,

00:27:22.440 --> 00:27:25.880
they're not going to care about the fines because it's probably worth it to them to just

00:27:25.880 --> 00:27:29.800
pay the fines that are ultimately like, they'll be like, oh yeah, by violating this policy,

00:27:29.800 --> 00:27:35.720
we made $382 million and the fine costs $15 million. So like...

00:27:36.280 --> 00:27:39.880
Cost of doing business, baby. That's the best cost of doing business I've ever heard of. Sounds good.

00:27:39.880 --> 00:27:44.120
Pay the fine. You just hit these levels where it just doesn't matter anymore.

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And it's funky. Yeah. And I'm not surprised that they're shirking like all of this stuff because

00:27:50.440 --> 00:27:55.880
who cares? People aren't going to stop using them. Because that's another thing. You hit like a certain level of critical mass where

00:27:56.840 --> 00:28:00.200
people can scream about it all they want, but they're not going to stop using meta services.

00:28:00.200 --> 00:28:05.480
Maybe a tiny handful, but it's not going to significantly impact their actual user base.

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Lieutenant Salty says, my boss sends emails using our POS software. We send texts and emails.

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And I've told my boss he needs to have an unsubscribe option. He's just like, no.

00:28:21.720 --> 00:28:24.280
Yep. Yep. Apparently that's what the Zuck said too.

00:28:25.240 --> 00:28:29.880
But yeah, I've got somebody who sends emails to my personally email inbox.

00:28:29.880 --> 00:28:37.320
And I don't even care. That's a dumpster fire. But I have unsubscribed multiple times

00:28:38.040 --> 00:28:44.120
and blocked them multiple times, but they keep just taking their email list and bringing it

00:28:44.120 --> 00:28:49.640
over to different email services because I'm sure they just know this happens.

00:28:49.640 --> 00:28:53.160
And like I've never actually done a report before, but I might actually do it.

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Because I have blocked and unsubscribed at least close to 10 times.

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I have a conspiracy theory that the unsubscribe button is actually just to verify that it's a

00:29:04.520 --> 00:29:09.240
real inbox. I am 100% certain that happens at least sometimes because I know of at least one case.

00:29:10.920 --> 00:29:15.080
And so I might, they might even actually unsubscribe you to that list,

00:29:16.200 --> 00:29:20.520
but then sell the information that you're definitely a real person reading their actual

00:29:20.600 --> 00:29:22.600
email. To their other company to...

00:29:25.160 --> 00:29:29.320
Yep. Very cool. I feel like in medieval times, they would have just like...

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Kinjara just said, I work for an e-com company and we have migrated email servers

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multiple times over the last five years for the very reason you mentioned.

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That's rough. Thanks for letting me know that is interesting. But also, I think this person is

00:29:44.840 --> 00:29:50.840
literally like more than one or two times a year. It's very often.

00:29:53.320 --> 00:29:57.320
But that is, you know, I'm not surprised by these things. And this is kind of what I'm

00:29:57.320 --> 00:30:01.880
talking about. Like at a certain scale, you just don't care and you work around it.

00:30:03.000 --> 00:30:08.440
And at the bottom scale, other people don't care. And then in the middle, you get crushed by both

00:30:08.520 --> 00:30:14.600
realistic or not realistic. You get crushed by both like governmental regulation stuff and

00:30:15.720 --> 00:30:21.320
people expectations. I'm reporting as a spam. It's a great filter. And Google won't do anything.

00:30:21.960 --> 00:30:28.600
Nope. Oh, I just blocked it. Whoops. No, I don't. You know what? Fine. F*** it.

00:30:29.800 --> 00:30:32.520
I'm just never going to get any email from Facebook again, apparently.

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Actually, I really shouldn't do that. If we don't know about taxes, we don't have to pay them right.

00:30:43.240 --> 00:30:46.520
Is that how that works? No, actually, our current issue is that they

00:30:48.520 --> 00:30:54.840
are withholding some taxes from us that they shouldn't be because we're Canadian. And Yvonne

00:30:54.840 --> 00:30:58.920
has like a long chain going back and forth with them. I haven't actually brought that because

00:30:58.920 --> 00:31:03.560
it's a separate support team for like actual, they have a support team for like money. Right.

00:31:03.560 --> 00:31:08.920
But just like managing your page on just my account, like I don't have anything special in there.

00:31:10.360 --> 00:31:12.840
No may rank. That is not financial advice for me.

00:31:17.240 --> 00:31:19.160
Yeah. This is important right now.

00:31:22.440 --> 00:31:30.040
Why don't we do our headline topic next? Microsoft is, this is such a corporate way to say this,

00:31:30.840 --> 00:31:40.120
lowering its growth targets for co-pilot as it has, and this is a quote, this is amazing,

00:31:40.760 --> 00:31:48.040
struggled to find buyers interested in using it. Yeah. This is according to a story from

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The Information, which has resulted in a two and a half percent stock price drop on Wednesday.

00:31:54.360 --> 00:32:01.320
I mean, you can never quite attribute like a share move to just one piece of news.

00:32:01.320 --> 00:32:09.400
Honestly, I would have expected more, not financial advice. Based on how hyped the

00:32:09.400 --> 00:32:15.000
market is on AI stuff right now, then being like, yeah, it's failing. And then the market was like,

00:32:15.000 --> 00:32:20.200
okay. Well, I mean, here's the thing, right? There's a ton of inertia in all of this.

00:32:21.160 --> 00:32:27.080
Like I've been, I mean, Tesla just hit an all time high, right? So you got to remember that

00:32:29.320 --> 00:32:34.600
this kind of ties back perfectly to that long conversation we had last week about information

00:32:34.600 --> 00:32:41.160
bubbles. What percentage of people read the information? And I don't mean any information

00:32:41.160 --> 00:32:47.880
in general. I mean theinformation.com. What percentage of people read this? What percentage

00:32:47.880 --> 00:32:52.680
of people who read it have a subscription so they can read more than just the snippet?

00:32:52.680 --> 00:32:58.520
Who actually even knows about this? Not to mention that so much of the investment in

00:32:58.520 --> 00:33:05.240
things like the S&P are just, are automated. Like people will literally set up their paycheck to

00:33:05.240 --> 00:33:10.520
just siphon off some of it and just dump it into their portfolio. These are not decisions that

00:33:10.520 --> 00:33:14.680
they're making based on an article they read today and they shouldn't. That actually is financial

00:33:14.680 --> 00:33:20.920
advice. You should not be just like every day moving around. No, it's still technically not

00:33:20.920 --> 00:33:27.480
financial advice. It is still, but it is financial advice that I've received. Sure. That the average

00:33:27.480 --> 00:33:33.960
person should not be just like micromanaging their stock portfolio from day to day based on,

00:33:33.960 --> 00:33:38.920
you know, individual pieces of news. Is not financial advice that we're giving you. Correct,

00:33:38.920 --> 00:33:42.920
but it is financial advice that I've received from people who are qualified to give financial

00:33:42.920 --> 00:33:50.040
advice. So make of that what you will. Yeah, I think that's fine. So most people are not doing

00:33:50.040 --> 00:33:56.120
that. True. You look at like a pension fund, for instance, where they have tens or hundreds of

00:33:56.120 --> 00:34:00.440
millions of dollars that they're managing or billions of dollars that they're managing.

00:34:00.440 --> 00:34:08.600
You can't just sell a $400 million stake in Microsoft just like that. You can,

00:34:08.600 --> 00:34:12.920
you might not get the best price for it necessarily. Actually, Microsoft could probably

00:34:13.480 --> 00:34:17.640
absorb that much. Yeah, Microsoft could probably absorb that much, but depending on the size of

00:34:17.640 --> 00:34:23.480
the company, right, for every sale of a share, there has to be a purchase of a share. I just,

00:34:23.480 --> 00:34:30.680
I take every opportunity to talk about the Toronto Teachers Pension Fund. Currently sitting at $269.6

00:34:30.680 --> 00:34:38.280
billion in assets. Let's go. Yep. Massive, right? And so an entity like that

00:34:38.840 --> 00:34:43.240
isn't going to just read this article and be like... Yeet, we're completely out of Microsoft.

00:34:43.240 --> 00:34:48.280
Sell, sell, sell, sell all the Microsoft immediately. And you have to have, especially

00:34:48.280 --> 00:34:53.960
on a company with the market cap of Microsoft, you would have to have a huge, huge volume of

00:34:53.960 --> 00:35:00.120
transactions in order for the price to really appreciably nosedive, which isn't to say it

00:35:00.120 --> 00:35:05.720
never happens or that it won't happen when the AI bubble really like pop pops, but two and a half

00:35:05.720 --> 00:35:14.520
percent in a day is a lot. Anywho, what were we talking about again? Right, yeah, two and a half

00:35:14.520 --> 00:35:20.680
percent stock drop on Wednesday. Co-pilot currently holds 14% AI market share, apparently,

00:35:20.680 --> 00:35:29.560
with Google's Gemini less than 1% behind. This deeply depends on how you measure

00:35:29.640 --> 00:35:38.360
market share and based on tiny factors could swing massive amounts, just to be super clear.

00:35:39.080 --> 00:35:45.960
Apparently, a big part of the sales struggles is that AI agents being sold to businesses as

00:35:45.960 --> 00:35:51.880
labor replacements are failing to complete real-world office tasks 70% of the time according

00:35:51.880 --> 00:35:56.040
to researchers at Carnegie Mellon University. Honestly, I'm surprised they're successful 30%

00:35:56.040 --> 00:36:03.400
of the time. I suspect that is, again, how you measure it and also fub factor and lack of reporting

00:36:03.400 --> 00:36:11.800
and stuff because it's like for sure higher than that, but yeah. Cool. Or there's companies that

00:36:11.800 --> 00:36:17.880
are like accepting a certain amount of, okay, doesn't seem like it's actually replacing the person,

00:36:17.880 --> 00:36:21.240
but we can maybe accelerate some people this way, so we're not going to report it as a failure

00:36:21.240 --> 00:36:28.920
anyways, like stuff like that. Microsoft defended co-pilot claiming that the information story

00:36:28.920 --> 00:36:34.840
inaccurately combines the concepts of growth and sales quotas and they said that aggregate sales

00:36:34.840 --> 00:36:38.600
quotas for AI products have not been lowered. Before we keep going, another thing I would say

00:36:38.600 --> 00:36:43.720
about that 70% figure is I bet you there are cases where they are happy that they're not working as well.

00:36:44.440 --> 00:36:52.200
I could see, I was just talking earlier about how like in the pre-show, someone brought up,

00:36:52.200 --> 00:36:57.160
oh, my user name that I changed didn't reflect the change in full-plane chat for some reason,

00:36:57.160 --> 00:37:01.800
and I was like, okay, cool, send in a support ticket. We're not one of those companies that

00:37:01.800 --> 00:37:06.440
try to obfuscate it or make it harder to do by making you read FAQ articles and stuff.

00:37:06.440 --> 00:37:12.360
They might like that their support chat bots are bad. Interesting idea. I've never really

00:37:12.360 --> 00:37:17.960
thought about this before, but I wonder if it's genuine because there's like a ton of dark patterns

00:37:17.960 --> 00:37:23.080
at various companies that get put in place to stop you from actually properly sending in support

00:37:23.080 --> 00:37:29.960
tickets. Oh yeah, 100% because every support ticket costs money and every serving you a website

00:37:29.960 --> 00:37:35.160
webpage. If it's successful, you get a refund or a new product or something. Yeah. Like they don't

00:37:35.160 --> 00:37:40.680
actually want those to go through in a lot of cases. Right. Definitely not all, right, obviously,

00:37:40.680 --> 00:37:47.800
but like there are definitely some. So if it's like bad and it just results in people not being

00:37:47.800 --> 00:37:52.280
willing to go through the process and they just give up, and that shows up in some reporting

00:37:52.280 --> 00:38:01.240
dashboard as like, oh, we set up this AI bot and our expenditure on refunds and replacements is

00:38:01.240 --> 00:38:10.840
lower. They'll see that as a success. I have no idea. This is a lot of like. I'm going to choose

00:38:10.840 --> 00:38:15.960
to believe conspiracy theory that it's not that bad at most places. I'm going to choose to believe

00:38:15.960 --> 00:38:21.560
it's not that bad in most cases just for now, just for my own sake. I have no idea. This is based on

00:38:21.560 --> 00:38:28.280
nothing. And so, and, and my position is based on not being able to handle the emotional burden

00:38:28.280 --> 00:38:35.320
of you being correct about this. Who knows? One of the ways that Microsoft is growing their AI

00:38:35.320 --> 00:38:42.760
business still though is by forcing LG TV users to have a shortcut to co-pilot installed on their

00:38:42.760 --> 00:38:48.280
smart TV home screen. They have apparently since allowed users to delete the shortcut,

00:38:48.280 --> 00:38:54.760
but there was a period where it was not possible to delete and the backlash was swift and secure.

00:38:54.760 --> 00:38:58.520
Our discussion question is, why would you want co-pilot on your TV?

00:39:00.360 --> 00:39:05.160
Yeah, I don't. Extremely cold take, but man, smart TVs suck.

00:39:09.720 --> 00:39:16.280
Cool. Yeah, that was a, that was pretty, that was pretty good. Actually, oh, this is actually,

00:39:16.280 --> 00:39:20.520
this is a good, this is a good discussion question. David Gochia compared this topic

00:39:21.400 --> 00:39:30.360
is a bad TV UX enough to persuade you to buy a different brand. And, and follow up question

00:39:31.560 --> 00:39:38.040
for let's assume an equal viewing experience, how much more would you spend?

00:39:42.520 --> 00:39:47.640
I do think a bad UX could push me away from buying a certain TV.

00:39:48.200 --> 00:39:56.040
But the last TV upgrade that was done for my dad, we looked for one that on purpose

00:39:57.720 --> 00:39:59.560
was like as dumb as possible.

00:40:03.080 --> 00:40:09.560
The, how much is enough is a tough one. I don't know. I really don't know.

00:40:10.120 --> 00:40:19.720
Well, you think metal max scene had one idea. Hey, co-pilot, is this the episode I watched last

00:40:19.720 --> 00:40:27.480
week? Or is it just another scene of Abby and Mickey hacking? I guess if you wanted to ask it

00:40:27.480 --> 00:40:32.280
questions about content, but it's like, I don't know. See, I have the same issue with this

00:40:32.360 --> 00:40:40.760
that I have with like a wearable AI companion and, you know, an AI ring and an AI glasses

00:40:40.760 --> 00:40:47.720
and an AI, I already have a phone in my pocket. I literally already have it.

00:40:47.720 --> 00:40:52.040
It's also going to be wrong often. We did the, the full point exclusive that is out now,

00:40:53.080 --> 00:40:58.360
the last one from Luke week, which is a gaming video. And when I was looking over some of the,

00:40:58.440 --> 00:41:04.760
like B-roll footage I was sending to Sammy, Jim and I just did a summary without me asking

00:41:04.760 --> 00:41:10.040
of some of the footage that I had put in Google drive. And it like summarized a bunch of gameplay

00:41:10.040 --> 00:41:17.080
footage that I had. And it had like my mic and the person I was playing with's mic in the recording.

00:41:17.080 --> 00:41:21.080
So it tried to summarize like the things that happened and what we said about it. And it was

00:41:21.080 --> 00:41:30.200
like 70% correct. And 30% of it was just totally made up. And that's going to happen here.

00:41:32.040 --> 00:41:37.880
I was reading different parts. I was like, wow, that never happened. Neat. Yeah.

00:41:38.680 --> 00:41:45.880
Dyslexic stoner asks, what if my AI on my TV could put swear words back in instead of bleeps?

00:41:45.880 --> 00:41:56.360
I would give away all my info for that. No, now you're just, you're just imagining too useful of a function for AI. Okay. Oh,

00:41:56.360 --> 00:42:01.880
oh, this was such a great example of how, but with real swears, all of this stuff is just

00:42:01.880 --> 00:42:08.440
still. And I just, how many years ago was it that Google did that demo where your AI assistant,

00:42:08.440 --> 00:42:13.320
and this is pre like the generative AI LLM thing, where your AI assistant was supposed to,

00:42:13.320 --> 00:42:17.160
to phone your hairdresser and make an appointment for you? So long ago. That was like

00:42:17.720 --> 00:42:22.200
a billion years ago. I think at least like seven. I think, I think it was something,

00:42:22.200 --> 00:42:25.400
yeah, I think, I think you're probably right. I think it was like six to eight years ago or

00:42:25.400 --> 00:42:34.840
something like that. And I basically was like cap because like it's just obviously

00:42:35.800 --> 00:42:44.040
of six to seven. Very funny. Because it's just, it's, it's obviously the kind of thing that would

00:42:44.040 --> 00:42:50.520
work, but would work so poorly that it's actually more work than just calling your hairdresser

00:42:50.520 --> 00:42:57.400
and making an appointment and looking at the calendar yourself, right? I had another prime,

00:42:57.400 --> 00:43:05.560
wow, you nailed it. May 2018 apparently says Andy in the UK. Boom. Nice. I had yet another one

00:43:05.560 --> 00:43:11.800
of those moments because I looked at that and I went, my assistant can, can barely figure out like

00:43:12.760 --> 00:43:18.040
if I mean a local address or I mean one in New Brunswick when I asked to navigate somewhere.

00:43:18.040 --> 00:43:22.440
Like you got to be kidding me. My assistant is purely for setting alarms. Yeah. Or

00:43:23.000 --> 00:43:29.240
right. Shazam. Like my assistant, my assistant at that time, you still couldn't set an alarm

00:43:29.240 --> 00:43:33.160
using Google assistant. That was more than 24 hours in the future. Like you couldn't,

00:43:33.160 --> 00:43:38.040
do you remember that? You couldn't set an alarm for like two days from now. And that's a big

00:43:38.040 --> 00:43:43.720
problem for me because a calendar event is not enough for me. Like that's not enough for something

00:43:43.720 --> 00:43:48.280
I actually need to do. I need it to ring when it's time for me to do something. How is that still,

00:43:48.840 --> 00:43:53.800
how is that still not a function? Don't break it. How's that still not a function? I fully agree

00:43:53.800 --> 00:43:57.800
because it's super annoying needing to just go do both and you should really be able to make a

00:43:57.800 --> 00:44:02.760
calendar event, send off an alarm. Yeah, you really should. Anyway, anyway, anyway, anyway,

00:44:02.760 --> 00:44:05.960
maybe there's a third party app, which would be super cool and if anyone knows one, feel free to

00:44:05.960 --> 00:44:10.200
pop it in the chat. Feature idea too. If you're in the Google ecosystem, which kind of blows in a

00:44:10.200 --> 00:44:14.600
lot of ways right now, but you should make it so that it sets off an alarm unless you're like in

00:44:14.600 --> 00:44:19.720
the thing. So if you're in like a Google Meet that is in the calendar event, if you're in the thing,

00:44:19.720 --> 00:44:23.160
just don't bother set the alarm off. That'd be cool. But if you're not, then it should like get

00:44:23.160 --> 00:44:27.560
your attention until you get in the Google Meet. That would be sick. Cosmic Wolf says Siri is still

00:44:27.560 --> 00:44:32.200
limited to 24 hours. Yeah, so I was about to talk about Siri. So Yvonne never got around to switching

00:44:32.200 --> 00:44:37.640
back to her Android phone just yet, although iOS 26 has actually might make her might make her put

00:44:37.640 --> 00:44:42.760
might make her go back. I have a video coming soon on my experience with iOS 26. But as far as I

00:44:42.760 --> 00:44:49.560
can tell, it's like the biggest pile that Apple has released and that I'm aware of that I remember

00:44:49.560 --> 00:44:56.280
ever using. Anyway, she went to use Siri last night and she's like, Hey, Siri, and actually

00:44:56.280 --> 00:45:02.120
really like this, the way that Siri is just like, Hmm? Instead of being like, Yes, hello, what can I

00:45:02.120 --> 00:45:06.440
do for you? Shut up and I'm the one who talks. I am the human. You are the clanker, you know?

00:45:06.440 --> 00:45:16.360
Anyway, she goes, she goes, she goes, Hey, Siri, set a couple of reminders for me. I want to

00:45:18.040 --> 00:45:25.000
Sorry, I can't do that. Why not? I thought that's the whole point of natural language interaction.

00:45:25.000 --> 00:45:31.000
Why do I have to? Hey, Siri, set a reminder. I need to do blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,

00:45:31.640 --> 00:45:38.280
Okay, blah, blah, no, shut up, shut up. Hey, Siri. Hmm? Set a reminder. I need to. No,

00:45:38.280 --> 00:45:42.360
just let me do both. And until Oh, I'm so sorry. I'm setting off people's phones. My bad.

00:45:45.400 --> 00:45:46.440
Stop saying the S word.

00:45:49.000 --> 00:45:55.160
Yeah, I screwed up. I'm sorry. The point. Yeah, sorry. I can't show you that while driving. It's

00:45:55.160 --> 00:46:00.520
like, bro, I'm not, I'm not driving. I'm in the passenger seat and I'm plugged into the car play.

00:46:00.520 --> 00:46:09.240
That stuff is so annoying. Just thank you, nanny, but I'm not interested in having you take care

00:46:09.240 --> 00:46:12.840
of me and what I'm allowed to do while I'm doing things. You know, a game that I'm surprised

00:46:12.840 --> 00:46:17.400
doesn't exist. You know, when we were growing up and like everyone just universally played the

00:46:17.400 --> 00:46:23.400
like raindrop game, where like the, you know, when, when condensation is like gathering on your

00:46:23.400 --> 00:46:27.560
window and you like track how it goes. Yeah. Did you play the variant where you find a spot on

00:46:27.560 --> 00:46:31.560
the windshield and you move around your head to dodge everything? That was my favorite one.

00:46:31.560 --> 00:46:35.800
But everyone talks about the raindrop game. I thought that one was way more cool. But anyways,

00:46:35.800 --> 00:46:42.280
we all used to do this. I'm surprised those don't exist as like basically games. Oh, yeah. There's,

00:46:42.280 --> 00:46:47.320
there'd be no reason you couldn't do it with like head tracking. Yeah. It's got to be a thing.

00:46:47.320 --> 00:46:51.720
It's got to be like a genre. Maybe I just don't know about it. It seems like it would actually

00:46:51.720 --> 00:46:57.240
be like pretty fun. Oh, dude, you can do it in VR like super easy, I think. Yeah. I mean,

00:46:57.240 --> 00:47:02.440
would you even, you wouldn't even need VR. No, no, but like I'm just saying to skip a lot of the

00:47:02.440 --> 00:47:07.640
like steps. It should be not that hard, I think, but I don't know much about game development. So

00:47:08.440 --> 00:47:13.000
William Comarton says, I used to try to name the make and model based on the headlight shape at

00:47:13.000 --> 00:47:18.600
night. That's pretty cool. That's tough. Yeah. That's pretty tough. It's a lot more knowledge than

00:47:18.600 --> 00:47:25.080
I would have had. Yeah. And with my eyes, I'm not, I'm not making out a headlight shape, dude.

00:47:25.640 --> 00:47:26.280
I'm just getting.

00:47:28.680 --> 00:47:33.000
Webdude says, for reminders and alarms on Android, there's an app, A calendar,

00:47:33.000 --> 00:47:36.760
which can handle about five alarms slash reminders with noise or email.

00:47:37.560 --> 00:47:41.480
Why is it five? I don't know. Maybe it's just, maybe, maybe it's just not quite

00:47:42.120 --> 00:47:47.560
explained properly. Anyway, yeah, we can explore that another time. I just switched over to the

00:47:47.560 --> 00:47:52.440
Fold 7. Unfortunately, this is not the new tri-fold and it took a grand total of one day.

00:47:53.160 --> 00:47:58.600
It's not fold completely flat. Yep. So I need to add that to my notes.

00:48:02.040 --> 00:48:08.520
I want, you know what, overall, I still am really, really loving it a lot so far.

00:48:17.240 --> 00:48:21.720
It's like, dude, I haven't daily driven a Fold in years now.

00:48:21.720 --> 00:48:26.680
And it's like, it's like going back into the warm embrace of an old friend, honestly.

00:48:26.680 --> 00:48:30.680
Really? Yeah. I had a Teams meeting today that they were screen sharing on.

00:48:31.640 --> 00:48:38.120
So I had a giant thing that I could read text on. I was like, oh, yeah. Yeah. I remember why this was

00:48:39.000 --> 00:48:44.840
way better than literally anything else. And it's not for everybody, right? Like the battery life

00:48:44.840 --> 00:48:50.520
is going to be a bit of a downer for some people. Although with that said, I'm sitting at 97% today,

00:48:50.520 --> 00:48:53.320
but I did plug in on my way into work, so make of that what you will.

00:48:55.960 --> 00:49:03.960
But if your use case benefits from the Fold, there's just, there's no question. I've already run into

00:49:03.960 --> 00:49:15.960
a weird thing, Plex, the interface. If you tap your user icon at the top, in candy bar mode,

00:49:16.040 --> 00:49:21.880
it's supposed to do something, I forget, but in like the more tablet mode, it slides

00:49:21.880 --> 00:49:26.600
in a thing from the left and it accidentally did the tablet thing when I was in candy bar.

00:49:26.600 --> 00:49:32.200
So my screen was just going dark because I couldn't see that it was sliding a thing from off screen.

00:49:32.200 --> 00:49:37.880
Yeah. So just, you know, that's annoying. It's still not perfect. I was going to say,

00:49:37.880 --> 00:49:43.160
I wonder if that's more on the phone. I feel like it should be reporting. That's the phone.

00:49:43.160 --> 00:49:48.120
It's the phone. It's the phone. It's an Android. It's apps. It's just the poor integration between

00:49:48.120 --> 00:49:55.320
all of them. Yeah. It's a Plex promise. Just a shitty app. Yeah, sure. But that doesn't,

00:49:55.320 --> 00:50:01.880
and this is a take that I have, I have gone to war for a lot of times and I will continue

00:50:01.880 --> 00:50:08.920
to go to war for. It doesn't matter. Yeah, it's true. When at the end of the day, right, when

00:50:08.920 --> 00:50:15.400
people choose a device, whether they're choosing a candy bar Android, folding Android, an iPhone,

00:50:15.960 --> 00:50:19.640
Windows phone, I don't care. You know, whatever it is that people are choosing.

00:50:20.840 --> 00:50:21.400
Just keep going.

00:50:24.040 --> 00:50:29.720
What matters is the user experience. And so, you know, back when I was on some of the early folds

00:50:29.720 --> 00:50:37.320
and I couldn't use YouTube stories, I didn't care if that was Samsung's fault or Google's fault

00:50:38.120 --> 00:50:43.000
or Father Christmas's fault. It just didn't matter. What mattered was that device was not

00:50:43.000 --> 00:50:51.160
suitable for my use case. That's all that matters. Yeah. And so that's, and everyone else, I am the

00:50:51.160 --> 00:50:56.600
user. I am the one giving the money to have this experience and everyone else needs to accommodate

00:50:56.600 --> 00:51:02.040
what I need to get done on my device. So like, you know, let's look at Elijah's actually working on

00:51:02.040 --> 00:51:10.440
a video about his switch to iPhone, which was made actually for predominantly contact sharing,

00:51:10.440 --> 00:51:15.080
using AirDrop, because he went and was doing some networking at an event and missed out on some

00:51:15.080 --> 00:51:20.360
really good contacts because they were just like, oh, I have to type something. You're a lesser being.

00:51:21.320 --> 00:51:25.640
You know, oh, that's way too much work. I only tap my phone with people. I only interface with

00:51:25.640 --> 00:51:30.520
Highborns. Whatever. The point is, he missed out on some, he missed out on some, some contacts.

00:51:30.520 --> 00:51:34.760
And so he was like, okay, I'm just going to have to do it. But over time, he's found there's,

00:51:34.760 --> 00:51:40.920
there's other benefits as well. And one of them is that for creative oriented apps,

00:51:40.920 --> 00:51:46.440
sometimes they'll get cool new features before they're rolled out to other platforms. And

00:51:47.800 --> 00:51:53.560
at the end of the day, is that the fault of the app creator? Is that the fault of the

00:51:54.280 --> 00:51:59.080
the phone maker? Is that the fault of the operating system owner? In this case, you know,

00:51:59.080 --> 00:52:04.760
Google doesn't matter. Why Elijah? He says iPhone is so much better for creators. It's kind of

00:52:04.760 --> 00:52:09.160
scary. Why? What makes a difference? The thing I was talking about that you weren't listening to

00:52:09.160 --> 00:52:13.560
because you were reading chat. Nice. Cool. I wasn't really. And he's going to do a full video about

00:52:13.560 --> 00:52:18.120
it. So, you know, he'll be talking through a lot of this. Wait, the contact sharing? No,

00:52:18.120 --> 00:52:21.240
not the contact sharing. You missed it. You missed the whole other thing that I was talking about

00:52:21.320 --> 00:52:26.920
just now. Yes, we do need to do that.

00:52:29.560 --> 00:52:33.800
Oh, yeah. Yeah. Oh, Larian topic. So apparently we all

00:52:37.320 --> 00:52:42.920
now that's an early Christmas present. I have lots of things to say. I love video games.

00:52:44.520 --> 00:52:48.040
But this isn't even for me. Last time I did this, I was stepping on a mic. Riley,

00:52:48.040 --> 00:52:51.560
you're not on a, you don't have a mic yet. Hold on. There's supposed to be one here.

00:52:52.120 --> 00:52:56.600
Dan promised. I know, but I know, but you don't have it yet. You can't talk yet.

00:52:56.600 --> 00:53:00.200
I have to wear that. Wait, do we have a place for him to sit? What do you mean?

00:53:01.160 --> 00:53:07.080
What's that? It's just squatting. The world is my oyster. I can't hear myself through the mic,

00:53:07.080 --> 00:53:11.640
but why? Oh my God. I don't know if it's working. Guess why I'm here though, Linus?

00:53:12.440 --> 00:53:16.360
I can literally see it. I can see him talking. Why can't we hear it? They can hear him. They

00:53:16.360 --> 00:53:19.880
can hear him. So they're good. If they're good, I'm good. You're here to talk about the Larian

00:53:19.880 --> 00:53:23.240
thing. Can they hear, like, is it coming from this mic or is it coming from something? Yeah,

00:53:23.240 --> 00:53:30.280
yeah, yeah. Guys, I got it. Oh, there it is. Hey. I'm here to talk about Luke. Yeah. Because

00:53:31.160 --> 00:53:35.800
you haven't let him talk about AI enough, except today you guys talked about AI a ton. So like,

00:53:35.800 --> 00:53:41.320
what the heck? Well, I'll tell you what, while you talk about Luke, I'm going to go get you a stool.

00:53:41.320 --> 00:53:47.320
What? No, no, no, no. He specifically requested no stool. I'm a non-stool user.

00:53:47.960 --> 00:53:53.720
I'm like, you know how AI doomers are like, no AI ever. That's me with stools. He believes in no

00:53:53.720 --> 00:54:00.120
stool ever. I think stools are trained on other people's work and their copyright infringement.

00:54:00.120 --> 00:54:04.360
How about an apple box? It's basically just a chair. Stools are just chairs, but worse. Why would you

00:54:04.360 --> 00:54:11.240
ever? He's getting you an apple box. No, I asked, okay. Now you're going to make me ruin the meme.

00:54:12.280 --> 00:54:21.400
I asked Dan to remove the apple box. This is so much worse. Oh, but I do like, if I sit back here,

00:54:21.400 --> 00:54:25.320
then I kind of look like I'm... You have dramatic lighting. I'm lit by two, hold on.

00:54:26.200 --> 00:54:33.160
It's okay, I'm lit too. I'm lit by both sides and it's like I'm the duality of man. A neutral party.

00:54:33.160 --> 00:54:42.120
Okay. So should I... Not AI generated left. Should I talk through this and then you guys can have

00:54:42.120 --> 00:54:48.600
your conversation or how does this work? You can go. Sure. All right. Certain corners of the internet

00:54:48.600 --> 00:54:54.680
lost their flip in minds earlier this week when Larian Studios CEO Swin Vink told Bloomberg...

00:54:54.680 --> 00:54:59.400
Vinky. Yeah, of course. That's what I'm saying. Gotta be Vinky. Told Bloomberg that the Baldur's

00:54:59.400 --> 00:55:04.840
Gate 3 studio uses AI tools to help explore ideas and speed things along early in the development

00:55:04.840 --> 00:55:11.800
process. I hate how much of my life is reading text and then trying to say it out loud. And then

00:55:11.800 --> 00:55:18.120
having an AI train on it. It's Vinky, right? I have no idea. Thanks. In the same interview,

00:55:18.120 --> 00:55:22.520
Vinky made it clear. I like it. It sounds more like a pet name. It's gotta be Sven Vinky. It

00:55:22.520 --> 00:55:27.960
can't be Sven Vink. I don't know. I don't speak Swedish. I don't know if I've heard it said out

00:55:28.040 --> 00:55:34.440
loud. Vink sounds like a woodland creature. Google it and then you'll get one of the pronunciation

00:55:34.440 --> 00:55:39.880
things. Vinky sounds like also a woodland creature, just way cuter and fluffier. Vinky? Yeah. Maybe

00:55:39.880 --> 00:55:45.240
from like a fantasy world. Okay, it doesn't matter. The point is that Vinky made it clear

00:55:45.240 --> 00:55:50.920
that there will not be any AI-generated content in Larian's upcoming installment in the Divinity

00:55:50.920 --> 00:55:57.240
series saying that everything is human actors. We're writing everything ourselves. Jordan,

00:55:57.240 --> 00:56:01.560
who prepped this topic for us, said, but that was toward the end of the article. So the odds that

00:56:01.560 --> 00:56:08.040
anyone read that far, pretty low. Nobody has time for that. After the inevitable backlash for saying

00:56:08.040 --> 00:56:14.840
anything even vaguely positive about AI, Vinky took to Twitter to try to clarify. This is a quote,

00:56:15.400 --> 00:56:22.280
holy fuck, guys. We are not pushing hard for or replacing concept artists with AI.

00:56:23.000 --> 00:56:30.680
The post notes that Larian employs 72 artists, 23 of whom are concept artists, and that they're

00:56:30.680 --> 00:56:36.520
in the process of hiring more. Yeah, the concept art is really what this centers around. Vinky

00:56:36.520 --> 00:56:41.480
also linked a GameSpot article from April of this year detailing Larian's use of machine

00:56:41.480 --> 00:56:47.720
learning for tasks that he said, and this is a quote, nobody wants to do. This uproar has apparently

00:56:47.720 --> 00:56:53.160
reminded people that Game of the Year winner Clare Obscure Expedition 33 was accidentally

00:56:53.160 --> 00:56:57.720
released with AI placeholder art, which was quickly patched out of the game back in April,

00:56:57.720 --> 00:57:03.800
adding an additional target for the rage of the anti-AI camp. Daniel,

00:57:04.040 --> 00:57:09.960
Vavra, Vavra, whatever. Vulva, I think. Did you just say vulva?

00:57:12.200 --> 00:57:21.080
It's what? That's not a... It's a biological term. Important landmark if you're trying to find certain

00:57:21.080 --> 00:57:31.240
things. We're not going to get demonetized for that. The point is the co-founder of Kingdom Come

00:57:31.320 --> 00:57:37.400
Deliverance 2 developer Warhorse also waded into the mess to defend Larian's honor, saying

00:57:38.120 --> 00:57:43.240
this AI hysteria is the same as when people were smashing steam engines in the 19th century.

00:57:44.600 --> 00:57:48.760
Vinky said Larian was doing something that absolutely everyone else is doing,

00:57:48.760 --> 00:57:53.000
and they got into this insanely crazy sh** storm. Everyone else is doing it.

00:57:53.240 --> 00:58:02.840
Vulva adds, I'm no fan of AI-generated art, but anyway, it's time to face reality. AI is here

00:58:02.840 --> 00:58:09.160
to stay with us as frightening as it may be. That's the way it is. Now, I'm going to kick you

00:58:09.160 --> 00:58:14.280
guys off by throwing back to something that Luke and I were actually talking about earlier in this

00:58:14.280 --> 00:58:25.080
show. Larian sits at the apex of the curve. They're big enough that they're an attractive target for

00:58:25.080 --> 00:58:31.560
the hate, but not so big that they'll just be like, what are you going to do about it?

00:58:32.760 --> 00:58:37.800
All right, go. Yeah, one thing I was going to throw in just right off the bat is another game

00:58:37.800 --> 00:58:42.360
that won awards, because right now we're talking about Larian who took a ton of Game of the Year

00:58:42.360 --> 00:58:47.480
awards and many other awards, and then we're talking about Expedition 33, which won everything,

00:58:47.480 --> 00:58:51.640
as far as I can tell. Another game that won awards, the Multiplayer Award of the Year.

00:58:52.600 --> 00:58:58.360
Arc Raiders also has a ton of AI stuff going on. All of the movement of the AI enemies in the game

00:58:58.360 --> 00:59:03.960
is all machine learning. Really? Yeah. And you can hear more about that.

00:59:05.640 --> 00:59:08.840
We forgot to, did we even say that? That part's not in the video, but...

00:59:09.400 --> 00:59:16.840
We can learn about something, but you can't learn about something. Yeah, yeah.

00:59:16.840 --> 00:59:20.120
There's supposed to say that? Luke Week on Float Play, there's three episodes, one's a Q&A,

00:59:20.120 --> 00:59:25.880
one's a gaming video, which is like a follow-up to the last gaming video I did on the first Luke

00:59:25.880 --> 00:59:34.680
Week, and then the other video is something. It's us talking about AI, which is why I'm here,

00:59:34.680 --> 00:59:39.480
and I felt bad that I didn't... I was like, we're here for Luke, but we didn't even do the call-out.

00:59:39.480 --> 00:59:45.560
Just wanted to get that clear. It's Luke Week on Float Play, but anyway, machine learning,

00:59:45.560 --> 00:59:54.760
Arc Raiders. Yes, so it's in a lot of places, and if you want to be mad at something for AI stuff,

00:59:54.760 --> 00:59:59.080
as far as I can tell, the biggest use of it is largely in Arc Raiders.

01:00:08.440 --> 01:00:12.280
but one of the problems is that everyone's throwing everything under the same banner,

01:00:12.280 --> 01:00:17.560
and then it's kind of difficult because where's the line? Well, this is an interesting because

01:00:17.560 --> 01:00:24.680
with Sven Winkie, on his tweet where he's like, guys, seriously, we're the good guys,

01:00:24.760 --> 01:00:30.120
he links to a GameSpot article where he talks about how they use machine learning for the

01:00:30.120 --> 01:00:37.160
kind of rote menial tasks that no one wants to do, but the debate isn't really around like,

01:00:37.160 --> 01:00:43.800
oh, okay, you used AI to smooth out your mesh or whatever. I'm not a developer, I understand,

01:00:43.800 --> 01:00:48.440
but stuff that isn't like, ooh, the artistry involved in that. It's just kind of like, okay,

01:00:48.440 --> 01:00:55.720
you have to reduce the amount of polygons or whatever, and it's annoying. In a way, his argument is that it's actually accomplishing what a lot of people wanted out of

01:00:55.720 --> 01:01:00.520
it, which is that it's allowing for people to focus more on the artistic stuff that they want to do

01:01:00.520 --> 01:01:04.280
instead of the menial annoying tasks that they don't want to do, which is like...

01:01:05.320 --> 01:01:10.120
But that's why the backlash isn't about the machine learning, the more traditional

01:01:10.760 --> 01:01:14.840
what we called AI back then sort of. It's about the concept art.

01:01:14.840 --> 01:01:19.320
The problem with Arc Raiders is people don't know where the line is. There's a lot of questions for

01:01:19.480 --> 01:01:25.480
that thing looks like it might be generated, like generative AI generated, because there's

01:01:25.480 --> 01:01:30.280
little like, what do you call it, greebles? What's the term for when there's just random stuff added

01:01:30.280 --> 01:01:35.000
to things to make it look... I call them grubbles. This is, Star Wars is really not well known for

01:01:35.000 --> 01:01:39.240
this. They just like, they'll put vents and pipes on things or whatever. Yeah, I know what is called

01:01:39.240 --> 01:01:43.160
in the context of a garment, like an embellishment, but that's not what they're called. I think it's

01:01:43.160 --> 01:01:50.920
babufrik. So there's a lot of babufrik. Greebles. Yeah, I don't know. Greebling. Yeah, it's like a

01:01:50.920 --> 01:01:55.560
term. I don't know what it is. Babufriks though, I'm down with that. So there's tons of babufriks

01:01:55.560 --> 01:02:01.000
in Arc Raiders, where there's just like a tube that'll go from one place to another place that

01:02:01.000 --> 01:02:05.640
makes no sense at all. And people are wondering, was this someone just adding a tube because it

01:02:05.640 --> 01:02:10.920
looks cool, which totally might be a thing? Sometimes they like tubes. Or is this just

01:02:10.920 --> 01:02:15.800
generative AI just doing stuff? And it's, where is the line? What's going on?

01:02:15.800 --> 01:02:20.200
The most interesting aspect of the debate here for me was

01:02:22.760 --> 01:02:28.760
basically whether we are going to preserve the practice of like concept art. I think people

01:02:28.760 --> 01:02:33.640
are scared that if you... Because the most concerning part was him saying, oh, for the

01:02:33.640 --> 01:02:37.880
early concepting phase. Only in the early phase, we're kind of throwing ideas at the wall and

01:02:37.880 --> 01:02:42.120
seeing what sticks. So like if we're like, hmm, would it be funny to have a frog with it wearing

01:02:42.120 --> 01:02:46.120
a top hat or something? And then you like find an image of a frog or whatever and you tell

01:02:46.120 --> 01:02:50.680
AI, I put a top hat on him and then they do it and they're like, hmm, it's not so funny. Maybe

01:02:50.680 --> 01:02:54.440
we won't go with that, you know? It is funky. And the alternative to that would have been,

01:02:55.160 --> 01:03:00.440
hey, a concept artist, can you draw a frog wearing a top hat? Now, I feel like in that

01:03:00.440 --> 01:03:06.920
situation, I can easily see a concept artist kind of taking that idea and making a top hat

01:03:06.920 --> 01:03:11.320
on a frog look funny and look interesting in a way that AI wouldn't be able to.

01:03:11.320 --> 01:03:19.160
But couldn't a concept artist also put that prompt in and go, yeah, it's funny,

01:03:19.160 --> 01:03:23.240
but I think I could do it better and draw something. Well, the counterpoint to that

01:03:24.120 --> 01:03:31.320
is that you're basically like starting from... If you prompt AI and you get a result back and

01:03:31.320 --> 01:03:34.840
you're like, hmm, okay, I'm going to do that but better or I'm going to like iterate on that,

01:03:35.800 --> 01:03:43.000
okay, you're starting with a thought process and that's part of the human creativity engine,

01:03:43.000 --> 01:03:48.760
but this is a studied phenomenon. People are more creative and they think better through

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problems if they do it themselves from scratch or if they learn how to do it themselves from

01:03:53.320 --> 01:03:59.160
scratch. And this might be a solution. This is the whole problem with AI. It's a solution to do

01:03:59.160 --> 01:04:05.080
something faster, but you're probably going to get a worse output at the end of it.

01:04:05.080 --> 01:04:11.960
And maybe even if, so if you have a super experienced concept artist today, they could use

01:04:11.960 --> 01:04:19.720
potentially, they could use AI to accelerate a quality job, but if you are losing out on the

01:04:20.440 --> 01:04:25.560
development of your ability to think through these problems because you've always had this crutch.

01:04:26.520 --> 01:04:31.640
But then I mean, oh man, see now we're going back to the calculator argument, right? You won't

01:04:31.640 --> 01:04:35.640
have a calculator in your pocket, so you need to be able to start things from scratch.

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But yes, if a calculator had the result of like the cumulative output of human knowledge being

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reduced, like in mathematics, if our ability to do advanced mathematics at the highest levels

01:04:47.800 --> 01:04:52.520
was reduced because of calculators, maybe it has been. I think there's also a problem here

01:04:52.520 --> 01:04:58.520
where you have the like the movie adaptation to a book problem where like once you've seen

01:04:58.520 --> 01:05:03.640
the movie adaptation to the book, when you read the book, your brain is kind of filling in like,

01:05:03.640 --> 01:05:07.640
oh, this is what this person looks like. This is what this place looks like, whatever,

01:05:07.640 --> 01:05:10.680
where if you're just reading the book and never seen any of those references,

01:05:10.680 --> 01:05:14.120
you kind of make it up yourself. I mean, if I've seen a frog with a top hat,

01:05:14.120 --> 01:05:16.920
there are definitely people who are not susceptible to that.

01:05:17.880 --> 01:05:23.720
I mean, I wouldn't have thought it would be possible to read the Hobbit and then create

01:05:23.720 --> 01:05:29.320
such a shit movie. They've clearly completely reimagined that, not for the better.

01:05:29.320 --> 01:05:33.400
Yeah, I think there's a whole other set of incentives and problems there.

01:05:33.400 --> 01:05:38.360
Have you seen it? They recast Aragorn in the new Gollum movie. You guys haven't heard about this.

01:05:38.360 --> 01:05:42.680
Because he's younger. Yeah, but Gandalf's in it. Like Ian McKellen is Gandalf in it.

01:05:42.680 --> 01:05:46.520
Wait, what? But Vigo's too old. Anyway.

01:05:47.400 --> 01:05:53.240
They should have just done it anyways. They should have just used Vigo. I'm pretty annoyed about that, but I mean, that is what it is.

01:05:53.960 --> 01:05:56.600
I mean, the movie's going to suck anyway, so does it really matter?

01:05:57.960 --> 01:06:00.280
Did you watch the War of the Rohirrim? I, yeah.

01:06:01.080 --> 01:06:06.440
So bad. I couldn't make it through it. I really wanted to. It's funny because it's like, oh, Peter Jackson's returning for the Hunt for the Gollum movie.

01:06:06.440 --> 01:06:09.800
So it's like, but that doesn't mean anything because he did the Hobbit movies and they're horrible.

01:06:09.800 --> 01:06:18.520
Didn't he come in late? Didn't he come in late on the Hobbit movies?

01:06:18.520 --> 01:06:24.680
Did he? I thought he came in to like try to save them. I have to admit that I don't, I know hardly anything about the Hobbit movies

01:06:24.680 --> 01:06:27.880
because I went to see the first one in theater and I was like, this is horrendous.

01:06:27.880 --> 01:06:31.960
I saw it also in 48FBS and I was like, this is horrendous. And I just didn't watch the next two.

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I did the same thing. You did the right thing. I watched the next two because I'm a completionist

01:06:36.760 --> 01:06:40.200
and masochist like that, I guess. But I don't think I saw them. They didn't get better.

01:06:40.200 --> 01:06:47.160
Maybe I did, but I don't think I did. They didn't get better. Yeah. I would watch the heck out of like a fan cut and which probably exists.

01:06:47.160 --> 01:06:50.360
I think there is one movie because I complained about this on Wancho a while ago.

01:06:50.360 --> 01:06:54.280
Someone mentioned that. I think there is one. Yeah. Okay. I don't want to take us too far off the rails.

01:06:54.280 --> 01:07:02.440
Back to AI stuff NVIDIA games. Yeah. I mean, like it's it's it's also a tough line because we're at a spot and I think

01:07:03.800 --> 01:07:07.640
I think this has been addressed actually by potentially Larry and I'm not I'm not sure.

01:07:07.640 --> 01:07:14.520
But we're at a weird spot where like a lot of people are demanding stances of different tools

01:07:14.520 --> 01:07:20.120
and technologies that people companies really will not use and they're looking for people

01:07:20.120 --> 01:07:24.600
to make permanent statements on those things and none of us have any idea what's going to

01:07:24.600 --> 01:07:30.360
happen to the landscape moving forward and that could put companies that are actually going to

01:07:30.360 --> 01:07:35.480
bother potentially responding to any of this and having open dialogues with people like Larry and

01:07:35.480 --> 01:07:41.880
at potentially extremely disadvantageous positions in a field that is incredibly mind

01:07:41.880 --> 01:07:47.320
blowingly cutthroat and competitive and you have companies that are not laying people off

01:07:47.320 --> 01:07:51.640
that are actively hiring that are making games that people like and those companies are the

01:07:51.640 --> 01:07:55.800
ones that are getting critically looked at when there's companies that are laying people off and

01:07:55.800 --> 01:08:01.080
are in some cases known for using even more AI stuff and those companies are being ignored

01:08:01.080 --> 01:08:05.240
in this case and it's just like I think we need better targets for this energy.

01:08:05.240 --> 01:08:10.520
I saw a really good tweet because I can't be here very long. I saw a really good tweet

01:08:10.520 --> 01:08:16.440
where someone's like gamers are like they don't want games to be delayed. They don't want

01:08:17.800 --> 01:08:22.200
studios to force the developers to crunch either. They don't want people to use AI

01:08:23.240 --> 01:08:27.720
but they also want the games to come out and play them and like it's like they can't have all of these

01:08:28.440 --> 01:08:34.600
they want everything. Gamers are a difficult bunch. Yeah I take the opinion that like look

01:08:34.600 --> 01:08:41.640
if you want to use AI for small parts that isn't like and like according to your principle you

01:08:41.640 --> 01:08:47.560
talk about. No output. No output. Don't use the unaltered output you know never. Which is what

01:08:47.560 --> 01:08:53.160
Larry is saying. If they want to do that as part of the pipeline you know go for it. I don't think

01:08:53.160 --> 01:08:58.760
we should jump down their throats for that given how AI is here already. However I will have way

01:08:58.760 --> 01:09:06.520
more respect for a company if they do everything without AI and take a friggin long time it's

01:09:06.520 --> 01:09:13.240
just like is that possible? Do the economics work? Sorry. I was just gonna say that AI is I

01:09:13.240 --> 01:09:22.040
don't know if anybody noticed this but AI in for a person who runs a company that has been to a

01:09:22.040 --> 01:09:28.280
fault transparent and take instances on a lot of things AI is one of the ones that if you've

01:09:28.280 --> 01:09:35.160
been listening very carefully I have never made any kind of commitments for Linus Media Group.

01:09:36.360 --> 01:09:41.560
Four against I think. We like barely use it internally. Even when Microsoft came in here

01:09:41.560 --> 01:09:45.720
and offered to replace all of the employees for free. Every single one of them. Yeah you were

01:09:45.720 --> 01:09:51.640
like you know what not today. I'm trying to have a serious conversation and you guys are completely

01:09:51.640 --> 01:09:56.440
taking it off the rails which is fine because I wasn't going to give an answer anyway. Honestly

01:09:57.160 --> 01:10:00.040
this conversation was way more on the rails than it should have been

01:10:01.560 --> 01:10:06.040
for me coming in here and I don't think I even have time to be part of the Mozilla one because

01:10:06.040 --> 01:10:09.960
I feel like I wanted to combine those two with the Larian and the Mozilla because they're both

01:10:09.960 --> 01:10:15.080
just being attacked. We can talk Mozilla but first I want to do something fun um so I had

01:10:15.080 --> 01:10:19.640
you said he doesn't have time. Well no you guys you guys can talk about Mozilla. So there was a

01:10:19.640 --> 01:10:23.400
little comment here in Floatplane from Vellisette that I had highlighted I wanted to talk about

01:10:23.400 --> 01:10:28.520
yeah biggest problem here is that for a vocal minority it's binary. There's no nuance to this

01:10:28.520 --> 01:10:33.800
conversation and that's one of the reasons that I haven't taken a stance because people are going

01:10:33.800 --> 01:10:41.000
to expect me to take like a hard line stance when even if I did it wouldn't be something

01:10:41.000 --> 01:10:45.960
that I could fully control anyway. I don't know if I even want to say this but hot take.

01:10:46.600 --> 01:10:54.280
I mean there's there's companies like I there's companies like I don't remember the name of

01:10:54.280 --> 01:11:00.120
the company behind it but they made silk song they're like three people. Team Cherry has like

01:11:00.120 --> 01:11:05.080
three people maybe they can control for this. At bigger companies like Larian has hundreds

01:11:05.800 --> 01:11:13.720
and and they're not even seen as like a big studio. All of those games if it's a binary

01:11:13.800 --> 01:11:19.000
that you're looking at this set will be made with AI. I think I can be confidently say that

01:11:19.000 --> 01:11:24.120
statement and I don't even if the even if the head of the company is like don't use it it's

01:11:24.120 --> 01:11:27.800
still going to happen. Do you remember these are going to try to take shortcuts. Do you remember

01:11:27.800 --> 01:11:38.040
when we had a minor controversy when one of our I had taken that one time.

01:11:46.040 --> 01:11:51.320
No sorry I don't. I have no memories. You legitimately might not remember this one.

01:11:51.720 --> 01:11:59.160
It's not ringing about it. So we had a minor controversy a while back where I had on Wansho

01:11:59.160 --> 01:12:04.200
said that I didn't feel that in our industry working the way that we do and relying on ads

01:12:04.200 --> 01:12:09.320
the way that we do that we should use adblock and I had made it a policy at our company that we

01:12:09.320 --> 01:12:16.440
don't install it on our computers. Yeah and I got called out like a couple weeks later or something

01:12:16.440 --> 01:12:21.080
for using adblock because I screen shared on something and I was using a laptop that

01:12:21.080 --> 01:12:26.120
someone else had set up someone else had configured. That is a perfect example of what

01:12:26.120 --> 01:12:33.080
you just said. How in a company of more than one person or even in a company of one person

01:12:33.080 --> 01:12:38.760
someone can forget a thing that they said at some point and do something but especially in

01:12:38.760 --> 01:12:42.680
a company of more than one person you can have a stance on something you can have an opinion

01:12:42.680 --> 01:12:47.640
you can even have a policy but at the end of the day not everyone is going to follow it so you

01:12:47.640 --> 01:12:55.800
could say no AI will make it into anything that we do all you want I had to I had to read a sponsor

01:12:55.800 --> 01:13:02.840
spot that was clearly AI generated not that long ago because it was in the form of like rhyming

01:13:02.840 --> 01:13:10.920
couplets with all the sponsor talking points and I'm like okay two things. One if you used AI for

01:13:11.000 --> 01:13:18.680
this bad and two if you did this without AI double bad because what a waste of time

01:13:19.560 --> 01:13:26.840
it was like passable but not good yeah it was AI okay there's one other thing. Some concept

01:13:26.840 --> 01:13:32.440
artist is going to have a bad week and be really frustrated and have a deadline for frog with top

01:13:32.440 --> 01:13:37.480
hat yeah whatever the like oh my god I just I can't get the pose right for some reason

01:13:37.480 --> 01:13:41.960
but really generate okay cool yeah I can make that work whatever the artist equivalent of

01:13:41.960 --> 01:13:49.000
writer's block is they're gonna use a tool brush block sure okay the other thing I wanted was you

01:13:49.000 --> 01:13:55.400
guys were talking about greeblies or whatever and I was like oh I wonder what an AI response to

01:13:55.400 --> 01:14:00.840
the right number of pieces of flair is like will it will it get the office reference or will it

01:14:00.840 --> 01:14:05.240
will it come up with something so I typed how many pieces of flair is the right amount

01:14:05.240 --> 01:14:11.560
and it literally is like new try AI mode search put that in your mind and get AI power responses

01:14:11.560 --> 01:14:18.600
you literally gave me the AI response well whether I consented to it or not okay well I can

01:14:18.600 --> 01:14:22.920
if you could not interested what the way the way no no it's a different thing the way is still like

01:14:22.920 --> 01:14:28.440
what the heck the way they're branding all this stuff is so insane annoying to me especially as

01:14:28.440 --> 01:14:34.440
like covering tech news and like it's like Google updated this and they have a new mode and I'm just

01:14:34.440 --> 01:14:38.680
like and I have to read through and be like okay so this is like the other this is like the four

01:14:38.680 --> 01:14:44.360
other things that they call like because they have Gemini they have Google regular search they have

01:14:44.360 --> 01:14:50.280
Google AI overviews they have AI mode which is basically just using Gemini but like it's more

01:14:50.280 --> 01:14:58.040
more searchy it's like all right so let's find out what this does sure it's like yeah it's okay so

01:14:58.040 --> 01:15:03.800
now it just just comes up in a different interface it's basically Gemini except it's like what we're

01:15:03.800 --> 01:15:09.160
doing here is searching the web for stuff yeah yeah so it's just Gemini but focused on search

01:15:09.160 --> 01:15:15.960
yeah what this is such a stupid it was doing really well the running joke blah blah 15 pieces of

01:15:15.960 --> 01:15:21.560
flair blah blah etc office space outside the film there's no set right amount of flair the term has

01:15:21.560 --> 01:15:30.680
come to refer to other things including flair airlines baggage allowances no hey hey haven't

01:15:30.680 --> 01:15:36.680
you ever taken a shot you know just like it took a swing and it missed that time yes it did it's

01:15:36.680 --> 01:15:44.920
got a chutzpah good lord I wanted to say well I already said it okay well you wanted to talk

01:15:44.920 --> 01:15:52.520
about the mozilla thing right do you have time okay I I really need to go but basically my main I

01:15:52.520 --> 01:16:03.800
wrote this I wrote the tackling story Nate somebody a probationary employee wrote notes

01:16:04.760 --> 01:16:09.640
they're almost done wrote notes for it and then I kind of edit the notes again but basically the

01:16:09.640 --> 01:16:17.320
gist is that Mozilla got attacked because they have a new CEO fire fox is going to evolve into a

01:16:17.320 --> 01:16:23.480
modern AI browser is what he said but he also really emphasized trust and user agency and stuff

01:16:23.480 --> 01:16:28.760
and people like to jump down their throats for adding AI there were so many articles and and

01:16:28.760 --> 01:16:36.360
tweets and stuff were like firefox is adding AI now I'm out guys firefox has had AI features

01:16:37.000 --> 01:16:41.720
for a long time all the things that I listed and people have been talking about this all

01:16:41.800 --> 01:16:48.360
text generation for accessibility translation automatic tab grouping link previews with summaries

01:16:48.360 --> 01:16:54.600
chatbots in the sidebar an AI window that's currently in beta that you can open like a private

01:16:54.600 --> 01:17:00.760
slash incognito window yeah and I noted that most firefox users haven't like may not have noticed

01:17:00.760 --> 01:17:06.120
these because they're all optional features and you can turn them off and this is like something

01:17:06.120 --> 01:17:10.200
that they're going to continue doing I feel like I'm coming out here and being like guys

01:17:11.160 --> 01:17:17.720
don't be mad at AI like you know you can be mad at AI I don't like AI as just like on a on a

01:17:17.720 --> 01:17:22.040
as on a principle but I understand that like what firefox is saying here as well is that

01:17:22.040 --> 01:17:30.120
it's out of the bag it's out there and there if they don't add some kind of features in a thoughtful

01:17:30.120 --> 01:17:37.160
way uh they'll be left behind and they are being left behind yeah I mean Vivaldi had that mic drop

01:17:37.160 --> 01:17:43.320
where they were like here's our press conference there's no AI and then they like walk out a frame

01:17:43.320 --> 01:17:48.200
and it's like yeah that's nice but you're like there's barely a Vivaldi yeah what's the Vivaldi's

01:17:48.200 --> 01:17:54.200
market share you looking at ask AI I think it's like one percent but but firefox has gone from

01:17:54.200 --> 01:18:01.960
30 percent around 2010 to like I think it's four percent or so on desktop and across all platforms

01:18:01.960 --> 01:18:08.280
it's like two percent it's crazy yeah Vivaldi's like but like I also want to say the AI overview

01:18:08.280 --> 01:18:14.520
though I don't know maybe you know I I feel like there totally could be a future where Vivaldi or

01:18:14.520 --> 01:18:19.640
whoever is like hey all these browsers over like they're been overtaken by AI slop where the browser

01:18:19.640 --> 01:18:25.880
that doesn't have any AI where the human browser and like it you know people go for that because

01:18:25.880 --> 01:18:31.080
of that like that's their marketing angle you know and then if that becomes popular cool I just feel

01:18:31.080 --> 01:18:38.520
like I don't like the jumping I didn't like the thinking that firefox is adding AI for the first

01:18:38.520 --> 01:18:45.160
time when like you guys say that you're firefox users but you don't even know what the browser is

01:18:45.160 --> 01:18:50.840
and and B like you know this is this is where we're at now I don't know and I think it's important

01:18:50.840 --> 01:18:56.520
to understand like all of our various perspectives as we come into this like you know I'm both a

01:18:56.520 --> 01:19:04.280
business owner as well as a creative like I don't use AI for writing not because necessarily it's

01:19:04.280 --> 01:19:09.800
out of principle I can recognize how it could be useful for some people I just don't need it

01:19:09.800 --> 01:19:16.840
um and I don't feel that it I don't feel that it makes even if it makes something that I'm writing

01:19:16.840 --> 01:19:23.080
better what it can't do is make it more me at least not at this time you know if we could

01:19:23.160 --> 01:19:28.840
train an internal LLM on every script I've ever written or edited maybe it could maybe it could

01:19:28.840 --> 01:19:33.800
literally like perform some manner of like editing for me but a big part of how my brain works is

01:19:33.800 --> 01:19:38.840
just like being kind of ADD and going in a different direction all the time you know Luke's

01:19:38.840 --> 01:19:45.720
coming at it from he manages a team of developers where AI assisted tools have been just like

01:19:46.760 --> 01:19:52.600
a thing everybody been doing it for a while for a long time this is his old you know Riley's

01:19:52.600 --> 01:19:58.120
coming at this from a very like creative minded headspace as well so we're all gonna have wow

01:19:58.920 --> 01:20:05.320
what I think I'm creative I think I think you're very creative Riley go on and anyone who anyone

01:20:05.320 --> 01:20:11.320
who's watched your creative sponsor reads which are literally called that uh CSP creative sponsor

01:20:11.320 --> 01:20:16.680
okay placement I was just doing a bit we don't have to I don't know what the p is I was wondering

01:20:17.400 --> 01:20:24.040
creative sponsor production all right anyway the point is like this is our perspective and you

01:20:24.040 --> 01:20:29.000
don't have to share our perspective but what you're going to have to kind of come to terms with is

01:20:29.000 --> 01:20:33.960
that everybody is going to have a different perspective that is motivated by their own

01:20:33.960 --> 01:20:40.120
personal interests and the people around them and what all of those things are going to need to mesh

01:20:40.120 --> 01:20:48.920
with is that it's here it's happening the steam engine is not coming back you know the ice box

01:20:48.920 --> 01:20:54.520
harvesting the ice from a cave or whatever refrigeration happened and we're not going to

01:20:54.520 --> 01:20:59.240
do that anymore technically people still do that oh yeah people still ride horses too yeah but it's

01:20:59.240 --> 01:21:05.880
a thing that people are very passionate about and they very much do but is not just like tiny you

01:21:05.880 --> 01:21:12.360
know one two three bit studios that just like the process and want to do it and they do it and

01:21:12.360 --> 01:21:17.640
that's fine just want to jump in I don't think luke meant like two bit studios like like crappy

01:21:18.600 --> 01:21:24.600
no I mean amount of people cool yeah yeah so thanks for the clarification because yeah it has

01:21:24.600 --> 01:21:30.040
kind of like a negative connotation oh yeah no I meant in a actually very positive connotation

01:21:30.040 --> 01:21:35.400
I'm thinking again of team cherry I get it I got it three people yeah amazing game I feel like they

01:21:35.400 --> 01:21:39.000
usually goes the other way that was interesting I'm just saving us here I don't yeah I don't know

01:21:39.000 --> 01:21:42.760
that one he saved you from something yeah it's good you were about to be canceled right away

01:21:44.200 --> 01:21:52.680
expressly probably not as major as the heart our incident but I yeah I I feel compelled to point

01:21:52.680 --> 01:21:58.360
out before I leave I'm gonna leave now I feel compelled to point out the like I've in my attempt

01:21:58.360 --> 01:22:04.360
to beat to straddle the line between both the blue and the red here you know to be the the one the

01:22:04.360 --> 01:22:11.720
only one who walks in both worlds like ghost rider played by Nicholas Cage I I feel like I come off

01:22:11.720 --> 01:22:17.880
as like two pro AI and I feel like I am very much in the middle life the way I the way I see this is

01:22:17.880 --> 01:22:25.720
like alcohol legalization like or legalization sir most prohibition won't work yeah it's not

01:22:25.720 --> 01:22:33.000
gonna work like it has to be legal so that it can be regulated regulated we aren't regulating well

01:22:33.000 --> 01:22:39.000
and it won't be but I just feel like you can't put the cat back in the bag but we also don't have

01:22:39.000 --> 01:22:43.720
to yell at the cat for being out of the bag you know every time it shows its face we have to be

01:22:43.720 --> 01:22:48.360
like okay the cat is here I don't like cats but I'm not gonna the right thing I don't think either of

01:22:48.360 --> 01:22:53.960
us are particularly like pro AI usage to be clear just I don't think any of us are now that way

01:22:53.960 --> 01:22:59.080
yeah no I mean I think I brought out perfect centrist I think I brought up my open AI account

01:22:59.080 --> 01:23:04.120
on stream a little while ago and I had like three or four chat Windows with it like it's

01:23:04.760 --> 01:23:13.720
I don't use it but I also you know it's in the same way that okay we did an AMD ultimate tech

01:23:13.720 --> 01:23:19.960
upgrade where one of the first things that we did was make a joke about how Colton's brother-in-law

01:23:19.960 --> 01:23:25.800
has kind of serial killer vibes and then we went down to his garage to find a shovel so that we

01:23:25.800 --> 01:23:30.360
could do a take of me talking about because he works for our customer service and I was saying

01:23:30.360 --> 01:23:35.160
you know when you when you contact us he'll make sure you get taken care of and so we went to find

01:23:35.160 --> 01:23:40.440
a shovel so he could be like patting the earth behind me as I did the line and in his garage we

01:23:40.440 --> 01:23:50.360
found a tool that had a handle kind of like a hammer and then on the one side it had a hatchet

01:23:50.360 --> 01:23:56.600
blade that was sharp on the end and on the bottom so it's like a two-sided like hatchet blade

01:23:56.600 --> 01:24:04.440
and then on the other side was a meat tenderizer and so I so I found that that tool like processing

01:24:04.440 --> 01:24:10.360
game couldn't tell you okay and and what I realized was it's for murder that's a really

01:24:11.240 --> 01:24:17.240
that's a really interesting tool that could maybe be useful to someone it has the potential for great

01:24:17.240 --> 01:24:24.040
misuse and it's not very useful to me and that's how I feel about AI you could use it for ice carving

01:24:24.040 --> 01:24:31.560
it's like a it's like a hatchet meat tenderizer sure yep yeah yeah and you know hey power to the

01:24:31.560 --> 01:24:38.200
hatchet meat tenderizer users if anyone knows what that tool is by the way I'm like super interested

01:24:38.200 --> 01:24:45.720
to know I have to go okay thanks for joining us this was a much less chaotic experience than the

01:24:45.720 --> 01:24:52.840
last time I crashed you guys yeah um so have we grown up with that is that good or disappointing

01:24:52.840 --> 01:25:00.760
I uh it's both I feel like I like discussions but I also just like disrupting you okay well godspeed

01:25:02.200 --> 01:25:12.840
bye oh it's not the best for the audio I mean okay fantastic it didn't look like this quite

01:25:12.840 --> 01:25:21.800
but this is sort of the this is sort of the idea I think the tenderizing axe the tenderizing axe

01:25:21.800 --> 01:25:31.240
that's wow and it sounds like a super weird like it's good band name yeah actually I like that clown

01:25:31.240 --> 01:25:40.520
metal um anyway we should do sponsors maybe uh let's do our cw announcements oh we have cw

01:25:40.520 --> 01:25:49.080
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they were sitting there all this time I don't know how do you just find incredible amounts of things

01:26:41.240 --> 01:26:46.520
it is a significant source of consternation for me this is this is ignorant I've never

01:26:46.520 --> 01:26:52.040
done something like that but I just I just don't like I might find something in the back of some

01:26:52.040 --> 01:26:59.160
closet I haven't gone into in a long time or like you know that that box of like right

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keepsakes from high school right but theoretically we digitally track our assets

01:27:04.200 --> 01:27:09.240
but yeah how do you lose a thousand screwdrivers oh it was more than a thousand I just said a thousand

01:27:09.960 --> 01:27:16.200
is it more than two thousand I don't think so so it's so just for argument I'm rounding let's say

01:27:17.080 --> 01:27:26.120
1200 sure let's say that that's a lot of dollars of things oh yeah yeah I wasn't like stoked to hear

01:27:26.120 --> 01:27:32.840
about it but I was stoked to have you know a cool little drop for for people for the end of the year

01:27:32.840 --> 01:27:37.800
so uh do you want to fire up the the site we can show people where to find it just to be clear guys

01:27:37.800 --> 01:27:43.240
this is the same coding that we had before so it will have the same chipping issues

01:27:43.240 --> 01:27:50.600
that the original coding had if you do not like things to patina then don't buy it place place

01:27:50.600 --> 01:27:57.480
don't buy it um but if you if you do like that then then that's great and I would you know love for

01:27:57.480 --> 01:28:04.600
you to love it I don't know I'm just trying to find I hate the way that I see it chromon Android it

01:28:04.600 --> 01:28:10.600
just opens up a news feed instead of just taking me to the last tab that I was using and you have

01:28:10.600 --> 01:28:14.840
to like click continue to this tab I gotta find that setting and turn it off assuming that it is a

01:28:14.840 --> 01:28:27.240
setting um oh wait is it is it on the site I don't know uh uh oh did did anyone check I don't see it

01:28:29.000 --> 01:28:31.320
uh oh it's like on the home page

01:28:32.200 --> 01:28:42.360
okay no one put it in the screwdriver category okay well we could maybe fix that yep yep cool

01:28:42.360 --> 01:28:48.760
all right sounds good uh oh is it only on the uh global site I mean that would make sense I checked

01:28:48.760 --> 01:28:57.720
on both uh it is for sure on the front page though so that yep okay cool uh well apparently we

01:28:57.720 --> 01:29:02.440
still have stock and uh you will also receive a ten dollar gift card with this which will be emailed

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to you on january 1st 2026 or thereabouts oh it's also on the us site how is it on the us

01:29:08.520 --> 01:29:12.680
site if we just found it in the warehouse uh because we've probably shipped some down oh yeah

01:29:13.960 --> 01:29:19.960
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01:29:36.920 --> 01:29:40.840
we're on the subject of screwdrivers this is probably a good time to remind you guys that the

01:29:40.840 --> 01:29:46.840
prismagic transparent screwdriver series is one week away I'm just going to pull up the sign-up

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sheet here so you guys can see all the colors just go to uh prismagic sign-up oh it's so exciting

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or do we have a do we have a vanity URL for this uh yes LMG.gg slash sign-up prismagic okay that is

01:30:01.240 --> 01:30:08.600
not oh that's tough uh oh man is there an easier way to navigate to that okay look there is there

01:30:08.600 --> 01:30:14.200
two p's in it we're pretty new we're pretty new to being a retailer okay Dan's gonna link it in the

01:30:14.200 --> 01:30:24.760
chats the point is what is it sign up sign-up double p hey stop riz magic you're really not helping

01:30:25.400 --> 01:30:32.440
you are the rismagic uh i'm putting it in chat riz magic actually sounds like a sick like

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dj and dj riz magic back to get with a background house okay it'll be available in class

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launching on December 26 so that's on boxing day which for our american and global viewers is like

01:31:13.400 --> 01:31:20.200
commonwealth black friday um before we just also adopted black friday and now we just have both

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I have to this is extremely unimportant but I just really enjoy that when you refresh this page it

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feels like the the space where you're supposed to put your email in just like screams into existence

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thank you luke that's very helpful once you see it you cannot see it anyways um moving forward more

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down below Dan i do want to do a couple topics before we uh do more sponsor spots i also want

01:34:40.040 --> 01:34:46.440
to double check what generation of OLED panel that monitor is using so maybe luke could pick a topic

01:34:46.440 --> 01:34:57.400
while i just check something sure um i'm good thank you very much the RAM pocalypse continues

01:34:57.400 --> 01:35:03.560
as RAM continues to rise as RAM prices continue to rise del Lenovo and framework have all announced

01:35:03.640 --> 01:35:10.920
price increases and other changes due to dram shortage framework investment disclosure for

01:35:10.920 --> 01:35:17.400
mr Linus Sebastian says their DDR5 memory configs for their diy edition laptops are going

01:35:17.400 --> 01:35:25.800
to go up by 50 with possible plans to increase by even more later on del sent an email to internal

01:35:25.800 --> 01:35:31.240
employees informing of price changes including their del pro and pro max notebooks going up

01:35:32.200 --> 01:35:41.640
oh between 520 and 765 dollars for the 128 gig version or 130 to 230 dollars for the 32

01:35:41.640 --> 01:35:47.560
gig models with trend force even predicting that del and Lenovo may be going backwards

01:35:47.560 --> 01:35:53.160
and limiting devices to only have eight gigs of RAM and smaller storage community

01:35:53.160 --> 01:36:01.800
uh discussion question good luck everybody how do you stay excited about tech it seems

01:36:01.800 --> 01:36:07.080
like it's bad news after bad news uh whether it's hardware pricing shifting subscription

01:36:07.080 --> 01:36:12.120
based models or even frustrating video game news what keeps you motivated to make tech content

01:36:12.120 --> 01:36:18.600
well uh that's the world i think um i think it's bad bad news after bad news uh whether it's

01:36:18.600 --> 01:36:23.640
pricing of things everything in the world searching to subscription based models or just

01:36:23.640 --> 01:36:28.600
frustrating news about the things that we like uh i'm gonna i'm gonna come in here with a hot take

01:36:28.600 --> 01:36:34.680
that may actually end up being a full video on the channel because this is gonna this is gonna

01:36:34.680 --> 01:36:43.240
ruffle some feathers oh boy but i think that we in as tech enjoyers might just need a bit of a

01:36:43.240 --> 01:36:50.440
perspective adjustment huh in the grand scheme of things and maybe this is again i'm coming at it

01:36:50.440 --> 01:36:58.840
from my perspective right as a 90s kid a gaming computer was like started at thousands of 90s

01:36:58.840 --> 01:37:11.240
dollars and today today in 2025 dollars thousands of dollars will get you a sick gaming computer

01:37:11.240 --> 01:37:18.280
even in the midst of a rampocalypse there are other challenges that are putting pressure on

01:37:18.280 --> 01:37:25.000
disposable income uh yeah i mean you can say it sucks but like if you compare it i don't think

01:37:25.000 --> 01:37:29.480
saying we need a perspective adjustment makes sense though when when people's incomes are lower

01:37:29.480 --> 01:37:36.440
relative to costs when things that are required for living like health insurance housing um food

01:37:36.440 --> 01:37:41.960
all those types of things those costs are going way up a hundred relative money to spend on things

01:37:41.960 --> 01:37:47.240
is significantly lower so we don't have the the luxury of spending that much on a on a for fun

01:37:47.240 --> 01:37:52.440
computing device so let me may have had in the past let me expand on my point sure here's another

01:37:52.440 --> 01:37:58.920
big difference compared to when i was a kid when i was a kid if you were using a computer from 10

01:37:58.920 --> 01:38:06.280
years prior it was literal garbage it was but now you can you can play uh relatively modern games

01:38:06.280 --> 01:38:09.480
like i i have told the story a few times or forget which game it was it might have been

01:38:09.480 --> 01:38:13.960
our creators but i've been telling the story a few times about uh the son of a buddy of mine

01:38:13.960 --> 01:38:19.160
who's playing on a 2500k and playing some modern game i don't remember which one it was um

01:38:21.080 --> 01:38:29.960
so so here's the so so that's that's the thing is a kid of RAM way too expensive right now

01:38:29.960 --> 01:38:34.280
am i paying so here hold on let me know you're making that video because i've been refraining

01:38:34.280 --> 01:38:38.440
talking about the thing you're making that not the one you just mentioned but the the one i

01:38:38.440 --> 01:38:45.400
messaged you about the marketplace one um possibly it turns out it might be stale already ddr4 prices

01:38:45.400 --> 01:38:53.560
are skyrocketing and more importantly um like am4 x3d chips are skyrocketing apparently 5800

01:38:53.560 --> 01:38:57.960
x3d's are going for like figuring this out i just was hoping we'd make the video before that but

01:38:57.960 --> 01:39:05.000
so right now a 16 gig kit of RAM is around 200 us dollars what that means to the budget for like

01:39:05.000 --> 01:39:11.400
the 550 dollar gaming pc that we built a little while ago that we did a video about with an arc

01:39:11.960 --> 01:39:18.440
a GPU and a reasonably priced CPU uh kind of value power supply is that you'd probably be adding

01:39:18.440 --> 01:39:27.400
about 100 to 140 dollars to that budget so today in the midst of the RAM apocalypse you can still

01:39:27.400 --> 01:39:39.000
build like a high end 1080p mid tier 1440p gaming pc for like 700 dollars which is a lot of money

01:39:39.000 --> 01:39:49.240
and stuff but compared to just about any other hobby tech and gaming have been more inflation

01:39:49.240 --> 01:39:53.960
proof like name one name anything yeah this was this was a really interesting conversation around

01:39:53.960 --> 01:39:59.160
yeah uh the price of video games going up yeah this is like is it really it's just i i don't

01:39:59.160 --> 01:40:02.840
know i can fully understand people still being frustrated you're right 100 i think what you're

01:40:02.840 --> 01:40:09.320
saying is fair but people's ability to buy it is still non-existent so it like doesn't really matter

01:40:09.320 --> 01:40:13.560
well hold on like it can be as reasonable as it wants if i don't have the money to buy it it's still

01:40:14.360 --> 01:40:20.520
annoying hold on hold on hold on because like yeah but you also don't need to buy something brand

01:40:20.600 --> 01:40:24.520
new which is something that we have talked about so much on this channel so that's where

01:40:24.520 --> 01:40:29.000
but then you're saying price increases for those things are happening as well uh yes if you go

01:40:29.000 --> 01:40:34.840
after like the hottest items so if you want to buy like a 5800x3d sure but if you know what to look

01:40:34.840 --> 01:40:38.920
for but if you know what to look for which is what we're here for right i feel like ddr4 RAM

01:40:38.920 --> 01:40:43.640
though you're not really looking for specific parts everybody's just going to search ddr4

01:40:44.440 --> 01:40:48.760
um it i don't know it's that it's the RAM that's as bad as the way that the

01:40:50.040 --> 01:40:54.120
accompanying components are also going up so i need to i need to look into it some more

01:40:54.120 --> 01:40:58.040
this is this is one of those ones that we've like we've kind of scrummed what we basically want to

01:40:58.040 --> 01:41:03.160
talk about but we haven't sort of nailed down what the exact concept is for the script i mean i can

01:41:03.160 --> 01:41:09.080
tell you this much a second hand kit of ddr4 is definitely going to cost you as much as like

01:41:09.160 --> 01:41:15.640
60 to 70 less than a brand new kit of ddr5 which is a significant savings that is a meaningful

01:41:15.640 --> 01:41:21.480
still like right right i don't know if it was right when but like relatively short after the

01:41:21.480 --> 01:41:27.000
announcements of these like RAM issues uh if you went on like stuff like facebook marketplace

01:41:27.000 --> 01:41:33.640
whatever you could get a lot of ddr4 for not a lot of money uh so many chat talking about ddr3

01:41:33.640 --> 01:41:39.560
you're starting to get pretty old no i wouldn't go back to ddr3 yeah i don't i also don't think

01:41:39.560 --> 01:41:45.880
it's necessary to go back to ddr3 uh it depends where you're at and stuff fire pandas ask watch

01:41:45.880 --> 01:41:54.600
ask where are you pulling that from i'm looking at ebay right now um so yeah i don't know i think

01:41:54.600 --> 01:41:59.720
it's um i think it's one of those i think it's one of those things where we can look at what's

01:41:59.720 --> 01:42:06.040
going on where we've got the the covid crypto winter you know so we had the crypto winter

01:42:06.040 --> 01:42:14.520
which was exacerbated by the covid silicon shortage and then we had uh basically a multi-year

01:42:14.520 --> 01:42:23.240
sort of recovery from that that as soon as it happened literally i think it was three weeks

01:42:23.240 --> 01:42:29.960
two or three weeks after we recorded the msrp pc video but we were like holy crap for the first

01:42:29.960 --> 01:42:37.160
time in years you can buy a pc where every component is at msrp the RAM shortage hit right

01:42:37.160 --> 01:42:44.600
and so we can we can look at this and we can go oh well building computers totally sucks and we

01:42:44.600 --> 01:42:51.640
should never do it again yeah i know um or or hear me out just a second here

01:42:54.200 --> 01:43:02.280
if we actually track compared to quite literally anything else right like look at what a board game

01:43:02.280 --> 01:43:09.240
cost i think i just i i don't even necessarily disagree with you but i i would be remiss to

01:43:09.240 --> 01:43:13.720
not point out that it doesn't mean it doesn't suck it doesn't mean that it's not going to push things

01:43:13.720 --> 01:43:20.680
out of acceptable ranges for people of course it doesn't suck or of course it of course it sucks

01:43:21.240 --> 01:43:26.440
it totally sucks i just i think your opening of like people need uh whatever it was reality check

01:43:26.440 --> 01:43:31.560
or whatever it was so it's just not uh it's more that i i wish people were a little bit more

01:43:31.560 --> 01:43:38.440
appreciative of the work that goes into keeping these things as affordable as they are we did

01:43:38.520 --> 01:43:46.520
that recent tour of kyoksia their fab holy anytime you see a fab at all it's just like dude how the

01:43:46.520 --> 01:43:51.960
hell do i buy one of these things for the amount of dollars that i get it for it's crazy it's amazing

01:43:51.960 --> 01:43:58.520
and so i'm so basically what i'm doing is i'm i'm coming fresh off of off of the the actual

01:43:59.160 --> 01:44:07.080
like literal miracle like the wonder of the world that it is that we can make a microprocessor at all

01:44:08.840 --> 01:44:17.480
and then i'm going over into like i'm so angry that the five hundred dollar computer is now

01:44:17.480 --> 01:44:25.240
seven hundred dollars when a five hundred dollar computer is a miracle in the first place and so

01:44:25.240 --> 01:44:29.560
is a seven hundred dollar computer that doesn't mean you can't be annoyed about like constant

01:44:29.560 --> 01:44:36.360
extreme collusion and all these other things going on but it is still yeah it is still neat

01:44:36.360 --> 01:44:41.400
that our hobby is surprisingly cheap and the fact that the fact that over the last several years

01:44:41.400 --> 01:44:45.720
we've gotten to the point where you literally do not have to give microsoft a hundred of your

01:44:45.720 --> 01:44:51.800
dollars on top of all the hardware you bought anymore Linux that's so cool like can we just

01:44:51.800 --> 01:44:59.160
can we just take a breath for a second it could be and look at the positives it could be interesting

01:44:59.160 --> 01:45:05.240
to because i i think this event as hot as the used market has gotten it at various times it was

01:45:05.240 --> 01:45:10.920
mostly just for gpus i think this event is going to crank the use market for practically everything

01:45:10.920 --> 01:45:15.560
doing i've done some searching since i sent that message doing a scrapyard wars right now

01:45:15.560 --> 01:45:23.000
would just suck i think to be completely honest but i i think it'd be interesting maybe if we

01:45:23.000 --> 01:45:27.560
get the clicks but making a video on like how to try to validate hardware when buying stuff from

01:45:27.560 --> 01:45:35.560
a used market i've done it best you can no one cared no one cares i try so hard to like bring

01:45:35.560 --> 01:45:41.480
people to the like come on second hand water here and really good water here like i did that

01:45:41.480 --> 01:45:47.720
you just got a drink i did i did a video called i solved the GPU price crisis or whatever where

01:45:47.720 --> 01:45:54.360
basically i just like bought a 30 82nd hand and showed how to like you know what to look for to

01:45:54.360 --> 01:45:58.760
not get scammed and how to how to test it and how to validate it before you take it home and like

01:45:59.800 --> 01:46:04.440
and how to how to pick one that has like a transferable warranty and like basically yeah it was

01:46:04.440 --> 01:46:11.000
like a mini scrapyard wars of just like buying a GPU to absolutely bombed video bombed tank no one

01:46:11.000 --> 01:46:17.560
wants to hear it dude i was i was at willow yesterday yeah willow video in in langley based

01:46:18.280 --> 01:46:24.120
used place and i was i was showing emma like somewhat of this phenomena because we were there

01:46:24.120 --> 01:46:28.680
together i don't know if i think she's been there before i'm not sure but i was pointing out like

01:46:28.680 --> 01:46:36.200
look there's spider-man 2 for ps5 right there behind the desk all sealed or there's spider-man

01:46:36.200 --> 01:46:43.240
2 for ps5 right here on the other side of the counter unsealed and there's like a 30 something

01:46:43.320 --> 01:46:50.440
dollar difference it's the same game come on and people will still walk in there and just buy

01:46:50.440 --> 01:47:00.040
the new one it's like damn i can't i can't yeah i can't fathom it it doesn't um it doesn't compute

01:47:00.040 --> 01:47:09.080
for me yeah um something that you probably can fathom even though it does also suck

01:47:09.080 --> 01:47:16.280
NVIDIA reports a planned 30 to 40 cut in gforce GPU production in early 2026 it's being reported

01:47:16.280 --> 01:47:22.120
that NVIDIA plans to slash that production uh you know of course it's being assumed that this is

01:47:22.120 --> 01:47:29.640
because of the run on memory chips uh i think it's a lot more than that personally but okay

01:47:29.640 --> 01:47:35.800
the reports come from the chinese board channels forum and news site bench life whose supply chain

01:47:35.800 --> 01:47:43.560
sources claim that NVIDIA's production cuts will first hit the rtx 50 60 ti 16 gig and the rtx

01:47:43.560 --> 01:47:51.240
50 70 ti oh the ones that are like yep well the 50 70 ti is the one that like kind of makes

01:47:51.240 --> 01:48:00.040
sense in NVIDIA's lineup very cool we've used it for two recent build guides NVIDIA could use the GDDR

01:48:00.040 --> 01:48:04.760
seven from those aforementioned mid-range cards to make more of their higher and more expensive

01:48:04.840 --> 01:48:10.680
cards and ultimately make more money that's uh for sure part of it uh discussion question

01:48:10.680 --> 01:48:16.600
how might this indicate NVIDIA's pulling a reverse AMD by only manufacturing gaming GPU is focused

01:48:16.600 --> 01:48:25.800
on the top end of the market is that the future we have to look forward to what my ability to can

01:48:25.800 --> 01:48:30.120
oh i see very good

01:48:33.720 --> 01:48:35.960
i think they also just man don't care

01:48:38.360 --> 01:48:45.640
i think they they feel like a requirement to care about gforce because of i don't know pedigree

01:48:45.640 --> 01:48:52.360
history old times the the horse that got us here type mentality but i think it's a tenth of their

01:48:52.360 --> 01:48:58.200
revenue now when is the last time they talked about it in a way that is like we care about this a lot

01:48:59.400 --> 01:49:06.280
we care about raster performance and gaming even last ces it was all just like how much ai

01:49:06.280 --> 01:49:18.440
enhances gforce yeah so why and then like look at how and you know i'm totally including myself

01:49:18.440 --> 01:49:23.800
in this but look at how annoying we are compared to enterprise customers it'll just pay whatever

01:49:23.800 --> 01:49:28.200
oh yeah and just want it as soon as they can get it and if there's like weird problems they'll just

01:49:28.200 --> 01:49:34.280
like work with you on the higher engineers to do that fix it yeah um enterprise customers that

01:49:34.280 --> 01:49:41.560
are getting crazy boku bucks investment dollars aren't gonna care and so they're spending someone

01:49:41.560 --> 01:49:47.720
else's money yeah right a customer who is spending their own money is always which is going to be an

01:49:47.720 --> 01:49:52.760
order of magnitude more difficult to deal with than a customer who's spending someone else's money

01:49:52.760 --> 01:49:59.480
yeah always and especially when they're spending someone else's money to make money for themselves

01:49:59.480 --> 01:50:04.440
and that that is like a default for companies at pretty much any scale because you're an employee

01:50:04.440 --> 01:50:08.440
to company you're just spending your company money it's not as like you're not going to be as careful

01:50:08.440 --> 01:50:15.800
with it but also especially at this scale where we're talking like uh hello yes i will take this

01:50:15.800 --> 01:50:26.840
many like container fulls of graphics cards please um yeah just remember you know just try to remember

01:50:26.840 --> 01:50:34.200
a little bit on the hopeful other side of this um how different companies acted and then if you care

01:50:34.200 --> 01:50:38.760
vote with your wallets uh zirgon asked an interesting question how much has your badminton

01:50:39.320 --> 01:50:45.800
inflated uh in compared to pc's over the time that you've been doing it so since i used to play

01:50:45.800 --> 01:50:53.800
back at ncix badminton has gotten substantially more expensive rackets actually not too bad

01:50:53.800 --> 01:50:59.720
so they have benefited from increased economies of scale and better mass production techniques

01:50:59.720 --> 01:51:06.200
and and more automation probably not the birdies um actually shuttles are brutal yeah um so badminton

01:51:06.280 --> 01:51:11.880
shuttles are that's what i meant oh i see are being impacted by a major worldwide shortage in

01:51:11.880 --> 01:51:17.400
goose feathers specifically the ones off the left wing of the goose because the shuttle has to spin

01:51:17.400 --> 01:51:20.920
a particular way and if you use the feathers from the right wing they'll spin the other way

01:51:22.200 --> 01:51:30.440
and also court time so i'm going to shout out some of my buds who run or work at some courts in the

01:51:30.440 --> 01:51:35.640
lower mainland when i got into uh when i got into badminton it was about 20 bucks an hour

01:51:35.640 --> 01:51:41.880
to rent a court so ersc um where my buddy jason shum works uh they are now charging

01:51:44.520 --> 01:51:51.480
30 that's weekdays before 5 p.m that is like that is like the garbage time the slow time

01:51:51.480 --> 01:51:59.880
so it's 36 an hour so that's over a span of about so this would be about um the ncix times

01:52:00.440 --> 01:52:06.360
just shy of 20 years so this is going back to like 2000 2008 or so why does it just say

01:52:07.320 --> 01:52:13.320
what's up package oh oh yeah if you buy if you buy a bunch then you can get a yeah it's a slight

01:52:13.320 --> 01:52:18.840
deal that's honestly not that much i showed up my buddy ringo uh how much does uh does a court

01:52:18.840 --> 01:52:23.880
rental cut where the ringo where the heck is your court rental price wasn't that what we were just

01:52:23.880 --> 01:52:29.640
looking at yeah it was a different site oh stringing service lesson faq where's your where's

01:52:29.640 --> 01:52:37.240
your price ring go okay well i'm trying to oh court rental there we go all right it's hiding

01:52:37.880 --> 01:52:47.240
wait i just call uh oh here we go here we go uh yep 34 bucks uh going up going up in january

01:52:47.240 --> 01:52:52.440
clear one shout out my boy daryl uh let's see the yeah richmond

01:52:54.760 --> 01:53:01.320
here we go so yeah 20 bucks has gone up to oh sure why not

01:53:03.480 --> 01:53:08.920
oh my god uh got uh rentals what happened here we go court rental 30 bucks

01:53:08.920 --> 01:53:16.840
uh and daryl's um if you can get a court there because he's really focused on training at his

01:53:16.840 --> 01:53:23.800
facility uh he actually runs the training programs for us at smash champs i would use smash champs

01:53:23.800 --> 01:53:28.520
as an example but what's the point of that that's a facility that i control the pricing of and that

01:53:28.520 --> 01:53:32.680
doesn't doesn't have a long history but all of these places would have been closer to about

01:53:32.680 --> 01:53:39.720
20 bucks an hour back in the day and a tube of shuttles would have been like 20 25 bucks whereas

01:53:39.720 --> 01:53:47.800
now um a top tier yonex shuttle is like i think approaching a hundred dollars canadian retail

01:53:48.360 --> 01:53:52.680
for like goose feather so very few people are playing with goose feather and like the lower

01:53:52.680 --> 01:53:59.240
end ones are more like uh 40 plus you're talking a tube yeah yeah 12 12 shuttles yeah it's been

01:53:59.240 --> 01:54:04.520
it's been absolutely brutal i was chatting with um a buddy who runs a bunch of clubs in taiwan

01:54:04.520 --> 01:54:09.720
and he's like yeah this is gonna this has the potential to kill our sport if it just gets

01:54:09.720 --> 01:54:16.520
too unaffordable would would people accept lower quality shuttles where are you talking

01:54:16.520 --> 01:54:26.600
the court rentals um navy rymar says shouting out a competitor is based i don't i i have always

01:54:26.760 --> 01:54:34.360
different view had a bit of a different view on competition i think that competition is healthy

01:54:34.360 --> 01:54:40.040
i think it is good for the consumer i think that you can have competition without animosity

01:54:40.040 --> 01:54:48.360
i think that you can have friendly rivalry do i compete with ringo and jason and darryl yes

01:54:48.920 --> 01:54:55.880
can we collaborate yes there's also this idea that like if you all together make the sport

01:54:55.880 --> 01:55:02.040
of badminton more popular in the area you just all win this is the the whole rising tide thing it

01:55:02.040 --> 01:55:07.960
applies to so many different realms and people realize it's this is not um smash champs also

01:55:07.960 --> 01:55:14.520
isn't in really you didn't open one next door yeah yeah and why would i different market why should i

01:55:14.520 --> 01:55:22.920
yeah and i'll shout out my boy melissa whatever boy don't worry about it the point is umo pro shop

01:55:22.920 --> 01:55:27.400
good shop we're competing with them hard we're probably going to go into e-tail and we're gonna

01:55:27.400 --> 01:55:33.080
we're gonna compete with them online that's fine i can still respect the hell out of melissa's hustle

01:55:33.080 --> 01:55:37.080
and and ideally you're bringing more people to space and we can both make each other better and

01:55:37.080 --> 01:55:42.440
it'll be great everyone will be happy yeah and sometimes someone will not be happy and they

01:55:42.440 --> 01:55:46.440
will get out competed but i think then they need to they need to reflect they need to look in the

01:55:46.440 --> 01:55:50.680
mirror i i believe in healthy competition and if that's me then what i need to do is i need to

01:55:50.680 --> 01:55:56.600
look in the mirror and i have to figure out how to do it better so yeah no i'm uh and i walk this

01:55:56.600 --> 01:56:02.760
walk in a lot of healthy competition environments people will help each other compete against each

01:56:02.760 --> 01:56:08.760
other often like it's because it's not about crushing the other party it's about doing better

01:56:09.400 --> 01:56:14.680
and if you're all like just killing it it's very likely that your industry is just gonna grow

01:56:15.400 --> 01:56:20.200
yes because if you're all actually doing that well it's probably gonna be an exciting place to be

01:56:20.200 --> 01:56:23.560
for for consumers and everyone else there and your industry is just gonna grow and it's just

01:56:23.560 --> 01:56:34.440
gonna be really good 100 yeah okay what do you want to talk about next i'm scrolling through

01:56:35.320 --> 01:56:41.080
i can save my story time about nine bots terrible customer service for next week all right it's not

01:56:41.080 --> 01:56:44.600
even terrible customer service their customer service was pretty good but i'm not happy with

01:56:44.600 --> 01:56:49.000
the resolution we should talk about that but maybe yeah let's do that oh next week's probably also

01:56:49.000 --> 01:56:54.840
not gonna be super long well we'll see how it goes okay uh my whole thing has changed i can just

01:56:55.640 --> 01:56:58.600
do it at the normal time it's fine okay you do whatever works for you

01:57:00.360 --> 01:57:04.280
oh what day of the week is it next week are we gonna be spending Christmas together on the

01:57:04.280 --> 01:57:11.160
boxing day yeah 20 next year is Christmas day okay cool actually that'll still be fine

01:57:12.040 --> 01:57:19.880
okay uh there's i mean there's the tech house plans there's a 3d printing farm uh oh

01:57:19.880 --> 01:57:29.240
LTT sells fake ptm 7950 oh just kidding uh egor's lab published a review of our ptm 7950 titled

01:57:29.240 --> 01:57:37.960
Linus tech tips ptm 7950 review original oem product or fake proud to say that we got egor's

01:57:37.960 --> 01:57:45.400
lab uh badge of approval it's the genuine article thanks for the extensive testing and also uh

01:57:46.120 --> 01:57:50.520
the the writers of this included a quote which i also love so i'm happy they included this quote

01:57:51.880 --> 01:57:58.680
this pad is from the edge of the cake among the ptm 7950 products not intended for industrial

01:57:58.680 --> 01:58:05.560
showcases but fully fledged powerful and in practice at least as good as what is otherwise

01:58:05.560 --> 01:58:13.320
lying perfectly cut in the display and sometimes as i knew even as a child these are the pieces

01:58:13.320 --> 01:58:24.440
with the best bite i actually love tldr it's all good um yeah i exchanged a handful of emails with

01:58:24.440 --> 01:58:35.000
egor about this um you know from my point of view i i appreciate i appreciate his passion for the

01:58:35.000 --> 01:58:44.520
subject that is what i can say is you know if there was ever a concern that you had that there was

01:58:44.600 --> 01:58:53.320
nobody out there like obsessively validating thermal compound you can lay that concern to rest

01:58:54.840 --> 01:59:02.840
because egor is obsessively evaluating thermal compound sick i wouldn't have thought it possible

01:59:02.840 --> 01:59:12.920
to write a five page review of because it's it's just ptm 7950 like we just we're pretty

01:59:13.800 --> 01:59:19.960
i i think as transparent as we can possibly be i did not develop a thermal compound no i do not

01:59:19.960 --> 01:59:27.480
have the engineering and or manufacturing expertise or capital to develop an industry leading

01:59:27.560 --> 01:59:33.720
thermal compound i accept that i i accept that about myself and my business acumen and resources

01:59:34.680 --> 01:59:40.760
so what i did is i took a thing that exists already that someone told us was good and that we

01:59:40.760 --> 01:59:45.720
validated we thought was pretty cool too and then really smart people have told us is really good

01:59:45.720 --> 01:59:52.600
and then we made a box really skinny box it's so skinny it is a skinny box it's a skinny

01:59:52.840 --> 01:59:59.480
colorful too it's got orange on it we made it three colors we put it right on there yep we did it

01:59:59.480 --> 02:00:09.000
yep go read it um and uh and so i wouldn't have thought that it was possible to write a five

02:00:09.000 --> 02:00:15.880
page article about our endeavors to put a box on a product that existed but he did it and with flare

02:00:15.880 --> 02:00:22.600
as uh as as luke pointed out maybe even with the minimum 16 pieces of flare

02:00:24.120 --> 02:00:27.400
i thought it was pretty great and honestly it's a it's a fair enough question

02:00:28.120 --> 02:00:33.080
because apparently this is like a thing that it's faked often and it's like hard to find which

02:00:33.080 --> 02:00:37.800
is why we sourced it in the first place difficult to get it from the official company and and and

02:00:37.800 --> 02:00:45.640
all that jazz but we didn't um we we didn't source it from a fake source so there was there was no

02:00:45.640 --> 02:00:52.520
concern in my mind that you know we were selling fake ptm 79 50 um yeah but if someone's asking

02:00:52.520 --> 02:01:00.760
the question i appreciate that you gore answered it yep yep i mean i uh yeah that's good nice

02:01:01.560 --> 02:01:06.920
and sick quote it's so awesome it's actually just a great read

02:01:08.440 --> 02:01:12.520
are we talking about your wikipedia article in Floatplane chat right now yeah i didn't know

02:01:12.520 --> 02:01:19.320
this was the thing yeah i uh i caught this earlier this week uh so someone attempted to

02:01:20.040 --> 02:01:27.080
create a wikipedia entry for mr luke lafrenier um who was declined for not being notable enough

02:01:27.080 --> 02:01:35.800
but i actually take no hold on a second i actually what's it actually which one's that

02:01:35.800 --> 02:01:42.040
where's that one that that's what people said on reddit i actually don't see that in the uh

02:01:42.920 --> 02:01:47.320
that's funny though hold on that is they do not show significant coverage about the subject

02:01:48.040 --> 02:01:57.720
yeah yeah basically yeah pretty much based um however however however i actually i i think

02:01:57.720 --> 02:02:04.040
that that might be a self promotion issue for you so one of the things that makes someone

02:02:04.040 --> 02:02:11.160
notable is how often they've been covered in third party media but we've talked about this

02:02:11.160 --> 02:02:18.120
a fair bit in the past where i will often get like spam to my inbox that's like hey we're

02:02:18.120 --> 02:02:25.640
publishing a list of the top 10 tech influencers or you know the top most influential people in

02:02:25.640 --> 02:02:32.840
in technology and media or uh social media or whatever um do you uh we'd love to include you

02:02:32.920 --> 02:02:39.800
that'll be five hundred dollars or whatever so uh i actually strongly believe

02:02:41.000 --> 02:02:46.840
that with a little bit of effort you are very influential with a little bit you're saying i

02:02:46.840 --> 02:02:52.120
could i could very broadly known by influence i think we just i think we just need to play the

02:02:52.120 --> 02:02:57.160
game i just think we need to play the game a little bit you know if it's third party sources

02:02:57.160 --> 02:03:01.480
that they need which is what i'm seeing here the only thing that i think they need to include

02:03:01.480 --> 02:03:07.640
is the handling of the the hard hard event and then you'll have infinite third party sources yeah

02:03:07.640 --> 02:03:12.440
well i mean you don't want your entire wikipedia article to just be like he's saved minus his

02:03:12.440 --> 02:03:18.440
company yeah but that's what that's what gets it through the door and then you can add the fun

02:03:18.440 --> 02:03:28.280
stuff what is it like early life rise to fame strife downfall notable controversies

02:03:31.800 --> 02:03:34.920
yeah controversy and then and then array one two three four five six

02:03:37.400 --> 02:03:42.200
i don't know i think that with a little bit of effort and i'm gonna throw this i'm gonna throw

02:03:42.200 --> 02:03:46.920
this back to the community a little bit oh no we could maybe you know we could maybe

02:03:47.560 --> 02:03:55.560
prod some publications or maybe maybe just uh you know get get some invitations get some

02:03:55.560 --> 02:04:00.680
invitations for interviews no no like being interviewed by people is important okay like

02:04:02.120 --> 02:04:07.160
i'm trying to remember because i i my initial couple of those the community tried to get me

02:04:07.160 --> 02:04:12.200
on there a number of times before they ultimately succeeded and i don't remember what the threshold

02:04:12.200 --> 02:04:18.520
was but it was also i was rejected for not being notable until such time as some arbiter of who's

02:04:18.520 --> 02:04:23.320
notable on wikipedia decided i was notable right i mean here's something that here's

02:04:23.320 --> 02:04:29.080
something that could potentially um that could potentially understand like if there's a wikipedia

02:04:29.080 --> 02:04:32.920
page for everyone then it just gets a little bit ridiculous yeah that's and that's fair enough

02:04:32.920 --> 02:04:38.840
yeah should we should we talk about the thing i don't i'm not offended by this uh talking about uh

02:04:38.840 --> 02:04:49.080
what you know the thing 30 minute warning this might not be the show i'm not even i just i think

02:04:49.080 --> 02:04:54.040
it's maybe not i think we do it the one after next week maybe dr gizmo says the thing so that we

02:04:54.040 --> 02:05:00.200
have more time luke 103 says yes we haven't done after dark crystal says crystal says thing

02:05:03.960 --> 02:05:07.560
i'm just saying i think there's not time i think we do it the week after next week

02:05:07.560 --> 02:05:13.160
i'm not even i don't think i'm but we have to do after there's merch messages i'm sure we have to

02:05:13.160 --> 02:05:18.840
do after dark and i suspect that might end up i suspect that'll either be a very short

02:05:18.840 --> 02:05:22.600
or very long conversation have people even have we even told people how to send

02:05:22.600 --> 02:05:27.400
merch messages yet no like this one crap this is what i'm talking about this we're gonna have

02:05:27.400 --> 02:05:33.800
time brother did i finish the rest of the sponsors good lord we do not have time this is not the

02:05:33.800 --> 02:05:42.040
show um hey it's that time of year to buy something on lttstore.com uh you could pick up uh some of

02:05:42.040 --> 02:05:47.000
the new it might help my articles that we have right now buy a commuter bag today get $50 to spend

02:05:47.000 --> 02:05:52.040
or hey we've got a limited very very very limited number of black shaft screwdrivers so you could

02:05:52.040 --> 02:05:58.440
go ahead and add a commuter bag add to cart boom head to the cart and you'll see ah yes the interface

02:05:58.440 --> 02:06:05.560
to send a merch message it will go to producer Dan who will um probably this week mostly not

02:06:05.560 --> 02:06:10.680
curate too many of them because i do have a heart out in a little bit and uh i mean or you guys could

02:06:10.680 --> 02:06:15.080
hang and do some merch messages after i leave either way uh he will also maybe like respond to you

02:06:15.080 --> 02:06:19.320
or forward it to someone who can help with your message or you place your order and then instead

02:06:19.320 --> 02:06:23.720
of just throwing money at your screen you can throw money at amazing merchandise like our quality

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commuter bag or uh or a cool hoodie like the one that i'm wearing or a cool shirt oh luke's wearing

02:06:29.160 --> 02:06:35.240
the glitch shirt so you could go into your cart and you can be like glitch please and then you'd

02:06:35.240 --> 02:06:40.600
get a glitch shirt that would be quality Dan uh why don't we do one merch message to show people

02:06:40.600 --> 02:06:44.840
how merch messages work sure hey dearlo when considering the tech house were you afraid

02:06:44.840 --> 02:06:49.080
that having the easiest house would affect your ability to make entertaining and more quote on

02:06:49.080 --> 02:06:57.800
quote universal upgrade videos for others to watch no because um there will be in my mind the tech

02:06:57.800 --> 02:07:10.600
house is just the beginning in my in my mind we we we take town no in my mind tech small city

02:07:12.600 --> 02:07:21.880
interesting rv park oh in my in my mind this is just the first one

02:07:22.840 --> 02:07:29.720
so we want i wanted to it's just like i said at the beginning of the video i wanted to have

02:07:29.720 --> 02:07:35.240
something that is somewhat relatable that people could follow along at home a bit where we have

02:07:35.240 --> 02:07:40.040
to solve real world problems you know we're gonna have to be we're gonna fish wire up through

02:07:40.040 --> 02:07:43.960
through walls we're gonna we're gonna solve real problems whether we do it intentionally or

02:07:43.960 --> 02:07:48.360
unintentionally because like we might i'm honestly really excited for this we might pull a bunch of

02:07:48.360 --> 02:07:53.000
the drywall off to make it easier to run a lot of the wiring and then we might realize that

02:07:53.000 --> 02:07:56.360
oops we got to run another one and we're gonna have to figure that out we're gonna what if you

02:07:56.360 --> 02:08:01.960
find a mold then we're gonna have to solve that oh my so we're gonna it's gonna be challenging

02:08:01.960 --> 02:08:06.920
i'm not worried it's not going to be challenging enough but i did want one where i kind of had

02:08:06.920 --> 02:08:12.680
a pretty good vision of like what it kind of might look like and how we might tackle these

02:08:12.680 --> 02:08:20.360
challenges if this goes well if it's a huge success then i could totally see us doing

02:08:20.360 --> 02:08:25.800
something very similar with a condo something very similar with a more challenging house you

02:08:25.800 --> 02:08:30.600
know with uh with a rancher that's right on a slab where we have to like really dig deep and

02:08:30.600 --> 02:08:36.760
find solutions uh no i'm i'm super excited about it and i think it's going to be flipping awesome pun

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intended um

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dark territory but um a school security ai flagged a clarinet as a gun and apparently it was

02:11:02.040 --> 02:11:07.160
supposed to do that a florida middle school went into lockdown after an ai security system

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flagged a student's clarinet as a gun sending police rushing to the campus for what they believed

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was an active shooter situation officers later confirmed there was no threat and the weapon

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was a band instrument carried by a student in a holiday costume the ai system made by zero eyes

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scans security camera footage for firearms and alert school officials and police despite the

02:11:26.520 --> 02:11:30.760
false alarm the company said the system worked as intended arguing that it is better to act on

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uncertainty than to risk missing a real threat a position the school appeared to support critics

02:11:36.040 --> 02:11:40.680
say that incidents like this highlight the risks of ai-based school security pointing to past cases

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where similar systems have mistaken harmless objects for guns and caused panic they argue the

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tools are expensive unproven and may increase stress and police confrontations rather than

02:11:50.440 --> 02:11:57.240
improve student safety sending a bunch of extremely high stress people with firearms into a situation

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where they think kids are being shot at because of a mistake well i support this because i just

02:12:03.880 --> 02:12:10.040
played hate the clarinet i'm just i'm kidding it was just a joke but we need to move on anyway

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hopefully it was uh called off before they got there um yeah anyways uh a former amazon oh you

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know what let's do this one next week too okay yeah i mean there's a lot of topics yeah i don't

02:12:25.000 --> 02:12:29.720
know what happened because i thought you message saying there was like none i did and i don't recognize

02:12:29.720 --> 02:12:34.040
a lot of these they weren't you say that every single week i do not say that every week i just

02:12:34.040 --> 02:12:39.400
say it a lot though every week that's not true oh there's no topics i have not seen this facebook

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one facebook has apparently tested limiting users to a maximum of two shared links per month

02:12:46.600 --> 02:12:54.120
unless they pay for meta verified uh links in only two organic posts per month if they're not

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verified users who hit the two link limit are prompted to subscribe to meta verified if they

02:12:59.880 --> 02:13:06.120
wish to share additional external links they are in the business of getting scammers to pay the money

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we talked about this earlier in the show maybe it's just more of that the trial currently focuses on

02:13:11.480 --> 02:13:16.200
a subset of independent creators and pages that are using professional mode notably traditional

02:13:16.200 --> 02:13:20.760
news publishers are excluded from this specific test for the time being though it is worth noting

02:13:20.760 --> 02:13:25.480
that in many countries um they can't share news on facebook due to attribution and compensation

02:13:25.480 --> 02:13:29.640
laws that meta doesn't want to deal with anyway okay cool that was all i had to say about that

02:13:29.640 --> 02:13:37.880
facebook sucks cool um let's move this one to next week i'm just going to highlight it

02:13:39.800 --> 02:13:46.200
next week this is weird sure go for it uh youtube is letting creators make playable games with a

02:13:46.360 --> 02:13:53.160
gemini 3 tool youtube is testing a new feature that lets creators build yeah uh the the project

02:13:53.160 --> 02:13:59.960
called playable's builder is launching as an open beta for select creators the tool works through

02:13:59.960 --> 02:14:06.680
a web app that lets creators describe a game in plain language with no coding required youtube has

02:14:06.680 --> 02:14:11.480
already been experimenting with small games on its platform since 2023 and added multiplayer

02:14:11.480 --> 02:14:17.000
support last year so this is an expansion of that idea with ai doing most of the setup work

02:14:18.200 --> 02:14:24.760
youtube says that the goal is to make quick bite sized games that viewers can play inside youtube

02:14:25.960 --> 02:14:32.680
why on on desktop or mobile not full-scale releases think simple interactive experiences

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rather than polish story driven titles or console style games critics point out that while ai can

02:14:37.800 --> 02:14:42.520
help generate basic game mechanics making a game that's actually fun usually takes iteration design

02:14:42.520 --> 02:14:46.440
skill and human judgment because ai can create a game doesn't mean people want to play it

02:14:48.680 --> 02:14:59.640
okay okay so it's like really bad frog game i guess but you're blue now nice

02:15:00.040 --> 02:15:10.440
so it's gaming slop you are running in dirt so the name of the game seems oh that was it i

02:15:10.440 --> 02:15:21.480
can't tell what are obstacles and what are died yeah um okay well that was something

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uh cool i um i guess for me the big question is why yeah that's for sure that's my same

02:15:36.920 --> 02:15:43.480
question as well netflix tried games i don't think that worked out mm-hmm i don't feel like youtube

02:15:43.480 --> 02:15:52.840
needs games study zone my new task is to finish the WAN Show like what am i i do i check it off

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achievement unlocked first steps my like biggest concern about youtube right now is that they seem

02:15:58.600 --> 02:16:06.760
to be pushing towards shorts quite a bit and oh god it's so much it's getting so bad are literally

02:16:07.320 --> 02:16:12.360
called by a lot of people like slop or brain rot or something else like that

02:16:12.360 --> 02:16:19.080
and youtube was always known as a like wholesome community platform that is awesome is questionable

02:16:19.080 --> 02:16:23.960
but definitely community no in a lot of ways i think it's seen community and wholesome i think

02:16:23.960 --> 02:16:29.880
have a lot of paired connotations this is my homepage right now an ad it is more than half

02:16:29.960 --> 02:16:39.880
shorts two live streams five shorts that's all that's above the full zero vods i get three vods

02:16:39.880 --> 02:16:48.600
one of which is an ad so that i can shop i get this youtube playable garbage stupid then i get

02:16:48.600 --> 02:16:55.320
another live stream finally a vaude and oh my god i got rick rolled that is the first two no no no

02:16:55.560 --> 02:17:02.520
that's a mix these keep coming up as well more shorts it's a mix it's different more ad the rick

02:17:02.520 --> 02:17:11.960
roll is like something different it's not like a video full width ad like this sucks and i'm

02:17:11.960 --> 02:17:19.720
worried that youtube is going down a not good path in regards to i've raised this it's it's like

02:17:19.720 --> 02:17:25.320
future legitimacy i've i've raised this i've uh the ability for outside companies to

02:17:26.680 --> 02:17:34.200
encroach on its part of the internet i i i um i can't raise this any more often than i already

02:17:34.200 --> 02:17:39.240
raise it you're dumping mud into your own moat like

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how about just let someone else be the brain rot platform and you can i think you can have

02:17:47.240 --> 02:17:51.560
shorts on it i don't think shorts existing on youtube is the problem i think it's the promotion

02:17:51.560 --> 02:17:58.200
level of them make trying to make it the primary part of youtube i think is actually a very very

02:17:58.200 --> 02:18:09.000
bad idea um yeah so the point where if you really want to do that i almost think it should be a

02:18:09.000 --> 02:18:16.120
separate app anyway i'm trying to do too much you're trying to be a gaming platform you're

02:18:16.120 --> 02:18:19.880
trying to be v shorts platform trying to be a live streaming platform trying to be a valid

02:18:19.880 --> 02:18:27.960
platform trying to be a post comment thing platform trying to be tv and what i mean by that is like

02:18:27.960 --> 02:18:38.200
old school tv um not the fact that it's on a tv to be clear um it's it's rough i have within the

02:18:38.200 --> 02:18:45.720
last like year i think i've never heard so much negative sentiment about what youtube is yeah

02:18:46.520 --> 02:18:51.880
and what i mean by that is again attaching to words like brain rot ai slop things like that

02:18:51.880 --> 02:18:55.480
i've never heard that type of stuff generally people are very positive about

02:18:55.480 --> 02:18:59.720
what youtube is and might be very negative about things that are on it or how aggressively they

02:18:59.720 --> 02:19:04.760
monetize it sure something like that but youtube at its core everyone was always very positive

02:19:04.760 --> 02:19:10.120
about and then that is now changing and that's a and they resisted the urge you know back when

02:19:10.120 --> 02:19:19.240
vine was a thing youtube resisted the urge to just be vine or be snapchat or be you know whatever more

02:19:21.400 --> 02:19:29.080
digestible rapid fire content was you know they didn't have to add you know DMing they didn't

02:19:29.080 --> 02:19:35.880
have to add you know short form vertical videos that you can swipe through they they really didn't

02:19:35.880 --> 02:19:42.440
have to add this game they really didn't have a lot of of extreme addiction actually extremely

02:19:42.440 --> 02:19:46.920
bad for you things yes people would spend way too much time on youtube whatever and yes that was

02:19:46.920 --> 02:19:53.640
their business model and still is for sure but there are rather extreme levels of manipulation

02:19:53.640 --> 02:19:58.600
when it comes to short form content which is like actually bad for your brain and like extremely

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hijacking dope and numeric blah blah blah things that i don't understand go watch someone else

02:20:02.760 --> 02:20:07.240
talk about it i don't anything about medical stuff please don't hate me uh it's it's yeah there you

02:20:07.240 --> 02:20:14.200
go but it's it's it's they're not they're not like good for us shorts are highly questionable as a

02:20:14.200 --> 02:20:19.240
thing and algorithmic tuning too was was something that i feel like they were more thoughtful about

02:20:19.240 --> 02:20:23.720
in the past i remember having a long conversation with them back when you remember that trend when

02:20:23.720 --> 02:20:28.440
it was just red hot knives cutting through things was like half of the stupid videos and the other

02:20:28.440 --> 02:20:33.320
half were like how many how many m&m's can you flush down a toilet yep and i was basically like i

02:20:33.320 --> 02:20:39.800
talked to them i was like look i'm not just sitting here whining and moaning because you know my more

02:20:39.800 --> 02:20:44.840
technical actually requires a little bit of cognitive load content is like getting fewer

02:20:44.840 --> 02:20:51.800
views right now obviously that's a concern for me i do wish to be promoted uh you know on the

02:20:51.800 --> 02:20:57.960
platform right but if your bar is going to be that anything that doesn't get the click through

02:20:57.960 --> 02:21:03.400
if you are this platform now gummy bears in a toilet or or red hot knives cutting through

02:21:03.400 --> 02:21:10.600
watermelons or or pieces of feces or you know whatever whatever it is if i can achieve that

02:21:10.600 --> 02:21:17.000
level of click through then i just like don't get my videos served is that going to be good

02:21:17.000 --> 02:21:23.000
for your platform in the longer term is that going to be good for the creator ecosystem that you're

02:21:23.000 --> 02:21:28.840
trying to build where people can have predictable stable performance that allows them to hire people

02:21:28.840 --> 02:21:36.280
and build businesses is that what you want and i feel like they've lost track of youtube felt

02:21:36.280 --> 02:21:45.240
like it was being built for the forever and right now again over the very relatively short period

02:21:45.240 --> 02:21:50.600
time maybe a year somewhere around that it really feels like they are it's been rough diving extremely

02:21:50.600 --> 02:21:58.840
hard for the short term which is not a game they even need to win they were effectively 100%

02:21:58.840 --> 02:22:06.520
of the market share of the forever video platform win that you already had every eyeball of everyone

02:22:06.520 --> 02:22:10.840
on the planet basically you know how they they stopped reporting like user change because it was

02:22:10.840 --> 02:22:22.040
effectively population change yeah like dude you won please don't grasp defeat from the jaws of

02:22:22.040 --> 02:22:28.440
victory it's not necessary and you can still not do it in other news the chat gpt app store is here

02:22:30.440 --> 02:22:34.680
open ai has opened up app submissions for chat gpt letting developers publish apps

02:22:34.680 --> 02:22:39.720
that run directly inside the chat bot and appear in a new app directory these apps can extend

02:22:39.800 --> 02:22:44.680
conversations by taking actions like ordering groceries building slide decks or searching for

02:22:44.680 --> 02:22:51.160
apartments without leaving chat gpt oh good developers can build apps using the apps sdk in

02:22:51.160 --> 02:22:55.880
beta and submit them through the open ai developer platform approved apps will begin rolling out next

02:22:55.880 --> 02:23:01.480
year and can be discovered through chat gpt's tools menu or triggered directly in conversations

02:23:01.480 --> 02:23:06.280
for now monetization is limited to linking out to external websites or apps while open ai says

02:23:06.280 --> 02:23:11.320
that it's exploring future options like digital goods all apps must follow safety and privacy

02:23:11.320 --> 02:23:16.840
rules that shouldn't be too hard with clear data disclosures and easy ways for users to disconnect

02:23:16.840 --> 02:23:22.120
canva expedia spotify and trip advisor are already available with app integration although the new

02:23:22.120 --> 02:23:27.400
store is being launched with an open call for developers to put new apps on the platform

02:23:27.400 --> 02:23:36.520
cool um i really just don't want to talk about that so why don't we do some rich messages yeah

02:23:36.520 --> 02:23:37.000
sounds good

02:23:40.200 --> 02:23:43.640
ham netics says number one selling out girlfriend no way is that true

02:23:45.640 --> 02:23:51.320
no it was a mrs uh krabapal honk uh they're calling me a goose

02:23:51.320 --> 02:24:00.440
this is this is why i have to play on my phone the whole time and the way it takes too long

02:24:00.440 --> 02:24:07.720
okay yeah i got a couple here for you let's see hey Dan tell Linus and luke i say hi uh calder

02:24:07.720 --> 02:24:13.960
says hi technically you did that yourself i recently programmed some automation dockers

02:24:13.960 --> 02:24:18.840
and without chat gpt it would have taken four times as long are there any better ways to

02:24:18.840 --> 02:24:22.040
learn to code or my stuck with chat gpt luke's face

02:24:27.160 --> 02:24:36.200
i can i can feel the the cringe from here man i mean uh man i really enjoy this person's channel

02:24:36.200 --> 02:24:40.360
sometimes when they release videos because i think there's big gas between them but i might be wrong

02:24:40.360 --> 02:24:46.120
i might just not see them that often but um basically homeless we've talked about him on

02:24:46.120 --> 02:24:51.000
my show before yeah i'm certain he had a video out recently that i i thought was fantastic

02:24:51.000 --> 02:24:54.920
which is this one i tried switching to Linux for yeah there's some big gas for new videos okay i'm

02:24:54.920 --> 02:25:03.160
not crazy um the i tried switching to Linux for 157 days very interesting video uh fun ads um

02:25:03.160 --> 02:25:08.600
used to youtube premium so whenever i see ads on youtube i'm like what that's not allowed yeah um

02:25:08.600 --> 02:25:15.640
but yeah great great video in general go watch it but um one of the topics that he brings up

02:25:15.640 --> 02:25:23.320
is that the accessibility of running Linux is actually kind of a lot higher thanks to if you're

02:25:23.320 --> 02:25:27.240
like hey i'm having this problem and it's like oh just copy paste this into command line and you're

02:25:27.240 --> 02:25:32.920
done and it's like oh cool command line's a lot less scary and i mean there's questionable things

02:25:32.920 --> 02:25:37.480
about letting you know ai run your command line but a command line is a lot less scary when you're

02:25:37.480 --> 02:25:43.240
just you don't have to learn what every little part of the command means when you're just copy

02:25:43.320 --> 02:25:50.680
pasting it um it's a it's a very it's very interesting video check it out um and in the same way this

02:25:50.680 --> 02:25:54.040
makes it easier for you to do what you're doing but it's questionable whether you're actually

02:25:54.040 --> 02:26:00.120
learning are you actually learning actually learning coding yes i and if your goal isn't

02:26:00.120 --> 02:26:06.200
necessarily to actually learn it okay yeah you can also prompt things in a way where you make it

02:26:06.200 --> 02:26:11.480
like you know don't actually give me the answer yep just like you like you can make it try to

02:26:11.480 --> 02:26:18.120
teach you but it won't do that by default no and i think the vast majority of people are not using

02:26:18.120 --> 02:26:23.560
these things in that way so like if we're being realistic um in a lot of ways it's actually stopping

02:26:23.560 --> 02:26:32.440
you from learning the thing and again that might be okay depending on your objective um but yeah

02:26:32.520 --> 02:26:41.000
i mean there's who's ringing uh that's me sorry um it's it's um i don't know there's lots of

02:26:41.000 --> 02:26:48.840
there's a what's that one company i've heard they're cool they do like larion yeah um no it's i

02:26:48.840 --> 02:26:52.760
don't remember what they're called but they do there's like a very gamified way of learning to

02:26:52.760 --> 02:26:56.920
code how pathetic is it that i'm sitting here struggling to think of another cool company

02:26:57.800 --> 02:27:05.000
oh the ones that have the kind of like friendly cano do they still exist maybe that's it i don't

02:27:05.000 --> 02:27:10.600
know a lot just said boot.dev i i don't know much about them i haven't used their service i've heard

02:27:10.600 --> 02:27:15.800
about this one i've heard they're cool this is the kid version i think i was thinking of boot.dev

02:27:15.800 --> 02:27:21.480
but i think this is the kid version okay just scratch have like a learning thing i think it does

02:27:21.560 --> 02:27:27.480
but that's a little that is that's a little before programming it is very intro but if you

02:27:27.480 --> 02:27:32.120
haven't done any learning yet on programming scratch is really cool you can actually do some

02:27:32.120 --> 02:27:36.040
surprisingly good things to scratch um i think it's turning complete

02:27:39.880 --> 02:27:44.120
but so it's powerpoint sponsored by boot.dev before okay i don't know i don't pay that much

02:27:44.120 --> 02:27:53.000
attention that isn't why i brought them up to be clear but yeah i think it's kind of a need idea

02:27:54.760 --> 02:27:59.880
to to make it kind of a game so that it's fun especially if you're doing this just for fun

02:27:59.880 --> 02:28:02.760
i know we've done spots for boot.dev yeah i just didn't remember

02:28:04.760 --> 02:28:07.640
coden game somebody said coden game i don't know yeah there's like

02:28:09.000 --> 02:28:13.400
near infinite ways to learn how to code these days there are so many different services that

02:28:13.400 --> 02:28:20.360
you can subscribe to that have cool different angles on it there's tons of free information out

02:28:20.360 --> 02:28:26.840
there there are youtube tutorials more than you could possibly imagine with dynamics there's

02:28:26.840 --> 02:28:33.560
everything yeah go for it that one that was like the 11 hour godot tutorial amazing video incredible

02:28:33.560 --> 02:28:40.200
unlimited knowledge yeah all right any long-term plans either partner or partner with or create

02:28:40.200 --> 02:28:45.240
your own brick-and-mortar presence for LTT Store products if memory serves did microcenter have

02:28:45.240 --> 02:28:52.040
the screwdriver for a while how about a best buy um retail partnerships are tough because

02:28:52.040 --> 02:28:58.680
this may surprise you but retail um requires significant margin on the product that otherwise

02:28:58.680 --> 02:29:08.600
we could take for ourselves um and retail also has a lot of baggage uh retail especially with

02:29:08.680 --> 02:29:16.680
relatively small entity like us will demand very challenging purchase terms um so they'll

02:29:16.680 --> 02:29:22.840
pretty much say yeah we'll pay you when we feel like it um any returns you will simply

02:29:22.840 --> 02:29:28.360
eat them we will just destroy them we will not bother to return them to you and things could

02:29:28.360 --> 02:29:33.960
be returned for reasons as trivial as a little dint on the packaging and um

02:29:36.280 --> 02:29:44.840
yeah like it or lump it and if we had the kind of clout that we could negotiate a better deal

02:29:44.840 --> 02:29:49.480
than that or if we had really deep margins on our products then we'd be able to absorb that

02:29:49.480 --> 02:29:55.560
but there's a reason that the direct-to-consumer model works um and so we we looked at it pretty

02:29:55.560 --> 02:30:01.720
recently and based on sort of our anticipated we haven't talked to anyone about the specifics

02:30:01.720 --> 02:30:08.440
but based on our anticipated expectations for the margins and the and the oh yeah loss too

02:30:08.440 --> 02:30:12.600
like there's a lot more theft in a retail location than there is in a secure warehouse

02:30:12.600 --> 02:30:17.960
somewhere um and they're not going to eat it we're probably going to end up eating that too so

02:30:18.520 --> 02:30:22.200
that one i don't know for sure but i do know the other ones at the point is just that

02:30:22.440 --> 02:30:28.360
it's um we we did the we ran sort of some preliminary estimated numbers and we compared

02:30:28.360 --> 02:30:35.800
that and it would probably cost us less to just subsidize shipping on our key skews versus to

02:30:35.800 --> 02:30:43.160
give up the margin and overhead of having them in retail there's a reason the detail is competitive

02:30:43.160 --> 02:30:48.760
yeah oh i line us in luke do you think we will see another in another couple years of game

02:30:48.840 --> 02:30:52.840
performance stagnation because the user base will be running older hardware longer

02:30:52.840 --> 02:31:01.720
like what happened during covid i.e ps4 and ps5 um the performance stagnation is an interesting

02:31:02.760 --> 02:31:09.880
for me it's it's it more comes down to because there's always a cycle right with with consoles

02:31:09.880 --> 02:31:13.800
and you're going to see a new console is going to come out that's going to push the boundaries in

02:31:14.600 --> 02:31:20.760
terms of what game developers can can build to run on it and then for a while there will

02:31:20.760 --> 02:31:26.120
be pretty much no point for any cross-platform game targeting anything other than sort of

02:31:26.760 --> 02:31:33.320
approximately that but plus or minus some bells and whistles um and then you'll get a new console

02:31:33.320 --> 02:31:37.480
and there will be like kind of a two to three year leg as games that were actually started

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development targeting that console start to come out and then you'll see sort of a benefit to having

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a higher end pc there so that that's part of it but the other part of it is that for i feel like

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almost kind of two super cycles now we've reached the point where the gating factor is just how much

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bloody work it is for developers to build bigger and bigger games you can't just expect a bigger

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prettier game every time unless the company is you know rock star whether it will spend literally

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the better part of a decade working on a game i don't have hundreds of millions of dollars you

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know i don't know if you want to say it's a bigger game but uh looking at again embark studios for

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for art graders in the finals um those games run really well actually and like look pretty great

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so it's still possible i think there hasn't been a ton of incentives for companies to focus on that

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in a long time yeah that's true and that might be changing a little bit maybe potentially i don't

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know RAM i was wondering what the impacts on chrome like does chrome development change a little bit

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because of RAM limitations right like if your product just isn't competitive because uh the

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install base i would rather use some other browser that's less memory hungry i don't think that's

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going to be enough to destabilize chrome just to be clear but it's it's just an interesting

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thought experiment of like we're we're hearing companies significantly limiting RAM on devices

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like i wasn't wasn't wasn't one of them limiting to eight gigs eight gigs in 2026 bruh dang yeah

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that's not great like that's i can get chrome to eight gigs real fast there's also man another

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major factor is that the lead times on all this stuff is so long that if i was starting the

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development of a game today i wouldn't even be accounting for the RAM shortage nope by the time

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i release my game the RAM shortage will be in the rear view mirror so yeah and and then anything

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that was already started is going to be wasn't accounting for it anyways you can tune you can

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optimize i i i don't i don't think that it will be a major factor i also don't think that your

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even your premise um is is necessarily correct uh NVIDIA's gaming revenue is up 30 so this entire

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premise of that everyone's running older hardware so you know you know they're they're

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specifying ps4 and ps5 because games often target console performance they see they say older heart

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like what happened then no no they're saying it's happening now because of prices going up

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we'll be running older hardware like what happened during covet ie ps4 and ps5 yeah so so i don't

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people are not not buying computers right now they are and the thing that i talked about earlier

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where like i understand why people are angry that RAM is more expensive and that's totally valid

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but like buying a computer relative to everything else around us in the world is also

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more affordable than ever just like tv's tv's and computers have been

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shockingly inflation proof over the entire span of my lifetime to the point where

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i feel like we just take it for granted we can't so i guess maybe that's what i didn't explain

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very well earlier is that's maybe that's a better maybe that's the perspective adjustment we need

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is like do not take this for granted the fact that things are as good as they are is actually

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a modern miracle it could be so much worse we know it can be and we're looking for it to get back

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there we wish it were better but it could be so i think the i think that don't take it for granted

02:35:19.080 --> 02:35:25.560
thing is probably a stronger angle personally um all right last one i got for you today hello

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wan dot dl l i've heard a lot of debates surrounding msp's and whether or not they are effective

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what are your opinions on using an msp instead of doing everything in house medical services plan

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man and service provider i think is what they mean

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so like out of house it is i think what they're referencing

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i've heard places that have done it very effectively i've also heard a lot of stories

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of places switching to something like this and then being like oh no it's really bad and then

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trying to go back to what they had before but now they fired all their people so they can't get

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those people back because they've gone other places now and then things are just your tribal

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knowledge yeah um i think at large companies a mix probably makes a decent amount of sense

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okay comments in in chat really on we have an msp it effing sucks vanok working for an msp i want to

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die uh fox jicon i worked for a m msp nope uh yeah i think i think the like oh we can just outsource

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everything put everything in the cloud and nothing has to be local anymore ever even people um that

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whole idea didn't turn out as well as people hoped and there's a there's a there's a pretty big

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benefit to just having your own it people that understand your space understand your environment

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know your people and yeah and can adapt things well and understand the needs of individual people

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and like people who might be working in different departments doing specific things etc all right

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unfortunately everyone i have a heart out right now i've got to go and um and i got work to do

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nice yeah it's so weird when we do when early it is extremely strange my brain starts to shut

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down actually it's like not good oh it's like conditioned yes like we have not missed a friday

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WAN Show since like the start of covid lockdown yeah like it's been five years so on friday when i

02:37:31.240 --> 02:37:37.000
say the thing yeah which hasn't been said yet hasn't been said don't do it i like i have this like

02:37:37.000 --> 02:37:42.040
energy letdown that is like relatively extreme actually yeah i don't know how to not go lock

02:37:42.040 --> 02:37:46.840
up the building yep and like go home and sleep it's weird yeah it has happened where i've just like

02:37:46.840 --> 02:37:52.280
wandered for a second and then been like uh oh yeah i guess i'll go to my desk yeah well it's

02:37:52.280 --> 02:37:56.760
super trippy very odd yeah it's probably the same for a lot of them too actually wouldn't be surprised

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like if they're used to the wen show at a particular time in their times on just being like the ritual

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yeah because like i mean it's you know we're not like the biggest live stream in the world or

02:38:06.680 --> 02:38:12.440
anything but there's like probably a solid 10 000 people watching and i would say out of those just

02:38:12.440 --> 02:38:17.880
based on the names that i see a lot of a lot of regularity yeah there's a lot of people for whom

02:38:17.880 --> 02:38:24.200
the wen show is like part of their friday routine yeah it's just like yeah we'll try to get back

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to a more regular schedule it's just q4 and the holiday season and all that stuff will things have

02:38:28.920 --> 02:38:33.160
been a little wild yeah well we'll try we'll try and get things going for you and we'll see you

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again next week same bad time same bad channel bye