WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:02.000 Five 00:00:15.640 --> 00:00:17.640 We are lot 00:00:19.480 --> 00:00:24.280 Hello, oh Right we're live up. Hi everyone 00:00:25.280 --> 00:00:32.840 That is quite the setup you've got there for how professional everything, but you looks your lighting and camera situation is ass 00:00:35.240 --> 00:00:39.560 So that's cool, I mean is it not very good on my end 00:00:40.840 --> 00:00:50.120 Okay Cool, I mean the lighting is not that great, but I also didn't necessarily turn the best lighting on 00:00:50.760 --> 00:00:56.080 Neat and the camera is just a webcam, but it looks a lot better than what I'm seeing come back at me through the stream 00:00:56.080 --> 00:01:05.420 Yeah, no you look like ass Yeah, like two cheeks and a starfish and deal with our fish. I will deal with it 00:01:07.160 --> 00:01:10.640 We've got a pretty sick echo going on there. Yeah, sorry. That's coming through your laptop 00:01:10.640 --> 00:01:13.720 Why is there a poop stain on Linus's tongue? 00:01:14.720 --> 00:01:16.720 Huh? 00:01:18.320 --> 00:01:22.800 Don't see that you accidentally licked my pop filter and it is nasty 00:01:24.200 --> 00:01:27.200 It is oh man 00:01:27.200 --> 00:01:30.240 What man we got to clean this thing good gravy 00:01:31.520 --> 00:01:34.920 Buh eat over it. I don't even know what you're talking about 00:01:36.560 --> 00:01:41.360 It's like probably old crumbs yours is no better, sir 00:01:41.560 --> 00:01:44.800 In fact, if anything yours is kind of gross, sir 00:01:45.800 --> 00:01:50.640 Yeah, it's the it's the liquids that have hit it that are the problem 00:01:54.120 --> 00:01:57.240 He spits when he talks he f***s anything that walks 00:02:01.600 --> 00:02:03.600 As long as he gives it chicken first 00:02:07.040 --> 00:02:09.040 Pay my dues 00:02:11.360 --> 00:02:13.360 Alright 00:02:18.400 --> 00:02:24.840 Okay, are we like are we we're probably gonna have to start the show pretty quick without much of a pre-stream today 00:02:25.400 --> 00:02:31.960 Yeah, I think so. I Think we're good to go Luke moved slightly. So I'm just gonna readjust him. I 00:02:32.600 --> 00:02:37.940 Know I like I'll be here. You'll be there. Okay. I'll be here. I'm just I'm doing something. That's all 00:02:41.360 --> 00:02:43.360 You 00:02:59.000 --> 00:03:01.320 Okay, that should be about that I think 00:03:04.480 --> 00:03:08.340 So we just get some more levels for you Luke, I think it's sounding good 00:03:08.340 --> 00:03:13.980 Hello testing one two three four. Wow something happened that matters. I think your 00:03:14.500 --> 00:03:18.420 Mike is turning itself down. Could you check to make sure that it's? 00:03:20.420 --> 00:03:27.220 No, no, dude, this isn't my setup. Okay idea and I need you to go to the sound panel 00:03:29.940 --> 00:03:32.460 Broadcast and see what your mic level is it 00:03:33.940 --> 00:03:37.740 He doesn't even have NVIDIA broadcast. No, no, that's fine. You sound fine 00:03:39.020 --> 00:03:43.780 Okay Just your level is too low and it might have turned you down automatically 00:03:45.180 --> 00:03:47.180 about it 00:03:59.180 --> 00:04:01.180 Bless 00:04:09.180 --> 00:04:11.180 I 00:04:15.380 --> 00:04:19.660 Anything Hello testing one two three four 00:04:20.180 --> 00:04:25.860 What is it? What's the question? Uh? In the sound panel. What is your mic level? 00:04:27.020 --> 00:04:34.260 Which like in the in the calls sound panel no in the computer sound panel got it. So if you go to 00:04:35.180 --> 00:04:38.140 Change system sounds if you just start menu sounds 00:04:41.100 --> 00:04:44.220 Then I know I just I thought you meant in the call. Oh, I'm I'm sorry 00:04:45.420 --> 00:04:49.740 It's like halfway halfway. Yeah, I don't know turn that up more 00:04:52.380 --> 00:04:57.540 Okay, oh wait, oh I've got all the way and then I can adjust you here 00:04:58.740 --> 00:05:03.620 Oh, I thought you meant what I was getting to it's not a hundred. Okay. That's good then 00:05:05.140 --> 00:05:09.980 Oh, you guys know that I like to have the twitch and YouTube dashboards as well, right? 00:05:11.540 --> 00:05:15.960 Okay, maybe for next week. Let's not bother for this week. Okay 00:05:18.860 --> 00:05:22.880 Okay, you guys ready you know in the setup on your laptop. Yeah 00:05:24.580 --> 00:05:26.580 We changed out our laptops. Oh 00:05:29.260 --> 00:05:31.260 What am I holding here 00:05:32.260 --> 00:05:39.140 Linus from our iPhone user intro currently charging. Oh 00:05:41.260 --> 00:05:46.300 Okay, I might like to take the power bank. Can I take the power bank? Yes, this would be really useful 00:05:48.220 --> 00:05:54.620 Nice oh look at all that PD then you say where you're headed remember that we're live 00:05:58.980 --> 00:06:03.940 Okay The answer is no 00:06:04.540 --> 00:06:10.820 Check how's the elbow? Oh, I was just massaging hit actually work in oh, I guess you could see me 00:06:10.820 --> 00:06:14.540 Which is why you asked I played last night and 00:06:15.980 --> 00:06:20.580 I'm paying for it a little bit. I think my ibuprofen from this morning is wearing off 00:06:21.540 --> 00:06:25.260 I Am getting my I got my x-rays already 00:06:26.140 --> 00:06:30.580 Last Friday, I want to say. Yeah, I think it was last Friday. I got my x-rays 00:06:31.300 --> 00:06:33.900 and then I'm gonna go in for I 00:06:34.780 --> 00:06:39.980 Have my referral now from the x-rays to go to the like orthopedic specialist or whatever 00:06:39.980 --> 00:06:43.980 And then my hope is that they're gonna tell me I think so 00:06:45.260 --> 00:06:47.260 Aren't they joint doctors? 00:06:51.220 --> 00:06:56.220 Yeah, okay. Yeah, so my hope is that I hear myself 00:06:56.420 --> 00:07:00.420 Do you have the stream open? 00:07:06.740 --> 00:07:13.500 Yeah, there we go. Yes, yes, yes My hope is that they are going to tell me that I'm a good candidate for PRP 00:07:13.500 --> 00:07:18.420 And then I want to get a PRP injection and hopefully speed up the healing a little bit 00:07:18.860 --> 00:07:25.860 Because that is as far as I can tell basically the only thing you can do other than just like keep doing your physio 00:07:26.260 --> 00:07:30.420 exercises take anti-inflammatories apply heat, but I'm doing all that stuff and 00:07:30.900 --> 00:07:34.460 It's taking a really really long time to heal 00:07:36.660 --> 00:07:43.380 Yeah And Dan vibes, I know the problem is that the cable is too tight 00:07:44.140 --> 00:07:49.700 So I've been trying to solve that, but I'm aware of the problem. I think it's okay 00:07:51.900 --> 00:07:54.780 Okay, I'm good to go if you guys are good to go 00:07:55.580 --> 00:08:01.780 no way Dig is relaunching leading dig engineering says date and T 00:08:02.300 --> 00:08:08.100 Community first platform gives users more algorithm control your take on what a modern reddit should have 00:08:08.100 --> 00:08:12.340 I mean you are sending this at the wrong time during the show. Yeah, okay 00:08:12.340 --> 00:08:17.260 There you go. Good reply Dan. We're gonna talk about that later Yeah, Linus is old now 00:08:19.740 --> 00:08:22.820 Now do Canadians say 00:08:24.660 --> 00:08:33.220 Parad what? Parasetamol or acetaminophen paracetamol. Oh acetaminophen for sure 00:08:33.580 --> 00:08:39.420 We say acetaminophen. Yeah. Oh minifen whatever we say something Tylenol. We say that one 00:08:39.820 --> 00:08:43.780 I say I say acetaminophen. I guess tennis elbow 00:08:49.540 --> 00:08:53.780 Which one is it is Luke saying it right he's probably saying it right 00:08:57.340 --> 00:08:59.340 Oh, there we go nice 00:09:00.900 --> 00:09:05.820 Those oddies they look like it acetaminophen 00:09:07.180 --> 00:09:13.020 Tylenol is really bad for you. I mean I don't know. It's better than being in so much pain. You can't sleep sometimes. So 00:09:15.220 --> 00:09:21.660 Sure You guys ready to go I had tendon repair surgery tendons take forever to heal. Yeah 00:09:22.300 --> 00:09:27.580 They're way more apparently the the person who set up business just messaged me 00:09:29.580 --> 00:09:33.380 Nice and they are more comfortable this way they fit fine the other way 00:09:34.340 --> 00:09:39.380 nice It's hard to tell when there's a is it though cable on each side is it though 00:09:39.460 --> 00:09:41.780 There's a cable on each side. Is it though? Is it though? 00:09:45.460 --> 00:09:47.460 Yeah, there's no right or left indicator 00:09:50.260 --> 00:09:53.700 Apparently Luke is still pretty quiet. Yeah, he keeps getting turned down. I don't know why 00:09:54.740 --> 00:09:58.220 Hello testing one two three four. See that's better 00:10:01.700 --> 00:10:09.140 Do you want to keep talking? Yeah Dyslexic stoner 240 says I've had a tendon injury since September. I'm still not back to being able to lift more than 20 pounds 00:10:09.140 --> 00:10:13.980 Yeah, that's about the timeline. I'm on right now. I think I got injured in more like October 00:10:13.980 --> 00:10:18.980 I don't even remember anymore. I just know that it was months and I'm really unhappy 00:10:22.980 --> 00:10:28.100 No, that's fine might be somewhere else that should be better maybe 00:10:31.220 --> 00:10:35.700 Maybe okay You 00:10:44.940 --> 00:10:49.780 Guys ready I'm ready Luke 00:10:50.900 --> 00:10:54.860 I mean, I'm good whenever man. That's are you but I thought we're dealing with your audio levels 00:10:55.380 --> 00:11:01.780 Are we are we not? I'm not doing anything on my end. Sounds fine. Oh, okay. Let's do this thing then. Yeah 00:11:02.780 --> 00:11:11.660 I can always play with it Okay, okay, you got your panels and stuff. I'm ready to go. Oh wait, I don't think I have the panels either 00:11:15.500 --> 00:11:19.940 Yeah, did you sign me into that no I figured you use your laptop for that 00:11:19.940 --> 00:11:25.620 Oh, okay, I guess that's not people asking you about the backpack in the corner That's not my backpack the the owner of this 00:11:26.380 --> 00:11:28.700 Residence is just based and has an LTT backpack 00:11:29.380 --> 00:11:33.900 nice I 00:11:40.660 --> 00:11:42.660 Based where 00:11:44.140 --> 00:11:47.220 Get it because you're obviously not at home sure 00:11:49.500 --> 00:11:53.680 You know who it is yeah, I know I'm just 00:11:55.340 --> 00:11:58.860 Based yeah, babe. I have I have good news based even mean oh 00:11:59.540 --> 00:12:05.540 My front shoulder thing didn't bug me when I worked out this week and we played two hours of pickleball at my shoulder was fine 00:12:06.460 --> 00:12:12.340 How is that good news? You think I'm gonna switch to old man racket support just for you. No, that's the only thing you can play 00:12:12.420 --> 00:12:16.060 Wow Thursday, I'm gonna try badminton Thursday. Why Thursday? 00:12:17.220 --> 00:12:21.500 Cuz that's probably the best easiest day for me to go do it. Are you not gonna be there Thursday? 00:12:21.540 --> 00:12:27.680 Well, I don't you know that LMG badminton night is on Tuesdays, right? I know. Oh, okay 00:12:28.520 --> 00:12:31.520 But sorry, sorry, wait, where are you going on Thursday? 00:12:32.320 --> 00:12:38.360 You're just gonna like randomly go on Thursday. I thought you went there like all the time. Well. Yeah, what I'm not injured 00:12:41.120 --> 00:12:46.960 He's poking at a sore spot for me here I did manage to go play last night, but I like not at the level I like to play at 00:12:47.680 --> 00:12:51.120 Gonna play next Tuesday No 00:12:51.120 --> 00:12:55.080 Okay, well, just let me know when you're gonna. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, don't worry. We're gonna get back into it 00:12:55.080 --> 00:12:58.240 I'm gonna train you up, dude. We're gonna train you up. You're gonna get trained 00:12:58.240 --> 00:13:04.320 I was very happy because you know, it's it's not the same motion. Yeah, and I honestly found that I was overhitting all the time 00:13:04.320 --> 00:13:08.200 So it was a lot less force, but still two hours and I felt nothing 00:13:08.200 --> 00:13:15.180 So that's incredible pickleball is actually crazy fun. I've only played a couple times, but it's a blast 00:13:15.180 --> 00:13:18.640 Was that your first time? That was my first time 00:13:19.760 --> 00:13:22.600 Emma had this idea we ended up playing something that I coined Emma ball 00:13:23.600 --> 00:13:31.080 Where we each side would serve at the same time and you'd play with two wiffle balls nice time. It was actually really fun 00:13:31.640 --> 00:13:40.080 nice We're gonna blast a really cool place. Oh, we should get started chicken involved actually technically 00:13:40.080 --> 00:13:44.000 Yes, because we went to a place that serves chicken and also has pickleball 00:13:45.240 --> 00:13:47.240 Okay, I'm hitting it time 00:13:53.040 --> 00:13:57.480 You You 00:13:58.000 --> 00:14:00.000 You 00:14:19.520 --> 00:14:26.500 What is up everyone another day another launch where the MSRP cards are either nowhere to be found or 00:14:27.480 --> 00:14:34.320 Very tiny few to be found. We're gonna be getting into that talking about both the launch of the RTX 5070 and 00:14:35.160 --> 00:14:38.600 Radeon 9070 and 9070 XT 00:14:38.720 --> 00:14:42.240 We will also be talking about an article that is from last week 00:14:42.480 --> 00:14:50.120 But I think still merit some discussion today tech radar says pre-built are always 00:14:50.920 --> 00:14:55.920 Superior that is the honest truth unless you are an IT God 00:14:57.640 --> 00:15:01.360 What okay, what else we got for this week? What a week. It's gonna be 00:15:02.320 --> 00:15:10.320 For the seven people that care Mozilla rewrites firefox's terms of use after user backlash and their brain back dig 00:15:12.000 --> 00:15:17.840 Which I mean that that might be good. I'm digging it get it. Maybe yeah. Yeah 00:15:28.280 --> 00:15:39.000 The show is brought to you today by Squarespace 00:15:39.440 --> 00:15:47.440 Vessie Corsair and of course our rap partner D brand our laptop partner Dell and our chair partner 00:15:47.600 --> 00:15:51.580 Oh, there it is. Oh, sorry. I gotta cover it up because it's a secret 00:15:52.420 --> 00:15:59.300 Shh secret lab. I get it. All right. Why don't we jump right into our first topic today? 00:15:59.300 --> 00:16:03.860 Which is of course going to be the big launches this week Adam put? 00:16:04.780 --> 00:16:11.940 Gosh darn it He put so much work into preparing this topic that I'm gonna do my very best to read as much of as I can without getting 00:16:13.260 --> 00:16:21.240 Exhausted and video AMD have launched their 70 class cards and boy were they doozy's here's a rundown from worst 00:16:21.620 --> 00:16:27.740 To less worst the NVIDIA RTX 5070 turns out no it does not in fact have 00:16:28.180 --> 00:16:34.740 4090 performance dude what dude you were there with me when I filmed that little clip where I like did the little quip to 00:16:34.740 --> 00:16:37.820 Austin right or had you joined us yet? I don't think you had 00:16:38.500 --> 00:16:47.660 Never mind. I lied because we were at the keynote together But Luke was sitting somewhere else he had better seats and then I just went where they shepherded us into the press area 00:16:47.660 --> 00:16:57.740 Where we were like, oh, okay, so I guess we're like Third-class citizens after the investors and the analysts because that's what NVIDIA's into these days any who I didn't have great 00:16:57.740 --> 00:17:01.180 Seats, but I was able to hear Jensen say that the upcoming 00:17:01.900 --> 00:17:10.220 RTX 5070 at 549 or 649 or whatever 549 would match the performance of the 4090 and 00:17:10.540 --> 00:17:16.380 at the time My camera guy Andrew was like, do you want me like filming this? I'm like 00:17:17.100 --> 00:17:20.220 Buddy We're at a press conference a 00:17:21.660 --> 00:17:29.340 Everyone in their dog is already filming it as you can see so we are contributing literally nothing to the zate geist or however 00:17:29.340 --> 00:17:33.740 You pronounce that It isn't thank you guys. It's all man 00:17:33.740 --> 00:17:37.980 I got I got dunked on for my pronunciation of 00:17:38.700 --> 00:17:42.540 Wunderkind in the anyway, it doesn't matter the point is I said it wrong 00:17:43.260 --> 00:17:50.300 Um Anywho we are contributing absolutely nothing literally anything we record here of the stage is redundant because 00:17:50.700 --> 00:17:55.020 Everyone else in their dog has their cameras out recording it and number two 00:17:56.140 --> 00:18:01.340 What they're doing is completely redundant anyway because NVIDIA is live streaming the whole thing and you could do 00:18:01.900 --> 00:18:05.020 You could get a way better quality version of it from youtube 00:18:05.740 --> 00:18:10.300 The gamer moves seem to be I know I know I think bit with Kyle did this and a few other people 00:18:10.300 --> 00:18:14.620 But I don't remember who where they just re-streamed the broadcast and stayed home 00:18:15.500 --> 00:18:22.860 Yeah, they just commented over it. Yeah Tons of live viewers. It was it was like very very I mean dude. I told NVIDIA 00:18:22.940 --> 00:18:29.020 I don't go to press conferences The only reason I was there was because we were supposed to go get hands on with the 5090 anyway 00:18:29.020 --> 00:18:32.620 The point is I was there when Jensen said it and 00:18:33.260 --> 00:18:39.180 In that moment I was like yo Andrew I know I told you that we're not filming anything but get get the get the camera get the camera 00:18:39.180 --> 00:18:43.500 I got mic'd up like put on the mic. Okay, and I got that clip dude 00:18:44.060 --> 00:18:47.420 That clip has been I'm gonna get so much mileage out of that 00:18:47.820 --> 00:18:53.180 I'll believe it when I see it clip because every time NVIDIA says something that is just complete bullshit 00:18:53.740 --> 00:18:59.660 I'm gonna be able to pull out that clip pull it out again of me at the press conference for the 5090 launch being like 00:19:00.220 --> 00:19:07.180 I'll believe it when I see it. Um, so yeah, well, you would have been able to pull it out for every single NVIDIA launch that I have personally seen so 00:19:08.060 --> 00:19:15.500 It's about 20 faster than a 4070 barely nets a single digit percent increase over the 4070 super 00:19:15.820 --> 00:19:23.260 It's 12 gigs of VRAM poses longevity concerns, especially at 4k, and it is pretty much non-existent at retail 00:19:23.740 --> 00:19:28.700 While those quick to the punch were able to get their hands on a card most folks were unable to find them at msrp 00:19:29.180 --> 00:19:35.260 and The more expensive partner cards even those ones sold sold out shortly afterward 00:19:35.820 --> 00:19:39.100 Adam included a picture from pc part picker 00:19:40.060 --> 00:19:45.500 Where there is only one card in stock and this is a 5070 a card with a 00:19:46.700 --> 00:19:51.260 $549 msrp And it is priced at 00:19:51.820 --> 00:19:55.820 $1,029 as of 4 20 p.m. March 6th 00:19:56.540 --> 00:20:04.300 nice Hashtag blaze it your money that is sweet just light it on fire light it all on fire 00:20:05.020 --> 00:20:08.460 Yeah, AMD things went 00:20:08.460 --> 00:20:11.420 A bit better, but it looks like the story is 00:20:12.140 --> 00:20:17.500 Complicated it was a much better received launch including by yours truly 00:20:18.060 --> 00:20:26.380 The 90 70 has the same msrp as the 50 70 from NVIDIA while being about 9 faster at 1440p and 4k raster 00:20:26.860 --> 00:20:33.340 in ray tracing the 90 70 beats out the previous flagship 7900 x tx which launched at an msrp of 00:20:33.900 --> 00:20:40.620 $1,000 but actually fell behind the 50 70 in our testing though other outlets found that 00:20:41.020 --> 00:20:45.100 It was within 5 to 7 percent across their suite of ray traced games 00:20:45.580 --> 00:20:48.780 We did notice that the worst performance for the 90 70 00:20:49.580 --> 00:20:55.420 Was in blacksmith wukong where it seems AMD is still struggling a little bit 00:20:56.060 --> 00:21:02.700 It gets 16 gigs of GDDR 6 though Which gives us a little bit more confidence that it will continue to be able to keep up in the future 00:21:02.860 --> 00:21:10.220 Without seeing lag spikes and was in stock for substantially longer actually several hours rather than several minutes 00:21:10.940 --> 00:21:19.820 Meanwhile the 90 70 x t competes in performance with the 50 70 ti and AMD's 7900 x tx and raster and ray tracing 00:21:20.060 --> 00:21:24.220 It competes and even beats the 50 70 in several titles great card 00:21:24.540 --> 00:21:30.540 undercuts and digits offerings and price brings ray tracing to a serviceable level and is generally pretty good 00:21:30.860 --> 00:21:37.820 However, however. Oh, yeah fsr4 looks pretty good image quality. No more distracting than dlss4 00:21:38.140 --> 00:21:43.740 And outlets who have done deep dives into the image quality rated as matching the dlss cnn model 00:21:43.740 --> 00:21:47.740 But legs behind in some areas compared compared to NVIDIA's latest transformer model 00:21:49.180 --> 00:21:56.300 However, it's not all sunshine and roses for AMD and there's going to be a number of sources that we're going to be talking about 00:21:56.620 --> 00:22:03.580 So stick with me for a little bit here guys because there's a lot of sides to this story 00:22:04.460 --> 00:22:07.900 video cards with a z dot com 00:22:08.700 --> 00:22:12.860 Oh, that makes sense because video cards with an s wouldn't exist 00:22:14.540 --> 00:22:16.700 Because you'd have to have like video cards 00:22:18.060 --> 00:22:23.660 Hey, I get it. They were planning for the future. They had a crystal ball when they bought that domain 00:22:24.380 --> 00:22:30.300 Oh, boy. Uh, anyway, they got a quote from ocuk's andrew gibson who stated 00:22:31.180 --> 00:22:34.460 msrp is a capped quantity of a few hundred 00:22:35.100 --> 00:22:38.060 So prices will jump once those are sold through 00:22:38.940 --> 00:22:48.860 They also received insight about rebates from swedish retailer inet.se who claimed that msrp prices will apply to a limited number of cards 00:22:49.180 --> 00:22:53.820 The prices only apply to the first shipment of each model 00:22:54.460 --> 00:22:57.180 I have a note in here from adam who prepared this topic 00:22:57.500 --> 00:23:02.140 Linus, can you comment on this sort of rebate behavior? Is this common place? 00:23:02.780 --> 00:23:06.300 My experience in the grocery industry knows that this isn't out of the ordinary 00:23:06.300 --> 00:23:12.860 But I also sold jam and shortening. So not sure how that translates. What I will say is this 00:23:14.620 --> 00:23:19.180 Back when Back when I was working in retail 00:23:20.620 --> 00:23:25.660 Demand for the latest GPU was not like it is today 00:23:26.540 --> 00:23:31.420 um I would say under normal circumstances 00:23:31.740 --> 00:23:38.060 Yes, there are elements of this launch that were that would seem pretty wild if you haven't worked in the industry before 00:23:38.380 --> 00:23:43.260 But are kind of normal like the fact that pricing didn't seem to be finalized up until 00:23:43.980 --> 00:23:49.180 Like the hours before the launch and I'll talk a little bit more about that later. That's not unusual 00:23:49.420 --> 00:23:55.340 We would I'm not saying it's good. It's not good. It's absolute madness, but it's not 00:23:56.140 --> 00:24:04.300 Unusual we would regularly cut po's for literally like hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of GPU's 00:24:04.620 --> 00:24:09.740 And have no idea what our cost was for them and what our msrp was going to be for them 00:24:10.060 --> 00:24:15.420 Hundreds of thousands of dollars of GPU's like like hundreds of of top spec cards 00:24:15.900 --> 00:24:23.340 And we literally wouldn't have a price Evga wouldn't have a price and our direct NVIDIA rep wouldn't have a price. They're just like 00:24:24.220 --> 00:24:30.220 Buy them. This is your allocation Take them or someone else will take them and you're like 00:24:32.300 --> 00:24:39.100 Okay, because what else are you gonna do? You don't you don't have any GPU's to sell what your computer store with no GPU's is ridiculous, right? 00:24:39.500 --> 00:24:42.460 So you just take them and that's and that's it you cut a po 00:24:43.500 --> 00:24:50.780 um However, what I will say is that the idea of having 00:24:51.740 --> 00:24:57.660 A a rebate like this like an instant rebate because there's different kinds of there's different kinds of rebates 00:24:57.660 --> 00:25:03.180 Okay, so there's your mail-in rebates. Those are the ones that have the little form you fill out for the consumer 00:25:03.500 --> 00:25:07.580 And they they send in the they mail in the form and they they get some money back 00:25:08.140 --> 00:25:12.220 The redemption rates on those are somewhere between 10 and 50 percent 00:25:12.460 --> 00:25:17.100 Depending on the size of the rebate the smaller ones tend to have a very low redemption rate 00:25:17.180 --> 00:25:21.580 And the higher ones tend to have a much higher redemption rate once you go past a certain number 00:25:21.900 --> 00:25:27.340 Don't quote me on those exact numbers. It's been a minute and consumer behavior might have changed a little bit 00:25:27.580 --> 00:25:31.580 But the point is just that there's a wide range of redemption and the people who 00:25:32.460 --> 00:25:36.380 Do redeem it are essentially being subsidized by the people who don't redeem it 00:25:36.380 --> 00:25:40.780 That's the way the math works on the on a mail-in rebate. So there's your mail-in rebate 00:25:41.020 --> 00:25:46.140 Okay, then there is your kind of point of sale rebate po s rebate 00:25:46.540 --> 00:25:53.660 And that's going to take place At the point of sale and those are those are kind of like a commission or a spiff 00:25:54.220 --> 00:25:59.420 For a uh for like a a salesperson, but it goes at the retailer level 00:25:59.580 --> 00:26:03.260 So you're expected to kind of use it for a short term promotion 00:26:03.660 --> 00:26:10.220 um And and the idea is that you're you're driving sales during some kind of an event like uh march amdness 00:26:10.700 --> 00:26:16.700 For for march madness AMD usually does a like a basketball themed promo for march madness march amdness 00:26:16.940 --> 00:26:20.780 So that would usually have something like uh like a po s rebate across 00:26:21.340 --> 00:26:26.540 bundles of AMD products or partner products in order to kind of push up the volumes during that time 00:26:27.340 --> 00:26:30.860 The last kind would be like a price protection 00:26:31.580 --> 00:26:39.740 slash um Like like instant rebate instant rebate actually there's more of a terminology for po s rebate, but like a price protection 00:26:40.220 --> 00:26:45.100 So like a credit essentially a credit where they are taking your entire 00:26:45.660 --> 00:26:49.580 inventory that you have and they are price protecting you down to a new 00:26:50.540 --> 00:26:57.580 Presumably permanent price and that would happen in the event that you had something like a significant price drop 00:26:57.900 --> 00:27:03.980 So I would say the only example of that that I remember seeing was when NVIDIA launched the 00:27:04.700 --> 00:27:07.900 gtx 480 or 480 gtx 00:27:07.980 --> 00:27:13.180 Excuse me. I've got my my prefixes and suffixes moved around because NVIDIA moved them around 00:27:13.660 --> 00:27:18.060 um NVIDIA launched that card thinking that it was going to sell 00:27:18.620 --> 00:27:23.020 and it like didn't I think 00:27:23.020 --> 00:27:27.420 I think that was probably the worst NVIDIA card launch that I saw 00:27:28.220 --> 00:27:33.420 In my in my years working at ncix. We effectively they were dead in the water on launch day 00:27:34.300 --> 00:27:40.380 And so what happened was we had our inventory that we had bought without knowing how much we were paying for it 00:27:41.020 --> 00:27:44.460 And we basically went look guys you fucked this 00:27:44.940 --> 00:27:54.540 um You need to deal with this And so we got our stock price protected down if I recall correctly. It may have also been a pos rebate, but one that was like 00:27:55.580 --> 00:28:04.140 This is a pos rebate But it the understanding was that it was perpetual to help us get rid of this stuff and and they effectively adjusted the price of that thing 00:28:06.220 --> 00:28:10.700 So with all of that in mind the idea 00:28:10.700 --> 00:28:16.460 of a new card arriving And some portion of my inventory being 00:28:17.260 --> 00:28:21.580 instant rebated as like a an introductory promo 00:28:22.460 --> 00:28:25.020 Knowing that some of my inventory would 00:28:25.740 --> 00:28:28.380 Jump back up to a higher price after the fact 00:28:29.260 --> 00:28:31.820 No, I have never seen that before 00:28:32.380 --> 00:28:35.980 And I consider that to be if that is indeed what is happening 00:28:36.140 --> 00:28:40.140 There is more to the story which we'll get to but if that is indeed what is happening 00:28:40.140 --> 00:28:44.780 I consider that to be extremely disingenuous because that is not 00:28:45.420 --> 00:28:50.780 Uh reflective of what the long-term situation is going to be that's an introductory promo 00:28:51.020 --> 00:28:58.380 That is not an msrp And if you're not enabling and I can tell you again from working in retail and knowing that this hasn't changed 00:28:58.620 --> 00:29:02.220 I can tell you that the margins are not there to support 00:29:02.620 --> 00:29:06.620 Selling this thing at 5.99. So I'll use this the xt as my example 00:29:06.860 --> 00:29:10.540 The margins are not there to support selling this at 5.99 00:29:11.740 --> 00:29:18.860 If you need it is to rebate to get there you make like six points on a GPU like get real as a retailer 00:29:19.580 --> 00:29:27.260 That is unless you are well We'll get to the whole thing where you can have marketplaces sell the GPU and they can be at higher prices 00:29:27.340 --> 00:29:31.500 And you take a cut of that and well, I mean it's not my fault. I didn't price it at that anyway 00:29:31.660 --> 00:29:34.060 That's a whole that's a whole other conversation. This is very 00:29:35.020 --> 00:29:37.020 Very deep very complicated 00:29:38.060 --> 00:29:45.260 And we're just getting started So I would say the closest thing that I ever saw to the kind of fervor 00:29:45.820 --> 00:29:49.180 That is going on in the GPU market right now because I worked there 00:29:49.900 --> 00:29:53.580 pre ai boom pre crypto boom, right 00:29:54.380 --> 00:30:01.740 I would say the 8800 gt Was the closest I ever saw and that that was a rip in 00:30:02.460 --> 00:30:09.980 launch Like it basically offered similar procedure. He remembers this guy remembers. It was a good time 00:30:10.220 --> 00:30:12.940 Anyone who was there for 8800 gt launch 00:30:13.500 --> 00:30:20.940 Remembers because that thing was wild. It was based on the g92 die if I recall correctly 00:30:21.340 --> 00:30:26.780 So it was a process node shrink compared to the g80 which was the 8800 00:30:27.420 --> 00:30:37.180 gtx that was the the top spec card And this 8800 gt was on this new die that was on a new node. It was crazy power efficient 00:30:37.420 --> 00:30:40.300 It clocked crazy. Well, it was it was killer 00:30:40.700 --> 00:30:48.220 I think it had a little bit less RAM or something like that Like it had less vram, but it was available in two different configs one with less and one with more 00:30:48.300 --> 00:30:51.580 And you didn't really need the extra vram for a lot of modern games at that time 00:30:51.580 --> 00:30:54.300 So a lot of people went with the lower priced lower vram one 00:30:54.940 --> 00:31:03.100 And it offered Bloody near the same performance this 8800 gt like non gtx and it was like a mid-cycle refresh 00:31:03.180 --> 00:31:08.700 The whole thing was bizarre near 8800 gtx performance at a fraction of the heat 00:31:09.100 --> 00:31:13.660 Therefore it was a single slot card and at like half the price 00:31:14.300 --> 00:31:19.020 Like it was wild and if you compared it to the 8800 ultra which was 00:31:19.980 --> 00:31:27.100 Barely better than a gtx, but cost way more the value proposition was like unheard of like people and remember 00:31:27.500 --> 00:31:33.580 Sli was a thing back then and scaled pretty okay across a lot of games that people actually played 00:31:33.660 --> 00:31:39.660 So people were buying two of these For like the price of a single 8800 gtx and absolutely 00:31:40.220 --> 00:31:43.180 Turb stomping the gtx in terms of performance 00:31:44.140 --> 00:31:47.820 Nobody could keep these things in stock. It was a feeding frenzy 00:31:49.020 --> 00:31:53.500 And what happened was over time the 8800 gt did go up in price 00:31:54.220 --> 00:31:57.580 But it didn't happen like this. It didn't happen that 00:31:58.540 --> 00:32:00.940 Your initial inventory would come in 00:32:01.980 --> 00:32:06.780 And they would basically have you pay a higher price and then instant rebate you down 00:32:07.020 --> 00:32:10.780 So you could sell a limited amount of them at a lower price. No, you paid the lower price 00:32:11.260 --> 00:32:15.420 And the way that pricing went up was that your next shipment would be at a higher price 00:32:15.820 --> 00:32:20.780 So it was up to the retailer to determine, you know, how much they were going to market up or whatever 00:32:21.980 --> 00:32:27.180 With the manufacturer's suggestions, right? It was up to the retailer how they were going to market up 00:32:28.540 --> 00:32:34.540 But no one was kind of exercising external control on that card by having you pay a higher price 00:32:35.020 --> 00:32:42.540 And then enabling the msrp with a spiff or a discount or an instant rebate or a pos rebate 00:32:42.780 --> 00:32:45.180 Or whatever these mechanisms are 00:32:47.180 --> 00:32:55.980 So no in conclusion, I have never seen what Andrew Gibson and the swedish retailer are 00:32:56.780 --> 00:33:00.540 describing No, I have not 00:33:01.740 --> 00:33:04.140 So let's hear the other side of the story 00:33:05.180 --> 00:33:13.740 The verge asked AMD Can you confirm or deny that the best prices on the best priced cards are capped in this way? 00:33:14.140 --> 00:33:22.220 And what AMD said is it is inaccurate that the 549 599 msrp is launch only pricing 00:33:22.940 --> 00:33:28.380 We expect cards to be available from multiple vendors at 549 599 00:33:28.860 --> 00:33:31.660 excluding region specific tariffs and or taxes 00:33:32.220 --> 00:33:36.380 Based on the work we have done with our aib partners and more are coming 00:33:37.420 --> 00:33:42.140 At the same time the aibs have different premium configurations at higher price points 00:33:42.620 --> 00:33:46.940 And those will also continue now. That's another thing that is different these days 00:33:47.260 --> 00:33:56.220 It used to be that a premium version and i'm going to use evga's lingo. Okay, so a ko or uh, sc or um 00:33:57.020 --> 00:34:00.860 Okay, kingpins are bad examples. Those were a lot more expensive, but these 00:34:01.660 --> 00:34:04.140 These uh, these these premium versions of a card 00:34:05.020 --> 00:34:12.220 usually Didn't encroach or barely encroached on the pricing of the card above them 00:34:12.620 --> 00:34:19.660 Nowadays, dude It feels like you can see like a like an overbuilt card like a premium or an overclocked version of a card 00:34:20.220 --> 00:34:23.260 That literally costs like 30 percent more 00:34:24.220 --> 00:34:30.620 And you're looking at it going like well, well, hold on I shouldn't I just be getting like a completely new class of GPU for this. This is ridiculous 00:34:31.180 --> 00:34:37.180 But because the price bands Have been so stretched out like they used to have to fit 00:34:38.140 --> 00:34:43.900 Like your 30 class GPU your 50 your 50 ti your 60 your 60 ti your 70 your 00:34:44.300 --> 00:34:48.060 You know your 80 your your 90 or your your tighten 00:34:48.140 --> 00:34:52.380 But all of that fit within a you know about 200 to 00:34:53.020 --> 00:35:00.300 800 a thousand dollars, right? Well now well, I don't know. We've got price bands all the way from like 400 bucks all the way to 00:35:01.340 --> 00:35:04.620 $2,000 So all of a sudden 00:35:04.780 --> 00:35:10.380 You can have a card that's supposed to be $400. You have an overbuilt version of it. That's $550 or $600 00:35:10.780 --> 00:35:15.340 And you're still like 50 100 bucks below the next up card. It's ridiculous 00:35:16.540 --> 00:35:23.180 So it's really it's really hard to put downward pressure on the pricing of a 50 70 00:35:23.660 --> 00:35:29.820 When 50 70 ti's are so much more expensive that jumping up to it isn't just a logical step 00:35:32.620 --> 00:35:35.420 Um, all right, what else do we have here? 00:35:37.020 --> 00:35:41.580 It's a long topic and that tangent took so long and it's still such a long 00:35:42.380 --> 00:35:46.060 Well, dude, I mean is it interesting because you guys can tell me if you're more than we can move on 00:35:46.220 --> 00:35:53.100 Okay, people seem pretty engaged. Okay many folks have cried foul on AMD claiming. They are doing evil d 00:35:53.500 --> 00:35:57.340 deeds Adam's guess is that it's mostly incompetence 00:35:58.140 --> 00:36:01.660 I mean, of course companies are trying to maximize profits. That's what they exist to do 00:36:01.980 --> 00:36:05.340 But AMD doesn't AMD doesn't sell gps out of the goodness of their hearts 00:36:05.900 --> 00:36:15.340 But there does seem to be some incompetence But also maybe some strategic incompetence because I had another email hit my inbox that adam 00:36:15.660 --> 00:36:20.220 Didn't have access to that will add a little bit more context to what i'm about to say 00:36:20.940 --> 00:36:25.900 So strap in The pricing was last minute 00:36:25.900 --> 00:36:30.380 Hardware unboxed noted in their 9 000 series announcement video that they had prepared 00:36:30.700 --> 00:36:35.820 Multiple conclusions to the announcement because AMD hadn't determined pricing yet and we did the same thing 00:36:36.140 --> 00:36:40.860 We prepared three different conclusions for our video depending on the announced pricing from AMD 00:36:42.620 --> 00:36:45.820 That means that this information was likely 00:36:46.140 --> 00:36:52.860 Provided last minute to retailers and even board partners who would have needed to prepare promotional materials social media posts 00:36:52.860 --> 00:36:57.980 Signage advertising database entries and more in an extremely short period of time 00:36:58.620 --> 00:37:02.300 AMD would have had to communicate to all of their retail and manufacturing partners 00:37:02.700 --> 00:37:08.780 Provide compensation if prices were being adjusted in the form of rebates or payments board partners would have had to reprice all 00:37:08.780 --> 00:37:14.940 Their products communicate to retailers and si's and the like and this scramble leaves a lot of room for errors 00:37:15.260 --> 00:37:19.180 Like best buy listing the msrp cards as on sale at launch time 00:37:19.580 --> 00:37:26.300 AMD has since confirmed This was an error on best buys part because the availability date was supposed to be a day after 00:37:26.860 --> 00:37:34.460 Whoopsie doodles Board partners also deal with razor thin margins and have a big interest in making as much money as possible from pent up demand 00:37:35.180 --> 00:37:40.780 So the question is what can AMD do about this and adam's conclusion is i mean not much 00:37:41.420 --> 00:37:46.220 Frank azor from AMD says they will be encouraging aibs to keep cards at msrp 00:37:46.860 --> 00:37:50.540 um and we spoke uh 00:37:50.540 --> 00:37:52.540 and i think that's um 00:37:53.580 --> 00:38:02.060 I think that's A little bit disingenuous personally because i do believe that AMD can do more than just suggest things 00:38:02.700 --> 00:38:09.660 Here's an example of something that AMD could do is if board partners are not allocating enough of their cards to 00:38:10.140 --> 00:38:14.300 msrp versions They could not allocate them gpus. That is 00:38:15.020 --> 00:38:20.940 Literally the lever that is the way that GPU makers and this drives me crazy because 00:38:22.140 --> 00:38:27.420 I can be kind of pedantic sometimes and this is a distinction that actually does matter in my opinion 00:38:27.900 --> 00:38:32.460 GPU makers Are named Intel AMD and invidia 00:38:33.580 --> 00:38:39.340 Graphics board or video card or graphics card or add in board board board partners 00:38:39.900 --> 00:38:43.660 Those are the sapphires ASUS's MSI's 00:38:44.380 --> 00:38:48.940 Power colors of the world. Okay, so that's not a GPU. That's a graphics card 00:38:49.500 --> 00:38:55.820 A GPU is the actual silicon die So that's the leverage that GPU makers traditionally have 00:38:56.220 --> 00:39:01.340 Over their board partners over the graphics card makers is that they can basically say look 00:39:01.980 --> 00:39:08.620 Play by our rules Or you will live you will either sell at the price that we dictate or you will sell nothing 00:39:09.260 --> 00:39:11.740 Now there's a problem with that 00:39:12.460 --> 00:39:18.620 The problem with that is that then they are exerting a kind of ridiculous level of control 00:39:19.260 --> 00:39:22.780 Over their you know partners and really not treating them very well 00:39:23.420 --> 00:39:27.820 Especially if they don't give them enough margin to survive see exhibit a 00:39:27.820 --> 00:39:33.500 evga Who didn't survive in the graphics card market because they simply 00:39:34.300 --> 00:39:38.220 And this is this is a little bit of conjecture on my part, but simply got squeezed out 00:39:38.380 --> 00:39:41.500 There was just not enough margin for them to continue to make it 00:39:43.260 --> 00:39:46.780 Um Now here's where the story gets a little bit 00:39:47.260 --> 00:39:54.060 Where we get a little bit more color commentary on the story We spoke with a system integrator who had a bit of a different 00:39:54.700 --> 00:39:58.300 And I wouldn't say different take but a more a more expanded upon take 00:39:58.620 --> 00:40:03.100 Their their take was basically that all AMD really cares about to call this launch a success 00:40:03.500 --> 00:40:09.900 Is to see big lineups at microcenter and we did see some evidence that microcenter got a 00:40:10.780 --> 00:40:15.340 Huge allocation compared to what was available online. I don't know this for sure 00:40:15.900 --> 00:40:19.260 But it does seem like Retail 00:40:19.260 --> 00:40:22.220 I feel like we're I feel like we've gone back two decades 00:40:22.940 --> 00:40:27.580 It does seem like retail Got the priority for the launch 00:40:27.820 --> 00:40:30.620 Compared to e-tail compared to online 00:40:31.180 --> 00:40:36.060 which Again, you want to talk about things that I don't remember seeing in my entire career 00:40:36.860 --> 00:40:43.580 Well, that's one of them That's wild dude that the way to get these products on launch day is that you have you like go 00:40:44.060 --> 00:40:46.620 Line up and buy something in person 00:40:47.660 --> 00:40:52.860 um So they were pretty frustrated their total allocation 00:40:53.340 --> 00:40:59.340 Of 90 70 x t's from one board partner that they were able to use in their systems was three units 00:41:00.060 --> 00:41:03.820 Those units their cost was over msrp 00:41:05.100 --> 00:41:09.740 So what that tells me what that tells me is that 00:41:10.780 --> 00:41:15.980 We are not getting the whole story from AMD because it's very clear from those retailers telling us 00:41:16.060 --> 00:41:19.580 Hey, we only have pricing support on a limited number of these cards 00:41:20.220 --> 00:41:24.940 And AMD never actually said That the everyday msrp will be 00:41:25.660 --> 00:41:31.020 Or the everyday price on these cards will be 549 599 all they said is that they'll continue to be available 00:41:31.420 --> 00:41:39.740 They didn't say in what kinds of quantities, right? So what that tells us is that it takes some kind of spiff or pos rebate 00:41:40.220 --> 00:41:43.740 Or something in order to hit these prices. These are not 00:41:44.300 --> 00:41:50.540 Everyday prices because if they were then an si would be able to buy a card at 00:41:51.100 --> 00:41:56.380 570 dollars and make a few points of margin selling it at 599 00:41:57.020 --> 00:42:04.780 That would be possible But what tends to happen when your pricing is controlled via spiff or via instant rebate 00:42:05.260 --> 00:42:08.060 Is that only the large players will have access to that? 00:42:08.380 --> 00:42:12.300 And so when you go buy something at a mom and pop shop or from a small system integrator 00:42:12.700 --> 00:42:16.060 It'll be at a much higher price because they don't have access to any of that 00:42:16.300 --> 00:42:22.300 They just buy from a distributor and the prices whatever the channel prices, whatever the market will bear 00:42:23.900 --> 00:42:28.300 Another element that they brought up with us is that curiously 00:42:29.740 --> 00:42:34.700 A lot Hover ship said his 9070 xt 00:42:35.500 --> 00:42:37.500 From microcenter was 1100 dollars 00:42:39.180 --> 00:42:45.660 Yeah, that doesn't surprise you um Okay, how do I say this in a nice way? He said 789 what? 00:42:46.220 --> 00:42:51.020 Oh, okay, okay. He said 1100 and then he said 79. Okay, okay 789 00:42:51.340 --> 00:42:54.300 Okay, that actually ties really well into the next point 00:42:55.020 --> 00:43:00.540 This si contact who we're not going to name just because we don't want them to get in trouble for giving us this inside baseball 00:43:01.420 --> 00:43:06.460 This si contact pointed out that it's curious that a lot of the cards 00:43:07.180 --> 00:43:12.460 Have ended up kind of it for for the 70 for the 9070 xt have ended up in the 00:43:13.100 --> 00:43:18.380 kind of 720 dollar range Kind of plus depending on how overbuilt they are 00:43:19.180 --> 00:43:26.380 Well, here's something to consider 599 plus a 20 tariff equals what? 00:43:29.260 --> 00:43:31.260 720 dollars 00:43:33.260 --> 00:43:37.180 Gotcha and here's the thing Here's the thing 00:43:37.180 --> 00:43:43.020 When NVIDIA launched their newest generation cards, they didn't know what the tariffs would be 00:43:43.500 --> 00:43:52.460 There is at least An argument to be made that NVIDIA did not know that there would be tariffs on their cards impacting the pricing and don't kid yourself 00:43:53.020 --> 00:43:55.420 There are tariffs and they are impacting the pricing 00:43:56.300 --> 00:43:59.580 AMD knew 00:43:59.580 --> 00:44:03.500 Before AMD announced their retail msrp 00:44:04.300 --> 00:44:08.620 They knew that there would be 20 tariffs on these cards if they were shipping out of china 00:44:09.180 --> 00:44:11.660 And many many of them are manufactured there 00:44:12.540 --> 00:44:16.940 So what it appears to me and i can't say this for certain 00:44:17.340 --> 00:44:21.180 But with all of the evidence that i've seen and with all of the experience that i have 00:44:21.660 --> 00:44:28.220 What it appears to me is happening here is AMD wanted to undercut NVIDIA on their msrp 00:44:29.340 --> 00:44:33.420 Is selling these cards into the market with 20 tariffs on them 00:44:34.460 --> 00:44:41.500 knowing that Realistically, their their partners will not be able to hit those prices across 00:44:42.220 --> 00:44:46.300 The entire inventory that they have but that they could strategically 00:44:46.700 --> 00:44:49.900 Trickle out a few of them at that price while selling the rest 00:44:50.380 --> 00:44:57.180 At a much higher price that reflects the tariffs which they expect customers to simply accept and absorb 00:44:57.900 --> 00:45:01.420 Because GPU prices are so high in the market 00:45:02.300 --> 00:45:08.540 It appears to me that AMD has no real intention of actually hitting those prices 00:45:09.420 --> 00:45:14.540 But it may not be entirely their fault because AMD certainly didn't start a trade war 00:45:16.300 --> 00:45:22.540 Question, uh, yeah, I don't think while you were working at insects. There was noticeable tariffs 00:45:22.620 --> 00:45:29.420 But no, do you know anyone or have any experience with stores that operate during like i haven't seen this so far 00:45:29.500 --> 00:45:37.580 But would it be normal to display? That like this is the base price and then it increases by this much because of the tariff like would you explain that? 00:45:37.580 --> 00:45:42.700 No to the user what would normally happen is if you were a canadian store 00:45:42.860 --> 00:45:46.780 Let's say or actually let's let's use a chinese store as a as a better example 00:45:47.180 --> 00:45:51.580 If you were a chinese store and by chinese store, I don't mean ali express dot com 00:45:52.060 --> 00:45:57.580 That's very much owned by ali baba group or whatever right but like it's very much a chinese store 00:45:57.900 --> 00:46:04.940 But it is it has an english storefront Like it is a it is a you know western storefront for a chinese company 00:46:05.340 --> 00:46:11.820 So when I say chinese store i'm talking like tau bao like an actual like four chinese people in china 00:46:12.220 --> 00:46:19.260 chinese store So the way that I would expect them to handle it is if you are ordering from a tariff country 00:46:19.740 --> 00:46:24.700 They would either have some kind of disclaimer that there may be that they're not responsible for any 00:46:25.420 --> 00:46:29.500 Import duties tariffs whatever and then you would be slapped with a tariff bill when it arrives 00:46:29.980 --> 00:46:37.180 When it arrives, yeah, that's how I would expect that to happen If you are a retailer and you are buying in bulk from a tariff source 00:46:37.660 --> 00:46:44.060 Then I would expect that to simply be bundled into your cost the same way that anything else would be whether it's freight or 00:46:44.700 --> 00:46:49.020 You know transaction fees or or whatever else like when we were at ncix 00:46:49.740 --> 00:46:54.060 You would have kind of we had kind of like a cheat sheet for what the rough costs would be 00:46:54.060 --> 00:47:03.020 So on something like a power supply I could I could basically say as long as i'm ordering in pallet quantities and not in in just box quantities 00:47:03.500 --> 00:47:07.740 Somewhere in the neighborhood of around over the time that I was there freight costs went up a lot 00:47:07.820 --> 00:47:12.460 So it started at around a dollar a dollar fifty and then went up to probably around 00:47:12.860 --> 00:47:18.140 Two dollars to two dollars and fifty cents per power supply in terms of factoring in your freight cost 00:47:18.540 --> 00:47:25.340 So you would just account for that that that import tariff as part of your of your import cost of the item 00:47:25.420 --> 00:47:29.340 And then you would mark up from there and that would be transparent to the customer other than just that 00:47:29.820 --> 00:47:31.820 The prices suck 00:47:32.940 --> 00:47:36.460 Okay Fair enough 00:47:36.460 --> 00:47:38.460 So in summary 00:47:40.140 --> 00:47:44.140 I don't think That AMD 00:47:45.100 --> 00:47:47.980 Had any intention of these cards being 00:47:48.940 --> 00:47:52.220 universally available at these prices um 00:47:52.220 --> 00:47:58.540 Or if they did have an intention I think that it might have been kind of um a misguided hope 00:47:59.100 --> 00:48:04.060 Or I mean I I mean things have gone kind of ping-pong back and forth on the whole tariff thing a fair bit 00:48:04.300 --> 00:48:10.380 So maybe it was a naive hope then that the tariffs would not be there and that they would be able to hit them 00:48:10.620 --> 00:48:15.660 But as it is now I don't think they did on china. I think they did on canada than mexico 00:48:16.300 --> 00:48:20.300 Oh, like actually, yeah, I know that's right um, so as it is now 00:48:20.860 --> 00:48:27.180 I think that the more I think the more transparent thing for AMD AMD to do would be to say 00:48:28.060 --> 00:48:31.180 There are outside factors impacting our costs 00:48:31.740 --> 00:48:36.140 We are going to do our best to make sure that there are cards available at these msrp's 00:48:36.780 --> 00:48:42.220 Um, however, it is very clear from these external factors that are impacting our costs 00:48:42.620 --> 00:48:49.340 to import these cards, um That not every card will be available at these prices and we are effectively 00:48:49.900 --> 00:48:58.620 going to be Shifting margin from the buckets on the cards where we're making money down to these 00:48:59.420 --> 00:49:05.340 deeply discounted ones at msrp msrp is a is a discounted price 00:49:05.420 --> 00:49:08.140 It's a promotional price as far as I can tell 00:49:08.620 --> 00:49:15.340 um, and I am I'm deeply this I'm disappointed disappointed. This guy's about to say I'm deeply discounted 00:49:16.780 --> 00:49:18.780 um 00:49:20.380 --> 00:49:26.780 Yeah Speaking of you being deeply discounted you can take off the hat. Oh, yeah, thanks. No worries 00:49:31.820 --> 00:49:37.580 There we go that is much more comfortable headphones over top of a took is not my vibe 00:49:38.540 --> 00:49:44.940 Yeah Uh, so anything else questions or people people board of this conversation 00:49:45.340 --> 00:49:49.260 I can't I can't tell if they they were into it or not because I don't have all my chats open 00:49:51.740 --> 00:49:56.060 Yeah, it seems like people are all right with it. So yeah, uh, good luck everybody 00:49:57.580 --> 00:50:01.980 The discussion questions are pretty good. Um, what is the source of the supply shortage? 00:50:02.060 --> 00:50:05.980 How are board partners feeling? I'm sure they would much rather be selling more GPU's 00:50:06.540 --> 00:50:11.900 And then do you think NVIDIA and AMD are indulging in scarcity marketing? No, well, I don't think so 00:50:11.980 --> 00:50:15.100 No, I don't think marketing is the primary driver. I think with AMD 00:50:15.740 --> 00:50:18.460 Um, I mean their GPU launches have been 00:50:19.020 --> 00:50:24.860 Low volume and then their post launch sales have been even lower volume for years and years and years at this point 00:50:24.940 --> 00:50:32.540 Like I remember Having like a really silly conversation with a viewer at one point where they were like, why don't you ever acknowledge vega 56? 00:50:32.620 --> 00:50:37.740 I'm like, what are you even talking about? I literally like seven of them I pulled up. Yeah, I pulled up new egg and I was like 00:50:38.380 --> 00:50:43.740 There's one card and it's like an open box card like this this GPU effectively doesn't exist 00:50:43.740 --> 00:50:48.220 What are you even talking about or like no, it wasn't vega at 56. It was radion seven 00:50:49.020 --> 00:50:54.940 Well, even vega miners bought all of them. Yeah, but no radion seven was different radion seven just wasn't a card 00:50:55.420 --> 00:51:00.860 It was this like weird launch thing AMD made like a few of them with their partners 00:51:00.860 --> 00:51:04.940 It was like repurposed dies from some workstation or compute card or something 00:51:05.420 --> 00:51:10.460 And then they dropped driver support like immediately for it. Like it was a complete clown show of a product 00:51:10.540 --> 00:51:16.540 it wasn't a real product and And people were like, oh why don't you don't acknowledge mg the radio? 00:51:16.780 --> 00:51:21.900 It's like dude drop the drop your fanboy because I don't care that doesn't you're not making sense 00:51:21.980 --> 00:51:29.980 You don't make any sense right now So that but that's been AMD's situation for years and years and years. I mean even 7900 series 00:51:30.540 --> 00:51:38.300 Kind of did okay But that was it. It kind of did okay. I'm not convinced that they made any enormous volume of these cards 00:51:38.780 --> 00:51:44.540 So if I was AMD and their partners even if I thought I might have something good on my hands 00:51:45.340 --> 00:51:52.380 I'd have like ptsd from how many times I'd been given the smackdown from NVIDIA every time I tried to launch something decent 00:51:52.700 --> 00:51:59.500 And have them just like pull another ace out of their butt crack and be like boom guess you get to sell nothing 00:52:00.460 --> 00:52:05.020 So overbuilding for them. I mean it's risky. You got to think about the numbers involved here 00:52:05.340 --> 00:52:08.780 Okay, guys think about the numbers if I'm AMD. Okay 00:52:09.420 --> 00:52:12.220 Or I'm let's actually let's put ourselves in the in the 00:52:12.780 --> 00:52:19.100 In the situation of a board partner instead because that's a much tougher one AMD's margins are going to be better 00:52:19.500 --> 00:52:24.620 And their their inventory holdings are going to be lower because AMD only holds 00:52:25.340 --> 00:52:35.420 GPUs or in some cases don't quote me on this But my understanding at least on the NVIDIA side is that they will actually provide kits like GPU kits to board partners 00:52:35.500 --> 00:52:38.940 And that will include the GPU and the memory so they may take some margin there 00:52:39.020 --> 00:52:44.220 They may actually take on some inventory risk there Don't quote me on that for AMD or even NVIDIA for that matter 00:52:44.220 --> 00:52:49.500 But what i'm saying is that they carry inventory for only part of the finished product 00:52:50.060 --> 00:52:59.180 The board partner They have to take on inventory for the GPU die itself for the memory for the power delivery components the pc raw pcb's any 00:52:59.340 --> 00:53:06.220 Connectors and dudads coolers coolers are a very significant expense. So they are holding enormous inventory 00:53:06.540 --> 00:53:10.940 There's lead time in terms of building them packing them shipping them. So by the time 00:53:11.580 --> 00:53:16.220 They're actually delivering this thing to a consumer if all goes according to plan 00:53:16.620 --> 00:53:24.460 They have paid all of their all of their suppliers for this stuff They are effectively probably not able to utilize their their net payment terms much 00:53:24.860 --> 00:53:28.220 And that becomes even more true the longer this thing sits and rods 00:53:28.620 --> 00:53:32.780 So if i'm a board partner and we're talking about a 599 product 00:53:33.100 --> 00:53:36.460 I can assume that my bill of materials is probably somewhere in the neighborhood of 00:53:37.020 --> 00:53:42.940 400 to 450 dollars At least so let's use let's use 450 00:53:43.900 --> 00:53:52.540 If i overbook Right like if i overestimate and i'm a global company, right? So for i'm sapphire, right? 00:53:53.260 --> 00:53:55.900 I got a supply if i supply even one 00:53:56.540 --> 00:54:00.780 Single GPU to every computer shop around the world. How many am i making? 00:54:01.340 --> 00:54:08.300 right hundreds of thousands Millions, you know, we're talking about enormous amounts of money 00:54:08.780 --> 00:54:11.820 So if i if i get it wrong by even 00:54:12.700 --> 00:54:17.420 5 000 units, right? That's 2.25 million dollars 00:54:19.260 --> 00:54:25.340 I can't get it wrong And if i'm gonna get it wrong i'd rather get it wrong on the low side 00:54:25.740 --> 00:54:31.420 Especially if i've been burned time and time and time and time again 00:54:32.220 --> 00:54:36.620 On building a bunch of these stupid radion cards and then nobody freaking wanting them 00:54:37.340 --> 00:54:42.460 Right So no, I don't think this is scarcity marketing 00:54:42.940 --> 00:54:47.980 I think this is on the invidious side them just much rather using these 00:54:48.460 --> 00:54:55.660 um These waivers to build ai products and on the AMD side. I think this is as simple as 00:54:56.460 --> 00:55:00.940 Not buying enough allocation not buying enough wafer allocation from tsmc 00:55:01.020 --> 00:55:04.540 I'm sure AMD would love to be selling more cards, but they've got a book waivers 00:55:05.100 --> 00:55:11.260 Months in advance They don't know that invidious 50 series is going to suck back when they're booking 00:55:11.820 --> 00:55:15.580 Launch allocation for production for 90 70. They don't know that 00:55:16.460 --> 00:55:19.820 They might have Uh, that is awful by the way 00:55:20.460 --> 00:55:28.620 I can pick you up louder and clear. Oh, yeah Um, all right. I'll stop. Yeah, or just lean away. Maybe. Uh, anyway, the point is that um 00:55:29.580 --> 00:55:34.220 I I don't know. I don't know that invidious is going to lay a huge egg 00:55:34.700 --> 00:55:38.140 On their 50 series launch. I might have some sort of 00:55:39.340 --> 00:55:45.980 Whispers and scuttlebutt But I'm not going to know that their pricing is going to suck because invidious probably hasn't even determined their pricing yet 00:55:45.980 --> 00:55:49.980 And they certainly haven't leaked it to anybody. We don't find out until the very last minute 00:55:50.380 --> 00:55:53.900 So if I'm AMD, I'm going like oh my god. I don't know how many waivers because 00:55:54.620 --> 00:55:57.180 5080 might be they might pull a 30 series 00:55:57.820 --> 00:56:02.620 And just like boom Try to go after the console market. You guys remember that, right? 00:56:03.180 --> 00:56:06.620 That's how aggressive invidia can be when they want to be 00:56:07.420 --> 00:56:11.660 Because they were like basically f*** the playstation with this radion 00:56:12.460 --> 00:56:14.460 Graphics hardware in it f*** the xbox 00:56:15.740 --> 00:56:21.660 3080 is I forget what the 3080 msrp was but it I think it was like 600 bucks or something like that like it was aggressive 00:56:22.220 --> 00:56:27.020 And the 70 was so powerful. It was such good pricing, right? Invidia can be aggressive 00:56:27.820 --> 00:56:32.300 So I don't want to overplay my Pathetic, you know 90 70 hand 00:56:32.860 --> 00:56:37.260 If I think I might be up against invidious top tier GPU at that price. I have no idea 00:56:37.580 --> 00:56:43.580 But then as it turned out AMD was going to be up against their like fourth tier down and they were super competitive 00:56:44.300 --> 00:56:46.780 So yeah, they might ramp things up, but it's going to take time 00:56:48.220 --> 00:56:53.100 What else did we have for discussion here? I think that's it for the GPU's 00:56:53.980 --> 00:56:58.140 All right, good chat Fascinate 00:56:58.380 --> 00:57:01.980 What do you want to talk about today? Oh, oh my god. Are we supposed to do merge messages already down? 00:57:01.980 --> 00:57:08.460 Did I just take way too long to go through that? Yeah, you spoke for about 40 45 minutes. Oh, so very long 00:57:08.860 --> 00:57:13.980 We better rush through the rest of this. Okay. Was it was it boring? Sorry. I'm feeling insecure 00:57:14.540 --> 00:57:20.140 I think it was pretty good. I would have cut you off, but yeah, it was uh, I think it was good. It was just really long 00:57:20.620 --> 00:57:25.500 cool um 00:57:26.220 --> 00:57:28.220 Circumcision doctor says what? 00:57:29.580 --> 00:57:34.140 It's probably up there for one of the longest topics we've ever done. Uh, okay. Cool. Yeah 00:57:34.940 --> 00:57:38.780 Dead anti-social and Floatplane chat says you talk too much on your show 00:57:42.060 --> 00:57:48.140 All right, uh merge messages the way to interact with the show is to send a merge message 00:57:48.540 --> 00:57:52.540 We don't do twitch bits. We don't do um, whatever the other thing is, uh 00:57:53.420 --> 00:57:58.620 Super chats we do merge messages because the way we see it if you're gonna throw money at your screen 00:57:58.860 --> 00:58:03.500 You should get some fine lttstore.com merchandise in return 00:58:03.900 --> 00:58:07.660 And we've got a great little launch for you guys this week introducing 00:58:11.180 --> 00:58:15.660 The terminally online pun very much intended 00:58:15.980 --> 00:58:19.980 Thank you 00:58:20.220 --> 00:58:30.060 There we go hoodie and t-shirt It is a brand new design that is an homage to 90s hardware and to your lifelong commitment to being online 00:58:30.300 --> 00:58:33.980 It's available as both a hoodie and a t-shirt and I gotta say man 00:58:34.060 --> 00:58:39.420 I saw the hoodie on set the other day and I was like, yo, is that ours because I had forgotten that I greenlit this design 00:58:39.660 --> 00:58:51.020 The hoodie looks flipping sick It does these are printed to order here in canada for a long lasting vibrant print that was very well reviewed by project farm 00:58:51.340 --> 00:58:56.940 On our classic cozy terry cotton hoodie blanks or our legendary t-shirt blanks 00:58:57.020 --> 00:59:03.420 And like most of our sweatshirts the hoodie also features a secure pocket for your phone wallet keys or earbuds 00:59:03.740 --> 00:59:08.060 Get it now at LMG.gg slash terminally online 00:59:08.860 --> 00:59:13.180 And I would say our t-shirts are pretty well priced even with tariffs. Let's go 00:59:13.980 --> 00:59:18.140 Uh, yeah, they're putting a lot of pressure on me to increase our t-shirt pricing by the way 00:59:18.700 --> 00:59:24.220 So I'm not surprised I've wanted to treat the t-shirts like the cosco hotdog 00:59:24.780 --> 00:59:31.180 I even told someone in a meeting I'll kill you if you increase the price of the t-shirt. It's a reference. It's a reference 00:59:31.980 --> 00:59:39.180 It's a reference Did arianna know that before now? Um, yeah, it was nick so it doesn't matter. Um 00:59:40.940 --> 00:59:45.340 I can threaten to kill nick. It's fine. The point is point is that uh 00:59:46.700 --> 00:59:50.860 It's a reference. It's a referee gets he knows the reference 00:59:51.980 --> 00:59:55.260 He'll kill him in minecraft. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah 00:59:56.220 --> 00:59:57.900 Yeah, um 01:00:04.620 --> 01:00:08.140 And they are telling me that all our t-shirt pricing is becoming 01:00:08.700 --> 01:00:11.820 Untenable. Uh, we have never adjusted it. It's funny. We take 01:00:12.460 --> 01:00:16.700 So much flak for our supposedly expensive products and yeah, oh here it is 01:00:20.540 --> 01:00:23.100 This is an extremely expensive hoodie 01:00:23.820 --> 01:00:27.420 I get it It is embroidered 01:00:27.740 --> 01:00:36.780 This is not printed Go find me an all-over embroidered garment that is less than 150 us dollars 01:00:38.060 --> 01:00:42.140 Go find it. It should it should probably be at least a sweater because someone's gonna find like 01:00:43.260 --> 01:00:48.540 The sure like find me pants or a hoodie find me pants or a hoodie something big 01:00:49.100 --> 01:00:54.780 It costs a fortune. What do you want from me? Not every product is for everybody all over embroidered not just a little logo 01:00:55.740 --> 01:00:58.780 Not every product is for every person. I know it's expensive 01:00:58.940 --> 01:01:04.540 But what it isn't is overpriced. It's priced for what it is. Anyway, the point is our t-shirts. They're like 20 bucks 01:01:04.780 --> 01:01:13.660 I can't think of a single other Like creator merch that is 20 dollars for a t-shirt for a printed t quality printed t 01:01:13.740 --> 01:01:18.460 So I don't even want to hear it. Um, anyway, the point is that we've also we've also got the hoodie 01:01:18.540 --> 01:01:22.620 Which you guys can see here, which by the way also has printing on the back which costs us more 01:01:23.340 --> 01:01:25.980 And that's 60 us dollars for our fine 01:01:26.700 --> 01:01:32.380 Terminally online hoodie. This is a great shot by the way. I love this. There they are 01:01:33.580 --> 01:01:43.100 Gen Z Not talking to each other on their phones. It's perfect. It's flawless great job Tatiana sammy and I assume already was probably involved in that shoot as well 01:01:44.540 --> 01:01:47.740 I'm trying to find a sweater because there's like there's probably one of them 01:01:47.900 --> 01:01:51.900 What I'm finding is a lot of them will say embroidered design and it's printed 01:01:52.060 --> 01:01:57.980 But it looks like it's embroidered digitized D says I digitize embroidery and I promise that's cheap for a hoodie 01:01:58.940 --> 01:02:05.020 Exactly And I'm not okay. It's not cheap, but what it is is fair. It is fairly priced 01:02:05.740 --> 01:02:09.020 We have we have a cost markup model for our stuff 01:02:09.820 --> 01:02:12.620 We're not demanding some ridiculous margin 01:02:13.100 --> 01:02:21.980 Um And if you think we are hey, you don't have to buy anything. That's totally okay. Uh, any uh, any uh news on the uh 01:02:22.700 --> 01:02:25.900 I left it alone for a while. I did I was a good boy for a little bit 01:02:25.980 --> 01:02:29.980 I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna get one in there. What's coming any news on the talls 01:02:30.860 --> 01:02:35.340 Oh the tall blanks. I I I don't know as far as I know. We're just ordering them 01:02:35.740 --> 01:02:41.340 I was told I was told we have no less than three million dollars of inventory incoming 01:02:42.140 --> 01:02:48.620 so Things are a little bare right now on the store. Okay, we know we know and I have been told 01:02:49.020 --> 01:02:53.260 We have three million dollars of stuff on order. So hopefully there's some tall blanks in there 01:02:54.060 --> 01:02:58.620 But that's all I know a bunch of tall blanks immediately because I'm not waiting this time. Let's go 01:02:59.500 --> 01:03:05.660 I'm just gonna buy a bunch immediately. I was nice last time. I was like, I'll let the audience get some this time screw you guys 01:03:06.460 --> 01:03:11.100 I'm tired of this. I don't want to wait like seven more months to be able to buy a shirt 01:03:13.580 --> 01:03:16.620 I will sit on WAN Show when they're announced and I will order them live 01:03:17.180 --> 01:03:21.100 I will race all of you. Oh my goodness fight me now. Okay 01:03:22.700 --> 01:03:27.260 um Anyway, uh, we have an announcement if you were wondering 01:03:28.460 --> 01:03:31.740 about the Tuk that I was wearing 01:03:31.740 --> 01:03:37.500 I refused to call it a beanie. That is my uh, that is my act of solidarity with my fellow Canadians in this trying time 01:03:37.980 --> 01:03:45.260 Uh, if you're wondering about the tuk that I was wearing earlier It's because the why is wan late series a fan favorite Floatplane exclusive series 01:03:45.260 --> 01:03:49.100 That shows you the behind the scenes of what luke and I are up to each friday 01:03:49.340 --> 01:03:52.860 We've been competing to see who is the one who makes a wan late 01:03:53.660 --> 01:04:01.260 And as you can see I lost most recently to see all seven episodes in this monthly series head over to LMG.gg 01:04:01.580 --> 01:04:05.340 Slash Floatplane Actually, I'll lose every time 01:04:05.340 --> 01:04:08.700 Actually, I think I have a new I think I have a new favorite exclusive over there 01:04:09.020 --> 01:04:13.660 I checked out a little bit of this and then sammy told me I had to stop watching it because he wants to get me 01:04:13.660 --> 01:04:15.980 To react to it, but it is so funny 01:04:16.860 --> 01:04:20.140 LMG team members share their first meeting with me 01:04:20.780 --> 01:04:24.220 So we've got emily from the editing team mark from the editing team 01:04:24.540 --> 01:04:27.980 Vance the executive assistant and then nicole from hr 01:04:28.620 --> 01:04:34.780 And uh, excuse me. Um, what do they call? Oh bloody hell. What's the like custodian version of hr? 01:04:35.500 --> 01:04:38.780 Uh, culture and talent culture and talent department 01:04:39.580 --> 01:04:45.260 Custodian version. Yeah, like like custodian versus janitor receptionist versus secretary 01:04:46.220 --> 01:04:50.860 Culture and talent instead of hr You know, like, uh, yeah 01:04:51.580 --> 01:04:59.180 Sure Yeah, sure. All right. Anyway, people are loving this one. Uh, check it out at LMG.gg slash Floatplane 01:05:00.140 --> 01:05:05.180 Oh, we haven't even done a merge message yet, right? How do you send a merge message? You go on the store pick up something nice and in the cart 01:05:05.260 --> 01:05:11.660 You will see a little box to send a merge message to producer Dan who has been waiting 01:05:12.620 --> 01:05:18.540 Staged for this terminally online moment for lord only knows how long and 01:05:19.980 --> 01:05:26.140 And we'll give us a who will either reply to your message pop it up down there or curate it for me and luke to talk about 01:05:26.460 --> 01:05:31.260 I get me Dan. I get one occasionally. Why do you guys completely remove products from the website? 01:05:31.340 --> 01:05:38.140 I the tech bro or the workshop jacket it means there's no info and tech specs to reference for reselling or just product comparing in general 01:05:38.460 --> 01:05:45.020 Um, because it was confusing and made the site really cluttered for people who were shopping for stuff that we do have for sale 01:05:45.420 --> 01:05:52.460 However, when we I think there's a redesign coming up that will include an old product archive and we we are going to do that 01:05:53.660 --> 01:05:57.660 It's taking longer than I would like but I 01:05:57.660 --> 01:06:02.940 Don't know what to say other than things take time sometimes and I'm really sorry for that 01:06:04.060 --> 01:06:06.540 Hey DLL on launch day. I tried to buy a 01:06:07.340 --> 01:06:14.300 9070 xt while watching stock vanish. I accidentally bought a 9070 for 650 us dollars 01:06:15.420 --> 01:06:19.820 On new egg. Should I just cut my losses and return it or is this an okay price? 01:06:20.140 --> 01:06:24.380 I Was it 650 650 01:06:24.940 --> 01:06:31.820 Man, I do not love that card. Um, however, it's so hard to determine what an okay price is when nothing's in stock 01:06:31.900 --> 01:06:36.940 And all the price is just yo-yoing constantly like a big problem with the 9070 is the clock speed 01:06:37.340 --> 01:06:41.580 Like yeah, it's got fewer cu's and and all of that, but it has 16 gigs of RAM 01:06:42.220 --> 01:06:49.260 Um, and so a big part of the problem is the clock speed. I actually we didn't there was we don't have much time when it comes to launch 01:06:49.500 --> 01:06:54.460 Like launch embargo reviews. So I don't know if it over clocks like a bad out of hell 01:06:54.860 --> 01:06:57.020 like it's possible that that card could be 01:06:58.060 --> 01:07:02.140 a much more competent card than it reviewed as 01:07:02.780 --> 01:07:06.860 um, I don't love that card at that price and personally 01:07:07.500 --> 01:07:13.180 I still have not actually pulled the trigger on my 50 90 upgrade for this cycle because 01:07:13.820 --> 01:07:17.740 Um, I'm waiting to see if ploof actually doesn't go through with his order 01:07:18.060 --> 01:07:24.380 He has a pre-order in at best buy and He said he'd give it to me because he decided not to go through with it 01:07:24.380 --> 01:07:29.260 But I think he might change his mind still so I'm not going to hold him to it but um, I'll take that but I 01:07:29.900 --> 01:07:37.820 I got to be honest with you guys on principle and it's funny because I I often see people kind of getting on me about 01:07:38.380 --> 01:07:42.780 being rich and Sorry, what how did you phrase it? 01:07:42.860 --> 01:07:49.500 quite wealthy Okay, yeah, you want to talk shade mr. I'm gonna buy a plane 01:07:50.700 --> 01:07:52.700 I'm not talking shade. I'm not talking shade 01:07:53.900 --> 01:07:57.900 What I'm saying is What I'm saying is 01:08:01.340 --> 01:08:05.580 Sorry, you need a minute. You need a minute. I'm good. I'm good. So I'll often pee 01:08:05.660 --> 01:08:11.420 I'll often see people kind of come at me because I'll say like look no, that's expensive. I'm not gonna buy 01:08:12.140 --> 01:08:15.740 Yeah, the reality of it is I could buy a 50 90. I could buy a 50 90 right now 01:08:15.820 --> 01:08:21.580 I could go on ebay. I could buy a scalp 50 90, but that I'm not going to because that's lame 01:08:23.020 --> 01:08:25.820 Because I'm sitting here telling you guys 01:08:26.700 --> 01:08:34.380 Don't buy scalped GPU's Don't contribute to the crappiness of the GPU market by paying these prices. So 01:08:35.260 --> 01:08:39.100 What because I'm in a position where I can just afford to just buy it 01:08:39.260 --> 01:08:42.540 So then I just should how hypocritical would that be? 01:08:42.940 --> 01:08:47.420 And so I was looking at the uh, I was looking at the comments on the um, the macbook announcement video 01:08:47.820 --> 01:08:51.180 Where I was like, yeah, all this sucks. I bought mine at a bad time 01:08:51.660 --> 01:08:57.180 And half of it is people telling me to return it because I'm within 10 days, but guys movie magic 01:08:57.740 --> 01:09:02.380 Our video came out 10 days ago. I bought it like three weeks ago almost. So no, I can't return it 01:09:02.780 --> 01:09:07.100 Um, and then the other half was people telling me, you know, suck it up cry, baby 01:09:07.900 --> 01:09:10.860 You can afford to buy a new one anyway, and I can but that's not the point 01:09:10.940 --> 01:09:16.780 That doesn't change anything that doesn't change the fact that I bought it at a bad time because I got a last gen product 01:09:17.500 --> 01:09:21.660 Days before apple announced the new one and that sucks. Nobody likes that 01:09:23.020 --> 01:09:30.620 That sucks That's the whole point. Also. I just needed a hook for the intro for the video. I who cares like I literally 01:09:31.100 --> 01:09:34.460 When I was shopping for my macbook bought a last last gen one 01:09:34.460 --> 01:09:39.900 I bought an m2 because I knew that all I was going to do was word process on it and it wasn't going to matter anyway 01:09:40.540 --> 01:09:44.700 So I'm not actually right like I'm not actually mad. I just 01:09:45.340 --> 01:09:50.860 I just am saying a thing. I bought this at the wrong time and that blows it blows for anyone regardless of the money 01:09:52.220 --> 01:09:56.940 You got roasted recently at an event because people were like, well, why do you have the like crappy iphone? 01:09:56.940 --> 01:10:01.020 Oh the 16 plus that guy. Yeah. Yeah, remember. Yeah, because I like I don't know 01:10:01.180 --> 01:10:06.300 I've always as much as as much as you are. What did I say before fairly wealthy or whatever? 01:10:07.020 --> 01:10:09.580 I I've always appreciated that like, you know, you'll sit in 01:10:10.380 --> 01:10:14.940 You'll sit in economy. You'll you'll buy the lower end thing. You'll not scalp stuff like there's 01:10:15.180 --> 01:10:23.260 Well, it's the principle of the principles that you've stuck to. Yeah And the thing with this one is that this is the phone that I thought made the most sense 01:10:23.900 --> 01:10:30.540 in apple's 16 series lineup Yeah, I can afford a pro. Of course I can don't be ridiculous 01:10:31.180 --> 01:10:38.540 Literally, I bought a pro and a pro max or whatever the top spec one is they're sitting in a warehouse 01:10:38.940 --> 01:10:46.780 I literally bought them But this is was the one that I wanted to review the platform on because I thought that in terms of 01:10:47.660 --> 01:10:54.860 What people should actually be spending their money on this was one that made a lot more sense those features on the pro series 01:10:56.300 --> 01:10:59.900 Yeah, I appreciate a higher refresh rate display. Of course I do 01:11:00.780 --> 01:11:07.820 And I guess I'd love to be able to do a 3d scan of my room if the situation arises 01:11:08.940 --> 01:11:12.460 And usb 3 transfer speeds are better for the 01:11:12.940 --> 01:11:18.700 Once every couple months that I'll plug in and I'll do an over the cable backup of my photos or whatever 01:11:19.020 --> 01:11:26.460 But that's it I'm not going to pay hundreds of dollars more for that and I'm especially not going to recommend that someone else 01:11:26.860 --> 01:11:30.700 Pay hundreds of dollars more for that and I think that reviewing a product 01:11:31.020 --> 01:11:36.220 The way that I would actually recommend buying it is more useful. I think that's more meaningful 01:11:36.620 --> 01:11:44.620 It's kind of like um years ago. Actually Um anytime we would order a laptop alex would ask that instead of ordering the starting at configuration 01:11:45.020 --> 01:11:47.820 We order the minimum we would recommend 01:11:48.380 --> 01:11:54.140 Configuration so if starting at had four gigs of RAM or something we basically don't acknowledge that and we go 01:11:54.540 --> 01:11:59.580 No, this is not a 999 laptop. This is a 1299 laptop. It has 16 gigs of RAM and etc 01:12:00.380 --> 01:12:05.260 I think philosophically that that's something that I can get behind and it's something that I am trying to 01:12:05.580 --> 01:12:08.540 Continue to be behind. Yeah, not pretending. I can't afford it 01:12:09.340 --> 01:12:13.420 I mean you guys are you guys are gonna see some stuff over the next month or so of 01:12:14.860 --> 01:12:17.820 Just stuff that we could do for the memes 01:12:21.340 --> 01:12:23.340 You're gonna see some stuff 01:12:25.100 --> 01:12:27.100 Anyway 01:12:30.700 --> 01:12:33.820 The point is we have our challenges, but we're still we're still doing okay 01:12:35.900 --> 01:12:43.900 No, it is not gonna be a tech yacht. I promise it will not be a tech yacht tech blimp tech blimp. Yeah, sure 01:12:44.700 --> 01:12:47.980 Sure, let me get right on that. But one person in a laptop on it 01:12:48.700 --> 01:12:56.700 Oh Thanks, Dan. Uh, oh right. Did we ever do a second merge message? Yes. Oh wonderful. What am I supposed to do? 01:12:57.420 --> 01:13:00.060 Let's go straight into sponsors. 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Uh, let's let's cover the firefox terms rewrite because uh, we were we were a little kind of unsure about it last time 01:16:32.860 --> 01:16:39.900 I was pretty sure that's not what they meant at the very least So i'm happy that they have done this although. I haven't actually reviewed it. I'm assuming it's fine 01:16:40.220 --> 01:16:45.340 Mozilla has responded to user backlash over new firefox terms of use introduced last week 01:16:45.820 --> 01:16:52.860 rewriting the policy to Address the overly broad lang language. That's one way of saying it used in the original version 01:16:53.580 --> 01:17:00.380 which You know critics said the language implied that mozilla was asking for rights to any data input 01:17:01.100 --> 01:17:05.820 Or uploaded or anything uploaded through firefox, which is literally what it said 01:17:05.980 --> 01:17:11.420 So yep, uh, which raised concerns about data being sold to advertisers or used to train ai 01:17:11.980 --> 01:17:16.780 Mozilla claimed that the new terms didn't represent a change in the way that the company used data 01:17:16.940 --> 01:17:22.540 And that the company's ability to use collected data was still limited by a separate firefox privacy notice 01:17:23.020 --> 01:17:27.500 Two days after the initial uproar firefox product chief ajit varma 01:17:28.540 --> 01:17:38.140 Varma, yeah Announced that the terms of use have been rewritten to more clearly reflect the limited scope of how firefox interacts with user data 01:17:38.380 --> 01:17:43.820 And the new terms explicitly state that mozilla does not gain ownership of input content 01:17:44.380 --> 01:17:48.540 Uh discussion question. How diligent are you about reading terms and licenses for the apps you use? 01:17:49.420 --> 01:17:56.860 Not very I think it depends completely honest. I actually read an entire contract today for the first time in a while 01:17:57.340 --> 01:18:00.140 Oh, I read contracts all the time. Oh, I don't read 01:18:00.940 --> 01:18:06.380 Well, that included terms of service. So I guess yeah, but okay. Yeah, it was more of a sales sale contract 01:18:06.460 --> 01:18:12.700 So yeah, I read those for sure. I read every single one of those. I don't uh, when I'm signing stuff on behalf of the company 01:18:12.700 --> 01:18:15.820 I'm a lot more careful if I'm using like 01:18:16.940 --> 01:18:20.220 I don't know like discord, um 01:18:20.220 --> 01:18:24.540 I should because they're almost certainly like selling everything but yeah, I don't 01:18:26.060 --> 01:18:30.380 I don't know. Oh, they're probably not even selling it. I mean, aren't they just where are they based? 01:18:31.740 --> 01:18:35.500 I I think they have significant company ownership in china. Yeah, so they're 01:18:36.060 --> 01:18:39.900 Yeah, so they're just giving it to the chinese government. You know, don't even worry about them selling it 01:18:40.460 --> 01:18:43.260 Yeah, I don't know. Um 01:18:45.260 --> 01:18:49.180 Now I want to know who does own discord. You know by co-founders. I could be super wrong 01:18:51.100 --> 01:18:55.580 I thought there was a significant 10 cents. Oh 10 cents in there 01:18:56.620 --> 01:18:59.660 It says most likely has a majority stake. What does that mean? 01:19:01.340 --> 01:19:05.500 Nice Can you just tell me if it actually does or not? Nice 01:19:10.620 --> 01:19:14.620 I'm not a hundred percent certain because multiple sources say most likely 01:19:15.260 --> 01:19:19.980 I don't know what that means. Is it banned in china? Oh, it's blocked in china 01:19:21.740 --> 01:19:24.540 So it doesn't mean it's not funneling information 01:19:25.020 --> 01:19:28.700 That also doesn't mean that it's not owned by uh by chinese company 01:19:29.180 --> 01:19:34.860 It looks like there hasn't been a lot of conversation about this recently. So you know what? I'm just gonna I'm just gonna 01:19:34.940 --> 01:19:40.060 Un allegedly there. I said allegedly. I don't know. Well, they have some amount of stake 01:19:40.220 --> 01:19:44.300 10 cent seems to have some amount of stake in the company, but it's it's not very clear how much 01:19:46.380 --> 01:19:53.500 I don't know. Anyways, either way. Yeah, I I I read and have raised issues with actually many times 01:19:53.980 --> 01:19:59.580 Um contracts that the company has has signed including one very intense one with 01:20:00.380 --> 01:20:04.220 Yeah, I'll say it one with a sponsor where 01:20:05.500 --> 01:20:10.140 They were they were trying to give us information early, which would have been very helpful 01:20:10.700 --> 01:20:18.540 But I don't even know if you know about this But the contract included a line like three quarters through it that said that we couldn't say any disparaging comments about them ever 01:20:19.820 --> 01:20:23.820 And I was like No 01:20:23.820 --> 01:20:28.620 There's no way we're signing this. No, I think I did hear this one. I think I did hear this one 01:20:29.260 --> 01:20:32.620 You did that would have been hilarious. We would have just we would have just 01:20:33.260 --> 01:20:37.980 Unvatted like we would have had to yeah, we would have had to just say whatever we want because that's not how this works 01:20:38.460 --> 01:20:43.340 We would have had to break contracts. That's hilarious back to them and they're like, oh, like we're whatever I do anything 01:20:43.580 --> 01:20:47.340 Yeah, I was like, no, you're removing this like then you'll have no problem removing it 01:20:48.060 --> 01:20:52.940 Exactly. Yeah. Yeah Oh, that's great, which if I remember quickly 01:20:53.500 --> 01:20:56.940 I don't know that they did no they didn't I don't think they removed it ultimately 01:20:57.420 --> 01:21:02.700 Yeah, so we never signed it. Yeah now there's a man there's been all kinds of stuff like that that's like 01:21:03.340 --> 01:21:09.500 Stuff that we'd love to do that would be beneficial mutually beneficial like we had a we had a laptop company 01:21:10.380 --> 01:21:16.380 Um framework disclosure, but it wasn't framework. So whatever but we had a laptop company come to us recently and say hey 01:21:16.860 --> 01:21:23.340 Like we'd love to integrate more deeply with you guys get feedback on branding and product design 01:21:23.980 --> 01:21:28.380 And uh, you know, give you guys early looks at stuff so that you can kind of 01:21:28.860 --> 01:21:34.300 Help guide us because realistically we really do appreciate your feedback as a as independent media 01:21:34.700 --> 01:21:40.140 But the reality of it is by the time we get it the product's done. So there's not really anything we can do about it 01:21:40.460 --> 01:21:44.860 You know, well, how about this and I had the business team bring it to me and I basically was like 01:21:46.620 --> 01:21:50.060 I don't see what planet this can work on because 01:21:50.860 --> 01:21:53.660 I'm making the exact same gesture as my doppelganger here 01:21:56.460 --> 01:22:04.940 I don't see what planet this can work on because Either we do this for free, which is a complete fucking waste of our time because we're busy and we have a lot to do 01:22:05.500 --> 01:22:13.660 You know, it's not that we don't want to be helpful or whatever It's just like we can't make it a habit to just do consulting for free for everybody. That's ridiculous 01:22:14.300 --> 01:22:17.180 Um, so that's not an option and we can't take money for it 01:22:17.580 --> 01:22:23.820 Because even if they gave us a contract that was like, oh, yeah, you could totally say whatever you want 01:22:24.540 --> 01:22:28.140 We actually wouldn't be able to because anything that 01:22:28.780 --> 01:22:35.340 We were bound by that didn't make it into the final product, right? Like any of that decision-making process 01:22:36.300 --> 01:22:42.860 That we're privy to now because we're privy to it. We wouldn't be able to speculate on it without 01:22:43.100 --> 01:22:47.340 So Sort of violating the 01:22:47.820 --> 01:22:52.380 I mean at least the the spirit of the agreement like you can't like we couldn't um 01:22:53.420 --> 01:22:59.900 Man, imagine if we were doing a review Of this macbook and I'm going to use a far-fetched example 01:22:59.900 --> 01:23:05.100 So that I'm really not giving any hints because I promise you it wasn't apple talking to us about this apple doesn't talk to me 01:23:05.420 --> 01:23:08.140 um, if I was doing a review of this of this macbook like 01:23:09.020 --> 01:23:13.020 Imagine me knowing that I advised them that um 01:23:14.060 --> 01:23:17.500 I do actually like the keyboard. So again, I'm going to use an example that is not real 01:23:18.060 --> 01:23:24.300 Imagine if I advised them that the keyboard sucked and they shipped that sucky keyboard in spite of me saying that I didn't like it 01:23:24.620 --> 01:23:29.580 So now I'm sitting here doing my editorial review and I'm like, yeah, I told them this keyboard sucked 01:23:30.380 --> 01:23:33.180 But they shipped this anyway. So they're especially stupid 01:23:33.420 --> 01:23:38.060 Imagine the strain that that would put on the relationship. Even if I was allowed to say that that's like 01:23:38.940 --> 01:23:43.900 You're just in a position where things are like just not a good idea. Bizarre, you know, yeah 01:23:43.980 --> 01:23:49.660 Like it's it's it's not even like it's not even conflict of interest. It's just conflict. That's just 01:23:50.780 --> 01:23:56.380 That just doesn't work. Um, so I think I think that's come up probably half a dozen times over the years 01:23:56.380 --> 01:24:00.700 And every time I just kind of kick it back and just kind of go like how does this how does this make any sense? 01:24:00.780 --> 01:24:04.700 It doesn't make any sense In the particular example that I laid out as well 01:24:04.780 --> 01:24:09.500 The the thing that was kind of funny to me was that they were it was it was clearly more 01:24:10.140 --> 01:24:14.540 If we ignored the thing that I had to sign It was clearly more beneficial to them 01:24:14.780 --> 01:24:19.020 Like the thing that we would have been doing would have been better for them than it would have been for us 01:24:19.580 --> 01:24:25.580 So it's just kind of stupid But I think I think you know, they're just a pretty big company and they have one boilerplate thing 01:24:25.580 --> 01:24:29.900 And their lawyers just didn't want to change it So like the person I was talking to you understood, I get it 01:24:29.980 --> 01:24:33.260 But they they couldn't get the legal team. It probably would have cost 20 grand 01:24:33.660 --> 01:24:37.580 Because they probably would have had to take the entire agreement back to the law firm and like 01:24:38.380 --> 01:24:43.180 This is why I don't like involving lawyers and things and if you're a lawyer, whatever like nothing personal 01:24:43.260 --> 01:24:47.580 You got you got your expertise. You got to be paid for that. You got a job to do. I get it 01:24:49.420 --> 01:24:52.540 But I don't like talking to you. I don't like talking to you either 01:24:53.980 --> 01:24:59.020 Yeah Sorry, you know, I'm sorry nothing personal 01:24:59.580 --> 01:25:01.580 Uh, what do we want to talk about next? 01:25:03.980 --> 01:25:09.580 Should we do the dig thing? Yeah, let's do the dig thing digs coming back. What? 01:25:10.460 --> 01:25:15.180 Dig founder Kevin Rose and reddit co-founder, uh, alexis ohanian 01:25:15.660 --> 01:25:22.300 Sure have acquired dig with the intent of reviving the platform with a fresh vision to restore the spirit of discovery 01:25:22.540 --> 01:25:27.660 And genuine community that made the early web a fun and exciting place to be. Good luck with that 01:25:27.820 --> 01:25:34.220 I would love it if you can accomplish it dig launched in 2004 with its innovative user curated content system 01:25:34.460 --> 01:25:39.420 And quickly became the homepage of the internet for more than 40 million unique user view 01:25:40.060 --> 01:25:44.220 Visitors a month after a very poorly received redesign in 2010 01:25:44.460 --> 01:25:51.500 users abandoned the site in favor of reddit and by 2012 dig's unique visitor count was down 90 percent from its peak 01:25:51.820 --> 01:25:57.260 And the site and assets were sold off for less than 16 million dollars. Isn't that crazy to think like 01:25:57.900 --> 01:26:03.180 Absolutely crazy considering the heights that it was that nothing and dig was everything 01:26:03.740 --> 01:26:09.340 And practically overnight That was it. That's how fast platforms used to come and go and now 01:26:09.900 --> 01:26:13.980 I mean you've talked about this extensively. We don't have to reopen this can of worms, but it feels like 01:26:15.340 --> 01:26:23.500 Things are so permanent There the momentum is enormous for platforms now. Anyway, carry on. Sorry the motes are huge 01:26:23.580 --> 01:26:27.980 Like anyone attempting to attack youtube is going to lose like it just I don't know 01:26:28.060 --> 01:26:34.540 It is what it is Even even tickhawk like they're winning in a space, but they're they didn't win like youtube style vods 01:26:34.780 --> 01:26:41.260 No, and shorts even then youtube shorts are taking off more importantly. They didn't win the profitability 01:26:41.900 --> 01:26:47.100 of traditional vaude Like i'm sure tickhawk makes money, but the creators sure as heck don't 01:26:47.740 --> 01:26:55.580 yeah In a press release ohanian summed up the plans for the new site stating kevin and I are here to build something better 01:26:55.820 --> 01:27:04.220 than what social platforms are offering today AI should handle the grunt work in the background while humans focus on what they do best building real connections 01:27:04.540 --> 01:27:08.700 No one dreams of spending their day hunting down spam or playing content police 01:27:08.860 --> 01:27:14.220 They want to create connect and build thriving communities and i'm all in on this chapter 01:27:16.460 --> 01:27:21.660 Interesting so like AI content curation with humans just commenting on it, maybe 01:27:23.180 --> 01:27:27.980 I don't know It sounds like from that description that humans aren't even posting the links 01:27:31.500 --> 01:27:36.460 Um I should handle the grunt work in the background while you I don't know what that means building real connections 01:27:36.940 --> 01:27:40.620 No one dreams of spending their day hunting down spam or playing content police 01:27:40.860 --> 01:27:44.300 So no mod no active moderation. Yeah, I don't know what that means 01:27:44.860 --> 01:27:50.700 I don't know what that means either and because I didn't know what that meant I went to their website and I learned nothing 01:27:51.340 --> 01:27:55.820 at all it is It is completely 01:27:56.140 --> 01:27:58.140 useless 01:27:59.580 --> 01:28:04.860 Uh I mean that makes sense because it's not like they've had time to work on anything yet 01:28:05.260 --> 01:28:07.900 It's just an announcement of an intent to work on something 01:28:08.620 --> 01:28:13.660 No explainer of you know what it is. I don't know they have a little button that every time you click it 01:28:13.660 --> 01:28:17.580 It iterates by one. I mean I'd be down to give it a shot, but I just and it's not a lot 01:28:17.820 --> 01:28:21.660 Oh, there's so much there's so much of why I use reddit 01:28:22.220 --> 01:28:27.500 Is because of what's already there? Not because of what I want to be there in the future 01:28:29.500 --> 01:28:35.500 And that's true of youtube as well Which was another great example you gave of just like a platform with enormous inertia 01:28:36.940 --> 01:28:41.020 Yeah Conceptually, what is the difference between inertia and momentum? 01:28:42.220 --> 01:28:44.460 I guess momentum has to actually have 01:28:45.660 --> 01:28:49.420 um Well momentum 01:28:49.420 --> 01:28:54.780 But inertia is always uh an innate quality quantity. Anyway, it doesn't matter 01:28:56.700 --> 01:29:04.140 Different side same coin Momentum is defined as a tendency of a body to remain in motion 01:29:04.860 --> 01:29:09.980 Inertia is defined as a tendency for a body to oppose the change in its position 01:29:12.540 --> 01:29:16.540 So they're the same thing No 01:29:16.540 --> 01:29:25.020 No I mean they sound like the same value once you calculate in simple words momentum is your force or speed of movement 01:29:25.660 --> 01:29:27.660 And inertia is what keeps you going 01:29:29.420 --> 01:29:31.420 Mm-hmm 01:29:32.460 --> 01:29:35.660 What wouldn't your speed of movement in your mass be what keeps you going? 01:29:35.980 --> 01:29:41.740 No, because if you had an elephant that was stationary, mm-hmm It would have enormous inertia, but no momentum a lot of inertia 01:29:42.460 --> 01:29:44.460 But then if I wanted to 01:29:45.900 --> 01:29:51.740 I guess we could okay, so only if it's completely stationary inertness then it's inertia 01:29:53.420 --> 01:30:01.020 I guess that kind I can kind of get behind that If you had a very tiny thing that was moving very fast it would have a high inertia 01:30:09.020 --> 01:30:13.500 I don't think that's right I'm not going to worry about it. I'm bored. Um 01:30:14.300 --> 01:30:17.500 The best subscription ever just got more affordable 01:30:18.220 --> 01:30:25.180 YouTube premium light On march 5th youtube announced that they are adding a cheaper tier 01:30:25.580 --> 01:30:32.060 To the youtube premium lineup called premium light. It will cost eight dollars a month instead of 14 dollars 01:30:32.140 --> 01:30:40.460 But there are some differences You will not get access to downloading or background play on mobile background play 01:30:41.020 --> 01:30:44.460 Okay YouTube music 01:30:44.460 --> 01:30:49.500 music videos Shorts and the home page will still get ads 01:30:50.860 --> 01:30:53.020 And they also have a footnote saying that 01:30:53.900 --> 01:31:00.380 Most videos are ad-free such as gaming fashion beauty news and more 01:31:01.580 --> 01:31:03.820 So what am I actually getting? 01:31:04.940 --> 01:31:10.700 Well, you get no in-video like mid-roll and pre-roll ads it sounds like 01:31:11.340 --> 01:31:16.380 In most videos, but that does not include music videos 01:31:17.420 --> 01:31:25.260 shorts Or the home page and you don't get youtube music. This actually sounds like a terrible deal and you should just get the regular premium 01:31:25.820 --> 01:31:32.460 I also hate that it's it's Unclear so it feels like they can change it on me without even updating the terms 01:31:32.620 --> 01:31:35.980 Well, this basically sounds like they just can't afford the music licensing 01:31:36.540 --> 01:31:41.340 Because that's why you can't have background play like that's why background play costs because it's instead of spotify 01:31:41.580 --> 01:31:44.700 Right, you can just have youtube music videos playing in the background 01:31:45.260 --> 01:31:50.540 Um, so like I get it But also it just seems like not that compelling a value add because 01:31:51.420 --> 01:31:55.740 I don't know if I know a single adult working person in my life that doesn't have 01:31:56.460 --> 01:32:02.860 A spotify or youtube music or apple music or title or whatever like a music subscription. I really don't think I do 01:32:04.220 --> 01:32:10.860 So if you're gonna have one anyway Then you should just get youtube music because at this price difference of six dollars 01:32:11.180 --> 01:32:14.620 It's basically nothing and if you sign up as a family with some 01:32:15.580 --> 01:32:20.060 family Then honestly the difference in price is even smaller 01:32:20.620 --> 01:32:22.620 Uh to just get the full youtube premium 01:32:27.100 --> 01:32:29.100 Uh next, uh 01:32:32.220 --> 01:32:34.220 Correction for placebos 01:32:36.300 --> 01:32:43.100 Correction for the discussion about placebos on february 14th wandshow. Oh sure. This is pretty sure the skeptics guide featuring 01:32:43.100 --> 01:32:46.700 Yale associate professor and neurology doctor steven novella 01:32:47.900 --> 01:32:54.220 Reacted to our discussion about the placebo effect on the wandshow a couple weeks ago. Dr. novella pointed out a misleading uh, where'd it go? 01:32:55.660 --> 01:33:00.940 Uh a misleading sentence We said about the placebo effect and cancer survival rates 01:33:01.420 --> 01:33:06.300 And we'd like to issue a corrective statement Believe me you'll survive cancer improves your quality of life 01:33:06.300 --> 01:33:09.740 But it hasn't been shown to extend survival in cancer patients 01:33:10.060 --> 01:33:14.220 You can find more information at links down in the chat. Yeah, okay 01:33:14.780 --> 01:33:19.100 We unequivocally do not endorse companies and individuals who use placebo effect to push scant 01:33:19.100 --> 01:33:23.740 Oh, well obviously scam products and earn a profit from each other's unfortunate situations 01:33:24.060 --> 01:33:27.260 You guys know we hate scams. Did people think we did that? I don't know 01:33:27.980 --> 01:33:30.140 Not if they're acting in good faith, but maybe 01:33:31.020 --> 01:33:33.580 Yeah, we encourage you to always contact your health care professional 01:33:34.060 --> 01:33:37.020 Uh, if you have a medical situation also, I'll say this now and 01:33:37.660 --> 01:33:44.220 I don't know if we said this then or not Uh, we're not a medical podcast. We talk for four and a half hours sometimes 01:33:44.220 --> 01:33:47.340 So sometimes we're going to say some stuff about other things in our lives that aren't tech 01:33:48.460 --> 01:33:56.540 but Yeah, maybe go listen to the the Yale doctor guy and and not so much us and something that we do know 01:33:57.020 --> 01:34:02.460 Is that um having a good outlook can absolutely increase patient compliance 01:34:03.020 --> 01:34:06.620 And better patient compliance can absolutely impact outcomes 01:34:07.100 --> 01:34:11.740 No matter what the disease is So, yeah, maybe not directly 01:34:12.380 --> 01:34:17.260 But the main point of our conversation was just that if people maintain a positive outlook 01:34:17.340 --> 01:34:21.100 And if they think that things are working it can have a positive outcome 01:34:22.940 --> 01:34:27.580 The very very specifics my apologies if we were not correct there 01:34:28.380 --> 01:34:32.140 And we were never Obviously 01:34:32.140 --> 01:34:38.860 Never endorsing People selling placebos as real remedies and saying that like that's okay 01:34:39.580 --> 01:34:43.020 I think our main point was just that like 01:34:43.020 --> 01:34:50.540 It's a thing and that's why they get away with it because they sell you a placebo and then it is actually quite likely 01:34:50.620 --> 01:34:53.180 Depending on what ails you that you might feel better 01:34:54.380 --> 01:34:57.500 Um, and that's why it's so hard to nail these guys 01:34:58.460 --> 01:35:05.820 Microsoft is testing free office desktop ads. Sorry apps 01:35:07.020 --> 01:35:12.620 Wow I actually didn't mean to do that, but that was one heck of a Freudian slip. Wow 01:35:13.020 --> 01:35:15.500 Microsoft is testing a free desktop version 01:35:16.060 --> 01:35:20.940 Microsoft 365 When installing the productivity suite formally known as office 01:35:21.420 --> 01:35:27.420 Users that opt to skip signing in with a Microsoft account will be presented with the option to use word excel 01:35:27.580 --> 01:35:31.980 and powerpoint for free Of course, there's a catch or three 01:35:32.220 --> 01:35:39.580 It is ad supported with a persistent ad banner on the right side of the screen and every few hours 01:35:40.620 --> 01:35:44.060 This is great a 15 second video ad will play 01:35:44.620 --> 01:35:53.420 Although at least it can be muted It can only save to one drive and includes up to five gigabytes of storage as part of the free package 01:35:54.220 --> 01:35:57.020 Many features are missing. These are listed on b-bomb 01:35:57.820 --> 01:35:59.820 But the basics are there 01:36:00.940 --> 01:36:07.580 I've been warned b-bomb has lots of ads. Oh, wow. Boy. Do they ever that is a lot of ads my goodness 01:36:08.860 --> 01:36:14.540 Uh, what are the limitations where what parts of this are article and what parts of it are ads? Good lord 01:36:14.540 --> 01:36:19.180 I can earn roblox gift cards How to install 01:36:19.180 --> 01:36:24.300 Free editing features missing. Oh my goodness dictation line spacing 01:36:25.100 --> 01:36:27.740 Okay text box spacing 01:36:28.300 --> 01:36:34.620 Uh pivot charts. Okay pivot table. Oh boy. Okay. So they're quite cut down. Okay. So basically use 01:36:36.060 --> 01:36:38.060 Google's product I guess 01:36:39.180 --> 01:36:44.700 Uh, yeah, yeah, jordan prepared this he goes is this going to result in enough paid subs to be viable? 01:36:45.420 --> 01:36:49.740 Uh, and also asks is this for the seven people that are not aware of google docs? 01:36:50.460 --> 01:36:56.060 It it it Is kind of feeling that way a little bit kind of feeling that way a little bit. Yeah 01:36:57.020 --> 01:37:01.340 Ann M white and Floatplane chat says literally just get Libra office at that point like what are we even 01:37:01.660 --> 01:37:06.220 What are we even talking about here? This is a fun one 01:37:06.780 --> 01:37:11.180 wacky foldables and other stuff at mobile world congress 01:37:12.060 --> 01:37:15.580 Mwc ran this week from march 3rd to march 6th in 01:37:16.380 --> 01:37:21.100 I'm gonna say this wrong barthelona. I think it's you're supposed to do it with a th sound, right? 01:37:21.580 --> 01:37:26.140 I wish they would I wish they would just spell things the way that they're supposed to be said because 01:37:26.620 --> 01:37:28.780 If you're gonna have an anglicized spelling anyway 01:37:30.860 --> 01:37:35.420 Why not in good faith try to spell it in a way that makes it 01:37:36.140 --> 01:37:40.780 spelled like it founds Barthelona, I don't know. I don't think that is 01:37:41.660 --> 01:37:49.340 I think it's just spelled the same way in spanish Which is probably why it sounds different than it's spelled. Well, then give me an anglicized spelling like everything else 01:37:50.940 --> 01:37:55.500 Anyway, we're supposed to rapid fire react to each device 01:37:57.100 --> 01:37:59.820 And give it a one to ten score. All right 01:38:00.300 --> 01:38:05.020 So first up is the Lenovo think book flip ai 01:38:05.660 --> 01:38:09.740 prototype A mega two-in-one 01:38:10.220 --> 01:38:13.980 Oh My gosh 01:38:13.980 --> 01:38:15.980 This is from pc meg.com 01:38:17.500 --> 01:38:23.900 um Whoa, okay, we should decide we should decide what our scale means 01:38:24.460 --> 01:38:27.980 uh So is this out of ten in terms of like 01:38:28.700 --> 01:38:32.540 Would I buy it or would I use it because those 01:38:32.860 --> 01:38:37.900 Definitely are not the same thing in this case like if somebody gave this to me for free 01:38:38.620 --> 01:38:40.860 I feel like I might consider using it 01:38:41.900 --> 01:38:48.060 It looks like a joke It looks like a it looks like it's photoshopped. It looks it looks like a meme 01:38:48.940 --> 01:38:57.260 um Okay The outer display can flip up to become a large vertical display 01:38:57.660 --> 01:39:02.220 So it kind of goes in it looks. Yeah, there you go. There's a there's a better shot of it 01:39:03.500 --> 01:39:07.820 Wow, also, this is like the ugliest hotel room 01:39:08.380 --> 01:39:13.260 um But great job pc mag for making it work. It kind of works 01:39:13.980 --> 01:39:15.980 Luke, what's your rating? 01:39:17.100 --> 01:39:21.740 Uh, so again, sorry, what are what are we doing it based on if we would use it or if we'd buy it? 01:39:23.500 --> 01:39:28.220 You wouldn't buy anything. So let's go with if we buy it. I might buy something. We'll see 01:39:28.700 --> 01:39:34.620 How about if you would use it for work? I use if this was our standard of this laptop. I would 01:39:35.580 --> 01:39:39.020 I would use out of 10 out of 10. I would unfold it. Um 01:39:39.980 --> 01:39:45.260 Would I use it out of 10? I would definitely use it like you wouldn't ask for something else because we could give you something else 01:39:45.900 --> 01:39:50.140 Would you prefer it? I wouldn't 01:39:50.140 --> 01:39:55.820 This is sounding like a six Yeah, I think it might be a six or a seven because I travel with an extra screen 01:39:56.780 --> 01:39:59.500 Okay, and this is just an extra screen, but 01:40:00.380 --> 01:40:03.740 slightly less cool because it's up 01:40:03.740 --> 01:40:05.980 How are you gonna use this on a plane like? 01:40:06.860 --> 01:40:10.540 I just don't think you would do buddy behind you. He's gonna lean their seat back 01:40:11.980 --> 01:40:16.940 I mean, I guess it wouldn't break it though because it's bendable. I think it bends the other way. So it absolutely 01:40:17.580 --> 01:40:23.740 Oh, yeah, right Well, to be fair though, it wouldn't crunch under because it would go all the way to the top of the seat 01:40:24.140 --> 01:40:26.540 You'd have to like pull their hair off of it 01:40:27.900 --> 01:40:31.180 Yeah Yeah, I'd give it a six. I think 01:40:32.620 --> 01:40:34.620 I don't think I can go higher than a four 01:40:35.740 --> 01:40:38.620 I would definitely use it in like hotel rooms and stuff. I would use it 01:40:41.900 --> 01:40:43.900 All right, let's go 01:40:48.460 --> 01:40:53.260 Next up is the Lenovo magic bay dual display concept 01:40:54.700 --> 01:40:59.820 Here we go. This is from digital trends Oh, this looks more like your style luke 01:41:00.540 --> 01:41:06.780 It sure does Two screens or one it's up to you 01:41:08.300 --> 01:41:15.020 The thing that gets me with this stuff is it's really not much harder to just have an external display and a normal laptop 01:41:15.980 --> 01:41:22.860 So external so this uses special external displays that use Lenovo's magic bay connection 01:41:23.260 --> 01:41:28.940 To add either two 13 inch screens or a single vertical eight inch screen 01:41:29.900 --> 01:41:33.740 It uses pogopins and magnets. It's a proprietary connector. So 01:41:35.020 --> 01:41:37.740 You can't just carry it to the next one and I've been using the same 01:41:38.300 --> 01:41:42.620 Uh, I've been using the same external screen for two different laptops so far 01:41:43.580 --> 01:41:48.540 You won't be doing that here. Exactly. So like the buying of this very low 01:41:49.180 --> 01:41:54.540 Um, the using of this at least one of the external displays probably like a seven 01:41:54.860 --> 01:42:00.460 Very how much do you think that drives the design of these products because if I'm a Lenovo and I'm targeting businesses 01:42:00.940 --> 01:42:04.860 Do I care at all if luke the individual would buy this? 01:42:05.260 --> 01:42:10.940 Maybe not because I don't need to buy you care a lot that you might get lock in to the it team 01:42:11.340 --> 01:42:16.460 Yeah, because of this because luke's company bought it for him that you have and luke likes it 01:42:17.020 --> 01:42:20.940 And we'll complain to it if he doesn't get one again or whatever, right? 01:42:21.580 --> 01:42:25.740 Or if the new laptop doesn't have those screens Oh boy 01:42:25.740 --> 01:42:29.180 Lenovo yoga solar pc concept 01:42:30.460 --> 01:42:36.620 solar It's a solar pc con solar panels on the lid 01:42:38.140 --> 01:42:43.340 um Oh, okay. How well do they work when they have? 01:42:44.220 --> 01:42:52.460 horrible Line of sight they claim or it's covered in stickers. They claim that even in low light conditions 01:42:53.580 --> 01:42:58.220 The panel can generate enough power to sustain the battery charge when the pc is idle 01:42:58.780 --> 01:43:01.660 They also claim that with enough direct sunlight 01:43:02.220 --> 01:43:06.540 20 minutes of exposure can power up to one hour of video playback 01:43:07.180 --> 01:43:10.140 With a long disclaimer on this claim 01:43:14.700 --> 01:43:21.420 What do you think this feels like uh, this feels like a three to me a two like 01:43:23.100 --> 01:43:29.900 They know battery banks exist, right? Like if I wanted to carry like solar panels, they're gonna add weight 01:43:30.460 --> 01:43:34.140 To this thing. I have to carry them around all the time and i'm gonna use them 01:43:34.780 --> 01:43:39.500 Sometimes how often do you like use it outside involved with it also adds more weight? 01:43:40.220 --> 01:43:43.900 Uh, often you use it outside is a big question often use it outside 01:43:44.460 --> 01:43:51.340 Indirect line of sight of the sun when you're not like putting it so far folded back that it's not going to see the sun at all anyways 01:43:51.820 --> 01:43:53.820 Yeah, exactly. Um 01:43:56.140 --> 01:44:03.660 And then you can't put stickers on the back like Dan said Okay, I don't know if that's a major consideration, but that matters a lot in my field Linus. Okay 01:44:04.380 --> 01:44:08.780 How will they know I use arch this needs to be taken seriously. I'm sorry. I'm sorry 01:44:09.740 --> 01:44:11.980 Have you ever been have you ever been to an it conference? 01:44:13.180 --> 01:44:15.580 Everyone's the back of their laptops are covered in stickers 01:44:16.940 --> 01:44:19.260 I'm sorry. I brought it up see the chat 01:44:20.780 --> 01:44:27.740 You also sell stickers Oh goodness more from Lenovo this time from tom's hardware 01:44:29.900 --> 01:44:33.740 A USB-C connected 32 tops npu 01:44:34.460 --> 01:44:41.500 That's right my friends Instead of purchasing an ai laptop you could get a regular laptop 01:44:42.460 --> 01:44:44.460 and add ai 01:44:46.220 --> 01:44:48.220 By USB-C 01:44:50.380 --> 01:44:52.380 I think this is a zero for me 01:44:59.420 --> 01:45:07.660 Wow At least for my laptop like if I had like um, like I think I actually have a similar little usb ai dongle in my server right now 01:45:07.740 --> 01:45:11.980 because we're using it for training for a um 01:45:12.700 --> 01:45:18.380 Like a machine vision project or something like that, but in terms of the pitch of this it's Thunderbolt. Oh my god 01:45:18.940 --> 01:45:24.380 Okay, so you're not plugging into anything that matters. Oh, what's gonna have thunderbolts? Okay, it's too anemic 01:45:25.500 --> 01:45:27.980 32 tops not enough for you, huh? Yeah. Yeah 01:45:28.860 --> 01:45:36.620 All right. Okay. Here we go Infinix zero series mini trifold concept 01:45:37.660 --> 01:45:42.060 This is on tech radar Da da da da da 01:45:42.700 --> 01:45:46.220 No Really just straight up. No 01:45:47.020 --> 01:45:50.300 No You're not even gonna give me a number 01:45:50.860 --> 01:45:55.900 zero Zero oh man. This is like a four maybe a maybe a one 01:45:56.060 --> 01:46:01.340 I could do this being like you're gonna deal with the glee of unfolding this the whole way because it's not just a flip 01:46:01.500 --> 01:46:06.300 It's not one movement. You have to I think you have to like pull the thing apart. It looks super annoying 01:46:06.860 --> 01:46:11.500 But look I could clip it to my backpack 01:46:11.740 --> 01:46:13.740 From lttstore.com 01:46:14.860 --> 01:46:19.420 Yeah, no, right Yeah, look, I'm just saying I could 01:46:20.460 --> 01:46:27.180 I'm treating a five like a neutral. Okay So I I'm like below neutral like I don't want it. I don't want it 01:46:28.780 --> 01:46:30.780 I would actively dislike this 01:46:32.060 --> 01:46:37.740 If I was given a new one of these I would use my my old pixel that I don't like over it 01:46:38.460 --> 01:46:43.020 All right next it just looks very annoying to use most of the time when I'm looking something on my phone 01:46:43.260 --> 01:46:47.580 I want it fast and then I want to put the phone away I don't want to just like 01:46:47.580 --> 01:46:51.740 Oh, let me let me unfold this twice so I can get a full actual phone 01:46:51.820 --> 01:46:54.940 And then go through and check things and then fold it two more times to put it back down 01:46:54.940 --> 01:47:01.020 And then it's a massive brick in my pocket and I can put it away. That's so annoying. I don't okay this time from the verge 01:47:02.220 --> 01:47:08.860 Infinix Zero series. Oh, we shoot so no Infinix solar energy reserving technology 01:47:09.420 --> 01:47:16.140 Uses perovskite Solar cells which are thinner and cheaper than traditional silicon solar cells 01:47:16.940 --> 01:47:21.180 um Its current iteration was able to deliver two watts of charging 01:47:22.300 --> 01:47:24.940 Being able to just like huck your phone onto 01:47:25.900 --> 01:47:30.780 Like a like a car mount or something and get charged with the sun coming through the dash 01:47:30.780 --> 01:47:35.660 I mean, I yeah, I could see that be kind of useful while you don't use magsafe and just plug in a cable. I don't know but um 01:47:36.780 --> 01:47:40.860 That's something It's cool if you're 01:47:41.500 --> 01:47:45.740 Outside somewhere and you put your phone face down on a table and it charges it 01:47:46.380 --> 01:47:53.020 I think it's pretty sweet Yeah, I'd be into this mentioned overheating problems. I would be interested to see. Oh, yeah 01:47:53.660 --> 01:47:59.580 How that goes? All right next up. I like it though. Whoa. Shall me buds five pro 01:48:00.860 --> 01:48:04.780 Now they might look like just regular, you know 01:48:05.900 --> 01:48:10.860 AirPods clones But they can stream music over wi-fi 01:48:11.100 --> 01:48:18.460 They utilize qualcom's expanded personal area network to provide audio at up to 96 kilohertz 24 bit 01:48:19.740 --> 01:48:26.220 Up to 4.2 megabit per second exceeding bluetooth bandwidth and if wi-fi is not available they switch back to bluetooth mode 01:48:27.020 --> 01:48:29.020 That's pretty cool. They look bulky though 01:48:32.060 --> 01:48:35.340 I don't care 01:48:35.340 --> 01:48:39.180 Okay, as a dub said on flow plane no solar panels on them two out of ten 01:48:41.820 --> 01:48:46.460 Okay I just like I don't know 01:48:48.220 --> 01:48:53.900 If I'm at home, it's not like I don't have my phone on me if I'm not at home. I'm pretty much not using wi-fi 01:48:56.460 --> 01:49:00.380 I don't know do they use wi-fi direct though because if they could do that then that's cool 01:49:00.620 --> 01:49:03.900 I think it means that they're using wi-fi to the phone 01:49:04.940 --> 01:49:09.900 Yeah, I think so. I think that's what it means not all devices handle wi-fi to multiple 01:49:10.620 --> 01:49:19.980 Points very well though Like I I realized using the mac as my daily driver that you can't internet connections share your wi-fi connection on this 01:49:20.060 --> 01:49:27.500 So I use that feature on Windows for flights I'll buy one in flight pass and then I'll share it with everyone that i'm with or with my phone 01:49:27.820 --> 01:49:30.940 Like with my multiple devices and I can't do that on the mac 01:49:31.900 --> 01:49:36.780 Which kind of blows like it can share it can internet connection share if you plug in a wired connection 01:49:36.780 --> 01:49:43.260 And then you share over wi-fi it can do that, but it can't wi-fi share its wi-fi connection as far as I can tell 01:49:44.540 --> 01:49:48.540 Here's another one This is 01:49:48.540 --> 01:49:54.780 Wait, wait, where is it? Ah, here we go. Yes the samsung flex gaming concept 01:49:57.100 --> 01:50:00.940 Hold on someone's hold on someone says yes, you can over bluetooth 01:50:02.060 --> 01:50:05.660 Well, what am I connecting to it via bluetooth? 01:50:07.740 --> 01:50:10.700 Might be able to with a usb wi-fi that yeah, I'm not doing that 01:50:13.900 --> 01:50:15.900 Bluetooth wi-fi sharing 01:50:17.260 --> 01:50:24.940 Man I I swear I googled this and I did not find it and I went into I had to like go deep into the settings and enable 01:50:25.660 --> 01:50:29.100 internet connection sharing in some some submenu somewhere 01:50:29.580 --> 01:50:37.340 And then it just didn't offer me the option Well, what I will say then at the very least is it's much easier in Windows. You just click a button 01:50:37.900 --> 01:50:40.140 Just like you would on your phone or whatever 01:50:41.420 --> 01:50:45.100 Okay, so looking at this next device. Have you have you brought it up yet? There you go 01:50:45.740 --> 01:50:51.100 Looking at this next device It looks like the thumbsticks have to go into the holes on the other side 01:50:51.580 --> 01:50:54.780 and the ab x y and left right up down 01:50:55.500 --> 01:50:59.820 are like the slanted sides of the holes, which is 01:51:00.460 --> 01:51:06.540 Horrible. Yeah, this is just a concept. This is not a real product. It's a cool idea. It's a cool concept 01:51:08.300 --> 01:51:12.060 I don't want to use the arrow keys or ab x y at all ever 01:51:13.020 --> 01:51:15.820 but It's a cool concept 01:51:18.700 --> 01:51:23.260 So you have to thumb the holes Yeah, I think I think you like put your thumb in the hole and then have to like 01:51:23.740 --> 01:51:27.820 Hit the side of the button Yeah, I'm not into that at all 01:51:28.780 --> 01:51:33.180 I don't think so. Yeah, it might end up being okay, but I don't think I would like it 01:51:33.740 --> 01:51:38.620 Yeah, I think I would dislike it so much that I would not use it. I wouldn't buy it 01:51:39.020 --> 01:51:41.900 However, if you could if you could give me something where like 01:51:42.380 --> 01:51:46.540 The thumbsticks or like a pop it or something and I can like push them in and I can just fold it flat 01:51:46.540 --> 01:51:49.660 And have decent buttons or something I I could I could maybe get into that 01:51:49.980 --> 01:51:56.540 I would like to be able to fold my My handheld gaming device because I do get sketched out about them when traveling 01:51:56.860 --> 01:51:59.660 And if I could avoid having like a big carrying case for it 01:52:01.020 --> 01:52:05.580 Um And could just fold it and then the like if I had a nice case on the back of it 01:52:06.140 --> 01:52:10.860 That'd be pretty sick 80 dub and Floatplane chat says now I can rage quit like I'm hanging up on my boss 01:52:12.140 --> 01:52:22.140 Yeah, sweet. I love it Okay, our last one is the samsung trifold smartphone concept called the asymmetric flip 01:52:22.620 --> 01:52:25.180 for now similar to the galaxy z flip 01:52:26.140 --> 01:52:28.140 But with two fold points 01:52:30.220 --> 01:52:34.060 Like Why oh god 01:52:34.780 --> 01:52:39.340 Why hmm Okay 01:52:40.380 --> 01:52:42.380 Why yeah, well, that's 01:52:43.820 --> 01:52:46.460 Something that someone why not just fold it in half 01:52:47.500 --> 01:52:53.420 I mean it's a concept. These are concepts and like concept cars they're gonna include things that 01:52:54.220 --> 01:52:59.020 Don't make it to market and that's the things we looked at. That's all of them 01:53:00.060 --> 01:53:03.820 Cool. Um nice last week tech radar said 01:53:06.860 --> 01:53:12.860 Built or published an article titled built versus bought why pre-built systems are always 01:53:13.420 --> 01:53:21.100 superior to custom gaming PCs Uh, it starts by giving some background on zack as someone who loves to build rigs and even encourages people to keep building them 01:53:21.420 --> 01:53:25.260 before immediately 180 and saying the following 01:53:25.660 --> 01:53:32.060 The honest truth is that unless you're an it god who spent years pruning over every little detail of system building with 01:53:32.220 --> 01:53:35.100 Intimate knowledge of all the latest and greatest hardware and its caveats 01:53:36.140 --> 01:53:42.380 You're just not going to be able to compete with a consummate professional whose day job it is is to build gaming PCs 01:53:42.860 --> 01:53:47.180 It's like comparing your dad's famous chili cone carring recipe to gordon ramsey's 01:53:47.820 --> 01:53:51.420 The article does highlight some real issues from building your own pc 01:53:51.900 --> 01:53:56.300 such as that it can be tough to get stock of the latest and greatest if that's what you're after especially because 01:53:56.860 --> 01:54:01.900 SIs can often have deals that guarantee them better stock on those parts, although as we discussed earlier, not always 01:54:02.700 --> 01:54:06.700 It also talks about qc from system integration integrators, which yes 01:54:07.180 --> 01:54:10.860 Can be a big advantage to making sure that your computer arrives in working conditions 01:54:11.500 --> 01:54:15.260 But if you've ever seen our secret shopper series, you'll know that qc can miss things 01:54:15.740 --> 01:54:21.580 Including things that zack highlights that you won't have to worry about like BIOS updates cable management cooling and overclocking 01:54:22.460 --> 01:54:25.340 There is one more comparison at the end of the article and I quote 01:54:26.140 --> 01:54:31.100 It's like your car, right You're always going to get the folk who go around and build their own tweak the ones 01:54:31.100 --> 01:54:34.700 They've got and get ridiculous horsepower out of an engine in ways that shouldn't be possible 01:54:35.100 --> 01:54:39.340 Usually for some ridiculous investment of time or some of money along the way 01:54:39.740 --> 01:54:44.540 Or alternatively you could save the drama and just buy a 400 horsepower ev or whatever your engine of choice is 01:54:44.940 --> 01:54:49.180 Straight off the shop floor with few issues of any and do 100 miles per hour in less than five seconds 01:54:49.820 --> 01:54:53.180 and quote Elijah puts in here 01:54:53.180 --> 01:54:58.300 I found this quote funny because Jake t and I looked and there's no such thing as a 400 horsepower ev that can do that 01:54:59.340 --> 01:55:03.740 um Our discussion question here is 01:55:04.460 --> 01:55:07.500 As easy as it is to see the headline and possibly get upset 01:55:08.220 --> 01:55:12.300 Can you think of any other reasons that pre-builds are better? 01:55:14.700 --> 01:55:18.140 I would say the main one for me comes down to support after the fact 01:55:18.460 --> 01:55:21.980 Like if their support sucks, then I see no reason to buy pre-built whatsoever 01:55:21.980 --> 01:55:29.740 But if their support is good or offers Um types of support that you need like if you're buying it as a business and you need on site service, um 01:55:30.380 --> 01:55:32.540 You know, I could see a pre-built making sense for that 01:55:34.140 --> 01:55:39.340 Um, otherwise, I don't know man. I do think things can be very confusing and we do rail against 01:55:39.340 --> 01:55:45.100 sort of the the misleading naming schemes that manufacturers use and um 01:55:46.620 --> 01:55:50.300 The way that specs get obfuscated more and more and more pre-builds 01:55:51.340 --> 01:55:57.740 But yeah, that's the thing is I think I don't see the difference between talking to an si and asking them to advise me 01:55:58.300 --> 01:56:05.580 On buying a pre-built pc or talking to a sales rep at a computer part store and asking them to advise me on building a computer and honestly 01:56:07.180 --> 01:56:11.260 I think comparing um, you know 01:56:11.420 --> 01:56:15.100 As someone who builds computers to gordon ramsey 01:56:16.140 --> 01:56:19.580 is like kind of ridiculous 01:56:19.740 --> 01:56:25.820 Yeah Maybe maybe you're comparing it to like the gordon ramsey restaurant in the airport 01:56:29.980 --> 01:56:36.700 Building computers like it's not as easy as some people make it out to be if you have never done it or you don't do it on the regular but 01:56:37.660 --> 01:56:42.780 It isn't rocket science and I've gotten the kick out of like si's over the years that will 01:56:43.340 --> 01:56:45.740 introduce their like their system builders as like 01:56:46.460 --> 01:56:50.540 pc engineers or like system 01:56:50.540 --> 01:56:55.500 system building engineers or whatever like here in canada engineer is a protected term you actually have to like 01:56:55.980 --> 01:57:00.220 Have an education up to a standard to call yourself an engineer 01:57:00.620 --> 01:57:03.580 But in other places it's not necessarily the case and there is 01:57:04.220 --> 01:57:10.220 Nothing engineer about configuring a computer and putting it together. That's not engineering 01:57:10.940 --> 01:57:16.380 um So yeah, it can be a little bit challenging when you're just getting your feet wet 01:57:16.460 --> 01:57:21.900 But no, I don't think I can agree with this headline and I I and yeah, it's not engineering 01:57:22.380 --> 01:57:26.700 I think it's time for us to move on to after dark because I have a place that I need to be that I kind of 01:57:27.340 --> 01:57:32.460 Let get away from me seven minutes time wise. So uh, what what do we got in the in the 01:57:32.780 --> 01:57:36.460 Curated birch messages. Oh Dan didn't curate too many this week. So 01:57:37.660 --> 01:57:43.820 Let's go good work Yeah, we had a a lighter week than last week. I'll uh, I'll put it that way 01:57:44.300 --> 01:57:47.020 Although I think every week is light compared to last week 01:57:50.620 --> 01:57:52.620 All right, I have to do the magenta 01:57:54.300 --> 01:57:58.460 Uh, let's see. What do we got? What do we got? Um, to Linus 01:57:59.180 --> 01:58:07.420 What's the deal with not reviewing 12 gig cards on 4k developers should be able to add uncompressed textures without meaning 01:58:07.980 --> 01:58:11.660 12 gigs is not enough for 4k. I play at 12 gigs and it looks great 01:58:19.660 --> 01:58:26.140 I can't hear I can't he's muted. He's sorry. Um, we discussed this in our 90 70 and 90 70 x t review 01:58:26.620 --> 01:58:29.980 And I forget what the game was was it last of us or 01:58:31.740 --> 01:58:35.340 Crud I really don't remember but basically we we 01:58:36.460 --> 01:58:39.980 highlighted some lag spikes that we were getting on the 01:58:41.180 --> 01:58:48.060 The rtx 50 70 the 12 gig card that were not present on any of our 16 gig cards 01:58:49.740 --> 01:58:52.940 Regardless of how much raw horsepower they had 01:58:53.420 --> 01:58:56.860 And so for us the fact that that's a problem 01:58:57.660 --> 01:59:01.660 right now today 01:59:03.580 --> 01:59:05.580 Indicates to us that 01:59:06.780 --> 01:59:14.380 The these these cards are not in the in the midterm even going to be suitable for 4k AAA gaming 01:59:14.860 --> 01:59:19.500 And you know if we're talking about running league of legends at 4k or whatever then yeah, sure 01:59:19.660 --> 01:59:23.260 But was it really a question if you're buying a 12 gig card 01:59:23.820 --> 01:59:34.620 If league of legends was going to run probably not So you know for us the point of a review is not necessarily to show you exactly what FPS every game under the sun will run at 01:59:34.620 --> 01:59:38.940 That's not what we're trying to achieve. What we are trying to achieve is to 01:59:40.060 --> 01:59:43.900 contextualize The relative performance of these cards 01:59:44.620 --> 01:59:47.900 And their relative price so you can make an informed decision 01:59:48.780 --> 01:59:53.020 It's not the be all and end all if you want to know how that card runs an exact game 01:59:53.020 --> 01:59:56.860 There's lots of channels out there that will upload like gameplay footage with FPS counters 01:59:57.100 --> 02:00:00.140 Or there's lots of other reviewers out there that will have a different test suite 02:00:00.300 --> 02:00:03.180 And you should absolutely go out and seek out those additional resources 02:00:03.500 --> 02:00:09.100 We're just trying to give you the thousand foot view of how these cards compete with each other and in general 02:00:09.180 --> 02:00:12.300 No, I don't think that moving forward. We can recommend 02:00:12.940 --> 02:00:15.260 12 gig cards for 4k gaming 02:00:16.220 --> 02:00:21.980 My guys wondering what your favorite tape-to-tape characters and perks are I'm hooked on the game 02:00:22.780 --> 02:00:27.100 Oh, um I had oh dude. I had one run that I was using 02:00:27.820 --> 02:00:29.820 Gawain Garetsky 02:00:31.500 --> 02:00:36.780 Yeah, he's this knight character that levels up as you make your way through the different bosses 02:00:37.420 --> 02:00:42.780 And uh, we basically put every perk on him so that as he got bigger and slower 02:00:43.260 --> 02:00:46.380 He was still fast and he was a were you in that run luke? 02:00:47.180 --> 02:00:51.420 Yeah, you were he was Comically tanky 02:00:51.420 --> 02:00:54.460 Um, and then he also has the headshot redirect ability 02:00:54.460 --> 02:01:02.300 Which is by far the most broken ability in the game Because you just you slap shot to one of your allies and they just like 02:01:02.940 --> 02:01:05.500 Header like in soccer they header the puck into the net 02:01:05.980 --> 02:01:09.900 And so you can just be racing up the wing have one of your allies go up the other wing 02:01:10.380 --> 02:01:18.140 He was completely tanky. No one could even touch him We had the body check while while skating with the puck ability and I think we had the body armor on him 02:01:18.140 --> 02:01:23.980 So if anyone even tried to Check him, they would get knocked over so I could just basically charge up the ice 02:01:24.540 --> 02:01:28.860 Whack it off of luke's head. What do we get like 20 20 goals on the final boss? 02:01:28.860 --> 02:01:35.900 We got 12 goals in the first period Yeah, final boss. Yeah, it was not even over 20. It was not even close 02:01:36.860 --> 02:01:42.140 That that's the most broken run that we've done so far. I think yeah, yeah 02:01:42.940 --> 02:01:46.700 I have a super broken run that I'm in the middle of right now, and I'm not finishing it on my own 02:01:46.780 --> 02:01:50.540 I'm just on the first world, but dude. It is completely broken 02:01:50.620 --> 02:01:55.500 I fossilized star for plus 20 speed on all my bench warmers. I got um 02:01:56.140 --> 02:01:58.620 Gross serum growth serum. So everyone's big 02:01:59.260 --> 02:02:04.060 And I got like a couple other things basically my bench warmers all have superstar stats 02:02:05.020 --> 02:02:08.860 It's the team is cracked It's gonna be it's gonna be a great run 02:02:08.860 --> 02:02:14.460 So I was gonna wait till they some humans can come and help me finish it because I bet I think I think it's a record breaking run 02:02:15.420 --> 02:02:19.980 nice I really like researching pc parts and building pcs 02:02:19.980 --> 02:02:26.380 So I take every opportunity to build a pc for a family member Linus. Do you still enjoy building pcs for yourself? 02:02:27.820 --> 02:02:31.100 I enjoy it as long as I'm doing something different 02:02:31.580 --> 02:02:34.140 I don't really like doing the same thing over and over again 02:02:34.940 --> 02:02:36.940 um nice 02:02:38.140 --> 02:02:43.500 So probably I think I probably had the most fun building a pc then I've had in 02:02:45.260 --> 02:02:47.660 Definitely weeks probably months 02:02:48.380 --> 02:02:53.660 Working on the machine that's on the other side of that wall over there. I'm so excited for that video. Oh, dude 02:02:55.580 --> 02:03:02.300 Yeah, it's very different I don't know what was anything that we've done in a while. I don't know if it's practical 02:03:02.620 --> 02:03:09.740 But it's so cool. It's a Kickstarter project that took eight years to finally be delivered and it's so sick 02:03:09.820 --> 02:03:19.340 We got one. It looks absolutely Nothing like what they promised in their original Kickstarter. It is so much better and I'm I'm so excited 02:03:19.740 --> 02:03:23.660 I'm so excited and and yeah, I had a blast alex and I built it together 02:03:24.060 --> 02:03:29.500 And it was so much fun. And so yeah, I love I still love building pcs, but I don't really 02:03:30.780 --> 02:03:35.740 I don't really love just like You know upgrading my motherboard 02:03:36.780 --> 02:03:42.220 Like I kind of get locked into like trouble troubleshooting. I would say I still maybe enjoy more than just like building a pc 02:03:42.540 --> 02:03:44.860 I like I like problem solving free dopamine 02:03:46.540 --> 02:03:50.140 Hello, lld a question for luke. It looks like he's leaving so maybe not 02:03:50.620 --> 02:03:55.020 No, no, no, I'm here. Okay. Uh, where is a place you want to check out that you've never been to? 02:03:55.260 --> 02:03:58.460 We live in flathead valley in montana. Please come check us out 02:04:00.300 --> 02:04:07.420 Flathead valley isn't montana what they call a um, wonderful state that everyone visits 02:04:09.420 --> 02:04:13.420 Is a region no flathead valley looks amazing stunning natural beauty 02:04:14.220 --> 02:04:19.260 Wow pictures look amazing. This place looks amazing. Look at this 02:04:21.020 --> 02:04:25.820 Oh my goodness. I was like, why is there a picture of Dan in my good image results? 02:04:26.140 --> 02:04:30.380 And then I moved it Look at the third picture in the results 02:04:32.620 --> 02:04:34.620 That's incredible man 02:04:35.900 --> 02:04:40.860 Steve j3d says montana is our canada. Yeah, okay that checks out 02:04:41.740 --> 02:04:45.180 That's gorgeous. I would like it there. That's gorgeous 02:04:45.980 --> 02:04:49.660 I don't actually uh, I don't have any north american travel 02:04:50.380 --> 02:04:53.260 Um booked over the next little bit here 02:04:55.980 --> 02:04:59.500 So we'll see how we'll see we'll see but it looks beautiful 02:05:00.220 --> 02:05:04.220 Looks really beautiful. I've never been to a bamf. I'd really like to go to bamf. Um 02:05:05.660 --> 02:05:10.540 That'd be pretty sweet. There's a bunch of aging countries that have been to that would be awesome 02:05:11.420 --> 02:05:19.900 Um I was In iceland for like a very extended layover. I would like to actually go there for real 02:05:20.700 --> 02:05:24.700 um I also want to go to like some 02:05:26.380 --> 02:05:31.660 Less common destination countries though like I'd like to go to greenland. I'd like to go to 02:05:32.380 --> 02:05:35.100 Some likes. Yeah, you mean america common areas 02:05:35.980 --> 02:05:43.900 Oh If it becomes that maybe not os is on my list, uh, I really really sick never been there need to go to os 02:05:45.020 --> 02:05:49.340 Yeah, I want to go scuba diving in australia. That's that's the next thing I actually want to do 02:05:51.020 --> 02:05:55.260 That's a sad thing to hear Yeah, I'm just saying though 02:05:55.980 --> 02:06:01.580 Last one awesome. Yeah Last one I got for you. People call it os don't they? Yeah, don't they? 02:06:01.740 --> 02:06:06.140 They do some people in the comments were confused. Oh, yeah, you're you're not wrong. I mean australia 02:06:06.860 --> 02:06:14.220 Yeah, yeah, yes Last one. Hey, lld line. If you've noted you're a fan of final fantasy tactics 02:06:14.460 --> 02:06:21.900 Have you tried any of the mods or total conversions for the game? I'd recommend final fantasy tactics 1.3. Thanks for all the cool vids 02:06:23.660 --> 02:06:28.140 Did I try one? No, I try to I try to final fantasy six mod that I really enjoyed 02:06:28.620 --> 02:06:33.900 That I actually think you might have enjoyed better than the pixel remaster. I I'm honestly I'm kind of over the pixel remaster. Um 02:06:34.860 --> 02:06:42.540 No, but I burned on it. I played it a little bit more too But like I was really into it when I first got into the game and it's it feels like it tapers off pretty hard 02:06:42.620 --> 02:06:44.780 Would you like me to explain why? 02:06:45.820 --> 02:06:50.940 Yes, yeah, the game was supposed to end on the floating continent 02:06:53.580 --> 02:06:59.820 And then they like Realized that they had more room on the cart. This is what I've heard. This is what I've heard 02:07:00.460 --> 02:07:05.020 They like realized that they had more room on the cart and that they 02:07:06.060 --> 02:07:09.580 Like had more time in budget and they like 02:07:09.580 --> 02:07:18.220 Made another like half of the game That honestly makes a lot of sense because it feels like there's a pretty notable quality shift right around that time 02:07:19.020 --> 02:07:22.140 Because I was I was like genuinely like really into it for a while 02:07:22.700 --> 02:07:27.980 Um, and then it's it's just it feels like it's kind of over and I'm at that point 02:07:27.980 --> 02:07:32.300 So at this point, it's a little bit of a slog. I'll finish it, but it's a it's a little bit of a slog 02:07:32.620 --> 02:07:37.420 But I the yeah the first let's call it first half because I didn't know how far in I was in the world of balance 02:07:38.220 --> 02:07:40.620 Let's call it the first half the world of balance is what it's called 02:07:41.500 --> 02:07:47.100 Was fantastic. It is super good super super good like a worth just playing that even 02:07:47.660 --> 02:07:52.620 Even if you're not going to play the whole thing. Yeah, you could just pretend the game ends there and honestly you get you get most of it 02:07:53.340 --> 02:07:59.580 Yeah Yeah, I should probably try a total conversion for final fantasy tactics or like a cool mod 02:08:00.060 --> 02:08:03.980 Uh, man, I feel like I I feel like I did try a mod at some point 02:08:05.580 --> 02:08:10.060 Like this it rings such a bell for me 02:08:12.380 --> 02:08:16.620 Thank you for that Ha 02:08:22.060 --> 02:08:26.300 I missed one at the front so now I'm like jumping at it for me at this point though 02:08:26.780 --> 02:08:34.620 I think a big part of what I love about. Oh, no, I did. I tried war of the lions 1.3. That's like a different mod or something 02:08:35.420 --> 02:08:40.220 Uh, or wait, no original project changes and content unique features. Okay. No, I don't know 02:08:40.300 --> 02:08:43.580 I don't know I feel like I tried to try something at some point, but maybe I didn't get into it 02:08:43.580 --> 02:08:52.140 But yeah, I I'd like to try something but For me going back to Final Fantasy Tactics a big part of it and honestly just the familiarity at this point like I if I was gonna 02:08:53.100 --> 02:08:56.620 Dive into a new game. There's so many other games that 02:08:57.340 --> 02:09:02.620 I feel like I should play first like what's that other uh, what's that tactics series that got 02:09:03.420 --> 02:09:07.100 So many games and it's supposed to be so good. Um 02:09:08.220 --> 02:09:17.340 Oh, no, it's for pc Uh games like games like this. Oh, no, this is terrible. I feel so bad. I think it's a western game 02:09:18.060 --> 02:09:23.260 Someone help me. No, not fire emblem XCOM. That's the one. Yeah, like I've never played an XCOM game 02:09:24.300 --> 02:09:29.900 Like how can I say I was sick? How can I say I'm a fan of the genre if I've never played an XCOM game? 02:09:29.980 --> 02:09:33.660 Like that's ridiculous. So if I'm gonna jump into a new game, I should probably like 02:09:34.220 --> 02:09:41.100 Play something I've never played before rather than a mod Yeah, people like it's different, but it's good. Yeah, exactly exactly 02:09:44.620 --> 02:09:48.220 XCOM is fun. I was 99% is a miss is real with that series 02:09:48.220 --> 02:09:54.140 I mean, yeah, you're gonna get that with any kind of tactics game and it it's always at the worst possible moment 02:09:54.220 --> 02:10:00.220 That's why Dude anytime an ability is like it hits super hard, but low percentage. I'm like 02:10:00.700 --> 02:10:08.380 F*** it. You're on the bench. You are seeing zero combat. I literally will not take anything that is not a guaranteed hit 02:10:08.860 --> 02:10:11.900 Like I think my first couple playthroughs of Final Fantasy Tactics 02:10:12.220 --> 02:10:18.700 I didn't even figure out that the archer like has evolutions because I literally just never used them because they missed so much 02:10:18.700 --> 02:10:20.780 It was like forget it. You're done. You're out 02:10:22.140 --> 02:10:26.780 Enemy unknown. I loved enemy unknown. I played it on I think it's called iron man where there's like permadeath 02:10:26.780 --> 02:10:33.420 And you you only have one save like you can't go back ever and I I got to the very end of the game 02:10:34.060 --> 02:10:37.660 and if I remember correctly it's like 02:10:37.660 --> 02:10:42.220 I had beat the actually challenging part. I just needed to go into like one more room and the game was just gonna end 02:10:42.860 --> 02:10:45.740 Um, but it glitched and I couldn't get through the wall 02:10:46.060 --> 02:10:49.980 So I had like beat the game, but I couldn't see the ending so I had beat the game 02:10:49.980 --> 02:10:51.980 But had to like youtube the ending 02:10:53.100 --> 02:10:55.100 It was so disappointing 02:10:57.260 --> 02:11:01.180 I youtube the ending of phantasy and I still feel icky about it, but 02:11:02.220 --> 02:11:07.020 The final boss was just so tedious and such a slog like I made it through the first stage of it 02:11:07.820 --> 02:11:10.700 And then I googled it and apparently there's two 02:11:11.420 --> 02:11:15.340 more Like evolutions of the final boss and I'm just like forget this 02:11:16.060 --> 02:11:21.500 Forget this. I'm done. That's good enough speaking of forget this. Do you need to go? I do so I'll see you again next week 02:11:21.740 --> 02:11:26.060 Same bad time same bad channel Bye 02:11:27.020 --> 02:11:29.020 Okay, I'm leaving 02:11:31.900 --> 02:11:33.900 Bye 02:11:38.380 --> 02:11:45.760 That Linus is leaving. Okay. Yeah, I'm but I'm good. I'm I'm good. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Goodbye 02:11:52.780 --> 02:11:55.260 I'm alone I'm alone 02:11:56.780 --> 02:11:58.780 I'm alone