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Hello, oh Right we're live up. Hi everyone

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That is quite the setup you've got there for how professional everything, but you looks your lighting and camera situation is ass

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So that's cool, I mean is it not very good on my end

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Okay Cool, I mean the lighting is not that great, but I also didn't necessarily turn the best lighting on

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Neat and the camera is just a webcam, but it looks a lot better than what I'm seeing come back at me through the stream

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Yeah, no you look like ass Yeah, like two cheeks and a starfish and deal with our fish. I will deal with it

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We've got a pretty sick echo going on there. Yeah, sorry. That's coming through your laptop

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Why is there a poop stain on Linus's tongue?

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Huh?

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Don't see that you accidentally licked my pop filter and it is nasty

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It is oh man

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What man we got to clean this thing good gravy

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Buh eat over it. I don't even know what you're talking about

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It's like probably old crumbs yours is no better, sir

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In fact, if anything yours is kind of gross, sir

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Yeah, it's the it's the liquids that have hit it that are the problem

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He spits when he talks he f***s anything that walks

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As long as he gives it chicken first

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Pay my dues

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Okay, are we like are we we're probably gonna have to start the show pretty quick without much of a pre-stream today

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Yeah, I think so. I Think we're good to go Luke moved slightly. So I'm just gonna readjust him. I

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Know I like I'll be here. You'll be there. Okay. I'll be here. I'm just I'm doing something. That's all

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Okay, that should be about that I think

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So we just get some more levels for you Luke, I think it's sounding good

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Hello testing one two three four. Wow something happened that matters. I think your

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Mike is turning itself down. Could you check to make sure that it's?

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No, no, dude, this isn't my setup. Okay idea and I need you to go to the sound panel

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Broadcast and see what your mic level is it

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He doesn't even have NVIDIA broadcast. No, no, that's fine. You sound fine

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Okay Just your level is too low and it might have turned you down automatically

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about it

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Bless

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Anything Hello testing one two three four

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What is it? What's the question? Uh? In the sound panel. What is your mic level?

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Which like in the in the calls sound panel no in the computer sound panel got it. So if you go to

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Change system sounds if you just start menu sounds

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Then I know I just I thought you meant in the call. Oh, I'm I'm sorry

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It's like halfway halfway. Yeah, I don't know turn that up more

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Okay, oh wait, oh I've got all the way and then I can adjust you here

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Oh, I thought you meant what I was getting to it's not a hundred. Okay. That's good then

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Oh, you guys know that I like to have the twitch and YouTube dashboards as well, right?

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Okay, maybe for next week. Let's not bother for this week. Okay

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Okay, you guys ready you know in the setup on your laptop. Yeah

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We changed out our laptops. Oh

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What am I holding here

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Linus from our iPhone user intro currently charging. Oh

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Okay, I might like to take the power bank. Can I take the power bank? Yes, this would be really useful

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Nice oh look at all that PD then you say where you're headed remember that we're live

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Okay The answer is no

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Check how's the elbow? Oh, I was just massaging hit actually work in oh, I guess you could see me

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Which is why you asked I played last night and

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I'm paying for it a little bit. I think my ibuprofen from this morning is wearing off

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I Am getting my I got my x-rays already

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Last Friday, I want to say. Yeah, I think it was last Friday. I got my x-rays

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Have my referral now from the x-rays to go to the like orthopedic specialist or whatever

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And then my hope is that they're gonna tell me I think so

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Aren't they joint doctors?

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Yeah, okay. Yeah, so my hope is that I hear myself

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Do you have the stream open?

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Yeah, there we go. Yes, yes, yes My hope is that they are going to tell me that I'm a good candidate for PRP

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And then I want to get a PRP injection and hopefully speed up the healing a little bit

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Because that is as far as I can tell basically the only thing you can do other than just like keep doing your physio

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Yeah And Dan vibes, I know the problem is that the cable is too tight

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So I've been trying to solve that, but I'm aware of the problem. I think it's okay

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I mean you are sending this at the wrong time during the show. Yeah, okay

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There you go. Good reply Dan. We're gonna talk about that later Yeah, Linus is old now

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Parad what? Parasetamol or acetaminophen paracetamol. Oh acetaminophen for sure

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We say acetaminophen. Yeah. Oh minifen whatever we say something Tylenol. We say that one

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Which one is it is Luke saying it right he's probably saying it right

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Oh, there we go nice

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Those oddies they look like it acetaminophen

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Tylenol is really bad for you. I mean I don't know. It's better than being in so much pain. You can't sleep sometimes. So

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Sure You guys ready to go I had tendon repair surgery tendons take forever to heal. Yeah

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They're way more apparently the the person who set up business just messaged me

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Apparently Luke is still pretty quiet. Yeah, he keeps getting turned down. I don't know why

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Hello testing one two three four. See that's better

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Do you want to keep talking? Yeah Dyslexic stoner 240 says I've had a tendon injury since September. I'm still not back to being able to lift more than 20 pounds

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Yeah, that's about the timeline. I'm on right now. I think I got injured in more like October

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I don't even remember anymore. I just know that it was months and I'm really unhappy

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Guys ready I'm ready Luke

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I mean, I'm good whenever man. That's are you but I thought we're dealing with your audio levels

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Are we are we not? I'm not doing anything on my end. Sounds fine. Oh, okay. Let's do this thing then. Yeah

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I can always play with it Okay, okay, you got your panels and stuff. I'm ready to go. Oh wait, I don't think I have the panels either

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Yeah, did you sign me into that no I figured you use your laptop for that

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Oh, okay, I guess that's not people asking you about the backpack in the corner That's not my backpack the the owner of this

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Residence is just based and has an LTT backpack

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Based yeah, babe. I have I have good news based even mean oh

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My front shoulder thing didn't bug me when I worked out this week and we played two hours of pickleball at my shoulder was fine

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How is that good news? You think I'm gonna switch to old man racket support just for you. No, that's the only thing you can play

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Wow Thursday, I'm gonna try badminton Thursday. Why Thursday?

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Cuz that's probably the best easiest day for me to go do it. Are you not gonna be there Thursday?

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Well, I don't you know that LMG badminton night is on Tuesdays, right? I know. Oh, okay

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But sorry, sorry, wait, where are you going on Thursday?

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You're just gonna like randomly go on Thursday. I thought you went there like all the time. Well. Yeah, what I'm not injured

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He's poking at a sore spot for me here I did manage to go play last night, but I like not at the level I like to play at

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Gonna play next Tuesday No

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Okay, well, just let me know when you're gonna. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, don't worry. We're gonna get back into it

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I'm gonna train you up, dude. We're gonna train you up. You're gonna get trained

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I was very happy because you know, it's it's not the same motion. Yeah, and I honestly found that I was overhitting all the time

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So it was a lot less force, but still two hours and I felt nothing

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So that's incredible pickleball is actually crazy fun. I've only played a couple times, but it's a blast

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Was that your first time? That was my first time

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What is up everyone another day another launch where the MSRP cards are either nowhere to be found or

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Very tiny few to be found. We're gonna be getting into that talking about both the launch of the RTX 5070 and

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We will also be talking about an article that is from last week

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But I think still merit some discussion today tech radar says pre-built are always

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Superior that is the honest truth unless you are an IT God

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What okay, what else we got for this week? What a week. It's gonna be

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For the seven people that care Mozilla rewrites firefox's terms of use after user backlash and their brain back dig

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Vessie Corsair and of course our rap partner D brand our laptop partner Dell and our chair partner

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Oh, there it is. Oh, sorry. I gotta cover it up because it's a secret

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Shh secret lab. I get it. All right. Why don't we jump right into our first topic today?

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Which is of course going to be the big launches this week Adam put?

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Gosh darn it He put so much work into preparing this topic that I'm gonna do my very best to read as much of as I can without getting

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Exhausted and video AMD have launched their 70 class cards and boy were they doozy's here's a rundown from worst

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To less worst the NVIDIA RTX 5070 turns out no it does not in fact have

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4090 performance dude what dude you were there with me when I filmed that little clip where I like did the little quip to

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Austin right or had you joined us yet? I don't think you had

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Never mind. I lied because we were at the keynote together But Luke was sitting somewhere else he had better seats and then I just went where they shepherded us into the press area

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Where we were like, oh, okay, so I guess we're like Third-class citizens after the investors and the analysts because that's what NVIDIA's into these days any who I didn't have great

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RTX 5070 at 549 or 649 or whatever 549 would match the performance of the 4090 and

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Everyone in their dog is already filming it as you can see so we are contributing literally nothing to the zate geist or however

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Um Anywho we are contributing absolutely nothing literally anything we record here of the stage is redundant because

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Everyone else in their dog has their cameras out recording it and number two

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What they're doing is completely redundant anyway because NVIDIA is live streaming the whole thing and you could do

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The gamer moves seem to be I know I know I think bit with Kyle did this and a few other people

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But I don't remember who where they just re-streamed the broadcast and stayed home

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Yeah, they just commented over it. Yeah Tons of live viewers. It was it was like very very I mean dude. I told NVIDIA

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In that moment I was like yo Andrew I know I told you that we're not filming anything but get get the get the camera get the camera

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I got mic'd up like put on the mic. Okay, and I got that clip dude

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That clip has been I'm gonna get so much mileage out of that

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I'll believe it when I see it clip because every time NVIDIA says something that is just complete bullshit

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I'm gonna be able to pull out that clip pull it out again of me at the press conference for the 5090 launch being like

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I'll believe it when I see it. Um, so yeah, well, you would have been able to pull it out for every single NVIDIA launch that I have personally seen so

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It's about 20 faster than a 4070 barely nets a single digit percent increase over the 4070 super

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It's 12 gigs of VRAM poses longevity concerns, especially at 4k, and it is pretty much non-existent at retail

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While those quick to the punch were able to get their hands on a card most folks were unable to find them at msrp

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Yeah, AMD things went

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Complicated it was a much better received launch including by yours truly

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The 90 70 has the same msrp as the 50 70 from NVIDIA while being about 9 faster at 1440p and 4k raster

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in ray tracing the 90 70 beats out the previous flagship 7900 x tx which launched at an msrp of

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$1,000 but actually fell behind the 50 70 in our testing though other outlets found that

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It was within 5 to 7 percent across their suite of ray traced games

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It gets 16 gigs of GDDR 6 though Which gives us a little bit more confidence that it will continue to be able to keep up in the future

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Without seeing lag spikes and was in stock for substantially longer actually several hours rather than several minutes

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Meanwhile the 90 70 x t competes in performance with the 50 70 ti and AMD's 7900 x tx and raster and ray tracing

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It competes and even beats the 50 70 in several titles great card

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undercuts and digits offerings and price brings ray tracing to a serviceable level and is generally pretty good

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However, however. Oh, yeah fsr4 looks pretty good image quality. No more distracting than dlss4

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And outlets who have done deep dives into the image quality rated as matching the dlss cnn model

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But legs behind in some areas compared compared to NVIDIA's latest transformer model

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However, it's not all sunshine and roses for AMD and there's going to be a number of sources that we're going to be talking about

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So stick with me for a little bit here guys because there's a lot of sides to this story

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Oh, that makes sense because video cards with an s wouldn't exist

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Hey, I get it. They were planning for the future. They had a crystal ball when they bought that domain

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Oh, boy. Uh, anyway, they got a quote from ocuk's andrew gibson who stated

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msrp is a capped quantity of a few hundred

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So prices will jump once those are sold through

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They also received insight about rebates from swedish retailer inet.se who claimed that msrp prices will apply to a limited number of cards

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The prices only apply to the first shipment of each model

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I have a note in here from adam who prepared this topic

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Linus, can you comment on this sort of rebate behavior? Is this common place?

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My experience in the grocery industry knows that this isn't out of the ordinary

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But I also sold jam and shortening. So not sure how that translates. What I will say is this

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Back when Back when I was working in retail

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Demand for the latest GPU was not like it is today

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um I would say under normal circumstances

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Yes, there are elements of this launch that were that would seem pretty wild if you haven't worked in the industry before

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But are kind of normal like the fact that pricing didn't seem to be finalized up until

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Like the hours before the launch and I'll talk a little bit more about that later. That's not unusual

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We would I'm not saying it's good. It's not good. It's absolute madness, but it's not

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Unusual we would regularly cut po's for literally like hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of GPU's

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And have no idea what our cost was for them and what our msrp was going to be for them

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Hundreds of thousands of dollars of GPU's like like hundreds of of top spec cards

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And we literally wouldn't have a price Evga wouldn't have a price and our direct NVIDIA rep wouldn't have a price. They're just like

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Buy them. This is your allocation Take them or someone else will take them and you're like

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Okay, because what else are you gonna do? You don't you don't have any GPU's to sell what your computer store with no GPU's is ridiculous, right?

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So you just take them and that's and that's it you cut a po

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um However, what I will say is that the idea of having

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A a rebate like this like an instant rebate because there's different kinds of there's different kinds of rebates

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Okay, so there's your mail-in rebates. Those are the ones that have the little form you fill out for the consumer

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And they they send in the they mail in the form and they they get some money back

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The redemption rates on those are somewhere between 10 and 50 percent

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And the higher ones tend to have a much higher redemption rate once you go past a certain number

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Don't quote me on those exact numbers. It's been a minute and consumer behavior might have changed a little bit

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But the point is just that there's a wide range of redemption and the people who

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Do redeem it are essentially being subsidized by the people who don't redeem it

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That's the way the math works on the on a mail-in rebate. So there's your mail-in rebate

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Okay, then there is your kind of point of sale rebate po s rebate

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And that's going to take place At the point of sale and those are those are kind of like a commission or a spiff

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For a uh for like a a salesperson, but it goes at the retailer level

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So you're expected to kind of use it for a short term promotion

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um And and the idea is that you're you're driving sales during some kind of an event like uh march amdness

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For for march madness AMD usually does a like a basketball themed promo for march madness march amdness

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So that would usually have something like uh like a po s rebate across

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bundles of AMD products or partner products in order to kind of push up the volumes during that time

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The last kind would be like a price protection

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slash um Like like instant rebate instant rebate actually there's more of a terminology for po s rebate, but like a price protection

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So like a credit essentially a credit where they are taking your entire

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inventory that you have and they are price protecting you down to a new

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Presumably permanent price and that would happen in the event that you had something like a significant price drop

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So I would say the only example of that that I remember seeing was when NVIDIA launched the

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gtx 480 or 480 gtx

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Excuse me. I've got my my prefixes and suffixes moved around because NVIDIA moved them around

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um NVIDIA launched that card thinking that it was going to sell

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and it like didn't I think

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I think that was probably the worst NVIDIA card launch that I saw

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In my in my years working at ncix. We effectively they were dead in the water on launch day

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And so what happened was we had our inventory that we had bought without knowing how much we were paying for it

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And we basically went look guys you fucked this

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um You need to deal with this And so we got our stock price protected down if I recall correctly. It may have also been a pos rebate, but one that was like

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This is a pos rebate But it the understanding was that it was perpetual to help us get rid of this stuff and and they effectively adjusted the price of that thing

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So with all of that in mind the idea

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of a new card arriving And some portion of my inventory being

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instant rebated as like a an introductory promo

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Knowing that some of my inventory would

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Jump back up to a higher price after the fact

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No, I have never seen that before

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And I consider that to be if that is indeed what is happening

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There is more to the story which we'll get to but if that is indeed what is happening

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I consider that to be extremely disingenuous because that is not

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Uh reflective of what the long-term situation is going to be that's an introductory promo

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That is not an msrp And if you're not enabling and I can tell you again from working in retail and knowing that this hasn't changed

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I can tell you that the margins are not there to support

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Selling this thing at 5.99. So I'll use this the xt as my example

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The margins are not there to support selling this at 5.99

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If you need it is to rebate to get there you make like six points on a GPU like get real as a retailer

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That is unless you are well We'll get to the whole thing where you can have marketplaces sell the GPU and they can be at higher prices

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And you take a cut of that and well, I mean it's not my fault. I didn't price it at that anyway

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That's a whole that's a whole other conversation. This is very

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Very deep very complicated

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And we're just getting started So I would say the closest thing that I ever saw to the kind of fervor

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That is going on in the GPU market right now because I worked there

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pre ai boom pre crypto boom, right

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I would say the 8800 gt Was the closest I ever saw and that that was a rip in

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launch Like it basically offered similar procedure. He remembers this guy remembers. It was a good time

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Anyone who was there for 8800 gt launch

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Remembers because that thing was wild. It was based on the g92 die if I recall correctly

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So it was a process node shrink compared to the g80 which was the 8800

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gtx that was the the top spec card And this 8800 gt was on this new die that was on a new node. It was crazy power efficient

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It clocked crazy. Well, it was it was killer

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I think it had a little bit less RAM or something like that Like it had less vram, but it was available in two different configs one with less and one with more

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And you didn't really need the extra vram for a lot of modern games at that time

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So a lot of people went with the lower priced lower vram one

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And it offered Bloody near the same performance this 8800 gt like non gtx and it was like a mid-cycle refresh

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The whole thing was bizarre near 8800 gtx performance at a fraction of the heat

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Therefore it was a single slot card and at like half the price

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Like it was wild and if you compared it to the 8800 ultra which was

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Barely better than a gtx, but cost way more the value proposition was like unheard of like people and remember

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Sli was a thing back then and scaled pretty okay across a lot of games that people actually played

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So people were buying two of these For like the price of a single 8800 gtx and absolutely

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Turb stomping the gtx in terms of performance

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Nobody could keep these things in stock. It was a feeding frenzy

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And what happened was over time the 8800 gt did go up in price

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But it didn't happen like this. It didn't happen that

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Your initial inventory would come in

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And they would basically have you pay a higher price and then instant rebate you down

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So you could sell a limited amount of them at a lower price. No, you paid the lower price

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And the way that pricing went up was that your next shipment would be at a higher price

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So it was up to the retailer to determine, you know, how much they were going to market up or whatever

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With the manufacturer's suggestions, right? It was up to the retailer how they were going to market up

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But no one was kind of exercising external control on that card by having you pay a higher price

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And then enabling the msrp with a spiff or a discount or an instant rebate or a pos rebate

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Or whatever these mechanisms are

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So no in conclusion, I have never seen what Andrew Gibson and the swedish retailer are

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describing No, I have not

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So let's hear the other side of the story

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The verge asked AMD Can you confirm or deny that the best prices on the best priced cards are capped in this way?

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And what AMD said is it is inaccurate that the 549 599 msrp is launch only pricing

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We expect cards to be available from multiple vendors at 549 599

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excluding region specific tariffs and or taxes

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Based on the work we have done with our aib partners and more are coming

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At the same time the aibs have different premium configurations at higher price points

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And those will also continue now. That's another thing that is different these days

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It used to be that a premium version and i'm going to use evga's lingo. Okay, so a ko or uh, sc or um

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Okay, kingpins are bad examples. Those were a lot more expensive, but these

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These uh, these these premium versions of a card

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usually Didn't encroach or barely encroached on the pricing of the card above them

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Nowadays, dude It feels like you can see like a like an overbuilt card like a premium or an overclocked version of a card

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That literally costs like 30 percent more

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And you're looking at it going like well, well, hold on I shouldn't I just be getting like a completely new class of GPU for this. This is ridiculous

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But because the price bands Have been so stretched out like they used to have to fit

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Like your 30 class GPU your 50 your 50 ti your 60 your 60 ti your 70 your

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You know your 80 your your 90 or your your tighten

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But all of that fit within a you know about 200 to

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800 a thousand dollars, right? Well now well, I don't know. We've got price bands all the way from like 400 bucks all the way to

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$2,000 So all of a sudden

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You can have a card that's supposed to be $400. You have an overbuilt version of it. That's $550 or $600

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And you're still like 50 100 bucks below the next up card. It's ridiculous

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So it's really it's really hard to put downward pressure on the pricing of a 50 70

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When 50 70 ti's are so much more expensive that jumping up to it isn't just a logical step

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Um, all right, what else do we have here?

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It's a long topic and that tangent took so long and it's still such a long

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Well, dude, I mean is it interesting because you guys can tell me if you're more than we can move on

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Okay, people seem pretty engaged. Okay many folks have cried foul on AMD claiming. They are doing evil d

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deeds Adam's guess is that it's mostly incompetence

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I mean, of course companies are trying to maximize profits. That's what they exist to do

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But AMD doesn't AMD doesn't sell gps out of the goodness of their hearts

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But there does seem to be some incompetence But also maybe some strategic incompetence because I had another email hit my inbox that adam

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Didn't have access to that will add a little bit more context to what i'm about to say

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So strap in The pricing was last minute

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Hardware unboxed noted in their 9 000 series announcement video that they had prepared

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Multiple conclusions to the announcement because AMD hadn't determined pricing yet and we did the same thing

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We prepared three different conclusions for our video depending on the announced pricing from AMD

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That means that this information was likely

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Provided last minute to retailers and even board partners who would have needed to prepare promotional materials social media posts

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Signage advertising database entries and more in an extremely short period of time

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AMD would have had to communicate to all of their retail and manufacturing partners

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Provide compensation if prices were being adjusted in the form of rebates or payments board partners would have had to reprice all

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Their products communicate to retailers and si's and the like and this scramble leaves a lot of room for errors

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Like best buy listing the msrp cards as on sale at launch time

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AMD has since confirmed This was an error on best buys part because the availability date was supposed to be a day after

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Whoopsie doodles Board partners also deal with razor thin margins and have a big interest in making as much money as possible from pent up demand

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So the question is what can AMD do about this and adam's conclusion is i mean not much

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Frank azor from AMD says they will be encouraging aibs to keep cards at msrp

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um and we spoke uh

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and i think that's um

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I think that's A little bit disingenuous personally because i do believe that AMD can do more than just suggest things

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Here's an example of something that AMD could do is if board partners are not allocating enough of their cards to

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msrp versions They could not allocate them gpus. That is

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Literally the lever that is the way that GPU makers and this drives me crazy because

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I can be kind of pedantic sometimes and this is a distinction that actually does matter in my opinion

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GPU makers Are named Intel AMD and invidia

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Graphics board or video card or graphics card or add in board board board partners

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Those are the sapphires ASUS's MSI's

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Power colors of the world. Okay, so that's not a GPU. That's a graphics card

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A GPU is the actual silicon die So that's the leverage that GPU makers traditionally have

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Over their board partners over the graphics card makers is that they can basically say look

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Play by our rules Or you will live you will either sell at the price that we dictate or you will sell nothing

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Now there's a problem with that

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The problem with that is that then they are exerting a kind of ridiculous level of control

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Over their you know partners and really not treating them very well

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Especially if they don't give them enough margin to survive see exhibit a

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evga Who didn't survive in the graphics card market because they simply

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And this is this is a little bit of conjecture on my part, but simply got squeezed out

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There was just not enough margin for them to continue to make it

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Um Now here's where the story gets a little bit

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Where we get a little bit more color commentary on the story We spoke with a system integrator who had a bit of a different

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And I wouldn't say different take but a more a more expanded upon take

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Their their take was basically that all AMD really cares about to call this launch a success

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Is to see big lineups at microcenter and we did see some evidence that microcenter got a

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Huge allocation compared to what was available online. I don't know this for sure

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But it does seem like Retail

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I feel like we're I feel like we've gone back two decades

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It does seem like retail Got the priority for the launch

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Compared to e-tail compared to online

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which Again, you want to talk about things that I don't remember seeing in my entire career

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Well, that's one of them That's wild dude that the way to get these products on launch day is that you have you like go

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Line up and buy something in person

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um So they were pretty frustrated their total allocation

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Of 90 70 x t's from one board partner that they were able to use in their systems was three units

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Those units their cost was over msrp

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So what that tells me what that tells me is that

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We are not getting the whole story from AMD because it's very clear from those retailers telling us

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Hey, we only have pricing support on a limited number of these cards

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And AMD never actually said That the everyday msrp will be

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Or the everyday price on these cards will be 549 599 all they said is that they'll continue to be available

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They didn't say in what kinds of quantities, right? So what that tells us is that it takes some kind of spiff or pos rebate

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Or something in order to hit these prices. These are not

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Everyday prices because if they were then an si would be able to buy a card at

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570 dollars and make a few points of margin selling it at 599

416
00:41:57,020 --> 00:42:04,780
That would be possible But what tends to happen when your pricing is controlled via spiff or via instant rebate

417
00:42:05,260 --> 00:42:08,060
Is that only the large players will have access to that?

418
00:42:08,380 --> 00:42:12,300
And so when you go buy something at a mom and pop shop or from a small system integrator

419
00:42:12,700 --> 00:42:16,060
It'll be at a much higher price because they don't have access to any of that

420
00:42:16,300 --> 00:42:22,300
They just buy from a distributor and the prices whatever the channel prices, whatever the market will bear

421
00:42:23,900 --> 00:42:28,300
Another element that they brought up with us is that curiously

422
00:42:29,740 --> 00:42:34,700
A lot Hover ship said his 9070 xt

423
00:42:35,500 --> 00:42:37,500
From microcenter was 1100 dollars

424
00:42:39,180 --> 00:42:45,660
Yeah, that doesn't surprise you um Okay, how do I say this in a nice way? He said 789 what?

425
00:42:46,220 --> 00:42:51,020
Oh, okay, okay. He said 1100 and then he said 79. Okay, okay 789

426
00:42:51,340 --> 00:42:54,300
Okay, that actually ties really well into the next point

427
00:42:55,020 --> 00:43:00,540
This si contact who we're not going to name just because we don't want them to get in trouble for giving us this inside baseball

428
00:43:01,420 --> 00:43:06,460
This si contact pointed out that it's curious that a lot of the cards

429
00:43:07,180 --> 00:43:12,460
Have ended up kind of it for for the 70 for the 9070 xt have ended up in the

430
00:43:13,100 --> 00:43:18,380
kind of 720 dollar range Kind of plus depending on how overbuilt they are

431
00:43:19,180 --> 00:43:26,380
Well, here's something to consider 599 plus a 20 tariff equals what?

432
00:43:29,260 --> 00:43:31,260
720 dollars

433
00:43:33,260 --> 00:43:37,180
Gotcha and here's the thing Here's the thing

434
00:43:37,180 --> 00:43:43,020
When NVIDIA launched their newest generation cards, they didn't know what the tariffs would be

435
00:43:43,500 --> 00:43:52,460
There is at least An argument to be made that NVIDIA did not know that there would be tariffs on their cards impacting the pricing and don't kid yourself

436
00:43:53,020 --> 00:43:55,420
There are tariffs and they are impacting the pricing

437
00:43:56,300 --> 00:43:59,580
AMD knew

438
00:43:59,580 --> 00:44:03,500
Before AMD announced their retail msrp

439
00:44:04,300 --> 00:44:08,620
They knew that there would be 20 tariffs on these cards if they were shipping out of china

440
00:44:09,180 --> 00:44:11,660
And many many of them are manufactured there

441
00:44:12,540 --> 00:44:16,940
So what it appears to me and i can't say this for certain

442
00:44:17,340 --> 00:44:21,180
But with all of the evidence that i've seen and with all of the experience that i have

443
00:44:21,660 --> 00:44:28,220
What it appears to me is happening here is AMD wanted to undercut NVIDIA on their msrp

444
00:44:29,340 --> 00:44:33,420
Is selling these cards into the market with 20 tariffs on them

445
00:44:34,460 --> 00:44:41,500
knowing that Realistically, their their partners will not be able to hit those prices across

446
00:44:42,220 --> 00:44:46,300
The entire inventory that they have but that they could strategically

447
00:44:46,700 --> 00:44:49,900
Trickle out a few of them at that price while selling the rest

448
00:44:50,380 --> 00:44:57,180
At a much higher price that reflects the tariffs which they expect customers to simply accept and absorb

449
00:44:57,900 --> 00:45:01,420
Because GPU prices are so high in the market

450
00:45:02,300 --> 00:45:08,540
It appears to me that AMD has no real intention of actually hitting those prices

451
00:45:09,420 --> 00:45:14,540
But it may not be entirely their fault because AMD certainly didn't start a trade war

452
00:45:16,300 --> 00:45:22,540
Question, uh, yeah, I don't think while you were working at insects. There was noticeable tariffs

453
00:45:22,620 --> 00:45:29,420
But no, do you know anyone or have any experience with stores that operate during like i haven't seen this so far

454
00:45:29,500 --> 00:45:37,580
But would it be normal to display? That like this is the base price and then it increases by this much because of the tariff like would you explain that?

455
00:45:37,580 --> 00:45:42,700
No to the user what would normally happen is if you were a canadian store

456
00:45:42,860 --> 00:45:46,780
Let's say or actually let's let's use a chinese store as a as a better example

457
00:45:47,180 --> 00:45:51,580
If you were a chinese store and by chinese store, I don't mean ali express dot com

458
00:45:52,060 --> 00:45:57,580
That's very much owned by ali baba group or whatever right but like it's very much a chinese store

459
00:45:57,900 --> 00:46:04,940
But it is it has an english storefront Like it is a it is a you know western storefront for a chinese company

460
00:46:05,340 --> 00:46:11,820
So when I say chinese store i'm talking like tau bao like an actual like four chinese people in china

461
00:46:12,220 --> 00:46:19,260
chinese store So the way that I would expect them to handle it is if you are ordering from a tariff country

462
00:46:19,740 --> 00:46:24,700
They would either have some kind of disclaimer that there may be that they're not responsible for any

463
00:46:25,420 --> 00:46:29,500
Import duties tariffs whatever and then you would be slapped with a tariff bill when it arrives

464
00:46:29,980 --> 00:46:37,180
When it arrives, yeah, that's how I would expect that to happen If you are a retailer and you are buying in bulk from a tariff source

465
00:46:37,660 --> 00:46:44,060
Then I would expect that to simply be bundled into your cost the same way that anything else would be whether it's freight or

466
00:46:44,700 --> 00:46:49,020
You know transaction fees or or whatever else like when we were at ncix

467
00:46:49,740 --> 00:46:54,060
You would have kind of we had kind of like a cheat sheet for what the rough costs would be

468
00:46:54,060 --> 00:47:03,020
So on something like a power supply I could I could basically say as long as i'm ordering in pallet quantities and not in in just box quantities

469
00:47:03,500 --> 00:47:07,740
Somewhere in the neighborhood of around over the time that I was there freight costs went up a lot

470
00:47:07,820 --> 00:47:12,460
So it started at around a dollar a dollar fifty and then went up to probably around

471
00:47:12,860 --> 00:47:18,140
Two dollars to two dollars and fifty cents per power supply in terms of factoring in your freight cost

472
00:47:18,540 --> 00:47:25,340
So you would just account for that that that import tariff as part of your of your import cost of the item

473
00:47:25,420 --> 00:47:29,340
And then you would mark up from there and that would be transparent to the customer other than just that

474
00:47:29,820 --> 00:47:31,820
The prices suck

475
00:47:32,940 --> 00:47:36,460
Okay Fair enough

476
00:47:36,460 --> 00:47:38,460
So in summary

477
00:47:40,140 --> 00:47:44,140
I don't think That AMD

478
00:47:45,100 --> 00:47:47,980
Had any intention of these cards being

479
00:47:48,940 --> 00:47:52,220
universally available at these prices um

480
00:47:52,220 --> 00:47:58,540
Or if they did have an intention I think that it might have been kind of um a misguided hope

481
00:47:59,100 --> 00:48:04,060
Or I mean I I mean things have gone kind of ping-pong back and forth on the whole tariff thing a fair bit

482
00:48:04,300 --> 00:48:10,380
So maybe it was a naive hope then that the tariffs would not be there and that they would be able to hit them

483
00:48:10,620 --> 00:48:15,660
But as it is now I don't think they did on china. I think they did on canada than mexico

484
00:48:16,300 --> 00:48:20,300
Oh, like actually, yeah, I know that's right um, so as it is now

485
00:48:20,860 --> 00:48:27,180
I think that the more I think the more transparent thing for AMD AMD to do would be to say

486
00:48:28,060 --> 00:48:31,180
There are outside factors impacting our costs

487
00:48:31,740 --> 00:48:36,140
We are going to do our best to make sure that there are cards available at these msrp's

488
00:48:36,780 --> 00:48:42,220
Um, however, it is very clear from these external factors that are impacting our costs

489
00:48:42,620 --> 00:48:49,340
to import these cards, um That not every card will be available at these prices and we are effectively

490
00:48:49,900 --> 00:48:58,620
going to be Shifting margin from the buckets on the cards where we're making money down to these

491
00:48:59,420 --> 00:49:05,340
deeply discounted ones at msrp msrp is a is a discounted price

492
00:49:05,420 --> 00:49:08,140
It's a promotional price as far as I can tell

493
00:49:08,620 --> 00:49:15,340
um, and I am I'm deeply this I'm disappointed disappointed. This guy's about to say I'm deeply discounted

494
00:49:16,780 --> 00:49:18,780
um

495
00:49:20,380 --> 00:49:26,780
Yeah Speaking of you being deeply discounted you can take off the hat. Oh, yeah, thanks. No worries

496
00:49:31,820 --> 00:49:37,580
There we go that is much more comfortable headphones over top of a took is not my vibe

497
00:49:38,540 --> 00:49:44,940
Yeah Uh, so anything else questions or people people board of this conversation

498
00:49:45,340 --> 00:49:49,260
I can't I can't tell if they they were into it or not because I don't have all my chats open

499
00:49:51,740 --> 00:49:56,060
Yeah, it seems like people are all right with it. So yeah, uh, good luck everybody

500
00:49:57,580 --> 00:50:01,980
The discussion questions are pretty good. Um, what is the source of the supply shortage?

501
00:50:02,060 --> 00:50:05,980
How are board partners feeling? I'm sure they would much rather be selling more GPU's

502
00:50:06,540 --> 00:50:11,900
And then do you think NVIDIA and AMD are indulging in scarcity marketing? No, well, I don't think so

503
00:50:11,980 --> 00:50:15,100
No, I don't think marketing is the primary driver. I think with AMD

504
00:50:15,740 --> 00:50:18,460
Um, I mean their GPU launches have been

505
00:50:19,020 --> 00:50:24,860
Low volume and then their post launch sales have been even lower volume for years and years and years at this point

506
00:50:24,940 --> 00:50:32,540
Like I remember Having like a really silly conversation with a viewer at one point where they were like, why don't you ever acknowledge vega 56?

507
00:50:32,620 --> 00:50:37,740
I'm like, what are you even talking about? I literally like seven of them I pulled up. Yeah, I pulled up new egg and I was like

508
00:50:38,380 --> 00:50:43,740
There's one card and it's like an open box card like this this GPU effectively doesn't exist

509
00:50:43,740 --> 00:50:48,220
What are you even talking about or like no, it wasn't vega at 56. It was radion seven

510
00:50:49,020 --> 00:50:54,940
Well, even vega miners bought all of them. Yeah, but no radion seven was different radion seven just wasn't a card

511
00:50:55,420 --> 00:51:00,860
It was this like weird launch thing AMD made like a few of them with their partners

512
00:51:00,860 --> 00:51:04,940
It was like repurposed dies from some workstation or compute card or something

513
00:51:05,420 --> 00:51:10,460
And then they dropped driver support like immediately for it. Like it was a complete clown show of a product

514
00:51:10,540 --> 00:51:16,540
it wasn't a real product and And people were like, oh why don't you don't acknowledge mg the radio?

515
00:51:16,780 --> 00:51:21,900
It's like dude drop the drop your fanboy because I don't care that doesn't you're not making sense

516
00:51:21,980 --> 00:51:29,980
You don't make any sense right now So that but that's been AMD's situation for years and years and years. I mean even 7900 series

517
00:51:30,540 --> 00:51:38,300
Kind of did okay But that was it. It kind of did okay. I'm not convinced that they made any enormous volume of these cards

518
00:51:38,780 --> 00:51:44,540
So if I was AMD and their partners even if I thought I might have something good on my hands

519
00:51:45,340 --> 00:51:52,380
I'd have like ptsd from how many times I'd been given the smackdown from NVIDIA every time I tried to launch something decent

520
00:51:52,700 --> 00:51:59,500
And have them just like pull another ace out of their butt crack and be like boom guess you get to sell nothing

521
00:52:00,460 --> 00:52:05,020
So overbuilding for them. I mean it's risky. You got to think about the numbers involved here

522
00:52:05,340 --> 00:52:08,780
Okay, guys think about the numbers if I'm AMD. Okay

523
00:52:09,420 --> 00:52:12,220
Or I'm let's actually let's put ourselves in the in the

524
00:52:12,780 --> 00:52:19,100
In the situation of a board partner instead because that's a much tougher one AMD's margins are going to be better

525
00:52:19,500 --> 00:52:24,620
And their their inventory holdings are going to be lower because AMD only holds

526
00:52:25,340 --> 00:52:35,420
GPUs or in some cases don't quote me on this But my understanding at least on the NVIDIA side is that they will actually provide kits like GPU kits to board partners

527
00:52:35,500 --> 00:52:38,940
And that will include the GPU and the memory so they may take some margin there

528
00:52:39,020 --> 00:52:44,220
They may actually take on some inventory risk there Don't quote me on that for AMD or even NVIDIA for that matter

529
00:52:44,220 --> 00:52:49,500
But what i'm saying is that they carry inventory for only part of the finished product

530
00:52:50,060 --> 00:52:59,180
The board partner They have to take on inventory for the GPU die itself for the memory for the power delivery components the pc raw pcb's any

531
00:52:59,340 --> 00:53:06,220
Connectors and dudads coolers coolers are a very significant expense. So they are holding enormous inventory

532
00:53:06,540 --> 00:53:10,940
There's lead time in terms of building them packing them shipping them. So by the time

533
00:53:11,580 --> 00:53:16,220
They're actually delivering this thing to a consumer if all goes according to plan

534
00:53:16,620 --> 00:53:24,460
They have paid all of their all of their suppliers for this stuff They are effectively probably not able to utilize their their net payment terms much

535
00:53:24,860 --> 00:53:28,220
And that becomes even more true the longer this thing sits and rods

536
00:53:28,620 --> 00:53:32,780
So if i'm a board partner and we're talking about a 599 product

537
00:53:33,100 --> 00:53:36,460
I can assume that my bill of materials is probably somewhere in the neighborhood of

538
00:53:37,020 --> 00:53:42,940
400 to 450 dollars At least so let's use let's use 450

539
00:53:43,900 --> 00:53:52,540
If i overbook Right like if i overestimate and i'm a global company, right? So for i'm sapphire, right?

540
00:53:53,260 --> 00:53:55,900
I got a supply if i supply even one

541
00:53:56,540 --> 00:54:00,780
Single GPU to every computer shop around the world. How many am i making?

542
00:54:01,340 --> 00:54:08,300
right hundreds of thousands Millions, you know, we're talking about enormous amounts of money

543
00:54:08,780 --> 00:54:11,820
So if i if i get it wrong by even

544
00:54:12,700 --> 00:54:17,420
5 000 units, right? That's 2.25 million dollars

545
00:54:19,260 --> 00:54:25,340
I can't get it wrong And if i'm gonna get it wrong i'd rather get it wrong on the low side

546
00:54:25,740 --> 00:54:31,420
Especially if i've been burned time and time and time and time again

547
00:54:32,220 --> 00:54:36,620
On building a bunch of these stupid radion cards and then nobody freaking wanting them

548
00:54:37,340 --> 00:54:42,460
Right So no, I don't think this is scarcity marketing

549
00:54:42,940 --> 00:54:47,980
I think this is on the invidious side them just much rather using these

550
00:54:48,460 --> 00:54:55,660
um These waivers to build ai products and on the AMD side. I think this is as simple as

551
00:54:56,460 --> 00:55:00,940
Not buying enough allocation not buying enough wafer allocation from tsmc

552
00:55:01,020 --> 00:55:04,540
I'm sure AMD would love to be selling more cards, but they've got a book waivers

553
00:55:05,100 --> 00:55:11,260
Months in advance They don't know that invidious 50 series is going to suck back when they're booking

554
00:55:11,820 --> 00:55:15,580
Launch allocation for production for 90 70. They don't know that

555
00:55:16,460 --> 00:55:19,820
They might have Uh, that is awful by the way

556
00:55:20,460 --> 00:55:28,620
I can pick you up louder and clear. Oh, yeah Um, all right. I'll stop. Yeah, or just lean away. Maybe. Uh, anyway, the point is that um

557
00:55:29,580 --> 00:55:34,220
I I don't know. I don't know that invidious is going to lay a huge egg

558
00:55:34,700 --> 00:55:38,140
On their 50 series launch. I might have some sort of

559
00:55:39,340 --> 00:55:45,980
Whispers and scuttlebutt But I'm not going to know that their pricing is going to suck because invidious probably hasn't even determined their pricing yet

560
00:55:45,980 --> 00:55:49,980
And they certainly haven't leaked it to anybody. We don't find out until the very last minute

561
00:55:50,380 --> 00:55:53,900
So if I'm AMD, I'm going like oh my god. I don't know how many waivers because

562
00:55:54,620 --> 00:55:57,180
5080 might be they might pull a 30 series

563
00:55:57,820 --> 00:56:02,620
And just like boom Try to go after the console market. You guys remember that, right?

564
00:56:03,180 --> 00:56:06,620
That's how aggressive invidia can be when they want to be

565
00:56:07,420 --> 00:56:11,660
Because they were like basically f*** the playstation with this radion

566
00:56:12,460 --> 00:56:14,460
Graphics hardware in it f*** the xbox

567
00:56:15,740 --> 00:56:21,660
3080 is I forget what the 3080 msrp was but it I think it was like 600 bucks or something like that like it was aggressive

568
00:56:22,220 --> 00:56:27,020
And the 70 was so powerful. It was such good pricing, right? Invidia can be aggressive

569
00:56:27,820 --> 00:56:32,300
So I don't want to overplay my Pathetic, you know 90 70 hand

570
00:56:32,860 --> 00:56:37,260
If I think I might be up against invidious top tier GPU at that price. I have no idea

571
00:56:37,580 --> 00:56:43,580
But then as it turned out AMD was going to be up against their like fourth tier down and they were super competitive

572
00:56:44,300 --> 00:56:46,780
So yeah, they might ramp things up, but it's going to take time

573
00:56:48,220 --> 00:56:53,100
What else did we have for discussion here? I think that's it for the GPU's

574
00:56:53,980 --> 00:56:58,140
All right, good chat Fascinate

575
00:56:58,380 --> 00:57:01,980
What do you want to talk about today? Oh, oh my god. Are we supposed to do merge messages already down?

576
00:57:01,980 --> 00:57:08,460
Did I just take way too long to go through that? Yeah, you spoke for about 40 45 minutes. Oh, so very long

577
00:57:08,860 --> 00:57:13,980
We better rush through the rest of this. Okay. Was it was it boring? Sorry. I'm feeling insecure

578
00:57:14,540 --> 00:57:20,140
I think it was pretty good. I would have cut you off, but yeah, it was uh, I think it was good. It was just really long

579
00:57:20,620 --> 00:57:25,500
cool um

580
00:57:26,220 --> 00:57:28,220
Circumcision doctor says what?

581
00:57:29,580 --> 00:57:34,140
It's probably up there for one of the longest topics we've ever done. Uh, okay. Cool. Yeah

582
00:57:34,940 --> 00:57:38,780
Dead anti-social and Floatplane chat says you talk too much on your show

583
00:57:42,060 --> 00:57:48,140
All right, uh merge messages the way to interact with the show is to send a merge message

584
00:57:48,540 --> 00:57:52,540
We don't do twitch bits. We don't do um, whatever the other thing is, uh

585
00:57:53,420 --> 00:57:58,620
Super chats we do merge messages because the way we see it if you're gonna throw money at your screen

586
00:57:58,860 --> 00:58:03,500
You should get some fine lttstore.com merchandise in return

587
00:58:03,900 --> 00:58:07,660
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588
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589
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590
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591
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592
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593
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597
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And I would say our t-shirts are pretty well priced even with tariffs. Let's go

598
00:59:13,980 --> 00:59:18,140
Uh, yeah, they're putting a lot of pressure on me to increase our t-shirt pricing by the way

599
00:59:18,700 --> 00:59:24,220
So I'm not surprised I've wanted to treat the t-shirts like the cosco hotdog

600
00:59:24,780 --> 00:59:31,180
I even told someone in a meeting I'll kill you if you increase the price of the t-shirt. It's a reference. It's a reference

601
00:59:31,980 --> 00:59:39,180
It's a reference Did arianna know that before now? Um, yeah, it was nick so it doesn't matter. Um

602
00:59:40,940 --> 00:59:45,340
I can threaten to kill nick. It's fine. The point is point is that uh

603
00:59:46,700 --> 00:59:50,860
It's a reference. It's a referee gets he knows the reference

604
00:59:51,980 --> 00:59:55,260
He'll kill him in minecraft. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah

605
00:59:56,220 --> 00:59:57,900
Yeah, um

606
01:00:04,620 --> 01:00:08,140
And they are telling me that all our t-shirt pricing is becoming

607
01:00:08,700 --> 01:00:11,820
Untenable. Uh, we have never adjusted it. It's funny. We take

608
01:00:12,460 --> 01:00:16,700
So much flak for our supposedly expensive products and yeah, oh here it is

609
01:00:20,540 --> 01:00:23,100
This is an extremely expensive hoodie

610
01:00:23,820 --> 01:00:27,420
I get it It is embroidered

611
01:00:27,740 --> 01:00:36,780
This is not printed Go find me an all-over embroidered garment that is less than 150 us dollars

612
01:00:38,060 --> 01:00:42,140
Go find it. It should it should probably be at least a sweater because someone's gonna find like

613
01:00:43,260 --> 01:00:48,540
The sure like find me pants or a hoodie find me pants or a hoodie something big

614
01:00:49,100 --> 01:00:54,780
It costs a fortune. What do you want from me? Not every product is for everybody all over embroidered not just a little logo

615
01:00:55,740 --> 01:00:58,780
Not every product is for every person. I know it's expensive

616
01:00:58,940 --> 01:01:04,540
But what it isn't is overpriced. It's priced for what it is. Anyway, the point is our t-shirts. They're like 20 bucks

617
01:01:04,780 --> 01:01:13,660
I can't think of a single other Like creator merch that is 20 dollars for a t-shirt for a printed t quality printed t

618
01:01:13,740 --> 01:01:18,460
So I don't even want to hear it. Um, anyway, the point is that we've also we've also got the hoodie

619
01:01:18,540 --> 01:01:22,620
Which you guys can see here, which by the way also has printing on the back which costs us more

620
01:01:23,340 --> 01:01:25,980
And that's 60 us dollars for our fine

621
01:01:26,700 --> 01:01:32,380
Terminally online hoodie. This is a great shot by the way. I love this. There they are

622
01:01:33,580 --> 01:01:43,100
Gen Z Not talking to each other on their phones. It's perfect. It's flawless great job Tatiana sammy and I assume already was probably involved in that shoot as well

623
01:01:44,540 --> 01:01:47,740
I'm trying to find a sweater because there's like there's probably one of them

624
01:01:47,900 --> 01:01:51,900
What I'm finding is a lot of them will say embroidered design and it's printed

625
01:01:52,060 --> 01:01:57,980
But it looks like it's embroidered digitized D says I digitize embroidery and I promise that's cheap for a hoodie

626
01:01:58,940 --> 01:02:05,020
Exactly And I'm not okay. It's not cheap, but what it is is fair. It is fairly priced

627
01:02:05,740 --> 01:02:09,020
We have we have a cost markup model for our stuff

628
01:02:09,820 --> 01:02:12,620
We're not demanding some ridiculous margin

629
01:02:13,100 --> 01:02:21,980
Um And if you think we are hey, you don't have to buy anything. That's totally okay. Uh, any uh, any uh news on the uh

630
01:02:22,700 --> 01:02:25,900
I left it alone for a while. I did I was a good boy for a little bit

631
01:02:25,980 --> 01:02:29,980
I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna get one in there. What's coming any news on the talls

632
01:02:30,860 --> 01:02:35,340
Oh the tall blanks. I I I don't know as far as I know. We're just ordering them

633
01:02:35,740 --> 01:02:41,340
I was told I was told we have no less than three million dollars of inventory incoming

634
01:02:42,140 --> 01:02:48,620
so Things are a little bare right now on the store. Okay, we know we know and I have been told

635
01:02:49,020 --> 01:02:53,260
We have three million dollars of stuff on order. So hopefully there's some tall blanks in there

636
01:02:54,060 --> 01:02:58,620
But that's all I know a bunch of tall blanks immediately because I'm not waiting this time. Let's go

637
01:02:59,500 --> 01:03:05,660
I'm just gonna buy a bunch immediately. I was nice last time. I was like, I'll let the audience get some this time screw you guys

638
01:03:06,460 --> 01:03:11,100
I'm tired of this. I don't want to wait like seven more months to be able to buy a shirt

639
01:03:13,580 --> 01:03:16,620
I will sit on WAN Show when they're announced and I will order them live

640
01:03:17,180 --> 01:03:21,100
I will race all of you. Oh my goodness fight me now. Okay

641
01:03:22,700 --> 01:03:27,260
um Anyway, uh, we have an announcement if you were wondering

642
01:03:28,460 --> 01:03:31,740
about the Tuk that I was wearing

643
01:03:31,740 --> 01:03:37,500
I refused to call it a beanie. That is my uh, that is my act of solidarity with my fellow Canadians in this trying time

644
01:03:37,980 --> 01:03:45,260
Uh, if you're wondering about the tuk that I was wearing earlier It's because the why is wan late series a fan favorite Floatplane exclusive series

645
01:03:45,260 --> 01:03:49,100
That shows you the behind the scenes of what luke and I are up to each friday

646
01:03:49,340 --> 01:03:52,860
We've been competing to see who is the one who makes a wan late

647
01:03:53,660 --> 01:04:01,260
And as you can see I lost most recently to see all seven episodes in this monthly series head over to LMG.gg

648
01:04:01,580 --> 01:04:05,340
Slash Floatplane Actually, I'll lose every time

649
01:04:05,340 --> 01:04:08,700
Actually, I think I have a new I think I have a new favorite exclusive over there

650
01:04:09,020 --> 01:04:13,660
I checked out a little bit of this and then sammy told me I had to stop watching it because he wants to get me

651
01:04:13,660 --> 01:04:15,980
To react to it, but it is so funny

652
01:04:16,860 --> 01:04:20,140
LMG team members share their first meeting with me

653
01:04:20,780 --> 01:04:24,220
So we've got emily from the editing team mark from the editing team

654
01:04:24,540 --> 01:04:27,980
Vance the executive assistant and then nicole from hr

655
01:04:28,620 --> 01:04:34,780
And uh, excuse me. Um, what do they call? Oh bloody hell. What's the like custodian version of hr?

656
01:04:35,500 --> 01:04:38,780
Uh, culture and talent culture and talent department

657
01:04:39,580 --> 01:04:45,260
Custodian version. Yeah, like like custodian versus janitor receptionist versus secretary

658
01:04:46,220 --> 01:04:50,860
Culture and talent instead of hr You know, like, uh, yeah

659
01:04:51,580 --> 01:04:59,180
Sure Yeah, sure. All right. Anyway, people are loving this one. Uh, check it out at LMG.gg slash Floatplane

660
01:05:00,140 --> 01:05:05,180
Oh, we haven't even done a merge message yet, right? How do you send a merge message? You go on the store pick up something nice and in the cart

661
01:05:05,260 --> 01:05:11,660
You will see a little box to send a merge message to producer Dan who has been waiting

662
01:05:12,620 --> 01:05:18,540
Staged for this terminally online moment for lord only knows how long and

663
01:05:19,980 --> 01:05:26,140
And we'll give us a who will either reply to your message pop it up down there or curate it for me and luke to talk about

664
01:05:26,460 --> 01:05:31,260
I get me Dan. I get one occasionally. Why do you guys completely remove products from the website?

665
01:05:31,340 --> 01:05:38,140
I the tech bro or the workshop jacket it means there's no info and tech specs to reference for reselling or just product comparing in general

666
01:05:38,460 --> 01:05:45,020
Um, because it was confusing and made the site really cluttered for people who were shopping for stuff that we do have for sale

667
01:05:45,420 --> 01:05:52,460
However, when we I think there's a redesign coming up that will include an old product archive and we we are going to do that

668
01:05:53,660 --> 01:05:57,660
It's taking longer than I would like but I

669
01:05:57,660 --> 01:06:02,940
Don't know what to say other than things take time sometimes and I'm really sorry for that

670
01:06:04,060 --> 01:06:06,540
Hey DLL on launch day. I tried to buy a

671
01:06:07,340 --> 01:06:14,300
9070 xt while watching stock vanish. I accidentally bought a 9070 for 650 us dollars

672
01:06:15,420 --> 01:06:19,820
On new egg. Should I just cut my losses and return it or is this an okay price?

673
01:06:20,140 --> 01:06:24,380
I Was it 650 650

674
01:06:24,940 --> 01:06:31,820
Man, I do not love that card. Um, however, it's so hard to determine what an okay price is when nothing's in stock

675
01:06:31,900 --> 01:06:36,940
And all the price is just yo-yoing constantly like a big problem with the 9070 is the clock speed

676
01:06:37,340 --> 01:06:41,580
Like yeah, it's got fewer cu's and and all of that, but it has 16 gigs of RAM

677
01:06:42,220 --> 01:06:49,260
Um, and so a big part of the problem is the clock speed. I actually we didn't there was we don't have much time when it comes to launch

678
01:06:49,500 --> 01:06:54,460
Like launch embargo reviews. So I don't know if it over clocks like a bad out of hell

679
01:06:54,860 --> 01:06:57,020
like it's possible that that card could be

680
01:06:58,060 --> 01:07:02,140
a much more competent card than it reviewed as

681
01:07:02,780 --> 01:07:06,860
um, I don't love that card at that price and personally

682
01:07:07,500 --> 01:07:13,180
I still have not actually pulled the trigger on my 50 90 upgrade for this cycle because

683
01:07:13,820 --> 01:07:17,740
Um, I'm waiting to see if ploof actually doesn't go through with his order

684
01:07:18,060 --> 01:07:24,380
He has a pre-order in at best buy and He said he'd give it to me because he decided not to go through with it

685
01:07:24,380 --> 01:07:29,260
But I think he might change his mind still so I'm not going to hold him to it but um, I'll take that but I

686
01:07:29,900 --> 01:07:37,820
I got to be honest with you guys on principle and it's funny because I I often see people kind of getting on me about

687
01:07:38,380 --> 01:07:42,780
being rich and Sorry, what how did you phrase it?

688
01:07:42,860 --> 01:07:49,500
quite wealthy Okay, yeah, you want to talk shade mr. I'm gonna buy a plane

689
01:07:50,700 --> 01:07:52,700
I'm not talking shade. I'm not talking shade

690
01:07:53,900 --> 01:07:57,900
What I'm saying is What I'm saying is

691
01:08:01,340 --> 01:08:05,580
Sorry, you need a minute. You need a minute. I'm good. I'm good. So I'll often pee

692
01:08:05,660 --> 01:08:11,420
I'll often see people kind of come at me because I'll say like look no, that's expensive. I'm not gonna buy

693
01:08:12,140 --> 01:08:15,740
Yeah, the reality of it is I could buy a 50 90. I could buy a 50 90 right now

694
01:08:15,820 --> 01:08:21,580
I could go on ebay. I could buy a scalp 50 90, but that I'm not going to because that's lame

695
01:08:23,020 --> 01:08:25,820
Because I'm sitting here telling you guys

696
01:08:26,700 --> 01:08:34,380
Don't buy scalped GPU's Don't contribute to the crappiness of the GPU market by paying these prices. So

697
01:08:35,260 --> 01:08:39,100
What because I'm in a position where I can just afford to just buy it

698
01:08:39,260 --> 01:08:42,540
So then I just should how hypocritical would that be?

699
01:08:42,940 --> 01:08:47,420
And so I was looking at the uh, I was looking at the comments on the um, the macbook announcement video

700
01:08:47,820 --> 01:08:51,180
Where I was like, yeah, all this sucks. I bought mine at a bad time

701
01:08:51,660 --> 01:08:57,180
And half of it is people telling me to return it because I'm within 10 days, but guys movie magic

702
01:08:57,740 --> 01:09:02,380
Our video came out 10 days ago. I bought it like three weeks ago almost. So no, I can't return it

703
01:09:02,780 --> 01:09:07,100
Um, and then the other half was people telling me, you know, suck it up cry, baby

704
01:09:07,900 --> 01:09:10,860
You can afford to buy a new one anyway, and I can but that's not the point

705
01:09:10,940 --> 01:09:16,780
That doesn't change anything that doesn't change the fact that I bought it at a bad time because I got a last gen product

706
01:09:17,500 --> 01:09:21,660
Days before apple announced the new one and that sucks. Nobody likes that

707
01:09:23,020 --> 01:09:30,620
That sucks That's the whole point. Also. I just needed a hook for the intro for the video. I who cares like I literally

708
01:09:31,100 --> 01:09:34,460
When I was shopping for my macbook bought a last last gen one

709
01:09:34,460 --> 01:09:39,900
I bought an m2 because I knew that all I was going to do was word process on it and it wasn't going to matter anyway

710
01:09:40,540 --> 01:09:44,700
So I'm not actually right like I'm not actually mad. I just

711
01:09:45,340 --> 01:09:50,860
I just am saying a thing. I bought this at the wrong time and that blows it blows for anyone regardless of the money

712
01:09:52,220 --> 01:09:56,940
You got roasted recently at an event because people were like, well, why do you have the like crappy iphone?

713
01:09:56,940 --> 01:10:01,020
Oh the 16 plus that guy. Yeah. Yeah, remember. Yeah, because I like I don't know

714
01:10:01,180 --> 01:10:06,300
I've always as much as as much as you are. What did I say before fairly wealthy or whatever?

715
01:10:07,020 --> 01:10:09,580
I I've always appreciated that like, you know, you'll sit in

716
01:10:10,380 --> 01:10:14,940
You'll sit in economy. You'll you'll buy the lower end thing. You'll not scalp stuff like there's

717
01:10:15,180 --> 01:10:23,260
Well, it's the principle of the principles that you've stuck to. Yeah And the thing with this one is that this is the phone that I thought made the most sense

718
01:10:23,900 --> 01:10:30,540
in apple's 16 series lineup Yeah, I can afford a pro. Of course I can don't be ridiculous

719
01:10:31,180 --> 01:10:38,540
Literally, I bought a pro and a pro max or whatever the top spec one is they're sitting in a warehouse

720
01:10:38,940 --> 01:10:46,780
I literally bought them But this is was the one that I wanted to review the platform on because I thought that in terms of

721
01:10:47,660 --> 01:10:54,860
What people should actually be spending their money on this was one that made a lot more sense those features on the pro series

722
01:10:56,300 --> 01:10:59,900
Yeah, I appreciate a higher refresh rate display. Of course I do

723
01:11:00,780 --> 01:11:07,820
And I guess I'd love to be able to do a 3d scan of my room if the situation arises

724
01:11:08,940 --> 01:11:12,460
And usb 3 transfer speeds are better for the

725
01:11:12,940 --> 01:11:18,700
Once every couple months that I'll plug in and I'll do an over the cable backup of my photos or whatever

726
01:11:19,020 --> 01:11:26,460
But that's it I'm not going to pay hundreds of dollars more for that and I'm especially not going to recommend that someone else

727
01:11:26,860 --> 01:11:30,700
Pay hundreds of dollars more for that and I think that reviewing a product

728
01:11:31,020 --> 01:11:36,220
The way that I would actually recommend buying it is more useful. I think that's more meaningful

729
01:11:36,620 --> 01:11:44,620
It's kind of like um years ago. Actually Um anytime we would order a laptop alex would ask that instead of ordering the starting at configuration

730
01:11:45,020 --> 01:11:47,820
We order the minimum we would recommend

731
01:11:48,380 --> 01:11:54,140
Configuration so if starting at had four gigs of RAM or something we basically don't acknowledge that and we go

732
01:11:54,540 --> 01:11:59,580
No, this is not a 999 laptop. This is a 1299 laptop. It has 16 gigs of RAM and etc

733
01:12:00,380 --> 01:12:05,260
I think philosophically that that's something that I can get behind and it's something that I am trying to

734
01:12:05,580 --> 01:12:08,540
Continue to be behind. Yeah, not pretending. I can't afford it

735
01:12:09,340 --> 01:12:13,420
I mean you guys are you guys are gonna see some stuff over the next month or so of

736
01:12:14,860 --> 01:12:17,820
Just stuff that we could do for the memes

737
01:12:21,340 --> 01:12:23,340
You're gonna see some stuff

738
01:12:25,100 --> 01:12:27,100
Anyway

739
01:12:30,700 --> 01:12:33,820
The point is we have our challenges, but we're still we're still doing okay

740
01:12:35,900 --> 01:12:43,900
No, it is not gonna be a tech yacht. I promise it will not be a tech yacht tech blimp tech blimp. Yeah, sure

741
01:12:44,700 --> 01:12:47,980
Sure, let me get right on that. But one person in a laptop on it

742
01:12:48,700 --> 01:12:56,700
Oh Thanks, Dan. Uh, oh right. Did we ever do a second merge message? Yes. Oh wonderful. What am I supposed to do?

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Lies damned lies and then msrp

777
01:16:12,700 --> 01:16:18,780
bamboozled That was the guidance for the title and thumbnail. I was just reading Dan put it at the bottom of the dock

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under sponsors Okay, Dan

779
01:16:23,100 --> 01:16:32,780
What do you want to talk about next mr. Luke? Uh, let's let's cover the firefox terms rewrite because uh, we were we were a little kind of unsure about it last time

780
01:16:32,860 --> 01:16:39,900
I was pretty sure that's not what they meant at the very least So i'm happy that they have done this although. I haven't actually reviewed it. I'm assuming it's fine

781
01:16:40,220 --> 01:16:45,340
Mozilla has responded to user backlash over new firefox terms of use introduced last week

782
01:16:45,820 --> 01:16:52,860
rewriting the policy to Address the overly broad lang language. That's one way of saying it used in the original version

783
01:16:53,580 --> 01:17:00,380
which You know critics said the language implied that mozilla was asking for rights to any data input

784
01:17:01,100 --> 01:17:05,820
Or uploaded or anything uploaded through firefox, which is literally what it said

785
01:17:05,980 --> 01:17:11,420
So yep, uh, which raised concerns about data being sold to advertisers or used to train ai

786
01:17:11,980 --> 01:17:16,780
Mozilla claimed that the new terms didn't represent a change in the way that the company used data

787
01:17:16,940 --> 01:17:22,540
And that the company's ability to use collected data was still limited by a separate firefox privacy notice

788
01:17:23,020 --> 01:17:27,500
Two days after the initial uproar firefox product chief ajit varma

789
01:17:28,540 --> 01:17:38,140
Varma, yeah Announced that the terms of use have been rewritten to more clearly reflect the limited scope of how firefox interacts with user data

790
01:17:38,380 --> 01:17:43,820
And the new terms explicitly state that mozilla does not gain ownership of input content

791
01:17:44,380 --> 01:17:48,540
Uh discussion question. How diligent are you about reading terms and licenses for the apps you use?

792
01:17:49,420 --> 01:17:56,860
Not very I think it depends completely honest. I actually read an entire contract today for the first time in a while

793
01:17:57,340 --> 01:18:00,140
Oh, I read contracts all the time. Oh, I don't read

794
01:18:00,940 --> 01:18:06,380
Well, that included terms of service. So I guess yeah, but okay. Yeah, it was more of a sales sale contract

795
01:18:06,460 --> 01:18:12,700
So yeah, I read those for sure. I read every single one of those. I don't uh, when I'm signing stuff on behalf of the company

796
01:18:12,700 --> 01:18:15,820
I'm a lot more careful if I'm using like

797
01:18:16,940 --> 01:18:20,220
I don't know like discord, um

798
01:18:20,220 --> 01:18:24,540
I should because they're almost certainly like selling everything but yeah, I don't

799
01:18:26,060 --> 01:18:30,380
I don't know. Oh, they're probably not even selling it. I mean, aren't they just where are they based?

800
01:18:31,740 --> 01:18:35,500
I I think they have significant company ownership in china. Yeah, so they're

801
01:18:36,060 --> 01:18:39,900
Yeah, so they're just giving it to the chinese government. You know, don't even worry about them selling it

802
01:18:40,460 --> 01:18:43,260
Yeah, I don't know. Um

803
01:18:45,260 --> 01:18:49,180
Now I want to know who does own discord. You know by co-founders. I could be super wrong

804
01:18:51,100 --> 01:18:55,580
I thought there was a significant 10 cents. Oh 10 cents in there

805
01:18:56,620 --> 01:18:59,660
It says most likely has a majority stake. What does that mean?

806
01:19:01,340 --> 01:19:05,500
Nice Can you just tell me if it actually does or not? Nice

807
01:19:10,620 --> 01:19:14,620
I'm not a hundred percent certain because multiple sources say most likely

808
01:19:15,260 --> 01:19:19,980
I don't know what that means. Is it banned in china? Oh, it's blocked in china

809
01:19:21,740 --> 01:19:24,540
So it doesn't mean it's not funneling information

810
01:19:25,020 --> 01:19:28,700
That also doesn't mean that it's not owned by uh by chinese company

811
01:19:29,180 --> 01:19:34,860
It looks like there hasn't been a lot of conversation about this recently. So you know what? I'm just gonna I'm just gonna

812
01:19:34,940 --> 01:19:40,060
Un allegedly there. I said allegedly. I don't know. Well, they have some amount of stake

813
01:19:40,220 --> 01:19:44,300
10 cent seems to have some amount of stake in the company, but it's it's not very clear how much

814
01:19:46,380 --> 01:19:53,500
I don't know. Anyways, either way. Yeah, I I I read and have raised issues with actually many times

815
01:19:53,980 --> 01:19:59,580
Um contracts that the company has has signed including one very intense one with

816
01:20:00,380 --> 01:20:04,220
Yeah, I'll say it one with a sponsor where

817
01:20:05,500 --> 01:20:10,140
They were they were trying to give us information early, which would have been very helpful

818
01:20:10,700 --> 01:20:18,540
But I don't even know if you know about this But the contract included a line like three quarters through it that said that we couldn't say any disparaging comments about them ever

819
01:20:19,820 --> 01:20:23,820
And I was like No

820
01:20:23,820 --> 01:20:28,620
There's no way we're signing this. No, I think I did hear this one. I think I did hear this one

821
01:20:29,260 --> 01:20:32,620
You did that would have been hilarious. We would have just we would have just

822
01:20:33,260 --> 01:20:37,980
Unvatted like we would have had to yeah, we would have had to just say whatever we want because that's not how this works

823
01:20:38,460 --> 01:20:43,340
We would have had to break contracts. That's hilarious back to them and they're like, oh, like we're whatever I do anything

824
01:20:43,580 --> 01:20:47,340
Yeah, I was like, no, you're removing this like then you'll have no problem removing it

825
01:20:48,060 --> 01:20:52,940
Exactly. Yeah. Yeah Oh, that's great, which if I remember quickly

826
01:20:53,500 --> 01:20:56,940
I don't know that they did no they didn't I don't think they removed it ultimately

827
01:20:57,420 --> 01:21:02,700
Yeah, so we never signed it. Yeah now there's a man there's been all kinds of stuff like that that's like

828
01:21:03,340 --> 01:21:09,500
Stuff that we'd love to do that would be beneficial mutually beneficial like we had a we had a laptop company

829
01:21:10,380 --> 01:21:16,380
Um framework disclosure, but it wasn't framework. So whatever but we had a laptop company come to us recently and say hey

830
01:21:16,860 --> 01:21:23,340
Like we'd love to integrate more deeply with you guys get feedback on branding and product design

831
01:21:23,980 --> 01:21:28,380
And uh, you know, give you guys early looks at stuff so that you can kind of

832
01:21:28,860 --> 01:21:34,300
Help guide us because realistically we really do appreciate your feedback as a as independent media

833
01:21:34,700 --> 01:21:40,140
But the reality of it is by the time we get it the product's done. So there's not really anything we can do about it

834
01:21:40,460 --> 01:21:44,860
You know, well, how about this and I had the business team bring it to me and I basically was like

835
01:21:46,620 --> 01:21:50,060
I don't see what planet this can work on because

836
01:21:50,860 --> 01:21:53,660
I'm making the exact same gesture as my doppelganger here

837
01:21:56,460 --> 01:22:04,940
I don't see what planet this can work on because Either we do this for free, which is a complete fucking waste of our time because we're busy and we have a lot to do

838
01:22:05,500 --> 01:22:13,660
You know, it's not that we don't want to be helpful or whatever It's just like we can't make it a habit to just do consulting for free for everybody. That's ridiculous

839
01:22:14,300 --> 01:22:17,180
Um, so that's not an option and we can't take money for it

840
01:22:17,580 --> 01:22:23,820
Because even if they gave us a contract that was like, oh, yeah, you could totally say whatever you want

841
01:22:24,540 --> 01:22:28,140
We actually wouldn't be able to because anything that

842
01:22:28,780 --> 01:22:35,340
We were bound by that didn't make it into the final product, right? Like any of that decision-making process

843
01:22:36,300 --> 01:22:42,860
That we're privy to now because we're privy to it. We wouldn't be able to speculate on it without

844
01:22:43,100 --> 01:22:47,340
So Sort of violating the

845
01:22:47,820 --> 01:22:52,380
I mean at least the the spirit of the agreement like you can't like we couldn't um

846
01:22:53,420 --> 01:22:59,900
Man, imagine if we were doing a review Of this macbook and I'm going to use a far-fetched example

847
01:22:59,900 --> 01:23:05,100
So that I'm really not giving any hints because I promise you it wasn't apple talking to us about this apple doesn't talk to me

848
01:23:05,420 --> 01:23:08,140
um, if I was doing a review of this of this macbook like

849
01:23:09,020 --> 01:23:13,020
Imagine me knowing that I advised them that um

850
01:23:14,060 --> 01:23:17,500
I do actually like the keyboard. So again, I'm going to use an example that is not real

851
01:23:18,060 --> 01:23:24,300
Imagine if I advised them that the keyboard sucked and they shipped that sucky keyboard in spite of me saying that I didn't like it

852
01:23:24,620 --> 01:23:29,580
So now I'm sitting here doing my editorial review and I'm like, yeah, I told them this keyboard sucked

853
01:23:30,380 --> 01:23:33,180
But they shipped this anyway. So they're especially stupid

854
01:23:33,420 --> 01:23:38,060
Imagine the strain that that would put on the relationship. Even if I was allowed to say that that's like

855
01:23:38,940 --> 01:23:43,900
You're just in a position where things are like just not a good idea. Bizarre, you know, yeah

856
01:23:43,980 --> 01:23:49,660
Like it's it's it's not even like it's not even conflict of interest. It's just conflict. That's just

857
01:23:50,780 --> 01:23:56,380
That just doesn't work. Um, so I think I think that's come up probably half a dozen times over the years

858
01:23:56,380 --> 01:24:00,700
And every time I just kind of kick it back and just kind of go like how does this how does this make any sense?

859
01:24:00,780 --> 01:24:04,700
It doesn't make any sense In the particular example that I laid out as well

860
01:24:04,780 --> 01:24:09,500
The the thing that was kind of funny to me was that they were it was it was clearly more

861
01:24:10,140 --> 01:24:14,540
If we ignored the thing that I had to sign It was clearly more beneficial to them

862
01:24:14,780 --> 01:24:19,020
Like the thing that we would have been doing would have been better for them than it would have been for us

863
01:24:19,580 --> 01:24:25,580
So it's just kind of stupid But I think I think you know, they're just a pretty big company and they have one boilerplate thing

864
01:24:25,580 --> 01:24:29,900
And their lawyers just didn't want to change it So like the person I was talking to you understood, I get it

865
01:24:29,980 --> 01:24:33,260
But they they couldn't get the legal team. It probably would have cost 20 grand

866
01:24:33,660 --> 01:24:37,580
Because they probably would have had to take the entire agreement back to the law firm and like

867
01:24:38,380 --> 01:24:43,180
This is why I don't like involving lawyers and things and if you're a lawyer, whatever like nothing personal

868
01:24:43,260 --> 01:24:47,580
You got you got your expertise. You got to be paid for that. You got a job to do. I get it

869
01:24:49,420 --> 01:24:52,540
But I don't like talking to you. I don't like talking to you either

870
01:24:53,980 --> 01:24:59,020
Yeah Sorry, you know, I'm sorry nothing personal

871
01:24:59,580 --> 01:25:01,580
Uh, what do we want to talk about next?

872
01:25:03,980 --> 01:25:09,580
Should we do the dig thing? Yeah, let's do the dig thing digs coming back. What?

873
01:25:10,460 --> 01:25:15,180
Dig founder Kevin Rose and reddit co-founder, uh, alexis ohanian

874
01:25:15,660 --> 01:25:22,300
Sure have acquired dig with the intent of reviving the platform with a fresh vision to restore the spirit of discovery

875
01:25:22,540 --> 01:25:27,660
And genuine community that made the early web a fun and exciting place to be. Good luck with that

876
01:25:27,820 --> 01:25:34,220
I would love it if you can accomplish it dig launched in 2004 with its innovative user curated content system

877
01:25:34,460 --> 01:25:39,420
And quickly became the homepage of the internet for more than 40 million unique user view

878
01:25:40,060 --> 01:25:44,220
Visitors a month after a very poorly received redesign in 2010

879
01:25:44,460 --> 01:25:51,500
users abandoned the site in favor of reddit and by 2012 dig's unique visitor count was down 90 percent from its peak

880
01:25:51,820 --> 01:25:57,260
And the site and assets were sold off for less than 16 million dollars. Isn't that crazy to think like

881
01:25:57,900 --> 01:26:03,180
Absolutely crazy considering the heights that it was that nothing and dig was everything

882
01:26:03,740 --> 01:26:09,340
And practically overnight That was it. That's how fast platforms used to come and go and now

883
01:26:09,900 --> 01:26:13,980
I mean you've talked about this extensively. We don't have to reopen this can of worms, but it feels like

884
01:26:15,340 --> 01:26:23,500
Things are so permanent There the momentum is enormous for platforms now. Anyway, carry on. Sorry the motes are huge

885
01:26:23,580 --> 01:26:27,980
Like anyone attempting to attack youtube is going to lose like it just I don't know

886
01:26:28,060 --> 01:26:34,540
It is what it is Even even tickhawk like they're winning in a space, but they're they didn't win like youtube style vods

887
01:26:34,780 --> 01:26:41,260
No, and shorts even then youtube shorts are taking off more importantly. They didn't win the profitability

888
01:26:41,900 --> 01:26:47,100
of traditional vaude Like i'm sure tickhawk makes money, but the creators sure as heck don't

889
01:26:47,740 --> 01:26:55,580
yeah In a press release ohanian summed up the plans for the new site stating kevin and I are here to build something better

890
01:26:55,820 --> 01:27:04,220
than what social platforms are offering today AI should handle the grunt work in the background while humans focus on what they do best building real connections

891
01:27:04,540 --> 01:27:08,700
No one dreams of spending their day hunting down spam or playing content police

892
01:27:08,860 --> 01:27:14,220
They want to create connect and build thriving communities and i'm all in on this chapter

893
01:27:16,460 --> 01:27:21,660
Interesting so like AI content curation with humans just commenting on it, maybe

894
01:27:23,180 --> 01:27:27,980
I don't know It sounds like from that description that humans aren't even posting the links

895
01:27:31,500 --> 01:27:36,460
Um I should handle the grunt work in the background while you I don't know what that means building real connections

896
01:27:36,940 --> 01:27:40,620
No one dreams of spending their day hunting down spam or playing content police

897
01:27:40,860 --> 01:27:44,300
So no mod no active moderation. Yeah, I don't know what that means

898
01:27:44,860 --> 01:27:50,700
I don't know what that means either and because I didn't know what that meant I went to their website and I learned nothing

899
01:27:51,340 --> 01:27:55,820
at all it is It is completely

900
01:27:56,140 --> 01:27:58,140
useless

901
01:27:59,580 --> 01:28:04,860
Uh I mean that makes sense because it's not like they've had time to work on anything yet

902
01:28:05,260 --> 01:28:07,900
It's just an announcement of an intent to work on something

903
01:28:08,620 --> 01:28:13,660
No explainer of you know what it is. I don't know they have a little button that every time you click it

904
01:28:13,660 --> 01:28:17,580
It iterates by one. I mean I'd be down to give it a shot, but I just and it's not a lot

905
01:28:17,820 --> 01:28:21,660
Oh, there's so much there's so much of why I use reddit

906
01:28:22,220 --> 01:28:27,500
Is because of what's already there? Not because of what I want to be there in the future

907
01:28:29,500 --> 01:28:35,500
And that's true of youtube as well Which was another great example you gave of just like a platform with enormous inertia

908
01:28:36,940 --> 01:28:41,020
Yeah Conceptually, what is the difference between inertia and momentum?

909
01:28:42,220 --> 01:28:44,460
I guess momentum has to actually have

910
01:28:45,660 --> 01:28:49,420
um Well momentum

911
01:28:49,420 --> 01:28:54,780
But inertia is always uh an innate quality quantity. Anyway, it doesn't matter

912
01:28:56,700 --> 01:29:04,140
Different side same coin Momentum is defined as a tendency of a body to remain in motion

913
01:29:04,860 --> 01:29:09,980
Inertia is defined as a tendency for a body to oppose the change in its position

914
01:29:12,540 --> 01:29:16,540
So they're the same thing No

915
01:29:16,540 --> 01:29:25,020
No I mean they sound like the same value once you calculate in simple words momentum is your force or speed of movement

916
01:29:25,660 --> 01:29:27,660
And inertia is what keeps you going

917
01:29:29,420 --> 01:29:31,420
Mm-hmm

918
01:29:32,460 --> 01:29:35,660
What wouldn't your speed of movement in your mass be what keeps you going?

919
01:29:35,980 --> 01:29:41,740
No, because if you had an elephant that was stationary, mm-hmm It would have enormous inertia, but no momentum a lot of inertia

920
01:29:42,460 --> 01:29:44,460
But then if I wanted to

921
01:29:45,900 --> 01:29:51,740
I guess we could okay, so only if it's completely stationary inertness then it's inertia

922
01:29:53,420 --> 01:30:01,020
I guess that kind I can kind of get behind that If you had a very tiny thing that was moving very fast it would have a high inertia

923
01:30:09,020 --> 01:30:13,500
I don't think that's right I'm not going to worry about it. I'm bored. Um

924
01:30:14,300 --> 01:30:17,500
The best subscription ever just got more affordable

925
01:30:18,220 --> 01:30:25,180
YouTube premium light On march 5th youtube announced that they are adding a cheaper tier

926
01:30:25,580 --> 01:30:32,060
To the youtube premium lineup called premium light. It will cost eight dollars a month instead of 14 dollars

927
01:30:32,140 --> 01:30:40,460
But there are some differences You will not get access to downloading or background play on mobile background play

928
01:30:41,020 --> 01:30:44,460
Okay YouTube music

929
01:30:44,460 --> 01:30:49,500
music videos Shorts and the home page will still get ads

930
01:30:50,860 --> 01:30:53,020
And they also have a footnote saying that

931
01:30:53,900 --> 01:31:00,380
Most videos are ad-free such as gaming fashion beauty news and more

932
01:31:01,580 --> 01:31:03,820
So what am I actually getting?

933
01:31:04,940 --> 01:31:10,700
Well, you get no in-video like mid-roll and pre-roll ads it sounds like

934
01:31:11,340 --> 01:31:16,380
In most videos, but that does not include music videos

935
01:31:17,420 --> 01:31:25,260
shorts Or the home page and you don't get youtube music. This actually sounds like a terrible deal and you should just get the regular premium

936
01:31:25,820 --> 01:31:32,460
I also hate that it's it's Unclear so it feels like they can change it on me without even updating the terms

937
01:31:32,620 --> 01:31:35,980
Well, this basically sounds like they just can't afford the music licensing

938
01:31:36,540 --> 01:31:41,340
Because that's why you can't have background play like that's why background play costs because it's instead of spotify

939
01:31:41,580 --> 01:31:44,700
Right, you can just have youtube music videos playing in the background

940
01:31:45,260 --> 01:31:50,540
Um, so like I get it But also it just seems like not that compelling a value add because

941
01:31:51,420 --> 01:31:55,740
I don't know if I know a single adult working person in my life that doesn't have

942
01:31:56,460 --> 01:32:02,860
A spotify or youtube music or apple music or title or whatever like a music subscription. I really don't think I do

943
01:32:04,220 --> 01:32:10,860
So if you're gonna have one anyway Then you should just get youtube music because at this price difference of six dollars

944
01:32:11,180 --> 01:32:14,620
It's basically nothing and if you sign up as a family with some

945
01:32:15,580 --> 01:32:20,060
family Then honestly the difference in price is even smaller

946
01:32:20,620 --> 01:32:22,620
Uh to just get the full youtube premium

947
01:32:27,100 --> 01:32:29,100
Uh next, uh

948
01:32:32,220 --> 01:32:34,220
Correction for placebos

949
01:32:36,300 --> 01:32:43,100
Correction for the discussion about placebos on february 14th wandshow. Oh sure. This is pretty sure the skeptics guide featuring

950
01:32:43,100 --> 01:32:46,700
Yale associate professor and neurology doctor steven novella

951
01:32:47,900 --> 01:32:54,220
Reacted to our discussion about the placebo effect on the wandshow a couple weeks ago. Dr. novella pointed out a misleading uh, where'd it go?

952
01:32:55,660 --> 01:33:00,940
Uh a misleading sentence We said about the placebo effect and cancer survival rates

953
01:33:01,420 --> 01:33:06,300
And we'd like to issue a corrective statement Believe me you'll survive cancer improves your quality of life

954
01:33:06,300 --> 01:33:09,740
But it hasn't been shown to extend survival in cancer patients

955
01:33:10,060 --> 01:33:14,220
You can find more information at links down in the chat. Yeah, okay

956
01:33:14,780 --> 01:33:19,100
We unequivocally do not endorse companies and individuals who use placebo effect to push scant

957
01:33:19,100 --> 01:33:23,740
Oh, well obviously scam products and earn a profit from each other's unfortunate situations

958
01:33:24,060 --> 01:33:27,260
You guys know we hate scams. Did people think we did that? I don't know

959
01:33:27,980 --> 01:33:30,140
Not if they're acting in good faith, but maybe

960
01:33:31,020 --> 01:33:33,580
Yeah, we encourage you to always contact your health care professional

961
01:33:34,060 --> 01:33:37,020
Uh, if you have a medical situation also, I'll say this now and

962
01:33:37,660 --> 01:33:44,220
I don't know if we said this then or not Uh, we're not a medical podcast. We talk for four and a half hours sometimes

963
01:33:44,220 --> 01:33:47,340
So sometimes we're going to say some stuff about other things in our lives that aren't tech

964
01:33:48,460 --> 01:33:56,540
but Yeah, maybe go listen to the the Yale doctor guy and and not so much us and something that we do know

965
01:33:57,020 --> 01:34:02,460
Is that um having a good outlook can absolutely increase patient compliance

966
01:34:03,020 --> 01:34:06,620
And better patient compliance can absolutely impact outcomes

967
01:34:07,100 --> 01:34:11,740
No matter what the disease is So, yeah, maybe not directly

968
01:34:12,380 --> 01:34:17,260
But the main point of our conversation was just that if people maintain a positive outlook

969
01:34:17,340 --> 01:34:21,100
And if they think that things are working it can have a positive outcome

970
01:34:22,940 --> 01:34:27,580
The very very specifics my apologies if we were not correct there

971
01:34:28,380 --> 01:34:32,140
And we were never Obviously

972
01:34:32,140 --> 01:34:38,860
Never endorsing People selling placebos as real remedies and saying that like that's okay

973
01:34:39,580 --> 01:34:43,020
I think our main point was just that like

974
01:34:43,020 --> 01:34:50,540
It's a thing and that's why they get away with it because they sell you a placebo and then it is actually quite likely

975
01:34:50,620 --> 01:34:53,180
Depending on what ails you that you might feel better

976
01:34:54,380 --> 01:34:57,500
Um, and that's why it's so hard to nail these guys

977
01:34:58,460 --> 01:35:05,820
Microsoft is testing free office desktop ads. Sorry apps

978
01:35:07,020 --> 01:35:12,620
Wow I actually didn't mean to do that, but that was one heck of a Freudian slip. Wow

979
01:35:13,020 --> 01:35:15,500
Microsoft is testing a free desktop version

980
01:35:16,060 --> 01:35:20,940
Microsoft 365 When installing the productivity suite formally known as office

981
01:35:21,420 --> 01:35:27,420
Users that opt to skip signing in with a Microsoft account will be presented with the option to use word excel

982
01:35:27,580 --> 01:35:31,980
and powerpoint for free Of course, there's a catch or three

983
01:35:32,220 --> 01:35:39,580
It is ad supported with a persistent ad banner on the right side of the screen and every few hours

984
01:35:40,620 --> 01:35:44,060
This is great a 15 second video ad will play

985
01:35:44,620 --> 01:35:53,420
Although at least it can be muted It can only save to one drive and includes up to five gigabytes of storage as part of the free package

986
01:35:54,220 --> 01:35:57,020
Many features are missing. These are listed on b-bomb

987
01:35:57,820 --> 01:35:59,820
But the basics are there

988
01:36:00,940 --> 01:36:07,580
I've been warned b-bomb has lots of ads. Oh, wow. Boy. Do they ever that is a lot of ads my goodness

989
01:36:08,860 --> 01:36:14,540
Uh, what are the limitations where what parts of this are article and what parts of it are ads? Good lord

990
01:36:14,540 --> 01:36:19,180
I can earn roblox gift cards How to install

991
01:36:19,180 --> 01:36:24,300
Free editing features missing. Oh my goodness dictation line spacing

992
01:36:25,100 --> 01:36:27,740
Okay text box spacing

993
01:36:28,300 --> 01:36:34,620
Uh pivot charts. Okay pivot table. Oh boy. Okay. So they're quite cut down. Okay. So basically use

994
01:36:36,060 --> 01:36:38,060
Google's product I guess

995
01:36:39,180 --> 01:36:44,700
Uh, yeah, yeah, jordan prepared this he goes is this going to result in enough paid subs to be viable?

996
01:36:45,420 --> 01:36:49,740
Uh, and also asks is this for the seven people that are not aware of google docs?

997
01:36:50,460 --> 01:36:56,060
It it it Is kind of feeling that way a little bit kind of feeling that way a little bit. Yeah

998
01:36:57,020 --> 01:37:01,340
Ann M white and Floatplane chat says literally just get Libra office at that point like what are we even

999
01:37:01,660 --> 01:37:06,220
What are we even talking about here? This is a fun one

1000
01:37:06,780 --> 01:37:11,180
wacky foldables and other stuff at mobile world congress

1001
01:37:12,060 --> 01:37:15,580
Mwc ran this week from march 3rd to march 6th in

1002
01:37:16,380 --> 01:37:21,100
I'm gonna say this wrong barthelona. I think it's you're supposed to do it with a th sound, right?

1003
01:37:21,580 --> 01:37:26,140
I wish they would I wish they would just spell things the way that they're supposed to be said because

1004
01:37:26,620 --> 01:37:28,780
If you're gonna have an anglicized spelling anyway

1005
01:37:30,860 --> 01:37:35,420
Why not in good faith try to spell it in a way that makes it

1006
01:37:36,140 --> 01:37:40,780
spelled like it founds Barthelona, I don't know. I don't think that is

1007
01:37:41,660 --> 01:37:49,340
I think it's just spelled the same way in spanish Which is probably why it sounds different than it's spelled. Well, then give me an anglicized spelling like everything else

1008
01:37:50,940 --> 01:37:55,500
Anyway, we're supposed to rapid fire react to each device

1009
01:37:57,100 --> 01:37:59,820
And give it a one to ten score. All right

1010
01:38:00,300 --> 01:38:05,020
So first up is the Lenovo think book flip ai

1011
01:38:05,660 --> 01:38:09,740
prototype A mega two-in-one

1012
01:38:10,220 --> 01:38:13,980
Oh My gosh

1013
01:38:13,980 --> 01:38:15,980
This is from pc meg.com

1014
01:38:17,500 --> 01:38:23,900
um Whoa, okay, we should decide we should decide what our scale means

1015
01:38:24,460 --> 01:38:27,980
uh So is this out of ten in terms of like

1016
01:38:28,700 --> 01:38:32,540
Would I buy it or would I use it because those

1017
01:38:32,860 --> 01:38:37,900
Definitely are not the same thing in this case like if somebody gave this to me for free

1018
01:38:38,620 --> 01:38:40,860
I feel like I might consider using it

1019
01:38:41,900 --> 01:38:48,060
It looks like a joke It looks like a it looks like it's photoshopped. It looks it looks like a meme

1020
01:38:48,940 --> 01:38:57,260
um Okay The outer display can flip up to become a large vertical display

1021
01:38:57,660 --> 01:39:02,220
So it kind of goes in it looks. Yeah, there you go. There's a there's a better shot of it

1022
01:39:03,500 --> 01:39:07,820
Wow, also, this is like the ugliest hotel room

1023
01:39:08,380 --> 01:39:13,260
um But great job pc mag for making it work. It kind of works

1024
01:39:13,980 --> 01:39:15,980
Luke, what's your rating?

1025
01:39:17,100 --> 01:39:21,740
Uh, so again, sorry, what are what are we doing it based on if we would use it or if we'd buy it?

1026
01:39:23,500 --> 01:39:28,220
You wouldn't buy anything. So let's go with if we buy it. I might buy something. We'll see

1027
01:39:28,700 --> 01:39:34,620
How about if you would use it for work? I use if this was our standard of this laptop. I would

1028
01:39:35,580 --> 01:39:39,020
I would use out of 10 out of 10. I would unfold it. Um

1029
01:39:39,980 --> 01:39:45,260
Would I use it out of 10? I would definitely use it like you wouldn't ask for something else because we could give you something else

1030
01:39:45,900 --> 01:39:50,140
Would you prefer it? I wouldn't

1031
01:39:50,140 --> 01:39:55,820
This is sounding like a six Yeah, I think it might be a six or a seven because I travel with an extra screen

1032
01:39:56,780 --> 01:39:59,500
Okay, and this is just an extra screen, but

1033
01:40:00,380 --> 01:40:03,740
slightly less cool because it's up

1034
01:40:03,740 --> 01:40:05,980
How are you gonna use this on a plane like?

1035
01:40:06,860 --> 01:40:10,540
I just don't think you would do buddy behind you. He's gonna lean their seat back

1036
01:40:11,980 --> 01:40:16,940
I mean, I guess it wouldn't break it though because it's bendable. I think it bends the other way. So it absolutely

1037
01:40:17,580 --> 01:40:23,740
Oh, yeah, right Well, to be fair though, it wouldn't crunch under because it would go all the way to the top of the seat

1038
01:40:24,140 --> 01:40:26,540
You'd have to like pull their hair off of it

1039
01:40:27,900 --> 01:40:31,180
Yeah Yeah, I'd give it a six. I think

1040
01:40:32,620 --> 01:40:34,620
I don't think I can go higher than a four

1041
01:40:35,740 --> 01:40:38,620
I would definitely use it in like hotel rooms and stuff. I would use it

1042
01:40:41,900 --> 01:40:43,900
All right, let's go

1043
01:40:48,460 --> 01:40:53,260
Next up is the Lenovo magic bay dual display concept

1044
01:40:54,700 --> 01:40:59,820
Here we go. This is from digital trends Oh, this looks more like your style luke

1045
01:41:00,540 --> 01:41:06,780
It sure does Two screens or one it's up to you

1046
01:41:08,300 --> 01:41:15,020
The thing that gets me with this stuff is it's really not much harder to just have an external display and a normal laptop

1047
01:41:15,980 --> 01:41:22,860
So external so this uses special external displays that use Lenovo's magic bay connection

1048
01:41:23,260 --> 01:41:28,940
To add either two 13 inch screens or a single vertical eight inch screen

1049
01:41:29,900 --> 01:41:33,740
It uses pogopins and magnets. It's a proprietary connector. So

1050
01:41:35,020 --> 01:41:37,740
You can't just carry it to the next one and I've been using the same

1051
01:41:38,300 --> 01:41:42,620
Uh, I've been using the same external screen for two different laptops so far

1052
01:41:43,580 --> 01:41:48,540
You won't be doing that here. Exactly. So like the buying of this very low

1053
01:41:49,180 --> 01:41:54,540
Um, the using of this at least one of the external displays probably like a seven

1054
01:41:54,860 --> 01:42:00,460
Very how much do you think that drives the design of these products because if I'm a Lenovo and I'm targeting businesses

1055
01:42:00,940 --> 01:42:04,860
Do I care at all if luke the individual would buy this?

1056
01:42:05,260 --> 01:42:10,940
Maybe not because I don't need to buy you care a lot that you might get lock in to the it team

1057
01:42:11,340 --> 01:42:16,460
Yeah, because of this because luke's company bought it for him that you have and luke likes it

1058
01:42:17,020 --> 01:42:20,940
And we'll complain to it if he doesn't get one again or whatever, right?

1059
01:42:21,580 --> 01:42:25,740
Or if the new laptop doesn't have those screens Oh boy

1060
01:42:25,740 --> 01:42:29,180
Lenovo yoga solar pc concept

1061
01:42:30,460 --> 01:42:36,620
solar It's a solar pc con solar panels on the lid

1062
01:42:38,140 --> 01:42:43,340
um Oh, okay. How well do they work when they have?

1063
01:42:44,220 --> 01:42:52,460
horrible Line of sight they claim or it's covered in stickers. They claim that even in low light conditions

1064
01:42:53,580 --> 01:42:58,220
The panel can generate enough power to sustain the battery charge when the pc is idle

1065
01:42:58,780 --> 01:43:01,660
They also claim that with enough direct sunlight

1066
01:43:02,220 --> 01:43:06,540
20 minutes of exposure can power up to one hour of video playback

1067
01:43:07,180 --> 01:43:10,140
With a long disclaimer on this claim

1068
01:43:14,700 --> 01:43:21,420
What do you think this feels like uh, this feels like a three to me a two like

1069
01:43:23,100 --> 01:43:29,900
They know battery banks exist, right? Like if I wanted to carry like solar panels, they're gonna add weight

1070
01:43:30,460 --> 01:43:34,140
To this thing. I have to carry them around all the time and i'm gonna use them

1071
01:43:34,780 --> 01:43:39,500
Sometimes how often do you like use it outside involved with it also adds more weight?

1072
01:43:40,220 --> 01:43:43,900
Uh, often you use it outside is a big question often use it outside

1073
01:43:44,460 --> 01:43:51,340
Indirect line of sight of the sun when you're not like putting it so far folded back that it's not going to see the sun at all anyways

1074
01:43:51,820 --> 01:43:53,820
Yeah, exactly. Um

1075
01:43:56,140 --> 01:44:03,660
And then you can't put stickers on the back like Dan said Okay, I don't know if that's a major consideration, but that matters a lot in my field Linus. Okay

1076
01:44:04,380 --> 01:44:08,780
How will they know I use arch this needs to be taken seriously. I'm sorry. I'm sorry

1077
01:44:09,740 --> 01:44:11,980
Have you ever been have you ever been to an it conference?

1078
01:44:13,180 --> 01:44:15,580
Everyone's the back of their laptops are covered in stickers

1079
01:44:16,940 --> 01:44:19,260
I'm sorry. I brought it up see the chat

1080
01:44:20,780 --> 01:44:27,740
You also sell stickers Oh goodness more from Lenovo this time from tom's hardware

1081
01:44:29,900 --> 01:44:33,740
A USB-C connected 32 tops npu

1082
01:44:34,460 --> 01:44:41,500
That's right my friends Instead of purchasing an ai laptop you could get a regular laptop

1083
01:44:42,460 --> 01:44:44,460
and add ai

1084
01:44:46,220 --> 01:44:48,220
By USB-C

1085
01:44:50,380 --> 01:44:52,380
I think this is a zero for me

1086
01:44:59,420 --> 01:45:07,660
Wow At least for my laptop like if I had like um, like I think I actually have a similar little usb ai dongle in my server right now

1087
01:45:07,740 --> 01:45:11,980
because we're using it for training for a um

1088
01:45:12,700 --> 01:45:18,380
Like a machine vision project or something like that, but in terms of the pitch of this it's Thunderbolt. Oh my god

1089
01:45:18,940 --> 01:45:24,380
Okay, so you're not plugging into anything that matters. Oh, what's gonna have thunderbolts? Okay, it's too anemic

1090
01:45:25,500 --> 01:45:27,980
32 tops not enough for you, huh? Yeah. Yeah

1091
01:45:28,860 --> 01:45:36,620
All right. Okay. Here we go Infinix zero series mini trifold concept

1092
01:45:37,660 --> 01:45:42,060
This is on tech radar Da da da da da

1093
01:45:42,700 --> 01:45:46,220
No Really just straight up. No

1094
01:45:47,020 --> 01:45:50,300
No You're not even gonna give me a number

1095
01:45:50,860 --> 01:45:55,900
zero Zero oh man. This is like a four maybe a maybe a one

1096
01:45:56,060 --> 01:46:01,340
I could do this being like you're gonna deal with the glee of unfolding this the whole way because it's not just a flip

1097
01:46:01,500 --> 01:46:06,300
It's not one movement. You have to I think you have to like pull the thing apart. It looks super annoying

1098
01:46:06,860 --> 01:46:11,500
But look I could clip it to my backpack

1099
01:46:11,740 --> 01:46:13,740
From lttstore.com

1100
01:46:14,860 --> 01:46:19,420
Yeah, no, right Yeah, look, I'm just saying I could

1101
01:46:20,460 --> 01:46:27,180
I'm treating a five like a neutral. Okay So I I'm like below neutral like I don't want it. I don't want it

1102
01:46:28,780 --> 01:46:30,780
I would actively dislike this

1103
01:46:32,060 --> 01:46:37,740
If I was given a new one of these I would use my my old pixel that I don't like over it

1104
01:46:38,460 --> 01:46:43,020
All right next it just looks very annoying to use most of the time when I'm looking something on my phone

1105
01:46:43,260 --> 01:46:47,580
I want it fast and then I want to put the phone away I don't want to just like

1106
01:46:47,580 --> 01:46:51,740
Oh, let me let me unfold this twice so I can get a full actual phone

1107
01:46:51,820 --> 01:46:54,940
And then go through and check things and then fold it two more times to put it back down

1108
01:46:54,940 --> 01:47:01,020
And then it's a massive brick in my pocket and I can put it away. That's so annoying. I don't okay this time from the verge

1109
01:47:02,220 --> 01:47:08,860
Infinix Zero series. Oh, we shoot so no Infinix solar energy reserving technology

1110
01:47:09,420 --> 01:47:16,140
Uses perovskite Solar cells which are thinner and cheaper than traditional silicon solar cells

1111
01:47:16,940 --> 01:47:21,180
um Its current iteration was able to deliver two watts of charging

1112
01:47:22,300 --> 01:47:24,940
Being able to just like huck your phone onto

1113
01:47:25,900 --> 01:47:30,780
Like a like a car mount or something and get charged with the sun coming through the dash

1114
01:47:30,780 --> 01:47:35,660
I mean, I yeah, I could see that be kind of useful while you don't use magsafe and just plug in a cable. I don't know but um

1115
01:47:36,780 --> 01:47:40,860
That's something It's cool if you're

1116
01:47:41,500 --> 01:47:45,740
Outside somewhere and you put your phone face down on a table and it charges it

1117
01:47:46,380 --> 01:47:53,020
I think it's pretty sweet Yeah, I'd be into this mentioned overheating problems. I would be interested to see. Oh, yeah

1118
01:47:53,660 --> 01:47:59,580
How that goes? All right next up. I like it though. Whoa. Shall me buds five pro

1119
01:48:00,860 --> 01:48:04,780
Now they might look like just regular, you know

1120
01:48:05,900 --> 01:48:10,860
AirPods clones But they can stream music over wi-fi

1121
01:48:11,100 --> 01:48:18,460
They utilize qualcom's expanded personal area network to provide audio at up to 96 kilohertz 24 bit

1122
01:48:19,740 --> 01:48:26,220
Up to 4.2 megabit per second exceeding bluetooth bandwidth and if wi-fi is not available they switch back to bluetooth mode

1123
01:48:27,020 --> 01:48:29,020
That's pretty cool. They look bulky though

1124
01:48:32,060 --> 01:48:35,340
I don't care

1125
01:48:35,340 --> 01:48:39,180
Okay, as a dub said on flow plane no solar panels on them two out of ten

1126
01:48:41,820 --> 01:48:46,460
Okay I just like I don't know

1127
01:48:48,220 --> 01:48:53,900
If I'm at home, it's not like I don't have my phone on me if I'm not at home. I'm pretty much not using wi-fi

1128
01:48:56,460 --> 01:49:00,380
I don't know do they use wi-fi direct though because if they could do that then that's cool

1129
01:49:00,620 --> 01:49:03,900
I think it means that they're using wi-fi to the phone

1130
01:49:04,940 --> 01:49:09,900
Yeah, I think so. I think that's what it means not all devices handle wi-fi to multiple

1131
01:49:10,620 --> 01:49:19,980
Points very well though Like I I realized using the mac as my daily driver that you can't internet connections share your wi-fi connection on this

1132
01:49:20,060 --> 01:49:27,500
So I use that feature on Windows for flights I'll buy one in flight pass and then I'll share it with everyone that i'm with or with my phone

1133
01:49:27,820 --> 01:49:30,940
Like with my multiple devices and I can't do that on the mac

1134
01:49:31,900 --> 01:49:36,780
Which kind of blows like it can share it can internet connection share if you plug in a wired connection

1135
01:49:36,780 --> 01:49:43,260
And then you share over wi-fi it can do that, but it can't wi-fi share its wi-fi connection as far as I can tell

1136
01:49:44,540 --> 01:49:48,540
Here's another one This is

1137
01:49:48,540 --> 01:49:54,780
Wait, wait, where is it? Ah, here we go. Yes the samsung flex gaming concept

1138
01:49:57,100 --> 01:50:00,940
Hold on someone's hold on someone says yes, you can over bluetooth

1139
01:50:02,060 --> 01:50:05,660
Well, what am I connecting to it via bluetooth?

1140
01:50:07,740 --> 01:50:10,700
Might be able to with a usb wi-fi that yeah, I'm not doing that

1141
01:50:13,900 --> 01:50:15,900
Bluetooth wi-fi sharing

1142
01:50:17,260 --> 01:50:24,940
Man I I swear I googled this and I did not find it and I went into I had to like go deep into the settings and enable

1143
01:50:25,660 --> 01:50:29,100
internet connection sharing in some some submenu somewhere

1144
01:50:29,580 --> 01:50:37,340
And then it just didn't offer me the option Well, what I will say then at the very least is it's much easier in Windows. You just click a button

1145
01:50:37,900 --> 01:50:40,140
Just like you would on your phone or whatever

1146
01:50:41,420 --> 01:50:45,100
Okay, so looking at this next device. Have you have you brought it up yet? There you go

1147
01:50:45,740 --> 01:50:51,100
Looking at this next device It looks like the thumbsticks have to go into the holes on the other side

1148
01:50:51,580 --> 01:50:54,780
and the ab x y and left right up down

1149
01:50:55,500 --> 01:50:59,820
are like the slanted sides of the holes, which is

1150
01:51:00,460 --> 01:51:06,540
Horrible. Yeah, this is just a concept. This is not a real product. It's a cool idea. It's a cool concept

1151
01:51:08,300 --> 01:51:12,060
I don't want to use the arrow keys or ab x y at all ever

1152
01:51:13,020 --> 01:51:15,820
but It's a cool concept

1153
01:51:18,700 --> 01:51:23,260
So you have to thumb the holes Yeah, I think I think you like put your thumb in the hole and then have to like

1154
01:51:23,740 --> 01:51:27,820
Hit the side of the button Yeah, I'm not into that at all

1155
01:51:28,780 --> 01:51:33,180
I don't think so. Yeah, it might end up being okay, but I don't think I would like it

1156
01:51:33,740 --> 01:51:38,620
Yeah, I think I would dislike it so much that I would not use it. I wouldn't buy it

1157
01:51:39,020 --> 01:51:41,900
However, if you could if you could give me something where like

1158
01:51:42,380 --> 01:51:46,540
The thumbsticks or like a pop it or something and I can like push them in and I can just fold it flat

1159
01:51:46,540 --> 01:51:49,660
And have decent buttons or something I I could I could maybe get into that

1160
01:51:49,980 --> 01:51:56,540
I would like to be able to fold my My handheld gaming device because I do get sketched out about them when traveling

1161
01:51:56,860 --> 01:51:59,660
And if I could avoid having like a big carrying case for it

1162
01:52:01,020 --> 01:52:05,580
Um And could just fold it and then the like if I had a nice case on the back of it

1163
01:52:06,140 --> 01:52:10,860
That'd be pretty sick 80 dub and Floatplane chat says now I can rage quit like I'm hanging up on my boss

1164
01:52:12,140 --> 01:52:22,140
Yeah, sweet. I love it Okay, our last one is the samsung trifold smartphone concept called the asymmetric flip

1165
01:52:22,620 --> 01:52:25,180
for now similar to the galaxy z flip

1166
01:52:26,140 --> 01:52:28,140
But with two fold points

1167
01:52:30,220 --> 01:52:34,060
Like Why oh god

1168
01:52:34,780 --> 01:52:39,340
Why hmm Okay

1169
01:52:40,380 --> 01:52:42,380
Why yeah, well, that's

1170
01:52:43,820 --> 01:52:46,460
Something that someone why not just fold it in half

1171
01:52:47,500 --> 01:52:53,420
I mean it's a concept. These are concepts and like concept cars they're gonna include things that

1172
01:52:54,220 --> 01:52:59,020
Don't make it to market and that's the things we looked at. That's all of them

1173
01:53:00,060 --> 01:53:03,820
Cool. Um nice last week tech radar said

1174
01:53:06,860 --> 01:53:12,860
Built or published an article titled built versus bought why pre-built systems are always

1175
01:53:13,420 --> 01:53:21,100
superior to custom gaming PCs Uh, it starts by giving some background on zack as someone who loves to build rigs and even encourages people to keep building them

1176
01:53:21,420 --> 01:53:25,260
before immediately 180 and saying the following

1177
01:53:25,660 --> 01:53:32,060
The honest truth is that unless you're an it god who spent years pruning over every little detail of system building with

1178
01:53:32,220 --> 01:53:35,100
Intimate knowledge of all the latest and greatest hardware and its caveats

1179
01:53:36,140 --> 01:53:42,380
You're just not going to be able to compete with a consummate professional whose day job it is is to build gaming PCs

1180
01:53:42,860 --> 01:53:47,180
It's like comparing your dad's famous chili cone carring recipe to gordon ramsey's

1181
01:53:47,820 --> 01:53:51,420
The article does highlight some real issues from building your own pc

1182
01:53:51,900 --> 01:53:56,300
such as that it can be tough to get stock of the latest and greatest if that's what you're after especially because

1183
01:53:56,860 --> 01:54:01,900
SIs can often have deals that guarantee them better stock on those parts, although as we discussed earlier, not always

1184
01:54:02,700 --> 01:54:06,700
It also talks about qc from system integration integrators, which yes

1185
01:54:07,180 --> 01:54:10,860
Can be a big advantage to making sure that your computer arrives in working conditions

1186
01:54:11,500 --> 01:54:15,260
But if you've ever seen our secret shopper series, you'll know that qc can miss things

1187
01:54:15,740 --> 01:54:21,580
Including things that zack highlights that you won't have to worry about like BIOS updates cable management cooling and overclocking

1188
01:54:22,460 --> 01:54:25,340
There is one more comparison at the end of the article and I quote

1189
01:54:26,140 --> 01:54:31,100
It's like your car, right You're always going to get the folk who go around and build their own tweak the ones

1190
01:54:31,100 --> 01:54:34,700
They've got and get ridiculous horsepower out of an engine in ways that shouldn't be possible

1191
01:54:35,100 --> 01:54:39,340
Usually for some ridiculous investment of time or some of money along the way

1192
01:54:39,740 --> 01:54:44,540
Or alternatively you could save the drama and just buy a 400 horsepower ev or whatever your engine of choice is

1193
01:54:44,940 --> 01:54:49,180
Straight off the shop floor with few issues of any and do 100 miles per hour in less than five seconds

1194
01:54:49,820 --> 01:54:53,180
and quote Elijah puts in here

1195
01:54:53,180 --> 01:54:58,300
I found this quote funny because Jake t and I looked and there's no such thing as a 400 horsepower ev that can do that

1196
01:54:59,340 --> 01:55:03,740
um Our discussion question here is

1197
01:55:04,460 --> 01:55:07,500
As easy as it is to see the headline and possibly get upset

1198
01:55:08,220 --> 01:55:12,300
Can you think of any other reasons that pre-builds are better?

1199
01:55:14,700 --> 01:55:18,140
I would say the main one for me comes down to support after the fact

1200
01:55:18,460 --> 01:55:21,980
Like if their support sucks, then I see no reason to buy pre-built whatsoever

1201
01:55:21,980 --> 01:55:29,740
But if their support is good or offers Um types of support that you need like if you're buying it as a business and you need on site service, um

1202
01:55:30,380 --> 01:55:32,540
You know, I could see a pre-built making sense for that

1203
01:55:34,140 --> 01:55:39,340
Um, otherwise, I don't know man. I do think things can be very confusing and we do rail against

1204
01:55:39,340 --> 01:55:45,100
sort of the the misleading naming schemes that manufacturers use and um

1205
01:55:46,620 --> 01:55:50,300
The way that specs get obfuscated more and more and more pre-builds

1206
01:55:51,340 --> 01:55:57,740
But yeah, that's the thing is I think I don't see the difference between talking to an si and asking them to advise me

1207
01:55:58,300 --> 01:56:05,580
On buying a pre-built pc or talking to a sales rep at a computer part store and asking them to advise me on building a computer and honestly

1208
01:56:07,180 --> 01:56:11,260
I think comparing um, you know

1209
01:56:11,420 --> 01:56:15,100
As someone who builds computers to gordon ramsey

1210
01:56:16,140 --> 01:56:19,580
is like kind of ridiculous

1211
01:56:19,740 --> 01:56:25,820
Yeah Maybe maybe you're comparing it to like the gordon ramsey restaurant in the airport

1212
01:56:29,980 --> 01:56:36,700
Building computers like it's not as easy as some people make it out to be if you have never done it or you don't do it on the regular but

1213
01:56:37,660 --> 01:56:42,780
It isn't rocket science and I've gotten the kick out of like si's over the years that will

1214
01:56:43,340 --> 01:56:45,740
introduce their like their system builders as like

1215
01:56:46,460 --> 01:56:50,540
pc engineers or like system

1216
01:56:50,540 --> 01:56:55,500
system building engineers or whatever like here in canada engineer is a protected term you actually have to like

1217
01:56:55,980 --> 01:57:00,220
Have an education up to a standard to call yourself an engineer

1218
01:57:00,620 --> 01:57:03,580
But in other places it's not necessarily the case and there is

1219
01:57:04,220 --> 01:57:10,220
Nothing engineer about configuring a computer and putting it together. That's not engineering

1220
01:57:10,940 --> 01:57:16,380
um So yeah, it can be a little bit challenging when you're just getting your feet wet

1221
01:57:16,460 --> 01:57:21,900
But no, I don't think I can agree with this headline and I I and yeah, it's not engineering

1222
01:57:22,380 --> 01:57:26,700
I think it's time for us to move on to after dark because I have a place that I need to be that I kind of

1223
01:57:27,340 --> 01:57:32,460
Let get away from me seven minutes time wise. So uh, what what do we got in the in the

1224
01:57:32,780 --> 01:57:36,460
Curated birch messages. Oh Dan didn't curate too many this week. So

1225
01:57:37,660 --> 01:57:43,820
Let's go good work Yeah, we had a a lighter week than last week. I'll uh, I'll put it that way

1226
01:57:44,300 --> 01:57:47,020
Although I think every week is light compared to last week

1227
01:57:50,620 --> 01:57:52,620
All right, I have to do the magenta

1228
01:57:54,300 --> 01:57:58,460
Uh, let's see. What do we got? What do we got? Um, to Linus

1229
01:57:59,180 --> 01:58:07,420
What's the deal with not reviewing 12 gig cards on 4k developers should be able to add uncompressed textures without meaning

1230
01:58:07,980 --> 01:58:11,660
12 gigs is not enough for 4k. I play at 12 gigs and it looks great

1231
01:58:19,660 --> 01:58:26,140
I can't hear I can't he's muted. He's sorry. Um, we discussed this in our 90 70 and 90 70 x t review

1232
01:58:26,620 --> 01:58:29,980
And I forget what the game was was it last of us or

1233
01:58:31,740 --> 01:58:35,340
Crud I really don't remember but basically we we

1234
01:58:36,460 --> 01:58:39,980
highlighted some lag spikes that we were getting on the

1235
01:58:41,180 --> 01:58:48,060
The rtx 50 70 the 12 gig card that were not present on any of our 16 gig cards

1236
01:58:49,740 --> 01:58:52,940
Regardless of how much raw horsepower they had

1237
01:58:53,420 --> 01:58:56,860
And so for us the fact that that's a problem

1238
01:58:57,660 --> 01:59:01,660
right now today

1239
01:59:03,580 --> 01:59:05,580
Indicates to us that

1240
01:59:06,780 --> 01:59:14,380
The these these cards are not in the in the midterm even going to be suitable for 4k AAA gaming

1241
01:59:14,860 --> 01:59:19,500
And you know if we're talking about running league of legends at 4k or whatever then yeah, sure

1242
01:59:19,660 --> 01:59:23,260
But was it really a question if you're buying a 12 gig card

1243
01:59:23,820 --> 01:59:34,620
If league of legends was going to run probably not So you know for us the point of a review is not necessarily to show you exactly what FPS every game under the sun will run at

1244
01:59:34,620 --> 01:59:38,940
That's not what we're trying to achieve. What we are trying to achieve is to

1245
01:59:40,060 --> 01:59:43,900
contextualize The relative performance of these cards

1246
01:59:44,620 --> 01:59:47,900
And their relative price so you can make an informed decision

1247
01:59:48,780 --> 01:59:53,020
It's not the be all and end all if you want to know how that card runs an exact game

1248
01:59:53,020 --> 01:59:56,860
There's lots of channels out there that will upload like gameplay footage with FPS counters

1249
01:59:57,100 --> 02:00:00,140
Or there's lots of other reviewers out there that will have a different test suite

1250
02:00:00,300 --> 02:00:03,180
And you should absolutely go out and seek out those additional resources

1251
02:00:03,500 --> 02:00:09,100
We're just trying to give you the thousand foot view of how these cards compete with each other and in general

1252
02:00:09,180 --> 02:00:12,300
No, I don't think that moving forward. We can recommend

1253
02:00:12,940 --> 02:00:15,260
12 gig cards for 4k gaming

1254
02:00:16,220 --> 02:00:21,980
My guys wondering what your favorite tape-to-tape characters and perks are I'm hooked on the game

1255
02:00:22,780 --> 02:00:27,100
Oh, um I had oh dude. I had one run that I was using

1256
02:00:27,820 --> 02:00:29,820
Gawain Garetsky

1257
02:00:31,500 --> 02:00:36,780
Yeah, he's this knight character that levels up as you make your way through the different bosses

1258
02:00:37,420 --> 02:00:42,780
And uh, we basically put every perk on him so that as he got bigger and slower

1259
02:00:43,260 --> 02:00:46,380
He was still fast and he was a were you in that run luke?

1260
02:00:47,180 --> 02:00:51,420
Yeah, you were he was Comically tanky

1261
02:00:51,420 --> 02:00:54,460
Um, and then he also has the headshot redirect ability

1262
02:00:54,460 --> 02:01:02,300
Which is by far the most broken ability in the game Because you just you slap shot to one of your allies and they just like

1263
02:01:02,940 --> 02:01:05,500
Header like in soccer they header the puck into the net

1264
02:01:05,980 --> 02:01:09,900
And so you can just be racing up the wing have one of your allies go up the other wing

1265
02:01:10,380 --> 02:01:18,140
He was completely tanky. No one could even touch him We had the body check while while skating with the puck ability and I think we had the body armor on him

1266
02:01:18,140 --> 02:01:23,980
So if anyone even tried to Check him, they would get knocked over so I could just basically charge up the ice

1267
02:01:24,540 --> 02:01:28,860
Whack it off of luke's head. What do we get like 20 20 goals on the final boss?

1268
02:01:28,860 --> 02:01:35,900
We got 12 goals in the first period Yeah, final boss. Yeah, it was not even over 20. It was not even close

1269
02:01:36,860 --> 02:01:42,140
That that's the most broken run that we've done so far. I think yeah, yeah

1270
02:01:42,940 --> 02:01:46,700
I have a super broken run that I'm in the middle of right now, and I'm not finishing it on my own

1271
02:01:46,780 --> 02:01:50,540
I'm just on the first world, but dude. It is completely broken

1272
02:01:50,620 --> 02:01:55,500
I fossilized star for plus 20 speed on all my bench warmers. I got um

1273
02:01:56,140 --> 02:01:58,620
Gross serum growth serum. So everyone's big

1274
02:01:59,260 --> 02:02:04,060
And I got like a couple other things basically my bench warmers all have superstar stats

1275
02:02:05,020 --> 02:02:08,860
It's the team is cracked It's gonna be it's gonna be a great run

1276
02:02:08,860 --> 02:02:14,460
So I was gonna wait till they some humans can come and help me finish it because I bet I think I think it's a record breaking run

1277
02:02:15,420 --> 02:02:19,980
nice I really like researching pc parts and building pcs

1278
02:02:19,980 --> 02:02:26,380
So I take every opportunity to build a pc for a family member Linus. Do you still enjoy building pcs for yourself?

1279
02:02:27,820 --> 02:02:31,100
I enjoy it as long as I'm doing something different

1280
02:02:31,580 --> 02:02:34,140
I don't really like doing the same thing over and over again

1281
02:02:34,940 --> 02:02:36,940
um nice

1282
02:02:38,140 --> 02:02:43,500
So probably I think I probably had the most fun building a pc then I've had in

1283
02:02:45,260 --> 02:02:47,660
Definitely weeks probably months

1284
02:02:48,380 --> 02:02:53,660
Working on the machine that's on the other side of that wall over there. I'm so excited for that video. Oh, dude

1285
02:02:55,580 --> 02:03:02,300
Yeah, it's very different I don't know what was anything that we've done in a while. I don't know if it's practical

1286
02:03:02,620 --> 02:03:09,740
But it's so cool. It's a Kickstarter project that took eight years to finally be delivered and it's so sick

1287
02:03:09,820 --> 02:03:19,340
We got one. It looks absolutely Nothing like what they promised in their original Kickstarter. It is so much better and I'm I'm so excited

1288
02:03:19,740 --> 02:03:23,660
I'm so excited and and yeah, I had a blast alex and I built it together

1289
02:03:24,060 --> 02:03:29,500
And it was so much fun. And so yeah, I love I still love building pcs, but I don't really

1290
02:03:30,780 --> 02:03:35,740
I don't really love just like You know upgrading my motherboard

1291
02:03:36,780 --> 02:03:42,220
Like I kind of get locked into like trouble troubleshooting. I would say I still maybe enjoy more than just like building a pc

1292
02:03:42,540 --> 02:03:44,860
I like I like problem solving free dopamine

1293
02:03:46,540 --> 02:03:50,140
Hello, lld a question for luke. It looks like he's leaving so maybe not

1294
02:03:50,620 --> 02:03:55,020
No, no, no, I'm here. Okay. Uh, where is a place you want to check out that you've never been to?

1295
02:03:55,260 --> 02:03:58,460
We live in flathead valley in montana. Please come check us out

1296
02:04:00,300 --> 02:04:07,420
Flathead valley isn't montana what they call a um, wonderful state that everyone visits

1297
02:04:09,420 --> 02:04:13,420
Is a region no flathead valley looks amazing stunning natural beauty

1298
02:04:14,220 --> 02:04:19,260
Wow pictures look amazing. This place looks amazing. Look at this

1299
02:04:21,020 --> 02:04:25,820
Oh my goodness. I was like, why is there a picture of Dan in my good image results?

1300
02:04:26,140 --> 02:04:30,380
And then I moved it Look at the third picture in the results

1301
02:04:32,620 --> 02:04:34,620
That's incredible man

1302
02:04:35,900 --> 02:04:40,860
Steve j3d says montana is our canada. Yeah, okay that checks out

1303
02:04:41,740 --> 02:04:45,180
That's gorgeous. I would like it there. That's gorgeous

1304
02:04:45,980 --> 02:04:49,660
I don't actually uh, I don't have any north american travel

1305
02:04:50,380 --> 02:04:53,260
Um booked over the next little bit here

1306
02:04:55,980 --> 02:04:59,500
So we'll see how we'll see we'll see but it looks beautiful

1307
02:05:00,220 --> 02:05:04,220
Looks really beautiful. I've never been to a bamf. I'd really like to go to bamf. Um

1308
02:05:05,660 --> 02:05:10,540
That'd be pretty sweet. There's a bunch of aging countries that have been to that would be awesome

1309
02:05:11,420 --> 02:05:19,900
Um I was In iceland for like a very extended layover. I would like to actually go there for real

1310
02:05:20,700 --> 02:05:24,700
um I also want to go to like some

1311
02:05:26,380 --> 02:05:31,660
Less common destination countries though like I'd like to go to greenland. I'd like to go to

1312
02:05:32,380 --> 02:05:35,100
Some likes. Yeah, you mean america common areas

1313
02:05:35,980 --> 02:05:43,900
Oh If it becomes that maybe not os is on my list, uh, I really really sick never been there need to go to os

1314
02:05:45,020 --> 02:05:49,340
Yeah, I want to go scuba diving in australia. That's that's the next thing I actually want to do

1315
02:05:51,020 --> 02:05:55,260
That's a sad thing to hear Yeah, I'm just saying though

1316
02:05:55,980 --> 02:06:01,580
Last one awesome. Yeah Last one I got for you. People call it os don't they? Yeah, don't they?

1317
02:06:01,740 --> 02:06:06,140
They do some people in the comments were confused. Oh, yeah, you're you're not wrong. I mean australia

1318
02:06:06,860 --> 02:06:14,220
Yeah, yeah, yes Last one. Hey, lld line. If you've noted you're a fan of final fantasy tactics

1319
02:06:14,460 --> 02:06:21,900
Have you tried any of the mods or total conversions for the game? I'd recommend final fantasy tactics 1.3. Thanks for all the cool vids

1320
02:06:23,660 --> 02:06:28,140
Did I try one? No, I try to I try to final fantasy six mod that I really enjoyed

1321
02:06:28,620 --> 02:06:33,900
That I actually think you might have enjoyed better than the pixel remaster. I I'm honestly I'm kind of over the pixel remaster. Um

1322
02:06:34,860 --> 02:06:42,540
No, but I burned on it. I played it a little bit more too But like I was really into it when I first got into the game and it's it feels like it tapers off pretty hard

1323
02:06:42,620 --> 02:06:44,780
Would you like me to explain why?

1324
02:06:45,820 --> 02:06:50,940
Yes, yeah, the game was supposed to end on the floating continent

1325
02:06:53,580 --> 02:06:59,820
And then they like Realized that they had more room on the cart. This is what I've heard. This is what I've heard

1326
02:07:00,460 --> 02:07:05,020
They like realized that they had more room on the cart and that they

1327
02:07:06,060 --> 02:07:09,580
Like had more time in budget and they like

1328
02:07:09,580 --> 02:07:18,220
Made another like half of the game That honestly makes a lot of sense because it feels like there's a pretty notable quality shift right around that time

1329
02:07:19,020 --> 02:07:22,140
Because I was I was like genuinely like really into it for a while

1330
02:07:22,700 --> 02:07:27,980
Um, and then it's it's just it feels like it's kind of over and I'm at that point

1331
02:07:27,980 --> 02:07:32,300
So at this point, it's a little bit of a slog. I'll finish it, but it's a it's a little bit of a slog

1332
02:07:32,620 --> 02:07:37,420
But I the yeah the first let's call it first half because I didn't know how far in I was in the world of balance

1333
02:07:38,220 --> 02:07:40,620
Let's call it the first half the world of balance is what it's called

1334
02:07:41,500 --> 02:07:47,100
Was fantastic. It is super good super super good like a worth just playing that even

1335
02:07:47,660 --> 02:07:52,620
Even if you're not going to play the whole thing. Yeah, you could just pretend the game ends there and honestly you get you get most of it

1336
02:07:53,340 --> 02:07:59,580
Yeah Yeah, I should probably try a total conversion for final fantasy tactics or like a cool mod

1337
02:08:00,060 --> 02:08:03,980
Uh, man, I feel like I I feel like I did try a mod at some point

1338
02:08:05,580 --> 02:08:10,060
Like this it rings such a bell for me

1339
02:08:12,380 --> 02:08:16,620
Thank you for that Ha

1340
02:08:22,060 --> 02:08:26,300
I missed one at the front so now I'm like jumping at it for me at this point though

1341
02:08:26,780 --> 02:08:34,620
I think a big part of what I love about. Oh, no, I did. I tried war of the lions 1.3. That's like a different mod or something

1342
02:08:35,420 --> 02:08:40,220
Uh, or wait, no original project changes and content unique features. Okay. No, I don't know

1343
02:08:40,300 --> 02:08:43,580
I don't know I feel like I tried to try something at some point, but maybe I didn't get into it

1344
02:08:43,580 --> 02:08:52,140
But yeah, I I'd like to try something but For me going back to Final Fantasy Tactics a big part of it and honestly just the familiarity at this point like I if I was gonna

1345
02:08:53,100 --> 02:08:56,620
Dive into a new game. There's so many other games that

1346
02:08:57,340 --> 02:09:02,620
I feel like I should play first like what's that other uh, what's that tactics series that got

1347
02:09:03,420 --> 02:09:07,100
So many games and it's supposed to be so good. Um

1348
02:09:08,220 --> 02:09:17,340
Oh, no, it's for pc Uh games like games like this. Oh, no, this is terrible. I feel so bad. I think it's a western game

1349
02:09:18,060 --> 02:09:23,260
Someone help me. No, not fire emblem XCOM. That's the one. Yeah, like I've never played an XCOM game

1350
02:09:24,300 --> 02:09:29,900
Like how can I say I was sick? How can I say I'm a fan of the genre if I've never played an XCOM game?

1351
02:09:29,980 --> 02:09:33,660
Like that's ridiculous. So if I'm gonna jump into a new game, I should probably like

1352
02:09:34,220 --> 02:09:41,100
Play something I've never played before rather than a mod Yeah, people like it's different, but it's good. Yeah, exactly exactly

1353
02:09:44,620 --> 02:09:48,220
XCOM is fun. I was 99% is a miss is real with that series

1354
02:09:48,220 --> 02:09:54,140
I mean, yeah, you're gonna get that with any kind of tactics game and it it's always at the worst possible moment

1355
02:09:54,220 --> 02:10:00,220
That's why Dude anytime an ability is like it hits super hard, but low percentage. I'm like

1356
02:10:00,700 --> 02:10:08,380
F*** it. You're on the bench. You are seeing zero combat. I literally will not take anything that is not a guaranteed hit

1357
02:10:08,860 --> 02:10:11,900
Like I think my first couple playthroughs of Final Fantasy Tactics

1358
02:10:12,220 --> 02:10:18,700
I didn't even figure out that the archer like has evolutions because I literally just never used them because they missed so much

1359
02:10:18,700 --> 02:10:20,780
It was like forget it. You're done. You're out

1360
02:10:22,140 --> 02:10:26,780
Enemy unknown. I loved enemy unknown. I played it on I think it's called iron man where there's like permadeath

1361
02:10:26,780 --> 02:10:33,420
And you you only have one save like you can't go back ever and I I got to the very end of the game

1362
02:10:34,060 --> 02:10:37,660
and if I remember correctly it's like

1363
02:10:37,660 --> 02:10:42,220
I had beat the actually challenging part. I just needed to go into like one more room and the game was just gonna end

1364
02:10:42,860 --> 02:10:45,740
Um, but it glitched and I couldn't get through the wall

1365
02:10:46,060 --> 02:10:49,980
So I had like beat the game, but I couldn't see the ending so I had beat the game

1366
02:10:49,980 --> 02:10:51,980
But had to like youtube the ending

1367
02:10:53,100 --> 02:10:55,100
It was so disappointing

1368
02:10:57,260 --> 02:11:01,180
I youtube the ending of phantasy and I still feel icky about it, but

1369
02:11:02,220 --> 02:11:07,020
The final boss was just so tedious and such a slog like I made it through the first stage of it

1370
02:11:07,820 --> 02:11:10,700
And then I googled it and apparently there's two

1371
02:11:11,420 --> 02:11:15,340
more Like evolutions of the final boss and I'm just like forget this

1372
02:11:16,060 --> 02:11:21,500
Forget this. I'm done. That's good enough speaking of forget this. Do you need to go? I do so I'll see you again next week

1373
02:11:21,740 --> 02:11:26,060
Same bad time same bad channel Bye

1374
02:11:27,020 --> 02:11:29,020
Okay, I'm leaving

1375
02:11:31,900 --> 02:11:33,900
Bye

1376
02:11:38,380 --> 02:11:45,760
That Linus is leaving. Okay. Yeah, I'm but I'm good. I'm I'm good. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Goodbye

1377
02:11:52,780 --> 02:11:55,260
I'm alone I'm alone

1378
02:11:56,780 --> 02:11:58,780
I'm alone